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committee meeting for Monday August 15
2022 the first committee is Public
Safety Mr Williams so I'd like to call
the order of the Public Safety Committee
we have four items on the agenda tonight
first of which is portable radios by
Chief Marina
and I assume he's in a while he was
going to be here
so everyone's in agreement moving to
this can attend item it's going to be
the axon officer Safety Management
contract approval by ACC
ENT okay
good afternoon everybody it's not
evening yet right good afternoon
so
I'm here today to ask that the council
approved or entering into an agreement
with axon for three separate
contracts one ordering in-car videos one
covering interview rooms and the other
one being officer safety plan
which has as the main component body one
cameras and tasers and before I before I
start this presentation I just wanted to
note that
I recognize that that this is a large
purchase on behalf of the city we have
not taken entered into this uh course of
action lightly
to it we've done a lot of research and
we've had many discussions and we've
communicated with many individuals
regarding this
also spoken to many agencies regarding
the purchase of this product whether
they like it or not some some positives
and negatives
those local agencies are Albany Troy the
rotterham city of Saratoga the county of
Saratoga we're also spoken with other
large agencies across the country
Michigan State Police Tempe Police
Department and Tampa Police Department
so the reason why we're here asking for
this is that we're facing uh an urgent
and immediate
urgency and a moderate need at the
police department the urgent need is
that the pandemic and the lack of
resources
backed us up on our cars that we
purchased two years ago they have
finally ends we finally have that
upfitted to the point where they need
ink cart videos we did not want to put
the ones in there that we had stepped
out because we had started these
considerations about changing vendors so
we had cars that are coming out to the
fleet right now that don't have any car
videos but we do have body warm cameras
and we're hoping that we can make a
decisions in car videos soon
um typically it costs about ten thousand
dollars per car
to put this camera in the car and then
it lasts throughout the life of the car
we do about eight to ten cars per year
so we're spending roughly through
Capital spending around 80 to 100 000
per year on cars just for any car videos
axon's platform uh service bases where
you just pay per month
essentially is budget Mutual in this
space where they put the cameras in the
cars they install them you pay a per
month basis or are you on a yearly basis
we essentially figured out that it's
budget neutral based on the life of our
cars
and in addition something that our
current cars cameras don't have these
come with lprs on every car license
plate meters so every car will be a
license plate reader and we foresee
increased revenues we hate being able to
identify Scott laws and collect
passenger Mouse over like that
the next need that is immediate but not
urgent is binding on cameras our prior
vendor
the life of those cameras are is slowly
coming up they are currently out of
warranty
they expect to last between three and
four years and they're about three and a
half years old now we will need to
replace them
it's time we purchase cameras
it's 144 000 for as many as we need
by entering into the exxon's agreement
those cameras are given to us free of
charge as long as we're paying as a part
of the officer safety plan so we can
replace those cameras now once we enter
into this that every two and a half
years they will place them automatically
we'll be upgraded technology
so that over the course of a 10-year
agreement that's poor Replacements total
the most the minority that we have which
means we do not have to replace it right
away but we're going to need to is for
our interview rooms
currently it's dated it's been replaced
already once in my time that I've been
to the tech division at Chief and we're
getting to the point where we're going
to have to replace it again
we have a grant that was given to us by
the District Attorney's office which
will fully fund this
so between last year and this year we
expect that we will have full funding
for the cost of the interview rooms
being upgraded to the axon platform
which will have more cameras and the
evidence that's collected in those
interviews will go directly to
address.com making it easy to shareable
with Mr attorney's office and defense
so the officer safety plan is the big
one I just want to go through again just
as somewhere of what it includes it
includes body mount cameras it includes
taser 7 which is the most up-to-date
taser that includes signal Activation so
when it's deployed the Bodywork camera
automatically comes on
and includes the virtual reality
training with monthly updates expert
content which is both for basic
intermediate and advanced experiences
it includes bias prevention features
but focuses on common accounters like
domestic violence Mental Health crisis
de-escalations scenarios
it also includes evidence.com digital
evidence storage which is cloud-based
storage unlimited cloud-based storage
Sigma sidearms which is a sick which is
a sidearm signal that when they're
control pistols is deployed the body One
camera comes on
it was Auto tagging or
when the camera comes on and then it's
turned off that information on it is
tagged to the incident number that
they're they're on
right now currently off well currently
we have that right now but
officers used to have to go on there and
tag it themselves it just includes that
respond and live stream and GPS so for
also safety we'll know where they are
based on a GPS this camera
and we are able also to welcome Command
Staff view officers and live stream
sugar be an incent that we want to view
from the police station
axon capture which is a mobile app that
allows officers to capture digital
evidence in your field
axon view which makes you makes videos
available or viewable without the need
to download digital player software this
is this is important because when we go
out and get videos sometimes we have to
download the players for those which
makes the city's I.T system are
susceptible to malware
our city it does a great job but every
time you download one of those softwares
it holds your breath of hope that
nothing happens
redaction assistant which helps us
redact videos the redacted video saves
us time and effort which means we save
money by having less people working to
project videos that we share with the
bubble
axon performance which measures the
metrics of office your productivity so
this is this we're better able for us to
manage officers and their use of this
equipment
acts on citizen which where citizens can
be invited to submit photos videos of an
incident directly to the agency through
evidence.com it's a one-to-one
submission
and a community-wide pool with the help
get to get to the truth quickly so
one-to-one is where we will go out and
we'll we'll ask an individual to present to us in their video that we
know they have but then there's a
community-wide portal where we can put
it out to the public on this incident if
you have video just submitting it here
so we could do it without without the
name being forwarded
excellent Channel Services which would
allow us to store evidence on other
things
came from other locations such as our
county-wide or Citywide camera system
Auto transcribe which helps us
transcribe uh finding on camera footage
right now we've sent that out and it
costs money every time we do it and that
acts on records which is something
that's still in the works but we see
that as being a records management
system of the future based on everything
that they're doing already
this comes with an auto refresh every
two and a half years so we immediately
get the equipment in year one year five
you're seven point five and you're 10.
so the the
big question here that I want to make
sure that I stress is
how does this improve Public Safety the
first thing to tell you is that axon's
mission
to grab my attention right away is to
protect life that's the mission of the
company to capture the truth
accelerate Justice and really what they
want to do is make the bullet obsolete
that's their mission
but protecting life is the most
important thing and it's important to me
because officer the office lives of
officers out there protecting the
communities my most important mission
right now it's also important that we
protect the lives of the public that are
out there being placed
I'm capturing the truth is going to help
do that it's going to help do it through
accountability
more encounters captured on Bodywork
cameras between the safe sidearm signal
the auto activations and also something
I didn't mention but
the the uh the auto activation happens
when if an officer is reporting and
another officer comes on the scene it'll
automatic turns the other officer's body
won't handle on also as long as one's
activated
it helps us with transparency to the
public which I know is very important to
the public
we do that through Auto reaction Auto
transcription make it easier for the
police Personnel to share information
easier to share evidence with District
Attorneys defense councils ports Etc
helps us with Community engagement using
this technology provides a bridge to the
Community Helping to keep their
communities safe citizens can share
videos of incidents with the police in a
timely and less intrusive manner
you also can use the virtual reality
platform to share with the public the
complexities of policing to being a
better understanding of what police have
to deal with and share with the public
why sometimes things don't look as good
as as they really as they are and and
have a better understanding that
sometimes situations don't always have
perfect outcomes there's not always an
easy Pathway to a solution
um improves Public Safety by providing
long-term cost savings by locking in
2022 pricing you have until the year
2020 2032 before the price of this
technology will go up
and we're getting state-of-the-art
equipment over the next 10 years
um you know and how does that help
Public Safety we can redirect resources
we otherwise would put close that
technology in other places
and I also mentioned I mentioned this
already but I'll say it again because it
helps with Public Safety is the virtual
reality training is really
state-of-the-art it's realistic it helps
with de-escalation it helps with
response to Mental Health crisis
domestic violence response to active
Shooters shoot don't shoot scenarios but
the decision whether to use a Taser or
your sidearm Community engagement
response to harm reduction scenarios
like what to do with somebody who might
be you know living in poverty possibly
homeless and how to help them
and then the last thing for Public
Safety again is Exxon performance
provides police supervisors and
commanders a platform to measure officer
performance all the way from from
accountability to productivity
so I'm open to questions if anybody has
any but my request is that the uh that
we move forward and allows to enter to
read separate agreements
thank you any questions or comments or
fellow counselors
how much of this gonna cost us initially
the uh the first
initially I guess it's fair to say that
we we have the funding set aside already
through grants and through capital
budget for all of these equipments for
pre-initial funding but for the officer
safety plan is 278 000 per year
and then for the in-car video it's eighty nine
thousand dollars
and then for the interview room it's
twenty thousand seven hundred
DA's office should pay for well they
will pay for the interview room as well
so what do we need to fund now 300 plus 89 000. right now there's there's
no funding requests because we already
have the money earmarked through Grant
sources and through Capital uh
already approved Capital funding we
won't be needing to have funding
requests implemented for you until year
three which we which our plan would be
to have it built into our operational
budget
thank you
any other questions or comments
so thank you Mr Williams
um just listening to what type um just
all the time that it's going to save
officers and lyrical work and things can
you actually see a savings in this
I do I do I say I see I see Savings in
many different places from our civilian
staff meeting West civilian staff to do
some of the work that this will do
automatically and then saving on our
training in where we could do more
on-shift training using the virtual
reality platform we will very soon have
our range Deployable in that area we
could use for the virtual reality
training and then from not having to do
the tagging
there's a Time Savings where we can get
officers back on the street much faster
I just wanted to um say so this also
comes with that discount if we if we
sign the contract if we move forward
with this contract they were seemed like
a
like us because we were going for a
multi-year
contract and I like if you want to just
reiterate that that's that's true excuse
me um
it comes with this pretty substantial
discount
the um
for the officer safety plan there's a
built-in 141
there's a built-in 1.4 million dollar
total savings which is 141 000 per year
and that's the savings from bumbling it
together and having entering into a
10-year agreement which
um is actually a five-year agreement
with a five-year Auto renewal right the
city would have the opportunity to act
out after five years the City also has
the opportunity
to opt out if the council does not fund
it each year
for the for the uh in car videos it's a
total of 300 000 savings by entering
into this agreement all at once and then
for the interview it's a fifty two
thousand dollar savings
full for 10 years
that's perfect
um Jake you mentioned something about
bias prevention features could you just
examine that a little bit
that's part of their virtual reality
which is they're going to create
platforms
um to work in that space to help train
officers to avoid implicit bias
falling so Chief first of all thank you
and I guess my question is around it
seems like we'll be able to really
capture a lot more data this way and a
lot more efficiently which I think we'll
have some here I'll call savings there
um to further that we would set that in
the more of having that cloud which I
was really I think is a really powerful
thing as they're going to be any policy
changes like around a group so when we
increase the the
capacity to capture data to your point
kind of like transparency is there
anything you need you foresee any
positive changes around us who can see
videos like like uh like is it video
analy that we can capture this much
video now is it something that like the
police
for Community review board would have
access to them and things like that I
can see that in the future once we get
it up and running I can see us being
able to share videos a lot easier right
now our our our biggest reason for not
sharing videos is resource dependent on
the ability to Auto redact and even Auto
transcribe is going to make it a lot
easier for us to attach those videos and
uh and that's the biggest reason we
don't share them is that it takes almost
eight hours to their document right now
right so the answer is yes as we evolve
we will change our policies to reflect
our capabilities
any other questions or comments
I know for myself I had the opportunity
to meet with Chief Clifford and just
have more of a deep dive into the
student benefits this program having a
background of the civilian police review
board I've seen some of the issues that
kind of inherently the police department
deals with where audible cameras aren't
activated due to situational issues and
a lot of these Technologies are going to
help deal with that so I appreciate you
going into detail about how this
benefits the public and I
excited to see how this should we
approve it benefits our city at large so
if there are any further comments if I
can have emotions so second all is your
favorite five
thank you thank you thanks Steve and
then we're going to move to the next
agenda item which is fiscal year 2022
State Homeland Security grant program
and that'll be PC membership I couldn't
pass this one move along so I tried
um
restaurant College is kind of a joint
Endeavor that we've been doing for years
this year we rewarded the 23 000 670 in
the legislation request you'll see the
breakdown and we kind of have some
Envision but if we would towards the
accident program and we wanted to
allocate this money towards 198 670
000 towards the Exxon program
um there is a five thousand dollar
support of C Central Station program
which is a state initiative that
we weren't necessarily mandated to
participate in those strongly suggested
and maybe we'll be preparing some some
opportunity as well this is tied in with
the health care system or any car video
system where we as Chief has stated just
to dive into the budget you know we
constantly look for Grants and to answer
your question about funding for this we
have two years worth of funding
available right now for the secure next
year's experience like you said have
been historically keep on coming that we
feel we can continue to tap into to
serve the purpose of the Soul Exxon plan
we know it's very expensive but it's
very important to the department and
we'll continue to research for some
funds and this is just one example of
how we're doing that as well
questions
um
thank you thank you you're gonna skip
back to the top uh it's going to be
portable radios by Chief corner
so I come to talk to you about a gram of
the receipt so if I first granted a year
ago it's a FEMA gram that's called
assistance required levels
our main focus when we wrote this grant
was the accountability and safety of our
Personnel not only our fire scenes but
also in a large scale
and what was available as far as
accountability
programs really didn't do what we were
looking for
the technology just wasn't there
so we looked in into a little bit deeper
and
the portable radios that we currently
have
um let me just back up
recently the county just went to a whole
new radio system they found another
Advanced radio system
so it has a lot of benefit to one of the
benefits is GPS
we have the ability now to locate
Whoever has that radio and where they
are
so that
is a major reason why we went for
additional renewals we broke this grant
to purchase
another 57 radios to supplement what we
already have on the job now and what
we'll be able to do is to issue a radio
to every member on the department so
when that member has that radio and it's
turned on it will be able to look and
that is a huge accountability
factor for this
so we wrote the Grant and it's a 458 000
plus dollar Grant
um
there is a city's component to it this
City would have to
um supplement 41 000 plus and we already
have the funding in our budget floor so
we moved that we I asked that you
approved us that we've accepted Grant
thank you
any questions or comments
I'll second it all in favor all right
thank you and then lastly we were
questioning the New York State's
Department transportation cleanup by Mr
twice thank you
um so I'd like to request the resolution
that um
I'd like to request set a resolution be
sent to New York State Department of
Transportation to take action to clean
up our
of um in Route 7 coming into Schenectady
and surrounding Schenectady
I've recently seen that mowing has
started but
to
immediately to the New York State
Department of Transportation asking that
it's a regular scheduled Mowing and
cleanup
any questions or comments yeah so was it
should we be doing the resolution we
should we ask for a lot of requested
that they do that
again a big resolution I was told to
request oh
that we should do resolution form as a
phone as opposed to live
request yeah
certainly the city council can pass the
resolution you know directing anything
you know requesting that the state take
action but you know obviously we did
that last at the last council meeting
you know with a resolution to the state
to take action related to speed cameras
so it's something that would defend the
city council for passing resolution
asking that the Department of
Transportation take care of Route 7 and
Interstate e-90 quarters
you have a question Mr mcgrant um yeah
um did we come to this in the past
if we had
been
very levels of effort put by the state
and some of their right-of-ways from
staffing issues so it becomes
you get a wetter season of course
there's more growth and then of course
it's what people do in terms of General
litter other things which detract phones
of people behave themselves of course it
looks better if they don't there's a
more negative impact otherwise just stop
which thumbs to our deal team the
regards to this I have not reached out
to dot units
thing that you want to do more
administrative because
you have the capacity
more than happy to call the regional
director
picking up through specific areas too
when concentrated on
this
the whole quarter and the whole economy
exit five coming down into the city
um seven foot
growth okay I'm trash you know people
pull up at the light throw something out
and move on but again with the litter
policy that we have going on in the city
um
supposed to touch that trash so again
coming down any exit into the city it's
just
overgrown hello Miss Patrick I mean I
can say that in my specific
hair cleanups at
of the
things that is near Broadway you know on
Broadway and we actually had stopped
doing so well I'm just saying that
volunteers can't really do it easily
over the dot had changed their
guidelines so we do
Park cleanup instead but I would support
this resolution because I think that um
having like I hope that the miracle call
also but I
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did as we have done now a couple of
times over the last several weeks
might add to emergency and I think
anything we can be doing to try to
purify especially the entrances to our
city it's really good so
any other questions so um can we like
add a request for signage as well
because I know there used to be a time
when there was a sign that were
assignment on there that said this is
much of a fine for living so it might be
worthwhile to if requested those if we
could get signage again as well
any other questions or comments yeah
just so Mr okay so I but I hear you
saying is that so so we don't have to
kind of pick we do both right the mayor
could you know make that call if you
decide to do so and then a resolution
um with all of our signatures on it you
know for lack of a better term might you
know demonstrate a little more
significant we draw a little more
attention to this right here yeah
absolutely I mean I know I campaign that
and I'm sure everyone campaigns on it
you know it's quality of life issues
here in the city I don't want to see it
your comments
if there are none if we have a motion to
prove the resolution and in addition to
requesting signage if I heard that
correctly
that's part of the message
so second all's in favor hi
if there are no other items to before
safety contact promotion to turn second
favorite
I'd like to call to order health and
Recreation we have one item on the
agenda and that is to um authorize the
mayor to enter into an agreement with
wmb golf carts for the lease of 62
Libyan power
golf carts and GPS systems at
Schenectady uni and um
it asked Mr Dan
good evening everybody
just described we're asking the city to
authorize an agreement into a five-year
at least
wmb golf carts they are
proprietor of Yamaha
golf carts and that is currently the
vendor that we're using right now
we have gas powered carts right now it's
kind of a hybrid version where they
sustain better gasoline mileage
you feel that it's better to move into a
Lithium powered battery operated golf
cart just get out of the old gas and a
view of things
particular batteries
apparently hold a longer charge
throughout the course of the day so for
instance if one of you wanted to play
you go out for 18 holes you can go out
and play another two rounds of 18 holes
on one charge
there's a lot of golf would be a little
tired
all the way through it
um
and the maintenance is just it's
ridiculously small as compared to what
you have to do with a battery or a gas
powered car now the engine making sure
that's running up you know tips out and
then when you had lead battery uh
