[2:48] it is now 601 uh we'll call our
Dickinson County Board of supervisor a
[2:54] regular meeting of September the 27th to
order I will acknowledge that all five
[2:59] board members are present our County
Administrator uh Mr Martin is here our
[3:05] clerk Teresa Lyle our Economic
Development Dana Cronkite and uh Adam
[3:11] Mullins will be doing the live feed on
the internet
[3:17] our attorney will Sturgill has been tied
up in a
[3:22] court case and he will possibly be
joining us by phone a little bit later
[3:28] first thing is
um prayer and Mr Barton would you care
[3:33] to lead us in prayer Ms bowerheads most
counting gracious Heavenly Father Lord
[3:37] we come before you once again this
evening Lord and Lord we're just asking
[3:40] for wisdom Lord for our supervisors as
they make decisions to lead our County
[3:45] Lord dear Lord we have so much to be
thankful for Lord we're thankful for the
[3:48] good day today Lord the groundbreaking
that we had for the Food City project
[3:52] Lord that's been worked on for so long
Lord you pray for our family our
[3:56] citizens Lord all the sicknesses out
there Lord the coveted cases Lord which
[4:00] pray that you would provide healing for
us Lord and be with us we pray it's all
[4:04] these things we ask in Jesus name amen
amen and if we will all stand and Mr
[4:09] Peters lead us in the pledge
[4:13] foreign
[4:28] [Music]
[4:35] item number two on our agenda is the
approval of the minutes from our public
[4:40] hearing on August 23rd and our regular
meeting also on August 23rd
[4:46] are there any discussions Corrections or
additions to those minutes
[4:56] Madam chair if no one has any concerns
I'd make a motion we approve both
[5:01] minutes okay
and a second
[5:07] we have a move
through the minutes of last month's
[5:12] meeting our in favor please say aye aye
as well any opposed item number three
[5:18] approval of the agenda are there any we
have one addition I see and are there
[5:24] any other additions to come before
Mr Barton do we need to add this thing
[5:30] from Cumberland waste that's already I
think on the image period we can add
[5:33] that in we just start feels let me speak
on that when we do our deals or if you
[5:37] like it in a separate event okay yeah
last time
[5:40] okay okay if it's okay with everybody
the
[5:44] um the agenda amendment is they come on
Plateau planning district commission
[5:50] resolution can that be added into the
new business
[5:55] uh under B and have it be too
[6:05] either one I don't care whatever
[6:10] either way well we'll just make it the
last one on the list and make it to item
[6:15] number
um eight and it will be item I
[6:20] will follow the transfer station
schedule
[6:25] and it will be the cameraman Plateau yes
the one that was in our packet to be
[6:32] added
okay any other
[6:38] motion and a second please
[6:47] I'll second it Madam chair
okay we have a move in second to approve
[6:52] the agenda with one addition uh all in
favor please say aye as well any opposed
[6:58] okay moving on to item number four the
consent agenda
[7:05] are there any comments discussions
questions or Mr Barton would you like to
[7:09] give an explanation with that I would
thank you madam chair on the desk before
[7:14] you there's a letter that just came in
the mail today from Cumberland Plateau
[7:17] it's an additional Bill that'll have to
be paid this month for five thousand one
[7:22] forty five eighteen and this is for the
annual of Virginia DEQ Financial
[7:27] Assurance for the Dickinson County
transfer station Mr Peters uh you
[7:31] probably share more about it since you
are
[7:34] remember on the community yeah so so
what this is is we have to keep funds
[7:40] on deposit to cover in case we had to
close down the transfer stations
[7:46] and this year there was an increase of
about nineteen thousand dollars
[7:53] so we're part of an authority with two
other counties
[7:58] they're taking the remainder of some
funds they had left over
[8:02] and adding that to it so then our
contribution because it's split equally
[8:06] it's an administrative cost each of the
counties has to pay
[8:10] and that that's um
5144 one to four 145 and 18 cents are
[8:17] laughed at that thank you Mr Peterson
looking at the letter it shows the
[8:21] authority paid three thousand seven
eighty nine out of your balance and
[8:23] looks like the each of the Three
Counties is paying the 51.45-18 so
[8:27] that's the only addition we had as far
as with the bills it just came today so
[8:33] playing attend any other questions
everyone has of course the Gin is a
[8:37] little bit different layout we have the
consent agenda so all these items the
[8:40] approval of expenditures County
administrators report the drug core
[8:43] Community work program report the animal
control report and the fire rescue
[8:47] report would all be approved together uh
with one motion and the new reports that
[8:52] are in there from drug court animal
control and fire rescue we will have
[8:56] more information on those next year next
month there's some items that we would
[9:00] like to have that they're going to be
tracking and providing
[9:02] in future months so any feedback you all
have on those reports or anything else
[9:07] you'd like to see on them please let me
know and I'll make sure it gets included
[9:09] so
there's also as we move along some
[9:12] additional reports that'll be added to
this from other departments as we move
[9:15] along so
[9:18] I make a motion that we approve all of
the
[9:21] a b c d e
including the
[9:26] 5145-18 to be paid also
[9:33] okay thank you and uh a second for that
[9:39] did we approve the agenda
yeah we did okay you made the motion
[9:44] yeah okay well so we added that one the
revolution yeah so uh at least where I
[9:52] think we are we're still approving the
agenda
[9:55] we're not she's I think Miss Wilson
[10:05] the items in this
[10:27] no problem
the way I understand a consent agenda
[10:32] they're all in there for our knowledge
or our records and once they're approved
[10:36] or whatever they become public records
that anybody can see them but we vote on
[10:40] them as a group in the consent
consistency yes and if there was a
[10:45] concern that you've identified you
should bring it up right recurring
[10:48] non-controversial items yeah
[10:53] [Music]
uh expenditures this is the expenditures
[10:58] in the green sheets that we have to go
over yeah yeah and I've made a motion
[11:03] for the extra
5145 18 that we need to pay yes okay we
[11:08] have a motion on the floor and a second
to approve the consent agenda a through
[11:13] e with the additional expense item 5145
to be paid do uh all in favor please say
[11:21] aye
aye as well any opposed okay moving on
[11:25] to item number five public comment
our telephone number is
[11:34] 276-333-0357 for anyone who would like
to call in there is a three-minute time
[11:40] to speak if you call in or if you are in
person and would like to speak
[11:46] so floor is open for any public comment
I do think everyone that has come this
[11:52] is probably one of the bigger crowds
that we've had in a while to attend a
[11:55] board meeting I do think all of you all
for coming whether you're on the agenda
[12:00] to speak or have a program or just come
out to be with us I do thank you so if
[12:06] there's anybody for a public comment the
floor is open
[12:23] it's warmer yeah
I know I'm about ready to shaved my
[12:27] jacket
don't worry start freeze this today
[12:40] there we go
I think it's just right
[12:46] I didn't see you all back there how are
you all
[12:49] right
[12:55] no comment
s
[13:02] okay it always concerns me you know I'll
get on Facebook sometimes and read and
[13:08] people just yeah yeah and then I say why
don't you come out to the here why don't
[13:13] you come out to our meetings it is fresh
your opinion I'd like to hear your
[13:16] opinion I've got a comment okay and I I
sat at last meeting but you guys weren't
[13:22] there
but our last me I pointed this out and I
[13:26] want to thank you guys again because on
the first day of that flooding we had
[13:30] you guys were out there all day and it
wasn't even in your area of coverage and
[13:34] I I thank you for that
um
[13:44] okay
are we ready to entertain a motion to
[13:48] close public hearing and move on yes and
I would just like to let everyone know
[13:53] that I am having a small business town
hall meeting on October the 12th at 6 PM
[13:58] I'm in this room so anyone that has a
small business entrepreneur that would
[14:05] like to come and attend it would be kind
of the meet and greet so that I can meet
[14:08] meet folks and be able to hear about
your business and maybe some needs for
[14:13] the community and share some learning
opportunities that I have been able to
[14:18] secure I'm for the county for free I
would love for folks to come out I did
[14:23] leave some flyers in the back so please
feel free to take those and share with
[14:27] us with any small business owners state
where are we going to advertise that
[14:31] what time is it 6 p.m we have it on
Facebook right now and she's going out
[14:36] to finish the community bulletin boards
and yeah we've notified the newspaper Mr
[14:42] Lester so
our website too it's on our website
[14:47] apparently as usual
[14:52] okay
thank you
[14:57] don't mention about the bedrooms there
too
[15:07] we're gonna have a Veterans Day
breakfast celebration on November the
[15:11] 10th at 9 00 a.m that will be held here
in this building
[15:16] um we'll have more information
but those suppliers are also in the back
[15:21] of the room so please feel free to take
those and share I've been in contact
[15:25] with the vice principal at Ridgeview and
have asked if maybe if some of the beta
[15:30] of students or some of those students
that need that service would be a chance
[15:36] that we're still working out the details
of that but we would love to have all
[15:39] the veterans and the community come
and celebrate that day with us yes
[15:44] thank you
before you close out the public
[15:48] health
sure yeah just step forward and state
[15:51] your name Dana do you want to tell them
about the shooting bears
[15:56] Road 90 do you know about that
yes on thank you Miss Willis on this
[16:02] upcoming Friday of September 30th at 11
o'clock at the clinchco fire department
[16:09] we're going to be meeting there because
there's going to be a highway dedication
[16:12] for a shifting Lane that actually
change the designation of that highway
[16:19] it's going to be the Shifty Powers staff
sergeant Shifty Powers Memorial Highway
[16:24] on that and they're going to hold a
dedication there Vito's going to be
[16:27] there the family will be there and it'll
be you know to honor him and everything
[16:31] that he does so please come out join us
for that as well
[16:37] okay my name is Roy Harris I'm chief of
Sandy Ridge Volunteer Fire Department
[16:42] I wasn't able to choose the uh to attend
the arbor meeting that you all had the
[16:47] workshop so I just wanted to know if
there's another one scheduled or what
[16:53] may have come out of the the previous
one right and on the previous Workshop
[16:58] we don't have another one scheduled yet
we will be scheduling one and we did
[17:03] consider all the requests I think for my
memory I don't have my stuff with me but
[17:07] you had a couple in one for a truck and
one for something else
[17:11] but at this time I don't think that we
approved anything on Sandy Ridge right
[17:16] now okay well the most important would
be the SCBA is because we still haven't
[17:20] heard anything from FEMA right on the
grant that we sent in
[17:25] and um so that's something that you know
I'll be checking on right I just I just
[17:31] want to touch base with you and see if
there was any if you had an idea when
[17:34] you might be having another one right
now let's just says we get one scheduled
[17:37] so we don't have anything on the books
right now though okay thank you correct
[17:41] me if I'm wrong so thank you
your requests are still there
[17:46] right it's because they're not approved
yet doesn't mean they may not get
[17:50] approved later right we've we're
carrying things on those books because
[17:55] we we've got a while to spend this money
right and we got to be careful that we
[18:01] don't just
use it all up in case something happens
[18:05] that's more critical or and generally
speaking the fire departments is one of
[18:10] those areas where we have more critical
things right and you know I can also
[18:14] tell you straight off that Wise County
is not going to try to contribute
[18:18] anything to that effort as far as the
cbas go
[18:23] because we're not located in Wise County
so I have a lawyer checking in on that
[18:28] to see what the legal part of it is that
I might be able to pursue
[18:32] of actually putting in a substation in
Watts County
[18:36] then they can't say we're not located in
Wise County
[18:40] thank you all thank you thank you thank
you
[18:47] Colleen
[18:53] clothes
[18:57] I'll make a motion that will close the
public comment Madam chair
[19:02] okay a second
chicken
[19:06] okay we have a moving second on the
floor to close public comment all in
[19:11] favor please say aye aye aye as well in
your pose okay
[19:15] down to item number six which is so we
have three people here for our meetings
[19:23] um the first one is Rachel Patton with
Southwest Virginia Workforce Development
[19:28] board
[19:31] good evening thank you all for having me
here tonight
[19:35] um as you all are aware uh last year
Dickinson County awarded the Southwest
[19:40] Virginia Workforce Development board
some arpa funding to cover a number of
[19:46] initiatives I know that you've talked to
some of my co-workers this summer about
[19:50] the youth initiative and the cars to
work program I'm here tonight to talk
[19:54] about the small business empowerment
expansion grant you all gave us fifty
[19:59] thousand dollars uh to uh administer
that Grant in Dickinson County and it's
[20:05] modeled after another initiative that we
have in a couple of other counties that
[20:09] we serve with Foundation funding and the
foundation only serves those two
[20:14] counties and we've long looked for a way
to replicate that program in other
[20:18] counties because it's been so successful
and so this the SB program as we call it
[20:24] focuses on small existing businesses
because in my role as Director of
[20:29] Business Services as I'm working with
businesses that's more of the things
[20:32] that I was repeatingly repeatedly
hearing from small businesses is listen
[20:36] there's a lot of funding out there to
help with startups and there's a lot of
[20:39] funding out there to help with the big
guys when they go to expand but I've had
[20:42] my small business here you know for five
years for three years for 10 years and I
[20:47] could bring another product or service I
could hire someone I could expand my
[20:51] business if there was a little bit of
funding and so that's how we developed
[20:55] the SB initiative and so in Dickinson
County we had fifty thousand dollars
[21:01] um to provide assistance to small
businesses and so what we did is we
[21:06] worked with the Dickinson County Chamber
of Commerce and uh Rita Sarat we set up
[21:11] our application process like I said our
definition of small business was a
[21:16] business located in Dickinson County
that was an existing business with 50 or
[21:20] fewer employees
and we opened up the application process
[21:24] in October November of last year we had
13 applicants for that funding we were
[21:31] able to provide seven Awards there were
four businesses that received the entire
[21:36] ten thousand dollars and there were
three businesses that got partial Awards
[21:40] so we tried to stretch that funding as
far as we could to help as many
[21:44] businesses as we could and so when I say
expansion there's a number of things
[21:49] that that funding can be used for it can
be used for equipment purchases it can
[21:53] be used for technical assistance types
of things or capacity building so think
[21:58] marketing HR accounting practices you
know purchasing a piece of equipment to
[22:04] add a new product or service and so some
of the things that we did we helped an
[22:10] accounting firm purchase a tax software
and equipment to be able to expand their
[22:16] services to provide Tax Services to
businesses and individuals in Dickinson
[22:20] County so that's a new service that you
know if you're going to live in
[22:24] Dickinson County or have a business in
Dickinson County you need to have access
[22:27] to we helped another business
be able to purchase equipment a health
[22:33] and wellness business purchase equipment
to expand their facilities to to include
[22:40] occupational therapy so it's my
understanding are they currently done
[22:44] Physical Therapy but for occupational
therapy folks were having to travel
[22:48] outside of the outside of the the county
and so now those Services they're
[22:53] currently working to hire that position
but they're going to be able to offer
[22:57] those Services here in Dickinson County
we helped a couple of businesses be able
[23:03] to purchase QuickBooks
software and and the things that they
[23:08] need to use to be able to manage the
accounting for their business because we
[23:12] know that to be able to to scale a
business you know sometimes I find that
[23:17] small businesses are you know using
notebooks or Excel sheets to be able to
[23:21] do accounting when you start hiring
folks and having to do payroll you
[23:26] really need to have QuickBooks in place
to be able to to manage that we've also
[23:32] helped with a couple of other equipment
purchases a loader for a Logging company
[23:36] that was going to increase production
and allow them to hire additional
[23:40] additional people
so I just wanted to come tonight to just
[23:45] express my things to you all for
providing that funding the businesses
[23:50] that I have talked to have asked that
I've expressed their gratitude they were
[23:57] as founded and just honored that you all
recognized how much that their
[24:02] contribution meant to Dickinson County
and were able to provide some funding
[24:06] for them to provide more products and
services and jobs in Dickinson County
[24:11] I'd like to also think Rita Surat with
the Dickinson County Chamber of Commerce
[24:15] one of the requirements that we have for
the grant is that if you are awarded we
[24:20] ask that you join the digital Chamber of
Commerce simply because that we think
[24:25] that helps you get connected with a
network of other small businesses that
[24:29] can help you and also we know that Rita
is a terrific resource for helping UK
[24:34] get connected to other grants and to
help your business grow and so but she's
[24:39] been a tremendous partner in this as
well
[24:41] and I guess lastly I just want to add
that I just appreciate your all Support
[24:46] over the years I've been with the
Workforce Development for nearly a
[24:51] decade and I cannot think of an instance
when we have ever approached Dickinson
[24:56] County with a project or an initiative
or an idea that you all have not jumped
[25:01] on board and been eager participants in
and we've been able to do some great
[25:06] work in Dickinson County because of that
and so we just really appreciate your
[25:11] support of our efforts in the region and
in Dickinson County and um you know look
[25:16] forward to seeing what else we can do to
help Dickinson County be successful we
[25:21] do our best work in the counties that
partner with us as closely as Dickinson
[25:27] County does
so I'd be glad if you all have any
[25:31] questions that I can answer
I have one sure
[25:35] um
[25:38] I am very happy and I think it's a great
investment in which the work you guys
[25:44] are doing is awesome but what I was
going to ask is
[25:47] are we collecting any data on
how many people are being employed and
[25:52] stuff like that because it might be good
metrics for you to have that'd be good
[25:57] to justify
other things coming down the road
[26:00] because there's other funding agencies
that are involved in this community
[26:04] we're in four counties that we might be
able to apply for for other things yes
[26:10] so we actually do return on investment
for this typically I allow them a year
[26:15] out and to be able to kind of start
measuring some of those metrics so I'll
[26:18] be approaching them next year and asking
for those metrics like what was your
[26:22] call savings
um you know where we've increased
[26:25] efficiency or built capacity in areas
how many employees how many jobs does
[26:29] this retainer add how did your sales
increase and see if we can measure some
[26:34] of those things we will be gathering
that data and we'll be glad to share
[26:38] that back with you all and you know to
see if that can be helpful in bringing
[26:42] additional funding to Dickinson County
for small businesses
[26:49] you said you awarded seven is that
correct
[26:53] did they did they all get the same
amount of money or is different no there
[26:58] were four that got the total ten
thousand dollar award
[27:01] um you know based on the things that
they asked for and then we did three
[27:05] partial Awards
um to try to stretch the funding as far
[27:08] as we could so you have used all that
fifty thousand dollars we have about
[27:12] five thousand dollars left that's
encumbered but not spent out I'm working
[27:16] with the the last few businesses to get
those things those items purchased and
[27:20] get that spent out we're just something
that I don't know if they uh the marina
[27:25] down here has uh I have been down there
two or three times and I'm trying
[27:30] because I see it on the vceter board
they have applied for a C Grant uh which
[27:36] is a ten thousand dollars I think unless
they lower it down some because I'm
[27:40] getting so many requests but I assume
they didn't apply for that they had been
[27:45] granted a permit to sell food
so that is a good for the marina we you
[27:52] know we need to really stress the marine
and the John Flanagan Dam because that
[27:57] that sound Marina within Seven Counties
I guess so I would be glad to reach out
[28:02] to them and see if there's ways that I
can get them connected I wish you could
[28:06] help them if you can it's Sarah and
Michael o'quian that are running the
[28:10] marina and they're really trying they
put everything they have into that
[28:14] Marina they sold their homes they're
living in a camper and uh I would really
[28:20] like to see it Prosper I mean I think
they had last time I was down there had
[28:24] 50 uh boats that were moored there for
the summer and they can do as high as
[28:29] 96. I believe it is but uh they they
really need finally I believe in
[28:36] November they will be awarded the VC to
ten thousand dollar Grant which will
[28:40] help them do because they need a pump a
uh dump station and then a way to pump
[28:47] it out so uh uh if you could reach out
to them and see if you could offer them
[28:52] any help okay happy I mean more than
happy today that's Michael and Sarah
[28:57] Oakman
[29:05] talk about the ways that we can work
together and I will also get the
[29:09] information I do I've also been out to
the marina and make those votes so maybe
[29:13] we can do that together I would I would
like that you have actually been on my
[29:17] list to get connected with so I was
hoping we could exchange information
[29:21] tonight
great great
[29:26] oh well
um again I thank you all for your
[29:29] partnership and for your creativity and
innovation
[29:33] you all have made a great partner and we
look forward to seeing what else we can
[29:37] do in Dickinson County thank you thank
you thank you for coming appreciate that
[29:41] and I'm glad our board voted last year
uh had a little bit of struggle getting
[29:46] it to go through and stuff but I'm glad
that our board helped that so we could
[29:51] help our businesses and the other grants
help children and people to get to work
[29:56] and all that I I appreciate you all
working for our County
[30:03] okay the second person on the list is
James Markham Southwest Regional
[30:08] Recreation authority
[30:14] foreign
[30:20] Jack McClanahan
assistant director of spearhead trails
[30:26] I believe you most of you know the folks
with me Melissa Rose is our executive
[30:32] director
Joe Blevins is our project manager
[30:36] we're here to bring you up to date as
best we can on the things that's been
[30:40] going on with Spearhead
we recently had the official opening of
[30:45] our Sportsman's complex complex in
snowball holler
[30:49] he's well attended
we had delegate loftner
[30:53] and senator hackworth
people from all over the region
[30:57] including a delegation from Lee County
if you all haven't had an opportunity
[31:04] to go up to see the Sportsman's complex
so I certainly invite you to do so
[31:09] is changing all the time
for the better
[31:14] we're very very proud of it
it's something it's increasingly drawing
[31:19] people from throughout the region
like about two months ago
[31:26] we had a young man
from Bluefield
[31:31] who had been a three-time state champion
help me out Joe what was he shooting
[31:37] trap shooting and keep them all straight
first time he did it
[31:44] he shot 198 out of 200.
