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thank you sheriff our first order of

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business this evening is our prayer
which will be led by commissioner

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huffine immediately following the prayer
will be the pledge led by commissioner

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character
those power heads

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dear lord we come before you this
evening

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thankful and hopeful
hopeful of the beautiful weather

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the spring that is out there the
sunshine the warmth that it brings to

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your lord
let that rejuvenate our spirits lord to

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serve you in even a stronger way tonight
bless us and all the people that are

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presenting here this evening
lead god and direct us to the lord in

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your name we pray amen amen
let's address our flag

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i pray for
jesus of the united states of america

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and to the republic which stands one
nation under god indivisible with

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liberty and justice wrong

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madam clerk would you switch us to the
roll call screen i guess we're there

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this is now ancient protocol

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jimmy you have an answer
it hasn't got you

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is not picking you up let me get you a
fresh battery

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you better make that two batteries
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no

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must have voted so much that last
meeting my battery went dude

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that sounded right

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yeah commissioner tester's uh absent

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oh yes thank you kathy

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today

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i think they're correct

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all right

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is this a new screen
i don't think that's the same screen

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you'd actually see but
yeah it's not normally the same screen

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some of it i can't see
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we have 10 present five apps we do have
a quorum

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at this time we'll move into public
comment uh regarding agenda items

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uh do we have any agenda
sign ups for public comment

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so our next item is elected officials
and department heads are going to

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address the commission this evening
regarding their fy 2223 budget

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mitch we'll go ahead and start with you
and talk about appropriations

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our mayor

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i think i had mitch on the agenda mayor
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he was gonna get off the hook see

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into the courthouse with
10 arm loads full of stuff lost his

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footing and
did a face plant on one of the steps so

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commissioner huffine i should have told
you because we do need to say a prayer

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for mitch but he is
um alive and well i spoke to him

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recently and he'll be here shortly um
probably to rescue me but anyway

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hopefully to rescue me
he

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and
well i i think we need headgear on the

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steps so that's that is
hopefully we can find a little room in

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the budget for that but he'll be here
shortly so but

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in order to get going the the first
thing that he was going to talk about

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was the appropriations i really don't
know what he was going to say

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specifically but
it's on a separate sheet

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you know these are your fire departments
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animal control and a number of other
things

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if there are
if if there's any line on here that

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you would like to
have presented by

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somebody
you know from the outside somebody knows

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more about it if you want to hear
something about the fire departments for

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example we might ask charlie and we'll
do our best to get them here tomorrow

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night
to to address any particular concerns so

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mr chairman before the end of the
meeting as people think about that

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we
maybe could just capture

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anybody on here that
you'd like to hear from specifically

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about
their request

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and we'll try to get them here tomorrow
night okay we'll do that mayor before we

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and so the only other thing that i would
add um before we start tonight you'll

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hear presentations from various
departments or elected officials

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where about their budget so all of you
have received their budget as presented

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so far i have to tell you it's very
fluid

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information
was still changing yesterday afternoon

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at five o'clock
and we'll we'll change further before we

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have a final version but
directionally i think what you have in

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front of you is going to be accurate
from these department heads these are

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the people that
in the general fund spend the taxpayers

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money and and a few that are out of the
general fund solid waste is here for

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example we'll also hear from the highway
department those are separate funds

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apart from the general fund
but the general fund as you know makes

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up
about 42 to 44 million dollars worth of

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government spend these are
these are really all

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taxpayers dollars so
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the things you might think about when
these folks are presenting is what

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they're presenting does it make does it
make sense to you have specific

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questions do you feel like they're
overspending

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or underspending in any particular line
do they have adequate resources to do

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their job these are the folks that
provide the services

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for our citizens they do the car tags
they do the

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registration of deeds they do the
planning and zoning all all of the

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government
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i don't look too bad
all right i was expecting like a

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zombie look so a good deal

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all right
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do you want to say anything i've talked
about the appropriations to the point

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that if there's anybody on here they
want to specifically

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hear from we'll try to get them tomorrow
and then given just a little

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address about the the presentations and
um so again these are the folks that

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spend
the money that you appropriate

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and so
that's really what we're focused on in

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this next few days or expenditures
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uh will be another time
so anyway thank you and mitch i'm sorry

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thank you mayor thank you

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y'all

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um i know this is a lot of stuff and you
just got it this morning

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um
but as i've been telling all of our

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all of our officials and department
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you know coming in to speak to you all i
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this is a process
you know what you're going to hear today

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is really the initial pass at these
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um and then as we move forward and
you know the budget committee and the

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commission will come up with a
a budget that's uh balanced and provides

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the services it needs to the
citizens of washington county

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uh
did you talk about anything in here

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other than the special appropriations
schedule on the front

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okay what you have in here if you
haven't had a chance to look at it

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is um
of course the very first page there's a

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table of contents on the front first
pages of special appropriations

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immediately behind that
you'll see a summary of our general fund

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expenditures

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2020

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21 actual numbers
compared to year-to-date 22

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compared to the original and revised
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and then the budget number that has been
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from the various departments and
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and so you can it's a two-page summary
page three um

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highlight of this is that
we started last year with a a budget of

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44.9 million dollars
in the general fund and expenditures

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our budget today is 49.6
that increase is

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2.6 million dollars for broadband
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1.6 million alright i'm having my senior
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the industrial park
okay so that's what those were the big

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bumps from your original budget
449 to where you are today 49.6 million

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y'all stop me anytime if you got
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one thing i would
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probably maybe at the end tomorrow
evening before we get to that moment you

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know my concern is is
twofold it all centers around inflation

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i'm concerned what inflation is going to
do to our taxpayers and their abilities

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because i i saw in the businesses this
morning they're saying

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consumers this year will spend probably
two thousand dollars more on gasoline

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they're gonna they're gonna spend about
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on food
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yeah the housing costs are going up
interest rates going up i'm concerned

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about
the effect it's going to have on our

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taxpayers and then the second thing is
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and that is
what what adverse effect

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will inflation have
in terms i look at gasoline

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and diesel what is going to go up
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that's the number one thing i hear from
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you know their their employees are just
not able to stay even with inflation so

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you know just kind of
an overall view how this affects the

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county the county's budget you know the
the county is made up of operations not

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unlike households
you know i mean you're we're going to

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have a chat i think you are going to
have somewhat of a challenge on the

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on the revenue side and on the the
service delivery expenditure side um

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we've got some departments um they've
gone ahead and doubled their gasoline uh

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budget for next year um
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the whole budget it's not a huge number
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1.9 1.4 something like that
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it is
real dollars

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and so um
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that's just something
you know

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hopefully you all with some help from us
can work through that you know through

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that uh process and so you know that's
what we're here to do

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mayor
thank you

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on uh in regard to that
that's really a great

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segue into a lot of the things we'll be
discussing today because what she said

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is so very true food
you've already seen have made an

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adjustment in jail
i mean just to get through this this

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fiscal year
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what that's going to look like next year
you'll see

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let's see
what i'd ask the department to do refuel

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is to essentially double last year's
budget

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and we'll hope we don't have to add too
much more to it

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but in order to maintain consistency
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in regards to salaries uh
pulled all the elected officials

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department kids together several
months ago now

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talk through that a little bit
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i asked for them and i think
what you'll see in these presentations

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is what they believe they need
to keep their peace

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with the understanding that
we don't maintain some sort of a

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competitive wage
uh we'll lose our people military lineup

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we hired people at higher prices anyway
and various officers have various

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links to conversations who were trained
from cbt-18

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and so
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a big quality
employees

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encounter we want to eat
because it's very expensive to change as

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all of us

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so that those were the the
suggestions

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and it is perfect for what she said
because the authority ties in so

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you know
we're responsible for trying to manage a

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government to provide services to the
citizens that

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are paying for their services in the
most sufficient way possible so

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that that may be some things that you
all look for in these presentations and

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feel free to ask any questions

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have you gotten any information from the
state

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the other thing i'm worried about is
that with the cost of food the cost of

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gasoline cost of housing and heating
your house consumers are going to have

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less
discretionary income to spend and we are

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an income tax driven state
now as the state said anything to you

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about what they think
that that might affect our sales tax

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collections
uh i have not commissioned no i i

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haven't been plugged into any of that um
you know you could you know you've got

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inflationary costs which you know
numbers are going up and

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that in and of itself would increase
sales tax you know

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well yeah
but they got a lot of yeah so

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you know
food gas

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right whatever yeah yeah but i have not
no the only thing i've gotten from the

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state to date is the fact that they
lowered

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uh the the uh
the

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comptroller or the department of revenue
lillard the state treasurer

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lowered the uh they had a banner year
they had the best year return in their

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uh investment portfolio and y'all may
have heard some of this at ctas or

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something but you know it's the best
year they've ever had

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in 25 30 years well but they've lowered
their investment rate of return by

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percent or percent and a half well when
they do that that drove our

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pension contribution up uh by about 25

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one thing i want to add to that i
i watched that as well as you did and

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and just whereas they're changing some
of the metrics in there as well uh one

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thing that goes against us a little bit
we're living too long and uh and with

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with those metrics going back in there
and changing those metrics uh retirement

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plans are having to last longer and that
was

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well i think we're all going to suffer
on that that little bit and with an

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older pool of employees because there's
not as much time to get those dollars in

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yeah it's uh
there's a lot of a lot of metrics that

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that were affected on that retirement
plan so um that's what i've heard from

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the state today commissioner carrier it
really wasn't good

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oh
malone did you have a question

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well it related to the the retirement
issue the tcrs

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i mean 25 is a significant increase but
and i saw that in your email but i

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wasn't sure what that meant in term for
the county as a whole in terms of

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dollars do you have an idea
oh don't hold me to this i i ran the

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number
several days ago i flipped since then i

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was just rough ran i want to say it's
close to a half a million dollars for

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the general fund so that's a little
south of that

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an added almost half a million dollar
expense

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just tied to retirement funding
the other thought and this i guess just

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echoes commissioner carriger is

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at least as long and i think it predates
me but at least as long as i've been on

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the commission
our revenues have been growing roughly

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and i feel handicapped without the
whiteboard i mean

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but our revenues have been growing
around one to one point two percent and

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that's the property tax revenues
but our expenses have been growing

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really our expenses have been growing
previous inflation we're experiencing

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now
are expensive and growing about three

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and a half or four percent
so revenue is 1.2 but expenses you know

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significantly higher but with
with the inflationary pressures we're

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seeing now the problem the county has
already been experiencing

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is only worse because now our expenses
are going to be growing probably double

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of what they have been and so it it is
an issue and one of the bright spots i

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think commissioner carriger was
referencing sales tax one of the bright

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spots in the county has been the fact
that sales tax receipts have been up

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significantly
but none of that increase flows to the

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county's general fund
correct so that

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in terms of the funding mechanism when
sales tax receipts are up it doesn't

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necessarily benefit the county general
fund

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thank you correct
um behind that um excuse me behind that

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expenditure summary i'll start on page
four are all the uh individual

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departments within the general fund
um and you can see the

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particular details uh salaries benefits
whatnot

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and then you'll have starting on page 75
the information for the solid waste fund

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which i think we'll hear from
from lewis maybe tomorrow if i remember

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correctly and then the highway
department starts on 79 which i believe

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johnny's on tap for tomorrow as well uh
something i did want to run that put in

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there that i thought might be of
interest to you is on page 87.

