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to order for monday april 18th

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and our first committee is claims

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yes i'd like thank you i'd like to open

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the claims on

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the claims meeting

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and i'd like to uh we have two claims on

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the on the docket and one of them is

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going to

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uh include our outside counsel so i'd

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like to uh call for a motion to go into

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executive session

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is there's

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a second you're thinking i'm

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okay so we're gonna go into executive

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session

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oh

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true

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all right um next on the agenda we have

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a presentation by all of us it's going

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to be on the results of the black

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freedom project community safety survey

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so i'd like to invite to make miles and

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shawnee to come up

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and uh all council members should

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actually

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oops

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microphones fire microphones yes it

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should be rubbed right yep

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all council members should actually have

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a copy of the survey

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so

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yes um and actually we have two other

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documents to share with you all that

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we're gonna talk about going to just

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take the beach and then pass it around

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oh

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good evening

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and uh thank you for the opportunity to

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be able to share this information with

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you

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um

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it is their community safety survey that

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we conducted

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we appreciate the opportunity to share

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with all of you as we have shared with

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others

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um

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as i think most people in this room know

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young um were both born and raised here

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in the city of schenectady and we

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founded our organization all of us in

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the city of schenectady

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what you might not know is actually our

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organizational bishop which is to

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support and strengthen marginalized

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communities in the fight for black

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liberation

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and an end to all forms of racism

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oppression and exploitation and doing so

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through uniting people across socially

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created divisions

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we understand the importance of

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collective work therefore we have been

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intentional

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to develop relationships with other

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groups and organizations locally and

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across the state

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as such all of us as a member of the

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black freedom project the black media

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project is a coalition of black

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organizers and black focused

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organizations across new york state

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also known as bfp

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last native project together with the

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public science project research team

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developed this community survey to

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understand what we as black new yorkers

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believe keeps us safe and what

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investments institutions programs and

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policies would positively impact our

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communities

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all of us knows how important a survey

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dedicating to illuminating the

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perspectives of black and african

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american participants is

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black viewpoints have historically been

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excluded or underrepresented in most

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research studies

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research intentionally focused on the

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black community makes a unique and

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important contribution to discussions

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and planning regarding safety and

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allocation of resources in the city of

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schenectady

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this survey also is about community

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engagement next slide

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yeah so

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as you see on the screen we let people

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know where to serve will be on specific

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dates within the community as well as

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spend time walking in our community our

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ground game focused primarily on the

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hamilton hill and mount pleasant

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neighborhoods we met because we met

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people where they were at whether

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walking down the street at home or at

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local stores and shops throughout the

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community we share digital flyers on our

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social media platform and paper ones

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that community events and political

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organizations and institutions

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listed on this slide as you see up there

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are locations of partners we worked with

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to reach black people within our

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community our focus was places of known

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community gatherings barbershops

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libraries food pantries community

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centers etc meeting people where they

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were at was not just about physical

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location but also about giving the

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access and support needed for

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participating in the survey some folks

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comfortable taking surveying on tablets

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or laptops other preferred hard copy the

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survey was administered by ourselves and

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some trained volunteers next slide

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the survey results are based on 305

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black residents in the city of

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schenectady identified by zip code

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while there were many different

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demographics collected within the survey

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this is the breakdown by age the largest

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number of respondents as you can see on

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the screen were between the ages of 36

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and 45 but there was representation

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between ages of 16 and up

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the one other respondent

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is an individual that even though they

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originally identified as being at least

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16 years old

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indicated a number that was it was

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outside the parameters

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one of the handouts you all received was

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the list of the other types of

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demographics that were collected in the

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survey

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and it shows not just the questions

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asked but the inclusiveness of the

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options for answers as well as the

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opportunity for individuals to choose

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not to answer next slide please

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the very first question which we see

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here was to confirm that the individual

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was at least 16 years old and that they

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identify with black

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being black does not mean that you do

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not identify with any other race or

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ethnicity and individuals included if

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they did indeed identify with other

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races or ethnicities

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we'll quickly go through the next four

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slides that are the questions the

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participants were asked and there were

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questions regarding investments current

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institutions and policies

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current institutions and practices and

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policies next slide

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they were first asked about the

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allocation of money next slide

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what safety means and looks like for

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people in the black community next life

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prioritization of policies they were

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given a list of policies and they were

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able to choose each policy was in a high

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priority a medium priority a low

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priority a policy they didn't want it

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off or something they were not sure of

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and also the opportunity to describe

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their answers what was it they did or

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didn't like about that policy next slide

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as you all saw this previously this is

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the list of those policies that were

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included in the survey next slide

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all right so the results of those

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questions are nets so included are both

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quantitative and qualitative data now

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again this was to understand what safe

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healthy and thriving communities mean to

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the black community

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three buckets if you will are investment

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current institutions and practices and

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policies next slide please

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all right so here we have a city budget

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so when asked to imagine themselves

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being in charge of the city budget and

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responsible for reducing a safe and

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driving community on average schenectady

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residents that participate in the survey

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prioritize long-term housing for all and

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expanding access to healthy food and

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hunger prevention services next slide

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please

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the next three which are all very close

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in allocation are quality physical and

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mental health care for all high quality

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public schools and living wage jobs for

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people all education levels the constant

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presence of police and police quit and

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receive the lowest amount of funding

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next slide please

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jails prisons and detention centers now

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when asked about jail's prison attention

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centers the great's response was to move

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away from imprisonment and toward

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diversity programs such as mentoring

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programs associative justice programs

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and job programs

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yeah no it should have been the next

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time after this this is where we stayed

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okay so yeah

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i'm going to tell you to skip three

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slides ahead

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there it is that's all right yeah okay

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so on slides 15-17 75 percent of

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respondents will prefer a greater

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emphasis on community-based violence

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prevention programs that move away from

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police presence

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or responses as relates to preventing

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and responding alignments

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the next question asked about emergency

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response in the community 66 are

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responsible for a greater emphasis on

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first responders through emergencies

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that are unarmed and without threat of

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arrest

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very hard to read on the screen

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but also in your packets this is the

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policy breakdown where they were able to

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decide high priority medium priority low

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priority etc etc as was mentioned

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they were able to choose a different one

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for each policy for each policy they

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indicated if it were

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which priority applied to them

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when prioritizing policies

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more jobs for all levels of education

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with good benefits that pay enough to

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support a family was a high priority for

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85 percent of participants as was more

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food and nutritional assistance programs

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to address hunger

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a high priority for 84 of participants

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where affordable housing not shelters

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for families and individuals who become

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homeless and more money for public

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schools so that they have the space

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staff and resources they need to support

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all their students

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what we saw in the policies were similar

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to the allocation of resources next

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we've included a sample a small sample

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of the comments and written responses

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for three of the policies that were

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listed next slide

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yeah here we have a slightest about

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affordable housing not sheltered for

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families and individuals who become

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homeless now these are what folks have

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worked on to indicate some ideas about

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what they meant

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as you see on the screen

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folks like there are a lot of homeless

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people in the city

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having a safe environment to call home

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is so important for our community

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every person is entitled to clean safe

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living situation

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the rent is too damn high rent has

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skyrocketed and is outrageous are part

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of the comments from the community and

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what they were thinking

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next slide

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it's important to note that none of the

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comments were altered in any way

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they are reported as they were written

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they weren't changed for grammar or

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spelling or context however it was

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written that's what they wrote um that's

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how we recorded it and so for this

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particular policy it was to remove all

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forms of policing from public schools

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and replaced with school counselors

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psychologists behavioral specialists and

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trauma therapists

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again this is a sampling of what was

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seen within the survey

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not enough attention is given to the

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mental impact police presence has in

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schools

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in my experience police presence hasn't

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affected school a lot

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youth need to have someone listen to

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them and not judge that they will

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automatically be violent

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there's any number of examples that are

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in this slide that you all had

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previously

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and that we collected as part of this

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survey next slide

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so this is a larger police presence in

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the community on public transportation

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around the city and the schools and et

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cetera we see other comments from our

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community

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um no police presence they do too much

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harm

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it's good and bad which is important

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that's actually a really important point

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right there so out of all the folks that

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we gave the survey to there were folks

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that landed on different sides of

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talking about whether or not they wanted

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the police in the community or not but

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what we did notice a really good

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takeaway was that no matter who was on

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that survey on average everyone could

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all prioritize all these other things as

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being important to safety uh in their

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community um so that's really important

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so you get to see someone here saying

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good and bad um and you know well

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coordinated not more so not that it's

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about you know not having this at all

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but that they need to be well glory and

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they're addressing nature when they can

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next slide

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so what are the next steps

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we spent weeks talking to community

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members being really intentional about

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where we went

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from november through january the

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research the information that we

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gathered and then went to the research

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team in new york city they compiled the

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data and sent it back to us

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and when we started the survey we made a

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commitment to share the results back out

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with the community as well as other

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stakeholders

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as an example we presented the results

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to the police chief representatives from

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each of his departments

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as part of the continuing research that

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we are doing we are facilitating

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data-driven focus groups we actually

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held our first one on april 7th

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back at sikkim and we'll continue to go

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back to the locations where we started

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we'll go back to

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city michigan go back to the seat center

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we'll go back to the libraries in both

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hamilton hill and mount pleasant because

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those were the two major focuses of our

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area

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that's it so we'll take any questions

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but we look forward to the opportunity

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to be able to continue to share with you

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the false ideas concerns from community

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members supporting you and your mission

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to move forward policies and resources

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that represent the interest of the

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residents you serve

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it's really important and that last

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piece that i wrote there is about a

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community engagement how often are their

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who we're talking to and the

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conversation we're able to bring back to

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you all over suppressing the needs of

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the community it's not

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been seen at least in my you know it's

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my time here that there's been surveys

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like this and the type of engagement

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necessary to really

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hear from the community in the ways that

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actually have an impact

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any questions

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so i wanted to first thank you both of

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you for the efforts and investments you

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made into this survey

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as a person that took this uh and

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identified as a cisgender male who was a

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black schenectadian it was a mouthful

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in no way did i interpret oh your

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presentation has an all-encompassing

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gauge of all things affecting every

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single black person within this

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community how i internalized your words

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was more or less as a guide to help us

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define some areas that we could

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potentially address and have more of a

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pulse towards towards directing our

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efforts

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so with that there are a number of steps

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that are being being taken at this

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moment throughout the city

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what is the frequency of this survey to

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potentially grade the efforts that are

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undertaken

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i mean that's part of our future

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planning right the the work that i

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particularly have been doing for more

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than 10 years is to be a constant

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presence in this city that i was born

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and raised in

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to talk to community members and find

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out what's going on

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education and and safety are two of our

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main priorities as an organization um

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and so

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it is a bit of cyclical work right um to

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have these conversations find out what

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the community is saying and what's in

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their best interest based on their their

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needs on the lived experiences and as

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well as the data that we've seen from

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across the nation

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bring it back and then go have

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continuing conversations those focus

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groups so

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if there are particular things that we

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see arise we're then able to continue to

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work with the research team and create

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other surveys and have conversations um

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they've been a wonderful resource and

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they continue to support the work

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and i'll just i'll add to the you know

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one of the things that's an issue with

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addressing um

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things in the community is the

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consistency in which we're actually

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speaking with our community members and

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engaging them enough and what the issues

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are happening that we don't do it enough

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00:56:42,839 --> 00:56:45,040
um for more opportunities to do that but

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actually um one of the cars that we have

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is coming back with the information that

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we gathered in our community um through

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community focus groups we already had

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one um at sycamore another one

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electricity bar and the libraries just

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so that like so one of the things that

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does is allow us one to like uh

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um give to the community the words that

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are from that community like we're going

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to put flowers up for people that take a

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00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:09,119
survey to come back out here kind of

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these are results of that um and it's

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important to do that right so that we're

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engaged and that we act as a community

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that we're not we're not in this by

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ourselves right one of the things i tell

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a lot of people is that when you step

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outside of your house um you walk onto

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that sidewalk you go to a store like

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this belongs to you this is your city um

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it's a collective ownership but it

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belongs to all the same have some say so

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how this thing goes for you and having

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fun something we didn't mention that i

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think is important and we should have is

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that when we go back out to share this

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information

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everyone is welcome to come

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so when we were back at sikkim it wasn't

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just individuals that took the survey

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there were other individuals in the room

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there were also individuals that took

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the survey and could speak from their

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personal experience taking the survey

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and then hearing those results but there

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were other community partners as well

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bob carroll from the skype foundation

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was there

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tom from sicko was there so those

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partners being able to be part of that

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conversation as we share the information

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back out and then hearing their

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responses because we have that as well

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we have those um responses for

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what they said at that meeting which i

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believe is the other um

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yeah

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i have a question so you identified some

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things and what immediately came to my

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mind was about jobs and that was an

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important thing so

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since that was identified as such a high

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priority what steps are you actually

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taking to address that

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with other groups or however however

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you're facilitating that i mean when it

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comes to policies right there there are

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some very broad things listed

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and so part of those focus groups is

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then identifying down where do these

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community members see a potential for

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that to be addressed

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because one of the wonderful things

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00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,359
about going out and talking to the

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00:58:57,359 --> 00:58:58,880
community is that they are filled with

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ideas

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they have the answers to the problems

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00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,160
it's just that no one's ever asked them

525
00:59:04,160 --> 00:59:06,160
so as part of these focus groups it's

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okay so if we say jobs what does that

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mean but is

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that focus group

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00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:13,760
pulling in on that particular issue we

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00:59:13,760 --> 00:59:16,079
were at sikkim so a lot of conversation

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around food as well as housing

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00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,960
some of the other conversations that

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have been had about jobs is how do we

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create support

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00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:28,559
for people to move into careers as a

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pathway

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00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:34,160
your favorite example is um whenever we

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00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,640
have construction here in the city how

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00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:39,040
are we ensuring that our own residents

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00:59:39,040 --> 00:59:41,599
are actually getting those jobs and that

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00:59:41,599 --> 00:59:43,520
money stays here in the community how

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00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,200
can we foster that what does that look

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00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,760
like in addition to that like we've had

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00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:50,400
a conversation with folks with cnn

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00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,280
workforce initiative um and other like

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00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:54,480
um

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00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,400
uh the map program already something i

548
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:58,400
spoke about here about and it's in the

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00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:00,559
map program is a multi-architectural

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01:00:00,559 --> 01:00:02,319
pre-apprenticeship program and it just

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01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:03,520
meets people in the community where

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01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,720
they're at as far as i understand what

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01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:06,559
the construction trades it's a stipend

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01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:08,960
six month program learning the basis of

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construction and another four month

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01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:13,280
disciplinary program on whatever whether

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01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,680
it's uh roofing or electrical work or

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01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:17,680
whatever um that's stipend and then

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01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:18,960
there's a partnership with the union

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01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,240
that gets them jobs working on

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01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,160
initiatives in the community to help

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01:00:22,160 --> 01:00:23,599
revitalize it so those are the

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01:00:23,599 --> 01:00:24,960
conversations we're having and we'd love

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01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:26,480
to see actually have again it's

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01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,119
connected so we're doing our work there

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01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:30,720
to bring those type of ideas here and

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01:00:30,720 --> 01:00:32,319
just have that conversation into the

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01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,400
community

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01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:38,069
any other questions

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01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:39,599
well thank you very much for coming in

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01:00:39,599 --> 01:00:41,839
for sharing this information and if the

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01:00:41,839 --> 01:00:43,280
public wanted to see this is this a

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01:00:43,280 --> 01:00:45,599
public document that people can access

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01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:48,559
to so we haven't yet posted it online um

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we're trying to figure out what's the best way the most accessible way to

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do that dropping it in the google drive

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isn't always necessarily

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best fit right now

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we were able to share it out

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electronically i had to fix a couple

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typos so

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it's coming

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and

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if anyone is interested and want to copy

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they can email us

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free gmail.com

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well thank you very much for coming

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appreciate it

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i would like to call the public safety

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committee to order we have one item on

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the agenda today that is the school

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community engagement officer and that

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will be presented by either chief

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quicker or ac and or right

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okay

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um

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all right

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microphone

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no no but staying as close to this one

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as you can

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alright over here

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okay well good evening and thank you for

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having me um i put together a powerpoint

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presentation

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i have chief whipple with me and i also

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have sergeant lin here with me also

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and if any members of the council has

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questions

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but

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we're here to talk about community

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engagement officer which is a

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truly a partnership between the school

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district

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and the and the police department

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now

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it's important to start off with

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new york state governor's executive

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order 203 which was

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brought to us two years ago by governor

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cuomo

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and the recommendations uh derived from

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the collaboration that was held in

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response to that executive order which

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was then ratified by the city council on

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may 22 march 22nd of 2021

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signed by mayor mccarthy on march 31st

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and submitted to the state included

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two recommendations that were that really embodied community

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engagement and those were the creation

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of a community engagement officer

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01:03:36,640 --> 01:03:39,039
uh unit of officers that received

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specialized training in the areas of

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harm reduction in addition to community

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health initiative training

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building a model

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within community policing where these

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officers will work to reduce the

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negative consequences of using drugs

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while understanding that an individual

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may not immediately stop

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that model was really specifically

