1 00:09:51,300 --> 00:11:09,829 [Music] 2 00:11:09,839 --> 00:11:14,150 around this 3 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:15,600 all right i'd like to false awards 4 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:17,519 legacy council committee meeting for 5 00:11:17,519 --> 00:11:20,640 monday february 7th 2022 6 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,120 the first uh committee of public safety 7 00:11:23,120 --> 00:11:24,560 so i'd like to call the public safety 8 00:11:24,560 --> 00:11:26,320 committee to order we have one agenda 9 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:29,440 item that is the 2022 new york state 10 00:11:29,440 --> 00:11:31,760 stock dwi plan grant and i'll be 11 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:33,200 presented by 12 00:11:33,200 --> 00:11:34,800 ac 13 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,399 good evening everybody 14 00:11:36,399 --> 00:11:38,240 here before for acceptance of our new 15 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,880 york state uwi uh enforcement grant it's 16 00:11:40,880 --> 00:11:42,640 an annual grant we get based upon a 17 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:44,480 formula the state uses please don't ask 18 00:11:44,480 --> 00:11:45,600 me a question about the foremost i 19 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:47,680 really don't know they they notify us 20 00:11:47,680 --> 00:11:49,920 each year also do special enforcement so 21 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,680 it's obviously very serious these are 22 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:53,680 bad portions that go out there as well 23 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:55,760 as they have a um 24 00:11:55,760 --> 00:11:57,519 this right here 25 00:11:57,519 --> 00:11:59,200 high visibility controls which are 26 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,480 important because those are ones that we 27 00:12:00,480 --> 00:12:01,760 do around 28 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:03,760 super bowl sunday so far holidays 29 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:06,079 certain holidays just to try to minimize 30 00:12:06,079 --> 00:12:07,680 any people that might be you know 31 00:12:07,680 --> 00:12:10,480 drinking and trying it so 32 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,639 hook up two different categories sixteen 33 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:14,399 thousand thirty eye controls and the 34 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:16,800 rest for high visibility so 35 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:18,880 any questions potentially 36 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:27,350 any questions from our council members 37 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:28,639 is there any other business to fall 38 00:12:28,639 --> 00:12:31,519 before the public safety committee 39 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:34,160 if not i'm getting a motion to adjourn 40 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:34,959 so 41 00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:51,269 second how's your favorite 42 00:12:51,279 --> 00:12:53,200 sorry about that working together i'd 43 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:54,720 like to call to order city development 44 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:56,240 and planning we have 12 items on the 45 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,720 agenda the first item is uh release of 46 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:01,920 easement mayor mccarthy 47 00:13:01,920 --> 00:13:04,959 thank you madam president uh first item 48 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:06,720 deals with uh 49 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:08,639 commonly referred to as the wedgeway 50 00:13:08,639 --> 00:13:10,160 building it's been a point of 51 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:13,360 controversy for a number of uh 52 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:14,560 years 53 00:13:14,560 --> 00:13:16,079 and uh 54 00:13:16,079 --> 00:13:18,560 the team at metroplex has been working 55 00:13:18,560 --> 00:13:20,639 on a number of scenarios 56 00:13:20,639 --> 00:13:23,279 and there is a easement that really has 57 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:25,440 been uh so 58 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:27,440 for all practical purposes no longer 59 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:28,639 needed 60 00:13:28,639 --> 00:13:30,720 their city has now turn over to ray 61 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:31,920 gillin 62 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,160 to go into some of the details would you 63 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:36,320 like to come up here sure 64 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:37,839 see you on camera 65 00:13:37,839 --> 00:13:39,920 that's good i have a face for radio 66 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,519 though 67 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:42,480 thank you 68 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:43,920 we're trying to position the wedgeway 69 00:13:43,920 --> 00:13:45,839 building for development we've had a 70 00:13:45,839 --> 00:13:47,120 great step forward with the city 71 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:48,800 historic commission 72 00:13:48,800 --> 00:13:51,120 enthusiastically and unanimously move 73 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,440 forward to the state historic office a 74 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:54,959 recommendation that'd be listed on the 75 00:13:54,959 --> 00:13:56,880 state historic register 76 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,839 the mayor was advocating for that and 77 00:13:59,839 --> 00:14:01,440 it's going to be on considerable 78 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:03,040 placement on the historic register by 79 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:04,880 the state on march 10th 80 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:06,560 so that was an important step to ready 81 00:14:06,560 --> 00:14:08,399 the building for development 82 00:14:08,399 --> 00:14:10,079 tonight we're asking your support for 83 00:14:10,079 --> 00:14:11,920 another important step is there there's 84 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,000 an easement on the building that dates 85 00:14:14,000 --> 00:14:16,000 back to 1928 86 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:17,920 on the little parking area next to the 87 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:19,040 building 88 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,680 and um we've worked with colvin chris 89 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:23,199 wallin the mayor 90 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:25,040 it's no longer needed by the city 91 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:27,440 literally dates 1928. 92 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:29,199 uh we need to clean it up because anyone 93 00:14:29,199 --> 00:14:30,800 who wants to come in and redevelop this 94 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:31,680 building 95 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,440 the bank will say oh what about this 96 00:14:33,440 --> 00:14:35,440 easement if they'll cause this problem 97 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:37,680 so the city no longer needs it there are 98 00:14:37,680 --> 00:14:40,320 no city utilities in the easement when 99 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,720 every boulevard got built all utilities 100 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,560 underneath the road are new so there's 101 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,800 no need for this easement 102 00:14:46,800 --> 00:14:48,800 and getting rid of it 103 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:50,880 it's another step small step but very 104 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:52,959 important step to redeveloping 105 00:14:52,959 --> 00:14:54,560 the wedgeway building at the cornerstone 106 00:14:54,560 --> 00:14:56,399 year 107 00:14:56,399 --> 00:15:00,069 any questions 108 00:15:00,079 --> 00:15:02,399 it's not nothing to say a motion 109 00:15:02,399 --> 00:15:05,120 second all those in favor aye aye 110 00:15:05,120 --> 00:15:08,310 thank you all right thank you 111 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,800 next item on the agenda is to authorize 112 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:12,079 the mayor to enter supplemental 113 00:15:12,079 --> 00:15:13,279 agreement number one in the new york 114 00:15:13,279 --> 00:15:15,760 state department of conversation for the 115 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:32,389 pedestrian safety action plan mr wallace 116 00:15:32,399 --> 00:15:34,399 so this is a supplemental agreement we 117 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:37,680 actually uh passed this as a 118 00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:38,639 committee 119 00:15:38,639 --> 00:15:40,720 about two cycles ago however there was 120 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:42,320 an error with it and we thought it would 121 00:15:42,320 --> 00:15:45,279 be easier just to redo it again the 122 00:15:45,279 --> 00:15:47,440 error was is that the 123 00:15:47,440 --> 00:15:49,440 city share the local share was not 124 00:15:49,440 --> 00:15:52,320 included on the draft that i had 125 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:54,639 so if you were to turn to 126 00:15:54,639 --> 00:15:57,440 um i don't know how to say page three 127 00:15:57,440 --> 00:15:59,839 of the handout there is a local pair 128 00:15:59,839 --> 00:16:02,160 um it looks like this yep the back right 129 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,279 here 130 00:16:03,279 --> 00:16:06,880 um where it says 100 nps that's 6 16 8 131 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:10,399 49 that is a local share that we're 132 00:16:10,399 --> 00:16:12,000 going to be uh 133 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:13,519 splitting with metroplex as we move 134 00:16:13,519 --> 00:16:14,560 forward 135 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,880 as this project the psat is also 136 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:18,240 involved with 137 00:16:18,240 --> 00:16:21,440 the city turning j street two-way 138 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,199 by the post office and doing some other 139 00:16:23,199 --> 00:16:24,720 things that were outside the scope but 140 00:16:24,720 --> 00:16:26,320 we thought it would be better to do the 141 00:16:26,320 --> 00:16:27,839 project than one 142 00:16:27,839 --> 00:16:29,680 so we're going to be doing 143 00:16:29,680 --> 00:16:31,360 the federal project as one project 144 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:33,199 trying to accomplish some goals and now 145 00:16:33,199 --> 00:16:36,240 that's reflected on 146 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:37,120 so 147 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:38,480 this wasn't on the report so we've 148 00:16:38,480 --> 00:16:39,920 already identified where this ship will 149 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:41,360 be in the budget we've already budgeted 150 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:43,279 yes yep this is we're using for this 151 00:16:43,279 --> 00:16:45,680 money so every year we either use chips 152 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:47,440 money which is a state allocation or we 153 00:16:47,440 --> 00:16:49,040 use road improvement money which was in 154 00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,120 the budget so we use a combination of 155 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,720 that to do these type of infrastructure 156 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:55,279 projects so there is no new budgeted 157 00:16:55,279 --> 00:16:56,639 items needed to go this was already 158 00:16:56,639 --> 00:16:58,079 incorporated into a bunch of things do 159 00:16:58,079 --> 00:16:59,920 you know what um what percentage the 160 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:01,519 metroplex would pay yeah i believe there 161 00:17:01,519 --> 00:17:03,519 are around 200 000 of this i have to 162 00:17:03,519 --> 00:17:05,280 check up there for the for the j-street 163 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:06,799 portion of it i've been working with 164 00:17:06,799 --> 00:17:08,079 jamie on that 165 00:17:08,079 --> 00:17:10,319 okay okay other questions council 166 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:12,480 members 167 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:14,079 all right it's not possible to entertain 168 00:17:14,079 --> 00:17:15,120 a motion 169 00:17:15,120 --> 00:17:16,839 second almost in 170 00:17:16,839 --> 00:17:20,319 favor okay the next time is to authorize 171 00:17:20,319 --> 00:17:21,839 the issuance of a revocable permit 172 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:25,360 number 664 to j3 properties llc 173 00:17:25,360 --> 00:17:28,079 so this is 174 00:17:28,079 --> 00:17:32,160 a revocable permit 132 gay streak which 175 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,600 you will see a picture of here 176 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:36,559 open 177 00:17:36,559 --> 00:17:39,669 the door 178 00:17:39,679 --> 00:17:42,000 it is for a 179 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:42,960 awning 180 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:44,480 on the awning type in there before 181 00:17:44,480 --> 00:17:46,030 they'd like to 182 00:17:46,030 --> 00:17:55,830 [Music] 183 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:58,480 are there any questions 184 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:04,310 second 185 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,799 the next item on the agenda is uh to 186 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:09,360 declare the city council as lead agency 187 00:18:09,360 --> 00:18:11,360 for a seeker state and golf course at 188 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:13,840 rio p jackson 189 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:15,039 dia 190 00:18:15,039 --> 00:18:18,710 and mr epstein 191 00:18:18,720 --> 00:18:21,120 good evening everyone um the department 192 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,799 of development received a request from 193 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:24,799 spinel properties to change the zoning 194 00:18:24,799 --> 00:18:26,559 of two parcels 195 00:18:26,559 --> 00:18:28,720 from our free multi-family residential 196 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:31,120 to the c5 business history 197 00:18:31,120 --> 00:18:33,679 um this has this this site includes 198 00:18:33,679 --> 00:18:36,400 approximately 54.6 acres that live 199 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:39,039 within the city and it has another 62 200 00:18:39,039 --> 00:18:41,120 acres that are in the town of rotterdam 201 00:18:41,120 --> 00:18:42,400 so it splits between the two 202 00:18:42,400 --> 00:18:44,720 municipalities 203 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,559 the proposed 204 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:49,120 zoning change from the current zoning in 205 00:18:49,120 --> 00:18:52,400 the cities portion is from r3 to the c5 206 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:55,919 and this allows for various uses um 64 207 00:18:55,919 --> 00:18:57,360 different uses that are defined in the 208 00:18:57,360 --> 00:18:59,200 code i think we gave you some 209 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:00,799 information about what those potential 210 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:03,990 uses could be 211 00:19:04,000 --> 00:19:07,679 and the the directly adjacent um to the 212 00:19:07,679 --> 00:19:10,880 parcels here is the r3 multi-family the 213 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:12,640 r1 single family 214 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:14,880 and r101 family residential within the 215 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,799 town of rotterdam 216 00:19:16,799 --> 00:19:18,960 there hasn't been a specific use 217 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:22,160 identified for the property 218 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,080 and access to the site is made via 219 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:25,760 jackson avenue which is a residential 220 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:27,520 street um that begins on the corner of 221 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,360 lawton albany street 222 00:19:29,360 --> 00:19:31,679 so this is really it's on here for 223 00:19:31,679 --> 00:19:32,799 discussion 224 00:19:32,799 --> 00:19:33,600 we 225 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:35,280 understand that this could open up a 226 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:37,120 potential for a variety of retail and 227 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:39,360 office uses has the potential to 228 00:19:39,360 --> 00:19:41,120 increase the tax revenue and local 229 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:43,039 employment in the city and it could be a 230 00:19:43,039 --> 00:19:45,039 catalyst for the revitalization in the 231 00:19:45,039 --> 00:19:46,640 woodlawn neighborhood 232 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,200 but we also need to be you know 233 00:19:49,200 --> 00:19:51,440 able to effectively evaluate the 234 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:52,720 proposal 235 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:54,320 based on 236 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:56,559 the the intended use 237 00:19:56,559 --> 00:19:58,640 so our recommendation is to just we 238 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:00,720 wanted to bring this forward 239 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:01,360 and 240 00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:04,080 start the discussion but we also 241 00:20:04,080 --> 00:20:06,000 understand that more information might 242 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:10,390 be needed before an action is taken 243 00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:11,360 president 244 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:13,440 internal discussions we thought that 245 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:15,520 bringing to the council 246 00:20:15,520 --> 00:20:18,000 again for review and the council at some 247 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,760 point would have to deal with a zoning 248 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:22,640 change one way or the other but the 249 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:23,840 normal pro 250 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:25,600 process would the council refer to the 251 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:26,720 planning commission the planning 252 00:20:26,720 --> 00:20:27,760 commission 253 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,720 reviews it sends back a recommendation 254 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:31,440 to 255 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,200 the council and then the council can act 256 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:38,559 but is in no means bound by what the 257 00:20:38,559 --> 00:20:41,360 