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good morning, everybody. Welcome to the Water Surveasure Committee meeting. Thursday,

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June 9th. Start off this morning on a roll call. My name is Jeremy Spulder. And if I am

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at the corner, I'll town in Bedford. That's that one on my right. Scott Borsair. Richard Moore.

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I'm Paul Shacka. Becky Hebert. Mike Seals. Danielle Ivansik. Phil Griaszle.

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Everybody's all here today. It's good. Good to see everybody. Nice sunny day we have today.

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And the next item are Jenna's approved with minutes from last meeting from May 12, 2022. Did everybody get a chance to read all those minutes?

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It's a great emotional proof.

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Unless there's, yeah, that's questions anyway.

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Well, I was gonna, yeah, make that motion

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to approve the minutes from May 12, 2022.

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I spotted a couple of typos.

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Okay, sure.

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Yeah, right now.

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Sure, good.

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One.

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It's over again.

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All right.

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Page four, the second from last paragraph,

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halfway down, it says,

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Because the fund as approximately a 5.8 million net position should read the fund has, it's just missing the literary age.

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Okay, yep, yep, yep, yep, and the next page, there's a one sentence, the second paragraph, one sentence.

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Mr. DeShotco asks, where there are such severe losses in the last five years, I think it's why there are such.

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severe losses. Not where?

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That's it.

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We will make those changes. And then I'll do it for next meeting. Do you want

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me just to approve those just those little minutes, those changes?

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I'll just approve as amended. I'll just approve it as amended.

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Okay. Move it. It be approved as amended.

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Okay. Second. Second.

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Thank you.

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I approve.

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Okay.

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Call the baby.

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Hi.

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Sorry.

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That was my bag.

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Early in the morning, so we're.

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All right.

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And the next item on January is the committee.

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Share discussion.

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I think we ended up last last meeting, if I recall.

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About looking at the bylaws for the committee.

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I did do some research on that.

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And basically, there is no by-laws for the committee.

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There was discussion of how the committee got formed and started back in 2002.

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They had original members who were the town manager, director of public works, environmental

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coordinator, planning in two, I think it was two, two residents, obviously that's changed

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now.

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So now we get, I think we've got four resins, four resins in council, council alternative,

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including environmental coordinator.

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So I think what we should do is either create some bylaws, do we want to start creating

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a bylaws for this committee,

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or do we just have a motion to appoint a chair that's a non-employee

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of the town.

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So what you're doing. I'm just curious what our

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bylaws would say Jeremy. We have we could we could write

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up some bylaws and we have a couple meetings. We have a

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couple of these committees that we can probably take some

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bylaws from and go from there. Or do you want to do it at all?

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I'll be secretary and I have a vote. We let Becky do it as

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the chairman. Let's see off option, right? You don't write anything.

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Right, right. We have a chairman. We all vote who we have a chairman.

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Everyone knows everybody. I have four of those things going now.

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Worse is the garden club.

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That's my opinion, but but your opinion is is no by-laws. Is that okay?

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No, instead of by-laws have the chairman be identified

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and manage the committee.

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So we really don't have any binding thing.

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No.

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It's not like flowers, don't ask.

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So the whole point is was when I was saying I said

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that I don't think a chair person should be a town employee.

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I think it should be.

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Oh yeah, yeah.

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That's for a resident.

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Yeah, for a resident.

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And if you feel it should not be a town employee.

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There is our advantages in that, you know,

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you've got your, you're more in tune with all the issues as a horizon and could bring it to us, you know, as you, you know, feel you need to

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advice.

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I don't think we need bylaws. It's just a, you know, we're in advisory committee. So, I think you, you take that. We

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So does anybody disagree or agree with having a town employee as chairman?

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We should have a town employee as chairman.

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I really do because there's technical enough.

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The urban under 70 updated information that I

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Wouldn't know what the hell I was for example, and I would be probably next

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Rebecca your fill would be next in a line of knowledge-wise

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Restole way down below your level of knowledge

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Because outside I wouldn't know a thing. Yeah

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Okay, so I guess I'll leave it to you still as this committee feel that I should be still a chair for that at this time point in time, or is anybody want to post a chair?

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No, Jeremy was appointed to chair.

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I mean, there are advantages and disadvantages to having town staff be serving in the chair position.

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I think back to the discussion regarding the extension of the sewer district around BVI, it's helpful having a Bedford resident be leading that discussion and be.

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having staff serve more as a support role from a technical standpoint in the

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eyes of the residents and people who may be tuning in or following the board's

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actions. I know there are other land use boards.

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We're permit granting and we

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have bylaws but staff has a clear role and I think an advantage to having a

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bed for a resident would be, you know, that residency holds a lot of weight with other

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citizens in town and maybe an advantage to the council and the committee if staff is

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more of a technical advisory role.

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You'd still be on the committee?

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Correct.

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I'd still be on the committee.

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Correct.

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just not a chairman role. I stole it, obviously, probably help the chairman prepare the meeting and all that stuff and get the documents needed, but more of a supporting to the chair and the committee.

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So 1, 2, 3, not it.

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Yeah, before you go to the home, I'm sure you're going to be up the creek.

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All right, I guess we'll just skip that one, I guess it's going to be one, I guess I guess, right?

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I wanted this.

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Any of the four members that are residents, wish to be chair?

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I'm sorry.

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Do any of the four residents?

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Non-town council members?

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I mean, I don't know if it's right at the end of the line, but only at the end of the line.

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I can see Becky's point, you know, if there's a discussion that's, you know, like more sensitive that

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that they don't feel the town employee should be leading, I understand that.

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I guess for that reason I'd be willing to do it, but I'd really want a lot of input in terms of agenda items and stuff.

