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i'd like to call to order the city

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council committee meeting for

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monday

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june 22nd

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tuesday june 22nd

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21st

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we have a couple of presentations

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uh first by

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commissioner ferrari

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2021

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audit

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i like to present uh

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john kofloski a partner at uh our uh

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independent auditor company kuzak and

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company uh explained the audit of the

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city of schenectady for uh uh

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2021.

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thanks tony uh thank you everybody for

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having me here tonight i wanted to start

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off just by saying thank you to tony and

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the rest of your staff here at the city

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for everything they do during the audit

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and especially to liz nelson who's our

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primary contact during the audit we

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really appreciate everything that they

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do to help us out during all the time

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you have great staff here very helpful

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with all of our requests and i just

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wanted to extend my appreciation to them

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um our ultimate responsibility during

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the audit is to review your financial

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statements and issue an opinion on your

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financial statements as to whether

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they're materially stated and combined

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with generally accepted accounting

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principles otherwise known as get

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our audit takes place in three main

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phases the first main phase is our

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pre-audit phase this takes place during

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december and what we're doing during

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this phase is we're reviewing your

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internal control systems we're testing

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those internal control systems we

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perform preliminary variance and budget

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analysis we do the council minutes and

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we also go through our own internal risk

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assessment procedures

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the next major phase of our audit is

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fieldwork this takes place in march what

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we're doing during this phase is we're

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taking the information that we obtained

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during our pre-owned phase we're using

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that to develop our audit programs which

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we use to test our final year imbalances

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and determine whether the feel the

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material is stated or not

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so the final phase of our audit is our

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reporting phase during this phase what

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we're doing is we're reviewing the

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financial statements that are prepared

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by your senior accountant and we're also

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reporting on the final results

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so the financial statements that you

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have in front of you are a 76-page

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document overall and it's comprised of

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several major parts

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first major part is going to be your

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management's discussion and analysis

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that's on pages one through eight of

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your statements

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this is a required but unaudited section

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of the financial statements

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it summarizes your operating results and

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other financial highlights if you're not

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familiar with the financial statements

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in general i always like to tell the

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clients it's a really good reading gives

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you a top side summary of what happened

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during the year

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through eleven of your financial

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statements this is the independent

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orders report

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um this is where we issued our

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next section

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the draft

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so pages 9-11 is your independent voters

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report this is where we issue our

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opinion on the financial statements

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one important item to note on your

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financial case these are presented at

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the fund and account group level only

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exclusive of your non-current

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governmental asset account group

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i am pleased to say that we've once

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again issued an unmodified opinion on

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your financial statements this is the

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highest level of insurance that we can

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give you it's considered a clean report

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we have no reportable issues and no

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financial aid

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pages 12 through 14 these are

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governmental fund balance sheets

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statement revenues expenditures and

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changes in fund balance

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your approximated operating results for

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the year ended 2021

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general fund had a surplus of 5.6

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million dollars

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water fund had a deficiency of 57 000

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sewer fund had a deficiency of 745 000

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primarily because of the use of your

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capital reserves

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recreation fund had a surplus of 84 000

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special grants and special revenue

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deficiency of 5 000 and your capital

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projects had a surplus of 7.3 million

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that was primarily due to proceeds from

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your cereal bond and issuance of ban

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redemptions

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so the contributing factors to your

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overall surplus and the general fund and

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these are all approximated numbers

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sales tax revenue exceeded budget by

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about two million dollars casino

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revenues exceeded expectations by 841

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uh prior prior year tax lien collection

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exceeded expectations by 975 000

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insurance recoveries exceeded

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expectations by 1.2 million

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aimed funds withheld by the state of

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2020 were now recouped in 2021 560 000

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sales city properties exceeded your

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budget by 478 000

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and the federal market funds which were

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utilized uh 786 000.

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overall we feel that management does a

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really great job in monitoring your

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reserves uh year-end fund balance in the

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general point of 16.3 million dollars

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six million dollars in restricted funds

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the ban on tan borrowings decreased by

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18.1 million for your principal

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repayment and conversion to serial bonds

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new york state efc borrowing increased

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by 4.2 million

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zero bond debt increased by 12.8 million

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for your bank conversion

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overall there was a decrease in the

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city's net pension liability at 49

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million dollars for underfunded ers and

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pfls liabilities balance at your end was

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13.7 million

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total liability that increased by 4

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million to 336 million

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and those two um liability accounts that

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i just mentioned those are undergasm

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statements 68 and 75

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which require that under uh underfunded

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pension and liabilities and other

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post-employment benefit liabilities are

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reported on an actuarial valuation basis

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page 15 of your financial statements

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that's your custodial fund as required

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by gaza statement 84 this is no longer a

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typical trust and agency relationship

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this custodial fund includes your

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property taxes collected for other

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governments but not yet committed

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pages 17 through 59 of the financial

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statements these are your footnotes

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detailing the significant accounting

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policies the material account balances

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as they appear on the face of the

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statements

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pages through 66 this is your required

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supplemental information

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includes your budget to actual reports

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ers and pfrs pension liabilities and

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also your op detail and related ratios

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pages

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this is your federal single item because

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the city expended more than 750 000 in

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federal funds we're required to have

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what's called a single audit

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total federal expenditures for the year

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6.6 million

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we are required to rotate your major and

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high-risk programs every third year so

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the major programs that we tested during

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excuse me your esg grant your lead

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hazard grant dot grants and also your

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workflow funds

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we feel that the city has good internal

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controls over your federal funds and we

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had no

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material weaknesses significant

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deficiencies or any reportable items and

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we weren't able to issue an unmodified

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report on the single moment as well

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our funds are these are required to be

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obligated by december 31st 2024 and

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dispersed by december 31st 2026 city

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currently has approximately 52 million

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funds

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um between 21 and 20 2021 and 2022 that

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need to be expended by 2024.

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the general fund surplus and operations

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shows the city has continued to improve

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um overall from an accounting and

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control standpoint the public controls

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the city are very good

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operating has designed county

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information is reliable

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um the last item that you received in

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your packet was the post governance

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letter that's a required communication

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towards the end of the audit um

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this is normally the old management

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letter where if we had any comments

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during the audit we present them to you

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at that point no items to report to you

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the audit was very clean overall which

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our controls are good and we didn't have

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anything to report to council

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at this point i would be happy to take

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any questions on the audit process in

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general or the financial statements

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well

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did anyone have an opportunity to review

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this prior to the meeting tonight

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i was trying to pull it off okay

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so um

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if you have any general questions

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it was transmitted to the clerk of the

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13th and it was forwarded to all council

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today no the third thing is

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so um do you have questions

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otherwise um i would i would suggest

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that we you make sure we have an

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opportunity to review it and then just

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before the council meeting um next week

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we could just call finance to order and

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um just vote on it then as it's

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i want everyone to make sure they have

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an opportunity to review

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oh

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here it is

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mr

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right and then we can just call finance

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to order and um vote on just prior to

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the council meeting next week you have

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another opportunity are there any

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general questions today regarding the

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audience

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yeah you have a great team here they'll

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do a really great job in helping us out

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this your audit is a very big

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undertaking i know it's it's easy to see

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the financial statement saying here's

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the final audit but there's a there's a

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lot that goes on you know during auto

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before the audit during the audit

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afternoon so a really great staff here

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everybody does that's a great job

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i do have a question you you have notes

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that you read from to explain to us what

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was on each page is there a way for us

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to be able to get that information i can

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just send it to you if you want yeah

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it's perfect so that way you can refer

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to absolutely

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good question so you were saying these

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general operations are getting better in

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the airport during 2021 there was a

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overall surplus in the job fund of you

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know 5.6 million

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so it was a very good year overall it

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was kind of seeing that recovery of the

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code period sales tax revenue increased

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significantly a lot of items came back

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online that were either held back in

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2020 or you know there was no new funds

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that were out there that allowed uh you

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know

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to reap the benefit of those

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okay

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thank you thank you so what we'll do is

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call a special meeting at 6 30 next

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monday for finances

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all right

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don't listen to seabrook

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thank you for your time um

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i'm sorry

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thank you for your time

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i'm going to start off with an

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introduction um while representatives

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from axon get the powerpoint hooked up

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and mindful of your time tonight

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and i just wanted to talk about um

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why we're here

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and um

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and i'll turn it over to them to kind of

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go over the platform

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we're here to talk about technology at

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the police department

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and

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we're at a time when we need to make a

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decision

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on

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which path to take on our body long

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cameras

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back in 2018 we made the decision to go

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with panasonic

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um we knew that we had about a three to

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four year life

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on the cameras themselves

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we went fully deployed in 2019

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and three years

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later we're in 2022 are expected by the

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end of the year that

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they are going to be at the end of their

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life they're already out of warranty so

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we're we're paying for the repairs as

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they come up

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additionally we've had some problems

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with them um in the three and a half

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years that we've been using them and

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that's what forced me to start

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i should save me myself and the command

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staff to start looking at other vendors

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as we transition

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staying with panasonic and just

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refreshing with them is not an option

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because

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um they they sold their product to

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another company they renamed it i pro

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and we would literally we would have to

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buy a whole new platform anyways because

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the docs that they go into in the cars

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no longer fit the product that they sell

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so we're basically buying everything all

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the way up

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as we started looking at the different

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products out there we realized that four

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years later technology has advanced

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everything's gotten better and cheaper

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we are a uh a customer already of axon

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which makes our tasers

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so we started looking at them a little

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bit closer and what i quickly realized

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is that

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they're an industry leader in this space

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they bring

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technology to each individual component

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that really no other competitor brings

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as we started conversations with the

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sales representatives who are here

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tonight we realize that they actually

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bundle everything together and when they

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bundle it together there's cost savings

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and there's benefits to where that

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digital evidence goes which is uh to a

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cloud-based platform called evidence.com

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and there's many benefits that come to

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using that

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on our end and with everybody that we

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interact with from the district

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attorney's office to public defender's

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office defense attorneys

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um

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and even citizens and their ability to

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send us video that they retrieve if they

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see it out

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in the community so

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i will now turn it over to ben uh who's

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the uh there's a senior sales

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representative here and doug um and his

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colleagues jim and john or somewhere in

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the room

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and they will walk through the program

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and again uh there's going to be an

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entry level introduction and feel free

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to ask questions at the end thank you

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chief

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good evening everyone

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um assistant my name is ben durins

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senior regional manager for axons for

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the past five and a half years i've been

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working with the agencies that will

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deploy axons technologies i'm

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accompanied by doug gleidler doug is

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working with you

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as your taser camera excuse my

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counterpart thank you guys for your

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partnership you know with the taser tool

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for law enforcement here that is

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deployed within the day

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what we're going to cover today is

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really kind of scope down to a high

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level

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that provides and gives a general sense

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to axons law enforcement tools

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specifically a bundle we call the

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officer safety plan um we start as taser

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now acts on our mission is to protect

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life

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that's both you know officers and

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citizens

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the body camera and a lot of the

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evidence capture components are there to

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capture the truth and protect the truth

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and so this bundling the officer safety

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plan that we're going to go through

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or we're going to highlight some of the

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key elements of it why it's important

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doug's going to touch upon a little bit

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around the taser seven and then we'll

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open it up you know for any questions

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that you may have so you know with that

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really

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one of the key elements is going to be

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really the body camera and that's what

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the officer is wearing today you know

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you have a body camera we'll talk about

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the axon body three

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better protecting

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making sure we're not missing those

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critical moments

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we've got

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the camera that has the ability

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to you'll see shortly turn on based on

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critical events so if the weapon is

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drawn if the taser comes off of safety

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the light bar on the patrol car goes on

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we have the ability to you know start

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this camera

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the camera has a built-in buffer so

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we're never going to miss a moment

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we can go back up to 18 hours

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to

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grab that footage should an officer not

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activate his or her body camera it's one

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of the key features here and this is

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the first ruggedized body camera in the

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market that has embedded lte so

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being able to do things like where is my

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officer

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on a mask who what are some of the

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officers around her and

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be able to live stream to see what

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they're seeing so you can make the best

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life-saving decisions for all involved

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in the incident from this camera so

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uh on the next slide kind of lays out

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what i mentioned around the activation

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of these cameras the auto activations

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this is a technology that's

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not deployed within the current platform

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for the city and these are critical

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officer

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safety

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features that are going to ensure the

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camera activates the first one is signal

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sidearm small sensor on

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the holster when a weapon's drawn that

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body camera axon body cameras in-car

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cameras

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are going to start activating they're

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going to start recording based on that

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action

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the second one

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is axons

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signal

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for the teaser sentence so on the next

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slide you'll see

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when a taser you saw the weapon being

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drawn specifically with a taser when

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that taser is taken off of safety so

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it's energized

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we're going to emit that same burst

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and what that's going to do is again

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push that bubble out turn on cameras

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within a 35 foot radius and continue for

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30 seconds to ensure

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anyone here on scene is actively you

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know recording so

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just

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quickly kind of demo that jug has a

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teaser with inner cartridges but he will

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just power it on

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and this camera which was in a buffer

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mode goes on and buffering you see here

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now i'm blinking red i'm actively

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recording

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and i've captured going back 30 seconds

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what happened and now i'm actively

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recording and capturing that here on

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this camera so i'm going to go ahead and

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end that recording

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the next step on this camera

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talked about lte so this camera is now

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actively recording

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but what it's also doing is

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communicating in real time

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back to the police department that a

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weapon

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was taken off of safety or a weapon was

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drawn or see that was taken off safety

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and so that provides an alert that then

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provides the ability for law enforcement

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to be able to live stream in on this

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camera to be able to see you know what

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is unfolding in front of officer agreed

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us so that is providing you know help

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when it is needed needed where is my

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officer you know how could i best

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respond

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to them

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and then i'm going to end this recording

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really quickly

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i have the ability

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from this camera

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to offload that video immediately

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to secure cloud storage so now it can be

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reviewed and started to be digested

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along with other evidence captured from

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the axon in car

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in near real time on the back end system

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so that's you know some of the key

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features of the axon body camera as well

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as signal and respond

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in addition to the hardware specifically

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the body camera

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we have

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built in

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complete fixed cost

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packages

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for

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refreshments of the body cameras and the

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docks so they come with five years

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warranty each you can talk about hey

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they have come up on in the life and

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typically significant cost increases to

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keep refreshing these technologies we've

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built in the program to refreshes of

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cameras and docks so you're insulating

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00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:29,280
yourself from you know technology

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costs that do typically go up

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on the hardware side of this and then we

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also provide these software components

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for our officers to

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be able to use mobile apps to tag their

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videos

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in this case we're going to be

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automatically tagging the officers

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videos for them so tagging is very

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simply

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making you know titling as a traffic

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stop so we know how long to keep it that

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takes time to every call for service

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while we're able to do that

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automatically because we're going to

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talk to can rms and save that officer

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time the detective's time and make sure

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that evidence is

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correctly categorized and managed within

576
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:08,880
the system

577
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:10,480
through both an app and then

578
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,559
automatically

579
00:50:12,559 --> 00:50:14,319
a lot of what you're going to talk about

580
00:50:14,319 --> 00:50:16,800
now once you get to be on axon fleet 3

581
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:18,960
which is completely integrated with the

582
00:50:18,960 --> 00:50:20,240
body camera

583
00:50:20,240 --> 00:50:22,079
so

584
00:50:22,079 --> 00:50:23,920
you have it in car solution today

585
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:27,280
separately agencies have you know alpr

586
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:29,359
they're really beholden to

587
00:50:29,359 --> 00:50:31,200
a significant spend and they're able to

588
00:50:31,200 --> 00:50:33,119
do like four vehicles

589
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,720
what axon's done and you can see our

590
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,960
dash camera actually has two lenses

591
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,200
is we're not only capturing the video of

592
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,880
the dash of the vehicle

593
00:50:40,880 --> 00:50:42,960
as well as backseat camera view

594
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,960
but that second lens looking forward is

595
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,119
doing real-time alpr

596
00:50:47,119 --> 00:50:49,920
and we're able to do it for every

597
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:51,359
vehicle

598
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:52,880
rather than just four

599
00:50:52,880 --> 00:50:54,559
so these are you know real-time alerts

600
00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:57,119
from hotlist so officers can get alerts

601
00:50:57,119 --> 00:50:58,960
when you know certain

602
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,800
different

603
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:02,400
hits are made off of

604
00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:04,079
specific lists

605
00:51:04,079 --> 00:51:06,720
for bad guys so that's going to enable

606
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,800
safer streets safer communities you know

607
00:51:08,800 --> 00:51:11,680
with that real-time alpr with axon

608
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,580
in-car

609
00:51:13,580 --> 00:51:15,440
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610
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,359
i think i typically

611
00:51:17,359 --> 00:51:21,750
cover both on that one

612
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:24,720
all of this evidence um the in-car the

613
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:26,240
body cameras

614
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:28,480
axon interview room as well

615
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,880
feed to a central back-end system and

616
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:32,559
this is where

617
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:34,800
everything gets streamlined

618
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:38,079
everything is secure this is essentially

619
00:51:38,079 --> 00:51:40,480
a seizures very secure environment

620
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:43,200
hosted environment where you can

621
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:44,800
bring it automatically up back some

622
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,319
things are going to upload but you can

623
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:48,480
bring and click and drag in all types of

624
00:51:48,480 --> 00:51:53,359
video from bodegas cctv security tv

625
00:51:53,359 --> 00:51:55,440
citizens videos you're going to be

626
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:57,200
managing your cases there you'll be able

627
00:51:57,200 --> 00:51:58,960
to securely share them

628
00:51:58,960 --> 00:52:01,040
with partner agencies such as the new

629
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:02,559
york state police who are running this

630
00:52:02,559 --> 00:52:04,640
exact program

631
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,319
as well as many other agencies

632
00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:07,920
throughout the region

633
00:52:07,920 --> 00:52:11,440
so within evidence.com we've got tools

634
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:14,079
specifically for redaction

635
00:52:14,079 --> 00:52:15,680
you know automating processes to redact

636
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:16,960
these videos

637
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:19,520
so varying different stakeholders

638
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:21,760
from what we call capture which is you

639
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:23,520
know as an officer going here and find

640
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:25,359
his or her video tag it all the way

641
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:26,800
through the courtroom how do we get this

642
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:27,520
to

643
00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,520
you know a defense attorney somebody who

644
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:31,599
needs this for a foia request without

645
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:34,079
burning dvds and driving them doing all

646
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:36,559
those significant you know time

647
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,920
spent uh workflows today so

648
00:52:39,920 --> 00:52:42,480
second thing with evidence.com

649
00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:43,680
is

650
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,720
the complete unlimited cloud storage

651
00:52:46,720 --> 00:52:48,160
the sieges

652
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,559
security provided by our partners

653
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:52,720
microsoft azure within their cg skills

654
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:53,599
lab

655
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:54,559
and

656
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:56,400
axons of security

657
00:52:56,400 --> 00:52:58,800
so we're taking on the risk of you know

658
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:01,119
malware ransomware and housing and

659
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:03,359
protecting you know that precious asset

660
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:04,559
if you will

661
00:53:04,559 --> 00:53:05,599
so

662
00:53:05,599 --> 00:53:06,800
um

663
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:09,040
i'm going to move on to the next slide

664
00:53:09,040 --> 00:53:09,920
that

665
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:11,920
automates the redaction so the blurring

666
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:15,040
of faces the ability to

667
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,800
frame by frame

668
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,319
track and ensure that an audio element a

669
00:53:20,319 --> 00:53:23,040
screen is not part of the video

670
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:26,319
the solution goes as far as to use tools

671
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:29,839
we've test an ai engine just to go in

672
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:32,079
and identify certain things that are

673
00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:33,359
majority

674
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:35,599
that are redacted such as faces

675
00:53:35,599 --> 00:53:37,119
mdt screens

676
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:39,520
and license plates and it's going to go

677
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:41,680
do that huge time savings for those who

678
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:42,480
have to

679
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:47,829
you know manage through that

680
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:49,520
because we're cloud-based we're able to

681
00:53:49,520 --> 00:53:53,200
introduce a lot of elements of

682
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,599
additional ways to get better richer

683
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:58,240
evidence faster while on scene

684
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:00,000
to better solve that

685
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:02,400
incident that murder would ever be much

686
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,319
quicker so

687
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:06,400
things like an app called axon capture

688
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:08,480
so additional photos and videos for

689
00:54:08,480 --> 00:54:11,040
detectives can be captured

690
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,200
um this is a great tool during code

691
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:14,640
where we're doing you know

692
00:54:14,640 --> 00:54:17,040
audio statements not having the person

693
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,880
come into the pd but then doing a front

694
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:20,240
portion of the phone there and having a

695
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:22,720
conversation you know social distance

696
00:54:22,720 --> 00:54:24,640
that is part of this as well so we're

697
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:27,040
getting additional photos those offload

698
00:54:27,040 --> 00:54:29,359
directly up into evidence.com

699
00:54:29,359 --> 00:54:31,359
and then on the next slide

700
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:32,800
uh

701
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,640
capturing evidence again from that

702
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:36,880
bodega cctv from a suspect who may have

703
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,920
it on their phone we've got axon citizen

704
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,160
which will enable a very quick

705
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:44,480
on-scene through the mtt in the vehicle

706
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:46,480
or through a mobile app the ability to

707
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:49,839
send a text message or an email

708
00:54:49,839 --> 00:54:51,599
you know auto-generated you know phone

709
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:52,400
number

710
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:54,720
to an individual that says thank you for

711
00:54:54,720 --> 00:54:57,359
you know helping connect to dpd

712
00:54:57,359 --> 00:54:59,280
you know share you unanimously if you

713
00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:01,520
want more names this particular

714
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,040
um

715
00:55:03,040 --> 00:55:04,799
incident you have on your phone you know

716
00:55:04,799 --> 00:55:06,960
so previously taking that phone off of

717
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:09,599
that suspect that witnessed excuse me

718
00:55:09,599 --> 00:55:11,760
taking that and having to upload it take

719
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,920
their phone giving it back um not a

720
00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:15,359
process that anybody wants to go through

721
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:16,720
this is a quick tool that allows you to

722
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:18,640
send a text message they pick the one or

723
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,559
two pictures and they send it to you it

724
00:55:20,559 --> 00:55:22,799
goes directly up as part of the case

725
00:55:22,799 --> 00:55:24,000
within a matter of minutes while you're

726
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,920
still on scene or after the fact so that's a

727
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:29,119
um

728
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:31,920
a really really time savings you know

729
00:55:31,920 --> 00:55:34,240
couple of click tool that has been just

730
00:55:34,240 --> 00:55:35,680
a huge change

731
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:37,359
for agencies who are

732
00:55:37,359 --> 00:55:38,559
not only just looking to go buy another

733
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:40,559
set of cameras those set of in-car but

734
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,760
really transform how they're doing

735
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,839
and managing digital evidence because

736
00:55:45,839 --> 00:55:47,520
it's not going away it's only becoming

737
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,240
more burdensome in the amount of which

738
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:51,839
is out there and they are critical to

739
00:55:51,839 --> 00:55:53,119
all cases

740
00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:56,789
so

741
00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:59,280
there's a process that agencies have

742
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:00,000
where

743
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,480
you know you've invested in body cameras

744
00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,480
and car solutions

745
00:56:04,480 --> 00:56:06,559
how do we know we're getting our money's

746
00:56:06,559 --> 00:56:07,839
worth because how do we know it's being

747
00:56:07,839 --> 00:56:09,760
used and typically it's a manual process

748
00:56:09,760 --> 00:56:11,760
randomly we look at videos

749
00:56:11,760 --> 00:56:13,839
see look at calls for service was there

750
00:56:13,839 --> 00:56:15,920
videos that's time consuming in itself

751
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:17,599
we've heard from agencies can you

752
00:56:17,599 --> 00:56:19,040
automate this and that's what actual

753
00:56:19,040 --> 00:56:21,200
performance does it's

754
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,119
a analytics tool that sits over the

755
00:56:23,119 --> 00:56:26,000
system that'll show you in real time

756
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:28,400
all your calls for service

757
00:56:28,400 --> 00:56:30,400
but that's great show me all the calls

758
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:31,440
for service where there's no

759
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,520
corresponding body camera footage

760
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,440
who did not turn their you know camera

761
00:56:35,440 --> 00:56:37,359
on and so you'll be able to see that

762
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:38,880
specifically from

763
00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:41,040
the reports and for the analytics that

764
00:56:41,040 --> 00:56:43,119
are provided through these interactive

765
00:56:43,119 --> 00:56:44,960
dynamic graphs

766
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:46,880
also activation rates i'm getting kind

767
00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:48,960
of in the weeds here but are the cameras

768
00:56:48,960 --> 00:56:50,400
being used who's not leaving their

769
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:52,480
camera on full shift and who's turning

770
00:56:52,480 --> 00:56:54,640
off a lot of times before they leave

771
00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,960
between when they get back

772
00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:58,799
who's not docking their cameras who's

773
00:56:58,799 --> 00:57:00,960
not spark testing their teasers

774
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,640
and then it also

775
00:57:02,640 --> 00:57:05,200
automates the video review process so

776
00:57:05,200 --> 00:57:06,559
you know command needs to look at four

777
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:08,319
videos a month it'll automate that send

778
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:10,319
them an email pick those four randomly

779
00:57:10,319 --> 00:57:12,880
and flow them through a review so

780
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,000
that is a you know a key metric for

781
00:57:16,000 --> 00:57:17,440
understanding you know making this

782
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:21,119
investment how do we use it

783
00:57:21,119 --> 00:57:23,119
i'm going to pass it over to

784
00:57:23,119 --> 00:57:25,040
doug now just to cover a little bit

785
00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:28,319
around taser 7. again

786
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:29,359
these are

787
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:32,240
deployed at a smaller number here

788
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:34,160
and you know along with the proposed

789
00:57:34,160 --> 00:57:36,079
package would be you know providing

790
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:46,230
these a tool to all officers

791
00:57:46,240 --> 00:57:47,520
the seventh generation of our taser

792
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:49,119
weapon

793
00:57:49,119 --> 00:57:50,720
when we built taser 7 we built it on

794
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:52,960
three colors i'll touch on each of those

795
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:54,559
we built it first on

796
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:57,200
confidence next on connectivity and the

797
00:57:57,200 --> 00:57:59,520
last on community so for confidence we

798
00:57:59,520 --> 00:58:01,280
want to give our officers the best tool

799
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,119
that we have out there to give them the

800
00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:05,119
confidence in the job effectively and

801
00:58:05,119 --> 00:58:07,440
have the best in the escalation right

802
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,599
um this this taser is the first of its

803
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:11,280
kind to have two different types of

804
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,359
cartridges these cartridges can fire the

805
00:58:13,359 --> 00:58:16,480
table between four and 24 feet

806
00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:17,920
tasers in the past

807
00:58:17,920 --> 00:58:19,839
the minimum distance to be fired was at

808
00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:21,680
eight feet and as you can imagine

809
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:23,839
generally speaking our conversations are

810
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:26,000
usually between four and five feet so it

811
00:58:26,000 --> 00:58:27,599
was uh something that needed to be

812
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:28,880
adjusted from the taser weapons

813
00:58:28,880 --> 00:58:29,920
standpoint

814
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:32,559
um correctly that uh from a connectivity

815
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:33,599
standpoint

816
00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:35,119
uh we finally have a rechargeable

817
00:58:35,119 --> 00:58:36,559
battery right so these batteries will

818
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:38,720
last all five years it's a five year

819
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:41,119
life expectancy for our taser weapons uh

820
00:58:41,119 --> 00:58:42,480
in the event that anything were to go

821
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,720
wrong with the batteries with the tasers

822
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:46,720
with the docking stations all of that is

823
00:58:46,720 --> 00:58:48,720
covered with our full five-year warranty

824
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:50,480
uh this is also going to give each

825
00:58:50,480 --> 00:58:53,359
officer their own taser right

826
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:55,920
we supply all the training cartridges

827
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:58,640
for the full five years for each officer

828
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:01,760
we include all of their duty cartridges

829
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:03,839
we include from the community standpoint

830
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:05,680
also so that's an afterthought we're

831
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:07,040
hooking new trainings to it's basically

832
00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:08,960
a full velcro suit so we're doing

833
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:11,280
scenario-based training uh an officer

834
00:59:11,280 --> 00:59:14,240
can approach i'm sorry as a

835
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:15,920
training officer can approach

836
00:59:15,920 --> 00:59:18,000
uh an officer would say a knife or be

837
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:19,280
suicidal and we can do it through all

838
00:59:19,280 --> 00:59:20,720
different types of drills when to use a

839
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,559
taser so when the time comes they can

840
00:59:22,559 --> 00:59:24,559
actually use it in the field and have

841
00:59:24,559 --> 00:59:26,799
more real-life examples

842
00:59:26,799 --> 00:59:27,760
um

843
00:59:27,760 --> 00:59:29,520
another thing i'll touch on here i think

844
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,559
the next one is probably the vr

845
00:59:32,559 --> 00:59:34,319
so we tied together our virtual reality

846
00:59:34,319 --> 00:59:36,559
training with our taser 7. so the

847
00:59:36,559 --> 00:59:38,640
agency's current tasers actually already

848
00:59:38,640 --> 00:59:40,400
work with our vr system

849
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,240
we have three different types of tools

850
00:59:42,240 --> 00:59:44,880
that we that we built into our vr system

851
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,440
one is uh your basic

852
00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:50,079
uh online based um

853
00:59:50,079 --> 00:59:53,280
courses yeah about 45 minutes of each

854
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,200
one of our modules the different types

855
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,280
of modules we have vary anywhere from

856
00:59:57,280 --> 00:59:59,760
schizophrenia to

857
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,280
uh to

858
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,200
uh

859
01:00:03,200 --> 01:00:05,920
we have peer intervention uh

860
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,079
domestic violence our commitment to the

861
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:09,520
agency is to produce one of these every

862
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:11,359
single month uh so they're gonna get our

863
01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:14,240
full library of uh virtuality

864
01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:16,880
community-based training scenarios along

865
01:00:16,880 --> 01:00:19,280
with that we'll also get our simulation

866
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680
simulator modules so we create one of

867
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:24,000
those every two months and then we dump

868
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:25,599
it out to the agency so this is more

869
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,200
where it's instructor-led

870
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:28,319
oregon b

871
01:00:28,319 --> 01:00:30,079
we have artificial intelligence that's

872
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:31,920
driving this so as you see the

873
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:34,319
instructor has a tablet

874
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:36,880
we can change it by gender race

875
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:39,119
have this be an assault no assault all

876
01:00:39,119 --> 01:00:41,440
this is configurable within the system

877
01:00:41,440 --> 01:00:42,640
we have

878
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,520
uh

879
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:44,960
virtual reality training cartridges that

880
01:00:44,960 --> 01:00:47,599
will turn this case taser into a vr

881
01:00:47,599 --> 01:00:48,640
taser

882
01:00:48,640 --> 01:00:49,920
so it takes away the functionality of

883
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:51,040
the real world

884
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:53,760
makes it uh suitable just for the vr uh

885
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:55,440
the r world has anybody ever used a

886
01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:56,799
personality that i thought should have

887
01:00:56,799 --> 01:00:58,480
asked that

888
01:00:58,480 --> 01:00:59,920
if you haven't you're important

889
01:00:59,920 --> 01:01:01,760
experience we this is a great community

890
01:01:01,760 --> 01:01:03,119
tool too because it gives you it gives

891
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:04,480
everybody the opportunity to really see

892
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,400
what our officers go through

893
01:01:06,400 --> 01:01:07,599
and getting back to the community

894
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:09,119
engaged modules

895
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:10,400
our officers are going they're

896
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,760
experiencing what it's like to be

897
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:14,000
autistic or schizophrenic or

898
01:01:14,000 --> 01:01:16,079
um

899
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:17,599
be hard of hearing right so they're

900
01:01:17,599 --> 01:01:18,799
experiencing that for a couple of

901
01:01:18,799 --> 01:01:20,960
minutes and then we flip it and they're

902
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:22,480
the opposite interacting with that with

903
01:01:22,480 --> 01:01:23,839
that person so we're seeing it from both

904
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:26,079
lenses and it gives them that experience

905
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:27,599
it's it's great it's a great community

906
01:01:27,599 --> 01:01:29,040
tool tool too

907
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,280
we've had agencies using in schools

908
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:33,839
at uh career days at fairs

909
01:01:33,839 --> 01:01:35,440
just to you know give the public an idea

910
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:39,440
of who the police are working with on a daily basis

911
01:01:39,440 --> 01:01:41,450
but

912
01:01:41,450 --> 01:01:43,599
[Music]

913
01:01:43,599 --> 01:01:45,599
short high level on the taser vr side

914
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,920
anybody any questions on the taser or vr

915
01:01:47,920 --> 01:01:49,839
i kind of breeze through it but happy to

916
01:01:49,839 --> 01:01:51,599
answer any questions

917
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:52,400
yeah

918
01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:54,480
so um i've heard of instances where

919
01:01:54,480 --> 01:01:56,880
tasers where people have health issues

920
01:01:56,880 --> 01:01:59,599
and then they've been tased and had a

921
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:01,839
negative outcome yeah so

922
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:03,280
can you talk about

923
01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:05,680
it's a great question so we

924
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:07,280
during the training there are certain

925
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:11,359
areas that are more suitable to be like

926
01:02:11,359 --> 01:02:13,280
hit with a taser obviously the heart is

927
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:14,640
an area we want to stay away from the

928
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,200
neck the head area um

929
01:02:17,200 --> 01:02:19,119
a little bit below the waist we want to

930
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:22,160
split the belt line so in a optimal

931
01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:23,280
teasing

932
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:38,710
uh we want to essentially um

933
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:40,240
we're gonna we're gonna fire two darts

934
01:02:40,240 --> 01:02:41,599
the one is from the top the one is from

935
01:02:41,599 --> 01:02:43,520
the bottom i promise you after five

936
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:44,559
seconds you don't even know what hey

937
01:02:44,559 --> 01:02:45,920
this camera turned on recording

938
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:48,000
everything's done

939
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:49,839
but i want to split the belt line right

940
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:50,559
so

941
01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:52,000
one of the neat things with the taser

942
01:02:52,000 --> 01:02:54,400
weapons is the only area that is

943
01:02:54,400 --> 01:02:56,079
actually being locked up is the area

944
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,799
between where these two lasers are

945
01:02:58,799 --> 01:03:00,319
everything else is a sympathetic

946
01:03:00,319 --> 01:03:02,559
reaction i can tell you from experience

947
01:03:02,559 --> 01:03:04,319
that you feel it from your head to your

948
01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:06,319
toes but after the five seconds are up

949
01:03:06,319 --> 01:03:08,880
it's five seconds from the time that the

950
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,079
trigger is pulled until the time it

951
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:11,760
stops

952
01:03:11,760 --> 01:03:13,520
you really don't feel anything i mean

953
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:15,440
being a little sore from where the darts

954
01:03:15,440 --> 01:03:17,440
hit um

955
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:18,160
but

956
01:03:18,160 --> 01:03:19,760
everybody's going home

957
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:21,280
the only outcome is that and i'll bring

958
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:22,480
this up because

959
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:24,880
due to the question so when the subject

960
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,359
falls we've had instances um in that

961
01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:29,280
regard where they fall and they hit say

962
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:32,480
a curb or concrete or if they're running

963
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,400
you know there's

964
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:35,680
obviously there's

965
01:03:35,680 --> 01:03:37,920
optimal situations to tase in and

966
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,920
there's some that could be a little

967
01:03:39,920 --> 01:03:41,200
questionable

968
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:42,559
but generally speaking that's where

969
01:03:42,559 --> 01:03:44,240
we've seen some a lot of a lot of

970
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:46,319
dangers and if it were to hit the heart

971
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:48,000
there is a slight chance especially if

972
01:03:48,000 --> 01:03:50,000
they have our condition but we train not

973
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,599
to

974
01:03:51,599 --> 01:03:54,480
fire in certain areas um

975
01:03:54,480 --> 01:03:55,920
another component of the virtual reality

976
01:03:55,920 --> 01:03:57,280
this gives them the opportunity without

977
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,559
spending you know

978
01:03:58,559 --> 01:04:00,079
loads of money on cartridges to be able

979
01:04:00,079 --> 01:04:01,680
to fire a taser as many times as you

980
01:04:01,680 --> 01:04:03,520
want and they get that training in a

981
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,680
virtual world

982
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:07,359
also with the simulation suit that

983
01:04:07,359 --> 01:04:08,559
lawsuit

984
01:04:08,559 --> 01:04:09,839
this gives them the opportunity to fire

985
01:04:09,839 --> 01:04:12,480
live card which is in a live setting um

986
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,119
you know and training that platform

987
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:17,440
thank you yeah the question so i know in

988
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,280
previous models of the tasers it would

989
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:20,960
cycle so like you'd have like that five

990
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:24,960
seconds yeah then it would like maybe two seconds or something i

991
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:26,240
don't know what the time period is but

992
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,640
then it would like give another

993
01:04:28,640 --> 01:04:30,480
uh so you can re-energize yeah we call

994
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,880
it re-energizing so it's gonna i'll show

995
01:04:32,880 --> 01:04:34,480
you real quick here so

996
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:35,839
we have this built-in it's an automatic

997
01:04:35,839 --> 01:04:37,280
shut-off for five seconds so if i pull

998
01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:43,349
the trigger

999
01:04:43,359 --> 01:04:44,559
it's probably a little hard to hear over

1000
01:04:44,559 --> 01:04:46,160
the bolts but you hear that little

1001
01:04:46,160 --> 01:04:47,359
beeping sound

1002
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:49,119
now if i wanted to re-energize i can do

1003
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:50,240
that it's gonna give another five

1004
01:04:50,240 --> 01:04:51,599
seconds

1005
01:04:51,599 --> 01:04:53,200
okay but you have to do that manually

1006
01:04:53,200 --> 01:04:55,359
correct and all of that is recorded so

1007
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:56,880
you can go back in evidence.com and

1008
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,720
anytime that trigger is full or even in

1009
01:04:58,720 --> 01:04:59,839
performance we've been spoken about

1010
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:01,760
before uh we have four different types

1011
01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:03,680
of metrics that we record for the tasers

1012
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:05,280
uh one is anytime it's taken off a