carts I don't know if you've ever seen
But when you lift the seat up you can
see all the batteries in there and you
actually have to fill each battery with
water with lithium you don't have to do
anything it's just charge it you're not
um so we came to the decision to go with
wmb again based on the numbers they just
provided a much more uh competitive
number than the other two did
especially with their GPS
units that they're going to install the
carts for us the GPS is a nice feature
for golfers they can see how far they
are to the hole on of course we can put
advertising on there create some more
additional revenue for the course and a
benefit for the staff and myself is we
can see where every single golf cart is
in the golf course
and now they've even gotten so updated
that we can see for instance if your car
was out on the 15th hole it's near a
very low charge we could run out and
replace it for you so it doesn't happen
another benefit is if a player is
driving into an area they're not
supposed to be like an entirely
sensitive area the car will shut off and
then they would have to literally back
up out of that area
so we may be shutting those off about
100 times a day
but we will be able to do that so
they'll be much quieter
like I said much less maintenance I
think it's
I think if you have any questions that
we have to answer those questions
okay if there's no questions or comments
I'd like to ask for a motion absolutely
the second second all in favor
aye okay thanks
oh I'm sorry I'd like to call for a
motion to adjourn uh health and
Recreation in a second and all in favor
thank you that's called government
operations order we have one
item on the agenda and that is a
reminder amending amending of the city
ordinance regard to residency
requirement and this
Mr President Porterfield thank you so um
you know we've been discussing this and
we did have a public hearing regarding
amending the state ordinance 876 debt
one we've already residency we had five
people come to speak of public hearing
and um on the 8th so next step is
actually ringing before the council for
those things on that so if anyone has
any questions or concerns about the
discussion that that happened at the
city council engagement
just a moment
I still think there needs to be some
sort of differential between City
employees staying in the city and versus
not safe
I have no problem with it expanding the
residency requirements obviously it's
needed but
you know City staff who live in the city
should have some sort of differential
advantage to being here because we've
seen it with the school district where
we have superintendent living in Clifton
Park a vice superintendent living in
this unit engaged with that Community
they're not engaged with our community
and you want our employees to be in the
city if they can because it'll be more
engaged and
you know we should have some sort of
difference for them
you know if you're not living in the
city you shouldn't make the same mess if
you live in the city
and everything
um but the financial implications of us
trying to do that are going to be huge
we have a lot to look at and um we do
have a board current well there's a
residency board available for us to
waiver for people who when they have a
specialty that we it's difficult for us
to fill we can do that and additionally
we already are in the situation where we
have employees who live outside the city
who live in the county and that clearly
demonstrate that we need to be able to
hire and expand our pool of people that
we can hired from and it's not a problem
that's only to Schenectady it's all over
people are struggling to build
um positions we are as I've heard it
described operating on a skeleton crew
of people so I I you know we really need
to um do something so that we're
supporting our employees so that we're
getting the work done so that um people
aren't stretched very very thin and
um and I know the mayor always says you
know if we're if we're suffering
anyplace but sometimes things happen
that we aren't getting done that we
don't always necessarily see initially
so I'm you know I really think that we
should move this forward the county has
already done this they've done this I
didn't think they did this five years
ago or more and
um
I think it's just time we do that in
order to fill some of the numerous
openings that we have in the city
so
yeah so I so this is a issue that kind
of my thinking past a long time you know
um because originally I was completely
against this
um and I was against it because I want
to make sure that we are prioritizing
people to live that live in the city I
want to make sure that the money that
we're paying out in the city is
supporting our current tax paying our
current tax base as long what what Mr
Pauline is talking about that level of
Engagement investing in the community I
think that those are all good reasons
um to uh you know have some concerns
about this however ultimately
don't have the people
to do the job
right now and considering the current
labor market we have to be responsive
and adapt so I think that you know I
think it really has evolved in that and
I I am in support of this
um
I also would think that we need to be
really thinking about being creative how
we incentivize people living in the city
because that is a I think it's a really
reasonable concern so I think that we
should um when I think
or that might be something that they
appropriate task for them I know to be
able to
better answer that so I mean I think
that all things considered any it's a
reality that we have a responsibility to
address but I also think that we should
kind of think about ways that we can
incentivize people to actually literally
see
I actually would say the same thing my
eye was originally
um
against this proposal primarily because
I really feel very strongly that when
you have folks living here they're going
to be invested here they're going to
have pride here and they'll get involved
and they will do everything that they
to make sure that the city remains a
wonderful place to live it gets even
better as a place to live I think that
we've seen on throughout time especially
through this last
um
revitalization Decades of Schenectady
that it's been groups of people one
right after the other that have done
things that have helped this city to
continue to flourish and grow so I think
having our employees living here is
really important
feel very strongly about that however
the idea that Mr Paul Manning brought up
at the last committee meeting of having
the differential in some way an
incentive for the employees given the
employment crisis that we are facing
um and the reason why this brought this
forward to try to increase that
catchment area I think those two things
work very well together I think that we
should be definitely considering the
differential so I don't know if we move
it forward today out of committee
can we still add on the differential or
should we be
adding that in here today
before we move it out of committee I'm
asking the question I wasn't
but I I really want to see that
differential
um added in
so those are Financial things that would
really have to talk to our finance
department about that's not something we
can do
today and say that I will say though
that it uh for to me for me we would
definitely include the fact that if we
had two employee two candidates who were
people and one lives in the city and one
lives in the county then the person in
the city is the person that we would
choose to definitely have that part of
the legislation but it would really
increase our bottom line if we were to
try to and would push this out even
further if we would really try to make
sure we get those financial things in
place I know we're going into budget
season and that's certainly something we
can consider at that time
so I know for me I think if we're
discussing differentials they would have
to incorporate staff Who currently live
within the city for it to be implemented
equitably in my opinion but I think if
there was an opportunity to raise wages
even in deferential I would be more in
line with rewarding the staff that
remained on despite our staffing
limitations and we're still invested in
the city despite having limited
Staffing I think if we're going to
Courtney wage differences I again the
work that our city employees are doing
in their current situations is
applaudible and I appreciate everyone
who continues to be a part of all the
work that is happening here in this
building and
increase the level of applicants and
prioritize living in the city again my
position would be how do we appreciate
the people that are here while also
still working forward to increasing our
application
so a couple things first of all
in regards to an employee applicant for
either the city or elsewhere
sure if they're equal we want to hire
the city best but we can't just say
we're going to hire the city president
regardless if someone is more
qualified then you hire that person
that's the point of this legislation so
to say that is just would be wrong and
then secondly
um
doing this regardless isn't going to
solve the problem overnight quite
frankly it probably won't solve a
problem
um and I would recommend that if we're
going to do this it's not only just the
county but we open it up if you're truly
going to open up the applications and
you open them up you don't just open it
up for the account
and this way we can get application
pools up and quite frankly like I said
still not going to solve this problem
get more applicants and maybe we'll take
a dent in the summer but this uh
honestly we really should do something
to
make a difference for those that are
living in the city who are engaged who
are putting their skin in the game and
their money in the game and
I really truly
that's where I'm at so so it seems like
there's really there is a there's seem
like there's an alignment of ideology
here that we think that clearly you know
I think we do this in other spaces right
we prioritize you know the people are
trying to purchase even you know safety
properties we want to prioritize people
who are going to live in the city
because we know there's just inherent
value that the you know uh you know
different levels of just long-term
investment and also neighborhood
stabilization as well so I think that
you know we would approach to approach
this with that same lens we do well
um
but I think to
there are other voices that you know
will need to be at the table as far as
we talk about um
you know uh the differential
um of which you know I would say I
consider more like as an incentive to be
here and I think that that might even
include like Barbie demons at some point
I'm not really sure you know how that
works so I think that
right now we could kind of be meeting
the moment of responding to we got to
grow the African poor
um but
strongly suggest we keep our eye on the
ball and how are we going to
give you kind of differential indoor
incentive for people
I suppose but I would say to your point
of expanding beyond the county limits I
think if we change
or incorporate too too high of a change
in policies or anything it's not as
measurable so although I agree that the
change isn't bound to happen overnight I
think we're all realistic with that
understanding I think if we're not
measurable then we won't understand how
we adjust and move forward in the future
course it's measurable we know where our
employees live we'll know who's taking
jobs who's not we know who's at applying
who's not applying we'll be able to
track that that can easily put it be put
into a GIS system or a database to to
address that and to your point you're
absolutely right with the bargaining
units but if we don't put that into this
legislation that it's going to be
addressed then it typically won't be
addressed and that's why I'm saying it
should be in part of this I'm not saying
it's initial okay we're putting out the
job announcement you live let's get
there and you apply you get the job of
course right now we don't have that
ability to to renegotiate the contract
but at some point it needs to be so we
move forward with with the higher but I
would like to see it included in this
because otherwise it won't be
adults comics
of course oh I'm sorry I'm sorry thank
you
so of course I am in favor of the
presidency
well that's in effect
um I think I I asked before if um you
know we could just do an overall raise
and I think that was done a couple of
years ago it's not in the budget to a
given overall raise but again I think I
think because of what people put into a
community and how they want to live here
and I don't want to see people already
employed here in the city looking to
engage themselves out elsewhere and live
and put into that community and
City that they before so again
I I would be in favor of a differential
if we could determine what we want but I
really am in favor of a residency for
we've been in effect since 1988 but I I
think it's been good for our city
all right is the council looking to do
this progressively or is a blanket to
take employees who say are in
non-compliance today in
waive their violation of any residency
requirement
the goal that I have is that we expand
it to the county and and we can then
take a look and see how I have to agree
with Mr Williams at how that's working
out and this is not something because I
you know I'm not here on every day but I
do listen to and talk to the employees
who are here every day and they are
saying that we are clearly understaffed
so although we're the decision makers
we're deciding with the staff and not
necessarily just for them so I think he
really has to listen to that voice and
we have we can see that you know that
there's these three additional stuff and
so my my answer to your question is that
we expand to the county at this point in
time going progressively so people I
hired tomorrow
awesome
yes and are you are you asking me the
people who currently worked in the city
and and live outside the city or they
included in this
when I say are they grandfather then is
that your question that's my question I
would say yes
I don't see how we I personally don't
see how we exclude them when they've
been here doing the job
and you know where you currently live
outside the city I I don't see them by
inference I have direct knowledge and
take affirmative action
some people file
what appears to be residency within the
city
creates really an awkward two-tiered
system
I will tell you I've been around a
number of years I joke but I've been in
my office I have never had anybody sit
and chairs in my office say they're
overpaid or a department is overstaffed
the nature of what
we do
people are under pressure to perform
covid is strained
delivery of services
hiring not only within the city has been
difficult for
I'll say the last six months maybe a
little bit longer or clearly seem to
shift it
in terms of the available candidates and
candidates interviews some today
city is not a question but be here
understand what the law is today and
would be more than willing to comply
with
you yeah just a couple of questions with
regards to when we when we call into the
residency and the public hearing we
asked for it to be extended from the
county yes if we were to go beyond that
what we would we need another public
hearing
I would
yes
uh I would say that it would
substantially change the language that
was reviewed and it should be
entertained in another public hearing
and also a follow-up question in terms
of incentive I don't think we mentioned
incentive in the public hearing do we
need to add a it would be everywhere
till that it would be a new move forward
if you're proposing language to include
in the code then I would suggest that
you have another public hearing to
include that because it is a substantial
change
so I think
what we're saying well first I have a
question Lisa maybe you're saying like
what we suggested that people would be
exact like I don't understand personally
what they would be acceptable from
because like they're hearing what I
don't understand what we're saying like
my question currently they create the
impression of the residence of the city
and
they love the ultimate
okay
I would I put you know I put this
forward we've been discussing for a
while I'd like to see us move forward as
is and if we need to discuss it further
and changing starving the public hearing
otherwise we're kicking this hand down
the road
and I think most of us agree anyway that
we need to increase our staff and we
have to figure out ways to do it and so
we could you know discuss discuss this
like for a month on end and not take any
action but we need to take action
and again I can come up with this just
because I thought of it but but because
staff is saying it and in addition to
that there are people
um that have applied but cannot work
here be just because they live outside
the city
that's okay
um I I would like to
um I think that I unless we do a strong
a straw kind of thing but I think
we need to have another public hearing
to talk about the differential and the
community
um that was the other piece
it's finally Beyond account expanding
behind beyond the county I think we
should have that public hearing facility
we said that tonight we would be able to
have that public Hearing in two weeks
scratch yeah
it would be well the collected
bargaining is a whole separate issue and
that can't even I mean no I mean we
can't I mean that would have to be
something that's outside of what we're
talking about here this evening
anyways however it's going to be part of
increasing and incentivizing that's not
something we can decide that has to be
part of the collective part of the need
so that's that's going to take them to
be an even longer process
because they agree with yourself they
said that's why the mayor sits with with
the different humans and they come up
with that so does the residence you
require an already part of those
negotiations
and I don't have any contracts that are
open
right now the police are coming up
uh
in management employees
compensation package solely with
discretion of the accounts so you could
incentivize your deed incentivize that
the collective bargaining process gives
broad discretion to the mayor's position
in terms of
course
conditions that we're looking for in the
contract we've always done that
consultation with the council but the
PBA will be the next
unit
what's up and their contract
pretty much already deals with residency
to you know see that
it's not going to be a lot of
maneuvering in there nor would I
recommend spending a lot of time or
effort and trying to make major changes
out of it as we can put it forth
discussion either get some incremental
movement
a lot
bigger issues than the public safety
than the residency
and as you said the police in the fire
this does not apply them anyway they are
required by state right so that doesn't
apply so it's just other employees so
again I'd like to see us move this along
and not continue to bring it back
because the discussions that we had in
tonight or discussions
that could have been brought up as we
were going through this but here we are
now we're gonna um
can you give us a brief update on how
many new applicants you have received in
your office or requirements on how many
new hires do they have to
check with HR tomorrow morning
I don't see the
uh issued unavailable
individuals continue we're starting to
see people who are interested in coming
back to work
applying and so we're going to look back
at this as a period of time when the
city had difficulty in hiring people and
so did other levels of government in
businesses as well yeah and that was the
reason why I asked the question when
getting started to pick up now and see
how I think
like to see how many vacant positions we
have
because I know there's a number of them
so first of all this was brought up when
this initial conversation started
secondly it was brought up for the last
two budget cycles and then have support
theory in those times and then with
regards the contracts know what won't
impact the police are fired but it can
impact the management and it can be part
of discussions with the other
requirement units if we pass saying that
we will have some sort of differential
or incentive for employees to live in
the city of course they'll bring that
part into the contract negotiations so
we can put that in now and when the
units come for uh
negotiation of course that'll be harder
we do that with vacations and other
things that we want so that would be an
obvious uh extension
and to add another
wrinkle here that
um
in terms of
if we wanted to if we're trying to solve
what might be we will have numbers when
we see the new update updated chart
figures
um
we also could add in that this is a
temporary solution to the hiring as well
that we put a time period on whether we
has the waiver of a residency
requirement for a certain amount of time
to solve some of the hiring issues that
we're currently facing which we know for
sure if we're facing once we see the
figures
and then go back and have the residency
requirement again so that would be in
other words that speaks a little bit to
the measuring issue as well because
I mean obviously we're going to know if
we if we expand it and we start to see a
flood of applications and that's your
measurement right
but at the same time there is that
little wrinkle as well if you wanted to
talk about that but we could make this a
temporary
Arrangement
so I I agree as far as like because I
don't think anyone and I could be wrong
probably anyone is like wants this is
something that you know we want to do
you know just to do it this is
definitely us responding to uh the labor
market and things that all
municipalities are facing right but most
of them are so it's like
I agree with it being temporary
um but I would say just temporary based
on us fulfilling the need and then us we
are saying okay now that need is met now
we can be responsive and
I just think that the time limit for
that that will kind of like you see what
I mean like that might be a vehicle for
me to be safe okay we're going to do
this for six months but at six months we
don't need that meet tomorrow so it's
like we do this
um and I think we do this progressively
I think we you know uh to your point
kind of like meet the moment of of the
need of the city right now and then we
um
incorporate some measurements and then
we just recommend and be responsive and
say hey maybe we can right now we're
fully staffed and we could uh
reiterate The Residency requirement
I'd like to see a public hearing for
moving The Residency requirement at all
not just the county and then with the
independent program is a student program
is referring to
questions and comments but we're not
putting this on take the reminder so we
get to vote on Monday
are we moving this icon
this evening as for
public hearing
whoa
this is just a reminder right so we're
working this is a reminder yeah so we
have the public hearings
so so then so we'll so we'll be moving
it as um so then we need to be something
as as is as this answer now and then
what do you think okay
or you could do the other public hearing
if this doesn't pass out a committee
so you have options yeah yeah so right
so what it sort of seems like to me is
what we're saying that we're going to
what I think we do is we move it out
with the understanding that we need to
be uh looking to find ways that we that are actually
doable to incentivize people that work
in living in the city so with that said
I'll entertain emotion for this
um
please
so before before you do that with with
another public hearing I mean Mr
Williams yourself Miss Patrick this
morning
have all spoke that they would like
another well to the fact of different
things need to be put into that so we
need to entertain that with
um incentive and opening it up to
though though I agree 100 I also know
that when we're talking about we're
talking about an incentive there are
there variables that are going to go
into that that I don't I feel
comfortable saying like oh this is what
we can do right now so what I'm so what
I'm suggesting is we move to meet the
moment open up the uh the pool so we
cast a wider neck to get more qualified
employees with the understanding that
we're going to um look for ways to
incentivize people that live in the city
because again that's something I agree
when you're just talking a matter of
weeks to have another Target here I mean
it's not like it's going to change
anything like that
