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All right, thank you for

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joining us.

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All right, thank you.

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And then there's public comments on those session items.

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Are there any?

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I don't see any more here.

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But that's a public comment.

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Are there any public comments on?

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I'm sorry.

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The Board will convene in closed session.

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The item two has more fully described on the agenda

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Conference with the county's labor negotiators.

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So you have an open session around ten o'clock.

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I'm going to

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tell you, I'm going to tell you what's going on.

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May be better to let them do it, period. If you have her file, you want me to send a link.

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I could try to send a link.

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Okay, I just sent it. Period. And I'm on the

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Zoom period.

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Good morning, everyone.

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Good morning. Good morning. Good morning, board of fueller state. Happy for state of summer.

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And I remember three on our agenda as a pledge for redress summer, September.

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Thank you.

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Please stand and join me in

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selecting the lighting

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remation.

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Ready?

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Began.

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I'd like to introduce

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to the side of the

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I-to-state

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of America.

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And I see a

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three public,

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from which it stands.

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Foundation.

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And there are

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individuals with

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liberty and justice strong.

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Look,

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we have any

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favorite read on

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social media.

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There is no action

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taken in close session,

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quite a bit for this.

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Yeah.

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I don't know if we're five is public comment.

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Does anyone have comments or high notes that are not on our agenda?

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Good morning.

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Laura Lynn from Independence.

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And I want to read Psalm 33 as a declaration of prayer over this meeting.

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It's time to sing and shout for joy.

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Go ahead.

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All you redeem the ones do it.

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Praise him with all you have.

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For praise looks lovely on the lips of God's devoted lovers.

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Play the guitar as you lift your praise loaded with things

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giving, seeing and make joyous music with all you've got inside, compose new melodies that

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release new praises to the Lord. Play his own praises on instruments with the anointing

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and skill he gives you. Seeing and shout with passion, make a spectacular sound of joy. For

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God's word is something to sing about. He is true to his promises, his word can be trusted,

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and everything he does is reliable and right. The Lord loves seeing justice on the earth anywhere

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everywhere you can find his faithful and failing love. All he had to do with steep by his spirit

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wind command and God created the heavenlies filled with galaxies and stars. The vast cosmos he

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wonderfully made, his voice scooped out the seas, the ocean depths he poured into vast reservoirs.

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With breathtaking wonder, let everyone worship Yahweh, this awe-inspiring creator. He breathed words

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and world to rebirth. Let there be, and there it was, springing forth the moment he spoke.

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No sooner said than done, with his breath he scatters the schemes of nation to oppose him.

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They will never succeed. His destiny plan for the earth stands sure. His forever plan remains in place,

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and will never fail. Blessed and prosperous is the nation who has God as their Lord.

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They will be the people he has chosen for his own. The Lord looks over us from where he rules

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the heaven, gazing into every heart from his lofty dwelling place. He observes all the peoples of the earth.

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The creator of our hearts considers and examines everything we do. Even if a king had the best

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equipped army, it would never be enough to save him. Even if the best warrior went to battle,

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he could not be saved simply by his strength alone. Human strength and the weapons of man

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are false hopes of victory. They may seem mighty, but they will always disappoint. The eyes of

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Lord or upon even the weakest worshipers who love Him.

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Those who wait and hope and expectation

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for the strong, steady love of God,

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God will deliver them from death.

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Even the certain deaths of famine with no one to help.

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The Lord alone is our radiant hope

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and we trust Him with all our hearts.

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His wraparound presence will strengthen us

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as we trust.

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We rejoice with an uncontained joy flowing from Yahweh.

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Let your love and steadfast kindness

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overshadow us today continually, Lloyd, for we trust and we wait upon you. And I just thank

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God for the answer of this prayer and this declaration for this time and Jesus name again.

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Thank you. Thank you. The other public comments on the audience.

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Thank you. Do we have any questions?

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I'm not standing in the structure.

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Okay.

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Thank you.

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I'll move on.

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I don't have a response.

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I need to go to the board.

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Shoulder and the budget has to go to the board.

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I'm not going to let all of the stand up.

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Let's see.

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I don't have the.

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7.

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Hey, Dan.

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Yes, this is Matt.

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I just want to make sure we can know that I'm not there.

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I did.

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I mean, why I'm not there.

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I did, I tested positive yesterday for COVID and RCRC.

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And I think some people there came down ill afterwards.

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So I'm kind of assuming that might be where I got it.

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But I don't feel too bad, but I'll be stand over a few days.

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So thank you.

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That is it.

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Yeah, that is true.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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Look almost like normal.

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You're a little smaller, but you look almost cool.

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And there you go.

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And item number seven.

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An introduction.

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Jennifer Rozier will fill in for Matt Pinkley.

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And we'll introduce her from the link.

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It's a representative.

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That's another hash on the short site.

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Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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And welcome to Brenda.

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I actually have a little QT.

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So anyway, but I just want to welcome.

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So everybody has a chance and opportunity to meet Brenda Link. She's our new superintendent.

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That comes in our next round.

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And it has a impressive career I got to meet with her when she was acting superintendent earlier in the year.

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And what a treat to two remains in our with Brenda.

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Her vast knowledge and depth of understanding of the Park Service mission was inspiring.

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But I just wanted to note that she's come from come to us as the Director of Public Affairs Division at the Gateway National Recreation Area in New York, New Jersey.

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I mean, if that isn't a change, I don't know if it's a change.

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So, Brenda, go ahead and take it forward.

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So, please, I haven't joined us.

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Thanks, Jen.

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I'm not.

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You're wherever you are.

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You're going to go ahead of me.

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Would we have been to her?

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You have to talk to them in my phone.

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And I, I think it's janitor in the winter.

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And I invite everyone to come to this at Man's Nar.

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I'd be happy to show you around and keep following me.

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You're free to come by and I'm just some interesting things about.

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That's not right now. We are going to be ramping up to seven days a week. We were seven days a week before pandemic. And so I'm just going to accommodate a lot of summer travelers. I'm sure you know about that.

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we're stormed, but we lost 163 trees over at Manzanar, and that was devastating for us.

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We had a team from Neil Semidey who came and helped us, you know, tidy everything up.

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But it was a big loss for us. The other thing is I think we want to

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shout out to Eric Richard. I am concerned about fire prevention over at our site.

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and so he did provide some ideas. We will have a fire assessment on site soon. It's just that with

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a fire season, everything is just the fast removal being right, just it will powerful and so it's

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very important that we keep advancing. Other than that, I will keep you guys all updated with all the

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happenings. That men's not I'm very happy to be here. It is a big change from New York New Jersey.

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However, I am very honored and I'm happy to be here in the Olin Valley.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Thank you

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very much.

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We're moving on to our consent items.

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Item numbers.

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Through 16, we are holding on for child.

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And that will go first under the Department of Health.

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Second.

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Any other.

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If there are none, I will move to approve.

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I'll go ahead.

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There are motion in a second.

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Thank you, Matt.

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We get zero roll call.

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Supervisor Richie.

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Supervisor Professor Professor Roger.

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Supervisor Tariferson Cockrow. Supervisor Keynesley.

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Yeah.

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Now moving on to the pipe department.

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All of them.

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I don't know if you can.

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It's a very nice month this month.

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You'll take fun of the old 90 people.

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I don't know if you can.

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I need glasses too.

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I don't know where to end.

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County Administrator Information Services.

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The last board is approved, can authorize the term for the sign.

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We'll go to both board and the resolution number 22 that's 21.

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And direct the ECCR Council of Governments to apply for a broad grant.

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And sorry, funding.

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I'll change another California to advance services funds in order to establish

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in your model, broadband, and sort of in that.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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The reason I asked you to have this poll is because there's a reference in the staff

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report to having a run of county service, a fiscal officer, since we pulled it off, just

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give a brief description of what's going on here.

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So as part of our overall broadband deployment to, you know,

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that got every household, we have the opportunity to take advantage

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of some grant funding, but there has to be a broadband

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consortia to apply for it.

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And we used to have one, it kind of just goes

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because the funding wasn't there anymore.

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Now there's more funding available, so we're going to take it down

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the S-Con Board, it is to say Council of Governments has historically always also been

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the Board for the Rodney Act Consortia.

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And so we're asking that you approve the resolution that's in your packet to fire up the

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consortium of one more time so that we can take advantage of the funds.

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And we have not decided that the grant applications do on July 15, which means that we're kind of doing everything at once, because we got late notification of the grant.

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And so, for asking you for to approve the resolution today.

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And then, as we move forward, we'll decide who is going to, which one of the four agencies will take on the fiscal officer.

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do these for this one, this particular grant, not for the whole S card or anything. And so that

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this one, we hold it while accounting will not necessarily be the fiscal agent, but we have

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that, you know, kind of has probably a little bit better than 25% chance of in the Africa duty.

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So, where is that in the resolution?

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It's not in the resolution, it's in the staff report, a person on page two, so we don't need to change the resolution.

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I think the resolution is fine.

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It's just a staff report, but it's a question.

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Now, just for further information, I'll say that the S-COG board is was, will be the governing board that then there's a advisory board of technical access to the public.

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No, I appreciate the clarification.

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Any questions from the public?

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Any motion?

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I will.

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I'll second.

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Supervisor Kingsley.

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That was a supervisor professor.

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Supervisor Roger.

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Chairperson.

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Thank you, President.

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Supervisor Pitchy.

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Now,

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I have them for 17.

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I want to read our request board.

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Hey.

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Just for a year.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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Zero.

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We have the fiscal year, 2021, 2021, 2022,

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parks and campgrounds budget is real 7, 6, 9, 9,

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has policies and pre-sandes with revenue,

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an operation transfer, and

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that we have, I believe,

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5,000 to start from $4.

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seeing empathy this year, can't tell you one thing, two general revenues and expenditure

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by the zero, one, nine, two, zero.

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It's all as a piece of information, an operation, an operation, transfer, out budget by the

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five thousand, six hundred and four dollars.

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And then last year, we had one, two, three, two, three, two, three, two, two,

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to 0-0-0-0-1 as follows in brief estimated revenue grants that not operating transfers in

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Mr. Speaker, we are going to be informed.

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The important point might be that we have 8,000, 600, and a 24-volt.

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Questions.

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Follow us.

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Mr. Chair, this item is just to make some budget amendments so that we can allow for the water department to pay for half of our Trex Order touit.

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It will be a different project and hopefully on the Lord project someday.

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And so this is something that wasn't budgeted for when we adopted the budget.

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So we're just fixing that before the fiscal year.

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So thank you to the Water Department for stepping up and helping the general.

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So, with this budget and then we'll have to stick to the US, 50% or parts projects.

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So, you know, I don't think so, because if you think about it, every project is,

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like, built on her, they're all, DWP property, they're all mitigation projects.

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So, okay.

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Yeah, we only come and I make is just I think it's really good efficient government because it kind of boosts heart and heart impact a little bit by utilizing these horses that are animals. I think it's great.

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Yeah, thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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I'll second.

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Supervisor 15.

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Yes.

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Supervisor Roger. Yes. Supervisor Kingsley. Okay. Supervisor. Yes.

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I'll just mention that this, this boat has been in the works for a long time and

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sorely needed and I thank Leslie and others who finally got together and finally got

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in order to, can't wait to see a work.

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That's a two-rebole.

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Does that mean you're making an out of two-rebole?

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Sorry, you said a five-month term.

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Item number 18, words and prizes.

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The best work I think you see that it's a combination

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from the frame of the equation.

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Side of the launch value with the information,

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I'm kind of about this range, this entry, and that access can be, that one bond, that two, one, five, this range of roads, because of big fine fish entry, parking lot, for a third of those projects, I think that's a good question.

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Yes, thank you, Mr. Chair and honored.

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First of all, I just want to thank everyone in attendance today, both in person and online.

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I think it's really inspiring to see the interest of our many partners and residents.

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Second, I also want to thank our staff, particularly CAO Chapman, our water department,

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and County Council, Balejo, and of course,

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a county clerk's RC, who you need to do as everything.

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So I just want to thank them for their help and efforts,

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their council, and bringing this workshop to fruition.

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It's been really appreciated.

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So before we get going, I just wanted to say a word or two.

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Over the last several weeks, I've been reaching out

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to partner jurisdictions, agency representatives.

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Kind of anyone we could based on a great storming

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list of inviteies and a question that kept coming up is what is the project explained the project to me

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when I would talk to people and what what your goal what are you trying to do and so before we get into

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the presentation I just wanted to pick a comment or two about that because my goal is that

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that we can think outside the box a little bit so I'll just say as an elected supervisor and a

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small rural county of 19,000 people. It becomes quickly apparent that I can be pretty limited

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and reaching the goals and things that I think are important to the things that I want to do.

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But there's one thing that I can do, and that is I can be an advocate for my constituents.

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I can cheer for them. I can advocate for them. I can promote advocacy. And I feel that that's my primary

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role. So I'm really honored to be able to do that in this position. In this case, my constituents

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are actually members of the Southern Nation, the big kind of tribe of the Elens Valley,

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big kind of value tribe of Elens Valley. But at the same time, they're still my constituents.

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And so I've been concerned about how to elevate their voice, how to give them an opportunity

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to tell their story. And so in that manner, I guess, as such, the presentation that's

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are all going to see online and in person when I first saw it, I was moved by the vision

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and I was moved by the story that was pulled. And I felt that the story needed to be shared

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broader. I also felt that the story needed to be elevated to a higher level than just me.

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So that's my goal in purpose. You're going to hear today about reduce, recycle, and reuse.

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this really inspired me, I thought, what a brilliant thought when it comes to water, right?

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So I want to point out before we get started because I don't know if they'll take credits for it or not,

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but it's want to point out that thanks to the persistent advocacy of the big-point tribe

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and our water department, Department of Fish and Wildlife and Department well, the advocacy of the tribe,

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our water department, Department of Fish and Wildlife and the Department of Water and Power

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Follow the need to first take action, work on a solution, undertake engineering, and are now working on funding to complete the reduced portion of the vision that you're going to see in this presentation.

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I know our partners from Fish and Wildlife will talk about that in their virtual tour in presentation that they're going to give us an update on where that process is in the reduced portion of water usage and patry.

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Next, I just wanted to say to the people who are assembled here online and present, agency representatives elected officials and staff and the various jurisdictions who have responded to join us.

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I hope you'll catch the same vision that I saw.

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What I quickly realized after talking to a number of experts within our county and outside is that for a variety of reasons.

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The hope for outcome or goal of this vision might seem difficult in the current climate that we all have to operate in where we deal with landowners,

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county resources, water rights holders, lease holders, and the legal instruments such as the long-term water agreement.

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Those elements all make up the table where the seats are full. The seats are full of that table.

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And I do truly understand.

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That the problem with that is, is the big-time pilot tribe with the Owens Valley doesn't have a seat at that table.

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While I can't go back and change that, what I can do is ask with all the assembled knowledge we have here today,

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what resources whether financial or next for tea, what resources can we bring to the tribe,

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and can we assist the tribe in developing a new table, a new table that's different.

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The table where tribal members, my constituent, cannot only feel a healing taking place on the land that they are so connected to.

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But can help determine more of the outcomes of that land.

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So the presentation that you're going to see, I think, asked the question that it also presents a vision.

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I think that vision, although I've outlined a few of the obstacles to that vision, there's a silver thread of hope.

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there is hope, and that hope for me is that we find the resources to help bring this vision to fruition.

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It's worthy and it bears being noticed and recognized and elevated. What I would also

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ask for the people that have assembled particularly online is what else can we bring to this new

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table. What else can we bring in this era of recognition and opportunity for tribal nations?

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What can be done that would enhance the lives of tribal members on the reservation behind?