1013
01:05:05,280 --> 01:05:07,200
safety another time is any time the arc

1014
01:05:07,200 --> 01:05:08,799
switch is full this is the r switch

1015
01:05:08,799 --> 01:05:10,559
right here so this gives the officer you

1016
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:13,839
know the opportunity to say uh taser

1017
01:05:13,839 --> 01:05:16,720
show the show the volts um all that's

1018
01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:19,119
recorded anytime i pull the trigger all

1019
01:05:19,119 --> 01:05:21,200
that's recorded and anytime i deploy the

1020
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:23,039
cartridges that's required too

1021
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:24,400
you said you got two different type of

1022
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:27,680
cartridges yeah what's the difference so

1023
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:29,440
i pull these out here

1024
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:31,440
this is our close quarter cartridge so

1025
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,119
that is designed to be fire between four

1026
01:05:33,119 --> 01:05:34,400
and ten feet

1027
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:35,920
and then this is our standoff cartridge

1028
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,119
they go together like legolas you can

1029
01:05:37,119 --> 01:05:39,760
just piece them together oh okay um just

1030
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:41,680
the lighters have to be up but they uh

1031
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,680
they stand out fires between 10 10 and

1032
01:05:43,680 --> 01:05:45,839
24 feet now i'll show you something neat

1033
01:05:45,839 --> 01:05:49,520
with this so if i put these in the taser

1034
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:51,359
so i have my close quarter

1035
01:05:51,359 --> 01:05:53,280
loaded in day one sorry man i can use

1036
01:05:53,280 --> 01:05:54,720
you again

1037
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,559
so we call this tilt select

1038
01:05:56,559 --> 01:05:59,200
so say uh i need to back up and pull out

1039
01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:00,799
a knife what i'm going to do is i'm

1040
01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:01,920
going to take the taser and i'm going to

1041
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:04,240
tilt it to a quick 90 degree click on my

1042
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,480
wrist pretty much

1043
01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:09,599
notice how those probes got tighter

1044
01:06:09,599 --> 01:06:11,440
now if i needed to advance on them i

1045
01:06:11,440 --> 01:06:13,520
could do the same thing here

1046
01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:14,960
now that i have the post quarter part

1047
01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:16,240
again

1048
01:06:16,240 --> 01:06:18,400
also that switch switched on switches

1049
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:22,640
the cartridge itself yeah we toggle we can go back and forth

1050
01:06:22,640 --> 01:06:24,160
between cartridge base

1051
01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:27,440
um we see uh on the back which is our uh

1052
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:29,680
our cid screen it shows a line under

1053
01:06:29,680 --> 01:06:34,309
which which bay it's in

1054
01:06:34,319 --> 01:06:35,680
is that an actual switch or just you

1055
01:06:35,680 --> 01:06:37,280
moving your wrist this is me moving

1056
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:38,640
around you want to drive no it's pretty

1057
01:06:38,640 --> 01:06:45,109
neat

1058
01:06:45,119 --> 01:06:47,119
just a quick back start on this so the

1059
01:06:47,119 --> 01:06:49,280
taser has to be for the most part um

1060
01:06:49,280 --> 01:06:50,880
pretty upright and it has to be done

1061
01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:52,480
within a second and we do that in the

1062
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:54,160
event that that officer was running with

1063
01:06:54,160 --> 01:06:55,680
a taser we can't do this by accident it

1064
01:06:55,680 --> 01:07:00,390
has to be a force movement

1065
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:03,280
so do you have capability with the laser

1066
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:04,240
to

1067
01:07:04,240 --> 01:07:07,359
tell the distance so the cartridge

1068
01:07:07,359 --> 01:07:09,839
shoots automatically the correct one not

1069
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:13,119
yet so yeah that's refraining comes in

1070
01:07:13,119 --> 01:07:15,520
um generally speaking though if you have

1071
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:16,960
you know agencies will load their

1072
01:07:16,960 --> 01:07:18,319
cartridges one way or another you're

1073
01:07:18,319 --> 01:07:20,160
either gonna load it both close quarter

1074
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,520
both standoff

1075
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,119
close quarters standoff or stand up

1076
01:07:23,119 --> 01:07:25,359
close quarter

1077
01:07:25,359 --> 01:07:27,520
it's for the most part that's the way

1078
01:07:27,520 --> 01:07:30,160
agencies set their cartridges up um if

1079
01:07:30,160 --> 01:07:31,680
i'm at 10 feet with a close quarter

1080
01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:33,520
cartridge you'll see i'm going to have

1081
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,680
two and a half feet of probe spread

1082
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:36,640
and that's going to be a pretty

1083
01:07:36,640 --> 01:07:38,960
difficult shot

1084
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:40,160
now you're still hitting still be

1085
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:41,680
effective now the nice thing with this

1086
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,359
taser is this has two bays so in the

1087
01:07:43,359 --> 01:07:45,359
event that i even missed say if i missed

1088
01:07:45,359 --> 01:07:47,359
that right one see or

1089
01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:49,839
i'm sort of pointing the chief but

1090
01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:52,160
now if i missed that bottom one right

1091
01:07:52,160 --> 01:07:54,799
and then i fired the second bag

1092
01:07:54,799 --> 01:07:56,960
but i landed the bottom one there

1093
01:07:56,960 --> 01:07:58,960
so i fired i landed one on the top from

1094
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,400
the first big one on the bottom from the

1095
01:08:00,400 --> 01:08:02,400
second bag

1096
01:08:02,400 --> 01:08:05,039
i just got to get out of the laser

1097
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:06,559
after we just got lasik surgery two

1098
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:08,789
weeks

1099
01:08:08,799 --> 01:08:10,559
but we'd still get a solid connection i

1100
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:12,319
just need a positive and negative so

1101
01:08:12,319 --> 01:08:13,520
this gives our officers another

1102
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:15,440
opportunity um

1103
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:17,759
you know to avoid having to use uh

1104
01:08:17,759 --> 01:08:20,400
through the force right um this is

1105
01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:21,520
essentially the

1106
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:23,759
in between of all that right we have

1107
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:25,120
hands on we have a taser and we have

1108
01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,679
lethal force um

1109
01:08:27,679 --> 01:08:29,920
i have two two cartridges in my taser if

1110
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:31,120
i'm able to

1111
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,359
use the taser and avoid that another

1112
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:34,640
pretty cool stat that we have that isn't

1113
01:08:34,640 --> 01:08:36,000
spoken about a lot

1114
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:36,799
so

1115
01:08:36,799 --> 01:08:40,719
75 to 80 of all deployments nationwide

1116
01:08:40,719 --> 01:08:43,199
or taser uses uh nationwide are without

1117
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:44,640
a trigger poll it's the presence of a

1118
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:46,640
taser or just displaying the

1119
01:08:46,640 --> 01:08:48,799
um the electricity from the art switch

1120
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:50,799
without having to pull the trigger

1121
01:08:50,799 --> 01:08:52,560
so it's only one in five and this is

1122
01:08:52,560 --> 01:08:54,480
from 25 plus years of data that we

1123
01:08:54,480 --> 01:08:55,679
collected

1124
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:56,560
um

1125
01:08:56,560 --> 01:08:59,490
that we've compiled there

1126
01:08:59,490 --> 01:09:00,719
[Music]

1127
01:09:00,719 --> 01:09:02,640
so i definitely applaud your agency for

1128
01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:05,279
applying or

1129
01:09:05,279 --> 01:09:06,960
providing the community engagement

1130
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:08,799
trainings i just wanted to know have

1131
01:09:08,799 --> 01:09:10,159
they been

1132
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,480
approved or reviewed by any health care

1133
01:09:12,480 --> 01:09:14,560
institutions just for their authenticity

1134
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,080
yeah we have a great question we have a

1135
01:09:16,080 --> 01:09:17,440
whole team of subject matter experts

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01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:20,239
from universities to police departments

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01:09:20,239 --> 01:09:22,239
retired sheriffs furnitures retired

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01:09:22,239 --> 01:09:25,430
chiefs current chiefs

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01:09:25,440 --> 01:09:27,759
professors from i think was it ucla i

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01:09:27,759 --> 01:09:29,440
think a few of them

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01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:30,719
but yeah there's a whole team of subject

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01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:31,920
matter experts that are getting all of

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01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:33,759
this information out we are eventually

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01:09:33,759 --> 01:09:35,040
going to be accredited we're able to use

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01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:36,880
this for actual training to receive

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01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,839
credit hours it's part of the roadmap we

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01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:41,600
so we just launched the simulator

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01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:42,640
portion we've had the community

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01:09:42,640 --> 01:09:44,080
engagement part out for about two years

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01:09:44,080 --> 01:09:44,960
now

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01:09:44,960 --> 01:09:46,159
the simulator we just wanted to make

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01:09:46,159 --> 01:09:47,600
sure it was perfect before we finally

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01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:49,120
launched it and we launched it a couple

1154
01:09:49,120 --> 01:09:51,120
weeks ago out of our uh you know the big

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01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:52,239
public safety conference called

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01:09:52,239 --> 01:09:53,920
accelerate up in arizona that just

1157
01:09:53,920 --> 01:09:57,189
officially launched it

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01:09:57,199 --> 01:09:58,560
so um

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01:09:58,560 --> 01:10:00,239
this is a little bit more about kind of

1160
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:01,840
going back to the body cam because i'm

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01:10:01,840 --> 01:10:02,960
really impressed with the way they work

1162
01:10:02,960 --> 01:10:07,199
together i think that that's really great tool um

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01:10:07,199 --> 01:10:09,840
with the unlimited cloud storage

1164
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,360
um that would

1165
01:10:11,360 --> 01:10:13,280
essentially say like officers can leave

1166
01:10:13,280 --> 01:10:15,760
their body cam on their entire shift

1167
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:17,199
right like to wear a previously you

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01:10:17,199 --> 01:10:19,280
might have to be more mindful of that

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01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:20,880
right

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01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:22,080
correct

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01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:23,120
um

1172
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:24,480
you're still definitely going to use

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01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,480
this camera and activate the camera for

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01:10:26,480 --> 01:10:28,320
the policy so the toss isn't necessarily

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01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:29,679
changed

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01:10:29,679 --> 01:10:32,239
because the storage program changes

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01:10:32,239 --> 01:10:34,480
but there could be it's full shift i'm

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01:10:34,480 --> 01:10:36,560
leaving on because i'm just over here on

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:37,920
a crime scene i'm

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01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,320
watching over something so i am going to

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01:10:40,320 --> 01:10:42,719
leave it on the entire time

1182
01:10:42,719 --> 01:10:44,880
and that's kind of the the glory that

1183
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:47,040
fixed cost is that you can

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01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:48,239
you know operate the camera that

1185
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:49,920
distance but typically because we have

1186
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,840
the unlimited storage it doesn't really

1187
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:53,440
change the policy as to where it has to

1188
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:56,320
be activated when is it deactivated

1189
01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,719
that's all standard policy from the

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01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:00,159
agency

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01:11:00,159 --> 01:11:02,480
um and the statement

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01:11:02,480 --> 01:11:04,640
but yeah you could lean on

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01:11:04,640 --> 01:11:05,920
um

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01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:07,920
and whether it's the in-car the body

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01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:09,120
camera

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01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:13,830
all you know unlimited storage

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01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,640
with the alpr's do you have capability

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01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:19,280
put those in other city vehicles and

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01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:20,320
when

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01:11:20,320 --> 01:11:24,640
a hit it goes automatically to the pd

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01:11:24,640 --> 01:11:27,600
yes

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01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:28,640
and

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01:11:28,640 --> 01:11:31,040
would that be part of this package or

1204
01:11:31,040 --> 01:11:34,239
how much extra is that yeah so it's uh

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01:11:34,239 --> 01:11:37,199
currently scoped to the patrol vehicles

1206
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:38,880
um you have to learn a little bit more

1207
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:40,880
as to what you know vehicle we're

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01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:41,920
looking at we want to make sure

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01:11:41,920 --> 01:11:43,600
technically it has

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01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:46,080
um the components to support it just

1211
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:47,679
then you know be able to include it in

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01:11:47,679 --> 01:11:49,679
there but yeah it could be you know our

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01:11:49,679 --> 01:11:50,940
parking vehicle

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01:11:50,940 --> 01:11:52,239
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01:11:52,239 --> 01:11:54,640
i'm thinking garbage trucks they're

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01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,920
going around the city all the time

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01:11:57,920 --> 01:12:00,239
you know if there's a

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01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:03,840
accident yes but uh if there's a

1219
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:08,560
hit on a warrant you know on a car

1220
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:11,679
and do you have any data on the return

1221
01:12:11,679 --> 01:12:16,229
on investment on those aoprs

1222
01:12:16,239 --> 01:12:19,440
in terms of being able to maximize your

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01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,280
well usage and

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01:12:21,280 --> 01:12:22,400
the

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01:12:22,400 --> 01:12:24,960
you know the hits and the

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01:12:24,960 --> 01:12:27,360
arrests as well as maybe

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01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:29,199
parking fines and things along those

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01:12:29,199 --> 01:12:31,040
lines yeah it's a great question i have

1229
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:33,360
to look into that i think that's usually

1230
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:36,000
very agency's specific data they keep

1231
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,840
that's just a matter of us

1232
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,120
asking for that

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01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:40,000
um

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01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:41,440
but that'll be we could follow up on

1235
01:12:41,440 --> 01:12:42,640
that

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01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,760
and then

1237
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:46,560
last question is do you have capability

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01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:49,280
for when an officer exits the vehicle

1239
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,239
the camera turns on automatically

1240
01:12:52,239 --> 01:12:55,360
yeah we call that a door trigger

1241
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,199
that's an option we've seen a lot of

1242
01:12:57,199 --> 01:12:58,560
canine because their hands are really

1243
01:12:58,560 --> 01:12:59,840
consumable

1244
01:12:59,840 --> 01:13:00,800
you know

1245
01:13:00,800 --> 01:13:02,000
the dog

1246
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,000
the door triggers a possibility and that

1247
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,760
case hasn't worked there what did you

1248
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:06,719
talk about

1249
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:09,580
for a second because on those lines

1250
01:13:09,580 --> 01:13:12,159
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1251
01:13:12,159 --> 01:13:13,679
yeah so talk about that automatic

1252
01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:15,120
obviously you can manually turn this on

1253
01:13:15,120 --> 01:13:17,760
and off that button automatic triggers

1254
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,199
sort of shortness in that moment through

1255
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:21,440
the taser holster the light bar door

1256
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:22,560
trigger

1257
01:13:22,560 --> 01:13:25,920
because these are connected devices

1258
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:27,920
we now have the ability through cad to

1259
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:30,080
activate this specific to that officer

1260
01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:31,360
dispatched

1261
01:13:31,360 --> 01:13:33,760
juries to the call turn on

1262
01:13:33,760 --> 01:13:35,520
the devices he's locked into his body

1263
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:37,199
camera and stable car

1264
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:38,400
um

1265
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,159
once we're dispatched those are actually

1266
01:13:40,159 --> 01:13:42,320
recording the second cat activation

1267
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:44,080
would be through geofence as chief

1268
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:46,640
mentioned so if the call for service is

1269
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:48,719
at one two three main street uh we're

1270
01:13:48,719 --> 01:13:50,000
gonna put a bubble around two three main

1271
01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:51,280
street so we're gonna be in a quarter

1272
01:13:51,280 --> 01:13:54,000
mile from there coming in responding

1273
01:13:54,000 --> 01:13:56,000
everything will then start so we're not

1274
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:56,880
missing

1275
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:58,320
anything we're capturing everyone's

1276
01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:03,110
involvement

1277
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:04,080
so

1278
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:06,480
chief was talking earlier about the

1279
01:14:06,480 --> 01:14:07,600
current

1280
01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,159
about kids we have now and that they

1281
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:12,640
run their life expectancy and they're no

1282
01:14:12,640 --> 01:14:15,040
longer under warranty the

1283
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120
what's you're seeing a five year uh

1284
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:19,520
expectancy you know and what the devices

1285
01:14:19,520 --> 01:14:21,360
being under warranty for that entire

1286
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:23,679
five years so our typical contract is

1287
01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:24,880
five years

1288
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:26,960
the body camera life cycle two and a

1289
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:30,960
half after that we start after two two and a half years we start to see

1290
01:14:30,960 --> 01:14:32,880
battery degradation in terms of not

1291
01:14:32,880 --> 01:14:34,880
being able to support that full twelve

1292
01:14:34,880 --> 01:14:38,080
hours with the prevent buffer so thirty

1293
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,560
two and a half years on the body cameras

1294
01:14:40,560 --> 01:14:43,199
in car five-year life expectancy so what

1295
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:45,760
you'll see is that five-year contract

1296
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:47,520
two refreshes of the body cameras and

1297
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:49,920
the dots so midway through right towards

1298
01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:51,520
the end and on the eight card you're

1299
01:14:51,520 --> 01:14:55,040
gonna see a refresh at your five

1300
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:57,679
so then what about the warranty though

1301
01:14:57,679 --> 01:14:59,120
full five years of warranty on

1302
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:00,080
everything

1303
01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,239
um the refresher started to get warranty

1304
01:15:02,239 --> 01:15:04,880
refreshes and in addition to that that

1305
01:15:04,880 --> 01:15:06,880
we call it the technical assurance plan

1306
01:15:06,880 --> 01:15:09,199
for sure will also include on-site

1307
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,280
spares so officers never going out

1308
01:15:11,280 --> 01:15:13,760
without an operational camera so we'll

1309
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:16,080
have spare cameras on site while these

1310
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,199
are getting

1311
01:15:17,199 --> 01:15:19,520
swapped out is that great

1312
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,159
and then refresh the next generation

1313
01:15:22,159 --> 01:15:23,360
so it's going to be the same generation

1314
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:25,520
of refreshes next generation okay

1315
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:29,030
refreshing the next generation

1316
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,640
of the

1317
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,480
body cameras these are body camera

1318
01:15:32,480 --> 01:15:33,440
threes

1319
01:15:33,440 --> 01:15:42,310
the next one will be 84 85 and then core

1320
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:44,320
does your software integrate with the

1321
01:15:44,320 --> 01:15:46,719
esri system in order to have it

1322
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:48,560
automatically downloaded and put into

1323
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:49,280
that

1324
01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:53,600
which system esri gis

1325
01:15:53,600 --> 01:15:55,760
i'm not familiar with that it would

1326
01:15:55,760 --> 01:15:59,120
integrate with the calcium system

1327
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:01,520
so in order to retract data we could

1328
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:13,750
protect it from the pulsing system

1329
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:14,640
so

1330
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:16,080
you were saying that there's a mechanism

1331
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,080
for a citizen you know they can get a

1332
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:20,480
text message which is like for a lack of

1333
01:16:20,480 --> 01:16:22,640
version like a link for them to send in

1334
01:16:22,640 --> 01:16:24,320
photos or videos or something that they

1335
01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:25,280
witness

1336
01:16:25,280 --> 01:16:26,640
now that

1337
01:16:26,640 --> 01:16:28,880
is that link operates one way correct

1338
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:30,880
like in other words like that link and

1339
01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:32,000
clicking that link isn't given

1340
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:35,040
permission to access that citizens only

1341
01:16:35,040 --> 01:16:37,679
the photos and videos that they

1342
01:16:37,679 --> 01:16:40,560
completely one way and it expires

1343
01:16:40,560 --> 01:16:43,440
so from a generic you know 672 number

1344
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:45,360
will make it up i'll get it click that

1345
01:16:45,360 --> 01:16:46,800
link and

1346
01:16:46,800 --> 01:16:49,040
provide that evidence they can't respond

1347
01:16:49,040 --> 01:16:51,280
to the officer's open communication it

1348
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:53,280
will then you know expire and they'll

1349
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:55,040
already be usable

1350
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:57,280
what's that

1351
01:16:57,280 --> 01:16:59,520
what happens to all the video and data

1352
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:02,480
that's uploaded into your system if

1353
01:17:02,480 --> 01:17:03,840
let's say after

1354
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:06,560
the contract is over we decide to go a

1355
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:08,480
different vendor what happens to that

1356
01:17:08,480 --> 01:17:10,640
yeah great question so everything we do

1357
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,920
is nothing's proprietary um you own your

1358
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:14,880
evidence

1359
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:17,520
of all of your evidence is yours and so

1360
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,760
you've got a couple of ways you can

1361
01:17:19,760 --> 01:17:22,640
download it so if you've got another

1362
01:17:22,640 --> 01:17:24,880
area you want to bring that into you can

1363
01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,040
do that you know that's at no cost we

1364
01:17:27,040 --> 01:17:29,520
also provide our api tools to you so

1365
01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,760
you've got another cloud provider you

1366
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:32,960
can

1367
01:17:32,960 --> 01:17:34,159
with some simple you know empty

1368
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,239
background through our tutorial

1369
01:17:36,239 --> 01:17:38,640
you'll move it that way the third and

1370
01:17:38,640 --> 01:17:40,719
that's at no cost the third way third

1371
01:17:40,719 --> 01:17:43,040
option is if you say you know exxon can

1372
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:44,480
you help us roll up your sleeves what

1373
01:17:44,480 --> 01:17:46,800
would it cost for you know x amount of

1374
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,719
days to help us move it from here to

1375
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:49,520
here

1376
01:17:49,520 --> 01:17:50,400
um

1377
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:54,239
that would be the cost option there

1378
01:17:54,239 --> 01:17:56,320
have a question about your taser yeah

1379
01:17:56,320 --> 01:17:58,239
well more about officer training so what

1380
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,320
does the training look like and is there

1381
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:04,880
something once they're trained that you know give them a test basically to

1382
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,360
know that they

1383
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:08,480
know how to use the problem no

1384
01:18:08,480 --> 01:18:10,640
absolutely so um training is once per

1385
01:18:10,640 --> 01:18:13,520
year uh for the taser 7 over the course

1386
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:15,280
of the five years though at the minimum

1387
01:18:15,280 --> 01:18:17,840
have to fire 28 training cartridges

1388
01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:20,400
and they also have to do a written and

1389
01:18:20,400 --> 01:18:22,719
it's a comprehensive

1390
01:18:22,719 --> 01:18:24,560
portion back on it's we call it axon

1391
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:26,320
academy so it's about four hours of

1392
01:18:26,320 --> 01:18:28,960
coursework um that is in addition to

1393
01:18:28,960 --> 01:18:30,800
firing the taser cartridges it's about a

1394
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:32,000
full day

1395
01:18:32,000 --> 01:18:34,159
and so our current officers would just

1396
01:18:34,159 --> 01:18:35,600
would would be

1397
01:18:35,600 --> 01:18:37,280
would you get that too

1398
01:18:37,280 --> 01:18:39,280
yeah everybody that carries a taser has

1399
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:40,719
to do this once per year

1400
01:18:40,719 --> 01:18:42,560
in order to be able to carry a taser now

1401
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:44,159
the nice thing is with that vr system

1402
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:45,760
that's in addition to all of this too so

1403
01:18:45,760 --> 01:18:47,840
they can just put a headset on and

1404
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:50,400
be in a variety of different situations

1405
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,159
where it could be from a traffic stop to

1406
01:18:52,159 --> 01:18:54,719
a drug overdose it's in there and you

1407
01:18:54,719 --> 01:18:56,320
know it could be even at fire you know

1408
01:18:56,320 --> 01:18:57,600
we have different levels for the firing

1409
01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,360
range we have an actual range then we

1410
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:00,719
have um

1411
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:02,000
different types of threats that could be

1412
01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,239
involved uh to raise the skill level

1413
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,239
that would be needed uh for the taser

1414
01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:07,360
audience

1415
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,719
thank you someone else mr williams uh so

1416
01:19:10,719 --> 01:19:12,080
councilman patrick and i had the

1417
01:19:12,080 --> 01:19:13,679
opportunity to attend your brief

1418
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:14,960
training earlier and definitely

1419
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:16,800
appreciate you providing them with us

1420
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,480
access i wanted to know if chief

1421
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:20,480
clifford or acc or if you're able to

1422
01:19:20,480 --> 01:19:22,320
talk to something that's an important

1423
01:19:22,320 --> 01:19:24,159
component of it the administrative time

1424
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:25,760
that's saved where we traditionally

1425
01:19:25,760 --> 01:19:27,440
think of police officers responding to

1426
01:19:27,440 --> 01:19:29,440
events but definitely there is a

1427
01:19:29,440 --> 01:19:31,360
workload of paperwork that's attributed

1428
01:19:31,360 --> 01:19:33,840
and how this will help with some of that

1429
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:35,360
workload

1430
01:19:35,360 --> 01:19:37,280
i'll touch on the teaser part real quick

1431
01:19:37,280 --> 01:19:38,719
here so on the

1432
01:19:38,719 --> 01:19:40,800
every previous generation taser it was

1433
01:19:40,800 --> 01:19:42,560
just like herself on it every to do an

1434
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:44,239
update we had to plug it in our

1435
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:45,920
recommendation was to do quarterly

1436
01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:48,239
updates uh if there was ever an incident

1437
01:19:48,239 --> 01:19:50,000
with a taser where there's a malfunction

1438
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:51,199
first thing our tech support team is

1439
01:19:51,199 --> 01:19:52,320
going to ask is when was the last time

1440
01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:53,840
you updated the firmware software right

1441
01:19:53,840 --> 01:19:54,960
just like your phone if you don't do it

1442
01:19:54,960 --> 01:19:56,560
if you want the software on the computer

1443
01:19:56,560 --> 01:19:57,920
it starts to

1444
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:00,320
be a little wonky the way it works right

1445
01:20:00,320 --> 01:20:01,440
so the nice thing about our taser

1446
01:20:01,440 --> 01:20:02,800
whether it's new ones

1447
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,159
there's no more plugging in and doing

1448
01:20:04,159 --> 01:20:06,159
any of that with rechargeable battery

1449
01:20:06,159 --> 01:20:07,600
when they're put in the docking station

1450
01:20:07,600 --> 01:20:08,960
we're getting automatic software and

1451
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:10,639
firmware updates and they're done our

1452
01:20:10,639 --> 01:20:12,320
recommendation is to dock these once per

1453
01:20:12,320 --> 01:20:14,080
month so they're getting 12 updates over

1454
01:20:14,080 --> 01:20:16,159
here so it's always going to be optimal

1455
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:17,600
what the health

1456
01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:19,199
for our weapons

1457
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,360
on the body camera side they're all body

1458
01:20:21,360 --> 01:20:23,199
camera and the fleet in there as well

1459
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:24,480
uh traditionally when you work

1460
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:26,639
technology it's always additional work

1461
01:20:26,639 --> 01:20:27,760
and time

1462
01:20:27,760 --> 01:20:30,159
and so what we've done is kind of with

1463
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:32,560
this and our software as part of the

1464
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,480
package is the other areas in which we

1465
01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,639
give that all of our time back so for

1466
01:20:36,639 --> 01:20:38,639
example

1467
01:20:38,639 --> 01:20:40,880
this camera after a traffic stop

1468
01:20:40,880 --> 01:20:43,040
interaction when the officer walks back

1469
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,760
to the vehicle and has evidence.com up

1470
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:47,199
he can see the transcript of what

1471
01:20:47,199 --> 01:20:48,480
unfolded

1472
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:49,440
um

1473
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:51,840
so he can you know better understand you

1474
01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:53,600
know exactly what was said what he said

1475
01:20:53,600 --> 01:20:55,520
and what the suspect said

1476
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:56,480
driver

1477
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:59,040
um but then it also provides you know

1478
01:20:59,040 --> 01:21:01,280
them the ability to

1479
01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:02,400
talk to

1480
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:04,159
the camera before they can talk to the

1481
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:05,360
mdt

1482
01:21:05,360 --> 01:21:06,719
to write their reports so typically this

1483
01:21:06,719 --> 01:21:08,639
is a process where they you know write

1484
01:21:08,639 --> 01:21:09,920
you know

1485
01:21:09,920 --> 01:21:11,360
what happened what was said and like

1486
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:13,280
writing they saw what they smelled they

1487
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,120
can talk to the mdt it's going to

1488
01:21:15,120 --> 01:21:17,280
transcribe what they're saying and copy

1489
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,280
and paste it put it into the record

1490
01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,159
and

1491
01:21:20,159 --> 01:21:21,600
um

1492
01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:23,280
so we're talking about saving a ton of

1493
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:25,600
time the auto tagging feature typically

1494
01:21:25,600 --> 01:21:27,280
that's you know my body camera i got

1495
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:28,639
attacked back got my main car i got

1496
01:21:28,639 --> 01:21:30,880
tagged that and then the back seat video

1497
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:32,560
that attack that is rolled

1498
01:21:32,560 --> 01:21:34,560
this lumps it together and then it gets

1499
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,600
auto tagged auto tagging saves about 200

1500
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,360
per month per officer

1501
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:40,560
um

1502
01:21:40,560 --> 01:21:42,719
from our case studies on that you have a

1503
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:44,800
tagging piece and then it really gets

1504
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,719
into the time to redact

1505
01:21:46,719 --> 01:21:48,719
so an hour's worth of footage takes

1506
01:21:48,719 --> 01:21:50,400
eight hours to redact to the point we

1507
01:21:50,400 --> 01:21:51,840
can hand it over

1508
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:54,080
the ai tools have really brought that

1509
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:57,040
down to you know two hours

1510
01:21:57,040 --> 01:22:00,320
to be able to you know fully adapt that

1511
01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:02,960
and then it's really around the evidence

1512
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:04,320
sharing

1513
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,560
elements where you're able to share

1514
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:07,920
these large case files without going to

1515
01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,679
all these different silos and different

1516
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:12,159
codecs and burning and dvds and thumb

1517
01:22:12,159 --> 01:22:14,000
drives that are driving them around

1518
01:22:14,000 --> 01:22:16,239
where it's brought in in any format

1519
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:17,360
brought in here through part and

1520
01:22:17,360 --> 01:22:18,400
evidence

1521
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,320
create the case right click and you can

1522
01:22:20,320 --> 01:22:22,560
share it inside the agency with

1523
01:22:22,560 --> 01:22:31,510
the va

1524
01:22:31,520 --> 01:22:33,520
so um

1525
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:35,760
around your uh the virtual

1526
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:38,400
reality trainings and

1527
01:22:38,400 --> 01:22:40,159
those scenarios i know that you know the

1528
01:22:40,159 --> 01:22:42,080
chief has been working um

1529
01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,159
hard to

1530
01:22:44,159 --> 01:22:45,199
make sure that

1531
01:22:45,199 --> 01:22:47,280
officers are going through you know

1532
01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:50,560
anti-bias training

1533
01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,320
do you know any of the partners that

1534
01:22:52,320 --> 01:22:53,920
you're working with from the university

1535
01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:55,520
have you know has there been any

1536
01:22:55,520 --> 01:22:59,360
intentional um uh development as far as

1537
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,120
early you could switch race switch

1538
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,760
gender um you know is that is there any

1539
01:23:03,760 --> 01:23:06,400
intentionality around not reinforcing or

1540
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:09,120
perpetuating existing biases that happen

1541
01:23:09,120 --> 01:23:12,719
that can have disproportionate outcomes

1542
01:23:12,719 --> 01:23:14,560
i have that you know doug's on the cusp

1543
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,679
of that with teaser in the er

1544
01:23:17,679 --> 01:23:18,800
yeah

1545
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:19,840
to answer your question i mean we're

1546
01:23:19,840 --> 01:23:21,360
constantly coming out with new modules

1547
01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,560
and one of the nice things with the

1548
01:23:22,560 --> 01:23:24,159
system uh

1549
01:23:24,159 --> 01:23:25,520
we're taking feedback directly from our

1550
01:23:25,520 --> 01:23:26,800
customers and creating these modules

1551
01:23:26,800 --> 01:23:28,000
based on what

1552
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:31,280
they're asking to be presented right so

1553
01:23:31,280 --> 01:23:33,040
i'll bring up a couple years ago there

1554
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,520
was a lot of protests and

1555
01:23:35,520 --> 01:23:37,120
um

1556
01:23:37,120 --> 01:23:38,800
situations like that we were able to

1557
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:40,480
create a module

1558
01:23:40,480 --> 01:23:43,440
30 days we had one out um

1559
01:23:43,440 --> 01:23:44,960
based just on that right and the same

1560
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:45,760
thing

1561
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:48,320
is current events pop up um you know it

1562
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,320
could be uh yeah peer-to-peer is another

1563
01:23:50,320 --> 01:23:52,159
one and you'll i don't know if uh you

1564
01:23:52,159 --> 01:23:54,000
noticed on the slide before but we had

1565
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,520
we haven't broke the three now period of

1566
01:23:55,520 --> 01:23:58,239
here uh intervention once so

1567
01:23:58,239 --> 01:24:00,080
just to kind of keep it you know keep it

1568
01:24:00,080 --> 01:24:02,159
moving and change it up so it's a little

1569
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:03,360
different module

1570
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:04,480
one thing to know on the community

1571
01:24:04,480 --> 01:24:05,840
engagement side too so these are real

1572
01:24:05,840 --> 01:24:09,520
people in in real world settings um the

1573
01:24:09,520 --> 01:24:12,000
simulator side is they're all animated

1574
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,440
cool thing with it though is

1575
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,040
we're able to create literally unlimited

1576
01:24:15,040 --> 01:24:17,440
outcomes with it we're on the community

1577
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:19,360
engagement side these are fixed outcomes

1578
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:20,320
it's kind of like choose your own

1579
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:21,840
adventure if you will

1580
01:24:21,840 --> 01:24:23,040
we have

1581
01:24:23,040 --> 01:24:24,400
it'll pause and you'll have three

1582
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:25,679
different outcomes that you can choose

1583
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:26,639
each one is going to bring you down a

1584
01:24:26,639 --> 01:24:28,000
different path so each one of those

1585
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,520
community engagement modules has about

1586
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:32,000
30 different ways it could play out um

1587
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:33,040
and they're all

1588
01:24:33,040 --> 01:24:34,800
eight to ten minutes long so you know an

1589
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,239
officer could throw a headset on during

1590
01:24:36,239 --> 01:24:38,000
roll call as they're waiting in line

1591
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:39,440
with these taser research you know a

1592
01:24:39,440 --> 01:24:42,320
number of situations um but yeah it's

1593
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:44,560
your point though um

1594
01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:46,880
our library is constantly expanding and

1595
01:24:46,880 --> 01:24:48,480
we're trying to hit on some of the most

1596
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:49,840
important topics right now and obviously

1597
01:24:49,840 --> 01:24:51,120
that's gonna be you know one of them for

1598
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:53,679
sure so

1599
01:24:53,679 --> 01:24:55,679
not out yet but probably within you know

1600
01:24:55,679 --> 01:24:57,280
i'd say within the next six months for

1601
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,280
sure they're pumping things out pretty

1602
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,080
quickly we get an email every single week with

1603
01:25:02,080 --> 01:25:04,080
uh with our new hires and all these

1604
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,840
engineers on our vr team are based up in

1605
01:25:05,840 --> 01:25:06,800
seattle

1606
01:25:06,800 --> 01:25:08,800
kind of like the tech capital of the

1607
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:10,480
country anywhere right

1608
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,159
and half of these new hires are your

1609
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:14,400
team so it's just growing at a rapid

1610
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:15,920
pace right now

1611
01:25:15,920 --> 01:25:16,960
um

1612
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:18,960
so what are your camera capabilities

1613
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,920
with drones and or remote control

1614
01:25:21,920 --> 01:25:24,080
vehicles and also do your

1615
01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:28,159
cameras pick up heat signatures

1616
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:30,159
so the body cameras

1617
01:25:30,159 --> 01:25:31,920
and the in-car cameras and their gamers

1618
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:33,840
don't pick up heat signatures

1619
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:34,639
um

1620
01:25:34,639 --> 01:25:36,719
but what about drones or the remote

1621
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:38,000
controls

1622
01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:40,639
are the latest generation of that so

1623
01:25:40,639 --> 01:25:43,520
we've got a partnership with dji

1624
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:45,679
um as well as uh there are two other

1625
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:48,000
photo kite and

1626
01:25:48,000 --> 01:25:50,480
skydio girls so the three main events

1627
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:52,239
we're like we are long

1628
01:25:52,239 --> 01:25:54,560
premiere provider for that on top of

1629
01:25:54,560 --> 01:25:56,480
those best and brief technologies that

1630
01:25:56,480 --> 01:25:59,280
include infrared clear

1631
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,360
rapid deployed smaller deployed drones

1632
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,360
or larger

1633
01:26:03,360 --> 01:26:04,960
drones

1634
01:26:04,960 --> 01:26:06,480
we provide

1635
01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:08,400
many many options on the hardware side

1636
01:26:08,400 --> 01:26:10,159
we layer on top of that

1637
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,880
our drone sense software

1638
01:26:12,880 --> 01:26:15,679
and so it feeds and uploads and live

1639
01:26:15,679 --> 01:26:18,239
streams directly to evidence.com on the

1640
01:26:18,239 --> 01:26:20,560
backend so it's just another large area

1641
01:26:20,560 --> 01:26:22,719
of digital evidence that's

1642
01:26:22,719 --> 01:26:24,719
right now very you know hot you know for

1643
01:26:24,719 --> 01:26:27,520
search and rescue for patrol that you

1644
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:30,800
know when you're having a protest

1645
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,880
in body cameras you can really see where

1646
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,880
things are moving get ahead of them

1647
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:37,440
all on our axon respond which is where

1648
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:39,600
the live streaming evac playback is i'm

1649
01:26:39,600 --> 01:26:40,480
making

1650
01:26:40,480 --> 01:26:42,800
deployment into a building pick up a

1651
01:26:42,800 --> 01:26:45,520
heat signature find out where maybe

1652
01:26:45,520 --> 01:26:47,120
there's weapons

1653
01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:49,280
we're doing it today

1654
01:26:49,280 --> 01:26:51,440
with our solution so

1655
01:26:51,440 --> 01:26:56,790
that's absolute ability

1656
01:26:56,800 --> 01:26:59,830
any other questions

1657
01:26:59,840 --> 01:27:03,750
people want to wrap it up yes

1658
01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,040
so

1659
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:06,560
one of the reasons why we're here today