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if you want to flip to that um what that
does is is actually summarizes our

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budgets and actual numbers
for the general fund solid waste and

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highway fund in in various
um categories in terms of

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you know where we're talking salaries
and personnel benefits or we're talking

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you know
other charges construction capital

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outlay and you can kind of see where
those numbers fall out

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depending on which number you use as a
base

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um
for our budget in the general fund it's

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somewhere between 61 and 79. excuse me
61 and 69

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of your budget is um
is personnel cost

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benefits and salaries and wages

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and then immediately behind that is just
some errata or addenda um

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i didn't put into your pack at all the
actual worksheets that the departments

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sent but if they did provide some
explanation or or a

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request or some written document um to
outline what their needs are those are

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on those last oh i guess what last
almost 25 pages

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um
which you're more than welcome and there

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they are in the order in the same order
that the departments are listed in our

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general fund budget
um

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one thing i also have in the office that
i don't have in this packet but we'll be

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more than glad to send anybody that
wants one or wants them is

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from our special appropriations
we generally get a request and you know

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they may they may say you know we're
budgeted us at the same thing that you

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budgeted us last year or they may have
some reason or explanation for

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increasing their ask uh i'm more than
happy to you know get that for you all

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tomorrow if you think you'd like to see
those

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fire departments
ems 9-1-1

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you know those other
agencies

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libraries
so

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i'll bring those tomorrow
just thinking through that uh

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i don't have anything else at this point
um

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we're a little early so um do you want
any questions or yeah i just uh if i did

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but i
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number since last year when we did our
bonuses

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okay

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well mitch we appreciate you being here
and all right we'll uh we'll go ahead

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and get started with our assessor's
office

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chief deputy is here with us this
evening uh chief deputy mcguire's here

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glad for him to be here with us
robbie appreciate you

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taking some time to come talk with us
this evening my pleasure my pleasure

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yes sir
and uh scott regrets that he is not able

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to attend tonight
wishes you all will

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tell we'd rather see you then oh sure
okay um

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well you've fall seen our budget and
everything so

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if you've had if you got any questions
i'll be happy to go over anything

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it looks like you have a request

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yes good question okay
we need to run some new ports some more

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ports into our office but our switch
that we currently have

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will not support it
so whoever

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requests it has to pay for it
so that's going to come out of our

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budget
so that's why the additional funds and

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the reason we asked i asked for 15 is
because it could not actually give us a

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figure at that time
because the way the data

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the equipment and everything the
shorthandedness

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uh and everything's going up
so that's why we just can't i just came

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up with a figure i don't know that would
be a bcti question and they

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couldn't get back with does this budget
on pages 19 and 20 look pretty much like

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your normal request your year and then
this is the only real

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um
well we just we always break down unless

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there's a change and we always break
down our changes every year to as far as

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what we're actually changing everything
else should pretty much be the same

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right
the gap the fuel we did double our fuel

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because we don't know
um what to expect

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and

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as far as the vehicles i
like we've got a

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our uh

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i say the focus it's an 07 focus it's
still out of commission

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it's been out of commission now for over
a year and a half

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still waiting on a chip
um you know we got an o6 explorer and

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it's got a right at 70 000 miles on it
or 65 000.

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so we do have some older vehicles we're
just trying to

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to weed out
as we go

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there is

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and the reason
because it why

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like increases of existing
employees around 33 and then about 37

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for the new
position

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i don't know that we're not looking to
hire two

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two new positions

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is this overall

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well
i didn't have anything to do with the

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with
that necessarily no i'm not saying i'm

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saying bottom line

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um

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the reappraisal program

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on the reappraisal side yes but you got
to remember the cities paid part of that

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too
johnson city and

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jonesboro on that
so that's why everything that we have we

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as far as
vehicles and things like that the fields

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feel people take out the field
appraisers

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it is out of the reappraisal program
can you explain that

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on the represent program the health
insurance going up 78

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probably because of the new hires
well how many how many deputies are in

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that department the reappraisal program
all the three so we got

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should be

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eight

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it
and is the new higher the new position

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is it in that program or is it over yes
it'll be in the reappraisal program okay

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so we're going from eight to nine
no probably ten

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it should be two two
new positions okay

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but you know the the salaries are going
up

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line item 33
and understood that the explanation for

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that being the two do but for the health
insurance to go up 78

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that doesn't match up with we're just
doing two new hires

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where's mitch he might have an answer
that i have no idea

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well i mean as far as the why the

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insurance would be different i have no
idea

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i mean it's not going to be here
tomorrow night

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no
no

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okay what time tomorrow night i think we
start

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just uh yeah we start at five if you can
be here uh

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and we go on to seven o'clock tomorrow
night too i think or 7 30.

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one other question while we're looking
at them the

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the increase in the data processing
equipment from

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um
5 000 to 38 000

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is that
a portion of that is a portion of that

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the fifteen thousand yes back here yes
but that so that

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that's about half of it but what what's
the rest of that for uh that would be

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also on the uh back here in the very
back

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for a plotter and a new copier

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because the data processing
equipment we have on there for 15 000

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and then we have a new
uh

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a new
plotter and a new copier

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so that would be a total another 18 000.

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is that on page 100 uh yes sir
and

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and does that
does the car show up somewhere

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cars also on that same page

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it just it just looks a little squirrely
though

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help help employ health care insurance
this is about twelve thousand eight

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eighty one for four
next year

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do you have any idea on that
what that would be um

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well we really the only thing we would
have changed health insurance for

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would have been um

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if they were if they were adding and i
think you are you've got either two or

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three um
folks coming on board one replace bound

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uh then
and then there were two other positions

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in your budget
well if we're budgeting for a new

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employee
i don't know if they're taking family

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family plus one
or

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i mean employee employee plus one or
family or they're covered under their

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you know spouses so that that's what is
probably driving that is that

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if you've added
employees and they none of that good

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question because none of the departments
have really done any work on their

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pension
or their uh

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employee health insurance and just they
just don't have that day to do that uh

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and it's just easy for us to do it based
on their

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on the number of employees they have or
they're expecting to have and so that's

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what's generating that is he hiring two
or three

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because they were asking me they looked
like a 38 percent in yeah and salary so

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and i don't know if i remember right i
don't know if you have

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the stuff i said scott if you have i
don't pay your own sheets i don't

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yeah i i think he's been been left
and so he was feeling ben's position and

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i think there were two more okay so a
total of three three three new salaries

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yes

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that the county pays for is close to 20
000. yes

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well and i i think this question is
deserving of an answer and that that's

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all i am

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oh no
uh well

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statutorily wise
the assessor is statutory statutorily

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allocated
uh one

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um
deputy for

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every 4 500 parcels
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we could actually have like 14 people

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no no that's a partial count

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because of the increase in people moving
here

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the the increase in sales this
this

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my question is
okay

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we build 600 homes
and who's going to pick them

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up i'm sorry
and that's a growth percentage of

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10
and we're adding

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20 head count
that doesn't fall and maybe we're right

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in line with percentages
of growth versus head count and work in

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the office
that's just my question are we growing

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at the same weight
you know i understand

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you can ask for
you know and justify that

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but
that's my question are we growing at the

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same rate or are we going at a larger
rate

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count versus we are growing
we are growing

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to give you
and i did this

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from january
of

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2020
to today in in 2020

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there was 885 deeds that came into our
office

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in 21 there was 1 338
okay

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that's how much growth so
what that

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so what's happening is the growth
that's not counting

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the subdivisions and everything else
that's coming on

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all the new growth and everything
we have been working on a skeleton crew

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for many years you know we all know what
happened in nine

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we know what happened in 14.
now you know all of a sudden we had

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coped everything done
so we got through all that now all of a

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sudden
we just can't keep up

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the the amount of growth
is just unreal

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but just to see your head count grow
well okay

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to give to give you an idea every county
the size of our county

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has two mappers we have one that's me
okay

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and i can't keep up i can't well wait a
minute i can't keep up

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i mean right now mitch
how much time do i have

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oh
no i know i'm just saying how much how

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many hours i mean i'm coming in at six
o'clock and working at 4 30 because just

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to get the job done
so now we can't

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what do you mean well i mean if you're
working 60 hours a week

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that's

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80 hours so it's really not a full
person now benefits i get benefits

467
00:38:21,359 --> 00:38:27,599
so that's my question the other question
is

468
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:30,400
did you have you all have a fun balance
no

469
00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:33,359
no
we're not a fee office

470
00:38:35,839 --> 00:38:42,480
go ahead
i i realized now that i was looking at

471
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,280
the appraisal piece and i thank you
reference to me

472
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:47,280
it's the appraisal

473
00:38:51,359 --> 00:39:00,880
to the proposed 924
so that's an increase of about 254 000.

474
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:05,280
but i guess i'm seeing the expenses
there the increase is going to be stairs

475
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:09,839
but i'm not seeing the associated
revenue that comes

476
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:15,800
from the city or the town
correct

477
00:39:10,880 --> 00:39:15,800
that they they build they build that

478
00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:32,000
yes that's why i stood up uh is not half
it's about a third maybe a little bit

479
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:35,440
more than that it's based on the number
of partials within each jurisdiction can

480
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:40,160
you read that number
uh yeah

481
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,320
the partials four
the

482
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:53,440
what is it now what are you replacing it
with

483
00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:58,560
more than likely the uh
2006 explorer

484
00:39:55,599 --> 00:40:05,520
okay it's got a bad transmission
and knowing where we are with with fuel

485
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:08,960
cost and that have we looked at
alternative vehicles that may be

486
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:13,440
suitable
better mileage

487
00:40:11,599 --> 00:40:16,640
and i think that'd be a question i would
ask to

488
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:21,280
i mean such as the department i don't
know that's what i'm asking

489
00:40:19,760 --> 00:40:25,440
what's i mean
explore it's not the most economical oh

490
00:40:23,280 --> 00:40:30,000
no we won't replace it with an explorer
we'll probably get what we uh

491
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:34,599
like the escapes what we have now okay
and that was my question oh okay make

492
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:34,599
sense

493
00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:40,760
[Music]

494
00:40:47,599 --> 00:40:52,800
so does uh
mr character does that answer your

495
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:57,119
question about the employees and stuff
do i need to come back tomorrow

496
00:40:54,720 --> 00:41:00,480
no we're good we're hiring four new boys
ted

497
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:04,480
should be three three three here
i'm

498
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:08,160
i'm fine okay
let me ask a question on that

499
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:12,560
you all kept talking about
one person leaving

500
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:18,599
and replacing them and two new so is
that really three new or is that two new

501
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:18,599
positions

502
00:41:36,240 --> 00:41:43,599
well and what we did is
when covert hit that's when

503
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:46,480
when barbara left
you know when colbot hit everything so

504
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:49,520
we were down to one and we stayed
because the courthouse was locked down

505
00:41:47,839 --> 00:41:55,119
and everything so all that all that
traffic and everything we didn't have so

506
00:41:51,040 --> 00:41:59,040
we had a minimal traffic
correctly because i was just thinking of

507
00:41:56,960 --> 00:42:05,359
the field of appraisal you do have two
you got two field appraisers replacing

508
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:05,359
being in a new map

509
00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:11,760
so was that three that would be the
other three three three okay

510
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:20,640
we talked about it but i wasn't sure
which direction he went

511
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:20,640
is the back of some of your farmers

512
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:30,480
is that something that's required
is there anything new that you all have

513
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:34,720
to do oh no i mean it's just
we have one mapper and that's it so what

514
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:38,880
happens if he gets hit by a truck
or a train

515
00:42:36,319 --> 00:42:38,880
who maps

516
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:45,839
just just for my whole brain to get it
clarified here right now you've got

517
00:42:43,280 --> 00:42:45,839
eight employees

518
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:52,079
we have
10 employees and count scott

519
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:59,720
employees and then next year how many
employees you're going to have

520
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:59,720
13 13. okay thank you

521
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:17,359
ben that you're replacing okay and then
the new mapper

522
00:43:15,599 --> 00:43:19,599
so 13 13.
okay

523
00:43:20,560 --> 00:43:24,640
so this year you had 11th position

524
00:43:24,720 --> 00:43:26,880
so

525
00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:39,760
so means we're going from 10 to 14
11 14. yes okay

526
00:43:41,359 --> 00:43:47,040
and that's on both sides
assessor and no

527
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:50,640
we're just talking about re-approaching
yes

528
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:55,839
the city's paid very impressive
the mapper is on the right side yes

529
00:43:56,000 --> 00:44:00,960
this question was asked earlier but i
don't i don't think we've answered this

530
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:06,800
the
37 increase on the assessor side

531
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:10,640
is one of these employees new employees
going to be on the assessor side of the

532
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,640
equation

533
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:16,560
on the 37 for the deputies
yes

534
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:21,400
not my knowledge no

535
00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:30,800
i don't know if he's putting any of
that in part-time or

536
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:37,440
well now
okay he

537
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,440
that consists

538
00:44:40,319 --> 00:44:46,560
well the other salaries and wages was
moved to

539
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:52,960
up to deputies is what it looks like the
minus 39 percent or minus minus 39 000.

