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Carmel is there

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on a normal day.

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Everyday is getting better.

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Did you send me

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over a little bit of your space?

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You're already here.

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No,

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you didn't get it.

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Hey,

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10:27.

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Mr. Farley will have a flat he'll be

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here.

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Oops.

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Oh boy.

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Or just in general

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question.

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These

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are all

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right here.

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but they were

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Good. Good evening everyone. I would

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like to call the city finance committee

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to order and we are discussing the 2023

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uh budget this evening and this evening

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we'll be touching on revenue the city

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council the clerks the mayors the law

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department judgment claims police fire

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department

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to go first

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whatever the chair person

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yes if you don't mind um before you

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start there were some questions. So, I'm going to pass around

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um the answer to some of these

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questions,

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please.

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This one here is the unfilled position.

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This is question from Miss Toro.

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Good answer. And these are question from

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Miss Patrick. Good answer.

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Unfortunately, we don't have the answers

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to Miss um questions.

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I don't know why you missed that. the

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question. Uh,

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thank you.

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We have that. So, we'll try to get that

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in as early as possible to

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I'll ask them and then

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copy that.

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that's Dean's I think. Um,

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we also have a question that was asked

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from the clerk's department for revenue.

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this is in our package.

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thank you.

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job description was asked, but we only

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have two copies.

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So, I will make the job description.

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Just the top sheet for the mayor.

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Yeah, just the innovative thing.

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Yeah, I got them both. The one for both.

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copies. Okay, that's fine. Or you want

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me to make copies of

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All right. I just want to do a quick uh

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overview of the water permit. Uh um

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compared to 2022, the request is only

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more. Uh it's only a 1.15%

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increase from the prior prior year.

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Andrew, anything you would have to add

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in terms of the overall numbers? Uh no

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department as a whole.

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Sure. Um certainly touch on that. I know

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there was some pointed questions. Um we

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have not filled the deputy corporation

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council position. Um it has been vacant

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this year. Um obviously we're looking to

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uh fill that position. Uh one of the

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questions um point of questions related

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to the increase in that um salary. Um we

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did fill an assistant corporate. I will

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speak generally. It's been difficult to

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find um attorneys

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um to to come work for the department.

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council a couple weeks ago. Um, there's

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a question about the the pdium salary at

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the bottom of the budget. Um, we're

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using and we have a an assistant

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corporation council who's part-time who

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works approximately 15 hours or so per

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week. Um, part of that was related to um

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his pension and retirement um because he

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previously worked at the DA's office. Uh

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I anticipate he will continue working

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for the city in 2023 on a part-time

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basis. Um so obviously we're looking to

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fill uh the open positions

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um the deputy corporation council

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position and now we have a vacant

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assistant corporation council position.

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Um, as you all know, um, the work in the

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law department doesn't slow down. Um,

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you know, we are in court practically

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every day during the week. Um, you know,

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we're working with the various

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departments. Um, you know, obviously,

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you know, working with legislation for

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the council and for the mayor's office.

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negotiating contracts so things don't,

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as I said, things just don't slow down.

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positions and part of that uh increase

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for the deputy corporation council

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position is to um be competitive uh and

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fill the position because it's been

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vacant as I said for a year.

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Any questions on this section? Go ahead.

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So with the um vacancy of the recent

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assistant corporation council, are you

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anticipating any changes to the overtime

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or how does that how would that affect?

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know if we did you know back when I was

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an assistant corporation counsel um you

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know and working you know certain weeks

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60 hours I would have logged over time

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um but you know we put in the time that

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we have to put in and get things done.

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Tuition reimbursement. I see that you

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have that there.

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So that would be um attorneys have

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requirements related to continuing legal

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education. Uh we have to do 24 hours. Um

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experienced attorneys need to do 24

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hours every two years. Uh 12 and 12 per

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not too long ago. Actually I didn't put

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in for reimbursement. uh is there so

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that attorneys can you know get the and

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it has to be relevant to our practice

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you know it can't be you know not for

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profofit CL and it would have to be

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something relevant to the type of work

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we do uh but is therefore reimbursing

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those continuing legal education credits

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did you um did you expand any money from

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last year's

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um I don't believe we did we may not

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not 2022 but we've had in 2020 And

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that's why we created the line in 2022

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because uh in 2021 we put it through

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like administer

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expense. We wanted to show what it was

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Any other questions? Go ahead.

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Um so line a 142100 assistant

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corporation council for ARPA. Uh, how do

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you anticipate paying for this position

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in the future when there's no longer

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harmed funds?

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looking at this, it says $91,800.

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I believe that this position is

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currently filled. It might be by um Mr.

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Marty,

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by Chris Martney. Um, you know,

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we have an open position right now. Um

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in the past obviously the council's

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aware that you know we had I think at

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one point maybe six attorneys working in

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the office and you know it's as it

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stands right now um the budget includes

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five positions um you know it's

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something that would have to be

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addressed in the future certainly um you

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know I don't know if we can really

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whittle away the number of positions

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that we have based on the need um you

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know that's something that would have be

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explored I think in the future right for

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you know 2024.

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Um it's something that I'll talk to

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obviously Anthony about and the mayor to

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figure out how to you know make it work.

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I have two other questions. Um so um the

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predeem salary line what is that used

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for?

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Predium salary goes to an assistant

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corporation council who's parttime. He's

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paid hourly. um doesn't have any

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benefits. Um he's retired from the DA's

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office. He works, as I said, about 15

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hours per week.

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I'm sorry.

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Does a good job, too?

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Yes, he does.

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And so, would you cover right now?

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That that would be

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I can ask that question.

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No, when we when we go to that section.

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Those are my questions. Apart from

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attorney, you have like the record

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access officer, code enforcement

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specialist, confidential sex, IP

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history. Do you have anybody else

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working um within this department here

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that is utilizing your budget?

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Do you have anybody from OS

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that is under your budget?

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Should be in OS?

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I don't know who should be where. That's

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not my call to make. Um we have

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obviously the assistant corporation

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council positions, the deputy corp

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council position. my position. The

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record access officer is essentially

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like the foil officer. Um it deals with

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you know subpoenas that come over to get

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records out. The code enforcement

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specialist is um you know somebody who

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oversees not just and there's some

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overlap obviously in terms of what the

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folks do because really a lot of times

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it's all hands on deck. That person's

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obviously working to get our code cases

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prepared for for court and the IPS

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position is in my office. uh the

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confidential secretary again is in my

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office. Um so in terms of any you know

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those positions are all you know reside

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within my office

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and you you also have Charlie stepping

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into your budget.

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Um there is an assistant. Yes, there's

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that's Charlie um is an assistant

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corporation council

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and does he does the work as an

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assistant corporation council within

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your department.

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I can't well I can't speak for the work

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that he does. Um I'm not aware.

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Well, I took it and hired him. He's an

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attorney and has broader scope

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of projects.

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Should I go to another department on

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another department budget as a special

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assistant project assistant something

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just rather than the budget there should

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be

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well was using some of the money was in

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this budget

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are you asking to reduce the corporation

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council budget office so where people

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get assigned is one thing it's what the

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budget numbers are something else

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but the job description and what the

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type of work they're doing

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you know that whole thing would be a

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separate presentation in terms of what

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we're doing. There's been some

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discussion on the modifying the garbage

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fees. I put forth proposal

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uh which is more generic. Also had

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meetings of the council president, other

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staff members looking at some of the

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problem.

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Uh the staff refers to it as jackpots

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where people will literally put half a

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ton, a ton, two tons of material out.

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And it's how do we modify our fee

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structure or collection process to

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allocate costs to those problem

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properties or

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situations as opposed to the general fee

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structure that we have in place for what

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I call just the normal uh recyclables in

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the garbage that people put out. So

302
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Charlie has been working on that as part

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of a bigger project.

304
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No, I'll be referring my question is

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that

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downsize the law department and just

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looking up to rather than having him in

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the law department, why not move him

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align

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so the law department can hire an actual

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assistance operation to function and to

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assist with that department.

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Well, if we had attorneys, I might look

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at that, but right now that's who I put

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where.

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Any other question for the section?

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Yes, that is page 16.

318
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I was just going to ask could you say

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the page number? So that's very good.

320
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Thank you.

321
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As you can see we got the same as 22

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questions.

323
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Go ahead. Um so uh for judgment claims I

324
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was wondering how many current cases are

325
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pending and is this enough to cover what

326
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we have out there? We have a lot out

327
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there obviously you know we have cases

328
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that you know some cases obviously go on

329
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for years you know so to know when

330
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certain cases are going to be resolved

331
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and how they will be resolved is you

332
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know um we can only take an educated

333
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guess and even an educated guess is you

334
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know really just a guess um so to say

335
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that you know if I tell you how many

336
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cases we have that's not really going to

337
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be indicative of when those cases will

338
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win.

339
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Um, you know, even if somebody's suing

340
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the city for,

341
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you know, millions of dollars,

342
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hypothetically, that certainly doesn't

343
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mean that a claim either has merit and

344
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if it does have merit, that is worth $10

345
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million, right? Be worth substantially

346
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less. Um on top of that, even if we have

347
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depending on the type of claim it is,

348
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obviously we the city has insurance and

349
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in most cases um we would be covered,

350
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you know, um anything outside of our

351
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deductible. Our deductible um is

352
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$100,000.

353
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Um so, you know, um even if a case, for

354
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example, settles at a million dollars,

355
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that would mean that the city's only

356
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responsible for its deductible in

357
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generally every instance. Um so I don't

358
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have the exact number of cases that we

359
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currently have pending. Um I don't you

360
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know there are certain cases that you

361
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know that will probably arise during you

362
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know 2023. Uh there are certain cases

363
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I'm sure that will be settled during

364
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2023. Uh, you know, we I actually got um

365
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a series of letters yesterday from one

366
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of our outside counsel saying that, you

367
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know, this two of our cases were closed

368
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out because the plaintiff didn't take

369
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certain action that plaintiff had to do.

370
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I didn't anticipate that happening, but

371
00:19:01,039 --> 00:19:03,039
it happened, right? And that's good for

372
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the city in terms of potential

373
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liability.

374
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Um, so it's really hard to say exactly

375
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where things will fall. I don't see any

376
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cases on the horizon that um are going

377
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to affect the city's um ability to pay a

378
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deductible or anything outside of um a

379
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case that would be outside of our

380
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insurance coverage. Um and then

381
00:19:27,600 --> 00:19:29,840
obviously we have taxerts as well which

382
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is somewhat related to the lawsuit too.

383
00:19:32,559 --> 00:19:35,360
Um again we have some big taxerts that

384
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are out there but you know some of them

385
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may turn into you know they may not go

386
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anywhere and some of them may not be

387
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resolved during the course of 2023. So

388
00:19:46,000 --> 00:19:49,360
again I you know I it would be hard to

389
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say exactly how much we need to allocate

390
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for settlements or for lawsuits. Um it's

391
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you know really a guessing game and I

392
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think generally generally we've done

393
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pretty well with anticipating um you

394
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know what the cost will will be.

395
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So thank you. So, um, then what's our do

396
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:13,590
you know our year to date for 2022?

397
00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,880
How much we how much we've paid and for

398
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I don't know the number off hand that we

399
00:20:19,440 --> 00:20:23,200
offand but I I know it's aboutund and

400
00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:24,960
some thousand we just paid.

401
00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,400
I mean obviously the city council's

402
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:28,559
aware of certain cases that you know

403
00:20:28,559 --> 00:20:30,799
we've some where it was you know the

404
00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:33,120
deductible had to be paid. Um, and then

405
00:20:33,120 --> 00:20:34,880
there are certain cases that fell below

406
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:37,039
the deductible, certain car accidents,

407
00:20:37,039 --> 00:20:38,480
things along those lines where the city

408
00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:39,840
council, you know, on the back end

409
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approved. Um, and there have been a

410
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maybe maybe one or two cases where it

411
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was under the threshold to bring to

412
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council.

413
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Um, you know, where it was maybe like

414
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$150 or something along those lines.

415
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Um, so, you know, I think we can

416
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certainly try to calculate those numbers

417
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and get them to you.

418
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Thank you.

419
00:21:00,799 --> 00:21:03,200
Any other questions?

420
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:11,430
Thank you.

421
00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:14,240
We'll we'll revert back to regular um

422
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stuff, but we'll go to uh Mr. Ferrari

423
00:21:16,559 --> 00:21:18,799
for revenue and then we'll work your way

424
00:21:18,799 --> 00:21:19,760
through the rest.

425
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:21,360
All right, let's start with the revenue.

426
00:21:21,360 --> 00:21:25,120
I think the biggest question is uh

427
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:29,990
property tax. I'm standing out here are

428
00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,640
the county appropriations where we

429
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:36,470
assess that.

430
00:21:36,480 --> 00:21:39,919
I'm sorry. Thank you.

431
00:21:39,919 --> 00:21:43,280
And what we assess that how we got to

432
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:52,870
that number.

433
00:21:52,880 --> 00:21:57,190
No, take it.

434
00:21:57,200 --> 00:22:00,400
So our assessed value as of August 1st

435
00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:07,029
is uh 2 billion434,447691.

436
00:22:07,039 --> 00:22:12,720
Uh that number uh is not our final number.

437
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,280
That number uh uh that Molly uh closes

438
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:19,120
out on is in middle uh mid November. So,

439
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,000
uh, we're actually passing a, you know,

440
00:22:22,000 --> 00:22:25,280
a tax bill an assumption that it won't

441
00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:27,520
change. Uh, we're look we're looking at

442
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,400
the estimate of u at we're looking at

443
00:22:30,400 --> 00:22:32,799
the estimate at that number. Uh, and

444
00:22:32,799 --> 00:22:37,760
we're we we feel that uh

445
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,240
that because of that there' be no uh Oh

446
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,600
my god. Did I give you the one of the

447
00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:49,110
numbers? Hold on here.

448
00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:51,600
Yes, I think

449
00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:55,120
but uh our tax our tax liability is

450
00:22:55,120 --> 00:22:58,470
going to be 31,629,000

451
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:00,720
I think on your sheet on the next

452
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:05,600
it's 69,000 $20 a little different

453
00:23:05,600 --> 00:23:07,919
but it actually the tax levies actually

454
00:23:07,919 --> 00:23:09,760
the proposed tax rate actually stays the

455
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,679
same value might go up it might go down

456
00:23:13,679 --> 00:23:16,559
uh there's a letter from um our uh

457
00:23:16,559 --> 00:23:20,240
assessor who points out that uh uh that

458
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,320
it usually does move up a little bit but

459
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:24,960
that that change will only add to like

460
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,840
uh cent. So it might our tax rate might

461
00:23:27,840 --> 00:23:31,679
go down to 1297 or 1296 you know but uh

462
00:23:31,679 --> 00:23:32,880
that's something like she said she

463
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:35,039
cannot predict because of transfer of

464
00:23:35,039 --> 00:23:37,360
property and removal exemptions as we go

465
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:40,159
along in the letter. So that that's how

466
00:23:40,159 --> 00:23:42,400
we came up with the the amount of

467
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,660
631,629,000

468
00:23:44,660 --> 00:23:45,760
[Music]

469
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:50,559
for uh real property taxes um and a tax

470
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:54,320
rate of $12.99 which is the same as of

471
00:23:54,320 --> 00:23:56,960
last year. I also gave you a list of uh

472
00:23:56,960 --> 00:23:59,919
of on that second page of all the tax

473
00:23:59,919 --> 00:24:02,400
rates as we pulled just to give an idea

474
00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,000
how it would been uh moving on that.

475
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,840
Um

476
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,159
uh the next big item was sales and news

477
00:24:10,159 --> 00:24:13,440
tax. We worked with the uh connecting

478
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,159
county. We're looking at a sales tax

479
00:24:16,159 --> 00:24:20,480
receivable of $16 million in 203. Um,

480
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:23,360
and we're hoping uh that

481
00:24:23,360 --> 00:24:26,880
comes to uh fruition. Uh, let let me ask

482
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,960
one one of the big things I'm just going

483
00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,760
to go for it right now is is uh uh the

484
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,919
trash charges.

485
00:24:33,919 --> 00:24:36,799
And again, I'll pass out uh some

486
00:24:36,799 --> 00:24:39,440
documents trash charges that uh the

487
00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,600
first page is what it was at point as it

488
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:50,950
is right now without the change. Uh

489
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:57,170
Thanks. Sorry.

490
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[Music]

491
00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:08,480
Okay. So, so we're looking at this is if

492
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:11,120
we kept uh if we kept the uh the rates

493
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,279
the same, we're looking at a total of

494
00:25:13,279 --> 00:25:17,919
5.2 million. Uh our uh our uh estimate

495
00:25:17,919 --> 00:25:21,360
is that we wish to increase it by $1 a

496
00:25:21,360 --> 00:25:26,480
week to 5 uh $2 uh $1 a week to $52 more

497
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:30,000
a week. But not only on the uh uh single

498
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,240
families but also on the exempt parcels

499
00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,840
to go from 137 to 189 will give us an

500
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,880
increase uh to 6.3 million a $1.1

501
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:42,799
million uh increase. On the third page

502
00:25:42,799 --> 00:25:45,039
I'm just trying to show the third page

503
00:25:45,039 --> 00:25:48,480
shows the the budget of 22 and the the

504
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,799
new request and what it costs us uh per

505
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:53,120
year to run the waste division. As you

506
00:25:53,120 --> 00:25:56,799
can see, we have a shortfall of 413,000.

507
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,720
And that doesn't include the indirect

508
00:25:58,720 --> 00:26:00,799
costs like general liability insurance,

509
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:03,279
doesn't include a fuel for trucks, uh

510
00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:06,640
electrical, heat, and repairs. Okay.

511
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,400
And uh the next page, one of the more

512
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,000
reasons why it went up was uh uh we had

513
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,559
them uh for the waste employment raises.

514
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:19,120
Uh in 2020 uh uh they were getting paid

515
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:22,480
$17.990 and as of 2023 they'll be

516
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,720
getting paid 2332

517
00:26:24,720 --> 00:26:27,679
which uh is a $542

518
00:26:27,679 --> 00:26:31,600
uh uh uh increase which is a 30%

519
00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:33,679
increase in employment. These guys are

520
00:26:33,679 --> 00:26:35,679
worth every penny. I'm not saying, but

521
00:26:35,679 --> 00:26:37,360
I'm just saying this is why we need to

522
00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:43,679
increase our rates. It's because uh not only not only as cost more to, you

523
00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:45,520
know, have these guys working, but also

524
00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:46,880
cost more for the fuel is going to

525
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,640
double up, all this other stuff. We're

526
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:52,559
asking a simple uh dollar a week more. I

527
00:26:52,559 --> 00:26:54,559
spoke to my brother Joey. He has a house

528
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:57,760
in Glennville. Uh he has one container

529
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,000
and one recycle container. He's a one

530
00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,640
family house, two people in his house.

531
00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:05,279
It pays $47 a month comes to like $500

532
00:27:05,279 --> 00:27:06,960
and something dollars a year for a

533
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,440
single family. What with our new rate

534
00:27:09,440 --> 00:27:11,200
are we're asking for a single family is

535
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,960
301. So you still a slow deal for the

536
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,880
city of connecting. So I just want to

537
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,480
put you in mind that you know

538
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,720
everything's increasing. Uh the recycle

539
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,760
fees they're going from 125,000 last

540
00:27:23,760 --> 00:27:28,159
year to 175,000 this year. Uh our elots

541
00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:29,919
you know where for our TVs and stuff

542
00:27:29,919 --> 00:27:32,720
like that they they won't even contract

543
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,120
with us anymore because

544
00:27:35,120 --> 00:27:36,640
their their weight is so much higher.

545
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,159
They're like, "Hey, if you got to either

546
00:27:38,159 --> 00:27:40,720
pay this or not, you know, so we can't

547
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:41,919
even go out and contract with them

548
00:27:41,919 --> 00:27:44,799
because it changes." So that that is our

549
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,159
uh uh reasoning of increasing uh the

550
00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:49,679
waste

551
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:51,840
uh department

552
00:27:51,840 --> 00:27:55,360
to 6.3 million. Uh what else

553
00:27:55,360 --> 00:27:56,240
before you go?

554
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,360
Yeah. Um McCarthy, when you present your

555
00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:01,360
budget, u you had mentioned that um the

556
00:28:01,360 --> 00:28:03,520
waste collection does not factor in

557
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:06,720
sight collection revenue.

558
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,480
Uh

559
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:10,080
the summary

560
00:28:10,080 --> 00:28:11,600
the budget

561
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,480
the whole budget has it that summary was

562
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,279
done not include the revenue that we

563
00:28:17,279 --> 00:28:19,840
derived from the village of Scotia. Does

564
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:20,559
this include

565
00:28:20,559 --> 00:28:22,240
that's a contractual thing. I mean we

566
00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,760
have it now. I think we have it for two

567
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,760
more years or one more year,

568
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:27,360
but who knows if they're going to

569
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:28,399
continue that,

570
00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:29,600
but that is not in here.

571
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,520
That is not part of the uh

572
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,640
Okay. Science. Yeah. Uh and that is that

573
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:38,799
is a 500 uh 40ome,000.

574
00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:41,279
So uh really for us it would just break

575
00:28:41,279 --> 00:28:43,200
us even because we're already without it

576
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,320
we're 413,000 a year in the hole. Add

577
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:48,240
another 540. But like I said, they

578
00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:49,679
include insurance, they include fuel,

579
00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:52,480
didn't include maintenance. So 540,000

580
00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:54,399
per year. We have two more years

581
00:28:54,399 --> 00:28:55,679
at this contract.

582
00:28:55,679 --> 00:28:58,080
Yeah. In fact, they called me today. I

583
00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,840
called them today to make sure where

584
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:03,039
they're at.

585
00:29:03,039 --> 00:29:04,559
586.

586
00:29:04,559 --> 00:29:05,120
Go ahead.

587
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:06,720
I'm just a little confused on that one.

588
00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,799
So are we I just want to clarify again.

589
00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:11,279
So that 540,000 or whatever

590
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:14,399
586. It's not that factored. It's not

591
00:29:14,399 --> 00:29:16,080
factored in that page,

592
00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:18,399
but it is in the budget.

593
00:29:18,399 --> 00:29:19,840
Yeah. That's what I wanted to make sure.

594
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:21,039
But I'm saying that Since that's

595
00:29:21,039 --> 00:29:23,279
contractual, that can leave us at any

596
00:29:23,279 --> 00:29:25,520
dime.

597
00:29:25,520 --> 00:29:27,440
And we can't raise that rate because the

598
00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:28,799
contract lasts for two more years. That

599
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:29,200
was one.

600
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Yeah, our our rate does increase.

601
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:36,080
It increase year,

602
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,840
but like I said, it might be that they

603
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,799
might not

604
00:29:40,799 --> 00:29:42,720
renew it. So, I I didn't

605
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:44,159
Well, you don't want to say that.

606
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:46,559
Yeah. Well, I'm just saying I'm just I'm

607
00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:49,360
just saying I'm conservative doing this.

608
00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:52,240
Yeah. We wanted to re they have gone out

609
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,640
and looked at other options and the city

610
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,720
of Skenki is the most cost effective for

611
00:29:56,720 --> 00:29:59,520
the bill of Scotia shows that we run a

612
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:04,399
very efficient operation and we look at

613
00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:07,440
that partnership as an example of uh

614
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:08,880
good relationship with other

615
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,720
communities. Our ability to deliver

616
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,520
services at a cost effective price

617
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:16,549
point.

618
00:30:16,559 --> 00:30:19,520
Um someone's mentioned earlier

619
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:21,120
missionary

620
00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,320
is working with someone. So

621
00:30:24,320 --> 00:30:27,600
here we have a single person senior with

622
00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,799
one can and then thousands of packages

623
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:32,240
you know trash in front of another

624
00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:35,279
house. Is there a way to

625
00:30:35,279 --> 00:30:36,240
over time

626
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,399
but that one single person in one house

627
00:30:38,399 --> 00:30:41,919
for trash is only pay9 a year.

628
00:30:41,919 --> 00:30:43,520
Okay.

629
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:45,360
is with increase.

630
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,200
No, no, no. Not I I don't have a problem

631
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120
with the increase. I have a problem with

632
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,120
people putting out, you know, a thousand

633
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:52,480
bags of track.

634
00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,580
And that's what we're looking at.

635
00:30:54,580 --> 00:30:56,159
[Music]

636
00:30:56,159 --> 00:30:57,760
Okay.

637
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,240
Cost effective manner that we can manage

638
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,200
and enforce and

639
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:03,760
put in.

640
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,120
That's my concern.

641
00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:08,880
I'm not sure we're going to have a

642
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:10,480
formal recommendation by the time the

643
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,399
council adopts a budget. It would just

644
00:31:12,399 --> 00:31:15,440
be an ongoing process. And again, as the

645
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:18,720
council, it's closer to November 1st. If

646
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,559
there's things that we can modify in

647
00:31:20,559 --> 00:31:22,240
some way,

648
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:26,720
uh want to do it. It for basic homeowner

649
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:28,880
probably, it's a very good deal when you

650
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,960
compare it to what you pay in a suburban

651
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,640
location.

652
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,159
Having said that, there's still

653
00:31:34,159 --> 00:31:36,000
inequities within the system because

654
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:38,000
it's so good. People take advantage of

655
00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:41,120
it where they put out huge amounts of

656
00:31:41,120 --> 00:31:44,880
material and we pick it up and

657
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,519
if it's that once in a-lifetime event,

658
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:51,279
my position would be more tolerant of

659
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:52,960
it, but there's some people who do it on

660
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:56,080
a more frequent basis. And it's how do

661
00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,840
we adjust our rate structure, our

662
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:02,240
ability to document and field bill and

663
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,720
appropriately allocate those costs to

664
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,200
those higher yield

665
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,880
increased revenue

666
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:10,799
properties of

667
00:32:10,799 --> 00:32:14,000
again the slang term that the uh cruise

668
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:17,360
us is a jackpot house and

669
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,559
the casino views jackpots in another way

670
00:32:20,559 --> 00:32:23,600
more positive

671
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,919
cruise here. It's a negative.

672
00:32:25,919 --> 00:32:27,440
And just for clarification, it's Mr.

673
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:28,799
Alhorn that's working that out.

674
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:30,399
Oh, okay. I thought I heard your name.

675
00:32:30,399 --> 00:32:32,240
You didn't, but he's doing that work.

676
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,399
Yeah. And um I I know in Roderdam, I

677
00:32:34,399 --> 00:32:36,320
mean, if you have a couch, you call, you

678
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,320
schedule the couch and they add that on

679
00:32:38,320 --> 00:32:40,960
to your bill, you know, $30 to take the

680
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:44,159
couch away and you drive down Rendle

681
00:32:44,159 --> 00:32:45,840
where I live. You know, there's 14

682
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:47,919
couches on the street every week. So,

683
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:52,470
yeah, it's a lot of work.

684
00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,760
Let's back go back to page one. Um under

685
00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,320
street crimes task force come from

686
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:03,840
you have 520 here versus last year.

687
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,720
Yes. Uh as of uh just recently I think

688
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:09,120
they cut two officers down on the street

689
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,960
uh county street crime task force.

690
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,640
We

691
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:19,360
go ahead please. Uh, so we lo we for a

692
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:22,080
couple months we gave them

693
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:24,000
of the analyst. Yes, we

694
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,399
No, you're talking about the street

695
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:26,880
task force.

696
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:30,080
The task force with the revenue they we

697
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:31,840
were they were paying us for an analyst

698
00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:33,279
and we were giving them analyst. They

699
00:33:33,279 --> 00:33:34,880
decided to hire their own analyst. So

700
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,120
they took that money out.

701
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,399
That's the redemption.

702
00:33:38,399 --> 00:33:40,720
So that's one u

703
00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:41,519
one

704
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,279
and you'll see that when we go into the

705
00:33:43,279 --> 00:33:45,840
police department how the increase from

706
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,990
16,000 to 96,000.

707
00:33:50,000 --> 00:33:51,279
That was the question.

708
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:52,880
And the next question is, did we not

709
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,880
receive some actual from the school this

710
00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,519
year?

711
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:56,159
Excuse me.

712
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:58,320
Did we not receive some actual

713
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:01,679
from the school district? This year

714
00:34:01,679 --> 00:34:02,799
from the school district.

715
00:34:02,799 --> 00:34:04,000
We receive money from the school

716
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:04,320
district.

717
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,720
Yeah. 2022.

718
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,679
No, go ahead.

719
00:34:07,679 --> 00:34:09,119
It probably wouldn't be until the end of

720
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:09,679
this quarter.

721
00:34:09,679 --> 00:34:12,720
Oh, yeah. Just started charging.

722
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,720
Oh, I see what you're saying. Yeah, you

723
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:17,919
have zero here. We get an amendment.

724
00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:18,800
Yeah, that's the

725
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:19,919
Should we adjust that

726
00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:23,440
1520? I have it for 225. It's 50,000.

727
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:26,320
It's going to be for 34 plus 25,000 plus

728
00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:27,280
34.

729
00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,879
So 2022, should we have a number in

730
00:34:30,879 --> 00:34:32,480
there?

731
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:33,919
What are we expecting?

732
00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:36,800
Shouldn't that number be 300,000?

733
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,639
No, because because we're because the

734
00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:42,869
first squad is in 2022.

735
00:34:42,879 --> 00:34:44,720
I I don't know about the first squad. I

736
00:34:44,720 --> 00:34:47,040
don't know if that's happening. Has it

737
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:48,240
happened?

738
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:52,879
We have a sergeant there now. I think

739
00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:54,879
July 1st, but they are at school now.

740
00:34:54,879 --> 00:34:58,550
Okay, good.

741
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:00,079
So, should we account for that money

742
00:35:00,079 --> 00:35:03,040
under the 2022 adopted budget?

743
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:07,670
We will.

744
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:09,599
When we did the adopted budget, it was

745
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:10,560
not part of this.

746
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,200
It was 2022 or 202.

747
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:16,800
So, we're looking at So, we did an amendment to receive that

748
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:18,240
money.

749
00:35:18,240 --> 00:35:19,520
But but we're looking because because

750
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,160
this is based on what we adopted in 22.

751
00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,880
We did adopt it in 22,

752
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:27,680
you know. So, we did it in 23. We assume

753
00:35:27,680 --> 00:35:31,200
to receive the first four two actually.

754
00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,040
Understanding. But since we did an

755
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,200
amendment to the 2022 budget, we should

756
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,119
have actually

757
00:35:37,119 --> 00:35:38,400
had done this before you.

758
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:39,280
Okay.

759
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:42,320
So I would like if you can do that.

760
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:43,040
Okay.

761
00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,119
So that would be that would be an ask.

762
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:46,960
How much will that be? Do we think for

763
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,589
those two quarters?

764
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,589
75.

765
00:35:55,599 --> 00:35:57,440
Okay. We have to read all those columns

766
00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:00,400
there. John, I'm just kidding.

767
00:36:00,400 --> 00:36:02,720
I don't understand. You know that

768
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:03,680
effect?

769
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:05,119
No, it's not. I think he's just trying

770
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:06,400
to be show the

771
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,720
I just want to show that we actually

772
00:36:08,720 --> 00:36:11,520
received or get it last. That's not

773
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,480
affected. I'll just show it on paper.

774
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:15,760
Go ahead, please.

775
00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:20,240
Okay. What else you want to look at?

776
00:36:20,250 --> 00:36:24,630
[Music]

777
00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,040
Okay. Someone asked a question about

778
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:29,359
hazmat.

779
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:34,069
I don't know who

780
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,640
we incorporated in a base number. So if

781
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,400
that carries an additional one,

782
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,240
Miss Michael, can you please u make a

783
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,359
copy of our sales tax agreement and

784
00:36:45,359 --> 00:36:48,400
please pass it on to the new council

785
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,000
members?

786
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:52,960
Mr. To answer your question

787
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,400
agreement that is inapproporate into

788
00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:00,230
Okay.

789
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,320
Uh, one of the things I have that I know

790
00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:04,400
you're all interested is how we came up

791
00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:09,680
with 5.8 million in AR for 2023. And so

792
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:13,200
I put out a sheet which actually

793
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:16,079
for what we did in 22 and 23 the front

794
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:18,000
and back.

795
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:31,270
Thank you.

796
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:32,160
I got it.

797
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:35,510
I got one.

798
00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:40,160
Oh, I don't I don't have one. I'm sorry.

799
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:42,079
Do you need another one?

800
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:42,480
Here.

801
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,320
Oh, here we go.

802
00:37:44,320 --> 00:37:48,800
Thank you. There's a line for all that

803
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:53,190
we have in the budget.

804
00:37:53,200 --> 00:37:55,520
Actually, you can trace right back to

805
00:37:55,520 --> 00:38:27,589
most

806
00:38:27,599 --> 00:38:28,400
You got any questions?

807
00:38:28,400 --> 00:38:30,160
Any question on this? Go ahead, please.

808
00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:33,119
Well, that was my overarching number one

809
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,160
question that really didn't need to ask

810
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,079
any other questions, but and I see the

811
00:38:38,079 --> 00:38:42,480
answer is that um so my question was um

812
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:46,000
after the 5.8 million goes away um which

813
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:49,280
is obviously filling many many

814
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:51,359
items here on this sheet that you just

815
00:38:51,359 --> 00:38:53,680
gave us, what are we going to do? So the

816
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,040
answer is that we're going to get our

817
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,640
revenues back on track. Um, so I just

818
00:38:58,640 --> 00:38:59,760
want to hear a little bit more about

819
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,520
that in terms of how we're going to get

820
00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:04,320
5.8 million last years. A lot of our

821
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:08,079
revenues have really decreased or

822
00:39:08,079 --> 00:39:11,119
actually just stopped and some are just

823
00:39:11,119 --> 00:39:13,520
getting slow. Uh, you know, a lot of our

824
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,359
like our parking just starting to come

825
00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:18,079
back now in 2022. We now ride on box

826
00:39:18,079 --> 00:39:19,760
shows. So now we're starting to get our

827
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:22,000
parking revenues, you know, our fines

828
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:24,000
and stuff from the police department. uh

829
00:39:24,000 --> 00:39:26,720
code enforcement uh uh you know that

830
00:39:26,720 --> 00:39:29,680
they've been real slow because all the

831
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,800
problems for the foreclosure revenues uh

832
00:39:32,800 --> 00:39:34,560
from foreclosures

833
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,640
uh all those revenues we feel that are

834
00:39:36,640 --> 00:39:39,680
going to start coming back in and we're

835
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,599
hopefully that's going to happen we'll

836
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:44,320
get back on track. Do we have a rough

837
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,839
number as to like when you're saying

838
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:49,200
that they're well um that that they have

839
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:50,320
slowed or stopped? Do we have like

840
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:52,240
estimate number around like to what to

841
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:54,560
what tune that is and is it you know

842
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,560
comparable to this number in front of

843
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,720
us? I believe uh for

844
00:39:58,720 --> 00:40:00,320
Yeah, I don't respect that.

845
00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,880
For 2022, we figured uh you know,

846
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:05,760
revenues were down about 3 million

847
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:11,119
for uh 2020 2022. Uh for 2023, we think

848
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:13,760
it's it's start coming back and and

849
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,440
we're we're hoping they'll make it up

850
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,680
for that. uh we you know we're we're

851
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,160
trying to uh use this ARC money to the

852
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,200
advantage of us so that uh uh you know

853
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:25,599
we can uh finish the work that we're

854
00:40:25,599 --> 00:40:28,640
trying to do uh get people into place

855
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:34,480
for work and use it to go forward uh as we show the jobs

856
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:35,839
provide more services you know code

857
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:37,520
enforcement now we're really building

858
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,839
our code enforcement up all our

859
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:41,359
different things so we can go out there

860
00:40:41,359 --> 00:40:44,160
and get more revenues you know what do

861
00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:46,800
you do if you can't make

862
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,320
You know, you know, you got to realize

863
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:50,400
too in in America, you know, this we're

864
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:52,640
having a recession. We're having uh

865
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,599
price increases. We're having uh uh what

866
00:40:55,599 --> 00:40:57,359
do you call inflation? Everything's

867
00:40:57,359 --> 00:40:59,760
going up. You know, we're we're like a

868
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:01,839
business here. You know, we hire we have

869
00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:04,480
600 almost 700 employees. You know, we

870
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:05,680
got to think about what do we do? You

871
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:07,359
know, we might have to raise prices as

872
00:41:07,359 --> 00:41:11,839
we say or you know, different lines

873
00:41:11,839 --> 00:41:13,440
going forward.

874
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,359
revenues for the city. It's really

875
00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:17,680
dependent on housing.

876
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,240
We haven't done the foreclosures

877
00:41:20,240 --> 00:41:23,280
for almost two years now. We're going to

878
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:26,079
bring those online. Again, I had asked

879
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,319
for some ARPA money. The council hasn't

880
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:31,200
acted on that yet to be able to convert

881
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,839
some of that distressed housing into

882
00:41:33,839 --> 00:41:36,000
affordable housing, create home

883
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,280
ownership opportunities within the city.

884
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:43,760
But that housing component where we do

885
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:48,480
it successfully, you see reduce need for

886
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:51,680
code enforcement, police, other services

887
00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:53,920
and you create real value in the

888
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:57,359
neighborhoods and that has to be a

889
00:41:57,359 --> 00:41:59,280
collective engagement that we're all in

890
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:02,319
is promoting the housing opportunities.

891
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:04,079
And as you look at that, you know,

892
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:06,319
skimmed over the first line is our

893
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:08,880
uncollectibles in property tax. The

894
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,640
interesting thing states can actually

895
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:16,079
during ARPA, our property tax revenue

896
00:42:16,079 --> 00:42:18,720
stayed fairly consistent. In fact,

897
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:21,920
increased slightly basically every

898
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:24,240
quarter. The percentage of money that we

899
00:42:24,240 --> 00:42:28,400
were collecting. there's still a

900
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,240
group of individuals out there, property

901
00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:32,240
owners out there who do not pay their

902
00:42:32,240 --> 00:42:37,040
taxes. That drives up our overall costs.

903
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,520
And again, when you look at where we're

904
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,680
the tax foreclosing unit, other

905
00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,920
municipalities in the area have the

906
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:48,160
county as the tax foreclosing unit.

907
00:42:48,160 --> 00:42:51,359
We're responsible for it. And that means

908
00:42:51,359 --> 00:42:53,119
that we have to when they don't pay the

909
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:57,040
taxes, we have to collect it. Other

910
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,119
municipalities,

911
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:01,520
the county does it and holds the

912
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,119
municipality harmless. So when they

913
00:43:03,119 --> 00:43:05,760
adopt their budget, they put a dollar

914
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,920
amount in there and the county will make

915
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:11,119
that number whole. City of Albany has

916
00:43:11,119 --> 00:43:13,280
that or the county makes it whole. The

917
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:16,079
towns in Skenctity County are held

918
00:43:16,079 --> 00:43:20,079
harmless by the county. The city

919
00:43:20,079 --> 00:43:23,040
stands alone and we have to do the

920
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:26,079
collection and then we because we're the

921
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:27,920
foreclosing unit, we hold the school

922
00:43:27,920 --> 00:43:29,680
district

923
00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:34,079
harmless and we have to make up that uh

924
00:43:34,079 --> 00:43:38,480
gap in school taxes. uh and it's how do

925
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:42,000
we chip away at that on an ongoing basis

926
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:46,319
to uh get some of the problem people out

927
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:49,280
who are it's long-term you look at some

928
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,040
of the properties they just don't pay

929
00:43:51,040 --> 00:43:53,040
the taxes on it a lot of times they

930
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:54,640
shouldn't be property owners to begin

931
00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:58,319
with but that is a factor that if

932
00:43:58,319 --> 00:44:02,640
everybody paid their taxes and came in

933
00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:05,040
budgets going forward are a lot easier a

934
00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:08,240
lot simpler and uh

935
00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:16,230
should be across the board tax cuts.

