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[19:36] Council a committee meeting for Monday
[19:39] September 19 2022 the first item on the
[19:43] agenda is a presentation of the 2022
[19:45] Summer Youth Employment Program Mr
[19:47] Farley yeah so I just at this point I
[19:51] want to
[19:53] bring up uh Dr kotto I'm just going to
[19:56] DC the school district as you all know
[19:57] on this program
[20:00] was an extremely meaningful program
[20:02] however
[20:03] um so okay yeah extremely meaningful
[20:05] program and it really required the
[20:08] support of all the council and I was um
[20:10] really pleased that we were able to kind
[20:12] of have our ideas aligned even though
[20:14] there was something
[20:16] questions and I think that it might have
[20:18] not turned out the way we initially
[20:20] attended but our ability to kind of
[20:22] rally around our new really
[20:25] gave us a great opportunity to see what
[20:28] they can do and give them you know make
[20:30] some investment in them so I was just
[20:31] really happy to introduce Dr kotto but
[20:35] before I did that I just wanted to
[20:36] express my
[20:37] gratitude to the council and as well as
[20:40] the mayor for really supporting this and
[20:42] we're actually bringing this forward so
[20:46] thank you and based on what the money is
[20:49] also I want to thank city council
[20:51] and the mayor supporting these efforts
[20:53] as it relates to our you know our youth
[20:56] Here in Schenectady and the
[20:57] opportunities that they have this summer
[20:59] I have provided you know the the packet
[21:02] that you have has the presentation in it
[21:05] but there's also some information on the
[21:06] district and as far as District calendar
[21:08] our Spotlight things that we highlighted
[21:11] for last year and some other you know
[21:13] information as it relates to the
[21:14] district as a whole as I get started I
[21:17] just want to kind of share our strategic
[21:19] plan as a whole this is something that
[21:21] we kind of start most of our
[21:22] presentations with
[21:24] um and I will tell you it completely
[21:25] aligns with this work that we did with
[21:27] our youth this summer because at the end
[21:30] of the day we're trying to grow our own
[21:31] here in this community so as we look at
[21:33] the district as we look at community
[21:34] staff and overall students um as you
[21:37] look at each of those particular
[21:38] strategic areas
[21:40] the youth employment piece definitely
[21:42] provides access in all those areas it
[21:45] relates to the district and a whole
[21:49] again we anchor everything with our
[21:51] vision our tagline and our core values
[21:53] these are you know this also kind of
[21:56] resonated throughout the course of this
[21:57] summer and throughout the course of the
[21:59] school year we're still working on that
[22:01] everyone counts everyone learns I'm
[22:03] still working on the equity the
[22:04] collaboration and the hope is that this
[22:06] is just the start of strengthening those
[22:09] particular pieces as it relates to some
[22:11] of this work
[22:13] and then our four pillars
[22:15] um which anchors all of this work at the
[22:18] end of the day our goal is to graduate
[22:19] our students on time and prepare them
[22:21] for college and career opportunities but
[22:23] also skills trades entrepreneurship
[22:25] Workforce Development really trying to
[22:27] provide Pathways that provide them with
[22:29] those those kind of experiences at an
[22:31] early age so that as they transition
[22:33] into middle and high school they now
[22:35] have more information in which they took
[22:37] the information they need in order to
[22:38] make some sound decisions around their
[22:40] career paths as a whole and again a lot
[22:42] of the experiences that I use kind of
[22:44] experienced over the summer provided
[22:46] some of that kind of pathway in some
[22:48] aspects and in others it was just an
[22:50] experience that helps to transition on
[22:52] those leadership skills that are needed
[22:53] just to be a productive young man or
[22:57] young lady within our community
[22:59] so I jump right into our summer youth
[23:01] program
[23:03] um this summer we had
[23:05] 265 youth that was served this work that
[23:09] was done it was done in partnership with
[23:11] Schenectady connects or some of Youth
[23:13] Employment so working with Jen vargy and
[23:16] kind of facilitating some of this work
[23:18] as a whole they received when we
[23:21] received over 479 applications out of
[23:25] those 479 applications the next slide
[23:27] I'll kind of give a breakdown of where
[23:29] we where we landed as far as providing
[23:31] those students those opportunities
[23:33] but the Partnerships that took place
[23:35] throughout this process
[23:37] um were a combination of not-for-profit
[23:39] government and private sector
[23:41] organizations we had over 72 work sites
[23:43] and we've highlighted a couple of them
[23:45] in this particular slide here with
[23:47] counseling and training Food Services
[23:48] clerical retail Landscaping positions
[23:51] and many others
[23:54] again I can't thank enough city council
[23:57] and the mayor for supporting these
[23:58] efforts the initial goal was to get you
[24:01] know have 75 of our students benefit
[24:03] from this program and we did service 75
[24:06] of our students in the district
[24:08] in doing that the breakdown as it
[24:10] relates to the overall percentage and
[24:13] that that the age range we had those
[24:16] students under the age of 18 about 65
[24:18] percent of our students were under the
[24:20] age of 16 I mean that's 18 and then um
[24:24] the ages of 14 and 15 about 35 percent
[24:28] I'm sorry this broke down a little
[24:29] differently so I'm reading it wrong so
[24:32] let me make sure that
[24:33] break it down as a
[24:36] so all of our students were under the
[24:37] age of 18. and those that were service
[24:40] between the ages of 14 and 15 were about
[24:42] 65 percent of the students and then 35
[24:45] between the ages of 16 and 17.
[24:48] without the support these 75 students
[24:50] wouldn't have this access to these
[24:52] opportunities and they wouldn't build up
[24:54] around those transitional skills that
[24:57] have required regardless of the the kind
[24:59] of job that you have you learn a lot in
[25:01] every job that you kind of navigate and
[25:03] all those things help strengthen you as
[25:05] a leader so there's never the wrong job
[25:07] it's just how do you process I would
[25:10] share one of my first jobs with KFC and
[25:12] I only lasted two weeks but I but I
[25:14] learned a lot from that experience as a
[25:16] whole and I think our students whether
[25:18] it's uh you know whether that transition
[25:19] is the right one or the experience is
[25:21] the right one at the end of the day you
[25:23] gain whether positive or negative you
[25:25] gain things out of the strengthen you as
[25:26] a leader
[25:29] so the program itself you know 20
[25:33] obtained employment from within that 75
[25:36] students and they're they have standing
[25:39] offers within that overall employment
[25:41] opportunity or a higher you know
[25:45] within that process their favorable
[25:47] recommendations from that worksite to
[25:49] continue within that work so they have
[25:51] the opportunity to continue within those
[25:53] particular areas all of our youth were
[25:55] under the age of 18 and the older
[25:57] programs that have been working closely
[25:58] you know for those older ones they're
[26:00] working closely to kind of support them
[26:01] as they now transition into the real
[26:03] world so those experiences also LED them
[26:06] to that kind of opportunity
[26:09] from the video and I think I skipped the
[26:11] video Let's see if I can go back here
[26:13] just to kind of highlight I'm not sure
[26:16] how to do it from here let me just go
[26:17] this way the video that took place over
[26:20] at the high school that kind of
[26:22] got some info from our students
[26:46] yes
[27:25] she can't even read lips because they're
[27:26] nice here we go
[27:36] um another idea I had was like a video
[27:39] like a student a video company kind of a
[27:43] way for like students to release TSA and
[27:46] what are you what we're looking for is
[27:49] what are your ideas what are your
[27:52] thoughts when when you first heard the
[27:55] opportunity hey the city has job
[27:58] opportunities this summer and it's all
[28:00] about making Schenectady a more
[28:03] beautiful all better place not just the
[28:06] city but also the schools
[28:14] some of my ideas is for for one I'm a
[28:18] musical person so one idea to have is a
[28:21] studio so that kids can express
[28:23] themselves through music
[28:25] Ally proponent they feel
[28:27] um another idea it had was like a video
[28:31] like a student and a video company kind
[28:34] of a way for like students to release
[28:37] PSAs art videos messages to kids the
[28:40] stuff not to do and stuff to do about
[28:42] the way to help out hello my name is
[28:44] Andy Reynold I'm a junior at Skyview
[28:46] High School and one of my ideas for the
[28:48] summer deployment opportunity for
[28:50] students is to initiate a trash can
[28:53] installation program company
[28:54] entrance or corners of um relative
[28:57] Schenectady because of the a video she's
[29:00] connected houses need any more Synology
[29:04] and this would help in the long term
[29:06] because people would actually be able to
[29:08] use these special ends on for longer
[29:10] than they would actually be something
[29:11] just
[29:14] hi my name is Katie Lee Evans I'm a
[29:16] software Symphony high school and I have
[29:18] some ideas for the summer Employment
[29:21] Program I was thinking that we could do
[29:24] clothing and do the drives along with
[29:27] looking for opportunities for younger
[29:30] children at parks so it's more
[29:31] accessible and there's more activities
[29:33] for them there as well if you're a
[29:34] tutoring right um
[29:38] painting not just Guru but but painting
[29:41] trying to talk about first go to bank
[29:43] always looks good we talked about fixing
[29:48] up some some more booths and basketball
[29:51] places in the city yeah
[29:52] [Music]
[29:54] um so I want to talk about it
[29:57] at the time they don't work like the
[29:59] specific one that's going to come up
[30:00] with the white statues are like you know
[30:03] indicate
[30:04] they don't work a lot of time especially
[30:06] in the outcome outside
[30:11] [Music]
[30:13] there should be a lot of milk that I
[30:14] need
[30:16] Ed another thing that's about
[30:19] like parts of you know I like basketball
[30:21] coach and I know kids will come there
[30:22] literally you know
[30:25] some more kid-friendly
[30:29] yeah
[30:32] right
[30:43] so then that that overall conversation
[30:47] with the students was with the two
[30:48] principals of the building Chris Shank
[30:50] and Dennis Green just engaging in
[30:52] conversation with uh which then led to
[30:56] kind of some of their overall thoughts
[30:58] and kind of ideas that they wanted to
[31:00] kind of deliver throughout the community
[31:02] as a whole with that said I mean after
[31:05] that video these were these were the
[31:06] areas that the youth and that within the
[31:09] partnership as a whole were provided for
[31:10] students so the food drives the
[31:13] insecurity that the students spoke of
[31:15] the Cornell Cooperative Extension roots
[31:18] and wisdom sitcom Price Chopper niska
