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me

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so

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foreign

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um

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so

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is

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yes

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come on

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down

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um

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uh

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so

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wow

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stuff

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okay

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okay

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um

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hmm

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yes

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it messes with ralphie's car it comes on its own

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oh dear goodness

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classes

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yes

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oh

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oh

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for tuesday september 6 2022

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the first item on the agenda mr ferrari

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is financed

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thank you cultural finance committee and

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of course item is 2022 when it's really

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continuum of care for capital district

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once here

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sorry

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um so this request is basically an

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annual contract that we

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have with the ymca for the hud continuum

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of care and it helps to support rental

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and administrative costs for

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homelessness in the city of schenectady

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so they operate the facility at 845

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broadway

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so this is just a recommendation for the

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city council to approve renewing this

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annual contract that we have with the

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ymca to operate the program at 845

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broadway

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and this the first one is for the 10 bed

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i believe so there's two contracts one

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is for the 10 lid and then the second is

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for the 20

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again it's the same thing

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uh we're here today to uh request uh to

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schedule a public hearing for

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october 11th of 2023 on the

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budget for the 2023 budget

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we're hoping that we get this passed and

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after we have the

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public hearing we're hoping that on the

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17th of october we'll be able to discuss

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what we called and hopefully we'll pass

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the budget by the 24th of october

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thank you very much

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absorbing

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16.005 785 and a few weeks ago

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additional 14 609

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because it was already taken care of

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because of the painting that was being

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done down there it says what they needed

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the um so i asked her folks who said

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anything the only thing i received from

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i did receive something from miss

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patrick because she said she wouldn't be

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here tonight so i would just like to

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and um in the packet there should be a

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backup of all the applications that they

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submitted so um

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what ms patrick's was uh most concerned

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about was the park

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and so um

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the recommendations she wasn't specific

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it should be in your

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um 250 000 and these all this was on the

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last thing that the mayor had submitted

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um 250 000 for the full repairs

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and um 250 000 for the riverside park 10

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and another citizen doing the parts

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another 1 million for central park

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general improvements which would

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actually take that to what the original

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request was which was 5.5 million

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because we already approved 4.5 million

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so those are the ones that um

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that i have here for miss patrick so we

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could just go around and um and if

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others have things that they want to

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control i can start with mr palmini if

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you have anything i knew you had parks

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the last time did you have anything i

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think there should be the

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projects that the mayor proposed last

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time in the parks at

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6.09 and then

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the remainder of the money should be put

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towards the sidewalks and roads

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every different neighborhood is a chance

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for everyone in the whole community to

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be serviced by by the parks and

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so i'm in favor of proposing giving all

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that money to the parks

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and again in infrastructure but i'd also

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like to bring up that um

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i'd like to not spend all of our money

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in this particular session

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um to see what's left and to kind of

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come around again

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i'd like to pay a greater

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amount of gratitude to our city

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employees especially local 1037

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office of general services they're out

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in the during the pandemic they were on

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the streets every day they were in the

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office every day

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they didn't have the opportunity to stay

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home

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and work from their computers

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or work from a private office they were

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on the streets they were sanitation

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workers water sewer

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and i'd like to

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at some point

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visit

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extending some money to them

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to the workers

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who were front line essential workers

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as far as maybe some

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funding for their

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like everyone else received for

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being vaccinated presenting their

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vaccination card so again i think that

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would be very important to me um and i'd

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like just to

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uh for us to consider saving some money

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um to a lot for that

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um again there's no application but

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again this this money

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is to use for

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anyone who was affected by cola and if

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there was anyone affected by cova it was

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the amount of probably

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between 140 and 150

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local 1037

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employees who

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had to stay home with code but who are

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out in everyday work encoding bringing

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cova back to their families or being

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infected by hobart so my first focus

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today would be for the parks definitely

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and then

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i would like to see some infrastructure

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issues

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addressed

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i know there was a break over in the

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north side today the water's still not

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established so we have some extremely

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aging infrastructure in this city and

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again if we if you work on some of the

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infrastructure it can benefit every

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single member

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of the community so that's what i would

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to

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in terms of let me just address in terms

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of the money from 1037. there was some

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money that was put aside called job

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retention that's not even included in

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this correct no we have not even spent

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all of that so um

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thank you

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majority of not all of them

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and i just have a little cheat sheet

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here the central car a diamond

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the central park tennis court the elvars

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fairview park

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and the hillbars

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pool repair

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and a riverside bar

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i would like to see those that we

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discuss and consider

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this project and to perform the

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in regards to the parts

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are you ready to

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jump in here

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okay

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sure

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we're talking about our recommendations

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at this point in time where is she

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okay um so

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the projects that i need to

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boys and girls club

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so it's just to be clear because um

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so if you just tell us how much you want

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to fund them for the co-pilot

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um

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for 1.2 million dollars

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so um just in terms of i think everyone

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got the email from hamilton hill art

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center so i think it

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represents for the discussion is yes

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they send us an email

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initially they asked for i think it was

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1.5

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i can look it up and

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1.7 initially thank you it was 1.7

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and they wanted to do artist funding

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excuse me artist housing

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from the intern while we were in this

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process

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they

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actually received funding from another

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source to do their artist housing

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so their ask has been reduced

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and also revised

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to a um different ask um

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could you just come and explain what

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from our is

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they're looking to create a new building

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essentially their existing building is

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fitted of a lot of repairs and

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i believe the objective is to

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take the first step in building a

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structure in the current sculpture park

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with a longer range plan of rebuilding

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where their current building is so now

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that they have the sculpture park and

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the existing

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site across the street they're looking

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to um

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they're looking to put this funding

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towards that

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um

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and this would

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i

303
00:40:18,319 --> 00:40:20,240
does anybody have any questions about

304
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:40,470
the proposal um

305
00:40:40,480 --> 00:40:42,720
which you know includes a lot of

306
00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:44,960
information about what they do what this

307
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:46,319
would be they have a lot of different

308
00:40:46,319 --> 00:40:47,760
aspects of their programming which

309
00:40:47,760 --> 00:40:50,560
includes after school programs um you

310
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,119
know cultural events art exhibits

311
00:40:53,119 --> 00:40:54,000
um

312
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,319
various things of that nature music

313
00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:58,480
lessons dance lessons they do a lot of

314
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:01,200
different programming

315
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,480
um they've been around for over 50

316
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:13,829
years so

317
00:41:13,839 --> 00:41:16,480
including the amounts

318
00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:24,790
thank you

319
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:44,660
um

320
00:41:44,670 --> 00:41:47,359
[Music]

321
00:41:47,359 --> 00:41:49,839
state park tennis court philhars

322
00:41:49,839 --> 00:41:51,839
the um

323
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:54,640
renovations riverside tennis court and

324
00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,280
uh including the additional million

325
00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520
to raise the general

326
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:01,920
park improvements to their full ass

327
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,000
additionally i'd like to include both of

328
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:06,240
the ywca projects

329
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:08,960
uh the mayor recommended one that urged

330
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,280
me at 364

331
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:12,240
000.

332
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:14,800
i'd like to include in the second which

333
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:18,240
was a transition program for 750 000.

334
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:19,839
additionally i'd like to include

335
00:42:19,839 --> 00:42:21,200
proctor's

336
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:24,319
air filtration program for 76 thousand

337
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:25,760
dollars

338
00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:27,760
i would like to include the kiwanis

339
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:30,079
project for ten thousand dollars and i

340
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:32,480
would also like to make in consideration

341
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,720
for the stockade pump station i know

342
00:42:34,720 --> 00:42:37,040
they're asking for considerably more but

343
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:38,720
i would recommend

344
00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:40,480
leaving them halfway

345
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,640
at 750 000

346
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:54,790
and

347
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,800
you already mentioned the um urgent need

348
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,400
for the y so

349
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,510
also um

350
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,720
they he recommended habitat for 500 000

351
00:43:04,720 --> 00:43:07,599
likes to support that it also looks for

352
00:43:07,599 --> 00:43:09,520
100 000 first cap

353
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:12,720
and the city hall hvac

354
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:21,440
project okay

355
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:30,390
and the city hall h stack for 352 000.

356
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:48,710
that was it so we can go ahead

357
00:43:48,720 --> 00:43:49,520
so

358
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,599
initially

359
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:55,280
you came to us it was 120

360
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:56,800
and are you still talking about that

361
00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,560
number

362
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,880
um i mean that's what the request was

363
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:03,440
when we put in the application

364
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,920
costs are increasingly we actually added

365
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,599
a lot to the scope because now we're

366
00:44:07,599 --> 00:44:09,359
including the tennis court and the

367
00:44:09,359 --> 00:44:11,359
basketball court across the street

368
00:44:11,359 --> 00:44:13,040
making that when we're mobilized

369
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,359
initially the grant was just for the

370
00:44:15,359 --> 00:44:17,440
festival for splash pad and now it's

371
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:20,079
kind of expanded so the project budget

372
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:22,480
is increased so i just want to make it

373
00:44:22,480 --> 00:44:23,920
clear that that's a product that's ready

374
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:26,880
to go learn how to unlike a lot of these

375
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,960
other ones

376
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:29,960
one of those

377
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:33,380
thoughts together

378
00:44:33,380 --> 00:44:47,349
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379
00:44:47,359 --> 00:45:02,550
riverside park tennis

380
00:45:02,560 --> 00:45:05,440
if we increased it to kind of grab that

381
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,280
components in there so that we're not

382
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,200
doing a project when we do one component

383
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:11,520
and then we hear it later on well all

384
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,920
these other parts got those components

385
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,079
so that was different from the last time

386
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:17,920
christian was up here talking about the

387
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:19,440
lighting component so what we did is we

388
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,520
put the lighting on and we added that

389
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:24,480
kind of sports car components so that if

390
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:25,839
we were to move forward

391
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:27,520
all the cords would be kind of similarly

392
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,520
done with the coatings and refresher

393
00:45:29,520 --> 00:45:31,520
things like that um so that's why the

394
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,280
cost went up because it was outside of

395
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:35,680
the original scope

396
00:45:35,680 --> 00:45:40,069
that that's where

397
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:47,270
so what is the question

398
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,280
you know we're getting around like what

399
00:45:49,280 --> 00:45:51,520
we're using for example is you know

400
00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:55,680
riverside park we were working with uh

401
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,040
cha

402
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:59,599
kind of a two tennis court basketball

403
00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,839
court combo down there we're right in

404
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:04,400
the neighborhood of 250 to 300 to

405
00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:07,520
freshen the surface fencing re-coat and

406
00:46:07,520 --> 00:46:10,400
bring those cords back so then this we

407
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:12,319
have two cords

408
00:46:12,319 --> 00:46:14,480
and a basketball court the center court

409
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:16,240
we kind of already had in our budget the

410
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:19,119
main court but it was those two tennis

411
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:21,440
courts and then the uh

412
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:23,280
was a great remote basketball court

413
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:24,240
those were the areas that we were

414
00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:27,760
looking to get this funding for and we

415
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:27,860
with

416
00:46:27,860 --> 00:46:40,950
[Music]

417
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,440
of our our stoke was lighting there so

418
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:44,960
it's just to bring the whole park kind

419
00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:49,589
of up

420
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:51,040
question

421
00:46:51,040 --> 00:46:53,040
so

422
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,440
you're saying so the original so the

423
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:57,680
main court was in the original main

424
00:46:57,680 --> 00:46:58,880
court

425
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:01,040
the main court was always the base bid

426
00:47:01,040 --> 00:47:02,720
was part of it but we weren't going

427
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:04,560
beyond the main court we weren't going

428
00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,920
into uh tennis in any one uh i want to

429
00:47:07,920 --> 00:47:22,790
call satellite

430
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:24,319
if we would like we're going to get the

431
00:47:24,319 --> 00:47:25,599
bids

432
00:47:25,599 --> 00:47:26,480
soon

433
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:29,119
so we could you know get bits bring them

434
00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:30,960
to you and we kind of talk about what we

435
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,359
want to do and that would be the most

436
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:36,800
accurate um if we do it that way

437
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,319
but right now we just have estimates so

438
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:39,440
we're estimating that those core

439
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:40,960
components are going to be similar the

440
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:45,589
250 to 300 and then the lightning

441
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:47,520
so we added those two together we got

442
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:49,839
450 and then we just you know everything

443
00:47:49,839 --> 00:47:51,760
we always do has a contingency

444
00:47:51,760 --> 00:47:55,990
because the costs are so unpredictable

445
00:47:56,000 --> 00:47:58,880
so are you telling us 450 right now

446
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,800
i thought in the request

447
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:16,150
right i thought that was in the request

448
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:21,910
so

449
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:47,030
yes

450
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:50,160
was all per day and work is being done

451
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,319
i mean they may have asked for in a

452
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:54,640
proposal 500 000

453
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:56,319
i don't have any issue

454
00:48:56,319 --> 00:49:08,870
adding that so the parks projects

455
00:49:08,880 --> 00:49:11,599
my recommendation as we discussed it

456
00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:12,960
last time would be appropriating and

457
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,720
running for that particular purpose

458
00:49:14,720 --> 00:49:15,920
because the south debate is still going

459
00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:17,440
to have to come back to the city council

460
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,760
to actually approve the contract right

461
00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:21,760
yes

462
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,599
we're pretty much doing the same as we

463
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:26,710
did the last time all right

464
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:28,559
there is a contingency assigned to it

465
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,829
we'll let you

466
00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:33,280
and what we did last time there were

467
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:34,400
certain

468
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:36,079
as a reminder

469
00:49:36,079 --> 00:49:39,510
certain

470
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,440
organizations that the council wanted to

471
00:49:41,440 --> 00:49:42,800
move ahead with

472
00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,200
in terms of funding them directly so he

473
00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:46,960
said authorize the mayor and enter into

474
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,720
a contract with those particular ones

475
00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:51,040
otherwise it was just essentially to you

476
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,280
know flatten better work had the money

477
00:49:53,280 --> 00:50:06,710
um

478
00:50:06,720 --> 00:50:08,960
so i think it's a good point for me to

479
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:10,319
interject so i'm going to share my

480
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:12,800
comments before are in line with mr

481
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:14,640
economy suggestion including the other

482
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:16,319
parts

483
00:50:16,319 --> 00:50:18,880
i would be in agreement with holding

484
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,280
x amount of dollars

485
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:23,520
for a amended

486
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:24,640
second round

487
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,800
i know that we've all had and heard from

488
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:29,119
the community how that was interpreted

489
00:50:29,119 --> 00:50:31,119
but i think there are still lingering

490
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:32,240
projects

491
00:50:32,240 --> 00:50:34,480
that need ample consideration

492
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,160
so i know although

493
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,839
us as a member

494
00:50:37,839 --> 00:50:39,200
of the community

495
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:41,680
we are coming with our ideas and

496
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:43,440
recommendations but i still believe that

497
00:50:43,440 --> 00:50:46,079
there is a considerable amount of

498
00:50:46,079 --> 00:50:48,640
potential projects that could equally

499
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,559
and should equally be considered

500
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:51,599
so

501
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:53,359
although i was

502
00:50:53,359 --> 00:50:56,079
not planning specifically to

503
00:50:56,079 --> 00:50:58,160
put that much towards jerry broyle with

504
00:50:58,160 --> 00:50:59,839
me personally i want to make sure

505
00:50:59,839 --> 00:51:02,480
considerations are made so that

506
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:04,880
once funded it's funded appropriately so

507
00:51:04,880 --> 00:51:06,720
now he's nearly together so i appreciate

508
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:09,680
this along uh providing that

509
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:13,839
overview but then also wanted to keep in mind with the other projects or

510
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:17,589
all the parts that are still out there

511
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:19,520
i think taking moments to understand

512
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:34,950
what our intent is with

513
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:37,040
like to see drug harvey at the internet

514
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:38,880
because from part of the years of

515
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:41,839
nothing that that market is being used

516
00:51:41,839 --> 00:51:44,319
every week every day so i think we need

517
00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:47,359
to get so these two parts consideration

518
00:51:47,359 --> 00:51:48,720
as we go about

519
00:51:48,720 --> 00:52:03,109
allocating

520
00:52:03,119 --> 00:52:04,640
needs repair

521
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,960
that needs to be done it's on there

522
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,040
somebody said that i thought that was

523
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,760
taken out no no no no no no all right

524
00:52:11,760 --> 00:52:16,710
specifically

525
00:52:16,720 --> 00:52:18,880
i'm

526
00:52:18,880 --> 00:52:21,119
fairview park tennis basketball

527
00:52:21,119 --> 00:52:24,480
pickleball dog park i'm asking for a

528
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,400
full funding as for the mayor's request

529
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,599
as i said again we i speak with miss um

530
00:52:31,599 --> 00:52:33,040
patrick as well and those were concerned

531
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:34,640
so those are the the the ones that were

532
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,559
outlined hillary's both the first

533
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:39,520
projects are actually included

534
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:44,630
uh full full and mostly the full asking

535
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:47,280
um so what's the mood of aaron uh what

536
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:48,720
was

537
00:52:48,720 --> 00:52:55,430
remaining

538
00:52:55,440 --> 00:53:04,150
so david spence around 20.7

539
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:06,480
job retention

540
00:53:06,480 --> 00:53:08,160
all the allocation that was done during

541
00:53:08,160 --> 00:53:09,760
full weight and i have to cover it and

542
00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:12,319
then what we did the last runs

543
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:15,280
so we are talking about um

544
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:18,240
you know 30.7 million dollars that's

545
00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:19,920
already allocated

546
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:20,960
and

547
00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:23,599
if if you're wrong so

548
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:25,760
i can start with myself in terms of less

549
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,839
start to pull some numbers out in terms

550
00:53:27,839 --> 00:53:29,839
of whatever concepts regardless of our

551
00:53:29,839 --> 00:53:32,720
specific project for the parts and that

552
00:53:32,720 --> 00:53:33,760
way i can

553
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,520
ask anybody mention any project can you

554
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:37,359
just give us a number because i think

555
00:53:37,359 --> 00:53:38,400
this

556
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:40,640
whole day we're making notes of each one

557
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,359
of the projects so i can start with

558
00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:44,400
the

559
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:47,839
headwear spark hill horse fairview park

560
00:53:47,839 --> 00:53:49,920
and i absolutely tennis

561
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,960
basketball pickleball dog park

562
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:54,240
asking every

563
00:53:54,240 --> 00:54:01,190
500 there that's on the airport also

564
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:02,400
we are

565
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:04,640
just moved on

566
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:07,280
home repairs

567
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:14,130
i am asking for 250 000 here

568
00:54:14,140 --> 00:54:18,470
[Music]

569
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,079
a diamond

570
00:54:20,079 --> 00:54:29,829
500 000

571
00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:31,260
the central park

572
00:54:31,260 --> 00:54:32,960
[Music]

573
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:46,390
tennis court 500 000.

574
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,799
so we had a diamond

575
00:54:48,799 --> 00:55:19,510
the tennis

576
00:55:19,520 --> 00:55:22,480
riverside park tennis basketball

577
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:24,880
and court reconstruction

578
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:30,789
and that is 250 yes

579
00:55:30,799 --> 00:55:33,040
example

580
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:35,910
that's two million

581
00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:38,240
cherry oral part we have the consensus

582
00:55:38,240 --> 00:55:40,400
on the floor so to move this out

583
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,880
since i'm doing the park here

584
00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:46,950
by

585
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:50,079
uh since its 1000 and mr um

586
00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:52,319
mr walnut has given us what he thinks is

587
00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:56,870
fall probably i'm i can support that

588
00:55:56,880 --> 00:56:09,589
um

589
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:14,309
and we have the

590
00:56:14,319 --> 00:56:16,160
i don't think we anybody mentioned

591
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,150
central park tennessee but i think

592
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:21,599
the other one says central park house

593
00:56:21,599 --> 00:56:22,799
you mentioned earlier that's just a

594
00:56:22,799 --> 00:56:24,480
court reconstruction

595
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:26,079
no that is that doesn't include that's

596
00:56:26,079 --> 00:56:28,000
the rivalry park now you said central

597
00:56:28,000 --> 00:56:41,750
park times earlier

598
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:48,880
no

599
00:56:48,890 --> 00:56:56,230
[Music]

600
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:59,200
is that included in the 500 000 century

601
00:56:59,200 --> 00:57:00,799
card tennis court or is that something

602
00:57:00,799 --> 00:57:02,079
separate

603
00:57:02,079 --> 00:57:06,549
no no

604
00:57:06,559 --> 00:57:08,480
that was i think one of the things that

605
00:57:08,480 --> 00:57:09,599
we're getting a little

606
00:57:09,599 --> 00:57:11,040
boston

607
00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:13,599
the parks projects were kind of like

608
00:57:13,599 --> 00:57:16,079
i call it you know the

609
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:17,440
wish list right

610
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,440
if we had this one of the things that we

611
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,319
don't have and it's not because we can't

612
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:24,480
is that we don't uh we haven't really

613
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,240
met with the parks committee we have a

614
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,079
parks committee

615
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:29,839
and we really would like to utilize

616
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:32,960
those committees to prioritize things

617
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:36,079
myself and kristin and anthony and paul

618
00:57:36,079 --> 00:57:38,240
the four of us as department heads we

619
00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:40,799
can prioritize things as we see them but

620
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:43,440
we don't feel that that is

621
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:45,680
great for us as the public parks and

622
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:47,119
they involve so many outside entities

623
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:49,760
and neighborhoods and so you know if the

624
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:52,000
council might do it this is that so

625
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:53,839
right now everything you said is great

626
00:57:53,839 --> 00:57:56,079
my personal opinion central park tennis

627
00:57:56,079 --> 00:57:58,160
lighting is

628
00:57:58,160 --> 00:58:00,079
it's down here all right it's it's it's

629
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,160
that this off the floor you know we want

630
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:04,000
to get the other projects up the a

631
00:58:04,000 --> 00:58:05,200
diamond we've been trying to get that

632
00:58:05,200 --> 00:58:06,400
lit for

633
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:07,440
eight years

634
00:58:07,440 --> 00:58:09,040
you know some of these other projects

635
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:10,319
that have just come up that are taking

636
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,240
some money you know but this was you

637
00:58:12,240 --> 00:58:12,880
know

638
00:58:12,880 --> 00:58:15,520
a list that we put together and the

639
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,440
other thing just to make sure is

640
00:58:17,440 --> 00:58:19,359
just because we may not fund it with

641
00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:21,359
arpa doesn't mean that it will never get

642
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:22,880
funded you know we're going through a

643
00:58:22,880 --> 00:58:24,799
capital budget right now we're going to

644
00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:26,799
do a capital budget next year

645
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:29,920
um we're programming a lot right now

646
00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:33,440
okay the person that gets all that done

647
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,280
is just me

648
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,359
so you know that's a lot to put on the

649
00:58:37,359 --> 00:58:39,359
plate i mean kristen does

650
00:58:39,359 --> 00:58:41,359
some but when you get into construction

651
00:58:41,359 --> 00:58:44,160
it's engineering it's a lot of work so

652
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:45,760
we're programming a lot here we've got

653
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:47,359
to have realistic expectations of what

654
00:58:47,359 --> 00:58:49,359
we can get out with regards to doing

655
00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:51,760
this on top of you know about 50 million

656
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,040
dollars next year republican

657
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,400
infrastructure work

658
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,520
you know so

659
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:57,920
it's tough so that's what if we could

660
00:58:57,920 --> 00:58:59,359
you know i'm going to try to bundle some

661
00:58:59,359 --> 00:59:00,960
of these things together if we're doing

662
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:02,319
sports course we'll try to involve

663
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:04,720
sports courses one

664
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:06,880
but i'll also you know prioritize things

665
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:09,119
and one of the discussions we had was

666
00:59:09,119 --> 00:59:10,880
uh hillhurst park

667
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:12,880
do we make it and we establish it as a

668
00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,680
pool do we go splash pad it sounds like

669
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,960
we want to

670
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:18,799
which is good that's a decision that we

671
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:20,160
weren't comfortable making at the time

672
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:29,349
we had it out there

673
00:59:29,359 --> 00:59:32,400
just for clearing you mentioned uh

674
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,160
project allocation

675
00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,240
is that restricted completely to your

676
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,160
title as a department head or is that

677
00:59:38,160 --> 00:59:41,440
just due to staffing locations

678
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,359
both

679
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:46,079
so if it goes through engineering

680
00:59:46,079 --> 00:59:47,920
i don't have staff to allocate things to

681
00:59:47,920 --> 00:59:49,599
i have consultants for consultants and

682
00:59:49,599 --> 00:59:51,040
managers

683
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:51,839
so

684
00:59:51,839 --> 00:59:53,440
it's just it's a lot

685
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,349
thanks

686
00:59:57,359 --> 00:59:58,319
so the

687
00:59:58,319 --> 01:00:01,040
500 000 is not the lighting the lighting

688
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:03,599
is 400 000. and the

689
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:06,400
500 000 is researching the tennis courts

690
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:07,440
right right

691
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:09,520
and and that cost that's the other thing

692
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:12,000
that i would make sure we do this with

693
01:00:12,000 --> 01:00:13,920
our bonding and it's something that

694
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,559
andrew and anthony can uh work on and i

695
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:17,920
don't know how this important part does

696
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,079
if it's not bonded is

697
01:00:20,079 --> 01:00:21,839
to keep things general enough for when

698
01:00:21,839 --> 01:00:24,000
we don't use it or if we do

699
01:00:24,000 --> 01:00:28,400
you know that we can use it for other things so central park we know

700
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,079
that we need to upgrade some reports

701
01:00:30,079 --> 01:00:31,839
some of the cracks there's some heaping

702
01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:35,280
and some areas so we're gonna go um

703
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,040
maybe that's how much it could be less

704
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:38,799
and if it's less does it go back into a

705
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:41,119
pot or can you use it for other tennis

706
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:43,200
related improvements

707
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,119
that's where you know if we were doing

708
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:46,880
this in bonded money you know i would

709
01:00:46,880 --> 01:00:49,040
advise that we call this

710
01:00:49,040 --> 01:00:51,440
city of connecticut recreational core

711
01:00:51,440 --> 01:00:52,960
improvements

712
01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:55,680
not central park riverside i know that

713
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,119
this is a little bit different we want

714
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:58,960
to be more specific but i just want to

715
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,960
make sure too that as we program we're

716
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,640
leaving ourselves some flexibility so

717
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,319
that if

718
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:06,799
central park comes in at 400 and

719
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:08,880
riverside comes in at

720
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:11,119
400. okay well that's the same how we

721
01:01:11,119 --> 01:01:13,119
can balance and we can get the projects

722
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:16,079
done that's why also a prioritization of

723
01:01:16,079 --> 01:01:18,960
projects would be nice so that

724
01:01:18,960 --> 01:01:20,880
if the projects start coming in over

725
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:23,599
budget we get that done and we don't

726
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:26,640
just have to build one that's one of the

727
01:01:26,640 --> 01:01:28,400
biggest problems we're having right now

728
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:29,280
is

729
01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:31,040
costs we want up pledges to stay the

730
01:01:31,040 --> 01:01:32,880
same and we're running into the luxury

731
01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:34,319
rail that we have these projects that we

732
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:36,079
don't have all the money to finish we

733
01:01:36,079 --> 01:01:37,920
really want to finish little horses are

734
01:01:37,920 --> 01:01:39,119
great examples

735
01:01:39,119 --> 01:01:41,200
you know so right now my top projects to

736
01:01:41,200 --> 01:01:42,079
finish

737
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:44,400
are jerry burrell hillburst very because

738
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:45,839
they've been out there for the longest

739
01:01:45,839 --> 01:01:47,839
i'd really like to finish them because

740
01:01:47,839 --> 01:01:49,440
people will be waiting for them and then

741
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,839
as we go we can get to the next round

742
01:01:51,839 --> 01:01:53,520
you know riverview was great

743
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:55,760
but that i have that one level of a wall

744
01:01:55,760 --> 01:01:57,359
because we've been working on these

745
01:01:57,359 --> 01:01:59,680
other two for you know a year and a half

746
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,760
two years he's done and cover had a lot

747
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,680
to do

748
01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:05,200
so

749
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:07,039
but so

750
01:02:07,039 --> 01:02:10,000
i i appreciate that you know lands the

751
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,079
reason i want to be aggregable in all

752
01:02:12,079 --> 01:02:13,680
the parks all right so that makes sense

753
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:14,880
to me why

754
01:02:14,880 --> 01:02:16,400
jerry garrell you know

755
01:02:16,400 --> 01:02:18,839
bought me to

756
01:02:18,839 --> 01:02:21,359
prioritize route i guess my question

757
01:02:21,359 --> 01:02:22,400
is

758
01:02:22,400 --> 01:02:25,760
we're talking about the capital um

759
01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:28,240
capital budget i'm i'm thinking about

760
01:02:28,240 --> 01:02:29,839
like you know are there other places

761
01:02:29,839 --> 01:02:31,119
that that

762
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:32,880
some of the projects

763
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:34,400
can be funded from

764
01:02:34,400 --> 01:02:38,559
because the arc of money is um

765
01:02:38,559 --> 01:02:40,640
refunds so i just want to make sure that

766
01:02:40,640 --> 01:02:42,000
right now you know i'm kind of taking

767
01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,119
point that we're not paying ourselves in

768
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:45,119
the corners where we're you know

769
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:47,280
over specific to where it makes sense to

770
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:49,280
move money to a different project to

771
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:52,640
maintain you know some continental

772
01:02:52,640 --> 01:02:54,640
parts

773
01:02:54,640 --> 01:02:57,920
but i'm just thinking about you know how do

774
01:02:57,920 --> 01:03:00,559
we assure that there's not other funds

775
01:03:00,559 --> 01:03:02,079
that could be earmarked for some of the

776
01:03:02,079 --> 01:03:04,720
projects um and then you know some of

777
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:07,920
these articles can be kind of

778
01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:09,760
returned to the popular some of this you

779
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:12,319
know smaller community uh

780
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:15,119
grassroots initiatives

781
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:17,280
well so you know christie can talk to

782
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:18,480
this a little bit more but i'm not going

783
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:19,440
to impact

784
01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,119
you know so right now when we do parts

785
01:03:21,119 --> 01:03:22,880
projects the main funding source for

786
01:03:22,880 --> 01:03:25,520
parts project is our cdbg money we

787
01:03:25,520 --> 01:03:28,079
either do cpg money or grants those are

788
01:03:28,079 --> 01:03:29,920
the two ones that we use so when things

789
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:33,119
go over we kind of rely on cdbg money to

790
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,200
help now to your point though we can use

791
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:36,880
cv's money for other things just like we

792
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:38,880
can use for other things

793
01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:40,559
i think the last thing we want to do if

794
01:03:40,559 --> 01:03:42,640
you ask amp is borrow money you know

795
01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:44,000
that's the last thing because borrow

796
01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:46,160
money is just like taking a mortgage out

797
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:47,440
you don't want to borrow if you don't

798
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:49,920
have to but at the same point i think

799
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:52,000
that we should all be realistic to say

800
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,880
if the city has needs and desires the

801
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,480
council can borrow money to do that um

802
01:03:58,480 --> 01:03:59,760
but like

803
01:03:59,760 --> 01:04:01,920
in my on my opinion if i was ranking

804
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,839
they have so many old products a diamond

805
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:05,760
lighting might say eight years very

806
01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,160
barrel apart three years

807
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:10,240
those are where i will try to go down

808
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:12,000
and then we get down the bus

809
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,280
and the community

810
01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:14,640
yeah this could be the only shop for

811
01:04:14,640 --> 01:04:16,480
some of them but that's kind of outside

812
01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:18,400
of my purview you know that's what this

813
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:19,839
is i'm just trying to make sure you

814
01:04:19,839 --> 01:04:21,520
understand like if we're really

815
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,680
splitting parents here i think that

816
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:25,200
based on our meetings the people at

817
01:04:25,200 --> 01:04:26,960
central park would love for those courts

818
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:30,480
to just stay at that tournament level uh

819
01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:32,559
that we keep them at and hey look guess

820
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:34,559
what if you guys are like you know we

821
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:36,240
got a half a million dollars to burn

822
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:38,400
here yeah it looks like you know but if

823
01:04:38,400 --> 01:04:41,839
you have needs and fulfill the needs you

824
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:42,559
know

825
01:04:42,559 --> 01:04:43,920
people will be more than happy to keep

826
01:04:43,920 --> 01:04:45,760
those courts at the level that they need

827
01:04:45,760 --> 01:04:49,359
to be to hold those turns correct

828
01:04:49,359 --> 01:04:50,160
so

829
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:51,920
if we're moving forward with the central

830
01:04:51,920 --> 01:05:06,950
park tennis court

831
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,200
are not i'm not going to be going uh

832
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,400
most likely

833
01:05:10,400 --> 01:05:13,440
well i'm not going to say that

834
01:05:13,440 --> 01:05:15,520
if we did the lighting i don't know if

835
01:05:15,520 --> 01:05:17,280
i'd have to go into the courts or not i

836
01:05:17,280 --> 01:05:19,280
haven't looked that into that level you

837
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:20,960
know the idea was if we were going to do

838
01:05:20,960 --> 01:05:23,440
it we're going to do the lower 8 quarts

839
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:25,119
where it's very uniform light them on

840
01:05:25,119 --> 01:05:27,760
both sides and have an area that is lit

841
01:05:27,760 --> 01:05:30,319
quartz but once again we're coming down

842
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:32,000
towards your decision to where you want

843
01:05:32,000 --> 01:05:34,160
to go a diamond lighting i would have

844
01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,750
here tennis

845
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,680
because this is just putting things on a

846
01:05:39,680 --> 01:05:41,760
list of things that people have said

847
01:05:41,760 --> 01:05:44,799
that they would like to see

848
01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:48,160
and but but keep those tennis courts in

849
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,640
championship level is very important

850
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:51,680
because

851
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:56,710
they have and and the use

852
01:05:56,720 --> 01:05:58,319
um actually i have a question from mr

853
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:00,880
folden um so based on what mr wall is

854
01:06:00,880 --> 01:06:04,480
saying in terms of um if we let's say

855
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:06,799
allocated 500 thousand only spent 400

856
01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:08,480
000 on a project that we're very

857
01:06:08,480 --> 01:06:09,920
specific about

858
01:06:09,920 --> 01:06:11,599
um can the contract be written in such a

859
01:06:11,599 --> 01:06:13,599
way that we could just reallocate the

860
01:06:13,599 --> 01:06:15,200
money to something else the contract

861
01:06:15,200 --> 01:06:17,200
would have to come back to the council

862
01:06:17,200 --> 01:06:19,200
to begin with so there had to be a

863
01:06:19,200 --> 01:06:20,799
reappropriation of the funds that would

864
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:22,079
certainly happen at the same time