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Oh, yeah, absolutely.

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I mean, I couldn't, I think if you were to take on the chair role for this committee, your job really would be to sit

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at the head of the horseshoe here, and to leave the meetings, but I think that Jeremy's staff support, and he would still distribute documents to the committee and be the point person for communication from Department of Public Works, is that right?

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That's correct.

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Like when I was, before, before, prior, Paul honors step down, they could take it to prior

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to the meeting.

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We would have a call on a phone discussion and kind of lead them in the way of setting up

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the agenda and roll call and stuff like that and how to proceed further on during the meeting.

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So I would send them all the supporting documents as well, you know, prior to the meeting, have

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looked at pretty discussion before the meeting.

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so you want to be up there just throwing up here so okay okay so you would

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willing to take on that role starting the next meeting I nominate Richard

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Morris chair of the I'm just gonna say that there we go second all approved

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Okay, I'm going down the next item agenda with the sewer rate discussion.

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And the penicillac and the flat rates.

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I guess on the last meeting we voted in for option four with a discussion at looking

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at if we can disband the flat rate penicillac.

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I did call penicillac along with Amanda.

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and Amanda and I were on the phone with Penichuck for like an hour discussing how they charge

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and what they do charge, how they do. But every house in Greenfield Parkway, that area

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every house is metered. So we got that out of them. So every house is metered in Greenfield

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Parkway. So 2505 houses are metered. But the whole thing about that is that they could

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Instead of just a spreadsheet, and let us know what the flow is for each house.

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But the problem comes in as when the people have irrigation.

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And most of those houses, probably 80, 85% of those houses in Griefa Parkway have irrigation.

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I drove through there and most of the houses around 6 o'clock in the morning, the irrigation is running.

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So, and the whole problem is with that, is that the pentacharque, they don't supply,

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by detect meters and they will not read them.

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So that if the people with irrigation, so that would lead for us to hire somebody within

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the town to read detect meters and go around for 255 houses, or we can just stick with the

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flat rate over there, or there was another option that was brought to my attention to as

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Well, one city does, they do a, it's not like a flat rate fee, but it's a, it's a volumetric reading, but in this, in the summer time, the, yeah, basically the fourth quarter of the first, the last year in the first quarter of the next year, they take those readings because there's no irrigation running because it's winter time and the pro rate that there's summer rates for the second and third quarter.

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So it's kind of gets kind of yeah kind of it, but it's kind of gets kind of what's what's fair?

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What's not fair type thing? So yeah right now the residents are just by size in bedrooms and think so right it's

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They don't have meters. They don't have meters to do it. Manchester. Yeah, we charge volumetric through Manchester water works.

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Yeah, the house is the individual houses. Yeah, they do they have meters in individual houses. Correct. They're metered. Yes, correct.

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But the problem is that if you have irrigation, then a penicillac won't read the meters.

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So that's why I think sticking with the flat rate at this point in time, I think is a

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good option for sticking with that flat rate.

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Or treat it like a pump station, it's just another piece of infrastructure in our massive

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sewer system.

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that's the update on that.

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Any questions about that?

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If we had the actual volume that each house uses,

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and we know the rate that the treatment plant,

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Manchester charges, do we know, is there a delivery fee

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by Merrimack that could stand tacked onto that?

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Do you know?

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Well, I'm not aware of that, because the penicillac reads the meters, not a ton of

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marimac.

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So penicillac is a separate entity from marimac, say they read the meters.

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So they go drive route.

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But I mean, the, the, resonating how much sewerage waste goes to the treatment plant from the

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charge per volume, but the treatment plant charges, and that's what's being passed on to the rest of bedford residents.

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Right, for the, yeah.

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But I was just wondering, does Merrimack?

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Charge anything for. Merrimack charges the town of Bedford, a flat rate fee as well. Is it, is it, are they just passing on what Manchester's charging them early time? Because Merrimack has their own separate fees. The Manchester. So we, we pay Manchester, they waste my treatment facilities. They're percentage of the flow we send to them and then we also pay Manchester, Merrimack as well. They're treatment facilities as well. That percentage of our flow going into Merrimack as well. And then we. Merrimack has its own treatment facility. Yes.

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Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I miss any student did it about 60 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, it's all that stuff from Greenfield Parkway

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and that stuff here that goes through Pearson Real Pump Station, which pumps to Merrimack treatment plant.

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Okay. And then most of the stuff on South Road and all that stuff goes to Manchester.

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There's a flood from Merrimack. Merrimack is a flat rate fee. They charged the town of Merrimack at a flat rate fee.

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plus a percentage of our flow going in there for any upgrades or anything like that, for their treatment plan, and also we're in charge of 90% of the cost for any type of maintenance done to the Pearson Real Pumps Nation as well.

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That's probably the agreement between Bedford and Maramaque.

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So if you can remind me here, we're having this discussion because there's perceived inequity with the flat rate versus the people who are metered here or not.

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Yeah, well, he was saying if we could just charge everybody volumetric and just get rid of the flat rate fee, but where they don't, where Penetrek doesn't read the deck meters, that's the problem because when you ever get you along, obviously you're not using the sewer system, so it can't charge you for that.

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that. So because I was not a fan of option three where they take the third and

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first quarter and pro-rate it because that seems more equitable than a flat rate.

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Are there other, there are other residential homes that may have irrigation that

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are currently not benefiting from the direct meter or? I don't know, thanks to

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everything everybody because everybody who has a detect meter is basically

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through this for my Manchester water works. And Manchester will read that. Yes and they send us a

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printout and we go through that quarterly and there is people who are hooked to Manchester water

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works will receive water but not hooked to the sewer system as well. So they send us the whole

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spreadsheet and we go through that every quarter. The tradition, the logic since the 70s has been

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for the presidents.

