1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:08,400 i'll call me to order uh everybody have a chance take a look at the minutes 2 00:00:06,319 --> 00:00:11,599 second motion second to approve the minutes all those in favor 3 00:00:11,759 --> 00:00:21,199 opposed motions approved so just for the record we are going to 4 00:00:18,240 --> 00:00:24,800 postpone the public hearing on the conditional use permit for the 5 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:28,080 garage hey excuse me there was only one uh 6 00:00:27,599 --> 00:00:32,480 couple that was on here that's not here uh if i 7 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:36,320 mean i can run down to their house knock on their door and and have them log back 8 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:39,360 on it seems kind of a shame to have to 9 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:48,079 postpone it since everybody here they live you know on the block 10 00:00:45,680 --> 00:00:52,000 while you discuss something else do you need this done or do you need this 11 00:00:49,680 --> 00:00:55,440 resolved right away can you wait no wait can we get it clean 12 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:58,000 45 minutes i don't know why why not do it is what i'm saying since everybody's 13 00:00:56,960 --> 00:01:01,520 ready to go perhaps they won't be able to log back 14 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:04,159 on next time um well they're they're coming on now 15 00:01:02,640 --> 00:01:08,320 actually there they are yeah it looks like it's coming back on now 16 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:13,840 because but it was just uh the one couple that was here before that's not 17 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:13,840 here now 18 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:20,400 it just seems a shame to postpone i guess if you guys feel strongly about 19 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:24,240 postponing we can but you know at the same time i mean 20 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:29,280 we're way overdue on the beginning of the start of this meeting 21 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,280 so and i don't know definitely 22 00:01:29,360 --> 00:01:36,079 pardon me definitely we are 23 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:42,129 [Music] 24 00:01:50,079 --> 00:01:55,520 you guys can decide however you want to handle it but everybody's back now 25 00:01:54,000 --> 00:02:00,079 karen and david were you here for the public hearing or were were you 26 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:03,920 here for the signage on the restaurant no 27 00:02:00,399 --> 00:02:06,640 the public hearing okay very good all right well in that case we'll go 28 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:11,039 we'll move forward with the public hearing 29 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:15,280 um public hearing on conditional use permit application for garage height to 30 00:02:12,959 --> 00:02:19,440 exceed 20 feet at 809 3rd street robert gwen hanson this is your 31 00:02:17,599 --> 00:02:25,520 opportunity to talk on on this issue please 32 00:02:22,480 --> 00:02:29,840 be advised that if you wanted to talk just hop right on in 33 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:33,360 and please unmute is there anyone here that would like to talk on this issue 34 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:40,640 i'd i'd like to say that i'm all for it i i live right behind bob and i think 35 00:02:39,599 --> 00:02:44,080 it'd be an improvement to the neighborhood so 36 00:02:41,920 --> 00:02:48,480 i'm a hundred percent for it i can't tell who's speaking could you 37 00:02:45,280 --> 00:02:52,080 please identify kendall mike jindal an address please 808 second 38 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,879 street all right okay 39 00:02:55,599 --> 00:03:02,239 go ahead oh i was just saying i'm 100 for it it'd be a great improvement 40 00:03:02,840 --> 00:03:05,840 okay 41 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:09,120 uh any other comments 42 00:03:10,239 --> 00:03:18,159 any other comments yeah uh this is karen nesset 43 00:03:14,840 --> 00:03:24,640 727 third street i i just want to say i've had a conversation with bob and i'm 44 00:03:21,840 --> 00:03:31,200 i'm very pleased that he is sensitive to the architecture and the 45 00:03:26,640 --> 00:03:35,280 historical look of his house i i did notice that the recommended 46 00:03:33,599 --> 00:03:38,959 conditions include no accessory dwelling units so that would 47 00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:47,840 be my only concern that uh it never turned into a rental unit 48 00:03:48,159 --> 00:03:54,799 that is one of the conditions okay all right 49 00:03:51,519 --> 00:04:01,040 uh any other comments rich this is emily i did receive 50 00:03:58,319 --> 00:04:04,480 one phone call from jim euleberg before the neighborhood meeting 51 00:04:02,159 --> 00:04:09,519 he wanted me to note in the public hearing he lives at 819 52 00:04:06,480 --> 00:04:14,959 3rd street that he has no problems or concerns about the proposed garage 53 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:17,680 okay great and the other neighbors thank you the other neighbor is mystical bar 54 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:23,759 check yeah if you know who that gentleman is 55 00:04:20,959 --> 00:04:27,440 that's the neighbor to the north and and what he's 56 00:04:24,400 --> 00:04:31,840 not dominating okay just okay all right any other comments 57 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:37,360 any other comments any other comments 58 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:42,880 all right motion second public hearing all those in favor 59 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:48,800 approved public hearing is closed discussion and possible action on a 60 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:52,800 conditional use permit application for garage height to exceed 20 feet at 809 61 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:58,160 3rd street robert wendy anderson urban hanson 62 00:04:55,120 --> 00:05:02,080 so the hansons have applied for a cup to construct a one and a half story 63 00:04:59,600 --> 00:05:06,000 detached garage at their residence um the proposed height would be 23 feet 64 00:05:04,479 --> 00:05:10,080 nine and a half inches thereby exceeding the codes 20 foot 65 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:14,160 height limit i don't know if bob will if you care to 66 