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[8:18] meeting to order for Monday October 3rd
[8:21] 2022 our first committee is finance Mr
[8:24] Williams
[8:26] thank you so I'd like the call to order
[8:28] the finance committee there's three
[8:29] items on the agenda tonight first call
[8:32] for public hearing for the 2021
[8:33] Consolidated annual performance and
[8:36] evaluation report on October 11th and
[8:39] that will be spoken by Kristen yeah
[8:46] this is very formal um Dan if you just
[8:50] go up to the corner you see that little
[8:53] yeah there you go
[8:55] um we're going to be talking quickly
[8:57] about the Consolidated annual
[9:00] performance and evaluation report or the
[9:02] Caper this measures our accomplishments
[9:05] on our HUD funding through the Community
[9:07] Development block grant the home funds
[9:09] and the emergency Solutions Grant funds
[9:13] um in addition to this was our cdbg CB
[9:16] funds or the stimulus funds that came
[9:19] through Care Act cares act to fund
[9:21] different things in response to the
[9:22] pandemic
[9:24] um so essentially we had three major
[9:26] goals in our Consolidated plan The
[9:28] Five-Year Plan this was to enhance
[9:30] housing opportunities expand economic
[9:33] and Workforce Development and strengthen
[9:35] local neighborhoods so the first goal in
[9:39] the enhancing housing opportunities
[9:42] within the program Year from July 1st
[9:45] 2021 to June 30th 2022 that's what this
[9:48] report is kind of measuring and it's also good to keep in mind that
[9:52] funding kind of spans over multiple
[9:54] years sometimes depending on the project
[9:56] so it's kind of a pointy time between
[9:58] those dates you know what what projects
[10:01] occurred and what funding did we spend
[10:03] so we did 15 demolitions a week and
[10:07] instructors throughout the city
[10:09] there were 15 owner-occupied rehabs with
[10:12] our partners at their Community
[10:14] neighborhoods
[10:15] we worked with Habitat for Humanity to
[10:18] do a few builds throughout the city
[10:20] which were infill projects one of which
[10:23] was a vacant property that was turned
[10:25] into an owner occupied property it was a
[10:27] rental unit to kind of offset the costs
[10:29] there in Eastern Ave
[10:31] so that was exciting
[10:34] um through the Mount Pleasant Outreach
[10:36] project scap provided 24 households with
[10:40] tenant training responsibilities and
[10:42] legal assistance as a result they
[10:44] secured improvements in their living
[10:46] conditions there were 74 residents that
[10:49] received Services which included the
[10:51] homeless prevention and Rapid rehousing
[10:53] programs
[10:55] um in addition the first time whole
[10:56] homebuyer program for down payment
[10:58] assistance and closing costs was
[11:01] overseen by Better Community
[11:03] neighborhoods as well and the Bethesda
[11:05] house tenant-based rental assistance
[11:07] program served 19 participants and
[11:10] provided 50 000 of rental assistance and
[11:13] this is just another project safe Inc
[11:15] providingly accessible sidewalk to their
[11:18] educational recreation facility
[11:23] um
[11:24] yep and this is just some of the
[11:26] community outreach that's done this was
[11:29] an open house that's safe income did as
[11:31] well
[11:33] um so we had a pause in our construction
[11:36] skills training program during the
[11:38] pandemic but it was restarted so we had
[11:40] 10 new program participants
[11:43] um and there was various workshops and
[11:45] job fairs and skills training
[11:47] um this was in partnership with the
[11:49] literally Arsenal again just trying to
[11:51] connect the trades and the jobs that are
[11:53] available with the people who are
[11:54] learning these skills
[11:56] um so they can can join the workforce in
[11:58] meaningful ways
[12:01] um in addition resources for the city's
[12:04] painting program uh
[12:06] you know paid approximately a mile of
[12:08] roads in our neighborhood revitalization
[12:10] strategy area and in addition as part of
[12:14] the economic development
[12:16] um we worked with the Community Loan
[12:19] Fund to provide small business grants
[12:21] through our cdbg CD funding I think it
[12:24] was over it was close to four hundred
[12:27] thousand dollars in Grants that helped
[12:28] over 60 small businesses
[12:32] um in addition you can keep calm down
[12:35] um through the strengthening local
[12:37] neighborhoods we we have the
[12:39] collaborative tree program in
[12:40] partnership with Community fathers sjta
[12:43] Retreat Schenectady in the city last
[12:46] summer they planted 50 trees as part of
[12:48] this program and this summer they did a
[12:49] hundred so it's been we've seen and
[12:52] scaled up it's involved with youth
[12:54] employment and skills training we're
[12:56] really excited to see the progress that
[12:58] continues to happen now that we have our
[13:00] community forestry plan that was just
[13:02] completed
[13:04] um and then we the Hamilton Hill Art
[13:08] Center completed their Sculpture Park
[13:10] which this is an image from that as many
[13:13] of you may have seen it's been a
[13:15] transformation in the neighborhood of
[13:17] formerly vacant site that now is a
[13:20] Community Asset
[13:21] um that was part of the thriving
[13:22] neighborhoods challenge
[13:24] and then at Orchard Park we had the park
[13:28] improvements that were completed and
[13:29] then in addition this Fitness court that
[13:31] was installed as well to basically
[13:35] benefit City residents of all ages
[13:37] through the different programming that's
[13:38] happening there
[13:40] um and then the the youth Coalition
[13:43] supported a lot of youth programs
[13:46] over the year and in addition the
[13:49] partnership with boys and girls club is
[13:51] instrumental in providing some of the
