1 00:00:01,360 --> 00:00:02,660 - I would move to approve. 2 00:00:03,580 --> 00:00:04,860 - Yeah? 3 00:00:04,860 --> 00:00:06,420 - Motion by Alder Gerlach to approve, 4 00:00:06,420 --> 00:00:08,450 seconded by Alder Wery. 5 00:00:08,450 --> 00:00:10,060 All in favor? 6 00:00:10,060 --> 00:00:11,050 - [Participants] Aye. 7 00:00:11,050 --> 00:00:12,480 - Opposed? 8 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:14,563 Passes unanimously. 9 00:00:16,410 --> 00:00:19,749 - Can you repeat who made the motion and who seconded... 10 00:00:19,749 --> 00:00:21,067 - Alder Gerlach made the motion. 11 00:00:21,067 --> 00:00:22,254 Alder Wery seconded. 12 00:00:22,254 --> 00:00:23,254 - Thank you. 13 00:00:25,496 --> 00:00:29,640 - Though, Alder Wery was first, but he seconded. 14 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:30,473 Never mind. 15 00:00:30,473 --> 00:00:31,500 - Ready for the next time. 16 00:00:31,500 --> 00:00:32,383 - It's a stretch. 17 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:36,620 On to item two. 18 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:38,300 Consideration with possible action 19 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:40,270 on approving the purchase of 20 00:00:40,270 --> 00:00:45,270 a 270 foot snow tube conveyor built lift system 21 00:00:45,616 --> 00:00:50,150 from Magic Carpet Lifts RMCE Inc., 22 00:00:50,150 --> 00:00:54,380 for a total cost of $156,340. 23 00:00:54,380 --> 00:00:55,370 Staff? 24 00:00:55,370 --> 00:00:57,630 - So, I've included in the agenda pack, 25 00:00:57,630 --> 00:00:59,070 at the quote that was submitted 26 00:00:59,070 --> 00:01:01,440 to us from Magic Carpet Lifts. 27 00:01:01,440 --> 00:01:05,340 So, in 2021, the city bonded $175,000 28 00:01:05,340 --> 00:01:07,060 for the purchase and installation 29 00:01:07,060 --> 00:01:09,710 of a snow tube conveyor belt lift system 30 00:01:09,710 --> 00:01:12,430 at Triangle Hill in the Baird's Creek Greenway. 31 00:01:12,430 --> 00:01:15,360 So, the current lift system that we have right now 32 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:17,450 has a series of clips or hooks 33 00:01:17,450 --> 00:01:20,030 that's attached to a steel cable, 34 00:01:20,030 --> 00:01:22,640 and people sit down on the tube 35 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:25,370 and they clip on to these hooks, 36 00:01:25,370 --> 00:01:27,150 which then carries them up the hill, 37 00:01:27,150 --> 00:01:29,140 as they're sitting on the tube. 38 00:01:29,140 --> 00:01:31,933 This system works better than the previous system, 39 00:01:32,962 --> 00:01:34,940 which in the past, we just had a rope that you had to 40 00:01:36,735 --> 00:01:37,660 hold onto as you went up the hill, and as you can imagine, 41 00:01:37,660 --> 00:01:40,820 a lot of people slipped as they were going up the hill. 42 00:01:40,820 --> 00:01:43,480 So, we've only had this system in place a few years, 43 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,300 but we have run into several issues 44 00:01:45,300 --> 00:01:48,000 with this existing tube hill lift system 45 00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:51,850 that has caused us to reconsider purchasing a new lift. 46 00:01:51,850 --> 00:01:54,190 We did buy that previous lift, 47 00:01:54,190 --> 00:01:56,180 the one we currently have, used. 48 00:01:56,180 --> 00:01:58,930 So, it was a fairly economical purchase, 49 00:01:58,930 --> 00:02:01,430 when we acquired it a few years ago. 50 00:02:01,430 --> 00:02:03,130 So, as most of you know, 51 00:02:03,130 --> 00:02:07,720 we don't have snow making equipment at Triangle Hill. 52 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,410 Therefore, we are reliant on Mother Nature 53 00:02:10,410 --> 00:02:13,110 and we can only open when there's adequate snow. 54 00:02:13,110 --> 00:02:15,110 But we've found with the current lift system 55 00:02:15,110 --> 00:02:18,170 is that it requires a large base of snow 56 00:02:18,170 --> 00:02:22,070 under the cable to operate properly. 