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towards creating a unit that would go

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out and focus on harm reduction within

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our community but then number 18 of the

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recommendations was to expand our

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community policing efforts

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on the staff department to allow for

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community policing unit that will build

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neighborhood collaborations to build

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trust solve problems and reduce crime

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so that was put into the recommendations

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so why do we need police in schools

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that's why we're here today talking

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um many members of our community have

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asked that question i want to start off

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by saying that on any given day

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population of scentsy high school

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is approximately 2 800 students and

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staff

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in illinois middle school that number is

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approximately 780

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mount pleasant 870 steinmetz 315 central

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park middle school 800 and that's just

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those schools right there

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so concentrated populations

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of any of this size anywhere within the

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city

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would always be met with a threat

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assessment from the police department

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and we're talking about internal and

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external sources of that kind of

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population all coming together

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now the city of santa fe school district

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has had a history of police related

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issues

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that have been a concern to the police

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department leadership

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over the last few years and i brought

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those issues to

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former superintendent larry sprang

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and most recently uh superintendent

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annabal

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the concerns we had were that the staff

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had been discouraged from contacting the

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police

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this is feedback we got directly from

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the staff

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teachers administrators support workers

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there were incidents that were not

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reported to the police assaults that

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occurred in the school

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past assault disclosures

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threats

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menacing

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students coming into the school with

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weapons

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not being reported

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01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:03,760
investigations that were of criminal

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01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:04,720
nature

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i'm sorry investigations that involved

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that of a crime

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that were the investigations were

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started and completed

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01:06:12,319 --> 01:06:16,150
prior to reporting it to the police

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fights

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in

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or near the schools

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lunchtime

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sergeant linear can expand more on that

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but lunchtime many fights in the schools

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um and then in the neighboring community

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outside of the school

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and not specifically the high school but

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other schools like oneida and mount

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pleasant middle school

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persons with mental health disorder in

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the school district

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um not always having local crisis unit

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within the school

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available to be utilized

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trespassing

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of suspended students excel students

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parents of students coming into the

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school

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trespassers with no affiliation like

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students from other schools

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01:07:01,280 --> 01:07:03,119
and then other and then students leaving

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school grounds

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um and engaging

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in an activity outside the school

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district that would receive that would

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prompt people to call the police

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it's important to note that many of

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these concerns almost all of them

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were noted and brought to us before our

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global pandemic of 2020 and when the

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pandemic hit in school shut down it kind

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of

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hit pause for us

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so

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i had a report generated and everything

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that was going to go to superintendent

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01:07:32,480 --> 01:07:35,839
spring and then the pandemic had

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but when the same pattern emerged in the

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01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:39,520
first two months of this school year

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2021

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i called for a meeting with

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superintendent solaire

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and he brought his leadership staff in

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so we could discuss this issue

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and that is when a partnership was

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formed

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to see

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the

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partnership was formed to solve what was

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seen as a safety crisis that was

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developing within the school district

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01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,559
so the concept that we came up with that

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01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:08,960
we agreed that police were needed to

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help solve the safety uh crisis that was

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developing

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but we would need to meet and look at

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01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:18,719
what that would look like what our role

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will be in the schools

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01:08:20,239 --> 01:08:21,679
so the leadership of the school district

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and the leadership of the police

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01:08:22,799 --> 01:08:24,960
department we collaborated on many

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meetings to discuss the needs of the

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school district community

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we conceptualized the community

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engagement model

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the one that i just explained to you

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that was derived out of the executive

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order 203

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and what was needed within the school

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district itself

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that police officers would have to be

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specially trained

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[Music]

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and that we would want to make sure that

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we

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not only provided them the training that

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teachers and administrators in the

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school district were getting but that

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we're also going to reach out to

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industry leaders

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in the school resource officer training

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01:09:03,120 --> 01:09:06,960
field and get them the training also

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01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,799
so a true partnership form meeting with

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mayor mccarthy and superintendent

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01:09:10,480 --> 01:09:12,159
solaire

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it was agreed upon that the school

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district

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that officers in the school benefited

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the city

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and school district equally so the cost

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01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:24,709
of the program should be shared equally

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one of my uh one of my requirements for

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this to happen was accountability

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we recognize that um

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nobody wants to be placed you know

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01:09:35,520 --> 01:09:37,279
in our perfect world police aren't even

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01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:38,319
needed

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01:09:38,319 --> 01:09:40,239
um and that the presence of the police

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01:09:40,239 --> 01:09:41,920
officers may make some students

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01:09:41,920 --> 01:09:43,279
uncomfortable

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01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:44,880
and to get past that

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we're going to build trust we're going

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to be

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really focused on building trucks

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i'm sorry building

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trust

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01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:54,080
officers need to be held accountable to

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01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:56,239
meet the needs of the student population

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and deliver that

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01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,679
consistent level of service to the

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01:09:59,679 --> 01:10:02,960
population over time

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01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:04,640
to accomplish this consistent

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supervision would be necessary to

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accelerate that trust building that's

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why i asked for a

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um a sergeant to be well i i required a

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sergeant be placed

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in the school district

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pilot program to start off

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so the plan

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this is a map of the city that's

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connected with all the schools

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and the plan that we came up with was

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two officers in the high school

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you just got to hit the buttons

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to also in high school

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01:10:36,640 --> 01:10:38,159
and then the other school dish the

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schools that we were really focused on

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were the two the four middle schools

836
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,880
mount pleasant middle school not

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01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,800
pleasant valley middle school is

838
01:10:48,800 --> 01:10:51,120
not named correctly that's an elementary

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school so we were focused on those

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01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:54,080
middle schools

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01:10:54,080 --> 01:10:55,840
and then we didn't want to forget the

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01:10:55,840 --> 01:11:00,790
elementary schools

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01:11:00,800 --> 01:11:03,990
there's a whole bunch of them

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01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:05,840
so

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01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:10,550
taking all the schools into account

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01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:12,880
again the plan really was came down to

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01:11:12,880 --> 01:11:15,360
that we would want a sergeant to oversee

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01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:16,880
this whole program

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01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:18,960
we would put two officers in the high

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01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:22,000
school because the population was 2800

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01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:24,159
we would then place one officer that

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would be

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01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,360
assigned to

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01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,600
oneida middle school and central park

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01:11:29,600 --> 01:11:31,679
middle school one officer for both

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01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:34,000
schools go back and forth and be there

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01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,159
to meet the needs of the community as

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01:11:36,159 --> 01:11:37,280
needed

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01:11:37,280 --> 01:11:39,040
one officer from mount pleasant middle

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01:11:39,040 --> 01:11:41,520
school and

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01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,239
steinbeck's career leadership academy

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01:11:44,239 --> 01:11:45,679
and washington irving that will

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01:11:45,679 --> 01:11:47,520
basically meet the needs of those three

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01:11:47,520 --> 01:11:48,880
there

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and

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[Music]

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the sergeant would be a floater to float

868
01:11:52,719 --> 01:11:55,679
between them as needed and then we would

869
01:11:55,679 --> 01:11:56,640
have

870
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,880
one officer that would go

871
01:11:58,880 --> 01:12:01,199
to float between all of the elementary

872
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,360
schools

873
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:04,960
and that's how we got to the number of

874
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,470
six

875
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:14,719
the cost of 100 000 plus benefits

876
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:16,080
that was the number that was used to

877
01:12:16,080 --> 01:12:18,320
calculate the share of expense and the

878
01:12:18,320 --> 01:12:20,159
easy math is

879
01:12:20,159 --> 01:12:23,280
sharing 100 dollars that's 50 000

880
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:26,320
for the school 50 000 for the city

881
01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:27,280
but

882
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,320
as the years go on and raise it in cost

883
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:33,199
increase approximate raises we built in

884
01:12:33,199 --> 01:12:35,520
a two percent increase so

885
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:36,880
year two would be a hundred and two

886
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:38,000
thousand

887
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,159
fifty percent of each fifty one thousand

888
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:41,600
year three

889
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:43,760
two percent on top of that so year three

890
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,719
would be fifty two thousand twenty each

891
01:12:46,719 --> 01:12:48,719
now this agreement maintains that all

892
01:12:48,719 --> 01:12:50,480
over time associated with working in

893
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:51,520
schools

894
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:52,800
such as

895
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,199
varsity uh games

896
01:12:55,199 --> 01:12:57,440
dances things like that

897
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,840
paid 100 by the district which is our

898
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:02,000
current arrangement so those those

899
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,480
numbers were simply just for staffing

900
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:08,870
during school days

901
01:13:08,880 --> 01:13:14,790
so that's the cost so what's the benefit

902
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,080
that i see

903
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:17,600
is building the building of bonds

904
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,280
between students and officers and what they do they lead to they lead to

905
01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,199
an improved sense of safety

906
01:13:23,199 --> 01:13:25,360
inside the school outside the school we

907
01:13:25,360 --> 01:13:28,400
want students and staff and faculty to

908
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:31,199
feel safe in

909
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,760
it school benefit by having improved

910
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,360
interaction with police officers for

911
01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,280
students they will become familiar with

912
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:39,280
police officers you'll feel comfortable

913
01:13:39,280 --> 01:13:41,199
going up to them whether it's

914
01:13:41,199 --> 01:13:43,760
inside school or outside the school

915
01:13:43,760 --> 01:13:45,280
they'll have a better understanding of

916
01:13:45,280 --> 01:13:49,510
them by the mutual respect

917
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:52,320
i personally have experienced

918
01:13:52,320 --> 01:13:54,800
cases where

919
01:13:54,800 --> 01:13:56,320
back when we had school resource

920
01:13:56,320 --> 01:13:58,480
officers they got to know the student

921
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:01,199
body so well it paid dividends years

922
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:03,679
into the future i'd be out on calls

923
01:14:03,679 --> 01:14:06,400
where situations were tense and those

924
01:14:06,400 --> 01:14:07,920
officers that were school resource

925
01:14:07,920 --> 01:14:09,520
officers were able to go in there and

926
01:14:09,520 --> 01:14:11,120
comp things down simply because they

927
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:12,960
knew the person

928
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:14,960
that was possibly being problematic or

929
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:16,560
they knew one of the complaints and they

930
01:14:16,560 --> 01:14:19,760
were able to uh ease tension so

931
01:14:19,760 --> 01:14:22,320
that familiarity to me is one of the

932
01:14:22,320 --> 01:14:23,840
biggest benefits

933
01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:26,800
and it's an investment that

934
01:14:26,800 --> 01:14:29,360
goes into the future you know

935
01:14:29,360 --> 01:14:31,520
students that are 10 years old now will

936
01:14:31,520 --> 01:14:32,800
know police officers the rest of their

937
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:34,719
lives

938
01:14:34,719 --> 01:14:36,560
students who trust officers will bring

939
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:38,560
problems to them that they have for

940
01:14:38,560 --> 01:14:41,360
justice guidance for counseling

941
01:14:41,360 --> 01:14:44,239
that's another important piece is that

942
01:14:44,239 --> 01:14:46,239
we want access to the police department

943
01:14:46,239 --> 01:14:48,159
to be there for for the students if they

944
01:14:48,159 --> 01:14:49,920
need it they don't feel comfortable

945
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:52,560
giving it at home or being able to call

946
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,400
and get police officers

947
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,480
and and then the last benefit really is

948
01:14:58,480 --> 01:14:59,840
for the school

949
01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,239
to reduce reduce need for for police

950
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,640
being called to the schools

951
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,000
they um

952
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:09,840
they get priority service in the schools

953
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:11,280
what the benefit for the school is for

954
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:14,000
the for the city

955
01:15:14,000 --> 01:15:15,199
we're going to have

956
01:15:15,199 --> 01:15:16,400
problems

957
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:17,440
dealt with

958
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:19,840
before they become bigger

959
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,360
nip it in the mud

960
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:23,280
be able to address things before they

961
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,120
turn into a police call

962
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,990
and

963
01:15:28,000 --> 01:15:30,239
basically pay it forward within the

964
01:15:30,239 --> 01:15:31,280
school

965
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:33,920
system itself as far as taking care of

966
01:15:33,920 --> 01:15:40,630
themselves policing themselves

967
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:43,840
we started we recognized the lead in

968
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,679
september

969
01:15:45,679 --> 01:15:47,920
and october that's when our discussion

970
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:50,480
phase was we implemented this program in

971
01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:52,560
november you'll see the calls for

972
01:15:52,560 --> 01:15:54,600
service were

973
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:57,920
11217 those two months respectfully

974
01:15:57,920 --> 01:15:59,920
they the pilot program starts they drop

975
01:15:59,920 --> 01:16:04,560
down to 68 they go up to 89 57 61.80 so

976
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:06,560
there is a reduction in the calls for

977
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,480
service that originated from the school

978
01:16:08,480 --> 01:16:10,880
district with the implementation of the

979
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:13,679
pilot program which was just simply two

980
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:17,110
officers

981
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:23,910
so our request before you now would be

982
01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,679
as part of our police reform and

983
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:27,760
reinvention collaborative

984
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,199
texas county police department and the

985
01:16:29,199 --> 01:16:30,960
city school district wish to enter into

986
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:32,880
an agreement for the police department

987
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,520
to provide up to six officers five

988
01:16:35,520 --> 01:16:37,520
officers and one sergeant as community

989
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:39,440
engagement officers assigned to the

990
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:43,110
designated city schools

991
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:44,960
this uh this agreement would take the

992
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:47,040
effect july 1st and run through june

993
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:50,400
30th 2023

994
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:52,400
it is for a total of six officers but

995
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:54,400
our phase one would be

996
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,760
to add

997
01:16:55,760 --> 01:17:00,310
three officers immediately

998
01:17:00,320 --> 01:17:02,960
and then at the beginning of 2023

999
01:17:02,960 --> 01:17:04,800
september of 23

1000
01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:08,880
to add those additional three officers

1001
01:17:08,880 --> 01:17:10,640
we had to do this to get them properly

1002
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,640
trained i can't just take six officers

1003
01:17:12,640 --> 01:17:15,360
out of my staffing that i currently have

1004
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,920
and we would request that

1005
01:17:17,920 --> 01:17:20,719
for the 2022 budget that i add those

1006
01:17:20,719 --> 01:17:22,560
three positions

1007
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:24,719
that is a budget neutral

1008
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:26,320
um request

1009
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:28,320
because the amount of money that we

1010
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:30,159
would receive

1011
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:31,840
from the school district should cover

1012
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,760
the cost of the officers going to the

1013
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,080
police academy to replace the officers

1014
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:37,600
that are in schools

1015
01:17:37,600 --> 01:17:40,159
and then we would be making this another

1016
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:42,080
an additional request for the three in

1017
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:47,350
our 23 2023 budget request

1018
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:51,750
that is your comment

1019
01:17:51,760 --> 01:17:53,760
thank you and we will uh open it up to

1020
01:17:53,760 --> 01:17:56,400
any questions at this time

1021
01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,719
thank you and thank you ac

1022
01:17:58,719 --> 01:17:59,679
um

1023
01:17:59,679 --> 01:18:01,760
i think it's appropriate to hear from

1024
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:04,000
our resource officer that's here uh if

1025
01:18:04,000 --> 01:18:05,840
unless there any objections would you

1026
01:18:05,840 --> 01:18:07,440
mind coming up to the front and talking

1027
01:18:07,440 --> 01:18:11,110
about a typical day

1028
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,040
it's briefly summarizing i imagine it

1029
01:18:13,040 --> 01:18:14,159
came from that

1030
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:16,239
so so the days vary based on the needs

1031
01:18:16,239 --> 01:18:19,520
of the district um

1032
01:18:19,520 --> 01:18:22,560
uh early on i mean me and officer rivera

1033
01:18:22,560 --> 01:18:24,640
usually sign in the kids that are in

1034
01:18:24,640 --> 01:18:28,080
school late and then it's responding on

1035
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:29,840
a neat basis so

1036
01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:30,880
um

1037
01:18:30,880 --> 01:18:33,040
you know we have to keep in mind there's

1038
01:18:33,040 --> 01:18:34,400
17

1039
01:18:34,400 --> 01:18:37,040
uh different schools within the district

1040
01:18:37,040 --> 01:18:40,400
so you know they could be initial uh you

1041
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:42,320
know child major disclosure at mount

1042
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:44,320
pleasant middle school or

1043
01:18:44,320 --> 01:18:48,000
howe elementary um they range between

1044
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:49,600
you know we've had threats written on

1045
01:18:49,600 --> 01:18:52,840
the wall specifics as it relates to

1046
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,360
um you know

1047
01:18:55,360 --> 01:18:57,840
whether they say they're gonna

1048
01:18:57,840 --> 01:19:00,400
cause harm at uh on a circle at a

1049
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:02,800
certain school at a certain time so you

1050
01:19:02,800 --> 01:19:03,840
know

1051
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,560
it it varies i mean i've talked to

1052
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,480
staff members about

1053
01:19:08,480 --> 01:19:12,070
the eviction process

1054
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,040
and

1055
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,320
again it just depends on the day

1056
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:19,590
good thank you

1057
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:21,679
are there any questions from my fellow

1058
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:24,000
council members mr mutaver

