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just just let them know that we're

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patrick and

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to be in person so we'll start in about

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seven eight minutes

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hi

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everybody chad i'm on i'm in jack's

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office on her line

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it looks like the video is not

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sustainable with this connection so

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sorry about that

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hello

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so

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i'm called to order for tonight monday

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august 16th 2021.

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miss michael can you please complete the

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roll call

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for

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here

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president

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your audio is not working properly we

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have one resolution for a roll call this

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evening if the clerk can please read

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item number one

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annual action plan budget and

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authorizing the mayor to enter the

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contract for the better community

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neighborhoods incorporated to provide

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256 000 of home funds for the elmar

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gardens project

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i need i need a motion to put this on

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the floor

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so i can

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i any discussion

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go ahead please

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so um i'm glad you're here tonight to be

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able to move forward

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and i also want to

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just

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to thank i'm going to say chad kilmore

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specifically

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and making sure that the community voice

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was included in what was being

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considered here and making sure there

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was also an understanding of the benefit

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of doing this particular project was

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that it would not just be for this

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project but to benefit a larger part of

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this particular neighborhood and also

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going forward how um the leverage will

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fund that and leverage or do other

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projects within the city and

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specifically um my history was the nrsa

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area so um i just want to say thank you

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to vcni and also the um

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chair for

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chad gilbert and for mr rutabara as well

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and other council members that we were

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able to work through this to come to

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agreement to

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understand the concerns that we're being

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uh that were being brought forward and

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also to be awarded those concerns that

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so that together um as a community

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thank you any other discussion

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that's michael please complete the roll

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call

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the item is passed

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five to nil

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we have a motion to adjourn

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second

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all in favor we are adjourned

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and we'll move into our regular city

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council meeting from monday august the

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16th and we'll go straight into health

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and recreation miss

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um patrick asked mr daley to come this

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evening to give us an update on how the

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golf course has been going for the

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summer um

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good evening everybody it's nice to see

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all of you

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i decided to i think would be a good

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idea to bring our core superintendent

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mike sesney down with us

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if you haven't met him

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this is an opportunity for you to meet

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i give you updates on the course often

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to be quite honest with you mike is

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the main reason why that golf course is

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where it is

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his countless efforts getting that

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course in the condition that it is in

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you know he deserves to be recognized

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he has a few things that he wanted to

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speak of in addition to what i have

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and i thought it would be of interest to

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you to hear what he has to say

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so moving forward you know the state of

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the golf industry

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uh is very healthy it's incredible what

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the pandemic has done for the golf

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industry because there was talk for a

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long period of time that you know

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numbers were down nationally and so

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but i can tell you that the national

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golf foundation which creates all

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statistical categories for players in

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that's men women juniors and so forth

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those numbers are considerably up so for

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overall play was up two percent

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which is the biggest net increase in 17

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and the mayor and i often talk about

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this that's the tiger woods effect when

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he came into the scene

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golf boomed and then it kind of lulled

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now it came up again

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people asked why the increase well last

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year golf was one of the few things that

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you could actually do outside golfers

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practice you know social distancing

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aspects

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and we were able to create a nice safe

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haven for golfers when they came to our

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facility and it showed by the numbers

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that we were able to create last year

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another impressive statistical category

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increase was in the women's end of

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things

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there's a 20 20 percent increase in

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overall women's statistics

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probably the largest of all of them when

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you look at juniors saw 3.1 million golfers in 2020

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30 percent of those were girls

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as compared to 15 percent in the year

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and over 25 percent of the juniors that

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are playing are minority base as opposed

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to six percent in 2000 so big jumps and

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categories all across and that's

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especially important because that's the

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future of the game

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one out of every three americans either

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played golf or watched the sport or read

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about it in 2020 that's a considerable

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amount

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so when you look at all those numbers it

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shows that the golf industry as a whole

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is healthy our revenues this year are up

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13.25 up from 2020.

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last year we missed

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i would say what like a good month and a

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of revenue

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opportunity

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we were open then we were closed and

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then when we reopened there was a lot of

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you know unknowns

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could you ride in carts and when we

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finally did you can only want to run

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rider per person so you're losing out of

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revenue streams all over the place

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you know in hindsight in 2020 from

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looking back in 2020 yeah we probably

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could have done all those things but at

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the time we didn't know that

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so obviously we took all the necessary

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safety precautions

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and so this year we're seeing our

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revenues increase more than that and

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last year we did almost 1.1 million

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dollars in total net revenue so we're up

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considerably that this year which is

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going to help moving forward as we

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continue to meet our uh expensive

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categories and our revenue streams

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and of course now the mask mandate is in

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effect after we received notice last

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uh we incorporated the mass growth last

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monday so now we've started

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and it has been pretty well received i

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mean there's going to be the usual

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complaints of players but for the most

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part everybody has been compliant

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and things are working well on that end

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do you have any questions for me i guess

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is the next step

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in terms of everything that i have just

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so um how are the tournaments um are you

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back on track with the tournaments yes we are yeah um we've had we just

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actually just had our schenectady high

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school football team fundraiser okay

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they had their largest group ever they

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had 120 players pass through which is a

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very large number

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uh we have run our schenectady classics

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for the championships for both the men

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the women and the senior divisions those

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all saw big increases in numbers

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and then september is going to be a big

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month for tournaments as well

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many of the events that were canceled

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last year are now back on the schedule

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tournaments are definitely uh high on

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the list all right good thank you

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um yes i was wondering are you doing

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tournaments

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we ran a children's camp in uh

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it was end of june early july we did two

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weeks yep and then we actually do a we host an event that's done to the

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northeastern new york pga

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golf tour

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and that's kind of an annual thing that

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we do every year they have a different

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venue that they play each week

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and i can't remember the exact day it

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was in july

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and it was one of the regular stops when

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they come every year and that was over

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100 children

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yeah

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big numbers it was very impressive

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thank you

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so can you tell us a little bit about

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the actual facilities and of course

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anything that needs means work

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yeah

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so as i i've mentioned in the past there

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obviously are some capital improvements

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that we need to address coming soon

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which is another reason why i brought mr

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sesney with me

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some of the carp paths are going to be

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need to be addressed one of the issues

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that we face when it rains considerably

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and we've gotten a lot of those rain

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days

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is that the course gets so saturated

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that we aren't allowed to allow

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golf carts on the ground

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they can do considerable damage so we're

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rewarded to walking only and when you do

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that

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not only do you miss the cart revenue

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but you do miss out on green speed

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revenue as well so it's kind of a double

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and so

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we were

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looking forward to do more of a routine

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maintenance on the cart pads but more of

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preventative maintenance down the road

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where we can have a continuous car path

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around the entire golf course

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and that way we can police the players

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better whether they just cart path only

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many facilities implore that uh

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that type of uh

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i think we're working for they they

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employ that practice okay so let's say

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saratoga national they get a rainstorm

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goes through their car path only they

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have a continuous card path that goes

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all the way around the course they can

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still let their cards go on the facility

294
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and players can still play the golf

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course whereas ours

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they're off we lose the revenue stream

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and when that also happens league play

298
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doesn't go out so it's kind of a it's

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kind of a big hit when we have to

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reschedule

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league plays miss out on their week and

302
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then we have to reschedule them and just

303
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keep pushing them back

304
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,760
so yeah it can be a nuisance but at the

305
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same time it can be fixed and we do have

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a lot of already in place paved car path

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there

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and i want to say it's over nine holes

309
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that's in place now some of them need to

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be addressed but that would be something

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that'd be worth the efforts to look into

312
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saving us money down the road

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um and then of course the big ticket

314
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item would be a new irrigation system

315
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it's aging

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and uh

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mike i'll let you kind of

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take that direction if you'd like

319
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good evening everyone

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mike says i'm actually the president of

321
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northeast turf and my company actually

322
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has the maintenance contract for the

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golf course but i'm actually the acting

324
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superintendent to the golf course

325
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and

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i wrote down some notes for the

327
00:29:39,840 --> 00:29:42,399
irrigation system of

328
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our presence system is that okay

329
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our present irrigation system is between

330
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40 and 45 years old

331
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the average lifespan for an irrigation

332
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system is roughly 20 to 25 years old so

333
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,000
it's yeah it's definitely uh it's time

334
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to replace it

335
00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:06,080
it's a fully manual irrigation system

336
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that has to be turned on manually by by

337
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the workers

338
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an automatic system has electric

339
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solenoids that are activated by a low

340
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voltage

341
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current that is sent from a central

342
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computer

343
00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:20,240
that's what we're trying for is a fully

344
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automatic irrigation system and our pump

345
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house is actually

346
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,520
needs to be replaced too it's a 400

347
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,760
gallon per minute pump station

348
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:31,679
and our new pump station that we had

349
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:34,320
designed would be between 1000 and 1200

350
00:30:34,320 --> 00:30:35,760
gallons per minute

351
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this would increase the capacity by two

352
00:30:37,679 --> 00:30:39,360
to three times

353
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and the new pumps

354
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would be a variable frequency drive

355
00:30:43,679 --> 00:30:45,919
which are more electrically efficient

356
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:48,840
than the present pumps that we

357
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,640
have with a present system annual system

358
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,640
it takes approximately 18 hours to water

359
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:56,559
the entire golf course the new

360
00:30:56,559 --> 00:30:58,320
irrigation system would accomplish this

361
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:04,230
in six to eight hours

362
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,480
the new system there will be

363
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,240
improved sprinkler head coverage and

364
00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,000
more flexibility with water again

365
00:31:10,000 --> 00:31:11,760
fertilizers and other products that need

366
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,360
to be watered in

367
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,760
and there'll also be enhanced

368
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:17,919
turf quality and improved playing

369
00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:20,960
conditions for the new automatic system

370
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,070
and i guess the

371
00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:28,630
final part is the cost our last

372
00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:31,679
estimate we had was between 2.5 and 3

373
00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:34,480
million for a new irrigation system

374
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,039
and 10 years ago we had actually an

375
00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,519
estimate of 1.5 million so

376
00:31:39,519 --> 00:31:41,360
i guess the longer we wait the more

377
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,430
expensive it's going to be

378
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,840
and also like actually

379
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,080
i just wanted to show everybody

380
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a fairway coupler that that we were