I don't know what the second time was
[31:50] third time
199 out of 200. oh good shot he just
[31:56] went
to the Nationals Indiana
[32:01] amen second
we sponsored him young man I think now
[32:06] has turned 15.
it's remarkable what talent that we have
[32:13] in our own area
and no matter where a person falls on
[32:18] the Second Amendment
I think it is wonderful to have a place
[32:24] dedicated
that is safely managed
[32:30] and in a good area where it's not going
to be obtrusive to anyone the noise any
[32:35] of that
but I'm going to get Melissa and Joe
[32:40] bring you up to speed on other aspects
that we're working on in the area
[32:47] foreign
Melissa thanks for having us um one
[32:52] thing I'd like to mention is that we are
in the running for a big Grant to finish
[32:57] that up there I think we should know
something maybe within the next couple
[33:01] weeks that would allow us to everybody
that comes up there and I know Josh and
[33:05] Ron have have shot up there
um says it's it's a diamond in the rough
[33:10] and that we just lack that little two
percent which is where we need to be and
[33:13] hopefully that Grant will let us get
golf carts finish putting in the
[33:16] shooting stations we need we're doing uh
we started on
[33:21] what is it called
uh shooting matches I have to think I
[33:25] don't know all these terms I'm learning
um so it's a lot that we have going on
[33:29] up there uh the Andy Rose if you are
familiar with a d he has come to work
[33:34] with us a great asset
so I encourage everybody to reach out to
[33:38] Andy he's helping with events and he's
managing the facility up there Andy has
[33:42] done great we've been working with
running in prison we've recently worked
[33:46] and been approved with camp 18.
uh they are going to provide us a
[33:50] spearhead crew five days a week so
that's going to be tremendous for us two
[33:54] of those days I think at least one maybe
two will be spent at the Sportsman
[33:59] complex helping us in and finalize
everything up there the other three they
[34:02] can even go on the trails with us
so that's another thing that we we want
[34:06] to talk about update you on the Trails
um I'll let Joe kind of tell you a
[34:10] little bit about our meeting with uh
Joey Mullins the other day
[34:16] we met uh had a meeting with joy and
there's a couple proposals that they're
[34:22] working on for ATVs and stuff uh
we talked about some additional roads
[34:28] done in the hayside area
I think some of those will go through
[34:31] real easy uh
they've been talk about some other
[34:37] routes around that he's trying to work
with and get speed limits and stuff with
[34:44] to try to get some of those
yeah and I think um if I may Madam chair
[34:50] I think like Sand Lake Area because it's
a 35 all the way through there down to
[34:56] Lazarus Branch it's Lazarus branch is in
it they get their open
[35:01] the one I mentioned briefly to you
before we started tonight
[35:05] the other idea the mayor had down there
was
[35:09] an alternate trail that went that
bypassed some of that that maybe it's
[35:13] possible to work with through a
right-of-way to take it up to those two
[35:17] places they want they want to kind of
get up to the old VFW and the old uh and
[35:23] Martha's Place because they're looking
at putting some businesses in there
[35:26] possibly a hotel and a
another business
[35:30] Larry actually sent us a map of The
Proposal of those trails and Joe's going
[35:35] to map those on onyx to see the
landowners to kind of see where that
[35:38] would go I understand so we've got that
one and then we're working on the one
[35:43] with um where we lost the Federal Branch
down into town yeah we're working with
[35:48] um Johnny villager with the jail we're
going to go to that board meeting about
[35:53] an alternative route that will go on the
outskirts of that property from the
[35:56] Kiwanis Park down in the tank
so we're looking at a couple options
[36:00] that and we had a good discussion with
Larry last week good yes why to put a
[36:05] plug in and then also
I'd love to see something in Clintwood
[36:10] you know we eventually have trail
running through here and we've got
[36:14] there's been talk I know and
but one thing that we would like to do
[36:19] is um
we've got we've got a lot of people
[36:22] that's approached approached us with
projects but what we would like to do I
[36:25] think a lot of people think of spearhead
they just think only of trails of the
[36:29] ATVs but I I don't know how many of you
all know but we've got we've purchased
[36:33] the covert Home Center
uh we're doing a soft opening this
[36:36] weekend of the ash room we have an ax
Boeing facility that we're opening over
[36:40] there rock climbing wall uh JMU we've
worked with them in Harrisonburg at the
[36:45] University they're giving us tons of
stuff they gave us basketball goals
[36:49] bicycles anything recreation office
equipment they've donated we took four
[36:54] trailers and have went to get the free
stuff they're giving us and it's
[36:58] donating that to help us I don't know
what their plans are or anything and I'm
[37:03] not trying to interfere with it but I
know like the town
[37:07] we're going to put a splash pad up here
the town's also planning on putting some
[37:14] other recreational stuff there I don't
know what else if there's any needs um
[37:18] his name is Mark uh kalopy and he says
if there's any needs that we have just
[37:23] to let him know and he'll look for stuff
because they're always redoing the dorms
[37:26] and they like their culinary programs
they had plates and you name it they had
[37:31] it up there we got four vending machines
that we're going to be able to use at
[37:34] our facilities so that that's been a
good relationship but what we want to do
[37:38] is try to get our name out there to let
people know where are more than the
[37:41] trails so we would like to have and we
want your guidance On This Town Hall
[37:45] meetings kind of like what you're
talking about to go we've talked about
[37:49] going to each Community or do we have
one as a whole
[37:52] and kind of educate people as to what we
are
[37:56] and and maybe get some more buy-in
because you know we're at the we're at
[38:00] the the discretion of the landowner
whether they let us use that or not
[38:03] because we don't purchase the property
no I understand we provide liability
[38:07] no we don't purchase the property what
about um
[38:11] on Navidad issue for putting ATVs on the
roadways
[38:17] what has been
the feedback you gotten from VDOT is it
[38:21] pretty much
only 35 and Below areas or is that they
[38:25] give any guidelines that they're looking
at right now that's what it is yeah they
[38:31] are looking to change some of that into
stipulations on
[38:36] ATV or Brook roads one of the things
that that is the main thing and you
[38:41] brought it up is in order for a road
really to be looked at right now it
[38:44] needs to have Trail access
it needs to make sense ens is perfect
[38:48] they sell our permits they they have
access to the campgrounds so that that
[38:52] would be perfect to have that access all
the way out to there it makes sense yeah
[38:56] yeah so it's things like that that we
see that make sense together they want
[39:00] to ride their four-wheeler to go get
groceries and whatever and that would
[39:04] open up a couple right facilities so so
we want to to go and you know initially
[39:09] without each town so that each Community
felt involved or but we want your
[39:14] guidance what what do you all suggest
the other thing I would say is Rhonda
[39:17] briefly a minute ago mentioned the
marina it would be as that progresses it
[39:25] would be good to be able to reach that
somehow
[39:28] for uh you work with the core there and
that's going to be difficult but I I
[39:33] certainly I you know I wanted to contact
you and and talk about I went up
[39:39] yesterday to
I went up to look at where the
[39:44] above the greenway football field where
the strip job is where they practice of
[39:49] course they had it blocked there's a
gate there I could act difficult to turn
[39:53] around but nevertheless uh
I I'm quite I I understand that you want
[40:00] to that you're more than ATVs but right
now they're very popular and and I'm
[40:06] very glad that hayside has what they
have and they have a good good trail I I
[40:11] would
like to see something in the Clinton
[40:14] area that would draw in some ATVs uh
I've been up to the dicks and Dixon uh
[40:21] Johnny Dixon property and uh it is a
fantastic and I enjoy it and uh put my
[40:30] my nephews love to shoot skeet shooting
and so forth but they've been down to
[40:34] Mike's place and then okay Jacob's been
Hammers and ski shoes as well so is
[40:40] there have you ever looked into the
birth knob is that something you could
[40:43] never could get an ATV trail to Birch
knob because of the Jefferson National
[40:48] Forest or something
we talked to uh Brandon Olinger I know
[40:52] they have a new director can't remember
his name is it Mark Grimes Amy I can't
[40:57] remember that that's what I didn't email
um what was her name before
[41:02] um
Michelle Davis is who we worked with
[41:04] before uh but she has she took a new
position so we talked but Brandon
[41:09] Olinger is like her second I guess the
second in command and he said it's not
[41:13] out of the question for ATV trails to be
on U.S forest property but we have to go
[41:18] through they have called frog meetings
and they have plans that we can go
[41:22] through and make proposals and if it
makes sense and things that we can can
[41:26] show like The Trails and what impact it
would have and of course people are
[41:30] writing it today we know that and they
know that so if we can maybe show that
[41:34] we can help lessen the impact and Patrol
it I think it could be an option but it
[41:38] would take a little while to get done
well that's something I think you all
[41:41] need to look into in the future and then
I do hope that you will look at the I
[41:47] get I know you've been up there because
it's not far from the uh spearhead Trail
[41:52] there in snowball holla from where the
where they practice up there above where
[41:57] an old strip job is I don't know the
connection you all do you probably
[42:01] connected it out it goes all the way
into Baker Ridge I believe that that
[42:05] does and uh I know Glenwood they're
they're my third is 25 miles per hour at
[42:12] the town in Glenwood he's not 35 he's 25
but nevertheless uh I I hope you know
[42:19] Peggy and I attended a
I don't know it was you I talked to it
[42:24] seemed like it was up at UVA wise and I
asked about spearhead and I'd got a
[42:31] definitely no said what'd you that they
was not looking at anything in Dickinson
[42:36] County a form that they had up there
yeah that's what I was thinking yeah I
[42:41] definitely know yes it's always options
pardon me I would like to clarify it's
[42:47] sort of it's sort of disappointed me
when I heard that you know
[42:54] at the college
was talking to you not in the meeting we
[42:58] were talking about ATV trails yes sir
and we're working with The Nature
[43:02] Conservancy
they now own the property and they had
[43:07] told us at this time pertinent to the
ATVs that they do not anticipate anymore
[43:13] as of now
but now that may be something different
[43:18] if you're looking about
non-motorized trails
[43:22] horse trails
bicycle hiking
[43:26] all that and that would be able to
connect downtown with non-motorized that
[43:32] was what my intent to convey was not
that we're not getting planted on any
[43:36] Trails but we must uh abide with their
wishes and their guidelines
[43:42] and that's what they have told us about
the ATV trails at this time now down the
[43:48] road there may be more
but uh but you know there's something to
[43:53] think about where the the CSX closed
down
[43:56] they no longer run from Fremont to Lake
far which is 13 miles
[44:03] um and of course you know the track's
still there but uh
[44:08] we did
um I don't know what the status is do
[44:13] you know what the status is actually one
of the things we've got to talk about
[44:16] during our Economic Development
yeah yeah we had uh started that Madam
[44:23] chair and I if you're done Ronda I don't
know I appreciate everything you do I
[44:27] think you're running to great I
apologize for any misleading you in any
[44:31] manner I understand about the nature of
the nature conservancy and so forth and
[44:37] you have to do what they you know they
they basically all more land anybody in
[44:42] the county but nevertheless I do think
it would be a good idea if you look
[44:47] in the future to First knob and and so
what we could do to link things exactly
[44:53] snowball Hall yeah
sir if you know any Property Owners
[44:59] private landowners that's willing to
work with us we've got the first knob I
[45:04] don't know I mean
around town well all I know is that that
[45:09] that land up there is on by I believe in
town Clintwood owns that don't think
[45:13] Larry
uh they own a portion of it yeah they'd
[45:16] mentioned
the county makes up is what they are I
[45:22] think about great landowners
I think
[45:26] three landowners I think Dr Ratliff
didn't him there
[45:31] uh that's something in the future you
know it would be good to connect that up
[45:37] there where you've got the shooting
range and and the archery and it's just
[45:40] a it's exactly the only thing that's in
my district there and I've had some the
[45:45] thing that I with the hope that you know
that's been stripped up there and water
[45:50] pours off of that strip job and it the
people down below it and it affects you
[45:55] all too people getting up there I mean
sometimes you've got to go through like
[45:59] a creek to get up there I mean it just
pours out and of course VDOT doesn't
[46:04] clean out the ditches you know we all
know that so but nevertheless I've been
[46:08] up there for Waters just shoot and you
have two words just shooting off there
[46:12] there's something to look into with the
Reclamation if they can you know you can
[46:17] apply for Grants with a Reclamation to
help with that water it might help with
[46:22] other parts of it that's just something
I'm you know sort of going on and
[46:28] they're supposed to get back with us um
I've got so much money for Reclamation
[46:33] and that would be one of the biggest
places I think that Reclamation could
[46:39] occur and would be beneficial but one
thing I guess I want to reiterate though
[46:43] is just how to work nature conservances
work for work
[46:46] good and in that group we can't ask for
better relationship we're good I'm glad
[46:51] to hear that yeah having a chair I got
one more thing and I'm sorry there's a
[46:57] millions of requirements money and other
things working through the landowners is
[47:01] a more difficult task
but I would be remiss if I didn't
[47:05] mention we we have a trail from Grundy
to hayside we don't have anything to
[47:12] Saint Paul yet do we and it would be
good if we had something to clinch gold
[47:16] bro you know up through Caney Ridge or
or those areas too
[47:25] [Music]
[47:31] and they've talked to them about hockey
so far and and we know this is a lot of
[47:36] this we're discussing may be a long long
time before yeah you guys have done an
[47:43] awesome job and like you said
Shooting Complex is amazing
[47:48] I think that until you go up there the
wow factor
[47:57] and once you come up on that Hill is
that effect of what you see when you get
[48:00] up there and I think what would it
should be very proud you know the wow
[48:04] factor for me was when they said all
those um
[48:07] Sporting Clays at in the woods and stuff
like that and I ended up hitting only
[48:13] three of the birds that was a wild
factor for me
[48:16] but we just would like your own
suggestions of how handling that I mean
[48:20] reducing her community which is being
one County meeting
[48:24] what's wrong how would you like to see
it handled
[48:27] oh I see you have a farm and invite
people in let's hear their opinions and
[48:32] yeah
one Central meeting
[48:35] throughout the county well I don't I
don't know if that work or not but uh
[48:40] I think if you're going to hit each of
those areas you're going to have to have
[48:44] one in each year yeah each each place I
would think because
[48:49] you know High staff so much father above
us in that regard and clinch cut clinch
[48:55] God needs and and then Clintwood does
too you know I just want to say that
[48:59] it's very it's very
very nice place to go to
[49:05] well I wanted to relate we found it to
be very effective
[49:10] when the members of a community reach
out to their neighbors to get their
[49:14] input on the right-of-ways in the
easements across the property it works
[49:19] out a little bit better coming from the
neighbor than it does from us many times
[49:26] because everyone knows their name those
it gets to feel their sentiments off but
[49:31] I wanted Melissa to tell you about the
forthcoming hopefully Grant
[49:37] for the enforcements complex
and about our headquarters because she
[49:43] has worked so diligently on these
projects
[49:47] and talking about how far this has come
I've been there since the first meeting
[49:52] and it's so gratifying to see where it
is today
[49:55] and how far it's come we've had over 40
some projects in requests on the board
[50:02] right now
and it's hard to get to everything some
[50:05] of them are small others are quite
monumental
[50:09] and the Rails to Trails project is one
of them love to see that go that would
[50:14] be such a boon for the whole area
oh would it even be been discussed about
[50:21] rail pedal cars
something we don't even have in our area
[50:25] there is a few of them up in Northern
New York
[50:30] and they've been very successful that'd
be something totally different
[50:33] but we are open to suggestions that you
all may have
[50:39] on anything any thoughts or questions
that's why we're here you all have any
[50:44] further comments
not to belabor this but money marketing
[50:49] you all got to Market that shooting
range
[50:51] whether that's TV advertisements whether
that's Billboards whether that's a
[50:55] social media blitz
[51:01] uh you just got to Market it and I love
Andy Rose he's a wonderful Ambassador I
[51:08] love Joe I love Melissa wish Joe would
make them easier y'all doing a great job
[51:12] but you got to put your board Mr
mclennan's got to put money into
[51:15] marketing and I don't know if all the
counties need to join in with that but
[51:20] thank you for helping us to help us with
tourism
[51:25] and to help we got to have marketing I
think that's what you're missing help is
[51:30] the events now yeah three big events
coming up that we're getting ready to
[51:33] market for next year we're planning that
far ahead yeah
[51:38] IBO uh the ASA all of that different
stuff we're in we're doing um the IDPA
[51:44] and we're going to different ranges Iron
Mountain I don't know if I've heard of
[51:48] them in several uh it's a Sporting Clays
range and they're going to help us they
[51:52] said they would help us like we could
take our materials up there they're good
[51:54] that's right that's what I'm saying they
have a huge crop because they're right
[51:57] at the exit 407. but if you could run a
some kind of commercial or get a
[52:02] billboard say in Tazewell or saying run
to your say in Lebanon because that's
[52:06] what helps us is not necessarily my
neighbor going to shoot but it's us
[52:11] getting other counties people you know
people yeah
[52:17] that's my two cents but I appreciate
what y'all do and you've done a
[52:20] wonderful job
Madam chair I I promise I'm not trying
[52:25] to dominate the conversation here but
Josh's input made me thinking you guys
[52:31] did get some marketing through
part of Appalachia
[52:36] on the trails themselves because I sat
in Illinois northern Illinois on the
[52:40] Wisconsin border and I watched our Trail
being advertised on TV so the same thing
[52:46] with the shooting range if you've got a
bed see whether you can get with them to
[52:50] work that too and Kim Davis with friends
has been great to reach out to us now so
[52:55] that that's been good and then of course
the lieutenant Governor's visit was good
[52:58] and the Attorney General will be here
next month so I think those those are
[53:04] bringing some
some attention it's just the marketing
[53:07] you're around we need to capitalize on
more marketing opportunities gosh it's
[53:09] all right
yeah her being there was good because it
[53:13] was on TV and everything right it was
and and I think I think prompted the
[53:17] Attorney General's visit too because I
think that that helped that
[53:21] yeah and also we send two people and I
think Dana went did you go and come back
[53:27] uh to the marketing that Jack and
Burlington goes to
[53:37] you need to send some stuff with them
because they Market Dickinson County
[53:41] down there yeah she messaged me on
Facebook and asked me to give her some
[53:44] stuff to take personally okay so I need
to get that to her we uh send them down
[53:49] there we pay their motel for the sharing
on there
[53:57] supervisor's office
[54:01] and another place as far as trying to
connect to Saint Paul uh I'm not very
[54:07] familiar when you go up I think it's at
Phillips holler to tremel Gap
[54:12] if that would take you off towards Saint
Paul or uh Roaring Fork uproar Fork I
[54:20] know Roaring Fork will take you up on
the Hazel Mountain which will put you up
[54:24] on that side which will take you off
down Cheney Creek to Russell County but
[54:28] Trammell Gap is on the right hand side
up through there that might be a place
[54:33] to look for for that end of the county
we're actually working on the Main
[54:36] Street
[54:40] into St Paul and that could be a next
step okay
[54:46] small projects at a time okay it seems
to work really
[54:59] okay very good from memory
thank you thank you
[55:05] I had never been up there I came up
there when the lieutenant governor was
[55:09] up there uh ended up shooting a couple
of times which I hadn't it's been years
[55:15] and years since I shot uh I don't know
that I've ever shot a shotgun but I've
[55:20] not been back but I'm not saying I'm not
coming back I might go back up
[55:32] and it knocked me down but I appreciate
it
[55:37] thank you I appreciate you wanting to
come to the board and and give us an
[55:42] explanation thank you all
okay item number c on the presentation
[55:48] program is the Dickinson County Fair
committee who is your spokesperson
[55:54] okay go ahead
[56:02] okay
um
[56:07] let me introduce real quick uh some of
our committee members Lisa Rowe she's
[56:14] hiding over here
she's our Treasurer and she also
[56:19] I mean we could not attend the fair
without her she was in charge of the
[56:24] vendors she was worked her job full time
was at the fairgrounds day and night he
[56:30] had not had done it without Lisa Vicki
Martin as you all know is our secretary
[56:35] and she's really helped us out with
public relations through the Chamber of
[56:40] Commerce we have the two best pageant
directors in the state of Virginia Nancy
[56:46] Davis with Martin former Miss
Miss Virginia State Fair Whitney so
[56:54] we're really proud of our committee
Allison I want to say let's give these
[56:59] people a round of applause please
[57:02] foreign
[57:09] we were getting ready to give you all a
round of applause because
[57:13] um
had it not been for the Board of
[57:16] Supervisors financial support
public support
[57:22] and encouragement we would not have been
able to have
[57:27] the kind of fair that we had in
Dickinson County so we want to give you
[57:32] all a big hands
and we appreciate a lot of you all
[57:38] coming up to the fair but Larry Barton
spent all day Saturday helping us with
[57:44] traffic and he knows that the committee
we were the workhorses definitely we did
[57:49] it all but we so appreciate that
um
[57:54] what I wanted to kind of go over is some
data from the fair before I turn it over
[58:01] to a couple of these other folks because
you all need to know when you gave us
[58:05] money to fund the fair our number one
goal was to try to get rides back to the
[58:11] fair and we had a really difficult time
doing that we went a bunch of us went to
[58:16] the state convention in Williamsburg and
we met with the
[58:21] rad people there and they said uh no we
