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on saturday

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no she's not she's smart

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okay

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that's it you're going back down

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i'd like to call to order the

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schenectady city council committee

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meeting for monday june 6 2022.

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uh

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the first item on the agenda will be a

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presentation by the office of cannabis

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management um as you all know we next we

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decided to opt in and so it's something

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that's going to be happening part of

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that is that there will be something

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called conditional adult use dispensary

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license opportunities that'll be first

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and before regular licenses are um

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given out and so tonight we have with us

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neveleen white from the community

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relations for external affairs and phil

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rumsey who is the manager of inter

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governmental outreach so if you'd like

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to come up

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okay

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hi how are you i have some um

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materials and some information

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my name is neville white i am the

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manager of community affairs we will be

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conducting a

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grant and presentation on tomorrow on

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wednesday wednesday at schenectady public library that

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presentation is geared towards um

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individuals who may be eligible for what

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we're called calling the conditional

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license um phil will be doing a

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presentation right now just a really ten

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minute presentation um giving you an

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overview of what that presentation will

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um look like but it's we're really

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excited to get connected to the

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community so people can get ready um and

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get their documents in order for the

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economic opportunities that will um will

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be opening up very shortly we are

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looking to open up the first

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dispensaries december of 2022 so by the

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end of this year we should have

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dispensaries open up in new york state

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so um we're looking forward to really

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excited about this and this is a

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continuous conversation we plan to be in

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schenectady county continuously as more

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and more information gets out so that we

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can stay connected to the community

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yep right here okay perfect

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um so yeah my name is philip rumsey i'm

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the

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manager of intergovernmental outreach

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for the office of cannabis management

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and um

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i wanted to give a

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um a brief overview of what some of you

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might be hearing if you attend the

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community outreach event

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as neverland said this wednesday

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um so i'll kind of start at the

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beginning and

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kind of walk you through

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how we how ocm has gone up to this point

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and where we might be headed moving

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forward

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um march 31st of last year

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marijuana regulation and taxation act

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was passed

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i'll be referring to that as murder

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moving forward

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myrta outlined the basic structure of

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the cannabis industry in new york

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excuse me um

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so it laid the foundation for um what

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we'll be dealing with moving forward

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first and foremost it brought over the

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cannabinoid hemp

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aspect of the industry it brought

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medical cannabis and recreational

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cannabis under one roof the office of

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cannabis management

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we also have a board it's a five-member

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board i'm headed by uh chair tremen

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since um since the passage we've been um

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very busy on many different fronts

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um first and foremost we are writing the

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regulations for murder there are nine

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licenses in murder

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the two you're probably most familiar

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with are the um

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dispensary license and the on-site

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consumption license those are the two of

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the nine licenses that communities could

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uh there is a um

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taxation rate um there's it comes in

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three different

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uh phases the first is the uh thc

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uh tax

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and we're focusing on the thc tax

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as opposed to a weight tax which you see

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in other states

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so for example there's a three percent

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tax on edibles there's a five percent on

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the flower or the bud and there's an

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eight percent tax on concentrates and

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that's the fate pens or the um

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other forms of concentration and that's

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to push individuals towards a lower um

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thc amount

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nine percent

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um state excise tax that kicks in at the

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retail level so at the dispensaries um

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there'll be a nine percent retail excise

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tax

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and the one that you might be more

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interested in here is the four percent

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excise tax

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communities that have dispensaries

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within them

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will have the access to the four percent

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excise tax three percent of that will

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stay with the community where the

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dispensary is housed one percent will go

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to the county

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once the tax is collected it's going

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into what's called the new york state

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cannabis revenue fund

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and from that fund it's going to be

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distributed in different ways

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will be going towards

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um uh

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drug uh therapy and

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drug rehabilitation part of our health

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outreach campaign

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uh 40 will be distributed to

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community organizations in communities

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that were disproportionately impacted by

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the war on drugs so that's how the tax

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revenue will be distributed when it's

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collected

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if anyone does have any questions uh

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feel free to jump in if um there is

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anything you want to ask i will be

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taking some at the end as well

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i have a question

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only the council can ask questions oh

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okay um

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the nine license types again the the two

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i discussed earlier were the

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dispensaries and the on-site

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consumptions

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the other one is a micro business that's

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a fully integrated one

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there's a nursery license a

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manufacturing license a delivery license

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the reason we have these nine licenses

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or one of the reasons is it creates

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multiple entry points into the cannabis

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industry

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we know from experience and looking at

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other states

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that individuals with large amounts of

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money or

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corporations with large amounts of money

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they can come in and instantly take

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what's called the seed to sale

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which is everything from putting the

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seed into the ground all the way to

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selling it and they can very quickly um

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gobble up the industry so what we're

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doing is creating these license type

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which again creates these entry points

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an individual we do need to wait for the

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regulations to come out however an

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individual wouldn't be able to receive

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all nine licenses or multiple licenses

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you're captive what you're able to get

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so that opens up an opportunity for more

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individuals to come into the industry

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what you

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will be hearing on wednesday about card

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the conditional adult use dispensary

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that's really a

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second road or second path so we

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currently have two paths the murder

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licenses the nine license that i

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that came from the legislation the

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second path are these conditional

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cultivation licenses the growing

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and then the conditional retail

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dispensary licenses

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we have been giving out the board of the

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cannabis control board has been issuing

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the conditional cultivation licenses

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over the past month and a half

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and we just finished the public comment

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period for the conditional retail

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dispensary licenses

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and i do want to emphasize again the

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difference here the murder 9 licenses

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although there's similarities with a

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growing and retail are separate from

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this conditional these conditional

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retail dispensaries are going to have a

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maximum 200 individuals who can apply

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and the individuals who could grow or

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were also there was a different criteria

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than what you'll find in the murder

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murda the legislation

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set a goal of awarding 50

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of the licenses to social equity

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candidates

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social equity

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element to them but again they're

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separate two different lanes to get

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these licenses

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as i said we did just finish the public

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comment period for the conditional

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dispensaries

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right now our lawyers are going through

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those comments to saying what needs to

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be incorporated and responding as we do

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with all legislation

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and i want to emphasize again there's

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200 with a conditional where uh 200

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possible um

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retail dispensaries for the

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conditional retail

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and there's could be three to four

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thousand in the murder licenses so again

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these are these are two separate paths

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to two different

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entities that you would be dealing with

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if you wanted them

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for the most part i think that

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sums up where we're at with a lot of

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moving pieces here i will say that we

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will need a little grace with answering

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questions

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unlike almost any other new york state

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bureaucracy or agency we don't have the

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regulations governing our industry so

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for the murder licenses we

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are still in the process of writing

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those and getting those out in the

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coming months

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and with the conditional licenses

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cultivation licenses already being given

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out and again we just ended the public

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comment period for the

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retail dispensaries the conditional

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retail dispensaries so

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we we don't have everything finalized so

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there will be some questions that i

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would um

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would be problematic for me to to answer

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just because we're not that far along

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with a lot of the detail

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um

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i think for the most part that's you

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know the summary i i kind of wanted to

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give and um

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if there are questions i would certainly

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like to dive into those and

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see what uh

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what i can help clarify before

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wednesday's meeting

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i just wanted to add that the um the

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condition um the car there's two

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criterias and you have to have um have a

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marijuana configuration or a family

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member family member is defined as

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mother father

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uh child guardian people believe garden

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or spouse at this present time you know

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again the um the proposed regulations

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are not finalized as a gift and you have

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to um have had a business for two years

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it could be a

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current business it could be a

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pass-through business with a net um

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net profit so i wanted to be clear that

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there's two um criteria that these 200

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people have to meet in order to get uh

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this the dispensary and it's a turnkey

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dispensary there's money set aside to

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help folks um so basically they're

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giving you a business um already you set

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up location everything and you are to

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run the business with um loans of course

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that you do have to pay back for zero percent but again these are all

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proposed to change once we get the

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comment period and people um you know

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real disagree and maybe we might have to

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make some changes so they're not really

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sure of that just want to add that so

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yeah just a question about that so um

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there's two criteria can people like a

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partner can there be a partnership form

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a partnership where one has the

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conviction perhaps the other one has had

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the business are people able to do those

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kind of partnerships

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in order to make that happen

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you can um yeah you can do that however

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the person with the conviction had

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passed with the business has to be 51

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so you can do some partnerships however

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the person has to have 51 percent

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majority owned on the business

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thank you and just to emphasize that one

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point is that

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the criteria for the conditional are

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very different than the criteria for the

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murder the um

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the nine myrtle licenses so

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again i just want to keep emphasizing

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that i know there's some confusion out

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there but um

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to neverland's point they're those two

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criteria you know is not found in murder

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um the murder licenses they're found in

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the conditional licenses

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but the conditional licenses you've

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already closed the public comment period

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right so there really is no

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ability to have additional public

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comment on

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that

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those two criteria right that is correct

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however we've just received it closed

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may 31st so the attorneys have not

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incorporated any of those possible

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changes yet so we really can't speak on

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it we just give me what's proposed but

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we really can't speak on it once they do

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that then we'll come out with the

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finalized regulations and then that

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would be the guidelines so may 31st was

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the ending period but we are still

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supposed to still get ready get set you

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still need to get your conviction paid

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there's certain things that you still

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can't be doing right now to position

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yourself so that you're ready when the

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applications come out when you don't

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mean there's certain things that you

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have to show id you have to show um

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proof of where you live so those kind of

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things that you take time sometimes when

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you're going to places to get

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information so we want people to just

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get ready get set and again it's an

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opportunity for us to establish the

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relationship because that's really

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important the office of cannabis

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management wants to adapt to a

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relationship with the community so that

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you know we could they have clear um

394
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information right because we see a lot

395
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of misinformation coming up so we want

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to make sure that people have great and

397
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,320
clear information

398
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,640
any other questions from council members

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mr palmany i have a couple questions

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what's the 20

401
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for education to be useful

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um

403
00:28:04,399 --> 00:28:07,039
that is a 40 breakdown

404
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:08,559
from the campus rather than going

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towards education that's going to be um

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in addition to

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00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:17,279
the regular state funding going towards

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um schools

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as far as are you asking like the

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specific what what it would be used for

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00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:25,520
or no i was just curious what that

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00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:27,520
education component is if it's for

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schools if it's for

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it is for public service announcements

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what's it used for um for schools but we

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again i think waiting for the

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00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:38,720
regulations to maybe um iron that out a

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bit more

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00:28:40,399 --> 00:28:41,600
would be

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good in murder it does say that it's

421
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going towards um

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00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,000
education funding it's similar to the

423
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,320
new york state lottery system where some

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of those funds are also put into school

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funding as well

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but again it is in addition to the

427
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,200
regular state funding okay and the

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second question is is there going to be

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money

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00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,399
available to communities for from what

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00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:07,760
you receive

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00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,039
for

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training in law enforcement for driving

434
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:12,799
under the influence because that

435
00:29:12,799 --> 00:29:14,799
training is very specific it's very

436
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:16,960
expensive and that's going to be a

437
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,360
problem yeah and i

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00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:21,600
you know i think most people realize

439
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,919
unlike with alcohol with a breathalyzer

440
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:26,320
you know you blow into it there's

441
00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,480
nothing equivalent to that when it comes

442
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:30,559
to cannabis you can't blow into

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something and realize if someone um is

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00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,360
under the influence

445
00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:37,120
um so we do have

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drug recognition expert training and

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00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:44,640
that will be made available towards

448
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,960
local law enforcement and

449
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,360
state law enforcement as well

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and we do want to help assist localities

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00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,279
in getting that training done

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00:29:55,279 --> 00:29:56,480
um

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so so some of that will be available

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um

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00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:02,399
again it's

456
00:30:02,399 --> 00:30:04,320
you know i've been asked many times if

457
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,080
we're moving too quickly because we

458
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:07,200
don't have the equivalent of a

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00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:09,679
breathalyzer and we do have steps and

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00:30:09,679 --> 00:30:11,600
are working with law enforcement to make

461
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:13,679
sure they can properly test and identify

462
00:30:13,679 --> 00:30:14,960
individuals who may be under the

463
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,679
influence of cannabis but that's what we

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00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:20,559
have there is a mandate in murder that

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00:30:20,559 --> 00:30:22,320
asks the office of cannabis management

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00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,720
to be on the lookout for new technology

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00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,440
that may allow individuals to detect

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00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:29,039
cannabis

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00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:31,120
or someone being under the influence so

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it is an ongoing

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00:30:34,399 --> 00:30:36,399
technology that that we're looking for

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00:30:36,399 --> 00:30:38,640
but currently it does not exist so the

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00:30:38,640 --> 00:30:41,440
drug recognition experts or the dres

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um are um is really the front line of

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00:30:44,000 --> 00:30:45,919
detecting individuals who may be under

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00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:48,960
the influence and driving and it is a

477
00:30:48,960 --> 00:30:51,120
similar test to what you've you know

478
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,559
seen um

479
00:30:52,559 --> 00:30:54,720
with individuals being tested for

480
00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,039
alcohol whether it's walking or counting

481
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:58,399
and kind of touching your nose things

482
00:30:58,399 --> 00:30:59,840
like that so

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00:30:59,840 --> 00:31:02,000
um there is training and funding will be

484
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,799
available to local law enforcement for

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00:31:04,799 --> 00:31:07,519
that and lastly how much this money is

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00:31:07,519 --> 00:31:09,760
going to be put towards

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health care since

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00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:13,039
we know there's going to be

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00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:15,279
significant increases in respiratory

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00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,519
disease and other things that that

491
00:31:17,519 --> 00:31:21,440
result from this we do have a robust

492
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,919
health outreach campaign you may have

493
00:31:23,919 --> 00:31:25,919
seen some of our signs wrap around on

494
00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:29,840
some buses around here or on billboards

495
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:32,159
we are reaching out to you know make

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00:31:32,159 --> 00:31:35,360
sure individuals understand the um

497
00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:37,600
health risks associated with this what

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00:31:37,600 --> 00:31:39,360
steps to take

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00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,799
we have quite a bit of information on

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our website as well

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00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:43,600
including you know making sure

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individuals are

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00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,000
locking up these products when um

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00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:50,559
so their kids don't have access to them

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00:31:50,559 --> 00:31:51,679
and

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the the health outreach campaign started

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00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:56,880
i think a month ago or so i want to say

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and we are trying to get the word out of

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00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:03,919
the precautions that people need to take

510
00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:05,519
when dealing with this

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00:32:05,519 --> 00:32:07,279
and a lot of research as well a lot of

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00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:08,880
research in terms of public health

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00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,760
outcomes it's a we have a robust public

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00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:13,279
health

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00:32:13,279 --> 00:32:14,880
component to this

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00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,120
to get a better understanding of what

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00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,640
the outcomes would be

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00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,159
we don't really know so there's a lot of

519
00:32:20,159 --> 00:32:21,679
research money being put into research

520
00:32:21,679 --> 00:32:24,549
for that as well

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00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:26,960
other questions

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00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:29,120
mr wings uh so first i'd like to say

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00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:30,159
thank you for being president and i

524
00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:31,200
really appreciate having this

525
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,039
information and i'm uh

526
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:34,799
definitely looking forward to the social

527
00:32:34,799 --> 00:32:36,480
equity component and how that's going to

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00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:37,760
benefit

529
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,960
communities that have been

530
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,039
disproportionately affected by this

531
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,880
i wanted to expand on your one comment

532
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:44,559
about the research that's been going

533
00:32:44,559 --> 00:32:47,919
into the development of murda definitely

534
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:50,480
to council member paul means point we

535
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:51,840
want to make sure this is rolled out

536
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,080
appropriately so can you expand on some

537
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,399
of those considerations to research that

538
00:32:56,399 --> 00:32:57,760
are being

539
00:32:57,760 --> 00:32:59,120
taken to their account

540
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:01,039
to make sure that whatever product is

541
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:03,519
finalized accurately reflects the

542
00:33:03,519 --> 00:33:05,679
governor's intent with this program

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00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:06,559
so

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00:33:06,559 --> 00:33:08,960
when i spoke about research sorry when i

545
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,159
spoke about research i was talking about

546
00:33:10,159 --> 00:33:11,760
publics i don't think i understand your

547
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:13,120
question but i was talking about public

548
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:15,679
health so about um you know marijuana

549
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:17,039
and breastfeeding marijuana and

550
00:33:17,039 --> 00:33:18,559
respiratory problems i was speaking

551
00:33:18,559 --> 00:33:20,240
about this research we're looking

552
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:22,559
closely in terms of public health

553
00:33:22,559 --> 00:33:26,399
outcomes um so i'm not really sure if um

554
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:27,840
if that is what you're asking or you're

555
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:29,440
asking a different question so as the

556
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:31,840
regulations and taxation act is being

557
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:34,640
finalized are you looking at how this is

558
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,240
functioned in other states or under

559
00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,399
other countries or and then kind of

560
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:40,880
pinpointing the equity component

561
00:33:40,880 --> 00:33:42,000
what other

562
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,679
elements have been considered to make

563
00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:46,320
sure this like intently reflects the

564
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:49,600
aims well new york state is right now is

565
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:50,799
really the leader when it comes to

566
00:33:50,799 --> 00:33:52,960
social equity a lot of other states have

567
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,600
um fumbled um you know we're gonna we're

568
00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,919
trying to do this right um we're trying

569
00:33:57,919 --> 00:33:59,760
to make sure that we're impacted people

570
00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:02,080
who are we work that we're we're

571
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:04,000
bringing in people who are impacted on

572
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,080
war drugs we're trying to pull back

573
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:07,919
these businesses we're doing a great job

574
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:10,000
i believe of holding back big businesses

575
00:34:10,000 --> 00:34:11,599
because we're not allowing them to come

576
00:34:11,599 --> 00:34:14,720
in we're allowing um people who

577
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:16,240
again who don't have a lot of money i

578
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,679
think that um the application fee is two thousand

579
00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:21,839
dollars proposed two thousand dollars in

580
00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:23,679
new york state and other states two

581
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:25,599
hundred fifty thousand i mean a lot of

582
00:34:25,599 --> 00:34:27,520
money so i think that in itself is

583
00:34:27,520 --> 00:34:28,960
showing how new york state is trying to

584
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:31,280
do it different um we have got a lot of

585
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:33,919
criticism about the um criteria of

586
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:35,760
having a business but again that's

587
00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,200
proposed we don't know if that will

588
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,200
change if it doesn't change um the

589
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:40,720
thinking behind that is that you know

590
00:34:40,720 --> 00:34:42,960
you're giving someone um

591
00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,560
a million dollar business and so you

592
00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:46,079
want to make sure that you have a person

593
00:34:46,079 --> 00:34:48,320
who has the business aptitude we know

594
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,000
that owning a business is not easy so we

595
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:53,280
want to make sure and these folks are um

596
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:55,359
really the industry's on their back it's

597
00:34:55,359 --> 00:34:57,680
very important that these individuals

598
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,280
are successful right because they're

599
00:34:59,280 --> 00:35:02,560
gonna they're gonna fund the industry um

600
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:04,320
we are you know we look definitely

601
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:05,680
looking at other states and see what

602
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:07,119
they did what they may have done wrong

603
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:08,640
so that we could do some you know to

604
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:10,240
make sure we do it differently um i

605
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:12,960
think the micro um the nine licenses but

606
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:16,320
the micro business license is really important because it allows but

607
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:18,320
not allowing any company to come in and

608
00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,079
own it all right we're not allowing that

609
00:35:20,079 --> 00:35:21,920
you only go on one license you might do

610
00:35:21,920 --> 00:35:23,680
the micro business but it's on a smaller

611
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:27,200
much much smaller scale um anything else

612
00:35:27,200 --> 00:35:28,240
um

613
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:30,400
murder does mandate that we work with

614
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,960
other states and reach out to them so we

615
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,200
have done outreach to other states and

616
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,760
we've certainly been reading um

617
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:40,000
what other states have gone through and

618
00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:42,480
where they had to recalibrate

619
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,839
different aspects uh specifically and to

620
00:35:45,839 --> 00:35:47,680
nevaline's point

621
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,000
with the conditional licensing system

622
00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,079
with the cultivators and the

623
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,560
dispensaries we have the potential to

624
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:57,200
leapfrog virtually every state in the

625
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:58,400
country

626
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:00,079
when it comes to

627
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:02,320
providing assistance and actual

628
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,880
businesses to social equity candidates

629
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,480
one thing we've seen in illinois and

630
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,400
specifically in chicago

631
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:10,079
was

632
00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:12,320
virtually every dispensary right now is

633
00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,320
owned by what we call a multi-state

634
00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,480
operator or mso and those are very large

635
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,640
corporations they're in virtually every

636
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:22,720
state that has legalized either

637
00:36:22,720 --> 00:36:24,640
recreational or medical

638
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:26,800
cannabis and

639
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:29,280
they're able to again when the licenses

640
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,119
come up they have the resources the

641
00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,280
lawyers the money to

642
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,599
grab onto those license very efficiently

643
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,520
as other people are attempting to figure

644
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:39,920
that out so with the conditional system

645
00:36:39,920 --> 00:36:41,920
we have the potential of having more

646
00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,760
social equity candidates owning a

647
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,000
dispensary than other states who've been

648
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,320
doing this for years um so that's just

649
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:50,480
one element of what we're trying to do

650
00:36:50,480 --> 00:36:53,119
and again to your point for the roll out

651
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:56,320
myrta does um ask for 50

652
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,960
of the licenses to be given to social

653
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,800
equity candidates

654
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,440
and um so that's that's an automatic

655
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,520
built-in goal so so both of these

656
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,359
systems that we have

657
00:37:07,359 --> 00:37:10,079
i think are very geared towards social

658
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:12,720
equity candidates again you know working

659
00:37:12,720 --> 00:37:14,400
with other states we can see a lot of

660
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,480
the problems other states have had their

661
00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,040
social equity programs are

662
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:20,839
built from the tax

663
00:37:20,839 --> 00:37:23,839
revenue um and in order to get that tax

664
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:25,520
revenue they need dispensaries up and

665
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,040
running in order to get the dispensaries

666
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:28,000
up and running they go to the

667
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,160
multi-state operators the gigantic

668
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:32,240
companies to start funding the money

669
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:33,839
they will use for social equity

670
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:35,920
candidates we're doing this in reverse

671
00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,760
we're using the conditional licensing

672
00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:38,720
system

673
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:42,880
to start to feed money into the

674
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:45,680
new york state revenue fund and using

675
00:37:45,680 --> 00:37:48,400
that fund to help with murder licenses

676
00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:50,960
and we have the 200 million dollars set

677
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:53,440
aside um that governor hope will put in

678
00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:54,800
her budget

679
00:37:54,800 --> 00:37:58,240
um to help the conditional applicants

680
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:00,079
so i i think in a lot of ways you're

681
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:02,320
going to see us leapfrog other states

682
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:04,880
who have been doing this for years and

683
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:06,720
are nowhere near the social equity

684
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,800
numbers that we hope to have

685
00:38:08,800 --> 00:38:10,560
by the end of the year

686
00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,079
um so i

687
00:38:12,079 --> 00:38:14,880
um yeah i think we're doing we have a

688
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,240
phenomenal plan which is built on the

689
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:23,349
issues we've seen in other states

690
00:38:23,359 --> 00:38:26,079
thank you oh mr mayor and president i

691
00:38:26,079 --> 00:38:28,000
don't think he gave the time

692
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,839
oh i was going to do that for the forum

693
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:35,030
yeah

694
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,560
so i think she did actually say it

695
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:38,560
though but um this coming wednesday for

696
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,640
the for audience members uh that will be

697
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,480
your opportunity to ask questions at

698
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,240
schenectady county public library right

699
00:38:44,240 --> 00:38:46,880
here at 99 clinton from six starting at

700
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,960
6 00 pm 6 pm on time shots

701
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,560
sharp 6 pm sharp and then you'll have

702
00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,680
your opportunity to um ask any questions

703
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,079
can you give them a website where um

704
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:01,119
if can they go just to cannabis.ny.gov

705
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:02,800
so if you have any uh if you want to do

706
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:04,079
some research before the meeting on

707
00:39:04,079 --> 00:39:05,800
wednesday you can go to

708
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,160
cannabis.ny.gov and it'll give you any

709
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,400
updates at that time

710
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:12,240
i will say if you end up going to our

711
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:14,720
website under adult use tab you're going

712
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:17,280
to find a lot of faqs

713
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:18,240
and

714
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:21,920
it will help leapfrog you with a lot of

715
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:23,040
information you're going to jump ahead

716
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,359
of a lot of individuals we have faqs on

717
00:39:25,359 --> 00:39:27,280
a lot of different topics subjects it

718
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:30,480
breaks it down very very well so

719
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:31,920
if you are interested in getting a

720
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:33,760
little bit more information

721
00:39:33,760 --> 00:39:37,829
the faqs are very useful

722
00:39:37,839 --> 00:39:39,359
so thank you for coming this way mr

723
00:39:39,359 --> 00:39:54,710
ramsey we'll see you on wednesday

724
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:57,280
thank you

725
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:58,480
i would like to call government

726
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:00,880
operations together first item is

727
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,480
special assessment district board

728
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:06,000
appointments mr mayor

729
00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,599
chairman you've uh submitted

730
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:12,000
six names your consideration it's been

731
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,280
the process

732
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:15,119
through the recommendation

733
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:16,960
uh

734
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,200
dan can you move that down again process

735
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:21,359
has been developed by dsic in terms of

736
00:40:21,359 --> 00:40:22,480
recruiting

737
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:24,640
individuals with the experience skill

738
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:25,440
set

739
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,520
and vision to keep the

740
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,960
organization in downtown moving forward

741
00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:32,800
that's your favorable consideration for

742
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,200
those names any questions

743
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,040
i don't have a question

744
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:38,800
there's a board member who's leaving who

745
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:43,589
i wanted to speak tonight um

746
00:40:43,599 --> 00:40:49,109
i'm fine with that

747
00:40:49,119 --> 00:40:57,430
please

748
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,440
thank you very much uh

749
00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:05,280
city council members mr mayor thank you have been submitted some bios for

750
00:41:05,280 --> 00:41:07,680
the four candidates that we hope you

751
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:09,359
approve we have a board of nine

752
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:11,760
therefore coming on we have chris

753
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,839
berrigan who's coming off who's been a

754
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:15,680
long time board member and we have

755
00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,760
richard antipal coming off who's been a

756
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,920
long time board member what i just

757
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:22,160
wanted to do is just take one moment and

758
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,319
breathe a little life into the four that

759
00:41:24,319 --> 00:41:26,640
we're proposing if you don't know them

760
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:30,000
already personally we have two with us

761
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:33,280
um andrea cordeloo

762
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:34,400
she has

763
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:37,040
crazy amounts of energy and an ability

764
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:38,720
to rally troops

765
00:41:38,720 --> 00:41:41,200
during a luminosity this year

766
00:41:41,200 --> 00:41:43,119
she had no problems with going into

767
00:41:43,119 --> 00:41:44,319
businesses

768
00:41:44,319 --> 00:41:45,760
and getting them motivated to

769
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:47,440
participate in

770
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:49,359
something that never existed before with

771
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:51,680
a very short amount of time to do it

772
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,800
so we want that sense of more community

773
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,280
downtown from business owners and the

