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--> 00:25:46,919 Safety Mr Williams so I'd like to call 98 00:25:46,919 --> 00:25:48,480 the order of the Public Safety Committee 99 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,100 we have four items on the agenda tonight 100 00:25:50,100 --> 00:25:52,500 first of which is portable radios by 101 00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:54,919 Chief Marina 102 00:25:54,919 --> 00:25:58,440 and I assume he's in a while he was 103 00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,419 going to be here 104 00:26:00,419 --> 00:26:02,940 so everyone's in agreement moving to 105 00:26:02,940 --> 00:26:05,940 this can attend item it's going to be 106 00:26:05,940 --> 00:26:07,679 the axon officer Safety Management 107 00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:12,649 contract approval by ACC 108 00:26:12,659 --> 00:26:21,769 ENT okay 109 00:26:21,779 --> 00:26:23,340 good afternoon everybody it's not 110 00:26:23,340 --> 00:26:25,919 evening yet right good afternoon 111 00:26:25,919 --> 00:26:27,620 so 112 00:26:27,620 --> 00:26:30,840 I'm here today to ask that the council 113 00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:33,419 approved or entering into an agreement 114 00:26:33,419 --> 00:26:38,480 with axon for three separate 115 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:42,240 contracts one ordering in-car videos one 116 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:44,820 covering interview rooms and the other 117 00:26:44,820 --> 00:26:48,500 one being officer safety plan 118 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:52,140 which has as the main component body one 119 00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:55,320 cameras and tasers and before I before I 120 00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,960 start this presentation I just wanted to 121 00:26:57,960 --> 00:26:59,940 note that 122 00:26:59,940 --> 00:27:03,779 I recognize that that this is a large 123 00:27:03,779 --> 00:27:06,360 purchase on behalf of the city we have 124 00:27:06,360 --> 00:27:09,120 not taken entered into this uh course of 125 00:27:09,120 --> 00:27:11,000 action lightly 126 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:14,400 to it we've done a lot of research and 127 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,380 we've had many discussions and we've 128 00:27:16,380 --> 00:27:17,700 communicated with many individuals 129 00:27:17,700 --> 00:27:19,140 regarding this 130 00:27:19,140 --> 00:27:22,140 also spoken to many agencies regarding 131 00:27:22,140 --> 00:27:24,360 the purchase of this product whether 132 00:27:24,360 --> 00:27:26,399 they like it or not some some positives 133 00:27:26,399 --> 00:27:27,419 and negatives 134 00:27:27,419 --> 00:27:29,640 those local agencies are Albany Troy the 135 00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,980 rotterham city of Saratoga the county of 136 00:27:31,980 --> 00:27:33,960 Saratoga we're also spoken with other 137 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:35,640 large agencies across the country 138 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,860 Michigan State Police Tempe Police 139 00:27:37,860 --> 00:27:40,860 Department and Tampa Police Department 140 00:27:40,860 --> 00:27:43,380 so the reason why we're here asking for 141 00:27:43,380 --> 00:27:46,799 this is that we're facing uh an urgent 142 00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:48,000 and immediate 143 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:49,679 urgency and a moderate need at the 144 00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:51,779 police department the urgent need is 145 00:27:51,779 --> 00:27:55,080 that the pandemic and the lack of 146 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,340 resources 147 00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:58,860 backed us up on our cars that we 148 00:27:58,860 --> 00:28:01,020 purchased two years ago they have 149 00:28:01,020 --> 00:28:03,000 finally ends we finally have that 150 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,620 upfitted to the point where they need 151 00:28:04,620 --> 00:28:07,320 ink cart videos we did not want to put 152 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:09,960 the ones in there that we had stepped 153 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:12,059 out because we had started these 154 00:28:12,059 --> 00:28:14,460 considerations about changing vendors so 155 00:28:14,460 --> 00:28:16,440 we had cars that are coming out to the 156 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:18,419 fleet right now that don't have any car 157 00:28:18,419 --> 00:28:20,940 videos but we do have body warm cameras 158 00:28:20,940 --> 00:28:22,799 and we're hoping that we can make a 159 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:26,460 decisions in car videos soon 160 00:28:26,460 --> 00:28:28,679 um typically it costs about ten thousand 161 00:28:28,679 --> 00:28:30,320 dollars per car 162 00:28:30,320 --> 00:28:32,880 to put this camera in the car and then 163 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,220 it lasts throughout the life of the car 164 00:28:35,220 --> 00:28:37,200 we do about eight to ten cars per year 165 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,120 so we're spending roughly through 166 00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:41,100 Capital spending around 80 to 100 000 167 00:28:41,100 --> 00:28:45,960 per year on cars just for any car videos 168 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:49,200 axon's platform uh service bases where 169 00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:51,059 you just pay per month 170 00:28:51,059 --> 00:28:53,100 essentially is budget Mutual in this 171 00:28:53,100 --> 00:28:55,440 space where they put the cameras in the 172 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,539 cars they install them you pay a per 173 00:28:57,539 --> 00:29:00,380 month basis or are you on a yearly basis 174 00:29:00,380 --> 00:29:02,580 we essentially figured out that it's 175 00:29:02,580 --> 00:29:04,200 budget neutral based on the life of our 176 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:05,520 cars 177 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,159 and in addition something that our 178 00:29:08,159 --> 00:29:10,620 current cars cameras don't have these 179 00:29:10,620 --> 00:29:12,899 come with lprs on every car license 180 00:29:12,899 --> 00:29:15,480 plate meters so every car will be a 181 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:18,059 license plate reader and we foresee 182 00:29:18,059 --> 00:29:20,820 increased revenues we hate being able to 183 00:29:20,820 --> 00:29:23,159 identify Scott laws and collect 184 00:29:23,159 --> 00:29:27,179 passenger Mouse over like that 185 00:29:27,179 --> 00:29:30,720 the next need that is immediate but not 186 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,179 urgent is binding on cameras our prior 187 00:29:33,179 --> 00:29:34,679 vendor 188 00:29:34,679 --> 00:29:37,260 the life of those cameras are is slowly 189 00:29:37,260 --> 00:29:38,700 coming up they are currently out of 190 00:29:38,700 --> 00:29:40,080 warranty 191 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,940 they expect to last between three and 192 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:43,380 four years and they're about three and a 193 00:29:43,380 --> 00:29:45,240 half years old now we will need to 194 00:29:45,240 --> 00:29:48,710 replace them 195 00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,880 it's time we purchase cameras 196 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:55,200 it's 144 000 for as many as we need 197 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:57,539 by entering into the exxon's agreement 198 00:29:57,539 --> 00:30:00,240 those cameras are given to us free of 199 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,220 charge as long as we're paying as a part 200 00:30:02,220 --> 00:30:05,880 of the officer safety plan so we can 201 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,340 replace those cameras now once we enter 202 00:30:08,340 --> 00:30:10,200 into this that every two and a half 203 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,179 years they will place them automatically 204 00:30:12,179 --> 00:30:14,700 we'll be upgraded technology 205 00:30:14,700 --> 00:30:17,299 so that over the course of a 10-year 206 00:30:17,299 --> 00:30:23,930 agreement that's poor Replacements total 207 00:30:23,940 --> 00:30:26,460 the most the minority that we have which 208 00:30:26,460 --> 00:30:28,200 means we do not have to replace it right 209 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,600 away but we're going to need to is for 210 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:33,360 our interview rooms 211 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,179 currently it's dated it's been replaced 212 00:30:36,179 --> 00:30:38,760 already once in my time that I've been 213 00:30:38,760 --> 00:30:40,980 to the tech division at Chief and we're 214 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:42,059 getting to the point where we're going 215 00:30:42,059 --> 00:30:44,460 to have to replace it again 216 00:30:44,460 --> 00:30:46,980 we have a grant that was given to us by 217 00:30:46,980 --> 00:30:48,779 the District Attorney's office which 218 00:30:48,779 --> 00:30:50,520 will fully fund this 219 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,860 so between last year and this year we 220 00:30:52,860 --> 00:30:54,600 expect that we will have full funding 221 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,299 for the cost of the interview rooms 222 00:30:57,299 --> 00:31:00,299 being upgraded to the axon platform 223 00:31:00,299 --> 00:31:03,240 which will have more cameras and the 224 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,679 evidence that's collected in those 225 00:31:04,679 --> 00:31:06,059 interviews will go directly to 226 00:31:06,059 --> 00:31:09,240 address.com making it easy to shareable 227 00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:13,980 with Mr attorney's office and defense 228 00:31:13,980 --> 00:31:16,440 so the officer safety plan is the big 229 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,960 one I just want to go through again just 230 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,240 as somewhere of what it includes it 231 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,120 includes body mount cameras it includes 232 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:26,640 taser 7 which is the most up-to-date 233 00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:30,000 taser that includes signal Activation so 234 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:32,220 when it's deployed the Bodywork camera 235 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:33,899 automatically comes on 236 00:31:33,899 --> 00:31:36,120 and includes the virtual reality 237 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,580 training with monthly updates expert 238 00:31:38,580 --> 00:31:41,399 content which is both for basic 239 00:31:41,399 --> 00:31:44,580 intermediate and advanced experiences 240 00:31:44,580 --> 00:31:48,059 it includes bias prevention features 241 00:31:48,059 --> 00:31:50,220 but focuses on common accounters like 242 00:31:50,220 --> 00:31:51,960 domestic violence Mental Health crisis 243 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,500 de-escalations scenarios 244 00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:57,600 it also includes evidence.com digital 245 00:31:57,600 --> 00:31:59,460 evidence storage which is cloud-based 246 00:31:59,460 --> 00:32:02,700 storage unlimited cloud-based storage 247 00:32:02,700 --> 00:32:05,820 Sigma sidearms which is a sick which is 248 00:32:05,820 --> 00:32:08,580 a sidearm signal that when they're 249 00:32:08,580 --> 00:32:11,519 control pistols is deployed the body One 250 00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:12,899 camera comes on 251 00:32:12,899 --> 00:32:16,220 it was Auto tagging or 252 00:32:16,220 --> 00:32:19,019 when the camera comes on and then it's 253 00:32:19,019 --> 00:32:21,659 turned off that information on it is 254 00:32:21,659 --> 00:32:23,159 tagged to the incident number that 255 00:32:23,159 --> 00:32:25,200 they're they're on 256 00:32:25,200 --> 00:32:27,480 right now currently off well currently 257 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,880 we have that right now but 258 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,500 officers used to have to go on there and 259 00:32:31,500 --> 00:32:35,519 tag it themselves it just includes that 260 00:32:35,519 --> 00:32:39,360 respond and live stream and GPS so for 261 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,799 also safety we'll know where they are 262 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:43,620 based on a GPS this camera 263 00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:47,399 and we are able also to welcome Command 264 00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:49,919 Staff view officers and live stream 265 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:52,140 sugar be an incent that we want to view 266 00:32:52,140 --> 00:32:54,000 from the police station 267 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,179 axon capture which is a mobile app that 268 00:32:57,179 --> 00:32:58,679 allows officers to capture digital 269 00:32:58,679 --> 00:33:00,480 evidence in your field 270 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,419 axon view which makes you makes videos 271 00:33:03,419 --> 00:33:05,820 available or viewable without the need 272 00:33:05,820 --> 00:33:09,000 to download digital player software this 273 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:12,720 is this is important because when we go 274 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,220 out and get videos sometimes we have to 275 00:33:14,220 --> 00:33:15,960 download the players for those which 276 00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,779 makes the city's I.T system are 277 00:33:18,779 --> 00:33:20,820 susceptible to malware 278 00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:22,980 our city it does a great job but every 279 00:33:22,980 --> 00:33:24,779 time you download one of those softwares 280 00:33:24,779 --> 00:33:26,220 it holds your breath of hope that 281 00:33:26,220 --> 00:33:27,720 nothing happens 282 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,960 redaction assistant which helps us 283 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,019 redact videos the redacted video saves 284 00:33:34,019 --> 00:33:36,240 us time and effort which means we save 285 00:33:36,240 --> 00:33:38,880 money by having less people working to 286 00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:40,679 project videos that we share with the 287 00:33:40,679 --> 00:33:41,880 bubble 288 00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,000 axon performance which measures the 289 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,340 metrics of office your productivity so 290 00:33:47,340 --> 00:33:49,860 this is this we're better able for us to 291 00:33:49,860 --> 00:33:51,659 manage officers and their use of this 292 00:33:51,659 --> 00:33:53,640 equipment 293 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,120 acts on citizen which where citizens can 294 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,399 be invited to submit photos videos of an 295 00:33:59,399 --> 00:34:01,799 incident directly to the agency through 296 00:34:01,799 --> 00:34:04,559 evidence.com it's a one-to-one 297 00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:05,700 submission 298 00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:07,559 and a community-wide pool with the help 299 00:34:07,559 --> 00:34:09,679 get to get to the truth quickly so 300 00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,179 one-to-one is where we will go out and 301 00:34:12,179 --> 00:34:16,379 we'll we'll ask an individual to present to us in their video that we 302 00:34:16,379 --> 00:34:17,940 know they have but then there's a 303 00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:19,440 community-wide portal where we can put 304 00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,780 it out to the public on this incident if 305 00:34:21,780 --> 00:34:23,220 you have video just submitting it here 306 00:34:23,220 --> 00:34:25,859 so we could do it without without the 307 00:34:25,859 --> 00:34:27,720 name being forwarded 308 00:34:27,720 --> 00:34:29,879 excellent Channel Services which would 309 00:34:29,879 --> 00:34:32,879 allow us to store evidence on other 310 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:33,839 things 311 00:34:33,839 --> 00:34:37,020 came from other locations such as our 312 00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:40,079 county-wide or Citywide camera system 313 00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:42,000 Auto transcribe which helps us 314 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,440 transcribe uh finding on camera footage 315 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,760 right now we've sent that out and it 316 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:49,859 costs money every time we do it and that 317 00:34:49,859 --> 00:34:51,240 acts on records which is something 318 00:34:51,240 --> 00:34:54,240 that's still in the works but we see 319 00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,040 that as being a records management 320 00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:58,320 system of the future based on everything 321 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,660 that they're doing already 322 00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:03,780 this comes with an auto refresh every 323 00:35:03,780 --> 00:35:06,180 two and a half years so we immediately 324 00:35:06,180 --> 00:35:08,760 get the equipment in year one year five 325 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:12,720 you're seven point five and you're 10. 326 00:35:12,720 --> 00:35:15,240 so the the 327 00:35:15,240 --> 00:35:16,920 big question here that I want to make 328 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,260 sure that I stress is 329 00:35:19,260 --> 00:35:22,079 how does this improve Public Safety the 330 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,820 first thing to tell you is that axon's 331 00:35:23,820 --> 00:35:24,660 mission 332 00:35:24,660 --> 00:35:26,339 to grab my attention right away is to 333 00:35:26,339 --> 00:35:28,020 protect life that's the mission of the 334 00:35:28,020 --> 00:35:30,660 company to capture the truth 335 00:35:30,660 --> 00:35:33,359 accelerate Justice and really what they 336 00:35:33,359 --> 00:35:35,099 want to do is make the bullet obsolete 337 00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:36,720 that's their mission 338 00:35:36,720 --> 00:35:38,280 but protecting life is the most 339 00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:39,960 important thing and it's important to me 340 00:35:39,960 --> 00:35:42,420 because officer the office lives of 341 00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,740 officers out there protecting the 342 00:35:43,740 --> 00:35:46,260 communities my most important mission 343 00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:48,839 right now it's also important that we 344 00:35:48,839 --> 00:35:51,420 protect the lives of the public that are 345 00:35:51,420 --> 00:35:53,339 out there being placed 346 00:35:53,339 --> 00:35:54,900 I'm capturing the truth is going to help 347 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:56,579 do that it's going to help do it through 348 00:35:56,579 --> 00:35:57,839 accountability 349 00:35:57,839 --> 00:35:59,700 more encounters captured on Bodywork 350 00:35:59,700 --> 00:36:02,760 cameras between the safe sidearm signal 351 00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:05,940 the auto activations and also something 352 00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,880 I didn't mention but 353 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:11,520 the the uh the auto activation happens 354 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,680 when if an officer is reporting and 355 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:15,900 another officer comes on the scene it'll 356 00:36:15,900 --> 00:36:17,700 automatic turns the other officer's body 357 00:36:17,700 --> 00:36:19,920 won't handle on also as long as one's 358 00:36:19,920 --> 00:36:21,660 activated 359 00:36:21,660 --> 00:36:24,180 it helps us with transparency to the 360 00:36:24,180 --> 00:36:25,859 public which I know is very important to 361 00:36:25,859 --> 00:36:27,119 the public 362 00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,040 we do that through Auto reaction Auto 363 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,380 transcription make it easier for the 364 00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:33,839 police Personnel to share information 365 00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:35,579 easier to share evidence with District 366 00:36:35,579 --> 00:36:39,599 Attorneys defense councils ports Etc 367 00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,300 helps us with Community engagement using 368 00:36:42,300 --> 00:36:44,160 this technology provides a bridge to the 369 00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,960 Community Helping to keep their 370 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:48,060 communities safe citizens can share 371 00:36:48,060 --> 00:36:50,160 videos of incidents with the police in a 372 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,500 timely and less intrusive manner 373 00:36:52,500 --> 00:36:54,359 you also can use the virtual reality 374 00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:56,339 platform to share with the public the 375 00:36:56,339 --> 00:36:58,859 complexities of policing to being a 376 00:36:58,859 --> 00:37:01,380 better understanding of what police have 377 00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:03,359 to deal with and share with the public 378 00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:05,700 why sometimes things don't look as good 379 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:08,820 as as they really as they are and and 380 00:37:08,820 --> 00:37:11,099 have a better understanding that 381 00:37:11,099 --> 00:37:13,619 sometimes situations don't always have 382 00:37:13,619 --> 00:37:16,440 perfect outcomes there's not always an 383 00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:20,750 easy Pathway to a solution 384 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,099 um improves Public Safety by providing 385 00:37:23,099 --> 00:37:25,680 long-term cost savings by locking in 386 00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,380 2022 pricing you have until the year 387 00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:31,260 2020 2032 before the price of this 388 00:37:31,260 --> 00:37:33,119 technology will go up 389 00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:34,440 and we're getting state-of-the-art 390 00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:37,680 equipment over the next 10 years 391 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:39,000 um you know and how does that help 392 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,040 Public Safety we can redirect resources 393 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,540 we otherwise would put close that 394 00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:46,130 technology in other places 395 00:37:46,140 --> 00:37:47,700 and I also mentioned I mentioned this 396 00:37:47,700 --> 00:37:49,260 already but I'll say it again because it 397 00:37:49,260 --> 00:37:51,420 helps with Public Safety is the virtual 398 00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:52,800 reality training is really 399 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:56,160 state-of-the-art it's realistic it helps 400 00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,839 with de-escalation it helps with 401 00:37:57,839 --> 00:37:59,640 response to Mental Health crisis 402 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,040 domestic violence response to active 403 00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:05,520 Shooters shoot don't shoot scenarios but 404 00:38:05,520 --> 00:38:07,740 the decision whether to use a Taser or 405 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:10,760 your sidearm Community engagement 406 00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:13,320 response to harm reduction scenarios 407 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:15,359 like what to do with somebody who might 408 00:38:15,359 --> 00:38:18,660 be you know living in poverty possibly 409 00:38:18,660 --> 00:38:21,960 homeless and how to help them 410 00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,760 and then the last thing for Public 411 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,980 Safety again is Exxon performance 412 00:38:25,980 --> 00:38:27,780 provides police supervisors and 413 00:38:27,780 --> 00:38:29,880 commanders a platform to measure officer 414 00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:31,980 performance all the way from from 415 00:38:31,980 --> 00:38:36,650 accountability to productivity 416 00:38:36,660 --> 00:38:39,660 so I'm open to questions if anybody has 417 00:38:39,660 --> 00:38:42,359 any but my request is that the uh that 418 00:38:42,359 --> 00:38:45,599 we move forward and allows to enter to 419 00:38:45,599 --> 00:38:47,760 read separate agreements 420 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:49,740 thank you any questions or comments or 421 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:54,010 fellow counselors 422 00:38:54,020 --> 00:38:58,079 how much of this gonna cost us initially 423 00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,380 the uh the first 424 00:39:00,380 --> 00:39:03,960 initially I guess it's fair to say that 425 00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,599 we we have the funding set aside already 426 00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:09,000 through grants and through capital 427 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:12,060 budget for all of these equipments for 428 00:39:12,060 --> 00:39:14,520 pre-initial funding but for the officer 429 00:39:14,520 --> 00:39:18,900 safety plan is 278 000 per year 430 00:39:18,900 --> 00:39:25,020 and then for the in-car video it's eighty nine 431 00:39:25,020 --> 00:39:26,940 thousand dollars 432 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:30,000 and then for the interview room it's 433 00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:37,390 twenty thousand seven hundred 434 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,380 DA's office should pay for well they 435 00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:43,740 will pay for the interview room as well 436 00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:49,800 so what do we need to fund now 300 plus 89 000. right now there's there's 437 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,839 no funding requests because we already 438 00:39:51,839 --> 00:39:54,180 have the money earmarked through Grant 439 00:39:54,180 --> 00:39:58,320 sources and through Capital uh 440 00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,960 already approved Capital funding we 441 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:03,420 won't be needing to have funding 442 00:40:03,420 --> 00:40:06,060 requests implemented for you until year 443 00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:08,520 three which we which our plan would be 444 00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:10,380 to have it built into our operational 445 00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:12,180 budget 446 00:40:12,180 --> 00:40:13,500 thank you 447 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:18,370 any other questions or comments 448 00:40:18,380 --> 00:40:21,300 so thank you Mr Williams 449 00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:24,960 um just listening to what type um just 450 00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,700 all the time that it's going to save 451 00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,940 officers and lyrical work and things can 452 00:40:29,940 --> 00:40:33,680 you actually see a savings in this 453 00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:37,319 I do I do I say I see I see Savings in 454 00:40:37,319 --> 00:40:39,960 many different places from our civilian 455 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,540 staff meeting West civilian staff to do 456 00:40:42,540 --> 00:40:43,619 some of the work that this will do 457 00:40:43,619 --> 00:40:46,079 automatically and then saving on our 458 00:40:46,079 --> 00:40:47,640 training in where we could do more 459 00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,440 on-shift training using the virtual 460 00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:52,140 reality platform we will very soon have 461 00:40:52,140 --> 00:40:54,720 our range Deployable in that area we 462 00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:56,280 could use for the virtual reality 463 00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:59,520 training and then from not having to do 464 00:40:59,520 --> 00:41:01,040 the tagging 465 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,839 there's a Time Savings where we can get 466 00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:09,950 officers back on the street much faster 467 00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,200 I just wanted to um say so this also 468 00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,180 comes with that discount if we if we 469 00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:17,280 sign the contract if we move forward 470 00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,079 with this contract they were seemed like 471 00:41:19,079 --> 00:41:21,530 a 472 00:41:21,540 --> 00:41:23,160 like us because we were going for a 473 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:24,780 multi-year 474 00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:27,180 contract and I like if you want to just 475 00:41:27,180 --> 00:41:30,359 reiterate that that's that's true excuse 476 00:41:30,359 --> 00:41:31,740 me um 477 00:41:31,740 --> 00:41:33,180 it comes with this pretty substantial 478 00:41:33,180 --> 00:41:34,440 discount 479 00:41:34,440 --> 00:41:36,119 the um 480 00:41:36,119 --> 00:41:38,220 for the officer safety plan there's a 481 00:41:38,220 --> 00:41:43,790 built-in 141 482 00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:46,560 there's a built-in 1.4 million dollar 483 00:41:46,560 --> 00:41:50,040 total savings which is 141 000 per year 484 00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:52,200 and that's the savings from bumbling it 485 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,079 together and having entering into a 486 00:41:55,079 --> 00:41:58,500 10-year agreement which 487 00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:01,260 um is actually a five-year agreement 488 00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:04,200 with a five-year Auto renewal right the 489 00:42:04,200 --> 00:42:05,700 city would have the opportunity to act 490 00:42:05,700 --> 00:42:08,460 out after five years the City also has 491 00:42:08,460 --> 00:42:10,200 the opportunity 492 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,660 to opt out if the council does not fund 493 00:42:12,660 --> 00:42:16,309 it each year 494 00:42:16,319 --> 00:42:19,859 for the for the uh in car videos it's a 495 00:42:19,859 --> 00:42:22,680 total of 300 000 savings by entering 496 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,420 into this agreement all at once and then 497 00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:25,920 for the interview it's a fifty two 498 00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:28,680 thousand dollar savings 499 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:31,980 full for 10 years 500 00:42:31,980 --> 00:42:33,300 that's perfect 501 00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:34,619 um Jake you mentioned something about 502 00:42:34,619 --> 00:42:36,780 bias prevention features could you just 503 00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:38,520 examine that a little bit 504 00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,380 that's part of their virtual reality 505 00:42:40,380 --> 00:42:41,940 which is they're going to create 506 00:42:41,940 --> 00:42:43,800 platforms 507 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:46,500 um to work in that space to help train 508 00:42:46,500 --> 00:42:53,089 officers to avoid implicit bias 509 00:42:53,099 --> 00:42:56,540 falling so Chief first of all thank you 510 00:42:56,540 --> 00:43:00,540 and I guess my question is around it 511 00:43:00,540 --> 00:43:02,099 seems like we'll be able to really 512 00:43:02,099 --> 00:43:05,099 capture a lot more data this way and a 513 00:43:05,099 --> 00:43:06,540 lot more efficiently which I think we'll 514 00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:08,940 have some here I'll call savings there 515 00:43:08,940 --> 00:43:13,440 um to further that we would set that in 516 00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:15,540 the more of having that cloud which I 517 00:43:15,540 --> 00:43:17,940 was really I think is a really powerful 518 00:43:17,940 --> 00:43:21,119 thing as they're going to be any policy 519 00:43:21,119 --> 00:43:23,400 changes like around a group so when we 520 00:43:23,400 --> 00:43:25,500 increase the the 521 00:43:25,500 --> 00:43:28,500 capacity to capture data to your point 522 00:43:28,500 --> 00:43:29,880 kind of like transparency is there 523 00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:30,960 anything you need you foresee any 524 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:32,940 positive changes around us who can see 525 00:43:32,940 --> 00:43:36,119 videos like like uh like is it video 526 00:43:36,119 --> 00:43:38,640 analy that we can capture this much 527 00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,440 video now is it something that like the 528 00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,460 police 529 00:43:41,460 --> 00:43:43,260 for Community review board would have 530 00:43:43,260 --> 00:43:45,119 access to them and things like that I 531 00:43:45,119 --> 00:43:46,800 can see that in the future once we get 532 00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,319 it up and running I can see us being 533 00:43:49,319 --> 00:43:51,599 able to share videos a lot easier right 534 00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:54,420 now our our our biggest reason for not 535 00:43:54,420 --> 00:43:56,400 sharing videos is resource dependent on 536 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,640 the ability to Auto redact and even Auto 537 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:01,740 transcribe is going to make it a lot 538 00:44:01,740 --> 00:44:04,200 easier for us to attach those videos and 539 00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:05,640 uh and that's the biggest reason we 540 00:44:05,640 --> 00:44:07,560 don't share them is that it takes almost 541 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,119 eight hours to their document right now 542 00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,660 right so the answer is yes as we evolve 543 00:44:12,660 --> 00:44:14,819 we will change our policies to reflect 544 00:44:14,819 --> 00:44:18,410 our capabilities 545 00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:21,180 any other questions or comments 546 00:44:21,180 --> 00:44:23,400 I know for myself I had the opportunity 547 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,440 to meet with Chief Clifford and just 548 00:44:25,440 --> 00:44:27,119 have more of a deep dive into the 549 00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:29,280 student benefits this program having a 550 00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:30,780 background of the civilian police review 551 00:44:30,780 --> 00:44:33,420 board I've seen some of the issues that 552 00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:35,579 kind of inherently the police department 553 00:44:35,579 --> 00:44:38,579 deals with where audible cameras aren't 554 00:44:38,579 --> 00:44:41,220 activated due to situational issues and 555 00:44:41,220 --> 00:44:42,720 a lot of these Technologies are going to 556 00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:44,700 help deal with that so I appreciate you 557 00:44:44,700 --> 00:44:45,960 going into detail about how this 558 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:49,800 benefits the public and I 559 00:44:49,800 --> 00:44:51,960 excited to see how this should we 560 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:54,599 approve it benefits our city at large so 561 00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:56,099 if there are any further comments if I 562 00:44:56,099 --> 00:44:58,560 can have emotions so second all is your 563 00:44:58,560 --> 00:44:59,880 favorite five 564 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,640 thank you thank you thanks Steve and 565 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:03,900 then we're going to move to the next 566 00:45:03,900 --> 00:45:07,380 agenda item which is fiscal year 2022 567 00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:09,359 State Homeland Security grant program 568 00:45:09,359 --> 00:45:13,140 and that'll be PC membership I couldn't 569 00:45:13,140 --> 00:45:15,300 pass this one move along so I tried 570 00:45:15,300 --> 00:45:17,410 um 571 00:45:17,420 --> 00:45:19,680 restaurant College is kind of a joint 572 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:21,240 Endeavor that we've been doing for years 573 00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:26,579 this year we rewarded the 23 000 670 in 574 00:45:26,579 --> 00:45:27,960 the legislation request you'll see the 575 00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,060 breakdown and we kind of have some 576 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:32,760 Envision but if we would towards the 577 00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:35,160 accident program and we wanted to 578 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,640 allocate this money towards 198 670 579 00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,619 000 towards the Exxon program 580 00:45:40,619 --> 00:45:42,060 um there is a five thousand dollar 581 00:45:42,060 --> 00:45:44,160 support of C Central Station program 582 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:46,560 which is a state initiative that 583 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:48,300 we weren't necessarily mandated to 584 00:45:48,300 --> 00:45:50,220 participate in those strongly suggested 585 00:45:50,220 --> 00:45:52,619 and maybe we'll be preparing some some 586 00:45:52,619 --> 00:45:56,819 opportunity as well this is tied in with 587 00:45:56,819 --> 00:45:58,619 the health care system or any car video 588 00:45:58,619 --> 00:46:02,160 system where we as Chief has stated just 589 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,020 to dive into the budget you know we 590 00:46:04,020 --> 00:46:05,640 constantly look for Grants and to answer 591 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,680 your question about funding for this we 592 00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:09,119 have two years worth of funding 593 00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:10,920 available right now for the secure next 594 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:12,839 year's experience like you said have 595 00:46:12,839 --> 00:46:14,760 been historically keep on coming that we 596 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,099 feel we can continue to tap into to 597 00:46:17,099 --> 00:46:19,440 serve the purpose of the Soul Exxon plan 598 00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:20,760 we know it's very expensive but it's 599 00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:23,280 very important to the department and 600 00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,079 we'll continue to research for some 601 00:46:25,079 --> 00:46:27,000 funds and this is just one example of 602 00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:30,349 how we're doing that as well 603 00:46:30,359 --> 00:46:36,770 questions 604 00:46:36,780 --> 00:46:40,089 um 605 00:46:40,099 --> 00:46:42,480 thank you thank you you're gonna skip 606 00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:44,579 back to the top uh it's going to be 607 00:46:44,579 --> 00:46:56,870 portable radios by Chief corner 608 00:46:56,880 --> 00:46:58,920 so I come to talk to you about a gram of 609 00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:01,380 the receipt so if I first granted a year 610 00:47:01,380 --> 00:47:04,380 ago it's a FEMA gram that's called 611 00:47:04,380 --> 00:47:07,319 assistance required levels 612 00:47:07,319 --> 00:47:10,560 our main focus when we wrote this grant 613 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:13,440 was the accountability and safety of our 614 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,960 Personnel not only our fire scenes but 615 00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:20,390 also in a large scale 616 00:47:20,400 --> 00:47:22,500 and what was available as far as 617 00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:24,180 accountability 618 00:47:24,180 --> 00:47:26,760 programs really didn't do what we were 619 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:28,380 looking for 620 00:47:28,380 --> 00:47:30,900 the technology just wasn't there 621 00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:33,359 so we looked in into a little bit deeper 622 00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:35,160 and 623 00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,500 the portable radios that we currently 624 00:47:37,500 --> 00:47:39,000 have 625 00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:41,240 um let me just back up 626 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:44,640 recently the county just went to a whole 627 00:47:44,640 --> 00:47:46,200 new radio system they found another 628 00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,119 Advanced radio system 629 00:47:48,119 --> 00:47:50,520 so it has a lot of benefit to one of the 630 00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:54,780 benefits is GPS 631 00:47:54,780 --> 00:47:57,059 we have the ability now to locate 632 00:47:57,059 --> 00:47:59,520 Whoever has that radio and where they 633 00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:00,300 are 634 00:48:00,300 --> 00:48:01,559 so that 635 00:48:01,559 --> 00:48:04,619 is a major reason why we went for 636 00:48:04,619 --> 00:48:06,960 additional renewals we broke this grant 637 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:09,420 to purchase 638 00:48:09,420 --> 00:48:13,260 another 57 radios to supplement what we 639 00:48:13,260 --> 00:48:15,660 already have on the job now and what 640 00:48:15,660 --> 00:48:18,300 we'll be able to do is to issue a radio 641 00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:20,640 to every member on the department so 642 00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,380 when that member has that radio and it's 643 00:48:22,380 --> 00:48:25,319 turned on it will be able to look and 644 00:48:25,319 --> 00:48:27,680 that is a huge accountability 645 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,359 factor for this 646 00:48:30,359 --> 00:48:33,720 so we wrote the Grant and it's a 458 000 647 00:48:33,720 --> 00:48:36,119 plus dollar Grant 648 00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:37,400 um 649 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:42,000 there is a city's component to it this 650 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:44,220 City would have to 651 00:48:44,220 --> 00:48:48,240 um supplement 41 000 plus and we already 652 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:51,500 have the funding in our budget floor so 653 00:48:51,500 --> 00:48:55,260 we moved that we I asked that you 654 00:48:55,260 --> 00:48:59,880 approved us that we've accepted Grant 655 00:48:59,880 --> 00:49:00,960 thank you 656 00:49:00,960 --> 00:49:02,900 any questions or comments 657 00:49:02,900 --> 00:49:05,819 I'll second it all in favor all right 658 00:49:05,819 --> 00:49:09,540 thank you and then lastly we were 659 00:49:09,540 --> 00:49:10,619 questioning the New York State's 660 00:49:10,619 --> 00:49:12,480 Department transportation cleanup by Mr 661 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:15,599 twice thank you 662 00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,300 um so I'd like to request the resolution 663 00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:20,520 that um 664 00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,740 I'd like to request set a resolution be 665 00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:24,240 sent to New York State Department of 666 00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:26,880 Transportation to take action to clean 667 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:33,109 up our 668 00:49:33,119 --> 00:49:37,500 of um in Route 7 coming into Schenectady 669 00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:40,339 and surrounding Schenectady 670 00:49:40,339 --> 00:49:43,079 I've recently seen that mowing has 671 00:49:43,079 --> 00:49:46,130 started but 672 00:49:46,140 --> 00:49:48,119 to 673 00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:50,640 immediately to the New York State 674 00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,500 Department of Transportation asking that 675 00:49:52,500 --> 00:49:55,140 it's a regular scheduled Mowing and 676 00:49:55,140 --> 00:50:00,710 cleanup 677 00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:04,980 any questions or comments yeah so was it 678 00:50:04,980 --> 00:50:06,660 should we be doing the resolution we 679 00:50:06,660 --> 00:50:08,339 should we ask for a lot of requested 680 00:50:08,339 --> 00:50:10,740 that they do that 681 00:50:10,740 --> 00:50:14,880 again a big resolution I was told to 682 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:16,940 request oh 683 00:50:16,940 --> 00:50:19,200 that we should do resolution form as a 684 00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:21,180 phone as opposed to live 685 00:50:21,180 --> 00:50:28,370 request yeah 686 00:50:28,380 --> 00:50:30,000 certainly the city council can pass the 687 00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:32,700 resolution you know directing anything 688 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,800 you know requesting that the state take 689 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,260 action but you know obviously we did 690 00:50:37,260 --> 00:50:39,000 that last at the last council meeting 691 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,059 