381
00:31:52,159 --> 00:31:56,389
using in the fairways

382
00:31:56,399 --> 00:31:58,559
so this coupler right here will be

383
00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,120
plugged into a valve in the fairway

384
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,000
there's actually 138 of these airways so

385
00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:04,960
we can only

386
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:06,399
pass the pump capacitor we have now

387
00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:09,200
we've only got seven of these at a time

388
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,679
and uh how many i'm sorry i can only run

389
00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:21,750
seven at a time

390
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:23,120
these are actually in the in the

391
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:24,799
fairways mounted

392
00:32:24,799 --> 00:32:28,240
in the ground so this would open up plug

393
00:32:28,240 --> 00:32:30,320
that in like that and turn it so each

394
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:31,840
day a guy has to go out in the morning

395
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:33,840
and turn this coupler on

396
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:35,279
and like i said we run up let them run

397
00:32:35,279 --> 00:32:37,279
for half an hour so there's seven they

398
00:32:37,279 --> 00:32:39,039
can run at a time so they'll pull those

399
00:32:39,039 --> 00:32:41,279
seven out go to the next seven you say

400
00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:44,240
there's 138 of these so it's all for

401
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,159
it's labor intensive just trying to

402
00:32:46,159 --> 00:32:49,509
water fairways

403
00:32:49,519 --> 00:32:54,149
the new fairway head is

404
00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:55,840
much more efficient it has electric

405
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,000
solenoids so i said this would be wired

406
00:32:58,000 --> 00:33:00,399
to a low voltage system and this would

407
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:02,000
this head would

408
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,000
automatically come on at night there

409
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,120
would be an

410
00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:06,799
interruption during the day as far as

411
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:08,399
ordering the golf course

412
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:09,919
so it's much more efficient it would

413
00:33:09,919 --> 00:33:13,679
have better coverage coverage than the older style sprinkler the older

414
00:33:13,679 --> 00:33:16,720
style sprinkler was actually uh

415
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,760
manufactured implemented in 1930s and

416
00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:21,600
that was actually phased out in the late

417
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,240
60s early 70s so i don't i don't even

418
00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:25,519
know of any other gal of course in the

419
00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:27,279
area that she uses them

420
00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:30,799
but everybody has an automatic system

421
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:41,029
that i know in the area

422
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:42,399
i guess it's time but i know it's an

423
00:33:42,399 --> 00:33:45,919
expensive a big expensive place but

424
00:33:45,919 --> 00:33:47,360
likes that the price keeps going up

425
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,279
every year plus materials are going up

426
00:33:49,279 --> 00:33:54,559
so how many of those do you need

427
00:33:54,559 --> 00:33:56,000
um

428
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,080
these i think they i think the new

429
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,279
system is going to have between a

430
00:33:59,279 --> 00:34:01,679
thousand and twelve hundred

431
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:04,240
138 is just just for the fairways so we

432
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,080
have four to five sprinklers on each

433
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,039
green

434
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:10,079
in each green complex and ht complex

435
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:12,480
so there's probably three three or four

436
00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,240
hundred on the course now but

437
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:16,639
i said it's not a uh the coverage is

438
00:34:16,639 --> 00:34:18,800
very poor now with this whole system

439
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,440
this new system would be much more

440
00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:22,560
efficient

441
00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,909
and actually had

442
00:34:27,919 --> 00:34:30,159
she had a

443
00:34:30,159 --> 00:34:33,200
evaluation of the irrigation system done

444
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,679
in 2010 it was actually by a certified

445
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:38,159
irrigation designer he's over in boston

446
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:40,000
it's brian van casey

447
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,359
and

448
00:34:41,359 --> 00:34:43,839
it's maybe a 15-page report but he

449
00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:45,280
pretty much just

450
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:46,960
spelled out all the issues with this

451
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,040
system and he basically said it's time

452
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:52,000
for his system to

453
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,320
2010

454
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:55,280
so

455
00:34:55,280 --> 00:35:01,270
we'll have to review that

456
00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:02,640
but then you know yeah new systems will

457
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:03,760
be

458
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,880
much more evenly water distribution

459
00:35:06,880 --> 00:35:09,200
and he can actually that the apps that

460
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:10,240
you can get on your phone you can

461
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:11,520
actually program away from your cell

462
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:12,880
phone

463
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:14,400
which would be incredible

464
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:16,240
it's just technology now is so much

465
00:35:16,240 --> 00:35:17,760
better yeah i mean things have gotten

466
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:20,400
more expensive but the technology is

467
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:24,950
far superior

468
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:26,480
so by putting in the new irrigation

469
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,440
system without help with the golf cart

470
00:35:29,440 --> 00:35:31,119
or that is something totally different

471
00:35:31,119 --> 00:35:33,280
that's totally different yeah and today

472
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:36,640
yes do you have a price tag on it

473
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:42,790
no on the golf cart pads now

474
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:44,560
yeah and you know we're not even looking

475
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:45,920
to do

476
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,000
blacktop card pads we could do you know

477
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,040
gravel

478
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:50,880
carpets just something to have a

479
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:52,800
continuous pet yeah the blacktop would

480
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,000
look nice

481
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:54,800
but

482
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,240
you know millings

483
00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,480
would would suffice just a continuous

484
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:00,400
path all the way around the golf course

485
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,079
something that would

486
00:36:02,079 --> 00:36:03,839
they would be forced to stay there

487
00:36:03,839 --> 00:36:06,960
rather than driving off so again

488
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:08,640
you know how players are not everybody

489
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:10,240
follows the rules

490
00:36:10,240 --> 00:36:12,160
but

491
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:13,440
a little bit easier it's easier to do

492
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:15,440
that if you see something off the path

493
00:36:15,440 --> 00:36:17,920
and with the gps system on top of that

494
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:20,240
you can program it so the cards when

495
00:36:20,240 --> 00:36:21,680
they go off the path it notifies the

496
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,839
player to get back on the path

497
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:26,079
if it's not if i mean if it's not

498
00:36:26,079 --> 00:36:28,000
difficult can you just share an

499
00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:30,400
estimated cost

500
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
for a new car path yeah

501
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:34,680
well as mike said what do we think about

502
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:40,150
500 yeah

503
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:41,520
i'm not sure if that's something that we

504
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:42,880
could do

505
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,880
in-house or we would have to branch that

506
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,520
and outsource it but

507
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,069
okay

508
00:36:50,079 --> 00:36:54,069
any other questions

509
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:56,240
i appreciate you both coming i mean it's

510
00:36:56,240 --> 00:36:58,240
obviously i'm not a golfer but

511
00:36:58,240 --> 00:37:00,400
everywhere i go people talk about our

512
00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:02,000
golf course being

513
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:04,560
equal to if not better than the private

514
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,720
country club golf courses around and

515
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:08,720
obviously it's a

516
00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,320
great revenue stream

517
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,920
for the city of cement and so i

518
00:37:11,920 --> 00:37:15,910
appreciate it

519
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:18,079
to keep it being such a gem for us

520
00:37:18,079 --> 00:37:20,400
appreciate it yeah thank you

521
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:22,480
pleasure to work there that's for sure

522
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,839
thank you for all you're doing here you

523
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:32,480
and your staff thank you very much all right thank you have a good night

524
00:37:32,490 --> 00:37:46,630
[Music]

525
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:48,280
so the first item

526
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,520
is reselling requests like shop for

527
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:54,640
parks like 10 20 mcconnell street

528
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,560
joining us

529
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,200
good evening everyone um this request is

530
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,480
in regard to the reasonable request for

531
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,480
a parcel that's part of the store checks

532
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:05,920
redevelopment

533
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,880
it's from a c2 right from an r1 single

534
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:11,119
family residential to c2 mixed-use

535
00:38:11,119 --> 00:38:13,440
commercial um the city council referred

536
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,280
this to the planning commission for

537
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,119
recommendation which will take place at

538
00:38:17,119 --> 00:38:19,680
their next meeting on august 18th

539
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,359
the recommendation tonight is for the

540
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:22,880
city council to call for a public

541
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:23,839
hearing

542
00:38:23,839 --> 00:38:25,520
regarding this request to change the

543
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:26,880
zoning

544
00:38:26,880 --> 00:38:28,800
any questions

545
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:37,270
um

546
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:39,200
accepting funding for a trade inventory

547
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:43,510
and community forest management plan

548
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:45,920
the city of schenectady was awarded an

549
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,839
urban forestry grant from the department

550
00:38:47,839 --> 00:38:50,079
of environmental conservation this is to

551
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:52,000
do a city-wide tree inventory and

552
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,800
community forest management plan um

553
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:56,880
so we are just asking for the acceptance

554
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:58,800
of these funds and for the mayor to

555
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:02,079
enter any necessary agreements to carry

556
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:02,960
out

557
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,590
the purposes of the grant

558
00:39:05,590 --> 00:39:08,160
[Music]

559
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,230
sixty one thousand two hundred dollars

560
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:31,000
any questions

561
00:39:31,010 --> 00:39:45,670
[Music]

562
00:39:45,680 --> 00:39:54,829
okay mr

563
00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:57,440
wallace little bit difficulty uh

564
00:39:57,440 --> 00:40:00,800
hearings guys at the table so uh

565
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,720
so this is the

566
00:40:02,720 --> 00:40:04,960
annual gaming program a little later

567
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,640
than normal

568
00:40:06,640 --> 00:40:09,119
to various amount of

569
00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:09,839
difference reasons

570
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:11,280
year that we're trying to call out in

571
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,680
our backup is that this is for

572
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:15,520
chips only

573
00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,920
as you are probably aware previous

574
00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:20,079
program we have three funding sources we

575
00:40:20,079 --> 00:40:22,839
have chips we have local we have

576
00:40:22,839 --> 00:40:25,359
cdbg um due to

577
00:40:25,359 --> 00:40:27,520
surplus assist money do not have a

578
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,000
program to focus we decide to do a chips

579
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,119
program uh i'm working on a cbd program

580
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:35,200
and we will not have a local program as

581
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,520
we didn't really bond a ton of money

582
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,280
because we had it so we went forward

583
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,319
with a

584
00:40:40,319 --> 00:40:41,520
more visited

585
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,079
approach so this is the chips program

