1 00:02:57,360 --> 00:03:02,599 hi chad how are you good how are you um 2 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:15,920 that's what i have to do don't worry 3 00:03:14,080 --> 00:03:17,680 i'll send it to you 4 00:03:15,920 --> 00:03:19,599 i like you sort of drawing oh thank you 5 00:03:17,680 --> 00:03:21,760 thank you now um tomorrow what time 6 00:03:19,599 --> 00:03:24,760 should we be here how about 8 45 good 7 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,760 bye 8 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,320 good 9 00:11:31,690 --> 00:11:51,099 [Music] 10 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:29,519 for monday march 21st 11 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:32,240 and the first committee is government 12 00:12:29,519 --> 00:12:33,680 operations mr charlotte okay so i'd like 13 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:36,639 to call the government 14 00:12:33,680 --> 00:12:38,880 operations committee to order um we have 15 00:12:36,639 --> 00:12:39,680 four items on the agenda 16 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:41,920 um 17 00:12:39,680 --> 00:12:45,120 a discussion around uh cannabis 18 00:12:41,920 --> 00:12:48,000 licensing zoning procurement policy uh 19 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:48,880 ceremony resolution for zion lutheran 20 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:54,399 church 21 00:12:48,880 --> 00:12:56,639 and a discussion around personnel um so 22 00:12:54,399 --> 00:12:58,880 first around kind of candidates licensed 23 00:12:56,639 --> 00:13:00,560 zoning i wanted to bring this back up to 24 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:02,959 the council we 25 00:13:00,560 --> 00:13:04,959 spoke a little bit about this um 26 00:13:02,959 --> 00:13:06,800 and there was some conversation around 27 00:13:04,959 --> 00:13:10,240 this before i uh i actually joined the 28 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:12,639 council but um as we're moving um in 29 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:14,720 this direction i want to kind of 30 00:13:12,639 --> 00:13:16,320 open up the conversation to make sure 31 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:18,639 that we are 32 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:21,120 keeping in mind that we are trying to do 33 00:13:18,639 --> 00:13:23,279 this and within the spirit of the law 34 00:13:21,120 --> 00:13:25,440 that seems to uh 35 00:13:23,279 --> 00:13:28,160 clearly point out trying to you know 36 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:30,160 write some wrongs and some historical 37 00:13:28,160 --> 00:13:31,519 lines around prohibition in 38 00:13:30,160 --> 00:13:33,680 marginalized communities and how they 39 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:35,760 were disproportionately impacted 40 00:13:33,680 --> 00:13:37,200 by these laws and i wanted to just kind 41 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:39,519 of have that conversation with the 42 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:45,079 council and make sure i was uh getting 43 00:13:39,519 --> 00:13:45,079 your thoughts on on how we can do so 44 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:52,320 and i would also if you don't mind i'd 45 00:13:49,680 --> 00:13:54,399 like mr um colin uh to speak to his 46 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,639 drawing part of it yeah 47 00:13:54,399 --> 00:13:58,800 yeah mr coleman 48 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:01,680 thank you uh good evening everyone 49 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:03,120 um to begin um we're still waiting for 50 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:04,959 regulations to come out from new york 51 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:05,839 state related to 52 00:14:04,959 --> 00:14:07,600 um 53 00:14:05,839 --> 00:14:08,880 you know the parameters that the state's 54 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:11,120 going to set up 55 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:13,120 for lounges and dispensaries 56 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:15,279 um i don't want to say we're in the dark 57 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:17,920 when i think you know 58 00:14:15,279 --> 00:14:19,920 but we haven't seen even proposed 59 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:21,519 regulations let alone finalized 60 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,199 regulations 61 00:14:21,519 --> 00:14:26,399 um 62 00:14:23,199 --> 00:14:27,680 with zoning obviously you know 63 00:14:26,399 --> 00:14:29,440 there have been discussions that i've 64 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:31,279 had with people in the development 65 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:32,880 office 66 00:14:31,279 --> 00:14:34,240 generally i think 67 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:36,880 we're of the mind that it's good to have 68 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:38,959 the conversation but until 69 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:40,959 the regulations come out so that we know 70 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:43,120 what the state is going to require and 71 00:14:40,959 --> 00:14:45,519 whether or not 72 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:47,600 you know we can go beyond what the state 73 00:14:45,519 --> 00:14:48,720 um may require 74 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:51,120 um 75 00:14:48,720 --> 00:14:53,360 that's up in the air we don't know 76 00:14:51,120 --> 00:14:55,440 for example you know 77 00:14:53,360 --> 00:14:57,199 you know this i'm i'm speaking because i 78 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:58,639 have really have no idea yeah it could 79 00:14:57,199 --> 00:15:00,240 be something related to like you know 80 00:14:58,639 --> 00:15:02,079 liquor stores where you have to have you 81 00:15:00,240 --> 00:15:04,639 know you have to be 500 feet apart for 82 00:15:02,079 --> 00:15:06,959 you know there are distance um 83 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:08,720 requirements with liquor stores 84 00:15:06,959 --> 00:15:11,360 there's a chance that the state will do 85 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:14,560 something very similar along those lines 86 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:16,639 and the state may say and a city may be 87 00:15:14,560 --> 00:15:18,160 able to go beyond those restrictions we 88 00:15:16,639 --> 00:15:19,519 just don't know 89 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,800 um 90 00:15:19,519 --> 00:15:23,120 you know i think obviously it's good to 91 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:25,680 have the conversation to know to kind of 92 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:28,079 keep it fresh but until really i think 93 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:29,759 the state comes out with 94 00:15:28,079 --> 00:15:30,880 some type of 95 00:15:29,759 --> 00:15:33,360 you know 96 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:34,399 regulations for us to review 97 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:36,480 um 98 00:15:34,399 --> 00:15:40,079 it's very difficult to say what we can 99 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:41,600 do and what we can't do 100 00:15:40,079 --> 00:15:43,360 there's not much more that i can really 101 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:45,120 say on that i know you know as i said 102 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,240 i've talked to the zoning officer about 103 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:49,839 it we've 104 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:52,240 you know um reviewed um you know things 105 00:15:49,839 --> 00:15:55,839 that may come up but we just as i said 106 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:55,839 we don't know until we know 107 00:15:56,959 --> 00:15:59,759 i guess you know as we're out because 108 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,600 we're gonna 109 00:15:59,759 --> 00:16:03,519 end up operating within certain 110 00:16:01,600 --> 00:16:04,560 parameters right so i just wanted to 111 00:16:03,519 --> 00:16:06,000 make sure you know i guess for the 112 00:16:04,560 --> 00:16:08,240 council outside of that piece was just 113 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:10,800 like you know what you know as we start 114 00:16:08,240 --> 00:16:12,320 to think ahead of like you know what are 115 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:15,519 you know some of the things that we can 116 00:16:12,320 --> 00:16:17,199 be uh you know 117 00:16:15,519 --> 00:16:19,120 making sure that we are in line with the 118 00:16:17,199 --> 00:16:20,399 spirit of this law because 119 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:21,920 i i want to make sure that that's 120 00:16:20,399 --> 00:16:24,240 something that we're doing here that 121 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,360 we're really honored you know um 122 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,959 correcting you know some of the 123 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,399 historical inequities that uh 124 00:16:26,959 --> 00:16:32,240 prohibition has 125 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:35,120 uh impacted certain communities mr mayor 126 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:39,839 can i correct i thought the 127 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,320 state was going to put out first draft 128 00:16:39,839 --> 00:16:44,959 regulations so there would be a comment 129 00:16:42,320 --> 00:16:46,399 period so we would be able to 130 00:16:44,959 --> 00:16:47,759 get a general 131 00:16:46,399 --> 00:16:49,600 feel for 132 00:16:47,759 --> 00:16:51,360 the criteria that they were going to put 133 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:53,519 into effect 134 00:16:51,360 --> 00:16:55,120 and 135 00:16:53,519 --> 00:16:57,759 kind of react 136 00:16:55,120 --> 00:16:59,360 from that you know should we endorse it 137 00:16:57,759 --> 00:17:00,480 100 should we 138 00:16:59,360 --> 00:17:03,120 say no 139 00:17:00,480 --> 00:17:06,480 we don't want some of this and 140 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:08,400 zoning is still largely 141 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:10,720 the program of the local legislative 142 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:11,679 body that you're going to have 143 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,480 uh 144 00:17:11,679 --> 00:17:16,079 the final decision on that 145 00:17:14,480 --> 00:17:18,480 with the exception you know the state 146 00:17:16,079 --> 00:17:20,880 has taken some things 147 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:21,839 such as group homes 148 00:17:20,880 --> 00:17:24,079 and 149 00:17:21,839 --> 00:17:26,400 gave them the designation as a 150 00:17:24,079 --> 00:17:29,520 thing this is a single family 151 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:30,720 are one so that you can't 152 00:17:29,520 --> 00:17:32,400 and it's appropriate where you can't 153 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,280 discriminate against them 154 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:35,200 but 155 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,400 at the same time where you have some of 156 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:38,160 those 157 00:17:36,400 --> 00:17:40,960 homes that come in 158 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:43,120 they create issues that 159 00:17:40,960 --> 00:17:44,080 are ancillary to their activity they're 160 00:17:43,120 --> 00:17:47,039 parking 161 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:49,200 their traffic the things that uh 162 00:17:47,039 --> 00:17:51,120 people understand the goal of the 163 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,280 organization as a whole but there's 164 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:54,320 sometimes there are impacts that the 165 00:17:53,280 --> 00:17:57,039 state 166 00:17:54,320 --> 00:17:58,480 legislature or illinois may not have 167 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:00,480 considered 168 00:17:58,480 --> 00:18:02,320 how do we look at these and be able to 169 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,480 articulate a position that's going to be 170 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:07,510 appropriate for schenectady and probably 171 00:18:04,480 --> 00:18:10,700 other communities across the state 172 00:18:07,510 --> 00:18:10,700 [Music] 173 00:18:11,360 --> 00:18:16,000 so we've opted in for the retail 174 00:18:13,679 --> 00:18:16,799 dispensary and the on-flight consumption 175 00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:18,000 right 176 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:19,840 and then 177 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:21,520 um 178 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,919 then we have the other information here 179 00:18:21,520 --> 00:18:26,080 where it says that 180 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:27,600 the governor has said that certain 181 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,520 communities people certain people who 182 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,280 are impacted negatively are going to be 183 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:32,160 the first ones to get 184 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:34,400 um 185 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:34,400 um 186 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,880 so 187 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,760 i mean is that something that i mean how 188 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:41,200 do we 189 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,240 i know we can't make this decision today 190 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:44,559 but i think we need to start having a 191 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:45,760 conversation of how we even identify 192 00:18:44,559 --> 00:18:46,559 because people have already come forward 193 00:18:45,760 --> 00:18:47,760 who 194 00:18:46,559 --> 00:18:50,320 that doesn't that they're not in that 195 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,919 category but there are people 196 00:18:50,320 --> 00:18:54,559 so people who are in that category how 197 00:18:51,919 --> 00:18:56,400 do we begin to identify or you know how 198 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:59,200 do we do that um i know that