774
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,040
apartment dwellers

775
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:02,800
andrea being with highbridge development

776
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,119
has the access to this and she certainly

777
00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:07,359
has the energy enthusiasm and

778
00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:09,920
personality so we would like her

779
00:42:09,920 --> 00:42:12,960
consideration we also have phil wide up

780
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:15,200
who is here with us he's been at union

781
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,839
college for more than 15 years we're

782
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:19,839
blessed to have two

783
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:23,040
major schools downtown within the dsic

784
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,040
footprint no less

785
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,200
we want those young people

786
00:42:27,200 --> 00:42:30,319
to become a bigger part of our community

787
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:32,800
and we want them here not only to learn

788
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,839
and leave but to stay and so in order to

789
00:42:35,839 --> 00:42:37,680
do that we need to find more ways to

790
00:42:37,680 --> 00:42:39,599
engage them through volunteering

791
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:41,839
internships and find out what what do

792
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:43,440
they want what do they want in their

793
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,400
city to

794
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:45,920
help stay so

795
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,760
phil we're hoping you can help us with

796
00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:48,720
that

797
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:51,119
who is not here this evening is paul

798
00:42:51,119 --> 00:42:53,920
ambrose with paul he really walks the

799
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:57,040
walk paul's building is down on broadway

800
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,680
and he really gets it he gets

801
00:42:59,680 --> 00:43:02,960
the uh importance of continual upkeep

802
00:43:02,960 --> 00:43:04,640
and beautification of the business

803
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,280
owner's property he's well traveled and

804
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,599
he has an appreciation and he's very

805
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,240
observant of what other cities are doing

806
00:43:12,240 --> 00:43:13,040
with

807
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,760
urban beautification and also place

808
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:17,920
making he's passionate he wants it

809
00:43:17,920 --> 00:43:19,760
downtown here and he wants to be a part

810
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,160
of it and the dsic wants to be a big

811
00:43:22,160 --> 00:43:23,920
part of it as well

812
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,720
and then we have mitchell ramsey who is

813
00:43:26,720 --> 00:43:28,160
there oh

814
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:31,760
hi mitch how are you snuck in there okay

815
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,640
so so mitch is really in tune with the

816
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:37,839
younger demographic of the city um

817
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:40,480
i was recently told that the j street

818
00:43:40,480 --> 00:43:43,680
pub is now to the younger generation

819
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,240
what the manhattan exchange was to the

820
00:43:46,240 --> 00:43:48,960
older people in town and she looked at

821
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:52,470
me right in the eye when she said

822
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:55,520
so mitch wants to bring new and creative

823
00:43:55,520 --> 00:43:58,400
entertainment downtown that focuses more

824
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:01,280
on music not just bars not just

825
00:44:01,280 --> 00:44:02,800
restaurants

826
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,960
he gets it we need more diverse

827
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,160
activities and interests uh he also has

828
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,560
a pet peeve for graffiti and oh we're

829
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,400
gonna go there mitch

830
00:44:12,400 --> 00:44:15,520
so um those are the four that we were

831
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,400
hoping you would prove to come on board

832
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:22,240
but due respect to our retiring uh

833
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:24,319
richard and paul he just wanted to take

834
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:26,400
a moment and address the council if you

835
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,950
would please

836
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:31,680
um i'm here in support of the candidates

837
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:32,960
for sure

838
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,280
but what i'm also here about is to say

839
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,760
thank you i i've been on board

840
00:44:37,760 --> 00:44:40,480
i think something over 21 years

841
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:41,440
and

842
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:43,920
there comes a time that enough is enough

843
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,680
and one should step aside and i'm at

844
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:46,960
that point

845
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,560
and i

846
00:44:48,560 --> 00:44:51,280
said to the board you really need to

847
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,400
move on to a new group of people because

848
00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,720
the people of my generation i think i'm

849
00:44:56,720 --> 00:44:58,400
the last of them

850
00:44:58,400 --> 00:44:59,680
on our board

851
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,599
in any event it's time to step away and

852
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:04,480
i really wanted to thank you and the

853
00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:06,800
mayor and the mayor before that

854
00:45:06,800 --> 00:45:09,520
um the support we've had from

855
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:11,359
this council

856
00:45:11,359 --> 00:45:14,480
many of you are rather new here

857
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:15,359
but

858
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:18,640
the council itself is an entity has been

859
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,119
extremely supportive of the dsic for

860
00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:22,880
many many years

861
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:25,280
uh we've played i think a very important

862
00:45:25,280 --> 00:45:26,800
function in

863
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,319
i mean i've had a building down from 19

864
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:32,880
i don't remember 1970 something

865
00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:35,280
uh until i retired and sold it not long

866
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:37,040
ago

867
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,599
and the change that has come about

868
00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:42,240
is just so dramatic

869
00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,240
and the dsic and there are other

870
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:46,880
agencies certainly metroplex in the city

871
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,160
in the county

872
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:50,240
and and there are other agencies who've

873
00:45:50,240 --> 00:45:52,960
done a great deal

874
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:53,920
but uh

875
00:45:53,920 --> 00:45:56,960
the dsic has been an integral player and

876
00:45:56,960 --> 00:45:58,800
i'm very grateful for your support all

877
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,280
this time so thank you very much

878
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:02,800
thank you thank you for your service

879
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:05,440
thank you thank you any comments

880
00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,520
just mr chen there's four new names but

881
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:09,280
there's actually six

882
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:12,240
whose terms are

883
00:46:12,240 --> 00:46:15,200
six terms are up four new names and two

884
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:19,349
bulldogs

885
00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:21,359
i just want to say that i had the

886
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:24,000
pleasure of serving on the board of dsic

887
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,079
until i was elected to city council and

888
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:29,760
needed to retire from the dsic and so i

889
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:31,680
served with both richard and chris for

890
00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:34,079
several years and i just wanted to thank

891
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,720
you guys i mean so much progress was

892
00:46:36,720 --> 00:46:37,599
made

893
00:46:37,599 --> 00:46:40,079
has been made is being made all the time

894
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:42,880
by the dsic and certainly i know

895
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:45,440
the work and the effort that both of you

896
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:46,880
brought to the table

897
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:49,200
at the board meetings every month

898
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,800
and i just wanted to thank you for all

899
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:52,880
that service over all those years

900
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:54,800
that's it one more thing

901
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:58,470
this

902
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:00,720
and most of you know him

903
00:47:00,720 --> 00:47:03,200
but as a retiring board member

904
00:47:03,200 --> 00:47:04,960
i leave us

905
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:06,960
leave you with a comment

906
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,400
um

907
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,800
unless it's the times square corporation

908
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:12,400
which is the business improvement

909
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:16,160
district in manhattan at times square

910
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:18,400
unless it's the times square corporation

911
00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:20,559
calling for him

912
00:47:20,559 --> 00:47:22,800
you would be very foolish to let this

913
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,420
man

914
00:47:24,420 --> 00:47:36,790
[Music]

915
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,319
thank you for your service mr ann

916
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:40,800
collins mr farrigan thank you

917
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:41,920
we have a motion to move these

918
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,400
appointments

919
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,319
government

920
00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:47,920
oh i'm sorry i was working until my

921
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:49,520
operations yeah i was looking at it i'll

922
00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:50,559
move it

923
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:54,640
second all in favor aye aye thank you

924
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,800
the next item is planning commission

925
00:47:56,800 --> 00:47:59,280
appointments yes

926
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:02,240
as we go down through the uh the rewards

927
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:15,430
these vacancies or uh

928
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:18,069
any comments

929
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:20,880
second all in favor all right all right

930
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,960
we have a motion to adjourn

931
00:48:22,960 --> 00:48:27,109
second all in favor aye aye aye

932
00:48:27,119 --> 00:48:30,400
cult order finance committee the first

933
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:33,520
item is a 2022 budget amendment by

934
00:48:33,520 --> 00:48:46,829
department chief

935
00:48:46,839 --> 00:48:51,990
moreno good evening everyone

936
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,920
all right so we're here tonight uh to

937
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,760
make a proposal

938
00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,280
um

939
00:48:57,280 --> 00:48:59,040
when chief senator left an appointment

940
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,800
was made for chief

941
00:49:00,800 --> 00:49:04,079
i was the assistant chief i moved up to

942
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,000
typically normally what would happen we

943
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:08,480
would have a list for assistance

944
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:10,880
potential citizenship candidates

945
00:49:10,880 --> 00:49:12,800
and we would do interviews and they

946
00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:15,200
would appoint someone to assistant

947
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,480
unfortunately

948
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,640
we do not have a list right now we

949
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:20,720
currently have requested

950
00:49:20,720 --> 00:49:21,839
a uh

951
00:49:21,839 --> 00:49:23,599
an exam that's going to be

952
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,079
given probably in december

953
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:28,480
and by the time that is

954
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:31,040
graded and certified

955
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,760
probably won't be until the beginning of

956
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,079
2023 the first quarter i'll open the

957
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:38,079
2023.

958
00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:40,079
in the meantime all that work still

959
00:49:40,079 --> 00:49:43,680
needs to go on so the proposal is to

960
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:45,200
make a

961
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,680
another an additional deputy chief that

962
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:48,559
would

963
00:49:48,559 --> 00:49:50,800
take up some of those duties that the

964
00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,319
assistant chief would

965
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:54,160
be handling because

966
00:49:54,160 --> 00:49:55,440
that person is not going to be an

967
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,720
assistant chief

968
00:49:56,720 --> 00:50:01,670
he would be deputy chief

969
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,839
in the first quarter when someone is

970
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:06,319
promoted to assistant chief there'd be

971
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:08,800
no need to make the deputy chief because

972
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,040
we're prematurely doing that

973
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:12,559
so that's the proposal

974
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,960
uh anthony will tell you it's um

975
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:17,359
it's financially it's uh it's uh budget

976
00:50:17,359 --> 00:50:19,440
neutral uh what we're doing is taking uh

977
00:50:19,440 --> 00:50:21,280
the balance of the

978
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,079
assistant fire chief salary and we're

979
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:25,440
creating the new

980
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:27,520
deputy fire chief so nothing will be

981
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,589
changing on that

982
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:34,309
any questions

983
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,319
just get into my intent to have the five

984
00:50:36,319 --> 00:50:38,079
deputy chiefs

985
00:50:38,079 --> 00:50:39,280
when we make the appointment for the

986
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,440
assistant chief we go back and abolish

987
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,559
one of the uh deputy chiefs

988
00:50:44,559 --> 00:50:48,390
that's correct

989
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:53,990
second all in favor all right thank you

990
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,680
the next item is the amendment to the

991
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:59,040
2022 2023 action plan allocation

992
00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:02,559
an adoption of the 2022 2023 final

993
00:51:02,559 --> 00:51:05,200
annual action plan this year

994
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,599
good morning everyone um a couple weeks

995
00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:09,520
ago we brought the annual action plan

996
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:10,880
for adoption

997
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:12,480
at that time we didn't have the final

998
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:14,000
numbers from hud

999
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,800
um

1000
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:16,480
just last i believe wednesday or

1001
00:51:16,480 --> 00:51:19,200
thursday we got the final numbers

1002
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:20,240
overall

1003
00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:21,040
we

1004
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,880
saw probably about a five thousand

1005
00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,400
dollar decrease

1006
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,800
um but it affects each pot of money

1007
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,599
differently so with cdbg we went down

1008
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,040
about five percent

1009
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:32,800
for the home funding we went up a little

1010
00:51:32,800 --> 00:51:34,559
over 11

1011
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,280
and for the emergency solutions grant we

1012
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:39,440
went down about three percent

1013
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:42,160
so the budget that we have here reflects

1014
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,760
what we put in the public notice we

1015
00:51:43,760 --> 00:51:46,960
basically decreased the cdbg categories

1016
00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,200
proportionally um that's because we have

1017
00:51:49,200 --> 00:51:51,040
to stay within our public service cap

1018
00:51:51,040 --> 00:51:53,920
and administrative cap um so that's what

1019
00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,920
the budget reflects and we're here to

1020
00:51:55,920 --> 00:51:58,160
just adopt these amendments based on our

1021
00:51:58,160 --> 00:52:02,390
final allocation um from friends

1022
00:52:02,400 --> 00:52:09,430
questions

1023
00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,559
definitely

1024
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:11,839
as a

1025
00:52:11,839 --> 00:52:13,280
new councilmember understanding the

1026
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,800
amount of work that goes into making

1027
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:16,079
sure the funds are dispersed

1028
00:52:16,079 --> 00:52:17,839
appropriately across the city is

1029
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:20,160
definitely a tireless uh appreciate what

1030
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:21,680
your office is doing one of the

1031
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:23,760
questions i had was

1032
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,839
as these funds are dispersed to their

1033
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:26,960
specific

1034
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:29,440
organizations or entities is there

1035
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,400
auditing procedures to ensure that those

1036
00:52:32,400 --> 00:52:34,480
funds are used appropriately

1037
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:37,119
yeah yeah so we have a program monitor

1038
00:52:37,119 --> 00:52:38,400
that actually works with the

1039
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,800
organizations each year to monitor the

1040
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,160
programs

1041
00:52:42,160 --> 00:52:44,720
we also get monitored by hud who comes

1042
00:52:44,720 --> 00:52:46,960
in and picks a select number of projects

1043
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:48,640
usually each year that's going to be

1044
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:50,800
happening in august um so there's a

1045
00:52:50,800 --> 00:52:52,079
number of different and then there's our

1046
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:53,760
internal audit that happens through the

1047
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,359
finance department

1048
00:52:55,359 --> 00:52:57,920
um so there's a number of different ways

1049
00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,440
that the funding is you know is is

1050
00:53:01,440 --> 00:53:03,040
sought over i don't know if you have

1051
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:04,800
anything else to add dan

1052
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:05,520
but

1053
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,440
yeah pretty much you know every time

1054
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:09,440
anybody sends a payment after we also

1055
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:10,480
check in

1056
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:15,910
we get verified that they

1057
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:17,280
that's the one thing that's difficult

1058
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,720
about the funds is that they're actually

1059
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:20,880
they come with a lot of regulations you

1060
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:23,280
know and so they're hard to spend as we

1061
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,599
kind of see in different scenarios and

1062
00:53:25,599 --> 00:53:27,920
really we try to do our best to position

1063
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:29,599
people and to provide updates to the

1064
00:53:29,599 --> 00:53:32,240
council when things change um you know

1065
00:53:32,240 --> 00:53:33,839
some projects are more complex than

1066
00:53:33,839 --> 00:53:35,440
others some things are programmed some

1067
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:37,680
are more construction related so there's

1068
00:53:37,680 --> 00:53:40,400
a wide variation of the things that we

1069
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:48,100
fund and we

1070
00:53:48,110 --> 00:53:54,710
[Music]

1071
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,960
thank you

1072
00:53:56,960 --> 00:53:59,119
the next item is the amendment to the

1073
00:53:59,119 --> 00:54:01,680
cdbg contract with miracle on price

1074
00:54:01,680 --> 00:54:03,760
stream with dm

1075
00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,559
so this is um in relation to our

1076
00:54:06,559 --> 00:54:08,480
contract with miracle craigslist we have

1077
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:10,559
ray frazier here tonight um from the

1078
00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:12,640
organization um just for a little

1079
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:14,720
background um for some of our newer

1080
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:17,839
members in the 2018-19 action plan we

1081
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:20,319
allocated 150 000

1082
00:54:20,319 --> 00:54:22,240
to the marathon craig street project as

1083
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:25,119
the former carver community center

1084
00:54:25,119 --> 00:54:27,440
and the organization has a use agreement

1085
00:54:27,440 --> 00:54:30,160
with the city that was executed and also

1086
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:33,040
at the end of 2019 for the parcels here

1087
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:36,799
um so far a lot of work has happened

1088
00:54:36,799 --> 00:54:38,319
it's been a slower process due to

1089
00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:40,319
probing and other you know delays with

1090
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:41,200
things

1091
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:42,799
but the electricity has been hooked up

1092
00:54:42,799 --> 00:54:45,200
to the property a feasibility study was

1093
00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,280
completed there was asbestos and lead

1094
00:54:47,280 --> 00:54:48,960
assessments and a lot of other work that

1095
00:54:48,960 --> 00:54:53,200
i'm sure ray can fill you in on um

1096
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:55,440
as we're reevaluating how to continue to

1097
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,599
move the project forward and some of the

1098
00:54:57,599 --> 00:55:00,079
difficulties with getting the original

1099
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:01,520
scope was around the mechanical

1100
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:04,880
electrical plumbing um i think we're at

1101
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:06,799
this point we're looking to put some

1102
00:55:06,799 --> 00:55:08,720
funding towards architectural drawings

1103
00:55:08,720 --> 00:55:11,040
working with um tap i believe that's

1104
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:12,160
official

1105
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:14,960
um who's gonna come in and actually do

1106
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:16,559
um architectural drawings we can get

1107
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,720
updated updated class estimates on the

1108
00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:20,079
project

1109
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:21,839
and they have other things that are in

1110
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:23,839
their scope that i'll also

1111
00:55:23,839 --> 00:55:26,000
allow ray to speak on but this is just

1112
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,240
an approval asking for approval from the

1113
00:55:28,240 --> 00:55:30,079
city council to extend our period of

1114
00:55:30,079 --> 00:55:32,000
performance with the contract with mayor

1115
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:33,599
cole credit street

1116
00:55:33,599 --> 00:55:36,559
until july of 2023 and to amend the

1117
00:55:36,559 --> 00:55:38,720
budget to include um what has been

1118
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:41,280
attached um

1119
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:44,480
as as the scope of work to complete the

1120
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,240
use of that funding

1121
00:55:46,240 --> 00:55:48,400
um so i'll turn it over to ray for

1122
00:55:48,400 --> 00:55:50,319
anything else you want to add or

1123
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:51,920
uh just to kind of catch everyone up to

1124
00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:55,040
speed um for some of the new faces here

1125
00:55:55,040 --> 00:55:56,240
um

1126
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,079
since 2015

1127
00:55:58,079 --> 00:56:00,720
we've been operating

1128
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,480
strictly all volunteering and raising

1129
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,359
funds on our own um funds that we raised

1130
00:56:05,359 --> 00:56:09,040
were from interfaith church grants um

1131
00:56:09,040 --> 00:56:10,400
gofundmes

1132
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:11,520
um

1133
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,240
also we got a grant from united way uh

1134
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:16,640
which was directed specifically for by

1135
00:56:16,640 --> 00:56:19,200
poc organizations um and that's how

1136
00:56:19,200 --> 00:56:21,440
we've been able to fund our operating

1137
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,200
budget uh and raise funds for our

1138
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:26,160
capital budget um so

1139
00:56:26,160 --> 00:56:27,680
carver does have you know bills that we

1140
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,200
have to pay every month

1141
00:56:29,200 --> 00:56:32,000
so those have been being taken care of

1142
00:56:32,000 --> 00:56:34,240
based off fundraising

1143
00:56:34,240 --> 00:56:36,880
um i'm sure you guys got the budget so

1144
00:56:36,880 --> 00:56:39,040
i'm just going to go down the list and

1145
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,319
if you guys have any clarifying

1146
00:56:40,319 --> 00:56:42,480
questions feel free to ask

1147
00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:44,240
i do want to mention that uh two of our

1148
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:45,920
board members are president we have uh

1149
00:56:45,920 --> 00:56:48,480
raishia turner who is our uh governing

1150
00:56:48,480 --> 00:56:51,599
chair and uh nick who is our board

1151
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:54,400
secretary um i just couldn't make it too

1152
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,920
short notice and we wanted to get on the

1153
00:56:55,920 --> 00:56:58,559
agenda as best possible so we go down

1154
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:00,720
the list we have our

1155
00:57:00,720 --> 00:57:02,160
tap budget

1156
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,200
which consists of

1157
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:07,839
preliminary design municipal approvals

1158
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:09,520
design development construction

1159
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,119
documents

1160
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:13,680
those documents will get us up to

1161
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:15,839
standards to start the actual

1162
00:57:15,839 --> 00:57:17,440
construction phase

1163
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,760
um as i said um

1164
00:57:19,760 --> 00:57:21,280
you know the condition of the building

1165
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,200
and i encourage you know you guys to

1166
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,520
come to a walk through just to see

1167
00:57:25,520 --> 00:57:28,319
um how far we've actually gone or we've

1168
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:29,119
come

1169
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:32,880
with just volunteer-based um labor it's

1170
00:57:32,880 --> 00:57:34,880
completely gutting we still have some

1171
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:36,880
floors to rip up and some paint scraping

1172
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:38,240
which we'll see that

1173
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,880
we plan to hire seat center um as

1174
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,480
volunteers for all these years is

1175
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:44,880
incredibly overwhelming so we're in a

1176
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:46,480
position where we need to you know hire

1177
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:49,200
some help some professional help to

1178
00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:50,480
get us moving

1179
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:51,680
um

1180
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:53,680
we also have gotten three different

1181
00:57:53,680 --> 00:57:55,359
estimates for fencing

1182
00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:57,760
we've had a problem with um

1183
00:57:57,760 --> 00:57:59,680
parking and we need to close that off so

1184
00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,520
that we can start you know when we start

1185
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:02,799
the construction and nothing's in the

1186
00:58:02,799 --> 00:58:05,200
way and we can protect the property

1187
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:07,200
so the budget's there for that this was

1188
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:09,359
a pina construction our opinion fenton

1189
00:58:09,359 --> 00:58:11,040
was the lowest

1190
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:12,240
uh

1191
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:14,880
bid so we decided to go with them as

1192
00:58:14,880 --> 00:58:16,720
opposed to the other two

1193
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,799
uh

1194
00:58:18,799 --> 00:58:21,760
and then lastly we have

1195
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:23,760
consultant work from rosa rivera now

1196
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:25,440
consultant is just an umbrella work

1197
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,359
she's really our in-house project

1198
00:58:27,359 --> 00:58:28,400
manager

1199
00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,640
and her duties consist of organizing and

1200
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,720
managing a volunteer professional

1201
00:58:32,720 --> 00:58:35,200
construction renovation at carver

1202
00:58:35,200 --> 00:58:37,200
with community stakeholders

1203
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:38,640
making purchases for construction

1204
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:40,559
renovation supplies

1205
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:42,559
we live in home depot

1206
00:58:42,559 --> 00:58:44,640
support development of capital expenses

1207
00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:46,720
budget and budget projections support

1208
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,319
development of construction grants and

1209
00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:50,480
reporting networking interface with

1210
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:51,920
construction project contractors

1211
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:54,559
professional services and consultants

1212
00:58:54,559 --> 00:58:56,559
oversee current capital utilities and

1213
00:58:56,559 --> 00:58:59,440
systems use on site support community

1214
00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:01,440
engagement around construction project

1215
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:03,280
support leadership development and

1216
00:59:03,280 --> 00:59:04,799
training of stakeholders and the

1217
00:59:04,799 --> 00:59:07,599
leadership of construction projects

1218
00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:09,359
so yeah our main focus right now is

1219
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,920
construction so any funds that

1220
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,640
you know we're going to spend is

1221
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,829
for moving forward with construction

1222
00:59:19,839 --> 00:59:21,440
and i would just add that you know i

1223
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,280
think getting the actual construction

1224
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,280
documents and getting accurate cost

1225
00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:26,480
estimates is going to put the

1226
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,720
organization in a better position to

1227
00:59:28,720 --> 00:59:30,400
you know get the additional funding

1228
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:32,000
that's needed to complete the project i

1229
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:33,680
think without those things it's really

1230
00:59:33,680 --> 00:59:36,319
difficult to move forward so

1231
00:59:36,319 --> 00:59:37,839
i think it's really important that they

1232
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:40,160
take this step to

1233
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:41,680
get that work completed to move the

1234
00:59:41,680 --> 00:59:46,789
project forward

1235
00:59:46,799 --> 00:59:48,799
so do you have a full board at this

1236
00:59:48,799 --> 00:59:52,000
point in time absolutely yeah so can can

1237
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:54,400
this board organization

1238
00:59:54,400 --> 00:59:58,240
consultant be done in-house by the board

1239
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:00,079
rather than paying someone that's a

1240
01:00:00,079 --> 01:00:02,319
great question no one knows this project

1241
01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:03,680
better derozan

1242
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:05,440
no one um

1243
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:06,400
and

1244
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,680
it just makes sense for her to be

1245
01:00:09,680 --> 01:00:12,710
the site

1246
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,839
operator or project or operator because

1247
01:00:15,839 --> 01:00:17,760
she knows the ins and outs you know it

1248
01:00:17,760 --> 01:00:20,240
would take a lot for it again

1249
01:00:20,240 --> 01:00:22,480
volunteering for so many years is

1250
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:24,400
incredibly overwhelming

1251
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:27,520
and you know it's

1252
01:00:27,520 --> 01:00:30,079
every organization has an insight

1253
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:32,319
a project manager every single one it's

1254
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:34,720
kind of unheard of to not have a paid

1255
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,960
employee to take care of these things to

1256
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,720
make sure that things are moving or

1257
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:41,040
progressing in an appropriate manner

1258
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:42,720
so we wouldn't feel comfortable with

1259
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:44,079
anybody else but her because no one

1260
01:00:44,079 --> 01:00:46,240
knows the project best

1261
01:00:46,240 --> 01:00:48,160
or more i should say

1262
01:00:48,160 --> 01:00:49,119
when you're going to hire you're going

1263
01:00:49,119 --> 01:00:50,880
to hire prime contractors you're going

1264
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:53,680
to hire a design

1265
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:55,520
company you're going to hire

1266
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:57,119
contractor they got to have people their

1267
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:59,839
engineers also to see the projects

1268
01:00:59,839 --> 01:01:02,000
so why spending twenty nine thousand

1269
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,799
dollars for someone to

1270
01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:07,119
tell these professionals what to do

1271
01:01:07,119 --> 01:01:08,799
well it's not really her telling them

1272
01:01:08,799 --> 01:01:10,480
what to do right

1273
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:12,960
it's her assisting them because she

1274
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:14,559
knows the project so any questions or

1275
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:16,480
documents that need to be prepared and

1276
01:01:16,480 --> 01:01:18,480
any trainings that need to happen would

1277
01:01:18,480 --> 01:01:22,079
go through rosa right so again as i said

1278
01:01:22,079 --> 01:01:26,160
right now we don't have any funds to um

1279
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:27,119
manage

1280
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,359
the project or see the project correct

1281
01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:32,240
right so as i said i invite you please

1282
01:01:32,240 --> 01:01:34,319
come see it yourself to so i can speak

1283
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:37,200
better to what i'm saying since 2015

1284
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:38,720
it's been us completely volunteering

1285
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,559
right and we've been able to raise

1286
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:42,319
funds to

1287
01:01:42,319 --> 01:01:43,920
pay rosa to

1288
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:45,440
keep us afloat

1289
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:46,880
without her it's i don't know where

1290
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,920
we've been

1291
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:50,160
but like i said the building has been

1292
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:54,549
completely gutted under her leadership

1293
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,000
and we want to keep making headway on

1294
01:01:56,000 --> 01:01:58,710
that

1295
01:01:58,720 --> 01:02:00,880
is this person a board member currently

1296
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:04,870
board member she's not