don't have we don't have the workforce
[58:27] we used to have and we can't come to
Dickinson County
[58:30] but the RC Cole who has they've been
doing Russell County for years he gave
[58:35] us a couple of phone numbers and we came
back
[58:38] and we called a fun time Family
amusements that is owned by uh Garth
[58:45] nicely and
um
[58:48] you know they brought about 10 rides and
I was very impressed with their rides
[58:54] and I've been a message of Mr nicely and
I said you know can we get an assurance
[59:00] that you all come back next year and
maybe bring two or three more good rides
[59:05] because we had long lines especially on
Friday and he messaged me and he said
[59:10] yes I'm going to send you dates soon and
please thank everyone for treating us so
[59:17] good so that's that was
I was happy which we knew he would come
[59:23] back he was happy he made a really nice
profit a very nice Prophet at the
[59:29] Dickinson County Fair
um
[59:33] we have tried kind of tried to gauge our
attendance based on ticket sales based
[59:40] on ticket sales at our gates but also
with the ride company and then we had a
[59:47] pass gate we had a lot of people that
were you know volunteers and vendors and
[59:52] so forth our biggest attendance day of
course was Friday where every kid got in
[59:58] free
and we still had a huge day at the gates
[1:00:04] we had a lot of paying people so we
would estimate based on the data that we
[1:00:09] have that the 10 attendance would fall
anywhere for the week between eight and
[1:00:15] eleven thousand people with the highest
attendance being on Friday and of course
[1:00:20] Saturday was another big day
I want to before I get into any
[1:00:27] real data
I'd like to ask Whitney to come up if
[1:00:31] she would and read just a few of the
many testimonials we had about the fair
[1:00:37] [Music]
I got one fought with you girls
[1:00:42] why can't you pick one from Dixon County
I knew that would already be an issue
[1:00:49] she's a pretty girl don't get me wrong I
completely understand
[1:00:54] girls here in Dixie we absolutely do um
I know we've had a few comments on that
[1:00:59] concerns so per Virginia Association
Affairs their guidelines all that it has
[1:01:04] to require is the woman has to be a
resident of Virginia Okay so
[1:01:09] if we only if we closed it down and I
only did Dickinson County we would
[1:01:13] probably have maybe five people in all
the pageant from zero to 22 years old
[1:01:19] maybe five people this year we had the
biggest attendance in Miss for Dickinson
[1:01:24] County people and it was still only
three really so
[1:01:27] if we did that we went and sitting near
the numbers that we did yeah it's okay
[1:01:33] you're allowed to so but now I
completely understand that and there's a
[1:01:37] lot that goes into it you know it's not
just looks it's the interview and the
[1:01:40] aspects of it all but of course we would
love to see a Dickinson County girl win
[1:01:45] it as well but I understand
family and spend money yeah yes
[1:01:51] absolutely and that was one thing yep
and I'm gonna read the testimonies and
[1:01:54] then I'll make Allison let me get back
up here and we'll talk a little bit more
[1:01:57] on the page it
[1:02:00] yeah so this is just some things that I
grabbed off Facebook people that had
[1:02:06] posted and share different things this
is just post I didn't dig into the
[1:02:09] comments but
um throughout the week I was just trying
[1:02:12] to screenshot stuff because I saw so
many people just really share a great
[1:02:15] post
um the first one says I've had a blast
[1:02:18] the past past two nights at the
Dickinson County Fair by far the best
[1:02:22] Fair we've ever had hats off to the fair
committee the entertainment has been
[1:02:26] awesome and it was so much fun seeing so
many people the pink room Hilltop era as
[1:02:31] well and hanging out with my friends
check it out this week and that was
[1:02:35] Donna Childers that said that thank you
Dickinson County Fair for letting our
[1:02:39] babies experience Affair like we all did
when we were younger and that's Crystal
[1:02:43] yeah or Crystal Lyle sorry
um my brains and I had the honor of
[1:02:47] closing out the music portion of the
Dickinson County Fair Saturday night in
[1:02:51] hayside Virginia it's always an honor
for me to get to perform at home we had
[1:02:56] friends and family drive all the way
from Illinois Ohio Tennessee and
[1:03:00] Kentucky for Saturday night Saturday
night's performance and we also saw a
[1:03:04] lot of our faithful supporters who
always come to any show that they can in
[1:03:08] mine the mountain was absolutely packed
y'all are the best my dear buddy Allison
[1:03:12] Mullins O'Quinn and the entire Fair
committee worked so hard to make this
[1:03:16] year spectacular and they did just that
I was informed that I will be there
[1:03:20] again to close out Saturday night in
2023 Dickinson County is truly God's
[1:03:26] country I love my home and I love my
people thanks to everyone for making all
[1:03:30] of this possible we will see you next
year on top of the mountain for the
[1:03:33] Dickinson County Fair Nathan Stanley
wonderful afternoon family friends food
[1:03:39] fun entertainment and so much more thank
you Dickinson County Fair committee this
[1:03:44] is the biggest crowd I have ever seen
Lily Thacker
[1:03:47] it's always a great day when you get to
watch people like Noah Peters perform it
[1:03:52] was great to see you again one of the
kindest people was such a beautiful
[1:03:55] voice Allison Mullins O'Quinn the fair
this year has been nothing but
[1:03:59] absolutely amazing and I'm so thankful
for all that you and the fair committee
[1:04:03] have done I've been upwind
the 2022 Dickinson County Fair now in
[1:04:09] the books every volunteer the fair
committee led by Allison Mullins O'Quinn
[1:04:14] every Entertainer all the contributors
all that made this event possible you
[1:04:20] deserve the highest price possible good
things happen when everyone works for
[1:04:24] the common good and no one cares who
gets the credit that's my observation of
[1:04:28] exactly what happened here but the real
heroes here are the people the people
[1:04:33] showed up they were given a wonderful
opportunity but so many times people in
[1:04:37] our County don't take advantage of what
we do have to offer as a county to the
[1:04:42] people who brought their kids themselves
to the fairground and supported the fair
[1:04:46] you deserve a real pat on the back this
image captures it best look at this
[1:04:51] child having the time of her life at the
fair that's what the fair and other
[1:04:54] events are all about onward and upper to
the 2023 version of the Dickinson County
[1:05:00] Fair Greg Baker
the Dickinson County Fair has really
[1:05:04] been great this year best one I've seen
in a very long time all the hard work
[1:05:08] put into by the fair committee has
really paid off it was great seeing old
[1:05:12] friends that I hadn't seen in decades
come out Chris Yates
[1:05:16] thank you Dickinson County Fair y'all
were awesome and so welcoming thank you
[1:05:20] for welcoming us with open arms and we
hope to be back soon that's Celeste
[1:05:24] Kellogg
last one I went to bed completely pooped
[1:05:28] last night and so tired but it was so
worth it Caitlyn with the Johnny B deal
[1:05:33] library and I with Haystack Community
Library represented at your libraries at
[1:05:38] the fair yesterday and we're so thankful
and blessed to see all the support you
[1:05:42] gave us I saw Caitlyn's post this
morning and it inspired me to make one
[1:05:46] of my own I love seeing Smiles on the
faces of all the kids in our community
[1:05:50] and I love to see them laughing and
having so much at the fair fun at the
[1:05:54] fair we were supposed to leave at three
yesterday but we tattooed glittered hair
[1:05:59] colored and airbrushed until after six
many kids either offered us money or
[1:06:04] were in shock that our services were
free I was happy to let them know that
[1:06:07] our services are always free support for
us is not with money but just being
[1:06:11] inside of our buildings we are Beyond
thankful to the fair community and
[1:06:15] Allison Mullins O'Quinn for letting us
be a part of the wonderful fair that
[1:06:19] they had this year so you came to see us
on the mountain now come see us at the
[1:06:23] library Sarah Rose
so that's just a few of the testimonies
[1:06:26] that I found when scrolling through
Facebook and I'm sure if you're on
[1:06:30] social media you saw them too and
um knowing that not only the hard work
[1:06:34] that that I've put in it personally but
knowing all the hard work especially
[1:06:39] Allison that she's put into it just it
just really gives you just peace of mind
[1:06:44] and you just feel really blessed to see
that people appreciated what came
[1:06:48] together on the mountain this year so
I'll turn it back over to Allison thank
[1:06:51] you
[1:06:54] yeah and one other testimony that I'll
summarize uh Celeste Kellogg who is one
[1:07:00] of the entertainers that came Saturday
she's from the other end of the state
[1:07:04] a family that is big fans of hers the
Collins family they came from Chicago
[1:07:10] Illinois and they stayed uh in the
breaks at a cabin in the breaks and Mike
[1:07:16] Collins messaged me a couple of days ago
he said I hope that Celeste you all can
[1:07:20] bring Celeste back but even if you don't
next week we're going to spend a week at
[1:07:27] your fair and stay in the brakes and uh
that that's what one of the things that
[1:07:32] I was really happy about is that people
could see what Dickinson County has to
[1:07:37] offer
and they love it you know they loved it
[1:07:42] and so we're very thankful but I want to
give you guys just a little packet and
[1:07:48] I'm sorry I only have seven copies so
one of you may have to share
[1:07:57] yeah
Josh was talking about marketing and the
[1:08:03] spearhead Trail I loved your history and
I'm on it often
[1:08:07] but we didn't get the marketing grant
that we applied for uh we didn't have
[1:08:13] enough data from
years past about you know how many
[1:08:17] people came and we wasn't able to be
specific enough so we didn't qualify for
[1:08:22] the grant but the Chamber of Commerce
helped us out with a billboard and we
[1:08:29] were very appreciative of that but I
just got
[1:08:34] I just got a message yeah Harmon
Junction I just got a message on our
[1:08:40] Facebook account this morning
that for August 30th through September
[1:08:45] 26th
we reached 48.7
[1:08:50] 000 people
on our Facebook account
[1:08:53] we had 33 000 post engagements in that
28-day period on our Facebook account
[1:09:03] we went from having under 500 follows
and likes to having over 3 000 followers
[1:09:11] and likers on our Facebook account and a
lot of that is due to that first page in
[1:09:17] that packet that I just gave you all
which is or a lady that did design for
[1:09:23] us Autumn Hutchinson no pay
she's on the team she's on the fire
[1:09:28] committee uh her design in my opinion
will be award-winning this year at the
[1:09:36] state fair convention our slogan was
meet us on the mountain and we put in
[1:09:42] that picture things that we have to
offer things that we're proud of are
[1:09:48] coal mining or music
a part of our Legacy and that is what
[1:09:54] was on everything that we sent out for
marketing was that logo meet us on the
[1:09:59] mountain and one of our other slogans
was something for everyone and that's
[1:10:04] what we tried to provide with something
for everyone and
[1:10:09] um so
I have given you all
[1:10:14] um
our profit and loss
[1:10:18] on the first on the profit and loss it's
front and back
[1:10:22] two-sided but you can see I'm not going
to announce it but you can see at the
[1:10:27] front that's what is in our checking
account
[1:10:30] as we speak
I remember Mr Peter saying when he voted
[1:10:36] in favor to help us out that hopefully
this will be
[1:10:40] something that we can eventually get on
our own and I think we can
[1:10:46] so this you've done an awesome job I'm
impressed I knew you could do it thank
[1:10:52] you very much this is what we have in
our checking account we still have
[1:10:56] expenses to come out and the big
expenses we will have is the water and
[1:11:01] sewer bill at the Kiwanis that'll be our
biggie but we still think we'll have a
[1:11:07] pretty good
start for next year in our bank account
[1:11:12] and um
this is the profit and loss goes from
[1:11:16] January to current
and so we're in the Plus for this year
[1:11:22] even after having the fair yes I thought
I'd mention something because of
[1:11:28] something you said you said sewer
because you have to have it pumped right
[1:11:32] right
in the near future we won't have to do
[1:11:35] that anymore because come on Plateau
just
[1:11:38] obtained a hundred thousand dollars for
us to do that yeah that's awesome good
[1:11:43] to the public server that's great look
to the public store how do you not have
[1:11:47] it anyway the Jail's on public sewer
[1:11:56] yes that'll help you tremendous yeah
that'll help a lot but the other page
[1:12:02] that I gave you all is just our team and
what we had to do because we had such a
[1:12:07] big task and when you all gave us money
we took that responsibility very
[1:12:13] seriously we we wanted to make the
county proud and we wanted to have
[1:12:18] something that the kids especially could
be proud of and that they could look
[1:12:23] forward to every year so when you
entrusted us with that money we wanted
[1:12:27] to be good stewards of it we think we
have been good stewards of it
[1:12:32] um you know we came up with ideas of how
to get people to come and we didn't have
[1:12:37] any money we didn't have any marketing
money so we we did it you know so the
[1:12:43] team that you have the next page
in your packet is just our uh we had to
[1:12:50] divide into subcommittees because we
have very specific things that people
[1:12:55] had to do in order to accomplish all
that had to be accomplished
[1:13:00] and we have a great team and our team
works together and you know we just
[1:13:06] we're appreciative the board appointed a
lot of the people on the team and then
[1:13:11] other people have said we'd like to help
too and we have to have people that will
[1:13:16] help we can't just do it with eight or
ten people we have to have and it takes
[1:13:22] I've had two people that work at
Behavioral Health say we would like to
[1:13:27] be on the Fair Community next year we'd
like to maybe do a zone for special
[1:13:31] needs kids and other things like that
but we have the best marketing team on
[1:13:39] zero budget and I think the county
really needs to look at the model that
[1:13:45] the fair committee has used for
marketing why in the world can't we
[1:13:50] Market everything we have from the
shooting range I mean we're reaching 50
[1:13:54] 000 people here we're having people from
all different states come to Dickinson
[1:13:58] County and get excited about Dickinson
County we've got so much to offer I
[1:14:03] would recommend that the county look at
hiring Autumn Hutchinson as a marketing
[1:14:08] designer I really would she did this she
did she did all of her she did right I
[1:14:14] mean this is great and this is all free
and I can tell you where does she live
[1:14:19] she lives uh Bartley yeah she
um I will tell you she does all the
[1:14:27] pictures
[1:14:30] the kids they flyer that we put in the
paper Josh Evans sponsoring the kids day
[1:14:36] she did that every flyer that we have
and I'm telling you social media is the
[1:14:42] way to go you don't need to spend a
fortune in marketing but we have got you
[1:14:48] know Celeste Kellogg came here from the
other end of the state and she's in love
[1:14:51] with with Dickinson County overnight
we just have to get people to come and
[1:14:57] so I'm not going to go on and on about
the fair we're very appreciative of you
[1:15:03] all what we would like to see moving
forward we would like to have two or
[1:15:07] three more rides next year we would like
to be able to afford to have during Kids
[1:15:15] Day something that was missing we had
some 4-H kids doing a little bit of
[1:15:20] entertainment during kids day but while
those lines are really long for the
[1:15:25] rides it would be nice if we had like a
variety act going on throughout the day
[1:15:30] on the main stage so that parents and
kids could take a break we just didn't
[1:15:36] have enough we didn't we had no idea
this many people would come we had zero
[1:15:41] ideas they did though yeah I'll tell you
what I've my experience when I went to
[1:15:45] two nights I
they were overwhelmed because they
[1:15:49] didn't think they rented any people so I
stood I stood in line an hour and a high
[1:15:54] for a funnel cake well I know I mean and
we had a lot we had more food vendors
[1:15:59] than we've ever had well they worked
they didn't they the people like the
[1:16:03] Lions Club yeah realized they were going
to be hit with this and we did we did
[1:16:07] bring back you know we're trying to get
our 501c3 back the barn the 4-H took
[1:16:13] care of that Kelly rose couldn't be here
need more animals need more animals you
[1:16:17] need more games right uh the my
grandchildren just got to you know yeah
[1:16:24] but you need more games because you know
you didn't have but I'm just saying what
[1:16:29] you need but sure for what you did you
know it was overwhelming Friday Friday
[1:16:35] night it was I mean I couldn't get I
couldn't this whole show who gets to get
[1:16:40] who gets the money from that go on no is
it fair it's the fair Horse Show so how
[1:16:46] much did the fair our the horse show
take in
[1:16:51] probably seven or eight thousand dollars
yeah well the big the big draw was the
[1:16:56] truck pull I would say the truck
yeah
[1:17:00] our special events our special events
were dirt days we had ATV events
[1:17:08] Motocross
uh truck pull
[1:17:13] um horse show the beauty pageant you
know those types of things we'd like to
[1:17:18] have one more what we would call special
event
[1:17:21] Kids Day kids day so they'll have
something to do during the day we just
[1:17:27] we did not
I mean it's like
[1:17:31] I'm not saying it is everything's a God
thing everything is but you know when
[1:17:37] you're looking out at all these people
you have to feed with two fish and Five
[1:17:41] Loaves we had no idea I mean people just
kept kids day they were lined out the
[1:17:47] gate for three or four hours who knew
that parents would and I'm so thankful
[1:17:52] that the school board did the early
dismissions
[1:18:00] but also the other thing is hopefully
next year we can have just no school on
[1:18:06] that day and we didn't have a football
game that night you know so that worked
[1:18:10] out good but anyway we don't want to go
backwards with the fair we want it to go
[1:18:15] forwards and so we would appreciate your
consideration of of help in this coming
[1:18:22] year we're planning on going to the fair
convention that's where we met Celeste
[1:18:27] Kellogg she has tremendous response to
her uh you know everybody's like you
[1:18:33] gotta bring Celeste back you got to
bring us I'm like we probably won't be
[1:18:36] able to afford her next year because
she'll be in Nashville you know but who
[1:18:40] knows and of course we've got to keep
the Stanley's in it I mean that is our
[1:18:46] heritage Nathan was great maybe Ralph 2
can come next time but I've got a letter
[1:18:53] from Carol Turner uh and Donna fields
that did our sponsors and I'm not going
[1:18:59] to read it I'm just going to summarize
we had about fourteen thousand dollars
[1:19:04] in sponsors from our local businesses we
had three pages Rita Surat read them off
[1:19:10] every night before the entertainment the
most sponsors they've ever had had for
[1:19:16] the fair and this was County Wide it was
all over the county businesses responded
[1:19:22] we were overwhelmed by that and a lot of
that on this page Allison your sponsor
[1:19:28] um
we don't have the list of our sponsors I
[1:19:32] must have told you you got four
sponsorship okay I'll tell you that
[1:19:36] 195. yeah
it's on
[1:19:40] um
[1:19:44] one thing I don't see if I may uh is
member compensation were you all
[1:19:50] compensated for this no may I ask how
many hours do you think you put in not
[1:19:55] just during the week but in preparation
for this
[1:20:06] well I probably had it Saturday but I
wouldn't test till after the fact sorry
[1:20:11] her immune system
and I'm not going to sit and say you
[1:20:17] needed this or you needed that or this
should have been that you all did a
[1:20:20] great job for free for this County this
was a wonderful investment this board
[1:20:25] made and I can't thank you enough for
what you've done and I'm not trying to
[1:20:28] speed you up or I bet I I know what
you've done because I've seen your
[1:20:32] meeting I know when you met I know you
did it for free and it was a home run
[1:20:36] hit success and I can't thank you all
enough and um I I think he was perfect
[1:20:42] so I'm not going to say or critique
anything about it well we did we did
[1:20:47] meet in uh we had our meetings in
Clintwood clinchco and hayside and we
[1:20:53] rotated them and you know we have
committee members from all throughout
[1:20:58] the county it takes a village when you
have a small place like a population
[1:21:02] like we have but I want to tell you that
the reward we got I'm speaking for
[1:21:09] myself and I thank everybody of
listening to those kids laughing
[1:21:14] uh listening to them just say I'm so sad
that the fire's over and some of them
[1:21:19] don't ever get to do anything
where can you get in free and ride all
[1:21:24] day long for ten dollars and not have to
leave hayside and not have to leave the
[1:21:29] county I mean that was worth a million I
would have put a million hours into it
[1:21:34] if I needed to well yeah
I want to commend our lady I was
[1:21:39] thinking what John said I'll commit you
Allison I know you've worked your butt
[1:21:43] off because I want to have denied the
two nine signs there you would you was
[1:21:48] Hands-On yeah you knew what was going on
uh it wouldn't have been successful
[1:21:53] without you I don't care what anybody
says
[1:21:57] that's what I believe I know you had a
lot of good help and I think each of you
[1:22:01] ladies but without your
energy and your sacrificing your time it
[1:22:09] would not have been success and it was
successful thank you and I I I we as I I
[1:22:16] thank you very much well you're welcome
I thank you and uh Celeste Kellogg kept
[1:22:21] saying
you know she's become our friend and her
[1:22:25] family has she would be up there singing
and saying uh and Allison let me do
[1:22:30] where is Allison I only got to listen to
one son but I did go back but I want to
[1:22:36] bring up just real briefly and I know
we're taking up probably too much time
[1:22:39] but I want you all to know that we have
if you decide you're going to provide
[1:22:43] any support to the fair next year we
can't wait until
[1:22:48] you know we have to start booking things
probably in at least by January at least
[1:22:54] so that's just to let you on a and um
Nancy will come up just briefly and then
[1:23:01] be and I think that too much
yeah
[1:23:07] Nancy's my mom in case you didn't know
you know it's not Locker or anything
[1:23:12] um but I'll be really brief too
um so you guys gave us three thousand
[1:23:16] dollars this year for the pageant which
meant the world to us
[1:23:20] um Mom and I took the pageant over the
year that I crowned we took it over for
[1:23:25] the next year and so this is our fifth
year having the pageant we didn't have
[1:23:29] it one year because of coven but this is
the biggest turnout that we've ever had
[1:23:33] for the pageant ever and I've been
involved in pageantry for upwards of 20
[1:23:39] years and this is the biggest turnout
we've ever seen at the Dickinson County
[1:23:44] Fair for a pageant we had 63 contestants
um in the whole entire pageant just to
[1:23:50] kind of compare that we had 32 last year
um one of the first things that we did
[1:23:54] whenever we received the three thousand
dollars from you all is we we went ahead
[1:23:59] and lowered our entry fee so in the past
we were able to drop it by 15 so that
[1:24:05] way we were hoping we would be able to
reach more people to be able to do the
[1:24:09] pageant