[31:21] Co-op which is some of those partners
[31:23] that were those work sites that were
[31:25] provided to the students for those
[31:27] overall experiences
[31:29] beautification of the city so anchoring
[31:32] on some of the things that were
[31:33] discussed even here at city council
[31:35] these were some of the overall programs
[31:38] that were provided to the students
[31:39] Within These two buckets of focus areas
[31:42] so the retreat project Hamilton Hill
[31:45] Arts Center and then the Schenectady
[31:47] County Conservation District with those
[31:50] areas within the beautification piece
[31:52] the parks and other opportunities for
[31:53] children you know we did have six of our
[31:55] students that worked through our summer
[31:58] enrichment program and again that kind
[32:00] of gets them engaged into that
[32:02] opportunity to work with students the
[32:04] goal then is to kind of inspire them and
[32:06] motivate them to shift into becoming
[32:07] Educators and becoming teachers within
[32:09] our district five worked with the Boys
[32:11] and Girls Club
[32:12] same kind of concept because those are
[32:14] some of the areas where our students
[32:16] kind of Thrive Sports and being involved
[32:19] in those type of activities and engaging
[32:20] within our youth uh Girls Inc I know
[32:23] that that's a huge motivating piece for
[32:25] our young ladies and that program does a
[32:26] phenomenal job in the community so
[32:28] helping them move those young ladies
[32:30] into those kind of leadership roles
[32:32] there my side has been a major partner
[32:35] as well which helps with the stem kind
[32:37] of opportunities in those particular
[32:38] accesses my daughter and me which is a
[32:41] program that runs within the community
[32:42] as a whole again just motivating and
[32:45] inspiring young ladies to believe in
[32:47] self
[32:49] um in the Parsons Early Learning Center
[32:52] the one the one I just want to share
[32:53] there was a young lady that they
[32:55] highlighted in reference to each
[32:57] particular site had the opportunity to
[32:59] recognize their employee of the summer
[33:03] um and this one was pretty interesting
[33:04] in the fact that the young lady was
[33:06] extremely shy before she started but
[33:09] then as she started to work and working
[33:11] within you know that the cashier and
[33:13] having to have the conversations to
[33:15] build on her overall confidence and
[33:17] she's actually now employed part-time
[33:19] within the within that particular CBS
[33:22] but it's just that story that at the end
[33:24] of the day once we connect our students
[33:26] to these opportunities it's just a
[33:28] startup where that then goes later on
[33:30] and she's doing a phenomenal job and now
[33:32] has built on her overall self esteem and
[33:35] confidence and is out there you know
[33:37] doing her thing
[33:39] uh that's that kind of completes the
[33:43] overall survey I mean here we as the
[33:45] district have this tagline of
[33:46] Schenectady Rising I do believe that
[33:48] this supports those efforts um in the
[33:51] community as a whole ultimately these 75
[33:54] students that were supported through
[33:55] city council and the mayor 75 students
[33:58] that would have not been supported that
[34:00] have all had an experience this Summer
[34:02] that now has either been a continued
[34:04] throughout the school year and if not
[34:07] they've transitioned those skills into
[34:09] preparing themselves for this upcoming
[34:11] Academic Year in preparing to now kind
[34:14] of plan for their future
[34:16] uh Schenectady is something that we lead
[34:19] within our district as well and as I
[34:21] mentioned at the beginning we're still
[34:22] working on bringing all these pieces
[34:24] together but at the end of the day we're
[34:26] trying to do all that we can to provide
[34:28] access to all uh within our community
[34:31] with that said any questions for me
[34:35] if that works I'll mentioned so I just want to clarify the 20 and Beyond
[34:41] so there were students out of the 75
[34:42] that kept 20 of them are working beyond
[34:45] the summer yes that they were able to
[34:48] continue within those and then others
[34:50] you know depending on whether or not
[34:52] they transitioned into sports but um 20
[34:55] of them were sustained throughout
[35:00] um so next year will it be another group
[35:02] like give another 75 children a chance
[35:05] or would we fall back to these children
[35:08] who already were working in that
[35:10] Workforce this year I think a
[35:12] combination and I think for those that
[35:13] are involved hopefully the the
[35:15] organizations in which they're working
[35:16] for they transition into those but I
[35:19] think I think even for this it was open
[35:21] to all we focused on the 75 within the
[35:24] district and then many others you know
[35:27] also had the opportunity but I would say
[35:29] a combination if we could I mean because
[35:31] again some of those particular
[35:33] jobs may be seeking those same
[35:35] individuals because some of them are as
[35:38] young as 14 so kind of roaming within
[35:40] that overall and we'll we'll connect
[35:42] with those students as well to kind of
[35:44] get a better sense on whether their
[35:46] desire is to continue because it's an
[35:47] area that they want to you know build
[35:49] upon us as leaders in the community
[35:52] very nice
[35:54] so it seems as though the 75 students it
[35:57] actually there there were sort of
[35:59] distinct
[36:00] jobs and job opportunities for these 75
[36:03] students within
[36:05] the larger Schenectady job and
[36:10] Improvement I forget what the acronym is
[36:12] but within that Schenectady County piece
[36:15] these 75 students were held distinct
[36:19] with the funding that we as a city had
[36:22] provided which was one of my concerns
[36:24] when we first talked about it so am I
[36:27] I'm hearing that correct yes I mean I
[36:29] think even with the the video itself
[36:30] ain't good those and so as they met I
[36:33] mean there's a process to it so there's
[36:35] an interview process and they they place
[36:37] the students based on that interview
[36:39] process but also based on the feedback
[36:41] that we provided in reference to where
[36:43] they want to work and there was a focus
[36:45] for our students in reference to what
[36:48] that video shared as far as those
[36:49] different and we had a you know print
[36:51] out that kind of also spoke to their
[36:53] overall interested in doing things
[36:55] within the community as a whole and one
[36:57] more uh the video was
[37:00] um before they all Yes
[37:03] um okay because I know that we had
[37:05] talked about that initially as well
[37:07] because it sounded like
[37:09] um you know that was initially I think
[37:11] mayor McCarthy's goal was to try to come
[37:13] up with projects that the students were
[37:15] interested in doing and it sounds like
[37:16] the video meant that yes neat and that
[37:19] video was done even before I presented
[37:21] that's what I was thinking yeah okay
[37:24] so that's so and then you tailored some
[37:26] of these positions to those different
[37:28] areas
[37:31] I'm glad about that uh in terms of
[37:33] funding we utilize all the funding that
[37:35] was allocated I don't believe we did you
[37:38] know so I know that there was
[37:39] conversations around looking
[37:41] um to the throughout the course of the
[37:42] school year and supporting some of those
[37:44] efforts I know some have the 20 have
[37:46] kind of shifted into the roles
[37:48] um outside of the school day but um I
[37:51] don't know exactly the the amount I
[37:53] think but I know that with the 75 it
[37:55] wasn't going to
[37:56] you know hit the threshold of what was
[37:59] supported to funds
[38:03] along those same lines I've been getting
[38:05] a lot of questions like that
[38:08] um could you send us uh a pretty
[38:11] detailed accounting of where the money
[38:13] went to how much was spent in the job
[38:16] titles associated with not the students
[38:19] I mean we have that but the
[38:21] administrative costs and things like
[38:23] that
[38:24] foreign
[38:55] were they each given some sort of
[38:58] evaluation form or something I mean I
[39:00] loved the story that you shared
[39:05] I was just wondering if you had that
[39:06] down they are I mean there's a there's a
[39:08] coach that was attached to them
[39:09] throughout the process as well they post
[39:11] them through and I mean that coach would
[39:13] also assess whether they were coming in
[39:14] on time
[39:16] um but there's also an end of the
[39:18] program evaluation that speaks there's
[39:20] also an evaluation of the interview to
[39:23] kind of highlight I don't know if that
[39:25] was a physical piece of paper that was
[39:27] given and if they kept but I can check
[39:29] to see if they've kept copies
[39:31] throughout the process there
[39:33] I wouldn't say evaluated but they're
[39:35] kind of coached throughout oh yeah and
[39:38] then they're provided with a closure
[39:40] kind of I actually meant the other way I
[39:43] remember that from when I was working
[39:45] and participated in this kind of a
[39:46] program but
[39:48] um I'm in where the students given
[39:50] something to evaluate their own
[39:51] experiences like the young woman's story
[39:54] that you shared do you think that each
[39:57] of the subjects I'd just be interested
[39:58] to see even what they thought about
[40:00] their experiences I think as a reflect
[40:02] but even if there if there wasn't like
[40:04] we can do that you know as a district we
[40:05] have ways in which to get a reflective
[40:07] piece but I can check to see if there
[40:10] was one on on that end but if not we can
[40:12] do one another so I think that you know
[40:14] the idea of this young woman who gained
[40:16] her confidence and and was able to you
[40:19] know a little bit find a voice uh that
[40:21] maybe she didn't start out the
[40:22] experience with is really
[40:25] um Rich uh and very meaningful so I
[40:28] appreciate you sharing that that story I
[40:30] think that you know
[40:32] our commitment to this program I think
[40:34] that you know one of the things that to
[40:35] your point I think can be a really good
[40:37] point is that what we want to do is we
[40:39] want to hear from the participants
[40:40] themselves I think that you know so we
[40:42] want to you know create um you know
[40:44] intentionally create some space and time
[40:46] for us to do that um I think that that would be really really valuable
[40:50] um not just for our own information but
[40:53] it kind of reinforces to the students
[40:55] that we're listening to you and and
[40:57] we're not just saying here let's you
[41:00] know write a check and then you just go
[41:02] get a jet plane we were listening to you
[41:04] we wanted to see where we can be better
[41:06] at and you want to make sure that you
[41:08] know we're hitting the Mark here and I
[41:10] think so kind of to you know to the
[41:12] mayor's initial idea around these things
[41:16] I don't think that you know we have
[41:18] fully gotten it so I think that's it's a
[41:22] process that we have to continue to
[41:23] build on because I think
[41:25] um
[41:26] this is a really important kind of
[41:28] stepping stone piece but I think that
[41:30] hearing from the youth themselves they
[41:32] will give us a lot of great feedback and
[41:34] I so I can't stress that enough so I
[41:35] think we will create some time space to
