1 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:45,150 foreign 2 00:00:45,160 --> 00:01:06,420 [Music] 3 00:01:06,420 --> 00:01:08,820 foreign 4 00:01:08,820 --> 00:02:18,710 [Music] 5 00:02:18,720 --> 00:03:59,970 foreign 6 00:03:59,980 --> 00:04:12,429 [Music] 7 00:04:12,439 --> 00:04:15,180 it keeps getting bigger day by day I 8 00:04:15,180 --> 00:04:22,610 know what is that 9 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:24,479 yeah we were just saying we wish we had 10 00:04:24,479 --> 00:04:27,360 either got gotten a binder or you know 11 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:28,979 like 12 00:04:28,979 --> 00:04:31,380 to get all of this into one binder that 13 00:04:31,380 --> 00:04:33,320 gets given to us 14 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,639 yeah we got yeah I just put dates on 15 00:04:35,639 --> 00:04:37,440 them to know which day I got what 16 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,080 smart I tried stapling some stuff 17 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,699 together but I lost track after the 18 00:04:41,699 --> 00:04:44,220 first night no it's just been a growing 19 00:04:44,220 --> 00:04:54,640 aisle 20 00:04:54,650 --> 00:05:01,860 [Music] 21 00:05:01,860 --> 00:05:05,360 okay 22 00:05:05,370 --> 00:05:10,930 [Music] 23 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:15,710 well let's start a couple of minutes 24 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:35,810 oh 25 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:37,940 okay 26 00:05:37,940 --> 00:05:45,129 oh yeah okay 27 00:05:45,139 --> 00:05:47,280 let's try though 28 00:05:47,280 --> 00:06:06,230 foreign 29 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:18,529 [Laughter] 30 00:06:18,539 --> 00:06:48,830 foreign 31 00:06:48,840 --> 00:06:51,840 of the women answer and then we asked 32 00:06:51,840 --> 00:06:53,760 for it please pass 33 00:06:53,760 --> 00:06:57,770 [Applause] 34 00:06:57,780 --> 00:06:59,940 questions I asked of what it would cost 35 00:06:59,940 --> 00:07:02,520 us a four percent increase for 36 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:19,070 management so these are Communications 37 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,070 sleep 38 00:07:20,070 --> 00:07:22,020 [Music] 39 00:07:22,020 --> 00:07:29,529 one more 40 00:07:29,539 --> 00:07:33,599 I think it went that way as well Maria 41 00:07:33,599 --> 00:07:35,520 yeah which one which is this last one 42 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:37,800 you printed out okay let's go here was a 43 00:07:37,800 --> 00:07:40,139 question I asked us a four percent 44 00:07:40,139 --> 00:07:52,850 increase okay okay 45 00:07:52,860 --> 00:08:17,000 foreign 46 00:08:17,010 --> 00:08:29,689 [Music] 47 00:08:29,699 --> 00:09:11,090 thank you 48 00:09:11,100 --> 00:09:29,810 service Navigator 49 00:09:29,820 --> 00:09:59,329 okay 50 00:09:59,339 --> 00:10:42,170 foreign 51 00:10:42,180 --> 00:11:07,069 [Music] 52 00:11:07,079 --> 00:11:38,210 foreign 53 00:11:38,220 --> 00:11:39,360 coming 54 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,940 say something 55 00:11:41,940 --> 00:11:43,620 hello hello 56 00:11:43,620 --> 00:11:47,509 it didn't work so much for that scene 57 00:11:47,519 --> 00:11:50,640 what are we we don't think anybody can 58 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,040 hear us no 59 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:54,959 we're looking at the tracking on the 60 00:11:54,959 --> 00:11:56,279 camera 61 00:11:56,279 --> 00:11:58,320 oh 62 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:00,240 I see what you're saying I I can't see 63 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:06,350 behind me I wish I could oh there you go 64 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,579 it was your paper yeah 65 00:12:08,579 --> 00:12:20,750 maybe it's motion not noise 66 00:12:20,760 --> 00:12:23,220 come on anymore you see him coming 67 00:12:23,220 --> 00:12:24,440 at least 68 00:12:24,440 --> 00:12:27,120 it's right here oh you saw him on the 69 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:29,279 thing oh no I just heard some noise when 70 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:30,560 I turned around 71 00:12:30,560 --> 00:12:47,569 my screen 72 00:12:47,579 --> 00:13:41,629 foreign 73 00:13:41,639 --> 00:14:02,870 thank you 74 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:07,389 are you ready to start yeah 75 00:14:07,399 --> 00:14:09,779 I would like to call the finance 76 00:14:09,779 --> 00:14:13,560 committee to order and this evening we 77 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:14,940 will discuss 78 00:14:14,940 --> 00:14:15,860 um 79 00:14:15,860 --> 00:14:18,600 recommendation from Council Members 80 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:21,779 because of the mayor's proposed budget 81 00:14:21,779 --> 00:14:23,459 and the changes 82 00:14:23,459 --> 00:14:28,680 I just want to Echo that we had a fourth 83 00:14:28,680 --> 00:14:31,560 four evening of hearing from the budget 84 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,839 I want to thank Anthony for the 85 00:14:33,839 --> 00:14:35,940 department head and everybody who was so 86 00:14:35,940 --> 00:14:39,480 diligent in providing the answers to the 87 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:41,639 many of questions from the members of 88 00:14:41,639 --> 00:14:42,779 the council 89 00:14:42,779 --> 00:14:45,959 and I appreciate that the answers are we 90 00:14:45,959 --> 00:14:48,000 all were able to get answers and follow 91 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:51,360 up with questions to answer and that was 92 00:14:51,360 --> 00:15:00,050 great I'll be able to do that and 93 00:15:00,060 --> 00:15:03,180 recommendation or any changes from the 94 00:15:03,180 --> 00:15:04,560 council 95 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:06,660 what we have in front of us here is the 96 00:15:06,660 --> 00:15:08,279 documents that I 97 00:15:08,279 --> 00:15:11,699 put together with all the proposed 98 00:15:11,699 --> 00:15:15,420 changes from council members 99 00:15:15,420 --> 00:15:18,839 and this evening I would like to suggest 100 00:15:18,839 --> 00:15:21,680 that we go through these 101 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:25,620 and give the mayor the finance 102 00:15:25,620 --> 00:15:27,540 department an opportunity to go over 103 00:15:27,540 --> 00:15:29,639 this and come back to us 104 00:15:29,639 --> 00:15:32,639 with the right side left side number of 105 00:15:32,639 --> 00:15:34,440 how we balance this if we were to 106 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:36,660 proceed with all of this here so that we 107 00:15:36,660 --> 00:15:39,480 can actually look at numbers and to see 108 00:15:39,480 --> 00:15:41,639 are we good in this to proceed with all 109 00:15:41,639 --> 00:15:44,459 the recommended change or should we just 110 00:15:44,459 --> 00:15:47,399 change our mind and decide to you know 111 00:15:47,399 --> 00:15:50,279 make amends on certain things so one of 112 00:15:50,279 --> 00:15:51,540 the things before we go into this is 113 00:15:51,540 --> 00:15:53,639 that I would like the council to 114 00:15:53,639 --> 00:15:56,579 consider that we meet next week and the 115 00:15:56,579 --> 00:15:57,839 reason why we wanted to meet next week 116 00:15:57,839 --> 00:15:59,940 is to give the mayor and the financing 117 00:15:59,940 --> 00:16:02,160 the opportunity to look at his document 118 00:16:02,160 --> 00:16:03,899 look at the numbers that come back to us 119 00:16:03,899 --> 00:16:06,420 and then we can able to make a good 120 00:16:06,420 --> 00:16:09,720 judgment on how do we proceed so I 121 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,060 recommend that we do not to 122 00:16:12,060 --> 00:16:14,399 pass anything tonight I'll just discuss 123 00:16:14,399 --> 00:16:16,560 this and allow them the opportunity to 124 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:18,060 come back to us 125 00:16:18,060 --> 00:16:19,740 in the next couple days or so with 126 00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:22,380 numbers and then so before we go into 127 00:16:22,380 --> 00:16:24,180 discussion I would like everyone to kind 128 00:16:24,180 --> 00:16:26,279 of like how is your schedule next week 129 00:16:26,279 --> 00:16:29,519 that week me and we have to do a couple 130 00:16:29,519 --> 00:16:30,959 days out 131 00:16:30,959 --> 00:16:35,509 and then we'll go into a discussion here 132 00:16:35,519 --> 00:16:38,160 I know everyone was busy when we started 133 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,779 this 134 00:16:39,779 --> 00:16:41,650 Tuesday 135 00:16:41,650 --> 00:16:54,420 [Music] 136 00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:55,560 um 137 00:16:55,560 --> 00:17:00,380 I could meet uh like after 5 30. 138 00:17:00,380 --> 00:17:03,839 Wednesday I could meet probably after 139 00:17:03,839 --> 00:17:05,339 six o'clock 140 00:17:05,339 --> 00:17:07,079 well yeah during the day I'm I'm 141 00:17:07,079 --> 00:17:08,059 available 142 00:17:08,059 --> 00:17:10,699 those cannot be Thursday 143 00:17:10,699 --> 00:17:14,809 cannot be Friday 144 00:17:14,819 --> 00:17:17,520 yes I have late afternoon meetings but 145 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:20,520 how was your next week I'm 146 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:23,240 um I'm in the afternoon yeah Wednesday 147 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,020 would be 148 00:17:25,020 --> 00:17:27,299 Wednesday Thursday 149 00:17:27,299 --> 00:17:30,540 be with us Wednesday or Thursday and it 150 00:17:30,540 --> 00:17:32,820 would have to be after you know after 151 00:17:32,820 --> 00:17:38,210 six both days 152 00:17:38,220 --> 00:17:40,620 okay 153 00:17:40,620 --> 00:17:42,960 Mr Williams I can read Tuesday Wednesday 154 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:47,990 Thursday at work 155 00:17:48,000 --> 00:17:50,100 Wednesday 156 00:17:50,100 --> 00:18:02,650 Thursday 157 00:18:02,660 --> 00:18:06,890 Wednesday yes Tuesday Wednesday 158 00:18:06,900 --> 00:18:13,130 um 159 00:18:13,140 --> 00:18:16,340 Wednesday or Thursday Wednesday 160 00:18:16,340 --> 00:18:19,140 so it looked like Wednesday I'm going to 161 00:18:19,140 --> 00:18:21,500 make myself 162 00:18:21,510 --> 00:18:26,169 [Music] 163 00:18:26,179 --> 00:18:29,039 you have something every night 164 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:34,310 I mean if you do you do I know 165 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:40,370 if Jose is that um 166 00:18:40,380 --> 00:18:46,560 so Tuesday is not available 167 00:18:46,570 --> 00:19:13,190 [Music] 168 00:19:13,200 --> 00:19:15,720 I I have a 4 30 meeting on Wednesday but 169 00:19:15,720 --> 00:19:17,280 I would be here 170 00:19:17,280 --> 00:19:20,160 um you know by quarter of six 171 00:19:20,160 --> 00:19:24,440 can we do it for six to accommodate um 172 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,340 10 minutes after six 173 00:19:28,340 --> 00:19:31,799 Wednesday six pm 