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May I get the poll for the microphone?

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Pollock to the microphone.

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Yeah, just bring the microphone closer to you.

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Yeah, okay.

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Has been to take residences water readings.

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And the sewer is charged as a percentage of the water reading.

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Your correlation, they still use the water to water the lawn, right?

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Yes.

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So it would be in there.

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Yeah, but I'm not using the sewer system

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as not discharging in the sewer system.

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Yeah, that's what we're talking about.

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the users that go to the sewer system.

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So why we, we're not talking about users

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that have water, but no sewer, right?

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Oh, no.

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Well, okay.

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No.

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So it's still, it's still.

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Just the ones that hook the,

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you know, missing the water.

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Take the water reading at the house.

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Multiply it by 0.8.9.

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Whatever it is then.

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And you get your water bill,

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then you get your sewer bill.

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That's what we're doing now, isn't it?

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Yes, when the volumetric charges, I guess.

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Yeah, so this watering alone thing

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It's just going to show up in the water meter.

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Yeah, but if you have the deg-deck meter,

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it takes away, you have to subtract that.

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And there's some math involved.

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You have to subtract that reading from the reading

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from the...

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Why would we subtract it?

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Because you're watering the lawn.

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It's not used in the water.

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It's not used in the water.

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The factor comes in because you don't take all

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your water to the sewer.

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That's how you start out with the 8-10s or 9-10s factor.

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So it's already being...

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that concepts in the rate schedule.

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The irrigation uses.

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It's just like water you dump on the car or dump on the lawn.

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You know, it's you take water times point eight or nine,

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whatever you guys decided out.

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And that's the sewer bill.

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So you're saying, well, that's good for the gander.

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So now the coos is out there killing the lawn.

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And he's still using the water.

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That person still she still blues in the water.

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So there's no difference to me.

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You know, you got a factor for that and if they call up the complaint, I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said it that way.

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No, that's the way they do it.

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I hate to say I know this, but in a lot of towns and Massachusetts and New Hampshire.

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I don't see the water in the lawn any different than throwing a bucket of water on flowers, or even watering the flowers.

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They're doing that now and they're getting charged for it.

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Because most of your D-duck meters are hooked here outside speaking as well

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So if you're watered and you're doing your car on your lawn

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It's usually run into a D-duck meter, which is taken off here. You're made meter trash as well. We actually have those meters in place

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I missed that

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We have those D-duck meters in place. Yeah,

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there's so I want us to

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complain about it. Have I put a D-duck meter in the center of the bill?

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I think we put it off at least looking

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Following Mike's logic was already make a factor adjustment, and if we have to

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we should look at the spreadsheets over the past year and see what the

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consumptions are. I don't think you're going to see a huge amount of consumptions

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change. No. We spaced on the water bills that I see for them.

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They say they read

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early month, I don't. Quarter. Quarterly. But the water, the manchester water works, or

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Pemichuk is going to give you the total for every house for the year anyway. I didn't

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know about this deed. I honestly didn't. So there's two meters and someone has to read

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both. Yeah. And the one-up meters attached to the hose bib faucet. The outside faucet.

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If you're yeah most of them are yeah

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Yeah, both of them are most of them are most of the houses are yeah, yeah

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Okay, like all your businesses on sulfur road they have detect meters that the irrigate that lawn and stuff that with that as well

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My business they should be charged for like everyone else in the wingland

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This is all much more than meter

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Yeah.

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Manchester charges for the meter, yeah.

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They also charge for the meter.

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Can you get rid of it?

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They're probably charging more for the meter than the water.

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I don't know.

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And that's manchester's.

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I don't know.

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I'm just going by how fine it is.

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I don't know manchester's.

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Right.

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So I make a motion to see if Jeremy has had guru through a little quick analysis for the

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next meeting of how hard it would be to remove those things.

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or not use them. We could just not use them now. How much is the rent? Do you know?

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I don't know what it is. I don't really know what it's saying. Do you know what it's saying?

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About not across the board, across town eliminating all the deduct meters.

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Residential. Not for commercial or non-residential use. They usually end up with a meter reading.

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Sort of the houses, but I don't want to start by deducting that all these years.

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Yeah, because they're not putting that water into the system.

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So you know, you know me, you know, me, there's my wife when she throws the water on the flowers.

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There's a factor in that, and off, I guess, how many residences do you think are so worked?

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By the way, that sewage systems worth about 100 million today was based on Bowdoin Street

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and the one next to it, right?

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It was like two streets in town and we qualified because we had Walsh sewage going to the Miramaq.

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How many residents in all those apartments around yep?

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And never mind because that would be a small reading anyway. They don't have much long left

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Pack them in there, right?

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Well, I agree thought my motion. I don't know if anybody else wants to pursue it

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but

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It's not a big impact is there's not there's gonna be a lot of residences to the apartments, but those guys are probably not a

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a big lawn user or a non-suitable user.

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So they provide you with

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quarterly data of individual usage of their water meters?

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Man, I trusted it.

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Yep. So can you run an analysis now to tell us

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how much their water increases in the summer to see if this is even an issue?

322
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I guess we could. It's going to take a little bit, but just a quick look.

323
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Yeah.

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Two readings.

325
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Yeah, that's a good idea.

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Because we're having this debate about whether the flat rate or metered, and we're talking

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about irrigation being a big issue, but we don't know how much of an issue it is.

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Right.

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Right.

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But on Greenfield Parkway, where it affects the 255 houses over there, there's basically a

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rate just affects them basically because penicillic does not read the D-dug meters because

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they don't suddenly don't read them.

