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all right I didn't touch that one all

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right thank you very much

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20 seconds

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okay I'll have to add that in yeah I

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mean yeah if it doesn't we have

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I know but I think you're right we

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wanted to try to come in the fields okay

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I'm like okay yeah it's like something

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we're gonna pay for it either way

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it's nice to have it appropriated right

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I missed a gas increase John in the

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questions that I just think of the

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questions yeah I was out all day okay

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great

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they've been working real hard today to

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answer questions so we'll run into

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tomorrow

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we'll review what I have today some of

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them

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um

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today I asked you if we can have two

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um a little bit late I haven't heard

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from Mr Toro yet so I'm assuming she's a speaker I have to take back

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tonight so she's not coming she's not

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coming we haven't heard from her oh

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she's the YWCA speaker tonight I didn't

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hear from you yeah sorry Dora did

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mention that to me yesterday okay

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we're going to be here at six o'clock

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budget hearing session and tonight we're

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dealing with utilities Street lighting

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Mr Ferrari can you just give us another

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is about the department of development

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really comprises like a boring Sony

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appeals to our Planning Commission uh

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the growing Administration and the

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community began uh the total increase of

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the budget is about 205 000 for almost

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four different plans and as we go

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through it you can see what what the

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difference is

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um we also oversee the Community

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um and I think the one of the main

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increases is in our fees for service

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line and that is based on um it's an 80

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000 increase based on our recent

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Community forestry management plan where

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there was a recommendation for the city

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to have an arborists on staff to really

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help us manage the removals maintenance

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um I know this is something that the

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mayor and the council has been very

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supportive of and rather than requesting

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for a full-time position as a memberists

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or starting with you know trying to

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consult with an arborist to get that

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process started as we work with ogs to

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actually implement the forestry plan

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um so that's the main thing there

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we had two new positions this year well

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the assistant planner was a position

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that was vacated in 2018

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um when the person left so that was

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um you know in this year I believe yeah

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we've got that Council and then the we

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just hired a new program an account

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clerk as well

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um to help manage the accounting we had

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beer of gender who retired this year

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um her title was the housing

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rehabilitation specialist I believe

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um but we just wanted to make a broader

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um the program counter who can help us

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with all the Hub stuff but also as we're

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thinking about arpa and what we're

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having to do for that Administration

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um so those are the main things

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are all these position and filled yes

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both the administration and Community

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finally we have a full set full style

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yes and it's it's really um been helpful

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open for questions

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go ahead please okay so um I know last

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year there was a position that you

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wanted to add and we had talked about

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that I think it was like an assistant

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director I can't remember now oh the

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assistant director of development but

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did you switch that to a different title

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is that so that would be the Community

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um yep that position

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um the former title was the program

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Catholic which had been removed from the

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budget when Vera retired we brought that

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position back because we knew it was

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something that we really needed someone

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to really oversee the accounts and I

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want to mention too that Vera was a

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part-time where this is a full-time

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position yes and and

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for 30 years old yeah or really for

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probably yeah the longest of anybody and

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so she just had so much institutional

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knowledge what she did at part-time was

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really not not what most people would be

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able to do

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can you address the other time on on

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their Community Development

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yeah so that was in relation to the

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increase in front

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of that through the cares act so all the

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management of the CV funds

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um our community uh I think it's the CD

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program monitor

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um that position had taken on a lot of

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additional responsibilities

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um but also the administration costs

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were accounted for in the CD funds it

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was nothing that the city ended up

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paying for that came through the grants

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um that were you know get given as part

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of the

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it so it does seem I think um I asked Mr

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Ferrari for a list of all the new

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positions throughout all the apartments

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um and it does have two new positions

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but it sounds like they were already

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filled yes that's why they're not on

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their list because they're filmed this

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year no they're all they're on the list

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assistant

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yes and within the last few weeks

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and they're all films so how do we do

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that I mean we put it in the 2023 budget

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and we hire already

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okay we came to the council yeah we did

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a month ago okay you know we have the

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applications we like to move money for

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these positions

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if you remember the zoning officer that

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used to be in jail in the code's office

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and handling more of the enforcement

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side of it now we have the assistant the

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new assistant plan who's going to run

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the board of zoning appeals

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as in on more on the planning side of

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building

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um so that we we did bring that for you

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guys for approval earlier in the year

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okay sorry

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so the zoning officer was replaced by

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the uh

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and these positions they were just

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filled within the last two to three

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weeks yes yes even though they were

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vacant for a long time ago

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one thing I requested was an increase in

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salary

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greater than the four percent for

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managers um for our homes coordinator

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Bryce Brown III

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um I had requested

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a raise for him just given his impact

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and you know he gave them with the city

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on properties and how you know how

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successful that scientists and um so

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that was something I requested not

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knowing whether or not I could be

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populated

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and so I see what's what's being um

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proposed what did you request I think I

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requested 65

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. thank you and I think it says uh you

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know we did present it to the mayor and

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America just said upon management okay

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yeah which I know happened across the

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board I also requested an increase for

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myself given that most times there's a

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director of Community Development and a

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director of planning I'm both

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I think it was just the four percent

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across the board that was allocated

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any other questions

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seeing none thank you thank you

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This was um

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yesterday at your department

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um came into a discussion and there were

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many questions I was asked concerns of

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um you made a requests to have a

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separate Department

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and the question was asked

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why wasn't it granted

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then also the question was asked and

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they wanted to know more about what we

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were doing foreign

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retirement compliance with subcontractor

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and things like that

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so we think it's fitting there we bring

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in here from you directly rather than we

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just make an assumption so I will invite

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you to kind of walk us through your

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department what you're currently doing

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the work you're doing in terms of

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compliance with mwbs or contractors and the center here and then

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we will actually talk about um

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people

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again thank you so much for the

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opportunity to come forth with the

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when I came home board here five years

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ago now it was

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with the onset of how do we make a

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difference in terms of what we were

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seeing in the city and how do we make a

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difference in terms of creating economic

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and Contracting opportunities for our

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residents within the city and what we

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see is in the traditional route of the

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way things normally done with compliance

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and affirmative action you really don't

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take a proactive role in creating

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opportunities and make an activity so

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like always dealing after the fact

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to why wasn't we getting enough uh

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opportunity why wasn't we building the

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capacity of the firms and why don't we

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have the capacity of each other

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Workforce on development so hence that's

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how we launched our Workforce initiative

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and just give you a little bit of

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background on that

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we're probably three years into you know

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counting the code activity so we've had

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about 150 people

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go through that program

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at this juncture we're into the last

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class of the workforce fees the person

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just wrapped up in June

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tomorrow it's the last day for the

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second quarter in this year and he still

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passed that 15 students each so they've

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gone to 125 hour training field screen

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which is the fourth curriculum

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and uh of the

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150 right now originally we had 56

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graduated in the first 90 and this one

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here we've got 30 um

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in the first round we had I was 26

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people were Gateway employees I think

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560 graduated 26 we gave you the

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employees a 26th job that we actually

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you know created

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nowhere to this last group out of the 30

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people that we have now uh 15 13 of them

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successfully committed the course in

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June nine of them with the gameplay

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employed six of them invented trades in

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carpenters union and the uh late the

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157. and then now tomorrow they'll wrap

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up this lasts from 15 of them completed

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it out of the 15 that went in and

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they've all got commitments if they want

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to move forward to the next level

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they've all got commitments where

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they're going to get into an

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apprenticeship program you know moving

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on to the next level and and that's uh

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that's huge in in many regards because

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we talk about how you change that

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dynamic because it's always been a big

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challenge in terms of getting folks

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the other part of the equation is once

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you train this Workforce you know

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whether it's a better job so you got to

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build a capacity and train more uh small

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businesses that's going to hire you know

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but we got to create businesses from

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this community or from this area that's

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more in tune to hire and give these

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folks a chance now a classic example of

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what I'm talking about how these two

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pieces come together I invited Michael

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diorio here he's with a happy election

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now three years old I got first class he

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was one of those first ones that started

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with that and if you don't mind I I can

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tell your story because he's here you

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can answering questions and this will

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give you an idea of why

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it's not just a matter of chasing

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numbers but we're really changing

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people's lives he was in a bad space in

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his life with depression and not you

350
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know making it happen not making any

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money and having a lot of problems you

352
00:29:28,320 --> 00:29:30,899
know with the union he came into came

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into me and we talked about what he

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wanted to do he wanted to start a

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business we helped him start his

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business a year later we help him get

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certified as a certified MBE he's also a

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servant disabled veteran

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and he's on track and going for twenty

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thousand dollars a year he probably did

361
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four or five hundred thousand dollars

362
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640
last year and he's on track to really

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making a difference

364
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:55,799
anytime people so he's hired two but if

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you spend 15 20 minutes a day on all

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that type of thing you know it takes it

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takes time and then if our mission is to

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create and build capacity you know

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that's what we're here to do to help

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build you know those businesses in

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addition to that

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we've been on a regular basis we host uh

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workshops and things for training we

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work with many partners we work a lot of

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hood comes in uh last month we did a

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Regional training where they came in

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from Buffalo and we have the Regional

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training residence over the uh

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and it talks about her opportunity and

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00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,059
all the agencies that receive our money

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with opportunities about how contractors

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00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:40,140
would get involved but that's that's

383
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huge in the sense that they're looking

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at cementally as a leader in that regard

385
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to bring those Sports together so we

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bring people from Albany Utica to all

387
00:30:49,799 --> 00:30:51,240
those folks came here for that type of

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00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:52,440
training but we do that on a regular

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basis and and working with the state uh

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we have an mou economy with the Empire

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State development which provide access

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to Capital finding assistance and things

393
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,159
like that so we're trying to build these

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00:31:05,159 --> 00:31:07,080
firms up so down can you know get the

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job opportunity but they can get the

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00:31:08,820 --> 00:31:10,620
funding and the bonding necessary to

397
00:31:10,620 --> 00:31:12,960
execute the job and then they could be

398
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more competitive and going after our

399
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Contracting opportunities

400
00:31:17,820 --> 00:31:20,520
how does it relates to the economic

401
00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,559
Center they don't promise said you know

402
00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:24,539
there's a lot there and you know please

403
00:31:24,539 --> 00:31:26,580
don't you know go through now but

404
00:31:26,580 --> 00:31:30,840
imagine uh a wagon wheel with a hug okay

405
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,360
the environment Center is is that Hub

406
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,860
where you bring up all of these

407
00:31:34,860 --> 00:31:36,059
collaborations all these different

408
00:31:36,059 --> 00:31:37,679
partners all these industry and

409
00:31:37,679 --> 00:31:40,380
Industrial experts to facilitate a

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00:31:40,380 --> 00:31:41,940
common objective which is to create

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00:31:41,940 --> 00:31:44,700
opportunity for Contracting opportunity

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00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:46,320
with us and as well as a job

413
00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:47,580
opportunities

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00:31:47,580 --> 00:31:49,799
so we work with a variety of areas

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00:31:49,799 --> 00:31:50,940
dealing with

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00:31:50,940 --> 00:31:54,419
access the capital training Workforce

417
00:31:54,419 --> 00:31:56,340
Development you know just anything that

418
00:31:56,340 --> 00:31:57,480
you want to do we want to create an

419
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,000
environment so when you walk in to this

420
00:32:00,000 --> 00:32:02,039
place you know that everybody in this

421
00:32:02,039 --> 00:32:03,899
Jack's back you got a place where you

422
00:32:03,899 --> 00:32:05,100
can ask questions you can have the

423
00:32:05,100 --> 00:32:07,440
nation you know if your resources tapped

424
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,240
in you know mentoring whatever you need

425
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,220
that's the space that we're trying to

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00:32:11,220 --> 00:32:13,740
create the purpose of having a red and

427
00:32:13,740 --> 00:32:15,720
the Heart of the community because

428
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:17,880
that's what a creative need is

429
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,000
when we first came on board here you can

430
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,820
look around and see yeah we put a lot of

431
00:32:23,820 --> 00:32:26,340
money and we did 20 million dollars with

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00:32:26,340 --> 00:32:29,159
TCP we did 49 office development or

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00:32:29,159 --> 00:32:31,799
whatever but the reality is yeah you put

434
00:32:31,799 --> 00:32:33,419
20 and 30 million dollars in to

435
00:32:33,419 --> 00:32:35,220
communicate with that young man that

436
00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:37,320
lived on Hillary Street and all this

437
00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:39,419
week did not get a job opportunity

438
00:32:39,419 --> 00:32:41,880
and they don't you know and they look at

439
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,380
you why can't I get a job that's sweet

440
00:32:43,380 --> 00:32:45,059
and speak you know what does that say

441
00:32:45,059 --> 00:32:47,700
you know so applying for

442
00:32:47,700 --> 00:32:49,500
you know opportunities to do the

443
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,120
applications how do you create that

444
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:53,159
dialogue so where that bridge to sort of

445
00:32:53,159 --> 00:32:55,260
make those connections and make a

446
00:32:55,260 --> 00:32:56,880
difference and that's the reality that

447
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,220
we deal with on everyday basis and

448
00:32:59,220 --> 00:33:01,020
that's why it's important to have this

449
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:03,720
type of facility there to do that just

450
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:05,760
that and again we're not trying to say

451
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,520
that we create programs you know you

452
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:09,659
know we're not doing that we're just

453
00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:11,880
becoming that up to facilitate the

454
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:13,980
conversation with any different partners

455
00:33:13,980 --> 00:33:16,679
together you know to make a difference

456
00:33:16,679 --> 00:33:18,539
so that's why that's the connection

457
00:33:18,539 --> 00:33:20,820
between but they're intertwined together

458
00:33:20,820 --> 00:33:23,279
where you can't do one without the other

459
00:33:23,279 --> 00:33:25,980
because if the objective is to follow

460
00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:27,240
the mission and the mission to create

461
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,279
Economic Opportunity prosperity for our

462
00:33:29,279 --> 00:33:31,500
community how do we do that you know

463
00:33:31,500 --> 00:33:33,120
this is how we do it through education

464
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:34,440
through training through working with

465
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,580
the school district work with the

466
00:33:35,580 --> 00:33:36,779
Community College working with the

467
00:33:36,779 --> 00:33:38,700
industry and making all those cases

468
00:33:38,700 --> 00:33:41,220
happen so that's why this is also

469
00:33:41,220 --> 00:33:43,860
critically important and necessary to do

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00:33:43,860 --> 00:33:45,000
it

471
00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:47,940
the reason for the request for the

472
00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:50,399
budget is there's a lot in that alphabet

473
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:52,260
suit and

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00:33:52,260 --> 00:33:53,159
um

475
00:33:53,159 --> 00:33:55,559
you can't do it especially with one

476
00:33:55,559 --> 00:33:58,080
person I mean we need uh you know the

477
00:33:58,080 --> 00:33:59,820
data entry person just to track down The

478
00:33:59,820 --> 00:34:01,260
Daily tell you what's happening we want

479
00:34:01,260 --> 00:34:02,519
to know who these people are where they

480
00:34:02,519 --> 00:34:04,260
come from and how do we check for the

481
00:34:04,260 --> 00:34:05,700
next five years to see what the impact

482
00:34:05,700 --> 00:34:07,740
is so that's that's one

483
00:34:07,740 --> 00:34:10,080
the other part is we have to go after

484
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,359
the rent we we spend more time this year

485
00:34:12,359 --> 00:34:13,879
going at the ground up to come and see

486
00:34:13,879 --> 00:34:17,159
and uh you know funding to support this

487
00:34:17,159 --> 00:34:20,820
thing bringing in uh outside uh experts

488
00:34:20,820 --> 00:34:22,859
to help us uh just in this document that

489
00:34:22,859 --> 00:34:24,540
you have right here this was nothing

490
00:34:24,540 --> 00:34:26,159
that we created right here by ourselves

491
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:28,260
in a back-end now we had people from

492
00:34:28,260 --> 00:34:29,940
across the country out there I had

493
00:34:29,940 --> 00:34:31,919
people from Birmingham Alabama Austin

494
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:34,560
Texas New Jersey they all had tremendous

495
00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:36,359
impact in terms of what we're doing but

496
00:34:36,359 --> 00:34:38,040
again

497
00:34:38,040 --> 00:34:40,320
this all comes about because of the

498
00:34:40,320 --> 00:34:42,780
relationship that we have with people in

499
00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:44,760
the hub and you know traveling around

500
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,460
like I'm a part of the training service

501
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:49,679
so we go around the country's different

502
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,540
places and we talk about what we do here

503
00:34:51,540 --> 00:34:53,879
at Schenectady and the highlights that

504
00:34:53,879 --> 00:34:56,159
we get every time we go is the fact that

505
00:34:56,159 --> 00:34:59,099
we create an atmosphere of java

506
00:34:59,099 --> 00:35:00,420
opportunities we like what we've done

507
00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:02,280
with the Workforce Development and all

508
00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,660
those type of things and we we're

509
00:35:03,660 --> 00:35:05,220
compared to what they're doing like in

510
00:35:05,220 --> 00:35:07,440
Chicago and that's why the answers to

511
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,119
come around to talk about you know those

512
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:10,980
type of things that we do because we

513
00:35:10,980 --> 00:35:12,000
really seriously making a difference

514
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,160
ain't nobody in this scaffolding nobody

515
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:15,300
in this region isn't doing anything

516
00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:17,460
close to what we're doing in fact

517
00:35:17,460 --> 00:35:19,500
they're coming to be a part of what

518
00:35:19,500 --> 00:35:22,140
we're trying to do Saratoga Albany

519
00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:23,940
Georgia you know those folks are coming

520
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:26,040
to us on a daily basis to participating

521
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,079
in health you know do what we're trying

522
00:35:28,079 --> 00:35:29,400
to do so

523
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:32,040
I think we got something special here we

524
00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:33,420
need to get this government and health

525
00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:36,320
and government for every random day and

526
00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:39,780
I think I look at it like

527
00:35:39,780 --> 00:35:42,839
there's a friend of mine Arthur Eve from

528
00:35:42,839 --> 00:35:46,500
the State Assembly he talks about yeah

529
00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:49,200
the people's budget this is the people's

530
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,000
name this is this is for the people this

531
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,820
I think this community preserves this I

532
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:55,079
think

533
00:35:55,079 --> 00:35:57,300
if we're going to do this and do the

534
00:35:57,300 --> 00:35:58,320
things that we're talking about trying

535
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,300
to do and make a transformation

536
00:36:00,300 --> 00:36:04,020
it's just all inclusive program that

537
00:36:04,020 --> 00:36:05,280
we're talking about we're talking about

538
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,440
how do we get involved with redeveloping

539
00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,240
the hill I believe people want to live

540
00:36:09,240 --> 00:36:11,579
there can you just imagine we're going

541
00:36:11,579 --> 00:36:13,560
to recruit a police officer a young man

542
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:15,240
a young lady from Hamilton Hill that

543
00:36:15,240 --> 00:36:17,640
want to be a police officer we created a

544
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:19,320
battle where they can buy a house here

545
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:20,820
and they're living in the community a

546
00:36:20,820 --> 00:36:23,160
nice new house and he does duplicating

547
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:25,260
that over and over we're going to change

548
00:36:25,260 --> 00:36:27,240
and transform what we're doing because

549
00:36:27,240 --> 00:36:29,040
we change Dynamic of what we're trying

550
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,880
to do

551
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:31,380
you know as people and that we're

552
00:36:31,380 --> 00:36:33,480
serious about making a difference and

553
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:35,280
not just talking about it you know this

554
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:37,140
is how we do it we want to create you

555
00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:39,599
know economic wealth

556
00:36:39,599 --> 00:36:42,420
so that's why we do what we do if you

557
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:44,220
want to get it done you know we're

558
00:36:44,220 --> 00:36:46,440
serious about making it happen we're

559
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:48,180
very serious about results are oriented

560
00:36:48,180 --> 00:36:50,640
and not just here

561
00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:52,619
pretty soon

562
00:36:52,619 --> 00:36:55,380
can you touch on your uh evolvements

563
00:36:55,380 --> 00:36:57,300
your office involvement in terms of

564
00:36:57,300 --> 00:36:59,160
reviewing the

565
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,859
Eis I guess that's wrong yeah the

566
00:37:01,859 --> 00:37:03,480
invoice from the subcontractor

567
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:08,290
contractors yeah

568
00:37:08,300 --> 00:37:11,880
so we're involved with all of the uh the

569
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,500
bidding process from the church again I

570
00:37:13,500 --> 00:37:15,660
have a very closer to Chris and hit his

571
00:37:15,660 --> 00:37:17,820
apartment and in which Elder evolved and

572
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:19,320
tell them how do we tackle this problem

573
00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,260
it is huge you know because you got on

574
00:37:22,260 --> 00:37:23,579
the one hand you've got product that you

575
00:37:23,579 --> 00:37:25,320
want to get done and we also have

576
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:27,240
responsibilities in terms of how do we

577
00:37:27,240 --> 00:37:29,520
have an impact in our community and make

578
00:37:29,520 --> 00:37:32,400
a difference so I do I I will do all of

579
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,099
this that goes out you know and I

580
00:37:35,099 --> 00:37:37,590
participate in all of the

581
00:37:37,590 --> 00:37:42,200
[Music]

582
00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:44,820
and we work to you know get the issue

583
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:47,520
resolved sometimes

584
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,200
you know some of it's more difficult

585
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:50,820
than others and you know to be honest

586
00:37:50,820 --> 00:37:52,680
and we have to work with but it's a give

587
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,599
and take process and we do work with it

588
00:37:54,599 --> 00:37:56,880
but at the end of the day we are giving

589
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,640
people uh on jobs like the recent

590
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:06,790
project at the Schenectady police stage

591
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:16,690
police station

592
00:38:16,700 --> 00:38:19,320
and uh

593
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:21,420
other things we have to work out you

594
00:38:21,420 --> 00:38:24,000
know uh but yeah I participate in in

595
00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:25,260
that to make sure that we're going to

596
00:38:25,260 --> 00:38:28,500
apply and and it doesn't matter how far

597
00:38:28,500 --> 00:38:30,359
we push it together and you know give

598
00:38:30,359 --> 00:38:32,099
them those that we keep things moving

599
00:38:32,099 --> 00:38:33,599
you know in the right direction so we

600
00:38:33,599 --> 00:38:35,880
are moving and the more we work with the

601
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,500
Department that's you know putting the

602
00:38:37,500 --> 00:38:39,000
biz out and the more they realize that

603
00:38:39,000 --> 00:38:41,520
we have a student program here the more

604
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:43,020
uh you know you're going to see the

605
00:38:43,020 --> 00:38:44,940
results that we need to see and Chris

606
00:38:44,940 --> 00:38:47,579
could tell you that you know in looking

607
00:38:47,579 --> 00:38:49,880
at the kind of thing he gets from around

608
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,700
they said we got the most stringent

609
00:38:52,700 --> 00:38:55,380
combined requirements you know in the

610
00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:58,079
region but we also get the results you

611
00:38:58,079 --> 00:39:00,300
know if the contract is not in

612
00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:02,040
compliance uh you know they put

613
00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:03,300
something out it's not there you know

614
00:39:03,300 --> 00:39:04,859
we're holding payments

615
00:39:04,859 --> 00:39:06,780
and uh you know you know the government

616
00:39:06,780 --> 00:39:07,859
can find

617
00:39:07,859 --> 00:39:09,599
um we've had things go back out the bid

618
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:11,220
because they you know didn't want to

619
00:39:11,220 --> 00:39:13,220
play fast so we have a lot of true

620
00:39:13,220 --> 00:39:16,440
within that framework you know to work

621
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:19,079
and I think with the council support and

622
00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:21,000
supportive Administration

623
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,280
we have we can do much more we can do

624
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:26,820
much much more but uh but for the tools

625
00:39:26,820 --> 00:39:28,260
are there and it doesn't need the

626
00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:29,640
support to make it happen so that's how

627
00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:32,160
we do it we work with within the policy

628
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,079
uh we do have obviously you know

629
00:39:34,079 --> 00:39:36,420
projects

630
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:38,400
whether we keep up with them I do visit

631
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:40,260
the sites

632
00:39:40,260 --> 00:39:41,700
yeah

633
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:44,339
so are you seeing an increase in the

634
00:39:44,339 --> 00:39:46,859
mwbe and our goals are we getting better

635
00:39:46,859 --> 00:39:48,780
than we were we get we're getting better

636
00:39:48,780 --> 00:39:51,960
but the numbers are still not what it

637
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,920
need to be because we've got to build

638
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,320
capacity I'll give you an example you

639
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,119
know we have uh you know bonding

640
00:39:57,119 --> 00:39:58,859
requirements you know if you get the

641
00:39:58,859 --> 00:40:01,920
bond um you know there's a big list so

642
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,440
working with the state and you know

643
00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:05,760
dealing with those challenges and

644
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,500
preparing folks so we have to spend a

645
00:40:07,500 --> 00:40:09,660
lot of time on the front end working

646
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:12,540
with a contractor to you know to get

647
00:40:12,540 --> 00:40:14,460
there you know but you know for example

648
00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:15,900
you know something that you know they

649
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:17,700
might want to build on we got to sit

650
00:40:17,700 --> 00:40:18,960
down and just go through his life

651
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:20,040
history and say this is what they're

652
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,540
going to ask you you know are you ready

653
00:40:21,540 --> 00:40:23,820
and that's how we present it we're going

654
00:40:23,820 --> 00:40:25,500
to move the quote but

655
00:40:25,500 --> 00:40:28,619
yes we are seeing differences uh it's a

656
00:40:28,619 --> 00:40:30,180
lot easier to talk to contractors now

657
00:40:30,180 --> 00:40:32,640
than it was a year ago they know they

658
00:40:32,640 --> 00:40:35,760
were serious uh they they generally come

659
00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:37,980
prepared to you know make things happen

660
00:40:37,980 --> 00:40:39,839
you got a couple out there a couple

661
00:40:39,839 --> 00:40:42,119
other big boys I think

662
00:40:42,119 --> 00:40:44,880
you know that we're getting there we're getting

663
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:46,380
there

664
00:40:46,380 --> 00:40:48,300
go ahead please

665
00:40:48,300 --> 00:40:50,880
um in terms of breaking down like right

666
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,280
now affirmative action is within our HR

667
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:54,660
department

668
00:40:54,660 --> 00:40:56,820
um and I can see some of the obviously

669
00:40:56,820 --> 00:40:59,820
with the recruiting help that you do for

670
00:40:59,820 --> 00:41:01,980
the police and the fire

671
00:41:01,980 --> 00:41:03,599
um I'm sure maybe there's some

672
00:41:03,599 --> 00:41:06,000
complaints maybe within our employee

673
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,800
Workforce that also would come under

674
00:41:07,800 --> 00:41:10,140
affirmative action but it's sounding

675
00:41:10,140 --> 00:41:12,900
like um well I want to ask you like when

676
00:41:12,900 --> 00:41:14,339
you think about

677
00:41:14,339 --> 00:41:16,440
um the office in general and then

678
00:41:16,440 --> 00:41:19,140
building a new Department it sounds like

679
00:41:19,140 --> 00:41:21,960
a lot is what's the percentage

680
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,119
um would you say of how your work

681
00:41:24,119 --> 00:41:26,880
yourself breaks down in terms of whether

682
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,180
it's HR affirmative action or whether

683
00:41:30,180 --> 00:41:31,040
it's

684
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,660
Workforce Development well we do get uh

685
00:41:33,660 --> 00:41:35,099
complaints with that if that's the

686
00:41:35,099 --> 00:41:36,900
question you know in terms of things

687
00:41:36,900 --> 00:41:40,320
like that but it's it's a typical it's a

688
00:41:40,320 --> 00:41:42,540
there's a delicate balance you know

689
00:41:42,540 --> 00:41:45,180
within that question uh I've had people

690
00:41:45,180 --> 00:41:46,980
come to me you know with a question of

691
00:41:46,980 --> 00:41:49,260
concern but they were left unless they

692
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:51,660
can put something away so if they don't