936
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:18,960
Any questions? Just back up a little.

937
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,800
The cannabis excise tax,

938
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,640
right? That's from the state.

939
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,040
Oh, that

940
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,560
you come up with that number.

941
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:27,200
From the state.

942
00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:28,880
If that's all they can

943
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:32,079
give us. Well, well, they says uh uh you

944
00:44:32,079 --> 00:44:33,760
know they're going to start doing stores

945
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:36,880
early in 2023.

946
00:44:36,880 --> 00:44:39,280
I I you know, I asked them and they're

947
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:41,200
very unsure. That's an authority or

948
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:43,359
whatever associated over there. They're

949
00:44:43,359 --> 00:44:45,040
pretty much they don't have they don't

950
00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:47,040
have a lot of things in place

951
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,040
and uh they gave me they gave me that

952
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:50,480
estimate for the first year.

953
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:51,440
Where is that?

954
00:44:51,440 --> 00:44:53,599
The last page page five.

955
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:54,960
Yeah. To the top.

956
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,280
Oh, I see it.

957
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,920
Once once that gets up and

958
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,440
running, we're hoping to make hundreds

959
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:02,480
of thousands.

960
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:03,760
That's what I wanted to see.

961
00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:05,680
That's my question, right?

962
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:07,119
I wanted to put something in because I

963
00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:08,640
knew we're going to get something. If if

964
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,079
we get surprised and we sell a lot,

965
00:45:10,079 --> 00:45:11,599
we'll get some number. I don't know what

966
00:45:11,599 --> 00:45:12,079
it is.

967
00:45:12,079 --> 00:45:12,880
That's the number.

968
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:14,640
We got to get a year under our belt to

969
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,400
really have good predictions.

970
00:45:16,400 --> 00:45:18,400
It's better conservative estimate.

971
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,880
Yeah.

972
00:45:20,880 --> 00:45:22,400
Mor, I do have a question. Go ahead,

973
00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:22,720
please.

974
00:45:22,720 --> 00:45:24,079
So, I just wanted a little bit more

975
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:26,319
clarification on the revenue. Um, you

976
00:45:26,319 --> 00:45:27,920
said, you know, you kind of gave an over

977
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:29,359
There are other specifics of Could you

978
00:45:29,359 --> 00:45:31,680
show us specifically where we had that

979
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:33,920
loss in revenue over the next I mean not

980
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:35,920
right at this moment so we have

981
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:37,839
something to compare this other number

982
00:45:37,839 --> 00:45:38,480
with

983
00:45:38,480 --> 00:45:40,160
that we're projecting that we're going

984
00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,000
to be able to recover in the next

985
00:45:42,000 --> 00:45:43,920
like interest like for instance interest

986
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,520
on penalties you we're looking like

987
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:49,680
$100,000 loss. Uh we're looking at

988
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,960
uh franchise fees u we're looking at

989
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:54,640
probably

990
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:57,200
you know we're estimating $50,000 loss.

991
00:45:57,200 --> 00:45:59,920
Uh

992
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:00,400
big one.

993
00:46:00,400 --> 00:46:02,400
Are you looking at your actuals or are

994
00:46:02,400 --> 00:46:02,960
you looking at

995
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:05,119
I'm looking at actuals compared to how

996
00:46:05,119 --> 00:46:06,560
we're going.

997
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:09,359
So yeah. Uh you know we're we're

998
00:46:09,359 --> 00:46:11,680
estimating now for instance uh if you

999
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:14,560
looked at the downtown parking in 2020

1000
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:16,480
we had 93,000.

1001
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:19,680
We're looking at 240,000 for 2023. I

1002
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,079
mean that's we're picking up revenues

1003
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:23,920
and I said that's how hopefully our

1004
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,280
revenues are going to start coming back

1005
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:27,920
again.

1006
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:30,480
Um, our towing search charge. We're

1007
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:32,079
finally making money on towing. Thank

1008
00:46:32,079 --> 00:46:35,920
God. Uh,

1009
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:41,920
we're looking at raising like cash uh

1010
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,800
150. We're

1011
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:49,680
we went from in 2021 uh like plumbing of

1012
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:52,240
licensing and electrical from like 190

1013
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:55,760
180,000 down to 150. And now we're we're

1014
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,839
actually starting to bring those back to

1015
00:46:57,839 --> 00:47:00,000
175. You know, now we're starting to

1016
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:03,119
raise them, but we're saying there was a loss and we're hoping in

1017
00:47:03,119 --> 00:47:06,160
2023 we start the process of increasing

1018
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:09,589
those revenues.

1019
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:10,880
Mr.

1020
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,520
So when you do that um when you when you

1021
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:15,520
do give us this more specifics that Miss

1022
00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:17,680
Porterfield just it would be interesting

1023
00:47:17,680 --> 00:47:19,359
um and I'm sure I probably have it at

1024
00:47:19,359 --> 00:47:23,119
home but to also include the 2019 actual

1025
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,440
revenue because that would be precoid.

1026
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:28,079
So if we're projecting that, you know,

1027
00:47:28,079 --> 00:47:30,400
we're going to get back to a certain

1028
00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:31,920
level of revenue, it might be

1029
00:47:31,920 --> 00:47:33,760
interesting to see what was the revenue

1030
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:37,440
in 2019 because looking at 2021, well

1031
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,119
that's that's during co so we can't

1032
00:47:39,119 --> 00:47:42,720
really make that comparison just looking

1033
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,839
at this because you know I I'm totally I

1034
00:47:45,839 --> 00:47:48,319
want to say that I'm totally in favor of

1035
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,960
using the ARPA funding

1036
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:55,040
for the purposes as outlined on these on

1037
00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:57,280
the sheet, but I just am concerned

1038
00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:58,880
especially when it comes to the staffing

1039
00:47:58,880 --> 00:48:02,079
issues. Um, you know, what happens to to

1040
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:05,599
folks if if we don't raise that revenue

1041
00:48:05,599 --> 00:48:06,960
because now we're going to be hiring

1042
00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:11,280
people using ARPA. Um, and you know,

1043
00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,119
so most most of the positions uh that

1044
00:48:13,119 --> 00:48:16,400
were using ARPA for positions uh that

1045
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:20,160
were never filled uh because of 19.

1046
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,680
Sure. They were there.

1047
00:48:21,680 --> 00:48:23,280
was those are positions that were

1048
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:23,839
there.

1049
00:48:23,839 --> 00:48:25,920
Yep. and now we're trying to fill them

1050
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:27,440
again, you know.

1051
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:27,520
So,

1052
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:28,960
I'm not worried about that. The other

1053
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,680
portion is is is the, you know, the

1054
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,160
stuff for uh, you know, youth, the the

1055
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,920
summer employment, other stuff like that

1056
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,599
is is more of a concern, but

1057
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:41,200
that all that all work out with the

1058
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,839
increase, I hope.

1059
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:44,400
Yeah.

1060
00:48:44,400 --> 00:48:46,480
So, let me recap. So we're asking for an

1061
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:48,960
actual revenue breakdown from 2019

1062
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,079
obviously to

1063
00:48:50,079 --> 00:48:54,880
from 2019 to 2022 up to date.

1064
00:48:54,880 --> 00:48:56,640
I can I and I'll do it. I can do it

1065
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:58,000
tomorrow. I'll send it off. I'm going to

1066
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:00,000
send it through email.

1067
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:02,800
Thank you.

1068
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,160
Any other question?

1069
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,680
Yeah, I just want to know what is the

1070
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,480
lead hazard reduction grant age 218?

1071
00:49:08,480 --> 00:49:12,240
Oh, we we uh uh our lead grant that we

1072
00:49:12,240 --> 00:49:14,160
have through the federal government is

1073
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,960
we're actually sponsor. Uh we go out and

1074
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:20,000
find homes that are have children that

1075
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:22,960
have in their homes. We go out, we test

1076
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:25,599
and and when when they are eligible, uh

1077
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:27,839
we actually have a grant to go in and we

1078
00:49:27,839 --> 00:49:29,680
do take all the lead out of the housing.

1079
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:30,880
Who actually does that work?

1080
00:49:30,880 --> 00:49:33,839
Uh right,

1081
00:49:33,839 --> 00:49:35,760
we we're we work with the county. County

1082
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:37,040
does the testing.

1083
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:39,440
We do we do all the paperwork for the

1084
00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,640
rehab and the inspections and stuff like

1085
00:49:42,640 --> 00:49:44,079
that. So we don't need to we don't have

1086
00:49:44,079 --> 00:49:45,119
to share anything just

1087
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,440
No

1088
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:48,240
money.

1089
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,280
Okay.

1090
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,000
And that that's a different grant than

1091
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,480
the the piping. Yes. Right.

1092
00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,440
Absolutely. For housing for children for

1093
00:49:57,440 --> 00:50:01,430
children. Children.

1094
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:02,079
Go ahead.

1095
00:50:02,079 --> 00:50:03,920
So this is so small but I just want to

1096
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,839
go on record about the tennis fees

1097
00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:06,319
again.

1098
00:50:06,319 --> 00:50:06,800
Yeah.

1099
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:10,480
Because I really I just feel like we're

1100
00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,319
losing revenue there. that that that

1101
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:13,680
there's a you know, we're not getting

1102
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:16,400
revenue from that we should be getting

1103
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:19,200
um from the tennis. So, I know it's a

1104
00:50:19,200 --> 00:50:20,960
really small amount of money that's in

1105
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:22,960
the budget, but I'd like to see us be

1106
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,400
able to

1107
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:25,920
I just put it in there just to always

1108
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,720
remind us about that. I I believe that

1109
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,440
uh when we do get a a director of parks,

1110
00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,520
I think that

1111
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:35,920
Okay, just want to go on record.

1112
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:37,599
Got to get those tennis tennis dollars

1113
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:39,200
for

1114
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:42,800
two is there. Come on.

1115
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,160
Um, go ahead.

1116
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,640
One final question on A589B,

1117
00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:48,880
the property management fee.

1118
00:50:48,880 --> 00:50:51,440
Uh, 159. Yeah, property management fee.

1119
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:55,040
Uh, that is uh the fee that what happens

1120
00:50:55,040 --> 00:50:58,160
is uh uh when our code enforcement are

1121
00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,200
nuisance inspectors to a home and then

1122
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,400
we have to cut the grass. We have to uh

1123
00:51:04,400 --> 00:51:06,000
you know take things out, clean out the

1124
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:08,240
properties, we charge the owners. This

1125
00:51:08,240 --> 00:51:10,319
is one of the revenues as you see the

1126
00:51:10,319 --> 00:51:12,160
past few years has been real low

1127
00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:13,920
and that's because of the co now we're

1128
00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:15,440
actually going to start taking that up

1129
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,400
again. That's why you know uh we're

1130
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:20,480
going to go we have it up to 100,000 for

1131
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,280
this year

1132
00:51:23,280 --> 00:51:24,319
we're actually going to be able to go

1133
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:26,960
out there and do more

1134
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:30,240
crews out there.

1135
00:51:30,240 --> 00:51:31,920
I actually have one more question.

1136
00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:32,960
Go ahead.

1137
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:36,079
So, um, in terms of it's in the police

1138
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:37,839
department when there's asset

1139
00:51:37,839 --> 00:51:39,440
forfeitures, does that show does that

1140
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,680
show anywhere in our budget for income?

1141
00:51:41,680 --> 00:51:42,960
Asset forfeitures,

1142
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:43,920
right?

1143
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,559
Only if you sell anything, but

1144
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:47,680
yeah, please.

1145
00:51:47,680 --> 00:51:50,880
No, this is your call. It has to be

1146
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:53,440
independent financial

1147
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:55,599
checking account. There's a lot of

1148
00:51:55,599 --> 00:51:57,359
guidelines we can share with you, but

1149
00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:02,720
it's um comes in be spent on certain items. You can't just use it for

1150
00:52:02,720 --> 00:52:04,559
salaries being used against the plan. In

1151
00:52:04,559 --> 00:52:06,559
other words, the bond in the face

1152
00:52:06,559 --> 00:52:08,480
basically to keep it like a separate

1153
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,559
check. Unfortunately, it's actually

1154
00:52:10,559 --> 00:52:12,800
pretty low right now just because the

1155
00:52:12,800 --> 00:52:15,359
way government's acting federal with the

1156
00:52:15,359 --> 00:52:17,839
seizure money is really it takes years

1157
00:52:17,839 --> 00:52:19,119
for us to get anything. They just did

1158
00:52:19,119 --> 00:52:20,559
that a few years ago and it really kind

1159
00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,200
of clogged the wheel. Um, so we still

1160
00:52:23,200 --> 00:52:25,920
had the account we probably have 10 15

1161
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:27,359
$20,000 in right now.

1162
00:52:27,359 --> 00:52:28,160
Less than 20.

1163
00:52:28,160 --> 00:52:30,880
So, so it's just a that's

1164
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:32,720
why I describe it. It's a check checking

1165
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:35,920
account within um finance.

1166
00:52:35,920 --> 00:52:37,839
Okay. So, it doesn't check.

1167
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:39,200
It's not a general fund or anything

1168
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:40,240
because you can't use it.

1169
00:52:40,240 --> 00:52:41,920
Yeah. You can't put into attaching

1170
00:52:41,920 --> 00:52:44,480
general funds and it's not you can't use

1171
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:47,359
it for

1172
00:52:47,359 --> 00:52:49,040
Thank you.

1173
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:54,150
Helps me get my haircut and stuff.

1174
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:56,240
No big deal.

1175
00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:57,920
Go ahead, please. So I had a question

1176
00:52:57,920 --> 00:52:59,920
and a comment and thank you for the

1177
00:52:59,920 --> 00:53:03,040
background provider. Um

1178
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,280
so referring to the refuse and trash

1179
00:53:05,280 --> 00:53:07,200
charges I just wanted to

1180
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:09,119
throw it out there. I think whenever we

1181
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,599
raise fees regardless of how much I

1182
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:13,520
think the principle needs to be

1183
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:15,839
addressed of if we're not increasing or

1184
00:53:15,839 --> 00:53:18,000
improving quality I would like to make

1185
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:19,599
sure that the city is taking accurate

1186
00:53:19,599 --> 00:53:20,880
steps to ensure we're holding the

1187
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,640
appropriate parties accountable. speaks

1188
00:53:22,640 --> 00:53:24,720
to the instances that in this tutorial

1189
00:53:24,720 --> 00:53:27,440
race, I would like to make sure that the

1190
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,359
individuals that are bearing the cost of

1191
00:53:29,359 --> 00:53:31,520
this aren't being taken advantage of by

1192
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:34,240
people that are throwing out more trash

1193
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:36,240
occasionally. Um, I know it's definitely

1194
00:53:36,240 --> 00:53:39,200
not a an easy solution. Um, but I think

1195
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:40,559
it's important for us to make sure that

1196
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:44,000
we we address the underlying issue. And

1197
00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:47,760
then a question was for the downtown Y

1198
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:51,280
parking meters, the A1741A.

1199
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,240
Uh I've heard more times than not that

1200
00:53:54,240 --> 00:53:57,760
the uh technical devices that we use

1201
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:00,800
uh are an

1202
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,200
issue at times for people that don't

1203
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:05,599
have cell phones or iPads or what have

1204
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:08,800
you. Has that been identified as a a

1205
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:11,040
factor inhibiting potential revenue in

1206
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:11,920
this area?

1207
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,839
Mr. Yes. So it has been uh very

1208
00:54:15,839 --> 00:54:18,640
troubling to get them going. Uh recently

1209
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,680
with we were able to upgrade I think 17

1210
00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,880
of the kiosks they needed newly the

1211
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,480
outside are the same but all the new

1212
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,079
guts are in there large solar panels to

1213
00:54:30,079 --> 00:54:33,040
control them and as of yesterday all but

1214
00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:35,760
one are now working. Um there's one that

1215
00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:38,559
the part

1216
00:54:38,559 --> 00:54:40,720
is coming in. So yes that has been an

1217
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:42,559
ongoing problem. We've been working with

1218
00:54:42,559 --> 00:54:47,359
a vendor for getting those corrected and

1219
00:54:47,359 --> 00:54:49,920
There's one as of today that is still

1220
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:52,319
done. All the other kiosks should be up

1221
00:54:52,319 --> 00:54:54,880
and going. It's been very long going

1222
00:54:54,880 --> 00:54:57,119
process. We'll get parts and that

1223
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:00,160
reprogram back and forth back and forth

1224
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,559
that problem.

1225
00:55:02,559 --> 00:55:04,160
And the thing with the vendor too is he

1226
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,119
had the same problem as everybody finds

1227
00:55:07,119 --> 00:55:08,960
to come out. You know, we had one guy

1228
00:55:08,960 --> 00:55:11,280
who was doing the whole east coast.

1229
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:14,319
Yes. One guy was out. He won't be back

1230
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:15,920
here for several months. He was flying

1231
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:17,599
west somewhere and said basically we're

1232
00:55:17,599 --> 00:55:20,640
not coming back.

1233
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:22,400
We'll walk you through stuff. One of our

1234
00:55:22,400 --> 00:55:24,880
parking guys stepped up and uh learned

1235
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:27,040
the system and started working on it. Um

1236
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:29,599
and he did a great job and now it's

1237
00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:32,640
that was

1238
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:35,280
they are working.

1239
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,160
They'll be giving him ideas.

1240
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:38,880
Go ahead please.

1241
00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,280
So in terms of the park is it now that

1242
00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,520
you have to have you have to like have a

1243
00:55:43,520 --> 00:55:44,880
ad or something? Can you use money

1244
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:46,319
anymore? How's that? How can you use

1245
00:55:46,319 --> 00:55:47,440
cash anymore?

1246
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,359
So use money the kiosk at the kiosk

1247
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:50,960
working. You can actually use credit

1248
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:54,240
card or cash and then or you can use the

1249
00:55:54,240 --> 00:55:57,119
passport app. So you can do either way.

1250
00:55:57,119 --> 00:55:59,920
For a while the kiosks weren't working.

1251
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:07,030
And so use the app or

1252
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,119
we are on it monitoring it to make sure

1253
00:56:09,119 --> 00:56:11,920
that this is not happening. from a

1254
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:13,760
revenue standpoint someone mentioned

1255
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,760
2019 I think if you go back you'll see

1256
00:56:15,760 --> 00:56:17,280
an increase downtown was really

1257
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:18,799
progressively getting more and more

1258
00:56:18,799 --> 00:56:23,760
revenue so in 2020 the world stopped

1259
00:56:23,760 --> 00:56:25,359
back so increase you know we increased

1260
00:56:25,359 --> 00:56:27,599
our revenue lines but we really think

1261
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,599
it's a low estimate because more and

1262
00:56:29,599 --> 00:56:33,200
more people come downtown

1263
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:36,000
and that's an actual in 2021 so that's

1264
00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,240
because we're only increasing it $4,000

1265
00:56:38,240 --> 00:56:40,720
or something less than for 2021

1266
00:56:40,720 --> 00:56:41,520
conservative.

1267
00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:48,150
Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. So, I I agree.

1268
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:52,000
I I just have a comment on the abundant

1269
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:55,839
vacant properties property uh fees. This

1270
00:56:55,839 --> 00:56:57,119
can be a good thing and a bad thing that

1271
00:56:57,119 --> 00:57:01,280
we have less vacant properties or we

1272
00:57:01,280 --> 00:57:02,160
reinforcement.

1273
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:05,839
Yeah. We we uh we actually reduced

1274
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:08,880
abandoned houses by there was almost

1275
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,160
100, right? And uh and right now again

1276
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:16,160
because because that's happening, we're

1277
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:17,599
working with Kona Enforcement now.

1278
00:57:17,599 --> 00:57:20,480
They're going reo redeveloping their

1279
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:22,559
whole task force to go through and you

1280
00:57:22,559 --> 00:57:25,200
know re redo that again. So uh yes,

1281
00:57:25,200 --> 00:57:27,520
we're very happy of the outcome. Of

1282
00:57:27,520 --> 00:57:28,880
course, you see that you know the price

1283
00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:31,760
of homes have uh have increased and so

1284
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:33,440
you know less and less people are

1285
00:57:33,440 --> 00:57:34,720
walking away you know.

1286
00:57:34,720 --> 00:57:36,160
No, I did want to mention it.

1287
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,000
Yeah.

1288
00:57:38,000 --> 00:57:41,040
Any other question on revenue?

1289
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,000
Go ahead.

1290
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,079
Uh, last question on homes in this

1291
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:46,880
period. Uh, since we kind of spoke about

1292
00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:48,640
homes, the sale of homes, the homeless

1293
00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:52,559
program, uh, I see that increasing from

1294
00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,200
2022 to 2023. So, I need to make sure

1295
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,960
that the mayor gets his kudos for that

1296
00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,559
program. Is there anyone can get a

1297
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,799
breakdown of how many houses that

1298
00:58:00,799 --> 00:58:05,359
actually or what that number is? Uh

1299
00:58:05,359 --> 00:58:06,000
the is that

1300
00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:08,640
you call that the projected revenue

1301
00:58:08,640 --> 00:58:08,720
or

1302
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,839
the houses that we have

1303
00:58:11,839 --> 00:58:14,160
2020 2021 2022. Can you get a breakdown

1304
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,079
of what that looked like?

1305
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:17,760
Yeah.

1306
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,200
The the historical one that we projected

1307
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:23,920
one is because we haven't done the

1308
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,599
foreclosures. There's some

1309
00:58:27,599 --> 00:58:30,480
wiggle room still in terms of the actual

1310
00:58:30,480 --> 00:58:33,040
ones we're going to take in, but

1311
00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:35,040
believe that they will be in a better

1312
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:36,880
condition than what we've been doing

1313
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,480
historically and uh

1314
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,480
going to put pressure across the board

1315
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:44,799
because we're going to take in a a

1316
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:47,440
bigger chunk of property. So, it's the

1317
00:58:47,440 --> 00:58:49,520
law department code enforcement be able

1318
00:58:49,520 --> 00:58:53,040
to turn them around, market them, and uh

1319
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:58,079
get them back to, you know, ideally

1320
00:58:58,079 --> 00:58:59,839
homeowners in them, but some of them,

1321
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:02,799
you know, will be commercial or

1322
00:59:02,799 --> 00:59:05,280
rental units, but yeah, we can give you

1323
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:09,359
the historical stuff and then the uh

1324
00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,920
ongoing one. You'll know it, you know,

1325
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,160
as soon as we know it with the

1326
00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,559
foreclosures.

1327
00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:19,359
s on the paper today. Uh there was our

1328
00:59:19,359 --> 00:59:21,119
foreclosure notice in the newspaper

1329
00:59:21,119 --> 00:59:21,520
today.

1330
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:22,240
Yeah.

1331
00:59:22,240 --> 00:59:24,720
Over 400 properties.

1332
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,480
So

1333
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,960
we haven't foreclosed in since the co

1334
00:59:28,960 --> 00:59:32,720
2020. So we're going back to 2018. So

1335
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:36,400
you know, uh sorry to say a lot of the

1336
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:42,309
houses available for sale.

1337
00:59:42,319 --> 00:59:46,390
Any

1338
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:49,280
other question?

1339
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,160
We're good.

1340
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,000
All right,

1341
00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:57,200
the next one will move into council. Who

1342
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:00,240
want to take this

1343
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,559
city so hard?

1344
01:00:02,559 --> 01:00:05,920
City council has not changed.

1345
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:08,720
Who's Who's going to ask for a raise?

1346
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:15,030
That was your time.

1347
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:23,190
All right, let's keep moving.

1348
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:25,599
Um,

1349
01:00:25,599 --> 01:00:27,280
as soon as page, we can do the mayor's

1350
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:28,390
office.

1351
01:00:28,390 --> 01:00:32,870
[Music]

1352
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,440
Page one.

1353
01:00:35,440 --> 01:00:36,960
Was he on the list?

1354
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:37,680
Yes.

1355
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:38,640
Yeah.

1356
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:40,319
Yes.

1357
01:00:40,319 --> 01:00:42,000
Okay, let me see the mayor's office

1358
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:45,280
here. Uh the mayor's office, his budgets

1359
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:48,559
increased by 11,5858

1360
01:00:48,559 --> 01:00:50,799
at 3.23%

1361
01:00:50,799 --> 01:00:53,920
and that's mostly increases mostly due

1362
01:00:53,920 --> 01:01:09,349
raises on his back.

1363
01:01:09,359 --> 01:01:11,040
Go ahead, please.

1364
01:01:11,040 --> 01:01:13,760
Is that the physician innovation and

1365
01:01:13,760 --> 01:01:15,599
performance? Is that the one you had a

1366
01:01:15,599 --> 01:01:16,319
question on?

1367
01:01:16,319 --> 01:01:17,920
Yeah, I just was um wondering about

1368
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:18,880
that.

1369
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:21,280
I have the job description as here. You

1370
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:23,440
can have it and then if anybody else

1371
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:25,359
wanted to see it since you had a

1372
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:27,119
question

1373
01:01:27,119 --> 01:01:29,359
over the

1374
01:01:29,359 --> 01:01:32,079
It is a data analysis. I I wasn't sure.

1375
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,799
So, this is is sort of data analysis.

1376
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:46,150
It's a major component. Yeah.

1377
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:48,319
I also had a question.

1378
01:01:48,319 --> 01:01:48,880
Oh, no.

1379
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:50,960
Okay. Anybody else want to see this? How

1380
01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:53,200
long was the P position vacant before we

1381
01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:54,960
just filled it?

1382
01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,470
Uh, close to a year.

1383
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:05,750
I would say a year. So um

1384
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,359
so I was curious about the salary

1385
01:02:07,359 --> 01:02:09,920
increase since there was no one there

1386
01:02:09,920 --> 01:02:13,040
right so uh when

1387
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,680
last she left at 50 something

1388
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:19,040
uh the new person started position at 60

1389
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:22,640
uh and manager position with raises are

1390
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:26,240
4% went up to 62 400

1391
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:27,680
so in the nine months there was an

1392
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:29,680
increase you hired new personality

1393
01:02:29,680 --> 01:02:32,880
we hired 60,000 correct

1394
01:02:32,880 --> 01:02:35,680
And like similar question for the um

1395
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:37,599
administrative assistant to the mayor is

1396
01:02:37,599 --> 01:02:39,680
or also a vacant position right now.

1397
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:41,119
is correct.

1398
01:02:41,119 --> 01:02:42,799
So there's also an increase. So we're

1399
01:02:42,799 --> 01:02:43,920
anticipating hiring.

1400
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:45,839
Yeah. Because when we when we put the

1401
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:47,680
budget together, she was not do we

1402
01:02:47,680 --> 01:02:48,400
anticipate her?

1403
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:49,040
Oh,

1404
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:51,280
we anticipate her meeting.

1405
01:02:51,280 --> 01:02:53,599
So we anticipate hiring at this at this

1406
01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:54,160
rate then?

1407
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:56,000
Probably at

1408
01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:59,440
whatever rate the mayor wants.

1409
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:07,190
Okay.

1410
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:09,040
Just turn to the next page and just the

1411
01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:14,950
top there.

1412
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:28,789
Next page. Page two.

1413
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:30,079
Mayor, you just want to give us a brief

1414
01:03:30,079 --> 01:03:34,230
on this $25,000

1415
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:37,520
and the uh council had put that in there

1416
01:03:37,520 --> 01:03:40,880
last year to give me some flexibility

1417
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,799
for

1418
01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:44,880
hiring people because some of the pay

1419
01:03:44,880 --> 01:03:46,480
scales

1420
01:03:46,480 --> 01:03:49,119
uh were on the low side.

1421
01:03:49,119 --> 01:03:53,760
uh I've approached it with a position is

1422
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:55,760
vacant

1423
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:57,359
uh after the first of the year and I

1424
01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:00,960
fill it and I have to

1425
01:04:00,960 --> 01:04:03,359
offer more money than what is there. I

1426
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:05,839
can still do it within the existing line

1427
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:07,920
item because we built up a little bit of

1428
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:10,400
surplus. I don't think we used any of

1429
01:04:10,400 --> 01:04:12,319
that this year other than

1430
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:15,680
we tried to but they wanted

1431
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:19,280
uh we also was uh thought we charged a

1432
01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:21,200
little bit for advertising out of that

1433
01:04:21,200 --> 01:04:24,400
for LinkedIn or one of the uh

1434
01:04:24,400 --> 01:04:25,760
that might still be in the pipe. It

1435
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:28,799
might be some non charge out of that but

1436
01:04:28,799 --> 01:04:30,640
I'm looking to the council's

1437
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:32,799
consideration to leave that in place for

1438
01:04:32,799 --> 01:04:34,960
one more year so we can stabilize the

1439
01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:39,670
workforce and uh

1440
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:41,599
be able to hire the position across the

1441
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:43,039
board.

1442
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:45,039
No, I just wanted you to mention it for

1443
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:47,119
the new council members to get an

1444
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:48,960
understanding of why we put that in last

1445
01:04:48,960 --> 01:04:52,079
year to give you that push.

1446
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:53,680
Any question? Go ahead, please.

1447
01:04:53,680 --> 01:04:55,359
So, an example of how you would use that

1448
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:59,520
line u includes like just going higher

1449
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:01,920
on the face. Is there any other

1450
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:05,760
that is what it's there for. But what

1451
01:05:05,760 --> 01:05:09,920
looked at is somebody's at uh salaries

1452
01:05:09,920 --> 01:05:13,349
at $52,000.

1453
01:05:13,359 --> 01:05:16,640
The position is open for the first three

1454
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:19,280
weeks of January.

1455
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:23,680
I could offer 55,000 and still be within

1456
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,400
that budget so that I would not have to

1457
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:30,640
come back to this line. And again, I try

1458
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:33,359
and be as conservative as I can with uh

1459
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:37,599
hiring and spending money.

1460
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,440
Sometimes that helps me, but sometimes

1461
01:05:39,440 --> 01:05:44,069
it doesn't build much morale.

1462
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:46,079
Thank you.

1463
01:05:46,079 --> 01:05:48,160
So, I would think now um with the labor

1464
01:05:48,160 --> 01:05:50,960
market the way it is that, you know, I

1465
01:05:50,960 --> 01:05:52,400
support leaving that there because it

1466
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:54,319
seems like we're going to need to be be

1467
01:05:54,319 --> 01:05:56,319
a little more competitive than what we

1468
01:05:56,319 --> 01:05:59,760
been able to be. Um, so could you use

1469
01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:03,440
that as also like um like a I don't know

1470
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:05,200
I guess not right term for that but

1471
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:08,319
maybe like a a bonus for people signing

1472
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:12,000
on to or accepting a position or I I had

1473
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,799
thought about that but if not had the

1474
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:18,160
scenario come in so that we could

1475
01:06:18,160 --> 01:06:21,359
possibly do that and again the council

1476
01:06:21,359 --> 01:06:25,119
if you have people who have any interest

1477
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:28,720
send them my way.

1478
01:06:28,720 --> 01:06:32,480
And the other thing with still uh

1479
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,200
employees within the city of Skenctity,

1480
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:37,039
there are

1481
01:06:37,039 --> 01:06:39,039
what I would call comparable jobs out

1482
01:06:39,039 --> 01:06:41,520
the market where the salary may be

1483
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:44,720
higher, but the total benefit package

1484
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:48,240
for the city is actually as good or

1485
01:06:48,240 --> 01:06:50,480
better when you factor in retirement,

1486
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:52,480
the health care,

1487
01:06:52,480 --> 01:06:56,319
other uh benefits that are included in

1488
01:06:56,319 --> 01:06:59,920
that. And sometimes, you know,

1489
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:02,799
people uh want the immediate cash in the

1490
01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:05,440
paycheck and don't look at the overall

1491
01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:08,000
package. So that's part of the just

1492
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:11,280
selling public employment to uh

1493
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:13,200
individuals who are looking for

1494
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,440
long-term people want to make it a

1495
01:07:15,440 --> 01:07:19,910
career working for the city.

1496
01:07:19,920 --> 01:07:21,440
Anthony has a couple years under his

1497
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,599
belt.

1498
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:26,880
I I think I'm the the oldest guy here. I

1499
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,599
mean longevity wise in the city and the

1500
01:07:29,599 --> 01:07:32,319
most time

1501
01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:34,960
he's shaking his head duly noted that

1502
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:36,960
he's shaking his head when I started be

1503
01:07:36,960 --> 01:07:39,280
here for five years

1504
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:44,799
you start 70 84 excuse me 89

1505
01:07:44,799 --> 01:07:47,680
there you go wow

1506
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:50,240
any other question on the section we did

1507
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,720
all right let's um move on to the

1508
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:58,559
clerk's department and that is page Six.

1509
01:07:58,559 --> 01:08:02,000
Uh, city clerk, the city city clerk her

1510
01:08:02,000 --> 01:08:05,599
total bud is only up 11,110.

1511
01:08:05,599 --> 01:08:09,760
Uh, 4.3% uh 4.36%

1512
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,240
increase from last year and that again

1513
01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:16,239
is mostly to uh you know increase

1514
01:08:16,239 --> 01:08:21,910
salaries because contracts.

1515
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:25,440
M you want to do those with you?

1516
01:08:25,440 --> 01:08:27,839
Since you're here, not putting you in

1517
01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:29,759
the spot.

1518
01:08:29,759 --> 01:08:31,920
Um, what would you what would you like

1519
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,679
to

1520
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,000
Well, I see there's a deputy register

1521
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:42,630
that I asked for. It's not in there.

1522
01:08:42,640 --> 01:08:44,400
Deputy registar position that's in

1523
01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:45,759
there.

1524
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:49,199
Okay. I wanted to have that built. So, I

1525
01:08:49,199 --> 01:08:51,679
have another person in there that's

1526
01:08:51,679 --> 01:08:57,430
responsible for all the vital records.

1527
01:08:57,440 --> 01:08:59,279
the uh position the difference between

1528
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:03,440
the IPS3 and the uh position for deputy

1529
01:09:03,440 --> 01:09:07,679
registar or the civil service

1530
01:09:07,679 --> 01:09:17,189
uh classification are different

1531
01:09:17,199 --> 01:09:18,000
position.

1532
01:09:18,000 --> 01:09:20,880
Yes.

1533
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:22,880
So, so can you dive a little can you

1534
01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,159
dive a little deeper and give us a

1535
01:09:24,159 --> 01:09:25,920
little bit like a summary what's

1536
01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,560
happening in your department in terms of

1537
01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:30,480
you know like what you do on a daily

1538
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:32,799
basis not you but your department

1539
01:09:32,799 --> 01:09:35,040
it seems that services have increased

1540
01:09:35,040 --> 01:09:39,759
because other municipalities are now um

1541
01:09:39,759 --> 01:09:43,120
closing to leaving

1542
01:09:43,120 --> 01:09:45,120
services only for their municipalities.

1543
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:48,400
So, um, they're only serving the

1544
01:09:48,400 --> 01:09:51,199
residents in whatever city, town, or

1545
01:09:51,199 --> 01:09:53,679
village that they're doing where we are

1546
01:09:53,679 --> 01:09:57,120
open to serving everyone in the state

1547
01:09:57,120 --> 01:10:00,880
regardless of um, you know, specifically

1548
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:04,159
marriage records. So, we're getting an

1549
01:10:04,159 --> 01:10:06,400
increase with those. Everyone's coming

1550
01:10:06,400 --> 01:10:09,600
in and they take a while to process, you

1551
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:12,159
know, so there's more time, more people

1552
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:13,520
coming in. We have people coming in and

1553
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:15,040
sitting and waiting.

1554
01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:16,960
Because even from the city coming up

1555
01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:23,510
here to get something done.

1556
01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:24,480
Why don't we do that?

1557
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:27,040
I was going to ask why why why don't we

1558
01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:31,679
state allows for um certificates to be

1559
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:33,600
done anywhere in the state and then used

1560
01:10:33,600 --> 01:10:35,760
anywhere in the state. But certain

1561
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:38,080
municipalities now because of COVID have

1562
01:10:38,080 --> 01:10:41,040
limited to just their residents.

1563
01:10:41,040 --> 01:10:42,800
Like a marriage certificate for example.

1564
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,400
I thought that you had to have the

1565
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:47,120
marriage certificate in the jurisdiction

1566
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:48,640
in which you were going to get married.

1567
01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:49,199
Correct.

1568
01:10:49,199 --> 01:10:50,960
Anywhere in the state anywhere in the

1569
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:51,600
state. Yes.

1570
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,440
And it but is that a point of revenue

1571
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:54,239
for us or

1572
01:10:54,239 --> 01:10:55,520
Yes, it is. Yeah.

1573
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:57,040
So, so

1574
01:10:57,040 --> 01:10:58,480
that's why I haven't limited it.

1575
01:10:58,480 --> 01:11:00,320
Yeah. So, the thing is but you need

1576
01:11:00,320 --> 01:11:02,239
someone to support that process and we

1577
01:11:02,239 --> 01:11:03,600
do it a little more efficiently.

1578
01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,430
Yeah.

1579
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:09,920
But but right now the IPS3 is doing

1580
01:11:09,920 --> 01:11:10,880
that.

1581
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:12,400
She is. So that isn't the job

1582
01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:15,280
description under the civil service.

1583
01:11:15,280 --> 01:11:19,440
Could we petition to change the job the job title slashposition

1584
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,360
responsibilities through cse you know

1585
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,239
through the I know I used to have to do

1586
01:11:24,239 --> 01:11:25,440
that all the time at the community

1587
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:25,760
college.

1588
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:27,760
We could we could do that but the the

1589
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:30,400
issue is that we still need the body

1590
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:33,520
because we are getting increase in in

1591
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:39,110
requests and customers coming in.

1592
01:11:39,120 --> 01:11:39,920
Yeah.

1593
01:11:39,920 --> 01:11:42,719
Oh, please.

1594
01:11:42,719 --> 01:11:46,080
The actual revenues are down though.

1595
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:48,239
So,

1596
01:11:48,239 --> 01:11:50,159
kind of doesn't

1597
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:54,640
add up, I guess, cuz in 2019 there was

1598
01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:56,960
almost 10,000.

1599
01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,679
This year we're at 6,000. Last year

1600
01:11:59,679 --> 01:12:06,229
8,500

1601
01:12:06,239 --> 01:12:09,600
for marriage licenses.

1602
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:14,709
So that's

1603
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:17,440
2022 though isn't a full year. That's up

1604
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:20,719
until I think August

1605
01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:22,800
September.

1606
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:24,640
You got to remember too many ain't going

1607
01:12:24,640 --> 01:12:26,400
to go out in that quarter. It's still

1608
01:12:26,400 --> 01:12:27,600
only 8,000.

1609
01:12:27,600 --> 01:12:30,320
You also have to add in the 4491 from

1610
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:32,320
marriage. It says marriage by mayor, but

1611
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:34,400
that's not really what that is. That is

1612
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:37,360
actually marriage certificates.

1613
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:40,159
That's where the Bureau of Social put

1614
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,320
in. So for marriage license and

1615
01:12:42,320 --> 01:12:47,750
certificates

1616
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:57,830
10,400

1617
01:12:57,840 --> 01:12:59,760
are your staff. You have Are you fully

1618
01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:08,630
sty?

1619
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:16,070
What would be for

1620
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,000
30?

1621
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:21,840
No, it's be up to the 47570.

1622
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:26,159
That 47570 increase the 5,000.