[41:37] do that
[41:41] any other questions thank you Dr photo
[41:44] thank you thank you so much
[41:47] [Music]
[41:52] falterative Finance community and of
[41:54] course item is a manned agreement to
[41:56] reimburse Schenectady County for work
[41:58] for Farms on behalf of the city of
[42:00] Schenectady police departments
[42:05] thank you Mr chairman uh this is it
[42:08] agreement that we've
[42:11] out of the county for a number of years
[42:13] this offsets we subsidized the cost of
[42:17] an investigator in the district's
[42:18] attorney's office in the uh kind of the
[42:21] simple uh
[42:23] recap of the process normally up until
[42:27] the arrest all the expenses are the
[42:30] responsibility of the police department
[42:31] after an arrest then the prosecution I
[42:34] think goes to the DA's office
[42:37] Rick Boris who's one of the
[42:40] investigators in DA's office has been
[42:43] very intricately involved in the
[42:45] evolution of the camera system and some
[42:47] of the technology so he comes in on a
[42:51] regular basis and staff some of the
[42:53] stuff to help the police really prereft
[42:57] some private committed they will cue the
[42:59] cameras up document the activity which
[43:04] leads to an arrest and some of that is
[43:06] Technically when you look at it really
[43:08] should be the responsibility of the
[43:09] police department they do it so this
[43:12] agreement we
[43:16] pay for some of that to the county and
[43:19] it's
[43:20] we don't get down to auditing every
[43:23] dollar and see there for so many hours
[43:26] but it's been a very functional in uh
[43:30] pragmatic relationship that has produced
[43:34] efficiencies both in the DA's office and
[43:37] for
[43:38] Department's perspective and this I
[43:41] think we're looking for a three-year
[43:42] contract at twenty one thousand dollars
[43:46] appreciate the council's authorization
[43:50] go ahead
[43:51] um so so um yeah we are but actually we
[43:55] um passed in January 2021 but what we
[43:57] passed we didn't um we passed for three
[44:00] years and and this is according to Mr
[44:02] Colden was is an amendment to that
[44:04] agreement right it's to extend it yes so
[44:07] that we it started in year one and then
[44:10] three years automatically low renewal
[44:23] any other questions
[44:26] may have a motion
[44:29] second all in favor
[44:32] the next item is discussion noise
[44:35] violation and this is the follow-up Mr
[44:37] palomini yes this will be quick uh just
[44:40] to keep it keep it on radar Mr paluccio
[44:43] will be at the next meeting to present
[44:46] on this issue
[44:48] um and just wanted to keep it up there
[44:50] because a couple people were asking
[44:51] about it and uh due to different things
[44:55] scheduling conflicts and whatnot it will
[44:58] be at the next week
[45:00] [Music]
[45:03] in a class study on this if possible
[45:06] I'll see yeah
[45:08] I have to hold it until the next morning
[45:11] a lot of it's already places like that
[45:13] okay all right so we'll have this in two
[45:16] weeks time back on the agenda yeah
[45:20] the next item is discussion American
[45:22] Rescue plan Act
[45:26] no okay
[45:29] it looks like he's coming hugs well I'm
[45:31] sure
[45:37] you want to talk about it I can I can
[45:40] only talk I can I don't want to speak to
[45:42] Mr Crowley but I knew that what his um
[45:44] what the reason he has to have it back
[45:46] on the agenda was as you all know we've
[45:48] talked about
[45:50] it's freeway for me we talked about
[45:53] it and um so his uh about having a
[45:57] second round and
[45:59] um that we when we initially talked
[46:01] about it that there was much
[46:03] conversation about the second round and
[46:06] even on the um
[46:08] website said that the first money was
[46:10] the initial round and so Mr Farley's
[46:13] point was we should be discussing and
[46:16] making real efforts to have the second
[46:18] round so that's my understanding of my
[46:21] conversations with him I don't want to
[46:22] speak for him
[46:24] entirely but
[46:27] that's it any discussion
[46:31] I should wait I'd like to hear from Mr
[46:35] Farley
[46:36] can you see me no I can't and he wasn't
[46:39] talking to us so I mean he was not you
[46:43] were talking to Dr Coto I think right
[46:45] yes
[46:47] off for two weeks
[46:50] while he'll be back in the room in a
[46:52] minute so we can hear whatever he has to
[46:53] say I don't think he has an obvious
[46:55] phone
[47:02] oh
[47:10] there he comes
[47:16] [Music]
[47:24] foreign
[47:28] just kind of like tried to recap what
[47:30] our discussion so you can
[47:33] disabilities that you have to do this
[47:35] topic of the article sure so so
[47:37] um my last committee meeting we
[47:39] discussed um
[47:41] throughout the process we talked about
[47:43] the possibility of uh there being a
[47:45] second round application process
[47:48] um and my thoughts on that were that
[47:50] that's something that we said we were
[47:52] going to do
[47:53] um and I just think that if we have the
[47:56] capacity to do it then we should we
[47:58] should do it and I but I know that
[48:00] there's also some considerations that we
[48:02] have to make around our projects right
[48:04] so I think that you
[48:07] we can kind of put our heads together to
[48:09] see how we can uh manage to do both
[48:11] things I think that's the way we should
[48:13] be thinking that's all
[48:15] right questions in regards
[48:21] go ahead please I respectfully uh
[48:24] disagree with opening up the process
[48:26] again I think that we've spent a lot of
[48:28] time on the first round and we still
[48:31] have many applications that we have not
[48:33] considered from the first round plus I
[48:36] think that I think we're down to about
[48:38] nine million dollars that is left in the
[48:43] original
[48:43] 52.52 million dollars is the last time
[48:46] we said 10. it was like under 10 or you
[48:50] know that kind of thing so good
[48:51] um I wasn't here so two weeks ago so I
[48:54] you know didn't keep as good track last
[48:57] that time
[48:59] um so I just feel like there's still
[49:00] some projects that um I think each of us
[49:03] might want to still see come to the
[49:06] table I don't know when we're going to
[49:08] have that discussion but um from the
[49:10] first round so
[49:12] um I'd leave it at that but I think
[49:16] reopening another Grant application
[49:18] process will and I know we have time
[49:22] but I just feel that it's not fair to
[49:25] the initial Grant applicants
[49:28] um that we may not have already
[49:29] considered so I leave it at that that's
[49:33] my piece
[49:35] that's not nice to me
[49:38] so uh so what I was I I can see why we
[49:42] might feel that way so I don't I don't
[49:44] think we're too far apart on thinking on
[49:45] that which is a good thing but I guess
[49:49] then I think we should have kind of
[49:52] framed it differently like um just a
[49:54] language that we use the Honda City
[49:55] website
[49:57] um and you know the conversation that we
[49:59] had
[50:00] um in previous committee meetings
[50:02] um you know the public has an
[50:04] expectation that for the people who
[50:06] didn't
[50:07] um submit the application uh for the
[50:09] first round that they would have an
[50:11] opportunity to submit for the second one
[50:13] so I I don't know that it has to be
[50:16] either or I think that you know we do
[50:19] need to look at the funds that are
[50:21] remaining and still consider um some of
[50:24] the different projects
[50:26] that have Rose to the level of kind of
[50:29] priority
[50:30] um through the development office as
[50:32] well as feedback that we've gotten from
[50:34] stakeholders so I think I think we can
[50:36] do both and I think we should do both
[50:38] and I wouldn't be opposed to the idea of
[50:41] like I know that like having the
[50:44] advisory committee
[50:45] um you know some of the um other things
[50:47] you know I don't think we need to um if we could still do it without those without those uh things
[50:54] that made it a little the process a
[50:56] little longer but I do think that you
[50:58] know again that we kind of need to honor
[51:00] our word and see um if we can do both
[51:02] that's the way we should be thinking but
[51:04] I I appreciate your feedback
[51:09] once again just want to clarify we
[51:12] didn't all agree to this and I
[51:14] understand what you're saying but people
[51:16] need to understand that wasn't a council
[51:19] agreement
[51:20] the if we wanted to have a second round
[51:24] it would have made much more sense to I
[51:26] think a pointless the Toro made to stop
[51:29] around the 26 million point
[51:32] that would have been fair and it would
[51:34] have given everybody an opportunity now
[51:36] we're at less than 10 million dollars
[51:39] quite frankly uh you know it just
[51:43] doesn't make sense to me at this point
[51:45] and I would be strongly opposed to a
[51:48] second round
[52:00] so again I I didn't look at the city
[52:03] website but if it says initial I need an
[52:06] initial being
[52:08] how we're starting
[52:11] first does it mean there's a second I
[52:14] was never in favor of a second round at
[52:16] all and there's still quite a few
[52:17] projects that the initial
[52:20] Grant organizations put in through
[52:23] grants that I would like to still push
[52:25] through
[52:26] um and how fair is it to them
[52:28] that and we got 76 million dollars in
[52:31] requests from the first
[52:33] initial process so now we have like 9.8
[52:37] million left to spend we open up for a
[52:39] second round and there's 80 million
[52:41] dollars worth of I mean
[52:44] it's over it's done we have our
[52:46] applications let's move it thank you sir
[52:53] okay so um I just want to clarify that
[52:56] the um idea of having applications it
[53:00] was not like that was not accountable
[53:01] decision and to see it really is an
[53:03] accounts decision that's the mayor's
[53:04] decision because it's his staff that has
[53:07] to do the work so it's like we can
[53:08] express our opinions but as you know the
[53:10] first the idea of doing the tour is the
[53:12] idea of opening application process and
[53:14] all that that's something that's an
[53:16] administrative function in that how this
[53:18] all happened so
[53:20] um I just wanted I I I'm the mayor's
[53:22] going to speak next so
[53:24] um I just want to keep that in mind
[53:25] although we have our opinions
[53:28] um we you know we've staffed us with the
[53:30] what the mayor direction is and it was
[53:33] his Direction on this to have an
[53:34] application process and
[53:36] um they asked and I would say that I was
[53:38] really driving the driving force was
[53:40] about the advisory committee which I
[53:41] still do not think was a bad idea it
[53:43] didn't work out as well as um had hoped
[53:46] but people got to give input and I will
[53:48] never say that that's the wrong thing
[53:49] for our community to be able to give
[53:51] input and others who you know where we
[53:54] get to this table right now
[53:56] um the seven of us however there were
[53:58] times when when we were the other people
[54:01] who were just in the community or or as
[54:03] we refer to people so
[54:05] of individuals who don't necessarily sit
[54:07] with us every day that we we ask people
[54:08] to sit on commission Etc have input and
[54:11] valuable input so
[54:13] um so that part of what I would not ask
[54:14] if there were a second round which I do