540
00:44:51,359 --> 00:44:56,560
i item uh
189

541
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:59,680
was moved to 106 deputies that's what it
looks like am i correct

542
00:45:03,119 --> 00:45:08,000
no i mean down there at the bottom it
just looks like we went down two percent

543
00:45:06,319 --> 00:45:12,400
we we actually saved money on the
assessor side of two percent

544
00:45:10,370 --> 00:45:17,400
[Music]
why was that under other salaries and

545
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,400
wages before

546
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:31,680
right
that was just for budgetary to simple

547
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,839
silence
yes

548
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,960
but i think we just had one person in
that line

549
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:46,280
so we just moved everybody to deputies
so one went down one went up

550
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,000
mr

551
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:08,000
be the one buckingham in to stand tall
and that's nothing against you but i'm

552
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:08,000
just saying oh i understand

553
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:17,040
well i just put it this way i'm doing
the best i can

554
00:46:15,599 --> 00:46:21,680
and you know
i stand behind the budget we do talk

555
00:46:19,040 --> 00:46:26,319
about it uh the final decision is his he
is the elected official i'm not

556
00:46:24,319 --> 00:46:32,720
there's information i'm not privileged
privileged to but as far as

557
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:36,720
i'll tell you all i've set for you do
i think you all do a great job i know

558
00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:41,280
it's a very hard stressful job
but as far as our our department we try

559
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:45,280
to save every dollar we can
and you know that's why i don't mind

560
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:49,520
working the the
the hours and everything that i do

561
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:53,599
and for the simple reason
when when you look at hiring somebody

562
00:46:51,599 --> 00:46:56,480
you're looking at right off the bat
even if you pay them thirty thousand

563
00:46:55,280 --> 00:46:59,920
dollars which
as a base salary well you've gotta add

564
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:02,800
twenty some thousand dollars worth of
benefits

565
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:06,480
so that's costing the county taxpayer
fifty thousand dollars

566
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:09,680
so and i understand that
because i've sat where you are so we we

567
00:47:08,240 --> 00:47:12,480
do understand that because he's been
there

568
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:17,760
so when we look at hiring somebody it's
not because we want to it's a necessity

569
00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:22,319
if if we if i don't map then we don't
have any new revenue coming in

570
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:25,839
so if i die then we don't have anybody
and i promise you i've been doing it for

571
00:47:23,680 --> 00:47:30,880
16 years you do not learn this overnight
please don't die

572
00:47:28,240 --> 00:47:34,640
that's what we're trying to keep from
don't take my questions wrong

573
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:38,400
it's not
a question that you're doing something

574
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:43,200
wrong
and as far as is mr him not being here

575
00:47:41,359 --> 00:47:48,640
tonight like others i mean
people make plans this was it's not like

576
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:57,099
this has been on a calendar for a year
um

577
00:47:51,210 --> 00:47:57,099
[Music]

578
00:48:03,839 --> 00:48:10,800
achieve
those duties faulted you got

579
00:48:07,839 --> 00:48:15,280
prepared or not prepared
that's how the process works so

580
00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,839
thanks for coming
and

581
00:48:16,240 --> 00:48:21,119
my questions
my other mystery

582
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:28,000
no and i don't take it that way but i i
do um

583
00:48:25,839 --> 00:48:32,480
i take what i do with a lot of pride
you know and i i want

584
00:48:30,240 --> 00:48:35,839
one of these days you know
none of us will be here but we all want

585
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,800
to look back somebody said you know what
i don't know who rented at that time

586
00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:41,680
they did a great job
whether it was being a commissioner

587
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:45,520
whether it was
doing mapping whatever we do in life do

588
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:47,839
you want to make sure that you do the
very

589
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:52,720
please best you
my question oh no i don't i don't take

590
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:52,720
anything personally

591
00:48:55,200 --> 00:49:00,720
i don't feel that way you gotta remember
i deal with i deal with people's money

592
00:48:58,559 --> 00:49:04,240
every day taxpayers
when your values go up you're going to

593
00:49:02,079 --> 00:49:08,079
call me and want to know want an answer
so trust me it doesn't i don't take

594
00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:11,119
offense to it i want people to know the
only way you're going to learn is to to

595
00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:16,880
ask questions
well i think this is a new process as

596
00:49:12,720 --> 00:49:16,880
far as as far as being full of friends

597
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:22,640
it's a learning process for all of us i
think that's the key

598
00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:28,079
just to keep me grounded here just from
a total assessor if we look at that 253

599
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:33,100
and we say it's a 60 40 split that
brings the county in about 151 000 our

600
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:39,280
fortune
[Music]

601
00:49:35,119 --> 00:49:44,000
and then so there are 5600 under on
one side so

602
00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:47,280
ballpark 140 546 000
in new money that they're looking for

603
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:51,280
yes
okay

604
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:55,440
now that i mean to me that's a grounding
point is at the end of the day how much

605
00:49:53,440 --> 00:49:59,119
money we got to go find
out yeah

606
00:49:56,960 --> 00:50:01,839
yeah i'm old-fashioned so the increase
is 100

607
00:50:00,319 --> 00:50:06,240
of what they're going to spend in their
office

608
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,280
less than 100 correct what we're
comparing this to

609
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:14,000
are we comparing
comparing it to what they spent last

610
00:50:10,880 --> 00:50:18,640
year or what we paid last year you know
what you're seeing on your schedules um

611
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:22,640
that's in front of you that 2
53 that's the commissioner i finally

612
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:27,599
alluded to
is the change in the 23 budget as it's

613
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:32,520
sitting in front of you
and the budget as it exists today

614
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:37,200
not what we've
spent the year before that information

615
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:43,119
is in here if you want to look at it so
our percentage is

616
00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:47,760
no not the total number the spin is
going up but the amount of revenue that

617
00:50:45,839 --> 00:50:50,559
we will generate from the city of
johnson city

618
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:53,910
and
the town of jonesboro is 30 to 40

619
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:57,520
percent of that
[Music]

620
00:50:55,520 --> 00:51:01,440
but what we're showing here in spain we
didn't spend all that

621
00:50:59,119 --> 00:51:05,119
just because it was split with
your

622
00:51:02,240 --> 00:51:08,640
your followers
but there was an offsetting revenue

623
00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:12,319
correct
but but our spend from last year would

624
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:15,280
go up
the same percentage

625
00:51:15,599 --> 00:51:20,800
because they they contributed last year
just like they're going to contribute

626
00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:25,920
this year correct right
their contribution doesn't impact the

627
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,800
expenditure side it's all up in revenue
so i mean

628
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:33,040
these are the these are the organic
dollars that are spent

629
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,440
we receive the revenue which comes in at
the top

630
00:51:35,599 --> 00:51:40,559
so i mean you if you look at the net
you're exactly right

631
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:47,599
i mean they don't pay half or you know a
third of the bill we send in the bill at

632
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:51,359
the end of the year for the hundred and
forty thousand dollars

633
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:55,760
i mean the debt get here for
reinforcement

634
00:51:52,640 --> 00:51:55,760
that'll flow back in

635
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:03,599
so just to ground on my question and
make sure i'm right from the county's

636
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:09,440
perspective our incremental dollars to
the assessor right now as we're speaking

637
00:52:05,599 --> 00:52:12,880
tonight 140 647 thousand dollars 70 of
the 250 okay

638
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:21,839
i never took a percent to the bank i
like dollars

639
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:31,040
chief do you have anything for us
thank you for your service appreciate

640
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:35,359
everything y'all do we appreciate you
being here tonight sir send our regards

641
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:38,559
to uh mr buckingham i'll send i'll send
him a postcard tell him if he would like

642
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:42,480
to come back and see us at any
commission meeting we'll be here

643
00:52:40,720 --> 00:52:47,280
and we'll be happy to have him placed on
these any more questions or anything

644
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:50,160
thank you jim i appreciate it thank you
for your consideration

645
00:52:54,960 --> 00:53:01,000
i'll let you get back in your
place there commissioner tester

646
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:09,680
all right our next this uh speaker this
evening is our county clerk kathy storey

647
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:13,880
i will turn on her microphone so she
does not have to go to the podium

648
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,960
page 22.

649
00:53:28,870 --> 00:53:31,920
[Music]

650
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:43,400
okay does anybody have any questions
about our budget

651
00:53:45,119 --> 00:53:49,160
two percent across the board

652
00:53:56,559 --> 00:54:05,280
expense that we had um
this year

653
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:08,720
um starting in january was our postage
uh

654
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:13,200
we did not know last year that the state
was going to make new metal

655
00:54:10,880 --> 00:54:19,920
and where we had been mailing out
renewal decals that cost 53 cents apiece

656
00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:24,480
the license plate cost four dollars and
a half a piece

657
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:28,480
so that required us to ask for
you know

658
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:32,000
fifty thousand dollars more
then i

659
00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:36,839
budgeted for sixty thousand for next
year so we'll have six months of new

660
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:42,799
medal
um from july

661
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,920
to uh decent
and then it will go back to being a

662
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,839
decal
next

663
00:54:46,799 --> 00:54:51,839
next year
in january

664
00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:57,760
and as far as i know
there won't be any big

665
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:57,760
new metal you know going out

666
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:08,160
commissioner wheeler
uh yes can you tell us on line 799 the

667
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:11,760
other capital outlay what that amounts
for uh yes

668
00:55:13,520 --> 00:55:21,440
right it's the credit card readers
uh the ones that we have right now are

669
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:26,319
very outdated
and they're attached to the

670
00:55:24,480 --> 00:55:32,559
monitors of
each of the clerks

671
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:37,520
and we've had several occasions where
because our clerk is swiping the card

672
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:42,000
that evidently they can
dispute that charge

673
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:44,079
and say well you know i didn't swipe
that

674
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,400
uh
and so then we have to end up paying

675
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:52,000
our
provider

676
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:56,160
for that money
and so these are uh

677
00:55:54,640 --> 00:56:00,400
a chip reader
and also it will where they can sign

678
00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:04,799
their name as well
and like on our documents where

679
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:08,319
uh when you come in to apply for tag and
registration

680
00:56:06,319 --> 00:56:11,839
you'll have to you know sign a
title application

681
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:16,720
and this when they make their signature
it will print out on whatever it is that

682
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:20,319
they are that transaction are doing
so they won't have to you know sign

683
00:56:18,559 --> 00:56:23,440
various things other than just that one
time

684
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,319
and also
the salesman had called today and said

685
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:31,359
that
we possibly might want to

686
00:56:28,839 --> 00:56:35,200
um get maybe just
this was for 12

687
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:38,079
or 10.
i was 12.

688
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:44,240
right
he was saying we might want to go down

689
00:56:42,400 --> 00:56:49,200
two
that were 475 dollars as opposed to the

690
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:56,400
1280
which would save us 1610 dollars so it

691
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:56,400
would be 13 8 rather than the 15

692
00:56:56,839 --> 00:57:00,240
14. thank you

693
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:11,520
any further questions for this story
commissioner williams are you keeping

694
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:15,760
the office open in johnson city near
lifestyles

695
00:57:13,760 --> 00:57:20,960
i'm sorry i didn't understand you
he just

696
00:57:17,359 --> 00:57:20,960
oh yes ma'am yes

697
00:57:24,839 --> 00:57:30,160
ma'am i think i think we're good for
another

698
00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:33,489
two or
four

699
00:57:30,450 --> 00:57:33,489
[Music]

700
00:57:38,839 --> 00:57:43,440
years all right seeing no further
questions

701
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,040
no they yeah they don't have a fun

702
00:57:59,130 --> 00:58:06,000
[Music]
you know a small amount of money goes

703
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:11,680
into every year this office comes up
they do have a they do have a dedicated

704
00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:14,079
reserve certificate of title
which

705
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,359
is used for
you know computer supplies and whatnot

706
00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:22,000
uh
i want to say that balance is somewhere

707
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:27,119
in the neighborhood about 60
000 and

708
00:58:24,480 --> 00:58:31,200
if we keep about 60 in there how do we
fund that

709
00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:37,040
how does that work well
if several of several of the departments

710
00:58:34,720 --> 00:58:40,880
and brenda has some and the sheriff has
some when certain fees are assessed

711
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:45,359
statutorily
there will be a there may be a uh in

712
00:58:44,000 --> 00:58:50,400
kathy you'd have to tell me what your
certificate of title fee is it's a

713
00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:55,440
dollar or two dollars um that
that is collected that goes in that's

714
00:58:53,280 --> 00:58:59,839
for specific
items that that number that that dollar

715
00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:05,280
amount came about for and that goes into
her reserve now she can use that to fund

716
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:09,040
different items within her budget as do
some of the other registered needs uh

717
00:59:07,359 --> 00:59:13,760
core clerks
sheriff's office so there it's not a