1297
01:02:04,880 --> 01:02:08,870
kenny

1298
01:02:08,880 --> 01:02:10,559
i don't think i distributed it as part

1299
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:12,079
of this but if you want to see that i

1300
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:16,789
can send it to you

1301
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:18,640
go ahead please my question actually is

1302
01:02:18,640 --> 01:02:20,480
probably for um for you

1303
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:21,760
um kristen

1304
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,280
how does this particular position sl um

1305
01:02:25,280 --> 01:02:27,119
the money that this category this is

1306
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:29,520
coming from does that fit under that

1307
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:31,200
because i know that there's certain ways

1308
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:32,640
we can spend money in other ways that we

1309
01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:35,680
cannot so i have some concerns around

1310
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,400
that to make sure it is a public works

1311
01:02:38,400 --> 01:02:41,039
project and we do have an admin cap for

1312
01:02:41,039 --> 01:02:44,079
certain you know things um and dan would

1313
01:02:44,079 --> 01:02:44,960
probably

1314
01:02:44,960 --> 01:02:47,440
he kind of knows the guidance better i

1315
01:02:47,440 --> 01:02:49,680
don't think that it's if it's as long as

1316
01:02:49,680 --> 01:02:51,520
what we've said as long as it's directly

1317
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:52,960
related to the management of the

1318
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:54,400
construction

1319
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,960
um it's something that is eligible

1320
01:02:56,960 --> 01:02:58,000
through

1321
01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,960
the public works funds um so as long as

1322
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,799
it's that it can't pay for things

1323
01:03:02,799 --> 01:03:05,359
outside of that and we would you know we

1324
01:03:05,359 --> 01:03:07,359
would need the documentation in order to

1325
01:03:07,359 --> 01:03:08,640
pay

1326
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:10,240
um

1327
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,880
to pay any invoice we need you know the

1328
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:20,470
things that show

1329
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:21,839
well i was going to ask you you read

1330
01:03:21,839 --> 01:03:22,640
from

1331
01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:24,400
um you have all the other documentation

1332
01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:26,400
in front of it but we didn't have the

1333
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:27,920
what you whatever you read in terms of

1334
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:29,920
what the responsibilities for this

1335
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:31,440
individual would do i think that's

1336
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,280
important that the um we'll be able to

1337
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:34,799
have that documentation to review

1338
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:37,039
absolutely i did provide a contract and

1339
01:03:37,039 --> 01:03:40,160
i sent it over to kristin um and we can

1340
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:42,400
listen since 2015 we provided everything

1341
01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:44,160
that has been asked of us and we have no

1342
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:45,920
problem continuing to do that whatever

1343
01:03:45,920 --> 01:03:47,520
appropriate documentation needs to be

1344
01:03:47,520 --> 01:03:49,680
presented we have no problem doing that

1345
01:03:49,680 --> 01:03:52,240
but yeah he did send me the contract i

1346
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:54,160
didn't know if he wanted me to send a

1347
01:03:54,160 --> 01:03:55,760
contract but because a lot of people

1348
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:56,960
send us a lot of documents we don't

1349
01:03:56,960 --> 01:03:58,720
necessarily send everybody if that's

1350
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:00,799
something you want so no i wasn't

1351
01:04:00,799 --> 01:04:01,760
i'm sorry

1352
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:03,200
i wasn't asking for the contract but i

1353
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,200
was asking for um just a list like the

1354
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:06,880
duties that you scoped the work that

1355
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:08,400
you'd be doing not not too necessarily

1356
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:10,000
your entire contract and then wherever

1357
01:04:10,000 --> 01:04:12,720
it is but just how we have here we know

1358
01:04:12,720 --> 01:04:13,920
all this other stuff that's going to be

1359
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:16,000
happening so under this particular piece

1360
01:04:16,000 --> 01:04:17,839
absolutely and i was reading from pretty

1361
01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:20,160
much the contract

1362
01:04:20,160 --> 01:04:21,920
it's okay it states all the duty that

1363
01:04:21,920 --> 01:04:23,920
she would be doing just so everything is

1364
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:26,240
all organized and make sure we can send

1365
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,960
that script along as well yeah

1366
01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:31,200
those are my questions

1367
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:32,400
go ahead please

1368
01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,680
just a clarifying question so i

1369
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,440
understand this if you were to pass out

1370
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,039
a committee tonight

1371
01:04:37,039 --> 01:04:38,960
the cdbg funds that

1372
01:04:38,960 --> 01:04:40,319
are being supposed to be used what

1373
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:42,079
funding year is that

1374
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:44,559
what funding year what funding year 2018

1375
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:47,760
19 19 from that year okay yes okay thank

1376
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:50,390
you

1377
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,119
any other questions

1378
01:04:53,119 --> 01:04:56,480
yeah i also have a concern about the

1379
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,280
29 000 i understand rosa does an

1380
01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,119
incredible amount of work

1381
01:05:01,119 --> 01:05:03,440
but multiple times it's been stated that

1382
01:05:03,440 --> 01:05:06,240
it's a construction project manager

1383
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:07,119
and

1384
01:05:07,119 --> 01:05:09,440
at least to my understanding

1385
01:05:09,440 --> 01:05:11,920
that's not what she does

1386
01:05:11,920 --> 01:05:13,039
uh

1387
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,280
and to mr mutaveron's point it would

1388
01:05:15,280 --> 01:05:17,200
seem to make sense to maybe

1389
01:05:17,200 --> 01:05:18,480
hire

1390
01:05:18,480 --> 01:05:20,880
someone from maybe seat or somebody else

1391
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:24,000
that could supervise the construction

1392
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:26,000
management

1393
01:05:26,000 --> 01:05:27,680
you know it would be

1394
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,119
cheaper

1395
01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:30,480
but also

1396
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:33,839
someone with knowledge of construction

1397
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:35,039
and that's not

1398
01:05:35,039 --> 01:05:37,680
meant as an insult to miss rivera she's

1399
01:05:37,680 --> 01:05:39,920
quite good at what she does but

1400
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:42,000
i don't think she's a construction

1401
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:43,680
person

1402
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:46,319
yeah i think there is a construction

1403
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:48,160
management would happen through tap once

1404
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:51,839
the car once the project got funded um

1405
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:53,920
you know we were talking about a similar

1406
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,000
thing and from my understanding i think

1407
01:05:56,000 --> 01:05:57,839
it's also just some of the grant writing

1408
01:05:57,839 --> 01:05:59,359
and the things that need to happen to

1409
01:05:59,359 --> 01:06:01,920
get the funding for construction

1410
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,960
that is a critical piece of this and i

1411
01:06:04,960 --> 01:06:06,319
think that

1412
01:06:06,319 --> 01:06:07,520
along with

1413
01:06:07,520 --> 01:06:09,359
you know the other things in the scope

1414
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:12,000
that were provided um

1415
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:13,680
so but yeah based on my understanding

1416
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:16,000
there would be a construction manager

1417
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,599
for the project it would most likely be

1418
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:18,799
tap

1419
01:06:18,799 --> 01:06:20,000
yes

1420
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:22,240
and then rosa's role is different from

1421
01:06:22,240 --> 01:06:24,240
that but still related to getting the

1422
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,960
construction done absolutely again we

1423
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:29,920
can send along you know um

1424
01:06:29,920 --> 01:06:32,640
exactly what she'll be doing so that you

1425
01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:34,880
guys can read it

1426
01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:36,079
but

1427
01:06:36,079 --> 01:06:37,760
as kristin just said there's going to be

1428
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:40,319
a specific person dealing with no she's

1429
01:06:40,319 --> 01:06:42,079
not a construction expert

1430
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:43,280
we are going to hire someone

1431
01:06:43,280 --> 01:06:46,319
specifically for that and

1432
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:49,359
rosa's going to be working with them

1433
01:06:49,359 --> 01:06:51,119
so

1434
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:53,119
go ahead please so where is that in the

1435
01:06:53,119 --> 01:06:54,079
budget

1436
01:06:54,079 --> 01:06:56,960
just so we can understand

1437
01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,359
so again it's not on the sheet of paper

1438
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:01,599
that you have in front of you

1439
01:07:01,599 --> 01:07:04,079
but we will provide it i did send an

1440
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:06,480
outline contract to kristin that states

1441
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:07,359
all of

1442
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:10,319
um rose's rules and responsibilities i

1443
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,960
meant the construction manager person

1444
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:14,400
that you were gonna you said you were

1445
01:07:14,400 --> 01:07:17,200
yeah so that was that was part that's

1446
01:07:17,200 --> 01:07:18,960
basically what you're seeing here from

1447
01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,280
the project manager for tap that's up

1448
01:07:21,280 --> 01:07:23,359
through the construction documents

1449
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:26,480
um because once that's done we'll have

1450
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,400
the cost estimate for the project and at

1451
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,559
that point we would you know that's when

1452
01:07:30,559 --> 01:07:33,119
they would go out to bid and actually

1453
01:07:33,119 --> 01:07:34,720
get a construction manager on board it

1454
01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:35,599
would be

1455
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:38,240
it would require additional funds

1456
01:07:38,240 --> 01:07:41,839
to move to that step um beyond the 100

1457
01:07:41,839 --> 01:07:44,160
000 that's currently um

1458
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:47,359
that's currently left in this budget so

1459
01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:49,200
that that would you know we know that

1460
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,280
once this part is done there needs to be

1461
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:52,640
some fundraising and there needs to be

1462
01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:54,880
more money to construct the project and

1463
01:07:54,880 --> 01:07:57,359
at that point that's when

1464
01:07:57,359 --> 01:07:58,960
the construction management and

1465
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,200
administration services would would kick

1466
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,200
in once they're actually moving towards

1467
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,200
construction

1468
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,039
so so some of the description here on

1469
01:08:07,039 --> 01:08:09,200
the tab is almost similar to what you

1470
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:10,720
just read to us

1471
01:08:10,720 --> 01:08:13,760
for the board organization consultant i

1472
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:15,200
think it's very different are we

1473
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:17,679
different yes i mean like design

1474
01:08:17,679 --> 01:08:19,920
development construction documents those

1475
01:08:19,920 --> 01:08:21,120
are things that we're going to be paying

1476
01:08:21,120 --> 01:08:27,030
for that people don't oversee

1477
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:28,960
so i just mentioned that under you know

1478
01:08:28,960 --> 01:08:31,120
the responsibilities that rosa would

1479
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,400
undertake and has been undertaking

1480
01:08:34,400 --> 01:08:37,920
her role is not that we wouldn't want to

1481
01:08:37,920 --> 01:08:40,239
spend money on two roles doing the same

1482
01:08:40,239 --> 01:08:41,600
thing right

1483
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,560
so her role is co-managing

1484
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:45,839
with tap

1485
01:08:45,839 --> 01:08:47,279
alongside

1486
01:08:47,279 --> 01:08:49,600
managing volunteer days

1487
01:08:49,600 --> 01:08:52,480
to continue gutting the building again i

1488
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,080
encourage you to come walk through so we

1489
01:08:54,080 --> 01:08:55,679
can walk and talk so you can see all of

1490
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:58,159
the progress that has been made thus far

1491
01:08:58,159 --> 01:09:01,440
without funding um well with just our

1492
01:09:01,440 --> 01:09:02,719
fundraising

1493
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:04,239
you know um

1494
01:09:04,239 --> 01:09:06,480
but in order to get ahead we we have to

1495
01:09:06,480 --> 01:09:08,000
understand that this is a kind of an

1496
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,400
untraditional project if you will right

1497
01:09:10,400 --> 01:09:11,759
um

1498
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:14,560
it's a dilapidated uh community center

1499
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:17,120
and we've been working on it since 2015.

1500
01:09:17,120 --> 01:09:19,520
we've attained ownership in 2019 and

1501
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:21,359
then a pandemic hit which kind of set us

1502
01:09:21,359 --> 01:09:22,159
back

1503
01:09:22,159 --> 01:09:24,080
and then now we're back on track and

1504
01:09:24,080 --> 01:09:25,920
we've been able to

1505
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,799
continue to progress but it's incredibly

1506
01:09:28,799 --> 01:09:30,719
difficult to continue to progress

1507
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:32,799
without funding this is a multi-million

1508
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:34,960
dollar project right and we're talking

1509
01:09:34,960 --> 01:09:37,279
about 100k right now

1510
01:09:37,279 --> 01:09:39,279
and especially with

1511
01:09:39,279 --> 01:09:40,960
a position i understand your concerns i

1512
01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:42,159
don't want you guys it's just

1513
01:09:42,159 --> 01:09:43,520
frustrating because we've been at this

1514
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:44,319
thing

1515
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:46,880
and volunteering is overwhelming and we

1516
01:09:46,880 --> 01:09:48,880
have one employee

1517
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,719
just one in in-house site manager

1518
01:09:52,719 --> 01:09:54,320
um that we would love to keep because

1519
01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:56,320
like i said no one is more passionate no

1520
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,320
one knows this project better than rosa

1521
01:09:58,320 --> 01:09:59,280
no

1522
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:00,880
so no we don't want to hire anyone from

1523
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:03,280
seat um to do that we would have to

1524
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:04,800
teach them everything you know they

1525
01:10:04,800 --> 01:10:06,880
would have to relearn everything all

1526
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:08,080
over again

1527
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,000
um so it makes sense for her to be the

1528
01:10:10,000 --> 01:10:13,120
person continuing to take charge and to

1529
01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:14,960
work side by side with tech to make sure

1530
01:10:14,960 --> 01:10:16,320
that they have all the things that they

1531
01:10:16,320 --> 01:10:18,320
need to progress and bring the building

1532
01:10:18,320 --> 01:10:19,520
that's called and

1533
01:10:19,520 --> 01:10:21,440
progress with the construction

1534
01:10:21,440 --> 01:10:23,440
so again whatever you guys need we can

1535
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:26,000
provide you with

1536
01:10:26,000 --> 01:10:29,120
hi i know good thank you how much money

1537
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:30,800
has been raised so far in fundraising

1538
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,480
you mentioned through facebook and

1539
01:10:32,480 --> 01:10:34,159
grants and other things

1540
01:10:34,159 --> 01:10:37,360
since 2015 a little over 100k

1541
01:10:37,360 --> 01:10:39,199
i can get you that exact number if you

1542
01:10:39,199 --> 01:10:41,280
would like but since 2015 a little was

1543
01:10:41,280 --> 01:10:43,440
over 100k and that's like i said solely

1544
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,920
based off of fundraising sure and how

1545
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:47,920
has that been spent

1546
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:50,800
up until this point sure um it's been

1547
01:10:50,800 --> 01:10:52,320
spent with different community

1548
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,360
organizations um there was a

1549
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:57,280
construction group in

1550
01:10:57,280 --> 01:10:59,040
washington urban who helped us stuff the

1551
01:10:59,040 --> 01:11:00,640
building

1552
01:11:00,640 --> 01:11:03,280
also with

1553
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:04,719
like i said we have utilities that we

1554
01:11:04,719 --> 01:11:06,480
have to pay for there is electricity in

1555
01:11:06,480 --> 01:11:09,120
the building so our operating budget has

1556
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,000
to be taken care of landscaping and snow

1557
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,760
removal so that we don't get fined

1558
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,080
during so there's you know things that

1559
01:11:16,080 --> 01:11:18,000
we have to pay for you know the budget

1560
01:11:18,000 --> 01:11:19,440
doesn't mean the funds don't just stay

1561
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:22,480
there you know what i mean right so um

1562
01:11:22,480 --> 01:11:23,679
yeah

1563
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:25,520
thank you of

1564
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:27,120
ahead please um

1565
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:31,199
just to go back to um ms rivera's role

1566
01:11:31,199 --> 01:11:34,080
sure she has been employed by miracle

1567
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:36,080
and craig right yeah i think and is the

1568
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:39,199
29 000 her total salary or that's based

1569
01:11:39,199 --> 01:11:42,000
on a six-month contract so

1570
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,080
that she was was had a higher salary

1571
01:11:44,080 --> 01:11:46,320
remember from previous years yeah

1572
01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,719
implementation so where does the rest of

1573
01:11:48,719 --> 01:11:50,480
the salary

1574
01:11:50,480 --> 01:11:52,800
come from i think did you get a grant

1575
01:11:52,800 --> 01:11:54,640
perhaps from a different organization

1576
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,640
united way oh yeah okay so that's

1577
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,560
helping to pay for rose's salary well

1578
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,199
it's it did but so this would be a pay

1579
01:12:01,199 --> 01:12:03,360
cut honestly um

1580
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:05,360
well it'd be six months like i said then

1581
01:12:05,360 --> 01:12:06,880
you wouldn't have to figure out how to

1582
01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:09,199
you know continue funding when we get to

1583
01:12:09,199 --> 01:12:11,360
that point but and just related to the

1584
01:12:11,360 --> 01:12:12,800
construction too

1585
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:19,270
um but yeah it's definitely less yeah okay

1586
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:20,320
yes

1587
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:22,800
um so multi-million dollar project

1588
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:26,239
that's big and so we might have put this

1589
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:30,159
200 000 into it what's the

1590
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:31,440
length of time

1591
01:12:31,440 --> 01:12:35,120
you plan you know on completing this and

1592
01:12:35,120 --> 01:12:37,360
that's very hard to say without funding

1593
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:39,840
you know um i wish i could speak better

1594
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,000
to it um barb couldn't be here it was

1595
01:12:42,000 --> 01:12:44,560
too short notice for her um but you know

1596
01:12:44,560 --> 01:12:46,400
she's the professional in terms of you

1597
01:12:46,400 --> 01:12:48,080
know construction and what it would take

1598
01:12:48,080 --> 01:12:50,719
to get a team in there right um but it's

1599
01:12:50,719 --> 01:12:52,880
hard to say without funding i understand

1600
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:55,280
your passion for it yeah

1601
01:12:55,280 --> 01:12:56,080
that's

1602
01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:57,760
you know

1603
01:12:57,760 --> 01:13:01,120
i think cool um you know this this we're

1604
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,719
looking at by the end of the year we

1605
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:04,880
have the construction documents they're

1606
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:07,040
put out you know we have cost estimates

1607
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:07,679
and

1608
01:13:07,679 --> 01:13:10,239
you know we have a clear picture of what

1609
01:13:10,239 --> 01:13:11,600
is needed

1610
01:13:11,600 --> 01:13:12,400
um

1611
01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:14,080
and that's really the only point that we

1612
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:15,600
can determine what's going to happen

1613
01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,520
from there and i think a lot of the

1614
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,679
other funders that have been talked to

1615
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:21,360
like the metroplex and the community one

1616
01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,280
fund they want to see that

1617
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,280
before they make a commitment

1618
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,000
so

1619
01:13:26,000 --> 01:13:27,040
this step

1620
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:28,239
is critical

1621
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:29,360
you know if it doesn't happen the

1622
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,960
project doesn't doesn't move forward um

1623
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:35,440
but i think that yeah they're very work

1624
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,600
to do and

1625
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:40,400
it's it's not an easy project it's

1626
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:41,840
obviously going to take a lot of

1627
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:44,320
continuous effort to get it done

1628
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:47,040
um

1629
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,800
so from the inception was this

1630
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,239
individual

1631
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:51,520
been getting paid

1632
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:54,719
throughout the entire program say 2015

1633
01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:56,560
all the way to today

1634
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,320
one more time i'm sorry

1635
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:01,360
getting paid all the time from 2015 so

1636
01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:05,120
no she wasn't no she was only getting

1637
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:09,280
paid once we raised funds um well

1638
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,440
so it was a lot of volunteering yeah it

1639
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,360
was a lot of volunteer work so we

1640
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,440
weren't just raising funds to pay to

1641
01:14:15,440 --> 01:14:18,000
rosa so again we have an operating

1642
01:14:18,000 --> 01:14:21,520
budget that we have to take care of um

1643
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,000
so yeah no

1644
01:14:24,000 --> 01:14:26,000
you mentioned united with funding came

1645
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:27,920
from united way correct that didn't come

1646
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:35,840
until later i believe 20 just 2019 or 20 19 yeah i believe i can get you that

1647
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:36,800
day too

1648
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,800
um

1649
01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,040
yeah no my concern isn't like i know i

1650
01:14:41,040 --> 01:14:42,560
can speak i think everybody wants to see

1651
01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:44,480
this project up and running and complete

1652
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:46,480
as fast as possible but we just want to

1653
01:14:46,480 --> 01:14:48,239
make sure we have the right people to do

1654
01:14:48,239 --> 01:14:49,840
the right to work we don't want it to

1655
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:52,239
fall apart my concern is that we should

1656
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:54,159
give this to this

1657
01:14:54,159 --> 01:14:56,960
consultant work to the project

1658
01:14:56,960 --> 01:14:59,280
management tab and let them oversee this

1659
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,040
work they are i'm sure they're going to

1660
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:02,960
put people with experience

1661
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:04,640
who has the knowledge in engineering

1662
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:06,719
construction to carry out to make sure

1663
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:09,760
this project is successful

1664
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:11,280
so i understand what you're saying i

1665
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:12,719
feel like there's a clear

1666
01:15:12,719 --> 01:15:14,400
misunderstanding

1667
01:15:14,400 --> 01:15:17,440
on rose's role she's not going to be in

1668
01:15:17,440 --> 01:15:18,560
there

1669
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:20,000
working with so you have to understand

1670
01:15:20,000 --> 01:15:23,280
when we hire a project manager right so

1671
01:15:23,280 --> 01:15:25,040
when we hire tap on

1672
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,120
tap is going to need to be in direct

1673
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,679
contact with someone who knows the

1674
01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:30,640
project

1675
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,480
and who can make decisions on behalf of

1676
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:35,520
the organization exactly in terms of

1677
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:37,440
really anything that happens so we're

1678
01:15:37,440 --> 01:15:40,880
talking more time and more commitment

1679
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:41,920
um

1680
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,040
we're a board but again there's no one

1681
01:15:45,040 --> 01:15:46,320
who is

1682
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,560
who has committed more than roseanne who

1683
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:51,120
knows the project more in addition to

1684
01:15:51,120 --> 01:15:53,600
that we are still doing volunteer-based

1685
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:56,320
work in the building so we are literally

1686
01:15:56,320 --> 01:15:58,159
prepping the building in safe spaces

1687
01:15:58,159 --> 01:15:59,760
where we can have community members in

1688
01:15:59,760 --> 01:16:02,159
the building continuously prepping the

1689
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:04,080
building for construction so that we can

1690
01:16:04,080 --> 01:16:06,719
save on costs who who's organizing that

1691
01:16:06,719 --> 01:16:08,080
rosa

1692
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,159
that's just one of many things that

1693
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:11,920
she's doing you know like i said we've

1694
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,080
been at this for six seven years now

1695
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:14,880
and

1696
01:16:14,880 --> 01:16:16,880
it's a lot of time and commitment and

1697
01:16:16,880 --> 01:16:19,199
rosa is the sole person who has been

1698
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:21,600
dedicated and committed to

1699
01:16:21,600 --> 01:16:23,199
getting us to a point where we're ready

1700
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:25,199
to have this uh to

1701
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:26,480
have the building being worked on

1702
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,159
constructively

1703
01:16:28,159 --> 01:16:30,159
so you're telling us that rosa is not

1704
01:16:30,159 --> 01:16:32,159
currently a member of the board she is

1705
01:16:32,159 --> 01:16:37,910
not currently

1706
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,400
she resigned so she was the executive

1707
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:43,120
director in the past

1708
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,600
and and now they because they the lack

1709
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:48,320
of funding they don't that they don't

1710
01:16:48,320 --> 01:16:50,560
currently you don't currently have

1711
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,080
that right so the board is kind of

1712
01:16:52,080 --> 01:16:54,000
operating to make decisions

1713
01:16:54,000 --> 01:16:55,760
and they're trying to

1714
01:16:55,760 --> 01:16:58,239
you know consult with rosa to

1715
01:16:58,239 --> 01:16:59,600
oversee

1716
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:00,560
um

1717
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:02,640
correct and she can't play both of those

1718
01:17:02,640 --> 01:17:05,040
positions right so we have to be ethical

1719
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,800
about the decisions that we're making

1720
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,960
into your point um

1721
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,560
again someone who's going to work with

1722
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,159
the construction company has to be able

1723
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:13,840
to make decisions

1724
01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:14,719
um

1725
01:17:14,719 --> 01:17:17,280
for the board and has to be readily

1726
01:17:17,280 --> 01:17:19,440
available to do these things

1727
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:20,560
um

1728
01:17:20,560 --> 01:17:21,760
but again

1729
01:17:21,760 --> 01:17:23,840
the two roles are very very different i

1730
01:17:23,840 --> 01:17:26,000
don't know how much more clear i can be

1731
01:17:26,000 --> 01:17:33,910
on that

1732
01:17:33,920 --> 01:17:35,600
i mean you guys know us right

1733
01:17:35,600 --> 01:17:38,480
you guys we're you know who we are we've

1734
01:17:38,480 --> 01:17:40,239
been very familiar

1735
01:17:40,239 --> 01:17:42,640
our question here is not to be like anti

1736
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,400
against this project we want the best we

1737
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:46,400
have seen over the last five six years

1738
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:48,320
seven years the struggle to get this

1739
01:17:48,320 --> 01:17:50,239
project where it's coming and

1740
01:17:50,239 --> 01:17:52,080
funding is not available we have the

1741
01:17:52,080 --> 01:17:53,920
funding here we can't spend it and here

1742
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:56,000
we are making accommodation to spend the

1743
01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:56,960
fun

1744
01:17:56,960 --> 01:17:58,800
but there are some line items that are

1745
01:17:58,800 --> 01:18:00,239
questionable

1746
01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:01,600
and then they are not cute they are

1747
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:03,120
supporting documents that was not

1748
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:04,960
provided to us

1749
01:18:04,960 --> 01:18:07,040
so i don't know if we can

1750
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:09,600
i'm inclined to hold it unless the

1751
01:18:09,600 --> 01:18:11,760
finance committee wants to provide

1752
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,120
i'm inclined to hold this until you

1753
01:18:13,120 --> 01:18:15,360
receive all the other documents i can i

1754
01:18:15,360 --> 01:18:17,840
can send you what you asked like tonight

1755
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:19,600
if you know

1756
01:18:19,600 --> 01:18:21,840
i mean it's really just the scope that

1757
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:23,280
ray read

1758
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:25,520
i just i think there's too many

1759
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,080
questions and it'd be nice to get the

1760
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:30,800
information and go through it and

1761
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,960
hash this out once and for all to make

1762
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:34,640
sure we can move forward and make sure

1763
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,719
the project is successful

1764
01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:39,360
and and get it headed in

1765
01:18:39,360 --> 01:18:40,400
a

1766
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,679
more

1767
01:18:41,679 --> 01:18:44,080
steep trajectory of getting completed so

1768
01:18:44,080 --> 01:18:46,960
i would be in favor of waiting on this

1769
01:18:46,960 --> 01:18:48,800
yeah go ahead please

1770
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:50,560
so i hope my silence hasn't been like

1771
01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:52,239
off-putting just listening and making

1772
01:18:52,239 --> 01:18:53,360
sure i have

1773
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:55,040
each of the fellow council members kind

1774
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:56,480
of perspective

1775
01:18:56,480 --> 01:18:59,120
definitely i would agree absent having

1776
01:18:59,120 --> 01:19:02,159
uh just a document in front of us

1777
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:04,400
a lot of words are getting thrown around