[54:16] support I would not ask that there'd be
[54:18] an advisory committee um but again that
[54:19] whether or not those around the
[54:21] application really that that comes out
[54:28] that uh
[54:29] my position at this point is you know
[54:31] the council has moved through what I
[54:33] would call an interesting
[54:35] you have
[54:37] authorized the expenditure on a number
[54:39] of projects
[54:42] were
[54:43] from the administration side now
[54:45] starting to put together contracts for
[54:49] those projects
[54:53] I am skeptical on some of the
[54:56] assumptions and some of the numbers that
[54:58] are in those and where you say there's X
[55:01] number of dollars left
[55:04] could very well be true
[55:07] I'm not sure that it's going to hold up
[55:08] in what I want is some time to be able
[55:12] to evaluate those projects move ahead so
[55:15] that we have better cost estimates to
[55:17] make sure what the council has done so
[55:19] far are going to be successful and we're
[55:22] going to be able to complete it
[55:26] and I don't have a time on this I'm
[55:29] going to take this 30 days I can tell
[55:30] you no it's going to be longer I don't
[55:33] know how much longer but before we go
[55:37] off and start to talk about spending
[55:40] other money I want to make sure we have
[55:42] money to complete what we've started
[55:46] and then again be able to use that money
[55:50] in the manner that will best leverage
[55:52] the resources within the community so
[55:54] that
[55:55] it'll give you some updates
[55:58] on a regular basis we
[56:01] the structures look to uh
[56:05] have kind of a standard component of the
[56:08] contract and then there will be a
[56:10] variable
[56:12] that specific project is and what goals
[56:14] we're looking for you know some are
[56:16] conditioned upon other funding there's
[56:18] always site control uh
[56:21] there can be major deals and some of
[56:24] these have not been done before so it's
[56:26] a little bit complicated and
[56:30] so at this point
[56:32] you've given myself and the staff a lot
[56:35] of work to do
[56:37] we're looking forward to going ahead
[56:39] with that and
[56:41] I'm not in a rush to make commitments on
[56:45] what is perceived to be money that's
[56:47] left over at this point
[56:50] thank you
[56:52] the last time we discussed this couple
[56:53] weeks ago there were there were strong
[56:55] arguments on both sides that we had the
[56:56] full Council and I was played before I
[56:59] was on
[57:00] I mean we received roughly about 70
[57:03] applications for funding we went through
[57:06] these applications through the advisory
[57:09] through our to the council we funded
[57:11] many of these Community projects and
[57:14] many of the city projects we are at
[57:18] roughly 42 million dollars of allocation
[57:21] already with the balance of about 10
[57:23] million dollars nine million dollars
[57:25] remaining
[57:27] so you know actually mayor we need to
[57:29] look at um
[57:31] there are a couple processes that we
[57:32] need to look at some people are calling
[57:33] out the Woodland Park The Grove Park
[57:36] it's time to Parks those are parts that
[57:37] we need to address us because these are
[57:40] parts that
[57:41] for over a year is have not received any
[57:43] funding so I think it's wise for us to
[57:45] allocate so coming here and I would ask
[57:47] the man this life to look at how
[57:49] possible we can fund these parts and
[57:52] some projects out there also for job
[57:54] retention can I will ask that we if we
[57:58] can get a more accurate number on the
[58:01] job retention over the period of time
[58:03] that was presented to us
[58:05] uh overall I am not in favor of Us
[58:09] opening up
[58:10] on our own we have many applications
[58:12] here let's look at the applications on
[58:14] in hand
[58:16] and let's look at them let's look at the
[58:19] in-house projects that the mayor has
[58:21] and in terms of that let's try to keep
[58:25] much of the remaining funding within the
[58:29] city I think that will overall help us
[58:31] with the budget
[58:36] so I think um to the marriage point I I
[58:40] can definitely get behind um you know us
[58:43] I think it would be pretty wise for us
[58:45] to see exactly um
[58:47] how the commitments that we've already
[58:50] made how they're going to flush out and
[58:52] um and make sure that you know our
[58:54] numbers are are accurate
[58:57] um so what you know when if and when we
[58:59] do um
[59:01] communicate that to our garden Community
[59:04] saying hey you know we're going to open
[59:06] up another applications or not at least
[59:08] that you know we know where we stand I
[59:09] think we need to make an informed
[59:11] decision so I can really appreciate that
[59:12] so I definitely would support that
[59:15] um
[59:17] two things can be true and I think that
[59:20] we need to know where we're at so we
[59:23] have solid footing and making informed
[59:24] decisions going forward and I think that
[59:26] we also need to make every effort to
[59:30] honor what we said we were going to do
[59:33] and honor the expectations of the people
[59:35] in the community
[59:36] um and I really appreciate the fact that
[59:38] this is something that hasn't happened
[59:40] before and I think that that is really
[59:43] uh a good thing and it's a unique
[59:45] opportunity
[59:47] um to uh changing material conditions of
[59:49] people that are like curiosity so we
[59:50] just want to continue to keep that as
[59:52] our
[59:53] the lens that we're using when we're
[59:55] thinking about you know what we're going
[59:56] to do with this funny movie for it so I
[59:59] would say that I'm in favor of what the
[1:00:02] mayor is saying around like let's uh
[1:00:05] give the staff
[1:00:07] um time to kind of look at where we're
[1:00:09] standing now but again I just want to be
[1:00:12] clear that I still think that we should
[1:00:13] find ways to um give all the community
[1:00:16] access to these funds
[1:00:21] thank you
[1:00:24] so is there an agreement to wait until
[1:00:26] the mayor comes back to us with um
[1:00:30] his findings about how we move forward
[1:00:32] is that what I'm sending in the council
[1:00:34] now
[1:00:35] I don't I think that's just the best way
[1:00:37] the best I'm sorry yeah the best
[1:00:39] direction to uh to go in it just makes
[1:00:42] sense and you know mayor and I you did
[1:00:44] mention that in different meanings so it
[1:00:46] makes sense we have to see where we land
[1:00:49] together and again in agreement with the
[1:00:52] mayor and there may be some funds that
[1:00:54] we give back as well with some of the
[1:00:56] money that we doled out to the
[1:00:58] organizations in need who may not be
[1:01:00] able to meet the contingency so there
[1:01:03] may be funding coming back to us so
[1:01:05] let's just give it a break and
[1:01:08] take a breath
[1:01:15] so very good just want to I just click
[1:01:17] with me there was an email that was sent
[1:01:19] to us I think it's Friday with regards
[1:01:21] to Poco house wanted to amend their
[1:01:25] application after the fact that they
[1:01:28] were funded
[1:01:29] I think that's very problematic to
[1:01:32] revise or amend an application after the
[1:01:35] funding was already allocated so I think
[1:01:38] that we have to bear in mind that we
[1:01:41] as Council should look at us and not
[1:01:43] support something like that because it's
[1:01:45] if we're going to do that then we have
[1:01:47] to do it for everybody and what are we
[1:01:48] creating and creating problems but after
[1:01:51] the fact we're changing the application
[1:01:53] just to avoid contingency
[1:01:56] so I just want to bring that to the
[1:01:58] table for you guys saw a Gmail
[1:02:02] um and we all saw the email and I agree
[1:02:04] that I mean it was really clearly stated
[1:02:05] that we were trying to uh it didn't say
[1:02:09] avoid continuously but at best it did
[1:02:11] say eliminate eliminate was the word to
[1:02:13] you so
[1:02:14] um
[1:02:15] I want to have a conversation with the
[1:02:17] mayor and and development but I don't um
[1:02:19] see that we leave we voted through a
[1:02:22] piece of legislation for it as the
[1:02:25] application was presented to us
[1:02:27] so um now to come back and to say we'd
[1:02:31] like to change that elbow you voted it
[1:02:33] through like this it's different than
[1:02:35] those who came and asked for revisions
[1:02:37] prior to us voting that's very different
[1:02:39] so
[1:02:41] um
[1:02:41] in terms of that to me that that almost
[1:02:43] looks like you need to like come back
[1:02:45] with a whole new application because
[1:02:46] it's it's a very different scope of work
[1:02:49] very very different
[1:02:51] go ahead please total agreement this
[1:02:55] for the field absolutely I feel the same
[1:02:57] way
[1:02:58] and you got a question on that I attend
[1:03:00] on that email
[1:03:05] a motion to adjourn so second all in
[1:03:10] favor all right
[1:03:13] the next item sorry about your Public
[1:03:16] Safety and the first one item is a
[1:03:19] discussion reducing City speed limit to
[1:03:21] 25 miles per hour Miss Patrick yes so we
[1:03:25] had previously uh discussed reducing the
[1:03:28] speed limit to 25 miles per hour the
[1:03:30] council voted to have a letter sent to
[1:03:33] the governor requesting that she signed
[1:03:35] that legislation
[1:03:37] um I think this is back in June that we
[1:03:39] had that conversation
[1:03:40] and she did indeed uh right after she
[1:03:44] got the
[1:03:45] alerted the letter and she actually said
[1:03:48] uh to the Schenectady City
[1:03:52] no but in any case she did recently
[1:03:55] assign the legislation which I think
[1:03:58] many people across the state including
[1:04:00] the New York Council of Mayors advocated
[1:04:03] for for that reduction in the speed
[1:04:04] limit so I wanted to bring that
[1:04:07] conversation back to the table I wanted
[1:04:09] to ask the question of staff I wanted to
[1:04:12] hear from Chief Clifford about his
[1:04:14] thoughts about reducing the speed limit
[1:04:16] I was hoping that we could ask him to
[1:04:18] speak to that I also want to raise the
[1:04:21] question I know that we can't just say
[1:04:23] gee we're going to reduce the speed
[1:04:25] limit to 25 there's a lot that would go
[1:04:27] into all of that and so I think that's
[1:04:30] the question for staff as well is what
[1:04:33] would we need to do in order to
[1:04:35] implement the 25 mile per hour a 25 mile
[1:04:38] per hour speed limit so I just wanted to
[1:04:41] make sure that we reopen the discussion
[1:04:43] based on the fact that Governor Hopewell
[1:04:45] did indeed sign the legislation so is
[1:04:48] that why I think you've invited yeah
[1:04:55] so I'm generally in support of of the 25
[1:04:59] mile per hour speed limit
[1:05:02] I think that we're becoming more of a
[1:05:04] pedestrian friendly community
[1:05:06] see many more people riding bicycles out
[1:05:08] there and it's just a lot of General
[1:05:10] activity out on the streets where
[1:05:13] encouraging motorists to drive slower is
[1:05:15] a good idea
[1:05:18] with a 30 mile an hour speed limit I
[1:05:20] think we're seeing those push the limits
[1:05:22] by going seven 10 miles an hour over
[1:05:24] that brings us closer to 40 miles an
[1:05:26] hour
[1:05:27] and even when we write the tickets they
[1:05:30] go through the court system they only
[1:05:32] look like they're seven miles an hour it
[1:05:34] doesn't look as bad as 12 or 15.