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So people don't even, those flat rate fees right now, they're running along without D-dug

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meters because they're not getting charged, they're not being charged, they're being charged

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a flat rate for sewer, but manchester's, that's why that's volumetric on manchester.

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So we get in both sides, you know, we get in from manchester, we get in from penicillic

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because of the water from two different entities, basically.

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And in the way they do the things

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is a little different from each of them.

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So that's why that, I don't know if I can run a analysis

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of a penicillac because there's nobody

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with D-duck meters on penicillac.

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You can still look at the volume of water

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that they've used each quarter.

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For main chested users.

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Can you do it for the other ones?

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Penicillac?

348
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No, the flat rate's no, I can't.

349
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Because you just saw the head of spreadsheet.

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No, they're especially the people who have meters and stuff like that.

351
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That's fine.

352
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But we don't have a spreadsheet of de-deck meters they have because they don't have it.

353
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Okay, all right.

354
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Just take the gross.

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Okay.

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Because it's me just different from the sum of them is from May.

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Just for example.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Okay.

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I got it.

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So you just want the meter readings from the summertime to the, to the, yeah.

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Yeah.

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If we can get out for a year, then we know kind of.

365
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Good thing, too.

366
00:25:48,210 --> 00:25:48,950
Well, we'll do it in court.

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Doing statistics, it's like,

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there are representative cohort, a big one.

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So, they're a reflection of our houses.

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There aren't the houses.

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They're built separately for everybody else.

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It is, it is.

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But the difference in the summer and some other month,

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I don't know which one,

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is probably mostly water, or color, or flowers.

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Right.

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So we'll just see what that difference is.

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but as you said, and you all won't see if it's significant, but I'm not getting out of it.

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I mean, BTW, you still have a horrendous fee for new connections, right?

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To counter them, not paying for the first part.

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Roy Steve, Crane, explain it to me once.

382
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What do you mean?

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The accessibility fee.

384
00:26:37,870 --> 00:26:39,710
Well, a lot of Matt wants to hook up.

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You weren't there when we had this and it's going to the river still, so you've got to pay this much upfront.

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I don't want small bills on the ground back.

387
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I just don't have that.

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And I believe it's a rendous, it's a big dollar.

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So the residences don't get that either,

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but we got extra money there as it were.

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I don't have to get partners to it.

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You know, apartments get that front end.

393
00:27:04,610 --> 00:27:05,050
Yeah, there is.

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Any new connection gets accessibility fee.

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And you calculate it on the,

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oh, you have a standard analysis of how much sure

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They should be helping pay for it.

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I don't know what it is, Massachusetts is one big developer, I'm rooting for a restaurant

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ticket to the Supreme Court and lost in Massachusetts.

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He didn't want to pay the front end thing, so there's everyone agrees with it, the heck

401
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with it.

402
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Okay, so I'll do that.

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I'll run the spreadsheet and see what the quarter is, the first, second, and the third and fourth

404
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quarter.

405
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I don't understand my months.

406
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Sure.

407
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Okay.

408
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Perfect.

409
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All right, I'll do that next next next for next week or you do all four quarters

410
00:27:41,590 --> 00:27:44,550
I mean you're gonna give you numbers, right?

411
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That's for four numbers. Yeah

412
00:27:50,710 --> 00:27:54,390
Could you also compare to what the flat rate is?

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00:27:54,590 --> 00:27:57,050
So we have a standard house in Greenfield farms

414
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I would love to know like is it a discounted if they're getting the flat rate or are they being charged equitably?

415
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:05,990
Because we did talk about this being an

416
00:28:05,990 --> 00:28:25,050
Right. Unequitable. Okay. Yeah, we may find that it's pretty much for all kind of flat. Right. We don't know until we see the detail. Right. Okay. I'll get that that. Okay. That next, uh, everybody else set with that. Any other questions on that? No. All right.

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Second, for your statistic, right?

418
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You don't need a second.

419
00:28:29,390 --> 00:28:31,270
No, we're not voting on any of the interested discussion.

420
00:28:32,070 --> 00:28:36,750
The next one is also a discussion too on agenda as number five is sewer mapping and

421
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existing and future sewer connections.

422
00:28:38,630 --> 00:28:41,450
So I'm going to get up and move around and move next to Mike Trank over there.

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And that way our new committee members know which part of our sewer system goes to Marama,

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which goes to Manchester and hopefully we can plan on that.

425
00:28:52,170 --> 00:28:53,830
Let's see it that we'll have to go over here.

426
00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:56,010
Let's see it, let's see it.

427
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Most of that work.

428
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There you go.

429
00:29:19,500 --> 00:29:22,720
All right, as you can see here, you can see the town line as it is right now.

430
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That's the town line.

431
00:29:25,980 --> 00:29:30,420
And I'm going to show you the existing sewer area that we have currently right now.

432
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I do want to thank Brandon Bolvia for helping me with mapping this out.

433
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This is our existing area right now that is sewed.

434
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:49,200
and all this stuff here on this side here and all this here all this goes to

435
00:29:49,700 --> 00:29:55,600
goes to Manchester let's see if I can pull it up over here at the end of

436
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:59,200
station we're at the end over here and this it goes across the river right over

437
00:29:59,200 --> 00:29:59,520
right here.

438
00:30:00,020 --> 00:30:05,160
patient row is here. It goes across over here to Manchester, wastewater treatment plant.

439
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:11,880
And in this section over here, we're talking about the Greenfield Parkway area.

440
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:25,640
This all goes over here to Pearson Road. Pumps, there's a pump station right over here. And that gets all pumped up to the Marimack wastewater treatment plant.