um we also were able to give away a two
[1:24:12] thousand dollar scholarship and that was
sponsored by Belcher insurance and jnr
[1:24:17] Furniture
um and so we're kind of already in the
[1:24:20] works for talking about things that
would be popular for next year as well
[1:24:23] oh and Johnson's and Johnson Chevrolet
I'm sorry John Johnson don't I hope you
[1:24:28] don't can't hear me you know
um and then Western Pharmacy gave us 500
[1:24:32] so we use that for cash prize for our
winners as well so
[1:24:36] um 0 to 12 year old kids that won got
fifty dollars back so they got their
[1:24:41] entry fee returned to them
um and then our team and Miss winners
[1:24:45] got 100 cash
um so something we're kind of talking
[1:24:48] about is how we can involve people from
Dickinson County more you know maybe it
[1:24:53] will be an option that Mom and I can
hand pick somebody who can receive an
[1:24:59] additional scholarship maybe they didn't
win the pageant but they had really
[1:25:02] impressive background and could really
use the scholarship
[1:25:06] um but the pageant means a lot to me um
I was Miss Dickinson County in 2016 and
[1:25:11] then I went on to win Miss Virginia
Association Affairs so there's only been
[1:25:16] two people ever to win from Dickinson
County and so we're hoping to bring our
[1:25:20] third one back this year so we go the
third week in June January so what
[1:25:26] little bit of money we brought in and
have left over we will use up there on
[1:25:30] our trip to help pay for our Queen to go
and entry fees and all of that but and
[1:25:35] I'm sure part of our community will go
and so we're just really thankful for
[1:25:39] you guys and all that you guys did it
really means a lot to us to have you all
[1:25:43] support
[Music]
[1:25:50] okay hey Allison
so I know you guys are probably tired
[1:25:58] yeah when get a meeting and get your
stuff together and we'll need to get a
[1:26:05] requirement and why no promises made we
just need to look at it and thank you
[1:26:10] I'm voting yes yeah we gotta we wanna we
wanna continue the success you did what
[1:26:16] we asked you to do yeah
[1:26:19] hello everyone
first of all I want to thank Larry
[1:26:23] Barton for all that parking he did set
that Saturday
[1:26:28] and everybody else that was there but
thank you all for everything that you've
[1:26:32] done for us and without this group and
the 30-some plus other committee members
[1:26:38] we couldn't have had we couldn't have
done this and and Josh to answer your
[1:26:42] question it was over hundreds of hours
that she put in well we probably didn't
[1:26:49] put in as much but we tried
and I'm sorry but Rita couldn't be here
[1:26:54] tonight
Rita and the tourism for Gina tourism
[1:26:58] um sponsored a
billboard for the fair
[1:27:04] it was it was stationed at the 460
Harmon Junction
[1:27:09] and we got a lot of response out of
Kentucky
[1:27:12] West Virginia that part of Virginia part
of the Southwest Virginia that we
[1:27:18] normally don't even hear from Tazewell
County Buckhannon County everything we
[1:27:23] have people from Illinois North Carolina
South Carolina Georgia Tennessee
[1:27:29] Kentucky Michigan Ohio West Virginia and
possibly more that I did not get in
[1:27:38] touch with
and without Rita's marketing
[1:27:42] you know
we we had it going but Rita helped quite
[1:27:46] a bit
so so we appreciate everything you all
[1:27:50] done we appreciate all the dicks County
Sheriff's Department
[1:27:54] um all the workers and things we just
cannot extol
[1:27:58] enough gratitude to everyone
thank you Vicky you worked hard
[1:28:04] I'd just like to say that
it takes as Rita said in that I mean as
[1:28:10] Allison said and as others have said it
takes a village to put stuff together
[1:28:13] for kids it takes everybody being
cooperative with one another give and
[1:28:20] taken with one another Allison had to
drive
[1:28:24] to get this started back to take this
over to get help from the committee I
[1:28:30] appreciate that
um
[1:28:32] but it touched my heart
when we was down there on Friday night
[1:28:39] and talking to Vicki when we was leaving
how tears rolled up in her eyes
[1:28:45] to see the kids
to be so appreciative
[1:28:50] to having a day off from school and a
place that they could go get in free and
[1:28:55] ride so many rides
Man Hunter talked all the way off of the
[1:28:59] mountain
how touched that she was that if
[1:29:04] everybody seen that
then you know the fair was a was a
[1:29:10] winner
you know they may have been things that
[1:29:12] people didn't like I don't ride rides I
didn't get out and walk a whole lot but
[1:29:17] I enjoyed listening to the kids holler
and laugh and people eating and having
[1:29:22] things that they enjoyed and and I and
I'm glad
[1:29:29] could support you
when we went to the school board meeting
[1:29:36] um Allison and Judy Compton you know we
talked to the school board and I first
[1:29:42] was was not going to say anything then I
thought it's burning on my heart being a
[1:29:47] retired teacher that you know you got to
say something
[1:29:50] and so I got it there and I didn't
play to them on behalf of us the
[1:29:56] committee I pled on behalf of the
children
[1:30:00] they hadn't had anything for years
and that's what they needed was that day
[1:30:06] at the fair that the fair is what they
needed
[1:30:09] we have a meeting or we're attending a
thing after school tomorrow at 3 30 to
[1:30:16] to go through and and view the the new
construction site and I plan to stay for
[1:30:22] the board meeting and get on and speak
and thank them on behalf of the board on
[1:30:29] behalf of the county that the school did
that for our children thank you thank
[1:30:34] you I do claim the stuff thank you
Scotty was there a single arrest made
[1:30:40] that whole week at the fair
issued
[1:30:47] I mean I know the arrest at the
fairgrounds
[1:30:52] yes there was one arrest was there on
the fire property or yes it was a
[1:30:58] wonderful person not related to okay
so there was no fighting no swapping no
[1:31:05] nothing it was an individual that we
we've been looking for for several
[1:31:10] months and just happened to be there
well we helped you
[1:31:14] know
thank you I didn't mean thank you you
[1:31:19] guys did it
we had one minor uh vehicle accident it
[1:31:25] was late at night lady thought the road
was in front over it wasn't there so she
[1:31:31] ended up to ditch we'd get her towed out
I think on kids day we had a we had a
[1:31:36] missing 11 year old for about five
minutes we located her but that was the
[1:31:40] only cost of service we had and I know
you had officers there the whole week
[1:31:44] and we appreciate that so yeah
[Applause]
[1:31:50] thank you for your presentation thank
you for the job well done for having
[1:31:57] confidence to tackle this
having the drink that you could come out
[1:32:03] ahead to start another year with
um I thank you
[1:32:10] thank you lady
thank you all excellent thank you
[1:32:15] appreciate it
all right
[1:32:24] okay guess we move on to item number
seven
[1:32:30] um
we have a board appointment carried over
[1:32:34] from last month
which is the Kennedy District to the
[1:32:39] public welfare board and I will now give
this to Mrs Willis
[1:32:47] I would love to make a motion to appoint
Diana Mullins to fill out Ginger
[1:32:52] Center's expired term
[1:32:59] may I
wait she's a muddy Street
[1:33:08] I have a motion on the floor to a point
Diana Mullins
[1:33:13] for my appointment to finish out uh Miss
Center's term
[1:33:17] do I hear a second for that motion well
I think I I'll second it four
[1:33:25] we have a moving second on the floor to
a point Miss Diana Mullins to the public
[1:33:30] welfare board to serve out the term of
Ginger Center which expires in March of
[1:33:35] 23 all in favor please say aye
aye aye Madam chair please note my
[1:33:41] abstention
okay so four yeses and one abstain
[1:33:45] [Applause]
[1:33:50] okay
uh has will called in or anything I
[1:33:56] still haven't heard from him he must be
in a mess I'll cut it up
[1:34:01] okay you want me to try to reach him no
that's okay I was just it just
[1:34:07] just uh moving on to item number eight
which is our new business
[1:34:13] and our first one is
um a letter that Mr Barton has received
[1:34:17] from the Cumberland our airport
Commission
[1:34:22] I think it was if you sure thank you
madam chair the later before you and
[1:34:27] your packet is one that was received it
was dated August 25th and basically uh
[1:34:32] Dickinson County uh uh back in 1958 by
the accident the Virginia General
[1:34:37] Assembly of through the enabling acts of
of the
[1:34:42] criminals airport commission was named a
member as well as other local counties
[1:34:47] and all the townships right now the
commission is
[1:34:51] trying to update those enabling acts
with the general assembly and they're
[1:34:55] basically asking if we still want to be
a part of the commission I know each of
[1:34:59] the towns and each of the counties
represented by the Cumberland airports
[1:35:02] commission received this same letter
because I've spoken with the towns in
[1:35:06] the county
um on this we had a doctor Center that
[1:35:12] served recently in this role and done a
very good job representing Dickinson
[1:35:16] County and he has moved and so you know
if we decide to stay in the commission
[1:35:20] we will need to add that to a future
agenda to get that
[1:35:25] did he give a resignation he told me
that he had to resign from right he
[1:35:30] didn't give an official resignation
but he told me he had really enjoyed
[1:35:34] serving them right he did a good job
representing us on that I know this is
[1:35:40] the first year we've actually provided
funding we've provided five thousand
[1:35:43] dollars in funding this year
um they had requested 32 000 from us and
[1:35:49] we funded them five thousand dollars so
I I don't know a whole lot more than
[1:35:54] that I don't know if it's something we
need Mr Rose to come to a future board
[1:35:58] meeting to answer any questions that you
might have
[1:36:01] this budget we did the first time we
ever had we need to put somebody on
[1:36:05] there then Madam chair I'd like to speak
um
[1:36:08] I find what I found interesting is
reading the bylaws and um what I would
[1:36:14] um say I'm not against it but we are in
two commissions and we're in the Grundy
[1:36:19] airport one it might be good that we
invite them to come speak to us but I
[1:36:24] found interesting is reading this one
they're supposed to submit to the
[1:36:28] governing bodies of the respective
counties and cities towns for which
[1:36:32] they've it is formed for their approval
of budget now I don't think we've ever
[1:36:37] seen their budget
it's on uh Quest it's paragraph six
[1:36:42] right so and I know I agree with you
totally and I don't know why we even fun
[1:36:47] to do just to be
honestly now Grundy we don't find
[1:36:52] anything as of yet but I'm just I'm not
against it what I'm saying is we maybe
[1:36:57] should get a briefing from both of them
I'm not trying to play unfair here I
[1:37:00] want to I know the Grundy one and it's
still working through the wickets of FAA
[1:37:06] and all that because they're strip
mining the coal to expand that airport
[1:37:10] and all the expenses have been paid
really coming what they're paying is
[1:37:16] coming up without grant money coming out
of seven stack for the cold under the
[1:37:21] airport
but I guess think it'd be good to get an
[1:37:25] update from them as well because at one
point James Keane was going to come to
[1:37:28] you but in this one I'm seeing things
that they're specifically
[1:37:33] supposed to do
and maybe we need to get that before we
[1:37:36] go ahead with this I'm not saying it's a
bad thing I may have that with the
[1:37:40] bedroom request we have to go back for
our bedroom information when they sent
[1:37:43] the request to us for funding and look
through our stuff they may have sent
[1:37:46] their proposal it may help they may have
I just don't remember that and um
[1:37:52] and then you know there's
it would be good to get some feedback
[1:37:57] from it
all right
[1:38:01] I'm just suggesting we table it and go
back and get some information if we can
[1:38:06] if time allows for it and then um I'm
not saying we should get out of it
[1:38:11] and I and I would like to have Grundy
come and talk to you about theirs as
[1:38:16] well miss Wills go ahead you can I think
the reason that we support this is if we
[1:38:21] ever develop red onion
any CEO is going to fly into the wise
[1:38:27] Airport and I think that's the
importance of staying in with wise is if
[1:38:33] we get the red onion developed in any
way at all
[1:38:38] Shelby I agree wait a second
I said that's my opinion that we should
[1:38:45] continue to support it is because of the
Red Onion product
[1:38:50] no that's great and I I agree with you
I'm just saying let's um let's get a
[1:38:55] briefing for a moment let's get
something from each of them you know
[1:38:58] that's why I threw the other one in
there too not contingent to this but it
[1:39:04] would be good to get some feedback
[1:39:08] and I believe that might have been
mentioned by Miss Willis or something in
[1:39:12] our budget discussions of of making that
contribution was uh the use of red onion
[1:39:19] yeah it is
my refuting saying we need to get rid of
[1:39:26] it but what I'm saying let you know I I
don't remember seeing these bylaws
[1:39:30] before and I thought that's good they've
done they've submitted some so we
[1:39:35] already give them the check that's my oh
yeah that's a done deal this isn't a
[1:39:39] request for money well I just won't say
it right with July so Appropriations
[1:39:44] I mean we're what happens to the money
if we were to check notes
[1:39:49] that's what that's all I care about I'm
wondering the same thing so we didn't
[1:39:52] send the check so why don't we just kick
yes and finish out the year and I I
[1:39:56] don't disagree with what Miss Willis
said but they've done got her check so
[1:40:00] I mean why would we just say yes and
well I'm not I'm not trying to say no
[1:40:06] what I'm saying
they've done got our money so I think
[1:40:10] you should be able to ask him to come
talk to us whether or not they suggest
[1:40:13] to give us a briefing well let's ask
them yeah
[1:40:17] I don't think we need to table this or
on that though maybe we should ask them
[1:40:21] to come at our workshops when we have
our next year's budget
[1:40:27] since we've already yeah I mean they've
got the check now so this don't even
[1:40:30] matter really I mean if you ask me yeah
[1:40:35] so we are here for a year aren't we yeah
well they've got our money for a year so
[1:40:40] why would we not just say yes they've
done a lot of money again I wasn't
[1:40:43] trying to say turn them down what I was
trying to say and have them provide us
[1:40:49] up you've not we don't have any you you
and I do not know anything about what
[1:40:54] this Airport's discussed but yet we give
them five thousand dollars that they've
[1:40:58] already got so that's what I'm saying it
don't matter well if it means we're
[1:41:02] gonna be kicked out next month I guess
yes but if not why not have them come
[1:41:07] speak to us well I agree
[1:41:16] and then let's just check my vote would
be yes on this because they've done
[1:41:21] cashed our check
okay do we
[1:41:25] are there any more discussion or are we
ready to move on to take a motion and
[1:41:29] second if we're ready to go with this
discussions done okay our move that we
[1:41:34] desire on this box to continue to be a
member of the airport commission with
[1:41:40] the uh caveat that I agree with Ron that
we need to invite them here to see what
[1:41:46] our five thousand dollars has gone for
a second I'll second it
[1:41:52] have a moving second on the floor to
stay to check yes to still continue to
[1:41:58] be a member of the Cumberlands airport
commission and ask them to come and
[1:42:03] attend a meeting all in favor please say
yes yes yes yes yes for me okay moving
[1:42:10] on to item number B
[1:42:14] item number B is a resolution to the of
the Dickinson County Board of
[1:42:20] Supervisors declare in Dickinson County
to be a pro-life County
[1:42:26] um
that we have discussion or who who has a
[1:42:31] discussion that may have brought this
before the agenda or
[1:42:35] I I
sponsored it but I um I just thought
[1:42:40] once more neighboring counties are doing
this I thought we should state where we
[1:42:45] are on this issue
and that's the reason I brought it
[1:42:49] forward well I guess I co-sponsored it
with you and I agree and I'm very glad
[1:42:52] you did it was something that was on my
radar as well
[1:42:56] and the Crux of this resolution
maintains that our County that we have
[1:43:02] absolutely no interest
in supporting
[1:43:06] or allowing any sort of abortion
Provisions services to be done inside
[1:43:13] this County and I'm very proud to have
co-sponsored this on our agenda with you
[1:43:19] Ron and I'm glad you brought it to our
attention so
[1:43:22] I don't have I like Mr Sturgill actually
drafted this
[1:43:26] he took a I think the template we had
um and he drafted it specifically for us
[1:43:32] so
who else was on that email I think um I
[1:43:36] think I was you
[1:43:41] so I'm fine with it unless someone wants
us to read it we have Mr Sturgill's
[1:43:46] approval yeah yeah he is premium word
Smith that
[1:43:53] I make a motion we approve the
resolution the Clarence Dixon can to be
[1:43:56] a pro-life County I'll second it
okay we have a moving second on the
[1:44:02] floor to
um pass the resolution stating that
[1:44:06] Dickinson County is a pro-life County
all in favor please say aye yes I think
[1:44:12] you'd have to do a roll call oh excuse
me you're right
[1:44:15] um which our names are listed yeah we do
okay starting down the first one it's
[1:44:21] got listed Clintwood District Rhonda
slice uh Irvington district Peggy I Sand
[1:44:26] Lake Ron Peters aye Kennedy District
Miss Willis
[1:44:31] aye and Willis District Mr Evans yes
okay yes I'll pass this by roll call
[1:44:36] vote
okay moving on to item number c which is
[1:44:42] signs on the uh Dickinson County Board
of supervisor resolution
[1:44:47] regarding signs on Dickinson County
property
[1:44:51] you expect I'll explain that Madam chair
thank you uh this we had this on the
[1:44:56] agenda last night at the Ida meeting the
Ida owns the property here at the diesel
[1:45:00] and they approved this uh resolution as
well all of our local counties around us
[1:45:04] have similar resolutions and this is one
of theirs that Mr Sturgill adapted for
[1:45:10] Dickinson County on this basically what
it's saying it don't mean they can't fit
[1:45:14] uh campaign signs up on Election Day
that's fine as they can in any other
[1:45:17] polling place interest in the time
during the early voting that's going on
[1:45:21] now it started last Friday between then
and election day they can't be putting
[1:45:26] election signs on the diesel property
here on the informational signs that are
[1:45:29] placed by County Employees so
okay
[1:45:34] and Madam chair I'd make a motion unless
you're further discussion uh subject to
[1:45:39] further discussion that we've made some
resolution everybody has the right to
[1:45:44] campaign
I'm I'm saying you know I put signs up
[1:45:48] everywhere
I put them up on the highway department
[1:45:52] right away than everybody else has too
but you know they're early voting so
[1:45:59] many people don't know who is running
[1:46:07] I have an issue
with them being everywhere or like 25 of
[1:46:14] one person
I would be
[1:46:18] I would be happy if
everyone who's running has the right to
[1:46:22] put up one side
[1:46:26] because early voting is as important and
to me as going to my polls to vote and
[1:46:33] putting up science
[1:46:40] so whatever the pleasure of the board is
well I mean they both have one time well
[1:46:44] I guess my thing is if we bring a
prospect here
[1:46:49] um we bring you know other groups here
to this building this is our government
[1:46:53] building
um and they don't maybe necessarily know
[1:46:57] that we do our early voting here and
they see a bunch of
[1:47:02] campaign
stuff right at the entrance of the
[1:47:07] government center The Hub of our
government and our Hub of our Ida I mean
[1:47:12] why not
I'd like to have them down personally I
[1:47:16] don't think we need them right here in
the interest of our Hub of our County
[1:47:19] [Music]
I think it looks awful and I just don't
[1:47:25] know if you're sample they're not on
that property but there's several and
[1:47:29] and I don't I don't personally
[1:47:34] taxpayer home property
I think the signs and reptiles are now
[1:47:39] who's popular they are that's our tax
that's our other County property yeah
[1:47:42] they're all through towards the Boating
trailers
[1:47:45] now the early early voting signs and
stuff like that can stay right about
[1:47:50] their informational signs about many
employees
[1:47:54] yeah says the informational stance
placed on digital property by counting
[1:47:57] set are permitted so
the informational sounds like we have
[1:48:02] the quilt show here that's an
informational sign advertising that
[1:48:05] there's a quilt showing things those are
all permitted so
[1:48:10] okay we have a motion on the floor
bye Josh is there a second
[1:48:18] I'll second it
[1:48:22] moving second is on the floor to pass a
resolution to have only informational
[1:48:28] signs only on the diesel property until
election day because then it's a polling
[1:48:35] place
um I will in favor please say aye
[1:48:40] aye as well any opposed I won't vote no
on it
[1:48:45] so four yeses and one no
[1:48:51] okay
[1:48:54] okay moving on to item number D
uh new lease
[1:49:01] uh regarding the uh some property up at
the truck shop I think
[1:49:10] in that vicinity is that where it is
okay I'll explain this
[1:49:14] um what this is right now currently
hillcom has a Tower located on truck
[1:49:18] shop property right now and of course
that acquired that through their
[1:49:21] purchase of DC wind and the other towers
that they bought some they acquired the
[1:49:26] land and some that maybe on County
property you know lease was given to
[1:49:29] them for those Towers
they intend to construct a new tower
[1:49:34] beside of the current Tower a better
Tower to service their customers better
[1:49:38] and during the process of that they were
looking to see what their lease said as
[1:49:43] far as how much land could they build a
new tower beside of their existing Tower
[1:49:47] leave the existing one in service until
the new one's built and remove the
[1:49:51] existing one and they realize they do
not currently have a lease for that
[1:49:54] Tower that's there right now it must
have been an oversized something during
[1:49:57] the process of the sale of DC win I have
a question and I apologize I called you
[1:50:04] on this and I didn't cover this one
talks about utilities on page five or
[1:50:10] page two number five
do we pay for any utilities there no I
[1:50:17] don't think we did but I would think
don't we have equipment on there does
[1:50:21] that get distributed somehow no it does
not even this allows us to look at our
[1:50:26] equipment on there at no charge then the
other question I got would be
[1:50:30] Insurance on page four
[1:50:35] what are we covering because it says
landlords shall attain and keep informed
[1:50:40] keep in force
and shirts
[1:50:54] who directed this one they're keeping us
[1:50:58] do you see why I'm asking I see you
because
[1:51:04] on that
[1:51:07] but I do see what a good thing is they
said they'll list us we just need
[1:51:12] confirmation as a payee but if I'm
reading that right we're the landlord
[1:51:18] but shouldn't it be the least e well
you're reading it right I know what
[1:51:22] you're exactly what you're saying yeah
and I'm sorry I didn't cover this one by
[1:51:27] talking he's at the tower that we're
talking about or is it the property
[1:51:31] we're talking about that's what we need
to be sure on well it's the property
[1:51:37] hours from the real estate would be
covered by vancore
[1:51:42] so maybe it's not an issue I don't know
a man it's not but I know what your
[1:51:48] question is yeah and that's why the only
reason I asked is just to make sure and
[1:51:52] then there's um then go to page five the
bottom of number 16.