[1:05:37] because they are our judges a little bit
[1:05:39] more
[1:05:40] uh
[1:05:41] ability to you know give points to help
[1:05:45] reckless drivers that are going over the
[1:05:46] speed limit a little bit more gives a
[1:05:49] motivation to the driver to drive slower
[1:05:51] knowing that that could be the
[1:05:53] repercussion which is to have points put
[1:05:54] on their license which increases their
[1:05:56] insurance rates
[1:05:58] and you know I live in the city I drive
[1:06:01] around a lot I see a lot of speakers
[1:06:03] that are out there they're out there so
[1:06:05] what I would recommend is if we do do
[1:06:07] this we have to have a good public
[1:06:08] relations campaign
[1:06:10] educating drivers that they need to
[1:06:12] reduce their speed maybe tell them why
[1:06:14] it's important to them to reduce their
[1:06:16] speed
[1:06:16] and we'll take a gradual approach to
[1:06:18] enforcement but then once we once we
[1:06:21] decide to start enforcing it we will
[1:06:22] certainly do stuff
[1:06:27] [Music]
[1:06:31] educational system what about the time
[1:06:33] in terms of the resource needed for this
[1:06:37] enforcement if this were to happen
[1:06:41] okay that's that's that's currently like
[1:06:44] my biggest challenge with my resources
[1:06:45] having enough officers to do it and but
[1:06:48] I'm hopeful that by the time we actually
[1:06:50] implemented it because I'm a monthly
[1:06:52] understanding that some studies would
[1:06:53] need to be done Citywide and then of
[1:06:56] course we have to do all the sign
[1:06:57] changing everything we would have some
[1:06:59] time and by then we'll have the Staffing
[1:07:02] in place be able to do the enforcement
[1:07:04] right I'm currently found one officer in
[1:07:07] My Traffic Division but we haven't
[1:07:08] replaced until we get the ones out of
[1:07:10] the economy but by this time next year
[1:07:12] we will certainly hopefully be fully
[1:07:14] staffed that's my My Hope and that was
[1:07:16] the reason why I asked the question
[1:07:17] because you're currently you're a stress
[1:07:18] team this will give you more enforcement
[1:07:21] how we're going to carry out
[1:07:25] go ahead that's better
[1:07:27] um actually my question was going to be
[1:07:29] about enforcement because certainly that
[1:07:31] was something that um you know we've
[1:07:33] heard from various residents about that
[1:07:35] concern around enforcement but I think
[1:07:38] also you touched on the idea that
[1:07:40] traffic studies would have to happen as
[1:07:42] well
[1:07:43] um and I think we could speak to that a
[1:07:45] little bit as well that before we would
[1:07:47] move in a direction we'd have to also
[1:07:50] have undergo traffic studies to really
[1:07:53] look at where in particular
[1:07:56] the speeding is happening where is there
[1:08:00] more accidents I mean some of that data
[1:08:02] we already have collected in previous
[1:08:08] I think speak to some of the accident
[1:08:10] areas
[1:08:13] um the prevalence of accidents I should
[1:08:14] say but those studies I'm not sure if
[1:08:18] those are studies that happen through Mr
[1:08:20] glucose on this or
[1:08:22] um
[1:08:24] my understanding is we would get a
[1:08:26] traffic consultant to do that you know
[1:08:30] we can provide them some data that's
[1:08:31] going to require outside
[1:08:35] engineering evaluation
[1:08:39] uh mayor to add to that can be also
[1:08:41] attached when the studies being done on
[1:08:43] the traffic and we attach a cost study
[1:08:45] in terms of replacing the science and
[1:08:47] also additional Staffing for enforcement
[1:08:49] [Music]
[1:08:51] yes I think Jen had some numbers for
[1:08:54] design replacement I don't know what the
[1:08:57] chief is
[1:08:58] unfortunately can be a widely variant
[1:09:01] number dependent
[1:09:04] in the staff and again what just what
[1:09:08] the circumstances are in the field
[1:09:11] and is that something that we can easily
[1:09:13] put together over the course of time and
[1:09:15] we come back for presentation
[1:09:17] definitely yeah yeah we would yeah we
[1:09:20] would look at enforcement from being on
[1:09:22] a daily level but then we would also put
[1:09:23] together targeted details in certain
[1:09:26] areas not only where the complaints are
[1:09:27] coming from and to be able to have a
[1:09:30] higher concentration and make it be
[1:09:32] known to the motors that were out there
[1:09:33] enforcing it that's the biggest that's
[1:09:35] the most important thing we always want
[1:09:37] to try to get voluntary compliance and
[1:09:39] the best way to do that is to be visibly
[1:09:42] enforced unfortunately go ahead sorry my
[1:09:45] question will more towards the man this
[1:09:47] is do you see any way that kind of the
[1:09:50] Smart City technology that we've
[1:09:51] installed
[1:09:53] um kind of supporting this as far as the
[1:09:55] studies go
[1:10:07] and that's what someone were trying to
[1:10:10] do is go through that which enhances the
[1:10:12] enforcements you can identify where the
[1:10:15] uh
[1:10:17] the bigger problems are put the
[1:10:19] resources to leverage them in a more
[1:10:22] aggressive manner but yes there are ways
[1:10:25] that we can do that uh
[1:10:31] probably should be if you want to do it
[1:10:33] also have a meeting independent of this
[1:10:35] or do a presentation at a committee
[1:10:37] meeting on a more robust
[1:10:40] analysis of all the things that are out
[1:10:42] there things
[1:10:43] that are doing and things that we would
[1:10:45] like to do going forward
[1:10:49] well I will defer I was going to point
[1:10:51] out that
[1:10:52] um Mr Paul many actually had presented
[1:10:54] and I see this as only one component as
[1:10:57] I've stressed over and over again and I
[1:11:00] think that what Mr palmetti presented
[1:11:02] can't remember when a few committee
[1:11:04] meetings ago maybe two months could you
[1:11:06] speak to that a little bit so we
[1:11:09] hopefully you remember
[1:11:11] um because I don't
[1:11:12] we did ask for home rule legislation
[1:11:15] from the state
[1:11:17] um the idea was to be able to have the
[1:11:20] ability to use technology like what
[1:11:22] you're talking about with speed cameras
[1:11:24] and so forth to help with the
[1:11:27] enforcement aspect to get in areas where
[1:11:30] let's face it there's only so many
[1:11:32] police officers right so this could also
[1:11:35] help and people know those are there if
[1:11:37] they get tickets they'll definitely know
[1:11:39] they're there and hopefully that will be
[1:11:43] passed by the state and allow us to use
[1:11:45] our technology which we have to try to
[1:11:48] address some of these issues
[1:11:52] any other questions
[1:11:54] this is well it's related to speeding
[1:11:57] but not about reducing the speed limit
[1:11:58] because it sounds like based on what the
[1:12:00] Chiefs are saying this is going to be a
[1:12:01] longer and what's being said it's going
[1:12:02] to be a longer process it's not going to
[1:12:04] happen today tomorrow next month
[1:12:06] um but we continually have speeding and
[1:12:09] so we various places have asked for stop
[1:12:12] signs and I know Mrs fulicho says you
[1:12:14] know there'd be traffic studies Etc but
[1:12:18] somebody who sit down the porch on a
[1:12:20] regular basis and sees the speeding
[1:12:21] going on it's a pretty good study and so
[1:12:24] um there's a can we get a car up to the
[1:12:27] president it's not my house
[1:12:31] it's on Becker Street if you want to
[1:12:33] know it's on Becker Street there's an
[1:12:34] entire stretch where there's no lights
[1:12:36] all the way and they just like hit the
[1:12:38] gas and shoot all the way through on
[1:12:39] Console Road apparently that was a
[1:12:41] problem because you've had to stop every
[1:12:43] I don't even say every other block but I
[1:12:45] think it's pretty much every block so I
[1:12:47] know that there are folks out there who
[1:12:48] really have concerns about that and we
[1:12:50] if we could since it's going to take a
[1:12:52] while for us to get this process done we
[1:12:54] really do need to take something to at
[1:12:57] least break people's speeding you know
[1:12:59] stopping where they have to stop if they
[1:13:01] stop they'll do a rolling stop but I
[1:13:04] think we should really consider if we
[1:13:06] can putting up more um stop signs people
[1:13:09] are asking for it on a regular basis
[1:13:11] any any updates on the speed homes
[1:13:16] Mr
[1:13:19] Walton is here oh the question Mr
[1:13:21] Walling was okay
[1:13:26] do you want to come up no no you don't
[1:13:29] want to tell them
[1:13:30] I think I don't want to but I will any
[1:13:33] status please would appreciate it
[1:13:38] so I met with SPD traffic we determined
[1:13:42] the speed bumps that we like the size
[1:13:43] the style
[1:13:46] they are way more labor intensive than
[1:13:48] we thought we had everything together
[1:13:50] and then we kind of had a pause while we
[1:13:54] went through a transition and purchasing
[1:13:56] we have a new purchasing agent now I
[1:13:58] have new revised quotes and they're
[1:14:01] going to be ordered I mean I know we
[1:14:03] talk about ordering them but I don't
[1:14:05] want to get into in-house business so we
[1:14:07] had issues with purchasing at one point
[1:14:08] and then we were trying to determine
[1:14:10] some things and two things coincided so
[1:14:12] now we have everything ready we're going
[1:14:13] to be getting them and ordering them on
[1:14:15] the state contract this week we were
[1:14:17] just trying to work out the details of
[1:14:19] them they're they're quite large just so
[1:14:21] everybody knows that was part of what we
[1:14:23] were looking at to make sure the size of
[1:14:25] them there or not uh speed bumps just so
[1:14:29] everybody's wearing these are not
[1:14:30] something that you'll see in a parking
[1:14:31] lot these have to be made to put in
[1:14:33] traffic so a vehicle you know has to
[1:14:37] they're called speed tables so instead
[1:14:40] of five feet these are actually going to
[1:14:41] be 14 feet they're put in sections by
[1:14:43] ogs they're actually anchored into the
[1:14:46] drown that was part of the thing that
[1:14:47] we're talking about we also
[1:14:49] um just do a little due diligence
[1:14:50] because uh John cuccio talked with is
[1:14:53] kind of part of Albany after our
[1:14:55] meetings Albany just put a half a
[1:14:57] million dollars into Arbor Hill with
[1:15:00] what they're calling uh like a test
[1:15:03] program but it is permanent I mean they
[1:15:05] put in permanent speed bumps so we watch
[1:15:08] and I talk with our Paving contractor
[1:15:10] about that and the cost to do it in that
[1:15:13] way uh really outweighed the temporary
[1:15:15] ones even with the installation because
[1:15:17] even if we were to temporarily pay uh
[1:15:20] like almost put asphalt pumps into there
[1:15:22] every year we'd have to Mill them out
[1:15:24] we'd have to do a lot of work so we
[1:15:26] moved away from them they weren't as
[1:15:28] cost feasible so they are I talked to
[1:15:32] the vendor yesterday uh not yesterday
[1:15:33] they
[1:15:34] talk to them under on Thursday we were
[1:15:36] just getting we're going to go with a
[1:15:38] yellow pattern so we're in a good spot
[1:15:40] for them and we don't have them yet but
[1:15:42] we will have them soon
[1:15:43] thank you sure go ahead please good
[1:15:47] question would you want to take them off
[1:15:48] for winter yes
[1:15:52] and that's part of it we have permanent
[1:15:54] ones if we do determine locations for
[1:15:57] permanent I mean there are ways that you
[1:15:59] know you key in the asphalt you end up
[1:16:01] put markers on each side to work plows
[1:16:03] you put the signs that um I mean they
[1:16:05] there are municipalities with the
[1:16:07] permanent speed bumps on roadways so it
[1:16:10] is possible but I think the conversation
[1:16:12] was let's try these see how they affect
[1:16:15] things also I mean not to talk about you
[1:16:17] know your business and things but you
[1:16:18] know we were just meeting with them
[1:16:19] about new signs the new radar signs we
[1:16:23] just had a meeting with that under so
[1:16:25] there are a lot of things that were that
[1:16:27] we're looking at we've got a lot of
[1:16:28] positive feedback about the stop signs
[1:16:31] with the drinking LED lights and I know
[1:16:33] that uh John is actually looking at you
[1:16:35] know if there's other locations that
[1:16:37] would benefit from those so
[1:16:39] you know I think the goal is always to
[1:16:41] have more Tools in your toolbox so maybe
[1:16:44] these will help because enforcement can
[1:16:46] only do so much right so good job thank
[1:16:50] you thank you thank you
[1:16:54] so I don't think we can have it back in
[1:16:56] two weeks
[1:17:00] make sure we were all
[1:17:03] awesome Authority Chief yeah
[1:17:08] okay okay all right oh sorry this is
[1:17:12] just my own curiosity so like so I would
[1:17:15] think that you know we would probably
[1:17:17] prioritize
[1:17:19] um based on whatever data you get and as
[1:17:21] well as products like school players or
[1:17:23] schools and um things like that but I
[1:17:25] would just think do we find and
[1:17:28] course I don't expect you to have a
[1:17:30] perfect answer to this this is really
[1:17:31] just my own curiosity like do we find
[1:17:33] like in areas right now where like
[1:17:35] school zones where there's already a
[1:17:37] reduced uh speed expectation there and
[1:17:40] do
[1:17:42] does that work or does you think that
[1:17:46] like overall is that effective I think
[1:17:48] because I would think that if it is
[1:17:50] effective there I mean there are some variables there but it
[1:17:54] might kind of lend support to the
[1:17:56] for a larger Community as well that's a
[1:17:59] good question if I answer it I probably
[1:18:00] would just be guessing maybe my own
[1:18:02] opinion on it which I think is yes it
[1:18:05] does it does have an effect when people
[1:18:06] know the speed limit's been reduced they
[1:18:09] typically slow down because there's
[1:18:11] always the exceptions to the rules but I
[1:18:14] think that there's a comfort level
[1:18:15] knowing that 30 mile an hour is where
[1:18:18] the limit is and police officers won't
[1:18:21] stop unless you're going five to ten
[1:18:23] miles over in there so yeah a little 37
[1:18:25] I'm fine but if you're 12 over 25 then
[1:18:29] you better slow down because you know
[1:18:31] something at 25 for the expectations
[1:18:33] maybe they'll do 30.