people 199 00:18:56,400 --> 00:19:00,480 aren't going to get licenses until 2023 200 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,840 but um 201 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,360 it's gonna probably take a while to get 202 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,039 through all of this so 203 00:19:03,360 --> 00:19:07,039 um i think that's one of the reasons why 204 00:19:05,039 --> 00:19:09,440 we're talking about it today just to 205 00:19:07,039 --> 00:19:11,679 begin to kind of put in place 206 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:14,799 so that we're not there in 2023 trying 207 00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:17,039 to figure that out yes yeah and if it's 208 00:19:14,799 --> 00:19:20,160 i mean yeah please uh 209 00:19:17,039 --> 00:19:20,160 mr coleman pointed out 210 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:25,600 the application process somewhat mirrors 211 00:19:23,039 --> 00:19:28,240 are similar to a liquor license 212 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:32,480 you know we don't become aware of it 213 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,480 until the process is well underway 214 00:19:34,559 --> 00:19:38,640 and i believe i read that the governor 215 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:40,799 said there'd be the first 100 to 200 is 216 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:42,880 that all new york state yes yes so 217 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:44,960 that's what it is 218 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:46,400 so i mean i guess we would just wait for 219 00:19:44,960 --> 00:19:48,080 people to fill out a license and if 220 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:50,720 they're in our area that's how we would 221 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:52,640 determine who was going to be able to i 222 00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:54,960 don't know and i don't think they've 223 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:57,760 said how many 224 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:59,440 licenses they're looking to give 225 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:02,640 statewide 226 00:19:59,440 --> 00:20:02,640 is that 200 227 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:08,799 most of them is it half of them is it 228 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:11,200 still a lot of unknowns in the 229 00:20:08,799 --> 00:20:12,480 discussion 230 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,919 i think they're 231 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:15,600 unknown but 232 00:20:13,919 --> 00:20:18,000 um i thought that it was a first round 233 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:20,080 of 100 licenses across the state and 234 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,840 then the second round of 100 licenses 235 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,520 across the state i thought 236 00:20:21,840 --> 00:20:24,880 but i think they're in a public comment 237 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:27,360 period 238 00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:29,679 right now actually um 239 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:32,559 in terms of those first hundred but 240 00:20:29,679 --> 00:20:34,640 i'm asking this question however 241 00:20:32,559 --> 00:20:36,720 even with those first and it is 100 242 00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:38,480 across the state so obviously i would 243 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:40,880 think that they're going to be 244 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:43,280 as the state awards the licenses they'll 245 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:44,799 be looking at 246 00:20:43,280 --> 00:20:47,120 you know probably be skewed to different 247 00:20:44,799 --> 00:20:48,720 areas of the state as well so but we 248 00:20:47,120 --> 00:20:52,000 don't have the licenses right i mean 249 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:54,559 it'll be a state estate thing so that's 250 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:57,039 it's not it's not even in our control 251 00:20:54,559 --> 00:20:58,159 at that point who gets the licenses i 252 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:00,880 think 253 00:20:58,159 --> 00:21:03,200 that's my assumption at this point 254 00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:05,200 yeah 255 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:07,039 you know that doesn't mean that you know 256 00:21:05,200 --> 00:21:09,120 just because there are no there are 257 00:21:07,039 --> 00:21:11,280 unknowns we shouldn't think about you 258 00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:14,880 know this obviously you know the idea 259 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:16,640 here is you know um any type of you know 260 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:18,159 permitting process we do internally for 261 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:19,840 the city whether that's a special use 262 00:21:18,159 --> 00:21:23,039 permit that the city council wanted to 263 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:25,280 require for any dispensary or lounge or 264 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:27,280 um anything related to 265 00:21:25,280 --> 00:21:28,559 you know the areas around the city in 266 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,679 which 267 00:21:28,559 --> 00:21:32,720 the council may look to you know only 268 00:21:31,679 --> 00:21:35,039 allow 269 00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:36,720 dispensaries or 270 00:21:35,039 --> 00:21:39,360 lounges you know that's within your 271 00:21:36,720 --> 00:21:42,240 purview um it just can't be anything 272 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:44,320 that's really unreasonable in terms of 273 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:45,840 preventing somebody from actually or a 274 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:47,039 company from actually operating within 275 00:21:45,840 --> 00:21:49,280 the city 276 00:21:47,039 --> 00:21:50,880 um but you know there may come a point 277 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,400 in time where the council says you know 278 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:53,679 we don't want to have 279 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:55,360 you know i'm not speaking for you 280 00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:56,640 obviously this is hypothetical where you 281 00:21:55,360 --> 00:21:58,720 may say we don't want to have 282 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,559 dispensaries or lounges in our one 283 00:21:58,720 --> 00:22:03,039 residential district 284 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:04,400 obviously that's important to know um so 285 00:22:03,039 --> 00:22:05,679 we can take a look at the zoning code 286 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:08,000 and 287 00:22:05,679 --> 00:22:10,080 um you know maybe better identify you 288 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,440 know that's a gun up to you and as i 289 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:14,640 said i've talked to the development 290 00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:16,080 staff about it you know 291 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:17,840 again without the regulations it's 292 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,480 really hard to say you know what can be 293 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:22,880 done and what can't be done um but it's 294 00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:24,720 important i think to be mindful of 295 00:22:22,880 --> 00:22:26,640 when the regulations do come out you 296 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:28,960 know where the council 297 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:31,039 thinks that it would be best for lounges 298 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:33,039 and dispensaries to be and then what we 299 00:22:31,039 --> 00:22:35,840 do internally with you know whether it's 300 00:22:33,039 --> 00:22:37,200 a special use permit or obviously you 301 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:40,480 know somebody would probably still have 302 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:43,200 to get site plan approval um but um 303 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:44,960 there are things to think about um 304 00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:47,200 but with so many unknowns it's really 305 00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,240 hard to say how does the council move 306 00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:49,280 forward 307 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:51,200 right yeah 308 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,919 yeah just for clarity you know the 309 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:56,000 conversation today isn't necessarily um 310 00:22:53,919 --> 00:22:57,919 you know how we you know how we move 311 00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,480 forward it you know for me what i really 312 00:22:57,919 --> 00:23:01,919 want to do is make sure that we are as 313 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,200 because we do need to start thinking 314 00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:04,400 about it right right because we know 315 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,559 that it's coming down the line so if 316 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:09,520 we're doing that that we're doing that 317 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:11,120 um you know in in alignment with you 318 00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:13,600 know uh 319 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:15,200 the spirit of the law that that 320 00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,799 you know as it's been done so i just 321 00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:18,400 want to make sure that it's the lens 322 00:23:16,799 --> 00:23:19,200 we're looking through as we're 323 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:20,960 um 324 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:23,810 as we do as we're starting to think 325 00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,960 about it 326 00:23:23,810 --> 00:23:26,320 [Music] 327 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,159 thanks uh so i definitely think it's 328 00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:30,000 important to actively remind the 329 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:32,080 community that as these conversations 330 00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:34,320 continue to evolve as a council we're 331 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:38,000 remaining in tune with the information 332 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:40,640 that's coming out and then definitely um 333 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:42,080 emphasizing what mr farley mentioned 334 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:44,799 just understanding what the governor's 335 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:47,279 intent is so absent or personal uh 336 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,960 interpretations or opinions about the 337 00:23:47,279 --> 00:23:50,960 seating opportunity initiative it's just 338 00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:52,480 understanding that whatever is decided 339 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:54,880 there's a little comment period as the 340 00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:56,240 mayor alluded to or that's what the 341 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:57,760 expectation is 342 00:23:56,240 --> 00:24:00,559 but understanding that regardless of 343 00:23:57,760 --> 00:24:02,000 what comes out as a counselor and sure 344 00:24:00,559 --> 00:24:04,240 that we're promoting it to the 345 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:05,520 betterment of the entire community so i 346 00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:07,919 think it's just 347 00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:10,960 we're aware of updates there have been 348 00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:13,919 no formalized legislation coming forward 349 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:16,320 everyone just be patient 350 00:24:13,919 --> 00:24:16,320 that's it 351 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:20,880 as i was looking up some things at the 352 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:22,880 office of canada's mismanagement after 353 00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:24,320 this was on the agenda i noticed that 354 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:26,400 there was something that they did called 355 00:24:24,320 --> 00:24:27,919 community conversations 356 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:30,400 where they went around and talked to 357 00:24:27,919 --> 00:24:32,000 people i wasn't aware of that so um you 358 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,760 can go back and it's on the website you 359 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:35,200 can go back and hit the link and 360 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:37,520 actually um go look at it i haven't had 361 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:39,120 a chance to do that yet but so i it'll 362 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,559 be interesting for us i think to maybe 363 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,919 take a look and see 364 00:24:40,559 --> 00:24:42,470 what these community conversations were 365 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:44,159 about 366 00:24:42,470 --> 00:24:45,760 [Music] 367 00:24:44,159 --> 00:24:47,360 so it's in english in spanish for those 368 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:48,559 who are listening and may want to go 369 00:24:47,360 --> 00:24:50,400 back in 370 00:24:48,559 --> 00:24:52,080 i don't have the um 371 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:54,559 the link here but it's on the cannabis 372 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,559 website 373 00:24:55,279 --> 00:24:58,799 any further discussion on that 374 00:24:58,880 --> 00:25:02,720 okay 375 