441
00:30:29,340 --> 00:30:38,080
For the town of Marimack or Penicic? Penicic water services them. Yeah, he has to pass the bill on. Yeah. And it's surcharge.

442
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and his the the future as sewer area that's was in a master plan from from

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Bedford from the last time we did a master plan. And as you see in green this

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area up here that's Rundland Hill and all that stuff all white and all white

445
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down the street and point street stuff. We're looking at doing something over

446
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the air.

447
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In the future use, same thing with the air down to one on one. We do have some

448
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dry lines on one on one for future use. And this area over here is called the Sandy

449
00:31:21,890 --> 00:31:28,150
Palm Parkway Sevens Pond area. This is this is probably the next on our radar for the

450
00:31:28,150 --> 00:31:32,650
Excuse me. Yeah, we're the dry sewers. You get your radar. Oh, right here. Red on one on one

451
00:31:33,210 --> 00:31:39,990
Just a couple of dry sewers from down on Wallace road and then across national road is some dry sewer lines when the redid one on one

452
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We had him put some dry lines in that way for futures

453
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Wallace West

454
00:31:46,850 --> 00:31:50,590
Yeah, Wallace heading towards Merrimat. Yes, so we sell

455
00:31:52,130 --> 00:31:57,510
Yeah, there's a dry line across one and one from there and then one across the national road.

456
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Usually you just put the crossing in the jacking the tunnel.

457
00:32:01,390 --> 00:32:01,510
Yes.

458
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Let them build their highway.

459
00:32:03,090 --> 00:32:03,670
Is that what we did?

460
00:32:04,030 --> 00:32:04,510
It's underneath the 101.

461
00:32:04,690 --> 00:32:05,490
Yeah, it's sleeve them in.

462
00:32:05,530 --> 00:32:05,630
Yep.

463
00:32:06,630 --> 00:32:07,950
There's sleeves and sewer.

464
00:32:08,330 --> 00:32:08,430
Yeah.

465
00:32:09,330 --> 00:32:15,150
Jeremy, can the map be updated to show some of the more sewer hookups?

466
00:32:15,410 --> 00:32:17,030
Like I know of the Bedford Village shops.

467
00:32:18,450 --> 00:32:22,410
That's one of the things that Brian and I were supposed to be working on the different

468
00:32:22,410 --> 00:32:22,890
fillet shops.

469
00:32:23,290 --> 00:32:27,990
You can see when I pump up the, when I put up this, the sewer piping and the manholes,

470
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:29,790
you'll see that it's in the green area.

471
00:32:29,810 --> 00:32:31,150
We just haven't shaded that in yet.

472
00:32:32,270 --> 00:32:34,730
The assisted living facility on all of that.

473
00:32:34,730 --> 00:32:36,990
Yeah, and then the future bowling as well.

474
00:32:38,350 --> 00:32:40,230
So that has to be on there as well.

475
00:32:40,670 --> 00:32:41,930
So, but

476
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,600
the area I want to talk about is where we get seven spawn is Sandy Palm Parkway.

477
00:32:48,600 --> 00:33:00,000
So that is next on our radar because the pond is, what was it like for PH?

478
00:33:01,400 --> 00:33:11,400
It's a total daily maximum limit in a 10-deal that's in place, actually that's for

479
00:33:11,400 --> 00:33:20,580
phosphorus. And then it's also on the state's water quality, impaired water for pH.

480
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:27,300
Yep, so right now we're actually looking at, we get, Mike is working on, we got a couple

481
00:33:27,300 --> 00:33:30,840
of different options, two or three options of how to run sewer through here.

482
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:38,780
And we are in a midst of applying for a grant and we did apply for the grant, a federal grant.

483
00:33:40,060 --> 00:33:48,900
There was an application that was submitted for, I used to call it Stag Grant State and

484
00:33:48,900 --> 00:33:50,180
Tribal Assistance Grants.

485
00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:55,320
Now they call it, congressionally, directed spending request.

486
00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:02,780
That went through Senator Sheehan's office, so the funding was requested and that would be

487
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:04,060
pretty much a grant.

488
00:34:04,580 --> 00:34:04,760
I'm sorry.

489
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,500
from the state or the federal government.

490
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:11,640
That would be a federal, we also submitted a pre-application

491
00:34:11,640 --> 00:34:15,680
to the Hampshire DES for the clean water state

492
00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:16,920
revolving fund loan.

493
00:34:18,280 --> 00:34:20,540
And through the loan program, there's going

494
00:34:20,540 --> 00:34:25,060
to be, hey, call it, funny, but subsidies,

495
00:34:25,900 --> 00:34:28,180
and forgiveness of principle in the loan

496
00:34:28,180 --> 00:34:31,600
because of the infrastructure funding bill

497
00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,040
that passed in Congress.

498
00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:46,460
So I may be going down a rabbit hole here. Is this green area established based on the watershed that's draining into Stebans pond? Or is it based on how you would lay the sewer pipes and who would be effective?

499
00:34:47,340 --> 00:34:49,060
Primarily it'sography, yes.

500
00:34:54,740 --> 00:34:59,580
So it could conceivably expand based on how you're planning to lay out the pipes?

501
00:35:02,380 --> 00:35:02,940
Possibly.

502
00:35:14,050 --> 00:35:16,250
Okay, then I'll add other questions.

503
00:35:16,250 --> 00:35:25,710
So, just to review it, the purpose of the green around sevens pond is to protect sevens pond.

504
00:35:27,630 --> 00:35:36,970
And the purpose of the green along 101 is released for, because it may be developed commercially.

505
00:35:37,470 --> 00:35:46,590
and you want to meet that need, what could you explain the purpose for the large green area and then in that corner?