1059
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:25,679
chief you you mentioned uh this one

1060
01:19:25,679 --> 01:19:27,520
question i was gonna mention that money

1061
01:19:27,520 --> 01:19:29,199
the reimbursement receipt you're gonna

1062
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:30,640
receive from the school will turn back

1063
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:33,199
into hiring additional uh staffing so

1064
01:19:33,199 --> 01:19:34,960
that would be incremental as you are

1065
01:19:34,960 --> 01:19:37,360
putting stuff into the school district

1066
01:19:37,360 --> 01:19:38,800
you're going to use that reimbursement

1067
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,560
to hire additional staff or you are even

1068
01:19:40,560 --> 01:19:44,630
going to do that one time next year

1069
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:46,159
the additional

1070
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:48,320
fighter

1071
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,199
the

1072
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:53,040
we would put the more senior officers in

1073
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:54,960
the school and we would hire officers

1074
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:57,040
train them those officers that would

1075
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:59,360
then go on the street and staff our our

1076
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:01,920
streets are typically the lower paid

1077
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,000
ones until they get the seniority and

1078
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:05,679
they rise up step so

1079
01:20:05,679 --> 01:20:07,840
the uh the model that we have built out

1080
01:20:07,840 --> 01:20:10,000
which is that the that they're sharing

1081
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:11,600
the cost of the officer we're giving

1082
01:20:11,600 --> 01:20:12,960
them

1083
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:15,840
you know it covers a lot a large amount of the

1084
01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,440
cost of the officer that is replacing

1085
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,040
them with also that's why it's

1086
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,520
considered budget neutral this this year

1087
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:22,239
and

1088
01:20:22,239 --> 01:20:24,960
when you build it up maybe

1089
01:20:24,960 --> 01:20:26,239
10 years from now it's a different

1090
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:29,120
conversation but for right now

1091
01:20:29,120 --> 01:20:31,040
it's um you know

1092
01:20:31,040 --> 01:20:32,800
it it does it there's not a heavy lift

1093
01:20:32,800 --> 01:20:34,960
from the department from uh from finance

1094
01:20:34,960 --> 01:20:36,000
end

1095
01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:37,920
so the cost that you quoted here is the

1096
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,360
senior officer

1097
01:20:39,360 --> 01:20:41,040
pretty much yeah

1098
01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:42,080
yes

1099
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,600
and you also mentioned that you will be

1100
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:45,679
hiring senior officer into the school

1101
01:20:45,679 --> 01:20:46,960
district

1102
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:49,120
my one of my concerns is that um

1103
01:20:49,120 --> 01:20:51,040
when you can be hiring senior officer in

1104
01:20:51,040 --> 01:20:52,719
the contract it says

1105
01:20:52,719 --> 01:20:54,719
recommendation of the pba the mayor and

1106
01:20:54,719 --> 01:20:57,040
you i would also like to see the officer

1107
01:20:57,040 --> 01:21:00,800
who has experience dealing with youth

1108
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:02,320
you know several years over the course

1109
01:21:02,320 --> 01:21:05,520
of being a police department we consider

1110
01:21:05,520 --> 01:21:08,870
placement here

1111
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:11,120
yeah the the way our system works is

1112
01:21:11,120 --> 01:21:12,080
that

1113
01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:14,960
we have a seniority system with a police

1114
01:21:14,960 --> 01:21:17,520
department for for the control level so

1115
01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:20,400
when a job opens up we bid it for for

1116
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,960
senior and the senior bidder gets the

1117
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:24,880
opportunity to interview

1118
01:21:24,880 --> 01:21:25,760
so

1119
01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:26,880
um

1120
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:29,199
so through that process

1121
01:21:29,199 --> 01:21:30,800
we we find out who the most senior

1122
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:32,400
person is and then we take a look at

1123
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:34,400
them and interview them and if we don't

1124
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,560
feel that they're the right fit then we

1125
01:21:36,560 --> 01:21:38,320
move on to the next one you know we have

1126
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:40,560
that discussion and then we have the

1127
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,560
additional layer of sending them before

1128
01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:44,159
the school board

1129
01:21:44,159 --> 01:21:46,159
administration the school administration

1130
01:21:46,159 --> 01:21:47,040
to

1131
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:53,270
um for them to give approval also

1132
01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,360
so i'd like to follow up on that so um i

1133
01:21:55,360 --> 01:21:56,800
know that you said because i read here

1134
01:21:56,800 --> 01:21:58,159
that you do result in collective

1135
01:21:58,159 --> 01:22:00,159
bargaining which is clearly seniority

1136
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:03,120
etc but um are there instances or some

1137
01:22:03,120 --> 01:22:04,719
things that you do that are merit based

1138
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:05,840
positions

1139
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:09,440
um and because i share mr muda baron's

1140
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:12,800
um concern with that we want officers

1141
01:22:12,800 --> 01:22:14,239
who i mean it takes a certain amount of

1142
01:22:14,239 --> 01:22:15,600
temperament it takes a certain

1143
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,760
temperament to work with young people

1144
01:22:17,760 --> 01:22:21,199
on a day-to-day basis um so is there a

1145
01:22:21,199 --> 01:22:22,639
possibility that there can be a

1146
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:24,560
merit-based system so that officers are

1147
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:26,400
chosen as opposed to

1148
01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,679
um

1149
01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:29,360
just doing it by seniority because

1150
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,520
frankly looking at looking at it from

1151
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:34,080
eight to four is is a pretty nice shift

1152
01:22:34,080 --> 01:22:36,480
and in the schools so um and maybe i

1153
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,639
make it sound easier than it really is

1154
01:22:38,639 --> 01:22:40,400
but it's it's a shift that people may

1155
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:42,320
bid on words as opposed to being out in

1156
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,760
the street so

1157
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,000
um you know i go back to is is merit

1158
01:22:46,000 --> 01:22:48,639
based an opportunity for pete for um

1159
01:22:48,639 --> 01:22:50,320
this as opposed to

1160
01:22:50,320 --> 01:22:53,520
just based on seniority

1161
01:22:53,520 --> 01:22:55,520
we have some jobs in our department that

1162
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:58,159
are merit-based those were derived

1163
01:22:58,159 --> 01:22:59,040
through

1164
01:22:59,040 --> 01:23:01,679
the negotiation process with the pba

1165
01:23:01,679 --> 01:23:06,480
i think that before we um i'll refer to the mayor on this before

1166
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,400
we go too deep into that conversation it

1167
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:10,320
might be something more for

1168
01:23:10,320 --> 01:23:12,239
executive session to discuss

1169
01:23:12,239 --> 01:23:16,629
than do it publicly

1170
01:23:16,639 --> 01:23:18,560
i would agree with the chief even though

1171
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:21,210
the pba has been

1172
01:23:21,210 --> 01:23:23,199
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1173
01:23:23,199 --> 01:23:25,440
a partner in this in terms of discussion

1174
01:23:25,440 --> 01:23:28,560
trying to get the right people there

1175
01:23:28,560 --> 01:23:30,560
and you know you saw from the chart you

1176
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,760
have to understand we're putting police

1177
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,040
in the schools

1178
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:37,520
every day now

1179
01:23:37,520 --> 01:23:39,520
those are calls for service they aren't

1180
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:42,560
just stopping there randomly it's

1181
01:23:42,560 --> 01:23:44,880
somebody's dialing 9-1-1 reaching out to

1182
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:46,480
the police department we're sending a

1183
01:23:46,480 --> 01:23:47,520
car

1184
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:50,800
so this allows officers to be assigned

1185
01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:51,920
to

1186
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:54,159
the school district so they're building

1187
01:23:54,159 --> 01:23:56,000
a better rapport a more functional

1188
01:23:56,000 --> 01:23:58,719
knowledge of who the leadership is

1189
01:23:58,719 --> 01:23:59,760
within

1190
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,239
each individual building and then also

1191
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:05,040
rapport with the students

1192
01:24:05,040 --> 01:24:07,120
and i think it's a better way to respond

1193
01:24:07,120 --> 01:24:09,120
to those calls and you saw

1194
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,440
it's still preliminary data but we had

1195
01:24:11,440 --> 01:24:12,560
two

1196
01:24:12,560 --> 01:24:14,840
fairly active ones when the

1197
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:17,360
officers are assigned there you see that

1198
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:19,440
start to drop in the earlier months on

1199
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,199
that chart you have to remember covet is

1200
01:24:21,199 --> 01:24:25,040
there so that the baseline is skewed

1201
01:24:25,040 --> 01:24:26,000
but

1202
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:29,520
i think just going forward

1203
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,159
it's better to have these officers there

1204
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:34,239
than having somebody

1205
01:24:34,239 --> 01:24:36,719
who would be randomly dispatched there

1206
01:24:36,719 --> 01:24:39,120
based on the configuration that we use

1207
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,239
in the street

1208
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:42,560
where you can't always guarantee

1209
01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,440
the officer with the training

1210
01:24:45,440 --> 01:24:46,960
unique to the school is going to go

1211
01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,400
there

1212
01:24:48,400 --> 01:24:52,480
and it's an evolutionary model

1213
01:24:52,480 --> 01:24:54,239
it's

1214
01:24:54,239 --> 01:24:55,760
one that

1215
01:24:55,760 --> 01:24:58,400
i think is going to pay off

1216
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,639
good dividends it's part of the reform

1217
01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:01,840
package

1218
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,880
and the dialogue has been

1219
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:06,719
one that i'll call just dynamic so we're

1220
01:25:06,719 --> 01:25:08,480
looking at how do you do it better how

1221
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:10,320
do you engage

1222
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,400
students how do we better

1223
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:14,560
serve the public as a whole

1224
01:25:14,560 --> 01:25:16,400
and

1225
01:25:16,400 --> 01:25:18,800
if we can drop those calls down to zero

1226
01:25:18,800 --> 01:25:20,320
would be the ideal

1227
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:22,159
end game

1228
01:25:22,159 --> 01:25:24,480
but yes there are some components where

1229
01:25:24,480 --> 01:25:26,639
you get into an executive session

1230
01:25:26,639 --> 01:25:29,360
if the council would like to do that or

1231
01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:31,760
just follow up discussions

1232
01:25:31,760 --> 01:25:34,080
uh depending on what specific questions

1233
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:36,880
there are i do have oh sorry i haven't

1234
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:38,239
had further questions so currently you

1235
01:25:38,239 --> 01:25:40,560
have two officers in the schools yes

1236
01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:42,560
just two and were they chosen for

1237
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,960
through the collective bargaining system

1238
01:25:44,960 --> 01:25:46,880
they were the senior bidders

1239
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:48,880
so other people been but they were the

1240
01:25:48,880 --> 01:25:51,040
highest okay um

1241
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:53,679
and also when when we did the reform and

1242
01:25:53,679 --> 01:25:56,159
reinvention which this came out of that

1243
01:25:56,159 --> 01:25:57,920
were community engagement officers were

1244
01:25:57,920 --> 01:25:59,679
the was the intent for them to be in

1245
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:01,679
school was that the intent when we when

1246
01:26:01,679 --> 01:26:04,239
that piece of the legislation the plan

1247
01:26:04,239 --> 01:26:08,639
was passed no okay no um it was um it

1248
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:10,400
was part of the process of sitting down

1249
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:11,600
with the superintendent and his

1250
01:26:11,600 --> 01:26:13,840
leadership staff and we started talking

1251
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:15,840
about our reinforcement reinvention

1252
01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,920
collaborative and the idea behind the

1253
01:26:17,920 --> 01:26:20,000
community engagement officer and he

1254
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,080
really liked that idea that's why we

1255
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:23,360
chose the name rather than school

1256
01:26:23,360 --> 01:26:24,880
resource officer

1257
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:27,120
is that um you know we knew that we

1258
01:26:27,120 --> 01:26:29,760
wanted to engage more with the community

1259
01:26:29,760 --> 01:26:32,480
he knew that he wanted us there

1260
01:26:32,480 --> 01:26:34,880
for a variety of different reasons

1261
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,320
and we just felt that it it it really

1262
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:40,320
it wasn't exact fit but it was a fit

1263
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:41,199
there

1264
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:44,639
and and just to go back to the officers

1265
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:46,239
um and and

1266
01:26:46,239 --> 01:26:47,440
them getting the job through the

1267
01:26:47,440 --> 01:26:49,280
seniority process

1268
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,600
i like to tell i like to say that it's

1269
01:26:51,600 --> 01:26:54,320
my job it's chief whipple's job

1270
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:56,080
to make sure that every officer working

1271
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,239
for us is going to be

1272
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:00,320
regardless of how they get the job

1273
01:27:00,320 --> 01:27:01,600
appropriate to go into the police

1274
01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:03,760
department go into the schools like i

1275
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,520
don't want to just find that diamond in

1276
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:06,880
the rough police officer going to

1277
01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,560
schools i want every single one of my

1278
01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:10,960
officers that works the street to be

1279
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:12,719
acceptable to go into the schools and

1280
01:27:12,719 --> 01:27:14,320
that's what that's what we work for

1281
01:27:14,320 --> 01:27:20,149
every day

1282
01:27:20,159 --> 01:27:21,040
um

1283
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,719
in terms of the training that the

1284
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:24,719
officers um i believe that there's like

1285
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:26,400
a more comprehensive training that the

1286
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,960
safety team undergoes

1287
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,239
can you talk a little bit about that

1288
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:32,719
process in terms of some of the topics

1289
01:27:32,719 --> 01:27:35,280
and presenters that that meet with

1290
01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,400
the team

1291
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,159
um and do the training

1292
01:27:38,159 --> 01:27:39,360
i mean the training that's above and

1293
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:40,320
beyond

1294
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:42,639
you know the police training

1295
01:27:42,639 --> 01:27:44,000
um

1296
01:27:44,000 --> 01:27:46,320
i'm not i'm not very familiar with this

1297
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,000
sergeant might be i'll help out a little

1298
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:49,520
bit with it i know that there's an

1299
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,600
organization called nasro national

1300
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:54,239
association of resource officers it's a

1301
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:55,520
basic school

1302
01:27:55,520 --> 01:27:58,080
resource officer training we do plan on

1303
01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:59,840
sending our officers there to that

1304
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:00,960
training

1305
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,280
and i know that there's other training

1306
01:28:03,280 --> 01:28:05,199
that has been put on by the school

1307
01:28:05,199 --> 01:28:06,719
district and by the school safety

1308
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:08,800
director jeff russo that they've already

1309
01:28:08,800 --> 01:28:10,000
gone to

1310
01:28:10,000 --> 01:28:12,080
um and they're invited to

1311
01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,159
it was the therapeutic crisis

1312
01:28:14,159 --> 01:28:16,960
intervention um that was you know given

1313
01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:20,000
by their put on that their staff at the

1314
01:28:20,000 --> 01:28:22,400
district um

1315
01:28:22,400 --> 01:28:24,080
they take

1316
01:28:24,080 --> 01:28:26,239
we completed that with their school

1317
01:28:26,239 --> 01:28:27,840
psychologists

1318
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,679
one of the school counselors and

1319
01:28:29,679 --> 01:28:34,149
a master social worker

1320
01:28:34,159 --> 01:28:37,360
and i have another question thank you um

1321
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:39,830
the other

1322
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:41,440
i have a concern that this that the

1323
01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:43,520
officers have to float among the schools

1324
01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,199
as opposed to

1325
01:28:45,199 --> 01:28:46,800
officers that might be

1326
01:28:46,800 --> 01:28:49,440
assigned to specific schools and i guess

1327
01:28:49,440 --> 01:28:50,800
again um

1328
01:28:50,800 --> 01:28:52,560
you know have you found that challenging

1329
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,960
that you have to be in many different

1330
01:28:54,960 --> 01:28:58,400
places on any on any given given day

1331
01:28:58,400 --> 01:29:00,080
can you join us up here sorry it looks

1332
01:29:00,080 --> 01:29:01,199
like it's going to be a few questions

1333
01:29:01,199 --> 01:29:02,000
for you

1334
01:29:02,000 --> 01:29:04,159
because then you'll be on the camera the

1335
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:07,430
public seats

1336
01:29:07,440 --> 01:29:09,360
yeah and that's what you know the pilot

1337
01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:11,679
program right you know with two officers

1338
01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:14,159
and in 17 different schools

1339
01:29:14,159 --> 01:29:16,800
uh you know made for some busy days you

1340
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:19,040
know addressing the needs at the

1341
01:29:19,040 --> 01:29:20,719
different campuses

1342
01:29:20,719 --> 01:29:22,960
but you know that's what that's what

1343
01:29:22,960 --> 01:29:25,280
we've been tasked with and i think

1344
01:29:25,280 --> 01:29:26,080
that's

1345
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:27,440
you know collectively the school

1346
01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:29,600
district you know saw the need for

1347
01:29:29,600 --> 01:29:32,960
additional um offices to handle that

1348
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,800
workload

1349
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:35,840
so

1350
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:36,960
you know

1351
01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:39,040
that's how we're handling it now and you

1352
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:40,719
know there's some emergencies that you