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:04,240 so we'll move into our procurement 376 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:06,640 policy 377 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,640 portfolio 378 00:25:08,720 --> 00:25:12,640 thank you 379 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:15,760 a few weeks ago we discussed 380 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:17,440 new procurement policy for year 2022 to 381 00:25:15,760 --> 00:25:19,440 2023 382 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:22,720 and we held this back because mrs 383 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:25,039 porterfield had wanted us to 384 00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:26,799 recommend that we insert the mwb 385 00:25:25,039 --> 00:25:28,400 language into the policy rather than 386 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:29,279 having a footnote 387 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:30,480 so 388 00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:32,880 we did that 389 00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,600 and this was a version that 390 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:37,440 is with us here for us to review 391 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:40,990 and come up with any additional 392 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:43,440 recommendation that we may have 393 00:25:40,990 --> 00:25:45,919 [Music] 394 00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:48,000 if i may ask um 395 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:50,640 mr gardner just give us a brief update 396 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,080 if you don't mind sure sure 397 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,840 mr gardner you just want to give us a 398 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:58,960 brief update on these uh added 399 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:58,960 changes the benefits of doing these 400 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,919 all right good afternoon 401 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,919 thank you um 402 00:26:03,919 --> 00:26:08,240 so so basically 403 00:26:05,919 --> 00:26:09,600 what what is the quote for you is taking 404 00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,720 the language that's already been 405 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:14,000 approved in the uh mwde 406 00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:18,080 policy 407 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:19,679 and adding into the uh practicing policy 408 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,840 you know every language as opposed to 409 00:26:19,679 --> 00:26:23,120 football because it's already there but 410 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:24,000 fellow in going 411 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:24,000 we there's 412 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,960 back and forth 413 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:34,640 basically 414 00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,640 unless we have any specific questions 415 00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:40,960 i noticed a question that i think i'm 416 00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:43,520 not sure if it was from mr colton it 417 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:45,200 says a.k.a um i was 418 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:46,400 uncertain about that too i don't know if 419 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,600 that got 420 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,880 worked out 421 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,559 do you want to say it or do you want me 422 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,840 to i don't have any i mean that's the 423 00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:54,480 question that i raised i didn't i don't 424 00:26:51,840 --> 00:26:57,520 have an answer um so 425 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:59,360 it um i'll just read it says um 426 00:26:57,520 --> 00:27:03,760 are the goals for 427 00:26:59,360 --> 00:27:05,679 each mbes and wpes 15 as indicated on 428 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:07,600 the first paragraph for public works 429 00:27:05,679 --> 00:27:10,720 projects more than 100k 430 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:11,600 or are the goals for each of those 12 431 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:13,440 and 8 432 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:17,200 and i did notice as i read through that 433 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:19,120 it is in it is it says 12 and 8 in some 434 00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:21,120 different things okay so i was a little 435 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:23,039 confused also the workforce goes deal 436 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:25,120 specifically with the workforce so 437 00:27:23,039 --> 00:27:27,440 that's the hourly 438 00:27:25,120 --> 00:27:29,360 person working on the job site so so 439 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:32,159 that's the eeo component 440 00:27:29,360 --> 00:27:33,600 and then the mwbe contract compliance 441 00:27:32,159 --> 00:27:34,399 piece gives us a 442 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:37,039 okay 443 00:27:34,399 --> 00:27:39,760 okay so numbers of people on the site 444 00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:40,559 work at the workforce in the workforce 445 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:43,360 and 446 00:27:40,559 --> 00:27:46,360 then the other part is just for like the 447 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:46,360 contractors 448 00:27:46,900 --> 00:27:49,999 [Music] 449 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,640 i guess we'll have one more the only 450 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,679 other thing is that i did notice that 451 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,720 the 452 00:27:55,679 --> 00:28:00,159 ceiling went from 250 000 to 300 000 for 453 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:02,159 the apprenticeship 454 00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:03,200 programs i know we had talked about that 455 00:28:02,159 --> 00:28:04,640 quite a bit 456 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,799 last year i just did couldn't you 457 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:09,520 comment on that yeah and and again that 458 00:28:06,799 --> 00:28:11,600 was the um suggestion you know was to 459 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:13,200 come back and discuss it was talk about 460 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:15,520 you know bringing it you know and 461 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:18,159 phasing that in and that's all that was 462 00:28:15,520 --> 00:28:20,399 what's basically probably 250 up to 300 463 00:28:18,159 --> 00:28:22,799 000 again 464 00:28:20,399 --> 00:28:23,600 the mindset is to create opportunities 465 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:25,600 for 466 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,880 you know the smaller firms that not 467 00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:30,760 necessarily have 468 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:30,760 you know access to these friendships 469 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:45,760 more local small business owners 470 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:47,840 one of the questions i think that was 471 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:50,480 raised at the last time that we talked 472 00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:53,200 about this a few weeks ago was to what 473 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:56,159 extent we've had success 474 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,720 um with local 475 00:28:56,159 --> 00:29:00,480 contractors being able to to do this 476 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:03,679 based on these changes that we had made 477 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:06,320 last time okay so so it's a long term 478 00:29:03,679 --> 00:29:08,480 process you know it's a commitment and 479 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,679 um you know we've had success uh we're 480 00:29:08,480 --> 00:29:12,720 getting you know more and more firms uh 481 00:29:11,679 --> 00:29:14,640 know 482 00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,880 coming in line consistency in terms of 483 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,880 what the state requirements are 484 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:21,200 and so we're working that and it's a 485 00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,799 much more strenuous process 486 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,799 in other words 487 00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:26,960 you know to get certified and all that 488 00:29:24,799 --> 00:29:26,960 there's 489 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,159 and 490 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,840 you know we've gotten more companies 491 00:29:32,159 --> 00:29:35,679 certified 492 00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,440 you know as a result of this and then 493 00:29:35,679 --> 00:29:39,679 you know more opportunities 494 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:41,120 you know coming forward and ultimately 495 00:29:39,679 --> 00:29:43,200 you know i won't be able to say in you 496 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:44,559 know two years from now or five years 497 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:46,559 from the conception 498 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:49,520 that we create more prime contractors 499 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:51,200 that's you know in this thing that 500 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:53,440 people you know compete and have 501 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:54,559 capacity to perform and execute on these 502 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,799 jobs 503 00:29:54,559 --> 00:29:58,559 which also means that we would have more 504 00:29:56,799 --> 00:30:00,480 opportunity for 505 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:02,480 the workforce and our constituents so 506 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:04,159 again we have to do two things one you 507 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,840 got to bring the capacity of other 508 00:30:04,159 --> 00:30:07,520 companies to compete 509 00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:09,600 and you know being the thing which is 510 00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:11,600 all about good business but also we have 511 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,720 to train and develop the workforce to 512 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,480 support 513 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:16,720 you know these companies so that's why 514 00:30:14,480 --> 00:30:18,480 you can't do one without another you 515 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:20,000 know so you can't necessarily have a 516 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:22,000 training program 517 00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:24,159 and you don't have companies capable of 518 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:26,480 taking longer to do that so you have to 519 00:30:24,159 --> 00:30:28,159 bring up the workforce to support you 520 00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:30,640 know these companies that 521 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:32,640 you know that comes along and 522 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,080 there's a lot more to it than just 523 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,520 the labor on the work you know and 524 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,960 having the children person you know 525 00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:39,039 these companies they need 526 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:40,480 back office support for them and they 527 00:30:39,039 --> 00:30:42,720 have trouble 528 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:44,399 getting the paperwork in and processing 529 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,440 really which is why they know their pay 530 00:30:44,399 --> 00:30:48,840 which is 531 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:50,960 adds to the cash flow issue so so it's 532 00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:52,880 evolving process 533 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:54,559 that they have to 534 00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:56,960 you know do and 535 00:30:54,559 --> 00:30:59,279 you know we are making that way and 536 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:01,120 you know a lot of success and we have to 537 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:04,679 continue but it's not easy by no means 538 00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:04,679 you know it's 539 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:09,840 well i appreciate the work that you do 540 00:31:08,159 --> 00:31:11,760 to help folks get 541 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:15,919 certified and 542 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:15,919 recruit a larger workforce so thank you 543 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,399 yes i would also like to thank you for 544 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:22,240 your input in this 545 00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:24,080 this pickerman policy to get all 546 00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:27,360 information to us and also working on 547 00:31:24,080 --> 00:31:29,279 the nwp the updated mwb version for the 548 00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:31,200 next two years so once again thank you 549 00:31:29,279 --> 00:31:31,840 for all the 550 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:35,440 good hard 551 00:31:31,840 --> 00:31:35,440 you thank you so appreciate it 552 00:31:35,519 --> 00:31:39,360 so i i raised this question so mr um 553 00:31:38,399 --> 00:31:41,200 should we 554 