693
00:41:51,660 --> 00:41:54,780
put it in writing what I'm concerned you

694
00:41:54,780 --> 00:41:56,880
know it don't have work but the issue

695
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:01,320
that they have is is serious sure and I agree with that but I couldn't

696
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,000
come to you and say okay we got an issue

697
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:05,400
and then they back out and said oh well

698
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,619
you know but they want to put it in

699
00:42:07,619 --> 00:42:09,900
writings and move forward yes we do that

700
00:42:09,900 --> 00:42:13,320
I work closely with Marianne and HR

701
00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,300
utility was here I worked with her and

702
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:17,339
we went to the same speech you know came

703
00:42:17,339 --> 00:42:19,920
to see that look at that for Andrew so

704
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,900
when there's a question Andrew is my

705
00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:25,500
go-to person you know so whatever comes

706
00:42:25,500 --> 00:42:27,300
up that's how I was doing but you know

707
00:42:27,300 --> 00:42:30,180
we had an incident this summer where uh

708
00:42:30,180 --> 00:42:33,540
somebody uh had a mission and you know

709
00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:36,180
and they followed them playing but the

710
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:38,160
challenge there was you know without

711
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:39,960
getting into the details it was

712
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:41,400
something that they talked about for a

713
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:43,920
while but they never wanted to move

714
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:45,380
you know

715
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:47,940
I said no that's not right you can't

716
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:49,680
just say you need to talk about it you

717
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:53,880
need to come and do it so so they did do

718
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:56,040
that and then once that was done we then

719
00:42:56,040 --> 00:43:02,110
investigate it

720
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:09,710
[Music]

721
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:12,060
some of the things I get is

722
00:43:12,060 --> 00:43:14,400
and this is a challenge for me is people

723
00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,980
of crime so I'm out here advocating and

724
00:43:16,980 --> 00:43:19,200
pushing for opportunity to see so I said

725
00:43:19,200 --> 00:43:22,079
we've got 126 positions available yeah

726
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:25,020
he said I need customers PDF so we got

727
00:43:25,020 --> 00:43:27,900
six people that we've paid for you know

728
00:43:27,900 --> 00:43:29,760
work with the county to get the CDL

729
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:31,800
license and then when they're applying

730
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:34,740
you know something is is missing you

731
00:43:34,740 --> 00:43:35,819
know they're not getting through but

732
00:43:35,819 --> 00:43:37,140
whatever you know one reason or another

733
00:43:37,140 --> 00:43:41,400
but you know we're getting them and so we got to have a better tracking

734
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,740
mechanism of how these applications are

735
00:43:43,740 --> 00:43:45,300
coming in you know where they're going

736
00:43:45,300 --> 00:43:46,460
and

737
00:43:46,460 --> 00:43:49,079
you know really you know get into the

738
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:54,760
weeds of that because that's

739
00:43:54,770 --> 00:44:03,550
[Music]

740
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:07,140
did you get in favor from this place

741
00:44:07,140 --> 00:44:09,300
I need to follow up on what's happening

742
00:44:09,300 --> 00:44:11,640
with that person you know and

743
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,560
you know sometimes she has and sometimes

744
00:44:13,560 --> 00:44:18,420
she don't and uh but it's it's it's a

745
00:44:18,420 --> 00:44:20,099
process that we have to do I think we

746
00:44:20,099 --> 00:44:21,359
need to talk more about that because

747
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:23,880
they did a serious value of dealing with

748
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:25,680
this thing and um

749
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:28,079
a lot of it comes down to get back into

750
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:29,640
social service and what's a lot of

751
00:44:29,640 --> 00:44:32,099
what's going on you know it's just a

752
00:44:32,099 --> 00:44:34,020
problem and people with you know

753
00:44:34,020 --> 00:44:39,190
especially not frustrated I'm sure

754
00:44:39,200 --> 00:44:42,260
that's you know that's that's the normal

755
00:44:42,260 --> 00:44:44,520
routine you know we you know actually

756
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:46,319
really are

757
00:44:46,319 --> 00:44:48,900
you know folks coming into town we may

758
00:44:48,900 --> 00:44:50,819
have visited all of them but they moved

759
00:44:50,819 --> 00:44:52,200
to Schenectady but because their resume

760
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:55,260
was called me on that they didn't they

761
00:44:55,260 --> 00:44:57,900
got kicked out and you know but nobody

762
00:44:57,900 --> 00:45:00,359
follows up to say you know just that

763
00:45:00,359 --> 00:45:02,880
type of stuff you know so we need to

764
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,500
you know people

765
00:45:04,500 --> 00:45:06,420
better you know

766
00:45:06,420 --> 00:45:08,280
the fact we're trying to get more CDL

767
00:45:08,280 --> 00:45:09,900
Drivers back and

768
00:45:09,900 --> 00:45:13,490
um

769
00:45:13,500 --> 00:45:17,520
you know again because this is a process

770
00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,640
and I go downtown so we can get an

771
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,460
application from this person you know so

772
00:45:23,460 --> 00:45:24,540
we just got to come up with a better

773
00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:26,760
mechanism to do that but that's

774
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,319
something that's just time consumable we

775
00:45:28,319 --> 00:45:35,510
are pushing and

776
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:37,520
[Music]

777
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:47,770
so the point is all those stuff

778
00:45:47,780 --> 00:45:50,339
so that it makes sense to you know what

779
00:45:50,339 --> 00:45:53,520
we're trying to do and then uh and the

780
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,380
other person that's that's critical to

781
00:45:55,380 --> 00:45:58,920
this equation is uh you know what I call

782
00:45:58,920 --> 00:46:00,660
like a program coordinator like me going

783
00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:02,099
after the granting the funding and

784
00:46:02,099 --> 00:46:04,140
basically driving a bus on these

785
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:06,480
activities you know and

786
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,520
I think you know there's a lot that

787
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:11,160
happens uh you know in there so it's

788
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:14,220
critical that one that as we move

789
00:46:14,220 --> 00:46:15,839
forward on these programs and things

790
00:46:15,839 --> 00:46:18,060
that we you know get them done in that

791
00:46:18,060 --> 00:46:19,880
conversation because

792
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,079
the benefits and we're trying to get

793
00:46:22,079 --> 00:46:26,460
through communities is working and um

794
00:46:26,460 --> 00:46:30,970
invest that's that's the way it is

795
00:46:30,980 --> 00:46:34,079
here I think there's a great thing on

796
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:37,260
the horizon for us and we need to set

797
00:46:37,260 --> 00:46:39,420
the infrastructure in place so that we

798
00:46:39,420 --> 00:46:43,849
can execute

799
00:46:43,859 --> 00:46:46,079
go ahead well Mr Gardner I really

800
00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:47,460
appreciate you coming here and I think

801
00:46:47,460 --> 00:46:49,200
any person listening and those in the

802
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:52,490
room

803
00:46:52,500 --> 00:46:56,280
the the magnitude that you are achieving

804
00:46:56,280 --> 00:46:58,980
here already singly if we're just being

805
00:46:58,980 --> 00:47:01,319
honest and transparent what seems

806
00:47:01,319 --> 00:47:03,900
apparent in addition to that is the fact

807
00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:05,640
that you need a team and a supportive

808
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,740
backing to achieve more and it's not

809
00:47:07,740 --> 00:47:09,599
that you are not actively working at the

810
00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:12,540
moment it is just your expectations and

811
00:47:12,540 --> 00:47:14,520
also your your foresight with where this

812
00:47:14,520 --> 00:47:17,700
program can reach you require additional

813
00:47:17,700 --> 00:47:20,280
support so outside of Staffing can you

814
00:47:20,280 --> 00:47:22,260
highlight any additional like challenges

815
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:26,160
or limitations that are making it uh or

816
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,980
say impeding our continued development

817
00:47:28,980 --> 00:47:30,960
in this area of

818
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:33,000
economic stability and prosperity in the

819
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:36,960
city center well well

820
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:39,180
here's a lot there's there's a lot there

821
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:42,119
and it's not it's not that we're not

822
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:44,400
trying I mean every department is trying

823
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,680
you know when a problem with the police

824
00:47:46,680 --> 00:47:48,480
department they are literally trying

825
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,000
they're doing everything they can but

826
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:52,680
there's a lot that goes on you know like

827
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:56,040
for example we had uh a young man who

828
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:58,020
was a single father

829
00:47:58,020 --> 00:48:01,319
and he was unemployed so we definitely

830
00:48:01,319 --> 00:48:06,670
got him a job on the construction site

831
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:09,480
so he had his paper was Transportation

832
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,380
there they paid for the lodging and

833
00:48:12,380 --> 00:48:15,119
bills there and plus he was getting 50

834
00:48:15,119 --> 00:48:17,160
bucks an hour the problem that he only

835
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:18,960
worked three days why did he worked

836
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:20,880
three days because he had a child and he

837
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:26,460
couldn't get child care so Child Care is a serious problem that's for sure and

838
00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:30,550
uh so even though he

839
00:48:30,560 --> 00:48:34,200
that's the reality that we you know in

840
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:37,260
the comment I get a lot of porch out

841
00:48:37,260 --> 00:48:40,680
there yeah you can but he can't he

842
00:48:40,680 --> 00:48:44,089
couldn't find it yeah

843
00:48:44,099 --> 00:48:47,339
the other thing that I find um is a

844
00:48:47,339 --> 00:48:49,619
challenge and again we have to recognize

845
00:48:49,619 --> 00:48:52,500
we have to get more with these wrap

846
00:48:52,500 --> 00:48:54,540
around Support Services

847
00:48:54,540 --> 00:48:56,099
but have uh

848
00:48:56,099 --> 00:48:57,839
you know all kind of barriers you know

849
00:48:57,839 --> 00:49:00,060
you don't get the best of a person to do

850
00:49:00,060 --> 00:49:02,339
what about a group over again you know

851
00:49:02,339 --> 00:49:03,960
whether they have food to put a child

852
00:49:03,960 --> 00:49:06,960
for this week you know you know mental

853
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:09,140
emotional issues you know all of that

854
00:49:09,140 --> 00:49:13,260
stuff uh plays in there so so so to

855
00:49:13,260 --> 00:49:15,119
answer the question specifically there

856
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,579
was more in collaborative effort with

857
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:20,280
our partners like scap uh you know the

858
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:22,740
county uh the state and all those types

859
00:49:22,740 --> 00:49:25,680
of things to to genuinely do those type

860
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:30,060
of Support Services you know that's what we need more of and that's

861
00:49:30,060 --> 00:49:32,099
sort of like what we're doing we have

862
00:49:32,099 --> 00:49:34,140
the software that we use for our

863
00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:36,300
Workforce manager as an LCB tracker

864
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,339
where everybody that we engage with

865
00:49:38,339 --> 00:49:39,839
whether you're on a small business side

866
00:49:39,839 --> 00:49:42,119
or an individual it goes into the system

867
00:49:42,119 --> 00:49:44,520
and we're able to track everything that

868
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:45,780
happened with that person so let's say

869
00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:48,060
they needed housing I can make a

870
00:49:48,060 --> 00:49:51,300
referral over to you know somebody with

871
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:53,760
a scat and they will get a message and

872
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:55,020
then they would they can go into the

873
00:49:55,020 --> 00:49:56,460
same system and say okay yeah we

874
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:59,400
received Jones and we run a system with

875
00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:00,900
this Gabrielle you know you can know

876
00:50:00,900 --> 00:50:03,000
what's happening you know with that

877
00:50:03,000 --> 00:50:04,680
scenario

878
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,680
the other part of is you know we work

879
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,420
closely with the community college and

880
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,280
the career Counseling Center so they do

881
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,800
all of our intake for the folks coming

882
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:15,420
into the program whether it's on a small

883
00:50:15,420 --> 00:50:17,520
business side of other issues so that's

884
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:20,040
one part of the way how we're able to

885
00:50:20,040 --> 00:50:22,740
manage you know some of it but they're

886
00:50:22,740 --> 00:50:26,880
overwhelmed too you know so we're doing the best we can

887
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,640
with that but but there's some tools out

888
00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,560
there that's helping us and we have that

889
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:34,680
in place and moving forward and we can

890
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:36,119
have all the software in the world but

891
00:50:36,119 --> 00:50:39,119
we can't get the data in there and

892
00:50:39,119 --> 00:50:42,960
manage the data you know you know it

893
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:44,220
doesn't do anything that's like

894
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:46,200
something on the Shelf but we have the

895
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:48,059
ability to to really make a difference

896
00:50:48,059 --> 00:50:50,760
here I'm excited about the prospects of

897
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:52,380
being able to work with these small

898
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:54,660
businesses that we get this Center open

899
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:57,540
where we'll be able to offer mentoring

900
00:50:57,540 --> 00:50:59,700
support of counseling support you know

901
00:50:59,700 --> 00:51:02,160
anything they need to grow successfully

902
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:04,260
so they've been and it's not going to be

903
00:51:04,260 --> 00:51:06,720
labor intensive you know just utilizing

904
00:51:06,720 --> 00:51:08,640
the technology and the resources and the

905
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:10,800
collaborative efforts that we have you

906
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:12,619
know to make a difference

907
00:51:12,619 --> 00:51:15,059
the software is not in your budget

908
00:51:15,059 --> 00:51:17,220
request so wouldn't you need the um

909
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:20,400
software as well yeah yeah but this year

910
00:51:20,400 --> 00:51:26,990
we've been recovered out of CDG oh okay

911
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:29,760
go ahead please so forgive me if you

912
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,880
want to address this um so I know when

913
00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,559
you're just manufactured to your

914
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:36,660
position so I know um you're doing some

915
00:51:36,660 --> 00:51:38,940
a lot of great work with people trying

916
00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:40,559
to get them you know the training that

917
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:42,000
they need so they can be gainfully

918
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:43,740
employed I also know that you're working

919
00:51:43,740 --> 00:51:46,800
with the city I'm trying to help us meet

920
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:50,940
our mwpe goals and I know that this I

921
00:51:50,940 --> 00:51:52,559
believe the state just increased those

922
00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:56,099
MW the threshold and WV equals and I was

923
00:51:56,099 --> 00:51:57,420
wondering

924
00:51:57,420 --> 00:52:03,000
um are we close to reaching that goal yet

925
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:05,700
we are we're making progress uh you know

926
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:09,839
the reality is it depends on what uh

927
00:52:09,839 --> 00:52:13,380
what it is I mean if you got a specialty

928
00:52:13,380 --> 00:52:16,980
project you know building uh drilling

929
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:19,740
Wells 200 feet in the ground you know

930
00:52:19,740 --> 00:52:22,680
it's hard to get firms you know that's

931
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,020
in that space and

932
00:52:25,020 --> 00:52:27,300
um but so you know but we are pretty

933
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,819
interesting you know and recognize that

934
00:52:29,819 --> 00:52:32,040
in the building the capacity of

935
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,960
in front of coming along and the way

936
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,240
that I'm looking at addressing that

937
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:39,599
particular question is to grow and

938
00:52:39,599 --> 00:52:42,599
cultivate more GC more Prime contractors

939
00:52:42,599 --> 00:52:44,940
that's that's what I want to do so that

940
00:52:44,940 --> 00:52:47,940
they can compete in that environment and

941
00:52:47,940 --> 00:52:50,400
by aligning themselves with the partners

942
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:51,960
and the efforts that we have like with

943
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:53,700
Empire State development with access to

944
00:52:53,700 --> 00:52:55,740
Capital you know bringing the banks on

945
00:52:55,740 --> 00:52:58,260
board to assist you know with training

946
00:52:58,260 --> 00:53:00,480
and access to Capital finding support

947
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:03,000
and insurance people you know we'll do

948
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:04,079
that you know and it's going to take

949
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:07,380
time to do that so but that's how I see

950
00:53:07,380 --> 00:53:10,140
us you know being able to you know make

951
00:53:10,140 --> 00:53:10,740
it happen

952
00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:12,000
[Music]

953
00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:14,579
you know you know the Jerusalem

954
00:53:14,579 --> 00:53:17,280
engagement is is what it is so it

955
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:18,420
doesn't matter man we can certainly

956
00:53:18,420 --> 00:53:20,339
compete in any environment we can do

957
00:53:20,339 --> 00:53:22,160
that as long as we understand

958
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,140
it doesn't make a difference we compete

959
00:53:25,140 --> 00:53:27,660
and I think that's where we are right

960
00:53:27,660 --> 00:53:30,780
now okay I was earlier today I was in a

961
00:53:30,780 --> 00:53:32,160
meeting with another Community partner

962
00:53:32,160 --> 00:53:35,160
and they were talking about uh uh a

963
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:37,920
younger person that you worked with and

964
00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,960
now they actually and you work in

965
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:41,099
collaboration with them and they're now

966
00:53:41,099 --> 00:53:43,619
a homeowner in the city of Schenectady

967
00:53:43,619 --> 00:53:45,000
um so that was just that just happened

968
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:47,099
we came up today so I want to tell you

969
00:53:47,099 --> 00:53:49,079
how much I appreciate that and then the

970
00:53:49,079 --> 00:53:51,000
work that you're doing and you know I

971
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,680
know the council is really uh

972
00:53:52,680 --> 00:53:54,780
considering how we can support the

973
00:53:54,780 --> 00:53:56,099
important work that you're doing to make

974
00:53:56,099 --> 00:53:57,480
sure that you know it's sustainable

975
00:53:57,480 --> 00:53:59,220
right yeah so thank you there's one of

976
00:53:59,220 --> 00:54:00,359
the things we talk about sustainability

977
00:54:00,359 --> 00:54:02,160
you know as you look at the package that

978
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,079
you have there we did some projections

979
00:54:04,079 --> 00:54:07,319
in terms of if we were to invest in our

980
00:54:07,319 --> 00:54:09,660
community invest in training and put the

981
00:54:09,660 --> 00:54:12,000
resources where they're necessary over

982
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:14,579
the next five years we can create 500

983
00:54:14,579 --> 00:54:15,660
jobs

984
00:54:15,660 --> 00:54:18,119
right here in the city we can do that

985
00:54:18,119 --> 00:54:20,640
and we can look at the projection in

986
00:54:20,640 --> 00:54:23,280
terms of the revenue speed coming in

987
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:25,920
there we can do 18 million dollars in

988
00:54:25,920 --> 00:54:28,800
Revenue coming into you know this city

989
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:30,359
and and

990
00:54:30,359 --> 00:54:32,819
some of it is is recognizing the fact

991
00:54:32,819 --> 00:54:35,700
that Industries are changing there's a

992
00:54:35,700 --> 00:54:37,680
trend toward Mortuary technology we got

993
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:40,200
to get more Focus I mean laser focus on

994
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:42,300
the stem and the skin technology because

995
00:54:42,300 --> 00:54:44,339
that's where it is you can train a

996
00:54:44,339 --> 00:54:46,440
carpenter right now but carpentry is not

997
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,720
like it was the other going to get as

998
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:51,480
good a rule now they use a computer

999
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:55,140
lasers and you know you know cash

1000
00:54:55,140 --> 00:54:56,640
software and all those type of things

1001
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:59,520
just for carpentry our kids coming out

1002
00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,680
of school right now are not ready for

1003
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:02,400
that

1004
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,440
and so so we're working with the school

1005
00:55:04,440 --> 00:55:07,020
district our first comment is with

1006
00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:09,140
staffers and Dr Phil

1007
00:55:09,140 --> 00:55:12,420
and and we're trying to keep it

1008
00:55:12,420 --> 00:55:14,700
centrically focused on that because once

1009
00:55:14,700 --> 00:55:18,059
you get into the the broader uh main

1010
00:55:18,059 --> 00:55:19,260
campus kind of thing you know just

1011
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:22,380
deluded you know it's just it just it

1012
00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:24,599
just starts but I think if we stay on

1013
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:26,520
that track and work with that particular

1014
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,940
Focus we have a plan to do you know now

1015
00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,400
we can start getting results that's the

1016
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:34,380
patties folks you know that's coming out

1017
00:55:34,380 --> 00:55:35,940
whether they want to go to college or

1018
00:55:35,940 --> 00:55:37,859
get you know skill sets or you know

1019
00:55:37,859 --> 00:55:39,660
things like that you know for example

1020
00:55:39,660 --> 00:55:41,579
you know one of the things we're talking

1021
00:55:41,579 --> 00:55:43,800
about is like a drone technology so

1022
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,099
teaching how Urban kids about how to

1023
00:55:47,099 --> 00:55:50,760
build These Fine computers and um

1024
00:55:50,760 --> 00:55:53,700
getting their FAA license and any job

1025
00:55:53,700 --> 00:55:57,720
that's created that results 100

1026
00:55:57,720 --> 00:55:58,740
000 jobs are going to be created

1027
00:55:58,740 --> 00:56:01,980
yesterday and we're going to start using

1028
00:56:01,980 --> 00:56:03,480
them in public safety you know the

1029
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,000
police department

1030
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:08,819
so why can't a young man get that skill

1031
00:56:08,819 --> 00:56:10,319
set and get their life

1032
00:56:10,319 --> 00:56:13,200
so we we have an mlu currently

1033
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,000
in our hands right now with uh

1034
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,920
New Jersey Institute of Technology so

1035
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:21,720
they have this they have the first one

1036
00:56:21,720 --> 00:56:24,480
it was with Penn State University

1037
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,119
so the first statements down there in

1038
00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:29,579
this Urban setting so we're going to get

1039
00:56:29,579 --> 00:56:32,520
the second uh satellite here is

1040
00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:33,660
connecting so they're going to be

1041
00:56:33,660 --> 00:56:35,160
working with us to do the same thing

1042
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:38,160
through stylish things but specifically

1043
00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:41,099
today and then kind of that to what we

1044
00:56:41,099 --> 00:56:42,720
talk about in the Vsauce and you know

1045
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:44,099
with the virtual

1046
00:56:44,099 --> 00:56:46,140
cyber security and orchestration which

1047
00:56:46,140 --> 00:56:48,359
you'll see in the packet that's what a

1048
00:56:48,359 --> 00:56:49,920
job is going to be

1049
00:56:49,920 --> 00:56:51,780
they're they're moving in that direction

1050
00:56:51,780 --> 00:56:54,180
you know you look at it here in the city

1051
00:56:54,180 --> 00:56:56,040
you know you look at it anywhere you

1052
00:56:56,040 --> 00:56:57,960
talk about a smart city what do you

1053
00:56:57,960 --> 00:56:58,980
think is going to be reading that data

1054
00:56:58,980 --> 00:57:01,920
and putting these things in there enough

1055
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:04,079
our kids should be a part of that

1056
00:57:04,079 --> 00:57:05,819
and that's what we want to do with this

1057
00:57:05,819 --> 00:57:07,500
Center we want to work with the colleges

1058
00:57:07,500 --> 00:57:12,540
and make that happen so again we're just saying we're here to

1059
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:16,440
make a difference we're serious and um I

1060
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,660
think we can make an impact here and

1061
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:21,240
this city can really be a leader in this

1062
00:57:21,240 --> 00:57:24,650
efforts

1063
00:57:24,660 --> 00:57:27,180
first of all Ron thank you for all the

1064
00:57:27,180 --> 00:57:28,619
work that you're doing I know that you

1065
00:57:28,619 --> 00:57:29,819
know I've seen a lot of it up close and

1066
00:57:29,819 --> 00:57:31,859
personal so you really are making a

1067
00:57:31,859 --> 00:57:33,300
difference and having an impact on this

1068
00:57:33,300 --> 00:57:35,460
city since uh we were smart enough to

1069
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:36,660
hire you

1070
00:57:36,660 --> 00:57:38,040
so thank you for the work and the

1071
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,480
continued work going forward and I just

1072
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,400
wanted to actually kind of bring it back

1073
00:57:41,400 --> 00:57:43,619
to the fact that the gentleman that you

1074
00:57:43,619 --> 00:57:45,059
have here from halfway electric actually

1075
00:57:45,059 --> 00:57:46,619
was able to work on the project in

1076
00:57:46,619 --> 00:57:48,480
Orchard Park yeah yeah it wasn't the

1077
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:52,440
smoothness I understand but but at least

1078
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:54,300
um you know they have an opportunity so

1079
00:57:54,300 --> 00:57:55,980
it it shows that the work that you're

1080
00:57:55,980 --> 00:57:58,319
doing is really making that immediate

1081
00:57:58,319 --> 00:58:01,079
and um local impact

1082
00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:03,059
and so people someone lives locally is

1083
00:58:03,059 --> 00:58:04,859
working on a local project so what you

1084
00:58:04,859 --> 00:58:05,700
talked about in the beginning where

1085
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,040
people drive by or walk by and see

1086
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:09,900
someone who looks like them who is from

1087
00:58:09,900 --> 00:58:12,180
the community working on a project does

1088
00:58:12,180 --> 00:58:13,980
make a difference so

1089
00:58:13,980 --> 00:58:15,660
um I'm glad that you came tonight I'm

1090
00:58:15,660 --> 00:58:17,640
not saying that if you have more to say

1091
00:58:17,640 --> 00:58:19,440
but um because you know there's a lot of

1092
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,059
questions last night I think you've

1093
00:58:21,059 --> 00:58:23,339
answered them all and I really

1094
00:58:23,339 --> 00:58:24,599
appreciate all the work you're doing I

1095
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:27,950
can't say that enough

1096
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:30,540
for her so the building in terms of the

1097
00:58:30,540 --> 00:58:32,280
building being done I noticed Sylvia

1098
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:34,020
might move over from development to be

1099
00:58:34,020 --> 00:58:36,720
the executive director of the center

1100
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:38,460
that would be like what would be the

1101
00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:40,319
timeline in terms of I mean I didn't get

1102
00:58:40,319 --> 00:58:43,040
a chance to read all of this obviously

1103
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,599
we've done the uh

1104
00:58:45,599 --> 00:58:49,940
the environmental I mean the engineers

1105
00:58:49,940 --> 00:58:53,460
and now it's in it's great to go to

1106
00:58:53,460 --> 00:58:56,880
design so it's ready to go to design for

1107
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:59,160
the actual documents to be prepared and

1108
00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:01,020
put out of there so we're hoping

1109
00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:02,880
the timeline I'm looking at it we can

1110
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:04,980
get that done between now and have it

1111
00:59:04,980 --> 00:59:07,260
have to be at the start of March it

1112
00:59:07,260 --> 00:59:08,880
takes six months for the project to be

1113
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:09,839
done

1114
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:12,119
you know by the end of the summer

1115
00:59:12,119 --> 00:59:13,920
that should be open

1116
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:15,180
excuse me around you're talking about

1117
00:59:15,180 --> 00:59:16,680
the building an old history called me

1118
00:59:16,680 --> 00:59:20,520
right right that let everybody know so

1119
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,140
what does that mean for you in the city

1120
00:59:22,140 --> 00:59:25,200
Your Role here does that mean that you

1121
00:59:25,200 --> 00:59:27,240
would you know would you move over to

1122
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:29,099
this no no we will still be doing this

1123
00:59:29,099 --> 00:59:31,690
you know

1124
00:59:31,700 --> 00:59:34,740
thank you

1125
00:59:34,740 --> 00:59:36,900
so I do have a follow-up question yeah

1126
00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:38,579
so like for example Sylvia leaving

1127
00:59:38,579 --> 00:59:40,260
development and coming over to the

1128
00:59:40,260 --> 00:59:42,599
center but she would not be the program

1129
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:45,559
coordinator in this so your department