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maybe there's something from some of you listening today are the resource opportunities that can help improve their

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quality. Are there opportunities of expertise in engineering or developing green spaces or supporting

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irrigation or in my hope ecological restoration. There's so many things that the landscape is in need of. So I just ask those that are with us today. Keep your minds open.

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I hope you catch the vision that's going to be presented to you, and I hope that you can

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partner with us in bringing resources to the table to help things come to help the

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vision come to life. So with that we're going to have two presentations today and I will just

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draw a notice on our presenters have brought some visual, so until. So if anybody wants to see some

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of the maps that are going to be presented on the screen, they're much larger format out in the lobby.

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I think they're great.

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So we're going to have two presentations, one from the tribe,

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and then tribal members, and then also Fish and Game

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or Fish and Wildlife, is going to give us a virtual tour

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of the hatchery, and also explain some of the things they're doing.

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So first, I want to introduce, we'll get started here,

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and thank both Sally Manning, the environmental director,

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and the Williams, the water program coordinator

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for the big-time pilot tribe of the Owen's Valley.

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Thank you, guys.

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And I know you guys have been working on this, so we're really excited, so you're going to do great.

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On a hook, no Williams, the Tribal Water Program Coordinator, the Big Pine Pipe Tribal View on its Valley.

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I like the first, I start off by just thinking those who have joined us in person and those who are tuning in via Zoom.

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The focus of today's meeting is fish springs, which many of you know is located approximately five miles south of the Big Pine and Big Pine Pipe Reservation.

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Our ancestors and relatives lived and used the fish springs area since time immemorial.

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Like most places in the Owens Valley, which we call Hayahunadu, where land of the flowing water,

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experience the major changes which took place a few generations ago.

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The tribe is long been concerned with the excessive groundwater pumping, which takes place now at the fish springs

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battery to supply the fish brings battery mitigation project.

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Operations which occur today were implemented

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long before the tribes. Long before state and local agencies were required to consult with tribes.

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We hope this presentation helps everyone understand the tribes' concerns. Next, we'll pass it along to Sally.

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for doing social activities or

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in the United States,

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a kind of a,

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and that's a kind of a kind of a

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kind of a kind of a kind of think,

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or I think,

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which is an organization to this country.

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Whether or not there's a different council

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of our channel from there now,

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and don't do it with those amputes.

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We also have a high-end council for my support,

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we're going to have to assist you with the public.

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We want it because I have to have to be involved

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in this framework.

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I also want to acknowledge our council's

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participation officer in

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every place,

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a story to tell. So we're going to start the overview of a current

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task position for this group. I'm sorry, so I'll be free to get to

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part. Can I sit on my girlfriend? We might be having her done here in

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online. Yeah, yeah, we might. Yeah, well, people online can't

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here. We get text messages. So if we interrupt you in middle

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distance, they can't kneel down. But that is a letter to us.

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But we wanted to make a difference.

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Oh, it's a long report.

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But we wanted to make a difference.

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No, I don't know.

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Because we're different height.

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And we would be constantly adjusting in adjusts.

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But yeah, I was saying that every place has stories to tell.

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We're going to start with the brief overview of current and past conditions at the

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springs.

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Next, we're going to spend some time on the LED to the Los Angeles Department of Water

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company situation. Then after that background in context, the tribe is going to offer some ideas

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for a better future for fish springs. And as a result, we think for big fine in general and hopefully

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for everybody. We hope that this information generates discussion and perhaps identifies collaborative

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solutions. So NOAA and I will be taking turns presenting in here and we'll hand it back to NOAA.

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Most of us know fish springs as it has been part of the most of our lives.

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As a fish hatchery located south of the decline of the base of Prater Mountain,

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we've seen the landscape change from natural springs to the long concrete raceways filled with rainbow trout.

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California Department of Fish and Wildlife operates the fish rearing operations.

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The hatchery obtains the fish as eggs and rears them.

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Once the fish are large enough to be legally captured,

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The fish, mostly rainbow trout, are transported into waterways across the eastern Serus.

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This fish brings hatchery stalking map appears at the CDFW website.

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It shows where the trout are raised, and the fish brings, and where they are planted.

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Please note the location shown on the stalking map, or in Mono County, or access through Mono County.

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Before 1970, natural springs at the base of crater mountain provided water for the hatchery.

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Water from the spring is shown in the upper photo. This photo was taken in 1952.

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About 20 years after the upper photo was taken, the natural spring ceased.

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It's 1970. Water has been supplied by two of LADWP's largest pumps in the Owens Valley,

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well, 330 and well, 332. They normally operate these wells 24-7. In total, they typically

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pump more than 20,000 acre feet per year. This equals to about 10 times the amount of water

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that the city of Bishop uses in a single year.

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The next slide is an aerial photo of the fish

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This slide illustrates the movement of ground water through the fish springs hatchery system.

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The do main wells are circled in red.

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Once the groundwater is pumped to the surface, the water flow pattern is shown with blue arrows.

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The pumped groundwater flows to the 1,000 foot raceways, exits through an underground pipe,

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shown in yellow,

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and then flows to the curving settling ponds that have been part of the facility

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for a long time. After making this journey through the settling ponds, the water flows eastward

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to the fifth under the fish springs road and quickly merges with the big pine canal.

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From here, the water enters the Los Angeles Aquatic System at the north side of Tinamaha Reservoir.

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The fish brings hatchery and two others in the CDFW's inland desert region made the headlines in

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2020 when it was discovered.

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The fish were infected with a disease causing bacteria.

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After operations were shut down and unfortunately millions of fish were utilized.

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Once the infected fish were removed, the facilities needed to be thoroughly cleaned.

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Here they are.

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They need a raceway at the Mojave fish hatchery.

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Fish brings hatchery also needed to be cleaned.

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and the LAPWP pumps would turn off for several months.

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New fish eggs arrived at the fish springs hatchery in a few months later in early 2021.

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There was little water that was needed to clear the fish to the early egg and larval status.

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During this time, the tribe was a paying attention to the news.

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The disruption and the disruption and operations presented an opportunity to reevaluate

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the fish springs hatchery system and its water use.

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The tribe reached out to various agencies shortly after hearing about the disease outbreak.

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You may ask yourself why. Why is the tribe interested? We have many reasons.

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Historically, fish springs was a place where an abundance of pool, clean water,

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poured naturally from the base of Prater Mountain.

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One of the first written accounts about the springs appeared in a report by Captain John Davidson

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It came through the valley in the summer of 1859, in the hero, between Hope Creek, and

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Dragood for hersuspring, rising the plane, still larger than that which forms Lovacree.

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I had called it M.Spring.

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The water of both of them is clear as crystal, cold and delightful to the taste, although as

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the same height of using the names that we recognize today, Lovacree is what we know as

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hind springs, which is now dry, and mammoth springs was fish springs.

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So, in today's terms,

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it would read, between tinomhoch, crepe, and big pine and baker crepe, the curses of spring,

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rising into plains, still larger than the one which forms hind springs. I have called it

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fish spring. The water of both of them is clear as crystal, cold, and delightful to the taste.

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01:57:42,980 --> 01:57:46,020
This brings was the largest spring in the Owens Valley.

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01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,060
At the time of Davidson's,

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01:57:50,800 --> 01:57:55,180
at the time when Davidson explored the valley, there were no trout or bass in the Owens River.

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01:57:56,320 --> 01:58:02,860
Or any of its tributaries. There were four species of endemic fish to the Owens Valley.

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01:58:03,300 --> 01:58:08,800
Captain John Davidson's report includes a drying and description of the famous Owens Pubfish.

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01:58:10,340 --> 01:58:16,500
And, of course, the area was well known and heavily used by the new people since time of memorial.

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01:58:17,580 --> 01:58:24,380
It's 1933 sketch by Dr. Dullian Stewart gives some idea of the wide variety of activities in the region.

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01:58:25,460 --> 01:58:28,220
As you can see, fish springs is outlined in red.

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01:58:29,880 --> 01:58:35,080
Notice, many wild seedlands and villages or campsites include in this region.

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01:58:35,080 --> 01:58:36,100
With

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01:58:39,590 --> 01:58:43,530
the presence of abundant water, there was plenty of food and wildlife in the area.

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01:58:44,610 --> 01:58:46,290
And nearby, there is a source of obsidian.

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01:58:48,520 --> 01:58:52,540
Many big pine travel members and others have grandparents or great-grandparents who

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01:58:52,540 --> 01:58:55,040
lived in use of the fish spring area.

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01:58:58,120 --> 01:59:02,180
One of the earliest aerial photographs of the big pine area shows where the spring flow.

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01:59:03,000 --> 01:59:08,960
In this view taken in 1947, we see the location of fish springs about five miles south of

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01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:09,580
the big pine.

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01:59:10,700 --> 01:59:17,060
We also see well-watered vegetation on the valley floor between crater mountain and the Owens River.

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01:59:20,910 --> 01:59:24,370
Here is a short review of things that we know.

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01:59:24,910 --> 01:59:29,550
Fish springs is located five miles south of the big pine at the base of crater mountain

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01:59:29,550 --> 01:59:32,270
and was the largest natural spring in the Owens valley.

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01:59:33,530 --> 01:59:38,310
Natural flow range from 16 to 18,000 acre feet per year.

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01:59:39,310 --> 01:59:41,550
The area was much used by the new people.

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01:59:43,850 --> 01:59:50,550
You're American settlers establish a small town called Fish Spring in the early 1870s.

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01:59:51,190 --> 01:59:57,090
People found in mind in the area until the lands were sold to LADWP in the early 20th century.

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01:59:59,000 --> 01:59:59,980
Some lands, we have fish.

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02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:10,120
Springs were patented in the late 19th and early 20th century by how you people, including Jim Hill Sr. and Joe Bayhee.

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02:00:12,320 --> 02:00:18,740
This spring was noted as a site of the very first introduction of the Rainbow Trout into the Owens River watershed.

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02:00:20,340 --> 02:00:26,220
When there are brought from the Kings River by J. W. McMurray in 1872.

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02:00:29,360 --> 02:00:40,040
So now the story takes an unfortunate turn, so I take over, LAWWP proceeded to purchase the parcel with the spring in 1906.

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02:00:41,180 --> 02:00:46,220
LAWWP then purchased all the nearby parcels that were available, owning it all by the 1920s.

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02:00:46,920 --> 02:00:53,300
land to the west on Crater Mountain is with Drawnland, it's now managed by the Bureau of Land Management.

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02:00:54,920 --> 02:01:03,780
Trauma were raised at fish springs beginning in 1872. In the early 1950s, California Department of Fish and Bame,

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02:01:04,040 --> 02:01:11,800
formerly established its fish springs hatchery. For the next 20 years, fish and Bame, the use of the spring water to grow the fish

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02:01:11,800 --> 02:01:21,540
course for recreational purposes. In 1970, LAWP had completed its enlarged second barrel of the LA

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02:01:21,540 --> 02:01:27,920
aqueduct. Leading up to that they had installed pumps throughout the Oens Valley and they began

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02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:35,620
pumping them to fill the additional capacity in the LA aqueduct. So about 1970, the two new wells

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02:01:35,620 --> 02:01:41,900
at the fish springs hatchery were turned on and shortly afterwards the springs went dry.

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02:01:43,540 --> 02:01:52,700
This graph shows LAVWP pumping and fish springs natural flow from the period 1928 through 2019.

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02:01:53,740 --> 02:02:02,220
Time is along the bottom axis and the volume of water in acre feet is along the vertical axis.

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02:02:02,220 --> 02:02:09,020
The red line in this graph shows the volume of LADWP groundwater pumping in the big pine

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02:02:09,020 --> 02:02:14,640
well field and the blue line shows the volume of natural flow from fish springs.

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02:02:15,880 --> 02:02:18,120
Clearly, you're seeing an inverse relationship.

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02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:21,700
That is, when there was no pumping, the spring used to flow.

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02:02:22,260 --> 02:02:27,600
But once LADWP pumping began with continuous high rates around 1970.

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02:02:28,080 --> 02:02:30,720
No one has seen the springs flow since that time.

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02:02:31,760 --> 02:02:37,080
When not affected by pumping as much as 18,000 acre feet per year, issued from the springs,

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02:02:37,580 --> 02:02:42,780
but pumping since 1970 has averaged thousands of acre feet greater than spring flow,

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02:02:43,260 --> 02:02:49,860
and this means that L.A.V.P captures all of the spring flow and additional water, and that's what it's concerned.

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02:02:52,850 --> 02:03:01,990
Drying up the spring, hook its toll on vegetation, habitat, and other resources, sorry, in the lands south of Big Pine.

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02:03:02,410 --> 02:03:14,250
Here we show again on the left, conditions in 1947, and the right hand photo shows conditions more recent view with dry, open soils all around the former wetlands and springs.

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02:03:18,350 --> 02:03:26,680
We'll see a five-acre pond near fish springs to the southwest of the D.L.M. land

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02:03:26,680 --> 02:03:29,340
this went dry when the pumping started.

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02:03:32,080 --> 02:03:36,400
In your county water department has a set of aerial photos taken in 1968.

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02:03:37,180 --> 02:03:38,380
They aren't very good quality.

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02:03:38,900 --> 02:03:43,500
They are black and white, but if you spend some time with them, you will see that

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02:03:43,500 --> 02:03:45,960
down the spring area around the hatchery.

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02:03:46,280 --> 02:03:50,100
There's about 30 acres of wetlands associated with the springs.

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02:03:50,680 --> 02:03:53,200
There's also some trees to the south of the hatchery.

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02:03:53,300 --> 02:03:57,900
There's irrigated lands and the five acre pond has things

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02:03:57,900 --> 02:03:59,060
to have water.

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02:04:01,700 --> 02:04:05,160
DWP's pumping of fish springs resulted in,

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02:04:05,160 --> 02:04:07,740
quote, significant environmental impacts,

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02:04:08,240 --> 02:04:11,120
according to the EIR, which was completed in 1991.

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02:04:11,120 --> 02:04:18,380
Something had decimated the springs, wetland habitat, trees, and all the organisms dependent on that water.

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02:04:19,340 --> 02:04:28,300
The EIR declared that the mitigation was something to produce trout. Basically this was an economic mitigation for ecosystem impacts.

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02:04:29,840 --> 02:04:36,100
Anything is, travel we're already produced here for 100 years prior to DWP's pumping.

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02:04:36,960 --> 02:04:41,320
The tribe and others have long asked, how can this be adequate mitigation?

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02:04:43,040 --> 02:04:49,820
Meanwhile, wells 330 and 330 to it, the hatchery were exempted from the water agreements, pumping management protocols.

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02:04:51,160 --> 02:04:56,860
But well exemptions are a discretionary action, and a technical group they revisit them at any time.

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02:04:58,520 --> 02:05:06,000
There's some language in the existing agreements, which tells you that the door is open for changes in the future.

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02:05:07,000 --> 02:05:13,700
That in your LA technical group can change the status of any well if certain environmental protections are not being met.

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02:05:14,060 --> 02:05:16,180
So pumping out their strings can be altered.

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02:05:17,000 --> 02:05:25,360
Also, there are provisions in CEQA, the California Environmental Policy Act, which allows an agency to implement an alternative mitigation.

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02:05:25,360 --> 02:05:29,520
if it is shown to be equal or better than the mitigation of this replacing.

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02:05:35,740 --> 02:05:41,700
DWP pumping at fish springs continues to take its toll on the big pine area.

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02:05:42,500 --> 02:05:49,300
This interesting little bit fuzzy image was produced by consultants hired to do some hydrologic modeling

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02:05:49,300 --> 02:05:53,800
for the Ones Valley Indian water commission about 15 or 20 years ago.

