1 00:00:29,599 --> 00:01:13,250 thank you 2 00:01:13,260 --> 00:03:10,030 foreign 3 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:19,550 [Music] 4 00:03:19,560 --> 00:03:20,720 foreign 5 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:50,690 [Music] 6 00:03:50,700 --> 00:04:33,469 foreign 7 00:04:33,479 --> 00:05:05,510 thank you 8 00:05:05,520 --> 00:06:25,570 foreign 9 00:06:25,580 --> 00:06:35,530 thank you 10 00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:49,430 [Music] 11 00:06:49,440 --> 00:08:06,360 foreign 12 00:08:06,370 --> 00:08:18,490 [Music] 13 00:08:18,500 --> 00:08:21,780 meeting to order for Monday October 3rd 14 00:08:21,780 --> 00:08:24,900 2022 our first committee is finance Mr 15 00:08:24,900 --> 00:08:26,060 Williams 16 00:08:26,060 --> 00:08:28,560 thank you so I'd like the call to order 17 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:29,940 the finance committee there's three 18 00:08:29,940 --> 00:08:32,099 items on the agenda tonight first call 19 00:08:32,099 --> 00:08:33,779 for public hearing for the 2021 20 00:08:33,779 --> 00:08:36,120 Consolidated annual performance and 21 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:39,959 evaluation report on October 11th and 22 00:08:39,959 --> 00:08:46,210 that will be spoken by Kristen yeah 23 00:08:46,220 --> 00:08:50,760 this is very formal um Dan if you just 24 00:08:50,760 --> 00:08:53,339 go up to the corner you see that little 25 00:08:53,339 --> 00:08:55,800 yeah there you go 26 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,440 um we're going to be talking quickly 27 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:00,540 about the Consolidated annual 28 00:09:00,540 --> 00:09:02,640 performance and evaluation report or the 29 00:09:02,640 --> 00:09:05,220 Caper this measures our accomplishments 30 00:09:05,220 --> 00:09:07,800 on our HUD funding through the Community 31 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:09,899 Development block grant the home funds 32 00:09:09,899 --> 00:09:13,260 and the emergency Solutions Grant funds 33 00:09:13,260 --> 00:09:16,740 um in addition to this was our cdbg CB 34 00:09:16,740 --> 00:09:19,140 funds or the stimulus funds that came 35 00:09:19,140 --> 00:09:21,420 through Care Act cares act to fund 36 00:09:21,420 --> 00:09:22,800 different things in response to the 37 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:24,660 pandemic 38 00:09:24,660 --> 00:09:26,640 um so essentially we had three major 39 00:09:26,640 --> 00:09:28,740 goals in our Consolidated plan The 40 00:09:28,740 --> 00:09:30,360 Five-Year Plan this was to enhance 41 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:33,120 housing opportunities expand economic 42 00:09:33,120 --> 00:09:35,040 and Workforce Development and strengthen 43 00:09:35,040 --> 00:09:39,420 local neighborhoods so the first goal in 44 00:09:39,420 --> 00:09:42,380 the enhancing housing opportunities 45 00:09:42,380 --> 00:09:45,480 within the program Year from July 1st 46 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:48,959 2021 to June 30th 2022 that's what this 47 00:09:48,959 --> 00:09:52,620 report is kind of measuring and it's also good to keep in mind that 48 00:09:52,620 --> 00:09:54,480 funding kind of spans over multiple 49 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:56,220 years sometimes depending on the project 50 00:09:56,220 --> 00:09:58,500 so it's kind of a pointy time between 51 00:09:58,500 --> 00:10:01,019 those dates you know what what projects 52 00:10:01,019 --> 00:10:03,740 occurred and what funding did we spend 53 00:10:03,740 --> 00:10:07,019 so we did 15 demolitions a week and 54 00:10:07,019 --> 00:10:09,260 instructors throughout the city 55 00:10:09,260 --> 00:10:12,600 there were 15 owner-occupied rehabs with 56 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,339 our partners at their Community 57 00:10:14,339 --> 00:10:15,860 neighborhoods 58 00:10:15,860 --> 00:10:18,839 we worked with Habitat for Humanity to 59 00:10:18,839 --> 00:10:20,459 do a few builds throughout the city 60 00:10:20,459 --> 00:10:23,100 which were infill projects one of which 61 00:10:23,100 --> 00:10:25,440 was a vacant property that was turned 62 00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:27,300 into an owner occupied property it was a 63 00:10:27,300 --> 00:10:29,880 rental unit to kind of offset the costs 64 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:31,800 there in Eastern Ave 65 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,260 so that was exciting 66 00:10:34,260 --> 00:10:36,540 um through the Mount Pleasant Outreach 67 00:10:36,540 --> 00:10:40,500 project scap provided 24 households with 68 00:10:40,500 --> 00:10:42,180 tenant training responsibilities and 69 00:10:42,180 --> 00:10:44,399 legal assistance as a result they 70 00:10:44,399 --> 00:10:46,140 secured improvements in their living 71 00:10:46,140 --> 00:10:49,620 conditions there were 74 residents that 72 00:10:49,620 --> 00:10:51,720 received Services which included the 73 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:53,640 homeless prevention and Rapid rehousing 74 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,380 programs 75 00:10:55,380 --> 00:10:56,820 um in addition the first time whole 76 00:10:56,820 --> 00:10:58,740 homebuyer program for down payment 77 00:10:58,740 --> 00:11:01,399 assistance and closing costs was 78 00:11:01,399 --> 00:11:03,120 overseen by Better Community 79 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:05,820 neighborhoods as well and the Bethesda 80 00:11:05,820 --> 00:11:07,320 house tenant-based rental assistance 81 00:11:07,320 --> 00:11:10,019 program served 19 participants and 82 00:11:10,019 --> 00:11:13,500 provided 50 000 of rental assistance and 83 00:11:13,500 --> 00:11:15,899 this is just another project safe Inc 84 00:11:15,899 --> 00:11:18,899 providingly accessible sidewalk to their 85 00:11:18,899 --> 00:11:23,210 educational recreation facility 86 00:11:23,220 --> 00:11:24,959 um 87 00:11:24,959 --> 00:11:26,700 yep and this is just some of the 88 00:11:26,700 --> 00:11:29,040 community outreach that's done this was 89 00:11:29,040 --> 00:11:31,680 an open house that's safe income did as 90 00:11:31,680 --> 00:11:33,540 well 91 00:11:33,540 --> 00:11:36,480 um so we had a pause in our construction 92 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,519 skills training program during the 93 00:11:38,519 --> 00:11:40,800 pandemic but it was restarted so we had 94 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,200 10 new program participants 95 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,000 um and there was various workshops and 96 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,459 job fairs and skills training 97 00:11:47,459 --> 00:11:49,200 um this was in partnership with the 98 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:51,060 literally Arsenal again just trying to 99 00:11:51,060 --> 00:11:53,279 connect the trades and the jobs that are 100 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:54,720 available with the people who are 101 00:11:54,720 --> 00:11:56,700 learning these skills 102 00:11:56,700 --> 00:11:58,980 um so they can can join the workforce in 103 00:11:58,980 --> 00:12:01,140 meaningful ways 104 00:12:01,140 --> 00:12:04,079 um in addition resources for the city's 105 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:06,720 painting program uh 106 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:08,820 you know paid approximately a mile of 107 00:12:08,820 --> 00:12:10,860 roads in our neighborhood revitalization 108 00:12:10,860 --> 00:12:14,220 strategy area and in addition as part of 109 00:12:14,220 --> 00:12:16,680 the economic development 110 00:12:16,680 --> 00:12:19,019 um we worked with the Community Loan 111 00:12:19,019 --> 00:12:21,360 Fund to provide small business grants 112 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:24,899 through our cdbg CD funding I think it 113 00:12:24,899 --> 00:12:27,180 was over it was close to four hundred 114 00:12:27,180 --> 00:12:28,980 thousand dollars in Grants that helped 115 00:12:28,980 --> 00:12:32,630 over 60 small businesses 116 00:12:32,640 --> 00:12:35,579 um in addition you can keep calm down 117 00:12:35,579 --> 00:12:37,019 um through the strengthening local 118 00:12:37,019 --> 00:12:39,000 neighborhoods we we have the 119 00:12:39,000 --> 00:12:40,620 collaborative tree program in 120 00:12:40,620 --> 00:12:43,579 partnership with Community fathers sjta 121 00:12:43,579 --> 00:12:46,440 Retreat Schenectady in the city last 122 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:48,480 summer they planted 50 trees as part of 123 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:49,980 this program and this summer they did a 124 00:12:49,980 --> 00:12:52,019 hundred so it's been we've seen and 125 00:12:52,019 --> 00:12:54,000 scaled up it's involved with youth 126 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,399 employment and skills training we're 127 00:12:56,399 --> 00:12:58,260 really excited to see the progress that 128 00:12:58,260 --> 00:13:00,000 continues to happen now that we have our 129 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:02,100 community forestry plan that was just 130 00:13:02,100 --> 00:13:04,500 completed 131 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:08,100 um and then we the Hamilton Hill Art 132 00:13:08,100 --> 00:13:10,700 Center completed their Sculpture Park 133 00:13:10,700 --> 00:13:13,560 which this is an image from that as many 134 00:13:13,560 --> 00:13:15,720 of you may have seen it's been a 135 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,519 transformation in the neighborhood of 136 00:13:17,519 --> 00:13:20,220 formerly vacant site that now is a 137 00:13:20,220 --> 00:13:21,779 Community Asset 138 00:13:21,779 --> 00:13:22,800 um that was part of the thriving 139 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,839 neighborhoods challenge 140 00:13:24,839 --> 00:13:28,079 and then at Orchard Park we had the park 141 00:13:28,079 --> 00:13:29,639 improvements that were completed and 142 00:13:29,639 --> 00:13:31,320 then in addition this Fitness court that 143 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:35,100 was installed as well to basically 144 00:13:35,100 --> 00:13:37,019 benefit City residents of all ages 145 00:13:37,019 --> 00:13:38,579 through the different programming that's 146 00:13:38,579 --> 00:13:40,680 happening there 147 00:13:40,680 --> 00:13:43,279 um and then the the youth Coalition 148 00:13:43,279 --> 00:13:46,200 supported a lot of youth programs 149 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,320 over the year and in addition the 150 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,180 partnership with boys and girls club is 151 00:13:51,180 --> 00:13:52,680 instrumental in providing some of the 152 00:13:52,680 --> 00:13:54,779 summer programs like here at UCF Packard 153 00:13:54,779 --> 00:13:56,639 Bush Hill there's some assignments and 154 00:13:56,639 --> 00:13:59,399 then of course the the swimming lessons 155 00:13:59,399 --> 00:14:01,620 and programs that happen 156 00:14:01,620 --> 