[1:52:00] um landlord shall be responsible for any
and all taxes related to the premises
[1:52:06] um
we don't pay taxes on it true
[1:52:12] is there any and that the only reason
I'm bringing this up is there anything
[1:52:16] that
I know the real estate's ours
[1:52:19] is there anything equipment wise
what's premises means the real estate
[1:52:24] yeah yeah no I understand that but I
just wanted uh there's been just through
[1:52:29] the question is there any other taxes
involved in this business
[1:52:33] wouldn't be on us no it shouldn't be and
nothing Machinery tool on the equipment
[1:52:39] itself it would be assessed differently
it wouldn't be deemed the premise we
[1:52:41] don't pay any taxes because it's
tax-free that's the only reason I
[1:52:45] flagged it yeah they would probably pay
a business personal property tax or
[1:52:49] Machinery tool tax on the towels and
sale yeah so I don't know if any of that
[1:52:55] matters I just wondered because um of
the uniqueness of it um
[1:53:02] foreign
[Applause]
[1:53:11] but I know I'm not worried about it I I
think we're okay I just wanted to
[1:53:16] clarify when it said property promises
just means the real estate
[1:53:21] and utilities
they should pay the utilities for their
[1:53:26] equipment
[1:53:29] they have a separate meter and stuff on
there yeah and they bill us for that so
[1:53:34] that for our piece of that okay that's
all I want I want to make sure
[1:53:40] I meant to cover that before this but
I'm fine with it if you guys feel safe
[1:53:47] on it
[1:53:51] all team to answer any of the questions
anybody else may have on this
[1:54:05] okay no other questions do we do I hear
a motion moving forward to approve this
[1:54:14] lease
would we have to do it approve this
[1:54:18] lease based on a couple of word changes
from landlord to Lisi
[1:54:24] like he mentioned there on page
before under the insurance I don't think
[1:54:29] so because Dixon County uh in the
initial word of firmware called the
[1:54:33] landlord according to the definitions in
the first paragraph so oh okay oh is
[1:54:38] there any mowing up there
uh just be what we need to do anyway our
[1:54:42] guys doing number five we're good I'll
move I'm good I guess okay
[1:54:51] I noticed on page one in paragraph one
about premises it says
[1:54:57] um as shown in red on the attached map
Mark to exhibit a and is part uh here
[1:55:04] too there is no exhibit a there was no
nothing else in there will that be
[1:55:09] an attachment to the lease or anything
is that supposed to be a map attached to
[1:55:14] this loose my guess is there was an
original and this is just a renewal
[1:55:19] that's my guess and that exhibit is
going to be with the original no this is
[1:55:22] this is it wasn't original so um we did
not this is what we received in the
[1:55:28] email from Miss Garrett from Freddy's
office
[1:55:31] um
[1:55:34] and wills looked at this and he's good
with it yeah that's all
[1:55:40] okay well we should have the map there
it's referencing it yeah that's that's
[1:55:46] one thing I asked Rick
[1:55:49] okay
[Applause]
[1:55:52] what is the pleasure of the board do we
have a motion to prove this lease with
[1:55:57] for he'll come
I'll make a motion we approve it
[1:56:03] in a second
we have a moving second on the floor to
[1:56:08] approve the lease with he'll come at the
Dickinson County truck shop Road tower
[1:56:13] all in favor please say aye aye as well
any opposed okay
[1:56:19] um number e is five different I guess
one at a time uh lease renewals that we
[1:56:27] have
uh the first one would be clinchco Free
[1:56:31] Will Baptist Church
comments
[1:56:35] yeah I got some um and I and this is
kind of pertaining to the rest of them
[1:56:41] too and some of them we identify who's
responsible for mowing and stuff like
[1:56:46] that some of them have insurance some of
them don't
[1:56:51] um
one key thing with this next one
[1:56:55] is it indicates that if there ever comes
a time where the it reverts back to us
[1:57:01] as ownership
we have to if they've repaved the
[1:57:07] the parking lot we have to
with um considering um what a
[1:57:13] depreciation appreciation pay them for
that night I just don't think we should
[1:57:18] be doing that I think if they choose to
make improvements we're we're giving it
[1:57:22] to them
Bargain Basement because there's no
[1:57:25] money really involved it just if they
want to make improvements
[1:57:31] they're there with improvements and
and they they very much got to leave it
[1:57:40] but but I also mention those other
things because I think that these other
[1:57:46] leases we should thank our knees we
should have
[1:57:49] will look at them and we need to clean
them up to make sure we've covered all
[1:57:54] those areas mowing if it's applicable
and state if it isn't it
[1:57:59] insurance first
what's that it says they will not do
[1:58:06] anything without approaching us they
give the
[1:58:10] I would love to make a motion that we
approved to clinchco Free Will Baptist
[1:58:14] Church property at least to them
[1:58:27] okay we have a moving second on the
floor any comments
[1:58:31] no I I really think we should be
cleaning this stuff up
[1:58:35] as we go through this
that's you know and that's the reason I
[1:58:40] pointed these things out um
is there any insurance requirements not
[1:58:46] in this one there's not what if someone
falls on the pavement worthy landowner
[1:58:52] you know those kind of things
we have a responsibility to protect the
[1:58:57] county
[1:58:59] what's it going to hurt if we let our
lawyer clean these things up and get
[1:59:05] them right
if that's necessary we'll probably clean
[1:59:09] them up and get them right
see the same problem with himself let's
[1:59:14] just move on
when did the 1999 is the first lease
[1:59:20] that we had with clinchco yes ma'am so
it's been going on 23 years yeah it is
[1:59:26] but a lot of things have been going on
for years I understand and we didn't and
[1:59:31] we didn't um realize it or then we read
through it and we doesn't mean we
[1:59:36] shouldn't improve things as we go along
we we didn't know we had gas tanks
[1:59:41] buried at the fire department we didn't
know um that our
[1:59:46] um
our social services building was on
[1:59:49] someone else's land as we'll look at
these
[1:59:54] you want me to call her and get him you
want to we want to post table it and
[1:59:58] later I just thought we'd table it and
we haven't really had a motion and a
[2:00:02] second on the floor Madam chair yes I
know that yeah
[2:00:07] which one there is a moving second on
the floor on this one let's go free will
[2:00:10] we bought yeah that's the one we moved
[2:00:15] it's will look he can look them up clean
them up if he wants to let's go ahead
[2:00:19] and vote him in like a used to put this
off
[2:00:30] moving second on the floor to approve
this lease with clinch Cofer Will
[2:00:34] Baptist Church all in favor please say
aye aye
[2:00:39] so four yeses and one no okay
[2:00:45] are you trying to get hold of will to be
here
[2:00:50] well we've got oh we got four more four
more I'd like to make a motion that we
[2:00:55] approved the one for Richard and um
Rita Edwards I think it's where we put a
[2:01:02] recycling centers recycling bin down
there it's not currently being used but
[2:01:07] we could use it in the future so yeah
we just keep the lease so we if we ever
[2:01:12] get one we can put it back down there
so it's basically not used unless we put
[2:01:17] something there right it's our correct
we put a recycling thing there if we
[2:01:22] have it okay okay
we have a motion on the floor to approve
[2:01:27] this lease a second
[2:01:30] okay moving second on the floor to
improve the lease with Richard and Rita
[2:01:35] Edwards down at uh hayside all in favor
please say aye aye as well
[2:01:41] okay how many
[2:01:45] man I'm trying to make a motion that we
approve Yates Free Will Baptist Church
[2:01:48] lease it's a playground that they
use up there and it's our voting place
[2:01:55] I make a motion that we approve that one
second
[2:02:03] moving second on the floor to approve
the lease with the Yates Chapel church
[2:02:08] trustees any comments
here in none all in favor please say yes
[2:02:17] Mark me down for now
yes for you okay
[2:02:23] four yeses and one knows on that
number four Cumberland Pine Mountain
[2:02:29] trail riding club
place
[2:02:34] found here I make a motion that we
approve this lease with Cumberland Pine
[2:02:38] Mountain Trail Riders association my
second emotion
[2:02:46] okay we have a moving second on the
floor any further comment
[2:02:52] yeah I would say that's the one I'm fine
with because we did rework it with our
[2:02:56] attorney the last time it came to that's
kind of the reason I brought up these
[2:03:00] other ones
so
[2:03:04] okay all in favor please say aye aye aye
as well so five yeses on that
[2:03:11] moving on to number five the Four County
Transit
[2:03:16] are they increasing their what we pay
them every month it's the same thing
[2:03:20] that was in our budget I pull it back
sure the six thousand dollars is what we
[2:03:24] uh before but I just split into two
there's two different parts one is for
[2:03:28] the uh like the college one is for the
senior citizens that's ASC and the other
[2:03:34] locks for the college but since in two
different places on our budget so okay
[2:03:39] yeah I think I'll make a motion when you
approve the Four County Transit I see
[2:03:43] I'm saving more than he segment I got a
I got some comments I would like to ask
[2:03:49] them I don't think I covered this either
with you but
[2:03:53] um
is there maybe we don't need to do all
[2:03:57] that but these are people that are
transporting our citizens
[2:04:01] are they involved in some kind of drug
testing program just a question
[2:04:06] I honestly don't know but I would think
well I don't know because it's not
[2:04:10] matching in there that's the only thing
if they have to have a CDL then they
[2:04:13] would have to be said yeah
page two under drivers number two all
[2:04:19] drivers will be subject to the drug and
alcohol testing program by the Federal
[2:04:24] Transit that's good Administration good
I missed that thank you that's all I
[2:04:28] wanted to make sure okay
and then anybody with CDLs yeah but do
[2:04:34] you have to have CDL dropping buses yes
you do
[2:04:40] I just wanted to make sure yeah there
and I missed it because it was covered
[2:04:45] in an area that I didn't think good I'm
good
[2:04:48] okay
we have a moving second on the floor to
[2:04:53] approve the um lease with the four
County
[2:04:58] uh
uh Four County Transit all in favor
[2:05:01] please say aye aye
aye as well
[2:05:05] okay moving on to F heyside volunteer
fire department arpa request Mr Barton
[2:05:12] would you want that one yes Madam chair
uh if I'm out on this uh and speaking
[2:05:17] with Mr wood from ASI volunteer fire
department he has sent me two request uh
[2:05:22] this one was urgent in nature as the
reason it's included in our package
[2:05:26] other uh Hill to our next Workshop but
as you know they were involved in an
[2:05:31] accident back in May I think it was and
they thought that their pumper was
[2:05:35] totaled but it actually done 103 000
worth of damage to the truck uh it is in
[2:05:40] Roanoke right now to be repaired and
they're trying to get parts for it
[2:05:43] there's a delay in getting parts the
county received a check from the
[2:05:46] insurance company and uh Mr wood
indicated to me that you know let's hold
[2:05:51] that until the truck's repaired in
Roanoke and he'll coordinate that with
[2:05:54] me and we can send payment directly to
the shop doing the repairs on that at
[2:05:58] the same time so they're down one truck
there their tanker truck is also down
[2:06:02] right now and the estimate is about 5
thousand dollars to get it repaired and
[2:06:08] basically they don't have funds to
get their other truck out and they're
[2:06:13] basically half of a fleet right now
in trying to respond to fires and do
[2:06:18] things I know this morning the fire on
breaks Park Road I think you all had a
[2:06:22] chair for Scotty I think Prater
responded and along with Hasa and is
[2:06:27] that rod
and apply parade real place we had three
[2:06:31] that responded to that to help because
Hayes down on equipment right now they
[2:06:35] really need their tanker and what kind
of put them in a bind too they had to
[2:06:39] put a new roof on their station which
cost them eight thousand dollars
[2:06:43] and uh their air packs are due a test
right now and it's going to cost them
[2:06:48] four thousand dollars to have them
uh retested and approved and and
[2:06:54] basically they don't have the money to
do these things they're asking for
[2:06:57] seventeen thousand dollars for us to
help them out
[2:07:00] so
I told Rocky I'll put that in the packet
[2:07:03] this time for discussion
um
[2:07:06] by the board in consideration by the
board
[2:07:10] sorry yes
[2:07:14] we have a spark up front that we have at
our station and we'd be willing to loan
[2:07:19] it too until we get through other route
be very helpful if it's one of all those
[2:07:24] trucks and that's one thing I want to
talk to Annie about was uh we have a
[2:07:28] spare truck now so I was wanting to
relocated to a different location like
[2:07:31] equivalent hazards on panty Ridge I
would like to put one on rosaries but
[2:07:35] this time we'll let hayside Oregon
that's right
[2:07:39] that's great you're very helpful if you
break up Rocky on that I'm sure that'd
[2:07:43] be a big help to them so we talked about
that Larry did we we did yeah yeah thank
[2:07:48] you very much for your will and your
Department's willingness to do that
[2:07:53] board have any questions or anything
else on the
[2:07:56] request I'll try to answer what I can
I've had a couple conversations with
[2:08:01] Rocky
I'll make a motion when you approve this
[2:08:04] request
[2:08:11] okay we have emotion on the floor to
reprove approve the offer request by
[2:08:17] hayside volunteer fire department do I
hear a second
[2:08:28] foreign
[2:08:41] second or motion and second on the floor
to fund the Bob through our arfa funds
[2:08:47] the hayside volunteer fire department
request all in favor please say aye aye
[2:08:52] any opposed
[2:08:55] okay moving on to G
aveco annual conference approval which
[2:09:03] is being held I think in Richmond this
year around November
[2:09:08] 13th 14th range somewhere through there
never think many Church November 13th
[2:09:13] through the 15th
it is uh in your packet there the
[2:09:17] information that came the registration
form uh we included it in the packet and
[2:09:22] I know our clerk Miss Lyle has sent an
email out a couple times asking you know
[2:09:26] if any members would be interested in
attending this and uh to date I think Mr
[2:09:31] Peter is the only one that responded
that was interested in attending the uh
[2:09:34] the conference this year uh Miss less
indicated to me that you know she might
[2:09:39] have an interest in it as well is that
greatness you don't know about
[2:09:43] it was not the current situations
[2:09:47] to go because my husband and so forth
I would like to go but I don't think I
[2:09:54] can right now or then and So based upon
our uh
[2:09:59] updated travel
um policy that we done last year or
[2:10:05] actually things earlier this year maybe
January February something like that any
[2:10:09] travel within the county it goes through
kind of a two-step process there's a
[2:10:13] forum an authorization form that's
completed it's signed off by the
[2:10:16] supervisor in that department and then
is forwarded to me for approval and my
[2:10:21] approval is basically looking to make
sure we have budgeted funds to cover
[2:10:24] those trips
then it's returned and once they take
[2:10:28] their trip and come back they submit a
reimbursement form that shows what their
[2:10:33] actual expenses were and all everything
is verified that it's an eligible
[2:10:38] expense but if it's a board member
travel uh on that that's kind of above
[2:10:43] my head that I can't approve and we
decided during our policy that those
[2:10:46] would come back to the full form for
consideration on that so looking at the
[2:10:50] conference it would be
um November 13th through the 15th but it
[2:10:56] would be two nights
and attending the conference for two
[2:10:59] days the 14th and 15th and the total
estimated cost uh or maximum cost
[2:11:05] basically would be the registration the
fuel for a County vehicle uh two nights
[2:11:10] in a hotel and then the mules based on
the meal allowance would be 928 dollars
[2:11:16] on that and if Mr Peters goes then I
guess I will go with him on that we
[2:11:22] route the same vehicle and things so
mine would be a little less but um
[2:11:25] except for the board's consideration
this is one conference that I attended
[2:11:30] last year I think it was and you have no
free time
[2:11:34] I mean meetings are eight o'clock in the
morning until five in the evening and
[2:11:38] then if you're going back to the dinner
it's at six you you you don't you're not
[2:11:43] outrun the roads and there's meetings
there's meetings from one room to one
[2:11:49] room
I mean it's
[2:11:52] they keep you busy and you can't go to
everything no because there's more
[2:11:58] there's two or three things going out on
at once so what we do is we split up so
[2:12:03] one goes to one meeting and now there's
those the other
[2:12:07] I just think they should move it back
halfway through the stage we used to
[2:12:12] have it in Bath County all the time that
wasn't too bad for us
[2:12:17] but now they're having an enrichment in
Norfolk and I don't think that's right I
[2:12:22] think isn't Norfolk still under
renovation I thought I heard that yeah I
[2:12:27] thought Norfolk uh or not Norfolk but I
mean it's still under Renovations
[2:12:32] did they say last year that it would
probably go back there in another couple
[2:12:36] of years once Renovations was done they
thought Richmond this year and then back
[2:12:40] to Homestead next year is what they
thought last year so that's what I
[2:12:44] thought that they said
[2:12:46] foreign
[2:12:56] motion and a second to approve
Mr Peters and possibly
[2:13:02] um
Mr Martin attending this
[2:13:08] I attended last year but I'm having knee
surgery and I can't go
[2:13:13] there's not even thought of me trying to
go this time
[2:13:22] they're very informative meetings but I
don't want to go
[2:13:30] being there done that I don't want to go
do we have a move in second to approve
[2:13:37] I'll make a movie approve it
for those two those to attend
[2:13:43] we're members we paid those into the bay
code yes
[2:13:48] Rebecca
do I hear a second
[2:13:53] I'll second it
[2:13:57] have a moving second on the floor to
approve the vaco annual conference to be
[2:14:01] held in Richmond on November 13th
through the 15th all in favor please say
[2:14:06] aye aye aye as well India post opposed
[2:14:12] okay four yeses and one no
moving on down to number eight the
[2:14:18] transfer station schedule
happened
[2:14:23] okay
you have
[2:14:27] dude let me read this off or you got
comments I didn't know Madam chair I
[2:14:33] think Mr Evans requested to put this on
the agenda and after that I don't know
[2:14:38] if he talks about the transfer station
or whatever but Toby sent me this report
[2:14:41] so maybe you talked to the guys or
something they'll be rich out to me and
[2:14:45] wanted to share the last time they were
open on Saturday what their volume was
[2:14:48] uh on that so and I understand those
numbers and it's hard to correlate
[2:14:56] the grapping and complaining in the
community with these numbers nonetheless
[2:15:01] I do it just seems to me to be common
sense to offer at least a half a day
[2:15:07] Saturday option I mean I don't you know
I work all day I don't know if I needed
[2:15:11] to go to the transfer station I couldn't
go on a weekday it's either miss a court
[2:15:16] appearance or miss something and have to
go so as a suggestion I would say and
[2:15:22] this is the other thing I want to point
out
[2:15:25] the other concern here is if someone
comes in Friday and fills it up the
[2:15:29] truck
then if they can't take no more well I
[2:15:33] mean then you shut down I mean I get
that well why can't guarantee that a lot
[2:15:40] we can support our ferment according to
what Toby tell me is or for me it's the
[2:15:44] way we're permitted we can't leave trash
on the floor we can't have a place for a
[2:15:48] dumpster like outside the gates or or we
could have the truck shop have you
[2:15:52] studied the schedule piece of this
anymore
[2:15:54] as far as looking at beyond what we
talked about I think we'd have to have
[2:15:58] like a part-time person to float out
like a regular another idea would be off
[2:16:03] maybe we flexed the one Friday night or
whatever day of the week a month and so
[2:16:10] it's open later what do we have to do we
have to change I don't think where I go
[2:16:16] and again it's hard for me to correlate
and well this was 14 years ago right
[2:16:23] um
so it's hard to believe it's been that
[2:16:25] it's been that long since I did Saturday
so I don't think it's been that long ago
[2:16:28] yeah Dale I was there at the meeting I
wasn't on the board then when they
[2:16:32] opened it up
and then uh after and Shelby you were on
[2:16:37] the board
you guys carried it for a while and then
[2:16:40] it became evident that it really wasn't
utilized very much Madam chairman speak
[2:16:45] yes
my idea is to have a walk through they
[2:16:52] could walk through
just a small walkway to walk through to
[2:16:56] take household garbage only
not back a truck up and unload Lumber or
[2:17:03] whatever household
uh messy house so well just uh trash
[2:17:10] only just bag trash on a walk through it
that's what we have at Yates Chapel
[2:17:17] playground we have a walk through and we
keep the gate locked keep ATVs out
[2:17:22] and are you suggesting this at the truck
shop yes I'm suggesting maybe
[2:17:27] transportation
[2:17:30] I mean at the transfer station well no
that would be something important maybe
[2:17:36] up at the truck shop itself they have a
garbage bin out there yes
[2:17:40] if they had just a small walkway in that
you can't get a vehicle through you have
[2:17:45] to walk through and put a bag of garbage
in
[2:17:49] yeah are you talking about at the
transfer station I'm talking about
[2:17:54] they have a garbage can up there
[2:17:58] um
[2:18:04] uh problem is somebody getting in there
and
[2:18:07] it's a Mischief I guess
well that's the only thing that Madam
[2:18:12] chair
I and I like the idea but
[2:18:16] I don't know that
it may solve some of it but I think
[2:18:20] we're going to see most of this need is
is if someone's working a project that
[2:18:25] they're exactly right and they um and
they have to be able to now for this to
[2:18:30] have a walk through in the transfer
station we'd have to check because
[2:18:33] there's probably some security things
and we get we you know because those are
[2:18:38] under alarms
and stuff that we would have to
[2:18:43] approach and I don't know I think we
could always put up a camera chair at
[2:18:47] this point I'm making a motion that we
instruct our County Administrator to
[2:18:52] open the transfer station a half a day
on Saturday that's my motion
[2:18:57] and then if it does work in three months
well that's what I'm saying
[2:19:03] do we know that I know it's a problem
because I have more attraction out of
[2:19:07] everything I hear about it
and we're trying to find I don't want it
[2:19:11] hanging around my garage that long
so
[2:19:14] you know a lot of people sleep over here
in Clintwood and use theirs and it's a
[2:19:19] mess up there I haven't been up there I
don't use it but nevertheless I think we
[2:19:24] could try it for a little while see how
it goes
[2:19:28] how often I said every Saturday from 9
to 12.
