1 00:00:13,799 --> 00:00:30,830 foreign 2 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:45,110 thank you 3 00:00:45,120 --> 00:01:04,490 [Music] 4 00:01:04,500 --> 00:01:36,469 thank you 5 00:01:36,479 --> 00:04:40,610 foreign 6 00:04:40,620 --> 00:05:28,730 thank you 7 00:05:28,740 --> 00:09:43,210 foreign 8 00:09:43,220 --> 00:09:47,060 Council committee for Monday October 17 9 00:09:47,060 --> 00:09:51,060 2022 and the first committee is finance 10 00:09:51,060 --> 00:09:53,640 Mr midiberian thank you I would like to 11 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,260 call the finance committee Florida and 12 00:09:55,260 --> 00:09:57,540 the first item is the purchase of 0.15 13 00:09:57,540 --> 00:09:59,820 Acres paper Street behind 580 at 14 00:09:59,820 --> 00:10:02,640 Broadway not being used by the city Mr 15 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,500 McCarty 16 00:10:04,500 --> 00:10:07,800 thank you Mr chairman this is a parcel 17 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:12,060 that the city had entered into a lease 18 00:10:12,060 --> 00:10:14,100 agreement with the adjacent property 19 00:10:14,100 --> 00:10:15,320 owner 20 00:10:15,320 --> 00:10:18,899 uh subsequent to that they never 21 00:10:18,899 --> 00:10:22,260 actually exercised that it was an option 22 00:10:22,260 --> 00:10:25,320 to rent it subsequent to that working 23 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:27,959 with metroplexies and offer planning the 24 00:10:27,959 --> 00:10:31,740 building and are looking to acquire this 25 00:10:31,740 --> 00:10:34,279 parcel for parking 26 00:10:34,279 --> 00:10:38,220 uh for the expanded business and because 27 00:10:38,220 --> 00:10:40,700 this is a paper Street it would actually 28 00:10:40,700 --> 00:10:45,240 require a an abandonment process and 29 00:10:45,240 --> 00:10:47,880 have our ability to sell it to the 30 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:50,640 property owner and that Mr Gillen has 31 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,260 detailed most of that out in the 32 00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:54,060 narrative it was presented to the 33 00:10:54,060 --> 00:10:56,940 council and I'm available and Mr Wrong 34 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:58,980 and Mr Billington who has any specific 35 00:10:58,980 --> 00:11:00,440 questions 36 00:11:00,440 --> 00:11:06,310 any question on this 37 00:11:06,320 --> 00:11:09,120 so does this impact any other businesses 38 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,040 or anything that's being used for in any 39 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:16,150 way currently 40 00:11:16,160 --> 00:11:34,610 [Music] 41 00:11:34,620 --> 00:11:38,269 um 42 00:11:38,279 --> 00:11:42,470 so 43 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,200 um 44 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,480 this is a point so the Metroplex has 45 00:11:45,480 --> 00:11:47,519 brought this for looking at it we have a 46 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:50,040 figure of the area so the next step is 47 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:51,720 we will call for public hearing that's 48 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:52,620 what we're going to do tonight in 49 00:11:52,620 --> 00:11:54,000 Metroplex in the meantime is going to 50 00:11:54,000 --> 00:11:56,040 put together an actual survey with the 51 00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:57,720 meets and balance of the area that was 52 00:11:57,720 --> 00:11:59,820 described in the figure that will be 53 00:11:59,820 --> 00:12:01,980 part of the public hearing I would 54 00:12:01,980 --> 00:12:03,120 believe that maybe the figure wouldn't 55 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,160 be but this figure would be we would 56 00:12:05,160 --> 00:12:06,480 need to know what we're exactly we're 57 00:12:06,480 --> 00:12:09,120 abandoning the size but we have that but 58 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:10,920 with the meats and balance then we would 59 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,440 abandon that officially after the public 60 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:15,000 hearing the city would abandon it and 61 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,640 then it would be on who Mr coldview 62 00:12:17,640 --> 00:12:22,500 would then sell that parcel to uh since 63 00:12:22,500 --> 00:12:24,540 multi-stop okay 64 00:12:24,540 --> 00:12:26,220 um thank you multi-step there has to be 65 00:12:26,220 --> 00:12:27,660 a call for a public hearing to abandon 66 00:12:27,660 --> 00:12:30,480 and then separately uh resolution 67 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:33,420 authorizing the sale once once it's been 68 00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:35,399 abandoned there'll be a section block a 69 00:12:35,399 --> 00:12:38,040 lot identified for this abandoned parcel 70 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,200 and then a resolution authorizing the 71 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:41,600 sale 72 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,459 I don't know the time table on the 73 00:12:44,459 --> 00:12:46,339 public hearing because we're obviously 74 00:12:46,339 --> 00:12:48,959 with the meets and Bounds in the survey 75 00:12:48,959 --> 00:12:51,240 ready to go for that area that portion 76 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:52,500 is going to be you don't have it at that 77 00:12:52,500 --> 00:12:55,079 I lost no we don't have we don't have it 78 00:12:55,079 --> 00:12:57,910 yet 79 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,240 I think this was that this was more of a 80 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:01,800 discussion purpose to make sure that 81 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:04,500 we're right that's it right so it'll be 82 00:13:04,500 --> 00:13:06,600 a future for public hearing on this 83 00:13:06,600 --> 00:13:08,399 because we need to have the information 84 00:13:08,399 --> 00:13:10,260 for the public so it can be made 85 00:13:10,260 --> 00:13:12,660 available prior to the hearing for the 86 00:13:12,660 --> 00:13:14,480 review 87 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:16,800 and then even a further step is going to 88 00:13:16,800 --> 00:13:19,079 be after all that has taken place then 89 00:13:19,079 --> 00:13:21,180 the abandoned parcel that is transferred 90 00:13:21,180 --> 00:13:23,220 to the property owner will then be 91 00:13:23,220 --> 00:13:25,260 merged with the existing property from 92 00:13:25,260 --> 00:13:26,880 my office through a lot of adjustments 93 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:28,980 so there's really quite quite a few 94 00:13:28,980 --> 00:13:34,449 steps but we can get there okay 95 00:13:34,459 --> 00:13:37,440 it's just thank you Chris thank you 96 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:40,620 mayor thank you council president this 97 00:13:40,620 --> 00:13:43,500 is a a really great company fwf they're 98 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:46,260 on TV all the time I send my mail there 99 00:13:46,260 --> 00:13:49,200 started in 1899 the company called me up 100 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,120 