[1:18:36] if I could just add to them that there
[1:18:39] was research done there are National
[1:18:41] studies that were part of the
[1:18:42] legislation even that the State Assembly
[1:18:45] and Senate sent to Governor Hogle that
[1:18:47] did indicate percentages of if the speed
[1:18:51] was reduced just even that five miles
[1:18:53] down from 30 to 25 they did see
[1:18:57] um and I can't remember the specifics
[1:18:59] but I can get it for you they did see a
[1:19:01] reduction in speed exactly the way that
[1:19:04] the chief is is indicating not to
[1:19:06] mention that that Five Mile drop in the
[1:19:09] speed limit also
[1:19:12] increased the safety of pedestrians
[1:19:15] um and so that data was included in the
[1:19:18] initial piece of legislation that that
[1:19:20] we had looked at
[1:19:22] um back in June I guess it was so I'll
[1:19:25] try to dig that up and get it out again
[1:19:28] [Music]
[1:19:31] if there's no other question emotions
[1:19:34] second all in favor aye thank you thank you
[1:19:40] for government operations we have one
[1:19:43] item on the agenda
[1:19:46] discover residency board and as
[1:19:48] president Portugal thank you uh
[1:19:52] of course the legislation
[1:19:54] um
[1:19:54] regarding changing the residency
[1:19:57] requirements and that did fail however
[1:20:00] part of the current resident department
[1:20:03] is that there's a residency board
[1:20:05] which has to be con which should be
[1:20:08] convenient in order to give people who
[1:20:10] reside outside of the city waivers so um
[1:20:13] that's something that really needs to be
[1:20:14] convened is the mayor it's up to the
[1:20:16] mayor to convenient it's five members on
[1:20:18] the board uh the mayor has represented
[1:20:20] him herself or representative issues
[1:20:23] this Corporation Council as well and
[1:20:25] then um three from the council so I'm
[1:20:27] going to be recommending that we um get
[1:20:29] those members on that board and we keep
[1:20:31] being the board and look at the um
[1:20:33] looking at those individuals who are
[1:20:36] currently working within the city who do
[1:20:39] not currently have a waiver
[1:20:41] so just wanted to have that discussion
[1:20:44] or just to mention that so
[1:20:50] it's a discussion going on
[1:20:54] okay
[1:21:04] I'd like to open uh oh no I like to call
[1:21:08] the board of student development and
[1:21:09] planning
[1:21:10] we have nine ends on the agenda
[1:21:12] first item is a 501 State Street license
[1:21:15] agreement for outdoor patio in swallow
[1:21:24] uh 501 State Street is a new building
[1:21:29] that is almost done with construction
[1:21:32] and corner of State Street and
[1:21:35] I believe Barrett and Clinton it's on a
[1:21:39] it's a Redburn property one of the
[1:21:42] tenants the main tenant on the ground
[1:21:44] floor is a restaurant the restaurant is
[1:21:47] going to be owned and operated by the
[1:21:50] nest
[1:21:51] chef and manager they're going to be
[1:21:53] opening a new restaurant into that
[1:21:54] building one of the components that the
[1:21:58] nest features that is a big hit is a
[1:22:00] large outdoor patio that was previously
[1:22:02] used by previous restaurants sliding
[1:22:04] dirty they would like to have a similar
[1:22:07] outdoor space as they believe it really
[1:22:10] energizes the downtown block however all
[1:22:14] of the property out front of the
[1:22:16] building the building is on the property
[1:22:18] line would be city property so we would
[1:22:21] need a license agreement not a revocable
[1:22:23] permit for this patio as it would be a
[1:22:27] permanent structure permanent in the way
[1:22:29] that to remove it would be a burden on
[1:22:32] everyone they're aware that there are
[1:22:34] some utilities underneath if you are
[1:22:35] looking to check the condition of those
[1:22:37] utilities but it would be primarily for
[1:22:40] seating for the restaurant and there was
[1:22:42] a
[1:22:44] sketch in your package and this program
[1:22:48] project is supported by Metroplex who is
[1:22:51] working with them on
[1:23:00] so if for some reason they go out of
[1:23:03] business is this going to still be part
[1:23:05] of the structure of that particular
[1:23:07] restaurant so if you know another
[1:23:09] restaurant came in they would still be
[1:23:11] able to utilize it so this yes
[1:23:13] so the license agreement will not be
[1:23:16] with the restaurant it will be with the
[1:23:17] building owner okay so it'll be with Red
[1:23:19] Burn not with the restaurant but the
[1:23:21] restaurant as long as I'm utilizing it I
[1:23:23] mean this is very similar to The Patio
[1:23:26] before was done with red burn for
[1:23:28] sliding dirty and that business went out
[1:23:31] and this business came in and they
[1:23:33] utilized it so I mean and if we're
[1:23:36] talking about adding to so to speak the assets of downtown it would be the
[1:23:42] Internet it's an addition it's not
[1:23:43] something that I would think is a burden
[1:23:44] it's also on half if you were to look so
[1:23:48] even if uh somehow they were to have to
[1:23:50] split it you know we're one side is a
[1:23:52] different retail on the left side is
[1:23:54] this they could they could do that so I
[1:23:56] from from a flexibility standpoint I
[1:23:59] think
[1:24:00] most likely always want to be a
[1:24:01] restaurant I don't have many other
[1:24:03] businesses that have a front patio like
[1:24:04] this but
[1:24:07] yes
[1:24:08] um cdka I know there's a big bus stop
[1:24:11] right here that's used would they
[1:24:12] relocate their bus stop
[1:24:15] um yeah the bus stop they have taco tdta
[1:24:17] and the bus stop would be I don't know
[1:24:19] about relocated or looking but there is
[1:24:21] a we have a very large bus stop at MVP
[1:24:23] and Veterans Park in a bus stop under
[1:24:25] the bridge at State Street so this bus
[1:24:28] stop was seen as not as critical as
[1:24:32] because we have these two large bus
[1:24:33] stops one in a park and one under the
[1:24:35] bridge but yeah that's that bus stop
[1:24:37] will not for me
[1:24:40] lots of lots of people
[1:24:42] move there so yeah so I think the people
[1:24:46] who read the list might think it might
[1:24:49] be fun a little inconvenience at that
[1:24:50] moment
[1:24:51] so I don't know if we talk about really
[1:24:54] having them up in downtown there's just
[1:24:56] not a lot of bus stops Downtown I don't
[1:24:57] take the bus but I see people taking the
[1:24:59] bus
[1:25:01] um
[1:25:02] and I do want to mention that some of
[1:25:04] you may have gotten an email from a
[1:25:05] downtown business owner regarding the
[1:25:07] construction what was happening seeing a
[1:25:09] lot of
[1:25:10] um debris and things from the
[1:25:12] construction but I want you to know that
[1:25:14] um that this was supposed to come before
[1:25:16] us two weeks but before that happened we
[1:25:18] wanted to make sure that the developer
[1:25:20] was aware of those concerns and was
[1:25:22] addressing them and that did happen so
[1:25:25] um just in case you I I would assume
[1:25:28] that you all have gotten the email but a
[1:25:30] business owner did have concerns so
[1:25:31] before we moved forward with this we
[1:25:33] made sure that those concerns were
[1:25:34] addressed so thanks to Metroplex and to
[1:25:37] Mr Wallen as well for making sure that
[1:25:39] happens
[1:25:41] any other questions regarding this
[1:25:44] I'll second it all is in favor
[1:25:47] um thank you Mr well
[1:25:49] all right the second item on the agenda
[1:25:52] memorandum with uh Capital District
[1:25:54] Transportation Authority for the Bike
[1:25:56] Share program cycle yep
[1:25:59] um so for the past three years the city
[1:26:01] cooperation with the CDT has contributed
[1:26:04] to the operation of the Bike Share
[1:26:05] program it is the Branded bikes that are
[1:26:08] located throughout the city um
[1:26:10] The Bike Share program is uh it's a
[1:26:14] costly program to be able to bring
[1:26:15] affordable you know uh bicycle and use
[1:26:20] to all the urban areas so they've asked
[1:26:23] that all the participating cities which
[1:26:24] have the majority of the bikes
[1:26:26] Schenectady Albany Troy and Saratoga
[1:26:28] have a contribution to the program
[1:26:32] this is a continuation of that it's a
[1:26:35] re-upping of the three-year agreement
[1:26:37] the cost is the same 25 000 a year as a
[1:26:42] benefit we had to put in there because
[1:26:43] not many city employees know about it
[1:26:45] we're going to try to advertise a little
[1:26:46] bit better with Marianne's city
[1:26:48] employees do get an opportunity to use
[1:26:50] the the bikes for free you just have to
[1:26:53] enter in your city email address and it
[1:26:56] allows you to create an account where
[1:26:57] you can utilize the bikes
[1:26:59] the benefit of the city being a
[1:27:01] participant
[1:27:02] so
[1:27:04] any questions
[1:27:06] I'll enter the motion so second all's in
[1:27:10] favor aye third on the agenda award
[1:27:12] debating contracts for the Washington
[1:27:14] Avenue and State Street Empire Trails
[1:27:16] through calendar Industries
[1:27:18] so this is a really great small project
[1:27:21] that we're working on as some of you may
[1:27:24] know several years ago we did a
[1:27:27] what was it called a test project on
[1:27:29] Washington Avenue in The Stockade where
[1:27:31] we introduced a counter flow bike lane
[1:27:33] if anyone's familiar with the Empire
[1:27:36] Trail in the city it goes down Union
[1:27:38] Street but when it gets to the South
[1:27:41] Church area because Washington Avenue is
[1:27:44] one way from state to Union a bicycle
[1:27:47] cannot legally go down that way so the
[1:27:51] bicycle has to go to South Church Street
[1:27:53] onto State Street in front of what was
[1:27:56] the former YMCA and then on to the path
[1:27:58] so this is a long time coming project
[1:28:01] however when we went out there to
[1:28:03] actually Institute the project we
[1:28:05] noticed that the sidewalks at State and
[1:28:09] Washington were not wide enough to
[1:28:12] accommodate bikes if you were to go over
[1:28:15] the bridge draw your attention to the
[1:28:17] county did a project coming from the
[1:28:18] community college up when it got to the
[1:28:20] city border the sidewalks go back down
[1:28:23] to five feet so I didn't want to invest
[1:28:26] money to promote bicycles on Washington
[1:28:29] Avenue and leave this roughly 75-foot
[1:28:32] section that was not really compliant so
[1:28:35] we went out and did design worked with
[1:28:36] the dot and we're going to widen the
[1:28:39] sidewalk to A Accessible width so it's
[1:28:44] going to be right around 10 feet maybe a
[1:28:46] little bit more in certain areas so that
[1:28:47] now come to the city there is a smooth
[1:28:50] transition from bike plane to bike lane
[1:28:52] and then you're going to be able to
[1:28:53] either ride Washington Avenue one way or
[1:28:56] actually use the counterfold White Lane
[1:28:57] and come against traffic it's a little
[1:29:00] unique it will be signed and striking
[1:29:03] but that is the uh the appropriate way
[1:29:05] to do it and that will kind of just help
[1:29:08] our standing with the bike lane in the
[1:29:11] area so it's a it's a very small project
[1:29:13] but I really think it is going to be
[1:29:14] appreciated by everyone that uses the
[1:29:17] Empire Trail
[1:29:21] Mr
[1:29:22] um so it was
[1:29:25] 349 49 000 and it says that it's going
[1:29:28] to be local funds can you just be a
[1:29:30] little bit more specific sure we're
[1:29:32] going to use our borrowed Capital funds
[1:29:33] okay great okay yeah there was a
[1:29:35] misprint in the first one I didn't know
[1:29:37] if you saw a size one but we uh because this is not just a road project
[1:29:44] it's a bike project it's easiest just to
[1:29:46] use our local Capital funds okay not
[1:29:48] just usually we use our chip funding
[1:29:50] when it's just streets
[1:29:52] so that's what we're going to use and we
[1:29:53] have
[1:29:54] um
[1:29:57] was there any input from those so I
[1:29:59] guess there's some Bicycle Club the
[1:30:01] bicycling group that around this being
[1:30:04] you know this
[1:30:07] change or in this Improvement well I
[1:30:11] mean the most vocal that I work with is
[1:30:13] Art uh Clayman as always and this is a
[1:30:17] project that he's been asking about for
[1:30:19] years I'm not aware of any other bicycle
[1:30:22] groups that have come out
[1:30:23] um but our you know this was a I thought
[1:30:26] you were going to talk about the stock
[1:30:27] cable we did the test it was something
[1:30:29] where we thought we were going to get a
[1:30:30] lot of Bush family and it actually went
[1:30:32] really smoothly we've had a lot of
[1:30:34] positive feedback as you know Rich
[1:30:37] nodding his head about it and and so you
[1:30:41] know I think I think what I what I was
[1:30:43] nervous about was I'm luckily that I
[1:30:44] went out there and I observed everything
[1:30:46] in the conditions because I think if I
[1:30:48] had done the bike lane and just paved it
[1:30:50] and striped it and said I'm done and
[1:30:52] then turned that 90 degrees and seeing
[1:30:54] that sidewalk yeah I think I would have
[1:30:56] looked a little bad and I don't I'm not trying to look bad up here I'm
[1:31:00] trying to always look as best as I can
[1:31:02] so this is this is really going to I
[1:31:04] think everyone is really going to
[1:31:05] appreciate it you know all the way
[1:31:07] around and we're working with the county
[1:31:09] on even improving some of the signage so
[1:31:11] that when you get into Schenectady you
[1:31:13] know where to go yeah for the other
[1:31:14] trails and other paths because when you
[1:31:16] come in now as a bicyclist
[1:31:19] we're not we're not doing a lot of
[1:31:21] focused advertising to you it's more of
[1:31:24] that generic you are here you hear these
[1:31:26] things but it's like you know well
[1:31:28] where's the Central Park failed Trail
[1:31:29] connector where's the harbor Trail
[1:31:31] where's The Stockade Trail you know if
[1:31:33] we're not we're not focused on that
[1:31:35] aspect of it and that's one of the
[1:31:36] things that
[1:31:37] working on too thank you any other
[1:31:41] questions I'll move it second all those
[1:31:43] in favor
[1:31:44] aye thank you thank you Mr well
[1:31:47] uh just a reminder of the Metroplex we
[1:31:50] did they are putting in want to put an
[1:31:52] application for the Restore New York
[1:31:54] Grant there was a public hearing that
[1:31:56] held on 912.