1660
01:27:06,560 --> 01:27:09,199
with this presentation is that

1661
01:27:09,199 --> 01:27:12,400
on an individual basis body cameras in

1662
01:27:12,400 --> 01:27:14,000
car videos

1663
01:27:14,000 --> 01:27:15,120
training

1664
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:17,040
we we've already come to the council

1665
01:27:17,040 --> 01:27:18,560
we've already spoken to the mayor about

1666
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,040
funding for each individual one bringing

1667
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:24,719
this all together under one platform

1668
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:26,400
you know the mayor and i spoke about

1669
01:27:26,400 --> 01:27:28,239
transparency as being a part of our

1670
01:27:28,239 --> 01:27:29,600
police reform

1671
01:27:29,600 --> 01:27:31,120
commitment

1672
01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,280
that we agreed uh that the council

1673
01:27:33,280 --> 01:27:35,040
passed over a year and a half or about a

1674
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,120
year and a half ago so that's the reason

1675
01:27:37,120 --> 01:27:39,199
why we're here today uh discussing this

1676
01:27:39,199 --> 01:27:40,159
is that

1677
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:42,639
we want to be fully transparent um about

1678
01:27:42,639 --> 01:27:44,320
where we're going with this technology

1679
01:27:44,320 --> 01:27:45,360
and why

1680
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,040
and i really appreciate all the

1681
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,520
questions and the engagement here and

1682
01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:51,679
any feedback that we can receive thank

1683
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:54,239
you thank you thank you everybody

1684
01:27:54,239 --> 01:27:57,350
thank you

1685
01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:58,719
get out in time i'll come over and try

1686
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:26,950
the taser

1687
01:28:26,960 --> 01:28:29,199
can we do finance and government

1688
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:32,159
yes okay so um mr muveira has to leave

1689
01:28:32,159 --> 01:28:34,000
as well so first we'll do finance then

1690
01:28:34,000 --> 01:28:35,120
we're gonna move to government ops

1691
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:36,400
because then it'll be on the two of us

1692
01:28:36,400 --> 01:28:39,520
on the committee so um go ahead

1693
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:41,199
order finance committee the first item

1694
01:28:41,199 --> 01:28:43,280
is the 2022 budget amendment for the

1695
01:28:43,280 --> 01:29:00,630
fire department chief mourinho

1696
01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,830
[Music]

1697
01:29:03,840 --> 01:29:05,679
so here tonight to speak to everyone

1698
01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:08,239
about our arts indication

1699
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:10,960
just a little background the artisan

1700
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:14,000
division right now is a four-person

1701
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:15,120
division

1702
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:17,760
there's a deputy chief of two tenants

1703
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:21,350
and a firefighter

1704
01:29:21,360 --> 01:29:24,159
all of them either are or will be

1705
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:26,960
full-fledged partisan investigators

1706
01:29:26,960 --> 01:29:29,440
so uh when we get a fire now we'll call

1707
01:29:29,440 --> 01:29:32,000
in one of the arts and investigators

1708
01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:33,840
and um

1709
01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,840
two of them are current one's a

1710
01:29:35,840 --> 01:29:37,520
firefighter i will command and the other

1711
01:29:37,520 --> 01:29:40,400
one is a lieutenant

1712
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:43,120
there are times when that firefighter

1713
01:29:43,120 --> 01:29:45,360
needs to make some decisions

1714
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:50,080
and it's not at his authority level

1715
01:29:50,080 --> 01:29:52,880
so we may have to call in the lieutenant

1716
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:54,560
or the deputy chief

1717
01:29:54,560 --> 01:29:56,480
to make those decisions

1718
01:29:56,480 --> 01:29:58,480
so we propose to change that

1719
01:29:58,480 --> 01:30:00,960
firefighter's position's title

1720
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:02,880
from a firefighter and make that

1721
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,800
position of lieutenant's position

1722
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,120
it makes sense it gives that person

1723
01:30:09,120 --> 01:30:10,880
the authority to do the investigation

1724
01:30:10,880 --> 01:30:12,800
without additional help there are times

1725
01:30:12,800 --> 01:30:15,840
he still will need to bring in another

1726
01:30:15,840 --> 01:30:18,000
investigator depending on the scope of

1727
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:21,189
the investigation

1728
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:22,560
currently the person that's in the

1729
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:25,040
firefighter's position has been there

1730
01:30:25,040 --> 01:30:27,920
a good 12 years if not longer

1731
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:30,719
highly qualified

1732
01:30:30,719 --> 01:30:33,040
he does besides the partisan part of his

1733
01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:34,480
duties are

1734
01:30:34,480 --> 01:30:38,070
special operations

1735
01:30:38,080 --> 01:30:39,920
now i don't

1736
01:30:39,920 --> 01:30:42,159
when we make this position we'll have to

1737
01:30:42,159 --> 01:30:43,760
go up for promotion

1738
01:30:43,760 --> 01:30:46,000
that person is on the list he's number

1739
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:46,960
one

1740
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:49,920
not saying he's going to be promoted um

1741
01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,280
because we have other people that we

1742
01:30:51,280 --> 01:30:53,760
have to interview also

1743
01:30:53,760 --> 01:30:55,360
because the person doing the job now has

1744
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:57,040
been doing it a long time highly

1745
01:30:57,040 --> 01:30:59,360
qualified he's up for promotion

1746
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,600
maybe he makes a promotion

1747
01:31:01,600 --> 01:31:03,600
the main thing we're asking is that we

1748
01:31:03,600 --> 01:31:04,880
change that position from the

1749
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,800
firefighter to lieutenants

1750
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:08,560
will save us a little money

1751
01:31:08,560 --> 01:31:10,560
finance uh

1752
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,960
informs me that it's budget it's a

1753
01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:14,880
budget neutral right now so it's not

1754
01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:18,149
going to be an impact

1755
01:31:18,159 --> 01:31:21,040
so that's what i'm here to propose

1756
01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:23,520
chief under the revised budget uh filled

1757
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,920
number of months can you address the 0.5

1758
01:31:25,920 --> 01:31:31,770
1.25 position

1759
01:31:31,780 --> 01:31:42,840
[Music]

1760
01:31:42,840 --> 01:31:45,920
yeah it's happening right yes

1761
01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:47,520
because we're already into the year it's

1762
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:50,480
june by the time this happens so there

1763
01:31:50,480 --> 01:31:52,159
is a

1764
01:31:52,159 --> 01:31:53,280
between the lieutenant and the

1765
01:31:53,280 --> 01:31:55,520
firefighter there's a differential it's

1766
01:31:55,520 --> 01:31:57,760
an eight percent differential

1767
01:31:57,760 --> 01:32:00,080
so that position now will receive more

1768
01:32:00,080 --> 01:32:02,719
money than he would as a firefighter

1769
01:32:02,719 --> 01:32:05,360
okay it's only a half a year that's why

1770
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:07,760
there's a differential but

1771
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:11,199
speaking with finance director

1772
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:14,239
he feels we feel that

1773
01:32:14,239 --> 01:32:16,400
by making that person a lieutenant not

1774
01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:18,239
having to call him additional help could

1775
01:32:18,239 --> 01:32:21,679
be some savings in in overtime

1776
01:32:21,679 --> 01:32:24,639
and we're not talking a lot of money

1777
01:32:24,639 --> 01:32:38,629
we should

1778
01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:40,719
the next item is the 2022 budget

1779
01:32:40,719 --> 01:32:42,880
reappropriation for the code enforcement

1780
01:32:42,880 --> 01:32:52,229
department mr lam

1781
01:32:52,239 --> 01:32:54,880
thank you council

1782
01:32:54,880 --> 01:32:58,080
i'm proposing to put on a full-time

1783
01:32:58,080 --> 01:33:01,120
assistant building inspector for uh code

1784
01:33:01,120 --> 01:33:02,560
enforcement

1785
01:33:02,560 --> 01:33:05,120
currently we're running uh an assistant

1786
01:33:05,120 --> 01:33:09,600
that's a part time three days a week and

1787
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:12,880
not here from november until january

1788
01:33:12,880 --> 01:33:15,040
um he's actually just put in his

1789
01:33:15,040 --> 01:33:16,719
resignation so

1790
01:33:16,719 --> 01:33:18,880
we really need to have a back up for my

1791
01:33:18,880 --> 01:33:20,400
uh position

1792
01:33:20,400 --> 01:33:21,679
and here some somebody that's

1793
01:33:21,679 --> 01:33:23,840
responsible here

1794
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:25,199
when i'm not

1795
01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:28,790
available

1796
01:33:28,800 --> 01:33:33,669
it's budget neutral

1797
01:33:33,679 --> 01:33:35,360
go ahead please

1798
01:33:35,360 --> 01:33:37,600
um so you're moving

1799
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:39,440
someone from a code enforcement officer

1800
01:33:39,440 --> 01:33:42,159
to this position is that correct

1801
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:43,360
uh

1802
01:33:43,360 --> 01:33:44,560
we're going to look at the best

1803
01:33:44,560 --> 01:33:45,760
candidates

1804
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:47,679
well i don't mean a specific person i

1805
01:33:47,679 --> 01:33:50,560
just meant generally so um how does

1806
01:33:50,560 --> 01:33:53,280
first of all are there currently um 10

1807
01:33:53,280 --> 01:33:55,040
code enforcement officers do your

1808
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:57,440
current other positions all filled

1809
01:33:57,440 --> 01:33:59,600
no there should be 14 but now there's

1810
01:33:59,600 --> 01:34:02,000
six okay so there's six currently so

1811
01:34:02,000 --> 01:34:04,400
losing one will do what to

1812
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:05,920
the

1813
01:34:05,920 --> 01:34:08,239
person who the you know the staff of

1814
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:10,560
co-enforcement out there doing the work

1815
01:34:10,560 --> 01:34:11,840
i mean they're all doing work but you

1816
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:14,400
know actually going so so this this

1817
01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,320
person will actually be out he'll be

1818
01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,719
working at the until until we become

1819
01:34:18,719 --> 01:34:21,679
full capacity they'll still be doing

1820
01:34:21,679 --> 01:34:24,400
other work as a code officer

1821
01:34:24,400 --> 01:34:27,120
but assuming responsibilities and you

1822
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:28,880
know moving up into a manageable

1823
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,070
position

1824
01:34:30,070 --> 01:34:31,440
[Music]

1825
01:34:31,440 --> 01:34:34,159
until we fill up you know make the

1826
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:36,880
appropriate appeals

1827
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,159
thank you

1828
01:34:38,159 --> 01:34:41,189
any other questions

1829
01:34:41,199 --> 01:34:47,109
all in favor aye thank you

1830
01:34:47,119 --> 01:34:48,960
the next item is allocating twenty

1831
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,480
thousand cdbg slash cv3 funding to feed

1832
01:34:52,480 --> 01:34:55,040
albany inc mccarthy

1833
01:34:55,040 --> 01:34:58,239
thank you mr chairman uh these requests

1834
01:34:58,239 --> 01:35:01,119
brought forth to me were feed albany

1835
01:35:01,119 --> 01:35:02,719
it's an

1836
01:35:02,719 --> 01:35:05,280
acronym involved out of covet where the

1837
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:09,360
kitchen and always preparing meals for

1838
01:35:09,360 --> 01:35:13,360
communities across the capitol district

1839
01:35:13,360 --> 01:35:15,760
some of the information is detailed in

1840
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:16,880
the

1841
01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:20,480
narrative that's provided

1842
01:35:20,480 --> 01:35:22,800
the program in schenectady will run out

1843
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:24,960
of money roughly at the end of this

1844
01:35:24,960 --> 01:35:26,239
month

1845
01:35:26,239 --> 01:35:27,440
and so

1846
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:28,960
the uh

1847
01:35:28,960 --> 01:35:31,840
twenty thousand dollars is an amount

1848
01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:33,600
that would get it through

1849
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,520
the end of the year

1850
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:38,320
allowing them to uh

1851
01:35:38,320 --> 01:35:40,239
again continue at the level that they've

1852
01:35:40,239 --> 01:35:41,360
been doing

1853
01:35:41,360 --> 01:35:42,400
for

1854
01:35:42,400 --> 01:35:50,870
the last year and a half

1855
01:35:50,880 --> 01:35:51,840
go ahead

1856
01:35:51,840 --> 01:35:53,280
somewhere at some point i'm going to get

1857
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:54,719
a more inclusive name

1858
01:35:54,719 --> 01:35:56,960
i'm sorry at some point we'll get a more

1859
01:35:56,960 --> 01:36:00,080
inclusive name uh they are looking to uh

1860
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:05,669
rebrand that

1861
01:36:05,679 --> 01:36:12,320
uh my name is matthew peter i'm

1862
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:14,639
president of the board of food albany um

1863
01:36:14,639 --> 01:36:16,320
we were asked to come to schneckte about

1864
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,719
a year and a half ago by the samantha

1865
01:36:18,719 --> 01:36:19,840
police department which we had

1866
01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,080
established this program um at the very

1867
01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,159
beginning of coded

1868
01:36:24,159 --> 01:36:26,480
specifically it started off with

1869
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:27,840
foreign restaurant employees who were

1870
01:36:27,840 --> 01:36:29,679
laid off we were very worried about that

1871
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:31,119
i'm actually the county legislator who

1872
01:36:31,119 --> 01:36:33,520
represents luxury in albany so i met

1873
01:36:33,520 --> 01:36:34,880
with some restaurant owners we started

1874
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,040
preparing meals so that those who are

1875
01:36:37,040 --> 01:36:39,199
very dependent on

1876
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:41,119
you know daily income while they're

1877
01:36:41,119 --> 01:36:43,040
waiting for unemployment weren't going

1878
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,960
hungry at the same time we started

1879
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:47,360
hearing about uh people in

1880
01:36:47,360 --> 01:36:49,040
eastern albany the only housing

1881
01:36:49,040 --> 01:36:50,480
authority where people were stuck in

1882
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:52,320
dorsey couldn't get out to get food they

1883
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,000
can get nutritious meals and we want to

1884
01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:56,320
focus on that and then about a year into

1885
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:57,600
our work

1886
01:36:57,600 --> 01:37:00,480
after we were established 501c3

1887
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:02,960
we were reached out to you by cnxdpd and

1888
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:05,040
been working with them on two different

1889
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,440
uh styles one is the curbside program

1890
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:09,199
we're already doing deliveries right so

1891
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:10,800
we're based out of albany but we're

1892
01:37:10,800 --> 01:37:12,960
making delivery specifically with albany

1893
01:37:12,960 --> 01:37:15,760
med's cancer survivorship program

1894
01:37:15,760 --> 01:37:17,600
um for those who are suffering from

1895
01:37:17,600 --> 01:37:19,440
disabilities who need meals

1896
01:37:19,440 --> 01:37:21,280
and so we expanded the program and we

1897
01:37:21,280 --> 01:37:23,920
also are connected with schenectady

1898
01:37:23,920 --> 01:37:25,760
community college with their culinary

1899
01:37:25,760 --> 01:37:27,840
program and we work with them union

1900
01:37:27,840 --> 01:37:29,280
college students help us deliver the

1901
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:31,199
meals and obviously the semester police

1902
01:37:31,199 --> 01:37:32,639
department is key

1903
01:37:32,639 --> 01:37:35,440
the long basically we got hit sort of in

1904
01:37:35,440 --> 01:37:37,440
a triple factor which is why we're sort

1905
01:37:37,440 --> 01:37:38,719
of asking some of our partner

1906
01:37:38,719 --> 01:37:40,560
communities for help

1907
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:41,760
one

1908
01:37:41,760 --> 01:37:45,040
when we started we were mostly volunteer

1909
01:37:45,040 --> 01:37:47,280
we had volunteer cook

1910
01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,119
we have volunteer cooks we have massive

1911
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:51,600
donations of food from cisco and things

1912
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,040
of that nature

1913
01:37:53,040 --> 01:37:55,760
and then since then we now pay

1914
01:37:55,760 --> 01:37:57,360
you know some people we have to pay for

1915
01:37:57,360 --> 01:37:58,800
all the food and food prices to come

1916
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:00,080
about 20

1917
01:38:00,080 --> 01:38:02,400
we do pay a part-time chef we are

1918
01:38:02,400 --> 01:38:06,239
obviously a volunteer board no there's no payment there but we

1919
01:38:06,239 --> 01:38:07,840
basically have three part-time employees

1920
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:10,080
a part-time chef a part-time executive

1921
01:38:10,080 --> 01:38:11,679
director as well for their finance

1922
01:38:11,679 --> 01:38:14,000
boards up and our part-time volunteer

1923
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,520
coordinator

1924
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:17,040
distribution of meals and getting that

1925
01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:18,880
there so we're a pretty bare bones

1926
01:38:18,880 --> 01:38:20,560
organization but we've had to make the

1927
01:38:20,560 --> 01:38:23,119
choice that as donations have decreased

1928
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:25,840
both financially and in food we've had

1929
01:38:25,840 --> 01:38:27,440
to make the difficult decision that we

1930
01:38:27,440 --> 01:38:29,199
have to start going to a core mission of

1931
01:38:29,199 --> 01:38:30,880
how we can continue doing this for as

1932
01:38:30,880 --> 01:38:32,320
long as possible

1933
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,840
because the need specifically wants food

1934
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,520
and security is not going away

1935
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:37,360
it's just that it's not on people's mind

1936
01:38:37,360 --> 01:38:38,320
as much

1937
01:38:38,320 --> 01:38:39,600
so this is going to allow us to move

1938
01:38:39,600 --> 01:38:41,920
forward but um

1939
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:43,440
to your point

1940
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:45,360
the long-term goal is to have each of

1941
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:47,440
these sort of sub-branches start being

1942
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:49,600
independent if we can establish it so

1943
01:38:49,600 --> 01:38:51,119
there might be like a feed capital

1944
01:38:51,119 --> 01:38:53,040
region or fetal umbrella but there would

1945
01:38:53,040 --> 01:38:55,360
be a feed schenectady as long as we can

1946
01:38:55,360 --> 01:38:57,199
get our feet under us

1947
01:38:57,199 --> 01:38:59,360
in the short term we've applied to

1948
01:38:59,360 --> 01:39:00,719
senator schumer's office for federal

1949
01:39:00,719 --> 01:39:02,719
grants and we've been looking to work

1950
01:39:02,719 --> 01:39:04,719
with the seneca police department the

1951
01:39:04,719 --> 01:39:06,560
mayor and obviously the common council

1952
01:39:06,560 --> 01:39:08,320
that we're successful in establishing

1953
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,280
the presence to make it long-term viable

1954
01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,840
the reason we came here is we also get

1955
01:39:13,840 --> 01:39:16,000
approximately fifty thousand dollars um

1956
01:39:16,000 --> 01:39:17,679
in federal grants actually from the city

1957
01:39:17,679 --> 01:39:19,360
of albany and we thought that was a way

1958
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:20,719
that we could continue doing this in a

1959
01:39:20,719 --> 01:39:22,719
sustainable way while we also

1960
01:39:22,719 --> 01:39:24,639
fund raising problems

1961
01:39:24,639 --> 01:39:26,030
thank you

1962
01:39:26,030 --> 01:39:31,189
[Music]

1963
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:32,960
i just want to you know say that it's

1964
01:39:32,960 --> 01:39:34,800
been such a phenomenal success the

1965
01:39:34,800 --> 01:39:36,560
program and i know i think that

1966
01:39:36,560 --> 01:39:44,390
councilwoman de toro

1967
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,199
um but just thank you for you know

1968
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:48,560
everybody that stepped up to the plate

1969
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:49,760
at the beginning

1970
01:39:49,760 --> 01:39:50,960
uh

1971
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:52,880
you know two and a half years ago and

1972
01:39:52,880 --> 01:39:55,199
thank you to our uh police force and

1973
01:39:55,199 --> 01:39:59,990
volunteers

1974
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,480
it's a team effort though you know we've

1975
01:40:02,480 --> 01:40:04,400
i think we've since the starting we had

1976
01:40:04,400 --> 01:40:06,880
about 600 000 meals yeah

1977
01:40:06,880 --> 01:40:08,460
it's

1978
01:40:08,460 --> 01:40:12,629
[Music]

1979
01:40:12,639 --> 01:40:14,159
well it's just you know such a great

1980
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:16,480
example of people just identifying a

1981
01:40:16,480 --> 01:40:18,000
need and immediately

1982
01:40:18,000 --> 01:40:19,920
you know responding to it instead of you

1983
01:40:19,920 --> 01:40:20,719
know

1984
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:22,800
having to figure it out and you know

1985
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:24,719
that kind of thing it's just been

1986
01:40:24,719 --> 01:40:26,000
phenomenal that's what we're gonna have

1987
01:40:26,000 --> 01:40:29,430
we're gonna get it out there

1988
01:40:29,440 --> 01:40:31,520
go ahead please

1989
01:40:31,520 --> 01:40:32,719
just

1990
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:35,840
so um so every week we go we set up the

1991
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:36,960
meals

1992
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:38,880
different setup locations there's

1993
01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:42,709
certain locations that are definitely

1994
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:44,800
more warranted as far as need than than

1995
01:40:44,800 --> 01:40:47,040
other locations on front of vale

1996
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:49,040
cemetery it's been one of our our

1997
01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:51,520
biggest outlets there and then christina

1998
01:40:51,520 --> 01:40:53,280
always brings there's all kinds of fresh

1999
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,520
produce and bread and then we even have

2000
01:40:57,520 --> 01:40:58,719
mike

2001
01:40:58,719 --> 01:41:00,239
from

2002
01:41:00,239 --> 01:41:03,199
st luke's food pantry

2003
01:41:03,199 --> 01:41:05,679
every week he brings us

2004
01:41:05,679 --> 01:41:08,159
food and goodie snacks

2005
01:41:08,159 --> 01:41:10,000
and then christine takes some of those

2006
01:41:10,000 --> 01:41:12,320
back to feed albany and then the

2007
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,400
bethesda house we drop off

2008
01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:16,960
meals there and whatever is left the

2009
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:19,360
officers bring down to summit

2010
01:41:19,360 --> 01:41:22,080
towers just to put in the community room

2011
01:41:22,080 --> 01:41:24,239
and they make the announcements there so

2012
01:41:24,239 --> 01:41:26,800
it definitely gets around the city all

2013
01:41:26,800 --> 01:41:29,040
the food yes

2014
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:31,440
and the kids love the police officers

2015
01:41:31,440 --> 01:41:34,719
so when the officers are there and they

2016
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:36,880
come up and they talk to them and show

2017
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:38,639
them the lights on the cars sticker

2018
01:41:38,639 --> 01:41:41,990
matches they love stickers

2019
01:41:42,000 --> 01:41:44,080
but it's there's definitely a need in

2020
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,800
our community for this

2021
01:41:46,800 --> 01:41:48,000
so it's

2022
01:41:48,000 --> 01:41:52,239
sometimes 145 meals a week um

2023
01:41:52,239 --> 01:41:54,000
yeah i think we're just connecting alone

2024
01:41:54,000 --> 01:41:56,960
i think we're up over 6500 meals so far

2025
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,320
that we paid it out

2026
01:41:58,320 --> 01:42:00,560
and that program from i think we started

2027
01:42:00,560 --> 01:42:02,239
out with nine

2028
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:04,480
uh people going through chemo and like

2029
01:42:04,480 --> 01:42:06,239
um disabilities like just general

2030
01:42:06,239 --> 01:42:08,239
disabilities they couldn't get out um

2031
01:42:08,239 --> 01:42:10,639
you know anywhere from immunocompromise

2032
01:42:10,639 --> 01:42:12,560
to like i said

2033
01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:14,480
chemo radiation therapies and that's up

2034
01:42:14,480 --> 01:42:17,760
to over 80 some odd meals that we're just

2035
01:42:17,760 --> 01:42:19,440
personally delivering out

2036
01:42:19,440 --> 01:42:21,440
to those individuals in the city

2037
01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:24,159
yeah it's approximately 125 250 meals

2038
01:42:24,159 --> 01:42:26,560
per side and then approximately 80 meals

2039
01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,199
every week to those individuals who are

2040
01:42:29,199 --> 01:42:30,480
as

2041
01:42:30,480 --> 01:42:31,840
we talk about

2042
01:42:31,840 --> 01:42:33,679
compromised individuals and things of

2043
01:42:33,679 --> 01:42:34,800
that nature

2044
01:42:34,800 --> 01:42:36,400
and that's how i first started was just

2045
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,560
going delivering to them to the people

2046
01:42:38,560 --> 01:42:40,480
like oh they invite you in they want to

2047
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:43,280
talk um you know you just sit with them

2048
01:42:43,280 --> 01:42:45,600
that's an important part of it you know

2049
01:42:45,600 --> 01:42:47,679
they they await the the coming others

2050
01:42:47,679 --> 01:42:48,960
are like leave them out just leave them

2051
01:42:48,960 --> 01:42:51,920
on the porch cover it with a topic okay

2052
01:42:51,920 --> 01:42:54,159
but thank you it really is like just to

2053
01:42:54,159 --> 01:42:56,480
see like people's faces and just to

2054
01:42:56,480 --> 01:43:00,320
interact with with the community it's huge that alone i think is

2055
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:01,600
wonderful

2056
01:43:01,600 --> 01:43:02,400
but

2057
01:43:02,400 --> 01:43:04,800
it's i mean it really

2058
01:43:04,800 --> 01:43:07,119
it would be a pity to see this fall by

2059
01:43:07,119 --> 01:43:13,430
the way

2060
01:43:13,440 --> 01:43:15,920
um so definitely uh i know we're talking

2061
01:43:15,920 --> 01:43:17,920
about the contribution that the city can

2062
01:43:17,920 --> 01:43:19,600
make but i don't know if you've reached

2063
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:20,719
out to the school district definitely

2064
01:43:20,719 --> 01:43:22,960
superintendent solay is actively working

2065
01:43:22,960 --> 01:43:24,880
on implementing a community schools

2066
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,800
model where this very much i think could

2067
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:28,239
be something that they can undertake so

2068
01:43:28,239 --> 01:43:29,760
i don't know if you have established

2069
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:31,520
communication probably definitely

2070
01:43:31,520 --> 01:43:33,040
we haven't yet but we are working on

2071
01:43:33,040 --> 01:43:34,639
that as part of the next step as we

2072
01:43:34,639 --> 01:43:36,400
expand we want to sort of make sure to

2073
01:43:36,400 --> 01:43:38,400
see who our partners are to start with

2074
01:43:38,400 --> 01:43:40,400
um where we can afford you know be next

2075
01:43:40,400 --> 01:43:42,239
year as we're getting these grants more

2076
01:43:42,239 --> 01:43:43,920
cash flow issue until those grants come

2077
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,000
in and then we'll be looking to say okay

2078
01:43:46,000 --> 01:43:47,360
you know one of the big ones we have in

2079
01:43:47,360 --> 01:43:49,840
albany is the city housing authority and

2080
01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:51,600
they help direct distribute the school

2081
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:52,800
districts are a big one that we're

2082
01:43:52,800 --> 01:43:54,880
looking to we work with some of the

2083
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,880
charter schools specifically so we'll

2084
01:43:56,880 --> 01:43:58,800
reach out as well as the state of albany

2085
01:43:58,800 --> 01:43:59,760
public schools so it's definitely

2086
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:01,600
something to be interested in christine

2087
01:44:01,600 --> 01:44:03,440
also has she has coped so she can't be

2088
01:44:03,440 --> 01:44:04,960
here unfortunately

2089
01:44:04,960 --> 01:44:07,040
but she's reached out to the

2090
01:44:07,040 --> 01:44:08,480
senator todisco and told me about the

2091
01:44:08,480 --> 01:44:10,560
wright family so they're yeah they're

2092
01:44:10,560 --> 01:44:12,880
reaching out for them and to

2093
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,679
disconnect foundation as well so they're

2094
01:44:15,679 --> 01:44:24,830
they are working on that

2095
01:44:24,840 --> 01:44:47,109
[Music]

2096
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:50,719
aye thank you

2097
01:44:50,719 --> 01:44:54,870
take care

2098
01:44:54,880 --> 01:44:56,800
you pop up an app store

2099
01:44:56,800 --> 01:44:58,880
okay i would like to call government ops

2100
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:01,520
to order one item discussion filling

2101
01:45:01,520 --> 01:45:05,600
vacant position on the city workforce

2102
01:45:05,600 --> 01:45:08,320
mr field thank you so we talked about

2103
01:45:08,320 --> 01:45:11,040
this a few weeks ago um and we came up

2104
01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:12,320
with some things that we were going to

2105
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:14,880
do part of which was um

2106
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:17,920
working with uh marianne and hr to make

2107
01:45:17,920 --> 01:45:19,600
sure we knew what the job opportunities

2108
01:45:19,600 --> 01:45:20,400
were

2109
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:22,639
uh which we have done and she actually

2110
01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:24,960
was at the green market uh this the

2111
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,360
second sunday handing out applications

2112
01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:30,000
there's a they've created a flyer with a

2113
01:45:30,000 --> 01:45:32,400
qr code letting people know you know the

2114
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,080
jobs that are available

2115
01:45:34,080 --> 01:45:38,159
and as you heard um earlier we that our

2116
01:45:38,159 --> 01:45:40,239
code department is down people and

2117
01:45:40,239 --> 01:45:42,800
that's just happening all over um

2118
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:44,480
all over the city

2119
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:46,480
but not only that i was watching the

2120
01:45:46,480 --> 01:45:48,960
news where there's airlines that are

2121
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:50,719
grounding flights because they just

2122
01:45:50,719 --> 01:45:52,400
don't have enough staff so this is not

2123
01:45:52,400 --> 01:45:55,440
something that just is happening locally

2124
01:45:55,440 --> 01:45:57,040
and um so i just thought we should need

2125
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:58,639
to talk about how

2126
01:45:58,639 --> 01:46:01,840
we could address that um this this

2127
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:03,360
particular topic has come up numerous

2128
01:46:03,360 --> 01:46:04,800
times in these conversations so i

2129
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,719
thought i should bring it to this table

2130
01:46:06,719 --> 01:46:08,960
currently um if you're a resident of if

2131
01:46:08,960 --> 01:46:09,840
you want to work for the city of

2132
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,520
schenectady you have to actually reside

2133
01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:14,000
in the city of schenectady

2134
01:46:14,000 --> 01:46:16,000
and so the question comes up do we

2135
01:46:16,000 --> 01:46:20,310
expand that to the county

2136
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:24,400
we actually have lost people to other

2137
01:46:24,400 --> 01:46:26,960
municipalities within schenectady county

2138
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:28,159
because you don't have to live in

2139
01:46:28,159 --> 01:46:29,600
rotterdam to work in modern day we've

2140
01:46:29,600 --> 01:46:31,360
left they'll have people leave who work

2141
01:46:31,360 --> 01:46:32,880
for the city to work in rotterdam

2142
01:46:32,880 --> 01:46:34,719
because they didn't you know

2143
01:46:34,719 --> 01:46:36,560
there may be have been other reasons but

2144
01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:38,159
that stipulation wasn't there so it

2145
01:46:38,159 --> 01:46:39,199
didn't

2146
01:46:39,199 --> 01:46:42,320
make them stay in schenectady so um

2147
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:44,800
in talking with staff just to be uh to

2148
01:46:44,800 --> 01:46:47,280
be completely transparent um

2149
01:46:47,280 --> 01:46:48,639
conversation's been brought up more than

2150
01:46:48,639 --> 01:46:49,840
one time so i thought it was something

2151
01:46:49,840 --> 01:46:51,600
that we should discuss and talk about

2152
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:53,360
how we can make sure that we get our

2153
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,119
workforce

2154
01:46:55,119 --> 01:46:56,239
um

2155
01:46:56,239 --> 01:46:59,600
back up to what to be in in terms of

2156
01:46:59,600 --> 01:47:01,840
considering considering people having

2157
01:47:01,840 --> 01:47:03,920
residency within the county and not just

2158
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,280
within the city

2159
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,119
the county itself did something similar

2160
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:09,119
to this a few years ago and one of the

2161
01:47:09,119 --> 01:47:11,040
stipulations that they did have was that

2162
01:47:11,040 --> 01:47:14,159
if um let's say a person tested and at

2163
01:47:14,159 --> 01:47:16,080
all things being equal

2164
01:47:16,080 --> 01:47:17,600
that the person in the and one within

2165
01:47:17,600 --> 01:47:18,960
the city and one in the county the

2166
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,960
person of course that lives in the city

2167
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:23,760
would um be their chosen candidate so

2168
01:47:23,760 --> 01:47:25,119
i just kind of opened that up for

2169
01:47:25,119 --> 01:47:26,239
discussion i'm not even sure what it

2170
01:47:26,239 --> 01:47:28,159
takes to get us there but i think it's

2171
01:47:28,159 --> 01:47:31,280
something that we um we really want to

2172
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:34,239
consider and i'm sure that the mayor has

2173
01:47:34,239 --> 01:47:36,080
made an opinion on that but as i said

2174
01:47:36,080 --> 01:47:37,840
it's been brought up to me numerous

2175
01:47:37,840 --> 01:47:38,800
times

2176
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:40,239
and um

2177
01:47:40,239 --> 01:47:41,520
so thought it's something we should

2178
01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,360
discuss if we're really um you know

2179
01:47:43,360 --> 01:47:45,679
serious about making sure that we

2180
01:47:45,679 --> 01:47:47,679
be able to employ people um that we need

2181
01:47:47,679 --> 01:47:49,199
to employ

2182
01:47:49,199 --> 01:47:50,800
so

2183
01:47:50,800 --> 01:47:53,280
mccarthy is a residency board um

2184
01:47:53,280 --> 01:47:56,870
functioning that's my time

2185
01:47:56,880 --> 01:48:00,239
there is not a residency board per se

2186
01:48:00,239 --> 01:48:02,840
it is if there's an issue that comes

2187
01:48:02,840 --> 01:48:05,760
up upon the residency board

2188
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:06,639
and

2189
01:48:06,639 --> 01:48:09,830
conveniently

2190
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:11,360
hearing a review

2191
01:48:11,360 --> 01:48:13,840
on that status

2192
01:48:13,840 --> 01:48:15,119
is this something that you can consider

2193
01:48:15,119 --> 01:48:17,440
on a case-by-case basis is there an

2194
01:48:17,440 --> 01:48:19,840
application in and somebody is

2195
01:48:19,840 --> 01:48:22,159
considered to be suitable for a position

2196
01:48:22,159 --> 01:48:27,109
to waive that residency

2197
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:28,639
it has been done in the past on a

2198
01:48:28,639 --> 01:48:30,719
case-by-case basis

2199
01:48:30,719 --> 01:48:32,080
the uh

2200
01:48:32,080 --> 01:48:36,950
one was done when we took the

2201
01:48:36,960 --> 01:48:38,960
uh

2202
01:48:38,960 --> 01:48:41,440
wastewater treatment back in house

2203
01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:42,880
where

2204
01:48:42,880 --> 01:48:45,199
farmed out and the olia had it so there

2205
01:48:45,199 --> 01:48:47,040
was no residency requirement brought

2206
01:48:47,040 --> 01:48:48,719
those people in they weren't held to the

2207
01:48:48,719 --> 01:48:51,280
residency requirement

2208
01:48:51,280 --> 01:48:55,440
since then the only one that i have uh

2209
01:48:55,440 --> 01:48:58,320
gone for a waiver was judge eidens when

2210
01:48:58,320 --> 01:48:59,920
i appointed him a

2211
01:48:59,920 --> 01:49:01,920
public safety commissioner

2212
01:49:01,920 --> 01:49:05,199
he was a little bit older

2213
01:49:05,199 --> 01:49:07,760
like life lived in glenville and

2214
01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:09,600
was

2215
01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:12,239
not interested in moving but

2216
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:14,000
served with distinction i didn't go for

2217
01:49:14,000 --> 01:49:16,880
the residency way when that i've not

2218
01:49:16,880 --> 01:49:18,320
done that for

2219
01:49:18,320 --> 01:49:20,320
commissioner devine

2220
01:49:20,320 --> 01:49:22,080
so i'm not sure he technically needs to

2221
01:49:22,080 --> 01:49:25,520
need to seize only part-time

2222
01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:26,960
and again

2223
01:49:26,960 --> 01:49:30,159
but would look at it on a get a

2224
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:34,310
case-by-case basis

2225
01:49:34,320 --> 01:49:36,159
and just uh you know

2226
01:49:36,159 --> 01:49:38,080
so thank you to whoever update the

2227
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,960
website most of the positions are there

2228
01:49:40,960 --> 01:49:42,880
so thank you whoever did it

2229
01:49:42,880 --> 01:49:45,040
well mary and you're making sure

2230
01:49:45,040 --> 01:49:47,199
so that was good and i recorded i shared

2231
01:49:47,199 --> 01:49:48,960
it to all my contacts and i encourage

2232
01:49:48,960 --> 01:49:51,280
everyone please go on there and share it

2233
01:49:51,280 --> 01:49:52,159
and

2234
01:49:52,159 --> 01:49:53,760
getting hits

2235
01:49:53,760 --> 01:49:55,119
and i'm encouraging people to submit

2236
01:49:55,119 --> 01:49:56,639
their resume directly

2237
01:49:56,639 --> 01:50:00,709
for each of their positions so

2238
01:50:00,719 --> 01:50:04,080
agree um but but my my point really was

2239
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,159
us do this overall not by a case-by-case

2240
01:50:06,159 --> 01:50:08,400
basis that means every single person

2241
01:50:08,400 --> 01:50:11,840
that um that wants to employ the mayor

2242
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:13,280
has to you know look at every single

2243
01:50:13,280 --> 01:50:14,480
application

2244
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:16,480
uh every single person that that doesn't