174 00:19:31,799 --> 00:19:33,679 yeah 175 00:19:33,679 --> 00:19:38,640 no but if that's out I can rearrange oh 176 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,260 Wednesday 177 00:19:40,260 --> 00:19:44,270 26th 178 00:19:44,280 --> 00:19:48,299 that's good question would you be able 179 00:19:48,299 --> 00:19:51,539 to I don't know during the pandemic and 180 00:19:51,539 --> 00:20:09,370 universities 181 00:20:09,380 --> 00:20:11,520 that um 182 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:13,380 don't make contact with them to have 183 00:20:13,380 --> 00:20:14,220 that 184 00:20:14,220 --> 00:20:15,240 yes 185 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,220 uh this big thing we'll have to call the 186 00:20:17,220 --> 00:20:18,660 committee meeting and then we'll have to 187 00:20:18,660 --> 00:20:20,400 call it a special city council meeting 188 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:23,820 on their very same thing 189 00:20:23,820 --> 00:20:26,160 you could recess the money Monday 190 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:28,740 meeting and reconvene it 191 00:20:28,740 --> 00:20:30,799 um 192 00:20:30,799 --> 00:20:32,900 yes 193 00:20:32,900 --> 00:20:35,940 you're passing it on Wednesday then are 194 00:20:35,940 --> 00:20:37,260 you passing on Wednesday are you having 195 00:20:37,260 --> 00:20:38,480 a committee meeting 196 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:40,559 it sounds like you want to check it out 197 00:20:40,559 --> 00:20:42,840 so yeah I look forward to the boat and 198 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,660 get it out because it's you the next 199 00:20:45,660 --> 00:21:19,310 foreign 200 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,120 fall back to a lot of the finance coming 201 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,780 to anything and do both of his family 202 00:21:23,780 --> 00:21:28,430 and get it out for them 203 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:29,520 because 204 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,000 we don't want to meet another day 205 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:34,679 we'd have to meet if we did we'd have to 206 00:21:34,679 --> 00:21:37,500 meet um like on a Sunday or no Monday 207 00:21:37,500 --> 00:21:40,380 the 31st so oh that's true actually but 208 00:21:40,380 --> 00:21:43,930 yeah 209 00:21:43,940 --> 00:21:48,909 I'm out of town 210 00:21:48,919 --> 00:21:56,830 right exactly 211 00:21:56,840 --> 00:22:00,600 and we will have two meetings committee 212 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:05,450 meeting and the city council meeting 213 00:22:05,460 --> 00:22:07,740 all right 214 00:22:07,740 --> 00:22:10,799 everyone has a document here so we can 215 00:22:10,799 --> 00:22:13,980 show you how those candidates to read 216 00:22:13,980 --> 00:22:15,600 um 217 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:20,820 open for discussion as we you know air 218 00:22:20,820 --> 00:22:22,919 um I just want to put one item out and 219 00:22:22,919 --> 00:22:25,340 support from music Haven concert series 220 00:22:25,340 --> 00:22:30,480 I know we all receive an email from uh 221 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:34,980 asking for funding to help us 222 00:22:34,980 --> 00:22:37,320 and I'll put some of the comment here I 223 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,179 get out of my indicators to speak about 224 00:22:39,179 --> 00:22:41,940 today and we'll talk about the expense 225 00:22:41,940 --> 00:22:43,500 that 226 00:22:43,500 --> 00:22:46,200 is being incurred to carry this event 227 00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,820 and we know 228 00:22:47,820 --> 00:22:49,799 all of us don't want to be impact of 229 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:51,600 that concert series so let's connect to 230 00:22:51,600 --> 00:22:54,059 the tourism you know priorities coming 231 00:22:54,059 --> 00:22:56,640 in people Hotel restaurants and 232 00:22:56,640 --> 00:22:58,919 everything like that and she is 233 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:00,960 requesting uh twenty thousand dollars in 234 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:03,120 that email 235 00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:04,919 um I'm gonna make a push here I think 236 00:23:04,919 --> 00:23:07,320 you should remember that because of the 237 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,360 impact and thousands of people that is 238 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:12,419 coming every weekend 239 00:23:12,419 --> 00:23:15,000 so to witness what's going on in the 240 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,580 city here on music Haven so I'm leaving 241 00:23:17,580 --> 00:23:20,820 that out there and I would like us to 242 00:23:20,820 --> 00:23:24,059 talk about it and see where we can land 243 00:23:24,059 --> 00:23:26,460 a reasonable figure to help yes I know 244 00:23:26,460 --> 00:23:29,100 Miss Patrick is very involved in this so 245 00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:32,700 I will go to you first I am so I I um I 246 00:23:32,700 --> 00:23:35,580 am a volunteer with music Haven I want 247 00:23:35,580 --> 00:23:36,900 to say that 248 00:23:36,900 --> 00:23:39,419 um so I probably have to recuse myself I 249 00:23:39,419 --> 00:23:41,640 guess but yes I would support the twenty 250 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,380 thousand dollars but 251 00:23:43,380 --> 00:23:46,080 um basically we do get thousands of 252 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,760 people and they come from all over the 253 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,620 city and it's an incredibly diverse 254 00:23:49,620 --> 00:23:51,900 audience of people 255 00:23:51,900 --> 00:23:54,120 um the the scheduling of the concerts 256 00:23:54,120 --> 00:23:56,760 hits a lot of different ethnicities in 257 00:23:56,760 --> 00:23:59,120 terms of the types of music 258 00:23:59,120 --> 00:24:02,100 that are brought so that it's very 259 00:24:02,100 --> 00:24:03,960 diverse in terms of the types of music 260 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:05,820 it's very diverse in terms of the 261 00:24:05,820 --> 00:24:08,100 offerings and then the Crowds Are 262 00:24:08,100 --> 00:24:10,020 wonderfully diverse I mean it's really 263 00:24:10,020 --> 00:24:13,380 incredible to be there and be a part of 264 00:24:13,380 --> 00:24:15,419 this I think also another point to point 265 00:24:15,419 --> 00:24:18,780 out is that it does go beyond the music 266 00:24:18,780 --> 00:24:22,520 Haven concert series to the support that 267 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,919 Mona provides to Juneteenth the 268 00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:28,919 Caribbean fest or any of the other 269 00:24:28,919 --> 00:24:31,320 activities that have been 270 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:33,240 um usually there's somebody that might 271 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:36,140 be backstage that would also being paid 272 00:24:36,140 --> 00:24:40,200 through Mona's budget and so she raises 273 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600 when it says 150 I mean she raises over 274 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:45,179 150 000 275 00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:47,820 um higher than that and brings in 276 00:24:47,820 --> 00:24:50,220 world-class entertainment from all 277 00:24:50,220 --> 00:24:51,780 around the world thankfully now that 278 00:24:51,780 --> 00:24:53,580 Kobe's over 279 00:24:53,580 --> 00:24:56,340 um so I would definitely so I just think 280 00:24:56,340 --> 00:24:59,159 it's you know it's something that unites 281 00:24:59,159 --> 00:25:00,659 all of us 282 00:25:00,659 --> 00:25:07,090 um in the city so it does I 283 00:25:07,100 --> 00:25:10,799 on the high end and they have been 284 00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:14,220 reaching out to our organization to seek 285 00:25:14,220 --> 00:25:17,039 donation so outside these expense so why 286 00:25:17,039 --> 00:25:19,740 not us that is something that is secure 287 00:25:19,740 --> 00:25:23,950 and dear to us 288 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,640 yeah and I I agree with all of what you 289 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:28,860 said so and and especially based on what 290 00:25:28,860 --> 00:25:30,659 you said I think this is like an ideal 291 00:25:30,659 --> 00:25:32,880 place to spend our for money because it 292 00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:34,980 covers you know it checks all the bosses 293 00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:37,980 and so she asked for 20 but so 294 00:25:37,980 --> 00:25:40,860 if that's all she's asking for but uh do 295 00:25:40,860 --> 00:25:45,360 we do we really want to I mean is she 296 00:25:45,360 --> 00:25:47,880 asking for 20 only because that's all 297 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:50,400 she really needs I mean I'm not 298 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:52,620 oh I think 299 00:25:52,620 --> 00:25:55,029 um 300 00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,360 I would like to see this be part of the 301 00:25:57,360 --> 00:25:58,740 operating budget 302 00:25:58,740 --> 00:26:01,580 um because our was going to go away 303 00:26:01,580 --> 00:26:04,620 I mean music I think this was the 37th 304 00:26:04,620 --> 00:26:05,480 year 305 00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:13,320 37 that this has been happening that's a lot of years yeah so we're in response to that where would 306 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,900 what line I don't know I mean 307 00:26:15,900 --> 00:26:17,120 [Music] 308 00:26:17,120 --> 00:26:25,029 without not getting into them I think um 309 00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:28,760 yes that's absolutely right yeah okay 310 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:38,409 you're not a member of the music here 311 00:26:38,419 --> 00:26:40,159 thank you 312 00:26:40,159 --> 00:26:44,529 yeah 313 00:26:44,539 --> 00:26:47,539 I work 314 00:26:47,539 --> 00:26:49,700 anymore 315 00:26:49,700 --> 00:26:52,919 so I so um I agreed everything else said 316 00:26:52,919 --> 00:26:55,500 I you know we we've been going out there 317 00:26:55,500 --> 00:26:57,539 about how important you know that event 318 00:26:57,539 --> 00:26:58,980 series is and all the wonderful things 319 00:26:58,980 --> 00:27:00,480 that it does for the city 320 00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:02,700 um so I would be in support of that 321 00:27:02,700 --> 00:27:04,380 um I would 322 00:27:04,380 --> 00:27:06,720 maybe have a conversation with Mother 323 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,760 before you know you talk about uh 324 00:27:08,760 --> 00:27:10,860 increasing the money I think if she's 325 00:27:10,860 --> 00:27:12,480 asking for twenty thousand then we need 326 