57 00:02:22,070 --> 00:02:25,750 On nearly a daily basis, our staff does have to go out there 58 00:02:25,750 --> 00:02:29,290 and shovel snow onto that lift hill, 59 00:02:29,290 --> 00:02:33,270 just so that we have enough snow to open the facility up. 60 00:02:33,270 --> 00:02:37,950 In addition, if it reaches temperatures over 35 degrees, 61 00:02:37,950 --> 00:02:39,600 the snow becomes slushy 62 00:02:39,600 --> 00:02:41,660 and the lift system doesn't work properly, 63 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:43,270 so we do have to shut down the hill 64 00:02:43,270 --> 00:02:45,870 whenever it reaches about 35 degrees, 65 00:02:45,870 --> 00:02:48,630 even if there's adequate snow on the hill. 66 00:02:48,630 --> 00:02:51,240 So, over the last three years, 67 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:52,750 we do estimate that there were 68 00:02:52,750 --> 00:02:57,040 46 days where there wasn't enough snow to sled 69 00:02:57,040 --> 00:02:59,610 or it was warm enough that you could still sled, 70 00:02:59,610 --> 00:03:01,270 but we had to close the facility 71 00:03:01,270 --> 00:03:04,255 just because the current lift system wasn't functioning 72 00:03:04,255 --> 00:03:06,900 'cause of lack of snow or it was too warm. 73 00:03:06,900 --> 00:03:08,950 Thew new system that we'd like to 74 00:03:08,950 --> 00:03:11,070 switch to is a conveyor belt system, 75 00:03:11,070 --> 00:03:13,930 where the user stands on the conveyor belt, 76 00:03:13,930 --> 00:03:16,500 holding onto their tube rope, 77 00:03:16,500 --> 00:03:18,700 and then they ride it up to the top of the hill 78 00:03:18,700 --> 00:03:21,640 as they're standing holding the tube behind them. 79 00:03:21,640 --> 00:03:23,440 So, I research showed that this is 80 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,490 quickly becoming common practice 81 00:03:25,490 --> 00:03:28,570 for most tubing and ski hills. 82 00:03:28,570 --> 00:03:30,190 Approximately five years ago, 83 00:03:30,190 --> 00:03:33,370 Kewaunee has a similar tubing hill system 84 00:03:33,370 --> 00:03:35,170 and they switched their lift system from 85 00:03:35,170 --> 00:03:38,170 a clip-on system to a conveyor belt system. 86 00:03:38,170 --> 00:03:39,270 We reached out to them 87 00:03:39,270 --> 00:03:41,984 and they love this conveyor belt system. 88 00:03:41,984 --> 00:03:44,820 They've indicated that this new system 89 00:03:44,820 --> 00:03:47,490 increases the lift capacity by three to four 90 00:03:47,490 --> 00:03:50,330 times the capacity of the clip lift system. 91 00:03:50,330 --> 00:03:53,160 So, you can actually get people up the hill much faster, 92 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:55,130 with this conveyor belt system 93 00:03:55,130 --> 00:03:57,180 than what we have out there now. 94 00:03:57,180 --> 00:03:59,870 And I did go out to Kewaunee last year on my own, 95 00:03:59,870 --> 00:04:02,380 with my family, and I can attest to that. 96 00:04:02,380 --> 00:04:04,740 I only had to wait a few minutes at the most, 97 00:04:04,740 --> 00:04:06,841 even though there were huge lines. 98 00:04:06,841 --> 00:04:10,240 Whereas at Baird Creek, on a busy day, 99 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:13,783 you could wait 15, 20 minutes to use the lift once. 100 00:04:14,670 --> 00:04:16,420 Which is frustrating to some people. 101 00:04:16,420 --> 00:04:17,810 And some people on nice days, 102 00:04:17,810 --> 00:04:19,320 they just choose to walk up the hill, 103 00:04:19,320 --> 00:04:21,910 instead of waiting that long for the lift. 104 00:04:21,910 --> 00:04:25,360 So, we did research this quite a bit 105 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:27,610 to see what companies were out there. 106 00:04:27,610 --> 00:04:29,470 To get competitive quotes. 107 00:04:29,470 --> 00:04:31,330 And we only found two companies 108 00:04:31,330 --> 00:04:34,081 that provide this type of a system. 109 00:04:34,081 --> 00:04:37,870 And one of those companies is located out of the country. 