2245
01:50:16,480 --> 01:50:18,480
live in the city that lives in the um

2246
01:50:18,480 --> 01:50:19,520
county and i'm not sure what the

2247
01:50:19,520 --> 01:50:21,040
criteria is

2248
01:50:21,040 --> 01:50:23,599
um in terms of the case by case well one

2249
01:50:23,599 --> 01:50:25,840
reason was you know the marriage escaped

2250
01:50:25,840 --> 01:50:27,119
that the person was older their wife

2251
01:50:27,119 --> 01:50:28,800
didn't want to move makes sense you

2252
01:50:28,800 --> 01:50:30,480
don't want to sell your house to if

2253
01:50:30,480 --> 01:50:31,440
you're at the place where you're going

2254
01:50:31,440 --> 01:50:33,679
to be retiring in a couple years anyway

2255
01:50:33,679 --> 01:50:34,639
so

2256
01:50:34,639 --> 01:50:36,960
but i just really want us to consider

2257
01:50:36,960 --> 01:50:38,719
it more broad term

2258
01:50:38,719 --> 01:50:40,880
so the question is have been have we

2259
01:50:40,880 --> 01:50:42,880
been receiving resume from

2260
01:50:42,880 --> 01:50:46,400
residency outside of connectivity

2261
01:50:46,400 --> 01:50:49,119
we on a routine basis get applications

2262
01:50:49,119 --> 01:50:51,599
for individuals who do not live within

2263
01:50:51,599 --> 01:50:54,000
the city of schenectady current code

2264
01:50:54,000 --> 01:50:56,080
allows me to appoint

2265
01:50:56,080 --> 01:50:58,400
anyone independent of their place of

2266
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:00,960
residency but they're required to move

2267
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:03,199
within the city within six months of

2268
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:10,070
appointment

2269
01:51:10,080 --> 01:51:12,000
so i think when and we've heard this

2270
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:14,000
instance multiple times just tonight to

2271
01:51:14,000 --> 01:51:16,000
reference something that was recent with

2272
01:51:16,000 --> 01:51:17,599
the chris talking about the code

2273
01:51:17,599 --> 01:51:20,400
enforcement having sis off six officers

2274
01:51:20,400 --> 01:51:24,709
out of 14. i don't know how you can

2275
01:51:24,719 --> 01:51:26,880
routinely expect them to perform to the

2276
01:51:26,880 --> 01:51:28,880
highest degree when just they're that

2277
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,320
understaffed

2278
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,960
i want to be

2279
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:34,080
aware that there may be other

2280
01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:35,679
considerations that i'm not aware of as

2281
01:51:35,679 --> 01:51:37,360
a new council member but to me i would

2282
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:39,199
either recommend temporarily suspending

2283
01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:41,119
it at least until we can get our

2284
01:51:41,119 --> 01:51:43,040
departments either fully staffed or

2285
01:51:43,040 --> 01:51:45,199
whether we can identify uh departments

2286
01:51:45,199 --> 01:51:47,199
that are in critical standing but of

2287
01:51:47,199 --> 01:51:48,800
getting them to a standpoint where they

2288
01:51:48,800 --> 01:51:50,560
are functional

2289
01:51:50,560 --> 01:51:53,199
whether we define like a 75

2290
01:51:53,199 --> 01:51:55,520
what have you um or permanently deleting

2291
01:51:55,520 --> 01:51:57,599
it or permanently doing away with it the

2292
01:51:57,599 --> 01:51:59,920
only reason why i recommend that is uh

2293
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:01,920
it seems that we are trending in a

2294
01:52:01,920 --> 01:52:04,880
direction with with staffing that is not

2295
01:52:04,880 --> 01:52:06,400
in line with things that have previously

2296
01:52:06,400 --> 01:52:07,760
worked

2297
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,360
i don't think that this is an instance

2298
01:52:09,360 --> 01:52:12,639
where schenectady isn't

2299
01:52:12,639 --> 01:52:13,440
being

2300
01:52:13,440 --> 01:52:16,000
promoted as a ideal living situation and

2301
01:52:16,000 --> 01:52:17,520
i recognize that our city is making

2302
01:52:17,520 --> 01:52:20,000
efforts to present itself as an ideal

2303
01:52:20,000 --> 01:52:22,560
destination for for families but it

2304
01:52:22,560 --> 01:52:25,119
doesn't seem to be in place a

2305
01:52:25,119 --> 01:52:27,119
effective mechanism that has a pipeline

2306
01:52:27,119 --> 01:52:29,520
to staff these departments and the one

2307
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,599
thing that i would hate to see is

2308
01:52:31,599 --> 01:52:33,840
that exiting to continue and then we'd

2309
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,400
be at one or potentially departments

2310
01:52:36,400 --> 01:52:38,800
that are not stopped

2311
01:52:38,800 --> 01:52:40,880
that's one question from mr coleman

2312
01:52:40,880 --> 01:52:42,960
if you want to suspend

2313
01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,040
this requirement do we need a call for

2314
01:52:45,040 --> 01:52:46,719
public hearing if you're looking to

2315
01:52:46,719 --> 01:52:48,800
temporarily change the code yes because

2316
01:52:48,800 --> 01:52:50,960
that's essentially what it is yes

2317
01:52:50,960 --> 01:52:53,360
you would um i mean the current

2318
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,599
mechanism in place for somebody who

2319
01:52:55,599 --> 01:52:57,360
doesn't reside in schenectady would be

2320
01:52:57,360 --> 01:53:00,000
to seek a waiver as provided in the city

2321
01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:03,030
of god

2322
01:53:03,040 --> 01:53:03,840
please

2323
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:06,000
so what would residents say thank you

2324
01:53:06,000 --> 01:53:07,679
carl for all that but what would you

2325
01:53:07,679 --> 01:53:09,760
know that do to our schools and our

2326
01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:11,119
community and

2327
01:53:11,119 --> 01:53:13,440
you know we just be a destination to

2328
01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,440
come and work and everybody leaves right

2329
01:53:15,440 --> 01:53:16,560
after work

2330
01:53:16,560 --> 01:53:19,199
i i don't know i just i i don't agree

2331
01:53:19,199 --> 01:53:23,520
with it but i think we're in a position that everyone across

2332
01:53:23,520 --> 01:53:26,159
america is in i probably everyone's

2333
01:53:26,159 --> 01:53:28,880
departments are low you know i don't

2334
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:30,880
know but again

2335
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,880
you know we want to build our home sales

2336
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,440
and our schools and our community

2337
01:53:35,440 --> 01:53:36,239
um

2338
01:53:36,239 --> 01:53:38,239
you know like downtown albany you know

2339
01:53:38,239 --> 01:53:44,149
it's

2340
01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:46,320
that people are all over um that's why

2341
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:47,599
people are looking different ways to

2342
01:53:47,599 --> 01:53:50,159
handle it and so um there are places

2343
01:53:50,159 --> 01:53:52,000
that other you know who have opened up

2344
01:53:52,000 --> 01:53:54,320
like like for the housing authority let

2345
01:53:54,320 --> 01:53:56,239
me give you an example before you only

2346
01:53:56,239 --> 01:53:58,000
could live in schenectady county they've

2347
01:53:58,000 --> 01:53:59,199
changed it now that if you live in

2348
01:53:59,199 --> 01:54:01,679
contiguous counties you are you can work

2349
01:54:01,679 --> 01:54:03,599
for them so because it's a problem

2350
01:54:03,599 --> 01:54:04,800
that's ongoing

2351
01:54:04,800 --> 01:54:06,320
we have to approach it in a different

2352
01:54:06,320 --> 01:54:11,280
way and um i understand what you're saying i'm not

2353
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:12,960
sure if i have really the same concern i

2354
01:54:12,960 --> 01:54:14,800
don't anticipate people move out of the

2355
01:54:14,800 --> 01:54:16,639
city and all of our school districts

2356
01:54:16,639 --> 01:54:18,320
will go on and in terms of the school

2357
01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:19,840
district in order to work for the school

2358
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:21,280
district you do not have to live in the

2359
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:22,719
city you don't even have to live in the

2360
01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:25,360
county so we already have people that

2361
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:30,320
come here to teach in our schools that um you know they teach

2362
01:54:30,320 --> 01:54:32,159
um and i'm gonna say i know a lot of

2363
01:54:32,159 --> 01:54:33,440
them that are still committed to our

2364
01:54:33,440 --> 01:54:35,440
students etc they come they teach in the

2365
01:54:35,440 --> 01:54:37,520
schools and then they go home because we

2366
01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,840
just didn't have enough of a pool to

2367
01:54:39,840 --> 01:54:42,239
draw from in terms of our school

2368
01:54:42,239 --> 01:54:43,840
district so i think we're almost in the

2369
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:47,669
same situation now

2370
01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:50,320
so just a follow-up on the application

2371
01:54:50,320 --> 01:54:52,000
that we cut some of the application that

2372
01:54:52,000 --> 01:54:54,080
we have for a non-resident

2373
01:54:54,080 --> 01:54:56,080
can consideration be given to look into

2374
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,400
them and apply the waiver

2375
01:54:58,400 --> 01:55:01,119
uh we we'd like to uh if they're

2376
01:55:01,119 --> 01:55:03,679
qualified yeah as you're qualified you

2377
01:55:03,679 --> 01:55:05,520
know we would like to bring them to the

2378
01:55:05,520 --> 01:55:08,000
mirror but uh a lot of times because of

2379
01:55:08,000 --> 01:55:10,320
the six months rule that we have people

2380
01:55:10,320 --> 01:55:13,119
automatically tell us well i i only have

2381
01:55:13,119 --> 01:55:14,560
like two more years of the pay of my

2382
01:55:14,560 --> 01:55:16,320
house i'm not gonna move in the city in

2383
01:55:16,320 --> 01:55:18,400
six months so you know we have to

2384
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,239
disqualify them because they tell us up

2385
01:55:20,239 --> 01:55:22,000
front they're not coming in but you know

2386
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:24,000
what we need to do is cast a bigger net

2387
01:55:24,000 --> 01:55:26,480
around the continuous uh counties and

2388
01:55:26,480 --> 01:55:28,320
stuff like that so that we can get the

2389
01:55:28,320 --> 01:55:31,119
best possible workers or uh that you

2390
01:55:31,119 --> 01:55:38,400
know that applied for each position uh the city is connected you know we've been trying like you said we we

2391
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:40,560
have all those job openings and and we

2392
01:55:40,560 --> 01:55:42,400
always go out we try to tell everybody

2393
01:55:42,400 --> 01:55:44,719
about these jobs we just can't get the

2394
01:55:44,719 --> 01:55:47,119
right qualifications uh to meet with

2395
01:55:47,119 --> 01:55:49,199
them but if we can cast a bigger net

2396
01:55:49,199 --> 01:55:51,199
we'll be able to get more applications

2397
01:55:51,199 --> 01:55:53,840
and more people in i also believe that

2398
01:55:53,840 --> 01:55:55,760
uh people who do not live in the city

2399
01:55:55,760 --> 01:55:58,080
right now start working in the city and

2400
01:55:58,080 --> 01:56:00,080
seeing what the city has to offer they

2401
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:01,760
eventually will move into the city but

2402
01:56:01,760 --> 01:56:03,599
you know to be an option to get him here

2403
01:56:03,599 --> 01:56:06,000
first is through uh through uh uh

2404
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:07,199
employment

2405
01:56:07,199 --> 01:56:09,280
and like it says throughout the country

2406
01:56:09,280 --> 01:56:10,960
employment is hard to find

2407
01:56:10,960 --> 01:56:12,719
so we're even we're making our

2408
01:56:12,719 --> 01:56:14,560
employment status even smaller by

2409
01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:16,719
casting that small net right in our

2410
01:56:16,719 --> 01:56:18,080
little city

2411
01:56:18,080 --> 01:56:20,400
so we need we need to make it bigger to

2412
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:26,310
get better employees

2413
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:29,280
i mean for andrew so what about the

2414
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:31,440
employees that already live in the city

2415
01:56:31,440 --> 01:56:33,040
i mean would they be able to move out of

2416
01:56:33,040 --> 01:56:34,719
the city now

2417
01:56:34,719 --> 01:56:37,040
if something like that came about

2418
01:56:37,040 --> 01:56:39,119
presumably if we were to remove the

2419
01:56:39,119 --> 01:56:40,960
restriction that somebody who's employed

2420
01:56:40,960 --> 01:56:42,800
by the city or somebody who seems to be

2421
01:56:42,800 --> 01:56:44,000
employed by the city doesn't have to

2422
01:56:44,000 --> 01:56:45,280
live in the city

2423
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:46,320
then

2424
01:56:46,320 --> 01:56:48,480
yes you that the potential is there for

2425
01:56:48,480 --> 01:56:50,400
that

2426
01:56:50,400 --> 01:56:52,320
go have kids

2427
01:56:52,320 --> 01:56:53,760
it's an extremely hard thing to

2428
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:56,239
administer

2429
01:56:56,239 --> 01:56:58,719
i firmly believe in the residency

2430
01:56:58,719 --> 01:57:01,119
requirement

2431
01:57:01,119 --> 01:57:02,800
there is a provision

2432
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:04,560
most people when they are hired

2433
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,119
pre-signing a resignation if they move

2434
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:10,800
out of the city if i enforce those

2435
01:57:10,800 --> 01:57:13,599
your staffing levels would be critical

2436
01:57:13,599 --> 01:57:15,599
today we get by

2437
01:57:15,599 --> 01:57:18,159
um yeah i'm sure that so you know but

2438
01:57:18,159 --> 01:57:21,040
without that being mirrored that means that that

2439
01:57:21,040 --> 01:57:22,639
wouldn't even be a concern because as

2440
01:57:22,639 --> 01:57:23,840
long as they're in the county i just

2441
01:57:23,840 --> 01:57:25,520
want to be clear i'm not talking about

2442
01:57:25,520 --> 01:57:27,119
other counties i'm not talking about

2443
01:57:27,119 --> 01:57:28,880
somebody moving to albany school i'm

2444
01:57:28,880 --> 01:57:31,599
talking about expanding um

2445
01:57:31,599 --> 01:57:33,760
at least to the county and see how we do

2446
01:57:33,760 --> 01:57:35,199
in terms of

2447
01:57:35,199 --> 01:57:37,760
um getting more employees and as mr

2448
01:57:37,760 --> 01:57:39,440
ferrari said just cast your bigger net

2449
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:41,040
so talking about the county of

2450
01:57:41,040 --> 01:57:42,480
schenectady

2451
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:43,920
you said we already have people who are

2452
01:57:43,920 --> 01:57:46,000
in that situation

2453
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:48,560
that's what i'm hearing

2454
01:57:48,560 --> 01:57:50,239
yes they

2455
01:57:50,239 --> 01:57:53,280
don't live in the city uh

2456
01:57:53,280 --> 01:57:56,320
maintain a paper residency or

2457
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:58,719
in other ways have created a charade

2458
01:57:58,719 --> 01:57:59,679
that

2459
01:57:59,679 --> 01:58:02,719
complies with the current residency

2460
01:58:02,719 --> 01:58:04,880
requirement

2461
01:58:04,880 --> 01:58:06,080
good

2462
01:58:06,080 --> 01:58:07,119
so

2463
01:58:07,119 --> 01:58:08,960
one of the major criticisms of the

2464
01:58:08,960 --> 01:58:10,719
school district is

2465
01:58:10,719 --> 01:58:13,040
our teachers aren't living there

2466
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:14,080
and

2467
01:58:14,080 --> 01:58:17,360
they take our tax money and they leave

2468
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,040
and that doesn't mean they're not

2469
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:20,960
dedicated to students but they're not

2470
01:58:20,960 --> 01:58:22,880
dedicated to our community

2471
01:58:22,880 --> 01:58:26,790
and that's a detriment

2472
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,599
similarly we could have a situation

2473
01:58:29,599 --> 01:58:31,840
where our workers do leave

2474
01:58:31,840 --> 01:58:34,480
there needs to be something in place

2475
01:58:34,480 --> 01:58:36,800
if we're going to do this where

2476
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:38,639
there's skin in the game

2477
01:58:38,639 --> 01:58:40,159
if you're living in the city you're

2478
01:58:40,159 --> 01:58:41,840
contributing to the community you're

2479
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,440
contributing to

2480
01:58:43,440 --> 01:58:45,599
the tax base

2481
01:58:45,599 --> 01:58:47,679
if you're not living here then there

2482
01:58:47,679 --> 01:58:50,560
should be some sort of

2483
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,119
eight ten thousand dollar

2484
01:58:53,119 --> 01:58:54,080
less

2485
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:56,000
pay or something

2486
01:58:56,000 --> 01:58:58,639
to compensate for that incentive and

2487
01:58:58,639 --> 01:59:01,040
there needs to be an incentive to

2488
01:59:01,040 --> 01:59:04,320
move here and be part of our community

2489
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:06,000
that gets

2490
01:59:06,000 --> 01:59:09,520
the umbrella wider but it also puts the

2491
01:59:09,520 --> 01:59:12,000
playing ground at an even

2492
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:14,560
keel for the workers who

2493
01:59:14,560 --> 01:59:17,599
are in our city and are dedicated so any

2494
01:59:17,599 --> 01:59:19,199
new employees that don't live in the

2495
01:59:19,199 --> 01:59:21,360
city should have some sort of

2496
01:59:21,360 --> 01:59:23,119
penalty and

2497
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:24,880
i understand there's

2498
01:59:24,880 --> 01:59:26,239
contractual

2499
01:59:26,239 --> 01:59:27,920
issues related to that

2500
01:59:27,920 --> 01:59:29,520
but uh

2501
01:59:29,520 --> 01:59:31,840
i firmly believe that that needs to be

2502
01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:35,270
in place

2503
01:59:35,280 --> 01:59:36,639
so if you're

2504
01:59:36,639 --> 01:59:38,159
segments what you're saying i don't

2505
01:59:38,159 --> 01:59:40,560
think financially penalizing people to

2506
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:42,560
be involved in the community

2507
01:59:42,560 --> 01:59:45,440
means to long-term successful impacts

2508
01:59:45,440 --> 01:59:47,199
part of the reason why my family moved

2509
01:59:47,199 --> 01:59:49,280
back is because we wanted to

2510
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:51,920
and i will entirely bet on the fact that

2511
01:59:51,920 --> 01:59:53,040
the

2512
01:59:53,040 --> 01:59:54,719
ambitions of mayor mccarthy the

2513
01:59:54,719 --> 01:59:57,199
ambitions of superintendent soler will

2514
01:59:57,199 --> 01:59:59,840
yield people wanting to buy into the

2515
01:59:59,840 --> 02:00:01,440
fact that schenectady is a thriving

2516
02:00:01,440 --> 02:00:04,800
community and i think if we are then

2517
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:07,360
compared to other cities

2518
02:00:07,360 --> 02:00:09,199
and someone chooses somewhere else

2519
02:00:09,199 --> 02:00:11,599
we need to honestly look introspectively

2520
02:00:11,599 --> 02:00:13,599
and say is there anything we could have

2521
02:00:13,599 --> 02:00:15,599
realistically done better and if it's no

2522
02:00:15,599 --> 02:00:17,760
then accepting that but whenever we have

2523
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,320
our parades downtown whenever we have

2524
02:00:20,320 --> 02:00:22,239
our uh sunday events in downtown

2525
02:00:22,239 --> 02:00:24,320
connecticut i'm asking people candidly

2526
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:25,840
do you live in our community and when i

2527
02:00:25,840 --> 02:00:28,080
hear no i thank them for patronizing our

2528
02:00:28,080 --> 02:00:29,920
businesses and let them know that we do

2529
02:00:29,920 --> 02:00:31,679
have houses that we do have safe and

2530
02:00:31,679 --> 02:00:33,360
successful neighborhoods and they should

2531
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:34,480
choose us

2532
02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:37,520
and i think that that is the aim that we

2533
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:40,080
need to take on

2534
02:00:40,080 --> 02:00:42,000
so i just want to follow back and just

2535
02:00:42,000 --> 02:00:43,920
clarify just so we're having the

2536
02:00:43,920 --> 02:00:46,960
residency is that for six months only

2537
02:00:46,960 --> 02:00:50,239
is that for a period of six months only

2538
02:00:50,239 --> 02:01:02,950
waving residency

2539
02:01:02,960 --> 02:01:05,119
i would have to convene the residency

2540
02:01:05,119 --> 02:01:06,960
review board they would have to vote a

2541
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:10,239
waiver the city council can change the

2542
02:01:10,239 --> 02:01:12,400
actual code and that weaver doesn't have

2543
02:01:12,400 --> 02:01:14,480
the limitation

2544
02:01:14,480 --> 02:01:18,310
of whatever you enacted

2545
02:01:18,320 --> 02:01:19,679
no currently

2546
02:01:19,679 --> 02:01:21,599
what we have currently if you were to

2547
02:01:21,599 --> 02:01:23,599
wave the residency

2548
02:01:23,599 --> 02:01:25,920
is there a timeline

2549
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:28,080
is that permanent i believe that it's

2550
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:29,920
permanent like it's great

2551
02:01:29,920 --> 02:01:31,599
i suppose the residency review board

2552
02:01:31,599 --> 02:01:32,560
could

2553
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:35,679
do a limited waiver but the ones

2554
02:01:35,679 --> 02:01:37,520
have been done on a permanent basis a

2555
02:01:37,520 --> 02:01:40,239
section of code to review if i'm sorry

2556
02:01:40,239 --> 02:01:41,760
the section of code to review on this is

2557
02:01:41,760 --> 02:01:45,510
87-6.1

2558
02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:47,199
and the sub-sections

2559
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:49,679
that goes through you know the

2560
02:01:49,679 --> 02:01:52,800
procedures and the um

2561
02:01:52,800 --> 02:01:54,480
the considerations

2562
02:01:54,480 --> 02:01:58,080
uh for granting a waiver

2563
02:01:58,080 --> 02:01:59,840
yeah i think i personally think that we

2564
02:01:59,840 --> 02:02:01,440
should look at the waiver based on the

2565
02:02:01,440 --> 02:02:02,880
application coming in and if there are

2566
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,119
non-residency we can look at the you

2567
02:02:05,119 --> 02:02:07,040
know application they're qualified look

2568
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:09,840
at waving the residency

2569
02:02:09,840 --> 02:02:12,080
because we we need to increase the

2570
02:02:12,080 --> 02:02:15,520
workforce and we need to do something

2571
02:02:15,520 --> 02:02:18,560
good sorry a couple of issues i i think

2572
02:02:18,560 --> 02:02:20,480
and just to twist that around i think

2573
02:02:20,480 --> 02:02:22,880
the idea of giving an incentive to

2574
02:02:22,880 --> 02:02:24,880
someone that's living in the city versus

2575
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:26,960
penalizing somebody you know that's not

2576
02:02:26,960 --> 02:02:29,679
so i think i i i hear what you're both

2577
02:02:29,679 --> 02:02:31,199
saying i like the idea of giving an

2578
02:02:31,199 --> 02:02:33,280
incentive to someone and many of us have

2579
02:02:33,280 --> 02:02:35,119
that at different workplaces over the

2580
02:02:35,119 --> 02:02:37,440
years where you look at health insurance

2581
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,119
for example are you going to accept the

2582
02:02:39,119 --> 02:02:41,599
health insurance okay or if you don't

2583
02:02:41,599 --> 02:02:42,960
accept the health insurance hey we'll

2584
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:44,560
give you an extra two thousand dollars

2585
02:02:44,560 --> 02:02:46,320
in your salary because it's saving the

2586
02:02:46,320 --> 02:02:48,320
organization so i mean there's ways to

2587
02:02:48,320 --> 02:02:51,520
play around with with that as well um

2588
02:02:51,520 --> 02:02:54,400
i personally

2589
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,000
feel the same way you want people to

2590
02:02:56,000 --> 02:02:57,840
live here we want this we want people to

2591
02:02:57,840 --> 02:03:00,080
recognize what a fabulous place this is

2592
02:03:00,080 --> 02:03:02,560
to live and there and i think that more

2593
02:03:02,560 --> 02:03:04,800
and more people are figuring that out i

2594
02:03:04,800 --> 02:03:06,480
would like to know

2595
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:08,719
whether i mean because we all have

2596
02:03:08,719 --> 02:03:11,520
identified that the workforce issue in

2597
02:03:11,520 --> 02:03:13,119
our country

2598
02:03:13,119 --> 02:03:14,560
is just

2599
02:03:14,560 --> 02:03:16,719
you know i mean why are people not

2600
02:03:16,719 --> 02:03:18,000
applying for all the jobs there's

2601
02:03:18,000 --> 02:03:21,440
millions of jobs available um and folks

2602
02:03:21,440 --> 02:03:23,040
just aren't even like stepping up to the

2603
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:25,599
plate to try to apply for the job so i

2604
02:03:25,599 --> 02:03:27,599
guess i'd want to dig a little deeper

2605
02:03:27,599 --> 02:03:29,679
and know is it because somebody doesn't

2606
02:03:29,679 --> 02:03:31,920
want to come and live in schenectady or

2607
02:03:31,920 --> 02:03:33,599
is it that we're just not getting

2608
02:03:33,599 --> 02:03:37,199
applications uh in general you know

2609
02:03:37,199 --> 02:03:40,000
because when people see that

2610
02:03:40,000 --> 02:03:41,440
they don't even

2611
02:03:41,440 --> 02:03:43,199
okay yeah

2612
02:03:43,199 --> 02:03:45,119
so we wouldn't have high data on that

2613
02:03:45,119 --> 02:03:47,599
actually yeah so that's that's one thing

2614
02:03:47,599 --> 02:03:49,599
i want to say and i also think that

2615
02:03:49,599 --> 02:03:52,000
um i can see a difference between for

2616
02:03:52,000 --> 02:03:54,320
example an 18 an hour

2617
02:03:54,320 --> 02:03:56,800
um you know person who's going to be

2618
02:03:56,800 --> 02:04:00,480
working on a garbage truck versus um

2619
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:01,840
someone that's coming to work in our

2620
02:04:01,840 --> 02:04:04,159
corporation council office at a much

2621
02:04:04,159 --> 02:04:05,840
higher salary i mean i'm just saying i'm

2622
02:04:05,840 --> 02:04:08,320
just trying to bring up issues that i

2623
02:04:08,320 --> 02:04:10,960
think would all have to be um

2624
02:04:10,960 --> 02:04:13,280
considered in this in this as a broader

2625
02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:14,800
topic that

2626
02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:16,639
you know i think flexibility around

2627
02:04:16,639 --> 02:04:19,119
someone that's making 18 an hour

2628
02:04:19,119 --> 02:04:21,360
and maybe doesn't want to move here um

2629
02:04:21,360 --> 02:04:23,280
to make 18 an hour

2630
02:04:23,280 --> 02:04:24,719
versus

2631
02:04:24,719 --> 02:04:26,880
you know someone else's salary so i

2632
02:04:26,880 --> 02:04:28,480
think it's i think there's a lot of

2633
02:04:28,480 --> 02:04:29,440
levels

2634
02:04:29,440 --> 02:04:31,920
um it's like peeling the onion back uh

2635
02:04:31,920 --> 02:04:35,679
in terms of in terms of this issue

2636
02:04:35,679 --> 02:04:37,840
go ahead i know that currently if

2637
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:40,079
there's someone that we really need to

2638
02:04:40,079 --> 02:04:43,360
fill at a higher level um that that the

2639
02:04:43,360 --> 02:04:45,599
mayor is willing to you know and has

2640
02:04:45,599 --> 02:04:47,040
considered people just because if we

2641
02:04:47,040 --> 02:04:48,719
can't find someone not only want a name

2642
02:04:48,719 --> 02:04:51,840
position but a particular position um

2643
02:04:51,840 --> 02:04:54,400
that requires a certain skill set it's

2644
02:04:54,400 --> 02:04:57,199
that um that that person

2645
02:04:57,199 --> 02:05:00,320
you know um probably may consider us

2646
02:05:00,320 --> 02:05:02,239
like there was a woman who did work for

2647
02:05:02,239 --> 02:05:03,040
um

2648
02:05:03,040 --> 02:05:05,360
our assessment assessment and she didn't

2649
02:05:05,360 --> 02:05:06,960
live in the city i believe she had a

2650
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:09,360
waiver at some point because she brought

2651
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:10,639
the skill set that we needed to the

2652
02:05:10,639 --> 02:05:12,639
table so i think

2653
02:05:12,639 --> 02:05:13,920
it's kind of like a little bit different

2654
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:15,199
than what you're saying actually because

2655
02:05:15,199 --> 02:05:17,920
the people with the highest salary with

2656
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:18,719
the

2657
02:05:18,719 --> 02:05:22,159
specific skill set i'm more inclined to

2658
02:05:22,159 --> 02:05:24,239
be able to get the waiver as the people

2659
02:05:24,239 --> 02:05:27,040
at the uh 18 an hour

2660
02:05:27,040 --> 02:05:28,560
because it's a skill set that may be

2661
02:05:28,560 --> 02:05:32,149
difficult to find within the city

2662
02:05:32,159 --> 02:05:33,679
i'm saying we need both though just so

2663
02:05:33,679 --> 02:05:36,870
you know

2664
02:05:36,880 --> 02:05:38,159
like clearly

2665
02:05:38,159 --> 02:05:39,679
i think we were talking about somebody

2666
02:05:39,679 --> 02:05:41,520
working the assessment so i was

2667
02:05:41,520 --> 02:05:43,599
appointed by a prior administration who

2668
02:05:43,599 --> 02:05:46,159
did not have a waiver and i did not

2669
02:05:46,159 --> 02:05:50,550
reappoint that person

2670
02:05:50,560 --> 02:05:51,920
go ahead please

2671
02:05:51,920 --> 02:05:54,000
have we ever considered i don't know but

2672
02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:55,280
raising our

2673
02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:56,400
pay scale

2674
02:05:56,400 --> 02:05:59,599
okay we have well we have okay

2675
02:05:59,599 --> 02:06:01,040
maybe we should consider it again thanks

2676
02:06:01,040 --> 02:06:02,800
for bringing that up

2677
02:06:02,800 --> 02:06:03,679
but

2678
02:06:03,679 --> 02:06:05,199
just talking about incentive i think in

2679
02:06:05,199 --> 02:06:07,280
our last year's budget there is a

2680
02:06:07,280 --> 02:06:09,360
discretionary line

2681
02:06:09,360 --> 02:06:12,320
towards amazon budget to use

2682
02:06:12,320 --> 02:06:23,830
as an incentive to attract

2683
02:06:23,840 --> 02:06:25,360
but i did

2684
02:06:25,360 --> 02:06:27,840
attempt to hire an individual used all

2685
02:06:27,840 --> 02:06:29,760
that money and put some other money on

2686
02:06:29,760 --> 02:06:31,760
the table and still was not able to hire

2687
02:06:31,760 --> 02:06:35,669
the person

2688
02:06:35,679 --> 02:06:37,040
so does that mean that we should be

2689
02:06:37,040 --> 02:06:38,719
looking i'm sorry don't go ahead that

2690
02:06:38,719 --> 02:06:42,470
means we should be looking at ourselves

2691
02:06:42,480 --> 02:06:46,709
there are other factors that play there

2692
02:06:46,719 --> 02:06:48,560
so um you know i i think it's something

2693
02:06:48,560 --> 02:06:50,400
we really should consider currently our

2694
02:06:50,400 --> 02:06:52,400
police officers don't have to live in

2695
02:06:52,400 --> 02:06:54,239
the city our chief does

2696
02:06:54,239 --> 02:06:55,599
so

2697
02:06:55,599 --> 02:06:58,320
mayors are cheap he lives in the city so

2698
02:06:58,320 --> 02:07:00,079
um so i think that it's something we

2699
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:01,280
should consider if we want to really

2700
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:03,040
build our workforce back

2701
02:07:03,040 --> 02:07:05,360
and i to your point um ms patrick i i

2702
02:07:05,360 --> 02:07:07,199
agree that we should incentivize people

2703
02:07:07,199 --> 02:07:08,639
that already live here

2704
02:07:08,639 --> 02:07:10,800
um maybe maybe um

2705
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,119
not penalized incentivized so maybe

2706
02:07:13,119 --> 02:07:15,199
really increase the salary for people

2707
02:07:15,199 --> 02:07:16,639
that already live here and the other

2708
02:07:16,639 --> 02:07:18,320
people just come in currently so i think

2709
02:07:18,320 --> 02:07:20,639
that it's a lot to think about but i

2710
02:07:20,639 --> 02:07:22,000
definitely believe it's something we

2711
02:07:22,000 --> 02:07:23,280
should think about

2712
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:25,840
to figure out how to um increase our

2713
02:07:25,840 --> 02:07:27,199
workforce and get

2714
02:07:27,199 --> 02:07:29,440
people here

2715
02:07:29,440 --> 02:07:30,719
go ahead please

2716
02:07:30,719 --> 02:07:32,639
in uh just in

2717
02:07:32,639 --> 02:07:34,960
general information my

2718
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:38,239
last conversation with paul milton at

2719
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:42,159
ellis madison ellis and that was

2720
02:07:42,159 --> 02:07:44,560
four weeks ago five weeks ago they were

2721
02:07:44,560 --> 02:07:48,400
down 500 positions on a workforce that

2722
02:07:48,400 --> 02:07:49,599
is

2723
02:07:49,599 --> 02:07:52,239
3200

2724
02:07:52,239 --> 02:07:53,760
normal staffing

2725
02:07:53,760 --> 02:07:56,000
and so and that's across the board so

2726
02:07:56,000 --> 02:07:57,040
it's

2727
02:07:57,040 --> 02:08:00,000
higher level medical people it's uh

2728
02:08:00,000 --> 02:08:01,679
administrative people

2729
02:08:01,679 --> 02:08:05,510
lab technicians

2730
02:08:05,520 --> 02:08:08,320
everybody so again it's not unique just

2731
02:08:08,320 --> 02:08:10,400
what the conversation has been

2732
02:08:10,400 --> 02:08:12,719
it's a national phenomenon now where

2733
02:08:12,719 --> 02:08:14,800
there are a lot of openings out there

2734
02:08:14,800 --> 02:08:16,239
how do you

2735
02:08:16,239 --> 02:08:19,199
match people up to it and create that

2736
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:22,480
workforce development that

2737
02:08:22,480 --> 02:08:24,320
gives us people to

2738
02:08:24,320 --> 02:08:26,079
fill the slots a lot of things that ron

2739
02:08:26,079 --> 02:08:28,320
gardner is doing

2740
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:29,520
you know they're not

2741
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:31,040
[Music]

2742
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:32,639
quick but i believe they're going to be

2743
02:08:32,639 --> 02:08:35,440
long-term solutions that'll give us

2744
02:08:35,440 --> 02:08:37,199
quality and uh

2745
02:08:37,199 --> 02:08:39,119
highly skilled people that are motivated

2746
02:08:39,119 --> 02:08:41,119
to do the right thing and be

2747
02:08:41,119 --> 02:08:43,760
part of the bigger ecosystem we've all

2748
02:08:43,760 --> 02:08:45,280
talked about this narrative here the

2749
02:08:45,280 --> 02:08:47,040
good things that are happening

2750
02:08:47,040 --> 02:08:48,719
in schenectady now and we want to

2751
02:08:48,719 --> 02:08:51,199
continue

2752
02:08:51,199 --> 02:08:56,470
i think we need quick now though

2753
02:08:56,480 --> 02:08:59,280
so you know i mean i think even if it's

2754
02:08:59,280 --> 02:09:01,119
temporarily but we definitely need to

2755
02:09:01,119 --> 02:09:02,800
and as i know that it's happening all

2756
02:09:02,800 --> 02:09:04,800
over the country so the question for me

2757
02:09:04,800 --> 02:09:07,599
becomes what do we do to remedy it for

2758
02:09:07,599 --> 02:09:08,800
us

2759
02:09:08,800 --> 02:09:11,119
and you know how do we look at that so

2760
02:09:11,119 --> 02:09:12,880
ellis is another employer and of course

2761
02:09:12,880 --> 02:09:14,079
they're in the city but they're people

2762
02:09:14,079 --> 02:09:15,520
everybody in the city council could just

2763
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:18,159
give me one name so i'll get seven

2764
02:09:18,159 --> 02:09:19,679
resumes

2765
02:09:19,679 --> 02:09:21,679
so then then our code department will be

2766
02:09:21,679 --> 02:09:22,800
filled and then what about the other

2767
02:09:22,800 --> 02:09:24,639
side well no not just codes i'll

2768
02:09:24,639 --> 02:09:27,920
restrict you can give me a police officer a

2769
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:30,320
firefighter boat officer

2770
02:09:30,320 --> 02:09:31,760
the police fire don't have to live in

2771
02:09:31,760 --> 02:09:33,360
the city

2772
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:35,040
let's say you also have a penalty for

2773
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:36,960
not living in the city firefighters are

2774
02:09:36,960 --> 02:09:40,709
exempt by state laws

2775
02:09:40,719 --> 02:09:42,960
only for five years

2776
02:09:42,960 --> 02:09:44,800
please help us

2777
02:09:44,800 --> 02:09:49,750
so

2778
02:09:49,760 --> 02:09:51,760
well i'm definitely i want to look at

2779
02:09:51,760 --> 02:09:54,430
the code

2780
02:09:54,440 --> 02:09:57,119
87-6.1 to see you know about that but i

2781
02:09:57,119 --> 02:09:58,719
think that we really should

2782
02:09:58,719 --> 02:10:00,159
really give some consideration even if

2783
02:10:00,159 --> 02:10:02,960
we do it on a temporary basis or if we

2784
02:10:02,960 --> 02:10:04,480
say

2785
02:10:04,480 --> 02:10:06,480
i mean i know that it's up to the mayor

2786
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:08,400
to like interview everybody so do is

2787
02:10:08,400 --> 02:10:09,520
there

2788
02:10:09,520 --> 02:10:10,880
i guess we need to have that discussion

2789
02:10:10,880 --> 02:10:13,599
with you in terms of if everything was

2790
02:10:13,599 --> 02:10:16,000
equal and residency was the only issue

2791
02:10:16,000 --> 02:10:17,440
if that would just be someone that you

2792
02:10:17,440 --> 02:10:18,880
would be willing to hire i think that

2793
02:10:18,880 --> 02:10:20,880
that's important for us to to have that

2794
02:10:20,880 --> 02:10:22,560
conversation as well

2795
02:10:22,560 --> 02:10:24,079
so and

2796
02:10:24,079 --> 02:10:26,079
to your point um i don't know what that

2797
02:10:26,079 --> 02:10:27,840
does for people who

2798
02:10:27,840 --> 02:10:29,040
live in the city if they want to move

2799
02:10:29,040 --> 02:10:30,560
out of the city so i think it's a lot to

2800
02:10:30,560 --> 02:10:32,639
consider but i

2801
02:10:32,639 --> 02:10:34,079
strongly believe we need to consider it

2802
02:10:34,079 --> 02:10:36,159
because our workforce is down and you

2803
02:10:36,159 --> 02:10:37,920
know all the departments that um that

2804
02:10:37,920 --> 02:10:39,199
i've spoken with

2805
02:10:39,199 --> 02:10:42,079
has you know how they're running on a on

2806
02:10:42,079 --> 02:10:44,079
a shoestring basically and everybody's

2807
02:10:44,079 --> 02:10:45,440
understaffed so

2808
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,199
what can we do to remedy that to make