1353
01:29:40,719 --> 01:29:42,719
know if i was tied up

1354
01:29:42,719 --> 01:29:52,310
you know i had to supplement i swear patrol

1355
01:29:52,320 --> 01:29:54,560
so i had a question uh pretty simply

1356
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,560
just how is success going to be measured

1357
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:59,199
i know that we are answering this at a

1358
01:29:59,199 --> 01:30:00,800
point in time as you highlighted in the

1359
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:02,719
presentation where there's a lot of

1360
01:30:02,719 --> 01:30:03,920
incidents that are happening in the

1361
01:30:03,920 --> 01:30:06,080
school can you just identify some of the

1362
01:30:06,080 --> 01:30:07,520
metrics that you're going to look at to

1363
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:08,880
be able to gauge

1364
01:30:08,880 --> 01:30:10,080
whether this

1365
01:30:10,080 --> 01:30:12,320
program is improving or

1366
01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,400
not making any substantial benefits to

1367
01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:15,199
those

1368
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:16,480
histories

1369
01:30:16,480 --> 01:30:19,440
sure sure so

1370
01:30:19,440 --> 01:30:20,719
we're going to measure this program like

1371
01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:23,040
we do uh you know

1372
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:24,480
how we measure ourselves on a daily

1373
01:30:24,480 --> 01:30:26,000
basis um

1374
01:30:26,000 --> 01:30:27,120
you know we're going to look at calls

1375
01:30:27,120 --> 01:30:29,040
for service that are generated we're

1376
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,639
going to look at the number of major

1377
01:30:30,639 --> 01:30:32,400
incidents that are happening where we

1378
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,480
are needed there

1379
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:37,920
and we're you know we're going to just

1380
01:30:37,920 --> 01:30:39,520
speak with the administration about

1381
01:30:39,520 --> 01:30:42,000
conducting surveys getting feedback at

1382
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:44,000
the end of the school year i'm hearing

1383
01:30:44,000 --> 01:30:46,080
from the school community their thoughts

1384
01:30:46,080 --> 01:30:48,560
they're getting feedback um

1385
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:50,159
but quite generally

1386
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:53,040
um you know the the absence of major

1387
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:54,639
issues in the school is really going to

1388
01:30:54,639 --> 01:30:55,920
speak volumes and that's what we're

1389
01:30:55,920 --> 01:30:57,520
really aiming for

1390
01:30:57,520 --> 01:30:58,880
we're in the business to put ourselves

1391
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:00,719
out of business we get to a point where

1392
01:31:00,719 --> 01:31:03,280
there's no issues and and uh the

1393
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:04,960
empowerment is there for the school to

1394
01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:06,880
police themselves through school

1395
01:31:06,880 --> 01:31:09,360
schools security monitors you know i'd

1396
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:11,199
be happy just to leave just as fast as

1397
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:13,360
we're coming in there um so we're there

1398
01:31:13,360 --> 01:31:14,719
for a reason

1399
01:31:14,719 --> 01:31:16,960
and um you know who knows if it will be

1400
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,880
a short-term thing or a long-term thing

1401
01:31:18,880 --> 01:31:21,360
but you know we want to make sure that

1402
01:31:21,360 --> 01:31:23,440
it's a safe learning environment for

1403
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:24,719
everybody

1404
01:31:24,719 --> 01:31:27,920
and that's that's primarily our focus

1405
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:30,320
and then a follow-up uh question to that

1406
01:31:30,320 --> 01:31:33,280
is um based on your answer uh if the

1407
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:36,159
priority is safety uh and then the

1408
01:31:36,159 --> 01:31:38,239
additional areas that were highlighted

1409
01:31:38,239 --> 01:31:39,520
in the

1410
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,360
legislative reform to include like

1411
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:48,470
educators and then also

1412
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,960
to include educators and also making

1413
01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:53,199
sure that the environment is safe and

1414
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:56,239
improving relationships um

1415
01:31:56,239 --> 01:31:58,080
i think if the onus has placed too

1416
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:00,639
heavily on the safety element

1417
01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:03,440
my question then is how is a community

1418
01:32:03,440 --> 01:32:04,800
engagement officer different than a

1419
01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:08,310
police officer that's in a school

1420
01:32:08,320 --> 01:32:10,719
i was different than a police officer

1421
01:32:10,719 --> 01:32:12,560
if more of the illness is placed on

1422
01:32:12,560 --> 01:32:14,400
safety absent making sure that they're

1423
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,400
taking the appropriate steps to build

1424
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,960
those relationships and apply that

1425
01:32:18,960 --> 01:32:20,400
community health initiative training

1426
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,960
that they we're trained to use uh if

1427
01:32:22,960 --> 01:32:24,960
we're not creating that also i think

1428
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:26,560
that that can be very much a missed

1429
01:32:26,560 --> 01:32:29,910
opportunity

1430
01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,550
well

1431
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,320
if i think i understand your question

1432
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,480
right i'll answer it this way that you

1433
01:32:36,480 --> 01:32:38,320
know on a daily basis when police

1434
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:40,639
officers are out in the community

1435
01:32:40,639 --> 01:32:45,120
working we are there empowering the community

1436
01:32:45,120 --> 01:32:47,040
to police themselves

1437
01:32:47,040 --> 01:32:50,400
um and we are simply the uh the agents

1438
01:32:50,400 --> 01:32:53,440
of the of the society

1439
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:57,199
to to have the ability to enforce laws

1440
01:32:57,199 --> 01:32:58,400
if needed

1441
01:32:58,400 --> 01:33:00,639
and and i would see that we are working

1442
01:33:00,639 --> 01:33:02,080
the same way in the school district we

1443
01:33:02,080 --> 01:33:04,239
are simply there we have the ability to

1444
01:33:04,239 --> 01:33:06,480
act if needed but we don't want to act

1445
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:09,120
we want to empower the school safety

1446
01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:10,239
officers

1447
01:33:10,239 --> 01:33:12,480
the staff we want to have our presence

1448
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:15,199
there be of such that everybody just

1449
01:33:15,199 --> 01:33:16,480
does what they're supposed to do and

1450
01:33:16,480 --> 01:33:19,760
there's no no threat from the outside of people

1451
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:21,199
coming in there thinking that they can

1452
01:33:21,199 --> 01:33:23,280
come in and assault a student

1453
01:33:23,280 --> 01:33:24,960
because their children had a

1454
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:26,239
disagreement

1455
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:27,840
the day before

1456
01:33:27,840 --> 01:33:29,520
we don't want one student to feel that

1457
01:33:29,520 --> 01:33:31,040
they can attack another student and get

1458
01:33:31,040 --> 01:33:33,040
away with it we don't want students feel

1459
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:34,400
that they can bring weapons into the

1460
01:33:34,400 --> 01:33:36,719
schools and get away with it so we just

1461
01:33:36,719 --> 01:33:39,360
simply want our presence that's there to

1462
01:33:39,360 --> 01:33:41,280
be the deterrent

1463
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:43,120
at the same time

1464
01:33:43,120 --> 01:33:44,480
while we're there we're taking the

1465
01:33:44,480 --> 01:33:46,239
opportunity to be educators to be

1466
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:48,239
counselors to have to let the students

1467
01:33:48,239 --> 01:33:49,600
have access

1468
01:33:49,600 --> 01:33:51,120
to the police

1469
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:55,910
to meet their needs if they have any

1470
01:33:55,920 --> 01:33:58,800
thank you and would you be opposed to uh

1471
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:01,440
if the council should decide

1472
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:03,679
i know you mentioned doing annual

1473
01:34:03,679 --> 01:34:05,840
feedback surveys with the staff and the

1474
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:08,159
students i think it's our responsibility

1475
01:34:08,159 --> 01:34:09,760
as a council to make sure that we're

1476
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:11,840
acting representative of the community's

1477
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,080
interests to potentially provide us just

1478
01:34:14,080 --> 01:34:16,960
a report and an x amount of months

1479
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:19,600
should we approve that to just gauge how

1480
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:22,239
well that this program is functioning

1481
01:34:22,239 --> 01:34:24,159
i would not be opposed to that i i plan

1482
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:25,520
on speaking the superintendent about

1483
01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:27,120
that anyways

1484
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:30,320
thank you thank you uh it's perfect so i

1485
01:34:30,320 --> 01:34:31,920
think i think when you said that you

1486
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:34,000
were going to um for your evaluation

1487
01:34:34,000 --> 01:34:36,159
process it was going to be the school

1488
01:34:36,159 --> 01:34:38,000
staff you didn't mention students so i'd

1489
01:34:38,000 --> 01:34:39,920
like to know would students be including

1490
01:34:39,920 --> 01:34:42,239
that and were students included in this

1491
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:43,600
whole discussion

1492
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:44,480
um

1493
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:46,560
you know in terms of um i know that well

1494
01:34:46,560 --> 01:34:47,920
anyway we're students i'll let you

1495
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,840
answer we're students included in this

1496
01:34:49,840 --> 01:34:50,960
discussion

1497
01:34:50,960 --> 01:34:52,880
in terms of um the community engagement

1498
01:34:52,880 --> 01:34:54,480
officers in school was there any kind of

1499
01:34:54,480 --> 01:34:56,400
focus group among the students

1500
01:34:56,400 --> 01:34:57,920
not by the police department but i

1501
01:34:57,920 --> 01:34:59,520
believe there was done by the school

1502
01:34:59,520 --> 01:35:01,280
superintendent

1503
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,760
and um and and that was just a mistake i

1504
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:05,360
would definitely want to get their input

1505
01:35:05,360 --> 01:35:06,719
at the end of the school year like what

1506
01:35:06,719 --> 01:35:08,960
are your thoughts behind it get get

1507
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:12,840
ideas from them on the program

1508
01:35:12,840 --> 01:35:15,520
okay and i did have a question about the

1509
01:35:15,520 --> 01:35:18,239
um the training the nasro

1510
01:35:18,239 --> 01:35:21,119
but that is specifically training just

1511
01:35:21,119 --> 01:35:24,880
for police officers right it's not it's not

1512
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,800
well what is it just specific like if

1513
01:35:26,800 --> 01:35:28,239
you're going to police in the streets or

1514
01:35:28,239 --> 01:35:31,119
does it include um police officers being

1515
01:35:31,119 --> 01:35:33,199
in schools

1516
01:35:33,199 --> 01:35:34,080
i believe

1517
01:35:34,080 --> 01:35:36,080
specifically for

1518
01:35:36,080 --> 01:35:38,320
school resource officers that's that

1519
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,159
specific training all right is there a

1520
01:35:40,159 --> 01:35:41,840
breakdown somewhere of what actually i

1521
01:35:41,840 --> 01:35:44,000
know that you meant you spoke it of what

1522
01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:45,199
happens in that training and you don't

1523
01:35:45,199 --> 01:35:47,040
have to have it right here right now but

1524
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:48,880
um if we have that

1525
01:35:48,880 --> 01:35:50,239
yeah

1526
01:35:50,239 --> 01:35:51,119
this

1527
01:35:51,119 --> 01:35:54,320
is certainly available

1528
01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:55,840
i believe it's available they have a

1529
01:35:55,840 --> 01:35:59,990
website yes

1530
01:36:00,000 --> 01:36:01,920
it's a model that the you know police

1531
01:36:01,920 --> 01:36:04,239
officer has an informal counselor like

1532
01:36:04,239 --> 01:36:07,280
he said a role model um and that's

1533
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:10,000
what's important for me is you know i

1534
01:36:10,000 --> 01:36:11,679
didn't know any police officers growing

1535
01:36:11,679 --> 01:36:14,320
up and i think it's important that you

1536
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,520
know

1537
01:36:15,520 --> 01:36:17,440
uh you see

1538
01:36:17,440 --> 01:36:19,199
you know officers that look like them

1539
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:19,920
that

1540
01:36:19,920 --> 01:36:21,840
you know come from neighborhoods similar

1541
01:36:21,840 --> 01:36:23,520
to theirs etc

1542
01:36:23,520 --> 01:36:24,880
so

1543
01:36:24,880 --> 01:36:27,280
you know i think it's an opportunity

1544
01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:29,280
i know you talk about success but in

1545
01:36:29,280 --> 01:36:31,920
terms of recruitment you know years ago

1546
01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:33,760
i was tasked with recruitment and i

1547
01:36:33,760 --> 01:36:35,840
think it's you know

1548
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,760
being a role model for

1549
01:36:37,760 --> 01:36:40,960
our youth to be the difference that they want to

1550
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:45,430
see

1551
01:36:45,440 --> 01:36:46,560
oh i'm sorry

1552
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:48,560
if i can just add something thank you

1553
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:50,400
i was in some of the conversations

1554
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:52,960
related to this agreement and the

1555
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:54,880
question didn't come up related to

1556
01:36:54,880 --> 01:36:56,480
what this quarter field brought up

1557
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:58,080
related to nazareth

1558
01:36:58,080 --> 01:36:59,440
the school district indicated that's the

1559
01:36:59,440 --> 01:37:01,679
gold standard for training

1560
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:03,920
um there's it's obviously the national

1561
01:37:03,920 --> 01:37:05,679
association there's a

1562
01:37:05,679 --> 01:37:07,840
state version which actually doesn't

1563
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:08,960
meet

1564
01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:10,480
according to the school district the

1565
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,280
same criteria that the national um

1566
01:37:13,280 --> 01:37:15,199
training provides

1567
01:37:15,199 --> 01:37:17,040
and as was indicated there is

1568
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:19,360
information related to it and i have it

1569
01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:20,960
available to me too so i can certainly

1570
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,870
pass that well

1571
01:37:24,880 --> 01:37:27,189
um

1572
01:37:27,199 --> 01:37:29,679
yeah justin follow-up is border phila

1573
01:37:29,679 --> 01:37:30,560
question

1574
01:37:30,560 --> 01:37:32,400
community engagement officer when we

1575
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,119
passed the police reform and reinvention

1576
01:37:35,119 --> 01:37:38,080
this would primarily target towards the

1577
01:37:38,080 --> 01:37:40,080
community and now we're hiring these

1578
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:42,000
officers to compliment what is going on

1579
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:43,840
with the school district

1580
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:45,600
are you going to be hiring additional

1581
01:37:45,600 --> 01:37:48,239
officers to go out into the community

1582
01:37:48,239 --> 01:37:50,239
and be part of this also

1583
01:37:50,239 --> 01:37:53,280
and do you have a target date for that

1584
01:37:53,280 --> 01:37:55,520
yeah the the um

1585
01:37:55,520 --> 01:37:56,880
the program that we have in the

1586
01:37:56,880 --> 01:37:59,040
recommendations uh we have every

1587
01:37:59,040 --> 01:38:01,280
intention of building that out we just

1588
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:03,360
haven't gotten

1589
01:38:03,360 --> 01:38:05,040
we're not there yet

1590
01:38:05,040 --> 01:38:07,360
we are putting the training we're

1591
01:38:07,360 --> 01:38:09,199
implementing the training that we

1592
01:38:09,199 --> 01:38:11,360
discussed for those officers already

1593
01:38:11,360 --> 01:38:12,960
that's being built up

1594
01:38:12,960 --> 01:38:15,360
but uh that's that's still in the works

1595
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,600
and i will be updating our collaborative

1596
01:38:17,600 --> 01:38:20,320
on where we're at with that next week

1597
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:22,560
um you know or coming soon

1598
01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:24,080
and um but

1599
01:38:24,080 --> 01:38:26,239
we we originally applied for a cops

1600
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:27,920
grant to be able to build that program

1601
01:38:27,920 --> 01:38:29,920
out we're not successful we're going to

1602
01:38:29,920 --> 01:38:32,480
try again next year so that's the whole

1603
01:38:32,480 --> 01:38:34,960
as far as that program goes a lot how

1604
01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:37,679
does it meet those needs

1605
01:38:37,679 --> 01:38:38,960
would it be safe to say that the

1606
01:38:38,960 --> 01:38:40,159
reinforcement we're going to receive

1607
01:38:40,159 --> 01:38:41,600
from the school will turn that into

1608
01:38:41,600 --> 01:38:44,080
hiring additional staff that can be able

1609
01:38:44,080 --> 01:38:47,760
to be community engagement officer that can be

1610
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:49,600
found within the community

1611
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,199
as a reimbursement rather than putting

1612
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:52,960
that money into

1613
01:38:52,960 --> 01:38:54,960
something else

1614
01:38:54,960 --> 01:38:55,920
talk about

1615
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:58,719
whether they're remorseful

1616
01:38:58,719 --> 01:39:00,239
well they should just cover the six that

1617
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:01,440
we're going to be

1618
01:39:01,440 --> 01:39:03,840
that we will be bringing on

1619
01:39:03,840 --> 01:39:05,920
for them

1620
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:07,199
yeah but regardless we're going to hire

1621
01:39:07,199 --> 01:39:08,639
these officers

1622
01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:10,159
so those are reinforcements that we need

1623
01:39:10,159 --> 01:39:13,199
to just return that back into something

1624
01:39:13,199 --> 01:39:15,760
additional officer six more officer with

1625
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:17,199
that reimbursement that we're getting

1626
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:19,040
from the school

1627
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:20,639
the right person from the school if the