110 00:04:37,870 --> 00:04:39,930 So, most of the tubing hills 111 00:04:39,930 --> 00:04:41,760 and ski hills we reached out to, 112 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:45,210 by far, the vast majority of them have decided 113 00:04:45,210 --> 00:04:47,333 to purchase the system from Magic Carpet Lifts, 114 00:04:47,333 --> 00:04:49,890 which is a United States company. 115 00:04:49,890 --> 00:04:52,380 For the sole reason that they didn't want to 116 00:04:52,380 --> 00:04:55,108 work with a company from outside of the States. 117 00:04:55,108 --> 00:04:59,200 They were afraid of running into problems with tech support 118 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:02,070 and also if the lift breaks down mid-season, 119 00:05:02,070 --> 00:05:04,360 and you have to order new parts, 120 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,110 getting those replacement parts in a quick manner 121 00:05:07,110 --> 00:05:09,420 from overseas would be difficult. 122 00:05:09,420 --> 00:05:12,480 And we've run into those same situations 123 00:05:12,480 --> 00:05:15,130 with out rides at Bay Beach Amusement Park 124 00:05:15,130 --> 00:05:17,200 and we really do not prefer buying 125 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,490 rides from overseas either at Bay Beach. 126 00:05:20,490 --> 00:05:23,120 So, we do have some experience with that. 127 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,390 So, our preference is to do a sole source purchase, 128 00:05:26,390 --> 00:05:27,842 'cause we were not able to find another 129 00:05:27,842 --> 00:05:30,200 company in the United States that 130 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,910 provides a similar lift system, 131 00:05:32,910 --> 00:05:35,060 and every place we reached out to 132 00:05:35,060 --> 00:05:38,280 is very happy with this system that they have. 133 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:40,720 So, like I said, we're proposing 134 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,790 a sole source quote for this purchase 135 00:05:43,790 --> 00:05:46,020 and if you look at the quote summary, 136 00:05:46,020 --> 00:05:50,823 the quote came in $156,340. 137 00:05:51,750 --> 00:05:55,500 Which I believe also included the cost 138 00:05:55,500 --> 00:06:00,500 of a hand rail along one side, which is nice to have, 139 00:06:00,640 --> 00:06:02,520 so that somebody doesn't lost their 140 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:05,210 balance as they go up the lift. 141 00:06:05,210 --> 00:06:09,790 So, this definitely fits in our budget of $175,000. 142 00:06:09,790 --> 00:06:14,030 We would use the remaining portion for installation costs. 143 00:06:14,030 --> 00:06:15,950 Our crews will be installing this, 144 00:06:15,950 --> 00:06:20,137 but we do have to make some modifications to the lifts, 145 00:06:20,137 --> 00:06:23,010 and the buildings that are there, and the electrical, 146 00:06:23,010 --> 00:06:25,060 in order for this new system to work, 147 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:26,610 but we think we can still get it all done 148 00:06:26,610 --> 00:06:29,980 within our $175,000 budget. 149 00:06:29,980 --> 00:06:32,053 So, I would recommend approval. 150 00:06:34,450 --> 00:06:36,960 - Any questions or comments from anyone? 151 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,960 Alder Wery? 152 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:39,340 - Thanks. 153 00:06:39,340 --> 00:06:42,990 Director, is this for installation for this winter? 154 00:06:42,990 --> 00:06:43,900 - No, it would not be. 155 00:06:43,900 --> 00:06:46,130 The earliest that we could get the system is, 156 00:06:46,130 --> 00:06:49,068 I believe, in May is what the quote says. 157 00:06:49,068 --> 00:06:49,901 - Okay. 158 00:06:49,901 --> 00:06:51,570 - So, this would be for the next snow. 159 00:06:51,570 --> 00:06:52,403 - Oh yeah. 160 00:06:52,403 --> 00:06:53,500 - The next winter season. 161 00:06:53,500 --> 00:06:55,160 - Yeah, I can attest to the waits. 