586
00:40:44,079 --> 00:40:46,480
this is the bigger program roughly three

587
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:48,480
million dollar program

588
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:50,839
and it's going to start

589
00:40:50,839 --> 00:40:53,839
after wednesday and we are going to run

590
00:40:53,839 --> 00:40:56,640
it probably right through next year into

591
00:40:56,640 --> 00:40:57,760
june

592
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,560
um

593
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,640
contractors like that because it gives

594
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,440
them some some work to go with

595
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:10,380
some of our work we're hoping to follow

596
00:41:10,390 --> 00:41:17,910
[Music]

597
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:18,839
any

598
00:41:18,839 --> 00:41:20,720
questions

599
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:22,319
so is this going to run through the

600
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:24,000
winter are they paving in the winter now

601
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:26,079
or is it just the money's going no

602
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,800
we will have a shutdown immediately

603
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:31,520
right around november 15th

604
00:41:31,520 --> 00:41:44,309
and then we'll pick them back up in

605
00:41:44,319 --> 00:42:01,190
thank you

606
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:02,960
call the order finance committee the

607
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,520
first item on the agenda is to discuss

608
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,839
the parka public meetings

609
00:42:07,839 --> 00:42:10,640
i'll let you support you go first

610
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:11,599
thank you

611
00:42:11,599 --> 00:42:14,880
so i asked mr ferrari if he would today

612
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,359
come may explain um the amount of money

613
00:42:17,359 --> 00:42:19,599
that we're getting how much we

614
00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,359
spent so far

615
00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:23,680
what can and cannot see

616
00:42:23,680 --> 00:42:26,160
this cannot be used for and

617
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:27,359
so

618
00:42:27,359 --> 00:42:28,560
sir

619
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,079
mr

620
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:31,599
thank you

621
00:42:31,599 --> 00:42:34,480
council president mr porterfield mayor

622
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:35,359
uh

623
00:42:35,359 --> 00:42:37,040
mr portfield uh

624
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,680
requested a few questions here and i got

625
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:43,040
some answers for him well a total amount

626
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:44,560
of arpa funds that the city's going to

627
00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:47,680
receive over two years it amounts to 52

628
00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,480
million 971 dollars

629
00:42:50,480 --> 00:42:53,510
798.

630
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:56,400
that we were receiving two rounds of 26

631
00:42:56,400 --> 00:43:01,119
million 485 at 899

632
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,480
and of this first uh round we received

633
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:08,319
the june 1st of 2021 of that 26 million

634
00:43:08,319 --> 00:43:11,030
8 million

635
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:11,520
six 92

636
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,400
eighty dollars has been designated as a

637
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,640
loss of revenue which i have sent to you

638
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,319
guys previously

639
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:20,560
uh we're expecting our second round of

640
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:25,119
26 million and and change uh in june of

641
00:43:25,119 --> 00:43:27,119
2022.

642
00:43:27,119 --> 00:43:29,040
um so far

643
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,720
the city uh the city council has

644
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:33,599
allocated 233 thousand dollars

645
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:37,119
um 145 000 was to the boys and girls

646
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:39,520
club uh to keep these uh youths

647
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,400
participating engaged in summer programs

648
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:43,359
um

649
00:43:43,359 --> 00:43:46,400
38 thousands to the uh schenectady fire

650
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,280
tomorrow department 30 000 of that 38

651
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,440
was for medication due to the changes in

652
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:52,839
the covenant 19

653
00:43:52,839 --> 00:43:56,319
protocols and 8 000 was for the covet

654
00:43:56,319 --> 00:43:58,480
cleaning of the trucks the offices and

655
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:59,680
buildings

656
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:00,640
the last

657
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:02,880
amount of 50 000 works to the

658
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,359
schenectady police depart department and

659
00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:06,839
that is for the

660
00:44:06,839 --> 00:44:10,079
protocol excuse me for the

661
00:44:10,079 --> 00:44:12,800
protocol for the uh retired uh police

662
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,280
officers downstairs uh coming in there

663
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,920
today for covid and uh

664
00:44:17,920 --> 00:44:20,640
checking so that's that's all we have

665
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,119
allocated so far

666
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:24,960
the third question is the timeline for

667
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,920
allocating the funds well the timelines

668
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,640
uh for allocating funds are eligible

669
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,000
costs from march 3rd 2021

670
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:34,960
through

671
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,000
december 31st 2024

672
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,400
we are out obligated uh

673
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,880
all our obligated funds have to be spent

674
00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:46,240
by uh 12 31 2026

675
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,400
and whatever is left over we don't spend

676
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:50,240
after that date we do have to send back

677
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:53,200
to the fender government

678
00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,079
okay

679
00:44:54,079 --> 00:44:56,400
what what do we what can we spend the

680
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,319
money on is the heart is one of the most

681
00:44:58,319 --> 00:44:59,920
difficult parts

682
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,800
i get one thing i can tell you here

683
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,640
is that

684
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,800
what we cannot

685
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:07,920
pay

686
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,000
what one things that we cannot pay for

687
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:11,520
is debt service

688
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,160
we cannot pay for pension plans and we

689
00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:16,640
cannot directly or indirectly offset a

690
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,920
reduction in uh net tax revenue so we

691
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:20,960
can't

692
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:23,920
lower taxes which is i don't know

693
00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:24,800
uh

694
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,480
but some of the things that uh that

695
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:28,720
we're allowed to uh cost for but these

696
00:45:28,720 --> 00:45:30,720
are big

697
00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:32,800
uh sections where you know you can do

698
00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,240
things in between like for instance

699
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:36,160
public health you know you've got you

700
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:36,880
know

701
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,960
you can do covet testing you can pay for

702
00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:40,000
uh

703
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:41,440
covid uh

704
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,359
vaccinations there's different different

705
00:45:43,359 --> 00:45:46,480
things for uh public health uh

706
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,359
also negative income uh impacts you know

707
00:45:49,359 --> 00:45:50,800
for instance uh you know one of the

708
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:52,480
things that we were discussing is the

709
00:45:52,480 --> 00:46:00,880
higher back all the the people that we did not employ in 20 19 and 2020 to hire them back to uh

710
00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,000
get them back that's part of the

711
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:04,560
negative impacts uh services to the you

712
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,040
know uh community to uh impacted

713
00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:08,800
communities they're just

714
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:11,760
disproportionate this disproportionately

715
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,720
for funding so you know cdbg area

716
00:46:14,720 --> 00:46:16,400
neighborhoods you know

717
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:18,480
by census track whatever you know things

718
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:19,839
you can do in those neighborhoods you

719
00:46:19,839 --> 00:46:22,319
can spend money on and of course the big

720
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,319
three infrastructures water sewer

721
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:27,200
broadband but it's kind of where it's

722
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,760
kind of hard right now because with the

723
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,920
infrastructure bill just passed by the

724
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,319
federal government where we're

725
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:36,079
you know we don't really want to

726
00:46:36,079 --> 00:46:38,319
anticipate like we want to put our opera

727
00:46:38,319 --> 00:46:41,839
money aside for infrastructure and then we said oh god we could have paid

728
00:46:41,839 --> 00:46:44,240
this for infrastructure bill so you know

729
00:46:44,240 --> 00:46:45,440
that's why we're right now we're not

730
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,920
trying to obligate uh anything on in

731
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:49,520
those areas right now

732
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:51,119
also also you have you know

733
00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:53,359
administration you know uh because you

734
00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:54,800
know what uh

735
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,480
you know it takes a lot because you know

736
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,800
uh starting august 31st we have to start

737
00:46:58,800 --> 00:47:01,040
reporting on everything and then on a

738
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:03,920
quarterly basis uh through uh

739
00:47:03,920 --> 00:47:04,960
through the

740
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:07,280
uh us treasury website you know you have

741
00:47:07,280 --> 00:47:09,599
to have the uh all your reports

742
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:11,760
quarterly reports done uh every quarter

743
00:47:11,760 --> 00:47:16,240
starting august 31st will be our first uh first

744
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,800
payment and uh so far the only only

745
00:47:18,800 --> 00:47:20,559
place that we're actually spending money

746
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,800
is for the officers we have downstairs

747
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,599
so uh um boys and girls club we're

748
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:27,040
eventually we're going to be paying them

749
00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,480
soon and uh and uh in fact i got my

750
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:33,839
first call for the fire department for the cleaning supplies and stuff like

751
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:37,520
that so it's starting to work

752
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:40,000
there's a there's a uh

753
00:47:40,000 --> 00:47:41,119
you know a lot

754
00:47:41,119 --> 00:47:43,280
you can spend on uh

755
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,200
but you just have to be careful of not

756
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:48,000
of what you're doing uh we were looking

757
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:49,920
at the you know

758
00:47:49,920 --> 00:47:52,160
with the mayor you know yeah i think

759
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:53,520
he's got some ideas they're talking

760
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,000
about getting some uh task force not

761
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:57,680
task force together but

762
00:47:57,680 --> 00:47:59,920
a committee's together to start looking

763
00:47:59,920 --> 00:48:02,079
at how and what to spend the money on

764
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:03,839
and i i personally think that's a great

765
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:06,319
idea i think that's the way to go a lot

766
00:48:06,319 --> 00:48:08,400
of communities are starting to do that

767
00:48:08,400 --> 00:48:10,640
but like ourselves every every community

768
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,079
is cautious and they haven't really

769
00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,160
started spending money yet because

770
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,640
ever we're all waiting for the final uh

771
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:18,480
determination which was uh it was

772
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:20,800
supposed to end as a july 16th so it's

773
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:22,079
been a month now we haven't still

774
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,000
haven't heard anything final yet so i

775
00:48:24,000 --> 00:48:26,160
think most that's what most of the

776
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:31,510
communities are waiting for

777
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,119
is there any other information i can get

778
00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:36,870
for you

779
00:48:36,880 --> 00:48:40,000
in the budget and the 2022 budget it

780
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:41,280
will be yes

781
00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,559
actually we're going to show it two ways

782
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:44,319
we're gonna we're gonna show it as the

783
00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:46,640
uh in the line item itself that what

784
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,559
we're using art before and then in the

785
00:48:48,559 --> 00:48:50,400
revenue side we're going to have a you

786
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,640
know federal arpa number

787
00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:54,400
that's one of the things too as you're