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:17,919 speak on behalf of your narrative at all if you'd like me to summarize it for you 67 00:05:20,800 --> 00:05:25,360 i think the summary speaks very well i read through what you'd written and so 68 00:05:23,919 --> 00:05:29,919 yeah if you want to cover it that way i can i can jump in with any questions 69 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:33,199 okay yeah so both homeowners uh they work out of their home 70 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:36,639 and it's not currently well suited for two home office spaces 71 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:39,759 so their existing garage which is functional isn't quite aging well and 72 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,080 doesn't fit the character of the neighborhood and their english tutor 73 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:45,680 house so with this redesign they're hoping to 74 00:05:44,479 --> 00:05:49,759 have the garage match all the historical aspects about their 75 00:05:47,199 --> 00:05:53,120 house and the neighborhood itself they have considered other options to 76 00:05:51,520 --> 00:05:56,479 reduce the height however the changes don't quite 77 00:05:54,080 --> 00:06:03,360 work well with the tudor style architecture 78 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:03,360 so here we are with the proposed design 79 00:06:03,919 --> 00:06:10,720 okay any questions so in just looking at this graphic so i 80 00:06:10,000 --> 00:06:14,400 mean is the is the house changing at all or is it 81 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:18,560 just strictly the tear down the old garage build the new 82 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:22,720 one just the garage i'm sure no that's right take on the old 83 00:06:21,039 --> 00:06:26,479 house and build a new one and but there is a go ahead there's a small 84 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:30,720 addition on the back of our home like a mud room so yes there is a small 85 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,919 addition on the back of the house as well 86 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:37,120 okay but i mean the structure of the house is all the same and 87 00:06:35,440 --> 00:06:42,160 and then add the mud room and then take down the garage build this other 88 00:06:39,280 --> 00:06:45,840 piece that will not be another residence for a rent or anything like that 89 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:52,720 right yeah definitely we don't want it to be 90 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,720 okay okay any other questions 91 00:06:53,840 --> 00:07:00,400 i will make a motion to approve the set of requests 92 00:06:57,199 --> 00:07:06,160 uh noting all the city conditions uh one through five be adhered to by the uh 93 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:10,400 landowner and with that i propose for approval 94 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:15,360 second you got a motion a second to approve 95 00:07:11,120 --> 00:07:21,360 discussion all those in favor all right opposed 96 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:21,360 motions approved 97 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:28,880 discussion possible action on a downtown design review certificate for 517 98 00:07:26,319 --> 00:07:34,240 seconds three sign art usa all right so 517 on main is the business 99 00:07:32,400 --> 00:07:37,919 that's looking to set up some signs mainly just a projecting sign along 100 00:07:36,400 --> 00:07:43,039 second street and then a vinyl door decal on the front door and 101 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,879 a wall sign kind of on the back west of the building um the only sign in 102 00:07:46,479 --> 00:07:51,360 this group is really that required permit was 103 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:55,199 the projecting sign which is expected to be 104 00:07:51,879 --> 00:07:59,599 12.25 square feet in area it'll extend four feet out of the wall thereby 105 00:07:57,360 --> 00:08:04,080 meeting all of our code requirements um it will be internally lit and 106 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,440 the rest of the signs like i said they're below six square feet so they 107 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:10,560 don't require a signed permit uh with that being said staff is 108 00:08:08,879 --> 00:08:16,639 recommending approval of this downtown design review certificate 109 00:08:13,840 --> 00:08:19,280 i have a question could i just ask a question though 110 00:08:17,199 --> 00:08:23,759 so i noticed on the one drawing that it said existing bracket do not use 111 00:08:22,479 --> 00:08:26,240 yeah they're not going to use that one they're going to take that one out and 112 00:08:25,599 --> 00:08:29,599 move the projecting sign a little lower but 113 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:33,680 there'll still be 10 feet of um height difference between the 114 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:37,599 sidewalk take the old one out so it doesn't look 115 00:08:34,560 --> 00:08:37,599 like yeah right 116 00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:45,599 okay thank you all seconds for you google all right we got a motion a 117 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:45,599 second to approve discussion 118 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:58,560 all those in favor opposed emotions approved uh 119 00:08:56,320 --> 00:09:02,880 i guess i want to thank everybody for struggling through this with us tonight 120 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:07,279 and uh i don't have anything for any communications or anything for future 121 00:09:04,480 --> 00:09:12,000 agendas anybody any updates on the comprehensive plan 122 00:09:09,680 --> 00:09:15,360 for the next meeting or um right now we're currently still 123 00:09:13,680 --> 00:09:18,959 working on setting up some lists of focus groups 124 00:09:16,560 --> 00:09:22,240 to meet with the business owners in downtown and up on the hill so we can 125 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:26,160 get their perspective on things then we'll work on that from there 126 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:29,839 develop some updated draft chapters that we can bring 127 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:40,720 forward to you guys okay very good all right 128 00:09:37,680 --> 00:09:44,080 all right opposed motion is approved we stand adjourned 129 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,080 thank you every