00:14:04,079 um throughout the city parks over the 157 00:14:04,079 --> 00:14:06,420 summer which is just really impactful to 158 00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:10,550 keep kids engaged during that time 159 00:14:10,560 --> 00:14:13,079 um and then this is just a snapshot of 160 00:14:13,079 --> 00:14:15,000 the design of Jerry Burrell Park which 161 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:17,100 started last year and is out to bid 162 00:14:17,100 --> 00:14:18,720 right now so we'll see where the numbers 163 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,160 come back and we'll look forward to 164 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,200 continuing that investment moving 165 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,000 forward 166 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,260 um 167 00:14:25,260 --> 00:14:27,240 just an image from Community meetings 168 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:29,880 and we do try to there you can see 169 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:31,860 Sylvia out there like we try to get 170 00:14:31,860 --> 00:14:33,660 engaged in the events happening and make 171 00:14:33,660 --> 00:14:35,639 sure and making sure that we're kind of 172 00:14:35,639 --> 00:14:37,139 listening to the needs and responding 173 00:14:37,139 --> 00:14:38,760 through our goals and what we're 174 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:41,519 investing in so that's it 175 00:14:41,519 --> 00:14:42,420 um 176 00:14:42,420 --> 00:14:45,839 one of the main things for tonight is 177 00:14:45,839 --> 00:14:47,459 just to announce the 15-day public 178 00:14:47,459 --> 00:14:49,320 comment period for the keeper which is 179 00:14:49,320 --> 00:14:51,660 posted online it's going to be today 180 00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:54,480 October 3rd through Tuesday October 18th 181 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,279 and there will be a public hearing 182 00:14:56,279 --> 00:14:58,740 scheduled for next Tuesday October 11th 183 00:14:58,740 --> 00:15:01,380 at seven o'clock at the general city 184 00:15:01,380 --> 00:15:04,550 council meeting 185 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,720 thank you any questions or comments from 186 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,329 the table 187 00:15:10,339 --> 00:15:12,800 cycling all in favor 188 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:16,199 moving to the next item is a reminder of 189 00:15:16,199 --> 00:15:18,300 the 2023 budget there's the public 190 00:15:18,300 --> 00:15:22,019 hearing on October 11 2022 191 00:15:22,019 --> 00:15:23,639 offer any further comments or questions 192 00:15:23,639 --> 00:15:25,380 regarding such 193 00:15:25,380 --> 00:15:26,820 it's perfect 194 00:15:26,820 --> 00:15:29,399 um so Mr bear and I think Mr Baron sent 195 00:15:29,399 --> 00:15:30,660 us the dates I just want to know that 196 00:15:30,660 --> 00:15:32,279 the public the public know what the 197 00:15:32,279 --> 00:15:34,560 dates are that we'll be reading October 198 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:37,500 13th is our first October 18th October 199 00:15:37,500 --> 00:15:41,820 19th October 20th uh and October 21st if 200 00:15:41,820 --> 00:15:44,519 needed so I believe this can be we'll be 201 00:15:44,519 --> 00:15:47,339 posted on our website thank you and the 202 00:15:47,339 --> 00:15:49,260 last item will be a discussion for noise 203 00:15:49,260 --> 00:15:53,100 violation follow-up by Mr County so this 204 00:15:53,100 --> 00:15:57,480 is a continuing issue with noise we left 205 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:00,240 it the last time with some of the 206 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,420 technology pieces and Mr coluccio is 207 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:05,650 going to do a presentation 208 00:16:05,650 --> 00:16:08,399 [Music] 209 00:16:08,399 --> 00:16:14,569 it's it's uh 210 00:16:14,579 --> 00:16:19,199 it's a another short presentation so uh 211 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:21,899 as you know we've installed a number of 212 00:16:21,899 --> 00:16:25,260 uh smart technology pieces in the city 213 00:16:25,260 --> 00:16:29,880 the analytic cameras that have a number 214 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,100 of features including 215 00:16:32,100 --> 00:16:35,820 um integrated microphone so one of the 216 00:16:35,820 --> 00:16:38,339 things that came up with was how we 217 00:16:38,339 --> 00:16:41,600 could use these microphones to analyze 218 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:45,300 noise and actually pick out where 219 00:16:45,300 --> 00:16:48,600 violations are in the city so I asked 220 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:50,519 the company that they were working with 221 00:16:50,519 --> 00:16:52,019 in one of the companies you typically 222 00:16:52,019 --> 00:16:53,279 did 223 00:16:53,279 --> 00:16:56,579 to give us an understanding of this 224 00:16:56,579 --> 00:16:59,940 newer device that they that we have 225 00:16:59,940 --> 00:17:02,399 installed out there and what the roadmap 226 00:17:02,399 --> 00:17:04,620 is for the sound handling so they're 227 00:17:04,620 --> 00:17:06,740 providing me a very short 228 00:17:06,740 --> 00:17:11,990 slideshow that I'll go through 229 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:14,699 they're going to develop this Sound 230 00:17:14,699 --> 00:17:16,640 Processing engine 231 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,100 leopard watching the microphones that 232 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:22,140 are located in the hubs on top of the 233 00:17:22,140 --> 00:17:23,880 street lights 234 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:26,400 um on board let's see what else they 235 00:17:26,400 --> 00:17:29,280 said uh they will be doing uh processing 236 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:31,820 on board they're not going to 237 00:17:31,820 --> 00:17:35,640 upload the audio the um 238 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,860 the machine that's mounted on top of the 239 00:17:37,860 --> 00:17:39,720 street light has the intelligence to 240 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:41,820 analyze the information and determine 241 00:17:41,820 --> 00:17:45,000 exactly what it is and then that'll be 242 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,400 able to send the information back to it 243 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:49,679 wherever we alignment whether it's 244 00:17:49,679 --> 00:17:54,720 dispatch or to the desk sergeant to tell 245 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,240 them where an issue may be out in the 246 00:17:57,240 --> 00:18:00,740 city so they're all GPS GPS located 247 00:18:00,740 --> 00:18:03,120 they're able to do some sort of 248 00:18:03,120 --> 00:18:07,200 triangulation which can narrow down the 249 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:09,320 location out of the sound based on 250 00:18:09,320 --> 00:18:11,700 multiple different units that are out 251 00:18:11,700 --> 00:18:14,400 there and they can also because there 252 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:17,160 are cameras on it as well depending 253 00:18:17,160 --> 00:18:19,080 again depending on where the location is 254 00:18:19,080 --> 00:18:22,440 take a screenshot of that location to 255 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,260 see what's going on in that area 256 00:18:25,260 --> 00:18:28,380 they also talked about uh LPR slice of 257 00:18:28,380 --> 00:18:31,980 the paint reader potential it does not 258 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:33,900 work with the cameras that they have 259 00:18:33,900 --> 00:18:35,460 there now because the cameras are 260 00:18:35,460 --> 00:18:38,940 installed so high but um this bullet is 261 00:18:38,940 --> 00:18:41,820 about the potential to install a second 262 00:18:41,820 --> 00:18:45,480 one attached to this unit and then mount 263 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,340 it over on the pole 264 00:18:47,340 --> 00:18:51,179 so this is the timeline of uh when you 265 00:18:51,179 --> 00:18:53,100 expect that we have this up and running 266 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:54,960 so 267 00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:55,500 um 268 00:18:55,500 --> 00:18:59,280 to generate an alarm based on the sound 269 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:04,140 increase first quarter of 2023 I'm going 270 00:19:04,140 --> 00:19:06,720 to skip over the LPR for now but the 271 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:09,900 classification of sound events uh is 272 00:19:09,900 --> 00:19:12,660 second quarter of 2023 so just so you 273 00:19:12,660 --> 00:19:15,299 understand what that means if it didn't 274 00:19:15,299 --> 00:19:17,820 explain it well in the beginning they're 275 00:19:17,820 --> 00:19:19,980 just going to be able to tell you where 276 00:19:19,980 --> 00:19:23,280 the increase in the noise level is so if 277 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,500 the normal testicles are here and it 278 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:27,360 spikes up to a certain amount then it's 279 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,400 going to give us a notification that 280 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:32,460 there's enough tentative and then 281 00:19:32,460 --> 00:19:35,760 in bullet number three a quarter two of 282 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,640 2023 they'll be able to classify the 283 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,799 sounds meaning they'll know if it's a 284 00:19:40,799 --> 00:19:43,740 glass shattering and gunshot if it's a a 285 00:19:43,740 --> 00:19:45,780 car backfiring 286 00:19:45,780 --> 00:19:51,419 um I don't have a lot of detail on how in depth they're gonna go but 287 00:19:51,419 --> 00:19:54,360 that would be the idea that they would 288 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:56,820 be able to look at them individually and 289 00:19:56,820 --> 00:19:59,940 determine what they are and send uh you 290 00:19:59,940 --> 00:20:02,220 know keep track of them and send a 291 00:20:02,220 --> 00:20:04,510 message back to wherever we wanted to go 292 00:20:04,510 --> 00:20:05,880 [Music] 293 00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:08,820 and uh the last one is location of the 294 00:20:08,820 --> 00:20:09,960 sound events they'll be able to 295 00:20:09,960 --> 00:20:12,360 geolocate so that 296 00:20:12,360 --> 00:20:15,179 um if if the ideas were not going to go 297 00:20:15,179 --> 00:20:18,600 uh immediately out there to find out 298 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,160 what's going on with these increased 299 00:20:20,160 --> 00:20:23,580 noise if we track it on a GPS located 300 00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:26,700 map and we can look at the history we 301 00:20:26,700 --> 00:20:28,140 can find out if it's something that 302 00:20:28,140 --> 00:20:30,919 happens on a regular basis there and uh 303 00:20:30,919 --> 00:20:34,200 you know then look for extra controls to 304 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,840 go out there and uh 305 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,600 try to eliminate those issues 306 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,039 [Music] 307 00:20:41,039 --> 00:20:44,630 any questions 308 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:47,220 did you have a 309 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:49,740 potentially going to Executive sessions 310 00:20:49,740 --> 00:20:52,559 to show you some exact locations of 311 00:20:52,559 --> 00:20:54,600 where these devices are if you're 312 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,780 interested you can do that 313 00:20:57,780 --> 00:21:00,480 thanks coach any questions or comments 314 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,059 from the table Miss Brookfield so I 315 00:21:03,059 --> 00:21:04,320 wanted you if you talked about the 316 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,760 Patrols in in terms of them going out 317 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,700 so what are we have recorded and talk to 318 00:21:11,700 --> 00:21:13,799 valleys because you know that we um we 319 00:21:13,799 --> 00:21:15,840 generally have uh the tier system where 320 00:21:15,840 --> 00:21:18,000 there's priority fall and so where would 321 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:20,400 this fall in terms of that yeah so so 322 00:21:20,400 --> 00:21:22,320 obviously we're not at that point yet 323 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:24,900 but I mean for me to look at it I 324 00:21:24,900 --> 00:21:27,480 believe that uh understanding where 325 00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,179 these noise events occur and having that 326 00:21:30,179 --> 00:21:32,880 data on a map that uh you know for in 327 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:35,340 the neighborhood officers to routinely 328 00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:37,140 look at during you know certain time 329 00:21:37,140 --> 00:21:39,360 periods that it happens you know that 330 00:21:39,360 --> 00:21:41,159 would be the first step in my mind but 331 00:21:41,159 --> 00:21:43,740 obviously that would be the council 332 00:21:43,740 --> 00:21:45,419 mayor into the police department's 333 00:21:45,419 --> 00:21:47,159 determination on how they build these 334 00:21:47,159 --> 00:21:47,820 things 335 00:21:47,820 --> 00:21:49,320 thank you 336 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:50,659 just 337 00:21:50,659 --> 00:21:53,460 we've looked at a couple of these shot 338 00:21:53,460 --> 00:21:55,440 spotters one that has 339 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,100 more I think General recognition they 340 00:21:59,100 --> 00:22:03,659 only focus on gunshot detection this use 341 00:22:03,659 --> 00:22:06,120 the term microphones really more 342 00:22:06,120 --> 00:22:08,760 appropriate terms acoustical sensor 343 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,299 where microphone viewed more is just the 344 00:22:12,299 --> 00:22:14,600 range of the human voice 345 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:17,460 these are all sound events so it could 346 00:22:17,460 --> 00:22:18,960 be an auto accident could be other 347 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:22,500 alarms uh it's a more sophisticated 348 00:22:22,500 --> 00:22:25,320 analysis and they're looking to develop 349 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,419 that as part of their deployment Here in 350 00:22:27,419 --> 00:22:28,919 Schenectady 351 00:22:28,919 --> 00:22:30,780 with the other things that we're doing 352 00:22:30,780 --> 00:22:33,440 so how do you manage these 353 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:36,179 events uh maybe create a level of 354 00:22:36,179 --> 00:22:38,760 deterrence and then appropriately use 355 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:42,480 you know Public Safety resources to 356 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:43,559 find 357 00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:46,500 problem areas or 358 00:22:46,500 --> 00:22:49,020 people who choose to do things that are 359 00:22:49,020 --> 00:22:52,440 less than desirable to their neighbors 360 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:55,200 so I was also asked to see if I could 361 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720 find out what pricing would be if we do 362 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,000 not have that at this point but what 363 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,700 they did tell us obviously is we already 364 00:23:02,700 --> 00:23:05,539 have the 365 00:23:05,539 --> 00:23:08,460 microphone's analytic sensors built into 366 00:23:08,460 --> 00:23:10,980 the unit so it's strictly firmware 367 00:23:10,980 --> 00:23:14,280 updates that it has to be made to the 368 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,679 unit and then you're probably a software 369 00:23:16,679 --> 00:23:19,799 as a service charge for uh them to 370 00:23:19,799 --> 00:23:23,580 analyze that the sounds and then provide 371 00:23:23,580 --> 00:23:25,260 the feedback to us 372 00:23:25,260 --> 00:23:28,260 Mr Farley so my question is kind of more 373 00:23:28,260 --> 00:23:30,360 along the lines of us are 374 00:23:30,360 --> 00:23:32,520 you know obligation to kind of balance 375 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:34,440 Public Safety balance the tension 376 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:37,500 between Public Safety and um privacy as 377 00:23:37,500 --> 00:23:39,960 well right so when I hear you know 378 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,940 something like that like so I guess like 379 00:23:41,940 --> 00:23:43,620 are these microphones are they able to 380 00:23:43,620 --> 00:23:45,360 pick up like a consonants conversation 381 00:23:45,360 --> 00:23:47,340 that they were having that's the first 382 00:23:47,340 --> 00:23:49,799 thing I said that they do not record 383 00:23:49,799 --> 00:23:51,840 that audio what they're doing is they're 384 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:53,820 taking that right up in that street 385 00:23:53,820 --> 00:23:55,799 light head and analyzing that 386 00:23:55,799 --> 00:23:57,960 information and just and just sending 387 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:00,179 the text of what that is back to a 388 00:24:00,179 --> 00:24:04,380 dashboard and or email over to uh you 389 00:24:04,380 --> 00:24:06,539 know whoever we deemed 390 00:24:06,539 --> 00:24:08,880 um to obtain that so you know we are not 391 00:24:08,880 --> 00:24:11,460 collecting that audio information right 392 00:24:11,460 --> 00:24:13,679 because as I understood you were saying 393 00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:15,960 like there's this this kind of just a 394 00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,059 graduating thing so there's at this 395 00:24:18,059 --> 00:24:20,220 level at first you know it's just going 396 00:24:20,220 --> 00:24:21,720 to be sound detection and things like 397 00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:23,280 that so I was just my question was more 398 00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:28,140 along the lines of you know as we go to move to different 399 00:24:28,140 --> 00:24:30,059 parts of it as it starts to they're 400 00:24:30,059 --> 00:24:31,440 developing this 401 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:32,299 um 402 00:24:32,299 --> 00:24:34,740 recording the recording someone's 403 00:24:34,740 --> 00:24:36,059 conversation but being able to hear 404 00:24:36,059 --> 00:24:37,320 somebody's conversation two different 405 00:24:37,320 --> 00:24:39,240 things so I guess I'm wondering 406 00:24:39,240 --> 00:24:41,880 um do does the technology as it stands 407 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,700 right now have the ability to 408 00:24:44,700 --> 00:24:47,940 listen on to someone's conversation I 409 00:24:47,940 --> 00:24:50,100 would imagine that they would have the 410 00:24:50,100 --> 00:24:52,380 ability to build something that does 411 00:24:52,380 --> 00:24:54,659 that but it is not available to us nor 412 00:24:54,659 --> 00:24:56,880 has ever been discussed because they're 413 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,100 accomplishing out of a you know personal 414 00:24:59,100 --> 00:25:02,640 uh information as well so they they want 415 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,620 to be able to use this throughout the 416 00:25:04,620 --> 00:25:06,299 country and 417 00:25:06,299 --> 00:25:08,460 um obviously don't want to get into any 418 00:25:08,460 --> 00:25:12,059 kind of a personal data but it does 419 00:25:12,059 --> 00:25:13,799 takes the normal background noise who 420 00:25:13,799 --> 00:25:15,620 have normal traffic there's one level 421 00:25:15,620 --> 00:25:19,380 and it looks for events for things spike 422 00:25:19,380 --> 00:25:24,059 out of it and then taking that sound and 423 00:25:24,059 --> 00:25:26,880 developing a unique signature from it so 424 00:25:26,880 --> 00:25:28,860 that you know what it is it's an auto 425 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:31,679 accident is it a gunshot could it be 426 00:25:31,679 --> 00:25:34,320 thunder like what's happening or car 427 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,240 back 428 00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,100 was that kind of audio that that would 429 00:25:38,100 --> 00:25:40,620 be so much data you know if you try to 430 00:25:40,620 --> 00:25:42,539 be able to try to transfer that from 431 00:25:42,539 --> 00:25:45,900 these units so it's definitely 432 00:25:45,900 --> 00:25:48,480 I'm aware 433 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,380 any other questions so to uh Mr 434 00:25:52,380 --> 00:25:54,720 coluccio's point with the classification 435 00:25:54,720 --> 00:25:56,580 of sound events there's a fairly 436 00:25:56,580 --> 00:25:58,620 substantial 437 00:25:58,620 --> 00:25:59,640 um 438 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:02,220 application going on right now to 439 00:26:02,220 --> 00:26:04,500 identify these and get them into the AI 440 00:26:04,500 --> 00:26:06,840 environment in order to make those 441 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760 classifications so that's coming pretty 442 00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:11,880 rapidly if if it's not already here and 443 00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:14,279 could you just speak briefly about the 444 00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:16,740 lower technology and how they might be 445 00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:19,740 able to integrate those with what we 446 00:26:19,740 --> 00:26:21,900 have