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,559 uh we're number 10 which was going to be 555 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:43,919 that footnote should we now if we're 556 00:31:42,559 --> 00:31:46,159 going to be moving forward just delete 557 00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:47,679 that from this document sorry listen 558 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:49,440 i'll go back for a second i was looking 559 00:31:47,679 --> 00:31:50,320 at this 560 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:52,240 um 561 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,919 that was the question in my email but 562 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:56,559 i left it in there and i just added for 563 00:31:53,919 --> 00:31:58,799 additional information because obviously 564 00:31:56,559 --> 00:32:01,440 you know there's additional information 565 00:31:58,799 --> 00:32:03,279 in the um equal opportunity and 566 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,039 affirmative action plan okay it's a good 567 00:32:03,279 --> 00:32:06,480 reference for people to go to it's great 568 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:09,039 that you know we've now included the 569 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:11,120 utilization in here but kind of fills in 570 00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:12,480 some gaps for people to go to the other 571 00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:13,440 document knowing that there's another 572 00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,960 document 573 00:32:13,440 --> 00:32:16,720 okay we just have to put it because i 574 00:32:14,960 --> 00:32:18,720 didn't see i didn't see 575 00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,640 on the place where the footnote where 576 00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:21,440 the this 10 was so we have to find the 577 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,399 place 578 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,480 it's uh 579 00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:27,120 under number four it says for 580 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:29,600 mwbe utilization and then footnote 10 is 581 00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,640 there with it all right 582 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,960 okay 583 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,960 thank you 584 00:32:33,679 --> 00:32:37,679 okay no i'm good 585 00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:39,679 with this okay 586 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:42,159 okay 587 00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:42,159 pretty much 588 00:32:59,550 --> 00:33:02,599 [Music] 589 00:33:07,519 --> 00:33:12,640 it's the 150th anniversary for zion 590 00:33:10,399 --> 00:33:14,880 lutheran church it's just a resolution 591 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:17,679 to recognizing for 592 00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,679 their anniversary 593 00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:23,720 second 594 00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,720 all those in favor 595 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,480 okay 596 00:33:25,519 --> 00:33:28,559 and 597 00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:30,000 now we're going to move on to a 598 00:33:28,559 --> 00:33:31,600 discussion 599 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:33,279 around personnel 600 00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,200 um so this is something if it really 601 00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:38,000 needs to be an executive session so i 602 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:41,120 would like to have it there okay so i 603 00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:44,559 would like to uh recess no the mayor um 604 00:33:41,120 --> 00:33:46,960 wanted to add something oh okay okay 605 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:49,120 afterwards okay so um uh 606 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,279 so what we'll do is we'll go on to um 607 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,880 the mayor wanted to add something here 608 00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:55,919 and then we'll 609 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:58,880 go into that discussion so mr mayor 610 00:33:55,919 --> 00:34:00,799 talked to council member uh 611 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,519 council president porterfield 612 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:06,399 a little while ago got a request from 613 00:34:03,519 --> 00:34:07,679 the u.s conference of mares 614 00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:09,840 to 615 00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,840 uh 616 00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,800 pass it around 617 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,760 there i thought 618 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:19,200 two weeks ago that had been resolved 619 00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,879 but they're still 620 00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:22,800 a 621 00:34:20,879 --> 00:34:25,839 discussion in congress 622 00:34:22,800 --> 00:34:30,320 to limit or take back the money that has 623 00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:34,159 been allocated for local governments 624 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:35,919 to fund some of the 625 00:34:34,159 --> 00:34:37,119 issues that are arising from the 626 00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:38,960 activity 627 00:34:37,119 --> 00:34:39,760 in the ukraine 628 00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,919 and 629 00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,720 some of the deficits that 630 00:34:41,919 --> 00:34:44,240 are 631 00:34:42,720 --> 00:34:46,079 funding 632 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:49,200 necessities that are 633 00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:51,760 coming so from media 634 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:54,399 and what i was looking for from that 635 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:56,240 memo is to have the council consider 636 00:34:54,399 --> 00:34:57,839 passing the resolution 637 00:34:56,240 --> 00:35:00,960 saying that we 638 00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:03,920 appreciate the work that went into 639 00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:06,480 getting money for local governments 640 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:08,720 we're going through the process now to 641 00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:09,359 spend it we've identified some projects 642 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,960 in 643 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:13,359 holland central park going through the 644 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:16,720 review with community now and 645 00:35:13,359 --> 00:35:18,720 again looking forward to 646 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,680 other things as we deal with it next 647 00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:20,640 year 648 00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:24,320 and 649 00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:27,119 i always appreciate the good work of 650 00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:29,839 people in congress sometimes it happens 651 00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:32,640 where i don't quite understand the logic 652 00:35:29,839 --> 00:35:34,800 and uh would uh ask for the council's 653 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:35,599 consideration to go on record saying 654 00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,000 that 655 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,359 we can thank them for the money that 656 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:42,640 we've got and 657 00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:42,640 we need that money and 658 00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:47,359 don't want them to undertake something 659 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:50,079 that would claw it back or modify 660 00:35:47,359 --> 00:35:51,359 what we have 661 00:35:50,079 --> 00:35:53,680 coming to us 662 00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:53,680 today 663 00:35:55,119 --> 00:36:00,240 i would absolutely 100 support that 664 00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:01,839 you know that you know we got the money 665 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:03,119 we're anticipating spending the money so 666 00:36:01,839 --> 00:36:05,920 i think that it's definitely something 667 00:36:03,119 --> 00:36:05,920 that we should do 668 00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,160 so 669 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,599 i agree 670 00:36:20,500 --> 00:36:23,769 [Music] 671 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,839 so at this point um 672 00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:33,760 this is a traffic tool that's an outline 673 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:36,560 again okay 674 00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:40,520 okay so i want you to recess 675 00:36:36,560 --> 00:36:40,520 okay all those in favor 676 00:36:42,820 --> 00:36:45,869 [Music] 677 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,459 [Music] 678 00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:09,680 2022 capital projects which you had 679 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:11,040 already really improved in uh the budget 680 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,720 process uh 681 00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:16,880 in november of the past year uh 682 00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:18,400 and as you know uh what we're in the 683 00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:19,920 process right now is to actually go out 684 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,320 and borrow the money so we're just 685 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:24,320 getting an approval uh with this bond 686 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:26,640 awareness to go out and borrow the money 687 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:29,440 um as you know uh the total capital 688 00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:32,000 prices came over 12 million dollars but 689 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,800 we we're looking to just borrow uh 690 00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:38,640 6.9 million uh the other difference is 691 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:41,599 the cost of issuance costs of 93 000 uh 692 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:44,079 we're going to be banning this ban as a 693 00:37:41,599 --> 00:37:46,240 bonding station though uh usually for 694 00:37:44,079 --> 00:37:48,960 one year and we'll probably bond it next 695 00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:52,640 year as as long as the interest rates 696 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,880 are favorable which they are right now 697 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:58,079 um have any questions yeah 698 00:37:54,880 --> 00:38:00,480 yeah so mr ferrari mr mayor 699 00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:02,880 how many of these items are associated 700 00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:05,839 with 701 00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:05,839 no 702 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:17,040 any questions yeah just about you said 703 00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:20,320 it was 93 000 that was a cost of 704 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,320 insurance no issues 705 00:38:20,480 --> 00:38:24,880 that's right i had a question i think 706 00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,359 earlier today about the vehicle 707 00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:28,560 um uh i'm going to break it down uh the 708 00:38:27,359 --> 00:38:30,880 fire department they're going to have 709 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:32,480 four command vehicles uh the last time 710 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:34,880 they got a vehicle was four years ago 711 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:35,680 most of their vehicles are over 15 years 712 00:38:34,880 --> 00:38:38,079 old 713 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:41,040 and they're asked asking for four new 714 00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:44,480 ones because 15 year 15 years old is the 715 00:38:41,040 --> 00:38:46,079 newest of the last four ones so that's 716 00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:50,000 why they're getting that the police are 717 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:51,359 getting a total of 16 of 12 uh mark cars 718 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:53,680 for unmarked 719 00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:55,359 uh you got to remember uh 720 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:56,880 they just received the new cards for 721 00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:59,599 2021 722 00:38:56,880 --> 00:39:02,160 but we never got the cars in 2020 so 723 00:38:59,599 --> 00:39:04,240 they're replacing cars with huge amount 724 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:06,079 of mileages so so we're actually we're 725 00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:08,640 looking for this actually probably won't 726 00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:09,440 get it for another nine months to a year 727 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,119 so 728 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,960 those police cars 729 00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:15,119 how many did we get just before i know 730 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:16,960 that we're getting 16 now we'll get 69 731 00:39:15,119 --> 00:39:18,160 last year we got 12 all together eight 732 00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:20,720 and four 733 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:22,320 uh the streets uh the streets uh 734 00:39:20,720 --> 00:39:24,160 department