788
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:57,599
calling we did the 2021 budget we we

789
00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:01,599
portioned i think 1.4 1.428 million for

790
00:49:01,599 --> 00:49:02,800
federal money we weren't sure we're

791
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,520
going to get it we did get it so soon

792
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:07,440
you know as we get up as we get closer

793
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:08,800
to the end of the year we're going to

794
00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:10,960
ask for to appropriate that money from

795
00:49:10,960 --> 00:49:13,200
the arpa into that and plus our fund

796
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:15,200
balance which we have mentioned before

797
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,960
uh and plus again like i said some of

798
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,839
the jobs that we want to you know uh

799
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:21,680
bring back you know that would all be

800
00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:23,359
part of the function we're just we're

801
00:49:23,359 --> 00:49:24,960
just trying to we're actually waiting

802
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:26,240
for the final

803
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:28,319
uh determination like we're a little

804
00:49:28,319 --> 00:49:30,480
surprised it hasn't come yet but

805
00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:32,800
that's that's why we haven't uh these

806
00:49:32,800 --> 00:49:35,200
were immediate needs uh the boys club

807
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:36,640
the police of fire so that's why we

808
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,880
brought him ahead

809
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,520
are there any questions

810
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,359
well just a comment that i think you

811
00:49:43,359 --> 00:49:45,440
know in terms of the infrastructure bill

812
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,280
and all of us waiting

813
00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,440
uh to hear what was going to happen with

814
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:50,960
that that i

815
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:52,079
completely

816
00:49:52,079 --> 00:49:56,559
understand and get that was important to wait for that

817
00:49:56,559 --> 00:50:06,150
and so

818
00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,119
one thing to happen with the

819
00:50:07,119 --> 00:50:08,559
infrastructure build that we're happy

820
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:11,440
about is prior to the passing it there

821
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:12,880
was that big thought that they were

822
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:15,040
going to claw back the second the second

823
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:18,079
payment but so far they passed the they

824
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:19,680
passed it and they did not mention it so

825
00:50:19,680 --> 00:50:20,960
it looks like we're going to get that

826
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,960
second payment which really is a big

827
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,480
relief for all of us yeah yeah it's

828
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:27,359
the

829
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:30,800
it's important with the uh the 1.3

830
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:32,960
trillion infrastructure i mean

831
00:50:32,960 --> 00:50:35,440
to make sure we're not

832
00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:37,520
using funds duel for you know for the

833
00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:38,800
same thing so

834
00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,640
like uh there's broadband in the

835
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,640
infrastructure package there's water or

836
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,119
sewer so we can make sure that we're

837
00:50:45,119 --> 00:50:47,200
using our our arpa money most

838
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,359
efficiently and effectively and you know

839
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:51,760
if if we went out and spent it right off

840
00:50:51,760 --> 00:50:53,280
the bat we would

841
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:55,440
certainly not be doing very good justice

842
00:50:55,440 --> 00:50:57,040
with that money

843
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,200
the other aspect that that i think we

844
00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,040
need to be careful of is the three and a

845
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:02,319
half trillion

846
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:04,240
budget package and what kind of money

847
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:06,160
we're going to get there

848
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:07,680
what's going to trickle down to the

849
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:10,480
state what's going to trickle down to us

850
00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:12,800
we have the county and the

851
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:14,880
school district to work with so we can

852
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,680
make sure that we're being effective

853
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,400
and not misappropriating the money so it

854
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:21,839
was

855
00:51:21,839 --> 00:51:23,680
very prudent that we didn't

856
00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,920
go out and spend it right off the bat

857
00:51:25,920 --> 00:51:27,359
um

858
00:51:27,359 --> 00:51:35,030
and uh believe me mr wilfond was waiting

859
00:51:35,040 --> 00:51:37,040
are there any other questions

860
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,040
yeah if i may mccarthy is there a

861
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:43,599
timeline to put this committee together

862
00:51:43,599 --> 00:51:46,480
if you may i was going to put one

863
00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:49,440
out looking after labor day but after

864
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,160
your remarks last week i defer to that

865
00:51:52,160 --> 00:51:53,839
we'll hopefully be able to negotiate

866
00:51:53,839 --> 00:51:56,400
something we're all on the same page and

867
00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,240
publicly sparring and the things that

868
00:51:58,240 --> 00:52:00,319
are going on

869
00:52:00,319 --> 00:52:02,000
well you know not really public sparring

870
00:52:02,000 --> 00:52:03,440
is just that we've been getting calls

871
00:52:03,440 --> 00:52:05,359
from a lot of people that's what is our

872
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:07,280
intention and you know we need to um

873
00:52:07,280 --> 00:52:09,280
discuss this giving the names of those

874
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:16,950
people i'm

875
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,880
in terms of sure what the autonomous

876
00:52:20,880 --> 00:52:23,359
would like to have the biggest impact

877
00:52:23,359 --> 00:52:25,680
you know we did a needs assessment in

878
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:27,440
the community

879
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:32,079
a few years ago we've got the cdpg

880
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:33,599
plan

881
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:36,240
they're fairly comprehensive but

882
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,040
they don't really take into account

883
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,319
the impact of coping and some of those

884
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:44,000
things that we're still learning from

885
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,359
we're getting some of the new census

886
00:52:45,359 --> 00:52:46,480
data in

887
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:48,319
uh you know it's where do we

888
00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:49,760
put that money so that it's going to

889
00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:51,920
have the biggest impact

890
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,760
and to be able to do it in a coordinated

891
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:56,160
fashion so it's not just the city but

892
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:58,240
it's the school district in the county

893
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,160
working

894
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,200
simultaneously to

895
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,079
leverage the resources to get long-term

896
00:53:06,079 --> 00:53:08,559
sustainable results

897
00:53:08,559 --> 00:53:09,839
that are

898
00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:11,599
wouldn't be obtained

899
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,920
by actions by the individual of this

900
00:53:13,920 --> 00:53:16,790
government

901
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:18,720
a prime example that would be brad plan

902
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:20,640
with the school and the city

903
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:22,480
uh exactly

904
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,240
where you know they have

905
00:53:24,240 --> 00:53:26,079
you know a big need when we saw the

906
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:27,040
combat

907
00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:28,640
that

908
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,800
i think people uh very clearly

909
00:53:30,800 --> 00:53:33,520
understood the need for students to

910
00:53:33,520 --> 00:53:36,800
learn but then people working at home

911
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,760
the mothers and fathers

912
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:43,359
got shifted into an environment that

913
00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:45,440
they didn't expect and so how do we

914
00:53:45,440 --> 00:53:47,760
build capacity there

915
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:49,440
that will

916
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:51,200
allow us to function whatever they call

917
00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,599
a new normal where yes there's still

918
00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,800
going to be some remote learning

919
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,640
from schools that probably wasn't done

920
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,040
before but at the same time how do we

921
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,839
foster economic growth to create job

922
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:06,880
opportunities for

923
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,920
i'll say local businesses but that's no

924
00:54:09,920 --> 00:54:11,839
longer true it's really global

925
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:14,319
businesses you can hire people here that

926
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:15,200
we're

927
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,200
supporting operations anywhere around

928
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,990
the world

929
00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:22,640
are there any other other questions

930
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:36,829
for

931
00:54:36,839 --> 00:54:38,480
right

932
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,520
common generic conversations with corey

933
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:44,160
coleman the county manager i've got to

934
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,760
set up a meeting with

935
00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:47,839
chair tony

936
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:51,750
in the near future

937
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:54,240
also want this to be done in a manner

938
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,319
that makes sense with

939
00:54:56,319 --> 00:54:58,480
our normal budget process

940
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:00,799
so do we spend some of this money in a

941
00:55:00,799 --> 00:55:03,359
manner that has a positive impact on

942
00:55:03,359 --> 00:55:05,839
costs going forward

943
00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:09,520
from our daily operation department

944
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:11,599
in some of these things there

945
00:55:11,599 --> 00:55:14,160
are things that

946
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,000
you know

947
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,280
anthony was

948
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,839
joking a little bit semi seriously talk

949
00:55:19,839 --> 00:55:24,630
about some of paul rafan's

950
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,720
interest in upgrading

951
00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:29,280
new water wells those are major

952
00:55:29,280 --> 00:55:30,480
investments

953
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:33,040
we would have to pay for those

954
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,400
one way or the other

955
00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,480
is it something that maybe we take a

956
00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:38,720
little bit of the arc of money to offset

957
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,079
the costs

958
00:55:40,079 --> 00:55:42,789
but still

959
00:55:42,799 --> 00:55:44,880
do most of the work under the general

960
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,040
revenue stream that's coming out of

961
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:48,880
the water

962
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,960
and sewer funds so we have to look at

963
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:51,920
those

964
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:54,160
in to leverage

965
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,000
those investments so that we can get the

966
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,440
biggest payment

967
00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:59,040
if we can reduce our

968
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,280
borrowing or borrow in a strategic

969
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:03,280
manner because now

970
00:56:03,280 --> 00:56:05,280
interest rates are

971
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,190
getting fairly low

972
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,200
how do you balance that going forward so

973
00:56:11,200 --> 00:56:13,520
we've prudently

974
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,680
done the borrowing but at the same time

975
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:16,960
we've got

976
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:18,079
this money

977
00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:20,240
other money that's out there

978
00:56:20,240 --> 00:56:22,640
we aggressively seek that into a package

979
00:56:22,640 --> 00:56:24,640
that benefits

980
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:25,599
the

981
00:56:25,599 --> 00:56:27,680
city operations but also

982
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:32,230
the county and schools

983
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,400
are there other questions

984
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:35,599
just

985
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:37,599
thank you mr ferrari i appreciate all

986
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:40,079
the work that you did on this

987
00:56:40,079 --> 00:56:41,440
i've done a fair amount of reading on

988
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,559
this my own my own um but it was to have

989
00:56:44,559 --> 00:56:46,960
a kind of recap and exactly how i

990
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:50,079
interpreted it so i'm grateful that um

991
00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:51,520
you took the time to do this quite

992
00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:53,440
frankly and i'm grateful that the mayor

993
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:56,319
has been you know slow to spend