that's obviously much more 447 00:26:21,900 --> 00:26:24,659 sophisticated sure well I mean Aurora 448 00:26:24,659 --> 00:26:27,120 technology is for those of you that 449 00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:29,960 don't know it's a communication standard 450 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:33,360 you're able to put a couple of three 451 00:26:33,360 --> 00:26:35,460 four gateways through the entire city 452 00:26:35,460 --> 00:26:38,700 and then connect different types of 453 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:40,460 devices 454 00:26:40,460 --> 00:26:42,600 that you're looking to try to get 455 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,880 feedback from so those different devices 456 00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,039 if there's just so many of them out 457 00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:50,000 there they could be border sensors 458 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:53,279 temperature sensors smoke detectors uh 459 00:26:53,279 --> 00:26:56,580 there's a uh flood sensors you're going 460 00:26:56,580 --> 00:26:59,159 to look at it to measure the height of 461 00:26:59,159 --> 00:27:02,760 the the river and you know exactly you 462 00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:05,039 know hour by hour what the level is 463 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:06,779 there's just so many things out there 464 00:27:06,779 --> 00:27:09,059 that you uh connect and again the 465 00:27:09,059 --> 00:27:11,580 advantage is it's very low power so you 466 00:27:11,580 --> 00:27:13,679 can use batteries that they can be 467 00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:17,059 Standalone battery units that 468 00:27:17,059 --> 00:27:28,610 lasts for a very long time as well 469 00:27:28,620 --> 00:27:31,140 any other questions or comments so while 470 00:27:31,140 --> 00:27:34,500 this certainly isn't the uh end-all 471 00:27:34,500 --> 00:27:36,779 be-all solution to the noise issue that 472 00:27:36,779 --> 00:27:39,299 we have it is the beginning 473 00:27:39,299 --> 00:27:39,900 um 474 00:27:39,900 --> 00:27:41,580 it's one of the biggest complaints I 475 00:27:41,580 --> 00:27:44,640 think we all receive and uh it is a 476 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:48,140 starting point to try to at least 477 00:27:48,140 --> 00:27:50,700 alleviate some of the issues that we 478 00:27:50,700 --> 00:27:55,140 hear in the name it's a tool a tool a 479 00:27:55,140 --> 00:27:57,900 tool just like you would be using um to 480 00:27:57,900 --> 00:28:00,179 determine where police Falls are 481 00:28:00,179 --> 00:28:02,460 throughout the neighborhood or the 482 00:28:02,460 --> 00:28:04,679 higher call to understand if there's 483 00:28:04,679 --> 00:28:06,179 something you know going on in 484 00:28:06,179 --> 00:28:07,980 particular area so if you have this 485 00:28:07,980 --> 00:28:11,159 information and um you know it gives us 486 00:28:11,159 --> 00:28:13,860 the ability to enforce it better and 487 00:28:13,860 --> 00:28:15,900 improve the quality of life for our 488 00:28:15,900 --> 00:28:18,000 residents 489 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,640 oh thank you Mr Kutcher for the local 490 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,480 assistance so my guess is uh Miss mainly 491 00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,820 for Andrew Luck so well why do we need 492 00:28:26,820 --> 00:28:29,820 to go into executive session to to talk 493 00:28:29,820 --> 00:28:31,080 about where the where they're placed at 494 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:32,880 that's just my question why would we 495 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:34,440 have to do that 496 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:35,580 well 497 00:28:35,580 --> 00:28:36,840 there is 498 00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,539 five minutes 499 00:28:38,539 --> 00:28:42,480 obviously the location of cameras 500 00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:45,120 um is you know you can obviously see 501 00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:46,980 them but in terms of direction of the 502 00:28:46,980 --> 00:28:48,840 cameras there's certainly Public Safety 503 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,720 considerations that need to be taken 504 00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:53,400 into consideration 505 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,260 um when reviewing the cameras to see 506 00:28:55,260 --> 00:28:57,960 what type of cameras they are and their 507 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:02,330 placement on the particular polls 508 00:29:02,340 --> 00:29:04,020 um because they are used obviously for 509 00:29:04,020 --> 00:29:06,000 law enforcement investigations and so 510 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:10,250 forth 511 00:29:10,260 --> 00:29:12,179 so thank you Mr cliche for the brief 512 00:29:12,179 --> 00:29:14,279 definitely one of my questions I don't 513 00:29:14,279 --> 00:29:15,840 know if councilman follow me is able to 514 00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,380 answer definitely as we hear more about 515 00:29:18,380 --> 00:29:20,640 expansive and immersive technology like 516 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,820 becoming more technologically advanced 517 00:29:22,820 --> 00:29:26,220 action net service line hopefully on my 518 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:27,779 own it's premature it's going to be 519 00:29:27,779 --> 00:29:29,580 coming to our Police Department so it's 520 00:29:29,580 --> 00:29:31,860 trying to understand is this tool of 521 00:29:31,860 --> 00:29:33,899 resource able to be integrative into 522 00:29:33,899 --> 00:29:36,419 that or is it to some lesser degree 523 00:29:36,419 --> 00:29:39,179 maybe duplicated so I don't know if 524 00:29:39,179 --> 00:29:41,220 that's been open to but just definitely 525 00:29:41,220 --> 00:29:42,960 since we're looking at potentially 526 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,820 spending more dollars I would want to 527 00:29:44,820 --> 00:29:47,279 make sure that we're maximizing range 528 00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:49,799 I mean you know I don't believe this 529 00:29:49,799 --> 00:29:52,200 either to be honest with you because I 530 00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:55,020 think it's a supplemental device that uh 531 00:29:55,020 --> 00:29:57,240 you know again is not something that we 532 00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,100 currently are using we don't have the 533 00:29:59,100 --> 00:30:01,020 ability to provide that kind of 534 00:30:01,020 --> 00:30:02,159 information 535 00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:02,700 um 536 00:30:02,700 --> 00:30:06,419 certainly the ability to use it for 537 00:30:06,419 --> 00:30:09,659 gunshot detection would be huge for us I 538 00:30:09,659 --> 00:30:11,039 don't have the numbers and I certainly 539 00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:12,240 don't want to speak for the police 540 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,200 department but I believe uh 50 UH 60 70 541 00:30:16,200 --> 00:30:19,260 percent of gunshots vote undetected 542 00:30:19,260 --> 00:30:22,200 uh that's because people think other 543 00:30:22,200 --> 00:30:24,179 people report them they don't know their 544 00:30:24,179 --> 00:30:26,700 gunshots there's a lot out there 545 00:30:26,700 --> 00:30:29,100 historically from what I've read from 546 00:30:29,100 --> 00:30:31,980 different cities that uh 547 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:36,539 have the reports and unreported gunshots 548 00:30:36,539 --> 00:30:39,179 good point uh Miss Colleen Did you have 549 00:30:39,179 --> 00:30:40,980 any intent with this discussion right 550 00:30:40,980 --> 00:30:41,820 now 551 00:30:41,820 --> 00:30:43,919 not at this point I think it's something 552 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:47,399 we'll keep addressing maybe once a month 553 00:30:47,399 --> 00:30:50,520 or so because it is such a big issue and 554 00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:54,600 uh you know routinely get comments and 555 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,059 complaints about noise so we'll keep 556 00:30:57,059 --> 00:30:59,159 this on the agenda I mean quarter one at 557 00:30:59,159 --> 00:31:01,860 23 is not that far away you know it'll 558 00:31:01,860 --> 00:31:03,480 be here before you know it so I'll be 559 00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,059 more than happy to keep an eye on it 560 00:31:06,059 --> 00:31:08,220 follow it up and come and talk to you 561 00:31:08,220 --> 00:31:12,080 again with the set so we can keep going 562 00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,460 that's up to you I mean if you're 563 00:31:14,460 --> 00:31:15,960 interested fine we can do it another 564 00:31:15,960 --> 00:31:19,730 time everyone 565 00:31:19,740 --> 00:31:20,880 thank you 566 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:23,580 because we've recessity so I say recess 567 00:31:23,580 --> 00:31:25,880 to exact position 568 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:42,030 oh emotional recess second all in favor 569 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:50,630 [Music] 570 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:52,720 foreign 571 00:31:52,720 --> 00:32:06,909 [Music] 572 00:32:06,919 --> 00:32:09,679 government operations and we have one 573 00:32:09,679 --> 00:32:12,720 agenda item and it has around implicit 574 00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,200 virus training 575 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:15,600 [Music] 576 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:16,640 um 577 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:21,260 yes so um well we almost happened lately 578 00:32:21,260 --> 00:32:24,840 we also know that back in the well maybe 579 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:26,760 you don't remember but we did have the 580 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,500 discussion around this very similar 581 00:32:28,500 --> 00:32:32,580 thing in March and unfortunately we're 582 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,919 here again so clearly there's a need for 583 00:32:34,919 --> 00:32:37,320 it and so 584 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:38,760 um I was you know after our last 585 00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:40,919 discussion which we kind of had some of 586 00:32:40,919 --> 00:32:43,200 that discussion at this table 587 00:32:43,200 --> 00:32:46,020 it obviously has not resolved things to 588 00:32:46,020 --> 00:32:47,700 the point that they need to be resolved 589 00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:49,260 so weak so that we as a council can move 590 00:32:49,260 --> 00:32:51,120 along effectively and make sure that 591 