718
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:19,920
fund balance but it is a dedicated
reserve um i can talk so when that

719
00:59:17,119 --> 00:59:24,160
money's moving what's the checks about
i mean oh you all have to make a budget

720
00:59:22,079 --> 00:59:29,520
admit that you usually you have you have
you have to move it out of here

721
00:59:27,040 --> 00:59:33,280
correct and it also tracks
the balance that's in there is it going

722
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:37,599
up now
it gets adjusted at the end of the year

723
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:42,720
money does not go in there
on a recurring uh

724
00:59:40,559 --> 00:59:46,799
the fees come into the county and when
we look at the revenue you'll see

725
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:51,359
certificate of title fees those things
go in as revenue but that reserve

726
00:59:49,359 --> 00:59:53,839
balance does not get adjusted to the
barrier

727
00:59:54,960 --> 00:59:58,200
thank you

728
01:00:01,839 --> 01:00:05,040
anyone else with a question

729
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:15,680
saying done thank you
the story for all your hard work

730
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:19,440
to keep the minutes two nights in a row
too we appreciate that come on

731
01:00:19,520 --> 01:00:25,359
our next speaker is uh sarah lawson our
clerk and master thank you for coming

732
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:31,839
like sarah
it's nice to be able to

733
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:34,799
talk about it
something new yeah do it differently

734
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:39,760
yeah
i'm happy to answer any questions that

735
01:00:36,720 --> 01:00:39,760
you all have i'm

736
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:43,839
not asking for much more than last year

737
01:00:45,040 --> 01:00:51,920
just a couple a couple of additional
funds in our legal notices those things

738
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:56,880
have kind of went up over the past year
so we're asking

739
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,880
26 for y'all that

740
01:01:03,760 --> 01:01:08,160
um
so we're asking for two thousand dollars

741
01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:11,839
there to cover those increased costs for
publication for

742
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:18,559
service of process as part of the tax
sale we pay

743
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,559
the constables and

744
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:24,400
other individuals who serve papers for
us for that tax sale

745
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:26,960
i'm asking for an additional fifteen
hundred dollars in maintenance

746
01:01:25,599 --> 01:01:32,400
agreements that's just to cover
additional uh costs for our uh court

747
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:36,799
view document management system and our
e-government delinquent tax system

748
01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:40,799
and those those go up a little each year
and we're getting really close and need

749
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:45,040
to get that little bump there i'm asking
for an additional 400 in postal charges

750
01:01:44,000 --> 01:01:49,280
um
cost of stamps has went up

751
01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:54,319
and we're mailing out more now than we
have in the past

752
01:01:50,799 --> 01:01:59,359
um and uh 500 for tuition registration
fees i have two paralegals who will need

753
01:01:56,880 --> 01:02:02,880
to be recertified this year so i'm
asking for that additional funds to

754
01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:09,520
certify them
and a small amount of salary increase

755
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:14,079
no personnel increase no personnel
increases i have an open position right

756
01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:18,240
now that i am actively interviewing for
but it

757
01:02:15,839 --> 01:02:21,839
was given to me last year in the budget
so i'm hoping to feel that soon

758
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:27,920
tell us just a little bit about your
salary you know we some departments will

759
01:02:25,119 --> 01:02:31,200
ask for a percent across the board
tell us a little bit about your salary

760
01:02:29,280 --> 01:02:35,839
increases i did ask for a three percent
raise across the board and then there

761
01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:40,319
was a small merit raise increases that i
had put in for some of my employees who

762
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:44,640
are consistently on time and
do what they uh are supposed to do and

763
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:50,960
show up when they're supposed to
regularly i try to reward those people

764
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:54,000
with an additional merit increase
and i think there's a couple of those

765
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:58,079
that have
on the worksheet that i had penciled in

766
01:02:55,839 --> 01:03:03,839
that got about four percent
is that what's reflected in the document

767
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:03,839
we have tonight the merit

768
01:03:03,920 --> 01:03:08,079
it is
408 000

769
01:03:07,039 --> 01:03:12,079
uh
if you look there on the deputy line is

770
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:16,359
the extended
payroll

771
01:03:13,359 --> 01:03:16,359
um

772
01:03:21,480 --> 01:03:24,559
[Music]

773
01:03:29,119 --> 01:03:37,039
well and i i think i had
may not it may be that you have yeah no

774
01:03:34,079 --> 01:03:40,720
i see what it is
that your budget

775
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:45,280
has not done anything at the end of the
year you'd have some surplus in your

776
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:48,799
shower correct and the person that i i
had an employee resign who was making

777
01:03:47,839 --> 01:03:54,160
um
about 36 000 and i think the new

778
01:03:51,039 --> 01:03:57,720
employee i had budgeted at 28 000.
okay right

779
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:06,319
right because
so in essence you're self-funding

780
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:06,319
the pay increases

781
01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:09,039
yeah i mean

782
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:15,920
yeah she hasn't she would have surplus
[Music]

783
01:04:14,079 --> 01:04:18,960
just to be real clear as we go forward
it's always

784
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:22,240
department department for those of you
not on the budget committee we have to

785
01:04:20,240 --> 01:04:26,720
make sure we're comparing apples to
apples

786
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:31,599
but this the 408 does include the two
percent across the board and the merit

787
01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:35,760
raises uh it includes
three percent three percent of the

788
01:04:33,280 --> 01:04:40,760
possible chocolate consider that cost of
living increase and then um

789
01:04:41,039 --> 01:04:47,520
a few a few that will get a little bit
more if they're

790
01:04:44,799 --> 01:04:52,880
doing what they're supposed to do
uh since october i had a new position

791
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:55,920
and i filled it and then this i had an
employee that resigned

792
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:00,400
and i have interviewed i've had two
rounds of interviews and i haven't

793
01:04:57,440 --> 01:05:05,760
really found anybody that
i think is

794
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:05,760
worthy of the job honestly we've had

795
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:14,720
sarah what what is your starting pay
um that position would be uh 1733 an

796
01:05:13,280 --> 01:05:17,039
hour
thank you

797
01:05:19,760 --> 01:05:24,960
thank you for being guilty and that's
the cap i don't know that i would start

798
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:27,920
that person out at that but that's the
maximum that i would pay a new person

799
01:05:26,960 --> 01:05:32,400
right
i just like to know what starting pay is

800
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:36,400
right well starting 1350 is where i
would start them if they were brand new

801
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:40,640
you know fresh
they get 13.50 and that's what my new

802
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:45,520
employee that i hired in october
has started out at and she's worked out

803
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:50,000
really well all right
any other questions for me

804
01:05:48,240 --> 01:05:55,359
all right
good luck y'all thanks

805
01:05:51,760 --> 01:05:55,359
thank you it's good to see everybody

806
01:05:55,520 --> 01:06:03,160
all right our second court clerk brenda
downs

807
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,160
thank you for being here this evening

808
01:06:06,640 --> 01:06:09,640
um

809
01:06:15,000 --> 01:06:18,090
[Music]

810
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:33,440
and brian the question you were asking
earlier to

811
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:37,680
this story we have what's called a data
clerk fee

812
01:06:35,039 --> 01:06:41,760
and it collects two dollars
on certain fees that are paid and it

813
01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:45,200
goes the two dollars goes into our data
clerk fee

814
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:50,319
what we can use that on is basically
common sense anything data

815
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:55,200
we had to replace a total of
20-some computers so far and we're

816
01:06:52,799 --> 01:07:00,400
already having to go around and replace
15 in the near future i use that clerk

817
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:04,240
data money to pay for it so it's no new
monies

818
01:07:01,520 --> 01:07:09,000
so it basically just sits there until
we're able to use it

819
01:07:06,000 --> 01:07:09,000
yep

820
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:19,440
um
mitch i owe you an apology

821
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:23,280
i thought i sent you this
that shows the increase and what it's

822
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:27,839
for
basically guys i only have five little

823
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:32,160
increases um i asked for two thousand
dollars more in overtime pay

824
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,280
dorian covid kind of just sat there
dormant for a while but now that we're

825
01:07:33,599 --> 01:07:40,960
back in operation
court goes past five o'clock quite a bit

826
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:44,880
so that's where the overtime goes a lot
of people don't like for it to be paid

827
01:07:42,480 --> 01:07:47,599
but if they have more than 20 hours i
don't like it to be sitting there so i

828
01:07:46,160 --> 01:07:50,799
do like to pay it
anything we don't use just goes right

829
01:07:49,520 --> 01:07:55,039
back
i ask for a little bit additional money

830
01:07:52,480 --> 01:08:00,000
and travel conferences are back
in session now they're not online

831
01:07:58,079 --> 01:08:03,520
it is beneficial if it's a conference i
can bring somebody to because when they

832
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:07,920
do breakout sessions
one can go one way one go another

833
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:13,440
maintenance agreements i'll be perfectly
honest with you i just came up with the

834
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:16,000
number i talked to a lot of people 9.5
interest

835
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:20,480
um
i don't have all my maintenance

836
01:08:17,359 --> 01:08:24,159
contracts in for the next fiscal year
mitch has already we've already

837
01:08:22,400 --> 01:08:28,080
discussed the copier contract
maintenance contract lease contract will

838
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:33,920
go down anything i don't use in this
just goes right back to general fund

839
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:38,640
registration fees for the judges
i have not really gotten an educational

840
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:42,799
answer as to why but it increased
so i'm just asking for

841
01:08:40,480 --> 01:08:48,640
650 dollars more
and evaluation and testing i've never

842
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:52,480
had this line item go over i just sent a
budget amendment request to mitch about

843
01:08:51,199 --> 01:08:56,880
a week ago
i've never had this one go over what it

844
01:08:54,159 --> 01:09:01,279
is it's judges or whomever
da's attorneys will order mental

845
01:08:58,960 --> 01:09:04,560
evaluation testing on inmates
that hasn't been the problem the problem

846
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:08,560
has been
the interpreters

847
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:12,799
you know we can have
three deaf defendants in one year and

848
01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:16,000
this year we have had the same group of
four they have been in civil court

849
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:19,359
sessions criminal court
and i even have to pay when they meet

850
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:23,440
with their
attorney if they're indigent

851
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:27,120
so that one kind of caught me by
surprise i thought the aoc would jump in

852
01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:31,120
there at some point and try to help us
out

853
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:35,359
i've got a polite email back yesterday
nope it's on the county yes sir really

854
01:09:33,440 --> 01:09:37,839
just one question yes i know social
security

855
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,920
went down
forty eight thousand dollars just seemed

856
01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:45,359
a little unusual
uh

857
01:09:42,799 --> 01:09:48,960
let me look at that commissioner with
ninety thousand and forty one

858
01:10:02,400 --> 01:10:07,520
you know this whole guy's drawing social
security that catches our attention

859
01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:15,520
that's right
i've got another fresh yeah it looks

860
01:10:12,800 --> 01:10:20,320
like it ought to be i mean based on her
total employees it ought to be close to

861
01:10:17,440 --> 01:10:24,880
84 000
but if you just get us

862
01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,880
tomorrow night yeah

863
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:34,880
i did ask for across the board uh five
percent on each employee

864
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:39,440
uh the reason for that you guys and i
think we've all talked about it and this

865
01:10:36,960 --> 01:10:42,480
carrier talked about it first thing
you know

866
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:46,560
inflation's what eight point some
percent

867
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:48,880
gas food my husband and i we go to the
grocery store and it's just the two of

868
01:10:48,159 --> 01:10:52,960
us
you have a new grandbaby jim i don't

869
01:10:51,280 --> 01:10:56,880
know how people
with two and three kids do it i honest

870
01:10:55,120 --> 01:11:00,800
to goodness don't
you know it's just my husband and by the

871
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:05,120
time we leave the grocery store
i'm one of eight i don't know how in the

872
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:08,000
world my parents would do it
but anyway so it is five percent across

873
01:11:06,960 --> 01:11:11,120
the board
um

874
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:16,480
hope it goes through the employees would
greatly appreciate it

875
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:21,440
how many of you work in your office
there is a total of 30 full-time three

876
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:24,960
part-time and then five night deputy
clerks

877
01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:29,120
now what mitch was
shortly saying

878
01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:32,640
we have a recovery court grant so
deborah france falls in under the

879
01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:36,880
circuit court umbrella
she is not paid

880
01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:41,600
out of my budget or any county budget
it's simply a state

881
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:45,360
and about what do those employees start
out at

882
01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:48,000
brenda twelve eighty one twelve eighty
one yes sir what is that about twenty

