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[14:00] to order for monday april 18th
[14:03] and our first committee is claims
[14:06] yes i'd like thank you i'd like to open
[14:08] the claims on
[14:10] the claims meeting
[14:13] and i'd like to uh we have two claims on
[14:16] the on the docket and one of them is
[14:18] going to
[14:19] uh include our outside counsel so i'd
[14:21] like to uh call for a motion to go into
[14:23] executive session
[14:26] is there's
[14:27] a second you're thinking i'm
[14:32] okay so we're gonna go into executive
[14:34] session
[41:09] oh
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[41:43] true
[41:58] all right um next on the agenda we have
[42:00] a presentation by all of us it's going
[42:03] to be on the results of the black
[42:04] freedom project community safety survey
[42:07] so i'd like to invite to make miles and
[42:09] shawnee to come up
[42:11] and uh all council members should
[42:13] actually
[42:14] oops
[42:15] microphones fire microphones yes it
[42:18] should be rubbed right yep
[42:21] all council members should actually have
[42:22] a copy of the survey
[42:25] so
[42:26] yes um and actually we have two other
[42:28] documents to share with you all that
[42:30] we're gonna talk about going to just
[42:32] take the beach and then pass it around
[42:35] oh
[42:36] good evening
[42:38] and uh thank you for the opportunity to
[42:39] be able to share this information with
[42:41] you
[42:42] um
[42:43] it is their community safety survey that
[42:45] we conducted
[42:46] we appreciate the opportunity to share
[42:48] with all of you as we have shared with
[42:50] others
[42:51] um
[42:52] as i think most people in this room know
[42:57] young um were both born and raised here
[42:59] in the city of schenectady and we
[43:00] founded our organization all of us in
[43:03] the city of schenectady
[43:05] what you might not know is actually our
[43:07] organizational bishop which is to
[43:09] support and strengthen marginalized
[43:10] communities in the fight for black
[43:12] liberation
[43:13] and an end to all forms of racism
[43:16] oppression and exploitation and doing so
[43:18] through uniting people across socially
[43:20] created divisions
[43:22] we understand the importance of
[43:23] collective work therefore we have been
[43:26] intentional
[43:27] to develop relationships with other
[43:29] groups and organizations locally and
[43:30] across the state
[43:32] as such all of us as a member of the
[43:34] black freedom project the black media
[43:36] project is a coalition of black
[43:38] organizers and black focused
[43:40] organizations across new york state
[43:43] also known as bfp
[43:44] last native project together with the
[43:46] public science project research team
[43:48] developed this community survey to
[43:51] understand what we as black new yorkers
[43:53] believe keeps us safe and what
[43:54] investments institutions programs and
[43:56] policies would positively impact our
[43:59] communities
[44:00] all of us knows how important a survey
[44:03] dedicating to illuminating the
[44:04] perspectives of black and african
[44:06] american participants is
[44:08] black viewpoints have historically been
[44:10] excluded or underrepresented in most
[44:12] research studies
[44:14] research intentionally focused on the
[44:16] black community makes a unique and
[44:18] important contribution to discussions
[44:20] and planning regarding safety and
[44:22] allocation of resources in the city of
[44:23] schenectady
[44:25] this survey also is about community
[44:27] engagement next slide
[44:30] yeah so
[44:31] as you see on the screen we let people
[44:33] know where to serve will be on specific
[44:35] dates within the community as well as
[44:36] spend time walking in our community our
[44:38] ground game focused primarily on the
[44:40] hamilton hill and mount pleasant
[44:41] neighborhoods we met because we met
[44:43] people where they were at whether
[44:44] walking down the street at home or at
[44:47] local stores and shops throughout the
[44:48] community we share digital flyers on our
[44:50] social media platform and paper ones
[44:52] that community events and political
[44:53] organizations and institutions
[44:55] listed on this slide as you see up there
[44:57] are locations of partners we worked with
[45:00] to reach black people within our
[45:01] community our focus was places of known
[45:04] community gatherings barbershops
[45:06] libraries food pantries community
[45:08] centers etc meeting people where they
[45:10] were at was not just about physical
[45:12] location but also about giving the
[45:14] access and support needed for
[45:15] participating in the survey some folks
[45:17] were
[45:18] comfortable taking surveying on tablets
[45:20] or laptops other preferred hard copy the
[45:22] survey was administered by ourselves and
[45:24] some trained volunteers next slide
[45:26] please
[45:29] the survey results are based on 305
[45:32] black residents in the city of
[45:33] schenectady identified by zip code
[45:36] while there were many different
[45:37] demographics collected within the survey
[45:39] this is the breakdown by age the largest
[45:41] number of respondents as you can see on
[45:43] the screen were between the ages of 36
[45:45] and 45 but there was representation
[45:48] between ages of 16 and up
[45:51] the one other respondent
[45:54] is an individual that even though they
[45:55] originally identified as being at least
[45:57] 16 years old
[45:58] indicated a number that was it was
[46:00] outside the parameters
[46:03] one of the handouts you all received was
[46:05] the list of the other types of
[46:06] demographics that were collected in the
[46:08] survey
[46:09] and it shows not just the questions
[46:11] asked but the inclusiveness of the
[46:14] options for answers as well as the
[46:16] opportunity for individuals to choose
[46:18] not to answer next slide please
[46:22] the very first question which we see
[46:24] here was to confirm that the individual
[46:25] was at least 16 years old and that they
[46:27] identify with black
[46:30] being black does not mean that you do
[46:31] not identify with any other race or
[46:33] ethnicity and individuals included if
[46:36] they did indeed identify with other
[46:37] races or ethnicities
[46:39] we'll quickly go through the next four
[46:41] slides that are the questions the
[46:42] participants were asked and there were
[46:44] questions regarding investments current
[46:47] institutions and policies
[46:49] current institutions and practices and
[46:50] policies next slide
[46:53] they were first asked about the
[46:54] allocation of money next slide
[46:58] what safety means and looks like for
[46:59] people in the black community next life
[47:02] prioritization of policies they were
[47:04] given a list of policies and they were
[47:06] able to choose each policy was in a high
[47:08] priority a medium priority a low
[47:10] priority a policy they didn't want it
[47:12] off or something they were not sure of
[47:14] and also the opportunity to describe
[47:16] their answers what was it they did or
[47:18] didn't like about that policy next slide
[47:22] as you all saw this previously this is
[47:24] the list of those policies that were
[47:26] included in the survey next slide
[47:30] all right so the results of those
[47:32] questions are nets so included are both
[47:35] quantitative and qualitative data now
[47:37] again this was to understand what safe
[47:39] healthy and thriving communities mean to
[47:41] the black community
[47:42] three buckets if you will are investment
[47:45] current institutions and practices and
[47:47] policies next slide please
[47:51] all right so here we have a city budget
[47:52] so when asked to imagine themselves
[47:54] being in charge of the city budget and
[47:55] responsible for reducing a safe and
[47:57] driving community on average schenectady
[48:00] residents that participate in the survey
[48:02] prioritize long-term housing for all and
[48:04] expanding access to healthy food and
[48:06] hunger prevention services next slide
[48:08] please
[48:10] the next three which are all very close
[48:11] in allocation are quality physical and
[48:13] mental health care for all high quality
[48:16] public schools and living wage jobs for
[48:17] people all education levels the constant
[48:20] presence of police and police quit and
[48:21] receive the lowest amount of funding
[48:24] next slide please
[48:27] jails prisons and detention centers now
[48:29] when asked about jail's prison attention
[48:31] centers the great's response was to move
[48:33] away from imprisonment and toward
[48:34] diversity programs such as mentoring
[48:37] programs associative justice programs
[48:38] and job programs
[48:40] yeah no it should have been the next
[48:42] time after this this is where we stayed
[48:44] oh yeah
[48:45] okay so yeah
[48:51] i'm going to tell you to skip three
[48:53] slides ahead
[48:55] there it is that's all right yeah okay
[48:58] so on slides 15-17 75 percent of
[49:01] respondents will prefer a greater
[49:02] emphasis on community-based violence
[49:04] prevention programs that move away from
[49:06] police presence
[49:07] or responses as relates to preventing
[49:09] and responding alignments
[49:15] the next question asked about emergency
[49:16] response in the community 66 are
[49:19] responsible for a greater emphasis on
[49:21] first responders through emergencies
[49:22] that are unarmed and without threat of
[49:24] arrest
[49:25] next slide
[49:27] one more
[49:28] there we go
[49:30] um
[49:31] very hard to read on the screen
[49:33] but also in your packets this is the
[49:35] policy breakdown where they were able to
[49:37] decide high priority medium priority low
[49:39] priority etc etc as was mentioned
[49:43] they were able to choose a different one
[49:44] for each policy for each policy they
[49:46] indicated if it were
[49:48] which priority applied to them
[49:51] when prioritizing policies
[49:53] more jobs for all levels of education
[49:56] with good benefits that pay enough to
[49:57] support a family was a high priority for
[50:00] 85 percent of participants as was more
[50:04] food and nutritional assistance programs
[50:06] to address hunger
[50:08] a high priority for 84 of participants
[50:11] where affordable housing not shelters
[50:14] for families and individuals who become
[50:16] homeless and more money for public
[50:18] schools so that they have the space
[50:20] staff and resources they need to support
[50:22] all their students
[50:24] what we saw in the policies were similar
[50:27] to the allocation of resources next
[50:30] slide
[50:32] we've included a sample a small sample
[50:35] of the comments and written responses
[50:38] for three of the policies that were
[50:40] listed next slide
[50:43] yeah here we have a slightest about
[50:44] affordable housing not sheltered for
[50:46] families and individuals who become
[50:48] homeless now these are what folks have
[50:50] worked on to indicate some ideas about
[50:52] what they meant
[50:53] as you see on the screen
[50:55] folks like there are a lot of homeless
[50:56] people in the city
[50:58] having a safe environment to call home
[51:00] is so important for our community
[51:02] every person is entitled to clean safe
[51:04] living situation
[51:06] the rent is too damn high rent has
[51:08] skyrocketed and is outrageous are part
[51:10] of the comments from the community and
[51:12] what they were thinking
[51:14] next slide
[51:16] it's important to note that none of the
[51:18] comments were altered in any way
[51:20] they are reported as they were written
[51:22] they weren't changed for grammar or
[51:23] spelling or context however it was
[51:26] written that's what they wrote um that's
[51:28] how we recorded it and so for this
[51:30] particular policy it was to remove all
[51:33] forms of policing from public schools
[51:36] and replaced with school counselors
[51:37] psychologists behavioral specialists and
[51:39] trauma therapists
[51:40] again this is a sampling of what was
[51:43] seen within the survey
[51:45] not enough attention is given to the
[51:46] mental impact police presence has in
[51:48] schools
[51:51] in my experience police presence hasn't
[51:53] affected school a lot
[51:55] youth need to have someone listen to
[51:57] them and not judge that they will
[51:59] automatically be violent
[52:02] there's any number of examples that are
[52:05] in this slide that you all had
[52:07] previously
[52:08] and that we collected as part of this
[52:10] survey next slide
[52:14] so this is a larger police presence in
[52:16] the community on public transportation
[52:18] around the city and the schools and et
[52:19] cetera we see other comments from our
[52:22] community
[52:23] um no police presence they do too much
[52:24] harm
[52:26] it's good and bad which is important
[52:28] that's actually a really important point
[52:30] right there so out of all the folks that
[52:32] we gave the survey to there were folks
[52:34] that landed on different sides of
[52:36] talking about whether or not they wanted
[52:37] the police in the community or not but
[52:39] what we did notice a really good