994
00:56:56,319 --> 00:56:57,680
you know this infrastructure bill is

995
00:56:57,680 --> 00:56:59,520
going to be extremely beneficial to the

996
00:56:59,520 --> 00:57:01,920
city and i look forward to seeing how

997
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:02,720
much

998
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:03,760
dollars

999
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,000
filtering down to us so

1000
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,160
thank you just i just want to as if you need

1001
00:57:10,160 --> 00:57:11,760
to get more information go right to the

1002
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:14,710
u.s treasury

1003
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:16,720
they have different things for that

1004
00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:18,400
it breaks it out for you and as you can

1005
00:57:18,400 --> 00:57:20,720
see as you know we've been re

1006
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:22,319
my staff and i we go through it every

1007
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:24,640
day where we break it out we're breaking

1008
00:57:24,640 --> 00:57:26,559
out by different things as as much as we

1009
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:28,480
can we're trying to we're we're trying

1010
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:30,799
to get it so uh we can use it uh

1011
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:32,400
efficiently for our budget really that's

1012
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:34,240
what we're looking for that's what we're

1013
00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,720
that's our goal uh and you guys got the

1014
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,319
bigger ideas you got to do the bigger

1015
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:39,599
stuff

1016
00:57:39,599 --> 00:57:41,280
i truly appreciate it because there's a

1017
00:57:41,280 --> 00:57:43,440
lot of information there yeah a lot of

1018
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,839
information yeah the key piece is it's

1019
00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:48,559
not finalized yet and we really need to

1020
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,880
leverage this to the best of our ability

1021
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,359
mr patrick well i think that also

1022
00:57:53,359 --> 00:58:20,470
talking about community meetings

1023
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:33,109
really

1024
00:58:33,119 --> 00:58:36,640
next on the agenda thank you thank you

1025
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:39,200
acceptance of the 2020 assistance to the

1026
00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:41,359
firefighters grant i see we have chief

1027
00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:47,190
cynical here

1028
00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:54,069
do you have a seat or you can stand

1029
00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:54,799
hi

1030
00:58:54,799 --> 00:58:57,920
so this grant is uh is excellent timing

1031
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,040
for us

1032
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,520
it's a grant um for to replace our

1033
00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,440
thermal imaging cameras

1034
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:05,839
they are a very high-tech

1035
00:59:05,839 --> 00:59:07,040
device

1036
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,000
can you hear me yes yes we can

1037
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:12,400
no okay so i'll talk a little louder so

1038
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:14,960
it's a very high-tech device that it

1039
00:59:14,960 --> 00:59:18,319
just does that it uh by temperature wise

1040
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:20,880
uh it gives us images in a fire building

1041
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:24,480
it it enables us to locate fire victims

1042
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:27,200
if our room is 900 degrees and the human

1043
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,839
body's 100 it'll show us the outlay if

1044
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:30,880
you will

1045
00:59:30,880 --> 00:59:33,200
of a barn or a fire victory for us to

1046
00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:34,319
locate

1047
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:35,680
um

1048
00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:36,960
also it's

1049
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:38,720
very safe for our firefighters to know

1050
00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:40,400
where the city of the fire is in a zero

1051
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,559
visibility condition we don't want to be

1052
00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:44,480
above the sea of the fire we shoot it

1053
00:59:44,480 --> 00:59:47,839
off walls we're able to find exits

1054
00:59:47,839 --> 00:59:49,680
it's probably our second most important

1055
00:59:49,680 --> 00:59:51,119
piece of equipment we have next to our

1056
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:52,559
turnout gear

1057
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:56,000
so the grant is for sixty three thousand

1058
00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,680
two hundred dollars

1059
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,799
uh our portion uh would be fifty seven

1060
01:00:00,799 --> 01:00:02,720
hundred and forty five dollars

1061
01:00:02,720 --> 01:00:04,400
coincidentally uh we've been looking to

1062
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:06,559
replace these for a couple years now and

1063
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:08,400
uh mr fryer and i

1064
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:11,280
discussed um capital budget we actually

1065
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:13,599
have a capital budget

1066
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:16,319
plan together we had for 2020 which we

1067
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:18,799
uh put to 2021 so

1068
01:00:18,799 --> 01:00:22,720
timing's right and uh we're very uh

1069
01:00:22,720 --> 01:00:24,079
we're very thankful for this grant

1070
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:26,559
because it's that that important to us

1071
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:29,280
are there any questions no i'll i'll

1072
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:32,079
move this second second

1073
01:00:32,079 --> 01:00:35,270
all right

1074
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:38,000
thank you thank you thank you

1075
01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:39,839
call to order public safety the first

1076
01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:42,880
item discussion traffic signal follow-up

1077
01:00:42,880 --> 01:00:44,880
mr palomini thank you

1078
01:00:44,880 --> 01:00:47,760
where we left off was looking to see

1079
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:48,799
where

1080
01:00:48,799 --> 01:00:52,240
uh signage might be most beneficial

1081
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,079
mr caluccio has done

1082
01:00:54,079 --> 01:00:56,720
an incredible amount of work

1083
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,400
trying to figure this out and he's been

1084
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,680
digging deeper

1085
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:03,270
and i'll turn it over to

1086
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,520
thank you mr palmany

1087
01:01:05,520 --> 01:01:07,119
so yes

1088
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:10,640
i've done a little work

1089
01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:14,960
the last time we met

1090
01:01:14,960 --> 01:01:17,119
we looked at

1091
01:01:17,119 --> 01:01:19,040
the top 25

1092
01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:20,720
intersections

1093
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,960
unsignalized intersections in the city

1094
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,559
to look at the number of abstinent

1095
01:01:24,559 --> 01:01:27,910
reports

1096
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:32,319
so this was from january 2016 to july of

1097
01:01:32,319 --> 01:01:34,400
this year

1098
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:36,720
we don't normally look at such an

1099
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,799
extended period of time when we're

1100
01:01:38,799 --> 01:01:40,640
evaluating intersections and the

1101
01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:42,319
problems associated with them we

1102
01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:44,160
typically stick to like a two-year

1103
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,799
history because so many things change

1104
01:01:46,799 --> 01:01:50,400
over time volumes of traffic change of

1105
01:01:50,400 --> 01:01:52,880
where people come and go

1106
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,680
geometric changes all kinds of changes

1107
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:56,400
so

1108
01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:58,160
keep that in mind when we're looking at

1109
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:01,760
it um the original list that

1110
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,839
we looked at was

1111
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:04,640
from

1112
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:07,839
the police department reporting system

1113
01:02:07,839 --> 01:02:10,319
um what that means in comparison to what

1114
01:02:10,319 --> 01:02:13,039
we finally ultimately looked at is some

1115
01:02:13,039 --> 01:02:15,039
of those reports

1116
01:02:15,039 --> 01:02:17,680
were accidents that did not occur at the

1117
01:02:17,680 --> 01:02:19,760
intersection but were coded at that

1118
01:02:19,760 --> 01:02:21,200
intersection

1119
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:24,079
some reports did not require

1120
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:26,880
a accident report at all and some of

1121
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:29,760
them were duplicate polls

1122
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,440
so i don't know if you can see this or

1123
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,760
not but this is the original breakdown

1124
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,760
that we looked at

1125
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,720
before starting at

1126
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,039
you know a breakdown of the individual

1127
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:44,000
locations by year

1128
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,440
and the type of control that

1129
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:50,000
is in use at those intersections i'll

1130
01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:51,839
just give you a second to take the days

1131
01:02:51,839 --> 01:02:54,079
over then

1132
01:02:54,079 --> 01:02:56,319
at this point we've looked at

1133
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:00,559
five of the intersections

1134
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:03,200
erie boulevard and seneca street fear

1135
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:05,119
and gulf bedford and eastern and

1136
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,839
mcclellan in the plaza and the second

1137
01:03:07,839 --> 01:03:10,720
column you see was the total number of

1138
01:03:10,720 --> 01:03:12,640
accidents that were listed in the

1139
01:03:12,640 --> 01:03:14,480
original report

1140
01:03:14,480 --> 01:03:17,119
by the time i went through them all you

1141
01:03:17,119 --> 01:03:18,720
look at the numbers all the way over on

1142
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:21,119
my right side and those are actually

1143
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:24,640
the number of accidents that uh were

1144
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:25,920
reportable

1145
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:28,480
at that location had the proper

1146
01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,960
information so you can see there's a

1147
01:03:30,960 --> 01:03:32,960
pretty good uh difference between some

1148
01:03:32,960 --> 01:03:35,680
of them you're in seneca's 48 it's

1149
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:38,079
actually down the 32

1150
01:03:38,079 --> 01:03:41,920
here in golf 23 down to 30 etc so again

1151
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,720
you can't always look at a book by its

1152
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,190
cover you've got to dig a little deeper

1153
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:51,440
this is the intersection of erie

1154
01:03:51,440 --> 01:03:54,240
boulevard and seneca street

1155
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,359
all the accidents occurring during that

1156
01:03:57,359 --> 01:03:59,319
time period from july

1157
01:03:59,319 --> 01:04:02,079
2016 to present and the type of

1158
01:04:02,079 --> 01:04:05,119
accidents that have occurred there

1159
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:08,319
again there were 53 in the original one

1160
01:04:08,319 --> 01:04:12,880
we're down to um 32

1161
01:04:12,880 --> 01:04:14,880
six of them are

1162
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,520
personal injury accidents denoted by the

1163
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:19,839
pink color

1164
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:22,880
one auto pedestrian

1165
01:04:22,880 --> 01:04:25,680
the largest amount of accident types is

1166
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:29,200
15 they were rear-end accidents

1167
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:32,160
12 turning movement accidents and four

1168
01:04:32,160 --> 01:04:36,950
side swing accidents

1169
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:38,720
not all terrible if you look at the

1170
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:41,200
graph over time you can see that

1171
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:43,839
some of those numbers have gone down

1172
01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:45,839
and you know why is that covet is

1173
01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:48,160
probably one piece of that

1174
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:50,799
you know based on uh

1175
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:52,799
you know last year the reduced amount of

1176
01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:54,640
traffic

1177
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:55,920
again

1178
01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:57,920
this is an intersection maintained by

1179
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,760
the department of state so i'm going to

1180
01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:02,160
take this information these accidents

1181
01:05:02,160 --> 01:05:03,599
which

1182
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:06,000
you know also shows

