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camera's live

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good morning fellow directors first of

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all i'd just like to acknowledge

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our gathering virtually throughout the

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traditional territories

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of the coast salish people and welcome

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you to today's agenda

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we apologize for the technical glitch in

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getting going

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um as chair stone had said

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it may be a 2020 hangover that has been

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prolonged

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with your indulgence before we approve

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the agenda i've had a request

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from director nicholson

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to delay r1 until her return she had

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some input on a couple of those so if

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you're okay with that

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delaying till her return i see nodding

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of heads

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so miss lego thank you mr chair the

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first item of business is the approval

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of the agenda

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so moved seconded

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any discussion all those in favor

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opposed if any that motion carries thank

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you very much

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this will go

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and for public input period i have not

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received any submissions for this

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meeting

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there's no delegations correspondence or

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information so it would be

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on to reports and

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as we are delayed delaying r1 for

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director nicholson we can move on to r2

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which is a report from the finance

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division

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2021 electoral area supplemental

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requests referred from december 2nd

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the recommendation is that it be

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recommended to the board that the

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supplemental requests for function 238

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community parks area h

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fern gully trail bridge be approved and

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two that the supplemental request for

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function 238 community parks area h

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hiking and equestrian bridge west trail

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be approved

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okay anyone from staff going to start

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with this or

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are we going right to the directors

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i think i saw director martin your hand

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up

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yes thank you chair um just would like

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to defer

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this to the special corporate meeting on

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january 25 the parks

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advisory commission for area 8 is just

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getting up and running next week

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so i'd like to have this in front of

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them before we make a decision

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move to refer and seconded any further

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discussion on the referral

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all those in favor opposed if any

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so that will be referred to january 25th

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mr

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martin next miss lego

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thank you mr chair our three report from

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facilities and transit division

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regarding the 2021 draft budget for

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function 106 commuter transit

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this was referred from the december 9

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special corporate services meeting and

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the recommendation is that it be

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recommended to the board that the 2021

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draft budget as amended for function 106

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commuter transit be approved

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miss our director stone moving that

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i was moving yep and do i have a

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seconder

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second it um

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director marsh

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mr wacom would you like to speak to this

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i can give an update mr chair uh as it

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is a an update from the december meeting

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um this one is uh much more positive in

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that we now have the

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bc restart contribution funding for both

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uh function 106 and the next one is 107.

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um just for the committee's

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understanding the commuter function 106

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bc restart contribution is 606

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000 over two years which is 303 per year

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that amount is retro to april 1 of 2020

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uh shared with the capital regional

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district for the directors who are

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unaware that this service is we have a

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partner with the capital regional

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district

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um as the report mentions the bc restart

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funding comes with three conditions

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that the existing service levels be

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maintained that the current fares also

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be maintained and any

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fair increases that are considered are

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to be limited to an average of 2.3

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percent

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for the next four years and the third

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condition is that the annual operating

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agreement with bc transit must be

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approved and signed by january 31 of

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2021.

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there's a separate report going to the

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3pm community services meeting later

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this afternoon to deal with that

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so with the first two conditions um the

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options that we provided back on

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december the 9th to the report they're

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really not valid

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uh we can't reduce the service and the

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fare increases of of 2.3

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is only 5 cents on a 225 cash fare

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but the good news is for at least 2021

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we no longer need to consider reducing

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services to get the tax requisition

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level to be zero from the 2020 amount

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um so there's three amendments that are

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already made to the draft

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2021 function 106 budget that have been

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incorporated into the two

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documents or the attachments which is

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the um

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the euro the report by cost center as

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well as the five year plan

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and the three amendments are the

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inclusion of the cvrd share of the bc

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restart funding

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uh contribution of 167 109

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and the deferral of the approved new

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transit assistant position to september

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of 2021

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which three hundred saves 17 three

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dollars

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and thirdly the increase to the bc

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transit contract service expense by

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eight thousand four hundred and fifty

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those three items uh end up netting a

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net

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savings of the 175 thousand

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dollars which would mean there's no tax

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increase for the 2021 year

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that's really the quick summary of what

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the staff report is and i'm open to any

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questions that directors may have

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okay do i see any hands directors

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director marsh

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yeah i don't actually have a question

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but it is a big relief

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um for 2021 because i think it would

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have been

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hopefully we would have still gone ahead

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but it would have been tough i know for

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some people

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so thank you mr wacom and thank you to

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was it the province or the feds who gave

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the restart money

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it's both it was it was a partnership

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with the feds and the province

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fantastic thank you

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any further directors ready for the

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question

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all those in favor opposed if any

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that motion carries thank you miss lego

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thank you mr chair item r4's report from

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facilities and transit division on the

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2021 draft budget for function 107

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conventional and custom transit services

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and the proposed recommendation is that

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it be recommended to the board that the

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2021 draft budget is amended for

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function 107 conventional and

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custom transit services be approved

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do i have a mover for that one moved and

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seconded

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mr wacom would you like to approach this

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one as well

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thank you mr chair sure it's a very

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similar situation

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when we presented the preliminary uh

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budget back in december it was

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very bleak with uh sitting at a large

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tax increase of about 261 thousand

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dollars

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but that was prior to any knowledge of

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what the bc

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restart funding contribution would be we

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now know what that amount is

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and that amount for function 107 is very

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similar as 106. it's 604 000

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over two years again retro back to april

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one of 2020

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so the 2021 the 2020 year should also

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end up being much better than first

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expected but with regard to 2021 budget

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which is we're talking about

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function 107 had eight amendments made

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to the preliminary budget and again

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those have already been incorporated

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so that they were done a couple about a

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week ago or two weeks ago so the board

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could get an understanding

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that transit we knew was going to be

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down to zero and that you would get a

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better update when you were looking at

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other budgets and making decisions

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so the eight amendments there's really

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in two parts to this the first four

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items that are noted in the report

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these just reflect current uh trends on

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revenues and so

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and things like the deferring of the

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custom sunday service which was already

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approved

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so those four items reduce the tax by

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forty thousand five hundred dollars

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the balance which are new items the new

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amendments are

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again the inclusion of the cvrd share of

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the bc restart

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funding amount of 302 000

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the deferral of the approved new transit

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assistant position to september which

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saves 36

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000 because this position is cost shared

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between the two

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transit functions and thirdly to

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increase the bc

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transit contract services by sixty

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thousand dollars

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and the last item is to uh include

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uh fifty eight thousand dollars or

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specifically fifty seven thousand five

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hundred and eighty six dollars to

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transfer to the operating reserve

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and the reason being to bring the

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balance closer to the minimum policy

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requirement we're just under that

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and so this would help us bring it very

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close the total of the

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of the first four items as well as the

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four new items that have all been

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incorporated already in the attachments

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brings the total net savings down

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exactly what we needed 260 914

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therefore in summary having no tax

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increase from 2020. again open to any

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questions that directors may have

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looking at my virtual panel do i see any

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hands

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questions comments first of all i'd like

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to thank you mr wacom for

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for the hard work and getting where we

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are today uh

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did not look very promising a couple of

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weeks ago but uh

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kudos and implementing those changes

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thank you

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so i will call the question all those in

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favor

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opposed if any that motion carries

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miss lego please thank you mr chair onto

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r5

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report from the finance division on 2021

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budget regional supplemental requests

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and the recommendation is that it be

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recommended to the board that the

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supplemental requests for the following

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functions be approved

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function 100 general government regional

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recreation referendum

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analysis two economic development

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regional connectivity strategy

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a three two function 280 regional parks

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couch and valley trail replacement to

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major culverts

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four function 280 regional parks

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regional active transportation plan

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five function 280 regional parks vehicle

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replacement

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six function 285 regional parkland

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acquisition master plan review

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7520 solid waste management complex

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transfer station scale replacement

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and eight function 520 solid waste

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management complex peerless road skid

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steer replacement

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thank you very much uh your pleasure on

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these would you like to deal with these

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one at a time

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um director oh actually i had

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director wilson first and then director

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kim

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uh thank you mr chair um i would like to

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deal with

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uh number six um on its own please i i i

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have some uh comments on that one

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okay thank you very much director kuhn

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and director sebring i would move

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uh items one through eight with the

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exception of number six just to get

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those

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off the table and i have a seconder

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any further comments on that

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director smith

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yes would it be possible to pull um

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the number uh

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just a minute the active regional active

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transportation plan

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out of there which is i believe number

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four

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absolutely if you wish we can do that as

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well

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and i think i saw director salmon as

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well

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yeah should we pull number one too

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please

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so i have one four and six

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for a discussion any further

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so director sebring that motion would

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include those except for six four and

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one

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yeah i consider that a friendly

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amendment i didn't realize other people

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wanted to pull

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i jumped the gun so yeah uh all the

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items except one four and six

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moved in second seconder's okay with

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that

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i'll call the question all those in

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favor

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opposed if any sounds good

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now we'll move to number one for

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discussion

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director salmon yeah thank you i just

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want to make sure i understood it so

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some of this is for the um

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referendum and some of it's for the

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usage

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monitoring is that correct

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i see miss aldera nodding okay

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okay anyway further

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and then it's all from reserve

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is that right none from requisition

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yes ms solera so just if i may just so

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you don't have to just look at me

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nodding

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uh absolutely so this is a combination

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of the two

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um initiatives and it will all be coming

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from operating reserve

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under uh the general government function

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which the regional

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recreation initiative has been funded

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from

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thus far

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yeah okay one point okay i have director

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stone and then director kuhn

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oh director stone's fine director kuhn

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please

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yeah i just have a comment um if there

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is a request to draw down money from a

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reserve fund

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could we have the figures of the reserve

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funds attached to that so we know how

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much

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is in the reserves and how much is being

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drawn down from that

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so we don't have to go ourselves and

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check out

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how much is left and and how much is uh

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being used out of that that would be

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helpful

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thank you did i see

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director markman

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thank you chair um i just wanted to make

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sure on the

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appears to be just a typo under problem

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opportunity

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is this intended to say this project

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is the regional recreation referendum

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and just dropped the word and

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or is there something missing

397
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um so it's just that it was tied to the

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regional recreation referendum and two

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were

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tied together so sorry about that i was

401
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that i thanked george martin for noting

402
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the typo

403
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uh earlier the other day the two

404
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projects they just go hand in hand and

405
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it was a combination of

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two separate supplementals into one

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so just follow up so what should it

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actually read then

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that the project is tied to the regional

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recreation referendum

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of doing this facility use analysis okay

412
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thank you

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okay director salmon follow up

414
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yeah thank you so uh on the referendum

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itself

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so so it'll be held in 2022

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with the usual or regular elections

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um and then there'll be some public

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engagement

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to do with that in 2021

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is that am i on the right track with

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that

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are you still there

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that is my understanding i'm i'm looking

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to see if uh mr elzinga

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is online as he is the expert

427
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i'm not seeing his face pop up

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so oh there he is sorry to put you on

429
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the spot mr alzinka

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no thank you miss aldera and through the

431
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chair uh to the question

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uh the intent is that the facility use

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analysis would come in the fall of 2021

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of course we would be communicating to

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the board around that

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because we're certainly aware of covet

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impacts on facility use

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so that's the first step then we would

439
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be moving through public engagement

440
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early in 2022 through to

441
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uh referendum uh preparation for october

442
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of 2022 as the director is outlined

443
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thank you okay so follow-up

444
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generally uh so so it's 70 000

445
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roughly just to add this referendum

446
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question

447
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to the regular

448
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municipal elections

449
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so that includes the public engagement

450
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that would uh lead up to the reference

451
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so the engagement and the referendum

452
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cost would be 70 000

453
00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,039
as you noted right in addition to the

454
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49 000 2021 engagement costs

455
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it looks like

456
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i think you're getting an odd there too

457
00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,880
yes i was just looking to see if mr

458
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alzinga was back online his

459
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screen is a little frozen on my on my

460
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screen and he as i say he is the expert

461
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but i believe that the committee and the

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board received a report previously with

463
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respect to this

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item that discussed the fact that we

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would do

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uh various consultation processes over a

467
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two year period

468
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and this would be the costs and so at

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that meeting

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the direction was given to staff to

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bring forward this supplemental request

472
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so this is just finalizing that

473
00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:12,400
direction yeah okay thank you

474
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i'm just wondering maybe for our future

475
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it's hard sometimes to remember the

476
00:19:17,360 --> 00:19:19,360
original discussion wanted to

477
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there could be a link with from the this

478
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sort of

479
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:25,840
budget summary page to the original

480
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reports or something like that so we can

481
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refresh that might be helpful for the

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future

483
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i don't know if that's a lot of work to

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do or what

485
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thank you for that director salmon i

486
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think i saw director smith

487
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thank you through the chair to staff

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will

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the consultant for use analysis uh

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also include the um

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2011 uh data

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that was collected and then the report

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from

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2017 that was

495
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also data collected will that be brought

496
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into this

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uh analysis thank you

498
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:16,159
thank you for the question is mr alzinga

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still with us

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i don't see him popping up

501
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anyone else like to take this

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perhaps upon his return he he will uh

503
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answer that for you director smith if

504
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that's appropriate

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i think he's logged out and back in so

506
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we may have to ask the question again

507
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yeah so if he does return we'll go back

508
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to your question

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director smith if time permits there he

510
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is

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did you happen to hear the question uh

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mr el-zinka

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i did if you can hear me in my apologies

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to the committee for the connection

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issues so

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uh through to director smith yes the

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intent

518
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is that the two facility use analysis

519
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would be combined

520
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in the recommendation that goes forward

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a referendum in october so we would be

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using the 2011 facility use analysis

523
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as well as or sorry the the most recent

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facility use analysis

525
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as well as the one that's proposed for

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uh for 2021.