00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:52,799 things are getting done without all this 592 00:32:52,799 --> 00:32:54,659 being let's just following is the 593 00:32:54,659 --> 00:32:56,039 inviting that's clearly been out there 594 00:32:56,039 --> 00:32:58,380 in the public and all of that 595 00:32:58,380 --> 00:32:59,940 um so even though some things are 596 00:32:59,940 --> 00:33:02,340 getting done they are not getting done 597 00:33:02,340 --> 00:33:06,179 probably as smoothly as they could so 598 00:33:06,179 --> 00:33:09,480 we're back here again and um I as I said 599 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,880 in March we should have we should 600 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,500 consider implicit bias training now I'm 601 00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:15,779 highly recommending that we do that and 602 00:33:15,779 --> 00:33:18,240 that we find a an organization that 603 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,279 first of all that is not none of us are 604 00:33:20,279 --> 00:33:21,779 really connected to I know that we've 605 00:33:21,779 --> 00:33:23,940 had some local groups doing it in 606 00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:26,039 Niskayuna but those are all people that 607 00:33:26,039 --> 00:33:27,539 we know are connected on one level or 608 00:33:27,539 --> 00:33:30,600 another so to find an organization that 609 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,419 will come in and to do this training I'm 610 00:33:33,419 --> 00:33:34,740 recommending that and I would like 611 00:33:34,740 --> 00:33:36,860 feedback from the Council on that I will 612 00:33:36,860 --> 00:33:39,779 be talking to HR in terms of training 613 00:33:39,779 --> 00:33:41,220 dollars because it's not going to be 614 00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:44,580 free but it is I believe necessary and 615 00:33:44,580 --> 00:33:46,500 so I'm opening that up for discussion 616 00:33:46,500 --> 00:33:49,440 and how if others have thoughts on that 617 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:52,679 or or suggestions or just want to 618 00:33:52,679 --> 00:33:57,610 discuss it in general 619 00:33:57,620 --> 00:34:00,960 yeah I think that you know it's 620 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:03,360 definitely something I need to do I 621 00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:06,059 think that you know we are saying words 622 00:34:06,059 --> 00:34:07,980 and often you know 623 00:34:07,980 --> 00:34:10,020 if you say something and not have the 624 00:34:10,020 --> 00:34:11,460 same understanding of the term that 625 00:34:11,460 --> 00:34:13,560 we're using so I think that you know we 626 00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:15,060 need to have some shared understanding 627 00:34:15,060 --> 00:34:17,399 of words and Concepts and how they apply 628 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:18,859 and I think that 629 00:34:18,859 --> 00:34:23,940 none of us is above uh perpetuating on a 630 00:34:23,940 --> 00:34:27,119 certain ideology or outcome whether 631 00:34:27,119 --> 00:34:29,339 that's conscious or unconsciously so I 632 00:34:29,339 --> 00:34:31,080 think that it's really important you 633 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:32,879 know and I think the content Point 634 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:35,580 around like in fighting I think that 635 00:34:35,580 --> 00:34:38,460 we all are adults and we all have you 636 00:34:38,460 --> 00:34:40,500 know even in our different jobs and 637 00:34:40,500 --> 00:34:42,780 things like that we've had problems I'm 638 00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:45,119 sure with people at our job I'm sure the 639 00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,679 public can relate to that but I think 640 00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,359 that you still go to work and you still 641 00:34:48,359 --> 00:34:50,399 do your job right and I think that this 642 00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,560 just would just put us in a position to 643 00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:55,919 do our job more effectively and looking 644 00:34:55,919 --> 00:34:57,599 through the appropriate lens as we make 645 00:34:57,599 --> 00:34:59,220 very vital decisions that impact the 646 00:34:59,220 --> 00:35:00,660 material conditions of people that live 647 00:35:00,660 --> 00:35:09,950 here I'm poor 648 00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,599 um so I would be in support of it as 649 00:35:12,599 --> 00:35:14,339 well I think that you know we were in 650 00:35:14,339 --> 00:35:16,859 support of it back in March as well so 651 00:35:16,859 --> 00:35:19,560 um I do think that um work for us as 652 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,680 Leaders to be able to explore 653 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:25,320 um you know whether it's about different 654 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:26,960 religions whether it's about different 655 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,400 economic backgrounds which comes up a 656 00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:30,359 lot 657 00:35:30,359 --> 00:35:34,619 um genders Etc I think that it would be helpful for us I think it 658 00:35:34,619 --> 00:35:36,540 would be helpful for all the leaders 659 00:35:36,540 --> 00:35:37,920 within the city 660 00:35:37,920 --> 00:35:41,040 um so it might be worthwhile for HR to 661 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,980 actually be asked if they would put 662 00:35:43,980 --> 00:35:46,440 together some implicit bias training 663 00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,520 that many people in the city 664 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:51,960 departments as well as city council 665 00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:54,540 would take part in so I would be 666 00:35:54,540 --> 00:36:00,890 supportive of it 667 00:36:00,900 --> 00:36:03,720 Council and not include the larger 668 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:05,099 audience that you suggested because 669 00:36:05,099 --> 00:36:06,839 we're dealing with what's going on right 670 00:36:06,839 --> 00:36:08,040 now with the council I'm not saying 671 00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:09,900 that's not a good idea I have however I 672 00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:11,339 think it needs to be separate and apart 673 00:36:11,339 --> 00:36:14,099 from what we do here as a council and we 674 00:36:14,099 --> 00:36:16,560 make sure that we focus that we knit 675 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,359 together this relationship and and do 676 00:36:18,359 --> 00:36:20,400 what we need to do as a council so if 677 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,200 they want to do it outside and we for 678 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:24,060 the staff in terms of the staff we don't 679 00:36:24,060 --> 00:36:25,800 we can't speak to that that has to be 680 00:36:25,800 --> 00:36:27,480 something that the mayor says yes it can 681 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,560 or cannot happen 682 00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:31,500 so um so for me it's really about us 683 00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:33,480 making sure that as a council because 684 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,940 that's right now with the what the 685 00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:40,190 situation is it needs to be addressed 686 00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,200 um so again I would be um in support of 687 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:44,579 any program 688 00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:46,920 um that helps unify the council 689 00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:48,720 um I was in favor of it and we all spoke 690 00:36:48,720 --> 00:36:50,880 about it and we're waiting for it to 691 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:53,220 happen prior to all this I know a lot of 692 00:36:53,220 --> 00:36:55,500 things going on so I would definitely be 693 00:36:55,500 --> 00:36:58,859 in support of of any type of training be 694 00:36:58,859 --> 00:37:02,630 very useful to all of us 695 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:04,500 any further discussion 696 00:37:04,500 --> 00:37:07,380 so at this point in time I will look at 697 00:37:07,380 --> 00:37:09,180 look out you know reach out and look at 698 00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:10,560 look for firms that do it that are kind 699 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:12,359 of local so that and and how we can pay 700 00:37:12,359 --> 00:37:14,280 for it and all that so I invite all of 701 00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,320 anybody else who wants to do that and to 702 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:18,480 forward that information should bring 703 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:21,240 that forward and then move that um as as 704 00:37:21,240 --> 00:37:25,200 quickly as possible sister my name is so 705 00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,240 suggestion that the human resources 706 00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,520 department don't do it we might be able 707 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,700 to have the city insurance company pay 708 00:37:32,700 --> 00:37:34,380 for all this training as they do with 709 00:37:34,380 --> 00:37:36,359 some of the other trainings so that 710 00:37:36,359 --> 00:37:39,000 might be something that would be 711 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,940 beneficial and then that could also then 712 00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:43,859 hopefully be extended to every single 713 00:37:43,859 --> 00:37:45,960 City employee 714 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:48,359 so I think I I think that's a good 715 00:37:48,359 --> 00:37:50,040 suggestion and also 716 00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:52,920 as far as R we have a very unique um 717 00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,020 responsibility the decisions that we 718 00:37:55,020 --> 00:37:57,900 make so and you know 719 00:37:57,900 --> 00:38:00,420 make sure that we have a 720 00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:02,579 um a training that is responsive to our 721 00:38:02,579 --> 00:38:06,240 need and it really kind of removes some 722 00:38:06,240 --> 00:38:07,740 of the layers and helps us understand 723 00:38:07,740 --> 00:38:10,440 how our own life experiences and 724 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,020 ideologies show up in the decision we 725 00:38:13,020 --> 00:38:15,240 make um and I think that that's a 726 00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:17,339 different