1130
00:59:45,559 --> 00:59:48,559
as a department would be maybe

1131
00:59:48,559 --> 00:59:50,940
affirmative action or would you would it

1132
00:59:50,940 --> 00:59:52,859
be Workforce Development

1133
00:59:52,859 --> 00:59:54,900
um and then in other words

1134
00:59:54,900 --> 00:59:57,119
Sylvia's position in this

1135
00:59:57,119 --> 01:00:01,440
would be in addition to this program

1136
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,660
okay and then

1137
01:00:03,660 --> 01:00:05,460
um so we'd have to replace Sylvia

1138
01:00:05,460 --> 01:00:08,640
probably in development as well

1139
01:00:08,640 --> 01:00:09,859
right

1140
01:00:09,859 --> 01:00:12,780
uh go ahead please I just I just want to

1141
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:14,640
say something yeah speaking of the

1142
01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:16,200
subject she just told me she's planning

1143
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:19,680
on retiring and moving back to her

1144
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:22,200
home state so we gotta look at somebody

1145
01:00:22,200 --> 01:00:25,549
else

1146
01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:33,309
there it goes through the window yeah

1147
01:00:33,319 --> 01:00:41,650
geez hold on I

1148
01:00:41,660 --> 01:00:44,760
are you referring to contract compliance

1149
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,700
also payment from financials yeah yes so

1150
01:00:47,700 --> 01:00:49,520
it's a combination

1151
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:57,349
so every every day I have um and

1152
01:00:57,359 --> 01:00:59,160
um you know work with the contract so

1153
01:00:59,160 --> 01:01:02,660
and then I sign up all the Investments

1154
01:01:02,660 --> 01:01:06,000
and they are submitting all the MLB yes

1155
01:01:06,000 --> 01:01:08,400
document as required yes

1156
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:10,319
and if they're not then you will reach

1157
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:13,079
all back to them so yeah yes I mean are

1158
01:01:13,079 --> 01:01:15,299
you finding it that um subcontractors

1159
01:01:15,299 --> 01:01:17,040
have been difficult for some of these

1160
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,799
documents no I hope we could do to know

1161
01:01:19,799 --> 01:01:22,380
because they don't they're not this

1162
01:01:22,380 --> 01:01:23,579
isn't done because they don't get paid

1163
01:01:23,579 --> 01:01:25,920
unless you know they're submitted so if

1164
01:01:25,920 --> 01:01:28,020
they don't send the documents in and

1165
01:01:28,020 --> 01:01:32,120
everything attached

1166
01:01:32,130 --> 01:01:53,809
[Music]

1167
01:01:53,819 --> 01:01:56,280
you know fill us down remember what an

1168
01:01:56,280 --> 01:01:58,020
apartment you know the same thing okay

1169
01:01:58,020 --> 01:02:00,299
so they're very good at making sure that

1170
01:02:00,299 --> 01:02:02,700
I get what I need and then they'll let

1171
01:02:02,700 --> 01:02:03,839
me know if they don't help with anything

1172
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:05,819
I reach out to the contractor and tell

1173
01:02:05,819 --> 01:02:06,839
them that you know we're not going to

1174
01:02:06,839 --> 01:02:10,390
move forward

1175
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:12,299
you know and the reason why is that

1176
01:02:12,299 --> 01:02:13,380
question I want you to highlight it

1177
01:02:13,380 --> 01:02:14,640
because not only you're doing a

1178
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,740
Workforce you know you get in and we're

1179
01:02:16,740 --> 01:02:18,660
probably also doing the back end of the

1180
01:02:18,660 --> 01:02:20,099
work to make sure that the contractors

1181
01:02:20,099 --> 01:02:22,020
are combines correct but the required

1182
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:24,420
documentation to meet the goals that we

1183
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:26,160
approve through city council here early

1184
01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:29,099
this year right but yeah I'm passionate

1185
01:02:29,099 --> 01:02:30,900
about this this department because I

1186
01:02:30,900 --> 01:02:33,359
know that many many years ago and then

1187
01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:36,480
finally with that so I got to spear

1188
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:37,859
ahead and to my colleagues on the

1189
01:02:37,859 --> 01:02:40,200
council to revise the city Charter to

1190
01:02:40,200 --> 01:02:42,780
bring this one more up-to-date you know

1191
01:02:42,780 --> 01:02:45,180
documentation in terms of MLB compliance

1192
01:02:45,180 --> 01:02:47,220
and from then on you will have been you

1193
01:02:47,220 --> 01:02:49,200
know reaching out to us making updates

1194
01:02:49,200 --> 01:02:51,299
and things like that you know I want to

1195
01:02:51,299 --> 01:02:52,680
encourage you to continue to do what

1196
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:58,050
you're doing you're doing a good job

1197
01:02:58,060 --> 01:03:09,069
[Music]

1198
01:03:09,079 --> 01:03:12,380
any other question for Ron

1199
01:03:12,380 --> 01:03:15,059
thank you Ron appreciate you taking the

1200
01:03:15,059 --> 01:03:17,099
time off to come here and to address all

1201
01:03:17,099 --> 01:03:18,660
the questions and concern that we had

1202
01:03:18,660 --> 01:03:27,410
for me yesterday

1203
01:03:27,420 --> 01:03:29,940
from our friends at KTP and I was

1204
01:03:29,940 --> 01:03:33,119
introduced from Mr Gardner and uh you

1205
01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:34,799
know ain't no anything to start a

1206
01:03:34,799 --> 01:03:36,119
business if it wasn't for him I might

1207
01:03:36,119 --> 01:03:38,640
still have um yeah

1208
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:40,799
thanks definitely not on public funded

1209
01:03:40,799 --> 01:03:42,780
projects because of the What I Call

1210
01:03:42,780 --> 01:03:44,660
Construction red tape

1211
01:03:44,660 --> 01:03:48,059
it's like one I was a meeting for her

1212
01:03:48,059 --> 01:03:50,400
was everything going on on my street you

1213
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:52,079
know one gentleman stood up and said you

1214
01:03:52,079 --> 01:03:54,000
know this is just be a good faith effort

1215
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,319
we don't need your tea and your cupcakes

1216
01:03:57,319 --> 01:03:59,160
and I

1217
01:03:59,160 --> 01:04:01,319
really saw the

1218
01:04:01,319 --> 01:04:04,140
what he's here for because it's

1219
01:04:04,140 --> 01:04:05,700
impossible for someone like me to get

1220
01:04:05,700 --> 01:04:07,980
there so that I can handle hey apps

1221
01:04:07,980 --> 01:04:10,319
that's that have bonding you know the

1222
01:04:10,319 --> 01:04:13,079
bond of life you know and to really get

1223
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:15,660
where I am right now able to be a prime

1224
01:04:15,660 --> 01:04:18,119
of some jobs and consider buying they

1225
01:04:18,119 --> 01:04:20,819
can confident I know what indefinitely

1226
01:04:20,819 --> 01:04:22,500
means and things like that you know I

1227
01:04:22,500 --> 01:04:23,819
mean I understand the insurance I

1228
01:04:23,819 --> 01:04:26,160
understand everything though and uh you

1229
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:27,240
know we're going to keep moving forward

1230
01:04:27,240 --> 01:04:28,920
but I just got a text that said happy

1231
01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,020
Johnson Controls is way under their

1232
01:04:31,020 --> 01:04:32,760
enemy Eagles and like the higher

1233
01:04:32,760 --> 01:04:34,260
resolution projects I mean licensed

1234
01:04:34,260 --> 01:04:38,530
electrician and the fireworks sir

1235
01:04:38,540 --> 01:04:41,280
one of the first seeds he planted was

1236
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,319
introduced me to these gentlemen who

1237
01:04:43,319 --> 01:04:45,960
come in and do building audits to you

1238
01:04:45,960 --> 01:04:48,000
know change over to LED and they get the

1239
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:50,339
National Grid and everything and uh so

1240
01:04:50,339 --> 01:04:52,380
that contact still obviously keeps in

1241
01:04:52,380 --> 01:04:54,240
contact and we're going to try to help

1242
01:04:54,240 --> 01:04:56,059
Johnson Control it down

1243
01:04:56,059 --> 01:04:58,619
so you know that's right what you guys

1244
01:04:58,619 --> 01:04:59,839
are talking about

1245
01:04:59,839 --> 01:05:02,040
payouts I know we talked about this many

1246
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,500
years ago are you still continue to

1247
01:05:04,500 --> 01:05:06,000
training with the AIA payment

1248
01:05:06,000 --> 01:05:07,940
applications

1249
01:05:07,940 --> 01:05:10,559
contractors yeah and you're finding it

1250
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:12,240
easy to use now rather than before they

1251
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:13,319
were so complicated they didn't

1252
01:05:13,319 --> 01:05:14,760
understand it they understand what they

1253
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,500
did I mean it's just like my kids you

1254
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:19,319
know a good frustrated you know you work

1255
01:05:19,319 --> 01:05:21,240
through and what we try to do is talk to

1256
01:05:21,240 --> 01:05:22,200
them about

1257
01:05:22,200 --> 01:05:25,079
like we try to think still but you need

1258
01:05:25,079 --> 01:05:26,460
a team

1259
01:05:26,460 --> 01:05:28,260
so that's that's really what it's all

1260
01:05:28,260 --> 01:05:29,460
about it says

1261
01:05:29,460 --> 01:05:30,720
you know trying to put these pieces

1262
01:05:30,720 --> 01:05:32,700
together so that's why the center is

1263
01:05:32,700 --> 01:05:35,520
important so that we can create that

1264
01:05:35,520 --> 01:05:37,740
team but a smaller firm that don't have

1265
01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:40,200
the ability to have that back offer so

1266
01:05:40,200 --> 01:05:41,520
part of this thing is going to be to

1267
01:05:41,520 --> 01:05:42,680
have somebody in there to help

1268
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:44,520
facilitate you know that kind of

1269
01:05:44,520 --> 01:05:47,460
information like you know getting the

1270
01:05:47,460 --> 01:05:50,099
you know applications and tags you know

1271
01:05:50,099 --> 01:05:51,720
just just putting the big doctor because

1272
01:05:51,720 --> 01:05:53,700
I mean Chris can tell you I mean put a

1273
01:05:53,700 --> 01:05:56,339
big guy together his a week-long process

1274
01:05:56,339 --> 01:06:00,349
it's a nightmare do that

1275
01:06:00,359 --> 01:06:02,940
thank you I always appreciate it go

1276
01:06:02,940 --> 01:06:05,220
ahead one thing I know no no go ahead

1277
01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:07,440
please I just mounting over to the table

1278
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,180
so I'm just confused over one thing that

1279
01:06:09,180 --> 01:06:13,020
the program is the building who owns the

1280
01:06:13,020 --> 01:06:19,390
building

1281
01:06:19,400 --> 01:06:22,260
I have a facilities but it becomes if it

1282
01:06:22,260 --> 01:06:25,260
becomes a city building then it becomes

1283
01:06:25,260 --> 01:06:27,059
a city building and then there's just

1284
01:06:27,059 --> 01:06:29,099
you know when I proposed my budget and

1285
01:06:29,099 --> 01:06:31,380
we did not have a 3 000 square foot

1286
01:06:31,380 --> 01:06:34,260
remote and Empowerment Center in the

1287
01:06:34,260 --> 01:06:36,780
budget I know but so I didn't know it

1288
01:06:36,780 --> 01:06:38,819
wasn't clearly in the application but

1289
01:06:38,819 --> 01:06:41,700
now we're talking about Staffing and

1290
01:06:41,700 --> 01:06:44,280
offices and a building we used to have a

1291
01:06:44,280 --> 01:06:45,839
remote building across the street for

1292
01:06:45,839 --> 01:06:49,020
the PD yeah traffic we got rid of that

1293
01:06:49,020 --> 01:06:51,180
building and now this is a building

1294
01:06:51,180 --> 01:06:52,859
across the street River I just want to

1295
01:06:52,859 --> 01:06:54,539
make sure that while we're doing budgets

1296
01:06:54,539 --> 01:06:57,000
we understand like this is a new city

1297
01:06:57,000 --> 01:06:59,160
building you know that it was kind of

1298
01:06:59,160 --> 01:07:01,619
fall under Joe panjon and facility staff

1299
01:07:01,619 --> 01:07:04,440
to help I would assume right so I just

1300
01:07:04,440 --> 01:07:06,119
it wasn't clear if anything I had talked

1301
01:07:06,119 --> 01:07:08,160
about at one point about if this

1302
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,760
building is a separate entity or it is a

1303
01:07:11,760 --> 01:07:24,370
city-owned facility

1304
01:07:24,380 --> 01:07:27,059
you know so some of those things that

1305
01:07:27,059 --> 01:07:29,099
we're in the budget you know later on in

1306
01:07:29,099 --> 01:07:31,079
the year or anything might might not if

1307
01:07:31,079 --> 01:07:32,819
it's done this year

1308
01:07:32,819 --> 01:07:34,260
has changed if I have to do some

1309
01:07:34,260 --> 01:07:36,839
modifications for that I I was on an

1310
01:07:36,839 --> 01:07:38,880
impression through the excuse me I was

1311
01:07:38,880 --> 01:07:40,319
under the impression through the art of

1312
01:07:40,319 --> 01:07:41,880
funds that their game was going to end

1313
01:07:41,880 --> 01:07:43,619
up on the building

1314
01:07:43,619 --> 01:07:45,120
um

1315
01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:47,660
[Music]

1316
01:07:47,660 --> 01:07:58,970
is related to this project

1317
01:07:58,980 --> 01:08:01,680
oh of course this was I see January 9th

1318
01:08:01,680 --> 01:08:07,789
so things have changed since January 9th

1319
01:08:07,799 --> 01:08:17,570
all right thank you sir I appreciate it

1320
01:08:17,580 --> 01:08:19,859
Safari can you just give us a snapshot

1321
01:08:19,859 --> 01:08:25,669
on the engineering department

1322
01:08:25,679 --> 01:08:29,580
give us a brief you know or extended

1323
01:08:29,580 --> 01:08:33,130
on his Department

1324
01:08:33,140 --> 01:08:38,050
sections

1325
01:08:38,060 --> 01:08:40,259
you know

1326
01:08:40,259 --> 01:08:43,150
uh

1327
01:08:43,160 --> 01:08:45,299
excuse me uh

1328
01:08:45,299 --> 01:08:46,980
Chris what does the Public Works

1329
01:08:46,980 --> 01:08:49,679
Administration which is increased by 46

1330
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:53,279
000 557 uh total engineering

1331
01:08:53,279 --> 01:08:55,620
construction design is up forty five

1332
01:08:55,620 --> 01:08:58,199
thousand three seventy two you already

1333
01:08:58,199 --> 01:09:00,000
did facilities but he also knows

1334
01:09:00,000 --> 01:09:02,819
facilities yeah and we're just we're

1335
01:09:02,819 --> 01:09:04,400
just doing Public Works

1336
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:07,199
engineering Construction and design I'm

1337
01:09:07,199 --> 01:09:09,900
sorry could you repeat the page page oh

1338
01:09:09,900 --> 01:09:18,690
sorry

1339
01:09:18,700 --> 01:09:41,950
[Music]

1340
01:09:41,960 --> 01:09:46,739
so I'll try to be detailed but brief uh

1341
01:09:46,739 --> 01:09:48,960
we'll go through my budget is actually

1342
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:51,239
quite small when it comes to engineering

1343
01:09:51,239 --> 01:09:53,460
and but it works but there are positions

1344
01:09:53,460 --> 01:09:54,900
there that we should talk about I'll go

1345
01:09:54,900 --> 01:09:56,760
through the package that I handed out I

1346
01:09:56,760 --> 01:09:59,100
kind of have it in a sequential order so

1347
01:09:59,100 --> 01:10:00,540
what you see here in front of me and by

1348
01:10:00,540 --> 01:10:02,100
the way just wanted to point out all of

1349
01:10:02,100 --> 01:10:04,560
this is not creating just specifically

1350
01:10:04,560 --> 01:10:07,160
for this meeting these were all created

1351
01:10:07,160 --> 01:10:10,679
between five and eight years ago because

1352
01:10:10,679 --> 01:10:12,540
they helped me keep my head on straight

1353
01:10:12,540 --> 01:10:15,480
because without it it's a little hard so

1354
01:10:15,480 --> 01:10:17,520
uh and they're just

1355
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:21,590
hold on one second

1356
01:10:21,600 --> 01:10:24,300
so there you go so but I was showing you

1357
01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:25,679
right here we have the department of

1358
01:10:25,679 --> 01:10:27,360
engineering facilities core operations

1359
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:29,760
so while I write this down and I post it

1360
01:10:29,760 --> 01:10:32,400
in the department is that if the time

1361
01:10:32,400 --> 01:10:34,080
comes which may be soon that the

1362
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:35,940
department is only me

1363
01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:38,699
this is what I have to do to keep the

1364
01:10:38,699 --> 01:10:40,080
lights on in the department of work

1365
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:43,679
these are all of the daily tasks for the

1366
01:10:43,679 --> 01:10:45,360
department of engineering

1367
01:10:45,360 --> 01:10:46,620
um you know I like to point out to

1368
01:10:46,620 --> 01:10:49,500
people that the capital projects while

1369
01:10:49,500 --> 01:10:52,080
they are nice to have new signals and

1370
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,780
paved roads and all those things they're

1371
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:57,840
kind of the extra you know we have to do

1372
01:10:57,840 --> 01:11:00,840
all of the things on this list to stay

1373
01:11:00,840 --> 01:11:03,120
in compliant with municipality so on the

1374
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:04,739
list are

1375
01:11:04,739 --> 01:11:06,600
um you know we have easements and maps

1376
01:11:06,600 --> 01:11:08,100
from the archive list if you come to the

1377
01:11:08,100 --> 01:11:10,500
office right we have to be able to find

1378
01:11:10,500 --> 01:11:12,360
files and answer questions about the

1379
01:11:12,360 --> 01:11:14,040
history of the city we have programs

1380
01:11:14,040 --> 01:11:16,260
citizen request tracker claims against

1381
01:11:16,260 --> 01:11:18,179
the city which are you know pretty much

1382
01:11:18,179 --> 01:11:20,460
weekly uh Community engagement city

1383
01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:22,500
council decorative lighting I do the the

1384
01:11:22,500 --> 01:11:24,120
lights upstairs that actually may be

1385
01:11:24,120 --> 01:11:25,920
going away soon which is great we're

1386
01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:27,780
gonna We form the lighting Consortium

1387
01:11:27,780 --> 01:11:30,600
between Proctors Metroplex and the city

1388
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,239
and that is active John's uh involved

1389
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:34,320
with that

1390
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:36,300
um AV Vehicle Management I handled the

1391
01:11:36,300 --> 01:11:37,920
charge Point stations that are around

1392
01:11:37,920 --> 01:11:40,620
City Hall facilities as we talked about

1393
01:11:40,620 --> 01:11:42,900
which is the daily operations budgeting

1394
01:11:42,900 --> 01:11:46,140
all that foils plot lines ms4 ms4 is

1395
01:11:46,140 --> 01:11:48,480
mandated we have to do inspections uh

1396
01:11:48,480 --> 01:11:50,100
we'll get into that in a little bit but

1397
01:11:50,100 --> 01:11:51,659
like for that one we used to have an

1398
01:11:51,659 --> 01:11:54,060
employee who did that he left now I have

1399
01:11:54,060 --> 01:11:56,580
a firm that does that for us so we're

1400
01:11:56,580 --> 01:11:58,920
paying a firm to do it because we don't

1401
01:11:58,920 --> 01:12:00,179
have the employee to do it because it's

1402
01:12:00,179 --> 01:12:02,880
mandated and it is quite involved to do

1403
01:12:02,880 --> 01:12:06,000
that permits because of our staffing

1404
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:09,600
issues a year ago we gave all of our a

1405
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,120
lot of our permission codes because they

1406
01:12:12,120 --> 01:12:13,620
were the ones doing most of the permits

1407
01:12:13,620 --> 01:12:14,699
anyways we were trying to make a

1408
01:12:14,699 --> 01:12:17,460
One-Stop shop for permit so we gave a

1409
01:12:17,460 --> 01:12:19,560
lot of permits to codes because they had

1410
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,960
more staff plan interview we do all the

1411
01:12:21,960 --> 01:12:23,520
planning uh commission review everybody

1412
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:25,320
does that but still we're looked at all

1413
01:12:25,320 --> 01:12:27,120
those harder because it's for model

1414
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:29,159
engineering goes into that uh codes

1415
01:12:29,159 --> 01:12:31,020
Department property address the storm

1416
01:12:31,020 --> 01:12:33,659
water street closures uh pavement and

1417
01:12:33,659 --> 01:12:36,540
then also and this one is small on the

1418
01:12:36,540 --> 01:12:39,199
bottom but it is actually a lot of work

1419
01:12:39,199 --> 01:12:42,900
I am technically the landlord for the

1420
01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:44,280
court system here

1421
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:47,100
and so as you know we have two courts in

1422
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,440
this building and two one port soon to

1423
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:52,199
be two ports at the PD and those courts

1424
01:12:52,199 --> 01:12:53,100
have

1425
01:12:53,100 --> 01:12:55,940
20 some full-time employees four judges

1426
01:12:55,940 --> 01:12:58,320
officers partnering all these

1427
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,780
requirements and all of that

1428
01:13:00,780 --> 01:13:03,840
coordination goes through me all the

1429
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:05,820
contract approvals all the maintenance

1430
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:07,320
all the requests they are not allowed to

1431
01:13:07,320 --> 01:13:09,420
do any work in our buildings everything

1432
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:11,580
has to come through me so like right now

1433
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:13,920
they're asking for data connections they

1434
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:15,300
want to move a computer

1435
01:13:15,300 --> 01:13:17,040
I met with them yesterday we have to

1436
01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:18,600
meet there move an outlet move this

1437
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:19,980
coordinate with John and our

1438
01:13:19,980 --> 01:13:21,600
electricians they want to build a

1439
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,520
counter everything has to go through me

1440
01:13:23,520 --> 01:13:26,100
all that so that is like a huge landlord

1441
01:13:26,100 --> 01:13:29,580
responsibility to make sure that those

1442
01:13:29,580 --> 01:13:31,980
courts are acceptable and as you know

1443
01:13:31,980 --> 01:13:33,659
they have a lot of complaints against us

1444
01:13:33,659 --> 01:13:36,120
for their facilities and lack of a

1445
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,100
fourth Court which we're working on so

1446
01:13:38,100 --> 01:13:40,500
that is a while it is a small bullet

1447
01:13:40,500 --> 01:13:42,960
here like the others it is a very large

1448
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:44,360
responsibility

1449
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:48,179
so to do these tasks that's the next

1450
01:13:48,179 --> 01:13:50,880
page this is a organizational chart that

1451
01:13:50,880 --> 01:13:53,640
we have currently informed

1452
01:13:53,640 --> 01:13:57,659
um black is uh engineering green has to

1453
01:13:57,659 --> 01:13:59,400
do with the golf course and then yellow

1454
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:02,880
is open positions uh and then I put on

1455
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:06,600
here in red all of the retirees

1456
01:14:06,600 --> 01:14:09,239
um you know I'm losing joke in several

1457
01:14:09,239 --> 01:14:11,760
months I'm losing my assistant at the

1458
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:14,820
end of the year of next year my other

1459
01:14:14,820 --> 01:14:16,980
assistant is part-time he works anywhere

1460
01:14:16,980 --> 01:14:20,340
between four and 16 hours a week very

1461
01:14:20,340 --> 01:14:22,860
hard to it's nice to have him but it is

1462
01:14:22,860 --> 01:14:25,860
very hard to task someone who works

1463
01:14:25,860 --> 01:14:28,560
anywhere from four to 16 hours with an

1464
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,840
assignment it actually makes a lot of

1465
01:14:30,840 --> 01:14:32,460
work to try to keep someone like that

1466
01:14:32,460 --> 01:14:34,739
and then you know not into my place or

1467
01:14:34,739 --> 01:14:36,179
not but we've talked about it I have on

1468
01:14:36,179 --> 01:14:39,600
here Paul Anthony and even John are all

1469
01:14:39,600 --> 01:14:42,000
looking to retire in the next one two

1470
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:45,600
years and I rely on Paul Anthony and

1471
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:48,900
John a lot you know and we work together

1472
01:14:48,900 --> 01:14:50,940
like like this and we have a really good

1473
01:14:50,940 --> 01:14:55,199
team but you know I'm 41. I have

1474
01:14:55,199 --> 01:14:58,380
possibly 20 years you know 25 if I go

1475
01:14:58,380 --> 01:15:01,199
you know and and the team around me is

1476
01:15:01,199 --> 01:15:10,620
so I just wanted to point this out the

1477
01:15:10,620 --> 01:15:13,620
other thing I guess I would point out is

1478
01:15:13,620 --> 01:15:15,900
I am working with Anthony on this as

1479
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,420
flexible as I can so while the budget

1480
01:15:18,420 --> 01:15:20,820
has these in here we can talk about that

1481
01:15:20,820 --> 01:15:24,360
with it is just a shot like for instance

1482
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,600
last year's budget uh improved budget

1483
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:30,420
did not have an ips3 but what we found

1484
01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:34,679
is ips3s are available and we have so

1485
01:15:34,679 --> 01:15:38,040
much paperwork that having another ips3

1486
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:41,159
would probably just be a huge help just

1487
01:15:41,159 --> 01:15:43,080
that we are just swamped with paperwork

1488
01:15:43,080 --> 01:15:43,860
upstairs

1489
01:15:43,860 --> 01:15:47,219
and so last year Colleen was approved to

1490
01:15:47,219 --> 01:15:49,560
be a ips4 so now we're looking at

1491
01:15:49,560 --> 01:15:52,739
bringing an ips3 under accounting to

1492
01:15:52,739 --> 01:15:54,719
help her because once again we're not

1493
01:15:54,719 --> 01:15:56,219
only doing

1494
01:15:56,219 --> 01:15:58,860
dozens of contracts we're also doing

1495
01:15:58,860 --> 01:16:01,560
day-to-day bills for all paper products

1496
01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:03,960
to soap fuel deliveries everything that

1497
01:16:03,960 --> 01:16:06,420
goes through the golf course so you know

1498
01:16:06,420 --> 01:16:09,000
in a week we can have a stack of bills

1499
01:16:09,000 --> 01:16:09,980
this tall

1500
01:16:09,980 --> 01:16:12,780
and we have to get them out but we also

1501
01:16:12,780 --> 01:16:15,239
have to do the contracts we also have to

1502
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:17,340
do so we're kind of and and that would

1503
01:16:17,340 --> 01:16:18,840
help us the more organized we are to

1504
01:16:18,840 --> 01:16:19,980
help Anthony

1505
01:16:19,980 --> 01:16:22,500
because Anthony's Department relies on

1506
01:16:22,500 --> 01:16:24,540
us because we do all of our own

1507
01:16:24,540 --> 01:16:26,940
paperwork when it comes to finances you

1508
01:16:26,940 --> 01:16:28,580
know our department is essentially

1509
01:16:28,580 --> 01:16:31,199
engineering purchasing Finance you know

1510
01:16:31,199 --> 01:16:34,080
we will we do it mostly everything and

1511
01:16:34,080 --> 01:16:36,000
then work with them on just the details

1512
01:16:36,000 --> 01:16:38,820
of it and so that ips3 wasn't in my

1513
01:16:38,820 --> 01:16:40,440
budget when Anthony sat down and said

1514
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:42,360
you need help and we've looked at it the

1515
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:43,440
issue that the reason that we haven't

1516
01:16:43,440 --> 01:16:45,179
hired one we actually interviewed and

1517
01:16:45,179 --> 01:16:47,940
then we had to stop was because there is

1518
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:50,460
a list you need the list and the list