um I still think you know let's have the
public hearing with opening it up and
being sent
and granted you're correct with regards
to the incentive but that could be
written in such a way that it would
address it so we could hire like I said
if you're from scare you take the job we
could hire you there wouldn't be a
differential at this point but we could
figure that piece out as we go along
um I'd like to again keep this with the
county and not move it beyond that and
if we want to include language to say we
will incentivize when those contracts
come out I'm certainly open to that but
I don't I think that we should be going
Beyond accounting point at this point
thinking we should you know stay there
and you know I'm open to like I said
including incentivizing them when you
get to that point we have to take a look
at that and just to clarify what I said
was if it's two applicants who are
equally qualified then really chose the
city at camp so I again would like to
move it out of committee with the um and
I will influence the language that said
we look incentivize when you know who
we've had that is something we could do
when you came to
um
looking at the bargaining units again
but to move it out and stay within the
county so we're saying so I agree so
we're saying to move it out but we're
including the language that
um we'll be looking to uh incentivize
people that live in the city I thought
that two
well I'm sorry cam direct legislation
what you're going to do is gonna I'm not
happy with it you're going to get it
back in two weeks
start again
if I'm not happy with it you're gonna
get it back in two weeks
so the draft legislation is what came
out to the public hearing and what needs
to be added is what Mr power means about
father so we could see that before
Monday
I think that what I've heard Mr Colton
say was that we have to have a public
hearing if we are going to
change what was the public hearing that
we had a couple of weeks of
last week that we would have to have
another public Hearing in order to put
the language in above
any kind of um incentive slash
differential whatever
would it be
so I think that's what the holdup is is
it's all completion yeah that's correct
um if we're changing the language to
substantially which is I would say you
know extending you know beyond
Schenectady County and even putting
language in related to
incentivizing you know uh residency in
the city of Schenectady that would be
you know even separately let alone
together oh that's a significant change
that would require a public hearing
because
essentially people have not had an
opportunity to speak on this that
proposed change
in that case I would I would like to
continue motions movie as it came on the
public hearing
the way to do this progressively too
right like we can do this as we go right
like that's that's what I'm here yeah so
then we don't lose anything by moving it
out as it is now and then
adjusting the changes which I
um support
um
as far as incentives right so we can
still do that so we're not going to
necessarily
the only issue with that and you're
correct you can absolutely do that
here now let's say passing something it
goes through HR employees are applying
on it this way let's assumed for sake of
argument the other stuff passes two
three four weeks later it all changes
again it kind of doesn't make sense to
do that to HR to applicants and so forth
why not just wait for two weeks whatever
it is get the public hearing done can be
done with it once and for all so that
applicants aren't confused HR isn't
confused everybody's not confused or I
would say answer that one because we've
already done a public hearing on this as
it is right so correct so being that
we've already done that we're at the
point now again where this isn't taking
away from
um further changes um
what we're saying is that we're right
now we've done that process so we can at
least get this part out the way and
bring people in um and Cast Away
so when when you're having applications
though
you're saying you first you put out the
job announcement you got to live in the
city now we're changing you got to live
in the county and then if we decide to
change it you can live wherever and I
mean within a small period of time
you're changing all the rules right
that's all I'm saying look you're making
it very complex by doing that you know I I can appreciate that but I
think that what I'm hearing is that as
we if we if we're doing this and
progressively we're not saying in a
couple of weeks we're going to say let's
open it all the way up we're saying like
let's open it up to the county cast a
wider net then have some time to see if
that meant the need and then if it
hasn't been to need them and consider
her now we have to open it up you know a
lot
I'm sorry Mr Williams and the medicine
is going to say is just playing
sometimes that's why you read the whole
job application so I mean it'd be
different if we were hiring a bunch of
kindergarteners if I could just put it
lightly but I think everyone that
applies for these jobs are competent
enough if they have any questions they
can always contact the HR office that's
submitted on the bottom of every job
application I'm not saying that it is
not going to cause some potential
discomfort but I think with the
narrative consistently being that our
council is slow to act I think we have
made substantial steps as Mr Coleman has
highlighted to put any more changes
prolong this topic Mr Farley is plainly
outlined that we can accomplish both as
so magically captures every council
meeting because all things can be
correct tell me more
so I think we push forth what we've
already had and heard from from the
community and this conversation is a continued to get all the
information I appreciate Vanessa Patrick
highlighting that and Mr Farley that
they were not on board at first and I
I'm open to hearing more details about
adding in differentials but at this
point the city has made it abundantly
clear that they need help let's give
them the help and let's continue this
conversation
um so again with
um the differential incentive
so there may be employees even in this
room going something like
since I live here I'm going to get more
money right right
um so like just let me saying
just like you say by how confusing it
may be to
employees listening right now who live
in the city and all of a sudden we pass
this
there may be an incentive down the road
is there going to be an incentive down
the road what's my incentive going to be
um so by are these new hires going to
get an incentive and we're not going to
should I say that we have
not take this process that's myself I I
to actually to your point I think that
you are kind of aligning with uh what Mr
Williams is just saying because it's
like because that came there can be some
confusion there so so we uh so we do
this um progressively and say this right
here is the the wrong way to taxes but
we're dealing with right now and then
that part as far as incentives where I
think we all I think most people seem to
agree is necessary then we cross that
bridge when we get to it that's what I
mean
so with that said I'm going to entertain
emotions
I mean if you if we pass this as this
right an employee moves out of the state
Who currently lives in the city
that's well within their prerogative now
and then if we decide to have some sort
of progressive path
process like you're talking about well
if you live in the city you're going to
get
kind of like a yo-yo type thing and I
believe we want this to move and speak
for itself it seems there's support for
public a new public hearing
so if there's a support for a new public
hearing why were we just waiting two
weeks and do the new public hearing I
I'm not I'm all for a new public hearing
I personally think that we need to have
a new public hearing on on the issue
that we're talking about as far as the
incentive incentivizing things because
we didn't bring that to the public we
didn't get the feedback but at this bus
before we're at now we did do the public
hearing we did lose some feedback and we
all well most of us seem to be in
agreements of of expanding casting a
wider net to attract some more Talent so
let's not let the group be the enemy of
the great let's move on what we can move
and and and
a hundred percent agree let's open up
public hearing Mr Moon yeah I was just
asking a question because I I know the
fact that if you were to add any items
like this was a significant changes
cosmetic only mentioned we will need
another public I was just asking the
question yeah in terms of that trolling
out there that this is needed
support
so I didn't want to just follow up on
that Mr Miller Baron so would you be
supportive of the incentives and on
expanding the reach beyond the county I
support incense and what I think we call
for public hearing and we set out the
draft agenda
we could have discussed this a little
bit more to add those things at that
point in time but we didn't as a council
I'm not letting anybody we all should
have done that and to put that in there
so we're kind of like okay this is what
we did the draft let's revise it unless
but now we're asking that question
I
think we should move forward as far he
says and you know look at the incentive
but then it comes to the incentives Maya
does that as we part of the marketing
unit that you have to personally uh
think machine with contracts
my assumption
is a reflective artery you have to be
done through a contract could the
council enact the local law or an
incentive structure that did not affect
any employee now but took effect at some
point in the future
that might be the council's product
again we have to do some research on
that to
I'm not something we can look at in
terms of I think there is a product
consensus here in terms of insensitive
and I don't think any one of us are
against that so I think we should look
at that and work at um you know McCarthy
in terms of where do we arrive or that
we just moved out as a resolution of
public hearing that allowed Amir to
negotiate with contracts to add that in
or we just do a standalone resolution
applied inside of across the world
so I'm looking to move what we have
right now
and then continue to look at these
things and it's very important for us
a few seconds
so I will
entertain motion to move as is
you jump in the front stealing my
thunder here okay
all included in the packet today
it's provided it was a provided and at
the um for the public area
yes yes right so we're moving I was
presented in public here right yes
so
I'm in all the papers all right
this time I'd like to call to about an
emergency John second all the favor all
right
I would like to call to order Finance on
the first items the bond audience for
construction of water wells based to
Mississippi
yes
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what we're requesting here is phase two
of the water wells construction of the
water wells uh back in
2021 in November we passed a an original
uh
combine for 7.7 million and that was
actually for the construction of the
wells themselves the construction of the
casings where we're asking for uh here
is now the phase two of the project
which includes uh uh the housing
existing pipes uh chlorine systems and
uh skating units one of the reasons why
we did this in two phases is by doing
the two phases we're eligible for two
blocks of Grants uh three million three
million so it will help us
what our total project costs around 12
to 13 million we're hoping to get 6
million in Grants so that's why we did a
phase one and phase two
phase one portion
um I think we've just received notice I
think we got the three million we're
just waiting for the paperwork uh this
will as as we uh if you pass this uh
ordinance this is gives us the ordinance
to uh fulfill the requirement to apply
for the US second grant for three
million also
questions
injury
if I can just add a little bit to what
Anthony said
previously the city council also
declared a self-leading agency in the
secret process there was a neck deck
that was issued accordingly we don't
have to go through the secret process
again because when the council did it at
that point in time it covered the entire
project so we don't have to do it again
there's no expansion of the project
that's still working within the bounds
of the last secret process
so you suggest phase one and this is
phase two
go ahead please yeah
um apparently looking to leverage this
with the grants and using whatever's
left over out of the Arca funds that way
we don't have to fund it yes we did not
buy that any money as of yet and what
we're doing all this is to apply and get
as much a grant and infrastructure and
grants that we can but this is one of
the rules uh that the uh the government
and these agencies want is to be able to
have a police if you didn't get any
grant money right
you have to have the ability to pay the
contractors to do less work so we're
lining up the lending for this work at
the same time
applying for Grants or other incentives
to offset the cost so as Mr Ferrari has
pointed out we thought we were going to
have bigger expense up front so far
we've had none but we have to say that
the city is willing if 20 doesn't come
forward to be able to pay for again
these new wells
the ones that are just at the end of
their life expectancy I understand that
but in the next I guess that deals with
the next discussion but there was
nothing put in for water wells and the
article funding so that's
I am just looking at other funding that
is available or becoming available for
water and wastewater that this project
may qualify for
opposed to you
th cargo plumbing and cargo funds
already
taking a shot it's looking especially in
terms of the infrastructure money that
I've had I obviously has we uh do we
have any idea what we're going to
receive at this point in time
I don't have any
specific in whether a lot of that is
competitive so you have to do an
application for it as opposed to like
the article one whose formula
how much we were going to get
any other questions
well I'll move this second
sorry a motion to promote
thank you very much
that was nice yeah
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Authority
I can appreciate the discussion we
started two weeks ago
to put forward the series of
recommendations for
getting Garfield the city has received
into consideration we look forward to
the discussion
thank you Mia I appreciate
um we are outline that you provided for
us over the weekend and then I'm not
sure if everyone had an opportunity to
read and there were several of needs to
the in terms of the description being
added to the projects besides the cause
so
I will open up for discussion about my
colleagues
yes thank you so based on our last
conversation a couple weeks ago what was
the mayor brought forward
um I think there was consensus at the
table there were a couple of projects
that were a part of it and I believe
there was enough consensus at the table
to be able to move those projects out so
I'm sure there's going to be a lot of
discussion but I think that's a good
starting place and one of those projects
was the Central Park Pool which we know
we already paid for the design is
already worth doing being done there
and the other room was the irrigation
for the golf course so
um I think that if we could start those
discussions there and just make sure
that you know everybody is in agreement
it's still two weeks later and then I
mean I personally have some other
smaller projects that I um
city-based projects that I would like to see funded we asked a advisory
committee to come and give their time
and effort into looking at those and so
I have some of those like to move
forward but I thought that might be a
good place to start
um you can see how where people were
with those two particular projects
it's the Center Park and the dogs
but in person again we've always talked
about the one block of money being the
pool Cropper
another
set of money for the ancillary
development of lighting walkways parking
to connect a diamond
music Haven swimming pool chair Avenue
parking lot and going over to
Thomas's Pavilion so that that I've been
carrying a two million dollars in the
document that's provided to you
that we have not done the design work
done and so that number is a good faith
estimate
I hope it'll be less I also know just
today's market and some of these things
will come in at a higher
price point
so I just I just want to clarify so I
was suggesting that we move forward on
what was presented which was 4.5 last
time I see the additional things here
but like you say that wasn't part of
design so my recommendation was on the
4.5 that came to me before us and then
of course we look at those other things
that need to happen once we you know get
the real numbers
um and then the golf course came in it
was a different amount before but right
now it's uh 3.5 yeah save outline for
the whole
carpet allocation in the golf course
before was divided into two
comments yeah so the last time I gave
you a number of one and a half million
this one is three and a half million
which covers the
estimated cost for the entire project
I'm supporting the three and a half
go ahead please I want to speak to um
I'll speak to both projects I want to
start by speaking to the golf course
project obviously I know that this
predates me on household but at least
for the two and a half
the Canadian fourth Golf Course project
natural period of time the costs for
that project already have increased so
the golf course is
a jewel in our city it is a revenue
driver in our city it's part of a health
and wellness of residence I think that
the folks at the golf course do a
wonderful job as well with youth in our
city and the
new to our youth so I absolutely am in
favor of the 3.5 for the golf course and
I appreciate bringing those forward this
evening Madam president and then in
terms of the project for the senator
Park Pool again I think that project
just
very um
a project that goes beyond just the pool
but also has other types of improvements
in it I don't
um I know there's other things broken up
here in your
recommendations but I absolutely think
we need that tool I know on at least two
days during the last Heat Wave that we
had we had to shut down
um
which
practically right in terms of out of
this
beautiful and creative
problems of course the
clean it
refill it we were able to open it a week
ago today but it was close Saturday and
Sunday and it's just two hot days you
know
exclusive
so I was completely support both of
these projects and would like to see it
that we moved out tonight because you
did
just follow me
oh sorry
so um I I am in complete supportive of
projects as well for all the reasons
that were mentioned especially you know
these are one Century Park is due to our
community and Golf Course um
is a does create Revenue not only create
Revenue but it brings Revenue into the
City and after looking around and
calling calling around
research you know I started to recognize
that our Golf Course is really one of
the best municipal golf courses around
you know by far is what I hear so
um yeah I was pleased with that so with
that being said I support both projects
as well I'd like to see anything tonight
seems like they're going around so I
will ask sorry that it was hard but I
will do that for two projects so that we
can get a consensus and move forward
so I'd say uh Central Park and without
to blame her the
date that's definitely the pillar of our
community and I think the redesign
efforts are going to further staple that
fact again as Miss Porterfield mentioned
uh
I'm in agreement with supporting what
was brought forth making sure we still
leave those considerations for the other
projects so I'm in agreement with the
4.5 in addition to the golf course I
have the opportunity to spend some time
with Mr Bailey a few days ago a few a
while ago I won't fit up here and
definitely as Mr Farley stated it's
definitely an amazing resource I still
need to take my buyers offer to take me
around the greens but I definitely
recognize its value and I think it's
worth mentioning that uh definitely
making sure that our entire Community is
on board with understanding that hey
we're making this investment and we want
it to be utilized so continuing
school district and also
making sure it is used by fire residents
is absolutely one of my priorities
I'll move the allocation of 4.5 million
for the Central Park Pool and 3.5
million for the golf course
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I think these are two significant
projects for our city and I think
we are all supportive of this project so
I am too I am very supportive of the 4.5
million dollar plus the 450 000 we
already allocated for the Central Park
pool construction
and also the 3.5 million dollars for the
golf course
so
we're all equipping the first item first
allocation second allocation
we want to move down to the next
Quarterfield you have taken a lead on
this to your activity do you want us to
walk us through
what else I think I made a motion so you
may ask for a second are we doing them
individually or are we I thought how I
understood it was we were doing those
two individually
no no I don't think so
but I like what I said was that I
thought we should start there because
those were two that'd come before us
before and what I also said was there
were other items that I had looked at
that I wanted us to do but I wanted to
make sure that we discussed those
because there were two things that we
were brought before us before that's how
I started this session now that we're
just moving on those two
yeah so let's move as much as we can to
see
the season starts you know thought is
because I mean it doesn't make any sense
foreign
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so the Empowerment Center
it's actually also on the marriage Hood
but and it's something that that I
definitely support and so
um to the Empowerment Center is the
building that we did currently at 818
Albany Street and
um something that Mr Gardner are from
the vaccine manager has been working on
for this project for a while and he put
a full description in the um application
that he that um that was submitted and
how it would help mwbes as well as
section three people and just give have
actually a space to do that training so
that amount was 875 500 and so I
definitely um support that one
hospitals I'm sorry I have to remove
what what uh item are you looking at
this
it's under you
okay yeah sorry
what was that amount
875 500. 875 500 dollars
to ask a question about that one so they
asked for 610
000 uh
I read unless I'm reading it incorrectly
from the materials that we were sent
um
according to what the department of
developed said they've asked for 875.50
and then that was the document that was
sent to us back in April is what the
requests were in that documentary but
it's on the spreadsheet um in the
spreadsheet that is netlife who sent us
followed previously it was about 8
750
880 750 000 was the total project cost
with
um the requested amount being six
hundred and ten thousand dollars for
75.43 of the project costs would be
coming from harp of funding
um so those were the previous
spreadsheets that I had well with the
theaters here bill um so what is the the number in this
proposal the million 75 500 yeah it's
based on a combination with the dirty
Foundation which
uh dog training and small business
assistance so they have submitted an
application as well that support really
high right
um and so that that number basically and
we met with both Ron and that member of
us see with the combined um initiative
which is complementary
I see so I misunderstood that that the
empowerment centerpiece is actually our
own office of affirmative action like
I'm sorry I missed the combination
that's why I was wondering why we were
giving them more money than they were
asking for it but now I get it
anticipates a negotiation between what
Ron's trying to do during
in maximize the
impact of it and
again the rehab of that building
I think we have reasonable numbers for
it but I'm
amazed construction projects and uh
100 sure
so that was that was um to me with 8755
and um the other one that I have is it's
just a small amount
um the oh I'm sorry
was 50 000 for the uh doing Market
do we so before you proceed to that
because we have a great Foundation what
is the number is the difference between
the Thousand the four almost
do they have a number
uh I'm sorry
Foundation is actually asking for 610.