[2:19:34] for three months
I said we just leave I mean we could
[2:19:38] always bring it back on the agenda I
wouldn't put any if it doesn't work yeah
[2:19:42] I mean it could all anytime be put back
on the agenda if it does we can extend
[2:19:46] it
[2:19:48] is
[Music]
[2:19:51] coordinate with uh Toby with the Waste
Authority because our families
[2:19:57] that's the other thing the permit to
four minutes and Friday is what he just
[2:20:03] sent me a message or just a second ago
but we'll tell them to check it I mean I
[2:20:06] don't know let's check on it I'm seeing
we can do it we'll check because this
[2:20:08] process you know whatever oops we have
to jump through and we do like what an
[2:20:12] h12 maybe to give them a four hour
[2:20:16] got to hire someone too
uh if it's just a half day then it's
[2:20:21] possible we could uh one and a part-time
we can list my off you know Mr if we had
[2:20:27] to reduce the holidays because they
didn't want to work on holidays so
[2:20:31] they're not going to work on Saturday
either well we had three off today I
[2:20:36] miss you have to have two people there
we had 120 people there
[2:20:41] one of the three full-timers off like a
half you know half day on Friday and one
[2:20:46] off a half day on Monday or something
the same week you could do something to
[2:20:52] get your people there on Saturday
without having to try to hire additional
[2:20:55] help so why can't we I know we went over
this
[2:20:59] ad nauseam and I don't want to start it
now but at least right now Waukee we
[2:21:05] have a community service worker down
there with a an employee do they do that
[2:21:09] on weekends yeah they'll do whatever we
tell them to or whatever the case tells
[2:21:12] them
to tell someone from the sheriff's
[2:21:15] department to have to watch it no it
doesn't okay I'm just asking
[2:21:20] Derek Eric
I think you could you just have to have
[2:21:23] you know a certified operator there in
the scales and smack them running the
[2:21:27] letters
with I guess bony or whoever's or I
[2:21:32] guess maybe uh Toby
and they'll work out those details but
[2:21:36] he can do it on a Saturday well the
reason I brought that up is a few years
[2:21:40] ago we talked about using those guys or
something and there was a snag with the
[2:21:45] weekends that's why as far as it because
they know something wrong which I'll
[2:21:51] admitted if I am but they will do it
again
[2:21:53] I'm not sure of anything we tried we
talked about it had to do with um
[2:21:59] it was your idea of Josh you wanted to
handle the bathrooms
[2:22:03] but we've got go ahead I'm sorry you you
wanted to use those guys for something
[2:22:07] that would involve oh it was the cleanup
of the parks the bathrooms that's where
[2:22:12] the grass yeah that's what you're saying
yeah
[2:22:15] and that because the problem with the
weekends I know for a fact they're
[2:22:19] begging for locations and things for
these people to do so
[2:22:24] I don't see
if that I mean I don't see it being a
[2:22:27] problem but
everything we do seems like there's a
[2:22:30] problem but I don't see it as I'm
sitting here how it could be a problem
[2:22:37] and I'm not trying to enter with that
but I mean it was a problem so well I'm
[2:22:43] just saying let Larry and Derek and Toby
figure it out I'm saying I want and my
[2:22:48] motion is that we offer a Saturday hours
for our taxpayers and people that work
[2:22:52] full-time jobs to be able to take their
trash if it comes up in six months they
[2:22:56] don't use it or we can't man it then
okay we'll put it back on the agenda but
[2:23:01] that's my motion Madam chair
[2:23:05] Larry and Derek
figure out how and told me how to figure
[2:23:10] out it may take two or three weeks
you know y'all voted in then we'll
[2:23:15] definitely find a way to make it work
it's definitely a problem because I live
[2:23:18] on County Ridge and I think ran overs
are you know sit your garbage out once a
[2:23:22] week I do but something about honey I
got more garbage now they ever had I
[2:23:26] don't know why it is okay we have a
moving second on the floor uh to
[2:23:32] um
uh allowed the transfer station or work
[2:23:35] out an agreement to get the or a plan to
get the transfer station open to Hypha
[2:23:41] day on Saturday from 8 to 12 right nine
my suggestions nine to twelve nine to
[2:23:47] twelve okay but I would like to if I
made Madam chair and we don't have our
[2:23:51] Council here but I would leave it that's
my suggestion but subject to Mr Barton
[2:23:55] he may figure something out that's
better or I don't want that to be in
[2:23:59] concrete half a day maybe half a day
however Mr Martin can coordinate it okay
[2:24:04] all right all in favor please say aye
aye aye as well I don't know until I see
[2:24:09] how that comes back my words no answer
[2:24:18] three yeses and two no's on that we'll
get started on that and see what we can
[2:24:21] get worked out as quickly as we can
okay uh I the added item for the
[2:24:30] resolution for come on Plateau planning
district Commission
[2:24:34] and that's a loose item that was
attached to the adhesive yeah
[2:24:39] this is uh uh probably kicking a dead
horse that I've kicked every meeting for
[2:24:46] three years but I'm going to continue to
kick it and stomp it uh this is a
[2:24:51] resolution that I drafted there's typos
in it because I was in a rush to get it
[2:24:54] to Teresa by Friday or excuse me by
Thursday this
[2:25:00] uh piggybacks on the problem that we
faced as a board collectively since we
[2:25:05] all took office
and that's internet connections to our
[2:25:09] families in Dickinson County and I'm not
going to be a broken record you all
[2:25:13] heard this we've all heard this we've
done everything we can do to try to get
[2:25:17] information to Citizens and families
about when where
[2:25:22] and what provider is available to
families in Dickinson County and as I
[2:25:27] sit here today being a almost three-year
member of this board I can't
[2:25:33] tell any of my constituents any concrete
information about when where what kind
[2:25:41] what provider is going to come to their
residence on pound River in bar pan on
[2:25:47] Camp Creek in 6 on 611 in tivis three
years
[2:25:52] we've spent money we spent our own money
we've done everything we can do we
[2:25:57] brought Scotty Wampler here he told us
nothing I like Scotty this is not a shot
[2:26:01] of Scotty we've I've wrote letters I've
withdrawn from the board I've done
[2:26:06] everything that I know to do to help my
people and that's what I took an oath to
[2:26:11] do and that's what I'm trying to do so
this resolution we give Cumberland
[2:26:17] Plateau planning district commission
almost ten thousand well almost nine
[2:26:20] thousand dollars quarterly we get and I
know you that was a swipe you done
[2:26:24] earlier that the sewer the sewers run
right by Kiwanis for a hundred years
[2:26:28] they've had sewer and hayside since so
you're excited let me finish
[2:26:33] and they're getting and we can pay out
of that nine thousand dollars for you to
[2:26:37] go to Portland for you to go to Alaska
and we get nothing
[2:26:42] why can we why can't I tell my family on
bearpen when they can have internet for
[2:26:48] their kid to go to school why can't you
get me that answer for 500 a month and
[2:26:52] trips across to Alaska and Florida and
Portland everywhere else why can't I
[2:26:56] learn that so my resolution is that we
actually do something take action send
[2:27:03] them a resolution and say we want this
information we want to know when you our
[2:27:09] citizens that pay taxes that fund this
planning district commission when we're
[2:27:16] going to get the internet that you took
our grant money from that we've tried to
[2:27:20] get for three years when are we going to
get it that's a formal concrete move
[2:27:24] that this resolution doesn't take the
money away it says though if we don't
[2:27:29] get the information we are going to take
the money away
[2:27:32] and so with this board is too cowardly
or if you like your Portland trip so
[2:27:37] much or your 500 a month stopping so
much and are too scared to do it then
[2:27:42] that's fine but I'm not going to sit
back and be critiqued for three years
[2:27:46] I've told my citizens I'm going to try
to get you internet and for three years
[2:27:51] the board you sit on that pays you 500 a
month that sends you across the country
[2:27:55] hasn't given so that's my movement that
we approve this resolution
[2:28:03] Shelby you can go first Ron you follow
Shelby you know
[2:28:09] one Broadband is a private organization
they have the grants for all Dickinson
[2:28:16] County the Four County
no one can get a grant in Dickinson
[2:28:20] County other than Point Broadband they
have body one body one is a two-year
[2:28:26] grant that
they use the body one first then they
[2:28:31] use body two and I want to clarify who
contracts with Point Broadband body one
[2:28:36] yeah
I couldn't care less I'm speaking to you
[2:28:41] well who contracts with Point broadband
[2:28:46] who contracts with Point Broadway
[2:28:51] it's a private company they give us lots
of information you
[2:28:56] and we're supposed to have body one
completed by
[2:29:01] 2024. am I correct and two by early 20s
and then the next is Marty two they have
[2:29:08] two years to do body two but they are
way ahead of schedule I can tell you
[2:29:13] that
um
[2:29:16] internet is not fast I can tell you I
was born five years getting it in my
[2:29:22] district from one didn't you say your
son just got starlink and he's on Kenny
[2:29:28] Ridge you don't have nothing is that not
an embarrassment no because it would be
[2:29:32] to me Scott County's Grand only did not
allow them to cross another
[2:29:39] uh provider
my son lives were Comcast is
[2:29:44] uh Scott County could not cross them
with their Grant because they their
[2:29:51] Grant would not allow them so uh I know
your frustration but it's just like me
[2:29:57] asking you to give me a list of all your
clients no that's confidential
[2:30:01] Cumberland plateau and point Broadband
get taxpayer money
[2:30:06] from the Virginia telephonic
communication initiative is tax money
[2:30:11] and you and your board vote to contract
with Point broadband and they do nothing
[2:30:17] and you're sitting here defending it
where's body one where is that going can
[2:30:21] you tell me that for 500 a month where
is Body one where's that being get 500 a
[2:30:27] month how much do you get 200 a month
okay we're there four times a month
[2:30:32] we've been there four times a month well
where is Body one connecting families in
[2:30:37] Dickinson County can you or Ron tell me
that
[2:30:41] well I do know that they've connected
some in Ron's history
[2:30:48] is that a coincidence
the Yankton River like not 611. they're
[2:30:53] not tivas
bad term America
[2:30:56] yes I flush right with two I stopped
these fillers and asked them what
[2:31:00] they're doing and they're they're part
my Brad has contracted out to a
[2:31:05] contractor they contracted out to
another contractor that's what they're
[2:31:08] doing to get it done Josh you can't get
no you can't get no clear answer to save
[2:31:13] your life I mean I I found River I'm not
compound River barefoot in Cave Creek uh
[2:31:19] Miss slush you missed the last common
Plateau meeting that we had in the
[2:31:23] breaks that we sponsored well there's no
point you can get information I don't
[2:31:28] know why I Shelby but I had to go back
look I didn't miss it when that's my
[2:31:32] turn you've missed a lot of meetings
this weekend and I've been a lot of
[2:31:36] things this weekend as I recall
okay
[2:31:43] but I try to participate and you're
gonna throw up something like that City
[2:31:48] I did I had I have sickness in my family
shelving but nevertheless uh I'm not I'm
[2:31:55] not this I'm not I don't think there's
my law that we can withhold money can we
[2:32:00] absolutely we are and we don't I can
call the attorney we appropriate the
[2:32:05] money we can vote to withhold we pay
them every month uh Larry it's 35 000 a
[2:32:11] year we divide that into four payments a
little less nine thousand dollars each
[2:32:15] year I'm not I'm not I'm not I'm not
going to get I'm not getting mad about
[2:32:20] it I'm just saying that it is very
frustrating I'm like Josh that we can't
[2:32:26] get no answer from from them it is
frustrating I'm gonna let Ron's because
[2:32:33] let me just clarify some things yes
Scotty Wampler came and spoke and he
[2:32:39] explained everything then oh we didn't
yes he did no we didn't and here's the
[2:32:44] thing okay I'm speaking though okay
now listen
[2:32:50] I'll point you know you said you beat a
dead horse for it's now three years two
[2:32:56] years of that you were on the board and
you didn't show up to any of the
[2:32:59] meetings hardly because it was a waste
of my time yeah
[2:33:03] that's your best opportunity to voice
now some things I'm going to point out
[2:33:08] to you
in your resolution
[2:33:11] CPC holds millions of dollars a grant
funding awarded through the Virginia
[2:33:15] telecommunications initiative
CPC facilitated the graph but it's
[2:33:22] coming it is point Broadband that gets
those monies the CPC just manages it as
[2:33:29] a pay down they're not holding on to any
money
[2:33:32] and then you go on to the next page you
want to withhold their money
[2:33:37] and and here's the thing last month we
just got a hundred thousand dollars from
[2:33:44] CPC for Water Project up on low gap you
go to the corner low gap and Edwards
[2:33:50] Ridge and there's a big sign that's
going to help that project
[2:33:54] in the last since CPC has been on the
book since 1962 1968 to 2022
[2:34:03] for the four counties it's helped
facilitate over 200 million dollars 202
[2:34:10] 201 million dollars to the four counties
for water projects and part of this
[2:34:16] internet thing that you're talking about
it was CPC that worked with the Economic
[2:34:23] Development Authority to get the funds
to initially put the fiber highways
[2:34:29] through the four counties now the thing
was when they did that they were not
[2:34:34] allowed to give it to Citizens it was
for businesses only Economic Development
[2:34:40] park it they had a 10-year relationship
with bvu where they were supposed to be
[2:34:45] getting revenues and it wasn't happening
so that or this started to shake loose
[2:34:52] and they reached out to a private
company
[2:34:55] to run this and that private company to
get a private company to come in they're
[2:35:01] contractually not required to give us
any information
[2:35:04] body one was lit and I explained this
last time with no contingencies for them
[2:35:11] to develop anything when body two starts
they are going to require
[2:35:16] Point Broadband to provide kind of a
dashboard that shows us where they're
[2:35:21] hooking up we are all frustrated that we
haven't seen a lot of activity
[2:35:27] on this because they're they're going
around four different counties
[2:35:31] installing and they haven't sat in one
District they've been doubting clinchco
[2:35:36] they've been over in Clintwood have
installed cabinets and stuff
[2:35:41] which way I'm not done yet but you're
you're sitting there making these
[2:35:47] accusations and he told you that that
last meeting Scotty briefed you 10
[2:35:53] million dollars worth of money came to
this County in the 10 years they've been
[2:35:58] there
so they've been working these things all
[2:36:02] along and you mentioned the sewer pipe
running alongside the road
[2:36:07] did you ever ask yourself if that sewer
pipe was it big enough to carry the
[2:36:12] activities of the fair versus the prison
system
[2:36:15] there's a little more cost involved in
that day and that's why I mentioned that
[2:36:19] they got a hundred thousand dollars to
expand sewer over there so you're trying
[2:36:25] to attack these but water and sewer but
it's mainly sewer look at it
[2:36:33] we gave them a hundred thousand hours
[2:36:38] the thing is
come on plateau
[2:36:43] has been working diligently for all our
four counties for all those years and
[2:36:49] you're wanting to withhold their funding
and cut our hands off from it yes and
[2:36:54] and you're at you're mad because if