883
01:11:47,280 --> 01:11:52,239
eight
about twenty five thousand a year twenty

884
01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,239
five thousand a

885
01:11:52,840 --> 01:11:59,600
year you don't want to know we're in the
wrong business

886
01:11:56,800 --> 01:12:02,480
now mileage for one
interpreter call

887
01:12:01,600 --> 01:12:07,040
and
lieutenant foster back there can smile

888
01:12:04,640 --> 01:12:11,280
because he his his officers sit right
there in the courtrooms and watch him

889
01:12:08,960 --> 01:12:14,719
they bill you for an hour regardless if
they're there an hour and 15 minutes

890
01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:18,800
rolls to two hours they bill you for
mileage if i cancel them the day before

891
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,320
they build you a hundred dollars across
the board

892
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:27,760
but usually one interpreter to come for
hearing impaired

893
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:32,000
it could be anywhere from 154 to 200
wow

894
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:32,000
yes sir one bill

895
01:12:33,440 --> 01:12:37,920
now
foreign language the aoc does pay for

896
01:12:37,120 --> 01:12:40,880
that
i've even went as far as having them

897
01:12:39,920 --> 01:12:44,320
from
nashville come

898
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:48,080
stay in a hotel
be here all day long

899
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:52,719
administrative office of the courts they
pick up that one

900
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:56,320
so if i had a pick interpreter versus
hearing impaired i would much rather pay

901
01:12:54,320 --> 01:13:00,320
for hearing impaired and it's their
right when i worked across the parking

902
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:04,960
lot
could you imagine

903
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:08,640
being deaf and being arrested
i mean you want to talk about official

904
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:11,360
you don't know what's going on you don't
so

905
01:13:09,600 --> 01:13:15,760
you know they're able to call they're
able to have a fair trial so i mean i'm

906
01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:18,640
all for what it's being spent i just
never imagined that was going to be a

907
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:21,199
line item i was going to be asking mitch
for money on

908
01:13:25,830 --> 01:13:29,679
[Music]
time

909
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:36,159
no i asked for 2 dollars more
yes sir

910
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:40,080
yes sir
i'm all about if they can get it done

911
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:42,880
get it done
and i'm all about paying them if i can

912
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:46,400
pay him i just don't like her to just
sit there the good news is half of the

913
01:13:45,199 --> 01:13:50,719
employees
they use it

914
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:54,159
but a couple of them they they look at
that as a little bit of

915
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:58,480
spending money now i'm we're not talking
anything crazy i think the most i've

916
01:13:55,840 --> 01:14:02,960
ever paid one clerk since i have been
circuit court clerk has been 40 some

917
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:05,920
hours i mean i'm not talking like
hundreds of times

918
01:14:03,790 --> 01:14:09,199
[Music]
they're taking time off

919
01:14:10,239 --> 01:14:17,520
you know they either get paid
correct it's their choice majority of

920
01:14:14,480 --> 01:14:17,520
them like the time off

921
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:23,760
the civil girls
like the time off the criminal and

922
01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,760
section that

923
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:35,199
inflation and always going up and people
taking more time off instead

924
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:38,480
and they're the girls that eat out
they're the girls that eat out every day

925
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:44,400
instead of packing their lunch
it's interesting

926
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:44,400
you have your savers and your spenders

927
01:14:49,520 --> 01:14:57,840
all right any other questions or
comments

928
01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:57,840
yes brenda thank you very much

929
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:05,600
dana our election administrator is here
with us tonight she's got uh

930
01:15:07,360 --> 01:15:14,640
all kinds of stuff lined up i bet
tonight today

931
01:15:11,440 --> 01:15:19,040
you can tell i'm the newbie in the room
hi guys i'm dana jones thank you for

932
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:23,120
everything you all do to our counties i
tried hard to reach all of you before

933
01:15:21,199 --> 01:15:26,800
tonight to get my budget to you so you
can see it you can see how we spend our

934
01:15:24,960 --> 01:15:29,760
money
so

935
01:15:27,920 --> 01:15:34,080
this is the first budget i've done for
the county i wasn't quite sure how to do

936
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:37,199
it so i just went to last year's budget
pulled receipts and tried to do the best

937
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:40,960
thing i could
to tell you exactly what i need to run

938
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:45,760
my department
um i didn't put any fluff in there so

939
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:48,960
hopefully i haven't missed anything
i am um

940
01:15:47,440 --> 01:15:53,000
it will be my pleasure to answer any
questions you have on it

941
01:15:54,960 --> 01:16:01,600
looks like you've done a very good job
thank you i appreciate it i was

942
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,600
impressed

943
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:05,159
i think

944
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:21,840
absolutely yeah yeah i thought she'd
done a great job

945
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:30,760
did y'all find the page number eight
okay what was it

946
01:16:34,320 --> 01:16:40,480
uh yes
in the election you mentioned because in

947
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:45,840
some of our other uh groups there is a
uh maintenance vapor requirement

948
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:49,320
that requirement for the election
commission is

949
01:16:58,159 --> 01:17:03,040
so we would you know you're required to
fund direct the

950
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:23,040
well uh if if it's increased it does you
know the next time around the next time

951
01:17:20,960 --> 01:17:26,320
you have two elections you'll have that
same minimum number on it on any

952
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:29,679
nightmare
once you put it there and that's not

953
01:17:28,159 --> 01:17:33,440
just for the election commission it's
for the schools it's for the library

954
01:17:32,239 --> 01:17:37,440
uh
to some extent to the sheriff although

955
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:41,400
it's a different calculation so
just keep that in mind

956
01:17:55,120 --> 01:18:03,199
any questions for uh miss challenge dana
thank you very much thank you guys i

957
01:18:00,560 --> 01:18:07,679
appreciate it done a great job
we appreciate you being here

958
01:18:05,920 --> 01:18:14,800
all right our next uh
speaker is a mr rusty sales

959
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:14,800
and i think he went outside for a moment

960
01:18:15,440 --> 01:18:19,440
he thought you was going to be longer
dan that's what it was

961
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:23,520
you know
yeah

962
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:27,840
what page is this on what page is an ema
on pitch

963
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,840
ema

964
01:18:29,530 --> 01:18:32,720
[Music]

965
01:18:42,260 --> 01:18:46,730
[Laughter]

966
01:18:48,640 --> 01:18:54,679
page
40

967
01:18:51,679 --> 01:18:54,679
departments

968
01:18:58,000 --> 01:19:02,800
good evening commission
good evening rusty

969
01:19:03,360 --> 01:19:09,000
uh one thing i do need to share with you
all on his budget

970
01:19:15,130 --> 01:19:23,760
[Music]
okay

971
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:28,640
we have an agreement once we get a grant
that helps pay for some of those

972
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:31,760
administrative costs 68 000. that's
about 62.50

973
01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:41,440
we take his total spin during the year
to track the 62 and then we split that

974
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:45,280
with the city of johnson city
so

975
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:51,520
uh mr if i go back to your you know
questions a minute ago if if his dollar

976
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:54,080
spin goes if his spin goes up a dollar
uh

977
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:59,760
it's 50 50
so he just ground here he's at 36.9 okay

978
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:09,280
and actually on that 36-9 i guess you're
speaking to the increase overall

979
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:13,840
um
we administer a homeland security grant

980
01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:16,960
um
we're getting another homeland security

981
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:22,239
grant that will be coming in for cyber
security

982
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:26,960
those grants are roughly um
about 147 000

983
01:20:24,639 --> 01:20:30,960
and we're under the assumption that the
the cyber security grant that comes in

984
01:20:28,880 --> 01:20:34,000
will be about the same we've never taken
an administrative fee

985
01:20:32,639 --> 01:20:38,800
uh there's a maintenance and
administrative fee that we can take uh

986
01:20:36,400 --> 01:20:42,880
from the federal government on that so
the administrative fee would roughly be

987
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:47,520
seven thousand dollars
it's five percent of that grant

988
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:52,800
that we can apply to
what what the increase is is basically i

989
01:20:49,679 --> 01:20:55,440
want to hire a full-time employee admin
person

990
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:58,400
right now it's just myself and my
operations officer

991
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:02,960
in our office
and with the uh addition of another

992
01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:09,199
grant coming that's going to be
a lot more tom administrative wise

993
01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:13,360
uh that will be applied to that so
if we are awarded the other

994
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:17,440
grant which uh they haven't done the
funding notice a funding opportunity yet

995
01:21:16,159 --> 01:21:20,800
we're expecting that to come out about
the next month or so

996
01:21:19,440 --> 01:21:24,880
um
washington county will be my office will

997
01:21:22,639 --> 01:21:29,760
be administering that grant as well so
we have the potential of getting about

998
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:33,280
fourteen thousand dollars
that we can add to that

999
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,600
um
increase

1000
01:21:34,480 --> 01:21:38,719
in budget
based on that five percent taken off of

1001
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:42,639
both of those grants for administrative
fees

1002
01:21:40,080 --> 01:21:46,000
so basically the cost to the washington
county would be around eleven thousand

1003
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:49,360
eight hundred dollars
after it split with the city

1004
01:21:53,760 --> 01:21:59,280
we actually don't know yet
this is something that's came down to

1005
01:21:57,360 --> 01:22:03,280
the department of homeland security uh
it's brand new they just told us about

1006
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:07,760
it this year it's along the same lines
as the homeland security grant that we

1007
01:22:05,199 --> 01:22:11,280
get now for fighting terrorism
um

1008
01:22:09,360 --> 01:22:14,400
going to be a district grant which means
the upper eight counties in northeast

1009
01:22:13,199 --> 01:22:17,520
tennessee
um

1010
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:22,159
we're not sure how they're gonna spend
it yet and the reason for that is

1011
01:22:20,159 --> 01:22:26,000
the homeland security grant is split up
per district so each district in the

1012
01:22:23,840 --> 01:22:31,040
state gets a certain amount of money
every year towards this homeland

1013
01:22:27,199 --> 01:22:33,520
security well with us being 147 000
we don't know

1014
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:36,960
it's not a whole lot you can buy on
cyber security for 147 000 for eight

1015
01:22:35,840 --> 01:22:41,760
counties
so we don't know if they're going to

1016
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:45,120
use it and purchase it from a state
level or if they're going to try to

1017
01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:48,880
administer it down to us
it's still all brand new so

1018
01:22:50,239 --> 01:22:57,360
i i wish i could answer the question but
i can't and that's why i i struggle

1019
01:22:55,440 --> 01:23:01,760
with some of this
okay so so you get a grant

1020
01:23:05,199 --> 01:23:11,120
us 30 um
so we're 70 000 good well

1021
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:16,560
if you spend that hundred thousand
dollars on something new

1022
01:23:14,159 --> 01:23:21,920
then that head count that money doesn't
cover that account that's just a true

1023
01:23:19,040 --> 01:23:25,920
increase to the county by heading here
right

1024
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:30,960
so the grants that you're writing
they're not funding anything that you're

1025
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:35,840
doing now taking cost out
of your budget is just increasing your

1026
01:23:34,320 --> 01:23:39,840
buds
we're not we're not actually writing the

1027
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:44,639
grants it's we're not hiring a grant
writer we're the admin we administer the

1028
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:49,840
grant which means we do the purchasing
uh we keep up all paperwork we go

1029
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:49,840
through the audits and all that so

1030
01:23:50,719 --> 01:23:56,719
historically too
if i'm not speaking out of turn we we

1031
01:23:54,560 --> 01:24:00,480
had a full-time admin
up until

1032
01:23:58,600 --> 01:24:04,880
2017
and um the admin that we had left this

1033
01:24:03,199 --> 01:24:07,920
is when we were still on the city side
we hadn't switched over to the county at

1034
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:11,520
that point
the city didn't let us hire

1035
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:15,360
the admin back
and obviously kept that portion of our

1036
01:24:13,600 --> 01:24:17,840
budget
in the general fund

1037
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:23,120
um
when cobit hit

1038
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:27,679
i was allowed to hire a part-time person
so part-time person doing this kind of

1039
01:24:25,199 --> 01:24:31,280
work at 12 an hour it's kind of hard to
keep

1040
01:24:29,760 --> 01:24:34,880
um
that's why

1041
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:38,320
the administrative side of this is it's
a lot it's a lot of paperwork i mean for

1042
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:42,560
myself
as the director my i do

1043
01:24:40,880 --> 01:24:47,600
the grant and i've been doing it since
ness hired me but that's one of the