506
00:35:47,210 --> 00:35:47,430
This here?

507
00:35:47,910 --> 00:35:48,130
Yeah.

508
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:55,850
Yeah, this is prior to my time, but this area up here is a lot of residential housing.

509
00:35:56,670 --> 00:35:59,850
And same thing with down here in CB Street in the pine, what they call the pines.

510
00:36:00,490 --> 00:36:06,150
There's always options here to, because there's existing sewer here on constant street and existence.

511
00:36:06,150 --> 00:36:08,170
since we're here, off of southward road,

512
00:36:08,430 --> 00:36:09,530
and halfway up Palimino Lane.

513
00:36:10,090 --> 00:36:12,470
So it's always that chance of these residents

514
00:36:12,830 --> 00:36:15,870
going to come to the town and our commercial developer

515
00:36:15,870 --> 00:36:17,530
comes in and starts developing the town.

516
00:36:17,830 --> 00:36:19,630
There's always an option to expand that area

517
00:36:20,270 --> 00:36:23,790
in these areas for residential and commercial as well.

518
00:36:24,950 --> 00:36:28,130
That was part of, from one at my understanding was,

519
00:36:28,410 --> 00:36:32,530
when we went and upgraded the flow into Manchester,

520
00:36:32,530 --> 00:36:39,570
register. These were on another radar for expansion for flow going into Manchester.

521
00:36:39,990 --> 00:36:43,590
That report manages to call these future flows in writing.

522
00:36:44,890 --> 00:36:45,230
What was that?

523
00:36:45,770 --> 00:36:49,150
The future flows in sevenths pond in the center report to Manchester.

524
00:36:49,610 --> 00:36:51,770
You call them future flows, right?

525
00:36:52,170 --> 00:36:54,990
Future. Yeah, possible future.

526
00:36:55,690 --> 00:36:59,470
That's saying, well, but it's just in the area that we all looked at.

527
00:36:59,470 --> 00:37:03,630
That is possible for for for for municipal sewer

528
00:37:05,030 --> 00:37:10,450
The market basket is connected to sewer right? Yes, that has to be that has been shaded as well

529
00:37:10,930 --> 00:37:15,910
Yeah, there's a lot of stuff that this we didn't shade in all the way, but we did this at the

530
00:37:16,630 --> 00:37:20,170
How did the market basket get attached? It looks like it's so far from

531
00:37:21,070 --> 00:37:28,970
Service area. Yeah, they have their own again. It's a pump station and it's a long force me. It's a 5,000 foot long force

532
00:37:28,970 --> 00:37:33,510
What do they attach to over where the copper door is?

533
00:37:33,730 --> 00:37:39,830
Yeah, it's a forceman that runs down, 114 comes down around the corner to 101.

534
00:37:40,350 --> 00:37:43,730
And they hold right over, right where that tip of 101 is, and the discharge is right in there.

535
00:37:43,930 --> 00:37:45,550
And it flows into the Constitution of pump station.

536
00:37:45,890 --> 00:37:49,030
So from there, pumps, then it's gravity to the Constitution of pump station.

537
00:37:49,370 --> 00:37:50,950
They're the jacking, of course, 101.

538
00:37:51,750 --> 00:37:53,570
And it's a pride to get across 101.

539
00:37:53,990 --> 00:37:55,150
There's jacking here for that.

540
00:37:55,870 --> 00:37:57,290
Right where it's in a section.

541
00:37:57,290 --> 00:38:04,750
Directional drill which once they get up I thought the jacking was down by copper door across the road

542
00:38:05,130 --> 00:38:10,430
Take it to the other side of one on one. Yes. Yeah, that's correct. It's on it's on

543
00:38:10,910 --> 00:38:14,350
That's at the east side over here. It comes on the east side and it did it

544
00:38:14,350 --> 00:38:15,010
They

545
00:38:15,810 --> 00:38:20,850
Jacked across one 14 and sleeved it and then that's then it came on to the side of the road and I went to the side and east side

546
00:38:21,230 --> 00:38:22,970
Let's see if I can show you the pipes and

547
00:38:23,590 --> 00:38:27,270
and memorial school must be connected to just thinking.

548
00:38:27,770 --> 00:38:33,090
No, but it's not current connected, but there is a gate valve there and stuff like that.

549
00:38:33,210 --> 00:38:37,290
So they can be connected as you can see, you can kind of see it right now.

550
00:38:37,450 --> 00:38:44,990
I've kind of green, but as you can see the green line right here, this comes across because

551
00:38:44,990 --> 00:38:49,850
one, 14 right here, and then this comes across because I need the bridge and keeps going down here.

552
00:38:49,850 --> 00:38:51,150
and it discharges into here.

553
00:38:52,250 --> 00:38:53,970
See if we can get the manholes on there too.

554
00:38:54,410 --> 00:38:55,830
And you said that's privately maintained?

555
00:38:56,850 --> 00:38:59,390
I believe it is a private line, the force main.

556
00:38:59,690 --> 00:39:00,530
Yeah, it's a private.

557
00:39:02,910 --> 00:39:07,790
You can see it discharges right into this manhole right here,

558
00:39:10,820 --> 00:39:13,200
and it comes down, and then I force main,

559
00:39:13,500 --> 00:39:15,360
and I constitute the pump stations right here,

560
00:39:15,820 --> 00:39:18,560
and then I force main comes down one-on-one here,

561
00:39:19,260 --> 00:39:21,220
and it comes across one-on-one and discharges

562
00:39:21,220 --> 00:39:22,540
onto a kilton road area.

563
00:39:22,540 --> 00:39:22,660
Yeah.