1778
01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,080
so i definitely understand wanting to

1779
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:07,679
have something on paper would help be

1780
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:09,920
able to differentiate between

1781
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,760
uh what is the position or

1782
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:13,360
responsibilities of a project manager

1783
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:15,199
through tech and like you're mentioning

1784
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:17,840
how there are differences with rose's

1785
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:20,000
role with this project so definitely

1786
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,800
having the contract but then also um mr

1787
01:19:22,800 --> 01:19:24,880
munibrand was mentioning having the

1788
01:19:24,880 --> 01:19:27,040
additional time to allow members to come

1789
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,480
out and see the project and have a

1790
01:19:30,480 --> 01:19:32,800
hands-on understanding of the the work

1791
01:19:32,800 --> 01:19:34,560
and magnitude of what's been coming on i

1792
01:19:34,560 --> 01:19:35,600
think that'll put everything into

1793
01:19:35,600 --> 01:19:37,280
perspective so

1794
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:40,400
i think having the document the contract

1795
01:19:40,400 --> 01:19:42,719
uh allowing the members the time to work

1796
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:45,040
through it and then also uh challenging

1797
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,550
us to come out and see work

1798
01:19:48,560 --> 01:19:52,000
yeah so please uh provide the documents

1799
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:54,800
not requested and we can register two

1800
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,480
weeks

1801
01:19:56,480 --> 01:19:59,040
so i would um you know the challenge

1802
01:19:59,040 --> 01:20:01,600
part i like that

1803
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:03,360
i do i do because you know we've been

1804
01:20:03,360 --> 01:20:06,639
challenged since 2015 to provide thing

1805
01:20:06,639 --> 01:20:08,880
after thing after thing um you know

1806
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,719
which makes sense you know you guys want

1807
01:20:10,719 --> 01:20:13,360
to see this happen um

1808
01:20:13,360 --> 01:20:14,960
so we would love to see you guys come

1809
01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,719
and see all the hard work that has been

1810
01:20:16,719 --> 01:20:17,920
happening because it's incredibly

1811
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:20,320
daunting for us to continue to show up

1812
01:20:20,320 --> 01:20:22,960
right and then to we have to kind of

1813
01:20:22,960 --> 01:20:25,040
wait you know it almost feels like you

1814
01:20:25,040 --> 01:20:27,360
kind of don't trust us you know i

1815
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:29,360
understand having supporting documents

1816
01:20:29,360 --> 01:20:30,960
and we can give you whatever you guys

1817
01:20:30,960 --> 01:20:34,159
need as we always have um

1818
01:20:34,159 --> 01:20:36,960
but you know i've only seen uh miss

1819
01:20:36,960 --> 01:20:39,760
porterfield and mr carl williams come

1820
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,560
out and actually see physically the work

1821
01:20:42,560 --> 01:20:44,480
that has been done so i understand how

1822
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:45,760
it could be difficult for you to

1823
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,120
understand all the work that has been

1824
01:20:47,120 --> 01:20:49,760
going into it and

1825
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:52,480
the lack of understanding of rosa's role

1826
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:54,400
without really seeing

1827
01:20:54,400 --> 01:20:57,120
the project physically or coming out to

1828
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,360
one of the renovation saturdays that we

1829
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:02,159
hold every single saturday um

1830
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:06,080
of the month aside from winter um

1831
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:08,639
so yeah please come out and show us that

1832
01:21:08,639 --> 01:21:10,080
you you know would like to see this

1833
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:11,600
thing and i don't mean to be aggressive

1834
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,120
or anything i'm just passionate you know

1835
01:21:13,120 --> 01:21:15,679
what i mean um i'm from hamilton hill

1836
01:21:15,679 --> 01:21:17,360
you know we've been here for six seven

1837
01:21:17,360 --> 01:21:19,679
years and we're still presenting and

1838
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:22,320
we're still showing up for community uh

1839
01:21:22,320 --> 01:21:25,040
as they continue to show it for us so

1840
01:21:25,040 --> 01:21:27,360
you know we just really look forward to

1841
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,000
you know continuing support

1842
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:31,920
so can you email some of the dates that

1843
01:21:31,920 --> 01:21:34,400
the center is open to the entire console

1844
01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,480
and we can try our best so thank you at

1845
01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:37,520
the time

1846
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,000
i'll send it to you please send it to us

1847
01:21:40,000 --> 01:21:43,360
to be there surely so i just want to be

1848
01:21:43,360 --> 01:21:44,960
clear it's really it's not about us not

1849
01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,520
trusting but we have to be accountable

1850
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:49,199
to the people who give us the money for

1851
01:21:49,199 --> 01:21:51,360
how we're spending the money so

1852
01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:52,800
we have to ask those questions so we

1853
01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:54,719
have to be able to answer so we have to

1854
01:21:54,719 --> 01:21:56,639
get the answers from you understood and

1855
01:21:56,639 --> 01:22:00,000
you'll get it okay okay all right

1856
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,679
because i'm a fan of the project as you

1857
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:03,760
know i do know

1858
01:22:03,760 --> 01:22:06,159
any other questions comments all right

1859
01:22:06,159 --> 01:22:07,840
so we'll get the information and we'll

1860
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:10,400
have this back in two weeks

1861
01:22:10,400 --> 01:22:11,840
so i'm sorry what was the time frame

1862
01:22:11,840 --> 01:22:13,440
once we get the information

1863
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:15,280
we'll come back we'll come back to the

1864
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:19,270
next committee meeting in two weeks

1865
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,629
thank you

1866
01:22:22,639 --> 01:22:25,199
the next item is the 202 budget and

1867
01:22:25,199 --> 01:22:28,000
position reappropriation department of

1868
01:22:28,000 --> 01:22:30,000
development

1869
01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:43,750
mr ferrari

1870
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:46,960
also president city council mayor uh

1871
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:48,880
you know the city finance department in

1872
01:22:48,880 --> 01:22:51,280
the 22 budget had a

1873
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,159
position of administrative assistant

1874
01:22:54,159 --> 01:22:56,000
but during uh during the year that

1875
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:58,320
person has uh has

1876
01:22:58,320 --> 01:23:00,560
gone back to her previous job

1877
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:03,360
and as our department reviewing the

1878
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:04,960
needs that we have we

1879
01:23:04,960 --> 01:23:06,800
realized what we really needed was an

1880
01:23:06,800 --> 01:23:08,719
accountant or junior yeah

1881
01:23:08,719 --> 01:23:10,800
i think we're doing the um i think oh

1882
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:16,229
please do it oh department i'm sorry

1883
01:23:16,239 --> 01:23:17,120
good

1884
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:18,639
again

1885
01:23:18,639 --> 01:23:20,560
the city development department

1886
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:25,199
kristen's here uh you know the the department itself

1887
01:23:25,199 --> 01:23:27,679
lost uh two positions uh housing uh

1888
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:30,560
person uh person and uh the zombie

1889
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:33,760
administrator who uh who was uh with a

1890
01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:35,280
grant avi

1891
01:23:35,280 --> 01:23:37,600
so uh as you know the projects that the

1892
01:23:37,600 --> 01:23:39,520
development department is uh coming up

1893
01:23:39,520 --> 01:23:41,040
with uh you know what's happening on

1894
01:23:41,040 --> 01:23:42,400
crane street in mount pleasant and all

1895
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:45,040
the areas uh it came to

1896
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:47,120
talking with kristen that she would love

1897
01:23:47,120 --> 01:23:49,199
to get an additional assistant planner

1898
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:51,520
to help complete these tests uh once

1899
01:23:51,520 --> 01:23:55,920
again this is a a budget neutral effect

1900
01:23:55,920 --> 01:23:58,320
we take the part-time salary uh

1901
01:23:58,320 --> 01:24:00,960
the person who had left

1902
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:03,440
and her budget and now it's more than

1903
01:24:03,440 --> 01:24:05,679
enough to help the assistant planner for

1904
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:07,760
the rest of the year

1905
01:24:07,760 --> 01:24:09,520
uh if you have any questions so you can

1906
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:10,480
ask

1907
01:24:10,480 --> 01:24:11,760
kristin

1908
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,239
so this part-time seasonal salary is

1909
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:16,239
from the department of development yes

1910
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:18,239
dear genter who worked with us for

1911
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:20,159
probably over 40 years she retired a

1912
01:24:20,159 --> 01:24:23,840
couple months ago okay um so that was definitely lost to the

1913
01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:25,760
department

1914
01:24:25,760 --> 01:24:27,360
and we did have an assistant planner

1915
01:24:27,360 --> 01:24:31,360
previously i believe she left the position in 2019 and we

1916
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:32,719
never filled it

1917
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:34,480
um so this would just be really helpful

1918
01:24:34,480 --> 01:24:37,920
with the things that are coming up and

1919
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,239
what we're doing go ahead please um so

1920
01:24:40,239 --> 01:24:43,760
which is a civil service position it

1921
01:24:43,760 --> 01:24:44,560
and

1922
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,400
follow up is there already someone in

1923
01:24:46,400 --> 01:24:47,920
mind or do you have

1924
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,760
will this be a position that has to be

1925
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:51,440
advertised this would be it will be

1926
01:24:51,440 --> 01:24:53,840
posted okay yeah

1927
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:56,159
thank you

1928
01:24:56,159 --> 01:24:58,480
any other questions

1929
01:24:58,480 --> 01:25:00,159
go ahead please and then you said this

1930
01:25:00,159 --> 01:25:07,189
has been vacant since 2019 yes

1931
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,639
you have questions

1932
01:25:08,639 --> 01:25:11,120
may i have a motion to move this remove

1933
01:25:11,120 --> 01:25:12,000
bit

1934
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,080
all in favor

1935
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,480
the next item is the 2022 budget and

1936
01:25:16,480 --> 01:25:21,669
position reproduction finance department

1937
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:24,000
thank you again i'm sorry for the

1938
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,400
inconvenience of speaking earlier again

1939
01:25:26,400 --> 01:25:28,719
uh as our department uh we realized that

1940
01:25:28,719 --> 01:25:30,639
what we really need for a position as an

1941
01:25:30,639 --> 01:25:32,880
accountant uh again uh the

1942
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,800
administrative assistant only lasted a

1943
01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:37,120
you know uh a few months and so there's

1944
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,840
available budget about over 42 thousand

1945
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:42,560
uh we were going to go out advertise for

1946
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:44,239
an accountant but hopefully we can get

1947
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:46,080
one uh we're thinking right at the

1948
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:48,000
school year a lot of graduates or we're

1949
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,239
hoping to grab one from the from the

1950
01:25:50,239 --> 01:25:53,120
pool of graduates uh we will be uh

1951
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:55,520
posting uh for again this will be budget

1952
01:25:55,520 --> 01:25:56,560
neutral

1953
01:25:56,560 --> 01:25:57,840
and

1954
01:25:57,840 --> 01:25:59,440
we're hoping that to get a good person

1955
01:25:59,440 --> 01:26:00,960
in that position

1956
01:26:00,960 --> 01:26:04,719
yeah and just as a reminder please when you're posting this position please

1957
01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:11,669
copy the console so yes

1958
01:26:11,679 --> 01:26:13,040
and we're going to be doing that more

1959
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:14,639
often now yeah

1960
01:26:14,639 --> 01:26:16,880
go ahead please um so the

1961
01:26:16,880 --> 01:26:19,440
salary for the accountant of

1962
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:22,880
42 578 is because we're six months in

1963
01:26:22,880 --> 01:26:25,199
yes but in a 2023 budget it would be

1964
01:26:25,199 --> 01:26:27,199
double that probably no uh we're looking

1965
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:29,840
at the probably uh between 56 and 60

1966
01:26:29,840 --> 01:26:33,280
probably in 2023 okay

1967
01:26:33,280 --> 01:26:35,440
yep

1968
01:26:35,440 --> 01:26:37,199
any other questions

1969
01:26:37,199 --> 01:26:38,639
comments

1970
01:26:38,639 --> 01:26:41,440
may have a motion on this

1971
01:26:41,440 --> 01:26:43,840
section all in favor aye thank you very

1972
01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:44,960
much

1973
01:26:44,960 --> 01:26:47,920
the next item is a 22 golf budget

1974
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:57,189
amendment and

1975
01:26:57,199 --> 01:26:58,880
so what we have is a budget amendment

1976
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,360
for the golf course uh several months

1977
01:27:01,360 --> 01:27:03,760
ago we awarded the construction of a new

1978
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:06,400
maintenance building at the golf course

1979
01:27:06,400 --> 01:27:08,080
we did a budget amendment to increase

1980
01:27:08,080 --> 01:27:09,920
the budget when we awarded that project

1981
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:12,480
this is as you can see uh we've made

1982
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:13,679
some

1983
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:15,840
uh changes some change orders here as

1984
01:27:15,840 --> 01:27:16,960
you see we

1985
01:27:16,960 --> 01:27:18,960
put in a bigger overhead door we

1986
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,040
insulated a couple of doors we decided

1987
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:22,000
to

1988
01:27:22,000 --> 01:27:24,080
line the ceilings with these ceiling

1989
01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:26,239
liner panels uh something that we didn't

1990
01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:27,520
think of as that

1991
01:27:27,520 --> 01:27:28,960
we lined the heated side but the

1992
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,960
non-heated side but at the maintenance

1993
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,440
garages we tend to leave the doors open

1994
01:27:33,440 --> 01:27:35,600
and if birds were to get into the

1995
01:27:35,600 --> 01:27:37,280
non-heated side they could get all the

1996
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,600
way into the heated side and roost in

1997
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,520
the in the rafters so we decided to

1998
01:27:43,520 --> 01:27:45,840
put panels there to prevent any roosting

1999
01:27:45,840 --> 01:27:49,679
of birds we also double the insulation

2000
01:27:49,679 --> 01:27:52,320
and and put some hardier partition walls

2001
01:27:52,320 --> 01:27:54,400
up just some plywood and things so the

2002
01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,159
total of all those change orders you see

2003
01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:58,400
is 14 000

2004
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,520
in addition you might wonder where the difference is because we're asking

2005
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:02,960
for 45

2006
01:28:02,960 --> 01:28:05,040
um we are also looking to have our

2007
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,120
electricians

2008
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:08,880
do the electrical service so what we

2009
01:28:08,880 --> 01:28:10,800
awarded was a building if you were to go

2010
01:28:10,800 --> 01:28:13,120
there the building is a shell

2011
01:28:13,120 --> 01:28:15,360
we actually have plumbing stubbed to it

2012
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,040
but it doesn't have power yet we have

2013
01:28:17,040 --> 01:28:18,639
power at the facility but just not to

2014
01:28:18,639 --> 01:28:19,600
the building

2015
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:22,000
our city electricians are

2016
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:23,440
licensed and capable of doing all this

2017
01:28:23,440 --> 01:28:25,760
work they have started some but to

2018
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,320
actually buy the panels the led lights

2019
01:28:28,320 --> 01:28:30,639
the outlet boxes and things like that

2020
01:28:30,639 --> 01:28:32,880
we need to appropriate the money over

2021
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,480
it's something we didn't anticipate we

2022
01:28:34,480 --> 01:28:36,960
have a pretty healthy reserve in our

2023
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:38,639
capital project

2024
01:28:38,639 --> 01:28:40,960
so we're saving a lot of money in labor

2025
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:42,800
so this money will be put into

2026
01:28:42,800 --> 01:28:44,880
essentially a supply line where then

2027
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,480
we'll build and they'll go to one of the

2028
01:28:46,480 --> 01:28:49,040
local stores and we'll buy the supplies

2029
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:50,480
to put into the building and something

2030
01:28:50,480 --> 01:28:52,000
that we'll do over the course of the

2031
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,709
summer

2032
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:56,800
so this is going to be done in house

2033
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:59,040
the electrical work is going to be done

2034
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:01,120
in-house uh with the exception of the

2035
01:29:01,120 --> 01:29:02,080
connection which we're going to work

2036
01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:03,920
with national grid on and then the

2037
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:05,280
change orders that is with the

2038
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,239
contractor um and and they'll be he'll

2039
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:10,000
be installing all those things actually

2040
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,840
a lot of them are ordered and ready this

2041
01:29:11,840 --> 01:29:13,760
is just and you know

2042
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:15,679
it's just difficult because we keep

2043
01:29:15,679 --> 01:29:16,880
you know you've seen our operating

2044
01:29:16,880 --> 01:29:19,440
budget we keep our operating budget um i

2045
01:29:19,440 --> 01:29:21,199
would say then you know we put in there

2046
01:29:21,199 --> 01:29:22,639
what we need we don't put in there a lot

2047
01:29:22,639 --> 01:29:24,719
of fluff we do keep money in our capital

2048
01:29:24,719 --> 01:29:27,199
reserves and in our others uh so when we

2049
01:29:27,199 --> 01:29:29,280
need access to that money

2050
01:29:29,280 --> 01:29:31,120
you see me okay

2051
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:32,880
so it's transparent i guess in a way

2052
01:29:32,880 --> 01:29:35,760
that you know we do that but

2053
01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:38,080
any other questions

2054
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:40,400
may i have a motion

2055
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,280
all in favor all right hi thank you

2056
01:29:43,280 --> 01:29:45,840
i have a motion to adjourn

2057
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:49,120
all in favor all right

2058
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:51,040
so i'd like to call to order the public

2059
01:29:51,040 --> 01:29:52,719
safety clinic we have two items on our

2060
01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:54,960
agenda for tonight the first one is a cr

2061
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,880
about gun violence awareness month

2062
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,480
that's by myself

2063
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,800
uh definitely it's a saddening time

2064
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,120
throughout the country and globally

2065
01:30:03,120 --> 01:30:05,199
where gun violence is something that's

2066
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:06,880
becoming more rampant throughout our

2067
01:30:06,880 --> 01:30:08,960
communities i think it's important for

2068
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:11,120
us to intentionally recognize

2069
01:30:11,120 --> 01:30:13,600
that this issue is going to require

2070
01:30:13,600 --> 01:30:15,679
active engagement from our communities

2071
01:30:15,679 --> 01:30:18,080
and also recognizing the steps that our

2072
01:30:18,080 --> 01:30:19,679
community individually has been making

2073
01:30:19,679 --> 01:30:21,679
to

2074
01:30:21,679 --> 01:30:23,199
actively work to make sure we're

2075
01:30:23,199 --> 01:30:24,639
protecting the safety of not only our

2076
01:30:24,639 --> 01:30:26,800
students and our high schools and

2077
01:30:26,800 --> 01:30:29,280
our other academic institutions but also

2078
01:30:29,280 --> 01:30:34,480
making sure that we're recognizing the anguish that exists outside the

2079
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:36,880
city's connectivity and also talk to uh

2080
01:30:36,880 --> 01:30:39,120
some of the power that's required

2081
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,840
um of individuals to pick up their very

2082
01:30:41,840 --> 01:30:43,199
good platforms

2083
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:46,400
and and use their voices for good so

2084
01:30:46,400 --> 01:30:48,080
i think i was getting too preachy at the

2085
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:49,440
end um

2086
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:51,679
but definitely it doesn't take someone

2087
01:30:51,679 --> 01:30:57,600
very very hard or long to recognize the attachments to why gun

2088
01:30:57,600 --> 01:31:00,400
violence needs to be addressed i know we

2089
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,280
are at the local stage and i'm not

2090
01:31:03,280 --> 01:31:06,320
proposing that i'm not promoting that we

2091
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,400
try and

2092
01:31:08,400 --> 01:31:10,159
reach out to the state legislators but i

2093
01:31:10,159 --> 01:31:11,360
think as a community we need to send a

2094
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:13,040
powerful message that this is something

2095
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,080
that is

2096
01:31:14,080 --> 01:31:15,760
not going to be tolerated in our

2097
01:31:15,760 --> 01:31:17,120
communities and that we need to be

2098
01:31:17,120 --> 01:31:19,360
together as well

2099
01:31:19,360 --> 01:31:22,400
so is there any questions

2100
01:31:22,400 --> 01:31:23,760
i'll move this

2101
01:31:23,760 --> 01:31:26,870
a second

2102
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:28,800
the second agenda item is a grant award

2103
01:31:28,800 --> 01:31:30,080
for the community trust building

2104
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,159
conversations that's going to be

2105
01:31:32,159 --> 01:31:37,350
discussed by acc

2106
01:31:37,360 --> 01:31:38,719
we're going to make a nice opportunity

2107
01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:41,360
to form with brian

2108
01:31:41,360 --> 01:31:44,719
here to ask you guys to accept a grant

2109
01:31:44,719 --> 01:31:46,639
from dcjs the amount of twenty one

2110
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:48,480
thousand five hundred dollars

2111
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:51,120
we will reach uh dc js reach out process

2112
01:31:51,120 --> 01:31:53,120
a few months ago and asked us that we'd

2113
01:31:53,120 --> 01:31:55,440
be part of a pilot program

2114
01:31:55,440 --> 01:31:57,360
for community trust building

2115
01:31:57,360 --> 01:31:59,760
right now we have two procedural justice

2116
01:31:59,760 --> 01:32:01,840
master instructors in our department

2117
01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:04,400
they took place

2118
01:32:04,400 --> 01:32:06,400
through some virtual trust building

2119
01:32:06,400 --> 01:32:07,760
throughout different communities

2120
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,920
throughout the state and now they want

2121
01:32:09,920 --> 01:32:11,600
to bring it to communities so we were

2122
01:32:11,600 --> 01:32:14,000
chosen as well as utica

2123
01:32:14,000 --> 01:32:16,400
so they are paying

2124
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,320
for members of the community as well as

2125
01:32:18,320 --> 01:32:21,040
for the backfilling for officers and

2126
01:32:21,040 --> 01:32:23,280
for a location to host the events that

2127
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:25,520
be closed off to the public

2128
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:28,960
the finn institute will be there to

2129
01:32:28,960 --> 01:32:30,080
document

2130
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:32,560
the conversation that they have and to

2131
01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,960
evaluate how the conversations are going

2132
01:32:34,960 --> 01:32:36,719
and

2133
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:40,480
then report will be generated

2134
01:32:40,480 --> 01:32:43,199
thank you any questions

2135
01:32:43,199 --> 01:32:44,800
how many offices will be involved in

2136
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:47,920
this up to eight officers um

2137
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,679
i believe they are

2138
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:51,840
i know that we have the kind of master's

2139
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:52,960
overseeing

2140
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:54,880
from the police side

2141
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:56,960
and as well as attending antinovic

2142
01:32:56,960 --> 01:32:58,800
and then i believe there's six

2143
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:00,400
actual officers taking part in the

2144
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,679
conversations

2145
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:03,679
so that's who the eight attendees are

2146
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:05,040
yes

2147
01:33:05,040 --> 01:33:06,800
so the public

2148
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:09,280
is this to create uh trust with the

2149
01:33:09,280 --> 01:33:10,719
public so there's public attendees as

2150
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:12,239
well yes there's there's gonna be eight

2151
01:33:12,239 --> 01:33:13,600
from there there's something what we're

2152
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,840
seeing from the public side and then um

2153
01:33:15,840 --> 01:33:18,480
there's community members that uh we

2154
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:20,480
were selected already um that would be

2155
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:22,159
taking part in that well then that's

2156
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:23,920
kind of my question so how were because

2157
01:33:23,920 --> 01:33:25,199
this is the first i've heard of it so

2158
01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:27,600
how were um community members chosen to

2159
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:30,000
be a part of this so julia holcomb is

2160
01:33:30,000 --> 01:33:33,120
the person that was chosen from the

2161
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:34,159
community

2162
01:33:34,159 --> 01:33:36,239
um i don't know how she was selected um

2163
01:33:36,239 --> 01:33:38,239
and then she was reaching out to members

2164
01:33:38,239 --> 01:33:39,520
of the community

2165
01:33:39,520 --> 01:33:41,040
so i

2166
01:33:41,040 --> 01:33:43,520
was not part of that okay

2167
01:33:43,520 --> 01:33:45,760
and how many members from the community

2168
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:51,110
as well

2169
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,040
i i guess maybe this answers my question

2170
01:33:53,040 --> 01:33:55,199
i'm not sure so i see so there's eight

2171
01:33:55,199 --> 01:33:58,560
officers eight community members

2172
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:00,000
which i think is kind of a low amount

2173
01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,920
really but um for a time of community

2174
01:34:01,920 --> 01:34:04,480
conversation that you want to achieve

2175
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:05,920
i thought that was a low amount for

2176
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:07,600
trying to achieve a community community

2177
01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,360
conversation however um that's the

2178
01:34:09,360 --> 01:34:15,350
number that you know that you've chosen

2179
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:25,990
how many people have yeah

2180
01:34:26,000 --> 01:34:27,760
20 attendees how do you account for the

2181
01:34:27,760 --> 01:34:29,040
food

2182
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:44,310
how do we count for them

2183
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,719
i understand that it says eight maybe 16

2184
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:49,119
eight officers eight people 20 attendees

2185
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:50,639
for the food oh sorry we're just trying

2186
01:34:50,639 --> 01:34:52,800
to figure that out be personal so okay

2187
01:34:52,800 --> 01:34:54,239
so so there's two other people from the

2188
01:34:54,239 --> 01:34:56,239
financial sixties okay i'm sorry that's

2189
01:34:56,239 --> 01:34:58,480
all yeah that's why i wanted that

2190
01:34:58,480 --> 01:35:00,000
if the council president wanted to

2191
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:01,440
attend

2192
01:35:01,440 --> 01:35:03,280
i wasn't invited clearly they knew who

2193
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,920
they wanted in the room

2194
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:07,760
i'll make a call for you

2195
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:09,760
are there any questions

2196
01:35:09,760 --> 01:35:11,520
well i think it's i think it's fantastic

2197
01:35:11,520 --> 01:35:14,080
that we were selected by uh by the

2198
01:35:14,080 --> 01:35:15,600
organization and that we're getting the

2199
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:17,440
grant um it certainly was part of our

2200
01:35:17,440 --> 01:35:20,239
reform and reinvention process to

2201
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:21,760
be doing what we could

2202
01:35:21,760 --> 01:35:23,119
to

2203
01:35:23,119 --> 01:35:24,639
look at how we can

2204
01:35:24,639 --> 01:35:26,159
develop trust so the fact that this is

2205
01:35:26,159 --> 01:35:27,520
going to be a little bit of a pilot

2206
01:35:27,520 --> 01:35:30,320
research study will help pave the way

2207
01:35:30,320 --> 01:35:32,800
for those later conversations

2208
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:34,639
um that we also have included in the

2209
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:37,119
reform so i congratulate the department

2210
01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:38,560
on another

2211
01:35:38,560 --> 01:35:40,080
grant

2212
01:35:40,080 --> 01:35:42,159
as well as being selected so we're

2213
01:35:42,159 --> 01:35:45,119
excited to get started with it okay good

2214
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:46,639
job all right just wanna start any

2215
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:49,600
questions and have a motion solo second

2216
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,800
favorite

2217
01:35:50,800 --> 01:35:52,159
unless there are any other items that

2218
01:35:52,159 --> 01:36:04,560
fall before public safety and utilities committee service