1519
01:16:50,460 --> 01:16:52,679
won't the list could be out tomorrow or

1520
01:16:52,679 --> 01:16:54,960
it could be out in three months so we

1521
01:16:54,960 --> 01:16:56,520
didn't feel it was appropriate to hire

1522
01:16:56,520 --> 01:17:00,380
anyone because the list is coming

1523
01:17:00,380 --> 01:17:02,100
so the

1524
01:17:02,100 --> 01:17:04,020
physicians in yellow

1525
01:17:04,020 --> 01:17:05,940
um

1526
01:17:05,940 --> 01:17:08,659
positions correct

1527
01:17:08,659 --> 01:17:11,340
ips3 is proposed but what I guess what I

1528
01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:12,960
was getting at too was

1529
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:15,239
um the junior civil all right then this

1530
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:16,560
is you know we'll get into the we'll

1531
01:17:16,560 --> 01:17:17,820
talk about a little bit of the weeds of

1532
01:17:17,820 --> 01:17:19,920
this year all right like a junior civil

1533
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,920
engineer that 52 725 you see there

1534
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:25,440
that's like pop a step for that grade

1535
01:17:25,440 --> 01:17:27,480
all right so there's a difference you

1536
01:17:27,480 --> 01:17:30,420
have unions and you have nine so yep

1537
01:17:30,420 --> 01:17:32,580
that position right there with those

1538
01:17:32,580 --> 01:17:34,500
requirements

1539
01:17:34,500 --> 01:17:39,659
side of the city is 65 000 started my

1540
01:17:39,659 --> 01:17:41,100
wife who worked for a private company

1541
01:17:41,100 --> 01:17:44,460
offered someone out of Clarkson no

1542
01:17:44,460 --> 01:17:48,719
experience 66.5 with a 2500 signing

1543
01:17:48,719 --> 01:17:52,980
bonus justice so that is what we're

1544
01:17:52,980 --> 01:17:54,360
paying

1545
01:17:54,360 --> 01:17:56,940
and that's TOP Step and I've actually

1546
01:17:56,940 --> 01:17:58,679
gotten to talk to by the union about

1547
01:17:58,679 --> 01:18:01,560
they may not approve that because they

1548
01:18:01,560 --> 01:18:04,020
want people starting in step one and

1549
01:18:04,020 --> 01:18:05,940
working their way up Step One is

1550
01:18:05,940 --> 01:18:07,920
important so I might as well not even

1551
01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:10,800
post it so in turn what I did is I did

1552
01:18:10,800 --> 01:18:13,500
not post a junior civil engineer I

1553
01:18:13,500 --> 01:18:15,659
posted a position called a senior

1554
01:18:15,659 --> 01:18:20,580
technician is similar pay but the

1555
01:18:20,580 --> 01:18:23,159
qualifications are less trying to get

1556
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:24,600
just someone

1557
01:18:24,600 --> 01:18:27,000
and so that's what I mean kind of by

1558
01:18:27,000 --> 01:18:30,000
trying to be flexible the we have the

1559
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,520
money in the budget we just don't have

1560
01:18:32,520 --> 01:18:34,500
people to spend the money on and we have

1561
01:18:34,500 --> 01:18:36,300
the money in the budget last year I

1562
01:18:36,300 --> 01:18:37,620
guess is what we always have the money

1563
01:18:37,620 --> 01:18:39,120
in the budget okay I just wanted to make

1564
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:40,679
sure that they weren't so what we end up

1565
01:18:40,679 --> 01:18:42,900
doing is like for instance our ms4

1566
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:45,000
consultant is actually being paid for

1567
01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:48,300
out of like a salary citizen because

1568
01:18:48,300 --> 01:18:50,580
if we had a person the person would do

1569
01:18:50,580 --> 01:18:52,320
the work so since we don't have the

1570
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:54,540
person and I didn't have a budget line

1571
01:18:54,540 --> 01:18:58,440
for consultant ms4 we set aside money to

1572
01:18:58,440 --> 01:19:00,120
pay for someone to do what the person is

1573
01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:01,679
doing and you'll see that as we go

1574
01:19:01,679 --> 01:19:03,659
through uh if you want to go to like the

1575
01:19:03,659 --> 01:19:05,060
next page

1576
01:19:05,060 --> 01:19:07,860
you just want to be 100 clear so the

1577
01:19:07,860 --> 01:19:09,900
junior civil engineer which we which

1578
01:19:09,900 --> 01:19:11,280
have been here for 15

1579
01:19:11,280 --> 01:19:12,780
5

1580
01:19:12,780 --> 01:19:16,080
yes and also this one assistant to the

1581
01:19:16,080 --> 01:19:17,760
engineer everything that says open was

1582
01:19:17,760 --> 01:19:21,300
in the approved 2022 budget and is open

1583
01:19:21,300 --> 01:19:24,120
except the IPS three the ips3 is

1584
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,760
proposed and it's in this one okay yes

1585
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:29,460
thank you yes that's how I try to

1586
01:19:29,460 --> 01:19:30,900
differentiate things

1587
01:19:30,900 --> 01:19:33,840
um the next page of my little handout

1588
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:39,239
here is how I am getting work done so

1589
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:41,640
without staff and would be workable that

1590
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:45,060
I have I had gone out for the term

1591
01:19:45,060 --> 01:19:46,080
agreement

1592
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:47,820
last year

1593
01:19:47,820 --> 01:19:49,980
and the term agreement was for

1594
01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:53,219
everything because we do everything when

1595
01:19:53,219 --> 01:19:55,560
I started here in 2012 I was city

1596
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,080
engineer in charge of roads and bridges

1597
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:00,120
now I'm city engineer in charge of roads

1598
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,560
and bridges and buildings and golf

1599
01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,380
course and parks and you know it's grown

1600
01:20:04,380 --> 01:20:09,480
so my term agreement reflects that we

1601
01:20:09,480 --> 01:20:11,520
used to have one company now I have one

1602
01:20:11,520 --> 01:20:13,500
two three four five six seven eight nine

1603
01:20:13,500 --> 01:20:14,640
ten

1604
01:20:14,640 --> 01:20:17,400
the 10th company on the bottom is a

1605
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,320
small one-man operation that he's coming

1606
01:20:19,320 --> 01:20:21,900
in also in lieu of staff to help you do

1607
01:20:21,900 --> 01:20:25,020
grant writing and some applications

1608
01:20:25,020 --> 01:20:28,080
um but I need all of these groups to do

1609
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:30,659
the work of that yeah now even if I had

1610
01:20:30,659 --> 01:20:32,340
staff I probably would still need this

1611
01:20:32,340 --> 01:20:33,239
group

1612
01:20:33,239 --> 01:20:34,920
um because these are all like PE

1613
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,560
companies but I probably would need as

1614
01:20:37,560 --> 01:20:40,320
many so this is what we're using right

1615
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,440
now so I have this is what I call my

1616
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:47,760
stable firms I rotate the work

1617
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,280
um so I started you know I go to GPI GPI

1618
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:52,440
is working on the paving program and

1619
01:20:52,440 --> 01:20:54,060
then I'll go okay MJ you're doing this

1620
01:20:54,060 --> 01:20:56,219
cha I'm working with them on Sports yeah

1621
01:20:56,219 --> 01:20:59,940
uh all the contracts were reviewed

1622
01:20:59,940 --> 01:21:02,520
approved and created by my office

1623
01:21:02,520 --> 01:21:04,860
we were outside a lot we did our own

1624
01:21:04,860 --> 01:21:07,440
contracts I hired my own attorney

1625
01:21:07,440 --> 01:21:09,179
we did everything on our own

1626
01:21:09,179 --> 01:21:11,219
independently of essentially the rest of

1627
01:21:11,219 --> 01:21:12,060
the city

1628
01:21:12,060 --> 01:21:13,980
so we're

1629
01:21:13,980 --> 01:21:16,080
are these fees

1630
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:19,980
in this budget these fees are in the

1631
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:23,580
projects oh okay I got it these are I

1632
01:21:23,580 --> 01:21:25,320
got it okay these are the soft costs

1633
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:28,080
associated with the products so these

1634
01:21:28,080 --> 01:21:29,040
are

1635
01:21:29,040 --> 01:21:31,199
you know um like for example you

1636
01:21:31,199 --> 01:21:33,360
approved money for uh Central Park

1637
01:21:33,360 --> 01:21:35,100
tennis courts yeah

1638
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:37,620
25 000 of the 500 000 you approve is

1639
01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:40,340
going to go to the design of the 500.

1640
01:21:40,340 --> 01:21:43,199
uh you know chips money all the the

1641
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:45,480
state money that we get and allow to do

1642
01:21:45,480 --> 01:21:47,580
the inspection and the design of the

1643
01:21:47,580 --> 01:21:49,500
world so that's where the accounting

1644
01:21:49,500 --> 01:21:50,580
comes in

1645
01:21:50,580 --> 01:21:52,860
you know we have a lot going on upstairs

1646
01:21:52,860 --> 01:21:55,140
with how are we paying it where is it

1647
01:21:55,140 --> 01:21:57,239
coming from what reimbursements do we

1648
01:21:57,239 --> 01:22:00,540
have it's a lot of paperwork but most of

1649
01:22:00,540 --> 01:22:02,280
this other than I say civil engineer

1650
01:22:02,280 --> 01:22:05,580
foreign female that is in lieu of staff

1651
01:22:05,580 --> 01:22:08,880
so actually civil engineer for in the

1652
01:22:08,880 --> 01:22:11,699
office assistant those two positions are

1653
01:22:11,699 --> 01:22:14,760
coming out of salary lines oh okay

1654
01:22:14,760 --> 01:22:15,920
because

1655
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:18,300
if you were to look right now the last

1656
01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:20,340
time I looked at something like two

1657
01:22:20,340 --> 01:22:21,600
hundred thousand dollars available on

1658
01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:23,219
our salary lines if you don't have

1659
01:22:23,219 --> 01:22:26,239
people got a chance

1660
01:22:26,239 --> 01:22:29,179
so everything else is a product

1661
01:22:29,179 --> 01:22:30,960
what's the other one that comes out of

1662
01:22:30,960 --> 01:22:34,140
the cellular line besides the ms4 office

1663
01:22:34,140 --> 01:22:36,960
assistance and support the last one fcm

1664
01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:39,780
and that's brand new we just

1665
01:22:39,780 --> 01:22:42,360
so I can I can just touch on that so the

1666
01:22:42,360 --> 01:22:44,460
issue why I had to bring fcm engineering

1667
01:22:44,460 --> 01:22:47,520
on is uh on the next sheets you'll see

1668
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,340
them but well I have seven major

1669
01:22:50,340 --> 01:22:53,280
projects that are right now just kind of

1670
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,420
held up

1671
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:57,239
all the projects have stepped

1672
01:22:57,239 --> 01:22:59,280
you have to do an RFP you have to

1673
01:22:59,280 --> 01:23:01,440
evaluate the RFP you have to send in the

1674
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,179
evaluations then you're allowed to put

1675
01:23:03,179 --> 01:23:04,679
people on once you go through all those

1676
01:23:04,679 --> 01:23:05,699
steps

1677
01:23:05,699 --> 01:23:07,800
um unlike a lot of other things I can't

1678
01:23:07,800 --> 01:23:10,080
just bring a firm on that I like for

1679
01:23:10,080 --> 01:23:13,199
those particular these firms I bring on

1680
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:16,080
for smaller project City projects those

1681
01:23:16,080 --> 01:23:17,760
are big Federal projects I have to go

1682
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:19,320
through them along the process the

1683
01:23:19,320 --> 01:23:21,120
problem is I don't have the time to

1684
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:25,020
write seven rfps so he's coming on board

1685
01:23:25,020 --> 01:23:27,780
he has experience writing them so he's

1686
01:23:27,780 --> 01:23:29,040
going to help you write them we're going

1687
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:30,300
to I'm just going to really want me

1688
01:23:30,300 --> 01:23:31,260
we're going to send them out and he's

1689
01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:32,520
going

1690
01:23:32,520 --> 01:23:33,840
you know then I'm going to get 10

1691
01:23:33,840 --> 01:23:35,760
responses for each one of them I'm gonna

1692
01:23:35,760 --> 01:23:37,620
have to review 70 responses and then you

1693
01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:39,120
know it the process is going to be

1694
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:40,860
lengthy but you know the number one

1695
01:23:40,860 --> 01:23:42,719
project is Craig Street and Craig

1696
01:23:42,719 --> 01:23:45,300
Street's actually three projects so you

1697
01:23:45,300 --> 01:23:47,280
know do that one is number one and cream

1698
01:23:47,280 --> 01:23:49,199
Street then the train main intersection

1699
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:51,239
and all the dri projects project because

1700
01:23:51,239 --> 01:23:54,420
we did get the dri contracts but unless

1701
01:23:54,420 --> 01:23:56,400
I get these rfps out in the RFP for

1702
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:57,719
those has to go to the Department of

1703
01:23:57,719 --> 01:23:58,380
State

1704
01:23:58,380 --> 01:24:01,140
and then come back for a review and we

1705
01:24:01,140 --> 01:24:02,580
everything we do with them has to be

1706
01:24:02,580 --> 01:24:04,380
given to them so the process is going to

1707
01:24:04,380 --> 01:24:05,400
be

1708
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:08,280
so all these firms are what we do and

1709
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:10,199
then at the end of 2023 I'm gonna have

1710
01:24:10,199 --> 01:24:12,600
to solicit review and do it all again I

1711
01:24:12,600 --> 01:24:13,800
mean it's the most fair and Equitable

1712
01:24:13,800 --> 01:24:17,040
way to do things but once again time you

1713
01:24:17,040 --> 01:24:19,500
know I was going to point out um same

1714
01:24:19,500 --> 01:24:22,320
thing with these transitions that are

1715
01:24:22,320 --> 01:24:23,699
open

1716
01:24:23,699 --> 01:24:24,659
um

1717
01:24:24,659 --> 01:24:27,600
every time that I do something it's time

1718
01:24:27,600 --> 01:24:29,580
that I'm not doing something else

1719
01:24:29,580 --> 01:24:31,560
so if you were to say you know Chris you

1720
01:24:31,560 --> 01:24:32,820
know what you really need to focus and

1721
01:24:32,820 --> 01:24:34,679
hire and fill these positions

1722
01:24:34,679 --> 01:24:37,920
I'm not going to do this for a while and

1723
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:39,360
then we're going to get complaints that

1724
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:40,560
things aren't getting done on this side

1725
01:24:40,560 --> 01:24:42,600
of it because I'm doing this you know

1726
01:24:42,600 --> 01:24:44,520
there's not this when you go up there

1727
01:24:44,520 --> 01:24:46,380
it's me and Colleen mcgarrett there is

1728
01:24:46,380 --> 01:24:48,420
not a person behind the room there's no

1729
01:24:48,420 --> 01:24:50,340
one up there to help you know do these

1730
01:24:50,340 --> 01:24:52,020
things so that's where it does get a

1731
01:24:52,020 --> 01:24:54,600
little frustrating that you know I do

1732
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:55,920
want to hire people

1733
01:24:55,920 --> 01:24:57,900
but when do I dedicate your time to hire

1734
01:24:57,900 --> 01:24:59,940
people because if something needs to get

1735
01:24:59,940 --> 01:25:02,100
changed like a job qualification then

1736
01:25:02,100 --> 01:25:04,380
I absolutely change and work with Mary

1737
01:25:04,380 --> 01:25:07,140
it's a long process that's why I want to

1738
01:25:07,140 --> 01:25:10,320
ask you is how that connects to HR

1739
01:25:10,320 --> 01:25:12,120
you're hiring

1740
01:25:12,120 --> 01:25:13,560
so you said that you would have to do

1741
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,540
the work so what part of it does HR help

1742
01:25:15,540 --> 01:25:17,699
with so HR will post it

1743
01:25:17,699 --> 01:25:20,340
you know like if I ask uh Karen I want

1744
01:25:20,340 --> 01:25:22,199
to post these positions she puts them up

1745
01:25:22,199 --> 01:25:24,300
and she's using now the website and

1746
01:25:24,300 --> 01:25:26,940
indeed and a couple other areas and uh

1747
01:25:26,940 --> 01:25:28,380
and then she'll post it for the amount

1748
01:25:28,380 --> 01:25:30,480
of time and then send me the resumes

1749
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:31,800
okay

1750
01:25:31,800 --> 01:25:34,980
um the issue is indeed it's kind of like

1751
01:25:34,980 --> 01:25:37,679
uh indeed it's kind of like a shotgun

1752
01:25:37,679 --> 01:25:40,440
blast you get things from everywhere and

1753
01:25:40,440 --> 01:25:41,580
I don't even know if they know what

1754
01:25:41,580 --> 01:25:43,080
they're applying to one of the

1755
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:44,580
applications said you know I'd be

1756
01:25:44,580 --> 01:25:46,199
willing to move from Arizona if you paid

1757
01:25:46,199 --> 01:25:48,420
relocation fees you know and it's like

1758
01:25:48,420 --> 01:25:49,920
okay they probably don't understand what

1759
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,380
we are and

1760
01:25:52,380 --> 01:25:54,719
um and then then we have you know the

1761
01:25:54,719 --> 01:25:57,300
issue of some of the positions I'll tell

1762
01:25:57,300 --> 01:25:58,920
you I was waiting to post until after

1763
01:25:58,920 --> 01:26:01,080
the conversation or The Residency thing

1764
01:26:01,080 --> 01:26:03,900
because all of our applications go out

1765
01:26:03,900 --> 01:26:05,639
saying you know applicants must even

1766
01:26:05,639 --> 01:26:08,280
live in the city so I do know a lot of

1767
01:26:08,280 --> 01:26:10,500
professionals are not going well why

1768
01:26:10,500 --> 01:26:12,179
would you apply your job or at the

1769
01:26:12,179 --> 01:26:14,100
bottom of it where it says requirements

1770
01:26:14,100 --> 01:26:16,620
it says it if you can so when we post we

1771
01:26:16,620 --> 01:26:19,080
don't get a lot of responses but indeed

1772
01:26:19,080 --> 01:26:20,580
it doesn't happen indeed it's just a big

1773
01:26:20,580 --> 01:26:22,620
Rule and you'll pull from

1774
01:26:22,620 --> 01:26:24,900
so but wouldn't some of these positions

1775
01:26:24,900 --> 01:26:27,239
be considered specialty positions so The

1776
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,300
Residency requirement

1777
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:32,880
I'm not aware of that exceptions that we

1778
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:35,840
just have to get a waiver oh okay

1779
01:26:35,840 --> 01:26:38,760
so in fact in the last few years we were

1780
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,699
trying to uh apply for these jobs we've

1781
01:26:41,699 --> 01:26:43,679
had months where nobody would even apply

1782
01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:45,480
we you know we put them out there nobody

1783
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:47,219
would even apply for it for these

1784
01:26:47,219 --> 01:26:49,620
positions and I mean I don't want to get

1785
01:26:49,620 --> 01:26:52,080
Louise with everything but now too so us

1786
01:26:52,080 --> 01:26:54,420
was it civil service we're really

1787
01:26:54,420 --> 01:26:56,219
looking at qualifications

1788
01:26:56,219 --> 01:26:58,380
so where even if we feel like somebody

1789
01:26:58,380 --> 01:26:59,760
has a good head on their shoulders and

1790
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:04,440
did a well interview and we think um they may not be approved

1791
01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:06,060
because their background and experience

1792
01:27:06,060 --> 01:27:07,560
may not match up with Civil Service

1793
01:27:07,560 --> 01:27:10,380
things the position can have can do and

1794
01:27:10,380 --> 01:27:11,940
they get rejected and that's happened

1795
01:27:11,940 --> 01:27:15,020
quite a few times recently so

1796
01:27:15,020 --> 01:27:18,480
it's yes oh I mean I I don't really want

1797
01:27:18,480 --> 01:27:20,580
to do that defense but isn't it like

1798
01:27:20,580 --> 01:27:22,440
what do you have to say or whatever a

1799
01:27:22,440 --> 01:27:24,060
professional is doing the hiring has to

1800
01:27:24,060 --> 01:27:26,040
say doesn't that carry any weight at all

1801
01:27:26,040 --> 01:27:31,810
with social services

1802
01:27:31,820 --> 01:27:36,060
oh my gosh hmm maybe she's upright the

1803
01:27:36,060 --> 01:27:43,669
job description

1804
01:27:43,679 --> 01:27:45,120
listening to all this and I really

1805
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:47,159
appreciate and recognize your Ingenuity

1806
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:48,420
because it seems like you're just

1807
01:27:48,420 --> 01:27:49,880
keeping this

1808
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:52,620
barely from capsizing with like The

1809
01:27:52,620 --> 01:27:55,440
Limited crew and it gets reflected like

1810
01:27:55,440 --> 01:27:57,480
you're doing a lot with limited

1811
01:27:57,480 --> 01:28:00,420
resources I guess I I want to know if

1812
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:03,600
you're able to identify if this person

1813
01:28:03,600 --> 01:28:05,159
hasn't already passed but where's your

1814
01:28:05,159 --> 01:28:07,560
breaking point is it truly the oh no

1815
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:09,679
don't say it

1816
01:28:09,679 --> 01:28:13,340
don't don't know anything

1817
01:28:13,340 --> 01:28:16,199
about it sorry it's uh I'm trying to

1818
01:28:16,199 --> 01:28:18,659
know when our point is if we need to act

1819
01:28:18,659 --> 01:28:19,980
or change something differently because

1820
01:28:19,980 --> 01:28:22,920
I think you're aware of the posting

1821
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:24,480
positions we're knocking applicants so

1822
01:28:24,480 --> 01:28:25,679
it's when do we need to do something

1823
01:28:25,679 --> 01:28:28,080
different has that moment already passed

1824
01:28:28,080 --> 01:28:30,840
or truly what is going to be lacking

1825
01:28:30,840 --> 01:28:33,060
within the city if it can't be anything

1826
01:28:33,060 --> 01:28:35,219
on this first page because I know our

1827
01:28:35,219 --> 01:28:38,040
projects that we need to do them so yeah

1828
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:39,659
and this first page let me see you're

1829
01:28:39,659 --> 01:28:41,580
looking at this was just an example I

1830
01:28:41,580 --> 01:28:42,840
printed this because I didn't think you

1831
01:28:42,840 --> 01:28:44,540
guys would believe me

1832
01:28:44,540 --> 01:28:47,460
uh this page I highlighted this this

1833
01:28:47,460 --> 01:28:51,000
date here is December of 2015 so it

1834
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:52,500
shows you how long I've been doing these

1835
01:28:52,500 --> 01:28:55,139
sheets so these sheets I put them in

1836
01:28:55,139 --> 01:28:57,300
that PDF that I sent out these are the

1837
01:28:57,300 --> 01:28:58,679
only thing that keeps me sane and

1838
01:28:58,679 --> 01:29:01,500
organized it's a silly Excel document

1839
01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:04,500
that is organized but it's organized by

1840
01:29:04,500 --> 01:29:06,780
project type who I gave it to

1841
01:29:06,780 --> 01:29:09,719
assignments what category is under so I

1842
01:29:09,719 --> 01:29:10,920
just wanted to show you that I didn't

1843
01:29:10,920 --> 01:29:12,420
make these documents because what I what

1844
01:29:12,420 --> 01:29:13,860
I was afraid of is that you guys would

1845
01:29:13,860 --> 01:29:15,239
say well no wonder Chris was so

1846
01:29:15,239 --> 01:29:16,260
overwhelmed we spent all this time

1847
01:29:16,260 --> 01:29:18,480
making these freaking documents and

1848
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,880
these documents exist this is this is

1849
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:23,219
how I is a budget folder year to year

1850
01:29:23,219 --> 01:29:25,260
and all this exists and this is my

1851
01:29:25,260 --> 01:29:27,659
day-to-day so um you know for instance

1852
01:29:27,659 --> 01:29:29,699
the one thing I will show is that you

1853
01:29:29,699 --> 01:29:32,100
know this this sheet here this is the

1854
01:29:32,100 --> 01:29:34,739
closed project I apologize they're gray

1855
01:29:34,739 --> 01:29:36,179
on my sheet I didn't think about the

1856
01:29:36,179 --> 01:29:39,179
flexibility I have gray and small but

1857
01:29:39,179 --> 01:29:41,520
you know 6 5 million dollars of

1858
01:29:41,520 --> 01:29:43,139
completed projects

1859
01:29:43,139 --> 01:29:45,480
you know and that probably up and down

1860
01:29:45,480 --> 01:29:48,780
and then the next sheet is uh and

1861
01:29:48,780 --> 01:29:50,580
usually when I printed my 11 by 17 but I

1862
01:29:50,580 --> 01:29:52,440
thought that'd be harder to hold but uh

1863
01:29:52,440 --> 01:29:54,960
the next one is my construction project

1864
01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:56,520
you know so these are all the projects

1865
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,800
that are Bid awarded in construction

1866
01:29:58,800 --> 01:30:01,080
going to construction something so right

1867
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:02,940
now you know our department has 21

1868
01:30:02,940 --> 01:30:04,620
million dollars of projects in

1869
01:30:04,620 --> 01:30:06,600
construction and all this is is just

1870
01:30:06,600 --> 01:30:08,639
sorting it you know John's types it

1871
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:10,679
doesn't come too short then you get to

1872
01:30:10,679 --> 01:30:14,159
design I have 27 million dollars of

1873
01:30:14,159 --> 01:30:16,739
project in design phase so these are the

1874
01:30:16,739 --> 01:30:19,739
projects that are going to happen next

1875
01:30:19,739 --> 01:30:21,780
year some point that we're working on

1876
01:30:21,780 --> 01:30:23,159
designing

1877
01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:26,400
um so examples are docs Kings Road

1878
01:30:26,400 --> 01:30:29,040
Bridge under there uh Forest Road

1879
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:30,780
improvements which we're working on City

1880
01:30:30,780 --> 01:30:33,420
Hall projects and road projects of 27

1881
01:30:33,420 --> 01:30:34,739
million dollars of active design

1882
01:30:34,739 --> 01:30:37,560
projects and then the impending one is

1883
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:39,420
projects that aren't quite off the

1884
01:30:39,420 --> 01:30:42,659
ground yet but all have Merit uh for the

1885
01:30:42,659 --> 01:30:45,420
dri is on here right now because

1886
01:30:45,420 --> 01:30:47,340
I'm still working on getting firms on it

1887
01:30:47,340 --> 01:30:49,560
once I get a firm signed and on board it

1888
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:52,080
moves from pending to design so right

1889
01:30:52,080 --> 01:30:55,620
now this is 27 million so 27 million 27

1890
01:30:55,620 --> 01:30:57,480
million 21 million so we're right around

1891
01:30:57,480 --> 01:31:00,179
70 million dollars of construction in

1892
01:31:00,179 --> 01:31:02,460
some capacity and I guess my point was

1893
01:31:02,460 --> 01:31:05,820
when I was getting at is all of this is

1894
01:31:05,820 --> 01:31:09,540
in addition to this

1895
01:31:09,540 --> 01:31:12,600
you know so like yesterday uh my

1896
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:13,920
assistant you know his daughter had a

1897
01:31:13,920 --> 01:31:16,679
baby his first grandchild he wasn't in

1898
01:31:16,679 --> 01:31:19,739
so there is myself and Colleen and we do

1899
01:31:19,739 --> 01:31:22,440
this so it it's a challenge your

1900
01:31:22,440 --> 01:31:25,860
breaking point I don't know if I have I mean I think

1901
01:31:25,860 --> 01:31:27,600
I'm well beyond it you know it's like

1902
01:31:27,600 --> 01:31:28,739
one of those things is once you're into

1903
01:31:28,739 --> 01:31:30,540
the insanity you're into it you know

1904
01:31:30,540 --> 01:31:31,860
what I mean looking at these sheets by

1905
01:31:31,860 --> 01:31:34,440
looking at the Matrix but uh the one

1906
01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:37,669
thing I will say is that