865
01:06:22,079 --> 01:06:23,680
councils

866
01:06:23,680 --> 01:06:26,960
taking on uh authorizing the contract

867
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:28,319
there would be questions on whether or

868
01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:30,559
not certain funds obviously qualify for

869
01:06:30,559 --> 01:06:33,200
use of the arpa funding

870
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:34,640
i believe

871
01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:36,319
i'm sorry i just i'm specifically

872
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:38,319
speaking about parks projects which

873
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:39,440
right but

874
01:06:39,440 --> 01:06:41,599
mr wallin said maybe we can use it for

875
01:06:41,599 --> 01:06:43,680
other things related to it depending on

876
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,280
what those other things are be a

877
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:46,559
question on whether or not those would

878
01:06:46,559 --> 01:06:48,160
actually follow you know within the part

879
01:06:48,160 --> 01:06:50,480
sometimes whether they would qualify

880
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:51,839
you know we would have to get into the

881
01:06:51,839 --> 01:06:53,520
nitty-gritty of it to know what those

882
01:06:53,520 --> 01:06:54,960
other things are

883
01:06:54,960 --> 01:06:58,319
um that being said um you can certainly

884
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:00,000
you know it's up to the council on how

885
01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:01,440
general wants to be in terms of

886
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:03,119
appropriating money now

887
01:07:03,119 --> 01:07:04,799
the council doesn't necessarily have to

888
01:07:04,799 --> 01:07:06,720
appropriate money obviously you can just

889
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,799
wait for you know things to go out to

890
01:07:08,799 --> 01:07:11,280
bid the problem with that obviously is

891
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,960
something you know mr well put something

892
01:07:12,960 --> 01:07:15,039
out to bid it comes back and then

893
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:17,119
you know the console has to be on with

894
01:07:17,119 --> 01:07:19,280
one appropriating the funds for it uh

895
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,720
because it hasn't already been

896
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:22,880
appropriated and obviously going with a

897
01:07:22,880 --> 01:07:24,559
particular bid so that's why we would

898
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:26,240
appropriate it now

899
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:28,160
it can always be reappropriated later on

900
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,280
if not all of it gets used or let's say

901
01:07:31,280 --> 01:07:32,960
you know the council appropriates 500

902
01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:33,920
000

903
01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,319
it comes in over budget at 600 000

904
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:38,160
dollars but it's still the best deal we

905
01:07:38,160 --> 01:07:39,520
can find and we really want to move out

906
01:07:39,520 --> 01:07:41,119
of the project the council then can

907
01:07:41,119 --> 01:07:42,880
re-appropriate you know other funds

908
01:07:42,880 --> 01:07:44,160
we're going to take it from this project

909
01:07:44,160 --> 01:07:45,760
where maybe we haven't you know

910
01:07:45,760 --> 01:07:47,359
appropriated all the funds and we're

911
01:07:47,359 --> 01:07:49,599
going to appropriate an additional 100

912
01:07:49,599 --> 01:07:50,720
000

913
01:07:50,720 --> 01:07:52,720
council can certainly do that

914
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:55,280
that's exactly what i

915
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:56,079
love the wanted

916
01:07:56,079 --> 01:07:57,599
so we have a little bit of flexibility

917
01:07:57,599 --> 01:07:59,520
so that as we come to get the projects

918
01:07:59,520 --> 01:08:01,039
we actually can get them done complete

919
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:02,640
the projects and i'm sure if we really

920
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:04,480
drive dan in the development part we'd

921
01:08:04,480 --> 01:08:06,240
always have a little bit of cbg cushion

922
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:08,160
or you know i have some funds but the

923
01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,160
problem is is that you know it's your

924
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:12,559
point you know a lot of needs out there

925
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,280
so you can you can cover 50 000 maybe

926
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:17,600
but to cover half a million that's a you

927
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:20,000
know that that hurts the project message

928
01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:21,920
go ahead please thank you um the other

929
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,440
thing obviously is you know when you're

930
01:08:23,440 --> 01:08:25,040
getting close to the end of

931
01:08:25,040 --> 01:08:26,640
appropriating funds

932
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:27,920
you you know when you put something out

933
01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:29,279
debate it comes in higher than we

934
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,359
anticipated we will need to have that

935
01:08:31,359 --> 01:08:32,640
pusher if we want to move it out of the

936
01:08:32,640 --> 01:08:35,520
project but we only have 500 000 left

937
01:08:35,520 --> 01:08:38,159
and this is a 600 000 bid payment we

938
01:08:38,159 --> 01:08:40,000
would have to find if we want to move

939
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:42,400
ahead find the funds so to speak uh to

940
01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,719
get that project done

941
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:46,960
so whether that's cdbg monies or

942
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,400
something else that's you know a

943
01:08:48,400 --> 01:09:00,870
question you know really for finance

944
01:09:00,880 --> 01:09:03,839
[Music]

945
01:09:03,839 --> 01:09:06,640
level i think is really important

946
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:08,880
you know uh gerry's income into the city

947
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:09,920
as well

948
01:09:09,920 --> 01:09:11,839
tournaments there so i think that's you

949
01:09:11,839 --> 01:09:13,520
know i would say that that's important

950
01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:14,560
um

951
01:09:14,560 --> 01:09:16,000
but it seems like that five hundred

952
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:17,440
thousand dollars for lightning on the

953
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:18,719
court

954
01:09:18,719 --> 01:09:29,829
sorry 400

955
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:31,279
and then

956
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:32,880
at least that would be my

957
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:46,950
suggestion

958
01:09:46,960 --> 01:09:48,159
the discussion on the center park

959
01:09:48,159 --> 01:09:50,950
testing

960
01:09:50,960 --> 01:09:52,560
that's probably

961
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:54,560
you want to say anything on that or this

962
01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,239
tutorial

963
01:09:56,239 --> 01:09:59,040
so how people forward this you know i'm

964
01:09:59,040 --> 01:10:00,719
good right now

965
01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:03,440
holding it off for this

966
01:10:03,440 --> 01:10:05,600
um so the four hundred thousand dollars

967
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,120
for the lighting i'm again if if

968
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,040
mr vollen places it way down here i'm

969
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:12,960
wondering why it even ended up here but

970
01:10:12,960 --> 01:10:14,239
that's okay

971
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:18,630
um

972
01:10:18,640 --> 01:10:22,159
for consideration um again it would be a

973
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:24,000
you know i know the importance of those

974
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:25,679
courts over there i can't believe the

975
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:28,080
amount of use they get um and i know a

976
01:10:28,080 --> 01:10:30,800
lot of people who do do tennis and they hold

977
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:32,880
tournaments over there and i knew i know

978
01:10:32,880 --> 01:10:36,719
the new guidelines for a pay uh scale

979
01:10:36,719 --> 01:10:39,440
for using the courts is a great revenue

980
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:41,760
and i think at some point i mean if they

981
01:10:41,760 --> 01:10:43,440
want to go tournaments at night which

982
01:10:43,440 --> 01:10:45,280
may happen

983
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:47,120
we could we could definitely use the

984
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,000
lighting at this point yes oh no that's

985
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:51,520
what i was going to get at is that i

986
01:10:51,520 --> 01:10:53,120
can't stress enough the importance of

987
01:10:53,120 --> 01:10:55,440
really getting that parts committee back

988
01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,360
and having some of these decisions

989
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,280
discussions openly because here's my

990
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,120
issue

991
01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,960
i have to put these recommendations out

992
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,199
there and try not to act like i'm hiding

993
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:07,280
things right we had a meeting with the

994
01:11:07,280 --> 01:11:09,520
parks people lighting came up we were

995
01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,440
talking about parks projects there was a

996
01:11:11,440 --> 01:11:13,760
lot of support for tennis in general i

997
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,480
put it on the list that number is a dart

998
01:11:16,480 --> 01:11:18,560
at a board because

999
01:11:18,560 --> 01:11:20,640
the reason for that is that it's based

1000
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:21,920
off of what i've learned from the a

1001
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,280
diamond lighting and talking with their

1002
01:11:23,280 --> 01:11:24,960
sports division these lights are going

1003
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:26,800
to be shorter they're not going to be

1004
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:29,199
baseball style lights however you know i

1005
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:31,120
did not have detailed conversations

1006
01:11:31,120 --> 01:11:33,440
about how many ports really do we need

1007
01:11:33,440 --> 01:11:35,600
to light the most effective seem to be

1008
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:38,560
the most smallest compact 810 cords

1009
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:40,400
there however

1010
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:41,600
what if they said you know what we just

1011
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:43,600
want to do four cores the tennis

1012
01:11:43,600 --> 01:11:45,040
community only needs

1013
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:47,040
five we could you can shrink it up more

1014
01:11:47,040 --> 01:11:49,520
or we can move so

1015
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:51,440
that's my issue as an engineer standing

1016
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:55,280
up here is that it is a it's a nice idea

1017
01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,120
it will really benefit some because some

1018
01:11:57,120 --> 01:11:58,960
people can only play at night we're

1019
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:01,120
getting into darker hours the weather's

1020
01:12:01,120 --> 01:12:03,120
still nice but the sunlight is not there

1021
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:05,120
but it would be nice to have

1022
01:12:05,120 --> 01:12:06,560
more of that

1023
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:09,040
sounding board other than myself and

1024
01:12:09,040 --> 01:12:11,760
some city staff trying to you know just

1025
01:12:11,760 --> 01:12:13,280
assume what do you think the best would

1026
01:12:13,280 --> 01:12:17,030
be for the city

1027
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:19,679
go ahead please um so i also i would

1028
01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:20,960
recommend

1029
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:22,480
that if we're talking about tennis and

1030
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:23,600
lighting that we would maybe have

1031
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:25,360
somebody from the usta or the group that

1032
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:27,360
uses it out there to be part of that

1033
01:12:27,360 --> 01:12:30,159
conversation because they know best ways

1034
01:12:30,159 --> 01:12:31,840
with needed so and that's where the

1035
01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:33,600
conversation came from

1036
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:38,560
but it wasn't from a necessarily it was more of the fact is that we run

1037
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,040
so many instructional events there in

1038
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:43,199
tournaments that it was really the

1039
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:45,199
thought was okay well what if you were a

1040
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:47,280
resident you just wanted to play and you

1041
01:12:47,280 --> 01:12:49,679
feel like you can't get onto the courts

1042
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:50,960
well you know what

1043
01:12:50,960 --> 01:12:52,640
now you can we're giving you the ability

1044
01:12:52,640 --> 01:12:55,520
to go out there and play

1045
01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:57,360
but

1046
01:12:57,360 --> 01:12:58,320
and

1047
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,280
as well as some schools practicing their

1048
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:03,760
um you know their availability the youth

1049
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:06,960
to get on the courts i live around uh

1050
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:09,120
community college and i mean those

1051
01:13:09,120 --> 01:13:11,360
courts are night you know day and night

1052
01:13:11,360 --> 01:13:12,960
being used by

1053
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:15,199
right on union avenue by the college and

1054
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:16,560
i'm sure there's

1055
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:20,159
you know so again uh at at this point

1056
01:13:20,159 --> 01:13:21,679
you know

1057
01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:22,719
i'd say

1058
01:13:22,719 --> 01:13:24,880
we're working on the parts

1059
01:13:24,880 --> 01:13:36,470
i would say i would go

1060
01:13:36,480 --> 01:13:39,600
um b diamond needs irrigation there's

1061
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:40,480
youth

1062
01:13:40,480 --> 01:13:43,280
uh leads that need new fences around

1063
01:13:43,280 --> 01:13:44,560
them

1064
01:13:44,560 --> 01:13:47,040
that hundred thousand dollars would go

1065
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:48,239
very far

1066
01:13:48,239 --> 01:13:50,880
to make sure all that happens

1067
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,120
and uh i think that would be a much

1068
01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:54,719
better use of that money

1069
01:13:54,719 --> 01:13:56,080
um

1070
01:13:56,080 --> 01:13:58,480
the b diamond is part of the facility of

1071
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:01,040
a b and c diamonds of bringing a money c

1072
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:02,400
diamond has

1073
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,640
irrigation b diamond doesn't

1074
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:07,280
a dominant of course is

1075
01:14:07,280 --> 01:14:10,149
uh

1076
01:14:10,159 --> 01:14:12,239
um there's the bellevue little league

1077
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:13,120
field

1078
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,920
who's being used for youth activities

1079
01:14:15,920 --> 01:14:17,360
certainly could use

1080
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,080
new fencing i'm sure the babe ruth field

1081
01:14:20,080 --> 01:14:23,360
the soccer field could use new fencing

1082
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:25,600
i'd rather see the 400 000 go towards

1083
01:14:25,600 --> 01:14:34,950
that

1084
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:36,560
is that an estimated price or that's

1085
01:14:36,560 --> 01:14:39,679
just that no that is estimated by

1086
01:14:39,679 --> 01:14:40,840
an

1087
01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:43,520
actual yeah so

1088
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:46,719
that is for uh collegiate level lighting

1089
01:14:46,719 --> 01:14:48,800
okay so there are two levels of lighting

1090
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:50,800
like three levels there's recreation

1091
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:51,840
there's collegiate and there's

1092
01:14:51,840 --> 01:14:53,040
professional

1093
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:54,800
collegiate level lighting is a higher

1094
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,400
standard and that's what we're looking

1095
01:14:56,400 --> 01:14:58,400
at because i mean the goal is to always

1096
01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:00,159
have you know college level teams

1097
01:15:00,159 --> 01:15:02,320
playing on a diamond to bring that there

1098
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,320
so we don't want to keep local colleges

1099
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:06,320
from being able to play at night so that

1100
01:15:06,320 --> 01:15:08,880
is their estimate to do that would you

1101
01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:10,239
mind getting an estimate for us in

1102
01:15:10,239 --> 01:15:12,480
regards to the central part of tennis

1103
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,960
uh very bad class because

1104
01:15:14,960 --> 01:15:16,400
we can hold this for a couple of weeks

1105
01:15:16,400 --> 01:15:18,000
the next rounds and we can continue to

1106
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:19,440
discuss this

1107
01:15:19,440 --> 01:15:21,440
come back

1108
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:26,550
sorry i'm going to say it there is

1109
01:15:26,560 --> 01:15:28,640
like for instance the a diamond has had

1110
01:15:28,640 --> 01:15:30,400
lights so what we're talking about is

1111
01:15:30,400 --> 01:15:33,040
reestablishing lights whereas the tennis

1112
01:15:33,040 --> 01:15:35,040
court has never had lights so we're

1113
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:36,880
talking i mean we're talking about

1114
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:38,800
bringing in new service new transformers

1115
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:40,800
we can do all that i'm just that's also

1116
01:15:40,800 --> 01:15:43,280
part of it is

1117
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:47,040
just writing for uh i think we can hold

1118
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:52,790
it until anymore

1119
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,600
um so listening to mr palmini obviously

1120
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:57,120
he knows a lot more about the parks

1121
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:59,600
program um

1122
01:15:59,600 --> 01:16:01,280
who needs irrigation who needs what i

1123
01:16:01,280 --> 01:16:02,640
mean how can we

1124
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:04,000
find out

1125
01:16:04,000 --> 01:16:05,360
all the parks i mean i have a little

1126
01:16:05,360 --> 01:16:08,080
park on south avenue that's a little

1127
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:10,159
it you know my bring my granddaughter

1128
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:11,520
over there

1129
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:13,120
right but i don't even know if it has a

1130
01:16:13,120 --> 01:16:15,600
name i've been asking for no smoking

1131
01:16:15,600 --> 01:16:17,040
for a year

1132
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:18,000
um

1133
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,760
like you said asking for more smoking

1134
01:16:19,760 --> 01:16:21,679
scientists to you know

1135
01:16:21,679 --> 01:16:24,159
but where where can we find out you know

1136
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:26,239
who has a list of all the parks and what

1137
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:28,480
the parks may need and be diamond and

1138
01:16:28,480 --> 01:16:30,480
sea diamond and you know songs from

1139
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:34,790
talking park

1140
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,080
i saw a little park the other day i

1141
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:37,280
don't remember what it was and i said to

1142
01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:39,040
my daughter oh that's such a sad excuse

1143
01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,360
for a park here in this city

1144
01:16:41,360 --> 01:16:43,520
um had a couple of swings i don't even

1145
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:47,669
remember where it was but yeah

1146
01:16:47,679 --> 01:16:49,760
so mr wong is that something that the

1147
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:51,920
recreation advising communities

1148
01:16:51,920 --> 01:16:52,960
um

1149
01:16:52,960 --> 01:16:55,040
in terms of what's needed in the parts

1150
01:16:55,040 --> 01:16:56,880
of that i remember you know several

1151
01:16:56,880 --> 01:16:58,159
years ago we went through something

1152
01:16:58,159 --> 01:16:59,840
similar where they went out they

1153
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,679
assessed the parks and it ended up

1154
01:17:01,679 --> 01:17:03,840
having some improvements so

1155
01:17:03,840 --> 01:17:05,679
what to mr

1156
01:17:05,679 --> 01:17:07,280
is that something that the committee

1157
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:08,960
would then um i know it's a group of

1158
01:17:08,960 --> 01:17:10,880
volunteers

1159
01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:12,159
i believe

1160
01:17:12,159 --> 01:17:14,840
a city staff member did do that in

1161
01:17:14,840 --> 01:17:15,760
development i don't know if it was

1162
01:17:15,760 --> 01:17:17,840
matter or not years ago we went and

1163
01:17:17,840 --> 01:17:20,080
assessed kind of what was there working

1164
01:17:20,080 --> 01:17:22,320
with some of the parts that but

1165
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,159
the recreation advisory

1166
01:17:24,159 --> 01:17:25,360
they actually did the assessment

1167
01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:43,110
themselves

1168
01:17:43,120 --> 01:17:45,199
you know the staff has been doing it

1169
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:47,280
we don't have a great

1170
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:50,480
summary we do know the needs uh i think

1171
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:53,920
mr mutaveron's point but drought park

1172
01:17:53,920 --> 01:17:55,360
you may say south

1173
01:17:55,360 --> 01:17:58,239
park is forgotten but

1174
01:17:58,239 --> 01:18:00,800
is probably 25 times the size

1175
01:18:00,800 --> 01:18:03,679
and it is in probably worse

1176
01:18:03,679 --> 01:18:05,280
you know and we did you know one of the

1177
01:18:05,280 --> 01:18:06,880
issues with this part like that too is

1178
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:09,280
investments were made we have a

1179
01:18:09,280 --> 01:18:12,239
very um well-built uh structure there

1180
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:14,960
that was used for uh for sports and that

1181
01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,080
remains

1182
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,400
but otherwise you know

1183
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:21,920
it is kind of been let go and

1184
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,679
it's just stacking levels and things it

1185
01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:24,880
says and the other part of it is it's

1186
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:26,719
much like this to be long-winded with

1187
01:18:26,719 --> 01:18:28,480
all this it's much like the casino

1188
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:30,239
building in central park

1189
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:33,199
if you don't have a use and you don't

1190
01:18:33,199 --> 01:18:35,440
have a purpose

1191
01:18:35,440 --> 01:18:36,560
then

1192
01:18:36,560 --> 01:18:38,640
it's it's hard to keep making the

1193
01:18:38,640 --> 01:18:41,280
investment i know that some uh cricket

1194
01:18:41,280 --> 01:18:43,280
has been played there but i also know

1195
01:18:43,280 --> 01:18:45,679
it's a little small sometimes right

1196
01:18:45,679 --> 01:19:07,590
isn't it the size small graph part

1197
01:19:07,600 --> 01:19:09,440
i know the projects i'm working on but

1198
01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:11,520
i'm usually focused in transportation

1199
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:13,199
projects yeah

1200
01:19:13,199 --> 01:19:14,719
that's one reason why i imagine it's

1201
01:19:14,719 --> 01:19:16,480
time it's um it's probably an immense

1202
01:19:16,480 --> 01:19:18,159
assignment so it's a good opportunity

1203
01:19:18,159 --> 01:19:20,000
when we go to the next round

1204
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:22,560
next discussion we should add these two

1205
01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,719
parts into consideration

1206
01:19:24,719 --> 01:19:27,040
because it needs to be taken care of

1207
01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:28,880
so what i recommend if there's an

1208
01:19:28,880 --> 01:19:30,960
objection i will hold the cyclone

1209
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,960
central park tennis court lighting on

1210
01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:34,159
chill

1211
01:19:34,159 --> 01:19:36,320
we proceeded

1212
01:19:36,320 --> 01:19:38,560
and then we can also discuss

1213
01:19:38,560 --> 01:19:42,719
the b and c dino is that correct

1214
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:44,880
c diamond has the irrigation

1215
01:19:44,880 --> 01:19:47,040
b diamond would require

1216
01:19:47,040 --> 01:20:01,750
let's say twenty thousand dollars per

1217
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:04,239
mr williams you mentioned a millionaire

1218
01:20:04,239 --> 01:20:06,719
being a located so central park general

1219
01:20:06,719 --> 01:20:09,360
psych improvement

1220
01:20:09,360 --> 01:20:10,880
i know i'm coming to you but i just want

1221
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:12,639
to like since you're getting a part we

1222
01:20:12,639 --> 01:20:14,800
just can cover that one item and then

1223
01:20:14,800 --> 01:20:16,400
move around to you

1224
01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:21,030
honestly i mentioned that

1225
01:20:21,040 --> 01:20:22,880
what i was saying is that when um in

1226
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,239
discussions

1227
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:25,840
with miss patrick she was talking about

1228
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:26,719
the parts

1229
01:20:26,719 --> 01:20:28,400
and then having um discussions that

1230
01:20:28,400 --> 01:20:30,719
other council owners um did send

1231
01:20:30,719 --> 01:20:32,960
information so the um

1232
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:35,040
what i what the final number was one

1233
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:38,080
million which would bring us up to the

1234
01:20:38,080 --> 01:20:39,440
um

1235
01:20:39,440 --> 01:20:43,040
the 5.5 because the initial act was 5.5

1236
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:44,159
and at this point in time we've

1237
01:20:44,159 --> 01:20:47,520
allocated 4.5 so allocating the million

1238
01:20:47,520 --> 01:20:49,760
would bring us up to the original

1239
01:20:49,760 --> 01:20:51,760
assets

1240
01:20:51,760 --> 01:20:55,669
from the mayor's office

1241
01:20:55,679 --> 01:21:12,950
discussion of that

1242
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,000
seeing that i will then move forward to

1243
01:21:16,000 --> 01:21:18,000
make a recommendation that we add a

1244
01:21:18,000 --> 01:21:21,990
million dollars to the

1245
01:21:22,000 --> 01:21:40,390
central park general site improvements

1246
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:45,350
this is

1247
01:21:45,360 --> 01:21:47,760
all right um before we go i think we

1248
01:21:47,760 --> 01:21:49,360
finish off the parks here i think we

1249
01:21:49,360 --> 01:21:50,960
pretty much captured everything except

1250
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:53,360
for the michigan avenue

1251
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,199
and the

1252
01:21:55,199 --> 01:21:56,560
tennis

1253
01:21:56,560 --> 01:21:59,520
court lighting

1254
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:01,280
i just want to make sure did that

1255
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:05,430
include the 500 000

1256
01:22:05,440 --> 01:22:22,229
yes

1257
01:22:22,239 --> 01:22:25,440
500 000. central park tennis court

1258
01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:27,679
improvements 500 000

1259
01:22:27,679 --> 01:22:31,199
riverside park courts 250 000 jerry

1260
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:33,679
burrell 500 000 and then the central

1261
01:22:33,679 --> 01:22:36,320
park general site improvements adding a

1262
01:22:36,320 --> 01:22:38,480
million dollars all together that comes

1263
01:22:38,480 --> 01:22:41,520
up to 3.5 million

1264
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,360
thank you

1265
01:22:43,360 --> 01:22:45,920
uh i made a decided comment from

1266
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,520
michigan avenue

1267
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,159
yes i am going to try on getting the

1268
01:22:50,159 --> 01:22:51,679
sports

1269
01:22:51,679 --> 01:22:54,239
is i went to michigan avenue and i

1270
01:22:54,239 --> 01:22:56,800
believe the corn was in better shape

1271
01:22:56,800 --> 01:22:59,199
than i originally thought there's just

1272
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:01,760
two large cracks so i'm meeting with the

1273
01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,040
vendor to see if the cracks can be

1274
01:23:05,040 --> 01:23:09,360
open filled and smoothed the cost may be

1275
01:23:09,360 --> 01:23:11,360
a lot lower so i'm going to try to get a

1276
01:23:11,360 --> 01:23:13,760
couple of hardened numbers because we

1277
01:23:13,760 --> 01:23:15,600
may be able to just

1278
01:23:15,600 --> 01:23:16,560
either

1279
01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:18,560
you know yeah i'm just i just wanted we

1280
01:23:18,560 --> 01:23:20,800
might be able to get michigan what i

1281
01:23:20,800 --> 01:23:23,120
learned at our meeting was that michigan

1282
01:23:23,120 --> 01:23:26,159
avenue and central park they are they do

1283
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:28,320
this they already worked together they

1284
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,840
did not know that

1285
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:31,440
the usda when they hold their seven

1286
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:32,880
events bring so many people that they

1287
01:23:32,880 --> 01:23:36,080
run satellite rounds at michigan avenue

1288
01:23:36,080 --> 01:23:38,400
while using the central park courts

1289
01:23:38,400 --> 01:23:41,520
so that's where that 500 000 may be

1290
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,360
possible call that

1291
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:46,000
central slash michigan and use it for

1292
01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:46,880
both

1293
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:50,159
and just get the tournament courts up

1294
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:51,840
and i think that is something like

1295
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,000
mentally when we get together we talk

1296
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,480
with

1297
01:23:55,480 --> 01:23:58,159
a new parks director in the parks

1298
01:23:58,159 --> 01:23:59,840
committee is maybe we make that

1299
01:23:59,840 --> 01:24:02,159
designation in our heads that central

1300
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:04,080
park and michigan are the city's turning

1301
01:24:04,080 --> 01:24:06,239
reporters and then we have another level

1302
01:24:06,239 --> 01:24:08,560
that is refrigeration for us just to

1303
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:11,199
make that difference

1304
01:24:11,199 --> 01:24:13,360
because i didn't realize that michigan

1305
01:24:13,360 --> 01:24:15,760
was used at that capacity but for them

1306
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,760
to bring in that statewide tournament

1307
01:24:17,760 --> 01:24:19,440
seven times a year i guess they need

1308
01:24:19,440 --> 01:24:21,600
both so that was um but they can't use

1309
01:24:21,600 --> 01:24:23,920
it right now because it's a very long

1310
01:24:23,920 --> 01:24:27,199
large crack but it's it's

1311
01:24:27,199 --> 01:24:29,120
an asphalt usually when you have a crack

1312
01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:32,000
it goes everywhere this crack is about

1313
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:35,760
as straight as an arrow so i think

1314
01:24:35,760 --> 01:24:37,440
it will be easier to

1315
01:24:37,440 --> 01:24:40,629
fix

1316
01:24:40,639 --> 01:24:42,320
but i'll get back

1317
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:45,120
thank you

1318
01:24:45,120 --> 01:24:46,800
so um

1319
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,040
one of my recommendations um one of this

1320
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:50,400
did come one of those pieces from the

1321
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:54,560
mayor the 750 000 for bcni for the co

1322
01:24:54,560 --> 01:24:57,520
thank you for coming recovering for

1323
01:24:57,520 --> 01:24:59,199
surgery prevention that that amount

1324
01:24:59,199 --> 01:25:01,120
would be 250 000

1325
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,440
and then um

1326
01:25:03,440 --> 01:25:06,560
that's part of the seven 150 000.

1327
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:07,920
so you're right

1328
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:10,239
750

1329
01:25:10,239 --> 01:25:15,510
i'm breaking it up

1330
01:25:15,520 --> 01:25:18,239
250 000 would be for foreclosure

1331
01:25:18,239 --> 01:25:20,159
prevention it's uh something they've

1332
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:21,679
been doing for a while

1333
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:24,960
and also the uh there's another project

1334
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:26,800
the hamilton hill infield development

1335
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:28,800
project for five hundred thousand

1336
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,080
um that's they both are asks um they did

1337
01:25:32,080 --> 01:25:34,719
have four asks they took one off

1338
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:36,639
and i would also recommend the one name

1339
01:25:36,639 --> 01:25:39,520
for the owner occupied rehab

1340
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,920
vacant houses project

1341
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:44,239
but with that i would also like to

1342
01:25:44,239 --> 01:25:48,239
ask that they work with mr

1343
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:49,840
ron

1344
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:52,159
gardner to make sure that the people in

1345
01:25:52,159 --> 01:25:54,719
the program that he works with are

1346
01:25:54,719 --> 01:25:56,719
people who and that they end up working

1347
01:25:56,719 --> 01:25:59,360
on as part of doing part of that project

1348
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,360
so we come up with a community benefits

1349
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,120
agreement to make sure that they're

1350
01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:04,719
included

1351
01:26:04,719 --> 01:26:06,080
as part of that

1352
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:07,920
since there's been a lot of discussion

1353
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:10,159
regarding making sure that people who

1354
01:26:10,159 --> 01:26:12,080
live within the city get to work within

1355
01:26:12,080 --> 01:26:17,040
the city um i think that we should that therefore that helps a project that

1356
01:26:17,040 --> 01:26:19,679
the city is already doing in terms of um

1357
01:26:19,679 --> 01:26:21,920
ron gardner's what ron garner is doing

1358
01:26:21,920 --> 01:26:24,560
and also it lets us get um some owner

1359
01:26:24,560 --> 01:26:27,199
occupied um rehab

1360
01:26:27,199 --> 01:26:30,229
done

1361
01:26:30,239 --> 01:26:31,920
so i was i would like to recommend one

1362
01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:33,679
of my new towards that

1363
01:26:33,679 --> 01:26:36,560
so it's total 1.7 million for the bcni

1364
01:26:36,560 --> 01:26:38,480
they did have four projects but the last

1365
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:40,159
one i'm not i'm not recommending that

1366
01:26:40,159 --> 01:26:42,239
one

1367
01:26:42,239 --> 01:26:44,570
um i think did i say the um

1368
01:26:44,570 --> 01:26:45,760
[Music]

1369
01:26:45,760 --> 01:26:47,760
city hall hvac project

1370
01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,520
before this one recap

1371
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:53,610
taking

1372
01:26:53,620 --> 01:27:03,350
[Music]

1373
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,760
development project and they won million

1374
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:08,400
dollars for the

1375
01:27:08,400 --> 01:27:13,270
owner occupy rehab yes okay

1376
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:14,960
but also like like i said with that i

1377
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:16,400
want to make sure that there's a

1378
01:27:16,400 --> 01:27:18,320
benefits agreement so that they're

1379
01:27:18,320 --> 01:27:20,320
working directly with ron's program and

1380
01:27:20,320 --> 01:27:22,320
using the um

1381
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:23,840
the people that he's working with

1382
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,239
because currently what's happening is

1383
01:27:26,239 --> 01:27:28,320
as they graduate the other program then

1384
01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:30,639
he moves them on to firms so this would

1385
01:27:30,639 --> 01:27:32,719
be an opportunity for them to

1386
01:27:32,719 --> 01:27:37,990
work on some city projects as well

1387
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:39,760
so for attaching something like a

1388
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,560
contingency to this study

1389
01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,880
if this were to be true

1390
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,250
attaching

1391
01:27:47,250 --> 01:27:52,550
[Music]

1392
01:27:52,560 --> 01:27:54,719
so because it's not determined by the

1393
01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:57,120
outside funding agency like we had with

1394
01:27:57,120 --> 01:27:58,639
i think somebody who's looking for

1395
01:27:58,639 --> 01:28:00,159
funding from i think maybe stephanie

1396
01:28:00,159 --> 01:28:02,560
foundation here it just goes right into

1397
01:28:02,560 --> 01:28:04,719
the contract

1398
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:08,149
that'll be my recommendation

1399
01:28:08,159 --> 01:28:11,120
5.25 right now okay

1400
01:28:11,120 --> 01:28:26,830
is city hall hvac in there

1401
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:30,960
okay and um finally um for we've been

1402
01:28:30,960 --> 01:28:33,360
talking about food insecurity and we've

1403
01:28:33,360 --> 01:28:34,719
already funded some of them but i would

1404
01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:36,960
like to um suggest we

1405
01:28:36,960 --> 01:28:41,120
find one made into the electric city um

1406
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:51,590
food pillow

1407
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:53,199
and i let me just add that i know that

1408
01:28:53,199 --> 01:28:56,080
the county is currently putting on rfp

1409
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:56,880
to

1410
01:28:56,880 --> 01:28:59,520
have a supermarket come to the old

1411
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:01,679
mohawk honda on state street which kind

1412
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:04,000
of addresses the

1413
01:29:04,000 --> 01:29:06,239
supermarket in that particular area but

1414
01:29:06,239 --> 01:29:08,080
my understanding of electric city would

1415
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,400
be this would be downtown so that people

1416
01:29:10,400 --> 01:29:12,000
downtown will also have access to

1417
01:29:12,000 --> 01:29:13,679
supermarkets so that is my

1418
01:29:13,679 --> 01:29:23,130
recommendation

1419
01:29:23,140 --> 01:29:34,790
[Music]

1420
01:29:34,800 --> 01:29:49,510
is

1421
01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:56,070
yeah everything running nonetheless yeah

1422
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,000
can you go down your list again i'm

1423
01:29:58,000 --> 01:30:01,600
sorry oh i'll get anywhere else

1424
01:30:01,600 --> 01:30:04,239
go ahead please um so phil has parked

1425
01:30:04,239 --> 01:30:05,679
500

1426
01:30:05,679 --> 01:30:08,320
250 a diamond 500

1427
01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:11,360
central park tennis courts 500 riverside

1428
01:30:11,360 --> 01:30:14,239
park quartz 250 jerry burrell

1429
01:30:14,239 --> 01:30:17,840
500 that's 2.5 right there

1430
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:21,199
adding to the central park general site

1431
01:30:21,199 --> 01:30:23,840
work adding a million dollars to that

1432
01:30:23,840 --> 01:30:27,520
uh bcni all together 1.75 million made

1433
01:30:27,520 --> 01:30:30,880
up of 250 for foreclosure prevention 500

1434
01:30:30,880 --> 01:30:34,719
for the infill 1 million for the repair

1435
01:30:34,719 --> 01:30:37,280
and rehab program

1436
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:41,440
city hall h b ac 352 000

1437
01:30:41,440 --> 01:30:42,400
and then

1438
01:30:42,400 --> 01:30:55,850
the co-op 1 million

1439
01:30:55,860 --> 01:31:14,830
[Music]

1440
01:31:14,840 --> 01:31:16,239
um so we're just kind of recapping the

1441
01:31:16,239 --> 01:31:18,719
facts that we brought forward earlier

1442
01:31:18,719 --> 01:31:20,880
yeah we mentioned that earlier so we

1443
01:31:20,880 --> 01:31:23,199
have it we're going to make notes

1444
01:31:23,199 --> 01:31:25,840
and write a project description and then

1445
01:31:25,840 --> 01:31:28,400
here we are in terms of discussions

1446
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:30,080
so um i

1447
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,880
brought forth our hamilton art center

1448
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,940
i have 1.2 million dollars

1449
01:31:35,940 --> 01:31:41,189
[Music]

1450
01:31:41,199 --> 01:31:45,120
the cocoa house at 500 dollars

1451
01:31:45,120 --> 01:31:48,790
boys and girls club cubby

1452
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:50,719
you're really really fast man boys and

1453
01:31:50,719 --> 01:31:54,639
girls club 331

1454
01:31:54,639 --> 01:32:08,629
408 voice in here as well

1455
01:32:08,639 --> 01:32:10,800
excellent

1456
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:21,630
and

1457
01:32:21,640 --> 01:32:25,590
[Music]

1458
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:27,280
that's

1459
01:32:27,280 --> 01:32:52,310
true

1460
01:32:52,320 --> 01:33:13,240
is

1461
01:33:13,250 --> 01:33:29,270
[Music]

1462
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,000
so

1463
01:33:31,000 --> 01:34:02,070
[Music]

1464
01:34:02,080 --> 01:34:04,480
is 2 million

1465
01:34:04,480 --> 01:34:07,040
1.2 million for hamilton center

1466
01:34:07,040 --> 01:34:09,760
333

1467
01:34:09,760 --> 01:34:31,750
for voice of your squad and 500.000

1468
01:34:31,760 --> 01:34:34,159
and the boys and girls club

1469
01:34:34,159 --> 01:34:35,679
yes so they're

1470
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:37,840
i only see them on here for

1471
01:34:37,840 --> 01:34:39,679
37 000.