you know with a resolution to the state 692 00:50:41,059 --> 00:50:43,859 to take action related to speed cameras 693 00:50:43,859 --> 00:50:45,780 so it's something that would defend the 694 00:50:45,780 --> 00:50:46,980 city council for passing resolution 695 00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:48,660 asking that the Department of 696 00:50:48,660 --> 00:50:52,079 Transportation take care of Route 7 and 697 00:50:52,079 --> 00:50:56,210 Interstate e-90 quarters 698 00:50:56,220 --> 00:50:59,520 you have a question Mr mcgrant um yeah 699 00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:02,180 um did we come to this in the past 700 00:51:02,180 --> 00:51:04,260 if we had 701 00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:05,780 been 702 00:51:05,780 --> 00:51:09,900 very levels of effort put by the state 703 00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,700 and some of their right-of-ways from 704 00:51:11,700 --> 00:51:15,059 staffing issues so it becomes 705 00:51:15,059 --> 00:51:16,859 you get a wetter season of course 706 00:51:16,859 --> 00:51:18,800 there's more growth and then of course 707 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,020 it's what people do in terms of General 708 00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:25,500 litter other things which detract phones 709 00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,119 of people behave themselves of course it 710 00:51:27,119 --> 00:51:29,579 looks better if they don't there's a 711 00:51:29,579 --> 00:51:32,220 more negative impact otherwise just stop 712 00:51:32,220 --> 00:51:33,900 which thumbs to our deal team the 713 00:51:33,900 --> 00:51:36,240 regards to this I have not reached out 714 00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:38,760 to dot units 715 00:51:38,760 --> 00:51:40,079 thing that you want to do more 716 00:51:40,079 --> 00:51:42,140 administrative because 717 00:51:42,140 --> 00:51:44,940 you have the capacity 718 00:51:44,940 --> 00:51:46,680 more than happy to call the regional 719 00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,880 director 720 00:51:47,880 --> 00:51:49,980 picking up through specific areas too 721 00:51:49,980 --> 00:51:52,380 when concentrated on 722 00:51:52,380 --> 00:51:53,400 this 723 00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,240 the whole quarter and the whole economy 724 00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,880 exit five coming down into the city 725 00:51:59,880 --> 00:52:01,700 um seven foot 726 00:52:01,700 --> 00:52:04,500 growth okay I'm trash you know people 727 00:52:04,500 --> 00:52:06,420 pull up at the light throw something out 728 00:52:06,420 --> 00:52:09,660 and move on but again with the litter 729 00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:11,940 policy that we have going on in the city 730 00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:13,740 um 731 00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:16,140 supposed to touch that trash so again 732 00:52:16,140 --> 00:52:18,660 coming down any exit into the city it's 733 00:52:18,660 --> 00:52:20,119 just 734 00:52:20,119 --> 00:52:23,760 overgrown hello Miss Patrick I mean I 735 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:28,430 can say that in my specific 736 00:52:28,440 --> 00:52:30,359 hair cleanups at 737 00:52:30,359 --> 00:52:31,559 of the 738 00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,420 things that is near Broadway you know on 739 00:52:33,420 --> 00:52:36,180 Broadway and we actually had stopped 740 00:52:36,180 --> 00:52:38,460 doing so well I'm just saying that 741 00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:40,740 volunteers can't really do it easily 742 00:52:40,740 --> 00:52:42,599 over the dot had changed their 743 00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:44,160 guidelines so we do 744 00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:47,220 Park cleanup instead but I would support 745 00:52:47,220 --> 00:52:50,220 this resolution because I think that um 746 00:52:50,220 --> 00:52:52,440 having like I hope that the miracle call 747 00:52:52,440 --> 00:52:53,840 also but I 748 00:52:53,840 --> 00:52:55,859 [Music] 749 00:52:55,859 --> 00:52:57,780 did as we have done now a couple of 750 00:52:57,780 --> 00:52:59,940 times over the last several weeks 751 00:52:59,940 --> 00:53:03,540 might add to emergency and I think 752 00:53:03,540 --> 00:53:05,160 anything we can be doing to try to 753 00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:07,740 purify especially the entrances to our 754 00:53:07,740 --> 00:53:11,640 city it's really good so 755 00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:15,000 any other questions so um can we like 756 00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,619 add a request for signage as well 757 00:53:16,619 --> 00:53:17,880 because I know there used to be a time 758 00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:18,960 when there was a sign that were 759 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:20,700 assignment on there that said this is 760 00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:23,660 much of a fine for living so it might be 761 00:53:23,660 --> 00:53:26,400 worthwhile to if requested those if we 762 00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,700 could get signage again as well 763 00:53:29,700 --> 00:53:31,559 any other questions or comments yeah 764 00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:35,760 just so Mr okay so I but I hear you 765 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:39,059 saying is that so so we don't have to 766 00:53:39,059 --> 00:53:41,339 kind of pick we do both right the mayor 767 00:53:41,339 --> 00:53:43,500 could you know make that call if you 768 00:53:43,500 --> 00:53:46,440 decide to do so and then a resolution 769 00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,660 um with all of our signatures on it you 770 00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:50,160 know for lack of a better term might you 771 00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:52,380 know demonstrate a little more 772 00:53:52,380 --> 00:53:53,819 significant we draw a little more 773 00:53:53,819 --> 00:53:56,180 attention to this right here yeah 774 00:53:56,180 --> 00:53:59,040 absolutely I mean I know I campaign that 775 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:00,839 and I'm sure everyone campaigns on it 776 00:54:00,839 --> 00:54:02,819 you know it's quality of life issues 777 00:54:02,819 --> 00:54:08,809 here in the city I don't want to see it 778 00:54:08,819 --> 00:54:10,260 your comments 779 00:54:10,260 --> 00:54:14,579 if there are none if we have a motion to 780 00:54:14,579 --> 00:54:17,520 prove the resolution and in addition to 781 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:18,839 requesting signage if I heard that 782 00:54:18,839 --> 00:54:19,859 correctly 783 00:54:19,859 --> 00:54:22,910 that's part of the message 784 00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:26,520 so second all's in favor hi 785 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:28,460 if there are no other items to before 786 00:54:28,460 --> 00:54:32,940 safety contact promotion to turn second 787 00:54:32,940 --> 00:54:38,390 favorite 788 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,200 I'd like to call to order health and 789 00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:43,140 Recreation we have one item on the 790 00:54:43,140 --> 00:54:46,740 agenda and that is to um authorize the 791 00:54:46,740 --> 00:54:48,299 mayor to enter into an agreement with 792 00:54:48,299 --> 00:54:52,079 wmb golf carts for the lease of 62 793 00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:53,720 Libyan power 794 00:54:53,720 --> 00:54:56,520 golf carts and GPS systems at 795 00:54:56,520 --> 00:54:58,920 Schenectady uni and um 796 00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:05,510 it asked Mr Dan 797 00:55:05,520 --> 00:55:09,370 good evening everybody 798 00:55:09,380 --> 00:55:13,020 just described we're asking the city to 799 00:55:13,020 --> 00:55:15,599 authorize an agreement into a five-year 800 00:55:15,599 --> 00:55:17,599 at least 801 00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:21,299 wmb golf carts they are 802 00:55:21,299 --> 00:55:23,520 proprietor of Yamaha 803 00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,099 golf carts and that is currently the 804 00:55:26,099 --> 00:55:28,500 vendor that we're using right now 805 00:55:28,500 --> 00:55:30,599 we have gas powered carts right now it's 806 00:55:30,599 --> 00:55:32,640 kind of a hybrid version where they 807 00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,760 sustain better gasoline mileage 808 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:37,619 you feel that it's better to move into a 809 00:55:37,619 --> 00:55:40,319 Lithium powered battery operated golf 810 00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:43,740 cart just get out of the old gas and a 811 00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:45,900 view of things 812 00:55:45,900 --> 00:55:48,540 particular batteries 813 00:55:48,540 --> 00:55:50,880 apparently hold a longer charge 814 00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,040 throughout the course of the day so for 815 00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:55,079 instance if one of you wanted to play 816 00:55:55,079 --> 00:55:57,420 you go out for 18 holes you can go out 817 00:55:57,420 --> 00:55:59,700 and play another two rounds of 18 holes 818 00:55:59,700 --> 00:56:01,380 on one charge 819 00:56:01,380 --> 00:56:02,640 there's a lot of golf would be a little 820 00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:03,980 tired 821 00:56:03,980 --> 00:56:06,780 all the way through it 822 00:56:06,780 --> 00:56:07,500 um 823 00:56:07,500 --> 00:56:10,040 and the maintenance is just it's 824 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:13,140 ridiculously small as compared to what 825 00:56:13,140 --> 00:56:14,579 you have to do with a battery or a gas 826 00:56:14,579 --> 00:56:16,619 powered car now the engine making sure 827 00:56:16,619 --> 00:56:19,140 that's running up you know tips out and 828 00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:22,140 then when you had lead battery uh 829 00:56:22,140 --> 00:56:23,940 carts I don't know if you've ever seen 830 00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,500 But when you lift the seat up you can 831 00:56:25,500 --> 00:56:26,819 see all the batteries in there and you 832 00:56:26,819 --> 00:56:29,160 actually have to fill each battery with 833 00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:31,319 water with lithium you don't have to do 834 00:56:31,319 --> 00:56:35,040 anything it's just charge it you're not 835 00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:37,559 um so we came to the decision to go with 836 00:56:37,559 --> 00:56:40,380 wmb again based on the numbers they just 837 00:56:40,380 --> 00:56:43,640 provided a much more uh competitive 838 00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:47,760 number than the other two did 839 00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:50,059 especially with their GPS 840 00:56:50,059 --> 00:56:52,260 units that they're going to install the 841 00:56:52,260 --> 00:56:55,140 carts for us the GPS is a nice feature 842 00:56:55,140 --> 00:56:56,640 for golfers they can see how far they 843 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:59,880 are to the hole on of course we can put 844 00:56:59,880 --> 00:57:01,740 advertising on there create some more 845 00:57:01,740 --> 00:57:04,020 additional revenue for the course and a 846 00:57:04,020 --> 00:57:06,119 benefit for the staff and myself is we 847 00:57:06,119 --> 00:57:07,740 can see where every single golf cart is 848 00:57:07,740 --> 00:57:08,880 in the golf course 849 00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,859 and now they've even gotten so updated 850 00:57:10,859 --> 00:57:13,140 that we can see for instance if your car 851 00:57:13,140 --> 00:57:16,319 was out on the 15th hole it's near a 852 00:57:16,319 --> 00:57:18,420 very low charge we could run out and 853 00:57:18,420 --> 00:57:20,640 replace it for you so it doesn't happen 854 00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,640 another benefit is if a player is 855 00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:25,380 driving into an area they're not 856 00:57:25,380 --> 00:57:26,700 supposed to be like an entirely 857 00:57:26,700 --> 00:57:29,940 sensitive area the car will shut off and 858 00:57:29,940 --> 00:57:31,200 then they would have to literally back 859 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:33,900 up out of that area 860 00:57:33,900 --> 00:57:35,700 so we may be shutting those off about 861 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:38,240 100 times a day 862 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:41,359 but we will be able to do that so 863 00:57:41,359 --> 00:57:43,740 they'll be much quieter 864 00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:45,660 like I said much less maintenance I 865 00:57:45,660 --> 00:57:48,950 think it's 866 00:57:48,960 --> 00:57:50,520 I think if you have any questions that 867 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:54,770 we have to answer those questions 868 00:57:54,780 --> 00:57:57,839 okay if there's no questions or comments 869 00:57:57,839 --> 00:58:00,540 I'd like to ask for a motion absolutely 870 00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:03,119 the second second all in favor 871 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:09,770 aye okay thanks 872 00:58:09,780 --> 00:58:12,420 oh I'm sorry I'd like to call for a 873 00:58:12,420 --> 00:58:14,040 motion to adjourn uh health and 874 00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:17,339 Recreation in a second and all in favor 875 00:58:17,339 --> 00:58:19,859 thank you that's called government 876 00:58:19,859 --> 00:58:22,260 operations order we have one 877 00:58:22,260 --> 00:58:25,079 item on the agenda and that is a 878 00:58:25,079 --> 00:58:27,299 reminder amending amending of the city 879 00:58:27,299 --> 00:58:28,859 ordinance regard to residency 880 00:58:28,859 --> 00:58:30,359 requirement and this 881 00:58:30,359 --> 00:58:33,359 Mr President Porterfield thank you so um 882 00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:34,680 you know we've been discussing this and 883 00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,299 we did have a public hearing regarding 884 00:58:36,299 --> 00:58:39,839 amending the state ordinance 876 debt 885 00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:42,480 one we've already residency we had five 886 00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,220 people come to speak of public hearing 887 00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:47,579 and um on the 8th so next step is 888 00:58:47,579 --> 00:58:49,200 actually ringing before the council for 889 00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:51,480 those things on that so if anyone has 890 00:58:51,480 --> 00:58:54,540 any questions or concerns about the 891 00:58:54,540 --> 00:58:56,460 discussion that that happened at the 892 00:58:56,460 --> 00:59:00,770 city council engagement 893 00:59:00,780 --> 00:59:02,700 just a moment 894 00:59:02,700 --> 00:59:04,559 I still think there needs to be some 895 00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:07,859 sort of differential between City 896 00:59:07,859 --> 00:59:10,200 employees staying in the city and versus 897 00:59:10,200 --> 00:59:11,940 not safe 898 00:59:11,940 --> 00:59:14,640 I have no problem with it expanding the 899 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,160 residency requirements obviously it's 900 00:59:17,160 --> 00:59:18,799 needed but 901 00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:22,140 you know City staff who live in the city 902 00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:25,040 should have some sort of differential 903 00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:29,099 advantage to being here because we've 904 00:59:29,099 --> 00:59:31,500 seen it with the school district where 905 00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:33,660 we have superintendent living in Clifton 906 00:59:33,660 --> 00:59:36,359 Park a vice superintendent living in 907 00:59:36,359 --> 00:59:38,220 this unit engaged with that Community 908 00:59:38,220 --> 00:59:40,680 they're not engaged with our community 909 00:59:40,680 --> 00:59:44,640 and you want our employees to be in the 910 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,200 city if they can because it'll be more 911 00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,359 engaged and 912 00:59:48,359 --> 00:59:50,480 you know we should have some sort of 913 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,920 difference for them 914 00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:54,480 you know if you're not living in the 915 00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:56,520 city you shouldn't make the same mess if 916 00:59:56,520 --> 01:00:04,309 you live in the city 917 01:00:04,319 --> 01:00:05,280 and everything 918 01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:07,020 um but the financial implications of us 919 01:00:07,020 --> 01:00:09,119 trying to do that are going to be huge 920 01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:12,059 we have a lot to look at and um we do 921 01:00:12,059 --> 01:00:14,220 have a board current well there's a 922 01:00:14,220 --> 01:00:16,500 residency board available for us to 923 01:00:16,500 --> 01:00:19,079 waiver for people who when they have a 924 01:00:19,079 --> 01:00:21,180 specialty that we it's difficult for us 925 01:00:21,180 --> 01:00:23,640 to fill we can do that and additionally 926 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:26,040 we already are in the situation where we 927 01:00:26,040 --> 01:00:28,740 have employees who live outside the city 928 01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:31,200 who live in the county and that clearly 929 01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:33,299 demonstrate that we need to be able to 930 01:00:33,299 --> 01:00:36,839 hire and expand our pool of people that 931 01:00:36,839 --> 01:00:40,380 we can hired from and it's not a problem 932 01:00:40,380 --> 01:00:43,020 that's only to Schenectady it's all over 933 01:00:43,020 --> 01:00:45,839 people are struggling to build 934 01:00:45,839 --> 01:00:48,900 um positions we are as I've heard it 935 01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:51,480 described operating on a skeleton crew 936 01:00:51,480 --> 01:00:54,059 of people so I I you know we really need 937 01:00:54,059 --> 01:00:56,339 to um do something so that we're 938 01:00:56,339 --> 01:00:57,780 supporting our employees so that we're 939 01:00:57,780 --> 01:01:00,480 getting the work done so that um people 940 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:02,880 aren't stretched very very thin and 941 01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:04,680 um and I know the mayor always says you 942 01:01:04,680 --> 01:01:06,000 know if we're if we're suffering 943 01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:07,380 anyplace but sometimes things happen 944 01:01:07,380 --> 01:01:08,880 that we aren't getting done that we 945 01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,099 don't always necessarily see initially 946 01:01:11,099 --> 01:01:13,319 so I'm you know I really think that we 947 01:01:13,319 --> 01:01:15,119 should move this forward the county has 948 01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:16,319 already done this they've done this I 949 01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:17,520 didn't think they did this five years 950 01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:19,859 ago or more and 951 01:01:19,859 --> 01:01:20,520 um 952 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,260 I think it's just time we do that in 953 01:01:22,260 --> 01:01:23,880 order to fill some of the numerous 954 01:01:23,880 --> 01:01:26,760 openings that we have in the city 955 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:27,960 so 956 01:01:27,960 --> 01:01:30,720 yeah so I so this is a issue that kind 957 01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:34,440 of my thinking past a long time you know 958 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:36,900 um because originally I was completely 959 01:01:36,900 --> 01:01:38,460 against this 960 01:01:38,460 --> 01:01:40,740 um and I was against it because I want 961 01:01:40,740 --> 01:01:42,720 to make sure that we are prioritizing 962 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,880 people to live that live in the city I 963 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:46,680 want to make sure that the money that 964 01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:47,940 we're paying out in the city is 965 01:01:47,940 --> 01:01:50,280 supporting our current tax paying our 966 01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,799 current tax base as long what what Mr 967 01:01:52,799 --> 01:01:54,780 Pauline is talking about that level of 968 01:01:54,780 --> 01:01:56,520 Engagement investing in the community I 969 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,039 think that those are all good reasons 970 01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:02,220 um to uh you know have some concerns 971 01:02:02,220 --> 01:02:05,460 about this however ultimately 972 01:02:05,460 --> 01:02:07,880 don't have the people 973 01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:10,380 to do the job 974 01:02:10,380 --> 01:02:12,420 right now and considering the current 975 01:02:12,420 --> 01:02:14,460 labor market we have to be responsive 976 01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:16,559 and adapt so I think that you know I 977 01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:18,119 think it really has evolved in that and 978 01:02:18,119 --> 01:02:21,119 I I am in support of this 979 01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:22,380 um 980 01:02:22,380 --> 01:02:24,359 I also would think that we need to be 981 01:02:24,359 --> 01:02:26,160 really thinking about being creative how 982 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,079 we incentivize people living in the city 983 01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:30,299 because that is a I think it's a really 984 01:02:30,299 --> 01:02:32,099 reasonable concern so I think that we 985 01:02:32,099 --> 01:02:35,460 should um when I think 986 01:02:35,460 --> 01:02:40,370 or that might be something that they 987 01:02:40,380 --> 01:02:42,119 appropriate task for them I know to be 988 01:02:42,119 --> 01:02:42,900 able to 989 01:02:42,900 --> 01:02:45,420 better answer that so I mean I think 990 01:02:45,420 --> 01:02:47,339 that all things considered any it's a 991 01:02:47,339 --> 01:02:49,819 reality that we have a responsibility to 992 01:02:49,819 --> 01:02:52,440 address but I also think that we should 993 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:53,940 kind of think about ways that we can 994 01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:56,039 incentivize people to actually literally 995 01:02:56,039 --> 01:02:57,900 see 996 01:02:57,900 --> 01:03:00,480 I actually would say the same thing my 997 01:03:00,480 --> 01:03:02,220 eye was originally 998 01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:03,299 um 999 01:03:03,299 --> 01:03:06,299 against this proposal primarily because 1000 01:03:06,299 --> 01:03:09,660 I really feel very strongly that when 1001 01:03:09,660 --> 01:03:12,180 you have folks living here they're going 1002 01:03:12,180 --> 01:03:13,799 to be invested here they're going to 1003 01:03:13,799 --> 01:03:15,839 have pride here and they'll get involved 1004 01:03:15,839 --> 01:03:17,819 and they will do everything that they 1005 01:03:17,819 --> 01:03:21,359 to make sure that the city remains a 1006 01:03:21,359 --> 01:03:22,920 wonderful place to live it gets even 1007 01:03:22,920 --> 01:03:25,260 better as a place to live I think that 1008 01:03:25,260 --> 01:03:28,319 we've seen on throughout time especially 1009 01:03:28,319 --> 01:03:29,880 through this last 1010 01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:30,420 um 1011 01:03:30,420 --> 01:03:33,240 revitalization Decades of Schenectady 1012 01:03:33,240 --> 01:03:35,339 that it's been groups of people one 1013 01:03:35,339 --> 01:03:36,839 right after the other that have done 1014 01:03:36,839 --> 01:03:39,299 things that have helped this city to 1015 01:03:39,299 --> 01:03:42,359 continue to flourish and grow so I think 1016 01:03:42,359 --> 01:03:45,839 having our employees living here is 1017 01:03:45,839 --> 01:03:47,460 really important 1018 01:03:47,460 --> 01:03:50,579 feel very strongly about that however 1019 01:03:50,579 --> 01:03:53,700 the idea that Mr Paul Manning brought up 1020 01:03:53,700 --> 01:03:55,799 at the last committee meeting of having 1021 01:03:55,799 --> 01:03:58,920 the differential in some way an 1022 01:03:58,920 --> 01:04:02,400 incentive for the employees given the 1023 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:05,339 employment crisis that we are facing 1024 01:04:05,339 --> 01:04:08,280 um and the reason why this brought this 1025 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:09,780 forward to try to increase that 1026 01:04:09,780 --> 01:04:12,960 catchment area I think those two things 1027 01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,059 work very well together I think that we 1028 01:04:15,059 --> 01:04:16,619 should be definitely considering the 1029 01:04:16,619 --> 01:04:18,480 differential so I don't know if we move 1030 01:04:18,480 --> 01:04:21,900 it forward today out of committee 1031 01:04:21,900 --> 01:04:24,780 can we still add on the differential or 1032 01:04:24,780 --> 01:04:25,740 should we be 1033 01:04:25,740 --> 01:04:28,039 adding that in here today 1034 01:04:28,039 --> 01:04:30,539 before we move it out of committee I'm 1035 01:04:30,539 --> 01:04:33,240 asking the question I wasn't 1036 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:35,400 but I I really want to see that 1037 01:04:35,400 --> 01:04:37,140 differential 1038 01:04:37,140 --> 01:04:39,539 um added in 1039 01:04:39,539 --> 01:04:41,579 so those are Financial things that would 1040 01:04:41,579 --> 01:04:43,619 really have to talk to our finance 1041 01:04:43,619 --> 01:04:45,059 department about that's not something we 1042 01:04:45,059 --> 01:04:46,140 can do 1043 01:04:46,140 --> 01:04:49,079 today and say that I will say though 1044 01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:51,539 that it uh for to me for me we would 1045 01:04:51,539 --> 01:04:52,799 definitely include the fact that if we 1046 01:04:52,799 --> 01:04:55,619 had two employee two candidates who were 1047 01:04:55,619 --> 01:04:58,079 people and one lives in the city and one 1048 01:04:58,079 --> 01:04:59,760 lives in the county then the person in 1049 01:04:59,760 --> 01:05:00,839 the city is the person that we would 1050 01:05:00,839 --> 01:05:02,579 choose to definitely have that part of 1051 01:05:02,579 --> 01:05:05,160 the legislation but it would really 1052 01:05:05,160 --> 01:05:07,859 increase our bottom line if we were to 1053 01:05:07,859 --> 01:05:09,599 try to and would push this out even 1054 01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,760 further if we would really try to make 1055 01:05:11,760 --> 01:05:13,079 sure we get those financial things in 1056 01:05:13,079 --> 01:05:14,400 place I know we're going into budget 1057 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,960 season and that's certainly something we 1058 01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:19,250 can consider at that time 1059 01:05:19,260 --> 01:05:20,880 so I know for me I think if we're 1060 01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:22,619 discussing differentials they would have 1061 01:05:22,619 --> 01:05:24,299 to incorporate staff Who currently live 1062 01:05:24,299 --> 01:05:26,039 within the city for it to be implemented 1063 01:05:26,039 --> 01:05:29,520 equitably in my opinion but I think if 1064 01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:31,980 there was an opportunity to raise wages 1065 01:05:31,980 --> 01:05:34,799 even in deferential I would be more in 1066 01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:36,660 line with rewarding the staff that 1067 01:05:36,660 --> 01:05:38,819 remained on despite our staffing 1068 01:05:38,819 --> 01:05:41,640 limitations and we're still invested in 1069 01:05:41,640 --> 01:05:43,880 the city despite having limited 1070 01:05:43,880 --> 01:05:49,069 Staffing I think if we're going to 1071 01:05:49,079 --> 01:05:51,660 Courtney wage differences I again the 1072 01:05:51,660 --> 01:05:53,160 work that our city employees are doing 1073 01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:55,200 in their current situations is 1074 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,240 applaudible and I appreciate everyone 1075 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:59,099 who continues to be a part of all the 1076 01:05:59,099 --> 01:06:00,299 work that is happening here in this 1077 01:06:00,299 --> 01:06:02,819 building and 1078 01:06:02,819 --> 01:06:05,460 increase the level of applicants and 1079 01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:08,039 prioritize living in the city again my 1080 01:06:08,039 --> 01:06:10,140 position would be how do we appreciate 1081 01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:11,880 the people that are here while also 1082 01:06:11,880 --> 01:06:14,460 still working forward to increasing our 1083 01:06:14,460 --> 01:06:18,109 application 1084 01:06:18,119 --> 01:06:21,180 so a couple things first of all 1085 01:06:21,180 --> 01:06:25,079 in regards to an employee applicant for 1086 01:06:25,079 --> 01:06:30,049 either the city or elsewhere 1087 01:06:30,059 --> 01:06:32,520 sure if they're equal we want to hire 1088 01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:35,339 the city best but we can't just say 1089 01:06:35,339 --> 01:06:36,720 we're going to hire the city president 1090 01:06:36,720 --> 01:06:40,460 regardless if someone is more 1091 01:06:40,460 --> 01:06:42,780 qualified then you hire that person 1092 01:06:42,780 --> 01:06:45,839 that's the point of this legislation so 1093 01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:49,440 to say that is just would be wrong and 1094 01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:51,000 then secondly 1095 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:51,720 um 1096 01:06:51,720 --> 01:06:54,720 doing this regardless isn't going to 1097 01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:57,180 solve the problem overnight quite 1098 01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:58,619 frankly it probably won't solve a 1099 01:06:58,619 --> 01:07:00,059 problem 1100 01:07:00,059 --> 01:07:03,000 um and I would recommend that if we're 1101 01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:04,859 going to do this it's not only just the 1102 01:07:04,859 --> 01:07:07,799 county but we open it up if you're truly 1103 01:07:07,799 --> 01:07:10,319 going to open up the applications and 1104 01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,240 you open them up you don't just open it 1105 01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:13,559 up for the account 1106 01:07:13,559 --> 01:07:16,680 and this way we can get application 1107 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:20,520 pools up and quite frankly like I said 1108 01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:21,839 still not going to solve this problem 1109 01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:24,900 get more applicants and maybe we'll take 1110 01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:27,119 a dent in the summer but this uh 1111 01:07:27,119 --> 01:07:29,579 honestly we really should do something 1112 01:07:29,579 --> 01:07:31,760 to 1113 01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:34,200 make a difference for those that are 1114 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:37,700 living in the city who are engaged who 1115 01:07:37,700 --> 01:07:41,460 are putting their skin in the game and 1116 01:07:41,460 --> 01:07:44,940 their money in the game and 1117 01:07:44,940 --> 01:07:47,420 I really truly 1118 01:07:47,420 --> 01:07:52,400 that's where I'm at so so it seems like 1119 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:55,140 there's really there is a there's seem 1120 01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:57,119 like there's an alignment of ideology 1121 01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,880 here that we think that clearly you know 1122 01:07:59,880 --> 01:08:01,559 I think we do this in other spaces right 1123 01:08:01,559 --> 01:08:04,079 we prioritize you know the people are 1124 01:08:04,079 --> 01:08:05,700 trying to purchase even you know safety 1125 01:08:05,700 --> 01:08:07,619 properties we want to prioritize people 1126 01:08:07,619 --> 01:08:09,180 who are going to live in the city 1127 01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:10,680 because we know there's just inherent 1128 01:08:10,680 --> 01:08:13,799 value that the you know uh you know 1129 01:08:13,799 --> 01:08:15,420 different levels of just long-term 1130 01:08:15,420 --> 01:08:16,679 investment and also neighborhood 1131 01:08:16,679 --> 01:08:18,540 stabilization as well so I think that 1132 01:08:18,540 --> 01:08:20,640 you know we would approach to approach 1133 01:08:20,640 --> 01:08:23,759 this with that same lens we do well 1134 01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:24,420 um 1135 01:08:24,420 --> 01:08:27,540 but I think to 1136 01:08:27,540 --> 01:08:29,880 there are other voices that you know 1137 01:08:29,880 --> 01:08:32,580 will need to be at the table as far as 1138 01:08:32,580 --> 01:08:34,020 we talk about um 1139 01:08:34,020 --> 01:08:36,600 you know uh the differential 1140 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,219 um of which you know I would say I 1141 01:08:38,219 --> 01:08:40,620 consider more like as an incentive to be 1142 01:08:40,620 --> 01:08:42,239 here and I think that that might even 1143 01:08:42,239 --> 01:08:44,100 include like Barbie demons at some point 1144 01:08:44,100 --> 01:08:45,779 I'm not really sure you know how that 1145 01:08:45,779 --> 01:08:47,219 works so I think that 1146 01:08:47,219 --> 01:08:49,199 right now we could kind of be meeting 1147 01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:52,319 the moment of responding to we got to 1148 01:08:52,319 --> 01:08:54,120 grow the African poor 1149 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,100 um but 1150 01:08:56,100 --> 01:08:58,679 strongly suggest we keep our eye on the 1151 01:08:58,679 --> 01:09:00,900 ball and how are we going to 1152 01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:03,179 give you kind of differential indoor 1153 01:09:03,179 --> 01:09:06,239 incentive for people 1154 01:09:06,239 --> 01:09:08,219 I suppose but I would say to your point 1155 01:09:08,219 --> 01:09:10,199 of expanding beyond the county limits I 1156 01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:11,699 think if we change 1157 01:09:11,699 --> 01:09:15,839 or incorporate too too high of a change 1158 01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:17,699 in policies or anything it's not as 1159 01:09:17,699 --> 01:09:20,159 measurable so although I agree that the 1160 01:09:20,159 --> 01:09:22,560 change isn't bound to happen overnight I 1161 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:23,880 think we're all realistic with that 1162 01:09:23,880 --> 01:09:25,560 understanding I think if we're not 1163 01:09:25,560 --> 01:09:28,380 measurable then we won't understand how 1164 01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:32,570 we adjust and move forward in the future 1165 01:09:32,580 --> 01:09:34,679 course it's measurable we know where our 1166 01:09:34,679 --> 01:09:36,839 employees live we'll know who's taking 1167 01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:39,480 jobs who's not we know who's at applying 1168 01:09:39,480 --> 01:09:41,400 who's not applying we'll be able to 1169 01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:44,100 track that that can easily put it be put 1170 01:09:44,100 --> 01:09:47,100 into a GIS system or a database to to 1171 01:09:47,100 --> 01:09:49,980 address that and to your point you're 1172 01:09:49,980 --> 01:09:53,279 absolutely right with the bargaining 1173 01:09:53,279 --> 01:09:56,940 units but if we don't put that into this 1174 01:09:56,940 --> 01:09:59,280 legislation that it's going to be 1175 01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:02,100 addressed then it typically won't be 1176 01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:04,440 addressed and that's why I'm saying it 1177 01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:06,900 should be in part of this I'm not saying 1178 01:10:06,900 --> 01:10:10,620 it's initial okay we're putting out the 1179 01:10:10,620 --> 01:10:13,320 job announcement you live let's get 1180 01:10:13,320 --> 01:10:16,800 there and you apply you get the job of 1181 01:10:16,800 --> 01:10:18,300 course right now we don't have that 1182 01:10:18,300 --> 01:10:21,480 ability to to renegotiate the contract 1183 01:10:21,480 --> 01:10:24,420 but at some point it needs to be so we 1184 01:10:24,420 --> 01:10:27,719 move forward with with the higher but I 1185 01:10:27,719 --> 01:10:30,540 would like to see it included in this 1186 01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:36,709 because otherwise it won't be 1187 01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:39,840 adults comics 1188 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:43,679 of course oh I'm sorry I'm sorry thank 1189 01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:44,480 you 1190 01:10:44,480 --> 01:10:47,460 so of course I am in favor of the 1191 01:10:47,460 --> 01:10:48,540 presidency 1192 01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:50,400 well that's in effect 1193 01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:52,860 um I think I I asked before if um you 1194 01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:54,360 know we could just do an overall raise 1195 01:10:54,360 --> 01:10:55,920 and I think that was done a couple of 1196 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,140 years ago it's not in the budget to a 1197 01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:01,080 given overall raise but again I think I 1198 01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,780 think because of what people put into a 1199 01:11:03,780 --> 01:11:05,840 community and how they want to live here 1200 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,940 and I don't want to see people already 1201 01:11:08,940 --> 01:11:11,480 employed here in the city looking to 1202 01:11:11,480 --> 01:11:14,400 engage themselves out elsewhere and live 1203 01:11:14,400 --> 01:11:17,219 and put into that community and 1204 01:11:17,219 --> 01:11:20,719 City that they before so again 1205 01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:24,179 I I would be in favor of a differential 1206 01:11:24,179 --> 01:11:27,060 if we could determine what we want but I 1207 01:11:27,060 --> 01:11:31,310 really am in favor of a residency for 1208 01:11:31,320 --> 01:11:33,780 we've been in effect since 1988 but I I 1209 01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:40,810 think it's been good for our city 1210 01:11:40,820 --> 01:11:43,560 all right is the council looking to do 1211 01:11:43,560 --> 01:11:48,120 this progressively or is a blanket to 1212 01:11:48,120 --> 01:11:50,640 take employees who say are in 1213 01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:53,640 non-compliance today in 1214 01:11:53,640 --> 01:11:56,699 waive their violation of any residency 1215 01:11:56,699 --> 01:11:58,860 requirement 1216 01:11:58,860 --> 01:12:01,440 the goal that I have is that we expand 1217 01:12:01,440 --> 01:12:04,860 it to the county and and we can then 1218 01:12:04,860 --> 01:12:06,719 take a look and see how I have to agree 1219 01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:08,159 with Mr Williams at how that's working 1220 01:12:08,159 --> 01:12:10,980 out and this is not something because I 1221 01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:13,080 you know I'm not here on every day but I 1222 01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:15,360 do listen to and talk to the employees 1223 01:12:15,360 --> 01:12:17,400 who are here every day and they are 1224 01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,199 saying that we are clearly understaffed 1225 01:12:19,199 --> 01:12:21,000 so although we're the decision makers 1226 01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,980 we're deciding with the staff and not 1227 01:12:22,980 --> 01:12:24,840 necessarily just for them so I think he 1228 01:12:24,840 --> 01:12:26,699 really has to listen to that voice and 1229 01:12:26,699 --> 01:12:28,500 we have we can see that you know that 1230 01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:30,360 there's these three additional stuff and 1231 01:12:30,360 --> 01:12:33,000 so my my answer to your question is that 1232 01:12:33,000 --> 01:12:35,280 we expand to the county at this point in 1233 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:38,219 time going progressively so people I 1234 01:12:38,219 --> 01:12:40,500 hired tomorrow 1235 01:12:40,500 --> 01:12:43,430 awesome 1236 01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,440 yes and are you are you asking me the 1237 01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,659 people who currently worked in the city 1238 01:12:48,659 --> 01:12:51,120 and and live outside the city or they 1239 01:12:51,120 --> 01:12:52,920 included in this 1240 01:12:52,920 --> 01:12:55,320 when I say are they grandfather then is 1241 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:56,940 that your question that's my question I 1242 01:12:56,940 --> 01:12:59,990 would say yes 1243 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:01,980 I don't see how we I personally don't 1244 01:13:01,980 --> 01:13:03,659 see how we exclude them when they've 1245 01:13:03,659 --> 01:13:06,300 been here doing the job 1246 01:13:06,300 --> 01:13:08,100 and you know where you currently live 1247 01:13:08,100 --> 01:13:12,420 outside the city I I don't see them by 1248 01:13:12,420 --> 01:13:14,880 inference I have direct knowledge and 1249 01:13:14,880 --> 01:13:18,080 take affirmative action 1250 01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:21,360 some people file 1251 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:23,760 what appears to be residency within the 1252 01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,209 city 1253 01:13:26,219 --> 01:13:28,560 creates really an awkward two-tiered 1254 01:13:28,560 --> 01:13:30,080 system 1255 01:13:30,080 --> 01:13:32,940 I will tell you I've been around a 1256 01:13:32,940 --> 01:13:36,000 number of years I joke but I've been in 1257 01:13:36,000 --> 01:13:38,880 my office I have never had anybody sit 1258 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,800 and chairs in my office say they're 1259 01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:46,850 overpaid or a department is overstaffed 1260 01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:49,560 the nature of what 1261 01:13:49,560 --> 01:13:50,900 we do 1262 01:13:50,900 --> 01:13:53,159 people are under pressure to perform 1263 01:13:53,159 --> 01:13:55,380 covid is strained 1264 01:13:55,380 --> 01:13:57,780 delivery of services 1265 01:13:57,780 --> 01:14:02,100 hiring not only within the city has been 1266 01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:04,320 difficult for 1267 01:14:04,320 --> 01:14:08,159 I'll say the last six months maybe a 1268 01:14:08,159 --> 01:14:10,320 little bit longer or clearly seem to 1269 01:14:10,320 --> 01:14:11,760 shift it 1270 01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,460 in terms of the available candidates and 1271 01:14:14,460 --> 01:14:17,940 candidates interviews some today 1272 01:14:17,940 --> 01:14:20,520 city is not a question but be here 1273 01:14:20,520 --> 01:14:23,460 understand what the law is today and 1274 01:14:23,460 --> 01:14:25,199 would be more than willing to comply 1275 01:14:25,199 --> 01:14:27,590 with 1276 01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:30,719 you yeah just a couple of questions with 1277 01:14:30,719 --> 01:14:32,340 regards to when we when we call into the 1278 01:14:32,340 --> 01:14:34,380 residency and the public hearing we 1279 01:14:34,380 --> 01:14:36,659 asked for it to be extended from the 1280 01:14:36,659 --> 01:14:39,239 county yes if we were to go beyond that 1281 01:14:39,239 --> 01:14:41,100 what we would we need another public 1282 01:14:41,100 --> 01:14:43,140 hearing 1283 01:14:43,140 --> 01:14:44,699 I would 1284 01:14:44,699 --> 01:14:48,189 yes 1285 01:14:48,199 --> 01:14:50,159 uh I would say that it would 1286 01:14:50,159 --> 01:14:51,780 substantially change the language that 1287 01:14:51,780 --> 01:14:54,300 was reviewed and it should be 1288 01:14:54,300 --> 01:14:56,640 entertained in another public hearing 1289 01:14:56,640 --> 01:14:59,159 and also a follow-up question in terms 1290 01:14:59,159 --> 01:15:00,659 of incentive I don't think we mentioned 1291 01:15:00,659 --> 01:15:03,300 incentive in the public hearing do we 1292 01:15:03,300 --> 01:15:05,580 need to add a it would be everywhere 1293 01:15:05,580 --> 01:15:07,640 till that it would be a new move forward 1294 01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:10,440 if you're proposing language to include 1295 01:15:10,440 --> 01:15:14,820 in the code then I would suggest that 1296 01:15:14,820 --> 01:15:16,560 you have another public hearing to 1297 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:18,360 include that because it is a substantial 1298 01:15:18,360 --> 01:15:21,590 change 1299 01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:23,100 so I think 1300 01:15:23,100 --> 01:15:25,739 what we're saying well first I have a 1301 01:15:25,739 --> 01:15:27,420 question Lisa maybe you're saying like 1302 01:15:27,420 --> 01:15:29,040 what we suggested that people would be 1303 01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:32,760 exact like I don't understand personally 1304 01:15:32,760 --> 01:15:34,500 what they would be acceptable from 1305 01:15:34,500 --> 01:15:36,600 because like they're hearing what I 1306 01:15:36,600 --> 01:15:38,580 don't understand what we're saying like 1307 01:15:38,580 --> 01:15:40,980 my question currently they create the 1308 01:15:40,980 --> 01:15:42,719 impression of the residence of the city 1309 01:15:42,719 --> 01:15:43,860 and 1310 01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:46,440 they love the ultimate 1311 01:15:46,440 --> 01:15:50,810 okay 1312 01:15:50,820 --> 01:15:53,520 I would I put you know I put this 1313 01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:54,780 forward we've been discussing for a 1314 01:15:54,780 --> 01:15:56,460 while I'd like to see us move forward as 1315 01:15:56,460 --> 01:15:58,199 is and if we need