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02:05:53,800 --> 02:06:01,660
Results of their modeling show the strong influence exerted by the DWP fish hatchery pumps on the movement of groundwater.

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02:06:02,720 --> 02:06:12,960
The hatchery is located at the end of that long black line, and the direction of groundwater flow is depicted by all the little blue arrows shown in the figure.

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02:06:13,820 --> 02:06:21,460
Naturally, groundwater would be flowing from west to east or from the Sierra Nevada or from left to right in this image.

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02:06:22,120 --> 02:06:29,640
From the Sierra Nevada to the Owens River and the Center of the Valley, then it would turn and head southward to its natural terminus that Owens Lake.

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02:06:30,340 --> 02:06:40,940
However, something disrupts the natural flow, and the groundwater is seen to be flowing eastward from Owens River, that towards the big pumps of fish hatchery.

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02:06:43,380 --> 02:06:47,180
Here are results from another hyperlogic modeling effort.

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02:06:47,540 --> 02:06:50,880
10 or 15 years ago, DWP consultants performed

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02:06:50,880 --> 02:06:57,100
the radius of influence analysis where they looked at the effects of individual DWP wells

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02:06:57,100 --> 02:06:59,760
on groundwater levels in the big pine area.

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02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:03,140
This is some of their rather hard to read.

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02:07:03,400 --> 02:07:09,140
Image, they're output, but it's for just one well, well 332 at

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02:07:09,140 --> 02:07:15,600
fish springs hatchery. The contour lines are in one foot intervals, and they show that this

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02:07:15,600 --> 02:07:20,520
well lowers the groundwater a lot near the well, which is in the lower part of the figure.

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02:07:21,560 --> 02:07:26,860
They're showing 9 to 10 feet of brought down, but the effects of this well

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02:07:26,860 --> 02:07:31,280
radiate out 5 to 6 miles through the north, all the way to the north at the big time.

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02:07:32,180 --> 02:07:37,000
They also radiate out to the west to make your creek area west of big pine.

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02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:44,940
And it's important to note that this is just one well for one year, normally at least two wells around at the same time.

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02:07:46,820 --> 02:07:46,840
No.

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02:07:48,200 --> 02:07:51,360
The hatchery wells were turned off in 2020 due to the fish pandemic.

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02:07:52,200 --> 02:07:55,340
You know, County made some measurements to see if there was any response from the groundwater.

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02:07:56,640 --> 02:08:01,300
They found a remarkable abrupt rise in the groundwater in some of the wells that they measured.

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02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:10,960
Monitoring well V17 GA Rose 8.4 feet and V228 Rose another 8.5 feet.

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02:08:10,960 --> 02:08:13,880
Respond to fairly coincided with the session of pumping.

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02:08:16,680 --> 02:08:22,840
In this next slide we see data, we see Indian counties data for modeling or for monitoring

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02:08:22,840 --> 02:08:24,280
well TA 100.

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02:08:25,380 --> 02:08:28,540
Notice the red arrow and the abrupt rise in the groundwater table.

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02:08:28,540 --> 02:08:35,380
The interruption of groundwater pumping allowed the water table to rise 1.7 feet, marking

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02:08:35,380 --> 02:08:39,220
the shallowest depth ever reported in this monitoring well.

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02:08:40,320 --> 02:08:41,480
Think about what this means.

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02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:48,340
Our hydrology and perhaps spring itself could recover if pumping is curtailed.

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02:08:50,800 --> 02:08:57,100
In January of 2021, well, 330 was turned on to supply water to the hatchery for the early

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02:08:57,100 --> 02:09:04,540
bearing stages before summer ended in 2021, both pumps were operating 24-7.

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02:09:06,160 --> 02:09:13,360
In late April of this year, 2022, CDFW announced in outbreak of a similar bacterial disease

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02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,480
at the fish spring and black rock hatcheries.

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02:09:16,760 --> 02:09:21,500
When the tribe asked, we were told that pumping is likely to continue at full capacity

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02:09:22,140 --> 02:09:25,120
while the CDFW monitors and treats their fish.

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02:09:27,070 --> 02:09:36,150
The happenings over almost two years now gave the tribe hope for the possibility of hydrologic recovery in the big pine area.

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02:09:36,750 --> 02:09:39,950
The tribe would like to see the natural spring flow again.

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02:09:40,630 --> 02:09:42,790
Question is, can we work for that goal?

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02:09:43,630 --> 02:09:50,410
The tribe has reached out to California Department of Fish and Wildlife, County of Inno, Los Angeles Department of Water and Power.

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02:09:50,410 --> 02:09:58,890
Fish and wildlife says that the annual pumping volume can be reduced about 12% with no effect on current production of fish.

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02:09:59,830 --> 02:10:05,250
This reduction could be achieved by this installing devices to reduce the output of the pumps.

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02:10:05,690 --> 02:10:10,990
The tribe has told that the DWP engineers have looked into it and they do see methods that should work.

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02:10:11,810 --> 02:10:16,670
12% to rather small decrease considering the total amount pump.

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02:10:16,670 --> 02:10:21,770
to try to like to see more of a reduction. And when we told this recently to fish in wildlife,

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02:10:22,110 --> 02:10:26,890
we learned that there are also considering some technological upgrades to perhaps the

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02:10:26,890 --> 02:10:32,690
aeration and filtration systems at the hatchery, which would allow for recirculation and reuse of

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02:10:32,690 --> 02:10:39,750
that risk-way water. If these upgrades are made, this could further reduce the amount of water they need to come.

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02:10:41,800 --> 02:10:51,620
The child's goals for fish rings are to get the natural spring to flow again, recreate diverse habitat, including weapons, and restore cultural resources.

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02:10:52,440 --> 02:11:00,460
What we view would be achieved if these goals are met would be aquiferate charge in the big pine area, healing of land, place, and spirit.

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02:11:01,700 --> 02:11:07,680
Environmental justice, meaningful mitigation for the excessive damage done to resources.

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02:11:07,680 --> 02:11:15,500
This would still be produced and there would be new opportunities for jobs, economic diversity and increased tourism.

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02:11:18,460 --> 02:11:20,200
Water would still flow naturally to the river.

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02:11:22,380 --> 02:11:25,060
Particularly that groundwater that you showed on the blue arrows.

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02:11:26,200 --> 02:11:31,800
And in addition to this, the 12 percent reduction and the technological upgrades,

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02:11:31,800 --> 02:11:38,840
The tribe would like to add the third proposal, and that would be to explore options to discharge

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02:11:38,840 --> 02:11:44,460
the hatchery outflow water, in such a way that resource wetlands and habitat and where the water

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02:11:44,460 --> 02:11:49,080
percolates back to the groundwater, such that it can be recycled and used again to hatchery.

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02:11:50,660 --> 02:11:56,300
We see at least three possibilities for places where hatchery excellent could be placed in order

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02:11:56,300 --> 02:11:58,800
to create a wetland and infiltration fund.

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02:11:59,480 --> 02:12:02,800
First, this would mean that water is not exported

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02:12:02,800 --> 02:12:04,520
from the fish springs area.

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02:12:04,960 --> 02:12:09,160
Instead, it's rerouted or diverted to nearby locations.

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02:12:09,920 --> 02:12:12,480
The possibilities include number one,

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02:12:13,000 --> 02:12:15,860
the former Indian Allotment Land held by Mr. Dayhee,

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02:12:15,860 --> 02:12:20,660
south of the hatchery, number two, a dugout boat pit.

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02:12:21,060 --> 02:12:23,480
We're not sure who put this here or when or why.

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02:12:23,480 --> 02:12:27,960
Number three, the five-acre pond along the

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02:12:28,380 --> 02:12:31,040
Moins Valley fault that went dry when the pumping began.

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02:12:31,880 --> 02:12:34,240
Here, that's there's some pictures of those places.

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02:12:35,040 --> 02:12:39,900
Number one, shows the former dehypersonal and number two is the baroque pit.

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02:12:40,260 --> 02:12:45,440
Both images, the red arrow, is pointing to the trees near the hatchet staff.

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02:12:45,920 --> 02:12:48,780
Housing at the hatchery, so you can see it's not that far away.

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02:12:48,780 --> 02:12:57,880
And the next photo shows number three, the pond, if I make her pond, it is located in a depression, you can't see the hatchery from here.

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02:12:58,540 --> 02:13:00,960
Clearly it has been dry for a while.

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02:13:01,560 --> 02:13:03,720
Some plants and shrubs have moved in.

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02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:11,760
The lower photo shows me standing next to a big flat basalt folder that probably rolled down from the side of the hill.

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02:13:12,200 --> 02:13:18,080
And it probably been sitting in the pond for quite a while, because on the side of the boulder there's some white buildup.

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02:13:18,080 --> 02:13:21,100
And it's about three feet high, and so the pond water

624
02:13:21,100 --> 02:13:23,600
must have been, you know, I'm really tall, you know,

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02:13:23,780 --> 02:13:26,620
about three feet high, and that month, it had water.

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02:13:28,520 --> 02:13:30,800
So here are the pride suggested mechanisms

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02:13:30,800 --> 02:13:32,300
to achieve the goals.

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02:13:32,520 --> 02:13:34,180
It can be recognized real simply.

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02:13:34,660 --> 02:13:37,980
So you can remember, you do reuse and recycle.

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02:13:38,220 --> 02:13:41,000
That is reduce the pumping, 12% reduction

631
02:13:41,000 --> 02:13:43,060
has been suggested, but not implemented.

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02:13:43,660 --> 02:13:46,500
However, we don't think 12% really would be enough

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02:13:46,500 --> 02:13:49,440
to certainly have the spring flow again.

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02:13:50,780 --> 02:13:53,660
Two would be to recirculate and be used

635
02:13:53,660 --> 02:13:56,440
to pump water at the hatchery by making those improvements.

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02:13:57,200 --> 02:13:59,520
And number three would be to infiltrate

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02:13:59,520 --> 02:14:03,340
hatchery and effluent to recharge ground water effectively

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02:14:03,340 --> 02:14:04,940
recycling water.

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02:14:07,410 --> 02:14:10,990
We include this slide from the CDFW website

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02:14:10,990 --> 02:14:14,750
because CDFW already recycles hatchery water in

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02:14:14,750 --> 02:14:17,390
Dr. Villette, or Mahabhi River, the Shatri.

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02:14:18,570 --> 02:14:20,150
Highlighted in yellow, it reads,

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02:14:20,770 --> 02:14:22,590
waters that leave the hatchery,

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02:14:23,050 --> 02:14:24,410
circulate back to the aquifer,

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02:14:25,130 --> 02:14:27,230
but first create an excellent wetland

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02:14:27,230 --> 02:14:29,150
for wildlife and wildlife viewing.

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02:14:31,630 --> 02:14:34,090
The tribe recognizes it may take time

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02:14:34,090 --> 02:14:36,790
to get the natural flows from the spring again.

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02:14:37,930 --> 02:14:39,630
As we implement this approach,

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02:14:39,850 --> 02:14:43,090
we do reuse and recycle hatchery operations

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02:14:43,510 --> 02:14:44,430
and continue.

652
02:14:44,430 --> 02:14:49,770
We do think that steps take them to conserve water at the hatchery will provide relief to the

653
02:14:49,770 --> 02:14:54,830
chronic police, stress, big fine groundwater offer, and it's important to the type.

654
02:14:54,890 --> 02:14:59,810
To recover, he's water resources not only for the present but for the future, which is uncertain.

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02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:11,600
For all of us, the would of course need to be monitoring during all of this groundwater levels, water quality, to look at responses to the changes and operations and water management.

656
02:15:12,560 --> 02:15:19,360
Monitoring data could be used to determine if adjustments need to be made to the facilities or the wetlands.

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02:15:20,320 --> 02:15:25,480
If this simple figure outlines the process, I would say we are not quite halfway.

658
02:15:25,940 --> 02:15:30,720
The tribe has presented its goals and offered what we think are some reasonable ways to achieve

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02:15:30,720 --> 02:15:31,620
them.

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02:15:31,840 --> 02:15:37,460
The next steps would be generating sufficient interest and support and then moving to develop

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02:15:37,460 --> 02:15:41,160
the plan for a project which is capable of achieving the goals.

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02:15:44,630 --> 02:15:49,310
The time has come to assess certain and landed and water management practices to see if there

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02:15:49,310 --> 02:15:55,330
better ways to help lands, waters, and indigenous peoples, and all living things on this planet.

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02:15:56,690 --> 02:16:01,550
Some recent examples of tribes working very hard to recover in their store lands, and wildlife

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02:16:01,550 --> 02:16:08,110
include as dams are removed in the northwest, reintroducing fish into streams and tributaries

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02:16:08,110 --> 02:16:14,090
that they used to occupy. For example, this would be the nest pierce, and nest pierce fisheries

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02:16:14,090 --> 02:16:22,530
in Idaho, California State Parks renaming sites to former or appropriate names, such as the

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02:16:22,530 --> 02:16:24,830
renaming of the Sue-Makes State Park,

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02:16:26,880 --> 02:16:29,460
re-roaming buffalo returning to their historic ranges

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02:16:29,460 --> 02:16:35,880
to help from tribes in Wyoming, and lands in California Redwoods and Mojave Deserts,

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02:16:36,520 --> 02:16:41,180
that are putting, that are being put into land trust, managed by tribes or tribal consortia.

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02:16:41,980 --> 02:16:48,300
This brings presents an opportunity to write a long stemming wrong in the big pine area.

673
02:16:49,540 --> 02:16:50,500
Thank you.

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02:17:10,900 --> 02:17:12,900
Thank you.

675
02:17:13,660 --> 02:17:22,260
Mr. Chair, if I may, I know there probably be comments and questions, but I wonder we have our first and wildlife partners on the line as well.

676
02:17:22,340 --> 02:17:23,920
I don't know, Darcy, you see them.

677
02:17:24,420 --> 02:17:24,640
Okay.

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02:17:26,120 --> 02:17:27,180
We just want to presentation.

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02:17:27,180 --> 02:17:30,300
And we're not able to take a physical tour of the hatchery.

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02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:40,620
So we've got that thankfully the staff with the Department of Fish and Wildlife is going to give us a virtual tour as well as explain some of the ongoing operations.

681
02:17:41,380 --> 02:17:54,860
And some of the steps are being taken to achieve the first step we do. So I want to introduce Dan Townsett who's the fish hatchery manager to Matt Norris who's hatchery supervisor regions five and six.

682
02:17:54,860 --> 02:18:01,140
And Russell Black, who is the senior environmental scientist, supervisor for Fisheries Region 6.

683
02:18:01,760 --> 02:18:08,780
So I believe they'll have a presentation as well. And then hopefully we can take questions and comments

684
02:18:10,440 --> 02:18:16,960
as we have time. There they are. Thank you guys. Have they worked out their presentation?

685
02:18:20,120 --> 02:18:22,100
You don't have to.

686
02:18:25,700 --> 02:18:27,480
You want me to start that presentation now?

687
02:18:28,440 --> 02:18:28,780
Just please.

688
02:18:29,780 --> 02:18:33,020
Let me share my screen and get this figured out and let me know.

689
02:18:33,720 --> 02:18:34,320
It's coming up.

690
02:18:34,440 --> 02:18:35,240
You're in.

691
02:18:42,460 --> 02:18:43,260
It's good.

692
02:18:43,380 --> 02:18:43,400
It's good.

693
02:18:43,400 --> 02:18:44,040
It's green is there.

694
02:18:44,080 --> 02:18:44,840
Thank you.

695
02:18:45,080 --> 02:18:45,480
Thank you.

696
02:18:45,500 --> 02:18:45,720
Thank you.

697
02:18:48,070 --> 02:18:48,590
All

698
02:18:54,260 --> 02:18:55,500
right.