planning commission has recommended this 258 00:20:41,360 --> 00:20:43,760 was the uh his outline that there's 259 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,720 still a lot of questions about 260 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,310 this proposal 261 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:51,679 and 262 00:20:51,679 --> 00:20:54,159 i think probably at this point the best 263 00:20:54,159 --> 00:20:56,880 way would you work with mr coldin 264 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:58,400 and if you're so inclined and the rest 265 00:20:58,400 --> 00:21:00,559 of the council selling client would be 266 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:04,159 to draft a letter or some correspondence 267 00:21:04,159 --> 00:21:06,799 with the proposed developer 268 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:09,440 outlining uh some of the areas where 269 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:12,080 we'd like more information 270 00:21:12,080 --> 00:21:13,919 work with them to put that information 271 00:21:13,919 --> 00:21:15,440 together and then to be able to come 272 00:21:15,440 --> 00:21:16,880 back with a 273 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,360 firmer proposal and again the 274 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:20,799 first step would be 275 00:21:20,799 --> 00:21:21,760 doing 276 00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:24,640 a lead agency for seeker but that also 277 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:26,799 trips an eis 278 00:21:26,799 --> 00:21:28,480 review 279 00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:29,600 which 280 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,440 there's a lot of questions on that 281 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,720 traffic 282 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,120 uh water and sewer 283 00:21:35,120 --> 00:21:37,360 uh other environmental issues that would 284 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:39,440 come up that are still 285 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:42,840 very vague in this in under the c5 286 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:45,520 proposal i personally feel that it opens 287 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:47,840 up too many options 288 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:48,559 that 289 00:21:48,559 --> 00:21:50,320 would have negative 290 00:21:50,320 --> 00:21:52,720 connotations 291 00:21:52,720 --> 00:21:53,760 for 292 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,840 some of the adjacent property owners in 293 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,080 that area of the city as a whole an 294 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:00,240 absent that being able to be narrowed 295 00:22:00,240 --> 00:22:02,000 down into something that i think would 296 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,760 be more acceptable 297 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:05,440 uh i think we should just move in a 298 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,440 slower manner and a little bit more 299 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:09,600 cautiously approach it 300 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:11,120 i have to i tend to agree with that i 301 00:22:11,120 --> 00:22:12,320 didn't look through all the information 302 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:14,159 that was sent and there is no specific 303 00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:16,080 use at this point and we actually talked 304 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:18,320 about this in the pmc a couple of weeks 305 00:22:18,320 --> 00:22:20,480 ago and in order to actually move it to 306 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:21,520 the planning committee they need to know 307 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,280 what's being planned and that is not has 308 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,200 not been outlined in here so i would 309 00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,280 have to agree that we would um to send a 310 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:28,880 letter to you know 311 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:30,880 to ask for additional information 312 00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:32,640 um i think that would be uh we want to 313 00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,720 go cautiously 314 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,320 rather than move forward in direction 315 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,559 that we then can't um you know retract 316 00:22:38,559 --> 00:22:40,799 uh something and at this point in time 317 00:22:40,799 --> 00:22:42,320 the neighborhood also i've heard from 318 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,000 the neighborhood that they have concerns 319 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:45,520 about what's going to be there so we 320 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:46,880 need to be able to be in a position to 321 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,960 be very specific and answering to our 322 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,880 residents to say what's going to happen 323 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,320 in that particular neighborhood and we 324 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,320 don't have that at this point in time so 325 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,320 i think we definitely should um do that 326 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,480 but i i welcome certainly uh input from 327 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,559 other council members and their views on 328 00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:02,799 this 329 00:23:02,799 --> 00:23:04,240 mr um 330 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,960 no no i i have to agree with you 331 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:07,280 i both uh 332 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,120 party and doing this let's hold it let's 333 00:23:09,120 --> 00:23:10,880 get all information together before we 334 00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:12,400 do anything 335 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,520 because i want to mention the 336 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:15,120 neighborhood and the resident needs to 337 00:23:15,120 --> 00:23:15,919 know 338 00:23:15,919 --> 00:23:17,919 what is the intended use 339 00:23:17,919 --> 00:23:20,240 and what is going to be placed there 340 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:21,919 we just can't disapprove something we 341 00:23:21,919 --> 00:23:24,400 have to have a blanket uh 342 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:26,880 you know and then all of a sudden uh 343 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,240 things are being built there and we have 344 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,039 no say and control what is going there 345 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:32,799 so i agree with that 346 00:23:32,799 --> 00:23:35,510 anyone else 347 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,039 so what we'll do with this agenda item 348 00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:38,480 and we don't have to move anything and 349 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:39,840 actually the other two that come after 350 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:40,480 it 351 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:41,840 we wouldn't have to do anything we just 352 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,600 um put together the letter to send to 353 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,360 the developer asking outlining the 354 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,440 questions that we have regarding this i 355 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:48,799 don't know if other council members had 356 00:23:48,799 --> 00:23:49,919 an opportunity to look through because 357 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:51,360 there was a lot of information that was 358 00:23:51,360 --> 00:23:53,279 provided but take the opportunity to 359 00:23:53,279 --> 00:23:54,960 look through any questions that you want 360 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,600 to have answered we can make sure we um 361 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:00,559 put forth in that letter so a 362 00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:02,559 question just so are we going to are we 363 00:24:02,559 --> 00:24:04,880 going to i'm as put but you put that 364 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,159 letter together are we going to talk 365 00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:08,240 with the residents of the area to see if 366 00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:09,760 they have any questions that they wanted 367 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,080 to get answered specifically from my my 368 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,720 understanding is that there is a meeting 369 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:16,080 with they've called the neighborhood 370 00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,760 meeting on march 2nd 371 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:19,840 and they want questions answered which 372 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,600 we don't have answers to right now so 373 00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:23,279 between now and then maybe we will have 374 00:24:23,279 --> 00:24:24,960 answers but i still think we should you 375 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,799 know we would they would go home with 376 00:24:26,799 --> 00:24:28,640 their meeting and appear invited 377 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:30,799 we would be there um and that's a good 378 00:24:30,799 --> 00:24:32,080 actually a good point to say any 379 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:33,520 questions that they have maybe and we 380 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:36,159 can format in the letter um so now this 381 00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:37,840 is the public document um they should be 382 00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:39,679 able to review it as well 383 00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:43,679 and president mr cohen thank you um 384 00:24:43,679 --> 00:24:46,159 one of the things that we had an 385 00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:48,559 opportunity to speak obviously with mrs 386 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:50,480 mrofstein and other folks in development 387 00:24:50,480 --> 00:24:53,039 as well as marion mccarthy 388 00:24:53,039 --> 00:24:54,320 we really need to take a look at what 389 00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,720 the most intensive use of 390 00:24:56,720 --> 00:24:59,120 the proper with the most intensive use 391 00:24:59,120 --> 00:25:01,760 under the proposed zoning change would be 392 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:04,480 um and see how that corresponds with you 393 00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:06,320 know not just a comprehensive plan uh 394 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,039 that the city has but also uh as missy 395 00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:10,720 mentioned um and mayor mccarthy 396 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,840 mentioned the um the environmental 397 00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:15,120 impact um there are certain things that 398 00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,279 were submitted in the application that 399 00:25:17,279 --> 00:25:18,640 you know it's obviously a really good 400 00:25:18,640 --> 00:25:20,159 step forward in terms of what was 401 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:21,360 submitted but there's some follow-up 402 00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:25,120 that's needed as you indicated um so mr 403 00:25:25,120 --> 00:25:27,440 and i we're going to 404 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:28,400 kind of 405 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:31,440 chat tomorrow about recommendations for 406 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,559 the city council because the city 407 00:25:32,559 --> 00:25:34,159 council at some point would act as lead 408 00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,000 agency 409 00:25:36,000 --> 00:25:37,279 for 410 00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:40,000 follow-up with the developer 411 00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:45,029 and we did provide some of those notes 412 00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:46,400 all right well so then we'll just be 413 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:47,840 working with corporation capital and the 414 00:25:47,840 --> 00:25:49,440 department of developers formulate that 415 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,750 left 416 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,520 thank you thank you very much and so 417 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:54,880 that means the other two items on the 418 00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:56,880 agenda which are also related to this we 419 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:58,320 will not be taking any action on those 420 00:25:58,320 --> 00:25:59,840 either 421 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:00,720 all right 422 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:03,120 okay i think i think you do have another 423 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:04,320 one thank you 424 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:07,120 so um so we're skipping right to 425 00:26:07,120 --> 00:26:14,710 item number eight um 426 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,640 just a reminder for the public hearing 427 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,520 on the south at barrett uh 428 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,159 which will be february 14th january 14th 429 00:26:22,159 --> 00:26:24,960 yeah absolutely 430 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:27,520 okay and the next item is jerry barrell 431 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,640 harp funding allocation in here 432 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,480 um so we've got a rebuilding plan 433 00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,720 underway for a splash pad area 434 00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,480 basketball court including improvements 435 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:38,559 in jerry brooke park 436 00:26:38,559 --> 00:26:41,279 outreach for the development of the plan 437 00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,120 indicated that lighting was a priority 438 00:26:43,120 --> 00:26:44,799 for area residents to increase the 439 00:26:44,799 --> 00:26:46,640 visibility and safety 440 00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,640 but the lighting is currently outside of 441 00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,360 the budget that we have for the park so 442 00:26:51,360 --> 00:26:54,320 we did um we did propose an application 443 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:56,799 as part of the arc of funding and it was 444 00:26:56,799 --> 00:26:58,640 for 120 000 445 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,799 members to install student internal 446 00:27:00,799 --> 00:27:02,559 lighting to complement the current 447 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,400 redevelopment of the park 448 00:27:04,400 --> 00:27:05,440 um 449 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,600 so we are asking just because of the 450 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,440 timeline of the project 451 00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:12,240 um we're kind of in the design phase now 452 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,240 and we're hoping to move to construction 453 00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:19,279 you know by the summer um so we are we were requesting that we could 454 00:27:19,279 --> 00:27:20,640 utilize 455 00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:21,679 um 456 00:27:21,679 --> 00:27:24,799 the funding from the american rescue 457 00:27:24,799 --> 00:27:26,000 plan to 458 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:29,279 supplement the current grant we have to 459 00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:31,440 uh to move the 460 00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:33,039 project 461 00:27:33,039 --> 00:27:33,200 all forward 462 00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:34,240 could you tell us a little bit more 463 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,640 about the practical world and others so 464 00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,000 there's going to be about four hundred 465 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:39,200 thousand advantages that would be 466 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:40,960 additional 120. correct so could you 467 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:42,559 just kind of give a quick overview of 468 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:43,520 what the 469 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:46,399 yeah so um so the park improvements it 470 00:27:46,399 --> 00:27:48,640 was initiated by a grant that was 471 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,320 proposed to the office of parks and 472 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:52,080 historic preservation so it's a state 473 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:55,440 grant that we have for 205 000 474 00:27:55,440 --> 00:27:57,600 we also have supplemental funding which 475 00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,440 we're going to put forward to accept 476 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,600 from the county for 200 000 477 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,640 um and then the lighting um is kind of 478 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,240 in addition to that 479 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,480 um so it was something that we we hoped 480 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,880 we could move forward through arpa um 481 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,640 but i know that that process is still 482 00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:14,480 being determined um but we're just 483 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:16,399 bringing it forward um with the 484 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,399 understanding that it's a project that's 485 00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:19,919 underway and it's something that we're 486 00:28:19,919 --> 00:28:21,679 trying to get done this year 487 00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:23,520 um and so that was really where the 488 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,029 request came from 489 00:28:27,039 --> 00:28:28,080 so um 490 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,559 my first concern was um my first thought 491 00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:32,159 