training or different 727 00:38:17,339 --> 00:38:19,680 professional development than kind of 728 00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:20,820 the larger 729 00:38:20,820 --> 00:38:21,540 um 730 00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:23,880 uh that larger audience but they 731 00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:25,680 definitely work together and they 732 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:28,140 definitely can you know kind of um can 733 00:38:28,140 --> 00:38:29,700 build off each other but I think that we 734 00:38:29,700 --> 00:38:31,320 have a really 735 00:38:31,320 --> 00:38:32,640 um 736 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:34,380 we have to be intentional about making 737 00:38:34,380 --> 00:38:36,240 sure that we are 738 00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,760 getting some information that helps us 739 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:40,859 better make the decisions that we're 740 00:38:40,859 --> 00:38:43,079 making and so I want to you know make 741 00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:44,640 sure that we we don't conflate those two 742 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,619 things because kind of to your point but 743 00:38:46,619 --> 00:38:48,359 so I don't think it's either or it's a 744 00:38:48,359 --> 00:38:49,740 yes and I think we're all on the same 745 00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:52,079 page which is a good thing on honest so 746 00:38:52,079 --> 00:38:54,060 Mr Williams just for records since 747 00:38:54,060 --> 00:38:55,200 everyone else spoke because it was 748 00:38:55,200 --> 00:38:57,060 appropriate for me to add my two cents I 749 00:38:57,060 --> 00:38:59,040 think whenever you discuss a training I 750 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,079 think the positive is it provides you 751 00:39:01,079 --> 00:39:03,060 the opportunity to pause and then 752 00:39:03,060 --> 00:39:05,220 reflect and then provide you the tools 753 00:39:05,220 --> 00:39:07,160 and resources to be able to 754 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,420 strategically address some issues moving 755 00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:11,099 forward so I definitely would not be 756 00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:13,079 opposed to that and I definitely look 757 00:39:13,079 --> 00:39:14,820 forward to hearing more discussions 758 00:39:14,820 --> 00:39:17,040 about this and I appreciate um support 759 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,580 field putting this on agenda 760 00:39:19,580 --> 00:39:21,780 [Music] 761 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,480 again it's time for the discussion so um 762 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:26,040 in two weeks I'll bring it back with the 763 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,300 information that we talked about again 764 00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:29,579 if anyone has a suggestions please email 765 00:39:29,579 --> 00:39:32,280 them to me okay and I will speak with HR 766 00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,800 regarding um possible opportunity to 767 00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,579 class to cover the cost okay thank you 768 00:39:38,579 --> 00:39:41,390 okay 769 00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:49,690 with that I will uh 770 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:52,320 thank you 771 00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:53,760 call the order stage development 772 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,040 planning we have six items on the agenda 773 00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,200 uh the first item is the ceremonial 774 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:00,180 resolution for Italian American Heritage 775 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:03,180 and culture month Mr palomini we do this 776 00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:04,619 every year 777 00:40:04,619 --> 00:40:05,280 um 778 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,380 this would just be the same thing we 779 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:09,780 usually do but it will be presented at 780 00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:12,480 the sons of Italy celebration I believe 781 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,900 it's October 15th 782 00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:20,230 oh it's better 783 00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:23,460 second all those in favor aye 784 00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:25,920 okay next item on the agenda is a 785 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,140 ceremony resolution Rotary International 786 00:40:28,140 --> 00:40:30,660 World polio day yes this is Patrick 787 00:40:30,660 --> 00:40:33,480 thank you on October 24th which is a 788 00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:36,119 date that we meet uh is actually World 789 00:40:36,119 --> 00:40:38,820 polio day Rotary International has been 790 00:40:38,820 --> 00:40:40,380 for years 791 00:40:40,380 --> 00:40:43,500 um invested in on trying to eradicate 792 00:40:43,500 --> 00:40:46,260 polio from our world we came very very 793 00:40:46,260 --> 00:40:48,240 close to doing so and for some reason 794 00:40:48,240 --> 00:40:50,940 it's popping back up again probably with 795 00:40:50,940 --> 00:40:53,760 in relation to the vaccination piece 796 00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,740 um that's why it's happening our 797 00:40:55,740 --> 00:40:58,500 Schenectady rotary clubs in general all 798 00:40:58,500 --> 00:41:00,960 do work raise money have programs 799 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,839 educational programs Etc 800 00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:07,079 so I'd like to ask that we have a 801 00:41:07,079 --> 00:41:09,060 resolution that we would present on 802 00:41:09,060 --> 00:41:11,760 October 24th to members of the sky the 803 00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:14,160 president and the polio chair of the 804 00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:16,140 Schenectady Rotary Club 805 00:41:16,140 --> 00:41:19,609 any discussion 806 00:41:19,619 --> 00:41:24,230 so moved second always 807 00:41:24,240 --> 00:41:26,760 I'm three it starts with me anti-linear 808 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,260 action plan 809 00:41:28,260 --> 00:41:32,220 um Mr Toro Ms Patrick Mr Palmyra 810 00:41:32,220 --> 00:41:34,079 I can start 811 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:37,020 um so a couple of weeks ago we we gave 812 00:41:37,020 --> 00:41:40,460 you all the um the it starts with me 813 00:41:40,460 --> 00:41:43,079 anti-litter action plan and we were 814 00:41:43,079 --> 00:41:44,640 basically just looking for some feedback 815 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,099 and your thoughts on some of the ideas 816 00:41:47,099 --> 00:41:48,900 and suggestions 817 00:41:48,900 --> 00:41:50,400 um we'd like to move forward with some 818 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,020 of these so that's another piece that we 819 00:41:52,020 --> 00:41:54,359 look for your 820 00:41:54,359 --> 00:41:56,880 ideas on you know some of this to pull 821 00:41:56,880 --> 00:41:58,500 out but you know sort of from Big 822 00:41:58,500 --> 00:42:00,839 Picture general what did you think uh 823 00:42:00,839 --> 00:42:02,520 down to what are some of the things that 824 00:42:02,520 --> 00:42:04,500 we could start with 825 00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:07,980 um so I leave it open to discussion if 826 00:42:07,980 --> 00:42:09,960 you haven't started starting point that 827 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,300 you were thinking about 828 00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:14,460 um I think that in terms of some of the 829 00:42:14,460 --> 00:42:16,200 lower hanging fruit one one of the 830 00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,720 things um that I think would be 831 00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:22,320 um not easy but one of the lower hanging 832 00:42:22,320 --> 00:42:24,240 fruit I guess I should say would be the 833 00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:26,520 idea of talking to businesses in the 834 00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:29,040 city and perhaps requiring that business 835 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:31,680 small businesses in the city have their 836 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,440 trash cans put out in front of them 837 00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,359 um so they would be required I mean that 838 00:42:36,359 --> 00:42:37,500 would be something we really would need 839 00:42:37,500 --> 00:42:40,020 to talk about as a council to require 840 00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:42,320 businesses to have trash receptive 841 00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:45,480 receptacles and to be responsible for 842 00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:48,180 making sure that the front of their area 843 00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:51,960 of their business is kept clean I think 844 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:53,940 we all probably see that at different 845 00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:55,380 sites around around the city that 846 00:42:55,380 --> 00:42:57,240 sometimes it's just you know a ton of 847 00:42:57,240 --> 00:42:59,339 trash out in front of some of our small 848 00:42:59,339 --> 00:43:00,960 businesses so that was one of the areas 849 00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,839 that I was thinking about 850 00:43:02,839 --> 00:43:05,700 and I don't know if you want to add 851 00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,619 anything here um I thought we would pull 852 00:43:07,619 --> 00:43:09,680 from that at first seeing that 853 00:43:09,680 --> 00:43:12,359 the trash cans and also 854 00:43:12,359 --> 00:43:14,480 um just designating perhaps an employee 855 00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,160 during some off time after a few 856 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:18,900 McDonald's back in high school and 857 00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:21,359 things and Stewart shops especially have 858 00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:22,920 someone out there all the time picking 859 00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:24,839 up the trash and then presenting them 860 00:43:24,839 --> 00:43:27,240 with a certificate maybe once a month or 861 00:43:27,240 --> 00:43:27,980 something 862 00:43:27,980 --> 00:43:30,599 quite a few I'm sure we all drive around 863 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:33,440 the