1472
01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:41,360
so is there something am i missing

1473
01:34:41,360 --> 01:34:43,920
something under facilities or facilities

1474
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:50,070
i'm sorry okay oh

1475
01:34:50,080 --> 01:34:54,709
okay

1476
01:34:54,719 --> 01:34:57,040
city what's on that right there i tried

1477
01:34:57,040 --> 01:35:08,870
it i made mine big years yeah

1478
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:11,280
oh full scale i'm sorry

1479
01:35:11,280 --> 01:35:16,149
yeah sorry

1480
01:35:16,159 --> 01:35:19,199
okay so that's so that's uh for the

1481
01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:20,400
facilities

1482
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:23,600
project not the youth project that they

1483
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:26,080
had something in for okay i'm sorry they

1484
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:40,390
actually do

1485
01:35:40,400 --> 01:35:41,679
i didn't know that so that was still on

1486
01:35:41,679 --> 01:35:42,800
my list

1487
01:35:42,800 --> 01:35:44,239
okay

1488
01:35:44,239 --> 01:35:46,480
i'm good there now

1489
01:35:46,480 --> 01:35:50,629
any other discussion on this

1490
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:53,199
all right so move forward with these and

1491
01:35:53,199 --> 01:35:56,080
just recap mr clothing 1.2 million for

1492
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:58,440
hamilton art center

1493
01:35:58,440 --> 01:36:01,520
333 408 31

1494
01:36:01,520 --> 01:36:05,040
400 for boys and girls and 500k for coco

1495
01:36:05,040 --> 01:36:17,910
that will give us 8.6340

1496
01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,199
so i had both ywca projects the one

1497
01:36:21,199 --> 01:36:23,119
which was the urgent needs which was on

1498
01:36:23,119 --> 01:36:24,960
the mayor's recommendation

1499
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,679
and the second which is uh you know i

1500
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:29,440
mentioned i'm sorry about the project so

1501
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:31,199
if that's a quote they can

1502
01:36:31,199 --> 01:36:34,960
make notes apologies 364 000 for the

1503
01:36:34,960 --> 01:36:38,239
ywca urgent needs

1504
01:36:38,239 --> 01:36:40,800
three six to four is it either

1505
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:49,910
364 449 49.

1506
01:36:49,920 --> 01:36:54,960
then 750 000 for the ywca's uh other

1507
01:36:54,960 --> 01:36:56,400
project it's

1508
01:36:56,400 --> 01:37:00,550
centers around uh transient housing

1509
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:02,239
what was the name again sorry

1510
01:37:02,239 --> 01:37:06,149
7 1500

1511
01:37:06,159 --> 01:37:11,520
the next is 76 000 for proctors

1512
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:12,560
even

1513
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:15,030
correct

1514
01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:18,560
the next is 10 000 for the and i

1515
01:37:18,560 --> 01:37:25,830
apologize for my pronunciation kiwanis

1516
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,040
and the last is 750 000

1517
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:41,270
for the stockade pump station

1518
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:44,480
and for that one that's uh

1519
01:37:44,480 --> 01:37:46,560
their plans are to reappropriate

1520
01:37:46,560 --> 01:37:49,520
the old pump station building their

1521
01:37:49,520 --> 01:37:53,360
original asset was for 1.5 million

1522
01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:56,400
however i think it's a considerable step

1523
01:37:56,400 --> 01:37:58,880
for the city to make

1524
01:37:58,880 --> 01:38:01,280
to allow them to get closer to the full

1525
01:38:01,280 --> 01:38:02,719
lasting

1526
01:38:02,719 --> 01:38:04,159
and um

1527
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:06,080
i know we made similar considerations to

1528
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:08,639
other projects of you need to raise the

1529
01:38:08,639 --> 01:38:09,840
money

1530
01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:11,840
and get into mr wallin's point of not

1531
01:38:11,840 --> 01:38:14,000
wanting to have fun projects they would

1532
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:15,360
need to

1533
01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:17,119
have a plan in place to fund or receive

1534
01:38:17,119 --> 01:38:18,719
funds for the remainder

1535
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:19,760
so i don't know we need to put a

1536
01:38:19,760 --> 01:38:22,080
contingency in place yes

1537
01:38:22,080 --> 01:38:23,119
so

1538
01:38:23,119 --> 01:38:25,040
on the stockhead project we'll have a

1539
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:26,400
contingency

1540
01:38:26,400 --> 01:38:29,440
in place based on them showing proof of

1541
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:31,199
additional funding

1542
01:38:31,199 --> 01:38:33,119
are we going to set up a timeline on

1543
01:38:33,119 --> 01:38:34,080
this

1544
01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,639
we'll just stock it under 750 no where

1545
01:38:36,639 --> 01:38:37,520
is it

1546
01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,280
here

1547
01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:41,040
is it it's in here

1548
01:38:41,040 --> 01:38:55,910
yeah that is for 1.5

1549
01:38:55,920 --> 01:38:57,199
i'm sorry

1550
01:38:57,199 --> 01:39:06,629
oh there it is okay of the 1.15 is that no

1551
01:39:06,639 --> 01:39:08,320
is that on this list

1552
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:16,709
that was in the packet

1553
01:39:16,719 --> 01:39:27,189
okay

1554
01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:29,679
a contingent on the rest of the funding

1555
01:39:29,679 --> 01:39:32,320
yes so the stockhead will be contingent

1556
01:39:32,320 --> 01:39:34,320
upon them or do you just want to

1557
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,800
appropriate the funds for them and when

1558
01:39:36,800 --> 01:39:54,470
they're ready

1559
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:56,400
they didn't specify that sort of

1560
01:39:56,400 --> 01:39:59,520
timeline any time

1561
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:18,149
no no big deal

1562
01:40:18,159 --> 01:40:19,520
yeah i think we need to attach a

1563
01:40:19,520 --> 01:40:21,360
timeline if we don't want to go home to

1564
01:40:21,360 --> 01:40:23,600
the end of 26th something we're seven

1565
01:40:23,600 --> 01:40:26,480
hundred thousand dollars is there and

1566
01:40:26,480 --> 01:40:28,000
we didn't spend it

1567
01:40:28,000 --> 01:40:29,119
so i think we need to give them a

1568
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:32,080
reasonable time like 12 months to go

1569
01:40:32,080 --> 01:40:45,510
seek additional funding for this project

1570
01:40:45,520 --> 01:41:03,030
this year which is a shorter timeline

1571
01:41:03,040 --> 01:41:03,679
and

1572
01:41:03,679 --> 01:41:04,960
here we are that we didn't spend the

1573
01:41:04,960 --> 01:41:08,629
money at 7.50

1574
01:41:08,639 --> 01:41:10,400
go ahead please and i agree with that

1575
01:41:10,400 --> 01:41:12,800
and so also part of that would be the

1576
01:41:12,800 --> 01:41:14,480
monitoring that's going to happen is

1577
01:41:14,480 --> 01:41:15,920
that they're doing this

1578
01:41:15,920 --> 01:41:17,840
um by the department of development and

1579
01:41:17,840 --> 01:41:20,159
perhaps there is need an additional need

1580
01:41:20,159 --> 01:41:22,480
for some support in that area

1581
01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:23,760
um

1582
01:41:23,760 --> 01:41:25,679
maybe we should talk about and that

1583
01:41:25,679 --> 01:41:27,760
means maybe not make this decision today

1584
01:41:27,760 --> 01:41:29,760
but we talk about bringing in support

1585
01:41:29,760 --> 01:41:31,520
some support that may be in the form of

1586
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,480
consultants because it's a um a very

1587
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:35,920
limited time so we don't want to bring

1588
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:37,840
on necessarily a staff person that's

1589
01:41:37,840 --> 01:41:40,159
there all the time but i think that this

1590
01:41:40,159 --> 01:41:42,239
is going to require a lot i know this is

1591
01:41:42,239 --> 01:41:44,239
going to require a lot of oversight

1592
01:41:44,239 --> 01:41:46,400
that's going to be above and beyond

1593
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,040
what our staff already have to do so i'm

1594
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,320
suggesting that we might want to

1595
01:41:50,320 --> 01:41:51,920
consider putting some money towards um

1596
01:41:51,920 --> 01:41:54,239
have a consultant to to help with that

1597
01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:55,360
um

1598
01:41:55,360 --> 01:41:57,280
this process as mr wallin spoke about he

1599
01:41:57,280 --> 01:41:59,679
uses consultants because

1600
01:41:59,679 --> 01:42:01,040
there just needs to be work to be done

1601
01:42:01,040 --> 01:42:02,400
that we don't necessarily aren't fully

1602
01:42:02,400 --> 01:42:04,639
staffed to do

1603
01:42:04,639 --> 01:42:06,320
so i think we should be considering that

1604
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:08,560
i don't have an issue

1605
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:10,560
lending them support but at the same

1606
01:42:10,560 --> 01:42:12,000
time i would like to see a timeline

1607
01:42:12,000 --> 01:42:14,880
absolutely and that person would

1608
01:42:14,880 --> 01:42:16,080
the department

1609
01:42:16,080 --> 01:42:19,590
and would keep track of the timeline

1610
01:42:19,600 --> 01:42:21,440
go ahead so

1611
01:42:21,440 --> 01:42:22,320
um

1612
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,760
correct me if i'm wrong i was assuming that

1613
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:26,719
most

1614
01:42:26,719 --> 01:42:28,400
all the projects that when we enter an

1615
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:30,159
agreement with them there is

1616
01:42:30,159 --> 01:42:31,760
an established time

1617
01:42:31,760 --> 01:42:34,880
is it there i would say that and you

1618
01:42:34,880 --> 01:42:36,800
know there's a lot of details to work

1619
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:38,320
out but i do think

1620
01:42:38,320 --> 01:42:40,480
when we get time to enter an agreement

1621
01:42:40,480 --> 01:42:42,320
with all of these organizations that we

1622
01:42:42,320 --> 01:42:44,639
would want to have some type of date

1623
01:42:44,639 --> 01:42:46,719
where if the project hasn't started or

1624
01:42:46,719 --> 01:42:48,239
there's not full funding or it's not

1625
01:42:48,239 --> 01:42:50,320
ready to go that we would actually be

1626
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:52,400
able to reallocate the funds because we

1627
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:54,320
don't want to be in a situation where

1628
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:56,159
you know and it probably will happen in

1629
01:42:56,159 --> 01:42:57,600
certain things like if something doesn't

1630
01:42:57,600 --> 01:42:59,760
move forward or there's a change we want

1631
01:42:59,760 --> 01:43:01,440
to be able to

1632
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:03,679
reallocate the funds obviously so i

1633
01:43:03,679 --> 01:43:05,760
think we should include that in all the

1634
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:06,960
contracts yeah

1635
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,719
that's would be pretty much standard

1636
01:43:08,719 --> 01:43:10,719
practice anyway right you know what like

1637
01:43:10,719 --> 01:43:11,520
uh

1638
01:43:11,520 --> 01:43:13,040
can we block rent money right don't we

1639
01:43:13,040 --> 01:43:15,119
do that with them too like depending

1640
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:24,950
yeah

1641
01:43:24,960 --> 01:43:25,679
so

1642
01:43:25,679 --> 01:43:26,880
are we going to reference anything with

1643
01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,360
regards to the 750 being allocated to

1644
01:43:29,360 --> 01:43:33,430
the pump station

1645
01:43:33,440 --> 01:43:39,990
in the resolution so that way it's noted

1646
01:43:40,000 --> 01:43:41,280
um are we going to reference the

1647
01:43:41,280 --> 01:43:42,639
contingency

1648
01:43:42,639 --> 01:43:45,840
against this uh pump station renovations

1649
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:47,840
i think we need to for sure yeah i think

1650
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:50,000
we should it'll be similar to similar to

1651
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:51,440
what we've done in the previous

1652
01:43:51,440 --> 01:43:52,719
resolution

1653
01:43:52,719 --> 01:43:54,880
right yes and similar to pricks where

1654
01:43:54,880 --> 01:43:56,639
the contingency is noted in the

1655
01:43:56,639 --> 01:44:33,109
resolution

1656
01:44:33,119 --> 01:44:38,629
discussion on this or

1657
01:44:38,639 --> 01:44:41,040
yeah any other special regards mr

1658
01:44:41,040 --> 01:44:45,430
williams proposal on the table

1659
01:44:45,440 --> 01:44:47,679
okay oh maybe i just have a total of

1660
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:49,440
where we are yeah thank you i was just

1661
01:44:49,440 --> 01:44:51,280
waiting

1662
01:44:51,280 --> 01:44:53,440
10 million 583

1663
01:44:53,440 --> 01:44:56,159
857

1664
01:44:56,159 --> 01:44:57,040
10

1665
01:44:57,040 --> 01:45:00,239
583 857 that is correct that's what i

1666
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:02,320
have so

1667
01:45:02,320 --> 01:45:04,639
on top of the thirty six thousand six

1668
01:45:04,639 --> 01:45:07,119
ten five this is everything this is all

1669
01:45:07,119 --> 01:45:08,400
the projects that have been discussed

1670
01:45:08,400 --> 01:45:10,159
tonight tonight tonight

1671
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:12,400
right now this is just tonight yes

1672
01:45:12,400 --> 01:45:14,719
ten million five eighty three

1673
01:45:14,719 --> 01:45:27,910
eight

1674
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:30,320
so that includes i mean i don't know if

1675
01:45:30,320 --> 01:45:31,679
i said it the second time around that

1676
01:45:31,679 --> 01:45:34,239
includes habitat and scaf and the best

1677
01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:37,910
house

1678
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:38,719
okay

1679
01:45:38,719 --> 01:45:40,880
original no i didn't no it did not it

1680
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,719
didn't include those so we can go back

1681
01:45:42,719 --> 01:45:53,669
please

1682
01:45:53,679 --> 01:45:56,560
oh i should be specific i said habitat

1683
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:58,880
at 500 thousand

1684
01:45:58,880 --> 01:46:01,280
five hundred k right it's gap at one

1685
01:46:01,280 --> 01:46:05,669
hundred thousand

1686
01:46:05,679 --> 01:46:08,639
and because 100 k is a scale

1687
01:46:08,639 --> 01:46:09,760
yes

1688
01:46:09,760 --> 01:46:11,360
what else but

1689
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:27,669
two hundred thousand

1690
01:46:27,679 --> 01:46:30,320
any discussion on these three additional

1691
01:46:30,320 --> 01:46:33,199
projects from this

1692
01:46:33,199 --> 01:46:34,800
torn field

1693
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:36,639
go ahead please just give me one moment

1694
01:46:36,639 --> 01:46:39,270
i'll take it

1695
01:46:39,280 --> 01:46:41,920
so that comes out to uh just as a side

1696
01:46:41,920 --> 01:46:42,719
note

1697
01:46:42,719 --> 01:46:45,199
uh eleven three eighty three eight fifty

1698
01:46:45,199 --> 01:46:47,199
seven that's an additional eight hundred

1699
01:46:47,199 --> 01:46:48,400
dollars

1700
01:46:48,400 --> 01:46:50,800
for those three projects one one three

1701
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:54,080
eight three eight five seven

1702
01:46:54,080 --> 01:46:56,719
in addition to the bethesda house i see

1703
01:46:56,719 --> 01:46:57,760
that

1704
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:03,830
oh it is for carol i'm sorry yes yes

1705
01:47:03,840 --> 01:47:04,800
mr moon

1706
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,679
go ahead please so um just to be clear i

1707
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:09,040
had said those initially before we had

1708
01:47:09,040 --> 01:47:10,080
the discussion

1709
01:47:10,080 --> 01:47:12,880
regarding jerry burrell yeah we invested

1710
01:47:12,880 --> 01:47:15,199
sorry yeah the second time around i

1711
01:47:15,199 --> 01:47:17,360
missed so i'm sorry about that

1712
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:21,590
so with those um

1713
01:47:21,600 --> 01:47:23,840
we're looking at 11 million

1714
01:47:23,840 --> 01:47:25,920
383

1715
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,480
857.

1716
01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:32,629
yeah

1717
01:47:32,639 --> 01:47:35,710
any additional

1718
01:47:35,710 --> 01:47:49,030
[Music]

1719
01:47:49,040 --> 01:47:50,880
for the camera

1720
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:52,400
the cara

1721
01:47:52,400 --> 01:47:55,520
house project on the stage

1722
01:47:55,520 --> 01:47:58,960
oh marion's got it all the new look okay

1723
01:47:58,960 --> 01:48:16,229
yeah i just want to make sure

1724
01:48:16,239 --> 01:48:18,480
so as of tonight there are 11 million

1725
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:21,679
383 857 of new

1726
01:48:21,679 --> 01:48:26,790
allocations

1727
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:28,080
what happens

1728
01:48:28,080 --> 01:48:30,000
um so i had

1729
01:48:30,000 --> 01:48:32,880
the mayor had advocated in his

1730
01:48:32,880 --> 01:48:34,800
again going back to infrastructure

1731
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:36,480
something that we all um

1732
01:48:36,480 --> 01:48:38,400
benefit from um

1733
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:39,920
3 million

1734
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:43,119
500 000 for funds for improving

1735
01:48:43,119 --> 01:48:45,600
sidewalks and streets and

1736
01:48:45,600 --> 01:48:48,159
along the corridor so i i know you know

1737
01:48:48,159 --> 01:48:50,480
a lot of these things uh that we've

1738
01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:52,159
allocated funds to

1739
01:48:52,159 --> 01:48:54,239
go to benefit so many people in the

1740
01:48:54,239 --> 01:48:56,080
community that need them and then

1741
01:48:56,080 --> 01:48:57,600
there's you know people who live in in

1742
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:59,440
different parts of the community that

1743
01:48:59,440 --> 01:49:01,040
don't benefit from that but the

1744
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,520
sidewalks everyone benefits from and

1745
01:49:03,520 --> 01:49:05,119
personally i walk in the road a lot of

1746
01:49:05,119 --> 01:49:07,840
times um just not to trip on sidewalks

1747
01:49:07,840 --> 01:49:09,440
so i'd like to see how much we could

1748
01:49:09,440 --> 01:49:12,159
allocate for the infrastructure for them

1749
01:49:12,159 --> 01:49:14,080
yeah the last time um

1750
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:16,639
patrick had brought us up and i asked

1751
01:49:16,639 --> 01:49:19,599
mccarthy for a description of the um the

1752
01:49:19,599 --> 01:49:21,360
overall of the projects in terms of the

1753
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:23,440
sidewalk in terms of the road and we

1754
01:49:23,440 --> 01:49:24,639
didn't receive it from him and me

1755
01:49:24,639 --> 01:49:27,360
mccarty's not here tonight i think

1756
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:28,880
based on the last conversation when we

1757
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,560
were discussing this i think everybody

1758
01:49:30,560 --> 01:49:32,960
was on board in terms of allocating more

1759
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:34,880
values missed the public even some more

1760
01:49:34,880 --> 01:49:37,119
money yeah we need more money into this

1761
01:49:37,119 --> 01:49:39,199
project but um i think we should get a

1762
01:49:39,199 --> 01:49:40,800
little bit of description of what is

1763
01:49:40,800 --> 01:49:42,960
exactly going to happen

1764
01:49:42,960 --> 01:49:44,480
laws where it's going to happen it looks

1765
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:49,520
like we have 42 million right now yes um

1766
01:49:49,520 --> 01:49:52,560
and there's 15.

1767
01:49:52,560 --> 01:49:54,480
so we're looking at 10 11 million

1768
01:49:54,480 --> 01:49:56,480
dollars

1769
01:49:56,480 --> 01:50:00,159
something million left 9.89

1770
01:50:00,159 --> 01:50:02,719
so again and again we want to keep

1771
01:50:02,719 --> 01:50:04,880
um i believe a question for the projects

1772
01:50:04,880 --> 01:50:06,000
that we are

1773
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:07,520
allocating money to

1774
01:50:07,520 --> 01:50:08,480
um

1775
01:50:08,480 --> 01:50:10,159
increased you know double funding

1776
01:50:10,159 --> 01:50:11,840
especially in full that there's money

1777
01:50:11,840 --> 01:50:15,440
left to fund them um and again

1778
01:50:15,440 --> 01:50:17,520
as mr williams states

1779
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,599
there are a lot of

1780
01:50:19,599 --> 01:50:21,440
people we didn't even get to on here

1781
01:50:21,440 --> 01:50:23,119
that you know we might

1782
01:50:23,119 --> 01:50:25,440
could allocate some some money too so

1783
01:50:25,440 --> 01:50:26,960
again is this something that we could

1784
01:50:26,960 --> 01:50:29,270
ask

1785
01:50:29,280 --> 01:50:33,830
a sidewalk

1786
01:50:33,840 --> 01:50:36,800
the sidewalk project but what exactly is

1787
01:50:36,800 --> 01:50:43,990
going

1788
01:50:44,000 --> 01:50:46,719
yeah we i think concern is that sidewalk

1789
01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:48,880
where is it is it the money money is

1790
01:50:48,880 --> 01:50:50,000
going to be there and we're going to

1791
01:50:50,000 --> 01:50:52,080
decide what petition or are we gonna

1792
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:53,520
just take this money into the streets

1793
01:50:53,520 --> 01:50:54,480
which i don't want the problem in the

1794
01:50:54,480 --> 01:50:56,480
street but i want to be specific and to

1795
01:50:56,480 --> 01:50:59,760
understand what are the projects or if it's a part

1796
01:50:59,760 --> 01:51:01,440
of money that we're going to do petition

1797
01:51:01,440 --> 01:51:03,199
right

1798
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:06,159
good it's certainly personally

1799
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:08,880
i'm not a sidewalk expert but my first

1800
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:11,280
question would be what does that 3.5

1801
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:13,840
million dollars do in the dent of all of

1802
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:15,280
our um

1803
01:51:15,280 --> 01:51:17,040
cyclops that have issues

1804
01:51:17,040 --> 01:51:21,040
but then what sidewalks do we prioritize school sidewalks do we

1805
01:51:21,040 --> 01:51:23,119
prioritize sidewalks and impoverished

1806
01:51:23,119 --> 01:51:25,760
neighborhoods do we prioritize sidewalks

1807
01:51:25,760 --> 01:51:27,119
where

1808
01:51:27,119 --> 01:51:29,920
homeowners are not able or

1809
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:31,599
it's a renter household where we don't

1810
01:51:31,599 --> 01:51:33,440
want those funds

1811
01:51:33,440 --> 01:51:36,560
displaced to increase our rental prices

1812
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,560
which are already sky high within our

1813
01:51:38,560 --> 01:51:39,520
city

1814
01:51:39,520 --> 01:51:41,119
so for me personally i think our

1815
01:51:41,119 --> 01:51:42,560
sidewalks

1816
01:51:42,560 --> 01:51:46,000
slash pavement is a long term plan and i

1817
01:51:46,000 --> 01:51:47,440
do not want to call

1818
01:51:47,440 --> 01:51:49,119
chris wallin back up here because he's

1819
01:51:49,119 --> 01:51:50,960
due to come back up

1820
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:51,679
but

1821
01:51:51,679 --> 01:51:54,320
how do we look at the current policy of

1822
01:51:54,320 --> 01:51:56,960
how we implement chip within the city um

1823
01:51:56,960 --> 01:51:58,480
because i think that is where we need to

1824
01:51:58,480 --> 01:52:01,520
discuss i know i haven't had a chance to

1825
01:52:01,520 --> 01:52:03,679
have discussions um to understand more

1826
01:52:03,679 --> 01:52:06,639
of the mayor's intent but if it's truly

1827
01:52:06,639 --> 01:52:09,440
to disperse all of those funds for our

1828
01:52:09,440 --> 01:52:11,840
street payment i think we are at time to

1829
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:14,000
have that conversation of should we

1830
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:15,760
distribute those funds exclusively for

1831
01:52:15,760 --> 01:52:18,080
sidewalks or do we need to look at more

1832
01:52:18,080 --> 01:52:21,920
of a different

1833
01:52:21,920 --> 01:52:24,080
distribution of proportions uh because i

1834
01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,000
know for me living in this city

1835
01:52:26,000 --> 01:52:28,320
if we're dedicating all those funds or a

1836
01:52:28,320 --> 01:52:29,679
large majority of those funds to the

1837
01:52:29,679 --> 01:52:30,719
streets

1838
01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:33,040
schenectady is prone to have crappy

1839
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:34,480
streets

1840
01:52:34,480 --> 01:52:36,159
i think that's synonymous with our city

1841
01:52:36,159 --> 01:52:39,280
unfortunately not no no offense to

1842
01:52:39,280 --> 01:52:42,159
those bad hunters

1843
01:52:42,159 --> 01:52:43,280
so i think

1844
01:52:43,280 --> 01:52:44,800
rather than

1845
01:52:44,800 --> 01:52:46,480
putting forth

1846
01:52:46,480 --> 01:52:48,880
limited one-time use funding i think

1847
01:52:48,880 --> 01:52:50,159
that is the discussion that i'd be more

1848
01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:52,000
willing to have

1849
01:52:52,000 --> 01:52:54,080
yeah i i think that's something that i'm

1850
01:52:54,080 --> 01:52:55,760
leading towards too because it's a do

1851
01:52:55,760 --> 01:52:58,159
inside work let's put additional funding

1852
01:52:58,159 --> 01:53:01,440
towards improving our streets

1853
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:02,960
so i know that there's some

1854
01:53:02,960 --> 01:53:04,159
infrastructure money that's supposed to

1855
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:05,679
be coming down do we know the status of

1856
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:05,980
that

1857
01:53:05,980 --> 01:53:09,589
[Music]

1858
01:53:09,599 --> 01:53:25,510
i asked that question last cycle

1859
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:27,199
grants now so that's what we're looking

1860
01:53:27,199 --> 01:53:29,280
into okay

1861
01:53:29,280 --> 01:53:32,320
so maybe we can incorporate it into this

1862
01:53:32,320 --> 01:53:33,520
infrastructure

1863
01:53:33,520 --> 01:53:35,520
when we have a number place and can set

1864
01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:41,109
aside some media

1865
01:53:41,119 --> 01:53:42,880
i i just want to mention this in regards

1866
01:53:42,880 --> 01:53:44,719
to the

1867
01:53:44,719 --> 01:53:47,440
retention job retention and now we see

1868
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:50,629
it allocated here

1869
01:53:50,639 --> 01:53:52,639
mr ferrari i know we had a conversation

1870
01:53:52,639 --> 01:53:54,880
at a couple weeks ago that we're not

1871
01:53:54,880 --> 01:53:56,719
going to spend all this money

1872
01:53:56,719 --> 01:53:58,639
so at some point in time we need to make

1873
01:53:58,639 --> 01:54:00,320
some adjustment

1874
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,880
to these numbers

1875
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,199
in terms of the the budget allocation

1876
01:54:05,199 --> 01:54:08,719
for 2022 and the 4.6 million and the

1877
01:54:08,719 --> 01:54:12,480
allocation for the 1.4 million dollars

1878
01:54:12,480 --> 01:54:14,159
would you able to get that back to us in

1879
01:54:14,159 --> 01:54:17,040
two weeks sure

1880
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,840
their job retention yeah

1881
01:54:19,840 --> 01:54:21,440
2022

1882
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:24,000
yes those numbers i think

1883
01:54:24,000 --> 01:54:25,920
there are some changes gonna happen here

1884
01:54:25,920 --> 01:54:27,760
we can get some more uh realistic

1885
01:54:27,760 --> 01:54:30,000
numbers uh there will be able to free up

1886
01:54:30,000 --> 01:54:32,880
some fundings with regards to um

1887
01:54:32,880 --> 01:54:35,920
the budget allocation and i will also

1888
01:54:35,920 --> 01:54:38,000
trigger the job retention number is

1889
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:39,520
going to come also

1890
01:54:39,520 --> 01:54:41,760
so for original work on that we'll deal

1891
01:54:41,760 --> 01:54:43,199
with this as we

1892
01:54:43,199 --> 01:54:45,599
get to the next rounds and we'll address

1893
01:54:45,599 --> 01:54:48,239
yes street inside logs

1894
01:54:48,239 --> 01:54:52,159
top everybody's um priority

1895
01:54:52,159 --> 01:54:54,719
uh anything else we should discuss here

1896
01:54:54,719 --> 01:54:56,480
i would like to wrap this up and move

1897
01:54:56,480 --> 01:54:58,880
forward with allocating eleven million

1898
01:54:58,880 --> 01:55:00,320
three hundred and three thousand eight

1899
01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,520
hundred fifty seven dollars this run

1900
01:55:03,520 --> 01:55:06,080
on top of whatever we already allocated

1901
01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:08,239
and then we can continue to discuss this

1902
01:55:08,239 --> 01:55:10,400
the additional funding in the next two

1903
01:55:10,400 --> 01:55:11,360
weeks

1904
01:55:11,360 --> 01:55:14,080
and hopefully wrap it up there

1905
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:16,239
go ahead so my question is as far as

1906
01:55:16,239 --> 01:55:19,360
we're saying funding so this um

1907
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,000
the remaining funding is for the second

1908
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:25,840
round applications that we promised the

1909
01:55:25,840 --> 01:55:27,740
oh

1910
01:55:27,740 --> 01:55:29,119
[Music]

1911
01:55:29,119 --> 01:55:30,639
you want to talk about that go ahead and

1912
01:55:30,639 --> 01:55:33,440
talk yeah i just wanted i know that you

1913
01:55:33,440 --> 01:55:34,800
know

1914
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:36,880
we told people that they would people

1915
01:55:36,880 --> 01:55:38,400
didn't fill out the application for the

1916
01:55:38,400 --> 01:55:39,520
first round

1917
01:55:39,520 --> 01:55:42,320
one of when we first

1918
01:55:42,320 --> 01:55:43,520
when i was bringing up the fact that

1919
01:55:43,520 --> 01:55:45,599
maybe we should extend the application

1920
01:55:45,599 --> 01:55:48,480
process some of the feedback i got was

1921
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:50,480
if people can't you know didn't make it

1922
01:55:50,480 --> 01:55:52,320
within the deadline for this round they

1923
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:54,320
will have a second opportunity

1924
01:55:54,320 --> 01:55:55,360
to um

1925
01:55:55,360 --> 01:55:58,080
to apply for funding so i just want to

1926
01:55:58,080 --> 01:55:59,520
make sure that we're all clear that that

1927
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,040
is that we're all moving in that

1928
01:56:01,040 --> 01:56:02,159
direction

1929
01:56:02,159 --> 01:56:03,920
and saying well

1930
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:05,760
unless we're changing

1931
01:56:05,760 --> 01:56:07,760
what we initially told the public i just

1932
01:56:07,760 --> 01:56:11,109
want to make sure

1933
01:56:11,119 --> 01:56:12,400
go ahead please

1934
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,119
yeah that was never agreed to i mean we

1935
01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:16,960
never settled on that it was a

1936
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:18,960
discussion there was never any vote

1937
01:56:18,960 --> 01:56:20,400
there was never

1938
01:56:20,400 --> 01:56:22,320
anything decided on there were a couple

1939
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:23,920
of individuals on the council that

1940
01:56:23,920 --> 01:56:35,350
wanted that but it was not set

1941
01:56:35,360 --> 01:56:37,119
with no respect thank you i don't know

1942
01:56:37,119 --> 01:56:39,920
who we is because i never said that

1943
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:42,159
again you see what we've gone through

1944
01:56:42,159 --> 01:56:43,760
here and the amount of people that need

1945
01:56:43,760 --> 01:56:45,840
money that are looking for funding

1946
01:56:45,840 --> 01:56:47,679
so i mean if we're going to do something

1947
01:56:47,679 --> 01:56:49,599
but hand out who's already put in their

1948
01:56:49,599 --> 01:56:51,760
application the one time that we

1949
01:56:51,760 --> 01:56:53,679
decided to do it i do not think there

1950
01:56:53,679 --> 01:56:55,119
should be another run

1951
01:56:55,119 --> 01:56:58,400
of requests for funding or you run into

1952
01:56:58,400 --> 01:57:00,800
another 75 million dollars worth of

1953
01:57:00,800 --> 01:57:02,800
requests which i think is what we got

1954
01:57:02,800 --> 01:57:04,560
the first time with the applications out

1955
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:07,840
there and unfortunately i said that i am

1956
01:57:07,840 --> 01:57:10,320
not in favor of that by any means i'm

1957
01:57:10,320 --> 01:57:13,130
sorry thank you

1958
01:57:13,130 --> 01:57:15,599
[Music]