[52:41] takeaway was that no matter who was on
[52:44] that survey on average everyone could
[52:45] all prioritize all these other things as
[52:47] being important to safety uh in their
[52:50] community um so that's really important
[52:51] so you get to see someone here saying
[52:53] good and bad um and you know well
[52:56] coordinated not more so not that it's
[52:58] about you know not having this at all
[53:01] but that they need to be well glory and
[53:02] they're addressing nature when they can
[53:04] next slide
[53:07] so what are the next steps
[53:08] we spent weeks talking to community
[53:11] members being really intentional about
[53:13] where we went
[53:14] from november through january the
[53:17] research the information that we
[53:18] gathered and then went to the research
[53:19] team in new york city they compiled the
[53:22] data and sent it back to us
[53:24] and when we started the survey we made a
[53:26] commitment to share the results back out
[53:28] with the community as well as other
[53:29] stakeholders
[53:30] as an example we presented the results
[53:32] to the police chief representatives from
[53:35] each of his departments
[53:37] as part of the continuing research that
[53:39] we are doing we are facilitating
[53:41] data-driven focus groups we actually
[53:43] held our first one on april 7th
[53:46] back at sikkim and we'll continue to go
[53:48] back to the locations where we started
[53:50] we'll go back to
[53:52] city michigan go back to the seat center
[53:54] we'll go back to the libraries in both
[53:56] hamilton hill and mount pleasant because
[53:58] those were the two major focuses of our
[54:00] area
[54:04] that's it so we'll take any questions
[54:06] but we look forward to the opportunity
[54:07] to be able to continue to share with you
[54:09] the false ideas concerns from community
[54:11] members supporting you and your mission
[54:13] to move forward policies and resources
[54:14] that represent the interest of the
[54:16] residents you serve
[54:18] it's really important and that last
[54:20] piece that i wrote there is about a
[54:21] community engagement how often are their
[54:24] who we're talking to and the
[54:25] conversation we're able to bring back to
[54:27] you all over suppressing the needs of
[54:28] the community it's not
[54:30] been seen at least in my you know it's
[54:32] my time here that there's been surveys
[54:33] like this and the type of engagement
[54:35] necessary to really
[54:37] hear from the community in the ways that
[54:38] actually have an impact
[54:40] any questions
[54:45] so i wanted to first thank you both of
[54:47] you for the efforts and investments you
[54:48] made into this survey
[54:50] as a person that took this uh and
[54:52] identified as a cisgender male who was a
[54:55] black schenectadian it was a mouthful
[54:58] in no way did i interpret oh your
[55:00] presentation has an all-encompassing
[55:03] gauge of all things affecting every
[55:05] single black person within this
[55:06] community how i internalized your words
[55:09] was more or less as a guide to help us
[55:12] define some areas that we could
[55:13] potentially address and have more of a
[55:16] pulse towards towards directing our
[55:18] efforts
[55:19] so with that there are a number of steps
[55:21] that are being being taken at this
[55:23] moment throughout the city
[55:25] what is the frequency of this survey to
[55:26] potentially grade the efforts that are
[55:29] undertaken
[55:31] i mean that's part of our future
[55:32] planning right the the work that i
[55:35] particularly have been doing for more
[55:37] than 10 years is to be a constant
[55:39] presence in this city that i was born
[55:41] and raised in
[55:42] to talk to community members and find
[55:44] out what's going on
[55:46] education and and safety are two of our
[55:49] main priorities as an organization um
[55:52] and so
[55:53] it is a bit of cyclical work right um to
[55:57] have these conversations find out what
[55:58] the community is saying and what's in
[56:01] their best interest based on their their
[56:03] needs on the lived experiences and as
[56:06] well as the data that we've seen from
[56:07] across the nation
[56:09] bring it back and then go have
[56:11] continuing conversations those focus
[56:13] groups so
[56:15] if there are particular things that we
[56:17] see arise we're then able to continue to
[56:20] work with the research team and create
[56:22] other surveys and have conversations um
[56:24] they've been a wonderful resource and
[56:26] they continue to support the work
[56:28] and i'll just i'll add to the you know
[56:30] one of the things that's an issue with
[56:32] addressing um
[56:34] things in the community is the
[56:35] consistency in which we're actually
[56:36] speaking with our community members and
[56:38] engaging them enough and what the issues
[56:40] are happening that we don't do it enough
[56:42] um for more opportunities to do that but
[56:45] actually um one of the cars that we have
[56:47] is coming back with the information that
[56:49] we gathered in our community um through
[56:51] community focus groups we already had
[56:52] one um at sycamore another one
[56:54] electricity bar and the libraries just
[56:57] so that like so one of the things that
[56:58] does is allow us one to like uh
[57:02] um give to the community the words that
[57:04] are from that community like we're going
[57:06] to put flowers up for people that take a
[57:07] survey to come back out here kind of
[57:09] these are results of that um and it's
[57:11] important to do that right so that we're
[57:13] engaged and that we act as a community
[57:16] that we're not we're not in this by
[57:18] ourselves right one of the things i tell
[57:19] a lot of people is that when you step
[57:21] outside of your house um you walk onto
[57:23] that sidewalk you go to a store like
[57:24] this belongs to you this is your city um
[57:27] it's a collective ownership but it
[57:29] belongs to all the same have some say so
[57:31] how this thing goes for you and having
[57:32] fun something we didn't mention that i
[57:34] think is important and we should have is
[57:36] that when we go back out to share this
[57:39] information
[57:40] everyone is welcome to come
[57:43] so when we were back at sikkim it wasn't
[57:45] just individuals that took the survey
[57:47] there were other individuals in the room
[57:48] there were also individuals that took
[57:50] the survey and could speak from their
[57:51] personal experience taking the survey
[57:53] and then hearing those results but there
[57:55] were other community partners as well
[57:57] bob carroll from the skype foundation
[57:59] was there
[58:01] tom from sicko was there so those
[58:04] partners being able to be part of that
[58:06] conversation as we share the information
[58:08] back out and then hearing their
[58:10] responses because we have that as well
[58:12] we have those um responses for
[58:15] what they said at that meeting which i
[58:16] believe is the other um
[58:18] yeah
[58:23] i have a question so you identified some
[58:24] things and what immediately came to my
[58:26] mind was about jobs and that was an
[58:28] important thing so
[58:29] since that was identified as such a high
[58:31] priority what steps are you actually
[58:33] taking to address that
[58:36] with other groups or however however
[58:38] you're facilitating that i mean when it
[58:40] comes to policies right there there are
[58:43] some very broad things listed
[58:45] and so part of those focus groups is
[58:47] then identifying down where do these
[58:50] community members see a potential for
[58:53] that to be addressed
[58:54] because one of the wonderful things
[58:56] about going out and talking to the
[58:57] community is that they are filled with
[58:58] ideas
[59:00] they have the answers to the problems
[59:02] it's just that no one's ever asked them
[59:04] so as part of these focus groups it's
[59:06] okay so if we say jobs what does that
[59:08] mean but is
[59:09] that focus group
[59:11] pulling in on that particular issue we
[59:13] were at sikkim so a lot of conversation
[59:16] around food as well as housing
[59:19] some of the other conversations that
[59:20] have been had about jobs is how do we
[59:24] create support
[59:25] for people to move into careers as a
[59:28] pathway
[59:30] your favorite example is um whenever we
[59:34] have construction here in the city how
[59:36] are we ensuring that our own residents
[59:39] are actually getting those jobs and that
[59:41] money stays here in the community how
[59:43] can we foster that what does that look
[59:45] like in addition to that like we've had
[59:47] a conversation with folks with cnn
[59:50] workforce initiative um and other like
[59:53] um
[59:54] uh the map program already something i
[59:56] spoke about here about and it's in the
[59:58] map program is a multi-architectural
[1:00:00] pre-apprenticeship program and it just
[1:00:02] meets people in the community where
[1:00:03] they're at as far as i understand what
[1:00:04] the construction trades it's a stipend
[1:00:06] six month program learning the basis of
[1:00:08] construction and another four month
[1:00:10] disciplinary program on whatever whether
[1:00:13] it's uh roofing or electrical work or
[1:00:15] whatever um that's stipend and then
[1:00:17] there's a partnership with the union
[1:00:18] that gets them jobs working on
[1:00:20] initiatives in the community to help
[1:00:22] revitalize it so those are the
[1:00:23] conversations we're having and we'd love
[1:00:24] to see actually have again it's
[1:00:26] connected so we're doing our work there
[1:00:29] to bring those type of ideas here and
[1:00:30] just have that conversation into the
[1:00:32] community
[1:00:34] any other questions
[1:00:38] well thank you very much for coming in
[1:00:39] for sharing this information and if the
[1:00:41] public wanted to see this is this a
[1:00:43] public document that people can access
[1:00:45] to so we haven't yet posted it online um
[1:00:48] we're trying to figure out what's the best way the most accessible way to
[1:00:52] do that dropping it in the google drive
[1:00:54] isn't always necessarily
[1:00:56] best fit right now
[1:00:58] we were able to share it out
[1:01:00] electronically i had to fix a couple
[1:01:02] typos so
[1:01:03] it's coming
[1:01:05] and
[1:01:06] if anyone is interested and want to copy
[1:01:08] they can email us
[1:01:10] free gmail.com
[1:01:11] well thank you very much for coming
[1:01:13] appreciate it
[1:01:24] i would like to call the public safety
[1:01:25] committee to order we have one item on
[1:01:27] the agenda today that is the school
[1:01:29] community engagement officer and that
[1:01:31] will be presented by either chief
[1:01:33] quicker or ac and or right
[1:01:59] okay
[1:02:06] um
[1:02:21] all right
[1:02:23] microphone
[1:02:24] no no but staying as close to this one
[1:02:26] as you can
[1:02:28] alright over here
[1:02:30] okay well good evening and thank you for
[1:02:32] having me um i put together a powerpoint
[1:02:35] presentation
[1:02:36] i have chief whipple with me and i also
[1:02:38] have sergeant lin here with me also
[1:02:40] and if any members of the council has
[1:02:43] questions
[1:02:44] but
[1:02:45] we're here to talk about community
[1:02:46] engagement officer which is a
[1:02:49] truly a partnership between the school
[1:02:51] district
[1:02:52] and the and the police department
[1:02:54] now
[1:02:56] it's important to start off with
[1:02:59] new york state governor's executive
[1:03:01] order 203 which was
[1:03:04] brought to us two years ago by governor
[1:03:06] cuomo
[1:03:08] and the recommendations uh derived from
[1:03:11] the collaboration that was held in
[1:03:14] response to that executive order which
[1:03:16] was then ratified by the city council on
[1:03:18] may 22 march 22nd of 2021
[1:03:21] signed by mayor mccarthy on march 31st
[1:03:24] and submitted to the state included
[1:03:26] two recommendations that were that really embodied community
[1:03:31] engagement and those were the creation
[1:03:34] of a community engagement officer
[1:03:36] uh unit of officers that received
[1:03:39] specialized training in the areas of
[1:03:40] harm reduction in addition to community
[1:03:42] health initiative training
[1:03:44] building a model
[1:03:46] within community policing where these
[1:03:48] officers will work to reduce the
[1:03:49] negative consequences of using drugs
[1:03:51] while understanding that an individual
[1:03:53] may not immediately stop
[1:03:55] that model was really specifically
[1:03:58] towards creating a unit that would go
[1:04:01] out and focus on harm reduction within
[1:04:03] our community but then number 18 of the
[1:04:05] recommendations was to expand our
[1:04:08] community policing efforts
[1:04:10] on the staff department to allow for
[1:04:11] community policing unit that will build
[1:04:14] neighborhood collaborations to build
[1:04:16] trust solve problems and reduce crime
[1:04:19] so that was put into the recommendations
[1:04:24] so why do we need police in schools
[1:04:26] that's why we're here today talking
[1:04:29] um many members of our community have