we're going to get two dump 735 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,280 two dump trucks with plows the plot of 736 00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:30,000 streets and two new pickup trucks again 737 00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:33,040 those pickup trucks are uh over uh 12 738 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:35,119 years old the ones that we're replacing 739 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,640 the waste department we have four new uh 740 00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:39,680 garbage trucks 741 00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:40,960 and two pickups for the supervisors too 742 00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:42,320 and if you've seen the supervisors 743 00:39:40,960 --> 00:39:45,119 trucks you know that they need new 744 00:39:42,320 --> 00:39:46,240 trucks those guys those are also over 15 745 00:39:45,119 --> 00:39:49,839 years old 746 00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:52,400 uh the snap snap crew we're gonna snap 747 00:39:49,839 --> 00:39:54,079 and uh uh 748 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,760 let me call it 749 00:39:54,079 --> 00:39:58,079 nuisance guys yeah there you go it's 750 00:39:55,760 --> 00:40:00,320 gonna be a total of three uh 751 00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:02,880 uh and that's you know one first staff 752 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:03,680 and the two for the new nuisance guys uh 753 00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:06,079 we're 754 00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:07,520 with the mayor's uh uh uh reasoning 755 00:40:06,079 --> 00:40:09,680 anything that we use for vehicles we're 756 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:11,760 gonna try to get all electric so trying 757 00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:14,480 to move in the electric uh 758 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:16,800 in the electric uh realm of things 759 00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:19,760 and uh sooner you think we'll be buying 760 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:21,680 uh electric uh pickups pretty soon as we 761 00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:22,880 hear this coming 762 00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:24,079 uh 763 00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,599 yeah 764 00:40:24,079 --> 00:40:27,280 how many sweepers are we gonna have 765 00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:29,920 we're gonna have one new sweeper in fact 766 00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:33,040 uh we as you remember uh i think about 767 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:35,280 uh two months ago jay where we asked to 768 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,359 order it so it's in the order now and 769 00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:39,200 that one sweeper is it still not done 770 00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:41,280 yet so we're hoping to get it before the 771 00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:42,800 end of the year hopefully get it for 772 00:40:41,280 --> 00:40:44,800 linda's sentence 773 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:47,040 two of the streams 774 00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:47,040 one 775 00:40:48,079 --> 00:40:52,720 we're gonna have a total we're gonna 776 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:52,720 have a total of four retirement 777 00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,839 any other questions 778 00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:06,800 mr would you have any other questions no 779 00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:09,440 no okay thank you thank you very much 780 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,440 i'll be back 781 00:41:10,319 --> 00:41:15,200 you may have a motion on this 782 00:41:13,359 --> 00:41:17,359 second all in favor 783 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:17,359 aye 784 00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:24,079 the next item is purchasing microphones 785 00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:25,760 for city council with sport appeal yes 786 00:41:24,079 --> 00:41:28,160 um we've been discussing this for a 787 00:41:25,760 --> 00:41:29,920 while um you know mr family brought up 788 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:30,880 like back i think back in november just 789 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:33,040 the whole 790 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:36,240 um 791 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:37,599 not good quality of uh our um our 792 00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:39,119 broadcast 793 00:41:37,599 --> 00:41:40,960 and um i know that it's going to be a 794 00:41:39,119 --> 00:41:43,119 longer process however 795 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,400 uh if you notice i mean i know you all 796 00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:47,040 know this now 797 00:41:44,400 --> 00:41:49,040 we're down to one microphone period in 798 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:51,520 the chambers and that's being shared by 799 00:41:49,040 --> 00:41:52,560 the public as well as by the council 800 00:41:51,520 --> 00:41:55,440 and 801 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:56,480 our last meeting it just reminded me of 802 00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:58,079 a 803 00:41:56,480 --> 00:42:00,000 episode of parks and rec if you've ever 804 00:41:58,079 --> 00:42:03,200 seen it so 805 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:04,800 i really really think that we need um 806 00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:06,960 and highly recommend that we buy at 807 00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:09,760 least two microphones so that the 808 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,960 council is not sharing the microphone 809 00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:14,800 because it looks like it's going to be a 810 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:16,960 longer process for us to um get all the 811 00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:19,119 contracts and all the other things that 812 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:20,319 the mayor was talking about um i did 813 00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:22,240 read an email 814 00:42:20,319 --> 00:42:24,800 um where i know that there were there 815 00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:26,960 was a request for having um these 816 00:42:24,800 --> 00:42:29,359 gooseneck mics but then there was the 817 00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,119 whole thing about running cords which 818 00:42:29,359 --> 00:42:32,400 again is a longer process so i think at 819 00:42:31,119 --> 00:42:34,640 this point in time we need to do 820 00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:36,720 something in the short term and just 821 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,560 have microphones so that the council has 822 00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:40,800 a couple microphones to use 823 00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:42,079 it's just getting more and more 824 00:42:40,800 --> 00:42:44,800 challenging 825 00:42:42,079 --> 00:42:46,400 during our meetings 826 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:49,680 absolutely i have to agree with that 827 00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:51,040 that we need to get new microphones and 828 00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,920 let's work out the detail and getting 829 00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:53,920 the other stuff fixed 830 00:42:55,040 --> 00:43:00,319 yeah so um it's looked into this they 831 00:42:58,720 --> 00:43:01,760 looked into whether or not the 832 00:43:00,319 --> 00:43:02,960 goosenecks 833 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,319 would be 834 00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:06,319 financially 835 00:43:04,319 --> 00:43:07,119 cost effective they are not 836 00:43:06,319 --> 00:43:08,800 um 837 00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:10,880 that was the idea 838 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,760 the wiring process really isn't a big 839 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:14,800 deal 840 00:43:11,760 --> 00:43:14,800 according to it 841 00:43:15,119 --> 00:43:19,920 but the cost is just 842 00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:22,560 well over what two wireless microphones 843 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:25,200 would be i thought maybe since they were 844 00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,319 wired it might be about the same cost 845 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:32,160 but it's not so the two wireless are 846 00:43:28,319 --> 00:43:32,160 slightly less than five hundred dollars 847 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,160 any other comments 848 00:43:34,450 --> 00:43:37,760 [Music] 849 00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:41,119 you may have a motion to proceed to 850 00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:44,160 purchase a new microphone from moving 851 00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:44,160 all in favor all right 852 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:50,720 the next item is amendments to the 2022 853 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:50,720 2020 854 00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:56,640 annual action plan to include a 855 00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:59,280 reallocation of 250 000 from snap and 856 00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:01,280 street paving to park improvement 857 00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:03,200 good evening and happy spring 858 00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:05,119 um this is just in relation to the 859 00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:08,160 public comment period we just had for 860 00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:10,240 the reallocation of 250 000 861 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,560 um from the street painting and snack 862 00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:14,480 programs to park improvements this has 863 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:15,359 to do with ongoing park projects that we 864 00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,280 have 865 00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:19,440 um and the need to kind of spend down 866 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:20,240 the money that was on spend for prior 867 00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,480 years 868 00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:23,920 um so just looking for the council to 869 00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:26,090 approve this amendment and the 870 00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,760 reallocation of the funding 871 00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:31,520 [Music] 872 00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,520 that is 2021 2022 873 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,680 yes okay 874 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,040 oh so that that's a that's a typo on our 875 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,240 agenda 876 00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:40,560 okay 877 00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:40,560 questions 878 00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,160 go ahead please uh so i know at least 879 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:45,760 for me being a new council member 880 00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:47,280 whenever i hear anyone recount 881 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:51,640 reallocating money from the street 882 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,640 paving and smacking like what 883 00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:56,079 um but i didn't know if you were able to 884 00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:57,920 or 885 00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:00,960 chris i was able to come and speak to 886 00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:02,880 just a proportionality of what this 887 00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:04,960 amount of a hundred thousand dollars 888 00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:06,640 being 889 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:08,560 is in comparison to the entire budget i 890 00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:10,000 think just to reassure people that 891 00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:13,280 this is not something that's being made 892 00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:16,240 at the expense of the entire paving sure 893 00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:18,960 uh our paving budget is is well right 894 00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:21,280 now so right now we usually get around 895 00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,040 1.5 million dollars of chips money which 896 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:24,000 is state highway consolidated roads 897 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,680 money 898 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:28,560 in addition to that the new york state 899 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:30,880 budget has allocated an additional 1.2 900 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,160 million dollars to the city for the last 901 00:45:30,880 --> 00:45:34,240 year i believe it's going to be a 902 00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:35,920 three-year program which is additional 903 00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:38,400 chips for state routes but we can use it 904 00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:40,160 for other roads um on top of that in the 905 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:41,839 capital budget which you are just moving 906 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:44,319 forward we also have i believe it's a 907 00:45:41,839 --> 00:45:48,240 