1959
01:57:15,599 --> 01:57:17,119
go ahead yes sir

1960
01:57:17,119 --> 01:57:19,760
so there was discussion about that a lot

1961
01:57:19,760 --> 01:57:22,000
of discussion about that and it was said

1962
01:57:22,000 --> 01:57:23,280
many times

1963
01:57:23,280 --> 01:57:25,440
and one of the specific things i do

1964
01:57:25,440 --> 01:57:26,960
remember when the project for the golf

1965
01:57:26,960 --> 01:57:29,679
course came up initially it was maybe

1966
01:57:29,679 --> 01:57:33,679
1.5 or some a much lower amount than we

1967
01:57:33,679 --> 01:57:36,960
ultimately allocated and the reason and

1968
01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:39,440
when i asked the mayor why i think it

1969
01:57:39,440 --> 01:57:40,880
may have happened here at this table

1970
01:57:40,880 --> 01:57:42,400
it's because he said when the second

1971
01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,159
round came he was going to be looking

1972
01:57:44,159 --> 01:57:46,159
for money from that round so

1973
01:57:46,159 --> 01:57:48,239
um although we never took a vote and but

1974
01:57:48,239 --> 01:57:50,159
there was certainly uh could seem to be

1975
01:57:50,159 --> 01:57:52,320
a consensus that we would be doing that

1976
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,800
now mister to mr um william's point he

1977
01:57:54,800 --> 01:57:56,960
mentioned that maybe uh we should not

1978
01:57:56,960 --> 01:57:58,560
have necessarily the same kind of

1979
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:00,480
application process but have some

1980
01:58:00,480 --> 01:58:02,800
process for people who did not get an

1981
01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,520
opportunity the first time since we

1982
01:58:05,520 --> 01:58:07,679
made a commitment of sorts

1983
01:58:07,679 --> 01:58:10,000
um have an opportunity to put forth for

1984
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:12,400
instance we um we talked all the parts

1985
01:58:12,400 --> 01:58:14,320
were listed except simon spark was

1986
01:58:14,320 --> 01:58:16,719
listed on the mayor so that would be a

1987
01:58:16,719 --> 01:58:18,560
group that would have to you know we'd

1988
01:58:18,560 --> 01:58:20,560
have to put something together there so

1989
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:22,480
i think that if we could figure out how

1990
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:24,480
it doesn't necessarily have to be um the

1991
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:27,840
same process and um just for clarity's

1992
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,000
sake i'm not saying that we need to to

1993
01:58:30,000 --> 01:58:32,159
do an advisory committee again um that

1994
01:58:32,159 --> 01:58:34,400
was very long process so

1995
01:58:34,400 --> 01:58:35,119
but

1996
01:58:35,119 --> 01:58:36,480
we should come up with something i do

1997
01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:38,880
believe to um be able to entertain folks

1998
01:58:38,880 --> 01:58:42,080
who um anticipated and i actually had

1999
01:58:42,080 --> 01:58:43,760
this conversation with someone over the

2000
01:58:43,760 --> 01:58:45,199
weekend was like okay when the second

2001
01:58:45,199 --> 01:58:47,760
round comes so people are under that

2002
01:58:47,760 --> 01:58:48,800
impression

2003
01:58:48,800 --> 01:58:51,119
um and so i think that we should figure

2004
01:58:51,119 --> 01:58:53,920
out how we can somehow

2005
01:58:53,920 --> 01:58:55,440
do this

2006
01:58:55,440 --> 01:58:57,520
without it being as long a process as

2007
01:58:57,520 --> 01:58:58,639
the first time

2008
01:58:58,639 --> 01:59:01,679
that's that's how i see it

2009
01:59:01,679 --> 01:59:02,400
so

2010
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:05,119
in terms of diamond parts and grout part

2011
01:59:05,119 --> 01:59:08,000
we don't have an application in house

2012
01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:10,159
with regards to time and spar or

2013
01:59:10,159 --> 01:59:12,880
anything close to pearl power

2014
01:59:12,880 --> 01:59:17,040
so in that case we will have to

2015
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:19,199
get application through

2016
01:59:19,199 --> 01:59:21,440
your department with regards to what

2017
01:59:21,440 --> 01:59:23,119
exactly needed at

2018
01:59:23,119 --> 01:59:25,040
these two parts

2019
01:59:25,040 --> 01:59:26,480
i mean i think that's what chris was

2020
01:59:26,480 --> 01:59:28,320
saying like engaging the recreation

2021
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:30,639
advisory committee for bringing in you

2022
01:59:30,639 --> 01:59:30,850
know

2023
01:59:30,850 --> 01:59:32,000
[Music]

2024
01:59:32,000 --> 01:59:33,199
some type of

2025
01:59:33,199 --> 01:59:34,960
way to be able to prioritize some of

2026
01:59:34,960 --> 01:59:36,239
these things but

2027
01:59:36,239 --> 01:59:37,760
um i mean that would be

2028
01:59:37,760 --> 01:59:39,679
what's time is park

2029
01:59:39,679 --> 01:59:40,880
right

2030
01:59:40,880 --> 01:59:41,840
now you're talking about the whole

2031
01:59:41,840 --> 01:59:45,490
general partner

2032
01:59:45,500 --> 01:59:47,119
[Music]

2033
01:59:47,119 --> 01:59:49,199
if we're talking about city park city

2034
01:59:49,199 --> 01:59:51,760
facilities applications to me are just

2035
01:59:51,760 --> 01:59:53,599
ridiculous we're investing in ourselves

2036
01:59:53,599 --> 01:59:55,679
we're investing in our community we're

2037
01:59:55,679 --> 01:59:57,679
investing in every single resident in

2038
01:59:57,679 --> 01:59:59,199
this city

2039
01:59:59,199 --> 02:00:01,679
and to say we need an application for a

2040
02:00:01,679 --> 02:00:04,080
city park and to make improvements to

2041
02:00:04,080 --> 02:00:07,520
the city park i just think it's yes

2042
02:00:07,520 --> 02:00:09,599
i wasn't asking i was just asking if we

2043
02:00:09,599 --> 02:00:11,440
need an application for these two parts

2044
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,280
because if the other parts did submit

2045
02:00:13,280 --> 02:00:14,719
application

2046
02:00:14,719 --> 02:00:16,960
we need to go through the same procedure

2047
02:00:16,960 --> 02:00:19,679
as these two and if not then the city

2048
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:21,440
just need to make a recommendation to

2049
02:00:21,440 --> 02:00:23,360
fund these two parts to us i didn't

2050
02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:24,800
agree with it in the first place for

2051
02:00:24,800 --> 02:00:27,440
city for city projects it's ridiculous i

2052
02:00:27,440 --> 02:00:28,880
mean we're investing

2053
02:00:28,880 --> 02:00:30,960
in our community

2054
02:00:30,960 --> 02:00:32,080
why are we

2055
02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:35,280
if we wanted to have a a application

2056
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:36,400
process

2057
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:39,599
then should it set aside some money for

2058
02:00:39,599 --> 02:00:43,119
these prop projects and then whatever

2059
02:00:43,119 --> 02:00:45,760
for city projects to have applications

2060
02:00:45,760 --> 02:00:50,550
for this silliness in my mind

2061
02:00:50,560 --> 02:00:52,239
so how did we

2062
02:00:52,239 --> 02:00:54,960
allocate money to these

2063
02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,840
part that we are funding tonight

2064
02:00:57,840 --> 02:01:00,000
they're proposing to fund tonight

2065
02:01:00,000 --> 02:01:01,920
these parts

2066
02:01:01,920 --> 02:01:03,119
i believe

2067
02:01:03,119 --> 02:01:05,679
some of them i think chris just had a

2068
02:01:05,679 --> 02:01:06,719
list

2069
02:01:06,719 --> 02:01:12,550
it was

2070
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:13,760
you're trying to say like what would the

2071
02:01:13,760 --> 02:01:16,000
scope of work be like what's needed at

2072
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:17,520
that part

2073
02:01:17,520 --> 02:01:19,679
i believe there was a plan first was my

2074
02:01:19,679 --> 02:01:21,679
first time that was like probably 10

2075
02:01:21,679 --> 02:01:24,000
years old now but they did have a master

2076
02:01:24,000 --> 02:01:25,760
plan i believe some of that stuff was

2077
02:01:25,760 --> 02:01:27,599
accomplished we could go back to that

2078
02:01:27,599 --> 02:01:28,880
and see but i think it would really be

2079
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,400
up to the neighborhood like to

2080
02:01:30,400 --> 02:01:32,320
understand what really the priority is

2081
02:01:32,320 --> 02:01:34,239
for the park i don't know that

2082
02:01:34,239 --> 02:01:36,000
information right now but i do think

2083
02:01:36,000 --> 02:01:37,119
that it's something that the

2084
02:01:37,119 --> 02:01:38,400
neighborhood would know is there

2085
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:40,560
something that we can have an update

2086
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:44,390
updated information on that

2087
02:01:44,400 --> 02:01:47,109
let's see

2088
02:01:47,119 --> 02:01:58,310
to see where we stand in terms of

2089
02:01:58,320 --> 02:02:00,400
you know the reason that we excluded

2090
02:02:00,400 --> 02:02:02,719
simon's part from this list was that

2091
02:02:02,719 --> 02:02:06,400
there is i believe still a 125 000

2092
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:08,560
grand coming to simon's park

2093
02:02:08,560 --> 02:02:11,199
for the preservation and repairs of the

2094
02:02:11,199 --> 02:02:14,239
historic wall and the preservation of

2095
02:02:14,239 --> 02:02:16,400
the path and possibly the extension of

2096
02:02:16,400 --> 02:02:18,800
the path around the pond

2097
02:02:18,800 --> 02:02:21,119
that was the focus for that and with

2098
02:02:21,119 --> 02:02:23,199
that funding we were

2099
02:02:23,199 --> 02:02:26,000
going to just use it as we could and

2100
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:27,760
also if we needed more since part of it

2101
02:02:27,760 --> 02:02:29,920
was a path i was going to supplement it

2102
02:02:29,920 --> 02:02:32,080
with paving money which usually we have

2103
02:02:32,080 --> 02:02:35,040
enough of on an annual basis however if

2104
02:02:35,040 --> 02:02:38,480
there are other things you know in that

2105
02:02:38,480 --> 02:02:40,639
report that you mentioned it is 10 years

2106
02:02:40,639 --> 02:02:42,800
old there are dog parks there is a

2107
02:02:42,800 --> 02:02:44,639
basketball court that's defunct back

2108
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:46,719
there in a tennis court but these things

2109
02:02:46,719 --> 02:02:48,000
once again

2110
02:02:48,000 --> 02:02:49,040
have

2111
02:02:49,040 --> 02:02:50,960
no champion i guess that is the best

2112
02:02:50,960 --> 02:02:52,719
term to do it right now you know the

2113
02:02:52,719 --> 02:02:54,719
people who are talking about it is the

2114
02:02:54,719 --> 02:02:56,960
wall it is the path

2115
02:02:56,960 --> 02:02:59,119
and since there hasn't been anyone right

2116
02:02:59,119 --> 02:03:01,440
now talking about the other amenities of

2117
02:03:01,440 --> 02:03:02,239
it

2118
02:03:02,239 --> 02:03:04,320
that they don't have a place on that

2119
02:03:04,320 --> 02:03:05,920
list

2120
02:03:05,920 --> 02:03:08,800
the other facilities have all had people

2121
02:03:08,800 --> 02:03:10,560
ask us for those facilities we've had

2122
02:03:10,560 --> 02:03:12,400
meetings about those facilities and

2123
02:03:12,400 --> 02:03:14,320
because we do not have an organized

2124
02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:16,239
group to discuss parks

2125
02:03:16,239 --> 02:03:19,280
you know it is the loudest voice

2126
02:03:19,280 --> 02:03:21,040
is the one that we hear if there is no

2127
02:03:21,040 --> 02:03:22,320
voice

2128
02:03:22,320 --> 02:03:24,080
there's no advocate for the park right

2129
02:03:24,080 --> 02:03:26,080
now unless there's some need for a

2130
02:03:26,080 --> 02:03:27,679
public safety reason that we have to

2131
02:03:27,679 --> 02:03:28,960
step in

2132
02:03:28,960 --> 02:03:31,440
so we could reach out to

2133
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:33,119
you know

2134
02:03:33,119 --> 02:03:36,719
the neighborhood and we could it's just

2135
02:03:36,719 --> 02:03:38,080
that way

2136
02:03:38,080 --> 02:03:40,239
this process has evolved we use that to

2137
02:03:40,239 --> 02:03:42,800
use a nice kind word as this process has

2138
02:03:42,800 --> 02:03:43,679
evolved

2139
02:03:43,679 --> 02:03:45,040
and this is a little bit different than

2140
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:47,920
where we were you know um right now the

2141
02:03:47,920 --> 02:03:50,000
city did make some applications and

2142
02:03:50,000 --> 02:03:51,520
these projects didn't have applications

2143
02:03:51,520 --> 02:03:53,679
we're gonna go with parks that's great

2144
02:03:53,679 --> 02:03:55,520
that's your you know it's your decision

2145
02:03:55,520 --> 02:03:56,800
to make on this

2146
02:03:56,800 --> 02:03:58,480
uh but you know i guess we just have to

2147
02:03:58,480 --> 02:04:00,000
be flexible as we want to be more at

2148
02:04:00,000 --> 02:04:01,280
simon's part

2149
02:04:01,280 --> 02:04:03,280
what is that more i have thoughts i've

2150
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:05,199
had had some conversations about what

2151
02:04:05,199 --> 02:04:07,599
that more is i'm even nervous to mention

2152
02:04:07,599 --> 02:04:09,679
what that more is at this table because

2153
02:04:09,679 --> 02:04:11,199
it's once again it's just

2154
02:04:11,199 --> 02:04:14,639
do we do we do it i don't i don't know

2155
02:04:14,639 --> 02:04:17,280
but you know usually with the projects

2156
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:20,480
i've had like uh camille has been very

2157
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:22,239
much involved in that we did the

2158
02:04:22,239 --> 02:04:24,320
pavilion and we did the community center

2159
02:04:24,320 --> 02:04:26,960
we did the building you know we did the

2160
02:04:26,960 --> 02:04:28,560
bocce and some other things there in the

2161
02:04:28,560 --> 02:04:30,960
memorial you know those were all kind of

2162
02:04:30,960 --> 02:04:33,679
grassroots goose hill things and i did

2163
02:04:33,679 --> 02:04:36,079
not get that for this round

2164
02:04:36,079 --> 02:04:37,920
goose hill recommendation other than

2165
02:04:37,920 --> 02:04:40,000
what we just talked about for the grant

2166
02:04:40,000 --> 02:04:41,920
and then grout park is

2167
02:04:41,920 --> 02:04:44,239
was even quieter i i no one mentioned

2168
02:04:44,239 --> 02:04:45,920
any grout park

2169
02:04:45,920 --> 02:04:46,960
um

2170
02:04:46,960 --> 02:04:49,280
so once again if we do grout park then

2171
02:04:49,280 --> 02:04:50,320
it's

2172
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,639
what are we doing i don't have a number

2173
02:04:52,639 --> 02:04:54,000
i can throw at that because i don't know

2174
02:04:54,000 --> 02:04:55,599
what the scope would be or what the goal

2175
02:04:55,599 --> 02:04:57,520
is in drought park is

2176
02:04:57,520 --> 02:04:58,719
very large

2177
02:04:58,719 --> 02:05:00,560
so the cost could be it could be simple

2178
02:05:00,560 --> 02:05:02,960
as re-establish the grass or it could be

2179
02:05:02,960 --> 02:05:04,560
you know build something there i i don't

2180
02:05:04,560 --> 02:05:08,229
know what we're thinking with graph

2181
02:05:08,239 --> 02:05:11,679
okay i'm sorry sorry mr pauline

2182
02:05:11,679 --> 02:05:12,639
yeah so

2183
02:05:12,639 --> 02:05:15,520
first of all diamonds didn't apply

2184
02:05:15,520 --> 02:05:16,719
because they just thought the

2185
02:05:16,719 --> 02:05:19,599
application process was

2186
02:05:19,599 --> 02:05:22,000
uh secondly there have been asks from

2187
02:05:22,000 --> 02:05:24,320
simon's park maybe you didn't get it but

2188
02:05:24,320 --> 02:05:25,119
um

2189
02:05:25,119 --> 02:05:27,199
there definitely has been that certainly

2190
02:05:27,199 --> 02:05:30,000
the 120 thousand dollar grant

2191
02:05:30,000 --> 02:05:31,280
that um

2192
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:33,760
assemblyman's that got will go a long

2193
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:34,960
way to

2194
02:05:34,960 --> 02:05:37,440
doing the wall and in the pathway but

2195
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:38,800
it's not going to cover the entire

2196
02:05:38,800 --> 02:05:39,760
expense

2197
02:05:39,760 --> 02:05:41,840
there's been asked for

2198
02:05:41,840 --> 02:05:43,280
frisbee golf

2199
02:05:43,280 --> 02:05:45,840
that there's probability to have that

2200
02:05:45,840 --> 02:05:48,800
and even go into caleber park the fixing

2201
02:05:48,800 --> 02:05:51,760
of the basketball courts so there is

2202
02:05:51,760 --> 02:05:54,079
there has been mass

2203
02:05:54,079 --> 02:05:55,920
and i just want to make that clear you

2204
02:05:55,920 --> 02:05:58,480
know maybe you didn't get that i

2205
02:05:58,480 --> 02:06:00,159
totally get it because there's so many

2206
02:06:00,159 --> 02:06:02,480
levels yeah oh but they're there's been

2207
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:03,760
ass

2208
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:04,880
and the one thing that i was going to

2209
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:05,679
say

2210
02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:07,920
is that when we were meeting with county

2211
02:06:07,920 --> 02:06:10,159
representatives of the legislature you

2212
02:06:10,159 --> 02:06:12,480
know it was you know if we had a master

2213
02:06:12,480 --> 02:06:14,159
plan and once again our master plan is

2214
02:06:14,159 --> 02:06:16,880
kind of just what we talk about is that

2215
02:06:16,880 --> 02:06:19,199
if we were to add another splash pad

2216
02:06:19,199 --> 02:06:21,440
anywhere there isn't one on the north

2217
02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:23,520
side of the city i know that you used to

2218
02:06:23,520 --> 02:06:26,719
swim in simon's pond you know eons ago

2219
02:06:26,719 --> 02:06:29,199
but now it okay is that an area that we

2220
02:06:29,199 --> 02:06:31,119
want to introduce that to so then there

2221
02:06:31,119 --> 02:06:32,960
was some desire to try to go to that

2222
02:06:32,960 --> 02:06:35,360
route which was introduce some kind of a

2223
02:06:35,360 --> 02:06:37,199
water feature there so that the north

2224
02:06:37,199 --> 02:06:39,040
end of the city has something because

2225
02:06:39,040 --> 02:06:40,480
you know as we're moving to install them

2226
02:06:40,480 --> 02:06:42,079
that's one area that goose hill that has

2227
02:06:42,079 --> 02:06:45,840
it and it's a large of the city so um

2228
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:46,639
but

2229
02:06:46,639 --> 02:06:48,159
yeah and just to add to that with

2230
02:06:48,159 --> 02:06:49,920
regards to growth park yes there were

2231
02:06:49,920 --> 02:06:51,520
many years of

2232
02:06:51,520 --> 02:06:53,679
communities been asking for lights

2233
02:06:53,679 --> 02:06:56,159
remove that building see things

2234
02:06:56,159 --> 02:06:58,159
and doing a lot of work i support if you

2235
02:06:58,159 --> 02:07:00,320
can recall they're constantly asking us

2236
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:02,320
all the time so yes

2237
02:07:02,320 --> 02:07:04,719
they have been asking for a few things

2238
02:07:04,719 --> 02:07:05,760
to do

2239
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:07,440
so i think we can just revisit those

2240
02:07:07,440 --> 02:07:09,040
things and see where we stand at this

2241
02:07:09,040 --> 02:07:13,189
point

2242
02:07:13,199 --> 02:07:14,719
i recognize that there has been asked

2243
02:07:14,719 --> 02:07:17,360
and i think that that that's the and

2244
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:18,719
the significance of having an

2245
02:07:18,719 --> 02:07:21,280
application process is that when people

2246
02:07:21,280 --> 02:07:23,360
ask this we push a way for you to ask

2247
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:26,560
and therefore we can look at it and

2248
02:07:26,560 --> 02:07:28,719
you know review all the information

2249
02:07:28,719 --> 02:07:29,920
and then some of those questions that

2250
02:07:29,920 --> 02:07:31,360
we're trying to answer right now on the

2251
02:07:31,360 --> 02:07:32,400
fly

2252
02:07:32,400 --> 02:07:34,320
go through the process and we can make a

2253
02:07:34,320 --> 02:07:37,040
more informed decision so again i think

2254
02:07:37,040 --> 02:07:38,239
that um

2255
02:07:38,239 --> 02:07:40,800
this right here just is a clear example

2256
02:07:40,800 --> 02:07:41,840
of why

2257
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:44,639
you know we need to have uh uh

2258
02:07:44,639 --> 02:07:48,159
to honor what was said around um

2259
02:07:48,159 --> 02:07:51,599
a second round of applications and um

2260
02:07:51,599 --> 02:07:53,440
for just these reasons because there are

2261
02:07:53,440 --> 02:07:56,960
people who might have thought the application

2262
02:07:56,960 --> 02:07:58,960
process was

2263
02:07:58,960 --> 02:08:02,390
i don't know exactly

2264
02:08:02,400 --> 02:08:03,840
or for whatever reason maybe they were

2265
02:08:03,840 --> 02:08:09,350
unaware that their need you know what uh

2266
02:08:09,360 --> 02:08:10,880
within the parameters of what this

2267
02:08:10,880 --> 02:08:13,119
funding could do so again

2268
02:08:13,119 --> 02:08:16,400
as far as increasing access to funding

2269
02:08:16,400 --> 02:08:17,199
and

2270
02:08:17,199 --> 02:08:18,960
honoring just basically being who we say

2271
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:20,000
we are

2272
02:08:20,000 --> 02:08:22,320
i think that that's what you need to do

2273
02:08:22,320 --> 02:08:24,560
can i make one more suggestion

2274
02:08:24,560 --> 02:08:25,920
please guys

2275
02:08:25,920 --> 02:08:27,760
we welcome your suggestion

2276
02:08:27,760 --> 02:08:29,280
i just this is something that the

2277
02:08:29,280 --> 02:08:30,800
finance commissioner said to me years

2278
02:08:30,800 --> 02:08:34,000
ago uh with regards to how the projects

2279
02:08:34,000 --> 02:08:36,719
are lengthy how much time they take

2280
02:08:36,719 --> 02:08:37,840
um

2281
02:08:37,840 --> 02:08:40,239
so capital money capital money is used

2282
02:08:40,239 --> 02:08:42,400
for physical objects things with a

2283
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:44,400
10-year useful life so we can use

2284
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:46,400
capital money to buy chairs to do the

2285
02:08:46,400 --> 02:08:49,679
roads and to do parks as well so capital

2286
02:08:49,679 --> 02:08:51,440
one can be used capital money cannot be

2287
02:08:51,440 --> 02:08:53,920
used for community groups

2288
02:08:53,920 --> 02:08:55,360
okay so i just want to make sure we're

2289
02:08:55,360 --> 02:08:57,040
all understanding that that difference

2290
02:08:57,040 --> 02:08:58,239
here between capital because you're

2291
02:08:58,239 --> 02:09:01,199
talking about how to give out we cannot

2292
02:09:01,199 --> 02:09:04,400
capital and bond money to give out all

2293
02:09:04,400 --> 02:09:05,520
right so

2294
02:09:05,520 --> 02:09:07,360
just understand that part of it the

2295
02:09:07,360 --> 02:09:08,880
second part of it is

2296
02:09:08,880 --> 02:09:11,599
we may want to because this money is

2297
02:09:11,599 --> 02:09:13,760
flexible as far as i know

2298
02:09:13,760 --> 02:09:15,599
since i don't have a plan for simon

2299
02:09:15,599 --> 02:09:17,280
spark and i don't have a plan for a

2300
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:18,480
grout park

2301
02:09:18,480 --> 02:09:19,920
and those are projects that could be

2302
02:09:19,920 --> 02:09:21,360
used for capital

2303
02:09:21,360 --> 02:09:23,920
we may want to set aside some design

2304
02:09:23,920 --> 02:09:26,239
money which i don't have

2305
02:09:26,239 --> 02:09:28,639
and put together some design money aside

2306
02:09:28,639 --> 02:09:30,159
out of the article which would be you

2307
02:09:30,159 --> 02:09:32,239
know 10 15

2308
02:09:32,239 --> 02:09:33,599
of what we think the total budget would

2309
02:09:33,599 --> 02:09:37,040
be and we design the project next year

2310
02:09:37,040 --> 02:09:38,000
and then

2311
02:09:38,000 --> 02:09:40,079
we maybe use capital to build the

2312
02:09:40,079 --> 02:09:41,280
project

2313
02:09:41,280 --> 02:09:43,199
um because just be

2314
02:09:43,199 --> 02:09:44,960
i don't know what grout park is i don't

2315
02:09:44,960 --> 02:09:46,880
know what the project is so to sit here

2316
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:48,719
and tell you that it's going to cost 500

2317
02:09:48,719 --> 02:09:49,520
000

2318
02:09:49,520 --> 02:09:51,920
i have no idea exactly you know the

2319
02:09:51,920 --> 02:09:54,400
projects that we have the best concepts

2320
02:09:54,400 --> 02:09:56,639
of are the ones that we have conceptual

2321
02:09:56,639 --> 02:09:58,800
design and consultants on board and

2322
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:06,470
we're

2323
02:10:06,480 --> 02:10:07,840
it's just that idea you have to have

2324
02:10:07,840 --> 02:10:09,679
everything all at once you know like we

2325
02:10:09,679 --> 02:10:11,040
talked about some larger projects we

2326
02:10:11,040 --> 02:10:12,960
just got money from craig street craig

2327
02:10:12,960 --> 02:10:14,719
street is such a massive project it is

2328
02:10:14,719 --> 02:10:17,040
going to take us a year to design craig

2329
02:10:17,040 --> 02:10:19,199
street with community involvement and

2330
02:10:19,199 --> 02:10:20,560
getting everything together in the

2331
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:22,880
permitting process and you know if a

2332
02:10:22,880 --> 02:10:24,800
year from today we're bidding it it's a

2333
02:10:24,800 --> 02:10:27,760
success that's how long it takes so with

2334
02:10:27,760 --> 02:10:29,679
brown park if you guys i don't know what

2335
02:10:29,679 --> 02:10:30,960
crowd park is i don't know what simon's

2336
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:32,560
park is i don't know what the scopes are

2337
02:10:32,560 --> 02:10:33,840
for some of these projects if we want to

2338
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:35,679
set aside design money with the

2339
02:10:35,679 --> 02:10:37,360
understanding that

2340
02:10:37,360 --> 02:10:39,280
we may have to use capital money in the

2341
02:10:39,280 --> 02:10:40,159
future

2342
02:10:40,159 --> 02:10:42,639
then that's not a and then you pick what

2343
02:10:42,639 --> 02:10:44,639
you want maybe the project of grout is

2344
02:10:44,639 --> 02:10:47,119
smaller or larger than what you think

2345
02:10:47,119 --> 02:10:49,760
but that gets something going so that we

2346
02:10:49,760 --> 02:10:52,800
can actually have an actual estimate

2347
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:54,719
that's the following yeah so this is the

2348
02:10:54,719 --> 02:10:56,560
problem with how we did things we didn't

2349
02:10:56,560 --> 02:10:58,480
consider the large picture in a large

2350
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,960
time frame we aren't leveraging our

2351
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:04,239
money at all we have 120 000 grant for

2352
02:11:04,239 --> 02:11:09,270
diamonds we could use the our phones and

2353
02:11:09,280 --> 02:11:12,239
leverage that into the bigger project

2354
02:11:12,239 --> 02:11:14,480
um granted we don't know what the scope

2355
02:11:14,480 --> 02:11:16,159
is but we don't need to know the scope

2356
02:11:16,159 --> 02:11:18,239
right now we don't need to spend every

2357
02:11:18,239 --> 02:11:21,520
single penny right now we have time

2358
02:11:21,520 --> 02:11:25,040
so get the things in grout park as well

2359
02:11:25,040 --> 02:11:28,639
get them designed figure out the cost

2360
02:11:28,639 --> 02:11:30,560
and said we don't need to spend all the

2361
02:11:30,560 --> 02:11:32,480
money right now that's the silliest

2362
02:11:32,480 --> 02:11:34,000
we're not thinking

2363
02:11:34,000 --> 02:11:36,239
down the road even with sidewalks in

2364
02:11:36,239 --> 02:11:39,920
roads sidewalks will last 30 40 years

2365
02:11:39,920 --> 02:11:42,079
why wouldn't we use one-time money for

2366
02:11:42,079 --> 02:11:43,440
something that's going to set up the

2367
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:45,840
city for a long-term

2368
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:47,280
impact

2369
02:11:47,280 --> 02:11:50,239
increasing housing values increasing

2370
02:11:50,239 --> 02:11:51,920
livability

2371
02:11:51,920 --> 02:11:53,199
so

2372
02:11:53,199 --> 02:11:54,719
i mean we don't need to spend the

2373
02:11:54,719 --> 02:11:56,800
remainder of the money right this minute

2374
02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:00,000
we have 9.8 something million left

2375
02:12:00,000 --> 02:12:02,960
let's use it wisely

2376
02:12:02,960 --> 02:12:04,320
i think that's what we're trying to do

2377
02:12:04,320 --> 02:12:05,520
here

2378
02:12:05,520 --> 02:12:07,000
and we're going to end up with more than

2379
02:12:07,000 --> 02:12:09,360
9.8 million because they're going to be

2380
02:12:09,360 --> 02:12:13,040
adjustment with regards to the staffing

2381
02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:14,560
of course

2382
02:12:14,560 --> 02:12:17,119
let me just make this

2383
02:12:17,119 --> 02:12:19,119
party thank you

2384
02:12:19,119 --> 02:12:20,960
so uh going with chris and the

2385
02:12:20,960 --> 02:12:22,960
applications yes the applications there

2386
02:12:22,960 --> 02:12:24,400
were no applications made by the

2387
02:12:24,400 --> 02:12:26,239
individual parks it was just as chris

2388
02:12:26,239 --> 02:12:28,960
said whoever spoke screamed the loudest

2389
02:12:28,960 --> 02:12:31,040
and since there were no screams from

2390
02:12:31,040 --> 02:12:35,280
groud force diamonds or south park um

2391
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:38,000
nothing i think kind of in sporting them

2392
02:12:38,000 --> 02:12:39,040
no you know

2393
02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:41,360
no one got any of of of those phones

2394
02:12:41,360 --> 02:12:43,679
again maybe it's just you know some some

2395
02:12:43,679 --> 02:12:46,880
new uh mulch down at south park i get

2396
02:12:46,880 --> 02:12:48,800
you know i love going to these cricket

2397
02:12:48,800 --> 02:12:50,079
games you know they don't like that

2398
02:12:50,079 --> 02:12:51,920
building there how much would it be to

2399
02:12:51,920 --> 02:12:53,360
take that building down like the

2400
02:12:53,360 --> 02:12:57,350
building oh they do it

2401
02:12:57,360 --> 02:12:59,679
but imagine just being there and instead

2402
02:12:59,679 --> 02:13:01,199
of the guys on the field being on the

2403
02:13:01,199 --> 02:13:03,280
second floor calling the games and

2404
02:13:03,280 --> 02:13:05,119
little concessions staying underneath i

2405
02:13:05,119 --> 02:13:06,239
mean it's just

2406
02:13:06,239 --> 02:13:08,560
cricket's huge over there in the park so

2407
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:11,040
again um yeah so maybe we can get a plan

2408
02:13:11,040 --> 02:13:12,400
together put some money in there to

2409
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:17,599
budget for for uh you know to see what the parks might need um but again

2410
02:13:17,599 --> 02:13:20,320
there were no specific applications by

2411
02:13:20,320 --> 02:13:22,000
any of these people was just the city

2412
02:13:22,000 --> 02:13:23,440
planning

2413
02:13:23,440 --> 02:13:25,679
department and that was the application

2414
02:13:25,679 --> 02:13:28,079
and again i'm going to reiterate that

2415
02:13:28,079 --> 02:13:30,400
no there's for nine thousand dollars

2416
02:13:30,400 --> 02:13:31,840
plus a little more

2417
02:13:31,840 --> 02:13:34,079
million plus a little more there can't

2418
02:13:34,079 --> 02:13:36,480
be a second round of applications

2419
02:13:36,480 --> 02:13:38,239
um with another again

2420
02:13:38,239 --> 02:13:40,320
how do we how do we we can't take care

2421
02:13:40,320 --> 02:13:42,000
of what we have here in front of us let

2422
02:13:42,000 --> 02:13:44,239
alone another second right so that's

2423
02:13:44,239 --> 02:13:48,950
where i am thank you

2424
02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:52,229
safari

2425
02:13:52,239 --> 02:13:56,560
okay so really so there were so i just want

2426
02:13:56,560 --> 02:13:58,159
to be clear that there were specific

2427
02:13:58,159 --> 02:14:00,320
applications for these projects every

2428
02:14:00,320 --> 02:14:02,400
project that we talked about there's a

2429
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:04,239
specific application

2430
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:05,840
um that was connected to that problem

2431
02:14:05,840 --> 02:14:08,239
that's that's a fact that's you know not

2432
02:14:08,239 --> 02:14:09,840
an opinion and

2433
02:14:09,840 --> 02:14:13,040
it's important you know that that we do

2434
02:14:13,040 --> 02:14:16,000
honor the process so we're not in here

2435
02:14:16,000 --> 02:14:18,159
right now saying we don't know if grant

2436
02:14:18,159 --> 02:14:20,000
park is one hundred thousand or five

2437
02:14:20,000 --> 02:14:22,000
hundred thousand or we're not just kind

2438
02:14:22,000 --> 02:14:22,880
of

2439
02:14:22,880 --> 02:14:24,880
taking our best swinging

2440
02:14:24,880 --> 02:14:28,550
into

2441
02:14:28,560 --> 02:14:29,920
all of the money

2442
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:32,560
right now but what we do need to do

2443
02:14:32,560 --> 02:14:34,480
is to give the people who didn't scream

2444
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:36,560
for silence or scream for grant park an

2445
02:14:36,560 --> 02:14:38,400
opportunity to scream now and then we

2446
02:14:38,400 --> 02:14:41,360
can say oh and screen i mean by via

2447
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:42,719
application and we can look at it and