00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,640 to meet twenty thousand minimum I 327 00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:16,440 wouldn't be opposed to increasing money 328 00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:17,760 at all you know because I think it's an 329 00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:20,279 important thing but you know 330 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:21,900 if that's what she's asking for I think 331 00:27:21,900 --> 00:27:23,400 that at least we could do it because we 332 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,769 compare 333 00:27:26,779 --> 00:27:28,860 myself I did had a conversation with 334 00:27:28,860 --> 00:27:31,380 Hershey I think if I can recall it was a 335 00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:32,640 she asked me kind of tells him because 336 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,380 she was thinking that she don't want to 337 00:27:34,380 --> 00:27:35,960 ask for too much 338 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,460 so I've been where are we going to get 339 00:27:38,460 --> 00:27:41,480 the additional funding right we'll see 340 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,100 additional funding outside of the city 341 00:27:44,100 --> 00:27:46,679 within the city limit and just as a 342 00:27:46,679 --> 00:27:48,179 point of clarity so what I think when 343 00:27:48,179 --> 00:27:49,860 you started what you're saying is that 344 00:27:49,860 --> 00:27:51,480 so we're going to go through these and 345 00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:54,659 then we're going to say hey this is what 346 00:27:54,659 --> 00:27:56,340 we might be interested in and then 347 00:27:56,340 --> 00:27:59,769 what's going to come back to us 348 00:27:59,779 --> 00:28:03,059 but I mean yeah but we're going to do it 349 00:28:03,059 --> 00:28:05,700 um we'll discuss it and then we'll hand 350 00:28:05,700 --> 00:28:07,740 it over to the mayor and Anthony to come 351 00:28:07,740 --> 00:28:09,659 back with the numbers whether it works 352 00:28:09,659 --> 00:28:12,659 and then we can recruit Wednesday to see 353 00:28:12,659 --> 00:28:15,600 is this workable it's not workable we 354 00:28:15,600 --> 00:28:17,340 should drop it we should right okay we 355 00:28:17,340 --> 00:28:18,600 should go forward that's right thank you 356 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:20,760 yeah so we're more more of you flushing 357 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:22,980 it out with discussing it 358 00:28:22,980 --> 00:28:24,179 um 359 00:28:24,179 --> 00:28:26,880 as well I'm in total agreement with the 360 00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:31,930 20 000 in my working projects 361 00:28:31,940 --> 00:28:35,279 the other thing for the council to 362 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:37,640 consider the music Haven is we do the 363 00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:39,559 swimming pool 364 00:28:39,559 --> 00:28:43,140 the lighting the daytime and parking lot 365 00:28:43,140 --> 00:28:45,960 improvements to walk away 366 00:28:45,960 --> 00:28:48,120 the other Investments we've made in 367 00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:50,580 music Haven it really is a great 368 00:28:50,580 --> 00:28:53,760 facility and so other people want to use 369 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,400 it want to come in and our fee structure 370 00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,260 for actually renting it I think is 371 00:28:58,260 --> 00:29:00,720 probably on the low side and so the 372 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:02,400 council should look at 373 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:05,520 good we want people to use if we want to 374 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:08,340 be there but at the same time there's 375 00:29:08,340 --> 00:29:11,400 some expenses in terms of Staffing 376 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:14,240 maintenance items and to 377 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,620 look to 378 00:29:16,620 --> 00:29:19,860 just review that fee structure to bring 379 00:29:19,860 --> 00:29:22,260 in a little bit of money to offset some 380 00:29:22,260 --> 00:29:24,779 of those costs and enable us to ensure 381 00:29:24,779 --> 00:29:27,779 that the improvements that we make are 382 00:29:27,779 --> 00:29:30,539 maintaining we staff them and uh 383 00:29:30,539 --> 00:29:33,480 it's just an attractive and a good asset 384 00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:38,630 for the community as a whole 385 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,930 uh 386 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:44,640 I'm confident that Mr golubs work within 387 00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,020 the community as well noted and 388 00:29:46,020 --> 00:29:48,120 appreciated her generosity is clearly 389 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:50,159 identified in everything that she she 390 00:29:50,159 --> 00:29:51,659 touches and is not just Financial 391 00:29:51,659 --> 00:29:53,640 contribution it's just her investing her 392 00:29:53,640 --> 00:29:56,760 energy time and efforts so definitely 393 00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,440 I'd be on board with supporting the 394 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,419 twenty thousand dollars 395 00:30:00,419 --> 00:30:01,260 um 396 00:30:01,260 --> 00:30:03,960 an agreement I think if 397 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,779 we are able to make an additional 398 00:30:06,779 --> 00:30:10,980 um a gesture of Goodwill I support the 399 00:30:10,980 --> 00:30:12,840 uh the mayor's comments of making sure 400 00:30:12,840 --> 00:30:14,299 that we're 401 00:30:14,299 --> 00:30:16,500 properly identifying all the ancillary 402 00:30:16,500 --> 00:30:18,539 costs that come with having this 403 00:30:18,539 --> 00:30:22,020 preoccupied more but definitely 404 00:30:22,020 --> 00:30:23,580 putting an investment from the city 405 00:30:23,580 --> 00:30:26,100 standpoint and to just an event that 406 00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:28,799 continues to uplift and showcase our 407 00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:30,960 many talents I think is something that 408 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,909 we can all get behind 409 00:30:34,919 --> 00:30:39,789 hmm 410 00:30:39,799 --> 00:30:41,940 I mean 411 00:30:41,940 --> 00:30:45,960 I can't remember this one is until the 412 00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:47,880 numbers come back from finance 413 00:30:47,880 --> 00:30:49,500 department from the main and being able 414 00:30:49,500 --> 00:30:50,940 to 415 00:30:50,940 --> 00:30:53,120 arrive at it 416 00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,320 so let's move through and if there is 417 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:56,880 any question that we need to answer I 418 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,279 will try to answer it on our part so 419 00:30:59,279 --> 00:31:23,810 council member for help 420 00:31:23,820 --> 00:31:39,450 foreign 421 00:31:39,460 --> 00:31:47,399 [Music] 422 00:31:47,399 --> 00:31:51,320 it's trying to ask questions 423 00:31:51,320 --> 00:31:55,080 on page two yeah 10 10 100 research 424 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:56,760 Council 425 00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:59,340 is that something new 426 00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:02,460 yes okay all right 427 00:32:02,460 --> 00:32:06,659 so you're increasing that by 83 000. 428 00:32:06,659 --> 00:32:17,110 and and what would that be I'm just sure 429 00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:18,690 yeah 430 00:32:18,690 --> 00:32:21,440 [Music] 431 00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:25,320 city council okay and it will be a 432 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:30,250 council that would work 433 00:32:30,260 --> 00:32:34,020 the city council or guidance and all 434 00:32:34,020 --> 00:32:38,159 social help with the police review for 435 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:43,010 am I miss anything there 436 00:32:43,020 --> 00:32:45,419 where do you work with our attorneys or 437 00:32:45,419 --> 00:32:48,059 is it a separate or 438 00:32:48,059 --> 00:32:51,240 is he uh like uh 439 00:32:51,240 --> 00:32:52,700 Consulting 440 00:32:52,700 --> 00:32:57,059 excuse me just I just I just popped up I 441 00:32:57,059 --> 00:32:58,500 didn't see that before 442 00:32:58,500 --> 00:33:01,500 so if he's gonna he or she is going to 443 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:02,880 work with a 444 00:33:02,880 --> 00:33:04,320 they're going to work with the police 445 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,899 Community new board but in that defects 446 00:33:06,899 --> 00:33:08,399 but then they would be like a consultant 447 00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:09,179 right 448 00:33:09,179 --> 00:33:11,460 beef service that then 449 00:33:11,460 --> 00:33:16,610 so please review more 450 00:33:16,620 --> 00:33:20,700 and the council and right 451 00:33:20,700 --> 00:33:23,820 and so 452 00:33:23,820 --> 00:33:25,740 just to be clear so we're putting this 453 00:33:25,740 --> 00:33:43,150 in his face for service 454 00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,600 [Applause] 455 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:47,990 thank you 456 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,000 so go ahead please I'm not really sure 457 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,940 why we would need that position 458 00:33:53,940 --> 00:33:55,320 it seems like a lot of money for 459 00:33:55,320 --> 00:33:56,760 something that I don't know why the city 460 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:01,970 council would need this particular 461 00:34:01,980 --> 00:34:04,200 person 462 00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:07,260 because I mean when we do do stuff we 463 00:34:07,260 --> 00:34:09,899 have a legal team 464 00:34:09,899 --> 00:34:12,720 to be able to assist us I mean I often 465 00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,780 call into 466 00:34:14,780 --> 00:34:16,560 support 467 00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:21,599 and it's pretty readily available to 468 00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:24,240 answer questions 469 00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:26,820 so I'm just asking oh well so I mean 470 00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:29,179 this was I don't know it sounds like 471 00:34:29,179 --> 00:34:31,919 so I I would say I didn't know that 472 00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:32,940 Andrew 473 00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:33,720 um 474 00:34:33,720 --> 00:34:35,099 hey 475 00:34:35,099 --> 