1907
01:31:37,679 --> 01:31:39,659
um I do feel that

1908
01:31:39,659 --> 01:31:42,060
what will be determined the Department's

1909
01:31:42,060 --> 01:31:44,699
not what I wanted to be I don't think it

1910
01:31:44,699 --> 01:31:46,620
fairly represents what I wanted to be if

1911
01:31:46,620 --> 01:31:47,580
you were to come up into the department

1912
01:31:47,580 --> 01:31:50,280
it looks like hell I mean you know

1913
01:31:50,280 --> 01:31:52,739
because the maps I have to put them away

1914
01:31:52,739 --> 01:31:54,440
because no one else knows where they go

1915
01:31:54,440 --> 01:31:56,820
so they don't get put away they just get

1916
01:31:56,820 --> 01:31:58,020
stacked up because I don't have time to

1917
01:31:58,020 --> 01:31:59,880
put the maps away right our furniture is

1918
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:02,280
from 1940 we don't have staff you know

1919
01:32:02,280 --> 01:32:04,260
what I mean like so if if you come up

1920
01:32:04,260 --> 01:32:06,360
people appreciate what we're doing but I

1921
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:08,159
don't feel it it reflects what we're

1922
01:32:08,159 --> 01:32:11,639
doing and similarly the pool project or

1923
01:32:11,639 --> 01:32:13,440
the road project those projects I

1924
01:32:13,440 --> 01:32:15,719
haven't seen them because if I leave my

1925
01:32:15,719 --> 01:32:19,380
office then the wheels stop working and

1926
01:32:19,380 --> 01:32:21,239
so I have people that go out and tell me

1927
01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:23,580
they send me text photos of it so I'm

1928
01:32:23,580 --> 01:32:25,260
like Herbert Hughes up there in my

1929
01:32:25,260 --> 01:32:27,179
office all the time just making sure the

1930
01:32:27,179 --> 01:32:29,689
paperwork

1931
01:32:29,699 --> 01:32:31,199
um but that's where I was going to ask

1932
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:34,320
you like all of the um projects that we

1933
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,179
have approved through our that are here

1934
01:32:36,179 --> 01:32:37,980
in the capital budget

1935
01:32:37,980 --> 01:32:39,420
um which I think we talk about later we

1936
01:32:39,420 --> 01:32:40,380
haven't talked about this we're going to

1937
01:32:40,380 --> 01:32:41,820
talk about right after this yeah

1938
01:32:41,820 --> 01:32:44,400
um those aren't even this are they

1939
01:32:44,400 --> 01:32:45,960
all well that's what I'm getting at is

1940
01:32:45,960 --> 01:32:50,620
that not on bet they are on these

1941
01:32:50,620 --> 01:33:00,550
[Music]

1942
01:33:00,560 --> 01:33:03,480
but and I do have people working but

1943
01:33:03,480 --> 01:33:05,100
what I'm getting at is that like for

1944
01:33:05,100 --> 01:33:06,540
instance I showed up competing yesterday

1945
01:33:06,540 --> 01:33:08,580
and the comment was Oh I thought you

1946
01:33:08,580 --> 01:33:10,739
were dead because that particular person

1947
01:33:10,739 --> 01:33:12,360
that was at the meeting sent me five

1948
01:33:12,360 --> 01:33:14,219
emails when I got back to none of them

1949
01:33:14,219 --> 01:33:16,620
because the emails were about something

1950
01:33:16,620 --> 01:33:20,460
that was bio important to them

1951
01:33:20,460 --> 01:33:22,800
wasn't my priority you know my

1952
01:33:22,800 --> 01:33:24,600
priorities right now are finished piece

1953
01:33:24,600 --> 01:33:26,639
up was to open the bridge right kind of

1954
01:33:26,639 --> 01:33:28,380
get everything dialed in for the winner

1955
01:33:28,380 --> 01:33:31,320
get the pool done pay bills

1956
01:33:31,320 --> 01:33:32,820
you know a lot of times we don't pay

1957
01:33:32,820 --> 01:33:35,159
bills on time that's a huge issue for

1958
01:33:35,159 --> 01:33:37,440
Anthony and we'll get people because

1959
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,179
it's a big stack of bills

1960
01:33:39,179 --> 01:33:41,100
you know so we got to pay the bills

1961
01:33:41,100 --> 01:33:43,860
that's that's the problem is that I I

1962
01:33:43,860 --> 01:33:45,600
like my job and I like what we're doing

1963
01:33:45,600 --> 01:33:47,580
but I don't think it represents what I

1964
01:33:47,580 --> 01:33:49,560
wanted to represent I wanted to be

1965
01:33:49,560 --> 01:33:51,719
a slick organization book with the

1966
01:33:51,719 --> 01:33:54,239
amount of money that we're doing and the

1967
01:33:54,239 --> 01:33:55,860
amount of staff that we have it's not

1968
01:33:55,860 --> 01:33:57,900
possible there's a lot of bumps in the

1969
01:33:57,900 --> 01:33:59,580
world and I think people are cognizant

1970
01:33:59,580 --> 01:34:01,560
of it which makes it workable like

1971
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:03,179
people know that they're busy they know

1972
01:34:03,179 --> 01:34:04,860
what we're doing I mean we talked about

1973
01:34:04,860 --> 01:34:06,360
it you know

1974
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:08,159
um I got you know the most federal money

1975
01:34:08,159 --> 01:34:11,760
this year of all 20 mispowers we got 60

1976
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,840
million dollars the next highest was six

1977
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:17,340
it's the dri if you were to have to

1978
01:34:17,340 --> 01:34:19,920
worry about the dri the dri was awarded

1979
01:34:19,920 --> 01:34:21,540
because of one of my products because

1980
01:34:21,540 --> 01:34:25,040
they loved it so much that they

1981
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:29,689
that's another

1982
01:34:29,699 --> 01:34:31,679
and so it's doable I know this sounds

1983
01:34:31,679 --> 01:34:33,300
like

1984
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:35,460
boasting at the same time

1985
01:34:35,460 --> 01:34:37,920
but I like this is this is engineering

1986
01:34:37,920 --> 01:34:39,600
this is what we're doing

1987
01:34:39,600 --> 01:34:41,940
um I would appreciate more staff I don't

1988
01:34:41,940 --> 01:34:43,080
know how we get there we have the

1989
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,300
Consultants to do it uh you know that's

1990
01:34:45,300 --> 01:34:48,120
why the Fearless is that I Rely a lot on

1991
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:51,679
John you know I realize

1992
01:34:51,679 --> 01:34:54,420
no I'm just saying what's what's I'm

1993
01:34:54,420 --> 01:34:57,060
nervous about the future yeah I'm

1994
01:34:57,060 --> 01:34:59,040
nervous about you know like Paul and I

1995
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,280
have a really good relationship

1996
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:03,480
he knows what I know what he does he

1997
01:35:03,480 --> 01:35:07,260
knows what I you know and everybody's

1998
01:35:07,260 --> 01:35:09,239
who you see in a year this department

1999
01:35:09,239 --> 01:35:12,179
when the city is going vastly different

2000
01:35:12,179 --> 01:35:17,960
so Chris I mean we know I can speak

2001
01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:21,239
historically you're coming for us almost

2002
01:35:21,239 --> 01:35:22,500
every budget

2003
01:35:22,500 --> 01:35:24,000
you know talking about your department

2004
01:35:24,000 --> 01:35:25,860
is not complaining it's not posting it's

2005
01:35:25,860 --> 01:35:27,600
what you're doing on a daily basis so I

2006
01:35:27,600 --> 01:35:29,639
want to reference that and we have seen

2007
01:35:29,639 --> 01:35:31,800
it we're seeing it across the city the

2008
01:35:31,800 --> 01:35:33,600
project that you're completing it was

2009
01:35:33,600 --> 01:35:35,699
what you're doing answer and the past

2010
01:35:35,699 --> 01:35:37,080
you keep taking on one of the daily

2011
01:35:37,080 --> 01:35:40,560
bases now um just cross my mind looking

2012
01:35:40,560 --> 01:35:42,900
at this document here this document here

2013
01:35:42,900 --> 01:35:45,600
is more of a scheduler who will help

2014
01:35:45,600 --> 01:35:46,920
with this have you ever considered

2015
01:35:46,920 --> 01:36:09,790
hiring a schedule to help a schedule yes

2016
01:36:09,800 --> 01:36:13,380
Anthony was really pushing me towards I

2017
01:36:13,380 --> 01:36:15,659
think I think what's happened over the

2018
01:36:15,659 --> 01:36:17,100
first eight years and I've been here

2019
01:36:17,100 --> 01:36:19,380
kind of first eight years was we'd be we

2020
01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:21,600
have been really obsessed with trying to

2021
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:24,000
hire a PT we have to hire a PD let's get

2022
01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:27,239
another PE but what's happened is now

2023
01:36:27,239 --> 01:36:28,980
that I have this and this isn't new

2024
01:36:28,980 --> 01:36:31,080
these you know this is this this

2025
01:36:31,080 --> 01:36:34,860
grouping is new these are PES all right

2026
01:36:34,860 --> 01:36:36,900
these people are more than qualified to

2027
01:36:36,900 --> 01:36:38,760
do engineering that's the you know the

2028
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,159
firms I have these are all the PES right

2029
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:43,679
what Anthony and I have come what he has

2030
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:47,100
made me realize honestly is that

2031
01:36:47,100 --> 01:36:50,280
bodies who know the Arid system right

2032
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:52,320
can help with things like because if you

2033
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,060
have to think about it like if I were to

2034
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:55,679
leave I'm not saying but if I were to

2035
01:36:55,679 --> 01:36:59,699
leave no one knows where the maps go now

2036
01:36:59,699 --> 01:37:01,679
you know I call I actually call Steve

2037
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:03,780
Caruso who was here for 30 years I don't

2038
01:37:03,780 --> 01:37:05,219
know if you guys remember Steve Stevens

2039
01:37:05,219 --> 01:37:08,219
phenomenal I call Steve once a month to

2040
01:37:08,219 --> 01:37:10,139
ask him where something goes

2041
01:37:10,139 --> 01:37:12,600
because that's just how it works you

2042
01:37:12,600 --> 01:37:14,820
know there's we have no institutional

2043
01:37:14,820 --> 01:37:17,040
knowledge up there I have a hard time

2044
01:37:17,040 --> 01:37:18,600
struggling with things you know the same

2045
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:19,920
way we're like we're looking for an

2046
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:22,980
as-built map of uh Kingsway arm over off

2047
01:37:22,980 --> 01:37:25,320
of Kings Road yeah and I'm like I know

2048
01:37:25,320 --> 01:37:27,300
we built this in the 80s like why can't

2049
01:37:27,300 --> 01:37:29,159
I find a map of it and you know he came

2050
01:37:29,159 --> 01:37:30,719
he was doing something came here and

2051
01:37:30,719 --> 01:37:32,100
he's like oh you know why it's because

2052
01:37:32,100 --> 01:37:33,780
it was called this

2053
01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:36,000
and I'm like oh he found it in the book

2054
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:38,639
and I'm like you know and that's what

2055
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:40,139
I'm getting at it's like those little

2056
01:37:40,139 --> 01:37:41,699
things I would love to hire someone to

2057
01:37:41,699 --> 01:37:42,840
come

2058
01:37:42,840 --> 01:37:44,760
go through everything and just scanning

2059
01:37:44,760 --> 01:37:46,980
and just once again I would have to do

2060
01:37:46,980 --> 01:37:50,340
all of that that's a huge process so it

2061
01:37:50,340 --> 01:38:06,910
doesn't get done because these things

2062
01:38:06,920 --> 01:38:10,260
in terms of the ips3 for example

2063
01:38:10,260 --> 01:38:14,100
um and I know the idea of working within

2064
01:38:14,100 --> 01:38:16,020
a class and getting outside of a class

2065
01:38:16,020 --> 01:38:17,880
but so I don't know all the details

2066
01:38:17,880 --> 01:38:19,980
there but I mean would that person be

2067
01:38:19,980 --> 01:38:21,840
able to help you with

2068
01:38:21,840 --> 01:38:25,380
filing the maps or for example the bills

2069
01:38:25,380 --> 01:38:27,540
I guess and I feel like we heard this a

2070
01:38:27,540 --> 01:38:31,500
little bit with Mr Gardner as well like

2071
01:38:31,500 --> 01:38:34,679
why are you having to pay the bill bills

2072
01:38:34,679 --> 01:38:37,440
as opposed to somebody in our

2073
01:38:37,440 --> 01:38:39,120
accounting area

2074
01:38:39,120 --> 01:38:42,300
we pay them but if we process it from

2075
01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:45,020
them yes

2076
01:38:45,020 --> 01:38:47,659
the approval piece yeah

2077
01:38:47,659 --> 01:38:50,340
I would rather do his end than mine

2078
01:38:50,340 --> 01:38:53,100
I mean it's hard again it's still it's

2079
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:55,260
still creating you know getting the

2080
01:38:55,260 --> 01:38:57,000
invoice creating the you know the

2081
01:38:57,000 --> 01:38:59,820
requisition form Finance so I signed I

2082
01:38:59,820 --> 01:39:04,199
probably have to do that Colleen does that so and she does

2083
01:39:04,199 --> 01:39:05,940
that for all the facilities in the golf

2084
01:39:05,940 --> 01:39:07,159
course

2085
01:39:07,159 --> 01:39:21,169
the parks

2086
01:39:21,179 --> 01:39:23,219
now my name is just like a circle

2087
01:39:23,219 --> 01:39:25,380
because it's just such a because that's

2088
01:39:25,380 --> 01:39:27,719
we have to sign I have to sign a lot of

2089
01:39:27,719 --> 01:39:30,540
stuff and I don't know

2090
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:32,219
if there's any other questions like who

2091
01:39:32,219 --> 01:39:34,139
would sign it otherwise you know if you

2092
01:39:34,139 --> 01:39:36,960
don't have it no I get that I just was I

2093
01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:38,400
mean to answer that Chris is more of you

2094
01:39:38,400 --> 01:39:39,719
signing it because you're doing you're

2095
01:39:39,719 --> 01:39:42,060
looking at the progress work and you're

2096
01:39:42,060 --> 01:39:43,260
looking at something else on the payment

2097
01:39:43,260 --> 01:39:44,820
application so they're feeling for what

2098
01:39:44,820 --> 01:39:47,040
is completed yeah building for excessive

2099
01:39:47,040 --> 01:39:49,139
work that is yeah the other part of it

2100
01:39:49,139 --> 01:39:50,940
is though is it's just

2101
01:39:50,940 --> 01:39:55,860
I mean honestly being a supervisor right so last week you know I went last

2102
01:39:55,860 --> 01:39:58,800
week one of the bills had a vendor's

2103
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:01,739
home on it was just the wrong because it

2104
01:40:01,739 --> 01:40:03,360
got the wrong Bill nobody caught it and

2105
01:40:03,360 --> 01:40:04,800
you know so I called him up and I said

2106
01:40:04,800 --> 01:40:05,940
is this the right bill that has your

2107
01:40:05,940 --> 01:40:07,800
home address on it he goes oh no that

2108
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,719
should be this you know so it wasn't

2109
01:40:09,719 --> 01:40:11,760
caught and some bills say the wrong

2110
01:40:11,760 --> 01:40:13,560
place okay they have to want to know we

2111
01:40:13,560 --> 01:40:15,120
bought this from Home Depot

2112
01:40:15,120 --> 01:40:18,300
who does it get charged with and also I

2113
01:40:18,300 --> 01:40:20,580
mean there is value that I have to do

2114
01:40:20,580 --> 01:40:22,560
these things that's just a thing it's a

2115
01:40:22,560 --> 01:40:23,719
big thing

2116
01:40:23,719 --> 01:40:27,060
so so it seems like you have a lot of

2117
01:40:27,060 --> 01:40:28,260
free time on your hands that's what

2118
01:40:28,260 --> 01:40:30,900
you're talking about you know I guess I

2119
01:40:30,900 --> 01:40:33,239
like that I like that I won't tell you

2120
01:40:33,239 --> 01:40:34,380
this right because I don't want anything

2121
01:40:34,380 --> 01:40:37,020
you guys think I'm so smart no no no the

2122
01:40:37,020 --> 01:40:40,320
uh I I also have a nine-year-old and an

2123
01:40:40,320 --> 01:40:42,719
11 year old all right so Anthony can

2124
01:40:42,719 --> 01:40:44,520
attest to this when I started here at

2125
01:40:44,520 --> 01:40:46,980
31. I came in

2126
01:40:46,980 --> 01:40:49,260
twice three times a week and I work nine

2127
01:40:49,260 --> 01:40:51,480
to midnight because I like nights and it

2128
01:40:51,480 --> 01:40:54,420
was quiet right those days are long

2129
01:40:54,420 --> 01:40:56,940
behind me I have to get everything I can

2130
01:40:56,940 --> 01:41:00,300
done from nine to five because from five

2131
01:41:00,300 --> 01:41:02,520
to nine is another job it's a whole

2132
01:41:02,520 --> 01:41:04,800
other responsibility and I told him I

2133
01:41:04,800 --> 01:41:06,360
told Anthony that I'm actually staying

2134
01:41:06,360 --> 01:41:08,940
late on Mondays because I get so much

2135
01:41:08,940 --> 01:41:10,500
more done

2136
01:41:10,500 --> 01:41:15,120
browsers when the phones are you know it's amazing what you can just

2137
01:41:15,120 --> 01:41:18,179
put it quiet what you can get done and I

2138
01:41:18,179 --> 01:41:21,120
bet if I could do that more

2139
01:41:21,120 --> 01:41:23,280
I probably wouldn't go as crazy but I

2140
01:41:23,280 --> 01:41:24,960
just not it's not feasible until my kids

2141
01:41:24,960 --> 01:41:26,699
are in college you know where you can

2142
01:41:26,699 --> 01:41:28,560
actually dedicate more time so if you

2143
01:41:28,560 --> 01:41:29,639
guys are sitting around saying you know

2144
01:41:29,639 --> 01:41:32,040
Chris is working 80 hours a week

2145
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,600
I mean I don't want to paint that

2146
01:41:33,600 --> 01:41:36,480
picture I'm I I'm working right I work

2147
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:39,719
more than the you know what it is but

2148
01:41:39,719 --> 01:41:41,639
I also have this other balance which is

2149
01:41:41,639 --> 01:41:43,020
hurting me at the other end of it you

2150
01:41:43,020 --> 01:41:45,119
know like if like a doctor's appointment

2151
01:41:45,119 --> 01:41:47,400
you know like there's life now and work

2152
01:41:47,400 --> 01:41:49,560
and everything you know if I put life

2153
01:41:49,560 --> 01:41:52,920
into these things yeah it'd be crazy so

2154
01:41:52,920 --> 01:41:56,340
no more clay balance no it's it's just

2155
01:41:56,340 --> 01:42:01,930
hard right so in Austin

2156
01:42:01,940 --> 01:42:04,500
I think that so I just want to make sure

2157
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:06,480
I'm going to stand and clear so at one

2158
01:42:06,480 --> 01:42:07,980
point it was like you know and of course

2159
01:42:07,980 --> 01:42:09,960
you need to fill these where you were

2160
01:42:09,960 --> 01:42:13,500
looking to fill these positions but now

2161
01:42:13,500 --> 01:42:15,239
um through kind of here

2162
01:42:15,239 --> 01:42:18,119
uh thinking now is that if we can get

2163
01:42:18,119 --> 01:42:21,420
people who might not even be as uh

2164
01:42:21,420 --> 01:42:23,460
especially skilled training in these

2165
01:42:23,460 --> 01:42:25,500
areas but just want that administrative

2166
01:42:25,500 --> 01:42:27,840
support is as that kind of like the

2167
01:42:27,840 --> 01:42:29,820
direction yeah so one of those like I

2168
01:42:29,820 --> 01:42:32,460
said the senior the senior engineering

2169
01:42:32,460 --> 01:42:35,580
technician was seen as a under a level

2170
01:42:35,580 --> 01:42:37,320
of a junior engineer

2171
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:40,199
but it does not require uh it does it

2172
01:42:40,199 --> 01:42:41,820
has more outs than the job description

2173
01:42:41,820 --> 01:42:43,500
than you know of Junior engineering

2174
01:42:43,500 --> 01:42:44,820
which was a junior engineer if you were

2175
01:42:44,820 --> 01:42:45,659
to look at it I mean you've got to

2176
01:42:45,659 --> 01:42:46,619
remember the history of the city and

2177
01:42:46,619 --> 01:42:47,880
history the job reports the junior

2178
01:42:47,880 --> 01:42:51,000
engineer is a student from Clarkson or

2179
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:53,159
RPI that comes to work for the city I

2180
01:42:53,159 --> 01:42:54,719
was a junior engineer when I started in

2181
01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:57,719
2005. assuming Buffalo graduate right no

2182
01:42:57,719 --> 01:43:00,659
experience come in but I mean I don't I

2183
01:43:00,659 --> 01:43:02,460
talked to the union about it just a

2184
01:43:02,460 --> 01:43:05,060
little bit but

2185
01:43:05,060 --> 01:43:07,860
their rates are here everybody rates are

2186
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:09,840
here you know I told somebody that if

2187
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,340
somebody comes and applies for my junior

2188
01:43:11,340 --> 01:43:12,900
engineering position in this economy

2189
01:43:12,900 --> 01:43:15,780
there's something wrong with them why

2190
01:43:15,780 --> 01:43:18,360
are you find me this unit 65 the dot 65

2191
01:43:18,360 --> 01:43:23,159
and private's over 65. so why would you come here for 45

2192
01:43:23,159 --> 01:43:24,659
you know so that's what we talked about

2193
01:43:24,659 --> 01:43:28,020
trying to get people that are City

2194
01:43:28,020 --> 01:43:31,020
residents that you know like you know

2195
01:43:31,020 --> 01:43:32,520
almost like the cold war try to see what

2196
01:43:32,520 --> 01:43:33,900
codes or you know some kind of level

2197
01:43:33,900 --> 01:43:35,280
where maybe the requirements for

2198
01:43:35,280 --> 01:43:37,560
Education are a little well because it

2199
01:43:37,560 --> 01:43:38,520
doesn't mean you don't have a good head

2200
01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:39,600
on your shoulders it doesn't mean you

2201
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:41,340
can't you know help with the job and

2202
01:43:41,340 --> 01:43:42,719
then we'll train them and the other

2203
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:44,520
thing is trying to get you know and this

2204
01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:47,820
is not trying to be ages it's just my

2205
01:43:47,820 --> 01:43:49,980
staff I get a lot of resumes from people

2206
01:43:49,980 --> 01:43:52,500
who have retired who are looking for

2207
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:55,679
work because they retire at 65 and they

2208
01:43:55,679 --> 01:43:57,540
say I got some good years left in me and

2209
01:43:57,540 --> 01:43:59,940
they want to work and I have gotten a

2210
01:43:59,940 --> 01:44:02,480
lot of resumes like that the problem is

2211
01:44:02,480 --> 01:44:05,280
there's not

2212
01:44:05,280 --> 01:44:06,719
you know like I don't know how much they

2213
01:44:06,719 --> 01:44:08,280
can pass on you know if you have

2214
01:44:08,280 --> 01:44:10,139
somebody who's 40 who's going to be here

2215
01:44:10,139 --> 01:44:13,020
to Pat like if I teach someone that's

2216
01:44:13,020 --> 01:44:14,280
going to retire that's retired

2217
01:44:14,280 --> 01:44:15,659
everything about the city they're gone

2218
01:44:15,659 --> 01:44:17,159
in two years

2219
01:44:17,159 --> 01:44:19,199
they take all of it with them you know

2220
01:44:19,199 --> 01:44:20,940
whereas you know that's what I'm getting

2221
01:44:20,940 --> 01:44:22,320
on my phone is it's like you know I

2222
01:44:22,320 --> 01:44:24,659
spend or 10 years you know

2223
01:44:24,659 --> 01:44:26,520
trying to pass the Anthony is doing that

2224
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:28,260
with Derek you know Derek you know

2225
01:44:28,260 --> 01:44:29,580
working with him to bring him up to

2226
01:44:29,580 --> 01:44:31,139
speed you know having that you know

2227
01:44:31,139 --> 01:44:34,739
right now everyone in my office is you

2228
01:44:34,739 --> 01:44:36,600
know so have you discussion have you

2229
01:44:36,600 --> 01:44:38,460
discussed this resume with the man in

2230
01:44:38,460 --> 01:44:41,900
terms of The Residency uh waiver

2231
01:44:41,900 --> 01:44:43,739
that is something you should discuss

2232
01:44:43,739 --> 01:44:46,199
with him to see if there can be some way

2233
01:44:46,199 --> 01:44:47,820
over

2234
01:44:47,820 --> 01:44:50,100
I actually pushed I said just bring the

2235
01:44:50,100 --> 01:44:53,280
guy in I'll come with you well find

2236
01:44:53,280 --> 01:44:55,080
somebody you like me

2237
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,000
push him in there

2238
01:44:57,000 --> 01:44:59,880
I mean I mean like if I find somebody

2239
01:44:59,880 --> 01:45:01,560
you know and that's the other problem I

2240
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,060
was even trying to

2241
01:45:03,060 --> 01:45:04,980
you know you know we talk about how to

2242
01:45:04,980 --> 01:45:06,480
steal somebody you know can we steal

2243
01:45:06,480 --> 01:45:08,040
somebody from another company or steal

2244
01:45:08,040 --> 01:45:11,060
somebody but they're stealing from us

2245
01:45:11,060 --> 01:45:15,780
I'm just we've thought about it but you

2246
01:45:15,780 --> 01:45:17,400
know you have to pass the exam there is

2247
01:45:17,400 --> 01:45:19,980
no exam available to study off of

2248
01:45:19,980 --> 01:45:22,560
there's there's things it's just it puts

2249
01:45:22,560 --> 01:45:24,060
you in a tough spot

2250
01:45:24,060 --> 01:45:26,699
I'm glad that you you bring this to our

2251
01:45:26,699 --> 01:45:28,980
attention this on this page here in

2252
01:45:28,980 --> 01:45:31,199
terms of outlining the the PE forms and

2253
01:45:31,199 --> 01:45:33,780
that is on board with you to support you

2254
01:45:33,780 --> 01:45:35,340
in the engineering department because

2255
01:45:35,340 --> 01:45:37,020
sometimes we wonder

2256
01:45:37,020 --> 01:45:38,460
are these enough

2257
01:45:38,460 --> 01:45:40,139
um support staff that you have but this

2258
01:45:40,139 --> 01:45:42,480
kind of make a little easy for us to

2259
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:44,340
know that you do have support staff of

2260
01:45:44,340 --> 01:45:46,739
do you need to add more I mean that's

2261
01:45:46,739 --> 01:45:48,960
your call and there is funding available

2262
01:45:48,960 --> 01:45:51,239
for it you should you know because

2263
01:45:51,239 --> 01:45:53,100
you're doing a lot and they're more done

2264
01:45:53,100 --> 01:45:55,560
by playing coming your way

2265
01:45:55,560 --> 01:45:57,860
yeah that was good

2266
01:45:57,860 --> 01:46:00,679
increasingly busy

2267
01:46:00,679 --> 01:46:03,440
money into the city

2268
01:46:03,440 --> 01:46:05,639
I know and that's the other issue is

2269
01:46:05,639 --> 01:46:07,440
Right On My Own Worst Enemy with that

2270
01:46:07,440 --> 01:46:09,780
yeah you don't bring any money in you

2271
01:46:09,780 --> 01:46:11,820
don't really work yeah all right so

2272
01:46:11,820 --> 01:46:13,500
let's go through uh yeah that was in

2273
01:46:13,500 --> 01:46:15,960
depth that was wonderful uh I think that

2274
01:46:15,960 --> 01:46:19,080
was uh so this Ultra Public Works admin

2275
01:46:19,080 --> 01:46:20,880
I have a question about the engineering

2276
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,400
case go ahead

2277
01:46:23,400 --> 01:46:26,880
um so so you wanted to add that we're

2278
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:28,320
not seeing it on here so we want you