1044
01:24:44,880 --> 01:24:51,760
things i want to push off to this person
so i can do

1045
01:24:49,280 --> 01:24:54,639
more developing and moving us forward
with

1046
01:24:52,639 --> 01:24:57,600
emergency management and looking for
more grants

1047
01:24:56,000 --> 01:25:01,360
that will actually benefit the county on
hazard mitigation side and things like

1048
01:24:59,120 --> 01:25:01,360
that

1049
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:04,880
progressing

1050
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:12,159
on that these ramps
they're really kind of peculiar but they

1051
01:25:09,760 --> 01:25:16,960
come every year we're still spending off
the 20 19 grand so

1052
01:25:15,040 --> 01:25:20,239
it's been late
but

1053
01:25:17,840 --> 01:25:25,760
they've been specifically allowed for
any personnel

1054
01:25:22,880 --> 01:25:30,639
it is the cure
fire protection police protection some

1055
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:35,360
of the split
these grants like most friends that we

1056
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:39,360
see have an administrative
administration opponent

1057
01:25:38,400 --> 01:25:43,120
i
can be

1058
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:48,639
used for administration
well rusty i've been talking about

1059
01:25:45,440 --> 01:25:52,880
he's born all over the world himself
and let all of the money go

1060
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:57,120
but
it's right now

1061
01:25:54,400 --> 01:26:01,760
and in its recent assumptions
you know my perspective

1062
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:04,880
we're servicing seven other counties
with a lot of effort

1063
01:26:03,600 --> 01:26:08,400
that
you know

1064
01:26:06,239 --> 01:26:08,400
so

1065
01:26:14,080 --> 01:26:20,000
you know
focusing on our dna operations stuff

1066
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:22,800
like that and use what's allowed in
those grams

1067
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:44,800
we have
one grant that we have the 625 is an

1068
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:48,960
empg grant that's an annual grant
um that's that's something that the

1069
01:26:46,800 --> 01:26:54,159
federal government gives us as operating
costs the homeland security grants are

1070
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:58,880
three-year grants uh for example we're
we're i'm currently spending 2019 and it

1071
01:26:56,480 --> 01:27:02,320
closes april 30th of this year and then
i'll start on

1072
01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:06,239
the 2020 grant and it'll close april of
next year so it's a three-year recurring

1073
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:08,880
grant
that's how that works and we're under

1074
01:27:07,760 --> 01:27:11,679
the impression that the other one will
work the same way it'll be a three-year

1075
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:15,040
grant
commissioner carriger

1076
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:18,719
one of the rest of his comments got my
right to thinking and this is for mayor

1077
01:27:17,520 --> 01:27:22,880
mitch
who do we have that monitors our

1078
01:27:20,239 --> 01:27:25,199
computer systems for hacking
um

1079
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:27,520
bcti
okay

1080
01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:36,880
yes yeah okay now do they do for
agencies uh well they each party they

1081
01:27:34,000 --> 01:27:41,520
they absolutely monitor everybody that
is in the county system

1082
01:27:38,560 --> 01:27:47,199
yeah except for the sheriff uses a
company called bird consultant okay

1083
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:47,199
there's some overlap there between

1084
01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,199
uh you
you i see you've got to raise in for the

1085
01:27:56,159 --> 01:28:00,320
director and
the part-time are not part-time i'm

1086
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:06,080
sorry other salaries and wages does that
include a raise for the other employee

1087
01:28:03,760 --> 01:28:11,960
yes my current operation
yes and what percentage was that three

1088
01:28:08,400 --> 01:28:11,960
or three okay

1089
01:28:21,040 --> 01:28:24,000
rusty sir

1090
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:32,320
i know you hired a part-time person
would you

1091
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,199
and this person be a full-time person
right yes sir

1092
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:41,040
but the part-time person didn't stay in
the budget right it just combined into

1093
01:28:38,880 --> 01:28:46,000
one position as a one full-time person
correct yes

1094
01:28:42,960 --> 01:28:49,520
so i had 16 roughly 16 little 16-5 i
think is what i had budgeted for

1095
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:54,080
the other part-time person and that's
going to roll into it it's just going to

1096
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:57,199
roll into one full-time person
so

1097
01:28:54,960 --> 01:29:02,560
okay
you all need somebody full time

1098
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:02,560
there's a lot of

1099
01:29:03,280 --> 01:29:08,880
you have a lean mean operation and i i
see it all the time and i guess i'm

1100
01:29:07,040 --> 01:29:13,199
fortunate to do that and
i commend you on a job you do and thank

1101
01:29:11,199 --> 01:29:16,800
you and all that you've done for us
through cove it and

1102
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:21,280
i just
y'all do a great job

1103
01:29:18,400 --> 01:29:21,280
appreciate that sir

1104
01:29:21,520 --> 01:29:28,960
anything else for rusty
rusty thank you very much we appreciate

1105
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:31,760
you coming sir thanks for watching thank
you have a good evening

1106
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:40,480
director hodgin is here with us tonight
i don't see director wheely here

1107
01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:44,239
director hodgins here with us

1108
01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:47,760
from the health department

1109
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:54,000
you'll be on a roll here this week
direct crossing you'll be here

1110
01:29:51,199 --> 01:29:58,320
this week next week
yes sir we may even schedule a meeting

1111
01:29:56,239 --> 01:30:02,639
the next week
god look forward about three or four

1112
01:30:00,159 --> 01:30:06,360
pages of page 46
where the health department

1113
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:38,960
and we don't have that reason i'm
pointing that out

1114
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:42,800
we don't have that final grant number
yet so those numbers will change but

1115
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:46,000
it's 100 percent
uh

1116
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:48,880
funded grant so
that if

1117
01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:03,120
[Music]
this is all new to me i mean this is the

1118
01:31:01,440 --> 01:31:06,400
first time i've done this the last time
we did this last year i was brushing the

1119
01:31:04,719 --> 01:31:10,000
seat and i was hip deep in kobe's
vaccine and

1120
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:14,159
leaned heavily on my regional office to
get me through this process and on with

1121
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:17,199
getting back to putting kobe
vaccine out there

1122
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:20,600
so i'm happy to answer any questions
that you might have

1123
01:31:34,080 --> 01:31:39,280
any questions for director hodgin on his
budget i know he's a lean mean operation

1124
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:44,560
up there
i'm just curious about

1125
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:50,239
the communications
uh it's a net reduction in that we

1126
01:31:47,040 --> 01:31:53,920
missed bcti in our last year's budget
so that was a significant amount of

1127
01:31:51,760 --> 01:31:57,520
money that we ended up picking up um
elsewhere in this year's budget but i

1128
01:31:55,520 --> 01:32:02,320
put that back in for next year
but it's a net decrease when we switched

1129
01:31:59,280 --> 01:32:02,320
our carriers over

1130
01:32:06,560 --> 01:32:10,960
all right direct production we
appreciate you coming and thank you so

1131
01:32:09,440 --> 01:32:15,040
much
sir appreciate y'all thank you thank you

1132
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:19,760
thank you thank you yeah director
wheelies here with us as well

1133
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:23,840
dan if you want to come on up glory and
we'll talk about ems

1134
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:27,719
and uh
i guess you'll be our last

1135
01:32:28,239 --> 01:32:31,520
last slot of the night

1136
01:32:35,760 --> 01:32:39,080
thank you sir

1137
01:32:45,600 --> 01:32:48,760
all right

1138
01:32:50,580 --> 01:32:53,649
[Music]

1139
01:33:12,560 --> 01:33:15,199
you go ahead

1140
01:33:20,880 --> 01:33:24,639
i'll put this one to that record in a
minute

1141
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:31,360
uh thank you all for letting us come
tonight um dan wheely i'm the director

1142
01:33:29,920 --> 01:33:34,639
for washington county mess this is miss
laurie kemp she's our

1143
01:33:32,880 --> 01:33:38,480
comptroller she's supposed to keep me in
line so the same thing

1144
01:33:36,560 --> 01:33:42,159
inaccurate
um

1145
01:33:40,400 --> 01:33:46,400
so this year
in our budget obviously we're expecting

1146
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:50,159
increases in
fuel and supplies and

1147
01:33:48,639 --> 01:33:54,719
insurance and everything else that
everybody else is expecting

1148
01:33:52,400 --> 01:34:00,000
which in our budget we've budgeted um to
cover those expenses um with increase in

1149
01:33:57,679 --> 01:34:05,440
revenue based on call volume and
additional funding we've received

1150
01:34:02,400 --> 01:34:09,520
through reimbursements um but we are
asking for an increase in

1151
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:12,719
revenue or funding this year from the
county

1152
01:34:10,639 --> 01:34:15,199
and the cities you all know we get part
of our funding from the city and the

1153
01:34:14,239 --> 01:34:20,719
county
um we're asking for a pay adjustment for

1154
01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:26,400
our staff
if you look on page two of the handout

1155
01:34:24,719 --> 01:34:30,480
comparing our
paramedics and emts to other public

1156
01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:34,320
safety entities
sheriff's department john pearl fire

1157
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:39,920
department john city fire department
um we're about 25 percent under where we

1158
01:34:37,360 --> 01:34:44,880
should be on paying our staff um we've
gotten here um over the years by trying

1159
01:34:42,560 --> 01:34:48,639
to be competitive with other ems
agencies in the region

1160
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:53,600
at the same time other public safety
entities have

1161
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:57,520
increased their wages and their rates
we're struggling with staffing much like

1162
01:34:56,159 --> 01:35:01,760
many others
we have people leaving ems all the time

1163
01:35:00,560 --> 01:35:05,440
to go to other
jobs go to eastman go to

1164
01:35:04,639 --> 01:35:09,360
you know
call centers go to just getting out of

1165
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:13,520
the ems field altogether so it's very
hard to recruit and retain

1166
01:35:11,440 --> 01:35:16,400
quality staff
so you know we're not going to get to a

1167
01:35:15,280 --> 01:35:19,840
25
increase overnight and we didn't get

1168
01:35:18,480 --> 01:35:24,080
here overnight so we're not expecting to
get out of that overnight

1169
01:35:21,840 --> 01:35:29,119
but we do have a plan over the next uh
four or five years to to try to do pay

1170
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:32,719
rate increases each year
to get us where we need to be

1171
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:35,119
with that we still have to give our cost
of living adjustments and our merit

1172
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:39,520
raises
so we don't just replace

1173
01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:46,000
a wage adjustment a cost of living
adjustment with a wage adjustment

1174
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:49,199
so we are asking for 256 500 additional
funding next year

1175
01:35:47,679 --> 01:35:54,400
that is to cover
the

1176
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:58,960
2 000 wage adjustment for all staff
and our 3 percent cola raise um we are

1177
01:35:57,280 --> 01:36:03,920
budgeting to cover our three percent
merit raise we're budgeting to cover our

1178
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:07,679
coal arrays
increases in fuel increases in medical

1179
01:36:06,480 --> 01:36:13,520
expenses
14 increase in health insurance

1180
01:36:10,960 --> 01:36:16,239
all of those increases are in the budget
for next year

1181
01:36:16,639 --> 01:36:25,840
we're asking johnson city to match that
that 256

1182
01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:25,840
request is going to johnson city as well

1183
01:36:28,639 --> 01:36:37,199
happy to answer any specific questions
then on an hourly basis what are we

1184
01:36:33,199 --> 01:36:41,920
increasing or starting from hours
it it's hard to say because we have

1185
01:36:40,400 --> 01:36:47,600
five four different
hourly rates so we have 10 12s and

1186
01:36:44,560 --> 01:36:53,920
24-hour shifts and so it will change
their hourly rate different for each one

1187
01:36:51,679 --> 01:36:59,360
so it's really hard to okay it's about a
four percent increase

1188
01:36:56,159 --> 01:36:59,360
for each yeah

1189
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:04,000
today we have eight and we've been
running with

1190
01:37:02,719 --> 01:37:06,960
six to eight
for almost a year

1191
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:11,679
it seems like when we
hire and get down to five or six one or

1192
01:37:09,119 --> 01:37:11,679
two leads

1193
01:37:12,719 --> 01:37:20,480
118 full-time staff
dan is it true that

1194
01:37:18,159 --> 01:37:26,080
there's more licensing licenses being
retired than there is actually being

1195
01:37:23,119 --> 01:37:28,960
uh ems people completing school it is in
tennessee um so

1196
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:32,880
national
association of ems