2219
01:36:04,560 --> 01:36:05,600
services

2220
01:36:05,600 --> 01:36:06,400
first

2221
01:36:06,400 --> 01:36:08,320
agenda is

2222
01:36:08,320 --> 01:36:10,480
the award of municipal water

2223
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:12,719
supply well project

2224
01:36:12,719 --> 01:36:15,040
i don't see mr lafon he uh unfortunately

2225
01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:18,560
has a tested positive for coleman

2226
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,360
this

2227
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:21,600
is an upgrade of our wells or some of

2228
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,360
them are at the

2229
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:25,440
end of their useful life

2230
01:36:25,440 --> 01:36:28,239
went out for bids for

2231
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:29,760
three new wells

2232
01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,119
which is the

2233
01:36:31,119 --> 01:36:32,960
million three

2234
01:36:32,960 --> 01:36:34,560
that's before you

2235
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:35,840
and

2236
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:39,679
it's also an error in the second sheet

2237
01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:42,800
for the alternative one which is listed

2238
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:44,480
it's actually twenty one thousand

2239
01:36:44,480 --> 01:36:46,080
dollars on the one side that says it's

2240
01:36:46,080 --> 01:36:49,830
21 million dollars

2241
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:50,840
that

2242
01:36:50,840 --> 01:36:54,639
is decommission the old wells when we

2243
01:36:54,639 --> 01:36:56,880
take those out of service

2244
01:36:56,880 --> 01:37:00,239
we've worked with this company before

2245
01:37:00,239 --> 01:37:02,880
it's a highly specialized area

2246
01:37:02,880 --> 01:37:04,080
and

2247
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:06,400
recommending the council that uh improve

2248
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:09,040
it and move ahead with this project

2249
01:37:09,040 --> 01:37:11,119
any questions or comments

2250
01:37:11,119 --> 01:37:13,040
this policy so i understand that we just

2251
01:37:13,040 --> 01:37:14,800
had this one company bid on this

2252
01:37:14,800 --> 01:37:16,880
particular although other companies did

2253
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,960
download the um

2254
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:20,320
looked at it again it's highly

2255
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,000
specialized work they've

2256
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,400
done work here before so

2257
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:25,520
uh

2258
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:28,159
they don't say it too loud but they came

2259
01:37:28,159 --> 01:37:30,239
in under what our in-house

2260
01:37:30,239 --> 01:37:39,350
estimates were for costs so uh

2261
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,679
any other questions comments

2262
01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:43,840
i have a motion i'll move it

2263
01:37:43,840 --> 01:37:46,080
second

2264
01:37:46,080 --> 01:37:50,000
motion to adjourn all in favor aye aye

2265
01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,159
now i'd like a motion to address that

2266
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:54,629
second

2267
01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:58,149
almost favor

2268
01:37:58,159 --> 01:37:59,440
i'd like to call the order of city

2269
01:37:59,440 --> 01:38:01,199
development and planning we have 12

2270
01:38:01,199 --> 01:38:03,040
items on the agenda

2271
01:38:03,040 --> 01:38:05,600
the first item award bid and contract

2272
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:07,840
for the 2022 schenectady tips paving

2273
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:08,960
program

2274
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:18,310
mr wall

2275
01:38:18,320 --> 01:38:20,800
so the first one is like we said warping

2276
01:38:20,800 --> 01:38:24,239
contract 2022 paving uh my apologies for

2277
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:26,159
getting it to be filled now but i wanted

2278
01:38:26,159 --> 01:38:28,719
to get something together that's also uh

2279
01:38:28,719 --> 01:38:30,400
to give a summary of what we've been

2280
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,880
doing because to someone in schenectady

2281
01:38:32,880 --> 01:38:34,320
they may wonder how we're awarding the

2282
01:38:34,320 --> 01:38:35,679
paving program we've been paying them

2283
01:38:35,679 --> 01:38:36,960
all year

2284
01:38:36,960 --> 01:38:38,480
so what we've been doing is this is a

2285
01:38:38,480 --> 01:38:40,400
list of all the paving that we were

2286
01:38:40,400 --> 01:38:42,480
wrapping up this year because our paving

2287
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:45,119
program went out late last year so as

2288
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,760
you see uh we've already done almost

2289
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:50,320
seven and a half miles of road this year

2290
01:38:50,320 --> 01:38:52,800
we have also started

2291
01:38:52,800 --> 01:38:54,480
actually we're starting next week what

2292
01:38:54,480 --> 01:38:56,320
we're calling the cdbg paving program

2293
01:38:56,320 --> 01:38:58,400
which is the list here

2294
01:38:58,400 --> 01:39:01,520
these are cgpg fun page roads

2295
01:39:01,520 --> 01:39:04,320
which is a mile these are specific to

2296
01:39:04,320 --> 01:39:06,400
our focused neighborhoods primarily

2297
01:39:06,400 --> 01:39:08,239
around hamilton hill

2298
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:10,400
so this project will be getting started

2299
01:39:10,400 --> 01:39:12,639
in june and then the project which we

2300
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:15,040
are actually looking to award today is

2301
01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,800
actually the third sheet which says 2022

2302
01:39:18,800 --> 01:39:20,080
chips program

2303
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:23,679
which is five miles um five miles for

2304
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:25,600
similar amount of money

2305
01:39:25,600 --> 01:39:28,400
prices have gone up for asphalt also a

2306
01:39:28,400 --> 01:39:30,880
big chunk of this one is eastern

2307
01:39:30,880 --> 01:39:33,440
which is a long road um we estimates did

2308
01:39:33,440 --> 01:39:35,440
come in where we thought they would

2309
01:39:35,440 --> 01:39:37,679
and we are comfortable with the number

2310
01:39:37,679 --> 01:39:39,840
that we got the contractor is the same

2311
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:42,560
contractor that was working

2312
01:39:42,560 --> 01:39:44,719
on our 2021 project in the city of

2313
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:48,000
schenectady um we also had a second bid

2314
01:39:48,000 --> 01:39:50,000
from callan and kalanine is doing a lot

2315
01:39:50,000 --> 01:39:52,000
of our federal work right now so you

2316
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,040
will see

2317
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:53,520
at kalani

2318
01:39:53,520 --> 01:39:55,119
not wendell you'll see counting in

2319
01:39:55,119 --> 01:39:57,440
around city hall callanan was on

2320
01:39:57,440 --> 01:40:01,119
broadway and broadway roosevelt and city

2321
01:40:01,119 --> 01:40:02,800
hall they are not included in these

2322
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:04,320
lists because

2323
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:05,840
it's just another project and it's

2324
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,159
another list so we have a lot going on

2325
01:40:08,159 --> 01:40:10,080
in the city right now

2326
01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:11,760
um the big project i know we've been

2327
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,760
getting a lot of complaints on it was a

2328
01:40:13,760 --> 01:40:16,320
ten night for 2022 and we are

2329
01:40:16,320 --> 01:40:18,080
looking to do uh

2330
01:40:18,080 --> 01:40:19,040
tennis

2331
01:40:19,040 --> 01:40:22,960
in mount pleasant that is a main side

2332
01:40:22,960 --> 01:40:24,880
street i would call it the problem with

2333
01:40:24,880 --> 01:40:26,159
tennie is it's one of those streets

2334
01:40:26,159 --> 01:40:30,239
where not many people live on it goes through and everybody lives on

2335
01:40:30,239 --> 01:40:32,080
the cross streets so it's always kind of

2336
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:33,360
been neglected

2337
01:40:33,360 --> 01:40:35,199
but national grid has been in there we

2338
01:40:35,199 --> 01:40:36,639
have had a lot of complaints about the

2339
01:40:36,639 --> 01:40:39,040
condition of tenik so that is on there i

2340
01:40:39,040 --> 01:40:40,320
know that some people will be happy

2341
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:41,920
about that

2342
01:40:41,920 --> 01:40:43,760
and in addition we have other streets

2343
01:40:43,760 --> 01:40:45,679
that we are working on we're doing them

2344
01:40:45,679 --> 01:40:47,199
separately again

2345
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:49,040
so i'll just give you a heads up we are

2346
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:52,000
looking to put a contract out in the

2347
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:53,119
next month

2348
01:40:53,119 --> 01:40:55,040
to rip up and replace all of the

2349
01:40:55,040 --> 01:40:57,520
concrete near the michigan avenue

2350
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:58,400
baseball field

2351
01:40:58,400 --> 01:40:59,840
[Music]

2352
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:02,639
that interchange is falling apart we are

2353
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:04,560
contemplating with the cost of asphalt

2354
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:06,639
if we put concrete back or not so we're

2355
01:41:06,639 --> 01:41:09,040
doing a little cost benefit similarly

2356
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:11,360
over by grandview concrete

2357
01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:13,280
on altima

2358
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:15,280
we have a section there that is in bad

2359
01:41:15,280 --> 01:41:16,400
chase

2360
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:17,440
we're

2361
01:41:17,440 --> 01:41:19,679
looking at that section and then we are

2362
01:41:19,679 --> 01:41:22,719
looking at doing a slight road widening

2363
01:41:22,719 --> 01:41:25,119
at gulf road and route seven

2364
01:41:25,119 --> 01:41:26,719
um because if you're familiar with gulf

2365
01:41:26,719 --> 01:41:28,239
road route 7 right by the babe ruth

2366
01:41:28,239 --> 01:41:31,679
field it is essentially one and a half

2367
01:41:31,679 --> 01:41:34,080
lanes wide depending on where a car goes

2368
01:41:34,080 --> 01:41:35,760
so we're working with the dlt and making

2369
01:41:35,760 --> 01:41:38,159
it officially two lanes a straight left

2370
01:41:38,159 --> 01:41:39,600
and a right we really think that's going

2371
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:41,600
to improve traffic flow

2372
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:43,440
to have that there so that's going to be

2373
01:41:43,440 --> 01:41:45,840
another contract that's coming

2374
01:41:45,840 --> 01:41:48,000
this is a little bit more vanilla we did

2375
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:49,520
not want to

2376
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:53,119
kind of mix up a large project with a

2377
01:41:53,119 --> 01:41:55,199
mill and fill project but i just wanted

2378
01:41:55,199 --> 01:41:56,800
to give you a heads up that that is

2379
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:58,560
coming as well

2380
01:41:58,560 --> 01:41:59,280
so

2381
01:41:59,280 --> 01:42:01,040
is there any questions i

2382
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:02,960
you know feel free to ask um this

2383
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:06,880
project is all chips money chips is our

2384
01:42:06,880 --> 01:42:08,480
state assisted money you'll be hearing

2385
01:42:08,480 --> 01:42:10,159
about it a little bit because we got a

2386
01:42:10,159 --> 01:42:12,480
little bit more chips money so we really

2387
01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:14,080
need to start drawing down on that

2388
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:15,920
because we are

2389
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,760
we have quite a bit of it so we do have

2390
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:19,119
the funding to pay for this and the

2391
01:42:19,119 --> 01:42:21,760
other projects and

2392
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,080
we did we're in a good spot i think mr

2393
01:42:24,080 --> 01:42:27,040
baldwin uh chris this is related to

2394
01:42:27,040 --> 01:42:29,280
something you said not necessarily this

2395
01:42:29,280 --> 01:42:32,320
project with the cement projects

2396
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,119
um if you remember when they did part of

2397
01:42:35,119 --> 01:42:36,880
the crosstown group seven they had

2398
01:42:36,880 --> 01:42:39,199
pre-poured

2399
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:41,199
this last slab

2400
01:42:41,199 --> 01:42:43,199
is that something that we could do and

2401
01:42:43,199 --> 01:42:45,360
maybe it'd be a little bit more cost

2402
01:42:45,360 --> 01:42:47,600
effective

2403
01:42:47,600 --> 01:42:49,440
i haven't seen it done much with the

2404
01:42:49,440 --> 01:42:51,760
prequel i mean whenever we're doing it

2405
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:53,440
i have seen it done we were looking at a

2406
01:42:53,440 --> 01:42:55,520
raised intersection in a couple areas

2407
01:42:55,520 --> 01:42:57,520
where they do put panels in to save time

2408
01:42:57,520 --> 01:42:58,719
with that but i haven't seen it done

2409
01:42:58,719 --> 01:43:01,679
with roads because they now make very

2410
01:43:01,679 --> 01:43:04,080
efficient actual concrete machines to

2411
01:43:04,080 --> 01:43:06,400
pour roads where the trucks come and do

2412
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,719
it i'm not saying it can't be done

2413
01:43:08,719 --> 01:43:11,520
but uh usually you're they're poured in

2414
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:16,080
place or they're whether that but for sections yes i have seen panels and

2415
01:43:16,080 --> 01:43:18,480
we were looking at doing that that's why

2416
01:43:18,480 --> 01:43:20,880
just like brandywine avenue um we put

2417
01:43:20,880 --> 01:43:22,320
that out to bid if anybody was wondering

2418
01:43:22,320 --> 01:43:23,679
whatever happened to brandywine avenue

2419
01:43:23,679 --> 01:43:24,880
that's been you know kind of out there

2420
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,639
for a while we put it out to bid and it

2421
01:43:26,639 --> 01:43:29,360
came in over almost 100 of the budget

2422
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:31,840
and a lot of that was the precast panels

2423
01:43:31,840 --> 01:43:34,080
and everything associated with a raised

2424
01:43:34,080 --> 01:43:35,119
intersection so we're going to try

2425
01:43:35,119 --> 01:43:37,199
moving forward with that as an alternate

2426
01:43:37,199 --> 01:43:38,719
because

2427
01:43:38,719 --> 01:43:41,040
at the time race intersections were kind

2428
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:42,639
of something that everybody was like you

2429
01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:44,159
know how does this work and they're

2430
01:43:44,159 --> 01:43:46,719
found to be effective but not half a

2431
01:43:46,719 --> 01:43:48,159
million dollars effective there's other

2432
01:43:48,159 --> 01:43:50,159
things that we can do that are better

2433
01:43:50,159 --> 01:43:52,480
for taxpayer dollars so we'll be doing

2434
01:43:52,480 --> 01:43:53,920
that but i'll look into it but we're

2435
01:43:53,920 --> 01:43:55,199
really trying you know the mayor and i

2436
01:43:55,199 --> 01:43:57,040
have had a conversation about where that

2437
01:43:57,040 --> 01:43:59,600
tipping point is with asphalt and and

2438
01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:01,679
concrete roadways there's plenty of

2439
01:44:01,679 --> 01:44:03,040
studies out there

2440
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,960
yeah and the problem with the roadways

2441
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,119
that we have right now they're older and

2442
01:44:07,119 --> 01:44:09,040
they're hard to patch we just look at it

2443
01:44:09,040 --> 01:44:10,080
each

2444
01:44:10,080 --> 01:44:11,679
hole that you see would need to be saw

2445
01:44:11,679 --> 01:44:13,600
cut into a square

2446
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:15,280
and then repaired and then there's

2447
01:44:15,280 --> 01:44:17,280
cracks and so we went started we just

2448
01:44:17,280 --> 01:44:18,639
said you know what we've gotten our

2449
01:44:18,639 --> 01:44:20,639
money out of this road but especially

2450
01:44:20,639 --> 01:44:22,320
the michigan ave intersection i mean we

2451
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,400
get a lot of cars that come through

2452
01:44:24,400 --> 01:44:26,400
there every day and we really need to

2453
01:44:26,400 --> 01:44:27,920
you know put our best foot forward on

2454
01:44:27,920 --> 01:44:30,880
that one but that's not this this is big

2455
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:32,159
with the road

2456
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:34,800
unless i get my project screwed up here

2457
01:44:34,800 --> 01:44:36,400
uh with the road that you said you were

2458
01:44:36,400 --> 01:44:37,840
going to tear up

2459
01:44:37,840 --> 01:44:39,840
uh have you looked at the numbers for

2460
01:44:39,840 --> 01:44:43,280
making that cement instead of asphalt

2461
01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,280
which road the one i don't remember you

2462
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:51,910
went through so much michigan

2463
01:44:51,920 --> 01:44:54,320
because yeah those are their sections

2464
01:44:54,320 --> 01:44:56,400
they're high volume um especially

2465
01:44:56,400 --> 01:44:59,280
michigan probably not ultimate when we

2466
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:01,199
get to it because altamonte is just such

2467
01:45:01,199 --> 01:45:04,239
a simple straight line shot

2468
01:45:04,239 --> 01:45:06,320
um but with the michigan one definitely

2469
01:45:06,320 --> 01:45:08,159
a lot of turning movements a lot of

2470
01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:10,239
trucks well we're definitely gonna we'll

2471
01:45:10,239 --> 01:45:12,560
reconsider what we're doing there

2472
01:45:12,560 --> 01:45:13,920
so this is the this is the pavement

2473
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,360
program here i just wanted to give

2474
01:45:15,360 --> 01:45:17,280
everybody all the information

2475
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:24,709
any other questions

2476
01:45:24,719 --> 01:45:27,199
so i know previously uh you mentioned

2477
01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:29,600
that you're unfortunately at the expense

2478
01:45:29,600 --> 01:45:31,679
of having managers so having enough

2479
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:33,280
engineers to facilitate these projects i

2480
01:45:33,280 --> 01:45:34,560
know for me before getting on the

2481
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:36,800
council you would assume it's funding

2482
01:45:36,800 --> 01:45:38,239
but i know your office does really well

2483
01:45:38,239 --> 01:45:40,320
at acquiring grants is there ever a

2484
01:45:40,320 --> 01:45:41,920
position where you get to the end of the

2485
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:43,920
fiscal year you have to return money or

2486
01:45:43,920 --> 01:45:45,119
do you project that you'll be able to

2487
01:45:45,119 --> 01:45:47,360
spend down um the chips money that we

2488
01:45:47,360 --> 01:45:49,040
can do so the chips money rolls over

2489
01:45:49,040 --> 01:45:50,400
okay so

2490
01:45:50,400 --> 01:45:52,880
we're we're fortunate in that um but

2491
01:45:52,880 --> 01:45:54,880
what ended up happening was during covid

2492
01:45:54,880 --> 01:45:56,159
we actually got some of our money but we

2493
01:45:56,159 --> 01:45:58,080
weren't really spending it so we ended

2494
01:45:58,080 --> 01:45:59,360
up with a little bit more than we would

2495
01:45:59,360 --> 01:46:01,520
have so now we have it and also as

2496
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,280
you've awarded before we're getting this

2497
01:46:03,280 --> 01:46:05,199
touring wrap money which is the second

2498
01:46:05,199 --> 01:46:07,600
year of that so uh no i mean what i am

2499
01:46:07,600 --> 01:46:09,920
doing is you know i am using chips money

2500
01:46:09,920 --> 01:46:10,800
for

2501
01:46:10,800 --> 01:46:12,400
many more things than i've ever used it

2502
01:46:12,400 --> 01:46:14,800
before i have now

2503
01:46:14,800 --> 01:46:18,320
we're doing designs for

2504
01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:20,159
maybe almost a dozen different roadway

2505
01:46:20,159 --> 01:46:22,080
areas we're doing signal replacement

2506
01:46:22,080 --> 01:46:24,239
designs roadway designs and we're using

2507
01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:26,159
chips money to pay for all that because

2508
01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:27,360
it's eligible

2509
01:46:27,360 --> 01:46:29,679
and so um for instance this interest

2510
01:46:29,679 --> 01:46:31,199
this interjection while we were out

2511
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:34,960
there at hamburg and um altima you know

2512
01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,960
kind of by that pizza shore and the

2513
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:38,719
point of auto repair

2514
01:46:38,719 --> 01:46:40,960
the signal is terrible you know and it

2515
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:42,080
was like you know what if we're going to

2516
01:46:42,080 --> 01:46:43,840
be here so separately looking at the

2517
01:46:43,840 --> 01:46:45,520
signal which is chip's electricity you

2518
01:46:45,520 --> 01:46:47,040
know so we're going to do is it can be

2519
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,880
done separately but we're going to do

2520
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,480
the signal because if anybody's driving

2521
01:46:50,480 --> 01:46:52,880
up broadway and guilderland we did that

2522
01:46:52,880 --> 01:46:54,320
intersection over and it's been really

2523
01:46:54,320 --> 01:46:56,560
successful and that hamburg intersection

2524
01:46:56,560 --> 01:46:58,639
is very similar in geometry to that so

2525
01:46:58,639 --> 01:47:00,000
we're going to look at replacing all

2526
01:47:00,000 --> 01:47:01,520
that there's you get to the point where

2527
01:47:01,520 --> 01:47:02,960
the auto storage you'll notice that you

2528
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:04,400
actually can't cross

2529
01:47:04,400 --> 01:47:05,679
it's just there's just a point and then

2530
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:06,960
you're just supposed to cross on your

2531
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:08,400
own so we're going to make that so you

2532
01:47:08,400 --> 01:47:10,159
can actually cross flip the pet heads

2533
01:47:10,159 --> 01:47:11,600
there but that's all in design so yeah

2534
01:47:11,600 --> 01:47:12,480
we're

2535
01:47:12,480 --> 01:47:14,400
we are using the chips money as fast as

2536
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,320
the staff can and we're also paying a

2537
01:47:16,320 --> 01:47:19,040
lot of consultants and we have you know

2538
01:47:19,040 --> 01:47:21,280
we're using consultants to supervise

2539
01:47:21,280 --> 01:47:24,080
this so we have a consultant

2540
01:47:24,080 --> 01:47:25,679
all day when the consult when they're

2541
01:47:25,679 --> 01:47:27,280
out there looking at each one you know

2542
01:47:27,280 --> 01:47:28,639
they're taking slips they're making sure

2543
01:47:28,639 --> 01:47:30,800
the projects are getting built to spec

2544
01:47:30,800 --> 01:47:32,239
if there's questions they're calling and

2545
01:47:32,239 --> 01:47:33,679
then my assistant's going out to meet

2546
01:47:33,679 --> 01:47:35,840
with them or with mike cerrone or paul

2547
01:47:35,840 --> 01:47:37,360
so there is a lot of coordination going

2548
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,760
on and all that is chip's eligible

2549
01:47:39,760 --> 01:47:40,880
thank you green

2550
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:42,480
since you're talking about that also you

2551
01:47:42,480 --> 01:47:45,520
might want to mention francis and willit

2552
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:47,600
was down there

2553
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:49,040
with that intersection oh the

2554
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,639
intersection the intersection

2555
01:47:50,639 --> 01:47:52,960
yeah great project

2556
01:47:52,960 --> 01:47:55,199
okay so like we can go on about this all

2557
01:47:55,199 --> 01:47:56,800
day

2558
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,119
francis and that that intersection was

2559
01:47:59,119 --> 01:48:01,840
one of our best projects we got rid of a

2560
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,719
just completely obsolete intersection

2561
01:48:04,719 --> 01:48:06,159
that had no business being in a

2562
01:48:06,159 --> 01:48:08,239
neighborhood we removed almost 40

2563
01:48:08,239 --> 01:48:10,320
percent of asphalt we increased our

2564
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,000
grass and what we are doing is we're

2565
01:48:12,000 --> 01:48:14,159
working with another consultant on chips

2566
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:16,719
and we are as part of the craig maine

2567
01:48:16,719 --> 01:48:18,719
kind of overall plan for mount pleasant

2568
01:48:18,719 --> 01:48:21,119
we're now looking at uh forest in maine

2569
01:48:21,119 --> 01:48:23,199
and forest and holland because those are

2570
01:48:23,199 --> 01:48:26,000
similar very large odd intersections

2571
01:48:26,000 --> 01:48:28,320
near a school so we're looking to narrow

2572
01:48:28,320 --> 01:48:30,239
those up as well yeah we really think

2573
01:48:30,239 --> 01:48:35,040
that forest is yeah and what with the timing of couldn't have been better

2574
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:36,880
because i am nervous about when the

2575
01:48:36,880 --> 01:48:38,560
bridge is completed

2576
01:48:38,560 --> 01:48:40,719
um the speeds on the bridge

2577
01:48:40,719 --> 01:48:43,440
prior to it being repaired were high

2578
01:48:43,440 --> 01:48:45,280
and so we are concerned about that

2579
01:48:45,280 --> 01:48:46,639
bridge being

2580
01:48:46,639 --> 01:48:48,960
you know fast and so having that stop

2581
01:48:48,960 --> 01:48:50,639
sign there and that hopefully that helps

2582
01:48:50,639 --> 01:48:51,840
to slow but

2583
01:48:51,840 --> 01:48:53,280
that bridge is very long and very

2584
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:58,149
straight and you know people like to ride on

2585
01:48:58,159 --> 01:49:02,070
any other questions or comments

2586
01:49:02,080 --> 01:49:05,199
second all those in favor

2587
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:08,320
all right thank you uh the next uh item

2588
01:49:08,320 --> 01:49:10,480
number two transportation uh new york

2589
01:49:10,480 --> 01:49:15,830
city d.o.t to pave our potholes yay

2590
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:18,320
program funding mr wellington sure so

2591
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:21,119
this is a new program i believe booked

2592
01:49:21,119 --> 01:49:23,040
by the governor called pop favor

2593
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:26,880
potholes it is a additional allocation

2594
01:49:26,880 --> 01:49:29,119
of state money that will go into our

2595
01:49:29,119 --> 01:49:30,400
trips account

2596
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,159
so it is

2597
01:49:32,159 --> 01:49:33,599
no different than emergency winter

2598
01:49:33,599 --> 01:49:36,080
recovery paid new york or the new york

2599
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:37,840
state touring money it is just the

2600
01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:39,599
latest acronym

2601
01:49:39,599 --> 01:49:42,719
so this will go into our pot of money to

2602
01:49:42,719 --> 01:49:44,560
go for our projects

2603
01:49:44,560 --> 01:49:46,719
and um you know we welcome any new money

2604
01:49:46,719 --> 01:49:49,430
that we get

2605
01:49:49,440 --> 01:49:52,000
any questions i'll move this second all

2606
01:49:52,000 --> 01:49:54,480
those in favor

2607
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:56,560
and uh the right amount you've done a

2608
01:49:56,560 --> 01:50:03,830
discussion of north college street um

2609
01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:05,280
i hope everybody had a chance to kind of

2610
01:50:05,280 --> 01:50:06,960
look at this a little bit i would really

2611
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:08,639
like this to be a discussion so that can

2612
01:50:08,639 --> 01:50:10,480
lead to an action item

2613
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:13,040
um i've been working a lot with mr

2614
01:50:13,040 --> 01:50:15,119
palmini and the neighborhood

2615
01:50:15,119 --> 01:50:16,480
specifically diane runkle who lives on

2616
01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:18,880
the block who's organizing everything

2617
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:20,719
i did not have time to include this but

2618
01:50:20,719 --> 01:50:22,080
she did send it to me i made enough

2619
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,000
copies for everybody which is you know

2620
01:50:24,000 --> 01:50:25,599
their petition which is really the first

2621
01:50:25,599 --> 01:50:27,440
start and andrew i don't know if you had

2622
01:50:27,440 --> 01:50:28,400
time to

2623
01:50:28,400 --> 01:50:30,320
review everything but uh you know that's

2624
01:50:30,320 --> 01:50:32,320
really the first part of it is the

2625
01:50:32,320 --> 01:50:35,520
petition of the residence and she has on

2626
01:50:35,520 --> 01:50:36,560
here you know

2627
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:39,040
the percentages the church

2628
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:41,520
is the former church and the historic is