527
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follow-up director smith

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is there some reason that you wouldn't

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be using the analysis from

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2011. the

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uh 2011 facility use analysis has some

532
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concerns because two-tiered admission

533
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fees for the couch and aquatic center

534
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were in play

535
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at that time and that could be

536
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potentially impacting upon those numbers

537
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we could certainly bring that forward

538
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again to the board for consideration

539
00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,400
with an axe stating that the two tier

540
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was in place at that time maybe

541
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maybe something to consider

542
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,919
exactly yeah i'll come back oh sorry

543
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the two tier was only for the aquatic

544
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center

545
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thank you i know i can see you aaron

546
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thanks i have director marsh and then

547
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director still

548
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yes thank you very much mr chair thank

549
00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:19,760
you to mr elzinga

550
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um i imagine your department will be

551
00:22:22,320 --> 00:22:23,600
crafting the

552
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wording of the referendum so i'm i'm

553
00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:28,159
hoping that

554
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it wouldn't be complicated by explaining

555
00:22:31,200 --> 00:22:32,640
the two-tier before

556
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and because i think for referendums it's

557
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um most important that it's short and

558
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sweet

559
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clear but short and sweet so what's your

560
00:22:43,440 --> 00:22:46,950
thoughts about that

561
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through the chair to director marsh i

562
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would certainly be leaning on the

563
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expertise of the legislative services

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division

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finance division and others

566
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communications as well

567
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as we move forward not only with the

568
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crafting of the referendum question but

569
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public engagement that leads up to it

570
00:23:04,960 --> 00:23:07,919
okay thank you thank you very much i

571
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have director stone then director

572
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sebring

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i just wanted to remind that this isn't

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the time to be discussing these things

575
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other than the budget impacts once we

576
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get into the actual practicalities of

577
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the usage analysis and stuff

578
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when we're actually discussing the items

579
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and because if we get into this on every

580
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,520
budget item it's going to be an

581
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,789
extremely long meeting

582
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:31,600
thank you for that director stone uh

583
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,600
procedurally we'll try to stick to the

584
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:34,640
budget portion

585
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,520
uh direct receiver and taking into

586
00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,039
account what director stone said i'm

587
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:40,400
going to be very brief

588
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,720
for somebody to say that this only

589
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,159
affects the aquatic center

590
00:23:44,159 --> 00:23:46,240
from our perspective at north carolina

591
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,679
that's the biggest

592
00:23:47,679 --> 00:23:50,320
unit and if we start including those

593
00:23:50,320 --> 00:23:51,600
2011

594
00:23:51,600 --> 00:23:54,559
numbers we have a problem at the market

595
00:23:54,559 --> 00:23:55,360
tonight i'm just

596
00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:57,840
saying that so but this is not the time

597
00:23:57,840 --> 00:23:59,120
or the place we'll have the discussion

598
00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:00,240
later thank you

599
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:03,039
and we will bring that forward in a

600
00:24:03,039 --> 00:24:05,600
future meeting for that discussion

601
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:07,760
i was remiss in not uh welcoming

602
00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:09,600
alternative director justice so i'll do

603
00:24:09,600 --> 00:24:10,400
that now

604
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,799
uh welcome alternate director justice my

605
00:24:12,799 --> 00:24:14,400
apologies

606
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,880
are we finished on number one then

607
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,159
call the question all those in favor

608
00:24:22,159 --> 00:24:25,520
opposed if any that motion carries and i

609
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,120
acknowledge director nicholson has

610
00:24:27,120 --> 00:24:28,159
returned

611
00:24:28,159 --> 00:24:30,080
we will come back to r1 when we're

612
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,559
finished a couple of points here

613
00:24:32,559 --> 00:24:38,710
on r5 we have delayed r1

614
00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:40,640
so i believe number four was pulled as

615
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:43,510
well

616
00:24:43,520 --> 00:24:46,720
and who pulled that one

617
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:53,990
please remind me director smith

618
00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:56,559
i i'm just looking for a little more

619
00:24:56,559 --> 00:24:57,760
detail

620
00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:01,039
from staff on this i

621
00:25:01,039 --> 00:25:04,400
i feel that it it's a good

622
00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:07,679
um look

623
00:25:07,679 --> 00:25:10,320
looking at a regional act of

624
00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,480
transportation was part of our trial

625
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:15,360
our strategic planning and it's good to

626
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,080
see that this is moving forward

627
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,760
i just am wondering if with all our

628
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:25,200
um with a lot of the master plans for

629
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:28,720
parks if some of that information is

630
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:29,279
already

631
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,400
in the master plans for a b

632
00:25:32,400 --> 00:25:35,520
c d and e for

633
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:39,039
that and so i was just wondering how

634
00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:42,159
those are going to mix in with this

635
00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:47,360
in the requirements for this consultant

636
00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:51,430
director stone

637
00:25:51,440 --> 00:25:53,520
i was just getting on the speakers list

638
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,600
i just remind again this is a budget

639
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:57,200
discussion so i have a budget question

640
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:57,679
when my

641
00:25:57,679 --> 00:26:00,799
my time comes thank you okay i'll leave

642
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:05,510
you on the list i'll go to mr parker

643
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:07,360
thank you mr chair through the committee

644
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:09,039
uh certainly with some

645
00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:11,600
within our community parks master plans

646
00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:12,960
and i understand with some of our

647
00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,360
members valley plans as well

648
00:26:15,360 --> 00:26:19,279
there are references and higher level

649
00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:21,200
aspirations with respect to active

650
00:26:21,200 --> 00:26:22,400
transportation

651
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:24,559
the intention of undertaking an act

652
00:26:24,559 --> 00:26:26,480
transmission plan for the region

653
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,400
uh would be to delve into it in greater

654
00:26:28,400 --> 00:26:29,520
detail to

655
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,000
affirm uh opportunities for active

656
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:33,440
transportation

657
00:26:33,440 --> 00:26:35,200
within our road networks

658
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:37,679
interconnectivity and get it to a level

659
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:38,720
where

660
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:41,840
we are ideally at a position that has

661
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:43,440
other levels of government and other

662
00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:45,600
programs come along which could provide

663
00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:46,159
funding

664
00:26:46,159 --> 00:26:49,120
uh that we've got a level of detail and

665
00:26:49,120 --> 00:26:50,240
public support

666
00:26:50,240 --> 00:26:53,120
to be able to go after those those funds

667
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:54,400
and actually integrate

668
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,919
uh the plan into establishing

669
00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:01,360
the network so the master plans do make

670
00:27:01,360 --> 00:27:03,279
note but they were at a very high level

671
00:27:03,279 --> 00:27:04,880
this will be really delving into a

672
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:06,640
better analysis of

673
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,640
functionality within our network of

674
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:10,240
where active transportation

675
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:14,230
could be established

676
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:17,600
okay director stone

677
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,120
i'm just following up on the meeting

678
00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:20,799
that we had had with the province there

679
00:27:20,799 --> 00:27:22,080
was discussion

680
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,640
about some funding for active

681
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:26,559
transportation and i know there's

682
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:27,760
you know some contemplated

683
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:29,679
infrastructure funding but is there not

684
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,600
still some grant funding available for

685
00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:35,909
the actual planning work

686
00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:38,320
mr chair yes through the provincial

687
00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:39,760
active transportation

688
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960
program they do annually allocate out

689
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:44,880
funds both for

690
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,240
projects for construction as well as

691
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,200
sort of feasibility analysis design the

692
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:52,480
current round of funding has been

693
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:53,600
allocated out

694
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:56,880
so as you'll note in the

695
00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,440
the supplemental we see this as being a

696
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:00,960
two-year initiative so we certainly

697
00:28:00,960 --> 00:28:03,919
want to look at the next round ideally

698
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:05,440
coming up for 2021

699
00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,960
to be able to tap into that to help

700
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,480
supplement the

701
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,000
funding that otherwise we put towards

702
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,600
this work so

703
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,760
absolutely any chance we can get

704
00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:15,360
additional funds elsewhere

705
00:28:15,360 --> 00:28:17,440
to offset the cost of doing a

706
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:19,520
transportation plan for active

707
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:21,440
active transportation we definitely want

708
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:22,960
to go after that but at this point in

709
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,520
time

710
00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:25,039
there's no funds currently available

711
00:28:25,039 --> 00:28:29,110
that we're aware of

712
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:32,559
follow up directly stone yeah i uh yeah

713
00:28:32,559 --> 00:28:34,399
i can follow up offline we can always

714
00:28:34,399 --> 00:28:36,880
amend it but i'm i'm reading the

715
00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,799
there's open applications it looks like

716
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,640
on the page i'm looking at right now but

717
00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:43,520
we can follow up after

718
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:44,960
okay thank you very much have director

719
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,950
marsh then director salmon

720
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,279
thank you mr chair i just wanted to

721
00:28:51,279 --> 00:28:53,200
appreciate uh

722
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:57,200
excuse me in the staff report um

723
00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:59,279
under recommendations that they pointed

724
00:28:59,279 --> 00:29:00,720
out that the first

725
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,760
five uh

726
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:06,880
of these eight resolutions were

727
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,919
really important they were ranked as

728
00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:12,320
number one importance and

729
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:13,919
i think it's really helpful when we're

730
00:29:13,919 --> 00:29:16,159
looking at that in a year that

731
00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:20,000
that many people are feeling

732
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,159
should be an austerity budget year i

733
00:29:22,159 --> 00:29:24,320
think it's important to

734
00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,799
to pay attention to that so i really

735
00:29:26,799 --> 00:29:28,320
appreciate that you spelled that out

736
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:31,269
very clearly thank you

737
00:29:31,279 --> 00:29:32,960
thank you director marsh director salmon

738
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,039
you're next

739
00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:37,760
yeah thank you yeah i'm just a little

740
00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:38,559
skeptical

741
00:29:38,559 --> 00:29:41,039
on the value that you know these these

742
00:29:41,039 --> 00:29:41,919
plans

743
00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:45,520
uh tend to end up on the shelf uh

744
00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,840
uh with many others so i'm just thinking

745
00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,200
in this year

746
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,480
uh when we're where constraints are more

747
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:54,559
than usual if

748
00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:57,760
i would prefer to let this one wait so

749
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,760
we do have

750
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,799
the local plans as lynn said and um

751
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:05,520
yeah i actually just can't see myself

752
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,960
supporting this one

753
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:13,840
fair enough any further speakers

754
00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:15,679
i'm going to call the question all those

755
00:30:15,679 --> 00:30:18,240
in favor

756
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,520
those opposed i see director

757
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:24,480
sebring opposed director salmon opposed

758
00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:25,600
director smith

759
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,720
and director wilson opposed

760
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:33,520
that motion does carry thank you

761
00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:35,679
and i believe number six would be the

762
00:30:35,679 --> 00:30:42,389
next one that was pulled

763
00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:45,600
and that was the regional parks trail

764
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,480
master plan i believe

765
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,909
who pulled that one

766
00:30:51,919 --> 00:30:53,919
director wilson would you like to uh

767
00:30:53,919 --> 00:30:56,000
start us off

768
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:59,750
thank you mr chair um

769
00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:02,080
mr chair i agree that uh we need a

770
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:04,399
review of the acquisition program

771
00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:06,159
there's no two ways about that because

772
00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:07,840
i've been looking very very carefully

773
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,600
into what's uh what's been going on in

774
00:31:09,600 --> 00:31:11,600
there since uh 2008

775
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:14,080
what i have a problem with and as a

776
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,159
director stone has pointed out this is a

777
00:31:16,159 --> 00:31:16,960
question of

778
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,760
budgetary stuff and one hundred thousand

779
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,269
dollars for consultants

780
00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:25,200
seems to be an awful lot now i'm going

781
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,559
back to when

782
00:31:26,559 --> 00:31:29,360
i was a so-called consultant and i know

783
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:29,840
what i

784
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:31,840
charged and the number of days that's

785
00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:33,600
involved here

786
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:36,960
is excessive to say the least it works

787
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:39,039
out to at least

788
00:31:39,039 --> 00:31:42,799
a thousand a hundred days

789
00:31:42,799 --> 00:31:44,559
and if you work that out it's gonna be

790
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,159
something like about four or five