2809
02:10:47,199 --> 02:10:49,280
sure that our staff is uh

2810
02:10:49,280 --> 02:10:54,950
you know just not so overworked

2811
02:10:54,960 --> 02:10:57,360
so i will look at the code and mr coldin

2812
02:10:57,360 --> 02:10:59,679
um you know i'll have those discussions

2813
02:10:59,679 --> 02:11:01,119
with you and then we can bring you back

2814
02:11:01,119 --> 02:11:03,119
to the council what's currently here

2815
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:05,040
and um if the residency if it means the

2816
02:11:05,040 --> 02:11:07,440
residency board needs to be called

2817
02:11:07,440 --> 02:11:09,199
well definitely you know we would have

2818
02:11:09,199 --> 02:11:14,149
to work on that

2819
02:11:14,159 --> 02:11:15,840
any other questions on this so we'll

2820
02:11:15,840 --> 02:11:17,679
bring it back in two weeks be back in

2821
02:11:17,679 --> 02:11:21,350
two weeks okay

2822
02:11:21,360 --> 02:11:31,189
motion to return

2823
02:11:31,199 --> 02:11:32,400
so i'd like to call to the order of the

2824
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:33,679
public safety committee we have two

2825
02:11:33,679 --> 02:11:36,400
items that will follow us the first is a

2826
02:11:36,400 --> 02:11:38,560
discussion reducing city limit to 25

2827
02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:41,119
miles an hour and i'll be talked to my

2828
02:11:41,119 --> 02:11:42,400
company

2829
02:11:42,400 --> 02:11:43,599
thank you

2830
02:11:43,599 --> 02:11:45,620
um well

2831
02:11:45,620 --> 02:11:46,880
[Music]

2832
02:11:46,880 --> 02:11:49,599
as you know the um

2833
02:11:49,599 --> 02:11:52,639
state assembly and senate have passed

2834
02:11:52,639 --> 02:11:54,159
what we asked for

2835
02:11:54,159 --> 02:11:56,480
um i think last year was that mr

2836
02:11:56,480 --> 02:11:59,280
palamani um had asked

2837
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:01,199
had brought forward i think in the last

2838
02:12:01,199 --> 02:12:03,040
couple of years you brought forth

2839
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:04,639
something two years ago and then last

2840
02:12:04,639 --> 02:12:07,599
year last year was to go to the state to

2841
02:12:07,599 --> 02:12:09,760
ask that we would get the ability to be

2842
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:11,679
able to um

2843
02:12:11,679 --> 02:12:13,599
lower the speed limit within the city

2844
02:12:13,599 --> 02:12:16,079
the 25 miles per hour so although that

2845
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:18,400
has that's now awaiting

2846
02:12:18,400 --> 02:12:20,560
on the governor's signature

2847
02:12:20,560 --> 02:12:22,960
uh for that and i don't know when that

2848
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:25,119
might happen but i

2849
02:12:25,119 --> 02:12:27,440
asked to meet with the mayor and the

2850
02:12:27,440 --> 02:12:30,639
chief and uh our assistant chief

2851
02:12:30,639 --> 02:12:33,840
and mr coluccio uh last week so that we

2852
02:12:33,840 --> 02:12:35,280
could start talking about some of the

2853
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:37,440
issues that would be involved in

2854
02:12:37,440 --> 02:12:39,119
reducing the

2855
02:12:39,119 --> 02:12:41,599
speed limit to 25 miles per hour we've

2856
02:12:41,599 --> 02:12:44,639
certainly heard from our residents um

2857
02:12:44,639 --> 02:12:46,400
whether it be the

2858
02:12:46,400 --> 02:12:48,560
sun the united neighborhood association

2859
02:12:48,560 --> 02:12:51,840
or just i'm sure uh it's definitely i'm

2860
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:53,679
getting calls i got

2861
02:12:53,679 --> 02:12:56,560
emails and calls today um but every week

2862
02:12:56,560 --> 02:12:58,560
probably all of us are hearing from

2863
02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:01,520
residents about the speeding issues that

2864
02:13:01,520 --> 02:13:04,239
are happening in the city as a major

2865
02:13:04,239 --> 02:13:06,800
quality of life issue and a safety issue

2866
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:10,320
obviously for for our pedestrians as we

2867
02:13:10,320 --> 02:13:11,679
start to think about

2868
02:13:11,679 --> 02:13:13,199
i shouldn't say start to think about but

2869
02:13:13,199 --> 02:13:15,599
as we continue to think about making the

2870
02:13:15,599 --> 02:13:18,639
city more walkable and more bikable um i

2871
02:13:18,639 --> 02:13:20,800
mean this plays into that safety aspect

2872
02:13:20,800 --> 02:13:22,000
as well

2873
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:22,719
so

2874
02:13:22,719 --> 02:13:24,320
i'm bringing it forward i would like to

2875
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,560
recommend that we actually do

2876
02:13:26,560 --> 02:13:28,079
reduce the

2877
02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:30,960
speed limit to 25 miles per hour within

2878
02:13:30,960 --> 02:13:33,520
the city um also we do have the

2879
02:13:33,520 --> 02:13:35,679
assistant chief and we have mr cruzo

2880
02:13:35,679 --> 02:13:37,920
here um who could speak

2881
02:13:37,920 --> 02:13:40,639
to their side of what they think

2882
02:13:40,639 --> 02:13:42,000
regarding

2883
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,000
the signage and everything that would go

2884
02:13:44,000 --> 02:13:46,639
into that uh change as well as the

2885
02:13:46,639 --> 02:13:48,960
enforcement issues so if we could maybe

2886
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:51,599
ask them to come forward

2887
02:13:51,599 --> 02:13:54,629
sure sure

2888
02:13:54,639 --> 02:13:55,760
so yes

2889
02:13:55,760 --> 02:13:59,360
we did a defending defend keeping um

2890
02:13:59,360 --> 02:14:03,199
database of science since about 1999

2891
02:14:03,199 --> 02:14:04,960
you know an actual database we have

2892
02:14:04,960 --> 02:14:07,440
files for all the city streets but in

2893
02:14:07,440 --> 02:14:10,119
the database and there's been about

2894
02:14:10,119 --> 02:14:12,400
141 um

2895
02:14:12,400 --> 02:14:15,199
30 mile an hour speed limits uh in that

2896
02:14:15,199 --> 02:14:16,400
database

2897
02:14:16,400 --> 02:14:19,599
uh installed repaired replace so

2898
02:14:19,599 --> 02:14:22,719
if we added an estimate to that

2899
02:14:22,719 --> 02:14:25,679
maybe we're talking 200 signs that would

2900
02:14:25,679 --> 02:14:28,800
have to be replaced someplace in that

2901
02:14:28,800 --> 02:14:30,480
vicinity because you know you're going

2902
02:14:30,480 --> 02:14:33,199
to get requests for additional signs

2903
02:14:33,199 --> 02:14:34,079
um

2904
02:14:34,079 --> 02:14:36,960
you know over what we have now

2905
02:14:36,960 --> 02:14:43,520
so we're estimating around forty dollars

2906
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:46,159
a sign or something around there prices

2907
02:14:46,159 --> 02:14:48,800
go up horribly and take forever to get i

2908
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:50,000
think we're probably

2909
02:14:50,000 --> 02:14:52,480
um if we were going to do this

2910
02:14:52,480 --> 02:14:54,320
i think we're talking three to four

2911
02:14:54,320 --> 02:14:55,679
months at least

2912
02:14:55,679 --> 02:14:57,280
um

2913
02:14:57,280 --> 02:14:59,520
maybe around ten thousand dollars that's

2914
02:14:59,520 --> 02:15:02,159
what i'm estimating um

2915
02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:03,760
for the signs and

2916
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,639
some of the installation

2917
02:15:06,639 --> 02:15:08,480
we talked with the mayor he was we

2918
02:15:08,480 --> 02:15:11,520
talked about uh refurbishing signs and

2919
02:15:11,520 --> 02:15:13,599
yes we can do that but

2920
02:15:13,599 --> 02:15:15,840
i know we need to do this on a

2921
02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:17,920
rather quick basis so that we don't have

2922
02:15:17,920 --> 02:15:21,199
mixed 25s and 30s up in the city which

2923
02:15:21,199 --> 02:15:23,760
will be very confusing um

2924
02:15:23,760 --> 02:15:26,159
and that size sign we actually can use

2925
02:15:26,159 --> 02:15:28,639
for other signs that we have out there

2926
02:15:28,639 --> 02:15:31,119
so i'm not um concerned about wasting

2927
02:15:31,119 --> 02:15:33,520
the metal if you will we resurface most

2928
02:15:33,520 --> 02:15:34,880
of our signs

2929
02:15:34,880 --> 02:15:37,119
so um yeah

2930
02:15:37,119 --> 02:15:40,000
so it's certainly something we can do

2931
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:43,830
my own couple of comments um

2932
02:15:43,840 --> 02:15:46,000
very difficult to enforce the 30 mile an

2933
02:15:46,000 --> 02:15:48,239
hour speed limit we have out there so i

2934
02:15:48,239 --> 02:15:51,440
don't want anyone to be

2935
02:15:51,440 --> 02:15:54,639
the solution that 25 is going to be any

2936
02:15:54,639 --> 02:15:58,159
easier to enforce um

2937
02:15:58,159 --> 02:15:59,920
you know it's a feel-good thing i think

2938
02:15:59,920 --> 02:16:02,639
that's certainly important that we're

2939
02:16:02,639 --> 02:16:04,400
looking in the right direction

2940
02:16:04,400 --> 02:16:06,400
but it is going to take enforcement and

2941
02:16:06,400 --> 02:16:08,800
maybe that's something that we need to

2942
02:16:08,800 --> 02:16:10,800
consider as far as

2943
02:16:10,800 --> 02:16:14,000
some additional dollars for

2944
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:15,920
some of that enforcement right off the

2945
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:19,669
bat to make sure that

2946
02:16:19,679 --> 02:16:21,760
you know we start off in the right

2947
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:23,440
direction we didn't talk about that

2948
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:26,079
before but that is definitely

2949
02:16:26,079 --> 02:16:28,960
an avenue that you should consider

2950
02:16:28,960 --> 02:16:30,560
taking to try to make sure that

2951
02:16:30,560 --> 02:16:36,070
enforcement is done

2952
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:38,000
oh what what do you actually mean by

2953
02:16:38,000 --> 02:16:40,000
enforcement

2954
02:16:40,000 --> 02:16:43,120
and putting speedy tickets yeah

2955
02:16:43,120 --> 02:16:45,679
officers going out in the street

2956
02:16:45,679 --> 02:16:48,240
reminding people of the new speeds

2957
02:16:48,240 --> 02:16:50,479
ticketing when necessary potentially

2958
02:16:50,479 --> 02:16:52,240
ticketing when the

2959
02:16:52,240 --> 02:16:55,359
speed is you know 15 miles over the

2960
02:16:55,359 --> 02:17:08,469
speed limit right maybe i should shut up

2961
02:17:08,479 --> 02:17:10,719
okay so you talked about refurbishing

2962
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:13,120
the signs of replacing signs 10 000

2963
02:17:13,120 --> 02:17:15,359
about ten thousand dollars so um is

2964
02:17:15,359 --> 02:17:17,280
there an opportunity just to actually

2965
02:17:17,280 --> 02:17:18,719
paint the new numbers onto something

2966
02:17:18,719 --> 02:17:20,559
that could be riveted to the current

2967
02:17:20,559 --> 02:17:23,760
signs so that the cost is not um

2968
02:17:23,760 --> 02:17:26,000
as much and then the signs can actually

2969
02:17:26,000 --> 02:17:28,000
stay in place while you do it it's not

2970
02:17:28,000 --> 02:17:29,439
taking them down to reinstall them

2971
02:17:29,439 --> 02:17:30,719
they're just making out of whatever

2972
02:17:30,719 --> 02:17:32,160
material it's made out of and i don't

2973
02:17:32,160 --> 02:17:34,880
know all the technical terms however

2974
02:17:34,880 --> 02:17:36,399
so that you know stands up to the

2975
02:17:36,399 --> 02:17:38,160
weather et cetera and just riveting it

2976
02:17:38,160 --> 02:17:41,120
over 30 just putting 25 to 30. yeah and

2977
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:42,880
there would be some cost savings there

2978
02:17:42,880 --> 02:17:46,000
it's possible to buy a you know fine

2979
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:48,399
metal plate though and put that 25 on it

2980
02:17:48,399 --> 02:17:50,000
i can't go out in the field and do it

2981
02:17:50,000 --> 02:17:51,840
you'd have them all

2982
02:17:51,840 --> 02:17:54,080
cock-eyed

2983
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:55,920
to do that but yeah we could put them on

2984
02:17:55,920 --> 02:17:57,519
plates and then drill the plates and put

2985
02:17:57,519 --> 02:17:59,439
them on but remember a lot of these

2986
02:17:59,439 --> 02:18:02,960
signs like i said are going back to 1999

2987
02:18:02,960 --> 02:18:05,040
and they're not in a condition that has

2988
02:18:05,040 --> 02:18:06,240
the

2989
02:18:06,240 --> 02:18:08,719
proper retro reflectivity to make sure

2990
02:18:08,719 --> 02:18:11,599
that the signs are visible right as well

2991
02:18:11,599 --> 02:18:14,080
so it's really an opportunity to

2992
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:15,200
um

2993
02:18:15,200 --> 02:18:17,280
you know again i'm not wasting any metal

2994
02:18:17,280 --> 02:18:18,639
i'm going to take that metal down and

2995
02:18:18,639 --> 02:18:20,800
we're going to put a new face on it and

2996
02:18:20,800 --> 02:18:21,599
put

2997
02:18:21,599 --> 02:18:23,359
either another speed like a sign or some

2998
02:18:23,359 --> 02:18:25,280
other sign that's uh

2999
02:18:25,280 --> 02:18:28,160
24 by 30 inches but the new numbers

3000
02:18:28,160 --> 02:18:29,599
could be reflected

3001
02:18:29,599 --> 02:18:34,080
if you just added the numbers right it's not the proper way to do it i will

3002
02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:35,120
tell you that

3003
02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:36,399
could it be done

3004
02:18:36,399 --> 02:18:38,319
yeah but it's not the proper way to do

3005
02:18:38,319 --> 02:18:39,040
it

3006
02:18:39,040 --> 02:18:41,920
you want the science to be able to um

3007
02:18:41,920 --> 02:18:44,240
be on there you know the signs are dirty

3008
02:18:44,240 --> 02:18:45,840
up there you got to take them down and

3009
02:18:45,840 --> 02:18:48,240
clean them it's it's not that easy to

3010
02:18:48,240 --> 02:18:50,160
process to do that

3011
02:18:50,160 --> 02:18:52,880
especially well i mean i think also um

3012
02:18:52,880 --> 02:18:54,960
we spoke about the fact that if we were

3013
02:18:54,960 --> 02:18:56,620
to make the um

3014
02:18:56,620 --> 02:18:58,080
[Music]

3015
02:18:58,080 --> 02:19:00,240
well i mean there's less science needed

3016
02:19:00,240 --> 02:19:02,639
if we're making this change throughout

3017
02:19:02,639 --> 02:19:04,960
the city's um speed limit now some of

3018
02:19:04,960 --> 02:19:06,399
the streets would still stay at the

3019
02:19:06,399 --> 02:19:09,359
higher speed limit um that are not city

3020
02:19:09,359 --> 02:19:11,120
there's there's stuff within the ledge i

3021
02:19:11,120 --> 02:19:12,479
mean you can speak to this because

3022
02:19:12,479 --> 02:19:14,080
there's a couple of streams in the city

3023
02:19:14,080 --> 02:19:16,719
such as upper state street that has a

3024
02:19:16,719 --> 02:19:19,359
35 mile an hour speed limit and sections

3025
02:19:19,359 --> 02:19:20,880
of erie boulevard that are state

3026
02:19:20,880 --> 02:19:23,359
maintained that are 40 miles an hour but

3027
02:19:23,359 --> 02:19:25,200
i mean the majority of the city if you

3028
02:19:25,200 --> 02:19:28,160
do a city wide would be 25 miles an hour

3029
02:19:28,160 --> 02:19:31,040
except for uh in front of the school

3030
02:19:31,040 --> 02:19:40,790
hosted schools that are

3031
02:19:40,800 --> 02:19:44,160
um although your comments are kind of

3032
02:19:44,160 --> 02:19:45,599
it's not necessarily negative very

3033
02:19:45,599 --> 02:19:47,040
realistic that just lowering the speed

3034
02:19:47,040 --> 02:19:49,520
limit might not just fix this problem

3035
02:19:49,520 --> 02:19:51,920
speeding in the city um but i wanted to

3036
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:53,200
take this opportunity to ask you have

3037
02:19:53,200 --> 02:19:55,120
you noticed any benefits from the led

3038
02:19:55,120 --> 02:19:56,800
stop signs

3039
02:19:56,800 --> 02:19:58,960
increasing visibility and seeing if that

3040
02:19:58,960 --> 02:20:01,120
actually has paid dividends and

3041
02:20:01,120 --> 02:20:03,760
so that's a really uh good question i'm

3042
02:20:03,760 --> 02:20:06,000
looking for the full year we got about

3043
02:20:06,000 --> 02:20:08,479
six months in on them i've gotten

3044
02:20:08,479 --> 02:20:11,120
extremely positive feedback from uh

3045
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:15,600
residents uh you know the intersections that we

3046
02:20:15,600 --> 02:20:17,520
placed them you can see those signs uh

3047
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:18,479
um

3048
02:20:18,479 --> 02:20:19,439
uh

3049
02:20:19,439 --> 02:20:22,080
and then a a whole block or a block and

3050
02:20:22,080 --> 02:20:25,040
a half away um had positive feedback

3051
02:20:25,040 --> 02:20:27,280
from the police department as well i

3052
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:30,399
think that's a great opportunity but

3053
02:20:30,399 --> 02:20:32,640
i think we need to be careful with them

3054
02:20:32,640 --> 02:20:34,800
and make sure that where we place them

3055
02:20:34,800 --> 02:20:35,920
is

3056
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:38,640
an intersection or location that needs

3057
02:20:38,640 --> 02:20:42,240
an improvement right we don't um i get

3058
02:20:42,240 --> 02:20:44,319
i'm already receiving requests from

3059
02:20:44,319 --> 02:20:46,640
people that say oh you got one here i

3060
02:20:46,640 --> 02:20:48,560
want one i want one what we you got to

3061
02:20:48,560 --> 02:20:50,880
have a reason right you got either high

3062
02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:58,800
accident volumes or um you know an engineering decision

3063
02:20:58,800 --> 02:21:00,240
based on the geometry of the

3064
02:21:00,240 --> 02:21:01,760
intersection that makes the stop sign

3065
02:21:01,760 --> 02:21:03,920
difficult to see i believe that there

3066
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:07,600
needs to be um reasons to

3067
02:21:07,600 --> 02:21:10,319
place them i think there's 17 1800 hours

3068
02:21:10,319 --> 02:21:11,680
and not cheap

3069
02:21:11,680 --> 02:21:13,840
not that money you know it's safety

3070
02:21:13,840 --> 02:21:16,880
money it's safety without a doubt but um

3071
02:21:16,880 --> 02:21:18,880
you know if if both things can do the

3072
02:21:18,880 --> 02:21:21,200
same thing then you know why use the

3073
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:23,600
more expensive uh tool right you know

3074
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:25,280
why use a

3075
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:27,920
sledgehammer and a

3076
02:21:27,920 --> 02:21:30,640
hammer holder right so yes i think that

3077
02:21:30,640 --> 02:21:33,840
they work very well um so far but you

3078
02:21:33,840 --> 02:21:35,280
know once the year is up we'll look at

3079
02:21:35,280 --> 02:21:37,520
the accident history for that year and

3080
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:40,560
see uh we'll get some quantified data to

3081
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:42,000
be able to come back to you and say yeah

3082
02:21:42,000 --> 02:21:45,280
this is this is a tool that we should um

3083
02:21:45,280 --> 02:21:50,150
you know use on a more regular basis

3084
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:52,319
before assistant chief speaks i just

3085
02:21:52,319 --> 02:21:54,720
want to say that and i'm going to have

3086
02:21:54,720 --> 02:21:56,080
to read this because i won't be able to

3087
02:21:56,080 --> 02:21:58,160
remember it all but just to speak to

3088
02:21:58,160 --> 02:21:59,680
what you're saying in fact there is

3089
02:21:59,680 --> 02:22:01,600
research that shows first of all if

3090
02:22:01,600 --> 02:22:04,240
you're lowering the speed limit um

3091
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:06,640
let's say someone gets hit by a car if

3092
02:22:06,640 --> 02:22:09,439
the car is going slower there's

3093
02:22:09,439 --> 02:22:11,439
more of a chance that the person is

3094
02:22:11,439 --> 02:22:12,720
going to live

3095
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:14,640
that gets hit so there's that piece but

3096
02:22:14,640 --> 02:22:16,560
also there are

3097
02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:18,720
from the insurance institute

3098
02:22:18,720 --> 02:22:20,640
lowering the speed limit just by five

3099
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:22,960
miles per hour on city street streets

3100
02:22:22,960 --> 02:22:25,439
does improve safety outcomes for

3101
02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:27,359
motorists pedestrians and bicyclists by

3102
02:22:27,359 --> 02:22:29,439
reducing the incidence of speeding the

3103
02:22:29,439 --> 02:22:32,319
study focused on boston which in 2017

3104
02:22:32,319 --> 02:22:34,960
lowered its default speed limit from 30

3105
02:22:34,960 --> 02:22:37,439
to 25 miles per hour they found that

3106
02:22:37,439 --> 02:22:39,200
after the city lowered its speed limit

3107
02:22:39,200 --> 02:22:40,720
the estimated odds of a vehicle

3108
02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:45,359
exceeding 35 miles per hour fell by 29.3

3109
02:22:45,359 --> 02:22:47,840
the uh odds of a vehicle exceeding 30

3110
02:22:47,840 --> 02:22:50,640
miles per hour fell by 8.5

3111
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:53,520
and by 2.9 percent of exceeding 25 miles

3112
02:22:53,520 --> 02:22:56,240
per hour and the same thing um in the

3113
02:22:56,240 --> 02:22:57,760
new york city in terms of the

3114
02:22:57,760 --> 02:22:59,280
percentages

3115
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:01,600
of accidents um when they lowered from

3116
02:23:01,600 --> 02:23:04,399
30 to 25 miles per hour as well so there

3117
02:23:04,399 --> 02:23:06,000
actually has been

3118
02:23:06,000 --> 02:23:07,439
research

3119
02:23:07,439 --> 02:23:09,359
that has shown i'm not

3120
02:23:09,359 --> 02:23:11,200
suggesting at all that i think that this

3121
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:12,720
is going to eliminate the problem of

3122
02:23:12,720 --> 02:23:14,880
speeding and god knows we need to still

3123
02:23:14,880 --> 02:23:16,960
talk about fireworks and noise

3124
02:23:16,960 --> 02:23:20,000
as another topic but i just wanted to

3125
02:23:20,000 --> 02:23:22,240
bring it up as something

3126
02:23:22,240 --> 02:23:25,439
in terms of perhaps it might help us

3127
02:23:25,439 --> 02:23:27,439
get a handle on the speed of machine oh

3128
02:23:27,439 --> 02:23:29,600
mccarthy

3129
02:23:29,600 --> 02:23:31,520
yeah i think we've all gotten the phone

3130
02:23:31,520 --> 02:23:34,720
calls i was feeding or witnessed it

3131
02:23:34,720 --> 02:23:36,399
firsthand

3132
02:23:36,399 --> 02:23:37,520
and

3133
02:23:37,520 --> 02:23:39,760
you know some of it is a big education

3134
02:23:39,760 --> 02:23:43,200
curve to get people to just be compliant

3135
02:23:43,200 --> 02:23:46,560
but it's you know this topic uh

3136
02:23:46,560 --> 02:23:48,800
the next one that the council president

3137
02:23:48,800 --> 02:23:51,280
brought a couple times we've had

3138
02:23:51,280 --> 02:23:53,359
just trouble making the decision where

3139
02:23:53,359 --> 02:23:55,280
to put the one or two

3140
02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:56,240
uh

3141
02:23:56,240 --> 02:23:58,399
speed humps in place

3142
02:23:58,399 --> 02:24:00,880
i mean probably the way to get the

3143
02:24:00,880 --> 02:24:03,280
message out is doing this across the

3144
02:24:03,280 --> 02:24:04,960
board so you're modifying the overall

3145
02:24:04,960 --> 02:24:06,240
speed

3146
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:07,760
those flashing

3147
02:24:07,760 --> 02:24:10,560
stop signs do have an impact whether

3148
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:12,960
it's just because they're new

3149
02:24:12,960 --> 02:24:13,680
but

3150
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:15,040
i seem to

3151
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:16,080
my

3152
02:24:16,080 --> 02:24:19,840
unofficial or non-scientific observation

3153
02:24:19,840 --> 02:24:21,040
uh

3154
02:24:21,040 --> 02:24:23,520
we seem to getting more compliant so

3155
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:25,520
if we can do

3156
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:28,000
the couple of speed humps you do the

3157
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:29,680
change in the speed

3158
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:31,680
we do another

3159
02:24:31,680 --> 02:24:34,720
four or five intersections with the

3160
02:24:34,720 --> 02:24:36,240
flashing uh

3161
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:37,120
lights

3162
02:24:37,120 --> 02:24:38,880
that it

3163
02:24:38,880 --> 02:24:40,800
becomes more of a city-wide message

3164
02:24:40,800 --> 02:24:43,120
that's trying to be more encompassing

3165
02:24:43,120 --> 02:24:44,640
that hopefully will get people's

3166
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:46,560
attention and

3167
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:48,080
again

3168
02:24:48,080 --> 02:24:50,399
raise the level of compliance

3169
02:24:50,399 --> 02:24:52,640
and simultaneously then you can do some

3170
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:54,640
enforcement when you do the enforcement

3171
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:57,120
you always push back over being overly

3172
02:24:57,120 --> 02:24:58,560
aggressive nobody likes getting the

3173
02:24:58,560 --> 02:25:00,240
ticket

3174
02:25:00,240 --> 02:25:02,000
and it's how do you

3175
02:25:02,000 --> 02:25:04,720
just educate people to

3176
02:25:04,720 --> 02:25:06,720
play by the rules and we all benefit

3177
02:25:06,720 --> 02:25:07,760
from that

3178
02:25:07,760 --> 02:25:10,319
that's from me so two things first of

3179
02:25:10,319 --> 02:25:12,880
all with the insurance companies

3180
02:25:12,880 --> 02:25:14,240
uh given that

3181
02:25:14,240 --> 02:25:16,399
if we do this they'll probably save lots

3182
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:18,960
of money we should approach them and try

3183
02:25:18,960 --> 02:25:20,800
to get something from them

3184
02:25:20,800 --> 02:25:27,110
um

3185
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:29,760
and secondly with the enforcement piece

3186
02:25:29,760 --> 02:25:32,640
the technological component

3187
02:25:32,640 --> 02:25:35,280
is an important piece in regards like

3188
02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,680
speed cameras and things like that

3189
02:25:37,680 --> 02:25:39,760
right now we're restricted to just

3190
02:25:39,760 --> 02:25:41,359
around school

3191
02:25:41,359 --> 02:25:44,080
if we get home rule for that

3192
02:25:44,080 --> 02:25:44,880
um

3193
02:25:44,880 --> 02:25:47,040
i don't believe we did

3194
02:25:47,040 --> 02:25:49,680
so i think we should also

3195
02:25:49,680 --> 02:25:52,000
make a resolution asking the state for

3196
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:54,960
an end to home rule and things like that

3197
02:25:54,960 --> 02:25:57,040
so that we can

3198
02:25:57,040 --> 02:25:58,720
do the things that we need in our

3199
02:25:58,720 --> 02:26:01,520
community not just us but across the

3200
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:02,479
state

3201
02:26:02,479 --> 02:26:03,359
and

3202
02:26:03,359 --> 02:26:05,600
i would recommend we do a resolution

3203
02:26:05,600 --> 02:26:08,960
asking mistake to do that

3204
02:26:08,960 --> 02:26:11,680
just in follows that where the

3205
02:26:11,680 --> 02:26:13,520
cameras around the school

3206
02:26:13,520 --> 02:26:17,200
we are able today to

3207
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:18,720
i say we

3208
02:26:18,720 --> 02:26:21,439
the global community you can put

3209
02:26:21,439 --> 02:26:27,520
cameras on school buses that will fly

3210
02:26:27,520 --> 02:26:30,000
i mean the license plate reader so when

3211
02:26:30,000 --> 02:26:31,040
a car

3212
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:33,120
goes past the bus that is stopped the

3213
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:36,080
lights flashing uh and the fine on that

3214
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:38,110
is i think 250 dollars

3215
02:26:38,110 --> 02:26:39,600
[Music]

3216
02:26:39,600 --> 02:26:40,880
i

3217
02:26:40,880 --> 02:26:42,399
entitled having a conversation with

3218
02:26:42,399 --> 02:26:44,800
school superintendent

3219
02:26:44,800 --> 02:26:46,080
would require

3220
02:26:46,080 --> 02:26:46,840
their

3221
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:49,200
participation uh some activity in the

3222
02:26:49,200 --> 02:26:50,800
county but

3223
02:26:50,800 --> 02:26:53,840
i think that would

3224
02:26:53,840 --> 02:26:54,800
give us

3225
02:26:54,800 --> 02:26:56,560
a higher level of

3226
02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:58,960
compliance it's probably going to be in

3227
02:26:58,960 --> 02:27:00,399
the short term where people are still

3228
02:27:00,399 --> 02:27:01,600
violating you're going to get some

3229
02:27:01,600 --> 02:27:02,640
revenue

3230
02:27:02,640 --> 02:27:05,120
that might offset some of the costs

3231
02:27:05,120 --> 02:27:07,439
where we're either doing the upgrades on

3232
02:27:07,439 --> 02:27:09,040
the stop signs or

3233
02:27:09,040 --> 02:27:11,680
put in more speed humps and

3234
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:13,920
get the

3235
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:15,040
again

3236
02:27:15,040 --> 02:27:20,870
overall speed down across the city

3237
02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:23,600
uh any other questions or comments

3238
02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:24,800
sounds pretty

3239
02:27:24,800 --> 02:27:27,429
i think

3240
02:27:27,439 --> 02:27:34,309
oh

3241
02:27:34,319 --> 02:27:36,240
plenty of time in advance to let people

3242
02:27:36,240 --> 02:27:39,920
know to do public awareness campaigns

3243
02:27:39,920 --> 02:27:42,240
what's going on you know and do a race

3244
02:27:42,240 --> 02:27:44,240
period and possibly a time to let people

3245
02:27:44,240 --> 02:27:45,920
know what we're doing and then again

3246
02:27:45,920 --> 02:27:47,600
also just don't expect that they've

3247
02:27:47,600 --> 02:27:49,760
changed overnight as far as compliance

3248
02:27:49,760 --> 02:27:51,439
goes with everybody going slower in the

3249
02:27:51,439 --> 02:27:53,600
city uh majority of you going slower in

3250
02:27:53,600 --> 02:27:55,920
the city then i think that should help

3251
02:27:55,920 --> 02:28:00,080
the masses

3252
02:28:00,090 --> 02:28:13,670
[Music]

3253
02:28:13,680 --> 02:28:14,399
so

3254
02:28:14,399 --> 02:28:16,080
thank you absolutely for your question

3255
02:28:16,080 --> 02:28:18,640
so are you suggesting that we're

3256
02:28:18,640 --> 02:28:20,319
just just for a discussion of our public

3257
02:28:20,319 --> 02:28:21,520
hearing are we waiting for the building

3258
02:28:21,520 --> 02:28:23,760
to sign well um i don't actually think

3259
02:28:23,760 --> 02:28:26,640
that we need a public hearing on this

3260
02:28:26,640 --> 02:28:29,040
issue so i know that we would have to

3261
02:28:29,040 --> 02:28:30,720
obviously wait for the governor to sign

3262
02:28:30,720 --> 02:28:33,040
this into actual

3263
02:28:33,040 --> 02:28:35,120
law but i would like to actually move

3264
02:28:35,120 --> 02:28:38,160
this out of our committee this evening

3265
02:28:38,160 --> 02:28:39,920
with that understanding that if the

3266
02:28:39,920 --> 02:28:40,960
governor

3267
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:43,280
or i should say when the governor i hope

3268
02:28:43,280 --> 02:28:44,720
um

3269
02:28:44,720 --> 02:28:47,120
would approve what the uh assembly and

3270
02:28:47,120 --> 02:28:50,000
senate have already passed um that we

3271
02:28:50,000 --> 02:28:52,880
would indeed lower our city's wide speed

3272
02:28:52,880 --> 02:28:55,680
limit to 25 miles per hour so i would

3273
02:28:55,680 --> 02:28:57,680
like to move that tonight you could move

3274
02:28:57,680 --> 02:28:59,680
it out to send a resolution to the

3275
02:28:59,680 --> 02:29:01,600
governor encouraging her to sign the

3276
02:29:01,600 --> 02:29:03,280
legislation

3277
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:05,520
would that be a separate or the same

3278
02:29:05,520 --> 02:29:07,680
thing you can do as many things as you

3279
02:29:07,680 --> 02:29:11,270
want yeah

3280
02:29:11,280 --> 02:29:12,960
it's working i i think that during the

3281
02:29:12,960 --> 02:29:14,240
resolution the mayor says to encourage

3282
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:16,240
them and then passing arms once those

3283
02:29:16,240 --> 02:29:17,439
assigned just

3284
02:29:17,439 --> 02:29:19,120
i just like do things like in order

3285
02:29:19,120 --> 02:29:20,880
that's just you know so that's that

3286
02:29:20,880 --> 02:29:24,080
would be my suggestion and also um

3287
02:29:24,080 --> 02:29:26,000
do we need to talk about the education

3288
02:29:26,000 --> 02:29:27,520
considering i'm glad that ac group will

3289
02:29:27,520 --> 02:29:29,359
brought that up because when we're

3290
02:29:29,359 --> 02:29:31,920
changing policies in the city um i i'm

3291
02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:33,439
not sure we always do the best job quite

3292
02:29:33,439 --> 02:29:35,520
frankly of letting people know that this

3293
02:29:35,520 --> 02:29:37,600
is changing so i appreciate you bringing

3294
02:29:37,600 --> 02:29:38,720
that up and that we should just

3295
02:29:38,720 --> 02:29:40,560
definitely um figure out an education

3296
02:29:40,560 --> 02:29:42,660
campaign around that

3297
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:44,000
[Music]

3298
02:29:44,000 --> 02:29:46,160
so spectrum well so i had made emotions

3299
02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:47,920
so i guess i would have to withdraw that

3300
02:29:47,920 --> 02:29:50,160
motion if we were going or add a

3301
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:52,240
separate motion i don't actually just do

3302
02:29:52,240 --> 02:29:53,439
it this way

3303
02:29:53,439 --> 02:29:55,840
just a different motion

3304
02:29:55,840 --> 02:29:57,760
because nobody seconded it okay so my

3305
02:29:57,760 --> 02:29:59,920
first motion would be that we

3306
02:29:59,920 --> 02:30:01,040
uh

3307
02:30:01,040 --> 02:30:03,040
create a resolution

3308
02:30:03,040 --> 02:30:04,720
but that we

3309
02:30:04,720 --> 02:30:08,240
would encourage the governor to um sign

3310
02:30:08,240 --> 02:30:12,160
off on the uh on the legislation

3311
02:30:12,160 --> 02:30:14,080
i i have the specific numbers if you

3312
02:30:14,080 --> 02:30:15,600
need that but

3313
02:30:15,600 --> 02:30:19,520
yeah right yep it's to uh

3314
02:30:19,520 --> 02:30:21,120
to

3315
02:30:21,120 --> 02:30:22,960
approve the

3316
02:30:22,960 --> 02:30:24,160
um

3317
02:30:24,160 --> 02:30:27,760
the bills that were passed in the senate

3318
02:30:27,760 --> 02:30:30,319
and the assembly to amend

3319
02:30:30,319 --> 02:30:33,520
vehicle and traffic loss section 1643

3320
02:30:33,520 --> 02:30:35,840
can reduce the um

3321
02:30:35,840 --> 02:30:38,720
minimum speed limit to 25 miles per hour

3322
02:30:38,720 --> 02:30:40,479
yeah the till the city expanding do you

3323
02:30:40,479 --> 02:30:41,920
have the bill numbers it's uh senate

3324
02:30:41,920 --> 02:30:44,960
bill number 2021

3325
02:30:44,960 --> 02:30:46,640
i don't have the assembly number offhand

3326
02:30:46,640 --> 02:30:49,200
okay i'm thinking let's look at that

3327
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:50,399
the last time i looked i don't believe

3328
02:30:50,399 --> 02:30:53,040
they had transmitted that legislation to

3329
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,520
the governor so it's still just time to

3330
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:57,840
act down and they actually send it to

3331
02:30:57,840 --> 02:31:12,950
the government the governor has

3332
02:31:12,960 --> 02:31:14,560
to make the motion that once this is

3333
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:16,479
signed by the governor that the city of

3334
02:31:16,479 --> 02:31:18,640
schenectady would lower its

3335
02:31:18,640 --> 02:31:21,680
city's speed limit to 25 miles per hour

3336
02:31:21,680 --> 02:31:24,000
um can i just go back to the council on

3337
02:31:24,000 --> 02:31:25,359
council

3338
02:31:25,359 --> 02:31:27,280
going in order i would just like to see

3339
02:31:27,280 --> 02:31:29,040
this little sign before i mean you can

3340
02:31:29,040 --> 02:31:30,960
do it immediately after

3341
02:31:30,960 --> 02:31:33,830
so because

3342
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:35,280
i'm sure once the governor gets the