[1:31:58] um I think we only had one speaker and
[1:32:00] at this point in time in 10 motion to
[1:32:03] move it forward so that they can
[1:32:04] actually put in their application
[1:32:07] okay
[1:32:12] [Music]
[1:32:13] close in second all the safer all right
[1:32:17] hey the next item on the agenda is it
[1:32:20] starts with me anti-litter action plan
[1:32:22] we have three council members so Patrick
[1:32:24] Toro and palomini and who wants to start
[1:32:27] the discussion I'll start the discussion
[1:32:29] um and this really um I have to say in
[1:32:31] the larger context of what we were just
[1:32:33] talking about in terms of speeding and
[1:32:34] traffic
[1:32:35] behavior and how do we influence
[1:32:38] behavior we also have talked about the
[1:32:40] noise uh the noise issue all of these
[1:32:43] issues that our quality of life issues
[1:32:45] all come back to
[1:32:46] behavioral types of
[1:32:49] um you know how do we get folks to
[1:32:51] really think about their neighbors how
[1:32:52] do we get folks to think about their own
[1:32:53] behavior so I wanted to start out with
[1:32:55] that so obviously all of us have
[1:32:59] expressed and talked about the fact that
[1:33:01] you know we have a littering problem
[1:33:03] within the city and so this is one
[1:33:07] attempt at putting forth some ideas and thank you for sending out the plan
[1:33:11] to all the council people what we're
[1:33:14] doing here is giving you this plan so
[1:33:16] that we can get some um feedback back
[1:33:18] from everyone
[1:33:19] once again this is not a quick fix this
[1:33:23] is not something that will happen
[1:33:24] tomorrow but we wanted to present it to
[1:33:27] folks
[1:33:28] um and see and see what reactions were
[1:33:31] basically there's four areas within this
[1:33:34] plan the first being on education and
[1:33:37] Outreach
[1:33:43] how do we work with adults but you know
[1:33:46] another aspect of this are Partnerships
[1:33:49] so we think about how do we partner with
[1:33:51] the school district how do we partner
[1:33:52] with businesses around trying to think
[1:33:56] about how we get rid of some of the
[1:33:58] litter issues that are around there's an
[1:34:01] infrastructure component there's four
[1:34:03] components education infrastructure
[1:34:06] which in our proposal is really looking
[1:34:08] at equipment trash cans you know other
[1:34:13] types of things like that that would
[1:34:14] have to be a part of what we try to do
[1:34:18] and like with the speeding and the
[1:34:20] traffic issue another piece are laws and
[1:34:24] enforcement of of those laws in terms of
[1:34:28] trying to clean up the city so
[1:34:31] um
[1:34:32] there's a lot of detail in this I hope
[1:34:34] that you might have had a chance to look
[1:34:36] at it it obviously is for a larger
[1:34:38] discussion I'd like to turn it over to
[1:34:40] news tutorial now to talk a little bit
[1:34:42] more about well no I'm sorry I'd like to
[1:34:45] turn it over to Mr Paul many I'm sorry
[1:34:47] to talk a little bit about the why care
[1:34:49] about litter aspect and especially
[1:34:52] because it relates to People's Health
[1:34:54] and and the environment sure certainly
[1:34:57] there's a health and environmental
[1:34:59] component the environmental piece where
[1:35:01] we're throwing stuff out our Windows
[1:35:03] whether it's plastic that leeches into
[1:35:05] the ground and eventually gets into our
[1:35:09] rivers oceans even our groundwater we're
[1:35:12] consuming that with the things that we
[1:35:15] eat and drink we don't know the overall
[1:35:18] impacts because they're my new levels
[1:35:21] but what we do know is over time those
[1:35:24] minute levels add up and we also don't
[1:35:27] know the cross-contaminations with other
[1:35:29] things that we're ingesting into our
[1:35:31] body so so we do know some of these
[1:35:34] things are carcinogenic but
[1:35:37] how they impact our overall health is is
[1:35:40] pretty negative and that adds to all our
[1:35:42] costs whether we're talking about health
[1:35:44] care insurance
[1:35:45] or any of those type of things beyond
[1:35:49] the human toll of you know losing a
[1:35:52] loved one or having someone die at a
[1:35:55] much younger age than they probably
[1:35:56] should have the other aspect of course
[1:36:00] is the environment
[1:36:02] um
[1:36:02] some of that ties together with
[1:36:05] our fish you know the soil quality our
[1:36:10] water quality and just even small things
[1:36:13] when we introduced a straw thing a while
[1:36:16] ago it didn't pass but small things like
[1:36:19] that add up and the the Plastics break
[1:36:23] down into microplastics and that impacts
[1:36:27] our environment pretty significantly we
[1:36:29] see the impacts on the animals and the
[1:36:33] other Wildlife as well as just the
[1:36:36] plants so there is a big toll here with
[1:36:41] littering Beyond just the
[1:36:44] sight and the smell
[1:36:46] and those are all things that we need to
[1:36:49] take into consideration
[1:36:51] and if I could move to Ms detoro to talk
[1:36:54] a little bit about the illegal uh
[1:36:57] the cost of the illegal illegal dumping
[1:37:00] and other litter in the city sure so it
[1:37:03] starts with me I'm very excited about this
[1:37:06] um I do take photos and I do report
[1:37:10] trash on the street multiple areas that
[1:37:14] are multiple that are littered Beyond
[1:37:16] anything I can even pick up so one thing
[1:37:19] that really bothers me is illegal
[1:37:21] dumping
[1:37:23] um I've seen it it's not in the city of
[1:37:25] Schenectady but over by the Jewish
[1:37:27] cemetery behind the cross it's actually
[1:37:29] Rotterdam there's about three different
[1:37:31] dump sites there of
[1:37:33] um plasterboard wood it's just it's just
[1:37:38] horrible to even look at so I I have
[1:37:40] called the town of Rotterdam to report
[1:37:41] that at times but the cost it takes my
[1:37:45] cousins live over at Steinmetz park
[1:37:47] across the street on Lenox Road and
[1:37:49] multiple times they actually see people
[1:37:52] backing their trucks up to the pond and
[1:37:54] putting their construction debris in
[1:37:56] there so and it always has been reported
[1:37:59] but in order for the city to have to
[1:38:01] deal with the cost factor involved in
[1:38:04] this extra Manpower and time going out
[1:38:06] and cleaning up other people's garbage
[1:38:08] and that's something that that we really
[1:38:11] don't want to do so that's another facet
[1:38:14] of this and just going into the
[1:38:16] infrastructure
[1:38:17] um we heard one of our students here
[1:38:18] today talking about trash cans how
[1:38:21] they'd like more trash cans so that's
[1:38:23] all involved in this so it's there's
[1:38:28] science and start a structure with but
[1:38:30] it starts with me it should start with
[1:38:33] everyone
[1:38:34] um
[1:38:35] and talk to your neighbors you know take
[1:38:37] them pick it up just pick it up so
[1:38:39] there's all there's a lot of different
[1:38:41] things that are very
[1:38:43] important to our community so I was
[1:38:46] hoping maybe Mr Farley could share a
[1:38:48] story that he shared once about maybe a
[1:38:52] group of students who brought somewhere
[1:38:54] okay this this this really breaks my
[1:38:56] heart this story and maybe you could
[1:38:58] share that
[1:39:00] so this is uh this is the person time
[1:39:03] ago I was working with a youth group and
[1:39:07] one of the kids in our YouTube Visa love
[1:39:09] to eat sunflower seeds I don't know why
[1:39:11] but he just did but we were constantly
[1:39:13] getting on him around picking up his
[1:39:15] garbage
[1:39:16] um and we took you know we would pick
[1:39:18] our kids throughout the county and we
[1:39:19] went to one of our other kids uh houses
[1:39:21] to pick him up and you know in a pretty
[1:39:23] little neighborhood and he the young man
[1:39:26] was eating his sunflower seeds and he
[1:39:28] threw the wrap around the floor
[1:39:30] um and when he threw the wrapper on the
[1:39:32] floor he picked it up
[1:39:34] and that was something really odd for
[1:39:36] him you know to do without you know
[1:39:38] oh it's time to say Hey you know and I
[1:39:41] asked him why he did that
[1:39:42] because I was like God why'd you pick
[1:39:44] that up you know and he said to me he
[1:39:46] said because this doesn't look like the
[1:39:48] type of place you can throw garbage but
[1:39:50] yet the neighborhood that we picked him
[1:39:51] up from that we dropped him off on you
[1:39:53] but they're garbage here so I think that
[1:39:54] there's something to be said and I
[1:39:56] appreciate you remembering that that's
[1:39:57] something to be said around like you
[1:39:59] know the messaging that we sent to our
[1:40:01] young people about where they live
[1:40:03] um and and it also demonstrates that if
[1:40:06] you make the right structural changes
[1:40:08] then it will shift Behavior thank you
[1:40:10] that's a great story remember that
[1:40:13] so the rest of these pages and it's a
[1:40:16] 10-page document all told really go into
[1:40:19] thoughts and ideas that we had I think
[1:40:23] there's more that could be had there's
[1:40:26] some of these that are
[1:40:27] things that could be implemented uh
[1:40:31] sooner rather than later there are
[1:40:32] things that could that cost money there
[1:40:34] are things that don't cost money so at
[1:40:36] this point
[1:40:38] um you know we just really wanted to
[1:40:40] leave you with all of this again the it
[1:40:42] starts with me I think we'll certainly
[1:40:45] would be lend itself to working with
[1:40:48] youth in terms of having pledges in
[1:40:51] terms of having poster contests in terms
[1:40:53] of you know the of course cleanups like
[1:40:56] we've done at solar and other places
[1:40:58] there's also a section in here however
[1:41:01] that talks about the Partnerships with
[1:41:02] businesses and there's it starts with me
