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i'd like to call to order this

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connecting city council committee

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meeting for monday august 1st 2022.

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uh first committee of claims

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motion to go into executive session

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legislature

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so the county folks

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need me up there so i appreciate

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and his great team at dsic

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uh submitted an application to aarp

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which somebody said to me over the

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weekend i'd go am i a member

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american association of retired people

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and i thought it was a long shot grant

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but they won it was really great it was

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a national competition and they picked a

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couple of projects in every state just a

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handful two or three and jim and his

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team and it's connected one and it's to

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improve a public space

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basically in a downtown area so congrats

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to jim jim is here heather peterson is

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here who chairs the dsic great great

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news so we working with the mayor and

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andrew colvin and the team we've looked

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at the site here on j-100 104-j where the

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fire was back in 2015.

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we've been maintaining that lot

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mowing it

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picking up the litter the city has site

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control of both parcels as i understand

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through the foreclosure process so we'd

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like to go forward with a five year

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at no cost and then a five-year option

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so this preserves the ability to do a

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development deal at that site in the

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someone wants to do something there on

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the development side but we think new

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space is very important urban green

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and then growing downtown a lot more

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residential units uh are happening

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and june can talk a little bit more

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plans for the site but we'd like to uh

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we're going to

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match the grant that jim won

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with another twenty thousand dollars and

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we're going to continue to maintain the

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property

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keep it free of litter

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you know do all the maintenance the

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mowing snow plowing whatever we need to

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do we've been doing it anyway since 15.

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so we'd ask for your support to move

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this forward i think

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the downtown community is pretty excited

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about it and if you can i'd just like

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jim to just talk about it a little more

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because he knows the

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design stuff about the site a lot better

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than i do

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yeah thanks frank

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uh with the grant that we got from aarp

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it includes some specific things to go

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into the space

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and a big part of that is ada compliance

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because it's important for

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them as a renting organization to make

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sure that spaces that they're helping to

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fund are

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so it would include

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some regular picnic tables some garbage

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receptacles

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some signage but also would include 88

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compliant benches

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flower boxes that people could

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get up to using a wheelchair if

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necessary and again

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to have a space that is usable in

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downtown for everybody

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thanks to ray and everybody in metroplex

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and their generosity working with us on

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the project they're really going to

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provide some additional funding to make

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sure it's well lit

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we really want to get some public art in

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there there's you know there's a lot of

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elements we're really in the beginning

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stages of talking about

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what the design will be but

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as we all know it's an extremely

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prominent place

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right across from city hall and

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i know the businesses and the community

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would really appreciate

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having the space to uh spend time with

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i have a question actually probably for

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let's say for instance that somebody

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comes along and wants to

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put a building there or build something

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that would you know give income to the

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city what is what would our options be

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then or once it becomes a green space is

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always a green space no it's not we're

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not dedic we're not looking to dedicate

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this apartment it's a really good

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question we had some people ask this uh

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it's just a lease

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uh and uh we have to have some term of

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the lease to protect the investment from

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the aarp grant our match

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but we've looked at this site we really

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haven't had a lot of interest in it

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because it's very small you know and

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you can only do a handful of units there

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we've done thousands of new apartments

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downtown

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so we really are looking more at the

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value of having a green space but the

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way we're looking to write the contract

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between metrics and the city is to have

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five and five

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and have some

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ability to terminate the contract with

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some notice on both you know on your

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side so in case somebody wants to build

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something there we have a way to

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accommodate that so try to look at all

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future options i know that's something

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the mayor talked about as well if

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somebody wants to come in there and do

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infill

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but right now we're really excited about

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reading it up and having a place for

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people

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and i know the green market is really

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exciting on sunday as well just to be

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able

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so successful and so

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busy that they can use that as

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you know teaching space gathering space

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you know just yesterday

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they've already been at the table on the

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green market it's extremely exciting

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right i think we're gonna have community

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input on the design so welcome

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all ideas

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thank you

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any other questions

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i just want to comment i think that this

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fits in really well with um the work of

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the creative placemaking

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summit also and especially in terms of

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being able to extend

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the excitement of the pedestrian part of

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j street um a little bit further so it

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will help some of the businesses

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again a little bit further um but i

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think even for the festivals like kids

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art fest and and some of those things

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that it just will provide

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you know just be really

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nice right and take those scrolls that

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converse yeah

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i think it's great and congratulations

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on the brand

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plus uh mr before yeah like i just

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wanted to a second and say

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congratulations on what seemed to be a

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pretty competitive grant you know um so

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and i have to give a special shout out

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to amy saunder

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on our team who is

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really instrumental in

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getting the grant submitted so

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thank you for that and i you know i

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think it's always great when we you know

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now after you know being successful in

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the competitive space then you have uh

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metrics that's stepping in within the

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partner to kind of leverage you know

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build up that success so i think that

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this is a good thing it sounds like a

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really good thing so i appreciate that

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thank you

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and what's the time frame

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as soon as we can we already have a

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design okay hoping that you might

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approve it

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just they didn't have me in the room

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because i'm not a good design person but

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they i know they had a meeting last week

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i'm sorry

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one more question

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i'm sorry um hi so um i know you're

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mentioning before you just wanted to

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have the lease in place was there any

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considerations of recruiting social

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equity to selecting five years

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was there any reason for selecting a

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five-year term um

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we initially had talked about 10 but i

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think this same idea of giving

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both sides flexibility i think the mayor

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talked about that council is kind of

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giving people some flexibility in case

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some other opportunity arises

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um

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so it's just kind of a good

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give-and-take

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and if i can't follow up

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also you mentioned having public input

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can you describe how you see that or

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what capacity i think we're gonna we

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have like uh we come up with some

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preliminary designs and we can share

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that you know

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kind of meeting and publicly and put it

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on our website

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yeah that's come up in our discussions

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and we feel that there's either through

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educating a bench or having just

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something that just

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honors you because the artwork on the

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fence now it just keeps the memory alive

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to all of us and clearly say them

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is

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very respectful through

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the people and what happened there as

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well while turning it into a break we

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didn't want to move on too quickly

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either

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that's

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any other questions

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a second always in paper

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so i'd like to call it or the public

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safety committee we have six items on

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the agenda for today the first

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the number of them will be briefed by

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mike's

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ac seaver the first of which is the gift

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uh grant for fiscal year 2022-23

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thank you thank you

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[Music]

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grants given through us by new york

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state um for different reasons for

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students that first homeowner generally

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is the given

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event

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it's a

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2022-2023 give grant

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of our standard grant that we uh

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received every year the amount is going

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to work out with uh dcgs as a county

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we've received 785 thousand 275 dollars

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for the city we're going to get 354 142

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dollars on that other money um i

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included our application

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which is very likely but i just wanted

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you guys to have a better understanding

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what goes into the application how much

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thought is given to it we work with dcbs

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on developing it it's not just

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us but there's a lot of effort that goes

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in within the police department in the

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da's office information and sheriff's

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and everyone shout out to everybody so

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it's a you know cooperation that we'll

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agree with so any questions i can ask

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you can we send it to that paperwork

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it was very comprehensive i mean it was

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really interesting reading actually so

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thank you for

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evidence you yeah what's based on you

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know theories and stuff it is quite

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involved

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if you know the question or comments

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there's any motion to approve foreign

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moving on to the next item that's the

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edward byrne memorial justice associate

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grant

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foreign program local association fiscal

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year 2022 35 acc

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again this submarine

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open source station that they basically

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give us a dollar amount here on that we

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have to

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basically work out the numbers from the

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district during that let's be sure

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the city police department and the

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district attorney's office we have a

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series of meetings and discussions on on

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this topic every year um and this year

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what we like to buy is for enforcement

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purposes is as a new motorcycle i know

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it sounds kind of off off the chart a

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little bit different but our

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presently we have two highly different

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motorcycles that were purchased

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in some years in government they're

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okay for training but they're not

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necessarily paid for enforcement so um

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traffic division i included our

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application there which it explains kind

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of in detail how that will be used and

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so forth we're going to answer any

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questions i just want to

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do later if you haven't read it but just

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um if you have any questions along those

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lines again with the split the rant with

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the da's office so we each get 24 390

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any questions or comments actually on

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the questions has nothing to do with

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this grant at all

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it's something i've been thinking about

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for a while and curious whatever

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happened to the horses

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there are some parts

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we have to certify our officers you know

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every so often to get new officers in

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there um it's just the age we've been

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putting some money into them and they're

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just starting to get up um

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older i mean they're still they're still

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valuable i'm not considered but it just

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won't sink the newer ones we'd like to

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keep just particularly for um

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control reasons and stuff like that for

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training purposes so we'll take the old

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ones into the training okay so the ones

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are there you just use those for

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training and the new ones you would use

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yeah we could use them if we had to have

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an event like downtown sometimes bigger

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against downtown like that

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we moved to christmas parade yeah it's

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nice to meet you throughout the crowd

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and we used them

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[Music]

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all right moving on to the second item

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police traffic services program grant

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new york state governors traffic safety

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committee by accident

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again new york state uh traffic safety

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committee gtsc and this is for 43 976.

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this one here i included the budget on

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it

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it's really used for enforcement seat

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belt usages aggressive drivers

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kind of accident high accident areas

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there are certain events throughout the

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year at the state um that request that

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we participate in this funding will pay

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for some of those parts to know when we

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participate

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against yearly grant formless

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it's not applied force kind of given to

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the city

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any questions or comments

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so the prince only went to 43.9 so how

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much

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enforcement like

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that's because you know that's the last

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fourth place up right right it's hard to

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figure out the average cost of free

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sales for an overtime generator

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i think there's two or three thousand

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dollars um for other than personal um

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plus something by equipment like vests

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you know that's that this can be seen at

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nighttime or different types of

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senses or something along those lines um

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i don't have a raw answer for you know

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that again it depends

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what the officer's pay grade is and

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who's working it and so forth generally

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speaking we use our traffic division

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officers they get kind of first priority

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of some of these because they're well

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versed and well trained in that area and

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so they're generally at a full-scale pay

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so i can i can

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do the math and shoot you an estimate of

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how many hours yeah okay and otherwise i

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look at last year's and seminars we

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actually used to try these yes

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absolutely thank you very much any other

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questions or comments

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do not answer motion

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second favorite hi

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moving on to the next item which is

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pedestrian bike and automobile crash

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education grant and state governor's

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traffic safety committee

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there used to be some report this hard i

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just want to put that out there

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these pants now they're putting live and

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summertime so i do apologize for all

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these others on there but this one here

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is again one of the government traffic

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safety committees it's thirty one

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thousand one hundred fifty

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dedicated highway safety programs but

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for pedestrian uh like other crashes

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that are again sometimes there's some

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issues that the state puts on that we

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would um

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participate in and

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again

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use that as funding for those programs

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as well as our own issues

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so it's similar to the last lesson

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uh again any questions or comments

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i'll move it second all those in favor

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bye

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and the last item is um

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accident officer safety plan by acc here

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okay

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[Music]

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this is something

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that the president counsel receives a

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01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,480
presentation on

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about a month ago

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i think council president or the mayor

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often we have to be faced

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with part of the plan um but they they

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came back with a proposal um this is

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01:11:18,480 --> 01:11:20,239
really for discussion purposes um

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teacher clifford's out of town tonight

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01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:23,920
shouldn't be here it's more or less for

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discussion purposes um they gave us a

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proposal at the time office of

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everything they

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spoke about a month ago

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we wanted to have a hard copy in case

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there's you know want to make notes and

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01:11:33,600 --> 01:11:35,760
so forth again we send it to you i can

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answer a lot of questions but

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we

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as a department research other funding

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01:11:41,440 --> 01:11:43,360
opportunities that we have for this this

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program itself um the contractor

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organized a 10-year contract we do a

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five-year contract because there's a

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caveat in here that says that um if

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funding is not if the council does not

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fund it it murder that quarter we can

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get out of contract so it's kind of like

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a safety net if you would with that said

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though um i have to present this formula

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in a couple weeks or months that we had

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for it but we do feel it we can cover

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costs for the first couple years now

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01:12:05,600 --> 01:12:07,199
there might be other grandmothers

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after that and we we just can't

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01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,040
say that right now so we can't obligate

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01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:13,360
anybody's past the next couple years but

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01:12:13,360 --> 01:12:14,800
we do have money for this of yourself to

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pay for it obviously for additional

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01:12:16,719 --> 01:12:17,920
grants and other

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funding streams that we have but would

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be a commitment on the city's behalf

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01:12:21,760 --> 01:12:22,719
sort of

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01:12:22,719 --> 01:12:24,480
you know joining for a 10-year program

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01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:26,400
again if there's financial struggles or

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01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:28,560
there's a catch-all come in and i can

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01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:30,480
refer to a legal on that but a place

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01:12:30,480 --> 01:12:32,480
that's strong enough to support anything

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01:12:32,480 --> 01:12:34,239
that something happens down the road

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01:12:34,239 --> 01:12:35,920
that we couldn't finish it as a city

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01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,360
financially supported

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there's a lot of a lot of moving parts

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to this this whole plan

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it's an officer safety plan that we

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01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:44,640
spoke about who's the tasers body

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cameras virtual reality training um the

579
01:12:47,520 --> 01:12:50,000
storage of such which is big and and to

580
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:51,840
share your data on

581
01:12:51,840 --> 01:12:53,760
this on it holding car video system as

582
01:12:53,760 --> 01:12:54,560
well

583
01:12:54,560 --> 01:12:56,480
this is kind of a

584
01:12:56,480 --> 01:12:58,400
soup to nuts as far as everything's

585
01:12:58,400 --> 01:13:01,280
included on the planet

586
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:02,960
again i can answer hopefully any

587
01:13:02,960 --> 01:13:04,560
questions you have that's it's not

588
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:05,600
answers

589
01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,630
any questions or comments

590
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:11,360
yes the torah oh yeah um so if you'd be

591
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:13,120
interested in the whole package yes

592
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:14,800
absolutely

593
01:13:14,800 --> 01:13:16,880
we're recommending this

594
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:19,520
and each officer would have a taser gun

595
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,320
yeah steering trophy

596
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,080
uniform yes okay

597
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:26,640
it's mainly and each everybody has

598
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,400
a body camera they have extra body

599
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:30,159
cameras some extra pretty detectives not

600
01:13:30,159 --> 01:13:45,350
every detective but they

601
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:48,480
so and what's also with this um within

602
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:49,520
the plan

603
01:13:49,520 --> 01:13:51,040
it refreshes our equipment every so

604
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:52,640
often like i know the body cameras that

605
01:13:52,640 --> 01:13:53,679
waves every

606
01:13:53,679 --> 01:13:55,440
three years or three and a half years so

607
01:13:55,440 --> 01:13:56,880
then we get new body cameras what's nice

608
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:57,840
about that you're getting the latest

609
01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,000
technology so even though we're spending

610
01:14:00,000 --> 01:14:01,600
some money

611
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:03,760
we have to like our body cameras now are

612
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:05,199
three and four years old they're kind of

613
01:14:05,199 --> 01:14:06,960
the end of life so we have to come up

614
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:08,560
with some kind of uh

615
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,800
replacement for them um and this is kind

616
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:11,440
of

617
01:14:11,440 --> 01:14:13,040
just that phase of it but in this

618
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:15,040
program they they finish them every so

619
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:17,120
much off i think we get three upgrades

620
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:21,189
with this 10-year plan

621
01:14:21,199 --> 01:14:22,000
and

622
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,520
there's a significant discount that

623
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:26,000
they're giving us as well by by bundling

624
01:14:26,000 --> 01:14:28,239
all these services i think i saw that i

625
01:14:28,239 --> 01:14:31,199
can't i feel like it was like two million

626
01:14:31,199 --> 01:14:32,560
dollars or something yeah the math is

627
01:14:32,560 --> 01:14:34,080
all there i don't have the raw number

628
01:14:34,080 --> 01:14:35,760
top of my head right now but yes there's

629
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,360
a big one it's really kind of what has

630
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:39,120
to do with um

631
01:14:39,120 --> 01:14:41,199
going from five years to 10-year plan

632
01:14:41,199 --> 01:14:44,159
so they they did offer a quick incentive

633
01:14:44,159 --> 01:14:45,840
that was a 10-year plan i think it was a

634
01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:48,709
big incentive

635
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:50,960
mr pardon yeah so that that was going to

636
01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:52,719
be my question he was going to say so

637
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:55,120
that was the five so going into the

638
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:56,400
10-year

639
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,480
contract um will give us some

640
01:14:58,480 --> 01:15:00,000
significant cost savings over the

641
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,960
five-year contract correct correct the

642
01:15:02,960 --> 01:15:05,199
monthly cost again i can tell these

643
01:15:05,199 --> 01:15:06,960
numbers for you have any questions

644
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,400
with the answers for them but yes there

645
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:10,560
is and and there you'll see they should

646
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:11,920
see four packets in there that they

647
01:15:11,920 --> 01:15:13,360
haven't been doing it yet but one is

648
01:15:13,360 --> 01:15:17,280
just by axon it's kind of they're what the whole program is about

649
01:15:17,280 --> 01:15:19,520
um then there's broken down to um in-car

650
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:21,280
video systems and the cost of associated

651
01:15:21,280 --> 01:15:22,640
oh i'm sorry the interview rooms are in

652
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:24,880
there also so the interview rooms which

653
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:26,320
we have eight rooms in the department

654
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:27,760
they'd all be covered in there they

655
01:15:27,760 --> 01:15:31,360
would have um the body cameras um

656
01:15:31,360 --> 01:15:33,040
the body camera in their energy room

657
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:34,159
separate

658
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:35,679
um that the

659
01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:37,360
car radio system separate and then you

660
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:39,120
have the body cameras and the taser

661
01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,560
doesn't form

662
01:15:40,560 --> 01:15:42,560
so that's that's one package and then

663
01:15:42,560 --> 01:15:44,239
when you see on the charts again i don't

664
01:15:44,239 --> 01:15:46,239
notice i've read it but there's a

665
01:15:46,239 --> 01:15:47,679
savings you'll see this they actually

666
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:49,520
put what the savings would be over the

667
01:15:49,520 --> 01:15:52,480
course of the 10 year programs and what

668
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:53,199
so

669
01:15:53,199 --> 01:15:56,400
with the body cams that we have now um

670
01:15:56,400 --> 01:15:57,520
is that the

671
01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:00,000
what what was the uh

672
01:16:00,000 --> 01:16:01,920
the lifetime of that contract that we're

673
01:16:01,920 --> 01:16:03,440
currently it wasn't really a contract we

674
01:16:03,440 --> 01:16:04,880
bought those all right we did them in

675
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,480
funding so we brought them out right um

676
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,719
we also house it on an in-house server

677
01:16:08,719 --> 01:16:10,880
it's not this will be a cloud-based

678
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:11,840
network

679
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:13,120
what this system does is it ties

680
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:14,080
everything in so if you have an

681
01:16:14,080 --> 01:16:15,760
interview or an interview room um that

682
01:16:15,760 --> 01:16:17,120
also gets linked by the camera which

683
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:18,960
just linked to the in-car video system

684
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,560
which gets linked to your taser if you

685
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:22,320
use it so it's kind of i think they call

686
01:16:22,320 --> 01:16:24,000
it the officer safety program and what

687
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:25,679
happens is it you know puts them all

688
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:27,840
together um with the body cameras we

689
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:30,000
have now we actually just received a

690
01:16:30,000 --> 01:16:32,560
grant this year to to

691
01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,480
upgrade some buy additional cameras and

692
01:16:34,480 --> 01:16:36,000
stuff that but we could use that some of

693
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:37,360
the money i was talking about before to

694
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:41,760
fund this program but it's um those were bought um we didn't have a

695
01:16:41,760 --> 01:16:44,239
fight we didn't want to do a

696
01:16:44,239 --> 01:16:46,320
police divide technique panasonic i'm

697
01:16:46,320 --> 01:16:47,520
not sure that's what we had now

698
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:49,120
panasonic i'm not sure if they had it

699
01:16:49,120 --> 01:16:50,640
back then um

700
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:52,560
we

701
01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:55,280
five years ago we did um check on axon

702
01:16:55,280 --> 01:16:57,440
you know we had um we did demo their

703
01:16:57,440 --> 01:16:59,520
product and very good product but those

704
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,360
will cost since then they've come up

705
01:17:01,360 --> 01:17:02,880
with the development this this

706
01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:05,520
consolidated plan for better work and it

707
01:17:05,520 --> 01:17:06,800
just kind of impresses us there's not

708
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,239
that many out there that have some deals

709
01:17:08,239 --> 01:17:10,000
with other ones that do but they don't

710
01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:11,520
you know they kind of

711
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,120
bundle it in such a way a lot of

712
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:14,560
agencies are going to just because it

713
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,560
simplifies it and what the demand on

714
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:19,440
right now for uh discovery rules um our

715
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:21,280
turn on time it's it's you know this is

716
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:23,040
hopefully we

717
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:24,719
got into the redaction part of it just

718
01:17:24,719 --> 01:17:25,920
to try some stuff and there's a lot of

719
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:28,000
redaction what happens is it just all

720
01:17:28,000 --> 01:17:29,360
gets bundled together so we don't have

721
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:31,120
to spend the time to kind of put it all

722
01:17:31,120 --> 01:17:33,660
together so just um

723
01:17:33,660 --> 01:17:38,709
[Music]

724
01:17:38,719 --> 01:17:40,159
again i think when you saw the

725
01:17:40,159 --> 01:17:41,760
demonstration

726
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,080
a couple of months ago it was i think

727
01:17:44,080 --> 01:17:45,600
that that really stood out for me that

728
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:48,000
now we'd be having all of these services

729
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:49,440
under one

730
01:17:49,440 --> 01:17:51,120
excuse me under one umbrella so that

731
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,400
everything was interconnected with

732
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,719
everything else um so i think it makes

733
01:17:56,719 --> 01:18:00,159
it um more efficient as well in terms of

734
01:18:00,159 --> 01:18:01,520
the officers

735
01:18:01,520 --> 01:18:02,880
work

736
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:05,120
in terms of what they have to do

737
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,120
even in the reporting stages that kind

738
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,760
of thing so i liked that idea that this

739
01:18:09,760 --> 01:18:13,280
was you know everything uh yeah even

740
01:18:13,280 --> 01:18:14,159
when we

741
01:18:14,159 --> 01:18:16,080
upload we have photos with corporation

742
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,080
council we have you know the discovery

743
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,760
with the da's office we have to send

744
01:18:19,760 --> 01:18:21,120
stuff to the public defender's office

745
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,040
this will link everybody up also on the

746
01:18:23,040 --> 01:18:24,239
back end that so it makes it a little

747
01:18:24,239 --> 01:18:27,120
more efficient

748
01:18:27,120 --> 01:18:30,080
thank you mr chairman uh chief

749
01:18:30,080 --> 01:18:32,480
this is a five-year deal with a

750
01:18:32,480 --> 01:18:35,679
five-year option exactly yeah i had

751
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:38,480
asked chief clinton to put that in

752
01:18:38,480 --> 01:18:41,199
uh so we're getting the 10-year pricing

753
01:18:41,199 --> 01:18:44,400
but five years out uh again when we

754
01:18:44,400 --> 01:18:46,159
bought the panasonic

755
01:18:46,159 --> 01:18:49,280
body cameras they were the best exxon

756
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,280
now is

757
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:52,320
uh

758
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,880
not one of the is probably the leader in

759
01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:56,719
the market so

760
01:18:56,719 --> 01:18:58,320
the state police are going to that

761
01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:00,719
platform i think the city of albany is

762
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:07,350
there new york

763
01:19:07,360 --> 01:19:10,400
uh city so there's compatibility

764
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:11,280
uh

765
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:14,239
with other agencies

766
01:19:14,239 --> 01:19:15,240
but again it gives us

767
01:19:15,240 --> 01:19:16,400
[Music]

768
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:18,880
an option to get out and there is the

769
01:19:18,880 --> 01:19:21,679
basic option if the council chose not to

770
01:19:21,679 --> 01:19:25,040
fund it in any given year

771
01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:28,000
we could terminate it the reality

772
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:29,760
once you lock into this you're going to

773
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,719
have to do it for a period of time for

774
01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:36,000
the record management and uh the

775
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:38,239
equipment deal is

776
01:19:38,239 --> 01:19:39,440
very good in this one they're going to

777
01:19:39,440 --> 01:19:41,520
give us the upgrades

778
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:44,239
a lot of this is done remote now so that

779
01:19:44,239 --> 01:19:47,120
it's not like somebody on site

780
01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:48,880
but it will uh

781
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:51,280
again complement some of the police

782
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:52,960
reforms we're doing

783
01:19:52,960 --> 01:19:55,679
just public

784
01:19:55,679 --> 01:19:57,040
engagement

785
01:19:57,040 --> 01:19:58,960
with information to be able to turn it

786
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,520
around in a relatively quick period of

787
01:20:01,520 --> 01:20:05,280
time and have it standardized so that

788
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:07,040
today there's still some

789
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:07,760
uh

790
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,000
focus focus of moving from one platform

791
01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,159
to another platform depending on which

792
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:16,470
equipment that we're using or not using

793
01:20:16,480 --> 01:20:17,920
so at least for me i definitely

794
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,360
appreciate you coming up here and giving

795
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:20,000
us

796
01:20:20,000 --> 01:20:21,760
these full in-depth briefings i think

797
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,520
whenever i hear new and shiny thing i'm

798
01:20:23,520 --> 01:20:24,800
always trying to find what's hidden in

799
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:27,040
the closet and uh

800
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:28,800
i think it's definitely a

801
01:20:28,800 --> 01:20:30,159
selling point to know that a lot of the

802
01:20:30,159 --> 01:20:31,600
other municipalities are switching this

803
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,920
platform but i do appreciate having the

804
01:20:33,920 --> 01:20:35,600
option to kind of

805
01:20:35,600 --> 01:20:37,199
grade and see if this meets our

806
01:20:37,199 --> 01:20:39,280
functionality within the city before

807
01:20:39,280 --> 01:20:40,960
jumping down and finding the new

808
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,400
panasonic which i think we all don't

