[0:00] i'll call me to order uh everybody have
a chance take a look at the minutes
[0:06] second motion second to approve the
minutes all those in favor
[0:11] opposed motions approved
so just for the record we are going to
[0:18] postpone the public hearing
on the conditional use permit for the
[0:23] garage
hey excuse me there was only one uh
[0:27] couple
that was on here that's not here uh if i
[0:30] mean i can run down to their house knock
on their door and and have them log back
[0:34] on
it seems kind of a shame to have to
[0:37] postpone it since everybody
here they live you know on the block
[0:45] while you discuss something else do you
need this done or do you need this
[0:49] resolved right away can you wait no wait
can we get it clean
[0:53] 45 minutes i don't know why why not do
it is what i'm saying since everybody's
[0:56] ready to go
perhaps they won't be able to log back
[0:59] on next time um
well they're they're coming on now
[1:02] actually there they are yeah it looks
like it's coming back on now
[1:06] because but it was just uh the one
couple that was here before that's not
[1:10] here now
[1:15] it just seems a shame to postpone i
guess if you guys feel strongly about
[1:18] postponing we can
but you know at the same time i mean
[1:22] we're way overdue on the
beginning of the start of this meeting
[1:25] so and i don't know definitely
[1:29] pardon me definitely we are
[1:39] [Music]
[1:50] you guys can decide however you want to
handle it but everybody's back now
[1:54] karen and david were you here for the
public hearing or were were you
[1:57] here for the signage on the restaurant
no
[2:00] the public hearing okay very good
all right well in that case we'll go
[2:05] we'll move forward with the public
hearing
[2:07] um public hearing on conditional use
permit application for garage height to
[2:12] exceed 20 feet at 809 3rd street
robert gwen hanson this is your
[2:17] opportunity to talk on
on this issue please
[2:22] be advised that if you wanted to talk
just hop right on in
[2:26] and please unmute is there anyone here
that would like to talk on this issue
[2:35] i'd i'd like to say that i'm all for it
i i live right behind bob and i think
[2:39] it'd be an improvement to the
neighborhood so
[2:41] i'm a hundred percent for it i can't
tell who's speaking could you
[2:45] please identify kendall
mike jindal an address please 808 second
[2:51] street
all right okay
[2:55] go ahead oh i was just saying i'm 100
for it it'd be a great improvement
[3:02] okay
[3:06] uh any other comments
[3:10] any other comments yeah uh this is karen
nesset
[3:14] 727 third street i i just want to say
i've had a conversation with bob and i'm
[3:21] i'm very pleased that he is sensitive to
the architecture and the
[3:26] historical look of his house
i i did notice that the recommended
[3:33] conditions include no
accessory dwelling units so that would
[3:37] be my only concern that
uh it never turned into a rental unit
[3:48] that is one of the conditions okay all
right
[3:51] uh any other comments rich
this is emily i did receive
[3:58] one phone call from jim euleberg before
the neighborhood meeting
[4:02] he wanted me to note in the public
hearing he lives at 819
[4:06] 3rd street that he has no problems or
concerns about the proposed garage
[4:12] okay great and the other neighbors thank
you the other neighbor is mystical bar
[4:17] check
yeah if you know who that gentleman is
[4:20] that's the neighbor to the north and and
what he's
[4:24] not dominating okay just
okay all right any other comments
[4:32] any other comments any other comments
[4:37] all right motion second public hearing
all those in favor
[4:43] approved public hearing is closed
discussion and possible action on a
[4:47] conditional use permit application for
garage height to exceed 20 feet at 809
[4:50] 3rd street robert wendy anderson urban
hanson
[4:55] so the hansons have applied for a cup to
construct a one and a half story
[4:59] detached garage at their residence
um the proposed height would be 23 feet
[5:04] nine and a half inches
thereby exceeding the codes 20 foot
[5:08] height limit
i don't know if bob will if you care to
[5:12] speak on behalf of your narrative at all
if you'd like me to summarize it for you
[5:20] i think the summary speaks very well i
read through what you'd written and so
[5:23] yeah if you want to cover it that way i
can i can jump in with any questions
[5:27] okay yeah so both homeowners uh they
work out of their home
[5:30] and it's not currently well suited for
two home office spaces
[5:35] so their existing garage which is
functional isn't quite aging well and
[5:38] doesn't fit the character of the
neighborhood and their english tutor
[5:41] house
so with this redesign they're hoping to
[5:44] have the garage match
all the historical aspects about their
[5:47] house and the neighborhood itself
they have considered other options to
[5:51] reduce the height however the changes
don't quite
[5:54] work well with the tudor style
architecture
[5:57] so here we are with the proposed design
[6:03] okay any questions
so in just looking at this graphic so i
[6:10] mean is the
is the house changing at all or is it
[6:12] just strictly the
tear down the old garage build the new
[6:16] one just the garage i'm
sure no that's right take on the old
[6:21] house and build a new one and but
there is a go ahead there's a small
[6:24] addition on the back of our home
like a mud room so yes there is a small
[6:29] addition on the back of the house as
well
[6:31] okay but i mean the structure of the
house is all the same and
[6:35] and then add the mud room and then take
down the garage build this other
[6:39] piece that will not be another residence
for a rent or anything like that
[6:44] right yeah definitely we don't want it
to be
[6:47] okay okay any other questions
[6:53] i will make a motion to approve the set
of requests
[6:57] uh noting all the city conditions uh
one through five be adhered to by the uh
[7:03] landowner and with that i propose for
approval
[7:08] second you got a motion a second to
approve
[7:11] discussion all those in favor
all right opposed
[7:18] motions approved
[7:22] discussion possible action on a downtown
design review certificate for 517
[7:26] seconds three sign art usa
all right so 517 on main is the business
[7:32] that's looking to set up some signs
mainly just a projecting sign along
[7:36] second street and then
a vinyl door decal on the front door and
[7:41] a wall sign kind of on the back
west of the building um the only sign in
[7:46] this
group is really that required permit was
[7:49] the projecting sign which is expected to
be
[7:51] 12.25 square feet in area it'll
extend four feet out of the wall thereby
[7:57] meeting all of our code requirements
um it will be internally lit and
[8:02] the rest of the signs like i said
they're below six square feet so they
[8:05] don't require a signed permit
uh with that being said staff is
[8:08] recommending approval of this downtown
design review certificate
[8:13] i have a question could i just ask a
question though
[8:17] so i noticed on the one drawing that it
said existing bracket do not use
[8:22] yeah they're not going to use that one
they're going to take that one out and
[8:25] move the
projecting sign a little lower but
[8:27] there'll still be 10 feet of
um height difference between the
[8:31] sidewalk take the old one out so it
doesn't look
[8:34] like yeah right
[8:38] okay thank you all seconds for you
google all right we got a motion a
[8:42] second to approve discussion
[8:47] all those in favor opposed
emotions approved uh
[8:56] i guess i want to thank everybody for
struggling through this with us tonight
[9:00] and uh i don't have anything for any
communications or anything for future
[9:04] agendas anybody
any updates on the comprehensive plan
[9:09] for the next meeting or
um right now we're currently still
[9:13] working on setting up some lists of
focus groups
[9:16] to meet with the business owners in
downtown and up on the hill so we can
[9:20] get their perspective on things
then we'll work on that from there
[9:24] develop some
updated draft chapters that we can bring
[9:28] forward to you guys
okay very good all right
[9:37] all right opposed motion is approved we
stand adjourned
[9:41] thank you every