1628
01:39:20,639 --> 01:39:22,480
council chooses to

1629
01:39:22,480 --> 01:39:24,880
put more money in the budget but that's

1630
01:39:24,880 --> 01:39:27,760
right now the department is lower

1631
01:39:27,760 --> 01:39:29,360
staffing level with what i would prefer

1632
01:39:29,360 --> 01:39:31,119
what the chief would prefer

1633
01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:32,880
so it's the

1634
01:39:32,880 --> 01:39:34,080
over the next

1635
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:36,000
12 24 months

1636
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,320
try and work that back up

1637
01:39:38,320 --> 01:39:39,440
to

1638
01:39:39,440 --> 01:39:41,440
what we consider an adequate staffing

1639
01:39:41,440 --> 01:39:42,800
level

1640
01:39:42,800 --> 01:39:45,280
and part of that charge is to have those

1641
01:39:45,280 --> 01:39:47,840
community engagement officers

1642
01:39:47,840 --> 01:39:50,800
not only his specific assignments but

1643
01:39:50,800 --> 01:39:53,119
every officer that's out on patrols the

1644
01:39:53,119 --> 01:39:55,679
chief talks about being able to

1645
01:39:55,679 --> 01:39:57,840
handle whatever the call comes up

1646
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:02,629
it's the nature of the department where

1647
01:40:02,639 --> 01:40:04,719
some officers end up with a little area

1648
01:40:04,719 --> 01:40:07,440
of specialty one way or the other by the

1649
01:40:07,440 --> 01:40:09,920
luck of the draw some of the cases that

1650
01:40:09,920 --> 01:40:11,920
they end up being assigned or calls they

1651
01:40:11,920 --> 01:40:12,880
go to

1652
01:40:12,880 --> 01:40:15,280
or their natural proclivity or

1653
01:40:15,280 --> 01:40:17,679
educational background where they have

1654
01:40:17,679 --> 01:40:20,400
a little bit different

1655
01:40:20,400 --> 01:40:22,400
skill set that is more applicable to

1656
01:40:22,400 --> 01:40:24,159
some of these but it's that make sure

1657
01:40:24,159 --> 01:40:25,360
that everybody

1658
01:40:25,360 --> 01:40:27,679
has the level that's able to serve the

1659
01:40:27,679 --> 01:40:31,119
needs of the people when they get

1660
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:33,440
the calls and then hopefully as the

1661
01:40:33,440 --> 01:40:36,159
calls go down

1662
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:38,159
that you can do more of the community

1663
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:40,239
engagement so that you're talking to

1664
01:40:40,239 --> 01:40:41,679
people

1665
01:40:41,679 --> 01:40:44,159
you're walking the beat you're having

1666
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:46,480
more of the deterrent effect

1667
01:40:46,480 --> 01:40:50,400
and just a smoother engagement

1668
01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:54,790
with the public as a whole

1669
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:56,480
yeah my concern is that we don't want to

1670
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:57,760
just leave behind you know i'm not

1671
01:40:57,760 --> 01:40:58,960
saying you can leave it you're doing it

1672
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:00,719
it's a good program that we're spreading

1673
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:02,880
in school and community but i'll make

1674
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:04,960
sure that we are addressing

1675
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:07,760
the police reform that was intended for

1676
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:09,360
to have these officers into the

1677
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:12,400
community also at the same time

1678
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:13,360
they will

1679
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:16,639
follow the school and that's the goal

1680
01:41:16,639 --> 01:41:18,239
as you know it's always trying to get

1681
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:19,920
the budget

1682
01:41:19,920 --> 01:41:23,669
i have to mention it

1683
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:25,520
well i just want to clarify

1684
01:41:25,520 --> 01:41:28,080
i and tell me if i'm wrong but i thought

1685
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:30,719
in our 2022 budget

1686
01:41:30,719 --> 01:41:33,199
which we had the report already

1687
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:35,199
with the recommendations i thought we

1688
01:41:35,199 --> 01:41:37,679
actually already had included money in

1689
01:41:37,679 --> 01:41:39,199
this budget for

1690
01:41:39,199 --> 01:41:41,840
community engagement officers

1691
01:41:41,840 --> 01:41:44,159
and that this is a new program so this

1692
01:41:44,159 --> 01:41:46,800
is new money on top of what we already

1693
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:49,280
put into the budget for

1694
01:41:49,280 --> 01:41:51,280
adding community engagement officers but

1695
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:53,520
i could be wrong but that was my memory

1696
01:41:53,520 --> 01:41:54,880
of this it's

1697
01:41:54,880 --> 01:41:57,280
also the nature of hiring the police

1698
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:58,159
we're

1699
01:41:58,159 --> 01:41:59,440
told

1700
01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:01,840
to pass the civil service test

1701
01:42:01,840 --> 01:42:03,920
be able to be hired

1702
01:42:03,920 --> 01:42:06,400
we have to send them to training right

1703
01:42:06,400 --> 01:42:07,600
so

1704
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,840
basically an officer

1705
01:42:09,840 --> 01:42:11,270
that first year

1706
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:12,800
[Music]

1707
01:42:12,800 --> 01:42:15,600
can't be used and so it's been

1708
01:42:15,600 --> 01:42:17,280
filling those positions that are in the

1709
01:42:17,280 --> 01:42:18,639
budget

1710
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:20,639
and to maintain the level of staffing so

1711
01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:21,180
this is

1712
01:42:21,180 --> 01:42:23,280
[Music]

1713
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:24,030
a

1714
01:42:24,030 --> 01:42:25,440
[Music]

1715
01:42:25,440 --> 01:42:28,080
position i think works for everybody's

1716
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:29,119
benefit

1717
01:42:29,119 --> 01:42:30,880
even though it might not be considered

1718
01:42:30,880 --> 01:42:36,310
to be perfect

1719
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:37,440
oh

1720
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:40,400
yeah so i i just i would like um and i i

1721
01:42:40,400 --> 01:42:42,639
it seems like we can't discuss it openly

1722
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:44,800
but i really would like to discuss

1723
01:42:44,800 --> 01:42:47,280
um the mayor of base as opposed to just

1724
01:42:47,280 --> 01:42:49,440
by seniority i think that's that's an

1725
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:51,440
important you know as we know people

1726
01:42:51,440 --> 01:42:52,800
have different ideas about what should

1727
01:42:52,800 --> 01:42:53,920
and shouldn't have in schools but i

1728
01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,719
think it's extremely important that um

1729
01:42:56,719 --> 01:42:59,920
we're placing um officers in schools who

1730
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:02,320
you know you know we want to look at

1731
01:43:02,320 --> 01:43:03,679
just everything and make sure that it

1732
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:05,440
makes sense if this is what this is

1733
01:43:05,440 --> 01:43:07,199
what's going to happen um that there

1734
01:43:07,199 --> 01:43:09,280
should be a vetting process and

1735
01:43:09,280 --> 01:43:12,159
not just the standard

1736
01:43:12,159 --> 01:43:14,080
seniority process

1737
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:15,760
so i would like to have more discussion

1738
01:43:15,760 --> 01:43:18,159
about that mr toro

1739
01:43:18,159 --> 01:43:19,920
i thought i was under the impression

1740
01:43:19,920 --> 01:43:21,280
that

1741
01:43:21,280 --> 01:43:22,960
you would interview them and then the

1742
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:25,199
school board as well

1743
01:43:25,199 --> 01:43:27,280
would interview the candidates for the

1744
01:43:27,280 --> 01:43:29,600
positions in the school correct that's

1745
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,159
correct we do interview them however you

1746
01:43:32,159 --> 01:43:33,040
know

1747
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,960
that interview isn't necessarily to

1748
01:43:34,960 --> 01:43:37,520
select them as much as to interview them

1749
01:43:37,520 --> 01:43:43,360
to potentially exclude them because the job is big it's theirs and then we

1750
01:43:43,360 --> 01:43:45,040
interview them for the right fit if you

1751
01:43:45,040 --> 01:43:46,960
feel they're not the right fit then we

1752
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:48,159
speak to them and said you're not the

1753
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:49,440
right fit

1754
01:43:49,440 --> 01:43:51,679
and we and then when you who feels the

1755
01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:52,800
right fit

1756
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,320
would go on to

1757
01:43:54,320 --> 01:43:55,199
um

1758
01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:56,639
be interviewed by the school board to

1759
01:43:56,639 --> 01:43:58,560
make sure they're right fit as well

1760
01:43:58,560 --> 01:44:00,880
correct okay my intention will be to

1761
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:02,400
present an officer to the school board

1762
01:44:02,400 --> 01:44:03,199
that

1763
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:04,719
i'm confident that they're going to be

1764
01:44:04,719 --> 01:44:06,000
fine

1765
01:44:06,000 --> 01:44:07,600
but that process is different than the

1766
01:44:07,600 --> 01:44:10,480
merit-based it's still by seniority

1767
01:44:10,480 --> 01:44:12,159
so that's why i really wanted to discuss

1768
01:44:12,159 --> 01:44:15,669
that

1769
01:44:15,679 --> 01:44:18,719
okay so i'm in agreement with um just

1770
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:20,480
causing this conversation until we're

1771
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:22,159
able to pick this back up an executive

1772
01:44:22,159 --> 01:44:23,119
session

1773
01:44:23,119 --> 01:44:25,600
uh so pending any further questions no

1774
01:44:25,600 --> 01:44:27,040
you'll have to move into executive

1775
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:29,199
session but we have to hold this in the

1776
01:44:29,199 --> 01:44:32,629
data session

1777
01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:35,520
now we just need to recess

1778
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,600
yeah if you're going to continue

1779
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:39,830
yes

1780
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:42,149
right

1781
01:44:42,159 --> 01:44:43,040
second

1782
01:44:43,040 --> 01:44:44,400
favorite

1783
01:44:44,400 --> 01:44:45,600
all right

1784
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,679
unless there are any other topics for

1785
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:49,520
before the committee uh can i get a

1786
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,520
motion to adjourn normally

1787
01:44:51,520 --> 01:44:55,270
no we just resign

1788
01:44:55,280 --> 01:44:57,760
we'll pick it up

1789
01:44:57,760 --> 01:45:01,109
i would like to call

1790
01:45:01,119 --> 01:45:03,119
and this is a foreign reminder that

1791
01:45:03,119 --> 01:45:06,400
calling for public hearing uh cdbg cv

1792
01:45:06,400 --> 01:45:09,199
funding to prevent prepare for

1793
01:45:09,199 --> 01:45:11,520
and respond for carolina virus and this

1794
01:45:11,520 --> 01:45:14,239
is on april 25th

1795
01:45:14,239 --> 01:45:16,719
and the second item is also a reminder

1796
01:45:16,719 --> 01:45:18,639
for public hearing proposed annual

1797
01:45:18,639 --> 01:45:20,159
action plan

1798
01:45:20,159 --> 01:45:23,280
public hearing april 25th if there's

1799
01:45:23,280 --> 01:45:25,119
nothing else before finance i ask for a

1800
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:27,440
motion to adjourn

1801
01:45:27,440 --> 01:45:29,199
second second

1802
01:45:29,199 --> 01:45:30,880
all in favor all right all right thank

1803
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:31,840
you

1804
01:45:31,840 --> 01:45:33,199
i'd like to call the order city

1805
01:45:33,199 --> 01:45:34,880
development and planning we have 13

1806
01:45:34,880 --> 01:45:36,800
items on the agenda

1807
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,460
um i don't see mr walling

1808
01:45:38,460 --> 01:45:39,920
[Music]

1809
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:41,600
here

1810
01:45:41,600 --> 01:45:44,159
on his way down okay

1811
01:45:44,159 --> 01:45:45,440
he should be coming through the door any

1812
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:47,440
minute our first item is to authorize

1813
01:45:47,440 --> 01:45:50,159
the issue issuance of a revocable permit

1814
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:53,360
number 668 suganesh hospitality for a

1815
01:45:53,360 --> 01:45:55,040
sign that will overhang the cities right

1816
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:59,040
away at 759 state street

1817
01:45:59,040 --> 01:46:03,040
i think that's detailed in the it is

1818
01:46:03,040 --> 01:46:04,400
what they call it the standard

1819
01:46:04,400 --> 01:46:07,199
application but ask the council's

1820
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:10,830
favorable consideration until

1821
01:46:10,840 --> 01:46:13,360
mr i want to give the impression we get

1822
01:46:13,360 --> 01:46:15,440
by without them but we could

1823
01:46:15,440 --> 01:46:19,520
probably handle this one here's the sign

1824
01:46:19,520 --> 01:46:20,960
does everyone have an opportunity to

1825
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:22,080
actually look at the information

1826
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:25,040
provided in their packet

1827
01:46:25,040 --> 01:46:29,590
yes and so are there any questions

1828
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,360
if not i can stand in motion i'll move

1829
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:32,480
it

1830
01:46:32,480 --> 01:46:35,280
second all right all those in favor fine

1831
01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:38,080
okay um number two to authorize the

1832
01:46:38,080 --> 01:46:40,960
mayor or his designated agreement with

1833
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:43,360
the new york state department of state

1834
01:46:43,360 --> 01:46:45,600
for the downtown the downtown uh city's

1835
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:47,360
downtown reinvest revitalization

1836
01:46:47,360 --> 01:46:49,760
initiative program contract number

1837
01:46:49,760 --> 01:46:52,480
c1001884

1838
01:46:52,480 --> 01:46:55,280
are you taking this one too man

1839
01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:56,110
this is

1840
01:46:56,110 --> 01:46:57,679
[Music]

1841
01:46:57,679 --> 01:46:59,760
part of the uh

1842
01:46:59,760 --> 01:47:06,800
dri award and it's government so there's a little bit

1843
01:47:06,800 --> 01:47:09,040
of paperwork

1844
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:11,440
and uh

1845
01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:15,669
looking for you to move forward on this

1846
01:47:15,679 --> 01:47:16,800
but this is

1847
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,040
the master contractor thing

1848
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:31,030
it's it's right here

1849
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:39,990
the delay is a little longer

1850
01:47:40,000 --> 01:47:42,400
so we're talking about dri contract

1851
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,520
number 84. that is correct all right so

1852
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,119
what are the questions with contract

1853
01:47:47,119 --> 01:47:50,560
number 84 are there any at this moment

1854
01:47:50,560 --> 01:47:53,910
anyone have any questions

1855
01:47:53,920 --> 01:47:56,719
okay state of motion so moved

1856
01:47:56,719 --> 01:47:59,520
second always in favor hi all right item

1857
01:47:59,520 --> 01:48:01,119
number three authorize the mayor or his

1858
01:48:01,119 --> 01:48:02,960
destiny to intervene with the new york

1859
01:48:02,960 --> 01:48:04,800
state department of state for the city's

1860
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:06,800
downtown utilization initiative program

1861
01:48:06,800 --> 01:48:11,119
contract number one zero zero one eight five so this is

1862
01:48:11,119 --> 01:48:12,800
i can't remember which one is which off

1863
01:48:12,800 --> 01:48:14,560
the top of my head i think it's 85

1864
01:48:14,560 --> 01:48:16,500
broadway and clinton

1865
01:48:16,500 --> 01:48:30,709
[Music]

1866
01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:32,880
decorative lights on broadway and

1867
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,560
clinton where we don't have them to kind

1868
01:48:34,560 --> 01:48:36,880
of match what we're doing downtown um

1869
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,480
it's the reason that you don't see us

1870
01:48:38,480 --> 01:48:40,159
paving broadway right now with the

1871
01:48:40,159 --> 01:48:41,360
national grid cuts because we're going

1872
01:48:41,360 --> 01:48:42,960
to be coming in there others dri and

1873
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:44,719
doing the same thing so we're going to

1874
01:48:44,719 --> 01:48:46,960
do it all at once get the trenching done

1875
01:48:46,960 --> 01:48:49,600
get in there and put the lights in so

1876
01:48:49,600 --> 01:48:52,159
uh it's a good project this is step one

1877
01:48:52,159 --> 01:48:52,880
of

1878
01:48:52,880 --> 01:48:54,320
many steps

1879
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:56,639
so you know this is going to be a long

1880
01:48:56,639 --> 01:48:58,719
process getting everything done but once

1881
01:48:58,719 --> 01:49:00,400
we get these contracts

1882
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:02,800
passed signed authorized out to them

1883
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:04,880
we'll start working on our request for

1884
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:06,960
proposals to actually get designed and

1885
01:49:06,960 --> 01:49:08,400
then that will have to go to the state

1886
01:49:08,400 --> 01:49:09,760
so

1887
01:49:09,760 --> 01:49:11,119
do you know the cost of the project

1888
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:15,520
overall for the lighting the work the budget is

1889
01:49:15,520 --> 01:49:17,199
eight years roughly around eight hundred

1890
01:49:17,199 --> 01:49:19,760
thousand dollars

1891
01:49:19,760 --> 01:49:22,480
oh wow okay yeah the other project the

1892
01:49:22,480 --> 01:49:24,320
budget for those is is you know total

1893
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,639
projects two million but

1894
01:49:26,639 --> 01:49:28,560
we're a little over that butt up

1895
01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:29,840
we're probably gonna need to supplement

1896
01:49:29,840 --> 01:49:31,199
some of that but that's when we get down

1897
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:33,280
the road with design and you know