to discuss it further 1316 01:15:58,199 --> 01:16:00,300 and changing starving the public hearing 1317 01:16:00,300 --> 01:16:01,620 otherwise we're kicking this hand down 1318 01:16:01,620 --> 01:16:02,760 the road 1319 01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:06,000 and I think most of us agree anyway that 1320 01:16:06,000 --> 01:16:08,219 we need to increase our staff and we 1321 01:16:08,219 --> 01:16:10,320 have to figure out ways to do it and so 1322 01:16:10,320 --> 01:16:12,420 we could you know discuss discuss this 1323 01:16:12,420 --> 01:16:14,340 like for a month on end and not take any 1324 01:16:14,340 --> 01:16:17,520 action but we need to take action 1325 01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:18,900 and again I can come up with this just 1326 01:16:18,900 --> 01:16:20,719 because I thought of it but but because 1327 01:16:20,719 --> 01:16:24,360 staff is saying it and in addition to 1328 01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:26,100 that there are people 1329 01:16:26,100 --> 01:16:28,500 um that have applied but cannot work 1330 01:16:28,500 --> 01:16:30,900 here be just because they live outside 1331 01:16:30,900 --> 01:16:37,149 the city 1332 01:16:37,159 --> 01:16:39,000 that's okay 1333 01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:41,340 um I I would like to 1334 01:16:41,340 --> 01:16:44,280 um I think that I unless we do a strong 1335 01:16:44,280 --> 01:16:48,360 a straw kind of thing but I think 1336 01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:50,159 we need to have another public hearing 1337 01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:52,260 to talk about the differential and the 1338 01:16:52,260 --> 01:16:53,640 community 1339 01:16:53,640 --> 01:16:56,219 um that was the other piece 1340 01:16:56,219 --> 01:16:57,960 it's finally Beyond account expanding 1341 01:16:57,960 --> 01:16:59,219 behind beyond the county I think we 1342 01:16:59,219 --> 01:17:00,600 should have that public hearing facility 1343 01:17:00,600 --> 01:17:03,300 we said that tonight we would be able to 1344 01:17:03,300 --> 01:17:05,940 have that public Hearing in two weeks 1345 01:17:05,940 --> 01:17:10,990 scratch yeah 1346 01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,140 it would be well the collected 1347 01:17:13,140 --> 01:17:14,699 bargaining is a whole separate issue and 1348 01:17:14,699 --> 01:17:17,880 that can't even I mean no I mean we 1349 01:17:17,880 --> 01:17:19,380 can't I mean that would have to be 1350 01:17:19,380 --> 01:17:20,820 something that's outside of what we're 1351 01:17:20,820 --> 01:17:23,300 talking about here this evening 1352 01:17:23,300 --> 01:17:26,040 anyways however it's going to be part of 1353 01:17:26,040 --> 01:17:28,020 increasing and incentivizing that's not 1354 01:17:28,020 --> 01:17:29,820 something we can decide that has to be 1355 01:17:29,820 --> 01:17:31,440 part of the collective part of the need 1356 01:17:31,440 --> 01:17:33,480 so that's that's going to take them to 1357 01:17:33,480 --> 01:17:36,480 be an even longer process 1358 01:17:36,480 --> 01:17:37,920 because they agree with yourself they 1359 01:17:37,920 --> 01:17:40,140 said that's why the mayor sits with with 1360 01:17:40,140 --> 01:17:41,940 the different humans and they come up 1361 01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:43,500 with that so does the residence you 1362 01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:44,699 require an already part of those 1363 01:17:44,699 --> 01:17:45,800 negotiations 1364 01:17:45,800 --> 01:17:49,080 and I don't have any contracts that are 1365 01:17:49,080 --> 01:17:50,460 open 1366 01:17:50,460 --> 01:17:52,920 right now the police are coming up 1367 01:17:52,920 --> 01:17:54,900 uh 1368 01:17:54,900 --> 01:17:57,900 in management employees 1369 01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:59,640 compensation package solely with 1370 01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:01,320 discretion of the accounts so you could 1371 01:18:01,320 --> 01:18:03,620 incentivize your deed incentivize that 1372 01:18:03,620 --> 01:18:06,780 the collective bargaining process gives 1373 01:18:06,780 --> 01:18:08,580 broad discretion to the mayor's position 1374 01:18:08,580 --> 01:18:10,560 in terms of 1375 01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:13,790 course 1376 01:18:13,800 --> 01:18:15,540 conditions that we're looking for in the 1377 01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:17,159 contract we've always done that 1378 01:18:17,159 --> 01:18:20,100 consultation with the council but the 1379 01:18:20,100 --> 01:18:22,080 PBA will be the next 1380 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:23,100 unit 1381 01:18:23,100 --> 01:18:27,300 what's up and their contract 1382 01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:32,450 pretty much already deals with residency 1383 01:18:32,460 --> 01:18:35,520 to you know see that 1384 01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:36,719 it's not going to be a lot of 1385 01:18:36,719 --> 01:18:38,880 maneuvering in there nor would I 1386 01:18:38,880 --> 01:18:40,500 recommend spending a lot of time or 1387 01:18:40,500 --> 01:18:42,300 effort and trying to make major changes 1388 01:18:42,300 --> 01:18:45,300 out of it as we can put it forth 1389 01:18:45,300 --> 01:18:48,060 discussion either get some incremental 1390 01:18:48,060 --> 01:18:49,739 movement 1391 01:18:49,739 --> 01:18:50,760 a lot 1392 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:53,400 bigger issues than the public safety 1393 01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:57,719 than the residency 1394 01:18:57,719 --> 01:18:59,280 and as you said the police in the fire 1395 01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:01,260 this does not apply them anyway they are 1396 01:19:01,260 --> 01:19:04,679 required by state right so that doesn't 1397 01:19:04,679 --> 01:19:06,239 apply so it's just other employees so 1398 01:19:06,239 --> 01:19:09,480 again I'd like to see us move this along 1399 01:19:09,480 --> 01:19:11,699 and not continue to bring it back 1400 01:19:11,699 --> 01:19:13,500 because the discussions that we had in 1401 01:19:13,500 --> 01:19:15,420 tonight or discussions 1402 01:19:15,420 --> 01:19:16,860 that could have been brought up as we 1403 01:19:16,860 --> 01:19:18,120 were going through this but here we are 1404 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:25,209 now we're gonna um 1405 01:19:25,219 --> 01:19:27,600 can you give us a brief update on how 1406 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:30,780 many new applicants you have received in 1407 01:19:30,780 --> 01:19:32,640 your office or requirements on how many 1408 01:19:32,640 --> 01:19:36,060 new hires do they have to 1409 01:19:36,060 --> 01:19:39,659 check with HR tomorrow morning 1410 01:19:39,659 --> 01:19:42,780 I don't see the 1411 01:19:42,780 --> 01:19:47,450 uh issued unavailable 1412 01:19:47,460 --> 01:19:50,280 individuals continue we're starting to 1413 01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,020 see people who are interested in coming 1414 01:19:52,020 --> 01:19:55,030 back to work 1415 01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,300 applying and so we're going to look back 1416 01:19:57,300 --> 01:19:59,640 at this as a period of time when the 1417 01:19:59,640 --> 01:20:02,300 city had difficulty in hiring people and 1418 01:20:02,300 --> 01:20:05,460 so did other levels of government in 1419 01:20:05,460 --> 01:20:07,500 businesses as well yeah and that was the 1420 01:20:07,500 --> 01:20:08,340 reason why I asked the question when 1421 01:20:08,340 --> 01:20:10,199 getting started to pick up now and see 1422 01:20:10,199 --> 01:20:13,629 how I think 1423 01:20:13,639 --> 01:20:15,960 like to see how many vacant positions we 1424 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:17,699 have 1425 01:20:17,699 --> 01:20:19,920 because I know there's a number of them 1426 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,679 so first of all this was brought up when 1427 01:20:22,679 --> 01:20:24,860 this initial conversation started 1428 01:20:24,860 --> 01:20:27,420 secondly it was brought up for the last 1429 01:20:27,420 --> 01:20:30,000 two budget cycles and then have support 1430 01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,699 theory in those times and then with 1431 01:20:32,699 --> 01:20:34,679 regards the contracts know what won't 1432 01:20:34,679 --> 01:20:38,100 impact the police are fired but it can 1433 01:20:38,100 --> 01:20:40,800 impact the management and it can be part 1434 01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:42,780 of discussions with the other 1435 01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:46,020 requirement units if we pass saying that 1436 01:20:46,020 --> 01:20:48,179 we will have some sort of differential 1437 01:20:48,179 --> 01:20:51,000 or incentive for employees to live in 1438 01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:53,280 the city of course they'll bring that 1439 01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:56,600 part into the contract negotiations so 1440 01:20:56,600 --> 01:20:59,699 we can put that in now and when the 1441 01:20:59,699 --> 01:21:02,360 units come for uh 1442 01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,480 negotiation of course that'll be harder 1443 01:21:05,480 --> 01:21:07,980 we do that with vacations and other 1444 01:21:07,980 --> 01:21:10,380 things that we want so that would be an 1445 01:21:10,380 --> 01:21:14,990 obvious uh extension 1446 01:21:15,000 --> 01:21:17,120 and to add another 1447 01:21:17,120 --> 01:21:19,679 wrinkle here that 1448 01:21:19,679 --> 01:21:20,400 um 1449 01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:22,080 in terms of 1450 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,300 if we wanted to if we're trying to solve 1451 01:21:24,300 --> 01:21:26,820 what might be we will have numbers when 1452 01:21:26,820 --> 01:21:28,500 we see the new update updated chart 1453 01:21:28,500 --> 01:21:29,880 figures 1454 01:21:29,880 --> 01:21:30,900 um 1455 01:21:30,900 --> 01:21:33,600 we also could add in that this is a 1456 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,920 temporary solution to the hiring as well 1457 01:21:37,920 --> 01:21:42,239 that we put a time period on whether we 1458 01:21:42,239 --> 01:21:44,580 has the waiver of a residency 1459 01:21:44,580 --> 01:21:47,100 requirement for a certain amount of time 1460 01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:49,139 to solve some of the hiring issues that 1461 01:21:49,139 --> 01:21:52,500 we're currently facing which we know for 1462 01:21:52,500 --> 01:21:54,900 sure if we're facing once we see the 1463 01:21:54,900 --> 01:21:56,760 figures 1464 01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:58,980 and then go back and have the residency 1465 01:21:58,980 --> 01:22:01,260 requirement again so that would be in 1466 01:22:01,260 --> 01:22:02,760 other words that speaks a little bit to 1467 01:22:02,760 --> 01:22:07,189 the measuring issue as well because 1468 01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:09,420 I mean obviously we're going to know if 1469 01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:12,300 we if we expand it and we start to see a 1470 01:22:12,300 --> 01:22:13,980 flood of applications and that's your 1471 01:22:13,980 --> 01:22:15,320 measurement right 1472 01:22:15,320 --> 01:22:17,940 but at the same time there is that 1473 01:22:17,940 --> 01:22:19,800 little wrinkle as well if you wanted to 1474 01:22:19,800 --> 01:22:22,020 talk about that but we could make this a 1475 01:22:22,020 --> 01:22:22,940 temporary 1476 01:22:22,940 --> 01:22:24,500 Arrangement 1477 01:22:24,500 --> 01:22:29,820 so I I agree as far as like because I 1478 01:22:29,820 --> 01:22:31,620 don't think anyone and I could be wrong 1479 01:22:31,620 --> 01:22:33,659 probably anyone is like wants this is 1480 01:22:33,659 --> 01:22:35,699 something that you know we want to do 1481 01:22:35,699 --> 01:22:37,380 you know just to do it this is 1482 01:22:37,380 --> 01:22:41,219 definitely us responding to uh the labor 1483 01:22:41,219 --> 01:22:43,199 market and things that all 1484 01:22:43,199 --> 01:22:45,000 municipalities are facing right but most 1485 01:22:45,000 --> 01:22:46,520 of them are so it's like 1486 01:22:46,520 --> 01:22:51,840 I agree with it being temporary 1487 01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:54,420 um but I would say just temporary based 1488 01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:58,199 on us fulfilling the need and then us we 1489 01:22:58,199 --> 01:23:00,360 are saying okay now that need is met now 1490 01:23:00,360 --> 01:23:02,880 we can be responsive and 1491 01:23:02,880 --> 01:23:05,400 I just think that the time limit for 1492 01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:07,980 that that will kind of like you see what 1493 01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:09,060 I mean like that might be a vehicle for 1494 01:23:09,060 --> 01:23:10,199 me to be safe okay we're going to do 1495 01:23:10,199 --> 01:23:13,020 this for six months but at six months we 1496 01:23:13,020 --> 01:23:15,239 don't need that meet tomorrow so it's 1497 01:23:15,239 --> 01:23:17,100 like we do this 1498 01:23:17,100 --> 01:23:18,780 um and I think we do this progressively 1499 01:23:18,780 --> 01:23:21,840 I think we you know uh to your point 1500 01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:24,239 kind of like meet the moment of of the 1501 01:23:24,239 --> 01:23:27,480 need of the city right now and then we 1502 01:23:27,480 --> 01:23:29,159 um 1503 01:23:29,159 --> 01:23:30,600 incorporate some measurements and then 1504 01:23:30,600 --> 01:23:32,219 we just recommend and be responsive and 1505 01:23:32,219 --> 01:23:33,960 say hey maybe we can right now we're 1506 01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,020 fully staffed and we could uh 1507 01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:42,830 reiterate The Residency requirement 1508 01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:46,739 I'd like to see a public hearing for 1509 01:23:46,739 --> 01:23:49,020 moving The Residency requirement at all 1510 01:23:49,020 --> 01:23:51,900 not just the county and then with the 1511 01:23:51,900 --> 01:23:54,540 independent program is a student program 1512 01:23:54,540 --> 01:24:04,010 is referring to 1513 01:24:04,020 --> 01:24:05,699 questions and comments but we're not 1514 01:24:05,699 --> 01:24:08,280 putting this on take the reminder so we 1515 01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:14,510 get to vote on Monday 1516 01:24:14,520 --> 01:24:16,920 are we moving this icon 1517 01:24:16,920 --> 01:24:19,320 this evening as for 1518 01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,060 public hearing 1519 01:24:21,060 --> 01:24:22,500 whoa 1520 01:24:22,500 --> 01:24:24,300 this is just a reminder right so we're 1521 01:24:24,300 --> 01:24:26,400 working this is a reminder yeah so we 1522 01:24:26,400 --> 01:24:33,250 have the public hearings 1523 01:24:33,260 --> 01:24:36,179 so so then so we'll so we'll be moving 1524 01:24:36,179 --> 01:24:38,460 it as um so then we need to be something 1525 01:24:38,460 --> 01:24:41,580 as as is as this answer now and then 1526 01:24:41,580 --> 01:24:44,840 what do you think okay 1527 01:24:44,840 --> 01:24:48,260 or you could do the other public hearing 1528 01:24:48,260 --> 01:24:51,480 if this doesn't pass out a committee 1529 01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:54,659 so you have options yeah yeah so right 1530 01:24:54,659 --> 01:24:56,400 so what it sort of seems like to me is 1531 01:24:56,400 --> 01:24:57,960 what we're saying that we're going to 1532 01:24:57,960 --> 01:25:01,560 what I think we do is we move it out 1533 01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,600 with the understanding that we need to 1534 01:25:03,600 --> 01:25:08,760 be uh looking to find ways that we that are actually 1535 01:25:08,760 --> 01:25:11,699 doable to incentivize people that work 1536 01:25:11,699 --> 01:25:13,800 in living in the city so with that said 1537 01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,120 I'll entertain emotion for this 1538 01:25:18,120 --> 01:25:19,020 um 1539 01:25:19,020 --> 01:25:21,500 please 1540 01:25:21,500 --> 01:25:24,360 so before before you do that with with 1541 01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:26,159 another public hearing I mean Mr 1542 01:25:26,159 --> 01:25:28,020 Williams yourself Miss Patrick this 1543 01:25:28,020 --> 01:25:28,760 morning 1544 01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:31,139 have all spoke that they would like 1545 01:25:31,139 --> 01:25:33,360 another well to the fact of different 1546 01:25:33,360 --> 01:25:37,080 things need to be put into that so we 1547 01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:40,199 need to entertain that with 1548 01:25:40,199 --> 01:25:43,800 um incentive and opening it up to 1549 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,679 though though I agree 100 I also know 1550 01:25:46,679 --> 01:25:49,080 that when we're talking about we're 1551 01:25:49,080 --> 01:25:52,199 talking about an incentive there are 1552 01:25:52,199 --> 01:25:53,580 there variables that are going to go 1553 01:25:53,580 --> 01:25:55,920 into that that I don't I feel 1554 01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:57,360 comfortable saying like oh this is what 1555 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,280 we can do right now so what I'm so what 1556 01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,739 I'm suggesting is we move to meet the 1557 01:26:01,739 --> 01:26:04,380 moment open up the uh the pool so we 1558 01:26:04,380 --> 01:26:06,000 cast a wider neck to get more qualified 1559 01:26:06,000 --> 01:26:08,340 employees with the understanding that 1560 01:26:08,340 --> 01:26:10,260 we're going to um look for ways to 1561 01:26:10,260 --> 01:26:12,420 incentivize people that live in the city 1562 01:26:12,420 --> 01:26:15,840 because again that's something I agree 1563 01:26:15,840 --> 01:26:17,820 when you're just talking a matter of 1564 01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:20,520 weeks to have another Target here I mean 1565 01:26:20,520 --> 01:26:21,840 it's not like it's going to change 1566 01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:23,820 anything like that 1567 01:26:23,820 --> 01:26:26,280 um I still think you know let's have the 1568 01:26:26,280 --> 01:26:28,980 public hearing with opening it up and 1569 01:26:28,980 --> 01:26:30,300 being sent 1570 01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:33,659 and granted you're correct with regards 1571 01:26:33,659 --> 01:26:35,159 to the incentive but that could be 1572 01:26:35,159 --> 01:26:37,260 written in such a way that it would 1573 01:26:37,260 --> 01:26:39,960 address it so we could hire like I said 1574 01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:42,600 if you're from scare you take the job we 1575 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,340 could hire you there wouldn't be a 1576 01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:46,440 differential at this point but we could 1577 01:26:46,440 --> 01:26:50,870 figure that piece out as we go along 1578 01:26:50,880 --> 01:26:52,679 um I'd like to again keep this with the 1579 01:26:52,679 --> 01:26:54,360 county and not move it beyond that and 1580 01:26:54,360 --> 01:26:56,340 if we want to include language to say we 1581 01:26:56,340 --> 01:26:57,719 will incentivize when those contracts 1582 01:26:57,719 --> 01:26:59,460 come out I'm certainly open to that but 1583 01:26:59,460 --> 01:27:00,960 I don't I think that we should be going 1584 01:27:00,960 --> 01:27:02,340 Beyond accounting point at this point 1585 01:27:02,340 --> 01:27:04,139 thinking we should you know stay there 1586 01:27:04,139 --> 01:27:06,659 and you know I'm open to like I said 1587 01:27:06,659 --> 01:27:08,400 including incentivizing them when you 1588 01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:10,380 get to that point we have to take a look 1589 01:27:10,380 --> 01:27:12,840 at that and just to clarify what I said 1590 01:27:12,840 --> 01:27:14,699 was if it's two applicants who are 1591 01:27:14,699 --> 01:27:17,280 equally qualified then really chose the 1592 01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:20,460 city at camp so I again would like to 1593 01:27:20,460 --> 01:27:23,580 move it out of committee with the um and 1594 01:27:23,580 --> 01:27:25,020 I will influence the language that said 1595 01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:26,699 we look incentivize when you know who 1596 01:27:26,699 --> 01:27:28,139 we've had that is something we could do 1597 01:27:28,139 --> 01:27:29,820 when you came to 1598 01:27:29,820 --> 01:27:30,420 um 1599 01:27:30,420 --> 01:27:32,100 looking at the bargaining units again 1600 01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:34,260 but to move it out and stay within the 1601 01:27:34,260 --> 01:27:36,239 county so we're saying so I agree so 1602 01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:37,679 we're saying to move it out but we're 1603 01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:39,840 including the language that 1604 01:27:39,840 --> 01:27:42,719 um we'll be looking to uh incentivize 1605 01:27:42,719 --> 01:27:44,639 people that live in the city I thought 1606 01:27:44,639 --> 01:27:45,960 that two 1607 01:27:45,960 --> 01:27:48,360 well I'm sorry cam direct legislation 1608 01:27:48,360 --> 01:27:51,900 what you're going to do is gonna I'm not 1609 01:27:51,900 --> 01:27:53,400 happy with it you're going to get it 1610 01:27:53,400 --> 01:27:55,020 back in two weeks 1611 01:27:55,020 --> 01:27:56,340 start again 1612 01:27:56,340 --> 01:27:58,139 if I'm not happy with it you're gonna 1613 01:27:58,139 --> 01:27:59,940 get it back in two weeks 1614 01:27:59,940 --> 01:28:02,100 so the draft legislation is what came 1615 01:28:02,100 --> 01:28:03,960 out to the public hearing and what needs 1616 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:06,060 to be added is what Mr power means about 1617 01:28:06,060 --> 01:28:07,440 father so we could see that before 1618 01:28:07,440 --> 01:28:11,030 Monday 1619 01:28:11,040 --> 01:28:13,560 I think that what I've heard Mr Colton 1620 01:28:13,560 --> 01:28:15,300 say was that we have to have a public 1621 01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:17,659 hearing if we are going to 1622 01:28:17,659 --> 01:28:20,880 change what was the public hearing that 1623 01:28:20,880 --> 01:28:23,040 we had a couple of weeks of 1624 01:28:23,040 --> 01:28:25,739 last week that we would have to have 1625 01:28:25,739 --> 01:28:28,020 another public Hearing in order to put 1626 01:28:28,020 --> 01:28:30,659 the language in above 1627 01:28:30,659 --> 01:28:33,420 any kind of um incentive slash 1628 01:28:33,420 --> 01:28:35,460 differential whatever 1629 01:28:35,460 --> 01:28:37,860 would it be 1630 01:28:37,860 --> 01:28:41,940 so I think that's what the holdup is is 1631 01:28:41,940 --> 01:28:44,460 it's all completion yeah that's correct 1632 01:28:44,460 --> 01:28:47,580 um if we're changing the language to 1633 01:28:47,580 --> 01:28:51,120 substantially which is I would say you 1634 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,760 know extending you know beyond 1635 01:28:53,760 --> 01:28:56,100 Schenectady County and even putting 1636 01:28:56,100 --> 01:28:57,800 language in related to 1637 01:28:57,800 --> 01:29:00,480 incentivizing you know uh residency in 1638 01:29:00,480 --> 01:29:01,860 the city of Schenectady that would be 1639 01:29:01,860 --> 01:29:04,920 you know even separately let alone 1640 01:29:04,920 --> 01:29:07,020 together oh that's a significant change 1641 01:29:07,020 --> 01:29:08,580 that would require a public hearing 1642 01:29:08,580 --> 01:29:09,980 because 1643 01:29:09,980 --> 01:29:12,000 essentially people have not had an 1644 01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,620 opportunity to speak on this that 1645 01:29:13,620 --> 01:29:15,840 proposed change 1646 01:29:15,840 --> 01:29:17,880 in that case I would I would like to 1647 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,159 continue motions movie as it came on the 1648 01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:26,870 public hearing 1649 01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:29,580 the way to do this progressively too 1650 01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:32,580 right like we can do this as we go right 1651 01:29:32,580 --> 01:29:35,940 like that's that's what I'm here yeah so 1652 01:29:35,940 --> 01:29:39,480 then we don't lose anything by moving it 1653 01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:43,760 out as it is now and then 1654 01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:46,620 adjusting the changes which I 1655 01:29:46,620 --> 01:29:47,880 um support 1656 01:29:47,880 --> 01:29:48,780 um 1657 01:29:48,780 --> 01:29:51,600 as far as incentives right so we can 1658 01:29:51,600 --> 01:29:52,940 still do that so we're not going to 1659 01:29:52,940 --> 01:29:54,800 necessarily 1660 01:29:54,800 --> 01:29:57,480 the only issue with that and you're 1661 01:29:57,480 --> 01:30:00,900 correct you can absolutely do that 1662 01:30:00,900 --> 01:30:04,320 here now let's say passing something it 1663 01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,139 goes through HR employees are applying 1664 01:30:07,139 --> 01:30:09,540 on it this way let's assumed for sake of 1665 01:30:09,540 --> 01:30:12,239 argument the other stuff passes two 1666 01:30:12,239 --> 01:30:14,400 three four weeks later it all changes 1667 01:30:14,400 --> 01:30:16,860 again it kind of doesn't make sense to 1668 01:30:16,860 --> 01:30:19,620 do that to HR to applicants and so forth 1669 01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:22,139 why not just wait for two weeks whatever 1670 01:30:22,139 --> 01:30:25,139 it is get the public hearing done can be 1671 01:30:25,139 --> 01:30:27,000 done with it once and for all so that 1672 01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,639 applicants aren't confused HR isn't 1673 01:30:29,639 --> 01:30:33,060 confused everybody's not confused or I 1674 01:30:33,060 --> 01:30:35,159 would say answer that one because we've 1675 01:30:35,159 --> 01:30:37,500 already done a public hearing on this as 1676 01:30:37,500 --> 01:30:39,600 it is right so correct so being that 1677 01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,100 we've already done that we're at the 1678 01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,020 point now again where this isn't taking 1679 01:30:43,020 --> 01:30:44,340 away from 1680 01:30:44,340 --> 01:30:46,620 um further changes um 1681 01:30:46,620 --> 01:30:48,300 what we're saying is that we're right 1682 01:30:48,300 --> 01:30:50,280 now we've done that process so we can at 1683 01:30:50,280 --> 01:30:52,199 least get this part out the way and 1684 01:30:52,199 --> 01:30:55,320 bring people in um and Cast Away 1685 01:30:55,320 --> 01:30:57,600 so when when you're having applications 1686 01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:58,639 though 1687 01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:01,500 you're saying you first you put out the 1688 01:31:01,500 --> 01:31:03,360 job announcement you got to live in the 1689 01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:05,400 city now we're changing you got to live 1690 01:31:05,400 --> 01:31:07,560 in the county and then if we decide to 1691 01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:10,320 change it you can live wherever and I 1692 01:31:10,320 --> 01:31:11,760 mean within a small period of time 1693 01:31:11,760 --> 01:31:14,219 you're changing all the rules right 1694 01:31:14,219 --> 01:31:16,139 that's all I'm saying look you're making 1695 01:31:16,139 --> 01:31:20,280 it very complex by doing that you know I I can appreciate that but I 1696 01:31:20,280 --> 01:31:22,320 think that what I'm hearing is that as 1697 01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:24,060 we if we if we're doing this and 1698 01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:26,280 progressively we're not saying in a 1699 01:31:26,280 --> 01:31:28,380 couple of weeks we're going to say let's 1700 01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:30,120 open it all the way up we're saying like 1701 01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,040 let's open it up to the county cast a 1702 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,560 wider net then have some time to see if 1703 01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,960 that meant the need and then if it 1704 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:38,280 hasn't been to need them and consider 1705 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,159 her now we have to open it up you know a 1706 01:31:41,159 --> 01:31:42,540 lot 1707 01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:45,120 I'm sorry Mr Williams and the medicine 1708 01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:46,320 is going to say is just playing 1709 01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:48,300 sometimes that's why you read the whole 1710 01:31:48,300 --> 01:31:50,460 job application so I mean it'd be 1711 01:31:50,460 --> 01:31:52,800 different if we were hiring a bunch of 1712 01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,659 kindergarteners if I could just put it 1713 01:31:54,659 --> 01:31:56,460 lightly but I think everyone that 1714 01:31:56,460 --> 01:31:58,320 applies for these jobs are competent 1715 01:31:58,320 --> 01:31:59,820 enough if they have any questions they 1716 01:31:59,820 --> 01:32:01,980 can always contact the HR office that's 1717 01:32:01,980 --> 01:32:03,739 submitted on the bottom of every job 1718 01:32:03,739 --> 01:32:06,900 application I'm not saying that it is 1719 01:32:06,900 --> 01:32:07,980 not going to cause some potential 1720 01:32:07,980 --> 01:32:10,080 discomfort but I think with the 1721 01:32:10,080 --> 01:32:12,000 narrative consistently being that our 1722 01:32:12,000 --> 01:32:13,739 council is slow to act I think we have 1723 01:32:13,739 --> 01:32:16,800 made substantial steps as Mr Coleman has 1724 01:32:16,800 --> 01:32:18,540 highlighted to put any more changes 1725 01:32:18,540 --> 01:32:22,020 prolong this topic Mr Farley is plainly 1726 01:32:22,020 --> 01:32:24,840 outlined that we can accomplish both as 1727 01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:27,360 so magically captures every council 1728 01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:28,980 meeting because all things can be 1729 01:32:28,980 --> 01:32:30,860 correct tell me more 1730 01:32:30,860 --> 01:32:33,540 so I think we push forth what we've 1731 01:32:33,540 --> 01:32:35,340 already had and heard from from the 1732 01:32:35,340 --> 01:32:39,900 community and this conversation is a continued to get all the 1733 01:32:39,900 --> 01:32:42,420 information I appreciate Vanessa Patrick 1734 01:32:42,420 --> 01:32:44,460 highlighting that and Mr Farley that 1735 01:32:44,460 --> 01:32:46,920 they were not on board at first and I 1736 01:32:46,920 --> 01:32:49,820 I'm open to hearing more details about 1737 01:32:49,820 --> 01:32:52,139 adding in differentials but at this 1738 01:32:52,139 --> 01:32:54,120 point the city has made it abundantly 1739 01:32:54,120 --> 01:32:56,639 clear that they need help let's give 1740 01:32:56,639 --> 01:32:57,840 them the help and let's continue this 1741 01:32:57,840 --> 01:33:01,669 conversation 1742 01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:03,239 um so again with 1743 01:33:03,239 --> 01:33:05,639 um the differential incentive 1744 01:33:05,639 --> 01:33:08,280 so there may be employees even in this 1745 01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:10,260 room going something like 1746 01:33:10,260 --> 01:33:11,699 since I live here I'm going to get more 1747 01:33:11,699 --> 01:33:15,000 money right right 1748 01:33:15,000 --> 01:33:18,199 um so like just let me saying 1749 01:33:18,199 --> 01:33:21,900 just like you say by how confusing it 1750 01:33:21,900 --> 01:33:24,000 may be to 1751 01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:26,280 employees listening right now who live 1752 01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:28,620 in the city and all of a sudden we pass 1753 01:33:28,620 --> 01:33:30,840 this 1754 01:33:30,840 --> 01:33:33,060 there may be an incentive down the road 1755 01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:34,860 is there going to be an incentive down 1756 01:33:34,860 --> 01:33:38,100 the road what's my incentive going to be 1757 01:33:38,100 --> 01:33:41,100 um so by are these new hires going to 1758 01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:42,960 get an incentive and we're not going to 1759 01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:46,910 should I say that we have 1760 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:49,679 not take this process that's myself I I 1761 01:33:49,679 --> 01:33:52,139 to actually to your point I think that 1762 01:33:52,139 --> 01:33:57,060 you are kind of aligning with uh what Mr 1763 01:33:57,060 --> 01:33:58,260 Williams is just saying because it's 1764 01:33:58,260 --> 01:34:00,300 like because that came there can be some 1765 01:34:00,300 --> 01:34:04,020 confusion there so so we uh so we do 1766 01:34:04,020 --> 01:34:06,420 this um progressively and say this right 1767 01:34:06,420 --> 01:34:10,139 here is the the wrong way to taxes but 1768 01:34:10,139 --> 01:34:12,239 we're dealing with right now and then 1769 01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:14,159 that part as far as incentives where I 1770 01:34:14,159 --> 01:34:16,320 think we all I think most people seem to 1771 01:34:16,320 --> 01:34:18,179 agree is necessary then we cross that 1772 01:34:18,179 --> 01:34:19,679 bridge when we get to it that's what I 1773 01:34:19,679 --> 01:34:20,460 mean 1774 01:34:20,460 --> 01:34:22,679 so with that said I'm going to entertain 1775 01:34:22,679 --> 01:34:25,159 emotions 1776 01:34:25,159 --> 01:34:29,460 I mean if you if we pass this as this 1777 01:34:29,460 --> 01:34:31,560 right an employee moves out of the state 1778 01:34:31,560 --> 01:34:33,840 Who currently lives in the city 1779 01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,900 that's well within their prerogative now 1780 01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:40,619 and then if we decide to have some sort 1781 01:34:40,619 --> 01:34:42,179 of progressive path 1782 01:34:42,179 --> 01:34:44,639 process like you're talking about well 1783 01:34:44,639 --> 01:34:46,080 if you live in the city you're going to 1784 01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:47,520 get 1785 01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,880 kind of like a yo-yo type thing and I 1786 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:53,760 believe we want this to move and speak 1787 01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:56,699 for itself it seems there's support for 1788 01:34:56,699 --> 01:34:59,040 public a new public hearing 1789 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,800 so if there's a support for a new public 1790 01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:03,780 hearing why were we just waiting two 1791 01:35:03,780 --> 01:35:06,480 weeks and do the new public hearing I 1792 01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:10,080 I'm not I'm all for a new public hearing 1793 01:35:10,080 --> 01:35:12,600 I personally think that we need to have 1794 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,300 a new public hearing on on the issue 1795 01:35:15,300 --> 01:35:17,040 that we're talking about as far as the 1796 01:35:17,040 --> 01:35:19,199 incentive incentivizing things because 1797 01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:20,880 we didn't bring that to the public we 1798 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:23,040 didn't get the feedback but at this bus 1799 01:35:23,040 --> 01:35:25,199 before we're at now we did do the public 1800 01:35:25,199 --> 01:35:27,179 hearing we did lose some feedback and we 1801 01:35:27,179 --> 01:35:28,679 all well most of us seem to be in 1802 01:35:28,679 --> 01:35:32,219 agreements of of expanding casting a 1803 01:35:32,219 --> 01:35:35,219 wider net to attract some more Talent so 1804 01:35:35,219 --> 01:35:37,260 let's not let the group be the enemy of 1805 01:35:37,260 --> 01:35:39,179 the great let's move on what we can move 1806 01:35:39,179 --> 01:35:42,239 and and and 1807 01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:44,460 a hundred percent agree let's open up 1808 01:35:44,460 --> 01:35:46,619 public hearing Mr Moon yeah I was just 1809 01:35:46,619 --> 01:35:48,420 asking a question because I I know the 1810 01:35:48,420 --> 01:35:52,669 fact that if you were to add any items 1811 01:35:52,679 --> 01:35:55,500 like this was a significant changes 1812 01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:57,840 cosmetic only mentioned we will need 1813 01:35:57,840 --> 01:35:59,340 another public I was just asking the 1814 01:35:59,340 --> 01:36:01,500 question yeah in terms of that trolling 1815 01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:05,450 out there that this is needed 1816 01:36:05,460 --> 01:36:08,990 support 1817 01:36:09,000 --> 01:36:10,800 so I didn't want to just follow up on 1818 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:12,480 that Mr Miller Baron so would you be 1819 01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:15,179 supportive of the incentives and on 1820 01:36:15,179 --> 01:36:17,100 expanding the reach beyond the county I 1821 01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:19,020 support incense and what I think we call 1822 01:36:19,020 --> 01:36:21,360 for public hearing and we set out the 1823 01:36:21,360 --> 01:36:23,940 draft agenda 1824 01:36:23,940 --> 01:36:25,619 we could have discussed this a little 1825 01:36:25,619 --> 01:36:27,360 bit more to add those things at that 1826 01:36:27,360 --> 01:36:29,760 point in time but we didn't as a council 1827 01:36:29,760 --> 01:36:31,679 I'm not letting anybody we all should 1828 01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:33,659 have done that and to put that in there 1829 01:36:33,659 --> 01:36:35,580 so we're kind of like okay this is what 1830 01:36:35,580 --> 01:36:39,669 we did the draft let's revise it unless 1831 01:36:39,679 --> 01:36:42,679 but now we're asking that question 1832 01:36:42,679 --> 01:36:44,639 I 1833 01:36:44,639 --> 01:36:46,800 think we should move forward as far he 1834 01:36:46,800 --> 01:36:50,100 says and you know look at the incentive 1835 01:36:50,100 --> 01:36:52,380 but then it comes to the incentives Maya 1836 01:36:52,380 --> 01:36:53,699 does that as we part of the marketing 1837 01:36:53,699 --> 01:36:55,860 unit that you have to personally uh 1838 01:36:55,860 --> 01:36:58,860 think machine with contracts 1839 01:36:58,860 --> 01:37:01,679 my assumption 1840 01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:04,920 is a reflective artery you have to be 1841 01:37:04,920 --> 01:37:07,380 done through a contract could the 1842 01:37:07,380 --> 01:37:09,960 council enact the local law or an 1843 01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:12,800 incentive structure that did not affect 1844 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,860 any employee now but took effect at some 1845 01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:18,659 point in the future 1846 01:37:18,659 --> 01:37:22,159 that might be the council's product 1847 01:37:22,159 --> 01:37:25,199 again we have to do some research on 1848 01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:27,420 that to 1849 01:37:27,420 --> 01:37:29,219 I'm not something we can look at in 1850 01:37:29,219 --> 01:37:30,420 terms of I think there is a product 1851 01:37:30,420 --> 01:37:32,280 consensus here in terms of insensitive 1852 01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:33,540 and I don't think any one of us are 1853 01:37:33,540 --> 01:37:35,400 against that so I think we should look 1854 01:37:35,400 --> 01:37:37,199 at that and work at um you know McCarthy 1855 01:37:37,199 --> 01:37:39,360 in terms of where do we arrive or that 1856 01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,400 we just moved out as a resolution of 1857 01:37:41,400 --> 01:37:44,460 public hearing that allowed Amir to 1858 01:37:44,460 --> 01:37:47,580 negotiate with contracts to add that in 1859 01:37:47,580 --> 01:37:50,280 or we just do a standalone resolution 1860 01:37:50,280 --> 01:37:53,820 applied inside of across the world 1861 01:37:53,820 --> 01:37:55,500 so I'm looking to move what we have 1862 01:37:55,500 --> 01:37:56,520 right now 1863 01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:58,500 and then continue to look at these 1864 01:37:58,500 --> 01:38:01,920 things and it's very important for us 1865 01:38:01,920 --> 01:38:05,930 a few seconds 1866 01:38:05,940 --> 01:38:08,239 so I will 1867 01:38:08,239 --> 01:38:14,649 entertain motion to move as is 1868 01:38:14,659 --> 01:38:16,619 you jump in the front stealing my 1869 01:38:16,619 --> 01:38:18,679 thunder here okay 1870 01:38:18,679 --> 01:38:23,530 all included in the packet today 1871 01:38:23,540 --> 01:38:27,360 it's provided it was a provided and at 1872 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:29,780 the um for the public area 1873 01:38:29,780 --> 01:38:33,960 yes yes right so we're moving I was 1874 01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:37,020 presented in public here right yes 1875 01:38:37,020 --> 01:38:38,100 so 1876 01:38:38,100 --> 01:38:42,199 I'm in all the papers all right 1877 01:38:42,199 --> 01:38:45,000 this time I'd like to call to about an 1878 01:38:45,000 --> 01:38:48,659 emergency John second all the favor all 1879 01:38:48,659 --> 01:38:50,100 right 1880 01:38:50,100 --> 01:38:51,960 I would like to call to order Finance on 1881 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,639 the first items the bond audience for 1882 01:38:53,639 --> 01:38:56,400 construction of water wells based to 1883 01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,020 Mississippi 1884 01:38:58,020 --> 01:39:03,450 yes 1885 01:39:03,460 --> 01:39:08,709 [Music] 1886 01:39:08,719 --> 01:39:11,280 what we're requesting here is phase two 1887 01:39:11,280 --> 01:39:13,320 of the water wells construction of the 1888 01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,920 water wells uh back in 1889 01:39:15,920 --> 01:39:19,800 2021 in November we passed a an original 1890 01:39:19,800 --> 01:39:21,239 uh 1891 01:39:21,239 --> 01:39:24,360 combine for 7.7 million and that was 1892 01:39:24,360 --> 01:39:26,760 actually for the construction of the 1893 01:39:26,760 --> 01:39:28,739 wells themselves the construction of the 1894 01:39:28,739 --> 01:39:31,139 casings where we're asking for uh here 1895 01:39:31,139 --> 01:39:33,179 is now the phase two of the project 1896 01:39:33,179 --> 01:39:37,340 which includes uh uh the housing 1897 01:39:37,340 --> 01:39:40,619 existing pipes uh chlorine systems and 1898 01:39:40,619 --> 01:39:43,920 uh skating units one of the reasons why 1899 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,619 we did this in two phases is by doing 1900 01:39:46,619 --> 01:39:48,600 the two phases we're eligible for two 1901 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:51,179 blocks of Grants uh three million three 1902 01:39:51,179 --> 01:39:53,179 million so it will help us 1903 01:39:53,179 --> 01:39:55,800 what our total project costs around 12 1904 01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:57,960 to 13 million we're hoping to get 6 1905 01:39:57,960 --> 01:39:59,820 million in Grants so that's why we did a 1906 01:39:59,820 --> 01:40:01,580 phase one and phase two 1907 01:40:01,580 --> 01:40:03,960 phase one portion 1908 01:40:03,960 --> 01:40:06,540 um I think we've just received notice I 1909 01:40:06,540 --> 01:40:08,040 think we got the three million we're 1910 01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:10,080 just waiting for the paperwork uh this 1911 01:40:10,080 --> 01:40:13,619 will as as we uh if you pass this uh 1912 01:40:13,619 --> 01:40:16,199 ordinance this is gives us the ordinance 1913 01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:19,860 to uh fulfill the requirement to apply 1914 01:40:19,860 --> 01:40:22,860 for the US second grant for three 1915 01:40:22,860 --> 01:40:25,139 million also 1916 01:40:25,139 --> 01:40:28,609 questions 1917 01:40:28,619 --> 01:40:30,320 injury 1918 01:40:30,320 --> 01:40:32,880 if I can just add a little bit to what 1919 01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:34,219 Anthony said 1920 01:40:34,219 --> 01:40:36,659 previously the city council also 1921 01:40:36,659 --> 01:40:38,580 declared a self-leading agency in the 1922 01:40:38,580 --> 01:40:40,920 secret process there was a neck deck 1923 01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,560 that was issued accordingly we don't 1924 01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:44,699 have to go through the secret process 1925 01:40:44,699 --> 01:40:48,179 again because when the council did it at 1926 01:40:48,179 --> 01:40:49,980 that point in time it covered the entire 1927 01:40:49,980 --> 01:40:52,080 project so we don't have to do it again 1928 01:40:52,080 --> 01:40:54,060 there's no expansion of the project 1929 01:40:54,060 --> 01:40:55,860 that's still working within the bounds 1930 01:40:55,860 --> 01:40:59,340 of the last secret process 1931 01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:01,380 so you suggest phase one and this is 1932 01:41:01,380 --> 01:41:03,540 phase two 1933 01:41:03,540 --> 01:41:05,820 go ahead please yeah 1934 01:41:05,820 --> 01:41:08,400 um apparently looking to leverage this 1935 01:41:08,400 --> 01:41:11,580 with the grants and using whatever's 1936 01:41:11,580 --> 01:41:14,400 left over out of the Arca funds that way 1937 01:41:14,400 --> 01:41:17,219 we don't have to fund it yes we did not 1938 01:41:17,219 --> 01:41:19,080 buy that any money as of yet and what 1939 01:41:19,080 --> 01:41:21,480 we're doing all this is to apply and get 1940 01:41:21,480 --> 01:41:23,460 as much a grant and infrastructure and 1941 01:41:23,460 --> 01:41:25,440 grants that we can but this is one of 1942 01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:28,260 the rules uh that the uh the government 1943 01:41:28,260 --> 01:41:30,540 and these agencies want is to be able to 1944 01:41:30,540 --> 01:41:33,239 have a police if you didn't get any 1945 01:41:33,239 --> 01:41:35,639 grant money right 1946 01:41:35,639 --> 01:41:37,920 you have to have the ability to pay the 1947 01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,659 contractors to do less work so we're 1948 01:41:39,659 --> 01:41:41,940 lining up the lending for this work at 1949 01:41:41,940 --> 01:41:43,280 the same time 1950 01:41:43,280 --> 01:41:45,960 applying for Grants or other incentives 1951 01:41:45,960 --> 01:41:48,179 to offset the cost so as Mr Ferrari has 1952 01:41:48,179 --> 01:41:50,040 pointed out we thought we were going to 1953 01:41:50,040 --> 01:41:51,600 have bigger expense up front so far 1954 01:41:51,600 --> 01:41:54,600 we've had none but we have to say that 1955 01:41:54,600 --> 01:41:57,540 the city is willing if 20 doesn't come 1956 01:41:57,540 --> 01:42:01,880 forward to be