was looking at this is that we you know 492 00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:34,080 we said we're developing a plan we put 493 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:36,080 out applications et cetera but now we're 494 00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:38,159 starting to spend down when at the last 495 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,480 meeting uh mr ferrari said we were 12 496 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,120 million at that time so i do have 497 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:44,320 concerns that you know that we're 498 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:45,520 spending down and when we get through 499 00:28:45,520 --> 00:28:47,520 our process where we're actually 500 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,440 um going to be 501 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:50,880 looking at applications and funding 502 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:52,159 applications we're spending down 503 00:28:52,159 --> 00:28:53,919 spending out and it's less money it 504 00:28:53,919 --> 00:28:56,399 seems like most of the money is gone um 505 00:28:56,399 --> 00:28:58,720 to city projects the other question i 506 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,880 have for you actually is that um 507 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:02,799 so this is street lighting that we're 508 00:29:02,799 --> 00:29:04,880 talking about and it's also internal to 509 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,520 the park so around the court and 510 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,039 along some of the pathways that are 511 00:29:09,039 --> 00:29:11,279 internal to the park so my question 512 00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:13,840 would be why wouldn't this um qualify 513 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,159 for smart cities since its lighting and 514 00:29:16,159 --> 00:29:17,679 part of the smart city lighting is 515 00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:20,000 putting leds around why this isn't 516 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:21,760 something that we could be we could out 517 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:24,640 um from that 518 00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,600 it's we could look at that again most of 519 00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,720 the one has been on actual streets 520 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,440 uh in the fixtures going 521 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,919 uh on the conversion of the coker 522 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:37,919 headlights then most of the money we've 523 00:29:37,919 --> 00:29:40,000 spent more recently 524 00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:40,880 is 525 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,120 in lane fiber so that we have the 526 00:29:43,120 --> 00:29:46,159 network to connect these devices and 527 00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:47,679 sensors 528 00:29:47,679 --> 00:29:51,200 so i mean there's we set aside a few 529 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,600 million so is there a 120 dollars that 530 00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,760 we i know that we did part uh lights in 531 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,399 hill horse park so to me it makes sense 532 00:29:58,399 --> 00:30:00,240 if we're if we're doing 533 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,480 smart uh city lighting all over the city 534 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:03,679 that this is just something that just 535 00:30:03,679 --> 00:30:05,039 makes sense that we would and this is 536 00:30:05,039 --> 00:30:07,520 lighting that we would be able to um use 537 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,799 those funds as opposed to um using our 538 00:30:10,799 --> 00:30:11,840 phones 539 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:12,720 so 540 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,559 you know that's that's my thought that 541 00:30:14,559 --> 00:30:16,399 we would try to use some of that fun and 542 00:30:16,399 --> 00:30:18,000 these lights that were not my 543 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:19,279 understanding is that they would just be 544 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:22,320 standard fixtures and not have any of 545 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,080 the 546 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:26,159 acoustic or 547 00:30:26,159 --> 00:30:28,159 optical sensors 548 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:29,760 on them 549 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:30,799 so 550 00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,399 are you saying that in that case that 551 00:30:32,399 --> 00:30:34,720 funding can't be spent 552 00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,320 i'd saying it can't be spent but it's 553 00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:38,080 not under the area where we're going to 554 00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:42,389 get the most impact out of those dollars 555 00:30:42,399 --> 00:30:44,320 but if it's possible because you know 556 00:30:44,320 --> 00:30:46,000 again i know there's led lights that 557 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,679 have been already you know put in part 558 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:49,679 of the city without the analyticals as 559 00:30:49,679 --> 00:30:52,720 part of it and it just to me um makes 560 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,880 sense that we would you know use smart 561 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:55,760 city 562 00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,679 funding for this and not continue to 563 00:30:57,679 --> 00:30:59,600 spend down on the argos so 564 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:02,000 all the leds that we put in 565 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,799 are part of the mesh network 566 00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,200 for the national grid 567 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:08,720 that 568 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,480 part of the package this type of 569 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,700 lighting would not 570 00:31:11,700 --> 00:31:13,519 [Music] 571 00:31:13,519 --> 00:31:17,830 be part of that but 572 00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,679 i'd like to know the cost differential 573 00:31:19,679 --> 00:31:21,440 between having the standard kind of 574 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:22,799 lighting that we would be putting into 575 00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:23,840 parks 576 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:27,120 versus the lighting that we 577 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,000 are the led sensor lighting lights that 578 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:31,360 we're putting in 579 00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:34,080 i don't know if we can price these for 580 00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,000 any of those fixtures 581 00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,470 uh 582 00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,000 you know and sometimes it has to do with 583 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,080 just i think the electrical connection 584 00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:43,919 like to where the lighting is going 585 00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:45,519 that's what a lot of the cost tends to 586 00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:46,799 be 587 00:31:46,799 --> 00:31:48,320 you know i would say for jerry grill 588 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:49,840 since they're internal to the park you 589 00:31:49,840 --> 00:31:51,679 have to get the power there 590 00:31:51,679 --> 00:31:52,720 and that's going to be some of your 591 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:54,399 costs and then of course the fixtures as 592 00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:55,360 well 593 00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,960 but right now it's not we haven't moved 594 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:00,880 forward we don't have the design yet 595 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,159 because you know we're waiting to see 596 00:32:02,159 --> 00:32:03,760 where we can um 597 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:07,200 get the funding from but um 598 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,440 but yeah i understand that there's a 599 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,080 lot of decisions that are you know 600 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,919 in front of everyone and 601 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:16,480 we're just trying to do our best to 602 00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:18,159 you know pair things 603 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:21,279 um most effectively so 604 00:32:21,279 --> 00:32:23,440 i guess i'm just trying to do you think 605 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:26,240 that it would be more than 120 000 606 00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:28,559 to move from the standard lighting 607 00:32:28,559 --> 00:32:31,600 to the smart cities lighting 608 00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:34,080 i don't know i i'm not sure 609 00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,559 um the estimate came from you know the 610 00:32:36,559 --> 00:32:38,559 design team as like a 611 00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,000 just a general estimate we didn't 612 00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:42,080 anticipate we would exceed that amount 613 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,279 yeah um 614 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,440 but but again it's not fully designed 615 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:46,320 because 616 00:32:46,320 --> 00:32:48,320 yeah so but we could that's something we 617 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,640 could we could look into and 618 00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:51,919 you know 619 00:32:51,919 --> 00:32:54,480 see what that difference is 620 00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,440 mr toro good evening thank you 621 00:32:57,440 --> 00:33:00,240 um my concern is um you know by the time 622 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,960 we get our committee in in place um it's 623 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,760 gonna be maybe past summer i don't know 624 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:07,679 but it's well it's it's gonna be a 625 00:33:07,679 --> 00:33:09,600 process and here you know the kids are 626 00:33:09,600 --> 00:33:11,039 going to be out residents are going to 627 00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:12,720 be out in the park with no lighting and 628 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:13,840 it's something that needs to move 629 00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,399 forward and move ahead so that that's my 630 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:17,919 only concern 631 00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:19,840 no i i share that i just i'm just 632 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:20,960 talking about where the funding can come 633 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:25,990 from right i mean to come now right 634 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,159 yes mrs williams uh so mr can you just 635 00:33:28,159 --> 00:33:30,080 confirm was there a formal 636 00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,320 request fund for this project submitted 637 00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,240 prior to the end of the deadline yes 638 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:35,679 there was a break so i would have to 639 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:36,960 agree with 640 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:38,799 council president porterfield that we've 641 00:33:38,799 --> 00:33:40,880 made promises to the community that we 642 00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:43,279 would stand up this committee and allow 643 00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:44,720 them the opportunity to voice their 644 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:46,720 opinions regarding the expenditure of 645 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:47,919 this arkham money so i don't think it's 646 00:33:47,919 --> 00:33:50,480 necessarily the council saying no but 647 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,640 it's just that if the city would choose 648 00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:54,399 to move forward with this project doing 649 00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:56,640 that collaboratively so i think we do 650 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,880 owe a responsibility to ensure that 651 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,519 outside of the lost revenue monies that 652 00:34:01,519 --> 00:34:04,080 we put forth to the city and outside of 653 00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:06,000 expedient purchases to support some of 654 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:06,720 our 655 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,919 ems services uh that we should maintain 656 00:34:09,919 --> 00:34:11,839 the bulk of that funding for them to be 657 00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:13,839 able to make the decisions that they 658 00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:17,589 see best for the city 659 00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:18,560 so 660 00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,159 yeah i have a question so am i 661 00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:22,079 understanding correctly that we did use 662 00:34:22,079 --> 00:34:23,280 this uh 663 00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,800 money for lighting in another park 664 00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:25,919 before 665 00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:27,359 there was some smart the mayor could 666 00:34:27,359 --> 00:34:28,720 probably speak to that more about the 667 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,359 lighting that went into hillhurst 668 00:34:31,359 --> 00:34:33,760 sorry sure i was talking i was inquiring 669 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,399 about the money that was spent um in 670 00:34:36,399 --> 00:34:38,320 hillhurst park to do the lighting and we 671 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,240 tapped into this uh to smart cities 672 00:34:40,240 --> 00:34:42,000 money to do that 673 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:43,040 some of the 674 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,280 features on that are smart city lighting 675 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:47,839 the other ones are put in by national 676 00:34:47,839 --> 00:34:48,800 grid 677 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,440 under the rev demonstration project 678 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,440 the replacement of the 679 00:34:53,440 --> 00:35:00,390 cobra light fixtures that were there 680 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:02,560 mr palmini yeah i think it's time to 681 00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,160 move forward with this we've heard from 682 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,079 years from residents that live in the 683 00:35:06,079 --> 00:35:09,520 area that the lighting is a concern 684 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,320 delaying it doesn't help anything 685 00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:13,440 um 686 00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,520 it'll be delayed at least a month if not 687 00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:16,560 two 688 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,920 more likely closer to two 689 00:35:19,920 --> 00:35:21,599 and residents 690 00:35:21,599 --> 00:35:23,599 that live in that area 691 00:35:23,599 --> 00:35:24,560 are 692 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,560 by far 693 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:27,839 very well 694 00:35:27,839 --> 00:35:30,240 in favor of the lights so i think it's 695 00:35:30,240 --> 00:35:33,280 time to move forward get the lights done 696 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,520 that way we're not encroaching too far 697 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:36,640 in the summer 698 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,880 and then the safety issue 699 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:40,160 hopefully 700 00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,599 gets taken care of and it also becomes a 701 00:35:43,599 --> 00:35:45,920 better environment for the kids that are 702 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,200 using it 703 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:50,960 we talk about investing in our neighborhoods and our parks all 704 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:52,960 the time investing our youth 705 00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,760 this is an opportunity we're talking 120 706 00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:56,800 000 707 00:35:56,800 --> 00:35:59,359 we've heard about this issue for years 708 00:35:59,359 --> 00:36:04,390 let's move forward 709 00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,119 oh sure so so what are we saying due to 710 00:36:07,119 --> 00:36:08,320 because we're still in the process of 711 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:10,480 kind of putting together um 712 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:13,040 the committees around our money 713 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:14,240 would it be 714 00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:15,760 it you know it doesn't seem like that 715 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,400 using the smart city money uh would 716 00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:19,680 allow us to 717 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,280 you know expedite the process and get it 718 00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:22,480 done faster 719 00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,640 is that what we're saying well the smart 720 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,440 city money is there already there so no 721 00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,040 if we do we have to redesign the 722 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,560 lighting yeah we'd have to have 723 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:32,720 different lights like the reason why i 724 00:36:32,720 --> 00:36:35,200 brought the request i'm sorry i totally 725 00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:36,960 respect and understand the process 726 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,440 that's underway you know for the the 727 