1183
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:08,480
contributing factors on them you know

1184
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,559
what was going on before the accident

1185
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:12,079
during so i'm going to ask the

1186
01:05:12,079 --> 01:05:16,000
department of state i'm sorry the

1187
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:17,680
department of transportation to take a

1188
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:20,720
look at it and provide some

1189
01:05:20,720 --> 01:05:23,039
evaluation of what we can do or what

1190
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:25,039
they can do to improve the situation

1191
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:27,589
there

1192
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:30,880
next intersection is golf and fear

1193
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:32,720
avenue

1194
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,400
again what are we looking at a lot of

1195
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:37,520
rear end accidents right um i bet a lot

1196
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,680
of you are surprised that that's the top

1197
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,680
type you would expect the right angles

1198
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:44,240
right to be the the highest but no

1199
01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:46,000
they're rear ends and

1200
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,319
the good part on this particular drawing

1201
01:05:48,319 --> 01:05:50,319
is there's only one pink which would

1202
01:05:50,319 --> 01:05:53,200
mean there's only been one

1203
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,119
injury personal injury

1204
01:05:55,119 --> 01:05:57,039
another interesting fact you see the

1205
01:05:57,039 --> 01:06:00,400
four deer on the screen so there's a

1206
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,839
few deer accidents at the

1207
01:06:02,839 --> 01:06:05,119
intersection as well as a couple of

1208
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:07,599
people lost control during

1209
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:10,240
bad weather

1210
01:06:10,240 --> 01:06:14,710
and again looking at the

1211
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:17,039
graph over time you can see that really

1212
01:06:17,039 --> 01:06:18,559
even though there's so many that we're

1213
01:06:18,559 --> 01:06:20,640
looking at that they are actually going

1214
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:22,799
down there but there's some things that

1215
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:24,240
we can do

1216
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,559
at this intersection that i think

1217
01:06:26,559 --> 01:06:28,559
can improve the situation we'll talk

1218
01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:30,000
about that on the end i'm just going to

1219
01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,200
go through the other two

1220
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,720
bedford and eastern

1221
01:06:34,720 --> 01:06:37,599
certainly been in a large number of

1222
01:06:37,599 --> 01:06:39,359
accidents over time

1223
01:06:39,359 --> 01:06:41,599
also notice the pink on this one a lot

1224
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,760
more personal injury

1225
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:44,799
this

1226
01:06:44,799 --> 01:06:46,480
location than

1227
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:49,920
others we've seen so far and it is more

1228
01:06:49,920 --> 01:06:51,680
of what you'd expect right the right

1229
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:54,960
angle accidents people having issues uh

1230
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:57,280
seeing or cars going too fast on the

1231
01:06:57,280 --> 01:06:59,920
main road versus someone coming out big

1232
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:01,359
um more

1233
01:07:01,359 --> 01:07:04,640
to what you'd expect to see

1234
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:05,920
over time

1235
01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:06,799
so

1236
01:07:06,799 --> 01:07:08,640
again i want to show you the graph on

1237
01:07:08,640 --> 01:07:10,640
this because it is a little deceiving

1238
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:12,720
because

1239
01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:15,039
the amount of accidents has actually

1240
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:17,680
gone down since uh we started looking at

1241
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:19,440
this and there have been some things

1242
01:07:19,440 --> 01:07:21,920
that we've done there over time such as

1243
01:07:21,920 --> 01:07:24,400
installing uh no standing here to corner

1244
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:25,839
signs

1245
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:26,960
that

1246
01:07:26,960 --> 01:07:28,799
improve sight distance so that people

1247
01:07:28,799 --> 01:07:33,200
can see out of the intersection better

1248
01:07:33,200 --> 01:07:35,760
but we want to continue to

1249
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:39,680
make those types of improvements to

1250
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:43,680
make sure that these numbers stay down

1251
01:07:43,680 --> 01:07:45,440
this one that we're going to look at

1252
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:49,589
today is mcclellan in the plaza

1253
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:52,880
not a huge number but i did want to look

1254
01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:55,359
at this it's located at the corner at a

1255
01:07:55,359 --> 01:07:57,760
school so i felt it was a high enough

1256
01:07:57,760 --> 01:07:59,440
number that i wanted to find out what

1257
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:01,359
was going on here so

1258
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:02,240
again

1259
01:08:02,240 --> 01:08:04,880
a lot of rear end accidents right um

1260
01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:06,799
surprising that

1261
01:08:06,799 --> 01:08:09,119
that's the situation for

1262
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:11,920
personal injury accidents and

1263
01:08:11,920 --> 01:08:13,599
a couple of uh

1264
01:08:13,599 --> 01:08:16,719
turning accidents as well

1265
01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:19,199
same situation though and you would

1266
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:21,839
totally expect some of this to go down

1267
01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:25,679
in 20 right and you know over time not a

1268
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:27,920
very uh

1269
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:30,400
an odd pattern more or less

1270
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:31,120
but

1271
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,440
again there's some things that

1272
01:08:33,440 --> 01:08:35,679
we want to look at to see if we can try

1273
01:08:35,679 --> 01:08:37,199
to make some improvements at this

1274
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:39,040
intersection as well

1275
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:40,880
real quickly i just wanted to show you

1276
01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:42,719
this is a

1277
01:08:42,719 --> 01:08:44,560
chart with

1278
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,640
all of the accidents that have occurred

1279
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,719
in the city over that time period this

1280
01:08:48,719 --> 01:08:51,359
is signalized that intersect everything

1281
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:53,359
and basically i'm asking you to look at

1282
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:55,199
it to see what the three top

1283
01:08:55,199 --> 01:08:57,520
contributing factors are

1284
01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,080
driver inattention distraction failure

1285
01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,000
to yield right away and following too

1286
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:04,159
closely if you take those three and you

1287
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:06,239
put them on all my other graphs that i

1288
01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:06,960
did

1289
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,640
you will see that those are the

1290
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,319
contributing factors in all those

1291
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:11,600
situations

1292
01:09:11,600 --> 01:09:12,480
so

1293
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,480
even though we expected to see something

1294
01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:16,960
different this is what the numbers show

1295
01:09:16,960 --> 01:09:19,839
at these intersections versus other

1296
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:23,990
intersections in the city

1297
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:26,640
okay so what can we do here um erie

1298
01:09:26,640 --> 01:09:28,799
boulevard and center history

1299
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:30,719
again it's maintained by the department

1300
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:31,839
of

1301
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:34,400
transportation we're going to talk to

1302
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:35,679
them see what

1303
01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:37,759
they recommend the uh

1304
01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:40,319
that can be done there potentially other

1305
01:09:40,319 --> 01:09:42,480
signage maybe looking at the speed limit

1306
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:44,560
that's 40 miles an hour there that may

1307
01:09:44,560 --> 01:09:46,640
be a potential

1308
01:09:46,640 --> 01:09:49,120
correction for that location

1309
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:50,960
fury golf road

1310
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:53,359
again improved signage um

1311
01:09:53,359 --> 01:09:56,400
i think that uh if we put a stop ahead

1312
01:09:56,400 --> 01:09:59,120
on golf road um you know back toward the

1313
01:09:59,120 --> 01:10:02,480
route seven that may be um

1314
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:05,199
helpful um this is an opportunity for

1315
01:10:05,199 --> 01:10:09,199
one of the led stop signs uh it's uh um

1316
01:10:09,199 --> 01:10:10,159
you know

1317
01:10:10,159 --> 01:10:12,480
a they don't necessarily not see the

1318
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:14,640
sign but there's just so many things

1319
01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:16,400
happening when you're driving that your

1320
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:18,239
own you're you're not always paying

1321
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,159
attention right

1322
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:23,199
the deer accidents i think we should put

1323
01:10:23,199 --> 01:10:24,800
some deer signs up so that's what we're

1324
01:10:24,800 --> 01:10:26,640
going to do put some deer warning signs

1325
01:10:26,640 --> 01:10:28,480
up

1326
01:10:28,480 --> 01:10:29,920
we're going to look at potentially

1327
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,320
putting intersection warning signs on

1328
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:35,199
fear avenue you know sometimes um the

1329
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:38,719
cars drive uh rather quickly on um

1330
01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:41,760
fair avenue and if your sight distance

1331
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,920
is limited these people that are at the

1332
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:45,440
stop sign

1333
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:47,120
jerk ahead think they're clear and then

1334
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,880
someone smashes into the backbone so

1335
01:10:50,880 --> 01:10:52,640
those are things that we're going to do

1336
01:10:52,640 --> 01:10:55,840
to try to improve the situation

1337
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,600
replace the existing street name sign

1338
01:10:57,600 --> 01:11:00,480
with larger sign and relocate it

1339
01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:03,280
again you want to try to reduce the

1340
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,600
issues that drivers have wherever

1341
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,440
possible so if it's someone that's

1342
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:08,960
trying to understand where they are

1343
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:10,400
they're lost or something they're going

1344
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,560
to take those extra seconds to take

1345
01:11:12,560 --> 01:11:14,719
their eyes off of the car in front of

1346
01:11:14,719 --> 01:11:16,239
them to look around them so we put

1347
01:11:16,239 --> 01:11:18,000
larger signs up

1348
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,520
prominently

1349
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:22,400
displayed and very conspicuous then

1350
01:11:22,400 --> 01:11:23,920
you know we think that we can reduce

1351
01:11:23,920 --> 01:11:26,000
some of the problems that are happening

1352
01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:28,880
as well as trim foliage you can get it

1353
01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:30,719
kind of hard to put all these drawings

1354
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:33,440
together for you guys but if if i went

1355
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,600
back to the golf in fear you could see

1356
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,000
the sight distance problem with

1357
01:11:38,000 --> 01:11:41,040
the trees and limbs and that needs to be

1358
01:11:41,040 --> 01:11:42,719
done as well with that intersection and

1359
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:44,719
that's what we're going to do

1360
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:46,080
bedford and eastern i don't want to

1361
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,840
forget about this intersection because

1362
01:11:47,840 --> 01:11:51,440
there it has had a poor past

1363
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,920
so one of the things that we'd like to

1364
01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:56,239
do is remove a tree located on the