2279
01:46:28,320 --> 01:46:31,400
want to add this IPS threads

2280
01:46:31,400 --> 01:46:34,920
page nine page nine age nine Public

2281
01:46:34,920 --> 01:46:37,159
Works admin okay

2282
01:46:37,159 --> 01:46:39,719
38 339

2283
01:46:39,719 --> 01:46:42,960
okay that's where that person is

2284
01:46:42,960 --> 01:46:45,420
yeah all right

2285
01:46:45,420 --> 01:46:47,820
I was just looking at selling

2286
01:46:47,820 --> 01:46:50,400
the csda wants people to start at step

2287
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:52,020
one

2288
01:46:52,020 --> 01:46:53,699
I mean that's the issue with the junior

2289
01:46:53,699 --> 01:46:55,679
engineer engineer Step One is something

2290
01:46:55,679 --> 01:46:58,440
like 45. any question on the Public

2291
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:00,179
Works admin

2292
01:47:00,179 --> 01:47:02,219
no

2293
01:47:02,219 --> 01:47:05,400
yes go ahead please

2294
01:47:05,400 --> 01:47:09,360
um well so uh we see that um let's just

2295
01:47:09,360 --> 01:47:10,440
be

2296
01:47:10,440 --> 01:47:12,840
um we see what your current salary is

2297
01:47:12,840 --> 01:47:15,119
and

2298
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:16,800
is

2299
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:19,320
was there did you request more I mean I

2300
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,540
just wanted to say I sent a request to

2301
01:47:21,540 --> 01:47:23,699
John and yourself I didn't know if I I

2302
01:47:23,699 --> 01:47:25,619
was thinking it would got distributed I

2303
01:47:25,619 --> 01:47:27,420
don't know if it did we also asked a

2304
01:47:27,420 --> 01:47:29,360
requests

2305
01:47:29,360 --> 01:47:31,980
all the way through I did submit it to

2306
01:47:31,980 --> 01:47:34,199
the mayor and it was not it did not make

2307
01:47:34,199 --> 01:47:35,699
it into this budget

2308
01:47:35,699 --> 01:47:37,260
uh it was you know because he went with

2309
01:47:37,260 --> 01:47:40,619
four percent management price so uh but

2310
01:47:40,619 --> 01:47:42,600
that's why I put it into the council to

2311
01:47:42,600 --> 01:47:45,719
say I I put a request in for a hundred

2312
01:47:45,719 --> 01:47:47,460
and forty thousand

2313
01:47:47,460 --> 01:47:50,219
um the number is in line with the

2314
01:47:50,219 --> 01:47:53,040
promotion uh the raise that uh Andrew

2315
01:47:53,040 --> 01:47:55,139
received last year which was

2316
01:47:55,139 --> 01:47:57,960
approximately 24 and it's also in line

2317
01:47:57,960 --> 01:47:59,699
with the information that I disseminated

2318
01:47:59,699 --> 01:48:03,239
about engineers in the area

2319
01:48:03,239 --> 01:48:05,820
um city of Saratoga engineer which is

2320
01:48:05,820 --> 01:48:08,460
half of the city Side here and half of

2321
01:48:08,460 --> 01:48:11,400
the budget they're in the budget for 148

2322
01:48:11,400 --> 01:48:15,780
500 pound of michiguna their Engineers

2323
01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:20,100
145 000 in the town of Glenville which

2324
01:48:20,100 --> 01:48:24,540
recently posted is 120 which is 5 000

2325
01:48:24,540 --> 01:48:27,300
more than on that so

2326
01:48:27,300 --> 01:48:29,520
um this is not once again it's a similar

2327
01:48:29,520 --> 01:48:31,440
discussion that Anthony made and that

2328
01:48:31,440 --> 01:48:34,500
we've had is uh you know I am going to

2329
01:48:34,500 --> 01:48:37,980
advocate for myself I believe that I am

2330
01:48:37,980 --> 01:48:40,980
the top Municipal engineer in the area I

2331
01:48:40,980 --> 01:48:43,500
don't think that there is a doubt about

2332
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:45,780
it by bringing the work I get the work

2333
01:48:45,780 --> 01:48:47,100
done

2334
01:48:47,100 --> 01:48:50,760
um I have an extremely impressive logo

2335
01:48:50,760 --> 01:48:53,280
of contacts um you know of what we can

2336
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:54,960
get done I've never not delivered on a

2337
01:48:54,960 --> 01:48:58,199
project and so I look around at peers

2338
01:48:58,199 --> 01:49:01,260
who do less in smaller communities with

2339
01:49:01,260 --> 01:49:03,360
more staff

2340
01:49:03,360 --> 01:49:05,940
I have to say that you know

2341
01:49:05,940 --> 01:49:08,280
this is this is my career you know what

2342
01:49:08,280 --> 01:49:10,080
I mean this is not something that I take

2343
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,239
lightly go to school I submitted my

2344
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:15,179
resume uh with that you know I went to

2345
01:49:15,179 --> 01:49:16,800
school for six years got an MBA from

2346
01:49:16,800 --> 01:49:20,639
Union and I enjoy this but also

2347
01:49:20,639 --> 01:49:22,199
you know this is a career this is

2348
01:49:22,199 --> 01:49:24,000
something that you do in your trash bag

2349
01:49:24,000 --> 01:49:25,739
would be the best at your career so

2350
01:49:25,739 --> 01:49:27,719
that's where that's why I put it in

2351
01:49:27,719 --> 01:49:28,800
there you know this is not the first

2352
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:30,780
time I've requested it but this is the

2353
01:49:30,780 --> 01:49:32,400
first time that I have

2354
01:49:32,400 --> 01:49:35,760
reflected after the mayor has cut it

2355
01:49:35,760 --> 01:49:37,980
because it's just you know there were

2356
01:49:37,980 --> 01:49:40,139
other extenuating circumstances this

2357
01:49:40,139 --> 01:49:42,000
year that made me want to push a little

2358
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,500
harder

2359
01:49:43,500 --> 01:49:46,199
um some are aware of some are not and uh

2360
01:49:46,199 --> 01:49:48,119
I was told my value was here at the city

2361
01:49:48,119 --> 01:49:50,880
so I'm asking the counselor to tell me

2362
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,100
what my value is and you know you can

2363
01:49:53,100 --> 01:49:55,440
tell me it's valuable but like anything

2364
01:49:55,440 --> 01:49:57,179
else you know

2365
01:49:57,179 --> 01:49:58,619
Sports

2366
01:49:58,619 --> 01:50:00,659
private business and all that your value

2367
01:50:00,659 --> 01:50:05,870
is most times a number

2368
01:50:05,880 --> 01:50:07,380
any additional question on this section

2369
01:50:07,380 --> 01:50:09,179
before we move into engineering

2370
01:50:09,179 --> 01:50:11,820
Construction and design

2371
01:50:11,820 --> 01:50:13,030
so

2372
01:50:13,030 --> 01:50:17,090
[Music]

2373
01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:19,320
on that I'm sorry I have my notes I

2374
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,699
don't have that budget but it should be

2375
01:50:20,699 --> 01:50:22,080
very similar

2376
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:23,940
um so we have one of the things we did

2377
01:50:23,940 --> 01:50:26,820
do is we moved some position

2378
01:50:26,820 --> 01:50:29,040
uh into here from I believe the water

2379
01:50:29,040 --> 01:50:31,560
department Anthony right what we did yep

2380
01:50:31,560 --> 01:50:33,659
so you know there is an additional

2381
01:50:33,659 --> 01:50:36,239
position uh the assistant's civil yeah

2382
01:50:36,239 --> 01:50:38,040
um so that's in there

2383
01:50:38,040 --> 01:50:40,139
um and then we have our assistant to the

2384
01:50:40,139 --> 01:50:43,260
city engineer that's Gary uh Junior

2385
01:50:43,260 --> 01:50:45,659
engineer and then we have the arpa

2386
01:50:45,659 --> 01:50:47,159
assistant to the civil and then the

2387
01:50:47,159 --> 01:50:51,420
civil engineer so you know we have we

2388
01:50:51,420 --> 01:50:52,800
have salary

2389
01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:54,840
um and we're trying to figure out the

2390
01:50:54,840 --> 01:50:56,280
best way to build people with that

2391
01:50:56,280 --> 01:50:57,420
salary

2392
01:50:57,420 --> 01:51:00,179
the assistant civil engineer is that a

2393
01:51:00,179 --> 01:51:04,860
0.5 or 1 32 000.

2394
01:51:04,860 --> 01:51:07,679
the assistant civil engineer that one

2395
01:51:07,679 --> 01:51:10,260
person it's one person but it's part

2396
01:51:10,260 --> 01:51:12,659
time that's the person that works four

2397
01:51:12,659 --> 01:51:15,239
to four to twenty hours oh okay but

2398
01:51:15,239 --> 01:51:16,800
they're working part-time in your office

2399
01:51:16,800 --> 01:51:19,739
in my office okay they are they are not

2400
01:51:19,739 --> 01:51:42,290
a consultant they're a part-time yeah

2401
01:51:42,300 --> 01:51:45,950
any other questions

2402
01:51:45,960 --> 01:51:47,760
um the salary for your position

2403
01:51:47,760 --> 01:51:50,100
is just in your it's just what we're

2404
01:51:50,100 --> 01:51:52,020
seeing on in your department it's not

2405
01:51:52,020 --> 01:51:56,699
spread out into any other department no that's just the junior or whatever I

2406
01:51:56,699 --> 01:51:58,679
noticed from some of them but

2407
01:51:58,679 --> 01:52:01,320
um historically there is a I'm not

2408
01:52:01,320 --> 01:52:03,739
mistaken

2409
01:52:03,739 --> 01:52:08,950
you mentioned

2410
01:52:08,960 --> 01:52:14,649
because of your beautiful scene

2411
01:52:14,659 --> 01:52:16,920
and then and then the idea what it was

2412
01:52:16,920 --> 01:52:19,679
if the golf course were to

2413
01:52:19,679 --> 01:52:22,320
go for my management the stipend goes

2414
01:52:22,320 --> 01:52:25,500
with it because that's it is it is

2415
01:52:25,500 --> 01:52:27,060
working you see what we do with the golf

2416
01:52:27,060 --> 01:52:28,739
course and how it works I'm not saying

2417
01:52:28,739 --> 01:52:31,080
that I can't handle it it's you know we

2418
01:52:31,080 --> 01:52:33,060
have a good thing going but that it's

2419
01:52:33,060 --> 01:52:34,739
not something that I'm personally going

2420
01:52:34,739 --> 01:52:38,460
to hang on to if the work goes away but so the stipend is attached directly

2421
01:52:38,460 --> 01:52:41,520
to that word okay yeah

2422
01:52:41,520 --> 01:52:44,340
any other question Chris

2423
01:52:44,340 --> 01:52:46,080
thank you

2424
01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:48,000
fees for service you just want to

2425
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:52,199
address it for you know sure yeah

2426
01:52:52,199 --> 01:52:54,300
um yeah we have fees for service line

2427
01:52:54,300 --> 01:52:56,460
because you don't have my notes uh that

2428
01:52:56,460 --> 01:52:57,780
is what we do use for professional

2429
01:52:57,780 --> 01:52:59,699
service fees the smaller ones if we have

2430
01:52:59,699 --> 01:53:02,340
a need for Engineering Services I also

2431
01:53:02,340 --> 01:53:04,860
have arcgis license that we do as a

2432
01:53:04,860 --> 01:53:06,900
share so all the Departments contribute

2433
01:53:06,900 --> 01:53:09,960
to arcgis which is our JS program then

2434
01:53:09,960 --> 01:53:12,300
we have AutoCAD civil 3D we have one

2435
01:53:12,300 --> 01:53:14,159
license for that it's necessary just to

2436
01:53:14,159 --> 01:53:17,159
be able to view uh and create files we

2437
01:53:17,159 --> 01:53:20,219
also have a trimble program and we pay

2438
01:53:20,219 --> 01:53:24,600
uh the cdtc uh uh a fee right now

2439
01:53:24,600 --> 01:53:26,699
because they're helping us with some

2440
01:53:26,699 --> 01:53:28,679
Road software to do a better evaluation

2441
01:53:28,679 --> 01:53:30,239
of our work

2442
01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:33,540
so we've got to see what went out it the

2443
01:53:33,540 --> 01:53:35,040
use of it can go up and down depending

2444
01:53:35,040 --> 01:53:38,100
on what we have or whatnot

2445
01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:42,470
but I heard

2446
01:53:42,480 --> 01:53:44,699
yeah the architecture of those ai's

2447
01:53:44,699 --> 01:53:46,920
documentation every everything I have is

2448
01:53:46,920 --> 01:53:49,380
through an AIA are you paying the fees

2449
01:53:49,380 --> 01:53:52,619
to use that to use the program no um

2450
01:53:52,619 --> 01:53:55,440
that's why we have an attorney

2451
01:53:55,440 --> 01:53:59,639
okay so uh I'll try to clarify yeah the

2452
01:53:59,639 --> 01:54:01,739
city does not have to my knowledge we do

2453
01:54:01,739 --> 01:54:04,860
not have a license for AIA documents and

2454
01:54:04,860 --> 01:54:06,900
because of that when I made my term

2455
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:09,659
agreements we hired an attorney who does

2456
01:54:09,659 --> 01:54:11,880
have AIA permission to create the

2457
01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:13,920
documents now if we're dealing with a

2458
01:54:13,920 --> 01:54:17,100
contractor yes they Supply them and they

2459
01:54:17,100 --> 01:54:20,460
have the AIA and we review them

2460
01:54:20,460 --> 01:54:22,980
so I'm not I don't have an AIA contract

2461
01:54:22,980 --> 01:54:24,239
because that would be that'd be another

2462
01:54:24,239 --> 01:54:26,340
feat yeah I have another fee so I didn't

2463
01:54:26,340 --> 01:54:27,239
hear you mentioned that but I know

2464
01:54:27,239 --> 01:54:29,400
that's something that we yeah so Ron was

2465
01:54:29,400 --> 01:54:31,199
talking about new reviews AI news is

2466
01:54:31,199 --> 01:54:33,659
he's reviewing third party contractors

2467
01:54:33,659 --> 01:54:35,880
who submit it in paper form and then he

2468
01:54:35,880 --> 01:54:37,920
goes so our contract are coming through

2469
01:54:37,920 --> 01:54:40,560
the attorney's office I have my own

2470
01:54:40,560 --> 01:54:42,420
Attorney office okay that's how

2471
01:54:42,420 --> 01:54:45,780
independent I am is I yeah

2472
01:54:45,780 --> 01:54:49,860
all right any other questions for Chris

2473
01:54:49,860 --> 01:54:52,080
saying that first thank you thank you

2474
01:54:52,080 --> 01:54:54,239
for all of what you're doing in your

2475
01:54:54,239 --> 01:55:08,290
office

2476
01:55:08,300 --> 01:55:16,070
thanks guys thank you thank you

2477
01:55:16,080 --> 01:55:26,630
yes

2478
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:39,430
[Music]

2479
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,940
we did the facilities portion already

2480
01:55:41,940 --> 01:55:48,470
yeah we did we just have to do parties

2481
01:55:48,480 --> 01:55:51,600
I put these down uh just just to let

2482
01:55:51,600 --> 01:55:53,520
people know what you know what we plan

2483
01:55:53,520 --> 01:55:55,139
to do these capital projects even though

2484
01:55:55,139 --> 01:55:57,060
we're playing through our I thought you

2485
01:55:57,060 --> 01:55:58,199
know just

2486
01:55:58,199 --> 01:56:00,000
even in the future so you can go back

2487
01:56:00,000 --> 01:56:01,380
and look to see

2488
01:56:01,380 --> 01:56:03,719
you know what what uh what we plan to

2489
01:56:03,719 --> 01:56:06,179
have projects get done so

2490
01:56:06,179 --> 01:56:09,239
yeah uh I mean this year

2491
01:56:09,239 --> 01:56:11,580
um engineering side capital is really

2492
01:56:11,580 --> 01:56:14,100
fun to focus around Harper

2493
01:56:14,100 --> 01:56:15,960
one of the things I guess I'll tell you

2494
01:56:15,960 --> 01:56:18,420
about this little back of house is that

2495
01:56:18,420 --> 01:56:21,480
previously you used to see things if you

2496
01:56:21,480 --> 01:56:24,360
were here seven eight years ago I would

2497
01:56:24,360 --> 01:56:26,580
request bonding money for projects like

2498
01:56:26,580 --> 01:56:29,280
Erie Boulevard or Paving Project

2499
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:32,100
Specific federal aid projects and we

2500
01:56:32,100 --> 01:56:35,100
will put that in here but because of the

2501
01:56:35,100 --> 01:56:38,100
larger allocation of chips funding yeah

2502
01:56:38,100 --> 01:56:40,139
we have some of the money to cover our

2503
01:56:40,139 --> 01:56:42,360
shares with ships pretty adequately so

2504
01:56:42,360 --> 01:56:44,880
instead of bonding additional money and

2505
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,560
reducing our bonding capacity Anthony

2506
01:56:46,560 --> 01:56:48,659
and I talked about we're going to use

2507
01:56:48,659 --> 01:56:50,280
the chips money that the state gives us

2508
01:56:50,280 --> 01:56:52,560
because it is 100 eligible to be used

2509
01:56:52,560 --> 01:56:54,420
and it's literally just you take this

2510
01:56:54,420 --> 01:56:56,219
money we put it over here and it helps

2511
01:56:56,219 --> 01:56:57,780
us and it's a lot easier you don't have

2512
01:56:57,780 --> 01:56:59,400
to go through can you go to buy this

2513
01:56:59,400 --> 01:57:01,619
money right we're not borrowing money so

2514
01:57:01,619 --> 01:57:03,360
not I mean I can go through these

2515
01:57:03,360 --> 01:57:04,800
projects but these are all the arpa

2516
01:57:04,800 --> 01:57:06,300
funded projects

2517
01:57:06,300 --> 01:57:08,280
um a diamond lighting General site

2518
01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,500
improvements for Central Park the the

2519
01:57:10,500 --> 01:57:12,840
pool in the bath house tennis courts

2520
01:57:12,840 --> 01:57:16,020
Hillhurst Park uh over Fairview I wanted

2521
01:57:16,020 --> 01:57:17,960
to make that happen uh the cool

2522
01:57:17,960 --> 01:57:20,880
Riverside courts and Jerry Burrell Park

2523
01:57:20,880 --> 01:57:23,699
improvements so those are all a lot of

2524
01:57:23,699 --> 01:57:25,560
them are actually started in the design

2525
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,060
already because we kind of had a head

2526
01:57:27,060 --> 01:57:28,860
start running when we made the

2527
01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:30,540
applications

2528
01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:32,760
um so I'm pretty comfortable with all

2529
01:57:32,760 --> 01:57:34,980
those and then the street Improvement

2530
01:57:34,980 --> 01:57:38,460
program 1.5 that is used to supplement

2531
01:57:38,460 --> 01:57:40,500
our Paving program and things that are

2532
01:57:40,500 --> 01:57:43,619
not chips eligible so 95 of the things

2533
01:57:43,619 --> 01:57:45,900
that we do are chips eligible and five

2534
01:57:45,900 --> 01:57:48,480
percent aren't and we try to make sure

2535
01:57:48,480 --> 01:57:50,460
that we always have some money to do

2536
01:57:50,460 --> 01:57:52,980
that five percent so for example if

2537
01:57:52,980 --> 01:57:55,080
there is a road or park that needs to be

2538
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:57,360
paid if there's some Paving around the

2539
01:57:57,360 --> 01:57:59,099
golf course or a parking lot or

2540
01:57:59,099 --> 01:58:00,840
something that we own that's not

2541
01:58:00,840 --> 01:58:03,480
necessarily a state recognized road we

2542
01:58:03,480 --> 01:58:04,980
need to make sure that we have funding

2543
01:58:04,980 --> 01:58:07,560
to be able improve his payment so we

2544
01:58:07,560 --> 01:58:10,020
always make sure we have Improvement

2545
01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:14,460
money in our coffers and that's what we

2546
01:58:14,460 --> 01:58:16,739
do that okay any questions go ahead

2547
01:58:16,739 --> 01:58:19,320
please so if we were to try to add the

2548
01:58:19,320 --> 01:58:21,480
skateboard park in

2549
01:58:21,480 --> 01:58:25,440
um so I I want to ask because I know I

2550
01:58:25,440 --> 01:58:27,239
saw the bid

2551
01:58:27,239 --> 01:58:30,239
um was 1 million plus the 250 000 for

2552
01:58:30,239 --> 01:58:35,400
the um this uh the lights in the street

2553
01:58:35,400 --> 01:58:37,800
um if we go to 890.

2554
01:58:37,800 --> 01:58:39,599
but if we were to try to stay at

2555
01:58:39,599 --> 01:58:41,760
Riverside and I know this is a whole

2556
01:58:41,760 --> 01:58:43,860
long thing but

2557
01:58:43,860 --> 01:58:45,360
do you think we could do something at

2558
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,639
Riverside for the 250 and not do those

2559
01:58:47,639 --> 01:58:49,560
courts or

2560
01:58:49,560 --> 01:58:50,940
um one of the things that I submitted

2561
01:58:50,940 --> 01:58:52,500
which I don't think you got a chance to

2562
01:58:52,500 --> 01:58:55,920
see was the 1.25 million for the park

2563
01:58:55,920 --> 01:58:58,980
uh underneath 8.90.

2564
01:58:58,980 --> 01:59:01,020
um so I just wanted to get your thoughts

2565
01:59:01,020 --> 01:59:02,460
on that yeah

2566
01:59:02,460 --> 01:59:04,679
um I think if we're going to do a skate

2567
01:59:04,679 --> 01:59:07,380
park you should definitely allocate

2568
01:59:07,380 --> 01:59:09,719
separate money for a skate park and I

2569
01:59:09,719 --> 01:59:12,060
would think in excess of 500 000 all day

2570
01:59:12,060 --> 01:59:15,239
just going off of it's very similar to

2571
01:59:15,239 --> 01:59:16,920
the issue that we ran into the golf

2572
01:59:16,920 --> 01:59:20,940
course in 2008 I know you guys Wonder so

2573
01:59:20,940 --> 01:59:23,219
what happened with golf courses we get

2574
01:59:23,219 --> 01:59:25,199
caught in this and it's not even a catch

2575
01:59:25,199 --> 01:59:27,179
22 is what it is your Aqua shoot right

2576
01:59:27,179 --> 01:59:29,340
is that Golf Course contractors they

2577
01:59:29,340 --> 01:59:31,260
travel the nation and they build

2578
01:59:31,260 --> 01:59:33,900
beautiful golf courses and they have and

2579
01:59:33,900 --> 01:59:35,699
if they're built into Pinehurst which is

2580
01:59:35,699 --> 01:59:37,320
a private club right and they got it

2581
01:59:37,320 --> 01:59:38,580
they go and this is what we're going to

2582
01:59:38,580 --> 01:59:40,380
do when they do it you come to New York

2583
01:59:40,380 --> 01:59:42,540
and and very similar to what Mike was

2584
01:59:42,540 --> 01:59:44,699
saying from Happy electric right now

2585
01:59:44,699 --> 01:59:47,580
we're bonds prevailing wage do you have

2586
01:59:47,580 --> 01:59:49,020
a certified payroll do you have

2587
01:59:49,020 --> 01:59:50,400
apprenticeship program what do you mean

2588
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:51,960
and all of a sudden they're like we're

2589
01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:53,460
just a contractor out of North Carolina

2590
01:59:53,460 --> 01:59:56,880
we are talking about and our costs go

2591
01:59:56,880 --> 01:59:59,520
through the roof so similarly with these

2592
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,560
skateboarder Parts you know they were

2593
02:00:01,560 --> 02:00:03,360
showing me private parts and parks and

2594
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:05,280
other states and he says all the New

2595
02:00:05,280 --> 02:00:08,699
York cost is 95 a square foot

2596
02:00:08,699 --> 02:00:10,739
and the skateboarders are using four

2597
02:00:10,739 --> 02:00:12,719
tennis courts if we wanted to replace it

2598
02:00:12,719 --> 02:00:13,860
I'm not saying this is what you're doing

2599
02:00:13,860 --> 02:00:16,020
right but if we wanted to replace

2600
02:00:16,020 --> 02:00:18,420
an exact four tennis courts with all the

2601
02:00:18,420 --> 02:00:22,139
amenities and all that 95 it's 1.8

2602
02:00:22,139 --> 02:00:24,239
million dollars

2603
02:00:24,239 --> 02:00:27,119
and so what we're looking at is these

2604
02:00:27,119 --> 02:00:28,139
guys

2605
02:00:28,139 --> 02:00:29,760
if we just we just took the whole

2606
02:00:29,760 --> 02:00:31,860
Riverside complex out and put an equal

2607
02:00:31,860 --> 02:00:34,260
sized concrete with the ramps and all

2608
02:00:34,260 --> 02:00:36,239
that yep you're over you're over 1.5

2609
02:00:36,239 --> 02:00:38,099
million all day with that because of the

2610
02:00:38,099 --> 02:00:41,219
size of it and so what what we're saying

2611
02:00:41,219 --> 02:00:42,900
is these guys have been really nice to

2612
02:00:42,900 --> 02:00:44,340
work with and they're not looking for

2613
02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:47,580
pools and crazy Rams right so I think

2614
02:00:47,580 --> 02:00:49,500
that we'll be able to get more they just

2615
02:00:49,500 --> 02:00:51,179
want space to maybe want to set up some

2616
02:00:51,179 --> 02:00:53,159
things but at the end of the day my

2617
02:00:53,159 --> 02:00:55,199
opinion is is that we can't let them

2618
02:00:55,199 --> 02:00:57,179
build things there this is the city park

2619
02:00:57,179 --> 02:01:00,119
we can't make this DIY right you know it

2620
02:01:00,119 --> 02:01:02,760
has to be designed and built and don't

2621
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:04,679
touch it and if they do touch it you get

2622
02:01:04,679 --> 02:01:06,300
your wrists laughed about it don't touch

2623
02:01:06,300 --> 02:01:09,000
it again you know because it's ours it's

2624
02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:10,199
going to be ours we wouldn't allow

2625
02:01:10,199 --> 02:01:11,820
someone to build their own swing set or

2626
02:01:11,820 --> 02:01:13,679
slide right you wouldn't be able to do

2627
02:01:13,679 --> 02:01:16,860
that in a city park so what now what I'm

2628
02:01:16,860 --> 02:01:18,540
getting that long story with this is

2629
02:01:18,540 --> 02:01:19,920
that with this one the street

2630
02:01:19,920 --> 02:01:22,500
Improvement month the things that aren't

2631
02:01:22,500 --> 02:01:25,980
included so if you put a skatepark right

2632
02:01:25,980 --> 02:01:28,080
in the middle apartment a big concrete

2633
02:01:28,080 --> 02:01:29,940
block right you go okay well now how do

2634
02:01:29,940 --> 02:01:31,500
you get to it how do you light it where

2635
02:01:31,500 --> 02:01:33,780
do you park

2636
02:01:33,780 --> 02:01:36,719
I'm 99 sure we could use our bonded

2637
02:01:36,719 --> 02:01:39,480
money to get you there to park there to

2638
02:01:39,480 --> 02:01:41,820
light it because that is all Improvement

2639
02:01:41,820 --> 02:01:44,099
it's asphalt that City owned that sort

2640
02:01:44,099 --> 02:01:45,239
but

2641
02:01:45,239 --> 02:01:47,699
that's how I was saying is that if as

2642
02:01:47,699 --> 02:01:49,860
long as we can get the perimeter and the

2643
02:01:49,860 --> 02:01:52,860
skate park done with money allocated for

2644
02:01:52,860 --> 02:01:56,159
the skate park I would use this bonded

2645
02:01:56,159 --> 02:01:57,659
type money because you can't use chips

2646
02:01:57,659 --> 02:02:00,480
you can't maybe you would use cdpg but I

2647
02:02:00,480 --> 02:02:02,880
don't know if you want to and and put

2648
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:04,440
that around there so that's why it was