what we've got from the mayor's office
is a combination of the affirmative
action
West which
were 870
plus the six uh is how we get this
number of one million
75.
since we on this idea we'll look at the
discussion
so we're discussing uh
support for the empowerment sensor 875.5
and the three Foundation 610
Mr Williams I'm in support
please yeah I'm in support of both as
well and I think that HP noted that you
know having the collab you know and time
we have collaboration between two
different entities we get to Leverage
The expertise your expertise and
capacity to go so I appreciate the
problem I guess you make that that's
important so I support both
I just you know just a clarifying
question for um supporting both at the
level of the mayor you're not at the
full of long competing of both of them
at this amount right here
okay so it was my it was my
understanding that adding both of their
mouths together is
so no we're not giving them everything
they're asking
so let me go back up with our Euro
in support of 875 500 and 610. or are
you in support of the mayor's proposal
so I'm going to correct me if I'm wrong
your intent was trying to leverage both
the networking collaboratively I would
need clarification that they would be
able to meet their expenses with that
please many of the projects that are
we're going to be discussing were not
giving them the amount of money that
they asked for I'm okay with that if
that recommendation came from the staff
and the mayor I'm assuming that she
needs to produce that word but I'm
thinking that they probably determined
that the projects could be completed
with the amount of money that they're
recommending so I'm is called
the sport but again
proposal for a little over a million
dollars also looking at the housing
component of rehabbing housing so
for doing some of the training that
we're creating job opportunities
baritos the uh
two the memory shares
two million uh 250
000 one with the million 250
000 from the land bank so again it's the
try and bring all the groups together
and still have an end product that gives
us the most impact
that those two numbers for City housing
the land bank and
needs foreclosure to starting
first part of September be able to rehab
those get them back in the tax rolls and
also generate some Revenue through those
sales to be able to offset some of the
expenses that we're going to have just
going forward with prior commitments for
contractual obligations talks about
bargains
McCarthy would you mind give me a
breakdown on your proposal in terms of
the involvement Center
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so which one are you looking for a
breakdown for the following Center and
also the you know you don't have a
breakdown Christian we divided up we
haven't had discussions with
us
yes we propose I think what we would the
full amount of the Empowerment Center to
make sure that it can be constructed and
then the remaining I think it's around
300 000 for some of the programming that
the dirty foundation will provide hey
it's 7500 foreign
correct okay thank you yeah
if the projects they weren't able to
meet the project which I think the city
staff has on kind of done some
investigation make sure that's still
viable option that you know do you
saying that they would like to revisit
that
yeah please go ahead please I'm trying
to write that kind of a Christian kind
of just uh see I already outlined on it
so it seems like they've already done
this potential amount of work I didn't
mean any offense
Patrick with that understanding that
question
so are we in support of moving this
Tower 875 500
and let me see what the real number is
here 75
.
it's it's one it's 1 million 75
000. he wants the difference he sprayed
him down between the two hundred thousand
sorry
so do we have support for the million 75
500 working out in 875 500 for the
Empowerment Center and 200 000 for the
jury Foundation
go ahead please I will support it if we
are continuing to support the golf
course and the Central Park Pool so I
think it's going to be kind of difficult
being if we're really going to do them
one at a time or you know what I'm
saying
so I either want to
do what Miss Porterfield was I thought
suggesting at the beginning which is
let's pull money into the college
um and then we're going to do that yeah
I just want to make sure when we get to
the end of this page that I still have
the money from the golf course
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I don't think we can achieve 100 here
tonight for business but we'll try as
much as we can follow him
for taking them out of order yeah see
what I'm saying like we probably won't
get them all done tonight maybe we won't
maybe we will talk to the golf course
I think we say that now until we get to
another no we're not gonna perform you
said that period we already agree
understood
and this is why I put more money and
then we could revisit it
go ahead please
um so so are we fine with the
Empowerment Center and during that that
particular one
is there any objection to this funding
is as the mayor's proposal the numbers
it's like oh so this item takes two
items will be funded
um can I just had one more smile on the
Green Market for fifty thousand
um I know I know that they changed um
because it was a long period of time
between when they submit their
application and when we are making these
decisions I can say that they scored
well on by the community and I can also
say they're doing a great job in the
community and I we all got the email
that said they wanted to change it to
their food box program which I
understand is going extremely well and
they're taking they're actually
delivering food it wasn't originally the
trolley where they were asking people to
come down and that wasn't working out as
well as they had talked and so now they
change it with their
sorry they're delivering food yeah
well that that rating sheet was about
the trolley and now we're talking about
food boxes so you can't look at the
rating sheet okay but but just one
clarify okay so um I'm still support you
know I actually did reach out because
when I saw the change and um they said
they still needed the same amount and I
guess yeah I can speak to this as well
but again me and Mark is doing a great
job we just talked a couple weeks ago
how we're expanding something in
downtown because of how well attended
Etc it is so
um something that not only supports
individuals in the city it also brings
people here so the Green Market is doing
a great job and I I would certainly
support the 50 000 towards that
oh please go ahead um so again in
the case the Green Market is not broken
up in the mayor's proposal it is part of
a larger ask
um for food security and obviously I
think if we were to look at major issues
in the city
I think housing and food security are
two that are you know right up there in
terms of some of the issues facing Us in
terms of the poverty in the city
um so I'm not sure if 50 000 is what
um the
for the Green Market is what is being
posed in this figure by the mayor so
it's what I'm proposing I'm that's what
I'm saying that's what I'm I'm
fully that's what I'm saying okay I
would like to see then how that breaks
into breaks down into this um sccc
sikkum Schenectady Foundation mask
uh Mr Parliament again yeah so we're
either going to consider the
applications or not and if we're not I'm
fine with that that opens it up for
everyone and otherwise the application
is what the application is and I think
if we're going to go that route and say
well we have all these reviews then
basically the reviews are meaningless
the applications are meetings because
we've now changed the entire process
so
that being said also I do know the
county is addressing trying to address
a food insecurity issues I think it
would be
inherent upon us to see what they're
going to do with money for food and
security
and look at that
so I would be opposed to this fifty
thousand dollars for the green money
um so the new space that's being created
to Green Space downtown isn't
specifically for the Green Market
um so again it's going to be the part
but you said they're expanding because
the Green Space
and again the application was for the trolley
um not for the program delivering food
boxes which again is absolutely
essential there's a lot of programs in
the city that are currently doing that
and it's something that we definitely
need to bring the food out to the
residents that can't get out but because
of the applications for the trolley then
I'm not in favor of that specifically I
wasn't asked patient participant the
space the council has acted on across
from City Hall is really to utilize the
grant the SIC gap for AARP of which the
Green Market would be one beneficiary of
that space that would not be exclusive
foreign
to consider for each application let's
say I think it's up to the council
just to clarify I think that the
original application was about the CDTA
trawling program yes so what that did
was bring people from neighborhoods to
the Green Market it wasn't successful
and so they didn't continue with the
project they just didn't get the
ridership that they
hoped for
it's a great idea I thought but it
didn't it wasn't utilized so
emails from Ms Macaro I think last week
asking whether we could change their
proposal from that program
instead they would like to use the money
for the food box program the food box
program doesn't bring people to the
Green Market it brings the food to the
people and so it doesn't it doesn't
impact the space the new space
that the Green Market will be able to
use it's it's all about delivery of
foods in much the same way that you know
we have other the sick of mobile van
which is another part of the larger
mayor's proposal brings food to to
people I think what it's allowing is for
people to be able to use their SNAP
benefits
right and the EBT cards
I I think that's what it is but we don't
have a full proposal for it because we
didn't get an application for just the
email right
yeah I I think what they're trying to do
here is because the Box the food box
program is working um
you know a great success to free market
and I'm trying to meet meet the needs of
the people who are pretty much unable to
come to the market to access these stuff
here I think it was serving 20 people
that's part of you
I think I read in the inbox no no I'm
sorry I saw in something that we got it
said 20 people thank you
and him so far
well I think I'm sorry
Mrs Carl to expand on that and um we
always talk about food and security and
this is one of those yeah
is one of those things that's serving
that and we're not talking about a
million dollars
and we're talking about a program that
does a lot of good work so I'm still so
if even I understand
um and let's just keep in mind that
things have changed in the eight months
that it's taken us to look at these
applications so
um I still think that we should consider
um the changes and be able to support
people still getting food even if it was
not in the way that we that it was
originally intended that they thought
would make it sense to get food because
that just wasn't working for people to
come down to the gray market so
um I understand the changes but that
still you know my position in terms of
um addressing food insecurity to a
demographic that you know just doesn't
make it to the Green Market for any
number of reasons
so far yeah I just want to say I'm you
know so for supporting anything that's
going to increase access I think it's an equitable program which I think
that we kind of pay lip service to ads
um you know often but I think that this
is the demonstration of that like when
people can't get there you know what I
mean you're bringing food to them so I
think that's a great thing that's all
of course
it's 20 deliveries each Sunday yeah it
is obviously going it might be in the
same 20 people
but it is 20 deliveries each Sunday that
they use that money for but it is only
20 to listen and people have to eat each
a week though
oh please and again the county is going
to be looking at this so it it might be
smart for us to hold off on this until
we figure out what they're going to be
spending their money so we're not
duplicating Services because we have an
awful lot of duplicate services in the
city and while it's great that there's
plenty of help it's money probably not
being most efficiently spent and if we
really wanted to help the most amount of
people we should be efficient without
with our resources and I think it would
be wise for us to look at what the
problem is
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does it come out of the mayor's
allocation 1 million yeah somebody taken
out against that okay yes so these
programs would be short fifty thousand
dollars for
you know Sikkim for the lunch programs
and different things
right put these collectively sure uh you
can get the opportunity to meet the new
president at the Clarkson
a couple weeks ago
some discussions that haven't come
together anticipated coming together in
the next couple weeks but doing a
Capstone project in terms of data
collection
on the issue of food insecurity the
availability of food within the
community so that you're looking to take
some of their grad students put them
there so we can go out into
the community as a whole look at some of
these neighborhood stores look at the
ability of vendors of the Green Market
you know there's still
scenarios you can put in the market in
downtown how do we
leverage the money that we're going to
spend and at the same time address
the most number of people to provide
food that people need in again this
period of
stress that's happening in post covet
and some of the inflationary Impressions
that are on households in terms of just
getting their basic needs
allocation
it's
I thought I don't know if we
started if we've worked the deal with
the three scenarios but to try and get
them to work together and also do it in
a complimentary fashion with uh
the department of social services and
some of the individuals that they're
working with
um you know to the most recent
discussions but
we're asking for a
breakdown of the million dollars
allocated to the food security
foreign
because we have a lot of duplicative
services in the city where a lot of
people do the same things and I don't
really share services and the idea let's
get them to come out together connecting
foundations investing a lot of money in
this anyway and they're trying to pull a
collaborative effort to kind of address
boosts its security and promote a more
strategic approach so argument was all
these groups are already working
together to get the money get the group
and then tell the group come up with
strategic plan to address them along
do things better
go ahead so basically
um second is because the Schenectady
Foundation has for six hundred thousand
dollars
um because they're kind of formed on the
council
um
yes
um so I guess
I just need to clarifying because I took
it literally that I I did where I think
for those four
applications and looked at what they
each were asking for and you know now it
sounds like what you're saying is
instead would basically give a million
dollars to I don't know the Schenectady
Foundation to say hey here's a million
dollars to continue convening this
Council
um that is going to try to look at how
they can bring the various nonprofits in
town
Beyond sccc and sikkum and the
Schenectady Foundation remarket
um
there's so many others that are
providing food
so is that what you're saying that it
was more I kind of when I was like when
I got the when I got this memo over the
weekend I was kind of thinking oh it's
like a fund to address food security
issues in general
um Beyond these four applications to go
back to the applications you know
because collaboratively what does that
look like so by those times people about
contract we that would have to obviously
be decided would it be just these four
applicants the Schenectady Foundation is
unless the city market is another
concern for home group
or that part of the boarding
is that an agency yeah it wasn't part of
this million dollars oh
and I asked the council before we move
some money around for fee to Albany just
to provide some internal assistance for
right and people who are identified as
uh
marginal in terms of their access to
food
in the police department's working on a
community volunteers yes CCC I think
it's been up in that too and I can add
too that the County's working on that
too so before the city does something we
should probably see what the County's
putting out there as well not
we're way over the million already yep
um and I heard the mayor say that you
know people are going to examine the
issue and there's going to be a Capstone
project and a study and I am inclined to
give money so people can eat today
so I think in in terms of the county and
if we're concerned that the county we
don't want to duplicate we simply say to
the county that we gave 50 000 to the
Green Market
so I again will support this so they're
already doing the work they have a
program that's running
um that's proven to be successful and so
again it's fifty thousand dollars and
maybe it's not a huge sum of money to us
but clearly to an organization that is
trying to make sure that people get fed
and they can do their programming it is
so I um I come back to the fact that um
that's why I didn't pull out those
larger ones because I knew I mean we
just didn't have enough money for that
right now and I'm not sure it's a
further discussion but they're asking
for 600 670 000 they're asking for fifty
thousand so again I support the fifty
thousand
Mr can you just explain again you had
mentioned earlier about the application
not being what it was and would open up
for other folks that might have sent in
an application requesting something but
didn't get a favor
what did you say earlier I'm saying can
you repeat that
um I think Mr moonbaron was just asking
how we address changes in applications
so all I was saying is that you know my
review like if you're things are going
to change it's been a long time you know
these applications were submitted in
December
um but we would you know if other people
come forward and request the same thing
I would just think we would need to
equally evaluate those decisions I'm up
for that so that's all I was saying
right we may be up for it but where's
the funding coming from no right we're
not talking about different money we're
talking about different youths
right
so go ahead again if you want to stay
yeah I just think that the magnitude of
what Signum does for example 200 people
I think she's gonna probably there's
other things that are probably going to
be but I think the magnitude of what
happens
at a sitcom
which is asking for 600 and yeah
uh sorry 670 344 which is only 34 by the
way
the of the project that they are trying
to fund that amount of money was only 34
of the total project cost so they're
providing the rest of the 60s six
percent of it themselves from other