[1:04:31] asked that question i want to start off
[1:04:33] by saying that on any given day
[1:04:35] population of scentsy high school
[1:04:37] is approximately 2 800 students and
[1:04:40] staff
[1:04:41] in illinois middle school that number is
[1:04:44] approximately 780
[1:04:46] mount pleasant 870 steinmetz 315 central
[1:04:50] park middle school 800 and that's just
[1:04:53] those schools right there
[1:04:55] so concentrated populations
[1:04:57] of any of this size anywhere within the
[1:05:00] city
[1:05:01] would always be met with a threat
[1:05:03] assessment from the police department
[1:05:05] and we're talking about internal and
[1:05:07] external sources of that kind of
[1:05:10] population all coming together
[1:05:13] now the city of santa fe school district
[1:05:15] has had a history of police related
[1:05:17] issues
[1:05:18] that have been a concern to the police
[1:05:19] department leadership
[1:05:21] over the last few years and i brought
[1:05:23] those issues to
[1:05:25] former superintendent larry sprang
[1:05:27] and most recently uh superintendent
[1:05:29] annabal
[1:05:32] the concerns we had were that the staff
[1:05:36] had been discouraged from contacting the
[1:05:38] police
[1:05:39] this is feedback we got directly from
[1:05:41] the staff
[1:05:42] teachers administrators support workers
[1:05:45] there were incidents that were not
[1:05:46] reported to the police assaults that
[1:05:48] occurred in the school
[1:05:50] past assault disclosures
[1:05:53] threats
[1:05:54] menacing
[1:05:57] students coming into the school with
[1:05:58] weapons
[1:05:59] not being reported
[1:06:01] investigations that were of criminal
[1:06:03] nature
[1:06:04] i'm sorry investigations that involved
[1:06:07] that of a crime
[1:06:08] that were the investigations were
[1:06:10] started and completed
[1:06:12] prior to reporting it to the police
[1:06:16] fights
[1:06:17] in
[1:06:18] or near the schools
[1:06:20] lunchtime
[1:06:21] sergeant linear can expand more on that
[1:06:23] but lunchtime many fights in the schools
[1:06:26] um and then in the neighboring community
[1:06:28] outside of the school
[1:06:31] and not specifically the high school but
[1:06:33] other schools like oneida and mount
[1:06:35] pleasant middle school
[1:06:37] persons with mental health disorder in
[1:06:40] the school district
[1:06:41] um not always having local crisis unit
[1:06:44] within the school
[1:06:45] available to be utilized
[1:06:48] trespassing
[1:06:50] of suspended students excel students
[1:06:53] parents of students coming into the
[1:06:55] school
[1:06:56] trespassers with no affiliation like
[1:06:58] students from other schools
[1:07:01] and then other and then students leaving
[1:07:03] school grounds
[1:07:04] um and engaging
[1:07:06] in an activity outside the school
[1:07:08] district that would receive that would
[1:07:10] prompt people to call the police
[1:07:12] it's important to note that many of
[1:07:14] these concerns almost all of them
[1:07:17] were noted and brought to us before our
[1:07:19] global pandemic of 2020 and when the
[1:07:22] pandemic hit in school shut down it kind
[1:07:25] of
[1:07:25] hit pause for us
[1:07:28] so
[1:07:29] i had a report generated and everything
[1:07:31] that was going to go to superintendent
[1:07:32] spring and then the pandemic had
[1:07:35] but when the same pattern emerged in the
[1:07:37] first two months of this school year
[1:07:39] 2021
[1:07:40] i called for a meeting with
[1:07:42] superintendent solaire
[1:07:44] and he brought his leadership staff in
[1:07:46] so we could discuss this issue
[1:07:49] and that is when a partnership was
[1:07:51] formed
[1:07:52] to see
[1:07:53] the
[1:07:56] partnership was formed to solve what was
[1:07:58] seen as a safety crisis that was
[1:07:59] developing within the school district
[1:08:03] so the concept that we came up with that
[1:08:06] we agreed that police were needed to
[1:08:08] help solve the safety uh crisis that was
[1:08:11] developing
[1:08:12] but we would need to meet and look at
[1:08:17] what that would look like what our role
[1:08:18] will be in the schools
[1:08:20] so the leadership of the school district
[1:08:21] and the leadership of the police
[1:08:22] department we collaborated on many
[1:08:24] meetings to discuss the needs of the
[1:08:27] school district community
[1:08:29] we conceptualized the community
[1:08:31] engagement model
[1:08:33] the one that i just explained to you
[1:08:34] that was derived out of the executive
[1:08:37] order 203
[1:08:40] and what was needed within the school
[1:08:41] district itself
[1:08:44] that police officers would have to be
[1:08:45] specially trained
[1:08:46] [Music]
[1:08:48] and that we would want to make sure that
[1:08:50] we
[1:08:51] not only provided them the training that
[1:08:55] teachers and administrators in the
[1:08:56] school district were getting but that
[1:08:58] we're also going to reach out to
[1:09:00] industry leaders
[1:09:01] in the school resource officer training
[1:09:03] field and get them the training also
[1:09:06] so a true partnership form meeting with
[1:09:08] mayor mccarthy and superintendent
[1:09:10] solaire
[1:09:12] it was agreed upon that the school
[1:09:13] district
[1:09:15] that officers in the school benefited
[1:09:16] the city
[1:09:17] and school district equally so the cost
[1:09:20] of the program should be shared equally
[1:09:24] one of my uh one of my requirements for
[1:09:27] this to happen was accountability
[1:09:30] we recognize that um
[1:09:32] nobody wants to be placed you know
[1:09:35] in our perfect world police aren't even
[1:09:37] needed
[1:09:38] um and that the presence of the police
[1:09:40] officers may make some students
[1:09:41] uncomfortable
[1:09:43] and to get past that
[1:09:44] we're going to build trust we're going
[1:09:46] to be
[1:09:47] really focused on building trucks
[1:09:49] i'm sorry building
[1:09:51] trust
[1:09:52] officers need to be held accountable to
[1:09:54] meet the needs of the student population
[1:09:56] and deliver that
[1:09:58] consistent level of service to the
[1:09:59] population over time
[1:10:02] to accomplish this consistent
[1:10:04] supervision would be necessary to
[1:10:06] accelerate that trust building that's
[1:10:08] why i asked for a
[1:10:11] um a sergeant to be well i i required a
[1:10:14] sergeant be placed
[1:10:15] in the school district
[1:10:17] pilot program to start off
[1:10:20] so the plan
[1:10:22] this is a map of the city that's
[1:10:24] connected with all the schools
[1:10:26] and the plan that we came up with was
[1:10:29] two officers in the high school
[1:10:32] you just got to hit the buttons
[1:10:34] to also in high school
[1:10:36] and then the other school dish the
[1:10:38] schools that we were really focused on
[1:10:39] were the two the four middle schools
[1:10:45] mount pleasant middle school not
[1:10:46] pleasant valley middle school is
[1:10:48] not named correctly that's an elementary
[1:10:51] school so we were focused on those
[1:10:52] middle schools
[1:10:54] and then we didn't want to forget the
[1:10:55] elementary schools
[1:11:00] there's a whole bunch of them
[1:11:04] so
[1:11:05] taking all the schools into account
[1:11:10] again the plan really was came down to
[1:11:12] that we would want a sergeant to oversee
[1:11:15] this whole program
[1:11:16] we would put two officers in the high
[1:11:18] school because the population was 2800
[1:11:22] we would then place one officer that
[1:11:24] would be
[1:11:25] assigned to
[1:11:27] oneida middle school and central park
[1:11:29] middle school one officer for both
[1:11:31] schools go back and forth and be there
[1:11:34] to meet the needs of the community as
[1:11:36] needed
[1:11:37] one officer from mount pleasant middle
[1:11:39] school and
[1:11:41] steinbeck's career leadership academy
[1:11:44] and washington irving that will
[1:11:45] basically meet the needs of those three
[1:11:47] there
[1:11:48] and
[1:11:49] [Music]
[1:11:50] the sergeant would be a floater to float
[1:11:52] between them as needed and then we would
[1:11:55] have
[1:11:56] one officer that would go
[1:11:58] to float between all of the elementary
[1:12:01] schools
[1:12:03] and that's how we got to the number of
[1:12:04] six
[1:12:08] the cost of 100 000 plus benefits
[1:12:14] that was the number that was used to
[1:12:16] calculate the share of expense and the
[1:12:18] easy math is
[1:12:20] sharing 100 dollars that's 50 000
[1:12:23] for the school 50 000 for the city
[1:12:26] but
[1:12:27] as the years go on and raise it in cost
[1:12:30] increase approximate raises we built in
[1:12:33] a two percent increase so
[1:12:35] year two would be a hundred and two
[1:12:36] thousand
[1:12:38] fifty percent of each fifty one thousand
[1:12:40] year three
[1:12:41] two percent on top of that so year three
[1:12:43] would be fifty two thousand twenty each
[1:12:46] now this agreement maintains that all
[1:12:48] over time associated with working in
[1:12:50] schools
[1:12:51] such as
[1:12:52] varsity uh games
[1:12:55] dances things like that
[1:12:57] paid 100 by the district which is our
[1:12:59] current arrangement so those those
[1:13:02] numbers were simply just for staffing
[1:13:04] during school days
[1:13:08] so that's the cost so what's the benefit
[1:13:14] that i see
[1:13:16] is building the building of bonds
[1:13:17] between students and officers and what they do they lead to they lead to
[1:13:21] an improved sense of safety
[1:13:23] inside the school outside the school we
[1:13:25] want students and staff and faculty to
[1:13:28] feel safe in
[1:13:31] it school benefit by having improved
[1:13:33] interaction with police officers for
[1:13:35] students they will become familiar with
[1:13:37] police officers you'll feel comfortable
[1:13:39] going up to them whether it's
[1:13:41] inside school or outside the school
[1:13:43] they'll have a better understanding of
[1:13:45] them by the mutual respect
[1:13:49] i personally have experienced
[1:13:52] cases where
[1:13:54] back when we had school resource
[1:13:56] officers they got to know the student
[1:13:58] body so well it paid dividends years
[1:14:01] into the future i'd be out on calls
[1:14:03] where situations were tense and those
[1:14:06] officers that were school resource
[1:14:07] officers were able to go in there and
[1:14:09] comp things down simply because they
[1:14:11] knew the person
[1:14:12] that was possibly being problematic or
[1:14:14] they knew one of the complaints and they
[1:14:16] were able to uh ease tension so
[1:14:19] that familiarity to me is one of the
[1:14:22] biggest benefits
[1:14:23] and it's an investment that
[1:14:26] goes into the future you know
[1:14:29] students that are 10 years old now will
[1:14:31] know police officers the rest of their
[1:14:32] lives
[1:14:34] students who trust officers will bring
[1:14:36] problems to them that they have for
[1:14:38] justice guidance for counseling
[1:14:41] that's another important piece is that
[1:14:44] we want access to the police department
[1:14:46] to be there for for the students if they
[1:14:48] need it they don't feel comfortable
[1:14:49] giving it at home or being able to call
[1:14:52] and get police officers
[1:14:56] and and then the last benefit really is
[1:14:58] for the school
[1:14:59] to reduce reduce need for for police
[1:15:02] being called to the schools
[1:15:04] they um
[1:15:06] they get priority service in the schools
[1:15:09] what the benefit for the school is for
[1:15:11] the for the city
[1:15:14] we're going to have
[1:15:15] problems
[1:15:16] dealt with
[1:15:17] before they become bigger
[1:15:19] nip it in the mud
[1:15:21] be able to address things before they
[1:15:23] turn into a police call
[1:15:25] and
[1:15:28] basically pay it forward within the
[1:15:30] school
[1:15:31] system itself as far as taking care of
[1:15:33] themselves policing themselves
[1:15:40] we started we recognized the lead in
[1:15:43] september
[1:15:45] and october that's when our discussion
[1:15:47] phase was we implemented this program in
[1:15:50] november you'll see the calls for
[1:15:52] service were
[1:15:54] 11217 those two months respectfully
[1:15:57] they the pilot program starts they drop
[1:15:59] down to 68 they go up to 89 57 61.80 so
[1:16:04] there is a reduction in the calls for
[1:16:06] service that originated from the school
[1:16:08] district with the implementation of the
[1:16:10] pilot program which was just simply two
[1:16:13] officers
[1:16:17] so our request before you now would be
[1:16:23] as part of our police reform and
[1:16:25] reinvention collaborative
[1:16:27] texas county police department and the
[1:16:29] city school district wish to enter into
[1:16:30] an agreement for the police department
[1:16:32] to provide up to six officers five
[1:16:35] officers and one sergeant as community
[1:16:37] engagement officers assigned to the
[1:16:39] designated city schools
[1:16:43] this uh this agreement would take the
[1:16:44] effect july 1st and run through june
[1:16:47] 30th 2023
[1:16:50] it is for a total of six officers but
[1:16:52] our phase one would be
[1:16:54] to add
[1:16:55] three officers immediately
[1:17:00] and then at the beginning of 2023