1365
01:11:56,239 --> 01:11:58,719
southeast corner it's on on

1366
01:11:58,719 --> 01:12:01,679
bedford uh at eastern and

1367
01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:04,000
this stop sign is actually on the tree

1368
01:12:04,000 --> 01:12:05,360
and the reason it's on the tree is

1369
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:07,199
because there's no place to put it

1370
01:12:07,199 --> 01:12:09,840
that's going to be clearly visible

1371
01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,400
if we don't remove the tree so i think

1372
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:16,000
that needs to be done and

1373
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:17,600
that's what we're going to look for

1374
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,760
support

1375
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:22,719
last intersection mcclellan in the plaza

1376
01:12:22,719 --> 01:12:24,800
another location that i think that could

1377
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:27,760
take advantage of an led of led stop

1378
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,520
signs on the mccullen street approaches

1379
01:12:31,520 --> 01:12:33,520
as i said before there's so many things

1380
01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,280
happening especially around the school

1381
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:36,800
that you take your eye off of the fact

1382
01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,679
that you have a stop sign there and uh

1383
01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:41,760
you roll into the guy in front of you so

1384
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,840
i think that's a really good

1385
01:12:43,840 --> 01:12:46,960
location to try try these out and

1386
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:49,520
there's also some foliage from the side

1387
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:51,199
streets from the plaza especially going

1388
01:12:51,199 --> 01:12:53,120
southbound to the right

1389
01:12:53,120 --> 01:12:53,920
that

1390
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:56,880
if we can get that trimmed by a home

1391
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,800
owner actually then that will improve

1392
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:01,360
the site distance and

1393
01:13:01,360 --> 01:13:04,560
improve the situation overall

1394
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:06,320
that's all i have for you today i only

1395
01:13:06,320 --> 01:13:09,360
did five of them but if you can imagine

1396
01:13:09,360 --> 01:13:11,840
each one of those has taken me three to

1397
01:13:11,840 --> 01:13:14,800
four hours each to do i actually have to

1398
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:17,040
go through every single accident report

1399
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:20,000
and verify the information and and

1400
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:21,920
graphics so i'm going to continue to

1401
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:23,440
work on the rest of them but they are

1402
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,360
going to take time but i don't think you

1403
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,320
want to see me every week so

1404
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:30,239
you know certainly it's something that

1405
01:13:30,239 --> 01:13:31,440
we'd like to

1406
01:13:31,440 --> 01:13:33,920
proceed with now that that was excellent

1407
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:35,040
it was

1408
01:13:35,040 --> 01:13:36,560
an incredible

1409
01:13:36,560 --> 01:13:38,960
labor-intensive job and

1410
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,440
we really appreciate it and thank you so

1411
01:13:41,440 --> 01:13:42,800
much for your

1412
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,880
hard work and making sure that we're

1413
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:48,239
using uh data to actually absolutely put

1414
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,480
it in the right spots versus

1415
01:13:50,480 --> 01:13:53,040
anecdotal information great

1416
01:13:53,040 --> 01:13:57,669
thank you anybody else have questions

1417
01:13:57,679 --> 01:14:06,630
yes um

1418
01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:09,040
in the communities in terms of speaking

1419
01:14:09,040 --> 01:14:10,320
and so

1420
01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:12,560
how can we can people get signs or how

1421
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:27,110
would a

1422
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,480
i think the california avenue in

1423
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:30,159
particular for people coming off the

1424
01:14:30,159 --> 01:14:31,520
highway just like

1425
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:33,520
fun too so um

1426
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:35,440
it may not be led signing but there have

1427
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:37,920
been questions regarding four-way stops

1428
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:40,159
it's one question and secondly um

1429
01:14:40,159 --> 01:14:41,679
science and children

1430
01:14:41,679 --> 01:14:42,560
so

1431
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,480
yeah i mean let me separate them for a

1432
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:46,880
minute so as far as the four-way stop

1433
01:14:46,880 --> 01:14:49,360
signs we follow guidelines uh from new

1434
01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:50,880
york state and the federal highway

1435
01:14:50,880 --> 01:14:52,880
authority on the placement of signs and

1436
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:54,640
there are certain guidelines we look to

1437
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:56,159
follow

1438
01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:58,480
i as i said to you before if you provide

1439
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:00,239
me the locations we can certainly

1440
01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:02,320
evaluate those intersections it's based

1441
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,640
on volume and traffic on the main and on

1442
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,440
the side it's based on

1443
01:15:07,440 --> 01:15:11,910
pedestrian activity it's based on

1444
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,120
you know

1445
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,400
geometric uh issues

1446
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,640
you know accident histories certainly

1447
01:15:18,640 --> 01:15:20,640
provide them to me and i can take a look

1448
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:22,960
at them as far as children at place

1449
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,440
signs give me a street that the kids

1450
01:15:25,440 --> 01:15:27,600
don't fight on and i'll you know

1451
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,199
they're on every single street in the

1452
01:15:29,199 --> 01:15:30,159
city

1453
01:15:30,159 --> 01:15:32,960
we would never be able to

1454
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:36,320
maintain an inventory of

1455
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:40,239
signs for children that live on streets

1456
01:15:40,239 --> 01:15:42,480
because they live on every street in the

1457
01:15:42,480 --> 01:15:44,800
city i i don't know how you would pick

1458
01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,560
and choose as to

1459
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:47,520
um

1460
01:15:47,520 --> 01:15:49,679
what street to place them on and what

1461
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:53,199
street not to place them on i i don't i

1462
01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:56,000
don't have an idea of how i would even

1463
01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,159
do that so yes you drive into other

1464
01:15:58,159 --> 01:16:00,480
communities they have them every place

1465
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:03,120
what makes them special nothing they put

1466
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:05,760
them on dead end streets you know the

1467
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,520
people that are going down dead end

1468
01:16:07,520 --> 01:16:09,280
streets are the ones that live there if

1469
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:10,480
they don't know that children are

1470
01:16:10,480 --> 01:16:12,640
playing on their own street then

1471
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:15,440
you know but again if you have locations

1472
01:16:15,440 --> 01:16:17,360
that people have issues please send them

1473
01:16:17,360 --> 01:16:19,679
to me i will evaluate them for other

1474
01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:21,679
potential signage and see what we can do

1475
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:23,520
but you know i gotta have some sort of

1476
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,239
data to back up why i'm doing a certain

1477
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:27,040
thing

1478
01:16:27,040 --> 01:16:28,880
but i would be more than happy to look

1479
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:32,320
at uh whatever you send me

1480
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:46,830
okay

1481
01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:50,080
yeah contributing factors yes thank you

1482
01:16:50,080 --> 01:17:06,870
absolutely

1483
01:17:06,880 --> 01:17:10,080
how do we move forward from here um

1484
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,000
i suggest we move forward with the

1485
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,120
recommendations of mr caluccio for the

1486
01:17:15,120 --> 01:17:17,280
two intersections that he said to put

1487
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:18,880
signs on

1488
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,960
and then we proceed from there see how

1489
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:22,239
it works

1490
01:17:22,239 --> 01:17:24,560
if we see some progress then

1491
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:26,800
we might look at additional signage but

1492
01:17:26,800 --> 01:17:38,070
i think that's a good starting point

1493
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,040
so we're moving it so authorize them to

1494
01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:53,830
purchase

1495
01:17:53,840 --> 01:17:56,159
the next item is a follow-up from

1496
01:17:56,159 --> 01:17:58,480
several weeks ago request for new york

1497
01:17:58,480 --> 01:18:00,400
state legislature and the governor to

1498
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,800
amend the new york state final law

1499
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,360
to mandate a minimum 10-year sentence

1500
01:18:05,360 --> 01:18:06,880
for people convicted of criminal

1501
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:08,000
possession

1502
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:09,280
of a

1503
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:11,679
weapon felony the last time we discussed

1504
01:18:11,679 --> 01:18:12,960
this um

1505
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:15,600
the takeaway was uh invite this

1506
01:18:15,600 --> 01:18:17,440
connected police department the district

1507
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:19,440
attorney and the social service

1508
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:21,440
department to help us with some

1509
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:22,719
information

1510
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,440
to support this

1511
01:18:24,440 --> 01:18:26,480
resolution i think it was we were going

1512
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:28,800
to go back and do our own research

1513
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,800
um which i think you know i thought

1514
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,960
everyone was going to do and

1515
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,880
you know come forward with uh

1516
01:18:34,880 --> 01:18:38,320
you know we have literal support from chief

1517
01:18:38,320 --> 01:18:43,430
clifford

1518
01:18:43,440 --> 01:18:45,280
is this something we want to support or

1519
01:18:45,280 --> 01:18:46,480
not support

1520
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:47,280
um

1521
01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:48,560
you know something i'd like to move

1522
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,239
forward and if i don't have supports in

1523
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:52,800
the committee um you know

1524
01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:54,400
i'm

1525
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:56,000
but i think we need to

1526
01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:56,880
you know

1527
01:18:56,880 --> 01:18:59,360
have some sort of stance here you know

1528
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:00,159
there's

1529
01:19:00,159 --> 01:19:02,320
so much gun violence in our city and

1530
01:19:02,320 --> 01:19:03,840
across the region

1531
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,760
and i'd like to

1532
01:19:05,760 --> 01:19:07,679
new york state legislature to take a

1533
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:10,080
long hard look at it

1534
01:19:10,080 --> 01:19:12,000
and have some sort of

1535
01:19:12,000 --> 01:19:15,120
discussion around it and i think this is

1536
01:19:15,120 --> 01:19:16,960
a good resolution to get the discussion

1537
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:18,080
building

1538
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:19,600
to ensure that we

1539
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,040
you know aren't

1540
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:23,679
twiddling our thumbs here and um having

1541
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:25,760
the i know they're distracted with other

1542
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,360
things right now but

1543
01:19:27,360 --> 01:19:28,719
at the end of the day i still think

1544
01:19:28,719 --> 01:19:31,120
public safety is a

1545
01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:32,960
major concern for anyone who lives in

1546
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:35,120
the city and i think that you know

1547
01:19:35,120 --> 01:19:37,040
having them have to take a long hard

1548
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:39,280
look at this and understand that you