2629
01:50:41,520 --> 01:50:44,560
the historic society museum that exists

2630
01:50:44,560 --> 01:50:45,520
so

2631
01:50:45,520 --> 01:50:48,000
the issue with those two particular

2632
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,360
properties and why she has those

2633
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,280
highlighted is that

2634
01:50:51,280 --> 01:50:53,679
the church and the historic society have

2635
01:50:53,679 --> 01:50:55,840
sidewalks that are compliant

2636
01:50:55,840 --> 01:50:57,599
the church itself actually has a nice

2637
01:50:57,599 --> 01:51:00,400
curb and a sidewalk um

2638
01:51:00,400 --> 01:51:01,199
so

2639
01:51:01,199 --> 01:51:03,360
they aren't interested in paying

2640
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:05,119
to have their sidewalks replaced because

2641
01:51:05,119 --> 01:51:07,199
they have sidewalks that are in good

2642
01:51:07,199 --> 01:51:08,239
shape

2643
01:51:08,239 --> 01:51:10,480
however in order to successfully

2644
01:51:10,480 --> 01:51:12,159
complete the project to the level that i

2645
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:14,320
think everybody at this table wants to

2646
01:51:14,320 --> 01:51:15,119
see

2647
01:51:15,119 --> 01:51:16,880
i do think it's going to be necessary to

2648
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:19,360
take out at least the churches because

2649
01:51:19,360 --> 01:51:21,119
it is extremely high compared to the

2650
01:51:21,119 --> 01:51:23,199
notes of the road because they built up

2651
01:51:23,199 --> 01:51:24,320
when we're probably going to take the

2652
01:51:24,320 --> 01:51:26,480
road down

2653
01:51:26,480 --> 01:51:29,360
and so the two action items that i kind

2654
01:51:29,360 --> 01:51:31,520
of wanted to discuss with you

2655
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:33,520
is one

2656
01:51:33,520 --> 01:51:35,920
the possibility of

2657
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:38,719
setting this program up similarly we

2658
01:51:38,719 --> 01:51:40,560
have in the past which is

2659
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:42,320
at a rate

2660
01:51:42,320 --> 01:51:45,199
and not based off of market value

2661
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:47,040
and second

2662
01:51:47,040 --> 01:51:50,320
that we would be okay with in principle

2663
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:51,440
the city

2664
01:51:51,440 --> 01:51:54,159
um bearing the cost of replacement of

2665
01:51:54,159 --> 01:51:57,280
that compliant particular sidewalk

2666
01:51:57,280 --> 01:52:00,400
so that we can do the project uniformly

2667
01:52:00,400 --> 01:52:02,320
so i included in here to camp avenue

2668
01:52:02,320 --> 01:52:04,639
it's the last page to camp in hartsley

2669
01:52:04,639 --> 01:52:06,880
we did them similarly but the camp is

2670
01:52:06,880 --> 01:52:09,040
more closer in a project

2671
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:10,719
to north college because it was with

2672
01:52:10,719 --> 01:52:11,679
curb

2673
01:52:11,679 --> 01:52:13,440
um and what you'll see is you know we

2674
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:16,960
set a price we said it was 55 44

2675
01:52:16,960 --> 01:52:19,040
uniformly applied it now i'm not saying

2676
01:52:19,040 --> 01:52:21,360
we set the price at 55.44 this was a

2677
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:23,119
couple years ago and i know everyone's

2678
01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:25,440
aware there's inflation and costs but i

2679
01:52:25,440 --> 01:52:28,080
think it would be better for

2680
01:52:28,080 --> 01:52:29,440
the residents

2681
01:52:29,440 --> 01:52:32,719
and for us pushing it if we were to

2682
01:52:32,719 --> 01:52:34,080
set a number

2683
01:52:34,080 --> 01:52:36,239
and this i hate to use the subsidy

2684
01:52:36,239 --> 01:52:38,159
program but essentially be is these

2685
01:52:38,159 --> 01:52:39,679
neighbors and these residents of the

2686
01:52:39,679 --> 01:52:42,000
street are willing to put forward this

2687
01:52:42,000 --> 01:52:43,920
amount of money as degree and then the

2688
01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,000
city will you know i've already you know

2689
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:47,679
we pay for the curb already we pay for

2690
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:50,239
the pavement already um the only part

2691
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:52,000
that i included that gets a little

2692
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,159
complicated is as you see in some of

2693
01:52:54,159 --> 01:52:56,639
yours the you know behind the curving

2694
01:52:56,639 --> 01:52:58,480
behind the sidewalk i'm sorry and some

2695
01:52:58,480 --> 01:53:00,159
of the other areas

2696
01:53:00,159 --> 01:53:02,480
this is a very complex project but i

2697
01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:05,679
know that not only the residents but the

2698
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:08,080
members of the stockade association are

2699
01:53:08,080 --> 01:53:10,080
very interested in seeing you know this

2700
01:53:10,080 --> 01:53:12,239
is their stockade streetscape plan

2701
01:53:12,239 --> 01:53:13,679
really interested in seeing this being

2702
01:53:13,679 --> 01:53:15,040
their first

2703
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:16,800
uh step at it

2704
01:53:16,800 --> 01:53:19,030
so

2705
01:53:19,040 --> 01:53:21,520
questions comments how we can how we can

2706
01:53:21,520 --> 01:53:23,679
sexually do this

2707
01:53:23,679 --> 01:53:24,800
um

2708
01:53:24,800 --> 01:53:27,920
so um miss brunkel has been working on

2709
01:53:27,920 --> 01:53:28,800
this

2710
01:53:28,800 --> 01:53:32,960
very diligently for quite a long time

2711
01:53:32,960 --> 01:53:35,360
because of the complexity of the project

2712
01:53:35,360 --> 01:53:38,960
as mr wallins spoken about it has taken

2713
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:42,950
a long time um

2714
01:53:42,960 --> 01:53:45,360
i would the stockade association is very

2715
01:53:45,360 --> 01:53:47,360
much in favor of this i'm sure they'll

2716
01:53:47,360 --> 01:53:48,400
be out

2717
01:53:48,400 --> 01:53:51,040
at a meeting to speak in favor

2718
01:53:51,040 --> 01:53:51,840
um

2719
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,480
but i would encourage us to try to move

2720
01:53:54,480 --> 01:53:55,840
forward with this

2721
01:53:55,840 --> 01:53:57,760
we have set aside

2722
01:53:57,760 --> 01:53:59,760
a chunk of money i believe there's

2723
01:53:59,760 --> 01:54:02,960
several hundred thousand dollars 550 000

2724
01:54:02,960 --> 01:54:06,560
left in the program left in that program

2725
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:09,520
it would enable us to do this

2726
01:54:09,520 --> 01:54:12,000
and to mr long's point i think it would

2727
01:54:12,000 --> 01:54:12,960
be

2728
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:15,760
beneficial to set a

2729
01:54:15,760 --> 01:54:16,960
price and

2730
01:54:16,960 --> 01:54:19,679
perhaps a proportion of what the prices

2731
01:54:19,679 --> 01:54:20,480
were

2732
01:54:20,480 --> 01:54:23,360
when we did parsley and those

2733
01:54:23,360 --> 01:54:25,199
and we can get that percentage and do

2734
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:27,280
similar for

2735
01:54:27,280 --> 01:54:29,280
these individuals because the road was

2736
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:31,920
just paved it looks beautiful it gets a

2737
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,560
lot of pedestrian it was not we did not

2738
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:36,480
pave this particular block yet oh all

2739
01:54:36,480 --> 01:54:38,719
right we actually stopped okay because

2740
01:54:38,719 --> 01:54:40,000
we didn't want to pave it and then rip

2741
01:54:40,000 --> 01:54:42,400
it off right it does get a lot of it

2742
01:54:42,400 --> 01:54:44,400
does get a lot of pedestrian

2743
01:54:44,400 --> 01:54:47,679
usage um and it is a

2744
01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:50,239
actually a very key component of the

2745
01:54:50,239 --> 01:54:54,880
walkability of the stockade association

2746
01:54:54,880 --> 01:54:56,560
believes this is one of their most

2747
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:58,960
traversed by pedestrian corridors

2748
01:54:58,960 --> 01:55:01,679
because it is the gateway from union and

2749
01:55:01,679 --> 01:55:04,000
then people trying to get to the parks

2750
01:55:04,000 --> 01:55:06,080
and so this is the route you would take

2751
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:07,599
i don't know the situation that led to

2752
01:55:07,599 --> 01:55:11,040
it but the second block has been done uh

2753
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:12,639
it is in much different condition than

2754
01:55:12,639 --> 01:55:16,000
the first block but the first block is

2755
01:55:16,000 --> 01:55:17,199
i guess the word would be like a

2756
01:55:17,199 --> 01:55:20,000
potpourri of different things it is you

2757
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:23,599
know era of houses setbacks uh curb

2758
01:55:23,599 --> 01:55:27,520
reveals and it is not the camp it is not parsley it

2759
01:55:27,520 --> 01:55:30,080
is a unique beast unto itself which is

2760
01:55:30,080 --> 01:55:31,840
why you know i think you know if we

2761
01:55:31,840 --> 01:55:33,840
could set that value and then understand

2762
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:35,920
that it's going to that target's going

2763
01:55:35,920 --> 01:55:37,920
to move a little bit as we go to try to

2764
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:40,000
get the the product to look like what we

2765
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:41,440
want it to look like i don't think this

2766
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:43,440
is something where we want it to look

2767
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:46,080
like quilt work necessarily

2768
01:55:46,080 --> 01:55:47,280
leaving things

2769
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,360
because it is such a gateway

2770
01:55:49,360 --> 01:55:50,560
and i would have to work with the

2771
01:55:50,560 --> 01:55:52,239
stockade association

2772
01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:55,040
and the residents about

2773
01:55:55,040 --> 01:55:57,760
just how the street is going to be put

2774
01:55:57,760 --> 01:55:59,360
together when we do it there's some

2775
01:55:59,360 --> 01:56:01,840
options that we have which would be you

2776
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,440
know do we try to

2777
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,599
limit the green space and increase the

2778
01:56:05,599 --> 01:56:07,760
width do we want to

2779
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:11,119
keep the width and hold the green space

2780
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:12,320
and there's some of the pictures i have

2781
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,239
here you know there's trash cans there's

2782
01:56:14,239 --> 01:56:15,199
a lot of

2783
01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:17,280
it's an urban stockade it's a little bit

2784
01:56:17,280 --> 01:56:19,520
different it's very much different than

2785
01:56:19,520 --> 01:56:20,719
the other projects that we've done in

2786
01:56:20,719 --> 01:56:22,560
the past

2787
01:56:22,560 --> 01:56:24,400
um would this require taking any trees

2788
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:25,199
down

2789
01:56:25,199 --> 01:56:27,840
yes there would be what the trees that

2790
01:56:27,840 --> 01:56:29,280
are coming those trees that you see in

2791
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,440
this picture obviously

2792
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,360
so these trees right now as it's

2793
01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,360
currently constituted will not have to

2794
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:36,639
come down

2795
01:56:36,639 --> 01:56:38,719
this tree most likely and then all of

2796
01:56:38,719 --> 01:56:40,560
the trees on the other side we would

2797
01:56:40,560 --> 01:56:42,639
take down but those property owners are

2798
01:56:42,639 --> 01:56:44,239
asking us to take them all down because

2799
01:56:44,239 --> 01:56:46,159
all the sidewalks are i'm not

2800
01:56:46,159 --> 01:56:48,719
recommending you put any trees

2801
01:56:48,719 --> 01:56:49,679
on

2802
01:56:49,679 --> 01:56:52,719
the odd side of the street the side

2803
01:56:52,719 --> 01:56:54,400
opposite uh

2804
01:56:54,400 --> 01:56:55,599
i don't want to say it i think it was

2805
01:56:55,599 --> 01:56:57,199
the south side just because there's

2806
01:56:57,199 --> 01:56:59,040
utility lines that run right above it

2807
01:56:59,040 --> 01:57:00,480
the trees are growing right into it and

2808
01:57:00,480 --> 01:57:03,040
the sidewalks are all pitched so if we

2809
01:57:03,040 --> 01:57:04,639
were to do it i would

2810
01:57:04,639 --> 01:57:05,920
the reason i can't push the road that

2811
01:57:05,920 --> 01:57:07,840
way though is where the utility lines

2812
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:09,119
are so

2813
01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:10,639
i'm not really looking out on anything

2814
01:57:10,639 --> 01:57:13,040
when we when we build it but if trees

2815
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:14,480
are desired we're going to try to leave

2816
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:15,840
those trees those aren't affecting

2817
01:57:15,840 --> 01:57:17,280
anything but there are some trees that

2818
01:57:17,280 --> 01:57:19,280
are very much affecting what's going on

2819
01:57:19,280 --> 01:57:21,119
down there all right is this the type of

2820
01:57:21,119 --> 01:57:22,560
place

2821
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:25,280
no that one i'm going to try to work

2822
01:57:25,280 --> 01:57:26,239
with

2823
01:57:26,239 --> 01:57:29,119
um because in this one they left

2824
01:57:29,119 --> 01:57:30,800
no this one this one's very new when

2825
01:57:30,800 --> 01:57:32,159
they did it but this one they left this

2826
01:57:32,159 --> 01:57:34,159
buffer so i would be hoping that i could

2827
01:57:34,159 --> 01:57:37,280
make upgrade in this buffer the church

2828
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:39,199
one which i don't know it's a very nice

2829
01:57:39,199 --> 01:57:41,119
looking brand new sidewalk

2830
01:57:41,119 --> 01:57:44,800
they ramped up

2831
01:57:44,800 --> 01:57:48,080
and i understand what they were doing

2832
01:57:48,080 --> 01:57:49,920
but yeah this is it right here you can

2833
01:57:49,920 --> 01:57:52,480
see so what happens is they actually

2834
01:57:52,480 --> 01:57:55,679
ramp up oh i see that and by ramping

2835
01:57:55,679 --> 01:57:56,800
up

2836
01:57:56,800 --> 01:57:58,639
they have six inches reveal over how the

2837
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:01,360
road is if i were to keep this reveal

2838
01:58:01,360 --> 01:58:03,599
all the way around the road on the south

2839
01:58:03,599 --> 01:58:05,040
side of the street the odd side of the

2840
01:58:05,040 --> 01:58:07,280
street the curve would be higher than

2841
01:58:07,280 --> 01:58:08,800
the first step

2842
01:58:08,800 --> 01:58:10,800
and i would pitch water back to the

2843
01:58:10,800 --> 01:58:11,840
homeless

2844
01:58:11,840 --> 01:58:14,560
so what i need to do is take the road

2845
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:15,360
down

2846
01:58:15,360 --> 01:58:17,360
so that i can have a minimum curb reveal

2847
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,119
and if i do that the chance is i'm gonna

2848
01:58:19,119 --> 01:58:21,840
have a 10 inch reveal here and we don't

2849
01:58:21,840 --> 01:58:24,320
want that whereas out here see i don't

2850
01:58:24,320 --> 01:58:26,880
have any reveal i could make that work i

2851
01:58:26,880 --> 01:58:28,000
believe

2852
01:58:28,000 --> 01:58:29,920
but i'm probably this road has already

2853
01:58:29,920 --> 01:58:32,159
been scanned as part of the gis program

2854
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:33,679
that i did so we're probably going to

2855
01:58:33,679 --> 01:58:35,040
have to work with that it's like a 3d

2856
01:58:35,040 --> 01:58:36,080
survey

2857
01:58:36,080 --> 01:58:37,520
because

2858
01:58:37,520 --> 01:58:39,440
it's kind of a nightmare you know like

2859
01:58:39,440 --> 01:58:42,159
we have steps and we have drives

2860
01:58:42,159 --> 01:58:43,520
you know landings that we have hit we

2861
01:58:43,520 --> 01:58:45,360
have to hit all these things but i guess

2862
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,520
i will deal with the nightmare

2863
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,599
if we can come to some agreement of you

2864
01:58:49,599 --> 01:58:50,960
know how we're actually going to go

2865
01:58:50,960 --> 01:58:52,880
forward you know i've kind of worked

2866
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:54,719
with john and diane and we've gotten to

2867
01:58:54,719 --> 01:58:57,679
a point where now we need your support

2868
01:58:57,679 --> 01:58:59,760
of not only the project but of you know

2869
01:58:59,760 --> 01:59:02,639
the percentages that we have and uh you

2870
01:59:02,639 --> 01:59:04,159
know i can work on this and we can even

2871
01:59:04,159 --> 01:59:05,840
do the public hearing and get people's

2872
01:59:05,840 --> 01:59:06,880
input

2873
01:59:06,880 --> 01:59:08,800
but i don't want to go any farther

2874
01:59:08,800 --> 01:59:11,840
without the support of the council

2875
01:59:11,840 --> 01:59:13,760
are there any questions

2876
01:59:13,760 --> 01:59:16,560
so just some clarity so we said uh the

2877
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:18,719
four highlighted in yellow are we saying

2878
01:59:18,719 --> 01:59:21,040
that the church and the other buildings

2879
01:59:21,040 --> 01:59:23,440
and one of the city of property

2880
01:59:23,440 --> 01:59:25,199
are you going to redo all four of these

2881
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:26,480
or it's just that you're going to do a

2882
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:27,280
man

2883
01:59:27,280 --> 01:59:29,040
so

2884
01:59:29,040 --> 01:59:31,280
down here the vacant lot of the holes is

2885
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,520
it the old charge

2886
01:59:33,520 --> 01:59:36,239
the cottage rose what's that

2887
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:37,679
oh

2888
01:59:37,679 --> 01:59:40,320
i'm not 18 and 16. so the old church in

2889
01:59:40,320 --> 01:59:42,320
the vacant church lot those are those

2890
01:59:42,320 --> 01:59:43,520
are the ones that we would have to take

2891
01:59:43,520 --> 01:59:45,119
out those are the high ones and they're

2892
01:59:45,119 --> 01:59:46,320
wrong in an old church because it's no

2893
01:59:46,320 --> 01:59:48,480
longer a church it's a stained glass

2894
01:59:48,480 --> 01:59:49,920
company i believe

2895
01:59:49,920 --> 01:59:52,000
and then the american society one that

2896
01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:53,599
was the other one but that one we would

2897
01:59:53,599 --> 01:59:56,239
try to leave i mean i would it'll it'll

2898
01:59:56,239 --> 01:59:57,440
pain me in the

2899
01:59:57,440 --> 01:59:59,440
some of my head or add you to have a

2900
01:59:59,440 --> 02:00:01,040
different color because the stock cave

2901
02:00:01,040 --> 02:00:02,560
moved to a standard where now they want

2902
02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:05,599
this like dark slate color

2903
02:00:05,599 --> 02:00:07,520
but if i can make it work it's such a

2904
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:09,360
nice piece and it's there or the trees

2905
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:12,000
that you know i i wouldn't say so we're

2906
02:00:12,000 --> 02:00:13,360
going to keep the

2907
02:00:13,360 --> 02:00:15,520
i right now the idea is everything goes

2908
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:17,520
but the american decor historical

2909
02:00:17,520 --> 02:00:18,880
society

2910
02:00:18,880 --> 02:00:22,950
and everything else would but we have to

2911
02:00:22,960 --> 02:00:25,360
uh from the entire cause for the other

2912
02:00:25,360 --> 02:00:27,920
three for the only for that cottage

2913
02:00:27,920 --> 02:00:29,440
rover it's just copper

2914
02:00:29,440 --> 02:00:31,520
okay

2915
02:00:31,520 --> 02:00:34,159
because they have a newer curb they made

2916
02:00:34,159 --> 02:00:35,840
the investment i mean it's not you know

2917
02:00:35,840 --> 02:00:36,800
we have

2918
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:38,639
500 some thousand dollars in there it's

2919
02:00:38,639 --> 02:00:40,560
nothing and then remember

2920
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:43,679
the 500 000 i'm using that only for the

2921
02:00:43,679 --> 02:00:45,040
sidewalks

2922
02:00:45,040 --> 02:00:47,360
so if you were to look at my estimate

2923
02:00:47,360 --> 02:00:49,760
you know we are talking about

2924
02:00:49,760 --> 02:00:51,599
roughly let's say

2925
02:00:51,599 --> 02:00:53,440
120 000

2926
02:00:53,440 --> 02:00:56,000
out of that that's the max and then the

2927
02:00:56,000 --> 02:00:57,360
curve and the

2928
02:00:57,360 --> 02:00:58,960
asphalt and all that that comes out of

2929
02:00:58,960 --> 02:01:00,719
my paving program

2930
02:01:00,719 --> 02:01:02,000
you know i'm not putting that out of the

2931
02:01:02,000 --> 02:01:03,920
sidewalk because we actually have

2932
02:01:03,920 --> 02:01:05,599
almost three other streets that are

2933
02:01:05,599 --> 02:01:07,760
looking to entertain this program so we

2934
02:01:07,760 --> 02:01:09,920
do have some money for them as well and

2935
02:01:09,920 --> 02:01:11,280
then when we get to a level we might

2936
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:12,719
have to come back and

2937
02:01:12,719 --> 02:01:15,599
rebond for more we're not there yet but

2938
02:01:15,599 --> 02:01:18,709
if it goes forward

2939
02:01:18,719 --> 02:01:20,239
sorry

2940
02:01:20,239 --> 02:01:22,560
yeah you talk about the reduced price

2941
02:01:22,560 --> 02:01:24,159
in terms of setting one at a standard

2942
02:01:24,159 --> 02:01:26,880
price and not what is

2943
02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:28,880
the estimate

2944
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,000
what's the and you're looking at what

2945
02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:32,480
you mean but it's also big bidding

2946
02:01:32,480 --> 02:01:34,840
and a price that comes back from the

2947
02:01:34,840 --> 02:01:37,599
contractor you're asking us to take a

2948
02:01:37,599 --> 02:01:39,599
portion of that

2949
02:01:39,599 --> 02:01:42,229
in-house

2950
02:01:42,239 --> 02:01:44,560
i'm asking that if we were to

2951
02:01:44,560 --> 02:01:46,560
almost set you could set the price today

2952
02:01:46,560 --> 02:01:48,080
i could give you an estimate based off

2953
02:01:48,080 --> 02:01:49,199
of some of the numbers i have because

2954
02:01:49,199 --> 02:01:50,960
we're doing a lot of work right now

2955
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:52,639
and we would say that this is the number

2956
02:01:52,639 --> 02:01:53,840
that we're comfortable with this is a

2957
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:54,719
number that the neighborhood's

2958
02:01:54,719 --> 02:01:56,719
comfortable with maybe it's not 55 maybe

2959
02:01:56,719 --> 02:01:58,480
it's 65 and that number works out and

2960
02:01:58,480 --> 02:01:59,920
tell everybody and then whatever the

2961
02:01:59,920 --> 02:02:02,320
bids come back and they come back in and

2962
02:02:02,320 --> 02:02:05,199
we do the work and we don't we don't go

2963
02:02:05,199 --> 02:02:07,119
okay well you owe us 20 more because the

2964
02:02:07,119 --> 02:02:08,800
bid came in higher we just use it as

2965
02:02:08,800 --> 02:02:10,239
some kind of a subsidy some of the

2966
02:02:10,239 --> 02:02:12,719
models used before where

2967
02:02:12,719 --> 02:02:14,719
the city just made up the difference

2968
02:02:14,719 --> 02:02:16,000
where the numbers

2969
02:02:16,000 --> 02:02:17,599
and i was getting there because uh we

2970
02:02:17,599 --> 02:02:19,520
had the problem and we subsidized

2971
02:02:19,520 --> 02:02:22,639
portion of this it was not sell

2972
02:02:22,639 --> 02:02:24,400
correctly across the city people were

2973
02:02:24,400 --> 02:02:26,800
complaining about why am i paying for

2974
02:02:26,800 --> 02:02:29,199
the camp taxpayer paid for the camp or

2975
02:02:29,199 --> 02:02:30,639
parsley

2976
02:02:30,639 --> 02:02:33,280
those residents should bear the entire

2977
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:34,239
cause

2978
02:02:34,239 --> 02:02:35,599
yeah

2979
02:02:35,599 --> 02:02:37,199
i'm not an elected official my argument

2980
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:39,920
always is that these are residents that

2981
02:02:39,920 --> 02:02:42,000
are putting skin in the game

2982
02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:43,760
you know i mean this is not this is not

2983
02:02:43,760 --> 02:02:45,199
free you know if they were to put it in

2984
02:02:45,199 --> 02:02:47,360
this is this you know sixty five dollars

2985
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:49,280
times forty feet you know it's what is

2986
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:50,639
that twenty three hundred out you know

2987
02:02:50,639 --> 02:02:52,400
that we're we're not giving things away

2988
02:02:52,400 --> 02:02:53,920
but we're trying to subsidize to try to

2989
02:02:53,920 --> 02:02:55,840
make the program work and you know mr

2990
02:02:55,840 --> 02:02:57,440
palmini's been working on this for years

2991
02:02:57,440 --> 02:02:59,199
we've been trying to come up with some

2992
02:02:59,199 --> 02:03:02,159
way to improve our sidewalks so that is

2993
02:03:02,159 --> 02:03:03,040
it i mean

2994
02:03:03,040 --> 02:03:04,960
prior to mayor mccarthy's administration

2995
02:03:04,960 --> 02:03:07,040
remember it was a lottery you know like

2996
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:08,639
for instance

2997
02:03:08,639 --> 02:03:09,920
wright avenue got all brand new

2998
02:03:09,920 --> 02:03:12,239
sidewalks for free and to camp where i

2999
02:03:12,239 --> 02:03:14,960
am we'd pay you know i get an assessment

3000
02:03:14,960 --> 02:03:17,119
every year so how did that get decided i

3001
02:03:17,119 --> 02:03:18,480
just wanted new sidewalks and it seemed

3002
02:03:18,480 --> 02:03:20,000
like a good program because it was done

3003
02:03:20,000 --> 02:03:21,280
uniformly

3004
02:03:21,280 --> 02:03:23,360
um but i understand that from from that

3005
02:03:23,360 --> 02:03:24,639
but that's what

3006
02:03:24,639 --> 02:03:26,560
yeah

3007
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:31,350
well no i

3008
02:03:31,360 --> 02:03:33,520
so when um i think i think that's the

3009
02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,679
old holy cross church and countertrove

3010
02:03:35,679 --> 02:03:37,280
whatever so when they went ahead and did

3011
02:03:37,280 --> 02:03:38,880
their sidewalks i'm assuming they had a

3012
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:40,000
permit and

3013
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:42,639
why didn't someone at that point just

3014
02:03:42,639 --> 02:03:44,639
wanted to know that

3015
02:03:44,639 --> 02:03:46,560
so i don't know when they when they did

3016
02:03:46,560 --> 02:03:48,560
it now number one is that the current

3017
02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:50,320
owner didn't do it so i can't ask them

3018
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:52,719
the church did it but what they did is

3019
02:03:52,719 --> 02:03:54,560
they put in the curb and they put in the

3020
02:03:54,560 --> 02:03:56,880
sidewalks per our plan based off the

3021
02:03:56,880 --> 02:03:58,800
road but they didn't do it based off

3022
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,320
across the street

3023
02:04:00,320 --> 02:04:01,599
you know they didn't do it based off of

3024
02:04:01,599 --> 02:04:02,880
anything else so

3025
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,040
i think in hindsight yes they shouldn't