791
00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:50,240
months of eight hour five day week so

792
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:52,880
that's a pretty in intensive thing and i

793
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:54,640
i cannot support

794
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:57,679
spending 100 000 on

795
00:31:57,679 --> 00:32:00,480
something which really is this could

796
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:01,440
easily be done

797
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:04,640
i think in-house uh with

798
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,440
um maybe even a subcommittee um but i

799
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,279
can't i can't support spending a hundred

800
00:32:09,279 --> 00:32:12,559
thousand dollars on this kind of thing

801
00:32:12,559 --> 00:32:15,039
thank you very much i have director

802
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:17,440
director marsh did i miss anyone

803
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:21,200
director morrison yes i am

804
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:23,279
also against spending a hundred thousand

805
00:32:23,279 --> 00:32:25,200
dollars on

806
00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:28,320
another uh study

807
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:32,080
uh we are spending a lot of money on

808
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:35,120
on these consultations and uh uh

809
00:32:35,120 --> 00:32:38,240
i do believe uh we have a master plan

810
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,159
if we think we should adjust it we can

811
00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:41,919
do that in-house i don't think

812
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:44,399
there's a need to to hire somebody for a

813
00:32:44,399 --> 00:32:46,240
hundred thousand dollars to tell us

814
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,919
well maybe it would be better if we did

815
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:49,360
this now uh

816
00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:53,679
um i am totally against that thank you

817
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:55,679
thank you director marsh then director

818
00:32:55,679 --> 00:32:57,120
morrison

819
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:00,159
yes thank you mr chair um as the

820
00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:03,919
um i don't know the part of the report

821
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:04,799
that

822
00:33:04,799 --> 00:33:07,840
addresses this item specifically

823
00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:12,880
um says uh under the problem opportunity

824
00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:16,000
that um as we're

825
00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:17,679
you know envisioning securing in

826
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:20,559
perpetuity a variety of outdoor

827
00:33:20,559 --> 00:33:23,600
recreational opportunities and talking

828
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:25,440
about livability etc

829
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,640
but it goes on to to speak about

830
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:32,399
our 2020 22 22 strategic

831
00:33:32,399 --> 00:33:35,519
plan and also

832
00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,880
that we want to consider the protection

833
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:39,200
of

834
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:42,480
sensitive ecosystems and significant

835
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:45,919
environmental features and

836
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:50,000
um opportunities for

837
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:52,720
all kinds of other things um i'm

838
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:55,120
assuming and maybe uh mr farquhar if

839
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,360
you're still there you could tell me

840
00:33:57,360 --> 00:33:59,519
i'm assuming the consultant wouldn't be

841
00:33:59,519 --> 00:34:01,519
sitting at a desk they would be going

842
00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:02,320
out and looking

843
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,440
at the regional parks and and checking

844
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:07,760
out um

845
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,599
some of the sensitive ecosystems am i

846
00:34:09,599 --> 00:34:12,069
right

847
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:14,159
mr chair through to director marsh

848
00:34:14,159 --> 00:34:15,839
correct this would be

849
00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:19,040
a full-scale review

850
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,800
uh and update of our regional parks

851
00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,560
trails master plan that currently is in

852
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:23,280
place

853
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:25,520
understanding that the through the board

854
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:27,520
strategic plan that there's a bit of a

855
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:30,720
shift interest in looking at

856
00:34:30,720 --> 00:34:34,159
expansion or a change to the priorities

857
00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:36,720
under the program so similar to when the

858
00:34:36,720 --> 00:34:40,079
plan was done back in 2006-2007

859
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:43,599
through consultants the consultants led

860
00:34:43,599 --> 00:34:45,760
the process from start to finish

861
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,280
including doing

862
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,040
assessments including engaging with the

863
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,839
public community groups interest groups

864
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:54,560
preparing the overall plan of all the

865
00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:56,240
level of public engagement

866
00:34:56,240 --> 00:34:58,640
and also would be looking at in this

867
00:34:58,640 --> 00:34:59,520
case

868
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,079
the interests other opportunities to

869
00:35:02,079 --> 00:35:04,160
support the program

870
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,400
through non-tax dollars by way of

871
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:09,280
donations or other means that the

872
00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:11,119
the board has indicated an interest in

873
00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:12,560
looking into so this would also be

874
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,079
delving into that as well

875
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:16,960
so the ability for staff the current

876
00:35:16,960 --> 00:35:18,480
your current staff resources within the

877
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:19,760
parks and trails division

878
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,560
i would not be able to undertake uh an

879
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,079
initiative of this scale

880
00:35:24,079 --> 00:35:25,760
uh based on the requirements uh that

881
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,240
would be laid out in doing

882
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:31,520
right and so i just like to you know i

883
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,760
acknowledge what um

884
00:35:33,760 --> 00:35:37,920
director wilson said um

885
00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:40,240
i wasn't i guess considered a consultant

886
00:35:40,240 --> 00:35:41,839
i was a facilitator

887
00:35:41,839 --> 00:35:44,160
and that's been almost 10 years and i

888
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,480
was paid a thousand dollars a day

889
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,760
so i imagine if i was to go back to that

890
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,680
um it would be a little bit more than

891
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:52,800
that

892
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:56,160
10 years later and so you know i just

893
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:58,160
have every confidence that this has been

894
00:35:58,160 --> 00:35:59,920
carefully looked at because the board

895
00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:02,240
has made it really really clear

896
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:05,359
that they wanted to have

897
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:09,359
this zero percent increase and

898
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:12,880
i have from the very first day

899
00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,440
i've sat at this table which is probably

900
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,200
eight years ago

901
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,680
heard that staff are at capacity so how

902
00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:20,480
we could

903
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,839
find as wasn't quite how

904
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:27,200
uh mr farquhar worded it but

905
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:29,440
i just don't see that we have the staff

906
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:30,320
that could take

907
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,520
four to five months to do this so

908
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:37,359
um i do not believe this is for a

909
00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:40,640
um plan that's going to sit on a shelf

910
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:44,000
this is for an um

911
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,359
active plan to um

912
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,839
tie together all of our parks and you

913
00:36:49,839 --> 00:36:51,359
know i don't think any of us

914
00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:54,079
can who've spent any time outdoors

915
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:54,880
during this

916
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,320
uh current pandemic

917
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,440
can deny that parks have never

918
00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,680
i don't think been used as much as they

919
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:04,960
are now

920
00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,839
and it's my belief that once people get

921
00:37:07,839 --> 00:37:09,839
the bug in their blood

922
00:37:09,839 --> 00:37:11,680
even when the pandemic's done they're

923
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,040
going to still be out there

924
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:16,480
and uh that makes for savings

925
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,359
in in tax dollars albeit from other

926
00:37:19,359 --> 00:37:21,280
levels of government but

927
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,599
as a few people are fond of saying

928
00:37:23,599 --> 00:37:26,000
there's only there's only one taxpayer

929
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,240
so i i do support this i'm really

930
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:29,040
grateful

931
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,079
for the work staffs put into it and

932
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:36,240
um i will be voting in favor thank you

933
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,320
director marsh i have director morrison

934
00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:39,520
steve spring then

935
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:43,200
thank you mr chair uh

936
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:47,040
so i'd like to maybe ask two things uh

937
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:51,200
first one being process i don't believe

938
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,680
this item has been moved and though we

939
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:55,359
voted on the other two i

940
00:37:55,359 --> 00:37:57,839
didn't hear them being moved or seconded

941
00:37:57,839 --> 00:37:58,640
either i

942
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,200
would love to be wrong but i think we're

943
00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:02,880
supposed to move and second each item

944
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,040
before we uh address them

945
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,440
so uh if that could be correct that i

946
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:08,960
i'd be more than willing to move this

947
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,160
item if

948
00:38:10,160 --> 00:38:12,079
if that would be the uh proper

949
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,000
procedural thing to do

950
00:38:14,000 --> 00:38:16,800
uh and if there's a problem if you're

951
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:23,270
gonna

952
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,320
thank you mr chair so um you know i'm

953
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,680
i'm i struggle in that we've had

954
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:33,440
a a lot of discussion about the uh

955
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:36,240
regional parkland acquisition fund um i

956
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,640
attended a number of the meetings in 07

957
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,839
and 08 when

958
00:38:39,839 --> 00:38:42,079
they were originally held to establish

959
00:38:42,079 --> 00:38:43,520
the plan and pass the

960
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:47,280
referendum numbers it was a monumental

961
00:38:47,280 --> 00:38:49,680
effort as i'm sure mr farquhar and other

962
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:51,520
other people that participated

963
00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:54,960
in it would agree and

964
00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:56,960
there has been significant discussion

965
00:38:56,960 --> 00:38:58,240
around this table

966
00:38:58,240 --> 00:39:00,160
about the funding of that particular

967
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:01,280
function

968
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,240
and i believe that it was this board

969
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:05,200
that said that

970
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:08,320
that needed a redo and a relook so

971
00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:10,880
i'm i'm struggling with the notion that

972
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:11,680
we

973
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:14,880
sent staff away to uh to

974
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:16,640
put together something that would give

975
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:19,119
us a an idea what it would cost to do

976
00:39:19,119 --> 00:39:20,560
the redo

977
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:22,480
and they go away and do it and then they

978
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,320
come back and and we say

979
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:27,280
well hang on maybe this isn't something

980
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,119
that we want to do

981
00:39:29,119 --> 00:39:32,720
i'm really interested in a review

982
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:34,400
of the regional parkland acquisition

983
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,200
button because it was a different scope

984
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,000
that was established then the list of

985
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,760
targeted properties

986
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:44,320
were really more of a recreational

987
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,760
nature than they were of

988
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,280
a environmental and uh environmental

989
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:49,920
asset

990
00:39:49,920 --> 00:39:53,040
perspective so you know i would support

991
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,280
this but i certainly understand

992
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,920
the rationale of maybe this isn't the

993
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:58,800
year

994
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:01,920
to proceed and i think referring it to

995
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:02,240
the

996
00:40:02,240 --> 00:40:04,079
2022 budget would be more than

997
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,160
appropriate but i won't make that motion

998
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:08,480
thank you mr chair thank you director

999
00:40:08,480 --> 00:40:09,200
morrison

1000
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:11,599
uh hopefully we did move in second the

1001
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:12,400
previous two

1002
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,680
i i'm i'm not sure if we did or not

1003
00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:17,520
we'll look back at the video later

1004
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,760
i have director sebring director

1005
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:20,880
director nicholson

1006
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:24,240
and director salmon thank you mr chair

1007
00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:27,280
um a hundred thousand dollars is a lot

1008
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:28,960
of money for a consultant

1009
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:30,560
uh let me start there and i i don't

1010
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,960
disagree with the points made by the

1011
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,839
directors uh kuhn and wilson

1012
00:40:36,839 --> 00:40:40,000
equally i'm interested in the scope of

1013
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,800
this review because

1014
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:44,480
what are we reviewing in terms of the

1015
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:45,920
parkland acquisition

1016
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,480
fund you know i have long made the case

1017
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,160
and some of you have heard me make this

1018
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,079
case going back several years

1019
00:40:52,079 --> 00:40:55,119
that this function that we have is

1020
00:40:55,119 --> 00:40:57,760
creating you know acquiring parkland

1021
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,640
over here

1022
00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,319
when we do that we create a bunch of

1023
00:41:00,319 --> 00:41:02,160
cost drivers over here

1024
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:05,839
in terms of the maintenance and the um

1025
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:07,040
the work involved

1026
00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:10,319
in in maintaining and and

1027
00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:12,400
operating the parks that we acquire with

1028
00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:14,560
the parkland acquisition fund

1029
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:16,560
uh stoney hill is the best example i

1030
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,319
mean you know that thing has been so

1031
00:41:18,319 --> 00:41:19,440
popular that now

1032
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,880
you know i don't know where that is and

1033
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:22,560
i'm not necessarily looking for that

1034
00:41:22,560 --> 00:41:23,200
mate but

1035
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:24,800
you know last year was talking about oh

1036
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:26,400
my god now we got to do a a

1037
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,000
sustainability piece for stony hill

1038
00:41:28,000 --> 00:41:29,839
because people are off the trails and

1039
00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:34,160
we're doing environmental damage so the

1040
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:35,359
scope of this

1041
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:37,760
study that we're that we're being asked

1042
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:39,200
to approve here

1043
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,480
would that include the notion

1044
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,440
of saying um you know the part-time

1045
00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:46,400
acquisition fund

1046
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,200
should be about more than just acquiring

1047
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:50,880
parkland it should also look at the

1048
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,440
ramifications of doing that

1049
00:41:53,440 --> 00:41:54,960
in terms of some of the cost drivers

1050
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:56,720
over on the other side and and i don't

1051
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,480
know whether we need

1052
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,880
um i'm not even sure whether we can do