2448
02:14:42,719 --> 02:14:45,040
say oh this is you know

2449
02:14:45,040 --> 02:14:47,119
what the scope of work is this is what

2450
02:14:47,119 --> 02:14:48,960
the cost is and this is how it ranks up

2451
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:50,320
against all the other applications that

2452
02:14:50,320 --> 02:14:53,360
we consider and that's why i strongly

2453
02:14:53,360 --> 02:14:57,109
suggest that um

2454
02:14:57,119 --> 02:14:59,440
uh correct me if i'm wrong but i believe

2455
02:14:59,440 --> 02:15:00,159
that

2456
02:15:00,159 --> 02:15:02,159
the applications that we made by my

2457
02:15:02,159 --> 02:15:03,760
department for the city we're not

2458
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:06,960
focused on parks that actually not we did not have

2459
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,599
any formal applications for parks the

2460
02:15:09,599 --> 02:15:11,679
applications at the time was at the

2461
02:15:11,679 --> 02:15:14,079
interpretation

2462
02:15:14,079 --> 02:15:15,840
right was the interpretation at the time

2463
02:15:15,840 --> 02:15:17,360
when we first got the money and i was

2464
02:15:17,360 --> 02:15:19,199
working with anthony was that we wanted

2465
02:15:19,199 --> 02:15:21,520
the money to be focused on very specific

2466
02:15:21,520 --> 02:15:25,040
code related things so city applications

2467
02:15:25,040 --> 02:15:28,480
were centered around ventilation hvac

2468
02:15:28,480 --> 02:15:30,320
improving some of our facilities so that

2469
02:15:30,320 --> 02:15:31,360
they were

2470
02:15:31,360 --> 02:15:33,280
better handling of

2471
02:15:33,280 --> 02:15:37,119
air my air filtration and climate and then as

2472
02:15:37,119 --> 02:15:38,719
we started advancing through this and we

2473
02:15:38,719 --> 02:15:40,320
learned about the you know the

2474
02:15:40,320 --> 02:15:41,760
restrictions or

2475
02:15:41,760 --> 02:15:44,239
less restrictiveness of it it started to

2476
02:15:44,239 --> 02:15:46,159
focus on well you know what we have a

2477
02:15:46,159 --> 02:15:48,159
lot of needs with parks

2478
02:15:48,159 --> 02:15:50,960
but the parks did not get applied it was

2479
02:15:50,960 --> 02:15:53,199
more of a list and the list was more of

2480
02:15:53,199 --> 02:15:55,440
where are our needs right now and how

2481
02:15:55,440 --> 02:15:58,560
can we you know um satisfy the needs so

2482
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:00,159
we had things so that's what i'm going

2483
02:16:00,159 --> 02:16:02,719
to get is it's just from our knowledge

2484
02:16:02,719 --> 02:16:05,280
of what the needs of the parks were

2485
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:06,880
there were no people that really came

2486
02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:08,639
out the reason that the tennis was we

2487
02:16:08,639 --> 02:16:10,159
had a meeting with the tennis people but

2488
02:16:10,159 --> 02:16:12,159
it was kind of unrelated to arc but it

2489
02:16:12,159 --> 02:16:14,480
was hey if we're going to once again why

2490
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:17,920
would i ask you in a month for a capital

2491
02:16:17,920 --> 02:16:20,800
money for a tennis facility if we can

2492
02:16:20,800 --> 02:16:23,280
use parker money for the tennis facility

2493
02:16:23,280 --> 02:16:25,520
so that's i just want to make sure that

2494
02:16:25,520 --> 02:16:28,000
we're clear on that is that and once

2495
02:16:28,000 --> 02:16:30,390
again

2496
02:16:30,400 --> 02:16:32,880
if we pass on certain things right for

2497
02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:34,880
instance we are looking like and

2498
02:16:34,880 --> 02:16:36,479
sounding like that we're going to take a

2499
02:16:36,479 --> 02:16:39,200
pass at something like improving uh

2500
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:41,599
ventilation at fire station one

2501
02:16:41,599 --> 02:16:43,359
do not be surprised

2502
02:16:43,359 --> 02:16:45,200
that in a couple of weeks when we have

2503
02:16:45,200 --> 02:16:47,519
our budget meeting you will see

2504
02:16:47,519 --> 02:16:49,439
improvement of ventilation for fire

2505
02:16:49,439 --> 02:16:52,319
station one because that is a baseline

2506
02:16:52,319 --> 02:16:55,359
need of the city the system is

2507
02:16:55,359 --> 02:16:57,120
antiquated it's original to the building

2508
02:16:57,120 --> 02:16:58,639
it needs to be upgraded

2509
02:16:58,639 --> 02:17:00,240
so that's why i just want to make sure

2510
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:02,240
we're clear um you know that's why i'm

2511
02:17:02,240 --> 02:17:03,840
really trying to stress to everybody at

2512
02:17:03,840 --> 02:17:05,920
the table the whole capital

2513
02:17:05,920 --> 02:17:07,439
non-capital thing is because just

2514
02:17:07,439 --> 02:17:09,439
because it doesn't get approved doesn't

2515
02:17:09,439 --> 02:17:11,599
mean you're not going to see it later

2516
02:17:11,599 --> 02:17:14,479
and you're going to be paying for it out

2517
02:17:14,479 --> 02:17:15,920
of it you know it's going to be a whole

2518
02:17:15,920 --> 02:17:19,200
thing you're going to be paying for that

2519
02:17:19,200 --> 02:17:20,160
right

2520
02:17:20,160 --> 02:17:23,200
my point and i agree my point is that if

2521
02:17:23,200 --> 02:17:25,200
i'm understanding this correctly is that

2522
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:26,719
capital funds

2523
02:17:26,719 --> 02:17:30,399
can be used to

2524
02:17:30,399 --> 02:17:32,960
for to to improve a park

2525
02:17:32,960 --> 02:17:34,240
right right

2526
02:17:34,240 --> 02:17:37,439
capital funds cannot be used to

2527
02:17:37,439 --> 02:17:39,840
allocate to a community agency that's

2528
02:17:39,840 --> 02:17:42,080
doing work in the community correct so

2529
02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:44,080
okay so with the limited

2530
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:44,800
uh

2531
02:17:44,800 --> 02:17:47,120
ability for uh

2532
02:17:47,120 --> 02:17:49,840
capital funds

2533
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:52,479
i think that we would definitely want to

2534
02:17:52,479 --> 02:17:53,840
make sure

2535
02:17:53,840 --> 02:17:58,399
that if there's funds that we can use to

2536
02:17:58,399 --> 02:17:59,280
uh

2537
02:17:59,280 --> 02:18:03,040
redo our parks and do um some of the

2538
02:18:03,040 --> 02:18:05,280
projects that fall within the parameters

2539
02:18:05,280 --> 02:18:06,559
background funds

2540
02:18:06,559 --> 02:18:11,439
then we i think it'd be wise for us to keep that in mind as we're looking at

2541
02:18:11,439 --> 02:18:14,080
this uh remainder amount of opera funds

2542
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:17,439
which can be used to do other things and

2543
02:18:17,439 --> 02:18:19,920
can be used to fund some of the uh

2544
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:21,920
community and local nonprofits that are

2545
02:18:21,920 --> 02:18:23,760
doing the important work that was

2546
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:26,319
directly related to the pandemic so

2547
02:18:26,319 --> 02:18:29,120
it seems like one pot is uh

2548
02:18:29,120 --> 02:18:31,120
a little more flexible flexible than

2549
02:18:31,120 --> 02:18:32,399
other and i think that we need to keep

2550
02:18:32,399 --> 02:18:35,280
that in mind as we talk about

2551
02:18:35,280 --> 02:18:37,920
and which i think is reason why it's

2552
02:18:37,920 --> 02:18:39,359
important that we do a second

2553
02:18:39,359 --> 02:18:43,830
applications

2554
02:18:43,840 --> 02:18:44,960
good

2555
02:18:44,960 --> 02:18:48,000
so my final topic he said you're all of

2556
02:18:48,000 --> 02:18:49,599
our opinions i think the biggest

2557
02:18:49,599 --> 02:18:51,760
difference between a good idea and a

2558
02:18:51,760 --> 02:18:53,920
good proposal is the additional work

2559
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:56,000
that's done and that i think needs to be

2560
02:18:56,000 --> 02:18:58,160
addressed no one is saying that there

2561
02:18:58,160 --> 02:19:00,479
aren't other facets of the community

2562
02:19:00,479 --> 02:19:02,960
that consider access to this money i

2563
02:19:02,960 --> 02:19:05,200
think the biggest issue and for me as a

2564
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:06,880
red flag is that our playing and

2565
02:19:06,880 --> 02:19:08,479
development engineering office doesn't

2566
02:19:08,479 --> 02:19:10,880
understand the full scope of the needs i

2567
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:14,319
think although we are pausing and

2568
02:19:14,319 --> 02:19:16,160
putting in place a hold on certain

2569
02:19:16,160 --> 02:19:18,559
aspects of the park's money

2570
02:19:18,559 --> 02:19:21,359
unless we have a a a

2571
02:19:21,359 --> 02:19:23,200
somewhat grasp

2572
02:19:23,200 --> 02:19:24,800
we can't hold the money forever which

2573
02:19:24,800 --> 02:19:26,880
has been the narrative that

2574
02:19:26,880 --> 02:19:29,120
many of the council members have made

2575
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:30,960
so i think

2576
02:19:30,960 --> 02:19:34,000
as the the tone of having a second round

2577
02:19:34,000 --> 02:19:36,319
it's learning from the process initially

2578
02:19:36,319 --> 02:19:38,160
learning and adapting

2579
02:19:38,160 --> 02:19:40,319
i myself was a huge proponent of having

2580
02:19:40,319 --> 02:19:42,559
a second round and by definition

2581
02:19:42,559 --> 02:19:44,880
any application or any future

2582
02:19:44,880 --> 02:19:46,800
considerations for the harp of money

2583
02:19:46,800 --> 02:19:48,479
outside of the deadline that we

2584
02:19:48,479 --> 02:19:49,920
established

2585
02:19:49,920 --> 02:19:51,920
is a variant of a second round whether

2586
02:19:51,920 --> 02:19:53,840
we want to call it that or not it is an

2587
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:56,319
additional consideration naturally that

2588
02:19:56,319 --> 02:19:58,640
is a point because we have a start date

2589
02:19:58,640 --> 02:19:59,920
and an ending for the deadline so

2590
02:19:59,920 --> 02:20:04,469
anything after is different

2591
02:20:04,479 --> 02:20:06,319
we knew from the beginning that we

2592
02:20:06,319 --> 02:20:09,120
received far too many applications

2593
02:20:09,120 --> 02:20:12,960
that was not an active thought and it was letting

2594
02:20:12,960 --> 02:20:14,800
the community know that

2595
02:20:14,800 --> 02:20:16,720
everything would not be considered i

2596
02:20:16,720 --> 02:20:17,920
think it'd be different if we told

2597
02:20:17,920 --> 02:20:19,520
everyone it is not if you're going to

2598
02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:21,680
receive funding it's wind then we are

2599
02:20:21,680 --> 02:20:23,840
facing a different situation but that's

2600
02:20:23,840 --> 02:20:26,000
not the narrative that was ever

2601
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:28,000
presented to the community it was

2602
02:20:28,000 --> 02:20:30,080
present your ideas we will have an

2603
02:20:30,080 --> 02:20:32,880
advisory committee to support

2604
02:20:32,880 --> 02:20:35,439
our use for the money

2605
02:20:35,439 --> 02:20:37,680
it was always an advisory would assist

2606
02:20:37,680 --> 02:20:39,200
us but the full

2607
02:20:39,200 --> 02:20:40,720
reasoning or the full allocation of

2608
02:20:40,720 --> 02:20:43,040
funds would rest with our council

2609
02:20:43,040 --> 02:20:44,800
so i think there is no issue with

2610
02:20:44,800 --> 02:20:46,240
although the pot of money is

2611
02:20:46,240 --> 02:20:50,160
substantially lesser than we anticipated

2612
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:51,680
nine million is still nine million

2613
02:20:51,680 --> 02:20:52,560
dollars

2614
02:20:52,560 --> 02:20:54,880
and that is a large amount of money and

2615
02:20:54,880 --> 02:20:56,399
i think regardless of whether someone

2616
02:20:56,399 --> 02:20:58,479
submits a project for 9.1 million

2617
02:20:58,479 --> 02:21:00,399
dollars i think allowing the community

2618
02:21:00,399 --> 02:21:03,120
to continue to interject on this process

2619
02:21:03,120 --> 02:21:05,200
is a form of transparency that i will

2620
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:06,240
always

2621
02:21:06,240 --> 02:21:08,080
bolster

2622
02:21:08,080 --> 02:21:10,720
i know every city project

2623
02:21:10,720 --> 02:21:12,560
just listening to these conversations

2624
02:21:12,560 --> 02:21:14,800
didn't submit a formal application i

2625
02:21:14,800 --> 02:21:16,960
think it is a poor narrative to send to

2626
02:21:16,960 --> 02:21:20,000
the community there are two standards

2627
02:21:20,000 --> 02:21:21,680
that we are going to employ

2628
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:23,920
see is not to abide by this but trust

2629
02:21:23,920 --> 02:21:25,520
that we're doing the good work and the

2630
02:21:25,520 --> 02:21:27,040
community need to do this think that

2631
02:21:27,040 --> 02:21:30,550
that's not the right move

2632
02:21:30,560 --> 02:21:32,479
go ahead please yeah the application

2633
02:21:32,479 --> 02:21:35,120
doesn't mean transparency

2634
02:21:35,120 --> 02:21:37,120
the transparency is the discussion at

2635
02:21:37,120 --> 02:21:39,040
this at this table

2636
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:41,439
and moving things forward and discussing

2637
02:21:41,439 --> 02:21:43,040
it appropriately

2638
02:21:43,040 --> 02:21:45,520
an application doesn't mean

2639
02:21:45,520 --> 02:21:47,200
much of anything other than there's a

2640
02:21:47,200 --> 02:21:48,479
group of people

2641
02:21:48,479 --> 02:21:50,560
who cared about something took time and

2642
02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:52,960
put effort into that flying board

2643
02:21:52,960 --> 02:21:55,280
but to sit there and say that there's

2644
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:57,600
city stuff

2645
02:21:57,600 --> 02:22:00,640
that needs to be addressed

2646
02:22:00,640 --> 02:22:02,160
but

2647
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:03,760
we have to apply

2648
02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:07,120
as city employees for this money

2649
02:22:07,120 --> 02:22:11,040
when we're addressing a community need

2650
02:22:11,040 --> 02:22:12,720
is observed

2651
02:22:12,720 --> 02:22:14,240
period

2652
02:22:14,240 --> 02:22:15,040
and

2653
02:22:15,040 --> 02:22:17,040
to your point about the capital money

2654
02:22:17,040 --> 02:22:19,120
yeah capital is

2655
02:22:19,120 --> 02:22:20,640
not as flexible

2656
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:22,800
but capital has to be paid back with

2657
02:22:22,800 --> 02:22:24,880
interest there's also

2658
02:22:24,880 --> 02:22:26,160
a

2659
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:27,600
bond limit

2660
02:22:27,600 --> 02:22:30,880
so we can only bond so much

2661
02:22:30,880 --> 02:22:33,280
so we have real issues in regards to

2662
02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:37,120
that in terms of taxation

2663
02:22:37,120 --> 02:22:39,600
and how we leverage our money

2664
02:22:39,600 --> 02:22:42,640
and that hasn't been considered at all

2665
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:50,870
not one single iota

2666
02:22:50,880 --> 02:22:51,760
so

2667
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:53,200
i i

2668
02:22:53,200 --> 02:22:55,040
didn't think i need to make this point

2669
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:56,960
but apparently i do

2670
02:22:56,960 --> 02:22:59,680
i'm i'm pretty sure everyone if you're

2671
02:22:59,680 --> 02:23:01,920
if anyone is if this shouldn't be lost

2672
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:03,920
on anyone but the city could use more

2673
02:23:03,920 --> 02:23:06,240
money right like that's

2674
02:23:06,240 --> 02:23:09,040
we there's there's a huge need and we

2675
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:11,200
and and if someone else wanted to say

2676
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:13,040
here's schenectady take another 50

2677
02:23:13,040 --> 02:23:14,800
million dollars in funds none of us are

2678
02:23:14,800 --> 02:23:16,640
going to turn that away right like so

2679
02:23:16,640 --> 02:23:18,080
there's there's calculations and

2680
02:23:18,080 --> 02:23:20,240
decisions that have to be made um at

2681
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:22,880
every point what i'm saying is that if

2682
02:23:22,880 --> 02:23:25,359
there is capital money

2683
02:23:25,359 --> 02:23:27,120
that some of the projects that we're

2684
02:23:27,120 --> 02:23:29,439
bringing forth can be paid for by that

2685
02:23:29,439 --> 02:23:30,960
capital money then we need to consider

2686
02:23:30,960 --> 02:23:33,520
that when we talk about um

2687
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,560
what this opera money is for so

2688
02:23:36,560 --> 02:23:37,600
of course

2689
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:38,960
there's there's a

2690
02:23:38,960 --> 02:23:40,399
greater need

2691
02:23:40,399 --> 02:23:42,479
than there is resources

2692
02:23:42,479 --> 02:23:43,760
um

2693
02:23:43,760 --> 02:23:45,120
that's why

2694
02:23:45,120 --> 02:23:47,840
we are in the seats we're in to make

2695
02:23:47,840 --> 02:23:49,200
these calculations and make these

2696
02:23:49,200 --> 02:23:52,640
decisions based on community input and

2697
02:23:52,640 --> 02:23:55,600
community of engagement

2698
02:23:55,600 --> 02:23:57,680
we were really clear with the community

2699
02:23:57,680 --> 02:23:59,040
that we were not going to make these

2700
02:23:59,040 --> 02:24:00,640
decisions for them we're going to make

2701
02:24:00,640 --> 02:24:02,640
these decisions with them

2702
02:24:02,640 --> 02:24:05,120
so and we give people another

2703
02:24:05,120 --> 02:24:06,319
opportunity

2704
02:24:06,319 --> 02:24:09,280
to advocate for projects and things that

2705
02:24:09,280 --> 02:24:10,560
they think are important in the

2706
02:24:10,560 --> 02:24:12,720
community i think that we are always

2707
02:24:12,720 --> 02:24:14,880
going to be a better more participatory

2708
02:24:14,880 --> 02:24:16,560
government by doing so why would

2709
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:20,150
knowledge

2710
02:24:20,160 --> 02:24:21,680
i don't know why is because we could

2711
02:24:21,680 --> 02:24:23,600
have leveraged the money and we could

2712
02:24:23,600 --> 02:24:25,520
have leveraged it with the bond money

2713
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:27,680
and grant money and think about this

2714
02:24:27,680 --> 02:24:29,680
thing we could have gotten a lot more

2715
02:24:29,680 --> 02:24:31,600
projects done than we actually did

2716
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:32,960
that's why

2717
02:24:32,960 --> 02:24:35,190
so

2718
02:24:35,200 --> 02:24:36,800
okay

2719
02:24:36,800 --> 02:24:38,880
right and

2720
02:24:38,880 --> 02:24:41,920
i don't recall throughout this process

2721
02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:43,840
and i think that it's very

2722
02:24:43,840 --> 02:24:44,880
you know

2723
02:24:44,880 --> 02:24:48,479
it's interesting that we're here now

2724
02:24:48,479 --> 02:24:49,920
and

2725
02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:52,399
now we're introducing you know these

2726
02:24:52,399 --> 02:24:53,280
great

2727
02:24:53,280 --> 02:24:55,520
ideas which

2728
02:24:55,520 --> 02:24:57,359
i think we've been really welcoming to

2729
02:24:57,359 --> 02:24:58,319
say like

2730
02:24:58,319 --> 02:25:00,399
jump in the water's warm here if you

2731
02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:02,479
have ideas on how we can leverage money

2732
02:25:02,479 --> 02:25:04,800
and do this absolutely and that's been

2733
02:25:04,800 --> 02:25:07,760
said from day one

2734
02:25:07,760 --> 02:25:12,000
all right please let's have a go ahead

2735
02:25:12,000 --> 02:25:13,520
so

2736
02:25:13,520 --> 02:25:16,399
my point is this is that

2737
02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:19,280
we need to listen to our community

2738
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:21,439
this art of money is here for a reason a

2739
02:25:21,439 --> 02:25:23,520
very a specific reason

2740
02:25:23,520 --> 02:25:25,600
that we need to listen to our community

2741
02:25:25,600 --> 02:25:27,120
and make sure that their voices are

2742
02:25:27,120 --> 02:25:28,800
heard and we're not just going to be

2743
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:31,600
making our decisions in a silo around

2744
02:25:31,600 --> 02:25:34,560
what we think is best for them we don't

2745
02:25:34,560 --> 02:25:37,359
need to do that we need to allow access

2746
02:25:37,359 --> 02:25:39,520
increase access and opportunity to

2747
02:25:39,520 --> 02:25:41,120
participate in this process and that's

2748
02:25:41,120 --> 02:25:42,560
what we need to continue to do when you

2749
02:25:42,560 --> 02:25:44,479
do that with another application process

2750
02:25:44,479 --> 02:25:46,479
and several initiatives that's my

2751
02:25:46,479 --> 02:25:48,319
investment

2752
02:25:48,319 --> 02:25:50,479
um but i don't need to deadpool so you

2753
02:25:50,479 --> 02:25:52,000
know okay we can definitely talk

2754
02:25:52,000 --> 02:25:53,439
afterwards

2755
02:25:53,439 --> 02:25:55,840
mr wallin you mentioned uh with regards

2756
02:25:55,840 --> 02:25:58,399
to the firehouse uh renovation

2757
02:25:58,399 --> 02:26:01,520
i'm looking at amazon mccarthy proposal

2758
02:26:01,520 --> 02:26:03,920
you don't have it on here as

2759
02:26:03,920 --> 02:26:06,399
an infrastructure project could there be

2760
02:26:06,399 --> 02:26:08,319
reason why um we're waiting on the

2761
02:26:08,319 --> 02:26:09,600
infrastructure money additional

2762
02:26:09,600 --> 02:26:12,000
infrastructure money coming in and then

2763
02:26:12,000 --> 02:26:14,880
we assign someone here

2764
02:26:14,880 --> 02:26:21,110
i know you can't speak to them

2765
02:26:21,120 --> 02:26:23,040
that is not on this proposal but there

2766
02:26:23,040 --> 02:26:24,560
could be reason why it's not on this

2767
02:26:24,560 --> 02:26:25,680
proposal

2768
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:27,600
that maybe it's going to be funded and

2769
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:28,720
true i

2770
02:26:28,720 --> 02:26:30,880
think that the mayor's office uh and

2771
02:26:30,880 --> 02:26:32,319
kristen i don't know if you were working

2772
02:26:32,319 --> 02:26:34,160
without but it was the mayor's office

2773
02:26:34,160 --> 02:26:36,720
that we decided to uh look at parks and

2774
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:39,520
not uh city facilities and there was so

2775
02:26:39,520 --> 02:26:40,720
i don't believe there were any city

2776
02:26:40,720 --> 02:26:42,319
facilities on the list

2777
02:26:42,319 --> 02:26:44,960
originally when it was submitted so that

2778
02:26:44,960 --> 02:26:47,520
i just wanted to talk

2779
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:48,880
yeah well the whole reason was i just

2780
02:26:48,880 --> 02:26:50,319
wanted to make sure that was required

2781
02:26:50,319 --> 02:26:51,760
when he was talking about applications

2782
02:26:51,760 --> 02:26:54,080
was the applications that were made back

2783
02:26:54,080 --> 02:26:57,040
to mr williams point in january or when

2784
02:26:57,040 --> 02:26:58,720
we made those applications

2785
02:26:58,720 --> 02:26:59,920
um

2786
02:26:59,920 --> 02:27:02,399
they kind of got stale and then the idea

2787
02:27:02,399 --> 02:27:04,240
was that we learned more about the money

2788
02:27:04,240 --> 02:27:07,200
we changed to this park idea but we did

2789
02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:08,720
not make applications that's why i just

2790
02:27:08,720 --> 02:27:10,399
wanted to make sure we're all that if

2791
02:27:10,399 --> 02:27:12,800
you went that's that's kind of the

2792
02:27:12,800 --> 02:27:14,399
reason that we're struggling with the

2793
02:27:14,399 --> 02:27:16,000
whole you know what is it what are we

2794
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:18,319
doing we know we have needs we're trying

2795
02:27:18,319 --> 02:27:20,560
to fill those needs but we didn't get on

2796
02:27:20,560 --> 02:27:23,359
every one of these a detailed uh scope

2797
02:27:23,359 --> 02:27:25,280
or application it's just where we know

2798
02:27:25,280 --> 02:27:27,840
that we have a need and i'm thinking

2799
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:29,040
maybe there's a reason why

2800
02:27:29,040 --> 02:27:30,720
infrastructure was not

2801
02:27:30,720 --> 02:27:33,439
placed on the main proposal

2802
02:27:33,439 --> 02:27:35,359
later on for consideration when we

2803
02:27:35,359 --> 02:27:41,429
received the construction

2804
02:27:41,439 --> 02:27:43,040
i don't want you guys

2805
02:27:43,040 --> 02:27:44,800
the consul sorry not you guys the

2806
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:50,080
council to talk about these items and allocate this money and then have me

2807
02:27:50,080 --> 02:27:52,479
come back at a later date after the

2808
02:27:52,479 --> 02:27:54,640
allocation and say

2809
02:27:54,640 --> 02:27:56,399
wait a minute what are we doing

2810
02:27:56,399 --> 02:27:58,240
you know i just i don't want i don't

2811
02:27:58,240 --> 02:27:59,520
want that to be because that's going to

2812
02:27:59,520 --> 02:28:01,359
reflect on me and i don't want that to

2813
02:28:01,359 --> 02:28:02,479
reflect on me because i'm going to be

2814
02:28:02,479 --> 02:28:04,240
the one bringing the capital budget with

2815
02:28:04,240 --> 02:28:08,150
mr ferrari

2816
02:28:08,160 --> 02:28:09,920
so the first round of funding we were

2817
02:28:09,920 --> 02:28:12,399
getting to that show was 26 million or

2818
02:28:12,399 --> 02:28:13,760
whatever so then we put out the

2819
02:28:13,760 --> 02:28:16,479
applications did we do wrong by going

2820
02:28:16,479 --> 02:28:19,680
over that 26 million with these first

2821
02:28:19,680 --> 02:28:22,000
round applications before the second

2822
02:28:22,000 --> 02:28:33,830
round of funding even came in

2823
02:28:33,840 --> 02:28:36,080
so just to be clear um our first round

2824
02:28:36,080 --> 02:28:38,000
of applications was not the entire 26

2825
02:28:38,000 --> 02:28:40,399
million because there was already um

2826
02:28:40,399 --> 02:28:43,200
allocations from from the city

2827
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:44,960
um there was already money that was um

2828
02:28:44,960 --> 02:28:46,880
taken from the city in the amount of 16

2829
02:28:46,880 --> 02:28:49,040
million so when the first round of

2830
02:28:49,040 --> 02:28:50,880
applications went out it was closer to

2831
02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:52,800
11 million dollars

2832
02:28:52,800 --> 02:28:54,399
okay so it wasn't

2833
02:28:54,399 --> 02:28:56,560
26. and so

2834
02:28:56,560 --> 02:28:58,080
uh if you're asking which should we have

2835
02:28:58,080 --> 02:28:59,920
waited for all the money um the

2836
02:28:59,920 --> 02:29:01,600
application process was something that

2837
02:29:01,600 --> 02:29:03,120
was part of the mayor's tour and

2838
02:29:03,120 --> 02:29:04,640
application process and that was the

2839
02:29:04,640 --> 02:29:06,080
decision that was made how that was not

2840
02:29:06,080 --> 02:29:08,640
our decision to to make so should we

2841
02:29:08,640 --> 02:29:10,479
await her to i like at this point i'm

2842
02:29:10,479 --> 02:29:12,000
just wondering if the first round of

2843
02:29:12,000 --> 02:29:14,080
funding was only 11 million

2844
02:29:14,080 --> 02:29:16,720
we got a request for 76 million so if

2845
02:29:16,720 --> 02:29:18,399
we're doing a second round of funding

2846
02:29:18,399 --> 02:29:20,319
which i'm not in favor of have we

2847
02:29:20,319 --> 02:29:22,640
already spent part of that funding

2848
02:29:22,640 --> 02:29:24,800
yeah for the second year

2849
02:29:24,800 --> 02:29:26,560
so you're saying yeah you're not in

2850
02:29:26,560 --> 02:29:28,960
favor of doing a second round of funding

2851
02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:31,520
no i'm not in round of a a second well

2852
02:29:31,520 --> 02:29:34,080
application application process

2853
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:36,479
but again i mean did we overspend

2854
02:29:36,479 --> 02:29:39,200
already before putting out was it not

2855
02:29:39,200 --> 02:29:40,880
fair putting out the first round of

2856
02:29:40,880 --> 02:29:43,200
funding applications for the first

2857
02:29:43,200 --> 02:29:45,040
funding of the article money

2858
02:29:45,040 --> 02:29:47,200
and then the second

2859
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:49,200
round of applications for the second

2860
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:52,640
round of funding for the 26 million

2861
02:29:52,640 --> 02:29:53,680
just

2862
02:29:53,680 --> 02:29:55,359
you know when we only have nine million

2863
02:29:55,359 --> 02:29:57,200
plus a little more left to spend 11

2864
02:29:57,200 --> 02:29:58,160
million

2865
02:29:58,160 --> 02:29:59,600
just say

2866
02:29:59,600 --> 02:30:04,550
just putting that we don't know

2867
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,429
so it was

2868
02:30:07,439 --> 02:30:09,280
again

2869
02:30:09,280 --> 02:30:11,359
there's still applications here

2870
02:30:11,359 --> 02:30:12,640
you know

2871
02:30:12,640 --> 02:30:13,439
that

2872
02:30:13,439 --> 02:30:15,680
just because maybe

2873
02:30:15,680 --> 02:30:17,760
none of us are advocating for those

2874
02:30:17,760 --> 02:30:20,399
doesn't mean they don't deserve it

2875
02:30:20,399 --> 02:30:22,479
i'm just putting that out there i guess

2876
02:30:22,479 --> 02:30:24,399
there's always going to be a need for

2877
02:30:24,399 --> 02:30:30,830
someone else

2878
02:30:30,840 --> 02:30:33,680
always ahead so how do we suggest how do

2879
02:30:33,680 --> 02:30:35,120
we address

2880
02:30:35,120 --> 02:30:36,000
the

2881
02:30:36,000 --> 02:30:38,080
you know the indication the implication

2882
02:30:38,080 --> 02:30:39,600
that we were going to do a second round

2883
02:30:39,600 --> 02:30:41,439
i think that we need to in some way

2884
02:30:41,439 --> 02:30:42,560
address that

2885
02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:44,960
and not to prove it hanging out there

2886
02:30:44,960 --> 02:30:47,120
by what i said all right

2887
02:30:47,120 --> 02:30:48,800
first of all the invitation was only

2888
02:30:48,800 --> 02:30:51,439
made by a few members of the council

2889
02:30:51,439 --> 02:30:53,280
it wasn't the entire council and the

2890
02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:56,000
mayor okay well the math whatever it

2891
02:30:56,000 --> 02:30:59,200
still wasn't the entire council

2892
02:30:59,200 --> 02:31:02,880
so we can say we implied it no we didn't

2893
02:31:02,880 --> 02:31:05,200
certain members applied it and there was

2894
02:31:05,200 --> 02:31:08,800
nothing ever finally finally decided

2895
02:31:08,800 --> 02:31:11,680
so we can decide now because

2896
02:31:11,680 --> 02:31:14,160
people in the community have that i can

2897
02:31:14,160 --> 02:31:15,760
tell you i'm sure you oh i can't say i'm

2898
02:31:15,760 --> 02:31:16,640
sure you've heard it because i don't

2899
02:31:16,640 --> 02:31:18,479
know what you've heard but i know that i

2900
02:31:18,479 --> 02:31:20,720
for a fact have heard it as recently as

2901
02:31:20,720 --> 02:31:22,319
this weekend

2902
02:31:22,319 --> 02:31:24,319
so and um it's been reported in the

2903
02:31:24,319 --> 02:31:25,840
newspaper that there will be a second

2904
02:31:25,840 --> 02:31:28,880
round so it's not like

2905
02:31:28,880 --> 02:31:33,190
uh an idea that just came up today

2906
02:31:33,200 --> 02:31:34,880
well of course there's gonna be the

2907
02:31:34,880 --> 02:31:36,399
thought that there's because you've been

2908
02:31:36,399 --> 02:31:37,840
going around saying there's gonna be a

2909
02:31:37,840 --> 02:31:39,840
second one you put it in the newspaper

2910
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:41,840
there's gonna be a second one so of

2911
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:43,680
course people are going to have that

2912
02:31:43,680 --> 02:31:46,560
understanding but that was not a kind of

2913
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:47,680
decision

2914
02:31:47,680 --> 02:31:49,600
oh just to be clear i did not predict my

2915
02:31:49,600 --> 02:31:51,540
newspaper

2916
02:31:51,540 --> 02:31:53,600
[Music]

2917
02:31:53,600 --> 02:31:54,880
i think while we

2918
02:31:54,880 --> 02:31:56,479
i'm trying to recall when we discussed

2919
02:31:56,479 --> 02:31:58,960
this mccarthy was and i'm not going to

2920
02:31:58,960 --> 02:32:00,240
speak to him

2921
02:32:00,240 --> 02:32:02,319
he was more in favor of yes he can you

2922
02:32:02,319 --> 02:32:05,760
know have his staff open up for around

2923
02:32:05,760 --> 02:32:07,359
entertaining

2924
02:32:07,359 --> 02:32:10,399
application or other projects i mean

2925
02:32:10,399 --> 02:32:12,560
i've heard good argument from both side

2926
02:32:12,560 --> 02:32:14,960
here tonight and

2927
02:32:14,960 --> 02:32:17,120
i mean everybody has valid problems in

2928
02:32:17,120 --> 02:32:19,840
terms of opening up not opening up

2929
02:32:19,840 --> 02:32:21,520
i mean

2930
02:32:21,520 --> 02:32:22,880
i'm on the fence

2931
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:24,560
i need some more time to process in