2649
02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,139
under 890 I would do all that work to

2650
02:02:07,139 --> 02:02:09,060
get to the park and then build the park

2651
02:02:09,060 --> 02:02:12,179
with the Harpo or the pond mm-hmm okay

2652
02:02:12,179 --> 02:02:13,980
is that Anthony is that what you

2653
02:02:13,980 --> 02:02:15,599
wouldn't see it right yeah that's what

2654
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:18,169
we've talked about

2655
02:02:18,179 --> 02:02:19,440
but it's gonna

2656
02:02:19,440 --> 02:02:21,300
everything's expensive I mean Paul tried

2657
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:22,800
to get a quote on replacing a concrete

2658
02:02:22,800 --> 02:02:24,719
staircase and it was over half a million

2659
02:02:24,719 --> 02:02:27,000
dollars that was the staircase you know

2660
02:02:27,000 --> 02:02:29,099
this is a pretty elaborate thing and I

2661
02:02:29,099 --> 02:02:30,840
know that we wanted to be representative

2662
02:02:30,840 --> 02:02:32,400
of where we are as a city at this point

2663
02:02:32,400 --> 02:02:34,260
so we want it to be nice and these guys

2664
02:02:34,260 --> 02:02:35,520
are great

2665
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:38,460
we seem to have a following but the

2666
02:02:38,460 --> 02:02:40,380
number one problem we have at the city

2667
02:02:40,380 --> 02:02:42,560
it's the number one product is we

2668
02:02:42,560 --> 02:02:44,940
shoestring budgets and then we don't

2669
02:02:44,940 --> 02:02:46,619
know how to get it done

2670
02:02:46,619 --> 02:02:48,719
you know we said well is it a one

2671
02:02:48,719 --> 02:02:50,099
million dollar project how can you do

2672
02:02:50,099 --> 02:02:51,480
one million and then it's a 1.5 million

2673
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:52,980
dollar project and we're scrambling

2674
02:02:52,980 --> 02:02:54,360
we're having that issue with Jerry

2675
02:02:54,360 --> 02:02:56,099
Barrel Park you know where our

2676
02:02:56,099 --> 02:02:58,199
you want to get Jerry rail Park done you

2677
02:02:58,199 --> 02:02:59,639
know when the bids come in high and now

2678
02:02:59,639 --> 02:03:01,199
we're trying to figure out how do we get

2679
02:03:01,199 --> 02:03:03,239
it done it's it's

2680
02:03:03,239 --> 02:03:05,580
very complicated thing to do is try to

2681
02:03:05,580 --> 02:03:07,080
get all these projects done we're

2682
02:03:07,080 --> 02:03:08,639
fortunate that the street projects

2683
02:03:08,639 --> 02:03:10,080
usually don't know but

2684
02:03:10,080 --> 02:03:12,300
not every project is a Road apartment so

2685
02:03:12,300 --> 02:03:14,179
Chris is going to be talking about this

2686
02:03:14,179 --> 02:03:17,460
uh I already had any composition uh what

2687
02:03:17,460 --> 02:03:18,960
kind of composition to run this in terms

2688
02:03:18,960 --> 02:03:24,129
of liability

2689
02:03:24,139 --> 02:03:27,320
I mean

2690
02:03:27,320 --> 02:03:29,880
from my perspective because I want to

2691
02:03:29,880 --> 02:03:30,960
say I'm a little bit of a realist with

2692
02:03:30,960 --> 02:03:31,860
it is that

2693
02:03:31,860 --> 02:03:33,420
a lot of City that's in a lot of

2694
02:03:33,420 --> 02:03:35,460
skateboards so there has to be something

2695
02:03:35,460 --> 02:03:37,020
with it but I do know that I spoke with

2696
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:38,940
the mayor and I don't want to speak for

2697
02:03:38,940 --> 02:03:40,199
him but I think Anthony you might be

2698
02:03:40,199 --> 02:03:41,940
talking about this he did mention

2699
02:03:41,940 --> 02:03:44,400
something to me about when our insurance

2700
02:03:44,400 --> 02:03:46,619
does get reviewed the skate park

2701
02:03:46,619 --> 02:03:49,800
editions would get factored in like

2702
02:03:49,800 --> 02:03:52,739
there is a possibility that our

2703
02:03:52,739 --> 02:03:54,659
insurance carrier will say okay now you

2704
02:03:54,659 --> 02:03:58,800
have a skate park and we go up yeah that

2705
02:03:58,800 --> 02:04:00,480
he did mention that to me but I'm

2706
02:04:00,480 --> 02:04:02,280
getting but I've been to Lake George

2707
02:04:02,280 --> 02:04:05,099
Saratoga Albany has two Troys looking to

2708
02:04:05,099 --> 02:04:07,440
build one so I don't think that we can

2709
02:04:07,440 --> 02:04:09,719
sit and say whoa liability because

2710
02:04:09,719 --> 02:04:11,940
people go in New York City that's 30.

2711
02:04:11,940 --> 02:04:14,040
yeah no I'm not saying that we don't

2712
02:04:14,040 --> 02:04:15,239
build it we build it but we need to

2713
02:04:15,239 --> 02:04:16,679
address the liability you know what I'm

2714
02:04:16,679 --> 02:04:18,119
about to take responsibility for the

2715
02:04:18,119 --> 02:04:20,940
liability it's of the organization and

2716
02:04:20,940 --> 02:04:22,860
so the people who are using it or is the

2717
02:04:22,860 --> 02:04:32,470
city

2718
02:04:32,480 --> 02:04:34,679
I think that's what I believe that's

2719
02:04:34,679 --> 02:04:42,890
what Andrew is you know is is

2720
02:04:42,900 --> 02:04:45,179
but those are yeah that's so not a ton

2721
02:04:45,179 --> 02:04:46,199
of

2722
02:04:46,199 --> 02:04:51,420
Apple but a lot of projects so we'll see you know once again all these

2723
02:04:51,420 --> 02:04:52,860
projects can take so long to design that

2724
02:04:52,860 --> 02:04:53,820
next year

2725
02:04:53,820 --> 02:04:55,619
more Public Works

2726
02:04:55,619 --> 02:04:59,040
speak but right now it's a little bit of

2727
02:04:59,040 --> 02:05:00,300
a wall because now we're hitting this

2728
02:05:00,300 --> 02:05:04,609
big design ramp again

2729
02:05:04,619 --> 02:05:07,260
let's not add more to you if I am sure

2730
02:05:07,260 --> 02:05:10,020
we're going to have what two or three

2731
02:05:10,020 --> 02:05:11,880
more parts added to this

2732
02:05:11,880 --> 02:05:19,870
studying as well Park um

2733
02:05:19,880 --> 02:05:23,040
Woodland Park added to what you're

2734
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:44,890
seeing here right now

2735
02:05:44,900 --> 02:05:49,560
you know is tough for me to talk about

2736
02:05:49,560 --> 02:05:52,320
just me but I have to be my own agent I

2737
02:05:52,320 --> 02:05:54,659
would be dismissed to say that this

2738
02:05:54,659 --> 02:05:56,280
conversation should be had with a lot of

2739
02:05:56,280 --> 02:05:57,659
people

2740
02:05:57,659 --> 02:05:59,099
um you know there's a lot of people that

2741
02:05:59,099 --> 02:06:00,239
do a lot of good work I know Christian

2742
02:06:00,239 --> 02:06:02,340
mentioned Maurice you know he's doing a

2743
02:06:02,340 --> 02:06:04,320
really good job I know we have a lot of

2744
02:06:04,320 --> 02:06:06,960
good staff here and it's tough uh you

2745
02:06:06,960 --> 02:06:08,400
know we don't have a garden movement or

2746
02:06:08,400 --> 02:06:10,020
anything as managers you know John and I

2747
02:06:10,020 --> 02:06:12,599
and Anthony so you know what I have

2748
02:06:12,599 --> 02:06:15,719
always tried to do is my job to the best

2749
02:06:15,719 --> 02:06:18,000
I can so that you guys go you know what

2750
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:21,000
Chris gets it done you know and that's

2751
02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:22,500
how well we're doing it you know that's

2752
02:06:22,500 --> 02:06:24,360
what it is but I would be risk to say

2753
02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:25,739
that there's a lot of people that

2754
02:06:25,739 --> 02:06:27,420
probably could

2755
02:06:27,420 --> 02:06:29,820
deserve a bump too and I'm not I can't

2756
02:06:29,820 --> 02:06:31,500
speak for him but it's out there and if

2757
02:06:31,500 --> 02:06:32,639
I had people under me all my people

2758
02:06:32,639 --> 02:06:35,280
reunion and then Joe was retiring so I

2759
02:06:35,280 --> 02:06:36,840
don't have any of that situation but I

2760
02:06:36,840 --> 02:06:38,159
don't think I think people sometimes get

2761
02:06:38,159 --> 02:06:40,020
intimidated I've been here long enough

2762
02:06:40,020 --> 02:06:41,400
for us

2763
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:44,159
yeah price enough yeah so I just wanted

2764
02:06:44,159 --> 02:06:45,599
just to say that when you're looking at

2765
02:06:45,599 --> 02:06:47,639
things trustful

2766
02:06:47,639 --> 02:06:52,970
all right thanks guys thank you

2767
02:06:52,980 --> 02:06:55,040
yeah

2768
02:06:55,040 --> 02:06:58,280
don't you ready

2769
02:06:58,280 --> 02:07:00,320
11. Administration

2770
02:07:00,320 --> 02:07:22,609
[Music]

2771
02:07:22,619 --> 02:07:26,390
did John approve this

2772
02:07:26,400 --> 02:07:28,739
I'm not aware that's why I mentioned it

2773
02:07:28,739 --> 02:07:32,589
doesn't document

2774
02:07:32,599 --> 02:07:35,699
it's a good thing you are moving them in

2775
02:07:35,699 --> 02:07:37,280
a good direction

2776
02:07:37,280 --> 02:07:40,139
right they give people an indication on

2777
02:07:40,139 --> 02:07:43,530
what's going on

2778
02:07:43,540 --> 02:07:45,179
[Music]

2779
02:07:45,179 --> 02:07:48,540
okay yeah a lot of grip

2780
02:07:48,540 --> 02:07:50,400
but that's good we all love pictures

2781
02:07:50,400 --> 02:07:51,739
right

2782
02:07:51,739 --> 02:07:54,060
and I'm not going to talk as much as

2783
02:07:54,060 --> 02:07:58,729
Chris

2784
02:07:58,739 --> 02:08:01,440
Anthony can you just give us a snapshot

2785
02:08:01,440 --> 02:08:03,780
of utility Administration and then we'll

2786
02:08:03,780 --> 02:08:07,080
have John kind of walk us through what

2787
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:08,570
is going on there

2788
02:08:08,570 --> 02:08:11,420
[Music]

2789
02:08:11,420 --> 02:08:13,679
not only does he have the utilities

2790
02:08:13,679 --> 02:08:15,599
Administration he's also assigned

2791
02:08:15,599 --> 02:08:19,400
maintenance uh traffic utilities and

2792
02:08:19,400 --> 02:08:22,800
phones and I.T and

2793
02:08:22,800 --> 02:08:25,040
what am I missing Johnny

2794
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:27,920
yes go ahead

2795
02:08:27,920 --> 02:08:30,659
that's it you're talking about increase

2796
02:08:30,659 --> 02:08:34,040
you're talking about things come on

2797
02:08:34,040 --> 02:08:37,920
hey Toby utilities uh Administration

2798
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:43,739
that increases by 7.77 by 15 000 uh

2799
02:08:43,739 --> 02:08:45,659
total communication Central

2800
02:08:45,659 --> 02:08:52,980
Communications was up 30 000.

2801
02:08:52,990 --> 02:08:58,010
[Music]

2802
02:08:58,020 --> 02:09:01,679
and then again I said the sign language

2803
02:09:01,679 --> 02:09:04,020
total sign uh utility sign maintenance

2804
02:09:04,020 --> 02:09:06,080
is up to Audi 19

2805
02:09:06,080 --> 02:09:09,599
144 hours and uh your traffic is up

2806
02:09:09,599 --> 02:09:11,520
seventy thousand four twelve utilities

2807
02:09:11,520 --> 02:09:12,540
for that

2808
02:09:12,540 --> 02:09:15,900
and then Street lighting is uh up

2809
02:09:15,900 --> 02:09:17,760
I'll explain that to you too a million

2810
02:09:17,760 --> 02:09:19,380
two

2811
02:09:19,380 --> 02:09:21,060
I wanted to do that so that you don't

2812
02:09:21,060 --> 02:09:24,070
have to be in currency

2813
02:09:24,080 --> 02:09:26,340
all right so we'll do um utilities

2814
02:09:26,340 --> 02:09:29,400
Administration page 11.

2815
02:09:29,400 --> 02:09:38,089
uh

2816
02:09:38,099 --> 02:09:41,400
there is a salary bump for one of the

2817
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:45,599
employees on the 100 line

2818
02:09:45,599 --> 02:09:48,480
um going down I don't think there's can

2819
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:50,280
you can you explain the reason for the

2820
02:09:50,280 --> 02:09:52,560
pump I can so

2821
02:09:52,560 --> 02:09:53,719
um

2822
02:09:53,719 --> 02:09:56,940
yeah the principal billing account for

2823
02:09:56,940 --> 02:09:59,159
the VP Club has been here for a number

2824
02:09:59,159 --> 02:10:00,320
of years

2825
02:10:00,320 --> 02:10:04,739
has over uh time increased a lot of the

2826
02:10:04,739 --> 02:10:08,040
duties that she's been doing she's

2827
02:10:08,040 --> 02:10:12,179
this person is uh trains everyone on all

2828
02:10:12,179 --> 02:10:14,040
of the software that we use our unit

2829
02:10:14,040 --> 02:10:17,639
software our Unicity software she

2830
02:10:17,639 --> 02:10:19,159
creates all the

2831
02:10:19,159 --> 02:10:22,739
reports for us she uh does all of the

2832
02:10:22,739 --> 02:10:25,020
role-based access control to make sure

2833
02:10:25,020 --> 02:10:28,300
that we have a proper security

2834
02:10:28,300 --> 02:10:29,480
[Music]

2835
02:10:29,480 --> 02:10:33,840
which works well outside of her original

2836
02:10:33,840 --> 02:10:38,099
duties and it has over the last several

2837
02:10:38,099 --> 02:10:40,800
years actually been what I'll call 9 to

2838
02:10:40,800 --> 02:10:43,280
system if there was an assistant

2839
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:45,480
superintendent job

2840
02:10:45,480 --> 02:10:48,000
um this person would have

2841
02:10:48,000 --> 02:10:50,760
so I mean I've seen that um you take

2842
02:10:50,760 --> 02:10:54,060
that into consideration as a

2843
02:10:54,060 --> 02:10:56,460
over even anything that you would give

2844
02:10:56,460 --> 02:10:58,619
me because I believe that she

2845
02:10:58,619 --> 02:11:00,840
wholeheartedly deserves it for the work

2846
02:11:00,840 --> 02:11:03,179
that she's done I just want to add we're

2847
02:11:03,179 --> 02:11:05,639
about to go into a major uh upgrade in

2848
02:11:05,639 --> 02:11:09,599
our newness uh Citywide system where

2849
02:11:09,599 --> 02:11:11,820
she's going to be the leader of the as

2850
02:11:11,820 --> 02:11:14,639
she's been in the past a software

2851
02:11:14,639 --> 02:11:17,159
upgrades are uh

2852
02:11:17,159 --> 02:11:20,580
horrific as you will and uh we need

2853
02:11:20,580 --> 02:11:24,179
somebody at that home that can make that

2854
02:11:24,179 --> 02:11:29,510
as a minimal of an issue as possible

2855
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:32,219
I believe that's the only major uh

2856
02:11:32,219 --> 02:11:34,679
change you can look at this great

2857
02:11:34,679 --> 02:11:38,040
question on this how is this link to it

2858
02:11:38,040 --> 02:11:40,639
supporting you with Hardware software

2859
02:11:40,639 --> 02:11:44,040
you know otherwise just testing tea yes

2860
02:11:44,040 --> 02:11:45,659
because no no I'm not saying well how

2861
02:11:45,659 --> 02:11:48,119
does this link to it in terms of

2862
02:11:48,119 --> 02:11:50,119
supporting this individual

2863
02:11:50,119 --> 02:11:53,960
Society supporting this individual so

2864
02:11:53,960 --> 02:11:59,000
again it's been evolution of how we use

2865
02:11:59,000 --> 02:12:01,560
cross-training employees and get them to

2866
02:12:01,560 --> 02:12:04,400
work outside of their limited

2867
02:12:04,400 --> 02:12:07,980
responsibilities so you can look at that

2868
02:12:07,980 --> 02:12:10,800
I.T staff and say that I'm actually one

2869
02:12:10,800 --> 02:12:13,260
of them as well as this other employees

2870
02:12:13,260 --> 02:12:16,199
so we just have many more duties

2871
02:12:16,199 --> 02:12:18,659
including you know up and above that but

2872
02:12:18,659 --> 02:12:21,780
we're supplementing the I.T Department

2873
02:12:21,780 --> 02:12:23,099
she does a lot of software

2874
02:12:23,099 --> 02:12:24,260
specifications

2875
02:12:24,260 --> 02:12:25,920
the reason why I asked the question

2876
02:12:25,920 --> 02:12:39,430
because a title

2877
02:12:39,440 --> 02:12:43,560
and that person as well as I as well as

2878
02:12:43,560 --> 02:12:45,119
several people in the city you know

2879
02:12:45,119 --> 02:12:51,840
learn from the um bottom up and um have that in you

2880
02:12:51,840 --> 02:12:53,280
know Chris mentioned I don't want to

2881
02:12:53,280 --> 02:12:55,340
talk too much about this but

2882
02:12:55,340 --> 02:12:57,599
institutional knowledge

2883
02:12:57,599 --> 02:13:00,119
um that's where we exist right we have

2884
02:13:00,119 --> 02:13:02,520
so much of that institutional knowledge

2885
02:13:02,520 --> 02:13:05,340
that it's so much easier for us to sit

2886
02:13:05,340 --> 02:13:07,079
there and do some sort of upgrade or

2887
02:13:07,079 --> 02:13:09,480
change we know all the Departments we

2888
02:13:09,480 --> 02:13:11,940
know how the Departments function and um

2889
02:13:11,940 --> 02:13:13,920
to have us there to be able to do those

2890
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:16,199
upgrades uh are so much easier than

2891
02:13:16,199 --> 02:13:19,739
anyone else could so actually I I would

2892
02:13:19,739 --> 02:13:21,840
like to speak about that um because I

2893
02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:23,880
have a concern about that so I don't

2894
02:13:23,880 --> 02:13:25,260
know how this person is I don't know how

2895
02:13:25,260 --> 02:13:27,300
old you are but eventually people are

2896
02:13:27,300 --> 02:13:29,639
going retire and so I see you too is the

2897
02:13:29,639 --> 02:13:31,800
only admin staff so I was interested in

2898
02:13:31,800 --> 02:13:33,780
knowing what is does it look like in

2899
02:13:33,780 --> 02:13:35,280
terms of succession planning you talk

2900
02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:37,079
about all the things that she does even

2901
02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:39,300
more and more and the same with you yeah

2902
02:13:39,300 --> 02:13:40,860
so what does that look like in terms of

2903
02:13:40,860 --> 02:13:42,780
more adding more staff or considering

2904
02:13:42,780 --> 02:13:45,239
adding more staff so that people can now

2905
02:13:45,239 --> 02:13:47,460
learn the next five or six years however

2906
02:13:47,460 --> 02:13:49,260
long it's going to mentioned that before

2907
02:13:49,260 --> 02:13:52,850
and I appreciate your kids

2908
02:13:52,860 --> 02:13:55,139
[Music]

2909
02:13:55,139 --> 02:13:58,260
gym we have started to look at that and

2910
02:13:58,260 --> 02:14:00,719
one of the positions when we get to the

2911
02:14:00,719 --> 02:14:03,420
I.T position is that we have added

2912
02:14:03,420 --> 02:14:07,079
another PC support specialist that will

2913
02:14:07,079 --> 02:14:09,300
be able to supplement some of the

2914
02:14:09,300 --> 02:14:12,900
existing duties that our local area

2915
02:14:12,900 --> 02:14:16,340
network administrator is doing right now

2916
02:14:16,340 --> 02:14:19,199
as well as supplements some of the

2917
02:14:19,199 --> 02:14:21,260
police department needs

2918
02:14:21,260 --> 02:14:24,119
by being able to have that in third

2919
02:14:24,119 --> 02:14:27,179
person uh assisting in that department

2920
02:14:27,179 --> 02:14:30,000
then some of the things that I'm doing

2921
02:14:30,000 --> 02:14:32,900
and this other person in my

2922
02:14:32,900 --> 02:14:35,460
Administration doing we can start to

2923
02:14:35,460 --> 02:14:39,900
slop off some of that duties to uh

2924
02:14:39,900 --> 02:14:43,139
um you know reduce those types of issues

2925
02:14:43,139 --> 02:14:44,699
you know basically you're training too

2926
02:14:44,699 --> 02:14:46,440
at the same time right right you know

2927
02:14:46,440 --> 02:14:47,820
quite frankly

2928
02:14:47,820 --> 02:14:51,079
um I believe when I leave there'll be

2929
02:14:51,079 --> 02:14:55,079
multiple people that'll probably be

2930
02:14:55,079 --> 02:14:58,800
my duties will probably be split into a

2931
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:00,840
different number of people and I'm

2932
02:15:00,840 --> 02:15:03,719
saying that because I have such a very

2933
02:15:03,719 --> 02:15:08,460
uh repertoire of things that I do and I

2934
02:15:08,460 --> 02:15:10,500
don't see you finding someone that's

2935
02:15:10,500 --> 02:15:13,139
going to do all of them well so I think

2936
02:15:13,139 --> 02:15:14,940
you know we'll probably start splitting

2937
02:15:14,940 --> 02:15:16,679
them apart maybe something about here

2938
02:15:16,679 --> 02:15:18,840
something they'll go there a great many

2939
02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:22,920
of those duties will go to the it

2940
02:15:22,920 --> 02:15:26,940
um local area network administrator I

2941
02:15:26,940 --> 02:15:29,280
believe so we're trying to position him

2942
02:15:29,280 --> 02:15:32,579
to have more time available to do a lot

2943
02:15:32,579 --> 02:15:34,800
of the things that I'm doing so we are

2944
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:36,719
kind of working on that now yeah okay

2945
02:15:36,719 --> 02:15:38,579
you're right I do ask and I asked for

2946
02:15:38,579 --> 02:15:41,900
all the time the concern is still there

2947
02:15:41,900 --> 02:15:45,659
I force them to put an extra ID

2948
02:15:45,659 --> 02:15:47,440
okay and that's this new position

2949
02:15:47,440 --> 02:15:48,000
[Music]

2950
02:15:48,000 --> 02:15:48,599
um

2951
02:15:48,599 --> 02:15:52,079
help desk support specialist I.T it says

2952
02:15:52,079 --> 02:15:54,239
need enough it says it's starting a

2953
02:15:54,239 --> 02:15:57,060
succession planning yeah for Lisa and

2954
02:15:57,060 --> 02:16:00,960
John yes it does Dodge I forced it up

2955
02:16:00,960 --> 02:16:02,179
um

2956
02:16:02,179 --> 02:16:05,099
any other questions on this section

2957
02:16:05,099 --> 02:16:10,010
utilities Administration

2958
02:16:10,020 --> 02:16:11,140
um

2959
02:16:11,140 --> 02:16:18,430
[Music]

2960
02:16:18,440 --> 02:16:28,010
page 14. right to the bottom

2961
02:16:28,020 --> 02:16:31,139
I'm sure we have a oh that yeah so 30

2962
02:16:31,139 --> 02:16:33,660
000 uh increase from the previous year

2963
02:16:33,660 --> 02:16:37,019
but every two is every two years Josh

2964
02:16:37,019 --> 02:16:40,260
every two years there's uh every other

2965
02:16:40,260 --> 02:16:42,300
year we have to pay an additional what's

2966
02:16:42,300 --> 02:16:44,460
that called that it's done maintenance

2967
02:16:44,460 --> 02:16:46,920
for the whole new system by appointment

2968
02:16:46,920 --> 02:16:56,110
for two years

2969
02:16:56,120 --> 02:16:58,439
okay because I had a question there too

2970
02:16:58,439 --> 02:16:59,639
because I know maybe we bought some

2971
02:16:59,639 --> 02:17:01,800
equipment a couple years ago well I

2972
02:17:01,800 --> 02:17:04,019
think our phone system is right now I

2973
02:17:04,019 --> 02:17:06,660
think it's like 15 years old but it did

2974
02:17:06,660 --> 02:17:08,880
have been up by a couple years ago

2975
02:17:08,880 --> 02:17:13,270
reporting equipment no it's been a while

2976
02:17:13,280 --> 02:17:25,629
[Music]

2977
02:17:25,639 --> 02:17:32,870
that's the only item in that one

2978
02:17:32,880 --> 02:17:37,200
the next page is uh 15 Central data

2979
02:17:37,200 --> 02:17:38,880
processing I will show a lot of

2980
02:17:38,880 --> 02:17:41,040
processing

2981
02:17:41,040 --> 02:17:44,460
okay so in the central data processing

2982
02:17:44,460 --> 02:17:46,859
um this is our I.T

2983
02:17:46,859 --> 02:17:48,899
um or three people we have currently

2984
02:17:48,899 --> 02:17:51,780
three people in there uh we had the land

2985
02:17:51,780 --> 02:17:54,000
administrator and two help desk so we're

2986
02:17:54,000 --> 02:17:57,120
requesting a third as well

2987
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:57,920
um

2988
02:17:57,920 --> 02:18:00,679
let's see

2989
02:18:00,679 --> 02:18:03,240
fees for service that's one of our our

2990
02:18:03,240 --> 02:18:06,420
biggest codes it's 350 000 up from three

2991
02:18:06,420 --> 02:18:08,160
hundred and twenty thousand

2992
02:18:08,160 --> 02:18:11,219
um those are for our communist costs our

2993
02:18:11,219 --> 02:18:15,540
immunosity costs are Office 365 which

2994
02:18:15,540 --> 02:18:17,880
has been two years now I mean that's

2995
02:18:17,880 --> 02:18:20,939
certainly a large expense we can go

2996
02:18:20,939 --> 02:18:23,580
through uh if you want it's maintenance

2997
02:18:23,580 --> 02:18:26,300
for all of our

2998
02:18:26,300 --> 02:18:31,800
great deal of our city Network equipment

2999
02:18:31,800 --> 02:18:34,070
um

3000
02:18:34,080 --> 02:18:35,399
[Music]

3001
02:18:35,399 --> 02:18:38,700
so the Tyler Technologies alone uh were

3002
02:18:38,700 --> 02:18:41,160
estimating at uh roughly two hundred

3003
02:18:41,160 --> 02:18:43,679
thousand dollars for uh for next year so

3004
02:18:43,679 --> 02:18:45,599
that's a really large amount so if you

3005
02:18:45,599 --> 02:18:46,920
pull that out

3006
02:18:46,920 --> 02:18:50,820
um it's really uh not too many not too

3007
02:18:50,820 --> 02:18:53,760
much larger things are virus protection

3008
02:18:53,760 --> 02:18:57,300
uh this comes out of that one

3009
02:18:57,300 --> 02:18:59,519
um other than the fees for service yeah

3010
02:18:59,519 --> 02:19:03,479
okay our uh you guys have seen the know

3011
02:19:03,479 --> 02:19:07,280
before training for the fishing training

3012
02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:11,040
I've seen them many times

3013
02:19:11,040 --> 02:19:12,960
something which honestly I think is

3014
02:19:12,960 --> 02:19:15,359
really cool so we can ask me out of our

3015
02:19:15,359 --> 02:19:18,139
budget and it keeps educating our

3016
02:19:18,139 --> 02:19:21,899
employees because you know we we've been

3017
02:19:21,899 --> 02:19:24,300
so lucky that we have not been uh

3018
02:19:24,300 --> 02:19:27,120
touched and you know I'll never say that

3019
02:19:27,120 --> 02:19:29,820
we can't be touched because we can but

3020
02:19:29,820 --> 02:19:32,580
we're taking every kind of Step as we as

3021
02:19:32,580 --> 02:19:35,099
much as possible to reduce the potential

3022
02:19:35,099 --> 02:19:37,559
that that happens and by training our

3023
02:19:37,559 --> 02:19:39,479
employees on what to click and what not

3024
02:19:39,479 --> 02:19:41,700
to click um is certainly a big piece of

3025
02:19:41,700 --> 02:19:43,620
it

3026
02:19:43,620 --> 02:19:53,830
questions

3027
02:19:53,840 --> 02:19:56,520
Mr Clean showed that Wayne administrator

3028
02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:58,200
is that the secession planning you're

3029
02:19:58,200 --> 02:19:59,820
referencing earlier

3030
02:19:59,820 --> 02:20:01,520
welcome

3031
02:20:01,520 --> 02:20:04,200
training nor is it a different I'm sorry

3032
02:20:04,200 --> 02:20:07,260
the land administrators yeah so the land

3033
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:09,899
administrator is the position I

3034
02:20:09,899 --> 02:20:12,000
mentioned before that by adding that

3035
02:20:12,000 --> 02:20:15,300
additional help desk person it will free

3036
02:20:15,300 --> 02:20:18,359
up that administrator to learn some more

3037
02:20:18,359 --> 02:20:23,750
of my dream again thank you

3038
02:20:23,760 --> 02:20:27,010
questions

3039
02:20:27,020 --> 02:20:28,760
[Music]

3040
02:20:28,760 --> 02:20:31,160
one more

3041
02:20:31,160 --> 02:20:36,180
a couple more page 21.