funding sources I mean when you think
about the number of people that they're
serving on a day by day basis I'm just
saying I'm weighing that against I'm not
saying this is a bad program at all
um saying you weighing now the magnitude
of that you're weighing the food pantry
at sccc
which is serving you know all those
folks every day
um you know
I just think we have to look big picture
on this and it seems like that's what
the development staff and the other
staff that were involved in the
conversations around these proposals
um sounds to me like that's what you're
suggesting is to look a big picture I
mean I think we just there was a lot of
you know food related applications and
we wanted things especially with the
mayor and other staff a way to bring
them together so that you know things
weren't you know operating independently
but that conversation was much better so
that was the the idea behind it yes
go ahead please so I think this is one
of those instances where the smaller
people don't get get as much
consideration just because they don't
have the capacity so as you said at
second hand this is only 34 that means
they have a larger thing and it's all
that funding in place I'm not really
sure questions to be asked
um so and I think as I understood it
those are questions that are going to be
asked so um
again I don't I you know it's I
understand but I think we're just like
shoving them in with that and again the
program that's already running Sikkim is
a very large program SCC is asking for a
skin Foundation that is asking for a lot
and they're like doing a whole
coordination process and how long is
that going to take so again I'm I'm in
favor of funding a program that's
actually feeding people
this Sunday
and the thought Sunday after that and
last Sunday
oh no I was just not anything and bring
it around and using again that that lens
of Equitable outpatient
location smaller
followers issues
yeah this isn't about scale at all it's
about duplication resources for me and
you know if we're not looking at this
big picture then we're not really
addressing or trying to solve a problem
in the appropriate way we're just
showing some money here and there and
return our investment and the
impact on people's lives will be
blunted rather than to the full extent
of what it can be and I think that's why
it's important that we look at this not
just oh we're going to feed somebody
this Sunday it's the case anyway and so you know we
need to look at this much bigger picture
than what we're currently doing
so are we looking to to allocate fifty
thousand dollars from the million
dollars to the Green Market and then
the balance we are located to the other
agencies
is
may you have them listed here as well
I'd still like to have a conversation
with
the Green Market
with
secular the
package with Clarkson the Capstone
project would take probably 90 days
that they've done before
again it's the coordinated effort
these applications have sat here for a
little while
sorry to you know it's
gonna let the council it's going to have
the final decision on this but it's how
do we get the most bang for the buck and
some of this is not a simple
straightforward manner Castaic have
ongoing conversations
point out there's a number of groups
that provide these services
some people are more aware of this
availability than others so I think some
people that are
doing well in terms of engaging with the
groups other people are not and how do
we do an education effort
getting leverage the money that's going
out into the community
provide the biggest impact that the
people who need it the most
so let me just get back up to this
Quarterfield so miss Quarterfield are
you looking so
allocate fifty thousand dollars from
this million dollars and then the
balance
both towards the other agencies yes I am
you know you were leading towards I am
and and see Mr colonies point then we
can just also talk to the county about
um about what they're doing and how that
we can work together on that and you
know um in the Merit so that you know
it's going to be like another 90 days
night again that it's been in this one
so
um I don't I just think that we could
like against a smaller agency and we're
talking about equity and trying to
um get them to be able to do what they
do while these other conversations are
taking place when maybe they can still
include them in that as well because
they're asking for a much lesser amount
than these larger agencies I don't think
that giving the meat market fifty
thousand dollars excludes in some of
those conversations but I do believe it
allows them to continue to do the work
that they're doing
currently and making sure that um people
are getting amazing they should have
asked for a lot more money but uh but
they didn't so I don't think it excludes
them from those conversations however I
think it gives them the ability to um to
continue to do the work that they're
doing which I think is pretty important
work in terms of feeding people making
sure they um you know we
um I'm down there every second Sunday so
I do see the the
we actually program
as it as it um as it's done where
they're packing the boxes and delivering
so it's not something to me that
somebody just told me was like I've seen
it happen
so again I do yes so that's a long
answer to your question yes I do say
that we allocate the 50 000 at this time
and the balance will go towards agencies
yeah so logically it just doesn't make
any sense you're asking us as a city
council to make sure that we're not
duplicating Resources with the county
yet we want to do the same with the
organizations we're looking at
again we learn about the most people
highest level we possibly can
and if we're duplicating resources we're
not doing this
and to take a little bit of time to
figure this out and get it right will
impact the most people in the most
people's lives to the greatest extent
oh I will go to uh
families that are being sent meals each
Sunday 20 and up that would only be for
a year under this 50 000 and are there
any administrative costs to that are
people putting money in for gas for
delivering this is that a volunteer
basis
um is and again is it something that can
be worked through sitcom or or even the
City Mission or something that that
these individuals are getting their meals each Sunday well it's not
meals it's fresh toast so it's different
than having meal delivery it could be
for beef there or you know whatever they
could spend their money on I mean
there's fresh beef or frozen beef or
things like that so it could be the real
and are there it's not already made meal
that they're having delivered though
well there aren't many ready-made meals
available there through uh Taj Mahal and
other places you know that that's not
part of the food last program so it's
just fresh produce only it's fast food
foreign
so again are there any
that's just to deliver
you know help me understand a little bit
better about how those spend this fifty
thousand dollars
well I don't have that breakdown for you
I'm certainly connected
yeah I mean certainly before we go to
contract we would have to understand the
scope of services and the amounts that
are really bad for sure
are you in support of
the 50 000 remarket on the balance go
towards the other Organization no no
okay Miss tutorial are you in support of
what is on the table no beside them
I just think that again I have to
expect
the staff's vision for how they picked
these four applications out of the
number of applications that we got
food related kinds of things
so I think I need a little more
information on this particular one I
don't think that we want to be getting
another application
um so I know that that was part of the
email that we received last week was
should they be you know submitting a new
application I I guess I would say no
because we certainly have enough uh you
know in the how many million was it that
we got requested something like 70
million or 80 million dollars that we
were asked for and we don't have that
money so we want to reopen applications
but I just it sounds like the staff is
proposing a million dollars on all of
this to look at Food security
and it may be that the Green Market gets
a piece of that and it may not be I
think right now the Green Market is a
piece of that I don't know if it's for
50 or not again I think even to your
logic sccc is only asking for a hundred
and something thousand dollars a hundred
thousand
it's like 105 000 which is also not a
lot of money and I know that they're
directly serving you know a number of us
that that was a
King forth from the faculty it's
volunteers with faculty and students
student
um they you know it's it's a big
operation now because those students
need food
um and I can vouch for that based on my
experience working there
um so I think I'd rather either say
dollars
issue
okay bring people together to try to
work together and collaborate around
this issue
the party are you in support of the 50
000 degree market and the balance
towards the other agencies
yes I am and I think we just have to
like we're talking about feeding people
and we're talking about you know on one
hand we're saying that food insecurity
we understand that it is an issue in the
community
um and we know that
in the grand scheme of things
it's a win-win right because fifty
thousand dollars isn't you know a large
percentage of the money required
somebody having some food is a really
large percentage of their livelihood so
let's not
get so over analytical that we're not
taking a a quick one where we can get
one and I don't think that this
moving this fifty thousand dollars right
now in anyone she performed you know uh
prevents us from doing
um you know the other work talked about
as far as uh collaborating and I think
that that's a great thing but I guess
and absolutely 110 percent in favor of
if it's 50 000 degree Market
Mr Williams I have no issue where
they're potentially taking out fifty
thousand dollars and getting into the
room
at the balance wheel towards the other
agency which is
uh just in terms of the council's
overall game plan here even if you agree
on all these things tonight
it's not going to happen tomorrow
formally act on it
put a contract in place with these can
take several weeks
and so we made this recommendation for a
million dollars there I don't see where
I understand your strong feelings to
support the Green Market I like the
Green Market
it's a good deal I don't know if they
should get 48
000 or 15
000 uh but
what I've submitted is the timing the
reality is before we can do anything
let's have some discussions with the
other partners to see what we can
Implement with again everybody
participating the Green Market May today
say they don't need fifty thousand maybe
they need more maybe they need less but
so that it complements some of the other
activities that are out there
can come to an agreement that we can all
support
it's like
six weeks eight weeks by the time the
council approves it to get a contract in
place and sign on the other side get it
back from my signature
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so I'm just seeing clarification and
just I I apologize if it's redundant you
are all asking us to wait so you can
gather more information
your
consensus here seems to be we're in
agreement of the million dollar level
what I'm saying is let's have some
discussion on the green markets
component out of that whether it's 50
000 whether it's more or less but it
actually
is that we're trying to achieve
so if I had I mean a degree Market as
being a good partnering the city is
Schenectady so I don't have an objection
allocating fifty thousand dollars to the
free market and then 950 000 so the
additional agency and
foreign
discussion with these agencies you know
we can partner together
to bring this service so that will keep
those connected
so I think we have a majority on this entire
One Million Dollar application
for priority you break we're going to
break out the Green Market and then and
patent the rest as well
is that what you're suggestions just
when you say break it out so they
wouldn't even be considered with anyone
else to share in the 900
that's what they asked for So my answer
to that question is given them with the
rest for
so we want them to collaborate with
everyone else because there might be
more for them or maybe they ask for 50
because that was the original Grant
maybe it's only Thursday but if I leave
thousand but by leaving them in with
that million they can work together with
the other agencies to maybe provide them
longer
I don't know
yes Patrick well just and Mr Williams
sort of
for example concern for the hungry which
is also not part of this million dollars
also I believe does a similar service
and they've been well established in
this community for many years but I
think that's pretty I'm pretty sure that
they deliver food to the people who need
the food
right so again now we're I know concern
for the hungry is not one of these
part of this million dollars but they're
doing the same service
um
I think again we don't have all the
information about the green markets
program
um
I have to go back and look location
again
hungry
but I think they've been in this
community for
decades
uh doing the search for the hungry is
asking for money for transportation oh
that's right to bring the people to the
food campus yes that's right
they're not delivering the food to the
people that bring the people to the food
panels correct
just saying it's like apples are more
environment
still where I began okay
so I think we have a majority in terms
of allocating fifty thousand dollars to
degree markets and 950 000 so the other
agencies
that may have mention that until people
engaged to stop and engage is able to
see you to work together about how they
could provide and service is that kind
of a full setup
I was looking to do it collectively
under the million dollars now again
I assume the council is going to pass a
resolution for fifty thousand dollars
for the Green Market
and nine hundred and fifty thousand
dollars for the other organizations
yes
that's what I think is leading so
well okay I I mean I think we should be
examining what the other food
organizations are maybe again because
sitcom is so large and does work
collaboratively with so many other
partners in the city that they probably
have in the past
six hundred thousand dollars to the
Schenectady Foundation to bring people
to a table is a lot of money again they
do great work and I know this is one of
their major thrusts in their funding
this year but
okay I'm I'm in favor of 950 000
generally to the support of insecurity
go ahead thank you for the purpose of
clarity
um
obviously there are a host of projects
that the city council is considering and
then within each project there may be
different players
in drafting legislation at a future
point in time there's I see really two
pieces to this there's the allocation of
funds for a particular project and then
within that project
authorizing a contract with particular
entities which is obviously easy with
Green Market right fifty thousand
dollars presumably with the 950 000 for
the remainder of that project it'd be
more difficult obviously to determine
who gets what and I understand obviously
the mayor said part of this is obviously
speaking to the different entities to
figure out who's going to do what and
you know better determine how the
funding should be broken out
but to be mindful of allocating funds
and then also authorizing a contract
with a particular entity
I think that's the intent this will make
them
authorizing the fund and authorizing the allocation for a
particular project and then secondary
authorizing the contract with a
particular entity in the same resolution
yes right yes thank you go ahead just as
a point of clarification because the
contract will have to come back to us
anyway for the fifty thousand dollars
for the fifty thousand no not
necessarily if you're saying if you're
already saying
yeah we're going to give fifty thousand
dollars to the Green Market then you
would authorize you allocate fifty
thousand dollars in armpit funds to the
Green Market and authorize the mayor for
his designee to enter into an agreement
with the Green Market
for let's say 950 000 and part of that
is you know
figuring out how that's going to be
broken out right
because we're good about assets
sorry not as Is Us
a great majority of the council
support field
I'll just go I've taken up a lot of time
you have
oh something like committee
foreign
that's a very important project but
that was in within the mayor's
recommendations as well
and I think that it's really important
that we are being Equitable in our
application funds
project that definitely checks all of
those boxes and is extremely important
and I like to see them funded and be fun
to have their full requests for
application
open up a question on this item
go ahead please let's just contingent me
after that
pay my car too
um
their application has a number of
funding sources coming together so we're
looking to make sure everything is in
place so that the fact it can move ahead
the most recently under the council
approved pins to update those actual
project costs
yes as part of what the council recently
approved for the CBG funding they had a
tap coming in to do the feasibility work
and Architectural drugs to get
um just more updated cost estimates for
the work so it's really just contingent
on them getting that work done and then
also just seeing what other funding will
be leveraged for the project so we
wouldn't start spending this money on
the project until we knew we had enough
to complete it
so that's that's what the community is
so if I understand correctly that's
pretty much a contingency that we would
put with anyone right because yeah we
would want to make sure we complete a
project it's not just there's no special
language going into uh
the miracle and Craig there's other
potential sources that they
supposedly lined up for their convention
on each other we don't want to give a
million dollars for
a five million dollar project where it's
four million dollars short the building
still can't be used so that it's making
sure partners or table and all the money
is there based on what the council just
approved on these updated costs and
scope of work that is being prepared now
so so just so clarity
to your point there so like for example
we're talking earlier about
um I think it was second and they had
some other funding they were applying
for 600 000 or something and he was
saying that they had some other funding
that was lined up
um
to support their project as well so
right so this contingency would be the
same as that right that's what we're
saying
trying to serve a thousand families and
they say they've already got money to do
600 at least we're going to do the Gap
financing for
foreign
it's a little bit different for
services so if again we're trying to
serve a thousand families we only have
money for 950.