1197
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:37,440
came in and did a study couple years and
they did a presentation stadiums board

1198
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:41,360
and said that you know tennessee was in
dire straits because we were retiring

1199
01:37:39,600 --> 01:37:44,719
more licensing every year than we were
issued

1200
01:37:42,719 --> 01:37:49,199
they're just not getting people
interested in the field

1201
01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:54,719
we're doing things to try to recruit and
get interest into this field we do a emt

1202
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:58,800
class at david crockett high school so
when those seniors graduate they can

1203
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:02,800
test for their emt license right out of
high schools

1204
01:38:00,480 --> 01:38:05,760
we have about six or eight each year
graduate from that last year we

1205
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:09,360
graduated six
um and we weren't able to hire any of

1206
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:15,119
them because they all went on to nursing
school or to the fire department

1207
01:38:11,920 --> 01:38:19,679
so um you know pay is not everything but
pay is something it is a

1208
01:38:17,440 --> 01:38:24,639
big issue you know people can
um on the hour people can go to

1209
01:38:22,800 --> 01:38:28,960
mcdonald's and
you know hobby lobby places like that

1210
01:38:26,719 --> 01:38:32,639
start making more on the hour than we
start people out at and they have to be

1211
01:38:31,040 --> 01:38:37,280
licensed and they have to be at least an
emt basic i mean for us they can only be

1212
01:38:35,280 --> 01:38:42,440
an empty basic for a little while and
then they have to go on to school to get

1213
01:38:38,560 --> 01:38:42,440
their advanced empty repairs

1214
01:38:49,119 --> 01:38:55,600
it is right now we start an emt basic
out which has to have a semester of

1215
01:38:53,600 --> 01:38:59,040
school be licensed we start an empty
basic out at eight thousand three

1216
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:05,040
fourteen
uh johnson city fire starts and a fire

1217
01:39:02,239 --> 01:39:08,719
recruit out at 31 000 and they train
them

1218
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:13,040
they start them out with zero training
and they provide them six months of

1219
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:16,639
training so that that's what we're
trying to get you know so at least we

1220
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:19,679
can compete with the fire departments
and the sheriff's department and police

1221
01:39:18,159 --> 01:39:23,360
departments and things
um you know realistically we compete

1222
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:27,440
with
nursing at a certain level our

1223
01:39:24,840 --> 01:39:30,239
paramedics go to school for
um

1224
01:39:28,560 --> 01:39:33,199
five semesters
um graduate you know they're not they

1225
01:39:32,000 --> 01:39:37,840
don't have an associate's degree they
just have a certificate paramedic but it

1226
01:39:35,119 --> 01:39:40,719
takes them five semesters to do that so
two and a half years

1227
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:44,239
of schooling
um and we start them out at almost

1228
01:39:42,400 --> 01:39:47,920
twenty thousand dollars yes less than
associate degree rn can take so it's you

1229
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:51,360
know
it's a different job and we're not

1230
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:54,719
saying that paramedics should make what
rns make but

1231
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:57,280
we have to get a little more competitive
than we are

1232
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:07,119
so on the public side we split it with
the city either lane

1233
01:40:03,199 --> 01:40:10,880
balance of more revenue um
yes so we we build four services billy

1234
01:40:09,679 --> 01:40:16,719
insurance for
um services we generate about 75 right

1235
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:19,840
at 75 of our total budget is through
patient revenues

1236
01:40:18,320 --> 01:40:25,280
and then the rest of it is through
appropriations from the city and the

1237
01:40:21,679 --> 01:40:25,280
county and fountain jungle

1238
01:40:31,600 --> 01:40:38,320
then just a question or two
i mean it looks like the bulk of your

1239
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:41,600
expense increases as you discussed on
the payrolls right just trying to raise

1240
01:40:40,480 --> 01:40:46,639
those pay
to payroll benefits but 20 000 on

1241
01:40:44,080 --> 01:40:52,320
utilities just percentage-wise that's a
lot what what's going on there well the

1242
01:40:50,560 --> 01:40:56,480
current budget is well this is based off
of last year

1243
01:40:53,920 --> 01:41:00,080
it was under estimated there so we kind
of catch up so it was just core

1244
01:40:58,560 --> 01:41:04,440
budgeting
for

1245
01:41:01,440 --> 01:41:04,440
forecasting

1246
01:41:17,119 --> 01:41:23,199
since last year
we do have a dispatch center now that

1247
01:41:20,639 --> 01:41:27,280
operates 24 hours a day
and we'll have a little more utilities

1248
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:31,440
associated with that
and if i remember right we ride off of

1249
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:36,719
over a million dollars of bad debts a
year we do yes sir so that's that's a

1250
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:41,600
real drag on over the
service

1251
01:41:39,040 --> 01:41:44,800
so we i mean we pursue collections but
at some point

1252
01:41:42,880 --> 01:41:49,199
we write that off and we write off a lot
of bad debt through contractual

1253
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:51,760
adjustments that are you know
with the government they pay what they

1254
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:54,239
pay and
you tell them about the va

1255
01:41:53,360 --> 01:41:58,679
well
i just forget it forget it

1256
01:42:01,490 --> 01:42:05,370
[Laughter]

1257
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:17,360
or educational
level

1258
01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:24,960
to be
an emt they have to be a high school

1259
01:42:23,199 --> 01:42:29,760
graduate
to currently in the state to drive an

1260
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:33,840
ambulance even as an emt you have to
have three years of unrestricted

1261
01:42:31,520 --> 01:42:37,360
driver's license so they can't they can
operate in the back but they can't drive

1262
01:42:35,360 --> 01:42:43,520
the vehicle until they're 19 right now
there's legislation in the state

1263
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:47,040
this year to try to reduce that to 18.
but right now

1264
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:49,679
they pretty much have to be 19 before we
can hire them

1265
01:42:54,639 --> 01:43:01,520
i mean yeah that's true there's days
that call volume exceeds

1266
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:04,570
resources um we
i think in the last 12 years um that

1267
01:43:04,239 --> 01:43:07,920
i've been
[Music]

1268
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:11,679
we've called for mutual aid
twice you know

1269
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:16,639
we we have a convalescent division that
will stop transports on that side to

1270
01:43:14,000 --> 01:43:20,080
move those units over and
you know not to say that sometimes

1271
01:43:18,560 --> 01:43:24,719
services aren't delayed because we just
run out of trucks but

1272
01:43:23,280 --> 01:43:29,199
you also can't
always you can't staff for the what the

1273
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:32,320
once or twice every 10 years that you
have that

1274
01:43:30,320 --> 01:43:37,000
you know school bus wreck and
you can't you can't budget for that

1275
01:43:39,199 --> 01:43:45,199
they do yes and we have very good
relationships with

1276
01:43:42,080 --> 01:43:48,880
surrounding counties and if we do um you
know you'll remember the school bus

1277
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:53,199
wreck about 10 years ago
greene county came and helped us

1278
01:43:50,239 --> 01:43:57,600
sullivan came and help us so we do have
a mutual aid request for other counties

1279
01:44:01,760 --> 01:44:08,400
what a great job ems does dan and we
appreciate the service you always do for

1280
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:12,480
our community we sure do appreciate that
we've got a

1281
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:15,280
great staff that works very hard and
provides excellent care for our

1282
01:44:13,920 --> 01:44:21,050
community and
sure we appreciate all the support the

1283
01:44:17,360 --> 01:44:24,320
commission gives us as well
[Music]

1284
01:44:23,199 --> 01:44:28,320
thank you
all right if there's no more questions

1285
01:44:25,840 --> 01:44:28,320
we'll uh

1286
01:44:30,000 --> 01:44:38,080
thank you very much again let's go
all right that'll conclude our

1287
01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:42,159
budget hearings this evening
unless there's any old business that we

1288
01:44:39,760 --> 01:44:42,159
would like to

1289
01:44:47,199 --> 01:44:51,600
these discuss
uh

1290
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:56,800
there anyone on this list that you'd
like to see

1291
01:44:53,119 --> 01:44:56,800
present tomorrow night edition

1292
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:04,800
mr mayor i only had one question and it
was about the soil conservation thing i

1293
01:45:03,280 --> 01:45:08,000
don't know that we need a presentation
but i noticed

1294
01:45:06,159 --> 01:45:13,760
the request this year was zero or have
we just not heard from them yet

1295
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:13,760
oh on the 18 000.

1296
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:21,360
we haven't well but
and the mayor and i haven't talked about

1297
01:45:18,719 --> 01:45:26,080
this uh yet so
it all building sort of fluid

1298
01:45:24,400 --> 01:45:28,960
when you look at soil conservation
budget

1299
01:45:27,280 --> 01:45:32,639
and going back to the discussion of
grants earlier

1300
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:36,239
two or three years ago they started
funding a position with a

1301
01:45:36,320 --> 01:45:43,040
a grant national
national soil conservation resource

1302
01:45:41,119 --> 01:45:47,360
association
that grant going away

1303
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:52,800
and they're bringing this perk but they
want to bring on this person in their

1304
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:52,800
full-time capacity

1305
01:45:54,080 --> 01:46:01,280
we appropriated the 18 000
last year because that's what they'd

1306
01:45:59,119 --> 01:46:05,119
asked for the year before
um

1307
01:46:02,960 --> 01:46:11,119
until we get some further clarification
from the soil conservation folks on what

1308
01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:14,800
they need that 18 for since we're now
funding i think three positions over

1309
01:46:13,119 --> 01:46:21,760
there or three and a half
then uh that's why i left it out of you

1310
01:46:17,679 --> 01:46:21,760
okay thank you i was just curious

1311
01:46:23,600 --> 01:46:30,960
any direction for many of the people you
heard today that didn't communicate with

1312
01:46:28,000 --> 01:46:35,360
them directly as to
staffing

1313
01:46:32,239 --> 01:46:40,520
of their own budget anything that caught
your attention needs to be individually

1314
01:46:37,520 --> 01:46:40,520
addressed

1315
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:44,400
okay

1316
01:46:45,440 --> 01:46:51,119
the uh volunteer fire departments on
this sheet

1317
01:46:49,199 --> 01:46:56,480
have asked for two hundred thousand
dollars each that's not unusual we've

1318
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:59,920
seen that for multiple years in the past
last year we funded them with a slight

1319
01:46:58,400 --> 01:47:04,400
increase
from i think 130 to 132.

1320
01:47:04,639 --> 01:47:10,400
um
so as it stands now in a request for 200

1321
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:12,560
000
so

1322
01:47:14,639 --> 01:47:22,480
if we were in a smaller budget committee
you probably wouldn't be

1323
01:47:19,840 --> 01:47:25,520
in line to receive that
do you all

1324
01:47:23,920 --> 01:47:29,040
have any feel for that would you like to
hear

1325
01:47:26,400 --> 01:47:33,040
charlie's
or whether they are in request

1326
01:47:31,119 --> 01:47:37,840
i'll just say this i've seen this
request

1327
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:37,840
probably for seven or eight years

1328
01:47:39,920 --> 01:47:46,000
i would say that they don't
expect to receive it

1329
01:47:46,159 --> 01:47:53,760
and of course i think in the aggregate
that's about 4 500.