1623
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:31,910
So would you take the 5,000 42570

1624
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,120
if it's just a better register? I mean

1625
01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:36,960
the IPS3

1626
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:38,320
yeah it would be

1627
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:41,920
yeah so that so that

1628
01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:44,800
register 42

1629
01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:45,600
570

1630
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:47,679
so the IPS would be making less

1631
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:50,719
yeah IPS would be 42570 then register

1632
01:13:50,719 --> 01:13:53,520
making 42570 they'd be the same grades

1633
01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:55,679
22

1634
01:13:55,679 --> 01:13:57,520
I'm not sure what the grades are

1635
01:13:57,520 --> 01:14:01,440
I'll look it up I'll let you know

1636
01:14:01,440 --> 01:14:06,000
and the uh marriage to the

1637
01:14:06,000 --> 01:14:08,480
budget for the mayor's office for

1638
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:12,560
revenue for marriages that I perform

1639
01:14:12,560 --> 01:14:14,800
under

1640
01:14:14,800 --> 01:14:17,120
some situ I'm entitled to keep that

1641
01:14:17,120 --> 01:14:20,560
money. I've never done that have uh just

1642
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:23,040
put it back as a revenue line item in

1643
01:14:23,040 --> 01:14:26,320
the city. There are other individuals

1644
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:28,560
who perform marriages within this

1645
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:34,960
building that uh you know it's an attractive setting for people

1646
01:14:34,960 --> 01:14:37,040
when you look at have to go out and rent

1647
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,199
a hall or someplace else. People come

1648
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:42,239
here and it might be the council could

1649
01:14:42,239 --> 01:14:48,080
uh just enact a fee for the building

1650
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:52,880
where I try to put it's now $75 is the

1651
01:14:52,880 --> 01:14:56,719
fees set by the state to perform a uh

1652
01:14:56,719 --> 01:14:58,719
marriage

1653
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:02,000
and just change that to a

1654
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:05,280
building fee or

1655
01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:08,080
apartment fee. Again, it's still a very

1656
01:15:08,080 --> 01:15:11,120
good deal. It's a nominal thing and we

1657
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:16,000
accommodate uh individuals coming in to

1658
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,360
right move around uh do the uh

1659
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:21,440
photographs and make it a good

1660
01:15:21,440 --> 01:15:27,350
experience for

1661
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:32,630
we have a fee for is $4,500.

1662
01:15:32,640 --> 01:15:34,159
Is this going to cover that training

1663
01:15:34,159 --> 01:15:36,239
that we approved um a week ago, two

1664
01:15:36,239 --> 01:15:37,920
weeks ago?

1665
01:15:37,920 --> 01:15:38,960
When where are you

1666
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,920
the 4,500 city the next page

1667
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:45,199
we use that for

1668
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:45,840
license

1669
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:47,199
right

1670
01:15:47,199 --> 01:15:49,199
is that is that going to cover that that

1671
01:15:49,199 --> 01:15:52,000
um what is this

1672
01:15:52,000 --> 01:15:52,640
training

1673
01:15:52,640 --> 01:15:55,600
no we're thinking of using that through

1674
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:58,640
the city city council's fees for

1675
01:15:58,640 --> 01:15:59,840
services

1676
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:01,679
but actually we're actually trying to

1677
01:16:01,679 --> 01:16:02,239
get it

1678
01:16:02,239 --> 01:16:05,040
yeah we're trying to get

1679
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:08,080
just so you know

1680
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,199
Good luck.

1681
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,239
Oh, no. No. We can find people that

1682
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:13,679
Okay. No, I I just want to make sure

1683
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:14,719
that we have coverage.

1684
01:16:14,719 --> 01:16:20,229
No, this 4500 is for license and

1685
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:22,880
we do have we have fees for service.

1686
01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:23,760
Yes, we do.

1687
01:16:23,760 --> 01:16:24,640
Oh, what's that?

1688
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:26,480
Sure. It's a couple.

1689
01:16:26,480 --> 01:16:28,080
Any other question regarding this

1690
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:30,800
department?

1691
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,520
Okay.

1692
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:40,149
All right.

1693
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:43,560
So we'll move to the fire.

1694
01:16:43,560 --> 01:17:04,390
[Music]

1695
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:07,280
Oh, okay.

1696
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:09,520
Anthony, you want to give us a brief and

1697
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,320
then I ask chief to give us

1698
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:13,920
administration?

1699
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:16,640
I actually uh the fire administration is

1700
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:19,679
up 387,725

1701
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:23,040
hours, which is only a 3.11%

1702
01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:26,480
increase. Again, this is mostly almost

1703
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,040
100% due to salary increases and

1704
01:17:29,040 --> 01:17:42,350
longevity increases.

1705
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:55,590
[Music]

1706
01:17:55,600 --> 01:17:57,920
So like Anthony said that the increases

1707
01:17:57,920 --> 01:18:01,920
are are in salaries. Uh there are some

1708
01:18:01,920 --> 01:18:04,880
lines that have gone up.

1709
01:18:04,880 --> 01:18:07,120
Uh and

1710
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:10,239
some of them are oneoffs.

1711
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:12,400
Uh some items that we have to purchase

1712
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,880
this year or 2023.

1713
01:18:14,880 --> 01:18:18,080
Uh for instance are a

1714
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:21,920
ballistic test have have uh come to the

1715
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:24,159
end of their life. That's a $50,000

1716
01:18:24,159 --> 01:18:29,440
increase or $50,000 bill that we'll be looking at. Uh we're looking at

1717
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:33,120
a new reporting system and uh it's quite

1718
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:36,480
expensive. We we're not settled in.

1719
01:18:36,480 --> 01:18:38,000
We're going to be purchasing this one.

1720
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,239
We're still doing our research, but we

1721
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:43,600
budgeted for it and it's a $25,000 just

1722
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:48,880
a setup cost. And then um it is going to

1723
01:18:48,880 --> 01:18:50,239
be a little more expensive than the

1724
01:18:50,239 --> 01:18:52,480
reporting system we have. Some of our

1725
01:18:52,480 --> 01:18:55,840
other cost increases are due to um

1726
01:18:55,840 --> 01:19:00,560
inflation and supplies and whatnot being

1727
01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:02,719
costing more. For instance, some of our

1728
01:19:02,719 --> 01:19:05,920
medical supplies are up 30%.

1729
01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:09,920
Um, some of that is due to some changes

1730
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:11,520
that have been made in the medical

1731
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:14,640
field. Typically, years ago, if you went

1732
01:19:14,640 --> 01:19:18,400
to a cardiac arrest, you're um you would

1733
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:20,239
get there, you assess the patient, they

1734
01:19:20,239 --> 01:19:21,760
were in cardiac arrest, you would treat

1735
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:23,679
them, you would package them, and you

1736
01:19:23,679 --> 01:19:25,920
get them to the hospital. That has

1737
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:28,080
changed now. Now, you would treat them

1738
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,960
at at their home. You get to a certain

1739
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,480
point where you feel you've done

1740
01:19:32,480 --> 01:19:34,320
everything possible

1741
01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:35,679
and you would call a doc and you would

1742
01:19:35,679 --> 01:19:37,040
get a secure order and you would leave

1743
01:19:37,040 --> 01:19:40,320
the patient there. And what that

1744
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:42,960
translates financially is all those

1745
01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:45,520
supplies that are used on that on that

1746
01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,000
call, which is quite expensive, um

1747
01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:50,000
you're not reimbured. If you brought

1748
01:19:50,000 --> 01:19:53,120
them to the hospital, you could

1749
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:56,400
restock your your supplies there. If you

1750
01:19:56,400 --> 01:19:58,800
leave them at home, you can't do that.

1751
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:02,080
And for instance, just one item that you

1752
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:04,560
might use is a needle, a special needle.

1753
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:07,120
It's called an interosius needle. Um,

1754
01:20:07,120 --> 01:20:09,120
which is the go-to in cardiac arrest

1755
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,080
because it's quick and it's almost

1756
01:20:12,080 --> 01:20:14,719
foolproof. It's very expensive. Each one

1757
01:20:14,719 --> 01:20:17,679
of those needles about $120

1758
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:19,199
and you're not getting reimburseed for

1759
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:21,600
that. So, a cardiac arrest could cost

1760
01:20:21,600 --> 01:20:24,400
you $400 or $500 that you're not getting

1761
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,000
reimbured. And we do I don't know the

1762
01:20:28,000 --> 01:20:32,950
exact number 120.

1763
01:20:32,960 --> 01:20:34,880
Um

1764
01:20:34,880 --> 01:20:37,600
another one off is some equipment that

1765
01:20:37,600 --> 01:20:40,800
we need. Our water rescue suits have to

1766
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,239
be um replenished to come to the end of

1767
01:20:44,239 --> 01:20:46,880
their life and that's a 13,000

1768
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:49,440
$13,000

1769
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:52,480
um cost to the ship.

1770
01:20:52,480 --> 01:20:55,760
Another item that's a oneoff is uh we're

1771
01:20:55,760 --> 01:20:59,360
establishing a

1772
01:20:59,360 --> 01:21:01,679
team. It's technical emergency medical

1773
01:21:01,679 --> 01:21:04,400
services. U that's going to be will be

1774
01:21:04,400 --> 01:21:07,199
working with the police. Uh providing a

1775
01:21:07,199 --> 01:21:11,040
paramedic when they go out on their um

1776
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,560
SWAT

1777
01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:14,880
missions

1778
01:21:14,880 --> 01:21:16,960
who are splitting the cost with with the

1779
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,600
police. there's an initial startup that

1780
01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:23,600
we need some equipment. Uh and then in

1781
01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,360
future years there'll be about half of

1782
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,840
that cost for us. So

1783
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:31,760
that's an overall some of those bigger

1784
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:35,430
items.

1785
01:21:35,440 --> 01:21:39,120
Okay. So we can start from 23 and just

1786
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,280
go through and if we have questions

1787
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:42,880
we'll just go back.

1788
01:21:42,880 --> 01:21:50,790
Yeah. Miss Williams, you had some.

1789
01:21:50,800 --> 01:21:52,480
So to your immediate comment about the

1790
01:21:52,480 --> 01:21:54,000
cost of the needles and thank you for

1791
01:21:54,000 --> 01:21:56,639
providing that an overview. Is there any

1792
01:21:56,639 --> 01:21:58,320
opportunity for cost sharing with our

1793
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:00,159
local hospital? I imagine that might

1794
01:22:00,159 --> 01:22:01,280
have come up.

1795
01:22:01,280 --> 01:22:03,280
No, not really.

1796
01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:06,320
They're looking to cut their cost. We've

1797
01:22:06,320 --> 01:22:08,320
had a great hardcore with Ellis and

1798
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,440
other facilities where when the patient

1799
01:22:11,440 --> 01:22:13,840
begins transported and transferred they

1800
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,760
would reimburse

1801
01:22:15,760 --> 01:22:18,800
I shouldn't say reimburse but restock at

1802
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,400
100%.

1803
01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:23,440
And you know now as the delivery of

1804
01:22:23,440 --> 01:22:25,840
services is changing we're going to bear

1805
01:22:25,840 --> 01:22:30,310
some of that cost.

1806
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:32,639
Any

1807
01:22:32,639 --> 01:22:34,000
additional question on the fire

1808
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:36,480
administration on page 23?

1809
01:22:36,480 --> 01:22:38,560
I have one question for the finance

1810
01:22:38,560 --> 01:22:41,199
commissioner and the chief it said that

1811
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:44,400
all staff can get a 4% pay raise and we

1812
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,709
stiff the public safety commission.

1813
01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:59,040
Wow, didn't realize that seller is in two different lines,

1814
01:22:59,040 --> 01:22:59,440
right?

1815
01:22:59,440 --> 01:23:01,040
Yeah.

1816
01:23:01,040 --> 01:23:04,159
in the police.

1817
01:23:04,159 --> 01:23:05,679
I I think because I thought he was part

1818
01:23:05,679 --> 01:23:08,159
time, right? Like he did not qualify for

1819
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:11,669
the race.

1820
01:23:11,679 --> 01:23:17,750
I was incorrect.

1821
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:20,780
Someone have a pen.

1822
01:23:20,780 --> 01:23:26,629
[Music]

1823
01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:29,840
All right, let's move on to um One quick

1824
01:23:29,840 --> 01:23:30,400
question.

1825
01:23:30,400 --> 01:23:30,800
Go ahead.

1826
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,440
Just general. So my first question is

1827
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:35,120
that change of delivery of service

1828
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:37,840
that's that is probably due to like just

1829
01:23:37,840 --> 01:23:41,120
a you know safety of patients. It's just

1830
01:23:41,120 --> 01:23:44,400
seem to be take to treat them at home is

1831
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:48,159
a is a better way to treat them. Is that

1832
01:23:48,159 --> 01:23:50,080
why that was I'm just curious as

1833
01:23:50,080 --> 01:23:54,080
why that's changed by transport. Um,

1834
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:57,920
our paramedics provide the service equal

1835
01:23:57,920 --> 01:23:59,600
to what they would in the emergency

1836
01:23:59,600 --> 01:24:00,320
room.

1837
01:24:00,320 --> 01:24:02,639
And in a cardiac arrest, it's all about

1838
01:24:02,639 --> 01:24:03,520
timing.

1839
01:24:03,520 --> 01:24:05,679
And you reach a point where you have

1840
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:08,320
administered the medications that if

1841
01:24:08,320 --> 01:24:09,280
they're going to work, they're going to

1842
01:24:09,280 --> 01:24:12,960
work. And you have done your skills

1843
01:24:12,960 --> 01:24:14,719
with, you know, if you have to shock the

1844
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:16,880
patient out of a certain rhythm or not.

1845
01:24:16,880 --> 01:24:18,400
And and you go through that and that

1846
01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:22,159
could take 15, 20 minutes, 25 minutes.

1847
01:24:22,159 --> 01:24:24,239
and you'll get to a point where it's not

1848
01:24:24,239 --> 01:24:26,880
working and it's not going to work.

1849
01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:31,199
So then we'll call medical support and

1850
01:24:31,199 --> 01:24:33,760
uh explain what we have and they make a

1851
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:36,320
decision and and they take in all kinds

1852
01:24:36,320 --> 01:24:41,600
of uh um information like what we what

1853
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:44,000
we think caused the cardiac arrest, a

1854
01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,800
trauma arrest versus someone in advance

1855
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,040
age, you know, and those decisions are

1856
01:24:49,040 --> 01:24:52,950
yeah, you're not going to transport

1857
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:54,000
was a tough decision.

1858
01:24:54,000 --> 01:24:56,000
Yes, sounds like

1859
01:24:56,000 --> 01:24:59,360
and some of that whole thing is uh some

1860
01:24:59,360 --> 01:25:01,679
of the services that fire department

1861
01:25:01,679 --> 01:25:04,000
provides the way the insurance

1862
01:25:04,000 --> 01:25:06,159
reimbursement is structured today, we

1863
01:25:06,159 --> 01:25:10,480
don't qualify for reimbursement. And so

1864
01:25:10,480 --> 01:25:12,560
it's part of the dialogue that we're

1865
01:25:12,560 --> 01:25:15,199
having with

1866
01:25:15,199 --> 01:25:19,040
local insurance providers with uh both

1867
01:25:19,040 --> 01:25:21,440
Medicare and Medicaid

1868
01:25:21,440 --> 01:25:25,760
uh formulas and how they uh allow for

1869
01:25:25,760 --> 01:25:28,560
reimbursement so that not only

1870
01:25:28,560 --> 01:25:31,920
connectity but other similar communities

1871
01:25:31,920 --> 01:25:36,480
would uh be able to be reimbursed for

1872
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:38,800
their actual services where we're

1873
01:25:38,800 --> 01:25:42,239
looking How do we provide uh better and

1874
01:25:42,239 --> 01:25:45,679
more appropriate care? A lot of it is to

1875
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:48,159
not transport everybody to the emergency

1876
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:48,960
room.

1877
01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:53,120
Uh do the evaluation to get them to uh

1878
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:54,880
an urgent care, get them to their

1879
01:25:54,880 --> 01:25:57,679
private physician, maybe to orthopedic.

1880
01:25:57,679 --> 01:26:00,080
You have something example of twisted

1881
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:01,600
ankle. You don't know if it's broken or

1882
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:03,840
just the sprain. They're going to have

1883
01:26:03,840 --> 01:26:07,760
to go orthopedic. And

1884
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:09,600
how do you get them there as opposed to

1885
01:26:09,600 --> 01:26:13,199
going to the emergency room to

1886
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:15,760
Brooklyn New York?

1887
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:17,600
I just call

1888
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:20,880
sure to plan that.

1889
01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:23,120
But again, it's that appropriate level

1890
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:26,960
of care which gives people uh again

1891
01:26:26,960 --> 01:26:29,920
quicker, better results. So they're not

1892
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:31,600
sitting for a long period of time in the

1893
01:26:31,600 --> 01:26:35,360
emergency room uh frustrated in not

1894
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:39,679
being treated and it's how do you again

1895
01:26:39,679 --> 01:26:42,639
get the revenue streams to match up the

1896
01:26:42,639 --> 01:26:45,600
delivery of services.

1897
01:26:45,600 --> 01:26:48,000
My other question was um you know I know

1898
01:26:48,000 --> 01:26:50,480
like after you know when we're

1899
01:26:50,480 --> 01:26:51,840
purchasing new equipment or something

1900
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,639
for the city you know old equipment um

1901
01:26:54,639 --> 01:26:56,639
you know goes to auction or you know how

1902
01:26:56,639 --> 01:27:03,360
we do that. I was wondering is that in for your equipment like the vendors

1903
01:27:03,360 --> 01:27:05,040
or whoever you work with is there like

1904
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,600
um guess I'm not exactly finding the

1905
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:11,120
right word for it but like uh dated

1906
01:27:11,120 --> 01:27:13,120
equipment is there any value in that

1907
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:16,239
equipment once you you know have to

1908
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:17,679
purchase new equipment. So, is it like

1909
01:27:17,679 --> 01:27:18,719
something like maybe a vendor where

1910
01:27:18,719 --> 01:27:21,120
you're like, "Okay, we're buying our new

1911
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:23,679
uh vest or something, but you know, we

1912
01:27:23,679 --> 01:27:25,920
have these hundred vests that, you know,

1913
01:27:25,920 --> 01:27:27,360
there's still a value in that raw

1914
01:27:27,360 --> 01:27:28,960
material that would be attractive to

1915
01:27:28,960 --> 01:27:30,400
that vendor." I'm just wondering.

1916
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,880
Yeah. When it all comes down to safety,

1917
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,040
somebody puts a expiration date on

1918
01:27:37,040 --> 01:27:38,719
something, called it the best, it's a

1919
01:27:38,719 --> 01:27:40,239
fiveyear,

1920
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:42,800
uh, it's going to be very hard to sell

1921
01:27:42,800 --> 01:27:45,360
that anyone or even for us to keep it

1922
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:47,360
because, god forbid,

1923
01:27:47,360 --> 01:27:48,400
It's yours,

1924
01:27:48,400 --> 01:27:48,719
right?

1925
01:27:48,719 --> 01:27:50,000
And something bad happens, we're going

1926
01:27:50,000 --> 01:27:52,159
to say, "We told you right here, five

1927
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:54,480
year life and you decided to keep it six

1928
01:27:54,480 --> 01:27:55,120
years, right?

1929
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:58,719
Or sell it to that person and so there

1930
01:27:58,719 --> 01:28:00,639
is really no value."

1931
01:28:00,639 --> 01:28:04,880
Yes. No. Right. I I imagine. So, you know, like that's

1932
01:28:04,880 --> 01:28:06,159
pretty important stuff. We need that to

1933
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:08,320
work, right? I was thinking like for

1934
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:10,719
vendors that we use who you know produce

1935
01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:12,560
this thing is there any I'm just

1936
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:14,239
wondering is there any like you know

1937
01:28:14,239 --> 01:28:17,760
like value with them to give them

1938
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:19,040
old things that they re you know

1939
01:28:19,040 --> 01:28:20,560
refurbish things or whatever I just

1940
01:28:20,560 --> 01:28:22,159
wonder is there any way to recycle those

1941
01:28:22,159 --> 01:28:24,960
in a way that can develop some revenue

1942
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,840
for the city

1943
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,239
the things that have value we do like

1944
01:28:30,239 --> 01:28:31,600
vehicles

1945
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:32,880
[Music]

1946
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,880
those types of things but when you start

1947
01:28:34,880 --> 01:28:37,679
talking um perishables like hose and

1948
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:41,520
whatnot. We we test our hose every year

1949
01:28:41,520 --> 01:28:43,600
and if it passes we keep it. If it

1950
01:28:43,600 --> 01:28:45,760
doesn't then you got to get rid of

1951
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:46,639
things like that.

1952
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:47,120
Yeah.

1953
01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:50,719
So all safety related things once they

1954
01:28:50,719 --> 01:28:54,400
reach their lifespan they're done

1955
01:28:54,400 --> 01:28:56,480
like that too fire both of them they

1956
01:28:56,480 --> 01:28:58,480
have it quit or whatever they they use

1957
01:28:58,480 --> 01:29:01,679
it right to the end there just no life

1958
01:29:01,679 --> 01:29:03,120
anything they have they usually use it

1959
01:29:03,120 --> 01:29:06,320
until there's no life. Yeah, I think I

1960
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:07,840
was thinking like if I'm a vendor and I

1961
01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:09,440
use these materials to produce the

1962
01:29:09,440 --> 01:29:12,320
stuff, maybe some of that material could

1963
01:29:12,320 --> 01:29:13,679
be repurposed. So maybe as a vendor

1964
01:29:13,679 --> 01:29:15,199
there could be some value to me, maybe a

1965
01:29:15,199 --> 01:29:16,800
credit or something like that.

1966
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:18,159
Sometimes that happens. Yeah.

1967
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:20,400
You know, with our monitors sometimes

1968
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:21,840
uh at the end of their life there is

1969
01:29:21,840 --> 01:29:23,920
some turn it in.

1970
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:29,110
Right. Yeah. That's always

1971
01:29:29,120 --> 01:29:30,159
go ahead please.

1972
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:32,159
So I I do have a question under police

1973
01:29:32,159 --> 01:29:34,560
administration. Uh so there's a line

1974
01:29:34,560 --> 01:29:37,360
item where it's the assistant fire chief

1975
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,920
at 0 75 and then the deputy chief

1976
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:44,390
administration at 0.25

1977
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:46,639
so that comes

1978
01:29:46,639 --> 01:29:47,440
because

1979
01:29:47,440 --> 01:29:49,120
I said

1980
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:55,510
chief decided that to abandon me.

1981
01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:56,880
So we're going way back on this

1982
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:58,560
expedition.

1983
01:29:58,560 --> 01:30:01,440
I'm not over it yet.

1984
01:30:01,440 --> 01:30:05,440
Uh so when he retired and I became the

1985
01:30:05,440 --> 01:30:06,639
fire chief,

1986
01:30:06,639 --> 01:30:08,159
we had an opening for an assistant

1987
01:30:08,159 --> 01:30:11,280
chief, but we didn't have a bag with a

1988
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:15,199
uh a list from civil service.

1989
01:30:15,199 --> 01:30:17,040
So it was decid Well, we had the list,

1990
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:18,960
but we

1991
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:22,000
list so it was decided that we were

1992
01:30:22,000 --> 01:30:25,440
going to offer another test. Um, and

1993
01:30:25,440 --> 01:30:29,679
when that test is given and we have a a

1994
01:30:29,679 --> 01:30:32,400
list to look at, we would appoint a new

1995
01:30:32,400 --> 01:30:34,400
assistant chief.

1996
01:30:34,400 --> 01:30:37,360
But in the meantime, we came to council

1997
01:30:37,360 --> 01:30:39,679
and we asked for a seventh deputy chief

1998
01:30:39,679 --> 01:30:43,840
to try to pick up some of that workload.

1999
01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:46,480
So, we're anticipating in the first

2000
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:49,679
quarter of next year to be able to look

2001
01:30:49,679 --> 01:30:53,440
at a list to appoint an assistant chief,

2002
01:30:53,440 --> 01:30:55,360
but until then, we're using that seventh

2003
01:30:55,360 --> 01:30:58,400
deputy chief. So,

2004
01:30:58,400 --> 01:31:00,080
we're going to have that seventh deputy

2005
01:31:00,080 --> 01:31:02,800
chief for the first quarter is what our

2006
01:31:02,800 --> 01:31:04,480
what it looks like.

2007
01:31:04,480 --> 01:31:06,320
And when we appoint another assistant

2008
01:31:06,320 --> 01:31:08,639
chief, that seventh deputy chief goes

2009
01:31:08,639 --> 01:31:11,360
away. So, that that portion is only for

2010
01:31:11,360 --> 01:31:12,880
a quarter of the year.

2011
01:31:12,880 --> 01:31:16,000
And then the assistant chief is in place

2012
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,560
and that's three4.

2013
01:31:18,560 --> 01:31:23,030
Thank you.

2014
01:31:23,040 --> 01:31:24,480
Any question on that before I turn to

2015
01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:27,440
page 24.

2016
01:31:27,440 --> 01:31:32,310
Okay.

2017
01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,159
Chief, can you explain the the

2018
01:31:34,159 --> 01:31:35,760
administrative

2019
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:38,159
expense for public safety foundation? We

2020
01:31:38,159 --> 01:31:40,000
allocated this last year and we were

2021
01:31:40,000 --> 01:31:41,679
hoping that this was going to be used

2022
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:44,560
towards the

2023
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:46,400
Can you tell us where you are this

2024
01:31:46,400 --> 01:31:47,920
portion

2025
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:50,159
or your your department contribution?

2026
01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:52,560
Yes. Um

2027
01:31:52,560 --> 01:31:55,920
we have used that line for we do a lot

2028
01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,080
of events

2029
01:31:58,080 --> 01:32:02,960
and you know we're we're at the events

2030
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,600
for public relations. We're out there

2031
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:08,800
getting uh fire safety information

2032
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:10,480
um

2033
01:32:10,480 --> 01:32:14,400
and recruitment. So, we we have things

2034
01:32:14,400 --> 01:32:16,239
that we give away. We purchase some

2035
01:32:16,239 --> 01:32:17,840
items

2036
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:20,560
um and we're going to be purchasing

2037
01:32:20,560 --> 01:32:22,639
other items. So, for the rest of the

2038
01:32:22,639 --> 01:32:24,800
year, you'll see that being used, but

2039
01:32:24,800 --> 01:32:26,159
we're also working with the police

2040
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:28,159
department and some events coming up.

2041
01:32:28,159 --> 01:32:30,239
So, we haven't used money all the way

2042
01:32:30,239 --> 01:32:33,920
yet. um we're using some of that money

2043
01:32:33,920 --> 01:32:37,360
again for uh public relations and

2044
01:32:37,360 --> 01:32:40,560
community development. So for the rest

2045
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:42,159
of the year, more of that money will be

2046
01:32:42,159 --> 01:32:43,679
used

2047
01:32:43,679 --> 01:32:46,320
and then for next year

2048
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:49,440
we're still researching it. Um we're

2049
01:32:49,440 --> 01:32:51,679
hoping to

2050
01:32:51,679 --> 01:32:54,320
possibly do a program that's called Stop

2051
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:56,000
the Bleed.

2052
01:32:56,000 --> 01:32:58,000
And what that is what?

2053
01:32:58,000 --> 01:32:59,040
Stop the bleed.

2054
01:32:59,040 --> 01:33:01,920
Oh, stop the bleed. Right. It's part

2055
01:33:01,920 --> 01:33:06,159
educational and it's part um

2056
01:33:06,159 --> 01:33:08,560
equipment.

2057
01:33:08,560 --> 01:33:11,600
What it's designed to do is to get into

2058
01:33:11,600 --> 01:33:13,520
the community. And we're we would like

2059
01:33:13,520 --> 01:33:16,960
to possibly target uh the school system,

2060
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,520
the schools, maybe the high school.

2061
01:33:19,520 --> 01:33:23,199
Start with teachers and maybe

2062
01:33:23,199 --> 01:33:24,880
certain groups of children, you know,

2063
01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:27,520
seniors. And you actually go in there

2064
01:33:27,520 --> 01:33:29,679
and you show them how you would pardon

2065
01:33:29,679 --> 01:33:32,800
me, stop major bleeds and you would have

2066
01:33:32,800 --> 01:33:35,120
a packet. In that packet would be

2067
01:33:35,120 --> 01:33:37,520
tourniquets and gauze and some other

2068
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:40,639
items again that would assist stopping

2069
01:33:40,639 --> 01:33:44,400
major. The idea is god forbid we have a

2070
01:33:44,400 --> 01:33:46,400
school shooting but we have another

2071
01:33:46,400 --> 01:33:48,880
large event. Now you have people that

2072
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:52,639
have been trained uh to assist to a

2073
01:33:52,639 --> 01:33:55,520
certain level and you have the materials

2074
01:33:55,520 --> 01:33:58,080
they would need to help you. Mhm.

2075
01:33:58,080 --> 01:34:01,280
So it was something that happened in Las

2076
01:34:01,280 --> 01:34:04,159
Vegas. They had the shooting.

2077
01:34:04,159 --> 01:34:07,520
They had already had that program in

2078
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:08,400
place.

2079
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:10,719
So we're researching that if that would

2080
01:34:10,719 --> 01:34:16,560
be a good source to use that money.

2081
01:34:16,560 --> 01:34:18,400
Chief, I would just tell you that I

2082
01:34:18,400 --> 01:34:19,760
think you're being a little modest when

2083
01:34:19,760 --> 01:34:21,280
you're talking about some of the

2084
01:34:21,280 --> 01:34:22,639
community engagement stuff that you're

2085
01:34:22,639 --> 01:34:24,159
doing because it's not just outreach. It

2086
01:34:24,159 --> 01:34:27,120
is outreach and education and and really

2087
01:34:27,120 --> 01:34:29,520
it's it's preventative things you know

2088
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,280
it's really being proactive that you

2089
01:34:31,280 --> 01:34:33,440
know make sure people educated around

2090
01:34:33,440 --> 01:34:35,280
fire safety things like that are you

2091
01:34:35,280 --> 01:34:37,120
know we can't always you know measure

2092
01:34:37,120 --> 01:34:39,280
the benefits of that but we can measure

2093
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:40,639
the benefits of it when it doesn't

2094
01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:42,320
happen correct so I would I would just

2095
01:34:42,320 --> 01:34:45,040
I can tell you pretty

2096
01:34:45,040 --> 01:34:48,560
certain how many fires we have uh and we

2097
01:34:48,560 --> 01:34:50,480
can project how many we're going to have

2098
01:34:50,480 --> 01:34:54,159
you know we do 3550 structure fires

2099
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:56,960
second alarm fires on average. Uh that

2100
01:34:56,960 --> 01:35:01,040
doesn't include uh the the fires that we

2101
01:35:01,040 --> 01:35:03,679
prevented from going to a second because

2102
01:35:03,679 --> 01:35:05,280
we were there quick and we got in there

2103
01:35:05,280 --> 01:35:07,600
fast and our people did a great job. Did

2104
01:35:07,600 --> 01:35:10,480
a good job. Uh but I can't tell you how

2105
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:14,400
many we prevent. Um so we're we are out

2106
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,520
in the community. Um we gave away some

2107
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:20,000
smoke detectors at an event that we did.

2108
01:35:20,000 --> 01:35:22,080
We're in the schools. while we're at

2109
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:24,719
other community events and and we do

2110
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:28,320
hear the stories. Uh it was Lexington

2111
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,159
Avenue I think a fire approximately

2112
01:35:32,159 --> 01:35:33,840
blended together. It's one big fire in

2113
01:35:33,840 --> 01:35:36,320
my head. Um

2114
01:35:36,320 --> 01:35:40,800
but it was a fire that was started and

2115
01:35:40,800 --> 01:35:44,480
the it was a Saturday I believe. Parents

2116
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:48,159
were sleeping in and a girl uh a young

2117
01:35:48,159 --> 01:35:50,320
girl I forget how old but she was she

2118
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,400
was young. Seven, eight, nine. I don't

2119
01:35:52,400 --> 01:35:54,639
remember.

2120
01:35:54,639 --> 01:35:56,560
Is this the one between Brand and not?

2121
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:56,960
Yes.

2122
01:35:56,960 --> 01:35:57,920
Yeah.

2123
01:35:57,920 --> 01:36:02,159
So that child went through one of our

2124
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:04,480
fire prevention talks.

2125
01:36:04,480 --> 01:36:08,719
She executed the plan perfectly. She did

2126
01:36:08,719 --> 01:36:11,120
everything that was taught. So that's

2127
01:36:11,120 --> 01:36:14,159
one we know worked and there are many

2128
01:36:14,159 --> 01:36:19,110
more that have worked.

2129
01:36:19,120 --> 01:36:26,390
So the outages

2130
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:28,239
appreciate the detail on what you're

2131
01:36:28,239 --> 01:36:29,360
doing there. Those are things that we

2132
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:31,280
needed in our community. But if I can

2133
01:36:31,280 --> 01:36:33,679
recall when we pass this out last year,

2134
01:36:33,679 --> 01:36:36,880
it was primarily towards athletic events

2135
01:36:36,880 --> 01:36:39,600
towards or driven towards that need to

2136
01:36:39,600 --> 01:36:42,320
police that weren't at that. The only

2137
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:43,520
reason why we changed it in public

2138
01:36:43,520 --> 01:36:47,119
safety was a public um athletic

2139
01:36:47,119 --> 01:36:48,800
Well, I think in other communities it

2140
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:50,320
might have been like a PAL.

2141
01:36:50,320 --> 01:36:50,800
Yes.

2142
01:36:50,800 --> 01:36:52,800
Um but I think that because we're

2143
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:53,920
combining

2144
01:36:53,920 --> 01:36:56,320
these guys are working together um as

2145
01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:58,639
departments that public safety

2146
01:36:58,639 --> 01:37:01,040
foundation name came in about. But I

2147
01:37:01,040 --> 01:37:03,040
think it's any community outreach events

2148
01:37:03,040 --> 01:37:06,239
that um either.

2149
01:37:06,239 --> 01:37:08,080
Yeah, I I think it's correct. Yeah. We

2150
01:37:08,080 --> 01:37:09,679
changed it to public safety to accompany

2151
01:37:09,679 --> 01:37:13,119
the was it primarily driven to engage

2152
01:37:13,119 --> 01:37:15,600
the youth and athletic? Well, it's to

2153
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,360
engage the youth could have been

2154
01:37:17,360 --> 01:37:19,920
analytics in some of it. This whole

2155
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,000
thing co has shifted

2156
01:37:22,000 --> 01:37:24,400
the whole thing in a slower pace for the

2157
01:37:24,400 --> 01:37:27,040
engagement, but it's to lay that

2158
01:37:27,040 --> 01:37:32,390
groundwork for really recruitment

2159
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:34,400
in both police and fire.

2160
01:37:34,400 --> 01:37:36,560
Yeah. Because I would like to see we

2161
01:37:36,560 --> 01:37:38,320
kind of go back to where we originally

2162
01:37:38,320 --> 01:37:42,000
set up this for. So engaging you event,

2163
01:37:42,000 --> 01:37:45,280
whatever you need to do to help that

2164
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,080
rather than putting money there to buy

2165
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:50,320
meaningful you know supplies and sharing

2166
01:37:50,320 --> 01:37:52,880
things which is good but we can also

2167
01:37:52,880 --> 01:37:55,199
accommodate funding for that stuff that

2168
01:37:55,199 --> 01:37:57,040
you just mentioned there but we need to

2169
01:37:57,040 --> 01:37:58,800
focus on the public safety foundation

2170
01:37:58,800 --> 01:38:01,040
what it was actually we voted we

2171
01:38:01,040 --> 01:38:04,159
approved it for things like that just to

2172
01:38:04,159 --> 01:38:08,800
benefit the the news last year

2173
01:38:08,800 --> 01:38:11,040
I was there um

2174
01:38:11,040 --> 01:38:13,840
I I guess I would see it

2175
01:38:13,840 --> 01:38:17,280
I mean, I know when we when we when the

2176
01:38:17,280 --> 01:38:19,920
five um Tuesday night events were held,

2177
01:38:19,920 --> 01:38:24,480
for example, this this past summer and both the fire department and the

2178
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:26,239
police department were there and they

2179
01:38:26,239 --> 01:38:28,159
had giveaways. Although, I'm going to

2180
01:38:28,159 --> 01:38:29,600
say that I think that the fire

2181
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:31,920
department was jealous of the police

2182
01:38:31,920 --> 01:38:33,920
department. They had better giveaways a

2183
01:38:33,920 --> 01:38:35,510
little bit.

2184
01:38:35,510 --> 01:38:38,709
[Music]

2185
01:38:38,719 --> 01:38:41,280
Okay, so here's the deal. which is why

2186
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:42,480
we need to increase this budget.

2187
01:38:42,480 --> 01:38:44,800
That's why we have to have the $25,000.

2188
01:38:44,800 --> 01:38:47,520
So, the police have a very good way of

2189
01:38:47,520 --> 01:38:50,159
getting things donated in

2190
01:38:50,159 --> 01:38:52,000
I actually know what the secret was

2191
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:52,400
there.

2192
01:38:52,400 --> 01:38:53,920
Awesome giveaway.

2193
01:38:53,920 --> 01:38:56,400
I know the secret. I know. I know the

2194
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:57,600
secret. I'll tell you.

2195
01:38:57,600 --> 01:38:59,600
Okay. So, they they did a lot of work

2196
01:38:59,600 --> 01:39:03,119
and they got a lot of great things and everybody's very happy.

2197
01:39:03,119 --> 01:39:06,960
What we did was we purchased a bag for a

2198
01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:08,320
dollar and a quarter. Yes.

2199
01:39:08,320 --> 01:39:11,040
With our name on it that the just load

2200
01:39:11,040 --> 01:39:13,600
our bag up.

2201
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:14,159
Believe me,

2202
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:17,199
I think it's the choir department that

2203
01:39:17,199 --> 01:39:20,320
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Um, but I guess I

2204
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:22,000
want to go back to what Mr. Murder was

2205
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,360
saying though. I guess I just don't want

2206
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:25,280
to just limit it to athletic events

2207
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:27,600
because there might be other kinds of

2208
01:39:27,600 --> 01:39:31,040
community fairs um like like if they

2209
01:39:31,040 --> 01:39:32,800
like we had the thing at um Central

2210
01:39:32,800 --> 01:39:34,239
Park. I can't remember which one that

2211
01:39:34,239 --> 01:39:36,159
was, but I mean like even think about

2212
01:39:36,159 --> 01:39:39,679
like a Junth or um the Caribbean Day or

2213
01:39:39,679 --> 01:39:42,480
any of those kinds of festivals. Um if

2214
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:45,440
our folks are there and have giveaways

2215
01:39:45,440 --> 01:39:47,199
um you know those I think should be

2216
01:39:47,199 --> 01:39:49,199
under the same umbrella.

2217
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:51,760
Yeah, I understand. But um let me just

2218
01:39:51,760 --> 01:39:53,679
mention I'm trying to look um it was a

2219
01:39:53,679 --> 01:39:55,360
year ago two years ago the chief they

2220
01:39:55,360 --> 01:39:57,360
were doing these community events and it

2221
01:39:57,360 --> 01:40:00,159
was like $500 per event and they were

2222
01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:02,800
seeking donation outside from outside

2223
01:40:02,800 --> 01:40:03,920
agencies

2224
01:40:03,920 --> 01:40:06,639
and we did add it in the budget in 2021

2225
01:40:06,639 --> 01:40:11,040
and we continue $6,000 so five $500 per

2226
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:13,040
month per event over the 12 month

2227
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:14,880
period. So that is in the police budget

2228
01:40:14,880 --> 01:40:17,840
of $500 per event.