able to pay for again 1957 01:42:01,880 --> 01:42:04,460 these new wells 1958 01:42:04,460 --> 01:42:07,139 the ones that are just at the end of 1959 01:42:07,139 --> 01:42:10,139 their life expectancy I understand that 1960 01:42:10,139 --> 01:42:12,840 but in the next I guess that deals with 1961 01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:14,940 the next discussion but there was 1962 01:42:14,940 --> 01:42:17,040 nothing put in for water wells and the 1963 01:42:17,040 --> 01:42:23,109 article funding so that's 1964 01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:28,380 I am just looking at other funding that 1965 01:42:28,380 --> 01:42:31,139 is available or becoming available for 1966 01:42:31,139 --> 01:42:33,659 water and wastewater that this project 1967 01:42:33,659 --> 01:42:36,719 may qualify for 1968 01:42:36,719 --> 01:42:38,760 opposed to you 1969 01:42:38,760 --> 01:42:40,739 th cargo plumbing and cargo funds 1970 01:42:40,739 --> 01:42:43,729 already 1971 01:42:43,739 --> 01:42:46,320 taking a shot it's looking especially in 1972 01:42:46,320 --> 01:42:47,699 terms of the infrastructure money that 1973 01:42:47,699 --> 01:42:50,760 I've had I obviously has we uh do we 1974 01:42:50,760 --> 01:42:52,619 have any idea what we're going to 1975 01:42:52,619 --> 01:42:55,460 receive at this point in time 1976 01:42:55,460 --> 01:42:58,040 I don't have any 1977 01:42:58,040 --> 01:43:01,440 specific in whether a lot of that is 1978 01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:03,719 competitive so you have to do an 1979 01:43:03,719 --> 01:43:06,119 application for it as opposed to like 1980 01:43:06,119 --> 01:43:08,760 the article one whose formula 1981 01:43:08,760 --> 01:43:14,510 how much we were going to get 1982 01:43:14,520 --> 01:43:15,739 any other questions 1983 01:43:15,739 --> 01:43:21,169 well I'll move this second 1984 01:43:21,179 --> 01:43:24,320 sorry a motion to promote 1985 01:43:24,320 --> 01:43:27,729 thank you very much 1986 01:43:27,739 --> 01:43:31,570 that was nice yeah 1987 01:43:31,570 --> 01:43:33,000 [Music] 1988 01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:37,430 Authority 1989 01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:39,540 I can appreciate the discussion we 1990 01:43:39,540 --> 01:43:42,679 started two weeks ago 1991 01:43:42,679 --> 01:43:46,260 to put forward the series of 1992 01:43:46,260 --> 01:43:48,480 recommendations for 1993 01:43:48,480 --> 01:43:53,689 getting Garfield the city has received 1994 01:43:53,699 --> 01:43:55,500 into consideration we look forward to 1995 01:43:55,500 --> 01:43:58,380 the discussion 1996 01:43:58,380 --> 01:44:00,540 thank you Mia I appreciate 1997 01:44:00,540 --> 01:44:02,340 um we are outline that you provided for 1998 01:44:02,340 --> 01:44:05,040 us over the weekend and then I'm not 1999 01:44:05,040 --> 01:44:06,780 sure if everyone had an opportunity to 2000 01:44:06,780 --> 01:44:08,400 read and there were several of needs to 2001 01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:10,440 the in terms of the description being 2002 01:44:10,440 --> 01:44:14,580 added to the projects besides the cause 2003 01:44:14,580 --> 01:44:16,139 so 2004 01:44:16,139 --> 01:44:19,260 I will open up for discussion about my 2005 01:44:19,260 --> 01:44:25,070 colleagues 2006 01:44:25,080 --> 01:44:27,239 yes thank you so based on our last 2007 01:44:27,239 --> 01:44:29,760 conversation a couple weeks ago what was 2008 01:44:29,760 --> 01:44:31,560 the mayor brought forward 2009 01:44:31,560 --> 01:44:33,420 um I think there was consensus at the 2010 01:44:33,420 --> 01:44:34,739 table there were a couple of projects 2011 01:44:34,739 --> 01:44:36,600 that were a part of it and I believe 2012 01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,100 there was enough consensus at the table 2013 01:44:38,100 --> 01:44:40,980 to be able to move those projects out so 2014 01:44:40,980 --> 01:44:42,420 I'm sure there's going to be a lot of 2015 01:44:42,420 --> 01:44:43,679 discussion but I think that's a good 2016 01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:46,980 starting place and one of those projects 2017 01:44:46,980 --> 01:44:49,860 was the Central Park Pool which we know 2018 01:44:49,860 --> 01:44:52,139 we already paid for the design is 2019 01:44:52,139 --> 01:44:54,739 already worth doing being done there 2020 01:44:54,739 --> 01:44:58,080 and the other room was the irrigation 2021 01:44:58,080 --> 01:45:00,900 for the golf course so 2022 01:45:00,900 --> 01:45:03,360 um I think that if we could start those 2023 01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:04,860 discussions there and just make sure 2024 01:45:04,860 --> 01:45:08,159 that you know everybody is in agreement 2025 01:45:08,159 --> 01:45:13,080 it's still two weeks later and then I 2026 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:14,520 mean I personally have some other 2027 01:45:14,520 --> 01:45:17,159 smaller projects that I um 2028 01:45:17,159 --> 01:45:23,100 city-based projects that I would like to see funded we asked a advisory 2029 01:45:23,100 --> 01:45:24,600 committee to come and give their time 2030 01:45:24,600 --> 01:45:27,659 and effort into looking at those and so 2031 01:45:27,659 --> 01:45:29,159 I have some of those like to move 2032 01:45:29,159 --> 01:45:30,420 forward but I thought that might be a 2033 01:45:30,420 --> 01:45:32,400 good place to start 2034 01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:34,199 um you can see how where people were 2035 01:45:34,199 --> 01:45:38,480 with those two particular projects 2036 01:45:38,480 --> 01:45:44,810 it's the Center Park and the dogs 2037 01:45:44,820 --> 01:45:47,280 but in person again we've always talked 2038 01:45:47,280 --> 01:45:49,920 about the one block of money being the 2039 01:45:49,920 --> 01:45:52,380 pool Cropper 2040 01:45:52,380 --> 01:45:55,010 another 2041 01:45:55,020 --> 01:45:57,480 set of money for the ancillary 2042 01:45:57,480 --> 01:46:00,780 development of lighting walkways parking 2043 01:46:00,780 --> 01:46:03,320 to connect a diamond 2044 01:46:03,320 --> 01:46:06,960 music Haven swimming pool chair Avenue 2045 01:46:06,960 --> 01:46:09,560 parking lot and going over to 2046 01:46:09,560 --> 01:46:13,920 Thomas's Pavilion so that that I've been 2047 01:46:13,920 --> 01:46:16,320 carrying a two million dollars in the 2048 01:46:16,320 --> 01:46:18,560 document that's provided to you 2049 01:46:18,560 --> 01:46:22,260 that we have not done the design work 2050 01:46:22,260 --> 01:46:26,159 done and so that number is a good faith 2051 01:46:26,159 --> 01:46:27,560 estimate 2052 01:46:27,560 --> 01:46:30,780 I hope it'll be less I also know just 2053 01:46:30,780 --> 01:46:32,280 today's market and some of these things 2054 01:46:32,280 --> 01:46:34,380 will come in at a higher 2055 01:46:34,380 --> 01:46:36,000 price point 2056 01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:38,760 so I just I just want to clarify so I 2057 01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,560 was suggesting that we move forward on 2058 01:46:40,560 --> 01:46:42,659 what was presented which was 4.5 last 2059 01:46:42,659 --> 01:46:44,580 time I see the additional things here 2060 01:46:44,580 --> 01:46:45,840 but like you say that wasn't part of 2061 01:46:45,840 --> 01:46:47,760 design so my recommendation was on the 2062 01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:50,520 4.5 that came to me before us and then 2063 01:46:50,520 --> 01:46:51,780 of course we look at those other things 2064 01:46:51,780 --> 01:46:54,000 that need to happen once we you know get 2065 01:46:54,000 --> 01:46:55,500 the real numbers 2066 01:46:55,500 --> 01:46:57,060 um and then the golf course came in it 2067 01:46:57,060 --> 01:46:58,560 was a different amount before but right 2068 01:46:58,560 --> 01:47:01,860 now it's uh 3.5 yeah save outline for 2069 01:47:01,860 --> 01:47:03,659 the whole 2070 01:47:03,659 --> 01:47:06,659 carpet allocation in the golf course 2071 01:47:06,659 --> 01:47:09,900 before was divided into two 2072 01:47:09,900 --> 01:47:12,659 comments yeah so the last time I gave 2073 01:47:12,659 --> 01:47:14,699 you a number of one and a half million 2074 01:47:14,699 --> 01:47:16,739 this one is three and a half million 2075 01:47:16,739 --> 01:47:18,659 which covers the 2076 01:47:18,659 --> 01:47:20,639 estimated cost for the entire project 2077 01:47:20,639 --> 01:47:23,460 I'm supporting the three and a half 2078 01:47:23,460 --> 01:47:26,100 go ahead please I want to speak to um 2079 01:47:26,100 --> 01:47:27,719 I'll speak to both projects I want to 2080 01:47:27,719 --> 01:47:29,159 start by speaking to the golf course 2081 01:47:29,159 --> 01:47:31,800 project obviously I know that this 2082 01:47:31,800 --> 01:47:33,840 predates me on household but at least 2083 01:47:33,840 --> 01:47:37,250 for the two and a half 2084 01:47:37,260 --> 01:47:41,090 the Canadian fourth Golf Course project 2085 01:47:41,100 --> 01:47:43,020 natural period of time the costs for 2086 01:47:43,020 --> 01:47:48,350 that project already have increased so 2087 01:47:48,360 --> 01:47:50,280 the golf course is 2088 01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:52,860 a jewel in our city it is a revenue 2089 01:47:52,860 --> 01:47:55,679 driver in our city it's part of a health 2090 01:47:55,679 --> 01:47:58,980 and wellness of residence I think that 2091 01:47:58,980 --> 01:48:00,780 the folks at the golf course do a 2092 01:48:00,780 --> 01:48:02,880 wonderful job as well with youth in our 2093 01:48:02,880 --> 01:48:05,219 city and the 2094 01:48:05,219 --> 01:48:09,060 new to our youth so I absolutely am in 2095 01:48:09,060 --> 01:48:12,540 favor of the 3.5 for the golf course and 2096 01:48:12,540 --> 01:48:15,540 I appreciate bringing those forward this 2097 01:48:15,540 --> 01:48:17,880 evening Madam president and then in 2098 01:48:17,880 --> 01:48:20,699 terms of the project for the senator 2099 01:48:20,699 --> 01:48:23,340 Park Pool again I think that project 2100 01:48:23,340 --> 01:48:25,320 just 2101 01:48:25,320 --> 01:48:27,119 very um 2102 01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:29,580 a project that goes beyond just the pool 2103 01:48:29,580 --> 01:48:32,400 but also has other types of improvements 2104 01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:33,840 in it I don't 2105 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:35,820 um I know there's other things broken up 2106 01:48:35,820 --> 01:48:39,470 here in your 2107 01:48:39,480 --> 01:48:42,239 recommendations but I absolutely think 2108 01:48:42,239 --> 01:48:45,659 we need that tool I know on at least two 2109 01:48:45,659 --> 01:48:48,420 days during the last Heat Wave that we 2110 01:48:48,420 --> 01:48:50,100 had we had to shut down 2111 01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:53,330 um 2112 01:48:53,340 --> 01:48:56,119 which 2113 01:48:56,119 --> 01:48:58,860 practically right in terms of out of 2114 01:48:58,860 --> 01:49:01,790 this 2115 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,080 beautiful and creative 2116 01:49:04,080 --> 01:49:08,689 problems of course the 2117 01:49:08,699 --> 01:49:09,960 clean it 2118 01:49:09,960 --> 01:49:13,500 refill it we were able to open it a week 2119 01:49:13,500 --> 01:49:15,960 ago today but it was close Saturday and 2120 01:49:15,960 --> 01:49:18,599 Sunday and it's just two hot days you 2121 01:49:18,599 --> 01:49:21,890 know 2122 01:49:21,900 --> 01:49:24,470 exclusive 2123 01:49:24,480 --> 01:49:26,520 so I was completely support both of 2124 01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,560 these projects and would like to see it 2125 01:49:28,560 --> 01:49:31,440 that we moved out tonight because you 2126 01:49:31,440 --> 01:49:33,080 did 2127 01:49:33,080 --> 01:49:35,699 just follow me 2128 01:49:35,699 --> 01:49:37,679 oh sorry 2129 01:49:37,679 --> 01:49:40,860 so um I I am in complete supportive of 2130 01:49:40,860 --> 01:49:42,119 projects as well for all the reasons 2131 01:49:42,119 --> 01:49:44,580 that were mentioned especially you know 2132 01:49:44,580 --> 01:49:47,099 these are one Century Park is due to our 2133 01:49:47,099 --> 01:49:51,239 community and Golf Course um 2134 01:49:51,239 --> 01:49:54,599 is a does create Revenue not only create 2135 01:49:54,599 --> 01:49:56,580 Revenue but it brings Revenue into the 2136 01:49:56,580 --> 01:49:59,179 City and after looking around and 2137 01:49:59,179 --> 01:50:01,860 calling calling around 2138 01:50:01,860 --> 01:50:04,080 research you know I started to recognize 2139 01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:06,119 that our Golf Course is really one of 2140 01:50:06,119 --> 01:50:08,159 the best municipal golf courses around 2141 01:50:08,159 --> 01:50:11,880 you know by far is what I hear so 2142 01:50:11,880 --> 01:50:14,340 um yeah I was pleased with that so with 2143 01:50:14,340 --> 01:50:15,900 that being said I support both projects 2144 01:50:15,900 --> 01:50:19,850 as well I'd like to see anything tonight 2145 01:50:19,860 --> 01:50:21,719 seems like they're going around so I 2146 01:50:21,719 --> 01:50:24,840 will ask sorry that it was hard but I 2147 01:50:24,840 --> 01:50:27,000 will do that for two projects so that we 2148 01:50:27,000 --> 01:50:30,179 can get a consensus and move forward 2149 01:50:30,179 --> 01:50:32,639 so I'd say uh Central Park and without 2150 01:50:32,639 --> 01:50:35,699 to blame her the 2151 01:50:35,699 --> 01:50:37,440 date that's definitely the pillar of our 2152 01:50:37,440 --> 01:50:39,960 community and I think the redesign 2153 01:50:39,960 --> 01:50:41,639 efforts are going to further staple that 2154 01:50:41,639 --> 01:50:44,820 fact again as Miss Porterfield mentioned 2155 01:50:44,820 --> 01:50:46,139 uh 2156 01:50:46,139 --> 01:50:48,000 I'm in agreement with supporting what 2157 01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:50,159 was brought forth making sure we still 2158 01:50:50,159 --> 01:50:51,780 leave those considerations for the other 2159 01:50:51,780 --> 01:50:53,880 projects so I'm in agreement with the 2160 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:56,280 4.5 in addition to the golf course I 2161 01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,599 have the opportunity to spend some time 2162 01:50:57,599 --> 01:51:00,719 with Mr Bailey a few days ago a few a 2163 01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:04,500 while ago I won't fit up here and 2164 01:51:04,500 --> 01:51:06,480 definitely as Mr Farley stated it's 2165 01:51:06,480 --> 01:51:09,060 definitely an amazing resource I still 2166 01:51:09,060 --> 01:51:11,099 need to take my buyers offer to take me 2167 01:51:11,099 --> 01:51:13,580 around the greens but I definitely 2168 01:51:13,580 --> 01:51:15,960 recognize its value and I think it's 2169 01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:17,520 worth mentioning that uh definitely 2170 01:51:17,520 --> 01:51:19,679 making sure that our entire Community is 2171 01:51:19,679 --> 01:51:21,060 on board with understanding that hey 2172 01:51:21,060 --> 01:51:23,520 we're making this investment and we want 2173 01:51:23,520 --> 01:51:27,840 it to be utilized so continuing 2174 01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,679 school district and also 2175 01:51:30,679 --> 01:51:33,360 making sure it is used by fire residents 2176 01:51:33,360 --> 01:51:38,470 is absolutely one of my priorities 2177 01:51:38,480 --> 01:51:41,820 I'll move the allocation of 4.5 million 2178 01:51:41,820 --> 01:51:44,219 for the Central Park Pool and 3.5 2179 01:51:44,219 --> 01:51:47,540 million for the golf course 2180 01:51:47,540 --> 01:51:50,119 [Music] 2181 01:51:50,119 --> 01:51:52,739 I think these are two significant 2182 01:51:52,739 --> 01:51:56,400 projects for our city and I think 2183 01:51:56,400 --> 01:51:58,800 we are all supportive of this project so 2184 01:51:58,800 --> 01:52:01,199 I am too I am very supportive of the 4.5 2185 01:52:01,199 --> 01:52:03,719 million dollar plus the 450 000 we 2186 01:52:03,719 --> 01:52:06,239 already allocated for the Central Park 2187 01:52:06,239 --> 01:52:08,219 pool construction 2188 01:52:08,219 --> 01:52:10,800 and also the 3.5 million dollars for the 2189 01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:12,599 golf course 2190 01:52:12,599 --> 01:52:15,370 so 2191 01:52:15,380 --> 01:52:18,420 we're all equipping the first item first 2192 01:52:18,420 --> 01:52:20,820 allocation second allocation 2193 01:52:20,820 --> 01:52:22,619 we want to move down to the next 2194 01:52:22,619 --> 01:52:24,179 Quarterfield you have taken a lead on 2195 01:52:24,179 --> 01:52:27,420 this to your activity do you want us to 2196 01:52:27,420 --> 01:52:29,580 walk us through 2197 01:52:29,580 --> 01:52:33,300 what else I think I made a motion so you 2198 01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:36,840 may ask for a second are we doing them 2199 01:52:36,840 --> 01:52:39,420 individually or are we I thought how I 2200 01:52:39,420 --> 01:52:41,040 understood it was we were doing those 2201 01:52:41,040 --> 01:52:43,560 two individually 2202 01:52:43,560 --> 01:52:46,500 no no I don't think so 2203 01:52:46,500 --> 01:52:50,040 but I like what I said was that I 2204 01:52:50,040 --> 01:52:51,659 thought we should start there because 2205 01:52:51,659 --> 01:52:53,099 those were two that'd come before us 2206 01:52:53,099 --> 01:52:55,020 before and what I also said was there 2207 01:52:55,020 --> 01:52:56,639 were other items that I had looked at 2208 01:52:56,639 --> 01:52:58,139 that I wanted us to do but I wanted to 2209 01:52:58,139 --> 01:52:59,219 make sure that we discussed those 2210 01:52:59,219 --> 01:53:00,599 because there were two things that we 2211 01:53:00,599 --> 01:53:02,219 were brought before us before that's how 2212 01:53:02,219 --> 01:53:03,840 I started this session now that we're 2213 01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:07,010 just moving on those two 2214 01:53:07,020 --> 01:53:09,599 yeah so let's move as much as we can to 2215 01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:10,500 see 2216 01:53:10,500 --> 01:53:12,420 the season starts you know thought is 2217 01:53:12,420 --> 01:53:21,430 because I mean it doesn't make any sense 2218 01:53:21,440 --> 01:53:23,810 foreign 2219 01:53:23,810 --> 01:53:24,920 [Music] 2220 01:53:24,920 --> 01:53:28,340 so the Empowerment Center 2221 01:53:28,340 --> 01:53:30,840 it's actually also on the marriage Hood 2222 01:53:30,840 --> 01:53:33,000 but and it's something that that I 2223 01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:35,159 definitely support and so 2224 01:53:35,159 --> 01:53:37,260 um to the Empowerment Center is the 2225 01:53:37,260 --> 01:53:39,179 building that we did currently at 818 2226 01:53:39,179 --> 01:53:41,580 Albany Street and 2227 01:53:41,580 --> 01:53:44,219 um something that Mr Gardner are from 2228 01:53:44,219 --> 01:53:45,840 the vaccine manager has been working on 2229 01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:48,179 for this project for a while and he put 2230 01:53:48,179 --> 01:53:51,659 a full description in the um application 2231 01:53:51,659 --> 01:53:54,719 that he that um that was submitted and 2232 01:53:54,719 --> 01:53:57,540 how it would help mwbes as well as 2233 01:53:57,540 --> 01:54:00,780 section three people and just give have 2234 01:54:00,780 --> 01:54:02,599 actually a space to do that training so 2235 01:54:02,599 --> 01:54:06,960 that amount was 875 500 and so I 2236 01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,239 definitely um support that one 2237 01:54:09,239 --> 01:54:11,280 hospitals I'm sorry I have to remove 2238 01:54:11,280 --> 01:54:12,840 what what uh item are you looking at 2239 01:54:12,840 --> 01:54:17,629 this 2240 01:54:17,639 --> 01:54:20,780 it's under you 2241 01:54:20,780 --> 01:54:25,040 okay yeah sorry 2242 01:54:25,040 --> 01:54:27,320 what was that amount 2243 01:54:27,320 --> 01:54:36,950 875 500. 875 500 dollars 2244 01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:40,139 to ask a question about that one so they 2245 01:54:40,139 --> 01:54:42,480 asked for 610 2246 01:54:42,480 --> 01:54:45,950 000 uh 2247 01:54:45,960 --> 01:54:48,599 I read unless I'm reading it incorrectly 2248 01:54:48,599 --> 01:54:51,780 from the materials that we were sent 2249 01:54:51,780 --> 01:54:55,070 um 2250 01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:57,060 according to what the department of 2251 01:54:57,060 --> 01:54:59,960 developed said they've asked for 875.50 2252 01:54:59,960 --> 01:55:02,219 and then that was the document that was 2253 01:55:02,219 --> 01:55:05,400 sent to us back in April is what the 2254 01:55:05,400 --> 01:55:07,380 requests were in that documentary but 2255 01:55:07,380 --> 01:55:09,599 it's on the spreadsheet um in the 2256 01:55:09,599 --> 01:55:11,820 spreadsheet that is netlife who sent us 2257 01:55:11,820 --> 01:55:16,280 followed previously it was about 8 2258 01:55:16,280 --> 01:55:18,440 750 2259 01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:23,460 880 750 000 was the total project cost 2260 01:55:23,460 --> 01:55:24,840 with 2261 01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,520 um the requested amount being six 2262 01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,940 hundred and ten thousand dollars for 2263 01:55:28,940 --> 01:55:32,940 75.43 of the project costs would be 2264 01:55:32,940 --> 01:55:35,340 coming from harp of funding 2265 01:55:35,340 --> 01:55:36,239 um so those were the previous 2266 01:55:36,239 --> 01:55:38,520 spreadsheets that I had well with the 2267 01:55:38,520 --> 01:55:44,760 theaters here bill um so what is the the number in this 2268 01:55:44,760 --> 01:55:49,020 proposal the million 75 500 yeah it's 2269 01:55:49,020 --> 01:55:51,540 based on a combination with the dirty 2270 01:55:51,540 --> 01:55:53,699 Foundation which 2271 01:55:53,699 --> 01:55:55,739 uh dog training and small business 2272 01:55:55,739 --> 01:55:58,679 assistance so they have submitted an 2273 01:55:58,679 --> 01:56:00,420 application as well that support really 2274 01:56:00,420 --> 01:56:01,860 high right 2275 01:56:01,860 --> 01:56:04,199 um and so that that number basically and 2276 01:56:04,199 --> 01:56:08,040 we met with both Ron and that member of 2277 01:56:08,040 --> 01:56:10,860 us see with the combined um initiative 2278 01:56:10,860 --> 01:56:12,980 which is complementary 2279 01:56:12,980 --> 01:56:16,500 I see so I misunderstood that that the 2280 01:56:16,500 --> 01:56:18,599 empowerment centerpiece is actually our 2281 01:56:18,599 --> 01:56:21,360 own office of affirmative action like 2282 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:24,000 I'm sorry I missed the combination 2283 01:56:24,000 --> 01:56:25,679 that's why I was wondering why we were 2284 01:56:25,679 --> 01:56:26,940 giving them more money than they were 2285 01:56:26,940 --> 01:56:28,739 asking for it but now I get it 2286 01:56:28,739 --> 01:56:31,380 anticipates a negotiation between what 2287 01:56:31,380 --> 01:56:34,560 Ron's trying to do during 2288 01:56:34,560 --> 01:56:37,980 in maximize the 2289 01:56:37,980 --> 01:56:41,040 impact of it and 2290 01:56:41,040 --> 01:56:44,239 again the rehab of that building 2291 01:56:44,239 --> 01:56:47,940 I think we have reasonable numbers for 2292 01:56:47,940 --> 01:56:49,199 it but I'm 2293 01:56:49,199 --> 01:56:53,520 amazed construction projects and uh 2294 01:56:53,520 --> 01:57:11,930 100 sure 2295 01:57:11,940 --> 01:57:15,599 so that was that was um to me with 8755 2296 01:57:15,599 --> 01:57:18,540 and um the other one that I have is it's 2297 01:57:18,540 --> 01:57:20,400 just a small amount 2298 01:57:20,400 --> 01:57:22,699 um the oh I'm sorry 2299 01:57:22,699 --> 01:57:26,460 was 50 000 for the uh doing Market 2300 01:57:26,460 --> 01:57:28,260 do we so before you proceed to that 2301 01:57:28,260 --> 01:57:30,239 because we have a great Foundation what 2302 01:57:30,239 --> 01:57:31,800 is the number is the difference between 2303 01:57:31,800 --> 01:57:35,000 the Thousand the four almost 2304 01:57:35,000 --> 01:57:37,080 do they have a number 2305 01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:40,040 uh I'm sorry 2306 01:57:40,040 --> 01:57:43,520 Foundation is actually asking for 610. 2307 01:57:43,520 --> 01:57:45,900 what we've got from the mayor's office 2308 01:57:45,900 --> 01:57:48,780 is a combination of the affirmative 2309 01:57:48,780 --> 01:57:49,679 action 2310 01:57:49,679 --> 01:57:51,480 West which 2311 01:57:51,480 --> 01:57:54,910 were 870 2312 01:57:54,920 --> 01:57:59,580 plus the six uh is how we get this 2313 01:57:59,580 --> 01:58:03,060 number of one million 2314 01:58:03,060 --> 01:58:12,470 75. 2315 01:58:12,480 --> 01:58:14,940 since we on this idea we'll look at the 2316 01:58:14,940 --> 01:58:23,149 discussion 2317 01:58:23,159 --> 01:58:25,199 so we're discussing uh 2318 01:58:25,199 --> 01:58:27,780 support for the empowerment sensor 875.5 2319 01:58:27,780 --> 01:58:33,530 and the three Foundation 610 2320 01:58:33,540 --> 01:58:37,910 Mr Williams I'm in support 2321 01:58:37,920 --> 01:58:41,099 please yeah I'm in support of both as 2322 01:58:41,099 --> 01:58:43,619 well and I think that HP noted that you 2323 01:58:43,619 --> 01:58:47,460 know having the collab you know and time 2324 01:58:47,460 --> 01:58:49,560 we have collaboration between two 2325 01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:51,119 different entities we get to Leverage 2326 01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:52,980 The expertise your expertise and 2327 01:58:52,980 --> 01:58:54,719 capacity to go so I appreciate the 2328 01:58:54,719 --> 01:58:56,580 problem I guess you make that that's 2329 01:58:56,580 --> 01:58:58,980 important so I support both 2330 01:58:58,980 --> 01:59:01,560 I just you know just a clarifying 2331 01:59:01,560 --> 01:59:03,840 question for um supporting both at the 2332 01:59:03,840 --> 01:59:04,980 level of the mayor you're not at the 2333 01:59:04,980 --> 01:59:06,480 full of long competing of both of them 2334 01:59:06,480 --> 01:59:08,340 at this amount right here 2335 01:59:08,340 --> 01:59:10,320 okay so it was my it was my 2336 01:59:10,320 --> 01:59:11,940 understanding that adding both of their 2337 01:59:11,940 --> 01:59:14,659 mouths together is 2338 01:59:14,659 --> 01:59:16,920 so no we're not giving them everything 2339 01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:22,070 they're asking 2340 01:59:22,080 --> 01:59:26,219 so let me go back up with our Euro 2341 01:59:26,219 --> 01:59:30,060 in support of 875 500 and 610. or are 2342 01:59:30,060 --> 01:59:33,119 you in support of the mayor's proposal 2343 01:59:33,119 --> 01:59:35,040 so I'm going to correct me if I'm wrong 2344 01:59:35,040 --> 01:59:37,080 your intent was trying to leverage both 2345 01:59:37,080 --> 01:59:39,300 the networking collaboratively I would 2346 01:59:39,300 --> 01:59:40,920 need clarification that they would be 2347 01:59:40,920 --> 01:59:44,750 able to meet their expenses with that 2348 01:59:44,760 --> 01:59:47,520 please many of the projects that are 2349 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,440 we're going to be discussing were not 2350 01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:51,060 giving them the amount of money that 2351 01:59:51,060 --> 01:59:53,219 they asked for I'm okay with that if 2352 01:59:53,219 --> 01:59:54,840 that recommendation came from the staff 2353 01:59:54,840 --> 01:59:57,780 and the mayor I'm assuming that she 2354 01:59:57,780 --> 01:59:58,980 needs to produce that word but I'm 2355 01:59:58,980 --> 02:00:01,760 thinking that they probably determined 2356 02:00:01,760 --> 02:00:04,080 that the projects could be completed 2357 02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:05,219 with the amount of money that they're 2358 02:00:05,219 --> 02:00:11,629 recommending so I'm is called 2359 02:00:11,639 --> 02:00:13,280 the sport but again 2360 02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:16,020 proposal for a little over a million 2361 02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:19,260 dollars also looking at the housing 2362 02:00:19,260 --> 02:00:22,560 component of rehabbing housing so 2363 02:00:22,560 --> 02:00:24,239 for doing some of the training that 2364 02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:26,940 we're creating job opportunities 2365 02:00:26,940 --> 02:00:29,599 baritos the uh 2366 02:00:29,599 --> 02:00:36,410 two the memory shares 2367 02:00:36,420 --> 02:00:39,659 two million uh 250 2368 02:00:39,659 --> 02:00:43,020 000 one with the million 250 2369 02:00:43,020 --> 02:00:45,540 000 from the land bank so again it's the 2370 02:00:45,540 --> 02:00:48,139 try and bring all the groups together 2371 02:00:48,139 --> 02:00:52,020 and still have an end product that gives 2372 02:00:52,020 --> 02:00:55,430 us the most impact 2373 02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:58,920 that those two numbers for City housing 2374 02:00:58,920 --> 02:01:02,709 the land bank and 2375 02:01:02,719 --> 02:01:07,199 needs foreclosure to starting 2376 02:01:07,199 --> 02:01:10,020 first part of September be able to rehab 2377 02:01:10,020 --> 02:01:13,080 those get them back in the tax rolls and 2378 02:01:13,080 --> 02:01:15,780 also generate some Revenue through those 2379 02:01:15,780 --> 02:01:19,080 sales to be able to offset some of the 2380 02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:20,520 expenses that we're going to have just 2381 02:01:20,520 --> 02:01:23,580 going forward with prior commitments for 2382 02:01:23,580 --> 02:01:25,500 contractual obligations talks about 2383 02:01:25,500 --> 02:01:27,320 bargains 2384 02:01:27,320 --> 02:01:29,099 McCarthy would you mind give me a 2385 02:01:29,099 --> 02:01:31,139 breakdown on your proposal in terms of 2386 02:01:31,139 --> 02:01:40,570 the involvement Center 2387 02:01:40,580 --> 02:01:42,599 [Music] 2388 02:01:42,599 --> 02:01:45,540 so which one are you looking for a 2389 02:01:45,540 --> 02:01:47,699 breakdown for the following Center and 2390 02:01:47,699 --> 02:01:49,980 also the you know you don't have a 2391 02:01:49,980 --> 02:01:52,139 breakdown Christian we divided up we 2392 02:01:52,139 --> 02:01:54,060 haven't had discussions with 2393 02:01:54,060 --> 02:01:55,099 us 2394 02:01:55,099 --> 02:02:00,420 yes we propose I think what we would the 2395 02:02:00,420 --> 02:02:02,159 full amount of the Empowerment Center to 2396 02:02:02,159 --> 02:02:04,080 make sure that it can be constructed and 2397 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:05,699 then the remaining I think it's around 2398 02:02:05,699 --> 02:02:08,460 300 000 for some of the programming that 2399 02:02:08,460 --> 02:02:11,099 the dirty foundation will provide hey 2400 02:02:11,099 --> 02:02:16,089 it's 7500 foreign 2401 02:02:16,099 --> 02:02:23,030 correct okay thank you yeah 2402 02:02:23,040 --> 02:02:31,440 if the projects they weren't able to 2403 02:02:31,440 --> 02:02:33,239 meet the project which I think the city 2404 02:02:33,239 --> 02:02:35,159 staff has on kind of done some 2405 02:02:35,159 --> 02:02:36,300 investigation make sure that's still 2406 02:02:36,300 --> 02:02:38,639 viable option that you know do you 2407 02:02:38,639 --> 02:02:40,199 saying that they would like to revisit 2408 02:02:40,199 --> 02:02:44,750 that 2409 02:02:44,760 --> 02:02:47,280 yeah please go ahead please I'm trying 2410 02:02:47,280 --> 02:02:48,840 to write that kind of a Christian kind 2411 02:02:48,840 --> 02:02:51,239 of just uh see I already outlined on it 2412 02:02:51,239 --> 02:02:52,739 so it seems like they've already done 2413 02:02:52,739 --> 02:02:54,060 this potential amount of work I didn't 2414 02:02:54,060 --> 02:02:56,340 mean any offense 2415 02:02:56,340 --> 02:03:03,950 Patrick with that understanding that 2416 02:03:03,960 --> 02:03:06,480 question 2417 02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:08,820 so are we in support of moving this 2418 02:03:08,820 --> 02:03:12,300 Tower 875 500 2419 02:03:12,300 --> 02:03:14,580 and let me see what the real number is 2420 02:03:14,580 --> 02:03:16,619 here 75 2421 02:03:16,619 --> 02:03:24,350 . 2422 02:03:24,360 --> 02:03:28,139 it's it's one it's 1 million 75 2423 02:03:28,139 --> 02:03:30,360 000. he wants the difference he sprayed 2424 02:03:30,360 --> 02:03:37,560 him down between the two hundred thousand 2425 02:03:37,560 --> 02:03:45,470 sorry 2426 02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:48,480 so do we have support for the million 75 2427 02:03:48,480 --> 02:03:51,780 500 working out in 875 500 for the 2428 02:03:51,780 --> 02:03:56,219 Empowerment Center and 200 000 for the 2429 02:03:56,219 --> 02:03:59,159 jury Foundation 2430 02:03:59,159 --> 02:04:01,500 go ahead please I will support it if we 2431 02:04:01,500 --> 02:04:03,000 are continuing to support the golf 2432 02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:05,040 course and the Central Park Pool so I 2433 02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:06,719 think it's going to be kind of difficult 2434 02:04:06,719 --> 02:04:09,000 being if we're really going to do them 2435 02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:10,860 one at a time or you know what I'm 2436 02:04:10,860 --> 02:04:11,820 saying 2437 02:04:11,820 --> 02:04:14,280 so I either want to 2438 02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,400 do what Miss Porterfield was I thought 2439 02:04:17,400 --> 02:04:19,020 suggesting at the beginning which is 2440 02:04:19,020 --> 02:04:22,860 let's pull money into the college 2441 02:04:22,860 --> 02:04:26,480 um and then we're going to do that yeah 2442 02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:28,739 I just want to make sure when we get to 2443 02:04:28,739 --> 02:04:30,900 the end of this page that I still have 2444 02:04:30,900 --> 02:04:38,430 the money from the golf course 2445 02:04:38,440 --> 02:04:47,109 [Music] 2446 02:04:47,119 --> 02:04:50,099 I don't think we can achieve 100 here 2447 02:04:50,099 --> 02:04:52,739 tonight for business but we'll try as 2448 02:04:52,739 --> 02:04:55,760 much as we can follow him 2449 02:04:55,760 --> 02:04:58,800 for taking them out of order yeah see 2450 02:04:58,800 --> 02:05:00,420 what I'm saying like we probably won't 2451 02:05:00,420 --> 02:05:02,040 get them all done tonight maybe we won't 2452 02:05:02,040 --> 02:05:06,370 maybe we will talk to the golf course 2453 02:05:06,380 --> 02:05:09,060 I think we say that now until we get to 2454 02:05:09,060 --> 02:05:10,560 another no we're not gonna perform you 2455 02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:14,209 said that period we already agree 2456 02:05:14,219 --> 02:05:18,169 understood 2457 02:05:18,179 --> 02:05:19,619 and this is why I put more money and 2458 02:05:19,619 --> 02:05:21,179 then we could revisit it 2459 02:05:21,179 --> 02:05:23,040 go ahead please 2460 02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:25,139 um so so are we fine with the 2461 02:05:25,139 --> 02:05:26,880 Empowerment Center and during that that 2462 02:05:26,880 --> 02:05:28,380 particular one 2463 02:05:28,380 --> 02:05:30,360 is there any objection to this funding 2464 02:05:30,360 --> 02:05:38,569 is as the mayor's proposal the numbers 2465 02:05:38,579 --> 02:05:40,619 it's like oh so this item takes two 2466 02:05:40,619 --> 02:05:43,440 items will be funded 2467 02:05:43,440 --> 02:05:45,239 um can I just had one more smile on the 2468 02:05:45,239 --> 02:05:47,099 Green Market for fifty thousand 2469 02:05:47,099 --> 02:05:49,560 um I know I know that they changed um 2470 02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,020 because it was a long period of time 2471 02:05:52,020 --> 02:05:53,219 between when they submit their 2472 02:05:53,219 --> 02:05:55,679 application and when we are making these 2473 02:05:55,679 --> 02:05:58,020 decisions I can say that they scored 2474 02:05:58,020 --> 02:06:00,780 well on by the community and I can also 2475 02:06:00,780 --> 02:06:02,099 say they're doing a great job in the 2476 02:06:02,099 --> 02:06:04,260 community and I we all got the email 2477 02:06:04,260 --> 02:06:05,820 that said they wanted to change it to 2478 02:06:05,820 --> 02:06:07,920 their food box program which I 2479 02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,079 understand is going extremely well and 2480 02:06:10,079 --> 02:06:11,340 they're taking they're actually 2481 02:06:11,340 --> 02:06:13,860 delivering food it wasn't originally the 2482 02:06:13,860 --> 02:06:15,179 trolley where they were asking people to 2483 02:06:15,179 --> 02:06:17,639 come down and that wasn't working out as 2484 02:06:17,639 --> 02:06:19,199 well as they had talked and so now they 2485 02:06:19,199 --> 02:06:20,460 change it with their 2486 02:06:20,460 --> 02:06:24,780 sorry they're delivering food yeah 2487 02:06:24,780 --> 02:06:27,719 well that that rating sheet was about 2488 02:06:27,719 --> 02:06:29,940 the trolley and now we're talking about 2489 02:06:29,940 --> 02:06:31,500 food boxes so you can't look at the 2490 02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:34,320 rating sheet okay but but just one 2491 02:06:34,320 --> 02:06:37,440 clarify okay so um I'm still support you 2492 02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:39,179 know I actually did reach out because 2493 02:06:39,179 --> 02:06:41,699 when I saw the change and um they said 2494 02:06:41,699 --> 02:06:43,260 they still needed the same amount and I 2495 02:06:43,260 --> 02:06:45,000 guess yeah I can speak to this as well 2496 02:06:45,000 --> 02:06:46,860 but again me and Mark is doing a great 2497 02:06:46,860 --> 02:06:48,360 job we just talked a couple weeks ago 2498 02:06:48,360 --> 02:06:49,920 how we're expanding something in 2499 02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:52,500 downtown because of how well attended 2500 02:06:52,500 --> 02:06:53,940 Etc it is so 2501 02:06:53,940 --> 02:06:57,540 um something that not only supports 2502 02:06:57,540 --> 02:06:59,400 individuals in the city it also brings 2503 02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:01,980 people here so the Green Market is doing 2504 02:07:01,980 --> 02:07:04,260 a great job and I I would certainly 2505 02:07:04,260 --> 02:07:08,099 support the 50 000 towards that 2506 02:07:08,099 --> 02:07:11,040 oh please go ahead um so again in 2507 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:13,079 the case the Green Market is not broken 2508 02:07:13,079 --> 02:07:16,199 up in the mayor's proposal it is part of 2509 02:07:16,199 --> 02:07:17,699 a larger ask 2510 02:07:17,699 --> 02:07:19,860 um for food security and obviously I 2511 02:07:19,860 --> 02:07:22,139 think if we were to look at major issues 2512 02:07:22,139 --> 02:07:24,000 in the city 2513 02:07:24,000 --> 02:07:26,340 I think housing and food security are 2514 02:07:26,340 --> 02:07:28,500 two that are you know right up there in 2515 02:07:28,500 --> 02:07:30,360 terms of some of the issues facing Us in 2516 02:07:30,360 --> 02:07:32,820 terms of the poverty in the city 2517 02:07:32,820 --> 02:07:36,540 um so I'm not sure if 50 000 is what 2518 02:07:36,540 --> 02:07:38,159 um the 2519 02:07:38,159 --> 02:07:40,380 for the Green Market is what is being 2520 02:07:40,380 --> 02:07:46,729 posed in this figure by the mayor so 2521 02:07:46,739 --> 02:07:49,500 it's what I'm proposing I'm that's what 2522 02:07:49,500 --> 02:07:51,139 I'm saying that's what I'm I'm 2523 02:07:51,139 --> 02:07:53,639 fully that's what I'm saying okay I 2524 02:07:53,639 --> 02:07:55,560 would like to see then how that breaks 2525 02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,340 into breaks down into this um sccc 2526 02:07:59,340 --> 02:08:04,280 sikkum Schenectady Foundation mask 2527 02:08:04,280 --> 02:08:08,280 uh Mr Parliament again yeah so we're 2528 02:08:08,280 --> 02:08:09,360 either going to consider the 2529 02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:12,480 applications or not and if we're not I'm 2530 02:08:12,480 --> 02:08:15,300 fine with that that opens it up for 2531 02:08:15,300 --> 02:08:19,139 everyone and otherwise the application 2532 02:08:19,139 --> 02:08:22,440 is what the application is and I think 2533 02:08:22,440 --> 02:08:25,560 if we're going to go that route and say 2534 02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,199 well we have all these reviews then 2535 02:08:28,199 --> 02:08:32,159 basically the reviews are meaningless 2536 02:08:32,159 --> 02:08:34,679 the applications are meetings because 2537 02:08:34,679 --> 02:08:37,500 we've now changed the entire process 2538 02:08:37,500 --> 02:08:38,940 so 2539 02:08:38,940 --> 02:08:41,940 that being said also I do know the 2540 02:08:41,940 --> 02:08:45,179 county is addressing trying to address 2541 02:08:45,179 --> 02:08:47,579 a food insecurity issues I think it 2542 02:08:47,579 --> 02:08:48,480 would be 2543 02:08:48,480 --> 02:08:50,760 inherent upon us to see what they're 2544 02:08:50,760 --> 02:08:53,040 going to do with money for food and 2545 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:54,420 security 2546 02:08:54,420 --> 02:08:57,719 and look at that 2547 02:08:57,719 --> 02:08:59,880 so I would be opposed to this fifty 2548 02:08:59,880 --> 02:09:20,270 thousand dollars for the green money 2549 02:09:20,280 --> 02:09:22,380 um so the new space that's being created 2550 02:09:22,380 --> 02:09:24,119 to Green Space downtown isn't 2551 02:09:24,119 --> 02:09:26,699 specifically for the Green Market 2552 02:09:26,699 --> 02:09:28,440 um so again it's going to be the part 2553 02:09:28,440 --> 02:09:30,360 but you said they're expanding because 2554 02:09:30,360 --> 02:09:32,760 the Green Space 2555 02:09:32,760 --> 02:09:38,340 and again the application was for the trolley 2556 02:09:38,340 --> 02:09:42,719 um not for the program delivering food 2557 02:09:42,719 --> 02:09:45,900 boxes which again is absolutely 2558 02:09:45,900 --> 02:09:47,639 essential there's a lot of programs in 2559 02:09:47,639 --> 02:09:49,320 the city that are currently doing that 2560 02:09:49,320 --> 02:09:51,119 and it's something that we definitely 2561 02:09:51,119 --> 02:09:54,300 need to bring the food out to the 2562 02:09:54,300 --> 02:09:56,099 residents that can't get out but because 2563 02:09:56,099 --> 02:09:58,020 of the applications for the trolley then 2564 02:09:58,020 --> 02:10:00,960 I'm not in favor of that specifically I 2565 02:10:00,960 --> 02:10:03,000 wasn't asked patient participant the 2566 02:10:03,000 --> 02:10:07,079 space the council has acted on across 2567 02:10:07,079 --> 02:10:09,719 from City Hall is really to utilize the 2568 02:10:09,719 --> 02:10:14,159 grant the SIC gap for AARP of which the 2569 02:10:14,159 --> 02:10:17,639 Green Market would be one beneficiary of 2570 02:10:17,639 --> 02:10:21,119 that space that would not be exclusive 2571 02:10:21,119 --> 02:10:55,189 foreign 2572 02:10:55,199 --> 02:10:57,300 to consider for each application let's 2573 02:10:57,300 --> 02:11:00,300 say I think it's up to the council 2574 02:11:00,300 --> 02:11:02,940 just to clarify I think that the 2575 02:11:02,940 --> 02:11:05,340 original application was about the CDTA 2576 02:11:05,340 --> 02:11:07,380 trawling program yes so what that did 2577 02:11:07,380 --> 02:11:10,619 was bring people from neighborhoods to 2578 02:11:10,619 --> 02:11:13,380 the Green Market it wasn't successful 2579 02:11:13,380 --> 02:11:16,139 and so they didn't continue with the 2580 02:11:16,139 --> 02:11:18,179 project they just didn't get the 2581 02:11:18,179 --> 02:11:20,159 ridership that they 2582 02:11:20,159 --> 02:11:21,300 hoped for 2583 02:11:21,300 --> 02:11:23,639 it's a great idea I thought but it 2584 02:11:23,639 --> 02:11:26,940 didn't it wasn't utilized so 2585 02:11:26,940 --> 02:11:31,520 emails from Ms Macaro I think last week 2586 02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:34,980 asking whether we could change their 2587 02:11:34,980 --> 02:11:39,000 proposal from that program 2588 02:11:39,000 --> 02:11:40,560 instead they would like to use the money 2589 02:11:40,560 --> 02:11:42,659 for the food box program the food box 2590 02:11:42,659 --> 02:11:45,719 program doesn't bring people to the 2591 02:11:45,719 --> 02:11:47,760 Green Market it brings the food to the 2592 02:11:47,760 --> 02:11:50,159 people and so it doesn't it doesn't 2593 02:11:50,159 --> 02:11:52,520 impact the space the new space 2594 02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:54,719 that the Green Market will be able to 2595 02:11:54,719 --> 02:11:57,599 use it's it's all about delivery of 2596 02:11:57,599 --> 02:12:00,000 foods in much the same way that you know 2597 02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,840 we have other the sick of mobile van 2598 02:12:02,840 --> 02:12:05,400 which is another part of the larger 2599 02:12:05,400 --> 02:12:09,599 mayor's proposal brings food to to 2600 02:12:09,599 --> 02:12:11,820 people I think what it's allowing is for 2601 02:12:11,820 --> 02:12:13,619 people to be able to use their SNAP 2602 02:12:13,619 --> 02:12:15,420 benefits 2603 02:12:15,420 --> 02:12:19,020 right and the EBT cards 2604 02:12:19,020 --> 02:12:21,360 I I think that's what it is but we don't 2605 02:12:21,360 --> 02:12:22,980 have a full proposal for it because we 2606 02:12:22,980 --> 02:12:25,500 didn't get an application for just the 2607 02:12:25,500 --> 02:12:27,239 email right 2608 02:12:27,239 --> 02:12:29,159 yeah I I think what they're trying to do 2609 02:12:29,159 --> 02:12:30,780 here is because the Box the food box 2610 02:12:30,780 --> 02:12:32,460 program is working um 2611 02:12:32,460 --> 02:12:34,560 you know a great success to free market 2612 02:12:34,560 --> 02:12:37,139 and I'm trying to meet meet the needs of 2613 02:12:37,139 --> 02:12:39,420 the people who are pretty much unable to 2614 02:12:39,420 --> 02:12:42,900 come to the market to access these stuff 2615 02:12:42,900 --> 02:12:44,760 here I think it was serving 20 people 2616 02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:46,760 that's part of you 2617 02:12:46,760 --> 02:12:50,820 I think I read in the inbox no no I'm 2618 02:12:50,820 --> 02:12:53,460 sorry I saw in something that we got it 2619 02:12:53,460 --> 02:12:55,079 said 20 people thank you 2620 02:12:55,079 --> 02:12:56,520 and him so far 2621 02:12:56,520 --> 02:12:59,360 well I think I'm sorry 2622 02:12:59,360 --> 02:13:03,000 Mrs Carl to expand on that and um we 2623 02:13:03,000 --> 02:13:04,500 always talk about food and security and 2624 02:13:04,500 --> 02:13:06,480 this is one of those yeah 2625 02:13:06,480 --> 02:13:07,980 is one of those things that's serving 2626 02:13:07,980 --> 02:13:10,199 that and we're not talking about a 2627 02:13:10,199 --> 02:13:11,340 million dollars 2628 02:13:11,340 --> 02:13:12,900 and we're talking about a program that 2629 02:13:12,900 --> 02:13:15,360 does a lot of good work so I'm still so 2630 02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:17,099 if even I understand 2631 02:13:17,099 --> 02:13:18,659 um and let's just keep in mind that 2632 02:13:18,659 --> 02:13:20,340 things have changed in the eight months 2633 02:13:20,340 --> 02:13:22,260 that it's taken us to look at these 2634 02:13:22,260 --> 02:13:23,820 applications so 2635 02:13:23,820 --> 02:13:26,520 um I still think that we should consider 2636 02:13:26,520 --> 02:13:28,679 um the changes and be able to support 2637 02:13:28,679 --> 02:13:31,020 people still getting food even if it was 2638 02:13:31,020 --> 02:13:32,940 not in the way that we that it was 2639 02:13:32,940 --> 02:13:34,079 originally intended that they thought 2640 02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:35,639 would make it sense to get food because 2641 02:13:35,639 --> 02:13:37,860 that just wasn't working