criticized me it's actually like 1860 101 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,459 something it's looking around they have 102 00:13:53,459 --> 00:13:55,380 uh they're in nine states there are 103 00:13:55,380 --> 00:13:57,600 three thousand employees and they love 104 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:00,000 the building and it's vacant out you can 105 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,000 buy it create 12 jobs they need a little 106 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:04,500 more parking there's parking behind the 107 00:14:04,500 --> 00:14:06,720 building but they're they want to buy 108 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:08,639 this little tiny paper street from the 109 00:14:08,639 --> 00:14:11,220 city 0.15 Acres that the council had 110 00:14:11,220 --> 00:14:12,839 agreed to lease previously to another 111 00:14:12,839 --> 00:14:14,579 company that was looking at the building 112 00:14:14,579 --> 00:14:17,399 and chose not to go forward it's going 113 00:14:17,399 --> 00:14:19,380 to bring contractors and activity to the 114 00:14:19,380 --> 00:14:22,200 city create sales tax it's a great 115 00:14:22,200 --> 00:14:24,540 matchup with Marcella's next door you go 116 00:14:24,540 --> 00:14:27,240 buy a new uh dishwasher you go over and 117 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:28,680 get your plumbing fixtures right next 118 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,380 door great company great history they're 119 00:14:31,380 --> 00:14:33,779 excited you've come to Schenectady so 120 00:14:33,779 --> 00:14:35,459 we're really trying to get the sense of 121 00:14:35,459 --> 00:14:37,320 the council tonight that your sport this 122 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,420 so the company can go forward get the 123 00:14:39,420 --> 00:14:41,399 copy of a contract and start moving 124 00:14:41,399 --> 00:14:43,260 toward the sale and that's why it's so 125 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:45,899 important for us to be here tonight and 126 00:14:45,899 --> 00:14:47,579 get your sense get the sense of the 127 00:14:47,579 --> 00:14:48,839 council that we can go through this 128 00:14:48,839 --> 00:14:51,060 multi-step process as the mayor and 129 00:14:51,060 --> 00:14:52,560 Chris and Andrew have outlined we have 130 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,380 to abandon and then we have to have a 131 00:14:55,380 --> 00:14:58,260 public hearing and surveyed property 132 00:14:58,260 --> 00:15:01,079 identify the parcel and then add that 133 00:15:01,079 --> 00:15:07,500 parcel to the 588 Broadway Bar so the 0.15 acres is next to state-owned 134 00:15:07,500 --> 00:15:10,440 property at the end of Van geisley the 135 00:15:10,440 --> 00:15:13,019 state will continue to own that FW Webb 136 00:15:13,019 --> 00:15:15,120 will give them an easement that'll allow 137 00:15:15,120 --> 00:15:16,620 people who want to pull in and turn 138 00:15:16,620 --> 00:15:19,560 around and make guys like to do so so 139 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:21,300 there's no issues there and also the 140 00:15:21,300 --> 00:15:22,980 state needs that access to get onto the 141 00:15:22,980 --> 00:15:25,019 bridge to do maintenance under the 142 00:15:25,019 --> 00:15:27,600 bridge so it's really the small parcel 143 00:15:27,600 --> 00:15:29,519 the stable retained ownership of the 144 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:32,100 majority of that cul-de-sac for 145 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:34,800 turnarounds and other things so we just 146 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,199 appreciate everyone kind of laying out 147 00:15:37,199 --> 00:15:39,180 the welcome mat tonight for FW web to 148 00:15:39,180 --> 00:15:41,040 take over our vacant building and come 149 00:15:41,040 --> 00:15:45,850 to Schenectady thank you 150 00:15:45,860 --> 00:15:47,880 emotions were called for a public 151 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,430 hearings 152 00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:53,760 it can't be done yet because we have to 153 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,019 identify what the public hearing is 154 00:15:55,019 --> 00:15:57,480 going to be but if we don't have the 155 00:15:57,480 --> 00:15:59,760 dimensions on for the public to review 156 00:15:59,760 --> 00:16:01,980 for abandoning it we can't do it just 157 00:16:01,980 --> 00:16:05,339 yet so I think once unless we know 158 00:16:05,339 --> 00:16:06,660 exactly when the public hearing is going 159 00:16:06,660 --> 00:16:07,560 to be but we're going to have to have 160 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,260 the materials for the public so can we 161 00:16:10,260 --> 00:16:12,240 put up all time four weeks as well go 162 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,220 ahead could we move ahead and 163 00:16:16,220 --> 00:16:19,500 the survey is going to be exact even 164 00:16:19,500 --> 00:16:23,040 though we know the parameters now which 165 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:25,320 the representation that is here would 166 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,680 not deviate from what the survey is 167 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:31,189 going to show 168 00:16:31,199 --> 00:16:34,079 and so it's not the survey is going to 169 00:16:34,079 --> 00:16:35,699 be a technical 170 00:16:35,699 --> 00:16:39,480 right description where this is a 171 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:41,820 uh 172 00:16:41,820 --> 00:16:44,940 to the engineer or somebody that 173 00:16:44,940 --> 00:16:47,220 Metroplex could put dimensions on that 174 00:16:47,220 --> 00:16:49,079 so we can if we can put the dimensions 175 00:16:49,079 --> 00:16:51,839 on it that's not a problem it's the you 176 00:16:51,839 --> 00:16:52,459 know 177 00:16:52,459 --> 00:16:54,660 obviously a survey is going to be more 178 00:16:54,660 --> 00:16:57,600 precise but if we have the dimensions 179 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:00,240 and the general overlay of you know the 180 00:17:00,240 --> 00:17:02,040 area that's going to be abandoned then 181 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,199 we can move it to a public hearing but 182 00:17:04,199 --> 00:17:06,000 we're going to need obviously a bit more 183 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:08,760 detail than just I think what we have 184 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:11,220 before us 185 00:17:11,220 --> 00:17:12,900 so it can be moved to a public hearing 186 00:17:12,900 --> 00:17:15,000 as long as we have the information for 187 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,620 the public 188 00:17:16,620 --> 00:17:18,480 so I just want to be clear we're going 189 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:19,980 to move that have the public hearing 190 00:17:19,980 --> 00:17:21,000 date pushed out a little bit because as 191 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:21,900 I 192 00:17:21,900 --> 00:17:23,880 was like they're falling that you need 193 00:17:23,880 --> 00:17:25,140 to make sure that all information is 194 00:17:25,140 --> 00:17:26,880 placed so we can call for it but I 195 00:17:26,880 --> 00:17:28,980 suggest that we put it out a little bit 196 00:17:28,980 --> 00:17:32,760 further as opposed to the normal cycle 197 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,380 yes so we make sure we have all the 198 00:17:34,380 --> 00:17:37,010 materials 199 00:17:37,020 --> 00:17:39,000 that's I mean that works is part of this 200 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:40,620 is for the city clerk to be able to 201 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:43,500 provide notice uh in advance for the 202 00:17:43,500 --> 00:17:46,630 public 203 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,140 president if you called for the public 204 00:17:49,140 --> 00:17:53,820 here and we have the information you could 205 00:17:53,820 --> 00:17:55,799 amend that call for the public hearing 206 00:17:55,799 --> 00:17:57,440 the date 207 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,059 when it goes out if in fact we don't 208 00:18:00,059 --> 00:18:01,679 have the information which we suggesting 209 00:18:01,679 --> 00:18:02,880 we could move it out probably another 210 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,640 two weeks so in fact we could then have 211 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,880 everything in place and we do have a 212 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,880 fifth Monday so 213 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:13,980 oh boy yeah so I just wanted to make 214 00:18:13,980 --> 00:18:15,720 sure we were aware of that so if we're 215 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:16,919 talking about getting the detailed 216 00:18:16,919 --> 00:18:18,539 information and kind of keeping on a 217 00:18:18,539 --> 00:18:20,059 schedule and we have a fifth Monday 218 00:18:20,059 --> 00:18:22,620 because typically it wouldn't be this 219 00:18:22,620 --> 00:18:25,200 public hearing the next committee 220 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:26,760 meeting we would say a reminder that we 221 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,919 have it so that's actually like five 222 00:18:28,919 --> 00:18:30,900 it's important yeah so we're quite a 223 00:18:30,900 --> 00:18:31,980 ways out so I think we're gonna have 224 00:18:31,980 --> 00:18:33,539 plenty of time especially because of how 225 00:18:33,539 --> 00:18:35,100 important the project is for everyone 226 00:18:35,100 --> 00:18:36,660 how quick that we can do this quick 227 00:18:36,660 --> 00:18:39,059 little boundary so I think that's a 228 00:18:39,059 --> 00:18:40,140 typical schedule yeah I think we're 229 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:41,039 gonna have fun because we have that 230 00:18:41,039 --> 00:18:42,900 extra week affordable okay all right 231 00:18:42,900 --> 00:18:44,820 thank you all right thank you 232 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:46,980 okay 233 00:18:46,980 --> 00:18:49,020 so we can move this area to call for 234 00:18:49,020 --> 00:19:00,850 public hearing a little bit 235 00:19:00,860 --> 00:19:05,120 all right thank you thank you 236 00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:07,740 the next item is agreement between the 237 00:19:07,740 --> 00:19:09,539 city and the Schenectady country related 238 00:19:09,539 --> 00:19:14,150 to digital repairs 239 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:15,960 Schenectady County currently provides 240 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:18,900 the city with mechanical repair and 241 00:19:18,900 --> 00:19:21,960 preventive maintenance services for City 242 00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,140 Vehicles not all vehicles but a good 243 00:19:25,140 --> 00:19:27,240 number of vehicles that we can't do 244 00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:28,280 in-house 245 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,660 the agreement currently between the 246 00:19:30,660 --> 00:19:33,000 county and the city is out of date we've 247 00:19:33,000 --> 00:19:36,419 been working off a technically inspired 248 00:19:36,419 --> 00:19:38,940 agreement under using the same terms 249 00:19:38,940 --> 00:19:41,360 that we've been applying 250 00:19:41,360 --> 00:19:44,880 the proposed agreement which there's a 251 00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:47,700 copy attached to the materials requires 252 00:19:47,700 --> 00:19:48,919 the city to pay 253 00:19:48,919 --> 00:19:51,600 58.72 cents per hour for work completed 254 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:56,580 that does account for not just the uh 255 00:19:56,580 --> 00:19:58,860 the the waves of those County workers 256 00:19:58,860 --> 00:20:01,980 but also you know the benefit the pro 257 00:20:01,980 --> 00:20:04,860 rata share of the of the benefits that 258 00:20:04,860 --> 00:20:06,240 they make 259 00:20:06,240 --> 00:20:09,419 um there's also a we would be required 260 00:20:09,419 --> 00:20:12,600 to pay for the actual part expense so if 261 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:14,340 we're you know getting parts installed 262 00:20:14,340 --> 00:20:16,919 on our vehicles we'd be paying just you 263 00:20:16,919 --> 00:20:18,299 know exactly what the County's paying 264 00:20:18,299 --> 00:20:20,340 there's a five percent disposal charge 265 00:20:20,340 --> 00:20:23,580 on a 1.5 percent Vehicles charge and 266 00:20:23,580 --> 00:20:24,780 there's a proportionate share of 267 00:20:24,780 --> 00:20:26,760 overhead expenditures 268 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:30,840 um Anthony the mayor Paul Lafond and I 269 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:32,640 met with the county on a number of 270 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,900 occasions to negotiate the terms of this 271 00:20:35,900 --> 00:20:39,240 from a finance perspective 272 00:20:39,240 --> 00:20:42,960 um Anthony is comfortable with the terms 273 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:44,240 of disagreement 274 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:47,160 from an operational standpoint all the 275 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:48,600 fun is comfortable with the terms of 276 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:50,660 disagreement this agreement 277 00:20:50,660 --> 00:20:53,700 is technically we were trying to date it 278 00:20:53,700 --> 00:20:57,299 to back when the the sales tax agreement 279 00:20:57,299 --> 00:20:59,039 was going to take effect so going back 280 00:20:59,039 --> 00:21:02,039 to December 1st of 2020 and would run 281 00:21:02,039 --> 00:21:04,500 through November 30th 2028 which is the 282 00:21:04,500 --> 00:21:07,679 term of that sales tax agreement and it 283 00:21:07,679 --> 00:21:10,860 will continue on Beyond 2028 284 00:21:10,860 --> 00:21:13,200 um unlocks there's a 30 days notice 285 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,820 that's provided just so that we have 286 00:21:14,820 --> 00:21:17,640 something in effect through that data 287 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:19,320 for some reason we haven't renegotiated 288 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,960 the terms and gotten approved by council 289 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:24,780 at that point as I said this has been 290 00:21:24,780 --> 00:21:26,960 negotiated in multiple sessions 291 00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:30,260 it provides a clear concise method 292 00:21:30,260 --> 00:21:34,620 to be frank a fair way of dividing the 293 00:21:34,620 --> 00:21:37,500 city's share of the work that the county 294 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:41,720 is doing on our behalf so I'm seeking 295 00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:44,700 committee approval of this request for 296 00:21:44,700 --> 00:21:47,100 the full council's consideration of a 297 00:21:47,100 --> 00:21:50,220 resolution approving this agreement 298 00:21:50,220 --> 00:22:01,630 foreign 299 00:22:01,640 --> 00:22:04,440 so how are those things covered I mean 300 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,360 the towing you don't have to explain I I 301 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:07,919 get that 302 00:22:07,919 --> 00:22:10,080 um but so all the other things like 303 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,640 welding or fabrication those kind of 304 00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:13,140 services that are excluded under this 305 00:22:13,140 --> 00:22:14,640 contract how we're getting that work 306 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:15,419 done 307 00:22:15,419 --> 00:22:17,400 um I believe the Welding and Fabrication 308 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:19,940 we do in-house 309 00:22:19,940 --> 00:22:22,380 operator of the general principles about 310 00:22:22,380 --> 00:22:25,140 that for the last 20 years 311 00:22:25,140 --> 00:22:27,480 yeah this is not so this portion of the 312 00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:30,600 contract is not new that is the same 313 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,240 terms that were in there the last time 314 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:35,520 um you know there were certain things as 315 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:38,100 they said we negotiated you know to our 316 00:22:38,100 --> 00:22:40,020 advantage 317 00:22:40,020 --> 00:22:43,559 um the exclusion like for example the 318 00:22:43,559 --> 00:22:46,140 golf course contract like we handled 319 00:22:46,140 --> 00:22:48,840 that through our vendor if we can't do 320 00:22:48,840 --> 00:22:50,520 it in-house 321 00:22:50,520 --> 00:22:53,580 um we handle the towing obviously you 322 00:22:53,580 --> 00:22:55,200 know through 323 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:57,720 um private contractors 324 00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:00,620 um the paint work body work 325 00:23:00,620 --> 00:23:04,860 we do a lot of that through outside 326 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:06,919 um privates 327 00:23:06,919 --> 00:23:10,020 companies if necessary a lot of that 328 00:23:10,020 --> 00:23:11,280 would happen through our insurance 329 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:12,960 company if we're having to have body 330 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:14,460 work done because that would generally 331 00:23:14,460 --> 00:23:17,700 mean that there was a an accident 332 00:23:17,700 --> 00:23:20,930 um 333 00:23:20,940 --> 00:23:22,380 as I mentioned the Welding and 334 00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:24,140 Fabrication we do in-house 335 00:23:24,140 --> 00:23:26,400 and then reporting of accidents that's 336 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,280 something that is required of our staff 337 00:23:29,280 --> 00:23:31,039 if they get into an accident 338 00:23:31,039 --> 00:23:33,419 is there any vendor locally that we do 339 00:23:33,419 --> 00:23:35,820 I've seen police cars at a lot of them 340 00:23:35,820 --> 00:23:39,059 at one time and um at a particular 341 00:23:39,059 --> 00:23:41,700 um garage so are there outside vendors 342 00:23:41,700 --> 00:23:43,080 that are doing workforces as well on 343 00:23:43,080 --> 00:23:44,340 police cars 344 00:23:44,340 --> 00:23:47,280 um I don't know exactly who's doing it 345 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,380 um I know I think in the past we may 346 00:23:49,380 --> 00:23:52,260 have used Auto Solutions at one point 347 00:23:52,260 --> 00:23:54,539 um I I wouldn't be the the resource to 348 00:23:54,539 --> 00:23:56,940 tell you where our police cars are going 349 00:23:56,940 --> 00:23:59,940 if if in fact there's an accident I 350 00:23:59,940 --> 00:24:01,679 believe we may still be using Auto 351 00:24:01,679 --> 00:24:05,159 Solutions in some fashion if there is an 352 00:24:05,159 --> 00:24:07,980 issue but obviously you know we have to 353 00:24:07,980 --> 00:24:10,500 follow the purchasing policy and if it's 354 00:24:10,500 --> 00:24:12,059 the insurance company that comes into 355 00:24:12,059 --> 00:24:13,740 play we go through the insurance company 356 00:24:13,740 --> 00:24:16,020 and that has happened 357 00:24:16,020 --> 00:24:18,240 so if I could just um have a like 358 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,159 listing of where we get the other work 359 00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:21,900 done 360 00:24:21,900 --> 00:24:23,460 you don't have to do it right now you 361 00:24:23,460 --> 00:24:26,529 can just share the list 362 00:24:26,539 --> 00:24:28,919 and they can't afford but all those 363 00:24:28,919 --> 00:24:31,200 Solutions and the place I have a 364 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,640 ball-time roadway to take care of all 365 00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:34,620 the lights the sirens and all the other 366 00:24:34,620 --> 00:24:37,260 stuff but uh and also we have three 367 00:24:37,260 --> 00:24:39,480 places that do body work but and you 368 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:40,919 know mechanical work is done by the 369 00:24:40,919 --> 00:24:43,320 county court of the city I understand 370 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:44,940 that so I'm just asking for work other 371 00:24:44,940 --> 00:24:46,440 outside of that if we just have the 372 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,480 listing yeah I heard that you said and I 373 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:49,740 won't remember at all I didn't write it 374 00:24:49,740 --> 00:24:50,940 all down so 375 00:24:50,940 --> 00:24:55,190 oh that would be helpful 376 00:24:55,200 --> 00:24:59,230 any other question of this item 377 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,880 all in favor all right thank you 378 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,520 the next slide is review of the 2023 379 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,220 budget public hearing I was on 10 11 and 380 00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:09,419 two 381 00:25:09,419 --> 00:25:11,700 I think that's the place full we 382 00:25:11,700 --> 00:25:13,679 continue to have our budget hearing and 383 00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:16,200 second sessions tomorrow third session 384 00:25:16,200 --> 00:25:18,539 and four sessions to follow we'll 385 00:25:18,539 --> 00:25:21,539 continue to review the budget um if we 386 00:25:21,539 --> 00:25:25,190 have to do anything on this items 387 