[1:17:02] september of 23
[1:17:04] to add those additional three officers
[1:17:08] we had to do this to get them properly
[1:17:10] trained i can't just take six officers
[1:17:12] out of my staffing that i currently have
[1:17:15] and we would request that
[1:17:17] for the 2022 budget that i add those
[1:17:20] three positions
[1:17:22] that is a budget neutral
[1:17:24] um request
[1:17:26] because the amount of money that we
[1:17:28] would receive
[1:17:30] from the school district should cover
[1:17:31] the cost of the officers going to the
[1:17:33] police academy to replace the officers
[1:17:36] that are in schools
[1:17:37] and then we would be making this another
[1:17:40] an additional request for the three in
[1:17:42] our 23 2023 budget request
[1:17:47] that is your comment
[1:17:51] thank you and we will uh open it up to
[1:17:53] any questions at this time
[1:17:56] thank you and thank you ac
[1:17:58] um
[1:17:59] i think it's appropriate to hear from
[1:18:01] our resource officer that's here uh if
[1:18:04] unless there any objections would you
[1:18:05] mind coming up to the front and talking
[1:18:07] about a typical day
[1:18:11] it's briefly summarizing i imagine it
[1:18:13] came from that
[1:18:14] so so the days vary based on the needs
[1:18:16] of the district um
[1:18:19] uh early on i mean me and officer rivera
[1:18:22] usually sign in the kids that are in
[1:18:24] school late and then it's responding on
[1:18:28] a neat basis so
[1:18:29] um
[1:18:30] you know we have to keep in mind there's
[1:18:33] 17
[1:18:34] uh different schools within the district
[1:18:37] so you know they could be initial uh you
[1:18:40] know child major disclosure at mount
[1:18:42] pleasant middle school or
[1:18:44] howe elementary um they range between
[1:18:48] you know we've had threats written on
[1:18:49] the wall specifics as it relates to
[1:18:52] um you know
[1:18:55] whether they say they're gonna
[1:18:57] cause harm at uh on a circle at a
[1:19:00] certain school at a certain time so you
[1:19:02] know
[1:19:03] it it varies i mean i've talked to
[1:19:06] staff members about
[1:19:08] the eviction process
[1:19:12] and
[1:19:13] again it just depends on the day
[1:19:16] good thank you
[1:19:19] are there any questions from my fellow
[1:19:21] council members mr mutaver
[1:19:24] chief you you mentioned uh this one
[1:19:25] question i was gonna mention that money
[1:19:27] the reimbursement receipt you're gonna
[1:19:29] receive from the school will turn back
[1:19:30] into hiring additional uh staffing so
[1:19:33] that would be incremental as you are
[1:19:34] putting stuff into the school district
[1:19:37] you're going to use that reimbursement
[1:19:38] to hire additional staff or you are even
[1:19:40] going to do that one time next year
[1:19:44] the additional
[1:19:46] fighter
[1:19:48] the
[1:19:51] we would put the more senior officers in
[1:19:53] the school and we would hire officers
[1:19:54] train them those officers that would
[1:19:57] then go on the street and staff our our
[1:19:59] streets are typically the lower paid
[1:20:01] ones until they get the seniority and
[1:20:04] they rise up step so
[1:20:05] the uh the model that we have built out
[1:20:07] which is that the that they're sharing
[1:20:10] the cost of the officer we're giving
[1:20:11] them
[1:20:12] you know it covers a lot a large amount of the
[1:20:15] cost of the officer that is replacing
[1:20:17] them with also that's why it's
[1:20:19] considered budget neutral this this year
[1:20:21] and
[1:20:22] when you build it up maybe
[1:20:24] 10 years from now it's a different
[1:20:26] conversation but for right now
[1:20:29] it's um you know
[1:20:31] it it does it there's not a heavy lift
[1:20:32] from the department from uh from finance
[1:20:34] end
[1:20:36] so the cost that you quoted here is the
[1:20:37] senior officer
[1:20:39] pretty much yeah
[1:20:41] yes
[1:20:42] and you also mentioned that you will be
[1:20:43] hiring senior officer into the school
[1:20:45] district
[1:20:46] my one of my concerns is that um
[1:20:49] when you can be hiring senior officer in
[1:20:51] the contract it says
[1:20:52] recommendation of the pba the mayor and
[1:20:54] you i would also like to see the officer
[1:20:57] who has experience dealing with youth
[1:21:00] you know several years over the course
[1:21:02] of being a police department we consider
[1:21:05] placement here
[1:21:08] yeah the the way our system works is
[1:21:11] that
[1:21:12] we have a seniority system with a police
[1:21:14] department for for the control level so
[1:21:17] when a job opens up we bid it for for
[1:21:20] senior and the senior bidder gets the
[1:21:22] opportunity to interview
[1:21:24] so
[1:21:25] um
[1:21:26] so through that process
[1:21:29] we we find out who the most senior
[1:21:30] person is and then we take a look at
[1:21:32] them and interview them and if we don't
[1:21:34] feel that they're the right fit then we
[1:21:36] move on to the next one you know we have
[1:21:38] that discussion and then we have the
[1:21:40] additional layer of sending them before
[1:21:42] the school board
[1:21:44] administration the school administration
[1:21:46] to
[1:21:47] um for them to give approval also
[1:21:53] so i'd like to follow up on that so um i
[1:21:55] know that you said because i read here
[1:21:56] that you do result in collective
[1:21:58] bargaining which is clearly seniority
[1:22:00] etc but um are there instances or some
[1:22:03] things that you do that are merit based
[1:22:04] positions
[1:22:05] um and because i share mr muda baron's
[1:22:09] um concern with that we want officers
[1:22:12] who i mean it takes a certain amount of
[1:22:14] temperament it takes a certain
[1:22:15] temperament to work with young people
[1:22:17] on a day-to-day basis um so is there a
[1:22:21] possibility that there can be a
[1:22:22] merit-based system so that officers are
[1:22:24] chosen as opposed to
[1:22:26] um
[1:22:27] just doing it by seniority because
[1:22:29] frankly looking at looking at it from
[1:22:31] eight to four is is a pretty nice shift
[1:22:34] and in the schools so um and maybe i
[1:22:36] make it sound easier than it really is
[1:22:38] but it's it's a shift that people may
[1:22:40] bid on words as opposed to being out in
[1:22:42] the street so
[1:22:43] um you know i go back to is is merit
[1:22:46] based an opportunity for pete for um
[1:22:48] this as opposed to
[1:22:50] just based on seniority
[1:22:53] we have some jobs in our department that
[1:22:55] are merit-based those were derived
[1:22:58] through
[1:22:59] the negotiation process with the pba
[1:23:01] i think that before we um i'll refer to the mayor on this before
[1:23:06] we go too deep into that conversation it
[1:23:08] might be something more for
[1:23:10] executive session to discuss
[1:23:12] than do it publicly
[1:23:16] i would agree with the chief even though
[1:23:18] the pba has been
[1:23:21] [Music]
[1:23:23] a partner in this in terms of discussion
[1:23:25] trying to get the right people there
[1:23:28] and you know you saw from the chart you
[1:23:30] have to understand we're putting police
[1:23:33] in the schools
[1:23:35] every day now
[1:23:37] those are calls for service they aren't
[1:23:39] just stopping there randomly it's
[1:23:42] somebody's dialing 9-1-1 reaching out to
[1:23:44] the police department we're sending a
[1:23:46] car
[1:23:47] so this allows officers to be assigned
[1:23:50] to
[1:23:51] the school district so they're building
[1:23:54] a better rapport a more functional
[1:23:56] knowledge of who the leadership is
[1:23:58] within
[1:23:59] each individual building and then also
[1:24:02] rapport with the students
[1:24:05] and i think it's a better way to respond
[1:24:07] to those calls and you saw
[1:24:09] it's still preliminary data but we had
[1:24:11] two
[1:24:12] fairly active ones when the
[1:24:14] officers are assigned there you see that
[1:24:17] start to drop in the earlier months on
[1:24:19] that chart you have to remember covet is
[1:24:21] there so that the baseline is skewed
[1:24:25] but
[1:24:26] i think just going forward
[1:24:29] it's better to have these officers there
[1:24:32] than having somebody
[1:24:34] who would be randomly dispatched there
[1:24:36] based on the configuration that we use
[1:24:39] in the street
[1:24:40] where you can't always guarantee
[1:24:42] the officer with the training
[1:24:45] unique to the school is going to go
[1:24:46] there
[1:24:48] and it's an evolutionary model
[1:24:52] it's
[1:24:54] one that
[1:24:55] i think is going to pay off
[1:24:58] good dividends it's part of the reform
[1:25:00] package
[1:25:01] and the dialogue has been
[1:25:04] one that i'll call just dynamic so we're
[1:25:06] looking at how do you do it better how
[1:25:08] do you engage
[1:25:10] students how do we better
[1:25:12] serve the public as a whole
[1:25:14] and
[1:25:16] if we can drop those calls down to zero
[1:25:18] would be the ideal
[1:25:20] end game
[1:25:22] but yes there are some components where
[1:25:24] you get into an executive session
[1:25:26] if the council would like to do that or
[1:25:29] just follow up discussions
[1:25:31] uh depending on what specific questions
[1:25:34] there are i do have oh sorry i haven't
[1:25:36] had further questions so currently you
[1:25:38] have two officers in the schools yes
[1:25:40] just two and were they chosen for
[1:25:42] through the collective bargaining system
[1:25:44] they were the senior bidders
[1:25:46] so other people been but they were the
[1:25:48] highest okay um
[1:25:51] and also when when we did the reform and
[1:25:53] reinvention which this came out of that
[1:25:56] were community engagement officers were
[1:25:57] the was the intent for them to be in
[1:25:59] school was that the intent when we when
[1:26:01] that piece of the legislation the plan
[1:26:04] was passed no okay no um it was um it
[1:26:08] was part of the process of sitting down
[1:26:10] with the superintendent and his
[1:26:11] leadership staff and we started talking
[1:26:13] about our reinforcement reinvention
[1:26:15] collaborative and the idea behind the
[1:26:17] community engagement officer and he
[1:26:20] really liked that idea that's why we
[1:26:22] chose the name rather than school
[1:26:23] resource officer
[1:26:24] is that um you know we knew that we
[1:26:27] wanted to engage more with the community
[1:26:29] he knew that he wanted us there
[1:26:32] for a variety of different reasons
[1:26:34] and we just felt that it it it really
[1:26:38] it wasn't exact fit but it was a fit
[1:26:40] there
[1:26:41] and and just to go back to the officers
[1:26:44] um and and
[1:26:46] them getting the job through the
[1:26:47] seniority process
[1:26:49] i like to tell i like to say that it's
[1:26:51] my job it's chief whipple's job
[1:26:54] to make sure that every officer working
[1:26:56] for us is going to be
[1:26:58] regardless of how they get the job
[1:27:00] appropriate to go into the police
[1:27:01] department go into the schools like i
[1:27:03] don't want to just find that diamond in
[1:27:05] the rough police officer going to
[1:27:06] schools i want every single one of my
[1:27:08] officers that works the street to be
[1:27:10] acceptable to go into the schools and
[1:27:12] that's what that's what we work for
[1:27:14] every day
[1:27:20] um
[1:27:21] in terms of the training that the
[1:27:22] officers um i believe that there's like
[1:27:24] a more comprehensive training that the
[1:27:26] safety team undergoes
[1:27:28] can you talk a little bit about that
[1:27:30] process in terms of some of the topics
[1:27:32] and presenters that that meet with
[1:27:35] the team
[1:27:36] um and do the training
[1:27:38] i mean the training that's above and
[1:27:39] beyond
[1:27:40] you know the police training
[1:27:42] um
[1:27:44] i'm not i'm not very familiar with this
[1:27:46] sergeant might be i'll help out a little
[1:27:48] bit with it i know that there's an
[1:27:49] organization called nasro national
[1:27:51] association of resource officers it's a
[1:27:54] basic school
[1:27:55] resource officer training we do plan on
[1:27:58] sending our officers there to that
[1:27:59] training
[1:28:00] and i know that there's other training
[1:28:03] that has been put on by the school
[1:28:05] district and by the school safety
[1:28:06] director jeff russo that they've already
[1:28:08] gone to
[1:28:10] um and they're invited to
[1:28:12] it was the therapeutic crisis
[1:28:14] intervention um that was you know given
[1:28:16] by their put on that their staff at the
[1:28:20] district um
[1:28:22] they take
[1:28:24] we completed that with their school
[1:28:26] psychologists
[1:28:27] one of the school counselors and
[1:28:29] a master social worker
[1:28:34] and i have another question thank you um
[1:28:37] the other
[1:28:39] i have a concern that this that the
[1:28:41] officers have to float among the schools
[1:28:43] as opposed to
[1:28:45] officers that might be
[1:28:46] assigned to specific schools and i guess
[1:28:49] again um
[1:28:50] you know have you found that challenging
[1:28:52] that you have to be in many different
[1:28:54] places on any on any given given day
[1:28:58] can you join us up here sorry it looks