for people to 2642 02:13:37,860 --> 02:13:40,079 come down to the gray market so 2643 02:13:40,079 --> 02:13:42,239 um I understand the changes but that 2644 02:13:42,239 --> 02:13:45,239 still you know my position in terms of 2645 02:13:45,239 --> 02:13:49,380 um addressing food insecurity to a 2646 02:13:49,380 --> 02:13:51,900 demographic that you know just doesn't 2647 02:13:51,900 --> 02:13:53,159 make it to the Green Market for any 2648 02:13:53,159 --> 02:13:54,480 number of reasons 2649 02:13:54,480 --> 02:13:56,880 so far yeah I just want to say I'm you 2650 02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,380 know so for supporting anything that's 2651 02:13:58,380 --> 02:14:03,000 going to increase access I think it's an equitable program which I think 2652 02:14:03,000 --> 02:14:06,780 that we kind of pay lip service to ads 2653 02:14:06,780 --> 02:14:08,940 um you know often but I think that this 2654 02:14:08,940 --> 02:14:10,440 is the demonstration of that like when 2655 02:14:10,440 --> 02:14:12,420 people can't get there you know what I 2656 02:14:12,420 --> 02:14:13,800 mean you're bringing food to them so I 2657 02:14:13,800 --> 02:14:21,010 think that's a great thing that's all 2658 02:14:21,020 --> 02:14:25,030 of course 2659 02:14:25,040 --> 02:14:29,280 it's 20 deliveries each Sunday yeah it 2660 02:14:29,280 --> 02:14:30,659 is obviously going it might be in the 2661 02:14:30,659 --> 02:14:32,219 same 20 people 2662 02:14:32,219 --> 02:14:34,920 but it is 20 deliveries each Sunday that 2663 02:14:34,920 --> 02:14:37,079 they use that money for but it is only 2664 02:14:37,079 --> 02:14:38,760 20 to listen and people have to eat each 2665 02:14:38,760 --> 02:14:43,609 a week though 2666 02:14:43,619 --> 02:14:46,320 oh please and again the county is going 2667 02:14:46,320 --> 02:14:49,020 to be looking at this so it it might be 2668 02:14:49,020 --> 02:14:51,360 smart for us to hold off on this until 2669 02:14:51,360 --> 02:14:53,639 we figure out what they're going to be 2670 02:14:53,639 --> 02:14:54,900 spending their money so we're not 2671 02:14:54,900 --> 02:14:57,300 duplicating Services because we have an 2672 02:14:57,300 --> 02:14:59,280 awful lot of duplicate services in the 2673 02:14:59,280 --> 02:15:02,760 city and while it's great that there's 2674 02:15:02,760 --> 02:15:05,820 plenty of help it's money probably not 2675 02:15:05,820 --> 02:15:09,540 being most efficiently spent and if we 2676 02:15:09,540 --> 02:15:11,340 really wanted to help the most amount of 2677 02:15:11,340 --> 02:15:13,340 people we should be efficient without 2678 02:15:13,340 --> 02:15:16,739 with our resources and I think it would 2679 02:15:16,739 --> 02:15:19,199 be wise for us to look at what the 2680 02:15:19,199 --> 02:15:28,590 problem is 2681 02:15:28,600 --> 02:15:34,390 [Music] 2682 02:15:34,400 --> 02:15:36,360 does it come out of the mayor's 2683 02:15:36,360 --> 02:15:39,239 allocation 1 million yeah somebody taken 2684 02:15:39,239 --> 02:15:41,460 out against that okay yes so these 2685 02:15:41,460 --> 02:15:43,980 programs would be short fifty thousand 2686 02:15:43,980 --> 02:15:45,840 dollars for 2687 02:15:45,840 --> 02:15:47,880 you know Sikkim for the lunch programs 2688 02:15:47,880 --> 02:15:51,069 and different things 2689 02:15:51,079 --> 02:15:56,280 right put these collectively sure uh you 2690 02:15:56,280 --> 02:15:58,800 can get the opportunity to meet the new 2691 02:15:58,800 --> 02:16:01,739 president at the Clarkson 2692 02:16:01,739 --> 02:16:04,560 a couple weeks ago 2693 02:16:04,560 --> 02:16:06,719 some discussions that haven't come 2694 02:16:06,719 --> 02:16:08,579 together anticipated coming together in 2695 02:16:08,579 --> 02:16:10,679 the next couple weeks but doing a 2696 02:16:10,679 --> 02:16:13,020 Capstone project in terms of data 2697 02:16:13,020 --> 02:16:14,219 collection 2698 02:16:14,219 --> 02:16:18,420 on the issue of food insecurity the 2699 02:16:18,420 --> 02:16:19,920 availability of food within the 2700 02:16:19,920 --> 02:16:21,659 community so that you're looking to take 2701 02:16:21,659 --> 02:16:24,119 some of their grad students put them 2702 02:16:24,119 --> 02:16:28,430 there so we can go out into 2703 02:16:28,440 --> 02:16:30,900 the community as a whole look at some of 2704 02:16:30,900 --> 02:16:34,019 these neighborhood stores look at the 2705 02:16:34,019 --> 02:16:36,899 ability of vendors of the Green Market 2706 02:16:36,899 --> 02:16:38,719 you know there's still 2707 02:16:38,719 --> 02:16:41,460 scenarios you can put in the market in 2708 02:16:41,460 --> 02:16:44,399 downtown how do we 2709 02:16:44,399 --> 02:16:46,019 leverage the money that we're going to 2710 02:16:46,019 --> 02:16:50,120 spend and at the same time address 2711 02:16:50,120 --> 02:16:54,780 the most number of people to provide 2712 02:16:54,780 --> 02:16:57,540 food that people need in again this 2713 02:16:57,540 --> 02:16:59,780 period of 2714 02:16:59,780 --> 02:17:02,939 stress that's happening in post covet 2715 02:17:02,939 --> 02:17:05,219 and some of the inflationary Impressions 2716 02:17:05,219 --> 02:17:07,740 that are on households in terms of just 2717 02:17:07,740 --> 02:17:10,019 getting their basic needs 2718 02:17:10,019 --> 02:17:14,209 allocation 2719 02:17:14,219 --> 02:17:15,359 it's 2720 02:17:15,359 --> 02:17:17,240 I thought I don't know if we 2721 02:17:17,240 --> 02:17:19,380 started if we've worked the deal with 2722 02:17:19,380 --> 02:17:21,719 the three scenarios but to try and get 2723 02:17:21,719 --> 02:17:24,000 them to work together and also do it in 2724 02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:26,819 a complimentary fashion with uh 2725 02:17:26,819 --> 02:17:28,620 the department of social services and 2726 02:17:28,620 --> 02:17:30,599 some of the individuals that they're 2727 02:17:30,599 --> 02:17:32,580 working with 2728 02:17:32,580 --> 02:17:36,179 um you know to the most recent 2729 02:17:36,179 --> 02:17:38,760 discussions but 2730 02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:41,639 we're asking for a 2731 02:17:41,639 --> 02:17:43,559 breakdown of the million dollars 2732 02:17:43,559 --> 02:17:46,920 allocated to the food security 2733 02:17:46,920 --> 02:17:55,549 foreign 2734 02:17:55,559 --> 02:17:56,639 because we have a lot of duplicative 2735 02:17:56,639 --> 02:17:58,080 services in the city where a lot of 2736 02:17:58,080 --> 02:17:59,340 people do the same things and I don't 2737 02:17:59,340 --> 02:18:01,319 really share services and the idea let's 2738 02:18:01,319 --> 02:18:03,000 get them to come out together connecting 2739 02:18:03,000 --> 02:18:04,559 foundations investing a lot of money in 2740 02:18:04,559 --> 02:18:06,899 this anyway and they're trying to pull a 2741 02:18:06,899 --> 02:18:08,639 collaborative effort to kind of address 2742 02:18:08,639 --> 02:18:10,559 boosts its security and promote a more 2743 02:18:10,559 --> 02:18:13,139 strategic approach so argument was all 2744 02:18:13,139 --> 02:18:14,099 these groups are already working 2745 02:18:14,099 --> 02:18:16,019 together to get the money get the group 2746 02:18:16,019 --> 02:18:17,819 and then tell the group come up with 2747 02:18:17,819 --> 02:18:20,099 strategic plan to address them along 2748 02:18:20,099 --> 02:18:22,080 do things better 2749 02:18:22,080 --> 02:18:24,960 go ahead so basically 2750 02:18:24,960 --> 02:18:27,300 um second is because the Schenectady 2751 02:18:27,300 --> 02:18:28,800 Foundation has for six hundred thousand 2752 02:18:28,800 --> 02:18:29,939 dollars 2753 02:18:29,939 --> 02:18:31,979 um because they're kind of formed on the 2754 02:18:31,979 --> 02:18:33,059 council 2755 02:18:33,059 --> 02:18:33,920 um 2756 02:18:33,920 --> 02:18:35,819 yes 2757 02:18:35,819 --> 02:18:38,399 um so I guess 2758 02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:41,399 I just need to clarifying because I took 2759 02:18:41,399 --> 02:18:45,120 it literally that I I did where I think 2760 02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:46,639 for those four 2761 02:18:46,639 --> 02:18:49,920 applications and looked at what they 2762 02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,639 each were asking for and you know now it 2763 02:18:53,639 --> 02:18:54,840 sounds like what you're saying is 2764 02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:57,179 instead would basically give a million 2765 02:18:57,179 --> 02:18:59,580 dollars to I don't know the Schenectady 2766 02:18:59,580 --> 02:19:03,240 Foundation to say hey here's a million 2767 02:19:03,240 --> 02:19:05,040 dollars to continue convening this 2768 02:19:05,040 --> 02:19:06,540 Council 2769 02:19:06,540 --> 02:19:09,059 um that is going to try to look at how 2770 02:19:09,059 --> 02:19:11,460 they can bring the various nonprofits in 2771 02:19:11,460 --> 02:19:12,660 town 2772 02:19:12,660 --> 02:19:15,780 Beyond sccc and sikkum and the 2773 02:19:15,780 --> 02:19:18,479 Schenectady Foundation remarket 2774 02:19:18,479 --> 02:19:19,080 um 2775 02:19:19,080 --> 02:19:20,399 there's so many others that are 2776 02:19:20,399 --> 02:19:21,979 providing food 2777 02:19:21,979 --> 02:19:24,599 so is that what you're saying that it 2778 02:19:24,599 --> 02:19:26,639 was more I kind of when I was like when 2779 02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:28,620 I got the when I got this memo over the 2780 02:19:28,620 --> 02:19:30,240 weekend I was kind of thinking oh it's 2781 02:19:30,240 --> 02:19:33,359 like a fund to address food security 2782 02:19:33,359 --> 02:19:35,580 issues in general 2783 02:19:35,580 --> 02:19:37,559 um Beyond these four applications to go 2784 02:19:37,559 --> 02:19:40,500 back to the applications you know 2785 02:19:40,500 --> 02:19:41,939 because collaboratively what does that 2786 02:19:41,939 --> 02:19:43,800 look like so by those times people about 2787 02:19:43,800 --> 02:19:46,260 contract we that would have to obviously 2788 02:19:46,260 --> 02:19:49,200 be decided would it be just these four 2789 02:19:49,200 --> 02:19:52,319 applicants the Schenectady Foundation is 2790 02:19:52,319 --> 02:19:54,060 unless the city market is another 2791 02:19:54,060 --> 02:19:56,540 concern for home group 2792 02:19:56,540 --> 02:19:59,399 or that part of the boarding 2793 02:19:59,399 --> 02:20:01,920 is that an agency yeah it wasn't part of 2794 02:20:01,920 --> 02:20:04,979 this million dollars oh 2795 02:20:04,979 --> 02:20:07,380 and I asked the council before we move 2796 02:20:07,380 --> 02:20:09,960 some money around for fee to Albany just 2797 02:20:09,960 --> 02:20:13,399 to provide some internal assistance for 2798 02:20:13,399 --> 02:20:16,260 right and people who are identified as 2799 02:20:16,260 --> 02:20:17,880 uh 2800 02:20:17,880 --> 02:20:19,920 marginal in terms of their access to 2801 02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:20,899 food 2802 02:20:20,899 --> 02:20:23,819 in the police department's working on a 2803 02:20:23,819 --> 02:20:27,359 community volunteers yes CCC I think 2804 02:20:27,359 --> 02:20:29,819 it's been up in that too and I can add 2805 02:20:29,819 --> 02:20:31,380 too that the County's working on that 2806 02:20:31,380 --> 02:20:33,420 too so before the city does something we 2807 02:20:33,420 --> 02:20:34,859 should probably see what the County's 2808 02:20:34,859 --> 02:20:51,490 putting out there as well not 2809 02:20:51,500 --> 02:20:54,600 we're way over the million already yep 2810 02:20:54,600 --> 02:20:56,580 um and I heard the mayor say that you 2811 02:20:56,580 --> 02:20:58,020 know people are going to examine the 2812 02:20:58,020 --> 02:20:59,460 issue and there's going to be a Capstone 2813 02:20:59,460 --> 02:21:02,340 project and a study and I am inclined to 2814 02:21:02,340 --> 02:21:05,040 give money so people can eat today 2815 02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:08,460 so I think in in terms of the county and 2816 02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:09,899 if we're concerned that the county we 2817 02:21:09,899 --> 02:21:11,280 don't want to duplicate we simply say to 2818 02:21:11,280 --> 02:21:13,200 the county that we gave 50 000 to the 2819 02:21:13,200 --> 02:21:15,950 Green Market 2820 02:21:15,960 --> 02:21:18,600 so I again will support this so they're 2821 02:21:18,600 --> 02:21:20,520 already doing the work they have a 2822 02:21:20,520 --> 02:21:22,140 program that's running 2823 02:21:22,140 --> 02:21:24,899 um that's proven to be successful and so 2824 02:21:24,899 --> 02:21:26,520 again it's fifty thousand dollars and 2825 02:21:26,520 --> 02:21:28,859 maybe it's not a huge sum of money to us 2826 02:21:28,859 --> 02:21:31,260 but clearly to an organization that is 2827 02:21:31,260 --> 02:21:32,580 trying to make sure that people get fed 2828 02:21:32,580 --> 02:21:34,080 and they can do their programming it is 2829 02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:37,200 so I um I come back to the fact that um 2830 02:21:37,200 --> 02:21:38,819 that's why I didn't pull out those 2831 02:21:38,819 --> 02:21:40,439 larger ones because I knew I mean we 2832 02:21:40,439 --> 02:21:41,580 just didn't have enough money for that 2833 02:21:41,580 --> 02:21:43,680 right now and I'm not sure it's a 2834 02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:46,140 further discussion but they're asking 2835 02:21:46,140 --> 02:21:49,439 for 600 670 000 they're asking for fifty 2836 02:21:49,439 --> 02:21:52,080 thousand so again I support the fifty 2837 02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:54,000 thousand 2838 02:21:54,000 --> 02:21:56,580 Mr can you just explain again you had 2839 02:21:56,580 --> 02:21:58,080 mentioned earlier about the application 2840 02:21:58,080 --> 02:22:00,560 not being what it was and would open up 2841 02:22:00,560 --> 02:22:02,880 for other folks that might have sent in 2842 02:22:02,880 --> 02:22:04,859 an application requesting something but 2843 02:22:04,859 --> 02:22:06,479 didn't get a favor 2844 02:22:06,479 --> 02:22:08,700 what did you say earlier I'm saying can 2845 02:22:08,700 --> 02:22:11,220 you repeat that 2846 02:22:11,220 --> 02:22:13,740 um I think Mr moonbaron was just asking 2847 02:22:13,740 --> 02:22:16,500 how we address changes in applications 2848 02:22:16,500 --> 02:22:19,680 so all I was saying is that you know my 2849 02:22:19,680 --> 02:22:22,080 review like if you're things are going 2850 02:22:22,080 --> 02:22:23,760 to change it's been a long time you know 2851 02:22:23,760 --> 02:22:25,200 these applications were submitted in 2852 02:22:25,200 --> 02:22:26,460 December 2853 02:22:26,460 --> 02:22:28,680 um but we would you know if other people 2854 02:22:28,680 --> 02:22:30,420 come forward and request the same thing 2855 02:22:30,420 --> 02:22:31,800 I would just think we would need to 2856 02:22:31,800 --> 02:22:34,979 equally evaluate those decisions I'm up 2857 02:22:34,979 --> 02:22:37,020 for that so that's all I was saying 2858 02:22:37,020 --> 02:22:38,939 right we may be up for it but where's 2859 02:22:38,939 --> 02:22:41,040 the funding coming from no right we're 2860 02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:42,540 not talking about different money we're 2861 02:22:42,540 --> 02:22:44,880 talking about different youths 2862 02:22:44,880 --> 02:22:50,809 right 2863 02:22:50,819 --> 02:22:53,760 so go ahead again if you want to stay 2864 02:22:53,760 --> 02:22:56,580 yeah I just think that the magnitude of 2865 02:22:56,580 --> 02:23:00,140 what Signum does for example 200 people 2866 02:23:00,140 --> 02:23:02,340 I think she's gonna probably there's 2867 02:23:02,340 --> 02:23:03,780 other things that are probably going to 2868 02:23:03,780 --> 02:23:06,420 be but I think the magnitude of what 2869 02:23:06,420 --> 02:23:07,500 happens 2870 02:23:07,500 --> 02:23:09,420 at a sitcom 2871 02:23:09,420 --> 02:23:12,540 which is asking for 600 and yeah 2872 02:23:12,540 --> 02:23:19,020 uh sorry 670 344 which is only 34 by the 2873 02:23:19,020 --> 02:23:20,580 way 2874 02:23:20,580 --> 02:23:22,800 the of the project that they are trying 2875 02:23:22,800 --> 02:23:25,500 to fund that amount of money was only 34 2876 02:23:25,500 --> 02:23:28,319 of the total project cost so they're 2877 02:23:28,319 --> 02:23:30,899 providing the rest of the 60s six 2878 02:23:30,899 --> 02:23:32,939 percent of it themselves from other 2879 02:23:32,939 --> 02:23:34,740 funding sources I mean when you think 2880 02:23:34,740 --> 02:23:36,240 about the number of people that they're 2881 02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:39,240 serving on a day by day basis I'm just 2882 02:23:39,240 --> 02:23:41,819 saying I'm weighing that against I'm not 2883 02:23:41,819 --> 02:23:45,060 saying this is a bad program at all 2884 02:23:45,060 --> 02:23:47,399 um saying you weighing now the magnitude 2885 02:23:47,399 --> 02:23:49,439 of that you're weighing the food pantry 2886 02:23:49,439 --> 02:23:51,140 at sccc 2887 02:23:51,140 --> 02:23:53,819 which is serving you know all those 2888 02:23:53,819 --> 02:23:56,160 folks every day 2889 02:23:56,160 --> 02:23:57,780 um you know 2890 02:23:57,780 --> 02:23:59,939 I just think we have to look big picture 2891 02:23:59,939 --> 02:24:02,580 on this and it seems like that's what 2892 02:24:02,580 --> 02:24:04,380 the development staff and the other 2893 02:24:04,380 --> 02:24:06,180 staff that were involved in the 2894 02:24:06,180 --> 02:24:09,840 conversations around these proposals 2895 02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:11,939 um sounds to me like that's what you're 2896 02:24:11,939 --> 02:24:15,420 suggesting is to look a big picture I 2897 02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:17,460 mean I think we just there was a lot of 2898 02:24:17,460 --> 02:24:19,439 you know food related applications and 2899 02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:20,939 we wanted things especially with the 2900 02:24:20,939 --> 02:24:22,560 mayor and other staff a way to bring 2901 02:24:22,560 --> 02:24:24,840 them together so that you know things 2902 02:24:24,840 --> 02:24:27,300 weren't you know operating independently 2903 02:24:27,300 --> 02:24:29,280 but that conversation was much better so 2904 02:24:29,280 --> 02:24:34,790 that was the the idea behind it yes 2905 02:24:34,800 --> 02:24:37,020 go ahead please so I think this is one 2906 02:24:37,020 --> 02:24:38,460 of those instances where the smaller 2907 02:24:38,460 --> 02:24:39,720 people don't get get as much 2908 02:24:39,720 --> 02:24:40,979 consideration just because they don't 2909 02:24:40,979 --> 02:24:43,500 have the capacity so as you said at 2910 02:24:43,500 --> 02:24:45,780 second hand this is only 34 that means 2911 02:24:45,780 --> 02:24:47,520 they have a larger thing and it's all 2912 02:24:47,520 --> 02:24:48,780 that funding in place I'm not really 2913 02:24:48,780 --> 02:24:51,000 sure questions to be asked 2914 02:24:51,000 --> 02:24:53,100 um so and I think as I understood it 2915 02:24:53,100 --> 02:24:54,600 those are questions that are going to be 2916 02:24:54,600 --> 02:24:57,000 asked so um 2917 02:24:57,000 --> 02:24:59,160 again I don't I you know it's I 2918 02:24:59,160 --> 02:25:00,600 understand but I think we're just like 2919 02:25:00,600 --> 02:25:02,819 shoving them in with that and again the 2920 02:25:02,819 --> 02:25:04,620 program that's already running Sikkim is 2921 02:25:04,620 --> 02:25:08,460 a very large program SCC is asking for a 2922 02:25:08,460 --> 02:25:10,560 skin Foundation that is asking for a lot 2923 02:25:10,560 --> 02:25:12,300 and they're like doing a whole 2924 02:25:12,300 --> 02:25:13,800 coordination process and how long is 2925 02:25:13,800 --> 02:25:16,080 that going to take so again I'm I'm in 2926 02:25:16,080 --> 02:25:17,640 favor of funding a program that's 2927 02:25:17,640 --> 02:25:19,500 actually feeding people 2928 02:25:19,500 --> 02:25:21,420 this Sunday 2929 02:25:21,420 --> 02:25:23,160 and the thought Sunday after that and 2930 02:25:23,160 --> 02:25:25,630 last Sunday 2931 02:25:25,640 --> 02:25:28,920 oh no I was just not anything and bring 2932 02:25:28,920 --> 02:25:32,340 it around and using again that that lens 2933 02:25:32,340 --> 02:25:35,280 of Equitable outpatient 2934 02:25:35,280 --> 02:25:37,140 location smaller 2935 02:25:37,140 --> 02:25:41,990 followers issues 2936 02:25:42,000 --> 02:25:44,700 yeah this isn't about scale at all it's 2937 02:25:44,700 --> 02:25:48,240 about duplication resources for me and 2938 02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:51,060 you know if we're not looking at this 2939 02:25:51,060 --> 02:25:52,500 big picture then we're not really 2940 02:25:52,500 --> 02:25:54,780 addressing or trying to solve a problem 2941 02:25:54,780 --> 02:25:56,580 in the appropriate way we're just 2942 02:25:56,580 --> 02:25:58,800 showing some money here and there and 2943 02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:01,680 return our investment and the 2944 02:26:01,680 --> 02:26:04,760 impact on people's lives will be 2945 02:26:04,760 --> 02:26:07,800 blunted rather than to the full extent 2946 02:26:07,800 --> 02:26:10,020 of what it can be and I think that's why 2947 02:26:10,020 --> 02:26:12,060 it's important that we look at this not 2948 02:26:12,060 --> 02:26:13,560 just oh we're going to feed somebody 2949 02:26:13,560 --> 02:26:19,260 this Sunday it's the case anyway and so you know we 2950 02:26:19,260 --> 02:26:21,380 need to look at this much bigger picture 2951 02:26:21,380 --> 02:26:33,889 than what we're currently doing 2952 02:26:33,899 --> 02:26:36,899 so are we looking to to allocate fifty 2953 02:26:36,899 --> 02:26:38,939 thousand dollars from the million 2954 02:26:38,939 --> 02:26:41,520 dollars to the Green Market and then 2955 02:26:41,520 --> 02:26:44,220 the balance we are located to the other 2956 02:26:44,220 --> 02:26:45,660 agencies 2957 02:26:45,660 --> 02:26:48,120 is 2958 02:26:48,120 --> 02:26:49,979 may you have them listed here as well 2959 02:26:49,979 --> 02:26:52,439 I'd still like to have a conversation 2960 02:26:52,439 --> 02:26:54,359 with 2961 02:26:54,359 --> 02:26:55,819 the Green Market 2962 02:26:55,819 --> 02:26:57,500 with 2963 02:26:57,500 --> 02:27:00,560 secular the 2964 02:27:00,560 --> 02:27:03,660 package with Clarkson the Capstone 2965 02:27:03,660 --> 02:27:08,160 project would take probably 90 days 2966 02:27:08,160 --> 02:27:12,410 that they've done before 2967 02:27:12,420 --> 02:27:16,220 again it's the coordinated effort 2968 02:27:16,220 --> 02:27:19,020 these applications have sat here for a 2969 02:27:19,020 --> 02:27:23,870 little while 2970 02:27:23,880 --> 02:27:27,800 sorry to you know it's 2971 02:27:27,800 --> 02:27:31,319 gonna let the council it's going to have 2972 02:27:31,319 --> 02:27:33,240 the final decision on this but it's how 2973 02:27:33,240 --> 02:27:35,520 do we get the most bang for the buck and 2974 02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:38,160 some of this is not a simple 2975 02:27:38,160 --> 02:27:40,740 straightforward manner Castaic have 2976 02:27:40,740 --> 02:27:44,150 ongoing conversations 2977 02:27:44,160 --> 02:27:45,780 point out there's a number of groups 2978 02:27:45,780 --> 02:27:48,359 that provide these services 2979 02:27:48,359 --> 02:27:51,960 some people are more aware of this 2980 02:27:51,960 --> 02:27:55,260 availability than others so I think some 2981 02:27:55,260 --> 02:27:57,720 people that are 2982 02:27:57,720 --> 02:28:00,540 doing well in terms of engaging with the 2983 02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:02,880 groups other people are not and how do 2984 02:28:02,880 --> 02:28:06,889 we do an education effort 2985 02:28:06,899 --> 02:28:08,700 getting leverage the money that's going 2986 02:28:08,700 --> 02:28:11,399 out into the community 2987 02:28:11,399 --> 02:28:14,160 provide the biggest impact that the 2988 02:28:14,160 --> 02:28:18,790 people who need it the most 2989 02:28:18,800 --> 02:28:21,840 so let me just get back up to this 2990 02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:23,220 Quarterfield so miss Quarterfield are 2991 02:28:23,220 --> 02:28:25,740 you looking so 2992 02:28:25,740 --> 02:28:27,899 allocate fifty thousand dollars from 2993 02:28:27,899 --> 02:28:31,020 this million dollars and then the 2994 02:28:31,020 --> 02:28:31,939 balance 2995 02:28:31,939 --> 02:28:35,160 both towards the other agencies yes I am 2996 02:28:35,160 --> 02:28:37,080 you know you were leading towards I am 2997 02:28:37,080 --> 02:28:40,020 and and see Mr colonies point then we 2998 02:28:40,020 --> 02:28:43,020 can just also talk to the county about 2999 02:28:43,020 --> 02:28:45,420 um about what they're doing and how that 3000 02:28:45,420 --> 02:28:48,420 we can work together on that and you 3001 02:28:48,420 --> 02:28:50,100 know um in the Merit so that you know 3002 02:28:50,100 --> 02:28:51,600 it's going to be like another 90 days 3003 02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:53,100 night again that it's been in this one 3004 02:28:53,100 --> 02:28:54,060 so 3005 02:28:54,060 --> 02:28:55,979 um I don't I just think that we could 3006 02:28:55,979 --> 02:28:58,500 like against a smaller agency and we're 3007 02:28:58,500 --> 02:29:01,920 talking about equity and trying to 3008 02:29:01,920 --> 02:29:03,660 um get them to be able to do what they 3009 02:29:03,660 --> 02:29:05,640 do while these other conversations are 3010 02:29:05,640 --> 02:29:07,200 taking place when maybe they can still 3011 02:29:07,200 --> 02:29:09,660 include them in that as well because 3012 02:29:09,660 --> 02:29:11,340 they're asking for a much lesser amount 3013 02:29:11,340 --> 02:29:13,439 than these larger agencies I don't think 3014 02:29:13,439 --> 02:29:15,359 that giving the meat market fifty 3015 02:29:15,359 --> 02:29:17,340 thousand dollars excludes in some of 3016 02:29:17,340 --> 02:29:19,260 those conversations but I do believe it 3017 02:29:19,260 --> 02:29:20,640 allows them to continue to do the work 3018 02:29:20,640 --> 02:29:21,720 that they're doing 3019 02:29:21,720 --> 02:29:23,939 currently and making sure that um people 3020 02:29:23,939 --> 02:29:26,460 are getting amazing they should have 3021 02:29:26,460 --> 02:29:28,859 asked for a lot more money but uh but 3022 02:29:28,859 --> 02:29:30,300 they didn't so I don't think it excludes 3023 02:29:30,300 --> 02:29:31,920 them from those conversations however I 3024 02:29:31,920 --> 02:29:34,500 think it gives them the ability to um to 3025 02:29:34,500 --> 02:29:35,640 continue to do the work that they're 3026 02:29:35,640 --> 02:29:37,140 doing which I think is pretty important 3027 02:29:37,140 --> 02:29:39,000 work in terms of feeding people making 3028 02:29:39,000 --> 02:29:41,580 sure they um you know we 3029 02:29:41,580 --> 02:29:43,800 um I'm down there every second Sunday so 3030 02:29:43,800 --> 02:29:46,080 I do see the the 3031 02:29:46,080 --> 02:29:48,240 we actually program 3032 02:29:48,240 --> 02:29:50,460 as it as it um as it's done where 3033 02:29:50,460 --> 02:29:51,840 they're packing the boxes and delivering 3034 02:29:51,840 --> 02:29:53,819 so it's not something to me that 3035 02:29:53,819 --> 02:29:55,920 somebody just told me was like I've seen 3036 02:29:55,920 --> 02:29:57,060 it happen 3037 02:29:57,060 --> 02:30:00,479 so again I do yes so that's a long 3038 02:30:00,479 --> 02:30:02,520 answer to your question yes I do say 3039 02:30:02,520 --> 02:30:04,680 that we allocate the 50 000 at this time 3040 02:30:04,680 --> 02:30:09,180 and the balance will go towards agencies 3041 02:30:09,180 --> 02:30:11,220 yeah so logically it just doesn't make 3042 02:30:11,220 --> 02:30:13,680 any sense you're asking us as a city 3043 02:30:13,680 --> 02:30:16,080 council to make sure that we're not 3044 02:30:16,080 --> 02:30:18,000 duplicating Resources with the county 3045 02:30:18,000 --> 02:30:20,780 yet we want to do the same with the 3046 02:30:20,780 --> 02:30:23,580 organizations we're looking at 3047 02:30:23,580 --> 02:30:27,420 again we learn about the most people 3048 02:30:27,420 --> 02:30:30,060 highest level we possibly can 3049 02:30:30,060 --> 02:30:33,000 and if we're duplicating resources we're 3050 02:30:33,000 --> 02:30:34,680 not doing this 3051 02:30:34,680 --> 02:30:36,840 and to take a little bit of time to 3052 02:30:36,840 --> 02:30:39,000 figure this out and get it right will 3053 02:30:39,000 --> 02:30:40,920 impact the most people in the most 3054 02:30:40,920 --> 02:30:46,190 people's lives to the greatest extent 3055 02:30:46,200 --> 02:30:52,270 oh I will go to uh 3056 02:30:52,280 --> 02:30:56,160 families that are being sent meals each 3057 02:30:56,160 --> 02:30:58,740 Sunday 20 and up that would only be for 3058 02:30:58,740 --> 02:31:01,319 a year under this 50 000 and are there 3059 02:31:01,319 --> 02:31:03,540 any administrative costs to that are 3060 02:31:03,540 --> 02:31:05,520 people putting money in for gas for 3061 02:31:05,520 --> 02:31:07,319 delivering this is that a volunteer 3062 02:31:07,319 --> 02:31:08,640 basis 3063 02:31:08,640 --> 02:31:11,280 um is and again is it something that can 3064 02:31:11,280 --> 02:31:13,439 be worked through sitcom or or even the 3065 02:31:13,439 --> 02:31:15,060 City Mission or something that that 3066 02:31:15,060 --> 02:31:19,620 these individuals are getting their meals each Sunday well it's not 3067 02:31:19,620 --> 02:31:21,960 meals it's fresh toast so it's different 3068 02:31:21,960 --> 02:31:24,420 than having meal delivery it could be 3069 02:31:24,420 --> 02:31:27,300 for beef there or you know whatever they 3070 02:31:27,300 --> 02:31:28,620 could spend their money on I mean 3071 02:31:28,620 --> 02:31:30,479 there's fresh beef or frozen beef or 3072 02:31:30,479 --> 02:31:33,319 things like that so it could be the real 3073 02:31:33,319 --> 02:31:35,760 and are there it's not already made meal 3074 02:31:35,760 --> 02:31:36,780 that they're having delivered though 3075 02:31:36,780 --> 02:31:38,580 well there aren't many ready-made meals 3076 02:31:38,580 --> 02:31:41,580 available there through uh Taj Mahal and 3077 02:31:41,580 --> 02:31:43,500 other places you know that that's not 3078 02:31:43,500 --> 02:31:45,840 part of the food last program so it's 3079 02:31:45,840 --> 02:31:50,450 just fresh produce only it's fast food 3080 02:31:50,460 --> 02:31:54,250 foreign 3081 02:31:54,260 --> 02:31:56,819 so again are there any 3082 02:31:56,819 --> 02:32:01,140 that's just to deliver 3083 02:32:01,140 --> 02:32:02,760 you know help me understand a little bit 3084 02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:05,580 better about how those spend this fifty 3085 02:32:05,580 --> 02:32:07,160 thousand dollars 3086 02:32:07,160 --> 02:32:09,300 well I don't have that breakdown for you 3087 02:32:09,300 --> 02:32:11,700 I'm certainly connected 3088 02:32:11,700 --> 02:32:14,700 yeah I mean certainly before we go to 3089 02:32:14,700 --> 02:32:16,260 contract we would have to understand the 3090 02:32:16,260 --> 02:32:18,479 scope of services and the amounts that 3091 02:32:18,479 --> 02:32:24,190 are really bad for sure 3092 02:32:24,200 --> 02:32:27,660 are you in support of 3093 02:32:27,660 --> 02:32:30,180 the 50 000 remarket on the balance go 3094 02:32:30,180 --> 02:32:35,990 towards the other Organization no no 3095 02:32:36,000 --> 02:32:38,939 okay Miss tutorial are you in support of 3096 02:32:38,939 --> 02:32:46,010 what is on the table no beside them 3097 02:32:46,020 --> 02:32:50,520 I just think that again I have to 3098 02:32:50,520 --> 02:32:52,100 expect 3099 02:32:52,100 --> 02:32:55,380 the staff's vision for how they picked 3100 02:32:55,380 --> 02:32:58,620 these four applications out of the 3101 02:32:58,620 --> 02:33:01,859 number of applications that we got 3102 02:33:01,859 --> 02:33:04,979 food related kinds of things 3103 02:33:04,979 --> 02:33:07,260 so I think I need a little more 3104 02:33:07,260 --> 02:33:10,319 information on this particular one I 3105 02:33:10,319 --> 02:33:11,819 don't think that we want to be getting 3106 02:33:11,819 --> 02:33:13,920 another application 3107 02:33:13,920 --> 02:33:16,439 um so I know that that was part of the 3108 02:33:16,439 --> 02:33:18,359 email that we received last week was 3109 02:33:18,359 --> 02:33:20,280 should they be you know submitting a new 3110 02:33:20,280 --> 02:33:22,859 application I I guess I would say no 3111 02:33:22,859 --> 02:33:25,800 because we certainly have enough uh you 3112 02:33:25,800 --> 02:33:28,140 know in the how many million was it that 3113 02:33:28,140 --> 02:33:30,780 we got requested something like 70 3114 02:33:30,780 --> 02:33:33,000 million or 80 million dollars that we 3115 02:33:33,000 --> 02:33:34,920 were asked for and we don't have that 3116 02:33:34,920 --> 02:33:38,780 money so we want to reopen applications 3117 02:33:38,780 --> 02:33:43,140 but I just it sounds like the staff is 3118 02:33:43,140 --> 02:33:46,859 proposing a million dollars on all of 3119 02:33:46,859 --> 02:33:49,220 this to look at Food security 3120 02:33:49,220 --> 02:33:52,140 and it may be that the Green Market gets 3121 02:33:52,140 --> 02:33:54,000 a piece of that and it may not be I 3122 02:33:54,000 --> 02:33:55,800 think right now the Green Market is a 3123 02:33:55,800 --> 02:33:57,300 piece of that I don't know if it's for 3124 02:33:57,300 --> 02:34:01,380 50 or not again I think even to your 3125 02:34:01,380 --> 02:34:04,680 logic sccc is only asking for a hundred 3126 02:34:04,680 --> 02:34:06,060 and something thousand dollars a hundred 3127 02:34:06,060 --> 02:34:08,520 thousand 3128 02:34:08,520 --> 02:34:11,760 it's like 105 000 which is also not a 3129 02:34:11,760 --> 02:34:13,200 lot of money and I know that they're 3130 02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:15,899 directly serving you know a number of us 3131 02:34:15,899 --> 02:34:18,120 that that was a 3132 02:34:18,120 --> 02:34:19,979 King forth from the faculty it's 3133 02:34:19,979 --> 02:34:22,439 volunteers with faculty and students 3134 02:34:22,439 --> 02:34:23,100 student 3135 02:34:23,100 --> 02:34:25,380 um they you know it's it's a big 3136 02:34:25,380 --> 02:34:27,479 operation now because those students 3137 02:34:27,479 --> 02:34:29,040 need food 3138 02:34:29,040 --> 02:34:31,260 um and I can vouch for that based on my 3139 02:34:31,260 --> 02:34:33,060 experience working there 3140 02:34:33,060 --> 02:34:36,840 um so I think I'd rather either say 3141 02:34:36,840 --> 02:34:38,640 dollars 3142 02:34:38,640 --> 02:34:40,620 issue 3143 02:34:40,620 --> 02:34:43,319 okay bring people together to try to 3144 02:34:43,319 --> 02:34:44,760 work together and collaborate around 3145 02:34:44,760 --> 02:34:48,950 this issue 3146 02:34:48,960 --> 02:34:51,479 the party are you in support of the 50 3147 02:34:51,479 --> 02:34:53,160 000 degree market and the balance 3148 02:34:53,160 --> 02:34:55,319 towards the other agencies 3149 02:34:55,319 --> 02:34:57,479 yes I am and I think we just have to 3150 02:34:57,479 --> 02:34:59,520 like we're talking about feeding people 3151 02:34:59,520 --> 02:35:01,920 and we're talking about you know on one 3152 02:35:01,920 --> 02:35:03,540 hand we're saying that food insecurity 3153 02:35:03,540 --> 02:35:05,880 we understand that it is an issue in the 3154 02:35:05,880 --> 02:35:07,140 community 3155 02:35:07,140 --> 02:35:10,020 um and we know that 3156 02:35:10,020 --> 02:35:13,080 in the grand scheme of things 3157 02:35:13,080 --> 02:35:15,180 it's a win-win right because fifty 3158 02:35:15,180 --> 02:35:18,540 thousand dollars isn't you know a large 3159 02:35:18,540 --> 02:35:21,960 percentage of the money required 3160 02:35:21,960 --> 02:35:24,540 somebody having some food is a really 3161 02:35:24,540 --> 02:35:26,819 large percentage of their livelihood so 3162 02:35:26,819 --> 02:35:28,740 let's not 3163 02:35:28,740 --> 02:35:31,020 get so over analytical that we're not 3164 02:35:31,020 --> 02:35:33,780 taking a a quick one where we can get 3165 02:35:33,780 --> 02:35:36,120 one and I don't think that this 3166 02:35:36,120 --> 02:35:38,340 moving this fifty thousand dollars right 3167 02:35:38,340 --> 02:35:42,560 now in anyone she performed you know uh 3168 02:35:42,560 --> 02:35:45,120 prevents us from doing 3169 02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:47,760 um you know the other work talked about 3170 02:35:47,760 --> 02:35:50,100 as far as uh collaborating and I think 3171 02:35:50,100 --> 02:35:51,660 that that's a great thing but I guess 3172 02:35:51,660 --> 02:35:55,740 and absolutely 110 percent in favor of 3173 02:35:55,740 --> 02:35:59,819 if it's 50 000 degree Market 3174 02:35:59,819 --> 02:36:02,280 Mr Williams I have no issue where 3175 02:36:02,280 --> 02:36:03,840 they're potentially taking out fifty 3176 02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:04,979 thousand dollars and getting into the 3177 02:36:04,979 --> 02:36:05,760 room 3178 02:36:05,760 --> 02:36:07,439 at the balance wheel towards the other 3179 02:36:07,439 --> 02:36:10,510 agency which is 3180 02:36:10,520 --> 02:36:14,160 uh just in terms of the council's 3181 02:36:14,160 --> 02:36:16,080 overall game plan here even if you agree 3182 02:36:16,080 --> 02:36:18,899 on all these things tonight 3183 02:36:18,899 --> 02:36:21,960 it's not going to happen tomorrow 3184 02:36:21,960 --> 02:36:24,180 formally act on it 3185 02:36:24,180 --> 02:36:27,240 put a contract in place with these can 3186 02:36:27,240 --> 02:36:29,340 take several weeks 3187 02:36:29,340 --> 02:36:32,520 and so we made this recommendation for a 3188 02:36:32,520 --> 02:36:34,800 million dollars there I don't see where 3189 02:36:34,800 --> 02:36:37,680 I understand your strong feelings to 3190 02:36:37,680 --> 02:36:39,720 support the Green Market I like the 3191 02:36:39,720 --> 02:36:40,760 Green Market 3192 02:36:40,760 --> 02:36:43,740 it's a good deal I don't know if they 3193 02:36:43,740 --> 02:36:45,840 should get 48 3194 02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:47,040 000 or 15 3195 02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:50,100 000 uh but 3196 02:36:50,100 --> 02:36:53,880 what I've submitted is the timing the 3197 02:36:53,880 --> 02:36:55,439 reality is before we can do anything 3198 02:36:55,439 --> 02:36:58,500 let's have some discussions with the 3199 02:36:58,500 --> 02:37:01,740 other partners to see what we can 3200 02:37:01,740 --> 02:37:04,620 Implement with again everybody 3201 02:37:04,620 --> 02:37:06,960 participating the Green Market May today 3202 02:37:06,960 --> 02:37:10,080 say they don't need fifty thousand maybe 3203 02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:13,680 they need more maybe they need less but 3204 02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:16,280 so that it complements some of the other 3205 02:37:16,280 --> 02:37:20,110 activities that are out there 3206 02:37:20,120 --> 02:37:22,859 can come to an agreement that we can all 3207 02:37:22,859 --> 02:37:28,870 support 3208 02:37:28,880 --> 02:37:31,080 it's like 3209 02:37:31,080 --> 02:37:33,180 six weeks eight weeks by the time the 3210 02:37:33,180 --> 02:37:35,100 council approves it to get a contract in 3211 02:37:35,100 --> 02:37:37,439 place and sign on the other side get it 3212 02:37:37,439 --> 02:37:39,440 back from my signature 3213 02:37:39,440 --> 02:37:42,200 [Music] 3214 02:37:42,200 --> 02:37:44,580 so I'm just seeing clarification and 3215 02:37:44,580 --> 02:37:47,819 just I I apologize if it's redundant you 3216 02:37:47,819 --> 02:37:49,740 are all asking us to wait so you can 3217 02:37:49,740 --> 02:37:53,210 gather more information 3218 02:37:53,220 --> 02:37:54,840 your 3219 02:37:54,840 --> 02:37:57,479 consensus here seems to be we're in 3220 02:37:57,479 --> 02:38:01,670 agreement of the million dollar level 3221 02:38:01,680 --> 02:38:03,960 what I'm saying is let's have some 3222 02:38:03,960 --> 02:38:05,760 discussion on the green markets 3223 02:38:05,760 --> 02:38:09,180 component out of that whether it's 50 3224 02:38:09,180 --> 02:38:12,180 000 whether it's more or less but it 3225 02:38:12,180 --> 02:38:13,979 actually 3226 02:38:13,979 --> 02:38:18,650 is that we're trying to achieve 3227 02:38:18,660 --> 02:38:20,819 so if I had I mean a degree Market as 3228 02:38:20,819 --> 02:38:22,140 being a good partnering the city is 3229 02:38:22,140 --> 02:38:24,080 Schenectady so I don't have an objection 3230 02:38:24,080 --> 02:38:26,280 allocating fifty thousand dollars to the 3231 02:38:26,280 --> 02:38:30,120 free market and then 950 000 so the 3232 02:38:30,120 --> 02:38:32,399 additional agency and 3233 02:38:32,399 --> 02:38:34,520 foreign 3234 02:38:34,520 --> 02:38:36,600 discussion with these agencies you know 3235 02:38:36,600 --> 02:38:38,180 we can partner together 3236 02:38:38,180 --> 02:38:40,319 to bring this service so that will keep 3237 02:38:40,319 --> 02:38:42,479 those connected 3238 02:38:42,479 --> 02:38:46,680 so I think we have a majority on this entire 3239 02:38:46,680 --> 02:38:51,730 One Million Dollar application 3240 02:38:51,740 --> 02:38:54,180 for priority you break we're going to 3241 02:38:54,180 --> 02:38:55,920 break out the Green Market and then and 3242 02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:59,100 patent the rest as well 3243 02:38:59,100 --> 02:39:02,819 is that what you're suggestions just 3244 02:39:02,819 --> 02:39:04,560 when you say break it out so they 3245 02:39:04,560 --> 02:39:07,020 wouldn't even be considered with anyone 3246 02:39:07,020 --> 02:39:20,710 else to share in the 900 3247 02:39:20,720 --> 02:39:23,460 that's what they asked for So my answer 3248 02:39:23,460 --> 02:39:24,899 to that question is given them with the 3249 02:39:24,899 --> 02:39:25,979 rest for 3250 02:39:25,979 --> 02:39:28,140 so we want them to collaborate with 3251 02:39:28,140 --> 02:39:29,460 everyone else because there might be 3252 02:39:29,460 --> 02:39:31,620 more for them or maybe they ask for 50 3253 02:39:31,620 --> 02:39:33,120 because that was the original Grant 3254 02:39:33,120 --> 02:39:35,580 maybe it's only Thursday but if I leave 3255 02:39:35,580 --> 02:39:37,800 thousand but by leaving them in with 3256 02:39:37,800 --> 02:39:39,479 that million they can work together with 3257 02:39:39,479 --> 02:39:41,280 the other agencies to maybe provide them 3258 02:39:41,280 --> 02:39:42,479 longer 3259 02:39:42,479 --> 02:39:43,920 I don't know 3260 02:39:43,920 --> 02:39:48,020 yes Patrick well just and Mr Williams 3261 02:39:48,020 --> 02:39:50,819 sort of 3262 02:39:50,819 --> 02:39:52,979 for example concern for the hungry which 3263 02:39:52,979 --> 02:39:55,700 is also not part of this million dollars 3264 02:39:55,700 --> 02:39:59,220 also I believe does a similar service 3265 02:39:59,220 --> 02:40:01,020 and they've been well established in 3266 02:40:01,020 --> 02:40:03,660 this community for many years but I 3267 02:40:03,660 --> 02:40:05,580 think that's pretty I'm pretty sure that 3268 02:40:05,580 --> 02:40:08,399 they deliver food to the people who need 3269 02:40:08,399 --> 02:40:10,680 the food 3270 02:40:10,680 --> 02:40:14,760 right so again now we're I know concern 3271 02:40:14,760 --> 02:40:17,580 for the hungry is not one of these 3272 02:40:17,580 --> 02:40:19,740 part of this million dollars but they're 3273 02:40:19,740 --> 02:40:22,020 doing the same service 3274 02:40:22,020 --> 02:40:22,920 um 3275 02:40:22,920 --> 02:40:24,720 I think again we don't have all the 3276 02:40:24,720 --> 02:40:26,640 information about the green markets 3277 02:40:26,640 --> 02:40:28,080 program 3278 02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:29,580 um 3279 02:40:29,580 --> 02:40:31,020 I have to go back and look location 3280 02:40:31,020 --> 02:40:36,050 again 3281 02:40:36,060 --> 02:40:37,380 hungry 3282 02:40:37,380 --> 02:40:38,760 but I think they've been in this 3283 02:40:38,760 --> 02:40:41,100 community for 3284 02:40:41,100 --> 02:40:42,300 decades 3285 02:40:42,300 --> 02:40:44,939 uh doing the search for the hungry is 3286 02:40:44,939 --> 02:40:46,859 asking for money for transportation oh 3287 02:40:46,859 --> 02:40:48,540 that's right to bring the people to the 3288 02:40:48,540 --> 02:40:51,720 food campus yes that's right 3289 02:40:51,720 --> 02:40:53,399 they're not delivering the food to the 3290 02:40:53,399 --> 02:40:54,960 people that bring the people to the food 3291 02:40:54,960 --> 02:40:59,889 panels correct 3292 02:40:59,899 --> 02:41:03,000 just saying it's like apples are more 3293 02:41:03,000 --> 02:41:05,399 environment 3294 02:41:05,399 --> 02:41:08,399 still where I began okay 3295 02:41:08,399 --> 02:41:10,080 so I think we have a majority in terms 3296 02:41:10,080 --> 02:41:11,700 of allocating fifty thousand dollars to 3297 02:41:11,700 --> 02:41:14,100 degree markets and 950 000 so the other 3298 02:41:14,100 --> 02:41:18,110 agencies 3299 02:41:18,120 --> 02:41:20,819 that may have mention that until people 3300 02:41:20,819 --> 02:41:22,859 engaged to stop and engage is able to 3301 02:41:22,859 --> 02:41:24,960 see you to work together about how they 3302 02:41:24,960 --> 02:41:26,580 could provide and service is that kind 3303 02:41:26,580 --> 02:41:29,100 of a full setup 3304 02:41:29,100 --> 02:41:30,960 I was looking to do it collectively 3305 02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:34,580 under the million dollars now again 3306 02:41:34,580 --> 02:41:37,020 I assume the council is going to pass a 3307 02:41:37,020 --> 02:41:38,760 resolution for fifty thousand dollars 3308 02:41:38,760 --> 02:41:40,560 for the Green Market 3309 02:41:40,560 --> 02:41:42,300 and nine hundred and fifty thousand 3310 02:41:42,300 --> 02:41:46,279 dollars for the other organizations 3311 02:41:46,279 --> 02:41:49,279 yes 3312 02:41:49,279 --> 02:41:52,160 that's what I think is leading so 3313 02:41:52,160 --> 02:41:56,160 well okay I I mean I think we should be 3314 02:41:56,160 --> 02:41:57,720 examining what the other food 3315 02:41:57,720 --> 02:42:00,300 organizations are maybe again because 3316 02:42:00,300 --> 02:42:03,359 sitcom is so large and does work 3317 02:42:03,359 --> 02:42:05,760 collaboratively with so many other 3318 02:42:05,760 --> 02:42:07,560 partners in the city that they probably 3319 02:42:07,560 --> 02:42:11,809 have in the past 3320 02:42:11,819 --> 02:42:13,319 six hundred thousand dollars to the 3321 02:42:13,319 --> 02:42:14,760 Schenectady Foundation to bring people 3322 02:42:14,760 --> 02:42:18,960 to a table is a lot of money again they 3323 02:42:18,960 --> 02:42:20,580 do great work and I know this is one of 3324 02:42:20,580 --> 02:42:22,740 their major thrusts in their funding 3325 02:42:22,740 --> 02:42:25,969 this year but 3326 02:42:25,979 --> 02:42:29,220 okay I'm I'm in favor of 950 000 3327 02:42:29,220 --> 02:42:33,720 generally to the support of insecurity 3328 02:42:33,720 --> 02:42:35,460 go ahead thank you for the purpose of 3329 02:42:35,460 --> 02:42:36,300 clarity 3330 02:42:36,300 --> 02:42:36,920 um 3331 02:42:36,920 --> 02:42:39,120 obviously there are a host of projects 3332 02:42:39,120 --> 02:42:40,979 that the city council is considering and 3333 02:42:40,979 --> 02:42:42,840 then within each project there may be 3334 02:42:42,840 --> 02:42:45,020 different players 3335 02:42:45,020 --> 02:42:47,460 in drafting legislation at a future 3336 02:42:47,460 --> 02:42:49,319 point in time there's I see really two 3337 02:42:49,319 --> 02:42:51,720 pieces to this there's the allocation of 3338 02:42:51,720 --> 02:42:53,580 funds for a particular project and then 3339 02:42:53,580 --> 02:42:55,040 within that project 3340 02:42:55,040 --> 02:42:57,779 authorizing a contract with particular 3341 02:42:57,779 --> 02:43:00,479 entities which is obviously easy with 3342 02:43:00,479 --> 02:43:02,340 Green Market right fifty thousand 3343 02:43:02,340 --> 02:43:06,000 dollars presumably with the 950 000 for 3344 02:43:06,000 --> 02:43:07,920 the remainder of that project it'd be 3345 