1053
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,560
it whether we whether we could do

1054
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,599
a direction to staff to say this fund is

1055
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:07,839
not just to be used for acquisition but

1056
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:10,880
you know 70 for acquisition and 30 for

1057
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:12,640
the resulting costs i i don't know how

1058
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:13,839
that works because

1059
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:15,599
this fund was approved in a referendum

1060
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,200
would we have to go back to referendum

1061
00:42:17,200 --> 00:42:18,240
to change

1062
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:20,400
the terms of this function i i don't

1063
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,359
know that but

1064
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:22,960
that's the kind of information that i'd

1065
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,640
like to see come out of this

1066
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:27,200
review is that part of the scope of what

1067
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:27,920
we're

1068
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,560
asking the consultant to look at for 100

1069
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:31,839
000

1070
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:35,190
and if not why not

1071
00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:36,560
mr chair that would certainly be

1072
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,880
inclusive as part of uh the overall

1073
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:41,280
review update of the plan and direction

1074
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:42,880
yes that would be incredible awesome to

1075
00:42:42,880 --> 00:42:44,240
hear thank you then i'll be supporting

1076
00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:50,390
this

1077
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:52,800
allocating some funds to maintenance

1078
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:55,119
that would probably require

1079
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,359
going back to referendum as it was quite

1080
00:42:57,359 --> 00:42:59,200
specific on the purchase

1081
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:03,920
within that original implication so

1082
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:05,280
that's what i'd like that's what i'd

1083
00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,280
like to see coming out of the report

1084
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:11,359
and i see and i see our cao is sitting

1085
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:15,190
at the dock of the bay

1086
00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,599
right did you did you have something to

1087
00:43:17,599 --> 00:43:18,560
respond to by

1088
00:43:18,560 --> 00:43:21,599
my little ramp thank you

1089
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:23,280
oh thank you mr chair yeah actually i'm

1090
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:24,880
sitting that is the dock of one of our

1091
00:43:24,880 --> 00:43:25,760
regional parks

1092
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,960
butte island uh behind me um i i think

1093
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,200
i'll let the conversation unfold but i

1094
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:32,720
have a suggestion that might help us

1095
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:33,040
help

1096
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:34,160
work through this because i think what

1097
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,160
we're getting caught up in is

1098
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,560
the project and uh you really need to

1099
00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:39,920
outline the scope before you start

1100
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,920
applying a cost to it and so

1101
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:43,920
i'll let the committee continue to have

1102
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,200
their conversation but there may be

1103
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:46,319
another option that you might want to

1104
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:47,680
consider moving forward so i'll turn it

1105
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:49,599
back to the chair thank you mr chair

1106
00:43:49,599 --> 00:43:51,200
thank you very much i'll keep looking

1107
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,839
for that doc when i've exhausted my

1108
00:43:53,839 --> 00:43:54,960
speakers list

1109
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:58,480
i have director nicholson salmon

1110
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,309
wilson and marsh

1111
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:04,960
director yes i would like to get

1112
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:05,760
back to what

1113
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:08,640
uh director mark said earlier and i

1114
00:44:08,640 --> 00:44:10,720
agree with that and that is

1115
00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:14,319
this should be an austerity budget

1116
00:44:14,319 --> 00:44:16,400
to spend a hundred thousand dollars on a

1117
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:19,119
study does not go with an austerity

1118
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:19,680
budget

1119
00:44:19,680 --> 00:44:22,880
i'm sorry this uh i could see a

1120
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:24,880
possibility of uh

1121
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,880
director morrison indicated maybe to

1122
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,800
push it over into next year

1123
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:30,880
i would support that but i'm not willing

1124
00:44:30,880 --> 00:44:32,319
to support that for this year

1125
00:44:32,319 --> 00:44:36,640
thank you thank you and just a reminder

1126
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:40,160
directors um we are being recorded

1127
00:44:40,160 --> 00:44:43,599
so your body language can be seen

1128
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,319
we don't always agree but let's agree to

1129
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:47,839
disagree

1130
00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:52,710
uh director nicholson

1131
00:44:52,720 --> 00:44:56,240
thank you um i think this is a

1132
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:59,520
a very important topic and i

1133
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:03,520
am i think

1134
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:05,119
some people have thought that staff

1135
00:45:05,119 --> 00:45:07,599
would be able to do this work i don't

1136
00:45:07,599 --> 00:45:09,359
think they have the either either the

1137
00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:10,720
capacity or

1138
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:12,160
probably the skill set when you're

1139
00:45:12,160 --> 00:45:13,760
talking about um

1140
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,400
the equal benefits of protecting

1141
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:17,440
parkland

1142
00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:20,960
and so i think that we do need to do a

1143
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:22,960
review with qualified people that can

1144
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:24,800
provide that kind of advice

1145
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:27,520
i also think that it's we have a

1146
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,200
community asset

1147
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:31,119
out there many people in the community

1148
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:32,880
are very engaged in parks

1149
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,040
and actually have a lot of the the

1150
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,880
qualifications that you might be looking

1151
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:37,599
for

1152
00:45:37,599 --> 00:45:40,880
and i um based on our conversation about

1153
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:42,400
what the scope of this is

1154
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,800
i think that we would benefit from

1155
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:49,599
setting up a committee to help us

1156
00:45:49,599 --> 00:45:50,720
develop

1157
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:53,119
some terms of reference for this review

1158
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:54,000
and to

1159
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:56,000
start to have a community conversation

1160
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:57,200
because it's important to bring the

1161
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:58,560
community along on this

1162
00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:01,520
topic because they are very um

1163
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:02,880
interested in it

1164
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:06,480
um and

1165
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,720
i think that this would probably be

1166
00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:10,720
better if it was phased over two years

1167
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:11,839
so to try and

1168
00:46:11,839 --> 00:46:15,440
do at less cost this year to try and set

1169
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,880
up a

1170
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,480
commission or a committee or whatever

1171
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,319
the right term is for this

1172
00:46:20,319 --> 00:46:23,280
um a standing committee i guess to do

1173
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:23,839
that

1174
00:46:23,839 --> 00:46:26,319
to do to help with the work and to get

1175
00:46:26,319 --> 00:46:26,880
the

1176
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:29,280
framework figured out and then next year

1177
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,040
go ahead with the review

1178
00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:33,839
i suspect that there's quite a bit of

1179
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:36,720
technical information that we don't have

1180
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:39,920
about our parks and their i know that we

1181
00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,160
haven't done an ecological inventory for

1182
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,040
example

1183
00:46:43,040 --> 00:46:45,680
and i think that kind of work is going

1184
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,000
to be important as we move forward

1185
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,520
but ultimately from my perspective

1186
00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:53,280
the most important thing right now is to

1187
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,440
be continuing to put money in the bank

1188
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:58,640
so when properties

1189
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,560
opportunities to purchase properties

1190
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:03,040
arise that we know have significant

1191
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,079
ecological value and we need to be able

1192
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,200
to position to

1193
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,520
purchase those so and i think there's

1194
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:10,640
enough um

1195
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,240
community knowledge about which those

1196
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:13,839
properties are right now because we

1197
00:47:13,839 --> 00:47:14,960
don't really have

1198
00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:18,000
um a large number of parks

1199
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:21,599
um as it is so i i guess i would be

1200
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,520
interested in sort of a phased approach

1201
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,319
with community involvement

1202
00:47:26,319 --> 00:47:28,160
thank you very much director nicholson i

1203
00:47:28,160 --> 00:47:29,440
have director salmon

1204
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,800
wilson marsh and smith director salmon

1205
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:33,839
please

1206
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:37,599
yeah thank you um i i prefer to wait

1207
00:47:37,599 --> 00:47:40,240
till 20.2 for a couple of reasons

1208
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:43,599
um you know it's it's almost like i'd

1209
00:47:43,599 --> 00:47:45,599
rather put 100 000 into uh

1210
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,440
actual acquisition if we were going to

1211
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:48,880
do that rather than

1212
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,839
a study i think sometimes we fall into

1213
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:54,240
this sort of spill and a study that just

1214
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,960
having it done will make it happen

1215
00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:57,920
whereas of course it's

1216
00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,640
this all depends on the availability of

1217
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:01,520
the actual

1218
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:04,640
land and whether we can make a deal so

1219
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:08,079
i think in this year um given that our

1220
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:09,680
existing master plan

1221
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,359
actually supposed to run to the end of

1222
00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:13,359
2022 would be uh

1223
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:16,559
i'd much prefer to uh defer starting

1224
00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:18,319
that and maybe get a bit more clarity on

1225
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:19,760
the scope of what we're trying to do in

1226
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:21,200
the meantime

1227
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:24,319
thank you thank you moving on to

1228
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:27,440
director wilson

1229
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:30,559
thank you mr chair yeah um i'm glad this

1230
00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:31,520
has brought forward

1231
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,119
this discussion because it is an

1232
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:34,640
important one i

1233
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:36,079
think one of the things i've got to pick

1234
00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,000
up on is that um

1235
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:39,440
i'm not picking on you director marsh

1236
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,359
but you said that this board has made it

1237
00:48:41,359 --> 00:48:42,240
clear

1238
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:46,400
that they want a 0 mandate increase here

1239
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,400
uh this is not going to be uh helping

1240
00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,319
that in any other way

1241
00:48:50,319 --> 00:48:53,119
um and i'd like to know whether some of

1242
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:53,680
them

1243
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,920
some of the phrases which are used in in

1244
00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:57,680
this report here

1245
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:01,599
um for uh environmental uh protection

1246
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:03,359
conservation etc

1247
00:49:03,359 --> 00:49:06,240
under the lga i've looked and i can't

1248
00:49:06,240 --> 00:49:06,640
see

1249
00:49:06,640 --> 00:49:08,960
anywhere in the lga where there's a

1250
00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:10,559
mandate for local government

1251
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:13,440
such as ours to protect ecosystems or

1252
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,319
something like that that is a provincial

1253
00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:19,839
um area and i don't see anywhere else

1254
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:20,160
that

1255
00:49:20,160 --> 00:49:22,960
uh that it's going in one of the most

1256
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,480
important parts that

1257
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:26,640
has to be looked at is it's all very

1258
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:28,319
well and and and i'm glad that

1259
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:30,800
um director sebring brought this up was

1260
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,680
the cost

1261
00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:34,240
of maintaining the land once we've got

1262
00:49:34,240 --> 00:49:34,720
it

1263
00:49:34,720 --> 00:49:36,559
every report that has come forward has

1264
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:37,839
said basically

1265
00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:39,200
uh we're going to buy this lender we'd

1266
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,559
like to buy this land it's going to cost

1267
00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:41,599
a million dollars

1268
00:49:41,599 --> 00:49:45,040
nowhere in those reports does it say but

1269
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,720
it's gonna cost us two hundred thousand

1270
00:49:46,720 --> 00:49:48,960
a year to maintain develop or improve

1271
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:49,599
this

1272
00:49:49,599 --> 00:49:51,200
and this is something that i would like

1273
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,920
to see in any report that comes forward

1274
00:49:53,920 --> 00:49:56,319
regarding acquisition there should be a

1275
00:49:56,319 --> 00:49:57,599
section in there

1276
00:49:57,599 --> 00:50:01,040
which includes a detailed analysis

1277
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:03,599
of the possible costs involved in taking

1278
00:50:03,599 --> 00:50:04,400
that on

1279
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,960
you buy a car it's going to cost you you

1280
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:08,960
buy a house it's going to cost you as it

1281
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:09,839
comes on

1282
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:12,480
we don't see those detailed analyses of

1283
00:50:12,480 --> 00:50:13,040
where

1284
00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:14,960
and how much it's going to cost as we go

1285
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:16,240
forward and that's something i would

1286
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:17,599
like to see in

1287
00:50:17,599 --> 00:50:19,680
involved one of the things that was

1288
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:21,200
touched on was that

1289
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:23,280
all this was agreed by referendum and

1290
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,119
any changes would have to go

1291
00:50:25,119 --> 00:50:27,119
back to a referendum and in this

1292
00:50:27,119 --> 00:50:28,640
particular case um

1293
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:30,720
i'm going to say thank you very much to

1294
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,559
the finance department because

1295
00:50:32,559 --> 00:50:34,640
we've had um i've had some discussions

1296
00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,720
with them during the week

1297
00:50:36,720 --> 00:50:40,079
they're very very good at explaining uh

1298
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:42,559
the intricacies of what goes on as far

1299
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:44,400
as financing is concerned and i have a

1300
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:45,839
much better picture

1301
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:47,839
yes this would have any changes to the

1302
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:49,680
acquisition would have to go back to a

1303
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:50,960
referendum

1304
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:54,640
um certainly not the much maligned aap

1305
00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:58,400
that's for sure so we can't change the

1306
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:00,960
acquisition without going to

1307
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,240
a a very costly thing but what we can do

1308
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,880
is make sure that any acquisition report

1309
00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:08,319
that comes forward