00:34:36,960 wasn't part of the available like that 476 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,179 you know if 477 00:34:39,179 --> 00:34:41,220 he's got like 478 00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:43,440 if you have some time to support 479 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:45,060 um but I but I think when we were 480 00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:46,800 talking about police Community blue 481 00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:47,940 board 482 00:34:47,940 --> 00:34:51,899 um that that was my um idea but I think 483 00:34:51,899 --> 00:34:54,480 that having an attorney 484 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:57,730 um 485 00:34:57,740 --> 00:35:01,020 I think that having 486 00:35:01,020 --> 00:35:03,119 that extremely the same as you bring in 487 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:05,940 you know we bring it out by Council for 488 00:35:05,940 --> 00:35:07,920 other things even though Andrew's here 489 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,420 you know what I mean I think that that 490 00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:12,480 just the uh proximity to the city I 491 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:15,300 think that that'll be a good 492 00:35:15,300 --> 00:35:17,220 that would be a good kind of a check and 493 00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:20,280 balance of of the duties of that person 494 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,880 so after we're talking about 495 00:35:23,880 --> 00:35:26,520 the police or View Board supporting them 496 00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,320 I think that it would be 497 00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:29,880 better 498 00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,460 to kind of have that person operate on 499 00:35:32,460 --> 00:35:35,220 in that very specific capacity I think 500 00:35:35,220 --> 00:35:39,060 as plus as a very important position and 501 00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:41,700 I think that I'd like to see someone in 502 00:35:41,700 --> 00:35:44,579 that position of council would really 503 00:35:44,579 --> 00:35:46,500 matter two not with too many other 504 00:35:46,500 --> 00:35:48,060 things on their plate that they can 505 00:35:48,060 --> 00:35:49,560 really focus on that because that seems 506 00:35:49,560 --> 00:35:51,180 to do that something in that case when 507 00:35:51,180 --> 00:35:52,859 I'm being supported to me I don't know 508 00:35:52,859 --> 00:35:54,540 if anybody else is doing this is an area 509 00:35:54,540 --> 00:35:57,950 that can use a lot of help 510 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:00,119 I have heard from some police review 511 00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:02,400 board members that because I was 512 00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,339 interested that no positions were 513 00:36:05,339 --> 00:36:07,380 requested for the police review board 514 00:36:07,380 --> 00:36:09,839 and I heard from 515 00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:10,560 um 516 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:13,740 at least one person that they weren't 517 00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:15,480 asking for any staff from the police 518 00:36:15,480 --> 00:36:16,680 review board 519 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:17,940 um 520 00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:19,440 so 521 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,260 I don't know I mean I think I I think if 522 00:36:22,260 --> 00:36:23,880 there was a need for the police review 523 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,000 board to consult with an attorney 524 00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:29,940 they probably would do that on a 525 00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:32,040 Consulting basis you know if they needed 526 00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:34,800 somebody that they could turn to rather 527 00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:38,160 than hiring an 82 000 Plus benefits 528 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:39,960 person that maybe there's somebody of 529 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,480 council right that they could you know 530 00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,579 on an hourly 531 00:36:44,579 --> 00:36:47,339 way if they have need for 532 00:36:47,339 --> 00:36:50,820 that and it's very great I mean I I 533 00:36:50,820 --> 00:36:52,800 agree with that but I don't know that 534 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,599 you know you need to know somebody on it 535 00:36:54,599 --> 00:36:56,220 full time I think Plus benefits I think 536 00:36:56,220 --> 00:36:58,560 that that I don't know 537 00:36:58,560 --> 00:37:00,060 the appropriate 538 00:37:00,060 --> 00:37:02,160 with the structure that right 539 00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:04,260 but I agree you're surprised initially 540 00:37:04,260 --> 00:37:06,720 that they didn't ask for anything you 541 00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:07,980 know I think that they've definitely 542 00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:09,900 since the topics important 543 00:37:09,900 --> 00:37:12,660 so I would say that I attended one of 544 00:37:12,660 --> 00:37:14,040 their last meetings 545 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:16,560 and um actually there was a proposal 546 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,359 that was put forward and no maybe in the 547 00:37:18,359 --> 00:37:19,740 meeting for less but anyway there was a 548 00:37:19,740 --> 00:37:22,020 proposal and actually there was a 549 00:37:22,020 --> 00:37:24,300 request in there for staff I don't know 550 00:37:24,300 --> 00:37:25,740 if when and if that's going to get to 551 00:37:25,740 --> 00:37:27,119 the council it was they were having a 552 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:29,820 discussion I was just listening so there 553 00:37:29,820 --> 00:37:31,800 was a proposal that was brought to them 554 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:33,780 and then they discussed it and it did 555 00:37:33,780 --> 00:37:38,040 include um step so so I was at that 556 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:39,480 meeting so I say I know you heard from 557 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:41,280 one person but there was a you know kind 558 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,320 of a conversation around that proposal I 559 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:45,240 don't know where it is at this stage or 560 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,280 when it will come to the council but I 561 00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:48,660 know that there was discussion part of 562 00:37:48,660 --> 00:37:52,320 it was um Staffing was going to be part of that 563 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,660 proposal uh when you were let me think 564 00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:57,300 were there any attorney from the city no 565 00:37:57,300 --> 00:37:58,980 there was no cities there that's one of 566 00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:01,140 the one other thing I got I got um what 567 00:38:01,140 --> 00:38:03,300 was happening for seven months now or 568 00:38:03,300 --> 00:38:04,980 over a year or two years at that time we 569 00:38:04,980 --> 00:38:08,040 used to get city attorneys and uh 570 00:38:08,040 --> 00:38:11,760 well on the other side of the Stop and 571 00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,760 there's no attorney as president 572 00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,680 so that we already have to request it so 573 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:18,380 we can pass out 574 00:38:18,380 --> 00:38:22,140 yeah so yes so we'll have to pass it on 575 00:38:22,140 --> 00:38:23,220 for them because that's one of the 576 00:38:23,220 --> 00:38:25,079 questions feel to me so my attorney yet 577 00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:28,260 or not attending this video anymore 578 00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:32,339 thank you I think technical 579 00:38:32,339 --> 00:38:35,400 hiring a detergents both in the charter 580 00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:37,560 and state law or did I appoint 581 00:38:37,560 --> 00:38:39,540 Corporation Council or the Corporation 582 00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:42,660 Council hires the assistant corporation 583 00:38:42,660 --> 00:38:46,079 councils which is entitled to be so I 584 00:38:46,079 --> 00:38:48,480 don't know if you can have one that 585 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,700 in the clerk's office or someplace else 586 00:38:50,700 --> 00:38:53,220 it's got to be for it to be an attorney 587 00:38:53,220 --> 00:38:56,089 to the city 588 00:38:56,099 --> 00:39:00,300 even the pain in the outside 589 00:39:00,300 --> 00:39:03,020 firms when there's area specialization 590 00:39:03,020 --> 00:39:09,710 as you can uh the corporations 591 00:39:09,720 --> 00:39:11,640 I mean I don't know how other people 592 00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,300 feel but I just don't understand 593 00:39:14,300 --> 00:39:16,140 you know 594 00:39:16,140 --> 00:39:19,079 it is when you do have a need to I've 595 00:39:19,079 --> 00:39:20,940 called you many times I think probably 596 00:39:20,940 --> 00:39:22,800 we all have in terms of 597 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:24,660 you know 598 00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:26,460 looking for that legal counsel around 599 00:39:26,460 --> 00:39:28,260 things for that we might be talking 600 00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:31,790 about at city council excuse me 601 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:32,780 um 602 00:39:32,780 --> 00:39:37,560 he's been in when I first got on Council 603 00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:40,680 in that in that sense as well so I don't 604 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,480 know if other how other people feel that 605 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:44,280 I just don't see the need for something 606 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:47,700 to the council for City Council 607 00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:49,680 the part that part of it but I don't 608 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,560 know how other people feel 609 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:56,640 I can see the importance of the actually 610 00:39:56,640 --> 00:40:00,420 and needing legal counseling 611 00:40:00,420 --> 00:40:02,579 right then and there before they can 612 00:40:02,579 --> 00:40:04,260 move forward