[13:52] summer programs like here at UCF Packard
[13:54] Bush Hill there's some assignments and
[13:56] then of course the the swimming lessons
[13:59] and programs that happen
[14:01] um throughout the city parks over the
[14:04] summer which is just really impactful to
[14:06] keep kids engaged during that time
[14:10] um and then this is just a snapshot of
[14:13] the design of Jerry Burrell Park which
[14:15] started last year and is out to bid
[14:17] right now so we'll see where the numbers
[14:18] come back and we'll look forward to
[14:20] continuing that investment moving
[14:22] forward
[14:24] um
[14:25] just an image from Community meetings
[14:27] and we do try to there you can see
[14:29] Sylvia out there like we try to get
[14:31] engaged in the events happening and make
[14:33] sure and making sure that we're kind of
[14:35] listening to the needs and responding
[14:37] through our goals and what we're
[14:38] investing in so that's it
[14:41] um
[14:42] one of the main things for tonight is
[14:45] just to announce the 15-day public
[14:47] comment period for the keeper which is
[14:49] posted online it's going to be today
[14:51] October 3rd through Tuesday October 18th
[14:54] and there will be a public hearing
[14:56] scheduled for next Tuesday October 11th
[14:58] at seven o'clock at the general city
[15:01] council meeting
[15:04] thank you any questions or comments from
[15:06] the table
[15:10] cycling all in favor
[15:12] moving to the next item is a reminder of
[15:16] the 2023 budget there's the public
[15:18] hearing on October 11 2022
[15:22] offer any further comments or questions
[15:23] regarding such
[15:25] it's perfect
[15:26] um so Mr bear and I think Mr Baron sent
[15:29] us the dates I just want to know that
[15:30] the public the public know what the
[15:32] dates are that we'll be reading October
[15:34] 13th is our first October 18th October
[15:37] 19th October 20th uh and October 21st if
[15:41] needed so I believe this can be we'll be
[15:44] posted on our website thank you and the
[15:47] last item will be a discussion for noise
[15:49] violation follow-up by Mr County so this
[15:53] is a continuing issue with noise we left
[15:57] it the last time with some of the
[16:00] technology pieces and Mr coluccio is
[16:03] going to do a presentation
[16:05] [Music]
[16:08] it's it's uh
[16:14] it's a another short presentation so uh
[16:19] as you know we've installed a number of
[16:21] uh smart technology pieces in the city
[16:25] the analytic cameras that have a number
[16:29] of features including
[16:32] um integrated microphone so one of the
[16:35] things that came up with was how we
[16:38] could use these microphones to analyze
[16:41] noise and actually pick out where
[16:45] violations are in the city so I asked
[16:48] the company that they were working with
[16:50] in one of the companies you typically
[16:52] did
[16:53] to give us an understanding of this
[16:56] newer device that they that we have
[16:59] installed out there and what the roadmap
[17:02] is for the sound handling so they're
[17:04] providing me a very short
[17:06] slideshow that I'll go through
[17:12] they're going to develop this Sound
[17:14] Processing engine
[17:16] leopard watching the microphones that
[17:20] are located in the hubs on top of the
[17:22] street lights
[17:23] um on board let's see what else they
[17:26] said uh they will be doing uh processing
[17:29] on board they're not going to
[17:31] upload the audio the um
[17:35] the machine that's mounted on top of the
[17:37] street light has the intelligence to
[17:39] analyze the information and determine
[17:41] exactly what it is and then that'll be
[17:45] able to send the information back to it
[17:47] wherever we alignment whether it's
[17:49] dispatch or to the desk sergeant to tell
[17:54] them where an issue may be out in the
[17:57] city so they're all GPS GPS located
[18:00] they're able to do some sort of
[18:03] triangulation which can narrow down the
[18:07] location out of the sound based on
[18:09] multiple different units that are out
[18:11] there and they can also because there
[18:14] are cameras on it as well depending
[18:17] again depending on where the location is
[18:19] take a screenshot of that location to
[18:22] see what's going on in that area
[18:25] they also talked about uh LPR slice of
[18:28] the paint reader potential it does not
[18:31] work with the cameras that they have
[18:33] there now because the cameras are
[18:35] installed so high but um this bullet is
[18:38] about the potential to install a second
[18:41] one attached to this unit and then mount
[18:45] it over on the pole
[18:47] so this is the timeline of uh when you
[18:51] expect that we have this up and running
[18:53] so
[18:54] um
[18:55] to generate an alarm based on the sound
[18:59] increase first quarter of 2023 I'm going
[19:04] to skip over the LPR for now but the
[19:06] classification of sound events uh is
[19:09] second quarter of 2023 so just so you
[19:12] understand what that means if it didn't
[19:15] explain it well in the beginning they're
[19:17] just going to be able to tell you where
[19:19] the increase in the noise level is so if
[19:23] the normal testicles are here and it
[19:25] spikes up to a certain amount then it's
[19:27] going to give us a notification that
[19:29] there's enough tentative and then
[19:32] in bullet number three a quarter two of
[19:35] 2023 they'll be able to classify the
[19:38] sounds meaning they'll know if it's a
[19:40] glass shattering and gunshot if it's a a
[19:43] car backfiring
[19:45] um I don't have a lot of detail on how in depth they're gonna go but
[19:51] that would be the idea that they would
[19:54] be able to look at them individually and
[19:56] determine what they are and send uh you
[19:59] know keep track of them and send a
[20:02] message back to wherever we wanted to go