699
02:18:55,880 --> 02:18:56,180
Yes.

700
02:18:56,260 --> 02:18:57,120
I'm Dan Tonseth.

701
02:18:57,240 --> 02:18:58,820
I'm the fish hatching manager too.

702
02:18:59,060 --> 02:19:00,880
Fish rings hatchery.

703
02:19:02,200 --> 02:19:11,020
It's a quick little virtual tour and a couple new things we're working on for water conservation here at the hatchery.

704
02:19:11,280 --> 02:19:12,960
Get right into it.

705
02:19:13,340 --> 02:19:16,100
So we're in fish springs known as Valley New County.

706
02:19:16,120 --> 02:19:18,380
We're approximately five miles south in the town of Bitcoin.

707
02:19:19,380 --> 02:19:22,200
A little bit of the history of fish springs hatchery.

708
02:19:22,200 --> 02:19:24,800
It was originally constructed in 1952.

709
02:19:25,400 --> 02:19:27,940
At that time, like has been said before.

710
02:19:27,940 --> 02:19:34,800
it was on natural springs on site that produced about 18 CFS. It was modernized in 1972.

711
02:19:36,080 --> 02:19:42,220
Two gravel ground water wells were sunk on site. Six, one thousand foot concrete

712
02:19:42,220 --> 02:19:49,200
raceways were added as far as the part of the modernization. And in 2009, a modern hatchery building

713
02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:50,040
was added.

714
02:19:52,990 --> 02:19:59,310
This is just an overhead view of the hatchery. You can see the concrete raceways over here.

715
02:19:59,310 --> 02:20:10,050
This was the original Earth and Ponds from the 1952 construction, the modern hatchery building, and this would be our mid-ponderation system, which we'll talk about a little bit later.

716
02:20:12,650 --> 02:20:24,010
What we raised, we can raise up to 400,000 pounds of fish a year, fairly easily, we do rainbow trout, eagle lake rainbow trout, brown trout, and a LaHont and cut throat trout.

717
02:20:25,670 --> 02:20:28,330
We're at least fish go in the eastern Sierra.

718
02:20:28,750 --> 02:20:30,110
20 waters in your county.

719
02:20:30,870 --> 02:20:32,810
As far south as Codwood Creek,

720
02:20:33,350 --> 02:20:35,110
and go all the way to the Indian Mono County line.

721
02:20:35,730 --> 02:20:37,650
26 waters in Mono County,

722
02:20:38,610 --> 02:20:40,650
and it goes from the Indian Mono County line,

723
02:20:40,770 --> 02:20:42,770
and we're responsible up to Conway Summit.

724
02:20:44,570 --> 02:20:48,550
So quite a bit of driving goes on.

725
02:20:50,810 --> 02:20:54,050
So I just kind of go over how the water flows in this hatchery system,

726
02:20:54,050 --> 02:21:00,950
how it flows where it ends up and so this is an overhead view of the hatchery currently

727
02:21:00,950 --> 02:21:05,730
or not currently because that building is not there yet but there's two electric wells

728
02:21:05,730 --> 02:21:12,970
the pump groundwater which are for the blue arrows are pointing. These two wells are capable of

729
02:21:12,970 --> 02:21:19,470
20 x CFS combined. One will maybe shut off at a time for operational needs and water savings we

730
02:21:19,470 --> 02:21:26,170
ability to do that. Each will has an alarm and diesel backup near the event of power outage without one of these

731
02:21:26,170 --> 02:21:35,030
for both of these wells flowing, we're at the risk of catastrophic fish loss. It's just a quick

732
02:21:35,030 --> 02:21:41,710
picture of the wellhouse, the will, electric will and the diesel backup.

733
02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:46,180
After the groundwater

734
02:21:46,180 --> 02:21:52,100
water comes out and it's pumped out. It goes to these erration towers. The water flows over

735
02:21:52,100 --> 02:21:58,300
erration media and several erration boxes. The oxygenated water goes back underground into

736
02:21:58,300 --> 02:22:04,280
the raceways. The water coming out of the ground is very low in oxygen. So these help oxygenate

737
02:22:04,280 --> 02:22:10,580
the water and get rid of any undesirable gases, nitrogen gas, hydrogen sulfide stuff like that

738
02:22:10,580 --> 02:22:11,740
comes from the groundwater.

739
02:22:14,530 --> 02:22:19,390
These are picture of the raceways. There are 6,000-foot raceways. This

740
02:22:19,390 --> 02:22:26,370
is where fish are grown to a plantable size, which could be two to the pound or somewhere around

741
02:22:26,370 --> 02:22:32,430
10 to the pound for our sub-catchable lotments up and down the eastern Sierra. Once a desired size

742
02:22:32,430 --> 02:22:36,930
is reached, fish are loaded in plant trucks and transported to their intended destination.

743
02:22:40,250 --> 02:22:45,990
The hatchery buildings, after the water leaves the erration towers, some of it is flown into the hatchery building.

744
02:22:46,570 --> 02:22:50,890
This is where eggs are hatched and fry or raised up to a size where they can be transferred to the raceway.

745
02:22:51,550 --> 02:22:53,850
When this building isn't in use, you don't have egg or fry in the building.

746
02:22:54,050 --> 02:22:55,570
We do shut the water off to this building.

747
02:22:55,770 --> 02:22:57,790
We have the ability to do that.

748
02:23:00,880 --> 02:23:07,140
So at the 500 foot mark on the raceways, water is pumped into these second erration towers.

749
02:23:07,140 --> 02:23:12,660
government on-air-ation towers, it increases the dissolved oxygen and removes harmful gases to the

750
02:23:12,660 --> 02:23:19,380
fish. After the water is aerated, it goes into a sump down here and is reintroduced back at the mid-pond

751
02:23:19,380 --> 02:23:19,800
level.

752
02:23:22,100 --> 02:23:26,500
Sorry if I'm talking fast, I'm not a great public speaker. You're doing great.

753
02:23:28,360 --> 02:23:34,960
So waste removal, you know, fish-y-8 in great ways. So we have to remove that before it goes back

754
02:23:34,960 --> 02:23:41,000
out of the hatchery. So when the modernization happened in 1972,

755
02:23:43,600 --> 02:23:45,780
we utilize the old earth and

756
02:23:45,780 --> 02:23:52,140
ponds as a sediment block system. So the water comes from the tails right here. It goes underground

757
02:23:52,140 --> 02:23:58,860
and enters right here. It may enter through the old earth and ponds and exits and goes back into

758
02:23:58,860 --> 02:24:07,900
This brings can now, just kind of reiterate what I just said, this is the after at least

759
02:24:07,900 --> 02:24:13,460
the settling bonds and it goes into canal here, which eventually ends up in Timma and those

760
02:24:13,460 --> 02:24:14,480
river system.

761
02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:21,760
So, a little bit on proposed future water savings for the hatchery.

762
02:24:22,100 --> 02:24:26,700
Right now we're working on adding variable flow valves.

763
02:24:26,700 --> 02:24:31,560
We discussed another options with DWP, including variable speed pumps.

764
02:24:32,520 --> 02:24:38,860
There were those variable speed pumps are not very reliable at times.

765
02:24:39,780 --> 02:24:41,080
So a valve would be added.

766
02:24:41,260 --> 02:24:46,300
Anti-captation valve would be added in between the wells and the aeration tower.

767
02:24:47,000 --> 02:24:49,060
Right now the current system, like I said before,

768
02:24:49,280 --> 02:24:53,700
that it's either on or off, there's no fine tuning or, you know,

769
02:24:53,700 --> 02:24:56,880
Increasing flows are decreasing flows as needed.

770
02:24:57,520 --> 02:25:02,680
This would allow for a fine tuning of our flows for both water savings and optimal fish growth.

771
02:25:06,680 --> 02:25:09,780
The second would be modernizing this old dinosaur here.

772
02:25:09,860 --> 02:25:12,520
This is the mid-pawn aeration system.

773
02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:14,820
It's 40, 50 years old.

774
02:25:15,400 --> 02:25:16,900
It's not very efficient anymore.

775
02:25:17,480 --> 02:25:23,000
So adding efficient pumps and a modern, more efficient aeration system.

776
02:25:23,000 --> 02:25:26,980
as well as an electric backup that would replace these diesel

777
02:25:26,980 --> 02:25:28,280
right angle drive backups.

778
02:25:29,680 --> 02:25:31,340
This would allow us to

779
02:25:31,340 --> 02:25:33,820
in theory run with less water for longer.

780
02:25:34,100 --> 02:25:35,140
If we have better

781
02:25:35,140 --> 02:25:36,720
oxygenated water

782
02:25:36,720 --> 02:25:41,240
from mid pond now, which usually is pretty bad with

783
02:25:41,240 --> 02:25:44,100
dissolved oxygen, in theory we could

784
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:47,360
run with less water for a longer period of time.

785
02:25:47,440 --> 02:25:49,700
This is in the works right now.

786
02:25:50,780 --> 02:25:51,420
So,

787
02:25:54,040 --> 02:25:58,040
thank you for listening to me, ramble on, and.

788
02:25:58,880 --> 02:25:59,500
Thanks, Dan.

789
02:26:00,060 --> 02:26:03,720
So you said the midpoint iteration is something you're already working on.

790
02:26:04,060 --> 02:26:08,900
Is that you've got some working with the moment you want to take that?

791
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:20,020
Yeah, we have entered into a contract with the vendor to redesign the whole system and implement construction.

792
02:26:20,800 --> 02:26:35,980
Global supply chain issues have made it so it's probably going to be at least several years before the project is completed, but yes, money has been allocated in the contract is in place to make those improvements.

793
02:26:38,660 --> 02:26:44,660
That's encouraging, so I suspect you have some presentation you wanted to make, but I thought

794
02:26:44,660 --> 02:26:49,180
it would be great if you could update on the, on the reduced part, the variable speed

795
02:26:49,820 --> 02:26:50,380
felt.

796
02:26:52,300 --> 02:26:59,360
Right, so the, the variable speed motors are not going to be an option due to, as Dan said,

797
02:26:59,700 --> 02:27:02,300
the indication that they are less reliable.

798
02:27:02,300 --> 02:27:05,900
And obviously, when you're raising a live product,

799
02:27:08,880 --> 02:27:12,400
the risk of a motor going out and fish

800
02:27:12,400 --> 02:27:15,060
dying really isn't an optimal solution.

801
02:27:16,140 --> 02:27:23,160
The installation of the valve through reduce the flow is by far an optimal choice both in

802
02:27:23,160 --> 02:27:34,840
and the low risk to the fish. So it looks as if that has potential and we've been told by our

803
02:27:36,400 --> 02:27:41,580
our leadership in Sacramento that funds will be available to hopefully have those installed

804
02:27:41,580 --> 02:27:46,040
as DWP finalizes their proposal.

805
02:27:47,220 --> 02:27:50,500
Do you give you people provided the engineering for that?

806
02:27:50,660 --> 02:27:51,040
Correct.

807
02:27:51,440 --> 02:27:55,460
The wells and the motors in the system is owned by them.

808
02:27:55,840 --> 02:28:01,320
So we certainly don't have the right to start installing apparatus that's going to affect their equipment.

809
02:28:01,700 --> 02:28:09,360
So they've been great about having staff out to look and see what will work and they've come up with this.

810
02:28:09,800 --> 02:28:14,160
The specs on what valves would be required and what is required.

811
02:28:14,160 --> 02:28:17,700
to keep their equipment going.

812
02:28:23,520 --> 02:28:25,500
Great, did you want to add anything else?

813
02:28:25,920 --> 02:28:28,820
Or did Russell want to speak?

814
02:28:33,210 --> 02:28:36,230
I was mostly on to answer any additional questions

815
02:28:36,230 --> 02:28:38,470
related to fisheries management, things about nature.

816
02:28:41,490 --> 02:28:43,030
Well, it's a share if you'd like to begin.

817
02:28:43,410 --> 02:28:45,870
If you guys don't have anything else that you wanted to present,

818
02:28:46,030 --> 02:28:47,850
well, first of all, thank you for the virtual tour.

819
02:28:48,050 --> 02:28:50,070
It was a good backup solution.

820
02:28:50,070 --> 02:28:52,130
I think Sally called it Plan B.

821
02:28:52,130 --> 02:28:52,750
to see.

822
02:28:54,770 --> 02:29:00,190
So, thank you for that. I appreciate it. Also, past one, thanks to Heidi for helping

823
02:29:00,830 --> 02:29:05,750
orchestrate. You guys to be here. Did you want to open it up to comment?

824
02:29:06,850 --> 02:29:09,610
Yeah, so as long as you're in line.

825
02:29:09,770 --> 02:29:11,450
Follow that question from the board first.

826
02:29:12,650 --> 02:29:14,070
I've got a few questions.

827
02:29:21,710 --> 02:29:27,250
So a few questions is, you mentioned the beginning that there was land that was patented.

828
02:29:27,590 --> 02:29:29,190
But Native Americans, what is that?

829
02:29:29,730 --> 02:29:30,610
There was an idea.

830
02:29:31,610 --> 02:29:32,550
I'm sorry.

831
02:29:33,350 --> 02:29:35,210
We have now seen the Indian Allotment Period.

832
02:29:36,210 --> 02:29:41,330
Before the 1932 land exchange went to some of the most notable ones of the area.

833
02:29:41,330 --> 02:29:45,250
We're full, some of the ones that we have focused on are the Jim Hill senior,

834
02:29:47,810 --> 02:29:47,930
Indian

835
02:29:47,930 --> 02:29:52,250
Alotment in the Joe Bayhee Indian Alotment as well.

836
02:29:52,930 --> 02:29:57,870
And this is a, these lands, well, Jim Hill, I'm actually a descendant of Jim Hill,

837
02:29:57,870 --> 02:29:58,930
It's fun for falling.

838
02:29:59,570 --> 02:29:59,970
That's a lot.

839
02:30:03,440 --> 02:30:10,840
And then that land is still held in trust to the state. It was never sold by the LAVVB. Fortunately,

840
02:30:12,900 --> 02:30:20,880
the dobehylotment is now the VVV land and it's located just south of the city of the VV staff housing.

841
02:30:22,020 --> 02:30:25,860
Okay. And so, to the big prime tribe controls that land?

842
02:30:25,860 --> 02:30:30,460
now state of California. No, no, Los Angeles Department of Water and Power.

843
02:30:30,560 --> 02:30:36,820
The other two, the first two that weren't sold. The gym hill senior is held in land trust.

844
02:30:39,080 --> 02:30:41,780
What is Andy? It's hard for me to answer that.

845
02:30:50,700 --> 02:30:52,680
Actually, gym hill senior did.

846
02:30:56,420 --> 02:30:59,540
And yet, well, you did take several parcels.

847
02:30:59,860 --> 02:31:05,040
I'm totally maybe 168 years, and half of it was sold off to L.A.V.P.

848
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:11,280
The 88kers do remain in the family, and they're in that virtually three weeks area.

849
02:31:11,840 --> 02:31:14,420
There's quite a lot of that's what's remaining in private.

850
02:31:15,280 --> 02:31:15,800
Holdings.

851
02:31:16,140 --> 02:31:21,040
And I should mention that Janice Flowers, who used to live there,

852
02:31:21,300 --> 02:31:23,800
wrote a really good book about fish springs in the history

853
02:31:23,800 --> 02:31:27,020
and it has incredible wealth of information, and that's right,

854
02:31:27,240 --> 02:31:29,160
is reading all the little details in the past.

855
02:31:30,000 --> 02:31:32,760
So the land itself is private land,

856
02:31:32,940 --> 02:31:35,000
the whole body of people who are the senders.

857
02:31:35,000 --> 02:31:37,140
The senders, it will stop in the trap.