809
01:20:42,400 --> 01:20:43,760
want to be

810
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:45,600
so what i would be excited to see is

811
01:20:45,600 --> 01:20:47,760
just how you're anticipating this new

812
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:49,040
these new features

813
01:20:49,040 --> 01:20:50,800
uh adapting into your standard operating

814
01:20:50,800 --> 01:20:52,480
procedures so you guys gotten into how

815
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:54,800
you're going to evolve or update yes yes

816
01:20:54,800 --> 01:20:56,480
i mean we do all this now just on

817
01:20:56,480 --> 01:20:58,080
different systems so it's a really

818
01:20:58,080 --> 01:21:00,639
transition shouldn't be too bad um as

819
01:21:00,639 --> 01:21:02,400
america's slightest several cities that

820
01:21:02,400 --> 01:21:03,679
have it we've actually reached out to

821
01:21:03,679 --> 01:21:05,440
them and had conversations with them and

822
01:21:05,440 --> 01:21:07,440
make sure that we can evolve into this

823
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:10,400
they have become the leader of the whole

824
01:21:10,400 --> 01:21:11,760
technology they're kind of going way

825
01:21:11,760 --> 01:21:13,440
above and beyond they're even starting

826
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:15,520
to get into a cad system an rms system

827
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:18,639
which is record management and

828
01:21:18,639 --> 01:21:19,679
dispatch you're not there yet but

829
01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:21,360
they're they have it on their in their

830
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:24,000
incubator type of programs um so they're

831
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:26,400
kind of just leading the forefront um

832
01:21:26,400 --> 01:21:27,760
sometimes until you pull the switch you

833
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:29,760
don't know because we have some growing

834
01:21:29,760 --> 01:21:31,280
pains with panasonic it's just mostly

835
01:21:31,280 --> 01:21:33,280
the downloading of it uh electronically

836
01:21:33,280 --> 01:21:34,639
we have antennas working with john

837
01:21:34,639 --> 01:21:36,719
puccio and his crew within the city that

838
01:21:36,719 --> 01:21:38,639
you know now when we get within a couple

839
01:21:38,639 --> 01:21:39,679
blocks of the police department it

840
01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:41,679
starts to download and eventually

841
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:42,719
throughout the city it's going to you

842
01:21:42,719 --> 01:21:45,199
know do that same type of thing so um

843
01:21:45,199 --> 01:21:46,800
we've come a long way where we are the

844
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,400
panasonic system i'm not going to say is

845
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,639
a failure but they don't have that they

846
01:21:50,639 --> 01:21:52,159
don't have all the fingers this has to

847
01:21:52,159 --> 01:21:54,080
go together and so that's why we're kind

848
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:55,199
of um

849
01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:57,120
excited about it again i can't sit here

850
01:21:57,120 --> 01:21:58,560
and tell you that we hit that switch

851
01:21:58,560 --> 01:21:59,920
it's going to be perfect

852
01:21:59,920 --> 01:22:02,000
but they have proven it in so many other

853
01:22:02,000 --> 01:22:04,320
areas that that

854
01:22:04,320 --> 01:22:06,320
is kind of improving to us

855
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,000
and i'm not an i.t person other than i

856
01:22:08,000 --> 01:22:09,040
know there's a button you press and it

857
01:22:09,040 --> 01:22:11,679
goes on i know the button goes up

858
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:14,080
all right mr carl yeah so um coming to

859
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:15,360
the mayor's point i was wondering like

860
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:16,320
um

861
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,600
something that was

862
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:18,400
really

863
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:20,560
uh stood out to me last time you

864
01:22:20,560 --> 01:22:22,400
discussed this was like the cloud and

865
01:22:22,400 --> 01:22:24,719
the ability to kind of prevent storage

866
01:22:24,719 --> 01:22:27,280
space and then you know so my question

867
01:22:27,280 --> 01:22:28,159
then

868
01:22:28,159 --> 01:22:30,159
and kind of is again like well i guess i

869
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,719
think this two-part question like

870
01:22:32,719 --> 01:22:35,280
having that cloud storage space but i

871
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:37,600
would imagine make it um

872
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:39,120
doable for

873
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:41,600
officers to have their body cam on for

874
01:22:41,600 --> 01:22:44,639
the entirety of chefs and like my

875
01:22:44,639 --> 01:22:47,760
second i guess question is like

876
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:50,159
around the police reform could you kind

877
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:51,920
of talk a little bit about how

878
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:52,960
does this

879
01:22:52,960 --> 01:22:55,040
increase transparency

880
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:57,760
and um how does it align with uh the

881
01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,840
police reform that um

882
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:01,360
i i still don't think you're gonna have

883
01:23:01,360 --> 01:23:03,600
the battery life

884
01:23:03,600 --> 01:23:04,719
because there's still a battery life of

885
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:05,920
the camera it's not that way for the

886
01:23:05,920 --> 01:23:07,760
cloud it's not the uploading it's about

887
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:08,960
so i don't think you'd be able to have

888
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,880
it on all day on nor

889
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:12,080
would i recommend that because that's

890
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:14,239
not a lot not on an officer walk around

891
01:23:14,239 --> 01:23:16,080
but constantly not but that's a whole

892
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:25,840
different discussion um

893
01:23:25,850 --> 01:23:32,709
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894
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:34,800
easier to uh grab that information and

895
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:37,280
be transparent um the writing of our

896
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:38,880
policies now and

897
01:23:38,880 --> 01:23:40,880
our procedures is a lot of us geared

898
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,120
around police reforms and in several

899
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:44,400
ways that you might not see but it's

900
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,560
just to you know have the transparency

901
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:48,320
if something goes on we're doing a lot

902
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:50,000
of more human engagement and trying to

903
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,719
sell that okay we have no problem we

904
01:23:52,719 --> 01:23:54,960
ourselves endorse all this technology we

905
01:23:54,960 --> 01:23:57,040
want it actually you know

906
01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,199
nine times or probably 97 times out of

907
01:23:59,199 --> 01:24:00,880
100 you know protects them there are a

908
01:24:00,880 --> 01:24:03,360
few times it bites them too so you know

909
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:05,440
but that's the part of the system so um

910
01:24:05,440 --> 01:24:06,960
like without getting to

911
01:24:06,960 --> 01:24:08,960
i can't right off the top i had specific

912
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:10,880
reforms that we're talking about that we

913
01:24:10,880 --> 01:24:14,320
could um i could say this is this

914
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:16,159
goes into it but it might change some

915
01:24:16,159 --> 01:24:18,960
internal policies as well

916
01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:20,960
yeah just our operational policies

917
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:21,760
again

918
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:23,440
when we first created body cameras we

919
01:24:23,440 --> 01:24:25,679
had a steering committee for our policy

920
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:27,120
and it was it was

921
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:28,480
a lot of community members i'm not sure

922
01:24:28,480 --> 01:24:35,510
if anybody from

923
01:24:35,520 --> 01:24:37,760
at the time and then um but we had a

924
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:40,320
broad range from clergy to i mean it was

925
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:41,600
kind of very dynamic da's office

926
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,480
obviously and other members of

927
01:24:44,480 --> 01:24:46,000
there's like 20 people and there are 25

928
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,920
people so you know we just we didn't

929
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,600
overload it with one particular section

930
01:24:49,600 --> 01:24:51,520
you know pva was there so and that's how

931
01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:53,840
we design our policy doesn't mean

932
01:24:53,840 --> 01:24:55,360
we don't constantly you know look at

933
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:57,120
revamp and make it better um but there's

934
01:24:57,120 --> 01:24:58,320
something that happens out there that we

935
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,880
want to you know do it so

936
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:02,400
it's constantly it's it's i want to say

937
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:03,840
it's a fluid

938
01:25:03,840 --> 01:25:06,480
policy because it is a policy in stone

939
01:25:06,480 --> 01:25:07,840
but doesn't mean we can't change that

940
01:25:07,840 --> 01:25:10,320
moment's notice and not to get off the

941
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,639
topic but the way we we have like a

942
01:25:12,639 --> 01:25:14,400
whole system which is our policies now

943
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,159
all our policies are aligned all the

944
01:25:16,159 --> 01:25:19,199
benefits transparency if you would um to

945
01:25:19,199 --> 01:25:21,280
change a policy nowadays it's just so

946
01:25:21,280 --> 01:25:22,960
much easier than it was

947
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,880
five years ago and the reason i say that

948
01:25:24,880 --> 01:25:26,800
was the technology i have it on my phone

949
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,159
i've had it on my phone i could call any

950
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:29,600
policy at a time so if we want to make a

951
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,880
change we push it out within 24 48 hours

952
01:25:32,880 --> 01:25:34,480
all the officers have to accept it and

953
01:25:34,480 --> 01:25:36,000
then that change is known to the

954
01:25:36,000 --> 01:25:38,320
officers so it's just something a little

955
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,159
bit of course all these things are

956
01:25:40,159 --> 01:25:41,840
important to the whole makeup of the

957
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:47,430
police department our system

958
01:25:47,440 --> 01:25:50,400
so as assistant chief sieber said i was

959
01:25:50,400 --> 01:25:52,000
on the

960
01:25:52,000 --> 01:25:55,120
original body camera committee

961
01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:58,239
and the uh at the time panasonic was

962
01:25:58,239 --> 01:26:00,400
right up there as one of the leaders uh

963
01:26:00,400 --> 01:26:02,320
the evolution of the technology and what

964
01:26:02,320 --> 01:26:03,760
exxon's done

965
01:26:03,760 --> 01:26:04,639
is

966
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:06,639
leaps and bounds and the ecosystem

967
01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:09,760
they're creating

968
01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:11,840
really creates a system where

969
01:26:11,840 --> 01:26:13,760
it's going to be so much more efficient

970
01:26:13,760 --> 01:26:15,120
and to your

971
01:26:15,120 --> 01:26:16,800
point about the

972
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:18,560
video downloads and

973
01:26:18,560 --> 01:26:19,600
such

974
01:26:19,600 --> 01:26:21,120
one of the big

975
01:26:21,120 --> 01:26:23,199
issues that we were concerned about at

976
01:26:23,199 --> 01:26:24,400
the time

977
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,040
was the downloading in the servers and

978
01:26:27,040 --> 01:26:29,600
the servers are very expensive so much

979
01:26:29,600 --> 01:26:31,760
so that we actually tried to get some

980
01:26:31,760 --> 01:26:33,520
money from the state

981
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:36,480
to to really deal with that issue and

982
01:26:36,480 --> 01:26:38,719
now with being in the cloud and

983
01:26:38,719 --> 01:26:40,719
unlimited we don't have to worry about

984
01:26:40,719 --> 01:26:42,719
that so before it wasn't unlimited five

985
01:26:42,719 --> 01:26:44,880
years ago we did all this it wasn't so

986
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:46,480
super expensive i'm not saying it's not

987
01:26:46,480 --> 01:26:48,320
as cheap now but

988
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:50,000
five years ago it's been more it is

989
01:26:50,000 --> 01:26:51,760
today so the prices actually dropped and

990
01:26:51,760 --> 01:26:52,800
we actually anticipated dropping a

991
01:26:52,800 --> 01:26:53,679
little more because they get more

992
01:26:53,679 --> 01:26:55,840
efficient with the cloud um we wanted

993
01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,920
the server unconsciously so because we

994
01:26:57,920 --> 01:26:59,600
want to keep it all in-house and and

995
01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:01,760
have control and not have to pay the

996
01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:03,920
annual cost but now

997
01:27:03,920 --> 01:27:05,520
there's so much out there from

998
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:07,199
overwhelming management standpoint to

999
01:27:07,199 --> 01:27:08,960
kind of you know massage it all together

1000
01:27:08,960 --> 01:27:11,120
get it to the right place back it up on

1001
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,120
the server we do spend money every year

1002
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:14,639
upgrading our servers you know to add

1003
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:17,120
more memory on it um so of course i'll

1004
01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,150
be terrified for upstairs

1005
01:27:19,150 --> 01:27:21,920
[Music]

1006
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:26,149
i just want to sing that uh

1007
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:28,000
it's working

1008
01:27:28,000 --> 01:27:29,040
good

1009
01:27:29,040 --> 01:27:31,840
so you say that you have a couple years

1010
01:27:31,840 --> 01:27:33,520
of money and so and you want to enter

1011
01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:35,440
into a five year with a possible five

1012
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:37,440
year renewal so at this point in time

1013
01:27:37,440 --> 01:27:39,280
you're asking the council to

1014
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,560
review this or uh or approve this

1015
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:43,360
yeah

1016
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:44,840
again we'd like to come back in two

1017
01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:46,000
weeks we're gonna

1018
01:27:46,000 --> 01:27:49,280
apologize it's gonna be here time but we're gonna kind of absorb this

1019
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,360
because this is a big big lift and what

1020
01:27:51,360 --> 01:27:53,679
happens is um yes we have money that

1021
01:27:53,679 --> 01:27:55,440
some of the money we feel has already

1022
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:58,080
been improved and i i say that um

1023
01:27:58,080 --> 01:28:04,400
because through some capital projects we did some funding for certain uh and our camera stuff better and our

1024
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,120
cameras too um

1025
01:28:07,120 --> 01:28:10,560
other funding sources da's office we got some monies

1026
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:11,280
from

1027
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:12,480
seizure account whatever they gave us

1028
01:28:12,480 --> 01:28:13,440
last year

1029
01:28:13,440 --> 01:28:15,199
for our interview rooms and we have

1030
01:28:15,199 --> 01:28:16,639
those and i can explain this in two

1031
01:28:16,639 --> 01:28:18,960
weeks if we wish and kind of break it

1032
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,719
down to wherever this money's coming

1033
01:28:20,719 --> 01:28:21,520
from

1034
01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:23,280
however it's just going forward after

1035
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:25,600
that that right now we don't have the

1036
01:28:25,600 --> 01:28:27,120
money so just um

1037
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:29,520
just trying to be transparent

1038
01:28:29,520 --> 01:28:32,320
i'm not like my kids my kid come on dad

1039
01:28:32,320 --> 01:28:34,880
come back next day one more

1040
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:36,719
thank you mr mayor

1041
01:28:36,719 --> 01:28:38,719
just want to go back to the storage

1042
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:41,360
component of this again uh going back

1043
01:28:41,360 --> 01:28:43,920
when the first providing cameras in

1044
01:28:43,920 --> 01:28:47,199
the business model from suppliers were

1045
01:28:47,199 --> 01:28:48,880
to

1046
01:28:48,880 --> 01:28:51,040
discount the hardware a little bit but

1047
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:54,840
they encourage people to use their cloud

1048
01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:56,800
storage and

1049
01:28:56,800 --> 01:28:58,639
it's the nature of this where we're just

1050
01:28:58,639 --> 01:29:01,520
recording more video more audio

1051
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,719
more evidence is going in it and so

1052
01:29:04,719 --> 01:29:06,080
the cost

1053
01:29:06,080 --> 01:29:07,520
went up dramatically a lot of

1054
01:29:07,520 --> 01:29:09,920
municipalities put body cameras in that

1055
01:29:09,920 --> 01:29:11,679
was a good idea it was all great when

1056
01:29:11,679 --> 01:29:13,760
they got hit with the actual storage

1057
01:29:13,760 --> 01:29:17,600
fees there was some sticker shot we

1058
01:29:17,600 --> 01:29:20,480
did that internally and managed it

1059
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:21,760
again

1060
01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:24,270
i think fairly successful

1061
01:29:24,270 --> 01:29:25,679
[Music]

1062
01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:28,239
the business model is shifting now where

1063
01:29:28,239 --> 01:29:31,120
the cloud storage is becoming

1064
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:33,360
cheaper and there's more vendors in the

1065
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:34,960
market which keep

1066
01:29:34,960 --> 01:29:37,040
the overall cost down

1067
01:29:37,040 --> 01:29:38,880
it's one thing i like about this

1068
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:40,480
is the long term

1069
01:29:40,480 --> 01:29:42,080
contract price

1070
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:43,679
that

1071
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:45,360
pretty much guarantees us what the

1072
01:29:45,360 --> 01:29:47,199
number is going to be

1073
01:29:47,199 --> 01:29:50,000
even though i will tell you today

1074
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:51,600
no matter what the chief says or anybody

1075
01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:53,360
else and how much data that we're going

1076
01:29:53,360 --> 01:29:55,520
to have

1077
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:57,760
going out two years three years five

1078
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,520
years i just know that number's going to

1079
01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:02,000
be bigger than whatever we think today

1080
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:04,159
it's just the nature of the business

1081
01:30:04,159 --> 01:30:05,760
whether it's policing whether it's

1082
01:30:05,760 --> 01:30:07,120
firefighting whether it's code

1083
01:30:07,120 --> 01:30:09,199
enforcement

1084
01:30:09,199 --> 01:30:11,280
it's the way computer technology is the

1085
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:15,120
way the information is generated so that

1086
01:30:15,120 --> 01:30:16,400
gives us

1087
01:30:16,400 --> 01:30:19,600
a piece of mind in terms of

1088
01:30:19,600 --> 01:30:23,040
protecting our ability going forward

1089
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:25,600
the other aspect of is the overall total

1090
01:30:25,600 --> 01:30:26,560
cost

1091
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:28,639
i've gone over some of the

1092
01:30:28,639 --> 01:30:32,629
scenarios with chief clifford

1093
01:30:32,639 --> 01:30:35,600
there may be an option what exactly has

1094
01:30:35,600 --> 01:30:38,400
given us here is kind of a global price

1095
01:30:38,400 --> 01:30:39,600
for it

1096
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:40,320
now

1097
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,480
we may be able to pay

1098
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:44,880
a little bit more up front

1099
01:30:44,880 --> 01:30:46,960
and then they would give us

1100
01:30:46,960 --> 01:30:48,960
greater discounts

1101
01:30:48,960 --> 01:30:51,520
in some of the outer years

1102
01:30:51,520 --> 01:30:54,800
do we use some of the aarp or the arpa

1103
01:30:54,800 --> 01:30:57,600
money at the aarp that's committed to

1104
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,920
juan across the street

1105
01:30:59,920 --> 01:31:02,400
but there may be ways to get things so

1106
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,120
that it's again financially stable going

1107
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,159
forward

1108
01:31:06,159 --> 01:31:07,760
where again there's some things that

1109
01:31:07,760 --> 01:31:10,080
have been budgeted for this i want to

1110
01:31:10,080 --> 01:31:12,480
make sure in terms of sustainability

1111
01:31:12,480 --> 01:31:14,480
from the fiscal side that we're doing

1112
01:31:14,480 --> 01:31:16,480
things that are prudent and that are

1113
01:31:16,480 --> 01:31:18,560
being able to have reasonable

1114
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:20,800
expectations in terms of the overall

1115
01:31:20,800 --> 01:31:22,480
budget assumptions that we're going to

1116
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:23,360
have

1117
01:31:23,360 --> 01:31:26,239
going forward and i think some of this

1118
01:31:26,239 --> 01:31:29,679
will also improve the efficiency of the

1119
01:31:29,679 --> 01:31:32,480
officers in the field which there's

1120
01:31:32,480 --> 01:31:34,400
a savings on that even though sitting

1121
01:31:34,400 --> 01:31:36,480
here today you can't say is that a

1122
01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:38,000
thousand dollars is it a hundred

1123
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:40,800
thousand dollars there will be uh

1124
01:31:40,800 --> 01:31:43,360
efficiencies that we will get from the

1125
01:31:43,360 --> 01:31:46,639
implementation of this platform

1126
01:31:46,639 --> 01:31:47,920
and that's why

1127
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,199
look at this for two weeks and you know

1128
01:31:49,199 --> 01:31:51,520
as you go through it you may have ideas

1129
01:31:51,520 --> 01:31:53,199
saying well

1130
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:55,040
if we pay more for this up here do we

1131
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,760
lay the payment do we

1132
01:31:57,760 --> 01:31:59,040
do that that's what part of the

1133
01:31:59,040 --> 01:32:00,960
discussion we want

1134
01:32:00,960 --> 01:32:02,560
and one of the things that they're

1135
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:04,239
striking on is is the efficiencies of

1136
01:32:04,239 --> 01:32:05,600
the officer after every call they have

1137
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:07,920
to what they call tag or videos and they

1138
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:09,360
have so there's time consumptions here

1139
01:32:09,360 --> 01:32:11,679
by having all one product um the the

1140
01:32:11,679 --> 01:32:13,440
idea is it pre-populates a lot of the

1141
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,360
information not all there's still like

1142
01:32:15,360 --> 01:32:17,520
five different tag categories after tag

1143
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:19,760
but it probably cuts down the efficiency

1144
01:32:19,760 --> 01:32:21,440
would be you know just say

1145
01:32:21,440 --> 01:32:22,560
five minutes of call i'm not sure how

1146
01:32:22,560 --> 01:32:23,840
long you know but i'm just putting the

1147
01:32:23,840 --> 01:32:25,280
number out there but you know per call

1148
01:32:25,280 --> 01:32:27,679
980 000 calls there's some you know

1149
01:32:27,679 --> 01:32:31,440
there's some uh efficiency there yeah

1150
01:32:31,440 --> 01:32:33,360
again yes it's going to be front loaded

1151
01:32:33,360 --> 01:32:35,280
with funding um if you want and then

1152
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:37,360
it'd be a cheap residence hold on i also

1153
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:38,719
want to add that to have ourselves for

1154
01:32:38,719 --> 01:32:41,040
uh i'll be lobbying uh from budget time

1155
01:32:41,040 --> 01:32:42,320
but uh

1156
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:43,520
one of the big things that as we

1157
01:32:43,520 --> 01:32:46,159
prepared our budget this year and and is

1158
01:32:46,159 --> 01:32:48,480
the licensing fees and the agreements uh

1159
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:50,000
maintenance fees are just

1160
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,760
going up and up and up you know

1161
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:53,920
you basically raise technology but they

1162
01:32:53,920 --> 01:32:55,280
are going up so if we can lock in

1163
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,800
something at least since the normal

1164
01:32:56,800 --> 01:32:58,400
knowing the price

1165
01:32:58,400 --> 01:32:59,199
you know

1166
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:00,400
ten years

1167
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:01,760
well it knows for me if there are any

1168
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:03,360
other comments or questions uh having

1169
01:33:03,360 --> 01:33:05,440
the opportunity to deep dive for this i

1170
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:06,800
absolutely appreciate having chief

1171
01:33:06,800 --> 01:33:08,400
clifford here in another two weeks i

1172
01:33:08,400 --> 01:33:10,800
think it's a no-brainer that this is as

1173
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,800
mrs comey highlighted just like years

1174
01:33:12,800 --> 01:33:14,560
ahead of where we currently are so i

1175
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,120
look forward to um how this looks in

1176
01:33:17,120 --> 01:33:19,600
practicality here in the city um so

1177
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:21,040
thank you and if you wish i don't want

1178
01:33:21,040 --> 01:33:22,480
to offer them up but i did talk to chief

1179
01:33:22,480 --> 01:33:24,239
about that if you look like somebody

1180
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:25,760
from account here two weeks also that

1181
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:26,960
i'm sure they'd be willing to come out

1182
01:33:26,960 --> 01:33:29,199
and just talk again about it

1183
01:33:29,199 --> 01:33:35,189
as long as i don't get tased

1184
01:33:35,199 --> 01:33:36,639
any questions

1185
01:33:36,639 --> 01:33:38,639
do i have anything else on youtube but

1186
01:33:38,639 --> 01:33:40,239
um

1187
01:33:40,239 --> 01:33:41,920
all right thank you

1188
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:44,320
for two weeks thank you very much

1189
01:33:44,320 --> 01:33:46,800
and the last item will be

1190
01:33:46,800 --> 01:33:49,189
um

1191
01:33:49,199 --> 01:33:50,480
request state legislation for

1192
01:33:50,480 --> 01:33:51,679
enforcement of traffic control

1193
01:33:51,679 --> 01:33:53,920
violations on mr comey

1194
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:56,639
so first of all i need to uh thank mr

1195
01:33:56,639 --> 01:33:59,679
coleman for his invaluable uh help and

1196
01:33:59,679 --> 01:34:02,159
expertise in putting this together

1197
01:34:02,159 --> 01:34:04,000
i really do appreciate it so thank you

1198
01:34:04,000 --> 01:34:05,360
very much

1199
01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:07,920
so hormonal legislation is something

1200
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:10,159
that's necessary for

1201
01:34:10,159 --> 01:34:12,159
municipalities such as ourselves to use

1202
01:34:12,159 --> 01:34:14,239
some of the technologies that can be now

1203
01:34:14,239 --> 01:34:17,440
used to enforce some of the speeding

1204
01:34:17,440 --> 01:34:19,760
as well as noise violations

1205
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:22,159
in municipalities

1206
01:34:22,159 --> 01:34:24,560
it's kind of an antiquated system in

1207
01:34:24,560 --> 01:34:26,080
some ways

1208
01:34:26,080 --> 01:34:28,400
we know better than the state how we

1209
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:31,280
need to patrol and enforce some of the

1210
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:34,239
issues we have in our community and this

1211
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:37,120
asks for the state to expand

1212
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:40,320
the home rule law to

1213
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,480
allow us to implement these enforcement

1214
01:34:42,480 --> 01:34:45,360
tools and at the very least if they're

1215
01:34:45,360 --> 01:34:47,280
not going to do that allow us to do a

1216
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:49,119
demonstration program

1217
01:34:49,119 --> 01:34:52,000
which would allow us to do it as a pilot

1218
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:56,550
and show that this actually works

1219
01:34:56,560 --> 01:35:00,320
any questions or comments

1220
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:01,840
so this um

1221
01:35:01,840 --> 01:35:05,600
with this could be a stupid question but does

1222
01:35:05,600 --> 01:35:07,920
this um

1223
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:09,520
help us

1224
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,560
get rid of home rule in a broader sense