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,200 reason i brought the request forward was 728 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:42,480 just because 729 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,400 um i know this is a you know it's a 730 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,640 project that has a lot of support and 731 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,320 we're just trying to fill in the gaps 732 00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,520 that we have in the funding we don't 733 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,359 want to have to value engineer you know 734 00:36:51,359 --> 00:36:53,440 things out and that was really what was 735 00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:55,200 behind it but like i said i do 736 00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,720 understand that you have a process that 737 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,320 you're trying to 738 00:36:58,320 --> 00:36:59,920 you know and trying to look at the 739 00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,240 different funding sources um it's just 740 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:03,760 this particular project is kind of 741 00:37:03,760 --> 00:37:06,079 underway right now um so that's why we 742 00:37:06,079 --> 00:37:10,870 brought it forward 743 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,640 around getting this done so my question 744 00:37:12,640 --> 00:37:14,480 is more like okay if there's a pot of 745 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:15,839 money that is existing that we could 746 00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:17,520 type in to do it and get it done and it 747 00:37:17,520 --> 00:37:20,000 won't um compromise the integrity of the 748 00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,640 our process is is that kind of a win-win 749 00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:26,320 so i'm trying to get feet up and down 750 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,400 please 751 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,079 is all that 752 00:37:30,079 --> 00:37:31,680 money allocated 753 00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:32,370 for 754 00:37:32,370 --> 00:37:34,400 [Music] 755 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,359 i'm not 756 00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:36,800 sure just what 757 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:38,960 is left in terms of what we've 758 00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:41,280 committed for laying the fiber and other 759 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,200 components 760 00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:44,240 we can 761 00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:45,680 review that and give you a number 762 00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:46,800 tomorrow 763 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,680 well um so for me i wouldn't want to 764 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:51,440 move the sport until we knew that i just 765 00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:53,200 i feel very strongly that we should try 766 00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:56,720 to use it um so if it needs more of a 767 00:37:56,720 --> 00:37:58,640 breakdown and we talk about the design 768 00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:00,480 and all that all that information is 769 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:01,920 important to me 770 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,839 and it's equally important too that as 771 00:38:03,839 --> 00:38:05,280 you said something was done in hillhurst 772 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:06,960 and why we can't do something similar in 773 00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:08,960 jerry burrell or around jerry burrell i 774 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,640 need a lot of clarity around why we 775 00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,640 can't use smart city funding for 776 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:15,040 lighting when that's what it's for so 777 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:16,880 um and you know i appreciate what you're 778 00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:18,400 trying to do moving forward and all of 779 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,640 that the lights and jerry burrell 780 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:23,680 were cobrahead fixtures 781 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:29,430 that we paid a fixture charge for 782 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,680 part of the rep demonstration project 783 00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,480 was all those cobrahead lights in the 784 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,720 city have been replaced with led 785 00:38:36,720 --> 00:38:39,760 fixtures so those were ones in 786 00:38:39,760 --> 00:38:41,200 jerry burrell park and they were 787 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,160 replaced just the same way we placed the 788 00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,040 ones out on the streets 789 00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,630 and when were they replaced 790 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:52,640 i think you were at the press conference 791 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:55,430 when they 792 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,480 don't remember the day but that was 793 00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,480 the crew went up and took the fixture 794 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,160 down and 795 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:03,760 replaced it 796 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:05,359 that was still first 797 00:39:05,359 --> 00:39:06,800 yeah i was there for that for hillary 798 00:39:06,800 --> 00:39:09,589 clinton 799 00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,480 these are the ones on the street 800 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:14,800 right are replaced these are ones that 801 00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:16,480 will be in the park 802 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:17,920 and they're going to be more of a 803 00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:19,440 decorative feature 804 00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:22,710 than 805 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:25,040 the overhead cobra lights well this says 806 00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:26,640 street lighting and internal lighting 807 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,400 actually so 808 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,800 the um i don't i don't know what the 809 00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,800 final design or the scope is where 810 00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,320 though yeah i think 811 00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:35,599 we're going to take the opportunity to 812 00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:37,200 look at what's existing 813 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,119 look at what's needed internal to the 814 00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,359 park and if there is any additional you 815 00:39:41,359 --> 00:39:43,119 know street lighting that 816 00:39:43,119 --> 00:39:45,440 is needed in the design that we would we 817 00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,119 would include those but again it was it 818 00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:49,520 was a preliminary thing i think um the 819 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:51,760 design console 820 00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:54,720 said a estimate of nine new fixtures you 821 00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:55,520 know 822 00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,280 but but again we'd have to really look 823 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,359 at what's there and that would be part 824 00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:01,839 of the you know the review so it really 825 00:40:01,839 --> 00:40:04,000 was an estimate um 826 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:04,960 based on 827 00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:07,040 a projected need but still have to do 828 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,720 some more to figure out what exactly is 829 00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,829 needed 830 00:40:11,839 --> 00:40:14,480 anybody so i i would like to actually 831 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:15,680 see the design i know that we're doing 832 00:40:15,680 --> 00:40:16,880 other things there and i've been part of 833 00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:18,400 those meetings and i respect the fact 834 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,240 that you know the community that i 835 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:21,760 happen to live in that community so all 836 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,599 that's fine i just want to make sure 837 00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:25,760 that we do two things that we make sure 838 00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:28,000 that how much what exactly that we need 839 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:29,680 first and foremost and then secondly if 840 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,839 we could find funding even if it's not 841 00:40:31,839 --> 00:40:34,079 all from these smart cities that we can 842 00:40:34,079 --> 00:40:35,760 see if there's other ways to fund it so 843 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:38,480 that we're trying to keep as much money 844 00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:41,200 in the arpa funds as possible 845 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,680 so yes ms patrick well i do have a 846 00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,920 concern that if we wait first of all you 847 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:47,280 brought it to us tonight there must have 848 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,720 been a reason that you thought that we 849 00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:50,160 needed an insurgency in terms of the 850 00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:52,720 rest of the splat i mean having looked 851 00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,440 at the park extensively last summer 852 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,000 clearly the splash park had i mean this 853 00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,000 stuff needs to be fixed for these kids 854 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,040 it's it's it's you know i was over there 855 00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:05,040 when there was a camping session and it 856 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,040 was kind of like what are we doing like 857 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:08,480 we shouldn't even be 858 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,160 letting the kids 859 00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:11,920 you know we're giving them like not a 860 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,400 good situation here so let's upgrade the 861 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:15,680 park so 862 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,280 are you saying you're coming here 863 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,119 tonight 864 00:41:19,119 --> 00:41:20,480 instead of waiting 865 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,480 does that affect the rest of the project 866 00:41:22,480 --> 00:41:25,599 which i thought was almost close to 867 00:41:25,599 --> 00:41:27,920 trying to um you know get the splash pad 868 00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:30,079 get the other stuff done it's just that 869 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,000 originally the lighting it wasn't part 870 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,119 of the scope of work because we didn't 871 00:41:33,119 --> 00:41:34,880 have the funding to do it that was the 872 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:36,480 reason why we put in the request for our 873 00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,480 because we said hey maybe we can you 874 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,640 know get some of this funding to add 875 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,520 this 876 00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,280 amenity you know which is we know is 877 00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:46,720 needed um and and so that that's really 878 00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,800 you know um the reason for bringing it 879 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:50,000 forward tonight is just because the 880 00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,640 design is underway and if you know i 881 00:41:52,640 --> 00:41:54,000 know with orchard park when we ordered 882 00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,440 the lights it was like a three-month run 883 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,359 time exactly so that was really just 884 00:41:57,359 --> 00:41:59,280 where it was coming from um 885 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,520 not trying to undermine the the article 886 00:42:01,520 --> 00:42:03,680 process but just trying to say we 887 00:42:03,680 --> 00:42:05,520 feel that this is a community-supported 888 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:06,480 project 889 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,720 right exactly it definitely is a 890 00:42:08,720 --> 00:42:10,400 community supporting project and we've 891 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,960 heard that loud and clear and i think if 892 00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:14,160 we wait 893 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,520 we could run into a situation where 894 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,599 um 895 00:42:19,599 --> 00:42:21,359 if it goes you know we want to make sure 896 00:42:21,359 --> 00:42:23,760 that the park is safe especially come 897 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,560 summer when children will be 898 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:27,839 i shouldn't just say children i mean 899 00:42:27,839 --> 00:42:29,520 obviously the basketball courts etc i 900 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,839 mean that's not just kids but we need we 901 00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:34,160 need that safety factor of the lights 902 00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:37,200 don't forget that if we if we hold it 903 00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:38,720 what happens if it doesn't get approved 904 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:41,200 during the opera process 905 00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,119 which is also a risk well 906 00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:44,800 i like that we know that the community 907 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:46,560 wants the lights in the park i mean i 908 00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:47,280 think 909 00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:49,680 we're doing involved with all of us 910 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:50,560 so 911 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,720 but let me just let me just say that um 912 00:42:52,720 --> 00:42:54,640 the project is not as close as you're 913 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:56,720 indicating it's not and we started with 914 00:42:56,720 --> 00:42:58,800 a splash pad a couple of years ago 915 00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,880 things happen and actually some of the funding that was for that splash pad 916 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,400 then got moved someplace else so there 917 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,040 was so that happened as well so that's 918 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:08,880 part of the reason we have a deficit 919 00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,240 right now because the the project just 920 00:43:10,240 --> 00:43:12,400 to move forward as quickly as it um 921 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,040 wanted to and so my understanding is 922 00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,079 that design 923 00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:18,079 as miss diaz just said the design is not 924 00:43:18,079 --> 00:43:19,440 even done for the legs it wasn't 925 00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,680 originally a part of it so it's not as 926 00:43:21,680 --> 00:43:24,400 close as that and we're all concerned 927 00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:26,800 about safety i understand that but i 928 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:28,960 just wanted to to refocus this to say 929 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:30,880 yes we want the lights is there other 930 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:32,640 ways we can help fund this as well so we 931 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:34,960 can maintain as much arpa funding as 932 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,200 possible that's really 933 00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:38,960 not denying about the safety or any of 934 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,800 that but can we talk about some other 935 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,319 ways to try to get some funding look at 936 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:44,240 the design what does it mean how much if 937 00:43:44,240 --> 00:43:46,720 any of it at all can be used um from 938 00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,480 smart city money anyway 939 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,119 and maybe it wouldn't be as much so 940 00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:54,560 um and for i'm sorry mr mr farley had 941 00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:56,160 your hand up yeah and i'm just i'm just 942 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:57,200 wondering if i'm asking the same 943 00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:58,720 question a different way here 944 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:02,160 so so um so are we saying that um the 945 00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:04,880 possibility of using smart city money 946 00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,440 will delay the process or why would that 947 00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:09,200 make it longer wouldn't that make it 948 00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:11,040 faster no no 949 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:12,640 i think miss patrick is saying that we 950 00:44:12,640 --> 00:44:14,240 need to do this right now otherwise that 951 00:44:14,240 --> 00:44:15,839 will delay