[1:29:00] like it's going to be a few questions
[1:29:01] for you
[1:29:02] because then you'll be on the camera the
[1:29:04] public seats
[1:29:07] yeah and that's what you know the pilot
[1:29:09] program right you know with two officers
[1:29:11] and in 17 different schools
[1:29:14] uh you know made for some busy days you
[1:29:16] know addressing the needs at the
[1:29:19] different campuses
[1:29:20] but you know that's what that's what
[1:29:22] we've been tasked with and i think
[1:29:25] that's
[1:29:26] you know collectively the school
[1:29:27] district you know saw the need for
[1:29:29] additional um offices to handle that
[1:29:32] workload
[1:29:34] so
[1:29:35] you know
[1:29:36] that's how we're handling it now and you
[1:29:39] know there's some emergencies that you
[1:29:40] know if i was tied up
[1:29:42] you know i had to supplement i swear patrol
[1:29:52] so i had a question uh pretty simply
[1:29:54] just how is success going to be measured
[1:29:56] i know that we are answering this at a
[1:29:59] point in time as you highlighted in the
[1:30:00] presentation where there's a lot of
[1:30:02] incidents that are happening in the
[1:30:03] school can you just identify some of the
[1:30:06] metrics that you're going to look at to
[1:30:07] be able to gauge
[1:30:08] whether this
[1:30:10] program is improving or
[1:30:12] not making any substantial benefits to
[1:30:14] those
[1:30:15] histories
[1:30:16] sure sure so
[1:30:19] we're going to measure this program like
[1:30:20] we do uh you know
[1:30:23] how we measure ourselves on a daily
[1:30:24] basis um
[1:30:26] you know we're going to look at calls
[1:30:27] for service that are generated we're
[1:30:29] going to look at the number of major
[1:30:30] incidents that are happening where we
[1:30:32] are needed there
[1:30:34] and we're you know we're going to just
[1:30:37] speak with the administration about
[1:30:39] conducting surveys getting feedback at
[1:30:42] the end of the school year i'm hearing
[1:30:44] from the school community their thoughts
[1:30:46] they're getting feedback um
[1:30:48] but quite generally
[1:30:50] um you know the the absence of major
[1:30:53] issues in the school is really going to
[1:30:54] speak volumes and that's what we're
[1:30:55] really aiming for
[1:30:57] we're in the business to put ourselves
[1:30:58] out of business we get to a point where
[1:31:00] there's no issues and and uh the
[1:31:03] empowerment is there for the school to
[1:31:04] police themselves through school
[1:31:06] schools security monitors you know i'd
[1:31:09] be happy just to leave just as fast as
[1:31:11] we're coming in there um so we're there
[1:31:13] for a reason
[1:31:14] and um you know who knows if it will be
[1:31:16] a short-term thing or a long-term thing
[1:31:18] but you know we want to make sure that
[1:31:21] it's a safe learning environment for
[1:31:23] everybody
[1:31:24] and that's that's primarily our focus
[1:31:27] and then a follow-up uh question to that
[1:31:30] is um based on your answer uh if the
[1:31:33] priority is safety uh and then the
[1:31:36] additional areas that were highlighted
[1:31:38] in the
[1:31:39] legislative reform to include like
[1:31:41] educators and then also
[1:31:48] to include educators and also making
[1:31:50] sure that the environment is safe and
[1:31:53] improving relationships um
[1:31:56] i think if the onus has placed too
[1:31:58] heavily on the safety element
[1:32:00] my question then is how is a community
[1:32:03] engagement officer different than a
[1:32:04] police officer that's in a school
[1:32:08] i was different than a police officer
[1:32:10] if more of the illness is placed on
[1:32:12] safety absent making sure that they're
[1:32:14] taking the appropriate steps to build
[1:32:16] those relationships and apply that
[1:32:18] community health initiative training
[1:32:20] that they we're trained to use uh if
[1:32:22] we're not creating that also i think
[1:32:24] that that can be very much a missed
[1:32:26] opportunity
[1:32:29] well
[1:32:32] if i think i understand your question
[1:32:34] right i'll answer it this way that you
[1:32:36] know on a daily basis when police
[1:32:38] officers are out in the community
[1:32:40] working we are there empowering the community
[1:32:45] to police themselves
[1:32:47] um and we are simply the uh the agents
[1:32:50] of the of the society
[1:32:53] to to have the ability to enforce laws
[1:32:57] if needed
[1:32:58] and and i would see that we are working
[1:33:00] the same way in the school district we
[1:33:02] are simply there we have the ability to
[1:33:04] act if needed but we don't want to act
[1:33:06] we want to empower the school safety
[1:33:09] officers
[1:33:10] the staff we want to have our presence
[1:33:12] there be of such that everybody just
[1:33:15] does what they're supposed to do and
[1:33:16] there's no no threat from the outside of people
[1:33:19] coming in there thinking that they can
[1:33:21] come in and assault a student
[1:33:23] because their children had a
[1:33:24] disagreement
[1:33:26] the day before
[1:33:27] we don't want one student to feel that
[1:33:29] they can attack another student and get
[1:33:31] away with it we don't want students feel
[1:33:33] that they can bring weapons into the
[1:33:34] schools and get away with it so we just
[1:33:36] simply want our presence that's there to
[1:33:39] be the deterrent
[1:33:41] at the same time
[1:33:43] while we're there we're taking the
[1:33:44] opportunity to be educators to be
[1:33:46] counselors to have to let the students
[1:33:48] have access
[1:33:49] to the police
[1:33:51] to meet their needs if they have any
[1:33:55] thank you and would you be opposed to uh
[1:33:58] if the council should decide
[1:34:01] i know you mentioned doing annual
[1:34:03] feedback surveys with the staff and the
[1:34:05] students i think it's our responsibility
[1:34:08] as a council to make sure that we're
[1:34:09] acting representative of the community's
[1:34:11] interests to potentially provide us just
[1:34:14] a report and an x amount of months
[1:34:16] should we approve that to just gauge how
[1:34:19] well that this program is functioning
[1:34:22] i would not be opposed to that i i plan
[1:34:24] on speaking the superintendent about
[1:34:25] that anyways
[1:34:27] thank you thank you uh it's perfect so i
[1:34:30] think i think when you said that you
[1:34:31] were going to um for your evaluation
[1:34:34] process it was going to be the school
[1:34:36] staff you didn't mention students so i'd
[1:34:38] like to know would students be including
[1:34:39] that and were students included in this
[1:34:42] whole discussion
[1:34:43] um
[1:34:44] you know in terms of um i know that well
[1:34:46] anyway we're students i'll let you
[1:34:47] answer we're students included in this
[1:34:49] discussion
[1:34:50] in terms of um the community engagement
[1:34:52] officers in school was there any kind of
[1:34:54] focus group among the students
[1:34:56] not by the police department but i
[1:34:57] believe there was done by the school
[1:34:59] superintendent
[1:35:01] and um and and that was just a mistake i
[1:35:03] would definitely want to get their input
[1:35:05] at the end of the school year like what
[1:35:06] are your thoughts behind it get get
[1:35:08] ideas from them on the program
[1:35:12] okay and i did have a question about the
[1:35:15] um the training the nasro
[1:35:18] but that is specifically training just
[1:35:21] for police officers right it's not it's not
[1:35:24] well what is it just specific like if
[1:35:26] you're going to police in the streets or
[1:35:28] does it include um police officers being
[1:35:31] in schools
[1:35:33] i believe
[1:35:34] specifically for
[1:35:36] school resource officers that's that
[1:35:38] specific training all right is there a
[1:35:40] breakdown somewhere of what actually i
[1:35:41] know that you meant you spoke it of what
[1:35:44] happens in that training and you don't
[1:35:45] have to have it right here right now but
[1:35:47] um if we have that
[1:35:48] yeah
[1:35:50] this
[1:35:51] is certainly available
[1:35:54] i believe it's available they have a
[1:35:55] website yes
[1:36:00] it's a model that the you know police
[1:36:01] officer has an informal counselor like
[1:36:04] he said a role model um and that's
[1:36:07] what's important for me is you know i
[1:36:10] didn't know any police officers growing
[1:36:11] up and i think it's important that you
[1:36:14] know
[1:36:15] uh you see
[1:36:17] you know officers that look like them
[1:36:19] that
[1:36:19] you know come from neighborhoods similar
[1:36:21] to theirs etc
[1:36:23] so
[1:36:24] you know i think it's an opportunity
[1:36:27] i know you talk about success but in
[1:36:29] terms of recruitment you know years ago
[1:36:31] i was tasked with recruitment and i
[1:36:33] think it's you know
[1:36:35] being a role model for
[1:36:37] our youth to be the difference that they want to
[1:36:40] see
[1:36:45] oh i'm sorry
[1:36:46] if i can just add something thank you
[1:36:48] i was in some of the conversations
[1:36:50] related to this agreement and the
[1:36:52] question didn't come up related to
[1:36:54] what this quarter field brought up
[1:36:56] related to nazareth
[1:36:58] the school district indicated that's the
[1:36:59] gold standard for training
[1:37:01] um there's it's obviously the national
[1:37:03] association there's a
[1:37:05] state version which actually doesn't
[1:37:07] meet
[1:37:08] according to the school district the
[1:37:10] same criteria that the national um
[1:37:13] training provides
[1:37:15] and as was indicated there is
[1:37:17] information related to it and i have it
[1:37:19] available to me too so i can certainly
[1:37:20] pass that well
[1:37:24] um
[1:37:27] yeah justin follow-up is border phila
[1:37:29] question
[1:37:30] community engagement officer when we
[1:37:32] passed the police reform and reinvention
[1:37:35] this would primarily target towards the
[1:37:38] community and now we're hiring these
[1:37:40] officers to compliment what is going on
[1:37:42] with the school district
[1:37:43] are you going to be hiring additional
[1:37:45] officers to go out into the community
[1:37:48] and be part of this also
[1:37:50] and do you have a target date for that
[1:37:53] yeah the the um
[1:37:55] the program that we have in the
[1:37:56] recommendations uh we have every
[1:37:59] intention of building that out we just
[1:38:01] haven't gotten
[1:38:03] we're not there yet
[1:38:05] we are putting the training we're
[1:38:07] implementing the training that we
[1:38:09] discussed for those officers already
[1:38:11] that's being built up
[1:38:12] but uh that's that's still in the works
[1:38:15] and i will be updating our collaborative
[1:38:17] on where we're at with that next week
[1:38:20] um you know or coming soon
[1:38:22] and um but
[1:38:24] we we originally applied for a cops
[1:38:26] grant to be able to build that program
[1:38:27] out we're not successful we're going to
[1:38:29] try again next year so that's the whole
[1:38:32] as far as that program goes a lot how
[1:38:34] does it meet those needs
[1:38:37] would it be safe to say that the
[1:38:38] reinforcement we're going to receive
[1:38:40] from the school will turn that into
[1:38:41] hiring additional staff that can be able
[1:38:44] to be community engagement officer that can be
[1:38:47] found within the community
[1:38:49] as a reimbursement rather than putting
[1:38:51] that money into
[1:38:52] something else
[1:38:54] talk about
[1:38:55] whether they're remorseful
[1:38:58] well they should just cover the six that
[1:39:00] we're going to be
[1:39:01] that we will be bringing on
[1:39:03] for them
[1:39:05] yeah but regardless we're going to hire
[1:39:07] these officers
[1:39:08] so those are reinforcements that we need
[1:39:10] to just return that back into something
[1:39:13] additional officer six more officer with
[1:39:15] that reimbursement that we're getting
[1:39:17] from the school
[1:39:19] the right person from the school if the
[1:39:20] council chooses to
[1:39:22] put more money in the budget but that's
[1:39:24] right now the department is lower
[1:39:27] staffing level with what i would prefer
[1:39:29] what the chief would prefer
[1:39:31] so it's the
[1:39:32] over the next
[1:39:34] 12 24 months
[1:39:36] try and work that back up
[1:39:38] to
[1:39:39] what we consider an adequate staffing
[1:39:41] level
[1:39:42] and part of that charge is to have those
[1:39:45] community engagement officers
[1:39:47] not only his specific assignments but
[1:39:50] every officer that's out on patrols the
[1:39:53] chief talks about being able to
[1:39:55] handle whatever the call comes up
[1:39:57] it's the nature of the department where
[1:40:02] some officers end up with a little area
[1:40:04] of specialty one way or the other by the
[1:40:07] luck of the draw some of the cases that
[1:40:09] they end up being assigned or calls they
[1:40:11] go to
[1:40:12] or their natural proclivity or
[1:40:15] educational background where they have
[1:40:17] a little bit different
[1:40:20] skill set that is more applicable to
[1:40:22] some of these but it's that make sure
[1:40:24] that everybody