1310
00:51:08,319 --> 00:51:11,520
contains a section which says if we do

1311
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,480
this is what it will cost you for the

1312
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:15,839
next five years

1313
00:51:15,839 --> 00:51:19,280
thank you very much thank you directoris

1314
00:51:19,280 --> 00:51:21,599
wilson i have director marsh director

1315
00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:22,319
smith

1316
00:51:22,319 --> 00:51:25,440
and director staples yes

1317
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,000
thank you very much mr chair i believe

1318
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:28,880
what i

1319
00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:33,040
said was um i acknowledge that

1320
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,359
a lot of people on the board wanted this

1321
00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:36,319
to be honest

1322
00:51:36,319 --> 00:51:39,359
an austerity austerity budget

1323
00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:41,680
so um director kuhn if you thought i was

1324
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,640
saying that i

1325
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:44,240
agreed with that that's not what i was

1326
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,319
saying

1327
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:49,599
the part of the report

1328
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:56,230
i don't know what you call it the the um

1329
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:58,720
the second part the the part comes up

1330
00:51:58,720 --> 00:52:00,960
that comes out of the main page

1331
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:05,680
uh speaks about the need for

1332
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,030
protection and preservation of

1333
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,000
sensitive ecosystems and someone sent me

1334
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,000
an article this morning

1335
00:52:16,000 --> 00:52:18,000
written in the guardian that i i haven't

1336
00:52:18,000 --> 00:52:19,680
had a chance to read

1337
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,359
but basically um it's

1338
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:26,000
this will give you an idea top

1339
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:27,599
scientists

1340
00:52:27,599 --> 00:52:30,839
warn of ghastly future of mass

1341
00:52:30,839 --> 00:52:34,400
extinction and climate disruption

1342
00:52:34,400 --> 00:52:38,000
and and i think that we've you know for

1343
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:40,480
well as long as i've been a counselor or

1344
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:43,119
and or a director but even longer

1345
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:47,760
we've known that um we were on a course

1346
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:51,680
but should we continue it um

1347
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:53,200
and i'm talking about the collective

1348
00:52:53,200 --> 00:52:54,720
worldwide we

1349
00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:58,079
because i think uh 10 years ago the cbrd

1350
00:52:58,079 --> 00:52:59,440
was doing some really great things in

1351
00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:00,559
terms of

1352
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:04,800
purchasing land but it seems to me given

1353
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,760
um the

1354
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,680
[Music]

1355
00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:12,480
acceleration of the changes we've been

1356
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:15,520
warned we're coming for quite some time

1357
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:18,800
you know for instance um you know the

1358
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:19,680
entire

1359
00:53:19,680 --> 00:53:21,440
west coast of the united states burning

1360
00:53:21,440 --> 00:53:23,119
most of the summer

1361
00:53:23,119 --> 00:53:26,480
and the number of floods i think

1362
00:53:26,480 --> 00:53:28,400
i think someone told me and i didn't

1363
00:53:28,400 --> 00:53:30,640
check it out i believed them

1364
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:32,720
that and it was before last night's

1365
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:33,680
storm

1366
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,160
that in a period of about eight days we

1367
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:36,800
had

1368
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:38,960
seven storms or something like that in

1369
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:41,599
this general region

1370
00:53:41,599 --> 00:53:43,599
so mr chair point of order are we

1371
00:53:43,599 --> 00:53:45,359
talking about budget here are we talking

1372
00:53:45,359 --> 00:53:46,079
about the

1373
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,270
environment

1374
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,599
thank you director wilson continue

1375
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:52,720
director marsh

1376
00:53:52,720 --> 00:53:57,839
thank you mr chair so um

1377
00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:02,319
i so uh i feel that um

1378
00:54:02,319 --> 00:54:05,599
you know if people want to put it off

1379
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:07,839
you know that's could be the way they go

1380
00:54:07,839 --> 00:54:10,480
i would prefer to get started

1381
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,880
especially if as has been said it's

1382
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:16,400
going to take four to five months

1383
00:54:16,400 --> 00:54:19,920
and you know we are actually

1384
00:54:19,920 --> 00:54:23,520
so fortunate here to have

1385
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:27,599
so much land and um

1386
00:54:27,599 --> 00:54:31,040
much of it is fee simple land and

1387
00:54:31,040 --> 00:54:34,400
so i think that given we've run down the

1388
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:38,160
reserves pretty low in this function

1389
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:41,359
and um we agreed as part of our

1390
00:54:41,359 --> 00:54:43,040
strategic plan we wanted to have a

1391
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,200
review of it

1392
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:48,559
um you know i would hate to miss uh

1393
00:54:48,559 --> 00:54:53,839
the chance to to do um

1394
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:57,359
purchases that would help us do our part

1395
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:59,680
and and adapt because i think the

1396
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,880
mitigation

1397
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:03,119
of climate change those days are over

1398
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:04,079
now

1399
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:06,720
we are facing it and it's going to

1400
00:55:06,720 --> 00:55:08,559
continue to get worse

1401
00:55:08,559 --> 00:55:11,520
and the decisions we make today will

1402
00:55:11,520 --> 00:55:13,520
affect our great grandchildren

1403
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:16,400
on how bad it's going to be including

1404
00:55:16,400 --> 00:55:19,040
potentially leading to extinction so

1405
00:55:19,040 --> 00:55:22,400
i i support doing this um

1406
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:25,599
and i as you know would support the full

1407
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:27,280
acquisition which

1408
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:31,200
i understand um is not likely to happen

1409
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,079
under this

1410
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:34,720
this board but i i'll end with saying

1411
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:35,599
that

1412
00:55:35,599 --> 00:55:38,640
a statistical survey done

1413
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:41,680
by the center for policy alternatives in

1414
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:43,200
canada

1415
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,400
um the results of that were that 71

1416
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:51,119
of canadians want every level of

1417
00:55:51,119 --> 00:55:52,160
government

1418
00:55:52,160 --> 00:55:54,880
that includes local to do everything

1419
00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:56,480
they can

1420
00:55:56,480 --> 00:56:00,160
no matter what it costs basically

1421
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:03,280
to preserve uh our ecosystems

1422
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:06,319
and to do our part in adapting

1423
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:09,440
to climate change um

1424
00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:13,990
so you can read that in um

1425
00:56:14,000 --> 00:56:17,760
a book called a good war

1426
00:56:17,760 --> 00:56:20,799
and it's all right i hate to cut you off

1427
00:56:20,799 --> 00:56:24,240
i do have an extensive speaker's list

1428
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,400
i'm done thank you very much thank you

1429
00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:28,160
for your tolerance i know that we do

1430
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,440
uh that you do support the function and

1431
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,280
we appreciate your

1432
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:36,400
your input director smith staples

1433
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:40,069
yanni dinardo and salmon

1434
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:43,520
uh thank you i also um

1435
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:47,680
have concerns with the development costs

1436
00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:51,680
involved in purchasing uh land

1437
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,880
that this function definitely doesn't

1438
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,280
take that into consideration it's very

1439
00:56:57,280 --> 00:56:58,799
important i mean we're sitting here

1440
00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:00,319
looking at

1441
00:57:00,319 --> 00:57:03,520
rcao's background picture which is butte

1442
00:57:03,520 --> 00:57:04,160
island

1443
00:57:04,160 --> 00:57:07,359
and a wharf and that comes with

1444
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:09,200
conditional

1445
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,160
assessments and wondering what the

1446
00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:14,319
replacement cost of that is

1447
00:57:14,319 --> 00:57:16,240
so i think that we need to also take

1448
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:17,520
into consideration

1449
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,680
development costs whether trails will be

1450
00:57:19,680 --> 00:57:21,839
put into the property

1451
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:24,960
along with the purchase price i

1452
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,440
also have concerns that the province of

1453
00:57:27,440 --> 00:57:28,240
bc

1454
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:31,839
should be looking at tracts of land and

1455
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:35,200
conservancy organizations

1456
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:38,319
that purchase land so i'm a little

1457
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:39,520
concerned about us

1458
00:57:39,520 --> 00:57:42,480
heading off into a direction that is not

1459
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,160
something we're mandated

1460
00:57:44,160 --> 00:57:47,680
as a local government i

1461
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:50,559
believe that we need to pursue this

1462
00:57:50,559 --> 00:57:52,079
looking into it

1463
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,640
but a hundred thousand out of operating

1464
00:57:54,640 --> 00:57:56,480
reserves at this time

1465
00:57:56,480 --> 00:57:58,400
is a hundred thousand that's not

1466
00:57:58,400 --> 00:57:59,839
available for

1467
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:02,799
the purchase of land i will not be

1468
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:03,839
supporting

1469
00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:07,280
this uh project at this time

1470
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:09,839
thank you thank you very much director

1471
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:13,440
smith i have director staples next

1472
00:58:13,440 --> 00:58:15,200
yeah thank you i think that we always

1473
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:16,880
have to remember the cost of

1474
00:58:16,880 --> 00:58:19,920
when we don't do things as well um

1475
00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,960
this this every time this topic comes up

1476
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,960
um at our board anything related to

1477
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:26,160
parks we sort of

1478
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:28,079
seem to meander away from the actual

1479
00:58:28,079 --> 00:58:29,599
motion that's on the floor

1480
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:31,119
and what we're actually discussing

1481
00:58:31,119 --> 00:58:32,960
discussing into the

1482
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:34,799
you know whether or not we value the

1483
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,319
importance of parks

1484
00:58:36,319 --> 00:58:38,799
and since everyone's been going there

1485
00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:39,599
i'm gonna step

1486
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:42,720
in at this time and go there as well

1487
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:46,079
because the public has been

1488
00:58:46,079 --> 00:58:48,720
over and over again in in surveys that

1489
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,240
we've done at the city and surveys that

1490
00:58:50,240 --> 00:58:51,359
the regional district

1491
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:53,440
has done in the people who have come to

1492
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:54,880
the budget meetings

1493
00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:56,960
one of the things that people talk about

1494
00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:58,319
particularly

1495
00:58:58,319 --> 00:59:01,280
more now than ever during covid is the

1496
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,079
importance

1497
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,799
of parks the importance of outdoor space

1498
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:06,559
that's accessible to everyone

1499
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:08,559
the importance of protecting those

1500
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:09,920
spaces

1501
00:59:09,920 --> 00:59:13,520
and as i've heard a million times

1502
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:16,799
at every conference i've ever gone to

1503
00:59:16,799 --> 00:59:19,839
from local politicians from people

1504
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:22,079
you know we we can say that we need the

1505
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:23,359
province to do this

1506
00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:25,440
but this is the community that we live

1507
00:59:25,440 --> 00:59:27,359
in and we need to decide what's

1508
00:59:27,359 --> 00:59:29,200
important to us and our community has

1509
00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:32,960
asked us over and over again to value

1510
00:59:32,960 --> 00:59:35,599
parks to value outdoor spaces to value

1511
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:38,160
our ecosystem and to protect it

1512
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:42,240
and so i'm not saying that this study is

1513
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:45,440
is i liked director nicholson's idea of

1514
00:59:45,440 --> 00:59:47,359
phasing something in i think that that

1515
00:59:47,359 --> 00:59:48,400
would be something

1516
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:51,359
at this time that would um be

1517
00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:52,400
appropriate

1518
00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:55,040
but i think the ongoing conversation

1519
00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:55,520
about

1520
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,839
not supporting um and protecting

1521
00:59:59,839 --> 01:00:02,640
space in our region is is not a

1522
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:06,549
direction that we should go as a board

1523
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:09,359
thank you thank you director staples

1524
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,440
perhaps we have to lean

1525
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:13,920
lenient of a chair to allow that sort of

1526
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:14,960
discussion to

1527
01:00:14,960 --> 01:00:18,160
continue no in all fairness i think all

1528
01:00:18,160 --> 01:00:19,200
points of view are

1529
01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:21,520
our relatives but if we can stick to the

1530
01:00:21,520 --> 01:00:22,799
budget portion that we're

1531
01:00:22,799 --> 01:00:25,200
discussing today i'd appreciate that

1532
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,440
director yanni dinardo

1533
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,240
thank you mr chair um i would just like

1534
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,280
to say that

1535
01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,400
uh the scope of this i am in favor

1536
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,319
of the parkland acquisition but it we

1537
01:00:38,319 --> 01:00:40,960
did say that we wanted a review

1538
01:00:40,960 --> 01:00:43,599
um i'm just concerned about the scope of

1539
01:00:43,599 --> 01:00:46,240
this review i'm all in favor of it

1540
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:49,680
and um i i kind of between

1541
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,359
uh director sebring and director

1542
01:00:51,359 --> 01:00:53,440
nicholson the maintenance the long-term

1543
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:54,000
costs

1544
01:00:54,000 --> 01:00:56,319
like they're all great but what will it

1545
01:00:56,319 --> 01:00:57,440
cost us

1546
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,599
later it should be in the scope like it