1225
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,760
or is it just specific to what we have

1226
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:17,840
because we talked about that a few weeks

1227
01:35:17,840 --> 01:35:19,040
ago

1228
01:35:19,040 --> 01:35:20,719
at one of these meetings

1229
01:35:20,719 --> 01:35:22,800
potentially would expand

1230
01:35:22,800 --> 01:35:25,440
the home rule aspect to

1231
01:35:25,440 --> 01:35:28,000
mr coleman correct me if i go wrong here

1232
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:30,480
of some of the enforcement tools for

1233
01:35:30,480 --> 01:35:32,800
like speeding and noise so it would

1234
01:35:32,800 --> 01:35:38,950
expand that aspect of the law

1235
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:42,719
any other questions or comments

1236
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:44,800
yes yes so are there like really

1237
01:35:44,800 --> 01:35:46,639
specifics that we're looking at i know

1238
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:48,560
you you said including but not limited

1239
01:35:48,560 --> 01:35:50,080
to so

1240
01:35:50,080 --> 01:35:52,320
um i just like to know like specifically

1241
01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:57,030
what we would be asking for in this case

1242
01:35:57,040 --> 01:35:58,639
it's right here where

1243
01:35:58,639 --> 01:35:59,920
uh

1244
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:01,440
section 10 of the new york state

1245
01:36:01,440 --> 01:36:03,840
municipal home rule law where it

1246
01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:07,119
pertains to cities towns and villages to

1247
01:36:07,119 --> 01:36:09,679
implement these enforcement tools

1248
01:36:09,679 --> 01:36:11,840
such as speed cameras red lights and

1249
01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:13,360
sound meters

1250
01:36:13,360 --> 01:36:14,320
and

1251
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:17,510
that's what we're looking for

1252
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,119
okay so

1253
01:36:19,119 --> 01:36:21,040
section 10 but everything's not listed

1254
01:36:21,040 --> 01:36:21,760
here

1255
01:36:21,760 --> 01:36:23,760
it would so if i looked in section 10 i

1256
01:36:23,760 --> 01:36:25,679
would find exactly everything it's

1257
01:36:25,679 --> 01:36:27,440
referring to

1258
01:36:27,440 --> 01:36:31,669
yeah okay

1259
01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:35,440
demonstration programs have been

1260
01:36:35,440 --> 01:36:38,080
permitted under state law so essentially

1261
01:36:38,080 --> 01:36:40,239
they have a demonstration program there

1262
01:36:40,239 --> 01:36:41,760
has to be special legislation at the

1263
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,719
state um to do that and they they've

1264
01:36:44,719 --> 01:36:46,159
done it the state has allowed it in

1265
01:36:46,159 --> 01:36:48,159
certain municipalities the problem with

1266
01:36:48,159 --> 01:36:49,840
the demonstration programs is just my

1267
01:36:49,840 --> 01:36:51,760
opinion obviously is that there's a

1268
01:36:51,760 --> 01:36:55,280
sunset provision in for those programs

1269
01:36:55,280 --> 01:36:56,080
so

1270
01:36:56,080 --> 01:36:58,159
if it's a five-year program

1271
01:36:58,159 --> 01:37:00,480
unless the state takes action to extend

1272
01:37:00,480 --> 01:37:01,440
it

1273
01:37:01,440 --> 01:37:03,119
eventually it ends it's just a

1274
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:05,119
demonstration program

1275
01:37:05,119 --> 01:37:07,760
so it doesn't go on you know for years

1276
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:09,199
and years and years

1277
01:37:09,199 --> 01:37:10,480
new york city is a little different

1278
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:12,800
because they do have

1279
01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:15,520
speed cameras and generally they've been

1280
01:37:15,520 --> 01:37:18,320
doing it in school zones

1281
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:19,920
right where people obviously exceed the

1282
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:21,840
speed limit obviously there's you know

1283
01:37:21,840 --> 01:37:23,199
public safety issues especially with

1284
01:37:23,199 --> 01:37:25,119
children being around families

1285
01:37:25,119 --> 01:37:26,239
um

1286
01:37:26,239 --> 01:37:28,400
my understanding from the way mr palawan

1287
01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,159
spoke with me about it this would be a

1288
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:31,920
bit more expansive

1289
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:33,360
in terms of obviously the red light

1290
01:37:33,360 --> 01:37:35,520
cameras but also

1291
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,360
speed cameras not just around schools

1292
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:40,960
but just in our city streets

1293
01:37:40,960 --> 01:37:43,440
again we need special legislation either

1294
01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:46,239
way here really to either amend homeless

1295
01:37:46,239 --> 01:37:49,520
law to disallow municipalities to

1296
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:50,960
implement these

1297
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:54,639
devices or very specific in creating a

1298
01:37:54,639 --> 01:37:56,400
demonstration program and vehicle and

1299
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,960
traffic law for the city it would be

1300
01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:01,040
city specific it wouldn't be for

1301
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:03,140
everyone

1302
01:38:03,140 --> 01:38:07,199
[Music]

1303
01:38:07,199 --> 01:38:10,400
thank you um i i think you know just in

1304
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:11,600
speaking to

1305
01:38:11,600 --> 01:38:14,000
you know and receiving comments from i

1306
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,440
mean we need to stand up and do

1307
01:38:15,440 --> 01:38:16,960
something about the noise and speeding

1308
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,400
and safety in the city so i commend john

1309
01:38:20,400 --> 01:38:24,709
for putting this together thank you

1310
01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:26,400
i feel the same way i mean i think that

1311
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:27,520
we've been

1312
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:28,639
trying to think about all these

1313
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:30,400
different traffic bombing

1314
01:38:30,400 --> 01:38:32,800
kinds of measures um i had to get that

1315
01:38:32,800 --> 01:38:33,840
in

1316
01:38:33,840 --> 01:38:35,600
my new language that i just learned in

1317
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:37,040
the process of

1318
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:39,040
speaking to residents and doing some

1319
01:38:39,040 --> 01:38:41,280
research around the speeding issue um i

1320
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:43,119
think that it's just been

1321
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:45,119
such a prevalent concern of so many

1322
01:38:45,119 --> 01:38:47,600
residents um people coming to council to

1323
01:38:47,600 --> 01:38:50,400
talk to us people emailing us calling us

1324
01:38:50,400 --> 01:38:52,239
uh you know

1325
01:38:52,239 --> 01:38:54,719
to talk about what are we going to do

1326
01:38:54,719 --> 01:38:57,920
about these traffic issues um that i

1327
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:00,400
definitely fully support this and thank

1328
01:39:00,400 --> 01:39:03,280
you for putting it together for us

1329
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,679
nice perfect and is what does the cost

1330
01:39:05,679 --> 01:39:07,600
associated with this uh do we know that

1331
01:39:07,600 --> 01:39:08,719
man

1332
01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:17,030
we're possibly asking for homework

1333
01:39:17,040 --> 01:39:18,480
in the red light cameras we don't

1334
01:39:18,480 --> 01:39:20,880
currently have them that's in the next

1335
01:39:20,880 --> 01:39:22,320
aspect

1336
01:39:22,320 --> 01:39:28,870
in finance committee that's in the next

1337
01:39:28,880 --> 01:39:31,360
we can't really do anything without this

1338
01:39:31,360 --> 01:39:33,040
piece

1339
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:34,719
so if i'm hearing correctly we need to

1340
01:39:34,719 --> 01:39:36,000
approve

1341
01:39:36,000 --> 01:39:38,080
making a demonstration and then the next

1342
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:38,960
committee

1343
01:39:38,960 --> 01:39:40,880
you identify the costs associated with

1344
01:39:40,880 --> 01:39:43,679
it no i'm asked we need the

1345
01:39:43,679 --> 01:39:47,199
legislation piece passed regardless

1346
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:51,679
the cost aspect is if you read the

1347
01:39:51,679 --> 01:39:54,320
aspect in terms of the noise violation

1348
01:39:54,320 --> 01:39:56,560
under the finance committee asked for

1349
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,880
costs to be associated in four

1350
01:39:58,880 --> 01:39:59,760
weeks

1351
01:39:59,760 --> 01:40:02,560
just because we get asked for and even

1352
01:40:02,560 --> 01:40:05,440
if we get home rule legislation changed

1353
01:40:05,440 --> 01:40:08,560
doesn't mean we have to do it

1354
01:40:08,560 --> 01:40:10,159
great no i remember that in the estimate

1355
01:40:10,159 --> 01:40:12,000
um i think continuing on with ms

1356
01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,800
porterfield's comment of enforcement

1357
01:40:14,800 --> 01:40:17,840
which you mentioned um how would

1358
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:19,760
this specifically lower

1359
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:22,480
as ms patrick mentioned ticketing

1360
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:24,560
but would there be a

1361
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:26,639
staffing expectation from the police to

1362
01:40:26,639 --> 01:40:28,639
help facilitate this

1363
01:40:28,639 --> 01:40:31,119
these are typically done automatically

1364
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:33,520
with the technology and sent out a

1365
01:40:33,520 --> 01:40:36,159
ticket and people get a moment that's

1366
01:40:36,159 --> 01:40:40,870
typically how it's done

1367
01:40:40,880 --> 01:40:43,440
just to touch base on that question

1368
01:40:43,440 --> 01:40:45,600
council person waves

1369
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:46,400
so

1370
01:40:46,400 --> 01:40:47,679
my understanding is with red light

1371
01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:50,800
cameras and with speed cameras a ticket

1372
01:40:50,800 --> 01:40:52,719
would be issued not to the driver but to

1373
01:40:52,719 --> 01:40:55,679
the registered owner of the vehicle

1374
01:40:55,679 --> 01:40:57,920
generally it's not considered a moving

1375
01:40:57,920 --> 01:40:59,360
violation because you're not actually

1376
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:00,400
catching

1377
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,440
the driver in the act you're catching

1378
01:41:03,440 --> 01:41:06,239
the registered owner who's apparently

1379
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:08,400
allowed somebody to drive

1380
01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:10,639
that's my understanding of it

1381
01:41:10,639 --> 01:41:13,199
i know maybe somebody may have gotten

1382
01:41:13,199 --> 01:41:14,800
caught in

1383
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:17,760
by a by a speed camera at some point in

1384
01:41:17,760 --> 01:41:19,440
um in time

1385
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:20,880
but it wouldn't have been points it

1386
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:23,040
would be just defined

1387
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:24,639
you know the camera's there the camera

1388
01:41:24,639 --> 01:41:25,600
catches

1389
01:41:25,600 --> 01:41:28,159
you know the vehicle in motion registers

1390
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:30,159
let's say it's a speed camera registers

1391
01:41:30,159 --> 01:41:33,199
to speed the vehicles going catches

1392
01:41:33,199 --> 01:41:35,679
you know a photo of the license plate

1393
01:41:35,679 --> 01:41:38,400
and then they run the license plate and

1394
01:41:38,400 --> 01:41:40,239
essentially issue the ticket against the

1395
01:41:40,239 --> 01:41:44,550
registered owner

1396
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,880
any other questions or comments and so

1397
01:41:46,880 --> 01:41:48,080
all the sorry

1398
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:49,600
and all the fines any fines that we

1399
01:41:49,600 --> 01:41:51,920
collect this this is a city that we

1400
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:53,840
collect fines the money comes to us it

1401
01:41:53,840 --> 01:41:55,679
would be the same as it would be with

1402
01:41:55,679 --> 01:41:59,360
other um violations like that yes

1403
01:41:59,360 --> 01:42:00,960
ticket and assuming the state

1404
01:42:00,960 --> 01:42:03,360
legislature adopted that

1405
01:42:03,360 --> 01:42:05,760
as they have with others

1406
01:42:05,760 --> 01:42:08,000
sometimes our friends in albany

1407
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,560
they saw a revenue source might

1408
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:13,040
take a little bit for themselves

1409
01:42:13,040 --> 01:42:17,669
that's possible

1410
01:42:17,679 --> 01:42:20,709
perhaps

1411
01:42:20,719 --> 01:42:22,560
any other questions or comments so are

1412
01:42:22,560 --> 01:42:24,719
we talking i'm sorry so we're talking

1413
01:42:24,719 --> 01:42:26,880
about actually the demonstration project

1414
01:42:26,880 --> 01:42:28,800
or or the actual asking for the home

1415
01:42:28,800 --> 01:42:29,679
rule

1416
01:42:29,679 --> 01:42:31,119
or asking yourself

1417
01:42:31,119 --> 01:42:33,760
if they don't do that

1418
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,320
all the things so you're asking both at

1419
01:42:36,320 --> 01:42:38,639
all at the same time so you're asking if

1420
01:42:38,639 --> 01:42:40,000
they would

1421
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:41,840
do the home rule and if not to do

1422
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:43,360
demonstrations at the very least the

1423
01:42:43,360 --> 01:42:45,440
demonstration project got it

1424
01:42:45,440 --> 01:42:47,360
thank you

1425
01:42:47,360 --> 01:42:49,210
so i'll move it

1426
01:42:49,210 --> 01:42:54,830
[Music]

1427
01:42:54,840 --> 01:42:58,800
okay all in favor aye all right

1428
01:42:58,800 --> 01:42:59,840
any other

1429
01:42:59,840 --> 01:43:01,199
business to fall before public safety

1430
01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:03,040
committee

1431
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,000
if there is not like a motion to adjourn

1432
01:43:06,000 --> 01:43:08,270
second policy

1433
01:43:08,270 --> 01:43:12,950
[Music]

1434
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:14,880
so the first item for the finance

1435
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,440
committee is the purchase of the 2022

1436
01:43:17,440 --> 01:43:20,400
chevy taco command vehicle with chief

1437
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:25,190
marine

1438
01:43:25,200 --> 01:43:35,040
[Music]

1439
01:43:35,040 --> 01:43:39,830
not complicated

1440
01:43:39,840 --> 01:43:45,109
uh okay so we have a capital project

1441
01:43:45,119 --> 01:43:47,040
executing right now so it's for four

1442
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:48,560
vehicles that we

1443
01:43:48,560 --> 01:43:50,830
were

1444
01:43:50,840 --> 01:43:53,199
earlier year

1445
01:43:53,199 --> 01:43:55,360
and everything's going fine one of the

1446
01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:58,320
vehicles the option package

1447
01:43:58,320 --> 01:43:59,119
uh

1448
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:00,560
change

1449
01:44:00,560 --> 01:44:02,239
so for all four of them we were using

1450
01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:04,239
what's called the back package

1451
01:44:04,239 --> 01:44:06,320
another department purchased other this

1452
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,320
relative state contract it's just that

1453
01:44:08,320 --> 01:44:11,280
we can use that language to purchase

1454
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:13,040
our form

1455
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:14,800
then there was an option

1456
01:44:14,800 --> 01:44:19,590
changed in one of the cavals

1457
01:44:19,600 --> 01:44:21,600
and the purchasing agent said that the

1458
01:44:21,600 --> 01:44:24,800
piggyback language would not fit that

1459
01:44:24,800 --> 01:44:27,199
because of that he advised us to put it

1460
01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:30,080
out for a bit which we did

1461
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:33,280
the result was a 1600

1462
01:44:33,280 --> 01:44:35,520
increase for that towel

1463
01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,360
at least on the surface

1464
01:44:37,360 --> 01:44:38,239
that

1465
01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:39,440
all comes

1466
01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:40,800
with

1467
01:44:40,800 --> 01:44:43,920
the lights already on them if

1468
01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:45,600
the lights didn't come on we would have

1469
01:44:45,600 --> 01:44:47,119
to send it out

1470
01:44:47,119 --> 01:44:49,600
and the sixteen hundred dollars pretty

1471
01:44:49,600 --> 01:44:51,199
much what that was

1472
01:44:51,199 --> 01:44:52,080
so

1473
01:44:52,080 --> 01:44:54,080
it's because we have put it out for a

1474
01:44:54,080 --> 01:44:55,679
bit that i have to come to you and ask

1475
01:44:55,679 --> 01:44:57,440
for your approval

1476
01:44:57,440 --> 01:44:58,880
there's really not

1477
01:44:58,880 --> 01:45:10,470
any change although i said it was 1600

1478
01:45:10,480 --> 01:45:13,910
are there any questions

1479
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:14,840
all

1480
01:45:14,840 --> 01:45:17,280
right i'll second how it was a favorite

1481
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,920
all right thank you thank you

1482
01:45:19,920 --> 01:45:22,560
next is propose arthur allocations with

1483
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:25,109
man

1484
01:45:25,119 --> 01:45:28,080
thank you mr chairman uh

1485
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:30,560
it's amazing for the council's

1486
01:45:30,560 --> 01:45:32,639
confederation and discussion as we're

1487
01:45:32,639 --> 01:45:34,960
going through the budget process some of

1488
01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:36,719
these projects

1489
01:45:36,719 --> 01:45:38,400
i have to have

1490
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,880
some decision by the council so i know

1491
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:41,920
how much

1492
01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,480
money we have or don't have

1493
01:45:44,480 --> 01:45:45,920
for

1494
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:48,880
some of these things going forward

1495
01:45:48,880 --> 01:45:51,840
the bigger ones you know talk about the

1496
01:45:51,840 --> 01:45:55,270
city swimming pool

1497
01:45:55,280 --> 01:45:57,590
that

1498
01:45:57,600 --> 01:45:59,840
moving ahead to the design

1499
01:45:59,840 --> 01:46:01,840
there's going to be additional expenses

1500
01:46:01,840 --> 01:46:03,520
depending on what we do with the

1501
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:05,280
additional site work with the parking

1502
01:46:05,280 --> 01:46:06,239
lot

1503
01:46:06,239 --> 01:46:09,600
lighting pathways going over to music

1504
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:11,760
haven

1505
01:46:11,760 --> 01:46:12,880
diamond

1506
01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:13,760
and

1507
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:17,990
some of the ancillary work

1508
01:46:18,000 --> 01:46:21,030
there are

1509
01:46:21,040 --> 01:46:22,800
lists that

1510
01:46:22,800 --> 01:46:24,520
attach

1511
01:46:24,520 --> 01:46:27,440
[Music]

1512
01:46:27,440 --> 01:46:30,480
once again we're at jerry burrell park

1513
01:46:30,480 --> 01:46:31,600
looking at

1514
01:46:31,600 --> 01:46:34,320
the projects within the golf course

1515
01:46:34,320 --> 01:46:35,119
uh

1516
01:46:35,119 --> 01:46:36,080
the

1517
01:46:36,080 --> 01:46:37,679
vacant house

1518
01:46:37,679 --> 01:46:41,520
rehab program we're going to do

1519
01:46:41,520 --> 01:46:44,080
round of foreclosures starting

1520
01:46:44,080 --> 01:46:45,840
next month we're starting this one

1521
01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,199
hopefully by the end of this month yes

1522
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:50,629
the paperwork

1523
01:46:50,639 --> 01:46:53,360
you know ron gardner has a robust plan

1524
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:56,880
in place for 818

1525
01:46:56,880 --> 01:47:00,159
albany street to fix that up uh we're

1526
01:47:00,159 --> 01:47:02,400
doing some of the

1527
01:47:02,400 --> 01:47:04,480
in other training organizations some of

1528
01:47:04,480 --> 01:47:08,550
the building trades

1529
01:47:08,560 --> 01:47:11,520
to move that forward and some of this

1530
01:47:11,520 --> 01:47:13,360
money we want to be able to take some of

1531
01:47:13,360 --> 01:47:15,520
the houses that we're going to take on

1532
01:47:15,520 --> 01:47:17,840
foreclosure and

1533
01:47:17,840 --> 01:47:20,880
be able to rehab them using some of that

1534
01:47:20,880 --> 01:47:23,199
workforce

1535
01:47:23,199 --> 01:47:25,199
and there's also

1536
01:47:25,199 --> 01:47:26,560
one from

1537
01:47:26,560 --> 01:47:28,239
bcni

1538
01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:31,040
for their owner occupied home repair and

1539
01:47:31,040 --> 01:47:34,560
rehabilitation program

1540
01:47:34,560 --> 01:47:36,400
they had submitted that some of that i

1541
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:38,000
would like to maybe have been able to

1542
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:39,840
start that a little bit earlier this

1543
01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:40,960
year but

1544
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:44,239
we're here now and so i'm asking

1545
01:47:44,239 --> 01:47:47,360
council for uh consideration on this and

1546
01:47:47,360 --> 01:47:49,600
consider these numbers discussion points

1547
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:51,910
where

1548
01:47:51,920 --> 01:47:54,560
their references were

1549
01:47:54,560 --> 01:47:56,239
could live with these

1550
01:47:56,239 --> 01:47:58,320
be terribly difficult if you cut them

1551
01:47:58,320 --> 01:47:59,679
gave me a little bit more it would be

1552
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:00,719
easier

1553
01:48:00,719 --> 01:48:01,840
but

1554
01:48:01,840 --> 01:48:04,480
want to have things that we can move

1555
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:06,239
forward

1556
01:48:06,239 --> 01:48:08,480
for this year's budget and then

1557
01:48:08,480 --> 01:48:10,320
also

1558
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:12,320
know how much money is available out of

1559
01:48:12,320 --> 01:48:15,199
the first round of funding

1560
01:48:15,199 --> 01:48:16,960
because then we have other groups who

1561
01:48:16,960 --> 01:48:20,960
have submitted plans and scenarios

1562
01:48:20,960 --> 01:48:23,119
which because of the timing

1563
01:48:23,119 --> 01:48:26,320
may or may not still be applicable

1564
01:48:26,320 --> 01:48:28,080
this year and some of those budget

1565
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,320
assumptions may have changed

1566
01:48:30,320 --> 01:48:33,440
so then you have to then go from this

1567
01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:34,480
into

1568
01:48:34,480 --> 01:48:36,400
review and start thinking the

1569
01:48:36,400 --> 01:48:38,639
allocations of that second round of

1570
01:48:38,639 --> 01:48:42,639
funding which we have received

1571
01:48:42,639 --> 01:48:46,470
are there any questions

1572
01:48:46,480 --> 01:48:49,440
um so on the projects uh

1573
01:48:49,440 --> 01:48:51,119
i'm gonna specifically ask about the

1574
01:48:51,119 --> 01:48:52,320
golf course

1575
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,560
project so there still would be um a

1576
01:48:54,560 --> 01:48:56,159
need for more money

1577
01:48:56,159 --> 01:48:57,920
um after this

1578
01:48:57,920 --> 01:48:59,760
what's the plan for is that would that

1579
01:48:59,760 --> 01:49:02,719
perhaps be part of the second

1580
01:49:02,719 --> 01:49:05,040
um 26

1581
01:49:05,040 --> 01:49:05,760
or

1582
01:49:05,760 --> 01:49:08,480
again i think that

1583
01:49:08,480 --> 01:49:11,270
the

1584
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:12,480
there's a

1585
01:49:12,480 --> 01:49:14,400
couple factors in that

1586
01:49:14,400 --> 01:49:15,840
where

1587
01:49:15,840 --> 01:49:17,840
i look at our recreation programs we're

1588
01:49:17,840 --> 01:49:19,840
putting money

1589
01:49:19,840 --> 01:49:22,639
in the a diamond we're doing things in

1590
01:49:22,639 --> 01:49:25,360
the tennis courts the music pavement the

1591
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,679
golf course again it's trying to create

1592
01:49:27,679 --> 01:49:29,520
something for everybody

1593
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,920
our watering system today is extremely

1594
01:49:31,920 --> 01:49:33,280
inefficient

1595
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:36,639
that old system and some of the

1596
01:49:36,639 --> 01:49:38,080
staff from the golf course have been

1597
01:49:38,080 --> 01:49:40,480
there talked about just turn it on let

1598
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:43,990
it go

1599
01:49:44,000 --> 01:49:48,000
the numbers there are

1600
01:49:48,000 --> 01:49:50,880
i will call a good ballpark

1601
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:52,719
with the way bits have been going out

1602
01:49:52,719 --> 01:49:55,599
and coming in i can't guarantee that

1603
01:49:55,599 --> 01:49:56,719
number

1604
01:49:56,719 --> 01:50:03,030
the 3.5 it's mr long here

1605
01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:04,960
so i'm looking to take the temperature

1606
01:50:04,960 --> 01:50:07,840
of the city council you know what's your

1607
01:50:07,840 --> 01:50:09,920
level of interest in it and again

1608
01:50:09,920 --> 01:50:11,360
matching this up of what we might be

1609
01:50:11,360 --> 01:50:12,800
able to do this year

1610
01:50:12,800 --> 01:50:14,480
versus next year

1611
01:50:14,480 --> 01:50:16,400
some of these what would we be able to

1612
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:17,840
get

1613
01:50:17,840 --> 01:50:19,440
out of funding from revenue from the

1614
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:21,679
golf course or some of these other

1615
01:50:21,679 --> 01:50:24,400
housing projects what money we have in

1616
01:50:24,400 --> 01:50:26,719
other areas and

1617
01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:28,560
it's just that we have to start the

1618
01:50:28,560 --> 01:50:32,470
process and start moving forward

1619
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:34,000
yes my uh

1620
01:50:34,000 --> 01:50:35,599
questions

1621
01:50:35,599 --> 01:50:39,040
related to that um you know it seems to

1622
01:50:39,040 --> 01:50:40,560
me it would make

1623
01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:43,440
for me it would make more sense to

1624
01:50:43,440 --> 01:50:45,280
fund the projects

1625
01:50:45,280 --> 01:50:47,119
these are

1626
01:50:47,119 --> 01:50:49,360
projects that

1627
01:50:49,360 --> 01:50:51,199
help everybody in the city they're also

1628
01:50:51,199 --> 01:50:53,840
revenue generating projects they're

1629
01:50:53,840 --> 01:50:55,360
going to make

1630
01:50:55,360 --> 01:50:57,199
various neighborhoods better with some

1631
01:50:57,199 --> 01:50:58,159
of the

1632
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:00,719
housing aspects