2932
02:32:24,560 --> 02:32:26,800
terms of

2933
02:32:26,800 --> 02:32:28,720
what should we do really

2934
02:32:28,720 --> 02:32:30,319
how many more people how many more

2935
02:32:30,319 --> 02:32:31,920
organizations are out there that needs

2936
02:32:31,920 --> 02:32:34,720
to submit an application

2937
02:32:34,720 --> 02:32:38,080
how many organizations miss the deadline

2938
02:32:38,080 --> 02:32:40,000
and what can we do as a council to

2939
02:32:40,000 --> 02:32:43,200
accommodate the ones that are out there

2940
02:32:43,200 --> 02:32:45,359
and can we do some things you know the

2941
02:32:45,359 --> 02:32:46,479
council

2942
02:32:46,479 --> 02:32:49,840
to accommodate these organizations

2943
02:32:49,840 --> 02:32:53,439
that would like to submit an application

2944
02:32:53,439 --> 02:32:55,280
whoever missed the application he needs

2945
02:32:55,280 --> 02:32:56,800
to revise the application and things

2946
02:32:56,800 --> 02:32:57,760
like that

2947
02:32:57,760 --> 02:32:59,680
but right now i am not in a position to

2948
02:32:59,680 --> 02:33:03,040
make a determination i decide

2949
02:33:03,040 --> 02:33:05,200
i think i need to sit on it for two more

2950
02:33:05,200 --> 02:33:07,920
weeks and come up with

2951
02:33:07,920 --> 02:33:09,280
a support

2952
02:33:09,280 --> 02:33:10,560
for our games

2953
02:33:10,560 --> 02:33:12,240
in terms of where we open or we don't

2954
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:14,880
open or we reach out to our organization

2955
02:33:14,880 --> 02:33:17,040
to summon the application we reach out

2956
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:18,560
to the department of development or come

2957
02:33:18,560 --> 02:33:21,040
up with an estimated or engineering

2958
02:33:21,040 --> 02:33:23,280
department on the parts the additional

2959
02:33:23,280 --> 02:33:25,120
parts that we need to fund

2960
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:26,399
should we

2961
02:33:26,399 --> 02:33:29,120
get money there to resign fees and have

2962
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:31,680
it years up there and you know

2963
02:33:31,680 --> 02:33:33,920
things of that we need to process i

2964
02:33:33,920 --> 02:33:36,319
don't think i don't recommend that we

2965
02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:38,640
push forward tonight on this i think we

2966
02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:40,800
need to sit on it and let's come back in

2967
02:33:40,800 --> 02:33:42,560
two weeks time

2968
02:33:42,560 --> 02:33:44,800
they always room for us

2969
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:46,000
time is

2970
02:33:46,000 --> 02:33:49,120
we're not behind on time time is um good

2971
02:33:49,120 --> 02:33:50,240
on timing

2972
02:33:50,240 --> 02:33:52,160
we're moving ahead rapidly here in terms

2973
02:33:52,160 --> 02:33:54,399
of allocating this funding

2974
02:33:54,399 --> 02:33:55,840
and i think we just need to stick with

2975
02:33:55,840 --> 02:34:02,790
that

2976
02:34:02,800 --> 02:34:04,560
and i don't think you should shoulder

2977
02:34:04,560 --> 02:34:06,880
the weight of investing more time

2978
02:34:06,880 --> 02:34:09,040
because i would advocate that we wait to

2979
02:34:09,040 --> 02:34:10,560
have this discussion with ms patrick

2980
02:34:10,560 --> 02:34:12,399
here um so i think this is a decision

2981
02:34:12,399 --> 02:34:14,240
that would affect all of us equally as

2982
02:34:14,240 --> 02:34:17,520
we continue through our tenures

2983
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:19,520
for better or worse i i yield to the

2984
02:34:19,520 --> 02:34:22,080
fact mr palmini that you have more of an

2985
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:23,840
economics expertise than i have

2986
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:26,319
comparative advantage i do not know that

2987
02:34:26,319 --> 02:34:28,800
or advocate in that realm

2988
02:34:28,800 --> 02:34:31,120
i just know that if we are truly to

2989
02:34:31,120 --> 02:34:34,000
learn from this first rendition

2990
02:34:34,000 --> 02:34:35,680
the only way that we're going to truly

2991
02:34:35,680 --> 02:34:38,319
make sure all of skype is advocating for

2992
02:34:38,319 --> 02:34:40,560
it or is being advocated for is working

2993
02:34:40,560 --> 02:34:43,760
together so if you have a recommendation

2994
02:34:43,760 --> 02:34:46,560
for how to adjust our policy for me

2995
02:34:46,560 --> 02:34:49,600
personally that incorporates

2996
02:34:49,600 --> 02:34:51,680
having a variant of a second round i'm

2997
02:34:51,680 --> 02:34:54,080
absolutely wrong

2998
02:34:54,080 --> 02:34:56,319
and i've said from day one to use look

2999
02:34:56,319 --> 02:34:58,960
at the grant and the bonding in the

3000
02:34:58,960 --> 02:35:01,040
borrowing money from day one i've said

3001
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:02,319
that

3002
02:35:02,319 --> 02:35:04,720
yeah i i'm just going to go back i mean

3003
02:35:04,720 --> 02:35:06,880
the last rounds we did allocate you know

3004
02:35:06,880 --> 02:35:08,960
simple project and a lot of divorce

3005
02:35:08,960 --> 02:35:11,280
project and this runs here

3006
02:35:11,280 --> 02:35:14,640
based on what we are proposing here 11.4

3007
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:17,359
million almost 11.4 million dollars it's

3008
02:35:17,359 --> 02:35:18,960
a lot of diverse projects across the

3009
02:35:18,960 --> 02:35:21,760
board parks neighborhood association you

3010
02:35:21,760 --> 02:35:22,640
know

3011
02:35:22,640 --> 02:35:24,560
community organization

3012
02:35:24,560 --> 02:35:26,800
i think we are moving the right

3013
02:35:26,800 --> 02:35:29,520
direction let's you know let's discuss

3014
02:35:29,520 --> 02:35:31,120
bring it to the tables

3015
02:35:31,120 --> 02:35:32,479
and let's continue to have these

3016
02:35:32,479 --> 02:35:34,080
meaningful discussions as we move

3017
02:35:34,080 --> 02:35:35,600
forward

3018
02:35:35,600 --> 02:35:37,680
i just i just want all my colleagues to

3019
02:35:37,680 --> 02:35:39,439
be prepared to answer to the voices of

3020
02:35:39,439 --> 02:35:40,560
the community

3021
02:35:40,560 --> 02:35:42,319
who um

3022
02:35:42,319 --> 02:35:45,439
or under the expectation that

3023
02:35:45,439 --> 02:35:48,160
they would have an opportunity um to

3024
02:35:48,160 --> 02:35:49,680
apply

3025
02:35:49,680 --> 02:35:50,720
uh

3026
02:35:50,720 --> 02:35:53,359
for this funding and

3027
02:35:53,359 --> 02:35:55,040
i

3028
02:35:55,040 --> 02:35:57,520
respectfully um

3029
02:35:57,520 --> 02:36:00,000
disagree with with the waiting

3030
02:36:00,000 --> 02:36:01,439
um i think that

3031
02:36:01,439 --> 02:36:04,479
a lot of the criticism that we've been

3032
02:36:04,479 --> 02:36:06,960
receiving and

3033
02:36:06,960 --> 02:36:09,120
has been around the timeline the things

3034
02:36:09,120 --> 02:36:11,760
have been going i think that you know

3035
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:14,720
we have an obligation to

3036
02:36:14,720 --> 02:36:16,640
listen to the community and more

3037
02:36:16,640 --> 02:36:19,040
community feedback and more i'm

3038
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:20,479
presenting more opportunities to our

3039
02:36:20,479 --> 02:36:23,040
community is never a bad thing and i and

3040
02:36:23,040 --> 02:36:24,160
i

3041
02:36:24,160 --> 02:36:27,120
strongly uh suggest that we listen to

3042
02:36:27,120 --> 02:36:30,070
those voices

3043
02:36:30,080 --> 02:36:33,600
go ahead please so um so i am in favor

3044
02:36:33,600 --> 02:36:35,680
of us doing some variant of the second

3045
02:36:35,680 --> 02:36:41,110
round as we have continually discussed

3046
02:36:41,120 --> 02:36:43,520
as i said before i'm not asking for

3047
02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:45,840
there to be an advisory committee again

3048
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:48,319
although let me just also say that i

3049
02:36:48,319 --> 02:36:50,560
a member of the advisory committee did

3050
02:36:50,560 --> 02:36:52,319
um call me and we didn't have to have a

3051
02:36:52,319 --> 02:36:54,080
meeting until they gave some feedback

3052
02:36:54,080 --> 02:36:56,080
saying it wasn't it wasn't a bad idea we

3053
02:36:56,080 --> 02:36:57,359
just needed to do some things

3054
02:36:57,359 --> 02:36:59,280
differently we don't have time for that

3055
02:36:59,280 --> 02:37:01,680
i'm not asking for that but however i

3056
02:37:01,680 --> 02:37:04,479
think i believe that we should have some

3057
02:37:04,479 --> 02:37:06,080
variant of the second round it may not

3058
02:37:06,080 --> 02:37:08,720
need to be exactly like the first round

3059
02:37:08,720 --> 02:37:11,040
but we've discussed it and there are

3060
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,359
projects out there that um

3061
02:37:13,359 --> 02:37:15,280
community projects that has already been

3062
02:37:15,280 --> 02:37:17,520
said can't be funded by other things

3063
02:37:17,520 --> 02:37:18,800
that we should be able to give

3064
02:37:18,800 --> 02:37:21,200
consideration to and perhaps there won't

3065
02:37:21,200 --> 02:37:24,240
be as many as we think we don't know

3066
02:37:24,240 --> 02:37:26,000
but i do think the opportunity should be

3067
02:37:26,000 --> 02:37:27,680
provided so

3068
02:37:27,680 --> 02:37:29,680
i would say that and i also i think that

3069
02:37:29,680 --> 02:37:32,880
we you know we um recommended some good

3070
02:37:32,880 --> 02:37:35,200
projects for funding uh

3071
02:37:35,200 --> 02:37:37,439
almost everyone here i believe has input

3072
02:37:37,439 --> 02:37:39,840
into that so i think that that part is

3073
02:37:39,840 --> 02:37:42,399
good however i also think that we should

3074
02:37:42,399 --> 02:37:43,840
extend a little further and do that

3075
02:37:43,840 --> 02:37:46,800
second round which has been talked about

3076
02:37:46,800 --> 02:37:52,469
in in various ways

3077
02:37:52,479 --> 02:37:54,720
okay so i recommend that we have it back

3078
02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:56,960
after the discussion next cycle if you

3079
02:37:56,960 --> 02:37:58,560
don't please continue to have this on

3080
02:37:58,560 --> 02:37:59,680
the agenda

3081
02:37:59,680 --> 02:38:00,399
add

3082
02:38:00,399 --> 02:38:02,640
a separate discussion also

3083
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:05,200
in terms of reopening or not reopening

3084
02:38:05,200 --> 02:38:06,000
the

3085
02:38:06,000 --> 02:38:07,680
this application process as a separate

3086
02:38:07,680 --> 02:38:10,960
item if you don't mind miss porterfield

3087
02:38:10,960 --> 02:38:12,560
it's putting on the intelligence

3088
02:38:12,560 --> 02:38:14,640
coming away from their

3089
02:38:14,640 --> 02:38:15,840
location okay

3090
02:38:15,840 --> 02:38:19,120
that's two separate things okay

3091
02:38:19,120 --> 02:38:20,960
so i think we're going to move forward

3092
02:38:20,960 --> 02:38:25,520
with allocating 11 million 383 857 this

3093
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:27,439
evening and i will just ask mr colding

3094
02:38:27,439 --> 02:38:29,520
to just give go through a summary of

3095
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:30,800
what he has

3096
02:38:30,800 --> 02:38:31,680
there

3097
02:38:31,680 --> 02:38:34,319
and we can all if we are any arrow we

3098
02:38:34,319 --> 02:38:37,040
can always um make adjustments whatever

3099
02:38:37,040 --> 02:38:38,720
it was when i go through this um it's

3100
02:38:38,720 --> 02:38:40,560
gonna be the appropriations and then

3101
02:38:40,560 --> 02:38:42,399
entering into particular contracts and

3102
02:38:42,399 --> 02:38:43,920
if there are contingencies on some of

3103
02:38:43,920 --> 02:38:45,359
these contracts

3104
02:38:45,359 --> 02:38:48,160
um let me know right so i know that

3105
02:38:48,160 --> 02:38:49,760
there's one obviously

3106
02:38:49,760 --> 02:38:51,439
when i get to the stock gate association

3107
02:38:51,439 --> 02:38:54,720
would they have to have raised 750 000

3108
02:38:54,720 --> 02:38:55,920
to match

3109
02:38:55,920 --> 02:38:57,840
um i don't know if there are others on

3110
02:38:57,840 --> 02:38:59,760
other projects but let me go through it

3111
02:38:59,760 --> 02:39:00,960
first okay

3112
02:39:00,960 --> 02:39:03,760
so um to appropriate the following funds

3113
02:39:03,760 --> 02:39:05,600
uh hillhurst park five hundred thousand

3114
02:39:05,600 --> 02:39:08,160
dollars hillhurst pool 250 thousand

3115
02:39:08,160 --> 02:39:09,920
dollars the a diamond project five

3116
02:39:09,920 --> 02:39:11,520
hundred thousand dollars

3117
02:39:11,520 --> 02:39:13,200
central park tennis courts five hundred

3118
02:39:13,200 --> 02:39:16,399
thousand dollars riverside um park

3119
02:39:16,399 --> 02:39:18,000
courts two hundred and fifty thousand

3120
02:39:18,000 --> 02:39:21,120
dollars uh jerry burrell uh five hundred

3121
02:39:21,120 --> 02:39:23,520
thousand dollars uh the central park

3122
02:39:23,520 --> 02:39:25,600
general site improvements adding one

3123
02:39:25,600 --> 02:39:27,280
million dollars to what's been uh

3124
02:39:27,280 --> 02:39:29,359
already appropriated

3125
02:39:29,359 --> 02:39:31,040
bcni

3126
02:39:31,040 --> 02:39:32,760
um

3127
02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:37,040
1.75 million dollars total of which

3128
02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:39,439
dollars for 250.000 prevention five

3129
02:39:39,439 --> 02:39:41,600
hundred thousand dollars for infill one

3130
02:39:41,600 --> 02:39:43,520
million dollars for repair and rehab and

3131
02:39:43,520 --> 02:39:45,359
we can go over contingencies at the end

3132
02:39:45,359 --> 02:39:47,680
for those okay that makes sense yeah

3133
02:39:47,680 --> 02:39:51,120
okay uh city hall hbac

3134
02:39:51,120 --> 02:39:54,880
uh 352 000. electric city co-op 1

3135
02:39:54,880 --> 02:39:57,359
million dollars hamilton hill art center

3136
02:39:57,359 --> 02:40:01,920
1.2 million dollars coco house 500 000

3137
02:40:01,920 --> 02:40:07,120
boys and girls club 331 408 dollars ywca

3138
02:40:07,120 --> 02:40:08,720
for critical needs three hundred and

3139
02:40:08,720 --> 02:40:10,319
sixty four thousand four hundred and

3140
02:40:10,319 --> 02:40:11,840
forty nine dollars

3141
02:40:11,840 --> 02:40:13,439
uh seven hundred and fifty thousand

3142
02:40:13,439 --> 02:40:17,600
dollars to ywca for harbor house

3143
02:40:17,600 --> 02:40:22,080
um 76 000

3144
02:40:22,080 --> 02:40:25,120
kiwanis uh 10 000.

3145
02:40:25,120 --> 02:40:28,080
uh stockade association for

3146
02:40:28,080 --> 02:40:31,040
the pump station 750 000

3147
02:40:31,040 --> 02:40:35,200
habitat for humanity 500 000. scap

3148
02:40:35,200 --> 02:40:37,040
100 thousand dollars

3149
02:40:37,040 --> 02:40:38,640
that's the question i have for scap i

3150
02:40:38,640 --> 02:40:40,640
know they had more than one project in

3151
02:40:40,640 --> 02:40:43,600
here uh which project would that be

3152
02:40:43,600 --> 02:40:45,680
what's that for scap they have two

3153
02:40:45,680 --> 02:40:47,840
applications one is for the cove the

3154
02:40:47,840 --> 02:40:49,600
homeless club in 19 support the other

3155
02:40:49,600 --> 02:40:51,439
one was for their campus project no the

3156
02:40:51,439 --> 02:40:52,319
homeless

3157
02:40:52,319 --> 02:40:55,279
okay for the homeless covent okay

3158
02:40:55,279 --> 02:40:57,120
thank you

3159
02:40:57,120 --> 02:40:59,279
uh bethesda house uh two hundred

3160
02:40:59,279 --> 02:41:02,080
thousand dollars for cara house

3161
02:41:02,080 --> 02:41:03,439
so that is

3162
02:41:03,439 --> 02:41:07,920
all the appropriations for the contracts

3163
02:41:07,920 --> 02:41:08,880
it will be

3164
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:11,200
a contract with

3165
02:41:11,200 --> 02:41:12,720
bcni

3166
02:41:12,720 --> 02:41:14,640
or three separate contracts depending on

3167
02:41:14,640 --> 02:41:16,399
how it will be done

3168
02:41:16,399 --> 02:41:18,160
out of the particular department the

3169
02:41:18,160 --> 02:41:20,640
question i have for that 1.75 million

3170
02:41:20,640 --> 02:41:23,279
dollars uh are there any contingencies

3171
02:41:23,279 --> 02:41:25,920
associated with those three projects

3172
02:41:25,920 --> 02:41:27,200
yes

3173
02:41:27,200 --> 02:41:30,479
the 500 000 there's a contingency miss

3174
02:41:30,479 --> 02:41:33,359
porterfield the intel projectile project

3175
02:41:33,359 --> 02:41:35,200
you're calling for a community benefits

3176
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:36,880
agreement yes

3177
02:41:36,880 --> 02:41:38,880
can you please elaborate

3178
02:41:38,880 --> 02:41:40,240
for actually

3179
02:41:40,240 --> 02:41:41,120
for

3180
02:41:41,120 --> 02:41:43,279
any work that they're going to be doing

3181
02:41:43,279 --> 02:41:45,600
and using um

3182
02:41:45,600 --> 02:41:47,840
you know people to do the rehab so my

3183
02:41:47,840 --> 02:41:50,720
ask is for their film to work with ron

3184
02:41:50,720 --> 02:41:52,080
to come up with a community benefits

3185
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:54,240
agreement to make sure that people from

3186
02:41:54,240 --> 02:41:56,399
the city um and from his program

3187
02:41:56,399 --> 02:42:00,080
specifically as well are um

3188
02:42:00,080 --> 02:42:01,680
people that work on that project are

3189
02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:05,030
able to work

3190
02:42:05,040 --> 02:42:06,640
is there any funding

3191
02:42:06,640 --> 02:42:09,040
contingency associated with that

3192
02:42:09,040 --> 02:42:10,240
so um

3193
02:42:10,240 --> 02:42:11,600
actually i'm glad you brought this up

3194
02:42:11,600 --> 02:42:13,520
because this is this money is actually

3195
02:42:13,520 --> 02:42:14,880
money that they would be using to

3196
02:42:14,880 --> 02:42:16,000
leverage

3197
02:42:16,000 --> 02:42:18,640
and so um us doing this would leverage

3198
02:42:18,640 --> 02:42:20,319
money from the state so this is one

3199
02:42:20,319 --> 02:42:22,319
group that is doing lots of leverage

3200
02:42:22,319 --> 02:42:24,840
with the money that they're getting so

3201
02:42:24,840 --> 02:42:26,640
um

3202
02:42:26,640 --> 02:42:28,080
we could put it in there i don't

3203
02:42:28,080 --> 02:42:29,200
anticipate they're going to have a

3204
02:42:29,200 --> 02:42:31,359
problem with that but it's up to if

3205
02:42:31,359 --> 02:42:33,120
everyone thinks that we need that but i

3206
02:42:33,120 --> 02:42:35,680
don't anticipate that um being an issue

3207
02:42:35,680 --> 02:42:37,279
because again this is really to leverage

3208
02:42:37,279 --> 02:42:38,399
other money

3209
02:42:38,399 --> 02:42:40,560
um for the state

3210
02:42:40,560 --> 02:42:42,479
the contract obviously can speak to that

3211
02:42:42,479 --> 02:42:44,479
right that we're going to give them 500

3212
02:42:44,479 --> 02:42:45,279
000

3213
02:42:45,279 --> 02:42:46,800
but they're going to have to you know we

3214
02:42:46,800 --> 02:42:48,240
have a contract with them we're not

3215
02:42:48,240 --> 02:42:49,680
going to get the money like that right

3216
02:42:49,680 --> 02:42:51,520
they have to have the other funds in

3217
02:42:51,520 --> 02:42:55,269
place right

3218
02:42:55,279 --> 02:42:58,080
okay um

3219
02:42:58,080 --> 02:43:01,200
so that was bcni the three projects

3220
02:43:01,200 --> 02:43:03,600
um electric city co-op was a million

3221
02:43:03,600 --> 02:43:05,359
dollars um

3222
02:43:05,359 --> 02:43:07,120
are there any contingencies associated

3223
02:43:07,120 --> 02:43:09,120
with that

3224
02:43:09,120 --> 02:43:10,960
i mean i think i think they are also

3225
02:43:10,960 --> 02:43:12,960
seeking additional funding so i think we

3226
02:43:12,960 --> 02:43:16,399
should attach a contingency that um

3227
02:43:16,399 --> 02:43:19,990
similar to the one that we use

3228
02:43:20,000 --> 02:43:21,439
that cycle

3229
02:43:21,439 --> 02:43:23,279
okay and

3230
02:43:23,279 --> 02:43:24,960
is there a dollar amount contingency do

3231
02:43:24,960 --> 02:43:26,960
they have to raise i mean this is

3232
02:43:26,960 --> 02:43:28,640
a question unless you just want to

3233
02:43:28,640 --> 02:43:30,000
authorize the contract and let the

3234
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:31,920
departments handle it

3235
02:43:31,920 --> 02:43:33,359
i don't know what funding they're trying

3236
02:43:33,359 --> 02:43:35,920
to raise and i just want to speak to it

3237
02:43:35,920 --> 02:43:37,439
if the council wants me to speak to it

3238
02:43:37,439 --> 02:43:39,600
when i draft a resolution right i think

3239
02:43:39,600 --> 02:43:41,760
that we we have to speak in terms of the

3240
02:43:41,760 --> 02:43:44,550
project value

3241
02:43:44,560 --> 02:43:46,560
okay that does it for the total project

3242
02:43:46,560 --> 02:43:48,319
value that they're asking they're asking

3243
02:43:48,319 --> 02:43:55,670
what they state

3244
02:43:55,680 --> 02:43:58,479
okay thank you um

3245
02:43:58,479 --> 02:44:00,640
hamilton hill art center was 1.2 million

3246
02:44:00,640 --> 02:44:02,720
dollars any contingencies associated

3247
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:05,359
with that project

3248
02:44:05,359 --> 02:44:07,040
was that their toll uh was that for the

3249
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:09,760
total project was that well what i have

3250
02:44:09,760 --> 02:44:12,080
here is different than i think what they

3251
02:44:12,080 --> 02:44:14,479
may have provided in a revised

3252
02:44:14,479 --> 02:44:17,439
so i think they asked for 1.7 on here

3253
02:44:17,439 --> 02:44:19,120
yes but we've always proposed we didn't

3254
02:44:19,120 --> 02:44:21,040
get cut okay if we're funding them in

3255
02:44:21,040 --> 02:44:22,160
full then

3256
02:44:22,160 --> 02:44:23,439
there's no i don't know if there's

3257
02:44:23,439 --> 02:44:24,960
additional funding for the project i

3258
02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:27,439
can't speak to that i see that

3259
02:44:27,439 --> 02:44:29,040
um

3260
02:44:29,040 --> 02:44:31,040
we did have the budget and as i recall

3261
02:44:31,040 --> 02:44:33,359
in the budget they had already had um

3262
02:44:33,359 --> 02:44:35,279
other things covered so if we wanted to

3263
02:44:35,279 --> 02:44:37,279
if we put the contingency it can't hurt

3264
02:44:37,279 --> 02:44:39,200
because they already um

3265
02:44:39,200 --> 02:44:40,720
i was going to say that just for clarity

3266
02:44:40,720 --> 02:44:42,080
and just be on the safe side just put

3267
02:44:42,080 --> 02:44:43,680
that in there that uh

3268
02:44:43,680 --> 02:44:59,590
additional funding

3269
02:44:59,600 --> 02:45:03,590
um

3270
02:45:03,600 --> 02:45:04,960
i don't know if there's a contingency

3271
02:45:04,960 --> 02:45:06,640
associated with that um let's look at

3272
02:45:06,640 --> 02:45:09,359
this and see what's the value

3273
02:45:09,359 --> 02:45:10,960
expansion to hamilton hill learning

3274
02:45:10,960 --> 02:45:14,880
center the requested amount was 1.3

3275
02:45:14,880 --> 02:45:17,279
the project cost was 4.1 according to

3276
02:45:17,279 --> 02:45:19,279
your documents i think that we should

3277
02:45:19,279 --> 02:45:22,720
have that also there for this project

3278
02:45:22,720 --> 02:45:25,120
contingency upon showing proof that

3279
02:45:25,120 --> 02:45:28,319
additional funding

3280
02:45:28,319 --> 02:45:30,080
uh boys and girls club i believe that

3281
02:45:30,080 --> 02:45:32,160
was being funded in full yes that's

3282
02:45:32,160 --> 02:45:34,399
correct ywca

3283
02:45:34,399 --> 02:45:35,840
um

3284
02:45:35,840 --> 02:45:37,840
the critical needs i think that was just

3285
02:45:37,840 --> 02:45:40,560
a covers programming for them

3286
02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:42,800
the harbor house was 750 thousand

3287
02:45:42,800 --> 02:45:44,399
dollars i don't know

3288
02:45:44,399 --> 02:45:46,319
we need to attach a contingency on this

3289
02:45:46,319 --> 02:45:47,760
was it that wasn't the full amount how

3290
02:45:47,760 --> 02:45:49,840
much i don't know i don't think so it's

3291
02:45:49,840 --> 02:45:52,640
1.5 1.5 yeah so we need to attach the

3292
02:45:52,640 --> 02:45:54,479
same contingency

3293
02:45:54,479 --> 02:45:58,000
proof of additional funding needed

3294
02:45:58,000 --> 02:46:00,080
proctors was the full amount kiwanis was

3295
02:46:00,080 --> 02:46:02,160
the full amount stockade we already

3296
02:46:02,160 --> 02:46:04,880
discussed which will be covering

3297
02:46:04,880 --> 02:46:08,000
the additional funding habitat was 500

3298
02:46:08,000 --> 02:46:08,880
000

3299
02:46:08,880 --> 02:46:12,479
um i know this for project by project i

3300
02:46:12,479 --> 02:46:14,640
don't know if there's a contingency that

3301
02:46:14,640 --> 02:46:16,560
the council is looking for on that

3302
02:46:16,560 --> 02:46:18,080
i don't think for that one because it is

3303
02:46:18,080 --> 02:46:19,680
project by project

3304
02:46:19,680 --> 02:46:21,840
only asking right no no i understand

3305
02:46:21,840 --> 02:46:24,800
yeah uh scout for the homeless program

3306
02:46:24,800 --> 02:46:26,800
the funding goes directly to the program

3307
02:46:26,800 --> 02:46:28,240
obviously if the council wants

3308
02:46:28,240 --> 02:46:30,160
additional funding for that

3309
02:46:30,160 --> 02:46:31,680
sorry vcna

3310
02:46:31,680 --> 02:46:33,040
we're using the money that we are

3311
02:46:33,040 --> 02:46:35,279
allocating proposal here tonight for the

3312
02:46:35,279 --> 02:46:38,240
leverages towards applying for money to

3313
02:46:38,240 --> 02:46:39,520
the state right

3314
02:46:39,520 --> 02:46:40,720
so

3315
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:42,319
i don't want to say this but if things

3316
02:46:42,319 --> 02:46:43,439
doesn't go

3317
02:46:43,439 --> 02:46:44,720
in the right way

3318
02:46:44,720 --> 02:46:46,399
should we put a contingency in there

3319
02:46:46,399 --> 02:46:48,160
that the allocation will be based upon

3320
02:46:48,160 --> 02:46:55,190
receiving additional making sure

3321
02:46:55,200 --> 02:46:57,760
100 000 for their homeless program

3322
02:46:57,760 --> 02:46:59,840
um i assume that there's no contingency

3323
02:46:59,840 --> 02:47:01,200
on that

3324
02:47:01,200 --> 02:47:03,760
okay that's just for the program right

3325
02:47:03,760 --> 02:47:05,520
and then bethesda house for cara or

3326
02:47:05,520 --> 02:47:08,800
bethesda for cara house with 200 000 um

3327
02:47:08,800 --> 02:47:10,080
i imagine that this goes to the

3328
02:47:10,080 --> 02:47:11,600
programming costs and that's already in

3329
02:47:11,600 --> 02:47:15,279
place so i have is cara house no no cara

3330
02:47:15,279 --> 02:47:18,080
house for supportive housing yeah their

3331
02:47:18,080 --> 02:47:22,479
ask was 8.5 8.5 and million

3332
02:47:22,479 --> 02:47:24,720
i think

3333
02:47:24,720 --> 02:47:27,439
okay i don't have the

3334
02:47:27,439 --> 02:47:30,319
column header here

3335
02:47:30,319 --> 02:47:32,160
yes

3336
02:47:32,160 --> 02:47:35,520
8.5 and the proposal was 400 thousand

3337
02:47:35,520 --> 02:47:39,760
for an application so that's 400 000.