50 May
come up short
doing a building project we want to have
money to do the entire building we don't
want to get it all there we don't have
enough money for the roof so it all
leaks in and
not able to get a certificate of
occupancy
be able to open and provide the service
so there's a little bit of difference
where
based on the nature of the project in
the the product is what is the service
and one's an actual building right it's
like
if you were buying a car here we're not
going to buy a car where we get
everything except for tires
well again and so just so for for Mr
Farley
um they actually asked for 1.5 million
um the total cost of their project is 1
5
three so they're asking for 98.57 of
their project
as opposed to the sick and was asking
for um
so so
it was a huge difference well in terms
of in terms of what we're being asked to
do my question is really though
um based on what the mayor said so in
other words
it's a million I'm sorry we're we're
thinking about giving to Miracle on
Craig Street a million dollars I think
it was
a million
um but it sounds like we know that the
cost estimate is going to be updated
okay I know what I'm saying is so our
family Foundation Foundation Brown
Etc are all also coming to the table
with perhaps a million dollars well
that's where some will bring that one
thing please commit to a million dollars
um what we're saying is we're using
they're going to continue use that
million dollars to be able to say to
other funders such as even maybe
Metroplex or a private Foundation we
can dollars the project you know so will
you help us now to help leverage to to
get it fully funded okay have you had
those conversations yeah that they they
have already been working with the other
foundations and the other foundations
are also supportive which everyone
really just wants to see the updated
scope that cost estimate before they
make a decision on the funding right
but not us
ually
a million dollars towards the overall
again I hear that but what I'm saying is
it sounds like the other partners
haven't come to the table yet because
they're waiting for the scope of the
project well we're not also spending
we're also leading through the scene
we're just putting in a bank account
okay
we're putting the million dollars aside
yes yeah and we're not spending anything
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for many other millions they need so I
so Mr clearly I'm not I'm not proposing
that um we funded my million dollars I'm
the person that we fund them
yeah because and one way to make sure
that um that they'd have the money to do
the project is if we getting money so
that's really moment to make sure that's
what I'm supposed to be done okay
absolutely
any other question on this item in
regards to the proposed 1.5 million
dollars one day or are the mayor's
proposed funding of a million dollars
let us go back to you so if you're
talking about I am sorry I support the
1.5 million dollars
um I think that and I I think they've been working on this
project for about seven years
and I'd either like to wait and see what
the cost is going to be I don't want to
support them I mean I'm happy to do the
million dollars but I think we have a
lot more projects here that are also not
being fully funded and this is a project
that has not been able to make itself
happen for seven years with a great deal
of community support I might add
volunteerism
Etc so I
or something
go ahead please I have so we have to be
again we're talking about being
equitable
Miracle on Craig street is a Grassroots
organization with a very specific role
in mind who have been
selective because they also didn't just
weigh getting money into the building
they really for years were soliciting
Community feedback and making sure that
they operated with Integrity in the
process so guitar so I agree what you're
saying that it has been a lengthy amount
of time my point would be it was an
intentional and it's important that it's
anything about time because nothing like
that has happened so in Schenectady in
the way that they're trying to do it so
I don't think that we could really use
the same Matrix that we might use for
other places this is this is also
um one of the um
this would be the only
um
Community Center
in Hamilton Hill after the boys and
girls club with within respect to the
Arsenal which is another another Niche a
center bomb but after the boys and girls
club knew our community know the need
for American Credit Suite just increased
so that's why I'm saying that we need to
be Equitable and not just pay lip
service and Equity doesn't mean everyone
getting equal things it means people
getting what they need so careers
demonstrating the state
so it really is so in referencing what
the department of development campus
recommendation receiving a favorable
score of looking at the recommendation
that came into the advisory panel and
ranked within the middle of those list
of applications building on top of what
Mr Farley already highlighted
can pause the fact that I haven't had
the same local experience as other
council members with this project but
for me personally I am I want to step
with Mr Farley and I'm a funding them
I must always do it again
in terms of resources we are repeating
resources there is the Hamilton Hill
Arts Center and granted they have a
special Niche there's the boys and girls
club which is right across the bridge
that's the I think the school is looking
to put some stuff in there from
Rumblings I'm here
be a better use of resources in my
opinion or some sort of shuttle service
to make sure the kids get to where they
need to to get what they need in a safe
Manner and if we're going to talk about
equity
you want to talk about Equity all right
we'll talk about the north side
one of our most diverse neighborhoods in
the community and there's not anything
here for them
so
um
I certainly
think there's stuff that's needed but
when we look at how our resources are
used I think we have to be efficient and
effective because again we want to reach
many and impact as many people as we
possibly can
but you're voting no on the mayor's
proposal yes or I I don't oh okay
let's tutorial
um
because we can't get to all so we'll get
to as much as we can
so obviously keeping with the
mayor and the department of
development's proposal and contingent on
other funding
um
I'm considering that prior to what I'm
about to say as far as the program
itself and when they were in a few
months ago and putting
your child through a lot for money for
um
administrative costs
and again seven years into the project
and I admire what they're doing and then
again we past Boys and Girls Club and
we're talking about them making a safe
environment for everyone and a shuttle
service I think is a great idea I didn't
think of it so you just said that making
sure that all the programs that they're
running over there
and as far as the extra five hundred
thousand dollars now we we've already
said as Miss Patrick said I want to make
sure that 500 that money is there for
the two programs we already approved
that we talked of earlier so where's
this extra five hundred thousand dollars
coming from so now all of a sudden we're
bringing to the table some extra five
hundred thousand dollars that may have
to come out of the pool where's it
all right so so I am I am
um supporting the the mayor's Proposal
with the contingencies there and again
we have to get a contract and all
different kinds of information and
things and they may not be able to bring
them the rest of the amount to the table
um but I am not supporting 1.5 million
so you are supporting them yeah
it's like a contingency and have one one
million 250 000.
um because I know that they need a
little extra money so
um and I understand all the points that
are being uh around the table so
that would be my suggestion that I would
put forward can you repeat that for me
please but instead of 1.5 it's 1 million
250 000.
there's a hand up over here
so I think that we have to
be really careful about and and think
about why this money is entering our
city
um this is money that is tied to the
uh uh pandemic which all for all
accounts we know that certain
communities marginalized communities
such as the community that miracle and
country is operating in but
impacted far greater
than other communities
so I think that we are obligated to take
into those considerations when we talk
about where we need to allocate funding
if we're trying to be Equitable then the
work is already done for us and that's
how we know who has been impacted
negatively most and that project is in
the center of that community and that is
something I think that we all should be
really careful about as we're making our
decisions based around this
Hill
which are directly the communities
you're seeking it is and and the amount
of people in that neighborhood who fall
into what you just described
I would argue is larger than the
community you're talking about so I have
no problem reaching those people who are
impacted but let's be clear
that this neighborhood of the north side
I mean
they're directly the target from you're
talking about so I just just want to
push back slightly on that I get what
you're saying and uh but you know we got
to realize what we got the neighborhoods
right Mr motivation I just wanted to
share something please from a
development perspective and thinking
about the Frank Street Corridor and just
the fact that this is a vacant huge
parcel that is on that Corridor that now
is on the historic register that
ultimately we this city is going to be
responsible for finding a productive use
of this bill
um so I just I'm putting that out there
as you know it's not going to go away we
need to figure out some sort of solution
for this building that's a massive
undertaking on a major Corridor that
we're investing a lot of funding into
streetscape improvements through the
pregnant connection and all of those
things
um so just something else to keep in
mind in terms of like how do we find a
productive use for the site and then who
ultimately is benefiting from that and
you know engaged in that process
go ahead please
um so one thing I don't want us to do is
start hitting one neighborhood against
another you know it's one city we have
people that live all over and we the
collective we serve them all so I want
us to start walking down that road
um and this is a question for the
Department of development or is there an
application that we where we did not
entertain from the north side in terms
of what was similarly talking about here
I do not stand okay with all a specific
applications from the nurse said I think
I know some of the distressed property
stuff that we discussed would would
benefit you know all areas of the city
but I don't recall a specific
application that we're not funding
coming from the north side so because I
just want to make sure that that you
know it's clear because it could be
misconstrued that we're talking about
funding uh a center over here and not
funding one away so I just want to make
sure that we're clear that that's not
what's what we're really talking about
here and again I don't want us to um
start pitting one neighborhood against
the other saying there's more need here
or more need there and we are talking
about a specific project that there is
not a similar project so
just need to make sure that's very clear
go ahead so I just want to actually
agree with Mr Paul I mean um that there
are
marginalized people who were greatly
impacted by uh covet in the north side
so I want to say I want to agree with
that and again I don't want
to think about what you're saying is
that we're not I'm not saying
fund
uh miracle and crack stream and not look
at any applications and these that's the
same consideration I will be making if
there was a similar application for
Community Center to the north side being
that there isn't I think
um
pretty easy for me to get to a place
that says
people greatestly emotionally impacted
and a unique uh application in it where
there's not we don't have to worry about
that duplication of services because
it's not talking about because this
doesn't even approach that criteria
that's where we're at and again talking
about people are most impacted those are
people who should get the most resources
that's what Equity is called that's how
you actually time
and to all the points that were just
made that's why and that was my only
reservation with fully allocating all
the money you want
because it does not take into
consideration the application that we
have not received so to your point
that's why I think it's important for us
to I don't know if it's not moving on
the clock
and always have good work to do so I'm
not trying to rush us along but did we
hit every area of fast in the city of
Schenectady with our first phase and if
not we need to ask ourselves how
comfortable are we fully assigning all
this money here to the mayor's or to the
cities projects and what is our
expectation to make sure that other
facets that weren't taken into
consideration
are
so in terms of this sensor I do support
having an American Factory until we have
the center it's going to complement what
is already around the super Boys and
Girls Clubs and the school and things
like that it is vital to us to lend
support
and to work with other agency as they
really have to be building and the board
and the membership of people in my
community to service
that neighborhood and beyond that so I
think it's vital that we provide the
funding necessary I know for a fact that
they are working with other agencies I
know for fact that they are discussion
with the county to help with some
fundings and I'm pretty sure that is
going to be put into place funding will
be available
to make this happen for this project
I am I am more leaning towards a sport
of field 1.25 million
so I'm not sure if
the party and
Mr William is
go ahead I think um
I begrudgingly
okay uh
agree to that
um but it's under protest I did not
remember
thank you
for one million
but where does the extra 250 000 come
from
well that's also said at some point
we'll we will have the things
yes the finance department will have to
come back to us
meeting to kind of work out the numbers
I think we have four
members who are in favor of 1.250
million dollars being allocated so the
miracle of Craig three
do I have that correct okay
this item will move forward with an
allocation of
1.250 million
any other item that we need to discuss
from members
yes
I would like to push forth the
steakhouse for 172
000 73 dollars
the original request was that amount 272
73 and Maya's proposal is the same for
tomorrow
profession on this line
foreign
okay with this item what's being funded
here
it's unspecific specified
but it is an important organization but
I know the organizations
they did not have specifics yeah
it would be able to elaborate on this or
so you know I'm safe had a significant
hit during full good
and then serious significant Staffing
shortages
to meet the needs of the promises
organizations have been shut down for a
couple of times and hopeless if they get
some additional funding they can
increase the pay require the additional
set that they need
to ensure that they have
safe place
with sexually drives youth
we consider it a critical need in the
city that
is importantly forward
that's the Williams
so in keeping in kind with the
recommendation from the planning
department they received a favorable
score and then looking out and from its
advisory committee it was ranked third
out of week nine applications
I think looking at is a mission
statement it is
exceptional mission that we need to
continue back in ensure that there are
adequate resources to provide
to use our youth that are in very very
dire needs
thank you Mr Williams I absolutely agree
with you on the importance of this it
didn't receive over one group of
reviewers didn't even score it and it
scored like from
with not like middle to low yeah right
not at all
um but I I do agree with the mayors
Department of developments funding for
this absolutely free
any other question on this I think
so I'm feeling that we have a unanimous
agreement on the Titans powered with
funding the same house
173
zero seven and three dollars
sorry one service okay
because our 172073 thank you
oh yeah so uh I also I'd also like to uh
the seat Center Schenectady
I think that um talk about all of the
things pretty much of the seat Center I
think something that the seat Center
does a not so good job at is really uh
letting people know about all the great
work that they are doing because they're
a completely holistic approach to uh you
Services Nest everything from get checks
the boxes around
you know workplace Workforce Development
food insecurities Chase work on a number
of other things so hard in fact you know
that the council is is really familiar
with what the sea center does in the
city has partner didn't see
plenty times so I'd like to go forward
to see time
84 cents
okay
that's
um since this is not on the mayor's
proposal this year you might just give
us a different breathe
summary
place just for the sake of clarity on a
safe uh
I don't have the application
you know as you know the the seat Center
does a lot of social Enterprise training
Workforce Development youth field
program I think one of the things that
we did discuss with the mayor was
potentially engaging them in some of the
distressed property rehabs through the
workforce training component of that so
I do believe that is the mayor's one of
his you know goals as to is to integrate
them into the distressed property rehabs
go ahead please well let's see that that
would be a logical fit for this for seat
Center as well as
you know I mean how does it figuring
with the Durie foundation and the office
of affirmative actions will of course
development initiative because they work
so closely with SEED Center
of Mr Gardner's work yep um so I would
have to say that hopefully it didn't
come up at all maybe it would be part of
one of those two things
not just mentioned
more what we already previously
for reaction slash Victoria yeah
I'm just trying to find a place where
because it's not on our list so we have
to take away money from something else
it's not on the mayor's on this on this
proposal that we're talking about
tonight okay okay
we were looking for a project so that's
why I did that and I
that's that's the thinking around that
and I think that the seed Center has uh
proven that one thing that they do
really well is collaborate
um and within the city and so that's
what I'm learning that for okay
any other discussion in terms of funding
is
as requested
so I realized that it's not on the um
the mayor's list but
um I do think I know I'm I think we all
are very familiar with the program and
I'm you know
I would support some funding the program
it's continually shown the good work
that it does not only in the actual work
that it does but the work it does in
changing the lives of the young people
that they work with I have witnessed it
in terms of them coming to communities
and rehabbing the house on Prospect yeah
on Prospect Street so it's clear that
the work that they're doing so um
I understand you know but it's again we
were talking about
um about some of the smaller programs
that didn't quite make the list and that
is one of them so I I am um I'm
supportive of this program so would
there be discussion around how much we
certainly can but I am definitely
supportive of this uh of this particular
program
thank you
ah sorry I gotta put you guys
responsibility
so I I I know they had a highly
favorable
ratings
um even though they didn't make it onto
the funding here and as Miss Patrick
said perhaps um they thought it could
work in with someone else's funding but
getting that was another 300 and some
odd thousand if that's what the amount
comes to on top of that that's half of
the 250 000 so now we're golfer's gonna
be fine
I'm worried about a lot of things you
know again permanent fact that it
impacted our entire city okay
and those affected were were everyone
and we
and before everyone in this entire city
so youth are very important to me
absolutely so I'm in agreeance with what
they do and
um
I maybe propose depending on what they
need what they requested the money for
maybe a little lower allocation I I
don't know because we don't really know
what we have moving forward
as far as finding so I would be in agreeance but it's not
for the entire amount but can we talk
about in the modeling may want to put
yeah just to address that I know we are
adding numbers here and that's what I
mentioned earlier that we can get
through all of this so we'll have to
send back into the finance Community to
come to all the one that we're improving
and then possible comeback either the
next two week or a special city council
meeting a committee meeting and address
it but that's going to address the the
ads that we're doing here tonight
because I obviously support SEED Center
I think we all are in great seed centers
and very very valuable resource in our
town and
however that being says You must have
had some thinking around why you didn't
want to fund the seat Center and you
instead were funding Workforce
Development in these two other air and
in the rehab I'm sorry the housing rehab
um and the affirmative action slash
durrier and how that fits in with the
seed Center which is a perfect fit for
either of those two I think there is
potential for that collaboration to
happen and again I think that we did
discuss it as part of the distressed
property rehabs because we know they
look for a site every year that they
take their youth filled to their rehab
and I thought somebody's gonna that was
discussed that but
not they do one ounce
we're going to take the largest number
of properties
from foreclosures of what we're moving
down the path
I have to be able to have a game plan in
place to maximize
that property that we're going to take
in fix it up create home ownership
opportunities do things run gardeners
spearheading working at the banking
Community line up the numbers to make it
work and so not looking to exclude the
seat Center but one house
in this package
doesn't really reflect you know what
their potential is and it's how do you
get them
involved in a bigger picture in a
evolving role
and