162 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:57,450 We go there as much as we can as well, 163 00:06:57,450 --> 00:06:59,280 and I didn't know about the temperature 164 00:06:59,280 --> 00:07:01,540 and not being able to work it, which would make sense, 165 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:03,120 if we drive by and see it's closed. 166 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:03,993 Now I know why. 167 00:07:05,340 --> 00:07:06,620 Yeah, you can wait quite a while, 168 00:07:06,620 --> 00:07:08,285 waiting for things to get hooked up, 169 00:07:08,285 --> 00:07:09,180 so you can get pulled up. 170 00:07:09,180 --> 00:07:12,940 So, I think this might help increase attendance, 171 00:07:12,940 --> 00:07:13,920 if you don't have to wait as long 172 00:07:13,920 --> 00:07:15,180 to get to the top of the hill. 173 00:07:15,180 --> 00:07:17,335 I try to run up and beat it, 174 00:07:17,335 --> 00:07:18,860 but it can be a pretty steep hill. 175 00:07:18,860 --> 00:07:20,593 So, I never win. 176 00:07:21,657 --> 00:07:22,490 - Yeah. 177 00:07:22,490 --> 00:07:23,323 - I'm for it. 178 00:07:25,820 --> 00:07:27,420 - Any other questions, comments? 179 00:07:28,600 --> 00:07:30,300 My only one was when would it be installed, 180 00:07:30,300 --> 00:07:31,280 but that's been covered. 181 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:33,780 So, I just wanna make sure. 182 00:07:33,780 --> 00:07:35,920 When you reached out to others who used this, 183 00:07:35,920 --> 00:07:40,330 they convey that the conveyor belt is the best way to go? 184 00:07:40,330 --> 00:07:41,533 - That's exactly right. 185 00:07:44,360 --> 00:07:45,510 - I'll take a motion... 186 00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:48,630 Oh well, actually it's kind of related, 187 00:07:48,630 --> 00:07:51,930 but not exactly on-topic, but I think I can squeeze it in. 188 00:07:51,930 --> 00:07:53,483 Snow making machine. 189 00:07:55,530 --> 00:07:58,120 Is it look like that will be happening soon? 190 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:59,360 How expensive are they? 191 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,009 - We are researching that right now. 192 00:08:02,009 --> 00:08:02,842 - Okay. 193 00:08:02,842 --> 00:08:03,675 - We hope to bring our research 194 00:08:03,675 --> 00:08:07,320 to a future capital improvement plan for discussion. 195 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:09,840 Snow making equipment, what I can tell you about it, 196 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,540 from the research we've found, 197 00:08:11,540 --> 00:08:16,540 is that each cannon costs about $25,000 new 198 00:08:17,530 --> 00:08:18,670 and I don't know. 199 00:08:18,670 --> 00:08:22,750 We would need several of them out at the hill. 200 00:08:22,750 --> 00:08:24,380 So, there's the cost for that 201 00:08:24,380 --> 00:08:27,990 and the big cost which has prevented 202 00:08:29,318 --> 00:08:32,010 us in the past was finding a water source. 203 00:08:32,010 --> 00:08:35,240 A lot of places use a pond as a water source. 204 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,110 We can't get a pond there. 205 00:08:37,110 --> 00:08:40,290 So, we would either have to drill a well 206 00:08:40,290 --> 00:08:43,740 and get a pretty significant pump to pump water out, 207 00:08:43,740 --> 00:08:47,010 or we would have to rely on city water system. 208 00:08:47,010 --> 00:08:50,680 And pay for the water just using regular city water. 209 00:08:50,680 --> 00:08:53,400 Which is what we found out that 210 00:08:53,400 --> 00:08:55,160 the Packers do at Titletown. 211 00:08:55,160 --> 00:08:56,850 So, we've reached out to them to see 212 00:08:56,850 --> 00:08:59,010 how much money they spend on their water bills. 213 00:08:59,010 --> 00:09:01,250 We're hoping to get that information 214 00:09:01,250 --> 00:09:03,130 and then share it from there. 215 00:09:03,130 --> 00:09:07,220 But then on top of the snow cannon cost, 216 00:09:07,220 --> 00:09:09,130 you're gonna have to get some grooming equipment, 217 00:09:09,130 --> 00:09:12,890 which is a large tractor to spread the snow evenly 218 00:09:12,890 --> 00:09:14,670 and create sledding lanes though. 