3026
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:06,960
have they should have put the curb in at

3027
02:04:06,960 --> 02:04:08,239
two inches

3028
02:04:08,239 --> 02:04:10,320
but uh i i think that's that is

3029
02:04:10,320 --> 02:04:12,320
difficult i mean and that's why i

3030
02:04:12,320 --> 02:04:14,079
included you know just so you guys so

3031
02:04:14,079 --> 02:04:16,239
you see you know this this picture right

3032
02:04:16,239 --> 02:04:18,480
here the first picture this is the curb

3033
02:04:18,480 --> 02:04:20,719
reveal across the street from the church

3034
02:04:20,719 --> 02:04:23,280
you know it's it's smooth so that's

3035
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:26,159
where and then and that that step

3036
02:04:26,159 --> 02:04:28,000
right there that is one of my control

3037
02:04:28,000 --> 02:04:30,320
points so i have to build almost the

3038
02:04:30,320 --> 02:04:32,159
entire road

3039
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:33,840
i have to build the entire road based

3040
02:04:33,840 --> 02:04:35,280
off of that step

3041
02:04:35,280 --> 02:04:37,199
because if i go too high and i pitch

3042
02:04:37,199 --> 02:04:38,800
water into that window

3043
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:40,639
that and we had that issue at the camp

3044
02:04:40,639 --> 02:04:42,880
where we were being a little too

3045
02:04:42,880 --> 02:04:45,040
stubborn to our city specs

3046
02:04:45,040 --> 02:04:47,199
and we started pitching water

3047
02:04:47,199 --> 02:04:48,960
and so now everything revolves around

3048
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,119
water we have to get the water where it

3049
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:53,360
needs to go because it results in a lot

3050
02:04:53,360 --> 02:04:56,000
of reworking complaints but the idea of

3051
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:59,199
subsidy that's for you guys i mean we could say

3052
02:04:59,199 --> 02:05:00,960
no when we can pass it right to them

3053
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:03,360
that's perfectly acceptable it's just

3054
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:04,719
it's a big variable that i don't have i

3055
02:05:04,719 --> 02:05:06,320
can't give anybody a number based off of

3056
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,400
the bid right now

3057
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,560
miss patrick so if i hear what mr

3058
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,320
mcveiron is saying and certainly we did

3059
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:15,520
have um conflict when uh

3060
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:17,920
we ended up

3061
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:19,119
we were going to have to charge the

3062
02:05:19,119 --> 02:05:21,599
residents of um to camp and artsley more

3063
02:05:21,599 --> 02:05:23,760
than we had originally told them but i

3064
02:05:23,760 --> 02:05:25,760
think in this instance

3065
02:05:25,760 --> 02:05:28,000
we'll have a realistic price hopefully

3066
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:30,719
that that mr wall will be setting but if

3067
02:05:30,719 --> 02:05:32,719
we go into it understanding that we

3068
02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:34,639
might have to subsidize on the other end

3069
02:05:34,639 --> 02:05:35,679
if that

3070
02:05:35,679 --> 02:05:36,719
estimate

3071
02:05:36,719 --> 02:05:39,040
uh ends up being a little low would be

3072
02:05:39,040 --> 02:05:40,880
communicating that in advance to the

3073
02:05:40,880 --> 02:05:42,719
residents so i think we would avoid the

3074
02:05:42,719 --> 02:05:45,360
problem that we had before so i want to

3075
02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:47,920
thank mr paul many for working so hard

3076
02:05:47,920 --> 02:05:50,880
on this with ms runfield as you have for

3077
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:53,920
a while now been working on this um but

3078
02:05:53,920 --> 02:05:55,760
i like the idea that

3079
02:05:55,760 --> 02:05:57,119
if we

3080
02:05:57,119 --> 02:06:00,000
i want to see this happen more and more so

3081
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:02,480
um i i definitely am in favor of

3082
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:07,440
actually having a subsidy as well as supporting paying the

3083
02:06:07,440 --> 02:06:10,000
current owner of the property that put

3084
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:11,360
in the new sidewalks and that we would

3085
02:06:11,360 --> 02:06:13,920
love to tear up um i'd support that as

3086
02:06:13,920 --> 02:06:16,159
well

3087
02:06:16,159 --> 02:06:19,040
so mr rivera mr bellamy so so question

3088
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:21,119
here uh mr ferrari would this

3089
02:06:21,119 --> 02:06:28,629
neighborhood fall under the city

3090
02:06:28,639 --> 02:06:29,520
then you

3091
02:06:29,520 --> 02:06:35,510
[Music]

3092
02:06:35,520 --> 02:06:38,239
to your point miss patrick the the two

3093
02:06:38,239 --> 02:06:40,400
roads where we did have issues we ended

3094
02:06:40,400 --> 02:06:42,960
up subsidizing them right we made right

3095
02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,760
by them with a higher cost and it ended

3096
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:48,639
up turning out very nice um while it

3097
02:06:48,639 --> 02:06:50,159
wasn't the

3098
02:06:50,159 --> 02:06:51,360
intent

3099
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,599
the fact is it ends up being a

3100
02:06:53,599 --> 02:06:55,360
public-private partnership with our

3101
02:06:55,360 --> 02:06:58,960
residents it raises property values

3102
02:06:58,960 --> 02:07:01,920
it increases the attractability of

3103
02:07:01,920 --> 02:07:04,639
families to the city um

3104
02:07:04,639 --> 02:07:06,639
you know i think it's something that we

3105
02:07:06,639 --> 02:07:08,079
should really

3106
02:07:08,079 --> 02:07:10,960
look to try to do and try to help out

3107
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:12,960
residents with their sidewalks because

3108
02:07:12,960 --> 02:07:14,800
they are so expensive and

3109
02:07:14,800 --> 02:07:16,800
costs have gone up and

3110
02:07:16,800 --> 02:07:19,440
we have that 500 something 000 set aside

3111
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:21,599
for this purpose

3112
02:07:21,599 --> 02:07:23,679
and to your point regarding the trees

3113
02:07:23,679 --> 02:07:25,520
it's an excellent point

3114
02:07:25,520 --> 02:07:29,760
but i believe the stockade has a tree

3115
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:31,199
program

3116
02:07:31,199 --> 02:07:34,159
in place so that would kind of fix some

3117
02:07:34,159 --> 02:07:36,400
of that

3118
02:07:36,400 --> 02:07:38,079
all right so

3119
02:07:38,079 --> 02:07:39,520
mr rivera

3120
02:07:39,520 --> 02:07:42,159
so can we go to the homeowners with an

3121
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:44,239
estimated price and let them know that

3122
02:07:44,239 --> 02:07:45,760
when the final bid

3123
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:46,880
comes in

3124
02:07:46,880 --> 02:07:48,400
there will be a revised price and the

3125
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:51,440
cost will pass pass on to

3126
02:07:51,440 --> 02:07:55,750
the difference with a revised

3127
02:07:55,760 --> 02:07:58,480
so go to them with an estimate

3128
02:07:58,480 --> 02:08:00,159
but with the understanding that after

3129
02:08:00,159 --> 02:08:03,520
it's good that it would be revised yes

3130
02:08:03,520 --> 02:08:05,040
my

3131
02:08:05,040 --> 02:08:07,119
question is just go out for the bid so

3132
02:08:07,119 --> 02:08:10,320
that we've got actual numbers

3133
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,239
right then go back and talk back to the

3134
02:08:12,239 --> 02:08:13,599
council and say

3135
02:08:13,599 --> 02:08:16,000
you're going to set the fee at

3136
02:08:16,000 --> 02:08:18,960
50 60

3137
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,599
yeah some appropriate number and to see

3138
02:08:21,599 --> 02:08:23,199
what the

3139
02:08:23,199 --> 02:08:24,480
you know

3140
02:08:24,480 --> 02:08:25,760
yeah i can't agree with that because we

3141
02:08:25,760 --> 02:08:28,159
need to give them the the true number uh

3142
02:08:28,159 --> 02:08:30,719
i think we have learned from the streets

3143
02:08:30,719 --> 02:08:32,719
and we did the complaints that we had

3144
02:08:32,719 --> 02:08:34,400
and things like that passing on and out

3145
02:08:34,400 --> 02:08:40,159
of taxpayer complaining if it was in the district of cdbg yes we

3146
02:08:40,159 --> 02:08:42,960
could july cdbg funding that will set

3147
02:08:42,960 --> 02:08:45,840
aside and they also push in that subsidy

3148
02:08:45,840 --> 02:08:48,079
right in the car should pass on directly

3149
02:08:48,079 --> 02:08:49,920
to all the homeowners because the same

3150
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:51,760
thing we had done for the

3151
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:53,920
central parkway we passed on the

3152
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:56,320
estimate we didn't tell them there was

3153
02:08:56,320 --> 02:08:58,400
going to be any subsidy so they put it a

3154
02:08:58,400 --> 02:09:00,239
hole right now trying to

3155
02:09:00,239 --> 02:09:02,000
get the additional homeowners on board

3156
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:04,320
and everybody board with that price that

3157
02:09:04,320 --> 02:09:06,400
estimated price that was presented

3158
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:07,840
and we did not tell them that we're

3159
02:09:07,840 --> 02:09:09,920
going to subsidize the camp i'm sorry

3160
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:12,560
central parkway okay so we wanted to

3161
02:09:12,560 --> 02:09:14,639
appear across the shore central parkway

3162
02:09:14,639 --> 02:09:16,800
has uh i understand that but i don't

3163
02:09:16,800 --> 02:09:20,079
remember that uh even coming to the uh

3164
02:09:20,079 --> 02:09:21,599
public hearing

3165
02:09:21,599 --> 02:09:24,480
and to allow for a discussion to

3166
02:09:24,480 --> 02:09:26,560
subsidize that price no mr wally give us

3167
02:09:26,560 --> 02:09:29,280
an estimate to present to the group

3168
02:09:29,280 --> 02:09:31,199
right i understand that but the public

3169
02:09:31,199 --> 02:09:32,960
hearing would allow them to comment and

3170
02:09:32,960 --> 02:09:34,719
then it would have came back to us to

3171
02:09:34,719 --> 02:09:35,679
either

3172
02:09:35,679 --> 02:09:37,920
say yes with this price or

3173
02:09:37,920 --> 02:09:40,079
okay i'm making up a number it's 80

3174
02:09:40,079 --> 02:09:41,040
dollars

3175
02:09:41,040 --> 02:09:44,079
you know you pay 65 will cover the 15.

3176
02:09:44,079 --> 02:09:45,760
that's all i'm saying is that yeah so

3177
02:09:45,760 --> 02:09:47,360
long just last year when we were doing

3178
02:09:47,360 --> 02:09:48,639
this and we were just passing on the

3179
02:09:48,639 --> 02:09:50,400
console and you were mentioning that

3180
02:09:50,400 --> 02:09:52,960
it's 45 days it's valid for 45 days and

3181
02:09:52,960 --> 02:09:54,480
they were like

3182
02:09:54,480 --> 02:09:55,920
they were asking for subsidy and we're

3183
02:09:55,920 --> 02:10:00,560
like no stop sitting true cause my my

3184
02:10:00,560 --> 02:10:02,239
recommendation it's in conflict with

3185
02:10:02,239 --> 02:10:04,480
yours but my recommendation is that we

3186
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:06,239
come to some agreement in this program

3187
02:10:06,239 --> 02:10:08,480
and have a set number

3188
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:10,079
because we have so many people that are

3189
02:10:10,079 --> 02:10:12,079
interested but they don't have a cost

3190
02:10:12,079 --> 02:10:13,920
and that always stops everyone because

3191
02:10:13,920 --> 02:10:15,840
the people that are on the fence always

3192
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:18,079
say well how much is it going to cost me

3193
02:10:18,079 --> 02:10:20,159
and then we kind of hit a standstill and

3194
02:10:20,159 --> 02:10:22,960
then the prices vary so much and when we

3195
02:10:22,960 --> 02:10:24,880
do the bid and the bid number it could

3196
02:10:24,880 --> 02:10:27,199
be substantial i mean i look at it as

3197
02:10:27,199 --> 02:10:28,800
like i guess we you know

3198
02:10:28,800 --> 02:10:31,440
um is that these are people that are

3199
02:10:31,440 --> 02:10:33,199
they're putting skin in the game to get

3200
02:10:33,199 --> 02:10:35,280
something back the only issue i can see

3201
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:37,679
as a taxpayer is if you were happy to be

3202
02:10:37,679 --> 02:10:39,920
on the street where you wanted to do it

3203
02:10:39,920 --> 02:10:41,920
but the street wasn't amicable to do it

3204
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:44,239
so you got caught in a catch 22 because

3205
02:10:44,239 --> 02:10:46,400
we're not looking to do individual

3206
02:10:46,400 --> 02:10:48,320
properties right so then that person can

3207
02:10:48,320 --> 02:10:50,400
be shut out of the program right

3208
02:10:50,400 --> 02:10:52,800
there i could see some conflict but i

3209
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,520
can get a bid i can put this i mean it's

3210
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:56,800
going to take me a little while if

3211
02:10:56,800 --> 02:10:57,760
that's the direction we want to do

3212
02:10:57,760 --> 02:10:59,280
because this is a like i said we're

3213
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:00,320
going to need a i'm going to need a

3214
02:11:00,320 --> 02:11:01,679
design on it but if we want to go that

3215
02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:03,599
right it's fine are we okay with these

3216
02:11:03,599 --> 02:11:05,840
numbers moving forward because these are

3217
02:11:05,840 --> 02:11:07,520
the numbers that you know the

3218
02:11:07,520 --> 02:11:08,960
percentages i just want to make sure you

3219
02:11:08,960 --> 02:11:11,119
know there's that because that's kind of

3220
02:11:11,119 --> 02:11:12,639
the step one if you're comfortable with

3221
02:11:12,639 --> 02:11:14,159
that i think then

3222
02:11:14,159 --> 02:11:15,360
that's good i don't want it i don't want

3223
02:11:15,360 --> 02:11:16,480
to come back and you say well there's

3224
02:11:16,480 --> 02:11:17,760
not enough people that are in favor of a

3225
02:11:17,760 --> 02:11:23,360
project because yeah what's their percentage

3226
02:11:23,360 --> 02:11:24,480
some

3227
02:11:24,480 --> 02:11:26,239
six

3228
02:11:26,239 --> 02:11:27,920
seventy seven seventy

3229
02:11:27,920 --> 02:11:32,719
one i think that's fine

3230
02:11:32,719 --> 02:11:36,480
okay yeah all right then i will

3231
02:11:36,480 --> 02:11:38,719
well just as a footnote i think

3232
02:11:38,719 --> 02:11:41,440
if we move forward in this regard and

3233
02:11:41,440 --> 02:11:44,079
follow mr walt's recommendation we could

3234
02:11:44,079 --> 02:11:45,840
always go back to the residents of

3235
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:47,440
central parkway

3236
02:11:47,440 --> 02:11:49,760
and just say here's what we now

3237
02:11:49,760 --> 02:11:51,119
apologize

3238
02:11:51,119 --> 02:11:54,320
because again remember that um

3239
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:55,840
it was a new

3240
02:11:55,840 --> 02:11:57,520
program i mean i wasn't on council when

3241
02:11:57,520 --> 02:11:58,639
it first

3242
02:11:58,639 --> 02:12:00,320
started um

3243
02:12:00,320 --> 02:12:02,400
i got to be on council when we got the

3244
02:12:02,400 --> 02:12:04,480
complaints from the residents on the

3245
02:12:04,480 --> 02:12:07,040
other end but um i think

3246
02:12:07,040 --> 02:12:08,239
you know we can always go back to

3247
02:12:08,239 --> 02:12:10,239
central parkway people and maybe they'll

3248
02:12:10,239 --> 02:12:11,840
do it but i just think the more that we

3249
02:12:11,840 --> 02:12:14,000
can grow this program we hear about it

3250
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:15,840
all the time i'm sure we all do people

3251
02:12:15,840 --> 02:12:18,480
calling about about sidewalks

3252
02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:20,159
so i think it's i think it's a great

3253
02:12:20,159 --> 02:12:21,520
program so

3254
02:12:21,520 --> 02:12:24,560
what are your next um i'm sorry

3255
02:12:24,560 --> 02:12:26,239
so what what are your next

3256
02:12:26,239 --> 02:12:28,400
our next steps here well i guess

3257
02:12:28,400 --> 02:12:30,159
if it sounds like the recommendation is

3258
02:12:30,159 --> 02:12:32,400
to go forward with the design in a bit

3259
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:34,560
and get numbers and bring them back to

3260
02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:36,000
this group

3261
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:38,000
um the only thing i will say about that

3262
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:40,800
is i understand that that is the most

3263
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,199
time-consuming way possible

3264
02:12:43,199 --> 02:12:44,159
for

3265
02:12:44,159 --> 02:12:46,719
me for you so i just if we don't go

3266
02:12:46,719 --> 02:12:48,960
forward you know like like if we if if

3267
02:12:48,960 --> 02:12:50,560
we had something in the paint no so now

3268
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:51,440
what we're going to do is we're going to

3269
02:12:51,440 --> 02:12:52,960
get the numbers we're going to go to the

3270
02:12:52,960 --> 02:12:54,960
people and we're going to there is a lot

3271
02:12:54,960 --> 02:12:57,599
of time in other words so if they say no

3272
02:12:57,599 --> 02:13:00,159
i just spent a lot of time with bids and

3273
02:13:00,159 --> 02:13:06,709
documents

3274
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:08,320
and it's always

3275
02:13:08,320 --> 02:13:10,159
just what the final number is and what

3276
02:13:10,159 --> 02:13:12,719
the uh so what we'll go for i just if

3277
02:13:12,719 --> 02:13:14,719
that's the way we're gonna

3278
02:13:14,719 --> 02:13:16,639
it makes sense because hopefully we'll

3279
02:13:16,639 --> 02:13:18,560
have a realistic number exactly i'm

3280
02:13:18,560 --> 02:13:21,910
sorry in this sorry

3281
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:22,960
the cost

3282
02:13:22,960 --> 02:13:25,360
estimates and the allocation over

3283
02:13:25,360 --> 02:13:28,320
financing again the homeowner is given

3284
02:13:28,320 --> 02:13:29,599
the property owner is given the

3285
02:13:29,599 --> 02:13:32,000
opportunity to just pay up front they

3286
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:34,000
can pay the number and be done

3287
02:13:34,000 --> 02:13:37,199
or they can finance it this is the 5 10

3288
02:13:37,199 --> 02:13:39,040
15

3289
02:13:39,040 --> 02:13:41,199
you can go up to 20 years with this it

3290
02:13:41,199 --> 02:13:42,639
creates more

3291
02:13:42,639 --> 02:13:45,840
paperwork in the finance department

3292
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:49,199
but the sidewalks are going to last over

3293
02:13:49,199 --> 02:13:51,119
20 years you know it's a major

3294
02:13:51,119 --> 02:13:53,679
investment it's a long term

3295
02:13:53,679 --> 02:13:56,159
improvement in

3296
02:13:56,159 --> 02:13:57,440
sometimes that can make a difference

3297
02:13:57,440 --> 02:13:59,360
people look at what's

3298
02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:02,000
actually going to cost them every year

3299
02:14:02,000 --> 02:14:03,440
you know and if it's

3300
02:14:03,440 --> 02:14:05,119
a couple hundred dollars

3301
02:14:05,119 --> 02:14:06,880
they're much more amenable to it than if

3302
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:09,119
it's a couple thousand now yeah

3303
02:14:09,119 --> 02:14:10,880
okay okay

3304
02:14:10,880 --> 02:14:20,629
thank

3305
02:14:20,639 --> 02:14:22,480
approximately are we supposed to

3306
02:14:22,480 --> 02:14:37,109
replenish that um

3307
02:14:37,119 --> 02:14:43,510
okay

3308
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:47,119
um there is at the last on the

3309
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:49,280
spreadsheet you provided chris

3310
02:14:49,280 --> 02:14:51,520
van dyke law you don't have any footage

3311
02:14:51,520 --> 02:14:53,520
on that are you planning to replace the

3312
02:14:53,520 --> 02:14:55,599
sidewalk no okay i saw the costs

3313
02:14:55,599 --> 02:14:57,679
associated all right no i'm gonna leave

3314
02:14:57,679 --> 02:14:59,199
i was planning on leaving the van dyke

3315
02:14:59,199 --> 02:15:01,199
car okay okay okay

3316
02:15:01,199 --> 02:15:02,079
all right

3317
02:15:02,079 --> 02:15:05,119
so any other questions comments so mr

3318
02:15:05,119 --> 02:15:07,119
wallace it's clear that you'll do some

3319
02:15:07,119 --> 02:15:08,480
work

3320
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:09,679
well thank you for all the more thanks

3321
02:15:09,679 --> 02:15:11,119
for having me i appreciate that and

3322
02:15:11,119 --> 02:15:13,040
thank you mr palomini along with miss

3323
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:16,800
uncle yes she was here she must oh she's

3324
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:22,149
back

3325
02:15:22,159 --> 02:15:24,000
for all the work you put into this so i

3326
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:25,679
appreciate that yeah so

3327
02:15:25,679 --> 02:15:27,040
do some work

3328
02:15:27,040 --> 02:15:28,239
all right thank you guys all right thank

3329
02:15:28,239 --> 02:15:31,510
you

3330
02:15:31,520 --> 02:15:33,840
okay item on the agenda is the resulting

3331
02:15:33,840 --> 02:15:38,239
of 12 76 78 and 88 uh belmont avenue we

3332
02:15:38,239 --> 02:15:40,320
had a public hearing on

3333
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:43,360
may 23rd and um

3334
02:15:43,360 --> 02:15:45,199
i don't think anybody actually signed up

3335
02:15:45,199 --> 02:15:46,639
for that public hearing so right now we

3336
02:15:46,639 --> 02:15:49,199
just need to move this out

3337
02:15:49,199 --> 02:15:52,719
so second all those in favor hi hi

3338
02:15:52,719 --> 02:15:55,360
and uh item number five the application

3339
02:15:55,360 --> 02:15:57,280
of the uh overlay historic district

3340
02:15:57,280 --> 02:15:59,679
zoning on 145 barrett street public

3341
02:15:59,679 --> 02:16:02,000
hearing again was on may 23rd and i

3342
02:16:02,000 --> 02:16:03,360
don't believe anyone signed up for that

3343
02:16:03,360 --> 02:16:06,079
either so we have no comments

3344
02:16:06,079 --> 02:16:07,520
in motion

3345
02:16:07,520 --> 02:16:08,800
second

3346
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:11,119
all those in favor aye aye

3347
02:16:11,119 --> 02:16:13,119
okay item number six ceremonial

3348
02:16:13,119 --> 02:16:15,840
resolution for flag day miss patrick yes

3349
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:18,079
um we did this last year i'd just like

3350
02:16:18,079 --> 02:16:20,320
to do it again flag day

3351
02:16:20,320 --> 02:16:22,400
is a national holiday that has been

3352
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:24,239
around for decades and

3353
02:16:24,239 --> 02:16:27,360
recognizes the importance of the flag as

3354
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:30,470
a unifying

3355
02:16:30,480 --> 02:16:32,880
symbol of our country so i'd just like

3356
02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:34,880
to do this again um and we will have

3357
02:16:34,880 --> 02:16:36,479
somebody coming so this will be at the

3358
02:16:36,479 --> 02:16:39,280
council meeting yes okay

3359
02:16:39,280 --> 02:16:41,439
oh instead of motion so

3360
02:16:41,439 --> 02:16:44,000
second all those in favor

3361
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,160
okay uh ceremony resolution for pride

3362
02:16:46,160 --> 02:16:48,399
month june 1st the 29th

3363
02:16:48,399 --> 02:16:51,760
mr turu yes i'm sorry my tangent i

3364
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:53,359
couldn't figure out how to type it on my

3365
02:16:53,359 --> 02:16:55,359
computer and print it in the little

3366
02:16:55,359 --> 02:16:58,950
spots that needed to be

3367
02:16:58,960 --> 02:17:00,559
up printed

3368
02:17:00,559 --> 02:17:03,120
but i did it as best as i could so i

3369
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:04,960
would like to um

3370
02:17:04,960 --> 02:17:07,920
uh present have a ceremony resolution at

3371
02:17:07,920 --> 02:17:10,800
the council meeting um to celebrate

3372
02:17:10,800 --> 02:17:13,040
pride month um i think it's very

3373
02:17:13,040 --> 02:17:14,719
important that we

3374
02:17:14,719 --> 02:17:16,719
with our culture we recognize everyone

3375
02:17:16,719 --> 02:17:19,679
who is involved in our community and um

3376
02:17:19,679 --> 02:17:21,280
plan to have a few

3377
02:17:21,280 --> 02:17:23,120
people present there to get the

3378
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:24,479
presentation

3379
02:17:24,479 --> 02:17:25,840
so again at the council meeting this

3380
02:17:25,840 --> 02:17:28,719
coming monday all right thank you okay

3381
02:17:28,719 --> 02:17:31,040
emotions so moved

3382
02:17:31,040 --> 02:17:34,059
second all those in favor aye aye

3383
02:17:34,059 --> 02:17:35,280
[Music]

3384
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:37,439
okay uh next item on the agenda is a

3385
02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:39,040
ceremony resolution

3386
02:17:39,040 --> 02:17:40,880
recognizing june 10th

3387
02:17:40,880 --> 02:17:42,639
so this week this year as we know that

3388
02:17:42,639 --> 02:17:44,240
juneteenth is now actually a national

3389
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:47,760
holiday um and locally juneteenth these

3390
02:17:47,760 --> 02:17:49,519
celebrations will be on the 17th and the

3391
02:17:49,519 --> 02:17:51,040
18th of june

3392
02:17:51,040 --> 02:17:53,679
so i would like this uh and we've always

3393
02:17:53,679 --> 02:17:56,240
done this particular resolution but the

3394
02:17:56,240 --> 02:17:57,760
resolution would be presented at the

3395
02:17:57,760 --> 02:17:59,599
actual juneteenth celebration in central

3396
02:17:59,599 --> 02:18:01,920
park on the 18th that's the two o'clock

3397
02:18:01,920 --> 02:18:04,319
i think i saw on the schedule

3398
02:18:04,319 --> 02:18:08,830
okay i think it looked like it wasn't me

3399
02:18:08,840 --> 02:18:10,160
yeah do that

3400
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:13,040
and uh so i'll move this second all this

3401
02:18:13,040 --> 02:18:14,719
in favor all right

3402
02:18:14,719 --> 02:18:17,679
okay ceremony resolution for caribbean

3403
02:18:17,679 --> 02:18:20,160
american heritage month mr mutaveron

3404
02:18:20,160 --> 02:18:22,240
thank you yes june is recognized as

3405
02:18:22,240 --> 02:18:24,319
caribbean american heritage month and

3406
02:18:24,319 --> 02:18:26,639
i'm requesting a resolution to recognize

3407
02:18:26,639 --> 02:18:28,080
the contribution from the caribbean

3408
02:18:28,080 --> 02:18:29,439
american

3409
02:18:29,439 --> 02:18:32,000
towards our city

3410
02:18:32,000 --> 02:18:34,639
all right the draft was presented and

3411
02:18:34,639 --> 02:18:36,080
this i am

3412
02:18:36,080 --> 02:18:38,080
pushing to have this presented at our

3413
02:18:38,080 --> 02:18:39,679
next meeting if uh at the council

3414
02:18:39,679 --> 02:18:41,359
meeting yes okay

3415
02:18:41,359 --> 02:18:42,639
we got a few

3416
02:18:42,639 --> 02:18:44,719
yeah

3417
02:18:44,719 --> 02:18:46,880
okay it's like notion

3418
02:18:46,880 --> 02:18:49,040
all those in favor

3419
02:18:49,040 --> 02:18:51,120
okay our next uh agenda item is a

3420
02:18:51,120 --> 02:18:54,000
discussion poet laureate mr williams oh

3421
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:56,000
thank you

3422
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:57,920
council president uh so i'm excited to

3423
02:18:57,920 --> 02:19:00,240
bring this forward uh definitely poet

3424
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:02,319
laureates i think to my knowledge we

3425
02:19:02,319 --> 02:19:04,319
haven't had one within the city and they

3426
02:19:04,319 --> 02:19:07,280
exist on governing bodies to read

3427
02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:09,760
poetry to also extend to selective

3428
02:19:09,760 --> 02:19:12,719
readings during just ceremonies hosted

3429
02:19:12,719 --> 02:19:14,479
at the council meetings

3430
02:19:14,479 --> 02:19:15,439
um

3431
02:19:15,439 --> 02:19:18,240
they are put in position at the federal

3432
02:19:18,240 --> 02:19:20,160
and state level however there's a lot of

3433
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:22,800
legislation online that speaks to

3434
02:19:22,800 --> 02:19:24,639
cities or townships being able to elect

3435
02:19:24,639 --> 02:19:26,800
these types of positions

3436
02:19:26,800 --> 02:19:29,439
there are different caveats as to what

3437
02:19:29,439 --> 02:19:30,880
makes

3438
02:19:30,880 --> 02:19:32,240
a polarity

3439
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:34,080
and they have stipulations such as

3440
02:19:34,080 --> 02:19:35,920
living within the city uh having

3441
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:37,840
published various works

3442
02:19:37,840 --> 02:19:39,519
and then also demonstrating a commitment

3443
02:19:39,519 --> 02:19:42,559
to be behind the artwork of of being a

3444
02:19:42,559 --> 02:19:45,359
poet uh and being over the age of 18.