they've done in the past looking to have
people step up and got to challenge them
and challenge other ones to come up
again we're working the Building Trades
to
Provide support for this and things that
just we've never done before in other
communities are not doing it
that's Patrick I want to go back to you
are you in support of the
uh aggressive funding I can't make that
decision right now about the scene
Center I'd rather see them wrapped into
the city of Schenectady bacon housing
rehab program I'd be very supportive of
that and or on them being a part of the
affirmative action startier education
project
because I also want to point out that
the other project that we're short
changing here is the capital region land
bank which I think we all would agree uh
has been doing an amazing job in terms
of taking distressed properties and
because well and I believe that they
also work with the seat Center sometimes
please help you with that project so in
fact I mean they asked for 1.5 million
we have it down to 1.25
um I mean again I mean that's we know
their track record we know what they
can't make an independent about the season
I
want to be careful that again we're not
hitting one project
because the seat Center isn't uh
is it it doesn't just build houses they
build lives there so you can say it's a youth program first and so that is is the things that we're
considering again and the population
that they serve are section three
workers people who are most uh mostly
impacted by covet so again that's where
I get to that place into the mayor's
point I think that the mayor has put
forth some real
um
strong uh proposals for
um how we can kind of Leverage the work
that the seat Center is doing so again I
reported one and not supporting another I'm just bringing forth the seat
Center at this time and I'll stop there
yes Mr Williams
give to it to the same Accord I think
and also speaking from having spent time
at the site or at their building and
then also joining
few of their members going to one of the
sun neighborhood beings is not
necessarily focusing on the one
household it is how many youth youthful
hands touch each of those pillars each
of those Hammers and nails and how
influential and transformative this work
is on their lives I've spoken with
someone specifically and Her Name
Escapes me but she quite plainly said
her life was changing and she might have
been someone that was previously written
off that is now a another taxpayer who
not only can take those crap skills and
investors in another site but also might
one day purchase on those properties so
I think looking at the compounding
effects of this this program is uh
beyond the shadow of contention so yes
I'm in favor
you are in here yes that the original uh
proposal submitted same thing for the
Safari system follow me you are sure yes
for the proposal
you said yes but you said to a lower
amounts
but again
wondering
you know it's like going to the grocery
store and adding it up at the end and
not having the money to spend no I
understand I respect that I fully
support the seat Center they are doing a
tremendous job to the youth the city of
Schenectady and I think we must support
them and use the world most we must
support them because for what they're
doing and the impact they are creating
in the city so I have no choice but to
support them for the full amount that
was requested of 343 000 82.84
please
propose 7.1 million for the remainders
of the parts project plus 500 000 first
diamonds Park plus a million for youth
programs in the city so there are five
fields in the city one at Belleview
Little League one at Schenectady the old
Schenectady Little League which is
Michigan Avenue one is JC Little League
there's the Babe Ruth field and there's
also the soccer field
to give a million dollars to those
organizations so that they can fix up
their fields
the organizations right now are thriving
particularly the Little League baseball
and the ideas for them to move towards
allowing every single kid in this city
to play for free
and they're very close to that but
there's a lot of Capital Improvements
that need to be made and
you know right now the Little League
Baseball has grown from basically
non-existent to 10 teams
um the soccer fields we know is well
utilized but we could create a complex
for the Youth
and allow them to play for free so 500
000 for steinman's park I think would be
well utilized to do the Capital
Improvements and that could be leveraged
with a grant from
Senator Steck I just I just assembly
number seven I'm sure if you would like
that and then it was 6.05 for the
remainder of the proposed Parks projects
from the 500 000 human generosity will
help us to direct in terms of you talk
about the baseball Little League now the
500 000 would be first diamonds are to
make the necessary improvements that are
needed so there's talk of trying to fix
up that wall which is historic him
putting the pathway around the lake kind
of plus some other improvements that are
needed a million dollars would go
towards the five youth organizations
um to be split according to their needs
to ensure that our youth can play sports
organized sports for free
I think I'm missing it is that wonderful
sir it's not animals
we're considering okay okay it's an
application one of the applications no
but we considered other stuff with an
application no we haven't no yeah
they had an application we need to
change their purpose so they did have an
application okay well that opens the
door
and this is for you the place organized
sports for free and really give them
top-notch facilities with what we have I
mean it would be great for our kids so
you're asking for five hundred thousand
dollars for an assignments form yes
foreign
plus the remainder of the parks projects
beyond the pool and Golf Course
there was not for these agencies the
only difference is that um
an application was adjusted for the
Green Market because of the programs so
this is an adjustment
I'm sorry I was thinking about your
class for 7.1 for carbs
6.05 to pay for the remainder of the
parks projects a million for five of our
new fact Fields throughout the city
between 500 000 for caffeine agreements
to stand
go ahead in the civilians so
considerable amount of projects that
Mr palomini is recommending if not
creating right now
unfortunately have not submitted
applications
however it lead me to this I was going
to recommend you Schenectady Little
League the Santee Blue Jays did submit
application for 350 000 dollars
if I can school so that although the
department of development gave it a big
favorable sport for similar reasons to
you highlighting the impactful Outreach
of that organization I was going to
recommend that that is something that we
consider
so perhaps what we could do is take that
application
has already been submitted and changed
the chain that John is suggesting
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well is it the same is this the same
agreement in terms of baseball I'm
talking about in terms of what Carl's
saying Mr Williams
legislation
Miss Porterfield I understood Mr Harmony
correctly it would not just include
Schenectady Little League it would
include a number of other organizations
both organizations are tied together
um has
there's the Babe Ruth field as well but
there's also a soccer field and maybe
basically just give them the opportunity
to let kids play for free and I think
that's a lot worth
so what was submitted was on Schenectady
New Little League slash Schenectady Blue
Jays are those two organizations you're
talking about two rows okay sir so two or seven two of seven I'm sorry oh
several okay so
um to your point I don't know that we
can add other people to someone else's
application
because it was only those two others
umbrella is there an umbrella
organization but you know you want to do
the 350
000 and uh the 6.05 for the remainder of
the projects that are listed yeah I will
compromise
right
protein food some tennis pool repairs
well you know I was gonna go for all the
Park prices
how much on that so
is true
go ahead the skate park on the
skateboard actually where would we
consider that
actually that's a good point uh
the site is under negotiation
Council has to go into executive session
oh that's okay I just thought about who
like let's fast forward
sure if you have a spot for it we would
actively consider it
it's good it does doesn't it he's saying
there's no application oh okay great
sorry a lot of upgrades for Front Street
well I was actually when I blanketly
said I was coming to support all of our
projects I did have some questions about
the skatepark but we don't have an
application and
but it is something that obviously
it caused concern and there's a lot of
liability
part that has been
sort of which I said informally
in place without any uh of us actually
wanting that particular place to be in
so you know but I wanted I didn't want
to talk about the skin care
I think um I want to uh I just want to
lend support to Mr probably means about
the applications for a little league I'm
full support of that
um
don't have any other things we're going
to get to but um
it seems as though we are going around
the Halloween civilians in terms of this
connected Italy
a number of mentioned what was that
number
350 350 000. let the kids play ball you
know we can Congress okay
um
anyway
so but again playing into all the parks
there and all the money
oh it's true
yes so anyway as far as um all the parts
I again
we've worked for the entire city the
entire Community especially the youth
again they're part of who's going to be
here living in the cities promoting our
city
so I informed Mr palamani's plan
of Oklahoma allocation with them
Revolution
it's connected literally
full support of the tree on the
development Lobby on occasion so that of
course
yes absolutely
Mr Williams
that's Quarterfield yes I am the support
of that so we are funding 350 000 in
Schenectady little league is there any
other additional name to horses
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okay perfect thank you and I'd like us
if there's I can understand that there's
concern about the skate park so 5.05
then for the remainder of the pool
projects
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projects I initially said pool
I was like we can't find that two times
it's okay
so it takes out the skate project for
further discussion
and it funds the rest of the parts
projects which are so really needed but
um
for
the contestants on the funding the
entire
Parks projects excluding the Escape Park
that's probably me
yes I have to do it it's just China yeah
this the total
yes yes Safari
now for the on for the amount that we're
talking about I think that now I'm we're
at a point where I want to fully fund
the
um little league and I think that you
know at this point I think we need to
recruit so at that point
none of the other department project
just
um
for the connective literally yes and
then I'm not saying that
Mr Williams
I said dudes and not having a formal
application I think it is important for
us to eventually discuss having a second
phase of applications which I would then
the size to the city or any other person
listening to submit a formal application
so that we would have something to
actually vote on for that reason I am
not in support of this analogy
interrogation
well in order to do the parks and
anything else it's a good idea but I
would like to see a plan and I haven't
seen one so I think that it's vitally
important that as we're considering it
look at what the plan as there's a
description here however I have not seen
a plan about anything beyond well
Jeremiah we did see a plan in the
discussions around lighting but other
than that we've not seen a plan around
it so um as we did with the golf course
as we did with Central Park we did see a
plan and so I would like prefer to see
that before before giving an affirmative
yeah same here with me because I mean I
appreciate me sending us this over the
weekend on Saturday and then the
description came into the this afternoon
with two updates I think I mean it
wouldn't hurt I mean I have nothing
against supporting his pathways on the
Harvest so um Safari clearly mentioned
Let's uh recruit I can agree time and
let's continue to discuss these and to
move forward and Performing these
some point in time to continue to
discuss these foreign
years
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again in that neighborhood I think that
if we had the a diamond Lighting in
Central Park would be able to expand
what we do in terms of tournaments at
night time to bring in Revenue to the
city but
talking about the Central Park tennis
courts repairs I know for myself the
Central Park General site improvements
include things like lighting and music
Haven I
roadway work some of I think some of the
parking I'm not sure about that
um these are things that we have been
talking about by the way
um
I know that the county is going to be
giving us money and the county is
waiting for us the county is sitting on
money but they want to hand to us I've
had two different phone calls again due
to my role
charge of that committee from two
different County Legends oh actually I
talked to three County legislators this
week we're all uh just waiting for us so
that they can hand us quite a lot of
money from their article funding funding
for the spark repairs so I totally think
that we should be moving forward with
the park Affairs I also want to say that
I don't know when we would meet again
but I'm on vacation next week and I'm
having surgery
six so um
stuff
let's go ahead miss somebody else so
I've seen just for single clarifying I
think can considering honestly
honest locations blatantly discredits
applications that were submitted I'm not
saying that I'm not in support of doing
these these developments on the Central
Park Pool I'm just saying there needs to
be
the considerations for the products that
were submitted if not for the very
reason of why we selected the snipe lead
Little League which was not on this list
and why it's important for us to do the
due diligence and look through each
application so I
forward having a second phase of
applications reserving some money for
that reason but also to make sure we
capture objects potentially in the north
side and challenging each of us to make
sure we carry this measurement into the
community submit an application
and if you have any issues reach out to
our planning and development office but
get an application submitted and we'll
review
I'll just go back to Mr Paul when he was
talking about the stimulus Park I mean
this is a good opportunity civilians
mentioning to encourage that agency out
there to submit an application so that
it can be put into consideration and
discussion by this Council please sorry
with all due respect to both of you now
and I and to the mayor
of the bear or another round of
occasions I think that I have to say and
I know that the mayor knows this I would
not have done this to begin with I think
that there are really priority projects
in the city
should have been funded through this
ARCA funding with our Grant application
for my absolutely absolutely would not
want to put money aside again to go
through this process we've delayed and delayed and part of the
reason for the delay was yes that the
committee met and we didn't see the
information that came back from home
committee so I want to publicly say that
as well so therefore I absolutely would
adamantly impose reopening the Grant
application and with apologies for your
new project as well and in respecting
what you're saying but that's how I feel
especially given my background in
development we had this conversation
actually months ago and I think several
of us were good reasons that we weren't
going to do around two of Grant
applications
so I totally am in agreement of no
additional applications this is one of
the most screwed up processes I've ever
been part of I've told the Meredith I've
made it public
and maybe not quite as blunt as that but
we have review applications where we ask
people to put a lot of time and effort
in and quite frankly the way the app the
reviews were done they're mostly
meaningless unfortunately and that's sad
to say even we asked people to put a lot
of hard time and effort
you can shake your head now
let me just explain please so we have
different categories
and some have been reviewed fully some
pattern but there's no way to compare
the cost categories either so because of
that the review
is not a complete review it's you're
comparing apples with oranges you're not
comparing apples or lettuce and that's
why that process doesn't work and
um you know we have an opportunity to
fund our Parks put money towards the
parks we hear that constantly from
people
um we have been inconsistent the only
thing we've been consistent about
tonight is being inconsistent about how
we go about these reviews
um we have one set for
one situation and another situational
it's something else
and
how is that a good process
um we have an opportunity to fund our
parks
and the only application that
I'm looking quickly that I see that
then on here's the skate parks which I'm
fine taking out
of the considerations
but these rest are pretty well described
here so
kind of where I'm at these you know
having extra meetings I don't think
solves anything
I mean not everybody had an opportunity
to dive into this and to kind of you
know get to understand exactly what is
happening into each of these
projects so I think it's fair that we I
understand I don't think anybody is
doing that we're not funding for 1940s
or they said give them an opportunity to
come back and we recruit and come back
as Mr Farley mentioned and look into
these in
everything is be consistent yes we've
had other ones in a similar situation
which we funded tonight and now we're
not even with no description to allow
unanimous consent possible because we
know the impact of that program if there
was an application yeah they have they
had something that application well I
mean again because again I also want to
point out that
we haven't talked about it but I think
another important piece of this puzzle
is streets and sidewalk information
and again if we leave this on the table
again
um I I just feel like we should be
spending money okay so I don't think I
don't think we have the Missouri I think
we have the majority that is saying that
let's hold this or for the discussion
on the parts improvements and we'll go
to your
place
we were finishing our conversation and
trying to hold the rest of it for
another night
and have one more item and then we'll
try to see if we got a review well I
also want to say the land bank I think
is also really important but
um but the streets and the other
infrastructure projects that also need
to be done by the city
um I think that we hear constantly from
our residents
about problems with
the Stellar infrastructure needs
and that's important as well
it certainly goes across the city
McCarthy is doing a fantastic job this
year in the paving streets across the
city yeah so we have the car that went
down there and there's a lot of things
whatever we deciding here to compliment
what he's doing but I'm more Paving
towards streets inside the water so it's
a discussion in terms of the sidewalk
it's city streets inside the box it's
gonna get that money put in where it
could be streets but
the council has moved and a couple of
the sidewalk proposals We've Ended up
subsidizing it in that model you know
it's
still somewhat fluid for getting numbers
to work but we all know the need for
sidewalk replacement here and how do we
structure
plans that those aren't the Historical
Method by which those sidewalks are put
in place but working with the property
owners to provide some incentive to
again upgrade their sidewalks and to do
you know whole streets because we all
know what a dramatic difference it makes
when the street is done and upgraded I'm
not just follow up I'm glad you
mentioned that because I was going to
ask the same question or do you have our
project plan in place what it is I just
wanted to stole it a lot of the consoles
working with where you're subsidizing
the sidewalk replacement where you know
the homeowner is paying some of it and
putting that money there so that we can
continue to do that model going forward
even though I'm not quite sure what the
numbers would be I think uh talking a
little subsidizing I think we um was it
a Cottage Street there's a midday
petition and I think we send them back
to everyone so um
we're getting the
I think the end was to get the numbers
first and then discuss whether we
subsidized something as well because I
think we discussed that with both the
proposal also go harder than whatever we
have and whatever the difference we
subsidized
to pass the full cost to the foreign
still waiting for the numbers now yeah
okay there's a couple other streets that
are waiting for stuff too
so in terms of uh in terms of the street
Paving streets and the sidewalks I mean
would it be
if we ask for a brief description of
what disclosure continues in terms of
rather than saying it's marijuana we're
doing because we're we're not doing a
lot in terms of the sidewalk program not
everybody signing competitions so I get
the city engineer here at your next
meeting and he'll give you the update on
the 10
so North College and what I'm going
forward on regards on this 3.5 yes yes
fun the weekend I just don't think it's
enough money
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I guess three and a half million won't
go very far and we've got a lot of
problems with manifold covers that need
to be built up yep I mean let's face it
we drive down the road and get Whiplash
you know there's other things that need
to be fixed in terms of curbing but I
really think we should look into
alternative curving and cement and in
certain areas but also the sidewalks are
a major problem and three and a half
million is a scratch okay all right
proposal that I would like to bring to
the table for discussion and
the capital regional Aquatic Center
this item is called favorable about the
participant and I'm asking us to put it
on the table for discussions of column
of 2.5 million dollars
with a contingency that they will seek
additional funding or
close to fully funded by the end of this