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[20:05] and uh the last one is location of the
[20:08] sound events they'll be able to
[20:09] geolocate so that
[20:12] um if if the ideas were not going to go
[20:15] uh immediately out there to find out
[20:18] what's going on with these increased
[20:20] noise if we track it on a GPS located
[20:23] map and we can look at the history we
[20:26] can find out if it's something that
[20:28] happens on a regular basis there and uh
[20:30] you know then look for extra controls to
[20:34] go out there and uh
[20:36] try to eliminate those issues
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[20:41] any questions
[20:44] did you have a
[20:47] potentially going to Executive sessions
[20:49] to show you some exact locations of
[20:52] where these devices are if you're
[20:54] interested you can do that
[20:57] thanks coach any questions or comments
[21:00] from the table Miss Brookfield so I
[21:03] wanted you if you talked about the
[21:04] Patrols in in terms of them going out
[21:08] so what are we have recorded and talk to
[21:11] valleys because you know that we um we
[21:13] generally have uh the tier system where
[21:15] there's priority fall and so where would
[21:18] this fall in terms of that yeah so so
[21:20] obviously we're not at that point yet
[21:22] but I mean for me to look at it I
[21:24] believe that uh understanding where
[21:27] these noise events occur and having that
[21:30] data on a map that uh you know for in
[21:32] the neighborhood officers to routinely
[21:35] look at during you know certain time
[21:37] periods that it happens you know that
[21:39] would be the first step in my mind but
[21:41] obviously that would be the council
[21:43] mayor into the police department's
[21:45] determination on how they build these
[21:47] things
[21:47] thank you
[21:49] just
[21:50] we've looked at a couple of these shot
[21:53] spotters one that has
[21:55] more I think General recognition they
[21:59] only focus on gunshot detection this use
[22:03] the term microphones really more
[22:06] appropriate terms acoustical sensor
[22:08] where microphone viewed more is just the
[22:12] range of the human voice
[22:14] these are all sound events so it could
[22:17] be an auto accident could be other
[22:18] alarms uh it's a more sophisticated
[22:22] analysis and they're looking to develop
[22:25] that as part of their deployment Here in
[22:27] Schenectady
[22:28] with the other things that we're doing
[22:30] so how do you manage these
[22:33] events uh maybe create a level of
[22:36] deterrence and then appropriately use
[22:38] you know Public Safety resources to
[22:42] find
[22:43] problem areas or
[22:46] people who choose to do things that are
[22:49] less than desirable to their neighbors
[22:52] so I was also asked to see if I could
[22:55] find out what pricing would be if we do
[22:57] not have that at this point but what
[23:00] they did tell us obviously is we already
[23:02] have the
[23:05] microphone's analytic sensors built into
[23:08] the unit so it's strictly firmware
[23:10] updates that it has to be made to the
[23:14] unit and then you're probably a software
[23:16] as a service charge for uh them to
[23:19] analyze that the sounds and then provide
[23:23] the feedback to us
[23:25] Mr Farley so my question is kind of more
[23:28] along the lines of us are
[23:30] you know obligation to kind of balance
[23:32] Public Safety balance the tension
[23:34] between Public Safety and um privacy as
[23:37] well right so when I hear you know
[23:39] something like that like so I guess like
[23:41] are these microphones are they able to
[23:43] pick up like a consonants conversation
[23:45] that they were having that's the first
[23:47] thing I said that they do not record
[23:49] that audio what they're doing is they're
[23:51] taking that right up in that street
[23:53] light head and analyzing that
[23:55] information and just and just sending
[23:57] the text of what that is back to a
[24:00] dashboard and or email over to uh you
[24:04] know whoever we deemed
[24:06] um to obtain that so you know we are not
[24:08] collecting that audio information right
[24:11] because as I understood you were saying
[24:13] like there's this this kind of just a
[24:15] graduating thing so there's at this
[24:18] level at first you know it's just going
[24:20] to be sound detection and things like
[24:21] that so I was just my question was more
[24:23] along the lines of you know as we go to move to different
[24:28] parts of it as it starts to they're
[24:30] developing this
[24:31] um
[24:32] recording the recording someone's
[24:34] conversation but being able to hear
[24:36] somebody's conversation two different
[24:37] things so I guess I'm wondering
[24:39] um do does the technology as it stands
[24:41] right now have the ability to
[24:44] listen on to someone's conversation I
[24:47] would imagine that they would have the
[24:50] ability to build something that does
[24:52] that but it is not available to us nor
[24:54] has ever been discussed because they're
[24:56] accomplishing out of a you know personal
[24:59] uh information as well so they they want
[25:02] to be able to use this throughout the
[25:04] country and
[25:06] um obviously don't want to get into any
[25:08] kind of a personal data but it does
[25:12] takes the normal background noise who
[25:13] have normal traffic there's one level
[25:15] and it looks for events for things spike
[25:19] out of it and then taking that sound and
[25:24] developing a unique signature from it so
[25:26] that you know what it is it's an auto
[25:28] accident is it a gunshot could it be
[25:31] thunder like what's happening or car
[25:34] back
[25:35] was that kind of audio that that would
[25:38] be so much data you know if you try to
[25:40] be able to try to transfer that from
[25:42] these units so it's definitely
[25:45] I'm aware