858
02:31:37,380 --> 02:31:39,360
Okay, then send includes the private acre pond.

859
02:31:39,760 --> 02:31:41,480
That's on BLM plan.

860
02:31:42,140 --> 02:31:42,660
BLM.

861
02:31:42,880 --> 02:31:44,420
Okay, thank you.

862
02:31:45,400 --> 02:31:48,320
So is there an outlet to the private acre pond?

863
02:31:49,900 --> 02:31:54,300
So it just would fill up and then just will trade back then.

864
02:31:58,270 --> 02:31:59,550
These are good questions.

865
02:32:00,690 --> 02:32:01,550
I don't know.

866
02:32:01,770 --> 02:32:03,670
I just basically found it myself.

867
02:32:04,230 --> 02:32:06,670
You know, we had been out to it back in the 80s.

868
02:32:06,770 --> 02:32:10,530
And just wasn't even sure where it was until I looked on a map and went again.

869
02:32:10,910 --> 02:32:12,290
I have a feeling it was came.

870
02:32:12,430 --> 02:32:13,950
The water came up from the bottom.

871
02:32:14,390 --> 02:32:18,190
It was spring water and may or may not have happened outflow.

872
02:32:18,370 --> 02:32:20,530
Probably it could have been rather sailing.

873
02:32:20,530 --> 02:32:24,890
I mean, these are questions I think we can answer with some additional research and we haven't

874
02:32:24,890 --> 02:32:29,730
speaking with some people at UCLA and they're very interested in taking a look at

875
02:32:29,730 --> 02:32:33,810
conditions there and an old spring fence themselves too.

876
02:32:35,750 --> 02:32:40,190
Okay, do you know the depth of groundwater that would take to restore flow too?

877
02:32:44,930 --> 02:33:01,770
I think we have seen incredible bounce back when the pump's work turned off during a really dry period during the summer when water tables don't normally go up so that's very encouraging.

878
02:33:01,770 --> 02:33:07,410
So, we do know that there's a history suspect and it's going to go down real quick, takes

879
02:33:07,410 --> 02:33:08,870
a long time to recover.

880
02:33:10,390 --> 02:33:17,370
But I think that's why scaling the implementing these changes could tell us something about

881
02:33:17,370 --> 02:33:18,990
the rate of groundwater return.

882
02:33:19,810 --> 02:33:25,990
You do know that at BlackRock, based on 12,000, they now pump about 8,000 and that's because

883
02:33:25,990 --> 02:33:28,110
the water table to come up higher there.

884
02:33:28,110 --> 02:33:35,650
It's still a little bit more than the spring float, and I don't believe those, I don't know how close those are. That would be a question for you 100%.

885
02:33:35,650 --> 02:33:44,310
I was, it may I say, Ellie. Yeah, I've asked these questions, and I know I don't know if Keith wants to address them or not, but

886
02:33:44,310 --> 02:33:57,390
he can, or he doesn't have to. It's okay. I think one of the reasons, if I may, that we've asked people with resources here, and I've spoken to tribal members, and I think we're looking for it's not just finances.

887
02:33:57,390 --> 02:33:59,970
So when we asked for resources, we're looking for expertise.

888
02:34:00,170 --> 02:34:01,550
I mean, I've spoken to tribal members.

889
02:34:01,970 --> 02:34:08,730
We need, you know, are there grant programs that can facilitate a hydrograph or an inch

890
02:34:08,730 --> 02:34:14,710
near or people can help design a project, a ecological restoration project.

891
02:34:14,750 --> 02:34:19,030
I think we've seen a vision and I think it's a beautiful vision.

892
02:34:19,110 --> 02:34:24,990
But I think what we're looking for and what I've spoken to many of our attendees about is where

893
02:34:24,990 --> 02:34:30,710
the resources. We may not just financial resources that we need expertise resources, if I

894
02:34:31,270 --> 02:34:36,670
characterize that. Okay. I mean, the tribe has a small environmental department,

895
02:34:40,840 --> 02:34:41,580
and maybe this

896
02:34:41,580 --> 02:34:55,040
is a question for CFW. Why can't we use that, like say, the natural spring flow gets restored and that

897
02:34:55,040 --> 02:34:57,580
And you have fish, you have environment,

898
02:34:59,820 --> 02:35:02,980
can be just used in natural water instead of passing

899
02:35:02,980 --> 02:35:04,360
a huge pump water.

900
02:35:06,530 --> 02:35:12,010
Yes, I would be a decision, you know, made by CBFW and Los Angeles Department of Water

901
02:35:12,010 --> 02:35:13,010
and Power.

902
02:35:13,530 --> 02:35:17,050
However, you know, like you said in the presentation, you know, fish spring was the first site

903
02:35:17,050 --> 02:35:18,950
of the introduction of rainbow trout in this.

904
02:35:19,470 --> 02:35:20,550
That was the bigger watershed.

905
02:35:21,390 --> 02:35:25,070
The history of trout being in the region really started there.

906
02:35:25,070 --> 02:35:39,010
So why we ever changed probably the second barrel of the act that I'm curious from a technical standpoint from CFWF, they have a reason why natural art can just be used.

907
02:35:40,490 --> 02:35:42,850
No, you can raise fish on spring water.

908
02:35:43,350 --> 02:35:48,270
The question is would it flow in quantity enough to continue the current operation?

909
02:35:49,110 --> 02:35:58,930
And when I would come back, obviously, if I took a decade for the spring to return to the natural flows, there would be no fish production during that tenure period.

910
02:35:59,650 --> 02:36:01,270
So, we...

911
02:36:02,210 --> 02:36:02,750
Great answer.

912
02:36:03,290 --> 02:36:08,150
More or the increased flows, eventually went into the off the duck.

913
02:36:08,390 --> 02:36:13,650
There, because it felt like it would get more water or they really needed for the fish actually.

914
02:36:14,490 --> 02:36:20,990
Wow. Okay, and I have one more question that I think maybe is water department question.

915
02:36:22,530 --> 02:36:27,970
And that is like, who has, who has, yeah, some of them for what?

916
02:36:31,830 --> 02:36:46,930
So from the people side, who has the authority to make all of these different decisions and who can pay for it, who has to pay for it.

917
02:36:47,630 --> 02:36:49,850
Okay, that's a big question.

918
02:36:51,790 --> 02:36:53,410
Okay, maybe that's the new delay.

919
02:36:53,410 --> 02:36:55,470
Yeah, John, you want to start.

920
02:36:56,490 --> 02:37:05,090
Let me, let me, I want to answer the one question about how we got here, and we recall in the

921
02:37:05,090 --> 02:37:12,150
graph that was presented of pumping and spring flows in 1961, 62, 63.

922
02:37:12,150 --> 02:37:17,050
There was a period of pumping not as high, but when that happened, the spring flow almost

923
02:37:17,050 --> 02:37:21,750
dried up during that time period, and if you recall, that was when they were considering

924
02:37:21,750 --> 02:37:29,630
building the second octave. So if I understand the history correctly, they knew that if they were going to run

925
02:37:30,310 --> 02:37:38,110
other wells that exist in the big pine ball field, they would impact the spring and the hatchery operations.

926
02:37:39,210 --> 02:37:44,730
And that's why they made the agreement to install the wells to maintain fish production

927
02:37:46,250 --> 02:37:57,650
And then the pumping goes too well, because they are way other, what they're color built and how they're what they're completely into, what up to the chair, what to do, are really productive that's, it's no one mentioned in selling mentioned.

928
02:37:58,370 --> 02:38:12,690
So they produce a lot of water, but there are other wells in thick fine, and the concern was, if you increase or using the existing wells, going to impact the hatchery, put in two new wells, to make sure that continues.

929
02:38:12,690 --> 02:38:19,290
That could mean that got rolled into the water demon as an exemption and as a mitigation

930
02:38:19,290 --> 02:38:27,170
measure in the 1991 EIR, the impacts to the vegetation around the hatchery themselves.

931
02:38:28,970 --> 02:38:42,670
EIR did not require or an implement on the on-site mitigation at fish springs for the

932
02:38:42,670 --> 02:38:46,650
by the increased habitat in the lower end of the project.

933
02:38:46,950 --> 02:38:48,610
So that being over in Brazil for that right.

934
02:38:49,050 --> 02:38:53,930
So the increase in meadows preparing in March in the lower end of the project

935
02:38:53,930 --> 02:38:57,230
could be compensatory in education in the 90 on the IR.

936
02:38:57,870 --> 02:38:58,990
That's what the 90 on the IR.

937
02:38:59,230 --> 02:39:00,530
So John, do you want to go through it?

938
02:39:00,530 --> 02:39:02,010
Well, that would be a bit of a rough problem.

939
02:39:02,010 --> 02:39:03,970
I thought that was one of my next questions.

940
02:39:05,230 --> 02:39:06,030
I'll let you know.

941
02:39:10,350 --> 02:39:11,970
So hypothetically give us

942
02:39:11,970 --> 02:39:22,850
to be shut off completely, would the spring still be able to flow that they impact and buy all of the other wells?

943
02:39:24,230 --> 02:39:30,650
The best thing I can say is that when the spring flow, there was very little, almost nothing you could think, I'm well-feel.

944
02:39:31,310 --> 02:39:36,990
So if you, and the concern is that the existing other existing wells and the two add the hatchery,

945
02:39:36,990 --> 02:39:38,830
can also affect the spring flow.

946
02:39:39,230 --> 02:39:41,390
So, therefore, if you wanted to do storage components,

947
02:39:41,750 --> 02:39:43,850
you'd probably, most certain thing I could say,

948
02:39:44,130 --> 02:39:44,730
hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi, hi.

949
02:39:44,730 --> 02:39:46,310
Is that you have to shut off all of the wells?

950
02:39:47,110 --> 02:39:48,870
And it would take some time.

951
02:39:49,010 --> 02:39:50,950
I don't know exactly the number of,

952
02:39:50,950 --> 02:39:52,790
but it would take a few years, probably,

953
02:39:53,170 --> 02:39:53,890
for the spring flow.

954
02:39:55,150 --> 02:40:00,250
And just hydrologically, some springs don't come back

955
02:40:00,250 --> 02:40:01,630
after they're affected by pumping.

956
02:40:01,970 --> 02:40:05,490
This one is so large, maybe the underground plumbing

957
02:40:05,490 --> 02:40:07,750
is not going to affect it. Does the ground kind of settle?

958
02:40:07,970 --> 02:40:12,450
Yeah, the ground moves the carbonate collects things like that.

959
02:40:12,490 --> 02:40:14,550
Sometimes spring's no. So this is a large one.

960
02:40:14,730 --> 02:40:20,830
So it's a bit of a yes, but I wouldn't say it's sort of, but probably likely.

961
02:40:21,470 --> 02:40:25,950
But it would take while for if you shut up all the wells and you would take a while for

962
02:40:25,950 --> 02:40:31,950
or nearly all of the wells that take all of some time for the marble to basically rise

963
02:40:31,950 --> 02:40:36,630
of them there. So this charging at that point, you have to have a higher water

964
02:40:36,630 --> 02:40:39,630
fuel, that's pushing water out of the spring.

965
02:40:40,650 --> 02:40:44,550
You know what I'm saying, the proximity of the center of the

966
02:40:44,550 --> 02:40:50,850
lower volume, it's like the other volcanic, yes, to the strength of the

967
02:40:50,850 --> 02:40:54,490
us, that must have to fly. Right. That's why there's so big the volcanic

968
02:40:54,490 --> 02:40:59,190
operas in our valley of the most transmissive. They produce the most water

969
02:40:59,190 --> 02:41:05,270
or the flow allowed most, most highly conducted, if you know this most of our big screens

970
02:41:05,270 --> 02:41:10,710
were at kind of at the mouth or the toes of these photographs, big ceiling fish springs,

971
02:41:11,870 --> 02:41:18,430
right in that line, and then somewhere on other faults. So I'm not saying I won't

972
02:41:18,430 --> 02:41:22,770
flow if you shut up all the pumping in big time because it was such a large one, but this

973
02:41:22,770 --> 02:41:25,330
And it literally elsewhere, some other springs, I know,

974
02:41:25,770 --> 02:41:28,530
I turned off and tried to retrieve the hydrology

975
02:41:28,530 --> 02:41:30,090
and it didn't come back.

976
02:41:30,210 --> 02:41:32,930
I didn't need to worry at any time in any time, so.

977
02:41:36,790 --> 02:41:37,290
Let me go.

978
02:41:38,090 --> 02:41:40,670
Well, I suppose it depends on what the question is

979
02:41:40,670 --> 02:41:43,390
in terms of what we're looking at doing or what

980
02:41:43,390 --> 02:41:45,490
would be the next step in which project

981
02:41:45,490 --> 02:41:48,250
is it seems to be more than one possible project here.

982
02:41:48,870 --> 02:41:52,390
But the fish springs itself is part of the 90-91EIR,

983
02:41:52,390 --> 02:41:54,390
which was rolled into a long-term water agreement,

984
02:41:55,030 --> 02:41:57,670
which is a mitigation project that is now managed

985
02:41:57,670 --> 02:41:59,390
to do that system of the tech group,

986
02:41:59,530 --> 02:42:02,390
the standing committee approvals for any sort

987
02:42:02,390 --> 02:42:05,130
of modifications to a mitigation project.

988
02:42:05,390 --> 02:42:07,210
So we would have to run through that process

989
02:42:07,210 --> 02:42:11,770
if you wanted to actually modify the current

990
02:42:12,350 --> 02:42:15,470
patchary pumping, as it currently is aimed at.

991
02:42:16,930 --> 02:42:21,930
So but beyond that, it was something not to feel

992
02:42:23,030 --> 02:42:31,910
There would have to be some sort of agreement with LA, and I suppose the tribe, or whoever else was going to be up upon it for it, because it is LA's water, right?

993
02:42:33,590 --> 02:42:42,930
There would have to be a assuming conservation with the CBFW to make sure that any changes would affect the operations of the fish hatchery.

994
02:42:42,930 --> 02:42:48,690
And to the extent of the clinical projects that end up on any other federal land, we have to,

995
02:42:48,690 --> 02:42:55,610
obviously, coordinate with that federal land manager, there are also all sorts of things.

996
02:42:55,610 --> 02:42:57,610
I have a couple of comments.

997
02:42:58,370 --> 02:42:59,510
You have a question, you just.

998
02:43:01,490 --> 02:43:06,870
Well, I just, I think about the appropriate, just sort of relying on the board today,

999
02:43:07,030 --> 02:43:12,270
but what we're looking at is breaking together several agencies to work on a issue.

1000
02:43:12,930 --> 02:43:18,450
I don't think that today the tribe is asking your former supervisors to solve the problem

1001
02:43:18,450 --> 02:43:25,370
if they're asking for your support, obviously, but we do have other agencies that perhaps

1002
02:43:25,370 --> 02:43:30,350
have some advice to offer for the situation.

1003
02:43:31,890 --> 02:43:41,150
So, you know, I know that I didn't come before this war, it's generally the request to solve the problem

1004
02:43:41,150 --> 02:43:48,230
And then I don't, my understanding is that this is, you need that, you know,

1005
02:43:48,230 --> 02:43:52,350
trying to get together a lot of agencies to try to offer advice.

1006
02:43:53,450 --> 02:43:56,290
So that's a, I want to take some pressure on to you.

1007
02:43:56,290 --> 02:43:58,770
That's a perfect set of what you just trying to understand.

1008
02:44:00,070 --> 02:44:02,330
That was a perfect set of what I get that.

1009
02:44:03,130 --> 02:44:06,570
That was a perfect set of where you and the mic comment and that was that,

1010
02:44:06,570 --> 02:44:08,710
you know, to me, this is really exciting.