2229
01:40:17,840 --> 01:40:20,159
Exactly. But they did over the threeear

2230
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:20,719
period.

2231
01:40:20,719 --> 01:40:22,239
You mean that's their $25,000?

2232
01:40:22,239 --> 01:40:25,440
No, that is a separate line item. Yes.

2233
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:27,440
So we have we're not talking about

2234
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:29,119
police department.

2235
01:40:29,119 --> 01:40:30,719
Yeah, we're not talking. I just want to

2236
01:40:30,719 --> 01:40:33,199
mention that

2237
01:40:33,199 --> 01:40:35,840
of all the giveaways, does anyone have a

2238
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:41,750
mayor air freshener?

2239
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:43,520
I do.

2240
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:45,440
I don't have them in the car. I got the

2241
01:40:45,440 --> 01:40:47,040
whole stack of them.

2242
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:48,719
It goes directly to code enforcement.

2243
01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:50,480
There you go. Code enforcers.

2244
01:40:50,480 --> 01:40:53,679
It was code enforcement. That's right.

2245
01:40:53,679 --> 01:40:56,480
I did one. I wanted to um in terms of

2246
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:58,239
the where you're saying that it should

2247
01:40:58,239 --> 01:40:59,840
only be around athletics in terms of the

2248
01:40:59,840 --> 01:41:01,040
fire department, which is what we're

2249
01:41:01,040 --> 01:41:03,119
talking about. Um I'm not sure how that

2250
01:41:03,119 --> 01:41:04,400
really looks. I understand with the

2251
01:41:04,400 --> 01:41:06,239
police department, but um like the

2252
01:41:06,239 --> 01:41:07,600
program that he talked about, stop the

2253
01:41:07,600 --> 01:41:10,880
bleed. I think that's like that to me is

2254
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:12,719
just something that actually just makes

2255
01:41:12,719 --> 01:41:14,239
sense because you're teaching a skill

2256
01:41:14,239 --> 01:41:16,320
and then if people are in that

2257
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:18,000
unfortunate circumstance where they have

2258
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,080
to be able to need it. I think it's a

2259
01:41:20,080 --> 01:41:22,239
good thing to teach children or or

2260
01:41:22,239 --> 01:41:23,679
anyone that that you want to teach. And

2261
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:26,639
also, um it's it's something once they

2262
01:41:26,639 --> 01:41:28,080
learn that skill, you know, it's there.

2263
01:41:28,080 --> 01:41:29,440
And actually, I actually witnessed

2264
01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:31,280
something similar to that where so I was

2265
01:41:31,280 --> 01:41:33,360
there and someone got shot outside of

2266
01:41:33,360 --> 01:41:34,719
the office where I worked and there was

2267
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:36,880
a guy who had been in the military

2268
01:41:36,880 --> 01:41:39,679
apparently and he had to do a tourniquet

2269
01:41:39,679 --> 01:41:42,560
and that helped save that person until

2270
01:41:42,560 --> 01:41:46,400
um you know until the the fight

2271
01:41:46,400 --> 01:41:49,520
paramedics came. So, I understand the

2272
01:41:49,520 --> 01:41:51,280
police part of it. I but I think that we

2273
01:41:51,280 --> 01:41:54,560
should have a little bit more um leeway

2274
01:41:54,560 --> 01:41:56,320
in terms of what we do with the fire

2275
01:41:56,320 --> 01:41:56,960
department.

2276
01:41:56,960 --> 01:41:58,560
And I think u when we discussed this

2277
01:41:58,560 --> 01:42:00,639
last year, it was the mayor's request to

2278
01:42:00,639 --> 01:42:02,800
um to buy this money out between the two

2279
01:42:02,800 --> 01:42:04,719
agencies department because we were

2280
01:42:04,719 --> 01:42:07,840
giving based on the police reform

2281
01:42:07,840 --> 01:42:08,960
reinvention.

2282
01:42:08,960 --> 01:42:11,119
putting $50,000 towards the police

2283
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:13,119
department

2284
01:42:13,119 --> 01:42:16,159
requested that we split the 2525 across

2285
01:42:16,159 --> 01:42:18,239
and both department will work within the

2286
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:21,840
community to provide us service. I don't

2287
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,760
have a problem providing um

2288
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:28,960
revenue provide um you know funding to

2289
01:42:28,960 --> 01:42:30,800
the fire department to help them to

2290
01:42:30,800 --> 01:42:33,119
offset the service they're providing in

2291
01:42:33,119 --> 01:42:35,119
terms of what chief mentioned. So that's

2292
01:42:35,119 --> 01:42:37,119
something we should consider apart from

2293
01:42:37,119 --> 01:42:39,920
the foundation we set out specifically

2294
01:42:39,920 --> 01:42:41,679
to do

2295
01:42:41,679 --> 01:42:44,159
a task that we all agreed on that last

2296
01:42:44,159 --> 01:42:45,679
video report.

2297
01:42:45,679 --> 01:42:46,800
So in addition

2298
01:42:46,800 --> 01:42:49,119
we just want to bring that to the table.

2299
01:42:49,119 --> 01:42:51,280
So that's you're actually saying let's

2300
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:52,960
add more money in

2301
01:42:52,960 --> 01:42:55,280
so that the chief doesn't have to tap

2302
01:42:55,280 --> 01:42:57,119
into the public safety foundation. this

2303
01:42:57,119 --> 01:42:59,119
money set aside for a specific purpose

2304
01:42:59,119 --> 01:43:01,760
that we all agreed and voted on last the

2305
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:04,480
year before and we can look at

2306
01:43:04,480 --> 01:43:06,960
additional funding.

2307
01:43:06,960 --> 01:43:08,639
So I guess my question is and then

2308
01:43:08,639 --> 01:43:10,800
probably for the chief is is that a way

2309
01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:12,639
you can spend money? I mean do you do

2310
01:43:12,639 --> 01:43:14,960
athletic things?

2311
01:43:14,960 --> 01:43:17,280
I mean other than running up the ladder

2312
01:43:17,280 --> 01:43:18,719
racket then carrying the hobies. I don't

2313
01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:23,679
mean that part. But um in terms of

2314
01:43:23,679 --> 01:43:26,000
trust me, I like all the city employees,

2315
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:27,600
but the police and fire department do

2316
01:43:27,600 --> 01:43:31,590
not have trouble spending.

2317
01:43:31,600 --> 01:43:32,400
Oh my god.

2318
01:43:32,400 --> 01:43:37,600
See, I heard transfer 25,000. But

2319
01:43:37,600 --> 01:43:38,880
I just want to make sure that you know

2320
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:40,159
you have the opportunity. We don't

2321
01:43:40,159 --> 01:43:41,920
narrow it down so much that you aren't

2322
01:43:41,920 --> 01:43:42,719
able to.

2323
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:44,960
That's how I feel as well.

2324
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:48,080
We've been um the past couple years

2325
01:43:48,080 --> 01:43:51,360
we've increased our uh working

2326
01:43:51,360 --> 01:43:52,880
relationship with the police. They do

2327
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:55,040
some great things. They do a lot of

2328
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:57,360
community outreach and they have

2329
01:43:57,360 --> 01:44:01,199
included us in a lot of those. Um so

2330
01:44:01,199 --> 01:44:03,679
that's where a lot of our

2331
01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:05,520
uh focus has been. Especially this time

2332
01:44:05,520 --> 01:44:06,960
of the year they have like three

2333
01:44:06,960 --> 01:44:09,440
different events coming up dealing with

2334
01:44:09,440 --> 01:44:12,000
Halloween and you know and Christmas

2335
01:44:12,000 --> 01:44:15,520
coming up and whatnot. So, a lot of, you

2336
01:44:15,520 --> 01:44:18,080
know, supplies that we'll need will go

2337
01:44:18,080 --> 01:44:20,400
towards some of those things. And when

2338
01:44:20,400 --> 01:44:23,360
they did their five nights of athletic

2339
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,320
activity, we participated in that also.

2340
01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,600
But, um, as far as us doing a sole

2341
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,600
athletic event, we have not.

2342
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:34,400
Nice.

2343
01:44:34,400 --> 01:44:36,800
So, and that's why they asked was to

2344
01:44:36,800 --> 01:44:38,320
team up with the police department,

2345
01:44:38,320 --> 01:44:40,239
firefighting police department, get out

2346
01:44:40,239 --> 01:44:43,199
there and provide assistance.

2347
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:43,760
Yeah.

2348
01:44:43,760 --> 01:44:45,040
Sorry.

2349
01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:45,840
Go ahead.

2350
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,360
So, if I'm understanding this correctly,

2351
01:44:47,360 --> 01:44:49,760
you were saying that the the the

2352
01:44:49,760 --> 01:44:52,480
foundation um was

2353
01:44:52,480 --> 01:44:54,480
tasked with that those funds were

2354
01:44:54,480 --> 01:44:56,960
supposed to be around career exploration

2355
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:59,199
and in recruitment. Is that what we're

2356
01:44:59,199 --> 01:44:59,760
saying?

2357
01:44:59,760 --> 01:45:00,400
Okay.

2358
01:45:00,400 --> 01:45:02,239
Youth engagement in terms of sports.

2359
01:45:02,239 --> 01:45:05,840
Okay. Isn't that chief we talking about

2360
01:45:05,840 --> 01:45:09,750
for the police?

2361
01:45:09,760 --> 01:45:14,480
Yes. Okay. All right. Primary engagement

2362
01:45:14,480 --> 01:45:16,960
in this stop the bleed program. I would

2363
01:45:16,960 --> 01:45:20,239
suggest that what that does is not only

2364
01:45:20,239 --> 01:45:23,520
is it teaching people a life-saving

2365
01:45:23,520 --> 01:45:24,960
skill, but what it does it does

2366
01:45:24,960 --> 01:45:27,840
introduce um people into that field. And

2367
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:29,520
it is kind of something that will, you

2368
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:31,040
know, increase the likelihood of some

2369
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:32,639
sparkling young person's interest to

2370
01:45:32,639 --> 01:45:34,239
say, you know, this is something I could

2371
01:45:34,239 --> 01:45:36,880
do for them.

2372
01:45:36,880 --> 01:45:38,560
I I I know I'm sounding very

2373
01:45:38,560 --> 01:45:40,880
argumentative. But I just want to say

2374
01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,239
that I think I hear what you're saying

2375
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:44,400
and I I value that what what you're

2376
01:45:44,400 --> 01:45:46,880
saying, but I do also want to say that I

2377
01:45:46,880 --> 01:45:48,480
would rather see us go back and just

2378
01:45:48,480 --> 01:45:51,199
expand the um

2379
01:45:51,199 --> 01:45:53,040
what we origin I don't actually remember

2380
01:45:53,040 --> 01:45:55,040
that we said look it up. I'll look it up

2381
01:45:55,040 --> 01:45:55,760
on

2382
01:45:55,760 --> 01:45:58,400
but I guess I would rather expand to be

2383
01:45:58,400 --> 01:46:01,520
more inclusive of any type of

2384
01:46:01,520 --> 01:46:03,119
anything that they needed to do

2385
01:46:03,119 --> 01:46:05,520
community outreach outreach.

2386
01:46:05,520 --> 01:46:07,199
Absolutely. And maybe we look at it

2387
01:46:07,199 --> 01:46:09,840
back. I will ask um it's my coach to

2388
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:11,119
kind of look that up for us that

2389
01:46:11,119 --> 01:46:12,560
resolution that we passed with the

2390
01:46:12,560 --> 01:46:13,760
backup

2391
01:46:13,760 --> 01:46:15,920
for this uh the public safety foundation

2392
01:46:15,920 --> 01:46:17,600
and you can share it to all of us and we

2393
01:46:17,600 --> 01:46:19,040
can revisit it and look at it and maybe

2394
01:46:19,040 --> 01:46:20,320
expand it and

2395
01:46:20,320 --> 01:46:22,560
a little bit of you know some additional

2396
01:46:22,560 --> 01:46:22,880
funding

2397
01:46:22,880 --> 01:46:24,960
give them more flexibility

2398
01:46:24,960 --> 01:46:27,119
agreed

2399
01:46:27,119 --> 01:46:29,440
fire department or something

2400
01:46:29,440 --> 01:46:35,990
yeah all right let's move on

2401
01:46:36,000 --> 01:46:39,600
any other question on page uh 24

2402
01:46:39,600 --> 01:46:40,800
market. Go ahead, please.

2403
01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:43,280
Just I mean the increase in um cleaning

2404
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:45,280
supplies, laundry, those are all just

2405
01:46:45,280 --> 01:46:47,040
anticipated

2406
01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:49,280
um really

2407
01:46:49,280 --> 01:46:53,040
money uh proposals that were put out in

2408
01:46:53,040 --> 01:46:55,199
you know it's like $10,000 more.

2409
01:46:55,199 --> 01:46:58,960
It's just the bargain cost.

2410
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:00,880
I mean will there be more? Will it be I

2411
01:47:00,880 --> 01:47:03,920
mean where did those numbers come from?

2412
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:04,880
I guess.

2413
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:07,840
Yeah, I know. As we watch the increases

2414
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:08,639
now,

2415
01:47:08,639 --> 01:47:10,880
we try to, you know, estimate what it's

2416
01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:12,960
going to be in the future.

2417
01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,119
They're all off everything medical

2418
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:17,360
supplies, like I said, 30%. This some of

2419
01:47:17,360 --> 01:47:21,119
these other supplies 8%

2420
01:47:21,119 --> 01:47:23,360
laundry and

2421
01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:28,229
for laundry, we know for a fact.

2422
01:47:28,239 --> 01:47:31,600
Yeah, we know that's going for sure.

2423
01:47:31,600 --> 01:47:32,480
only

2424
01:47:32,480 --> 01:47:35,040
any other question on um

2425
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:37,360
the section

2426
01:47:37,360 --> 01:47:39,280
just about the ARPA.

2427
01:47:39,280 --> 01:47:42,639
So in terms of what do we do

2428
01:47:42,639 --> 01:47:44,560
after

2429
01:47:44,560 --> 01:47:46,880
you anticipate this to be ongoing cost

2430
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:50,159
or just as we're getting over CO I'm

2431
01:47:50,159 --> 01:47:51,600
just wondering about under the laundry

2432
01:47:51,600 --> 01:47:53,679
and also under cleaning supplies and

2433
01:47:53,679 --> 01:47:56,000
also under fees for services you're

2434
01:47:56,000 --> 01:47:59,280
seeing ARPA um funded there. So, what we

2435
01:47:59,280 --> 01:48:02,800
learned from ARPA last year was um when

2436
01:48:02,800 --> 01:48:05,040
the budget was made,

2437
01:48:05,040 --> 01:48:07,360
uh we would look at a line and it was

2438
01:48:07,360 --> 01:48:11,280
decided to help that line. Say it was a

2439
01:48:11,280 --> 01:48:13,040
$50,000 line. I don't have anything

2440
01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,800
specific to tell you, but say it was a

2441
01:48:14,800 --> 01:48:17,760
$50,000 line. It was decided we would

2442
01:48:17,760 --> 01:48:20,639
keep $35,000 in the line and then

2443
01:48:20,639 --> 01:48:22,719
supplement it with $15,000 of our

2444
01:48:22,719 --> 01:48:23,840
public.

2445
01:48:23,840 --> 01:48:26,560
But then, as the year went on, we found

2446
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:29,679
the restrictions may be that us to use

2447
01:48:29,679 --> 01:48:32,400
that arc of money

2448
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:34,719
for whatever we were trying to buy. So

2449
01:48:34,719 --> 01:48:36,159
this year when we looked at the budget,

2450
01:48:36,159 --> 01:48:37,520
we said, "Well, we still need that

2451
01:48:37,520 --> 01:48:39,520
$50,000."

2452
01:48:39,520 --> 01:48:43,840
So we've readjusted it to be a more what

2453
01:48:43,840 --> 01:48:46,320
think is a more accurate budget.

2454
01:48:46,320 --> 01:48:47,760
And then we're trying to use some of

2455
01:48:47,760 --> 01:48:50,480
that ARPA money for the oneoffs

2456
01:48:50,480 --> 01:48:52,320
uh that we think we can use it. We know

2457
01:48:52,320 --> 01:48:54,320
we can use it and we won't have that

2458
01:48:54,320 --> 01:48:57,119
reoccurring next year. So the money that

2459
01:48:57,119 --> 01:48:58,880
we're using in AR, we're not going to

2460
01:48:58,880 --> 01:48:59,840
depend on it.

2461
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:00,719
Good.

2462
01:49:00,719 --> 01:49:03,040
And we adjust the line to be more of an

2463
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:04,480
accurate line.

2464
01:49:04,480 --> 01:49:05,840
Great.

2465
01:49:05,840 --> 01:49:08,639
Thank you.

2466
01:49:08,639 --> 01:49:10,400
All right. Let's move to the next page

2467
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:12,639
25.

2468
01:49:12,639 --> 01:49:16,800
Chief, I have this question. Why?

2469
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:18,960
No, I don't have 25. Absolutely. If she

2470
01:49:18,960 --> 01:49:20,239
can have you

2471
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:22,960
does the fire captain captain

2472
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:27,590
emergency medical

2473
01:49:27,600 --> 01:49:29,520
uh because there's a new fire captain in

2474
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:33,280
that position. Um so his pay rate is a

2475
01:49:33,280 --> 01:49:34,239
little bit

2476
01:49:34,239 --> 01:49:41,750
different because of

2477
01:49:41,760 --> 01:49:47,030
like don't like this guy as much

2478
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:48,560
kid.

2479
01:49:48,560 --> 01:49:51,360
All right, let's go. Any any questions?

2480
01:49:51,360 --> 01:49:54,080
Going down on page 25, please go ahead.

2481
01:49:54,080 --> 01:49:56,719
Um, just paramedic bonuses are a lot

2482
01:49:56,719 --> 01:50:00,400
less. $30,000 less. Paramedic bonus.

2483
01:50:00,400 --> 01:50:01,600
Oh, yeah.

2484
01:50:01,600 --> 01:50:05,040
I'm sorry. Can you tell me

2485
01:50:05,040 --> 01:50:06,960
4130

2486
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:10,709
paramedic bonus?

2487
01:50:10,719 --> 01:50:16,390
I just I'm just trying to mark this.

2488
01:50:16,400 --> 01:50:18,400
Yep. Yep. I'm looking at my notes here.

2489
01:50:18,400 --> 01:50:23,030
Okay. Um

2490
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,800
Okay. Because we have some new people

2491
01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:27,600
that are not at the position where they

2492
01:50:27,600 --> 01:50:29,760
would get that second. They have to be

2493
01:50:29,760 --> 01:50:32,639
on a job that certain a certain amount

2494
01:50:32,639 --> 01:50:33,440
of time

2495
01:50:33,440 --> 01:50:36,560
and they haven't met that qualification.

2496
01:50:36,560 --> 01:50:42,390
Yes.

2497
01:50:42,400 --> 01:50:44,960
Any other question on this page?

2498
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:46,480
No. All

2499
01:50:46,480 --> 01:51:00,950
right, keep moving. Page 26.

2500
01:51:00,960 --> 01:51:02,880
There was a lot of movement. Oh, sorry.

2501
01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,719
There was a lot of movement here.

2502
01:51:04,719 --> 01:51:07,119
Just for just for clarity, can you just

2503
01:51:07,119 --> 01:51:09,840
give us, you know, for the sake of

2504
01:51:09,840 --> 01:51:12,159
conversation as to the movement, people

2505
01:51:12,159 --> 01:51:15,760
moving up and because you have some Mhm.

2506
01:51:15,760 --> 01:51:17,280
You're looking at the salaries.

2507
01:51:17,280 --> 01:51:19,119
Yes.

2508
01:51:19,119 --> 01:51:21,520
So, every year, uh, if someone was at

2509
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:25,119
step one, obviously go to step two. And

2510
01:51:25,119 --> 01:51:27,679
then if you have someone that retired,

2511
01:51:27,679 --> 01:51:30,560
they they're going off at a higher rate.

2512
01:51:30,560 --> 01:51:32,639
So, it it's always going to fluctuate a

2513
01:51:32,639 --> 01:51:36,550
little bit.

2514
01:51:36,560 --> 01:51:38,880
My question was about the um firefighter

2515
01:51:38,880 --> 01:51:44,400
academy ARPA. And so, that's uh 336,735.

2516
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:47,679
So I was just again wondering how

2517
01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:49,440
that that's a pretty you know big chunk

2518
01:51:49,440 --> 01:51:51,520
of change and so how moving forward that

2519
01:51:51,520 --> 01:51:55,280
would be um that would be paid.

2520
01:51:55,280 --> 01:51:57,280
Again this is one of the things uh you

2521
01:51:57,280 --> 01:51:59,280
know because we try to get as many

2522
01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:02,000
people in the academy as as we can

2523
01:52:02,000 --> 01:52:05,119
because of uh 2020

2524
01:52:05,119 --> 01:52:07,840
because we did not send so many guys to

2525
01:52:07,840 --> 01:52:09,840
the academy. These are we're actually

2526
01:52:09,840 --> 01:52:13,679
fulfilling uh these uh we're fulfilling

2527
01:52:13,679 --> 01:52:16,560
a lot of these firefighters now. Uh

2528
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,639
you'll see at the end when ARP is done

2529
01:52:18,639 --> 01:52:21,440
you we'll be at full force and we're

2530
01:52:21,440 --> 01:52:24,400
using ARPA because you know we were able

2531
01:52:24,400 --> 01:52:25,520
because we're able to

2532
01:52:25,520 --> 01:52:27,840
No, no, I understand that. My but my

2533
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:29,760
question is so now we we're getting more

2534
01:52:29,760 --> 01:52:30,960
people through the academy using the

2535
01:52:30,960 --> 01:52:32,400
ARPA funds. We still have to pay the

2536
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:33,360
maths over.

2537
01:52:33,360 --> 01:52:35,119
Yeah. But what what's going to happen is

2538
01:52:35,119 --> 01:52:36,880
that you'll have a full force and you

2539
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:38,719
won't you won't need as many. So you

2540
01:52:38,719 --> 01:52:43,760
won't have you won't have 10 guys in the academy every year. You know,

2541
01:52:43,760 --> 01:52:46,320
you'll probably like go back to three or

2542
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:47,280
four a year, right?

2543
01:52:47,280 --> 01:52:52,070
Instead of having

2544
01:52:52,080 --> 01:52:54,800
and this is because we uh because of our

2545
01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:56,719
because of co you know, we actually

2546
01:52:56,719 --> 01:52:58,560
couldn't send anybody to the academy for

2547
01:52:58,560 --> 01:53:00,239
two years. So now we're just trying to

2548
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:03,760
fill all those musicians that were able.

2549
01:53:03,760 --> 01:53:05,599
Okay.

2550
01:53:05,599 --> 01:53:06,639
All right.

2551
01:53:06,639 --> 01:53:07,440
Oh yeah.

2552
01:53:07,440 --> 01:53:10,320
Any additional question on the admin

2553
01:53:10,320 --> 01:53:12,159
salaries? Let's move to the next

2554
01:53:12,159 --> 01:53:14,480
section. The support.

2555
01:53:14,480 --> 01:53:16,960
Any question there?

2556
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:21,830
All right. Let's move down there.

2557
01:53:21,840 --> 01:53:23,599
Chief, can you just explain to us public

2558
01:53:23,599 --> 01:53:26,239
safety equipment and and then public

2559
01:53:26,239 --> 01:53:28,320
safety equipment harp? Can you please

2560
01:53:28,320 --> 01:53:30,560
I I can tell you

2561
01:53:30,560 --> 01:53:34,000
it's a the first public safety equipment

2562
01:53:34,000 --> 01:53:36,639
is eight turnout gears at $4,100 plus

2563
01:53:36,639 --> 01:53:38,960
the ballistic plus the ballistic uh

2564
01:53:38,960 --> 01:53:41,679
things that the chief had talked about

2565
01:53:41,679 --> 01:53:45,679
uh earlier. Uh the 20 uh 28,000 ARPA is

2566
01:53:45,679 --> 01:53:48,480
the turnout gears for the seven officers

2567
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:51,840
we have as ARPA coming in. So the turn

2568
01:53:51,840 --> 01:53:54,239
we're paying you money pay for those

2569
01:53:54,239 --> 01:53:58,320
seven guys because they're in academy.

2570
01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:03,030
Yeah. Sorry.

2571
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:06,560
All right. Keep moving.

2572
01:54:06,560 --> 01:54:10,719
Any additional questions? Page 27 top

2573
01:54:10,719 --> 01:54:11,840
portion. Go ahead, please.

2574
01:54:11,840 --> 01:54:15,840
Well, just um a firefighter for 75,0001

2575
01:54:15,840 --> 01:54:17,920
and did he move up to another position

2576
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,400
or something? There's no

2577
01:54:20,400 --> 01:54:22,400
Which line are you on? Dorine, where are

2578
01:54:22,400 --> 01:54:22,719
you?

2579
01:54:22,719 --> 01:54:26,239
34131 100.

2580
01:54:26,239 --> 01:54:28,880
We may limited a firefighter by putting

2581
01:54:28,880 --> 01:54:30,239
another lieutenant.

2582
01:54:30,239 --> 01:54:32,960
Okay. So, three lieutenants. Okay.

2583
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:37,679
You're looking at the prevention arson task force.

2584
01:54:37,679 --> 01:54:41,040
That's when we came to you for

2585
01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,119
position was

2586
01:54:43,119 --> 01:54:47,270
renamed to

2587
01:54:47,280 --> 01:54:52,320
we have to people in the Lieutenant K.

2588
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:53,360
Go ahead, please.

2589
01:54:53,360 --> 01:54:54,480
So, I actually had a question about

2590
01:54:54,480 --> 01:54:56,159
that. I know when you came to us, chief,

2591
01:54:56,159 --> 01:54:58,719
you were speaking about potentially or

2592
01:54:58,719 --> 01:55:00,800
trying to forecast eliminating overtime

2593
01:55:00,800 --> 01:55:03,599
in that regard. I see that increase by

2594
01:55:03,599 --> 01:55:05,840
2,000. So, was that still holding true

2595
01:55:05,840 --> 01:55:08,080
or are you anticipating in future uh

2596
01:55:08,080 --> 01:55:12,080
just work assignments with this?

2597
01:55:12,080 --> 01:55:13,360
I'm sorry.

2598
01:55:13,360 --> 01:55:16,390
34132.

2599
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:19,199
Yes.

2600
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:20,880
It's overtime.

2601
01:55:20,880 --> 01:55:24,159
I have 1002.

2602
01:55:24,159 --> 01:55:26,000
And

2603
01:55:26,000 --> 01:55:27,199
just when you brought it to the council,

2604
01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:28,480
you were mentioning how having this

2605
01:55:28,480 --> 01:55:30,320
firefighter potentially working out of

2606
01:55:30,320 --> 01:55:32,960
his scope of practice. It was putting

2607
01:55:32,960 --> 01:55:35,280
some undue burden on the limited

2608
01:55:35,280 --> 01:55:37,679
lieutenants, hence moved the firefighter

2609
01:55:37,679 --> 01:55:39,599
to lieutenant position, right?

2610
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:41,520
But I know we're kind of doing that with

2611
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:43,440
the expectation of limiting overtime. So

2612
01:55:43,440 --> 01:55:45,679
there's some important sense.

2613
01:55:45,679 --> 01:55:51,189
Why is it increase? I think they're two

2614
01:55:51,199 --> 01:55:55,270
first.

2615
01:55:55,280 --> 01:55:58,550
Thank you.

2616
01:55:58,560 --> 01:55:59,840
Actually, if I may want

2617
01:55:59,840 --> 01:56:01,679
Yeah,

2618
01:56:01,679 --> 01:56:03,440
I know there's stipens in other areas

2619
01:56:03,440 --> 01:56:05,199
like hazmat stipen. Can you explain what

2620
01:56:05,199 --> 01:56:08,159
the arson stipen is just first time

2621
01:56:08,159 --> 01:56:09,440
being added?

2622
01:56:09,440 --> 01:56:11,760
34136

2623
01:56:11,760 --> 01:56:15,109
contract.

2624
01:56:15,119 --> 01:56:16,800
That's the new contract of selection for

2625
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:23,199
those five guys. Four guys, Maser and

2626
01:56:23,199 --> 01:56:26,320
Thank you.

2627
01:56:26,320 --> 01:56:28,800
Any other question?

2628
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:40,709
Let's move to page 28.

2629
01:56:40,719 --> 01:56:43,920
Any question here on page 28?

2630
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:44,560
Go ahead please.

2631
01:56:44,560 --> 01:56:47,520
Yeah, just one of clarity on A3414100

2632
01:56:47,520 --> 01:56:52,560
the captain in in 20. So I'm not clear

2633
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:56,159
why the um in 20 and 21 there was no

2634
01:56:56,159 --> 01:56:58,480
actuals but then start seeing it in 20

2635
01:56:58,480 --> 01:57:00,960
and 20 and 22

2636
01:57:00,960 --> 01:57:04,560
uh and in 2021 you see there was 1000

2637
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:05,760
I see that

2638
01:57:05,760 --> 01:57:07,280
but oh it's just on the wrong line

2639
01:57:07,280 --> 01:57:08,320
because it's not

2640
01:57:08,320 --> 01:57:10,560
well we don't want to mix it up we did

2641
01:57:10,560 --> 01:57:13,040
it so you can see it better you focus on

2642
01:57:13,040 --> 01:57:14,400
last year and this year

2643
01:57:14,400 --> 01:57:15,520
okay all right

2644
01:57:15,520 --> 01:57:17,840
for the salaries

2645
01:57:17,840 --> 01:57:18,719
okay

2646
01:57:18,719 --> 01:57:21,440
and as you can see because new contract

2647
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:24,639
the 2020 they went from 81,000 to 89,000

2648
01:57:24,639 --> 01:57:28,400
because new contract went through. So

2649
01:57:28,400 --> 01:57:35,510
okay, thank you.

2650
01:57:35,520 --> 01:57:38,239
Any other question on page 20, please?

2651
01:57:38,239 --> 01:57:40,480
Okay, page

2652
01:57:40,480 --> 01:57:45,510
29.

2653
01:57:45,520 --> 01:57:50,709
Any

2654
01:57:50,719 --> 01:57:52,560
question here? Yes. Go ahead. I'm just

2655
01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:56,800
wondering why the 83415 1111 that the

2656
01:57:56,800 --> 01:58:04,790
longevity um increased by about $6,500.

2657
01:58:04,800 --> 01:58:08,719
Contractual uh this deputy chief is is

2658
01:58:08,719 --> 01:58:13,040
going into his what is I think 15 here.

2659
01:58:13,040 --> 01:58:18,480
No, I think he's close to 20 years and the new longevity rate has

2660
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,480
is almost 14%.

2661
01:58:20,480 --> 01:58:24,470
Okay.

2662
01:58:24,480 --> 01:58:28,470
[Music]

2663
01:58:28,480 --> 01:58:31,280
Move to the next page. Page

2664
01:58:31,280 --> 01:58:37,109
30.

2665
01:58:37,119 --> 01:58:40,260
Any

2666
01:58:40,270 --> 01:58:43,280
[Music]

2667
01:58:43,280 --> 01:58:46,239
questions on these few items? If not,

2668
01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:47,520
there's nothing here.

2669
01:58:47,520 --> 01:58:49,440
Thank you, chief.

2670
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:50,080
Thanks, Chief.

2671
01:58:50,080 --> 01:58:52,719
Appreciate

2672
01:58:52,719 --> 01:58:54,080
you. Do you want to do a couple of

2673
01:58:54,080 --> 01:58:56,639
projects for for the fire department?

2674
01:58:56,639 --> 01:59:01,280
Now, there you only got a couple items.

2675
01:59:01,280 --> 01:59:02,880
Where were those?

2676
01:59:02,880 --> 01:59:03,760
Capital projects.

2677
01:59:03,760 --> 01:59:06,080
Oh, the capital projects, right? Yeah. I

2678
01:59:06,080 --> 01:59:09,430
didn't hear it.

2679
01:59:09,440 --> 01:59:13,109
Yep. Yep. Yep.

2680
01:59:13,119 --> 01:59:18,070
You want to see them here?

2681
01:59:18,080 --> 01:59:19,599
So, do you have the

2682
01:59:19,599 --> 01:59:21,840
We do. Yes, we do.

2683
01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:22,960
Just three three items.

2684
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:26,709
No, we do.

2685
01:59:26,719 --> 01:59:28,719
Only three items should go quick. Go

2686
01:59:28,719 --> 01:59:32,960
ahead, Chief. Explain this by

2687
01:59:32,960 --> 01:59:35,360
So, the first one uh we were requesting

2688
01:59:35,360 --> 01:59:37,119
to

2689
01:59:37,119 --> 01:59:40,560
command vehicles, SUVs uh in there to

2690
01:59:40,560 --> 01:59:43,280
replace two vehicles that are 17 years

2691
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:44,800
old.

2692
01:59:44,800 --> 01:59:49,189
That's pretty basic.

2693
01:59:49,199 --> 01:59:50,880
So, over the last few years, we've been

2694
01:59:50,880 --> 01:59:53,199
trying to

2695
01:59:53,199 --> 01:59:54,800
we do a really good job with our

2696
01:59:54,800 --> 01:59:58,239
frontline vehicles. This is some of the

2697
01:59:58,239 --> 02:00:01,119
other ancillary vehicles have gotten

2698
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:04,560
pretty old. So, the next item would be a

2699
02:00:04,560 --> 02:00:08,159
U truck replacement. Currently, we're

2700
02:00:08,159 --> 02:00:10,880
using the vehicle that we purchased from

2701
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:13,840
Jonesville Fire Department in 2018.

2702
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:17,760
Vehicle is 21 years old. It has u it's

2703
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,239
shown a lot of wear on the body. It's

2704
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:23,119
starting to have some mechanical issues.

2705
02:00:23,119 --> 02:00:27,520
So, that would be a $90,000 vehicle. And

2706
02:00:27,520 --> 02:00:30,000
we're hoping not to spend that much, but

2707
02:00:30,000 --> 02:00:31,679
because of inflation, we're not really

2708
02:00:31,679 --> 02:00:35,280
sure where we're going to end up. So,

2709
02:00:35,280 --> 02:00:36,800
we think, you know, it may be a little

2710
02:00:36,800 --> 02:00:38,480
bit less, but that's why we budgeted for

2711
02:00:38,480 --> 02:00:40,560
that.

2712
02:00:40,560 --> 02:00:42,880
And the last item

2713
02:00:42,880 --> 02:00:46,239
is for extrication equipment. What we're

2714
02:00:46,239 --> 02:00:49,360
using now is 10 years old. We have three

2715
02:00:49,360 --> 02:00:51,840
separate units. Two of them are

2716
02:00:51,840 --> 02:00:57,270
hydraulic and one is battery.

2717
02:00:57,280 --> 02:01:01,119
Hydraulic um systems are really good

2718
02:01:01,119 --> 02:01:03,119
with certain applications.

2719
02:01:03,119 --> 02:01:04,800
battery applications are really good

2720
02:01:04,800 --> 02:01:07,280
with other applications. So right now on

2721
02:01:07,280 --> 02:01:10,159
truck one we have a hydraulic and a

2722
02:01:10,159 --> 02:01:12,960
battery unit and on truck two we only

2723
02:01:12,960 --> 02:01:16,159
have one hydraulic unit and they have

2724
02:01:16,159 --> 02:01:19,520
reached the end of their life. So we are

2725
02:01:19,520 --> 02:01:22,000
asking for

2726
02:01:22,000 --> 02:01:24,159
two hydraulic units, two battery units

2727
02:01:24,159 --> 02:01:26,960
and we would put one hydraulic one

2728
02:01:26,960 --> 02:01:28,880
battery in truck one, one hydraulic one

2729
02:01:28,880 --> 02:01:30,480
battery in truck two.

2730
02:01:30,480 --> 02:01:32,560
And these these are

2731
02:01:32,560 --> 02:01:36,870
Charles

2732
02:01:36,880 --> 02:01:39,040
um

2733
02:01:39,040 --> 02:01:41,040
so and then what we would do with what

2734
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:43,440
we have now

2735
02:01:43,440 --> 02:01:45,679
that would be assessed and what can be

2736
02:01:45,679 --> 02:01:48,159
used and what we can peace meal we would

2737
02:01:48,159 --> 02:01:49,920
take that unit and put it on a spare

2738
02:01:49,920 --> 02:01:50,880
truck.

2739
02:01:50,880 --> 02:01:53,199
So now if the spare truck had a roll out

2740
02:01:53,199 --> 02:01:54,719
it'd be ready to go.

2741
02:01:54,719 --> 02:01:57,440
Great.

2742
02:01:57,440 --> 02:02:00,000
Any question on

2743
02:02:00,000 --> 02:02:04,070
the fire department?

2744
02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:12,790
Thank you.

2745
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:25,830
Super.

2746
02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:27,080
Yeah.

2747
02:02:27,080 --> 02:02:30,550
[Music]

2748
02:02:30,560 --> 02:02:33,760
This happened by

2749
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:40,790
[Music]

2750
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:45,910
we can have up there.

2751
02:02:45,920 --> 02:02:49,679
Who's taking a hot seat?

2752
02:02:49,679 --> 02:02:53,510
Chief is

2753
02:02:53,520 --> 02:02:59,420
leaving.

2754
02:02:59,430 --> 02:03:05,830
[Music]

2755
02:03:05,840 --> 02:03:13,750
Bye-bye, chief. Thank you.

2756
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:16,239
No, he wants to get right out.

2757
02:03:16,239 --> 02:03:19,119
Well, I think we should bring Chief

2758
02:03:19,119 --> 02:03:20,400
here. This might be one of his last

2759
02:03:20,400 --> 02:03:23,660
budgets.

2760
02:03:23,670 --> 02:03:25,840
[Music]

2761
02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:28,560
I put him right before my last play.

2762
02:03:28,560 --> 02:03:29,360
He's really lucky.

2763
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:30,719
You going to work on something else?

2764
02:03:30,719 --> 02:03:33,840
No. Mike Sber,

2765
02:03:33,840 --> 02:03:40,870
he's a lot of help.

2766
02:03:40,880 --> 02:03:42,480
Anthony, you want to give us a snapshot

2767
02:03:42,480 --> 02:03:43,840
and then we'll go to um

2768
02:03:43,840 --> 02:03:46,239
the the total the total police budgets

2769
02:03:46,239 --> 02:03:48,880
of $696,000

2770
02:03:48,880 --> 02:03:53,360
and 900 $696,31.

2771
02:03:53,360 --> 02:03:56,159
But totally that's comes to a 2.96%

2772
02:03:56,159 --> 02:03:57,520
increase, which is

2773
02:03:57,520 --> 02:03:59,199
pretty pretty good.

2774
02:03:59,199 --> 02:04:02,560
Uh the chief uh assistant chief whipple

2775
02:04:02,560 --> 02:04:06,320
and Mike Seabber we worked

2776
02:04:06,320 --> 02:04:08,800
this thing right out as close as we can

2777
02:04:08,800 --> 02:04:10,880
get it. I got to give them a lot of

2778
02:04:10,880 --> 02:04:12,480
credit

2779
02:04:12,480 --> 02:04:15,520
but water

2780
02:04:15,520 --> 02:04:20,629
there are some new positions and here

2781
02:04:20,639 --> 02:04:22,880
right up. First thing I just have to say

2782
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:24,800
I did not again I did not give the

2783
02:04:24,800 --> 02:04:28,950
Eugene div.

2784
02:04:28,960 --> 02:04:32,480
All right. Now we can go

2785
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:33,199
I think we got it.