[25:48] any other questions so to uh Mr
[25:52] coluccio's point with the classification
[25:54] of sound events there's a fairly
[25:56] substantial
[25:58] um
[25:59] application going on right now to
[26:02] identify these and get them into the AI
[26:04] environment in order to make those
[26:06] classifications so that's coming pretty
[26:08] rapidly if if it's not already here and
[26:11] could you just speak briefly about the
[26:14] lower technology and how they might be
[26:16] able to integrate those with what we
[26:19] have that's obviously much more
[26:21] sophisticated sure well I mean Aurora
[26:24] technology is for those of you that
[26:27] don't know it's a communication standard
[26:29] you're able to put a couple of three
[26:33] four gateways through the entire city
[26:35] and then connect different types of
[26:38] devices
[26:40] that you're looking to try to get
[26:42] feedback from so those different devices
[26:44] if there's just so many of them out
[26:47] there they could be border sensors
[26:50] temperature sensors smoke detectors uh
[26:53] there's a uh flood sensors you're going
[26:56] to look at it to measure the height of
[26:59] the the river and you know exactly you
[27:02] know hour by hour what the level is
[27:05] there's just so many things out there
[27:06] that you uh connect and again the
[27:09] advantage is it's very low power so you
[27:11] can use batteries that they can be
[27:13] Standalone battery units that
[27:17] lasts for a very long time as well
[27:28] any other questions or comments so while
[27:31] this certainly isn't the uh end-all
[27:34] be-all solution to the noise issue that
[27:36] we have it is the beginning
[27:39] um
[27:39] it's one of the biggest complaints I
[27:41] think we all receive and uh it is a
[27:44] starting point to try to at least
[27:48] alleviate some of the issues that we
[27:50] hear in the name it's a tool a tool a
[27:55] tool just like you would be using um to
[27:57] determine where police Falls are
[28:00] throughout the neighborhood or the
[28:02] higher call to understand if there's
[28:04] something you know going on in
[28:06] particular area so if you have this
[28:07] information and um you know it gives us
[28:11] the ability to enforce it better and
[28:13] improve the quality of life for our
[28:15] residents
[28:18] oh thank you Mr Kutcher for the local
[28:20] assistance so my guess is uh Miss mainly
[28:24] for Andrew Luck so well why do we need
[28:26] to go into executive session to to talk
[28:29] about where the where they're placed at
[28:31] that's just my question why would we
[28:32] have to do that
[28:34] well
[28:35] there is
[28:36] five minutes
[28:38] obviously the location of cameras
[28:42] um is you know you can obviously see
[28:45] them but in terms of direction of the
[28:46] cameras there's certainly Public Safety
[28:48] considerations that need to be taken
[28:51] into consideration
[28:53] um when reviewing the cameras to see
[28:55] what type of cameras they are and their
[28:57] placement on the particular polls
[29:02] um because they are used obviously for
[29:04] law enforcement investigations and so
[29:06] forth
[29:10] so thank you Mr cliche for the brief
[29:12] definitely one of my questions I don't
[29:14] know if councilman follow me is able to
[29:15] answer definitely as we hear more about
[29:18] expansive and immersive technology like
[29:20] becoming more technologically advanced
[29:22] action net service line hopefully on my
[29:26] own it's premature it's going to be
[29:27] coming to our Police Department so it's
[29:29] trying to understand is this tool of
[29:31] resource able to be integrative into
[29:33] that or is it to some lesser degree
[29:36] maybe duplicated so I don't know if
[29:39] that's been open to but just definitely
[29:41] since we're looking at potentially
[29:42] spending more dollars I would want to
[29:44] make sure that we're maximizing range
[29:47] I mean you know I don't believe this
[29:49] either to be honest with you because I
[29:52] think it's a supplemental device that uh
[29:55] you know again is not something that we
[29:57] currently are using we don't have the
[29:59] ability to provide that kind of
[30:01] information
[30:02] um
[30:02] certainly the ability to use it for
[30:06] gunshot detection would be huge for us I
[30:09] don't have the numbers and I certainly
[30:11] don't want to speak for the police
[30:12] department but I believe uh 50 UH 60 70
[30:16] percent of gunshots vote undetected
[30:19] uh that's because people think other
[30:22] people report them they don't know their
[30:24] gunshots there's a lot out there
[30:26] historically from what I've read from
[30:29] different cities that uh
[30:31] have the reports and unreported gunshots
[30:36] good point uh Miss Colleen Did you have
[30:39] any intent with this discussion right
[30:40] now
[30:41] not at this point I think it's something
[30:43] we'll keep addressing maybe once a month
[30:47] or so because it is such a big issue and
[30:50] uh you know routinely get comments and
[30:54] complaints about noise so we'll keep
[30:57] this on the agenda I mean quarter one at
[30:59] 23 is not that far away you know it'll
[31:01] be here before you know it so I'll be
[31:03] more than happy to keep an eye on it
[31:06] follow it up and come and talk to you
[31:08] again with the set so we can keep going
[31:12] that's up to you I mean if you're
[31:14] interested fine we can do it another
[31:15] time everyone
[31:19] thank you
[31:20] because we've recessity so I say recess
[31:23] to exact position
[31:25] oh emotional recess second all in favor
[31:42] [Music]
[31:50] foreign
[31:52] [Music]
[32:06] government operations and we have one
[32:09] agenda item and it has around implicit
[32:12] virus training
[32:14] [Music]
[32:15] um
[32:16] yes so um well we almost happened lately