1011
02:44:09,510 --> 02:44:15,350
We've heard this before, you know, historically, about what can we do with the fish

1012
02:44:15,350 --> 02:44:15,890
ad tree.

1013
02:44:17,030 --> 02:44:20,730
And in the past, it's been shut it off or leave it off.

1014
02:44:21,530 --> 02:44:32,470
And so, you get the ecological circumstances that can happen if you just shut it off against,

1015
02:44:32,770 --> 02:44:38,270
you know, the necessary necessity of having fishing as a huge

1016
02:44:38,270 --> 02:44:41,270
economic impact to our entire economy.

1017
02:44:42,070 --> 02:44:45,230
So I think what's happened here is really exciting

1018
02:44:45,230 --> 02:44:50,270
because I want to thank the tribe for that presentation

1019
02:44:50,270 --> 02:44:53,270
because I think that's the first time we've heard

1020
02:44:54,050 --> 02:44:57,950
some of the comments about what we might do

1021
02:44:57,950 --> 02:44:59,850
to start making things better.

1022
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:03,600
Without the shut it off, or leave it on.

1023
02:45:04,140 --> 02:45:13,000
I think there's a lot of discussion and a lot as much smarter people and I am in the area about how we can actually make these things work.

1024
02:45:13,980 --> 02:45:27,800
But the advantage we have here is that you do have some cooperation from B2BP, from Fishing Day, for Fishing Wildlife, I'm sorry, I'm old, Fishing Wildlife, the Tribes, can't account.

1025
02:45:27,800 --> 02:45:33,220
And I think if we can work together, I think we can see some improvements.

1026
02:45:33,900 --> 02:45:40,420
Whether we saw this problem, I'm not sure the entire problem of whether we just shut

1027
02:45:40,420 --> 02:45:44,740
the water off and let the flows come back up.

1028
02:45:45,380 --> 02:45:47,380
But we need to help to thrive.

1029
02:45:48,300 --> 02:45:56,040
We need to help fish in wildlife, but be able to do what they do for us by raising fish,

1030
02:45:56,700 --> 02:46:00,400
even though you've got to figure out how to get them without being sick. I'm not sure

1031
02:46:00,400 --> 02:46:05,440
vaccinations are working. I know they're trying a lot of different things, but I

1032
02:46:05,440 --> 02:46:11,600
want to thank Sally, especially in the gentleman there, I think your report was

1033
02:46:11,600 --> 02:46:17,940
excellent and gave us that ability to sort of move forward without saying what we

1034
02:46:17,940 --> 02:46:23,640
can't do that because that'll give it that'll stop this end of it. So I really

1035
02:46:23,640 --> 02:46:29,480
think that I'm excited. I'm really excited. I don't get excited very often. I've been on this

1036
02:46:29,480 --> 02:46:35,760
border a long time. I've seen a lot of a lot of things coming up. This is exciting because I think

1037
02:46:35,760 --> 02:46:43,420
if we all keep working and don't stop working at it. I think we've got a really good chance of moving

1038
02:46:43,420 --> 02:46:50,180
forward and in being helpful to all the parties concerned.

1039
02:46:51,460 --> 02:46:58,900
So thank you guys very much for that report, and I think we can move forward from here.

1040
02:47:03,050 --> 02:47:03,330
Well said.

1041
02:47:03,910 --> 02:47:05,090
Yeah, I guess.

1042
02:47:05,590 --> 02:47:09,710
Yeah, no, the only thing I would say is, you know, I think that was well said.

1043
02:47:09,910 --> 02:47:10,150
Thank you.

1044
02:47:10,190 --> 02:47:15,370
I think you Leslie, like I said in the beginning, we're not going to solve this here today.

1045
02:47:15,370 --> 02:47:20,390
But what I like is that we've heard of vision, we've heard some ideas, and we have taken steps.

1046
02:47:20,550 --> 02:47:25,310
I mean, the tribe has brought forward ideas that now has the water department.

1047
02:47:26,570 --> 02:47:27,970
I think it's a very interesting game.

1048
02:47:27,970 --> 02:47:35,450
Fish and wildlife and DWP working on a solution for reducing the amount of pumping even if it is only 12%.

1049
02:47:35,450 --> 02:47:38,330
You know, just one thing I will take kind of go back to my comments earlier.

1050
02:47:38,710 --> 02:47:41,670
You know, and talking to people who are attending the meeting today,

1051
02:47:41,670 --> 02:47:45,670
Sierra Nevada Conservancy was one that was really inspiring with some of the nifwift funding

1052
02:47:45,670 --> 02:47:46,410
they have.

1053
02:47:47,470 --> 02:47:52,810
I've learned of a grant program through the American and the beautiful project program that

1054
02:47:52,810 --> 02:47:57,830
is being the Department of Interior, agriculture, commerce, and the Council of Environmental

1055
02:47:57,830 --> 02:48:03,030
Quality are being told to implement support, tribally-led conservation and restoration priorities.

1056
02:48:03,410 --> 02:48:08,070
I think there's grant monies available, and I just think now's the time to be finding

1057
02:48:08,070 --> 02:48:12,710
getting those grant monies but I sometimes I feel like the tribe might have the same problem we have

1058
02:48:12,710 --> 02:48:18,710
as a county. We don't have the capacity to manage a project and go after all the funding and carry

1059
02:48:18,710 --> 02:48:27,010
everything out. So that is one of my hope for goals here today is that we identify resources,

1060
02:48:27,290 --> 02:48:37,910
agencies, jurisdictions, elected officials who can say, I have a resource, I have a project or I

1061
02:48:37,910 --> 02:48:47,090
somebody because Jeff asked really good questions, but we need to get the answers too. So, that's all the same thing.

1062
02:48:47,570 --> 02:48:58,090
I'd like to say something else I'd like to put out since everyone doesn't have access to the participants that are on Zoom.

1063
02:48:58,090 --> 02:49:05,030
I just want to record, and everyone in the world will do have representatives from

1064
02:49:05,710 --> 02:49:06,550
the heart.

1065
02:49:07,630 --> 02:49:13,730
We have Cal EPA, we have the Office of the Department of Health, Health, Housing,

1066
02:49:14,530 --> 02:49:14,530
Assessment,

1067
02:49:16,590 --> 02:49:21,590
Department of Water Resources, the other type of DSR, and that we have some

1068
02:49:21,590 --> 02:49:25,710
representing us from the Department of Fish and Murals Life.

1069
02:49:26,190 --> 02:49:30,550
If some of them catheter's offices on the zoo,

1070
02:49:32,950 --> 02:49:36,390
they're, they'll feel, they'll represent you.

1071
02:49:36,390 --> 02:49:38,930
And Senator Kleinstein has established.

1072
02:49:39,510 --> 02:49:39,810
Does that mean?

1073
02:49:40,330 --> 02:49:41,920
And Sarah, the Vatican Servancy.

1074
02:49:42,910 --> 02:49:44,950
And so we've got some really,

1075
02:49:46,570 --> 02:49:50,830
powerful people that are interested in what's going on here.

1076
02:49:50,830 --> 02:49:57,650
congratulations for getting the representation and I also want to let you know so that

1077
02:49:57,650 --> 02:50:04,530
pressure calling for public partners, perhaps some of the people that might have less time

1078
02:50:04,530 --> 02:50:14,290
standing on the right one to go first from the zip. Yes, so I learned our comments from those agencies

1079
02:50:14,290 --> 02:50:15,430
to do right now.

1080
02:50:20,250 --> 02:50:20,910
Yeah, yeah.

1081
02:50:20,910 --> 02:50:23,490
Do you want to take me to raise very fast on talking to the function?

1082
02:50:23,930 --> 02:50:24,670
Yes, so we have power.

1083
02:50:25,010 --> 02:50:27,690
You know, so I've got some of those.

1084
02:50:28,790 --> 02:50:30,650
And I'll introduce some of those.

1085
02:50:31,630 --> 02:50:31,630
And

1086
02:50:37,130 --> 02:50:39,850
just so everybody knows that we have to.

1087
02:50:40,050 --> 02:50:41,230
We're going to turn.

1088
02:50:41,870 --> 02:50:44,170
Uh, the parking lot of fish entry and be there.

1089
02:50:44,230 --> 02:50:45,590
I want to buy to do that.

1090
02:50:45,730 --> 02:50:46,650
We need to.

1091
02:50:46,730 --> 02:50:48,290
I'll have a little bit of a lunch break and eat some

1092
02:50:48,290 --> 02:50:56,550
So the goal is to try to adjourn and hear a recess that we hear at a rallying.

1093
02:50:56,550 --> 02:51:02,670
And if I may interrupt, we had an attendee and she just emailed me that was trying that had hope to attend.

1094
02:51:02,830 --> 02:51:06,630
Actually, she says, I've already identified funding opportunities.

1095
02:51:07,690 --> 02:51:10,210
What are resources manager from the Bureau of Reclamation?

1096
02:51:11,650 --> 02:51:14,350
So I'll be sending her a recording of this.

1097
02:51:14,350 --> 02:51:32,910
So I'm sorry for my lack of a camera today. I'm Lauren Moncerot. I'm with Office of Environmental Health

1098
02:51:32,910 --> 02:51:39,110
Hazard Assessment, which is part of Cal EPA. And I just wanted to applaud the board for working

1099
02:51:39,110 --> 02:51:47,630
with the big pine piu tribe, this seems like a win-win project, and as we all know in government,

1100
02:51:48,490 --> 02:51:53,890
if money is the only object, this is certainly something that you can do. It's

1101
02:51:53,890 --> 02:52:02,410
great seeing Inyo County be a leader, both in the environmental field, as well as partnering with

1102
02:52:04,730 --> 02:52:07,410
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

1103
02:52:07,450 --> 02:52:09,450
Are you others? Yes, sir.

1104
02:52:12,280 --> 02:52:14,800
We're going to spend that out now.

1105
02:52:15,180 --> 02:52:16,540
There's something in the office.

1106
02:52:19,860 --> 02:52:20,380
If

1107
02:52:33,310 --> 02:52:35,370
I could just ask people who are attending,

1108
02:52:35,490 --> 02:52:37,430
I think we have most of everybody's context,

1109
02:52:37,690 --> 02:52:40,130
but we may not. If people.

1110
02:52:41,330 --> 02:52:41,990
If for some reason,

1111
02:52:42,130 --> 02:52:43,850
Darcy doesn't have your email address.

1112
02:52:44,130 --> 02:52:45,430
I'm hoping we have everybody.

1113
02:52:50,210 --> 02:52:52,830
Yeah, please, please email Darcy L.S.

1114
02:52:53,130 --> 02:53:00,650
It's D-E-L-L-I-S at NEOCounty.us because we want to be able to connect with you.

1115
02:53:02,350 --> 02:53:03,490
We're going to look.

1116
02:53:03,730 --> 02:53:04,970
That's already interesting.

1117
02:53:06,030 --> 02:53:06,870
Then go ahead.

1118
02:53:09,850 --> 02:53:11,590
Everyone, my name is Rachel Reyn.

1119
02:53:11,710 --> 02:53:13,050
I'm district director, First D.S.

1120
02:53:13,050 --> 02:53:15,750
Assemblyman Devin Mathis here in his vice-ellial office.

1121
02:53:15,790 --> 02:53:16,590
And this is Rosalina.

1122
02:53:16,890 --> 02:53:18,990
She's a field representative for the Assemblyman.

1123
02:53:18,990 --> 02:53:25,250
We just wanted to hop on and say hello and thank you for the invitation and thank you for all

1124
02:53:25,250 --> 02:53:31,650
the information and Darcy does have our contact info and so we hope that as things progress,

1125
02:53:31,970 --> 02:53:39,630
we can be of any support that we can so please don't hesitate to reach out and thank you for the

1126
02:53:39,630 --> 02:53:44,990
invitation today. Thank you, Rachel for attending and I just wanted to note, you know,

1127
02:53:44,990 --> 02:53:58,910
First of all, Assemblyman Mathis is on the select committee, you want to share that, and then also that you're connecting us with our, we're sad, we're going to listen to them, but, you're connecting us with our new Assembly member.

1128
02:53:59,830 --> 02:54:09,090
Yes, it's been a great opportunity for our office to be connected with in your county throughout the years. I've been here since 2018, and obviously Assemblyman has been here.

1129
02:54:09,090 --> 02:54:11,470
representative since 2014 and appreciated.

1130
02:54:12,210 --> 02:54:14,790
And the communication and good relationships we've had,

1131
02:54:15,010 --> 02:54:17,250
but with redistricting your new representative

1132
02:54:17,250 --> 02:54:22,110
will be Assemblymember Patterson out of the Fresno Clovis area.

1133
02:54:22,190 --> 02:54:26,870
And I have connected him with this information and his staff.

1134
02:54:27,330 --> 02:54:29,530
And so hopefully we'll continue to make those connections

1135
02:54:29,530 --> 02:54:30,970
as we move forward and starting

1136
02:54:30,970 --> 02:54:34,010
in January Assemblymember Patterson will be a representative.

1137
02:54:34,770 --> 02:54:38,210
And the Assemblymember does sit on quite a few committees

1138
02:54:38,210 --> 02:54:47,110
one being the select committee on Native American issues and so I'll definitely be bringing this

1139
02:54:47,110 --> 02:54:51,650
to his attention and be filling him in on everything that we've heard today.

1140
02:54:53,490 --> 02:54:58,870
Thank you. Thank you. Are there other agencies who want to make one of that show?

1141
02:55:09,040 --> 02:55:09,680
Where's

1142
02:55:09,680 --> 02:55:12,460
I will work for everybody for our speakers to be promoted.

1143
02:55:12,820 --> 02:55:15,440
I just wanted to put everyone down and apologize.

1144
02:55:15,780 --> 02:55:17,160
I have to leave it today.

1145
02:55:18,620 --> 02:55:20,100
So I apologize.

1146
02:55:20,620 --> 02:55:21,780
Great turns out.

1147
02:55:21,900 --> 02:55:23,100
Thanks everyone for getting in.

1148
02:55:23,360 --> 02:55:25,820
And I'm watching Darcy shuffle this background.

1149
02:55:26,900 --> 02:55:28,520
So she deserves an award.

1150
02:55:28,920 --> 02:55:29,100
Yeah.

1151
02:55:29,460 --> 02:55:29,840
Always.

1152
02:55:34,430 --> 02:55:35,390
Good morning.

1153
02:55:35,730 --> 02:55:36,030
Everybody.

1154
02:55:36,170 --> 02:55:38,270
Thank you for letting me join virtually.

1155
02:55:38,430 --> 02:55:41,610
My name is Bithub Ecker and I'm the deputy secretary for

1156
02:55:41,610 --> 02:55:45,170
environmental justice, tribal affairs, and border relations.

1157
02:55:45,750 --> 02:55:48,350
And this is a list of all the

1158
02:55:48,350 --> 02:55:50,630
boards, departments, and offices that make a

1159
02:55:50,630 --> 02:55:54,590
Taliban, you heard from Office of Environmental Health

1160
02:55:54,590 --> 02:55:57,510
has assessments earlier. I just wanted to bring to the

1161
02:55:57,510 --> 02:56:01,410
tribes' attention and perhaps the counties that

1162
02:56:01,410 --> 02:56:04,610
Taliban has what's called the environmental justice grants.

1163
02:56:05,470 --> 02:56:09,790
My email is shared if you could shoot me an email and I can get you

1164
02:56:09,790 --> 02:56:17,890
on a list that will alert you when the next round of applications goes live.

1165
02:56:19,050 --> 02:56:23,450
I think this was described as an environmental justice project.

1166
02:56:23,730 --> 02:56:24,810
I couldn't agree more.