1633
01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:01,440
so

1634
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:02,719
i mean

1635
01:51:02,719 --> 01:51:08,629
that's kind of where i'm at with this

1636
01:51:08,639 --> 01:51:10,960
i would say for me i think we've made

1637
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:13,199
considerations to date i think

1638
01:51:13,199 --> 01:51:14,639
referencing the most recent one which

1639
01:51:14,639 --> 01:51:17,119
was funding the school program over the

1640
01:51:17,119 --> 01:51:20,159
summer which i imagine was a success

1641
01:51:20,159 --> 01:51:21,679
i think i'd want to make sure equal

1642
01:51:21,679 --> 01:51:23,040
considerations were made to all the

1643
01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:25,280
projects i definitely know there were a

1644
01:51:25,280 --> 01:51:27,599
number of other

1645
01:51:27,599 --> 01:51:28,960
interest items throughout the city that

1646
01:51:28,960 --> 01:51:30,320
i'd like to make sure

1647
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:33,119
we're given equal considerations and it

1648
01:51:33,119 --> 01:51:34,719
does not mean that i do not equally

1649
01:51:34,719 --> 01:51:36,560
value the golf course even though i'm

1650
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,960
not an avid golfer i think looking at

1651
01:51:38,960 --> 01:51:40,000
the

1652
01:51:40,000 --> 01:51:41,920
magnitude and proportion of what the

1653
01:51:41,920 --> 01:51:43,920
central park pool which is already in

1654
01:51:43,920 --> 01:51:46,080
process if i'm

1655
01:51:46,080 --> 01:51:49,119
speaking incorrectly it garners a

1656
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:51,280
significant amount of what's left

1657
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,119
so i think wanting to make sure i was

1658
01:51:53,119 --> 01:51:54,960
considered of the time of the people

1659
01:51:54,960 --> 01:51:56,000
that were

1660
01:51:56,000 --> 01:51:58,880
investing in the review process making

1661
01:51:58,880 --> 01:52:00,639
sure that we were not giving second or

1662
01:52:00,639 --> 01:52:02,159
after thought considerations to some of

1663
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:04,480
the other items that still

1664
01:52:04,480 --> 01:52:06,320
were submitted to receive coming from

1665
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:07,920
this first pool

1666
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:09,119
and

1667
01:52:09,119 --> 01:52:11,280
i think for me i do not think it's a

1668
01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,360
position that i'm willing to take of

1669
01:52:13,360 --> 01:52:15,280
we'll try again the next round because

1670
01:52:15,280 --> 01:52:16,800
we've been intentional letting people

1671
01:52:16,800 --> 01:52:19,199
know this pot of money is not there is

1672
01:52:19,199 --> 01:52:20,880
no next time so i think people want to

1673
01:52:20,880 --> 01:52:22,800
make sure that the items that they put

1674
01:52:22,800 --> 01:52:24,320
forward the items that they voted for

1675
01:52:24,320 --> 01:52:26,480
the items that they localized for

1676
01:52:26,480 --> 01:52:26,660
are

1677
01:52:26,660 --> 01:52:28,840
[Music]

1678
01:52:28,840 --> 01:52:33,199
are given those intentional uh

1679
01:52:33,199 --> 01:52:34,960
thinking points so for me i think it's

1680
01:52:34,960 --> 01:52:36,719
waiting the two weeks or being able to

1681
01:52:36,719 --> 01:52:38,560
see all the projects collectively and

1682
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:42,790
then making a termination

1683
01:52:42,800 --> 01:52:45,280
anyone else

1684
01:52:45,280 --> 01:52:47,679
yeah and like with the housing um so we

1685
01:52:47,679 --> 01:52:48,880
you know we all had the committee to

1686
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:51,119
communicate the recommendations etc so i

1687
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:53,280
see that we have um some money here for

1688
01:52:53,280 --> 01:52:54,560
housing but

1689
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:57,599
the there were multiple um applications

1690
01:52:57,599 --> 01:52:59,679
submitted for housing so it to me it

1691
01:52:59,679 --> 01:53:01,760
makes sense to look at them collectively

1692
01:53:01,760 --> 01:53:03,920
as opposed to funding these two

1693
01:53:03,920 --> 01:53:05,520
particular ones and then the other

1694
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:08,159
housing things being separate and apart

1695
01:53:08,159 --> 01:53:09,920
um and at this point in time we're down

1696
01:53:09,920 --> 01:53:12,159
to like two million dollars out of the

1697
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:13,599
original that's a little bit less than

1698
01:53:13,599 --> 01:53:16,000
that based on this so

1699
01:53:16,000 --> 01:53:18,719
i think that we should look collectively

1700
01:53:18,719 --> 01:53:22,239
at the housing and at all of them um

1701
01:53:22,239 --> 01:53:24,239
to see the other applications that were

1702
01:53:24,239 --> 01:53:26,560
pronounced and i after people saw the

1703
01:53:26,560 --> 01:53:28,480
agenda i did receive emails

1704
01:53:28,480 --> 01:53:30,880
uh and had conversations that um people

1705
01:53:30,880 --> 01:53:32,400
were like wondering like so you know

1706
01:53:32,400 --> 01:53:34,239
when women when are the other things

1707
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:35,840
that are beyond what the city is

1708
01:53:35,840 --> 01:53:38,719
requesting um going to be looked at so i

1709
01:53:38,719 --> 01:53:39,920
understand we've already made the

1710
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,719
commitment for the central park pool

1711
01:53:42,719 --> 01:53:44,159
and we should you know to move forward

1712
01:53:44,159 --> 01:53:45,760
with that but i think that you know we

1713
01:53:45,760 --> 01:53:47,679
should be looking at the collective

1714
01:53:47,679 --> 01:53:51,199
applications what our what the city

1715
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:54,239
development planning has suggested and

1716
01:53:54,239 --> 01:53:56,080
said that we should fund and they've

1717
01:53:56,080 --> 01:54:00,239
also said in addition to that not only will they have to look at

1718
01:54:00,239 --> 01:54:01,840
what they want to fund but they also

1719
01:54:01,840 --> 01:54:03,360
have to look at where those

1720
01:54:03,360 --> 01:54:05,360
organizations are at this point in time

1721
01:54:05,360 --> 01:54:06,960
in terms of their funding some have

1722
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:08,480
already gotten into additional funding

1723
01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:11,280
that's that's an absolute so i think all

1724
01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:12,320
of that needs to be taken into

1725
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:15,119
consideration in a collective way so as

1726
01:54:15,119 --> 01:54:16,719
you know as a because right now we've

1727
01:54:16,719 --> 01:54:18,639
been basically kind of piecemealing it

1728
01:54:18,639 --> 01:54:20,800
out and so i think we do need to look at

1729
01:54:20,800 --> 01:54:23,520
this um to big picture and as i said the

1730
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:25,920
park is already done and you know let's

1731
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,679
move forward but there are other there

1732
01:54:27,679 --> 01:54:29,679
are other items that um

1733
01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:31,040
that are

1734
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:32,080
have been

1735
01:54:32,080 --> 01:54:33,760
requested funding i think we should be

1736
01:54:33,760 --> 01:54:35,599
taking a look at in the two weeks when i

1737
01:54:35,599 --> 01:54:36,960
did speak to the mayor about it he did

1738
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,040
say in two weeks the other projects

1739
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:40,639
would um other things would come forward

1740
01:54:40,639 --> 01:54:44,159
so if we could hold everything um

1741
01:54:44,159 --> 01:54:45,840
acceptable which we already approved in

1742
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,159
a resolution quite a few months ago then

1743
01:54:48,159 --> 01:54:49,679
and just look big picture all of it i

1744
01:54:49,679 --> 01:54:51,199
think it just makes

1745
01:54:51,199 --> 01:54:55,750
it makes sense

1746
01:54:55,760 --> 01:54:57,599
it's patrick i don't think that we

1747
01:54:57,599 --> 01:54:59,440
actually did approve the pool a few

1748
01:54:59,440 --> 01:55:01,280
months ago i'd have to go back and look

1749
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,760
i think what we approved was the money

1750
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:04,800
to

1751
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:05,679
um

1752
01:55:05,679 --> 01:55:07,760
do the design through the

1753
01:55:07,760 --> 01:55:10,000
study okay but we have not we have not

1754
01:55:10,000 --> 01:55:11,840
approved this we haven't gone out for

1755
01:55:11,840 --> 01:55:15,840
final bids and again that pull and then

1756
01:55:15,840 --> 01:55:18,400
question my mind above the

1757
01:55:18,400 --> 01:55:20,000
four and a half million dollars that

1758
01:55:20,000 --> 01:55:22,239
we're carrying so much money so you

1759
01:55:22,239 --> 01:55:23,360
think it's going to be even higher than

1760
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:24,320
this

1761
01:55:24,320 --> 01:55:27,280
is that what you said maybe in the

1762
01:55:27,280 --> 01:55:29,360
five and a half for six million dollar

1763
01:55:29,360 --> 01:55:33,199
range again depending on the parking lot

1764
01:55:33,199 --> 01:55:35,440
the walkway some of the lighting the

1765
01:55:35,440 --> 01:55:37,360
other ancillary improvements that will

1766
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:40,159
be made there along with some of the

1767
01:55:40,159 --> 01:55:41,440
upgrades

1768
01:55:41,440 --> 01:55:43,599
i want to put some

1769
01:55:43,599 --> 01:55:46,000
stadium seating at the tennis courts

1770
01:55:46,000 --> 01:55:48,159
because we're taking the old tennis

1771
01:55:48,159 --> 01:55:52,000
stadium down but to protect those courts

1772
01:55:52,000 --> 01:55:53,199
where we have a high level of

1773
01:55:53,199 --> 01:55:55,119
utilization now and u.s tennis

1774
01:55:55,119 --> 01:55:56,719
association and

1775
01:55:56,719 --> 01:56:01,830
just city residents

1776
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:04,480
so the 450 that we approved was just for

1777
01:56:04,480 --> 01:56:09,830
the design is that a part of this number

1778
01:56:09,840 --> 01:56:12,390
it's

1779
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,119
not this is that tablet it's a part of

1780
01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:16,239
the number

1781
01:56:16,239 --> 01:56:18,639
it's delineated on the other page but

1782
01:56:18,639 --> 01:56:20,560
it's that time the

1783
01:56:20,560 --> 01:56:22,800
what will be the final request

1784
01:56:22,800 --> 01:56:25,119
to fund the pool

1785
01:56:25,119 --> 01:56:26,400
and i thought that we approved because i

1786
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:27,679
know they're already tearing stuff down

1787
01:56:27,679 --> 01:56:28,800
with them

1788
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:33,669
right that's site work is part of the

1789
01:56:33,679 --> 01:56:38,709
design

1790
01:56:38,719 --> 01:56:41,280
so i just want to also again point out

1791
01:56:41,280 --> 01:56:43,119
that i agree that the costs are just

1792
01:56:43,119 --> 01:56:45,280
going to continue to rise if we had been

1793
01:56:45,280 --> 01:56:47,360
able to do the irrigation system when we

1794
01:56:47,360 --> 01:56:49,840
first started talking about it which was

1795
01:56:49,840 --> 01:56:52,080
at least two and a half years ago i mean

1796
01:56:52,080 --> 01:56:54,719
actually predates my time on council but

1797
01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:55,840
i know that we've been talking about it

1798
01:56:55,840 --> 01:56:57,119
for the two and a half years that i've

1799
01:56:57,119 --> 01:56:59,679
been on council it started i think at

1800
01:56:59,679 --> 01:57:02,080
like a couple of million um and now you

1801
01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:06,080
can see that this is um 3.5 million um

1802
01:57:06,080 --> 01:57:07,119
so

1803
01:57:07,119 --> 01:57:08,800
you know i think along with all these

1804
01:57:08,800 --> 01:57:11,360
other things the jerry burrell project i

1805
01:57:11,360 --> 01:57:12,800
mean personally i just think we should

1806
01:57:12,800 --> 01:57:14,880
be trying to finish that project

1807
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:18,800
um i think that it's um

1808
01:57:18,800 --> 01:57:20,960
you know it's a very it's an essential

1809
01:57:20,960 --> 01:57:22,840
park it's in a neighborhood that

1810
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:25,199
definitely um you know we know that

1811
01:57:25,199 --> 01:57:27,119
folks want these things to happen in

1812
01:57:27,119 --> 01:57:29,440
that park

1813
01:57:29,440 --> 01:57:31,840
so i hear what you're saying

1814
01:57:31,840 --> 01:57:33,920
but you know i think we have to start

1815
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:35,679
making some decisions

1816
01:57:35,679 --> 01:57:37,119
um

1817
01:57:37,119 --> 01:57:38,719
i am glad to hear that perhaps we're

1818
01:57:38,719 --> 01:57:39,760
going to hear about the rest of the

1819
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:42,000
projects in a couple of weeks because i

1820
01:57:42,000 --> 01:57:44,000
think that process happened

1821
01:57:44,000 --> 01:57:46,800
in march or april um so it will be kind

1822
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:48,800
of good to be able to hear and see you

1823
01:57:48,800 --> 01:57:50,880
know what the other projects are

1824
01:57:50,880 --> 01:57:53,199
um but we still then are going to have

1825
01:57:53,199 --> 01:57:55,440
to do a decision making process

1826
01:57:55,440 --> 01:57:58,639
around whether we are going to even um

1827
01:57:58,639 --> 01:58:01,679
think about the recommendations

1828
01:58:01,679 --> 01:58:04,840
further so you know it's august

1829
01:58:04,840 --> 01:58:07,840
um you know i just feel like we're

1830
01:58:07,840 --> 01:58:09,760
we've been dragging our feet for months

1831
01:58:09,760 --> 01:58:12,480
on this that's just my personal opinion

1832
01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:15,040
um and it's frustrating

1833
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:16,880
i think it's frustrating to folks out

1834
01:58:16,880 --> 01:58:18,639
there as well because i think we're all

1835
01:58:18,639 --> 01:58:19,760
getting

1836
01:58:19,760 --> 01:58:22,719
calls and emails about you know

1837
01:58:22,719 --> 01:58:23,840
what's happening with the article

1838
01:58:23,840 --> 01:58:24,719
funding

1839
01:58:24,719 --> 01:58:27,040
so i'm just and i want to be clear some

1840
01:58:27,040 --> 01:58:29,199
of these once i'm focused on this first

1841
01:58:29,199 --> 01:58:31,679
round of discussion tonight

1842
01:58:31,679 --> 01:58:32,560
is

1843
01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:36,800
they will have a direct impact on

1844
01:58:36,800 --> 01:58:41,199
what goes into the proposed 2023 budget

1845
01:58:41,199 --> 01:58:44,400
and i know like the council i think that

1846
01:58:44,400 --> 01:58:46,159
just one swoop through and i give you

1847
01:58:46,159 --> 01:58:47,440
the budget

1848
01:58:47,440 --> 01:58:48,480
there are

1849
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,280
two three four times budgets are

1850
01:58:51,280 --> 01:58:54,480
reviewed internally going over the

1851
01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:56,719
different scenarios so that when

1852
01:58:56,719 --> 01:58:58,880
it comes to council again it's a well

1853
01:58:58,880 --> 01:59:02,639
thought out document that again

1854
01:59:02,639 --> 01:59:04,560
hopefully reflects

1855
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:06,719
stability in the city and sustainability

1856
01:59:06,719 --> 01:59:09,199
going forward but i'm going to need to

1857
01:59:09,199 --> 01:59:11,199
know

1858
01:59:11,199 --> 01:59:13,199
some of these projects and whether the

1859
01:59:13,199 --> 01:59:14,719
council's inclined to move ahead with

1860
01:59:14,719 --> 01:59:17,119
them or not move ahead with them

1861
01:59:17,119 --> 01:59:18,560
and what i'm going to have to do when i

1862
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:21,599
submit the budget to you in october

1863
01:59:21,599 --> 01:59:23,679
and where you think that's

1864
01:59:23,679 --> 01:59:25,760
down the road quite a ways it's not from

1865
01:59:25,760 --> 01:59:27,199
the internal review and some of the

1866
01:59:27,199 --> 01:59:29,599
assumptions so like you don't fund some

1867
01:59:29,599 --> 01:59:32,800
of these he said no we're not doing

1868
01:59:32,800 --> 01:59:34,480
housing rehab or another one and i've

1869
01:59:34,480 --> 01:59:35,360
got to

1870
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:38,239
look at other assumptions for potential

1871
01:59:38,239 --> 01:59:41,199
revenue or expenses or just our

1872
01:59:41,199 --> 01:59:42,960
overall ability to undertake some of

1873
01:59:42,960 --> 01:59:45,990
these projects

1874
01:59:46,000 --> 01:59:47,840
this is claire

1875
01:59:47,840 --> 01:59:48,719
thank you

1876
01:59:48,719 --> 01:59:50,320
um so

1877
01:59:50,320 --> 01:59:51,599
i'd advocate

1878
01:59:51,599 --> 01:59:54,239
first for city projects

1879
01:59:54,239 --> 01:59:55,280
with a

1880
01:59:55,280 --> 01:59:57,840
one-time warm-up of

1881
01:59:57,840 --> 01:59:59,360
we're never going to get it again

1882
01:59:59,360 --> 02:00:00,800
there's things that we need to address

1883
02:00:00,800 --> 02:00:03,280
here in the city um let's put this list

1884
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:05,520
together and and and

1885
02:00:05,520 --> 02:00:07,679
i would tend to go along and advocate

1886
02:00:07,679 --> 02:00:09,679
for him

1887
02:00:09,679 --> 02:00:10,960
with him

1888
02:00:10,960 --> 02:00:12,480
how to spend this money as far as the

1889
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:14,000
golf course no one has to be an epic

1890
02:00:14,000 --> 02:00:15,760
golfer even though i am

1891
02:00:15,760 --> 02:00:16,639
um

1892
02:00:16,639 --> 02:00:18,639
but you can't imagine the revenue and

1893
02:00:18,639 --> 02:00:21,040
we'll get you up there mr williams

1894
02:00:21,040 --> 02:00:23,280
the revenue that comes back into our

1895
02:00:23,280 --> 02:00:24,320
city

1896
02:00:24,320 --> 02:00:26,639
who come who comes to golf it's one one

1897
02:00:26,639 --> 02:00:29,599
of our gems here alongside central park

1898
02:00:29,599 --> 02:00:31,599
the water that we produce here in

1899
02:00:31,599 --> 02:00:34,400
schenectady um the golf course people

1900
02:00:34,400 --> 02:00:37,679
come to our community for that um so i i

1901
02:00:37,679 --> 02:00:41,920
would allocate uh advocate for

1902
02:00:41,920 --> 02:00:44,400
the projects that the the mayor has put

1903
02:00:44,400 --> 02:00:47,119
before us um yesterday last evening i

1904
02:00:47,119 --> 02:00:49,520
will say i volunteered at music haven

1905
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:52,320
and um gosh when i got there there was

1906
02:00:52,320 --> 02:00:54,639
laughter and joy in the pool

1907
02:00:54,639 --> 02:00:57,280
um people people had barbecues going

1908
02:00:57,280 --> 02:00:59,520
they had balloons up they had uh

1909
02:00:59,520 --> 02:01:01,440
birthday parties stuff the park was

1910
02:01:01,440 --> 02:01:04,159
alive i mean it was uh baseball on the a

1911
02:01:04,159 --> 02:01:06,080
diamond baseball on over by the dump

1912
02:01:06,080 --> 02:01:08,880
pond it was just and the music came in

1913
02:01:08,880 --> 02:01:10,719
it was just you know

1914
02:01:10,719 --> 02:01:12,639
something we need to be proud of so

1915
02:01:12,639 --> 02:01:14,560
again

1916
02:01:14,560 --> 02:01:17,520
and just on that irrigation system our

1917
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,520
largest

1918
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,800
consumption of electricity is

1919
02:01:22,800 --> 02:01:25,440
used or is done by the pumps at the

1920
02:01:25,440 --> 02:01:27,920
wellhead on rice road

1921
02:01:27,920 --> 02:01:30,800
so again today we use a lot of water to

1922
02:01:30,800 --> 02:01:32,560
irrigate that

1923
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:34,400
and i'm looking for ways to reduce that

1924
02:01:34,400 --> 02:01:36,880
to make it more efficient and

1925
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:38,960
we'll end up saving on our electric bill

1926
02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:42,550
also other places

1927
02:01:42,560 --> 02:01:44,080
um

1928
02:01:44,080 --> 02:01:46,159
i think it's worth noting that the

1929
02:01:46,159 --> 02:01:47,760
continuing narrative that the council's

1930
02:01:47,760 --> 02:01:49,840
slow reaction or not acting i think is

1931
02:01:49,840 --> 02:01:51,599
giving a wrong perception of what we're

1932
02:01:51,599 --> 02:01:53,920
doing here and i think again the most

1933
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:56,080
recent monies that we allocated was for

1934
02:01:56,080 --> 02:01:57,920
the summer program which i was

1935
02:01:57,920 --> 02:01:59,760
initially opposed to for the same

1936
02:01:59,760 --> 02:02:01,520
reasons of wanting to make sure we gave

1937
02:02:01,520 --> 02:02:04,239
time and consideration of people's uh

1938
02:02:04,239 --> 02:02:05,920
schedules and changing those to review

1939
02:02:05,920 --> 02:02:08,239
these projects but understanding that we

1940
02:02:08,239 --> 02:02:10,320
were in a time sensitive situation and

1941
02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:11,440
we needed to make sure that we were

1942
02:02:11,440 --> 02:02:13,679
considered of the kids over the summer i

1943
02:02:13,679 --> 02:02:15,440
understood that i think it's important

1944
02:02:15,440 --> 02:02:17,040
to make sure we're not rushing two

1945
02:02:17,040 --> 02:02:20,000
decisions just for the sake of time and

1946
02:02:20,000 --> 02:02:22,000
i know that we are put in a situation

1947
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:23,199
due to just some of the extended

1948
02:02:23,199 --> 02:02:25,440
timelines from the review process but we

1949
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:27,199
are so close some of my questions are

1950
02:02:27,199 --> 02:02:30,159
why are we not reviewing the collective

1951
02:02:30,159 --> 02:02:32,480
projects tonight i think is a fair

1952
02:02:32,480 --> 02:02:34,880
question but for me right now

1953
02:02:34,880 --> 02:02:38,000
i think it's wanted to

1954
02:02:38,000 --> 02:02:40,800
make sure that we are not spending

1955
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:42,560
three quarters of the remaining budget

1956
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,960
from the first allotment

1957
02:02:44,960 --> 02:02:46,880
again without looking at the collective

1958
02:02:46,880 --> 02:02:49,040
projects so i think it's making sure

1959
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:51,360
that we're focusing on the true timeline

1960
02:02:51,360 --> 02:02:53,360
which is when monies need to be

1961
02:02:53,360 --> 02:02:55,520
allocated and spent and we are nowhere

1962
02:02:55,520 --> 02:02:57,599
near there yet and i think although we

1963
02:02:57,599 --> 02:02:59,119
are feeling pressure from the community

1964
02:02:59,119 --> 02:03:00,480
part of the reason of being public

1965
02:03:00,480 --> 02:03:02,159
advocates is making sure that we can

1966
02:03:02,159 --> 02:03:04,719
read between those lines and understand

1967
02:03:04,719 --> 02:03:05,760
when

1968
02:03:05,760 --> 02:03:09,430
and when not to react

1969
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:11,199
this is part of you and i just wanted to

1970
02:03:11,199 --> 02:03:12,840
um to provide some additional

1971
02:03:12,840 --> 02:03:15,199
information um we talked about jerry

1972
02:03:15,199 --> 02:03:16,800
barrell park so that went out to bid and

1973
02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:18,560
no one came back with bids so we got a

1974
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:19,840
little bit more time it has to go out to

1975
02:03:19,840 --> 02:03:22,560
bid again because no one submitted a bid

1976
02:03:22,560 --> 02:03:24,880
on that particular project

1977
02:03:24,880 --> 02:03:28,000
um so and also i know that um one of the

1978
02:03:28,000 --> 02:03:29,760
like bc and i just also got some

1979
02:03:29,760 --> 02:03:31,679
additional money themselves so that

1980
02:03:31,679 --> 02:03:33,280
might be covering some of the faucets

1981
02:03:33,280 --> 02:03:35,040
what we're looking at here so again i

1982
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:37,040
say that we should be looking at other

1983
02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:38,880
monies that other people have already

1984
02:03:38,880 --> 02:03:41,760
received or if they're looking at their project and say

1985
02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:44,080
we can no longer do it because it took

1986
02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:45,920
so long and there's some smaller

1987
02:03:45,920 --> 02:03:46,960
projects

1988
02:03:46,960 --> 02:03:48,719
that are asking not like for significant

1989
02:03:48,719 --> 02:03:50,719
amounts of money that we

1990
02:03:50,719 --> 02:03:51,520
you know

1991
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:52,320
would

1992
02:03:52,320 --> 02:03:54,480
could be looking at and and funding and

1993
02:03:54,480 --> 02:03:57,040
that still provide a service to people

1994
02:03:57,040 --> 02:03:58,960
from all over the city

1995
02:03:58,960 --> 02:04:02,079
so i i think that you know it it it

1996
02:04:02,079 --> 02:04:03,840
warrants us looking at

1997
02:04:03,840 --> 02:04:06,960
the big picture

1998
02:04:06,970 --> 02:04:09,360
[Music]

1999
02:04:09,360 --> 02:04:11,679
so if i understand

2000
02:04:11,679 --> 02:04:13,920
that there's some intentionality about

2001
02:04:13,920 --> 02:04:15,199
why we

2002
02:04:15,199 --> 02:04:17,040
brought the items

2003
02:04:17,040 --> 02:04:19,280
um for today is because

2004
02:04:19,280 --> 02:04:21,679
of some planning that needs to happen

2005
02:04:21,679 --> 02:04:27,320
around what we can

2006
02:04:27,330 --> 02:04:30,790
[Music]