3343
02:31:35,280 --> 02:31:36,800
resolution from the council she's going

3344
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:37,840
to say

3345
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:40,950
oh yeah yeah

3346
02:31:40,960 --> 02:31:42,720
but i just feel like you know once you

3347
02:31:42,720 --> 02:31:43,760
find that we would then pass that

3348
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:46,240
resolution that to me just makes sense

3349
02:31:46,240 --> 02:31:47,600
in terms of that

3350
02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:48,399
so

3351
02:31:48,399 --> 02:31:50,560
i hear what you're saying um i just know

3352
02:31:50,560 --> 02:31:51,439
that

3353
02:31:51,439 --> 02:31:53,840
in speaking with mr cluccio for example

3354
02:31:53,840 --> 02:31:57,760
um if we were able to well

3355
02:31:57,760 --> 02:31:59,040
i mean we're going to have to be ready

3356
02:31:59,040 --> 02:32:01,120
to go in terms of ordering signage in

3357
02:32:01,120 --> 02:32:03,040
terms of

3358
02:32:03,040 --> 02:32:05,439
seeing what the staffing level is going

3359
02:32:05,439 --> 02:32:08,000
to be like thinking about the education

3360
02:32:08,000 --> 02:32:09,439
um i think

3361
02:32:09,439 --> 02:32:10,640
you know i think this is something that

3362
02:32:10,640 --> 02:32:12,160
we've been talking about for over two

3363
02:32:12,160 --> 02:32:14,800
years now um well i mean i've only been

3364
02:32:14,800 --> 02:32:16,080
on council for two and a half years and

3365
02:32:16,080 --> 02:32:18,000
we've been talking about it that whole

3366
02:32:18,000 --> 02:32:19,760
time so i just don't want it to be

3367
02:32:19,760 --> 02:32:21,359
something that lingers out there and

3368
02:32:21,359 --> 02:32:23,840
that no action is taken by this council

3369
02:32:23,840 --> 02:32:25,520
on something that i think that you know

3370
02:32:25,520 --> 02:32:27,840
our residents have clearly communicated

3371
02:32:27,840 --> 02:32:30,640
to us that they want they want something

3372
02:32:30,640 --> 02:32:32,960
like this to happen so

3373
02:32:32,960 --> 02:32:34,960
i i don't think that we linger out there

3374
02:32:34,960 --> 02:32:36,399
i mean once she finds him with the

3375
02:32:36,399 --> 02:32:37,680
immediate order signs because we know

3376
02:32:37,680 --> 02:32:39,200
this is coming so i don't think it would

3377
02:32:39,200 --> 02:32:41,520
be lingering out there um mr camuccio

3378
02:32:41,520 --> 02:32:42,960
said how many months is going to get to

3379
02:32:42,960 --> 02:32:43,840
do that

3380
02:32:43,840 --> 02:32:45,760
since things have been so slow i'm

3381
02:32:45,760 --> 02:32:49,830
guessing four months before i get it

3382
02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:55,820
so i

3383
02:32:55,830 --> 02:33:04,550
[Music]

3384
02:33:04,560 --> 02:33:06,479
if the city engineer signs this people

3385
02:33:06,479 --> 02:33:08,880
and do they have to have the resolution

3386
02:33:08,880 --> 02:33:10,640
doing it on their own is it a resolution

3387
02:33:10,640 --> 02:33:12,160
advising the city engineer to set the

3388
02:33:12,160 --> 02:33:15,190
speed limit

3389
02:33:15,200 --> 02:33:17,359
that's a question for well i i don't

3390
02:33:17,359 --> 02:33:18,160
know if i have the privilege of the

3391
02:33:18,160 --> 02:33:19,680
floor to speak on that

3392
02:33:19,680 --> 02:33:21,280
and

3393
02:33:21,280 --> 02:33:22,880
it's full thank you

3394
02:33:22,880 --> 02:33:26,800
um so right now uh section 248 11 of the

3395
02:33:26,800 --> 02:33:29,040
city code um

3396
02:33:29,040 --> 02:33:31,040
grants the city engineer the ability to

3397
02:33:31,040 --> 02:33:32,640
among other things set the rules and

3398
02:33:32,640 --> 02:33:34,080
regulations related to speed limits

3399
02:33:34,080 --> 02:33:36,160
throughout the city

3400
02:33:36,160 --> 02:33:37,520
that's something that the city council

3401
02:33:37,520 --> 02:33:39,600
previously granted authority to the city

3402
02:33:39,600 --> 02:33:42,640
engineer however the city council may

3403
02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:45,359
modify or repeal those rules and

3404
02:33:45,359 --> 02:33:47,280
regulations as set by the city engineer

3405
02:33:47,280 --> 02:33:48,560
by resolution

3406
02:33:48,560 --> 02:33:49,680
so the city

3407
02:33:49,680 --> 02:33:51,120
council can act

3408
02:33:51,120 --> 02:33:53,280
uh unitarily to

3409
02:33:53,280 --> 02:33:55,280
change those rules

3410
02:33:55,280 --> 02:33:56,240
um

3411
02:33:56,240 --> 02:33:58,160
obviously through a resolution that

3412
02:33:58,160 --> 02:33:59,359
would you know

3413
02:33:59,359 --> 02:34:00,960
essentially have to be either approved

3414
02:34:00,960 --> 02:34:04,319
by the mayor or if you know veto

3415
02:34:04,319 --> 02:34:06,080
going through the process

3416
02:34:06,080 --> 02:34:09,680
um that being said as a practical matter

3417
02:34:09,680 --> 02:34:11,680
and i think mr caluccio brought that up

3418
02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:13,520
brought this up there are certain

3419
02:34:13,520 --> 02:34:15,520
streets in the city that you know are

3420
02:34:15,520 --> 02:34:17,840
not 30 miles an hour they're 35 miles

3421
02:34:17,840 --> 02:34:19,760
per hour on i think upper state street

3422
02:34:19,760 --> 02:34:21,280
perhaps

3423
02:34:21,280 --> 02:34:23,040
it's obviously uh something the city

3424
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:25,040
council should consider when

3425
02:34:25,040 --> 02:34:27,680
um if they're going to take action to

3426
02:34:27,680 --> 02:34:29,280
determine if it's going to be every

3427
02:34:29,280 --> 02:34:31,200
single city street

3428
02:34:31,200 --> 02:34:32,560
within our jurisdiction that's going to

3429
02:34:32,560 --> 02:34:35,760
be set at 25 miles per hour

3430
02:34:35,760 --> 02:34:37,920
and you know there may be traffic

3431
02:34:37,920 --> 02:34:40,000
implications that the city council may

3432
02:34:40,000 --> 02:34:42,000
want to think about

3433
02:34:42,000 --> 02:34:44,000
i know i've talked to mr wallin briefly

3434
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:45,280
about it i haven't had an opportunity to

3435
02:34:45,280 --> 02:34:48,000
speak to mr galluccio about it um

3436
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:50,160
but you know i think if you're going to

3437
02:34:50,160 --> 02:34:52,000
pass a resolution at some point in time

3438
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:54,000
it's are you doing this with a broad

3439
02:34:54,000 --> 02:34:55,760
stroke and everything's going to be 25

3440
02:34:55,760 --> 02:34:57,280
and then within city streets that we

3441
02:34:57,280 --> 02:35:00,880
have control over or is it going to be

3442
02:35:00,880 --> 02:35:02,640
only certain streets

3443
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:04,720
you know absent you know you know maybe

3444
02:35:04,720 --> 02:35:05,520
it's

3445
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,840
not upper state street that's currently

3446
02:35:07,840 --> 02:35:10,000
35 maybe we want to reduce that to 30

3447
02:35:10,000 --> 02:35:12,880
miles per hour just things to consider

3448
02:35:12,880 --> 02:35:15,600
rather than just painting with a broad

3449
02:35:15,600 --> 02:35:18,150
stroke

3450
02:35:18,160 --> 02:35:19,040
i think

3451
02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:20,880
i might have misunderstood what i was

3452
02:35:20,880 --> 02:35:22,960
learning which was that i thought that

3453
02:35:22,960 --> 02:35:24,800
some of the streets that were at the

3454
02:35:24,800 --> 02:35:27,120
higher speed limit we're not under our

3455
02:35:27,120 --> 02:35:28,160
control

3456
02:35:28,160 --> 02:35:29,520
um

3457
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:31,200
and that that's why

3458
02:35:31,200 --> 02:35:34,720
those speed limits would remain in place

3459
02:35:34,720 --> 02:35:36,960
yeah if i if i may that that would only

3460
02:35:36,960 --> 02:35:48,790
be the erie bullhorn piece that's

3461
02:35:48,800 --> 02:35:50,960
allows the city to

3462
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:53,680
make an individual street 25 miles an

3463
02:35:53,680 --> 02:35:54,800
hour

3464
02:35:54,800 --> 02:35:56,080
just not

3465
02:35:56,080 --> 02:35:57,280
the city

3466
02:35:57,280 --> 02:36:04,300
in totality

3467
02:36:04,310 --> 02:36:05,600
[Music]

3468
02:36:05,600 --> 02:36:07,439
i would also like us to consider a

3469
02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:08,399
resolution

3470
02:36:08,399 --> 02:36:09,840
to the state

3471
02:36:09,840 --> 02:36:12,479
getting rid of the whole

3472
02:36:12,479 --> 02:36:15,840
designation it's an antiquated

3473
02:36:15,840 --> 02:36:17,840
ruling that the state has

3474
02:36:17,840 --> 02:36:21,200
and it allows local communities to

3475
02:36:21,200 --> 02:36:26,309
operate in a way they see fit

3476
02:36:26,319 --> 02:36:35,429
i'm not on the committee so

3477
02:36:35,439 --> 02:36:38,800
case um point uh console road back in

3478
02:36:38,800 --> 02:36:41,760
85 or around there that was changed to

3479
02:36:41,760 --> 02:36:43,439
25 miles on that

3480
02:36:43,439 --> 02:36:44,880
so that that's the only street in the

3481
02:36:44,880 --> 02:36:48,080
city that i can think of that is 25

3482
02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:54,710
miles an hour

3483
02:36:54,720 --> 02:36:56,560
there's a stop sign on like every almost

3484
02:36:56,560 --> 02:36:58,560
every other corner on console road you

3485
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:02,080
have to stop multiple times

3486
02:37:02,080 --> 02:37:05,740
what's that 1895.

3487
02:37:05,750 --> 02:37:08,319
[Music]

3488
02:37:08,319 --> 02:37:09,600
well i don't think i have a second on

3489
02:37:09,600 --> 02:37:11,120
the motion that i made

3490
02:37:11,120 --> 02:37:13,680
did you finish it all right um yeah but

3491
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:15,760
i didn't sounds like

3492
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:26,309
discussion

3493
02:37:26,319 --> 02:37:28,000
actually um

3494
02:37:28,000 --> 02:37:29,359
you know saying what the speed limit

3495
02:37:29,359 --> 02:37:33,520
would be i think it warrants i'm sorry if i if i

3496
02:37:33,520 --> 02:37:35,359
misspoke and i'm sorry to just interrupt

3497
02:37:35,359 --> 02:37:36,800
you um

3498
02:37:36,800 --> 02:37:38,240
right now the city engineer has the

3499
02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:40,399
authority to set what the speed limit is

3500
02:37:40,399 --> 02:37:42,800
in the city however the council can

3501
02:37:42,800 --> 02:37:44,640
still act to

3502
02:37:44,640 --> 02:37:46,800
modify whatever the speed limit is in

3503
02:37:46,800 --> 02:37:49,040
the city

3504
02:37:49,040 --> 02:37:50,880
by resolution

3505
02:37:50,880 --> 02:37:52,880
so if the city engineer said well i'm

3506
02:37:52,880 --> 02:37:55,200
gonna the law is changing right the law

3507
02:37:55,200 --> 02:37:57,840
changes city engineer can uniformly set

3508
02:37:57,840 --> 02:38:00,000
and uniformly say it's going to be 20

3509
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:02,000
mile 25 miles per hour on those city

3510
02:38:02,000 --> 02:38:04,399
streets city council can certainly

3511
02:38:04,399 --> 02:38:06,720
hypothetically act on its own

3512
02:38:06,720 --> 02:38:08,479
to modify

3513
02:38:08,479 --> 02:38:12,080
that rule of the city engineer

3514
02:38:12,080 --> 02:38:13,920
to say no it's not going to be 25 it's

3515
02:38:13,920 --> 02:38:15,439
going to we're going to keep it at 30.

3516
02:38:15,439 --> 02:38:17,120
that's obviously uh you know this is a

3517
02:38:17,120 --> 02:38:19,359
hypothetical but

3518
02:38:19,359 --> 02:38:21,120
whereas the city engineer has the power

3519
02:38:21,120 --> 02:38:24,399
to do it so does the city council

3520
02:38:24,399 --> 02:38:26,240
so it said based on that determination

3521
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:27,359
absolutely if someone has another

3522
02:38:27,359 --> 02:38:28,399
comment just

3523
02:38:28,399 --> 02:38:30,479
indicate that i would say if the city

3524
02:38:30,479 --> 02:38:32,080
engineers are already able to function

3525
02:38:32,080 --> 02:38:35,200
absent our resolution which could be

3526
02:38:35,200 --> 02:38:37,200
made out of order i think it's important

3527
02:38:37,200 --> 02:38:39,760
for us to remain in line with presidents

3528
02:38:39,760 --> 02:38:42,399
especially that's not going to

3529
02:38:42,399 --> 02:38:43,920
negatively affect the timeline for them

3530
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:45,840
accomplishing this which it sounds like

3531
02:38:45,840 --> 02:38:47,280
they will already have an authority to

3532
02:38:47,280 --> 02:38:48,960
institute this once governor vocal

3533
02:38:48,960 --> 02:38:52,870
science

3534
02:38:52,880 --> 02:38:55,120
that means in other words let me try to

3535
02:38:55,120 --> 02:38:57,680
i'm a little confused here so what

3536
02:38:57,680 --> 02:38:59,920
you're saying is rather than us saying

3537
02:38:59,920 --> 02:39:02,640
let's lower the speed limit to 25 we'd

3538
02:39:02,640 --> 02:39:05,200
be hoping that the city engineer would

3539
02:39:05,200 --> 02:39:07,760
lower the speed limit to 25. no i'm

3540
02:39:07,760 --> 02:39:10,000
saying that once governor uncle signs it

3541
02:39:10,000 --> 02:39:12,080
rather than putting forth a resolution

3542
02:39:12,080 --> 02:39:14,080
before she signs it remaining in

3543
02:39:14,080 --> 02:39:15,680
precedence with how things normally

3544
02:39:15,680 --> 02:39:17,680
outline especially that's not going to

3545
02:39:17,680 --> 02:39:19,680
negatively implicate

3546
02:39:19,680 --> 02:39:21,280
them getting this started before

3547
02:39:21,280 --> 02:39:25,349
speaking again

3548
02:39:25,359 --> 02:39:26,880
so i'll say if we're going to put forth

3549
02:39:26,880 --> 02:39:28,640
he's just saying wait until it's passed

3550
02:39:28,640 --> 02:39:30,800
no i know i i guess i think that that's

3551
02:39:30,800 --> 02:39:31,840
what

3552
02:39:31,840 --> 02:39:35,359
i'm hearing from both ms porterfield and

3553
02:39:35,359 --> 02:39:36,720
it sounds like we could ask the city

3554
02:39:36,720 --> 02:39:39,600
engineer to do that i mean

3555
02:39:39,600 --> 02:39:41,280
does he i'm gonna i can't wait to read

3556
02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:43,359
this uh

3557
02:39:43,359 --> 02:39:45,280
this ordinance because based on what you

3558
02:39:45,280 --> 02:39:46,640
said that he could just do that i mean

3559
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:48,640
what is it yes he could just do that

3560
02:39:48,640 --> 02:39:49,680
okay

3561
02:39:49,680 --> 02:39:51,730
i'm getting a guess even if the

3562
02:39:51,730 --> 02:39:59,030
[Music]

3563
02:39:59,040 --> 02:39:59,760
i

3564
02:39:59,760 --> 02:40:02,479
haven't read the full legislation what

3565
02:40:02,479 --> 02:40:04,160
does it say this will take effect

3566
02:40:04,160 --> 02:40:06,399
immediately it'll take effect december

3567
02:40:06,399 --> 02:40:08,160
31st

3568
02:40:08,160 --> 02:40:11,520
then the draft is immediately okay

3569
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:13,279
immediately i think it's section four of

3570
02:40:13,279 --> 02:40:15,020
the yeah

3571
02:40:15,020 --> 02:40:29,590
[Music]

3572
02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:34,230
and i kind of think he would

3573
02:40:34,240 --> 02:40:36,479
and then in terms of your motion i think

3574
02:40:36,479 --> 02:40:38,640
i have to say that it seems like that is

3575
02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:42,080
more like government operations but um i

3576
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:44,160
don't you know because that's a general

3577
02:40:44,160 --> 02:40:45,520
i think what you're suggesting goes

3578
02:40:45,520 --> 02:40:47,439
beyond public safety

3579
02:40:47,439 --> 02:40:48,640
into

3580
02:40:48,640 --> 02:40:51,040
more general operations

3581
02:40:51,040 --> 02:40:53,359
i mean it doesn't matter i mean it's a

3582
02:40:53,359 --> 02:40:55,520
resolution to the governor

3583
02:40:55,520 --> 02:40:58,160
and and to our assemblies they uh state

3584
02:40:58,160 --> 02:41:00,880
assembly and senators i mean it goes

3585
02:41:00,880 --> 02:41:03,120
across a variety of things but

3586
02:41:03,120 --> 02:41:06,080
it's an antiquated

3587
02:41:06,080 --> 02:41:08,080
law that the state has and it's about

3588
02:41:08,080 --> 02:41:10,640
time that we have

3589
02:41:10,640 --> 02:41:12,680
as local

3590
02:41:12,680 --> 02:41:15,520
municipalities the ability to do what we

3591
02:41:15,520 --> 02:41:17,520
see fit

3592
02:41:17,520 --> 02:41:20,240
so i still think we should move forward

3593
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:22,319
with that

3594
02:41:22,319 --> 02:41:24,000
i agree that we should however i think

3595
02:41:24,000 --> 02:41:25,359
that we should make sure all the

3596
02:41:25,359 --> 02:41:26,800
information is here that we you know

3597
02:41:26,800 --> 02:41:28,960
have in our packets review etc

3598
02:41:28,960 --> 02:41:30,640
and read on it and then meet up on it so

3599
02:41:30,640 --> 02:41:32,080
if you could bring that

3600
02:41:32,080 --> 02:41:33,520
i would suggest in two weeks because i

3601
02:41:33,520 --> 02:41:34,960
don't disagree

3602
02:41:34,960 --> 02:41:37,040
that we should do that i don't know what

3603
02:41:37,040 --> 02:41:39,279
you need other because it's basically

3604
02:41:39,279 --> 02:41:41,359
saying we want to enter home rule

3605
02:41:41,359 --> 02:41:43,439
legislation

3606
02:41:43,439 --> 02:41:47,120
um so if you tell me what you want

3607
02:41:47,120 --> 02:41:48,960
so so what's the word what it currently

3608
02:41:48,960 --> 02:41:50,560
says and what you want the resolution to

3609
02:41:50,560 --> 02:41:52,240
say i'd like to see that in writing

3610
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:53,760
that's just

3611
02:41:53,760 --> 02:41:57,470
who i am

3612
02:41:57,480 --> 02:42:02,230
[Music]

3613
02:42:02,240 --> 02:42:04,160
are there any other comments or topics

3614
02:42:04,160 --> 02:42:14,230
to befall the public safety committee

3615
02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:16,240
all right paul guys thank you uh so

3616
02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:18,000
we're going to move to the next agenda

3617
02:42:18,000 --> 02:42:19,680
item which is going to be discussion for

3618
02:42:19,680 --> 02:42:21,439
installing speed humps and i'll be

3619
02:42:21,439 --> 02:42:23,120
pleased to buy one

3620
02:42:23,120 --> 02:42:24,800
so i won't spend a long time because we

3621
02:42:24,800 --> 02:42:26,000
just spent a long time and i think the

3622
02:42:26,000 --> 02:42:28,000
mayor also mentioned sweet homes and

3623
02:42:28,000 --> 02:42:29,520
this is something that we decided well

3624
02:42:29,520 --> 02:42:31,040
over two years ago that we were going to

3625
02:42:31,040 --> 02:42:32,880
do my understanding is that they were

3626
02:42:32,880 --> 02:42:35,120
ordered um i'm not sure where we are

3627
02:42:35,120 --> 02:42:38,479
with that and um mr caluccio had spoken

3628
02:42:38,479 --> 02:42:42,000
to like you need to know where the um

3629
02:42:42,000 --> 02:42:43,680
where they were best needed by doing

3630
02:42:43,680 --> 02:42:46,720
traffic studies and all that um

3631
02:42:46,720 --> 02:42:48,560
i definitely know that you know we need

3632
02:42:48,560 --> 02:42:50,319
to do something because the cars are

3633
02:42:50,319 --> 02:42:52,560
just flying down the street like i mean

3634
02:42:52,560 --> 02:42:54,640
it's not even 35 it's not even 40 some

3635
02:42:54,640 --> 02:42:56,960
of them wait how fast they're going so

3636
02:42:56,960 --> 02:42:58,720
um and i think we talked about more than

3637
02:42:58,720 --> 02:43:01,279
two so we can go back and look i don't

3638
02:43:01,279 --> 02:43:02,720
remember the number

3639
02:43:02,720 --> 02:43:04,880
um that we looked at but we definitely

3640
02:43:04,880 --> 02:43:05,920
um

3641
02:43:05,920 --> 02:43:07,040
said that was something i'm going to do

3642
02:43:07,040 --> 02:43:09,200
several years ago so i think we should

3643
02:43:09,200 --> 02:43:11,279
definitely revisit it now and as we're

3644
02:43:11,279 --> 02:43:15,830
doing all of this to incorporate that

3645
02:43:15,840 --> 02:43:17,920
uh comments

3646
02:43:17,920 --> 02:43:20,000
mr well do you remember

3647
02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:34,950
how many or how long well

3648
02:43:34,960 --> 02:43:38,160
and i've been um with

3649
02:43:38,160 --> 02:43:40,160
assistant chief whipple and john

3650
02:43:40,160 --> 02:43:42,960
during this we were working on in 2021

3651
02:43:42,960 --> 02:43:45,120
it did fall off kind of our radar so to

3652
02:43:45,120 --> 02:43:46,880
speak uh some other things that were

3653
02:43:46,880 --> 02:43:48,240
coming up

3654
02:43:48,240 --> 02:43:50,560
you know one of the things that

3655
02:43:50,560 --> 02:43:52,240
you know i just want to impart on you

3656
02:43:52,240 --> 02:43:53,920
it's not to sound

3657
02:43:53,920 --> 02:43:56,160
arrogant or condescending in any way is

3658
02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:59,200
just that these are traffic control

3659
02:43:59,200 --> 02:44:02,160
devices there's an entire manual on

3660
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,160
traffic control devices from your stop

3661
02:44:04,160 --> 02:44:07,040
sign to your mile marker to yield signs

3662
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:09,359
these are regulated state traffic

3663
02:44:09,359 --> 02:44:11,200
control devices so

3664
02:44:11,200 --> 02:44:13,120
it's sometimes a little hard because

3665
02:44:13,120 --> 02:44:14,720
around the table i feel like they're

3666
02:44:14,720 --> 02:44:16,000
more

3667
02:44:16,000 --> 02:44:17,760
seen as objects

3668
02:44:17,760 --> 02:44:19,680
you know objects to be put where we

3669
02:44:19,680 --> 02:44:21,760
think they would be effective but you

3670
02:44:21,760 --> 02:44:23,439
know it's they're similar to where the

3671
02:44:23,439 --> 02:44:25,040
city engineer is the one who assigns

3672
02:44:25,040 --> 02:44:27,359
speed limits i did not write that that

3673
02:44:27,359 --> 02:44:29,439
was written historically the reason for

3674
02:44:29,439 --> 02:44:31,120
it was that the city engineer sat up

3675
02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:33,439
there at the time of 50 staff members

3676
02:44:33,439 --> 02:44:34,640
and they worked they did all the

3677
02:44:34,640 --> 02:44:36,960
analysis of the city and they assigned

3678
02:44:36,960 --> 02:44:38,240
speeds

3679
02:44:38,240 --> 02:44:40,479
you know we had 45.

3680
02:44:40,479 --> 02:44:43,120
yeah well you know now we have

3681
02:44:43,120 --> 02:44:48,790
less than fours

3682
02:44:48,800 --> 02:44:50,880
so that's where like i i think that if

3683
02:44:50,880 --> 02:44:52,560
we're going to go to 25 it is nice to

3684
02:44:52,560 --> 02:44:54,560
say but like i'd like to talk with the

3685
02:44:54,560 --> 02:44:57,359
cdta they have bus routes that use state

3686
02:44:57,359 --> 02:45:00,319
street those buses ghosts 35 they go 40

3687
02:45:00,319 --> 02:45:02,319
on erie they use the i just like to make

3688
02:45:02,319 --> 02:45:03,760
sure that everybody's aware because we

3689
02:45:03,760 --> 02:45:05,840
have you know we have main lines and

3690
02:45:05,840 --> 02:45:08,240
then we have secondary streets you know

3691
02:45:08,240 --> 02:45:10,160
and i i don't want to like we were

3692
02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:11,520
talking about paint with this broad

3693
02:45:11,520 --> 02:45:13,680
brush out there of you know we wait once

3694
02:45:13,680 --> 02:45:16,080
25. you know because i see the hungers

3695
02:45:16,080 --> 02:45:17,279
are here i'm sure they're here because

3696
02:45:17,279 --> 02:45:19,520
they want the stockade to be 25. they

3697
02:45:19,520 --> 02:45:21,359
probably want the stockade to be 50. the

3698
02:45:21,359 --> 02:45:26,950
whole city oh the whole city

3699
02:45:26,960 --> 02:45:28,479
but you know and statistics can be

3700
02:45:28,479 --> 02:45:30,160
misleading because if you go from 30 to

3701
02:45:30,160 --> 02:45:33,359
25 yes accidents go down where did 25

3702
02:45:33,359 --> 02:45:35,600
come from if you go to 20 it goes down

3703
02:45:35,600 --> 02:45:37,680
even more if you go to 15 i can walk

3704
02:45:37,680 --> 02:45:38,800
away

3705
02:45:38,800 --> 02:45:40,720
so like where did the number 25 get

3706
02:45:40,720 --> 02:45:42,319
really pulled from it

3707
02:45:42,319 --> 02:45:43,520
because it's a number

3708
02:45:43,520 --> 02:45:45,600
so i'd like i would like to look at it

3709
02:45:45,600 --> 02:45:46,720
more and that's where i've kind of going

3710
02:45:46,720 --> 02:45:49,279
with speed humps is that uh ac whipple

3711
02:45:49,279 --> 02:45:50,720
is doing a great job and he actually

3712
02:45:50,720 --> 02:45:52,880
found this speed hump procedure from the

3713
02:45:52,880 --> 02:45:55,439
city of rochester and this is saying

3714
02:45:55,439 --> 02:45:57,359
that you know if you would like to speed

3715
02:45:57,359 --> 02:45:58,800
hump in rochester you have to make a

3716
02:45:58,800 --> 02:46:01,200
letter of request it has to be evaluated

3717
02:46:01,200 --> 02:46:03,439
by engineering classification features

3718
02:46:03,439 --> 02:46:05,279
they do a traffic study

3719
02:46:05,279 --> 02:46:06,960
then they have considerations of you

3720
02:46:06,960 --> 02:46:08,560
know where is it is it by school is it

3721
02:46:08,560 --> 02:46:10,880
right here and then they need a petition

3722
02:46:10,880 --> 02:46:13,520
from the residence of 75 percent because

3723
02:46:13,520 --> 02:46:14,960
one of the things i did not think about

3724
02:46:14,960 --> 02:46:16,800
but mr crucio and i were talking about

3725
02:46:16,800 --> 02:46:18,240
is we have had things like this in the

3726
02:46:18,240 --> 02:46:20,399
past and residents don't like the noise

3727
02:46:20,399 --> 02:46:22,319
they make sometimes when they go over it

3728
02:46:22,319 --> 02:46:24,640
because it's inaudible to do

3729
02:46:24,640 --> 02:46:26,000
and it's fine when you're at work but

3730
02:46:26,000 --> 02:46:27,920
when you're trying to go to sleep some

3731
02:46:27,920 --> 02:46:29,680
people say oh my god this thing out here

3732
02:46:29,680 --> 02:46:31,359
you know and everybody wants it you know

3733
02:46:31,359 --> 02:46:33,600
not in my backyard put it down the way

3734
02:46:33,600 --> 02:46:35,200
you know so

3735
02:46:35,200 --> 02:46:36,640
we kind of came up with all this and we

3736
02:46:36,640 --> 02:46:39,760
talked about it and buying them is easy

3737
02:46:39,760 --> 02:46:42,240
i can spend 20 000 tomorrow with anthony

3738
02:46:42,240 --> 02:46:43,680
we could get you know we can get them

3739
02:46:43,680 --> 02:46:45,279
here and if we need more

3740
02:46:45,279 --> 02:46:47,760
we'll buy more but then the process of

3741
02:46:47,760 --> 02:46:48,800
where

3742
02:46:48,800 --> 02:46:50,880
i don't want to use that like we have to

3743
02:46:50,880 --> 02:46:52,560
find i know that actually you were

3744
02:46:52,560 --> 02:46:54,960
looking into some areas today based off

3745
02:46:54,960 --> 02:46:56,880
of their information

3746
02:46:56,880 --> 02:46:58,720
and i mean you had a couple yeah and i

3747
02:46:58,720 --> 02:46:59,600
don't know

3748
02:46:59,600 --> 02:47:03,269
with it

3749
02:47:03,279 --> 02:47:04,640
and there might not be locations that

3750
02:47:04,640 --> 02:47:05,920
you're thinking of they might just i'm

3751
02:47:05,920 --> 02:47:08,470
not patient

3752
02:47:08,480 --> 02:47:12,230
[Music]

3753
02:47:12,240 --> 02:47:15,040
like i want you to be seen not that

3754
02:47:15,040 --> 02:47:20,230
short

3755
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:24,550
one of the things with the rochester

3756
02:47:24,560 --> 02:47:27,200
application if you will talks about you

3757
02:47:27,200 --> 02:47:29,120
know where to put them and looking at

3758
02:47:29,120 --> 02:47:32,399
engineering specifics concerning it very

3759
02:47:32,399 --> 02:47:35,439
important piece in there it talks about

3760
02:47:35,439 --> 02:47:36,800
um

3761
02:47:36,800 --> 02:47:39,439
parallel roads and not putting them on

3762
02:47:39,439 --> 02:47:42,240
parallel roads which is something that

3763
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:44,240
i'm sure we would automatically do

3764
02:47:44,240 --> 02:47:46,479
because of the configuration of the city

3765
02:47:46,479 --> 02:47:48,160
but they don't want you to move the

3766
02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:51,200
traffic from one street to another

3767
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:53,840
that's what we hear all the time about

3768
02:47:53,840 --> 02:47:56,000
doing things on one street say you want

3769
02:47:56,000 --> 02:47:58,000
to talk about we mentioned console road

3770
02:47:58,000 --> 02:48:00,840
so let's talk about the streets between

3771
02:48:00,840 --> 02:48:05,520
um console and state street right

3772
02:48:05,520 --> 02:48:10,080
you put them on parallel streets and you do this on one street and it pushes

3773
02:48:10,080 --> 02:48:12,399
all the traffic to the other so we want

3774
02:48:12,399 --> 02:48:15,040
to make sure we don't do something to

3775
02:48:15,040 --> 02:48:18,560
um cause more of a problem on adjacent

3776
02:48:18,560 --> 02:48:20,800
street than the street that we

3777
02:48:20,800 --> 02:48:23,279
yeah and another good one here johnny

3778
02:48:23,279 --> 02:48:24,880
touched down though was that the street

3779
02:48:24,880 --> 02:48:26,560
they have under the street might must

3780
02:48:26,560 --> 02:48:31,190
not be a primary

3781
02:48:31,200 --> 02:48:32,960
emergency vehicles are going to utilize

3782
02:48:32,960 --> 02:48:34,720
it right primarily fire trucks but they

3783
02:48:34,720 --> 02:48:36,000
don't want them on that they're off they

3784
02:48:36,000 --> 02:48:37,520
also haven't heard that they want a

3785
02:48:37,520 --> 02:48:39,439
primarily residential street not a

3786
02:48:39,439 --> 02:48:40,960
commercial street so those are all the

3787
02:48:40,960 --> 02:48:41,920
things that

3788
02:48:41,920 --> 02:48:43,840
and that i guess if we have that

3789
02:48:43,840 --> 02:48:45,200
guidance if we follow this which is

3790
02:48:45,200 --> 02:48:46,880
already a really great procedure we

3791
02:48:46,880 --> 02:48:48,640
start looking and that's what you know

3792
02:48:48,640 --> 02:48:50,080
that you started looking at it's kind of

3793
02:48:50,080 --> 02:48:51,920
in the guise of that where they could go

3794
02:48:51,920 --> 02:48:54,080
yeah that would be so far away from uh

3795
02:48:54,080 --> 02:48:56,000
returns can't be over seven percent

3796
02:48:56,000 --> 02:48:57,680
grade they can't be so close to a stop

3797
02:48:57,680 --> 02:48:59,840
sign there's a lot of things that go

3798
02:48:59,840 --> 02:49:01,120
into it

3799
02:49:01,120 --> 02:49:02,800
just looking at it quick without

3800
02:49:02,800 --> 02:49:04,479
all those things in fact a solution to

3801
02:49:04,479 --> 02:49:06,640
traffic was noble by diamonds eastern

3802
02:49:06,640 --> 02:49:08,800
parkway by elmer

3803
02:49:08,800 --> 02:49:12,160
dwayne by martin luther king

3804
02:49:12,160 --> 02:49:14,160
state doesn't work uh mainstream

3805
02:49:14,160 --> 02:49:16,000
education drive there's different

3806
02:49:16,000 --> 02:49:18,000
ones that are we're getting regular

3807
02:49:18,000 --> 02:49:21,279
complaints on so those are right

3808
02:49:21,279 --> 02:49:22,720
in

3809
02:49:22,720 --> 02:49:24,800
you have to look at the need to put

3810
02:49:24,800 --> 02:49:27,520
multiple on a street as opposed to just

3811
02:49:27,520 --> 02:49:29,439
one because

3812
02:49:29,439 --> 02:49:31,040
we believe that you're going to see the

3813
02:49:31,040 --> 02:49:33,040
traffic speed up right after they go

3814
02:49:33,040 --> 02:49:35,680
over that to make up the

3815
02:49:35,680 --> 02:49:38,319
loss of time so yeah you know if we're

3816
02:49:38,319 --> 02:49:39,600
going to do this i think you got to

3817
02:49:39,600 --> 02:49:42,160
consider a couple of them in any area to

3818
02:49:42,160 --> 02:49:44,399
really make an impact okay

3819
02:49:44,399 --> 02:49:46,000
thank you

3820
02:49:46,000 --> 02:49:47,680
so do you recommend

3821
02:49:47,680 --> 02:49:50,720
doing the speed helps or not doing this

3822
02:49:50,720 --> 02:49:52,800
i think it is

3823
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:55,120
i think it's worthwhile that we can try