2786
02:04:33,199 --> 02:04:34,159
So what page are we on?

2787
02:04:34,159 --> 02:04:36,639
Chief you taking it page 17.

2788
02:04:36,639 --> 02:04:37,280
Oh

2789
02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,520
and chief you want to give us like a

2790
02:04:39,520 --> 02:04:41,840
overview last year and then we'll go

2791
02:04:41,840 --> 02:04:44,239
into

2792
02:04:44,239 --> 02:04:45,760
Okay. Got it.

2793
02:04:45,760 --> 02:04:48,960
Sure. So, I guess I'll just talk about a

2794
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:50,320
little bit what we've what we've gone

2795
02:04:50,320 --> 02:04:52,080
through this year with our challenges.

2796
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:55,920
Um, crimes up and our staffing numbers

2797
02:04:55,920 --> 02:04:59,920
are down and um we're working on them.

2798
02:04:59,920 --> 02:05:01,920
We've had a lot of retirements. We've

2799
02:05:01,920 --> 02:05:03,920
had a few lateral transfers. We've had

2800
02:05:03,920 --> 02:05:06,639
some injuries and we've had good amount

2801
02:05:06,639 --> 02:05:09,040
of people go into the military be

2802
02:05:09,040 --> 02:05:10,560
deployed because of what's going on in

2803
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:12,880
the world. So, we have some staffing

2804
02:05:12,880 --> 02:05:15,760
challenges while crime is up. But all in

2805
02:05:15,760 --> 02:05:18,320
all, everybody's doing a great job.

2806
02:05:18,320 --> 02:05:19,760
We're we're holding it together. We're

2807
02:05:19,760 --> 02:05:22,080
not delivering the level of response

2808
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:25,440
that we want to. Um but on the

2809
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,119
investigative side, we've been doing a

2810
02:05:27,119 --> 02:05:30,560
lot of really hard work. Um solving a

2811
02:05:30,560 --> 02:05:33,360
lot of pretty good crimes and uh and

2812
02:05:33,360 --> 02:05:36,000
trying to hold back some of the uh the

2813
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:37,440
bad things that have been happening in

2814
02:05:37,440 --> 02:05:38,719
our neighboring communities and

2815
02:05:38,719 --> 02:05:41,199
nationwide. We've been focusing on

2816
02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:44,000
evidence-based policing strongly.

2817
02:05:44,000 --> 02:05:46,480
Um, we have a really strong intelligence

2818
02:05:46,480 --> 02:05:50,639
unit and I can't say enough about um,

2819
02:05:50,639 --> 02:05:53,679
what they do, the work they do. We use

2820
02:05:53,679 --> 02:05:56,080
technology where we tend to fill gaps

2821
02:05:56,080 --> 02:05:58,719
where our personnel can't fill them. We

2822
02:05:58,719 --> 02:06:00,239
rely on our partnerships that we've

2823
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:01,599
developed over the years with the

2824
02:06:01,599 --> 02:06:03,760
county, the state, and the federal

2825
02:06:03,760 --> 02:06:05,360
government.

2826
02:06:05,360 --> 02:06:07,599
And uh what I see happening next year is

2827
02:06:07,599 --> 02:06:10,159
it's going to be an exciting year. Uh

2828
02:06:10,159 --> 02:06:13,119
thanks to to you uh improving our our

2829
02:06:13,119 --> 02:06:15,440
transition to Axon, we're going to see a

2830
02:06:15,440 --> 02:06:16,800
significant increase in the number of

2831
02:06:16,800 --> 02:06:19,679
LPRs down the road and that's going to

2832
02:06:19,679 --> 02:06:24,080
help us in many ways. Um we are we are

2833
02:06:24,080 --> 02:06:25,920
going to be rolling out a police

2834
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:27,360
efficiency project that we've been

2835
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:29,599
working on with Transfinder.

2836
02:06:29,599 --> 02:06:31,280
I don't have a lot of details right now,

2837
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,920
but that will be rolling out um later

2838
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:36,159
this year, early next year. That's going

2839
02:06:36,159 --> 02:06:38,480
to be pretty exciting. It's basically a

2840
02:06:38,480 --> 02:06:39,840
culmination of things that we've talked

2841
02:06:39,840 --> 02:06:42,639
about in the past um with with trying to

2842
02:06:42,639 --> 02:06:45,520
help our officers and uh with their

2843
02:06:45,520 --> 02:06:49,440
efficiency on the road. Uh we are

2844
02:06:49,440 --> 02:06:51,360
continue we continue to work on bu

2845
02:06:51,360 --> 02:06:53,360
building out our real time analysis

2846
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:56,320
center in the police department where we

2847
02:06:56,320 --> 02:06:59,199
we're using cameras that are deployed

2848
02:06:59,199 --> 02:07:00,800
citywide

2849
02:07:00,800 --> 02:07:05,119
um more effectively to help us uh deter

2850
02:07:05,119 --> 02:07:08,480
crime in addition to solve crime.

2851
02:07:08,480 --> 02:07:11,199
And uh we're hoping to we've run into a

2852
02:07:11,199 --> 02:07:13,679
couple challenges, but we're hoping to

2853
02:07:13,679 --> 02:07:15,520
uh increase our transparency on our

2854
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:17,520
website with giving more information out

2855
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:20,239
to the public on on what we do and why

2856
02:07:20,239 --> 02:07:23,679
we do it. So our our total numbers right

2857
02:07:23,679 --> 02:07:27,840
now, we're at 154 police officers. We

2858
02:07:27,840 --> 02:07:31,280
should be at 164 with the addition of

2859
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:33,199
our community engagement officers in the

2860
02:07:33,199 --> 02:07:38,400
schools and our um the the cops grant

2861
02:07:38,400 --> 02:07:43,280
that we got and we anticipate uh with

2862
02:07:43,280 --> 02:07:47,040
your approval uh going to 167 officers

2863
02:07:47,040 --> 02:07:49,040
by adding those three additional

2864
02:07:49,040 --> 02:07:51,520
community engagement officers for the

2865
02:07:51,520 --> 02:07:54,480
school for next year. Um I should note

2866
02:07:54,480 --> 02:07:57,840
that uh the cops grant and the community

2867
02:07:57,840 --> 02:08:00,239
engagement officers are there's a

2868
02:08:00,239 --> 02:08:02,480
combination of grant funding and school

2869
02:08:02,480 --> 02:08:05,920
funding not 100% but a good amount most

2870
02:08:05,920 --> 02:08:08,159
of most of which will cover the

2871
02:08:08,159 --> 02:08:10,320
replacement officers and their lower

2872
02:08:10,320 --> 02:08:12,079
salaries.

2873
02:08:12,079 --> 02:08:14,400
Um the additions to this budget that

2874
02:08:14,400 --> 02:08:21,760
we'll be talking about um is a budget uh aotment for training for

2875
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,000
anti-racism

2876
02:08:24,000 --> 02:08:26,800
a an addition of two civilian

2877
02:08:26,800 --> 02:08:30,239
personnels. one for it due to the amount

2878
02:08:30,239 --> 02:08:33,280
of work that we have like to transition

2879
02:08:33,280 --> 02:08:36,639
duties to a civilian that costs less so

2880
02:08:36,639 --> 02:08:38,960
we don't have to pay a police officer

2881
02:08:38,960 --> 02:08:41,760
that costs more to do the same work you

2882
02:08:41,760 --> 02:08:45,040
have police officer do police work a uh

2883
02:08:45,040 --> 02:08:47,599
civilian mental health coordinator which

2884
02:08:47,599 --> 02:08:52,239
will help us uh coordinate uh all of our

2885
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:54,400
follow-ups on individuals that need

2886
02:08:54,400 --> 02:08:56,719
mental health followup

2887
02:08:56,719 --> 02:09:00,560
And also what we discussed earlier with

2888
02:09:00,560 --> 02:09:09,040
the county task force uh uh our tradition of our lead analyst um

2889
02:09:09,040 --> 02:09:11,840
from from our give analysts promoting

2890
02:09:11,840 --> 02:09:13,360
one of the analyst to the give analyst

2891
02:09:13,360 --> 02:09:15,840
and our lead analyst taking a more

2892
02:09:15,840 --> 02:09:18,719
managerial role with uh with with

2893
02:09:18,719 --> 02:09:23,830
organizing and running that unit.

2894
02:09:23,840 --> 02:09:27,199
Okay. All right. So we can just go. You

2895
02:09:27,199 --> 02:09:28,960
going to say anything? We can't do that.

2896
02:09:28,960 --> 02:09:31,520
Don't

2897
02:09:31,520 --> 02:09:37,750
late show.

2898
02:09:37,760 --> 02:09:39,280
All right.

2899
02:09:39,280 --> 02:09:42,800
So we'll move on page 17 and we'll just

2900
02:09:42,800 --> 02:09:45,440
you know regular stuff and if you have

2901
02:09:45,440 --> 02:09:48,320
question we'll ask the chiefs.

2902
02:09:48,320 --> 02:09:49,040
A question.

2903
02:09:49,040 --> 02:09:53,599
Go ahead please. So, um, the can you the

2904
02:09:53,599 --> 02:09:55,920
mobile radio? Well, actually, it's back.

2905
02:09:55,920 --> 02:09:57,360
That's yours, right? The mobile.

2906
02:09:57,360 --> 02:09:58,320
No. Okay.

2907
02:09:58,320 --> 02:09:59,679
Yes.

2908
02:09:59,679 --> 02:10:02,079
That's on page 60.

2909
02:10:02,079 --> 02:10:04,239
That is what

2910
02:10:04,239 --> 02:10:06,400
the vehicle that we can park.

2911
02:10:06,400 --> 02:10:11,199
No. No. What happened is um over the years we

2912
02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:12,719
had a mobile radio district within the

2913
02:10:12,719 --> 02:10:14,320
county. So all the members of all

2914
02:10:14,320 --> 02:10:16,480
agencies within police um law

2915
02:10:16,480 --> 02:10:18,560
enforcement were members of they had a

2916
02:10:18,560 --> 02:10:21,199
budget and we ran our radio system and

2917
02:10:21,199 --> 02:10:25,119
that was a um DHS type of system and

2918
02:10:25,119 --> 02:10:27,040
over the years we used through the

2919
02:10:27,040 --> 02:10:28,400
county and through the police

2920
02:10:28,400 --> 02:10:30,800
departments we secured a a grant for

2921
02:10:30,800 --> 02:10:32,880
upwards of 12 or 16 million with the

2922
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:34,400
county making up the differences $18

2923
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:36,480
million project um for the

2924
02:10:36,480 --> 02:10:38,800
infrastructure of 800 megahertz radio

2925
02:10:38,800 --> 02:10:41,040
system with that system. there there are

2926
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,040
certain licensing certain things that

2927
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:45,440
they have pushed down to the the city

2928
02:10:45,440 --> 02:10:47,840
and and towns and that's our portion

2929
02:10:47,840 --> 02:10:50,480
similar to what mobile radio district

2930
02:10:50,480 --> 02:10:52,320
was before. So it's just our portion

2931
02:10:52,320 --> 02:10:54,639
that but but we the new radios haven't

2932
02:10:54,639 --> 02:10:56,639
cost us anything. The the whole $18

2933
02:10:56,639 --> 02:10:59,280
million million project hasn't cost us

2934
02:10:59,280 --> 02:11:01,199
anything. So this is kind of our our end

2935
02:11:01,199 --> 02:11:03,280
of it as far as um what we're

2936
02:11:03,280 --> 02:11:05,520
responsible financially

2937
02:11:05,520 --> 02:11:07,920
and there's greater interoperability

2938
02:11:07,920 --> 02:11:10,639
between agencies in this

2939
02:11:10,639 --> 02:11:11,840
system that's in place now.

2940
02:11:11,840 --> 02:11:12,960
Yeah. Not only that, you can communicate

2941
02:11:12,960 --> 02:11:14,880
if we had a car pursuer had to assist

2942
02:11:14,880 --> 02:11:16,960
with another agency, we can communicate

2943
02:11:16,960 --> 02:11:18,880
uh flawlessly throughout the state now.

2944
02:11:18,880 --> 02:11:20,719
And so it's it's a system we also become

2945
02:11:20,719 --> 02:11:23,040
a hub that they wanted us to be um

2946
02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:24,880
because our geographic location.

2947
02:11:24,880 --> 02:11:26,000
somebody coming in from Buffalo,

2948
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:27,520
somebody come from New York City, we can

2949
02:11:27,520 --> 02:11:31,679
actually our our our um um radio towers

2950
02:11:31,679 --> 02:11:33,599
assist them as well. So, it benefited

2951
02:11:33,599 --> 02:11:36,000
the state largely, but it benefited each

2952
02:11:36,000 --> 02:11:38,400
local municipality as well.

2953
02:11:38,400 --> 02:11:43,119
And and an additional benefit is it's a platform that can just grow

2954
02:11:43,119 --> 02:11:45,199
tremendously. One of the things that

2955
02:11:45,199 --> 02:11:47,119
they're focusing on for next year is to

2956
02:11:47,119 --> 02:11:49,360
give a portable radio to every principal

2957
02:11:49,360 --> 02:11:50,639
in every school

2958
02:11:50,639 --> 02:11:52,239
so that in an emergency they'll be able

2959
02:11:52,239 --> 02:11:58,149
to communicate

2960
02:11:58,159 --> 02:12:03,280
So on line 83120 on page 17 um police

2961
02:12:03,280 --> 02:12:05,920
and then something cm like community

2962
02:12:05,920 --> 02:12:08,800
chaplain under ARPA for 12,000. Um what

2963
02:12:08,800 --> 02:12:09,760
is that?

2964
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:12,480
We started it last year.

2965
02:12:12,480 --> 02:12:14,079
Yeah, that's a uh that's that's a budget

2966
02:12:14,079 --> 02:12:15,920
amendment that we put in there. We we

2967
02:12:15,920 --> 02:12:18,000
have not done anything with it yet that

2968
02:12:18,000 --> 02:12:19,280
this year, but we have a meeting

2969
02:12:19,280 --> 02:12:21,760
schedule uh where we want to build a

2970
02:12:21,760 --> 02:12:24,159
police chaplain program that's uh for

2971
02:12:24,159 --> 02:12:26,800
the community. Uh the the one above it,

2972
02:12:26,800 --> 02:12:29,119
which is the police chap, is for the

2973
02:12:29,119 --> 02:12:31,199
police officers, but this would be a

2974
02:12:31,199 --> 02:12:33,760
police chaplain program that we would

2975
02:12:33,760 --> 02:12:36,000
have them out in the community engaging

2976
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:38,719
with the community, be there for um for

2977
02:12:38,719 --> 02:12:40,239
the community. Should there be a

2978
02:12:40,239 --> 02:12:41,760
traumatic event where we call for a

2979
02:12:41,760 --> 02:12:44,079
chaplain, a member of the clergy will

2980
02:12:44,079 --> 02:12:45,599
come there and be there for the

2981
02:12:45,599 --> 02:12:48,000
community and uh they'll they'll partner

2982
02:12:48,000 --> 02:12:50,079
with us. One of the things Lieutenant

2983
02:12:50,079 --> 02:12:51,760
Mashon is working on with the city

2984
02:12:51,760 --> 02:12:54,480
mission is to have them help us with

2985
02:12:54,480 --> 02:12:56,159
dealing with our homeless

2986
02:12:56,159 --> 02:12:57,920
and and finding them the resources that

2987
02:12:57,920 --> 02:12:59,760
they need. So that that that's part of

2988
02:12:59,760 --> 02:13:03,599
the plan and we uh we haven't got going

2989
02:13:03,599 --> 02:13:07,760
as fast as we want to this year, but we have a we have we have a meeting

2990
02:13:07,760 --> 02:13:08,480
scheduled.

2991
02:13:08,480 --> 02:13:10,560
Nice. We were praying we could get off

2992
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:12,400
the ground.

2993
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:18,390
Sorry, my last one.

2994
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:19,920
So, in terms of because this kind of

2995
02:13:19,920 --> 02:13:21,920
came up at a council meeting in terms of

2996
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:24,560
who would be on that list, will you will

2997
02:13:24,560 --> 02:13:26,719
there be different faiths, people from

2998
02:13:26,719 --> 02:13:27,840
different faith?

2999
02:13:27,840 --> 02:13:33,119
Absolutely. Okay. That's that. Yeah, we will absolutely have different

3000
02:13:33,119 --> 02:13:35,360
faiths, but I think the the whole

3001
02:13:35,360 --> 02:13:37,679
program is really supposed to be more

3002
02:13:37,679 --> 02:13:39,840
about just faith than the specific

3003
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:41,760
religion, but we'll absolutely have if

3004
02:13:41,760 --> 02:13:43,840
somebody asks for a member of a certain

3005
02:13:43,840 --> 02:13:45,440
faith, we we're going to do our best to

3006
02:13:45,440 --> 02:13:47,920
have a member of every faith possible.

3007
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:48,639
Okay.

3008
02:13:48,639 --> 02:13:50,880
Thank you.

3009
02:13:50,880 --> 02:13:52,639
Go ahead, please. And just for

3010
02:13:52,639 --> 02:13:54,880
clarification, how would the police

3011
02:13:54,880 --> 02:13:56,480
community chaplain differentiate between

3012
02:13:56,480 --> 02:13:58,800
the police chap

3013
02:13:58,800 --> 02:14:02,320
um numbers, you know, not that, you

3014
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:03,840
know, I'm not saying that our the police

3015
02:14:03,840 --> 02:14:05,599
chap

3016
02:14:05,599 --> 02:14:06,880
will not be a part of this. It's just

3017
02:14:06,880 --> 02:14:08,960
that he's very busy. He can't be

3018
02:14:08,960 --> 02:14:11,199
everywhere at once. So, it'll be uh

3019
02:14:11,199 --> 02:14:13,520
it'll be a force multiplier. We we found

3020
02:14:13,520 --> 02:14:15,440
that at our last swearing in where

3021
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:17,440
somebody forgot to invite him. So,

3022
02:14:17,440 --> 02:14:20,960
Hamilton was there. you pinch hit force

3023
02:14:20,960 --> 02:14:24,639
in. And so that that's the whole that's kind of the concept is is really

3024
02:14:24,639 --> 02:14:27,199
the force multiplier to have more than

3025
02:14:27,199 --> 02:14:28,639
one chap.

3026
02:14:28,639 --> 02:14:31,360
But also too is it the police more for

3027
02:14:31,360 --> 02:14:33,760
police force itself or the community

3028
02:14:33,760 --> 02:14:35,280
more victims or outreach.

3029
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:36,800
This will be a bridge this be a bridge

3030
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:39,599
between law enforcement communities.

3031
02:14:39,599 --> 02:14:43,109
Thank you.

3032
02:14:43,119 --> 02:14:44,719
mentioned I'm just going to ask

3033
02:14:44,719 --> 02:14:46,639
again information technology specialist.

3034
02:14:46,639 --> 02:14:48,960
I know you're currently utilizing the

3035
02:14:48,960 --> 02:14:52,719
this the overall city IT department to

3036
02:14:52,719 --> 02:14:55,520
assist your police department.

3037
02:14:55,520 --> 02:14:58,400
Sometime back we we had a lieutenant R&D

3038
02:14:58,400 --> 02:15:01,679
that will see and assist with IT work.

3039
02:15:01,679 --> 02:15:03,679
Where is that

3040
02:15:03,679 --> 02:15:06,639
position and support versus the new

3041
02:15:06,639 --> 02:15:07,920
looking?

3042
02:15:07,920 --> 02:15:11,599
He he he's still there and um so so this

3043
02:15:11,599 --> 02:15:13,040
a lot of the things that he does we'd

3044
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:16,000
want a civilian to do. So, it's it's we

3045
02:15:16,000 --> 02:15:18,800
want to try to clone Jan or Rosario and

3046
02:15:18,800 --> 02:15:20,400
have them do a lot of the work that he's

3047
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:21,280
doing.

3048
02:15:21,280 --> 02:15:23,199
Um, and then we would once we got that

3049
02:15:23,199 --> 02:15:25,360
position up and running, we would look

3050
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:28,719
to have that position transition to

3051
02:15:28,719 --> 02:15:30,719
we're not sure exactly what. I'd rather

3052
02:15:30,719 --> 02:15:32,239
not say publicly what it's going to be,

3053
02:15:32,239 --> 02:15:33,760
but we're looking to have that that that

3054
02:15:33,760 --> 02:15:36,320
job transition to something uh that's

3055
02:15:36,320 --> 02:15:38,000
very important in the police department.

3056
02:15:38,000 --> 02:15:40,000
But currently, you you're getting the

3057
02:15:40,000 --> 02:15:41,920
support from the IT department.

3058
02:15:41,920 --> 02:15:44,400
Yes, we are. We just we just see that

3059
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,159
especially with bringing on Axon with

3060
02:15:46,159 --> 02:15:49,040
all with with trying to work towards

3061
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:50,480
what the mayor's been asking us for

3062
02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:52,719
which is to grab the data that's up in

3063
02:15:52,719 --> 02:15:55,119
on the edge of every light pole bring it

3064
02:15:55,119 --> 02:15:57,520
down and make it actionable that that's

3065
02:15:57,520 --> 02:15:59,520
where we just we need more technical

3066
02:15:59,520 --> 02:16:01,520
people. We if I can also we've embraced

3067
02:16:01,520 --> 02:16:02,960
technology so much especially over the

3068
02:16:02,960 --> 02:16:04,480
last five years you know just from

3069
02:16:04,480 --> 02:16:06,880
administrative cost of of licensing and

3070
02:16:06,880 --> 02:16:08,000
so forth but there's a lot of

3071
02:16:08,000 --> 02:16:10,239
administrative actions that go on in

3072
02:16:10,239 --> 02:16:13,920
Missouri can't have the time to do and

3073
02:16:13,920 --> 02:16:15,920
the lieutenant does some of them not all

3074
02:16:15,920 --> 02:16:17,360
because we kind of spread it out but

3075
02:16:17,360 --> 02:16:18,960
just kind of brings it all together and

3076
02:16:18,960 --> 02:16:20,560
gives us somebody on a daily basis that

3077
02:16:20,560 --> 02:16:22,000
we can work with I I personally think

3078
02:16:22,000 --> 02:16:23,440
it's very important you know to have

3079
02:16:23,440 --> 02:16:24,800
this position because of technology that

3080
02:16:24,800 --> 02:16:29,679
we're embracing so just as we expand so

3081
02:16:29,679 --> 02:16:33,200
this salary point again is a good

3082
02:16:33,200 --> 02:16:37,040
estimate but maybe on the low side in

3083
02:16:37,040 --> 02:16:38,719
terms of what the skill set

3084
02:16:38,719 --> 02:16:39,439
for technology

3085
02:16:39,439 --> 02:16:40,960
would like.

3086
02:16:40,960 --> 02:16:44,000
So once the once you get the civilian on

3087
02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:46,240
to do this and with the sworn officer

3088
02:16:46,240 --> 02:16:49,280
what would what happens then he or she

3089
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:52,399
I'm not sure it's which is those two how

3090
02:16:52,399 --> 02:16:54,160
does how do their duties change if they

3091
02:16:54,160 --> 02:16:55,200
won't be doing the information

3092
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:59,840
technology anymore? It'll be something connected, but just

3093
02:16:59,840 --> 02:17:02,639
more focused on solving crime and and

3094
02:17:02,639 --> 02:17:05,840
leading people rather than doing the the

3095
02:17:05,840 --> 02:17:08,080
busy work, the you know, delivering a

3096
02:17:08,080 --> 02:17:10,240
portable radio to somebody or helping

3097
02:17:10,240 --> 02:17:11,840
somebody fix their computer that can't

3098
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:15,840
log on. A lot a lot of the things that are being done right now by this

3099
02:17:15,840 --> 02:17:16,880
lieutenant

3100
02:17:16,880 --> 02:17:19,439
could be done by a civilian that salary

3101
02:17:19,439 --> 02:17:22,240
range. Meanwhile, we're not achieving a

3102
02:17:22,240 --> 02:17:24,000
lot of the things that the mayor's been

3103
02:17:24,000 --> 02:17:25,920
asking for or the council's been asking

3104
02:17:25,920 --> 02:17:27,280
for. And that's what that lieutenant

3105
02:17:27,280 --> 02:17:28,639
would be focusing more.

3106
02:17:28,639 --> 02:17:30,319
A lot of R&D, research and development

3107
02:17:30,319 --> 02:17:31,840
on certain projects that we have. Again,

3108
02:17:31,840 --> 02:17:33,359
technology is changing so much within

3109
02:17:33,359 --> 02:17:34,880
law enforcement, what we can gather.

3110
02:17:34,880 --> 02:17:37,040
It's just kind of overwhelming for us

3111
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:41,589
nonIT people

3112
02:17:41,599 --> 02:17:43,439
and the mental health specialist. You

3113
02:17:43,439 --> 02:17:43,840
mentioned that

3114
02:17:43,840 --> 02:17:46,000
just for me.

3115
02:17:46,000 --> 02:17:49,200
Well, we all know that. Is this enough?

3116
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:51,120
No.

3117
02:17:51,120 --> 02:17:56,309
I add another one.

3118
02:17:56,319 --> 02:17:57,519
So you explain the roles and

3119
02:17:57,519 --> 02:17:59,200
responsibilities and it's not going to

3120
02:17:59,200 --> 02:18:01,599
be a sworn officer. Is that correct?

3121
02:18:01,599 --> 02:18:03,840
Right. Um so where will they be? Where

3122
02:18:03,840 --> 02:18:06,479
will they actually physically be located

3123
02:18:06,479 --> 02:18:07,280
in the police department?

3124
02:18:07,280 --> 02:18:08,479
They will be in the police department.

3125
02:18:08,479 --> 02:18:11,519
And so their role would be to if

3126
02:18:11,519 --> 02:18:14,319
something happened on site, they would

3127
02:18:14,319 --> 02:18:16,399
then go to

3128
02:18:16,399 --> 02:18:18,240
whatever the scene was. Is that it? or

3129
02:18:18,240 --> 02:18:20,639
would they go on all calls?

3130
02:18:20,639 --> 02:18:23,280
Yeah, we really what we found right now

3131
02:18:23,280 --> 02:18:26,160
is that we're not having a problem with

3132
02:18:26,160 --> 02:18:28,319
handling the scene. We're having a

3133
02:18:28,319 --> 02:18:30,080
problem with the followup with what

3134
02:18:30,080 --> 02:18:31,280
happens next.

3135
02:18:31,280 --> 02:18:31,599
Okay.

3136
02:18:31,599 --> 02:18:33,120
What do we do with them?

3137
02:18:33,120 --> 02:18:35,040
So, what we're looking to do and and

3138
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:36,960
Lieutenant Mashall can speak a lot more

3139
02:18:36,960 --> 02:18:38,719
intelligently on this than I can, but

3140
02:18:38,719 --> 02:18:40,719
we're looking to have somebody who

3141
02:18:40,719 --> 02:18:43,359
really is a case worker on our end that

3142
02:18:43,359 --> 02:18:45,120
when we ask, "Well, what happened with

3143
02:18:45,120 --> 02:18:47,120
this person?" They can say, "Oh, yeah.

3144
02:18:47,120 --> 02:18:49,920
Well, we referred them to City Mission

3145
02:18:49,920 --> 02:18:53,920
or Catholic Charities or New Choices and

3146
02:18:53,920 --> 02:18:55,120
you know they're working with them and

3147
02:18:55,120 --> 02:18:57,439
this is the contact there. So, so that

3148
02:18:57,439 --> 02:18:59,599
when we're going to a scene and we know

3149
02:18:59,599 --> 02:19:01,280
that they're there, we have the

3150
02:19:01,280 --> 02:19:02,800
appropriate

3151
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:06,160
um case to really dive into to say,

3152
02:19:06,160 --> 02:19:07,760
okay, well, what's going on with this

3153
02:19:07,760 --> 02:19:09,120
person? So, they don't just kind of

3154
02:19:09,120 --> 02:19:10,880
linger out in the community. We have a

3155
02:19:10,880 --> 02:19:13,040
couple good examples of followup that

3156
02:19:13,040 --> 02:19:16,319
Ryan and Nick did on individuals that

3157
02:19:16,319 --> 02:19:17,920
became success stories.

3158
02:19:17,920 --> 02:19:19,519
So, we're looking again to replicate

3159
02:19:19,519 --> 02:19:23,679
that with a civilian rather than sworn.

3160
02:19:23,679 --> 02:19:27,280
So, policing is a 24-hour day. And so,

3161
02:19:27,280 --> 02:19:29,120
this is clearly this person can't work

3162
02:19:29,120 --> 02:19:32,240
24 hours. So, how about how's how's it

3163
02:19:32,240 --> 02:19:36,000
cover the not 9 to5? It's outside of

3164
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:37,679
those times. We're hoping that if it's

3165
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:39,200
successful that we're here next year

3166
02:19:39,200 --> 02:19:42,000
asking for two more or or whatever the

3167
02:19:42,000 --> 02:19:43,760
whatever whatever we need, but yeah,

3168
02:19:43,760 --> 02:19:45,679
this would just be to get us started. We

3169
02:19:45,679 --> 02:19:47,760
recognize that there might be a need

3170
02:19:47,760 --> 02:19:51,359
24/7 that we need to fill.

3171
02:19:51,359 --> 02:19:53,120
We still have protocols in place to

3172
02:19:53,120 --> 02:19:56,000
refer the individual to a specific

3173
02:19:56,000 --> 02:19:57,760
assistant health. this will be a lot

3174
02:19:57,760 --> 02:19:59,680
more followup, a lot more but she

3175
02:19:59,680 --> 02:20:01,600
referred to a couple successful cases

3176
02:20:01,600 --> 02:20:03,359
that we had calls daily on some

3177
02:20:03,359 --> 02:20:04,960
individuals that we no longer have

3178
02:20:04,960 --> 02:20:06,560
because of we finally got them on the

3179
02:20:06,560 --> 02:20:08,080
right track. It took a long time to get

3180
02:20:08,080 --> 02:20:10,560
in there, but so we have a lot more we

3181
02:20:10,560 --> 02:20:11,920
deal with more mental health issues now

3182
02:20:11,920 --> 02:20:13,680
probably than ever. And so it's just to

3183
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:14,960
kind of really

3184
02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:16,800
I I'm not gonna say it's a band-aid on

3185
02:20:16,800 --> 02:20:18,640
everything, but at least it's a step in

3186
02:20:18,640 --> 02:20:20,640
the right direction to get them moving

3187
02:20:20,640 --> 02:20:22,240
in.

3188
02:20:22,240 --> 02:20:24,000
And it almost sounds like it's a tool

3189
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:27,280
for you. Correct. So that you know where

3190
02:20:27,280 --> 02:20:30,000
the individual is at all times. So it's

3191
02:20:30,000 --> 02:20:31,280
not like you're going to call on this

3192
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:32,720
mental health person at 2 in the

3193
02:20:32,720 --> 02:20:35,359
morning. um you're going to take your

3194
02:20:35,359 --> 02:20:37,280
action with how you've been working it

3195
02:20:37,280 --> 02:20:39,520
and then perhaps they do the followup

3196
02:20:39,520 --> 02:20:41,840
and let you know and keep eye on where

3197
02:20:41,840 --> 02:20:44,960
this individual is and how he or she's

3198
02:20:44,960 --> 02:20:45,760
progressing.

3199
02:20:45,760 --> 02:20:48,000
Exactly. It's a it's a resource for us

3200
02:20:48,000 --> 02:20:50,560
that helps coordinate, has more

3201
02:20:50,560 --> 02:20:52,319
knowledge about what to do. You know, we

3202
02:20:52,319 --> 02:20:54,160
we're good at deescalation, but we're

3203
02:20:54,160 --> 02:20:55,840
not very good with followup. That's

3204
02:20:55,840 --> 02:20:57,920
where the individuals that we bring in,

3205
02:20:57,920 --> 02:20:59,520
we know that they'll know how to follow

3206
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:01,920
up. For domestic violence, we run a

3207
02:21:01,920 --> 02:21:03,920
multi-is disciplinary team where we

3208
02:21:03,920 --> 02:21:05,520
bring all the players in a monthly

3209
02:21:05,520 --> 02:21:07,680
meeting and talk about the individuals

3210
02:21:07,680 --> 02:21:09,600
with the most needs. We'd like to do

3211
02:21:09,600 --> 02:21:12,399
that similar setup for for mental health

3212
02:21:12,399 --> 02:21:15,760
individuals so that you know again

3213
02:21:15,760 --> 02:21:17,120
they're not forgotten. They're spoken

3214
02:21:17,120 --> 02:21:19,040
about on a monthly basis and they get

3215
02:21:19,040 --> 02:21:20,800
the help that they need.

3216
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:22,800
Yeah. Um just a comment last year when

3217
02:21:22,800 --> 02:21:25,280
we were talking and this is Marty. we

3218
02:21:25,280 --> 02:21:28,640
were more um heavy conversation toward

3219
02:21:28,640 --> 02:21:30,640
consulting the mental health with an

3220
02:21:30,640 --> 02:21:32,720
established agency and I think that was

3221
02:21:32,720 --> 02:21:35,439
the heavy conversation towards last year

3222
02:21:35,439 --> 02:21:37,520
into this year. So I want to know what's

3223
02:21:37,520 --> 02:21:39,040
the difference between that? Are we not

3224
02:21:39,040 --> 02:21:40,319
doing that or we just going to

3225
02:21:40,319 --> 02:21:42,640
specialist? We still look for

3226
02:21:42,640 --> 02:21:44,880
partnerships with existing organizations

3227
02:21:44,880 --> 02:21:47,600
whether it's Ellis or other and some of

3228
02:21:47,600 --> 02:21:49,760
it is

3229
02:21:49,760 --> 02:21:52,000
what's appropriate for particular

3230
02:21:52,000 --> 02:21:55,680
individual but the reality is need some

3231
02:21:55,680 --> 02:21:58,399
of the staffing inhouse to be able to do

3232
02:21:58,399 --> 02:22:02,960
the evaluation the followup and

3233
02:22:02,960 --> 02:22:04,479
we'll call some of the appropriate

3234
02:22:04,479 --> 02:22:07,439
management uh between those

3235
02:22:07,439 --> 02:22:10,960
partnerships. No, exactly. That's

3236
02:22:10,960 --> 02:22:12,800
correct. But at the same point, I mean,

3237
02:22:12,800 --> 02:22:14,720
we can compliment by hiring someone, a

3238
02:22:14,720 --> 02:22:16,080
specialist in house, but at the same

3239
02:22:16,080 --> 02:22:18,240
time, we need to focus on consulting

3240
02:22:18,240 --> 02:22:20,640
some of these mental health or that

3241
02:22:20,640 --> 02:22:22,560
compliment the PD department by calling

3242
02:22:22,560 --> 02:22:24,560
in and getting help. But but there's no

3243
02:22:24,560 --> 02:22:28,000
way funded. So, I think we all can

3244
02:22:28,000 --> 02:22:29,760
sometimes depending what the local

3245
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:32,960
services, there's other areas where the

3246
02:22:32,960 --> 02:22:34,800
county would pay for it or other things

3247
02:22:34,800 --> 02:22:37,040
where it's not the responsibility of the

3248
02:22:37,040 --> 02:22:40,150
police department.

3249
02:22:40,160 --> 02:22:40,720
Please.

3250
02:22:40,720 --> 02:22:43,600
I was just wondering I I I think that um

3251
02:22:43,600 --> 02:22:46,160
do we not still have a contract with um

3252
02:22:46,160 --> 02:22:48,399
Northern Rivers or or some I think is

3253
02:22:48,399 --> 02:22:50,080
that what you're talking about? Yes, we

3254
02:22:50,080 --> 02:22:51,840
contract with and I think maybe it's

3255
02:22:51,840 --> 02:22:53,359
under fees for service, but I'm not

3256
02:22:53,359 --> 02:22:54,240
sure.

3257
02:22:54,240 --> 02:22:57,120
I was just assuming it was a bad word,

3258
02:22:57,120 --> 02:22:59,040
but

3259
02:22:59,040 --> 02:23:01,200
very much the

3260
02:23:01,200 --> 02:23:02,880
So, they are the contract that I think

3261
02:23:02,880 --> 02:23:05,760
you're referring to that um we still

3262
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:07,680
have. So if you need mental health

3263
02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:10,880
assistance, you call. So

3264
02:23:10,880 --> 02:23:11,680
247

3265
02:23:11,680 --> 02:23:13,920
correct statement.

3266
02:23:13,920 --> 02:23:15,439
They're one of the people we call one

3267
02:23:15,439 --> 02:23:17,860
get depends on the

3268
02:23:17,860 --> 02:23:19,439
[Music]

3269
02:23:19,439 --> 02:23:23,120
back pattern of individual circumstances

3270
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:24,319
and what line are they?

3271
02:23:24,319 --> 02:23:27,359
So if we have a consultant that they're

3272
02:23:27,359 --> 02:23:30,560
calling or group and what is the purpose

3273
02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:33,439
of the mental health specialist?

3274
02:23:33,439 --> 02:23:35,040
They're they're the coordinator. So if

3275
02:23:35,040 --> 02:23:38,000
you think of like a hub in Spokan where

3276
02:23:38,000 --> 02:23:40,399
this person will be the hub and then the

3277
02:23:40,399 --> 02:23:42,240
spokes are all our different resources.

3278
02:23:42,240 --> 02:23:44,560
Northern Rivers, Catholic Charities,

3279
02:23:44,560 --> 02:23:46,800
Ellis Hospital. One of the pro

3280
02:23:46,800 --> 02:23:49,040
challenges we've run into is Northern

3281
02:23:49,040 --> 02:23:50,960
Rivers are contracted with us and then

3282
02:23:50,960 --> 02:23:52,960
they run into a staffing shortage.

3283
02:23:52,960 --> 02:23:53,359
Yeah.

3284
02:23:53,359 --> 02:23:56,479
Ellis Hospital has has a place for

3285
02:23:56,479 --> 02:23:58,000
mental health and they'll call us up and

3286
02:23:58,000 --> 02:23:59,680
say they're shut down. Bring them to

3287
02:23:59,680 --> 02:24:01,280
Albony Med.

3288
02:24:01,280 --> 02:24:03,439
um they shut down their facility on

3289
02:24:03,439 --> 02:24:07,680
stage street for the children. So

3290
02:24:07,680 --> 02:24:09,439
having that administrative support to

3291
02:24:09,439 --> 02:24:11,280
say well where who are we calling today

3292
02:24:11,280 --> 02:24:13,680
for this you know it's just a lot and

3293
02:24:13,680 --> 02:24:15,439
Ryan and Nick are overwhelmed dealing

3294
02:24:15,439 --> 02:24:17,359
with everything else so this person

3295
02:24:17,359 --> 02:24:19,600
would be there for to support us and

3296
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:22,479
help help us really focus on

3297
02:24:22,479 --> 02:24:24,960
coordinating everything. So it seems

3298
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:28,319
like this I mean like this person is a

3299
02:24:28,319 --> 02:24:30,160
coordinator kind of a service navigator

3300
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:34,479
for um people um

3301
02:24:34,479 --> 02:24:37,680
would this person um

3302
02:24:37,680 --> 02:24:42,640
part of their job responsibility? Would they be expected to um show up to

3303
02:24:42,640 --> 02:24:45,200
a call to maybe where there's a need um

3304
02:24:45,200 --> 02:24:47,840
or you know there's some trouble dis uh

3305
02:24:47,840 --> 02:24:49,760
just escalating someone or deescalating

3306
02:24:49,760 --> 02:24:52,319
someone or things like that or would

3307
02:24:52,319 --> 02:24:54,640
that kind of just their sole purpose and

3308
02:24:54,640 --> 02:24:56,000
focus is just going to be resource

3309
02:24:56,000 --> 02:24:59,680
navigation and and coordinating pardon?