1547
01:00:59,599 --> 01:01:00,720
needs to be

1548
01:01:00,720 --> 01:01:02,400
the maintenance the whole package is

1549
01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,480
this another staff member is this you

1550
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,400
know i believe that we need to look at

1551
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,119
this

1552
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,319
in likely even a phased

1553
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:13,520
um in a phased project too

1554
01:01:13,520 --> 01:01:16,799
so part of it this year and and part of

1555
01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:18,799
it next year and not really rushing it

1556
01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:20,240
and just having

1557
01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:22,559
you know a consultant paper we need to

1558
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,240
really look at this in

1559
01:01:24,240 --> 01:01:27,760
and the long-term costs as well

1560
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:30,000
i think our cio would like to chime in

1561
01:01:30,000 --> 01:01:31,920
on this yeah thank you mr chair so i've

1562
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:33,520
been listening to the conversation and

1563
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:35,119
directors are all making good points and

1564
01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:38,240
maybe just to help you along

1565
01:01:38,240 --> 01:01:39,839
and to compile a bunch of the comments

1566
01:01:39,839 --> 01:01:42,160
that were made we can afford to

1567
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,040
to spend some time developing the scope

1568
01:01:45,040 --> 01:01:46,640
of this project before approving the

1569
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:48,079
budget and i get the sense that there's

1570
01:01:48,079 --> 01:01:50,000
differing differing expectations around

1571
01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:50,880
the table with

1572
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:52,960
with respect to what this uh review

1573
01:01:52,960 --> 01:01:54,480
might entail so

1574
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:57,200
uh for your consideration you may want

1575
01:01:57,200 --> 01:01:58,160
to consider having

1576
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,119
having a select committee of the of the

1577
01:02:01,119 --> 01:02:01,440
uh

1578
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,520
of the regional services committee to to

1579
01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:04,720
come together

1580
01:02:04,720 --> 01:02:06,799
develop the scope so that staff can then

1581
01:02:06,799 --> 01:02:08,559
go out and determine how best to deliver

1582
01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,160
that whether we would do it in a hybrid

1583
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,440
model between

1584
01:02:11,440 --> 01:02:13,599
uh staff and consultants or consultant

1585
01:02:13,599 --> 01:02:14,880
but i think we've kind of put the cart

1586
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,079
before the horse and we're getting

1587
01:02:16,079 --> 01:02:17,760
bogged down on that so

1588
01:02:17,760 --> 01:02:19,599
i would present that to the to the

1589
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:21,440
committee for consideration that we

1590
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:22,000
defer

1591
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,599
it's coming from operating reserves so

1592
01:02:23,599 --> 01:02:25,440
you can amend the budget at a later date

1593
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,119
to accommodate the cost of doing this

1594
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:29,039
project moving forward

1595
01:02:29,039 --> 01:02:31,760
great thank you for that uh insight i

1596
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:34,000
have two more speakers director salmon

1597
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:36,160
and director wilson do you still wish to

1598
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:37,520
speak

1599
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,920
directly salmon yeah briefly that that

1600
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:41,760
helps thank you mr crutherson

1601
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:43,599
well i just had a specific just starting

1602
01:02:43,599 --> 01:02:45,839
back to what director wilson said

1603
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:48,400
um if we did this management plan and it

1604
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,680
came out with a new

1605
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,920
new direction new criteria for

1606
01:02:51,920 --> 01:02:53,119
acquisition

1607
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:54,960
does that mean we would need to get new

1608
01:02:54,960 --> 01:03:02,079
public approval on another referendum

1609
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:04,000
chair i think i could respond to that no

1610
01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:05,520
i don't believe so i mean the the

1611
01:03:05,520 --> 01:03:06,319
services for

1612
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:08,480
acquisition of parks how you go about

1613
01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:10,160
are there priorities or the criteria

1614
01:03:10,160 --> 01:03:11,520
that you use i don't believe that we

1615
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,200
would require an amendment

1616
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:16,079
um to the to the service to do that okay

1617
01:03:16,079 --> 01:03:18,000
thank you

1618
01:03:18,000 --> 01:03:19,680
but i think one of the questions if i

1619
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:21,920
may was if maintenance were to be added

1620
01:03:21,920 --> 01:03:22,720
into that

1621
01:03:22,720 --> 01:03:25,760
would that require um any

1622
01:03:25,760 --> 01:03:28,319
any input reference wise yes through the

1623
01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:30,240
chair the the uh

1624
01:03:30,240 --> 01:03:32,480
the service is specific to acquisition

1625
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:33,440
uh maintenance is

1626
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,520
is a separate issue and i think those

1627
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,039
issues of incorporating maintenance

1628
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:38,720
costs into acquisition

1629
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:40,960
um one's acquisition one's operating but

1630
01:03:40,960 --> 01:03:42,480
that can be included in your scope of

1631
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:44,640
your review as well to to

1632
01:03:44,640 --> 01:03:46,640
to discuss great just so that we're

1633
01:03:46,640 --> 01:03:48,240
clear i have director wilson and i'm

1634
01:03:48,240 --> 01:03:51,829
director still

1635
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:54,000
thank you mr chair um there's some good

1636
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,039
uh

1637
01:03:55,039 --> 01:03:56,480
there's some good discussion coming

1638
01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:59,200
forward here and i'd like to just um

1639
01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:02,079
reinforce the fact that i am not a catch

1640
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:03,520
parkland acquisition

1641
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:06,160
at all i'm just looking at the way it's

1642
01:04:06,160 --> 01:04:07,599
been

1643
01:04:07,599 --> 01:04:10,319
administered over the last few years and

1644
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:10,880
that's

1645
01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:12,880
basically what i'm looking at is the

1646
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,720
cost the budgetary cost

1647
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:17,039
of this and that's why i brought up the

1648
01:04:17,039 --> 01:04:18,720
ongoing maintenance the improvements and

1649
01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:20,480
everything else that goes with it

1650
01:04:20,480 --> 01:04:23,599
um i i have to say about the um

1651
01:04:23,599 --> 01:04:25,440
budgetary meetings that we're public

1652
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:26,799
meetings that we had

1653
01:04:26,799 --> 01:04:28,640
um and i think director staples just

1654
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:31,039
said um that you know there were some

1655
01:04:31,039 --> 01:04:34,319
um attendees public attendees who came

1656
01:04:34,319 --> 01:04:35,760
there weren't that many there was only

1657
01:04:35,760 --> 01:04:37,760
one uh that on certainly

1658
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:40,319
and i attended every all four of them

1659
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:41,039
and any

1660
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:44,559
opposition or any um any

1661
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,799
anything that's coming forward in in

1662
01:04:46,799 --> 01:04:48,960
support of the parkland acquisition seem

1663
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:49,920
to be coming

1664
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,799
from one from one direction only and and

1665
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:54,640
i'm concerned about that but

1666
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:57,760
however let me let me reinforce i am not

1667
01:04:57,760 --> 01:04:59,200
opposed to acquisition

1668
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:02,400
i am in favor of acquisition what i am

1669
01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:03,440
not in favor of

1670
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:05,599
is the way it's being spent and that's

1671
01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,680
why i want to be so careful

1672
01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:10,160
on how much it's actually going to cost

1673
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:11,200
us to buy

1674
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,119
that and then maintain that as well

1675
01:05:15,119 --> 01:05:17,599
thank you director wilson director stone

1676
01:05:17,599 --> 01:05:18,559
to close

1677
01:05:18,559 --> 01:05:21,520
yeah just to to summarize um there is in

1678
01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:22,480
the in the

1679
01:05:22,480 --> 01:05:23,839
materials when we establish the

1680
01:05:23,839 --> 01:05:26,000
referendum it does say specifically

1681
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:28,559
uh 11 specific sites in of interest

1682
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:29,680
having significant

1683
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:32,000
regional outdoor recreation and natural

1684
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,240
values for acquisition so

1685
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,559
it was understood from my recollection

1686
01:05:36,559 --> 01:05:37,839
and from the materials that i've

1687
01:05:37,839 --> 01:05:38,880
collected that

1688
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,119
that there is some contemplation of

1689
01:05:41,119 --> 01:05:43,520
natural values or ecological values if

1690
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:44,079
you will

1691
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,000
um that being said i'm fully supportive

1692
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:47,680
of deferring the actual spend

1693
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:49,599
till either later this year as mr

1694
01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:50,880
crothers just said

1695
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,720
we can amend the budget if we decide we

1696
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,640
need some funding as we get through this

1697
01:05:54,640 --> 01:05:55,520
year

1698
01:05:55,520 --> 01:05:57,200
but deferring that item this year and

1699
01:05:57,200 --> 01:05:59,680
doing like he also suggested a select

1700
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:00,319
committee

1701
01:06:00,319 --> 01:06:02,480
where we can work with staff and members

1702
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,000
of the board to determine

1703
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,160
the scope of the review and just a lot

1704
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:07,599
final comment is

1705
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:09,520
parkland acquisition we have a function

1706
01:06:09,520 --> 01:06:11,839
for parkland maintenance and operations

1707
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:13,680
we already have a function for

1708
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,720
it's just that when the reports come it

1709
01:06:16,720 --> 01:06:17,119
should

1710
01:06:17,119 --> 01:06:19,200
tell us what those costs will be not

1711
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,640
that we have to change the function and

1712
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,559
draw it down to do the maintenance

1713
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:24,880
but that we know that the other function

1714
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:26,799
is going to bump up as a result of

1715
01:06:26,799 --> 01:06:30,000
a parkland acquisition so um i would say

1716
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:30,960
that i think we're

1717
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:32,960
ready to call the question thank you we

1718
01:06:32,960 --> 01:06:34,400
are and the uh

1719
01:06:34,400 --> 01:06:36,079
it has been moved in second i see

1720
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:40,079
director nicholson's hand come up though

1721
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:42,960
thanks i just would like i i i'm i think

1722
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,400
we're heading in the right direction on

1723
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,319
the select committee but i would like to

1724
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:47,119
make sure that

1725
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,520
we do that this get it going sooner

1726
01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:51,520
rather than later

1727
01:06:51,520 --> 01:06:53,119
so that we actually get some work

1728
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:54,880
substantive work done this year so we

1729
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,960
are in a better position to

1730
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,440
do some work uh you know to get move on

1731
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,599
things next year

1732
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:03,599
um so i guess my question through just

1733
01:07:03,599 --> 01:07:05,359
through to you just to staff is

1734
01:07:05,359 --> 01:07:07,839
do you have the capacity to get this off

1735
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:12,710
the ground right away

1736
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,760
i think that would be up to us to

1737
01:07:15,760 --> 01:07:17,599
implement that select committee through

1738
01:07:17,599 --> 01:07:19,200
chair stone

1739
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:21,359
and to get that process going as soon as

1740
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:23,200
possible if i'm not mistaken

1741
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:26,839
uh if you could correct me if i'm wrong

1742
01:07:26,839 --> 01:07:29,359
chairstone

1743
01:07:29,359 --> 01:07:31,039
right as far as i can tell i think that

1744
01:07:31,039 --> 01:07:32,720
there's going to be some requiring of

1745
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,400
staff resourcing but we can talk about

1746
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:35,440
that with staff

1747
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:37,760
if we do need other resources as mr

1748
01:07:37,760 --> 01:07:39,760
crothers already explained

1749
01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,440
we can make that budget amendment if we

1750
01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,799
want to allocate a small amount of

1751
01:07:42,799 --> 01:07:44,160
funding out of those operational

1752
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,440
reserves this year

1753
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:47,359
um if we need some assistance in in

1754
01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:48,960
helping develop that scope but i don't

1755
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,319
see that as a necessity at this moment

1756
01:07:52,319 --> 01:07:54,319
as soon as possible implementing that

1757
01:07:54,319 --> 01:07:57,200
subcommittee uh yes mr crothers

1758
01:07:57,200 --> 01:07:59,200
so given that this is a corporate

1759
01:07:59,200 --> 01:08:00,480
services

1760
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:02,160
meeting to discuss budget i would

1761
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:04,000
suggest that you refer this matter

1762
01:08:04,000 --> 01:08:05,520
you can deal with this resolution in

1763
01:08:05,520 --> 01:08:08,960
front of you back to regional services

1764
01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:10,000
at which time you can have a

1765
01:08:10,000 --> 01:08:11,920
conversation about the establishment of

1766
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:14,079
a select committee and and how to go

1767
01:08:14,079 --> 01:08:15,680
about that and what support staff can

1768
01:08:15,680 --> 01:08:16,400
provide to

1769
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:19,520
uh to get that uh committee established

1770
01:08:19,520 --> 01:08:22,839
thank you very much one more time for

1771
01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:24,159
hands

1772
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:28,149
so we do have a motion on the floor

1773
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:30,400
do we need a referral motion director

1774
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:32,870
morrison

1775
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:36,309
thank you mr chair