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:26,419 [Music] 388 00:25:26,419 --> 00:25:28,980 I believe it's the first time in modern 389 00:25:28,980 --> 00:25:31,080 history nobody has stood up and 390 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,679 criticized the mayor's budget and 391 00:25:33,679 --> 00:25:39,669 the initial public hearings 392 00:25:39,679 --> 00:25:42,179 we had one speaker and she was in favor 393 00:25:42,179 --> 00:25:44,820 of some things that were in the budget 394 00:25:44,820 --> 00:25:47,100 good work yeah 395 00:25:47,100 --> 00:25:48,659 and there's nothing else before Finance 396 00:25:48,659 --> 00:26:02,890 I have a motion to adjourn she 397 00:26:02,900 --> 00:26:05,400 thank you so there are last committee 398 00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:06,960 meeting we discussed this and all agree 399 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,340 that we would want to move forward with 400 00:26:08,340 --> 00:26:12,059 that since that time I reached out to 401 00:26:12,059 --> 00:26:14,640 our HR department and so they looked 402 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,159 into it and came up with something that 403 00:26:17,159 --> 00:26:18,960 our insurance company may be able to 404 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:20,700 cover and I just want to keep in mind 405 00:26:20,700 --> 00:26:23,820 this is without cost and 406 00:26:23,820 --> 00:26:26,220 um also I asked all council members if 407 00:26:26,220 --> 00:26:29,279 they had any group and I didn't get 408 00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:33,419 anything except a response by way of uh 409 00:26:33,419 --> 00:26:36,900 council member Toro she uh she had 410 00:26:36,900 --> 00:26:38,700 someone reach out to me so 411 00:26:38,700 --> 00:26:41,520 um and so I had that one and then 412 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:42,779 additionally there's a New York state 413 00:26:42,779 --> 00:26:46,320 agency again without cost that would be 414 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:48,779 um have the ability to do it so at this 415 00:26:48,779 --> 00:26:50,159 point in time I'm asking for each of 416 00:26:50,159 --> 00:26:51,419 them to 417 00:26:51,419 --> 00:26:53,220 um put forward what the training would 418 00:26:53,220 --> 00:26:55,200 look like what it would include so we 419 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,240 can make some decisions around that I 420 00:26:57,240 --> 00:26:58,679 understand that we're in our budget 421 00:26:58,679 --> 00:27:01,440 season so don't anticipate us um having 422 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:03,419 been able to do this in October but I 423 00:27:03,419 --> 00:27:04,740 would hope by November we'd be able to 424 00:27:04,740 --> 00:27:07,799 identify and move forward with that and 425 00:27:07,799 --> 00:27:10,380 cost um what's a factor and we wanted to 426 00:27:10,380 --> 00:27:13,380 make sure that we get quality even even 427 00:27:13,380 --> 00:27:14,880 if we don't pay for it so again our 428 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:16,440 insurance company 429 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:18,779 um is looking at doing it free of cost 430 00:27:18,779 --> 00:27:20,100 but again we want to see what they're 431 00:27:20,100 --> 00:27:21,840 offering and also the New York state 432 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:25,500 agency the other referral was by a 433 00:27:25,500 --> 00:27:27,720 private person who would if there would 434 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,600 be a cost attached to it 435 00:27:30,600 --> 00:27:32,039 so 436 00:27:32,039 --> 00:27:36,360 um I will bring back what we have in the 437 00:27:36,360 --> 00:27:39,529 next committee meeting 438 00:27:39,539 --> 00:27:41,220 um I did have a conversation with a 439 00:27:41,220 --> 00:27:43,500 person I used to volunteer with who now 440 00:27:43,500 --> 00:27:45,120 is the VP for 441 00:27:45,120 --> 00:27:46,860 diversity equity and inclusion at 442 00:27:46,860 --> 00:27:48,840 Leadership Bank and she just sent me her 443 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:49,740 list 444 00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:52,980 um of uh referrals so I have 445 00:27:52,980 --> 00:27:54,900 um I think there's seven or eight 446 00:27:54,900 --> 00:27:57,480 different groups that she identified 447 00:27:57,480 --> 00:28:00,779 some of them are out of town but I just 448 00:28:00,779 --> 00:28:03,360 printed it today so to bring it to you 449 00:28:03,360 --> 00:28:05,100 tonight 450 00:28:05,100 --> 00:28:07,100 thank you 451 00:28:07,100 --> 00:28:09,779 so I'll look into all those things where 452 00:28:09,779 --> 00:28:12,000 I know some of some of those I'm sorry I 453 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:13,799 think you probably are know some of the 454 00:28:13,799 --> 00:28:15,179 same 455 00:28:15,179 --> 00:28:17,039 some of those Consultants they've been 456 00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,760 doing it for a while so cough also will 457 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,500 be affect yourself right no I know yeah 458 00:28:22,500 --> 00:28:24,840 so I'll bring back to the results of 459 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,179 that and hopefully we can plan something 460 00:28:27,179 --> 00:28:29,760 um at least in November okay 461 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:32,279 are there any other questions over input 462 00:28:32,279 --> 00:28:34,620 okay 463 00:28:34,620 --> 00:28:36,299 if you're asking for this to be back up 464 00:28:36,299 --> 00:28:39,240 and coming to you next week yes well the 465 00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,529 first week of November yeah 466 00:28:42,539 --> 00:28:51,370 any other questions okay 467 00:28:51,380 --> 00:28:55,200 second all in favor aye aye thank you 468 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,520 I'd like to call the order City 469 00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:58,740 development and planning we have uh five 470 00:28:58,740 --> 00:29:01,620 items on the agenda the first one is to 471 00:29:01,620 --> 00:29:03,360 authorize the city Engineers to 472 00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,919 investigate the feasibility of 473 00:29:04,919 --> 00:29:06,779 physically establishing the paper Street 474 00:29:06,779 --> 00:29:16,810 known as Revere Avenue in Swan 475 00:29:16,820 --> 00:29:19,020 thank you I'm going to ask it everyone 476 00:29:19,020 --> 00:29:21,419 bear with me on this this is a new uh 477 00:29:21,419 --> 00:29:24,419 thing for me as in my 10 years we have 478 00:29:24,419 --> 00:29:26,220 not looked at the feasibility of 479 00:29:26,220 --> 00:29:28,020 investigating paper Street I would like 480 00:29:28,020 --> 00:29:30,240 to start just by kind of reading what I 481 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,460 wrote here so Revere as new is a paper 482 00:29:32,460 --> 00:29:34,799 streak it's approximately 730 feet long 483 00:29:34,799 --> 00:29:37,679 60 feet wide located between Rosa Road 484 00:29:37,679 --> 00:29:39,539 and Sheridan Avenue the city of 485 00:29:39,539 --> 00:29:40,740 Schenectady is comprised of numerous 486 00:29:40,740 --> 00:29:42,299 paper