city and there's 864 00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:36,180 multiple times a day 865 00:43:36,180 --> 00:43:36,960 um 866 00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:39,119 a lot of businesses just don't seem to 867 00:43:39,119 --> 00:43:41,940 care and kind of chain businesses too 868 00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:43,440 and what's it take just to go out and 869 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,540 pick up a few pieces of trash 870 00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:48,180 and put it in a plastic bag receptacles 871 00:43:48,180 --> 00:43:51,560 aren't expensive and um you know 872 00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:55,859 appropriate receptacles I know um 873 00:43:55,859 --> 00:43:58,680 I know Metroplex does fund sometimes a 874 00:43:58,680 --> 00:44:00,000 few of them they just did a whole bunch 875 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:01,980 on Crane Street again those are all 876 00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:03,960 things we're looking into but just in 877 00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:05,520 the meanwhile just you know stopping in 878 00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,260 businesses getting a list asking them 879 00:44:07,260 --> 00:44:10,319 just to pick up on a daily basis and you 880 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:11,700 know at the end of the month we you know 881 00:44:11,700 --> 00:44:13,920 go we present a certificate you know 882 00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:15,060 thanks for keeping the neighborhood 883 00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:16,859 clean so that's where I thought we were 884 00:44:16,859 --> 00:44:18,660 we could pull from which wouldn't be 885 00:44:18,660 --> 00:44:20,880 much money at all at first so 886 00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:23,400 yeah I think the garbage cans is 887 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:25,260 something that is a good starting point 888 00:44:25,260 --> 00:44:27,240 for discussion 889 00:44:27,240 --> 00:44:30,359 um requiring that these businesses have 890 00:44:30,359 --> 00:44:33,119 them but also maintain them because we 891 00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:34,859 all know businesses that have them and 892 00:44:34,859 --> 00:44:37,440 there's garbage everywhere because 893 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:39,599 they're not emptying them so that's a 894 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:42,660 big problem and perhaps an easy starting 895 00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:45,300 point where we can all get on board is 896 00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:48,599 the certificates of a business saying 897 00:44:48,599 --> 00:44:50,280 yeah I'm agreeing to these whatever 898 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,540 principles and they have the certificate 899 00:44:54,540 --> 00:44:58,079 that they can present and display that 900 00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:01,200 they're part of this and that that might 901 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,720 be an easy starting point and then the 902 00:45:03,720 --> 00:45:05,520 discussion of the garbage cans have 903 00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,800 obviously take perhaps a little bit more 904 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:11,819 but I would imagine most of us could 905 00:45:11,819 --> 00:45:13,800 you know with some tweaking get on board 906 00:45:13,800 --> 00:45:17,690 with things like that 907 00:45:17,700 --> 00:45:20,040 Mr Williams so I don't know if I'd go as 908 00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,420 far as to say this business is not 909 00:45:21,420 --> 00:45:23,040 caring and they're working at Ortho New 910 00:45:23,040 --> 00:45:25,020 York and downtown Schenectady sometimes 911 00:45:25,020 --> 00:45:27,240 the wind will just blow trash so I think 912 00:45:27,240 --> 00:45:28,440 some of it is just displaced 913 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,300 accountability where some people may be 914 00:45:30,300 --> 00:45:31,920 expecting the city to clean it up 915 00:45:31,920 --> 00:45:34,020 however the city is functioning with the 916 00:45:34,020 --> 00:45:35,640 business owners need to take it and 917 00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:37,740 address that themselves I think having 918 00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:40,500 business owners identify that yes this 919 00:45:40,500 --> 00:45:43,440 will be a aspect of your storefront that 920 00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,079 you will maintain is appropriate so I 921 00:45:46,079 --> 00:45:48,180 definitely think that this would be a 922 00:45:48,180 --> 00:45:50,520 good start definitely with having trust 923 00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:51,960 receptacles present I think the only 924 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:53,280 thing that I want to make sure is that 925 00:45:53,280 --> 00:45:56,280 there was a an outline for removing said 926 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:58,560 trash or if it is not picked up in a 927 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,060 timely manner who would ultimately have 928 00:46:00,060 --> 00:46:01,920 to maintain it just because we could 929 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:04,740 ultimately make the situation worse by 930 00:46:04,740 --> 00:46:06,839 piling up the trash only to tip over and 931 00:46:06,839 --> 00:46:08,099 blow down the street which I would not 932 00:46:08,099 --> 00:46:10,970 want to happen 933 00:46:10,980 --> 00:46:13,800 so in terms of the the signal the 934 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:15,060 signage that you're talking about you're 935 00:46:15,060 --> 00:46:16,260 talking about something coming up from 936 00:46:16,260 --> 00:46:18,300 the mayor's office that says from the 937 00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:19,680 central city of Schenectady so it's 938 00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,440 through the mayor's office 939 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,660 it doesn't really matter but there's 940 00:46:24,660 --> 00:46:28,560 examples and uh in the packet 941 00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:30,839 um just something a business saying you 942 00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:32,940 know what these are the principles we 943 00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:36,660 agreed to and uh we want to keep our 944 00:46:36,660 --> 00:46:39,900 establishment clean and we're displaying 945 00:46:39,900 --> 00:46:42,119 this as you know we're on board that's 946 00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:46,040 and it sends a message to the patronage 947 00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:49,079 that yeah this business is going to keep 948 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:51,300 try to keep it clean and we should do 949 00:46:51,300 --> 00:46:53,400 our part hopefully and put it in the 950 00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:54,780 garbage can 951 00:46:54,780 --> 00:46:56,760 so as I mentioned before if you talk to 952 00:46:56,760 --> 00:46:58,500 Mr Pond and I'm not sure if you did at 953 00:46:58,500 --> 00:46:59,880 this point because there's been some 954 00:46:59,880 --> 00:47:03,000 ongoing discussion uh regarding trash 955 00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:05,460 and how much of it and all that and part 956 00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:06,900 of that discussion was around the 957 00:47:06,900 --> 00:47:08,099 businesses that's why I was wondering if 958 00:47:08,099 --> 00:47:09,900 you and I actually haven't I haven't 959 00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,440 spoken to him yet so I know that he um 960 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,300 this the mayor 961 00:47:15,300 --> 00:47:17,700 um and myself and um 962 00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:19,680 Mr O'Hearn have met and that was that 963 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:21,000 was part of the discussion so that's why 964 00:47:21,000 --> 00:47:23,339 I wanted to make sure that if there's an 965 00:47:23,339 --> 00:47:25,260 overlap there that we are all talking 966 00:47:25,260 --> 00:47:27,060 the same language and moving in the same 967 00:47:27,060 --> 00:47:28,440 direction yeah we would have to make 968 00:47:28,440 --> 00:47:30,960 sure of that so yeah um I will make 969 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:35,630 myself a note and and do that 970 00:47:35,640 --> 00:47:38,040 I don't know that if he has seen this 971 00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,880 proposal I haven't given it to him oh I 972 00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:44,880 don't know okay Carl do you have Mr 973 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,319 Williams do you have one I wasn't sure 974 00:47:46,319 --> 00:47:47,400 because you weren't here at the last 975 00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:52,190 okay I brought an extra copy in case 976 00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:55,099 would you any other but oh sorry 977 00:47:55,099 --> 00:47:57,540 but I think it's one thing we all can 978 00:47:57,540 --> 00:47:59,220 agree on is that something needs to be 979 00:47:59,220 --> 00:48:02,819 done I mean to keep the trash out the streets 980 00:48:02,819 --> 00:48:05,640 and as far as receptacles I mean every 981 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:08,099 city trash can again Mr Williams good 982 00:48:08,099 --> 00:48:10,260 point uh the one in front of front of my 983 00:48:10,260 --> 00:48:11,339 business 984 00:48:11,339 --> 00:48:15,119 um is empty by the city so again on 985 00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,460 who's supplying the receptacles would 986 00:48:17,460 --> 00:48:19,260 depend on who would need to empty them 987 00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:22,800 so I would think well 988 00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:25,260 get a beat on that as well yeah but it's 989 00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:27,420 something that really needs to start I 990 00:48:27,420 --> 00:48:28,680 can speak to that when we put them out 991 00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:30,599 in our in our community 992 00:48:30,599 --> 00:48:32,700 um they were the city workers had to do 993 00:48:32,700 --> 00:48:34,980 it yes so which is why as I said before 994 00:48:34,980 --> 00:48:36,599 I went to meet with them and talk to 995 00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:37,859 them you're going to have 28 more trash 996 00:48:37,859 --> 00:48:40,440 cans now to empty so if we're talking 997 