219 00:09:14,670 --> 00:09:16,210 And there's an additional cost to that. 220 00:09:16,210 --> 00:09:21,210 So, it's not a cheap endeavor to make snow. 221 00:09:23,620 --> 00:09:25,719 But we'll talk about it at a later date. 222 00:09:25,719 --> 00:09:26,552 - Oh great. 223 00:09:26,552 --> 00:09:27,385 Yep, yep, yep, yep. 224 00:09:27,385 --> 00:09:31,580 The Baird Creek, that wouldn't service somehow for water? 225 00:09:31,580 --> 00:09:33,470 - That is too far away. 226 00:09:33,470 --> 00:09:34,303 - Oh. 227 00:09:34,303 --> 00:09:35,136 - I don't see how we could feasibly 228 00:09:35,136 --> 00:09:36,280 pump water from the creek, 229 00:09:36,280 --> 00:09:38,340 and I don't know if we could get a permit, 230 00:09:38,340 --> 00:09:40,053 which would allow us to do that. 231 00:09:41,690 --> 00:09:42,523 It'd be difficult. 232 00:09:42,523 --> 00:09:43,356 - Okay. 233 00:09:43,356 --> 00:09:44,189 Thanks. 234 00:09:44,189 --> 00:09:45,910 Well, I took us on a sideshow. 235 00:09:45,910 --> 00:09:47,210 My apologies. 236 00:09:47,210 --> 00:09:51,256 Does anybody wanna make a motion to approve? 237 00:09:51,256 --> 00:09:52,520 - Approve. 238 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:53,380 - Second. 239 00:09:53,380 --> 00:09:54,970 - Motion by Alder Weary to approve, 240 00:09:54,970 --> 00:09:56,460 seconded by Alder Gerlach. 241 00:09:56,460 --> 00:09:57,927 All in favor? 242 00:09:57,927 --> 00:09:59,250 - [Participants] Aye. 243 00:09:59,250 --> 00:10:00,600 - Appose? 244 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:03,343 That passes unanimously. 245 00:10:06,220 --> 00:10:08,240 Are we ready for... 246 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:10,280 - We are ready for the next item. 247 00:10:10,280 --> 00:10:11,113 - Okay. 248 00:10:12,300 --> 00:10:13,133 Item number three. 249 00:10:13,133 --> 00:10:14,690 Consideration with possible action 250 00:10:14,690 --> 00:10:17,440 on awarding the purchase of a four street aerial lift truck 251 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:19,790 to the lowest responsive responsible vendor, 252 00:10:19,790 --> 00:10:24,380 not to exceed $204,680. 253 00:10:24,380 --> 00:10:25,520 Dan? 254 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:26,353 - Yes. 255 00:10:26,353 --> 00:10:28,830 So, at the time we put the agenda packet together, 256 00:10:28,830 --> 00:10:30,430 we did not have the quotes in hand. 257 00:10:30,430 --> 00:10:32,090 So, that's why it was written as 258 00:10:32,090 --> 00:10:35,390 lowest responsive responsible vendor 259 00:10:35,390 --> 00:10:37,830 and not actually awarded to a specific vendor. 260 00:10:37,830 --> 00:10:41,100 So, bid opening for the quotes was yesterday. 261 00:10:41,100 --> 00:10:43,070 Today we were able to do some research 262 00:10:43,070 --> 00:10:45,500 and contact some of the low vendors 263 00:10:45,500 --> 00:10:47,950 and ask some additional questions. 264 00:10:47,950 --> 00:10:50,050 And about an hour before the meeting, 265 00:10:50,050 --> 00:10:52,379 I emailed everyone on the committee 266 00:10:52,379 --> 00:10:57,379 the summary of the bids or the quotes, for your review. 267 00:10:57,620 --> 00:10:59,620 For discussion today, 'cause we are able 268 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:02,650 to make a recommendation at today's committee. 269 00:11:02,650 --> 00:11:04,620 Now, what I will do is, 270 00:11:04,620 --> 00:11:07,100 I will put up on the screen the quote summary, 271 00:11:07,100 --> 00:11:09,933 for those of you who have not had chance to see it. 272 00:11:10,890 --> 00:11:13,660 Is everybody able to see that on their screens right now? 273 00:11:13,660 --> 00:11:16,720 If not, I'll try to handle this a different way. 274 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:17,571 - [Lynn Gerlach] Not yet. 275 00:11:17,571 --> 00:11:18,650 - [Randy Scannell] Nothing yet. 276 00:11:18,650 --> 00:11:19,483 - Okay. 277 00:11:19,483 --> 00:11:23,310 What I will do then is, I will share the screen with James 278 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:28,100 and he will try to pull it up on his screen. 