with whatever they're 613 00:40:04,260 --> 00:40:07,260 discussing so again I would say that I 614 00:40:07,260 --> 00:40:09,119 would leave it up to you know the board 615 00:40:09,119 --> 00:40:11,160 reaching out to Andrew letting you know 616 00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,500 where the meetings are having Council 617 00:40:13,500 --> 00:40:14,940 present 618 00:40:14,940 --> 00:40:17,280 um and then we'll reach out again so 619 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,320 Corporation Council so it would be for 620 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,660 anything that we have that's my feeling 621 00:40:23,660 --> 00:40:27,720 I think historically when we discuss in 622 00:40:27,720 --> 00:40:30,420 terms of seeking and this is I'm 623 00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,160 speaking historically in terms of the 624 00:40:32,160 --> 00:40:34,260 law departments and Advising us as a 625 00:40:34,260 --> 00:40:35,540 consulate 626 00:40:35,540 --> 00:40:38,640 mention that a lot of the proportion 627 00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:40,680 comes from 628 00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:43,440 uh you know works for the man 629 00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:49,609 so I just wanted to cut out okay 630 00:40:49,619 --> 00:40:52,020 so when we when we get close words when 631 00:40:52,020 --> 00:40:55,619 we came and the population comes with 632 00:40:55,619 --> 00:40:59,460 words in a council at the same time in 633 00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:00,300 the 634 00:41:00,300 --> 00:41:03,000 fair in the Judgment or the opinion 635 00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,760 about for both sides 636 00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:08,339 well do you have an example where you 637 00:41:08,339 --> 00:41:10,619 feel that the Corporation Council is not 638 00:41:10,619 --> 00:41:12,480 adequately given advice or 639 00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,040 representative the council or the city 640 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:15,780 well 641 00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:18,920 I don't want to get into that but um 642 00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:22,490 two years 643 00:41:22,500 --> 00:41:24,540 in England I I just want to put that to 644 00:41:24,540 --> 00:41:26,760 the table where it was mentioned so a 645 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:29,700 few times at five minutes so then 646 00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:31,260 trying to hear what's being said right 647 00:41:31,260 --> 00:41:33,780 now and so Corporation Council Vegas 648 00:41:33,780 --> 00:41:35,520 publishing accounts will fit in the 649 00:41:35,520 --> 00:41:36,800 organization 650 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:41,400 so they so appropriate Council 651 00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:55,750 works for 652 00:41:55,760 --> 00:42:12,370 [Music] 653 00:42:12,380 --> 00:42:15,599 so that it does it's directly 654 00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:17,579 um from there along with the director of 655 00:42:17,579 --> 00:42:19,920 operations and the city council staff is 656 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:33,890 the City Club 657 00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:38,810 that 658 00:42:38,820 --> 00:42:41,760 the charge being revised to cooperation 659 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:43,260 Council 660 00:42:43,260 --> 00:42:45,420 represent the mayor's 661 00:42:45,420 --> 00:42:47,220 and the state Council 662 00:42:47,220 --> 00:42:49,440 for the one hour of continuing directly 663 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,300 into 664 00:42:51,300 --> 00:42:55,010 me as a box 665 00:42:55,020 --> 00:42:57,770 hmm 666 00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:01,140 super and I think for 667 00:43:01,140 --> 00:43:02,940 the uh 668 00:43:02,940 --> 00:43:05,040 Community Police review board I think 669 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:06,540 that 670 00:43:06,540 --> 00:43:10,380 the type of things that they are 671 00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:12,540 dealing with I think that there is some 672 00:43:12,540 --> 00:43:13,920 you know 673 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,920 that requires you know maybe some 674 00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,140 specialized things so I agree that we 675 00:43:19,140 --> 00:43:21,960 shouldn't necessarily bring somebody on 676 00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,220 um to 677 00:43:23,220 --> 00:43:25,079 um working full-time but I think that to 678 00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:28,079 make sure that they have the budget so 679 00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:29,900 that if they needed to seek that 680 00:43:29,900 --> 00:43:32,400 consultation they could they could use 681 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,240 it 682 00:43:33,240 --> 00:43:36,300 that's what be my position 683 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:38,520 how does the I guess I would have 684 00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,680 thought that the commissioner 685 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,319 is sort of in that role so that if the 686 00:43:43,319 --> 00:43:46,020 police review board had some sort of 687 00:43:46,020 --> 00:43:48,650 question 688 00:43:48,660 --> 00:43:50,280 I don't know but 689 00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:53,930 because 690 00:43:53,940 --> 00:43:56,160 I can commissioner form of discipline 691 00:43:56,160 --> 00:43:59,339 into City in London establishment of it 692 00:43:59,339 --> 00:44:02,520 who's a much more effective way 693 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,150 of 694 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,980 creating uh 695 00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:10,440 property functioning department when 696 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:13,500 things go along imposing discipline 697 00:44:13,500 --> 00:44:16,140 it's you know it's wise department now 698 00:44:16,140 --> 00:44:18,240 is one of the higher performing 699 00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:22,010 departments 700 00:44:22,020 --> 00:44:27,410 opposed to its history in the past 701 00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:31,500 and I think the board has had any 702 00:44:31,500 --> 00:44:33,180 complaints 703 00:44:33,180 --> 00:44:37,730 in terms of uh 704 00:44:37,740 --> 00:44:39,599 referrals that have gone to the board 705 00:44:39,599 --> 00:44:41,579 that haven't been followed up in a 706 00:44:41,579 --> 00:44:46,740 manner that people feel adequate 707 00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:48,720 in terms of the time and attention 708 00:44:48,720 --> 00:44:51,119 that's given to it might not always be a 709 00:44:51,119 --> 00:44:53,339 hundred percent an agreement with what 710 00:44:53,339 --> 00:44:56,060 the final decision is but the process 711 00:44:56,060 --> 00:45:00,000 validates whatever action is taken 712 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,640 go ahead please so it says the Public 713 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:04,560 Safety Committee chair and also having 714 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:06,960 sat on the police civilian police review 715 00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:09,180 board I've definitely referring back to 716 00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:11,700 the bylaws the city code it does clearly 717 00:45:11,700 --> 00:45:14,819 designate that there needs to be 718 00:45:14,819 --> 00:45:15,660 um 719 00:45:15,660 --> 00:45:19,319 powers or funding to support having a 720 00:45:19,319 --> 00:45:21,720 separate agency to ravine 721 00:45:21,720 --> 00:45:23,280 um whether that's used or not to the 722 00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,640 marriage Point as I think 723 00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,200 unfortunately if it's in the bylaws then 724 00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:30,060 we need to need to support that 725 00:45:30,060 --> 00:45:32,099 statement or remove it 726 00:45:32,099 --> 00:45:34,200 but if we're then entertaining 727 00:45:34,200 --> 00:45:35,760 Sentiments of 728 00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,460 having a Corporation Council that for 729 00:45:38,460 --> 00:45:42,740 lack of better words may have a dual 730 00:45:42,740 --> 00:45:44,520 relationships that they're attending to 731 00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,560 I think there could be some credibility 732 00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,200 with having a separate agency I think if 733 00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,200 the discussion then is how much time do 734 00:45:52,200 --> 00:45:54,180 we need that individual I think that's 735 00:45:54,180 --> 00:45:56,339 where we kind of look at this 82 000 or 736 00:45:56,339 --> 00:45:58,800 is it too high or too low but I would 737 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,119 definitely be in favor of supporting 738 00:46:00,119 --> 00:46:01,680 having this position here and that it 739 00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:03,599 would be Dual Purpose then supporting 740 00:46:03,599 --> 00:46:05,819 the council and then also supporting the 741 00:46:05,819 --> 00:46:10,910 civilian police review board 742 00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,920 go ahead please please so 743 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:18,309 I won't say Andrew the corporations 744 00:46:18,319 --> 00:46:22,500 if he's there or not uh when we go to 745 00:46:22,500 --> 00:46:24,480 him 746 00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:26,400 or her 747 00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:29,940 it is under confidence it's basically 748 00:46:29,940 --> 00:46:33,180 client confidentiality 749 00:46:33,180 --> 00:46:36,380 um so that person is supposed to be 750 00:46:36,380 --> 00:46:38,280 representing us 751 00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:39,680 that way 752 00:46:39,680 --> 00:46:43,740 if that person isn't then 753 00:46:43,740 --> 00:46:46,280 that's when we need to make a change 754 00:46:46,280 --> 00:46:49,079 do the best of my knowledge the current 755 00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:52,619 Corporation Council hasn't done that 756 00:46:52,619 --> 00:46:54,599 um as far as the civilian police review 757 00:46:54,599 --> 00:46:57,180 board goes there is money available 758 00:46:57,180 --> 00:46:59,940 within the fees for services within the 759 00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:04,260 Corporation Council should the cprb need 760 00:47:04,260 --> 00:47:08,839 