02:43:07,920 --> 02:43:09,600 more difficult obviously to determine 3346 02:43:09,600 --> 02:43:11,939 who gets what and I understand obviously 3347 02:43:11,939 --> 02:43:13,859 the mayor said part of this is obviously 3348 02:43:13,859 --> 02:43:16,979 speaking to the different entities to 3349 02:43:16,979 --> 02:43:18,960 figure out who's going to do what and 3350 02:43:18,960 --> 02:43:20,640 you know better determine how the 3351 02:43:20,640 --> 02:43:22,439 funding should be broken out 3352 02:43:22,439 --> 02:43:25,500 but to be mindful of allocating funds 3353 02:43:25,500 --> 02:43:27,420 and then also authorizing a contract 3354 02:43:27,420 --> 02:43:29,100 with a particular entity 3355 02:43:29,100 --> 02:43:31,500 I think that's the intent this will make 3356 02:43:31,500 --> 02:43:32,520 them 3357 02:43:32,520 --> 02:43:37,500 authorizing the fund and authorizing the allocation for a 3358 02:43:37,500 --> 02:43:39,420 particular project and then secondary 3359 02:43:39,420 --> 02:43:41,279 authorizing the contract with a 3360 02:43:41,279 --> 02:43:43,200 particular entity in the same resolution 3361 02:43:43,200 --> 02:43:46,439 yes right yes thank you go ahead just as 3362 02:43:46,439 --> 02:43:47,760 a point of clarification because the 3363 02:43:47,760 --> 02:43:49,080 contract will have to come back to us 3364 02:43:49,080 --> 02:43:50,760 anyway for the fifty thousand dollars 3365 02:43:50,760 --> 02:43:52,859 for the fifty thousand no not 3366 02:43:52,859 --> 02:43:54,660 necessarily if you're saying if you're 3367 02:43:54,660 --> 02:43:55,979 already saying 3368 02:43:55,979 --> 02:43:58,200 yeah we're going to give fifty thousand 3369 02:43:58,200 --> 02:44:00,240 dollars to the Green Market then you 3370 02:44:00,240 --> 02:44:02,340 would authorize you allocate fifty 3371 02:44:02,340 --> 02:44:03,840 thousand dollars in armpit funds to the 3372 02:44:03,840 --> 02:44:05,819 Green Market and authorize the mayor for 3373 02:44:05,819 --> 02:44:08,819 his designee to enter into an agreement 3374 02:44:08,819 --> 02:44:11,870 with the Green Market 3375 02:44:11,880 --> 02:44:15,660 for let's say 950 000 and part of that 3376 02:44:15,660 --> 02:44:17,399 is you know 3377 02:44:17,399 --> 02:44:18,660 figuring out how that's going to be 3378 02:44:18,660 --> 02:44:22,130 broken out right 3379 02:44:22,140 --> 02:44:26,150 because we're good about assets 3380 02:44:26,160 --> 02:44:29,220 sorry not as Is Us 3381 02:44:29,220 --> 02:44:32,819 a great majority of the council 3382 02:44:32,819 --> 02:44:35,479 support field 3383 02:44:35,479 --> 02:44:37,920 I'll just go I've taken up a lot of time 3384 02:44:37,920 --> 02:44:40,200 you have 3385 02:44:40,200 --> 02:44:42,960 oh something like committee 3386 02:44:42,960 --> 02:45:14,330 foreign 3387 02:45:14,340 --> 02:45:17,120 that's a very important project but 3388 02:45:17,120 --> 02:45:19,319 that was in within the mayor's 3389 02:45:19,319 --> 02:45:21,620 recommendations as well 3390 02:45:21,620 --> 02:45:24,000 and I think that it's really important 3391 02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:27,240 that we are being Equitable in our 3392 02:45:27,240 --> 02:45:30,240 application funds 3393 02:45:30,240 --> 02:45:33,000 project that definitely checks all of 3394 02:45:33,000 --> 02:45:34,800 those boxes and is extremely important 3395 02:45:34,800 --> 02:45:38,160 and I like to see them funded and be fun 3396 02:45:38,160 --> 02:45:41,100 to have their full requests for 3397 02:45:41,100 --> 02:45:44,269 application 3398 02:45:44,279 --> 02:45:46,680 open up a question on this item 3399 02:45:46,680 --> 02:45:49,380 go ahead please let's just contingent me 3400 02:45:49,380 --> 02:45:51,560 after that 3401 02:45:51,560 --> 02:45:53,640 pay my car too 3402 02:45:53,640 --> 02:45:55,380 um 3403 02:45:55,380 --> 02:45:58,680 their application has a number of 3404 02:45:58,680 --> 02:46:00,779 funding sources coming together so we're 3405 02:46:00,779 --> 02:46:02,340 looking to make sure everything is in 3406 02:46:02,340 --> 02:46:04,920 place so that the fact it can move ahead 3407 02:46:04,920 --> 02:46:06,540 the most recently under the council 3408 02:46:06,540 --> 02:46:10,140 approved pins to update those actual 3409 02:46:10,140 --> 02:46:14,990 project costs 3410 02:46:15,000 --> 02:46:17,819 yes as part of what the council recently 3411 02:46:17,819 --> 02:46:19,979 approved for the CBG funding they had a 3412 02:46:19,979 --> 02:46:22,439 tap coming in to do the feasibility work 3413 02:46:22,439 --> 02:46:24,779 and Architectural drugs to get 3414 02:46:24,779 --> 02:46:27,840 um just more updated cost estimates for 3415 02:46:27,840 --> 02:46:29,819 the work so it's really just contingent 3416 02:46:29,819 --> 02:46:32,279 on them getting that work done and then 3417 02:46:32,279 --> 02:46:34,080 also just seeing what other funding will 3418 02:46:34,080 --> 02:46:36,300 be leveraged for the project so we 3419 02:46:36,300 --> 02:46:37,859 wouldn't start spending this money on 3420 02:46:37,859 --> 02:46:39,840 the project until we knew we had enough 3421 02:46:39,840 --> 02:46:41,520 to complete it 3422 02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:44,540 so that's that's what the community is 3423 02:46:44,540 --> 02:46:47,220 so if I understand correctly that's 3424 02:46:47,220 --> 02:46:49,200 pretty much a contingency that we would 3425 02:46:49,200 --> 02:46:51,300 put with anyone right because yeah we 3426 02:46:51,300 --> 02:46:52,920 would want to make sure we complete a 3427 02:46:52,920 --> 02:46:55,859 project it's not just there's no special 3428 02:46:55,859 --> 02:47:06,830 language going into uh 3429 02:47:06,840 --> 02:47:09,359 the miracle and Craig there's other 3430 02:47:09,359 --> 02:47:11,520 potential sources that they 3431 02:47:11,520 --> 02:47:13,260 supposedly lined up for their convention 3432 02:47:13,260 --> 02:47:16,380 on each other we don't want to give a 3433 02:47:16,380 --> 02:47:18,840 million dollars for 3434 02:47:18,840 --> 02:47:22,020 a five million dollar project where it's 3435 02:47:22,020 --> 02:47:23,520 four million dollars short the building 3436 02:47:23,520 --> 02:47:25,920 still can't be used so that it's making 3437 02:47:25,920 --> 02:47:29,160 sure partners or table and all the money 3438 02:47:29,160 --> 02:47:32,460 is there based on what the council just 3439 02:47:32,460 --> 02:47:35,160 approved on these updated costs and 3440 02:47:35,160 --> 02:47:40,260 scope of work that is being prepared now 3441 02:47:40,260 --> 02:47:44,340 so so just so clarity 3442 02:47:44,340 --> 02:47:46,920 to your point there so like for example 3443 02:47:46,920 --> 02:47:49,140 we're talking earlier about 3444 02:47:49,140 --> 02:47:51,300 um I think it was second and they had 3445 02:47:51,300 --> 02:47:53,160 some other funding they were applying 3446 02:47:53,160 --> 02:47:55,859 for 600 000 or something and he was 3447 02:47:55,859 --> 02:47:57,359 saying that they had some other funding 3448 02:47:57,359 --> 02:47:58,979 that was lined up 3449 02:47:58,979 --> 02:47:59,700 um 3450 02:47:59,700 --> 02:48:02,340 to support their project as well so 3451 02:48:02,340 --> 02:48:04,560 right so this contingency would be the 3452 02:48:04,560 --> 02:48:05,700 same as that right that's what we're 3453 02:48:05,700 --> 02:48:08,210 saying 3454 02:48:08,220 --> 02:48:10,680 trying to serve a thousand families and 3455 02:48:10,680 --> 02:48:12,660 they say they've already got money to do 3456 02:48:12,660 --> 02:48:15,840 600 at least we're going to do the Gap 3457 02:48:15,840 --> 02:48:18,180 financing for 3458 02:48:18,180 --> 02:48:26,290 foreign 3459 02:48:26,300 --> 02:48:29,880 it's a little bit different for 3460 02:48:29,880 --> 02:48:33,960 services so if again we're trying to 3461 02:48:33,960 --> 02:48:37,200 serve a thousand families we only have 3462 02:48:37,200 --> 02:48:40,140 money for 950. 3463 02:48:40,140 --> 02:48:42,300 50 May 3464 02:48:42,300 --> 02:48:44,220 come up short 3465 02:48:44,220 --> 02:48:46,620 doing a building project we want to have 3466 02:48:46,620 --> 02:48:49,319 money to do the entire building we don't 3467 02:48:49,319 --> 02:48:51,120 want to get it all there we don't have 3468 02:48:51,120 --> 02:48:53,580 enough money for the roof so it all 3469 02:48:53,580 --> 02:48:56,040 leaks in and 3470 02:48:56,040 --> 02:48:57,779 not able to get a certificate of 3471 02:48:57,779 --> 02:48:59,300 occupancy 3472 02:48:59,300 --> 02:49:02,340 be able to open and provide the service 3473 02:49:02,340 --> 02:49:04,680 so there's a little bit of difference 3474 02:49:04,680 --> 02:49:06,720 where 3475 02:49:06,720 --> 02:49:09,479 based on the nature of the project in 3476 02:49:09,479 --> 02:49:11,160 the the product is what is the service 3477 02:49:11,160 --> 02:49:13,620 and one's an actual building right it's 3478 02:49:13,620 --> 02:49:14,880 like 3479 02:49:14,880 --> 02:49:17,340 if you were buying a car here we're not 3480 02:49:17,340 --> 02:49:18,420 going to buy a car where we get 3481 02:49:18,420 --> 02:49:22,570 everything except for tires 3482 02:49:22,580 --> 02:49:25,920 well again and so just so for for Mr 3483 02:49:25,920 --> 02:49:27,359 Farley 3484 02:49:27,359 --> 02:49:31,080 um they actually asked for 1.5 million 3485 02:49:31,080 --> 02:49:32,819 um the total cost of their project is 1 3486 02:49:32,819 --> 02:49:34,500 5 3487 02:49:34,500 --> 02:49:38,160 three so they're asking for 98.57 of 3488 02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:39,140 their project 3489 02:49:39,140 --> 02:49:42,060 as opposed to the sick and was asking 3490 02:49:42,060 --> 02:49:45,230 for um 3491 02:49:45,240 --> 02:49:46,680 so so 3492 02:49:46,680 --> 02:49:49,080 it was a huge difference well in terms 3493 02:49:49,080 --> 02:49:50,640 of in terms of what we're being asked to 3494 02:49:50,640 --> 02:49:52,920 do my question is really though 3495 02:49:52,920 --> 02:49:54,899 um based on what the mayor said so in 3496 02:49:54,899 --> 02:49:56,340 other words 3497 02:49:56,340 --> 02:49:58,859 it's a million I'm sorry we're we're 3498 02:49:58,859 --> 02:50:01,560 thinking about giving to Miracle on 3499 02:50:01,560 --> 02:50:03,300 Craig Street a million dollars I think 3500 02:50:03,300 --> 02:50:04,460 it was 3501 02:50:04,460 --> 02:50:06,420 a million 3502 02:50:06,420 --> 02:50:08,399 um but it sounds like we know that the 3503 02:50:08,399 --> 02:50:09,840 cost estimate is going to be updated 3504 02:50:09,840 --> 02:50:12,359 okay I know what I'm saying is so our 3505 02:50:12,359 --> 02:50:15,300 family Foundation Foundation Brown 3506 02:50:15,300 --> 02:50:17,819 Etc are all also coming to the table 3507 02:50:17,819 --> 02:50:19,859 with perhaps a million dollars well 3508 02:50:19,859 --> 02:50:21,359 that's where some will bring that one 3509 02:50:21,359 --> 02:50:24,600 thing please commit to a million dollars 3510 02:50:24,600 --> 02:50:26,220 um what we're saying is we're using 3511 02:50:26,220 --> 02:50:28,020 they're going to continue use that 3512 02:50:28,020 --> 02:50:30,660 million dollars to be able to say to 3513 02:50:30,660 --> 02:50:32,760 other funders such as even maybe 3514 02:50:32,760 --> 02:50:36,300 Metroplex or a private Foundation we 3515 02:50:36,300 --> 02:50:39,180 can dollars the project you know so will 3516 02:50:39,180 --> 02:50:41,760 you help us now to help leverage to to 3517 02:50:41,760 --> 02:50:44,399 get it fully funded okay have you had 3518 02:50:44,399 --> 02:50:47,819 those conversations yeah that they they 3519 02:50:47,819 --> 02:50:49,260 have already been working with the other 3520 02:50:49,260 --> 02:50:51,180 foundations and the other foundations 3521 02:50:51,180 --> 02:50:53,580 are also supportive which everyone 3522 02:50:53,580 --> 02:50:55,140 really just wants to see the updated 3523 02:50:55,140 --> 02:50:57,660 scope that cost estimate before they 3524 02:50:57,660 --> 02:51:00,540 make a decision on the funding right 3525 02:51:00,540 --> 02:51:03,500 but not us 3526 02:51:03,500 --> 02:51:06,439 ually 3527 02:51:06,439 --> 02:51:10,979 a million dollars towards the overall 3528 02:51:10,979 --> 02:51:13,859 again I hear that but what I'm saying is 3529 02:51:13,859 --> 02:51:16,740 it sounds like the other partners 3530 02:51:16,740 --> 02:51:19,200 haven't come to the table yet because 3531 02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:20,939 they're waiting for the scope of the 3532 02:51:20,939 --> 02:51:23,840 project well we're not also spending 3533 02:51:23,840 --> 02:51:25,859 we're also leading through the scene 3534 02:51:25,859 --> 02:51:27,000 we're just putting in a bank account 3535 02:51:27,000 --> 02:51:28,740 okay 3536 02:51:28,740 --> 02:51:30,720 we're putting the million dollars aside 3537 02:51:30,720 --> 02:51:33,140 yes yeah and we're not spending anything 3538 02:51:33,140 --> 02:51:35,240 [Music] 3539 02:51:35,240 --> 02:51:38,279 for many other millions they need so I 3540 02:51:38,279 --> 02:51:41,040 so Mr clearly I'm not I'm not proposing 3541 02:51:41,040 --> 02:51:42,960 that um we funded my million dollars I'm 3542 02:51:42,960 --> 02:51:47,050 the person that we fund them 3543 02:51:47,060 --> 02:51:49,560 yeah because and one way to make sure 3544 02:51:49,560 --> 02:51:51,660 that um that they'd have the money to do 3545 02:51:51,660 --> 02:51:54,060 the project is if we getting money so 3546 02:51:54,060 --> 02:51:55,859 that's really moment to make sure that's 3547 02:51:55,859 --> 02:51:58,380 what I'm supposed to be done okay 3548 02:51:58,380 --> 02:52:04,070 absolutely 3549 02:52:04,080 --> 02:52:05,939 any other question on this item in 3550 02:52:05,939 --> 02:52:08,160 regards to the proposed 1.5 million 3551 02:52:08,160 --> 02:52:10,500 dollars one day or are the mayor's 3552 02:52:10,500 --> 02:52:14,340 proposed funding of a million dollars 3553 02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:16,380 let us go back to you so if you're 3554 02:52:16,380 --> 02:52:19,319 talking about I am sorry I support the 3555 02:52:19,319 --> 02:52:21,060 1.5 million dollars 3556 02:52:21,060 --> 02:52:26,100 um I think that and I I think they've been working on this 3557 02:52:26,100 --> 02:52:27,979 project for about seven years 3558 02:52:27,979 --> 02:52:30,660 and I'd either like to wait and see what 3559 02:52:30,660 --> 02:52:33,479 the cost is going to be I don't want to 3560 02:52:33,479 --> 02:52:35,040 support them I mean I'm happy to do the 3561 02:52:35,040 --> 02:52:37,080 million dollars but I think we have a 3562 02:52:37,080 --> 02:52:39,600 lot more projects here that are also not 3563 02:52:39,600 --> 02:52:42,300 being fully funded and this is a project 3564 02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:44,700 that has not been able to make itself 3565 02:52:44,700 --> 02:52:48,660 happen for seven years with a great deal 3566 02:52:48,660 --> 02:52:50,399 of community support I might add 3567 02:52:50,399 --> 02:52:52,319 volunteerism 3568 02:52:52,319 --> 02:52:56,929 Etc so I 3569 02:52:56,939 --> 02:52:59,279 or something 3570 02:52:59,279 --> 02:53:02,760 go ahead please I have so we have to be 3571 02:53:02,760 --> 02:53:05,220 again we're talking about being 3572 02:53:05,220 --> 02:53:07,319 equitable 3573 02:53:07,319 --> 02:53:11,819 Miracle on Craig street is a Grassroots 3574 02:53:11,819 --> 02:53:15,359 organization with a very specific role 3575 02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:18,180 in mind who have been 3576 02:53:18,180 --> 02:53:20,399 selective because they also didn't just 3577 02:53:20,399 --> 02:53:23,279 weigh getting money into the building 3578 02:53:23,279 --> 02:53:27,540 they really for years were soliciting 3579 02:53:27,540 --> 02:53:29,340 Community feedback and making sure that 3580 02:53:29,340 --> 02:53:31,560 they operated with Integrity in the 3581 02:53:31,560 --> 02:53:34,380 process so guitar so I agree what you're 3582 02:53:34,380 --> 02:53:37,439 saying that it has been a lengthy amount 3583 02:53:37,439 --> 02:53:40,080 of time my point would be it was an 3584 02:53:40,080 --> 02:53:41,880 intentional and it's important that it's 3585 02:53:41,880 --> 02:53:43,200 anything about time because nothing like 3586 02:53:43,200 --> 02:53:45,779 that has happened so in Schenectady in 3587 02:53:45,779 --> 02:53:47,279 the way that they're trying to do it so 3588 02:53:47,279 --> 02:53:48,660 I don't think that we could really use 3589 02:53:48,660 --> 02:53:50,220 the same Matrix that we might use for 3590 02:53:50,220 --> 02:53:52,620 other places this is this is also 3591 02:53:52,620 --> 02:53:54,720 um one of the um 3592 02:53:54,720 --> 02:53:57,000 this would be the only 3593 02:53:57,000 --> 02:53:58,279 um 3594 02:53:58,279 --> 02:54:00,380 Community Center 3595 02:54:00,380 --> 02:54:03,779 in Hamilton Hill after the boys and 3596 02:54:03,779 --> 02:54:06,180 girls club with within respect to the 3597 02:54:06,180 --> 02:54:09,420 Arsenal which is another another Niche a 3598 02:54:09,420 --> 02:54:12,720 center bomb but after the boys and girls 3599 02:54:12,720 --> 02:54:16,439 club knew our community know the need 3600 02:54:16,439 --> 02:54:19,260 for American Credit Suite just increased 3601 02:54:19,260 --> 02:54:22,560 so that's why I'm saying that we need to 3602 02:54:22,560 --> 02:54:25,680 be Equitable and not just pay lip 3603 02:54:25,680 --> 02:54:27,720 service and Equity doesn't mean everyone 3604 02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:29,939 getting equal things it means people 3605 02:54:29,939 --> 02:54:32,160 getting what they need so careers 3606 02:54:32,160 --> 02:54:36,290 demonstrating the state 3607 02:54:36,300 --> 02:54:39,479 so it really is so in referencing what 3608 02:54:39,479 --> 02:54:40,920 the department of development campus 3609 02:54:40,920 --> 02:54:42,540 recommendation receiving a favorable 3610 02:54:42,540 --> 02:54:44,220 score of looking at the recommendation 3611 02:54:44,220 --> 02:54:46,020 that came into the advisory panel and 3612 02:54:46,020 --> 02:54:48,300 ranked within the middle of those list 3613 02:54:48,300 --> 02:54:50,520 of applications building on top of what 3614 02:54:50,520 --> 02:54:53,040 Mr Farley already highlighted 3615 02:54:53,040 --> 02:54:55,319 can pause the fact that I haven't had 3616 02:54:55,319 --> 02:54:56,819 the same local experience as other 3617 02:54:56,819 --> 02:54:58,680 council members with this project but 3618 02:54:58,680 --> 02:55:01,500 for me personally I am I want to step 3619 02:55:01,500 --> 02:55:11,769 with Mr Farley and I'm a funding them 3620 02:55:11,779 --> 02:55:16,620 I must always do it again 3621 02:55:16,620 --> 02:55:19,979 in terms of resources we are repeating 3622 02:55:19,979 --> 02:55:23,520 resources there is the Hamilton Hill 3623 02:55:23,520 --> 02:55:25,200 Arts Center and granted they have a 3624 02:55:25,200 --> 02:55:27,600 special Niche there's the boys and girls 3625 02:55:27,600 --> 02:55:30,420 club which is right across the bridge 3626 02:55:30,420 --> 02:55:33,000 that's the I think the school is looking 3627 02:55:33,000 --> 02:55:34,819 to put some stuff in there from 3628 02:55:34,819 --> 02:55:38,510 Rumblings I'm here 3629 02:55:38,520 --> 02:55:40,740 be a better use of resources in my 3630 02:55:40,740 --> 02:55:43,439 opinion or some sort of shuttle service 3631 02:55:43,439 --> 02:55:46,080 to make sure the kids get to where they 3632 02:55:46,080 --> 02:55:49,800 need to to get what they need in a safe 3633 02:55:49,800 --> 02:55:51,779 Manner and if we're going to talk about 3634 02:55:51,779 --> 02:55:53,040 equity 3635 02:55:53,040 --> 02:55:54,840 you want to talk about Equity all right 3636 02:55:54,840 --> 02:55:57,600 we'll talk about the north side 3637 02:55:57,600 --> 02:56:00,300 one of our most diverse neighborhoods in 3638 02:56:00,300 --> 02:56:03,420 the community and there's not anything 3639 02:56:03,420 --> 02:56:05,040 here for them 3640 02:56:05,040 --> 02:56:06,540 so 3641 02:56:06,540 --> 02:56:07,439 um 3642 02:56:07,439 --> 02:56:10,080 I certainly 3643 02:56:10,080 --> 02:56:13,580 think there's stuff that's needed but 3644 02:56:13,580 --> 02:56:16,319 when we look at how our resources are 3645 02:56:16,319 --> 02:56:18,899 used I think we have to be efficient and 3646 02:56:18,899 --> 02:56:22,500 effective because again we want to reach 3647 02:56:22,500 --> 02:56:25,020 many and impact as many people as we 3648 02:56:25,020 --> 02:56:27,240 possibly can 3649 02:56:27,240 --> 02:56:29,100 but you're voting no on the mayor's 3650 02:56:29,100 --> 02:56:33,240 proposal yes or I I don't oh okay 3651 02:56:33,240 --> 02:56:37,309 let's tutorial 3652 02:56:37,319 --> 02:56:42,130 um 3653 02:56:42,140 --> 02:56:44,399 because we can't get to all so we'll get 3654 02:56:44,399 --> 02:56:45,979 to as much as we can 3655 02:56:45,979 --> 02:56:49,340 so obviously keeping with the 3656 02:56:49,340 --> 02:56:51,420 mayor and the department of 3657 02:56:51,420 --> 02:56:54,420 development's proposal and contingent on 3658 02:56:54,420 --> 02:56:56,220 other funding 3659 02:56:56,220 --> 02:56:57,660 um 3660 02:56:57,660 --> 02:57:01,979 I'm considering that prior to what I'm 3661 02:57:01,979 --> 02:57:04,380 about to say as far as the program 3662 02:57:04,380 --> 02:57:07,319 itself and when they were in a few 3663 02:57:07,319 --> 02:57:12,110 months ago and putting 3664 02:57:12,120 --> 02:57:14,939 your child through a lot for money for 3665 02:57:14,939 --> 02:57:15,600 um 3666 02:57:15,600 --> 02:57:17,660 administrative costs 3667 02:57:17,660 --> 02:57:20,720 and again seven years into the project 3668 02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:23,760 and I admire what they're doing and then 3669 02:57:23,760 --> 02:57:26,939 again we past Boys and Girls Club and 3670 02:57:26,939 --> 02:57:29,700 we're talking about them making a safe 3671 02:57:29,700 --> 02:57:32,220 environment for everyone and a shuttle 3672 02:57:32,220 --> 02:57:34,020 service I think is a great idea I didn't 3673 02:57:34,020 --> 02:57:36,120 think of it so you just said that making 3674 02:57:36,120 --> 02:57:37,920 sure that all the programs that they're 3675 02:57:37,920 --> 02:57:39,479 running over there 3676 02:57:39,479 --> 02:57:41,520 and as far as the extra five hundred 3677 02:57:41,520 --> 02:57:43,979 thousand dollars now we we've already 3678 02:57:43,979 --> 02:57:46,319 said as Miss Patrick said I want to make 3679 02:57:46,319 --> 02:57:48,240 sure that 500 that money is there for 3680 02:57:48,240 --> 02:57:49,979 the two programs we already approved 3681 02:57:49,979 --> 02:57:51,899 that we talked of earlier so where's 3682 02:57:51,899 --> 02:57:53,640 this extra five hundred thousand dollars 3683 02:57:53,640 --> 02:57:55,680 coming from so now all of a sudden we're 3684 02:57:55,680 --> 02:57:57,420 bringing to the table some extra five 3685 02:57:57,420 --> 02:57:58,920 hundred thousand dollars that may have 3686 02:57:58,920 --> 02:58:03,420 to come out of the pool where's it 3687 02:58:03,420 --> 02:58:07,439 all right so so I am I am 3688 02:58:07,439 --> 02:58:09,960 um supporting the the mayor's Proposal 3689 02:58:09,960 --> 02:58:11,939 with the contingencies there and again 3690 02:58:11,939 --> 02:58:13,500 we have to get a contract and all 3691 02:58:13,500 --> 02:58:14,760 different kinds of information and 3692 02:58:14,760 --> 02:58:16,680 things and they may not be able to bring 3693 02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:19,439 them the rest of the amount to the table 3694 02:58:19,439 --> 02:58:21,660 um but I am not supporting 1.5 million 3695 02:58:21,660 --> 02:58:31,269 so you are supporting them yeah 3696 02:58:31,279 --> 02:58:35,700 it's like a contingency and have one one 3697 02:58:35,700 --> 02:58:37,920 million 250 000. 3698 02:58:37,920 --> 02:58:39,120 um because I know that they need a 3699 02:58:39,120 --> 02:58:40,859 little extra money so 3700 02:58:40,859 --> 02:58:42,899 um and I understand all the points that 3701 02:58:42,899 --> 02:58:46,140 are being uh around the table so 3702 02:58:46,140 --> 02:58:48,000 that would be my suggestion that I would 3703 02:58:48,000 --> 02:58:50,340 put forward can you repeat that for me 3704 02:58:50,340 --> 02:58:53,220 please but instead of 1.5 it's 1 million 3705 02:58:53,220 --> 02:58:56,389 250 000. 3706 02:58:56,399 --> 02:58:59,460 there's a hand up over here 3707 02:58:59,460 --> 02:59:02,420 so I think that we have to 3708 02:59:02,420 --> 02:59:05,640 be really careful about and and think 3709 02:59:05,640 --> 02:59:08,040 about why this money is entering our 3710 02:59:08,040 --> 02:59:09,060 city 3711 02:59:09,060 --> 02:59:12,779 um this is money that is tied to the 3712 02:59:12,779 --> 02:59:16,319 uh uh pandemic which all for all 3713 02:59:16,319 --> 02:59:18,720 accounts we know that certain 3714 02:59:18,720 --> 02:59:21,000 communities marginalized communities 3715 02:59:21,000 --> 02:59:23,640 such as the community that miracle and 3716 02:59:23,640 --> 02:59:25,819 country is operating in but 3717 02:59:25,819 --> 02:59:28,560 impacted far greater 3718 02:59:28,560 --> 02:59:30,240 than other communities 3719 02:59:30,240 --> 02:59:33,899 so I think that we are obligated to take 3720 02:59:33,899 --> 02:59:36,000 into those considerations when we talk 3721 02:59:36,000 --> 02:59:38,340 about where we need to allocate funding 3722 02:59:38,340 --> 02:59:40,620 if we're trying to be Equitable then the 3723 02:59:40,620 --> 02:59:42,240 work is already done for us and that's 3724 02:59:42,240 --> 02:59:44,640 how we know who has been impacted 3725 02:59:44,640 --> 02:59:48,180 negatively most and that project is in 3726 02:59:48,180 --> 02:59:50,399 the center of that community and that is 3727 02:59:50,399 --> 02:59:51,779 something I think that we all should be 3728 02:59:51,779 --> 02:59:54,420 really careful about as we're making our 3729 02:59:54,420 --> 02:59:57,830 decisions based around this 3730 02:59:57,840 --> 03:00:10,490 Hill 3731 03:00:10,500 --> 03:00:14,100 which are directly the communities 3732 03:00:14,100 --> 03:00:17,939 you're seeking it is and and the amount 3733 03:00:17,939 --> 03:00:21,380 of people in that neighborhood who fall 3734 03:00:21,380 --> 03:00:24,479 into what you just described 3735 03:00:24,479 --> 03:00:27,779 I would argue is larger than the 3736 03:00:27,779 --> 03:00:31,979 community you're talking about so I have 3737 03:00:31,979 --> 03:00:34,859 no problem reaching those people who are 3738 03:00:34,859 --> 03:00:37,620 impacted but let's be clear 3739 03:00:37,620 --> 03:00:42,060 that this neighborhood of the north side 3740 03:00:42,060 --> 03:00:43,260 I mean 3741 03:00:43,260 --> 03:00:46,020 they're directly the target from you're 3742 03:00:46,020 --> 03:00:48,540 talking about so I just just want to 3743 03:00:48,540 --> 03:00:51,060 push back slightly on that I get what 3744 03:00:51,060 --> 03:00:54,660 you're saying and uh but you know we got 3745 03:00:54,660 --> 03:00:57,060 to realize what we got the neighborhoods 3746 03:00:57,060 --> 03:00:59,700 right Mr motivation I just wanted to 3747 03:00:59,700 --> 03:01:01,680 share something please from a 3748 03:01:01,680 --> 03:01:03,240 development perspective and thinking 3749 03:01:03,240 --> 03:01:04,979 about the Frank Street Corridor and just 3750 03:01:04,979 --> 03:01:07,260 the fact that this is a vacant huge 3751 03:01:07,260 --> 03:01:09,779 parcel that is on that Corridor that now 3752 03:01:09,779 --> 03:01:11,880 is on the historic register that 3753 03:01:11,880 --> 03:01:14,640 ultimately we this city is going to be 3754 03:01:14,640 --> 03:01:16,560 responsible for finding a productive use 3755 03:01:16,560 --> 03:01:18,180 of this bill 3756 03:01:18,180 --> 03:01:20,040 um so I just I'm putting that out there 3757 03:01:20,040 --> 03:01:22,260 as you know it's not going to go away we 3758 03:01:22,260 --> 03:01:23,939 need to figure out some sort of solution 3759 03:01:23,939 --> 03:01:26,100 for this building that's a massive 3760 03:01:26,100 --> 03:01:29,040 undertaking on a major Corridor that 3761 03:01:29,040 --> 03:01:30,600 we're investing a lot of funding into 3762 03:01:30,600 --> 03:01:32,819 streetscape improvements through the 3763 03:01:32,819 --> 03:01:34,319 pregnant connection and all of those 3764 03:01:34,319 --> 03:01:35,160 things 3765 03:01:35,160 --> 03:01:36,779 um so just something else to keep in 3766 03:01:36,779 --> 03:01:38,640 mind in terms of like how do we find a 3767 03:01:38,640 --> 03:01:40,979 productive use for the site and then who 3768 03:01:40,979 --> 03:01:43,260 ultimately is benefiting from that and 3769 03:01:43,260 --> 03:01:47,929 you know engaged in that process 3770 03:01:47,939 --> 03:01:49,500 go ahead please 3771 03:01:49,500 --> 03:01:51,540 um so one thing I don't want us to do is 3772 03:01:51,540 --> 03:01:52,680 start hitting one neighborhood against 3773 03:01:52,680 --> 03:01:55,439 another you know it's one city we have 3774 03:01:55,439 --> 03:01:57,479 people that live all over and we the 3775 03:01:57,479 --> 03:01:59,460 collective we serve them all so I want 3776 03:01:59,460 --> 03:02:01,620 us to start walking down that road 3777 03:02:01,620 --> 03:02:03,540 um and this is a question for the 3778 03:02:03,540 --> 03:02:05,760 Department of development or is there an 3779 03:02:05,760 --> 03:02:07,500 application that we where we did not 3780 03:02:07,500 --> 03:02:09,000 entertain from the north side in terms 3781 03:02:09,000 --> 03:02:11,120 of what was similarly talking about here 3782 03:02:11,120 --> 03:02:15,479 I do not stand okay with all a specific 3783 03:02:15,479 --> 03:02:18,479 applications from the nurse said I think 3784 03:02:18,479 --> 03:02:20,460 I know some of the distressed property 3785 03:02:20,460 --> 03:02:22,680 stuff that we discussed would would 3786 03:02:22,680 --> 03:02:24,960 benefit you know all areas of the city 3787 03:02:24,960 --> 03:02:26,340 but I don't recall a specific 3788 03:02:26,340 --> 03:02:28,040 application that we're not funding 3789 03:02:28,040 --> 03:02:30,840 coming from the north side so because I 3790 03:02:30,840 --> 03:02:32,340 just want to make sure that that you 3791 03:02:32,340 --> 03:02:33,840 know it's clear because it could be 3792 03:02:33,840 --> 03:02:35,760 misconstrued that we're talking about 3793 03:02:35,760 --> 03:02:38,580 funding uh a center over here and not 3794 03:02:38,580 --> 03:02:39,899 funding one away so I just want to make 3795 03:02:39,899 --> 03:02:41,460 sure that we're clear that that's not 3796 03:02:41,460 --> 03:02:42,720 what's what we're really talking about 3797 03:02:42,720 --> 03:02:44,640 here and again I don't want us to um 3798 03:02:44,640 --> 03:02:46,680 start pitting one neighborhood against 3799 03:02:46,680 --> 03:02:48,300 the other saying there's more need here 3800 03:02:48,300 --> 03:02:50,399 or more need there and we are talking 3801 03:02:50,399 --> 03:02:53,160 about a specific project that there is 3802 03:02:53,160 --> 03:02:55,859 not a similar project so 3803 03:02:55,859 --> 03:02:57,479 just need to make sure that's very clear 3804 03:02:57,479 --> 03:03:00,420 go ahead so I just want to actually 3805 03:03:00,420 --> 03:03:03,060 agree with Mr Paul I mean um that there 3806 03:03:03,060 --> 03:03:04,220 are 3807 03:03:04,220 --> 03:03:07,500 marginalized people who were greatly 3808 03:03:07,500 --> 03:03:10,680 impacted by uh covet in the north side 3809 03:03:10,680 --> 03:03:12,840 so I want to say I want to agree with 3810 03:03:12,840 --> 03:03:15,120 that and again I don't want 3811 03:03:15,120 --> 03:03:17,460 to think about what you're saying is 3812 03:03:17,460 --> 03:03:20,700 that we're not I'm not saying 3813 03:03:20,700 --> 03:03:22,200 fund 3814 03:03:22,200 --> 03:03:26,279 uh miracle and crack stream and not look 3815 03:03:26,279 --> 03:03:28,260 at any applications and these that's the 3816 03:03:28,260 --> 03:03:30,300 same consideration I will be making if 3817 03:03:30,300 --> 03:03:32,279 there was a similar application for 3818 03:03:32,279 --> 03:03:34,319 Community Center to the north side being 3819 03:03:34,319 --> 03:03:36,540 that there isn't I think 3820 03:03:36,540 --> 03:03:38,870 um 3821 03:03:38,880 --> 03:03:40,800 pretty easy for me to get to a place 3822 03:03:40,800 --> 03:03:42,300 that says 3823 03:03:42,300 --> 03:03:44,840 people greatestly emotionally impacted 3824 03:03:44,840 --> 03:03:48,420 and a unique uh application in it where 3825 03:03:48,420 --> 03:03:49,979 there's not we don't have to worry about 3826 03:03:49,979 --> 03:03:52,560 that duplication of services because 3827 03:03:52,560 --> 03:03:54,300 it's not talking about because this 3828 03:03:54,300 --> 03:03:56,340 doesn't even approach that criteria 3829 03:03:56,340 --> 03:03:58,319 that's where we're at and again talking 3830 03:03:58,319 --> 03:04:00,300 about people are most impacted those are 3831 03:04:00,300 --> 03:04:01,560 people who should get the most resources 3832 03:04:01,560 --> 03:04:03,899 that's what Equity is called that's how 3833 03:04:03,899 --> 03:04:09,429 you actually time 3834 03:04:09,439 --> 03:04:11,640 and to all the points that were just 3835 03:04:11,640 --> 03:04:13,680 made that's why and that was my only 3836 03:04:13,680 --> 03:04:15,899 reservation with fully allocating all 3837 03:04:15,899 --> 03:04:17,279 the money you want 3838 03:04:17,279 --> 03:04:19,319 because it does not take into 3839 03:04:19,319 --> 03:04:21,120 consideration the application that we 3840 03:04:21,120 --> 03:04:22,920 have not received so to your point 3841 03:04:22,920 --> 03:04:24,479 that's why I think it's important for us 3842 03:04:24,479 --> 03:04:27,840 to I don't know if it's not moving on 3843 03:04:27,840 --> 03:04:29,040 the clock 3844 03:04:29,040 --> 03:04:30,960 and always have good work to do so I'm 3845 03:04:30,960 --> 03:04:33,899 not trying to rush us along but did we 3846 03:04:33,899 --> 03:04:36,300 hit every area of fast in the city of 3847 03:04:36,300 --> 03:04:38,340 Schenectady with our first phase and if 3848 03:04:38,340 --> 03:04:40,260 not we need to ask ourselves how 3849 03:04:40,260 --> 03:04:42,899 comfortable are we fully assigning all 3850 03:04:42,899 --> 03:04:45,540 this money here to the mayor's or to the 3851 03:04:45,540 --> 03:04:47,700 cities projects and what is our 3852 03:04:47,700 --> 03:04:49,740 expectation to make sure that other 3853 03:04:49,740 --> 03:04:51,660 facets that weren't taken into 3854 03:04:51,660 --> 03:04:53,520 consideration 3855 03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:59,570 are 3856 03:04:59,580 --> 03:05:03,260 so in terms of this sensor I do support 3857 03:05:03,260 --> 03:05:06,180 having an American Factory until we have 3858 03:05:06,180 --> 03:05:08,220 the center it's going to complement what 3859 03:05:08,220 --> 03:05:09,840 is already around the super Boys and 3860 03:05:09,840 --> 03:05:12,720 Girls Clubs and the school and things 3861 03:05:12,720 --> 03:05:15,300 like that it is vital to us to lend 3862 03:05:15,300 --> 03:05:16,319 support 3863 03:05:16,319 --> 03:05:18,180 and to work with other agency as they 3864 03:05:18,180 --> 03:05:20,520 really have to be building and the board 3865 03:05:20,520 --> 03:05:22,080 and the membership of people in my 3866 03:05:22,080 --> 03:05:23,660 community to service 3867 03:05:23,660 --> 03:05:26,279 that neighborhood and beyond that so I 3868 03:05:26,279 --> 03:05:28,979 think it's vital that we provide the 3869 03:05:28,979 --> 03:05:31,620 funding necessary I know for a fact that 3870 03:05:31,620 --> 03:05:33,840 they are working with other agencies I 3871 03:05:33,840 --> 03:05:35,520 know for fact that they are discussion 3872 03:05:35,520 --> 03:05:37,560 with the county to help with some 3873 03:05:37,560 --> 03:05:40,200 fundings and I'm pretty sure that is 3874 03:05:40,200 --> 03:05:42,660 going to be put into place funding will 3875 03:05:42,660 --> 03:05:43,620 be available 3876 03:05:43,620 --> 03:05:49,370 to make this happen for this project 3877 03:05:49,380 --> 03:05:52,979 I am I am more leaning towards a sport 3878 03:05:52,979 --> 03:05:55,800 of field 1.25 million 3879 03:05:55,800 --> 03:05:58,140 so I'm not sure if 3880 03:05:58,140 --> 03:05:59,939 the party and 3881 03:05:59,939 --> 03:06:02,809 Mr William is 3882 03:06:02,819 --> 03:06:06,540 go ahead I think um 3883 03:06:06,540 --> 03:06:08,220 I begrudgingly 3884 03:06:08,220 --> 03:06:11,630 okay uh 3885 03:06:11,640 --> 03:06:13,200 agree to that 3886 03:06:13,200 --> 03:06:16,380 um but it's under protest I did not 3887 03:06:16,380 --> 03:06:30,790 remember 3888 03:06:30,800 --> 03:06:35,290 thank you 3889 03:06:35,300 --> 03:06:39,429 for one million 3890 03:06:39,439 --> 03:06:42,720 but where does the extra 250 000 come 3891 03:06:42,720 --> 03:06:45,670 from 3892 03:06:45,680 --> 03:06:48,359 well that's also said at some point 3893 03:06:48,359 --> 03:06:52,040 we'll we will have the things 3894 03:06:52,040 --> 03:06:54,660 yes the finance department will have to 3895 03:06:54,660 --> 03:06:56,819 come back to us 3896 03:06:56,819 --> 03:06:59,939 meeting to kind of work out the numbers 3897 03:06:59,939 --> 03:07:02,160 I think we have four 3898 03:07:02,160 --> 03:07:04,740 members who are in favor of 1.250 3899 03:07:04,740 --> 03:07:08,160 million dollars being allocated so the 3900 03:07:08,160 --> 03:07:10,880 miracle of Craig three 3901 03:07:10,880 --> 03:07:18,230 do I have that correct okay 3902 03:07:18,240 --> 03:07:20,399 this item will move forward with an 3903 03:07:20,399 --> 03:07:22,279 allocation of 3904 03:07:22,279 --> 03:07:28,070 1.250 million 3905 03:07:28,080 --> 03:07:29,880 any other item that we need to discuss 3906 03:07:29,880 --> 03:07:34,010 from members 3907 03:07:34,020 --> 03:07:36,660 yes 3908 03:07:36,660 --> 03:07:38,819 I would like to push forth the 3909 03:07:38,819 --> 03:07:41,760 steakhouse for 172 3910 03:07:41,760 --> 03:07:54,469 000 73 dollars 3911 03:07:54,479 --> 03:07:58,560 the original request was that amount 272 3912 03:07:58,560 --> 03:08:01,319 73 and Maya's proposal is the same for 3913 03:08:01,319 --> 03:08:02,240 tomorrow 3914 03:08:02,240 --> 03:08:08,210 profession on this line 3915 03:08:08,220 --> 03:08:19,570 foreign 3916 03:08:19,580 --> 03:08:23,220 okay with this item what's being funded 3917 03:08:23,220 --> 03:08:24,960 here 3918 03:08:24,960 --> 03:08:27,359 it's unspecific specified 3919 03:08:27,359 --> 03:08:29,399 but it is an important organization but 3920 03:08:29,399 --> 03:08:31,580 I know the organizations 3921 03:08:31,580 --> 03:08:34,760 they did not have specifics yeah 3922 03:08:34,760 --> 03:08:40,190 it would be able to elaborate on this or 3923 03:08:40,200 --> 03:08:43,439 so you know I'm safe had a significant 3924 03:08:43,439 --> 03:08:45,300 hit during full good 3925 03:08:45,300 --> 03:08:47,100 and then serious significant Staffing 3926 03:08:47,100 --> 03:08:50,410 shortages 3927 03:08:50,420 --> 03:08:55,730 to meet the needs of the promises 3928 03:08:55,740 --> 03:08:57,420 organizations have been shut down for a 3929 03:08:57,420 --> 03:09:00,300 couple of times and hopeless if they get 3930 03:09:00,300 --> 03:09:02,040 some additional funding they can 3931 03:09:02,040 --> 03:09:03,540 increase the pay require the additional 3932 03:09:03,540 --> 03:09:04,740 set that they need 3933 03:09:04,740 --> 03:09:07,140 to ensure that they have 3934 03:09:07,140 --> 03:09:08,580 safe place 3935 03:09:08,580 --> 03:09:14,090 with sexually drives youth 3936 03:09:14,100 --> 03:09:16,800 we consider it a critical need in the 3937 03:09:16,800 --> 03:09:18,979 city that 3938 03:09:18,979 --> 03:09:21,420 is importantly forward 3939 03:09:21,420 --> 03:09:23,340 that's the Williams 3940 03:09:23,340 --> 03:09:25,439 so in keeping in kind with the 3941 03:09:25,439 --> 03:09:26,880 recommendation from the planning 3942 03:09:26,880 --> 03:09:28,380 department they received a favorable 3943 03:09:28,380 --> 03:09:30,779 score and then looking out and from its 3944 03:09:30,779 --> 03:09:32,520 advisory committee it was ranked third 3945 03:09:32,520 --> 03:09:37,739 out of week nine applications 3946 03:09:37,739 --> 03:09:39,060 I think looking at is a mission 3947 03:09:39,060 --> 03:09:40,620 statement it is 3948 03:09:40,620 --> 03:09:42,300 exceptional mission that we need to 3949 03:09:42,300 --> 03:09:43,979 continue back in ensure that there are 3950 03:09:43,979 --> 03:09:46,800 adequate resources to provide 3951 03:09:46,800 --> 03:09:50,040 to use our youth that are in very very 3952 03:09:50,040 --> 03:09:52,760 dire needs 3953 03:09:52,760 --> 03:09:55,560 thank you Mr Williams I absolutely agree 3954 03:09:55,560 --> 03:09:58,620 with you on the importance of this it 3955 03:09:58,620 --> 03:10:01,939 didn't receive over one group of 3956 03:10:01,939 --> 03:10:05,160 reviewers didn't even score it and it 3957 03:10:05,160 --> 03:10:06,739 scored like from 3958 03:10:06,739 --> 03:10:11,880 with not like middle to low yeah right 3959 03:10:11,880 --> 03:10:13,500 not at all 3960 03:10:13,500 --> 03:10:17,460 um but I I do agree with the mayors 3961 03:10:17,460 --> 03:10:20,279 Department of developments funding for 3962 03:10:20,279 --> 03:10:25,550 this absolutely free 3963 03:10:25,560 --> 03:10:29,100 any other question on this I think 3964 03:10:29,100 --> 03:10:31,620 so I'm feeling that we have a unanimous 3965 03:10:31,620 --> 03:10:33,899 agreement on the Titans powered with 3966 03:10:33,899 --> 03:10:36,899 funding the same house 3967 03:10:36,899 --> 03:10:39,840 173 3968 03:10:39,840 --> 03:10:44,050 zero seven and three dollars 3969 03:10:44,060 --> 03:10:47,580 sorry one service okay 3970 03:10:47,580 --> 03:10:55,429 because our 172073 thank you 3971 03:10:55,439 --> 03:11:01,859 oh yeah so uh I also I'd also like to uh 3972 03:11:01,859 --> 03:11:08,750 the seat Center Schenectady 3973 03:11:08,760 --> 03:11:11,939 I think that um talk about all of the 3974 03:11:11,939 --> 03:11:15,120 things pretty much of the seat Center I 3975 03:11:15,120 --> 03:11:16,680 think something that the seat Center 3976 03:11:16,680 --> 03:11:20,399 does a not so good job at is really uh 3977 03:11:20,399 --> 03:11:22,260 letting people know about all the great 3978 03:11:22,260 --> 03:11:24,180 work that they are doing because they're 3979 03:11:24,180 --> 03:11:27,600 a completely holistic approach to uh you 3980 03:11:27,600 --> 03:11:32,040 Services Nest everything from get checks 3981 03:11:32,040 --> 03:11:33,380 the boxes around 3982 03:11:33,380 --> 03:11:36,560 you know workplace Workforce Development 3983 03:11:36,560 --> 03:11:41,640 food insecurities Chase work on a number 3984 03:11:41,640 --> 03:11:45,239 of other things so hard in fact you know 3985 03:11:45,239 --> 03:11:48,359 that the council is is really familiar 3986 03:11:48,359 --> 03:11:50,580 with what the sea center does in the 3987 03:11:50,580 --> 03:11:52,819 city has partner didn't see 3988 03:11:52,819 --> 03:11:55,260 plenty times so I'd like to go forward 3989 03:11:55,260 --> 03:12:18,610 to see time 3990 03:12:18,620 --> 03:12:21,660 84 cents 3991 03:12:21,660 --> 03:12:28,429 okay 3992 03:12:28,439 --> 03:12:29,819 that's 3993 03:12:29,819 --> 03:12:32,700 um since this is not on the mayor's 3994 03:12:32,700 --> 03:12:34,500 proposal this year you might just give 3995 03:12:34,500 --> 03:12:36,540 us a different breathe 3996 03:12:36,540 --> 03:12:37,800 summary 3997 03:12:37,800 --> 03:12:41,340 place just for the sake of clarity on a 3998 03:12:41,340 --> 03:12:48,410 safe uh 3999 03:12:48,420 --> 03:12:51,500 I don't have the application 4000 03:12:51,500 --> 03:12:54,000 you know as you know the the seat Center 4001 03:12:54,000 --> 03:12:56,819 does a lot of social Enterprise training 4002 03:12:56,819 --> 03:12:59,340 Workforce Development youth field 4003 03:12:59,340 --> 03:13:01,979 program I think one of the things that 4004 03:13:01,979 --> 03:13:03,300 we did discuss with the mayor was 4005 03:13:03,300 --> 03:13:05,040 potentially engaging them in some of the 4006 03:13:05,040 --> 03:13:06,720 distressed property rehabs through the 4007 03:13:06,720 --> 03:13:09,420 workforce training component of that so 4008 03:13:09,420 --> 03:13:12,420 I do believe that is the mayor's one of 4009 03:13:12,420 --> 03:13:15,479 his you know goals as to is to integrate 4010 03:13:15,479 --> 03:13:19,020 them into the distressed property rehabs 4011 03:13:19,020 --> 03:13:21,180 go ahead please well let's see that that 4012 03:13:21,180 --> 03:13:24,060 would be a logical fit for this for seat 4013 03:13:24,060 --> 03:13:26,040 Center as well as 4014 03:13:26,040 --> 03:13:28,620 you know I mean how does it figuring 4015 03:13:28,620 --> 03:13:32,520 with the Durie foundation and the office 4016 03:13:32,520 --> 03:13:34,080 of affirmative actions will of course 4017 03:13:34,080 --> 03:13:36,120 development initiative because they work 4018 03:13:36,120 --> 03:13:38,840 so closely with SEED Center 4019 03:13:38,840 --> 03:13:43,680 of Mr Gardner's work yep um so I would 4020 03:13:43,680 --> 03:13:46,020 have to say that hopefully it didn't 4021 03:13:46,020 --> 03:13:48,479 come up at all maybe it would be part of 4022 03:13:48,479 --> 03:13:50,100 one of those two things 4023 03:13:50,100 --> 03:13:52,439 not just mentioned 4024 03:13:52,439 --> 03:13:56,100 more what we already previously 4025 03:13:56,100 --> 03:14:00,590 for reaction slash Victoria yeah 4026 03:14:00,600 --> 03:14:02,160 I'm just trying to find a place where 4027 03:14:02,160 --> 03:14:04,140 because it's not on our list so we have 4028 03:14:04,140 --> 03:14:08,030 to take away money from something else 4029 03:14:08,040 --> 03:14:09,960 it's not on the mayor's on this on this 4030 03:14:09,960 --> 03:14:11,100 proposal that we're talking about 4031 03:14:11,100 --> 03:14:15,710 tonight okay okay 4032 03:14:15,720 --> 03:14:18,779 we were looking for a project so that's 4033 03:14:18,779 --> 03:14:21,540 why I did that and I 4034 03:14:21,540 --> 03:14:23,399 that's that's the thinking around that 4035 03:14:23,399 --> 03:14:25,739 and I think that the seed Center has uh 4036 03:14:25,739 --> 03:14:27,660 proven that one thing that they do 4037 03:14:27,660 --> 03:14:29,580 really well is collaborate 4038 03:14:29,580 --> 03:14:32,760 um and within the city and so that's 4039 03:14:32,760 --> 03:14:37,550 what I'm learning that for okay 4040 03:14:37,560 --> 03:14:39,479 any other discussion in terms of funding 4041 03:14:39,479 --> 03:14:40,380 is 4042 03:14:40,380 --> 03:14:42,720 as requested 4043 03:14:42,720 --> 03:14:45,359 so I realized that it's not on the um 4044 03:14:45,359 --> 03:14:48,000 the mayor's list but 4045 03:14:48,000 --> 03:14:50,279 um I do think I know I'm I think we all 4046 03:14:50,279 --> 03:14:51,720 are very familiar with the program and 4047 03:14:51,720 --> 03:14:54,239 I'm you know 4048 03:14:54,239 --> 03:14:56,640 I would support some funding the program 4049 03:14:56,640 --> 03:14:59,220 it's continually shown the good work 4050 03:14:59,220 --> 03:15:01,260 that it does not only in the actual work 4051 03:15:01,260 --> 03:15:03,180 that it does but the work it does in 4052 03:15:03,180 --> 03:15:05,160 changing the lives of the young people 4053 03:15:05,160 --> 03:15:08,040 that they work with I have witnessed it 4054 03:15:08,040 --> 03:15:09,779 in terms of them coming to communities 4055 03:15:09,779 --> 03:15:13,080 and rehabbing the house on Prospect yeah 4056 03:15:13,080 --> 03:15:15,840 on Prospect Street so it's clear that 4057 03:15:15,840 --> 03:15:18,180 the work that they're doing so um 4058 03:15:18,180 --> 03:15:20,399 I understand you know but it's again we 4059 03:15:20,399 --> 03:15:21,840 were talking about 4060 03:15:21,840 --> 03:15:24,000 um about some of the smaller programs 4061 03:15:24,000 --> 03:15:27,660 that didn't quite make the list and that 4062 03:15:27,660 --> 03:15:30,420 is one of them so I I am um I'm 4063 03:15:30,420 --> 03:15:32,340 supportive of this program so would 4064 03:15:32,340 --> 03:15:33,960 there be discussion around how much we 4065 03:15:33,960 --> 