279 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:29,667 Give me just one minute. 280 00:11:49,335 --> 00:11:50,168 Thank you. 281 00:11:52,380 --> 00:11:54,030 In just a minute, James should be able 282 00:11:54,030 --> 00:11:56,123 to pull it up on his screen hopefully. 283 00:12:25,061 --> 00:12:26,394 - Maybe we can act it out in charades. 284 00:12:26,394 --> 00:12:28,580 - Can you share the screen, James? 285 00:12:28,580 --> 00:12:29,893 For share screen. 286 00:12:31,737 --> 00:12:32,570 - [Man] Click on the share screen. 287 00:12:32,570 --> 00:12:34,370 - Or we could just open our email 288 00:12:34,370 --> 00:12:35,623 and look at it and you can talk about it. 289 00:12:36,730 --> 00:12:39,650 - Well, it would be good for the public, is the thing. 290 00:12:39,650 --> 00:12:41,000 If it wasn't in the packet. 291 00:12:42,940 --> 00:12:44,890 - You see a share screen at the bottom? 292 00:12:48,138 --> 00:12:51,020 - [Man] Now just click on the quote summary. 293 00:12:51,020 --> 00:12:51,980 - [Randy Scannell] Of course, I mean, 294 00:12:51,980 --> 00:12:53,860 it will be part of the packet for the council, 295 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:54,693 so the public will get a good look at it then, 296 00:12:54,693 --> 00:12:56,360 if you can't get it going now. 297 00:12:56,360 --> 00:12:57,193 - There we go. 298 00:12:59,977 --> 00:13:00,963 See it now? 299 00:13:01,815 --> 00:13:02,648 - [Participants] Yep. 300 00:13:02,648 --> 00:13:03,481 - Okay. 301 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:06,347 All right, so here's a quote summary, 302 00:13:06,347 --> 00:13:08,500 that was provided to us, 303 00:13:08,500 --> 00:13:12,113 and there were four vendors that quoted on this. 304 00:13:12,980 --> 00:13:17,860 Vendor one was the low quote, at $217,524 305 00:13:17,860 --> 00:13:22,860 and it went up to $233,137. 306 00:13:23,060 --> 00:13:25,030 After reviewing the quotes, 307 00:13:25,030 --> 00:13:28,350 vendor one we are not recommending. 308 00:13:28,350 --> 00:13:29,410 If you look at the bottom, 309 00:13:29,410 --> 00:13:34,000 the lead time for vendor one 960 to 990 days, 310 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:38,580 which is close to three years to get that bucket truck. 311 00:13:38,580 --> 00:13:39,790 So, just for that reason, 312 00:13:39,790 --> 00:13:42,170 we're not recommending vendor one. 313 00:13:42,170 --> 00:13:44,868 Then we went to vendor two next. 314 00:13:44,868 --> 00:13:46,860 Their quote was acceptable, 315 00:13:46,860 --> 00:13:49,600 but they did have a few exceptions. 316 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:52,670 So, their equipment was fine and quoted properly, 317 00:13:52,670 --> 00:13:53,930 but they had some exceptions. 318 00:13:53,930 --> 00:13:56,330 And one of the exceptions was the lead time. 319 00:13:56,330 --> 00:14:00,760 If you look at that, it says 360 plus days. 320 00:14:00,760 --> 00:14:02,570 So, we called and asked what that meant 321 00:14:02,570 --> 00:14:06,380 and what that meant is they can't commit to a lead time, 322 00:14:06,380 --> 00:14:09,850 but it's gonna be over 360 days. 323 00:14:09,850 --> 00:14:13,510 They said currently, their lead time is 450 days, 324 00:14:13,510 --> 00:14:16,130 but they cannot lock into a lead time date, 325 00:14:16,130 --> 00:14:18,580 until they're able to secure a chassis, 326 00:14:18,580 --> 00:14:21,390 which we don't know how long that would be. 327 00:14:21,390 --> 00:14:25,030 So, that's kind of a gamble with the lead time. 328 00:14:25,030 --> 00:14:30,030 Secondly, they did put a condition in their quote, 329 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:36,610 that surcharges might apply at the time of the invoice, 330 00:14:36,610 --> 00:14:38,930 based on global economic conditions 331 00:14:38,930 --> 00:14:41,050 and supply chain availability. 