streets which are established 487 00:29:42,299 --> 00:29:44,279 during the city's expansion while the 488 00:29:44,279 --> 00:29:45,480 majority of the paper streets in the 489 00:29:45,480 --> 00:29:46,980 city have been formally developed there 490 00:29:46,980 --> 00:29:48,960 are several that still exist scattered 491 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,179 throughout the city these paper streets 492 00:29:51,179 --> 00:29:52,980 are owned by the city similar to visibly 493 00:29:52,980 --> 00:29:55,679 constructed public roadways of Arts but 494 00:29:55,679 --> 00:29:57,899 are often undeveloped in wooded areas so 495 00:29:57,899 --> 00:29:59,940 that's what we have with regard to 496 00:29:59,940 --> 00:30:04,380 Revere Avenue the owners of several 497 00:30:04,380 --> 00:30:06,539 properties their team to be exact are 498 00:30:06,539 --> 00:30:13,140 petitioning the city as per section c of the city's Charter to have this 499 00:30:13,140 --> 00:30:15,299 area investigated for establishment as 500 00:30:15,299 --> 00:30:16,919 they only several parcels and that's 501 00:30:16,919 --> 00:30:20,220 right now they are unusable the owners 502 00:30:20,220 --> 00:30:23,159 of the parcel are here they have owned 503 00:30:23,159 --> 00:30:24,779 them as it says in this in their letter 504 00:30:24,779 --> 00:30:27,480 for several years of paying taxes on 505 00:30:27,480 --> 00:30:30,779 them the parcels are without Revere 506 00:30:30,779 --> 00:30:33,419 having to establish landlocked and on 507 00:30:33,419 --> 00:30:35,000 such an unusable 508 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:37,799 and they're looking for the city council 509 00:30:37,799 --> 00:30:41,279 to authorize myself to investigate the 510 00:30:41,279 --> 00:30:43,559 feasibility of establishing this roadway 511 00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:45,899 so that they may look to develop the 512 00:30:45,899 --> 00:30:46,919 parcels 513 00:30:46,919 --> 00:30:49,080 um do you mind speaking on your behalf 514 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:50,460 for a second I would appreciate it just 515 00:30:50,460 --> 00:30:52,320 about what we've gone through unless if 516 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:54,240 you don't feel comfortable with that 517 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:56,120 um 518 00:30:56,120 --> 00:31:00,059 well you have a a letter that I do right 519 00:31:00,059 --> 00:31:01,620 here in the council housing as well I 520 00:31:01,620 --> 00:31:06,539 just wanted to put a a base for the uh 521 00:31:06,539 --> 00:31:09,179 my name is Brian Carver my wife actually 522 00:31:09,179 --> 00:31:12,240 owns the property uh the property has 523 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,480 been owned by the family her father 524 00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,700 started purchasing this property and the 525 00:31:17,700 --> 00:31:20,840 I believe it was the late 50s early 60s 526 00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:24,659 and over that period of time we were 527 00:31:24,659 --> 00:31:27,299 looking at various you know development 528 00:31:27,299 --> 00:31:31,980 projects and what we found is we applied 529 00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:34,799 for a change of uh zoning there because 530 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,539 it was owned a single family which 531 00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:38,520 didn't make that much sense anyways 532 00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:40,559 because it's surrounded by apartment 533 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,240 complexes 534 00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:45,179 so what we did is we were talking you 535 00:31:45,179 --> 00:31:46,380 know we had some people that were 536 00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:48,539 interested in developing the property 537 00:31:48,539 --> 00:31:51,659 and we started taking a look at it and 538 00:31:51,659 --> 00:31:54,120 there's there's some conditions there 539 00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:56,640 that need to be addressed you know that 540 00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:57,720 uh 541 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,559 are really you know federal regulations 542 00:32:00,559 --> 00:32:03,360 and that's why we wanted that we've 543 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,520 asked the city to investigate the 544 00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,440 feasibility of installing you know 545 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:08,880 putting the street in whether it can be 546 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:13,990 done or whether it can't be done 547 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:20,340 and just as a history I mean when the property was transferred back 548 00:32:20,340 --> 00:32:24,059 in Germany a while back in around 2010 549 00:32:24,059 --> 00:32:26,120 yeah we did 550 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,679 deal with the assessor at the time and 551 00:32:28,679 --> 00:32:30,419 the problem you know property was 552 00:32:30,419 --> 00:32:32,580 established at a certain value coming to 553 00:32:32,580 --> 00:32:34,679 work best building lots and we're 554 00:32:34,679 --> 00:32:36,659 finding out right now that you know 555 00:32:36,659 --> 00:32:37,919 there are some things that need to be 556 00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,320 taken care of the system is indeed they 557 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,059 are actually going to be you know 558 00:32:42,059 --> 00:32:44,820 classified as building lots and that's 559 00:32:44,820 --> 00:32:46,799 why we asked the you know the city to 560 00:32:46,799 --> 00:32:48,960 investigate this and to put the street 561 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,360 in we do have people that are interested 562 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,100 in you know putting the apartments in 563 00:32:53,100 --> 00:33:00,360 there that we were talking about so as this is new as per the city's 564 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,419 Charter we are you know he has 565 00:33:03,419 --> 00:33:05,760 petitioned the city he does 566 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,279 um they I apologize they own 567 00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,740 a majority of Frontage on as per the 568 00:33:10,740 --> 00:33:13,200 charger uh and it comes to the city 569 00:33:13,200 --> 00:33:17,159 council the one point I will uh make an 570 00:33:17,159 --> 00:33:18,600 emphasis is why we have the property 571 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,539 owner in the the room with us is as it 572 00:33:21,539 --> 00:33:25,080 comes to feed typically similar to a 573 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,600 sidewalk assessment the costs of what 574 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,880 the city incurs are assessed onto the 575 00:33:29,880 --> 00:33:33,000 property owners via Frontage 576 00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,299 um I think in the letter it talks about 577 00:33:35,299 --> 00:33:37,980 these