1776
01:08:36,319 --> 01:08:39,679
so perhaps staff can correct me if i'm

1777
01:08:39,679 --> 01:08:40,719
wrong

1778
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:44,159
um the motion that we're putting

1779
01:08:44,159 --> 01:08:47,600
that's before us is a placeholder

1780
01:08:47,600 --> 01:08:50,799
to possibly do the work with

1781
01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:52,880
funds that will come out of operating

1782
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,719
reserve

1783
01:08:54,719 --> 01:09:00,400
so if we approve this resolution

1784
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,839
all of those things can take place

1785
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:05,920
and we don't have to spend a penny of

1786
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:07,040
money

1787
01:09:07,040 --> 01:09:10,719
or a penny until the scope in terms of

1788
01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:12,000
reference or whatever

1789
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:15,679
select committee is decided upon

1790
01:09:15,679 --> 01:09:19,199
if this resolution moves forward and is

1791
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:20,000
adopted as

1792
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,359
is is is that a correct assessment

1793
01:09:23,359 --> 01:09:25,600
of the outcome of passing this

1794
01:09:25,600 --> 01:09:27,520
resolution

1795
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:28,960
is there a staff person could answer

1796
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,669
that

1797
01:09:31,679 --> 01:09:34,400
i will refer to ms saldara to answer

1798
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:39,510
that

1799
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,359
my understanding based on the discussion

1800
01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:44,799
was that we would defer

1801
01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:47,040
allocating funds towards this project

1802
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:48,159
until we had

1803
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:50,000
uh set up the select committee and

1804
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:52,239
established a clear return of reference

1805
01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:53,839
so you could still do it but it would

1806
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:57,270
require a budget amendment

1807
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,760
okay that clarifies i think i saw

1808
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,960
director marsh please

1809
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:05,199
yes i'm sorry mr chair but i got bumped

1810
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:07,199
off for about five minutes so

1811
01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,199
i'd really like to just hear the motion

1812
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:16,800
before you call the vote thank you

1813
01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,480
miss lego would you like to read that

1814
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:20,239
sure uh the motion was that the

1815
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:21,120
supplemental

1816
01:10:21,120 --> 01:10:22,320
that would be recommended to the board

1817
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:23,600
that the supplemental request for

1818
01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:25,760
function 285 regional parkland

1819
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,840
acquisition master plan review be

1820
01:10:28,840 --> 01:10:31,600
approved

1821
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:35,920
okay are we ready for the question

1822
01:10:35,920 --> 01:10:39,590
all those in favor

1823
01:10:39,600 --> 01:10:43,199
those opposed see director

1824
01:10:43,199 --> 01:10:46,719
sebring wilson smith

1825
01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:51,679
yanni dinardo salmon and

1826
01:10:51,679 --> 01:10:54,950
anyone else

1827
01:10:54,960 --> 01:10:56,840
can you leave your hands up again those

1828
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:00,149
opposed

1829
01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:03,760
sebring smith danny dinardo

1830
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:08,870
salmon wilson

1831
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:12,000
miss lego that's six opposed

1832
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:15,600
so the motion carries can i just

1833
01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,320
very much absolutely absolutely director

1834
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,040
stone

1835
01:11:19,040 --> 01:11:20,960
uh i just want to say this has no effect

1836
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:22,880
on requisition and again

1837
01:11:22,880 --> 01:11:24,960
as staff said six of one half dozen to

1838
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,159
the other right so

1839
01:11:26,159 --> 01:11:28,080
the motion's approved it's in the budget

1840
01:11:28,080 --> 01:11:29,440
but we've already kind of

1841
01:11:29,440 --> 01:11:31,920
informally agreed to to strike a select

1842
01:11:31,920 --> 01:11:33,679
committee to discuss the scope

1843
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:35,520
and as we get through that we can report

1844
01:11:35,520 --> 01:11:37,120
back to the board with direction

1845
01:11:37,120 --> 01:11:40,080
so it really has no force and effect on

1846
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:41,440
this year's budget but

1847
01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:43,840
if we need it it's there thank you right

1848
01:11:43,840 --> 01:11:46,000
no thanks for that clarification

1849
01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,679
i don't know about you but i think i

1850
01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:49,360
need to stretch

1851
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:52,159
uh if you're willing for a 10-minute

1852
01:11:52,159 --> 01:11:53,440
recess

1853
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:55,760
um well we can get a drink or a coffee

1854
01:11:55,760 --> 01:11:58,000
or whatever we need

1855
01:11:58,000 --> 01:12:11,030
we'll do a 10 minute recess

1856
01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:32,470
how much time do i have

1857
01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:36,400
camera's live welcome back directors

1858
01:12:36,400 --> 01:12:39,760
i hope we've all coffeed up and ready to

1859
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:40,480
go again

1860
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:43,120
um with your indulgence we will return

1861
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:44,800
to r1

1862
01:12:44,800 --> 01:12:46,640
uh director nicholson had asked that

1863
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,199
that be delayed until her

1864
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:53,840
attendance and if we could miss lego

1865
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:55,920
thank you mr chair item r1 is a report

1866
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,440
from the finance division on the parks

1867
01:12:57,440 --> 01:13:00,000
and trails 2021 draft budgets referred

1868
01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:00,880
from december

1869
01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:02,960
2nd special electoral area services

1870
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,000
committee meetings

1871
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,360
and this is for the community parks

1872
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:07,040
budgets for area e g and

1873
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:09,520
h and i believe each of the directors

1874
01:13:09,520 --> 01:13:11,440
have something that they'd like to

1875
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:13,440
propose for those budgets so perhaps we

1876
01:13:13,440 --> 01:13:16,239
could address them separately

1877
01:13:16,239 --> 01:13:18,719
okay who would wish to start let's start

1878
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:20,159
with director nicholson

1879
01:13:20,159 --> 01:13:22,400
as she had asked for this to be delayed

1880
01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:24,880
tricker nicholson please

1881
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:27,679
thank you um i'd like to recommend to

1882
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:29,280
the board that draft

1883
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,320
uh 2021 budget for function 235

1884
01:13:32,320 --> 01:13:35,440
area e community parks be amended by

1885
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:36,080
number one

1886
01:13:36,080 --> 01:13:38,080
increasing the minor capital by ten

1887
01:13:38,080 --> 01:13:39,520
thousand dollars

1888
01:13:39,520 --> 01:13:41,760
increasing invasive species management

1889
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:43,520
by five thousand dollars

1890
01:13:43,520 --> 01:13:45,440
and increasing requisition by fifteen

1891
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:48,229
thousand dollars

1892
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,320
of a seconder that has been moved and

1893
01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:51,840
seconded if you wish to

1894
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,199
speak to it so uh i met with my parks

1895
01:13:55,199 --> 01:13:56,080
commission

1896
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:59,440
last thursday night and the the

1897
01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:01,360
recommendation that i'm making is based

1898
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:03,040
on their concerns

1899
01:14:03,040 --> 01:14:06,320
about a couple of projects that need to

1900
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,760
be done

1901
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:09,280
shouldn't be delayed out at glenora

1902
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,600
trail head park and

1903
01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:13,440
keeping on top of invasive species

1904
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,040
management in our parks which is

1905
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,920
becoming an increasing problem

1906
01:14:17,920 --> 01:14:20,000
great thank you very much any further

1907
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,679
discussion on that

1908
01:14:21,679 --> 01:14:24,960
director wilson thank you mr chair just

1909
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:26,159
a quick question for

1910
01:14:26,159 --> 01:14:28,640
director nicholson i i have no problem

1911
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,719
with supporting this at all

1912
01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:33,840
which i will do uh just a question does

1913
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,360
it come out of your budget it doesn't

1914
01:14:35,360 --> 01:14:38,000
impact the overall budget just as a

1915
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:42,480
point of clarification

1916
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:45,040
miss soldera that would come from the uh

1917
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:45,920
local

1918
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:48,800
community parks function would it not

1919
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,960
absolutely so the requisition

1920
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,880
uh percentage increase will actually

1921
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,159
reflect the 15

1922
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:57,199
000 increase as as a the total number

1923
01:14:57,199 --> 01:14:58,960
but only those participants in the

1924
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,880
service would pay for the service so yes

1925
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:01,679
those would come

1926
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:05,199
all from the residence of electoral aid

1927
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:07,920
and we all know director wilson that you

1928
01:15:07,920 --> 01:15:08,719
do

1929
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:12,560
support parks thank you very much

1930
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:15,600
so can i call the question on this one

1931
01:15:15,600 --> 01:15:20,239
all those in favor opposed if any

1932
01:15:20,239 --> 01:15:30,470
uh moving on to uh number two

1933
01:15:30,480 --> 01:15:32,080
was there an amendment on this one as

1934
01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:36,149
well

1935
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:39,600
i believe director smith has something

1936
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:41,520
i missed your hand director smith i

1937
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:43,360
apologize i see you there now

1938
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,390
please thank you

1939
01:15:48,400 --> 01:15:51,520
uh uh that it be recommended to the

1940
01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:53,000
board that the draft

1941
01:15:53,000 --> 01:15:57,040
2021 function 237

1942
01:15:57,040 --> 01:16:00,640
area g community parks be amended by

1943
01:16:00,640 --> 01:16:04,400
increasing minor capital by 15 000

1944
01:16:04,400 --> 01:16:06,640
increasing major capital land

1945
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:07,920
improvement by

1946
01:16:07,920 --> 01:16:11,280
21 000 increasing transfer

1947
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:14,640
from capital reserves by 21 000

1948
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,880
increased transfers from operating

1949
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:18,840
reserves by 15

1950
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:22,400
000. and i'll speak to that if i have a

1951
01:16:22,400 --> 01:16:25,110
seconder

1952
01:16:25,120 --> 01:16:28,000
been moved in second please carry on

1953
01:16:28,000 --> 01:16:29,120
thank you very much

1954
01:16:29,120 --> 01:16:32,560
i we have had some

1955
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,880
deterioration in our trails over time

1956
01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:36,719
and i really appreciate the

1957
01:16:36,719 --> 01:16:39,760
assistance by mr farquhar and his

1958
01:16:39,760 --> 01:16:41,679
department for giving me the

1959
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:45,120
costs that would assist with doing

1960
01:16:45,120 --> 01:16:48,400
a type 2 trail on the southeast forest

1961
01:16:48,400 --> 01:16:50,880
loop in centennial park one of the

1962
01:16:50,880 --> 01:16:54,480
advantages of upgrading that trail

1963
01:16:54,480 --> 01:16:57,840
will be a active transportation

1964
01:16:57,840 --> 01:17:01,120
connection to the from sort of the

1965
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:02,800
subdivision over to the

1966
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:06,239
newly opened uh solitaire uh

1967
01:17:06,239 --> 01:17:09,760
canco supermarket so that's an excellent

1968
01:17:09,760 --> 01:17:11,840
upgrade that we will be looking forward

1969
01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,920
to and

1970
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,679
with the mud that has uh transpired in

1971
01:17:17,679 --> 01:17:20,880
princess die park over the years it's

1972
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,239
now reached

1973
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:25,040
an area of approximately five to six

1974
01:17:25,040 --> 01:17:25,840
inches so

1975
01:17:25,840 --> 01:17:29,120
this will definitely work to improve

1976
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:30,080
those areas

1977
01:17:30,080 --> 01:17:32,800
and i appreciate that i'm looking

1978
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:34,400
forward to also

1979
01:17:34,400 --> 01:17:38,400
the parks commission did approve

1980
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,520
the centennial park lower uh

1981
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:45,679
ball court cracks repairs and ceiling

1982
01:17:45,679 --> 01:17:48,960
under minor capital the tennis courts

1983
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:52,159
under um minor capital to be the

1984
01:17:52,159 --> 01:17:53,120
surfaces

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01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:56,400
for cracks and mitigation work and

1986
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,159
the five thousand dollars for the

1987
01:17:58,159 --> 01:18:01,600
removal of the tennis practice court as

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01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,080
a risk assessment has been done on the

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condition

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01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,400
of those the court there at this time

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01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:11,120
i'd like to thank the cvrd staff in

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01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,199
parks and trails for assisting

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01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:15,520
to bring forward these projects at this

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01:18:15,520 --> 01:18:18,709
time thank you

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01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,880
thank you very much any further

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01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,480
discussion

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01:18:22,480 --> 01:18:24,840
i'll call the question all those in

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01:18:24,840 --> 01:18:28,000
favor opposed if any

1999
01:18:28,000 --> 01:18:29,840
i'm going to try to turn to you director

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01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:31,920
martin and see if your connectivity

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01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,000
issues are

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01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:36,400
still ongoing you had something in your

2003
01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:40,080
area as well

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01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:44,320
yes um if you can hear me uh item r1

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01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:46,480
yeah i'd like to have that um recommend

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01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,120
that to be deferred

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01:18:49,120 --> 01:18:52,840
to the generate special corporation

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01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:53,920
meeting and

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01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:57,840
the other day to