3310
02:24:59,680 --> 02:25:01,120
I don't think we have an answer for that

3311
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:03,600
yet. It depends on who we hire. Um it

3312
02:25:03,600 --> 02:25:04,960
would it would have to be a clinician

3313
02:25:04,960 --> 02:25:07,680
for us to send them to talk to somebody,

3314
02:25:07,680 --> 02:25:09,120
you know. So, we wouldn't want to limit

3315
02:25:09,120 --> 02:25:11,120
ourselves to say that we wouldn't hire

3316
02:25:11,120 --> 02:25:13,680
somebody and then use them possibly,

3317
02:25:13,680 --> 02:25:15,760
but we wouldn't want to say that that's

3318
02:25:15,760 --> 02:25:17,200
definitely the model and then not be

3319
02:25:17,200 --> 02:25:19,280
able to find that person and then sit

3320
02:25:19,280 --> 02:25:21,920
back and wait.

3321
02:25:21,920 --> 02:25:23,359
You know, we have domestic violence

3322
02:25:23,359 --> 02:25:24,800
advocates within our building that

3323
02:25:24,800 --> 02:25:26,560
actually have office space within our

3324
02:25:26,560 --> 02:25:28,560
building and allows the officers to go

3325
02:25:28,560 --> 02:25:30,000
and kind of pick their brains from time

3326
02:25:30,000 --> 02:25:33,760
to time. this this person also be that link up with the officers that they

3327
02:25:33,760 --> 02:25:35,439
can get that professional advice and

3328
02:25:35,439 --> 02:25:36,880
then handle the call maybe differently

3329
02:25:36,880 --> 02:25:39,280
or better suited to handle the call and

3330
02:25:39,280 --> 02:25:41,040
then the followup is is the work that

3331
02:25:41,040 --> 02:25:42,560
they're they would make sure that

3332
02:25:42,560 --> 02:25:44,240
person's receiving the services that

3333
02:25:44,240 --> 02:25:45,680
they need

3334
02:25:45,680 --> 02:25:49,280
I think if I just so I there's a clear

3335
02:25:49,280 --> 02:25:50,960
need for that that makes really good

3336
02:25:50,960 --> 02:25:53,920
sense to me I guess

3337
02:25:53,920 --> 02:25:55,600
then in my thought there might still be

3338
02:25:55,600 --> 02:25:58,800
kind of a bit of a void there for that

3339
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:02,640
person that can be onsite support in the

3340
02:26:02,640 --> 02:26:04,720
midst of a crisis, right? Like so I I

3341
02:26:04,720 --> 02:26:06,479
don't now the way I'm looking at this,

3342
02:26:06,479 --> 02:26:08,720
it seems like these are

3343
02:26:08,720 --> 02:26:11,359
two very different needs like one is

3344
02:26:11,359 --> 02:26:13,200
coordination, service navigation, that

3345
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:15,680
laid on between agencies and partnering

3346
02:26:15,680 --> 02:26:18,399
uh community partners. But what about

3347
02:26:18,399 --> 02:26:22,479
that in the- moment, you know, crisis

3348
02:26:22,479 --> 02:26:24,800
response mental health professional that

3349
02:26:24,800 --> 02:26:26,960
can

3350
02:26:26,960 --> 02:26:29,200
support officers, people like that.

3351
02:26:29,200 --> 02:26:30,319
going out on a call.

3352
02:26:30,319 --> 02:26:32,960
Yeah. Yeah.

3353
02:26:32,960 --> 02:26:34,080
That's something that we'd like to get

3354
02:26:34,080 --> 02:26:36,720
to at some point for sure.

3355
02:26:36,720 --> 02:26:39,439
I wouldn't northern do it now. That if

3356
02:26:39,439 --> 02:26:40,880
staff is available,

3357
02:26:40,880 --> 02:26:43,040
you know, to to assist with us. Again,

3358
02:26:43,040 --> 02:26:45,120
this is growing. This is going to grow

3359
02:26:45,120 --> 02:26:47,520
into I think almost its own unit at some

3360
02:26:47,520 --> 02:26:49,520
point. We just don't have the luxury of

3361
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:51,280
having someone from Northern Rivers into

3362
02:26:51,280 --> 02:26:53,200
our building right now that cannot kind

3363
02:26:53,200 --> 02:26:55,040
of foster this program and make it

3364
02:26:55,040 --> 02:26:56,560
better. So,

3365
02:26:56,560 --> 02:26:59,040
and Chief, you would say that that

3366
02:26:59,040 --> 02:27:00,399
It's something you like, but right now

3367
02:27:00,399 --> 02:27:02,240
that's not the pressing need is what

3368
02:27:02,240 --> 02:27:03,680
you're saying. So, okay.

3369
02:27:03,680 --> 02:27:05,040
Yeah. It's almost like we got to get the

3370
02:27:05,040 --> 02:27:07,120
program started. How do you walk before

3371
02:27:07,120 --> 02:27:08,560
you give up?

3372
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:11,680
And we're we're talking about what

3373
02:27:11,680 --> 02:27:14,080
happens in the city of Skenkity.

3374
02:27:14,080 --> 02:27:15,760
Again,

3375
02:27:15,760 --> 02:27:17,680
it's not just isolated here. It happens

3376
02:27:17,680 --> 02:27:20,399
in the towns, other communities. And so

3377
02:27:20,399 --> 02:27:23,600
some of this still has to be guided

3378
02:27:23,600 --> 02:27:27,520
through the dispatch center. When these

3379
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:29,840
calls are evaluated, how do you manage

3380
02:27:29,840 --> 02:27:31,600
it? How do you get the appropriate

3381
02:27:31,600 --> 02:27:34,319
resources

3382
02:27:34,319 --> 02:27:38,319
to the situation and best deal with it?

3383
02:27:38,319 --> 02:27:41,280
So my question is around there um will

3384
02:27:41,280 --> 02:27:43,600
this be an MSW or a CSW for that

3385
02:27:43,600 --> 02:27:46,560
position particularly?

3386
02:27:46,560 --> 02:27:48,399
But

3387
02:27:48,399 --> 02:27:51,040
we um we haven't decid we haven't made

3388
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:53,040
that decision yet. We were going to rely

3389
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:55,200
on the county to help guide us on what

3390
02:27:55,200 --> 02:27:57,120
the perfect person would requirements

3391
02:27:57,120 --> 02:27:59,760
would be. We might even look to the

3392
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:01,040
county, see if there's anybody who wants

3393
02:28:01,040 --> 02:28:05,920
to come work for us. But um yeah, if we

3394
02:28:05,920 --> 02:28:07,840
could get an NSW for sure, we'd like

3395
02:28:07,840 --> 02:28:09,520
that. I mean, I think the the higher the

3396
02:28:09,520 --> 02:28:11,200
standards, the better, but we wouldn't

3397
02:28:11,200 --> 02:28:13,439
want to limit ourselves to holding off

3398
02:28:13,439 --> 02:28:16,000
until we found somebody, especially with

3399
02:28:16,000 --> 02:28:18,399
what we budgeted, might not.

3400
02:28:18,399 --> 02:28:20,080
Yes, that's going to be that would

3401
02:28:20,080 --> 02:28:21,600
that's why I want to know. I mean, it's

3402
02:28:21,600 --> 02:28:22,640
important that you have the person that

3403
02:28:22,640 --> 02:28:24,880
has the best skill set for this, but

3404
02:28:24,880 --> 02:28:26,160
also you're going to have to put in a

3405
02:28:26,160 --> 02:28:27,600
salary that they're willing to come for

3406
02:28:27,600 --> 02:28:28,880
that. So,

3407
02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:31,280
I'm not sure that's it. If you want to

3408
02:28:31,280 --> 02:28:33,359
do so,

3409
02:28:33,359 --> 02:28:34,319
okay,

3410
02:28:34,319 --> 02:28:36,240
any other question? Go ahead, please. So

3411
02:28:36,240 --> 02:28:38,080
I think it's important to identify and

3412
02:28:38,080 --> 02:28:40,560
then I I appreciate you adding this line

3413
02:28:40,560 --> 02:28:42,800
and it's definitely very admirable. I

3414
02:28:42,800 --> 02:28:44,479
think for anyone listening and for those

3415
02:28:44,479 --> 02:28:47,040
that we carry this narrative to I think

3416
02:28:47,040 --> 02:28:50,880
it's important to highlight what this line is not and it's not the end

3417
02:28:50,880 --> 02:28:52,640
all solution like everyone recognizes

3418
02:28:52,640 --> 02:28:55,439
that it's the starting point. I would

3419
02:28:55,439 --> 02:28:57,359
say it's imperative to have a strategic

3420
02:28:57,359 --> 02:28:59,600
direction and I'm careful to tell you

3421
02:28:59,600 --> 02:29:01,120
what to do. You are the police chief

3422
02:29:01,120 --> 02:29:03,280
sir. But I think from the individuals

3423
02:29:03,280 --> 02:29:05,840
that I've heard in the community hearing

3424
02:29:05,840 --> 02:29:08,000
and seeing this in your budget is

3425
02:29:08,000 --> 02:29:10,160
amazing. But I think if everyone just

3426
02:29:10,160 --> 02:29:12,160
comes with a different expectation for

3427
02:29:12,160 --> 02:29:14,240
it, I think you can quickly overwhelm

3428
02:29:14,240 --> 02:29:15,920
any candidate that you put into this

3429
02:29:15,920 --> 02:29:17,520
because having the expectation of them

3430
02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:20,160
to manage case loads of officers in

3431
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:22,720
addition to potentially having to go on

3432
02:29:22,720 --> 02:29:24,640
calls, I think it sets someone up for

3433
02:29:24,640 --> 02:29:26,800
failure. So I would say regardless of

3434
02:29:26,800 --> 02:29:28,960
your intention for rolling this position

3435
02:29:28,960 --> 02:29:31,439
out, I would absolutely urge community

3436
02:29:31,439 --> 02:29:35,439
input, but definitely having a lane and

3437
02:29:35,439 --> 02:29:37,040
reassuring the community that this is

3438
02:29:37,040 --> 02:29:38,960
something that we are going to grow

3439
02:29:38,960 --> 02:29:42,000
whatever that you should so choose to.

3440
02:29:42,000 --> 02:29:44,640
That way people can understand how this

3441
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:46,240
is going to further develop like you

3442
02:29:46,240 --> 02:29:51,670
know

3443
02:29:51,680 --> 02:29:53,600
I agree.

3444
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:54,560
You have a question. Go ahead.

3445
02:29:54,560 --> 02:29:56,319
I do. Not about that though.

3446
02:29:56,319 --> 02:29:58,640
No, we'll try to go. Yeah. So, let's go

3447
02:29:58,640 --> 02:30:00,240
down. If we don't have anything else on

3448
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:01,920
the top part, let's go to the bottom of

3449
02:30:01,920 --> 02:30:03,680
that page. Page 17.

3450
02:30:03,680 --> 02:30:10,230
We're still on page one.

3451
02:30:10,240 --> 02:30:11,840
April 20.

3452
02:30:11,840 --> 02:30:16,000
My my question um is line a

3453
02:30:16,000 --> 02:30:18,160
312121

3454
02:30:18,160 --> 02:30:22,640
a part-time clerk part-time at 104. No,

3455
02:30:22,640 --> 02:30:24,960
that that position represents five

3456
02:30:24,960 --> 02:30:26,240
different positions within um

3457
02:30:26,240 --> 02:30:28,240
Well, there's no number there.

3458
02:30:28,240 --> 02:30:30,720
No, I realize that. Um these are

3459
02:30:30,720 --> 02:30:31,920
positions that we actually have some

3460
02:30:31,920 --> 02:30:34,880
retired police officers that's been

3461
02:30:34,880 --> 02:30:36,160
so that's fine.

3462
02:30:36,160 --> 02:30:37,840
Budget in pre previous years if you look

3463
02:30:37,840 --> 02:30:40,000
at the full-time PDM it's just down to

3464
02:30:40,000 --> 02:30:42,240
the timeline.

3465
02:30:42,240 --> 02:30:49,359
Um yes, they do like they'll do um um

3466
02:30:49,359 --> 02:30:50,720
I have their names here if you need

3467
02:30:50,720 --> 02:30:53,040
them, but They basically work, you know,

3468
02:30:53,040 --> 02:30:55,520
15 to 20 hours a week for us.

3469
02:30:55,520 --> 02:30:57,200
I was just wondering, it didn't have any

3470
02:30:57,200 --> 02:30:59,600
numbers, so I put I put one there and

3471
02:30:59,600 --> 02:31:02,000
that was just like crossing crossing

3472
02:31:02,000 --> 02:31:03,280
bars. We don't put numbers in there for

3473
02:31:03,280 --> 02:31:04,880
the crossing.

3474
02:31:04,880 --> 02:31:08,319
Well, the reason is nothing have 17 in

3475
02:31:08,319 --> 02:31:10,080
there and we want 18, but we're not

3476
02:31:10,080 --> 02:31:13,840
increasing the pain. It's it's um finance because

3477
02:31:13,840 --> 02:31:14,560
it's a tough time

3478
02:31:14,560 --> 02:31:17,760
and it says singular. It said clerks. It

3479
02:31:17,760 --> 02:31:18,960
would lead me to believe there more, but

3480
02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:22,070
it says clerk singular.

3481
02:31:22,080 --> 02:31:26,950
Okay. Bye.

3482
02:31:26,960 --> 02:31:37,270
Any question on this part? Next page 80.

3483
02:31:37,280 --> 02:31:39,840
Um, Miss Patrick,

3484
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:40,880
I think

3485
02:31:40,880 --> 02:31:41,840
item down.

3486
02:31:41,840 --> 02:31:44,319
Yeah, I think it's

3487
02:31:44,319 --> 02:31:46,560
that we talked about

3488
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:49,520
in a minute. Um, aren't I on the next

3489
02:31:49,520 --> 02:31:49,920
page?

3490
02:31:49,920 --> 02:31:53,670
Yes, page 18120

3491
02:31:53,680 --> 02:31:54,160
for

3492
02:31:54,160 --> 02:31:56,080
I thought that was on page 19. But wait

3493
02:31:56,080 --> 02:31:57,280
a minute, let me see.

3494
02:31:57,280 --> 02:31:59,439
Oh, yeah. No, the um ARPA was just one

3495
02:31:59,439 --> 02:32:01,040
big question that um

3496
02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:03,840
No, I was just referring the $6,000 that

3497
02:32:03,840 --> 02:32:05,840
she had at his disposal for the

3498
02:32:05,840 --> 02:32:06,880
community events.

3499
02:32:06,880 --> 02:32:07,840
Oh, I'm sorry.

3500
02:32:07,840 --> 02:32:09,520
$500

3501
02:32:09,520 --> 02:32:10,720
per event.

3502
02:32:10,720 --> 02:32:13,840
Where is it? I'm sorry, Mr. M.

3503
02:32:13,840 --> 02:32:16,319
Oh, yes. Yep. Yep. Yep. Yep.

3504
02:32:16,319 --> 02:32:17,680
the I see. Yep.

3505
02:32:17,680 --> 02:32:19,120
And it's separate from the 25.

3506
02:32:19,120 --> 02:32:20,240
Oh, I see. I see what you're saying.

3507
02:32:20,240 --> 02:32:20,560
Yep.

3508
02:32:20,560 --> 02:32:22,160
So, we did that separate so they have

3509
02:32:22,160 --> 02:32:24,080
that that data disposal to spend that.

3510
02:32:24,080 --> 02:32:27,280
Gotcha. Rather than lock it into

3511
02:32:27,280 --> 02:32:29,280
somebody think that it's so high.

3512
02:32:29,280 --> 02:32:29,920
Gotcha.

3513
02:32:29,920 --> 02:32:31,600
So, we separated.

3514
02:32:31,600 --> 02:32:34,080
Okay. Thank you for that, Claire.

3515
02:32:34,080 --> 02:32:35,280
Chief, I'm going to ask you the same

3516
02:32:35,280 --> 02:32:37,040
thing here that I asked you public

3517
02:32:37,040 --> 02:32:39,280
safety foundation. Can you give us an

3518
02:32:39,280 --> 02:32:41,760
update what is happening there and where

3519
02:32:41,760 --> 02:32:44,800
are you with that?

3520
02:32:44,800 --> 02:32:47,200
Yeah, we've been uh you know, part of

3521
02:32:47,200 --> 02:32:50,080
the part of our philosophy here was was

3522
02:32:50,080 --> 02:32:52,319
to uh to get our community engagement

3523
02:32:52,319 --> 02:32:53,920
officers in the schools in place, which

3524
02:32:53,920 --> 02:32:57,680
we did successfully. And I I've tasked

3525
02:32:57,680 --> 02:33:00,080
uh I originally tasked Sergeant Lineer.

3526
02:33:00,080 --> 02:33:01,920
Now I've tasked Sergeant Plow with

3527
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:04,080
really taking the lead on helping to

3528
02:33:04,080 --> 02:33:06,319
build this out. One of the things that

3529
02:33:06,319 --> 02:33:09,120
we did with it, um, again, wasn't as

3530
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:10,319
early in the year like I would have

3531
02:33:10,319 --> 02:33:12,160
liked to, but we got the program started

3532
02:33:12,160 --> 02:33:15,040
later in the year, is we we partnered

3533
02:33:15,040 --> 02:33:18,080
with Will Rivas to put on the summerlong

3534
02:33:18,080 --> 02:33:20,640
uh, athletic program. Started off with a

3535
02:33:20,640 --> 02:33:22,080
discussion about helping us with summer

3536
02:33:22,080 --> 02:33:29,120
night. It turned into a month of August um, event. and um you

3537
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:31,120
know and we we plan on doing more

3538
02:33:31,120 --> 02:33:33,680
throughout the fall and in the winter

3539
02:33:33,680 --> 02:33:35,920
and then turning the corner into the new

3540
02:33:35,920 --> 02:33:37,439
year. We wanted we've already been

3541
02:33:37,439 --> 02:33:40,640
talking about um

3542
02:33:40,640 --> 02:33:42,640
program that the DEA puts on with

3543
02:33:42,640 --> 02:33:44,960
basketball possibly with the Boys and

3544
02:33:44,960 --> 02:33:47,680
Girls Club Friday night basketball and

3545
02:33:47,680 --> 02:33:50,319
just doing things indoors like we did in

3546
02:33:50,319 --> 02:33:52,479
August. So, that's that's what our plan

3547
02:33:52,479 --> 02:33:56,240
is. And I didn't want to jump on uh Chief

3548
02:33:56,240 --> 02:34:00,160
Marino's um defense too much, but a

3549
02:34:00,160 --> 02:34:02,240
little flustered, but he he was a part

3550
02:34:02,240 --> 02:34:04,160
of the conversation about the August

3551
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:07,120
plan. We we technically did talk about

3552
02:34:07,120 --> 02:34:08,960
splitting the cost of it, but we never

3553
02:34:08,960 --> 02:34:10,640
did.

3554
02:34:10,640 --> 02:34:11,920
Well, he has a budget.

3555
02:34:11,920 --> 02:34:14,000
He's got a budget. So, you should.

3556
02:34:14,000 --> 02:34:17,520
Um but we you know, the other thing is that although we have the budget,

3557
02:34:17,520 --> 02:34:20,710
which

3558
02:34:20,720 --> 02:34:26,160
these the budgets that you give us the the ability to say yes to

3559
02:34:26,160 --> 02:34:28,560
things, but we're still asking for for

3560
02:34:28,560 --> 02:34:30,399
donations. So that's what we did in

3561
02:34:30,399 --> 02:34:32,960
August. And so we said yes knowing that

3562
02:34:32,960 --> 02:34:35,280
yeah, it might cost us 12,000, but then

3563
02:34:35,280 --> 02:34:36,880
we got a whole bunch of donations. So it

3564
02:34:36,880 --> 02:34:39,120
really only cost us half of that, maybe

3565
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:41,280
a little bit less. So it's given us the

3566
02:34:41,280 --> 02:34:43,439
ability to say yes to more, still ask

3567
02:34:43,439 --> 02:34:47,359
for donations and stretch this 25 31,000

3568
02:34:47,359 --> 02:34:50,240
out as far as we can do. So, so based on

3569
02:34:50,240 --> 02:34:53,200
your your projection of entering here

3570
02:34:53,200 --> 02:34:55,520
with the this foundation and engaging

3571
02:34:55,520 --> 02:34:57,280
the community with all these different

3572
02:34:57,280 --> 02:35:00,479
scores, do you think 25,000 is adequate

3573
02:35:00,479 --> 02:35:06,150
for your department?

3574
02:35:06,160 --> 02:35:08,080
I'd say yes right now only because we we

3575
02:35:08,080 --> 02:35:12,080
do um um fund it also with some private

3576
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:13,280
stuff for that. Yeah. So, we kind of

3577
02:35:13,280 --> 02:35:15,280
married the two in the budget line

3578
02:35:15,280 --> 02:35:16,720
worlds. We're just doing more and more.

3579
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:18,399
We got a slow start this year and that's

3580
02:35:18,399 --> 02:35:20,640
what happened. So I can't say um we

3581
02:35:20,640 --> 02:35:22,720
could use more. It always seems like you

3582
02:35:22,720 --> 02:35:24,240
could by on the same token we got to

3583
02:35:24,240 --> 02:35:26,479
manage what we have right now before um

3584
02:35:26,479 --> 02:35:28,080
we can kind of grow just like some of

3585
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:30,399
the programs we're talking here. We're

3586
02:35:30,399 --> 02:35:32,720
doing um scarcity you know we're going

3587
02:35:32,720 --> 02:35:35,439
to buy some stuff for that goes around

3588
02:35:35,439 --> 02:35:38,880
participate. I run a couple

3589
02:35:38,880 --> 02:35:41,120
very fun.

3590
02:35:41,120 --> 02:35:43,280
We followed you guys

3591
02:35:43,280 --> 02:35:44,319
on the transfinder

3592
02:35:44,319 --> 02:35:45,120
from place to place.

3593
02:35:45,120 --> 02:35:46,640
The reason why I asked the question

3594
02:35:46,640 --> 02:35:48,319
because you're putting all this effort

3595
02:35:48,319 --> 02:35:50,160
into this program. If you don't have the

3596
02:35:50,160 --> 02:35:52,160
funding, then it become useless to your

3597
02:35:52,160 --> 02:35:54,960
department and wasting your time. So if

3598
02:35:54,960 --> 02:35:57,200
we, you know, if we look at it and if

3599
02:35:57,200 --> 02:35:58,640
there's additional funding, you should

3600
02:35:58,640 --> 02:36:00,240
let us know and we can set aside

3601
02:36:00,240 --> 02:36:01,840
additional funding so that you can carry

3602
02:36:01,840 --> 02:36:03,200
this program successfully.

3603
02:36:03,200 --> 02:36:04,720
We're just going to make sure fire

3604
02:36:04,720 --> 02:36:06,479
department.

3605
02:36:06,479 --> 02:36:06,800
What?

3606
02:36:06,800 --> 02:36:07,920
We're going to build the fire department

3607
02:36:07,920 --> 02:36:11,750
at 50%.

3608
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:14,560
He won't make eye contact with us.

3609
02:36:14,560 --> 02:36:16,560
I will just ask the mayor to just press

3610
02:36:16,560 --> 02:36:19,040
one.

3611
02:36:19,040 --> 02:36:23,120
All right, that's any question.

3612
02:36:23,120 --> 02:36:30,230
Any additional question on page 18?

3613
02:36:30,240 --> 02:36:33,359
Cool. Go ahead. So, um I'm looking here

3614
02:36:33,359 --> 02:36:36,560
at the anti-racism training. Um, is that

3615
02:36:36,560 --> 02:36:39,520
a one-time training or is we looking to

3616
02:36:39,520 --> 02:36:43,520
do that for every officer? And there's,

3617
02:36:43,520 --> 02:36:47,200
you know, going to be some

3618
02:36:47,200 --> 02:36:49,120
the um the conversations we've been

3619
02:36:49,120 --> 02:36:51,520
having so far have revolved around

3620
02:36:51,520 --> 02:36:53,920
bringing it in for for an immediate

3621
02:36:53,920 --> 02:36:56,960
eight hour training with having followup

3622
02:36:56,960 --> 02:36:58,800
refreshers every year, four hour

3623
02:36:58,800 --> 02:37:00,880
refreshers. That's kind of what we do

3624
02:37:00,880 --> 02:37:02,800
for all our other trainings. And then

3625
02:37:02,800 --> 02:37:04,640
I'm also I'm the president of the

3626
02:37:04,640 --> 02:37:06,640
academy. I've been having discussions

3627
02:37:06,640 --> 02:37:08,640
about bringing into the police academy

3628
02:37:08,640 --> 02:37:10,080
so that way we know when they come out

3629
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:12,080
of the academy we've had this training

3630
02:37:12,080 --> 02:37:13,840
so then they could just do the

3631
02:37:13,840 --> 02:37:15,920
refreshers. So that that's that's the

3632
02:37:15,920 --> 02:37:17,680
that's where we're going right now with

3633
02:37:17,680 --> 02:37:22,560
it and we um

3634
02:37:22,560 --> 02:37:30,000
we're very close to saying we have our our vendor that's going to do it. We

3635
02:37:30,000 --> 02:37:32,720
had conversation uh two days ago

3636
02:37:32,720 --> 02:37:35,600
tomorrow we were in that meeting um we

3637
02:37:35,600 --> 02:37:38,240
have about the the Underground Railroad

3638
02:37:38,240 --> 02:37:41,040
putting it on. So I have my training

3639
02:37:41,040 --> 02:37:45,680
sergeant following up with them and we don't even we don't even know numbers

3640
02:37:45,680 --> 02:37:49,359
yet. This is the uh the this is a number

3641
02:37:49,359 --> 02:37:53,439
that we had on a proposal that um we

3642
02:37:53,439 --> 02:37:56,399
felt that if we had to go with that

3643
02:37:56,399 --> 02:37:58,000
would have been only a one time thing.

3644
02:37:58,000 --> 02:37:59,600
So, we're hoping that this money

3645
02:37:59,600 --> 02:38:01,840
actually we pay less for the Underground

3646
02:38:01,840 --> 02:38:03,920
Railroad that we have the ability for

3647
02:38:03,920 --> 02:38:06,800
the refreshers. Also, I'm thinking that

3648
02:38:06,800 --> 02:38:09,600
on having someone

3649
02:38:09,600 --> 02:38:12,479
in house um to kind of like do some, you

3650
02:38:12,479 --> 02:38:14,319
know, as these trainings and stuff grow

3651
02:38:14,319 --> 02:38:16,399
growing, you know, there's

3652
02:38:16,399 --> 02:38:19,280
programs that you can kind of train

3653
02:38:19,280 --> 02:38:22,960
people um to do some turnkey stuff as

3654
02:38:22,960 --> 02:38:26,319
well. um that might you know cut the

3655
02:38:26,319 --> 02:38:28,960
cost but maintain um actually increase

3656
02:38:28,960 --> 02:38:32,640
the uh efficiency and sustainability of

3657
02:38:32,640 --> 02:38:33,840
that kind of that that

3658
02:38:33,840 --> 02:38:35,520
training trainer type of thing.

3659
02:38:35,520 --> 02:38:39,200
Yeah. Trainer trainers and I think

3660
02:38:39,200 --> 02:38:40,800
suggestion just due to the nature of the

3661
02:38:40,800 --> 02:38:43,040
training that it is facilitated by you

3662
02:38:43,040 --> 02:38:46,000
know someone outside but you have those

3663
02:38:46,000 --> 02:38:48,319
people inside that act as the support

3664
02:38:48,319 --> 02:38:50,000
roles and can kind of run some of those

3665
02:38:50,000 --> 02:38:54,080
professors throughout the year.

3666
02:38:54,080 --> 02:38:56,319
again new program, you know, trying to

3667
02:38:56,319 --> 02:38:58,160
grow it out. It's just trying to get our

3668
02:38:58,160 --> 02:39:00,000
hands around to begin with is sometimes

3669
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:02,560
hard to first step.

3670
02:39:02,560 --> 02:39:06,160
Chief, um I guess we a couple of us

3671
02:39:06,160 --> 02:39:07,840
intended the training that you that you

3672
02:39:07,840 --> 02:39:10,880
invited us to down into zone 5 where

3673
02:39:10,880 --> 02:39:12,800
they had actually implicit bias training

3674
02:39:12,800 --> 02:39:14,720
as part of that. Is that something

3675
02:39:14,720 --> 02:39:17,040
that's continually ongoing as new

3676
02:39:17,040 --> 02:39:18,640
recruits are coming through zone five or

3677
02:39:18,640 --> 02:39:20,240
does that was just

3678
02:39:20,240 --> 02:39:22,080
that that training is done in zone five.

3679
02:39:22,080 --> 02:39:24,000
procedural justice and we have

3680
02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:25,760
procedural justice one, two and three

3681
02:39:25,760 --> 02:39:28,720
and I believe procedural justice three

3682
02:39:28,720 --> 02:39:31,680
is the implicit bias training that

3683
02:39:31,680 --> 02:39:32,640
okay

3684
02:39:32,640 --> 02:39:36,399
so that is ongoing it starts at the academy

3685
02:39:36,399 --> 02:39:37,040
on

3686
02:39:37,040 --> 02:39:39,359
that's what I thought going to be% thank

3687
02:39:39,359 --> 02:39:42,240
you

3688
02:39:42,240 --> 02:39:46,720
question for the mayor may come dispatch

3689
02:39:46,720 --> 02:39:48,880
I know I'm hold on this here what we

3690
02:39:48,880 --> 02:39:52,000
supposed to say on this country dispatch

3691
02:39:52,000 --> 02:39:56,790
Where is that?

3692
02:39:56,800 --> 02:39:59,200
404C4

3693
02:39:59,200 --> 02:40:01,760
Conte dispatch. Are we supposed to be

3694
02:40:01,760 --> 02:40:03,600
saving rather than spending more money

3695
02:40:03,600 --> 02:40:06,319
on this?

3696
02:40:06,319 --> 02:40:07,920
1.991

3697
02:40:07,920 --> 02:40:09,439
mil

3698
02:40:09,439 --> 02:40:11,520
18 almost at a top.

3699
02:40:11,520 --> 02:40:14,080
It's 3120 404 state.

3700
02:40:14,080 --> 02:40:15,760
I think some of that for they just

3701
02:40:15,760 --> 02:40:17,200
settled new contract. I think part of

3702
02:40:17,200 --> 02:40:19,200
that is a new contract that they had a

3703
02:40:19,200 --> 02:40:21,280
lot of vacancies within the county. I

3704
02:40:21,280 --> 02:40:23,280
don't want to speak for them, but

3705
02:40:23,280 --> 02:40:27,110
there's a

3706
02:40:27,120 --> 02:40:29,520
signed a contract

3707
02:40:29,520 --> 02:40:32,800
uh that gave payraises and other things.

3708
02:40:32,800 --> 02:40:35,520
It just becomes the ability to recruit

3709
02:40:35,520 --> 02:40:39,280
and retain qualified employees.

3710
02:40:39,280 --> 02:40:41,760
And

3711
02:40:41,760 --> 02:40:43,520
I still believe that we are saving money

3712
02:40:43,520 --> 02:40:46,160
and providing better service having the

3713
02:40:46,160 --> 02:40:51,349
Consolidated dispatch

3714
02:40:51,359 --> 02:40:54,880
question any question chief can you have

3715
02:40:54,880 --> 02:40:58,240
all of it maintain

3716
02:40:58,240 --> 02:41:04,790
I don't see your hand

3717
02:41:04,800 --> 02:41:07,280
you put on this

3718
02:41:07,280 --> 02:41:08,319
go ahead right

3719
02:41:08,319 --> 02:41:09,920
chief I had a question about the

3720
02:41:09,920 --> 02:41:14,070
maintenance contracts a3

3721
02:41:14,080 --> 02:41:16,240
uh almost double Do you have like an

3722
02:41:16,240 --> 02:41:17,920
explanation?

3723
02:41:17,920 --> 02:41:19,520
I can explain this one. Last year when

3724
02:41:19,520 --> 02:41:22,160
we did it, um

3725
02:41:22,160 --> 02:41:26,560
it got reduced more than we intended. We I I had actually transfer money to

3726
02:41:26,560 --> 02:41:28,720
this line this year up to upwards almost

3727
02:41:28,720 --> 02:41:30,960
$100,000 90 some thousand dollar to

3728
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:34,560
cover the cost. This 265 is is we have a

3729
02:41:34,560 --> 02:41:36,319
um you know our administrative expense

3730
02:41:36,319 --> 02:41:38,000
sheet that we actually probably justify

3731
02:41:38,000 --> 02:41:39,760
a lot of these fines and and these are

3732
02:41:39,760 --> 02:41:41,280
pretty much hard numbers but maintenance

3733
02:41:41,280 --> 02:41:43,200
agreements have been going up. And again

3734
02:41:43,200 --> 02:41:44,880
the technology we talked about before

3735
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:47,760
this is all different fees for licensing

3736
02:41:47,760 --> 02:41:49,359
fees for maintenance agreements on

3737
02:41:49,359 --> 02:41:52,240
certain softwares and um unfortunately

3738
02:41:52,240 --> 02:41:54,960
it was just very under budget in 2022.

3739
02:41:54,960 --> 02:41:56,640
So we did transfer money we live within

3740
02:41:56,640 --> 02:41:58,800
our budget here but it just um this is

3741
02:41:58,800 --> 02:42:03,670
just make a more accurate number.

3742
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:07,359
Any other question on this?

3743
02:42:07,359 --> 02:42:11,439
Oh okay. Yeah that's

3744
02:42:11,439 --> 02:42:14,240
so you have officers

3745
02:42:14,240 --> 02:42:15,760
um

3746
02:42:15,760 --> 02:42:18,080
with funding go through ARA. So that

3747
02:42:18,080 --> 02:42:19,600
again you know relates to my question

3748
02:42:19,600 --> 02:42:21,200
what do we do?

3749
02:42:21,200 --> 02:42:24,720
It's the same I think same answer right

3750
02:42:24,720 --> 02:42:26,240
I think it's for Anthony but

3751
02:42:26,240 --> 02:42:28,640
for quote yes our proportion of the

3752
02:42:28,640 --> 02:42:29,359
inspector

3753
02:42:29,359 --> 02:42:33,040
no I'm talking about 833 100 except one

3754
02:42:33,040 --> 02:42:34,560
officers 10

3755
02:42:34,560 --> 02:42:38,399
oh yeah oh yeah those are

3756
02:42:38,399 --> 02:42:41,120
10 officers those are the 10 officers

3757
02:42:41,120 --> 02:42:43,520
coming uh

3758
02:42:43,520 --> 02:42:46,080
from these are the 10 officers that were

3759
02:42:46,080 --> 02:42:47,760
filling positions.

3760
02:42:47,760 --> 02:42:49,920
Yeah. This is just replacement, you

3761
02:42:49,920 --> 02:42:52,479
know, the co care when we went down

3762
02:42:52,479 --> 02:42:54,160
retirements and so forth that ARPA

3763
02:42:54,160 --> 02:42:57,280
allows us to replace under the rules. Um

3764
02:42:57,280 --> 02:43:00,319
I I think the question is how that's the

3765
02:43:00,319 --> 02:43:01,600
question is the question is what happens

3766
02:43:01,600 --> 02:43:04,080
after no and we're aware of that and

3767
02:43:04,080 --> 02:43:05,439
conscious of it. You know, from a police

3768
02:43:05,439 --> 02:43:06,640
department, it's a little hard. We're

3769
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:08,319
not in a revenue making business, but I

3770
02:43:08,319 --> 02:43:10,800
do think Anthony spoke about before our

3771
02:43:10,800 --> 02:43:13,840
revenues have said steady increase I

3772
02:43:13,840 --> 02:43:15,200
think are going to go further. We've

3773
02:43:15,200 --> 02:43:16,640
taken on some initiatives within our

3774
02:43:16,640 --> 02:43:18,319
traffic division for instance just over

3775
02:43:18,319 --> 02:43:20,880
the past few months and and generated um

3776
02:43:20,880 --> 02:43:22,720
probably another

3777
02:43:22,720 --> 02:43:25,840
50 or 60% of of fine tickets and this is

3778
02:43:25,840 --> 02:43:27,680
gain compliance, you know, and that

3779
02:43:27,680 --> 02:43:30,000
we're we're hitting our heavy accent

3780
02:43:30,000 --> 02:43:31,760
areas within the city and writing more

3781
02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:34,000
tickets. Um and the cause is the reason

3782
02:43:34,000 --> 02:43:35,359
we're doing it is not for the fine

3783
02:43:35,359 --> 02:43:37,920
portion of it but for the um try to

3784
02:43:37,920 --> 02:43:40,000
reduce accidents but at the same portion

3785
02:43:40,000 --> 02:43:42,240
same time there's a benefit as far as

3786
02:43:42,240 --> 02:43:44,720
revenues coming you know they get

3787
02:43:44,720 --> 02:43:46,000
tickets and so forth

3788
02:43:46,000 --> 02:43:48,399
and want gain compliance but um there's

3789
02:43:48,399 --> 02:43:49,439
other things within there we're

3790
02:43:49,439 --> 02:43:50,800
constantly looking for grant monies you

3791
02:43:50,800 --> 02:43:52,319
know with through federal governments

3792
02:43:52,319 --> 02:43:53,680
and stuff and we've been very very

3793
02:43:53,680 --> 02:43:55,520
successful over the years but I'm hoping

3794
02:43:55,520 --> 02:43:57,760
some eventually we can make that pitch

3795
02:43:57,760 --> 02:43:58,640
as well.

3796
02:43:58,640 --> 02:44:00,080
And again, this goes with the fire

3797
02:44:00,080 --> 02:44:02,560
department. They're so uh under man,

3798
02:44:02,560 --> 02:44:04,399
this is actually just bring them up to

3799
02:44:04,399 --> 02:44:07,040
where they were prior. And then you'll

3800
02:44:07,040 --> 02:44:08,880
see in the next two years, they'll be at

3801
02:44:08,880 --> 02:44:10,560
that number. They would not be getting

3802
02:44:10,560 --> 02:44:12,720
10 15 guys a year, you know, going

3803
02:44:12,720 --> 02:44:14,960
through the cate going down about,

3804
02:44:14,960 --> 02:44:16,720
excuse me, down to four or three or

3805
02:44:16,720 --> 02:44:19,040
whatever.

3806
02:44:19,040 --> 02:44:20,319
It's not the number that I'm concerned

3807
02:44:20,319 --> 02:44:22,479
about. It's just like now that we had

3808
02:44:22,479 --> 02:44:23,279
10. Yeah.

3809
02:44:23,279 --> 02:44:26,240
And then our money is no more.

3810
02:44:26,240 --> 02:44:28,000
How will we continue to pay

3811
02:44:28,000 --> 02:44:30,000
if we can maintain a steady number? Our

3812
02:44:30,000 --> 02:44:31,680
problem is we just had over the past

3813
02:44:31,680 --> 02:44:33,200
couple years a lot of retirements. What

3814
02:44:33,200 --> 02:44:34,960
I'm getting at is the overtime lines.