564
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:32,880
You see when you put the mail halls in there, it's kind of messed up, but yeah, this is

565
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,100
the current system as it is as we have it right now.

566
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:37,200
Chairman, can I make a suggestion?

567
00:39:37,640 --> 00:39:37,780
Sure.

568
00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:43,240
I mean, let's go back up to the north or west there.

569
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:43,820
Mm-hmm.

570
00:39:46,230 --> 00:39:46,750
This area here?

571
00:39:47,090 --> 00:39:47,190
No.

572
00:39:47,370 --> 00:39:47,490
Yeah.

573
00:39:47,650 --> 00:39:57,070
We're covering areas that are both wasteland underneath the PUC power lines as large areas

574
00:39:57,070 --> 00:40:05,330
cemetery in the greens, which I think is misleading on the sides of the sites, but perhaps

575
00:40:06,510 --> 00:40:13,630
where actual sewer would be, could be later used might be more meaningful to the, in

576
00:40:13,630 --> 00:40:16,430
general, so people a better concept toward it is.

577
00:40:16,830 --> 00:40:22,250
It may also be helpful to say what the, because right now you've got this all-coloured as

578
00:40:22,250 --> 00:40:27,050
future sewer area it might be helpful to put in a slightly different shade for

579
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:35,290
priority. Okay we can do that yeah that's a good idea so yeah so maybe they

580
00:40:35,290 --> 00:40:40,110
like a so for example like that sandy park area shade is the different color

581
00:40:40,810 --> 00:40:44,750
okay because it's more because it's impaired waterway that's a good idea I can do

582
00:40:44,750 --> 00:40:51,270
that yeah would you envision the camps along Camp Road connecting how would

583
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:56,270
you get it there. Yeah, I know. I just looking at the shaded area and that's on

584
00:40:56,270 --> 00:41:01,770
this side, isn't it? Yeah, you've got all that kind of all that area there and

585
00:41:01,770 --> 00:41:05,990
down towards the end of the road. Yeah, it's just that it's just that this is

586
00:41:05,990 --> 00:41:10,070
such a high, so much higher over here than down over here too. Yeah, I'm on a

587
00:41:10,070 --> 00:41:15,930
whole area around the various parts of the car. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously, we can

588
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:16,590
can take a look at?

589
00:41:18,910 --> 00:41:22,750
Nothing's, you know, if road service can't

590
00:41:22,750 --> 00:41:25,610
balance the Girl Scouts team, is that going

591
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:28,860
to make it

592
00:41:28,860 --> 00:41:32,760
overall before I have to leave? When you look at things

593
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:35,780
like this, you can either go something and have the ground

594
00:41:35,780 --> 00:41:41,640
treated or sent into the river and work on both. And the

595
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,940
preference would be to send it to septic because the land

596
00:41:44,940 --> 00:41:47,720
is a far better treatment. And we already know we got

597
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:54,000
this charge is going to to the Merrimack and see a cell rainfall. So that's the context.

598
00:41:54,240 --> 00:41:59,060
It's not like, ooh, something is bad. Let's get it over. It's kind of the opposite of that.

599
00:41:59,900 --> 00:42:04,740
So it's like, it used to, they still call it needs analysis. I said my piece.

600
00:42:09,500 --> 00:42:12,600
Then in here this little area you can see where the pipes come underneath.

601
00:42:14,060 --> 00:42:18,120
This is the station, the siphon station. And then it goes to the Manchester.

602
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:26,240
there. And then I'll, where's the marijuana treatment? I trade rate rate here, right at the end

603
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:32,460
of right here. No, not mention the one marijuana. Maramack, that's all the way on this. I don't think

604
00:42:32,460 --> 00:42:38,360
it's on it. I can't buy it. Yeah, buy by wiser. Yeah, all right, self road. Thank you. Yeah.

605
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:44,040
And right

606
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:50,600
here, this is all low pressure lines all through here. And then at the end right here, this manhole

607
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:54,100
right here and it goes into Merimax and that's where all that little pressure

608
00:42:54,100 --> 00:42:58,940
goes dumps into that that manhole right there and then right here there's a Merimax

609
00:42:58,940 --> 00:43:08,940
pump stations right here. I didn't put it on IGS because it's not our map so that's

610
00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,520
basically the overall system itself. I always say I got to shade this area in here

611
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:14,040
too as well.

612
00:43:16,260 --> 00:43:19,680
That's the overall area of the sewer system itself.

613
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:23,200
Anybody have any

614
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:26,700
questions? On that, everybody's together with that?

615
00:43:30,780 --> 00:43:32,460
The town share, this is probably the

616
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:38,060
bonds, paid off the original 1980 bond, so the town share, it's not the sewer

617
00:43:38,060 --> 00:43:44,180
person, but it is not money. What do you charge on the property tax? Something that

618
00:43:44,180 --> 00:43:51,740
flops over, to non-seward, not people? As we paid off all the local share, I assume

619
00:43:51,740 --> 00:43:55,020
a while ago that we paid in 1981, 82.

620
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,020
Yeah, but then we bought extra flow from there.

621
00:43:58,020 --> 00:43:58,640
Sure, yeah.

622
00:43:58,640 --> 00:44:01,340
But that's not for the people without on the sewer.

623
00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,120
Like me.

624
00:44:02,780 --> 00:44:02,900
Right.

625
00:44:03,240 --> 00:44:06,540
So there's all the local costs really went away then.

626
00:44:07,540 --> 00:44:10,560
When you get a charge for Manchester, it goes up.

627
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:13,540
I assume it just gets fed into the music charge system.

628
00:44:14,260 --> 00:44:16,960
You don't feel me out of the freedom way.

629
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:19,700
No, they build us and in debt services.