[32:21] we also know that back in the well maybe
[32:24] you don't remember but we did have the
[32:26] discussion around this very similar
[32:28] thing in March and unfortunately we're
[32:32] here again so clearly there's a need for
[32:34] it and so
[32:37] um I was you know after our last
[32:38] discussion which we kind of had some of
[32:40] that discussion at this table
[32:43] it obviously has not resolved things to
[32:46] the point that they need to be resolved
[32:47] so weak so that we as a council can move
[32:49] along effectively and make sure that
[32:51] things are getting done without all this
[32:52] being let's just following is the
[32:54] inviting that's clearly been out there
[32:56] in the public and all of that
[32:58] um so even though some things are
[32:59] getting done they are not getting done
[33:02] probably as smoothly as they could so
[33:06] we're back here again and um I as I said
[33:09] in March we should have we should
[33:11] consider implicit bias training now I'm
[33:13] highly recommending that we do that and
[33:15] that we find a an organization that
[33:18] first of all that is not none of us are
[33:20] really connected to I know that we've
[33:21] had some local groups doing it in
[33:23] Niskayuna but those are all people that
[33:26] we know are connected on one level or
[33:27] another so to find an organization that
[33:30] will come in and to do this training I'm
[33:33] recommending that and I would like
[33:34] feedback from the Council on that I will
[33:36] be talking to HR in terms of training
[33:39] dollars because it's not going to be
[33:41] free but it is I believe necessary and
[33:44] so I'm opening that up for discussion
[33:46] and how if others have thoughts on that
[33:49] or or suggestions or just want to
[33:52] discuss it in general
[33:57] yeah I think that you know it's
[34:00] definitely something I need to do I
[34:03] think that you know we are saying words
[34:06] and often you know
[34:07] if you say something and not have the
[34:10] same understanding of the term that
[34:11] we're using so I think that you know we
[34:13] need to have some shared understanding
[34:15] of words and Concepts and how they apply
[34:17] and I think that
[34:18] none of us is above uh perpetuating on a
[34:23] certain ideology or outcome whether
[34:27] that's conscious or unconsciously so I
[34:29] think that it's really important you
[34:31] know and I think the content Point
[34:32] around like in fighting I think that
[34:35] we all are adults and we all have you
[34:38] know even in our different jobs and
[34:40] things like that we've had problems I'm
[34:42] sure with people at our job I'm sure the
[34:45] public can relate to that but I think
[34:46] that you still go to work and you still
[34:48] do your job right and I think that this
[34:50] just would just put us in a position to
[34:52] do our job more effectively and looking
[34:55] through the appropriate lens as we make
[34:57] very vital decisions that impact the
[34:59] material conditions of people that live
[35:00] here I'm poor
[35:09] um so I would be in support of it as
[35:12] well I think that you know we were in
[35:14] support of it back in March as well so
[35:16] um I do think that um work for us as
[35:19] Leaders to be able to explore
[35:22] um you know whether it's about different
[35:25] religions whether it's about different
[35:26] economic backgrounds which comes up a
[35:29] lot
[35:30] um genders Etc I think that it would be helpful for us I think it
[35:34] would be helpful for all the leaders
[35:36] within the city
[35:37] um so it might be worthwhile for HR to
[35:41] actually be asked if they would put
[35:43] together some implicit bias training
[35:46] that many people in the city
[35:49] departments as well as city council
[35:51] would take part in so I would be
[35:54] supportive of it
[36:00] Council and not include the larger
[36:03] audience that you suggested because
[36:05] we're dealing with what's going on right
[36:06] now with the council I'm not saying
[36:08] that's not a good idea I have however I
[36:09] think it needs to be separate and apart
[36:11] from what we do here as a council and we
[36:14] make sure that we focus that we knit
[36:16] together this relationship and and do
[36:18] what we need to do as a council so if
[36:20] they want to do it outside and we for
[36:22] the staff in terms of the staff we don't
[36:24] we can't speak to that that has to be
[36:25] something that the mayor says yes it can
[36:27] or cannot happen
[36:28] so um so for me it's really about us
[36:31] making sure that as a council because
[36:33] that's right now with the what the
[36:35] situation is it needs to be addressed
[36:40] um so again I would be um in support of
[36:43] any program
[36:44] um that helps unify the council
[36:46] um I was in favor of it and we all spoke
[36:48] about it and we're waiting for it to
[36:50] happen prior to all this I know a lot of
[36:53] things going on so I would definitely be
[36:55] in support of of any type of training be
[36:58] very useful to all of us
[37:02] any further discussion
[37:04] so at this point in time I will look at
[37:07] look out you know reach out and look at
[37:09] look for firms that do it that are kind
[37:10] of local so that and and how we can pay
[37:12] for it and all that so I invite all of
[37:14] anybody else who wants to do that and to
[37:16] forward that information should bring
[37:18] that forward and then move that um as as
[37:21] quickly as possible sister my name is so
[37:25] suggestion that the human resources
[37:27] department don't do it we might be able
[37:29] to have the city insurance company pay
[37:32] for all this training as they do with
[37:34] some of the other trainings so that
[37:36] might be something that would be
[37:39] beneficial and then that could also then
[37:41] hopefully be extended to every single