3815
02:44:34,960 --> 02:44:36,800
The only the only real areas that we can

3816
02:44:36,800 --> 02:44:38,240
kind of save. Okay. How can we save

3817
02:44:38,240 --> 02:44:40,560
money? I think if we see Phil if we get

3818
02:44:40,560 --> 02:44:42,640
the 167 we're always playing catchup in

3819
02:44:42,640 --> 02:44:43,920
police department and it creates

3820
02:44:43,920 --> 02:44:45,920
overtime and it's just a compounding

3821
02:44:45,920 --> 02:44:47,920
factor. Got a good point. If we can if

3822
02:44:47,920 --> 02:44:49,600
we can get these true numbers up here

3823
02:44:49,600 --> 02:44:52,399
and have that stability of of officers

3824
02:44:52,399 --> 02:44:54,479
stay and not leave one particular year,

3825
02:44:54,479 --> 02:44:55,840
you I think we'll see reduction in the

3826
02:44:55,840 --> 02:44:58,080
overtime. Um but that's really kind of

3827
02:44:58,080 --> 02:44:59,600
where we have to attack internally. It's

3828
02:44:59,600 --> 02:45:01,359
hard for us to attack externally say we

3829
02:45:01,359 --> 02:45:03,040
can raise funds this way because that's

3830
02:45:03,040 --> 02:45:09,190
not our our you know task or mission.

3831
02:45:09,200 --> 02:45:11,600
Yeah. More manpower be less officers

3832
02:45:11,600 --> 02:45:13,200
working overtime and so forth.

3833
02:45:13,200 --> 02:45:14,720
That makes sense. That kind of leads me

3834
02:45:14,720 --> 02:45:16,000
to the other question because I did ask

3835
02:45:16,000 --> 02:45:17,439
why is there more of the time with more

3836
02:45:17,439 --> 02:45:18,880
office?

3837
02:45:18,880 --> 02:45:22,240
Yeah, if I can recall last year

3838
02:45:22,240 --> 02:45:24,000
vacancies.

3839
02:45:24,000 --> 02:45:26,080
I'm sorry. Sorry. If I can recall last

3840
02:45:26,080 --> 02:45:29,760
year when we were hiring new officers

3841
02:45:29,760 --> 02:45:31,760
into this year, you had mentioned to us

3842
02:45:31,760 --> 02:45:34,080
that by hiring these new officer will

3843
02:45:34,080 --> 02:45:36,560
technically reduce over time. But if you

3844
02:45:36,560 --> 02:45:40,000
look on page 19, overtime is going up on

3845
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:44,790
this line by A3122112.

3846
02:45:44,800 --> 02:45:45,840
Mhm.

3847
02:45:45,840 --> 02:45:47,920
Over time is going up despite the fact

3848
02:45:47,920 --> 02:45:51,600
that we're hiring our about approved

3849
02:45:51,600 --> 02:45:54,479
additional officers by 400,000.

3850
02:45:54,479 --> 02:45:57,359
No, it's not really

3851
02:45:57,359 --> 02:45:59,840
down from 2021.

3852
02:45:59,840 --> 02:46:01,439
You got to combine the two overtime.

3853
02:46:01,439 --> 02:46:02,000
They are money.

3854
02:46:02,000 --> 02:46:03,439
No, I'm talking about comparing last

3855
02:46:03,439 --> 02:46:06,319
year's budget. So this year I'm hiring

3856
02:46:06,319 --> 02:46:07,279
me officers.

3857
02:46:07,279 --> 02:46:09,279
Well, at the end of this year when you

3858
02:46:09,279 --> 02:46:10,800
see what actual expenses, they don't

3859
02:46:10,800 --> 02:46:13,680
understand.

3860
02:46:13,680 --> 02:46:16,160
So my thing is that

3861
02:46:16,160 --> 02:46:18,319
no trying to get a more realistic

3862
02:46:18,319 --> 02:46:18,880
budget.

3863
02:46:18,880 --> 02:46:21,359
Yeah.

3864
02:46:21,359 --> 02:46:23,359
What happens is, you know, we had a

3865
02:46:23,359 --> 02:46:25,680
large large amount of retirements last

3866
02:46:25,680 --> 02:46:27,439
year. Like we we took a big impact

3867
02:46:27,439 --> 02:46:29,520
budget wise from our our buyouts. you

3868
02:46:29,520 --> 02:46:30,960
know, 20 years ago when the contract was

3869
02:46:30,960 --> 02:46:32,640
signed to have take away unwilling the

3870
02:46:32,640 --> 02:46:34,160
sick time, which, you know, was really a

3871
02:46:34,160 --> 02:46:35,920
good thing because Officer Shmore, they

3872
02:46:35,920 --> 02:46:37,200
finally hit that 20 year mark where now

3873
02:46:37,200 --> 02:46:39,359
they start retiring. We have to uh pay

3874
02:46:39,359 --> 02:46:41,520
them out. We increased some of those

3875
02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:44,720
lines this year um through the through

3876
02:46:44,720 --> 02:46:46,960
the unused sick time, unused vacation

3877
02:46:46,960 --> 02:46:49,920
time, but we actually paid

3878
02:46:49,920 --> 02:46:51,439
almost three times as much as we had

3879
02:46:51,439 --> 02:46:55,040
budgeted um within this 2022 budget. 200

3880
02:46:55,040 --> 02:46:56,720
people that retired this year.

3881
02:46:56,720 --> 02:46:58,399
We think it's caught up to itself now.

3882
02:46:58,399 --> 02:47:00,160
We're not have you know as many

3883
02:47:00,160 --> 02:47:01,600
retirements next year. we just happen to

3884
02:47:01,600 --> 02:47:03,200
have a plateau where a number of people

3885
02:47:03,200 --> 02:47:06,720
at 20 plus years and um that drives your

3886
02:47:06,720 --> 02:47:09,279
overtime though again factor if we don't

3887
02:47:09,279 --> 02:47:10,319
have the officers now we have a lot of

3888
02:47:10,319 --> 02:47:11,760
officers in the academy graduating

3889
02:47:11,760 --> 02:47:13,520
academy we had two academy classes going

3890
02:47:13,520 --> 02:47:15,520
on at once hiring I mean there there's a

3891
02:47:15,520 --> 02:47:17,600
lot of she referred to numbers with

3892
02:47:17,600 --> 02:47:20,080
people on military leave people on um

3893
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:22,560
other other medical workers comp and

3894
02:47:22,560 --> 02:47:24,000
stuff our workers comp numbers are

3895
02:47:24,000 --> 02:47:25,680
actually very manageable now I really

3896
02:47:25,680 --> 02:47:27,040
kind of proud the officers as far as

3897
02:47:27,040 --> 02:47:28,479
we've really kind of brought those in as

3898
02:47:28,479 --> 02:47:31,040
far as work comps and 207c's officer

3899
02:47:31,040 --> 02:47:32,560
related injuries, but every time an

3900
02:47:32,560 --> 02:47:34,240
officer goes down, it compounds over

3901
02:47:34,240 --> 02:47:36,160
times and that's kind of really

3902
02:47:36,160 --> 02:47:37,920
unfortunately that we're attacking it,

3903
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:40,080
but it just it's a there's a lot of

3904
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:41,840
angles, a lot of fingers that touch it.

3905
02:47:41,840 --> 02:47:45,349
So,

3906
02:47:45,359 --> 02:47:47,359
it's not that we raised it, just being

3907
02:47:47,359 --> 02:47:48,000
more realistic.

3908
02:47:48,000 --> 02:47:49,520
No, no, I understand I understand the

3909
02:47:49,520 --> 02:47:51,359
whole concept of it, but it's just that

3910
02:47:51,359 --> 02:47:53,680
um you know, the whole talk was last

3911
02:47:53,680 --> 02:47:55,920
year this year was hire more officer

3912
02:47:55,920 --> 02:47:57,680
reducing over time, but we're not seeing

3913
02:47:57,680 --> 02:47:59,600
any savings. So if that was what I'm

3914
02:47:59,600 --> 02:48:01,359
trying to get because even even though

3915
02:48:01,359 --> 02:48:04,160
our to's higher, we haven't we're we're

3916
02:48:04,160 --> 02:48:06,160
10 we're down 10 now. We just haven't

3917
02:48:06,160 --> 02:48:07,439
been able to close that gap.

3918
02:48:07,439 --> 02:48:09,920
That's what I was man That's what I was

3919
02:48:09,920 --> 02:48:12,800
wondering though. Even though we said we

3920
02:48:12,800 --> 02:48:15,040
increased the number of officers, did we

3921
02:48:15,040 --> 02:48:16,640
actually fill all those spots?

3922
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:18,640
There's still right now there's nine

3923
02:48:18,640 --> 02:48:20,080
there's four that come off the training

3924
02:48:20,080 --> 02:48:22,080
this week and there's still 13 from the

3925
02:48:22,080 --> 02:48:24,000
training. So we we did hire some but

3926
02:48:24,000 --> 02:48:26,240
they don't count as yet. So

3927
02:48:26,240 --> 02:48:27,359
and then when you take that number, we

3928
02:48:27,359 --> 02:48:30,000
have 154 active officers right now

3929
02:48:30,000 --> 02:48:32,960
payroll budget for 164 basically. So

3930
02:48:32,960 --> 02:48:34,479
we're actually here, but then the the

3931
02:48:34,479 --> 02:48:36,319
eight or so he just spoke about are not

3932
02:48:36,319 --> 02:48:38,160
considered staffing yet. So they again

3933
02:48:38,160 --> 02:48:39,520
these numbers it gets very confusing.

3934
02:48:39,520 --> 02:48:40,800
So it wouldn't affect the overtime I

3935
02:48:40,800 --> 02:48:42,960
guess in terms of what Mr. Mutar is

3936
02:48:42,960 --> 02:48:45,920
asking about not yet full-fledged

3937
02:48:45,920 --> 02:48:47,120
officers and then over time would go

3938
02:48:47,120 --> 02:48:49,600
down because then we have that staff.

3939
02:48:49,600 --> 02:48:52,640
Yeah, want to see that

3940
02:48:52,640 --> 02:48:53,279
happen

3941
02:48:53,279 --> 02:48:54,960
just from a mathematical equation when

3942
02:48:54,960 --> 02:48:56,800
this chief said it does it does our

3943
02:48:56,800 --> 02:49:01,520
staffing can stay up consistently at our our table organization then yes that

3944
02:49:01,520 --> 02:49:03,120
number would be driven down because you

3945
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:05,760
have certain amount of manh hours being

3946
02:49:05,760 --> 02:49:07,200
deployed within the police department

3947
02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:08,800
but when you drop that number it

3948
02:49:08,800 --> 02:49:11,439
compounds it compounds over time

3949
02:49:11,439 --> 02:49:13,680
if I'm saying it right

3950
02:49:13,680 --> 02:49:16,880
the contract of the PBA is up December

3951
02:49:16,880 --> 02:49:18,800
31st

3952
02:49:18,800 --> 02:49:20,800
So, you're going to adopt a budget, but

3953
02:49:20,800 --> 02:49:23,120
I some point come back to you and say

3954
02:49:23,120 --> 02:49:24,560
you're going to have to amend it.

3955
02:49:24,560 --> 02:49:32,150
Yeah. All right. I had a question on um

3956
02:49:32,160 --> 02:49:33,760
No, my question got answered.

3957
02:49:33,760 --> 02:49:36,080
There's an item here for 92. Oh, sorry.

3958
02:49:36,080 --> 02:49:41,429
It's 8312212-085.

3959
02:49:41,439 --> 02:49:43,439
I think it's it's intense that they're

3960
02:49:43,439 --> 02:49:46,560
working with the fire department.

3961
02:49:46,560 --> 02:49:47,920
That thing that Dr.

3962
02:49:47,920 --> 02:49:49,760
Yeah. hidden in that column. What is it

3963
02:49:49,760 --> 02:49:50,880
actually?

3964
02:49:50,880 --> 02:49:54,710
It's

3965
02:49:54,720 --> 02:50:01,190
that what Chief Marino was talking. Yes.

3966
02:50:01,200 --> 02:50:01,600
Okay.

3967
02:50:01,600 --> 02:50:04,479
One thing also I can say in that with

3968
02:50:04,479 --> 02:50:05,920
the tactical medical we're trying to

3969
02:50:05,920 --> 02:50:08,000
there's not an accreditation for SWAT

3970
02:50:08,000 --> 02:50:09,120
teams. There's what they call

3971
02:50:09,120 --> 02:50:11,120
certification or SWAT team

3972
02:50:11,120 --> 02:50:13,439
certification. Um, one of the

3973
02:50:13,439 --> 02:50:15,439
requirements is to have a a medical

3974
02:50:15,439 --> 02:50:20,640
personnel staff on all all call outs for the tactical team. We're very close

3975
02:50:20,640 --> 02:50:22,560
to receiving that certification. And the

3976
02:50:22,560 --> 02:50:27,600
reason I bring it up now is is this is a summing point that we've had to not

3977
02:50:27,600 --> 02:50:29,520
receive it. Once we get that in place, I

3978
02:50:29,520 --> 02:50:30,960
believe everything will be up to speed

3979
02:50:30,960 --> 02:50:32,800
on on getting the certification. With

3980
02:50:32,800 --> 02:50:34,399
that certification, it allows us to

3981
02:50:34,399 --> 02:50:36,240
apply for certain grants. We can't apply

3982
02:50:36,240 --> 02:50:37,840
for them until we have a certification.

3983
02:50:37,840 --> 02:50:39,840
So as as weird as it may sound, so that

3984
02:50:39,840 --> 02:50:41,439
will actually be funding behind this

3985
02:50:41,439 --> 02:50:43,439
money um as soon as we get the

3986
02:50:43,439 --> 02:50:44,479
certification every year they have a

3987
02:50:44,479 --> 02:50:46,560
couple grants that come out that for

3988
02:50:46,560 --> 02:50:49,279
certified um tactical teams that can

3989
02:50:49,279 --> 02:50:52,000
only apply. So

3990
02:50:52,000 --> 02:50:54,240
I'll make sure I call chief to remind

3991
02:50:54,240 --> 02:50:57,590
them.

3992
02:50:57,600 --> 02:50:59,920
All right. And any question on this?

3993
02:50:59,920 --> 02:51:01,680
Yeah, just one quick question on

3994
02:51:01,680 --> 02:51:04,160
A3122121.

3995
02:51:04,160 --> 02:51:06,640
Um the what's what's the special police

3996
02:51:06,640 --> 02:51:07,760
officer?

3997
02:51:07,760 --> 02:51:09,359
What's the roles of responsibility?

3998
02:51:09,359 --> 02:51:11,359
There's one downstairs. They're the ones

3999
02:51:11,359 --> 02:51:14,000
there's the ones walk they have a title

4000
02:51:14,000 --> 02:51:15,520
of civil service title special police

4001
02:51:15,520 --> 02:51:17,439
officer. Okay. And it comes they have to

4002
02:51:17,439 --> 02:51:19,200
have so much year as a law enforcement

4003
02:51:19,200 --> 02:51:21,040
officer I believe three years. There's

4004
02:51:21,040 --> 02:51:23,040
some criteria that they have but it also

4005
02:51:23,040 --> 02:51:24,640
gives them almost like a peace officer

4006
02:51:24,640 --> 02:51:26,560
status. It's not quite peace officer but

4007
02:51:26,560 --> 02:51:28,720
so so that's why we have special

4008
02:51:28,720 --> 02:51:29,359
officers.

4009
02:51:29,359 --> 02:51:30,240
All right. Thank you.

4010
02:51:30,240 --> 02:51:31,840
And they all worked with us before so

4011
02:51:31,840 --> 02:51:36,790
they're kind of special to us.

4012
02:51:36,800 --> 02:51:40,160
You're putting yourself in trouble

4013
02:51:40,160 --> 02:51:41,840
for crossing guard. So we're looking to

4014
02:51:41,840 --> 02:51:44,479
raise their their salaries to $17 an

4015
02:51:44,479 --> 02:51:46,240
hour right now.

4016
02:51:46,240 --> 02:51:46,800
Nice.

4017
02:51:46,800 --> 02:51:47,200
Yeah.

4018
02:51:47,200 --> 02:51:49,760
That way we can try, you know, attract

4019
02:51:49,760 --> 02:51:52,880
more people that have our police force.

4020
02:51:52,880 --> 02:51:55,680
So our parking guys do the crossing.

4021
02:51:55,680 --> 02:51:58,160
Yeah, we've been um crossing guard

4022
02:51:58,160 --> 02:52:00,319
program. It's it's

4023
02:52:00,319 --> 02:52:02,720
hours out many hours a day. We're having

4024
02:52:02,720 --> 02:52:04,800
some trouble getting up the staff. I

4025
02:52:04,800 --> 02:52:06,160
mean, we're doing pretty good right now.

4026
02:52:06,160 --> 02:52:08,160
I believe we're recently.

4027
02:52:08,160 --> 02:52:10,080
Yeah, we're getting there. But we still

4028
02:52:10,080 --> 02:52:11,359
have the incentive that they show up so

4029
02:52:11,359 --> 02:52:17,190
many times they get that little bonus.

4030
02:52:17,200 --> 02:52:30,070
Okay, let's move to page 20.

4031
02:52:30,080 --> 02:52:32,160
Chief, can you just explain? Does

4032
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:35,920
anybody have a crime analyst supervisor?

4033
02:52:35,920 --> 02:52:39,279
That is from 16,000 to 96,000.

4034
02:52:39,279 --> 02:52:40,240
That was my

4035
02:52:40,240 --> 02:52:41,920
That's a crime analyst.

4036
02:52:41,920 --> 02:52:42,399
Yes.

4037
02:52:42,399 --> 02:52:45,040
You want to explain that to the county?

4038
02:52:45,040 --> 02:52:46,560
Oh,

4039
02:52:46,560 --> 02:52:50,720
the county was um before now that's

4040
02:52:50,720 --> 02:52:52,319
met Douglas and she's coming over. He's

4041
02:52:52,319 --> 02:52:53,600
going to be the supervisor of the

4042
02:52:53,600 --> 02:52:56,880
analysts. We moved they were paying for

4043
02:52:56,880 --> 02:52:58,479
a portion of them and now we have to pay

4044
02:52:58,479 --> 02:52:59,520
for the full portion.

4045
02:52:59,520 --> 02:53:01,120
Yeah. some of some of it paid for with

4046
02:53:01,120 --> 02:53:03,040
grant funding also through GIF which

4047
02:53:03,040 --> 02:53:05,760
this is still give if you look at I know

4048
02:53:05,760 --> 02:53:07,920
Anthony said our budget um request is

4049
02:53:07,920 --> 02:53:12,319
$600 some um additional 661,000 but we

4050
02:53:12,319 --> 02:53:15,680
also raised our revenues by 336,000

4051
02:53:15,680 --> 02:53:18,240
I believe but with that with that some

4052
02:53:18,240 --> 02:53:19,439
of the give money was placed in there

4053
02:53:19,439 --> 02:53:21,520
our give money was up and so that just

4054
02:53:21,520 --> 02:53:23,040
kind of offsets some of these these

4055
02:53:23,040 --> 02:53:28,710
numbers that you see here

4056
02:53:28,720 --> 02:53:31,359
that that was my

4057
02:53:31,359 --> 02:53:36,090
Yeah, I just went up.

4058
02:53:36,100 --> 02:53:40,309
[Music]

4059
02:53:40,319 --> 02:53:43,520
We probably all caught that one.

4060
02:53:43,520 --> 02:53:47,120
Yeah. Any question on page 20?

4061
02:53:47,120 --> 02:53:48,960
No.

4062
02:53:48,960 --> 02:53:52,560
Oh, sorry.

4063
02:53:52,560 --> 02:53:55,200
Could you uh explain to you what CMYK

4064
02:53:55,200 --> 02:53:57,520
refers to?

4065
02:53:57,520 --> 02:53:59,200
I can if you want. It's just that's for

4066
02:53:59,200 --> 02:54:01,200
our detectives. Um Oh,

4067
02:54:01,200 --> 02:54:03,600
we'll line you on here. Um 115.

4068
02:54:03,600 --> 02:54:08,000
Yes, 115. We we have uh um every week

4069
02:54:08,000 --> 02:54:10,479
and on weekends detectives on call and

4070
02:54:10,479 --> 02:54:12,000
then they get on standby pay. It's

4071
02:54:12,000 --> 02:54:15,920
basically equivalent of three hours of straight time or overtime, I can't

4072
02:54:15,920 --> 02:54:17,760
remember. Um so if you do the

4073
02:54:17,760 --> 02:54:19,040
calculations, I can get you the

4074
02:54:19,040 --> 02:54:21,760
calculations. Um it's 52 weeks a year.

4075
02:54:21,760 --> 02:54:23,520
We have to pay I believe it's three

4076
02:54:23,520 --> 02:54:25,120
hours Monday through Friday and there's

4077
02:54:25,120 --> 02:54:26,960
three hours for weekends and that's just

4078
02:54:26,960 --> 02:54:35,269
a they're mandated to come in. So it's that's

4079
02:54:35,279 --> 02:54:36,640
any other question please go ahead.

4080
02:54:36,640 --> 02:54:38,560
So for court court overtime that's just

4081
02:54:38,560 --> 02:54:40,000
when officers have to go to court

4082
02:54:40,000 --> 02:54:42,080
testify or

4083
02:54:42,080 --> 02:54:44,479
correct. Yeah, we we've seen a drop in

4084
02:54:44,479 --> 02:54:46,640
that over the past since co um and

4085
02:54:46,640 --> 02:54:48,560
there's lot don't know if that's going

4086
02:54:48,560 --> 02:54:50,560
to go up at some point but we can't

4087
02:54:50,560 --> 02:54:51,920
forecast it right now is going up for

4088
02:54:51,920 --> 02:54:53,920
next year they don't

4089
02:54:53,920 --> 02:54:55,520
the reality is it's probably going to

4090
02:54:55,520 --> 02:54:56,720
move up

4091
02:54:56,720 --> 02:55:00,319
this is just hard to forecast this year

4092
02:55:00,319 --> 02:55:05,110
we could justify raising it

4093
02:55:05,120 --> 02:55:08,790
any other questionable

4094
02:55:08,800 --> 02:55:10,319
please

4095
02:55:10,319 --> 02:55:11,920
no

4096
02:55:11,920 --> 02:55:14,800
That's good. So we have one item on this

4097
02:55:14,800 --> 02:55:18,630
page invest.

4098
02:55:18,640 --> 02:55:21,120
Any other question on this? I think we

4099
02:55:21,120 --> 02:55:21,520
have

4100
02:55:21,520 --> 02:55:24,399
lead program or lead attorney

4101
02:55:24,399 --> 02:55:27,990
lead program.

4102
02:55:28,000 --> 02:55:35,279
The lead program uh is it's it's

4103
02:55:35,279 --> 02:55:37,279
going to happen. It hasn't started yet.

4104
02:55:37,279 --> 02:55:39,600
So we had the funding last year that we

4105
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:41,840
have not even sent over yet. and we made

4106
02:55:41,840 --> 02:55:43,520
a decision that we were going to send

4107
02:55:43,520 --> 02:55:46,160
the money to the county,

4108
02:55:46,160 --> 02:55:48,560
let them run to have a contract before

4109
02:55:48,560 --> 02:55:49,439
we do that,

4110
02:55:49,439 --> 02:55:51,120
but we we kind of said that we don't

4111
02:55:51,120 --> 02:55:53,120
need to fund it for next year because

4112
02:55:53,120 --> 02:55:55,680
last year's funding wasn't used yet. So

4113
02:55:55,680 --> 02:55:58,080
then we we'll have to see how the

4114
02:55:58,080 --> 02:56:03,429
program runs for the 2024.

4115
02:56:03,439 --> 02:56:05,439
So our plan is if we don't get a

4116
02:56:05,439 --> 02:56:06,880
contract, we're going to income the

4117
02:56:06,880 --> 02:56:10,319
money so that we can hold it and move

4118
02:56:10,319 --> 02:56:12,160
it. going forward

4119
02:56:12,160 --> 02:56:14,000
and I think we'll probably have

4120
02:56:14,000 --> 02:56:15,600
something in place by the end of the

4121
02:56:15,600 --> 02:56:18,960
year. The numbers will work

4122
02:56:18,960 --> 02:56:24,710
with what's there or pretty close.

4123
02:56:24,720 --> 02:56:25,840
I think Go ahead.

4124
02:56:25,840 --> 02:56:27,760
Well, just one final question about the

4125
02:56:27,760 --> 02:56:31,520
Axon, the officer safety plan. So, um

4126
02:56:31,520 --> 02:56:33,439
that I know that there's no no money

4127
02:56:33,439 --> 02:56:35,359
here because I know it's paid for. So,

4128
02:56:35,359 --> 02:56:36,720
that would we talked about the body

4129
02:56:36,720 --> 02:56:38,560
warning cameras because I thought I saw

4130
02:56:38,560 --> 02:56:40,240
a cost in here, but I can't find it now.

4131
02:56:40,240 --> 02:56:42,399
body cameras.

4132
02:56:42,399 --> 02:56:46,080
So capital.

4133
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:48,960
So um I thought my understanding was

4134
02:56:48,960 --> 02:56:50,880
this covered those and so I'm I'm not

4135
02:56:50,880 --> 02:56:52,880
really understanding why I'm seeing it

4136
02:56:52,880 --> 02:56:55,040
additional

4137
02:56:55,040 --> 02:56:58,160
threeear plan. This is the third year

4138
02:56:58,160 --> 02:57:01,269
capital

4139
02:57:01,279 --> 02:57:04,160
again capital but yes

4140
02:57:04,160 --> 02:57:05,920
but the capital that's not just funding

4141
02:57:05,920 --> 02:57:08,160
it says by kind of funds all the

4142
02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:09,359
computers within the department we

4143
02:57:09,359 --> 02:57:11,920
replace a lot of older I know the fire

4144
02:57:11,920 --> 02:57:14,080
chief's talking about all those cars 17

4145
02:57:14,080 --> 02:57:16,319
year old cars we have a lot of computers

4146
02:57:16,319 --> 02:57:18,080
10 11 years old just outdated with non

4147
02:57:18,080 --> 02:57:20,720
detective division stuff so we two years

4148
02:57:20,720 --> 02:57:22,160
ago we had a three-year plan this is the

4149
02:57:22,160 --> 02:57:23,680
final year of that three year plan so

4150
02:57:23,680 --> 02:57:26,000
it's not just body

4151
02:57:26,000 --> 02:57:27,520
infrastructure as far as IT and

4152
02:57:27,520 --> 02:57:29,279
computers are concerned. That's not

4153
02:57:29,279 --> 02:57:32,000
the will pay for a portion of Axon.

4154
02:57:32,000 --> 02:57:33,520
Yeah. And we'll pay for it.

4155
02:57:33,520 --> 02:57:36,640
Yeah. Well, yes. The first we have the

4156
02:57:36,640 --> 02:57:38,319
funding right now for first couple years

4157
02:57:38,319 --> 02:57:41,520
as we talked for Axon program

4158
02:57:41,520 --> 02:57:43,760
because my understanding was that the

4159
02:57:43,760 --> 02:57:45,840
Axon program can't use the existing body

4160
02:57:45,840 --> 02:57:47,120
cameras that you have now. So that's why

4161
02:57:47,120 --> 02:57:49,359
I was wondering why we're paying.

4162
02:57:49,359 --> 02:57:52,240
Yeah. No, no, no. We can get into that

4163
02:57:52,240 --> 02:57:53,359
just by waiting until we get the

4164
02:57:53,359 --> 02:57:53,760
capital.

4165
02:57:53,760 --> 02:57:56,080
Okay. All right.

4166
02:57:56,080 --> 02:58:00,230
Thank you.

4167
02:58:00,240 --> 02:58:04,720
We're going to have animal control.

4168
02:58:04,720 --> 02:58:08,560
So, we'll just go to page 30.

4169
02:58:08,560 --> 02:58:12,110
Animal control and we'll complete.

4170
02:58:12,110 --> 02:58:17,750
[Music]

4171
02:58:17,760 --> 02:58:25,030
Yes.

4172
02:58:25,040 --> 02:58:25,680
Go ahead.

4173
02:58:25,680 --> 02:58:28,800
Um fees for service

4174
02:58:28,800 --> 02:58:30,479
55,000. I just didn't know.

4175
02:58:30,479 --> 02:58:32,479
Yes. So we we contracted with Mohawk

4176
02:58:32,479 --> 02:58:34,319
Hudson last year.

4177
02:58:34,319 --> 02:58:36,399
Um so now

4178
02:58:36,399 --> 02:58:39,359
we are getting we before we we were

4179
02:58:39,359 --> 02:58:41,439
housing the dogs on street

4180
02:58:41,439 --> 02:58:43,680
down there and after a certain amount of

4181
02:58:43,680 --> 02:58:45,040
time we would have to try to find homes

4182
02:58:45,040 --> 02:58:46,479
for the dogs. We have to try to leave.

4183
02:58:46,479 --> 02:58:49,279
Now I think I was go to W Hudson. They

4184
02:58:49,279 --> 02:58:52,080
care for them. They they walked several

4185
02:58:52,080 --> 02:58:54,560
times a day that there's a a lot of good

4186
02:58:54,560 --> 02:58:56,560
stuff they're doing. So,

4187
02:58:56,560 --> 02:58:58,960
and just so you know, the the fees were

4188
02:58:58,960 --> 02:59:00,399
escalating every month. So, we had a

4189
02:59:00,399 --> 02:59:02,160
series of meeting Mohawk Hudson and

4190
02:59:02,160 --> 02:59:03,680
obviously they're the professionals in

4191
02:59:03,680 --> 02:59:05,439
the business. And then we uh came in

4192
02:59:05,439 --> 02:59:07,760
with a number monthly. So, no matter how

4193
02:59:07,760 --> 02:59:10,080
many animal dogs we bring there, it's a

4194
02:59:10,080 --> 02:59:11,840
lot. Doesn't matter how many days they

4195
02:59:11,840 --> 02:59:13,840
stay. We've been running problems with

4196
02:59:13,840 --> 02:59:16,160
um animals that were assigned because of

4197
02:59:16,160 --> 02:59:17,520
courts. We couldn't lease them for

4198
02:59:17,520 --> 02:59:19,200
months and months and months and we just

4199
02:59:19,200 --> 02:59:21,200
can't house them at our at our facility

4200
02:59:21,200 --> 02:59:22,640
down here. We still use this as like an

4201
02:59:22,640 --> 02:59:25,520
emergency holding area for 24 hours, but

4202
02:59:25,520 --> 02:59:26,960
something that we can give them the dogs

4203
02:59:26,960 --> 02:59:29,840
and also the dogs are more likely to be

4204
02:59:29,840 --> 02:59:31,279
adopted. Yeah.

4205
02:59:31,279 --> 02:59:32,399
And cared for

4206
02:59:32,399 --> 02:59:34,319
better.

4207
02:59:34,319 --> 02:59:36,880
Do we have these two position filled?

4208
02:59:36,880 --> 02:59:40,000
One is filled, one is not.

4209
02:59:40,000 --> 02:59:43,279
We are looking for one. We've uh we had

4210
02:59:43,279 --> 02:59:45,920
some interviews and I had some people

4211
02:59:45,920 --> 02:59:51,359
not show up for interviews. So, but we are currently looking for one.

4212
02:59:51,359 --> 02:59:52,240
Go ahead, please.

4213
02:59:52,240 --> 02:59:54,880
And I know that they're not available on

4214
02:59:54,880 --> 02:59:56,240
weekends.

4215
02:59:56,240 --> 02:59:59,760
So, right now she's off um s Sundays and

4216
02:59:59,760 --> 03:00:00,160
Mondays.

4217
03:00:00,160 --> 03:00:01,120
Oh, Sundays and Mondays.

4218
03:00:01,120 --> 03:00:02,800
Yeah. So, she works Tuesday or Saturday.

4219
03:00:02,800 --> 03:00:03,120
Currently,

4220
03:00:03,120 --> 03:00:05,040
I've had to call different times and

4221
03:00:05,040 --> 03:00:06,640
they're not available and we just kind

4222
03:00:06,640 --> 03:00:09,040
of hold on to the animal. So, Monday.

4223
03:00:09,040 --> 03:00:11,600
Yes. So with the other um once we hire

4224
03:00:11,600 --> 03:00:16,640
you stagger the hours schedule so that

4225
03:00:16,640 --> 03:00:19,830
gets

4226
03:00:19,840 --> 03:00:22,960
take the job.

4227
03:00:22,960 --> 03:00:25,120
Is that a flat amount that we pay

4228
03:00:25,120 --> 03:00:26,800
regardless? It's not like if we go over

4229
03:00:26,800 --> 03:00:29,439
so many dogs then we got to pay a little

4230
03:00:29,439 --> 03:00:34,800
extra. Okay. What happens we saw it over 20 end of 2021 beginning in 2022 it

4231
03:00:34,800 --> 03:00:36,560
just keep on escalating and we were

4232
03:00:36,560 --> 03:00:37,920
working with them very closely just

4233
03:00:37,920 --> 03:00:41,920
because dog care became a task you know

4234
03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:43,920
and especially without not many

4235
03:00:43,920 --> 03:00:45,840
accomplishers

4236
03:00:45,840 --> 03:00:47,279
so we had a series of meetings with them

4237
03:00:47,279 --> 03:00:49,520
just to help them refine it help us out

4238
03:00:49,520 --> 03:00:51,840
and then uh we really did this as a

4239
03:00:51,840 --> 03:00:54,319
budget saver and because our cost kept

4240
03:00:54,319 --> 03:00:57,279
on escalating to well over

4241
03:00:57,279 --> 03:00:58,640
but now we have no worry we can bring

4242
03:00:58,640 --> 03:01:00,800
them out there more often we have on um

4243
03:01:00,800 --> 03:01:02,800
if there's dog needs care with another

4244
03:01:02,800 --> 03:01:05,040
vet, we have a a cap on how much they

4245
03:01:05,040 --> 03:01:07,840
can do before we you know um have to

4246
03:01:07,840 --> 03:01:09,040
give the okay, you know, because

4247
03:01:09,040 --> 03:01:10,720
sometimes animals come in very wounded

4248
03:01:10,720 --> 03:01:12,479
and we have to make that termination.

4249
03:01:12,479 --> 03:01:15,120
So, just it's very complicated, but from

4250
03:01:15,120 --> 03:01:16,560
a budget standpoint, I'll speak to a

4251
03:01:16,560 --> 03:01:18,399
budget standpoint more for it just make

4252
03:01:18,399 --> 03:01:20,479
budget sense that a contract even though

4253
03:01:20,479 --> 03:01:24,000
it's it's high, it's a lot of money, but in the long run, I think it's a a

4254
03:01:24,000 --> 03:01:25,920
great benefit to the animals in in the

4255
03:01:25,920 --> 03:01:29,120
city. It's a fair deal

4256
03:01:29,120 --> 03:01:31,279
at all cost and doing some stuff. You

4257
03:01:31,279 --> 03:01:34,479
know, Sam Kirkoff's working on the

4258
03:01:34,479 --> 03:01:36,720
licensing side. So, it's again promoting

4259
03:01:36,720 --> 03:01:41,359
the proper care and ownership of

4260
03:01:41,359 --> 03:01:42,720
animals,

4261
03:01:42,720 --> 03:01:45,279
but does the the clerk's office also do

4262
03:01:45,279 --> 03:01:47,040
the redemption side,

4263
03:01:47,040 --> 03:01:47,520
right?

4264
03:01:47,520 --> 03:01:51,520
So, but there's no there's no revenue

4265
03:01:51,520 --> 03:01:53,760
that's generated as a result of that.

4266
03:01:53,760 --> 03:01:56,080
There's Yeah. on the redemption.

4267
03:01:56,080 --> 03:01:57,920
If there's a line to know what

4268
03:01:57,920 --> 03:02:00,800
redemption what you need

4269
03:02:00,800 --> 03:02:03,200
for signing on to take your dog in

4270
03:02:03,200 --> 03:02:06,950
custody for something.

4271
03:02:06,960 --> 03:02:09,600
So the answer is we are there isn't

4272
03:02:09,600 --> 03:02:10,880
revenue that goes to the clerk's office

4273
03:02:10,880 --> 03:02:11,520
for that.

4274
03:02:11,520 --> 03:02:12,880
There is a minimal at this point.

4275
03:02:12,880 --> 03:02:14,800
Well, it goes into

4276
03:02:14,800 --> 03:02:16,560
the revenue

4277
03:02:16,560 --> 03:02:18,880
if if you look at if you look at

4278
03:02:18,880 --> 03:02:20,640
but it goes Yeah, but it goes into I'm

4279
03:02:20,640 --> 03:02:22,800
saying does it go like directly to the

4280
03:02:22,800 --> 03:02:24,240
clerk's budget? I understand goes in

4281
03:02:24,240 --> 03:02:25,200
general fund.

4282
03:02:25,200 --> 03:02:27,600
No, it goes well

4283
03:02:27,600 --> 03:02:29,439
everything goes into the general fund

4284
03:02:29,439 --> 03:02:31,120
and then it's allocated back out to the

4285
03:02:31,120 --> 03:02:32,960
park. There's not

4286
03:02:32,960 --> 03:02:34,800
anything there's a revenue line item for

4287
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:37,040
it. Um the one of the issues that we

4288
03:02:37,040 --> 03:02:38,640
have right now is especially now with

4289
03:02:38,640 --> 03:02:40,080
this contract that we have a monthly

4290
03:02:40,080 --> 03:02:41,920
fee. How do we determine what the cost

4291
03:02:41,920 --> 03:02:43,120
is? So we're working with the

4292
03:02:43,120 --> 03:02:44,880
corporation council to try and probably

4293
03:02:44,880 --> 03:02:46,160
come to our city council with another

4294
03:02:46,160 --> 03:02:48,880
proposal of setting fees um for how long

4295
03:02:48,880 --> 03:02:50,960
we keep it the dollars and stuff like

4296
03:02:50,960 --> 03:02:52,399
that. So, we're kind of working through

4297
03:02:52,399 --> 03:02:55,439
that right now, but it's um No, we just

4298
03:02:55,439 --> 03:02:56,560
got to figure out the cost of doing

4299
03:02:56,560 --> 03:02:57,600
business.

4300
03:02:57,600 --> 03:02:59,040
Just trying to get the other that other

4301
03:02:59,040 --> 03:03:01,359
body that she needs.

4302
03:03:01,359 --> 03:03:04,720
Also, it's about her and us.

4303
03:03:04,720 --> 03:03:08,399
So, right now, I understand like so that

4304
03:03:08,399 --> 03:03:11,760
the dog control officer, they're not

4305
03:03:11,760 --> 03:03:13,120
if they're on their days off, other

4306
03:03:13,120 --> 03:03:16,000
officers aren't necessarily able to

4307
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:17,840
respond to like those type of situations

4308
03:03:17,840 --> 03:03:18,319
or

4309
03:03:18,319 --> 03:03:19,680
so they do. So we have a few officers

4310
03:03:19,680 --> 03:03:21,359
that work closely with the initial

4311
03:03:21,359 --> 03:03:23,520
officer now um that gone through some of

4312
03:03:23,520 --> 03:03:24,880
the trainings. Actually I went to some

4313
03:03:24,880 --> 03:03:27,840
of them myself before um and then but

4314
03:03:27,840 --> 03:03:29,680
she's not there. So, if it's a somebody

4315
03:03:29,680 --> 03:03:32,000
that did a child and we we try to call

4316
03:03:32,000 --> 03:03:33,840
her, we try to recall her and if she's

4317
03:03:33,840 --> 03:03:35,520
not coming in, then one of the officers

4318
03:03:35,520 --> 03:03:38,399
will go um we have our lieutenants

4319
03:03:38,399 --> 03:03:41,279
oversee her and he's usually responds

4320
03:03:41,279 --> 03:03:42,960
and and helps out with that until it

4321
03:03:42,960 --> 03:03:45,359
comes so she's able to follow up with.