1549
01:19:39,280 --> 01:19:41,199
know we need to have some sort of

1550
01:19:41,199 --> 01:19:44,080
uh substantial penalty for someone who

1551
01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:45,760
is

1552
01:19:45,760 --> 01:19:48,239
you know willing to take a gun and

1553
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:50,400
use it to settle a dispute

1554
01:19:50,400 --> 01:19:52,560
or use it to you know

1555
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:55,120
possibly hurt or carve or kill and it is

1556
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:57,120
a bystander and it's happening far too

1557
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,320
many times

1558
01:19:58,320 --> 01:19:59,440
and

1559
01:19:59,440 --> 01:20:01,280
i'm not sure that the state legislature

1560
01:20:01,280 --> 01:20:03,600
is really focused on it and

1561
01:20:03,600 --> 01:20:05,280
you know my recommendation is let's get

1562
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,760
the state legislature focused on it if i

1563
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:08,960
don't have the support i don't have the

1564
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,320
support but

1565
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:11,360
you know that i would like to move

1566
01:20:11,360 --> 01:20:13,360
forward with something if i can have the

1567
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:16,639
support from the committee so

1568
01:20:16,639 --> 01:20:21,350
open up a discussion

1569
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,040
my understanding though is a little like

1570
01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:24,560
the last time that we would there would

1571
01:20:24,560 --> 01:20:27,280
be some i haven't seen anything

1572
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,280
that there would be material that

1573
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:33,440
as i've um before i think before we move

1574
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:35,360
forward with something that we would

1575
01:20:35,360 --> 01:20:37,600
show but we've taken the time and effort

1576
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,679
and diligence supposed to get the data

1577
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:41,520
that supports the fact that why we want

1578
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,800
to move this forward so um and i thought

1579
01:20:44,800 --> 01:21:10,629
you know

1580
01:21:10,639 --> 01:21:13,199
that said these are the reasons why

1581
01:21:13,199 --> 01:21:14,880
and this is what we put together the

1582
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,800
school we come up with and you know

1583
01:21:16,800 --> 01:21:19,199
here's how many crimes happen here you

1584
01:21:19,199 --> 01:21:21,280
know in our community the support dates

1585
01:21:21,280 --> 01:21:23,280
fans all of those kind of things and

1586
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,760
with that a couple of that um have that

1587
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:28,560
discussion about moving quality and also

1588
01:21:28,560 --> 01:21:31,280
within that discussion um seeing um

1589
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:32,960
looking for

1590
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:35,760
where there have been mandatory minimums

1591
01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:37,360
it has been affected

1592
01:21:37,360 --> 01:21:38,239
in

1593
01:21:38,239 --> 01:21:40,480
people and determining people from human

1594
01:21:40,480 --> 01:21:47,270
rights so

1595
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:48,880
yeah an agreement with that that's what

1596
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,120
we take away from the last meeting was

1597
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:53,280
to get information and get this agency

1598
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:57,120
to provide us some information um

1599
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,239
we can follow up and with this agency

1600
01:22:00,239 --> 01:22:02,800
i i i can follow up with this agency or

1601
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:04,719
my cell phone is michael

1602
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:06,239
to get some information directly from

1603
01:22:06,239 --> 01:22:08,639
this agency or would you like to follow

1604
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:10,239
directly

1605
01:22:10,239 --> 01:22:12,560
before i go to

1606
01:22:12,560 --> 01:22:14,719
i'd like to make a suggestion go ahead

1607
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:16,400
so

1608
01:22:16,400 --> 01:22:18,800
this is just a resolution

1609
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,360
whether it has support or not

1610
01:22:21,360 --> 01:22:22,159
you know

1611
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:25,520
we have to remember our civics so it's

1612
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:28,159
going to go to the state if it passes

1613
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:29,840
they would go to committee they would

1614
01:22:29,840 --> 01:22:31,520
research it they would do all the stuff

1615
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,600
that we're talking about here we are not

1616
01:22:33,600 --> 01:22:35,040
passing this law

1617
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:35,840
so

1618
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:37,679
if there's support for

1619
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:39,040
out of committee

1620
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:42,639
vote for it if there's not support then

1621
01:22:42,639 --> 01:22:50,070
say so and it's dead and we move on

1622
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,440
i don't think anyone is saying that

1623
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:52,639
they're not supporting it it's just that

1624
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:54,159
people are asking for more information

1625
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:55,920
and we take away from the last meeting

1626
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:57,440
was to get information from these free

1627
01:22:57,440 --> 01:22:59,840
agency and that did not happen

1628
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,760
so that's why i'm repeating the ask

1629
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:02,719
again

1630
01:23:02,719 --> 01:23:04,560
that can we get information to help ms

1631
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:06,159
porterfield with some of the information

1632
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:08,159
and then we'll move forward with it but

1633
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:09,840
that's done at the state level it's not

1634
01:23:09,840 --> 01:23:12,320
done at this level so it's this is a

1635
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:15,040
resolution asking for them to consider

1636
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,880
upping the

1637
01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:18,719
mandatory minimum

1638
01:23:18,719 --> 01:23:19,679
so

1639
01:23:19,679 --> 01:23:22,159
that's where it's done um

1640
01:23:22,159 --> 01:23:24,480
if if there's no support then let's move

1641
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:27,040
on to say there's no support and you're

1642
01:23:27,040 --> 01:23:33,440
done

1643
01:23:33,450 --> 01:23:51,270
[Music]

1644
01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:53,120
those are important things to consider

1645
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:54,880
as we're asking the state to do this

1646
01:23:54,880 --> 01:23:56,320
those are the things

1647
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,159
to consider i think we should be talking

1648
01:23:58,159 --> 01:23:59,840
with the district attorney about this

1649
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:01,600
and someone who deals with this all the

1650
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:03,280
time i think it's important to get the

1651
01:24:03,280 --> 01:24:05,440
input from people who

1652
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:07,760
do this kind of work on a regular basis

1653
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:10,080
and for those of us who do not just say

1654
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:10,960
you know

1655
01:24:10,960 --> 01:24:12,960
i think it's a good idea without having

1656
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:20,390
really researched why

1657
01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:21,760
so i think those are all things that we

1658
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:24,320
really need to consider not just um to

1659
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:25,199
say

1660
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:27,360
10 is the number for whatever reason is

1661
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:28,840
a number and i don't know the answer to

1662
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:35,040
that so i i don't i don't see us i don't see myself supporting it without

1663
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:36,880
something backing up that makes sense

1664
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:38,960
for me to re-understand

1665
01:24:38,960 --> 01:24:41,120
us to discuss and like i said if it's

1666
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:44,960
not 10 if it's if it's 10 now

1667
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:48,239
it's it's less than 10 down to 10

1668
01:24:48,239 --> 01:24:50,000
and again

1669
01:24:50,000 --> 01:24:52,159
it hasn't been proven to be a deterrent

1670
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,080
in mandatory members i think those are

1671
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:55,920
all items that we should assess at this

1672
01:24:55,920 --> 01:25:09,110
level with that

1673
01:25:09,120 --> 01:25:16,149
[Music]

1674
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:18,560
and i'd suggest we hold off until people

1675
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:21,600
actually do the research and then

1676
01:25:21,600 --> 01:25:23,920
if when people get their research done

1677
01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:25,199
we can bring it back and have a

1678
01:25:25,199 --> 01:25:27,679
discussion but uh

1679
01:25:27,679 --> 01:25:29,360
you know we keep putting this on the

1680
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,080
agenda we look ineffective

1681
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:33,199
and

1682
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:34,960
you know it's on all of us to do our

1683
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:37,360
research and do our discussions

1684
01:25:37,360 --> 01:25:38,719
don't have any problem with what you're

1685
01:25:38,719 --> 01:25:41,040
saying so let's either do it or don't do

1686
01:25:41,040 --> 01:25:44,320
it and move forward

1687
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:46,320
so i think we need clarity on you're

1688
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:48,080
asking us what are you saying each of us

1689
01:25:48,080 --> 01:25:49,760
should do our own research

1690
01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:51,520
that was what all our understanding was

1691
01:25:51,520 --> 01:26:18,229
i thought we were all going to mr

1692
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:20,560
legislation so i would ask the person

1693
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:31,189
who's

1694
01:26:31,199 --> 01:26:32,719
so

1695
01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:39,030
that would be helpful for me

1696
01:26:39,040 --> 01:26:43,910
any other discussion

1697
01:26:43,920 --> 01:26:45,760
so whatever information that we have can

1698
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,120
we share it i know ms patrick had

1699
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:51,040
suggested send it to ms michael and they

1700
01:26:51,040 --> 01:26:51,840
can

1701
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,239
send it out to the entire council

1702
01:26:54,239 --> 01:26:56,719
can we do the same again and send that

1703
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:58,639
information to ms michael

1704
01:26:58,639 --> 01:27:07,110
for distribution

1705
01:27:07,120 --> 01:27:09,840
all right thank you

1706
01:27:09,840 --> 01:27:11,440
we'll go on to the next item this is

1707
01:27:11,440 --> 01:27:13,120
just a follow-up to see if there is

1708
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:15,280
additional information with regards to

1709
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:18,560
central park sidewalk petition a couple

1710
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,239
weeks ago we had asked for an estimate

1711
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:22,320
from mr wallin

1712
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:24,639
i'm still in any updates on this um

1713
01:27:24,639 --> 01:27:26,639
sidewalk petition um

1714
01:27:26,639 --> 01:27:28,560
program

1715
01:27:28,560 --> 01:27:30,880
no update i've really been around for

1716
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:33,120
three weeks i've had a

1717
01:27:33,120 --> 01:27:35,760
vacation and then a quarantine so i

1718
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:36,960
really haven't been in the office i

1719
01:27:36,960 --> 01:27:38,560
apologize for that but i did speak with

1720
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:40,400
alex about it about giving you

1721
01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:44,159
information uh you know john really uh

1722
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:47,990
put on a show

1723
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,920
no problem it's just a follow-up to see

1724
01:27:49,920 --> 01:27:51,760
where you are all right

1725
01:27:51,760 --> 01:27:55,120
[Music]

1726
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,760
all right thank you so much

1727
01:27:57,760 --> 01:28:02,790
any other businesses for public safety

1728
01:28:02,800 --> 01:28:25,110
second all in favor

1729
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:28,719
we'll just need to wait time