[37:43] City employee
[37:45] so I think I I think that's a good
[37:48] suggestion and also
[37:50] as far as R we have a very unique um
[37:52] responsibility the decisions that we
[37:55] make so and you know
[37:57] make sure that we have a
[38:00] um a training that is responsive to our
[38:02] need and it really kind of removes some
[38:06] of the layers and helps us understand
[38:07] how our own life experiences and
[38:10] ideologies show up in the decision we
[38:13] make um and I think that that's a
[38:15] different training or different
[38:17] professional development than kind of
[38:19] the larger
[38:20] um
[38:21] uh that larger audience but they
[38:23] definitely work together and they
[38:25] definitely can you know kind of um can
[38:28] build off each other but I think that we
[38:29] have a really
[38:31] um
[38:32] we have to be intentional about making
[38:34] sure that we are
[38:36] getting some information that helps us
[38:38] better make the decisions that we're
[38:40] making and so I want to you know make
[38:43] sure that we we don't conflate those two
[38:44] things because kind of to your point but
[38:46] so I don't think it's either or it's a
[38:48] yes and I think we're all on the same
[38:49] page which is a good thing on honest so
[38:52] Mr Williams just for records since
[38:54] everyone else spoke because it was
[38:55] appropriate for me to add my two cents I
[38:57] think whenever you discuss a training I
[38:59] think the positive is it provides you
[39:01] the opportunity to pause and then
[39:03] reflect and then provide you the tools
[39:05] and resources to be able to
[39:07] strategically address some issues moving
[39:09] forward so I definitely would not be
[39:11] opposed to that and I definitely look
[39:13] forward to hearing more discussions
[39:14] about this and I appreciate um support
[39:17] field putting this on agenda
[39:19] [Music]
[39:21] again it's time for the discussion so um
[39:24] in two weeks I'll bring it back with the
[39:26] information that we talked about again
[39:27] if anyone has a suggestions please email
[39:29] them to me okay and I will speak with HR
[39:32] regarding um possible opportunity to
[39:34] class to cover the cost okay thank you
[39:38] okay
[39:41] with that I will uh
[39:49] thank you
[39:52] call the order stage development
[39:53] planning we have six items on the agenda
[39:56] uh the first item is the ceremonial
[39:58] resolution for Italian American Heritage
[40:00] and culture month Mr palomini we do this
[40:03] every year
[40:04] um
[40:05] this would just be the same thing we
[40:07] usually do but it will be presented at
[40:09] the sons of Italy celebration I believe
[40:12] it's October 15th
[40:15] oh it's better
[40:20] second all those in favor aye
[40:23] okay next item on the agenda is a
[40:25] ceremony resolution Rotary International
[40:28] World polio day yes this is Patrick
[40:30] thank you on October 24th which is a
[40:33] date that we meet uh is actually World
[40:36] polio day Rotary International has been
[40:38] for years
[40:40] um invested in on trying to eradicate
[40:43] polio from our world we came very very
[40:46] close to doing so and for some reason
[40:48] it's popping back up again probably with
[40:50] in relation to the vaccination piece
[40:53] um that's why it's happening our
[40:55] Schenectady rotary clubs in general all
[40:58] do work raise money have programs
[41:00] educational programs Etc
[41:03] so I'd like to ask that we have a
[41:07] resolution that we would present on
[41:09] October 24th to members of the sky the
[41:11] president and the polio chair of the
[41:14] Schenectady Rotary Club
[41:16] any discussion
[41:19] so moved second always
[41:24] I'm three it starts with me anti-linear
[41:26] action plan
[41:28] um Mr Toro Ms Patrick Mr Palmyra
[41:32] I can start
[41:34] um so a couple of weeks ago we we gave
[41:37] you all the um the it starts with me
[41:40] anti-litter action plan and we were
[41:43] basically just looking for some feedback
[41:44] and your thoughts on some of the ideas
[41:47] and suggestions
[41:48] um we'd like to move forward with some
[41:50] of these so that's another piece that we
[41:52] look for your
[41:54] ideas on you know some of this to pull
[41:56] out but you know sort of from Big
[41:58] Picture general what did you think uh
[42:00] down to what are some of the things that
[42:02] we could start with
[42:04] um so I leave it open to discussion if
[42:07] you haven't started starting point that
[42:09] you were thinking about
[42:12] um I think that in terms of some of the
[42:14] lower hanging fruit one one of the
[42:16] things um that I think would be
[42:18] um not easy but one of the lower hanging
[42:22] fruit I guess I should say would be the
[42:24] idea of talking to businesses in the
[42:26] city and perhaps requiring that business
[42:29] small businesses in the city have their
[42:31] trash cans put out in front of them
[42:34] um so they would be required I mean that
[42:36] would be something we really would need
[42:37] to talk about as a council to require
[42:40] businesses to have trash receptive
[42:42] receptacles and to be responsible for
[42:45] making sure that the front of their area
[42:48] of their business is kept clean I think
[42:51] we all probably see that at different
[42:53] sites around around the city that
[42:55] sometimes it's just you know a ton of
[42:57] trash out in front of some of our small
[42:59] businesses so that was one of the areas
[43:00] that I was thinking about
[43:02] and I don't know if you want to add
[43:05] anything here um I thought we would pull
[43:07] from that at first seeing that
[43:09] the trash cans and also
[43:12] um just designating perhaps an employee
[43:14] during some off time after a few
[43:17] McDonald's back in high school and
[43:18] things and Stewart shops especially have