unusable parcels and the property 578 00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:40,860 owners have already spent to date in 579 00:33:40,860 --> 00:33:42,360 excess of a hundred thousand dollars in 580 00:33:42,360 --> 00:33:45,960 taxes so I believe what their request 581 00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:48,960 would be is that the city go forward 582 00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,659 with uh 583 00:33:51,659 --> 00:33:54,539 absorbing the costs on the idea that 584 00:33:54,539 --> 00:33:57,000 they have already paid so much money in 585 00:33:57,000 --> 00:33:59,760 excess of the taxes that they have for 586 00:33:59,760 --> 00:34:00,720 you know they haven't gotten anything 587 00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:02,700 they don't have sewer or water or any 588 00:34:02,700 --> 00:34:04,500 kind of access to the parcels they are 589 00:34:04,500 --> 00:34:06,720 paying their taxes and I think that they 590 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,580 would like that so that's something that 591 00:34:08,580 --> 00:34:11,099 the council from a perspective is if we 592 00:34:11,099 --> 00:34:13,980 want to go forward as part of this and 593 00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:16,379 assess the owner here I don't know how 594 00:34:16,379 --> 00:34:17,820 that conversation occurs I don't know if 595 00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:19,679 that's for the law department or how 596 00:34:19,679 --> 00:34:23,099 that actually works but I think that is 597 00:34:23,099 --> 00:34:24,839 um something that they would the 598 00:34:24,839 --> 00:34:26,159 property owners would want to be aware 599 00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:29,099 of how that would work and the costs so 600 00:34:29,099 --> 00:34:31,139 that's why this is more of a kind of a 601 00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:32,879 discussion we have people here and how 602 00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:33,960 we would like to go forward with 603 00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,869 something like this 604 00:34:37,879 --> 00:34:40,379 so what are we talking about in terms of 605 00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:44,399 costly I don't have a lot of idea right 606 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,560 now given the size um what we're going 607 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,320 to do I haven't established a project 608 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,300 such as this and we were talking about a 609 00:34:51,300 --> 00:34:54,119 lot of Baseline I don't know if we're 610 00:34:54,119 --> 00:34:56,520 you know possibly a survey to establish 611 00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,500 all the limits some flagging out there 612 00:34:58,500 --> 00:35:00,240 which has been previously done a little 613 00:35:00,240 --> 00:35:02,940 bit and then uh you know so we want to 614 00:35:02,940 --> 00:35:05,400 understand there is a great change and 615 00:35:05,400 --> 00:35:08,400 what our options are going forward you 616 00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:09,540 know one of the things that we want to 617 00:35:09,540 --> 00:35:12,540 make sure is just 618 00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:15,119 how possible it is to go forward what 619 00:35:15,119 --> 00:35:16,380 are our options one of the things we 620 00:35:16,380 --> 00:35:19,560 have talked about uh casually as is that 621 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:21,720 does the road go through the property or 622 00:35:21,720 --> 00:35:23,940 does it have to stop are the lots going 623 00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:26,520 to be most likely merged is a part of 624 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,960 this right away going to be abandoned 625 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,180 like we talked about previously and then 626 00:35:30,180 --> 00:35:31,619 sold for the betterment of the 627 00:35:31,619 --> 00:35:34,380 development there's a lot of there's a 628 00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:36,420 lot that could happen and then at the 629 00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:37,980 end of the day if somehow the 630 00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:40,500 feasibility is that it cannot be 631 00:35:40,500 --> 00:35:43,140 developed then what is that step because 632 00:35:43,140 --> 00:35:46,079 then what we have are numerous private 633 00:35:46,079 --> 00:35:48,300 Parcels is outlined as the tax maps that 634 00:35:48,300 --> 00:35:51,359 are undevelopable and so you know 635 00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:53,220 there's really very limited use of 636 00:35:53,220 --> 00:35:54,960 having a park in that area it's that 637 00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:56,700 kind of conversation then what do we do 638 00:35:56,700 --> 00:35:58,560 and how does the homeowners and their 639 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:00,420 properties fit into this is you know we 640 00:36:00,420 --> 00:36:01,619 don't have a lot of properties that are 641 00:36:01,619 --> 00:36:03,540 similar where it's numerous properties 642 00:36:03,540 --> 00:36:06,839 that have no access we had situations 643 00:36:06,839 --> 00:36:09,060 like this in Woodlawn by the Woodlawn 644 00:36:09,060 --> 00:36:11,339 preserve and as part of Steve 645 00:36:11,339 --> 00:36:12,900 strickman's kind of last 646 00:36:12,900 --> 00:36:15,300 we did we Consolidated and tried to take 647 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:17,400 as many and just expand the park but 648 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,320 this isn't adjacent to really any major 649 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,380 Park so it's a little complex in how we 650 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:23,940 deal with it I'm not saying we can't do 651 00:36:23,940 --> 00:36:25,020 it but 652 00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:26,940 uh part of this I need to you know have 653 00:36:26,940 --> 00:36:30,770 some buying from the council 654 00:36:30,780 --> 00:36:33,359 so the what you're asking us for tonight 655 00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:35,640 is just to be able to have you be able 656 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:37,380 to move ahead with exploring the 657 00:36:37,380 --> 00:36:39,540 feasibility of how this can happen and 658 00:36:39,540 --> 00:36:41,040 then you'd probably come back to us I 659 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:42,359 could come back with your costs yeah 660 00:36:42,359 --> 00:36:44,760 like I said this is a new process so if 661 00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:46,020 you are authorizing and you're 662 00:36:46,020 --> 00:36:48,599 comfortable with going down this road uh 663 00:36:48,599 --> 00:36:50,339 I can talk with you know I have numerous 664 00:36:50,339 --> 00:36:52,320 firms on a retainer about getting some 665 00:36:52,320 --> 00:36:53,940 costs about what it would be to do and 666 00:36:53,940 --> 00:36:55,520 then I can bring those costs back to you 667 