3445
02:19:45,359 --> 02:19:47,439
so some of the reasoning as to why

3446
02:19:47,439 --> 02:19:49,520
electing this type of position i think

3447
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:50,960
as we

3448
02:19:50,960 --> 02:19:53,520
spoken and then actually had discussions

3449
02:19:53,520 --> 02:19:56,160
about sros it's understanding the

3450
02:19:56,160 --> 02:19:57,920
importance of working collaboratively

3451
02:19:57,920 --> 02:19:59,439
with our school district and definitely

3452
02:19:59,439 --> 02:20:01,439
this position there can be expectations

3453
02:20:01,439 --> 02:20:03,439
put in place to help support literacy

3454
02:20:03,439 --> 02:20:04,399
efforts

3455
02:20:04,399 --> 02:20:06,640
within the city and also combining this

3456
02:20:06,640 --> 02:20:08,560
individual to work with

3457
02:20:08,560 --> 02:20:09,840
libraries

3458
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:16,800
and functioning as a city official to drive

3459
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:19,520
being aware of programs or projects

3460
02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:21,439
partnering with those individuals and

3461
02:20:21,439 --> 02:20:23,040
advocating for

3462
02:20:23,040 --> 02:20:25,040
poetry

3463
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:28,080
just trying to keep my thoughts together

3464
02:20:28,080 --> 02:20:29,280
so

3465
02:20:29,280 --> 02:20:30,880
i saw this position

3466
02:20:30,880 --> 02:20:33,200
honestly just being able to collaborate

3467
02:20:33,200 --> 02:20:36,800
um across our libraries uh with our city

3468
02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:39,680
with our school districts and um being

3469
02:20:39,680 --> 02:20:41,520
able to formalize a process for

3470
02:20:41,520 --> 02:20:44,319
nominating this individual

3471
02:20:44,319 --> 02:20:46,399
i definitely have come across a lot of

3472
02:20:46,399 --> 02:20:48,399
individuals that

3473
02:20:48,399 --> 02:20:51,280
embrace the art form of being poets and

3474
02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:54,080
i think as we intentionally deal with

3475
02:20:54,080 --> 02:20:55,920
incidents such as gun violence i think

3476
02:20:55,920 --> 02:20:58,399
taking the moment to recognize the

3477
02:20:58,399 --> 02:20:59,520
talent that exists within our

3478
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:00,640
communities

3479
02:21:00,640 --> 02:21:02,720
to allow this position to

3480
02:21:02,720 --> 02:21:03,840
function

3481
02:21:03,840 --> 02:21:06,479
collaboratively with the city council

3482
02:21:06,479 --> 02:21:08,640
kind of serving more or less you have

3483
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:10,240
individuals that all don't believe in

3484
02:21:10,240 --> 02:21:16,240
god so i think having a position that during our ceremonies is able to

3485
02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:18,160
read a poem or so that captures the

3486
02:21:18,160 --> 02:21:22,319
essence of an unveiling or

3487
02:21:22,319 --> 02:21:23,359
of whatever

3488
02:21:23,359 --> 02:21:25,040
ceremony comes

3489
02:21:25,040 --> 02:21:27,040
before the council i think this can be

3490
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:29,840
an opportunity for us to just provide an

3491
02:21:29,840 --> 02:21:30,880
outlet

3492
02:21:30,880 --> 02:21:34,000
for this individual

3493
02:21:34,000 --> 02:21:34,880
okay

3494
02:21:34,880 --> 02:21:37,439
so um mr williams tell me about this i

3495
02:21:37,439 --> 02:21:39,840
told when i think the first time i got

3496
02:21:39,840 --> 02:21:42,240
uh when i was sworn in i actually had

3497
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:43,760
someone they wrote a problem for me so

3498
02:21:43,760 --> 02:21:45,200
you know i have a real polar glory but

3499
02:21:45,200 --> 02:21:49,439
that's supposed to be every guy so um

3500
02:21:49,439 --> 02:21:50,720
do you is there what if there's a

3501
02:21:50,720 --> 02:21:52,240
methodology for

3502
02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:54,640
you know how to go about this is it

3503
02:21:54,640 --> 02:21:56,080
something that needs to

3504
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:58,240
um be part of our code

3505
02:21:58,240 --> 02:21:59,520
how does this

3506
02:21:59,520 --> 02:22:00,560
happen

3507
02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:02,080
based on what your understanding is from

3508
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:03,840
other places that they have it so this

3509
02:22:03,840 --> 02:22:06,000
would more or less be just a discussion

3510
02:22:06,000 --> 02:22:08,080
item now to see if the interest from the

3511
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:09,920
council is to embrace this uh very much

3512
02:22:09,920 --> 02:22:12,960
it'd be a nominated a nomination so an

3513
02:22:12,960 --> 02:22:14,800
individual would come before us

3514
02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:17,200
either being self-identified or being

3515
02:22:17,200 --> 02:22:19,040
recommended by someone else

3516
02:22:19,040 --> 02:22:20,399
we would need to put in place a

3517
02:22:20,399 --> 02:22:22,560
committee again i think would be

3518
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:24,000
important to have an advocate from the

3519
02:22:24,000 --> 02:22:26,640
library to have an advocate from the

3520
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:29,439
school district to also include a

3521
02:22:29,439 --> 02:22:30,960
member of the community

3522
02:22:30,960 --> 02:22:32,720
and these individuals would kind of

3523
02:22:32,720 --> 02:22:34,319
monitor this role

3524
02:22:34,319 --> 02:22:36,160
but there could be various expectations

3525
02:22:36,160 --> 02:22:38,640
with uh how many public forums or events

3526
02:22:38,640 --> 02:22:40,479
that this individual was meant to host

3527
02:22:40,479 --> 02:22:42,399
uh how many uh readings they would need

3528
02:22:42,399 --> 02:22:44,720
to come before the council with uh so

3529
02:22:44,720 --> 02:22:46,560
again this being a new position we could

3530
02:22:46,560 --> 02:22:48,880
make it whatever we wanted to but again

3531
02:22:48,880 --> 02:22:50,720
this would be someone that could come to

3532
02:22:50,720 --> 02:22:53,600
our council meetings um introduce a poem

3533
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:56,640
based on a special item that comes comes

3534
02:22:56,640 --> 02:22:59,920
up uh or they can just be a quarterly

3535
02:22:59,920 --> 02:23:01,680
accordion but it honestly can be a

3536
02:23:01,680 --> 02:23:04,720
little bit like it

3537
02:23:04,720 --> 02:23:06,399
were you considering

3538
02:23:06,399 --> 02:23:07,280
that

3539
02:23:07,280 --> 02:23:09,120
this person would receive an honorarium

3540
02:23:09,120 --> 02:23:11,200
because there would be the expectations

3541
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:14,870
i'm familiar with this position

3542
02:23:14,880 --> 02:23:16,240
especially through the new york state

3543
02:23:16,240 --> 02:23:18,319
writers institute which is the

3544
02:23:18,319 --> 02:23:20,160
organization that names the poet

3545
02:23:20,160 --> 02:23:22,479
laureate and the writer

3546
02:23:22,479 --> 02:23:24,000
the state writer

3547
02:23:24,000 --> 02:23:26,000
and they have a big ceremony every year

3548
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:27,680
in which they do that

3549
02:23:27,680 --> 02:23:29,600
there is a lot of expectation in terms

3550
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:31,120
of when i think about

3551
02:23:31,120 --> 02:23:32,880
some of the previous united states

3552
02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:35,280
politics for example they either did you

3553
02:23:35,280 --> 02:23:37,200
know weekly poetry that would be in the

3554
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:39,280
newspaper or

3555
02:23:39,280 --> 02:23:41,040
certainly working

3556
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:42,160
with

3557
02:23:42,160 --> 02:23:43,359
youth

3558
02:23:43,359 --> 02:23:47,040
to try to increase literacy so

3559
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:50,000
it does have work that will come with it

3560
02:23:50,000 --> 02:23:51,359
and i was wondering

3561
02:23:51,359 --> 02:23:53,520
about an honorarium i'm also wondering

3562
02:23:53,520 --> 02:23:56,399
if you've spoken to the libraries or to

3563
02:23:56,399 --> 02:23:59,040
the library or to the school district to

3564
02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:01,680
assess their interest in in this is the

3565
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:03,040
school district

3566
02:24:03,040 --> 02:24:04,479
obviously the mission of the library

3567
02:24:04,479 --> 02:24:06,880
system is literacy um it's something

3568
02:24:06,880 --> 02:24:08,720
that's part of the both the adult

3569
02:24:08,720 --> 02:24:10,399
librarian as well as the youth services

3570
02:24:10,399 --> 02:24:13,120
librarian's job

3571
02:24:13,120 --> 02:24:15,200
but also within our school district

3572
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:16,640
there's a huge

3573
02:24:16,640 --> 02:24:17,760
literacy

3574
02:24:17,760 --> 02:24:18,640
uh

3575
02:24:18,640 --> 02:24:20,000
area

3576
02:24:20,000 --> 02:24:20,960
i just

3577
02:24:20,960 --> 02:24:22,800
blanked on the name of the woman that is

3578
02:24:22,800 --> 02:24:24,560
our literacy coordinator for the school

3579
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:25,680
district

3580
02:24:25,680 --> 02:24:27,920
so i think you know i just was wondering

3581
02:24:27,920 --> 02:24:29,600
if you'd had an opportunity to talk to

3582
02:24:29,600 --> 02:24:30,880
any of them

3583
02:24:30,880 --> 02:24:32,000
about this

3584
02:24:32,000 --> 02:24:34,560
so i'd say uh to your live point i think

3585
02:24:34,560 --> 02:24:36,000
it's important as a council that we're

3586
02:24:36,000 --> 02:24:37,439
all on the same page i never want to get

3587
02:24:37,439 --> 02:24:39,280
ahead of myself and also kind of speak

3588
02:24:39,280 --> 02:24:41,439
for a topic that the council hasn't been

3589
02:24:41,439 --> 02:24:42,640
able to

3590
02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:44,960
dialogue over so definitely this is the

3591
02:24:44,960 --> 02:24:46,479
first time i'm bringing it up as you

3592
02:24:46,479 --> 02:24:48,319
mentioned there are advocates that exist

3593
02:24:48,319 --> 02:24:50,479
in those other areas that are doing this

3594
02:24:50,479 --> 02:24:52,880
work so i think putting it in place

3595
02:24:52,880 --> 02:24:55,520
around an actual role

3596
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:57,520
similar to your previous point of view a

3597
02:24:57,520 --> 02:24:59,280
lot of expectations that's why i think

3598
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:01,280
it's important to have those

3599
02:25:01,280 --> 02:25:02,880
requirements of you're already doing

3600
02:25:02,880 --> 02:25:04,479
this work you're already posting and

3601
02:25:04,479 --> 02:25:06,720
being visible in public you already have

3602
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:08,720
a number of works already published you

3603
02:25:08,720 --> 02:25:10,399
want to kind of empower an individual

3604
02:25:10,399 --> 02:25:12,160
that's already in place this very much

3605
02:25:12,160 --> 02:25:14,160
is not a position for someone who is

3606
02:25:14,160 --> 02:25:16,160
thinking about becoming the poet you're

3607
02:25:16,160 --> 02:25:17,760
very much looking at someone that is

3608
02:25:17,760 --> 02:25:19,920
already a pillar in the community and

3609
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:21,920
using this as a title of his designation

3610
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,840
to assist them in their efforts i don't

3611
02:25:23,840 --> 02:25:25,040
know if you would recommend or

3612
02:25:25,040 --> 02:25:26,240
referencing a

3613
02:25:26,240 --> 02:25:29,600
moratorium with like compensation um

3614
02:25:29,600 --> 02:25:31,920
or an honorary with compensation uh i

3615
02:25:31,920 --> 02:25:33,359
think

3616
02:25:33,359 --> 02:25:35,200
mr ferrari whenever you talk about like

3617
02:25:35,200 --> 02:25:44,550
adding a budget line out of season it's

3618
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:46,800
i think it's important to make sure this

3619
02:25:46,800 --> 02:25:47,520
is

3620
02:25:47,520 --> 02:25:50,160
a position that that is well received by

3621
02:25:50,160 --> 02:25:52,160
the council in the city and then if it

3622
02:25:52,160 --> 02:25:54,560
is something that works fluently

3623
02:25:54,560 --> 02:25:55,840
potentially having that conversation but

3624
02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:57,520
i think at this point very much it would

3625
02:25:57,520 --> 02:26:01,520
be based on volunteer terrorism

3626
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:02,880
any

3627
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:04,399
questions or comments from other council

3628
02:26:04,399 --> 02:26:06,800
members

3629
02:26:06,800 --> 02:26:07,600
um

3630
02:26:07,600 --> 02:26:09,359
so i think it's i think it's a good idea

3631
02:26:09,359 --> 02:26:11,439
we actually have an official song and we

3632
02:26:11,439 --> 02:26:13,439
even actually got a new song from

3633
02:26:13,439 --> 02:26:15,200
like a few years ago then we had our

3634
02:26:15,200 --> 02:26:16,560
official song and then someone else did

3635
02:26:16,560 --> 02:26:18,240
a new song so we have an official song

3636
02:26:18,240 --> 02:26:22,000
so um i i think it's a good idea um and

3637
02:26:22,000 --> 02:26:24,240
yes no honorarium right now but i think

3638
02:26:24,240 --> 02:26:26,720
that um

3639
02:26:26,720 --> 02:26:28,399
just based on what you've said and also

3640
02:26:28,399 --> 02:26:30,319
what ms patrick has said that it does

3641
02:26:30,319 --> 02:26:32,160
require a lot of duties and so we should

3642
02:26:32,160 --> 02:26:34,240
consider putting something in the budget

3643
02:26:34,240 --> 02:26:35,439
and i don't know what that number would

3644
02:26:35,439 --> 02:26:37,920
look like if we um

3645
02:26:37,920 --> 02:26:40,319
if we move forward with this

3646
02:26:40,319 --> 02:26:42,000
um so

3647
02:26:42,000 --> 02:26:43,520
i i personally would say that it's

3648
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:45,200
something that we should you know look

3649
02:26:45,200 --> 02:26:46,080
forward

3650
02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:48,080
look into and then the entities that you

3651
02:26:48,080 --> 02:26:50,000
mentioned we would see how they would

3652
02:26:50,000 --> 02:26:52,319
once would be able to embrace that

3653
02:26:52,319 --> 02:26:54,640
is anyone yes mr williams so i'd say if

3654
02:26:54,640 --> 02:26:57,040
appropriate i can reach out

3655
02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:58,479
to those individuals who try to talk

3656
02:26:58,479 --> 02:27:01,120
offline about who is already doing this

3657
02:27:01,120 --> 02:27:02,640
work and then getting their opinions and

3658
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:03,760
having them come back to our next

3659
02:27:03,760 --> 02:27:05,680
meeting

3660
02:27:05,680 --> 02:27:07,280
did you have your hand up

3661
02:27:07,280 --> 02:27:09,680
mr toro oh no i didn't but

3662
02:27:09,680 --> 02:27:12,000
that's a good idea so you know as far as

3663
02:27:12,000 --> 02:27:13,680
carmel's point i'm not well versed in

3664
02:27:13,680 --> 02:27:16,240
this myself i think she is with her

3665
02:27:16,240 --> 02:27:18,080
history and her past work and of course

3666
02:27:18,080 --> 02:27:20,960
her husband um so if you want to you

3667
02:27:20,960 --> 02:27:22,560
know reach out to the school and the

3668
02:27:22,560 --> 02:27:25,600
library and then present it again um

3669
02:27:25,600 --> 02:27:27,680
you know

3670
02:27:27,680 --> 02:27:29,760
in the times that we're in i i think

3671
02:27:29,760 --> 02:27:31,439
it's nice to have a little peace and

3672
02:27:31,439 --> 02:27:33,439
tranquility but there's so many other

3673
02:27:33,439 --> 02:27:35,200
important things that we really need to

3674
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:36,800
focus on

3675
02:27:36,800 --> 02:27:38,560
as far as our city

3676
02:27:38,560 --> 02:27:40,640
but if you want to go ahead and do that

3677
02:27:40,640 --> 02:27:41,840
i

3678
02:27:41,840 --> 02:27:44,319
absolutely go ahead

3679
02:27:44,319 --> 02:27:45,439
yes

3680
02:27:45,439 --> 02:27:47,120
would you mind clarifying what you meant

3681
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:48,800
with that well just i mean you spoke

3682
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:50,479
earlier on the gun violence i mean you

3683
02:27:50,479 --> 02:27:52,160
know that's you know things that we

3684
02:27:52,160 --> 02:27:55,200
really need to concentrate on and um but

3685
02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:56,880
then again bringing some peace in with a

3686
02:27:56,880 --> 02:28:01,600
poet and you know making our meetings

3687
02:28:01,600 --> 02:28:02,640
you know

3688
02:28:02,640 --> 02:28:05,280
more peaceful and you know things so but

3689
02:28:05,280 --> 02:28:07,439
again you know that's you know if you

3690
02:28:07,439 --> 02:28:10,720
want to do it that's fine

3691
02:28:10,720 --> 02:28:12,560
mr williams i'm sorry

3692
02:28:12,560 --> 02:28:15,439
just for response i think

3693
02:28:15,439 --> 02:28:17,520
highlighting the component of addressing

3694
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:19,120
literacy within the community is

3695
02:28:19,120 --> 02:28:21,520
definitely a very strong um point

3696
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:23,760
we deal with uh

3697
02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:25,840
what are this true origin of mental

3698
02:28:25,840 --> 02:28:27,280
health and it definitely comes from

3699
02:28:27,280 --> 02:28:28,800
various

3700
02:28:28,800 --> 02:28:30,080
elements so there's no one-sided

3701
02:28:30,080 --> 02:28:31,920
approach and i think as a council we all

3702
02:28:31,920 --> 02:28:33,520
have our niches

3703
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:35,760
so i think allowing members to

3704
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:37,600
broad branch off and then address

3705
02:28:37,600 --> 02:28:39,439
multiple things but then collectively

3706
02:28:39,439 --> 02:28:41,280
work on a number of issues make sure

3707
02:28:41,280 --> 02:28:43,200
that we have a diverse approach

3708
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:44,640
so definitely this is not the only thing

3709
02:28:44,640 --> 02:28:47,280
that i'm considering or being aware of

3710
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:49,280
however i definitely understand the

3711
02:28:49,280 --> 02:28:51,600
power of reading and i think having an

3712
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:53,280
advocate that is already doing this work

3713
02:28:53,280 --> 02:28:55,040
and supporting them as a council will

3714
02:28:55,040 --> 02:28:55,760
have

3715
02:28:55,760 --> 02:28:58,160
monumentous benefits uh for for not only

3716
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:03,359
our youth but also households right yes been working on behalf of the

3717
02:29:03,359 --> 02:29:05,200
city with the library and the city

3718
02:29:05,200 --> 02:29:06,560
school district

3719
02:29:06,560 --> 02:29:08,399
and let me add to that that um you know

3720
02:29:08,399 --> 02:29:10,720
a lot of people are impacted by poetry

3721
02:29:10,720 --> 02:29:13,040
by songs and there's you know so it's

3722
02:29:13,040 --> 02:29:13,840
not

3723
02:29:13,840 --> 02:29:15,680
maybe for some it's really just another

3724
02:29:15,680 --> 02:29:17,200
form of art and right now we're seeing a

3725
02:29:17,200 --> 02:29:19,439
lot of public art in our city so i think

3726
02:29:19,439 --> 02:29:21,359
that as we embrace um different things

3727
02:29:21,359 --> 02:29:23,040
in different ways to reach different

3728
02:29:23,040 --> 02:29:24,720
people and communicate with people is

3729
02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:27,040
important so um and whatever ways that

3730
02:29:27,040 --> 02:29:30,720
we can do that and become a more united

3731
02:29:30,720 --> 02:29:32,560
group of people within the city within

3732
02:29:32,560 --> 02:29:34,560
the country and all of that so i i think

3733
02:29:34,560 --> 02:29:37,760
it's worthwhile exploring and i would

3734
02:29:37,760 --> 02:29:39,760
support it and if there's

3735
02:29:39,760 --> 02:29:42,160
is everyone pretty much in support of us

3736
02:29:42,160 --> 02:29:44,080
moving forward and looking into this

3737
02:29:44,080 --> 02:29:45,600
just want to gauge the interest before

3738
02:29:45,600 --> 02:29:48,319
we have mr williams do all this and then

3739
02:29:48,319 --> 02:29:49,520
come back and say

3740
02:29:49,520 --> 02:29:50,560
no

3741
02:29:50,560 --> 02:29:52,240
so

3742
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:54,000
please reach out to the agencies that

3743
02:29:54,000 --> 02:29:55,200
you mentioned

3744
02:29:55,200 --> 02:29:56,880
and get all the information needed and

3745
02:29:56,880 --> 02:29:58,240
bring it back to us and we'll move

3746
02:29:58,240 --> 02:29:59,280
forward

3747
02:29:59,280 --> 02:30:01,680
i think it's one thing we should do mr

3748
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:02,640
maybe

3749
02:30:02,640 --> 02:30:05,680
i really don't see it a big purpose for

3750
02:30:05,680 --> 02:30:08,479
this um i think maybe it'd be better for

3751
02:30:08,479 --> 02:30:10,080
the county level

3752
02:30:10,080 --> 02:30:12,080
with the dealing with the school

3753
02:30:12,080 --> 02:30:14,080
districts across the county as well as

3754
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:16,479
the library system

3755
02:30:16,479 --> 02:30:20,000
that might be the better arena for us

3756
02:30:20,000 --> 02:30:21,439
and i think

3757
02:30:21,439 --> 02:30:22,960
if we were to go that route that's

3758
02:30:22,960 --> 02:30:25,200
something i could support but

3759
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:27,760
certainly no honorarium as far as i'm

3760
02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:29,200
concerned

3761
02:30:29,200 --> 02:30:31,520
poetry does have an important place in

3762
02:30:31,520 --> 02:30:33,840
our culture in our society

3763
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:36,720
as does all artwork but

3764
02:30:36,720 --> 02:30:40,080
given everything that's going on and all

3765
02:30:40,080 --> 02:30:41,840
the issues that we have

3766
02:30:41,840 --> 02:30:43,280
um

3767
02:30:43,280 --> 02:30:45,840
just have a hard time getting behind us

3768
02:30:45,840 --> 02:30:47,680
when when we have to tackle some of

3769
02:30:47,680 --> 02:30:50,800
those issues um and i think again i

3770
02:30:50,800 --> 02:30:52,080
think it would be more appropriate at

3771
02:30:52,080 --> 02:30:54,000
the county level

3772
02:30:54,000 --> 02:30:55,840
uh well we have at least five people are

3773
02:30:55,840 --> 02:30:58,160
in sport a bit today so um

3774
02:30:58,160 --> 02:31:00,319
look forward and bring it back to us

3775
02:31:00,319 --> 02:31:01,680
thank you all right

3776
02:31:01,680 --> 02:31:03,280
thank you for taking time to look into

3777
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:04,000
that

3778
02:31:04,000 --> 02:31:07,439
all right the last two items are

3779
02:31:07,439 --> 02:31:10,479
for executive session for property sales

3780
02:31:10,479 --> 02:31:16,630
so it's actually three years

3781
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:19,600
okay no wait one second i'd like to so

3782
02:31:19,600 --> 02:31:20,640
the last two elections are going to be

3783
02:31:20,640 --> 02:31:23,040
executive so i need to recess

3784
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:24,880
um

3785
02:31:24,880 --> 02:31:26,560
development planning third item will be

3786
02:31:26,560 --> 02:31:28,319
executive sessions right as well but i

3787
02:31:28,319 --> 02:31:32,479
need to open claims so i need to recess

3788
02:31:32,479 --> 02:31:34,000
the development plan

3789
02:31:34,000 --> 02:31:35,359
all those in favor all right all right

3790
02:31:35,359 --> 02:31:36,720
we're recessed

3791
02:31:36,720 --> 02:31:38,560
somebody has a call i am going to do

3792
02:31:38,560 --> 02:31:40,479
that

3793
02:31:40,479 --> 02:31:46,150
i'd like to open flames

3794
02:31:46,160 --> 02:31:48,479
okay so

3795
02:31:48,479 --> 02:31:50,800
it comes down to you and i tried

3796
02:31:50,800 --> 02:31:51,600
so

3797
02:31:51,600 --> 02:31:53,280
we'd like to

3798
02:31:53,280 --> 02:31:56,000
go into executive session for planes

3799
02:31:56,000 --> 02:31:58,319
could i get a motion to do so

3800
02:31:58,319 --> 02:32:05,110
and i'll second it all in favor okay

3801
02:32:05,120 --> 02:32:08,840
public has to leave