4322
03:03:45,359 --> 03:03:47,439
But yeah, right now if it's if it's off

4323
03:03:47,439 --> 03:03:49,520
hours, it's hopefully she comes in. If

4324
03:03:49,520 --> 03:03:53,359
not, then there are a few of us that are more trained than others.

4325
03:03:53,359 --> 03:03:55,040
Gent

4326
03:03:55,040 --> 03:03:56,960
calls and we'll probably wait on them.

4327
03:03:56,960 --> 03:04:00,870
Yes, those will go.

4328
03:04:00,880 --> 03:04:01,680
Good job.

4329
03:04:01,680 --> 03:04:03,520
All right, I think that's good. We just

4330
03:04:03,520 --> 03:04:06,240
move on to Since you're here, capital.

4331
03:04:06,240 --> 03:04:14,469
Oh, parking. Parking first.

4332
03:04:14,479 --> 03:04:16,240
What is it? I'm sorry.

4333
03:04:16,240 --> 03:04:25,990
83320.

4334
03:04:26,000 --> 03:04:28,640
I'm sorry I I have to ask um I know a

4335
03:04:28,640 --> 03:04:30,960
few um individuals in the city that care

4336
03:04:30,960 --> 03:04:33,120
for dogs or do dog training. Would you

4337
03:04:33,120 --> 03:04:36,319
be open to creating a predium aspect of

4338
03:04:36,319 --> 03:04:38,160
it? I'm trying to think of individuals

4339
03:04:38,160 --> 03:04:40,560
to apply for that type of role. Would

4340
03:04:40,560 --> 03:04:42,080
you be open to kind of those changing

4341
03:04:42,080 --> 03:04:45,600
details? So I if it's okay I mean I

4342
03:04:45,600 --> 03:04:48,080
definitely am u we used to have a

4343
03:04:48,080 --> 03:04:51,680
part-time anal before um due to contract

4344
03:04:51,680 --> 03:04:54,319
stuff you know there's a primary anal

4345
03:04:54,319 --> 03:04:56,960
officer gets preference on coming in and

4346
03:04:56,960 --> 03:04:58,960
things like that but if there's somebody

4347
03:04:58,960 --> 03:05:02,080
that's interested absolutely I would um

4348
03:05:02,080 --> 03:05:04,160
I think we there was a list and I think

4349
03:05:04,160 --> 03:05:05,439
we reached out to everybody on the list

4350
03:05:05,439 --> 03:05:06,560
now there is

4351
03:05:06,560 --> 03:05:08,160
well yeah there was civil service list

4352
03:05:08,160 --> 03:05:10,399
we we exhausted the list as we say

4353
03:05:10,399 --> 03:05:12,640
meaning actually we had some no shows

4354
03:05:12,640 --> 03:05:12,960
Yes.

4355
03:05:12,960 --> 03:05:16,560
Um some one person we wouldn't consider.

4356
03:05:16,560 --> 03:05:18,080
So

4357
03:05:18,080 --> 03:05:20,160
yeah, if you know somebody, we would

4358
03:05:20,160 --> 03:05:21,200
definitely be interested in speaking

4359
03:05:21,200 --> 03:05:23,680
with him because we'd like to have that

4360
03:05:23,680 --> 03:05:24,319
position filled.

4361
03:05:24,319 --> 03:05:25,680
Yeah. On a full-time basis, we'll be

4362
03:05:25,680 --> 03:05:27,520
offering a test probably again this

4363
03:05:27,520 --> 03:05:29,359
year, early next sometime early next

4364
03:05:29,359 --> 03:05:31,439
year through civil services. It does,

4365
03:05:31,439 --> 03:05:33,760
but it is a tested position on a

4366
03:05:33,760 --> 03:05:38,469
full-time basis.

4367
03:05:38,479 --> 03:05:45,429
Okay. Page 23.

4368
03:05:45,439 --> 03:05:47,359
Do we have all these position filled in

4369
03:05:47,359 --> 03:05:49,439
terms of the the parking meter

4370
03:05:49,439 --> 03:05:51,840
attendant?

4371
03:05:51,840 --> 03:05:53,840
Nice.

4372
03:05:53,840 --> 03:05:59,910
I guess for

4373
03:05:59,920 --> 03:06:02,399
any question on this

4374
03:06:02,399 --> 03:06:04,160
it's pretty simple.

4375
03:06:04,160 --> 03:06:05,920
She seems very have to bring this one

4376
03:06:05,920 --> 03:06:07,439
up. I know there were no question that's

4377
03:06:07,439 --> 03:06:09,279
why I

4378
03:06:09,279 --> 03:06:12,550
that's why

4379
03:06:12,560 --> 03:06:13,279
go ahead.

4380
03:06:13,279 --> 03:06:15,200
Um so I have a question. So we don't

4381
03:06:15,200 --> 03:06:20,720
have um any parking um attendance on the

4382
03:06:20,720 --> 03:06:22,319
weekend.

4383
03:06:22,319 --> 03:06:24,960
Um that's something that was ever

4384
03:06:24,960 --> 03:06:27,359
considered. I mean not for downtown by

4385
03:06:27,359 --> 03:06:28,800
any means. I think it's important that

4386
03:06:28,800 --> 03:06:31,040
no one has to pay on any events downtown

4387
03:06:31,040 --> 03:06:33,120
or after hours, but there's like so

4388
03:06:33,120 --> 03:06:34,800
much, you know, on weekends, Saturdays,

4389
03:06:34,800 --> 03:06:36,319
Sundays, people parked in the wrong

4390
03:06:36,319 --> 03:06:38,319
spot, people probably calling the police

4391
03:06:38,319 --> 03:06:39,840
department for

4392
03:06:39,840 --> 03:06:43,040
Yes, I know. So, our officers do a

4393
03:06:43,040 --> 03:06:45,520
little bit, but not a lot of it. Um, and

4394
03:06:45,520 --> 03:06:46,880
there has been times where there's been

4395
03:06:46,880 --> 03:06:48,160
different details where our park

4396
03:06:48,160 --> 03:06:49,359
enforcement officers have worked

4397
03:06:49,359 --> 03:06:52,720
weekends um for us, but there is nothing

4398
03:06:52,720 --> 03:06:55,040
in plans currently to have somebody full

4399
03:06:55,040 --> 03:06:57,200
time on on the weekends.

4400
03:06:57,200 --> 03:06:59,680
I would definitely I'd be open to it for

4401
03:06:59,680 --> 03:07:01,600
sure if we could we could build a

4402
03:07:01,600 --> 03:07:05,279
position. Yes, there's definitely a

4403
03:07:05,279 --> 03:07:08,479
main street about people would be called

4404
03:07:08,479 --> 03:07:09,520
on weekends for

4405
03:07:09,520 --> 03:07:12,560
right that puts an officer out there,

4406
03:07:12,560 --> 03:07:15,600
you know, again

4407
03:07:15,600 --> 03:07:18,960
would be taken over by someone that

4408
03:07:18,960 --> 03:07:20,880
the meters are active the meters are

4409
03:07:20,880 --> 03:07:25,110
active.

4410
03:07:25,120 --> 03:07:26,240
I don't think so. I don't think we have

4411
03:07:26,240 --> 03:07:28,880
to pay for

4412
03:07:28,880 --> 03:07:38,790
Monday through Friday, I think.

4413
03:07:38,800 --> 03:07:41,200
Even though the

4414
03:07:41,200 --> 03:07:43,040
garage

4415
03:07:43,040 --> 03:07:45,200
behind Proctor is charged a fee when

4416
03:07:45,200 --> 03:07:47,840
there's

4417
03:07:47,840 --> 03:07:50,080
I don't mean I just mean the rest of the

4418
03:07:50,080 --> 03:07:52,000
city.

4419
03:07:52,000 --> 03:07:53,760
call.

4420
03:07:53,760 --> 03:07:56,560
Yeah.

4421
03:07:56,560 --> 03:08:04,950
All right. Capital.

4422
03:08:04,960 --> 03:08:06,640
I'm not sure specific order you want to

4423
03:08:06,640 --> 03:08:07,279
go.

4424
03:08:07,279 --> 03:08:09,439
No. Okay. Well, I'll touch on the

4425
03:08:09,439 --> 03:08:11,200
replacement of computers and stuff.

4426
03:08:11,200 --> 03:08:12,880
Again, this was part of a three-year

4427
03:08:12,880 --> 03:08:14,479
plan that we had. This is before we went

4428
03:08:14,479 --> 03:08:17,680
into the Axon program. Um I I would like

4429
03:08:17,680 --> 03:08:19,359
to see it if it's not fully funded at

4430
03:08:19,359 --> 03:08:21,040
least to be funded to some degree

4431
03:08:21,040 --> 03:08:23,760
because it's beyond more than just axon

4432
03:08:23,760 --> 03:08:25,279
programs because we have a number of

4433
03:08:25,279 --> 03:08:27,520
outdated computers server softwares that

4434
03:08:27,520 --> 03:08:28,880
were kind of

4435
03:08:28,880 --> 03:08:30,880
just we we needed to overhaul the whole

4436
03:08:30,880 --> 03:08:33,120
system which we're doing really well and

4437
03:08:33,120 --> 03:08:34,640
just this will just continue on the

4438
03:08:34,640 --> 03:08:36,720
program. um if there's monies left over

4439
03:08:36,720 --> 03:08:37,760
at the end of the year, then we could

4440
03:08:37,760 --> 03:08:43,200
apply them towards future um acts on expenses, you know, if it's,

4441
03:08:43,200 --> 03:08:45,120
you know, so we can kind of not say

4442
03:08:45,120 --> 03:08:46,399
warehouse the money, but we do have

4443
03:08:46,399 --> 03:08:47,760
three years to spend it. We don't

4444
03:08:47,760 --> 03:08:50,080
obligate it or or borrow it until it's

4445
03:08:50,080 --> 03:08:51,760
needed. So, it's not like it's, you

4446
03:08:51,760 --> 03:08:53,200
know, it's um

4447
03:08:53,200 --> 03:08:54,720
ahead of time, so it's not like we're

4448
03:08:54,720 --> 03:08:56,000
paying anything on it, but that would

4449
03:08:56,000 --> 03:08:57,920
kind of lock us in. We said before at

4450
03:08:57,920 --> 03:08:59,600
council meetings, we had two years worth

4451
03:08:59,600 --> 03:09:02,000
of funings for the program in hand. We

4452
03:09:02,000 --> 03:09:03,040
already

4453
03:09:03,040 --> 03:09:05,120
deployed our first year's defense on

4454
03:09:05,120 --> 03:09:09,200
that and it's all in motion and all set

4455
03:09:09,200 --> 03:09:11,760
for next year. So, you're in good shape.

4456
03:09:11,760 --> 03:09:14,720
This would just kind of be um if if

4457
03:09:14,720 --> 03:09:16,640
council wishes if we need to divide it

4458
03:09:16,640 --> 03:09:19,279
out and say how much is know we need

4459
03:09:19,279 --> 03:09:21,600
this year we can but I don't think it's

4460
03:09:21,600 --> 03:09:24,800
a waste in any sense of of the word.

4461
03:09:24,800 --> 03:09:28,080
for future future um

4462
03:09:28,080 --> 03:09:29,680
but large large part of this money is

4463
03:09:29,680 --> 03:09:32,319
going to be part of

4464
03:09:32,319 --> 03:09:34,800
this year that was that was our thought.

4465
03:09:34,800 --> 03:09:36,399
Yeah. Yeah. This this money won't be

4466
03:09:36,399 --> 03:09:37,760
used for the next this year or next year

4467
03:09:37,760 --> 03:09:39,439
for axon because we have money in in

4468
03:09:39,439 --> 03:09:41,920
hand already for that grant funding.

4469
03:09:41,920 --> 03:09:44,240
But yes, it' be the following year after

4470
03:09:44,240 --> 03:09:46,000
that if but on the same token we still

4471
03:09:46,000 --> 03:09:47,200
have a number of computers within the

4472
03:09:47,200 --> 03:09:48,720
department and some servers that we have

4473
03:09:48,720 --> 03:09:51,439
to replace and add on to that this money

4474
03:09:51,439 --> 03:09:52,720
will go towards. So,

4475
03:09:52,720 --> 03:09:54,160
it's just part of our infrastructure of

4476
03:09:54,160 --> 03:09:55,840
our police department. So,

4477
03:09:55,840 --> 03:09:56,960
you said you have those number

4478
03:09:56,960 --> 03:09:58,160
available.

4479
03:09:58,160 --> 03:10:00,560
No, I I don't have it. I can I can

4480
03:10:00,560 --> 03:10:02,560
probably, you know, drill down a little

4481
03:10:02,560 --> 03:10:04,080
bit, but I also I would encourage

4482
03:10:04,080 --> 03:10:06,240
everybody to think about funding the

4483
03:10:06,240 --> 03:10:08,560
whole thing because it will not go to,

4484
03:10:08,560 --> 03:10:10,319
you know, we're not asking for fluff

4485
03:10:10,319 --> 03:10:11,520
here. We're asking this is for

4486
03:10:11,520 --> 03:10:13,040
infrastructure. Once that gets set up,

4487
03:10:13,040 --> 03:10:14,399
if there's additional funding, just like

4488
03:10:14,399 --> 03:10:15,920
some kind of capital funding, we can put

4489
03:10:15,920 --> 03:10:17,520
it off towards the up to three years

4490
03:10:17,520 --> 03:10:20,080
from now when we need funding there. um

4491
03:10:20,080 --> 03:10:22,160
under under the capital and I'm not

4492
03:10:22,160 --> 03:10:26,080
trying to rob Peter pay Paul but just it

4493
03:10:26,080 --> 03:10:28,640
sure

4494
03:10:28,640 --> 03:10:30,080
if I won't be here in three years you

4495
03:10:30,080 --> 03:10:32,160
guys

4496
03:10:32,160 --> 03:10:33,920
listen sorry

4497
03:10:33,920 --> 03:10:35,520
so you're saying there won't be any for

4498
03:10:35,520 --> 03:10:37,200
body cameras or not

4499
03:10:37,200 --> 03:10:39,840
no no not this year um but there will be

4500
03:10:39,840 --> 03:10:42,160
we do have expenses and stuff

4501
03:10:42,160 --> 03:10:46,319
for year after two years two years

4502
03:10:46,319 --> 03:10:47,040
and yes

4503
03:10:47,040 --> 03:10:48,080
as part of our plan

4504
03:10:48,080 --> 03:10:49,920
and why not if you need Obviously, you

4505
03:10:49,920 --> 03:10:51,439
know, we'll go after some grand funding

4506
03:10:51,439 --> 03:10:52,880
and so forth. So, if it's not, it's not,

4507
03:10:52,880 --> 03:10:54,960
but it's just um it does help with our

4508
03:10:54,960 --> 03:10:56,880
infrastructure as far as computer

4509
03:10:56,880 --> 03:10:58,880
technologies keeps on changing and some

4510
03:10:58,880 --> 03:10:59,600
of the things that we're doing

4511
03:10:59,600 --> 03:11:01,200
internally is like I said, we're

4512
03:11:01,200 --> 03:11:04,080
embracing technology um that putting

4513
03:11:04,080 --> 03:11:05,520
different devices in the cars and so

4514
03:11:05,520 --> 03:11:08,240
forth. So,

4515
03:11:08,240 --> 03:11:10,240
any more questions on that one?

4516
03:11:10,240 --> 03:11:12,000
Okay, thanks.

4517
03:11:12,000 --> 03:11:14,720
All right. Uh so, talk about

4518
03:11:14,720 --> 03:11:16,160
the police vehicles next.

4519
03:11:16,160 --> 03:11:18,960
Oh, police vehicles next again. This is

4520
03:11:18,960 --> 03:11:21,840
um part of it really was a three-year

4521
03:11:21,840 --> 03:11:23,840
project that we have quite um we

4522
03:11:23,840 --> 03:11:25,359
proposed two years ago. This is the

4523
03:11:25,359 --> 03:11:28,160
third year of this. Um we we asked for

4524
03:11:28,160 --> 03:11:30,000
replacement of these vehicles. One of

4525
03:11:30,000 --> 03:11:31,520
the biggest problems we have right now,

4526
03:11:31,520 --> 03:11:35,359
we ordered cars a year ago, May,

4527
03:11:35,359 --> 03:11:37,439
um we actually just rolled them out.

4528
03:11:37,439 --> 03:11:38,800
So we're in the process. So we have a

4529
03:11:38,800 --> 03:11:40,240
proposal for the mayor for this last

4530
03:11:40,240 --> 03:11:42,080
capital funding to do is rolling out. So

4531
03:11:42,080 --> 03:11:43,439
we're a little bit behind, but it's not

4532
03:11:43,439 --> 03:11:44,880
our fault. It's just the manufacturers.

4533
03:11:44,880 --> 03:11:46,560
We just can't get the cars. Yeah. Yeah.

4534
03:11:46,560 --> 03:11:48,880
I just want to also add that one year in

4535
03:11:48,880 --> 03:11:52,720
2020, we did not purchase cars did not

4536
03:11:52,720 --> 03:11:55,439
have capital projects that year. So

4537
03:11:55,439 --> 03:11:56,000
behind

4538
03:11:56,000 --> 03:11:57,520
and so we're trying to get caught up in

4539
03:11:57,520 --> 03:11:59,920
our our fleet is is obviously in getting

4540
03:11:59,920 --> 03:12:02,160
older and older and it's you know the

4541
03:12:02,160 --> 03:12:04,800
idea was this is that we could um expand

4542
03:12:04,800 --> 03:12:10,000
out our fleet to have each platoon each shift have their own bodies of cars

4543
03:12:10,000 --> 03:12:11,600
and put less miles on the cars so the

4544
03:12:11,600 --> 03:12:13,359
cars will last longer. And that's still

4545
03:12:13,359 --> 03:12:15,279
our goal. Um so we're asking for funing.

4546
03:12:15,279 --> 03:12:16,880
We do we did take on some electric

4547
03:12:16,880 --> 03:12:20,080
vehicles that we have within the

4548
03:12:20,080 --> 03:12:22,960
police department and I personally never

4549
03:12:22,960 --> 03:12:24,479
drove them before and I I actually like

4550
03:12:24,479 --> 03:12:28,640
it. It's not fun to be seen in

4551
03:12:28,640 --> 03:12:30,560
it's kind of little and blues. It's like

4552
03:12:30,560 --> 03:12:31,600
the

4553
03:12:31,600 --> 03:12:33,920
as far as the car actually more pep lot

4554
03:12:33,920 --> 03:12:35,439
more speed kind of a little bit

4555
03:12:35,439 --> 03:12:35,920
different driving.

4556
03:12:35,920 --> 03:12:36,960
They can sneak up on people.

4557
03:12:36,960 --> 03:12:39,680
You can sneak up on people

4558
03:12:39,680 --> 03:12:41,520
the new Ford too are hybrids.

4559
03:12:41,520 --> 03:12:44,160
Yes. Yes. or hybrids in our we don't

4560
03:12:44,160 --> 03:12:46,560
know what mileage will

4561
03:12:46,560 --> 03:12:47,760
these would be would be

4562
03:12:47,760 --> 03:12:49,760
this is basically same type of things

4563
03:12:49,760 --> 03:12:51,040
than been purchasing

4564
03:12:51,040 --> 03:12:52,800
we are looking at other options within

4565
03:12:52,800 --> 03:12:54,800
the electric car world but really not

4566
03:12:54,800 --> 03:12:56,319
much more no one really makes a police

4567
03:12:56,319 --> 03:12:57,920
package problem with some of the

4568
03:12:57,920 --> 03:12:59,439
electric cars is the stuff we have to

4569
03:12:59,439 --> 03:13:01,439
put into them they can't just fully be

4570
03:13:01,439 --> 03:13:02,319
electric so

4571
03:13:02,319 --> 03:13:05,040
and may I ask another question on that

4572
03:13:05,040 --> 03:13:07,680
so these newer cars when we do have the

4573
03:13:07,680 --> 03:13:11,279
stuff that Axon will give us um they'll

4574
03:13:11,279 --> 03:13:12,640
be able to go into these cars.

4575
03:13:12,640 --> 03:13:15,279
Yeah. Yeah. Those go into the hybrids

4576
03:13:15,279 --> 03:13:16,960
for interceptors and so forth. I was

4577
03:13:16,960 --> 03:13:18,640
just say they can't go into all electric

4578
03:13:18,640 --> 03:13:20,000
because there's just too much

4579
03:13:20,000 --> 03:13:22,720
there's too much um weight of the

4580
03:13:22,720 --> 03:13:23,680
battery. Yeah.

4581
03:13:23,680 --> 03:13:24,800
Too much battery.

4582
03:13:24,800 --> 03:13:26,319
Just like I'm talking about like you

4583
03:13:26,319 --> 03:13:29,520
know in our in our detective cars for

4584
03:13:29,520 --> 03:13:31,439
instance you know we have light bars we

4585
03:13:31,439 --> 03:13:32,479
have certain things that they have and

4586
03:13:32,479 --> 03:13:34,080
just low profile but you can't like

4587
03:13:34,080 --> 03:13:35,279
leave them on all the time because the

4588
03:13:35,279 --> 03:13:37,920
car you know you know drain down. Um

4589
03:13:37,920 --> 03:13:39,200
there's different miles you get out of

4590
03:13:39,200 --> 03:13:41,279
it and so forth. But we're we're working

4591
03:13:41,279 --> 03:13:42,640
through some of that. The radios in the

4592
03:13:42,640 --> 03:13:44,080
cars, you know, they have to make sure

4593
03:13:44,080 --> 03:13:46,800
they go off when they can. I again,

4594
03:13:46,800 --> 03:13:48,239
we're learning how to drive electric

4595
03:13:48,239 --> 03:13:51,120
cars cuz it when you break they actually

4596
03:13:51,120 --> 03:13:52,880
charge the battery and there's things

4597
03:13:52,880 --> 03:13:55,680
that I kind of different

4598
03:13:55,680 --> 03:13:58,790
but

4599
03:13:58,800 --> 03:14:00,800
a question if you know on top of your

4600
03:14:00,800 --> 03:14:02,479
head how many cars are in your fleet and

4601
03:14:02,479 --> 03:14:03,680
then how many are slated for

4602
03:14:03,680 --> 03:14:05,279
replacement?

4603
03:14:05,279 --> 03:14:07,760
I don't um there's there's 70 some cars

4604
03:14:07,760 --> 03:14:09,520
within our fleet, but a lot of those are

4605
03:14:09,520 --> 03:14:12,000
um older cars that we use for vice

4606
03:14:12,000 --> 03:14:13,840
garage has a 10 cars designed to know

4607
03:14:13,840 --> 03:14:15,359
they use them just but they're old, you

4608
03:14:15,359 --> 03:14:17,920
know, 10 15 year old cars. Um I can get

4609
03:14:17,920 --> 03:14:20,880
you the number of it. We're constantly

4610
03:14:20,880 --> 03:14:23,920
replacing. We have basically 35 mark

4611
03:14:23,920 --> 03:14:26,160
units in the department. So 35 of those

4612
03:14:26,160 --> 03:14:27,920
cars. I I I can get you more solid

4613
03:14:27,920 --> 03:14:31,439
numbers. um deal with accidents and

4614
03:14:31,439 --> 03:14:33,760
sometimes the engines go or the wear and

4615
03:14:33,760 --> 03:14:36,640
tear. We put we put about um about

4616
03:14:36,640 --> 03:14:39,279
35,000 miles on a car patrol vehicle a

4617
03:14:39,279 --> 03:14:40,880
year and we're trying to reduce that

4618
03:14:40,880 --> 03:14:42,239
down to about 20. And that's that was

4619
03:14:42,239 --> 03:14:44,000
the idea of this project right here. Um

4620
03:14:44,000 --> 03:14:46,800
if we could have gotten the cars like we

4621
03:14:46,800 --> 03:14:49,200
intended, um we think we would have got

4622
03:14:49,200 --> 03:14:52,319
know 25,000 miles a year or less on that

4623
03:14:52,319 --> 03:14:53,840
vehicle because nobody would have been

4624
03:14:53,840 --> 03:14:55,359
assigned and therefore you get, you

4625
03:14:55,359 --> 03:14:57,200
know, let's just say 125 to 130,000

4626
03:14:57,200 --> 03:14:58,640
miles out. you get five, six years out

4627
03:14:58,640 --> 03:15:00,720
of it. Um the idea is that right now

4628
03:15:00,720 --> 03:15:02,720
we're kind of getting three good years

4629
03:15:02,720 --> 03:15:04,479
and then you know the last year is a

4630
03:15:04,479 --> 03:15:05,920
little bit skeptical. The equipment

4631
03:15:05,920 --> 03:15:08,239
within the cars last for was guaranteed

4632
03:15:08,239 --> 03:15:10,319
for five six years. So we're trying to

4633
03:15:10,319 --> 03:15:12,000
just have the the longevity of the

4634
03:15:12,000 --> 03:15:13,840
equipment and cars even the light bars.

4635
03:15:13,840 --> 03:15:15,520
So we're not train changing it over

4636
03:15:15,520 --> 03:15:17,920
constantly. So um the plan I think was a

4637
03:15:17,920 --> 03:15:19,840
good plan just if we can get the cars

4638
03:15:19,840 --> 03:15:25,269
rolling. So

4639
03:15:25,279 --> 03:15:27,680
when we started to we missed

4640
03:15:27,680 --> 03:15:31,600
We did some purchase 21 22 I don't know

4641
03:15:31,600 --> 03:15:34,000
this is anybody can get a list of how

4642
03:15:34,000 --> 03:15:37,600
much replacement we did 21 22

4643
03:15:37,600 --> 03:15:41,439
plus this 10 14 16 here

4644
03:15:41,439 --> 03:15:42,319
how many cars we

4645
03:15:42,319 --> 03:15:45,359
how many we did in 21 22 new

4646
03:15:45,359 --> 03:15:46,399
how many we purchased

4647
03:15:46,399 --> 03:15:49,920
yes um

4648
03:15:49,920 --> 03:15:52,239
none in 21 cuz we actually put an order

4649
03:15:52,239 --> 03:15:54,160
in and we didn't get until 22

4650
03:15:54,160 --> 03:15:55,200
got blurry

4651
03:15:55,200 --> 03:15:57,279
yeah it's more how we got get delivery

4652
03:15:57,279 --> 03:16:01,600
again. Um, so I can I'll go back to 20.

4653
03:16:01,600 --> 03:16:08,309
Yeah, just

4654
03:16:08,319 --> 03:16:11,520
they're starting to roll out2.

4655
03:16:11,520 --> 03:16:13,840
No, we just kind of got our order. I

4656
03:16:13,840 --> 03:16:15,760
haven't sent them there yet. Just it's

4657
03:16:15,760 --> 03:16:18,000
okay. So,

4658
03:16:18,000 --> 03:16:19,600
okay.

4659
03:16:19,600 --> 03:16:24,560
You have any more item? You did a solar sign boards. We have three

4660
03:16:24,560 --> 03:16:27,439
currently. So we deploy them um let the

4661
03:16:27,439 --> 03:16:28,800
community know different events that are

4662
03:16:28,800 --> 03:16:31,359
going on. We also put them in hight

4663
03:16:31,359 --> 03:16:32,720
traffic areas that just scattered

4664
03:16:32,720 --> 03:16:34,239
throughout. People will call us up and

4665
03:16:34,239 --> 03:16:36,560
ask for signs that say slow down in

4666
03:16:36,560 --> 03:16:38,399
different areas. So we deploy them. We

4667
03:16:38,399 --> 03:16:40,880
had a few older ones that have are no

4668
03:16:40,880 --> 03:16:43,120
longer operational. We have three that

4669
03:16:43,120 --> 03:16:48,960
are solar powered that we use. They're out every day now. Um different

4670
03:16:48,960 --> 03:16:50,479
place about the city. Somebody calls us

4671
03:16:50,479 --> 03:16:53,200
up and kind of go on a list of know for

4672
03:16:53,200 --> 03:16:55,359
a week or two at a time. the event and

4673
03:16:55,359 --> 03:16:57,040
fireworks are coming up or road's going

4674
03:16:57,040 --> 03:16:58,160
to be closed. We'll go throw them out

4675
03:16:58,160 --> 03:17:01,279
ahead of time just and we would like to

4676
03:17:01,279 --> 03:17:03,840
have four more of those bring a total of

4677
03:17:03,840 --> 03:17:04,880
seven.

4678
03:17:04,880 --> 03:17:07,439
We just got one last year. So,

4679
03:17:07,439 --> 03:17:09,680
did you touch on property evidence store

4680
03:17:09,680 --> 03:17:10,479
system?

4681
03:17:10,479 --> 03:17:12,239
No, I'll touch on that real quick.

4682
03:17:12,239 --> 03:17:14,239
within our I'm not sure how many council

4683
03:17:14,239 --> 03:17:15,920
members have done this police department

4684
03:17:15,920 --> 03:17:17,520
for a tour, but we we do have within our

4685
03:17:17,520 --> 03:17:21,439
evidence technicians rooms. Um

4686
03:17:21,439 --> 03:17:23,760
what do you call those? Um

4687
03:17:23,760 --> 03:17:25,760
uh file cabinets, they can store a lot

4688
03:17:25,760 --> 03:17:27,439
of stuff. They go up the ceiling 14 15

4689
03:17:27,439 --> 03:17:30,160
ft high. Um

4690
03:17:30,160 --> 03:17:32,319
the storage areas and I'm not doing

4691
03:17:32,319 --> 03:17:33,520
justice to it, but it's pretty

4692
03:17:33,520 --> 03:17:35,359
impressive. But in our in our records,

4693
03:17:35,359 --> 03:17:37,600
so we have two rooms that that house

4694
03:17:37,600 --> 03:17:39,760
probably um two to three times as much

4695
03:17:39,760 --> 03:17:41,040
property as you could if you didn't have

4696
03:17:41,040 --> 03:17:43,359
them. But then our our our archive room,

4697
03:17:43,359 --> 03:17:44,960
the archive room is all of our old

4698
03:17:44,960 --> 03:17:47,680
cases, um detective cases, um some

4699
03:17:47,680 --> 03:17:49,840
traffic stuff that we're we're mandated

4700
03:17:49,840 --> 03:17:52,239
by by law to retain for a certain amount

4701
03:17:52,239 --> 03:17:54,160
of time. Um some is three years, some

4702
03:17:54,160 --> 03:17:56,160
six years, some is up to 25 years

4703
03:17:56,160 --> 03:17:58,160
depending on the crime itself. Within

4704
03:17:58,160 --> 03:17:59,840
there, we're just running out of room.

4705
03:17:59,840 --> 03:18:01,359
And so the idea is that if we brought

4706
03:18:01,359 --> 03:18:03,279
this this storage system, it would

4707
03:18:03,279 --> 03:18:06,080
almost double if not more our capacity.

4708
03:18:06,080 --> 03:18:08,399
So um and still within the same room. So

4709
03:18:08,399 --> 03:18:10,000
requesting the same type of system that

4710
03:18:10,000 --> 03:18:11,920
we have now within our evidence rooms.

4711
03:18:11,920 --> 03:18:13,200
It really probably should stay instead

4712
03:18:13,200 --> 03:18:14,800
of property evidence room or storage

4713
03:18:14,800 --> 03:18:16,800
room. It should be um records and

4714
03:18:16,800 --> 03:18:19,600
archive room. So it's just for it's not

4715
03:18:19,600 --> 03:18:21,680
for property evidence. It's for records

4716
03:18:21,680 --> 03:18:24,319
retention. So

4717
03:18:24,319 --> 03:18:28,950
any question

4718
03:18:28,960 --> 03:18:30,960
regards to the mobile camera. I know we

4719
03:18:30,960 --> 03:18:33,600
talked many years about adding one

4720
03:18:33,600 --> 03:18:35,760
currently.

4721
03:18:35,760 --> 03:18:38,800
Is that out and deployed or is that on

4722
03:18:38,800 --> 03:18:39,840
standby

4723
03:18:39,840 --> 03:18:42,160
being repaired right now?

4724
03:18:42,160 --> 03:18:42,960
It's fixed actually.

4725
03:18:42,960 --> 03:18:44,319
Oh, it's fixed.

4726
03:18:44,319 --> 03:18:45,040
Back.

4727
03:18:45,040 --> 03:18:46,640
And we have another one on order I

4728
03:18:46,640 --> 03:18:47,040
believe.

4729
03:18:47,040 --> 03:18:50,880
Yes. Y and I looking at um ordering

4730
03:18:50,880 --> 03:18:52,640
additional because we talked about a

4731
03:18:52,640 --> 03:18:54,720
couple years and like look at over the

4732
03:18:54,720 --> 03:18:56,640
years ordering one or two because it's

4733
03:18:56,640 --> 03:18:59,600
expensive.

4734
03:18:59,600 --> 03:19:00,479
May I ask what that is?

4735
03:19:00,479 --> 03:19:03,120
It's balancing the camera network. So

4736
03:19:03,120 --> 03:19:05,279
some of the as you expand the network

4737
03:19:05,279 --> 03:19:06,960
you

4738
03:19:06,960 --> 03:19:09,920
don't have the need for the oneoff

4739
03:19:09,920 --> 03:19:12,880
deployments but there are still times

4740
03:19:12,880 --> 03:19:16,720
and places where that is useful and it

4741
03:19:16,720 --> 03:19:19,680
creates a level of deterrence.

4742
03:19:19,680 --> 03:19:23,359
So something that you want to look at

4743
03:19:23,359 --> 03:19:27,120
um the capital budget so complement

4744
03:19:27,120 --> 03:19:29,359
whatever you have you have two one and

4745
03:19:29,359 --> 03:19:32,239
one coming in the next one.

4746
03:19:32,239 --> 03:19:34,960
We'll see how much interest rates go up.

4747
03:19:34,960 --> 03:19:36,880
Look at the whole budget.

4748
03:19:36,880 --> 03:19:38,319
We talk about security, we talk about

4749
03:19:38,319 --> 03:19:40,560
public safety, and the camera, the

4750
03:19:40,560 --> 03:19:43,200
mobile camera is very useful.

4751
03:19:43,200 --> 03:19:44,960
I can tell you this that we're we're

4752
03:19:44,960 --> 03:19:47,760
looking at camera systems in general a

4753
03:19:47,760 --> 03:19:50,399
lot. We're looking at how we can better

4754
03:19:50,399 --> 03:19:52,560
utilize the cameras that currently exist

4755
03:19:52,560 --> 03:19:56,319
in the in the in the city. Smart city uh

4756
03:19:56,319 --> 03:19:58,160
optical sensors,

4757
03:19:58,160 --> 03:20:01,040
uh the county's cameras, uh private

4758
03:20:01,040 --> 03:20:03,600
cameras. How can we capture all that?

4759
03:20:03,600 --> 03:20:05,200
There's software out there that can help

4760
03:20:05,200 --> 03:20:07,439
us with that. There's license plate

4761
03:20:07,439 --> 03:20:08,960
readers that we're looking at. So, we're

4762
03:20:08,960 --> 03:20:10,640
looking at the whole big picture and

4763
03:20:10,640 --> 03:20:12,800
that certainly could be a part of it.

4764
03:20:12,800 --> 03:20:15,359
And we we're going to need to do a

4765
03:20:15,359 --> 03:20:17,120
little bit more research to get an

4766
03:20:17,120 --> 03:20:17,520
answer.

4767
03:20:17,520 --> 03:20:19,680
I I'm not to delay us, but what I don't

4768
03:20:19,680 --> 03:20:22,000
actually know what that is. Can I just

4769
03:20:22,000 --> 03:20:24,239
say when you move them into an area,

4770
03:20:24,239 --> 03:20:25,920
everybody knows who there, so everybody

4771
03:20:25,920 --> 03:20:28,239
kind of say it's very useful when you

4772
03:20:28,239 --> 03:20:29,840
have all those cameras out there.

4773
03:20:29,840 --> 03:20:31,359
Everybody knows about it. Everybody

4774
03:20:31,359 --> 03:20:32,319
talks about it.

4775
03:20:32,319 --> 03:20:33,040
So, it's like

4776
03:20:33,040 --> 03:20:35,600
the South Avenue. Yeah.

4777
03:20:35,600 --> 03:20:37,279
It's a total trailer that's about half

4778
03:20:37,279 --> 03:20:41,359
the size table and it's it goes up like

4779
03:20:41,359 --> 03:20:43,359
20 ft or so. There's a fall on top and

4780
03:20:43,359 --> 03:20:49,279
it's 360 camera and power. We've

4781
03:20:49,279 --> 03:20:57,590
just

4782
03:20:57,600 --> 03:20:59,680
Okay. when we had the meeting I think

4783
03:20:59,680 --> 03:21:02,080
last our last committee meeting and we

4784
03:21:02,080 --> 03:21:04,239
heard about the 500 cameras I think Mr.

4785
03:21:04,239 --> 03:21:06,479
K was presenting I happened to be out

4786
03:21:06,479 --> 03:21:08,479
with my husband after that and I said

4787
03:21:08,479 --> 03:21:11,120
there's 500 cameras

4788
03:21:11,120 --> 03:21:13,600
oh no like he immediately like you know

4789
03:21:13,600 --> 03:21:20,790
kind of breaks in his car I was like see

4790
03:21:20,800 --> 03:21:22,560
okay

4791
03:21:22,560 --> 03:21:25,840
some of those camera help solve crimes

4792
03:21:25,840 --> 03:21:27,920
actually solve the crime I would

4793
03:21:27,920 --> 03:21:28,800
imagine.

4794
03:21:28,800 --> 03:21:30,000
So that's why I'm kind of like to shout

4795
03:21:30,000 --> 03:21:32,399
out because I know

4796
03:21:32,399 --> 03:21:35,040
that we saw the grand vandalism also.

4797
03:21:35,040 --> 03:21:36,720
The one we purchased before was grant

4798
03:21:36,720 --> 03:21:38,000
money. This one that we're purchasing

4799
03:21:38,000 --> 03:21:39,840
now with grant money and so there is

4800
03:21:39,840 --> 03:21:41,520
grant money to be had out there. But the

4801
03:21:41,520 --> 03:21:44,000
chief said we finding a whole system has

4802
03:21:44,000 --> 03:21:45,840
almost like information below how we

4803
03:21:45,840 --> 03:21:48,000
manage it. And um

4804
03:21:48,000 --> 03:21:49,279
what was what was the last price that

4805
03:21:49,279 --> 03:21:50,720
you don't

4806
03:21:50,720 --> 03:21:51,600
this last one?

4807
03:21:51,600 --> 03:21:52,080
Yeah,

4808
03:21:52,080 --> 03:21:55,439
it was it was $70,000.

4809
03:21:55,439 --> 03:21:57,680
Yeah. That's why we were gonna buy two.

4810
03:21:57,680 --> 03:21:59,680
We bought one right now because we

4811
03:21:59,680 --> 03:22:01,920
thought we get get for like 40,000 but

4812
03:22:01,920 --> 03:22:04,080
just like everything else going up.

4813
03:22:04,080 --> 03:22:07,429
Jeez.

4814
03:22:07,439 --> 03:22:09,200
All right.

4815
03:22:09,200 --> 03:22:12,399
Any any other business of for finance? I

4816
03:22:12,399 --> 03:22:14,080
have a motion.

4817
03:22:14,080 --> 03:22:17,279
Second. All in favor? Thank you. Enjoy

4818
03:22:17,279 --> 03:22:23,670
the rest of your good job,

4819
03:22:23,680 --> 03:22:27,910
right? Yeah.

4820
03:22:27,920 --> 03:22:47,269
still get treated better.

4821
03:22:47,279 --> 03:22:52,120
You're right. Okay. All right.