1330
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:56,159
sorry it's a couple hundred thousand
dollars

1331
01:47:56,400 --> 01:48:01,600
that's what we don't value them but it's
you know that is a huge increase

1332
01:48:00,639 --> 01:48:06,080
yeah
with the risk for next year's economy

1333
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:10,159
we've just got to be i think very
fruitful with the taxpayers money yeah

1334
01:48:08,719 --> 01:48:12,320
really do
well agree

1335
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:15,840
[Music]
and so

1336
01:48:13,600 --> 01:48:18,880
at some point
whether it's

1337
01:48:17,119 --> 01:48:24,239
the budget committee budget committee or
it's the full commission or whatever

1338
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:28,320
he needs to wrestle around with
what we're going to

1339
01:48:26,639 --> 01:48:34,239
contribute to the volunteer fire
department

1340
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:38,400
mr maryland if i may i mean to that end
your opinion or direction is it better

1341
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:43,520
for us to
ground them full commission or is it

1342
01:48:40,800 --> 01:48:47,040
better to ground them in the budget
well and when i say

1343
01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:54,719
because this is different i mean in past
years

1344
01:48:53,199 --> 01:48:57,679
five people have heard what you just
heard tonight

1345
01:48:56,880 --> 01:49:02,320
we
make the record you know put it together

1346
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:05,280
sort of prove it and change it until the
very end and then present it to the full

1347
01:49:04,320 --> 01:49:11,360
commission
as a recommendation

1348
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:16,000
so the exercise of this year is to be
on the front end

1349
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:19,599
regard to these departments that you've
heard the office holders

1350
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:23,520
as well as
appropriations or any other expense

1351
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:28,320
license
because as commissioner pierrot says

1352
01:49:26,080 --> 01:49:32,880
several times this evening
the um

1353
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:34,960
the number is bigger as it's on paper
today

1354
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:37,599
our
taxpayers

1355
01:49:36,639 --> 01:49:41,599
are
having to pay

1356
01:49:39,280 --> 01:49:44,800
higher costs for everything just like
the county is

1357
01:49:43,119 --> 01:49:48,400
so
you know at the end of the day this

1358
01:49:46,159 --> 01:49:51,190
group needs to come together and decide
how to balance that

1359
01:49:50,719 --> 01:49:55,280
and
[Music]

1360
01:49:53,679 --> 01:49:58,960
so you know
this is an opportunity to get it on the

1361
01:49:56,960 --> 01:50:02,159
front end i mean rather than wrestling
around with it

1362
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:05,599
two days before we gotta have it
complete

1363
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:09,280
i think one thing i think we ought to
add to the a couple of things really but

1364
01:50:07,440 --> 01:50:12,639
first is
during this budget process we're going

1365
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:18,320
to get a report back from ctas
evaluating

1366
01:50:14,400 --> 01:50:23,119
two options to potentially
provide

1367
01:50:19,280 --> 01:50:27,040
some personnel support for fire
so we may want to

1368
01:50:24,639 --> 01:50:30,400
hear that before we decide anything
final on any of this

1369
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:33,760
that could greatly impact it if we were
moving forward with that we certainly

1370
01:50:32,159 --> 01:50:36,800
wouldn't probably be able to consider a
lot of this

1371
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:40,239
second thing i wanted to though say is
also these volunteer fire departments

1372
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:44,159
really do work on these budgets and they
can support they usually we didn't we

1373
01:50:42,560 --> 01:50:48,080
haven't seen any public safety yet this
year but usually we see

1374
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:51,520
a packet from them with their you know
they they show us what they're raising

1375
01:50:49,840 --> 01:50:54,480
money-wise they give us their full
disclosure

1376
01:50:52,719 --> 01:50:58,080
so and then how they built the budget
that they're they're asking for they

1377
01:50:56,239 --> 01:51:00,480
have asked for the same yes general
increase for several years in a row

1378
01:50:59,679 --> 01:51:03,599
which
many years in a row which they've not

1379
01:51:02,560 --> 01:51:06,880
gotten
but a couple things to keep in mind when

1380
01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:10,400
we're talking about volunteer fire
departments are

1381
01:51:08,159 --> 01:51:14,560
that they have for a decade or more
struggled with

1382
01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:17,840
um it's harder to get volunteers
um

1383
01:51:15,520 --> 01:51:21,199
the way we live today you know people
don't volunteer to come sit at the

1384
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:24,480
volunteer fire department on the weekend
anymore

1385
01:51:22,880 --> 01:51:26,880
people don't work right in the community
where they can

1386
01:51:25,679 --> 01:51:30,960
you know drop what they're doing on the
farm and go fight the fire

1387
01:51:29,040 --> 01:51:35,280
so they're struggling with volunteers
they are also struggling with

1388
01:51:32,880 --> 01:51:38,480
fundraising so
where they

1389
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:41,760
they're not raising as much money
anymore

1390
01:51:39,840 --> 01:51:45,520
with the same even if they use the same
fundraiser so we do need to keep that in

1391
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:49,920
mind i want to be fair to them and point
that out but

1392
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:52,880
but at the same time we do have another
uh

1393
01:51:50,719 --> 01:51:56,719
a pretty big report coming probably
sometime in april

1394
01:51:54,480 --> 01:52:02,360
uh that we may want to consider too
commerce wheeler is the offer committee

1395
01:51:59,360 --> 01:52:02,360
considering

1396
01:52:04,719 --> 01:52:10,800
we have we have one of the things the
blocks that you all have talked about

1397
01:52:08,239 --> 01:52:14,560
before um and our committee's
continuing to look at this money being

1398
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:19,360
sort of set aside is a pretty
significant amount but it wouldn't cover

1399
01:52:17,119 --> 01:52:22,800
anything that would be in these budgets
because this this would be things like

1400
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:25,440
turnout gear hoses
that type thing

1401
01:52:24,239 --> 01:52:28,719
um
the

1402
01:52:26,639 --> 01:52:34,080
the arc of money in keeping with the
idea that we want to do big one-time

1403
01:52:31,280 --> 01:52:38,159
projects what we're looking at is is and
see tess has actually kind of weighed in

1404
01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:40,400
on this a little bit too
so far in just private meetings but

1405
01:52:39,679 --> 01:52:43,199
they'll
weigh in if they don't weigh in their

1406
01:52:41,840 --> 01:52:47,040
report they will
be willing to step up and weigh in a

1407
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:52,400
little bit if we ask them to
but uh is to come up with a project or

1408
01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:57,920
maybe a couple projects
that would be aimed toward lowering the

1409
01:52:54,800 --> 01:53:01,440
iso ratings for as many folks as we can
in the county

1410
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:05,520
it obviously whatever we do will also
help the volunteer fire departments but

1411
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:09,360
the real aim is to find something that's
going to lower

1412
01:53:06,719 --> 01:53:14,880
the iso rating for the as many again as
many people as we can which which goes

1413
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:19,920
to mr carriger's point of helping our
taxpayers have lower insurance costs

1414
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:24,880
yeah so just before we leave i'm going
to advocate in just a second for our

1415
01:53:21,920 --> 01:53:29,520
policy of our departments because
as mr wheeler and

1416
01:53:27,360 --> 01:53:35,840
the fundraiser over the last two years
for them has been close to zero because

1417
01:53:33,280 --> 01:53:39,119
um the bean dinners and the barbecues
and the other stuff that they've done

1418
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:41,920
you know where certain gatherings really
were

1419
01:53:39,840 --> 01:53:46,320
to get
you know as close as either

1420
01:53:44,239 --> 01:53:49,040
also several years ago
the state

1421
01:53:47,520 --> 01:53:52,080
fire marshal
came deal with a

1422
01:53:50,800 --> 01:53:56,000
ruling
that

1423
01:53:53,119 --> 01:54:00,159
was almost directed at volunteer
firefighters with respect to self

1424
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:05,520
fireworks so the number of our volunteer
fire departments had sold fireworks

1425
01:54:03,280 --> 01:54:09,360
they came here with the school where
essentially you had to have a sprinklers

1426
01:54:09,599 --> 01:54:14,960
i mean it was ridiculous absolutely
but

1427
01:54:13,119 --> 01:54:18,480
you know the groups of the town figured
out a little bit of a walk around so

1428
01:54:16,639 --> 01:54:23,360
they're doing some of that but that was
that was a huge deal for

1429
01:54:20,840 --> 01:54:27,280
them due to commercial wheeler's point
they have really been

1430
01:54:25,679 --> 01:54:33,040
restricted
so if you think about it

1431
01:54:29,119 --> 01:54:38,800
these volunteers fire departments serve
to protect our community

1432
01:54:35,679 --> 01:54:42,719
at a much lower rate
if

1433
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:46,800
we had to have a fire protection service
with him that would be multiple millions

1434
01:54:45,679 --> 01:54:49,200
of dollars
and

1435
01:54:47,840 --> 01:54:52,359
the commissioners
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1436
01:54:58,560 --> 01:55:04,639
in my mind i'm wondering i'm wondering
if the business model

1437
01:55:02,639 --> 01:55:08,400
will volunteer fire departments needs to
be challenged city has to look at two

1438
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:12,560
things first
whether what the cost would be in the

1439
01:55:10,800 --> 01:55:17,440
flash benefit
um and if you paid firefighters in each

1440
01:55:15,119 --> 01:55:20,320
station so the cost is well over five
million dollars that the county would

1441
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:25,119
have
um and they were looking at other things

1442
01:55:22,719 --> 01:55:31,040
around that whether or not it would also
create the need for a county fire chief

1443
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:35,440
and and other things that would
additionally raise that cost

1444
01:55:33,040 --> 01:55:41,199
secondly they were looking at
the program that the county's

1445
01:55:37,599 --> 01:55:45,040
initiatives can initiate on its own
and that is combining ems

1446
01:55:43,840 --> 01:55:49,840
and then
has been very cooperative with volunteer

1447
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:53,280
fire departments to put a couple of ems
folks into

1448
01:55:51,760 --> 01:55:59,679
the fire hall
be there 24 7 answer the phones and

1449
01:55:56,880 --> 01:56:02,560
begin to move a fire protection vehicle
to the city

1450
01:56:00,880 --> 01:56:08,400
so that volunteers don't have to come to
the station sometimes passing the fire

1451
01:56:05,679 --> 01:56:12,080
on their way just to go back so
where is it implemented that's worked

1452
01:56:10,719 --> 01:56:15,679
great
um

1453
01:56:13,199 --> 01:56:20,719
it hasn't worked great in every station
for various reasons so

1454
01:56:18,320 --> 01:56:28,719
cjs was also looking at what that model
might do to help us to reduce uh

1455
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:28,719
response times that fire

1456
01:56:30,159 --> 01:56:36,159
that's what you'll expect to see in
there before

1457
01:56:33,199 --> 01:56:40,560
uh not a lot of detail as to how the
individual environment departments

1458
01:56:38,639 --> 01:56:44,639
operate
with respect to purchasing throughout

1459
01:56:43,280 --> 01:56:47,599
the year and
the punishment stopped turning out

1460
01:56:46,000 --> 01:56:51,280
either has a light
that's the suits the air packs and all

1461
01:56:49,440 --> 01:56:55,110
that stuff that you use it has a
timeline light after a certain amount of

1462
01:56:52,880 --> 01:56:58,310
time it has to be replaced
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1463
01:57:05,360 --> 01:57:08,599
their other

1464
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:16,719
subsidy comes from the the benefits of
federal travel

1465
01:57:17,440 --> 01:57:23,840
um they are as
a group

1466
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:29,599
we're independent organizations you've
ever been around the entire house they

1467
01:57:26,239 --> 01:57:32,320
each have a very unique character
and um

1468
01:57:32,480 --> 01:57:38,000
i mean he is achieved
and

1469
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:40,960
you can't just say hey are you volunteer
fire departments here's how we're going

1470
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:45,280
to do it
okay that would not be a good meeting no

1471
01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:47,600
sir
so

1472
01:57:46,080 --> 01:57:51,440
they all have their own way
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1473
01:57:48,719 --> 01:57:54,560
and they're all very effective
at what they did

1474
01:57:52,960 --> 01:57:58,719
but um
one of the things that i haven't seen in

1475
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:04,320
any of this yet we're going to
replace radiators for those times

1476
01:58:01,760 --> 01:58:10,400
we replace radios
in police departments and

1477
01:58:06,719 --> 01:58:13,280
others in the past that's coming
out another year or two alan tells me

1478
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:18,000
that
you know that's fine

1479
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:20,639
okay nobody wants to see anybody wrong
okay

1480
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:23,199
thank you thank you
thank you mayor

1481
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:30,719
i know we're going to talk a lot about
expenses tonight tomorrow night but

1482
01:58:29,280 --> 01:58:33,840
definitely will come time we'll need to
talk about revenue

1483
01:58:32,400 --> 01:58:37,840
i guess there's where the rubber meets
the road sometimes

1484
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:41,119
so definitely we need to make a not to
put revenue on our list

1485
01:58:41,520 --> 01:58:48,400
and have some revenue recommendations
and get some things solved

1486
01:58:46,480 --> 01:58:54,239
all right
anything else is there anything we want

1487
01:58:50,159 --> 01:58:54,239
to add to our agenda for tomorrow night

1488
01:58:56,239 --> 01:58:58,960
we can do that

1489
01:59:01,599 --> 01:59:08,560
all right we have a motion to adjourn
made by commissioner

1490
01:59:06,800 --> 01:59:12,560
davenport to adjourn second by
commissioner carriger all those in favor

1491
01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:18,599
of germany signify for saying hi
all opposed side

1492
01:59:15,360 --> 01:59:18,599
we're jeremy