2007
02:04:30,800 --> 02:04:34,239
so i guess i will just go around and ask

2008
02:04:34,239 --> 02:04:37,440
where people are on this and see

2009
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:39,280
what we have

2010
02:04:39,280 --> 02:04:40,320
in

2011
02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:42,639
terms of support

2012
02:04:42,639 --> 02:04:44,560
over there miss patrick

2013
02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:57,430
i would support this stick harley

2014
02:04:57,440 --> 02:04:58,960
i'm asked to have some questions about

2015
02:04:58,960 --> 02:04:59,760
it

2016
02:04:59,760 --> 02:05:01,180
so

2017
02:05:01,180 --> 02:05:04,320
[Music]

2018
02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:05,840
i have some questions around around the

2019
02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,239
timeline so let me uh give me a minute

2020
02:05:08,239 --> 02:05:10,560
to kind of think about that sure

2021
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,239
mr williams

2022
02:05:12,239 --> 02:05:14,719
and this girl would still be polished or

2023
02:05:14,719 --> 02:05:18,840
escorting our community correct but it's understanding

2024
02:05:18,840 --> 02:05:21,520
more people hearing what we have to say

2025
02:05:21,520 --> 02:05:23,360
yeah it's poor feel

2026
02:05:23,360 --> 02:05:24,800
so i'm you know comfortable in central

2027
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:25,920
park we're already moving ahead we

2028
02:05:25,920 --> 02:05:27,119
already know that project's going to

2029
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:30,159
move um i could even support the golf

2030
02:05:30,159 --> 02:05:32,400
course however i think we really should

2031
02:05:32,400 --> 02:05:33,440
be

2032
02:05:33,440 --> 02:05:35,840
like i said this one project has went

2033
02:05:35,840 --> 02:05:38,320
out to bid we got no bids on it there's

2034
02:05:38,320 --> 02:05:39,679
uh other folks who are involved with

2035
02:05:39,679 --> 02:05:42,560
some of the other projects where um

2036
02:05:42,560 --> 02:05:44,320
where they got additional money and in

2037
02:05:44,320 --> 02:05:46,000
addition to that there's other housing

2038
02:05:46,000 --> 02:05:49,040
projects that were submitted that i feel

2039
02:05:49,040 --> 02:05:50,880
should have the opportunity to be looked

2040
02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:52,639
at at the same time

2041
02:05:52,639 --> 02:05:54,800
and we're spending we're really spending

2042
02:05:54,800 --> 02:05:58,239
down um and again there's a collective

2043
02:05:58,239 --> 02:06:00,000
of some of the smaller projects that

2044
02:06:00,000 --> 02:06:02,239
weren't just looking at them so i could

2045
02:06:02,239 --> 02:06:03,040
not

2046
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:04,719
fully support this there are some of it

2047
02:06:04,719 --> 02:06:08,629
that i could support but not fully

2048
02:06:08,639 --> 02:06:09,840
um

2049
02:06:09,840 --> 02:06:12,560
so the the guideline to spend this money

2050
02:06:12,560 --> 02:06:18,310
it's like 20 24

2051
02:06:18,320 --> 02:06:22,880
harp of money right 2024. so um

2052
02:06:22,880 --> 02:06:25,280
and i i don't think that

2053
02:06:25,280 --> 02:06:28,069
um

2054
02:06:28,079 --> 02:06:31,440
we should wait um

2055
02:06:31,440 --> 02:06:32,880
i think we should

2056
02:06:32,880 --> 02:06:34,400
move forward

2057
02:06:34,400 --> 02:06:35,599
and spend the money i don't think

2058
02:06:35,599 --> 02:06:37,280
there's any need to wait

2059
02:06:37,280 --> 02:06:39,040
a year and a half before we give someone

2060
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,000
money

2061
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,880
and then decide you know spend it before

2062
02:06:42,880 --> 02:06:44,639
we lose it

2063
02:06:44,639 --> 02:06:48,870
i like miss porterfield's

2064
02:06:48,880 --> 02:06:50,480
notation there about there's certain

2065
02:06:50,480 --> 02:06:53,679
projects she would like to and certain

2066
02:06:53,679 --> 02:06:55,920
ones that she wouldn't thank you

2067
02:06:55,920 --> 02:06:59,440
for that being said though i am in support

2068
02:06:59,440 --> 02:07:01,440
of

2069
02:07:01,440 --> 02:07:04,079
this agenda here okay are you ready or

2070
02:07:04,079 --> 02:07:07,040
you want me to go yeah go ahead um

2071
02:07:07,040 --> 02:07:09,599
i'm in support of it i

2072
02:07:09,599 --> 02:07:11,040
think we have

2073
02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:12,800
a one-time

2074
02:07:12,800 --> 02:07:14,480
situation

2075
02:07:14,480 --> 02:07:16,159
and

2076
02:07:16,159 --> 02:07:19,440
allows us as a city to use money for

2077
02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:21,840
various projects big projects

2078
02:07:21,840 --> 02:07:24,079
that we don't need to borrow that we

2079
02:07:24,079 --> 02:07:26,800
don't need to

2080
02:07:26,800 --> 02:07:28,719
use reserves for

2081
02:07:28,719 --> 02:07:31,440
i think that's a big deal so we don't

2082
02:07:31,440 --> 02:07:32,960
have to con

2083
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:35,040
tax considerations

2084
02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:36,560
with these

2085
02:07:36,560 --> 02:07:39,199
in particular some of these are revenue

2086
02:07:39,199 --> 02:07:41,040
generating projects

2087
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:42,639
uh i just think

2088
02:07:42,639 --> 02:07:44,239
we're not even hacked he wasn't even

2089
02:07:44,239 --> 02:07:45,199
asking

2090
02:07:45,199 --> 02:07:47,360
for the entire amount so there is room

2091
02:07:47,360 --> 02:07:50,800
for leveraging that money with

2092
02:07:50,800 --> 02:07:53,520
either various maneuvers financially or

2093
02:07:53,520 --> 02:07:55,920
with some other projects

2094
02:07:55,920 --> 02:07:58,239
and that allows us to

2095
02:07:58,239 --> 02:08:00,719
move forward and get things going before

2096
02:08:00,719 --> 02:08:03,040
costs go up even more

2097
02:08:03,040 --> 02:08:04,800
mr carl

2098
02:08:04,800 --> 02:08:06,400
so

2099
02:08:06,400 --> 02:08:08,400
what i'm hearing here is that we're

2100
02:08:08,400 --> 02:08:10,320
right now trying to kind of understand

2101
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:13,040
you know kind of checking that the the

2102
02:08:13,040 --> 02:08:14,400
post of the council as to where we're

2103
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:16,719
supporting on these projects and so i

2104
02:08:16,719 --> 02:08:22,000
want to say that um you know i i support this i think that um we want

2105
02:08:22,000 --> 02:08:22,800
to

2106
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:24,719
make sure that we're

2107
02:08:24,719 --> 02:08:27,760
you know moving you know

2108
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:31,840
in a way that is efficient and effective

2109
02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:34,800
my largest i guess concern would be what

2110
02:08:34,800 --> 02:08:37,199
is the cost of the lane right so that's

2111
02:08:37,199 --> 02:08:39,520
really so when i say um

2112
02:08:39,520 --> 02:08:41,840
and that you know i was trying to take

2113
02:08:41,840 --> 02:08:43,520
time to think i was thinking that was

2114
02:08:43,520 --> 02:08:45,119
the question i was trying to kind of

2115
02:08:45,119 --> 02:08:46,880
remain in your head like is there a cost

2116
02:08:46,880 --> 02:08:48,880
associated um

2117
02:08:48,880 --> 02:08:51,119
with um waiting until we kind of are

2118
02:08:51,119 --> 02:08:53,920
looking at everything in the totality

2119
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:57,520
and uh so that is the kind of the piece

2120
02:08:57,520 --> 02:08:59,760
of information that um

2121
02:08:59,760 --> 02:09:02,000
i don't know that

2122
02:09:02,000 --> 02:09:05,040
i'm clear on right now um if we're

2123
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:06,880
talking about two weeks but um i i would

2124
02:09:06,880 --> 02:09:09,910
support those things

2125
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:11,679
all right so there is

2126
02:09:11,679 --> 02:09:14,320
general consensus um

2127
02:09:14,320 --> 02:09:15,440
i will

2128
02:09:15,440 --> 02:09:17,599
even though i know i'll ask for a motion

2129
02:09:17,599 --> 02:09:18,719
to

2130
02:09:18,719 --> 02:09:20,880
move this

2131
02:09:20,880 --> 02:09:23,119
i won't move it there's not a second so

2132
02:09:23,119 --> 02:09:24,800
the motion fails

2133
02:09:24,800 --> 02:09:27,599
that being said is there

2134
02:09:27,599 --> 02:09:28,400
a

2135
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:30,400
general support

2136
02:09:30,400 --> 02:09:32,400
i know miss porterfield spoke in favor

2137
02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:33,920
of it to

2138
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:35,040
move the

2139
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:37,520
central park and golf course irrigation

2140
02:09:37,520 --> 02:09:38,480
money

2141
02:09:38,480 --> 02:09:41,920
mr chairman yes again i

2142
02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:44,079
put these forward because of their

2143
02:09:44,079 --> 02:09:46,560
potential for significant budget impacts

2144
02:09:46,560 --> 02:09:48,719
going forward i don't mind holding this

2145
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:51,040
for two weeks and looking at some of the

2146
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:53,520
other factors and i

2147
02:09:53,520 --> 02:09:55,920
respectfully i disagree with mr williams

2148
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,119
in terms of

2149
02:09:57,119 --> 02:09:59,360
the summer youth employment program that

2150
02:09:59,360 --> 02:10:01,280
was not a bright day in the history of

2151
02:10:01,280 --> 02:10:04,639
the city council in fact quite

2152
02:10:04,639 --> 02:10:05,840
embarrassed

2153
02:10:05,840 --> 02:10:08,480
that had the opportunity to take and

2154
02:10:08,480 --> 02:10:11,280
take use give them some of the jobs put

2155
02:10:11,280 --> 02:10:13,679
them to work and

2156
02:10:13,679 --> 02:10:15,679
really give them life experience and

2157
02:10:15,679 --> 02:10:17,679
give them some money and that wasn't

2158
02:10:17,679 --> 02:10:19,840
going to happen under the council's

2159
02:10:19,840 --> 02:10:22,159
scenario that you were working under so

2160
02:10:22,159 --> 02:10:25,360
you know i pushed that forward

2161
02:10:25,360 --> 02:10:27,440
again we're starting to see an uptick in

2162
02:10:27,440 --> 02:10:30,800
some of the part one primes in the city

2163
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:32,560
where we have done very well in

2164
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:36,000
comparison to other communities

2165
02:10:36,000 --> 02:10:37,679
these activities

2166
02:10:37,679 --> 02:10:39,199
why we've done better than other

2167
02:10:39,199 --> 02:10:41,920
communities is our housing program stuff

2168
02:10:41,920 --> 02:10:44,960
we're doing in code enforcement uh other

2169
02:10:44,960 --> 02:10:47,760
broader based engagement that creates

2170
02:10:47,760 --> 02:10:49,199
stability in the neighborhood and

2171
02:10:49,199 --> 02:10:51,520
displace some of the negative activities

2172
02:10:51,520 --> 02:10:53,840
and so where we have the ability to fix

2173
02:10:53,840 --> 02:10:55,520
up housing

2174
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:59,119
do job and workforce creation

2175
02:10:59,119 --> 02:11:01,280
they're significant and

2176
02:11:01,280 --> 02:11:04,480
we're in august the reality is even if

2177
02:11:04,480 --> 02:11:06,239
everybody agreed on this tonight we

2178
02:11:06,239 --> 02:11:07,599
wouldn't be able to do most of these

2179
02:11:07,599 --> 02:11:10,400
until mid-september at best by the time

2180
02:11:10,400 --> 02:11:13,360
you get it passed get the

2181
02:11:13,360 --> 02:11:15,760
contract signed get things out

2182
02:11:15,760 --> 02:11:16,560
and

2183
02:11:16,560 --> 02:11:18,880
these things do have an impact

2184
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:21,199
and we have to be cognizant of that

2185
02:11:21,199 --> 02:11:24,719
going forward so i don't mind waiting

2186
02:11:24,719 --> 02:11:25,679
uh

2187
02:11:25,679 --> 02:11:27,520
two weeks bringing forth the other

2188
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:29,599
projects uh the other thing so that we

2189
02:11:29,599 --> 02:11:31,440
can look at it and discuss it

2190
02:11:31,440 --> 02:11:32,719
if you wanted

2191
02:11:32,719 --> 02:11:34,159
to do it tonight

2192
02:11:34,159 --> 02:11:35,440
i don't know

2193
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:37,360
put it on the development staff or the

2194
02:11:37,360 --> 02:11:39,679
chief will send a police car to their

2195
02:11:39,679 --> 02:11:42,079
house having come back in

2196
02:11:42,079 --> 02:11:43,599
no i'm serious

2197
02:11:43,599 --> 02:11:46,719
let's stop this and if you want to do it

2198
02:11:46,719 --> 02:11:48,560
i expect the staff to be available to

2199
02:11:48,560 --> 02:11:50,159
make things happen here if you want to

2200
02:11:50,159 --> 02:11:52,639
wait two weeks we'll also do it but if

2201
02:11:52,639 --> 02:11:54,239
you want to do it tonight

2202
02:11:54,239 --> 02:11:56,480
i expect the staff to rise the occasion

2203
02:11:56,480 --> 02:12:00,159
to whatever we need to follow through on

2204
02:12:00,159 --> 02:12:01,760
mr williams

2205
02:12:01,760 --> 02:12:03,599
i think it's worth for stopping that

2206
02:12:03,599 --> 02:12:04,800
we're still

2207
02:12:04,800 --> 02:12:08,079
in the midst of a pandemic

2208
02:12:08,079 --> 02:12:11,360
and there are many facets of

2209
02:12:11,360 --> 02:12:13,840
lean times and manufacturing issues that

2210
02:12:13,840 --> 02:12:16,079
are outside of our control

2211
02:12:16,079 --> 02:12:19,199
and regardless of how fast we sprint

2212
02:12:19,199 --> 02:12:20,400
to

2213
02:12:20,400 --> 02:12:23,199
getting answers to the community

2214
02:12:23,199 --> 02:12:24,960
those efforts could be for not like we

2215
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:26,639
don't know and that's just part of the

2216
02:12:26,639 --> 02:12:28,719
complexity with being a public servant

2217
02:12:28,719 --> 02:12:32,000
in 2022 we're very reactionary to how

2218
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:34,239
the environment is shaping the

2219
02:12:34,239 --> 02:12:35,599
boundaries of our decision-making

2220
02:12:35,599 --> 02:12:37,760
abilities so

2221
02:12:37,760 --> 02:12:39,280
i

2222
02:12:39,280 --> 02:12:40,800
am

2223
02:12:40,800 --> 02:12:43,280
receptive to the mayor's comment but

2224
02:12:43,280 --> 02:12:45,520
again it's our hands are tied in certain

2225
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,719
areas i think for me not looking past my

2226
02:12:48,719 --> 02:12:50,560
current tenure on the city council i

2227
02:12:50,560 --> 02:12:52,159
think it's important in me being

2228
02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:53,599
intentional that i would like to look at

2229
02:12:53,599 --> 02:12:57,030
all the projects collectively

2230
02:12:57,040 --> 02:12:59,040
it's patrick well so

2231
02:12:59,040 --> 02:13:02,000
i just want to say that

2232
02:13:02,000 --> 02:13:05,119
you know i'm just guessing

2233
02:13:05,119 --> 02:13:06,719
given our track record

2234
02:13:06,719 --> 02:13:09,119
that in two weeks we'll be presented

2235
02:13:09,119 --> 02:13:10,719
with materials

2236
02:13:10,719 --> 02:13:14,239
and i can pretty much think that

2237
02:13:14,239 --> 02:13:15,440
it's going to take some time to look

2238
02:13:15,440 --> 02:13:17,040
through those materials

2239
02:13:17,040 --> 02:13:18,480
um

2240
02:13:18,480 --> 02:13:19,440
so

2241
02:13:19,440 --> 02:13:21,360
i think that we won't be making a

2242
02:13:21,360 --> 02:13:23,440
decision in two weeks either it's just

2243
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:24,560
basically

2244
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:27,840
how i feel you may not make a blanket

2245
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:30,320
decision in two weeks but if we could

2246
02:13:30,320 --> 02:13:32,239
start to chip away and prioritize say

2247
02:13:32,239 --> 02:13:35,520
okay we've got a consensus on

2248
02:13:35,520 --> 02:13:37,040
project a

2249
02:13:37,040 --> 02:13:39,679
let's move that forward project b and

2250
02:13:39,679 --> 02:13:41,679
then at some point we run out of money

2251
02:13:41,679 --> 02:13:45,040
it's the other side of it so what

2252
02:13:45,040 --> 02:13:47,440
projects have the biggest multiplier

2253
02:13:47,440 --> 02:13:49,360
have the biggest impact

2254
02:13:49,360 --> 02:13:50,800
on

2255
02:13:50,800 --> 02:13:53,920
the city budget in a positive way or

2256
02:13:53,920 --> 02:13:56,079
create jobs

2257
02:13:56,079 --> 02:13:59,280
across the board you know

2258
02:13:59,280 --> 02:14:01,119
we're not going to be able to give money

2259
02:14:01,119 --> 02:14:03,920
to everybody we all know that and

2260
02:14:03,920 --> 02:14:06,159
it's just part of the decision making

2261
02:14:06,159 --> 02:14:06,960
and

2262
02:14:06,960 --> 02:14:09,280
mr williams is correct with the pandemic

2263
02:14:09,280 --> 02:14:10,639
where some of these things that we would

2264
02:14:10,639 --> 02:14:12,480
like to have happen

2265
02:14:12,480 --> 02:14:13,840
tomorrow

2266
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:16,000
even if we all agreed

2267
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,000
are not going to happen because of other

2268
02:14:18,000 --> 02:14:19,360
factors that are in play within the

2269
02:14:19,360 --> 02:14:20,960
market in

2270
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:22,320
just

2271
02:14:22,320 --> 02:14:26,239
global politics and supply chain

2272
02:14:26,239 --> 02:14:28,000
and i just want to clarify that every

2273
02:14:28,000 --> 02:14:30,079
single council member got the

2274
02:14:30,079 --> 02:14:32,000
drive to download all the applications

2275
02:14:32,000 --> 02:14:34,239
that were submitted um alex sent that

2276
02:14:34,239 --> 02:14:36,480
out and in addition mr palomini asked

2277
02:14:36,480 --> 02:14:38,639
for the recommendations from the

2278
02:14:38,639 --> 02:14:41,840
development and ms diaz sent that out so

2279
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:43,520
we we already have that information we

2280
02:14:43,520 --> 02:14:45,599
could go home today and start looking at

2281
02:14:45,599 --> 02:14:46,400
that

2282
02:14:46,400 --> 02:14:48,800
to see that so um we would have an

2283
02:14:48,800 --> 02:14:51,040
opportunity to review it then so or and

2284
02:14:51,040 --> 02:14:53,840
we could also um ask that the mayor is

2285
02:14:53,840 --> 02:14:56,320
willing to call them back in today so we

2286
02:14:56,320 --> 02:14:58,079
could ask that the department of

2287
02:14:58,079 --> 02:15:00,320
development have everything to us within

2288
02:15:00,320 --> 02:15:02,159
a week so we have an opportunity for a

2289
02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:04,239
week ahead of time to be able to look at

2290
02:15:04,239 --> 02:15:06,159
that and not just not the thursday

2291
02:15:06,159 --> 02:15:08,800
before right so okay i misunderstood i

2292
02:15:08,800 --> 02:15:10,239
thought we were going to get a chance to

2293
02:15:10,239 --> 02:15:12,800
see what the committees yes

2294
02:15:12,800 --> 02:15:14,960
yeah the recommendations okay the

2295
02:15:14,960 --> 02:15:15,840
correct

2296
02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:20,150
i do not think that we have seen okay

2297
02:15:20,150 --> 02:15:23,040
[Music]

2298
02:15:23,040 --> 02:15:24,480
and miss michael can send that out to

2299
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:25,440
you

2300
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:27,679
oh you have that information

2301
02:15:27,679 --> 02:15:29,199
yes i sent you an email saying we got it

2302
02:15:29,199 --> 02:15:30,320
in yes

2303
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:32,159
i thought you said okay so remember i

2304
02:15:32,159 --> 02:15:35,199
sent the email the same as you see here

2305
02:15:35,199 --> 02:15:36,800
yes so she has that and so you can send

2306
02:15:36,800 --> 02:15:39,280
it out to everyone

2307
02:15:39,280 --> 02:15:41,520
okay

2308
02:15:41,520 --> 02:15:44,400
well i will ask that be sent out that

2309
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:45,760
probably should have been sent out

2310
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:47,119
regardless

2311
02:15:47,119 --> 02:15:49,119
i don't know when it was received

2312
02:15:49,119 --> 02:15:51,199
but it should have been sent out in my

2313
02:15:51,199 --> 02:15:53,280
opinion at that time

2314
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:55,920
but if you would please send that up

2315
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:58,880
so everybody has a copy to be able to

2316
02:15:58,880 --> 02:16:02,390
look at them

2317
02:16:02,400 --> 02:16:04,079
yeah i don't know why it wasn't sent out

2318
02:16:04,079 --> 02:16:05,840
either i didn't we did receive that

2319
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:07,119
email

2320
02:16:07,119 --> 02:16:09,199
last week oversight we'll send it out um

2321
02:16:09,199 --> 02:16:11,360
i thought that would be my my thought

2322
02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:12,880
was that we would get everybody's all

2323
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:14,560
the recommendations sent to us all in

2324
02:16:14,560 --> 02:16:16,880
time the city of the department of

2325
02:16:16,880 --> 02:16:19,119
development including

2326
02:16:19,119 --> 02:16:21,119
they say there's other information about

2327
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:22,880
like some things on the be aren't they

2328
02:16:22,880 --> 02:16:23,840
can't move forward because of the

2329
02:16:23,840 --> 02:16:25,840
funding and we do it all at once but if

2330
02:16:25,840 --> 02:16:27,360
you would like that separately sure

2331
02:16:27,360 --> 02:16:29,520
that's fine okay

2332
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:30,239
yeah

2333
02:16:30,239 --> 02:16:33,439
she'll send it to the entire council

2334
02:16:33,439 --> 02:16:36,080
um i just i don't want to get

2335
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:39,349
so caught up in my phone

2336
02:16:39,359 --> 02:16:40,880
it's important that we all have access

2337
02:16:40,880 --> 02:16:42,319
to the information so we can make

2338
02:16:42,319 --> 02:16:44,479
informed decisions i agree with that i

2339
02:16:44,479 --> 02:16:47,519
just think that you know we can play a

2340
02:16:47,519 --> 02:16:49,359
dangerous game like falling into kind of

2341
02:16:49,359 --> 02:16:52,549
like the

2342
02:16:52,559 --> 02:16:54,000
gotcha moment what should happen you

2343
02:16:54,000 --> 02:16:56,000
know and i just don't think that that

2344
02:16:56,000 --> 02:16:58,080
lends itself uh well for the work that

2345
02:16:58,080 --> 02:16:59,920
is ahead of us so i just want to be

2346
02:16:59,920 --> 02:17:01,519
clear about that and i also think that

2347
02:17:01,519 --> 02:17:02,559
um

2348
02:17:02,559 --> 02:17:03,439
you know

2349
02:17:03,439 --> 02:17:05,519
we all are

2350
02:17:05,519 --> 02:17:07,040
responding to

2351
02:17:07,040 --> 02:17:09,200
um i have a lot of trust in the mayor

2352
02:17:09,200 --> 02:17:11,359
and his team around you know

2353
02:17:11,359 --> 02:17:13,280
recommendations and

2354
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:15,920
a lot of trust in the community

2355
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:17,920
that was

2356
02:17:17,920 --> 02:17:20,240
community members that were assembled to

2357
02:17:20,240 --> 02:17:21,599
you know make sure that what we were

2358
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:24,160
doing was representing their voices and

2359
02:17:24,160 --> 02:17:26,479
i don't think that those ideas are you

2360
02:17:26,479 --> 02:17:28,960
know opposing one another i think that

2361
02:17:28,960 --> 02:17:30,639
they um compliment each other and ensure

2362
02:17:30,639 --> 02:17:32,479
a more equitable process

2363
02:17:32,479 --> 02:17:33,280
and

2364
02:17:33,280 --> 02:17:34,719
i just want to make sure that we keep

2365
02:17:34,719 --> 02:17:41,990
our eye on that and as a priority um

2366
02:17:42,000 --> 02:17:43,040
right so

2367
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:44,000
it looks

2368
02:17:44,000 --> 02:17:46,160
unless there's some correction

2369
02:17:46,160 --> 02:17:49,200
it looks like we will be two weeks

2370
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:52,150
correct

2371
02:17:52,160 --> 02:17:53,280
all right

2372
02:17:53,280 --> 02:17:57,439
well then we will move on

2373
02:17:57,439 --> 02:18:00,960
next is amending the code for the

2374
02:18:00,960 --> 02:18:04,479
section 248-101-c

2375
02:18:04,479 --> 02:18:07,359
regarding redeeming of off-road vehicles

2376
02:18:07,359 --> 02:18:09,679
there is a public hearing on the 25th of

2377
02:18:09,679 --> 02:18:10,800
july

2378
02:18:10,800 --> 02:18:13,120
i don't believe there were any comments

2379
02:18:13,120 --> 02:18:15,359
for that

2380
02:18:15,359 --> 02:18:17,599
so we can look forward unless there's

2381
02:18:17,599 --> 02:18:18,960
any comments

2382
02:18:18,960 --> 02:18:21,040
hopefully

2383
02:18:21,040 --> 02:18:22,880
i have a motion

2384
02:18:22,880 --> 02:18:26,230
a

2385
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:29,439
and next is fees for towing and storing