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:42,000 about the businesses and asking the 998 00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,440 business which I think is makes sense 999 00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:45,180 asking them to be responsible they have 1000 00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:47,160 to put out trash anyway right so just 1001 00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,380 you know emptying that it would just be 1002 00:48:49,380 --> 00:48:53,160 one other bag and I know that um well 1003 00:48:53,160 --> 00:48:54,660 there's a particular business that I 1004 00:48:54,660 --> 00:48:55,680 heard from the other days they don't 1005 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:56,819 want trash in front of their business 1006 00:48:56,819 --> 00:48:58,859 and he's like can you move the trash can 1007 00:48:58,859 --> 00:49:02,460 because it wasn't being empty so uh so 1008 00:49:02,460 --> 00:49:04,079 businesses are clearly concerned about 1009 00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:06,900 that um so yes but we just have to make 1010 00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:08,520 sure who's going to be responsible so 1011 00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,220 and I also know that 1012 00:49:11,220 --> 00:49:13,740 the Sweet Streets we proceed to think 1013 00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:16,319 that the trash that's in the street gets 1014 00:49:16,319 --> 00:49:17,940 all done by the collectible street 1015 00:49:17,940 --> 00:49:19,200 sweeper but it doesn't necessarily 1016 00:49:19,200 --> 00:49:20,220 because 1017 00:49:20,220 --> 00:49:21,740 probably the next day there's more there 1018 00:49:21,740 --> 00:49:23,880 right right after they've already gone 1019 00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,859 through so we definitely need to you 1020 00:49:25,859 --> 00:49:27,660 know I'm not sure exactly what your list 1021 00:49:27,660 --> 00:49:28,800 of priorities and how you want to 1022 00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:29,880 prioritize and where you want to start 1023 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,420 but definitely I 100 agree it's 1024 00:49:33,420 --> 00:49:34,920 something we've been battling for a long 1025 00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:36,480 time that we need to continue to move 1026 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,839 forward Mr Farley yeah so what I what I 1027 00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:42,000 like about what you guys presented on at 1028 00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:43,980 our last meeting was that this is a 1029 00:49:43,980 --> 00:49:46,200 multi-pronged approach here and I think 1030 00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:49,260 that we don't want to live you know 1031 00:49:49,260 --> 00:49:51,119 the great be the enemy of the good or 1032 00:49:51,119 --> 00:49:52,619 very personally we just want to say like 1033 00:49:52,619 --> 00:49:54,060 so you know 1034 00:49:54,060 --> 00:49:56,520 it is a good opportunity for the city to 1035 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:59,220 collaborate with business owners and I 1036 00:49:59,220 --> 00:50:00,480 would say 1037 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:02,700 I would think most reasonable business 1038 00:50:02,700 --> 00:50:06,480 owners you know if they recognize that 1039 00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,119 we are paying attention and we're saying 1040 00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:10,800 hey you know this is expectation for you 1041 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:13,680 to do business in the city and if you're 1042 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,339 doing business responsibility and you're 1043 00:50:17,339 --> 00:50:20,460 upholding these values then a way to 1044 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:22,200 celebrate people I think to incentivize 1045 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:24,720 behavior is always a good thing 1046 00:50:24,720 --> 00:50:26,160 um so 1047 00:50:26,160 --> 00:50:28,500 you know we do have to be mindful about 1048 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:30,720 you know small businesses and you know 1049 00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:32,700 one thing about our small business you 1050 00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:33,960 never have enough money you never have 1051 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,540 enough time so we want to make sure that 1052 00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:38,640 we're our expectations are in line with 1053 00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:39,960 them and we're looking ways to support 1054 00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,359 them through that but I think that it 1055 00:50:42,359 --> 00:50:45,599 doesn't have to be you know it can it 1056 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:48,180 you know we can start with just you know 1057 00:50:48,180 --> 00:50:49,859 conversations with business owners like 1058 00:50:49,859 --> 00:50:51,480 hey this is the effort that we're trying 1059 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:53,160 to do and I think this isn't something 1060 00:50:53,160 --> 00:50:55,319 that's necessarily new so maybe just 1061 00:50:55,319 --> 00:50:57,660 like re-energizing that conversation can 1062 00:50:57,660 --> 00:50:59,640 help refocus people and I think once we 1063 00:50:59,640 --> 00:51:01,020 start drawing attention to it and good 1064 00:51:01,020 --> 00:51:03,180 attention to those who are complying 1065 00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:04,859 um then I think that we're off to a good 1066 00:51:04,859 --> 00:51:06,240 start so I say you know I don't know 1067 00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,040 exactly where you want to start but I 1068 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:11,520 would say you know even if are as we're 1069 00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:13,380 trying to recording City efforts and 1070 00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:15,480 things like that maybe just 1071 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:17,280 you know 1072 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:20,220 uh you know a block at a time or just 1073 00:51:20,220 --> 00:51:21,480 focus on a couple blocks of the time 1074 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:23,700 engaging business owners just saying hey 1075 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:25,619 this is something that they were talking 1076 00:51:25,619 --> 00:51:27,540 about we want our own make sure that you 1077 00:51:27,540 --> 00:51:29,220 guys are paying attention to it we're 1078 00:51:29,220 --> 00:51:30,599 paying attention to it and recognizing 1079 00:51:30,599 --> 00:51:32,460 people who are you know being good 1080 00:51:32,460 --> 00:51:33,720 citizens 1081 00:51:33,720 --> 00:51:35,220 I think we could do that that doesn't 1082 00:51:35,220 --> 00:51:37,040 cost anything 1083 00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:39,720 and also housing developments because we 1084 00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,420 have some neighborhoods have quite a few 1085 00:51:42,420 --> 00:51:43,920 um some and some do better than others 1086 00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,020 in terms of keeping their area clean and 1087 00:51:46,020 --> 00:51:47,640 most of them have maintenance apps that 1088 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:52,250 they can send out to do that 1089 00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:53,760 yes 1090 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:55,020 um thank you 1091 00:51:55,020 --> 00:51:56,160 um so I guess 1092 00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:58,920 um this is good feedback I think one of 1093 00:51:58,920 --> 00:52:01,020 the things that I haven't mentioned this 1094 00:52:01,020 --> 00:52:04,140 to MS detoro MR Paul many but I think 1095 00:52:04,140 --> 00:52:05,940 maybe a good Next Step also might be to 1096 00:52:05,940 --> 00:52:08,940 put some of this into more of a timeline 1097 00:52:08,940 --> 00:52:11,640 um and uh as you say probably set some 1098 00:52:11,640 --> 00:52:13,619 priorities um and maybe add some budget 1099 00:52:13,619 --> 00:52:15,839 figures as well 1100 00:52:15,839 --> 00:52:18,540 to some of this in areas where there 1101 00:52:18,540 --> 00:52:20,940 might be for example some of the 1102 00:52:20,940 --> 00:52:24,059 equipment that is outlined in here as 1103 00:52:24,059 --> 00:52:27,900 possibilities I'm looking at Mr Mr 1104 00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:28,859 O'Hearn 1105 00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:30,180 um you know there obviously would be 1106 00:52:30,180 --> 00:52:31,980 budget implications for some of the 1107 00:52:31,980 --> 00:52:33,540 equipment so 1108 00:52:33,540 --> 00:52:36,240 we'll talk about that as well and come 1109 00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:36,960 back 1110 00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:40,079 okay and if anybody has any further 1111 00:52:40,079 --> 00:52:42,660 comments or suggestions please let us 1112 00:52:42,660 --> 00:52:44,099 know 1113 00:52:44,099 --> 00:52:45,720 so do you want this back on in two weeks 1114 00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:48,480 oh I'm sorry uh yeah I'd say two weeks 1115 00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:49,559 yep 1116 00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,740 I was just gonna suggest that in that 1117 00:52:52,740 --> 00:52:54,540 time span that we're all that we're 1118 00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:57,059 working together as I think this is 1119 00:52:57,059 --> 00:52:59,579 something that we all understand to be a 1120 00:52:59,579 --> 00:53:02,460 high priority that we all have common 1121 00:53:02,460 --> 00:53:04,140 ideas and thoughts around this I think 1122 00:53:04,140 --> 00:53:06,300 this will be a great opportunity for us 1123 00:53:06,300 --> 00:53:08,040 not to um side over the conversations 1124 00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,220 and report it out just kind of like 1125 00:53:10,220 --> 00:53:12,839 and as things are happening but let's 1126 00:53:12,839 --> 00:53:14,579 take advantage of this to kind of throw 1127 00:53:14,579 --> 00:53:16,260 some momentum and work together as a 1128 00:53:16,260 --> 00:53:20,030 full Council to represents 1129 00:53:20,040 --> 00:53:26,290 foreign 1130 00:53:26,300 --> 00:53:30,119 agenda are sale property sales so we 1131 00:53:30,119 --> 00:53:33,200 will be going to Executive session and 1132 00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,280 asking any members of the public to 1133 00:53:35,280 --> 00:53:37,520 leave