332 00:14:41,050 --> 00:14:42,800 And the surcharge amount will be 333 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,350 communicated approximately 30 days prior to invoicing, 334 00:14:46,350 --> 00:14:48,270 which is usually at time of delivery. 335 00:14:48,270 --> 00:14:51,373 So, that raised a red flag in the fact that, 336 00:14:51,373 --> 00:14:55,660 per this quote, they can charge additional fees 337 00:14:55,660 --> 00:14:58,110 based on the economy and availability, 338 00:14:58,110 --> 00:14:59,300 and we're not gonna know that 339 00:14:59,300 --> 00:15:01,760 until a month before it's delivered. 340 00:15:01,760 --> 00:15:03,760 So therefore, we did not feel comfortable 341 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:06,920 with vendor number two for those two reasons. 342 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,050 We then looked at vendor number three 343 00:15:10,050 --> 00:15:12,110 and we feel fully confident that 344 00:15:12,110 --> 00:15:14,190 their piece of equipment is adequate, 345 00:15:14,190 --> 00:15:17,150 will serve our needs, and met all of the specs, 346 00:15:17,150 --> 00:15:20,660 and they did not have any exceptions to the quote. 347 00:15:20,660 --> 00:15:23,880 So, we are recommending going with vendor three, 348 00:15:23,880 --> 00:15:28,880 through USSI Holdings Inc., for a total cost of $231,439 349 00:15:32,200 --> 00:15:35,690 and they are out of Appleton, Wisconsin. 350 00:15:35,690 --> 00:15:37,173 So, they are somewhat local. 351 00:15:38,090 --> 00:15:39,790 As far as budget for this, 352 00:15:39,790 --> 00:15:42,830 funding for the purchase will come from city bonding. 353 00:15:42,830 --> 00:15:46,693 So in 2021, we bonded for several pieces of equipment, 354 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,200 to purchase forestry equipment 355 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:52,340 and we would just like to change things a little bit 356 00:15:52,340 --> 00:15:54,960 differently than what we bonded for back then. 357 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:56,970 And we're changing this primarily 358 00:15:56,970 --> 00:15:58,420 because of the new structure with 359 00:15:58,420 --> 00:16:00,710 the two new forestry two workers, 360 00:16:00,710 --> 00:16:03,730 that this lift truck will be more beneficial 361 00:16:03,730 --> 00:16:06,000 than what we requested funding for. 362 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,760 So, we requested $180,000 towards the purchase 363 00:16:10,760 --> 00:16:13,940 of a Spider lift for the Forestry Department. 364 00:16:13,940 --> 00:16:15,670 And this is a specialty lift that 365 00:16:15,670 --> 00:16:19,020 just reaches out farther than a bucket truck would. 366 00:16:19,020 --> 00:16:20,000 But it's not a truck. 367 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:22,110 It's just a lift that sits on a trailer. 368 00:16:22,110 --> 00:16:26,050 So, really the bucket truck is just a better fit 369 00:16:26,050 --> 00:16:30,380 for the staffing that we have set up for us right now. 370 00:16:30,380 --> 00:16:33,070 So, between that and the trailer for it, 371 00:16:33,070 --> 00:16:37,400 that's about $182,000 right there. 372 00:16:37,400 --> 00:16:42,400 We also requested $35,000 to buy a dirt screener. 373 00:16:42,810 --> 00:16:44,840 After researching that dirt screener, 374 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:47,900 we found out that that really isn't going to work for us, 375 00:16:47,900 --> 00:16:49,750 based on what our assumptions were 376 00:16:49,750 --> 00:16:53,100 when we originally requested that money. 377 00:16:53,100 --> 00:16:56,580 And that leaves us about $10,000 short, 378 00:16:56,580 --> 00:17:00,138 and we are able to come up with that money 379 00:17:00,138 --> 00:17:02,710 because of recent purchases we did... 380 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:08,120 Other equipment we purchased came in cheaper 381 00:17:08,120 --> 00:17:10,260 than what our budgeted line items were. 382 00:17:10,260 --> 00:17:12,870 So, all of the money is coming from 383 00:17:12,870 --> 00:17:17,080 the 2021 bond request for forestry equipment. 