[1:41:05] pledged there where we'd be trying to
[1:41:07] get businesses to think about you know
[1:41:09] having appropriate trash receptacles
[1:41:12] appropriate cigarette butt
[1:41:15] um those those devices that dsic for
[1:41:18] example does put around downtown
[1:41:21] the the infrastructure section has ideas
[1:41:24] on various equipment from ones that are
[1:41:28] individually held like a backpack almost
[1:41:31] it's like a vacuum to you know more you
[1:41:34] know kind of driving apparatus that that
[1:41:37] can be used to help with the with the
[1:41:39] litter so at this point unless
[1:41:42] um Ms detour or Mr Paul anyone add
[1:41:45] anything else to this to what we are
[1:41:47] presenting I think we you know we're
[1:41:50] looking for feedback we're looking for
[1:41:52] your thoughts on when you get a chance
[1:41:54] to look at this if we haven't already
[1:41:55] you have to say that it starts with me
[1:41:57] is already an existing program within
[1:42:00] the city it's just tweaking it and
[1:42:04] putting together a fairly comprehensive
[1:42:06] we're looking at legislative judicial
[1:42:10] executive branch
[1:42:12] pieces tied in with community and
[1:42:17] not-for-profit and education and the
[1:42:20] school district and putting it all
[1:42:22] together to try to get everybody moving
[1:42:25] towards that goal of less trash in the
[1:42:28] streets and improving our neighborhoods
[1:42:34] so
[1:42:35] yeah something Just For Us online a
[1:42:38] couple years ago we passed at an Amanda
[1:42:40] city has a good regards so a letter and
[1:42:44] it was supposed to be enforced by the
[1:42:46] police department we had some issues
[1:42:48] with ticketing process and we were
[1:42:50] supposed to cooperation Council were
[1:42:52] supposed to look at cultural Amanda
[1:42:54] revise the ticketing processary
[1:42:58] and I think because palominium I was on
[1:43:01] that driving force in that
[1:43:03] we are already how different is that to
[1:43:06] what is being presented today and can we
[1:43:09] work with Corporation Council to to look
[1:43:12] at something that was outstanding there
[1:43:13] to a man that ticketing process and RPD
[1:43:16] can go there and issue these uh
[1:43:18] citations so yes you're 100 right what
[1:43:22] happened was
[1:43:24] um Corporation Council at the time
[1:43:26] Mr Golden I was working with the court
[1:43:30] system to create a ticket that was more
[1:43:34] of a summons type thing where it was
[1:43:36] very quick in comparison to a full-blown
[1:43:39] ticket to to give out
[1:43:43] um
[1:43:44] he worked with the court system to try
[1:43:47] to produce this the judges ended up
[1:43:50] throwing these tickets out in large mass
[1:43:54] unfortunately
[1:43:55] I think Mr Colden is aware of this and I
[1:44:01] think he will be working trying to
[1:44:04] figure out some way of moving this
[1:44:06] forward to make it more effective and
[1:44:09] something that the judges won't throw
[1:44:11] out and I think a benefit too is having
[1:44:14] commissioner Devine on staff a former
[1:44:18] judge
[1:44:19] I think that would be beneficial too
[1:44:23] I think that that's something that we
[1:44:24] need to look at because that's something
[1:44:25] I'm going to book our books already so
[1:44:28] we should work um amending it and
[1:44:30] enforcing it rather than adding more on
[1:44:32] top of it and this might complement that
[1:44:35] we already have there so I think we
[1:44:37] don't want to just recreate more at the
[1:44:39] same time when we just need to have a
[1:44:41] mystical ninjas follow up on that and
[1:44:43] see what is needed
[1:44:46] to move forward with that page eight I
[1:44:49] think is where um that something similar
[1:44:52] to that is addressed on a couple of
[1:44:53] bullet points on page eight of our of
[1:44:55] our
[1:44:57] proposal so I don't know if it's exactly
[1:44:59] the same as what you had talked about
[1:45:01] previously yeah um
[1:45:04] back and forth about cooperation Council
[1:45:06] on the police department in terms of how
[1:45:08] we can able to address that and this was
[1:45:10] a couple years ago and nothing ever
[1:45:12] happened to the end and the um the other
[1:45:16] aspect though is not really creating
[1:45:19] another enforcement piece it's just all
[1:45:22] different components of how we can
[1:45:24] address litter and try to get people to
[1:45:27] change their behavior yes there's a
[1:45:29] section that is enforcement and to your
[1:45:32] point with that ticket
[1:45:34] process that's kind of what's in here
[1:45:37] but there's some other things like are
[1:45:40] we charging too much for a ticket or not
[1:45:43] enough you know those are things that we
[1:45:45] kind of need to look at to miss the
[1:45:48] Toro's point of the illegal dumping
[1:45:51] um you know it's something that maybe we
[1:45:53] want to look at the fine for
[1:45:57] make it a
[1:46:00] more costly to do those kind of things
[1:46:02] but maybe it's already too expensive so
[1:46:05] we need to look at those things and and
[1:46:07] try to address them
[1:46:10] so um I know that this it starts with me with
[1:46:15] something that the mayor implemented
[1:46:16] several years to get started this
[1:46:17] several years ago so as Mr palamine says
[1:46:20] this is is something that is organ
[1:46:22] resistance
[1:46:24] um I didn't so I have a question
[1:46:27] I know that we uh Mr O'Hearn Charlie
[1:46:30] O'Hearn has been the person who's been
[1:46:32] kind of take care of the litter as a
[1:46:34] one-man the volunteers so I wanted to
[1:46:37] know is is there some input from him in
[1:46:40] here
[1:46:41] um and also have the consultant Mr
[1:46:44] um Mr lafon regarding this and
[1:46:47] additionally I don't know if you want to
[1:46:48] speak to the whole garbage part of it um
[1:46:50] or if you're ready for that discussion
[1:46:52] and how it's mentioned in here that how
[1:46:54] garbage that people don't properly
[1:46:58] um
[1:46:58] tie up and all that adds to the litter
[1:47:01] but so I just want to make sure that the
[1:47:04] with whatever work that
[1:47:06] being done here is also making sure that
[1:47:09] this works in the plants that the city
[1:47:11] has underway are going to be a part of
[1:47:13] that process and we have um had meetings
[1:47:17] that Mr
[1:47:19] turn was a part of this and I actually
[1:47:22] can't speak to the whether Mr Lafond has
[1:47:25] been I don't think that that we have
[1:47:27] talked to Ms still upon so that's a good point
[1:47:34] I think so in here is a part about
[1:47:39] our trash
[1:47:42] people who throw the bags on you know
[1:47:45] because the bags aren't tied proper and
[1:47:47] just making sure that that the city
[1:47:49] staff cleans up the messes that they
[1:47:51] make so that's all incorporated into
[1:47:53] here as well so I do hear that complaint
[1:47:56] a lot from people but again their job is Non-Stop and it's moving so yeah and
[1:48:04] to that point if we're going to as this
[1:48:08] moves along I think that the city staff
[1:48:09] is another we should be speaking to
[1:48:11] directly because there aren't people on
[1:48:12] the ground every day picking up trash
[1:48:14] when we decided to install additional
[1:48:17] trash cans through um to show love where
[1:48:19] you live initiative I actually met with
[1:48:21] them asked them about the size the
[1:48:22] weight all of that and also to get their
[1:48:25] input and also let them know that
[1:48:27] there's going to be more trash cans for
[1:48:28] you to pick up right you know because
[1:48:30] that was important so I I think the
[1:48:31] people who are do this work every single
[1:48:34] day should not only be informed but
[1:48:37] included making sure that they you know
[1:48:40] that the plan is a plan that works for
[1:48:42] everybody that's a really good point
[1:48:44] absolutely
[1:48:51] the
[1:48:53] you know it seems simple to just get
[1:48:54] people to do the basic things but it's a
[1:48:57] far more complex
[1:49:00] and it's much like the speeding it's how
[1:49:03] do you educate people how do you get a
[1:49:06] shift in the social Norm where people
[1:49:09] modify their behavior a little bit so I
[1:49:12] think this is all good
[1:49:14] it's an ongoing process
[1:49:17] you can look to continue to have
[1:49:19] discussions how do we implement it how
[1:49:21] do we actually get people to play by the
[1:49:23] rules
[1:49:25] any further discussion I guess at this
[1:49:28] point I would just ask that if folks
[1:49:29] would take a look at it um and give us
[1:49:32] some feedback and I think your comments
[1:49:35] in terms of obviously
[1:49:36] um
[1:49:38] talking to other folks boots on the
[1:49:40] ground uh those are those are very good
[1:49:42] suggestions
[1:49:44] Mr Farley yeah I would just add that
[1:49:46] what I really like about Laura Sawyer is
[1:49:48] that there's different components on
[1:49:49] here so and really the components can
[1:49:52] operate independently if need be right
[1:49:56] so like if we like as far as law
[1:49:57] enforcement if there's some other
[1:49:59] considerations that have to be made and
[1:50:01] you know there might be some red tape
[1:50:02] there you know there's still that
[1:50:04] educational component there's still
[1:50:05] there's you know there's some signage
[1:50:07] and things that can you know kind of
[1:50:09] lend itself up so they you know work
[1:50:12] interopectively that way but they can
[1:50:13] operate independently as we problem
[1:50:15] shoot through a
[1:50:17] so I appreciated that
[1:50:19] any further discussion
[1:50:22] okay thank you for bringing that forward
[1:50:25] the last four items on the agenda are
[1:50:28] for property sales so for that reason we
[1:50:31] would go into the executive session in
[1:50:33] the same motion uh make the questions go
[1:50:35] to Executive questions thank you all in
[1:50:37] favor aye so the public will have to
[1:50:40] leave
[1:50:46] thank you