1167
02:56:24,970 --> 02:56:27,450
So I wanted to make sure you knew about this potential grant opportunity.

1168
02:56:28,550 --> 02:56:29,870
Thank you again.

1169
02:56:30,610 --> 02:56:31,890
Thank you.

1170
02:56:35,520 --> 02:56:36,800
More and more others.

1171
02:56:44,760 --> 02:56:48,360
But the agency, everybody from agencies is.

1172
02:56:49,100 --> 02:56:52,080
Are there any agencies here that would like to speak?

1173
02:56:52,480 --> 02:56:52,920
Yeah, thank you.

1174
02:56:53,020 --> 02:56:54,660
We have our air pollution control officer.

1175
02:56:54,800 --> 02:56:56,740
Thank you for joining us today.

1176
02:56:57,920 --> 02:56:58,960
And that was the.

1177
02:57:00,160 --> 02:57:01,640
Well, you're a water officer.

1178
02:57:03,440 --> 02:57:04,400
Good morning.

1179
02:57:04,720 --> 02:57:08,480
So to do air pollution control officer for the Great Missing Unified air pollution control district.

1180
02:57:08,480 --> 02:57:12,500
And I would like to reiterate, it is exciting.

1181
02:57:13,240 --> 02:57:16,900
I think everybody knows that water and air are inextricably connected.

1182
02:57:18,040 --> 02:57:21,980
And any reduction in exports or recovery in groundwater,

1183
02:57:22,880 --> 02:57:25,180
and vegetation enhancement and ecological restoration,

1184
02:57:26,400 --> 02:57:31,000
only conserve to benefit our quality and enhance that for our public health.

1185
02:57:31,680 --> 02:57:32,200
So, exciting.

1186
02:57:33,540 --> 02:57:34,300
Thank you, Michelle.

1187
02:57:45,660 --> 02:57:49,080
I'm a great happy stock. I'm the archaeologist from the Bureau of Land Management and the Bishop

1188
02:57:49,580 --> 02:57:54,400
Philophis. I guess I'm going to cover my end because we had the water already talked about.

1189
02:57:54,960 --> 02:58:00,740
We just got air. We are excited. We are a land owner or land manager, I should say.

1190
02:58:00,920 --> 02:58:07,300
We have to be American people. And this pond was raised to my attention a few years ago in

1191
02:58:07,300 --> 02:58:12,360
consultation. And I know that it plays a very important role in big fine tribes recent

1192
02:58:12,920 --> 02:58:19,460
And it actually could be potentially a traditional cultural property and we're actually exploring that opportunity now.

1193
02:58:19,820 --> 02:58:22,260
So we want to add our advice, our support for this.

1194
02:58:22,380 --> 02:58:27,760
We also are excited and we hope to see some progress as we move forward.

1195
02:58:27,920 --> 02:58:28,940
I'll explain these options.

1196
02:58:29,680 --> 02:58:30,180
Thank you.

1197
02:58:30,340 --> 02:58:31,520
Thank you.

1198
02:58:38,370 --> 02:58:39,130
Do you have some others?

1199
02:58:42,010 --> 02:58:42,490
Yes.

1200
02:58:43,770 --> 02:58:44,350
I don't know.

1201
02:58:44,350 --> 02:58:44,550
I don't know.

1202
02:58:44,550 --> 02:58:45,350
I do have one time rates.

1203
02:58:46,390 --> 02:58:46,470
Thank you.

1204
02:58:46,690 --> 02:58:50,250
Center for the five there by people from the public.

1205
02:58:50,850 --> 02:58:52,710
I'm very happy you have one first.

1206
02:58:52,910 --> 02:58:54,130
I'm very about.

1207
02:59:02,920 --> 02:59:04,240
Monahue, good afternoon.

1208
02:59:04,580 --> 02:59:05,620
I'll talk to you.

1209
02:59:05,680 --> 02:59:09,300
I'm a editor in the executive director of the Elinceli

1210
02:59:09,300 --> 02:59:10,260
Indian Water Commission.

1211
02:59:10,520 --> 02:59:12,560
We're also serving on the Indian County Water

1212
02:59:12,560 --> 02:59:13,040
Commission.

1213
02:59:13,800 --> 02:59:18,020
So I'm so happy to hear that everybody is excited about

1214
02:59:18,020 --> 02:59:18,840
this project.

1215
02:59:18,980 --> 02:59:19,940
I'm super excited.

1216
02:59:20,140 --> 02:59:23,300
This is the first time in a long time that I think we

1217
02:59:23,300 --> 02:59:29,020
have had an opportunity to make some real changes that's going to have an impact the positive impact

1218
02:59:29,020 --> 02:59:37,080
to our environment, to the ecology, create new habitat. I really believe in my heart that

1219
02:59:37,080 --> 02:59:42,800
looking at ways to spread that water, whether it's in a pond or near the spring or whatever that

1220
02:59:42,800 --> 02:59:49,360
happens to be is going to be a huge win for our valley here, for the people, for the animals,

1221
02:59:49,360 --> 02:59:56,140
for the plants. And I think we've made so much progress and what I've heard from different agencies

1222
02:59:56,620 --> 02:59:59,980
and entities that are involved in this that they want to see this go for.

1223
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:06,300
And I would encourage you guys to help make that happen. I also want to remind you that in the long-term

1224
03:00:06,300 --> 03:00:12,960
groundwater agreement, we're currently looking at changing a mitigation project. And that's moving

1225
03:00:12,960 --> 03:00:20,100
water over to the five bridges area. So we can change a mitigation, you know, in one way we can

1226
03:00:20,100 --> 03:00:26,040
make changes for another mitigation projects. There's mechanisms to make that happen. We just need,

1227
03:00:26,040 --> 03:00:32,000
of the parties involved. And as far as the grant money and the people, you know, overseeing that,

1228
03:00:32,000 --> 03:00:37,680
you know, that can happen. You can pay, you can get money to pay people to help manage this.

1229
03:00:37,880 --> 03:00:42,600
And another card can do it. You know, auto organization can do it. The county, there's other

1230
03:00:42,600 --> 03:00:47,860
opportunities. So I really want to see this go forward. And I'm so excited about the opportunity

1231
03:00:47,860 --> 03:00:53,540
that we have to make some really good changes and have a project that's actually going to do

1232
03:00:53,540 --> 03:00:59,760
benefit rather than pumping to mitigate damages caused by pumping. Thank you.

1233
03:01:08,980 --> 03:01:15,240
Joining us via zoom is Danny McLeard from a hot tuned water quality control board.

1234
03:01:16,940 --> 03:01:24,880
Hi. Good morning and I just wanted to say thanks for the inviting us to this. This was a very informative

1235
03:01:27,220 --> 03:01:33,300
And the Han Lord Ward is very interested in doing what we can to support this.

1236
03:01:33,760 --> 03:01:41,400
And there's a tie-in to a couple of things that Han Lord Ward is working on right now.

1237
03:01:41,580 --> 03:01:47,960
One is we're beginning the process of talking to tribes about designating tribal benefits.

1238
03:01:47,960 --> 03:01:57,260
uses within our water quality standards. And so we had a meeting about that as some of, and

1239
03:01:57,260 --> 03:02:02,480
and so this, it was sort of just beginning that process and this ties could be a good

1240
03:02:02,480 --> 03:02:08,220
time to that. So it was very informative for us to hear about this. And we also

1241
03:02:09,040 --> 03:02:17,680
have permits on the fish hatchery to address any water quality impacts. So there could be additional water

1242
03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:20,500
quality benefits to this project moving forward.

1243
03:02:21,000 --> 03:02:25,140
So I just wanted to say thanks to,

1244
03:02:25,360 --> 03:02:27,360
especially to, you know, the county and the tribe

1245
03:02:27,360 --> 03:02:31,440
and Department of Fish and Wildlife for the very informative presentations.

1246
03:02:31,680 --> 03:02:36,460
And we look forward to supporting this moving forward.

1247
03:02:38,600 --> 03:02:39,260
Thank you.

1248
03:02:39,600 --> 03:02:42,680
There was one more hand raised version of the set.

1249
03:02:44,440 --> 03:02:46,260
Yes, we had Sylva Blackstone.

1250
03:02:47,000 --> 03:02:48,400
She can hang out.

1251
03:02:50,480 --> 03:02:52,600
We have

1252
03:03:08,600 --> 03:03:10,600
someone else that I'll take in the meantime.

1253
03:03:11,120 --> 03:03:11,680
But thank you.

1254
03:03:11,680 --> 03:03:13,900
The person is identified as jury.

1255
03:03:14,660 --> 03:03:15,260
Yep.

1256
03:03:16,060 --> 03:03:16,840
What that?

1257
03:03:17,280 --> 03:03:17,780
Hi.

1258
03:03:18,660 --> 03:03:21,940
Thanks for inviting me here.

1259
03:03:22,100 --> 03:03:23,880
I'm a police doc at UCLA.

1260
03:03:24,440 --> 03:03:25,560
I'm interested in.

1261
03:03:26,160 --> 03:03:28,760
I study water quality in wetland.

1262
03:03:29,260 --> 03:03:30,720
I'm spring geochemistry.

1263
03:03:31,240 --> 03:03:34,660
I'm really interested in the potential.

1264
03:03:34,660 --> 03:03:45,700
So what when mitigation and reduced for use for cycle sort of policy framework that has been introduced today. So thank you for sharing that.

1265
03:03:46,680 --> 03:03:52,920
And yeah, I just wanted to introduce myself and say thank you for hosting this. This is really interesting and informative.

1266
03:03:54,420 --> 03:03:57,300
Thank you for joining us.

1267
03:03:57,300 --> 03:04:00,300
And this is that the other person who is.

1268
03:04:01,260 --> 03:04:03,460
Ms. Blackstone, can you put your.

1269
03:04:17,060 --> 03:04:22,560
All right, this is an exciting project for a series of projects.

1270
03:04:23,300 --> 03:04:30,860
One of those times that the outcomes of the basic projects probably are not in much

1271
03:04:30,860 --> 03:04:33,660
disagreeing with anybody. We want to have these things done.

1272
03:04:33,660 --> 03:04:40,180
If we object to get them done, there may be barriers that some groups or someone will be putting up.

1273
03:04:40,200 --> 03:04:47,440
Our job is to see if we can work our way through those barriers to make these good projects happen.

1274
03:04:48,140 --> 03:04:50,900
Mr. Chair, some of the box done is now ready to speak.

1275
03:04:53,000 --> 03:04:54,300
Hello, can you hear me?

1276
03:04:54,540 --> 03:05:01,400
Yes, thank you. Great. I'm from Los Angeles, the Los Angeles area, a native of Los Angeles.

1277
03:05:01,400 --> 03:05:05,200
And my grandfather worked for the Bureau of Reclamation.

1278
03:05:07,120 --> 03:05:11,000
I was in the 1900s, and I don't.

1279
03:05:11,660 --> 03:05:13,380
So I have his notebooks.

1280
03:05:13,820 --> 03:05:16,240
He was basically a scientist.

1281
03:05:17,020 --> 03:05:24,040
It's very interesting to imagine what data manipulation could do at that time.

1282
03:05:24,040 --> 03:05:41,200
Anyway, I'm wondering, what is the benefit to the ecology of the region to have these foreign fish introduced into the ecosystem there?

1283
03:05:41,520 --> 03:05:43,500
What is the benefit to the ecology?

1284
03:05:46,840 --> 03:05:53,100
And that is certainly a topic that's had lots of discretion and not a topic for

1285
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:55,040
what we're dealing with at this point.

1286
03:05:55,200 --> 03:05:57,780
Just actually it's here to continue to be here.

1287
03:05:58,780 --> 03:06:00,460
Some of y'all want to take that up to me.

1288
03:06:00,860 --> 03:06:02,780
That's a topic for different people.

1289
03:06:03,700 --> 03:06:08,320
I don't see that we have an expert online that can answer that question right at the moment.

1290
03:06:09,020 --> 03:06:13,780
If you'd like to email me and put you in touch with someone that can answer that.

1291
03:06:13,780 --> 03:06:16,790
Yeah, who were the native fish there?

1292
03:06:17,700 --> 03:06:18,780
Are they still there?

1293
03:06:20,140 --> 03:06:22,700
Again, that's a question that we don't have the expertise

1294
03:06:22,700 --> 03:06:24,680
to answer at this current meeting.

1295
03:06:25,480 --> 03:06:28,860
So I recommend that you email our board clerk and both of you

1296
03:06:28,860 --> 03:06:30,780
up to someone who can answer it.

1297
03:06:31,000 --> 03:06:32,000
All right, thank you.

1298
03:06:32,080 --> 03:06:32,780
Thank you.

1299
03:06:34,140 --> 03:06:34,760
Thank you.

1300
03:06:34,760 --> 03:06:35,400
Any other questions?

1301
03:06:36,920 --> 03:06:37,700
Not at this point.

1302
03:06:45,850 --> 03:06:53,430
I just wanted to give a couple of things, I want to thank the board, all you all, and

1303
03:06:53,430 --> 03:06:59,950
Matt, you know what I'm like, and especially thanks to Jack, you know, putting this

1304
03:06:59,950 --> 03:07:05,770
help, you know, performin' it together, Leslie, Garcia, and John, I know you were a big part

1305
03:07:05,770 --> 03:07:06,590
of this as well.

1306
03:07:06,590 --> 03:07:12,970
this is touching how it's got emotional just hearing people speak up about this I've

1307
03:07:12,970 --> 03:07:17,250
been bringing it up I think every year since you guys know we're great so I've been doing

1308
03:07:17,250 --> 03:07:22,290
this for nine years I've been a part of the water operator for the big point by you try

1309
03:07:22,290 --> 03:07:28,830
I've been on my left and onto a few boards for my try and remember and I set up a couple boards

1310
03:07:28,830 --> 03:07:32,050
the non-none data site as well.

1311
03:07:32,670 --> 03:07:36,930
So I just want to thank special thanks to Sally and Noah.

1312
03:07:38,430 --> 03:07:41,170
We've been, like I said, we've been bringing this up every year.

1313
03:07:41,350 --> 03:07:45,170
I know past Supervisor says, you know, big fine is taking it on the chin.

1314
03:07:45,750 --> 03:07:50,710
And it was really not, but at that time, you know, like Rick, you've been there, you said,

1315
03:07:50,910 --> 03:07:53,910
it's either on or off, and there was like no in between it.

1316
03:07:53,970 --> 03:07:57,690
You know, you know, the track, but I want to see the fish stop.

1317
03:07:57,690 --> 03:08:03,810
Well, we just want to see, you know, it's impacting that, that this brings actually

1318
03:08:03,810 --> 03:08:09,550
is impacting, you see how far is going up, Sally's short of a presentation, but on

1319
03:08:09,550 --> 03:08:17,090
the reservation is what we have 100 foot groundwater death and some locations, and that is

1320
03:08:17,090 --> 03:08:24,390
because of those excess pumping, so it's kind of unfortunate that, you know, a lot of people are

1321
03:08:24,390 --> 03:08:29,250
suffering because of this because of course we do love the fish, we love the economy, you

1322
03:08:29,250 --> 03:08:35,090
know it's a economic you know thing for for the county and I think now it's to the

1323
03:08:35,090 --> 03:08:41,370
point where the desecration and the environmental injustice has really yet that it's

1324
03:08:41,370 --> 03:08:47,150
point to where it's it's definitely known on wind events now there's just

1325
03:08:47,150 --> 03:08:51,670
just going over there because there's no vegetation there's no groundwater and I think

1326
03:08:51,670 --> 03:08:58,030
you are obviously seeing in four months and eight point five feet recovery and some of the

1327
03:08:58,030 --> 03:08:59,330
aquifers is a

1328
03:08:59,870 --> 03:09:01,870
tremendous and I think that

1329
03:09:02,550 --> 03:09:11,010
You know us coming together and not blame each other but working with each other and I can a cooperative manner and trying to you know

1330
03:09:11,010 --> 03:09:19,150
See what the best way to alleviate this. I know this is an emotional spot for me because that's for my family comes from the same as Noah

1331
03:09:20,570 --> 03:09:25,050
So I know that my family used to, you know, do their ceremonial, you know,

1332
03:09:25,150 --> 03:09:28,090
cleansing, different things, you know, in that spring.