you're gonna do this your resolution
[2:36:59] should go to point Broadband because
contractually cover a plateau cannot
[2:37:04] stop it can I ask a question and then
and the other one I would send it to is
[2:37:09] dhcd
because they're the ones managing body
[2:37:14] and I think dxc's you know you mentioned
my conference as I told you this before
[2:37:19] one of the key things I brought up in
those conferences to those funders if
[2:37:24] it's taxpayer money going into this
we should be able to see what's going on
[2:37:29] and you know what they're listening
because that's going into body tubes
[2:37:33] contract
but there's also the other piece that
[2:37:37] point broadband's got millions of
dollars invested in this too so they're
[2:37:42] a private entity
and more power to you if you're going to
[2:37:46] try to force their hand my ask Mr
Peter's a question yes
[2:37:50] true or false Cumberland Plateau
contracts with Point broadband no they
[2:37:55] don't have that track so we're having a
contract
[2:37:57] with
you're going to sit here's a boardwalker
[2:38:01] so you don't have contracts we go back
and forth with them there was a contract
[2:38:05] for the fiber Network and who got to
take that over and that happened last
[2:38:10] time so you're telling me that the 16
million dollars that was just awarded
[2:38:14] the Cumberland Plateau planning district
commission from vadi that you have
[2:38:19] discretion on who to award that to
no we have to award at the point pursue
[2:38:25] it to what a contract agreement that you
voted on the agreement of the network
[2:38:31] it's a joke the people of this County
end up and this is what I'm doing to
[2:38:37] this nonsense you just talked for 30
minutes in a circle you as a Cumberland
[2:38:42] Plateau planning district executive
member voted to go into contract with
[2:38:46] Point Broadband Point Broadband has our
money they're not telling us anything
[2:38:50] our citizens and our children and our
families are suffering and you're the
[2:38:55] root cause of it and I'm putting forth
this resolution to try to do something
[2:38:59] about it okay let me tell you when that
contract was left the Tobacco Commission
[2:39:05] was at every meeting
the legislators were there and VRA was
[2:39:11] there because this whole bvu deal had
people going to jail
[2:39:16] and it when it came down to was a oh
the they had they came down because they
[2:39:24] needed to get this moved out of bvu's
hands
[2:39:27] can you tell me how many connections
have been done this year can you tell me
[2:39:31] that I didn't bring that with me it was
2 000 I think they said 2 000
[2:39:35] connections passing in Dickinson Kansas
because that's different than
[2:39:40] connections what's the difference it
means they they write the infrastructure
[2:39:45] to go into the house you know so how
many residential connections
[2:39:50] residents and they're they're going back
as they can hook and hooking them up now
[2:39:56] you also implied that I had a say on
where they go I have no faith we have
[2:40:01] nothing if you tell me that you have a
question on someone I can reach out and
[2:40:06] see if they can tell me about that a
million times and never gotten any
[2:40:09] information I've seen them answer you
some emails
[2:40:14] Mr Barton can I ask a question to do a
comparison to say if I'm understanding
[2:40:19] this
Cumberland Plateau is awarded the money
[2:40:24] and they get the money on a drawdown
yeah
[2:40:27] went from dhcd or wherever it comes from
when Point Broadband turns them in a
[2:40:34] bill so they're basically the manager of
the the money right just the same way as
[2:40:39] the county is on the tremel project
no not I mean you're lost
[2:40:49] we have to prepay and then we get real
yeah
[2:40:53] I was just doing a comparison to see how
it operated but but no come on Plateau
[2:40:59] is not sitting there with 16 million
dollars in their checking account to pay
[2:41:03] Point Broadband Excuse me yes they are
no they're not
[2:41:08] or is the 16 million dollar body grant
that they got then they just got the
[2:41:12] grant they have to drop down the money
does the work no that is percent but
[2:41:17] that's my understanding
and this is what is going on no matter
[2:41:21] if it's a drawdown or not they still got
the money
[2:41:25] what do you mean my bank account's a
drawdown account I don't draw it down
[2:41:28] until I spend it but they can't drop
down to a point Broadband or whoever the
[2:41:32] contractor is gives them a bill and says
we have done this work and who enters
[2:41:37] into the contract with Point broadband
do you think that just magically happens
[2:41:41] that's fine I think it's not I think
it's going to dhtv camera plateau and
[2:41:46] point Broadband Cumberland Plateau was
the applicant on the body they are and
[2:41:51] they are they listed on their
application and I'll be happy to find it
[2:41:55] right now because it's real Handy they
listed Point Broadband as their provider
[2:41:59] on the application it is because they're
showing the network so they're in
[2:42:04] control they have half ownership into
all that fiber it's called This is
[2:42:09] called Buck passing it's what you're
doing passing the buck and not having a
[2:42:13] backbone to do something to help your
family I brought it up numerous meetings
[2:42:19] and we'll listen to me hard by now we we
harp on it every month and well so why
[2:42:26] don't we do something about it this is
doing something about it you can't force
[2:42:30] what you're trying to do is attack the
organization it is trying to help us and
[2:42:35] you need to go after Point Broadband
maybe dhcd and ask them
[2:42:39] okay what if I rephrase the resolution
to ask them to contract with somebody
[2:42:43] besides Point Broadband will that please
you that's already been signed then it's
[2:42:49] it's not going to help because right now
the fiber infrastructure that goes
[2:42:53] through our counties is 50 well I have a
motion Madam chair
[2:43:01] then this like they say not to come to
Plateau but to point broadband
[2:43:06] solution
[2:43:14] oh
I know we can't say that I wouldn't want
[2:43:18] to see him made for a Broadband I guess
I'm just I'm obviously utterly
[2:43:22] embarrassed to have sat here for three
years and not be able and I'm I'm really
[2:43:27] frankly shocked that none of the rest of
y'all are
[2:43:30] uh that I can give constituents who pay
taxes in this County that supported me
[2:43:36] in this office information on whether
their children can do their homework
[2:43:40] online and what am I doing about it now
I'm going to show this is what I'm doing
[2:43:44] about it and I'm getting totally
rejected for about the millionth time
[2:43:48] since I've sat on here but I'm not going
to stop I'm going to show them I'm
[2:43:51] trying to do something about it the only
thing I know to do about it
[2:43:54] well there was one other thing you could
have done about it you could have been
[2:43:58] there hollering with us at the meeting
wasting my time today my family you were
[2:44:03] chairman and we didn't do get nothing
done
[2:44:06] you were there and you didn't you didn't
speak up and you were rarely there and
[2:44:11] here and that was your Avenue to really
pursue this but the bottom line is
[2:44:16] they're a private company you can't tell
them written down you contract if I've
[2:44:22] got a private person working on my house
and they're not doing it the way I want
[2:44:26] it done I fire them
[2:44:31] you know and here's the other thing I
was going to mention you're real good at
[2:44:35] Howard in front of the audience here
but you're never saying anything
[2:44:39] somebody is coming on Plateau somebody
needs to holler for the people of this
[2:44:44] candy because you're not oh
I don't waste my time on getting stuff
[2:44:50] done wasted on an airplane to Portland
yeah that's
[2:44:54] so we sat through well I ain't gonna go
there because it's a whole different
[2:44:57] topic but I work diligently on these and
I was involved in those contract
[2:45:03] negotiations and we had our Southwest
delegation driving where that discussion
[2:45:09] was going to go because they needed if
you none of you knew this we the
[2:45:15] Commonwealth was in danger of losing its
credit rating because they loaned bvu
[2:45:20] too much money that's why VRA was at
every meeting
[2:45:24] so was the Tobacco Commission driven by
our Southwest delegation
[2:45:30] so we we got the provider that we were
going to get and then it wasn't the one
[2:45:35] that we had been negotiating the whole
time lo and behold it ended up being
[2:45:40] Point broadband and again so you were
meeting to negotiating with Point
[2:45:43] Broadband thank you finally
[2:45:48] very good
which and and the poor kids and bear pen
[2:45:54] and Cutter Creek and pound River and 611
and tivus still don't have internet and
[2:45:59] you admit to wanting to take 35 000 a
year from the organization that's done
[2:46:06] nothing produced 202 million dollars
flowed into these four counties in the
[2:46:10] lab
10 20 years yes
[2:46:18] after much much much discussion we have
a motion on the floor is there a second
[2:46:29] one more time a motion on the floor is
there a second can I ask is there
[2:46:34] suggestions from any of the for you on
what to do
[2:46:37] Rhonda you've got families on Camp Creek
I sure do so what is your suggestion
[2:46:42] then
nobody's brought any alternatives other
[2:46:45] than me coming in here
what you're doing I don't I I agree with
[2:46:49] what Ron says because they have spent
the common Plateau has been responsible
[2:46:54] for a lot of sewer and water lines in
this County we now have 99 people on
[2:47:00] public water
but I don't know if this is going to do
[2:47:04] any good really a resolution
[2:47:09] here's the thing I don't think it hurts
anything but I don't think about it I I
[2:47:14] probably would be for the resolution if
you take that money part out of it they
[2:47:18] are withhold our money Pro I probably
they don't then you know what happens
[2:47:23] when there's no money tied to it water
doesn't throw it in the trash just like
[2:47:27] every email I've seen yeah
[2:47:32] and we would get nothing from broad
broadband no I don't
[2:47:36] know here's the thing you guys are in
the same spot
[2:47:40] for the resolution
[2:47:46] 2025 they've already told us many times
by the first quarter 2025 90 of this
[2:47:53] county is going to be like 20 24.
they slipped before you guys been told
[2:48:00] that 2020. I thought when Scotty Walker
was here he said 2020.
[2:48:08] most percentage was he said that the
citizens of Dickerson Academy would make
[2:48:13] a naked today they told us 23 at first
yeah
[2:48:17] Mr Barton even confirms it and do you
mean 23 we were told 95 coverage
[2:48:25] of the people oh yeah
they're building out the county they're
[2:48:30] building out here they sure are I I'll
go for the resolution if you'll take out
[2:48:35] the part about withhold of them oh my
motions as it is I don't care well I'm
[2:48:40] doing what I can do I mean I sort of
feel that
[2:48:45] I mean
we can't do anything with VDOT to clean
[2:48:49] our roads up and fix our roads that's
how we're going to make them do this
[2:48:53] state tax dollars this is tax dollars I
mean you can't make you can't make
[2:49:01] people well they that has a business
that is working it the best they can to
[2:49:08] do it your way when you want it how you
want it at that very minute all I want
[2:49:13] some information
I think I think the whole board I think
[2:49:17] you know my assessment the whole board
is very frustrated with the situation
[2:49:20] with the broadband and you know it
appears that we're not going to get a
[2:49:25] second on this resolution so we do you
know if we might some discussion on
[2:49:28] possible other options I don't know uh
if it's the board's pleasure if we could
[2:49:32] try to facilitate a meeting between even
the full board and Cumberland Plateau
[2:49:37] representative and point Broadband
representative or something to try to
[2:49:40] get some information
[2:49:45] if we don't do that let's try to do
something to try to help the citizens I
[2:49:49] mean I understand that and that's fine
and then yes I agree but we've done that
[2:49:54] I've sat down here with with
Joseph
[2:49:58] and God it's muddy rabbits and rainbows
and Scotty I love Scotty I really like
[2:50:05] Scotty law but it's bunny rabbits in
room we don't get any concrete
[2:50:09] information ever from anybody
and so when I again have the parent
[2:50:16] asking me in my district
can you tell me when I might be able to
[2:50:20] have some kind of Internet
[2:50:24] and I'm a three-year member of this
board
[2:50:27] it's embarrassing and it's not right we
should have answers it is embarrassing
[2:50:31] it makes us look stupid and maybe I've
done a good job enough to that now but
[2:50:36] by God I'm trying I'm going to try for
people in my district to get them
[2:50:41] answers I feel as a board y'all worked
very hard on this you put money you've
[2:50:46] done your own body application
originally put a lot of research and
[2:50:50] money and time into that and of course
we lost out to yeah Point Broadband
[2:50:54] you've worked with hillcom on some
projects uh thank you successful with
[2:50:59] some others never came to fruition
because of not getting the additional
[2:51:03] grant money
um
[2:51:05] the starter link you know we tried the
starlink you if you all done that I've
[2:51:09] worked hard for it but I understand the
frustration and we need to do something
[2:51:12] else we need some other steps that we
can try to bridge this Gap to try to get
[2:51:15] more information well you mentioned
something that is good as a reminder we
[2:51:20] did try to do our own body
and we did not have the capacity to do
[2:51:25] what this other company so we lost which
is nothing no wrong well I've not done
[2:51:31] nothing they've done some they've been
up and down the roads in there and it's
[2:51:35] coming out quite a bit of the county
it took you're talking about a contract
[2:51:40] that took the entire four years the last
term to negotiate and get finished
[2:51:45] because of what about a legal letter
from our attorney to Paul broadband
[2:51:51] I think we can do that but I think at
some point we're gonna have to have
[2:51:54] Community have to have communication
with him in order to well I think to
[2:51:57] have them share with us
[2:52:01] this is not a swap okay but we have two
executive board members here shouldn't
[2:52:07] you know this stuff
[2:52:19] was there anything the Border likes in
there's a full board meeting a
[2:52:23] Cumberland Plateau full board meeting on
Thursday that uh yeah Ron and Shelby and
[2:52:27] myself will be attendance during
any mush or anything we can take to that
[2:52:30] I plan to reach out and ask if there's
any word on this dashboard that they're
[2:52:36] supposed to be developing I'm here in
November on that wrong I've heard it's
[2:52:40] not ready yet dude but I have no clue
what you're talking about
[2:52:43] fighting two is required Point Broadband
is the next contract did have something
[2:52:49] in it and they're requiring them to
build a dashboard they'll tell us
[2:52:57] an estimated time of win because it's
been a problem Statewide with the body
[2:53:02] one Grant they give you a damage so the
motion failed yes all right we have
[2:53:09] other businesses
[2:53:15] I don't know if they're shopping or what
okay
[2:53:19] uh I don't mind the uh
the resolution for a point for come on
[2:53:26] Plateau has failed due to a lack of a
second so we will move on to item number
[2:53:32] nine which is other business
do we have any other other business to
[2:53:38] come before the board
Madam chair I have none okay
[2:53:51] attorney isn't here so I will I can call
him he said no that's all right nope I'm
[2:53:58] just uh it's not
urgent I can hold off it's no problem we
[2:54:03] are down to item number 10 closed
session
[2:54:07] I need a motion and second to go into
closed session stating
[2:54:13] um
the the Virginia code as listed on our
[2:54:17] paper Madam chair I make a motion that
we go in closed session pursuant to
[2:54:23] section
2.2-37 11a1
[2:54:27] Personnel I sent that to you Rhonda in
section 2.2.