the project and that means 952 00:44:15,839 --> 00:44:17,599 using the ark of funding 953 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,240 but we could potentially use another 954 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:22,560 source of funding well mr mayor mr 955 00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,560 ferrari have said that we we have to 956 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:26,720 look and see what's left so 957 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:29,119 we just need to find out if what what 958 00:44:29,119 --> 00:44:31,280 we're proposing um falls in the 959 00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:40,870 parameters of smart city and if so then we can move and how much we can 960 00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:42,880 that's what i that's what i see how long 961 00:44:42,880 --> 00:44:44,319 i mean where are we with the design 962 00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:45,280 phase 963 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,319 well they're moving into like 964 00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,160 construction documents and i've said 965 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:48,880 like 966 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,200 even though i was very clear we're not 967 00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:53,760 we can't confirm the money for the 968 00:44:53,760 --> 00:44:55,040 lighting but we are going to have it 969 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:56,319 designed 970 00:44:56,319 --> 00:44:57,839 either way because eventually we want to 971 00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:00,079 get the lighting funded and we just 972 00:45:00,079 --> 00:45:01,680 you know 973 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,240 with lead times and everything just we 974 00:45:04,240 --> 00:45:05,920 hope to do it with everything else but 975 00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:07,440 right and it makes sense to do it with 976 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,520 everything else um so where are we with 977 00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,599 the design so would we know in two weeks 978 00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:13,280 would you be able to tell us where we 979 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:14,800 are 980 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:16,560 not you as a designer would that be 981 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:17,920 ready if we came back into which he said 982 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,760 okay here's the design this is exactly 983 00:45:19,760 --> 00:45:21,359 what we need for smart this is exactly 984 00:45:21,359 --> 00:45:23,680 how much lighting i'm not okay i'm not 985 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,760 i'd have to confirm with the consultant 986 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,920 on it might not i could probably get 987 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,520 more information than what i have now 988 00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,040 around a clear 989 00:45:31,040 --> 00:45:32,880 scope of what the lighting would be but 990 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:34,000 in two weeks 991 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:34,800 yeah 992 00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,160 that's that'll i would like to move 993 00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:37,839 forward on this 994 00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:40,160 um for us to get that information but um 995 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:43,829 we have two other committee members so 996 00:45:43,839 --> 00:45:45,359 your input part of me because i have a 997 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:46,560 little power 998 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,119 i said my design my goal is just to to 999 00:45:49,119 --> 00:45:50,560 hold on to this to get the information 1000 00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,319 come back in two weeks before we move 1001 00:45:52,319 --> 00:45:53,520 forward 1002 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:54,800 to see if we can get some funding from 1003 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,839 smart cities to uh you know to help with 1004 00:45:57,839 --> 00:45:59,440 this particular thing and not use as 1005 00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:02,630 much art for funding 1006 00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:04,240 yeah i'm going to agree i have to agree 1007 00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:05,710 with that 1008 00:46:05,710 --> 00:46:07,119 [Music] 1009 00:46:07,119 --> 00:46:08,480 so could you come back to us in two 1010 00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:09,760 weeks with that and you know in the 1011 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,400 meantime you and i can tell um you know 1012 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:14,400 if there's any questions or 1013 00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:15,440 other things 1014 00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:16,960 that we may have that the council may 1015 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:17,760 have 1016 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:20,400 and and council members i you know um 1017 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,400 welcome you if you have questions just 1018 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,160 send an email you can send the email to 1019 00:46:24,160 --> 00:46:25,680 myself to mistia 1020 00:46:25,680 --> 00:46:27,920 um to the mayor and mayor i would ask 1021 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,359 that if we could just look at if there's 1022 00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:30,880 any funding at all that we could use 1023 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:34,560 towards smart cities to supplement this and meet somewhere in 1024 00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:38,550 the middle on that 1025 00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:39,920 all right thank you we'll see you two 1026 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:43,829 weeks i think 1027 00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:45,440 all right 1028 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:47,520 okay the rest of the items on the agenda 1029 00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:49,119 are for um 1030 00:46:49,119 --> 00:46:51,119 executive inspection so i need a motion 1031 00:46:51,119 --> 00:46:52,319 to reset 1032 00:46:52,319 --> 00:46:54,880 so second all those in favor all right 1033 00:46:54,880 --> 00:46:59,430 we're 1034 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,520 finance committee the first item is 1035 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,520 accept 200 000 in funding from the 1036 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:05,680 disconnected from schenectady country 1037 00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,839 for jerry carrell arc improvement 1038 00:47:08,839 --> 00:47:11,359 mr um this is kind of what i i mentioned 1039 00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:13,359 the connectivity county legislature has 1040 00:47:13,359 --> 00:47:15,040 authorized two hundred thousand funding 1041 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,640 to be allocated through the improvements 1042 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,960 to jerry brown park um this complements 1043 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,319 the funding that we have through the 1044 00:47:20,319 --> 00:47:23,440 states of 205-417 1045 00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:25,359 so this is just a resolution from the 1046 00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:27,280 city council authorizing the acceptance 1047 00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:28,800 of the funds and the amount not to 1048 00:47:28,800 --> 00:47:30,559 exceed 200 000 1049 00:47:30,559 --> 00:47:32,480 um in authorization of the mayor and 1050 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:36,710 order doesn't need to enter an agreement 1051 00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:39,760 any questions concerns 1052 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:42,160 may have a motion 1053 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,200 one second 1054 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:45,760 all in favor 1055 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:49,359 the next item is 2022 hot emergency 1056 00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:53,310 solution grant 1057 00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:59,190 [Music] 1058 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,359 and it's a request from bethesda house 1059 00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:02,240 to 1060 00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:03,520 um 1061 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:04,559 to 1062 00:48:04,559 --> 00:48:07,280 remove rapid re-housing program funds of 1063 00:48:07,280 --> 00:48:10,960 19 216 to the homeless prevention 1064 00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:12,079 program 1065 00:48:12,079 --> 00:48:14,400 um so we're requesting this contract 1066 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,400 amendment and authorizing the mayor or 1067 00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,559 as doesn't need to effectuate this with 1068 00:48:18,559 --> 00:48:27,510 bethesda 1069 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:29,200 the next item is calling for public 1070 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:32,400 hearing to amend the 20 21 22 annual 1071 00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,910 action plan is yes 1072 00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,280 so um here we have we're requesting the 1073 00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:42,400 reallocation of some unexpended cdbg 1074 00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,640 funds that we had in the 21 1075 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:47,760 2021 to 2022 annual action plans in the 1076 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,680 public works category 1077 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:52,960 so we're looking to reallocate 250 000 1078 00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,800 which will require a substantial 1079 00:48:54,800 --> 00:48:57,359 amendment to the annual action plan and 1080 00:48:57,359 --> 00:49:00,240 a 30-day comment public comment period 1081 00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:02,720 and public hearings 1082 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,119 so we're looking to use these funds for 1083 00:49:05,119 --> 00:49:07,040 city park improvements 1084 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:09,520 and this would include 1085 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:12,079 um but we don't want to build it to 1086 00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:13,599 the current plans being developed for 1087 00:49:13,599 --> 00:49:16,079 jerry bell park 1088 00:49:16,079 --> 00:49:17,599 and also 1089 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:19,119 the fitness 1090 00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:21,119 facility that's proposed for orchard 1091 00:49:21,119 --> 00:49:22,480 park that's through 1092 00:49:22,480 --> 00:49:25,119 a grant with mvp healthcare 1093 00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:27,440 so we would like to 1094 00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:29,040 hold a public hearing 1095 00:49:29,040 --> 00:49:32,079 on the february 28th to amend the action 1096 00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:33,280 plan and 1097 00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:36,309 also 1098 00:49:36,319 --> 00:49:39,760 basically just reallocate this 250 000 1099 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,319 of unexpended funds to city park 1100 00:49:42,319 --> 00:49:45,040 improvements 1101 00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:46,960 any questions let's support a field i 1102 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,880 have a question so um i noticed that you 1103 00:49:48,880 --> 00:49:50,880 did say jerry berlin in another part so 1104 00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:53,119 and over 250 thousand dollars do you 1105 00:49:53,119 --> 00:49:54,720 have any idea how much you would want to 1106 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:56,839 allocate to your car i just don't 1107 00:49:56,839 --> 00:50:00,960 understand at all so um 1108 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:02,559 i believe in 1109 00:50:02,559 --> 00:50:06,150 americans i think 1110 00:50:06,160 --> 00:50:07,760 we know that there's a lot of work 1111 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,920 that's needed you know in the parks and 1112 00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:12,079 essentially we had some unexpended funds 1113 00:50:12,079 --> 00:50:14,160 through delayed projects and the snap 1114 00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:16,640 program which there weren't foreclosures 1115 00:50:16,640 --> 00:50:18,000 i understand that i just want to know 1116 00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:20,319 between the 250 do you know how much you 1117 00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:22,160 have you have you had talked about how 1118 00:50:22,160 --> 00:50:23,440 much would go to this part how much 1119 00:50:23,440 --> 00:50:24,559 would build another right that was my 1120 00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:26,800 question so i believe the fitness court 1121 00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:31,040 is 115. the correct mvp is 50 000. 1122 00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:32,480 this court and the local match is 1123 00:50:32,480 --> 00:50:35,440 approximately 115. 1124 00:50:35,440 --> 00:50:38,160 50 000 from the nbp is the grant and the 1125 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,680 local match 1126 00:50:39,680 --> 00:50:42,559 is approximately 115. does that include 1127 00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:45,839 pouring the slab 1128 00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:52,870 i don't that does include pouring inside 1129 00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,960 and that's for mvp okay all right so i 1130 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,160 have the answer 1131 00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:57,599 thank you 1132 00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:00,079 for um that is in and that's for the 1133 00:51:00,079 --> 00:51:03,119 fitness for the fitness okay go ahead 1134 00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:04,640 all right thank you 1135 00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,720 and we still have it just so you know we 1136 00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,880 still have a deficit in the in the 1137 00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:10,400 jerry's world budget 1138 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:12,400 that is aside from the lighting that we 1139 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,760 would intend to um use the cdbg funding 1140 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:16,559 for 1141 00:51:16,559 --> 00:51:18,480 um so it's it's 1142 00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:19,599 if um 1143 00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:21,280 you know because i'll just say 1144 00:51:21,280 --> 00:51:23,119 originally i thought maybe we could just 1145 00:51:23,119 --> 00:51:25,760 use the cdbg from the lighting but then 1146 00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,200 the project would still 1147 00:51:27,200 --> 00:51:31,349 fall short in some other areas 1148 00:51:31,359 --> 00:51:34,800 and the other aspect of that is 1149 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,359 just construction costs have been 1150 00:51:37,359 --> 00:51:38,880 incrementing up so some of the 1151 00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:40,960 assumptions and these numbers were made 1152 00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:42,559 a couple of years ago 1153 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,800 in the reality when they go up 1154 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,280 for actual bids now they're coming in 1155 00:51:47,280 --> 00:52:02,870 higher than what we hoped 1156 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:09,190 all 1157 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,520 the next item is 2021 budget 1158 00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,760 reallocation retro payment first you 1159 00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:15,040 enter agreement between the city of 1160 00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:18,240 schenectady and firefighter local 28 mr 1161 00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:19,760 ferrari 1162 00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,240 banner president city council mayor 1163 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:24,240 uh as you remember back in october of 1164 00:52:24,240 --> 00:52:28,559 2021 uh resolution 2021-15 the city of 1165 00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:30,240 schenectady and uh 1166 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,920 labor had a labor agreement with the 1167 00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,480 city's connectivity firefighters local 1168 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:35,599 28. 1169 00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:38,640 uh within that contract uh uh it 1170 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,880 contained a retroactive payments back to 1171 00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:44,960 2019 2020 and 2021. 