million and a half dollars for roadways 908 00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:50,240 and there um so the paving program uh 909 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:51,599 has the money to pave the roads one of 910 00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:53,920 the things that we cannot use this money 911 00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:55,839 for just to be clear is that this is for 912 00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:58,079 contractor work with roadways for 913 00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:59,680 long-term work it can't be used for 914 00:45:58,079 --> 00:46:02,160 potholes 915 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:04,880 so potholes is considered maintenance 916 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:07,040 and maintenance is not eligible for 917 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:09,359 expenses under this money so that is 918 00:46:07,040 --> 00:46:11,119 where we have our operating budgets and 919 00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:13,839 in that kind of money but as far as i'm 920 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:16,480 concerned we are fine for prepaying 921 00:46:13,839 --> 00:46:18,560 roads we actually have two contracts 922 00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,720 starting this year again and we have a 923 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:22,720 third going out in april 924 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:25,280 all of them essentially multi-million 925 00:46:22,720 --> 00:46:27,440 dollar programs 926 00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:29,760 and i guess 927 00:46:27,440 --> 00:46:31,839 we're doing as much work as staff also 928 00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,359 would allow you know like we are pushing 929 00:46:31,839 --> 00:46:34,800 the work out and getting it done so i 930 00:46:33,359 --> 00:46:37,119 don't think that we're doing any 931 00:46:34,800 --> 00:46:38,880 disservice to the citizens connecting by 932 00:46:37,119 --> 00:46:40,880 by reallocating this money i mean this 933 00:46:38,880 --> 00:46:42,560 is development block grant money this is 934 00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,560 money that we do try to use but now that 935 00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:47,280 we're getting increases in other areas 936 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:49,200 i'm perfectly comfortable doing it 937 00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:52,000 thank you 938 00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,000 any other comments 939 00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:58,749 may have a motion 940 00:46:55,570 --> 00:46:58,749 [Music] 941 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,880 health care and national fitness 942 00:47:06,400 --> 00:47:08,880 champion 943 00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:15,200 is um mr city applied for a grant for 944 00:47:11,839 --> 00:47:17,359 the 2022 mvp healthcare campaign um this 945 00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:19,200 is going to be allocated um toward the 946 00:47:17,359 --> 00:47:21,680 purchase of an outdoor fitness port that 947 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:23,599 will go into orbit park as part of the 948 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:26,079 recent involvement there 949 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:28,400 so this is just to accept the fifty 950 00:47:26,079 --> 00:47:30,240 thousand dollar grant from mvp for the 951 00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:32,559 fitness court um to be installed at what 952 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,559 you want 953 00:47:32,559 --> 00:47:37,119 any comments 954 00:47:34,559 --> 00:47:39,520 we have a motion 955 00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:41,280 second all in favor uh 956 00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:44,800 the next item is authorized the 957 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:46,319 allocation of 90 000 cdbg funds 958 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:49,359 for the national fitness campaign 959 00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:50,720 outdoor fitness board misty so related 960 00:47:49,359 --> 00:47:52,880 to um 961 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:54,000 related to the fitness court request 962 00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,119 this would be 963 00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480 um 964 00:47:55,119 --> 00:47:58,240 this would be 965 00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:00,160 the authorization of the ninety thousand 966 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:02,800 dollars to meet the local funders 967 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:05,839 funding requirements for the um for the 968 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:07,680 fitness court and orchard charts so 969 00:48:05,839 --> 00:48:09,200 it's basically just 970 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,800 yeah it's the funding that the city will 971 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:12,960 be contributing towards the fitness 972 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,400 course 973 00:48:12,960 --> 00:48:16,559 any questions 974 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:18,960 go ahead and support you so the 90 000 975 00:48:16,559 --> 00:48:21,200 is coming out of the 250 000 that we 976 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:24,720 just yes 977 00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:27,520 yep okay and then the balance of that 978 00:48:24,720 --> 00:48:30,160 of the 250. 979 00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:32,160 the balance yes the 250 we're using what 980 00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:33,280 is the bet so 90 000 is going to go to 981 00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:36,240 this project 982 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:38,240 so do we um do we have a 983 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:39,599 have we decided where the other uh the 984 00:48:38,240 --> 00:48:41,520 balance of that's going to be allocated 985 00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:44,640 at this time 986 00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:49,280 yeah so some of the right now 987 00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,800 this is that 50 000 for the equipment 988 00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:52,720 then there's going to be installation 989 00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:56,240 costs that are associated with it which 990 00:48:52,720 --> 00:48:57,599 we're procuring through the policy um 991 00:48:56,240 --> 00:49:00,000 we're not going to put this thing 992 00:48:57,599 --> 00:49:02,640 together it's extremely intricate to put 993 00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:04,240 this together so that's anticipated 994 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,920 uh to come out of there and we're 995 00:49:04,240 --> 00:49:08,160 working it has to be we have to get 996 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:10,800 three prices for our policy because it's 997 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:13,040 going to be over 3500 we're anticipating 998 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:14,400 it's going to be less than 35 000 so 999 00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,559 depending on the ranges we're either 1000 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:17,599 going to get verbal or written quotes so 1001 00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:20,079 that's going to come out of there and 1002 00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:21,599 then there is also a pad that goes with 1003 00:49:20,079 --> 00:49:24,720 it because these things are going to be 1004 00:49:21,599 --> 00:49:26,319 mounted to a pad so that also is going 1005 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,559 to be in there which we're also looking 1006 00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:32,000 at either doing pricing for 1007 00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:34,160 our policy so both of those costs um we 1008 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:35,359 don't need your explicit authorization 1009 00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,119 because through the purchasing policy 1010 00:49:35,359 --> 00:49:38,240 will be less than a bit amount but those 1011 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,240 will come out of there and then the 1012 00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:41,680 balance of it is remaining for parks 1013 00:49:40,240 --> 00:49:43,920 particularly if we're looking at jerry 1014 00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:46,319 burell yes and that will be going to the 1015 00:49:43,920 --> 00:49:48,400 dairy rail park so once the project is 1016 00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:50,480 moved forward we have more concrete cost 1017 00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,160 items we can give you an update of what 1018 00:49:50,480 --> 00:49:54,240 the split would be okay but those are 1019 00:49:52,160 --> 00:49:56,079 our anticipated costs right now this is 1020 00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:58,319 because the grant the equipment we have 1021 00:49:56,079 --> 00:49:59,359 kind of set up and the rest of the cost 1022 00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:00,960 we're anticipating we're not going to 1023 00:49:59,359 --> 00:50:02,720 have to bid anything 1024 00:50:00,960 --> 00:50:03,920 um which is going to help us because 1025 00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:05,040 that's going to also save us time 1026 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:07,440 because they know that we really want to 1027 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,520 get this in for the late summer or i 1028 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:12,400 mean late spring early summer 1029 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:14,000 push this so we can use it um but that's 1030 00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:15,599 where we are right now so the balance 1031 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:17,440 that they go over the next part is kind 1032 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,960 of unknown okay so 1033 00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:20,720 thank you 1034 00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:21,760 of course 1035 00:50:20,720 --> 00:50:26,040 yes 1036 00:50:21,760 --> 00:50:26,040 let's go ahead okay please 1037 00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:31,599 is this the remainder of this money 1038 00:50:29,599 --> 00:50:33,520 you're thinking jerry grove 1039 00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,800 we're thinking about that for the likes 1040 00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,800 that we were talking about a couple of 1041 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:38,240 weeks ago and we were talking about some 1042 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:40,960 hardware money uh 1043 00:50:38,240 --> 00:50:40,960 possibly exactly 1044 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:48,400 funding for the park we are the design 1045 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:50,000 is in process so we have kind of an 1046 00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:51,440 estimate but until we put the bid out 1047 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:53,599 we're not going to be we're not going to 1048 00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:56,079 know what the total is going to be um we 1049 00:50:53,599 --> 00:50:57,440 know there's a gap you know i i will say 1050 00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,880 i mean this is like any project that 1051 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,960 you're going to hear from myself or 1052 00:50:58,880 --> 00:51:03,040 chris has been before anyone is that we 1053 00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:04,800 could always use more funds for our 1054 00:51:03,040 --> 00:51:06,880 parks so 1055 00:51:04,800 --> 00:51:09,040 the allocation of this money i would not 1056 00:51:06,880 --> 00:51:10,480 say would preclude us from pulling that 1057 00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,680 because we are going to have to add 1058 00:51:10,480 --> 00:51:13,839 alternatives we're going to be looking 1059 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:15,440 to do more looking at you know there's 1060 00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:17,040 the base and then we're going to put in 1061 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,960 for what we're looking at with that 1062 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,720 alternative design either the tennis 1063 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:23,280 courts or the basketball courts or some 1064 00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:24,720 other things and yes this could be used 1065 00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:26,160 towards the lighting but that may 1066 00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:28,640 prevent us doing one of those other 1067 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:30,559 features so that's where you know as 1068 00:51:28,640 --> 00:51:32,480 much funding as we can as we can get 1069 00:51:30,559 --> 00:51:34,079 towards the project we would like to do 1070 00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,160 so that we can put it as much into the 1071 00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:37,760 park you know i always say to people 1072 00:51:36,160 --> 00:51:39,200 that this is public money this is not 1073 00:51:37,760 --> 00:51:40,079 going to build me fool you know you're 1074 00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:41,760 not going to come to my house and see 1075 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:43,520 anything in my backyard it's all going 1076 00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:44,800 to the public into there so anything 1077 00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,240 that we can give 1078 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,599 