3824
02:49:55,120 --> 02:49:57,200
i'm just i guess the thing is is that

3825
02:49:57,200 --> 02:49:59,840
what we're talking about is

3826
02:49:59,840 --> 02:50:01,439
it was a bigger it was a bigger

3827
02:50:01,439 --> 02:50:04,080
conversation internally than just buy

3828
02:50:04,080 --> 02:50:05,760
them and put them down and when the

3829
02:50:05,760 --> 02:50:07,680
conversation got that big i think

3830
02:50:07,680 --> 02:50:09,279
everybody wasn't

3831
02:50:09,279 --> 02:50:10,880
you know right there prepared to make

3832
02:50:10,880 --> 02:50:14,160
all these decisions so it kind of got

3833
02:50:14,160 --> 02:50:16,160
set there you know like that and i i'm

3834
02:50:16,160 --> 02:50:17,680
glad that you you know you're bringing

3835
02:50:17,680 --> 02:50:19,840
it back up it's not that it's just you

3836
02:50:19,840 --> 02:50:21,120
know this is just this is another

3837
02:50:21,120 --> 02:50:23,439
initiative and what i don't want to do

3838
02:50:23,439 --> 02:50:24,640
just putting them down it's going to

3839
02:50:24,640 --> 02:50:26,000
have a season one of the things that i

3840
02:50:26,000 --> 02:50:28,319
was talking about with john and uh we

3841
02:50:28,319 --> 02:50:29,359
remember

3842
02:50:29,359 --> 02:50:31,279
kelly bonnett was uh you know are we

3843
02:50:31,279 --> 02:50:33,760
doing any data collection pre-post and

3844
02:50:33,760 --> 02:50:35,200
then how that's going to work you know

3845
02:50:35,200 --> 02:50:36,399
we're putting up a

3846
02:50:36,399 --> 02:50:38,880
speed camera that has the flashing to

3847
02:50:38,880 --> 02:50:40,720
say okay everybody was going 42 and then

3848
02:50:40,720 --> 02:50:43,279
we put this down and it didn't go down

3849
02:50:43,279 --> 02:50:45,120
but then you know on top of that you

3850
02:50:45,120 --> 02:50:47,200
know when talking with kristen and

3851
02:50:47,200 --> 02:50:48,720
development and some other people from

3852
02:50:48,720 --> 02:50:50,880
the engineering side and it actually was

3853
02:50:50,880 --> 02:50:53,200
in the paper i believe with tom carey is

3854
02:50:53,200 --> 02:50:56,000
that there's a whole other aspect of you

3855
02:50:56,000 --> 02:50:57,840
know complete streets and trying to make

3856
02:50:57,840 --> 02:50:59,760
a street feel narrower and trying to do

3857
02:50:59,760 --> 02:51:02,080
it naturally

3858
02:51:02,080 --> 02:51:04,560
instead of artificial

3859
02:51:04,560 --> 02:51:06,560
and you know that's something that's

3860
02:51:06,560 --> 02:51:08,240
another thing that you know we're really

3861
02:51:08,240 --> 02:51:10,160
not quite there yet one of the things i

3862
02:51:10,160 --> 02:51:12,080
didn't say what we're doing is um on

3863
02:51:12,080 --> 02:51:13,840
console we're going to be putting in i

3864
02:51:13,840 --> 02:51:15,760
call them blaze sticks i don't know what

3865
02:51:15,760 --> 02:51:18,399
the post reflectors we're going to be

3866
02:51:18,399 --> 02:51:20,720
trying those which is you know you're

3867
02:51:20,720 --> 02:51:22,800
used to a very bright stop sign and the

3868
02:51:22,800 --> 02:51:24,560
new thing is you put on a reflector on

3869
02:51:24,560 --> 02:51:25,520
the post

3870
02:51:25,520 --> 02:51:27,760
and when you see that when you drive

3871
02:51:27,760 --> 02:51:29,920
console after those are in they're going

3872
02:51:29,920 --> 02:51:31,760
to get your attention and they are a

3873
02:51:31,760 --> 02:51:33,600
fraction of the cause

3874
02:51:33,600 --> 02:51:35,680
yeah but we were just trying to because

3875
02:51:35,680 --> 02:51:37,279
we talked about it you know those signs

3876
02:51:37,279 --> 02:51:38,960
are expensive how can we do things you

3877
02:51:38,960 --> 02:51:40,560
know i know that we wanted to do trees

3878
02:51:40,560 --> 02:51:42,880
maybe some places uh we have that study

3879
02:51:42,880 --> 02:51:44,479
going on but i mean this can be

3880
02:51:44,479 --> 02:51:46,640
something but i guess my my issue is

3881
02:51:46,640 --> 02:51:48,960
that if we find

3882
02:51:48,960 --> 02:51:51,680
that the speed pump worked

3883
02:51:51,680 --> 02:51:54,319
then is the next step that we're going

3884
02:51:54,319 --> 02:51:55,760
permanent

3885
02:51:55,760 --> 02:51:57,840
you know is is that it or is this a

3886
02:51:57,840 --> 02:51:59,279
temper you know because we don't have

3887
02:51:59,279 --> 02:52:01,120
permanent permanent speed humps in the

3888
02:52:01,120 --> 02:52:02,560
northeast and even

3889
02:52:02,560 --> 02:52:03,920
you don't see a lot of them there are

3890
02:52:03,920 --> 02:52:06,399
locations i know of in the area county

3891
02:52:06,399 --> 02:52:08,880
specifically but you know then you get

3892
02:52:08,880 --> 02:52:12,960
to that next level so what is the objective we're trying to

3893
02:52:12,960 --> 02:52:14,720
achieve and is this the right tool to do

3894
02:52:14,720 --> 02:52:17,200
it and it takes a lot of thought and i

3895
02:52:17,200 --> 02:52:18,479
guess we haven't had a lot of time to

3896
02:52:18,479 --> 02:52:20,160
put all that thought into it so which is

3897
02:52:20,160 --> 02:52:21,200
why it got

3898
02:52:21,200 --> 02:52:23,279
kind of but we have the list we did put

3899
02:52:23,279 --> 02:52:25,120
a lot more effort into it since you

3900
02:52:25,120 --> 02:52:27,359
you've asked about us to pick this up um

3901
02:52:27,359 --> 02:52:29,359
i think that rochester's done a lot of

3902
02:52:29,359 --> 02:52:31,600
great work to kind of just give us a

3903
02:52:31,600 --> 02:52:32,560
template

3904
02:52:32,560 --> 02:52:34,720
um so i think we think we could probably

3905
02:52:34,720 --> 02:52:36,640
sit down and come up with some areas and

3906
02:52:36,640 --> 02:52:39,040
get some things ordered and we can try

3907
02:52:39,040 --> 02:52:40,800
it's just that

3908
02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:41,920
i just want to make sure that we're

3909
02:52:41,920 --> 02:52:43,600
always using these things as tools and

3910
02:52:43,600 --> 02:52:44,800
we know what we're trying to get out of

3911
02:52:44,800 --> 02:52:46,960
the tools so with that the as just the

3912
02:52:46,960 --> 02:52:48,880
rough number from last year the price

3913
02:52:48,880 --> 02:52:51,040
was around five thousand dollars for for

3914
02:52:51,040 --> 02:52:51,920
one

3915
02:52:51,920 --> 02:52:56,399
um from one we get four and then we didn't factor in the

3916
02:52:56,399 --> 02:52:59,600
cost for the signage around it and for

3917
02:52:59,600 --> 02:53:01,439
the bureau to put them install them and

3918
02:53:01,439 --> 02:53:03,600
remove them in storage so and then when

3919
02:53:03,600 --> 02:53:05,200
you go to order them we have to know

3920
02:53:05,200 --> 02:53:06,640
where they're going first because each

3921
02:53:06,640 --> 02:53:08,840
one is printed with different arrows and

3922
02:53:08,840 --> 02:53:11,920
different um emblems so

3923
02:53:11,920 --> 02:53:13,200
first would be to determine where

3924
02:53:13,200 --> 02:53:15,200
they're going and then we order them and

3925
02:53:15,200 --> 02:53:16,640
then we actually have to talk to the

3926
02:53:16,640 --> 02:53:21,910
guru about insulation and storage

3927
02:53:21,920 --> 02:53:23,200
and the other thing you guys briefly

3928
02:53:23,200 --> 02:53:25,040
touched on but it comes up a lot in my

3929
02:53:25,040 --> 02:53:27,279
circles of conversations is they call it

3930
02:53:27,279 --> 02:53:28,720
the three e's

3931
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:30,880
and it's education enforcement and

3932
02:53:30,880 --> 02:53:32,080
engineering

3933
02:53:32,080 --> 02:53:34,800
and you know education is hard because

3934
02:53:34,800 --> 02:53:36,560
you're putting that on the person

3935
02:53:36,560 --> 02:53:38,080
and enforcement is difficult because

3936
02:53:38,080 --> 02:53:40,080
you're putting it on the police and the

3937
02:53:40,080 --> 02:53:42,080
police are you know already time

3938
02:53:42,080 --> 02:53:44,319
strapped so then naturally everybody

3939
02:53:44,319 --> 02:53:46,160
goes to engineering

3940
02:53:46,160 --> 02:53:48,640
you know and sometimes though you cannot

3941
02:53:48,640 --> 02:53:50,960
engineer things you know there has to be

3942
02:53:50,960 --> 02:53:52,640
you have to use the enforcement you have

3943
02:53:52,640 --> 02:53:55,279
to use the education you cannot engineer

3944
02:53:55,279 --> 02:53:56,720
someone on their phone you cannot

3945
02:53:56,720 --> 02:53:58,880
engineer speeding necessarily all the

3946
02:53:58,880 --> 02:53:59,680
time

3947
02:53:59,680 --> 02:54:01,760
so i think we really if we can go this

3948
02:54:01,760 --> 02:54:03,520
route but i think those other two e's we

3949
02:54:03,520 --> 02:54:07,600
always say we really have to to work

3950
02:54:07,600 --> 02:54:10,000
so can we like come back

3951
02:54:10,000 --> 02:54:11,439
uh in

3952
02:54:11,439 --> 02:54:13,920
the next session or two with a location

3953
02:54:13,920 --> 02:54:16,960
or a plan when we have something or how

3954
02:54:16,960 --> 02:54:19,279
we will we will pick it up i just don't

3955
02:54:19,279 --> 02:54:21,040
know what yeah that's i would like to

3956
02:54:21,040 --> 02:54:23,600
see does anybody have any preferences

3957
02:54:23,600 --> 02:54:24,640
that's true

3958
02:54:24,640 --> 02:54:26,560
so i think like the mayor suggested

3959
02:54:26,560 --> 02:54:29,279
earlier it'll be a big plan with the

3960
02:54:29,279 --> 02:54:32,000
speed limit and the new signs and uh

3961
02:54:32,000 --> 02:54:34,640
maybe a few more um

3962
02:54:34,640 --> 02:54:37,040
lit stop signs and maybe

3963
02:54:37,040 --> 02:54:37,920
you know

3964
02:54:37,920 --> 02:54:43,110
that all entailed in the one yeah

3965
02:54:43,120 --> 02:54:44,960
i would like to know whether by the time

3966
02:54:44,960 --> 02:54:48,080
i'm 70 years old instead of 63 we might

3967
02:54:48,080 --> 02:54:49,920
be able to actually do something in the

3968
02:54:49,920 --> 02:54:52,240
city of schenectady around reducing the

3969
02:54:52,240 --> 02:54:54,399
speed infractions um because i think

3970
02:54:54,399 --> 02:54:57,120
that's the issue that i'm feeling i mean

3971
02:54:57,120 --> 02:54:58,720
this has been how many years we've been

3972
02:54:58,720 --> 02:55:01,040
talking about the speed bumps

3973
02:55:01,040 --> 02:55:03,279
and you know

3974
02:55:03,279 --> 02:55:06,800
i don't know it's very frustrating um

3975
02:55:06,800 --> 02:55:08,479
because i think i hear what you're

3976
02:55:08,479 --> 02:55:09,439
saying

3977
02:55:09,439 --> 02:55:12,240
but um you know i think we have to start

3978
02:55:12,240 --> 02:55:15,200
to take some action somehow

3979
02:55:15,200 --> 02:55:17,040
chris where is the

3980
02:55:17,040 --> 02:55:18,560
process for

3981
02:55:18,560 --> 02:55:20,080
uh redoing

3982
02:55:20,080 --> 02:55:23,600
uh brandywine avenue from state to 890

3983
02:55:23,600 --> 02:55:25,760
that we've rejected that yep it's out to

3984
02:55:25,760 --> 02:55:29,040
bid right now so back out to bit that

3985
02:55:29,040 --> 02:55:32,080
still is the highest incident area for

3986
02:55:32,080 --> 02:55:35,279
auto pedestrian events uh

3987
02:55:35,279 --> 02:55:37,600
just outright traffic accidents

3988
02:55:37,600 --> 02:55:40,479
so it's unfortunate the numbers came in

3989
02:55:40,479 --> 02:55:41,760
high

3990
02:55:41,760 --> 02:55:42,960
we're going to have to do something

3991
02:55:42,960 --> 02:55:45,520
there if

3992
02:55:45,520 --> 02:55:47,600
the president if the bids come in high

3993
02:55:47,600 --> 02:55:48,880
again

3994
02:55:48,880 --> 02:55:51,120
who

3995
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:52,720
they come back to the council look to

3996
02:55:52,720 --> 02:55:55,040
put some more money on the table so that

3997
02:55:55,040 --> 02:55:59,760
we could get that uh done the series of

3998
02:55:59,760 --> 02:56:01,760
intersections there because that is

3999
02:56:01,760 --> 02:56:05,359
going to pay off uh just our overall

4000
02:56:05,359 --> 02:56:07,279
number of events

4001
02:56:07,279 --> 02:56:09,359
i agree with that that is our

4002
02:56:09,359 --> 02:56:11,040
two busiest blocks

4003
02:56:11,040 --> 02:56:15,600
including downtown brandywine those two blocks are significant

4004
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:17,840
um

4005
02:56:17,840 --> 02:56:19,680
oh another thing i was going to say even

4006
02:56:19,680 --> 02:56:21,439
john we talked about it how many years

4007
02:56:21,439 --> 02:56:23,359
ago was it five years those little

4008
02:56:23,359 --> 02:56:25,760
yellow signs those notification signs

4009
02:56:25,760 --> 02:56:27,120
you know those are something that came

4010
02:56:27,120 --> 02:56:29,359
out that state yes

4011
02:56:29,359 --> 02:56:30,640
you know i would love to see those

4012
02:56:30,640 --> 02:56:32,399
affected if you put them on randolph and

4013
02:56:32,399 --> 02:56:34,560
we put them on rose and these little you

4014
02:56:34,560 --> 02:56:36,640
know like they say cross traffic doesn't

4015
02:56:36,640 --> 02:56:38,960
stop this you know and those those are

4016
02:56:38,960 --> 02:56:41,040
the things that you know i think if we

4017
02:56:41,040 --> 02:56:42,640
always tally i mean there has been

4018
02:56:42,640 --> 02:56:44,800
improvements made but these are the

4019
02:56:44,800 --> 02:56:46,399
these are necks i just i'd like to know

4020
02:56:46,399 --> 02:56:47,680
before we put them down i guess we'll

4021
02:56:47,680 --> 02:56:49,600
have to work internally

4022
02:56:49,600 --> 02:56:51,760
then what is it a permanent are we going

4023
02:56:51,760 --> 02:56:53,520
to start seeing these and then we pick

4024
02:56:53,520 --> 02:56:55,520
them up in the wintertime or do we make

4025
02:56:55,520 --> 02:56:57,439
them permanent i just and i always look

4026
02:56:57,439 --> 02:56:58,800
around because i've driven a lot of

4027
02:56:58,800 --> 02:57:01,760
municipalities you just don't see

4028
02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:05,120
speed bumps in a lot of municipalities

4029
02:57:05,120 --> 02:57:08,080
in that kind of way to address the issue

4030
02:57:08,080 --> 02:57:09,200
so

4031
02:57:09,200 --> 02:57:10,880
but it's not to say that we can't set a

4032
02:57:10,880 --> 02:57:12,640
trend

4033
02:57:12,640 --> 02:57:14,560
so can i be clear so mayor are you

4034
02:57:14,560 --> 02:57:16,000
saying to put those on brandywine

4035
02:57:16,000 --> 02:57:17,120
because i thought brandon wine was a

4036
02:57:17,120 --> 02:57:19,439
primary student no no no no all right

4037
02:57:19,439 --> 02:57:24,150
just want to be clear

4038
02:57:24,160 --> 02:57:25,040
that

4039
02:57:25,040 --> 02:57:27,520
two blocks or a little over two blocks

4040
02:57:27,520 --> 02:57:30,080
and some of the adjacent streets

4041
02:57:30,080 --> 02:57:32,479
uh and just unfortunately the bid

4042
02:57:32,479 --> 02:57:35,040
came back in high so chris has gone back

4043
02:57:35,040 --> 02:57:39,279
out but that'll be a rebuilding of those

4044
02:57:39,279 --> 02:57:41,600
in two blocks

4045
02:57:41,600 --> 02:57:43,279
with again some of the traffic control

4046
02:57:43,279 --> 02:57:45,990
devices

4047
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:47,200
well um

4048
02:57:47,200 --> 02:57:49,279
to uh to miss patrick's point i'd like

4049
02:57:49,279 --> 02:57:50,560
to see us do something as well we

4050
02:57:50,560 --> 02:57:51,760
haven't been kicking this around for a

4051
02:57:51,760 --> 02:57:54,800
very long time so i would like to

4052
02:57:54,800 --> 02:57:56,319
see something in a couple of see if we

4053
02:57:56,319 --> 02:57:57,520
could just

4054
02:57:57,520 --> 02:57:59,760
get this ball rolling sure

4055
02:57:59,760 --> 02:58:01,920
not a problem but not we don't want the

4056
02:58:01,920 --> 02:58:06,070
ball rolling too fast

4057
02:58:06,080 --> 02:58:08,399
i mean i think we also need to recommend

4058
02:58:08,399 --> 02:58:09,840
does we need a recommendation about

4059
02:58:09,840 --> 02:58:11,520
whether in fact that is the smartest

4060
02:58:11,520 --> 02:58:13,680
thing the speedoms might not be the

4061
02:58:13,680 --> 02:58:16,560
solution so so um

4062
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:19,520
you know i guess when you come back

4063
02:58:19,520 --> 02:58:21,520
with that as well yeah you know we're

4064
02:58:21,520 --> 02:58:22,960
talking about configurations and making

4065
02:58:22,960 --> 02:58:24,160
sure they don't block drainage you're

4066
02:58:24,160 --> 02:58:25,520
not leaving gaps you know how if you go

4067
02:58:25,520 --> 02:58:27,040
to a parking lot and you see that gap in

4068
02:58:27,040 --> 02:58:30,240
the middle really shoots the gaps

4069
02:58:30,240 --> 02:58:31,600
you know we were talking about that you

4070
02:58:31,600 --> 02:58:33,200
know because the thought was okay can we

4071
02:58:33,200 --> 02:58:35,200
leave a gap for a fire truck it's like

4072
02:58:35,200 --> 02:58:37,920
leave the gap for a fire truck yeah

4073
02:58:37,920 --> 02:58:40,160
so there is some discussion and i guess

4074
02:58:40,160 --> 02:58:41,680
that we have a good template here city

4075
02:58:41,680 --> 02:58:44,000
of rochester clearly is putting them in

4076
02:58:44,000 --> 02:58:45,279
maybe i have to do a tour out to

4077
02:58:45,279 --> 02:58:47,200
rochester and meet with them and see

4078
02:58:47,200 --> 02:58:50,230
maybe

4079
02:58:50,240 --> 02:58:52,160
but yeah i can give you something what i

4080
02:58:52,160 --> 02:58:54,080
can do is do is take a map highlight

4081
02:58:54,080 --> 02:58:55,439
arrow the streets that kind of what

4082
02:58:55,439 --> 02:58:56,960
we're saying don't meet the criteria the

4083
02:58:56,960 --> 02:58:58,880
right way and then what areas would meet

4084
02:58:58,880 --> 02:59:00,399
the criteria based off of the

4085
02:59:00,399 --> 02:59:01,920
information that you're still collecting

4086
02:59:01,920 --> 02:59:03,520
and we'll show some other areas and in

4087
02:59:03,520 --> 02:59:05,359
the meantime uh

4088
02:59:05,359 --> 02:59:08,720
aca whipple and and anthony we can order

4089
02:59:08,720 --> 02:59:10,319
you know i mean they're set with we can

4090
02:59:10,319 --> 02:59:12,560
get them there this section and at least

4091
02:59:12,560 --> 02:59:13,439
get them here because i don't know what

4092
02:59:13,439 --> 02:59:14,960
the lead time on something that would be

4093
02:59:14,960 --> 02:59:16,479
but make sure we get it because

4094
02:59:16,479 --> 02:59:18,160
similarly to the signs even though we're

4095
02:59:18,160 --> 02:59:20,399
going to say if the governor makes it 25

4096
02:59:20,399 --> 02:59:22,319
tomorrow it's going to take john four

4097
02:59:22,319 --> 02:59:24,080
months to get the signs here and we

4098
02:59:24,080 --> 02:59:27,120
can't do both i think that would

4099
02:59:27,120 --> 02:59:29,510
more be

4100
02:59:29,520 --> 02:59:31,439
okay well then i will come back in two

4101
02:59:31,439 --> 02:59:35,670
weeks with more of a plan

4102
02:59:35,680 --> 02:59:37,120
uh any other items that fall public

4103
02:59:37,120 --> 02:59:38,399
safety

4104
02:59:38,399 --> 02:59:48,950
just making sure this time

4105
02:59:48,960 --> 02:59:51,200
thank you um i'd like to call the order

4106
02:59:51,200 --> 02:59:54,319
uh to the development planning and mr

4107
02:59:54,319 --> 02:59:56,560
if you don't mind i wanted to move up um

4108
02:59:56,560 --> 02:59:58,240
one of the items on the agenda that was

4109
02:59:58,240 --> 02:59:59,920
people who have been sitting quite some

4110
02:59:59,920 --> 03:00:00,800
time

4111
03:00:00,800 --> 03:00:02,800
so i wanted to move item number five to

4112
03:00:02,800 --> 03:00:05,120
the top of your line

4113
03:00:05,120 --> 03:00:05,920
okay

4114
03:00:05,920 --> 03:00:06,800
all right

4115
03:00:06,800 --> 03:00:08,880
so we're gonna do um item number five

4116
03:00:08,880 --> 03:00:10,640
first amendment to the cdbg contract of

4117
03:00:10,640 --> 03:00:17,910
nurturing craigslist mystia

4118
03:00:17,920 --> 03:00:21,040
good evening everyone um so this is just

4119
03:00:21,040 --> 03:00:23,439
bringing back the request

4120
03:00:23,439 --> 03:00:25,439
proposed two weeks ago maricopa credit

4121
03:00:25,439 --> 03:00:26,560
street

4122
03:00:26,560 --> 03:00:29,600
former carver center we have

4123
03:00:29,600 --> 03:00:33,040
the balance of 103 685 that we're

4124
03:00:33,040 --> 03:00:34,319
looking to

4125
03:00:34,319 --> 03:00:37,279
extend the period of performance

4126
03:00:37,279 --> 03:00:39,520
miracle crack street until december 31st

4127
03:00:39,520 --> 03:00:41,520
of this year and then the scope of work

4128
03:00:41,520 --> 03:00:44,640
for the remaining unexpected balance

4129
03:00:44,640 --> 03:00:47,279
um there was some questions for certain

4130
03:00:47,279 --> 03:00:49,600
materials that were provided

4131
03:00:49,600 --> 03:00:51,439
to the council and i believe the council

4132
03:00:51,439 --> 03:00:53,279
has recommendations as well

4133
03:00:53,279 --> 03:00:55,439
uh based on this so that's why we're

4134
03:00:55,439 --> 03:00:56,720
here

4135
03:00:56,720 --> 03:00:58,319
we do have uh

4136
03:00:58,319 --> 03:00:59,920
ray's this

4137
03:00:59,920 --> 03:01:01,680
sheila rivera here as well if there's

4138
03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:03,439
questions

4139
03:01:03,439 --> 03:01:05,200
so the last time this came before the

4140
03:01:05,200 --> 03:01:06,960
council there was an item in there that

4141
03:01:06,960 --> 03:01:08,640
was asking for a consultant there was a

4142
03:01:08,640 --> 03:01:10,640
lot of discussion around that and

4143
03:01:10,640 --> 03:01:12,880
frankly not the support for it

4144
03:01:12,880 --> 03:01:16,960
there was the impression that the um

4145
03:01:16,960 --> 03:01:18,000
that

4146
03:01:18,000 --> 03:01:20,000
the duties that were written into that

4147
03:01:20,000 --> 03:01:21,359
particular one were things that were

4148
03:01:21,359 --> 03:01:23,040
being covered by cap

4149
03:01:23,040 --> 03:01:26,560
and so um the budget has been meant to

4150
03:01:26,560 --> 03:01:27,600
include

4151
03:01:27,600 --> 03:01:28,479
um

4152
03:01:28,479 --> 03:01:30,800
just all services under tap as they have

4153
03:01:30,800 --> 03:01:31,920
put forward

4154
03:01:31,920 --> 03:01:32,960
and

4155
03:01:32,960 --> 03:01:35,200
not nothing um elsa well there has been

4156
03:01:35,200 --> 03:01:38,240
a change in terms of um

4157
03:01:38,240 --> 03:01:40,800
there was a rainy like 20

4158
03:01:40,800 --> 03:01:42,880
2000 something um

4159
03:01:42,880 --> 03:01:45,120
which is put into the summer landscaping

4160
03:01:45,120 --> 03:01:47,920
so this is all the ring funds that out

4161
03:01:47,920 --> 03:01:50,319
of the 150 i believe was the starting

4162
03:01:50,319 --> 03:01:52,160
the remaining funds that mayor khan

4163
03:01:52,160 --> 03:01:54,319
texas has right this is the remaining

4164
03:01:54,319 --> 03:01:59,269
yes that's what's remaining

4165
03:01:59,279 --> 03:02:14,550
other questions

4166
03:02:14,560 --> 03:02:16,160
this weekend and definitely the work

4167
03:02:16,160 --> 03:02:17,680
that they've made over the last few

4168
03:02:17,680 --> 03:02:20,560
months has uh

4169
03:02:20,560 --> 03:02:23,200
it deserves some faults so definitely

4170
03:02:23,200 --> 03:02:24,640
things well deserved

4171
03:02:24,640 --> 03:02:26,560
i think at this point i'm excited as a

4172
03:02:26,560 --> 03:02:28,319
new consumer to see this project

4173
03:02:28,319 --> 03:02:30,399
continuing forward although it wasn't

4174
03:02:30,399 --> 03:02:33,680
conducted in the manner that he intended

4175
03:02:33,680 --> 03:02:36,160
still i think seeing this project move

4176
03:02:36,160 --> 03:02:38,080
forward for the benefit of that specific

4177
03:02:38,080 --> 03:02:40,319
area but also for the city as a whole i

4178
03:02:40,319 --> 03:02:42,479
think is what we need to keep our focus

4179
03:02:42,479 --> 03:02:44,080
on um so i just want to make sure it

4180
03:02:44,080 --> 03:02:45,760
does

4181
03:02:45,760 --> 03:02:48,560
thanks for stopping by i appreciate that

4182
03:02:48,560 --> 03:02:50,560
did you have questions anyway no

4183
03:02:50,560 --> 03:02:51,520
questions

4184
03:02:51,520 --> 03:02:52,800
so

4185
03:02:52,800 --> 03:02:54,640
did you let's have a second one to me

4186
03:02:54,640 --> 03:02:55,760
because

4187
03:02:55,760 --> 03:02:57,920
uh no i just wanted to

4188
03:02:57,920 --> 03:02:59,520
come up here because he wanted to make a

4189
03:02:59,520 --> 03:03:00,640
statement if you guys don't have any

4190
03:03:00,640 --> 03:03:02,479
questions um

4191
03:03:02,479 --> 03:03:04,240
you know uh you guys requested more

4192
03:03:04,240 --> 03:03:06,479
information we provided it and i hope

4193
03:03:06,479 --> 03:03:09,760
that it's you know pretty clear on

4194
03:03:09,760 --> 03:03:11,439
um

4195
03:03:11,439 --> 03:03:13,120
you know this position is important i

4196
03:03:13,120 --> 03:03:14,240
know that

4197
03:03:14,240 --> 03:03:15,920
all the other line items were pretty

4198
03:03:15,920 --> 03:03:17,840
clear you guys seemed fine with it

4199
03:03:17,840 --> 03:03:19,200
except for the

4200
03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:22,319
uh site and manager position and uh like

4201
03:03:22,319 --> 03:03:24,240
i said we provide more information

4202
03:03:24,240 --> 03:03:26,560
as requested and

4203
03:03:26,560 --> 03:03:28,000
yeah just looking forward to more

4204
03:03:28,000 --> 03:03:31,190
support on this

4205
03:03:31,200 --> 03:03:36,389
so you have the budget before you so uh

4206
03:03:36,399 --> 03:03:37,920
so this is just to extend what we're

4207
03:03:37,920 --> 03:03:40,880
doing and now it's 103 000.

4208
03:03:40,880 --> 03:03:42,560
this is the only thing this is the this

4209
03:03:42,560 --> 03:03:44,640
is the final the final thing is that it

4210
03:03:44,640 --> 03:03:47,279
seems like what the council

4211
03:03:47,279 --> 03:03:50,560
is proposing or the cpd committee is

4212
03:03:50,560 --> 03:03:52,880
to from what marian said is to fund the

4213
03:03:52,880 --> 03:03:54,960
full tax proposal but not the board

4214
03:03:54,960 --> 03:03:56,960
consultant which was previously right

4215
03:03:56,960 --> 03:03:59,279
that's i just want to purpose

4216
03:03:59,279 --> 03:04:02,319
yep so i have no question

4217
03:04:02,319 --> 03:04:03,600
so moved

4218
03:04:03,600 --> 03:04:09,190
second i was in favor

4219
03:04:09,200 --> 03:04:10,720
thank you

4220
03:04:10,720 --> 03:04:13,279
all right so um

4221
03:04:13,279 --> 03:04:15,200
so the first time on the agenda the

4222
03:04:15,200 --> 03:04:17,439
discussion of the city's annual mf4

4223
03:04:17,439 --> 03:04:24,150
report for salon

4224
03:04:24,160 --> 03:04:25,920
hello okay

4225
03:04:25,920 --> 03:04:27,120
so

4226
03:04:27,120 --> 03:04:30,479
for law every year we are required

4227
03:04:30,479 --> 03:04:32,720
by the state to put together our annual

4228
03:04:32,720 --> 03:04:35,600
ms4 report which is for

4229
03:04:35,600 --> 03:04:39,279
stormwater uh in the city of schenectady

4230
03:04:39,279 --> 03:04:41,600
the city no longer has a storm water

4231
03:04:41,600 --> 03:04:43,439
officer that position

4232
03:04:43,439 --> 03:04:46,080
is open so we have been contracting with

4233
03:04:46,080 --> 03:04:47,439
ct mail

4234
03:04:47,439 --> 03:04:49,279
a local engineering firm

4235
03:04:49,279 --> 03:04:51,760
who specializes in things like this

4236
03:04:51,760 --> 03:04:55,760
they help us assist with this document

4237
03:04:55,760 --> 03:04:57,600
so what we do is we just talk about how

4238
03:04:57,600 --> 03:04:59,840
we are making people wear

4239
03:04:59,840 --> 03:05:01,920
storm water and how storm water affects

4240
03:05:01,920 --> 03:05:06,000
the rivers and um kind of inspecting it

4241
03:05:06,000 --> 03:05:07,600
once a year we have to go inspect make

4242
03:05:07,600 --> 03:05:10,240
sure on a dry day that there's no runoff

4243
03:05:10,240 --> 03:05:12,479
or ethanol everyone's coming out of the

4244
03:05:12,479 --> 03:05:13,680
pipes

4245
03:05:13,680 --> 03:05:16,800
the big thing of note this year is

4246
03:05:16,800 --> 03:05:18,960
what we did was uh i wanted to find a

4247
03:05:18,960 --> 03:05:21,520
page for you i apologize but what we had

4248
03:05:21,520 --> 03:05:23,359
was we had a thorough review done of all

4249
03:05:23,359 --> 03:05:25,840
of our outfalls and after that review

4250
03:05:25,840 --> 03:05:28,319
what we found was that we were double

4251
03:05:28,319 --> 03:05:31,200
counting a lot of outfalls in a way that

4252
03:05:31,200 --> 03:05:33,279
we were able to reduce

4253
03:05:33,279 --> 03:05:37,120
and so that was a a nice benefit to what

4254
03:05:37,120 --> 03:05:39,359
we were able to do i'm just looking for

4255
03:05:39,359 --> 03:05:40,720
a page that i don't have right in front

4256
03:05:40,720 --> 03:05:42,160
of me so what it is is that if you're

4257
03:05:42,160 --> 03:05:44,000
familiar with so uh

4258
03:05:44,000 --> 03:05:46,399
college creed oh here it is uh out falls

4259
03:05:46,399 --> 03:05:50,080
map 29 so three on the third page

4260
03:05:50,080 --> 03:05:50,800
so

4261
03:05:50,800 --> 03:05:52,960
what we were doing is we were counting

4262
03:05:52,960 --> 03:05:56,640
every overt originally in college creek

4263
03:05:56,640 --> 03:05:59,760
and essentially it's actually one so you

4264
03:05:59,760 --> 03:06:01,600
would come out you have one out under

4265
03:06:01,600 --> 03:06:03,680
the uh i believe it's west alley where

4266
03:06:03,680 --> 03:06:06,000
it enters the stock uh to the gt plot

4267
03:06:06,000 --> 03:06:09,040
that is an outflow as it goes under avon

4268
03:06:09,040 --> 03:06:10,720
as it goes under the road those are not

4269
03:06:10,720 --> 03:06:12,399
alcohols those are cold

4270
03:06:12,399 --> 03:06:14,720
so that originally was mapped not by

4271
03:06:14,720 --> 03:06:17,279
myself but by predecessor as an outfall

4272
03:06:17,279 --> 03:06:18,960
so we eliminated those so we were able

4273
03:06:18,960 --> 03:06:23,040
to go from 54 to 29 and the 29 allows us

4274
03:06:23,040 --> 03:06:25,040
now to just be more efficient most of

4275
03:06:25,040 --> 03:06:26,880
these are along the river we have you

4276
03:06:26,880 --> 03:06:28,399
know several along the river the biggest

4277
03:06:28,399 --> 03:06:31,120
being college creek um and we go down

4278
03:06:31,120 --> 03:06:33,920
and we'll be able to inspect those um so

4279
03:06:33,920 --> 03:06:36,560
you use the facebook page uh just right

4280
03:06:36,560 --> 03:06:39,680
there for 29. so you see this year we

4281
03:06:39,680 --> 03:06:41,760
number of approximate about falls map we

4282
03:06:41,760 --> 03:06:42,880
mapped all of them this year because

4283
03:06:42,880 --> 03:06:44,960
this was our first year doing it

4284
03:06:44,960 --> 03:06:45,760
um

4285
03:06:45,760 --> 03:06:47,520
so

4286
03:06:47,520 --> 03:06:51,990
yeah right one more

4287
03:06:52,000 --> 03:06:54,000
yeah yeah exactly oh right there i'm

4288
03:06:54,000 --> 03:06:55,680
sorry it's on the back the 29 right

4289
03:06:55,680 --> 03:07:00,800
there so it's on the back page so that is one thing one area i will uh

4290
03:07:00,800 --> 03:07:03,040
admit that we need to improve and as

4291
03:07:03,040 --> 03:07:05,600
with full disclosure is ct mail is going

4292
03:07:05,600 --> 03:07:07,920
to do some training for us

4293
03:07:07,920 --> 03:07:10,000
part of the requirement is that our ogs

4294
03:07:10,000 --> 03:07:12,399
staff receive some training about how to

4295
03:07:12,399 --> 03:07:14,800
spot illicit discharges just to be aware

4296
03:07:14,800 --> 03:07:17,200
of things like that um i mean we were

4297
03:07:17,200 --> 03:07:19,279
doing them and then up to cover we kind

4298
03:07:19,279 --> 03:07:20,720
of stopped any kind of in-person

4299
03:07:20,720 --> 03:07:22,720
training virtual training for our guys

4300
03:07:22,720 --> 03:07:24,560
is very difficult because you know it's

4301
03:07:24,560 --> 03:07:27,279
a it's more of a garage in the classroom

4302
03:07:27,279 --> 03:07:29,040
but now that everything has calmed down

4303
03:07:29,040 --> 03:07:30,800
we are looking to have ct mail go out

4304
03:07:30,800 --> 03:07:33,600
and do some focus training for our water

4305
03:07:33,600 --> 03:07:35,439
and sewer departments even possibly our

4306
03:07:35,439 --> 03:07:36,800
garbage departments because as we were

4307
03:07:36,800 --> 03:07:38,560
talking about previously uh you know

4308
03:07:38,560 --> 03:07:40,640
they're out they're out and about and to

4309
03:07:40,640 --> 03:07:42,960
be able to spot things

4310
03:07:42,960 --> 03:07:44,560
all right um so that's what we really

4311
03:07:44,560 --> 03:07:46,000
want to do is make sure people are able

4312
03:07:46,000 --> 03:07:48,240
to to spot things because they are the

4313
03:07:48,240 --> 03:07:50,479
kind of the eyes on the street i am more

4314
03:07:50,479 --> 03:07:52,720
or less always in city hall so what

4315
03:07:52,720 --> 03:07:54,960
we're going to do is um you know if you

4316
03:07:54,960 --> 03:07:58,479
have any questions you can ask it's a pretty generic