1172 00:52:44,960 --> 00:52:47,839 uh the city we did not uh 1173 00:52:47,839 --> 00:52:49,680 we did not appropriate this settlement 1174 00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,920 in that 2021 budget because we didn't 1175 00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:53,520 know uh 1176 00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,880 when it was going to be completed so 1177 00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,319 in accordance with the government uh 1178 00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:00,000 county governmental accounting standards 1179 00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:02,079 that we need to charge this uh 1180 00:53:02,079 --> 00:53:05,440 and disclose it in the 2021 fiscal year 1181 00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:08,480 um these retro payments uh uh were 1182 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,800 recently disbursed and uh 1183 00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:13,040 and we're asking the the recommendation 1184 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:15,599 of the attached accounts to be 1185 00:53:15,599 --> 00:53:18,240 appropriated uh the total amount of that 1186 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:20,079 is one million two hundred sixty three 1187 00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:21,599 thousand eight hundred ninety one 1188 00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:23,200 dollars and thirty cents 1189 00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,760 uh we remember we're recommending using 1190 00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:28,640 uh uh our our funding loss and general 1191 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:29,920 reserve 1192 00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:32,559 revenue springs 1193 00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:34,960 any questions 1194 00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:37,520 i have a motion 1195 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:38,400 second 1196 00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,160 all in favor 1197 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,319 the next item is a 2022 budget 1198 00:53:42,319 --> 00:53:44,480 reallocation payment personal agreement 1199 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:46,079 between the city of connecticuty and 1200 00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,280 firefighter local 28th mr ferrari so at 1201 00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,280 the same resolution and the same uh 1202 00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:53,440 labor agreement uh when we did these 1203 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:55,359 retro payments these were all paid in 1204 00:53:55,359 --> 00:53:58,800 2022. so uh when we did make those 1205 00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:02,240 payments in 2022 uh there was uh a 1206 00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:04,960 cost of fica and medicare and pension 1207 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:07,280 payments so we're looking uh for the 1208 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,119 total cost uh if you see through with 1209 00:54:09,119 --> 00:54:10,400 the 1210 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,680 detachment uh the total comes to 568 1211 00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:15,760 thousand one hundred nineteen dollars 1212 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,480 and uh uh because uh we're using pension 1213 00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:22,000 uh money so we're going to ask to be uh 1214 00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:24,000 reappropriated using the general fund 1215 00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:25,220 reserves 1216 00:54:25,220 --> 00:54:26,640 [Music] 1217 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:28,800 any questions 1218 00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:32,160 a little bit second all in favor aye 1219 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:33,280 thank you 1220 00:54:33,280 --> 00:54:36,559 any other businesses for finance 1221 00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:42,549 all in favor 1222 00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:45,040 health and recreation um we have just 1223 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,200 one item on the agenda and that is a 1224 00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:50,319 ceremony ceremonial resolution um and so 1225 00:54:50,319 --> 00:54:52,720 i'll turn the floor over to missport 1226 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:54,960 so february is american heart month and 1227 00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:55,680 so 1228 00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,760 um you know we often do ceremony 1229 00:54:57,760 --> 00:54:59,359 resolutions to bring attention to 1230 00:54:59,359 --> 00:55:02,160 certain diseases or someone special did 1231 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,000 something so i think it's important that 1232 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,680 we do this and you know heart health is 1233 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:07,200 something that um 1234 00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,599 many americans like as one out of four 1235 00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:11,760 um don't even know they haven't one of 1236 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,119 four deaths in the american united 1237 00:55:13,119 --> 00:55:14,799 states because so i think it's an 1238 00:55:14,799 --> 00:55:17,359 opportunity to bring this forward and 1239 00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:20,400 also to um also women 1240 00:55:20,400 --> 00:55:22,640 suffer from heart disease more so than 1241 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:23,359 men 1242 00:55:23,359 --> 00:55:25,119 so i think it's important that we just 1243 00:55:25,119 --> 00:55:26,559 bring it forward and talk about 1244 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:27,920 examining our health habits and so i 1245 00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:30,079 just would like to have a ceremony 1246 00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,319 resolution presented to that 1247 00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:54,230 any questions 1248 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,040 thank you okay i'd like to call the 1249 00:55:57,040 --> 00:55:59,839 government operations committee to order 1250 00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:02,400 we have two items two agenda items 1251 00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:03,839 uh the first of which is around our 1252 00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:05,920 procurement policy and i will turn it 1253 00:56:05,920 --> 00:56:08,559 over to an advertising reporter 1254 00:56:08,559 --> 00:56:11,280 thank you um so we have we discussed 1255 00:56:11,280 --> 00:56:13,280 this about four weeks ago and at the 1256 00:56:13,280 --> 00:56:15,280 time that we discussed it 1257 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:16,559 and actually let me just be clear mr 1258 00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:18,480 mutavero's name could be next in my name 1259 00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:20,400 here not on the previous one 1260 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,240 um 1261 00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:24,240 so at that time we talked about the fact 1262 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:26,079 that we um didn't have any real 1263 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:29,119 reference to our mbwbe in there and our 1264 00:56:29,119 --> 00:56:31,280 procurement policy only referred to it 1265 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:32,960 in the um footnotes 1266 00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:34,960 and so we want we talked about the fact 1267 00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:36,640 that we need to have mr gardner here to 1268 00:56:36,640 --> 00:56:38,799 give us some information and also to 1269 00:56:38,799 --> 00:56:40,880 talk about inserting language actually 1270 00:56:40,880 --> 00:56:42,799 in the procurement policy 1271 00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:45,040 so all of you um mr garner would you 1272 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,200 like to come forward so did every 1273 00:56:47,200 --> 00:56:48,720 council member get a copy of what you 1274 00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:50,079 send out 1275 00:56:50,079 --> 00:56:51,119 yeah it's in the back it's all right 1276 00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:52,559 here okay 1277 00:56:52,559 --> 00:56:53,520 so 1278 00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:54,720 go ahead 1279 00:56:54,720 --> 00:56:58,240 okay so again thank you for that 1280 00:56:58,240 --> 00:57:00,880 coming for you um again we'll be asking 1281 00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:03,200 for this is a review of the 1282 00:57:03,200 --> 00:57:06,000 original confined uh 1283 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,400 security policy that was passed back in 1284 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:10,000 2020 1285 00:57:10,000 --> 00:57:11,680 and with the understanding that we will 1286 00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:13,359 review that from time to time and 1287 00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:14,400 modified 1288 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,359 not created as necessary this request 1289 00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:19,760 here we're asking to 1290 00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:23,200 raise the uh mwe uh 1291 00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,599 compliance on contracting uh 1292 00:57:25,599 --> 00:57:27,200 opportunities over a hundred thousand 1293 00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:28,160 from 1294 00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:31,200 eleven point five percent uh mvp and 1295 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,920 eleven point five percent wb up to 1296 00:57:33,920 --> 00:57:36,000 fifteen percent east a total of thirty 1297 00:57:36,000 --> 00:57:38,240 percent which is in line with the system 1298 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:50,789 that was the state 1299 00:57:50,799 --> 00:57:52,640 which was consistent with the 1300 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:54,799 modification of keeping that alignment 1301 00:57:54,799 --> 00:57:57,200 will be going from 1302 00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,839 seven percent but nbe which is the work 1303 00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:04,000 for 12 percent but nbe and 1304 00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:06,400 women was bringing the workforce goals 1305 00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:12,040 and getting to 1306 00:58:12,050 --> 00:58:21,109 [Music] 1307 00:58:21,119 --> 00:58:22,799 elaborate on section three public works 1308 00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:24,799 uh construction contract exceeding three 1309 00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:26,079 hundred thousand that's what we're 1310 00:58:26,079 --> 00:58:28,160 proposing 1311 00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,680 okay so again back in 2020 we talked 1312 00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:35,349 about the cap on 1313 00:58:35,359 --> 00:58:38,480 justin's project having uh kept a 1314 00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,079 minimum of 1315 00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:43,760 250 thousand dollars today on the uh any 1316 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,640 public works project within the city 1317 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:56,090 and we're asking to raise that to 300 1318 00:58:56,100 --> 00:59:01,910 [Music] 1319 00:59:01,920 --> 00:59:03,920 so what is the benefits the city will 1320 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,720 receive by doing that you would expand 1321 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,559 the crew so you have more smaller firms 1322 00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:10,240 opportunity to bid 1323 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:21,030 on public work projects 1324 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:23,440 um so this is different from what we 1325 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:24,720 approved in 1326 00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,640 2020 i thought that when we talked about 1327 00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,799 it a couple of weeks ago we were pretty 1328 00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:30,400 much just trying to make sure that the 1329 00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:31,520 policy 1330 00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:33,119 that we were seeing 1331 00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:35,599 reflected what we had agreed on 1332 00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:37,200 in 2020 but 1333 00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:39,119 now we're changing this is actually to 1334 00:59:39,119 --> 00:59:41,440 change the 2020 policy 1335 00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,040 that's okay i guess i thought we were 1336 00:59:43,040 --> 00:59:44,960 doing something different 1337 00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:46,880 no at the end of that conversation 1338 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:48,559 awesome 1339 00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:51,680 and then that actually we said and you 1340 00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:52,960 were in agreement that we should look at 1341 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:55,280 how the mwbe was a part of it because it 1342 00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:56,720 wasn't there before 1343 00:59:56,720 --> 00:59:58,319 we did have that conversation when we 1344 00:59:58,319 --> 00:59:59,760 discussed this four weeks ago when we 1345 00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,119 weren't ready to come back in two weeks 1346 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:02,960 we didn't have the information okay i 1347 01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,280 guess i thought that we discussed making 1348 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,520 sure that what we were doing was in line 1349 01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:09,599 with what we had done all that work on 1350 01:00:09,599 --> 01:00:11,760 in 2020 yes you're correct 1351 01:00:11,760 --> 01:00:14,079 we review the documents and we bring it 1352 01:00:14,079 --> 01:00:16,480 up to date and today's uh whatever is 1353 01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:17,440 out there 1354 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:20,640 10 000. i'm moving the mwbe 1355 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,760 um 1356 01:00:21,760 --> 01:00:24,960 11.5 so 50 50 1357 01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:27,760 on the work force gold 1358 01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:30,319 to 20 those are the only changes to this 1359 01:00:30,319 --> 01:00:32,960 mwb document that we have looked at two 1360 01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:35,119 years ago and those were changes going 1361 01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:36,240 into the 1362 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,430 this year 1363 01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:41,200 that we're 1364 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,680 do you have any proposing with the um oh 1365 01:00:43,680 --> 01:00:47,030 something like me 1366 01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,480 ms patrick did you have concerns about 1367 01:00:48,480 --> 01:00:50,079 them no it's just not what i thought we 1368 01:00:50,079 --> 01:00:51,839 were discussing tonight i thought we 1369 01:00:51,839 --> 01:00:52,559 were 1370 01:00:52,559 --> 01:00:54,319 i i thought we were discussing something 1371 01:00:54,319 --> 01:00:57,599 different so 1372 01:00:57,599 --> 01:00:59,760 i trust mr garden 1373 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,430 recommendation 1374 01:01:03,440 --> 01:01:14,789 as he knows 1375 01:01:14,799 --> 01:01:16,559 in 2020 when it was adopted the last 1376 01:01:16,559 --> 01:01:19,200 time by resolution um there were two 1377 01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:21,119 separate resolutions right there was one 1378 01:01:21,119 --> 01:01:23,440 for the purchasing policy and then uh 1379 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,440 essentially like a lack of better word a 1380 01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:27,920 sister resolution approving 1381 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:31,670 the mwb policy 1382 01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:32,720 you know it's obviously up to the 1383 01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:34,319 council i see them as being two separate 1384 01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:35,520 policies because it gives more 1385 01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,000 flexibility because the mwb policy may 1386 01:01:38,000 --> 01:01:39,440 be one that you 1387 01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:40,480 um 1388 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:43,520 you go back to in 2023 presumably maybe 1389 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:45,520 to to reevaluate 1390 01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:47,119 the purchasing policy is one that is 1391 01:01:47,119 --> 01:01:48,720 good for two years 1392 01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,720 so if the council is going to entertain 1393 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,359 a resolution or entertain a legislative 1394 01:01:53,359 --> 01:01:56,240 request to pass a resolution i would 1395 01:01:56,240 --> 01:01:57,119 do it 1396 01:01:57,119 --> 01:01:59,680 two separate alleged requests and two 1397 01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,630 separate resolutions 1398 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,319 we had we had two set of documents the 1399 01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:06,400 last time was the section three policy 1400 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,079 at the end of the year was that combines 1401 01:02:08,079 --> 01:02:11,039 one sister resolution i didn't 1402 01:02:11,039 --> 01:02:13,119 i don't well as far as i know there's 1403 01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:15,839 only one in terms of the energy and mwb 1404 01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:17,599 and workforce goals here 1405 01:02:17,599 --> 01:02:19,280 um is there a separate 1406 01:02:19,280 --> 01:02:20,480 document 1407 01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,079 outside of that here yeah there was a 1408 01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:24,240 section no no but in terms of what's 1409 01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,680 being presented today 1410 01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:27,280 right so yes 1411 01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:29,760 that's what i'd say right so you know my 1412 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,079 recommendation would be um if you're 1413 01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:34,319 going to do it pass one for a 1414 01:02:34,319 --> 01:02:36,640 legislative request item for 1415 01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,119 the purchasing policy and the separate 1416 01:02:39,119 --> 01:02:41,920 one for the 2022 mwb work and workforce 1417 01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:45,109 goals okay 1418 01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:46,960 so to follow up on them 1419 01:02:46,960 --> 01:02:48,720 that so when we talked to the last time 1420 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,039 was we you can mention the fact that 1421 01:02:51,039 --> 01:02:53,599 there's a footnote about mwbe and we'll 1422 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:55,920 talk about actually putting the whatever 1423 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:57,599 that footnote refers to at least some 1424 01:02:57,599 --> 01:02:59,839 specific language that says do this as 1425 01:02:59,839 --> 