you know that would be great you know so 1079 00:51:46,240 --> 00:51:49,680 i would like to hope that it gets 1080 00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:51,680 reviewed on its own merits yeah and that 1081 00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:53,440 if it does then that's great and then to 1082 00:51:51,680 --> 00:51:54,240 maybe get a little bit more 1083 00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,680 yeah 1084 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:57,920 go ahead mr man 1085 00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:59,040 and again just find out mr wallen said 1086 00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:02,400 that the 1087 00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:05,040 design work and jerry work morale park 1088 00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:07,760 is what i'll call the park proper 1089 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:09,920 as i look at it those basketball courts 1090 00:52:07,760 --> 00:52:10,880 as you go farther along hamilton street 1091 00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,800 in 1092 00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:15,760 across the street there 1093 00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:17,040 it's foolish to 1094 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:18,880 fix 1095 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:20,000 this whole area up here and then leave 1096 00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:23,280 this 1097 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:25,119 it's kind of a dilapidated embarrassed 1098 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,400 section across the street 1099 00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:31,200 so as they're doing the work up 1100 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:32,800 and then look at the whole thing 1101 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,960 and 1102 00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:36,079 there's not going to be quite enough 1103 00:52:34,960 --> 00:52:38,559 money 1104 00:52:36,079 --> 00:52:40,480 on the table to do 1105 00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:43,040 everything right now 1106 00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:44,880 but i believe as we come through and get 1107 00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:47,040 some firmer numbers on what we're going 1108 00:52:44,880 --> 00:52:50,400 to actually have to come up with whether 1109 00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:52,319 it's arpa rearranging other things 1110 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:53,680 to make sure that we've got a project 1111 00:52:52,319 --> 00:52:56,160 there that 1112 00:52:53,680 --> 00:52:57,920 does everything we want and that we're 1113 00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:59,359 all going to be 1114 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,119 proud of it and the neighbors are going 1115 00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:02,000 to be appreciative of it 1116 00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:04,240 and 1117 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:07,280 thank you for your consideration on the 1118 00:53:04,240 --> 00:53:09,599 orchard street park uh follow-up to uh 1119 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:11,920 councilmember uh william's suggestion of 1120 00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:14,160 moving the council meetings around 1121 00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:18,160 maybe that we could have one at this 1122 00:53:14,160 --> 00:53:18,160 place and all the council could work out 1123 00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,839 just as a ribbon-cutting myself 1124 00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:32,800 any other questions 1125 00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:34,400 so the remaining is 160 000 i'm sure 1126 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:37,520 you're going to come back to the console 1127 00:53:34,400 --> 00:53:39,839 for allocation for the 160 remaining the 1128 00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:42,640 balance of the 160. oh would we allocate 1129 00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:44,480 that yeah sure okay i mean the 1130 00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,559 application yeah but that's what i'm 1131 00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:48,079 getting here but it's going to be 1132 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:50,000 you might not notice that we're doing it 1133 00:53:48,079 --> 00:53:51,760 so we'll put it up because if we you 1134 00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:54,160 know like when i bring you a paying 1135 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:56,480 program i don't i don't explicitly 1136 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,319 detail the funding of the paving program 1137 00:53:56,480 --> 00:53:59,920 there may be multiple foreign sources a 1138 00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:01,920 lot of times the word we use is a 1139 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:04,079 funding quilt sometimes when i bring 1140 00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:06,319 things such as psat i bring that here 1141 00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:08,160 you know there is federal there's local 1142 00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:10,000 there's metroplex most of the time they 1143 00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:12,160 don't get into that detail but if you 1144 00:54:10,000 --> 00:54:13,920 would like to sort of detail if we can 1145 00:54:12,160 --> 00:54:15,760 yeah if you don't mind just let us know 1146 00:54:13,920 --> 00:54:18,720 how the allocation is going with regards 1147 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:21,119 to the remaining 160 would appreciate it 1148 00:54:18,720 --> 00:54:23,920 any other questions regarding this item 1149 00:54:21,119 --> 00:54:23,920 may have a motion 1150 00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:32,350 [Music] 1151 00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:42,160 development plan 1152 00:54:39,760 --> 00:54:44,480 there's 13 items on the agenda and the 1153 00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:47,920 first item of secret determination for 1154 00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:50,559 barrett street and south avenue yeah 1155 00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:52,319 so this is relation to you know what was 1156 00:54:50,559 --> 00:54:53,680 on the agenda two weeks ago there was 1157 00:54:52,319 --> 00:54:55,119 some questions about the planning 1158 00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:58,160 commission meeting and the minutes for 1159 00:54:55,119 --> 00:55:00,079 that um i did provide those minutes um 1160 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:02,799 you know we didn't see 1161 00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:04,839 as much there wasn't much opposition to 1162 00:55:02,799 --> 00:55:05,839 the project it was more 1163 00:55:04,839 --> 00:55:07,520 questions sort of 1164 00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:09,440 you know reservations about what does 1165 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,319 this mean you know for the neighborhood 1166 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:11,920 and 1167 00:55:10,319 --> 00:55:14,640 you know so hopefully you've had a 1168 00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:18,760 chance to look through that but um 1169 00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:18,760 is there any questions about that 1170 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:23,520 any questions anymore yeah 1171 00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,799 all right then that takes up 1172 00:55:25,760 --> 00:55:28,799 motion 1173 00:55:26,799 --> 00:55:31,200 so 1174 00:55:28,799 --> 00:55:33,440 this this first one would be for the 1175 00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:35,040 same seeker yes for the secret 1176 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:38,400 nope oh second 1177 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:40,400 i'm sorry all those in favor all right 1178 00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:42,640 okay uh the resulting ordinance for bear 1179 00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:44,480 street in south avenue 1180 00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:46,079 um yep related to the same thing this is 1181 00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:47,599 just the recommendation to pass an 1182 00:55:46,079 --> 00:55:51,280 ordinance um changing the zoning 1183 00:55:47,599 --> 00:55:54,240 district from r2 to the c4 1184 00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:56,720 any questions around that 1185 00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:59,280 second all those in favor 1186 00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:01,280 thank you all right thank you 1187 00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,040 okay the next item on the agenda is to 1188 00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:04,480 award three bids and contracts for this 1189 00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:06,960 connected police department fire and 1190 00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:08,160 raid mr wallon 1191 00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,400 so 1192 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:11,119 as uh we may or may not be aware 1193 00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:13,119 the 1194 00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:14,880 seneca police department actually has a 1195 00:56:13,119 --> 00:56:15,920 firing range 1196 00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:18,079 fire 1197 00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:19,040 has not functioned in quite some time 1198 00:56:18,079 --> 00:56:21,440 um 1199 00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:22,960 chief sieber did receive a grant to uh 1200 00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,240 upgrade the facility and get it back to 1201 00:56:22,960 --> 00:56:26,079 functioning we have been working with a 1202 00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:29,280 consultant taking a little longer than 1203 00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:31,440 we hoped but we have finally put out a 1204 00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:33,440 bid for the work 1205 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:34,799 what you may see is there are actually 1206 00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:37,280 four given the 1207 00:56:34,799 --> 00:56:39,119 amount of money that this contract is it 1208 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:42,160 is a essentially 1209 00:56:39,119 --> 00:56:44,079 a million dollar contract in a way 1210 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:46,400 we have to follow wick's law which 1211 00:56:44,079 --> 00:56:47,920 separates all of the 1212 00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,480 duties there's mechanical there's 1213 00:56:47,920 --> 00:56:51,760 electrical plumbing in general 1214 00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:53,920 we put it out 1215 00:56:51,760 --> 00:56:56,559 we called it a 1216 00:56:53,920 --> 00:56:59,440 firing range ventilation upgrade we got 1217 00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:01,440 three we did not get a gc bit 1218 00:56:59,440 --> 00:57:03,839 we think that was due to the fact that 1219 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,359 it was called spd 1220 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:07,680 ventilation because the majority of the 1221 00:57:05,359 --> 00:57:09,920 work is in here's ventilation but the gc 1222 00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:12,160 component we did not get any prices so 1223 00:57:09,920 --> 00:57:13,760 we met with aaron and we discussed it 1224 00:57:12,160 --> 00:57:15,440 and we said we were comfortable with 1225 00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:16,720 these bids they were 1226 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:18,240 actually i think a little less than our 1227 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,160 estimate they're contractors that we've 1228 00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:22,880 worked with so what we're doing is we're 1229 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:24,960 putting out the gc pro on wednesday with 1230 00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:26,960 a new title called 1231 00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,119 firing range reconstruction because we 1232 00:57:26,960 --> 00:57:31,359 want to hit the ticklers on the web to 1233 00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:33,760 make sure that gc see it 1234 00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:35,200 so this is three of the four they are 1235 00:57:33,760 --> 00:57:37,440 independent 1236 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:39,680 and then once we have the gc back and 1237 00:57:37,440 --> 00:57:40,799 awarded we can begin the project 1238 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:42,960 so 1239 00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:45,599 are there questions mr probably yeah so 1240 00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,599 the group covers the entire cost of this 1241 00:57:45,599 --> 00:57:50,000 no okay the grant covers a portion of 1242 00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:51,839 the cost we're going to be using uh in 1243 00:57:50,000 --> 00:57:53,359 our capital budget not 1244 00:57:51,839 --> 00:57:56,000 in our capital budget we have a 1245 00:57:53,359 --> 00:57:58,400 facilities line item for city facilities 1246 00:57:56,000 --> 00:58:00,240 we'll be using the city's facilities 1247 00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:02,880 line to cover that portion of them 1248 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:06,960 because the grant 1249 00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:08,799 the grant was for let's say the 1250 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,520 pertinence is inside of it the the 1251 00:58:08,799 --> 00:58:13,119 tracks the burn those things but as we 1252 