4317
03:07:58,479 --> 03:08:01,359
boring report but we do take it uh we

4318
03:08:01,359 --> 03:08:02,640
put it out and the public can see it

4319
03:08:02,640 --> 03:08:04,960
today then we put it on the website and

4320
03:08:04,960 --> 03:08:07,439
then it's always on the website 365 days

4321
03:08:07,439 --> 03:08:09,520
because that's a requirement as well and

4322
03:08:09,520 --> 03:08:10,960
we're going to try to you know like i

4323
03:08:10,960 --> 03:08:13,040
said up our training up some of it we

4324
03:08:13,040 --> 03:08:14,479
used to do a table at the farmer's

4325
03:08:14,479 --> 03:08:16,000
market we're probably going to bring

4326
03:08:16,000 --> 03:08:17,680
that back where we have a little display

4327
03:08:17,680 --> 03:08:19,520
we work with the county you know do you

4328
03:08:19,520 --> 03:08:20,880
know discharge

4329
03:08:20,880 --> 03:08:24,080
a little public uh input like that um so

4330
03:08:24,080 --> 03:08:25,439
those are the couple of things that we

4331
03:08:25,439 --> 03:08:27,200
want to do mostly involves

4332
03:08:27,200 --> 03:08:29,439
uh training in public and for the last

4333
03:08:29,439 --> 03:08:30,960
couple of years training in public kind

4334
03:08:30,960 --> 03:08:33,040
of work low but we're going to bring it

4335
03:08:33,040 --> 03:08:34,960
back up

4336
03:08:34,960 --> 03:08:36,240
mr bear

4337
03:08:36,240 --> 03:08:38,399
because i noticed one

4338
03:08:38,399 --> 03:08:40,399
small error i didn't pick up when i

4339
03:08:40,399 --> 03:08:43,279
signed it okay is the county's address

4340
03:08:43,279 --> 03:08:45,680
is listed as 107 in that street it's

4341
03:08:45,680 --> 03:08:48,720
actually 107. not terrace okay i will

4342
03:08:48,720 --> 03:08:51,120
pick the what page do you want

4343
03:08:51,120 --> 03:08:53,120
uh page three

4344
03:08:53,120 --> 03:08:55,760
of the report page

4345
03:08:55,760 --> 03:08:57,680
37 of the

4346
03:08:57,680 --> 03:09:00,830
console pack

4347
03:09:00,840 --> 03:09:04,319
okay right i will make that change

4348
03:09:04,319 --> 03:09:09,990
thank you

4349
03:09:10,000 --> 03:09:13,429
any other questions

4350
03:09:13,439 --> 03:09:20,550
you just wanted

4351
03:09:20,560 --> 03:09:21,840
all right

4352
03:09:21,840 --> 03:09:23,840
uh second item on the agenda to

4353
03:09:23,840 --> 03:09:25,920
authorize the issue is insurance

4354
03:09:25,920 --> 03:09:28,399
issuance of the revocable commit number

4355
03:09:28,399 --> 03:09:31,600
671 to very birds

4356
03:09:31,600 --> 03:09:33,359
and so uh

4357
03:09:33,359 --> 03:09:35,200
is a new gallery

4358
03:09:35,200 --> 03:09:37,520
on pedestrian j street and i would like

4359
03:09:37,520 --> 03:09:39,200
to draw everyone's attention to the sign

4360
03:09:39,200 --> 03:09:41,520
because it is very cute

4361
03:09:41,520 --> 03:09:43,279
has a barren bird on

4362
03:09:43,279 --> 03:09:45,760
so uh they will be utilizing an existing

4363
03:09:45,760 --> 03:09:46,800
bracket

4364
03:09:46,800 --> 03:09:48,960
uh and this has done a planning it is

4365
03:09:48,960 --> 03:09:51,680
very similar in style and size to the

4366
03:09:51,680 --> 03:09:53,040
other signs that are out there kind of

4367
03:09:53,040 --> 03:09:54,000
boutique

4368
03:09:54,000 --> 03:10:03,269
so we don't have any issues with it

4369
03:10:03,279 --> 03:10:05,600
fire training facility improvements mr

4370
03:10:05,600 --> 03:10:07,200
sure i'm going to speak about both of

4371
03:10:07,200 --> 03:10:10,399
these because they're semi-related

4372
03:10:10,399 --> 03:10:13,520
three and four three and four so um the

4373
03:10:13,520 --> 03:10:18,160
city uh engaged with h2m architects to

4374
03:10:18,160 --> 03:10:19,600
uh make improvements to the fire

4375
03:10:19,600 --> 03:10:21,439
training facility that's located at the

4376
03:10:21,439 --> 03:10:23,920
corner of golf in oregon

4377
03:10:23,920 --> 03:10:25,840
that is the tower that has been there

4378
03:10:25,840 --> 03:10:28,000
the tower has been derelict for quite

4379
03:10:28,000 --> 03:10:30,000
some time due to

4380
03:10:30,000 --> 03:10:30,800
some

4381
03:10:30,800 --> 03:10:32,560
miss i would say miss maintenance on it

4382
03:10:32,560 --> 03:10:34,640
windows open had a lot of issues with

4383
03:10:34,640 --> 03:10:37,120
birds and nesting and things like that

4384
03:10:37,120 --> 03:10:38,640
so the tower kind of fell into a state

4385
03:10:38,640 --> 03:10:41,439
of disrepair uh similarly uh situation

4386
03:10:41,439 --> 03:10:42,720
with the smoke house because that

4387
03:10:42,720 --> 03:10:44,720
training actually kind of changed so

4388
03:10:44,720 --> 03:10:46,239
through our conversations with the fire

4389
03:10:46,239 --> 03:10:48,960
department and h2m we decided to move in

4390
03:10:48,960 --> 03:10:51,279
a different path that building was small

4391
03:10:51,279 --> 03:10:53,200
it was solid but it just for their

4392
03:10:53,200 --> 03:10:55,680
training purposes it did not fit so that

4393
03:10:55,680 --> 03:10:57,439
building was removed in-house by city

4394
03:10:57,439 --> 03:10:58,479
personnel

4395
03:10:58,479 --> 03:11:00,479
uh and we're looking to replace that

4396
03:11:00,479 --> 03:11:02,560
building uh the first one we have

4397
03:11:02,560 --> 03:11:04,800
however is mid-state they are going to

4398
03:11:04,800 --> 03:11:07,120
be renovating the existing tower

4399
03:11:07,120 --> 03:11:09,200
so right now the tower is completely

4400
03:11:09,200 --> 03:11:11,920
clean it has been abated it has no more

4401
03:11:11,920 --> 03:11:13,680
garment it is sealed

4402
03:11:13,680 --> 03:11:15,600
and what mid-state is going to do is go

4403
03:11:15,600 --> 03:11:16,239
in

4404
03:11:16,239 --> 03:11:18,160
continue refurbishment

4405
03:11:18,160 --> 03:11:20,000
replace all the boards with actual

4406
03:11:20,000 --> 03:11:22,080
windows the windows will be different

4407
03:11:22,080 --> 03:11:23,520
based off of what was already been

4408
03:11:23,520 --> 03:11:27,120
discussed in the police sorry fires

4409
03:11:27,120 --> 03:11:28,800
procedures so some windows are double

4410
03:11:28,800 --> 03:11:30,399
honks some windows from all the way up

4411
03:11:30,399 --> 03:11:31,600
depending on where they are on the

4412
03:11:31,600 --> 03:11:32,720
building and how they're going to do for

4413
03:11:32,720 --> 03:11:35,120
their training so the first is to

4414
03:11:35,120 --> 03:11:37,760
renovate the existing training topic and

4415
03:11:37,760 --> 03:11:40,319
that is the mid-state industry we have

4416
03:11:40,319 --> 03:11:41,760
worked with mistake in the past we

4417
03:11:41,760 --> 03:11:43,680
worked with them quite a bit

4418
03:11:43,680 --> 03:11:45,520
reputable company that we've never had

4419
03:11:45,520 --> 03:11:48,389
issues with

4420
03:11:48,399 --> 03:11:50,960
any questions i'm sorry

4421
03:11:50,960 --> 03:11:52,479
okay

4422
03:11:52,479 --> 03:11:56,229
a second also in favor

4423
03:11:56,239 --> 03:11:58,560
okay the second is for the new training

4424
03:11:58,560 --> 03:12:01,680
structure which is essentially a whole

4425
03:12:01,680 --> 03:12:03,359
barn norton style building the

4426
03:12:03,359 --> 03:12:04,560
building's large enough where they can

4427
03:12:04,560 --> 03:12:07,279
get some apparatus in it and will be a

4428
03:12:07,279 --> 03:12:09,600
larger dry space where they can put an

4429
03:12:09,600 --> 03:12:11,520
apparatus in or if not

4430
03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:12,560
do

4431
03:12:12,560 --> 03:12:13,920
i don't remember the name of it i think

4432
03:12:13,920 --> 03:12:15,600
it's confidence training where they

4433
03:12:15,600 --> 03:12:17,120
actually set up obstacle courses and

4434
03:12:17,120 --> 03:12:18,960
they put it in the dark and they have to

4435
03:12:18,960 --> 03:12:21,040
kind of navigate so as a it's a bigger

4436
03:12:21,040 --> 03:12:22,479
building they realize they didn't need

4437
03:12:22,479 --> 03:12:24,080
to you know break into the roof so much

4438
03:12:24,080 --> 03:12:25,600
and do what they did in the older style

4439
03:12:25,600 --> 03:12:27,520
and then they wanted the extra space so

4440
03:12:27,520 --> 03:12:29,520
this is a it's a simple structure

4441
03:12:29,520 --> 03:12:30,880
similar to what we did at the golf

4442
03:12:30,880 --> 03:12:32,239
course it's going to be used for

4443
03:12:32,239 --> 03:12:34,000
training purposes the reason we did them

4444
03:12:34,000 --> 03:12:36,000
separate is just because we wanted to

4445
03:12:36,000 --> 03:12:37,760
make sure that a company that did the

4446
03:12:37,760 --> 03:12:39,760
buildings might not do renovations and

4447
03:12:39,760 --> 03:12:41,760
that is what we got so we have a

4448
03:12:41,760 --> 03:12:43,200
renovation company in the building

4449
03:12:43,200 --> 03:12:45,520
company so it did work and the low bid

4450
03:12:45,520 --> 03:12:47,279
was the same company that is doing the

4451
03:12:47,279 --> 03:12:50,399
golf course which is not surprising in

4452
03:12:50,399 --> 03:12:52,080
the golf course we have had a very

4453
03:12:52,080 --> 03:12:54,560
successful time with him

4454
03:12:54,560 --> 03:12:56,479
so we have no reason to

4455
03:12:56,479 --> 03:12:58,160
from my perspective not go forward with

4456
03:12:58,160 --> 03:13:01,520
the next building any questions

4457
03:13:01,520 --> 03:13:03,359
which question i'll move it

4458
03:13:03,359 --> 03:13:06,710
second also

4459
03:13:06,720 --> 03:13:08,720
i think that this seems wrong okay thank

4460
03:13:08,720 --> 03:13:11,830
you so much thank you

4461
03:13:11,840 --> 03:13:13,840
all right um next time would be item

4462
03:13:13,840 --> 03:13:16,479
number seven oh i'm sorry

4463
03:13:16,479 --> 03:13:18,960
swimming pool agreement i'm number six

4464
03:13:18,960 --> 03:13:21,040
mr colton thank you

4465
03:13:21,040 --> 03:13:22,960
um

4466
03:13:22,960 --> 03:13:24,640
for a number of years the city has uh

4467
03:13:24,640 --> 03:13:26,319
contracted with the boys and girls club

4468
03:13:26,319 --> 03:13:28,560
since

4469
03:13:28,560 --> 03:13:30,239
for the operation of city on swimming

4470
03:13:30,239 --> 03:13:31,200
pools

4471
03:13:31,200 --> 03:13:32,319
which includes the provision of

4472
03:13:32,319 --> 03:13:34,000
lifeguard staffing

4473
03:13:34,000 --> 03:13:36,160
in 2021 the city paid the boys and girls

4474
03:13:36,160 --> 03:13:39,200
clubs 145 000 for the operation of city

4475
03:13:39,200 --> 03:13:41,600
pools due in part to staffing concerns

4476
03:13:41,600 --> 03:13:44,399
the negotiated contract for this current

4477
03:13:44,399 --> 03:13:47,920
year would be 155 thousand dollars

4478
03:13:47,920 --> 03:13:49,279
under the terms of the agreement the

4479
03:13:49,279 --> 03:13:51,120
central park front street in quack and

4480
03:13:51,120 --> 03:13:53,040
bush pools will be operated through

4481
03:13:53,040 --> 03:13:55,600
august 26 7 days per week at central

4482
03:13:55,600 --> 03:13:58,000
park and through august 19th six days

4483
03:13:58,000 --> 03:13:59,680
per week at uh front street in

4484
03:13:59,680 --> 03:14:02,080
quackenbush

4485
03:14:02,080 --> 03:14:03,760
the boys and girls club has requisite

4486
03:14:03,760 --> 03:14:05,359
experience and familiarity with the

4487
03:14:05,359 --> 03:14:07,600
city's pools to operate them

4488
03:14:07,600 --> 03:14:09,200
and because it's been difficult

4489
03:14:09,200 --> 03:14:10,720
according to the boys and girls club

4490
03:14:10,720 --> 03:14:12,160
find

4491
03:14:12,160 --> 03:14:14,560
trained lifeguards

4492
03:14:14,560 --> 03:14:16,399
they're looking to increase the contract

4493
03:14:16,399 --> 03:14:17,600
amount to

4494
03:14:17,600 --> 03:14:20,080
cover the additional

4495
03:14:20,080 --> 03:14:22,840
wages they would have to pay those

4496
03:14:22,840 --> 03:14:24,479
lifeguards

4497
03:14:24,479 --> 03:14:26,239
so

4498
03:14:26,239 --> 03:14:27,840
seeking

4499
03:14:27,840 --> 03:14:29,040
approval

4500
03:14:29,040 --> 03:14:33,110
from the committee to

4501
03:14:33,120 --> 03:14:35,520
request or to authorize this agreement

4502
03:14:35,520 --> 03:14:37,040
with the boys and girls club for the

4503
03:14:37,040 --> 03:14:38,880
full council's consideration for the

4504
03:14:38,880 --> 03:14:41,520
2022 season

4505
03:14:41,520 --> 03:14:44,239
any questions

4506
03:14:44,239 --> 03:14:45,920
it's not a question just general

4507
03:14:45,920 --> 03:14:47,680
information from the council it's my

4508
03:14:47,680 --> 03:14:49,760
intent not to open the quack and bush

4509
03:14:49,760 --> 03:14:51,760
pool

4510
03:14:51,760 --> 03:14:53,760
review

4511
03:14:53,760 --> 03:14:55,600
by the council mr williams we've gone

4512
03:14:55,600 --> 03:14:57,920
through done some of the evaluation

4513
03:14:57,920 --> 03:14:59,200
quack and bush

4514
03:14:59,200 --> 03:15:04,389
excuse me after five missions

4515
03:15:04,399 --> 03:15:06,000
which one are you not going to killers

4516
03:15:06,000 --> 03:15:07,600
okay

4517
03:15:07,600 --> 03:15:08,399
i

4518
03:15:08,399 --> 03:15:10,319
apologize for the statement

4519
03:15:10,319 --> 03:15:11,120
uh

4520
03:15:11,120 --> 03:15:13,279
been losing a significant amount of

4521
03:15:13,279 --> 03:15:15,520
water every day

4522
03:15:15,520 --> 03:15:18,720
uh we have not been able to identify

4523
03:15:18,720 --> 03:15:21,600
that leak or where the water is going

4524
03:15:21,600 --> 03:15:24,000
but the potential is there that some of

4525
03:15:24,000 --> 03:15:26,080
the subsurface of the pool because it's

4526
03:15:26,080 --> 03:15:27,920
the lower drains

4527
03:15:27,920 --> 03:15:29,680
they've

4528
03:15:29,680 --> 03:15:31,279
filled the pool at the lower levels the

4529
03:15:31,279 --> 03:15:33,680
water goes out so it's the lower drains

4530
03:15:33,680 --> 03:15:38,150
that are losing it

4531
03:15:38,160 --> 03:15:40,080
it's going somewhere and worried about

4532
03:15:40,080 --> 03:15:42,319
there may be some compromise of the

4533
03:15:42,319 --> 03:15:44,399
surface or the support structure for the

4534
03:15:44,399 --> 03:15:45,200
pool

4535
03:15:45,200 --> 03:15:47,600
so if we total pull up

4536
03:15:47,600 --> 03:15:50,720
there is the potential of a failure

4537
03:15:50,720 --> 03:15:52,239
with the pool

4538
03:15:52,239 --> 03:15:53,840
and

4539
03:15:53,840 --> 03:15:55,920
just at this point not ready to run that

4540
03:15:55,920 --> 03:15:58,160
risk until we can do a

4541
03:15:58,160 --> 03:16:03,190
more in-depth evaluation with it

4542
03:16:03,200 --> 03:16:05,200
is the front street pool actually

4543
03:16:05,200 --> 03:16:07,040
usable

4544
03:16:07,040 --> 03:16:08,479
i don't know if you could go swimming

4545
03:16:08,479 --> 03:16:11,110
tonight

4546
03:16:11,120 --> 03:16:12,880
okay for some reason i thought it was

4547
03:16:12,880 --> 03:16:25,910
like in total disrepair

4548
03:16:25,920 --> 03:16:27,040
it's a good thing

4549
03:16:27,040 --> 03:16:36,469
so um

4550
03:16:36,479 --> 03:16:38,560
discussion hosting quarterly city

4551
03:16:38,560 --> 03:16:40,479
council meetings outside to help follow

4552
03:16:40,479 --> 03:16:41,920
him

4553
03:16:41,920 --> 03:16:44,239
so not to believe this topic um i think

4554
03:16:44,239 --> 03:16:46,640
the last meeting we're just going to

4555
03:16:46,640 --> 03:16:48,160
get more information about where and

4556
03:16:48,160 --> 03:16:49,359
what topic

4557
03:16:49,359 --> 03:16:50,479
um

4558
03:16:50,479 --> 03:16:51,760
i think the

4559
03:16:51,760 --> 03:16:53,760
apparent one would be addressing the

4560
03:16:53,760 --> 03:16:55,439
speed limit signs and then hearing it

4561
03:16:55,439 --> 03:17:01,120
from both ac whipple and also from mr uh

4562
03:17:01,120 --> 03:17:02,399
i'm talking about the three e's

4563
03:17:02,399 --> 03:17:04,640
education enforcement and engineering i

4564
03:17:04,640 --> 03:17:06,239
think it's important for us to get

4565
03:17:06,239 --> 03:17:08,479
behind a education campaign from the

4566
03:17:08,479 --> 03:17:10,880
city to inform people and i think using

4567
03:17:10,880 --> 03:17:12,560
an opportunity to meet outside of the

4568
03:17:12,560 --> 03:17:15,439
council will not only be able to have us

4569
03:17:15,439 --> 03:17:17,600
put this in a

4570
03:17:17,600 --> 03:17:24,389
more uh transverse

4571
03:17:24,399 --> 03:17:26,560
venue i think pausing really quick

4572
03:17:26,560 --> 03:17:27,760
having the opportunity to go to the

4573
03:17:27,760 --> 03:17:29,840
campus the office of cannabis meeting

4574
03:17:29,840 --> 03:17:31,600
and seeing that that room was packed

4575
03:17:31,600 --> 03:17:34,399
full on that topic was uh exciting and

4576
03:17:34,399 --> 03:17:35,760
trying to figure out ways to kind of

4577
03:17:35,760 --> 03:17:37,359
meet people where they are i think

4578
03:17:37,359 --> 03:17:40,479
taking this topic into the community and

4579
03:17:40,479 --> 03:17:41,920
allowing us to put in place the

4580
03:17:41,920 --> 03:17:43,840
resources such as the police and also

4581
03:17:43,840 --> 03:17:45,439
engineering and then providing them the

4582
03:17:45,439 --> 03:17:48,399
resources to potentially have a public

4583
03:17:48,399 --> 03:17:49,439
hearing

4584
03:17:49,439 --> 03:17:51,680
on the road i think is important or it

4585
03:17:51,680 --> 03:17:54,319
could be an option

4586
03:17:54,319 --> 03:17:56,399
so i would not do the speeding topic i

4587
03:17:56,399 --> 03:17:57,920
didn't get a chance to talk with you

4588
03:17:57,920 --> 03:18:00,080
about this earlier but um you know we

4589
03:18:00,080 --> 03:18:01,760
don't need to do a public hearing about

4590
03:18:01,760 --> 03:18:03,279
speeding topics

4591
03:18:03,279 --> 03:18:04,880
i think we've definitely gotten enough

4592
03:18:04,880 --> 03:18:06,239
input from our residents about the

4593
03:18:06,239 --> 03:18:08,399
speeding topic but i think if we were

4594
03:18:08,399 --> 03:18:09,840
going to have a town hall

4595
03:18:09,840 --> 03:18:11,279
outside of here

4596
03:18:11,279 --> 03:18:13,040
which is i think what we talked about at

4597
03:18:13,040 --> 03:18:14,640
last

4598
03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:17,120
whenever it was that we did say yes

4599
03:18:17,120 --> 03:18:20,479
let's let's do try to do some town halls

4600
03:18:20,479 --> 03:18:22,560
i think a larger issue

4601
03:18:22,560 --> 03:18:24,560
might be around noise

4602
03:18:24,560 --> 03:18:27,279
um and behavioral change around noise

4603
03:18:27,279 --> 03:18:29,600
and whether we include fireworks in that

4604
03:18:29,600 --> 03:18:32,160
um that may be soliciting public input

4605
03:18:32,160 --> 03:18:34,239
on how we might be able to make those

4606
03:18:34,239 --> 03:18:36,160
kinds of behavioral changes was just

4607
03:18:36,160 --> 03:18:38,399
something i was thinking about after i

4608
03:18:38,399 --> 03:18:40,800
um you know received your message but

4609
03:18:40,800 --> 03:18:42,640
because that's also the other quality of

4610
03:18:42,640 --> 03:18:44,239
life issue that i think that we hear so

4611
03:18:44,239 --> 03:18:45,680
much about but

4612
03:18:45,680 --> 03:18:47,120
um i don't know if anybody else had a

4613
03:18:47,120 --> 03:18:48,800
topic but i don't i don't really think

4614
03:18:48,800 --> 03:18:50,399
that we need to have a whole town hall

4615
03:18:50,399 --> 03:18:52,399
on speeding

4616
03:18:52,399 --> 03:18:55,349
issues

4617
03:18:55,359 --> 03:18:57,040
um so in terms of that

4618
03:18:57,040 --> 03:18:58,239
i did actually have something it's

4619
03:18:58,239 --> 03:18:59,359
something

4620
03:18:59,359 --> 03:19:01,760
in its public banking i think that's a

4621
03:19:01,760 --> 03:19:07,910
topping that topic that

4622
03:19:07,920 --> 03:19:09,520
hear about but i think it may be a topic

4623
03:19:09,520 --> 03:19:11,439
worth talking to people about in terms

4624
03:19:11,439 --> 03:19:13,359
of public banking and how the positive

4625
03:19:13,359 --> 03:19:14,960
impact it could have on the community so

4626
03:19:14,960 --> 03:19:16,960
that it's a topic that i thought we

4627
03:19:16,960 --> 03:19:19,760
could um to have a meeting

4628
03:19:19,760 --> 03:19:22,640
um if i could just address the

4629
03:19:22,640 --> 03:19:27,439
i'm kind of concerned about you know the noise part of it because for me um

4630
03:19:27,439 --> 03:19:29,680
as we think it through like if we bring

4631
03:19:29,680 --> 03:19:31,520
this out so we should also come with

4632
03:19:31,520 --> 03:19:32,800
some solutions

4633
03:19:32,800 --> 03:19:34,239
and so

4634
03:19:34,239 --> 03:19:36,560
what you know because we've been i and i

4635
03:19:36,560 --> 03:19:38,880
really wish we had a solution because

4636
03:19:38,880 --> 03:19:40,399
just like everyone else here i hear

4637
03:19:40,399 --> 03:19:41,359
about

4638
03:19:41,359 --> 03:19:42,640
all the time

4639
03:19:42,640 --> 03:19:45,359
non-stop um

4640
03:19:45,359 --> 03:19:47,600
phone calls emails

4641
03:19:47,600 --> 03:19:49,920
you name it we have it and we definitely

4642
03:19:49,920 --> 03:19:51,279
do need to knew

4643
03:19:51,279 --> 03:19:54,000
i was at a meeting just before this one

4644
03:19:54,000 --> 03:19:56,800
and noise was um one of the big

4645
03:19:56,800 --> 03:19:58,720
complaints about it and so you know we

4646
03:19:58,720 --> 03:20:00,640
looked at the the ordinance and there is

4647
03:20:00,640 --> 03:20:02,000
you know the city does have an ordinance

4648
03:20:02,000 --> 03:20:03,920
but it was more about and the police

4649
03:20:03,920 --> 03:20:04,960
were there

4650
03:20:04,960 --> 03:20:07,040
and they were talking about um

4651
03:20:07,040 --> 03:20:08,800
their priorities

4652
03:20:08,800 --> 03:20:10,160
calls that you know if they have a

4653
03:20:10,160 --> 03:20:12,000
priority threatening that's a if they

4654
03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:13,920
have a priority one noise is going to be

4655
03:20:13,920 --> 03:20:16,160
a priority three he specifically said

4656
03:20:16,160 --> 03:20:18,479
you may not see us for five hours

4657
03:20:18,479 --> 03:20:19,200
so

4658
03:20:19,200 --> 03:20:20,960
um i don't disagree something that needs

4659
03:20:20,960 --> 03:20:23,840
to be discussed but however um i think

4660
03:20:23,840 --> 03:20:25,680
it can get pretty emotional if we have

4661
03:20:25,680 --> 03:20:28,960
it there um wondering how we come with

4662
03:20:28,960 --> 03:20:30,640
it to say and this is what we can do

4663
03:20:30,640 --> 03:20:31,680
about it

4664
03:20:31,680 --> 03:20:34,319
so let's go ahead and step up sorry oh

4665
03:20:34,319 --> 03:20:36,319
yes um so

4666
03:20:36,319 --> 03:20:39,200
maybe we need to each think about or

4667
03:20:39,200 --> 03:20:41,439
send topics because i'm hearing what

4668
03:20:41,439 --> 03:20:43,520
you're saying i think when i think of a

4669
03:20:43,520 --> 03:20:45,840
town hall i think it's you know

4670
03:20:45,840 --> 03:20:47,359
the idea of being able to actually

4671
03:20:47,359 --> 03:20:50,319
solicit input from folks

4672
03:20:50,319 --> 03:20:52,239
um

4673
03:20:52,239 --> 03:20:55,680
so maybe that's too specific a topic also

4674
03:20:55,680 --> 03:20:58,160
in other words like maybe

4675
03:20:58,160 --> 03:20:59,439
inflation

4676
03:20:59,439 --> 03:21:02,560
um as a town hall issue

4677
03:21:02,560 --> 03:21:04,080
or

4678
03:21:04,080 --> 03:21:04,960
you know

4679
03:21:04,960 --> 03:21:07,279
environmental issues or something that

4680
03:21:07,279 --> 03:21:09,279
you know we can

4681
03:21:09,279 --> 03:21:11,040
think of some speakers

4682
03:21:11,040 --> 03:21:12,960
or you know

4683
03:21:12,960 --> 03:21:14,160
i i

4684
03:21:14,160 --> 03:21:16,080
i'm just saying maybe maybe we should be

4685
03:21:16,080 --> 03:21:17,680
kind of thinking of some topics and

4686
03:21:17,680 --> 03:21:19,880
sending ideas

4687
03:21:19,880 --> 03:21:21,439
[Music]

4688
03:21:21,439 --> 03:21:22,960
so i wasn't too hard pressing anyone

4689
03:21:22,960 --> 03:21:24,640
topic just more or less the intent of

4690
03:21:24,640 --> 03:21:26,239
doing something in the community i can

4691
03:21:26,239 --> 03:21:28,479
absolutely look and do a deep dive on

4692
03:21:28,479 --> 03:21:30,880
the noise ordinances and public

4693
03:21:30,880 --> 03:21:33,120
banking and then come together within a

4694
03:21:33,120 --> 03:21:34,800
proposed agenda and then we can kind of

4695
03:21:34,800 --> 03:21:38,560
have some information behind that

4696
03:21:38,560 --> 03:21:40,479
yes mr mayor are you looking to do a

4697
03:21:40,479 --> 03:21:43,040
city council meeting

4698
03:21:43,040 --> 03:21:46,560
or just going to be a separate

4699
03:21:46,560 --> 03:21:48,800
meeting of the council

4700
03:21:48,800 --> 03:21:50,319
my intent was to have a city council

4701
03:21:50,319 --> 03:21:51,200
meeting

4702
03:21:51,200 --> 03:21:53,760
and i think that's a good idea the only

4703
03:21:53,760 --> 03:21:55,279
thing i would submit to your

4704
03:21:55,279 --> 03:21:56,720
consideration

4705
03:21:56,720 --> 03:21:58,640
is sometimes you know you're going to

4706
03:21:58,640 --> 03:22:00,960
have the topic that looking for public

4707
03:22:00,960 --> 03:22:02,960
input

4708
03:22:02,960 --> 03:22:05,279
you might have something on the agenda

4709
03:22:05,279 --> 03:22:07,600
for a public hearing

4710
03:22:07,600 --> 03:22:09,680
the people for the public hearing

4711
03:22:09,680 --> 03:22:11,840
might not be concerned about

4712
03:22:11,840 --> 03:22:14,239
the topics there and those are people

4713
03:22:14,239 --> 03:22:16,080
who would traditionally come to city

4714
03:22:16,080 --> 03:22:17,920
hall you don't want to create an

4715
03:22:17,920 --> 03:22:22,479
impression that the people who

4716
03:22:22,479 --> 03:22:23,840
might be some controversy with the

4717
03:22:23,840 --> 03:22:25,760
public hearing

4718
03:22:25,760 --> 03:22:28,399
you're moving it out of city hall and so

4719
03:22:28,399 --> 03:22:31,920
there's just a scheduling issue there

4720
03:22:31,920 --> 03:22:33,200
which

4721
03:22:33,200 --> 03:22:34,479
should be

4722
03:22:34,479 --> 03:22:37,600
fairly easy to work around

4723
03:22:37,600 --> 03:22:38,960
it's just

4724
03:22:38,960 --> 03:22:41,120
seen sometimes where public hearings can

4725
03:22:41,120 --> 03:22:44,479
be more controversial than

4726
03:22:44,479 --> 03:22:46,880
the overall agenda and other times

4727
03:22:46,880 --> 03:22:49,040
everything just runs smooth and

4728
03:22:49,040 --> 03:22:50,880
i like to say we're all one big happy

4729
03:22:50,880 --> 03:22:51,750
family

4730
03:22:51,750 --> 03:22:53,359
[Music]

4731
03:22:53,359 --> 03:22:56,000
i think um i think though when we talked

4732
03:22:56,000 --> 03:22:58,640
about this last time we did decide i i

4733
03:22:58,640 --> 03:23:00,160
felt that we had decided that we weren't

4734
03:23:00,160 --> 03:23:01,840
going to do a city council meeting on

4735
03:23:01,840 --> 03:23:04,000
site but then instead we were moving to

4736
03:23:04,000 --> 03:23:05,200
the

4737
03:23:05,200 --> 03:23:07,760
i have three nodding heads here in a row

4738
03:23:07,760 --> 03:23:09,359
that it was more around the idea that we

4739
03:23:09,359 --> 03:23:11,359
were going to try to host some public

4740
03:23:11,359 --> 03:23:14,239
some town meetings on topics that might

4741
03:23:14,239 --> 03:23:16,399
be of interest to folks

4742
03:23:16,399 --> 03:23:18,640
to come and learn something um at the

4743
03:23:18,640 --> 03:23:20,160
tommy at least that was my impression

4744
03:23:20,160 --> 03:23:23,040
when we left that last meeting

4745
03:23:23,040 --> 03:23:23,920
go ahead

4746
03:23:23,920 --> 03:23:25,200
so i think the last meeting was that

4747
03:23:25,200 --> 03:23:26,800
there would be considerations from both

4748
03:23:26,800 --> 03:23:28,080
wasn't estimated no it wasn't

4749
03:23:28,080 --> 03:23:30,479
necessarily that we would um

4750
03:23:30,479 --> 03:23:33,200
not go down one um but again definitely

4751
03:23:33,200 --> 03:23:35,760
taking eating the mayor's recommendation

4752
03:23:35,760 --> 03:23:37,359
of making sure we're intentionally

4753
03:23:37,359 --> 03:23:38,960
looking at all avenues and potentially

4754
03:23:38,960 --> 03:23:40,640
exposing ourselves to this

4755
03:23:40,640 --> 03:23:42,640
i don't want to rush anything i don't

4756
03:23:42,640 --> 03:23:43,920
want to

4757
03:23:43,920 --> 03:23:47,730
expose us to with potential backlash or

4758
03:23:47,730 --> 03:23:49,200
[Music]

4759
03:23:49,200 --> 03:23:51,840
negatively affect topics that are of

4760
03:23:51,840 --> 03:23:54,479
benefit to the city so i'm not going to

4761
03:23:54,479 --> 03:23:56,160
do the work so i can come back with an

4762
03:23:56,160 --> 03:23:58,239
update

4763
03:23:58,239 --> 03:24:01,439
mr toro and and mr williams i totally

4764
03:24:01,439 --> 03:24:03,439
agree with you i mean our meetings are

4765
03:24:03,439 --> 03:24:06,319
kind of sad we need to bring people in

4766
03:24:06,319 --> 03:24:07,920
um

4767
03:24:07,920 --> 03:24:09,359
but going to them i don't think

4768
03:24:09,359 --> 03:24:11,680
necessarily would be the answer but

4769
03:24:11,680 --> 03:24:14,479
again if we visit their

4770
03:24:14,479 --> 03:24:16,720
neighborhood meetings which i visited i

4771
03:24:16,720 --> 03:24:18,319
tried to visit everyone's neighborhood

4772
03:24:18,319 --> 03:24:20,640
meetings but if we go as a group i mean

4773
03:24:20,640 --> 03:24:22,239
it's already being done

4774
03:24:22,239 --> 03:24:24,640
and we bring a a

4775
03:24:24,640 --> 03:24:27,040
speaker with us that day on

4776
03:24:27,040 --> 03:24:28,720
something but those meetings are already

4777
03:24:28,720 --> 03:24:31,040
being held in different neighborhoods

4778
03:24:31,040 --> 03:24:34,239
and um we just visit doing

4779
03:24:34,239 --> 03:24:36,560
rotations tomorrow neighborhood meetings

4780
03:24:36,560 --> 03:24:37,760
yeah

4781
03:24:37,760 --> 03:24:39,520
that's mrs wayne so i'd say we'd like to

4782
03:24:39,520 --> 03:24:41,520
organize a time for all of us to get

4783
03:24:41,520 --> 03:24:43,359
together and attend one meeting i would

4784
03:24:43,359 --> 03:24:46,720
absolutely not be opposed to that yeah

4785
03:24:46,720 --> 03:24:50,000
i most have stopped for the summer but

4786
03:24:50,000 --> 03:24:51,279
yeah

4787
03:24:51,279 --> 03:24:52,720
so we also

4788
03:24:52,720 --> 03:24:56,080
have liability potential of if we have a

4789
03:24:56,080 --> 03:24:58,960
council meeting outside of city hall so

4790
03:24:58,960 --> 03:25:02,000
a worker goes gets an accident there's

4791
03:25:02,000 --> 03:25:04,160
potential liability

4792
03:25:04,160 --> 03:25:06,479
we have a number of other issues

4793
03:25:06,479 --> 03:25:08,720
the mayor brought up a couple of those

4794
03:25:08,720 --> 03:25:09,920
um so

4795
03:25:09,920 --> 03:25:12,239
a council meeting outside of here i mean

4796
03:25:12,239 --> 03:25:13,439
we've seen

4797
03:25:13,439 --> 03:25:15,439
the attendance when

4798
03:25:15,439 --> 03:25:17,840
something of interest happens

4799
03:25:17,840 --> 03:25:19,760
it's been pretty good

4800
03:25:19,760 --> 03:25:21,279
and

4801
03:25:21,279 --> 03:25:23,920
you know the cannabis meeting granted it

4802
03:25:23,920 --> 03:25:26,319
was off-site but it's

4803
03:25:26,319 --> 03:25:28,479
right diagonal to city hall

4804
03:25:28,479 --> 03:25:29,680
so

4805
03:25:29,680 --> 03:25:31,680
i really feel strongly this is our

4806
03:25:31,680 --> 03:25:33,520
center of government

4807
03:25:33,520 --> 03:25:34,880
it's a symbol

4808
03:25:34,880 --> 03:25:36,319
and that's where we should have our

4809
03:25:36,319 --> 03:25:37,920
meetings

4810
03:25:37,920 --> 03:25:41,040
having a town hall all four

4811
03:25:41,040 --> 03:25:43,760
with a prescribed topic and

4812
03:25:43,760 --> 03:25:45,439
bringing in the neighborhood or people

4813
03:25:45,439 --> 03:25:46,960
around the city

4814
03:25:46,960 --> 03:25:48,160
fine

4815
03:25:48,160 --> 03:25:51,840
that's just us has a council showing up

4816
03:25:51,840 --> 03:25:52,800
um

4817
03:25:52,800 --> 03:25:54,880
but a council meeting

4818
03:25:54,880 --> 03:25:58,000
i mean been pretty steadfast with that

4819
03:25:58,000 --> 03:26:00,960
i i just will say that we this is not

4820
03:26:00,960 --> 03:26:02,800
new it's been done before the council i

4821
03:26:02,800 --> 03:26:04,080
don't know if america is on the council

4822
03:26:04,080 --> 03:26:06,239
of the time he's been on the council for

4823
03:26:06,239 --> 03:26:07,760
a long time but so it's not a new

4824
03:26:07,760 --> 03:26:08,880
concept

4825
03:26:08,880 --> 03:26:10,720
the city i can go back i'll go back and

4826
03:26:10,720 --> 03:26:12,160
give you the information so city hall

4827
03:26:12,160 --> 03:26:13,760
meetings have been held outside of city

4828
03:26:13,760 --> 03:26:17,760
hall before so it would not be a first

4829
03:26:17,760 --> 03:26:19,840
and in terms of you know i mean we did

4830
03:26:19,840 --> 03:26:21,520
through the cannabis meeting yes it was

4831
03:26:21,520 --> 03:26:23,359
there um that's because the size of the

4832
03:26:23,359 --> 03:26:24,239
space

4833
03:26:24,239 --> 03:26:27,040
um i just think that it's you know as i

4834
03:26:27,040 --> 03:26:28,880
said before and i'll say again that we

4835
03:26:28,880 --> 03:26:32,080
continually go to people when we want to

4836
03:26:32,080 --> 03:26:34,319
you know to solicit them and so bringing

4837
03:26:34,319 --> 03:26:35,920
a meeting into the community to me is

4838
03:26:35,920 --> 03:26:39,279
not outside of of us just saying to them

4839
03:26:39,279 --> 03:26:42,000
okay we come to you during election time

4840
03:26:42,000 --> 03:26:43,520
now we're coming to you as well i'm

4841
03:26:43,520 --> 03:26:44,640
putting something right in your

4842
03:26:44,640 --> 03:26:46,560
neighborhood i don't think that's beyond

4843
03:26:46,560 --> 03:26:48,479
the realm of possibility or or and i

4844
03:26:48,479 --> 03:26:50,479
think it actually even makes sense but

4845
03:26:50,479 --> 03:26:52,479
um mr williams said he's going to bring

4846
03:26:52,479 --> 03:26:54,239
back

4847
03:26:54,239 --> 03:26:56,399
some other considerations for us and do

4848
03:26:56,399 --> 03:26:58,000
you want more topics to do you want us

4849
03:26:58,000 --> 03:26:59,279
to send you more topics or are you just

4850
03:26:59,279 --> 03:27:00,399
going to work with the ones that we

4851
03:27:00,399 --> 03:27:02,720
discussed tonight

4852
03:27:02,720 --> 03:27:05,190
all right

4853
03:27:05,200 --> 03:27:09,030
is there any more input on that topic

4854
03:27:09,040 --> 03:27:10,880
okay

4855
03:27:10,880 --> 03:27:13,040
then i would entertain a motion to go

4856
03:27:13,040 --> 03:27:15,200
into executive session

4857
03:27:15,200 --> 03:27:16,960
okay we'll be going to

4858
03:27:16,960 --> 03:27:20,160
the executive session for the purpose of

4859
03:27:20,160 --> 03:27:22,239
property sales yes and i'll secondly

4860
03:27:22,239 --> 03:27:25,640
always in favor