1898
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:34,880
because that has the j street connector

1899
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:38,470
in it that has

1900
01:49:38,480 --> 01:49:40,560
three projects j street and then there

1901
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:43,280
is city hall and

1902
01:49:43,280 --> 01:49:44,800
i don't know

1903
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:46,239
but there's three projects lumped into

1904
01:49:46,239 --> 01:49:47,840
the number 884

1905
01:49:47,840 --> 01:49:49,280
but this is just for getting the

1906
01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:50,260
contracts moving

1907
01:49:50,260 --> 01:49:54,709
[Music]

1908
01:49:54,719 --> 01:50:03,510
could

1909
01:50:03,520 --> 01:50:04,880
these

1910
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,480
on broadway

1911
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:08,800
were cover heads that we did replace

1912
01:50:08,800 --> 01:50:12,159
with the leds but it's designed to

1913
01:50:12,159 --> 01:50:13,280
net

1914
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:16,159
project was only the cobra heads

1915
01:50:16,159 --> 01:50:18,320
these are to standardize the light so

1916
01:50:18,320 --> 01:50:20,960
they're the decorative ones that you see

1917
01:50:20,960 --> 01:50:22,960
in front of city hall and around

1918
01:50:22,960 --> 01:50:25,760
the rest of downtown

1919
01:50:25,760 --> 01:50:28,560
just to make it more visually attractive

1920
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:31,520
as we uh upgrade the streets and

1921
01:50:31,520 --> 01:50:33,920
overall ambiance and downtown wave

1922
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:35,840
fighting

1923
01:50:35,840 --> 01:50:38,400
okay weight finding is always a a piece

1924
01:50:38,400 --> 01:50:39,840
that they put in there for uh going for

1925
01:50:39,840 --> 01:50:42,639
a wavelength program

1926
01:50:42,639 --> 01:50:46,390
are there any other questions

1927
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:47,199
second

1928
01:50:47,199 --> 01:50:48,960
all those in favor of

1929
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:50,159
thank you

1930
01:50:50,159 --> 01:50:53,360
ah and uh item number four our worst

1931
01:50:53,360 --> 01:50:55,840
vehicle contract for the cities

1932
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,920
of schenectady greenhouse composting

1933
01:50:57,920 --> 01:50:59,520
toilet

1934
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:01,840
so um

1935
01:51:01,840 --> 01:51:02,880
the city

1936
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,159
owns the

1937
01:51:04,159 --> 01:51:06,080
greenhouse in central park the friends

1938
01:51:06,080 --> 01:51:07,920
of the greenhouse operate it and

1939
01:51:07,920 --> 01:51:09,199
maintain it for the most part they

1940
01:51:09,199 --> 01:51:10,960
really do a great job

1941
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:12,800
they have an existing

1942
01:51:12,800 --> 01:51:15,360
bathroom facility in both the greenhouse

1943
01:51:15,360 --> 01:51:16,800
utility building and in the teaching

1944
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:20,159
classroom neither building is ada

1945
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:22,159
accessible so when they have public

1946
01:51:22,159 --> 01:51:23,280
events

1947
01:51:23,280 --> 01:51:24,880
they don't have an accessible bathroom

1948
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:27,360
we did investigate the feasibility of

1949
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:29,360
making the building and the bathroom ada

1950
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:32,239
accessible the cost of it were

1951
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:34,159
they were high they were actually hiking

1952
01:51:34,159 --> 01:51:35,599
you had to build a ramp and open the

1953
01:51:35,599 --> 01:51:36,960
doors up and then after they did some

1954
01:51:36,960 --> 01:51:39,040
investigating into it then it got into

1955
01:51:39,040 --> 01:51:40,320
that's kind of theirs not only their

1956
01:51:40,320 --> 01:51:42,480
teaching space but their office space so

1957
01:51:42,480 --> 01:51:44,080
then it was do we really want the public

1958
01:51:44,080 --> 01:51:45,840
to have access into our office space

1959
01:51:45,840 --> 01:51:47,119
because they don't have enough staff to

1960
01:51:47,119 --> 01:51:48,639
keep eyes on everybody

1961
01:51:48,639 --> 01:51:50,880
and so then they started doing a little

1962
01:51:50,880 --> 01:51:53,760
brainstorming and they found this

1963
01:51:53,760 --> 01:51:56,159
composting toilet idea which is used at

1964
01:51:56,159 --> 01:51:57,840
the pine bush

1965
01:51:57,840 --> 01:52:00,080
it is a kit system

1966
01:52:00,080 --> 01:52:02,000
the contractor will order the kit from

1967
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:04,239
cliva small term it's a sole source the

1968
01:52:04,239 --> 01:52:06,880
kit will come on a truck the contractor

1969
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,520
puts it together digs a hole and it is a

1970
01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:12,000
self-sustaining composting toilet no

1971
01:52:12,000 --> 01:52:14,480
water and no electricity

1972
01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:15,840
it actually is going to have a solar

1973
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,320
panel and an led light and a fan so the

1974
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:20,480
solar panel will power it to a battery

1975
01:52:20,480 --> 01:52:26,159
um it will have a tank underneath it for waste and it'll compost and then

1976
01:52:26,159 --> 01:52:28,080
every couple of years if we need to you

1977
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:30,639
know we have the equipment to empty that

1978
01:52:30,639 --> 01:52:33,199
um the greenhouse thinks it fits more in

1979
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:35,599
line with their goals and it could be a

1980
01:52:35,599 --> 01:52:37,520
teaching item what they're saying is you

1981
01:52:37,520 --> 01:52:38,800
know here we have this the whole thing

1982
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,800
is compostable right it's about

1983
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,239
renewable trying to keep things

1984
01:52:42,239 --> 01:52:43,599
sustainable so they think this will be

1985
01:52:43,599 --> 01:52:45,679
good and it's a building it's a it's a

1986
01:52:45,679 --> 01:52:48,400
fully ada building so let's know that

1987
01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:50,320
part yeah

1988
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:51,679
so um

1989
01:52:51,679 --> 01:52:52,960
so it was something that you know we

1990
01:52:52,960 --> 01:52:55,840
have uh capital set aside to do this and

1991
01:52:55,840 --> 01:52:57,440
it's actually probably

1992
01:52:57,440 --> 01:52:59,280
a little cheaper than actually modifying

1993
01:52:59,280 --> 01:53:00,719
everything to go this route and from

1994
01:53:00,719 --> 01:53:02,960
there from their goals so i think it'll

1995
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,400
be a good project this is the same

1996
01:53:04,400 --> 01:53:06,560
contractor by the way that we recently

1997
01:53:06,560 --> 01:53:09,440
awarded the construction of the muni

1998
01:53:09,440 --> 01:53:11,199
maintenance building

1999
01:53:11,199 --> 01:53:14,080
and that is going on right now so

2000
01:53:14,080 --> 01:53:15,920
we've had he's been he's been good he's

2001
01:53:15,920 --> 01:53:17,119
working on the maintenance building the

2002
01:53:17,119 --> 01:53:18,320
goal is what he's done with that in a

2003
01:53:18,320 --> 01:53:20,560
month that he moves over and he does

2004
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:21,280
this

2005
01:53:21,280 --> 01:53:25,040
so this cost of 52 000 is the

2006
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:25,840
thank entire cost

2007
01:53:25,840 --> 01:53:27,599
great

2008
01:53:27,599 --> 01:53:29,199
sounds quite interesting by the way oh

2009
01:53:29,199 --> 01:53:34,149
and when it's all done yep come on down

2010
01:53:34,159 --> 01:53:36,320
all right i'm moving i'll second it i

2011
01:53:36,320 --> 01:53:38,080
was in favor

2012
01:53:38,080 --> 01:53:40,080
and we're able to do number one we did

2013
01:53:40,080 --> 01:53:47,750
it yeah

2014
01:53:47,760 --> 01:53:50,719
so the next item on our agenda is um the

2015
01:53:50,719 --> 01:53:52,400
hosting the quarterly meetings outside

2016
01:53:52,400 --> 01:53:55,280
of city hall follow-up discussion

2017
01:53:55,280 --> 01:53:57,440
mr williams so thank you for feeling i

2018
01:53:57,440 --> 01:53:59,199
apologize i wasn't able to brief this

2019
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:01,520
last meeting um but i wanted to

2020
01:54:01,520 --> 01:54:03,119
re-engage this discussion to see how

2021
01:54:03,119 --> 01:54:04,880
everyone kind of felt i know there was

2022
01:54:04,880 --> 01:54:07,679
an article that came on the gazette

2023
01:54:07,679 --> 01:54:09,360
regarding this topic

2024
01:54:09,360 --> 01:54:11,360
i know when i initially briefed it i

2025
01:54:11,360 --> 01:54:13,599
mentioned uh quarterly but it's kind of

2026
01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:15,360
developed into wanting it to be based

2027
01:54:15,360 --> 01:54:18,239
around a topic after doing research into

2028
01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:20,320
the city code the reason why i included

2029
01:54:20,320 --> 01:54:22,320
chapter 28 was there's already a

2030
01:54:22,320 --> 01:54:24,159
stipulation that allows us to conduct

2031
01:54:24,159 --> 01:54:26,239
special meetings that are only based

2032
01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:28,080
around um

2033
01:54:28,080 --> 01:54:29,920
very defined topics please correct me if

2034
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:33,679
i'm wrong mr coleman but with respect to

2035
01:54:33,679 --> 01:54:34,960
us having

2036
01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,599
conversations throughout the community

2037
01:54:37,599 --> 01:54:39,760
similar to this police

2038
01:54:39,760 --> 01:54:42,000
or the school ceo's conversation we

2039
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:44,239
could have had this discussion at the

2040
01:54:44,239 --> 01:54:45,679
high school where there have been a

2041
01:54:45,679 --> 01:54:47,679
number of uh discussions already since

2042
01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:49,840
it's already a centralized location for

2043
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:52,480
this this topic but

2044
01:54:52,480 --> 01:54:54,320
just wanting to gauge where everyone was

2045
01:54:54,320 --> 01:54:56,000
and then potentially highlight some

2046
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:57,440
equipment needs

2047
01:54:57,440 --> 01:54:58,719
just so

2048
01:54:58,719 --> 01:55:01,599
if interested i can begin just looking

2049
01:55:01,599 --> 01:55:03,840
at what available facilities are in the

2050
01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:05,760
area to see what our options are to

2051
01:55:05,760 --> 01:55:08,000
potentially host uh

2052
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,080
a topic discussion this year want to be

2053
01:55:10,080 --> 01:55:12,000
realistic don't want to open the door

2054
01:55:12,000 --> 01:55:13,920
for too much expectation

2055
01:55:13,920 --> 01:55:15,679
i do think this is something that is

2056
01:55:15,679 --> 01:55:17,119
easily achievable

2057
01:55:17,119 --> 01:55:19,520
if we can just fine-tune what we each

2058
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:21,920
expect from these meetings and uh

2059
01:55:21,920 --> 01:55:27,510
provide enough notice in the public

2060
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:29,199
it's free

2061
01:55:29,199 --> 01:55:30,960
um let's try to figure out how to look

2062
01:55:30,960 --> 01:55:34,480
too thank you for that um i actually

2063
01:55:34,480 --> 01:55:36,560
feel i just want to back up to the day

2064
01:55:36,560 --> 01:55:38,880
that we had the girls here from the high

2065
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:41,679
school uh to meet with ms porterfield

2066
01:55:41,679 --> 01:55:43,760
and ms detour and myself

2067
01:55:43,760 --> 01:55:45,760
we got really positive feedback from

2068
01:55:45,760 --> 01:55:47,520
that and they met with staff as well

2069
01:55:47,520 --> 01:55:49,760
around the city hall and

2070
01:55:49,760 --> 01:55:52,000
a comment that the

2071
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,760
teacher the coordinator of the program

2072
01:55:53,760 --> 01:55:56,320
made afterwards was that

2073
01:55:56,320 --> 01:55:57,599
some of the girls didn't even know that

2074
01:55:57,599 --> 01:55:59,199
city hall existed

2075
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:02,159
um in their community they had no idea

2076
01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:04,159
what this what this was

2077
01:56:04,159 --> 01:56:05,360
um

2078
01:56:05,360 --> 01:56:06,400
and

2079
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:08,000
uh

2080
01:56:08,000 --> 01:56:10,880
i thought then i thought about

2081
01:56:10,880 --> 01:56:12,719
the suggestion that you had made in

2082
01:56:12,719 --> 01:56:14,560
terms of moving the moving the meetings

2083
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,800
around and i really maintain i really

2084
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:18,800
think that it's important for

2085
01:56:18,800 --> 01:56:20,639
folks to come here

2086
01:56:20,639 --> 01:56:22,000
and and feel

2087
01:56:22,000 --> 01:56:24,080
like they're in the seat of democracy in

2088
01:56:24,080 --> 01:56:25,280
our city

2089
01:56:25,280 --> 01:56:27,360
at the same time i think that all of us

2090
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,119
have been going around to a lot of

2091
01:56:29,119 --> 01:56:31,119
various neighborhood meetings

2092
01:56:31,119 --> 01:56:33,760
um a lot of different topical meetings

2093
01:56:33,760 --> 01:56:36,560
there's one coming up soon that is

2094
01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:38,480
you know the one community uh the one

2095
01:56:38,480 --> 01:56:40,320
schenectady initiative that the

2096
01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:45,760
schenectady foundation is doing um so i think that there's a lot of meetings

2097
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:47,599
that we go to where we can solicit

2098
01:56:47,599 --> 01:56:50,560
community input and hear community needs

2099
01:56:50,560 --> 01:56:53,040
um on a really regular basis sikkem does

2100
01:56:53,040 --> 01:56:57,520
different kinds of meetings um so

2101
01:56:57,520 --> 01:56:59,760
now on to your suggestion that you just

2102
01:56:59,760 --> 01:57:02,320
made doing maybe one meeting a year on

2103
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:03,360
topic

2104
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:06,560
um i think if that was outside of our

2105
01:57:06,560 --> 01:57:08,320
regular council

2106
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:11,119
committee and and council meeting if we

2107
01:57:11,119 --> 01:57:13,360
kept our regular council committee and

2108
01:57:13,360 --> 01:57:15,119
council meetings here

2109
01:57:15,119 --> 01:57:18,560
but did add in every so often a topical

2110
01:57:18,560 --> 01:57:20,480
meeting like like you're suggesting i

2111
01:57:20,480 --> 01:57:22,480
think that's an interesting proposition

2112
01:57:22,480 --> 01:57:25,119
to consider but i would want to keep our

2113
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:27,360
counsel and committee meetings here

2114
01:57:27,360 --> 01:57:35,430
on a regular basis

2115
01:57:35,440 --> 01:57:37,920
so so again it's just being a conduit so

2116
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:39,920
i know absolutely we all attend a number

2117
01:57:39,920 --> 01:57:41,920
of neighborhood association meetings

2118
01:57:41,920 --> 01:57:44,560
throughout the city um however that

2119
01:57:44,560 --> 01:57:46,239
doesn't specifically address every

2120
01:57:46,239 --> 01:57:47,840
resident in the in the community so

2121
01:57:47,840 --> 01:57:49,920
there's still a portion of of our city

2122
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,320
where residents are being missed so i

2123
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,480
think there's still benefits to us

2124
01:57:54,480 --> 01:57:55,440
hosting

2125
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:56,560
uh

2126
01:57:56,560 --> 01:58:02,560
city city council discussions within the public forum

2127
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:04,400
the reason why i included the caveat of

2128
01:58:04,400 --> 01:58:06,080
just having our expectation for this

2129
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:08,320
year be one i don't think there's any

2130
01:58:08,320 --> 01:58:09,920
reason to be hard-pressed to having

2131
01:58:09,920 --> 01:58:11,440
quarterly meetings

2132
01:58:11,440 --> 01:58:13,040
right as we're coming out

2133
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:15,440
potentially re-entering a pandemic

2134
01:58:15,440 --> 01:58:17,920
and i think placing that expectation

2135
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:19,440
with the council that's still

2136
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,360
formulating together when the number of

2137
01:58:21,360 --> 01:58:23,760
members are still new i think it's very

2138
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,040
grandiose

2139
01:58:25,040 --> 01:58:26,960
so for me right now i think if the

2140
01:58:26,960 --> 01:58:29,360
intent is to potentially get to having

2141
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:30,400
meetings

2142
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:31,920
frequently throughout the year in the

2143
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:34,480
community i think starting with calendar

2144
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:37,040
year 22 just having the expectation

2145
01:58:37,040 --> 01:58:38,800
being with one coming back to the

2146
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,639
drawing board seeing how that went and

2147
01:58:40,639 --> 01:58:42,480
then potentially reevaluating the

2148
01:58:42,480 --> 01:58:45,280
benefits so it was just one to not

2149
01:58:45,280 --> 01:58:51,750
kind of hard press tyus to

2150
01:58:51,760 --> 01:58:52,800
yeah

2151
01:58:52,800 --> 01:58:54,480
it is something that we have heard over

2152
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,719
the last year about