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,800 and we can discuss that I just wanted to 668 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:00,420 make sure that 669 00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:02,839 um you know we're being transparent with 670 00:37:02,839 --> 00:37:05,700 the costs and the process and I believe 671 00:37:05,700 --> 00:37:07,440 you know and once again you can speak 672 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:08,940 more to this if you want as a property 673 00:37:08,940 --> 00:37:10,619 owner right I don't believe the idea is 674 00:37:10,619 --> 00:37:12,900 that this would be assessed to them I 675 00:37:12,900 --> 00:37:14,520 don't know what your investment would be 676 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,560 into the parcels that's kind of what I 677 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,420 invited the property owners this weekend 678 00:37:18,420 --> 00:37:21,660 I never have but typically if this was 679 00:37:21,660 --> 00:37:22,820 you know 680 00:37:22,820 --> 00:37:25,380 1890 we're developing a Street in the 681 00:37:25,380 --> 00:37:27,420 city that they're the owners of that 682 00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:29,520 property all of them were petitioned we 683 00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:30,720 would build the street put in the 684 00:37:30,720 --> 00:37:33,240 utilities sidewalks and just like we 685 00:37:33,240 --> 00:37:35,520 would put them on their tax rolls and 686 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,740 they would pay an assessment for that 687 00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:39,720 work to be done which is very similar to 688 00:37:39,720 --> 00:37:42,720 the sidewalk program gotcha and I'd also 689 00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,359 have to work with Mr Colden in them on 690 00:37:45,359 --> 00:37:48,740 the property owners that are not 691 00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:51,900 necessarily adjacent because also as per 692 00:37:51,900 --> 00:37:54,480 the sidewalk assessment if the majority 693 00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:57,540 do sign up it is assessed to those that 694 00:37:57,540 --> 00:38:00,960 even did not sign on so that could be 695 00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:03,300 the case in this situation so there 696 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,920 could be a cost sharing by people that 697 00:38:04,920 --> 00:38:06,060 don't even know that we're having this 698 00:38:06,060 --> 00:38:08,599 conversation right now 699 00:38:08,599 --> 00:38:11,640 just to clarify the threshold under the 700 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,099 city Charter that Mr Wallen identified 701 00:38:14,099 --> 00:38:17,540 as 25 of the 702 00:38:17,540 --> 00:38:21,780 owners 25 of the linear 703 00:38:21,780 --> 00:38:22,400 um 704 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:25,560 ownership footage ownership so here 705 00:38:25,560 --> 00:38:27,960 we're at I did the calculation that you 706 00:38:27,960 --> 00:38:30,320 have there 58 707 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,940 and Mr Wong I don't know if you know 708 00:38:32,940 --> 00:38:35,339 this I don't recall exactly I believe 709 00:38:35,339 --> 00:38:37,440 there's only one other owner I think all 710 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,079 the other Parcels are owned by one other 711 00:38:40,079 --> 00:38:42,359 individual or you know married a couple 712 00:38:42,359 --> 00:38:44,820 something along those lines 713 00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:46,560 I believe you're right yes there's one 714 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:52,190 other property 715 00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:53,339 no problem 716 00:38:53,339 --> 00:38:56,220 you know asking Mr Wong to move forward 717 00:38:56,220 --> 00:38:58,140 with you know figuring out more details 718 00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:00,420 and of the feasibility of this and then 719 00:39:00,420 --> 00:39:05,400 coming back to us so I mean we're not committing to whatever the 720 00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:07,320 financial parts of it so we definitely 721 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:09,140 need to know that 722 00:39:09,140 --> 00:39:11,339 all right well then we're all up to 723 00:39:11,339 --> 00:39:13,099 speed 724 00:39:13,099 --> 00:39:16,500 like anyone else no no I'm gonna 725 00:39:16,500 --> 00:39:18,480 agreement 726 00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:19,980 all right so we'll make that motion 727 00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:22,079 second all in favor 728 00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,950 um thank you 729 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,940 uh the next item on the agenda is the 730 00:39:26,940 --> 00:39:36,390 final commission appointments 731 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,099 [Music] 732 00:39:38,099 --> 00:39:41,630 um 733 00:39:41,640 --> 00:39:45,770 [Applause] 734 00:39:45,780 --> 00:39:47,700 for a favorable consideration between 735 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,700 the council 736 00:39:49,700 --> 00:39:54,410 any questions 737 00:39:54,420 --> 00:39:57,000 well seconded all in favor 738 00:39:57,000 --> 00:40:00,180 aye nice to see some young young people 739 00:40:00,180 --> 00:40:03,090 getting involved 740 00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:06,290 [Music] 741 00:40:06,300 --> 00:40:08,339 the next item on the agenda is the 742 00:40:08,339 --> 00:40:09,780 appointment 743 00:40:09,780 --> 00:40:11,940 um reappointment for the board of 744 00:40:11,940 --> 00:40:14,520 assessment review uh all of you've got 745 00:40:14,520 --> 00:40:16,740 the letter from the county finance 746 00:40:16,740 --> 00:40:18,480 department saying that Mr Williams who 747 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,300 is currently on the board his 748 00:40:20,300 --> 00:40:23,700 uh his term expired on September 30th 749 00:40:23,700 --> 00:40:26,040 and so this is just something to do a 750 00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:28,380 reappointment to that board 751 00:40:28,380 --> 00:40:31,790 any questions 752 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:34,800 I'll Stand a motion so second all's in 753 00:40:34,800 --> 00:40:36,420 favor 754 00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:38,700 next time on the agenda ceremony we're 755 00:40:38,700 --> 00:40:40,740 actually looking for PD Brothers 55 756 00:40:40,740 --> 00:40:44,040 years of business Mr Helene uh Petey 757 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,380 Brothers has been in business 55 years 758 00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:50,099 and uh it's just a recognition of their 759 00:40:50,099 --> 00:40:53,339 55 years of business as well as Mr 760 00:40:53,339 --> 00:40:54,619 Petey's 761 00:40:54,619 --> 00:40:57,000 philanthropic activities throughout the 762 00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:58,740 community 763 00:40:58,740 --> 00:41:19,830 foreign 764 00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,969 [Music]