representation that's separate from the 761 00:47:08,839 --> 00:47:13,079 Corporation Council to hire so I think 762 00:47:13,079 --> 00:47:15,119 there's money already there within fees 763 00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:17,579 for services so all they need to do is 764 00:47:17,579 --> 00:47:21,420 request it so yeah just something just 765 00:47:21,420 --> 00:47:23,400 left across me last night he was from 766 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:24,980 the engineering department 767 00:47:24,980 --> 00:47:28,319 they are engaging alongside attorney to 768 00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:30,900 help with contracts and documentation 769 00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:33,119 and things like that and not utilizing 770 00:47:33,119 --> 00:47:36,020 our attorneys 771 00:47:36,020 --> 00:47:39,780 they're yeah that was mentioned a 772 00:47:39,780 --> 00:47:42,599 engineering firm where the employee 773 00:47:42,599 --> 00:47:44,260 happens to be an attorney 774 00:47:44,260 --> 00:47:46,380 [Music] 775 00:47:46,380 --> 00:47:49,569 um 776 00:47:49,579 --> 00:47:51,900 because I asked a question about AIA 777 00:47:51,900 --> 00:47:53,940 documentation yeah and that is coming 778 00:47:53,940 --> 00:47:55,800 from the attorney reviewing outside 779 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:57,839 attorney reviewing that 780 00:47:57,839 --> 00:48:00,020 but it's Tom Wilson's for 781 00:48:00,020 --> 00:48:03,060 who does work for the city does work for 782 00:48:03,060 --> 00:48:05,640 Metroplex his wife happens to be an 783 00:48:05,640 --> 00:48:07,500 attorney no that does Flash across me 784 00:48:07,500 --> 00:48:09,060 because if he was mentioning that he's 785 00:48:09,060 --> 00:48:10,980 using an attorney or what is the 786 00:48:10,980 --> 00:48:20,470 difference between 787 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,640 and that was the differentiation because 788 00:48:23,640 --> 00:48:26,460 they were stamping the papers and we 789 00:48:26,460 --> 00:48:28,920 don't got at least English we don't have 790 00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,140 one of those 791 00:48:30,140 --> 00:48:32,579 [Music] 792 00:48:32,579 --> 00:48:36,589 uh 793 00:48:36,599 --> 00:48:38,819 but I'm not particularly throughout 794 00:48:38,819 --> 00:48:48,650 engineering's got it separate 795 00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:51,960 he did in his presentation 796 00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:58,010 say he had his own attorney 797 00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:00,300 he has a auditory because it asks who is 798 00:49:00,300 --> 00:49:02,160 reviewing his documentation who is given 799 00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,500 the go ahead on a legal 800 00:49:04,500 --> 00:49:07,380 friend you know setting and over here I 801 00:49:07,380 --> 00:49:08,760 actually looked on the chart that he 802 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,140 gave us though and there was no attorney 803 00:49:10,140 --> 00:49:13,920 listed yeah he got a list of the um the 804 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:16,380 outside Consultants that he uses and he 805 00:49:16,380 --> 00:49:18,359 did not list an attorney I was I was 806 00:49:18,359 --> 00:49:19,560 kind of flipping into that when he said 807 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:29,410 it 808 00:49:29,420 --> 00:49:32,339 the good thing is if there is money 809 00:49:32,339 --> 00:49:34,380 that's already available 810 00:49:34,380 --> 00:49:36,780 for them if they need to seek outside 811 00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:38,420 counsel then 812 00:49:38,420 --> 00:49:42,480 I would be anything uh in favor of 813 00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,880 making sure that you know 814 00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:46,740 why not 815 00:49:46,740 --> 00:49:47,850 from 816 00:49:47,850 --> 00:49:56,030 [Music] 817 00:49:56,040 --> 00:49:58,319 whatever line that the money is there 818 00:49:58,319 --> 00:50:02,400 now that we can make sure that they have 819 00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,460 uh they're online 820 00:50:04,460 --> 00:50:06,800 [Music] 821 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:09,660 more money because we'd be budgeting for 822 00:50:09,660 --> 00:50:12,119 them to do that and you know from what 823 00:50:12,119 --> 00:50:13,920 you know I've heard and other test 824 00:50:13,920 --> 00:50:15,359 members are first like there might be an 825 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:16,500 Indian so 826 00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:20,460 experience the the law department has uh 827 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:22,380 a hundred thousand dollars for outside 828 00:50:22,380 --> 00:50:30,530 Legal Services 829 00:50:30,540 --> 00:50:32,760 okay 830 00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:35,640 I'll say it comes up for uh when we add 831 00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:38,410 negotiations 832 00:50:38,420 --> 00:50:40,859 we've met a few of them when it comes to 833 00:50:40,859 --> 00:50:42,500 like legal yeah 834 00:50:42,500 --> 00:50:46,440 right when it comes to those Court those 835 00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,619 get paid by our insurance companies 836 00:50:48,619 --> 00:50:50,940 but we also have stuff to do like 837 00:50:50,940 --> 00:50:57,910 negotiable please uh our investigations 838 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,200 at cases where police officers are 839 00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:03,319 involved in an incident and 840 00:51:03,319 --> 00:51:05,460 officers are 841 00:51:05,460 --> 00:51:08,040 end up in a conflicted position 842 00:51:08,040 --> 00:51:12,720 bring in a council representative 843 00:51:12,720 --> 00:51:15,300 one of the parties so their independent 844 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:16,619 Council 845 00:51:16,619 --> 00:51:19,559 could you have a conflict where the 846 00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:22,020 mayor of the council don't agree that'd 847 00:51:22,020 --> 00:51:24,359 be very difficult but it didn't come out 848 00:51:24,359 --> 00:51:26,809 of life 849 00:51:26,819 --> 00:51:28,260 again 850 00:51:28,260 --> 00:51:31,619 would bring in outside counsel to give 851 00:51:31,619 --> 00:51:34,559 advice or you know really where it 852 00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,800 becomes more probably is in a if you're 853 00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:39,359 in a formal 854 00:51:39,359 --> 00:51:41,460 litigation where you're actually in 855 00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:44,700 court and somebody is uh 856 00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:48,059 proceeding at a formal action 857 00:51:48,059 --> 00:51:50,460 so we're saying to just go ahead and use 858 00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:52,260 it out of the feature Services that's 859 00:51:52,260 --> 00:51:55,619 currently existing in the Law Department 860 00:51:55,619 --> 00:51:58,140 definitely like quickly or if you think 861 00:51:58,140 --> 00:52:00,599 that's under funded solidify that 862 00:52:00,599 --> 00:52:03,660 modified in a manner to 863 00:52:03,660 --> 00:52:05,700 I 864 00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:07,800 yeah I would think I would think that we 865 00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:08,819 would um 866 00:52:08,819 --> 00:52:12,890 couldn't do welcome to 867 00:52:12,900 --> 00:52:15,119 make it clear 868 00:52:15,119 --> 00:52:18,059 um for the people who are serving on the 869 00:52:18,059 --> 00:52:19,559 board that that is an option that's 870 00:52:19,559 --> 00:52:22,020 available to them and I think that you 871 00:52:22,020 --> 00:52:24,359 know they wouldn't I don't think we do 872 00:52:24,359 --> 00:52:26,640 anything by designating on a certain 873 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,380 amount of money 874 00:52:28,380 --> 00:52:30,240 um to budget for them in order to do 875 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:31,500 that I think that 876 00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,740 saying that you know it's there is one 877 00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:35,940 thing 878 00:52:35,940 --> 00:52:38,400 um but um designating a certain amount 879 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,040 of money into them for that purpose if 880 00:52:41,040 --> 00:52:43,020 they choose to use it they do it if they 881 00:52:43,020 --> 00:52:46,859 don't you know even better I guess 882 00:52:46,859 --> 00:52:48,920 um but I think that there is something 883 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,300 to be said about designating that money 884 00:52:51,300 --> 00:52:54,710 to them 885 00:52:54,720 --> 00:52:56,700 so we started to see me you could 886 00:52:56,700 --> 00:52:58,260 increase 887 00:52:58,260 --> 00:52:59,040 um 888 00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,500 it's the space of line 889 00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:03,599 um but still it needs to be a 890 00:53:03,599 --> 00:53:07,549 designation I would say specificity 891 00:53:07,559 --> 00:53:15,790 is 892 00:53:15,800 --> 00:53:18,960 using that person 893 00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:27,230 questions 894 00:53:27,240 --> 00:53:31,500 I saw some notes here I'm gonna find so 895 00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:36,530 any other ideas to address 896 00:53:36,540 --> 00:53:39,119 I'm going to be clear on are we talking 897 00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:42,180 about increasing this on our wine 898 00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:46,140 you want to separate lines for outside counseling 899 00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:50,700 under law that's specific to cprb 900 00:53:50,700 --> 00:54:16,730 well we can do an A so foreign 901 00:54:16,740 --> 00:54:24,049 so 902 00:54:24,059 --> 00:54:34,630 foreign 903 00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:54,430 [Music] 904 00:54:54,440 --> 00:54:58,020 but Andrew's going to be the one 905 00:54:58,020 --> 00:55:01,079 unless I misunderstood the man hiring 906 00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:03,300 the outside Council 907 00:55:03,300 --> 00:55:06,599 so it should just stay within the fees 908 00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:08,040 for service for 909 00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:11,109 legal department 910 00:55:11,119 --> 00:55:14,579 I think I understand what you're saying 911 00:55:14,579 --> 00:55:16,020 um I just think that there's something 912 00:55:16,020 --> 00:55:16,980 there 913 00:55:16,980 --> 00:55:18,720 um 914 00:55:18,720 --> 00:55:22,380 this board in the spirit of Bush's board 915 00:55:22,380 --> 00:55:24,200 