2153
01:58:56,719 --> 01:58:58,639
campaigning talking to voters people who

2154
01:58:58,639 --> 01:59:00,639
are engaged that we need to engage our

2155
01:59:00,639 --> 01:59:02,000
community more

2156
01:59:02,000 --> 01:59:03,920
of what we're doing in city hall exactly

2157
01:59:03,920 --> 01:59:04,960
what the

2158
01:59:04,960 --> 01:59:07,599
young lady has been asking

2159
01:59:07,599 --> 01:59:09,599
about where is city hall

2160
01:59:09,599 --> 01:59:11,199
so we want to take a good idea you're

2161
01:59:11,199 --> 01:59:13,040
bringing this up here so that we take

2162
01:59:13,040 --> 01:59:14,320
our meetings

2163
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:16,480
to the community when you say one

2164
01:59:16,480 --> 01:59:18,800
meeting are you referring to committee

2165
01:59:18,800 --> 01:59:21,520
meeting or city council

2166
01:59:21,520 --> 01:59:23,119
or should we do both

2167
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:24,880
in the same cycle

2168
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:26,960
so we can currently do a special meeting

2169
01:59:26,960 --> 01:59:28,639
um and

2170
01:59:28,639 --> 01:59:30,480
at that point it would be outlining what

2171
01:59:30,480 --> 01:59:32,159
is needed to have a

2172
01:59:32,159 --> 01:59:33,679
habit wow

2173
01:59:33,679 --> 01:59:35,840
what is needed to have a meeting in the

2174
01:59:35,840 --> 01:59:37,920
public so the expectations with making

2175
01:59:37,920 --> 01:59:40,320
sure that we had internet connectivity

2176
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,080
or making sure that we had an

2177
01:59:42,080 --> 01:59:43,599
appropriate table size that type of

2178
01:59:43,599 --> 01:59:47,199
stuff to make sure it wasn't too uh

2179
01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:52,480
displaced when we go to a different venue um but absolutely i

2180
01:59:52,480 --> 01:59:55,920
would love to potentially get to having more and this is something i

2181
01:59:55,920 --> 01:59:58,880
support so what i need for us to work

2182
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:00,639
out the logistics how are we gonna be

2183
02:00:00,639 --> 02:00:03,119
able to get live feed from their

2184
02:00:03,119 --> 02:00:05,520
internet access and accommodation if we

2185
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:08,960
were to do this outside of city hall

2186
02:00:08,960 --> 02:00:10,320
what are what are the things that we

2187
02:00:10,320 --> 02:00:11,679
need to put in place

2188
02:00:11,679 --> 02:00:13,760
so can we work on that to see how we are

2189
02:00:13,760 --> 02:00:16,560
and what the council

2190
02:00:16,560 --> 02:00:18,080
you know you know from the council in

2191
02:00:18,080 --> 02:00:19,599
terms of what's doing that outside of

2192
02:00:19,599 --> 02:00:21,920
city hall

2193
02:00:21,920 --> 02:00:23,760
ms williams before having those

2194
02:00:23,760 --> 02:00:25,679
discussions i didn't want to prematurely

2195
02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:27,760
like start asking as if the council had

2196
02:00:27,760 --> 02:00:29,679
already decided uh i'm just one

2197
02:00:29,679 --> 02:00:31,760
representative so i feel very strongly

2198
02:00:31,760 --> 02:00:33,599
about doing this but i want to make sure

2199
02:00:33,599 --> 02:00:35,760
before i start asking smackley high

2200
02:00:35,760 --> 02:00:38,800
school hey what are the expectations for

2201
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:40,320
us to be able to request the use of your

2202
02:00:40,320 --> 02:00:42,239
auditorium i think it's it's it's

2203
02:00:42,239 --> 02:00:44,080
important for me to make sure that we

2204
02:00:44,080 --> 02:00:45,360
are all functioning with the same

2205
02:00:45,360 --> 02:00:47,119
understanding and that i'm not acting

2206
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:48,400
inappropriately

2207
02:00:48,400 --> 02:00:50,000
and you mentioned the high school i'm

2208
02:00:50,000 --> 02:00:51,520
just going to mention the boys and girls

2209
02:00:51,520 --> 02:00:54,320
club just for mentioning

2210
02:00:54,320 --> 02:00:56,800
so i like the idea of having a special

2211
02:00:56,800 --> 02:00:58,960
meeting that's and keeping our council

2212
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,239
meetings and our community meetings here

2213
02:01:00,239 --> 02:01:01,760
right now since we're

2214
02:01:01,760 --> 02:01:02,639
um

2215
02:01:02,639 --> 02:01:04,880
taking baby steps so having a special

2216
02:01:04,880 --> 02:01:07,679
meeting um and having it on a specific

2217
02:01:07,679 --> 02:01:09,840
topic and actually um i received some

2218
02:01:09,840 --> 02:01:11,280
emails actually from a former council

2219
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:13,679
member who who um mr o'brien who saw

2220
02:01:13,679 --> 02:01:15,599
that you know who suggested that back in

2221
02:01:15,599 --> 02:01:17,360
january actually that if we're going to

2222
02:01:17,360 --> 02:01:19,360
do this maybe we should look at a

2223
02:01:19,360 --> 02:01:21,840
special meeting on a particular topic so

2224
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,560
i'm very supportive of that uh if we

2225
02:01:24,560 --> 02:01:26,400
can you know in the future do our

2226
02:01:26,400 --> 02:01:27,760
committee meetings or council meetings

2227
02:01:27,760 --> 02:01:29,119
outside i think that's going to take a

2228
02:01:29,119 --> 02:01:30,960
lot of organizing

2229
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:34,800
and arranging but i'm certainly open to

2230
02:01:34,800 --> 02:01:36,800
doing it at least one and actually if it

2231
02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:40,000
works out well i'm open to doing more um

2232
02:01:40,000 --> 02:01:42,480
as ms patrick has said that we do have

2233
02:01:42,480 --> 02:01:43,840
uh we brought the young ladies here and

2234
02:01:43,840 --> 02:01:45,840
they've never seen um

2235
02:01:45,840 --> 02:01:48,000
they've never seen uh city hall before

2236
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,880
so i think that both things can happen

2237
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:52,880
that we're out in the public and we're

2238
02:01:52,880 --> 02:01:55,040
also when we're there inviting people to

2239
02:01:55,040 --> 02:01:56,960
actually come to city hall meetings

2240
02:01:56,960 --> 02:01:58,480
because currently when people come it's

2241
02:01:58,480 --> 02:02:00,239
just because they have an issue i'd love

2242
02:02:00,239 --> 02:02:02,080
people to come just to you know to

2243
02:02:02,080 --> 02:02:05,199
engage into you know um just to be there

2244
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:07,760
to kind of see how we do our process so

2245
02:02:07,760 --> 02:02:08,719
i

2246
02:02:08,719 --> 02:02:10,320
think that going out to them would

2247
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:12,800
probably get more people to to begin to

2248
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:15,599
come when we want to get on this council

2249
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:17,280
we certainly show up

2250
02:02:17,280 --> 02:02:18,960
to the public on a regular basis for

2251
02:02:18,960 --> 02:02:20,560
weeks on end so

2252
02:02:20,560 --> 02:02:22,480
i think that you know once we're now

2253
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:24,239
we're all elected we you know coming

2254
02:02:24,239 --> 02:02:26,320
back to the community and having a

2255
02:02:26,320 --> 02:02:27,679
reform there

2256
02:02:27,679 --> 02:02:30,080
is actually um kind of a nice idea and

2257
02:02:30,080 --> 02:02:32,159
says to the community we don't only come

2258
02:02:32,159 --> 02:02:33,920
um for this time so i think it might be

2259
02:02:33,920 --> 02:02:35,280
a good idea

2260
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:37,440
mr palamini we don't need to have a

2261
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,599
special meeting to do this first of all

2262
02:02:39,599 --> 02:02:42,000
we just can have a town hall

2263
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,040
and have people come and discuss what it

2264
02:02:45,040 --> 02:02:47,280
is that interests them

2265
02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:49,920
furthermore if we have a special meeting

2266
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:52,639
we are bound i'm assuming by

2267
02:02:52,639 --> 02:02:55,360
the guidelines of a council meeting

2268
02:02:55,360 --> 02:02:57,360
where each individual only has a certain

2269
02:02:57,360 --> 02:02:59,040
amount of time to speak

2270
02:02:59,040 --> 02:03:01,920
so why not just have informal town halls

2271
02:03:01,920 --> 02:03:03,679
where we all show up

2272
02:03:03,679 --> 02:03:06,639
let people come and say what they need

2273
02:03:06,639 --> 02:03:08,880
to say if you want to form it around a

2274
02:03:08,880 --> 02:03:11,440
particular topic that's fine but to have

2275
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,440
a special meeting

2276
02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:16,320
quote unquote i don't see that as

2277
02:03:16,320 --> 02:03:18,880
necessary we can do this already

2278
02:03:18,880 --> 02:03:21,440
and the other aspect is if we do these

2279
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,760
special meetings what will be the cost

2280
02:03:23,760 --> 02:03:26,000
there's got to be a cost associated with

2281
02:03:26,000 --> 02:03:27,599
that

2282
02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:30,960
and that i think is needed to

2283
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:33,599
have before we even go down that road

2284
02:03:33,599 --> 02:03:36,080
but the town halls we can do

2285
02:03:36,080 --> 02:03:37,840
so what mr waves said is that he wanted

2286
02:03:37,840 --> 02:03:39,199
to make sure there was a consensus that

2287
02:03:39,199 --> 02:03:41,199
we would do this before he looked into

2288
02:03:41,199 --> 02:03:42,480
what the cost is going to be what

2289
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:44,480
equipment is needed because i think we

2290
02:03:44,480 --> 02:03:45,520
do have to

2291
02:03:45,520 --> 02:03:46,639
make sure that it's even something we

2292
02:03:46,639 --> 02:03:48,159
want to do otherwise

2293
02:03:48,159 --> 02:03:50,079
it's just um

2294
02:03:50,079 --> 02:03:53,440
yes mr torreira mr williams

2295
02:03:53,440 --> 02:03:55,440
exactly what neighborhoods aren't being

2296
02:03:55,440 --> 02:03:58,000
represented

2297
02:03:58,000 --> 02:03:59,760
by

2298
02:03:59,760 --> 02:04:01,520
the local

2299
02:04:01,520 --> 02:04:03,360
groups

2300
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:06,079
you say they don't have access to

2301
02:04:06,079 --> 02:04:08,000
going to the neighborhood association

2302
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:10,000
meetings are there specific areas that

2303
02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:12,300
can't get to a neighborhood meeting

2304
02:04:12,300 --> 02:04:14,880
[Music]

2305
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:16,880
so i wasn't saying that individuals

2306
02:04:16,880 --> 02:04:18,560
aren't able to become members of

2307
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,800
specific neighborhoods i'm saying the

2308
02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:22,239
neighborhood associations aren't

2309
02:04:22,239 --> 02:04:24,320
all-encompassing of every member and the

2310
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:26,000
community so there are certain members

2311
02:04:26,000 --> 02:04:27,199
who just

2312
02:04:27,199 --> 02:04:29,760
don't attend organizations and i think

2313
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:31,280
it's important for us to make certain

2314
02:04:31,280 --> 02:04:34,239
steps to make sure that they are able to

2315
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:35,840
be

2316
02:04:35,840 --> 02:04:38,560
viewers or to have better access so this

2317
02:04:38,560 --> 02:04:39,760
is again just

2318
02:04:39,760 --> 02:04:41,760
increasing access for people to to see

2319
02:04:41,760 --> 02:04:44,239
us and then engage with us so we can

2320
02:04:44,239 --> 02:04:46,639
then bring them in to to city hall

2321
02:04:46,639 --> 02:04:48,400
because i've heard that frequently where

2322
02:04:48,400 --> 02:04:49,760
people don't even know where city hall

2323
02:04:49,760 --> 02:04:51,679
even exists

2324
02:04:51,679 --> 02:04:53,040
and

2325
02:04:53,040 --> 02:04:55,920
your goal is to increase people in

2326
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:57,199
attendance

2327
02:04:57,199 --> 02:04:58,880
first of all at a special meeting and

2328
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,560
then secondly to get them to come here

2329
02:05:02,560 --> 02:05:04,000
yes ms williams

2330
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:05,520
my intent very

2331
02:05:05,520 --> 02:05:07,520
candidly is i

2332
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:11,119
it pains me to hear our public forums

2333
02:05:11,119 --> 02:05:12,960
have zero comments

2334
02:05:12,960 --> 02:05:15,760
and that represents a legislative item i

2335
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,719
think it is imperative that we have

2336
02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:20,800
continuous input and feedback from the

2337
02:05:20,800 --> 02:05:23,440
members of our city and if people aren't

2338
02:05:23,440 --> 02:05:25,599
using the current processes that are in

2339
02:05:25,599 --> 02:05:28,719
place us taking steps to see what more

2340
02:05:28,719 --> 02:05:30,880
we can do to meet them where they are

2341
02:05:30,880 --> 02:05:33,750
sure

2342
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:35,360
mayor

2343
02:05:35,360 --> 02:05:37,440
in

2344
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:38,560
my uh

2345
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:41,280
years of experience you will

2346
02:05:41,280 --> 02:05:42,239
notice

2347
02:05:42,239 --> 02:05:44,719
you'll look back and appreciate where

2348
02:05:44,719 --> 02:05:46,320
things have run fairly smoothly and

2349
02:05:46,320 --> 02:05:48,079
people are all in agreement when you get

2350
02:05:48,079 --> 02:05:49,679
the meeting where

2351
02:05:49,679 --> 02:05:52,239
everybody comes out and all of a sudden

2352
02:05:52,239 --> 02:05:54,639
things have changed so much so it runs

2353
02:05:54,639 --> 02:05:56,239
in cycles that

2354
02:05:56,239 --> 02:05:58,239
it may be self-correcting that you're

2355
02:05:58,239 --> 02:05:59,520
looking to

2356
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:01,679
meet everybody then one day everybody's

2357
02:06:01,679 --> 02:06:03,520
just going to show up here

2358
02:06:03,520 --> 02:06:09,189
i'll be sick one day

2359
02:06:09,199 --> 02:06:10,560
i think that

2360
02:06:10,560 --> 02:06:12,079
me i think a good example are the

2361
02:06:12,079 --> 02:06:13,920
neighborhood meetings that we did hold

2362
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:15,599
at the mayor hill held that we all

2363
02:06:15,599 --> 02:06:17,920
attended um for the awkward process i

2364
02:06:17,920 --> 02:06:19,760
mean i think that's pretty much the town

2365
02:06:19,760 --> 02:06:20,560
hall

2366
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:21,440
model

2367
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:25,040
um that mr palamani is mentioning um

2368
02:06:25,040 --> 02:06:26,800
and i'll just throw out there also that

2369
02:06:26,800 --> 02:06:28,719
don't forget about the libraries as well

2370
02:06:28,719 --> 02:06:30,000
because they have a lot of the

2371
02:06:30,000 --> 02:06:31,119
technology

2372
02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:32,719
um and

2373
02:06:32,719 --> 02:06:34,000
pretty much we can

2374
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:36,159
as long as we get on schedule uh use

2375
02:06:36,159 --> 02:06:38,639
those you know at no cost

2376
02:06:38,639 --> 02:06:40,960
um so it would just be the technology

2377
02:06:40,960 --> 02:06:50,550
piece um which

2378
02:06:50,560 --> 02:06:52,480
and it's nothing new i mean we've done

2379
02:06:52,480 --> 02:06:55,920
this in the past um unfortunately

2380
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:57,679
not very well attended

2381
02:06:57,679 --> 02:06:58,560
but

2382
02:06:58,560 --> 02:07:02,239
we have had these type of events so

2383
02:07:02,239 --> 02:07:04,400
to have a town hall or

2384
02:07:04,400 --> 02:07:06,719
and get people engaged with a particular

2385
02:07:06,719 --> 02:07:10,639
topic or just what's on their mind

2386
02:07:10,639 --> 02:07:13,440
this is nothing new for us and

2387
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:14,960
um

2388
02:07:14,960 --> 02:07:16,639
it's something that we can do without

2389
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:19,599
having a special meeting

2390
02:07:19,599 --> 02:07:22,400
i don't i don't recall as a whole entire

2391
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:24,159
council ever doing that we certainly

2392
02:07:24,159 --> 02:07:27,119
took the budget on the road

2393
02:07:27,119 --> 02:07:30,550
the budget yeah

2394
02:07:30,560 --> 02:07:32,560
okay i don't remember that

2395
02:07:32,560 --> 02:07:34,480
we did because i was the chair we set up

2396
02:07:34,480 --> 02:07:36,079
the meetings and every time probably

2397
02:07:36,079 --> 02:07:38,079
four or five different neighborhoods

2398
02:07:38,079 --> 02:07:43,119
and there weren't very many people that came unfortunately