384 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:19,870 It's just we're structuring a little bit differently, 385 00:17:19,870 --> 00:17:22,110 but we do have the money in hand. 386 00:17:22,110 --> 00:17:25,990 So, I would recommend approval of vendor number three, 387 00:17:25,990 --> 00:17:30,990 which is USSI Holdings Inc., for a total cost of $231,439. 388 00:17:39,770 --> 00:17:41,497 - Any questions, comments? 389 00:17:43,184 --> 00:17:44,680 - Move to approve. 390 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:45,640 - Second. 391 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,130 - Motion by Alder Wery to approve, 392 00:17:47,130 --> 00:17:48,790 seconded by Alder Gerlach. 393 00:17:48,790 --> 00:17:50,414 All in favor? 394 00:17:50,414 --> 00:17:51,460 - [Participants] Aye. 395 00:17:51,460 --> 00:17:52,293 - Apposed? 396 00:17:53,209 --> 00:17:56,133 I don't know why we need the air to lift the truck. 397 00:17:57,790 --> 00:18:00,720 Why do we want to lift the truck into the air? 398 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:01,553 Aerial lift truck. 399 00:18:01,553 --> 00:18:02,386 Never mind. 400 00:18:02,386 --> 00:18:04,690 On to informational. 401 00:18:04,690 --> 00:18:06,770 - I do not have anything in addition 402 00:18:06,770 --> 00:18:08,433 to add from what's in the report. 403 00:18:09,570 --> 00:18:11,300 - Very good report. 404 00:18:11,300 --> 00:18:13,460 Any questions, comments? 405 00:18:13,460 --> 00:18:14,963 - I read it, it was good. 406 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,783 - Okay, always. 407 00:18:17,780 --> 00:18:20,684 Take a motion to receive and place on file? 408 00:18:20,684 --> 00:18:21,973 - Sold. 409 00:18:21,973 --> 00:18:23,035 - Second 410 00:18:23,035 --> 00:18:25,260 - Motion by Alder Gerlach to receive and place on file, 411 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:26,093 seconded by Alder Wery. 412 00:18:26,093 --> 00:18:27,280 All in favor? 413 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:28,940 - [Participants] Aye. 414 00:18:28,940 --> 00:18:29,773 - Opposed? 415 00:18:29,773 --> 00:18:31,530 Okay, that is received and placed it on file. 416 00:18:31,530 --> 00:18:33,823 Our next meeting is December 15th. 417 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Same time, same back station, same year. 418 00:18:39,480 --> 00:18:44,010 And I'll take a motion to adjourn. 419 00:18:44,010 --> 00:18:45,630 - Move to adjourn. 420 00:18:45,630 --> 00:18:46,580 - Second. 421 00:18:46,580 --> 00:18:48,340 - Motion by Alder Gerlach to adjourn, 422 00:18:48,340 --> 00:18:49,173 seconded by Alder Wery. 423 00:18:49,173 --> 00:18:50,241 All in favor? 424 00:18:50,241 --> 00:18:51,730 - [Participants] Aye. 425 00:18:51,730 --> 00:18:52,563 - Appose? 426 00:18:53,750 --> 00:18:54,583 We'll adjourn it. 427 00:18:54,583 --> 00:18:55,416 Thanks, Dan. 428 00:18:55,416 --> 00:18:56,610 Excellent job everyone. 429 00:18:56,610 --> 00:18:58,970 When do we wanna get together for... 430 00:18:58,970 --> 00:18:59,803 - More fun. 431 00:19:01,150 --> 00:19:01,983 - Brian S. 432 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:05,583 5:30, 5:35? 433 00:19:07,870 --> 00:19:09,230 - Is Steve there? 434 00:19:09,230 --> 00:19:10,063 - Is Steve ready? 435 00:19:10,063 --> 00:19:11,003 - 5:25, according to Steve. 436 00:19:12,170 --> 00:19:13,003 - What is Steve... - I'm sorry? 437 00:19:13,003 --> 00:19:13,836 - What? 438 00:19:13,836 --> 00:19:15,913 - Director Grenier is requesting 5:35. 439 00:19:16,860 --> 00:19:17,960 - 5:35? 440 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:18,793 - Yes. 441 00:19:18,793 --> 00:19:19,761 - Perfect. 442 00:19:19,761 --> 00:19:20,886 - Thanks again. 443 00:19:20,886 --> 00:19:21,719 - Thank you. 444 00:19:21,719 --> 00:19:22,552 - You too. 445 00:19:22,552 --> 00:19:23,385 - Bye. 446 00:19:23,385 --> 00:19:24,218 - Alder Wery? 447 00:19:24,218 --> 00:19:25,051 - Yes? 448 00:19:25,051 --> 00:19:25,980 - Did you hear about the ethics.