[1:40:25] has the level that's able to serve the
[1:40:27] needs of the people when they get
[1:40:31] the calls and then hopefully as the
[1:40:33] calls go down
[1:40:36] that you can do more of the community
[1:40:38] engagement so that you're talking to
[1:40:40] people
[1:40:41] you're walking the beat you're having
[1:40:44] more of the deterrent effect
[1:40:46] and just a smoother engagement
[1:40:50] with the public as a whole
[1:40:54] yeah my concern is that we don't want to
[1:40:56] just leave behind you know i'm not
[1:40:57] saying you can leave it you're doing it
[1:40:58] it's a good program that we're spreading
[1:41:00] in school and community but i'll make
[1:41:02] sure that we are addressing
[1:41:04] the police reform that was intended for
[1:41:07] to have these officers into the
[1:41:09] community also at the same time
[1:41:12] they will
[1:41:13] follow the school and that's the goal
[1:41:16] as you know it's always trying to get
[1:41:18] the budget
[1:41:19] i have to mention it
[1:41:23] well i just want to clarify
[1:41:25] i and tell me if i'm wrong but i thought
[1:41:28] in our 2022 budget
[1:41:30] which we had the report already
[1:41:33] with the recommendations i thought we
[1:41:35] actually already had included money in
[1:41:37] this budget for
[1:41:39] community engagement officers
[1:41:41] and that this is a new program so this
[1:41:44] is new money on top of what we already
[1:41:46] put into the budget for
[1:41:49] adding community engagement officers but
[1:41:51] i could be wrong but that was my memory
[1:41:53] of this it's
[1:41:54] also the nature of hiring the police
[1:41:57] we're
[1:41:58] told
[1:41:59] to pass the civil service test
[1:42:01] be able to be hired
[1:42:03] we have to send them to training right
[1:42:06] so
[1:42:07] basically an officer
[1:42:09] that first year
[1:42:11] [Music]
[1:42:12] can't be used and so it's been
[1:42:15] filling those positions that are in the
[1:42:17] budget
[1:42:18] and to maintain the level of staffing so
[1:42:20] this is
[1:42:21] [Music]
[1:42:23] a
[1:42:24] [Music]
[1:42:25] position i think works for everybody's
[1:42:28] benefit
[1:42:29] even though it might not be considered
[1:42:30] to be perfect
[1:42:36] oh
[1:42:37] yeah so i i just i would like um and i i
[1:42:40] it seems like we can't discuss it openly
[1:42:42] but i really would like to discuss
[1:42:44] um the mayor of base as opposed to just
[1:42:47] by seniority i think that's that's an
[1:42:49] important you know as we know people
[1:42:51] have different ideas about what should
[1:42:52] and shouldn't have in schools but i
[1:42:53] think it's extremely important that um
[1:42:56] we're placing um officers in schools who
[1:42:59] you know you know we want to look at
[1:43:02] just everything and make sure that it
[1:43:03] makes sense if this is what this is
[1:43:05] what's going to happen um that there
[1:43:07] should be a vetting process and
[1:43:09] not just the standard
[1:43:12] seniority process
[1:43:14] so i would like to have more discussion
[1:43:15] about that mr toro
[1:43:18] i thought i was under the impression
[1:43:19] that
[1:43:21] you would interview them and then the
[1:43:22] school board as well
[1:43:25] would interview the candidates for the
[1:43:27] positions in the school correct that's
[1:43:29] correct we do interview them however you
[1:43:32] know
[1:43:33] that interview isn't necessarily to
[1:43:34] select them as much as to interview them
[1:43:37] to potentially exclude them because the job is big it's theirs and then we
[1:43:43] interview them for the right fit if you
[1:43:45] feel they're not the right fit then we
[1:43:46] speak to them and said you're not the
[1:43:48] right fit
[1:43:49] and we and then when you who feels the
[1:43:51] right fit
[1:43:52] would go on to
[1:43:54] um
[1:43:55] be interviewed by the school board to
[1:43:56] make sure they're right fit as well
[1:43:58] correct okay my intention will be to
[1:44:00] present an officer to the school board
[1:44:02] that
[1:44:03] i'm confident that they're going to be
[1:44:04] fine
[1:44:06] but that process is different than the
[1:44:07] merit-based it's still by seniority
[1:44:10] so that's why i really wanted to discuss
[1:44:12] that
[1:44:15] okay so i'm in agreement with um just
[1:44:18] causing this conversation until we're
[1:44:20] able to pick this back up an executive
[1:44:22] session
[1:44:23] uh so pending any further questions no
[1:44:25] you'll have to move into executive
[1:44:27] session but we have to hold this in the
[1:44:29] data session
[1:44:32] now we just need to recess
[1:44:35] yeah if you're going to continue
[1:44:37] yes
[1:44:39] right
[1:44:42] second
[1:44:43] favorite
[1:44:44] all right
[1:44:45] unless there are any other topics for
[1:44:47] before the committee uh can i get a
[1:44:49] motion to adjourn normally
[1:44:51] no we just resign
[1:44:55] we'll pick it up
[1:44:57] i would like to call
[1:45:01] and this is a foreign reminder that
[1:45:03] calling for public hearing uh cdbg cv
[1:45:06] funding to prevent prepare for
[1:45:09] and respond for carolina virus and this
[1:45:11] is on april 25th
[1:45:14] and the second item is also a reminder
[1:45:16] for public hearing proposed annual
[1:45:18] action plan
[1:45:20] public hearing april 25th if there's
[1:45:23] nothing else before finance i ask for a
[1:45:25] motion to adjourn
[1:45:27] second second
[1:45:29] all in favor all right all right thank
[1:45:30] you
[1:45:31] i'd like to call the order city
[1:45:33] development and planning we have 13
[1:45:34] items on the agenda
[1:45:36] um i don't see mr walling
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[1:45:39] here
[1:45:41] on his way down okay
[1:45:44] he should be coming through the door any
[1:45:45] minute our first item is to authorize
[1:45:47] the issue issuance of a revocable permit
[1:45:50] number 668 suganesh hospitality for a
[1:45:53] sign that will overhang the cities right
[1:45:55] away at 759 state street
[1:45:59] i think that's detailed in the it is
[1:46:03] what they call it the standard
[1:46:04] application but ask the council's
[1:46:07] favorable consideration until
[1:46:10] mr i want to give the impression we get
[1:46:13] by without them but we could
[1:46:15] probably handle this one here's the sign
[1:46:19] does everyone have an opportunity to
[1:46:20] actually look at the information
[1:46:22] provided in their packet
[1:46:25] yes and so are there any questions
[1:46:29] if not i can stand in motion i'll move
[1:46:31] it
[1:46:32] second all right all those in favor fine
[1:46:35] okay um number two to authorize the
[1:46:38] mayor or his designated agreement with
[1:46:40] the new york state department of state
[1:46:43] for the downtown the downtown uh city's
[1:46:45] downtown reinvest revitalization
[1:46:47] initiative program contract number
[1:46:49] c1001884
[1:46:52] are you taking this one too man
[1:46:55] this is
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[1:46:57] part of the uh
[1:46:59] dri award and it's government so there's a little bit
[1:47:06] of paperwork
[1:47:09] and uh
[1:47:11] looking for you to move forward on this
[1:47:15] but this is
[1:47:16] the master contractor thing
[1:47:19] it's it's right here
[1:47:31] the delay is a little longer
[1:47:40] so we're talking about dri contract
[1:47:42] number 84. that is correct all right so
[1:47:45] what are the questions with contract
[1:47:47] number 84 are there any at this moment
[1:47:50] anyone have any questions
[1:47:53] okay state of motion so moved
[1:47:56] second always in favor hi all right item
[1:47:59] number three authorize the mayor or his
[1:48:01] destiny to intervene with the new york
[1:48:02] state department of state for the city's
[1:48:04] downtown utilization initiative program
[1:48:06] contract number one zero zero one eight five so this is
[1:48:11] i can't remember which one is which off
[1:48:12] the top of my head i think it's 85
[1:48:14] broadway and clinton
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[1:48:30] decorative lights on broadway and
[1:48:32] clinton where we don't have them to kind
[1:48:34] of match what we're doing downtown um
[1:48:36] it's the reason that you don't see us
[1:48:38] paving broadway right now with the
[1:48:40] national grid cuts because we're going
[1:48:41] to be coming in there others dri and
[1:48:42] doing the same thing so we're going to
[1:48:44] do it all at once get the trenching done
[1:48:46] get in there and put the lights in so
[1:48:49] uh it's a good project this is step one
[1:48:52] of
[1:48:52] many steps
[1:48:54] so you know this is going to be a long
[1:48:56] process getting everything done but once
[1:48:58] we get these contracts
[1:49:00] passed signed authorized out to them
[1:49:02] we'll start working on our request for
[1:49:04] proposals to actually get designed and
[1:49:06] then that will have to go to the state
[1:49:08] so
[1:49:09] do you know the cost of the project
[1:49:11] overall for the lighting the work the budget is
[1:49:15] eight years roughly around eight hundred
[1:49:17] thousand dollars
[1:49:19] oh wow okay yeah the other project the
[1:49:22] budget for those is is you know total
[1:49:24] projects two million but
[1:49:26] we're a little over that butt up
[1:49:28] we're probably gonna need to supplement
[1:49:29] some of that but that's when we get down
[1:49:31] the road with design and you know
[1:49:33] because that has the j street connector
[1:49:34] in it that has
[1:49:38] three projects j street and then there
[1:49:40] is city hall and
[1:49:43] i don't know
[1:49:44] but there's three projects lumped into
[1:49:46] the number 884
[1:49:47] but this is just for getting the
[1:49:49] contracts moving
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[1:49:54] could
[1:50:03] these
[1:50:04] on broadway
[1:50:06] were cover heads that we did replace
[1:50:08] with the leds but it's designed to
[1:50:12] net
[1:50:13] project was only the cobra heads
[1:50:16] these are to standardize the light so
[1:50:18] they're the decorative ones that you see
[1:50:20] in front of city hall and around
[1:50:22] the rest of downtown
[1:50:25] just to make it more visually attractive
[1:50:28] as we uh upgrade the streets and
[1:50:31] overall ambiance and downtown wave
[1:50:33] fighting
[1:50:35] okay weight finding is always a a piece
[1:50:38] that they put in there for uh going for
[1:50:39] a wavelength program
[1:50:42] are there any other questions
[1:50:46] second
[1:50:47] all those in favor of
[1:50:48] thank you
[1:50:50] ah and uh item number four our worst
[1:50:53] vehicle contract for the cities
[1:50:55] of schenectady greenhouse composting
[1:50:57] toilet
[1:50:59] so um
[1:51:01] the city
[1:51:02] owns the
[1:51:04] greenhouse in central park the friends
[1:51:06] of the greenhouse operate it and
[1:51:07] maintain it for the most part they
[1:51:09] really do a great job
[1:51:10] they have an existing
[1:51:12] bathroom facility in both the greenhouse
[1:51:15] utility building and in the teaching
[1:51:16] classroom neither building is ada
[1:51:20] accessible so when they have public
[1:51:22] events
[1:51:23] they don't have an accessible bathroom
[1:51:24] we did investigate the feasibility of
[1:51:27] making the building and the bathroom ada
[1:51:29] accessible the cost of it were
[1:51:32] they were high they were actually hiking
[1:51:34] you had to build a ramp and open the
[1:51:35] doors up and then after they did some
[1:51:36] investigating into it then it got into
[1:51:39] that's kind of theirs not only their
[1:51:40] teaching space but their office space so
[1:51:42] then it was do we really want the public
[1:51:44] to have access into our office space
[1:51:45] because they don't have enough staff to
[1:51:47] keep eyes on everybody
[1:51:48] and so then they started doing a little
[1:51:50] brainstorming and they found this
[1:51:53] composting toilet idea which is used at
[1:51:56] the pine bush
[1:51:57] it is a kit system
[1:52:00] the contractor will order the kit from
[1:52:02] cliva small term it's a sole source the
[1:52:04] kit will come on a truck the contractor
[1:52:06] puts it together digs a hole and it is a
[1:52:09] self-sustaining composting toilet no
[1:52:12] water and no electricity
[1:52:14] it actually is going to have a solar
[1:52:15] panel and an led light and a fan so the
[1:52:18] solar panel will power it to a battery
[1:52:20] um it will have a tank underneath it for waste and it'll compost and then
[1:52:26] every couple of years if we need to you
[1:52:28] know we have the equipment to empty that
[1:52:30] um the greenhouse thinks it fits more in
[1:52:33] line with their goals and it could be a
[1:52:35] teaching item what they're saying is you
[1:52:37] know here we have this the whole thing
[1:52:38] is compostable right it's about
[1:52:40] renewable trying to keep things
[1:52:42] sustainable so they think this will be
[1:52:43] good and it's a building it's a it's a
[1:52:45] fully ada building so let's know that
[1:52:48] part yeah
[1:52:50] so um
[1:52:51] so it was something that you know we
[1:52:52] have uh capital set aside to do this and
[1:52:55] it's actually probably