630
00:44:20,140 --> 00:44:20,360
Yeah.

631
00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:21,720
Yeah, so then we tried that.

632
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:24,000
Coastal user tries for people over, yeah.

633
00:44:24,740 --> 00:44:28,480
So still, the non-suword resident is this point paying,

634
00:44:28,600 --> 00:44:31,140
almost paid nothing, actually paid nothing anyway,

635
00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:33,600
because the users agreed to pick that sheet up.

636
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:35,960
But yeah, we're still zero like that.

637
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,920
For non-suword residential, and it's amazing.

638
00:44:56,100 --> 00:44:58,760
Next, I'm going to enter as the next meeting date.

639
00:45:00,750 --> 00:45:03,710
Which would be July

640
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,080
14th, is that correct?

641
00:45:11,980 --> 00:45:15,340
What is it July? July 14th.

642
00:45:25,780 --> 00:45:30,800
Right, subject to change. If anything else comes up, or whatever. But, gee,

643
00:45:35,400 --> 00:45:48,720
that was attacking me. All right. Do I have a motion to adjourn meeting? I have a question. I'll show her. Our formal name is water and sewer.

644
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:57,000
advisory. Yes. I know we have a lot of pending water line proposals. Do we ever discuss that

645
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:02,900
on this commission? It's never really been brought to my attention. So,

646
00:46:05,810 --> 00:46:11,310
Jonathan, I think we should be aware of or give input on.

647
00:46:14,130 --> 00:46:14,730
Yeah,

648
00:46:16,770 --> 00:46:18,630
we have talked about water extensions.

649
00:46:18,630 --> 00:46:22,810
We've got a couple of coming, I'm sure you don't know where it is.

650
00:46:25,700 --> 00:46:27,620
I don't think Jess prepared to answer that question.

651
00:46:27,620 --> 00:46:29,480
I have a little bit of a question for her in my name.

652
00:46:30,360 --> 00:46:31,040
I want to jump that.

653
00:46:32,700 --> 00:46:40,320
I'm just asking, I'm not sure that many of us don't want to think about the perhaps proposed

654
00:46:40,320 --> 00:46:44,680
water extensions and proposals that we've put into the.

655
00:46:44,680 --> 00:47:10,240
Sure, the PFAS-related one will extend municipal water from Bell Hill Road down to and through the primary facility located where Homers Market once was and actually go to Wallace Road for a future connection along 101 if that comes through fruition.

656
00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:16,220
but there is funding that was a grant that the town applied for and it's we

657
00:47:16,220 --> 00:47:20,200
should be we've got a few more steps to complete on that but we should be

658
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:25,160
receiving funds to begin that project either late this year or next year.

659
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:33,140
Other waterline extensions I'm drawing a blank right now but that's the big one.

660
00:47:34,860 --> 00:47:40,220
May I just add while I'm here, you talked about equity as far as sewer rates.

661
00:47:40,860 --> 00:47:46,180
So there's a lot of discussion about irrigation and that's valid.

662
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:52,740
But the flat fee also, if you really want equity, you should be really charging for the

663
00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:55,160
amount of water that's being purchased.

664
00:47:55,160 --> 00:48:07,320
and let the owner, if they want irrigation, pay the cost for the deduct meter and any transaction cost the town may have to get there.

665
00:48:07,980 --> 00:48:15,220
The flat rate fee, but I don't think we're really considering, is one residence may have eight people and another one may have two.

666
00:48:15,580 --> 00:48:22,100
So that's year round. So if you really want equity, I think that's the methodology you should move forward with.

667
00:48:22,500 --> 00:48:30,920
I think, you know, if someone mentioned the word rabbit hole, I think what I heard, it was a rabbit hole, and I think if you really want equity, and that's what Manchester does.

668
00:48:31,780 --> 00:48:34,820
That's equitable. So that's just me. Anything else?

669
00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,680
Good point. Thank you. I brought that plan.

670
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:42,040
Oh, do you have pretty maps like this for the water system?

671
00:48:42,620 --> 00:48:45,620
I don't, but the city of Manchester does, and I think they're loaded on.

672
00:48:45,620 --> 00:48:48,380
Yeah, yeah, any penny check is also loaded on as well.

673
00:48:48,580 --> 00:48:49,880
Yeah, and that GIS, the time GIS.

674
00:48:50,120 --> 00:48:50,300
Yeah.

675
00:48:50,460 --> 00:48:53,420
Do we have time in the next meeting to get to look at those pretty maps?

676
00:48:54,100 --> 00:48:55,260
I could do that, yeah.

677
00:48:55,780 --> 00:48:56,020
Yeah.

678
00:48:56,660 --> 00:48:57,120
Peace cake.

679
00:48:57,820 --> 00:49:01,940
I like technical terms like pretty maps, but yeah, we understood that.

680
00:49:03,700 --> 00:49:13,060
Just like to make a thing, should be noted that Jeff and the DPW and Jeremy have been

681
00:49:13,060 --> 00:49:19,220
very aggressive and grant money and when they state cut some of it in the 90s, we had

682
00:49:19,220 --> 00:49:26,340
already disconnected and this other thing was there. So a lot of this $100 million program

683
00:49:26,340 --> 00:49:36,140
is really due to the DPW's aggressive, acquiring greens. I'm sorry, very good.

684
00:49:36,140 --> 00:49:37,240
Okay,

685
00:49:41,080 --> 00:49:43,520
thanks. Thanks Jeff. Thanks Jeff.

686
00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:47,900
Any other comments or questions or

687
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,820
To go we can motion there was during the meeting. I'm a second

688
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:59,820
I'll second all in favor. Hi. Hi. He's adjourned