3042
02:20:36,180 --> 02:20:41,469
utilities

3043
02:20:41,479 --> 02:20:42,620
so

3044
02:20:42,620 --> 02:20:43,080
[Music]

3045
02:20:43,080 --> 02:20:43,859
um

3046
02:20:43,859 --> 02:20:46,439
those of you that aren't aware of what

3047
02:20:46,439 --> 02:20:48,420
we do so the sign maintenance we

3048
02:20:48,420 --> 02:20:51,420
maintain all of the signage of

3049
02:20:51,420 --> 02:20:54,960
traffic signage uh all the temporary

3050
02:20:54,960 --> 02:20:58,680
postings we do we take the streets uh

3051
02:20:58,680 --> 02:21:02,160
we're doing a lot of painting of Street

3052
02:21:02,160 --> 02:21:03,960
lighting and things trying to Spruce

3053
02:21:03,960 --> 02:21:05,460
them up we've certainly done a lot of

3054
02:21:05,460 --> 02:21:09,300
that over the last couple of years so

3055
02:21:09,300 --> 02:21:11,100
those salaries come out of the

3056
02:21:11,100 --> 02:21:14,840
assignment in Phoenix the 3310

3057
02:21:14,840 --> 02:21:18,359
there are a couple of uh large upgrade

3058
02:21:18,359 --> 02:21:22,560
requests the 3310 450 in particular uh

3059
02:21:22,560 --> 02:21:25,500
we're going I'm asking to go from 35 000

3060
02:21:25,500 --> 02:21:27,720
up to 60 000.

3061
02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:28,439
um

3062
02:21:28,439 --> 02:21:30,600
just want to make sure that's the one I

3063
02:21:30,600 --> 02:21:35,870
want to talk about getting a moment

3064
02:21:35,880 --> 02:21:38,160
tell spark yeah I just want to make you

3065
02:21:38,160 --> 02:21:40,020
see where I pulled certain things from

3066
02:21:40,020 --> 02:21:43,020
so so I have two larger codes so

3067
02:21:43,020 --> 02:21:45,359
um obviously our costs had uh

3068
02:21:45,359 --> 02:21:47,520
skyrocketed in the last couple of years

3069
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:50,340
because of metal costs

3070
02:21:50,340 --> 02:21:52,500
um so those

3071
02:21:52,500 --> 02:22:09,050
um include our sign blanks are

3072
02:22:09,060 --> 02:22:11,640
yeah so there's two of them right so the

3073
02:22:11,640 --> 02:22:14,040
451 is where

3074
02:22:14,040 --> 02:22:16,680
um I'm looking to get additional LED

3075
02:22:16,680 --> 02:22:21,910
stop signs um

3076
02:22:21,920 --> 02:22:26,220
provide some dollars for that uh as well

3077
02:22:26,220 --> 02:22:30,540
as a good portion of the potential speed

3078
02:22:30,540 --> 02:22:33,540
limit signs that we're looking to do

3079
02:22:33,540 --> 02:22:35,819
so we're positioning ourselves for that

3080
02:22:35,819 --> 02:22:37,680
right okay

3081
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:39,780
well I don't ask for a lot of upgrade

3082
02:22:39,780 --> 02:22:42,600
through the up price increase cost

3083
02:22:42,600 --> 02:22:45,479
increases but um there is a limit and we

3084
02:22:45,479 --> 02:22:48,300
have to start uh budgeting

3085
02:22:48,300 --> 02:22:50,520
um properly based on

3086
02:22:50,520 --> 02:22:53,160
um the cost of items that we're getting

3087
02:22:53,160 --> 02:22:54,479
today

3088
02:22:54,479 --> 02:22:57,359
so that's why those two codes are going

3089
02:22:57,359 --> 02:23:01,560
up 33 10 450 and 451. once come one's

3090
02:23:01,560 --> 02:23:03,479
the speed limit signs are going to come

3091
02:23:03,479 --> 02:23:05,460
out of and um the other one the

3092
02:23:05,460 --> 02:23:09,660
additional LED stop signs as well as the

3093
02:23:09,660 --> 02:23:14,809
cost increases

3094
02:23:14,819 --> 02:23:17,460
questions

3095
02:23:17,460 --> 02:23:20,220
um so is that going to be adequate

3096
02:23:20,220 --> 02:23:21,540
um that is going to be adequate you

3097
02:23:21,540 --> 02:23:23,399
think in terms of what we need we might

3098
02:23:23,399 --> 02:23:25,500
need I always try to stay within my

3099
02:23:25,500 --> 02:23:27,540
budget especially on those codes you'll

3100
02:23:27,540 --> 02:23:30,060
never see me go over so we'll do what we

3101
02:23:30,060 --> 02:23:34,620
have to uh yeah get it done okay and then my

3102
02:23:34,620 --> 02:23:36,359
other question is um in terms of some of

3103
02:23:36,359 --> 02:23:37,859
the traffic studies that we might have

3104
02:23:37,859 --> 02:23:39,899
that we will have to do

3105
02:23:39,899 --> 02:23:43,500
um is that um is there a cost to that or

3106
02:23:43,500 --> 02:23:46,080
is it your time and that's so the

3107
02:23:46,080 --> 02:23:48,240
traffic studies and we kind of had that

3108
02:23:48,240 --> 02:23:49,740
discussion of one of the committee

3109
02:23:49,740 --> 02:23:52,800
meetings and then it went South right so

3110
02:23:52,800 --> 02:23:56,640
we do need to make some sort of

3111
02:23:56,640 --> 02:24:01,690
decision on that the traffic studies

3112
02:24:01,700 --> 02:24:05,040
to look at changing the speed limit

3113
02:24:05,040 --> 02:24:07,439
um I did have a discussion with Chris

3114
02:24:07,439 --> 02:24:10,920
about the potential that uh the cdtc

3115
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:14,700
um did have a a project that could

3116
02:24:14,700 --> 02:24:17,819
potentially do some traffic studies

3117
02:24:17,819 --> 02:24:20,399
um and we would look at that and see uh

3118
02:24:20,399 --> 02:24:24,660
if the cost was zero or a smaller amount

3119
02:24:24,660 --> 02:24:27,479
to do it through CTC as opposed to us

3120
02:24:27,479 --> 02:24:30,120
hiring an engineering team so I think we

3121
02:24:30,120 --> 02:24:32,160
just need some

3122
02:24:32,160 --> 02:24:34,020
okay I thought that we actually had

3123
02:24:34,020 --> 02:24:35,700
decided that we needed to go ahead with

3124
02:24:35,700 --> 02:24:38,660
the traffic studies I don't think that

3125
02:24:38,660 --> 02:24:41,700
anything was actually said that said go

3126
02:24:41,700 --> 02:24:43,439
ahead

3127
02:24:43,439 --> 02:24:46,210
okay

3128
02:24:46,220 --> 02:24:49,319
no we didn't we did not we discussed it

3129
02:24:49,319 --> 02:24:52,750
but we never fun

3130
02:24:52,760 --> 02:24:55,560
I need to put it on the legislative make

3131
02:24:55,560 --> 02:24:57,680
a legislative request

3132
02:24:57,680 --> 02:24:59,640
I kind of because I think that was a

3133
02:24:59,640 --> 02:25:04,389
discussion of leading towards uh yeah

3134
02:25:04,399 --> 02:25:07,260
community meeting was okay it's now the

3135
02:25:07,260 --> 02:25:35,950
next step

3136
02:25:35,960 --> 02:25:38,520
but the material was from the old ones

3137
02:25:38,520 --> 02:25:40,140
is there any value in that didn't get

3138
02:25:40,140 --> 02:25:42,180
anything in return because yes we talked

3139
02:25:42,180 --> 02:25:43,560
about that a little when that metal

3140
02:25:43,560 --> 02:25:45,600
comes back I'm gonna take it we're going

3141
02:25:45,600 --> 02:25:47,160
to clean it off and we're gonna put new

3142
02:25:47,160 --> 02:25:49,880
faces on it okay

3143
02:25:49,880 --> 02:25:52,319
can you quantify what these increases

3144
02:25:52,319 --> 02:25:53,939
will mean in the number

3145
02:25:53,939 --> 02:25:55,979
for each category

3146
02:25:55,979 --> 02:25:58,800
um I mean I don't have those numbers

3147
02:25:58,800 --> 02:26:02,700
with me I certainly uh did it based on

3148
02:26:02,700 --> 02:26:04,920
the speed limit signs where you know we

3149
02:26:04,920 --> 02:26:06,660
were talking about five thousand dollars

3150
02:26:06,660 --> 02:26:09,359
at uh based on the number that we had

3151
02:26:09,359 --> 02:26:11,280
and I added a little bit I think that's

3152
02:26:11,280 --> 02:26:13,979
what the cost was uh for receiving this

3153
02:26:13,979 --> 02:26:15,180
time

3154
02:26:15,180 --> 02:26:16,740
um I think the

3155
02:26:16,740 --> 02:26:18,479
um you know probably looking to get

3156
02:26:18,479 --> 02:26:22,260
maybe another six or drop signs um they

3157
02:26:22,260 --> 02:26:24,780
are very expensive so I don't think we

3158
02:26:24,780 --> 02:26:26,700
want to go crazy we've been super lucky

3159
02:26:26,700 --> 02:26:28,740
that none have been damaged you had to

3160
02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:31,380
think that yeah we replaced uh a half a

3161
02:26:31,380 --> 02:26:33,680
dozen signs every week

3162
02:26:33,680 --> 02:26:36,680
it was at least

3163
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:39,300
stop signing that they've been very

3164
02:26:39,300 --> 02:26:42,060
effective and totally I would say that

3165
02:26:42,060 --> 02:26:43,500
yeah we certainly hear it from people

3166
02:26:43,500 --> 02:26:45,300
that they reported on the sign

3167
02:26:45,300 --> 02:26:47,160
maintenance supervisor is that a union

3168
02:26:47,160 --> 02:26:55,990
position it is it is

3169
02:26:56,000 --> 02:26:58,500
supervisor so really all three of them

3170
02:26:58,500 --> 02:27:02,580
work uh one one supervisors over them

3171
02:27:02,580 --> 02:27:05,100
um biggest change that we're looking at

3172
02:27:05,100 --> 02:27:10,920
is uh they asked for uh 65 000 in a

3173
02:27:10,920 --> 02:27:14,040
quick Place uh traffic controllers we

3174
02:27:14,040 --> 02:27:17,880
have uh that'll give us about 15 traffic

3175
02:27:17,880 --> 02:27:20,220
controllers that I'd like to change on

3176
02:27:20,220 --> 02:27:22,260
Upper State Street

3177
02:27:22,260 --> 02:27:24,899
um that are over 20 years old so that we

3178
02:27:24,899 --> 02:27:26,700
can get them in our back in our

3179
02:27:26,700 --> 02:27:30,600
coordinated system so that we can better

3180
02:27:30,600 --> 02:27:33,600
monitor them and better overheat the

3181
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:35,780
signals up up there

3182
02:27:35,780 --> 02:27:39,420
parties position all filled yes yeah but

3183
02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:41,640
that third one took us a while ago we

3184
02:27:41,640 --> 02:27:46,210
finally got it yeah last year

3185
02:27:46,220 --> 02:27:49,200
took a while oh so the one that says

3186
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:53,590
Arbor is filled as well yeah yes

3187
02:27:53,600 --> 02:27:57,590
that's awesome

3188
02:27:57,600 --> 02:28:00,540
okay all right any questions on this no

3189
02:28:00,540 --> 02:28:09,190
if not only want to uh equipment so um

3190
02:28:09,200 --> 02:28:11,760
uh the other

3191
02:28:11,760 --> 02:28:15,420
um change is the uh 425a which is the

3192
02:28:15,420 --> 02:28:16,920
smart city

3193
02:28:16,920 --> 02:28:18,540
um so again when you think of smart City

3194
02:28:18,540 --> 02:28:20,220
there's a couple of different

3195
02:28:20,220 --> 02:28:22,439
um things we're talking about right so

3196
02:28:22,439 --> 02:28:24,420
this particular National pretty smart

3197
02:28:24,420 --> 02:28:26,280
city if you remember going back to the

3198
02:28:26,280 --> 02:28:28,560
committee meeting last week when we went

3199
02:28:28,560 --> 02:28:32,460
machine and uh video analytics so um

3200
02:28:32,460 --> 02:28:34,680
this is the second of three payments

3201
02:28:34,680 --> 02:28:37,380
that we'd be making to National Grid uh

3202
02:28:37,380 --> 02:28:40,260
for that equipment and that's why it's

3203
02:28:40,260 --> 02:28:41,880
like in every other looks like in every

3204
02:28:41,880 --> 02:28:44,040
other year kind of well the first

3205
02:28:44,040 --> 02:28:46,380
payment was a hundred and two thousand

3206
02:28:46,380 --> 02:28:48,780
the second payment was the uh was that

3207
02:28:48,780 --> 02:28:51,960
1.3 and then this one is a one point

3208
02:28:51,960 --> 02:29:02,929
yeah and 21 was 1.3 yeah

3209
02:29:02,939 --> 02:29:05,220
so you're talking about

3210
02:29:05,220 --> 02:29:08,399
um currently working on the Zone A and B

3211
02:29:08,399 --> 02:29:10,620
which is the north and south side of the

3212
02:29:10,620 --> 02:29:13,380
state for the most part as well as the

3213
02:29:13,380 --> 02:29:17,220
North End uh van brinken Avenue area

3214
02:29:17,220 --> 02:29:22,319
um we uh if you recall we did receive a

3215
02:29:22,319 --> 02:29:29,349
um

3216
02:29:29,359 --> 02:29:33,240
that is helping us to do a great portion

3217
02:29:33,240 --> 02:29:34,680
of

3218
02:29:34,680 --> 02:29:36,840
um Hamilton Hill

3219
02:29:36,840 --> 02:29:41,000
um the North End as well as

3220
02:29:41,000 --> 02:29:44,640
around Seward place so uh I don't have

3221
02:29:44,640 --> 02:29:46,560
the numbers I'm sorry I'm not wasn't

3222
02:29:46,560 --> 02:29:48,960
prepared for that but I may come back

3223
02:29:48,960 --> 02:29:51,000
and ask you for some more dollars so

3224
02:29:51,000 --> 02:29:53,100
that we can at least get this core area

3225
02:29:53,100 --> 02:29:56,640
uh complete but um

3226
02:29:56,640 --> 02:30:00,240
we should have another uh 100 access

3227
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:02,340
points in the North End

3228
02:30:02,340 --> 02:30:05,880
um late in the next uh I want to say two

3229
02:30:05,880 --> 02:30:07,500
months

3230
02:30:07,500 --> 02:30:10,140
so they're actively installing them out

3231
02:30:10,140 --> 02:30:12,240
on the polls right now

3232
02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:14,100
um when it's slow because we have to get

3233
02:30:14,100 --> 02:30:16,740
National Grid to power them up and every

3234
02:30:16,740 --> 02:30:19,680
place for the record every time we ask

3235
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:22,319
to put one of these up on the pole we

3236
02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:23,760
have to go through a process with

3237
02:30:23,760 --> 02:30:25,620
National Grid you have to send someone

3238
02:30:25,620 --> 02:30:27,960
out there and measure and look at it and

3239
02:30:27,960 --> 02:30:30,600
see if it's okay and then Verizon has to

3240
02:30:30,600 --> 02:30:33,300
approve it it's a wicked long process

3241
02:30:33,300 --> 02:30:37,200
but um we're getting through it and

3242
02:30:37,200 --> 02:30:41,819
um we have about 300 access points in

3243
02:30:41,819 --> 02:30:44,760
the pipeline and again the first hundred

3244
02:30:44,760 --> 02:30:45,720
or so

3245
02:30:45,720 --> 02:30:47,399
um and we should have relatively

3246
02:30:47,399 --> 02:30:50,100
shortened and then those uh a little

3247
02:30:50,100 --> 02:30:51,359
farther

3248
02:30:51,359 --> 02:30:52,979
what are you

3249
02:30:52,979 --> 02:30:55,260
um you know by the beginning of next

3250
02:30:55,260 --> 02:30:57,300
year we do want to look at the potential

3251
02:30:57,300 --> 02:31:00,359
to ask for some more funding so that we

3252
02:31:00,359 --> 02:31:02,160
can continue the project because it's

3253
02:31:02,160 --> 02:31:06,600
been so well received by our residents

3254
02:31:06,600 --> 02:31:08,880
thank you and I can give you a better

3255
02:31:08,880 --> 02:31:11,220
one if you you know you want me to come

3256
02:31:11,220 --> 02:31:11,939
back

3257
02:31:11,939 --> 02:31:15,359
um maybe next month let's get to the

3258
02:31:15,359 --> 02:31:17,710
budget

3259
02:31:17,720 --> 02:31:21,180
we paid it actually we paid it at 22. we

3260
02:31:21,180 --> 02:31:22,620
charged it back yeah but that was we

3261
02:31:22,620 --> 02:31:24,840
allocated about two million dollars over

3262
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:29,389
yeah there's two million yes yes

3263
02:31:29,399 --> 02:31:33,270
foreign

3264
02:31:33,280 --> 02:31:34,310
[Music]

3265
02:31:34,310 --> 02:31:37,850
[Laughter]

3266
02:31:37,850 --> 02:31:52,750
[Music]

3267
02:31:52,760 --> 02:32:02,870
[Laughter]

3268
02:32:02,880 --> 02:32:12,950
foreign

3269
02:32:12,960 --> 02:32:14,220
let me know if you have any other

3270
02:32:14,220 --> 02:32:15,240
questions

3271
02:32:15,240 --> 02:32:17,760
okay thank you all right thank you I

3272
02:32:17,760 --> 02:32:20,450
think

3273
02:32:20,460 --> 02:32:22,140
thank you

3274
02:32:22,140 --> 02:32:35,630
all right

3275
02:32:35,640 --> 02:32:37,920
thank you

3276
02:32:37,920 --> 02:32:39,000
Department

3277
02:32:39,000 --> 02:32:47,210
[Music]

3278
02:32:47,220 --> 02:32:53,150
here section forwards everything

3279
02:32:53,160 --> 02:32:56,100
I don't see anything else Anthony is

3280
02:32:56,100 --> 02:32:58,439
that correct hey do you have anything uh

3281
02:32:58,439 --> 02:33:00,600
that we can touch on

3282
02:33:00,600 --> 02:33:03,660
no no I just uh can I just ask a

3283
02:33:03,660 --> 02:33:06,359
question about the process now yeah I

3284
02:33:06,359 --> 02:33:07,800
asked him because there was a lot of

3285
02:33:07,800 --> 02:33:09,240
requests there was a lot of different

3286
02:33:09,240 --> 02:33:11,760
things and how do you put that together

3287
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:14,520
yeah the questions that we answer and we

3288
02:33:14,520 --> 02:33:16,620
are print I'm printing out and getting

3289
02:33:16,620 --> 02:33:20,040
copies to all the council members

3290
02:33:20,040 --> 02:33:22,140
um is there anything if you go through

3291
02:33:22,140 --> 02:33:24,000
your questions and the answer is not

3292
02:33:24,000 --> 02:33:25,620
what you're looking for please let us

3293
02:33:25,620 --> 02:33:28,140
know and we can reach out back to the

3294
02:33:28,140 --> 02:33:30,260
department head to clarify any

3295
02:33:30,260 --> 02:33:32,760
unanswered question or need additional

3296
02:33:32,760 --> 02:33:33,899
information

3297
02:33:33,899 --> 02:33:36,540
and one of the questions then how about

3298
02:33:36,540 --> 02:33:40,080
changes yes you I mean I think we should

3299
02:33:40,080 --> 02:33:41,880
just look at the question and if you

3300
02:33:41,880 --> 02:33:44,040
feel that satisfied just reach out to me

3301
02:33:44,040 --> 02:33:58,210
and I can ask Anthony

3302
02:33:58,220 --> 02:34:00,899
yeah and I have to comment them for

3303
02:34:00,899 --> 02:34:02,880
doing that because it's not easy to get

3304
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:05,580
all the answers to these questions and

3305
02:34:05,580 --> 02:34:07,620
it doesn't mean that you guys keep

3306
02:34:07,620 --> 02:34:09,479
submitting your questions we'll get an

3307
02:34:09,479 --> 02:34:11,340
answer

3308
02:34:11,340 --> 02:34:13,620
um tomorrow we'll group I am requesting

3309
02:34:13,620 --> 02:34:16,260
that we meet at six I have a little bit

3310
02:34:16,260 --> 02:34:19,380
of setback tomorrow so if you guys can

3311
02:34:19,380 --> 02:34:22,080
please um give me a break at six o'clock

3312
02:34:22,080 --> 02:34:23,819
tomorrow instead of 5 30 I really

3313
02:34:23,819 --> 02:34:25,380
appreciate it

3314
02:34:25,380 --> 02:34:27,600
um I know that I am getting some changes

3315
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:29,460
already we're getting some proposed

3316
02:34:29,460 --> 02:34:30,439
changes

3317
02:34:30,439 --> 02:34:32,880
you guys do that now you're gonna yeah

3318
02:34:32,880 --> 02:34:35,580
separately decide the changes well we

3319
02:34:35,580 --> 02:34:38,180
need six o'clock tomorrow okay

3320
02:34:38,180 --> 02:34:40,740
discuss those um those changes tomorrow

3321
02:34:40,740 --> 02:34:42,600
at six o'clock but I encourage everybody

3322
02:34:42,600 --> 02:34:45,120
please submit I know John I'm trying to

3323
02:34:45,120 --> 02:34:47,220
Papa John's I came to you late no that's

3324
02:34:47,220 --> 02:34:49,859
all right send them in tomorrow and

3325
02:34:49,859 --> 02:34:52,800
we'll discuss them but copy Anthony at

3326
02:34:52,800 --> 02:34:56,580
what time we are proposing the changes

3327
02:34:56,580 --> 02:34:59,580
that we must discuss our final

3328
02:34:59,580 --> 02:35:02,460
budget with him okay being at a table

3329
02:35:02,460 --> 02:35:04,979
with us I asked

3330
02:35:04,979 --> 02:35:07,380
um Mr Ferrari to send me a list which he

3331
02:35:07,380 --> 02:35:10,319
now I think all of us have of all across

3332
02:35:10,319 --> 02:35:12,300
all departments so we probably end up

3333
02:35:12,300 --> 02:35:14,640
having to do that next week

3334
02:35:14,640 --> 02:35:17,280
um but there are I mean you'll see the

3335
02:35:17,280 --> 02:35:18,600
chart because it was I think in our

3336
02:35:18,600 --> 02:35:20,100
mailboxes

3337
02:35:20,100 --> 02:35:22,560
um when we arrived today yesterday from

3338
02:35:22,560 --> 02:35:24,780
yesterday yeah yeah there was nothing

3339
02:35:24,780 --> 02:35:27,240
this was in yesterday yeah

3340
02:35:27,240 --> 02:35:30,180
oh because I I wrote him yeah as soon as

3341
02:35:30,180 --> 02:35:31,859
I asked him he's so funny to you because

3342
02:35:31,859 --> 02:35:33,300
I said oh you probably didn't get it get

3343
02:35:33,300 --> 02:35:35,359
it but it was there yesterday

3344
02:35:35,359 --> 02:35:37,800
I see Mr Williams

3345
02:35:37,800 --> 02:35:39,420
um have already presented to us before

3346
02:35:39,420 --> 02:35:42,120
we got this conversation yesterday

3347
02:35:42,120 --> 02:35:44,700
so yeah if you need to have further

3348
02:35:44,700 --> 02:35:46,680
rationale for any of the other positions

3349
02:35:46,680 --> 02:35:48,720
that are on this

3350
02:35:48,720 --> 02:35:50,700
um I think we'd have to call the staff

3351
02:35:50,700 --> 02:35:53,280
the department heads back in

3352
02:35:53,280 --> 02:35:55,620
um if not send us send us the question

3353
02:35:55,620 --> 02:35:57,780
that you may have and we can ask the

3354
02:35:57,780 --> 02:36:01,080
department what we did today right

3355
02:36:01,080 --> 02:36:04,500
a you know asking the same questions as

3356
02:36:04,500 --> 02:36:07,620
we asked Mr Gardner to describe I guess

3357
02:36:07,620 --> 02:36:10,439
is what I'm asking then you see the list

3358
02:36:10,439 --> 02:36:10,710
yeah

3359
02:36:10,710 --> 02:36:14,000
[Music]

3360
02:36:14,000 --> 02:36:16,020
Mr Gardner was kind of different because

3361
02:36:16,020 --> 02:36:18,660
he's asking for a new apartment versus

3362
02:36:18,660 --> 02:36:21,420
oh somebody asked me for an Empire

3363
02:36:21,420 --> 02:36:23,479
um