[1:52:57] a little cheaper than actually modifying
[1:52:59] everything to go this route and from
[1:53:00] there from their goals so i think it'll
[1:53:02] be a good project this is the same
[1:53:04] contractor by the way that we recently
[1:53:06] awarded the construction of the muni
[1:53:09] maintenance building
[1:53:11] and that is going on right now so
[1:53:14] we've had he's been he's been good he's
[1:53:15] working on the maintenance building the
[1:53:17] goal is what he's done with that in a
[1:53:18] month that he moves over and he does
[1:53:20] this
[1:53:21] so this cost of 52 000 is the
[1:53:25] thank entire cost
[1:53:25] great
[1:53:27] sounds quite interesting by the way oh
[1:53:29] and when it's all done yep come on down
[1:53:34] all right i'm moving i'll second it i
[1:53:36] was in favor
[1:53:38] and we're able to do number one we did
[1:53:40] it yeah
[1:53:47] so the next item on our agenda is um the
[1:53:50] hosting the quarterly meetings outside
[1:53:52] of city hall follow-up discussion
[1:53:55] mr williams so thank you for feeling i
[1:53:57] apologize i wasn't able to brief this
[1:53:59] last meeting um but i wanted to
[1:54:01] re-engage this discussion to see how
[1:54:03] everyone kind of felt i know there was
[1:54:04] an article that came on the gazette
[1:54:07] regarding this topic
[1:54:09] i know when i initially briefed it i
[1:54:11] mentioned uh quarterly but it's kind of
[1:54:13] developed into wanting it to be based
[1:54:15] around a topic after doing research into
[1:54:18] the city code the reason why i included
[1:54:20] chapter 28 was there's already a
[1:54:22] stipulation that allows us to conduct
[1:54:24] special meetings that are only based
[1:54:26] around um
[1:54:28] very defined topics please correct me if
[1:54:29] i'm wrong mr coleman but with respect to
[1:54:33] us having
[1:54:34] conversations throughout the community
[1:54:37] similar to this police
[1:54:39] or the school ceo's conversation we
[1:54:42] could have had this discussion at the
[1:54:44] high school where there have been a
[1:54:45] number of uh discussions already since
[1:54:47] it's already a centralized location for
[1:54:49] this this topic but
[1:54:52] just wanting to gauge where everyone was
[1:54:54] and then potentially highlight some
[1:54:56] equipment needs
[1:54:57] just so
[1:54:58] if interested i can begin just looking
[1:55:01] at what available facilities are in the
[1:55:03] area to see what our options are to
[1:55:05] potentially host uh
[1:55:08] a topic discussion this year want to be
[1:55:10] realistic don't want to open the door
[1:55:12] for too much expectation
[1:55:13] i do think this is something that is
[1:55:15] easily achievable
[1:55:17] if we can just fine-tune what we each
[1:55:19] expect from these meetings and uh
[1:55:21] provide enough notice in the public
[1:55:27] it's free
[1:55:29] um let's try to figure out how to look
[1:55:30] too thank you for that um i actually
[1:55:34] feel i just want to back up to the day
[1:55:36] that we had the girls here from the high
[1:55:38] school uh to meet with ms porterfield
[1:55:41] and ms detour and myself
[1:55:43] we got really positive feedback from
[1:55:45] that and they met with staff as well
[1:55:47] around the city hall and
[1:55:49] a comment that the
[1:55:52] teacher the coordinator of the program
[1:55:53] made afterwards was that
[1:55:56] some of the girls didn't even know that
[1:55:57] city hall existed
[1:55:59] um in their community they had no idea
[1:56:02] what this what this was
[1:56:04] um
[1:56:05] and
[1:56:06] uh
[1:56:08] i thought then i thought about
[1:56:10] the suggestion that you had made in
[1:56:12] terms of moving the moving the meetings
[1:56:14] around and i really maintain i really
[1:56:16] think that it's important for
[1:56:18] folks to come here
[1:56:20] and and feel
[1:56:22] like they're in the seat of democracy in
[1:56:24] our city
[1:56:25] at the same time i think that all of us
[1:56:27] have been going around to a lot of
[1:56:29] various neighborhood meetings
[1:56:31] um a lot of different topical meetings
[1:56:33] there's one coming up soon that is
[1:56:36] you know the one community uh the one
[1:56:38] schenectady initiative that the
[1:56:40] schenectady foundation is doing um so i think that there's a lot of meetings
[1:56:45] that we go to where we can solicit
[1:56:47] community input and hear community needs
[1:56:50] um on a really regular basis sikkem does
[1:56:53] different kinds of meetings um so
[1:56:57] now on to your suggestion that you just
[1:56:59] made doing maybe one meeting a year on
[1:57:02] topic
[1:57:03] um i think if that was outside of our
[1:57:06] regular council
[1:57:08] committee and and council meeting if we
[1:57:11] kept our regular council committee and
[1:57:13] council meetings here
[1:57:15] but did add in every so often a topical
[1:57:18] meeting like like you're suggesting i
[1:57:20] think that's an interesting proposition
[1:57:22] to consider but i would want to keep our
[1:57:25] counsel and committee meetings here
[1:57:27] on a regular basis
[1:57:35] so so again it's just being a conduit so
[1:57:37] i know absolutely we all attend a number
[1:57:39] of neighborhood association meetings
[1:57:41] throughout the city um however that
[1:57:44] doesn't specifically address every
[1:57:46] resident in the in the community so
[1:57:47] there's still a portion of of our city
[1:57:49] where residents are being missed so i
[1:57:52] think there's still benefits to us
[1:57:54] hosting
[1:57:55] uh
[1:57:56] city city council discussions within the public forum
[1:58:02] the reason why i included the caveat of
[1:58:04] just having our expectation for this
[1:58:06] year be one i don't think there's any
[1:58:08] reason to be hard-pressed to having
[1:58:09] quarterly meetings
[1:58:11] right as we're coming out
[1:58:13] potentially re-entering a pandemic
[1:58:15] and i think placing that expectation
[1:58:17] with the council that's still
[1:58:19] formulating together when the number of
[1:58:21] members are still new i think it's very
[1:58:23] grandiose
[1:58:25] so for me right now i think if the
[1:58:26] intent is to potentially get to having
[1:58:29] meetings
[1:58:30] frequently throughout the year in the
[1:58:31] community i think starting with calendar
[1:58:34] year 22 just having the expectation
[1:58:37] being with one coming back to the
[1:58:38] drawing board seeing how that went and
[1:58:40] then potentially reevaluating the
[1:58:42] benefits so it was just one to not
[1:58:45] kind of hard press tyus to
[1:58:51] yeah
[1:58:52] it is something that we have heard over
[1:58:54] the last year about
[1:58:56] campaigning talking to voters people who
[1:58:58] are engaged that we need to engage our
[1:59:00] community more
[1:59:02] of what we're doing in city hall exactly
[1:59:03] what the
[1:59:04] young lady has been asking
[1:59:07] about where is city hall
[1:59:09] so we want to take a good idea you're
[1:59:11] bringing this up here so that we take
[1:59:13] our meetings
[1:59:14] to the community when you say one
[1:59:16] meeting are you referring to committee
[1:59:18] meeting or city council
[1:59:21] or should we do both
[1:59:23] in the same cycle
[1:59:24] so we can currently do a special meeting
[1:59:26] um and
[1:59:28] at that point it would be outlining what
[1:59:30] is needed to have a
[1:59:32] habit wow
[1:59:33] what is needed to have a meeting in the
[1:59:35] public so the expectations with making
[1:59:37] sure that we had internet connectivity
[1:59:40] or making sure that we had an
[1:59:42] appropriate table size that type of
[1:59:43] stuff to make sure it wasn't too uh
[1:59:47] displaced when we go to a different venue um but absolutely i
[1:59:52] would love to potentially get to having more and this is something i
[1:59:55] support so what i need for us to work
[1:59:58] out the logistics how are we gonna be
[2:00:00] able to get live feed from their
[2:00:03] internet access and accommodation if we
[2:00:05] were to do this outside of city hall
[2:00:08] what are what are the things that we
[2:00:10] need to put in place
[2:00:11] so can we work on that to see how we are
[2:00:13] and what the council
[2:00:16] you know you know from the council in
[2:00:18] terms of what's doing that outside of
[2:00:19] city hall
[2:00:21] ms williams before having those
[2:00:23] discussions i didn't want to prematurely
[2:00:25] like start asking as if the council had
[2:00:27] already decided uh i'm just one
[2:00:29] representative so i feel very strongly
[2:00:31] about doing this but i want to make sure
[2:00:33] before i start asking smackley high
[2:00:35] school hey what are the expectations for
[2:00:38] us to be able to request the use of your
[2:00:40] auditorium i think it's it's it's
[2:00:42] important for me to make sure that we
[2:00:44] are all functioning with the same
[2:00:45] understanding and that i'm not acting
[2:00:47] inappropriately
[2:00:48] and you mentioned the high school i'm
[2:00:50] just going to mention the boys and girls
[2:00:51] club just for mentioning
[2:00:54] so i like the idea of having a special
[2:00:56] meeting that's and keeping our council
[2:00:58] meetings and our community meetings here
[2:01:00] right now since we're
[2:01:01] um
[2:01:02] taking baby steps so having a special
[2:01:04] meeting um and having it on a specific
[2:01:07] topic and actually um i received some
[2:01:09] emails actually from a former council
[2:01:11] member who who um mr o'brien who saw
[2:01:13] that you know who suggested that back in
[2:01:15] january actually that if we're going to
[2:01:17] do this maybe we should look at a
[2:01:19] special meeting on a particular topic so
[2:01:21] i'm very supportive of that uh if we
[2:01:24] can you know in the future do our
[2:01:26] committee meetings or council meetings
[2:01:27] outside i think that's going to take a
[2:01:29] lot of organizing
[2:01:30] and arranging but i'm certainly open to
[2:01:34] doing it at least one and actually if it
[2:01:36] works out well i'm open to doing more um
[2:01:40] as ms patrick has said that we do have
[2:01:42] uh we brought the young ladies here and
[2:01:43] they've never seen um
[2:01:45] they've never seen uh city hall before
[2:01:48] so i think that both things can happen
[2:01:50] that we're out in the public and we're
[2:01:52] also when we're there inviting people to
[2:01:55] actually come to city hall meetings
[2:01:56] because currently when people come it's
[2:01:58] just because they have an issue i'd love
[2:02:00] people to come just to you know to
[2:02:02] engage into you know um just to be there
[2:02:05] to kind of see how we do our process so
[2:02:07] i
[2:02:08] think that going out to them would
[2:02:10] probably get more people to to begin to
[2:02:12] come when we want to get on this council
[2:02:15] we certainly show up
[2:02:17] to the public on a regular basis for
[2:02:18] weeks on end so
[2:02:20] i think that you know once we're now
[2:02:22] we're all elected we you know coming
[2:02:24] back to the community and having a
[2:02:26] reform there
[2:02:27] is actually um kind of a nice idea and
[2:02:30] says to the community we don't only come
[2:02:32] um for this time so i think it might be
[2:02:33] a good idea
[2:02:35] mr palamini we don't need to have a
[2:02:37] special meeting to do this first of all
[2:02:39] we just can have a town hall
[2:02:42] and have people come and discuss what it
[2:02:45] is that interests them
[2:02:47] furthermore if we have a special meeting
[2:02:49] we are bound i'm assuming by
[2:02:52] the guidelines of a council meeting
[2:02:55] where each individual only has a certain
[2:02:57] amount of time to speak
[2:02:59] so why not just have informal town halls
[2:03:01] where we all show up
[2:03:03] let people come and say what they need
[2:03:06] to say if you want to form it around a
[2:03:08] particular topic that's fine but to have
[2:03:11] a special meeting
[2:03:13] quote unquote i don't see that as
[2:03:16] necessary we can do this already
[2:03:18] and the other aspect is if we do these
[2:03:21] special meetings what will be the cost
[2:03:23] there's got to be a cost associated with
[2:03:26] that
[2:03:27] and that i think is needed to
[2:03:30] have before we even go down that road
[2:03:33] but the town halls we can do
[2:03:36] so what mr waves said is that he wanted
[2:03:37] to make sure there was a consensus that
[2:03:39] we would do this before he looked into
[2:03:41] what the cost is going to be what
[2:03:42] equipment is needed because i think we
[2:03:44] do have to
[2:03:45] make sure that it's even something we
[2:03:46] want to do otherwise
[2:03:48] it's just um
[2:03:50] yes mr torreira mr williams
[2:03:53] exactly what neighborhoods aren't being
[2:03:55] represented
[2:03:58] by
[2:03:59] the local
[2:04:01] groups
[2:04:03] you say they don't have access to
[2:04:06] going to the neighborhood association
[2:04:08] meetings are there specific areas that
[2:04:10] can't get to a neighborhood meeting
[2:04:12] [Music]
[2:04:14] so i wasn't saying that individuals
[2:04:16] aren't able to become members of
[2:04:18] specific neighborhoods i'm saying the
[2:04:20] neighborhood associations aren't