03:15:35,220 certainly can but I am definitely 4066 03:15:35,220 --> 03:15:37,319 supportive of this uh of this particular 4067 03:15:37,319 --> 03:15:44,830 program 4068 03:15:44,840 --> 03:15:47,520 thank you 4069 03:15:47,520 --> 03:15:49,020 ah sorry I gotta put you guys 4070 03:15:49,020 --> 03:15:51,439 responsibility 4071 03:15:51,439 --> 03:15:54,359 so I I I know they had a highly 4072 03:15:54,359 --> 03:15:55,620 favorable 4073 03:15:55,620 --> 03:15:58,020 ratings 4074 03:15:58,020 --> 03:15:59,520 um even though they didn't make it onto 4075 03:15:59,520 --> 03:16:01,620 the funding here and as Miss Patrick 4076 03:16:01,620 --> 03:16:04,500 said perhaps um they thought it could 4077 03:16:04,500 --> 03:16:07,319 work in with someone else's funding but 4078 03:16:07,319 --> 03:16:09,779 getting that was another 300 and some 4079 03:16:09,779 --> 03:16:11,460 odd thousand if that's what the amount 4080 03:16:11,460 --> 03:16:13,979 comes to on top of that that's half of 4081 03:16:13,979 --> 03:16:17,040 the 250 000 so now we're golfer's gonna 4082 03:16:17,040 --> 03:16:18,560 be fine 4083 03:16:18,560 --> 03:16:20,819 I'm worried about a lot of things you 4084 03:16:20,819 --> 03:16:23,220 know again permanent fact that it 4085 03:16:23,220 --> 03:16:27,859 impacted our entire city okay 4086 03:16:27,859 --> 03:16:32,040 and those affected were were everyone 4087 03:16:32,040 --> 03:16:33,779 and we 4088 03:16:33,779 --> 03:16:36,540 and before everyone in this entire city 4089 03:16:36,540 --> 03:16:38,939 so youth are very important to me 4090 03:16:38,939 --> 03:16:42,899 absolutely so I'm in agreeance with what 4091 03:16:42,899 --> 03:16:44,580 they do and 4092 03:16:44,580 --> 03:16:45,779 um 4093 03:16:45,779 --> 03:16:48,779 I maybe propose depending on what they 4094 03:16:48,779 --> 03:16:50,520 need what they requested the money for 4095 03:16:50,520 --> 03:16:53,040 maybe a little lower allocation I I 4096 03:16:53,040 --> 03:16:54,660 don't know because we don't really know 4097 03:16:54,660 --> 03:16:57,239 what we have moving forward 4098 03:16:57,239 --> 03:17:04,560 as far as finding so I would be in agreeance but it's not 4099 03:17:04,560 --> 03:17:06,239 for the entire amount but can we talk 4100 03:17:06,239 --> 03:17:10,020 about in the modeling may want to put 4101 03:17:10,020 --> 03:17:11,760 yeah just to address that I know we are 4102 03:17:11,760 --> 03:17:13,439 adding numbers here and that's what I 4103 03:17:13,439 --> 03:17:14,760 mentioned earlier that we can get 4104 03:17:14,760 --> 03:17:16,800 through all of this so we'll have to 4105 03:17:16,800 --> 03:17:20,040 send back into the finance Community to 4106 03:17:20,040 --> 03:17:21,540 come to all the one that we're improving 4107 03:17:21,540 --> 03:17:24,540 and then possible comeback either the 4108 03:17:24,540 --> 03:17:26,700 next two week or a special city council 4109 03:17:26,700 --> 03:17:28,439 meeting a committee meeting and address 4110 03:17:28,439 --> 03:17:31,500 it but that's going to address the the 4111 03:17:31,500 --> 03:17:35,469 ads that we're doing here tonight 4112 03:17:35,479 --> 03:17:38,399 because I obviously support SEED Center 4113 03:17:38,399 --> 03:17:40,680 I think we all are in great seed centers 4114 03:17:40,680 --> 03:17:43,380 and very very valuable resource in our 4115 03:17:43,380 --> 03:17:45,720 town and 4116 03:17:45,720 --> 03:17:49,080 however that being says You must have 4117 03:17:49,080 --> 03:17:51,180 had some thinking around why you didn't 4118 03:17:51,180 --> 03:17:53,220 want to fund the seat Center and you 4119 03:17:53,220 --> 03:17:55,680 instead were funding Workforce 4120 03:17:55,680 --> 03:17:57,600 Development in these two other air and 4121 03:17:57,600 --> 03:18:01,500 in the rehab I'm sorry the housing rehab 4122 03:18:01,500 --> 03:18:04,920 um and the affirmative action slash 4123 03:18:04,920 --> 03:18:08,220 durrier and how that fits in with the 4124 03:18:08,220 --> 03:18:10,620 seed Center which is a perfect fit for 4125 03:18:10,620 --> 03:18:13,080 either of those two I think there is 4126 03:18:13,080 --> 03:18:14,640 potential for that collaboration to 4127 03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:16,380 happen and again I think that we did 4128 03:18:16,380 --> 03:18:17,939 discuss it as part of the distressed 4129 03:18:17,939 --> 03:18:19,380 property rehabs because we know they 4130 03:18:19,380 --> 03:18:21,300 look for a site every year that they 4131 03:18:21,300 --> 03:18:23,100 take their youth filled to their rehab 4132 03:18:23,100 --> 03:18:25,279 and I thought somebody's gonna that was 4133 03:18:25,279 --> 03:18:30,889 discussed that but 4134 03:18:30,899 --> 03:18:35,929 not they do one ounce 4135 03:18:35,939 --> 03:18:38,880 we're going to take the largest number 4136 03:18:38,880 --> 03:18:41,160 of properties 4137 03:18:41,160 --> 03:18:43,739 from foreclosures of what we're moving 4138 03:18:43,739 --> 03:18:45,840 down the path 4139 03:18:45,840 --> 03:18:48,239 I have to be able to have a game plan in 4140 03:18:48,239 --> 03:18:51,359 place to maximize 4141 03:18:51,359 --> 03:18:53,100 that property that we're going to take 4142 03:18:53,100 --> 03:18:55,200 in fix it up create home ownership 4143 03:18:55,200 --> 03:18:59,239 opportunities do things run gardeners 4144 03:18:59,239 --> 03:19:02,100 spearheading working at the banking 4145 03:19:02,100 --> 03:19:03,960 Community line up the numbers to make it 4146 03:19:03,960 --> 03:19:07,140 work and so not looking to exclude the 4147 03:19:07,140 --> 03:19:11,340 seat Center but one house 4148 03:19:11,340 --> 03:19:15,889 in this package 4149 03:19:15,899 --> 03:19:18,060 doesn't really reflect you know what 4150 03:19:18,060 --> 03:19:19,500 their potential is and it's how do you 4151 03:19:19,500 --> 03:19:20,840 get them 4152 03:19:20,840 --> 03:19:23,939 involved in a bigger picture in a 4153 03:19:23,939 --> 03:19:25,859 evolving role 4154 03:19:25,859 --> 03:19:28,200 and 4155 03:19:28,200 --> 03:19:30,600 they've done in the past looking to have 4156 03:19:30,600 --> 03:19:33,060 people step up and got to challenge them 4157 03:19:33,060 --> 03:19:34,859 and challenge other ones to come up 4158 03:19:34,859 --> 03:19:36,540 again we're working the Building Trades 4159 03:19:36,540 --> 03:19:37,920 to 4160 03:19:37,920 --> 03:19:42,060 Provide support for this and things that 4161 03:19:42,060 --> 03:19:45,180 just we've never done before in other 4162 03:19:45,180 --> 03:19:47,700 communities are not doing it 4163 03:19:47,700 --> 03:19:49,380 that's Patrick I want to go back to you 4164 03:19:49,380 --> 03:19:52,800 are you in support of the 4165 03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:55,500 uh aggressive funding I can't make that 4166 03:19:55,500 --> 03:19:56,640 decision right now about the scene 4167 03:19:56,640 --> 03:19:58,080 Center I'd rather see them wrapped into 4168 03:19:58,080 --> 03:20:01,140 the city of Schenectady bacon housing 4169 03:20:01,140 --> 03:20:03,120 rehab program I'd be very supportive of 4170 03:20:03,120 --> 03:20:07,080 that and or on them being a part of the 4171 03:20:07,080 --> 03:20:09,180 affirmative action startier education 4172 03:20:09,180 --> 03:20:10,080 project 4173 03:20:10,080 --> 03:20:12,000 because I also want to point out that 4174 03:20:12,000 --> 03:20:14,399 the other project that we're short 4175 03:20:14,399 --> 03:20:16,739 changing here is the capital region land 4176 03:20:16,739 --> 03:20:20,100 bank which I think we all would agree uh 4177 03:20:20,100 --> 03:20:22,200 has been doing an amazing job in terms 4178 03:20:22,200 --> 03:20:26,570 of taking distressed properties and 4179 03:20:26,580 --> 03:20:28,380 because well and I believe that they 4180 03:20:28,380 --> 03:20:30,120 also work with the seat Center sometimes 4181 03:20:30,120 --> 03:20:32,460 please help you with that project so in 4182 03:20:32,460 --> 03:20:36,120 fact I mean they asked for 1.5 million 4183 03:20:36,120 --> 03:20:39,239 we have it down to 1.25 4184 03:20:39,239 --> 03:20:41,700 um I mean again I mean that's we know 4185 03:20:41,700 --> 03:20:46,670 their track record we know what they 4186 03:20:46,680 --> 03:20:51,670 can't make an independent about the season 4187 03:20:51,680 --> 03:20:53,899 I 4188 03:20:53,899 --> 03:20:57,979 want to be careful that again we're not 4189 03:20:57,979 --> 03:21:01,610 hitting one project 4190 03:21:01,620 --> 03:21:05,340 because the seat Center isn't uh 4191 03:21:05,340 --> 03:21:08,399 is it it doesn't just build houses they 4192 03:21:08,399 --> 03:21:16,200 build lives there so you can say it's a youth program first and so that is is the things that we're 4193 03:21:16,200 --> 03:21:18,540 considering again and the population 4194 03:21:18,540 --> 03:21:20,580 that they serve are section three 4195 03:21:20,580 --> 03:21:24,540 workers people who are most uh mostly 4196 03:21:24,540 --> 03:21:27,180 impacted by covet so again that's where 4197 03:21:27,180 --> 03:21:29,399 I get to that place into the mayor's 4198 03:21:29,399 --> 03:21:31,260 point I think that the mayor has put 4199 03:21:31,260 --> 03:21:33,239 forth some real 4200 03:21:33,239 --> 03:21:33,979 um 4201 03:21:33,979 --> 03:21:37,439 strong uh proposals for 4202 03:21:37,439 --> 03:21:40,739 um how we can kind of Leverage the work 4203 03:21:40,739 --> 03:21:43,979 that the seat Center is doing so again I 4204 03:21:43,979 --> 03:21:48,000 reported one and not supporting another I'm just bringing forth the seat 4205 03:21:48,000 --> 03:21:50,880 Center at this time and I'll stop there 4206 03:21:50,880 --> 03:21:54,540 yes Mr Williams 4207 03:21:54,540 --> 03:21:56,640 give to it to the same Accord I think 4208 03:21:56,640 --> 03:21:59,460 and also speaking from having spent time 4209 03:21:59,460 --> 03:22:02,460 at the site or at their building and 4210 03:22:02,460 --> 03:22:05,040 then also joining 4211 03:22:05,040 --> 03:22:06,720 few of their members going to one of the 4212 03:22:06,720 --> 03:22:08,580 sun neighborhood beings is not 4213 03:22:08,580 --> 03:22:09,960 necessarily focusing on the one 4214 03:22:09,960 --> 03:22:12,359 household it is how many youth youthful 4215 03:22:12,359 --> 03:22:14,939 hands touch each of those pillars each 4216 03:22:14,939 --> 03:22:17,600 of those Hammers and nails and how 4217 03:22:17,600 --> 03:22:20,100 influential and transformative this work 4218 03:22:20,100 --> 03:22:22,020 is on their lives I've spoken with 4219 03:22:22,020 --> 03:22:24,060 someone specifically and Her Name 4220 03:22:24,060 --> 03:22:27,180 Escapes me but she quite plainly said 4221 03:22:27,180 --> 03:22:29,279 her life was changing and she might have 4222 03:22:29,279 --> 03:22:31,319 been someone that was previously written 4223 03:22:31,319 --> 03:22:35,100 off that is now a another taxpayer who 4224 03:22:35,100 --> 03:22:37,439 not only can take those crap skills and 4225 03:22:37,439 --> 03:22:40,080 investors in another site but also might 4226 03:22:40,080 --> 03:22:42,420 one day purchase on those properties so 4227 03:22:42,420 --> 03:22:43,739 I think looking at the compounding 4228 03:22:43,739 --> 03:22:49,260 effects of this this program is uh 4229 03:22:49,260 --> 03:22:51,960 beyond the shadow of contention so yes 4230 03:22:51,960 --> 03:22:55,690 I'm in favor 4231 03:22:55,700 --> 03:22:59,580 you are in here yes that the original uh 4232 03:22:59,580 --> 03:23:02,580 proposal submitted same thing for the 4233 03:23:02,580 --> 03:23:05,460 Safari system follow me you are sure yes 4234 03:23:05,460 --> 03:23:07,140 for the proposal 4235 03:23:07,140 --> 03:23:09,720 you said yes but you said to a lower 4236 03:23:09,720 --> 03:23:21,250 amounts 4237 03:23:21,260 --> 03:23:23,460 but again 4238 03:23:23,460 --> 03:23:27,229 wondering 4239 03:23:27,239 --> 03:23:28,800 you know it's like going to the grocery 4240 03:23:28,800 --> 03:23:30,420 store and adding it up at the end and 4241 03:23:30,420 --> 03:23:33,120 not having the money to spend no I 4242 03:23:33,120 --> 03:23:35,760 understand I respect that I fully 4243 03:23:35,760 --> 03:23:38,160 support the seat Center they are doing a 4244 03:23:38,160 --> 03:23:41,520 tremendous job to the youth the city of 4245 03:23:41,520 --> 03:23:43,979 Schenectady and I think we must support 4246 03:23:43,979 --> 03:23:45,779 them and use the world most we must 4247 03:23:45,779 --> 03:23:47,700 support them because for what they're 4248 03:23:47,700 --> 03:23:50,460 doing and the impact they are creating 4249 03:23:50,460 --> 03:23:53,220 in the city so I have no choice but to 4250 03:23:53,220 --> 03:23:54,479 support them for the full amount that 4251 03:23:54,479 --> 03:24:12,290 was requested of 343 000 82.84 4252 03:24:12,300 --> 03:24:14,840 please 4253 03:24:14,840 --> 03:24:19,260 propose 7.1 million for the remainders 4254 03:24:19,260 --> 03:24:22,620 of the parts project plus 500 000 first 4255 03:24:22,620 --> 03:24:26,100 diamonds Park plus a million for youth 4256 03:24:26,100 --> 03:24:28,739 programs in the city so there are five 4257 03:24:28,739 --> 03:24:31,620 fields in the city one at Belleview 4258 03:24:31,620 --> 03:24:34,439 Little League one at Schenectady the old 4259 03:24:34,439 --> 03:24:35,880 Schenectady Little League which is 4260 03:24:35,880 --> 03:24:39,479 Michigan Avenue one is JC Little League 4261 03:24:39,479 --> 03:24:41,460 there's the Babe Ruth field and there's 4262 03:24:41,460 --> 03:24:43,260 also the soccer field 4263 03:24:43,260 --> 03:24:45,960 to give a million dollars to those 4264 03:24:45,960 --> 03:24:48,660 organizations so that they can fix up 4265 03:24:48,660 --> 03:24:50,180 their fields 4266 03:24:50,180 --> 03:24:53,399 the organizations right now are thriving 4267 03:24:53,399 --> 03:24:56,160 particularly the Little League baseball 4268 03:24:56,160 --> 03:25:00,300 and the ideas for them to move towards 4269 03:25:00,300 --> 03:25:02,700 allowing every single kid in this city 4270 03:25:02,700 --> 03:25:04,680 to play for free 4271 03:25:04,680 --> 03:25:07,439 and they're very close to that but 4272 03:25:07,439 --> 03:25:09,239 there's a lot of Capital Improvements 4273 03:25:09,239 --> 03:25:12,020 that need to be made and 4274 03:25:12,020 --> 03:25:14,220 you know right now the Little League 4275 03:25:14,220 --> 03:25:16,620 Baseball has grown from basically 4276 03:25:16,620 --> 03:25:19,920 non-existent to 10 teams 4277 03:25:19,920 --> 03:25:23,700 um the soccer fields we know is well 4278 03:25:23,700 --> 03:25:26,160 utilized but we could create a complex 4279 03:25:26,160 --> 03:25:27,540 for the Youth 4280 03:25:27,540 --> 03:25:32,399 and allow them to play for free so 500 4281 03:25:32,399 --> 03:25:34,920 000 for steinman's park I think would be 4282 03:25:34,920 --> 03:25:37,140 well utilized to do the Capital 4283 03:25:37,140 --> 03:25:39,000 Improvements and that could be leveraged 4284 03:25:39,000 --> 03:25:40,920 with a grant from 4285 03:25:40,920 --> 03:25:45,120 Senator Steck I just I just assembly 4286 03:25:45,120 --> 03:25:47,300 number seven I'm sure if you would like 4287 03:25:47,300 --> 03:25:51,540 that and then it was 6.05 for the 4288 03:25:51,540 --> 03:25:55,319 remainder of the proposed Parks projects 4289 03:25:55,319 --> 03:25:59,700 from the 500 000 human generosity will 4290 03:25:59,700 --> 03:26:01,979 help us to direct in terms of you talk 4291 03:26:01,979 --> 03:26:04,739 about the baseball Little League now the 4292 03:26:04,739 --> 03:26:07,800 500 000 would be first diamonds are to 4293 03:26:07,800 --> 03:26:09,960 make the necessary improvements that are 4294 03:26:09,960 --> 03:26:13,500 needed so there's talk of trying to fix 4295 03:26:13,500 --> 03:26:16,080 up that wall which is historic him 4296 03:26:16,080 --> 03:26:18,899 putting the pathway around the lake kind 4297 03:26:18,899 --> 03:26:20,580 of plus some other improvements that are 4298 03:26:20,580 --> 03:26:22,979 needed a million dollars would go 4299 03:26:22,979 --> 03:26:26,040 towards the five youth organizations 4300 03:26:26,040 --> 03:26:29,000 um to be split according to their needs 4301 03:26:29,000 --> 03:26:33,300 to ensure that our youth can play sports 4302 03:26:33,300 --> 03:26:39,349 organized sports for free 4303 03:26:39,359 --> 03:26:41,640 I think I'm missing it is that wonderful 4304 03:26:41,640 --> 03:26:43,819 sir it's not animals 4305 03:26:43,819 --> 03:26:47,580 we're considering okay okay it's an 4306 03:26:47,580 --> 03:26:49,319 application one of the applications no 4307 03:26:49,319 --> 03:26:52,620 but we considered other stuff with an 4308 03:26:52,620 --> 03:26:56,469 application no we haven't no yeah 4309 03:26:56,479 --> 03:26:58,560 they had an application we need to 4310 03:26:58,560 --> 03:27:00,060 change their purpose so they did have an 4311 03:27:00,060 --> 03:27:02,040 application okay well that opens the 4312 03:27:02,040 --> 03:27:04,140 door 4313 03:27:04,140 --> 03:27:06,600 and this is for you the place organized 4314 03:27:06,600 --> 03:27:09,899 sports for free and really give them 4315 03:27:09,899 --> 03:27:13,380 top-notch facilities with what we have I 4316 03:27:13,380 --> 03:27:16,200 mean it would be great for our kids so 4317 03:27:16,200 --> 03:27:17,640 you're asking for five hundred thousand 4318 03:27:17,640 --> 03:27:23,090 dollars for an assignments form yes 4319 03:27:23,100 --> 03:27:24,180 foreign 4320 03:27:24,180 --> 03:27:27,420 plus the remainder of the parks projects 4321 03:27:27,420 --> 03:27:31,140 beyond the pool and Golf Course 4322 03:27:31,140 --> 03:27:33,899 there was not for these agencies the 4323 03:27:33,899 --> 03:27:35,819 only difference is that um 4324 03:27:35,819 --> 03:27:38,100 an application was adjusted for the 4325 03:27:38,100 --> 03:27:40,620 Green Market because of the programs so 4326 03:27:40,620 --> 03:27:43,319 this is an adjustment 4327 03:27:43,319 --> 03:27:45,140 I'm sorry I was thinking about your 4328 03:27:45,140 --> 03:27:49,760 class for 7.1 for carbs 4329 03:27:49,760 --> 03:27:52,800 6.05 to pay for the remainder of the 4330 03:27:52,800 --> 03:27:56,220 parks projects a million for five of our 4331 03:27:56,220 --> 03:27:58,500 new fact Fields throughout the city 4332 03:27:58,500 --> 03:28:02,040 between 500 000 for caffeine agreements 4333 03:28:02,040 --> 03:28:07,610 to stand 4334 03:28:07,620 --> 03:28:09,420 go ahead in the civilians so 4335 03:28:09,420 --> 03:28:12,600 considerable amount of projects that 4336 03:28:12,600 --> 03:28:14,939 Mr palomini is recommending if not 4337 03:28:14,939 --> 03:28:16,979 creating right now 4338 03:28:16,979 --> 03:28:18,600 unfortunately have not submitted 4339 03:28:18,600 --> 03:28:19,739 applications 4340 03:28:19,739 --> 03:28:22,859 however it lead me to this I was going 4341 03:28:22,859 --> 03:28:24,720 to recommend you Schenectady Little 4342 03:28:24,720 --> 03:28:27,000 League the Santee Blue Jays did submit 4343 03:28:27,000 --> 03:28:30,180 application for 350 000 dollars 4344 03:28:30,180 --> 03:28:35,100 if I can school so that although the 4345 03:28:35,100 --> 03:28:37,560 department of development gave it a big 4346 03:28:37,560 --> 03:28:39,899 favorable sport for similar reasons to 4347 03:28:39,899 --> 03:28:43,260 you highlighting the impactful Outreach 4348 03:28:43,260 --> 03:28:45,120 of that organization I was going to 4349 03:28:45,120 --> 03:28:46,800 recommend that that is something that we 4350 03:28:46,800 --> 03:28:51,229 consider 4351 03:28:51,239 --> 03:28:53,460 so perhaps what we could do is take that 4352 03:28:53,460 --> 03:28:54,720 application 4353 03:28:54,720 --> 03:28:57,420 has already been submitted and changed 4354 03:28:57,420 --> 03:29:01,550 the chain that John is suggesting 4355 03:29:01,560 --> 03:29:08,690 [Music] 4356 03:29:08,700 --> 03:29:10,500 well is it the same is this the same 4357 03:29:10,500 --> 03:29:12,300 agreement in terms of baseball I'm 4358 03:29:12,300 --> 03:29:13,620 talking about in terms of what Carl's 4359 03:29:13,620 --> 03:29:16,040 saying Mr Williams 4360 03:29:16,040 --> 03:29:17,580 legislation 4361 03:29:17,580 --> 03:29:20,819 Miss Porterfield I understood Mr Harmony 4362 03:29:20,819 --> 03:29:22,859 correctly it would not just include 4363 03:29:22,859 --> 03:29:24,540 Schenectady Little League it would 4364 03:29:24,540 --> 03:29:27,859 include a number of other organizations 4365 03:29:27,859 --> 03:29:31,500 both organizations are tied together 4366 03:29:31,500 --> 03:29:32,580 um has 4367 03:29:32,580 --> 03:29:35,460 there's the Babe Ruth field as well but 4368 03:29:35,460 --> 03:29:38,220 there's also a soccer field and maybe 4369 03:29:38,220 --> 03:29:40,500 basically just give them the opportunity 4370 03:29:40,500 --> 03:29:44,040 to let kids play for free and I think 4371 03:29:44,040 --> 03:29:46,140 that's a lot worth 4372 03:29:46,140 --> 03:29:48,960 so what was submitted was on Schenectady 4373 03:29:48,960 --> 03:29:50,700 New Little League slash Schenectady Blue 4374 03:29:50,700 --> 03:29:52,319 Jays are those two organizations you're 4375 03:29:52,319 --> 03:29:58,140 talking about two rows okay sir so two or seven two of seven I'm sorry oh 4376 03:29:58,140 --> 03:30:00,960 several okay so 4377 03:30:00,960 --> 03:30:02,880 um to your point I don't know that we 4378 03:30:02,880 --> 03:30:04,859 can add other people to someone else's 4379 03:30:04,859 --> 03:30:08,870 application 4380 03:30:08,880 --> 03:30:10,800 because it was only those two others 4381 03:30:10,800 --> 03:30:11,939 umbrella is there an umbrella 4382 03:30:11,939 --> 03:30:14,640 organization but you know you want to do 4383 03:30:14,640 --> 03:30:16,739 the 350 4384 03:30:16,739 --> 03:30:21,060 000 and uh the 6.05 for the remainder of 4385 03:30:21,060 --> 03:30:24,300 the projects that are listed yeah I will 4386 03:30:24,300 --> 03:30:27,830 compromise 4387 03:30:27,840 --> 03:30:38,570 right 4388 03:30:38,580 --> 03:30:50,950 protein food some tennis pool repairs 4389 03:30:50,960 --> 03:30:53,220 well you know I was gonna go for all the 4390 03:30:53,220 --> 03:30:55,700 Park prices 4391 03:30:55,700 --> 03:30:58,739 how much on that so 4392 03:30:58,739 --> 03:31:06,950 is true 4393 03:31:06,960 --> 03:31:10,020 go ahead the skate park on the 4394 03:31:10,020 --> 03:31:11,700 skateboard actually where would we 4395 03:31:11,700 --> 03:31:13,700 consider that 4396 03:31:13,700 --> 03:31:17,899 actually that's a good point uh 4397 03:31:17,899 --> 03:31:24,349 the site is under negotiation 4398 03:31:24,359 --> 03:31:26,660 Council has to go into executive session 4399 03:31:26,660 --> 03:31:29,580 oh that's okay I just thought about who 4400 03:31:29,580 --> 03:31:31,520 like let's fast forward 4401 03:31:31,520 --> 03:31:33,960 sure if you have a spot for it we would 4402 03:31:33,960 --> 03:31:49,969 actively consider it 4403 03:31:49,979 --> 03:31:53,340 it's good it does doesn't it he's saying 4404 03:31:53,340 --> 03:31:57,290 there's no application oh okay great 4405 03:31:57,300 --> 03:32:07,330 sorry a lot of upgrades for Front Street 4406 03:32:07,340 --> 03:32:10,319 well I was actually when I blanketly 4407 03:32:10,319 --> 03:32:12,060 said I was coming to support all of our 4408 03:32:12,060 --> 03:32:13,560 projects I did have some questions about 4409 03:32:13,560 --> 03:32:15,660 the skatepark but we don't have an 4410 03:32:15,660 --> 03:32:17,180 application and 4411 03:32:17,180 --> 03:32:19,920 but it is something that obviously 4412 03:32:19,920 --> 03:32:22,200 it caused concern and there's a lot of 4413 03:32:22,200 --> 03:32:25,630 liability 4414 03:32:25,640 --> 03:32:28,160 part that has been 4415 03:32:28,160 --> 03:32:32,520 sort of which I said informally 4416 03:32:32,520 --> 03:32:35,760 in place without any uh of us actually 4417 03:32:35,760 --> 03:32:38,720 wanting that particular place to be in 4418 03:32:38,720 --> 03:32:42,000 so you know but I wanted I didn't want 4419 03:32:42,000 --> 03:32:45,550 to talk about the skin care 4420 03:32:45,560 --> 03:32:49,380 I think um I want to uh I just want to 4421 03:32:49,380 --> 03:32:52,439 lend support to Mr probably means about 4422 03:32:52,439 --> 03:32:56,040 the applications for a little league I'm 4423 03:32:56,040 --> 03:32:58,140 full support of that 4424 03:32:58,140 --> 03:33:01,130 um 4425 03:33:01,140 --> 03:33:03,060 don't have any other things we're going 4426 03:33:03,060 --> 03:33:06,790 to get to but um 4427 03:33:06,800 --> 03:33:09,000 it seems as though we are going around 4428 03:33:09,000 --> 03:33:11,880 the Halloween civilians in terms of this 4429 03:33:11,880 --> 03:33:14,460 connected Italy 4430 03:33:14,460 --> 03:33:16,319 a number of mentioned what was that 4431 03:33:16,319 --> 03:33:18,140 number 4432 03:33:18,140 --> 03:33:21,960 350 350 000. let the kids play ball you 4433 03:33:21,960 --> 03:33:30,110 know we can Congress okay 4434 03:33:30,120 --> 03:33:34,090 um 4435 03:33:34,100 --> 03:33:38,650 anyway 4436 03:33:38,660 --> 03:33:42,300 so but again playing into all the parks 4437 03:33:42,300 --> 03:33:50,349 there and all the money 4438 03:33:50,359 --> 03:33:53,479 oh it's true 4439 03:33:53,479 --> 03:33:57,359 yes so anyway as far as um all the parts 4440 03:33:57,359 --> 03:33:59,460 I again 4441 03:33:59,460 --> 03:34:01,620 we've worked for the entire city the 4442 03:34:01,620 --> 03:34:03,479 entire Community especially the youth 4443 03:34:03,479 --> 03:34:05,939 again they're part of who's going to be 4444 03:34:05,939 --> 03:34:07,739 here living in the cities promoting our 4445 03:34:07,739 --> 03:34:09,319 city 4446 03:34:09,319 --> 03:34:15,290 so I informed Mr palamani's plan 4447 03:34:15,300 --> 03:34:18,899 of Oklahoma allocation with them 4448 03:34:18,899 --> 03:34:21,239 Revolution 4449 03:34:21,239 --> 03:34:24,200 it's connected literally 4450 03:34:24,200 --> 03:34:26,100 full support of the tree on the 4451 03:34:26,100 --> 03:34:28,500 development Lobby on occasion so that of 4452 03:34:28,500 --> 03:34:37,030 course 4453 03:34:37,040 --> 03:34:40,140 yes absolutely 4454 03:34:40,140 --> 03:34:42,000 Mr Williams 4455 03:34:42,000 --> 03:34:44,100 that's Quarterfield yes I am the support 4456 03:34:44,100 --> 03:34:47,340 of that so we are funding 350 000 in 4457 03:34:47,340 --> 03:34:49,260 Schenectady little league is there any 4458 03:34:49,260 --> 03:34:53,960 other additional name to horses 4459 03:34:53,970 --> 03:34:57,429 [Music] 4460 03:34:57,439 --> 03:35:01,200 okay perfect thank you and I'd like us 4461 03:35:01,200 --> 03:35:03,840 if there's I can understand that there's 4462 03:35:03,840 --> 03:35:07,319 concern about the skate park so 5.05 4463 03:35:07,319 --> 03:35:09,120 then for the remainder of the pool 4464 03:35:09,120 --> 03:35:11,020 projects 4465 03:35:11,020 --> 03:35:14,000 [Music] 4466 03:35:14,000 --> 03:35:16,800 projects I initially said pool 4467 03:35:16,800 --> 03:35:19,460 I was like we can't find that two times 4468 03:35:19,460 --> 03:35:22,220 it's okay 4469 03:35:22,220 --> 03:35:26,040 so it takes out the skate project for 4470 03:35:26,040 --> 03:35:28,160 further discussion 4471 03:35:28,160 --> 03:35:30,899 and it funds the rest of the parts 4472 03:35:30,899 --> 03:35:34,859 projects which are so really needed but 4473 03:35:34,859 --> 03:35:58,130 um 4474 03:35:58,140 --> 03:36:02,269 for 4475 03:36:02,279 --> 03:36:04,439 the contestants on the funding the 4476 03:36:04,439 --> 03:36:05,399 entire 4477 03:36:05,399 --> 03:36:11,809 Parks projects excluding the Escape Park 4478 03:36:11,819 --> 03:36:13,680 that's probably me 4479 03:36:13,680 --> 03:36:18,600 yes I have to do it it's just China yeah 4480 03:36:18,600 --> 03:36:22,010 this the total 4481 03:36:22,020 --> 03:36:30,590 yes yes Safari 4482 03:36:30,600 --> 03:36:33,359 now for the on for the amount that we're 4483 03:36:33,359 --> 03:36:36,060 talking about I think that now I'm we're 4484 03:36:36,060 --> 03:36:37,800 at a point where I want to fully fund 4485 03:36:37,800 --> 03:36:38,640 the 4486 03:36:38,640 --> 03:36:40,200 um little league and I think that you 4487 03:36:40,200 --> 03:36:42,180 know at this point I think we need to 4488 03:36:42,180 --> 03:36:46,200 recruit so at that point 4489 03:36:46,200 --> 03:36:48,420 none of the other department project 4490 03:36:48,420 --> 03:36:50,520 just 4491 03:36:50,520 --> 03:36:51,420 um 4492 03:36:51,420 --> 03:36:54,420 for the connective literally yes and 4493 03:36:54,420 --> 03:37:08,769 then I'm not saying that 4494 03:37:08,779 --> 03:37:10,800 Mr Williams 4495 03:37:10,800 --> 03:37:13,319 I said dudes and not having a formal 4496 03:37:13,319 --> 03:37:16,080 application I think it is important for 4497 03:37:16,080 --> 03:37:18,300 us to eventually discuss having a second 4498 03:37:18,300 --> 03:37:22,620 phase of applications which I would then 4499 03:37:22,620 --> 03:37:24,720 the size to the city or any other person 4500 03:37:24,720 --> 03:37:27,300 listening to submit a formal application 4501 03:37:27,300 --> 03:37:28,920 so that we would have something to 4502 03:37:28,920 --> 03:37:31,319 actually vote on for that reason I am 4503 03:37:31,319 --> 03:37:32,640 not in support of this analogy 4504 03:37:32,640 --> 03:37:37,030 interrogation 4505 03:37:37,040 --> 03:37:39,359 well in order to do the parks and 4506 03:37:39,359 --> 03:37:42,000 anything else it's a good idea but I 4507 03:37:42,000 --> 03:37:43,739 would like to see a plan and I haven't 4508 03:37:43,739 --> 03:37:46,200 seen one so I think that it's vitally 4509 03:37:46,200 --> 03:37:47,760 important that as we're considering it 4510 03:37:47,760 --> 03:37:50,939 look at what the plan as there's a 4511 03:37:50,939 --> 03:37:52,920 description here however I have not seen 4512 03:37:52,920 --> 03:37:55,260 a plan about anything beyond well 4513 03:37:55,260 --> 03:37:57,840 Jeremiah we did see a plan in the 4514 03:37:57,840 --> 03:37:58,979 discussions around lighting but other 4515 03:37:58,979 --> 03:38:00,479 than that we've not seen a plan around 4516 03:38:00,479 --> 03:38:02,819 it so um as we did with the golf course 4517 03:38:02,819 --> 03:38:04,620 as we did with Central Park we did see a 4518 03:38:04,620 --> 03:38:06,840 plan and so I would like prefer to see 4519 03:38:06,840 --> 03:38:10,800 that before before giving an affirmative 4520 03:38:10,800 --> 03:38:14,040 yeah same here with me because I mean I 4521 03:38:14,040 --> 03:38:15,779 appreciate me sending us this over the 4522 03:38:15,779 --> 03:38:17,160 weekend on Saturday and then the 4523 03:38:17,160 --> 03:38:19,080 description came into the this afternoon 4524 03:38:19,080 --> 03:38:22,500 with two updates I think I mean it 4525 03:38:22,500 --> 03:38:23,700 wouldn't hurt I mean I have nothing 4526 03:38:23,700 --> 03:38:25,319 against supporting his pathways on the 4527 03:38:25,319 --> 03:38:28,140 Harvest so um Safari clearly mentioned 4528 03:38:28,140 --> 03:38:32,220 Let's uh recruit I can agree time and 4529 03:38:32,220 --> 03:38:34,920 let's continue to discuss these and to 4530 03:38:34,920 --> 03:38:47,689 move forward and Performing these 4531 03:38:47,699 --> 03:38:49,439 some point in time to continue to 4532 03:38:49,439 --> 03:38:59,990 discuss these foreign 4533 03:39:00,000 --> 03:39:11,910 years 4534 03:39:11,920 --> 03:39:16,070 [Music] 4535 03:39:16,080 --> 03:39:19,620 again in that neighborhood I think that 4536 03:39:19,620 --> 03:39:21,720 if we had the a diamond Lighting in 4537 03:39:21,720 --> 03:39:23,580 Central Park would be able to expand 4538 03:39:23,580 --> 03:39:26,100 what we do in terms of tournaments at 4539 03:39:26,100 --> 03:39:27,720 night time to bring in Revenue to the 4540 03:39:27,720 --> 03:39:28,979 city but 4541 03:39:28,979 --> 03:39:30,899 talking about the Central Park tennis 4542 03:39:30,899 --> 03:39:34,140 courts repairs I know for myself the 4543 03:39:34,140 --> 03:39:35,939 Central Park General site improvements 4544 03:39:35,939 --> 03:39:38,220 include things like lighting and music 4545 03:39:38,220 --> 03:39:41,399 Haven I 4546 03:39:41,399 --> 03:39:43,800 roadway work some of I think some of the 4547 03:39:43,800 --> 03:39:46,140 parking I'm not sure about that 4548 03:39:46,140 --> 03:39:47,760 um these are things that we have been 4549 03:39:47,760 --> 03:39:49,920 talking about by the way 4550 03:39:49,920 --> 03:39:50,819 um 4551 03:39:50,819 --> 03:39:53,160 I know that the county is going to be 4552 03:39:53,160 --> 03:39:54,779 giving us money and the county is 4553 03:39:54,779 --> 03:39:57,540 waiting for us the county is sitting on 4554 03:39:57,540 --> 03:40:00,540 money but they want to hand to us I've 4555 03:40:00,540 --> 03:40:02,939 had two different phone calls again due 4556 03:40:02,939 --> 03:40:04,439 to my role 4557 03:40:04,439 --> 03:40:07,199 charge of that committee from two 4558 03:40:07,199 --> 03:40:08,699 different County Legends oh actually I 4559 03:40:08,699 --> 03:40:10,380 talked to three County legislators this 4560 03:40:10,380 --> 03:40:13,800 week we're all uh just waiting for us so 4561 03:40:13,800 --> 03:40:15,479 that they can hand us quite a lot of 4562 03:40:15,479 --> 03:40:17,699 money from their article funding funding 4563 03:40:17,699 --> 03:40:20,580 for the spark repairs so I totally think 4564 03:40:20,580 --> 03:40:21,840 that we should be moving forward with 4565 03:40:21,840 --> 03:40:25,939 the park Affairs I also want to say that 4566 03:40:25,939 --> 03:40:27,899 I don't know when we would meet again 4567 03:40:27,899 --> 03:40:30,239 but I'm on vacation next week and I'm 4568 03:40:30,239 --> 03:40:31,620 having surgery 4569 03:40:31,620 --> 03:40:36,590 six so um 4570 03:40:36,600 --> 03:40:40,670 stuff 4571 03:40:40,680 --> 03:40:43,020 let's go ahead miss somebody else so 4572 03:40:43,020 --> 03:40:45,840 I've seen just for single clarifying I 4573 03:40:45,840 --> 03:40:48,000 think can considering honestly 4574 03:40:48,000 --> 03:40:50,399 honest locations blatantly discredits 4575 03:40:50,399 --> 03:40:52,500 applications that were submitted I'm not 4576 03:40:52,500 --> 03:40:54,540 saying that I'm not in support of doing 4577 03:40:54,540 --> 03:40:56,220 these these developments on the Central 4578 03:40:56,220 --> 03:40:58,800 Park Pool I'm just saying there needs to 4579 03:40:58,800 --> 03:40:59,640 be 4580 03:40:59,640 --> 03:41:01,080 the considerations for the products that 4581 03:41:01,080 --> 03:41:02,699 were submitted if not for the very 4582 03:41:02,699 --> 03:41:05,160 reason of why we selected the snipe lead 4583 03:41:05,160 --> 03:41:07,380 Little League which was not on this list 4584 03:41:07,380 --> 03:41:10,020 and why it's important for us to do the 4585 03:41:10,020 --> 03:41:11,640 due diligence and look through each 4586 03:41:11,640 --> 03:41:14,640 application so I 4587 03:41:14,640 --> 03:41:17,040 forward having a second phase of 4588 03:41:17,040 --> 03:41:19,920 applications reserving some money for 4589 03:41:19,920 --> 03:41:22,020 that reason but also to make sure we 4590 03:41:22,020 --> 03:41:24,479 capture objects potentially in the north 4591 03:41:24,479 --> 03:41:26,939 side and challenging each of us to make 4592 03:41:26,939 --> 03:41:28,859 sure we carry this measurement into the 4593 03:41:28,859 --> 03:41:31,380 community submit an application 4594 03:41:31,380 --> 03:41:33,300 and if you have any issues reach out to 4595 03:41:33,300 --> 03:41:35,580 our planning and development office but 4596 03:41:35,580 --> 03:41:38,040 get an application submitted and we'll 4597 03:41:38,040 --> 03:41:41,950 review 4598 03:41:41,960 --> 03:41:44,939 I'll just go back to Mr Paul when he was 4599 03:41:44,939 --> 03:41:46,319 talking about the stimulus Park I mean 4600 03:41:46,319 --> 03:41:48,600 this is a good opportunity civilians 4601 03:41:48,600 --> 03:41:51,420 mentioning to encourage that agency out 4602 03:41:51,420 --> 03:41:53,760 there to submit an application so that 4603 03:41:53,760 --> 03:41:55,739 it can be put into consideration and 4604 03:41:55,739 --> 03:41:58,979 discussion by this Council please sorry 4605 03:41:58,979 --> 03:42:01,460 with all due respect to both of you now 4606 03:42:01,460 --> 03:42:05,520 and I and to the mayor 4607 03:42:05,520 --> 03:42:06,899 of the bear or another round of 4608 03:42:06,899 --> 03:42:09,600 occasions I think that I have to say and 4609 03:42:09,600 --> 03:42:11,100 I know that the mayor knows this I would 4610 03:42:11,100 --> 03:42:13,560 not have done this to begin with I think 4611 03:42:13,560 --> 03:42:15,300 that there are really priority projects 4612 03:42:15,300 --> 03:42:16,260 in the city 4613 03:42:16,260 --> 03:42:17,640 should have been funded through this 4614 03:42:17,640 --> 03:42:21,840 ARCA funding with our Grant application 4615 03:42:21,840 --> 03:42:25,920 for my absolutely absolutely would not 4616 03:42:25,920 --> 03:42:28,319 want to put money aside again to go 4617 03:42:28,319 --> 03:42:32,279 through this process we've delayed and delayed and part of the 4618 03:42:32,279 --> 03:42:34,140 reason for the delay was yes that the 4619 03:42:34,140 --> 03:42:35,520 committee met and we didn't see the 4620 03:42:35,520 --> 03:42:37,140 information that came back from home 4621 03:42:37,140 --> 03:42:38,880 committee so I want to publicly say that 4622 03:42:38,880 --> 03:42:43,560 as well so therefore I absolutely would 4623 03:42:43,560 --> 03:42:46,800 adamantly impose reopening the Grant 4624 03:42:46,800 --> 03:42:50,160 application and with apologies for your 4625 03:42:50,160 --> 03:42:53,760 new project as well and in respecting 4626 03:42:53,760 --> 03:42:55,620 what you're saying but that's how I feel 4627 03:42:55,620 --> 03:42:57,300 especially given my background in 4628 03:42:57,300 --> 03:42:58,739 development we had this conversation 4629 03:42:58,739 --> 03:43:02,160 actually months ago and I think several 4630 03:43:02,160 --> 03:43:03,479 of us were good reasons that we weren't 4631 03:43:03,479 --> 03:43:05,340 going to do around two of Grant 4632 03:43:05,340 --> 03:43:09,950 applications 4633 03:43:09,960 --> 03:43:13,380 so I totally am in agreement of no 4634 03:43:13,380 --> 03:43:15,840 additional applications this is one of 4635 03:43:15,840 --> 03:43:18,479 the most screwed up processes I've ever 4636 03:43:18,479 --> 03:43:22,080 been part of I've told the Meredith I've 4637 03:43:22,080 --> 03:43:23,899 made it public 4638 03:43:23,899 --> 03:43:28,279 and maybe not quite as blunt as that but 4639 03:43:28,279 --> 03:43:31,920 we have review applications where we ask 4640 03:43:31,920 --> 03:43:34,260 people to put a lot of time and effort 4641 03:43:34,260 --> 03:43:36,960 in and quite frankly the way the app the 4642 03:43:36,960 --> 03:43:39,300 reviews were done they're mostly 4643 03:43:39,300 --> 03:43:41,580 meaningless unfortunately and that's sad 4644 03:43:41,580 --> 03:43:44,220 to say even we asked people to put a lot 4645 03:43:44,220 --> 03:43:45,779 of hard time and effort 4646 03:43:45,779 --> 03:43:48,080 you can shake your head now 4647 03:43:48,080 --> 03:43:52,140 let me just explain please so we have 4648 03:43:52,140 --> 03:43:54,060 different categories 4649 03:43:54,060 --> 03:43:56,760 and some have been reviewed fully some 4650 03:43:56,760 --> 03:43:59,580 pattern but there's no way to compare 4651 03:43:59,580 --> 03:44:03,300 the cost categories either so because of 4652 03:44:03,300 --> 03:44:05,880 that the review 4653 03:44:05,880 --> 03:44:09,840 is not a complete review it's you're 4654 03:44:09,840 --> 03:44:11,640 comparing apples with oranges you're not 4655 03:44:11,640 --> 03:44:13,979 comparing apples or lettuce and that's 4656 03:44:13,979 --> 03:44:19,380 why that process doesn't work and 4657 03:44:19,380 --> 03:44:21,979 um you know we have an opportunity to 4658 03:44:21,979 --> 03:44:25,739 fund our Parks put money towards the 4659 03:44:25,739 --> 03:44:27,899 parks we hear that constantly from 4660 03:44:27,899 --> 03:44:29,460 people 4661 03:44:29,460 --> 03:44:32,340 um we have been inconsistent the only 4662 03:44:32,340 --> 03:44:33,600 thing we've been consistent about 4663 03:44:33,600 --> 03:44:36,180 tonight is being inconsistent about how 4664 03:44:36,180 --> 03:44:38,580 we go about these reviews 4665 03:44:38,580 --> 03:44:41,100 um we have one set for 4666 03:44:41,100 --> 03:44:43,319 one situation and another situational 4667 03:44:43,319 --> 03:44:45,180 it's something else 4668 03:44:45,180 --> 03:44:47,100 and 4669 03:44:47,100 --> 03:44:51,000 how is that a good process 4670 03:44:51,000 --> 03:44:53,160 um we have an opportunity to fund our 4671 03:44:53,160 --> 03:44:54,359 parks 4672 03:44:54,359 --> 03:44:57,840 and the only application that 4673 03:44:57,840 --> 03:45:01,560 I'm looking quickly that I see that 4674 03:45:01,560 --> 03:45:03,960 then on here's the skate parks which I'm 4675 03:45:03,960 --> 03:45:05,640 fine taking out 4676 03:45:05,640 --> 03:45:08,100 of the considerations 4677 03:45:08,100 --> 03:45:10,800 but these rest are pretty well described 4678 03:45:10,800 --> 03:45:14,100 here so 4679 03:45:14,100 --> 03:45:16,380 kind of where I'm at these you know 4680 03:45:16,380 --> 03:45:18,300 having extra meetings I don't think 4681 03:45:18,300 --> 03:45:28,210 solves anything 4682 03:45:28,220 --> 03:45:30,540 I mean not everybody had an opportunity 4683 03:45:30,540 --> 03:45:32,640 to dive into this and to kind of you 4684 03:45:32,640 --> 03:45:34,500 know get to understand exactly what is 4685 03:45:34,500 --> 03:45:36,120 happening into each of these 4686 03:45:36,120 --> 03:45:39,359 projects so I think it's fair that we I 4687 03:45:39,359 --> 03:45:40,800 understand I don't think anybody is 4688 03:45:40,800 --> 03:45:42,899 doing that we're not funding for 1940s 4689 03:45:42,899 --> 03:45:45,779 or they said give them an opportunity to 4690 03:45:45,779 --> 03:45:47,460 come back and we recruit and come back 4691 03:45:47,460 --> 03:45:49,500 as Mr Farley mentioned and look into 4692 03:45:49,500 --> 03:45:51,060 these in 4693 03:45:51,060 --> 03:45:53,880 everything is be consistent yes we've 4694 03:45:53,880 --> 03:45:55,859 had other ones in a similar situation 4695 03:45:55,859 --> 03:45:58,800 which we funded tonight and now we're 4696 03:45:58,800 --> 03:46:13,689 not even with no description to allow 4697 03:46:13,699 --> 03:46:16,260 unanimous consent possible because we 4698 03:46:16,260 --> 03:46:18,779 know the impact of that program if there 4699 03:46:18,779 --> 03:46:22,080 was an application yeah they have they 4700 03:46:22,080 --> 03:46:24,300 had something that application well I 4701 03:46:24,300 --> 03:46:26,399 mean again because again I also want to 4702 03:46:26,399 --> 03:46:27,720 point out that 4703 03:46:27,720 --> 03:46:29,520 we haven't talked about it but I think 4704 03:46:29,520 --> 03:46:31,800 another important piece of this puzzle 4705 03:46:31,800 --> 03:46:34,439 is streets and sidewalk information 4706 03:46:34,439 --> 03:46:36,239 and again if we leave this on the table 4707 03:46:36,239 --> 03:46:37,319 again 4708 03:46:37,319 --> 03:46:39,720 um I I just feel like we should be 4709 03:46:39,720 --> 03:46:42,720 spending money okay so I don't think I 4710 03:46:42,720 --> 03:46:43,920 don't think we have the Missouri I think 4711 03:46:43,920 --> 03:46:45,479 we have the majority that is saying that 4712 03:46:45,479 --> 03:46:47,580 let's hold this or for the discussion 4713 03:46:47,580 --> 03:46:49,979 on the parts improvements and we'll go 4714 03:46:49,979 --> 03:46:51,239 to your 4715 03:46:51,239 --> 03:46:53,840 place 4716 03:46:53,840 --> 03:46:56,340 we were finishing our conversation and 4717 03:46:56,340 --> 03:46:57,840 trying to hold the rest of it for 4718 03:46:57,840 --> 03:47:06,130 another night 4719 03:47:06,140 --> 03:47:09,120 and have one more item and then we'll 4720 03:47:09,120 --> 03:47:11,399 try to see if we got a review well I 4721 03:47:11,399 --> 03:47:13,199 also want to say the land bank I think 4722 03:47:13,199 --> 03:47:15,540 is also really important but 4723 03:47:15,540 --> 03:47:17,640 um but the streets and the other 4724 03:47:17,640 --> 03:47:20,160 infrastructure projects that also need 4725 03:47:20,160 --> 03:47:21,779 to be done by the city 4726 03:47:21,779 --> 03:47:24,060 um I think that we hear constantly from 4727 03:47:24,060 --> 03:47:25,859 our residents 4728 03:47:25,859 --> 03:47:27,899 about problems with 4729 03:47:27,899 --> 03:47:29,939 the Stellar infrastructure needs 4730 03:47:29,939 --> 03:47:31,920 and that's important as well 4731 03:47:31,920 --> 03:47:36,490 it certainly goes across the city 4732 03:47:36,500 --> 03:47:38,580 McCarthy is doing a fantastic job this 4733 03:47:38,580 --> 03:47:40,620 year in the paving streets across the 4734 03:47:40,620 --> 03:47:42,180 city yeah so we have the car that went 4735 03:47:42,180 --> 03:47:49,490 down there and there's a lot of things 4736 03:47:49,500 --> 03:47:51,720 whatever we deciding here to compliment 4737 03:47:51,720 --> 03:47:54,180 what he's doing but I'm more Paving 4738 03:47:54,180 --> 03:47:56,460 towards streets inside the water so it's 4739 03:47:56,460 --> 03:47:59,399 a discussion in terms of the sidewalk 4740 03:47:59,399 --> 03:48:02,160 it's city streets inside the box it's 4741 03:48:02,160 --> 03:48:05,399 gonna get that money put in where it 4742 03:48:05,399 --> 03:48:07,800 could be streets but 4743 03:48:07,800 --> 03:48:10,500 the council has moved and a couple of 4744 03:48:10,500 --> 03:48:13,680 the sidewalk proposals We've Ended up 4745 03:48:13,680 --> 03:48:16,620 subsidizing it in that model you know 4746 03:48:16,620 --> 03:48:17,880 it's 4747 03:48:17,880 --> 03:48:19,800 still somewhat fluid for getting numbers 4748 03:48:19,800 --> 03:48:22,739 to work but we all know the need for 4749 03:48:22,739 --> 03:48:24,960 sidewalk replacement here and how do we 4750 03:48:24,960 --> 03:48:26,880 structure 4751 03:48:26,880 --> 03:48:29,220 plans that those aren't the Historical 4752 03:48:29,220 --> 03:48:31,140 Method by which those sidewalks are put 4753 03:48:31,140 --> 03:48:33,359 in place but working with the property 4754 03:48:33,359 --> 03:48:36,840 owners to provide some incentive to 4755 03:48:36,840 --> 03:48:39,660 again upgrade their sidewalks and to do 4756 03:48:39,660 --> 03:48:42,540 you know whole streets because we all 4757 03:48:42,540 --> 03:48:45,180 know what a dramatic difference it makes 4758 03:48:45,180 --> 03:48:48,479 when the street is done and upgraded I'm 4759 03:48:48,479 --> 03:48:49,920 not just follow up I'm glad you 4760 03:48:49,920 --> 03:48:50,819 mentioned that because I was going to 4761 03:48:50,819 --> 03:48:52,439 ask the same question or do you have our 4762 03:48:52,439 --> 03:48:55,140 project plan in place what it is I just 4763 03:48:55,140 --> 03:48:57,720 wanted to stole it a lot of the consoles 4764 03:48:57,720 --> 03:49:00,060 working with where you're subsidizing 4765 03:49:00,060 --> 03:49:02,100 the sidewalk replacement where you know 4766 03:49:02,100 --> 03:49:04,859 the homeowner is paying some of it and 4767 03:49:04,859 --> 03:49:07,260 putting that money there so that we can 4768 03:49:07,260 --> 03:49:09,720 continue to do that model going forward 4769 03:49:09,720 --> 03:49:11,580 even though I'm not quite sure what the 4770 03:49:11,580 --> 03:49:14,220 numbers would be I think uh talking a 4771 03:49:14,220 --> 03:49:16,680 little subsidizing I think we um was it 4772 03:49:16,680 --> 03:49:18,899 a Cottage Street there's a midday 4773 03:49:18,899 --> 03:49:20,220 petition and I think we send them back 4774 03:49:20,220 --> 03:49:23,530 to everyone so um 4775 03:49:23,540 --> 03:49:37,150 we're getting the 4776 03:49:37,160 --> 03:49:40,260 I think the end was to get the numbers 4777 03:49:40,260 --> 03:49:42,420 first and then discuss whether we 4778 03:49:42,420 --> 03:49:44,939 subsidized something as well because I 4779 03:49:44,939 --> 03:49:47,160 think we discussed that with both the 4780 03:49:47,160 --> 03:49:49,020 proposal also go harder than whatever we 4781 03:49:49,020 --> 03:49:51,060 have and whatever the difference we 4782 03:49:51,060 --> 03:49:53,870 subsidized 4783 03:49:53,880 --> 03:50:01,969 to pass the full