01:03:02,240 opposed to uh counting on someone to 1426 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:04,799 look at the footnote and then do it 1427 01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:06,319 do you not use it 1428 01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:08,480 well at the end right no and i 1429 01:03:08,480 --> 01:03:11,520 understand that um obviously the mwb 1430 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:13,039 workforce goals are just that their 1431 01:03:13,039 --> 01:03:13,920 goals 1432 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,240 right whereas the change to um 1433 01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:19,200 increasing the uh public works contracts 1434 01:03:19,200 --> 01:03:21,599 to 300 000 is you know that's that's 1435 01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:22,960 firm 1436 01:03:22,960 --> 01:03:25,359 so i see it you know one is something we 1437 01:03:25,359 --> 01:03:27,760 aspire to do and the other is 1438 01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:30,000 a hard number that is going to be in the 1439 01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:32,240 purchasing policy and sure we do refer 1440 01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:33,119 to the 1441 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:37,920 mwb uh and work and workforce uh 1442 01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:38,880 goals 1443 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,880 um in the but again that's up to the 1444 01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,240 council 1445 01:03:42,240 --> 01:03:43,440 you know i'm just making my 1446 01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:49,280 recommendation because these are for 20 20 excuse me for 2022 whereas the 1447 01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:55,430 purchasing policy is a two-year policy 1448 01:03:55,440 --> 01:03:57,440 you brought the discussion on i do have 1449 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,000 another question so 1450 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:00,880 um 1451 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,200 the other um part of it so anything that 1452 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,440 um is under 1453 01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,039 what is the level of contracts that you 1454 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:10,559 save so it's 35 000 under this are those 1455 01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:13,839 goals apply to that 1456 01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:16,160 so all right so um the other thing that 1457 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:17,359 uh 1458 01:04:17,359 --> 01:04:18,960 that i think is important that so that 1459 01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,559 we're trying to meet our goals if we 1460 01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:23,200 include those contracts as well i think 1461 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:24,880 would be beneficial are you part of 1462 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,480 those discussions now if it's under that 1463 01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,319 amount or is it a hundred thousand over 1464 01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:29,119 right 1465 01:04:29,119 --> 01:04:31,280 so that might be helpful in us returning 1466 01:04:31,280 --> 01:04:32,640 our goals if we look at the contracts 1467 01:04:32,640 --> 01:04:34,000 that are under um 1468 01:04:34,000 --> 01:04:36,480 35 000 because maybe we're meeting them 1469 01:04:36,480 --> 01:04:38,160 and we just it's just because it's not 1470 01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:41,119 calculated in that we would um be able 1471 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:42,960 to meet those goals so i would like to 1472 01:04:42,960 --> 01:04:44,559 be able to see those contacts as well 1473 01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,480 that's something that mr gardner would 1474 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:47,359 have 1475 01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:50,960 input in to make sure he helps to 1476 01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:53,359 identify mwbes 1477 01:04:53,359 --> 01:04:54,880 so that they could you know avail 1478 01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,319 themselves to those opportunities as 1479 01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:59,829 well 1480 01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:02,240 i have a question so how did we is that 1481 01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,079 like kind of like this 1482 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,520 how do we reach that threshold for a 1483 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,200 hundred thousand four 1484 01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:13,599 how do we get to that threshold to decide you know what 1485 01:05:13,599 --> 01:05:16,400 comes before you and what does 1486 01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:18,799 that thing come out on the 1487 01:05:18,799 --> 01:05:21,119 worst contract yes so episodes we're 1488 01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:23,039 talking about um you know you're saying 1489 01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:24,640 that there's some unconscious that 1490 01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,480 because they don't rise to a certain 1491 01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:27,920 level they don't they don't come before 1492 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:29,680 you correct 1493 01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:35,200 and and that that threshold was what they'll be like purchasing uh 1494 01:05:35,200 --> 01:05:37,920 you know contact somebody doing um 1495 01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:39,680 you know snokeline for example or 1496 01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,440 repairing the windows you know things 1497 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:43,359 like that okay and 1498 01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:45,200 you're suggesting um 1499 01:05:45,200 --> 01:05:47,440 that all those all contracts um go 1500 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:50,799 through ron's office for to see if we 1501 01:05:50,799 --> 01:05:54,000 could help meet our wp eagles 1502 01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:54,880 and 1503 01:05:54,880 --> 01:05:56,000 the other 1504 01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,839 thing i'd like to see is this also only 1505 01:05:57,839 --> 01:05:59,680 talks about this 1506 01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:01,520 in the um procurement process it always 1507 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:03,200 talks about goods 1508 01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,359 um it's whatever is 1509 01:06:05,359 --> 01:06:07,920 so i would like to see services as well 1510 01:06:07,920 --> 01:06:10,079 um be a part of that yes 1511 01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:12,160 yeah services are there services at 1512 01:06:12,160 --> 01:06:14,000 first or part of our computer policy 1513 01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:15,200 yeah 1514 01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:16,160 i'm gonna have to read through that 1515 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:17,760 again i didn't see that so i wanted to 1516 01:06:17,760 --> 01:06:19,440 make sure that services with goods and 1517 01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,280 services and that just says 1518 01:06:21,280 --> 01:06:26,870 okay 1519 01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:28,559 so just just follow up make sure that 1520 01:06:28,559 --> 01:06:30,480 you're safe here so mid sports are you 1521 01:06:30,480 --> 01:06:33,119 asking that instead of having a footnote 1522 01:06:33,119 --> 01:06:35,920 let us insert 1523 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:38,880 that section into the policy so 1524 01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:40,960 whatever that footnote refers to and i'm 1525 01:06:40,960 --> 01:06:42,960 not talking about have it extensive but 1526 01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,559 so that people are as they're reading 1527 01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:46,319 through they're not overlooking it and 1528 01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,240 just passing on that you know just make 1529 01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:51,839 it clear that mwp mwde participation is 1530 01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:52,880 something 1531 01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,559 you know that that they need to consider 1532 01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:56,480 when we're talking about um preparing 1533 01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,260 for the city 1534 01:06:58,260 --> 01:07:01,670 [Music] 1535 01:07:01,680 --> 01:07:03,680 i i i um 1536 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,440 i don't want to draft something that is 1537 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:07,280 not the council's intention obviously if 1538 01:07:07,280 --> 01:07:08,559 you were to pass 1539 01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:10,559 you know the legislative request um i 1540 01:07:10,559 --> 01:07:12,720 don't know if this language that um 1541 01:07:12,720 --> 01:07:14,559 you know 1542 01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:16,720 in preparing a resolution i'd like to 1543 01:07:16,720 --> 01:07:18,799 you know ideally to be language that 1544 01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:20,400 reflects accurately what the city 1545 01:07:20,400 --> 01:07:22,559 council or the committee passes tonight 1546 01:07:22,559 --> 01:07:24,960 if it doesn't in fact pass anything 1547 01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:27,680 um so i i don't want to misrepresent 1548 01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:29,200 what is actually passed if something 1549 01:07:29,200 --> 01:07:34,390 does pass 1550 01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:39,670 any other questions around this 1551 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:50,230 that's cool you had a request 1552 01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,480 is not in and i just want to 1553 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:54,799 just so you know the um i at the last 1554 01:07:54,799 --> 01:07:56,079 meeting i asked what i asked for again 1555 01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:58,240 today just so we could see 1556 01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:01,119 the um contracts that had been um 1557 01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:03,039 had been left in the past i think it was 1558 01:08:03,039 --> 01:08:05,039 18 months just so we can see if we were 1559 01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:07,119 even hitting the goals even 1560 01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:08,880 unintentionally and there was things 1561 01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,760 under 35 000 but um there i wasn't you 1562 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:13,200 know i haven't gotten those at this 1563 01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:14,640 point in time 1564 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:16,719 because ultimately if we can do it by 1565 01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:18,480 using it over all the contracts that we 1566 01:08:18,480 --> 01:08:19,920 did that would just be 1567 01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:22,400 in my mind better for the city to see 1568 01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:29,749 that we're reaching those goals 1569 01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:31,359 any further questions or discussions 1570 01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:33,839 around them 1571 01:08:33,839 --> 01:08:35,920 so are you looking at us moving power in 1572 01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,040 terms but 1573 01:08:37,040 --> 01:08:39,279 or do you want to hold off and catch her 1574 01:08:39,279 --> 01:08:40,880 well i'd like to be able to see that 1575 01:08:40,880 --> 01:08:43,279 documentation first um just to see where 1576 01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:44,640 we are with that 1577 01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,799 um 1578 01:08:46,799 --> 01:08:48,080 and i don't know if we can do that 1579 01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:50,239 between now and then and i mean i guess 1580 01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:51,839 my bigger question is is that something 1581 01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,799 we're willing to consider that mr um mr 1582 01:08:54,799 --> 01:08:55,920 gardner be 1583 01:08:55,920 --> 01:08:57,359 you know involved in that process as 1584 01:08:57,359 --> 01:08:59,359 well 1585 01:08:59,359 --> 01:09:00,560 i mean 1586 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,560 i i you know to 1587 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:05,120 can't speak to mr carter's no capacity 1588 01:09:05,120 --> 01:09:06,640 right now to do that but i think if we 1589 01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,520 do have the capacity i think that that sounds like a 1590 01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,679 good practice um 1591 01:09:11,679 --> 01:09:13,520 anybody else thinks about that and if so 1592 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:16,719 we're saying that maybe we um 1593 01:09:16,719 --> 01:09:18,159 hold off on this and kind of revisit 1594 01:09:18,159 --> 01:09:19,759 after we get some more information seems 1595 01:09:19,759 --> 01:09:21,759 like that's where we're going 1596 01:09:21,759 --> 01:09:25,120 well i don't i would like to see us be able 1597 01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:28,080 to look at that so but other counselling 1598 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:31,359 yeah i don't have a problem with that 1599 01:09:31,359 --> 01:09:33,440 but then we can also work at inserting 1600 01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:35,279 the two sections that you wanted to see 1601 01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:37,440 in this policy where the work for force 1602 01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:38,560 have you have in the 1603 01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:40,799 requirement section so a two section 1604 01:09:40,799 --> 01:09:42,960 needs to be added into the policy well 1605 01:09:42,960 --> 01:09:44,799 mr coleman is saying that he doesn't 1606 01:09:44,799 --> 01:09:45,759 think it 1607 01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:47,600 i'm not saying that at all i'm not 1608 01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,199 saying that i'll it's you know it's 1609 01:09:49,199 --> 01:09:50,480 obviously within the constant 1610 01:09:50,480 --> 01:09:52,239 prerogative to 1611 01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:53,759 put it into the purchasing policy and 1612 01:09:53,759 --> 01:09:56,640 what it deems you know fit 1613 01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:58,320 i just don't want to create language 1614 01:09:58,320 --> 01:10:00,719 that doesn't accurately reflect what the 1615 01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:03,440 council would like obviously 1616 01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,520 it seems like we'll be as we're having 1617 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,800 more information obviously when we work 1618 01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:08,159 on the corporation council in order to 1619 01:10:08,159 --> 01:10:10,080 make sure that we're putting forth 1620 01:10:10,080 --> 01:10:11,280 accurately describes what we're trying 1621 01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:12,719 to do here 1622 01:10:12,719 --> 01:10:14,719 right 1623 01:10:14,719 --> 01:10:17,760 okay so there's a definitely what 1624 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:19,440 two weeks we're saying 1625 01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:23,920 okay 1626 01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:26,239 next on the agenda is 1627 01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:28,640 the discussion on ole miss broadcasting 1628 01:10:28,640 --> 01:10:30,960 um 1629 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:34,080 thank you uh so as we all know the 1630 01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:36,880 problem with the broadcasting of the 1631 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:39,360 meeting still remains an issue 1632 01:10:39,360 --> 01:10:41,600 particularly the audio 1633 01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:42,640 the last 1634 01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:44,239 time we talked about this was about a 1635 01:10:44,239 --> 01:10:46,000 month ago 1636 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:50,239 checked in with the zeb from osm 1637 01:10:50,239 --> 01:10:51,760 in the mayor's office 1638 01:10:51,760 --> 01:10:53,600 unfortunately the two haven't been able 1639 01:10:53,600 --> 01:10:54,800 to 1640 01:10:54,800 --> 01:10:56,159 really 1641 01:10:56,159 --> 01:11:00,480 get together and put something before 1642 01:11:00,480 --> 01:11:02,640 but just wanted to make sure that we 1643 01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:05,280 keep this on on the agenda to make sure 1644 01:11:05,280 --> 01:11:07,520 that we actually do address this 1645 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:10,320 and at some point get it fixed so people 1646 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:11,600 can't 1647 01:11:11,600 --> 01:11:13,920 actually hear what we have to say 1648 01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:15,840 i don't know did you want to add 1649 01:11:15,840 --> 01:11:18,239 anything um i don't really have anything 1650 01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:21,120 to add just i know that um 1651 01:11:21,120 --> 01:11:22,320 tell everybody 1652 01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:24,080 that it would make a lot of people happy 1653 01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:25,920 that watch it at home to be able to hear 1654 01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,520 it clearly 1655 01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:30,000 and and see it a lot better 1656 01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,199 we do the best we can with what we have 1657 01:11:33,199 --> 01:11:34,159 but 1658 01:11:34,159 --> 01:11:37,679 frankly some love is deteriorating it's 1659 01:11:37,679 --> 01:11:40,560 older um this would put us in a really 1660 01:11:40,560 --> 01:11:41,760 good place 1661 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,000 visually and audio 1662 01:11:44,000 --> 01:11:45,920 to really bring the council meetings 1663 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,320 home and archive 1664 01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:49,360 forever 1665 01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:53,910 um 1666 01:11:53,920 --> 01:12:02,870 [Music] 1667 01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:07,270 [Applause] 1668 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,280 behind there how loud it is to adjust 1669 01:12:09,280 --> 01:12:10,960 that so that would give the sam or 1670 01:12:10,960 --> 01:12:12,080 somebody 1671 01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:14,640 audio controls to uh to turn it down or 1672 01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:17,199 up if something's not awful 1673 01:12:17,199 --> 01:12:19,040 in the chambers separate from the 1674 01:12:19,040 --> 01:12:21,040 recording so there's little things like 1675 01:12:21,040 --> 01:12:23,040 that that would uh certainly help the 1676 01:12:23,040 --> 01:12:26,560 production quality of the meetings 1677 01:12:26,560 --> 01:12:28,880 but i'm happy to answer your questions 1678 01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:29,920 all right so 1679 01:12:29,920 --> 01:12:34,950 we used to have 1680 01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,960 speak for that foreign those cordless 1681 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:39,199 mics uh just started dropping off two of 1682 01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:42,320 them don't work at all now um and then 1683 01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:43,520 the eos 1684 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:45,600 gentleman tom told me that they are 1685 01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,440 running on frequencies that we're not 1686 01:12:47,440 --> 01:12:49,679 even allowed to run out 1687 01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:52,480 um there's a digital equivalent now of 1688 01:12:52,480 --> 01:12:56,000 those that were a lot better 1689 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:57,120 and 1690 01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,040 yeah so that's why we're not using those 1691 01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:00,480 anymore 1692 01:13:00,480 --> 01:13:02,159 they're just they're just 1693 01:13:02,159 --> 01:13:09,430 dated 1694 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:11,280 would this be an opportunity to kind of 1695 01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:13,840 partner with someone like um our uh 1696 01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:14,719 our 1697 01:13:14,719 --> 01:13:17,040 community partners like around 1698 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,640 who are doing board meetings right now 1699 01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:20,080 who don't seem to have the same issues 1700 01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:21,520 like if they're willing to do that like 1701 01:13:21,520 --> 01:13:23,840 maybe our school district or accounting 1702 01:13:23,840 --> 01:13:25,040 even to try to see if we can partner 1703 01:13:25,040 --> 01:13:26,320 with them around 1704 01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,080 accessing the same type of technology 1705 01:13:28,080 --> 01:13:29,440 that they're using 1706 01:13:29,440 --> 01:13:38,709 um 1707 01:13:38,719 --> 01:13:41,840 it's just different and quite frankly 1708 01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:47,910 um 1709 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:50,320 they do a great job um 1710 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:52,400 but our needs are a little different we 1711 01:13:52,400 --> 01:13:53,520 have a 1712 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,280 different room i mean this is an older 1713 01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:56,800 building and there's just little things 1714 01:13:56,800 --> 01:13:58,640 like that 1715 01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,400 fighting against like little audio 1716 01:14:00,400 --> 01:14:02,560 noises that with the the hum and the 1717 01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:05,760 lights and that just eats the mic and 1718 01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,520 this would um 1719 01:14:07,520 --> 01:14:11,189 take care of all those issues 1720 01:14:11,199 --> 01:14:20,470 but it's good 1721 01:14:20,480 --> 01:14:21,520 so 1722 01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:22,480 um 1723 01:14:22,480 --> 01:14:24,320 i actually i did mention this too mr 1724 01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:26,320 fellow brothers followed so at this 1725 01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,239 point in time um 1726 01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:29,280 how 1727 01:14:29,280 --> 01:14:30,320 i mean 1728 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:31,920 how long would it take or what is the 1729 01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:34,320 process i think maybe maybe that being a 1730 01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,800 question for the mayor but um because i 1731 01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,080 thought at least if we could have chores 1732 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:39,679 of somebody but 1733 01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:41,920 um the feedback is that we shouldn't 1734 01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:45,040 entertain expense that we you know 1735 01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:46,400 that we're just spending money because 1736 01:14:46,400 --> 01:14:48,239 we have to upgrade but at this point 1737 01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:50,239 time we're using one mic and i've still 1738 01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:52,080 even with the one like that my one of 1739 01:14:52,080 --> 01:14:54,159 the feedback that i'm getting is that 1740 01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:56,159 it's still not good quality so much for 1741 01:14:56,159 --> 01:14:58,870 the um 1742 01:14:58,880 --> 01:15:01,920 for the public so 1743 01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:03,440 what are your thoughts on 1744 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:05,440 what we are where we are right now 1745 01:15:05,440 --> 01:15:06,400 um 1746 01:15:06,400 --> 01:15:08,400 i mean this with the proposal i mean 1747 01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,480 it's a top it's a top to bottom kind of 1748 01:15:10,480 --> 01:15:11,920 thing it would take care of all those 1749 01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:14,719 problems i mean honestly i 1750 01:15:14,719 --> 01:15:16,960 um i looked at every 1751 01:15:16,960 --> 01:15:19,280 you know item and i asked tom a bunch of 1752 01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:20,800 questions on each other so i understand 1753 01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:23,840 what intersects with one 1754 01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:24,880 and it all 1755 01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:27,600 kind of just sounds great i mean 1756 01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,400 it really is a 1757 01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:32,080 top-down approach 1758 01:15:32,080 --> 01:15:33,040 to it 1759 01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,880 you know 1760 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:37,040 i mean i could get different proposals 1761 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,600 from different uh but it would you know 1762 01:15:41,600 --> 01:15:42,719 take 1763 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:44,800 some more weeks and right now 1764 01:15:44,800 --> 01:15:46,560 the equipment is just frank i mean we 1765 01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,520 have no cordless mics 1766 01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:53,040 and there's other issues as well with 1767 01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,679 these links on table and and little 1768 01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,840 things like that that just need to be 1769 01:15:57,840 --> 01:15:59,040 upgraded 1770 01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:02,229 in my opinion 1771 01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:04,080 well i think if we're not 1772 01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:07,040 people can't hear you know then it's 1773 01:16:07,040 --> 01:16:09,040 really kind of defeating the purpose of 1774 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,040 what we're trying to do so i appreciate 1775 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:13,600 your thoughts on that mr murderer 1776 01:16:13,600 --> 01:16:15,120 yeah thank you 1777 01:16:15,120 --> 01:16:17,520 i think all of us in this room here can 1778 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,120 attest that we have received our fair 1779 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:20,560 share of complaints 1780 01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,800 from the public in terms of argue in 1781 01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:24,880 terms of the likely i think this is 1782 01:16:24,880 --> 01:16:26,640 something that we should 1783 01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:27,520 do 1784 01:16:27,520 --> 01:16:29,840 we should we should proceed 1785 01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:32,239 with this and move out to 1786 01:16:32,239 --> 01:16:34,400 get the mayor authority to um go ahead 1787 01:16:34,400 --> 01:16:36,080 and get this contract and get this 1788 01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,360 equipments in 1789 01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:39,360 and uh you know rehab the whole place 1790 01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:40,800 and get the 1791 01:16:40,800 --> 01:16:43,280 it working properly so that the resident 1792 01:16:43,280 --> 01:16:45,040 can 1793 01:16:45,040 --> 01:16:47,840 look and hear 1794 01:16:47,840 --> 01:16:49,840 think that's something that we should do 1795 01:16:49,840 --> 01:16:51,360 um there's no hole but there shouldn't 1796 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,719 be no hold back on this server at this 1797 01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:55,120 point in time let's select the 1798 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:57,600 defender and we'll power 1799 01:16:57,600 --> 01:17:01,590 and get this equipment installed 1800 01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:03,120 uh so i also think it's worth noting and 1801 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:04,560 before i state that i want to say thank 1802 01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:06,159 you for all the work that you're doing i 1803 01:17:06,159 --> 01:17:07,360 know you definitely mentioned there are 1804 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:09,199 some system issues that you're trying to 1805 01:17:09,199 --> 01:17:10,800 navigate and i'll definitely see you in 1806 01:17:10,800 --> 01:17:12,320 here uh 1807 01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:14,800 trying to get it functional um so 1808 01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:16,640 you know i noticed that 1809 01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:18,400 but in regards to us offering this 1810 01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:20,239 service or an option for people to view 1811 01:17:20,239 --> 01:17:21,840 these meetings from home i think we're 1812 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:23,199 going to offer this we need to make sure 1813 01:17:23,199 --> 01:17:25,120 it's at a certain level and standard 1814 01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,719 that allows them to be able to view our 1815 01:17:26,719 --> 01:17:29,520 meetings or we need to adjust how we 1816 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:32,640 offer this if at all so definitely 1817 01:17:32,640 --> 01:17:34,480 i appreciate this discussion item being 1818 01:17:34,480 --> 01:17:36,560 on the agenda again tonight but i think 1819 01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:39,360 we need to place a greater 1820 01:17:39,360 --> 01:17:41,679 emphasis on this because again i think 1821 01:17:41,679 --> 01:17:43,840 our residents or visitors who are 1822 01:17:43,840 --> 01:17:45,520 viewing these meetings 1823 01:17:45,520 --> 01:17:47,440 they owe us a certain quality and if 1824 01:17:47,440 --> 01:17:48,560 we're not able to meet those 1825 01:17:48,560 --> 01:17:51,120 expectations we should just uh 1826 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:52,719 remove it 1827 01:17:52,719 --> 01:17:53,370 sooner 1828 01:17:53,370 --> 01:17:55,040 [Music] 1829 01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:56,840 so 1830 01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,600 largely agree but i think there's 1831 01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:02,390 information 1832 01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:03,280 that 1833 01:18:03,280 --> 01:18:07,120 we if we want to continue down this road 1834 01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,840 we need to discuss an executive session 1835 01:18:10,840 --> 01:18:14,480 regarding some other options 1836 01:18:14,480 --> 01:18:15,280 and 1837 01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,280 look and hear all that information 1838 01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:18,719 before 1839 01:18:18,719 --> 01:18:20,880 we proceed with any sort of action 1840 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,000 because 1841 01:18:22,000 --> 01:18:24,239 i think it's information that 1842 01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:26,480 is needed to be heard 1843 01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:29,440 and it's important information to have 1844 01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:33,600 yes we want to have quality 1845 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,320 transmission of our meetings 1846 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:39,040 but we also need to make sure we're 1847 01:18:39,040 --> 01:18:41,040 using our money 1848 01:18:41,040 --> 01:18:43,760 efficiently and effectively and also 1849 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,480 have the information so i think if we do 1850 01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:47,440 want to 1851 01:18:47,440 --> 01:18:49,600 continue down that road it should be a 1852 01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:50,880 discussion 1853 01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:55,830 and executive session 1854 01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:59,270 i knew the thoughts were on that 1855 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,199 and so can i just show some clarity 1856 01:19:01,199 --> 01:19:02,800 around that so it would be regarding 1857 01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:05,520 contracts then yes your contract oh 1858 01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:08,400 but to mr palomini's point the 1859 01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:10,960 relationship between the city and open 1860 01:19:10,960 --> 01:19:13,280 stage media evolved with the last 1861 01:19:13,280 --> 01:19:16,080 negotiations with the franchise 1862 01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,440 agreement with 1863 01:19:17,440 --> 01:19:21,669 what was then time warner it's now 1864 01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:23,760 charter and 1865 01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:27,440 simultaneously with verizon so they are 1866 01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:29,199 the designated 1867 01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:30,159 peg 1868 01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:32,000 operator of 1869 01:19:32,000 --> 01:19:33,840 pegtv is 1870 01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:37,679 public access education and government 1871 01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:40,400 and so those contracts the franchise 1872 01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,800 agreements have expired 1873 01:19:42,800 --> 01:19:47,750 and we have not entered into 1874 01:19:47,760 --> 01:19:50,640 negotiations to renew those there's been 1875 01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,800 some changes at the federal level 1876 01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,600 there's discussions at the state level 1877 01:19:55,600 --> 01:19:58,080 and it's a uh what i call a dynamic 1878 01:19:58,080 --> 01:19:58,610 process 1879 01:19:58,610 --> 01:19:59,760 [Music] 1880 01:19:59,760 --> 01:20:01,040 and that's 1881 01:20:01,040 --> 01:20:02,960 some of the things that were 1882 01:20:02,960 --> 01:20:05,840 in the city's advantage a little over 10 1883 01:20:05,840 --> 01:20:07,040 years ago 1884 01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:14,629 are not there today 1885 01:20:14,639 --> 01:20:15,679 all right 1886 01:20:15,679 --> 01:20:17,760 so please 1887 01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:21,990 have we budgeted 1888 01:20:22,000 --> 01:20:24,800 50 something thousand dollars no no so 1889 01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,480 we would have to find the money 1890 01:20:26,480 --> 01:20:28,480 there's no request in the clerk's budget 1891 01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:30,239 this year for 1892 01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:34,790 any upgrade of 1893 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:36,560 the support system share that equipment 1894 01:20:36,560 --> 01:20:37,600 with us 1895 01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:39,830 no 1896 01:20:39,840 --> 01:20:41,679 i'm trying to get some maybe some 1897 01:20:41,679 --> 01:20:43,600 dollars 1898 01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,830 you'll try it 1899 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:49,360 okay you need further discussion on the 1900 01:20:49,360 --> 01:20:50,639 matter 1901 01:20:50,639 --> 01:20:52,320 is there any more business what's more 1902 01:20:52,320 --> 01:20:54,560 here so we're moving this into executive 1903 01:20:54,560 --> 01:20:57,360 session continue discussion if you want 1904 01:20:57,360 --> 01:21:00,000 to uh yes we should please let's do that 1905 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,239 all right sometimes it's executive 1906 01:21:02,239 --> 01:21:05,750 session 1907 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:07,520 everything else is everything else is 1908 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:08,880 executive session 1909 01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,120 so you just need to um you can just go 1910 01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,320 in 1911 01:21:12,320 --> 01:21:26,390 we could go in right 1912 01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:29,430 uh 1913 01:21:29,440 --> 01:21:30,560 recess 1914 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:31,679 second 1915 01:21:31,679 --> 01:21:34,790 all in favor 1916 01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:35,760 okay 1917 01:21:35,760 --> 01:21:38,320 now do i open close your eyes 1918 01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:42,560 okay i'd like to uh open the claims um 1919 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,199 and with that i will entertain a motion 1920 01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:49,600 they need to go into executive session 1921 01:21:49,600 --> 01:21:51,679 and if i get a second 1922 01:21:51,679 --> 01:21:54,159 okay um all in favor 1923 01:21:54,159 --> 01:22:01,110 okay 1924 01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:03,920 oh