2386
02:18:29,439 --> 02:18:32,880
off-pro vehicles mr cole thank you um as

2387
02:18:32,880 --> 02:18:35,200
a side note before i present um the

2388
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:37,280
information related to the speed these

2389
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:39,519
speeds that i'm going to be discussing

2390
02:18:39,519 --> 02:18:42,000
tonight came from the police department

2391
02:18:42,000 --> 02:18:44,160
so this is not me making up any fees

2392
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:46,319
this was provided provided by assistant

2393
02:18:46,319 --> 02:18:48,080
chief whipple

2394
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:50,240
on august 8th so next week the city

2395
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:51,439
council is going to be considering the

2396
02:18:51,439 --> 02:18:54,880
ordinance to amend section 248-101-c

2397
02:18:54,880 --> 02:18:57,120
of the code to set a towing and hauling

2398
02:18:57,120 --> 02:18:59,439
fee and storage charges of off-road

2399
02:18:59,439 --> 02:19:01,679
vehicles by resolution

2400
02:19:01,679 --> 02:19:03,920
currently the section of the code sets

2401
02:19:03,920 --> 02:19:06,399
the fee for at seventy dollars per tow

2402
02:19:06,399 --> 02:19:08,319
and haul and twenty dollars per day for

2403
02:19:08,319 --> 02:19:11,519
storage uh the city's seeking to set the

2404
02:19:11,519 --> 02:19:14,479
towing and hauling fee to 165 dollars

2405
02:19:14,479 --> 02:19:16,719
this is in line with the current uh tow

2406
02:19:16,719 --> 02:19:19,359
fee that we have uh for automobiles

2407
02:19:19,359 --> 02:19:21,200
the tow companies need to use a flatbed

2408
02:19:21,200 --> 02:19:23,599
truck to tow off-road vehicles

2409
02:19:23,599 --> 02:19:24,719
since they're less stable than

2410
02:19:24,719 --> 02:19:26,000
automobiles

2411
02:19:26,000 --> 02:19:28,319
when towed and the city is seeking to

2412
02:19:28,319 --> 02:19:31,760
set the storage fee at 40. per day

2413
02:19:31,760 --> 02:19:33,599
this increases due to the need for

2414
02:19:33,599 --> 02:19:36,479
inside storage of off-road vehicles

2415
02:19:36,479 --> 02:19:38,559
so the proposed increase in fees does

2416
02:19:38,559 --> 02:19:40,000
not have an administrative cost on the

2417
02:19:40,000 --> 02:19:41,359
city

2418
02:19:41,359 --> 02:19:42,639
this is the

2419
02:19:42,639 --> 02:19:44,240
amount that would be

2420
02:19:44,240 --> 02:19:45,359
set

2421
02:19:45,359 --> 02:19:46,800
to

2422
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:48,880
cover this the towing costs that the

2423
02:19:48,880 --> 02:19:50,560
companies are charging essentially the

2424
02:19:50,560 --> 02:19:51,680
city

2425
02:19:51,680 --> 02:19:53,760
and then obviously the storage costs as

2426
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:56,000
well

2427
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:58,000
while there has been an increase in the

2428
02:19:58,000 --> 02:19:59,680
number of tickets issued and the

2429
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:01,520
confiscation related to illegal off-road

2430
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:02,960
vehicle usage

2431
02:20:02,960 --> 02:20:04,800
obviously this continues to be an issue

2432
02:20:04,800 --> 02:20:06,240
in the city

2433
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:07,760
and then these increased towing and

2434
02:20:07,760 --> 02:20:09,840
storage fees are directly related to the

2435
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:12,880
costs as i said so looking to pass out

2436
02:20:12,880 --> 02:20:14,640
of committee tonight

2437
02:20:14,640 --> 02:20:16,160
a legislative request for the full

2438
02:20:16,160 --> 02:20:18,160
council's consideration for a resolution

2439
02:20:18,160 --> 02:20:22,000
setting the fees at 165 um as the tone

2440
02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:24,240
hall fee and forty dollars per day

2441
02:20:24,240 --> 02:20:25,600
storage fee

2442
02:20:25,600 --> 02:20:27,439
are there any questions

2443
02:20:27,439 --> 02:20:28,720
have a motion

2444
02:20:28,720 --> 02:20:31,349
a

2445
02:20:31,359 --> 02:20:34,080
next is a discussion of noise violation

2446
02:20:34,080 --> 02:20:35,120
issues

2447
02:20:35,120 --> 02:20:38,160
as we all know that would be me

2448
02:20:38,160 --> 02:20:41,200
as we all know noise issues are one of

2449
02:20:41,200 --> 02:20:42,960
the biggest complaints

2450
02:20:42,960 --> 02:20:44,560
in the city

2451
02:20:44,560 --> 02:20:46,880
i think we all probably get those

2452
02:20:46,880 --> 02:20:48,479
complaints

2453
02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:50,080
so

2454
02:20:50,080 --> 02:20:52,399
how to deal with this situation is

2455
02:20:52,399 --> 02:20:54,960
complex right

2456
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:58,160
and one way of going about it is to use

2457
02:20:58,160 --> 02:20:59,520
technology

2458
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:01,520
we have some of that in place

2459
02:21:01,520 --> 02:21:04,000
with the smart cities technology

2460
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:07,200
where we can use decibel meters or

2461
02:21:07,200 --> 02:21:09,680
sound measurement design devices i want

2462
02:21:09,680 --> 02:21:10,399
to

2463
02:21:10,399 --> 02:21:13,120
be clear these are not recording or

2464
02:21:13,120 --> 02:21:14,880
voice recording devices they are

2465
02:21:14,880 --> 02:21:16,240
strictly

2466
02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:17,439
decibel

2467
02:21:17,439 --> 02:21:18,720
levels

2468
02:21:18,720 --> 02:21:21,200
um because that is a concern

2469
02:21:21,200 --> 02:21:23,040
and a legitimate one

2470
02:21:23,040 --> 02:21:23,920
so

2471
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:27,120
how can we use this technology to

2472
02:21:27,120 --> 02:21:28,960
help with some of the issues that we

2473
02:21:28,960 --> 02:21:30,399
have in the city

2474
02:21:30,399 --> 02:21:33,280
um you know i know in my neighborhood

2475
02:21:33,280 --> 02:21:34,640
there was

2476
02:21:34,640 --> 02:21:36,399
a music blasting

2477
02:21:36,399 --> 02:21:38,560
over a half mile away

2478
02:21:38,560 --> 02:21:40,880
we paste it out

2479
02:21:40,880 --> 02:21:42,240
and

2480
02:21:42,240 --> 02:21:44,160
you could hear it in my house with the

2481
02:21:44,160 --> 02:21:45,520
air conditioning

2482
02:21:45,520 --> 02:21:48,080
on the television on and the windows

2483
02:21:48,080 --> 02:21:49,120
closed

2484
02:21:49,120 --> 02:21:52,240
as if i was playing it loudly in my own

2485
02:21:52,240 --> 02:21:54,399
home

2486
02:21:54,399 --> 02:21:55,840
i'm not the only one that's in this

2487
02:21:55,840 --> 02:21:58,479
situation every single neighborhood has

2488
02:21:58,479 --> 02:22:00,560
these issues

2489
02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:01,760
so

2490
02:22:01,760 --> 02:22:03,600
how can we go about

2491
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:05,280
addressing it

2492
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:09,040
the technology lends itself to

2493
02:22:09,040 --> 02:22:12,000
help deal with some of these issues

2494
02:22:12,000 --> 02:22:13,840
it reduces

2495
02:22:13,840 --> 02:22:15,680
the

2496
02:22:15,680 --> 02:22:18,000
interaction which would largely be a

2497
02:22:18,000 --> 02:22:20,080
negative interaction with the police

2498
02:22:20,080 --> 02:22:21,120
department

2499
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:24,399
and people who are violators

2500
02:22:24,399 --> 02:22:28,479
so that is one good aspect of

2501
02:22:28,479 --> 02:22:29,600
people

2502
02:22:29,600 --> 02:22:30,640
who

2503
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:32,240
probably don't want to be told to turn

2504
02:22:32,240 --> 02:22:33,600
down the music

2505
02:22:33,600 --> 02:22:34,479
and

2506
02:22:34,479 --> 02:22:36,399
let's be honest sometimes

2507
02:22:36,399 --> 02:22:40,240
they are drinking and not always the

2508
02:22:40,240 --> 02:22:44,319
best situation to have a confrontation

2509
02:22:44,319 --> 02:22:47,280
technology would allow us to

2510
02:22:47,280 --> 02:22:49,680
alleviate that issue

2511
02:22:49,680 --> 02:22:52,560
we have the ability with our technology

2512
02:22:52,560 --> 02:22:55,280
but also supplementing it with

2513
02:22:55,280 --> 02:22:57,359
low power wide

2514
02:22:57,359 --> 02:22:59,600
area radio receivers

2515
02:22:59,600 --> 02:23:02,080
that could be integrated into our

2516
02:23:02,080 --> 02:23:04,800
network servers

2517
02:23:04,800 --> 02:23:06,800
this

2518
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:08,240
could help to

2519
02:23:08,240 --> 02:23:11,600
this would allow us to triangulate and

2520
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:13,200
figure out where the

2521
02:23:13,200 --> 02:23:15,760
noise violation is coming from

2522
02:23:15,760 --> 02:23:17,520
other cities

2523
02:23:17,520 --> 02:23:19,840
i think are using this

2524
02:23:19,840 --> 02:23:23,120
there is ability with

2525
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:26,000
artificial intelligence to identify

2526
02:23:26,000 --> 02:23:27,040
sounds

2527
02:23:27,040 --> 02:23:30,160
there's a major project in new york city

2528
02:23:30,160 --> 02:23:33,040
i believe it's called sony where they

2529
02:23:33,040 --> 02:23:33,220
are

2530
02:23:33,220 --> 02:23:35,359
[Music]

2531
02:23:35,359 --> 02:23:38,000
identifying all the sounds and it allows

2532
02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:40,319
the artificial intelligence

2533
02:23:40,319 --> 02:23:43,120
to figure out is this

2534
02:23:43,120 --> 02:23:46,800
just a police siren or is it loud music

2535
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:50,720
is it just somebody arguing whatever

2536
02:23:50,720 --> 02:23:55,040
now this was just a discussion item

2537
02:23:55,040 --> 02:23:57,920
to see if we could move forward at least

2538
02:23:57,920 --> 02:24:01,680
getting some cost estimates as to

2539
02:24:01,680 --> 02:24:02,560
how

2540
02:24:02,560 --> 02:24:04,640
expensive this would be

2541
02:24:04,640 --> 02:24:06,240
because quite frankly we need to do

2542
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:07,520
something

2543
02:24:07,520 --> 02:24:11,040
enforcement is a major issue

2544
02:24:11,040 --> 02:24:12,240
and

2545
02:24:12,240 --> 02:24:14,960
the only other way i perceive being able

2546
02:24:14,960 --> 02:24:16,000
to do this

2547
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:17,520
would be to hire a lot of police

2548
02:24:17,520 --> 02:24:20,240
officers which would be very expensive

2549
02:24:20,240 --> 02:24:21,439
and again

2550
02:24:21,439 --> 02:24:23,520
those interactions probably won't be the

2551
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:25,040
most positive

2552
02:24:25,040 --> 02:24:28,000
um we could use the data that we collect

2553
02:24:28,000 --> 02:24:30,720
put it into a gis

2554
02:24:30,720 --> 02:24:33,359
system in order to

2555
02:24:33,359 --> 02:24:35,840
create an environmental noise assessment

2556
02:24:35,840 --> 02:24:38,160
that allows us to develop a soundscape

2557
02:24:38,160 --> 02:24:39,359
approach

2558
02:24:39,359 --> 02:24:42,800
and figure out where the real problems

2559
02:24:42,800 --> 02:24:44,640
are not that they're limited to one

2560
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:46,880
particular area as i said before

2561
02:24:46,880 --> 02:24:48,640
they're all around the

2562
02:24:48,640 --> 02:24:50,640
every single neighborhood

2563
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,359
so my recommendation would be

2564
02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:56,800
to ask the mayor and his team to

2565
02:24:56,800 --> 02:24:58,720
come up with some sort of cost estimate

2566
02:24:58,720 --> 02:25:00,960
in four weeks so that we could further

2567
02:25:00,960 --> 02:25:02,800
discuss whether or not this would be

2568
02:25:02,800 --> 02:25:03,920
something

2569
02:25:03,920 --> 02:25:07,830
we would like to pursue

2570
02:25:07,840 --> 02:25:10,640
there any questions yes

2571
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:11,439
so

2572
02:25:11,439 --> 02:25:12,880
how would the police department i'm

2573
02:25:12,880 --> 02:25:14,479
assuming they would be somehow involved

2574
02:25:14,479 --> 02:25:17,439
in this and i didn't really um

2575
02:25:17,439 --> 02:25:20,880
i didn't really get that from your explanation so how would the

2576
02:25:20,880 --> 02:25:22,240
police department

2577
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:24,960
be involved in this process in terms of

2578
02:25:24,960 --> 02:25:27,120
pulling this together for the time being

2579
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:29,040
you could code the

2580
02:25:29,040 --> 02:25:33,040
software so that a violation whatever we

2581
02:25:33,040 --> 02:25:35,040
dictate what would be a violation right

2582
02:25:35,040 --> 02:25:37,120
now i'm just making up numbers let's say

2583
02:25:37,120 --> 02:25:39,439
it's a half hour of

2584
02:25:39,439 --> 02:25:41,200
a decibel of

2585
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:43,439
let's say ninth again just making up

2586
02:25:43,439 --> 02:25:44,880
numbers

2587
02:25:44,880 --> 02:25:49,120
and there's 30 minutes of noise above 90

2588
02:25:49,120 --> 02:25:51,840
and it's identified not to be a mower or

2589
02:25:51,840 --> 02:25:54,160
something along those lines a message

2590
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:55,840
goes directly to the police it's put

2591
02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:58,240
into the system because quite frankly a

2592
02:25:58,240 --> 02:26:00,000
lot of people have just given up on

2593
02:26:00,000 --> 02:26:02,800
calling the police because

2594
02:26:02,800 --> 02:26:05,920
a lot of times they don't show up

2595
02:26:05,920 --> 02:26:07,760
that doesn't correct the problem but at

2596
02:26:07,760 --> 02:26:10,240
least it is put into the system where

2597
02:26:10,240 --> 02:26:12,960
they can put it into our ddax system

2598
02:26:12,960 --> 02:26:15,359
the other aspect is that we are moving

2599
02:26:15,359 --> 02:26:17,439
towards a technology and if we get that

2600
02:26:17,439 --> 02:26:18,479
state

2601
02:26:18,479 --> 02:26:20,960
approval for the home rule

2602
02:26:20,960 --> 02:26:22,880
there is ability to

2603
02:26:22,880 --> 02:26:25,680
identify violators and have the ticket

2604
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:27,840
sent right to the house at some point

2605
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:29,680
down in the future the technology is

2606
02:26:29,680 --> 02:26:31,040
moving that way

2607
02:26:31,040 --> 02:26:35,080
in a rapid manner

2608
02:26:35,080 --> 02:26:36,800
[Music]

2609
02:26:36,800 --> 02:26:38,160
i guess my follow-up questions were the

2610
02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:40,240
police involved in all of your

2611
02:26:40,240 --> 02:26:42,319
in your opinions together have there's

2612
02:26:42,319 --> 02:26:43,760
been conversations

2613
02:26:43,760 --> 02:26:45,359
with with the police department

2614
02:26:45,359 --> 02:26:46,840
regarding that

2615
02:26:46,840 --> 02:26:50,240
we i mean the reality is the enforcement

2616
02:26:50,240 --> 02:26:53,680
aspect is the biggest problem we have

2617
02:26:53,680 --> 02:26:56,240
i know i did have a brief conversation

2618
02:26:56,240 --> 02:26:58,399
with the chief and he is

2619
02:26:58,399 --> 02:27:00,080
um

2620
02:27:00,080 --> 02:27:03,600
favorable of not having officers have to

2621
02:27:03,600 --> 02:27:05,439
deal with these type of situations

2622
02:27:05,439 --> 02:27:07,760
because of the interaction

2623
02:27:07,760 --> 02:27:09,600
but

2624
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:12,080
he did not provide any

2625
02:27:12,080 --> 02:27:14,000
i guess meaningful

2626
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:15,600
or any

2627
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:17,680
substantive

2628
02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:19,280
comments or criticism

2629
02:27:19,280 --> 02:27:22,080
other than that

2630
02:27:22,080 --> 02:27:22,960
yes

2631
02:27:22,960 --> 02:27:24,479
so

2632
02:27:24,479 --> 02:27:27,200
when i think about noise complaints um

2633
02:27:27,200 --> 02:27:28,880
and you know a lot of different types of

2634
02:27:28,880 --> 02:27:31,040
noises music coming you know people in

2635
02:27:31,040 --> 02:27:32,160
the car

2636
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:34,240
park davis and motorcycles

2637
02:27:34,240 --> 02:27:36,160
there's so many different i think about

2638
02:27:36,160 --> 02:27:37,520
like

2639
02:27:37,520 --> 02:27:40,080
how will this

2640
02:27:40,080 --> 02:27:41,200
uh

2641
02:27:41,200 --> 02:27:42,560
technology

2642
02:27:42,560 --> 02:27:44,720
impact that person's quality of life in

2643
02:27:44,720 --> 02:27:46,000
the moment

2644
02:27:46,000 --> 02:27:47,120
i guess like

2645
02:27:47,120 --> 02:27:50,160
so this is so really what replaced this

2646
02:27:50,160 --> 02:27:52,800
matters are you meaning the neighborhood

2647
02:27:52,800 --> 02:27:54,240
or the violator

2648
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:56,720
like so if

2649
02:27:56,720 --> 02:27:57,520
the

2650
02:27:57,520 --> 02:28:00,240
people who came down to our meeting and

2651
02:28:00,240 --> 02:28:01,680
they you know they were really upset

2652
02:28:01,680 --> 02:28:02,479
about

2653
02:28:02,479 --> 02:28:04,160
them

2654
02:28:04,160 --> 02:28:06,640
having to call the police um and they

2655
02:28:06,640 --> 02:28:08,080
were saying that you know

2656
02:28:08,080 --> 02:28:09,439
our paraphrases but they weren't

2657
02:28:09,439 --> 02:28:19,349
satisfied with anything have been done

2658
02:28:19,359 --> 02:28:20,800
robot that's going to send a ticket to

2659
02:28:20,800 --> 02:28:22,960
my neighbor you know three days later or

2660
02:28:22,960 --> 02:28:24,479
something you know i don't know how that

2661
02:28:24,479 --> 02:28:26,240
you know

2662
02:28:26,240 --> 02:28:30,309
in in the moment

2663
02:28:30,319 --> 02:28:31,040
so

2664
02:28:31,040 --> 02:28:33,520
very very good question i actually

2665
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:35,680
thought quite a bit about that myself so

2666
02:28:35,680 --> 02:28:38,319
two things uh so with the motorcycle the

2667
02:28:38,319 --> 02:28:41,840
cars there is ability with lprs to

2668
02:28:41,840 --> 02:28:44,319
identify the vehicle have a ticket sent

2669
02:28:44,319 --> 02:28:46,960
directly to those individuals

2670
02:28:46,960 --> 02:28:48,880
as far as let's say

2671
02:28:48,880 --> 02:28:50,880
i'm living next door to you and i'm

2672
02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:53,359
blasting music and it's two in the

2673
02:28:53,359 --> 02:28:56,560
morning and you're like what the heck

2674
02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:58,160
you know

2675
02:28:58,160 --> 02:29:01,760
the aspect of are you going to be

2676
02:29:01,760 --> 02:29:04,080
satisfied for like a better word

2677
02:29:04,080 --> 02:29:06,479
immediately the answer is no but the

2678
02:29:06,479 --> 02:29:08,800
only way to change this is behavioral

2679
02:29:08,800 --> 02:29:09,840
change

2680
02:29:09,840 --> 02:29:13,359
and unfortunately there's not a way to

2681
02:29:13,359 --> 02:29:15,920
positively impact young people to turn

2682
02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:18,319
down their music the only way would be

2683
02:29:18,319 --> 02:29:20,479
through a fine and to try to get

2684
02:29:20,479 --> 02:29:22,880
behavioral change that way so it's more

2685
02:29:22,880 --> 02:29:25,200
of a long-term play

2686
02:29:25,200 --> 02:29:26,720
but we

2687
02:29:26,720 --> 02:29:28,319
in my opinion we need to really do

2688
02:29:28,319 --> 02:29:30,640
something so that's an excellent

2689
02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:32,000
good point

2690
02:29:32,000 --> 02:29:33,680
oh you got one go ahead yeah i was just

2691
02:29:33,680 --> 02:29:36,000
i was wondering like you know i'm sure

2692
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:38,080
this is you know kind of further down in

2693
02:29:38,080 --> 02:29:40,240
the conversation but is there because

2694
02:29:40,240 --> 02:29:42,960
anytime i think about like that uh yeah

2695
02:29:42,960 --> 02:29:45,680
i know that there's like you know

2696
02:29:45,680 --> 02:29:47,680
there's actually bias within those

2697
02:29:47,680 --> 02:29:49,200
systems it can be biased within those

2698
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:51,040
systems so i just think about like you

2699
02:29:51,040 --> 02:29:52,800
know us again us being just being really

2700
02:29:52,800 --> 02:29:54,640
intentional that

2701
02:29:54,640 --> 02:29:56,720
whatever we're looking at that we keep

2702
02:29:56,720 --> 02:30:00,000
that um lens for us to say okay how are

2703
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:02,240
we gonna ensure that this

2704
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:04,000
you know isn't disproportionate negative

2705
02:30:04,000 --> 02:30:06,399
outcomes for a certain neighborhood um a

2706
02:30:06,399 --> 02:30:08,319
certain demographic of our city so

2707
02:30:08,319 --> 02:30:09,840
that's just something well the ai is

2708
02:30:09,840 --> 02:30:12,960
strictly determining what is the noise

2709
02:30:12,960 --> 02:30:14,800
um and

2710
02:30:14,800 --> 02:30:16,960
you know regardless of neighborhood

2711
02:30:16,960 --> 02:30:20,080
that's going to pop up so

2712
02:30:20,080 --> 02:30:20,880
i

2713
02:30:20,880 --> 02:30:23,600
think that's where the ai park plays and

2714
02:30:23,600 --> 02:30:26,319
it identifies music versus a lawnmower

2715
02:30:26,319 --> 02:30:27,439
versus

2716
02:30:27,439 --> 02:30:29,600
you know we're just out on the porch

2717
02:30:29,600 --> 02:30:32,640
talking um that kind of deal yeah

2718
02:30:32,640 --> 02:30:34,160
i can appreciate that i think that we

2719
02:30:34,160 --> 02:30:36,080
just would be

2720
02:30:36,080 --> 02:30:37,439
those are the questions that need to be

2721
02:30:37,439 --> 02:30:39,120
asked and maybe we just think about like

2722
02:30:39,120 --> 02:30:43,349
how do we you know set some um

2723
02:30:43,359 --> 02:30:44,800
some checkpoints you know with that

2724
02:30:44,800 --> 02:30:46,560
because i think that if we're not

2725
02:30:46,560 --> 02:30:48,080
intentional about

2726
02:30:48,080 --> 02:30:50,560
if we kind of just leave it to say like

2727
02:30:50,560 --> 02:30:52,800
the ai's i'm gonna respond to this

2728
02:30:52,800 --> 02:30:54,800
um you know like

2729
02:30:54,800 --> 02:30:57,280
i was looking at a a netflix special

2730
02:30:57,280 --> 02:30:58,399
because i'm really serious about where i

2731
02:30:58,399 --> 02:31:00,640
cite my information from um

2732
02:31:00,640 --> 02:31:02,240
but i remember they were talking about

2733
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:04,640
the the bias uh that's happening racial

2734
02:31:04,640 --> 02:31:06,319
violence within an ayat system so i just

2735
02:31:06,319 --> 02:31:07,600
want to be careful because you know

2736
02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:09,359
there can be certain type of music that

2737
02:31:09,359 --> 02:31:11,200
can trigger something maybe different

2738
02:31:11,200 --> 02:31:12,960
and so i just it's just something that's

2739
02:31:12,960 --> 02:31:14,960
where where i totally

2740
02:31:14,960 --> 02:31:17,359
see where you can appreciate that mine

2741
02:31:17,359 --> 02:31:19,920
would be like a decibel level for a

2742
02:31:19,920 --> 02:31:22,000
certain amount of time i don't care what

2743
02:31:22,000 --> 02:31:24,160
kind of music it is if it's classical

2744
02:31:24,160 --> 02:31:25,680
country or rap

2745
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:27,760
if it's at two in the morning and

2746
02:31:27,760 --> 02:31:28,399
i

2747
02:31:28,399 --> 02:31:30,640
just don't wanna hear it so i put your

2748
02:31:30,640 --> 02:31:32,240
points while taking

2749
02:31:32,240 --> 02:31:33,520
this tutorial

2750
02:31:33,520 --> 02:31:35,040
i run into it frequently in my

2751
02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:36,800
neighborhood um on the street behind me

2752
02:31:36,800 --> 02:31:38,479
on briarwood and i'm turning the music

2753
02:31:38,479 --> 02:31:41,860
down

2754
02:31:41,870 --> 02:31:44,800
[Music]

2755
02:31:44,800 --> 02:31:46,640
trust me when we talk the decibels get

2756
02:31:46,640 --> 02:31:47,600
up there

2757
02:31:47,600 --> 02:31:49,600
um so one o'clock in the morning

2758
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:51,520
saturday and we started off at as a

2759
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:53,040
little girl's birthday party and one