[43:21] someone out there all the time picking
[43:22] up the trash and then presenting them
[43:24] with a certificate maybe once a month or
[43:27] something
[43:27] quite a few I'm sure we all drive around
[43:30] the city and there's
[43:33] multiple times a day
[43:36] um
[43:36] a lot of businesses just don't seem to
[43:39] care and kind of chain businesses too
[43:41] and what's it take just to go out and
[43:43] pick up a few pieces of trash
[43:45] and put it in a plastic bag receptacles
[43:48] aren't expensive and um you know
[43:51] appropriate receptacles I know um
[43:55] I know Metroplex does fund sometimes a
[43:58] few of them they just did a whole bunch
[44:00] on Crane Street again those are all
[44:01] things we're looking into but just in
[44:03] the meanwhile just you know stopping in
[44:05] businesses getting a list asking them
[44:07] just to pick up on a daily basis and you
[44:10] know at the end of the month we you know
[44:11] go we present a certificate you know
[44:13] thanks for keeping the neighborhood
[44:15] clean so that's where I thought we were
[44:16] we could pull from which wouldn't be
[44:18] much money at all at first so
[44:20] yeah I think the garbage cans is
[44:23] something that is a good starting point
[44:25] for discussion
[44:27] um requiring that these businesses have
[44:30] them but also maintain them because we
[44:33] all know businesses that have them and
[44:34] there's garbage everywhere because
[44:37] they're not emptying them so that's a
[44:39] big problem and perhaps an easy starting
[44:42] point where we can all get on board is
[44:45] the certificates of a business saying
[44:48] yeah I'm agreeing to these whatever
[44:50] principles and they have the certificate
[44:54] that they can present and display that
[44:58] they're part of this and that that might
[45:01] be an easy starting point and then the
[45:03] discussion of the garbage cans have
[45:05] obviously take perhaps a little bit more
[45:07] but I would imagine most of us could
[45:11] you know with some tweaking get on board
[45:13] with things like that
[45:17] Mr Williams so I don't know if I'd go as
[45:20] far as to say this business is not
[45:21] caring and they're working at Ortho New
[45:23] York and downtown Schenectady sometimes
[45:25] the wind will just blow trash so I think
[45:27] some of it is just displaced
[45:28] accountability where some people may be
[45:30] expecting the city to clean it up
[45:31] however the city is functioning with the
[45:34] business owners need to take it and
[45:35] address that themselves I think having
[45:37] business owners identify that yes this
[45:40] will be a aspect of your storefront that
[45:43] you will maintain is appropriate so I
[45:46] definitely think that this would be a
[45:48] good start definitely with having trust
[45:50] receptacles present I think the only
[45:51] thing that I want to make sure is that
[45:53] there was a an outline for removing said
[45:56] trash or if it is not picked up in a
[45:58] timely manner who would ultimately have
[46:00] to maintain it just because we could
[46:01] ultimately make the situation worse by
[46:04] piling up the trash only to tip over and
[46:06] blow down the street which I would not
[46:08] want to happen
[46:10] so in terms of the the signal the
[46:13] signage that you're talking about you're
[46:15] talking about something coming up from
[46:16] the mayor's office that says from the
[46:18] central city of Schenectady so it's
[46:19] through the mayor's office
[46:21] it doesn't really matter but there's
[46:24] examples and uh in the packet
[46:28] um just something a business saying you
[46:30] know what these are the principles we
[46:32] agreed to and uh we want to keep our
[46:36] establishment clean and we're displaying
[46:39] this as you know we're on board that's
[46:42] and it sends a message to the patronage
[46:46] that yeah this business is going to keep
[46:49] try to keep it clean and we should do
[46:51] our part hopefully and put it in the
[46:53] garbage can
[46:54] so as I mentioned before if you talk to
[46:56] Mr Pond and I'm not sure if you did at
[46:58] this point because there's been some
[46:59] ongoing discussion uh regarding trash
[47:03] and how much of it and all that and part
[47:05] of that discussion was around the
[47:06] businesses that's why I was wondering if
[47:08] you and I actually haven't I haven't
[47:09] spoken to him yet so I know that he um
[47:13] this the mayor
[47:15] um and myself and um
[47:17] Mr O'Hearn have met and that was that
[47:19] was part of the discussion so that's why
[47:21] I wanted to make sure that if there's an
[47:23] overlap there that we are all talking
[47:25] the same language and moving in the same
[47:27] direction yeah we would have to make
[47:28] sure of that so yeah um I will make
[47:30] myself a note and and do that
[47:35] I don't know that if he has seen this
[47:38] proposal I haven't given it to him oh I
[47:41] don't know okay Carl do you have Mr
[47:44] Williams do you have one I wasn't sure
[47:46] because you weren't here at the last
[47:47] okay I brought an extra copy in case
[47:52] would you any other but oh sorry
[47:55] but I think it's one thing we all can
[47:57] agree on is that something needs to be
[47:59] done I mean to keep the trash out the streets
[48:02] and as far as receptacles I mean every
[48:05] city trash can again Mr Williams good
[48:08] point uh the one in front of front of my
[48:10] business
[48:11] um is empty by the city so again on
[48:15] who's supplying the receptacles would
[48:17] depend on who would need to empty them
[48:19] so I would think well
[48:22] get a beat on that as well yeah but it's
[48:25] something that really needs to start I
[48:27] can speak to that when we put them out
[48:28] in our in our community
[48:30] um they were the city workers had to do
[48:32] it yes so which is why as I said before