cost to the foreign 4784 03:50:01,979 --> 03:50:03,779 still waiting for the numbers now yeah 4785 03:50:03,779 --> 03:50:05,819 okay there's a couple other streets that 4786 03:50:05,819 --> 03:50:08,399 are waiting for stuff too 4787 03:50:08,399 --> 03:50:12,000 so in terms of uh in terms of the street 4788 03:50:12,000 --> 03:50:14,399 Paving streets and the sidewalks I mean 4789 03:50:14,399 --> 03:50:16,260 would it be 4790 03:50:16,260 --> 03:50:18,000 if we ask for a brief description of 4791 03:50:18,000 --> 03:50:20,340 what disclosure continues in terms of 4792 03:50:20,340 --> 03:50:21,720 rather than saying it's marijuana we're 4793 03:50:21,720 --> 03:50:23,699 doing because we're we're not doing a 4794 03:50:23,699 --> 03:50:25,380 lot in terms of the sidewalk program not 4795 03:50:25,380 --> 03:50:27,660 everybody signing competitions so I get 4796 03:50:27,660 --> 03:50:29,279 the city engineer here at your next 4797 03:50:29,279 --> 03:50:31,020 meeting and he'll give you the update on 4798 03:50:31,020 --> 03:50:31,859 the 10 4799 03:50:31,859 --> 03:50:34,920 so North College and what I'm going 4800 03:50:34,920 --> 03:50:41,450 forward on regards on this 3.5 yes yes 4801 03:50:41,460 --> 03:50:44,760 fun the weekend I just don't think it's 4802 03:50:44,760 --> 03:50:47,300 enough money 4803 03:50:47,310 --> 03:50:48,439 [Music] 4804 03:50:48,439 --> 03:50:50,939 I guess three and a half million won't 4805 03:50:50,939 --> 03:50:53,640 go very far and we've got a lot of 4806 03:50:53,640 --> 03:50:56,100 problems with manifold covers that need 4807 03:50:56,100 --> 03:50:58,560 to be built up yep I mean let's face it 4808 03:50:58,560 --> 03:51:01,580 we drive down the road and get Whiplash 4809 03:51:01,580 --> 03:51:03,899 you know there's other things that need 4810 03:51:03,899 --> 03:51:06,660 to be fixed in terms of curbing but I 4811 03:51:06,660 --> 03:51:07,800 really think we should look into 4812 03:51:07,800 --> 03:51:10,920 alternative curving and cement and in 4813 03:51:10,920 --> 03:51:13,800 certain areas but also the sidewalks are 4814 03:51:13,800 --> 03:51:16,020 a major problem and three and a half 4815 03:51:16,020 --> 03:51:22,510 million is a scratch okay all right 4816 03:51:22,520 --> 03:51:24,600 proposal that I would like to bring to 4817 03:51:24,600 --> 03:51:26,640 the table for discussion and 4818 03:51:26,640 --> 03:51:30,020 the capital regional Aquatic Center 4819 03:51:30,020 --> 03:51:34,859 this item is called favorable about the 4820 03:51:34,859 --> 03:51:37,319 participant and I'm asking us to put it 4821 03:51:37,319 --> 03:51:39,120 on the table for discussions of column 4822 03:51:39,120 --> 03:51:41,160 of 2.5 million dollars 4823 03:51:41,160 --> 03:51:43,880 with a contingency that they will seek 4824 03:51:43,880 --> 03:51:46,140 additional funding or 4825 03:51:46,140 --> 03:51:48,720 close to fully funded by the end of this 4826 03:51:48,720 --> 03:51:49,620 year 4827 03:51:49,620 --> 03:51:51,960 so 2.5 million of us set aside to the 4828 03:51:51,960 --> 03:51:54,359 Aquatic Center with a contingency that 4829 03:51:54,359 --> 03:51:56,340 they work towards 4830 03:51:56,340 --> 03:51:58,500 for additional funding 4831 03:51:58,500 --> 03:52:00,180 by the end of this year something 4832 03:52:00,180 --> 03:52:01,680 similar to what the country the company 4833 03:52:01,680 --> 03:52:04,140 has is proposing five million dollars 4834 03:52:04,140 --> 03:52:07,199 with a contingency of the end of 4835 03:52:07,199 --> 03:52:11,100 December to come up with a plan of where 4836 03:52:11,100 --> 03:52:12,600 they are in terms of seeking additional 4837 03:52:12,600 --> 03:52:14,699 funding so I want to put this there is 4838 03:52:14,699 --> 03:52:16,260 something that application is not an 4839 03:52:16,260 --> 03:52:18,960 amazing also but where we are in terms 4840 03:52:18,960 --> 03:52:22,859 of as a member of this Council Mr follow 4841 03:52:22,859 --> 03:52:25,080 me thank you support this project 4842 03:52:25,080 --> 03:52:26,819 however I think there's a big difference 4843 03:52:26,819 --> 03:52:28,979 between us and the county first of all 4844 03:52:28,979 --> 03:52:30,779 the county is June 5 million yes that's 4845 03:52:30,779 --> 03:52:34,140 great but the county is also going to 4846 03:52:34,140 --> 03:52:36,479 generate a lot of tax revenue for 4847 03:52:36,479 --> 03:52:38,880 themselves we do get part of it it's a 4848 03:52:38,880 --> 03:52:42,300 fraction of that if we were to do two 4849 03:52:42,300 --> 03:52:44,880 and a half the amount of time for us to 4850 03:52:44,880 --> 03:52:46,979 recoup our two and a half million 4851 03:52:46,979 --> 03:52:50,399 dollars would be quite frankly so I 4852 03:52:50,399 --> 03:52:52,800 either propose a million or if we do two 4853 03:52:52,800 --> 03:52:56,120 and a half ask the county to 4854 03:52:56,120 --> 03:52:59,160 re-evaluate the county tax agreement 4855 03:52:59,160 --> 03:53:02,279 where we get a percentage of the FED tax 4856 03:53:02,279 --> 03:53:04,939 which we currently get none of 4857 03:53:04,939 --> 03:53:07,920 and some sort of percentage there so 4858 03:53:07,920 --> 03:53:10,380 that our return on investment is much 4859 03:53:10,380 --> 03:53:12,840 quicker I'm not opposed to two and a 4860 03:53:12,840 --> 03:53:14,939 half but we do need to get some of the 4861 03:53:14,939 --> 03:53:18,600 tax money and that would be 4862 03:53:18,600 --> 03:53:24,849 also otherwise a million dollars 4863 03:53:24,859 --> 03:53:27,779 definitely a proponent of the product 4864 03:53:27,779 --> 03:53:29,460 Center for them to bring to the city 4865 03:53:29,460 --> 03:53:31,439 again 4866 03:53:31,439 --> 03:53:34,920 with revenue from bed packs and of 4867 03:53:34,920 --> 03:53:38,180 course we would have restaurants and uh 4868 03:53:38,180 --> 03:53:40,760 you know bring a lot of people and 4869 03:53:40,760 --> 03:53:43,880 colleges I would hope for 4870 03:53:43,880 --> 03:53:46,979 competitions and again we have a lot to 4871 03:53:46,979 --> 03:53:48,180 offer 4872 03:53:48,180 --> 03:53:53,510 to everyone who visits here 4873 03:53:53,520 --> 03:53:58,490 in favor 4874 03:53:58,500 --> 03:54:03,189 well 4875 03:54:03,199 --> 03:54:05,880 I'm just I'm probably gonna pass right 4876 03:54:05,880 --> 03:54:11,570 now because again 2.5 4877 03:54:11,580 --> 03:54:13,760 I'll take it back 4878 03:54:13,760 --> 03:54:16,880 we're getting down into 4879 03:54:16,880 --> 03:54:21,600 funding again how does this 4880 03:54:21,600 --> 03:54:25,979 uh so Mr Paolini says a million so 4881 03:54:25,979 --> 03:54:34,330 I'll I'll go a million point five 4882 03:54:34,340 --> 03:54:38,760 I'm definitely for yes yes 4883 03:54:38,760 --> 03:54:44,269 um 4884 03:54:44,279 --> 03:54:46,520 I I absolutely 4885 03:54:46,520 --> 03:54:48,359 Aquatic Center 4886 03:54:48,359 --> 03:54:50,460 um I'd like to see us do the two and a 4887 03:54:50,460 --> 03:54:54,120 half uh million I think that it 4888 03:54:54,120 --> 03:54:57,779 the county is putting in on I think that 4889 03:54:57,779 --> 03:54:58,739 it has 4890 03:54:58,739 --> 03:55:01,199 I do think that this 4891 03:55:01,199 --> 03:55:03,420 is I do also think that we should go 4892 03:55:03,420 --> 03:55:04,620 back to the county and try to 4893 03:55:04,620 --> 03:55:08,760 renegotiate the sales tax and tax 4894 03:55:08,760 --> 03:55:10,800 in particular 4895 03:55:10,800 --> 03:55:13,319 because I want to say I think this is 4896 03:55:13,319 --> 03:55:15,239 what we've been building towards these 4897 03:55:15,239 --> 03:55:17,760 kinds of large-scale projects we we have 4898 03:55:17,760 --> 03:55:20,460 how many hotels that we've put up you 4899 03:55:20,460 --> 03:55:21,720 know how many restaurants that have 4900 03:55:21,720 --> 03:55:23,819 opened we have attractions like the van 4901 03:55:23,819 --> 03:55:30,420 Gogh we have you know Proctors et cetera all of these things that I 4902 03:55:30,420 --> 03:55:32,399 have to give a nod to Mr Gillen over 4903 03:55:32,399 --> 03:55:34,380 here all the things that have been going 4904 03:55:34,380 --> 03:55:36,779 on in our community 4905 03:55:36,779 --> 03:55:37,620 um 4906 03:55:37,620 --> 03:55:40,140 bringing in the people that would come 4907 03:55:40,140 --> 03:55:43,859 into our city for tournaments of August 4908 03:55:43,859 --> 03:55:45,420 swim meets 4909 03:55:45,420 --> 03:55:47,420 um I call them tournaments 4910 03:55:47,420 --> 03:55:50,060 I actually don't really know how to swim 4911 03:55:50,060 --> 03:55:53,040 appropriately but the right way but 4912 03:55:53,040 --> 03:55:56,399 um I've watched as so many people leave 4913 03:55:56,399 --> 03:55:58,680 to go to these kinds of swim meets with 4914 03:55:58,680 --> 03:56:02,100 their children in all other places then 4915 03:56:02,100 --> 03:56:03,660 they have to stay overnight in hotels 4916 03:56:03,660 --> 03:56:07,550 and they have to eat out on 4917 03:56:07,560 --> 03:56:08,760 Schenectady 4918 03:56:08,760 --> 03:56:10,979 again put on the map as part of that 4919 03:56:10,979 --> 03:56:12,300 process 4920 03:56:12,300 --> 03:56:14,100 um have them come here we've got the 4921 03:56:14,100 --> 03:56:15,840 capacity now 4922 03:56:15,840 --> 03:56:17,340 what kind of things have you been trying 4923 03:56:17,340 --> 03:56:18,840 to 4924 03:56:18,840 --> 03:56:20,520 increase tourism 4925 03:56:20,520 --> 03:56:23,340 yes yes so I think it does have an 4926 03:56:23,340 --> 03:56:25,140 economic development impact and I think 4927 03:56:25,140 --> 03:56:27,779 it does also enhance tourism 4928 03:56:27,779 --> 03:56:29,580 um in much the same way whether these 4929 03:56:29,580 --> 03:56:31,560 other things are where are we going to 4930 03:56:31,560 --> 03:56:32,750 get the money 4931 03:56:32,750 --> 03:56:34,020 [Music] 4932 03:56:34,020 --> 03:56:36,540 I'll have to ask that question so that's 4933 03:56:36,540 --> 03:56:37,500 why we're going to have to go back to 4934 03:56:37,500 --> 03:56:39,060 the drawing board and look at it but 4935 03:56:39,060 --> 03:56:41,160 we're going to be on this safarily 4936 03:56:41,160 --> 03:56:43,140 because so I would I would like to hear 4937 03:56:43,140 --> 03:56:45,120 from our Planning Development Office 4938 03:56:45,120 --> 03:56:47,779 along this one 4939 03:56:47,779 --> 03:56:49,859 I'm sorry I don't even put you on the 4940 03:56:49,859 --> 03:56:52,560 spot I'm running back and forth all day 4941 03:56:52,560 --> 03:56:54,180 I'm just trying to just a brief 4942 03:56:54,180 --> 03:56:56,580 description of this project yes and if 4943 03:56:56,580 --> 03:56:57,720 you're not prepared to do that that 4944 03:56:57,720 --> 03:56:59,399 that's another time that's we're 4945 03:56:59,399 --> 03:57:01,020 literally I want to acknowledge that 4946 03:57:01,020 --> 03:57:02,640 we've been putting around the spot on 4947 03:57:02,640 --> 03:57:03,660 that you've been doing a wonderful job 4948 03:57:03,660 --> 03:57:05,279 opening yourself through this so I just 4949 03:57:05,279 --> 03:57:19,809 don't understand what you're saying 4950 03:57:19,819 --> 03:57:22,319 from Tuesday to Sunday 4951 03:57:22,319 --> 03:57:24,359 and I spent a lot of money and did not 4952 03:57:24,359 --> 03:57:25,920 really enjoy my time there or not gonna 4953 03:57:25,920 --> 03:57:29,279 lie I didn't go back and come back here 4954 03:57:29,279 --> 03:57:31,080 in a heartbeat there were people there 4955 03:57:31,080 --> 03:57:34,500 from Virginia Maryland New Jersey Long 4956 03:57:34,500 --> 03:57:36,720 Island Allegheny Mountain Maine 4957 03:57:36,720 --> 03:57:39,840 Massachusetts Connecticut all over the 4958 03:57:39,840 --> 03:57:42,660 Eastern Zone probably 2 000 people 4959 03:57:42,660 --> 03:57:46,859 Tuesday to Sunday and I'm Sarah Gregory 4960 03:57:46,859 --> 03:57:49,620 I'm sorry for The Aquatic on the 4961 03:57:49,620 --> 03:57:52,080 calibration Aquatic Center board so 4962 03:57:52,080 --> 03:57:54,420 that's that's a very that's one of the 4963 03:57:54,420 --> 03:57:56,699 low high level meats that I went to 4964 03:57:56,699 --> 03:57:58,920 there were probably 2 000 people there 4965 03:57:58,920 --> 03:58:01,199 as I said from Tuesday to Sunday in 4966 03:58:01,199 --> 03:58:03,300 aquatic events you don't go home when 4967 03:58:03,300 --> 03:58:04,260 you lose 4968 03:58:04,260 --> 03:58:06,779 you have to swim bad or dive bed and 4969 03:58:06,779 --> 03:58:10,020 continue on for the next day 4970 03:58:10,020 --> 03:58:12,359 um but then so the economic impact is 4971 03:58:12,359 --> 03:58:17,460 amazing the people it will bring in the bed taxes the food people have to 4972 03:58:17,460 --> 03:58:19,859 eat three meals a day they're not doing 4973 03:58:19,859 --> 03:58:21,479 it in the hotel room they're growing out 4974 03:58:21,479 --> 03:58:24,479 the moms want to shop the girls want to 4975 03:58:24,479 --> 03:58:26,340 go shopping they have downtown the boys 4976 03:58:26,340 --> 03:58:29,040 want to go play laser tag or go to a 4977 03:58:29,040 --> 03:58:32,279 movie so that economic impact is amazing 4978 03:58:32,279 --> 03:58:34,920 but there's also the community aspect 4979 03:58:34,920 --> 03:58:38,160 and I mean it was again I think there 4980 03:58:38,160 --> 03:58:40,260 were two or three groundings in our area 4981 03:58:40,260 --> 03:58:43,380 this weekend I I'm gonna cry thinking 4982 03:58:43,380 --> 03:58:46,439 about it and the way it's designed is we 4983 03:58:46,439 --> 03:58:50,460 have the the tools for the competition 4984 03:58:50,460 --> 03:58:52,260 and the training for competition and we 4985 03:58:52,260 --> 03:58:54,600 have a community pool and it's designed 4986 03:58:54,600 --> 03:58:57,060 that way so that whenever there's a 4987 03:58:57,060 --> 03:58:59,399 competition the community pool is still 4988 03:58:59,399 --> 03:59:01,500 open and the learn to swim is still 4989 03:59:01,500 --> 03:59:03,899 going on the adult Fitness the adult 4990 03:59:03,899 --> 03:59:07,500 learn to swim part of our mission is to 4991 03:59:07,500 --> 03:59:10,319 teach every first Schenectady City 4992 03:59:10,319 --> 03:59:12,899 second grader to swim and then expand it 4993 03:59:12,899 --> 03:59:15,479 out to Schenectady County and then there 4994 03:59:15,479 --> 03:59:17,399 are programs in the country that we're 4995 03:59:17,399 --> 03:59:19,800 modeling after that thing and then 4996 03:59:19,800 --> 03:59:21,420 they've even expanded them further we 4997 03:59:21,420 --> 03:59:23,100 can do the whole capital region where it 4998 03:59:23,100 --> 03:59:25,979 came to because one month of formal 4999 03:59:25,979 --> 03:59:28,319 school lessons decreases your chance to 5000 03:59:28,319 --> 03:59:30,300 drown by 80 percent 5001 03:59:30,300 --> 03:59:32,640 that's it's the community aspect the 5002 03:59:32,640 --> 03:59:35,580 health and wellness that really 5003 03:59:35,580 --> 03:59:38,220 gets gives to my heart about it the 5004 03:59:38,220 --> 03:59:40,260 economic impact is just this wonderful 5005 03:59:40,260 --> 03:59:43,680 benefit where the area just is amazing 5006 03:59:43,680 --> 03:59:46,080 we're modeled after Greensboro Aquatic 5007 03:59:46,080 --> 03:59:48,840 Center and since they opened 11 years 5008 03:59:48,840 --> 03:59:52,380 ago five hotels have opened in that area 5009 03:59:52,380 --> 03:59:54,300 and that's since the Aquatic Center not 5010 03:59:54,300 --> 03:59:55,380 any other 5011 03:59:55,380 --> 03:59:57,359 news every all the other athletic 5012 03:59:57,359 --> 04:00:00,359 activities already existed their first 5013 04:00:00,359 --> 04:00:04,080 year they brought 120 000 visitors to 5014 04:00:04,080 --> 04:00:07,500 the area with 40 million dollars of new 5015 04:00:07,500 --> 04:00:11,040 generated economic impact into I don't 5016 04:00:11,040 --> 04:00:12,899 understand the tax thing so I can't 5017 04:00:12,899 --> 04:00:17,040 speak to that but I do know that it will 5018 04:00:17,040 --> 04:00:19,800 help almost every business in the area 5019 04:00:19,800 --> 04:00:22,500 I've been driving down to Union College 5020 04:00:22,500 --> 04:00:25,020 because from I would actually live in 5021 04:00:25,020 --> 04:00:26,939 Saratoga but my son likes to come down 5022 04:00:26,939 --> 04:00:29,220 here to practice swimming 5023 04:00:29,220 --> 04:00:31,739 six days a week and I do my grocery 5024 04:00:31,739 --> 04:00:34,500 shopping here I go to the Starbucks here 5025 04:00:34,500 --> 04:00:37,439 I go you know I do my shopping here now 5026 04:00:37,439 --> 04:00:40,020 versus up there so there's also that 5027 04:00:40,020 --> 04:00:42,300 everyday practice thing where people are 5028 04:00:42,300 --> 04:00:44,279 going to be in the area 5029 04:00:44,279 --> 04:00:46,620 and they're gonna spend their money here 5030 04:00:46,620 --> 04:00:49,140 versus at home because I've got two plus 5031 04:00:49,140 --> 04:00:52,080 hours to sit in my car so instead it's 5032 04:00:52,080 --> 04:00:54,000 in my car I go to the grocery store I go 5033 04:00:54,000 --> 04:00:57,300 have dinner with someone so and then 5034 04:00:57,300 --> 04:00:59,460 again the community health and wellness 5035 04:00:59,460 --> 04:01:02,939 is it's an amazing thing that we can do 5036 04:01:02,939 --> 04:01:05,520 to you you guys thank you that's the 5037 04:01:05,520 --> 04:01:07,979 information part that's the car running 5038 04:01:07,979 --> 04:01:12,720 back to okay so um I would say yes he 5039 04:01:12,720 --> 04:01:15,359 has to support the requirement Center 5040 04:01:15,359 --> 04:01:17,460 um and my expectation would be that 5041 04:01:17,460 --> 04:01:20,640 there is a conversation around 5042 04:01:20,640 --> 04:01:22,500 um 5043 04:01:22,500 --> 04:01:24,540 attacks from that the city will receive 5044 04:01:24,540 --> 04:01:27,239 as well so yes well that's the one 5045 04:01:27,239 --> 04:01:30,889 that's going to work for me 5046 04:01:30,899 --> 04:01:33,600 Mr Williams I would agree as a 5047 04:01:33,600 --> 04:01:35,819 played by the municipality 5048 04:01:35,819 --> 04:01:37,920 oh with the conversational effects of 5049 04:01:37,920 --> 04:01:44,399 the county yes what's your number uh 2.5 Miss Quarterfield I'm gonna agree 5050 04:01:44,399 --> 04:01:46,979 with the 2.5 also with um what has been 5051 04:01:46,979 --> 04:01:49,020 discussed so far in terms of increasing 5052 04:01:49,020 --> 04:01:54,070 the city's Revenue yeah 5053 04:01:54,080 --> 04:01:57,060 having this University will continue to 5054 04:01:57,060 --> 04:01:59,160 add to our economic impact that we're 5055 04:01:59,160 --> 04:02:01,199 seeing across the city and thanks to Mr 5056 04:02:01,199 --> 04:02:04,260 Killa thanks thanks to am the 5057 04:02:04,260 --> 04:02:06,300 administration to continue this was just 5058 04:02:06,300 --> 04:02:07,800 compliment more than what we're doing in 5059 04:02:07,800 --> 04:02:10,020 the city here so I have to support this 5060 04:02:10,020 --> 04:02:12,420 2.5 million dollars with a contingency 5061 04:02:12,420 --> 04:02:16,080 that they come to us back with uh to 5062 04:02:16,080 --> 04:02:18,180 show us where additional funding the 5063 04:02:18,180 --> 04:02:19,979 source of funding the actual funding 5064 04:02:19,979 --> 04:02:21,600 where it's coming from in terms of that 5065 04:02:21,600 --> 04:02:25,260 and something we're gonna actually uh 5066 04:02:25,260 --> 04:02:27,239 something at the ladder similar to what 5067 04:02:27,239 --> 04:02:29,340 it comes to you guys sent to the Aquatic 5068 04:02:29,340 --> 04:02:31,319 Center so we'll try to drive that and 5069 04:02:31,319 --> 04:02:33,840 get it to Mr clothing 5070 04:02:33,840 --> 04:02:36,479 and I'm in full support of 2.5 million 5071 04:02:36,479 --> 04:02:39,420 dollars we want about the tax and also 5072 04:02:39,420 --> 04:02:51,189 makes important things 5073 04:02:51,199 --> 04:02:54,420 additional work to start that uh 5074 04:02:54,420 --> 04:02:56,580 negotiation with us in economies so 5075 04:02:56,580 --> 04:02:58,979 we'll start for that entertainment 5076 04:02:58,979 --> 04:03:09,370 foreign 5077 04:03:09,380 --> 04:03:12,779 agency to seek additional funding to 5078 04:03:12,779 --> 04:03:16,020 come towards the contract value 5079 04:03:16,020 --> 04:03:19,080 to propose a contract value to see where 5080 04:03:19,080 --> 04:03:21,120 they are in terms of getting additional 5081 04:03:21,120 --> 04:03:23,040 funding from the state other agencies 5082 04:03:23,040 --> 04:03:25,620 and I think they're doing a good job in 5083 04:03:25,620 --> 04:03:27,479 terms of getting funding they're it's 5084 04:03:27,479 --> 04:03:30,359 not mistaken close to 11 or 12 million 5085 04:03:30,359 --> 04:03:32,939 dollars already so that is that is a 5086 04:03:32,939 --> 04:03:35,520 positive direction they are moving and 5087 04:03:35,520 --> 04:03:37,319 without fear of 5088 04:03:37,319 --> 04:03:40,020 2.5 million dollar will just add to the 5089 04:03:40,020 --> 04:03:42,899 success story it's Aquatic Center just 5090 04:03:42,899 --> 04:03:44,160 want to make sure that it's clear on 5091 04:03:44,160 --> 04:03:46,580 what that is thank you yes 5092 04:03:46,580 --> 04:03:50,580 so we are in agreement to move to 5093 04:03:50,580 --> 04:03:53,340 2.5 million dollars majority on the 5094 04:03:53,340 --> 04:03:55,140 council one two three four five of us 5095 04:03:55,140 --> 04:03:57,120 2.5 million dollars 5096 04:03:57,120 --> 04:03:59,580 to be allocated to the Aquatic Center 5097 04:03:59,580 --> 04:04:03,830 based on 5098 04:04:03,840 --> 04:04:06,359 negotiation in terms of engaging the 5099 04:04:06,359 --> 04:04:08,660 county in terms of sales tax 5100 04:04:08,660 --> 04:04:12,010 bad times 5101 04:04:12,020 --> 04:04:18,070 pardon me both actions 5102 04:04:18,080 --> 04:04:21,479 of that so we have to get something back 5103 04:04:21,479 --> 04:04:24,540 yes absolutely and when so do we want to 5104 04:04:24,540 --> 04:04:25,979 put in the mountain there if they come 5105 04:04:25,979 --> 04:04:29,760 back to us and say nothing is everyone 5106 04:04:29,760 --> 04:04:31,920 still in for 2.5 if we're not going to 5107 04:04:31,920 --> 04:04:34,380 get anything addition 5108 04:04:34,380 --> 04:04:34,939 um 5109 04:04:34,939 --> 04:04:37,500 McCarthy that's something you will have 5110 04:04:37,500 --> 04:04:39,060 to particularly learn in terms of 5111 04:04:39,060 --> 04:04:41,840 English so 5112 04:04:41,840 --> 04:04:52,729 you still like me 5113 04:04:52,739 --> 04:04:55,080 now we can't ask you to take the lead on 5114 04:04:55,080 --> 04:04:56,699 a little bit more I look forward to 5115 04:04:56,699 --> 04:04:58,199 having the discussions with the county 5116 04:04:58,199 --> 04:05:01,399 thank you would you like some assistance 5117 04:05:01,399 --> 04:05:03,779 we're here to help 5118 04:05:03,779 --> 04:05:10,870 all right I think we're playing 5119 04:05:10,880 --> 04:05:12,540 successes 5120 04:05:12,540 --> 04:05:15,720 no Mr Turtle 1.5 million 5121 04:05:15,720 --> 04:05:19,199 um it's the parliament 1 million uh 5122 04:05:19,199 --> 04:05:24,010 yeah 5123 04:05:24,020 --> 04:05:27,239 if we don't then I'm opposed president 5124 04:05:27,239 --> 04:05:29,819 so yeah but that's why I kind of put you 5125 04:05:29,819 --> 04:05:33,300 down as a million 1.5 million so I think 5126 04:05:33,300 --> 04:05:37,140 we lost 2.5 yes so majority is moving 5127 04:05:37,140 --> 04:05:40,020 towards 2.5 million so we'll stick with 5128 04:05:40,020 --> 04:05:42,899 a 2.5 millimeter of the Aquatic Center 5129 04:05:42,899 --> 04:05:45,300 with the contingency on these things and 5130 04:05:45,300 --> 04:05:46,439 that was discussed here at the table 5131 04:05:46,439 --> 04:05:48,180 just like the contingency and see on the 5132 04:05:48,180 --> 04:05:49,580 project yes 5133 04:05:49,580 --> 04:05:52,560 I mean all right if it's a company 5134 04:05:52,560 --> 04:05:54,600 contingency time I have to say we're 5135 04:05:54,600 --> 04:05:57,239 hurting our negotiation status saying 5136 04:05:57,239 --> 04:05:58,319 we're going to give two and a half 5137 04:05:58,319 --> 04:06:00,739 million dollars 5138 04:06:00,739 --> 04:06:03,960 we have to negotiate first then get then 5139 04:06:03,960 --> 04:06:05,960 get into it 5140 04:06:05,960 --> 04:06:09,899 is that if the negotiation started us 5141 04:06:09,899 --> 04:06:11,279 can't get our way in terms of the 5142 04:06:11,279 --> 04:06:13,260 company has given us 5143 04:06:13,260 --> 04:06:16,699 additional money in terms of sales tax 5144 04:06:16,699 --> 04:06:20,120 what are we going to do 5145 04:06:20,120 --> 04:06:24,180 so I need an answer from this Council 5146 04:06:24,180 --> 04:06:27,000 really stick regardless well what I 5147 04:06:27,000 --> 04:06:29,279 would advise you to do is not negotiate 5148 04:06:29,279 --> 04:06:35,530 in public 5149 04:06:35,540 --> 04:06:38,819 I promise thank you 5150 04:06:38,819 --> 04:06:41,699 um you can always obviously allocate 2.5 5151 04:06:41,699 --> 04:06:43,439 million dollars to Capital Region 5152 04:06:43,439 --> 04:06:45,180 Aquatic Center without authorizing the 5153 04:06:45,180 --> 04:06:47,160 mayor to enter into a 2.5 million 5154 04:06:47,160 --> 04:06:49,319 without authorizing the mayor tattoo 5155 04:06:49,319 --> 04:06:50,939 into a contract right now with 5156 04:06:50,939 --> 04:06:52,880 contingencies and you have the money 5157 04:06:52,880 --> 04:06:55,859 tagged for the 2.5 but you don't have to 5158 04:06:55,859 --> 04:06:58,199 enter into a contract until you know 5159 04:06:58,199 --> 04:07:00,180 those other items 5160 04:07:00,180 --> 04:07:04,160 uh are accomplished thank you thank you 5161 04:07:04,160 --> 04:07:06,859 yes perfect 5162 04:07:06,859 --> 04:07:11,220 all right I think we did I think we did 5163 04:07:11,220 --> 04:07:13,260 a lot this evening uh you were respect 5164 04:07:13,260 --> 04:07:16,739 it past that we you know regroup about 5165 04:07:16,739 --> 04:07:20,040 winning so okay we need to so can we 5166 04:07:20,040 --> 04:07:22,260 work around your schedule well no I want 5167 04:07:22,260 --> 04:07:23,880 to yeah because to make sure that we're 5168 04:07:23,880 --> 04:07:25,160 going to be able to do the Central Park 5169 04:07:25,160 --> 04:07:28,319 yes yes absolutely so those are going to 5170 04:07:28,319 --> 04:07:30,690 come to us on Monday nights 5171 04:07:30,690 --> 04:07:34,490 [Music] 5172 04:07:34,500 --> 04:07:35,760 okay 5173 04:07:35,760 --> 04:07:38,699 has a summary of every item it will be 5174 04:07:38,699 --> 04:07:40,199 one resolution with all the list of 5175 04:07:40,199 --> 04:07:42,600 items that was passed on to by majority 5176 04:07:42,600 --> 04:07:44,699 of us even if it totals 60 million 5177 04:07:44,699 --> 04:07:48,530 instead 5178 04:07:48,540 --> 04:07:50,659 so I'm a little bit 5179 04:07:50,659 --> 04:07:53,399 so if I even asked Mr Collinger to 5180 04:07:53,399 --> 04:07:54,899 summarize what is going to be on the 5181 04:07:54,899 --> 04:07:56,760 resolution it's kind of forward next 5182 04:07:56,760 --> 04:07:58,140 month 5183 04:07:58,140 --> 04:07:59,939 in terms of allocations the total 5184 04:07:59,939 --> 04:08:03,920 allocation is 14 691 5185 04:08:03,920 --> 04:08:07,439 455.84 cents broken down as follows and 5186 04:08:07,439 --> 04:08:09,840 also please correct me if besides 5187 04:08:09,840 --> 04:08:11,760 allocating you're also authorizing a 5188 04:08:11,760 --> 04:08:13,380 contract then the mayor then enter into 5189 04:08:13,380 --> 04:08:16,979 a contract for those funds for example 5190 04:08:16,979 --> 04:08:20,460 the Green Market yes okay so just let me 5191 04:08:20,460 --> 04:08:23,340 know where that is okay 4.5 million 5192 04:08:23,340 --> 04:08:24,359 dollars for the pool construction 5193 04:08:24,359 --> 04:08:27,420 project 3.5 million dollars for the golf 5194 04:08:27,420 --> 04:08:30,020 course irrigation improvements 5195 04:08:30,020 --> 04:08:32,779 875 500 5196 04:08:32,779 --> 04:08:35,760 uh to the city and two hundred thousand 5197 04:08:35,760 --> 04:08:38,760 dollars to do a Community Foundation for 5198 04:08:38,760 --> 04:08:40,920 the Empowerment Center and the 5199 04:08:40,920 --> 04:08:42,600 foundation project 5200 04:08:42,600 --> 04:08:44,159 fifty thousand dollars to the Green 5201 04:08:44,159 --> 04:08:46,020 Market 5202 04:08:46,020 --> 04:08:48,000 um nine hundred and fifty thousand 5203 04:08:48,000 --> 04:08:50,819 dollars for the health and Equitable 5204 04:08:50,819 --> 04:08:52,859 food project minus the funding to the 5205 04:08:52,859 --> 04:08:54,620 Green Market 5206 04:08:54,620 --> 04:08:57,239 1.25 million dollars to Miracle on Craig 5207 04:08:57,239 --> 04:09:00,479 Street for uh the project of the Carver 5208 04:09:00,479 --> 04:09:03,020 Community Center Rehabilitation 5209 04:09:03,020 --> 04:09:07,279 172 073 to Safe House 5210 04:09:07,279 --> 04:09:09,500 343 5211 04:09:09,500 --> 04:09:12,120 882.84 cents to the seat Center 5212 04:09:12,120 --> 04:09:13,920 three hundred and fifty thousand dollars 5213 04:09:13,920 --> 04:09:15,540 to Schenectady little league and the 5214 04:09:15,540 --> 04:09:16,680 Blue Jays 5215 04:09:16,680 --> 04:09:19,140 and 2.5 million dollars to the capital 5216 04:09:19,140 --> 04:09:21,659 region Aquatic Center as an allocation 5217 04:09:21,659 --> 04:09:25,620 in terms of authorizing contracts I 5218 04:09:25,620 --> 04:09:27,120 would be authorizing the mayor to enter 5219 04:09:27,120 --> 04:09:30,000 or his designee into uh enter into a 5220 04:09:30,000 --> 04:09:32,460 contract with Gary Community Foundation 5221 04:09:32,460 --> 04:09:34,040 for two hundred thousand dollars 5222 04:09:34,040 --> 04:09:36,479 authorizing the mayor country to into a 5223 04:09:36,479 --> 04:09:38,580 contract with the Green Market 5224 04:09:38,580 --> 04:09:40,739 authorizing the mayor to enter into an 5225 04:09:40,739 --> 04:09:44,210 agreement with Safe House 5226 04:09:44,220 --> 04:09:46,260 with the seat center with Schenectady 5227 04:09:46,260 --> 04:09:49,080 little league and the Blue Jays my 5228 04:09:49,080 --> 04:09:50,819 recommendation as it relates to Miracle 5229 04:09:50,819 --> 04:09:52,979 on Craig Street and the capital region 5230 04:09:52,979 --> 04:09:55,260 aquatic centers because there are 5231 04:09:55,260 --> 04:09:57,420 contingencies involved in those just 5232 04:09:57,420 --> 04:10:01,979 allocate the funds until the the 5233 04:10:01,979 --> 04:10:05,159 contingencies are met then authorize the 5234 04:10:05,159 --> 04:10:07,140 contracts at a later point in time once 5235 04:10:07,140 --> 04:10:09,899 those contingencies have been met uh 5236 04:10:09,899 --> 04:10:11,819 unless I'm missing something here and 5237 04:10:11,819 --> 04:10:22,130 obviously that's up to the council 5238 04:10:22,140 --> 04:10:23,659 next time 5239 04:10:23,659 --> 04:10:27,420 next one yes so I will request that we 5240 04:10:27,420 --> 04:10:30,060 have all that in one resolution am I 5241 04:10:30,060 --> 04:10:31,279 missing in my mind 5242 04:10:31,279 --> 04:10:33,979 the total I have is 14 5243 04:10:33,979 --> 04:10:36,439 691 5244 04:10:36,439 --> 04:10:39,080 455.84 cents 5245 04:10:39,080 --> 04:10:42,600 for the the only question I have and 5246 04:10:42,600 --> 04:10:44,699 again this is up to the council or the 5247 04:10:44,699 --> 04:10:46,500 committee rather the Miracle on Craig 5248 04:10:46,500 --> 04:10:47,580 Street 5249 04:10:47,580 --> 04:10:49,140 um there were contingencies that were 5250 04:10:49,140 --> 04:10:51,000 discussed about other funding sources 5251 04:10:51,000 --> 04:10:52,199 coming through 5252 04:10:52,199 --> 04:10:54,600 whether or not it's an allocation only 5253 04:10:54,600 --> 04:10:56,040 the council is only going to allocate 5254 04:10:56,040 --> 04:10:58,380 the funds or if they're going to also 5255 04:10:58,380 --> 04:11:00,000 authorize the contract with the 5256 04:11:00,000 --> 04:11:02,580 contingencies in there as I said my 5257 04:11:02,580 --> 04:11:04,680 recommendation again that's just it's 5258 04:11:04,680 --> 04:11:06,659 just my recommendation is that you just 5259 04:11:06,659 --> 04:11:08,760 allocate the funds tag the funds right 5260 04:11:08,760 --> 04:11:11,220 now until the contingencies are met and 5261 04:11:11,220 --> 04:11:12,020 then 5262 04:11:12,020 --> 04:11:15,000 we can come back it can be brought back 5263 04:11:15,000 --> 04:11:16,560 and you know somebody can present from 5264 04:11:16,560 --> 04:11:17,819 the development department the 5265 04:11:17,819 --> 04:11:20,040 contingencies have been met and then 5266 04:11:20,040 --> 04:11:22,260 authorize a contract 5267 04:11:22,260 --> 04:11:24,180 same thing with the part of the center 5268 04:11:24,180 --> 04:11:26,880 because there are contingencies 5269 04:11:26,880 --> 04:11:28,920 any question that I have no issue with 5270 04:11:28,920 --> 04:11:30,800 regards to those uh 5271 04:11:30,800 --> 04:11:34,620 forbid on the same resolution so it 5272 04:11:34,620 --> 04:11:36,720 would be I mean a separate resolve yes 5273 04:11:36,720 --> 04:11:38,399 perfect 5274 04:11:38,399 --> 04:11:41,100 any other question on that 5275 04:11:41,100 --> 04:11:42,840 computer again 5276 04:11:42,840 --> 04:11:45,960 350 000 to Schenectady little league and 5277 04:11:45,960 --> 04:11:47,399 the Blue Jays 5278 04:11:47,399 --> 04:11:48,120 um 5279 04:11:48,120 --> 04:11:50,220 because I haven't seen the applicant I 5280 04:11:50,220 --> 04:11:50,880 don't know if I've seen their 5281 04:11:50,880 --> 04:11:52,439 application 5282 04:11:52,439 --> 04:11:53,880 um whatever it is it's going to be the 5283 04:11:53,880 --> 04:11:55,739 formal legal name obviously if we're 5284 04:11:55,739 --> 04:11:57,359 going to authorize that contract okay 5285 04:11:57,359 --> 04:12:01,920 same thing with everybody else they're so I'd have to go and take a 5286 04:12:01,920 --> 04:12:03,180 look and I'll talk to the development 5287 04:12:03,180 --> 04:12:04,979 department make sure we have their legal 5288 04:12:04,979 --> 04:12:13,269 name 5289 04:12:13,279 --> 04:12:16,560 you know Finance afterwards but 14 5290 04:12:16,560 --> 04:12:19,319 million six hundred ninety one thousand 5291 04:12:19,319 --> 04:12:21,779 four hundred fifty five dollars and 84 5292 04:12:21,779 --> 04:12:31,790 cents 5293 04:12:31,800 --> 04:12:35,649 what was discussed here 5294 04:12:35,659 --> 04:12:38,939 right all in favor all right thank you 5295 04:12:38,939 --> 04:12:39,960 very much 5296 04:12:39,960 --> 04:12:42,720 uh that's before we close um we need to 5297 04:12:42,720 --> 04:12:44,279 regroup and continue the discussion here 5298 04:12:44,279 --> 04:12:48,060 I know Miss Patrick is out next week I'm 5299 04:12:48,060 --> 04:12:51,000 here uh next week next week which is 5300 04:12:51,000 --> 04:12:54,120 Council that's our council meeting 5301 04:12:54,120 --> 04:12:57,180 of the next week is the next week the oh 5302 04:12:57,180 --> 04:12:59,880 the next week is our fifth Monday 5303 04:12:59,880 --> 04:13:02,520 so we don't have councils and so is 5304 04:13:02,520 --> 04:13:04,260 September 6th and I'm not going to be 5305 04:13:04,260 --> 04:13:06,000 here 5306 04:13:06,000 --> 04:13:07,439 today 5307 04:13:07,439 --> 04:13:09,300 our next community meeting is September 5308 04:13:09,300 --> 04:13:12,479 6th so you're not available next week of 5309 04:13:12,479 --> 04:13:16,140 the 26th 22nd the entire week I'm 5310 04:13:16,140 --> 04:13:17,460 York City 5311 04:13:17,460 --> 04:13:19,910 and then 5312 04:13:19,910 --> 04:13:21,300 [Music] 5313 04:13:21,300 --> 04:13:22,979 and then you're out until the next 5314 04:13:22,979 --> 04:13:24,779 committee meeting 5315 04:13:24,779 --> 04:13:27,180 she's out at the next Community for the 5316 04:13:27,180 --> 04:13:29,819 next committee meeting I'm 5317 04:13:29,819 --> 04:13:32,460 that's you know I can let you guys know 5318 04:13:32,460 --> 04:13:34,199 go ahead please 5319 04:13:34,199 --> 04:13:35,760 um so I know I mean we have a lot of 5320 04:13:35,760 --> 04:13:37,140 work to do so is anybody open until 5321 04:13:37,140 --> 04:13:38,279 meeting in the week that we're normally 5322 04:13:38,279 --> 04:13:39,779 off and just following a special meeting 5323 04:13:39,779 --> 04:13:42,659 so we can handle this out 5324 04:13:42,659 --> 04:13:46,969 you're gonna be out of town yeah 5325 04:13:46,979 --> 04:13:49,800 so you know what then let's meet on the 5326 04:13:49,800 --> 04:13:52,910 September 5327 04:13:52,920 --> 04:13:56,649 our next coming to a new thing 5328 04:13:56,659 --> 04:14:00,000 yeah go ahead please and can I suggest 5329 04:14:00,000 --> 04:14:03,000 that that folks can like send to you or 5330 04:14:03,000 --> 04:14:04,800 just be prepared at that meeting to what 5331 04:14:04,800 --> 04:14:06,180 they would like to bring forward so you 5332 04:14:06,180 --> 04:14:07,680 kind of know when we're dealing with him 5333 04:14:07,680 --> 04:14:09,180 prior to that 5334 04:14:09,180 --> 04:14:10,800 um can we know what how much money is 5335 04:14:10,800 --> 04:14:18,469 left yes 5336 04:14:18,479 --> 04:14:21,899 absolutely like in a Central Park and 5337 04:14:21,899 --> 04:14:25,439 put in what a good faith estimates and 5338 04:14:25,439 --> 04:14:26,819 we're still doing some of the final 5339 04:14:26,819 --> 04:14:28,920 deciding or which could ship those 5340 04:14:28,920 --> 04:14:32,699 numbers either up or down and those are 5341 04:14:32,699 --> 04:14:33,400 yeah 5342 04:14:33,400 --> 04:14:35,340 [Music] 5343 04:14:35,340 --> 04:14:38,040 sometimes a staff and contractors don't 5344 04:14:38,040 --> 04:14:41,030 agree with us 5345 04:14:41,040 --> 04:14:42,720 you know we've all made the commitment 5346 04:14:42,720 --> 04:14:47,100 for the pool using caveman a diner 5347 04:14:47,100 --> 04:14:49,859 tennis courts things I wanted to come 5348 04:14:49,859 --> 04:14:52,560 out so that it reflects well on 5349 04:14:52,560 --> 04:14:53,699 everybody and it's going to position 5350 04:14:53,699 --> 04:14:55,739 that part really for the next half 5351 04:14:55,739 --> 04:14:57,500 century 5352 04:14:57,500 --> 04:15:00,659 so and I want to come up where it's a 5353 04:15:00,659 --> 04:15:02,580 little bit short 5354 04:15:02,580 --> 04:15:04,680 a little bit to do the lighting the 5355 04:15:04,680 --> 04:15:07,439 sidewalking or Paving so again that it's 5356 04:15:07,439 --> 04:15:08,479 a 5357 04:15:08,479 --> 04:15:10,760 first class 5358 04:15:10,760 --> 04:15:13,220 investment in 5359 04:15:13,220 --> 04:15:15,540 all the facilities reflect that 5360 04:15:15,540 --> 04:15:17,659 greatness we all want 5361 04:15:17,659 --> 04:15:21,600 absolutely and just to that I agree with 5362 04:15:21,600 --> 04:15:24,120 you I think that um we need these 5363 04:15:24,120 --> 04:15:25,859 upgrades and I just love to see a plan 5364 04:15:25,859 --> 04:15:28,140 because I can I don't play golf but I do 5365 04:15:28,140 --> 04:15:31,319 play tennis so um I have a personal 5366 04:15:31,319 --> 04:15:34,800 interest in making sure Mr daily with 5367 04:15:34,800 --> 04:15:36,540 the council presidents numb to the golf 5368 04:15:36,540 --> 04:15:39,199 course um 5369 04:15:39,199 --> 04:15:42,420 that the courts are resurfaced and that 5370 04:15:42,420 --> 04:15:45,120 we you know have someone in in the 5371 04:15:45,120 --> 04:15:46,859 position to kind of oversee all that as 5372 04:15:46,859 --> 04:15:48,479 well as and I know that's a separate 5373 04:15:48,479 --> 04:15:50,699 thing and that's a Personnel issue but I 5374 04:15:50,699 --> 04:15:52,439 think that's important as we look at the 5375 04:15:52,439 --> 04:15:55,620 big picture of how we maintain this 5376 04:15:55,620 --> 04:15:56,760 major investment that we're going to 5377 04:15:56,760 --> 04:15:58,920 make so fully supportive of that we'd 5378 04:15:58,920 --> 04:16:00,420 love to see a plan and what that looks 5379 04:16:00,420 --> 04:16:01,500 like 5380 04:16:01,500 --> 04:16:07,610 Arizona 5381 04:16:07,620 --> 04:16:10,020 all right I'd like to call to order City 5382 04:16:10,020 --> 04:16:11,760 development and planning 5383 04:16:11,760 --> 04:16:14,760 I have the first on my agenda is to uh 5384 04:16:14,760 --> 04:16:16,380 public hearings to support Metroplex 5385 04:16:16,380 --> 04:16:18,359 application for ReStore New York grants 5386 04:16:18,359 --> 04:16:21,000 and a Mr a very awesome president did 5387 04:16:21,000 --> 04:16:22,800 such a good job writing the medals for 5388 04:16:22,800 --> 04:16:26,100 me I've spent a lot of time there's 250 5389 04:16:26,100 --> 04:16:27,720 million dollars in the state budget for 5390 04:16:27,720 --> 04:16:29,460 restoring work it's going to be 5391 04:16:29,460 --> 04:16:31,920 allocated in two groups of the first 5392 04:16:31,920 --> 04:16:33,899 round of funding is 100 million second 5393 04:16:33,899 --> 04:16:37,260 round's 150 million skanky can apply for 5394 04:16:37,260 --> 04:16:39,720 up to three million dollars so we're 5395 04:16:39,720 --> 04:16:41,580 asking for your support tonight to call 5396 04:16:41,580 --> 04:16:43,560 for public hearing I'll be on your 5397 04:16:43,560 --> 04:16:45,300 agenda next week public hearing will be 5398 04:16:45,300 --> 04:16:46,739 hello 5399 04:16:46,739 --> 04:16:48,300 there'll be a legal notice in The 5400 04:16:48,300 --> 04:16:50,520 Gazette then we come back after the 5401 04:16:50,520 --> 04:16:52,979 public hearing the next two cycles ask 5402 04:16:52,979 --> 04:16:54,659 for a resolution in support of the 5403 04:16:54,659 --> 04:16:56,939 application that has to be submitted in 5404 04:16:56,939 --> 04:16:59,040 early October or do very closely with 5405 04:16:59,040 --> 04:17:02,460 the city to get the application ready uh 5406 04:17:02,460 --> 04:17:05,819 we've won numerous rounds of previously 5407 04:17:05,819 --> 04:17:07,800 for ReStore New York it's a great 5408 04:17:07,800 --> 04:17:10,020 program so we just asked for your score 5409 04:17:10,020 --> 04:17:14,090 tonight to call for that public hearing 5410 04:17:14,100 --> 04:17:17,750 any questions 5411 04:17:17,760 --> 04:17:20,110 um 5412 04:17:20,120 --> 04:17:22,859 thank you very much Mr Jester thank you 5413 04:17:22,859 --> 04:17:24,840 for being so patience 5414 04:17:24,840 --> 04:17:28,620 yeah all right um the next item on the 5415 04:17:28,620 --> 04:17:31,500 agenda is to authorized issuance of a 5416 04:17:31,500 --> 04:17:33,420 revocable commit number 673 to John 5417 04:17:33,420 --> 04:17:35,580 Riley for sign an awning that will 5418 04:17:35,580 --> 04:17:37,800 overhang the stage right away 5419 04:17:37,800 --> 04:17:39,260 at 5420 04:17:39,260 --> 04:17:43,080 2235-237 Union Street and Mr Wrong I did 5421 04:17:43,080 --> 04:17:45,739 not see him though I think 5422 04:17:45,739 --> 04:17:49,439 the council's explanatory it's a kind of 5423 04:17:49,439 --> 04:17:51,239 a normal process of what is the council 5424 04:17:51,239 --> 04:17:53,520 is favorable consideration for that 5425 04:17:53,520 --> 04:17:55,620 looks like a beautiful sign the 5426 04:17:55,620 --> 04:17:58,399 information oh I'm sorry 5427 04:17:58,399 --> 04:18:02,479 I was anticipating your next words okay 5428 04:18:02,479 --> 04:18:05,100 the information is in the packet are 5429 04:18:05,100 --> 04:18:12,290 there any questions okay 5430 04:18:12,300 --> 04:18:13,800 um the third item on the agenda is 5431 04:18:13,800 --> 04:18:15,600 discussion of Hilton town hall meeting 5432 04:18:15,600 --> 04:18:19,080 September 2022 Mr Williams 5433 04:18:19,080 --> 04:18:21,899 so quickly the days while I'm selecting 5434 04:18:21,899 --> 04:18:25,199 the responses that I received 5435 04:18:25,199 --> 04:18:28,140 from the 23rd so it's a Friday as soon 5436 04:18:28,140 --> 04:18:31,020 as we can pass that I will work to 5437 04:18:31,020 --> 04:18:32,819 schedule to have uh 5438 04:18:32,819 --> 04:18:35,939 last name do a review and we'll be 5439 04:18:35,939 --> 04:18:38,040 hosted at DC Boys and Girls Club our 5440 04:18:38,040 --> 04:18:40,920 machine is very excited to have it this 5441 04:18:40,920 --> 04:18:43,020 person there 5442 04:18:43,020 --> 04:18:47,460 so I think having a safe visit by our 5443 04:18:47,460 --> 04:18:49,979 Zeb just confirm that we are good to go 5444 04:18:49,979 --> 04:18:52,380 uh we'll give any reinsurance I'll 5445 04:18:52,380 --> 04:18:54,600 ensure that the equipment appropriate is 5446 04:18:54,600 --> 04:18:56,939 there and 5447 04:18:56,939 --> 04:19:00,180 then discussion uh Mr Pullman referenced 5448 04:19:00,180 --> 04:19:02,279 that doing on formal press releases and 5449 04:19:02,279 --> 04:19:06,000 uh necessary so as I get that verbiage 5450 04:19:06,000 --> 04:19:08,340 written up out for council members and 5451 04:19:08,340 --> 04:19:10,080 that would be some time to help Mr 5452 04:19:10,080 --> 04:19:12,840 Golden one we don't have to do an 5453 04:19:12,840 --> 04:19:14,880 announcement of a meeting like we would 5454 04:19:14,880 --> 04:19:17,760 do for other things I mean we can still 5455 04:19:17,760 --> 04:19:19,739 certainly put out a press release and 5456 04:19:19,739 --> 04:19:21,779 put out an announcement but there's no 5457 04:19:21,779 --> 04:19:26,210 legal requirement to do anything 5458 04:19:26,220 --> 04:19:28,380 um and there was one final consideration 5459 04:19:28,380 --> 04:19:30,600 on how many recommended keeping the 5460 04:19:30,600 --> 04:19:33,600 meeting at 7 pm just to stay in kind 5461 04:19:33,600 --> 04:19:37,319 with our Council meetings No 5 30. 5462 04:19:37,319 --> 04:19:39,739 actually that's right 5463 04:19:39,739 --> 04:19:49,790 and I misread that um 5464 04:19:49,800 --> 04:19:54,969 I think 5465 04:19:54,979 --> 04:19:57,779 I thought would be enough time and I 5466 04:19:57,779 --> 04:19:59,520 think people would come right from work 5467 04:19:59,520 --> 04:20:03,960 as opposed to you know going home you 5468 04:20:03,960 --> 04:20:07,319 feet up I get it it's hard to come back 5469 04:20:07,319 --> 04:20:11,279 up yes Mr Toro oh it was me Mr Williams 5470 04:20:11,279 --> 04:20:13,979 who said we should probably keep him 5471 04:20:13,979 --> 04:20:17,699 keep it in line seven o'clock meeting 5472 04:20:17,699 --> 04:20:19,979 um since originally we wanted to change 5473 04:20:19,979 --> 04:20:22,080 our meetings to a different time with 5474 04:20:22,080 --> 04:20:24,840 seven o'clock seemed to fit better to 5475 04:20:24,840 --> 04:20:27,779 most people's schedules so again that 5476 04:20:27,779 --> 04:20:29,939 was me that that made that suggestion 5477 04:20:29,939 --> 04:20:33,120 I'm open for the 5 30 to 7. it was fun 5478 04:20:33,120 --> 04:20:37,199 Mr motivary yeah I'm good at 5 30. the 5479 04:20:37,199 --> 04:20:40,800 September twins are selected 5480 04:20:40,800 --> 04:20:42,620 time with that 5481 04:20:42,620 --> 04:20:46,880 so we will hear from you 5482 04:20:46,880 --> 04:20:51,550 so um 5483 04:20:51,560 --> 04:20:54,540 just I'm all for that I think that's the 5484 04:20:54,540 --> 04:20:55,800 suggestion I'm just thinking about if 5485 04:20:55,800 --> 04:20:57,120 we're going to host it at the Boys and 5486 04:20:57,120 --> 04:20:59,699 Girls Club 100 that time slot might 5487 04:20:59,699 --> 04:21:01,439 impactor I believe in provide 5488 04:21:01,439 --> 04:21:02,880 programming I don't know if that would 5489 04:21:02,880 --> 04:21:09,170 be I'm sure in our customers 5490 04:21:09,180 --> 04:21:11,520 so uh 5491 04:21:11,520 --> 04:21:13,260 um I guess we have the interesting 5492 04:21:13,260 --> 04:21:15,420 motion that we agree on meeting having a 5493 04:21:15,420 --> 04:21:17,340 town hall meeting on Friday September 5494 04:21:17,340 --> 04:21:20,939 23rd at 5 30 to 7 pm 5495 04:21:20,939 --> 04:21:22,380 so 5496 04:21:22,380 --> 04:21:24,800 it's okay all those in favor all right 5497 04:21:24,800 --> 04:21:28,979 thank you okay the final items on the 5498 04:21:28,979 --> 04:21:32,399 agenda are for property sales so for 5499 04:21:32,399 --> 04:21:34,080 that reason we need to go to Tech 5500 04:21:34,080 --> 04:21:37,630 session 5501 04:21:37,640 --> 04:21:39,659 all those in favor 5502 04:21:39,659 --> 04:21:45,900 um and the public has to leave 5503 04:21:45,910 --> 04:21:48,510 [Music]