2760
02:31:53,040 --> 02:31:54,319
o'clock in the morning my daughter's

2761
02:31:54,319 --> 02:31:56,479
pulling me back into the house because

2762
02:31:56,479 --> 02:31:57,359
again

2763
02:31:57,359 --> 02:31:58,640
calling that you know even the

2764
02:31:58,640 --> 02:32:01,040
non-emergency 9-1-1 i know at one

2765
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:02,720
o'clock in the morning there's no calls

2766
02:32:02,720 --> 02:32:04,960
going on in the in the city and by the

2767
02:32:04,960 --> 02:32:06,720
time they respond you know it might be

2768
02:32:06,720 --> 02:32:08,479
three four hours later although they

2769
02:32:08,479 --> 02:32:10,560
were still up my neighbors um but

2770
02:32:10,560 --> 02:32:12,560
they're music loud

2771
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:16,960
but again i don't you know again

2772
02:32:16,960 --> 02:32:18,800
should we want to be cautious about

2773
02:32:18,800 --> 02:32:20,240
neighborhoods and where we're where

2774
02:32:20,240 --> 02:32:22,399
we're targeting but it's about the noise

2775
02:32:22,399 --> 02:32:24,560
and our friends on swan street i've been

2776
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:26,960
there three times now different hours of

2777
02:32:26,960 --> 02:32:28,080
the night

2778
02:32:28,080 --> 02:32:30,319
earlier in the night a lot of undercover

2779
02:32:30,319 --> 02:32:32,319
work but anyway later at night or

2780
02:32:32,319 --> 02:32:35,520
whatever just to end the report the loud

2781
02:32:35,520 --> 02:32:38,240
music and and the code violations across

2782
02:32:38,240 --> 02:32:40,720
the street um with the with the with the

2783
02:32:40,720 --> 02:32:43,359
carts there 30 40 price chopper cards

2784
02:32:43,359 --> 02:32:45,200
you know so we need to take this all

2785
02:32:45,200 --> 02:32:46,640
into consideration no matter what

2786
02:32:46,640 --> 02:32:48,240
neighborhood what what is your

2787
02:32:48,240 --> 02:32:50,399
entitlement that you think you can play

2788
02:32:50,399 --> 02:32:52,080
loud music even at

2789
02:32:52,080 --> 02:32:54,319
two in the afternoon

2790
02:32:54,319 --> 02:32:56,800
but around two in the morning so i i

2791
02:32:56,800 --> 02:32:58,960
think

2792
02:32:58,960 --> 02:33:01,040
it's a plan

2793
02:33:01,040 --> 02:33:02,000
thank you

2794
02:33:02,000 --> 02:33:04,840
so all i'm asking is that the uh

2795
02:33:04,840 --> 02:33:06,800
maryland in four weeks

2796
02:33:06,800 --> 02:33:08,560
see if your staff could provide some

2797
02:33:08,560 --> 02:33:10,160
information first

2798
02:33:10,160 --> 02:33:12,399
but it might be good to

2799
02:33:12,399 --> 02:33:14,160
do a briefing for the council for some

2800
02:33:14,160 --> 02:33:16,319
of the things that we're

2801
02:33:16,319 --> 02:33:20,640
working on trying to put together in my

2802
02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:21,920
message to

2803
02:33:21,920 --> 02:33:24,080
staff and

2804
02:33:24,080 --> 02:33:25,760
as a whole

2805
02:33:25,760 --> 02:33:28,000
is trying to identify

2806
02:33:28,000 --> 02:33:30,240
high needs individuals in high needs

2807
02:33:30,240 --> 02:33:33,120
locations that drive our costs whether

2808
02:33:33,120 --> 02:33:34,560
it's policing

2809
02:33:34,560 --> 02:33:37,359
whether it's ems services whether it's

2810
02:33:37,359 --> 02:33:39,359
social services

2811
02:33:39,359 --> 02:33:41,040
whether it's resources within the school

2812
02:33:41,040 --> 02:33:42,800
district

2813
02:33:42,800 --> 02:33:45,120
and again it's this broad smart city

2814
02:33:45,120 --> 02:33:46,720
deployment that

2815
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:49,920
has a lot of moving parts in it

2816
02:33:49,920 --> 02:33:52,640
we right now the acoustical sensors that

2817
02:33:52,640 --> 02:33:54,399
we have placed

2818
02:33:54,399 --> 02:33:55,840
for going through

2819
02:33:55,840 --> 02:33:56,960
and

2820
02:33:56,960 --> 02:34:00,000
trying to match up

2821
02:34:00,000 --> 02:34:03,680
events with known gunshots

2822
02:34:03,680 --> 02:34:06,640
as i stayed away from shot spotter a

2823
02:34:06,640 --> 02:34:09,760
shot spotter only will

2824
02:34:09,760 --> 02:34:12,000
use the information for

2825
02:34:12,000 --> 02:34:13,760
gunshots

2826
02:34:13,760 --> 02:34:15,280
you know it's very important you know

2827
02:34:15,280 --> 02:34:18,080
government people are firing a gun

2828
02:34:18,080 --> 02:34:19,920
even where somebody gets hit

2829
02:34:19,920 --> 02:34:21,920
but the reality in life is there are

2830
02:34:21,920 --> 02:34:24,479
other acoustical events that are

2831
02:34:24,479 --> 02:34:26,560
annoying or significant

2832
02:34:26,560 --> 02:34:30,399
an auto crash produces a significant

2833
02:34:30,399 --> 02:34:33,439
acoustical signature

2834
02:34:33,439 --> 02:34:35,200
again loud music

2835
02:34:35,200 --> 02:34:36,479
does that

2836
02:34:36,479 --> 02:34:38,080
i don't know if any of you had any

2837
02:34:38,080 --> 02:34:40,860
complaints on

2838
02:34:40,870 --> 02:34:42,840
[Music]

2839
02:34:42,840 --> 02:34:45,920
fireworks know it's unfortunate that

2840
02:34:45,920 --> 02:34:46,800
people

2841
02:34:46,800 --> 02:34:49,680
make bad choices in how do we do the

2842
02:34:49,680 --> 02:34:51,920
education and bring some stability but

2843
02:34:51,920 --> 02:34:53,520
to

2844
02:34:53,520 --> 02:34:55,200
again go through some of the things that

2845
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:57,200
we are doing with emergency medical

2846
02:34:57,200 --> 02:34:58,479
services

2847
02:34:58,479 --> 02:35:00,080
with

2848
02:35:00,080 --> 02:35:02,479
the optical sensors

2849
02:35:02,479 --> 02:35:05,120
we're getting a huge amount of robust

2850
02:35:05,120 --> 02:35:06,960
data in terms

2851
02:35:06,960 --> 02:35:08,000
of

2852
02:35:08,000 --> 02:35:10,240
not only vehicle counts which is

2853
02:35:10,240 --> 02:35:12,399
important in terms of managing

2854
02:35:12,399 --> 02:35:15,359
traffic flow and planning out the timing

2855
02:35:15,359 --> 02:35:16,479
but

2856
02:35:16,479 --> 02:35:18,720
the speed of those vehicles

2857
02:35:18,720 --> 02:35:19,760
and so

2858
02:35:19,760 --> 02:35:22,080
we've never had all this information

2859
02:35:22,080 --> 02:35:24,319
before we just had it isolated so now

2860
02:35:24,319 --> 02:35:27,200
it's to be able to put it together

2861
02:35:27,200 --> 02:35:28,240
in a

2862
02:35:28,240 --> 02:35:30,479
city-wide more of a dynamic model and

2863
02:35:30,479 --> 02:35:32,800
then allocate the resources

2864
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:35,600
not necessarily on who is complaining

2865
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:38,640
the laws but who is actually being

2866
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:41,120
adversely affected the most

2867
02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:42,720
so

2868
02:35:42,720 --> 02:35:44,960
might be on mr williams street that he

2869
02:35:44,960 --> 02:35:46,640
thinks everything is terrible but then

2870
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:50,160
mr farley actually has the higher stats

2871
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:51,600
on his street

2872
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:54,160
and it's how do you match that up so

2873
02:35:54,160 --> 02:35:56,399
that we can again

2874
02:35:56,399 --> 02:35:58,720
message that so that we're we want

2875
02:35:58,720 --> 02:35:59,920
people to just

2876
02:35:59,920 --> 02:36:02,000
do the right thing

2877
02:36:02,000 --> 02:36:03,359
and how do you

2878
02:36:03,359 --> 02:36:04,960
get that out and you know it seems like

2879
02:36:04,960 --> 02:36:06,880
a simple goal and objective

2880
02:36:06,880 --> 02:36:10,880
but people make bad choices and so

2881
02:36:10,880 --> 02:36:12,240
maybe that

2882
02:36:12,240 --> 02:36:14,160
whether we do it as a separate meeting

2883
02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:15,280
or

2884
02:36:15,280 --> 02:36:17,040
is a

2885
02:36:17,040 --> 02:36:19,359
break off of the council meeting could

2886
02:36:19,359 --> 02:36:22,479
you know full briefing would uh could

2887
02:36:22,479 --> 02:36:24,800
easily go a couple of hours

2888
02:36:24,800 --> 02:36:27,439
so what the council wants if you want it

2889
02:36:27,439 --> 02:36:29,760
broken down into segments or you want to

2890
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:32,080
do it one evening or afternoon

2891
02:36:32,080 --> 02:36:33,439
so that you may have a better

2892
02:36:33,439 --> 02:36:36,080
understanding of things that we're doing

2893
02:36:36,080 --> 02:36:38,399
in the evolutionary nature of all the

2894
02:36:38,399 --> 02:36:40,319
data that we're collecting

2895
02:36:40,319 --> 02:36:41,120
and

2896
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:43,200
this presentation tonight by chief

2897
02:36:43,200 --> 02:36:45,120
sieber

2898
02:36:45,120 --> 02:36:46,720
is

2899
02:36:46,720 --> 02:36:48,319
one of those components how do you

2900
02:36:48,319 --> 02:36:50,560
manage all this information how do you

2901
02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:52,080
manage the body cameras how do you

2902
02:36:52,080 --> 02:36:54,080
manage the in-car video how do you

2903
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:56,160
manage the evidence

2904
02:36:56,160 --> 02:36:57,120
and

2905
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:58,560
some of this coming in from the

2906
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:00,640
acoustical sensors or optical sensors in

2907
02:37:00,640 --> 02:37:02,479
the city we wanted to be able to

2908
02:37:02,479 --> 02:37:05,200
integrate into this platform so that it

2909
02:37:05,200 --> 02:37:08,160
becomes usable information that whether

2910
02:37:08,160 --> 02:37:09,520
it's the police department fire

2911
02:37:09,520 --> 02:37:12,080
department code enforcement

2912
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:13,920
city council can look at it when you're

2913
02:37:13,920 --> 02:37:15,760
formulating policy

2914
02:37:15,760 --> 02:37:18,160
they're assigning police officers to a

2915
02:37:18,160 --> 02:37:21,520
zone or a particular problem so i look

2916
02:37:21,520 --> 02:37:23,600
forward to following up on that

2917
02:37:23,600 --> 02:37:25,439
you know

2918
02:37:25,439 --> 02:37:27,120
maybe a two-step process to give you

2919
02:37:27,120 --> 02:37:29,040
more of the information that we're

2920
02:37:29,040 --> 02:37:32,399
working on and then be able to take this

2921
02:37:32,399 --> 02:37:35,910
to the next step

2922
02:37:35,920 --> 02:37:37,840
so mayor if you were going to do that

2923
02:37:37,840 --> 02:37:40,240
presentation which i i would welcome to

2924
02:37:40,240 --> 02:37:41,439
know where we are with smart city

2925
02:37:41,439 --> 02:37:42,880
technology and what we're doing with

2926
02:37:42,880 --> 02:37:44,720
that i haven't heard about that in a

2927
02:37:44,720 --> 02:37:46,720
little bit so would that be open also to

2928
02:37:46,720 --> 02:37:48,880
the public because obviously this is a

2929
02:37:48,880 --> 02:37:50,960
major concern that they have as well so

2930
02:37:50,960 --> 02:37:54,080
yeah generally yes okay so in that case

2931
02:37:54,080 --> 02:37:55,520
i would say it would be a separate

2932
02:37:55,520 --> 02:38:00,000
meaning just focus specifically on that

2933
02:38:00,000 --> 02:38:01,920
mr ryan

2934
02:38:01,920 --> 02:38:04,319
mr williams so i'd say for me i don't

2935
02:38:04,319 --> 02:38:06,000
necessarily think we need to have like

2936
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:08,080
technology or some like expansive

2937
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:09,840
satellite to find out that you were like

2938
02:38:09,840 --> 02:38:11,280
in communities that would tell you it's

2939
02:38:11,280 --> 02:38:13,840
joe in the red house every day from 9 to

2940
02:38:13,840 --> 02:38:16,479
11 he's blasting music i think it is

2941
02:38:16,479 --> 02:38:17,520
apparent

2942
02:38:17,520 --> 02:38:19,280
where the issues are emanating from i

2943
02:38:19,280 --> 02:38:20,160
think

2944
02:38:20,160 --> 02:38:21,600
listening to this

2945
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:22,399
uh

2946
02:38:22,399 --> 02:38:24,720
solution i think there are two separate

2947
02:38:24,720 --> 02:38:28,160
issues of music that's

2948
02:38:28,160 --> 02:38:30,399
being transported vehicles and then

2949
02:38:30,399 --> 02:38:33,520
music that is in your households and i i

2950
02:38:33,520 --> 02:38:35,439
agree that if there's any option where

2951
02:38:35,439 --> 02:38:38,640
we can evaluate just how to make it a

2952
02:38:38,640 --> 02:38:40,000
better living environment for residents

2953
02:38:40,000 --> 02:38:41,600
we need to

2954
02:38:41,600 --> 02:38:44,160
you remember citizen action has the

2955
02:38:44,160 --> 02:38:46,479
ability to allow people to interact with

2956
02:38:46,479 --> 02:38:47,760
the police department and correct me

2957
02:38:47,760 --> 02:38:50,240
from round trip secret uh acc but i

2958
02:38:50,240 --> 02:38:53,359
think evaluating how we can exploit

2959
02:38:53,359 --> 02:38:55,520
those services which we are going to pay

2960
02:38:55,520 --> 02:38:57,840
a significant fee for

2961
02:38:57,840 --> 02:39:00,000
to see how we can utilize that in

2962
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:01,840
comparison with what mayor mccarthy is

2963
02:39:01,840 --> 02:39:03,680
saying collectively with not adding

2964
02:39:03,680 --> 02:39:07,280
another platform to an already uh

2965
02:39:07,280 --> 02:39:10,080
data cumbersome area so i think for me

2966
02:39:10,080 --> 02:39:12,160
it's wanting to make sure we're not

2967
02:39:12,160 --> 02:39:14,399
shifting the resources and

2968
02:39:14,399 --> 02:39:16,720
city staff time to solve seasonal issues

2969
02:39:16,720 --> 02:39:18,319
if you're driving a harley

2970
02:39:18,319 --> 02:39:20,720
flaring down the road during the winter

2971
02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:23,040
power to you well i think

2972
02:39:23,040 --> 02:39:24,399
parties can

2973
02:39:24,399 --> 02:39:26,080
occur throughout the year and i want to

2974
02:39:26,080 --> 02:39:27,680
make sure that any policies we're

2975
02:39:27,680 --> 02:39:29,920
pushing forward for

2976
02:39:29,920 --> 02:39:32,240
reducing those instances that i've

2977
02:39:32,240 --> 02:39:34,240
recognized have been coming to our realm

2978
02:39:34,240 --> 02:39:35,520
multiple times

2979
02:39:35,520 --> 02:39:37,840
citing the woman that came last week mr

2980
02:39:37,840 --> 02:39:41,040
proudly so i would i would agree on and

2981
02:39:41,040 --> 02:39:43,280
say that you know the first

2982
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:45,040
part of enforcement should really be

2983
02:39:45,040 --> 02:39:49,280
engagement right so we i that's uh to

2984
02:39:49,280 --> 02:39:51,359
support the field point of having the

2985
02:39:51,359 --> 02:39:52,800
community

2986
02:39:52,800 --> 02:39:54,319
open to the community let them come in

2987
02:39:54,319 --> 02:39:55,600
and ask questions but the last thing

2988
02:39:55,600 --> 02:39:57,120
they want me to do is try to explain

2989
02:39:57,120 --> 02:39:59,120
something technical to them um you know

2990
02:39:59,120 --> 02:40:00,399
in a way that

2991
02:40:00,399 --> 02:40:01,680
they'll be able to comprehend but i

2992
02:40:01,680 --> 02:40:02,960
really think that

2993
02:40:02,960 --> 02:40:06,800
if we engage the community um and that

2994
02:40:06,800 --> 02:40:09,600
also i i don't want to replace

2995
02:40:09,600 --> 02:40:11,840
that importance of just kind of those

2996
02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:13,439
natural organic conversations that

2997
02:40:13,439 --> 02:40:15,760
happen and should happen among neighbors

2998
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:17,520
and then you know

2999
02:40:17,520 --> 02:40:18,960
this you know we'll be dealing with more

3000
02:40:18,960 --> 02:40:22,870
of the outliers

3001
02:40:22,880 --> 02:40:24,880
well i would say that these are not

3002
02:40:24,880 --> 02:40:27,600
seasonal issues um to your point the

3003
02:40:27,600 --> 02:40:29,840
community largely knows

3004
02:40:29,840 --> 02:40:31,920
whether or not music or noise is too

3005
02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:34,640
loud or not and knows whether or not

3006
02:40:34,640 --> 02:40:36,640
they are

3007
02:40:36,640 --> 02:40:38,160
i don't know what the right word is i'll

3008
02:40:38,160 --> 02:40:40,640
say behaving that's not a good term but

3009
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:42,080
i think you understand what i'm getting

3010
02:40:42,080 --> 02:40:43,040
at

3011
02:40:43,040 --> 02:40:45,040
in terms of respecting

3012
02:40:45,040 --> 02:40:48,080
their neighborhood and their neighbors

3013
02:40:48,080 --> 02:40:49,439
this

3014
02:40:49,439 --> 02:40:50,800
quite frankly

3015
02:40:50,800 --> 02:40:54,479
we need to do something and

3016
02:40:54,479 --> 02:40:58,080
it's not always the same individuals it

3017
02:40:58,080 --> 02:41:00,640
oftentimes is but not always

3018
02:41:00,640 --> 02:41:03,279
and quite frankly there is

3019
02:41:03,279 --> 02:41:05,200
an increasing problem

3020
02:41:05,200 --> 02:41:07,040
with the noise

3021
02:41:07,040 --> 02:41:07,840
so

3022
02:41:07,840 --> 02:41:11,279
i think it's worth investigating and uh

3023
02:41:11,279 --> 02:41:13,200
i agree with miss porterfield i would

3024
02:41:13,200 --> 02:41:16,880
want this discussion to be public

3025
02:41:16,880 --> 02:41:17,680
and

3026
02:41:17,680 --> 02:41:20,560
have people have the ability to hear

3027
02:41:20,560 --> 02:41:22,640
what we have as

3028
02:41:22,640 --> 02:41:24,880
in terms of smart city

3029
02:41:24,880 --> 02:41:27,680
ability to address this issue but i also

3030
02:41:27,680 --> 02:41:32,070
like this to be

3031
02:41:32,080 --> 02:41:34,880
narrowed down to these particular issues

3032
02:41:34,880 --> 02:41:37,680
because smart cities is a radical

3033
02:41:37,680 --> 02:41:39,680
and

3034
02:41:39,680 --> 02:41:42,960
so if we can confine them to yes overall

3035
02:41:42,960 --> 02:41:45,760
briefing but largely addressing these

3036
02:41:45,760 --> 02:41:48,260
issues that would be appreciated

3037
02:41:48,260 --> 02:41:51,200
[Music]

3038
02:41:51,200 --> 02:41:53,200
the meeting's already lost

3039
02:41:53,200 --> 02:41:55,520
because it comes up routinely since we

3040
02:41:55,520 --> 02:41:57,200
have a lot of people tuning in i think a

3041
02:41:57,200 --> 02:41:59,120
lot of people try to discredit our

3042
02:41:59,120 --> 02:42:00,880
police department and say that the

3043
02:42:00,880 --> 02:42:02,479
response times are due to them not

3044
02:42:02,479 --> 02:42:04,160
carrying and i think that is important

3045
02:42:04,160 --> 02:42:05,120
that we

3046
02:42:05,120 --> 02:42:06,720
say that that is not the case i think

3047
02:42:06,720 --> 02:42:10,960
when you look at calls as they come in waves and bunches unfortunately these

3048
02:42:10,960 --> 02:42:14,479
types of issues are placed uh

3049
02:42:14,479 --> 02:42:16,240
lower where they need to respond to

3050
02:42:16,240 --> 02:42:18,399
other situations um i definitely would

3051
02:42:18,399 --> 02:42:19,920
like to to say that our police

3052
02:42:19,920 --> 02:42:21,600
department is actively working with what

3053
02:42:21,600 --> 02:42:23,520
they have i think looking at means to

3054
02:42:23,520 --> 02:42:25,040
better support them is within our

3055
02:42:25,040 --> 02:42:26,720
measure

3056
02:42:26,720 --> 02:42:29,040
these are certainly priority three calls

3057
02:42:29,040 --> 02:42:31,600
but important nonetheless

3058
02:42:31,600 --> 02:42:33,840
all right so can i have a motion to

3059
02:42:33,840 --> 02:42:35,680
adjourn finance

3060
02:42:35,680 --> 02:42:47,030
i'll second we are a jerk

3061
02:42:47,040 --> 02:42:49,920
we have one item on the agenda and that

3062
02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:52,479
is amending the signing ordinance or a

3063
02:42:52,479 --> 02:42:54,319
reminder and uh that's going to be by

3064
02:42:54,319 --> 02:42:55,760
president of

3065
02:42:55,760 --> 02:42:57,120
president

3066
02:42:57,120 --> 02:42:59,040
um just a reminder this you know that

3067
02:42:59,040 --> 02:43:00,479
there's going to be a public hearing

3068
02:43:00,479 --> 02:43:02,399
this coming monday regarding the

3069
02:43:02,399 --> 02:43:04,640
residency requirements whether we should

3070
02:43:04,640 --> 02:43:06,960
be expanding those to the county in

3071
02:43:06,960 --> 02:43:09,120
order to um

3072
02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:12,720
to increase our workforce

3073
02:43:12,720 --> 02:43:14,560
so thank you

3074
02:43:14,560 --> 02:43:15,920
questions

3075
02:43:15,920 --> 02:43:16,510
thoughts

3076
02:43:16,510 --> 02:43:18,399
[Music]

3077
02:43:18,399 --> 02:43:33,830
okay

3078
02:43:33,840 --> 02:43:37,120
motion to adjourn

3079
02:43:37,120 --> 02:43:40,630
all those in favor

3080
02:43:40,640 --> 02:43:42,800
i'd like to call health and recreation

3081
02:43:42,800 --> 02:43:45,200
to order we have one item on the agenda

3082
02:43:45,200 --> 02:43:49,840
and that has to do with the music

3083
02:43:49,840 --> 02:43:51,840
event that's coming up and so i'll turn

3084
02:43:51,840 --> 02:43:53,680
this over to

3085
02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:55,600
this board again thank you

3086
02:43:55,600 --> 02:43:58,560
so um we received um office i'm sure

3087
02:43:58,560 --> 02:44:00,880
received an email from ms gold regarding

3088
02:44:00,880 --> 02:44:03,040
the summer of seoul which is going to

3089
02:44:03,040 --> 02:44:05,200
happen on august 20th and there was

3090
02:44:05,200 --> 02:44:07,200
actually a resolution that was given by

3091
02:44:07,200 --> 02:44:08,319
the um

3092
02:44:08,319 --> 02:44:10,720
the senate i believe yes the u.s senate

3093
02:44:10,720 --> 02:44:12,319
and so she thought it would be a great

3094
02:44:12,319 --> 02:44:14,080
idea for us to do something locally i

3095
02:44:14,080 --> 02:44:16,399
agree with that so i'd like to us to be

3096
02:44:16,399 --> 02:44:18,640
able to present a resolution at that

3097
02:44:18,640 --> 02:44:22,870
event from the city council

3098
02:44:22,880 --> 02:44:25,439
um so

3099
02:44:25,439 --> 02:44:26,960
is that happening

3100
02:44:26,960 --> 02:44:29,600
so i need um well we can make addition

3101
02:44:29,600 --> 02:44:42,310
to that i got tom

3102
02:44:42,320 --> 02:44:44,479
[Music]

3103
02:44:44,479 --> 02:44:47,680
to adjourn this committee

3104
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:52,399
okay all in favor aye aye thank you i'd like to reconvene city

3105
02:44:52,399 --> 02:44:55,120
development and planning um so now we

3106
02:44:55,120 --> 02:44:57,279
have eight items left and the first item

3107
02:44:57,279 --> 02:44:59,520
would be the remediation of city

3108
02:44:59,520 --> 02:45:06,469
property mr lafon

3109
02:45:06,479 --> 02:45:07,920
the legislative request you have in

3110
02:45:07,920 --> 02:45:11,439
front each night is to move forward with

3111
02:45:11,439 --> 02:45:13,200
grammy national city property which is

3112
02:45:13,200 --> 02:45:15,680
foster avenue it is the

3113
02:45:15,680 --> 02:45:17,680
storage facility that we have to

3114
02:45:17,680 --> 02:45:19,920
clean up for dec

3115
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:22,399
we've been using it for years and

3116
02:45:22,399 --> 02:45:24,960
we store our dirt there spoils from

3117
02:45:24,960 --> 02:45:26,880
water breaks and everything else and

3118
02:45:26,880 --> 02:45:29,040
which is going to be an eyesore and we

3119
02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:30,640
received two bids one of the most

3120
02:45:30,640 --> 02:45:32,560
responsible bidders with cargo

3121
02:45:32,560 --> 02:45:36,479
associates for 190

3122
02:45:36,479 --> 02:45:40,060
197 145 dollars

3123
02:45:40,060 --> 02:45:42,720
[Music]