2399
02:07:43,119 --> 02:07:44,320
okay

2400
02:07:44,320 --> 02:07:51,189
if you do a budget with a tax increase

2401
02:07:51,199 --> 02:07:52,639
but i was gonna say that's why it's

2402
02:07:52,639 --> 02:07:55,040
important to do these types of

2403
02:07:55,040 --> 02:07:56,560
deliberations as a council because

2404
02:07:56,560 --> 02:07:58,400
that's a very important idea where i'll

2405
02:07:58,400 --> 02:08:00,639
be able to i'm not in no position trying

2406
02:08:00,639 --> 02:08:02,800
to have us recreate the wheel i just

2407
02:08:02,800 --> 02:08:04,320
want to see it happen

2408
02:08:04,320 --> 02:08:06,880
so if we can come together and develop a

2409
02:08:06,880 --> 02:08:08,320
framework for how that town hall is

2410
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,960
going to happen occur and if we hold

2411
02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:12,400
each other accountable to be present

2412
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,079
because i think there is power in

2413
02:08:14,079 --> 02:08:16,079
numbers and as a council we should be

2414
02:08:16,079 --> 02:08:18,960
engaging the city i am not opposed to

2415
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:20,719
just having something that is already

2416
02:08:20,719 --> 02:08:22,159
done in the past just making sure we

2417
02:08:22,159 --> 02:08:27,040
picked the right topic to improve our exposure

2418
02:08:27,040 --> 02:08:28,320
nice

2419
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:29,840
so what are you looking for at this

2420
02:08:29,840 --> 02:08:34,149
point in time

2421
02:08:34,159 --> 02:08:36,400
i would say if the consensus is shifting

2422
02:08:36,400 --> 02:08:40,079
towards having a town hall um

2423
02:08:40,079 --> 02:08:42,639
i can formulate some themes

2424
02:08:42,639 --> 02:08:45,280
to have the conversation around and if

2425
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:47,360
in the meantime everyone can just come

2426
02:08:47,360 --> 02:08:48,960
up with what their individual

2427
02:08:48,960 --> 02:08:51,520
expectations for town hall

2428
02:08:51,520 --> 02:08:52,639
it's uh

2429
02:08:52,639 --> 02:08:55,440
how you envision that being structured

2430
02:08:55,440 --> 02:08:59,189
i think

2431
02:08:59,199 --> 02:09:00,400
okay

2432
02:09:00,400 --> 02:09:02,480
do you want to bring this back up

2433
02:09:02,480 --> 02:09:04,639
in two weeks

2434
02:09:04,639 --> 02:09:06,880
so in two weeks we just kind of come

2435
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,040
back to the table with um what we'd like

2436
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:10,560
to see happen maybe talk about some

2437
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:12,320
topics i'd like to see

2438
02:09:12,320 --> 02:09:14,880
um and you'll look at we can talk about

2439
02:09:14,880 --> 02:09:16,400
different locations

2440
02:09:16,400 --> 02:09:18,079
and of course we don't have to worry

2441
02:09:18,079 --> 02:09:20,639
about um concerning ourselves with

2442
02:09:20,639 --> 02:09:22,079
making sure that we have the technology

2443
02:09:22,079 --> 02:09:23,440
that we need so

2444
02:09:23,440 --> 02:09:25,119
all right just it's a classification so

2445
02:09:25,119 --> 02:09:26,320
we're still going to be continuing

2446
02:09:26,320 --> 02:09:28,159
discussion and having

2447
02:09:28,159 --> 02:09:30,719
city council

2448
02:09:30,719 --> 02:09:45,189
and

2449
02:09:45,199 --> 02:09:46,880
my understanding is we were just really

2450
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:49,520
talking about town halls are you still want to continue the

2451
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:52,149
discussion

2452
02:09:52,159 --> 02:09:54,320
outside the home city hall well

2453
02:09:54,320 --> 02:09:56,079
i wouldn't be in favor of that so i

2454
02:09:56,079 --> 02:09:57,599
don't know i think you were looking for

2455
02:09:57,599 --> 02:09:59,520
whether there was consensus among the

2456
02:09:59,520 --> 02:10:00,639
board members

2457
02:10:00,639 --> 02:10:03,040
around among the council members um

2458
02:10:03,040 --> 02:10:05,199
about whether we would be interested in

2459
02:10:05,199 --> 02:10:06,079
doing

2460
02:10:06,079 --> 02:10:09,679
city council meetings my statement was

2461
02:10:09,679 --> 02:10:11,679
that i i would rather hold our city

2462
02:10:11,679 --> 02:10:14,400
council meetings in our city council

2463
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,480
committee meetings here

2464
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:18,400
um i would be

2465
02:10:18,400 --> 02:10:20,639
open to having

2466
02:10:20,639 --> 02:10:21,679
topical

2467
02:10:21,679 --> 02:10:23,599
meetings in other neighborhoods and

2468
02:10:23,599 --> 02:10:26,840
other settings so that's just my my

2469
02:10:26,840 --> 02:10:28,639
vote

2470
02:10:28,639 --> 02:10:31,360
all right so it's clear that um so let's

2471
02:10:31,360 --> 02:10:32,719
just

2472
02:10:32,719 --> 02:10:34,639
have a just kind of like just talk this

2473
02:10:34,639 --> 02:10:36,480
through so are you still interested in

2474
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,320
doing council meetings not necessarily

2475
02:10:38,320 --> 02:10:40,320
right now not that one this year but in

2476
02:10:40,320 --> 02:10:41,679
the future is that something you're

2477
02:10:41,679 --> 02:10:43,599
still interested in doing yes in the

2478
02:10:43,599 --> 02:10:45,599
future but if we're able to have one now

2479
02:10:45,599 --> 02:10:48,400
the the the town hall discussion to to

2480
02:10:48,400 --> 02:10:50,480
see how it's perceived and see how it's

2481
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,239
formulated i think it would be more or

2482
02:10:52,239 --> 02:10:54,580
less like a test

2483
02:10:54,580 --> 02:11:09,189
[Music]

2484
02:11:09,199 --> 02:11:11,679
see where we are with it

2485
02:11:11,679 --> 02:11:15,270
mr toro

2486
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:17,679
are we going around the food yeah okay

2487
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:18,480
so

2488
02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:22,000
i i like carl's idea um you know town

2489
02:11:22,000 --> 02:11:23,280
hall

2490
02:11:23,280 --> 02:11:25,040
see how that works out and then in the

2491
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:27,119
future i mean if it works out well this

2492
02:11:27,119 --> 02:11:29,840
time and we want to discuss it again i

2493
02:11:29,840 --> 02:11:32,239
think our meetings belong here in our

2494
02:11:32,239 --> 02:11:34,560
government building and

2495
02:11:34,560 --> 02:11:36,320
you know but maybe we'll get some more

2496
02:11:36,320 --> 02:11:39,760
folks to join us but um i think for now

2497
02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:41,280
if we have a town hall and all of a

2498
02:11:41,280 --> 02:11:43,599
sudden it seems like there's 40 people

2499
02:11:43,599 --> 02:11:45,119
who might want to

2500
02:11:45,119 --> 02:11:46,560
um

2501
02:11:46,560 --> 02:11:47,760
have us

2502
02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:52,069
do a special meeting

2503
02:11:52,079 --> 02:11:53,599
something we can bring back to the table

2504
02:11:53,599 --> 02:11:56,239
and discuss okay there mr pelham did you

2505
02:11:56,239 --> 02:11:58,719
have more input i just think uh our

2506
02:11:58,719 --> 02:12:01,040
meeting should be here

2507
02:12:01,040 --> 02:12:02,560
this is the center of our city

2508
02:12:02,560 --> 02:12:04,480
government it's important for people to

2509
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:05,280
know

2510
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:06,960
where this building is

2511
02:12:06,960 --> 02:12:08,960
what it represents it represents

2512
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:10,960
everybody in this city

2513
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:13,679
and it's important to try to get people

2514
02:12:13,679 --> 02:12:14,560
here

2515
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:18,000
whether it's kids and maybe we can have

2516
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:21,840
a one day a month where we do tours for

2517
02:12:21,840 --> 02:12:23,920
kids or school groups

2518
02:12:23,920 --> 02:12:25,679
if the mayor's available

2519
02:12:25,679 --> 02:12:26,800
he could

2520
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:28,320
come and see them that would be

2521
02:12:28,320 --> 02:12:31,599
something worthwhile to get kids here

2522
02:12:31,599 --> 02:12:33,360
and younger people

2523
02:12:33,360 --> 02:12:35,840
but i think it's vital

2524
02:12:35,840 --> 02:12:38,880
for having government meetings in our

2525
02:12:38,880 --> 02:12:40,480
cities

2526
02:12:40,480 --> 02:12:42,320
where our city government centered is

2527
02:12:42,320 --> 02:12:43,840
important

2528
02:12:43,840 --> 02:12:46,239
and if we truly want to hear what people

2529
02:12:46,239 --> 02:12:49,280
have to say the town hall concept allows

2530
02:12:49,280 --> 02:12:50,719
them

2531
02:12:50,719 --> 02:12:52,079
to talk

2532
02:12:52,079 --> 02:12:54,560
and for us to be quiet and listen

2533
02:12:54,560 --> 02:12:55,520
and

2534
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:56,960
i think that

2535
02:12:56,960 --> 02:12:58,239
to me is the

2536
02:12:58,239 --> 02:13:00,480
more appropriate way to go

2537
02:13:00,480 --> 02:13:03,040
well i think both are acceptable and

2538
02:13:03,040 --> 02:13:04,880
we'll just continue to go down this road

2539
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:06,880
um i i understand what you're saying

2540
02:13:06,880 --> 02:13:09,199
about this being you know in peop being

2541
02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:10,960
the center of government

2542
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:13,760
however the city is also part of the

2543
02:13:13,760 --> 02:13:15,199
people that we serve and so meeting them

2544
02:13:15,199 --> 02:13:17,040
where they are i think is of equal

2545
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:18,800
importance so

2546
02:13:18,800 --> 02:13:20,480
we'll put it on again for two weeks and

2547
02:13:20,480 --> 02:13:22,000
just continue these discussions so if

2548
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:24,079
you can bring back your

2549
02:13:24,079 --> 02:13:31,830
uh

2550
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:34,000
language in the city code says that

2551
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:36,880
council meetings are to take place at

2552
02:13:36,880 --> 02:13:39,520
city hall unless otherwise posted right

2553
02:13:39,520 --> 02:13:42,000
with proper notice

2554
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:43,119
i would

2555
02:13:43,119 --> 02:13:44,639
say that it doesn't really set out

2556
02:13:44,639 --> 02:13:46,239
whether or not you have to do something

2557
02:13:46,239 --> 02:13:48,719
by resolution for that purpose

2558
02:13:48,719 --> 02:13:52,239
i would for the purposes of um you know

2559
02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:54,800
providing notice to the public my

2560
02:13:54,800 --> 02:13:56,320
recommendation would be that the council

2561
02:13:56,320 --> 02:13:57,920
passed a resolution for that purpose

2562
02:13:57,920 --> 02:13:59,440
[Music]

2563
02:13:59,440 --> 02:14:01,199
so if we're going to do a special

2564
02:14:01,199 --> 02:14:03,520
meeting because it does

2565
02:14:03,520 --> 02:14:04,639
give um

2566
02:14:04,639 --> 02:14:06,079
how that's done that special meaning

2567
02:14:06,079 --> 02:14:09,119
that's clearly covered in the code so

2568
02:14:09,119 --> 02:14:10,320
if we're not going to do a special

2569
02:14:10,320 --> 02:14:11,920
meeting however or if we're going to

2570
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:14,079
call it a town hall

2571
02:14:14,079 --> 02:14:16,480
do we need to what would we need to do

2572
02:14:16,480 --> 02:14:19,840
no you wouldn't have to know because

2573
02:14:19,840 --> 02:14:20,880
i mean

2574
02:14:20,880 --> 02:14:22,239
there's nothing in the code that talks

2575
02:14:22,239 --> 02:14:24,639
about town hall meetings right so

2576
02:14:24,639 --> 02:14:26,480
anything that were to happen

2577
02:14:26,480 --> 02:14:28,239
um you know the

2578
02:14:28,239 --> 02:14:30,079
obviously the council can obviously

2579
02:14:30,079 --> 02:14:32,239
agree to do it um

2580
02:14:32,239 --> 02:14:35,199
if somebody didn't make it

2581
02:14:35,199 --> 02:14:37,199
um there's nothing you know in the code

2582
02:14:37,199 --> 02:14:39,760
that requires a council person to attend

2583
02:14:39,760 --> 02:14:41,040
the town hall

2584
02:14:41,040 --> 02:14:43,199
to be frank

2585
02:14:43,199 --> 02:14:44,960
as opposed to you know

2586
02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:46,320
certain requirements related to

2587
02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:48,400
attending regular meetings and

2588
02:14:48,400 --> 02:14:50,159
you know meeting actual meetings of the

2589
02:14:50,159 --> 02:14:51,360
council the other thing is if you were

2590
02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,119
to do town hall you couldn't take any

2591
02:14:53,119 --> 02:14:56,079
formal action obviously uh as

2592
02:14:56,079 --> 02:14:57,360
mr palmer

2593
02:14:57,360 --> 02:14:59,199
is to you know listen to what people

2594
02:14:59,199 --> 02:15:00,719
have to say it's one of those times when

2595
02:15:00,719 --> 02:15:02,159
we would just have to you know you as

2596
02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:03,280
council people have to sit there and

2597
02:15:03,280 --> 02:15:05,280
just listen to what people say because

2598
02:15:05,280 --> 02:15:07,199
you can't take official action

2599
02:15:07,199 --> 02:15:08,719
um

2600
02:15:08,719 --> 02:15:10,320
because it's not a regularly called

2601
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:16,149
council meeting

2602
02:15:16,159 --> 02:15:18,239
excuse me

2603
02:15:18,239 --> 02:15:20,480
but they could ask us questions yes

2604
02:15:20,480 --> 02:15:22,560
absolutely yeah so it's not like

2605
02:15:22,560 --> 02:15:25,360
you would create the format yeah

2606
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,000
okay but you couldn't obviously pass a

2607
02:15:28,000 --> 02:15:29,920
resolution right right no i just can't

2608
02:15:29,920 --> 02:15:33,280
i'll take a formal option yeah okay

2609
02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:34,400
all right well let's bring this back

2610
02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:36,560
into exciting

2611
02:15:36,560 --> 02:15:38,560
and we'll see definitely discussions and

2612
02:15:38,560 --> 02:15:39,679
it sounds like we're leaning more

2613
02:15:39,679 --> 02:15:41,440
towards town hall but i think at some

2614
02:15:41,440 --> 02:15:43,360
point special meaning outside should not

2615
02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:46,880
be outside the realm of possibility

2616
02:15:46,880 --> 02:15:48,480
any other questions or discussions on

2617
02:15:48,480 --> 02:15:49,199
that

2618
02:15:49,199 --> 02:15:51,199
no okay

2619
02:15:51,199 --> 02:15:52,000
we'll

2620
02:15:52,000 --> 02:15:54,320
be back in two weeks with that thank you

2621
02:15:54,320 --> 02:15:55,760
mr williams

2622
02:15:55,760 --> 02:15:57,920
all right the uh next item on the agenda

2623
02:15:57,920 --> 02:16:00,000
is a um

2624
02:16:00,000 --> 02:16:02,239
ceremonial resolution for jerry amy zion

2625
02:16:02,239 --> 02:16:04,560
church there are going to be 185 years

2626
02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,000
ago

2627
02:16:06,000 --> 02:16:07,520
they're the oldest black church in the

2628
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:10,000
city and their event is on the 29th so

2629
02:16:10,000 --> 02:16:11,920
um i'd like to be able to present them

2630
02:16:11,920 --> 02:16:12,880
with a

2631
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:15,199
ceremony resolution

2632
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:19,360
so second all those in favor thank you

2633
02:16:19,360 --> 02:16:21,119
and the uh

2634
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:23,840
the next item for public is the a

2635
02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:25,920
ceremony resolution for arbor day which

2636
02:16:25,920 --> 02:16:28,639
is the 29th of april this year we do a

2637
02:16:28,639 --> 02:16:30,639
resolution for them every year

2638
02:16:30,639 --> 02:16:33,359
we would invite folks from retreat and

2639
02:16:33,359 --> 02:16:35,280
whoever else is helping i know community

2640
02:16:35,280 --> 02:16:37,120
fathers is involved with um doing some

2641
02:16:37,120 --> 02:16:39,439
of the tree planting nowadays so we just

2642
02:16:39,439 --> 02:16:41,599
invite folks to city hall to accept that

2643
02:16:41,599 --> 02:16:44,800
resolution so moved okay always in favor

2644
02:16:44,800 --> 02:16:46,800
hi

2645
02:16:46,800 --> 02:16:49,040
okay um

2646
02:16:49,040 --> 02:16:51,519
the final four items are for executive

2647
02:16:51,519 --> 02:16:55,280
session to discuss property sales

2648
02:16:55,280 --> 02:16:57,359
so uh at this time on the same motion to

2649
02:16:57,359 --> 02:16:59,280
go in executive session

2650
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:01,760
second all's in favor all right

2651
02:17:01,760 --> 02:17:02,639
okay

2652
02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:06,559
we're gonna go to the executive session