[2:04:22] all-encompassing of every member and the
[2:04:24] community so there are certain members
[2:04:26] who just
[2:04:27] don't attend organizations and i think
[2:04:29] it's important for us to make certain
[2:04:31] steps to make sure that they are able to
[2:04:34] be
[2:04:35] viewers or to have better access so this
[2:04:38] is again just
[2:04:39] increasing access for people to to see
[2:04:41] us and then engage with us so we can
[2:04:44] then bring them in to to city hall
[2:04:46] because i've heard that frequently where
[2:04:48] people don't even know where city hall
[2:04:49] even exists
[2:04:51] and
[2:04:53] your goal is to increase people in
[2:04:55] attendance
[2:04:57] first of all at a special meeting and
[2:04:58] then secondly to get them to come here
[2:05:02] yes ms williams
[2:05:04] my intent very
[2:05:05] candidly is i
[2:05:07] it pains me to hear our public forums
[2:05:11] have zero comments
[2:05:12] and that represents a legislative item i
[2:05:15] think it is imperative that we have
[2:05:18] continuous input and feedback from the
[2:05:20] members of our city and if people aren't
[2:05:23] using the current processes that are in
[2:05:25] place us taking steps to see what more
[2:05:28] we can do to meet them where they are
[2:05:30] sure
[2:05:33] mayor
[2:05:35] in
[2:05:37] my uh
[2:05:38] years of experience you will
[2:05:41] notice
[2:05:42] you'll look back and appreciate where
[2:05:44] things have run fairly smoothly and
[2:05:46] people are all in agreement when you get
[2:05:48] the meeting where
[2:05:49] everybody comes out and all of a sudden
[2:05:52] things have changed so much so it runs
[2:05:54] in cycles that
[2:05:56] it may be self-correcting that you're
[2:05:58] looking to
[2:05:59] meet everybody then one day everybody's
[2:06:01] just going to show up here
[2:06:03] i'll be sick one day
[2:06:09] i think that
[2:06:10] me i think a good example are the
[2:06:12] neighborhood meetings that we did hold
[2:06:13] at the mayor hill held that we all
[2:06:15] attended um for the awkward process i
[2:06:17] mean i think that's pretty much the town
[2:06:19] hall
[2:06:20] model
[2:06:21] um that mr palamani is mentioning um
[2:06:25] and i'll just throw out there also that
[2:06:26] don't forget about the libraries as well
[2:06:28] because they have a lot of the
[2:06:30] technology
[2:06:31] um and
[2:06:32] pretty much we can
[2:06:34] as long as we get on schedule uh use
[2:06:36] those you know at no cost
[2:06:38] um so it would just be the technology
[2:06:40] piece um which
[2:06:50] and it's nothing new i mean we've done
[2:06:52] this in the past um unfortunately
[2:06:55] not very well attended
[2:06:57] but
[2:06:58] we have had these type of events so
[2:07:02] to have a town hall or
[2:07:04] and get people engaged with a particular
[2:07:06] topic or just what's on their mind
[2:07:10] this is nothing new for us and
[2:07:13] um
[2:07:14] it's something that we can do without
[2:07:16] having a special meeting
[2:07:19] i don't i don't recall as a whole entire
[2:07:22] council ever doing that we certainly
[2:07:24] took the budget on the road
[2:07:27] the budget yeah
[2:07:30] okay i don't remember that
[2:07:32] we did because i was the chair we set up
[2:07:34] the meetings and every time probably
[2:07:36] four or five different neighborhoods
[2:07:38] and there weren't very many people that came unfortunately
[2:07:43] okay
[2:07:44] if you do a budget with a tax increase
[2:07:51] but i was gonna say that's why it's
[2:07:52] important to do these types of
[2:07:55] deliberations as a council because
[2:07:56] that's a very important idea where i'll
[2:07:58] be able to i'm not in no position trying
[2:08:00] to have us recreate the wheel i just
[2:08:02] want to see it happen
[2:08:04] so if we can come together and develop a
[2:08:06] framework for how that town hall is
[2:08:08] going to happen occur and if we hold
[2:08:10] each other accountable to be present
[2:08:12] because i think there is power in
[2:08:14] numbers and as a council we should be
[2:08:16] engaging the city i am not opposed to
[2:08:18] just having something that is already
[2:08:20] done in the past just making sure we
[2:08:22] picked the right topic to improve our exposure
[2:08:27] nice
[2:08:28] so what are you looking for at this
[2:08:29] point in time
[2:08:34] i would say if the consensus is shifting
[2:08:36] towards having a town hall um
[2:08:40] i can formulate some themes
[2:08:42] to have the conversation around and if
[2:08:45] in the meantime everyone can just come
[2:08:47] up with what their individual
[2:08:48] expectations for town hall
[2:08:51] it's uh
[2:08:52] how you envision that being structured
[2:08:55] i think
[2:08:59] okay
[2:09:00] do you want to bring this back up
[2:09:02] in two weeks
[2:09:04] so in two weeks we just kind of come
[2:09:06] back to the table with um what we'd like
[2:09:09] to see happen maybe talk about some
[2:09:10] topics i'd like to see
[2:09:12] um and you'll look at we can talk about
[2:09:14] different locations
[2:09:16] and of course we don't have to worry
[2:09:18] about um concerning ourselves with
[2:09:20] making sure that we have the technology
[2:09:22] that we need so
[2:09:23] all right just it's a classification so
[2:09:25] we're still going to be continuing
[2:09:26] discussion and having
[2:09:28] city council
[2:09:30] and
[2:09:45] my understanding is we were just really
[2:09:46] talking about town halls are you still want to continue the
[2:09:49] discussion
[2:09:52] outside the home city hall well
[2:09:54] i wouldn't be in favor of that so i
[2:09:56] don't know i think you were looking for
[2:09:57] whether there was consensus among the
[2:09:59] board members
[2:10:00] around among the council members um
[2:10:03] about whether we would be interested in
[2:10:05] doing
[2:10:06] city council meetings my statement was
[2:10:09] that i i would rather hold our city
[2:10:11] council meetings in our city council
[2:10:14] committee meetings here
[2:10:16] um i would be
[2:10:18] open to having
[2:10:20] topical
[2:10:21] meetings in other neighborhoods and
[2:10:23] other settings so that's just my my
[2:10:26] vote
[2:10:28] all right so it's clear that um so let's
[2:10:31] just
[2:10:32] have a just kind of like just talk this
[2:10:34] through so are you still interested in
[2:10:36] doing council meetings not necessarily
[2:10:38] right now not that one this year but in
[2:10:40] the future is that something you're
[2:10:41] still interested in doing yes in the
[2:10:43] future but if we're able to have one now
[2:10:45] the the the town hall discussion to to
[2:10:48] see how it's perceived and see how it's
[2:10:50] formulated i think it would be more or
[2:10:52] less like a test
[2:10:54] [Music]
[2:11:09] see where we are with it
[2:11:11] mr toro
[2:11:15] are we going around the food yeah okay
[2:11:17] so
[2:11:18] i i like carl's idea um you know town
[2:11:22] hall
[2:11:23] see how that works out and then in the
[2:11:25] future i mean if it works out well this
[2:11:27] time and we want to discuss it again i
[2:11:29] think our meetings belong here in our
[2:11:32] government building and
[2:11:34] you know but maybe we'll get some more
[2:11:36] folks to join us but um i think for now
[2:11:39] if we have a town hall and all of a
[2:11:41] sudden it seems like there's 40 people
[2:11:43] who might want to
[2:11:45] um
[2:11:46] have us
[2:11:47] do a special meeting
[2:11:52] something we can bring back to the table
[2:11:53] and discuss okay there mr pelham did you
[2:11:56] have more input i just think uh our
[2:11:58] meeting should be here
[2:12:01] this is the center of our city
[2:12:02] government it's important for people to
[2:12:04] know
[2:12:05] where this building is
[2:12:06] what it represents it represents
[2:12:08] everybody in this city
[2:12:10] and it's important to try to get people
[2:12:13] here
[2:12:14] whether it's kids and maybe we can have
[2:12:18] a one day a month where we do tours for
[2:12:21] kids or school groups
[2:12:23] if the mayor's available
[2:12:25] he could
[2:12:26] come and see them that would be
[2:12:28] something worthwhile to get kids here
[2:12:31] and younger people
[2:12:33] but i think it's vital
[2:12:35] for having government meetings in our
[2:12:38] cities
[2:12:40] where our city government centered is
[2:12:42] important
[2:12:43] and if we truly want to hear what people
[2:12:46] have to say the town hall concept allows
[2:12:49] them
[2:12:50] to talk
[2:12:52] and for us to be quiet and listen
[2:12:54] and
[2:12:55] i think that
[2:12:56] to me is the
[2:12:58] more appropriate way to go
[2:13:00] well i think both are acceptable and
[2:13:03] we'll just continue to go down this road
[2:13:04] um i i understand what you're saying
[2:13:06] about this being you know in peop being
[2:13:09] the center of government
[2:13:10] however the city is also part of the
[2:13:13] people that we serve and so meeting them
[2:13:15] where they are i think is of equal
[2:13:17] importance so
[2:13:18] we'll put it on again for two weeks and
[2:13:20] just continue these discussions so if
[2:13:22] you can bring back your
[2:13:24] uh
[2:13:31] language in the city code says that
[2:13:34] council meetings are to take place at
[2:13:36] city hall unless otherwise posted right
[2:13:39] with proper notice
[2:13:42] i would
[2:13:43] say that it doesn't really set out
[2:13:44] whether or not you have to do something
[2:13:46] by resolution for that purpose
[2:13:48] i would for the purposes of um you know
[2:13:52] providing notice to the public my
[2:13:54] recommendation would be that the council
[2:13:56] passed a resolution for that purpose
[2:13:57] [Music]
[2:13:59] so if we're going to do a special
[2:14:01] meeting because it does
[2:14:03] give um
[2:14:04] how that's done that special meaning
[2:14:06] that's clearly covered in the code so
[2:14:09] if we're not going to do a special
[2:14:10] meeting however or if we're going to
[2:14:11] call it a town hall
[2:14:14] do we need to what would we need to do
[2:14:16] no you wouldn't have to know because
[2:14:19] i mean
[2:14:20] there's nothing in the code that talks
[2:14:22] about town hall meetings right so
[2:14:24] anything that were to happen
[2:14:26] um you know the
[2:14:28] obviously the council can obviously
[2:14:30] agree to do it um
[2:14:32] if somebody didn't make it
[2:14:35] um there's nothing you know in the code
[2:14:37] that requires a council person to attend
[2:14:39] the town hall
[2:14:41] to be frank
[2:14:43] as opposed to you know
[2:14:44] certain requirements related to
[2:14:46] attending regular meetings and
[2:14:48] you know meeting actual meetings of the
[2:14:50] council the other thing is if you were
[2:14:51] to do town hall you couldn't take any
[2:14:53] formal action obviously uh as
[2:14:56] mr palmer
[2:14:57] is to you know listen to what people
[2:14:59] have to say it's one of those times when
[2:15:00] we would just have to you know you as
[2:15:02] council people have to sit there and
[2:15:03] just listen to what people say because
[2:15:05] you can't take official action
[2:15:07] um
[2:15:08] because it's not a regularly called
[2:15:10] council meeting
[2:15:16] excuse me
[2:15:18] but they could ask us questions yes
[2:15:20] absolutely yeah so it's not like
[2:15:22] you would create the format yeah
[2:15:25] okay but you couldn't obviously pass a
[2:15:28] resolution right right no i just can't
[2:15:29] i'll take a formal option yeah okay
[2:15:33] all right well let's bring this back
[2:15:34] into exciting
[2:15:36] and we'll see definitely discussions and
[2:15:38] it sounds like we're leaning more
[2:15:39] towards town hall but i think at some
[2:15:41] point special meaning outside should not
[2:15:43] be outside the realm of possibility
[2:15:46] any other questions or discussions on
[2:15:48] that
[2:15:49] no okay
[2:15:51] we'll
[2:15:52] be back in two weeks with that thank you
[2:15:54] mr williams
[2:15:55] all right the uh next item on the agenda
[2:15:57] is a um
[2:16:00] ceremonial resolution for jerry amy zion
[2:16:02] church there are going to be 185 years
[2:16:04] ago
[2:16:06] they're the oldest black church in the
[2:16:07] city and their event is on the 29th so
[2:16:10] um i'd like to be able to present them
[2:16:11] with a
[2:16:12] ceremony resolution
[2:16:15] so second all those in favor thank you
[2:16:19] and the uh
[2:16:21] the next item for public is the a
[2:16:23] ceremony resolution for arbor day which
[2:16:25] is the 29th of april this year we do a
[2:16:28] resolution for them every year
[2:16:30] we would invite folks from retreat and
[2:16:33] whoever else is helping i know community
[2:16:35] fathers is involved with um doing some
[2:16:37] of the tree planting nowadays so we just
[2:16:39] invite folks to city hall to accept that
[2:16:41] resolution so moved okay always in favor
[2:16:44] hi
[2:16:46] okay um
[2:16:49] the final four items are for executive
[2:16:51] session to discuss property sales
[2:16:55] so uh at this time on the same motion to
[2:16:57] go in executive session
[2:16:59] second all's in favor all right
[2:17:01] okay
[2:17:02] we're gonna go to the executive session