3124
02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:44,880
so mr lafon if i remember correctly this

3125
02:45:44,880 --> 02:45:46,800
came before us

3126
02:45:46,800 --> 02:45:48,399
several weeks ago

3127
02:45:48,399 --> 02:45:49,200
um

3128
02:45:49,200 --> 02:45:50,880
with a much higher bid

3129
02:45:50,880 --> 02:45:52,720
we modified some things where we use

3130
02:45:52,720 --> 02:45:54,640
most of the material on site

3131
02:45:54,640 --> 02:45:55,520
um

3132
02:45:55,520 --> 02:45:57,520
the bidders had questions they went out

3133
02:45:57,520 --> 02:45:58,720
to bid again

3134
02:45:58,720 --> 02:46:01,760
um we extended it a couple times to

3135
02:46:01,760 --> 02:46:03,279
answer questions and to try and get the

3136
02:46:03,279 --> 02:46:04,319
best price

3137
02:46:04,319 --> 02:46:06,479
and the one bit still came in at roughly

3138
02:46:06,479 --> 02:46:08,399
581 000

3139
02:46:08,399 --> 02:46:15,520
and

3140
02:46:15,530 --> 02:46:23,510
[Music]

3141
02:46:23,520 --> 02:46:25,680
that's correct

3142
02:46:25,680 --> 02:46:27,600
is there any reason that there was such

3143
02:46:27,600 --> 02:46:30,160
a huge difference i think the reason for

3144
02:46:30,160 --> 02:46:32,399
this was what they were going to

3145
02:46:32,399 --> 02:46:34,800
move off site what we did we have a

3146
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:38,160
alternate now to move offline 250. so

3147
02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:39,439
they were putting everything as a lump

3148
02:46:39,439 --> 02:46:41,439
sum um the first time

3149
02:46:41,439 --> 02:46:43,279
with the assumption that

3150
02:46:43,279 --> 02:46:44,720
x number of yards is going to have to be

3151
02:46:44,720 --> 02:46:46,640
moved and transported across we're going

3152
02:46:46,640 --> 02:46:48,399
to do some

3153
02:46:48,399 --> 02:46:50,399
work right there where some of the what

3154
02:46:50,399 --> 02:46:53,439
we call huge minus will be used on site

3155
02:46:53,439 --> 02:46:58,389
to grade and fill and put a burn

3156
02:46:58,399 --> 02:47:00,960
difference we saved some months okay mr

3157
02:47:00,960 --> 02:47:02,800
toro and i thank you for looking out for

3158
02:47:02,800 --> 02:47:04,560
the cost of the city thank you

3159
02:47:04,560 --> 02:47:07,359
absolutely good deal

3160
02:47:07,359 --> 02:47:10,640
any other questions comments

3161
02:47:10,640 --> 02:47:12,160
that seems like a

3162
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:14,000
quite a significant savings

3163
02:47:14,000 --> 02:47:16,319
just by you know reframing things so i

3164
02:47:16,319 --> 02:47:17,840
appreciate that

3165
02:47:17,840 --> 02:47:20,240
something motion i'll move it second all

3166
02:47:20,240 --> 02:47:22,000
those in favor aye

3167
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:25,110
thank you very much

3168
02:47:25,120 --> 02:47:26,880
uh the next item on the agenda is

3169
02:47:26,880 --> 02:47:28,720
authorize the issuance of revocable

3170
02:47:28,720 --> 02:47:32,160
print number 672 to moisture reality llc

3171
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:34,080
for assigning

3172
02:47:34,080 --> 02:47:35,840
that will cover the cities right away at

3173
02:47:35,840 --> 02:47:40,150
140 clinton street mr waller

3174
02:47:40,160 --> 02:47:43,600
good evening this is a local permit for

3175
02:47:43,600 --> 02:47:47,040
an awning and a sign

3176
02:47:47,040 --> 02:47:49,359
overhanging the right-of-way on clinton

3177
02:47:49,359 --> 02:47:50,720
street uh the building is currently

3178
02:47:50,720 --> 02:47:53,120
under construction renovations uh it has

3179
02:47:53,120 --> 02:47:54,800
seen several tenants it's adjacent to

3180
02:47:54,800 --> 02:47:56,800
the lads a lot there are some awnings on

3181
02:47:56,800 --> 02:47:58,640
the last lot but that is not the city's

3182
02:47:58,640 --> 02:48:03,429
right way but they are represented in

3183
02:48:03,439 --> 02:48:04,880
um

3184
02:48:04,880 --> 02:48:07,040
the awnings are made of a metal frame

3185
02:48:07,040 --> 02:48:08,160
with a tin

3186
02:48:08,160 --> 02:48:09,359
they're a little bit different than what

3187
02:48:09,359 --> 02:48:11,200
we typically have which is

3188
02:48:11,200 --> 02:48:12,640
some kind of a canvas these are a little

3189
02:48:12,640 --> 02:48:15,680
bit more of a harder metal

3190
02:48:15,680 --> 02:48:17,680
but uh still they could be revolved if

3191
02:48:17,680 --> 02:48:18,960
needed they are

3192
02:48:18,960 --> 02:48:21,279
um temporary almost in nature so it

3193
02:48:21,279 --> 02:48:23,200
falls under this permit and there was no

3194
02:48:23,200 --> 02:48:24,960
objection by planning

3195
02:48:24,960 --> 02:48:26,800
so

3196
02:48:26,800 --> 02:48:29,120
this is just kind of an inquiry was this

3197
02:48:29,120 --> 02:48:31,600
does this used to be moisture salon

3198
02:48:31,600 --> 02:48:33,760
is it the same person

3199
02:48:33,760 --> 02:48:36,399
i don't i don't know about actually okay

3200
02:48:36,399 --> 02:48:38,640
yeah so vance arianna wants the moisture

3201
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:41,359
salon on it's own that's not very very

3202
02:48:41,359 --> 02:48:43,680
this is so something right he's opening

3203
02:48:43,680 --> 02:48:44,720
a deli

3204
02:48:44,720 --> 02:48:47,200
so it must be the llc that he has there

3205
02:48:47,200 --> 02:48:48,880
okay as far as the awnings were

3206
02:48:48,880 --> 02:48:51,279
concerned i did recommend to him not to

3207
02:48:51,279 --> 02:48:52,720
go with canvas

3208
02:48:52,720 --> 02:48:54,640
because icicles not fall

3209
02:48:54,640 --> 02:48:57,040
um anything canvas the icicles go right

3210
02:48:57,040 --> 02:48:58,720
through the building so okay yeah

3211
02:48:58,720 --> 02:49:03,750
something a little heavier yeah

3212
02:49:03,760 --> 02:49:04,880
i'm sorry

3213
02:49:04,880 --> 02:49:06,319
yeah

3214
02:49:06,319 --> 02:49:08,479
moisture real teeth right

3215
02:49:08,479 --> 02:49:11,279
the moisture so long okay okay i'll move

3216
02:49:11,279 --> 02:49:12,240
in

3217
02:49:12,240 --> 02:49:14,560
a second all those in favor aye aye

3218
02:49:14,560 --> 02:49:16,479
all right the next item is to authorize

3219
02:49:16,479 --> 02:49:18,479
the mayor or is his destiny to enter to

3220
02:49:18,479 --> 02:49:20,000
a supplemental agreement from new york

3221
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:21,600
state department of transportation for

3222
02:49:21,600 --> 02:49:23,200
the construction of the branding white

3223
02:49:23,200 --> 02:49:24,240
avenue

3224
02:49:24,240 --> 02:49:26,240
safety improvement

3225
02:49:26,240 --> 02:49:29,120
mr well yes two weeks ago i was here and

3226
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:31,760
we went to authorize uh brandon avenue

3227
02:49:31,760 --> 02:49:34,240
and industries for a base fit i took

3228
02:49:34,240 --> 02:49:36,240
that information uh brought it to the

3229
02:49:36,240 --> 02:49:39,520
dot and the dot took that bit and put

3230
02:49:39,520 --> 02:49:41,520
that information into a supplemental

3231
02:49:41,520 --> 02:49:44,880
agreement between us and the state that

3232
02:49:44,880 --> 02:49:46,640
is for the federal aid

3233
02:49:46,640 --> 02:49:50,240
as you see this is a schedule a here

3234
02:49:50,240 --> 02:49:52,960
of the project the base bid was 1.7

3235
02:49:52,960 --> 02:49:54,080
million

3236
02:49:54,080 --> 02:49:56,080
we were able to increase our federal aid

3237
02:49:56,080 --> 02:49:58,560
it was originally around 1.2 we were

3238
02:49:58,560 --> 02:50:00,640
able to get an additional 300 000 of

3239
02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:02,240
federal aid

3240
02:50:02,240 --> 02:50:03,920
allocated to it

3241
02:50:03,920 --> 02:50:06,359
and so now we have a total of

3242
02:50:06,359 --> 02:50:08,960
1.53 million dollars

3243
02:50:08,960 --> 02:50:11,120
right here

3244
02:50:11,120 --> 02:50:13,600
and uh and the total cost is one seven

3245
02:50:13,600 --> 02:50:15,520
so there will be a city share on the

3246
02:50:15,520 --> 02:50:17,200
project the city shares anticipated

3247
02:50:17,200 --> 02:50:18,720
around three hundred thousand we're

3248
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:20,640
going to use our state chips money to

3249
02:50:20,640 --> 02:50:24,399
cover that is an eligible expense that we had

3250
02:50:24,399 --> 02:50:26,960
enough to do that so it was almost like

3251
02:50:26,960 --> 02:50:29,200
50 50 split with the state for the cost

3252
02:50:29,200 --> 02:50:31,120
overruns i see this as becoming

3253
02:50:31,120 --> 02:50:32,479
something in the future on some of these

3254
02:50:32,479 --> 02:50:34,240
federal projects because

3255
02:50:34,240 --> 02:50:36,399
inflation and cost increases are just

3256
02:50:36,399 --> 02:50:38,880
are high so we're going to have to put a

3257
02:50:38,880 --> 02:50:41,120
little bit in but at the end of the day

3258
02:50:41,120 --> 02:50:43,600
we're getting 1.5 million dollars which

3259
02:50:43,600 --> 02:50:44,640
is

3260
02:50:44,640 --> 02:50:46,950
great

3261
02:50:46,960 --> 02:50:49,440
any questions

3262
02:50:49,440 --> 02:50:58,800
[Music]

3263
02:50:58,800 --> 02:51:01,200
next item on the agenda is discussion of

3264
02:51:01,200 --> 02:51:02,880
the hosting quarterly city council

3265
02:51:02,880 --> 02:51:04,800
meetings outside of city hall follow up

3266
02:51:04,800 --> 02:51:06,319
mr williams

3267
02:51:06,319 --> 02:51:08,479
thank you so i'm excited to state that i

3268
02:51:08,479 --> 02:51:09,840
feel confident this is our second to

3269
02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:11,520
last meeting to discuss this before we

3270
02:51:11,520 --> 02:51:14,080
finalize any details i told you i'd get

3271
02:51:14,080 --> 02:51:16,560
some information about the topic

3272
02:51:16,560 --> 02:51:19,359
and i gathered the following i think

3273
02:51:19,359 --> 02:51:24,160
prioritizing the last week of september 26th the 30th uh provides

3274
02:51:24,160 --> 02:51:25,600
enough opportunity for people in the

3275
02:51:25,600 --> 02:51:27,920
city to return back to their vacations

3276
02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:30,640
and then uh i've deconflicted so far i

3277
02:51:30,640 --> 02:51:32,800
prefer a tuesday but i'm still

3278
02:51:32,800 --> 02:51:34,640
finalizing those details to make sure

3279
02:51:34,640 --> 02:51:37,040
that there are no events that we are

3280
02:51:37,040 --> 02:51:38,640
conflicting against

3281
02:51:38,640 --> 02:51:41,040
um i've got a tentative confirmation

3282
02:51:41,040 --> 02:51:43,840
from shane garvey or barbie at the boys

3283
02:51:43,840 --> 02:51:47,359
and girls club i put a message out to uh

3284
02:51:47,359 --> 02:51:49,040
superintendent zolair unfortunately i've

3285
02:51:49,040 --> 02:51:51,040
not heard back from him however shane

3286
02:51:51,040 --> 02:51:53,120
was able to state that open stage media

3287
02:51:53,120 --> 02:51:57,760
was able to come by and assess their space to come to confirm that they

3288
02:51:57,760 --> 02:52:01,600
were able to stream our town hall meeting

3289
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:05,349
additionally i've also

3290
02:52:05,359 --> 02:52:06,880
changed the narrative i think that was a

3291
02:52:06,880 --> 02:52:08,399
point of contention to make sure we

3292
02:52:08,399 --> 02:52:11,040
weren't promoting or inadvertently

3293
02:52:11,040 --> 02:52:12,399
taking a stance prior to these

3294
02:52:12,399 --> 02:52:14,399
discussions with the community so i

3295
02:52:14,399 --> 02:52:16,880
think housing crisis accurately

3296
02:52:16,880 --> 02:52:18,560
categorizes what we're trying to hear

3297
02:52:18,560 --> 02:52:20,880
from the community

3298
02:52:20,880 --> 02:52:22,560
with that

3299
02:52:22,560 --> 02:52:24,160
in agreement with getting with mr

3300
02:52:24,160 --> 02:52:26,000
coleman and making sure that that

3301
02:52:26,000 --> 02:52:27,120
narrative

3302
02:52:27,120 --> 02:52:28,800
is captured within the announcement or

3303
02:52:28,800 --> 02:52:31,279
press release i think come the next

3304
02:52:31,279 --> 02:52:33,439
meeting i can have firm dates from

3305
02:52:33,439 --> 02:52:36,000
either from both the boys and girls club

3306
02:52:36,000 --> 02:52:36,960
and the

3307
02:52:36,960 --> 02:52:38,479
high school

3308
02:52:38,479 --> 02:52:40,720
and then i'm leaning against having a

3309
02:52:40,720 --> 02:52:42,240
public speaker just due to the

3310
02:52:42,240 --> 02:52:44,960
anticipated volume of not wanting to be

3311
02:52:44,960 --> 02:52:46,479
a town hall meeting for an extended

3312
02:52:46,479 --> 02:52:48,880
period of time i think two hours is

3313
02:52:48,880 --> 02:52:51,040
sufficient to kind of gauge how this

3314
02:52:51,040 --> 02:52:53,439
process is going to go i think continue

3315
02:52:53,439 --> 02:52:54,800
on with our current format of three

3316
02:52:54,800 --> 02:52:56,960
minutes per speaker asking people to

3317
02:52:56,960 --> 02:52:59,760
send in uh written statements if they so

3318
02:52:59,760 --> 02:53:02,399
choose but allowing people to just speak

3319
02:53:02,399 --> 02:53:04,080
their truths and step down to allow time

3320
02:53:04,080 --> 02:53:06,160
for the rest of people to speak

3321
02:53:06,160 --> 02:53:07,680
some of the other logistical items such

3322
02:53:07,680 --> 02:53:09,439
as moving our tables having a podium

3323
02:53:09,439 --> 02:53:11,359
that's i think a smaller detail but what

3324
02:53:11,359 --> 02:53:13,359
i'm asking is just seeing how everyone

3325
02:53:13,359 --> 02:53:15,520
feels about those items that way next

3326
02:53:15,520 --> 02:53:17,040
meeting it is just voting for whether

3327
02:53:17,040 --> 02:53:18,880
you'd like to host it at the voiceless

3328
02:53:18,880 --> 02:53:21,359
club or at the high school

3329
02:53:21,359 --> 02:53:23,260
i'm open to any questions

3330
02:53:23,260 --> 02:53:25,359
[Music]

3331
02:53:25,359 --> 02:53:28,240
the last time we discussed this you were

3332
02:53:28,240 --> 02:53:30,160
going to send out

3333
02:53:30,160 --> 02:53:32,560
to everybody on the council as to our

3334
02:53:32,560 --> 02:53:35,359
availability so before you finalize the

3335
02:53:35,359 --> 02:53:38,080
date if you would do that please

3336
02:53:38,080 --> 02:53:40,960
absolutely mr toro i love the housing

3337
02:53:40,960 --> 02:53:43,279
crisis issue since a lot of people are

3338
02:53:43,279 --> 02:53:44,640
facing

3339
02:53:44,640 --> 02:53:46,880
homelessness and things so i i do like

3340
02:53:46,880 --> 02:53:48,960
that do you have a preference i mean as

3341
02:53:48,960 --> 02:53:50,720
far as transportation or people in

3342
02:53:50,720 --> 02:53:52,640
neighborhoods whether it's the school or

3343
02:53:52,640 --> 02:53:54,800
the boys and girls club have you thought

3344
02:53:54,800 --> 02:53:56,319
about that at all

3345
02:53:56,319 --> 02:53:59,359
would be easier for

3346
02:53:59,359 --> 02:54:01,760
you know people to get there

3347
02:54:01,760 --> 02:54:03,920
yeah i was using it as a dual purpose

3348
02:54:03,920 --> 02:54:05,840
opportunity to showcase this resource

3349
02:54:05,840 --> 02:54:07,520
that exists in our community i think

3350
02:54:07,520 --> 02:54:09,040
still a lot of people don't know that

3351
02:54:09,040 --> 02:54:11,120
there's this huge facility that's in our

3352
02:54:11,120 --> 02:54:12,479
backyards

3353
02:54:12,479 --> 02:54:14,319
i think absolutely on my part i was

3354
02:54:14,319 --> 02:54:15,680
going to try and coordinate

3355
02:54:15,680 --> 02:54:17,920
transportation to see if people could

3356
02:54:17,920 --> 02:54:20,160
carpool and just bringing yourself is

3357
02:54:20,160 --> 02:54:21,200
not

3358
02:54:21,200 --> 02:54:23,439
bringing your neighbor or bringing uh

3359
02:54:23,439 --> 02:54:24,960
someone you know but then also not

3360
02:54:24,960 --> 02:54:26,319
physically feeling like you have to be

3361
02:54:26,319 --> 02:54:28,160
there i think that's why prioritizing

3362
02:54:28,160 --> 02:54:29,600
sending females

3363
02:54:29,600 --> 02:54:32,319
and also people being carriers to others

3364
02:54:32,319 --> 02:54:34,319
so i think it's very much embracing a

3365
02:54:34,319 --> 02:54:36,399
community push to make sure if you're

3366
02:54:36,399 --> 02:54:37,840
working and you can't attend if you're

3367
02:54:37,840 --> 02:54:39,840
out of town you can't attend making sure

3368
02:54:39,840 --> 02:54:41,920
people are collectively gathering

3369
02:54:41,920 --> 02:54:44,479
thoughts and bring those

3370
02:54:44,479 --> 02:54:46,399
good thank you

3371
02:54:46,399 --> 02:54:48,800
yes that's patrick so you said no

3372
02:54:48,800 --> 02:54:51,359
speakers um you just want to take input

3373
02:54:51,359 --> 02:54:52,640
from the community you don't want to

3374
02:54:52,640 --> 02:54:54,560
have any

3375
02:54:54,560 --> 02:54:57,359
representatives from any groups um

3376
02:54:57,359 --> 02:54:59,279
basically make brief presentations

3377
02:54:59,279 --> 02:55:01,359
you're just looking down like an open

3378
02:55:01,359 --> 02:55:03,760
mic with us just listening and not

3379
02:55:03,760 --> 02:55:05,600
speaking ourselves right

3380
02:55:05,600 --> 02:55:08,000
i think if we had booths for people to

3381
02:55:08,000 --> 02:55:09,680
serve as uh

3382
02:55:09,680 --> 02:55:11,600
resource pods i think that's more

3383
02:55:11,600 --> 02:55:13,359
appropriate rather than having them take

3384
02:55:13,359 --> 02:55:15,520
up some of the precious times is just

3385
02:55:15,520 --> 02:55:17,520
after our meeting on monday so

3386
02:55:17,520 --> 02:55:19,359
definitely starting off the week i think

3387
02:55:19,359 --> 02:55:20,640
it's going to be

3388
02:55:20,640 --> 02:55:22,720
draining to an extent

3389
02:55:22,720 --> 02:55:24,399
so i think being just more intentional

3390
02:55:24,399 --> 02:55:26,160
with

3391
02:55:26,160 --> 02:55:27,760
trying to gather efficiencies i mean

3392
02:55:27,760 --> 02:55:29,200
absolutely having people either come

3393
02:55:29,200 --> 02:55:30,640
early or stably

3394
02:55:30,640 --> 02:55:34,550
and then also having

3395
02:55:34,560 --> 02:55:36,399
us being sensors and pushing out that

3396
02:55:36,399 --> 02:55:38,000
throughout our uh

3397
02:55:38,000 --> 02:55:42,230
social pools

3398
02:55:42,240 --> 02:55:44,880
oh i don't raise my hand

3399
02:55:44,880 --> 02:55:46,399
um so and i thought the other thing that

3400
02:55:46,399 --> 02:55:48,479
we should also do is uh have some

3401
02:55:48,479 --> 02:55:50,960
information from the various

3402
02:55:50,960 --> 02:55:53,279
you know to to have if people can't come

3403
02:55:53,279 --> 02:55:54,510
but the various um

3404
02:55:54,510 --> 02:55:56,960
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3405
02:55:56,960 --> 02:55:58,720
organizations that provide housing

3406
02:55:58,720 --> 02:56:00,960
provide support for housing

3407
02:56:00,960 --> 02:56:03,040
um to have them there and uh

3408
02:56:03,040 --> 02:56:05,279
additionally um i was at a meeting

3409
02:56:05,279 --> 02:56:10,240
regarding housing with an another entity and there's um

3410
02:56:10,240 --> 02:56:12,240
there's assistant attorney general who

3411
02:56:12,240 --> 02:56:14,720
is kind of looking at this this as well

3412
02:56:14,720 --> 02:56:17,520
so um i'll be reaching out to her if and

3413
02:56:17,520 --> 02:56:19,359
if she's open to it perhaps you could

3414
02:56:19,359 --> 02:56:21,120
just send some information regarding

3415
02:56:21,120 --> 02:56:22,960
that or and i know you want a public

3416
02:56:22,960 --> 02:56:25,600
speaker but that might be a person who

3417
02:56:25,600 --> 02:56:27,600
does it statewide and maybe somebody

3418
02:56:27,600 --> 02:56:28,720
that could come

3419
02:56:28,720 --> 02:56:30,960
so um you know i would offer that but if

3420
02:56:30,960 --> 02:56:32,800
that's not something we want to to move

3421
02:56:32,800 --> 02:56:33,760
towards

3422
02:56:33,760 --> 02:56:35,040
um we don't have to but i would

3423
02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:36,479
definitely still get information from

3424
02:56:36,479 --> 02:56:37,460
that

3425
02:56:37,460 --> 02:56:39,680
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3426
02:56:39,680 --> 02:56:42,000
so i just want to say that you know we

3427
02:56:42,000 --> 02:56:43,520
started on

3428
02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:46,160
you know this conversation

3429
02:56:46,160 --> 02:56:48,640
was around um housing stabilization

3430
02:56:48,640 --> 02:56:50,800
which was definitely under the umbrella

3431
02:56:50,800 --> 02:56:52,479
of the housing crisis i want to make

3432
02:56:52,479 --> 02:56:54,399
sure that none of that is lost

3433
02:56:54,399 --> 02:56:56,240
in the conversation i don't want to cast

3434
02:56:56,240 --> 02:56:59,200
such a wide net that we um don't allow

3435
02:56:59,200 --> 02:57:01,120
people to speak onto

3436
02:57:01,120 --> 02:57:03,680
what has

3437
02:57:03,680 --> 02:57:05,920
initially um started

3438
02:57:05,920 --> 02:57:09,590
to discuss at this table

3439
02:57:09,600 --> 02:57:11,279
i i think that we would that first of

3440
02:57:11,279 --> 02:57:13,760
all we won't be able to um like uh

3441
02:57:13,760 --> 02:57:15,840
censor people's comments so

3442
02:57:15,840 --> 02:57:17,439
when we talk about that

3443
02:57:17,439 --> 02:57:20,080
um you know unless they swear but um

3444
02:57:20,080 --> 02:57:21,600
when they talk about that you know i

3445
02:57:21,600 --> 02:57:22,720
think they're going to bring whatever

3446
02:57:22,720 --> 02:57:25,200
their issue is regarding around housing

3447
02:57:25,200 --> 02:57:26,479
and so when you can't pay your rent

3448
02:57:26,479 --> 02:57:29,750
that's crisis

3449
02:57:29,760 --> 02:57:31,520
so um i think that we would definitely

3450
02:57:31,520 --> 02:57:33,680
be able to be open to all of that

3451
02:57:33,680 --> 02:57:34,720
so

3452
02:57:34,720 --> 02:57:36,960
um at this point in time mr williams you

3453
02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:37,920
will

3454
02:57:37,920 --> 02:57:40,319
uh reconvene in two weeks with

3455
02:57:40,319 --> 02:57:42,399
firm uh

3456
02:57:42,399 --> 02:57:44,319
draft public announcements for us to

3457
02:57:44,319 --> 02:57:45,920
elect which one

3458
02:57:45,920 --> 02:57:50,870
and uh

3459
02:57:50,880 --> 02:57:51,920
yes

3460
02:57:51,920 --> 02:57:55,429
any other discussion around this

3461
02:57:55,439 --> 02:57:57,359
nothing okay

3462
02:57:57,359 --> 02:57:59,600
the final items are for executive

3463
02:57:59,600 --> 02:58:02,160
session for the sale of property

3464
02:58:02,160 --> 02:58:04,319
so this time i would ask that we go into

3465
02:58:04,319 --> 02:58:06,399
executive session

3466
02:58:06,399 --> 02:58:08,240
second okay we're an executive session

3467
02:58:08,240 --> 02:58:15,500
the public will have to leave

3468
02:58:15,510 --> 02:58:31,479
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