year
so 2.5 million of us set aside to the
Aquatic Center with a contingency that
they work towards
for additional funding
by the end of this year something
similar to what the country the company
has is proposing five million dollars
with a contingency of the end of
December to come up with a plan of where
they are in terms of seeking additional
funding so I want to put this there is
something that application is not an
amazing also but where we are in terms
of as a member of this Council Mr follow
me thank you support this project
however I think there's a big difference
between us and the county first of all
the county is June 5 million yes that's
great but the county is also going to
generate a lot of tax revenue for
themselves we do get part of it it's a
fraction of that if we were to do two
and a half the amount of time for us to
recoup our two and a half million
dollars would be quite frankly so I
either propose a million or if we do two
and a half ask the county to
re-evaluate the county tax agreement
where we get a percentage of the FED tax
which we currently get none of
and some sort of percentage there so
that our return on investment is much
quicker I'm not opposed to two and a
half but we do need to get some of the
tax money and that would be
also otherwise a million dollars
definitely a proponent of the product
Center for them to bring to the city
again
with revenue from bed packs and of
course we would have restaurants and uh
you know bring a lot of people and
colleges I would hope for
competitions and again we have a lot to
offer
to everyone who visits here
in favor
well
I'm just I'm probably gonna pass right
now because again 2.5
I'll take it back
we're getting down into
funding again how does this
uh so Mr Paolini says a million so
I'll I'll go a million point five
I'm definitely for yes yes
um
I I absolutely
Aquatic Center
um I'd like to see us do the two and a
half uh million I think that it
the county is putting in on I think that
it has
I do think that this
is I do also think that we should go
back to the county and try to
renegotiate the sales tax and tax
in particular
because I want to say I think this is
what we've been building towards these
kinds of large-scale projects we we have
how many hotels that we've put up you
know how many restaurants that have
opened we have attractions like the van
Gogh we have you know Proctors et cetera all of these things that I
have to give a nod to Mr Gillen over
here all the things that have been going
on in our community
um
bringing in the people that would come
into our city for tournaments of August
swim meets
um I call them tournaments
I actually don't really know how to swim
appropriately but the right way but
um I've watched as so many people leave
to go to these kinds of swim meets with
their children in all other places then
they have to stay overnight in hotels
and they have to eat out on
Schenectady
again put on the map as part of that
process
um have them come here we've got the
capacity now
what kind of things have you been trying
to
increase tourism
yes yes so I think it does have an
economic development impact and I think
it does also enhance tourism
um in much the same way whether these
other things are where are we going to
get the money
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I'll have to ask that question so that's
why we're going to have to go back to
the drawing board and look at it but
we're going to be on this safarily
because so I would I would like to hear
from our Planning Development Office
along this one
I'm sorry I don't even put you on the
spot I'm running back and forth all day
I'm just trying to just a brief
description of this project yes and if
you're not prepared to do that that
that's another time that's we're
literally I want to acknowledge that
we've been putting around the spot on
that you've been doing a wonderful job
opening yourself through this so I just
don't understand what you're saying
from Tuesday to Sunday
and I spent a lot of money and did not
really enjoy my time there or not gonna
lie I didn't go back and come back here
in a heartbeat there were people there
from Virginia Maryland New Jersey Long
Island Allegheny Mountain Maine
Massachusetts Connecticut all over the
Eastern Zone probably 2 000 people
Tuesday to Sunday and I'm Sarah Gregory
I'm sorry for The Aquatic on the
calibration Aquatic Center board so
that's that's a very that's one of the
low high level meats that I went to
there were probably 2 000 people there
as I said from Tuesday to Sunday in
aquatic events you don't go home when
you lose
you have to swim bad or dive bed and
continue on for the next day
um but then so the economic impact is
amazing the people it will bring in the bed taxes the food people have to
eat three meals a day they're not doing
it in the hotel room they're growing out
the moms want to shop the girls want to
go shopping they have downtown the boys
want to go play laser tag or go to a
movie so that economic impact is amazing
but there's also the community aspect
and I mean it was again I think there
were two or three groundings in our area
this weekend I I'm gonna cry thinking
about it and the way it's designed is we
have the the tools for the competition
and the training for competition and we
have a community pool and it's designed
that way so that whenever there's a
competition the community pool is still
open and the learn to swim is still
going on the adult Fitness the adult
learn to swim part of our mission is to
teach every first Schenectady City
second grader to swim and then expand it
out to Schenectady County and then there
are programs in the country that we're
modeling after that thing and then
they've even expanded them further we
can do the whole capital region where it
came to because one month of formal
school lessons decreases your chance to
drown by 80 percent
that's it's the community aspect the
health and wellness that really
gets gives to my heart about it the
economic impact is just this wonderful
benefit where the area just is amazing
we're modeled after Greensboro Aquatic
Center and since they opened 11 years
ago five hotels have opened in that area
and that's since the Aquatic Center not
any other
news every all the other athletic
activities already existed their first
year they brought 120 000 visitors to
the area with 40 million dollars of new
generated economic impact into I don't
understand the tax thing so I can't
speak to that but I do know that it will
help almost every business in the area
I've been driving down to Union College
because from I would actually live in
Saratoga but my son likes to come down
here to practice swimming
six days a week and I do my grocery
shopping here I go to the Starbucks here
I go you know I do my shopping here now
versus up there so there's also that
everyday practice thing where people are
going to be in the area
and they're gonna spend their money here
versus at home because I've got two plus
hours to sit in my car so instead it's
in my car I go to the grocery store I go
have dinner with someone so and then
again the community health and wellness
is it's an amazing thing that we can do
to you you guys thank you that's the
information part that's the car running
back to okay so um I would say yes he
has to support the requirement Center
um and my expectation would be that
there is a conversation around
um
attacks from that the city will receive
as well so yes well that's the one
that's going to work for me
Mr Williams I would agree as a
played by the municipality
oh with the conversational effects of
the county yes what's your number uh 2.5 Miss Quarterfield I'm gonna agree
with the 2.5 also with um what has been
discussed so far in terms of increasing
the city's Revenue yeah
having this University will continue to
add to our economic impact that we're
seeing across the city and thanks to Mr
Killa thanks thanks to am the
administration to continue this was just
compliment more than what we're doing in
the city here so I have to support this
2.5 million dollars with a contingency
that they come to us back with uh to
show us where additional funding the
source of funding the actual funding
where it's coming from in terms of that
and something we're gonna actually uh
something at the ladder similar to what
it comes to you guys sent to the Aquatic
Center so we'll try to drive that and
get it to Mr clothing
and I'm in full support of 2.5 million
dollars we want about the tax and also
makes important things
additional work to start that uh
negotiation with us in economies so
we'll start for that entertainment
foreign
agency to seek additional funding to
come towards the contract value
to propose a contract value to see where
they are in terms of getting additional
funding from the state other agencies
and I think they're doing a good job in
terms of getting funding they're it's
not mistaken close to 11 or 12 million
dollars already so that is that is a
positive direction they are moving and
without fear of
2.5 million dollar will just add to the
success story it's Aquatic Center just
want to make sure that it's clear on
what that is thank you yes
so we are in agreement to move to
2.5 million dollars majority on the
council one two three four five of us
2.5 million dollars
to be allocated to the Aquatic Center
based on
negotiation in terms of engaging the
county in terms of sales tax
bad times
pardon me both actions
of that so we have to get something back
yes absolutely and when so do we want to
put in the mountain there if they come
back to us and say nothing is everyone
still in for 2.5 if we're not going to
get anything addition
um
McCarthy that's something you will have
to particularly learn in terms of
English so
you still like me
now we can't ask you to take the lead on
a little bit more I look forward to
having the discussions with the county
thank you would you like some assistance
we're here to help
all right I think we're playing
successes
no Mr Turtle 1.5 million
um it's the parliament 1 million uh
yeah
if we don't then I'm opposed president
so yeah but that's why I kind of put you
down as a million 1.5 million so I think
we lost 2.5 yes so majority is moving
towards 2.5 million so we'll stick with
a 2.5 millimeter of the Aquatic Center
with the contingency on these things and
that was discussed here at the table
just like the contingency and see on the
project yes
I mean all right if it's a company
contingency time I have to say we're
hurting our negotiation status saying
we're going to give two and a half
million dollars
we have to negotiate first then get then
get into it
is that if the negotiation started us
can't get our way in terms of the
company has given us
additional money in terms of sales tax
what are we going to do
so I need an answer from this Council
really stick regardless well what I
would advise you to do is not negotiate
in public
I promise thank you
um you can always obviously allocate 2.5
million dollars to Capital Region
Aquatic Center without authorizing the
mayor to enter into a 2.5 million
without authorizing the mayor tattoo
into a contract right now with
contingencies and you have the money
tagged for the 2.5 but you don't have to
enter into a contract until you know
those other items
uh are accomplished thank you thank you
yes perfect
all right I think we did I think we did
a lot this evening uh you were respect
it past that we you know regroup about
winning so okay we need to so can we
work around your schedule well no I want
to yeah because to make sure that we're
going to be able to do the Central Park
yes yes absolutely so those are going to
come to us on Monday nights
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okay
has a summary of every item it will be
one resolution with all the list of
items that was passed on to by majority
of us even if it totals 60 million
instead
so I'm a little bit
so if I even asked Mr Collinger to
summarize what is going to be on the
resolution it's kind of forward next
month
in terms of allocations the total
allocation is 14 691
455.84 cents broken down as follows and
also please correct me if besides
allocating you're also authorizing a
contract then the mayor then enter into
a contract for those funds for example
the Green Market yes okay so just let me
know where that is okay 4.5 million
dollars for the pool construction
project 3.5 million dollars for the golf
course irrigation improvements
875 500
uh to the city and two hundred thousand
dollars to do a Community Foundation for
the Empowerment Center and the
foundation project
fifty thousand dollars to the Green
Market
um nine hundred and fifty thousand
dollars for the health and Equitable
food project minus the funding to the
Green Market
1.25 million dollars to Miracle on Craig
Street for uh the project of the Carver
Community Center Rehabilitation
172 073 to Safe House
343
882.84 cents to the seat Center
three hundred and fifty thousand dollars
to Schenectady little league and the
Blue Jays
and 2.5 million dollars to the capital
region Aquatic Center as an allocation
in terms of authorizing contracts I
would be authorizing the mayor to enter
or his designee into uh enter into a
contract with Gary Community Foundation
for two hundred thousand dollars
authorizing the mayor country to into a
contract with the Green Market
authorizing the mayor to enter into an
agreement with Safe House
with the seat center with Schenectady
little league and the Blue Jays my
recommendation as it relates to Miracle
on Craig Street and the capital region
aquatic centers because there are
contingencies involved in those just
allocate the funds until the the
contingencies are met then authorize the
contracts at a later point in time once
those contingencies have been met uh
unless I'm missing something here and
obviously that's up to the council
next time
next one yes so I will request that we
have all that in one resolution am I
missing in my mind
the total I have is 14
691
455.84 cents
for the the only question I have and
again this is up to the council or the
committee rather the Miracle on Craig
Street
um there were contingencies that were
discussed about other funding sources
coming through
whether or not it's an allocation only
the council is only going to allocate
the funds or if they're going to also
authorize the contract with the
contingencies in there as I said my
recommendation again that's just it's
just my recommendation is that you just
allocate the funds tag the funds right
now until the contingencies are met and
then
we can come back it can be brought back
and you know somebody can present from
the development department the
contingencies have been met and then
authorize a contract
same thing with the part of the center
because there are contingencies
any question that I have no issue with
regards to those uh
forbid on the same resolution so it
would be I mean a separate resolve yes
perfect
any other question on that
computer again
350 000 to Schenectady little league and
the Blue Jays
um
because I haven't seen the applicant I
don't know if I've seen their
application
um whatever it is it's going to be the
formal legal name obviously if we're
going to authorize that contract okay
same thing with everybody else they're so I'd have to go and take a
look and I'll talk to the development
department make sure we have their legal
name
you know Finance afterwards but 14
million six hundred ninety one thousand
four hundred fifty five dollars and 84
cents
what was discussed here
right all in favor all right thank you
very much
uh that's before we close um we need to
regroup and continue the discussion here
I know Miss Patrick is out next week I'm
here uh next week next week which is
Council that's our council meeting
of the next week is the next week the oh
the next week is our fifth Monday
so we don't have councils and so is
September 6th and I'm not going to be
here
today
our next community meeting is September
6th so you're not available next week of
the 26th 22nd the entire week I'm
York City
and then
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and then you're out until the next
committee meeting
she's out at the next Community for the
next committee meeting I'm
that's you know I can let you guys know
go ahead please
um so I know I mean we have a lot of
work to do so is anybody open until
meeting in the week that we're normally
off and just following a special meeting
so we can handle this out
you're gonna be out of town yeah
so you know what then let's meet on the
September
our next coming to a new thing
yeah go ahead please and can I suggest
that that folks can like send to you or
just be prepared at that meeting to what
they would like to bring forward so you
kind of know when we're dealing with him
prior to that
um can we know what how much money is
left yes
absolutely like in a Central Park and
put in what a good faith estimates and
we're still doing some of the final
deciding or which could ship those
numbers either up or down and those are
yeah
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sometimes a staff and contractors don't
agree with us
you know we've all made the commitment
for the pool using caveman a diner
tennis courts things I wanted to come
out so that it reflects well on
everybody and it's going to position
that part really for the next half
century
so and I want to come up where it's a
little bit short
a little bit to do the lighting the
sidewalking or Paving so again that it's
a
first class
investment in
all the facilities reflect that
greatness we all want
absolutely and just to that I agree with
you I think that um we need these
upgrades and I just love to see a plan
because I can I don't play golf but I do
play tennis so um I have a personal
interest in making sure Mr daily with
the council presidents numb to the golf
course um
that the courts are resurfaced and that
we you know have someone in in the
position to kind of oversee all that as
well as and I know that's a separate
thing and that's a Personnel issue but I
think that's important as we look at the
big picture of how we maintain this
major investment that we're going to
make so fully supportive of that we'd
love to see a plan and what that looks
like
Arizona
all right I'd like to call to order City
development and planning
I have the first on my agenda is to uh
public hearings to support Metroplex
application for ReStore New York grants
and a Mr a very awesome president did
such a good job writing the medals for
me I've spent a lot of time there's 250
million dollars in the state budget for
restoring work it's going to be
allocated in two groups of the first
round of funding is 100 million second
round's 150 million skanky can apply for
up to three million dollars so we're
asking for your support tonight to call
for public hearing I'll be on your
agenda next week public hearing will be
hello
there'll be a legal notice in The
Gazette then we come back after the
public hearing the next two cycles ask
for a resolution in support of the
application that has to be submitted in
early October or do very closely with
the city to get the application ready uh
we've won numerous rounds of previously
for ReStore New York it's a great
program so we just asked for your score
tonight to call for that public hearing
any questions
um
thank you very much Mr Jester thank you
for being so patience
yeah all right um the next item on the
agenda is to authorized issuance of a
revocable commit number 673 to John
Riley for sign an awning that will
overhang the stage right away
at
2235-237 Union Street and Mr Wrong I did
not see him though I think
the council's explanatory it's a kind of
a normal process of what is the council
is favorable consideration for that
looks like a beautiful sign the
information oh I'm sorry
I was anticipating your next words okay
the information is in the packet are
there any questions okay
um the third item on the agenda is
discussion of Hilton town hall meeting
September 2022 Mr Williams
so quickly the days while I'm selecting
the responses that I received
from the 23rd so it's a Friday as soon
as we can pass that I will work to
schedule to have uh
last name do a review and we'll be
hosted at DC Boys and Girls Club our
machine is very excited to have it this
person there
so I think having a safe visit by our
Zeb just confirm that we are good to go
uh we'll give any reinsurance I'll
ensure that the equipment appropriate is
there and
then discussion uh Mr Pullman referenced
that doing on formal press releases and
uh necessary so as I get that verbiage
written up out for council members and
that would be some time to help Mr
Golden one we don't have to do an
announcement of a meeting like we would
do for other things I mean we can still
certainly put out a press release and
put out an announcement but there's no
legal requirement to do anything
um and there was one final consideration
on how many recommended keeping the
meeting at 7 pm just to stay in kind
with our Council meetings No 5 30.
actually that's right
and I misread that um
I think
I thought would be enough time and I
think people would come right from work
as opposed to you know going home you
feet up I get it it's hard to come back
up yes Mr Toro oh it was me Mr Williams
who said we should probably keep him
keep it in line seven o'clock meeting
um since originally we wanted to change
our meetings to a different time with
seven o'clock seemed to fit better to
most people's schedules so again that
was me that that made that suggestion
I'm open for the 5 30 to 7. it was fun
Mr motivary yeah I'm good at 5 30. the
September twins are selected
time with that
so we will hear from you
so um
just I'm all for that I think that's the
suggestion I'm just thinking about if
we're going to host it at the Boys and
Girls Club 100 that time slot might
impactor I believe in provide
programming I don't know if that would
be I'm sure in our customers
so uh
um I guess we have the interesting
motion that we agree on meeting having a
town hall meeting on Friday September
23rd at 5 30 to 7 pm
so
it's okay all those in favor all right
thank you okay the final items on the
agenda are for property sales so for
that reason we need to go to Tech
session
all those in favor
um and the public has to leave
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