1333
03:09:28,730 --> 03:09:32,310
And so I just want to thank everybody of the agencies as well for coming out.

1334
03:09:32,450 --> 03:09:35,770
The people that showed up, I, you know, I came out.

1335
03:09:36,970 --> 03:09:40,490
I care about this and why I care about people.

1336
03:09:41,650 --> 03:09:43,970
And I think it's, this is good to see.

1337
03:09:44,190 --> 03:09:45,210
So thank you, dear.

1338
03:09:45,210 --> 03:09:46,210
Thank you.

1339
03:09:53,040 --> 03:09:53,340
Thank you.

1340
03:09:53,340 --> 03:09:56,280
Thank you for pushing this over the years, and obviously we wanted to.

1341
03:09:56,280 --> 03:09:59,440
The only important, we'll use it, mine.

1342
03:09:59,900 --> 03:10:04,900
This change happens slowly, but only when a few good people work hard to make it happen quickly.

1343
03:10:05,460 --> 03:10:06,620
You will wear those good things.

1344
03:10:07,760 --> 03:10:08,360
With that.

1345
03:10:08,520 --> 03:10:10,540
I'm just sure I didn't like to mention.

1346
03:10:11,780 --> 03:10:12,260
Yeah, go ahead.

1347
03:10:13,920 --> 03:10:18,460
I did like to mention that there are representatives from DWP on the zoo.

1348
03:10:18,460 --> 03:10:23,100
Also, if any of you from DWK would like to make a comment,

1349
03:10:25,240 --> 03:10:28,140
I apologize for this in you on my first house through.

1350
03:10:32,710 --> 03:10:35,070
Well, there are the WP people who would like to make a comment.

1351
03:10:35,190 --> 03:10:36,670
Please raise your hands now.

1352
03:10:36,890 --> 03:10:40,610
We have had them for us being promoted as a chief.

1353
03:10:40,690 --> 03:10:41,210
Thank you.

1354
03:11:04,720 --> 03:11:06,680
I'm going to be able to hear it.

1355
03:11:07,220 --> 03:11:07,420
Yes.

1356
03:11:08,220 --> 03:11:09,080
Oh, you hear me?

1357
03:11:09,320 --> 03:11:09,480
Yes.

1358
03:11:09,860 --> 03:11:09,980
Yes.

1359
03:11:11,260 --> 03:11:12,140
Very, very, very good.

1360
03:11:12,140 --> 03:11:12,740
Thank you.

1361
03:11:12,740 --> 03:11:26,220
Leslie, no problem. I did, I did catch that. I know there was several of us on, so I appreciate you, given the opportunity for us to speak.

1362
03:11:27,180 --> 03:11:37,000
You know, I want to first thank, you know, Noah and Sally for a good great presentation and also CDFW for their presentation as well.

1363
03:11:37,000 --> 03:11:42,960
I think overall, the message that we have right now is that we're working very closely with CDFW.

1364
03:11:43,120 --> 03:11:50,080
We talked about the 12% reduction in the overall amount of water production there out of the big kind of wealth field.

1365
03:11:51,100 --> 03:11:52,740
That's going well at this point.

1366
03:11:52,740 --> 03:11:59,940
We, you know, efforts from DWP, it's over 150 hours worth of, of, of, of, of engineering

1367
03:11:59,940 --> 03:12:06,360
time of time with, with, with the water mechanics at of independence to try to resolve

1368
03:12:06,360 --> 03:12:12,620
kind of the overall question seed of W for, you know, the reduction in pumping to, but still

1369
03:12:12,620 --> 03:12:15,940
allow for productions and green of fish.

1370
03:12:16,080 --> 03:12:18,140
And so we worked kind of close with that.

1371
03:12:18,140 --> 03:12:25,780
done three different pump tests out there and just really supporting that and that came through with

1372
03:12:25,780 --> 03:12:32,820
some great discussions that we had with with C2FW with with the Heidi Calvert about, you know,

1373
03:12:33,040 --> 03:12:40,240
kind of what role that that didn't peak and help out with this reduction and we have offered that.

1374
03:12:40,680 --> 03:12:45,320
So that that information has been provided to C2FW. At this point, I talked to Heidi last week

1375
03:12:45,320 --> 03:13:03,600
It looks like they're going through some of the funding decisions, and they look like going into next fiscal year, they should be able to work on bringing in those, those vows to go over all and and reduce some of those.

1376
03:13:03,600 --> 03:13:06,560
that information or that pumping number.

1377
03:13:06,780 --> 03:13:07,980
So that's going well.

1378
03:13:08,680 --> 03:13:13,220
Overall, you know, we're talking about the pumping

1379
03:13:13,220 --> 03:13:15,440
and what's going on.

1380
03:13:15,820 --> 03:13:19,600
I think, you know, kind of catching that discussion between

1381
03:13:19,600 --> 03:13:23,680
County Council with Mr. Relay Ho and also with the doctor here

1382
03:13:23,680 --> 03:13:28,520
on Stionwan in regards to, you know, this issue here and how

1383
03:13:28,520 --> 03:13:29,340
we're managing this.

1384
03:13:29,340 --> 03:13:37,460
Well, water and with civil intelligence and in your county are discussed within the

1385
03:13:37,460 --> 03:13:37,860
standing committee.

1386
03:13:38,040 --> 03:13:43,340
I think that's, we have a process for that with representatives from both sides and we discussed

1387
03:13:43,340 --> 03:13:46,560
those things and I think that was brought up by county council.

1388
03:13:47,320 --> 03:13:53,820
And also for mitigation that right now for the areas for around the springs.

1389
03:13:53,880 --> 03:13:58,420
We talked about the water, the pump water and how that's mitigation for the spring.

1390
03:13:58,420 --> 03:14:04,560
and then also talked about, you know, just the metals and areas around that, that was all taken up

1391
03:14:04,560 --> 03:14:10,020
within the InULA agreement as part of the Lord mitigation, as Dr. Steinwann brought up as well.

1392
03:14:10,800 --> 03:14:17,340
So all of those things are out there. You know, those things have been discussed way before me,

1393
03:14:18,200 --> 03:14:28,400
before you got hired on with the WP, those have been going on for a long, long time in terms of

1394
03:14:29,140 --> 03:14:56,460
discussions moving forward with this, but those things would have to be brought forth within the process that we currently have with an e-mail a agreement and, you know, and based on, you know, the leadership that will have from the supervisors as well as with my board of art commissioners, we could then see how we can move some of these ideas forward. So that's, that's overall kind of the overall thoughts and comments that I have related to this issue.

1395
03:14:58,440 --> 03:14:59,980
Thank you for your input. Thank you.

1396
03:15:01,420 --> 03:15:28,520
I'd just go one comment. That is, I want to thank everybody once again. You gave credibility to my excite. When I said it was excited in the beginning. Sometimes I get excited and, you know, it's like, oh, yeah, right. So, but I think we need more than just excitement. We need to walk our path. And Paul and I have been, we know each other for a long time. I've got a total of respect for Paul.

1397
03:15:29,520 --> 03:15:39,760
And Sally, we haven't always agreed, and the reason we haven't always agreed is because, you know, it takes movement to get from point A to point B.

1398
03:15:40,140 --> 03:15:44,600
I mean, we can pot a lot, everybody can give the big group big hooks.

1399
03:15:45,300 --> 03:15:47,680
But now it's time to actually make some movement.

1400
03:15:48,260 --> 03:15:49,740
And I think we can do it.

1401
03:15:49,820 --> 03:15:53,760
I think on this project, for example, I think we can actually make some movement.

1402
03:15:53,760 --> 03:15:56,500
And that's going to influence other projects.

1403
03:15:57,060 --> 03:15:58,760
I think somebody else mentioned it.

1404
03:15:59,320 --> 03:16:00,220
Maybe it was Terry.

1405
03:16:00,940 --> 03:16:04,100
We got a mitigation measures and we had a work on it.

1406
03:16:04,320 --> 03:16:05,420
And let's make them work.

1407
03:16:05,500 --> 03:16:10,020
Let's not just scream at each other because it doesn't do that much yet.

1408
03:16:10,320 --> 03:16:11,940
We actually need to make some movement.

1409
03:16:12,680 --> 03:16:14,460
And I think this is a great start.

1410
03:16:15,980 --> 03:16:19,240
I heard excitement from people that I didn't even know.

1411
03:16:19,720 --> 03:16:20,760
So I'm glad they're excited.

1412
03:16:22,340 --> 03:16:25,940
So thanks again, guys, I think this is the way to do it.

1413
03:16:26,100 --> 03:16:31,040
It's the way to move forward, and now we actually have to make some move.

1414
03:16:33,160 --> 03:16:39,160
All you taught me, you taught me well, the other day enough.

1415
03:16:40,440 --> 03:16:40,840
Read over there.

1416
03:16:41,100 --> 03:16:42,100
Any other comments?

1417
03:16:43,300 --> 03:16:44,980
No, no, Mr. Chair.

1418
03:16:45,260 --> 03:16:46,460
Any other comments from the board?

1419
03:16:47,620 --> 03:16:56,400
I'd like to invite Sally or no, or if you'd have come up and give us some details of the logistics of the field trip.

1420
03:16:58,300 --> 03:17:02,860
Or I can also do more details of headquarters.

1421
03:17:06,140 --> 03:17:09,640
They're also, sorry, they have been comments from the audience here,

1422
03:17:13,700 --> 03:17:14,920
but

1423
03:17:14,920 --> 03:17:20,480
to get there from here. First of all, you may want to grab something to eat because there

1424
03:17:20,480 --> 03:17:25,960
are no restaurants between the fish hatchery, which is south of the town of Big Pine.

1425
03:17:26,880 --> 03:17:32,380
You want to go over the poverty hills and turn left on south of the fish screens road and

1426
03:17:32,380 --> 03:17:38,620
continue up that road for about a mile and a half. And there's a sign showing where the

1427
03:17:38,620 --> 03:17:40,600
on the left-hand side.

1428
03:17:41,340 --> 03:17:44,560
When we get there, we should have some shade structures set up

1429
03:17:44,560 --> 03:17:46,400
in the parking lot, hopefully some drinks,

1430
03:17:47,060 --> 03:17:50,420
and you will want to wear a hat since sunscreen

1431
03:17:50,420 --> 03:17:54,060
and from there, we'll have a discussion

1432
03:17:54,060 --> 03:17:56,680
inside who wants to continue on,

1433
03:17:56,820 --> 03:17:58,980
because we're not getting a tour of the hat tree.

1434
03:18:00,320 --> 03:18:03,300
Because of the recent outbreak of this lack of caucus,

1435
03:18:03,660 --> 03:18:06,300
they are taking steps to feel with that,

1436
03:18:06,300 --> 03:18:08,520
And I don't think they want us in their way.

1437
03:18:09,380 --> 03:18:10,900
And that's why they present virtually.

1438
03:18:11,560 --> 03:18:15,100
So what we could do is go south of the hatchery

1439
03:18:15,100 --> 03:18:17,760
and go over towards that five-acre pond area

1440
03:18:17,760 --> 03:18:21,840
and take a look at that and talk about these options

1441
03:18:21,840 --> 03:18:25,140
and a little more detail for whoever wants to do that.

1442
03:18:26,200 --> 03:18:27,620
And I'm pretty sure you'll be chairing

1443
03:18:27,620 --> 03:18:29,000
and I'm chairing whatever.

1444
03:18:30,060 --> 03:18:32,020
The chairing and the meeting from the parking lot,

1445
03:18:32,120 --> 03:18:32,820
we get there.

1446
03:18:33,220 --> 03:18:34,340
Good question, see you later.

1447
03:18:35,360 --> 03:18:46,580
You know, I just wanted to say, you know, thank you to Fish and Wildlife for even though the seller referred to the actions going on, making the parking lot available for us to kind of base out up. So thank you guys.

1448
03:18:46,920 --> 03:18:49,500
Appreciate what you've done. Appreciate having you here.

1449
03:18:49,980 --> 03:18:57,220
Not an easy time, you know, so anyway, I know Mr. Chair, you wanted to adjourn and then reconvene in the parking lot as that results.

1450
03:18:57,220 --> 03:19:01,300
Yeah, I believe that we missed, I know we missed at least one public comment.

1451
03:19:01,440 --> 03:19:02,180
Oh, right, marginalized.

1452
03:19:02,720 --> 03:19:04,200
I saw some houses over here.

1453
03:19:04,200 --> 03:19:04,540
Yeah.

1454
03:19:04,540 --> 03:19:05,360
That was your opportunity.

1455
03:19:05,880 --> 03:19:06,080
Yes.

1456
03:19:07,100 --> 03:19:08,720
Thank you.

1457
03:19:08,720 --> 03:19:10,060
This is very brief.

1458
03:19:10,540 --> 03:19:11,080
I'm a student.

1459
03:19:11,540 --> 03:19:13,420
I'm very interested in it.

1460
03:19:13,600 --> 03:19:15,600
I heard an agriculture here.

1461
03:19:15,900 --> 03:19:16,340
And right.

1462
03:19:19,850 --> 03:19:20,310
Very grave.

1463
03:19:20,530 --> 03:19:25,330
I just wanted to mention the names of the four native fish.

1464
03:19:28,800 --> 03:19:29,280
I

1465
03:19:32,260 --> 03:19:34,160
was hoping that we should.

1466
03:19:34,160 --> 03:19:36,780
from fish and water.

1467
03:19:38,320 --> 03:19:42,640
I was a one-spot fish, a one-spot-per-per-per-per-per.

1468
03:19:42,640 --> 03:19:46,400
I was two-jump and one-spot-pits.

1469
03:19:47,420 --> 03:19:49,560
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1470
03:19:50,860 --> 03:19:56,940
I think I was probably talking about it.

1471
03:19:59,180 --> 03:20:00,100
Same thing.

1472
03:20:01,460 --> 03:20:09,100
So I know it's just me of one, but maybe if we twist it the 115, that would fit into the time to grab a little 50, that's it.

1473
03:20:10,260 --> 03:20:14,440
Is there any problem or just simply if we do that?

1474
03:20:14,860 --> 03:20:18,760
Okay, moving to 115, not 116.

1475
03:20:20,620 --> 03:20:25,560
There might be people that are trying, if they're planning to do the tour that are not here today.

1476
03:20:26,140 --> 03:20:30,060
So if we could have someone, I'll be there, I'll get there.

1477
03:20:30,360 --> 03:20:31,180
Okay, that's great.

1478
03:20:31,220 --> 03:20:32,620
Thank you.

1479
03:20:33,640 --> 03:20:37,700
So if I send you no more public coming up here or on the computer,

1480
03:20:37,880 --> 03:20:43,060
if you're not on the computer, we will recess our DNA here.

1481
03:20:44,700 --> 03:20:44,880
All right.

1482
03:20:45,120 --> 03:20:48,160
So recess our DNA and we'll reconvene out.

1483
03:20:48,240 --> 03:20:50,400
One 15 parking lot is Christian.

1484
03:20:50,400 --> 03:20:50,760
Thank you.

1485
03:20:51,240 --> 03:20:51,940
Thank you.

1486
03:20:57,350 --> 03:20:58,910
Thank you.