[2:54:33] 3711 A5 Economic Development update
second Madam chair all right okay
[2:54:42] okay we have a we have a moving second
on the floor Ron and Josh made the
[2:54:48] motion in the second to go into closed
session all in favor please say aye aye
[2:54:53] um we are now in close session
[4:27:20] uh I we are now out of closed session
in her chain of motion
[4:27:28] two and second to certify that only
matters for closed session was discussed
[4:27:35] remember dramatic emotion that we only
discuss those issues that we went into
[4:27:39] closed session for okay in a second I'm
taking it
[4:27:44] moving second
um that matters that we went into closed
[4:27:49] session four was the only thing
discussed Road call vote um as well as
[4:27:54] how you vote uh missile uh Mr Evans yes
Mr Peters yes and yes myself now number
[4:28:02] uh 12 are there any matters to discuss
coming out of closed session
[4:28:08] foreign
Madam chair I would like to find the one
[4:28:14] issue I'd like to give the treasurer a
chance to speak to that
[4:28:20] um do I need to make that in a form of
emotion
[4:28:23] as far as we're speaking Yeah I don't
think so
[4:28:27] that's really the pleasure of the board
yeah
[4:28:30] yeah okay
well we didn't want to call her in
[4:28:35] because we didn't want to talk to her so
why
[4:28:40] I wanted to
[4:28:46] go ahead yes
um
[4:28:50] Andy what's been brought up is were they
on their regular duty hours during the
[4:28:56] time that they are doing this and and
stuff like that so
[4:29:00] anything you could shed some light on
yes they are on the regular Navy hours
[4:29:05] but it is extra work it's not stuff that
past Treasures have done and defeats
[4:29:14] have done and this is excess funds that
was brought in and would not have been
[4:29:21] brought in had we not done all this
extra work
[4:29:25] um there's other offices that bring in
excess money and they're allowed to use
[4:29:30] their money and I don't see why my
office should be treated any different
[4:29:34] than any other office
[4:29:41] money that gets their people a bonus uh
Richard hazley
[4:29:47] really how does he get uh extra money
they I think they do work like for maybe
[4:29:54] attorneys
um citizens and stuff and that you have
[4:29:58] to pay for it and that goes into an
extra fund
[4:30:02] and they're allowed to use it
[4:30:06] I'm not arguing with you about it you're
educating me here yeah
[4:30:16] it would be a funnel through a check
like through your office it would be
[4:30:20] it's a separate change you know what I'm
saying I mean no this this money does
[4:30:26] not come into our office this is a
separate account and so like a citizen
[4:30:30] like if I needed help with a deed I'm
assuming that's what
[4:30:36] again I'm not right right arguing with
you about that I'm just curious about it
[4:30:40] I just know it's an extra account
and they're allowed to do that I don't
[4:30:46] know where he gets that money from I
would too that's I didn't honestly
[4:30:49] didn't know that you know they charge
you to record a d so they'll do like if
[4:30:54] I'm understanding if I'm understanding
your understanding is that
[4:30:59] a private person will pay them to do
something for them while on County time
[4:31:04] and they get extra money I'm assuming
[4:31:11] I'm sorry I mean I'm just I don't I
don't remember enough of this to know
[4:31:15] what it was but I I kind of thought
maybe the concealed weapon from it or
[4:31:20] something to do with fines you guys get
a piece of that Richard and I thought
[4:31:24] maybe Richard's office guys
[4:31:31] but in that scenario like what you're
saying it would pass through our
[4:31:37] Coffer she's saying whatever that is
doesn't pass through our no I think it
[4:31:42] comes from us thank you so much
and I just want to
[4:31:49] wanna well wouldn't they have to would
they have to be on their paycheck or
[4:31:53] would it have to would if a bonus it'd
have to come through our office on a
[4:31:57] paycheck
correct yes
[4:32:02] that he reimbursed the county for the
cost of it yeah yeah how does that work
[4:32:07] how much is it about probably brought a
chicken you know and and to your
[4:32:10] question Shelby another example but it
comes out of other funds from the state
[4:32:16] we approved uh some raises for the
rental office
[4:32:23] so that was where we took some money and
it went back
[4:32:31] this is County taxes that should have
been collected they worked on the
[4:32:36] regular working hours to do it
extra work besides all the other stuff
[4:32:41] that we do Shelby but you had eight
hours to work no matter what you did
[4:32:46] that that you are a Corinthian but my
girls pushed themselves every day to do
[4:32:52] all this extra stuff that we really I
mean you know back in the day the
[4:32:57] treasurer's office hired a delinquent
collections person in the office and an
[4:33:02] extra employee that collected taxes just
delinquent taxes
[4:33:07] I mean it's a lot of hard work to
collect the current taxes and do all the
[4:33:13] reconciliation for not only the general
County the school the social service
[4:33:19] community service I mean all the money
comes through our office all of it I
[4:33:25] know I work there I know what I work for
the county I know what the treasurer's
[4:33:29] office did I don't think you know
everything the treasurer's office says
[4:33:33] it just you know observe all the extra
stuff my girls do I mean there's no
[4:33:39] downtime whatsoever so that's one thing
I learned is um I mean a couple things
[4:33:45] but that one you it used to be done with
an extra person great I didn't know that
[4:33:51] um
and we do know that for many many years
[4:33:54] people were not really diligently going
after these back then because a lot of
[4:33:59] them were falling off the books
so that was a big plus and we're talking
[4:34:03] about taking a fraction of it to give a
one-time bonus
[4:34:07] because we really don't get all that
money back anyways by the time the
[4:34:11] properties don't sell for what the back
taxes are because they are allowed to
[4:34:15] improve I guess my concern is I'm sorry
I didn't interrupt you yeah well you did
[4:34:18] yeah
okay so the commissioner revenues I'm
[4:34:23] just using that as an example and I'm
not again trying to argue or be ugly but
[4:34:27] when they do income taxes from
[4:34:34] seized up and they're doing in person
and then they want a 1500 bonus or is
[4:34:40] that the president we're sitting
and I'm just saying and I I'm not saying
[4:34:44] I'm before I she's a constitutional
officer she's advocating for employees
[4:34:48] she's doing what she should do I'm not
blaming her bit fresh and I'm not and
[4:34:52] that may be something we have to look at
because
[4:34:56] we already have it I'm just that's my
thing we have I'm not faulting her for
[4:35:01] asking I mean yeah as much as we may not
kids these are her people and she's
[4:35:06] trying to get them money and that's what
I mean that's what you do
[4:35:09] [Music]
for two years and if nobody from that
[4:35:13] family comes in and claims those funds
it comes their office
[4:35:19] there's the treasurer's office that's
all masses these excess funds that we
[4:35:24] brought in that nobody's claimed that
I'm asking a one-time
[4:35:29] is that about six thousand dollars yes
is this which is nothing to what another
[4:35:34] office like and how much is in there
right now
[4:35:39] um right now we have
22
[4:35:44] 398.33 did you can I ask you on the
other offices at the same office you
[4:35:49] were talking about yeah
yeah it was on the check like that was
[4:35:52] deposited
you know what I'm saying did he bring
[4:35:55] you a deposit this which like I said
I'll let him consider office
[4:36:05] who's on the check like who's the who's
saying a personal check well I mean it
[4:36:11] was a Richard Edwards Clark I mean not
him personally but yeah I got you
[4:36:17] officially yeah so his office has a
separate checking account besides what
[4:36:22] comes through the county and you would
have access to that account well you
[4:36:26] need to see where that much
because it doesn't come through her
[4:36:29] office
[4:36:32] that much
thank you
[4:36:36] this shouldn't close session if you're
going to mention other offices names and
[4:36:40] how much they paid their employees well
I guess In fairness well I don't think
[4:36:44] he's specifically I mean whatever I
don't know we didn't say did we say
[4:36:49] something a little vote on it
[4:36:54] with another constitutional law he said
well how many thousand did he pay it was
[4:37:00] uh almost 13 000 13 000. 12 500 and that
was distributed in who so who determined
[4:37:08] who had got how much of that being
what do you I mean I guess your office
[4:37:13] issued the checks though then right
Karen did okay all right so you wouldn't
[4:37:19] know all right
if I said it'd have to go through the
[4:37:22] favor with it
because taxes have to be taken out of it
[4:37:26] yeah have you ever got this before Angie
have you ever got this before have we
[4:37:30] ever got this before bonus before have
you ever paid your employees about this
[4:37:34] before no never this is the first time
first time it's happened
[4:37:40] I know that because I started the same
time so I know we've never dressed why'd
[4:37:45] you think of these
[4:37:48] I knew we had these
had these that we brought in and I know
[4:37:52] how hard my girls were
and that's something I wanted to do
[4:37:57] still especially after you know
sorry go ahead I'm sorry can you find
[4:38:02] out somebody else being sick you know
and My Girls work hard so how so the 26
[4:38:08] 000 is not just delinquent taxes it's
what do you keep saying it's excess okay
[4:38:13] let's say for instance
um we have a land sale and
[4:38:18] the delinquent taxes are paid the
attorney fees the auctioneer fees any
[4:38:25] fees that's out there let's say there's
a
[4:38:29] all that comes up to be twenty thousand
let's say the land gets sold for twenty
[4:38:35] six thousand that six thousand dollars
is excess funds so the delinquency so it
[4:38:40] is extra money the attorney's paid
everybody's paid I understand that's
[4:38:44] another good clarification point the six
thousand dollars well I'm more
[4:38:48] interested now I'm about ten times more
clarity on what you're saying but I'm
[4:38:53] more that's kind of why the other thing
[4:38:59] I just want my office treated
equally and if you don't advocate for
[4:39:06] them exactly because you are their boss
so to speak and I'm not asking for
[4:39:10] myself and we were told it was excess
but I didn't it didn't click until you
[4:39:14] just explained that there you know
this is money that
[4:39:21] what after everybody's paid this is
excess money and it's held in account
[4:39:25] for two years
and so if somebody in the family doesn't
[4:39:30] go in and claim that money then that
money comes back to us and under her
[4:39:36] leadership and this um this office has
done something historically we've never
[4:39:42] done Madam chairman remember yes
you know the commissioner brought in
[4:39:48] about 400 and some thousand dollars
extra
[4:39:54] back a few years ago it was Mike Yates
and I don't care to mention his name he
[4:40:00] brought in some excess funds that he
audited the severance
[4:40:06] you know he didn't ask that his
employees get a big bonus
[4:40:12] we divided the bonds between every
employee in the county
[4:40:17] we didn't ask for an individual in the
commission I didn't work there but
[4:40:21] anyway he did not ask
that his employee get a special bonus
[4:40:26] just because he brought in all this
extra money he brought it to the county
[4:40:30] and the county willingly gave every
employee in the county a 500 bonus from
[4:40:37] that
that was a lot of money well I guess you
[4:40:41] don't care as long as you get your six
here well that's why I'm saying that so
[4:40:48] that's another example where we've done
something similar but you know six
[4:40:53] thousand dollars
well what I say is yeah
[4:41:00] if we Grant Miss Rex's request then I
would say but then we divvy the rest of
[4:41:06] the 20 amongst our sanitation workers
[4:41:12] I would say we should look at I didn't
think we need to give that you ain't got
[4:41:16] it I'm saying you're just you're not
asking for the whole amount right
[4:41:20] I mean you're just asking for the 15
each just for the bonus yeah the money
[4:41:24] the rest of it would go to the general
fund it's in the general or we'll we'll
[4:41:28] watch it right the time
basically I don't have my own
[4:41:34] personality no no that's not what I'm
saying yeah but it's it's but other
[4:41:39] things that our office needs because our
computers are good you know there's not
[4:41:43] a lot of money for office supplies I
know that so the rest of that money I
[4:41:50] think you know we should be able to use
when we need new computers our printers
[4:41:54] are going out on us you know
that makes it a lot clearer we weren't
[4:41:59] really clear yeah because the Delinquent
Tax so the County's owed or paid what
[4:42:05] it's owed the property
in most cases
[4:42:11] delinquent taxes Tacs all the legal fees
that was paid out the auctioneer any
[4:42:18] monies that was paid out
this is excess over that In fairness to
[4:42:23] us I mean that's your off job like what
was Ben said I agree but like I said we
[4:42:29] take on a lot of extra stuff that the
other Treasures did not
[4:42:35] how many years has that been accumulated
um I think the first first one we got of
[4:42:42] course I had land sale in 16 and it's
held for 18 years so after that then
[4:42:48] with the sheets yeah so 18 then when you
had a landsat if you had one in 17 then
[4:42:54] you got that in 19 which got added to it
[4:43:00] November if nobody in the family claims
it
[4:43:11] does the families know they can claim
this money I'm sure they I mean I'm
[4:43:16] guessing do you uh let people know that
do you send them a letter that
[4:43:22] this money is standing here you haven't
existed to do the sale though they would
[4:43:28] have had to have been given some sort of
notice notice yeah and then and it's
[4:43:31] like but I'm sure they don't know
they've done it for excess well you're
[4:43:36] right but I guess they had they were
notified as being sold though
[4:43:44] true do you ever have a family from a
sale to ever come contact you back to
[4:43:50] say did that property sale we actually
the land that Josh bought
[4:43:55] uh that family came forth yeah oh really
okay well I know Jay don't they get a
[4:44:00] letter because I know my mother-in-law
the Flemings we got a letter on my
[4:44:05] mother-in-law's place later that maybe
they sold it for excess
[4:44:10] that you were in town what what's that
did you get a letter saying that it is I
[4:44:16] don't you know and I don't
these are you're talking about families
[4:44:20] that
a lot of times didn't pay their taxes
[4:44:23] for 20 years that you're you what she's
saying is so for excess the family can
[4:44:28] come back in and reclaim some of that
did you come back see if it's so
[4:44:32] francaise no we didn't bother with them
that's a good I mean that's a good point
[4:44:38] but you're not legally required to do
that yeah no
[4:44:42] and after a certain time it's released
right you
[4:44:45] know you're coming to us now because
this Money's been released
[4:44:52] I mean you got to look at everyone gets
mailed a tax statement every year but we
[4:44:58] somehow we have to orchestrate these
sales and all this legal work to go get
[4:45:04] taxes that people
[4:45:07] every year
it's only for excess
[4:45:12] well they opted to check into this
right if so this 26 000
[4:45:21] it's not like we've got this in a
special account this is what's the extra
[4:45:25] over this period of time yeah so this
has already come into the general fund
[4:45:29] and been spent or been whatever
[4:45:33] so this so this extra money so it's
already in the general account
[4:45:39] yes yeah you follow what I'm saying so
if like you sold a piece in 16 and it
[4:45:45] garnered a thousand extra dollars then
that money would have done as she did Us
[4:45:49] in 18 right
yes Chris so did we not spend that
[4:45:54] hypothetical thousand dollars already is
what I guess I'm saying
[4:45:59] do you follow what I'm saying have we
budgeted
[4:46:03] side separate you know
correct is that what it's designated I
[4:46:09] think you know kind of like his own line
item it's a line item this shows the
[4:46:12] balance in it designated as excess funds
but it's in the general fund part of the
[4:46:17] journal fund
well I don't have any other questions Mr
[4:46:21] chair as far as um
you guys better get the word out but
[4:46:26] they can come back and ask that shall we
all right kind of like the people
[4:46:30] veterans credit
the retirees credit all that yes
[4:46:38] emotions
we don't have to on the medals okay well
[4:46:45] do we
so
[4:46:48] I make the motion we approve Angie's
requests
[4:46:52] Brooke since clarifications come to me
I'm on a second
[4:47:00] okay we have a moving second on the
floor
[4:47:04] for uh the Treasurer's Department
request for four employees a bonus pay a
[4:47:09] one-time bonus pay
all in favor please say aye aye
[4:47:13] aye
any opposed no
[4:47:18] okay I'm more about yes all right so we
have four yeses and one no thank you
[4:47:24] very much
thank you
[4:47:28] for it yeah
[4:47:32] I might get with you and get information
on that other thing
[4:47:38] okay so that takes care of item number
11 and 20.
[4:47:46] so that's all we got right well shoot
that's got two right there twelve two
[4:47:52] twelves yeah
yeah it must be 13.
[4:47:56] okay before I ask
um for supervisor's comment to close out
[4:48:02] or to start getting down to the end the
thing that I had said a while ago Mr
[4:48:08] Sturgill that I would wait and ask later
when you was here whether it was tonight
[4:48:12] or next month
last month there was a request for
[4:48:17] information about a conflict of interest
for April Collins to serve on the DSs
[4:48:21] board and I was wondering do you have an
update on that because that was they
[4:48:26] wanted attorney general's opinion yeah
you have an update for that yeah
[4:48:32] um if you all want an attorney's
General's opinion I would ask for
[4:48:37] emotion and approval from the board to
get that but I've reviewed the code
[4:48:43] extensively on this I I think it's
pretty clear that there's not a conflict
[4:48:50] of interest hope for the overall border
Point appointment for DSS
[4:48:55] however I can't state that
that she would have a conflict would not
[4:49:02] have a conflict of interest depending on
the case or the situation and I can't
[4:49:07] really specify or go into it without
knowing the specific case or situation
[4:49:12] and I think that would be up to in that
case required to abstain Korean like
[4:49:17] what Josh has to do on Social Services
exactly yes and so
[4:49:23] based on my review I think it's pretty
clear that again she can serve however
[4:49:29] that there may be a conflict depending
on certain circumstances that would have
[4:49:35] to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis
okay did she submit her letter did she
[4:49:41] submit a letter from her boss saying
that it was not a conflict
[4:49:45] that that is true that that her employer
which which of course is the state of
[4:49:51] Virginia Department of Juvenile Justice
declared that it's not a conflict
[4:49:56] um did receive that reviewed it and what
I would say to that is
[4:50:01] again I've already given my opinion on
it but at the end of the day it's
[4:50:08] whether there's any conflicts that occur
within her role with Department of
[4:50:14] Social Services on the board of whether
there's a conflict of interest or an
[4:50:19] appearance of impropriety for for
whatever reason for dealing with her
[4:50:25] role if it comes in and again to me that
would be on a case-by-case basis okay
[4:50:31] all right thank you
okay
[4:50:35] supervisors comments
starting with Mrs Willis which I usually
[4:50:40] start on that end all the time
[4:50:45] you have comment Miss Lewis
I have a comment about give it to myself
[4:50:51] okay well I got a couple of comments uh
Shelby brought it to my attention the
[4:50:57] last meeting I said I wouldn't not take
my grandchildren down to the uh fair if
[4:51:02] beer was served and I did take them to
the fair so I I want to accomplish that
[4:51:09] I did go around and look for the beer
garden was and I saw nothing out of
[4:51:15] uh I did not see anybody drinking any
beer and when I went around to the booth
[4:51:20] it there was very few people there so I
had to go back and replenish so they
[4:51:25] sold a lot well they might have I don't
know about what they saw but I don't
[4:51:29] want people to think that I told a plea
and lies lies the lies board many many
[4:51:35] because I did take my grandchildren down
there one night
[4:51:39] Friday night so uh
I want to make that clear I also want to
[4:51:46] say that the Clintwood Hooten in the
holler I did attend that and that was
[4:51:50] very I think for the first time they did
a good job and I I think it was uh
[4:51:57] the band was really good and uh I
enjoyed it and I think that that will be
[4:52:02] successful in the years to come and I
appreciate the Town Council and the
[4:52:07] mayor of what they did
I also would like to I did come at that
[4:52:11] time that day and visit the quilting
gear be a quilting uh Guild downstairs
[4:52:17] here with some beautiful quilts I try to
support them and what they do and I also
[4:52:23] want to wish Ridgeview a wonderful
homecoming
[4:52:27] and much success in the in the football
and I enjoyed the football game I went
[4:52:33] to the band was marvelous I was very
very proud of the band the cheerleaders
[4:52:39] and the team and we all know how good
the team is and I I hope for a wonderful
[4:52:44] homecoming
[4:52:47] Mr God bless you
yes Madam chair lot it's been a very
[4:52:52] long meeting don't want to make it any
longer we had a very
[4:52:56] good day today and I know
that the decision we made to
[4:53:04] develop the high school property was not
missed on any of the five of us and what
[4:53:10] I said at our uh groundbreaking I meant
that it's kind of a rare thing that we
[4:53:16] were together on that and I'm proud of
what we've gotten accomplished in
[4:53:20] bringing the largest non-energy non-coal
private investment to Dickinson County
[4:53:25] in the history of our County so uh I
meant what I said and I congratulate
[4:53:30] that you and and us and our staff and
getting that done that to me as much
[4:53:36] maybe
I don't know uh sarcasm and poking that
[4:53:42] the public may give us on that no other
board no other Ida no other
[4:53:46] Administration has ever brought
12 to 15 million private dollars
[4:53:52] to be invested into this County so I'm
very proud of it and I will defend it to
[4:53:59] anybody so I'm very happy we got that
done Larry I know and I maybe failed to
[4:54:05] articulate it as good as I should have
today that could tie this ain't up and
[4:54:09] finish that you've done a lot of work
and I appreciate it
[4:54:13] um apologize publicly to Miss Willis and
Mr Peters for losing my temper earlier
[4:54:18] however frustration is not
that's the easy word on my feelings on
[4:54:24] this internet I mean I'm inundated and
have been inundated
[4:54:28] daily with people asking in my district
when is the internet coming
[4:54:34] and I don't know and I sincerely mean it
what to tell them and it doesn't feel
[4:54:41] like I don't feel that you all can tell
me what to tell them and it's very
[4:54:44] frustrating
should I yell and scream no but that's
[4:54:48] what I feel like doing
and I don't know what else to do so you
[4:54:53] should have got several people hooked up
or signed up last week well where where
[4:54:58] I don't know where tell me where
I agree but anyway I hope you'll accept
[4:55:04] that it is what it is or not necessarily
sorry for bringing it to you I'm being
[4:55:09] booked
um I don't know what else to do so but
[4:55:13] anyway I used to be big
my job it's very good to hear your
[4:55:18] report I appreciate it very much the
fire we've done said was an amazing
[4:55:22] success Beer Garden or not I'm very
proud that we funded that and I'm going
[4:55:27] to hope that we will continue to fund
that and so I hope we can take this
[4:55:33] positive energy like Rhonda said Hooten
in the hauler wildly successful in my
[4:55:37] opinion uh we've got a lot of positive
energy and I'm very proud of what we got
[4:55:42] done today
[Music]
[4:55:44] yes that's right Miss Kaiser if you
don't Mr Peters might mentioned but we
[4:55:48] do have the Autumn Fest starting Friday
which is always good the weather looks a
[4:55:51] little shaky but
um okay um
[4:55:55] I'll peggyback guys what Josh talked
about the food city project
[4:56:01] is really
a tremendous opportunity for this County
[4:56:06] and it's coming together
we finally got movement on Earth as Josh
[4:56:12] said earlier today that what you folks
don't understand is that's the
[4:56:16] culmination of work that started all
during last term by both boards
[4:56:23] and then started to take hold and we got
it moving in our term
[4:56:27] so it you know we and you know yes
there's other ideas
[4:56:32] but we tried to advertise out there for
other things this was our best option
[4:56:37] and it goes
um for those that are wondering about
[4:56:41] internet
it all I can tell you is we cannot force
[4:56:47] the Private Industry to tell us
or their schedule
[4:56:51] we've asked I've hollered about this
don't test the only information I got
[4:56:58] that I can tell you is right now
they're saying it's first quarter 2025
[4:57:03] the majority of our County should be
hooked up to fibers
[4:57:07] will that slip possibly I had won
several about six months ago
[4:57:14] that I was told they'd be there in next
month and it was two months later that
[4:57:18] they came you know because things slip
they're they're dealing with issues with
[4:57:23] supply chain stuff as well as they're
not going to hire an entire staff to
[4:57:29] populate four counties at one time
they've got to move around and
[4:57:34] and and I have no control over where
they go they they did a little bit in
[4:57:40] dick in at my end of the county when
they first started because they were
[4:57:44] working across the border
in Buchanan County at the time they just
[4:57:49] came across and then they stopped and I
had continuous calls from the guy that
[4:57:54] was 500 feet away and he didn't get
hooked up
[4:57:56] so in a couple months
took about four months and he finally
[4:58:01] got hooked up so I I have no control
they and they're not just they didn't
[4:58:05] just start there then they jumped I
think over towards um
[4:58:13] they've been in various places so yeah
and I you know but they don't there's no
[4:58:19] control that we have on where they go
and I I think it's ridiculous too but
[4:58:25] that's just the way it is
thank you you're welcome I just want to
[4:58:31] thank everybody that came tonight the
presentations that was made
[4:58:36] um I think Larry for what he has done
since he has come on board with this
[4:58:41] Food City Department
we thought we was close over a year ago
[4:58:47] and got the next stove in the pot that
Murray had to spend a lot of time on and
[4:58:52] Lehman Lehman has been a wonderful
engineer I know food City's got their
[4:58:59] own Engineers but Lehman has done a
wonderful job
[4:59:03] uh I just think I'm like Ron and Josh I
get very few calls from my people
[4:59:10] uh I mean every now and then somebody
sent me an email or sent me a Facebook
[4:59:15] message asking about internet but I get
very few but when I'm asked and I can
[4:59:21] find out where they are
I let people know I answer these
[4:59:26] people's emails I send them to come on
Plateau sometimes it takes two or three
[4:59:30] days to get an answer but I tell it to
people you know uh
[4:59:35] I try to be there for you
we're not all 100 percent accurate
[4:59:41] or on top of things but we I think we
have all tried
[4:59:46] um
just to add to us anyone that needs to
[4:59:51] know in their area
I this doesn't work 100 of the time but
[4:59:57] if you if I get the address I can and
any of us could do that send it to
[5:00:02] Scotty Wampler and he can kind of get an
idea when they plan to be there
[5:00:08] not guaranteed in every case but like in
well he has it and I'm not going to get
[5:00:13] back into this but I've not been
successful with that so God he asked
[5:00:17] last week and and
lo and behold he came right back he got
[5:00:22] it right away
on your question Scott Scotty Owens
[5:00:26] asked last week on his house and I sent
it to Scotty Wampler and he while we
[5:00:33] were talking about other things that
came back and he said you're not till
[5:00:37] body too and they haven't started body
two it's does that give you all I can
[5:00:42] tell you is by the first quarter of
2025. that's all body two doesn't start
[5:00:47] until the end of 24. what's that money
two doesn't start until the end of 24
[5:00:52] does it no I think it's supposed to roll
in pretty soon or 2023 sometime but they
[5:00:58] haven't finished the contract yet I
don't think I think they're supposed to
[5:01:02] have everything done because they said
90 or better they told me and Larry 95
[5:01:07] initially that's something one well I
know they could include body too okay
[5:01:13] well is that all yeah I'll entertain a
motion too
[5:01:18] has two more years on that second
anybody we have a moving secondary
[5:01:24] journal in favor please say hi hi