[48:34] I went to meet with them and talk to
[48:36] them you're going to have 28 more trash
[48:37] cans now to empty so if we're talking
[48:40] about the businesses and asking the
[48:42] business which I think is makes sense
[48:43] asking them to be responsible they have
[48:45] to put out trash anyway right so just
[48:47] you know emptying that it would just be
[48:49] one other bag and I know that um well
[48:53] there's a particular business that I
[48:54] heard from the other days they don't
[48:55] want trash in front of their business
[48:56] and he's like can you move the trash can
[48:58] because it wasn't being empty so uh so
[49:02] businesses are clearly concerned about
[49:04] that um so yes but we just have to make
[49:06] sure who's going to be responsible so
[49:08] and I also know that
[49:11] the Sweet Streets we proceed to think
[49:13] that the trash that's in the street gets
[49:16] all done by the collectible street
[49:17] sweeper but it doesn't necessarily
[49:19] because
[49:20] probably the next day there's more there
[49:21] right right after they've already gone
[49:23] through so we definitely need to you
[49:25] know I'm not sure exactly what your list
[49:27] of priorities and how you want to
[49:28] prioritize and where you want to start
[49:29] but definitely I 100 agree it's
[49:33] something we've been battling for a long
[49:34] time that we need to continue to move
[49:36] forward Mr Farley yeah so what I what I
[49:39] like about what you guys presented on at
[49:42] our last meeting was that this is a
[49:43] multi-pronged approach here and I think
[49:46] that we don't want to live you know
[49:49] the great be the enemy of the good or
[49:51] very personally we just want to say like
[49:52] so you know
[49:54] it is a good opportunity for the city to
[49:56] collaborate with business owners and I
[49:59] would say
[50:00] I would think most reasonable business
[50:02] owners you know if they recognize that
[50:06] we are paying attention and we're saying
[50:09] hey you know this is expectation for you
[50:10] to do business in the city and if you're
[50:13] doing business responsibility and you're
[50:17] upholding these values then a way to
[50:20] celebrate people I think to incentivize
[50:22] behavior is always a good thing
[50:24] um so
[50:26] you know we do have to be mindful about
[50:28] you know small businesses and you know
[50:30] one thing about our small business you
[50:32] never have enough money you never have
[50:33] enough time so we want to make sure that
[50:36] we're our expectations are in line with
[50:38] them and we're looking ways to support
[50:39] them through that but I think that it
[50:42] doesn't have to be you know it can it
[50:45] you know we can start with just you know
[50:48] conversations with business owners like
[50:49] hey this is the effort that we're trying
[50:51] to do and I think this isn't something
[50:53] that's necessarily new so maybe just
[50:55] like re-energizing that conversation can
[50:57] help refocus people and I think once we
[50:59] start drawing attention to it and good
[51:01] attention to those who are complying
[51:03] um then I think that we're off to a good
[51:04] start so I say you know I don't know
[51:06] exactly where you want to start but I
[51:08] would say you know even if are as we're
[51:11] trying to recording City efforts and
[51:13] things like that maybe just
[51:15] you know
[51:17] uh you know a block at a time or just
[51:20] focus on a couple blocks of the time
[51:21] engaging business owners just saying hey
[51:23] this is something that they were talking
[51:25] about we want our own make sure that you
[51:27] guys are paying attention to it we're
[51:29] paying attention to it and recognizing
[51:30] people who are you know being good
[51:32] citizens
[51:33] I think we could do that that doesn't
[51:35] cost anything
[51:37] and also housing developments because we
[51:39] have some neighborhoods have quite a few
[51:42] um some and some do better than others
[51:43] in terms of keeping their area clean and
[51:46] most of them have maintenance apps that
[51:47] they can send out to do that
[51:52] yes
[51:53] um thank you
[51:55] um so I guess
[51:56] um this is good feedback I think one of
[51:58] the things that I haven't mentioned this
[52:01] to MS detoro MR Paul many but I think
[52:04] maybe a good Next Step also might be to
[52:05] put some of this into more of a timeline
[52:08] um and uh as you say probably set some
[52:11] priorities um and maybe add some budget
[52:13] figures as well
[52:15] to some of this in areas where there
[52:18] might be for example some of the
[52:20] equipment that is outlined in here as
[52:24] possibilities I'm looking at Mr Mr
[52:27] O'Hearn
[52:28] um you know there obviously would be
[52:30] budget implications for some of the
[52:31] equipment so
[52:33] we'll talk about that as well and come
[52:36] back
[52:36] okay and if anybody has any further
[52:40] comments or suggestions please let us
[52:42] know
[52:44] so do you want this back on in two weeks
[52:45] oh I'm sorry uh yeah I'd say two weeks
[52:48] yep
[52:49] I was just gonna suggest that in that
[52:52] time span that we're all that we're
[52:54] working together as I think this is
[52:57] something that we all understand to be a
[52:59] high priority that we all have common
[53:02] ideas and thoughts around this I think
[53:04] this will be a great opportunity for us
[53:06] not to um side over the conversations
[53:08] and report it out just kind of like
[53:10] and as things are happening but let's
[53:12] take advantage of this to kind of throw
[53:14] some momentum and work together as a
[53:16] full Council to represents
[53:20] foreign
[53:26] agenda are sale property sales so we
[53:30] will be going to Executive session and
[53:33] asking any members of the public to
[53:35] leave