00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:13,920 started researching 1253 00:58:13,119 --> 00:58:15,760 um 1254 00:58:13,920 --> 00:58:18,079 the actual ventilation 1255 00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:20,000 the engineering components of how to get 1256 00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:23,119 air flow how to make sure that when you 1257 00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:25,520 shoot the lead goes down range the fumes 1258 00:58:23,119 --> 00:58:27,200 go out we have a hepa filtration system 1259 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,200 it's actually you know a lot more 1260 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,359 advanced than it is so we put the 1261 00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:32,559 capital budget together to cover those 1262 00:58:31,359 --> 00:58:34,160 costs 1263 00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:35,760 so it's once again 1264 00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:38,880 a couple different fund sources like we 1265 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:40,720 say but we we do have it together um and 1266 00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:42,079 uh we're going to be ready to move 1267 00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:43,680 forward but no the grant couldn't it 1268 00:58:42,079 --> 00:58:45,520 didn't cover all of it because the cost 1269 00:58:43,680 --> 00:58:47,599 just went up we also had uh you weren't 1270 00:58:45,520 --> 00:58:49,760 here at the time about two years ago um 1271 00:58:47,599 --> 00:58:51,920 there was lead in asbestos 1272 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:54,079 we used a good amount of money i led an 1273 00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:56,160 asbestos abatement to 1274 00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:58,400 evade the whole area and clean it up we 1275 00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,319 had to clean the floors actually mop 1276 00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,160 them like several times to get let off 1277 00:59:00,319 --> 00:59:04,720 the floor so it's a it's an interesting 1278 00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:06,720 process but it is going to be uh you 1279 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,559 know a very functioning range that they 1280 00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,480 can use hopefully for the next you know 1281 00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:12,400 30 40 years so that's what we're hoping 1282 00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,839 for but um this is for the three and 1283 00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:16,160 then i'll be bringing you the fourth 1284 00:59:13,839 --> 00:59:18,240 once we have it in a couple of weeks and 1285 00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,000 then from there we'll move forward with 1286 00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:21,520 hopefully construction get get it all 1287 00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:23,359 functioning again 1288 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:25,680 any other questions mr what's it aaron 1289 00:59:23,359 --> 00:59:27,839 yeah just uh talking aside with mr 1290 00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:30,720 colding i think we should pass this in 1291 00:59:27,839 --> 00:59:34,640 individual um contract one e 1292 00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:36,960 sorry 1b 1c and 1d there are separate um 1293 00:59:34,640 --> 00:59:38,720 subcontractors yeah that'd be great 1294 00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:40,640 so three three approvals i would like to 1295 00:59:38,720 --> 00:59:42,559 recommend that we do them individually 1296 00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,640 okay 1297 00:59:42,559 --> 00:59:45,520 are there any other questions before i 1298 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,599 no 1299 00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:50,559 okay so first of all i'll entertain a 1300 00:59:47,599 --> 00:59:54,000 motion on contract one b 1301 00:59:50,559 --> 00:59:56,319 so second all those in favor all right 1302 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:58,160 uh second uh and shiny motion on 1303 00:59:56,319 --> 00:59:58,799 contract 1c 1304 00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:01,359 so 1305 00:59:58,799 --> 01:00:03,680 second all those in favor all right 1306 01:00:01,359 --> 01:00:05,520 and finally uh concerning motion on 1307 01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,319 contract one and d 1308 01:00:05,520 --> 01:00:08,400 so 1309 01:00:06,319 --> 01:00:09,680 second all those in favor all right all 1310 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,720 right thank you 1311 01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,799 all right and we'll just make sure 1312 01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,119 that's reflected in there all right 1313 01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:17,280 thank you um the 1314 01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:19,200 next item on the agenda is the award 1315 01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:21,599 vision contracts with the bail park 1316 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:23,520 improvement uh project phase two 1317 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:25,280 yes thank you so this you you might 1318 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,440 recall seeing this before 1319 01:00:25,280 --> 01:00:29,599 um this is actually the third time we've 1320 01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:31,599 bid this hopefully the last thing is 1321 01:00:29,599 --> 01:00:33,760 we're talking about bail park tree 1322 01:00:31,599 --> 01:00:36,240 removal um 1323 01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:38,000 previously we had a discrepancy in the 1324 01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:39,599 bid documents that meant that we had to 1325 01:00:38,000 --> 01:00:41,599 rebid it there was some language that 1326 01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:45,200 got left in from the previous bid 1327 01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:48,319 we did receive three bids the bids were 1328 01:00:45,200 --> 01:00:50,559 almost identical than before 1329 01:00:48,319 --> 01:00:53,119 the low is still the same as the second 1330 01:00:50,559 --> 01:00:54,480 time that we bid it the cost per tree 1331 01:00:53,119 --> 01:00:56,960 might have actually come down a little 1332 01:00:54,480 --> 01:00:58,640 bit but uh and then this particular 1333 01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:00,160 bidder we're doing they just to let you 1334 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:01,760 in behind the curtain a little bit we're 1335 01:01:00,160 --> 01:01:03,920 doing something to a little bit more 1336 01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:05,839 proactive on my office where we're 1337 01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:07,920 receiving the bids we are not 1338 01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:09,839 immediately rushing them to this table 1339 01:01:07,920 --> 01:01:11,119 so we receive the bids on wednesday we 1340 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:13,359 used to bring them right to the 1341 01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:15,119 legislative and then monday so now what 1342 01:01:13,359 --> 01:01:16,799 we're doing is we're taking a step back 1343 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:18,400 we're working with ron 1344 01:01:16,799 --> 01:01:20,240 and we're really making sure that we 1345 01:01:18,400 --> 01:01:22,559 have all of our utilization paperwork 1346 01:01:20,240 --> 01:01:24,319 that ron's having a moment to vet them a 1347 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:26,400 little bit more thoroughly and then 1348 01:01:24,319 --> 01:01:28,000 we're moving forward so in this case 1349 01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:29,599 uh they've been working with ron 1350 01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,119 actually for four weeks because they 1351 01:01:29,599 --> 01:01:32,960 knew that we had to rebid it and i 1352 01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:34,400 believe that you've been happy with the 1353 01:01:32,960 --> 01:01:35,920 progress that you've seen you've had 1354 01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:38,079 some good emails back and forth they now 1355 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:40,400 have what three subs that they're going 1356 01:01:38,079 --> 01:01:42,720 to be using absolutely 1357 01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:43,760 so um so that's kind of a new process 1358 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:46,400 you're not going to see things coming 1359 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:48,000 here as fast because instead of us 1360 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:50,559 awarding and then going through the 1361 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,160 process we're going to go through the 1362 01:01:50,559 --> 01:01:54,000 process make sure we're on the same page 1363 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,599 then award just so that we don't get 1364 01:01:54,000 --> 01:01:57,520 caught in any kind of a you know the 1365 01:01:55,599 --> 01:01:58,880 carrot is the award 1366 01:01:57,520 --> 01:02:01,039 so we want to make sure that we're doing 1367 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:02,559 it in that process and so it's worked in 1368 01:02:01,039 --> 01:02:03,440 this process we're doing it a couple 1369 01:02:02,559 --> 01:02:04,319 others 1370 01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:05,839 so 1371 01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:07,920 well thank you for that consideration 1372 01:02:05,839 --> 01:02:09,839 sure is that just a question so is that 1373 01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:11,920 a best practice that they can do moving 1374 01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:13,680 forward for all projects or just kind of 1375 01:02:11,920 --> 01:02:15,680 my office sure yeah 1376 01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:16,880 that's what we've started to do and i 1377 01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,160 think it's worked better that way don't 1378 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,160 you ron yeah absolutely 1379 01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:28,480 all right the remaining items are all 1380 01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:30,480 for property sales and we'll be um 1381 01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:32,319 an executive session so i'd like to 1382 01:02:30,480 --> 01:02:34,559 entertain a motion to recess 1383 01:02:32,319 --> 01:02:37,119 so second all of the favorite 1384 01:02:34,559 --> 01:02:37,119 we're reset 1385 01:02:37,280 --> 01:02:40,280 so 1386 01:02:49,920 --> 01:02:54,240 yeah 1387 01:02:50,799 --> 01:02:56,559 yeah so i would like to get a motion 1388 01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,559 second 1389 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:01,119 oh 1390 01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:01,119 all in favor 1391 01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,839 interest 1392 01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:11,599 related to uh foreclosure action the 1393 01:03:09,839 --> 01:03:14,240 other one is a claim 1394 01:03:11,599 --> 01:03:17,039 okay so so are you saying they're both 1395 01:03:14,240 --> 01:03:18,400 should be an executive session okay um 1396 01:03:17,039 --> 01:03:20,480 with regard to 1397 01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:23,839 number four that from government 1398 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:26,319 operations earlier yeah 1399 01:03:23,839 --> 01:03:28,079 i don't know exactly what the discussion 1400 01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:29,599 is around 1401 01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:31,680 i just want to make sure that it's 1402 01:03:29,599 --> 01:03:34,400 covered by executive session it has to 1403 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:36,079 fall within the scope of what's allowed 1404 01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:38,000 under open meetings law 1405 01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:41,039 um so i don't know the scope of you know 1406 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:43,520 well i i talked to mayor batman and so 1407 01:03:41,039 --> 01:03:44,720 um so what we would be discussing we me 1408 01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:45,920 too 1409 01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:49,440 um 1410 01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:49,440 it's it's around personnel 1411 01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:57,440 i mean personnel generally is could be 1412 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:59,280 discussed in executive session yeah can 1413 01:03:57,440 --> 01:04:00,880 yes it can 1414 01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,200 it depends on the level of detail 1415 01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,559 obviously i you know without me knowing 1416 01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:06,559 the level of detail or you know 1417 01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:13,839 but i'll you know obviously um 1418 01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:15,839 i'll i'll defer to you um on the 1419 01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:19,280 discussion um obviously things related 1420 01:04:15,839 --> 01:04:21,599 to employees and 1421 01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:24,240 employment history 1422 01:04:21,599 --> 01:04:26,559 is privy to executive session 1423 01:04:24,240 --> 01:04:28,880 um it is around employees i can say that 1424 01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:28,880 i guess 1425 01:04:30,400 --> 01:04:34,720 okay i'm part of that yep as one make 1426 01:04:32,960 --> 01:04:36,319 sure yes 1427 01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:39,319 so i think we're in 1428 01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:39,319 yeah 1429 01:04:40,250 --> 01:04:43,469 [Music] 1430 01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:15,920 you