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01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:01,350
advisory commission

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01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:03,440
so i think we got the gist of that you

2012
01:19:03,440 --> 01:19:04,480
would like to defer

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01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:08,480
that to the january 25th special

2014
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:11,920
corporate services meeting do i need a

2015
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:14,480
seconder on that one

2016
01:19:14,480 --> 01:19:17,520
moved in seconded uh mr chair i

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01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,520
i just want to point out in case that no

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01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:20,960
one else knows that

2019
01:19:20,960 --> 01:19:24,640
director martin had put this in the chat

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01:19:24,640 --> 01:19:27,280
so we can remember that that's something

2021
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:29,760
to look for if someone is having

2022
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:31,760
connectivity or speaking problems that

2023
01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,080
we can always put

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01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:38,560
put it in the chat thank you yeah i did

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01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:39,199
note that

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01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:41,600
but i wanted to see if his connectivity

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01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:42,719
had

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01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:44,719
resolved itself it doesn't seem to but i

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01:19:44,719 --> 01:19:47,040
think we've got the gist of it director

2030
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,679
uh martman moved second ready for the

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01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:51,199
question

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01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:55,440
oh is that a question director morrison

2033
01:19:55,440 --> 01:20:00,000
okay all in favor sorry opposed if any

2034
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:02,800
thank you very much i believe that

2035
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,990
concludes our one

2036
01:20:06,000 --> 01:20:08,880
thank you mr chair on to item r6 which

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01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,480
is a verbal report from the finance

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01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:12,480
division on the budget public engagement

2039
01:20:12,480 --> 01:20:16,830
and that is for information

2040
01:20:16,840 --> 01:20:20,239
okay miss older would you like to uh

2041
01:20:20,239 --> 01:20:23,360
speak to this thank you very much

2042
01:20:23,360 --> 01:20:26,639
uh as most of you are aware we held four

2043
01:20:26,639 --> 01:20:27,440
virtual

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01:20:27,440 --> 01:20:30,159
public meetings on the budget and i

2045
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:32,000
really appreciate everyone's attendance

2046
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,239
at those uh it was nice to see so many

2047
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:35,520
people from the

2048
01:20:35,520 --> 01:20:38,480
community from the board showing up and

2049
01:20:38,480 --> 01:20:39,120
uh

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01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:41,679
as i believe was alluded to previously

2051
01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:42,480
um we

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01:20:42,480 --> 01:20:44,239
did not have great turnout but we did

2053
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:46,000
have people show up at every single

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01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:47,840
one so that was better at least than

2055
01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,520
when we did them in person where we had

2056
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,520
two with no participants

2057
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:55,040
um so we did have a total of 16 people

2058
01:20:55,040 --> 01:20:57,760
participate in those virtual budget

2059
01:20:57,760 --> 01:20:59,600
public meetings we had some good

2060
01:20:59,600 --> 01:21:00,000
question

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01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:01,840
and discussion at our very first meeting

2062
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,199
which um

2063
01:21:03,199 --> 01:21:05,760
made me all excited and then limited uh

2064
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,679
discussion at the other meetings but

2065
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:10,800
as i say that uh was there the

2066
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,800
meetings were all recorded and my

2067
01:21:12,800 --> 01:21:14,400
understanding from communications is

2068
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:16,159
that they will be posted to our website

2069
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:18,960
for people to access whenever they

2070
01:21:18,960 --> 01:21:22,000
feel like it in the future and i will be

2071
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:24,560
following up with a written report

2072
01:21:24,560 --> 01:21:27,360
to the committee for the at the january

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01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:28,159
25th

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01:21:28,159 --> 01:21:30,080
meeting which will include feedback from

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01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:31,760
our play speak

2076
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,080
um item and people are welcome to go on

2077
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,600
and look at that feedback now

2078
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:38,639
we have had 59 surveys filled out and 47

2079
01:21:38,639 --> 01:21:39,840
discussion

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01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,679
threads and so i will include a formal

2081
01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:44,719
written report with

2082
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:47,040
any feedback from the public meetings as

2083
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,480
well as from the play speak

2084
01:21:48,480 --> 01:21:50,719
at the january 25th meeting but just

2085
01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:52,080
wanted to let you know

2086
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:53,679
what happened at the virtual budget

2087
01:21:53,679 --> 01:21:56,639
public meetings which ended last night

2088
01:21:56,639 --> 01:21:59,840
great i'd like to just thank you

2089
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:02,320
and staff who were involved in that

2090
01:22:02,320 --> 01:22:04,400
process i know it's a difficult time to

2091
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:05,440
try to get

2092
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:07,280
information out to the public and we

2093
01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:09,120
tried our best virtually

2094
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:10,639
i do have a speakers list i have

2095
01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:12,159
director stone

2096
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:15,920
wilson and yanni dinardo

2097
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:17,760
i just just a little bit of feedback

2098
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:18,960
from our community that

2099
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,800
it was scheduled on the same night and

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01:22:20,800 --> 01:22:22,239
time as our

2101
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:24,560
committee of the whole meeting so it was

2102
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,239
difficult for ladies with folks to

2103
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:27,840
participate in both and i know there's

2104
01:22:27,840 --> 01:22:29,520
some interest with our council and they

2105
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,120
were unable to participate

2106
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:33,120
due to performing their council duties

2107
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:34,719
or to at least attend

2108
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:37,520
so can you just when those are posted it

2109
01:22:37,520 --> 01:22:38,639
would be appreciated

2110
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:41,520
if we could get uh an email just to let

2111
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,440
us know when they're up and then we can

2112
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:45,199
share those with our community members

2113
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,520
thank you

2114
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,440
great thank you very much director

2115
01:22:49,440 --> 01:22:50,800
wilson

2116
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:52,880
uh thank you mr chair just a word of

2117
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:54,159
congratulations to

2118
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:57,280
miss aldera very uh very concise uh

2119
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,280
presentation uh very professional

2120
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,199
and very clear so thank you very much

2121
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:04,719
for that uh talitha great job

2122
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:06,159
would that mean that your area had the

2123
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:08,239
most participation director wilson

2124
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:11,440
we did actually yeah yeah

2125
01:23:11,440 --> 01:23:13,520
thank you i have director janie dinardo

2126
01:23:13,520 --> 01:23:14,960
then director marsh

2127
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,639
thank you i'd just like to echo my

2128
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,480
fellow directors and um

2129
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:21,600
thank also um mr schumacher that did a

2130
01:23:21,600 --> 01:23:23,440
great job as a host

2131
01:23:23,440 --> 01:23:27,280
and um also miss saldera and also the

2132
01:23:27,280 --> 01:23:29,440
people that did actually get on and

2133
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:31,360
speak were quite impressed

2134
01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:34,800
and they were actually really surprised

2135
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:36,880
that each and every one of them got to

2136
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:38,400
you know be spoken to

2137
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:40,880
and you know it worked out that way

2138
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:42,719
really well because we had small groups

2139
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:44,800
we actually spoke to each person and

2140
01:23:44,800 --> 01:23:48,000
asked with if they had questions and

2141
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,400
i think that was very successful so i'd

2142
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:51,600
like to thank um

2143
01:23:51,600 --> 01:23:53,440
the staff and of course everyone who

2144
01:23:53,440 --> 01:23:55,840
attended as well

2145
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:57,600
thank you very much director marsh and

2146
01:23:57,600 --> 01:24:00,950
then director smith

2147
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,199
yes thank you mr chair just further to

2148
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:05,360
what chair stone said um

2149
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:08,639
there was also some conflict with um

2150
01:24:08,639 --> 01:24:10,320
some north couch and things and i'm just

2151
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:12,320
wondering if the

2152
01:24:12,320 --> 01:24:15,600
corporate services legislative staff can

2153
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:16,159
kind of

2154
01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:19,120
communicate with everyone at these busy

2155
01:24:19,120 --> 01:24:20,000
times so that

2156
01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:23,920
um those of us who are on the board

2157
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,120
can come to the board things um i don't

2158
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,560
know if that's too much to ask but it's

2159
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:32,000
just a suggestion thank you

2160
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,600
i think a number of us did have

2161
01:24:33,600 --> 01:24:35,280
conflicts with our

2162
01:24:35,280 --> 01:24:37,679
council and municipal obligations as

2163
01:24:37,679 --> 01:24:38,639
well

2164
01:24:38,639 --> 01:24:41,679
i couldn't attend the lady smith one for

2165
01:24:41,679 --> 01:24:44,719
lake couch and council obligations but

2166
01:24:44,719 --> 01:24:48,000
i tried to attend as many as i could and

2167
01:24:48,000 --> 01:24:50,159
thankfully got to attend a few of them

2168
01:24:50,159 --> 01:24:55,910
director smith you're next

2169
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:58,080
thank you i'd like to thank the staff

2170
01:24:58,080 --> 01:24:59,679
for arranging having

2171
01:24:59,679 --> 01:25:02,080
four different meetings at four

2172
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,560
different times that gave an opportunity

2173
01:25:04,560 --> 01:25:07,520
for people if they were unable to attend

2174
01:25:07,520 --> 01:25:09,360
the one that was for their area they

2175
01:25:09,360 --> 01:25:12,000
also had an opportunity to still attend

2176
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,520
a meeting it was definitely

2177
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:17,760
the presentations are really delightful

2178
01:25:17,760 --> 01:25:19,440
and i really would like to thank the

2179
01:25:19,440 --> 01:25:20,000
staff

2180
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:23,600
and mr schumacher for hosting it

2181
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:25,920
it's a little hard to look at some of

2182
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:27,920
the numbers of the attendees and

2183
01:25:27,920 --> 01:25:30,480
hoping the number goes up but i think

2184
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:32,639
that having them posted to the website

2185
01:25:32,639 --> 01:25:33,600
will definitely

2186
01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:36,159
improve the opportunity for our

2187
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:38,480
communities to actually

2188
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:40,639
look at them and and take their time

2189
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:42,960
going through those presentations as a

2190
01:25:42,960 --> 01:25:43,760
video

2191
01:25:43,760 --> 01:25:45,679
thank you very much for all the work

2192
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:47,679
that an effort that went into all those

2193
01:25:47,679 --> 01:25:49,440
four meetings

2194
01:25:49,440 --> 01:25:53,440
thank you very much uh director staples

2195
01:25:53,440 --> 01:25:55,520
yeah just to echo that thanks to safa

2196
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:57,280
and the meetings were facilitated

2197
01:25:57,280 --> 01:26:00,480
um extremely well and and i think that

2198
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,000
of of the sort of things that we're

2199
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:03,920
learning through the types of format

2200
01:26:03,920 --> 01:26:05,679
that we're stuck with right now

2201
01:26:05,679 --> 01:26:08,639
i feel that um exploring that type of

2202
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:11,120
format for delivery of budget meetings

2203
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:11,840
would be

2204
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,520
something that we should consider in the

2205
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:16,080
future because i think that

2206
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,080
while there weren't a lot of attendees i

2207
01:26:18,080 --> 01:26:19,199
think it is

2208
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:21,440
at least you know rather than having

2209
01:26:21,440 --> 01:26:23,440
them all in person to have some online i

2210
01:26:23,440 --> 01:26:24,800
think would be something that we should

2211
01:26:24,800 --> 01:26:25,760
um

2212
01:26:25,760 --> 01:26:27,440
just carry forward i think that that

2213
01:26:27,440 --> 01:26:28,880
helps some people

2214
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:31,920
um with their ability to attend

2215
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,280
thank you great thank you very much

2216
01:26:35,280 --> 01:26:38,960
anyone further again miss soldera thanks

2217
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:39,840
to you

2218
01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:42,159
and every other staff member that was

2219
01:26:42,159 --> 01:26:44,000
involved in those presentations

2220
01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:46,560
and i encourage people to uh once the

2221
01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:48,480
videos are up go up and see what the

2222
01:26:48,480 --> 01:26:49,520
impacts

2223
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:51,440
of these budget discussions will be on

2224
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:54,950
your particular area

2225
01:26:54,960 --> 01:26:59,120
moving on miss lego thank you mr chair i

2226
01:26:59,120 --> 01:27:01,040
guess we're on to question period

2227
01:27:01,040 --> 01:27:03,600
and checking my email i see no

2228
01:27:03,600 --> 01:27:04,639
submissions

2229
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:06,400
so we would be looking for a motion to

2230
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,159
close the meeting to the public

2231
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:10,080
in accordance with the community charter

2232
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,960
section 91c

2233
01:27:12,960 --> 01:27:15,760
okay moved and seconded all those in

2234
01:27:15,760 --> 01:27:17,360
favor

2235
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:21,760
opposed if any that carries

2236
01:27:21,760 --> 01:27:25,120
now we will leave this meeting and go to

2237
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:27,120
the separate closed i believe

2238
01:27:27,120 --> 01:27:28,560
that's correct we'll end this meeting

2239
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:31,440
and start a separate meeting