3338
02:47:39,760 --> 02:47:42,240
i think we need to do this also here too

3339
02:47:42,240 --> 02:47:43,840
okay

3340
02:47:43,840 --> 02:47:47,840
kara's house what about cara's house

3341
02:47:47,840 --> 02:47:48,720
okay

3342
02:47:48,720 --> 02:47:51,200
um so i'm left with all the the

3343
02:47:51,200 --> 02:47:52,960
council's authorizing all the contracts

3344
02:47:52,960 --> 02:47:54,880
that i mentioned with contingencies for

3345
02:47:54,880 --> 02:47:57,200
the stockade association contract where

3346
02:47:57,200 --> 02:47:58,800
they have to come up with the additional

3347
02:47:58,800 --> 02:47:59,920
funding

3348
02:47:59,920 --> 02:48:01,920
to match the project cost bcni for the

3349
02:48:01,920 --> 02:48:04,640
infill project

3350
02:48:04,640 --> 02:48:06,319
a cba

3351
02:48:06,319 --> 02:48:07,520
and also

3352
02:48:07,520 --> 02:48:08,960
funding

3353
02:48:08,960 --> 02:48:10,880
contingency

3354
02:48:10,880 --> 02:48:13,120
electric city co-op funding contingency

3355
02:48:13,120 --> 02:48:14,640
hamilton hill arts center funding

3356
02:48:14,640 --> 02:48:16,479
contingency cocoa house

3357
02:48:16,479 --> 02:48:19,120
funding contingency ywca

3358
02:48:19,120 --> 02:48:21,680
for harbor house funding contingency

3359
02:48:21,680 --> 02:48:24,080
bethesda house for care house funding

3360
02:48:24,080 --> 02:48:29,030
contingency that's what i have

3361
02:48:29,040 --> 02:48:30,720
yeah i know we touched on this but i

3362
02:48:30,720 --> 02:48:32,880
just wanted to bring it back on table

3363
02:48:32,880 --> 02:48:34,880
should we put a timeline on this maybe

3364
02:48:34,880 --> 02:48:36,960
like 12 months

3365
02:48:36,960 --> 02:48:38,479
i think we should because we don't want

3366
02:48:38,479 --> 02:48:40,240
to open the end on this i mean we can

3367
02:48:40,240 --> 02:48:41,920
always come back to the table on us to

3368
02:48:41,920 --> 02:48:42,880
review

3369
02:48:42,880 --> 02:48:44,399
and amend the

3370
02:48:44,399 --> 02:48:46,160
resolution to give them additional time

3371
02:48:46,160 --> 02:48:48,160
but at the same time we should

3372
02:48:48,160 --> 02:48:50,640
lock them in to let them go you know

3373
02:48:50,640 --> 02:48:52,720
aggressively towards seeking additional

3374
02:48:52,720 --> 02:48:55,520
funding i say that mystia is gone but mr

3375
02:48:55,520 --> 02:48:57,600
gray is still here so we could ask him

3376
02:48:57,600 --> 02:48:59,200
on that

3377
02:48:59,200 --> 02:49:00,080
about

3378
02:49:00,080 --> 02:49:02,080
uh

3379
02:49:02,080 --> 02:49:07,750
yeah i would say you know i would say

3380
02:49:07,760 --> 02:49:11,349
and we have to let it pass where we

3381
02:49:11,359 --> 02:49:13,439
come before us where we review and we

3382
02:49:13,439 --> 02:49:15,920
extend it for additional time so i think

3383
02:49:15,920 --> 02:49:17,359
we need to do that i will give this

3384
02:49:17,359 --> 02:49:20,000
agency more you know a push to go there

3385
02:49:20,000 --> 02:49:21,200
aggressively

3386
02:49:21,200 --> 02:49:23,279
seek funding seek out organization to

3387
02:49:23,279 --> 02:49:25,600
help them fund these projects that's to

3388
02:49:25,600 --> 02:49:29,040
meet the contingencies

3389
02:49:29,040 --> 02:49:36,070
12 months from the date of execution

3390
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:37,200
so

3391
02:49:37,200 --> 02:49:39,359
just to wrap that up so tonight we are

3392
02:49:39,359 --> 02:49:42,960
getting 11 383 857 and that will take us

3393
02:49:42,960 --> 02:49:44,160
towards

3394
02:49:44,160 --> 02:49:46,870
a total of 42.0805.97

3395
02:49:46,870 --> 02:49:49,990
[Music]

3396
02:49:50,000 --> 02:49:51,200
go ahead so we're talking about

3397
02:49:51,200 --> 02:49:52,800
timelines is there any way to

3398
02:49:52,800 --> 02:49:54,160
incorporate that in the previous

3399
02:49:54,160 --> 02:49:56,399
projects or did we already like i think

3400
02:49:56,399 --> 02:50:00,000
we did that at 12th of december one

3401
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:03,120
agency on december 31st

3402
02:50:03,120 --> 02:50:04,479
and

3403
02:50:04,479 --> 02:50:06,000
there was one contingency that i

3404
02:50:06,000 --> 02:50:08,960
mistaken or two

3405
02:50:08,960 --> 02:50:11,040
yeah there was one for um

3406
02:50:11,040 --> 02:50:12,880
america and craig if you guys can help

3407
02:50:12,880 --> 02:50:14,560
me out today

3408
02:50:14,560 --> 02:50:15,840
give them

3409
02:50:15,840 --> 02:50:17,200
to come

3410
02:50:17,200 --> 02:50:18,399
to seek

3411
02:50:18,399 --> 02:50:21,520
water agency support from other agencies

3412
02:50:21,520 --> 02:50:24,640
yes and the aquatic center

3413
02:50:24,640 --> 02:50:27,120
of course tour diversity somewhere

3414
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:28,640
so we were more aggressive towards the

3415
02:50:28,640 --> 02:50:31,120
aquatic center

3416
02:50:31,120 --> 02:50:32,880
so happily because my i just want to be

3417
02:50:32,880 --> 02:50:34,640
clear that uh

3418
02:50:34,640 --> 02:50:37,520
in that meeting um i was

3419
02:50:37,520 --> 02:50:40,160
against putting any extra contingencies

3420
02:50:40,160 --> 02:50:41,200
upon if we're going to have

3421
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:42,399
contingencies then we need to be

3422
02:50:42,399 --> 02:50:44,080
consistent with our contingencies across

3423
02:50:44,080 --> 02:50:46,720
the board um and we need to recognize

3424
02:50:46,720 --> 02:50:50,560
that um people's capacity to

3425
02:50:50,560 --> 02:50:52,800
complete their projects and so i just

3426
02:50:52,800 --> 02:50:54,240
don't want us to be putting extra

3427
02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:57,279
contingency upon smaller

3428
02:50:57,279 --> 02:50:59,040
grassroots organizations if we don't

3429
02:50:59,040 --> 02:51:00,800
have the same expectation for everyone

3430
02:51:00,800 --> 02:51:01,680
else

3431
02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:03,439
i think that's what we're doing we are

3432
02:51:03,439 --> 02:51:05,520
attaching contingency on any project

3433
02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:08,720
that is seeking additional funding

3434
02:51:08,720 --> 02:51:10,560
so that they will come to us and let us

3435
02:51:10,560 --> 02:51:12,319
know that they are receiving additional

3436
02:51:12,319 --> 02:51:14,640
funding they turn our timeline time out

3437
02:51:14,640 --> 02:51:16,640
yeah so yeah we have been doing that so

3438
02:51:16,640 --> 02:51:18,479
just contingencies around funding and

3439
02:51:18,479 --> 02:51:19,680
then there's contingencies around the

3440
02:51:19,680 --> 02:51:21,439
timeline so i'm saying is that

3441
02:51:21,439 --> 02:51:24,160
projects that we awarded money to um

3442
02:51:24,160 --> 02:51:26,319
already the allocated funding tool um

3443
02:51:26,319 --> 02:51:27,920
that we give them

3444
02:51:27,920 --> 02:51:29,359
the timeline as well so it's just

3445
02:51:29,359 --> 02:51:30,800
something new that we're doing now we're

3446
02:51:30,800 --> 02:51:32,399
gonna try to retrofit into what we've

3447
02:51:32,399 --> 02:51:34,240
done before so

3448
02:51:34,240 --> 02:51:36,720
the last runs any agency that we approve

3449
02:51:36,720 --> 02:51:38,479
funding and if they are seeking

3450
02:51:38,479 --> 02:51:40,399
additional funding or we partially fund

3451
02:51:40,399 --> 02:51:43,439
them we ask them we attach a contingency

3452
02:51:43,439 --> 02:51:44,640
and we attach

3453
02:51:44,640 --> 02:51:47,200
provide us with uh proof that you're

3454
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:48,960
going outside seeking additional funding

3455
02:51:48,960 --> 02:51:50,720
from our agencies

3456
02:51:50,720 --> 02:51:52,800
you know i i i'm familiar we are doing

3457
02:51:52,800 --> 02:51:54,479
the same thing here tonight

3458
02:51:54,479 --> 02:51:56,640
i'm familiar with the addition seeking

3459
02:51:56,640 --> 02:51:57,920
additional funding what i'm saying is

3460
02:51:57,920 --> 02:51:59,439
that we're talking about the timeline i

3461
02:51:59,439 --> 02:52:01,600
just you know we asked a gentleman here

3462
02:52:01,600 --> 02:52:02,880
and he was saying yeah

3463
02:52:02,880 --> 02:52:04,960
12-month timeline did we give everyone a

3464
02:52:04,960 --> 02:52:07,200
12-month timeline that we

3465
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:09,200
um i mean i know you wrote

3466
02:52:09,200 --> 02:52:10,319
probably started right now some of the

3467
02:52:10,319 --> 02:52:12,560
agreements uh misconceived do you do

3468
02:52:12,560 --> 02:52:14,080
have we been consistent with giving

3469
02:52:14,080 --> 02:52:16,640
everyone that gear timeline yeah i don't

3470
02:52:16,640 --> 02:52:18,000
know what contracts have been entered

3471
02:52:18,000 --> 02:52:19,680
into yet i haven't seen any contracts

3472
02:52:19,680 --> 02:52:22,479
that have come across my desk for review

3473
02:52:22,479 --> 02:52:24,080
yet

3474
02:52:24,080 --> 02:52:26,319
but any contingency that the city

3475
02:52:26,319 --> 02:52:28,080
council previously approved would be in

3476
02:52:28,080 --> 02:52:29,840
the contract because

3477
02:52:29,840 --> 02:52:31,920
that's just what has to happen when the

3478
02:52:31,920 --> 02:52:33,439
city council passes something i have to

3479
02:52:33,439 --> 02:52:35,439
reflect the contract has to reflect what

3480
02:52:35,439 --> 02:52:40,070
the city council authorized

3481
02:52:40,080 --> 02:52:42,479
please i'm just a little worried about

3482
02:52:42,479 --> 02:52:44,720
the hamilton hill arts center

3483
02:52:44,720 --> 02:52:47,040
that's where we want ron to

3484
02:52:47,040 --> 02:52:49,040
where so i want to make sure that that

3485
02:52:49,040 --> 02:52:51,520
doesn't get held up because ron might be

3486
02:52:51,520 --> 02:52:52,800
able to not be able to get the funding

3487
02:52:52,800 --> 02:52:55,279
to pay these individuals

3488
02:52:55,279 --> 02:52:57,840
is that what we're

3489
02:52:57,840 --> 02:52:59,040
no no

3490
02:52:59,040 --> 02:53:01,359
okay so for um

3491
02:53:01,359 --> 02:53:02,800
the well hamilton hill arts center was

3492
02:53:02,800 --> 02:53:06,630
just a funding

3493
02:53:06,640 --> 02:53:08,399
that's the one where

3494
02:53:08,399 --> 02:53:09,840
we're looking for community benefit

3495
02:53:09,840 --> 02:53:11,520
agreement from where they would have to

3496
02:53:11,520 --> 02:53:14,319
work with ron but that's a contin

3497
02:53:14,319 --> 02:53:15,359
correct me if i'm wrong that's a

3498
02:53:15,359 --> 02:53:18,960
contingency where they have to agree if you're going to

3499
02:53:18,960 --> 02:53:20,399
get this money from the city you have to

3500
02:53:20,399 --> 02:53:22,160
have this other agreement with the city

3501
02:53:22,160 --> 02:53:23,840
where you're going to use oh they're

3502
02:53:23,840 --> 02:53:25,760
going to and they're going to pay the

3503
02:53:25,760 --> 02:53:27,279
people that ron has put through the

3504
02:53:27,279 --> 02:53:29,840
program okay my misunderstanding i

3505
02:53:29,840 --> 02:53:31,120
thought we would have to have that they

3506
02:53:31,120 --> 02:53:33,760
have a contract with yeah okay bring

3507
02:53:33,760 --> 02:53:35,279
those folks on and this project would

3508
02:53:35,279 --> 02:53:36,880
not happen if they don't receive

3509
02:53:36,880 --> 02:53:41,110
additional

3510
02:53:41,120 --> 02:53:43,040
so so just to be clear they were going

3511
02:53:43,040 --> 02:53:45,040
to have to hire someone anyway right so

3512
02:53:45,040 --> 02:53:46,720
the point of the higher okay i thought

3513
02:53:46,720 --> 02:53:47,840
we would have to come up with the

3514
02:53:47,840 --> 02:53:49,680
funding through right okay i'm going to

3515
02:53:49,680 --> 02:53:52,720
see you guys

3516
02:53:52,720 --> 02:53:56,560
any other discussion before we move this

3517
02:53:56,560 --> 02:53:58,640
so we have a motion to move uh this

3518
02:53:58,640 --> 02:54:03,680
evening 11 million 383 857. so

3519
02:54:03,680 --> 02:54:04,840
have a

3520
02:54:04,840 --> 02:54:06,479
second

3521
02:54:06,479 --> 02:54:09,359
no i'm going to second it all in favor

3522
02:54:09,359 --> 02:54:11,840
aye thank you

3523
02:54:11,840 --> 02:54:12,960
um

3524
02:54:12,960 --> 02:54:14,880
you want you want with also authorizing

3525
02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:17,200
the contract yes contrast with the

3526
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:20,630
containers

3527
02:54:20,640 --> 02:54:22,800
the funding but also authorizing the

3528
02:54:22,800 --> 02:54:24,640
contract and with the contingency as

3529
02:54:24,640 --> 02:54:26,640
outlined

3530
02:54:26,640 --> 02:54:28,960
by mr coleman and myself

3531
02:54:28,960 --> 02:54:30,319
can you do that one more time just make

3532
02:54:30,319 --> 02:54:31,760
the motion to get it out of committee

3533
02:54:31,760 --> 02:54:45,110
this i want to be on this cliff

3534
02:54:45,120 --> 02:55:01,030
any other business

3535
02:55:01,040 --> 02:55:02,970
government operations award we have two

3536
02:55:02,970 --> 02:55:04,080
[Music]

3537
02:55:04,080 --> 02:55:06,880
agenda items um first one is information

3538
02:55:06,880 --> 02:55:09,520
technology systems um

3539
02:55:09,520 --> 02:55:28,710
presented by mr mayor who was

3540
02:55:28,720 --> 02:55:31,040
actually we have like from like 10 12

3541
02:55:31,040 --> 02:55:33,520
years ago one piece documentation and

3542
02:55:33,520 --> 02:55:35,840
nothing in there so we john and i have

3543
02:55:35,840 --> 02:55:38,479
been working on this for almost more

3544
02:55:38,479 --> 02:55:40,560
than a year now

3545
02:55:40,560 --> 02:55:42,000
police department

3546
02:55:42,000 --> 02:55:55,190
corporate

3547
02:55:55,200 --> 02:55:58,240
so this is this policy will be very good

3548
02:55:58,240 --> 02:55:59,840
for us for the

3549
02:55:59,840 --> 02:56:02,880
any compliance we try to match you know

3550
02:56:02,880 --> 02:56:04,800
it asks what do you have policy

3551
02:56:04,800 --> 02:56:07,600
you know any grant verify any you know

3552
02:56:07,600 --> 02:56:10,240
payment card or anything security we do

3553
02:56:10,240 --> 02:56:12,640
uh even cyber security policy this is a

3554
02:56:12,640 --> 02:56:14,479
must you know so that's why we're

3555
02:56:14,479 --> 02:56:17,279
proposing for that in uh uh including

3556
02:56:17,279 --> 02:56:23,830
personal policy uh coming years

3557
02:56:23,840 --> 02:56:26,080
the city deals with delicate information

3558
02:56:26,080 --> 02:56:28,240
day in and day out obviously and we have

3559
02:56:28,240 --> 02:56:31,359
a lot of systems employed whether that's

3560
02:56:31,359 --> 02:56:33,359
out in the field with a code enforcement

3561
02:56:33,359 --> 02:56:35,760
officer with a tablet whether that's

3562
02:56:35,760 --> 02:56:37,520
over at the police department whether

3563
02:56:37,520 --> 02:56:39,600
that's you know somebody accessing city

3564
02:56:39,600 --> 02:56:41,439
hall to go get a birth certificate or

3565
02:56:41,439 --> 02:56:43,520
whatever it is their emails their

3566
02:56:43,520 --> 02:56:45,200
correspondences

3567
02:56:45,200 --> 02:56:46,800
so it's looking to have uniformity

3568
02:56:46,800 --> 02:56:49,439
across the city um when it comes to you

3569
02:56:49,439 --> 02:56:51,760
know electronic communications elect you

3570
02:56:51,760 --> 02:56:53,760
know whether that's as i said emails it

3571
02:56:53,760 --> 02:56:56,000
could just be inter interfacing on the

3572
02:56:56,000 --> 02:56:58,399
internet right using web apps using

3573
02:56:58,399 --> 02:57:00,800
whatever um so it's creating something

3574
02:57:00,800 --> 02:57:03,120
that's standard and um this policy also

3575
02:57:03,120 --> 02:57:04,800
takes into consideration the retention

3576
02:57:04,800 --> 02:57:06,640
policy that the city council has

3577
02:57:06,640 --> 02:57:08,640
previously approved because that's

3578
02:57:08,640 --> 02:57:10,160
obviously very serious and something we

3579
02:57:10,160 --> 02:57:11,760
take seriously in the law department

3580
02:57:11,760 --> 02:57:14,880
obviously because of foil um and i know

3581
02:57:14,880 --> 02:57:16,880
that that's incorporated in here about

3582
02:57:16,880 --> 02:57:18,720
you know we talk about deleting emails

3583
02:57:18,720 --> 02:57:20,160
and you know getting rid of

3584
02:57:20,160 --> 02:57:22,880
correspondences so people don't do that

3585
02:57:22,880 --> 02:57:26,960
right if you're using you know a city um

3586
02:57:26,960 --> 02:57:29,359
a city computer a city you know

3587
02:57:29,359 --> 02:57:30,960
telephone smartphone whatever it is

3588
02:57:30,960 --> 02:57:32,960
you're not deleting communications and

3589
02:57:32,960 --> 02:57:34,479
if you do

3590
02:57:34,479 --> 02:57:36,399
this policy is telling you you can't do

3591
02:57:36,399 --> 02:57:39,120
that you have to follow what the foil

3592
02:57:39,120 --> 02:57:41,680
law says and you can be held responsible

3593
02:57:41,680 --> 02:57:43,600
if you don't right it's about you know

3594
02:57:43,600 --> 02:57:45,760
not giving access to

3595
02:57:45,760 --> 02:57:49,040
um non-employees um you know

3596
02:57:49,040 --> 02:57:50,800
either via you know cell phone or

3597
02:57:50,800 --> 02:57:52,160
computer

3598
02:57:52,160 --> 02:57:54,160
anything in our systems because again

3599
02:57:54,160 --> 02:57:57,439
it's you know it creates a potential for

3600
02:57:57,439 --> 02:57:59,359
you know data to get out somebody to get

3601
02:57:59,359 --> 02:58:02,960
in right viruses etc

3602
02:58:02,960 --> 02:58:06,399
yeah do we have data encryption

3603
02:58:06,399 --> 02:58:08,479
in place here

3604
02:58:08,479 --> 02:58:10,560
yeah i mean we do have the default

3605
02:58:10,560 --> 02:58:13,040
microsoft uh you know

3606
02:58:13,040 --> 02:58:15,520
description higher order stuff yeah so i

3607
02:58:15,520 --> 02:58:16,560
mean

3608
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:18,000
yeah and the secret like you know we

3609
02:58:18,000 --> 02:58:20,399
don't have any classified classified

3610
02:58:20,399 --> 02:58:22,960
messages that's why we well no but i

3611
02:58:22,960 --> 02:58:24,560
mean even at the college we have

3612
02:58:24,560 --> 02:58:26,399
encryption of your data

3613
02:58:26,399 --> 02:58:28,960
and uh it's a higher order than

3614
02:58:28,960 --> 02:58:34,150
microsoft so that's what i was asking

3615
02:58:34,160 --> 02:58:36,000
yeah

3616
02:58:36,000 --> 02:58:37,600
sorry

3617
02:58:37,600 --> 02:58:39,439
i was just asking about confidential

3618
02:58:39,439 --> 02:58:40,960
stuff

3619
02:58:40,960 --> 02:58:42,880
to discuss

3620
02:58:42,880 --> 02:58:44,160
you know confident

3621
02:58:44,160 --> 02:58:46,560
a lot of things can you know i'm sorry

3622
02:58:46,560 --> 02:58:48,240
right you know confidential no nothing

3623
02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:49,920
else you know this is all fine for here

3624
02:58:49,920 --> 02:58:51,600
right but you know there's obviously

3625
02:58:51,600 --> 02:58:53,680
confidential information that gets you

3626
02:58:53,680 --> 02:58:55,680
know sent via email

3627
02:58:55,680 --> 02:58:57,600
yeah we definitely take care of in this

3628
02:58:57,600 --> 02:59:00,319
policy database policy you know like uh

3629
02:59:00,319 --> 02:59:02,640
remote access policy like uh android and

3630
02:59:02,640 --> 02:59:04,160
something there

3631
02:59:04,160 --> 02:59:06,319
so uh we have like uh

3632
02:59:06,319 --> 02:59:07,520
look through each you know even the

3633
02:59:07,520 --> 02:59:09,359
police department some people use this

3634
02:59:09,359 --> 02:59:11,359
personal phone or something department

3635
02:59:11,359 --> 02:59:13,840
based on something so it still does

3636
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:15,920
those phone if something is there that

3637
02:59:15,920 --> 02:59:18,000
is used for business so in case of

3638
02:59:18,000 --> 02:59:20,640
something we can ask for that phone to

3639
02:59:20,640 --> 02:59:28,550
look to it something like that

3640
02:59:28,560 --> 02:59:30,319
so i know um growing up in the military

3641
02:59:30,319 --> 02:59:31,760
there's training for absolutely

3642
02:59:31,760 --> 02:59:33,600
everything and i think when we discuss

3643
02:59:33,600 --> 02:59:35,920
technology i think it's fair to

3644
02:59:35,920 --> 02:59:37,279
understand that people's understanding

3645
02:59:37,279 --> 02:59:38,880
of how to use technology appropriately

3646
02:59:38,880 --> 02:59:41,120
is not the same so is there any way that

3647
02:59:41,120 --> 02:59:43,439
you'd associate maybe like an in-person

3648
02:59:43,439 --> 02:59:46,399
discussion or is the expectation

3649
02:59:46,399 --> 02:59:49,279
and you're communicating

3650
02:59:49,279 --> 02:59:51,920
yeah so i think after this is you know

3651
02:59:51,920 --> 02:59:54,399
my plan is to send it to each employee

3652
02:59:54,399 --> 02:59:56,640
like we do and we know that we should

3653
02:59:56,640 --> 02:59:58,960
play there or not you can put something

3654
02:59:58,960 --> 03:00:00,880
in there check mark to stay you know

3655
03:00:00,880 --> 03:00:08,830
read it or not if it's you

3656
03:00:08,840 --> 03:00:13,359
know and if i may frankly you know

3657
03:00:13,359 --> 03:00:15,040
assuming this passes

3658
03:00:15,040 --> 03:00:16,720
you know this is something that

3659
03:00:16,720 --> 03:00:18,640
talks to my staff about all the time you

3660
03:00:18,640 --> 03:00:20,160
know that's that's natural for us to

3661
03:00:20,160 --> 03:00:21,680
talk about that you know but the

3662
03:00:21,680 --> 03:00:23,680
expectation would be you know department

3663
03:00:23,680 --> 03:00:25,680
heads i think read this information ask

3664
03:00:25,680 --> 03:00:28,720
questions to i.t if there are questions

3665
03:00:28,720 --> 03:00:30,640
talk to the staff

3666
03:00:30,640 --> 03:00:32,479
and see if the staff has questions that

3667
03:00:32,479 --> 03:00:34,560
could be relayed if there are questions

3668
03:00:34,560 --> 03:00:36,000
right

3669
03:00:36,000 --> 03:00:37,200
i think there has to be open lines of

3670
03:00:37,200 --> 03:00:39,120
communication on what to do with this

3671
03:00:39,120 --> 03:00:41,359
information there's so much of it

3672
03:00:41,359 --> 03:00:42,960
right you know whether that's you know

3673
03:00:42,960 --> 03:00:44,720
hopefully you know we're not using our

3674
03:00:44,720 --> 03:00:46,880
personal cell phones all the time to do

3675
03:00:46,880 --> 03:00:49,439
city business right that's obviously

3676
03:00:49,439 --> 03:00:51,439
because honestly when you do it that's

3677
03:00:51,439 --> 03:00:52,640
the communication that you know if

3678
03:00:52,640 --> 03:00:53,840
there's ever

3679
03:00:53,840 --> 03:00:55,840
a lawsuit or something like that it's

3680
03:00:55,840 --> 03:00:57,760
potentially discoverable

3681
03:00:57,760 --> 03:00:59,359
you know which is why i prefer things to

3682
03:00:59,359 --> 03:01:01,600
happen you know if i a phone call is not

3683
03:01:01,600 --> 03:01:03,040
going to show up right if i talk to

3684
03:01:03,040 --> 03:01:04,479
somebody and if somebody wants to send

3685
03:01:04,479 --> 03:01:06,240
me something i tell them to email it to

3686
03:01:06,240 --> 03:01:09,520
my to my work email because now it's

3687
03:01:09,520 --> 03:01:11,439
backed up on the server whereas if it's

3688
03:01:11,439 --> 03:01:12,880
on my cell phone

3689
03:01:12,880 --> 03:01:15,279
um you know nobody guts it right because

3690
03:01:15,279 --> 03:01:16,720
nobody will know what's out there but me

3691
03:01:16,720 --> 03:01:18,800
and then i have to you know be obviously

3692
03:01:18,800 --> 03:01:22,080
honest about it which i would be

3693
03:01:22,080 --> 03:01:24,319
you know i think but i think generally

3694
03:01:24,319 --> 03:01:26,399
the thought process here is let's have

3695
03:01:26,399 --> 03:01:28,000
the policy in place

3696
03:01:28,000 --> 03:01:30,240
um let's you know get it out to the

3697
03:01:30,240 --> 03:01:32,479
staff let them review it let them ask

3698
03:01:32,479 --> 03:01:35,359
questions let department heads you know

3699
03:01:35,359 --> 03:01:37,439
ask questions and you know relay

3700
03:01:37,439 --> 03:01:39,359
information if need be to

3701
03:01:39,359 --> 03:01:42,720
um to id and to belong

3702
03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:44,560
so we're saying let's get the policy out

3703
03:01:44,560 --> 03:01:46,160
there to staff

3704
03:01:46,160 --> 03:01:48,560
um and let them

3705
03:01:48,560 --> 03:01:50,880
um kind of ask questions uh have we got

3706
03:01:50,880 --> 03:01:52,800
any feedback on our policy thus far we

3707
03:01:52,800 --> 03:01:55,120
shared it with anyone yet

3708
03:01:55,120 --> 03:01:56,880
so more than the feedback we're trying

3709
03:01:56,880 --> 03:01:57,520
to

3710
03:01:57,520 --> 03:01:59,760
establish the accessible use policy like

3711
03:01:59,760 --> 03:02:01,359
you know your password how many

3712
03:02:01,359 --> 03:02:02,880
characters you should have the password

3713
03:02:02,880 --> 03:02:04,399
it's like you know what you watch you

3714
03:02:04,399 --> 03:02:06,479
should do you know like like can we say

3715
03:02:06,479 --> 03:02:08,479
that you know you do not do the text

3716
03:02:08,479 --> 03:02:10,399
message but do the email for any

3717
03:02:10,399 --> 03:02:11,840
official business so that you have the

3718
03:02:11,840 --> 03:02:13,200
record of that

3719
03:02:13,200 --> 03:02:16,319
because we followed the new york state

3720
03:02:16,319 --> 03:02:17,520
oil

3721
03:02:17,520 --> 03:02:19,600
policy and you know we had like you know

3722
03:02:19,600 --> 03:02:21,680
we have mentioned like so many things

3723
03:02:21,680 --> 03:02:23,359
you can do cannot do

3724
03:02:23,359 --> 03:02:25,120
all these things we have included we're

3725
03:02:25,120 --> 03:02:26,960
going to summarize it and put that over

3726
03:02:26,960 --> 03:02:32,630
here

3727
03:02:32,640 --> 03:02:34,560
and to be frank like this is a

3728
03:02:34,560 --> 03:02:36,319
i think you know putting this together i

3729
03:02:36,319 --> 03:02:38,800
know gowan worked with um chris marnie

3730
03:02:38,800 --> 03:02:40,800
in my office on putting this together

3731
03:02:40,800 --> 03:02:43,520
and obviously with john coluccio

3732
03:02:43,520 --> 03:02:45,279
this is a relatively a relatively

3733
03:02:45,279 --> 03:02:48,080
objective document

3734
03:02:48,080 --> 03:02:49,840
and it really does safeguard because

3735
03:02:49,840 --> 03:02:51,680
obviously the interest here is on the

3736
03:02:51,680 --> 03:02:53,279
city right we're trying to protect the

3737
03:02:53,279 --> 03:02:55,359
information so it doesn't get out

3738
03:02:55,359 --> 03:02:56,880
inadvertently

3739
03:02:56,880 --> 03:02:59,600
or you know i say inadvertently through

3740
03:02:59,600 --> 03:03:01,279
channels that are not

3741
03:03:01,279 --> 03:03:03,120
the foil system or other ways to get

3742
03:03:03,120 --> 03:03:05,120
information and also

3743
03:03:05,120 --> 03:03:06,800
you know i know the mayor has mentioned

3744
03:03:06,800 --> 03:03:08,800
this many times before we have people

3745
03:03:08,800 --> 03:03:11,439
who try to infiltrate the system and

3746
03:03:11,439 --> 03:03:13,359
it's easier to infiltrate the system if

3747
03:03:13,359 --> 03:03:15,120
people are um

3748
03:03:15,120 --> 03:03:16,560
you know if we don't have a policy in

3749
03:03:16,560 --> 03:03:17,920
place right where we can hold people

3750
03:03:17,920 --> 03:03:19,439
accountable to follow a particular

3751
03:03:19,439 --> 03:03:21,359
policy because then there's you know

3752
03:03:21,359 --> 03:03:23,920
some i don't say subjectivity to it but

3753
03:03:23,920 --> 03:03:26,399
there isn't a standard right by creating

3754
03:03:26,399 --> 03:03:28,160
a standard which is this is what it's

3755
03:03:28,160 --> 03:03:29,439
doing it's creating a baseline to

3756
03:03:29,439 --> 03:03:32,080
protect the city from both people trying

3757
03:03:32,080 --> 03:03:33,840
to get into the system and information

3758
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:35,600
that frankly should not get out of the

3759
03:03:35,600 --> 03:03:38,000
system social security numbers

3760
03:03:38,000 --> 03:03:40,479
personal addresses because sometimes we

3761
03:03:40,479 --> 03:03:43,600
do email um pcs of personnel changes

3762
03:03:43,600 --> 03:03:45,520
right and that would have

3763
03:03:45,520 --> 03:03:47,040
that information in it we want to make

3764
03:03:47,040 --> 03:03:49,120
sure that that somehow does not get out

3765
03:03:49,120 --> 03:03:51,439
in public because i don't want my social

3766
03:03:51,439 --> 03:03:53,120
security number out there right

3767
03:03:53,120 --> 03:03:55,040
you know i don't want you know people

3768
03:03:55,040 --> 03:03:56,720
can find out where i live probably by

3769
03:03:56,720 --> 03:03:58,640
looking in you know the white pages if

3770
03:03:58,640 --> 03:04:00,399
it exists anymore but it shouldn't be

3771
03:04:00,399 --> 03:04:03,840
getting out through a personnel change

3772
03:04:03,840 --> 03:04:06,160
so we're trying to you know i think give

3773
03:04:06,160 --> 03:04:07,920
create a standard for everybody across

3774
03:04:07,920 --> 03:04:09,600
the city in terms of dealing with this

3775
03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:11,359
information

3776
03:04:11,359 --> 03:04:12,240
and

3777
03:04:12,240 --> 03:04:14,080
you know it may be that at some point in

3778
03:04:14,080 --> 03:04:15,920
time this is going to have to be adapted

3779
03:04:15,920 --> 03:04:18,000
as technology changes as our needs

3780
03:04:18,000 --> 03:04:20,720
change as laws change

3781
03:04:20,720 --> 03:04:22,560
but i think as it stands right now this

3782
03:04:22,560 --> 03:04:23,600
is a

3783
03:04:23,600 --> 03:04:25,840
baseline of what the city really needs

3784
03:04:25,840 --> 03:04:27,040
in terms of

3785
03:04:27,040 --> 03:04:30,640
um creating a level of protection for

3786
03:04:30,640 --> 03:04:31,600
um

3787
03:04:31,600 --> 03:04:42,950
for the city and also for the employees

3788
03:04:42,960 --> 03:04:44,399
you may have mentioned it here but i

3789
03:04:44,399 --> 03:04:45,680
just i don't think we have a lot of

3790
03:04:45,680 --> 03:04:48,479
mobile import employees but if we do

3791
03:04:48,479 --> 03:04:50,640
have people who are traveling are they

3792
03:04:50,640 --> 03:04:53,120
restricted and using public wi-fi

3793
03:04:53,120 --> 03:04:55,520
accessing the city

3794
03:04:55,520 --> 03:04:58,319
so if they're uh uh like when somebody's

3795
03:04:58,319 --> 03:05:00,080
traveling outside they can use any

3796
03:05:00,080 --> 03:05:02,080
public wi-fi that's gonna talk about yes

3797
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:03,840
yeah so they can use it but you know if

3798
03:05:03,840 --> 03:05:05,680
they are using vpn

3799
03:05:05,680 --> 03:05:07,760
they will be like protected from that

3800
03:05:07,760 --> 03:05:09,600
one so whatever policy we have in the

3801
03:05:09,600 --> 03:05:11,200
vpn our network

3802
03:05:11,200 --> 03:05:13,439
that will apply to that person so

3803
03:05:13,439 --> 03:05:15,520
you know that will be restricted so they

3804
03:05:15,520 --> 03:05:18,560
won't be able to visit any

3805
03:05:18,560 --> 03:05:20,560
malicious website or something because

3806
03:05:20,560 --> 03:05:22,399
that is from our network

3807
03:05:22,399 --> 03:05:40,150
okay

3808
03:05:40,160 --> 03:05:41,920
so we don't have any policy right now

3809
03:05:41,920 --> 03:05:47,110
around uh

3810
03:05:47,120 --> 03:05:49,600
i mean there is like you know if you see

3811
03:05:49,600 --> 03:05:51,120
like uh

3812
03:05:51,120 --> 03:05:54,000
excuse me 12 10 12 years old policy that

3813
03:05:54,000 --> 03:05:56,240
can be friendly kathy introduce here i

3814
03:05:56,240 --> 03:05:57,600
think she wrote like

3815
03:05:57,600 --> 03:06:00,960
one paragraph for the computer policies

3816
03:06:00,960 --> 03:06:03,439
and it does not have anything in there

3817
03:06:03,439 --> 03:06:06,160
so we really don't have like something

3818
03:06:06,160 --> 03:06:07,840
like this kind of house

3819
03:06:07,840 --> 03:06:09,600
i think it's fair i'm sorry

3820
03:06:09,600 --> 03:06:10,560
i think it's fair to say it was

3821
03:06:10,560 --> 03:06:12,640
piecemealed in a way we had a policy but

3822
03:06:12,640 --> 03:06:14,160
then there were other things that

3823
03:06:14,160 --> 03:06:15,439
related to

3824
03:06:15,439 --> 03:06:16,399
um

3825
03:06:16,399 --> 03:06:18,880
documentation the retention policy for

3826
03:06:18,880 --> 03:06:20,560
example that was something that was

3827
03:06:20,560 --> 03:06:22,240
separate and we've incorporated the

3828
03:06:22,240 --> 03:06:24,479
retention policy into into this for

3829
03:06:24,479 --> 03:06:26,800
example so it was somewhat piecemeal and

3830
03:06:26,800 --> 03:06:29,200
you know probably lacking

3831
03:06:29,200 --> 03:06:30,399
this is obviously much more

3832
03:06:30,399 --> 03:06:40,830
comprehensive than what we've

3833
03:06:40,840 --> 03:06:44,720
had so this is um so if we were to

3834
03:06:44,720 --> 03:06:47,279
this would be looking forward correct

3835
03:06:47,279 --> 03:06:49,120
this is going to be perspective because

3836
03:06:49,120 --> 03:06:50,960
it's not a policy until the city council

3837
03:06:50,960 --> 03:06:54,790
authorizes it as a policy

3838
03:06:54,800 --> 03:06:56,960
so but this would be looking forward

3839
03:06:56,960 --> 03:06:58,720
right yes

3840
03:06:58,720 --> 03:07:03,110
yeah we're looking forward

3841
03:07:03,120 --> 03:07:14,710
okay another discussion

3842
03:07:14,720 --> 03:07:24,070
uh

3843
03:07:24,080 --> 03:07:25,840
next we have discussion around amending

3844
03:07:25,840 --> 03:07:27,760
of city ordinance regarding residency

3845
03:07:27,760 --> 03:07:30,000
requirements president brookfield

3846
03:07:30,000 --> 03:07:31,680
thank you so as you know we had a vote

3847
03:07:31,680 --> 03:07:33,960
at the last council meeting regarding um

3848
03:07:33,960 --> 03:07:35,760
[Music]

3849
03:07:35,760 --> 03:07:38,160
regarding expanding the residency to the

3850
03:07:38,160 --> 03:07:39,359
county

3851
03:07:39,359 --> 03:07:43,200
um the vote the it passed five to two

3852
03:07:43,200 --> 03:07:45,920
uh however the mayor did veto this

3853
03:07:45,920 --> 03:07:47,600
uh he sent a letter which all of you

3854
03:07:47,600 --> 03:07:51,200
received um explaining why he vetoed it

3855
03:07:51,200 --> 03:07:52,800
and i

3856
03:07:52,800 --> 03:07:54,880
also and i responded to his letter

3857
03:07:54,880 --> 03:07:56,640
explaining you know pointing out some

3858
03:07:56,640 --> 03:07:59,200
things as to why we needed to

3859
03:07:59,200 --> 03:08:01,920
have um county residents so at this

3860
03:08:01,920 --> 03:08:04,560
point in time the next step for this is

3861
03:08:04,560 --> 03:08:06,560
for it to be returned back to the

3862
03:08:06,560 --> 03:08:09,200
council again at the upcoming meeting to

3863
03:08:09,200 --> 03:08:11,680
once again come up for a vote in order

3864
03:08:11,680 --> 03:08:13,760
to override that veto

3865
03:08:13,760 --> 03:08:15,439
so i bring it back here for discussion

3866
03:08:15,439 --> 03:08:17,120
and see if anybody has any questions

3867
03:08:17,120 --> 03:08:18,479
regarding either letter that you

3868
03:08:18,479 --> 03:08:19,600
received

3869
03:08:19,600 --> 03:08:29,590
or anything in general

3870
03:08:29,600 --> 03:08:31,439
so i'd say for me personally

3871
03:08:31,439 --> 03:08:33,439
going through my first veto i was

3872
03:08:33,439 --> 03:08:35,279
definitely very disheartened

3873
03:08:35,279 --> 03:08:36,640
i think there was a lot of work that was

3874
03:08:36,640 --> 03:08:38,960
put into getting to this point and i

3875
03:08:38,960 --> 03:08:40,800
know the mayor mentioned having some

3876
03:08:40,800 --> 03:08:43,040
reservations but i feel like this was

3877
03:08:43,040 --> 03:08:45,520
delivered fairly completely where i

3878
03:08:45,520 --> 03:08:46,319
think

3879
03:08:46,319 --> 03:08:48,960
it definitely i believe it doesn't take

3880
03:08:48,960 --> 03:08:50,399
into consideration all the time and

3881
03:08:50,399 --> 03:08:51,680
effort that it was taken to get to this

3882
03:08:51,680 --> 03:08:53,520
point however that is

3883
03:08:53,520 --> 03:08:54,560
um

3884
03:08:54,560 --> 03:08:56,160
neither here or there so looking at how

3885
03:08:56,160 --> 03:08:58,720
we move forward for me personally if the

3886
03:08:58,720 --> 03:09:00,160
mayor is

3887
03:09:00,160 --> 03:09:01,439
um

3888
03:09:01,439 --> 03:09:02,560
really

3889
03:09:02,560 --> 03:09:04,399
strongly positioned on not wanting to

3890
03:09:04,399 --> 03:09:06,560
have considerations for current staff

3891
03:09:06,560 --> 03:09:08,160
whether we discuss it in executive

3892
03:09:08,160 --> 03:09:10,160
session i would like to know what staff

3893
03:09:10,160 --> 03:09:12,399
he has outlined with the understanding

3894
03:09:12,399 --> 03:09:13,920
of does this

3895
03:09:13,920 --> 03:09:15,680
substantiate holding up the entire

3896
03:09:15,680 --> 03:09:16,640
process

3897
03:09:16,640 --> 03:09:18,000
because still

3898
03:09:18,000 --> 03:09:20,080
our city is without and i think if the

3899
03:09:20,080 --> 03:09:22,319
mayor is making that determination and i

3900
03:09:22,319 --> 03:09:24,560
respect his title authority in office i

3901
03:09:24,560 --> 03:09:26,080
would like to have more clarification

3902
03:09:26,080 --> 03:09:28,000
and support that but without having that

3903
03:09:28,000 --> 03:09:29,680
information

3904
03:09:29,680 --> 03:09:31,439
i feel like again we are leaving our

3905
03:09:31,439 --> 03:09:33,840
city employees to hold the bag and they

3906
03:09:33,840 --> 03:09:36,239
have resoundedly mentioned that they

3907
03:09:36,239 --> 03:09:38,880
need help so i think that voices that

3908
03:09:38,880 --> 03:09:41,359
i've heard thus far of asking for help

3909
03:09:41,359 --> 03:09:43,359
far outweigh my

3910
03:09:43,359 --> 03:09:46,080
assumptions of what the mayor is

3911
03:09:46,080 --> 03:09:47,840
operating off of so i would like further

3912
03:09:47,840 --> 03:09:51,110
clarification

3913
03:09:51,120 --> 03:09:55,910
any other comments on that discussion

3914
03:09:55,920 --> 03:09:57,840
i think my letter was pretty clear and

3915
03:09:57,840 --> 03:10:00,399
um you know and i outlined that

3916
03:10:00,399 --> 03:10:02,160
we you know the number of openings that

3917
03:10:02,160 --> 03:10:04,399
we have and some of them are one

3918
03:10:04,399 --> 03:10:06,399
particular department more than others

3919
03:10:06,399 --> 03:10:08,960
so again you know for those of you who

3920
03:10:08,960 --> 03:10:11,760
um who did not vote for the first time

3921
03:10:11,760 --> 03:10:13,200
i'm going to ask you to reconsider

3922
03:10:13,200 --> 03:10:15,760
because this is a

3923
03:10:15,760 --> 03:10:17,680
where we're putting our staff in a

3924
03:10:17,680 --> 03:10:18,960
position where they're

3925
03:10:18,960 --> 03:10:21,680
we we heard it today but mr mr wallin

3926
03:10:21,680 --> 03:10:22,720
like

3927
03:10:22,720 --> 03:10:24,800
there's so many projects that he has to

3928
03:10:24,800 --> 03:10:26,960
oversee and then also our department of

3929
03:10:26,960 --> 03:10:28,800
development where we're allocating this

3930
03:10:28,800 --> 03:10:34,239
money so i think it's worthwhile that we do this and we currently um

3931
03:10:34,239 --> 03:10:36,640
have people that live outside the city

3932
03:10:36,640 --> 03:10:39,279
at this current time already so

3933
03:10:39,279 --> 03:10:41,040
and outside the county for that matter

3934
03:10:41,040 --> 03:10:44,319
so um it's already whether we whether we

3935
03:10:44,319 --> 03:10:46,319
have it officially or not it's already

3936
03:10:46,319 --> 03:10:47,760
happening

3937
03:10:47,760 --> 03:10:49,920
so i really think it's it would it

3938
03:10:49,920 --> 03:10:52,399
clearly it clearly demonstrates that we

3939
03:10:52,399 --> 03:10:54,800
have a need to expand it and this

3940
03:10:54,800 --> 03:10:57,279
doesn't just does not just apply to the

3941
03:10:57,279 --> 03:10:58,800
city of schenectady

3942
03:10:58,800 --> 03:10:59,840
there's an article in the paper

3943
03:10:59,840 --> 03:11:02,880
yesterday about how some um

3944
03:11:02,880 --> 03:11:05,040
employers are actually coming up with

3945
03:11:05,040 --> 03:11:07,040
incentives to get people to work so

3946
03:11:07,040 --> 03:11:09,279
staff shortage it's not just something

3947
03:11:09,279 --> 03:11:10,720
that's happening to us it's happening

3948
03:11:10,720 --> 03:11:12,399
all over and it's really something that

3949
03:11:12,399 --> 03:11:14,560
we need to address if we intend to be

3950
03:11:14,560 --> 03:11:16,560
effective and and make sure that our

3951
03:11:16,560 --> 03:11:18,800
workforce has the support that it needs

3952
03:11:18,800 --> 03:11:20,479
so um

3953
03:11:20,479 --> 03:11:23,120
again we'll come back to the council for

3954
03:11:23,120 --> 03:11:25,200
um to be reintroduced that's what has to

3955
03:11:25,200 --> 03:11:26,880
happen after a veto

3956
03:11:26,880 --> 03:11:28,880
and we'll come back on next week's

3957
03:11:28,880 --> 03:11:30,560
agenda

3958
03:11:30,560 --> 03:11:32,720
well so i would just say that you know

3959
03:11:32,720 --> 03:11:35,600
initially i was i i was against this and

3960
03:11:35,600 --> 03:11:37,920
i was concerned about making sure that

3961
03:11:37,920 --> 03:11:39,600
we're um you know prioritizing the

3962
03:11:39,600 --> 03:11:41,439
people that live in the city the people

3963
03:11:41,439 --> 03:11:43,200
who um you know

3964
03:11:43,200 --> 03:11:44,160
uh

3965
03:11:44,160 --> 03:11:48,000
and supporting our tax base um

3966
03:11:48,000 --> 03:11:50,880
and

3967
03:11:50,880 --> 03:11:52,880
so when we put this forward it was my

3968
03:11:52,880 --> 03:11:54,880
understanding that we did put it forward

3969
03:11:54,880 --> 03:11:58,000
um with the consideration of um

3970
03:11:58,000 --> 03:12:01,229
having uh

3971
03:12:01,239 --> 03:12:02,840
incentivizing

3972
03:12:02,840 --> 03:12:05,359
um you know uh

3973
03:12:05,359 --> 03:12:08,080
people who live in the city like right

3974
03:12:08,080 --> 03:12:09,920
that's how the legislation did the

3975
03:12:09,920 --> 03:12:11,520
discussion is that we would come back to

3976
03:12:11,520 --> 03:12:13,200
that that part and yes because that

3977
03:12:13,200 --> 03:12:15,279
might even include some bargaining units

3978
03:12:15,279 --> 03:12:16,880
right things of that nature

3979
03:12:16,880 --> 03:12:20,319
okay so so so you know again initially i

3980
03:12:20,319 --> 03:12:21,760
was against that but i think that in the

3981
03:12:21,760 --> 03:12:24,160
spirit of what we're trying to do here

3982
03:12:24,160 --> 03:12:27,359
um is in the fact that that um

3983
03:12:27,359 --> 03:12:29,200
we are going to incentivize and

3984
03:12:29,200 --> 03:12:30,479
prioritize

3985
03:12:30,479 --> 03:12:32,720
uh people living in uh living in the

3986
03:12:32,720 --> 03:12:34,880
city i would just welcome any other you

3987
03:12:34,880 --> 03:12:36,479
know kind of comments or discussions as

3988
03:12:36,479 --> 03:12:38,560
to why that might not be something that

3989
03:12:38,560 --> 03:12:45,429
we that we want to do

3990
03:12:45,439 --> 03:12:47,600
okay here we go

3991
03:12:47,600 --> 03:12:49,760
so

3992
03:12:49,760 --> 03:12:52,640
that i'll make a motion to adjourn

3993
03:12:52,640 --> 03:12:53,760
so

3994
03:12:53,760 --> 03:12:54,720
second

3995
03:12:54,720 --> 03:12:56,399
oh so we're gonna i thought that this

3996
03:12:56,399 --> 03:12:57,920
just came back after veto i thought

3997
03:12:57,920 --> 03:13:02,710
that's something

3998
03:13:02,720 --> 03:13:04,560
but i wanted to bring it back just have

3999
03:13:04,560 --> 03:13:05,760
this discussion and let you know it's

4000
03:13:05,760 --> 03:13:07,359
coming back i believe you have to pass

4001
03:13:07,359 --> 03:13:08,640
out a committee

4002
03:13:08,640 --> 03:13:09,760
it's still happening no you don't it

4003
03:13:09,760 --> 03:13:12,080
doesn't have to be under the code if the

4004
03:13:12,080 --> 03:13:14,000
mayor vetoes it gets laid back before

4005
03:13:14,000 --> 03:13:15,760
the council the next council meeting so

4006
03:13:15,760 --> 03:13:17,600
it's very clear that it's not committed

4007
03:13:17,600 --> 03:13:20,000
yet so so i don't right so you know none

4008
03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:21,200
you don't need to intend to take a

4009
03:13:21,200 --> 03:13:23,200
motion yes

4010
03:13:23,200 --> 03:13:25,520
cool for me

4011
03:13:25,520 --> 03:13:26,640
all right so

4012
03:13:26,640 --> 03:13:29,439
with this i like to adjourn uh uh got my

4013
03:13:29,439 --> 03:13:31,359
operations

4014
03:13:31,359 --> 03:13:34,309
you moved it no

4015
03:13:34,319 --> 03:13:36,160
did you move that was motion she wasn't

4016
03:13:36,160 --> 03:13:42,150
making emotion that was just a motion

4017
03:13:42,160 --> 03:13:46,710
[Music]

4018
03:13:46,720 --> 03:13:49,040
we have nine items on the agenda

4019
03:13:49,040 --> 03:13:51,760
uh the first item mr wallam 501 state

4020
03:13:51,760 --> 03:13:55,370
street

4021
03:13:55,380 --> 03:14:00,950
[Music]

4022
03:14:00,960 --> 03:14:03,600
for the next committee meeting so just

4023
03:14:03,600 --> 03:14:17,760
push that off

4024
03:14:17,770 --> 03:14:22,830
[Music]

4025
03:14:22,840 --> 03:14:26,720
218 so as you're aware we are working uh

4026
03:14:26,720 --> 03:14:29,040
as expedited as possible on the central

4027
03:14:29,040 --> 03:14:30,239
park project

4028
03:14:30,239 --> 03:14:32,399
uh for the construction of the pool uh

4029
03:14:32,399 --> 03:14:34,479
the pool will be uh

4030
03:14:34,479 --> 03:14:37,359
seated at the existing world used to be

4031
03:14:37,359 --> 03:14:40,239
the former tennis stadium site

4032
03:14:40,239 --> 03:14:42,479
phase one of the project was we engaged

4033
03:14:42,479 --> 03:14:46,239
with a scrapper essentially to remove

4034
03:14:46,239 --> 03:14:48,080
all the metal and

4035
03:14:48,080 --> 03:14:50,319
valuable items so to speak

4036
03:14:50,319 --> 03:14:52,479
from the site that phase was completed

4037
03:14:52,479 --> 03:14:55,680
uh two weeks ago this next phase was to

4038
03:14:55,680 --> 03:14:56,880
do site

4039
03:14:56,880 --> 03:14:59,760
grading and demolition which is uh we're

4040
03:14:59,760 --> 03:15:02,640
going to be removing uh trees uh in a

4041
03:15:02,640 --> 03:15:05,040
hill that it runs along

4042
03:15:05,040 --> 03:15:07,760
the roadway adjacent to there

4043
03:15:07,760 --> 03:15:10,000
we're going to do this now to make this

4044
03:15:10,000 --> 03:15:11,520
site what's called pad ready for the

4045
03:15:11,520 --> 03:15:14,080
next contractor

4046
03:15:14,080 --> 03:15:16,000
it's just another step in trying to show

4047
03:15:16,000 --> 03:15:17,760
progress and show the community that

4048
03:15:17,760 --> 03:15:20,000
we're really moving forward with this

4049
03:15:20,000 --> 03:15:21,680
next we're going to be going out in the

4050
03:15:21,680 --> 03:15:24,319
near future with the bid of actually the

4051
03:15:24,319 --> 03:15:27,279
pool house proper and everything else

4052
03:15:27,279 --> 03:15:29,279
but we put this out

4053
03:15:29,279 --> 03:15:31,439
our engineer's estimate was between two

4054
03:15:31,439 --> 03:15:33,520
and three hundred thousand dollars

4055
03:15:33,520 --> 03:15:35,760
and the pricing that we got was for the

4056
03:15:35,760 --> 03:15:38,080
most part right in between there

4057
03:15:38,080 --> 03:15:40,560
um kevlar and sons

4058
03:15:40,560 --> 03:15:42,640
is a contractor that we have not worked

4059
03:15:42,640 --> 03:15:44,640
with in recent times i have not really

4060
03:15:44,640 --> 03:15:47,200
worked with that much however i do know

4061
03:15:47,200 --> 03:15:48,800
that they are

4062
03:15:48,800 --> 03:15:52,150
one of the

4063
03:15:52,160 --> 03:15:54,399
go-to contractors for union college they

4064
03:15:54,399 --> 03:15:56,000
do a lot of work with union college i

4065
03:15:56,000 --> 03:15:57,200
have a lot of colleagues at union

4066
03:15:57,200 --> 03:16:00,640
college and uh you know they actually

4067
03:16:00,640 --> 03:16:02,479
they don't have to bid they're private

4068
03:16:02,479 --> 03:16:03,920
they select who they believe does the

4069
03:16:03,920 --> 03:16:06,319
best work and they continually work with

4070
03:16:06,319 --> 03:16:09,120
keller so to me that speaks uh

4071
03:16:09,120 --> 03:16:11,120
well for them and the quality of their

4072
03:16:11,120 --> 03:16:14,479
work this project also is pretty simple

4073
03:16:14,479 --> 03:16:17,439
in the fact that it is tree dirt removal

4074
03:16:17,439 --> 03:16:18,720
we're going to bring some of the dirt

4075
03:16:18,720 --> 03:16:20,800
down to foster avenue use it as a cap on

4076
03:16:20,800 --> 03:16:23,520
some of that so i'll be able to relocate

4077
03:16:23,520 --> 03:16:26,720
some of it so i have no reservations

4078
03:16:26,720 --> 03:16:27,600
with this

4079
03:16:27,600 --> 03:16:29,760
price or

4080
03:16:29,760 --> 03:16:32,239
are there any questions

4081
03:16:32,239 --> 03:16:35,040
mr williams oh sorry a weird question

4082
03:16:35,040 --> 03:16:36,800
i'll be remiss then you pay for it

4083
03:16:36,800 --> 03:16:38,319
during the next family meeting my

4084
03:16:38,319 --> 03:16:40,319
brother-in-law is an avid disc offer and

4085
03:16:40,319 --> 03:16:42,479
we do have a large community that takes

4086
03:16:42,479 --> 03:16:44,399
part in that do you anticipate and then

4087
03:16:44,399 --> 03:16:45,760
you can let me know if this hasn't even

4088
03:16:45,760 --> 03:16:47,279
been a consideration do you anticipate

4089
03:16:47,279 --> 03:16:49,680
any like long or short term disruptions

4090
03:16:49,680 --> 03:16:52,399
to the central park disc golfing flow uh

4091
03:16:52,399 --> 03:16:54,720
permanent destruction but that is what

4092
03:16:54,720 --> 03:16:57,120
we're doing with kenji we've already

4093
03:16:57,120 --> 03:16:58,399
reached out to him

4094
03:16:58,399 --> 03:17:01,359
and uh our ogs department along with

4095
03:17:01,359 --> 03:17:03,200
kennedy we're going to be permanently

4096
03:17:03,200 --> 03:17:06,720
relocating these holes to other areas

4097
03:17:06,720 --> 03:17:09,920
and kind of reconfiguring it because

4098
03:17:09,920 --> 03:17:12,080
with the tennis stadium being abandoned

4099
03:17:12,080 --> 03:17:14,000
and not a lot of traffic worked well for

4100
03:17:14,000 --> 03:17:16,000
their flow but now when we're talking

4101
03:17:16,000 --> 03:17:16,720
about

4102
03:17:16,720 --> 03:17:18,960
a new parking lot a pool all these

4103
03:17:18,960 --> 03:17:21,120
things he you know in our meetings he

4104
03:17:21,120 --> 03:17:23,120
was on our pool advisory committee he

4105
03:17:23,120 --> 03:17:25,120
said you know what we walked it and we

4106
03:17:25,120 --> 03:17:26,640
have some other areas that we'd like to

4107
03:17:26,640 --> 03:17:28,080
disperse so they're going to be

4108
03:17:28,080 --> 03:17:29,680
renumbering the holes and creating a

4109
03:17:29,680 --> 03:17:31,680
couple of new areas so that they're just

4110
03:17:31,680 --> 03:17:33,279
out of this area because it feels like

4111
03:17:33,279 --> 03:17:34,960
it's going to be too many conflicts as

4112
03:17:34,960 --> 03:17:38,630
we go forward

4113
03:17:38,640 --> 03:17:41,840
any other questions i'll move this

4114
03:17:41,840 --> 03:17:43,359
second

4115
03:17:43,359 --> 03:17:45,760
oh i'll second all those in favor all

4116
03:17:45,760 --> 03:17:46,880
right

4117
03:17:46,880 --> 03:17:48,720
okay the next item is approval of change

4118
03:17:48,720 --> 03:17:50,640
order to seal quote usa inc for the

4119
03:17:50,640 --> 03:17:52,000
track field

4120
03:17:52,000 --> 03:17:54,000
track ceiling of city streets yeah this

4121
03:17:54,000 --> 03:17:55,040
is

4122
03:17:55,040 --> 03:17:58,399
um completely at your discretion we are

4123
03:17:58,399 --> 03:18:01,680
awarded a sealcoat contract in april

4124
03:18:01,680 --> 03:18:03,760
crack ceiling contract i'm sorry the

4125
03:18:03,760 --> 03:18:06,880
winning bid was seal code usa

4126
03:18:06,880 --> 03:18:09,279
they came in they did a great job

4127
03:18:09,279 --> 03:18:11,680
expediting two weeks they went through

4128
03:18:11,680 --> 03:18:14,640
all of our budget so to speak but we did

4129
03:18:14,640 --> 03:18:17,760
not do a crack ceiling good year prior

4130
03:18:17,760 --> 03:18:19,680
um just because of our workload and

4131
03:18:19,680 --> 03:18:22,239
coven we didn't do one so we were behind

4132
03:18:22,239 --> 03:18:24,399
we did a small change order to finish up

4133
03:18:24,399 --> 03:18:26,160
some of the remaining street because it

4134
03:18:26,160 --> 03:18:28,239
goes by a quantity basis

4135
03:18:28,239 --> 03:18:29,040
but

4136
03:18:29,040 --> 03:18:30,800
there's still a lot of need out there

4137
03:18:30,800 --> 03:18:33,680
for the city so we kind of came up with

4138
03:18:33,680 --> 03:18:35,600
you know we don't want to

4139
03:18:35,600 --> 03:18:37,760
you know really uh

4140
03:18:37,760 --> 03:18:39,359
take advantage of

4141
03:18:39,359 --> 03:18:40,160
you know

4142
03:18:40,160 --> 03:18:42,479
doubling the contract so to speak but we

4143
03:18:42,479 --> 03:18:43,760
did thought it would be in the best

4144
03:18:43,760 --> 03:18:46,640
interest of the city if we you know gave

4145
03:18:46,640 --> 03:18:47,920
them a little bit more authorize a

4146
03:18:47,920 --> 03:18:49,120
little bit more money to steal coat a

4147
03:18:49,120 --> 03:18:51,439
little bit more streets prior to winter

4148
03:18:51,439 --> 03:18:53,040
and then we'll put out a new contract

4149
03:18:53,040 --> 03:18:54,960
next year um due to our purchasing

4150
03:18:54,960 --> 03:18:57,200
regulations though anytime change order

4151
03:18:57,200 --> 03:18:58,720
over 20

4152
03:18:58,720 --> 03:19:01,040
is at the council's discretion

4153
03:19:01,040 --> 03:19:03,120
i don't think it's a bad investment seal

4154
03:19:03,120 --> 03:19:04,720
coating is always the number one

4155
03:19:04,720 --> 03:19:06,560
preventative maintenance technique that

4156
03:19:06,560 --> 03:19:08,640
you can do and we're really trying to

4157
03:19:08,640 --> 03:19:11,359
make a case to do with more and more

4158
03:19:11,359 --> 03:19:13,040
seal coating every year i think it

4159
03:19:13,040 --> 03:19:14,880
actually has really helped some of our

4160
03:19:14,880 --> 03:19:16,800
roadways here at boulevard and i'm going

4161
03:19:16,800 --> 03:19:18,960
to see that the water is not getting

4162
03:19:18,960 --> 03:19:20,720
into the pavement the pavement without

4163
03:19:20,720 --> 03:19:23,439
the water isn't cracking apart um the

4164
03:19:23,439 --> 03:19:24,960
big goal that we're trying to do is put

4165
03:19:24,960 --> 03:19:26,399
together our program so that we're

4166
03:19:26,399 --> 03:19:27,920
sealed coating roads

4167
03:19:27,920 --> 03:19:30,800
in the three to four age bracket so we

4168
03:19:30,800 --> 03:19:32,960
pave it and then three to four years we

4169
03:19:32,960 --> 03:19:34,960
come back we evaluate that's usually

4170
03:19:34,960 --> 03:19:37,120
when you get the most

4171
03:19:37,120 --> 03:19:39,600
smallest most linear cracks propagating

4172
03:19:39,600 --> 03:19:40,880
up so

4173
03:19:40,880 --> 03:19:42,479
this right now is a little bit more of a

4174
03:19:42,479 --> 03:19:44,840
scatter shot we're doing a lot of areas

4175
03:19:44,840 --> 03:19:48,560
but still it's our second big contract

4176
03:19:48,560 --> 03:19:49,920
this is going to be an annual thing that

4177
03:19:49,920 --> 03:19:51,200
we do

4178
03:19:51,200 --> 03:19:52,800
are there any questions yeah i have a

4179
03:19:52,800 --> 03:19:54,880
question so i remember

4180
03:19:54,880 --> 03:19:56,960
some time ago but the mayor was talking

4181
03:19:56,960 --> 03:19:58,560
about the smart city initiative and how

4182
03:19:58,560 --> 03:19:59,600
that

4183
03:19:59,600 --> 03:20:01,520
you know a component of that would be

4184
03:20:01,520 --> 03:20:03,680
for us to better uh kind of gain twin

4185
03:20:03,680 --> 03:20:05,520
roads and kind of be able to judge the

4186
03:20:05,520 --> 03:20:07,120
wear and tear and the roads that we're

4187
03:20:07,120 --> 03:20:08,880
using that information that we're

4188
03:20:08,880 --> 03:20:13,680
gathering not right now no that is so

4189
03:20:13,680 --> 03:20:16,239
no right now what that is relying on is

4190
03:20:16,239 --> 03:20:19,120
the mayor is installing optical sensors

4191
03:20:19,120 --> 03:20:21,040
we call them cameras but

4192
03:20:21,040 --> 03:20:23,120
the technical term is optical sensors

4193
03:20:23,120 --> 03:20:25,200
and the optical sensors are going to

4194
03:20:25,200 --> 03:20:27,840
monitor a litany of things once they're

4195
03:20:27,840 --> 03:20:30,000
all in place and one of them he's hoping

4196
03:20:30,000 --> 03:20:31,439
is that essentially they're going to

4197
03:20:31,439 --> 03:20:33,680
take a picture of the roadway

4198
03:20:33,680 --> 03:20:35,359
even if it's every week really matter

4199
03:20:35,359 --> 03:20:36,800
cracks don't happen overnight doing

4200
03:20:36,800 --> 03:20:38,880
watching grass grow but they could take

4201
03:20:38,880 --> 03:20:40,720
the picture and then eventually you

4202
03:20:40,720 --> 03:20:42,160
would notice the deterioration of the

4203
03:20:42,160 --> 03:20:43,600
roadway

4204
03:20:43,600 --> 03:20:45,600
i don't know i mean i don't even know if

4205
03:20:45,600 --> 03:20:48,000
bowen would know if that technology is

4206
03:20:48,000 --> 03:20:49,920
there quite yet

4207
03:20:49,920 --> 03:20:51,840
but i do know that we're already using

4208
03:20:51,840 --> 03:20:53,600
them for traffic

4209
03:20:53,600 --> 03:20:56,160
and things like that so the technology

4210
03:20:56,160 --> 03:20:59,200
is going to be there we just

4211
03:20:59,200 --> 03:21:02,000
i don't think we have enough uh

4212
03:21:02,000 --> 03:21:03,760
i i just don't think this area for that

4213
03:21:03,760 --> 03:21:05,200
sensor to actually be able to pick up a

4214
03:21:05,200 --> 03:21:07,040
crack in the roadway you know so right

4215
03:21:07,040 --> 03:21:09,840
now we're doing the what we do right now

4216
03:21:09,840 --> 03:21:11,200
is

4217
03:21:11,200 --> 03:21:13,920
when we pave a road for the season

4218
03:21:13,920 --> 03:21:16,720
uh we put it in the gis as a layer we

4219
03:21:16,720 --> 03:21:19,520
upload it into a public portal that's on

4220
03:21:19,520 --> 03:21:21,600
the city engineering website and so then

4221
03:21:21,600 --> 03:21:23,840
what we do is when going to come here so

4222
03:21:23,840 --> 03:21:26,000
next year is 2023 and we're going to

4223
03:21:26,000 --> 03:21:27,200
look and we're going to say okay what

4224
03:21:27,200 --> 03:21:30,560
roles did we take in 2019 and 2018 and

4225
03:21:30,560 --> 03:21:32,000
we're going to go drive those roads

4226
03:21:32,000 --> 03:21:33,920
first as a manual component we're going

4227
03:21:33,920 --> 03:21:35,680
to drive them we're going to say okay

4228
03:21:35,680 --> 03:21:37,600
these roads are candidates the one thing

4229
03:21:37,600 --> 03:21:39,279
you don't want is a road with too many

4230
03:21:39,279 --> 03:21:41,760
cracks because you pay for this by the

4231
03:21:41,760 --> 03:21:42,880
gallon

4232
03:21:42,880 --> 03:21:45,040
so it's not costing private to go out

4233
03:21:45,040 --> 03:21:47,200
there and just you know go nuts with it

4234
03:21:47,200 --> 03:21:49,520
you really want to have center line

4235
03:21:49,520 --> 03:21:51,760
seams some cracking if you get it's

4236
03:21:51,760 --> 03:21:54,000
called alligator cracking or swallowing

4237
03:21:54,000 --> 03:21:56,080
that's a whole other technique so we're

4238
03:21:56,080 --> 03:21:58,479
trying to try to skip that but

4239
03:21:58,479 --> 03:22:00,160
yeah hopefully in the future we can do

4240
03:22:00,160 --> 03:22:02,000
that there's also talk about mounting

4241
03:22:02,000 --> 03:22:04,399
things to vehicles you know so that the

4242
03:22:04,399 --> 03:22:05,840
vehicles drive the road and they'll be

4243
03:22:05,840 --> 03:22:07,760
able to do that so lots of things are

4244
03:22:07,760 --> 03:22:09,760
possible in the future

4245
03:22:09,760 --> 03:22:11,120
any other questions

4246
03:22:11,120 --> 03:22:13,680
obtain the motion so

4247
03:22:13,680 --> 03:22:16,160
second all those in favor

4248
03:22:16,160 --> 03:22:17,760
thank you thank you very much mr

4249
03:22:17,760 --> 03:22:19,359
williams

4250
03:22:19,359 --> 03:22:21,520
next item on the agenda agenda is a

4251
03:22:21,520 --> 03:22:23,840
ceremonial resolution for national drive

4252
03:22:23,840 --> 03:22:25,520
electric week

4253
03:22:25,520 --> 03:22:27,520
sweden

4254
03:22:27,520 --> 03:22:29,040
thank you so i know that there is going

4255
03:22:29,040 --> 03:22:31,920
to be a national our new state capitol

4256
03:22:31,920 --> 03:22:35,359
district drive electric week coming up

4257
03:22:35,359 --> 03:22:36,960
september 25th it's about putting

4258
03:22:36,960 --> 03:22:39,359
together a resolution supporting

4259
03:22:39,359 --> 03:22:42,000
that ambition of prioritizing driving

4260
03:22:42,000 --> 03:22:44,239
electric vehicles i know the city has

4261
03:22:44,239 --> 03:22:45,920
worked

4262
03:22:45,920 --> 03:22:47,840
exclusively with making sure that their

4263
03:22:47,840 --> 03:22:49,760
vehicles that they're in incorporating

4264
03:22:49,760 --> 03:22:51,680
to our fleets are more

4265
03:22:51,680 --> 03:22:53,680
electrical and it's also a narrative

4266
03:22:53,680 --> 03:22:54,960
that's coming down from the federal

4267
03:22:54,960 --> 03:22:57,120
government of how do we reduce gas

4268
03:22:57,120 --> 03:22:58,880
emissions so i think it's imperative of

4269
03:22:58,880 --> 03:23:01,200
us to further support

4270
03:23:01,200 --> 03:23:03,680
these efforts

4271
03:23:03,680 --> 03:23:05,279
any questions

4272
03:23:05,279 --> 03:23:06,960
answer emotions

4273
03:23:06,960 --> 03:23:09,120
second all those in favor all right

4274
03:23:09,120 --> 03:23:11,439
the next uh item a ceremony resolution

4275
03:23:11,439 --> 03:23:14,000
for national hispanic heritage month mr

4276
03:23:14,000 --> 03:23:16,880
williams thank you um

4277
03:23:16,880 --> 03:23:19,279
for similar different reasons we have a

4278
03:23:19,279 --> 03:23:20,720
very

4279
03:23:20,720 --> 03:23:23,040
welcoming and large hispanic community

4280
03:23:23,040 --> 03:23:25,120
within our city and i think it's

4281
03:23:25,120 --> 03:23:26,080
important to make sure that we

4282
03:23:26,080 --> 03:23:29,040
intentionally pause and recognize a lot

4283
03:23:29,040 --> 03:23:32,000
of the uh

4284
03:23:32,000 --> 03:23:33,760
we just pause and appreciate their

4285
03:23:33,760 --> 03:23:36,319
history and the contributions to our

4286
03:23:36,319 --> 03:23:38,000
local area so

4287
03:23:38,000 --> 03:23:39,520
questions

4288
03:23:39,520 --> 03:23:41,600
obtain a motion

4289
03:23:41,600 --> 03:23:44,479
second always in favor

4290
03:23:44,479 --> 03:23:47,439
uh item number six is um

4291
03:23:47,439 --> 03:23:49,520
a reminder that the where there's

4292
03:23:49,520 --> 03:23:51,359
there'll be a public hearing on

4293
03:23:51,359 --> 03:23:54,319
912 to support the metroplex application

4294
03:23:54,319 --> 03:23:57,200
for the restoring new york grant

4295
03:23:57,200 --> 03:23:59,520
and um i'd also like the committee to

4296
03:23:59,520 --> 03:24:02,080
entertain um another ceremony resolution

4297
03:24:02,080 --> 03:24:04,800
if you would uh our our lady of mark

4298
03:24:04,800 --> 03:24:07,680
carmel is having their 100th anniversary

4299
03:24:07,680 --> 03:24:09,200
and i'd like to be able to give them a

4300
03:24:09,200 --> 03:24:11,120
ceremony resolution

4301
03:24:11,120 --> 03:24:12,399
um

4302
03:24:12,399 --> 03:24:20,150
to recognize that there's no objection

4303
03:24:20,160 --> 03:24:22,239
second all those in favor all right

4304
03:24:22,239 --> 03:24:23,439
thank you

4305
03:24:23,439 --> 03:24:25,439
the remainder of the items on the agenda

4306
03:24:25,439 --> 03:24:27,520
are for um

4307
03:24:27,520 --> 03:24:29,760
executive session so this time i'll have

4308
03:24:29,760 --> 03:24:31,359
to change emotions in executive sessions

4309
03:24:31,359 --> 03:24:32,239
so

4310
03:24:32,239 --> 03:24:34,000
second all of us in favor

4311
03:24:34,000 --> 03:24:35,840
all right we're in executive session and

4312
03:24:35,840 --> 03:24:38,000
the public will have to leave

4313
03:24:38,000 --> 03:24:41,239
thank you