was created in 916 00:55:24,200 --> 00:55:27,839 something very serious there was a 917 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:31,020 commitments that were made to the public 918 00:55:31,020 --> 00:55:33,420 and I think that we ought to demonstrate 919 00:55:33,420 --> 00:55:37,079 our commitment by significantly uh we do 920 00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:39,540 that in making it significant and saying 921 00:55:39,540 --> 00:55:41,880 that there's a designated budget I mean 922 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:44,220 what was their current uh budget right 923 00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:46,380 now five thousand five thousand dollars 924 00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:48,359 you know what I mean and that could 925 00:55:48,359 --> 00:55:50,940 that's for reasons traveling training 926 00:55:50,940 --> 00:55:52,559 and 927 00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,339 I think that we need to really 928 00:55:55,339 --> 00:55:57,599 demonstrate our commitment to what this 929 00:55:57,599 --> 00:55:59,400 world was what was put together to 930 00:55:59,400 --> 00:56:01,200 represent by making sure that they have 931 00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,119 all the resources that they need to do 932 00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,099 their job because if not then what we're 933 00:56:05,099 --> 00:56:06,300 doing and I'm not suggesting that 934 00:56:06,300 --> 00:56:07,619 everyone's saying that so let's be clear 935 00:56:07,619 --> 00:56:09,839 right I'm not suggesting that all right 936 00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:12,059 be clear about that what I'm saying is 937 00:56:12,059 --> 00:56:13,920 that if we're not and all we're doing 938 00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:15,540 this kind of thing we're checking that 939 00:56:15,540 --> 00:56:16,920 box but not really following through 940 00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:19,680 with our commitment in my opinion to the 941 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:21,839 public to make it um a substantial thing 942 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:23,400 to do a very important job that was put 943 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,780 together to do it 944 00:56:24,780 --> 00:56:26,819 so I hear what you're saying I do want 945 00:56:26,819 --> 00:56:30,540 to say I do want to uh okay 946 00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:32,940 um we talked about this extensively and 947 00:56:32,940 --> 00:56:34,500 I think Mr Williams would remember in 948 00:56:34,500 --> 00:56:36,119 Miss Porterfield 949 00:56:36,119 --> 00:56:37,859 um and well also 950 00:56:37,859 --> 00:56:39,240 both of our 951 00:56:39,240 --> 00:56:41,520 Mr John's there 952 00:56:41,520 --> 00:56:48,890 um 953 00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:52,500 police reform and reinvention task force 954 00:56:52,500 --> 00:56:54,960 um we had extensive conversation about 955 00:56:54,960 --> 00:56:58,140 the civilian police review board 956 00:56:58,140 --> 00:57:00,960 um and its role and its needs 957 00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,220 and 958 00:57:02,220 --> 00:57:04,800 you know basically at that group had 959 00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:06,839 really made some decisions correct me if 960 00:57:06,839 --> 00:57:08,339 I'm wrong 961 00:57:08,339 --> 00:57:09,780 um 962 00:57:09,780 --> 00:57:12,960 uh in terms of in terms of what was 963 00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:14,940 needed or or 964 00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:17,099 et cetera and at the time Mr Williams 965 00:57:17,099 --> 00:57:20,579 was I think co-chairing with Mr shave 966 00:57:20,579 --> 00:57:22,440 um 967 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,420 and so I I mean we definitely talked 968 00:57:24,420 --> 00:57:25,980 about it quite a bit 969 00:57:25,980 --> 00:57:28,440 um researched it Etc 970 00:57:28,440 --> 00:57:32,040 um so I don't know I mean I feel 971 00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:34,260 I guess that you know 972 00:57:34,260 --> 00:57:35,839 I don't know 973 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:38,760 but like everything yeah I think because 974 00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:41,520 to your point I mean we talked about you 975 00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,680 know or it was discussed quite a bit you 976 00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:45,000 know what I mean and I think that it's 977 00:57:45,000 --> 00:57:46,800 one thing to talk about it 978 00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:49,920 is another thing to do to support it and 979 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:52,559 I think that this is what you know from 980 00:57:52,559 --> 00:57:55,079 what I'm hearing from people who are um 981 00:57:55,079 --> 00:57:58,200 a part of that board you know 982 00:57:58,200 --> 00:58:01,079 they need resources and 983 00:58:01,079 --> 00:58:04,140 I just I think that you know that we 984 00:58:04,140 --> 00:58:06,839 want them to do the job and do it in a 985 00:58:06,839 --> 00:58:09,839 way then uh you know an efficient way 986 00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:11,460 that we just need to have an efficient 987 00:58:11,460 --> 00:58:12,480 resource I mean I don't think we're 988 00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:17,829 saying to too many different things 989 00:58:17,839 --> 00:58:20,640 Patrick was right definitely when I was 990 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:23,660 co-chairing with dick shave we did 991 00:58:23,660 --> 00:58:26,400 submit a series of recommendations all 992 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:28,440 of which were not fully considered from 993 00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:29,880 being honest 994 00:58:29,880 --> 00:58:31,380 um or were just 995 00:58:31,380 --> 00:58:33,839 I was kind of even at that but I would 996 00:58:33,839 --> 00:58:38,520 say with the revolving door of new board 997 00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:40,920 members coming in and it was like myself 998 00:58:40,920 --> 00:58:44,819 kind of taking a more back approach and 999 00:58:44,819 --> 00:58:46,619 observing more there's been a lot of 1000 00:58:46,619 --> 00:58:49,380 transition so as these newer individuals 1001 00:58:49,380 --> 00:58:52,140 are understanding these very influential 1002 00:58:52,140 --> 00:58:54,839 roles as Mr Farley highlighted I think 1003 00:58:54,839 --> 00:58:56,760 it is important for us to fully Empower 1004 00:58:56,760 --> 00:59:00,059 them and as he mentioned we can do it in 1005 00:59:00,059 --> 00:59:01,799 our words but then also we need to make 1006 00:59:01,799 --> 00:59:04,619 sure we're doing interactions so I don't 1007 00:59:04,619 --> 00:59:05,940 know what that looks like from a 1008 00:59:05,940 --> 00:59:08,460 monetary standpoint but I definitely it 1009 00:59:08,460 --> 00:59:10,920 would would be willing to support having 1010 00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,140 a separate designation so that it shows 1011 00:59:13,140 --> 00:59:16,559 the community our sincerity with wanting 1012 00:59:16,559 --> 00:59:18,680 to make sure that this 1013 00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:21,720 board has all of its resources to do the 1014 00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,299 work that it's empowered to do by the 1015 00:59:24,299 --> 00:59:28,150 code 1016 00:59:28,160 --> 00:59:33,119 so the 82 000 isn't just for Council it 1017 00:59:33,119 --> 00:59:34,380 would be for 1018 00:59:34,380 --> 00:59:37,370 other 1019 00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:40,140 what would it be for I think it started 1020 00:59:40,140 --> 00:59:42,960 out as 82 000 for a research Council for 1021 00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:50,390 the city council and the um 1022 00:59:50,400 --> 00:59:53,099 for something other than the council 1023 00:59:53,099 --> 00:59:55,020 well that's only have a budget right now 1024 00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:56,460 about the budget that they have is five 1025 00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:59,160 thousand dollars with training and 1026 00:59:59,160 --> 01:00:00,839 travel right which isn't isn't a great 1027 01:00:00,839 --> 01:00:02,760 deal of money for anyone so the city 1028 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:07,200 2000 would be would be for uh for a 1029 01:00:07,200 --> 01:00:09,260 keyboard counselor 1030 01:00:09,260 --> 01:00:12,540 so I I think I I would just like to 1031 01:00:12,540 --> 01:00:14,339 recommend that 1032 01:00:14,339 --> 01:00:16,980 um under the the law Department's budget 1033 01:00:16,980 --> 01:00:19,200 we throw in maybe another thirty 1034 01:00:19,200 --> 01:00:20,700 thousand dollars not a separate line 1035 01:00:20,700 --> 01:00:22,020 item 1036 01:00:22,020 --> 01:00:23,579 um or something like that so there's 1037 01:00:23,579 --> 01:00:25,380 always enough money for them to for the 1038 01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:27,780 council to for the Corporation Council 1039 01:00:27,780 --> 01:00:30,480 to go to this these services and there 1040 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:59,550 it is for them uh 1041 01:00:59,560 --> 01:01:03,789 [Music] 1042 01:01:03,799 --> 01:01:07,140 so we can track the cars the usage and 1043 01:01:07,140 --> 01:01:10,020 see that are we really hiring anybody 1044 01:01:10,020 --> 01:01:13,200 because I don't like it so so we roll up 1045 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,780 to all the expensive service 404 1046 01:01:15,780 --> 01:01:18,119 together because we have it we have the 1047 01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:20,160 issue that the uh when I asked you but 1048 01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:22,559 we have a back and forth with the public 1049 01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,900 safety Foundation where everything was 1050 01:01:24,900 --> 01:01:26,760 rolled out into the fees for surface 1051 01:01:26,760 --> 01:01:29,280 line and how we'll be able to track what 1052 01:01:29,280 --> 01:01:34,040 actually was used Mr Ferrari was able to give us a 1053 01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:36,720 summary of this we don't need that we 1054 01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:38,760 should avoid that if we're funding a 1055 01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,680 line we should try to separate it 1056 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:42,839 especially when it's benefiting our 1057 01:01:42,839 --> 01:01:46,450 community directly 1058 01:01:46,460 --> 01:01:49,980 so if I'm if I'm understanding correctly 1059 01:01:49,980 --> 01:01:52,400 I think this is kind of 1060 01:01:52,400 --> 01:01:55,500 we're in a place right now where it 1061 01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:57,599 seems like what I'm gathering from the 1062 01:01:57,599 --> 01:01:59,819 council just from Gathering is that 1063 01:01:59,819 --> 01:02:02,780 everyone is kind of 1064 01:02:02,780 --> 01:02:06,299 recognizing the importance of such a 1065 01:02:06,299 --> 01:02:08,579 position I think about what we're kind 1066 01:02:08,579 --> 01:02:10,980 of uh going back and forth about is like 1067 01:02:10,980 --> 01:02:12,960 where does the line items sit I think 1068 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,059 that's pretty much it which I'm relieved 1069 01:02:15,059 --> 01:02:16,460 to say that I think that that's you know 1070 01:02:16,460 --> 01:02:18,780 that that's a good place to be to begin 1071 01:02:18,780 --> 01:02:19,740 with 1072 01:02:19,740 --> 01:02:22,500 I would just um 1073 01:02:22,500 --> 01:02:25,880 strongly suggested to my colleagues that 1074 01:02:25,880 --> 01:02:30,059 having a line item designated to 1075 01:02:30,059 --> 01:02:31,440 um something 1076 01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:37,740 um in a specific manner I think that does uh that goes a long way with 1077 01:02:37,740 --> 01:02:39,540 um demonstrating our commitment to the 1078 01:02:39,540 --> 01:02:41,040 important work they do and that would 1079 01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,849 you know 1080 01:02:43,859 --> 01:02:45,780 I would be okay with adding some money 1081 01:02:45,780 --> 01:02:48,720 to that line as as Mr George said as 1082 01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:51,780 well it's fun 1083 01:02:51,780 --> 01:02:54,900 I'd want to see 1084 01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:57,119 I really would want to see like what 1085 01:02:57,119 --> 01:02:59,900 would it be used for um because I think 1086 01:02:59,900 --> 01:03:03,180 you know for Council or for legal legal 1087 01:03:03,180 --> 01:03:05,700 counsel right I mean that would be on a 1088 01:03:05,700 --> 01:03:08,880 um as needed basis so in other words are 1089 01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,160 they going to break it down into 1090 01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:13,079 because it obviously and he's for 1091 01:03:13,079 --> 01:03:14,400 service but I don't even know there's 1092 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,440 probably a way that the accounting 1093 01:03:16,440 --> 01:03:21,130 um 1094 01:03:21,140 --> 01:03:23,160 outside outside 1095 01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:25,020 so maybe if you're looking to separate 1096 01:03:25,020 --> 01:03:27,240 it you do please for a few more and do 1097 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:29,460 an outside legal content online so 1098 01:03:29,460 --> 01:03:30,480 you're going to have a future Services 1099 01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:32,400 where people start to say if you really 1100 01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:42,789 want to designate it and separated 1101 01:03:42,799 --> 01:03:45,540 would set the criteria though for how 1102 01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:47,940 that would be in other words you'd have 1103 01:03:47,940 --> 01:03:49,799 to have some criteria but when you would 1104 01:03:49,799 --> 01:03:51,839 contact that outside counselors they 1105 01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:52,680 can't just 1106 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:55,020 none of us would be that would be like 1107 01:03:55,020 --> 01:03:57,180 me thinking of the phone and saying you 1108 01:03:57,180 --> 01:03:58,880 know 1109 01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:02,339 very bad for the Law Department I mean 1110 01:04:02,339 --> 01:04:03,780 I'm not going to call and you know you 1111 01:04:03,780 --> 01:04:05,000 know what I'm saying 1112 01:04:05,000 --> 01:04:07,380 but it's the first time I'm hearing an 1113 01:04:07,380 --> 01:04:10,440 attorney hasn't been going to review 1114 01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:14,160 board meetings in the past it 1115 01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:16,799 was done as a beginner request places 1116 01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:18,900 sometimes you don't need it sometimes 1117 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:20,520 you don't need it because we're here 1118 01:04:20,520 --> 01:04:23,059 tonight so we're going to do fine okay 1119 01:04:23,059 --> 01:04:26,520 all right in 1120 01:04:26,520 --> 01:04:28,920 the outside Council line 1121 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,859 is used more for 1122 01:04:31,859 --> 01:04:35,819 areas of either an outright conflict or 1123 01:04:35,819 --> 01:04:37,680 looking for some higher level of 1124 01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:39,299 specialization 1125 01:04:39,299 --> 01:04:41,640 where we can't handle it in hell so even 1126 01:04:41,640 --> 01:04:44,880 if this line was there 1127 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:46,740 there's probably going to be most of the 1128 01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:48,599 stuff that the Corporation Council could 1129 01:04:48,599 --> 01:04:49,760 answer 1130 01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,740 provide advice to the board 1131 01:04:52,740 --> 01:04:55,619 within the existing budget is there a 1132 01:04:55,619 --> 01:04:57,780 conflicted position or something else 1133 01:04:57,780 --> 01:04:58,850 you know where we've had 1134 01:04:58,850 --> 01:05:01,859 [Music] 1135 01:05:01,859 --> 01:05:04,079 our closest friend and General Electric 1136 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:07,079 because we haven't been a while but if 1137 01:05:07,079 --> 01:05:09,599 you challenge their assessment that's 1138 01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:11,940 not something that we do in-house we 1139 01:05:11,940 --> 01:05:14,700 learn to bring outside Council some of 1140 01:05:14,700 --> 01:05:17,900 the labor negotiations when we go to uh 1141 01:05:17,900 --> 01:05:21,059 binding arbitration of which we haven't 1142 01:05:21,059 --> 01:05:24,119 recently again we have a relationship 1143 01:05:24,119 --> 01:05:26,040 with the county we provide staff or 1144 01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:31,440 in-house staff to it but the arbitration 1145 01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:34,619 sexual laws highly specialized in we 1146 01:05:34,619 --> 01:05:37,799 bring in firms that are 1147 01:05:37,799 --> 01:05:40,500 trained they do that all the time and 1148 01:05:40,500 --> 01:05:43,020 give us the best advice of it 1149 01:05:43,020 --> 01:05:44,760 again it wouldn't 1150 01:05:44,760 --> 01:05:47,640 it might let them be somewhat driven on 1151 01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,559 what the issue is that's coming before 1152 01:05:49,559 --> 01:05:53,940 the board and who that Council might be 1153 01:05:53,940 --> 01:05:55,260 in 1154 01:05:55,260 --> 01:05:56,819 let's say generally we can we can 1155 01:05:56,819 --> 01:05:58,500 probably handle some 1156 01:05:58,500 --> 01:06:01,260 in-house and do it with a high level of 1157 01:06:01,260 --> 01:06:03,480 confidence of the board is happy with 1158 01:06:03,480 --> 01:06:05,640 the representation information they're 1159 01:06:05,640 --> 01:06:08,120 getting 1160 01:06:08,130 --> 01:06:10,099 [Music] 1161 01:06:10,099 --> 01:06:12,480 I don't think that thank God we're 1162 01:06:12,480 --> 01:06:14,400 talking about it either or I was I would 1163 01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,799 just say that it would be uh yes and so 1164 01:06:16,799 --> 01:06:19,619 and I'm like yes a week obviously even 1165 01:06:19,619 --> 01:06:21,960 if like to the point that line items 1166 01:06:21,960 --> 01:06:23,099 available 1167 01:06:23,099 --> 01:06:24,900 um if it's something that we can handle 1168 01:06:24,900 --> 01:06:27,180 without having to use those funds then 1169 01:06:27,180 --> 01:06:29,339 let's do that right that's just the 1170 01:06:29,339 --> 01:06:30,839 responsible to do that 1171 01:06:30,839 --> 01:06:32,760 but then I also think that then there's 1172 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:35,400 that value of having that 1173 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,260 um that when I'm there 1174 01:06:37,260 --> 01:06:41,579 if in case that it is needed it's there 1175 01:06:41,579 --> 01:06:43,680 and the people who serve on that board 1176 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,780 who know that it's there they understand 1177 01:06:45,780 --> 01:06:47,700 that's that's there for them as 1178 01:06:47,700 --> 01:06:49,559 designated man again I think that goes a 1179 01:06:49,559 --> 01:06:51,000 long way 1180 01:06:51,000 --> 01:06:52,559 um but just type in the language that 1181 01:06:52,559 --> 01:06:55,500 we've been um you know the way we've 1182 01:06:55,500 --> 01:06:56,520 been speaking 1183 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:57,299 um 1184 01:06:57,299 --> 01:07:00,000 and and kind of the real commitment that 1185 01:07:00,000 --> 01:07:02,460 we need to the community around us 1186 01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:03,500 um I don't 1187 01:07:03,500 --> 01:07:05,819 think that we need to kind of think back 1188 01:07:05,819 --> 01:07:08,700 to why we're in the position to have 1189 01:07:08,700 --> 01:07:10,020 such a board 1190 01:07:10,020 --> 01:07:15,119 um and you know across our country and I don't want to just look like we're 1191 01:07:15,119 --> 01:07:16,680 being 1192 01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:18,960 just paying lip service to it which 1193 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,480 again again for a record I don't think 1194 01:07:21,480 --> 01:07:24,119 anyone's saying that 1195 01:07:24,119 --> 01:07:25,740 can I just ask a question because it 1196 01:07:25,740 --> 01:07:28,069 sounds 1197 01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:31,319 in the mirror there was an attorney that 1198 01:07:31,319 --> 01:07:32,700 used to in other words somebody from our 1199 01:07:32,700 --> 01:07:35,220 Corporation Council yeah one of us used 1200 01:07:35,220 --> 01:07:36,900 to go regularly when she was on the 1201 01:07:36,900 --> 01:07:39,420 board like many years ago yes we used to 1202 01:07:39,420 --> 01:07:41,099 have an attorney every everything from 1203 01:07:41,099 --> 01:07:43,460 the corporation from the corporation 1204 01:07:43,460 --> 01:07:46,440 a few years ago I should ask the 1205 01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:47,480 question 1206 01:07:47,480 --> 01:07:50,039 yeah I think we should then I asked a 1207 01:07:50,039 --> 01:07:50,880 question 1208 01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:52,680 um no attorney here and they were like 1209 01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:54,900 no but I didn't dive into it and then I 1210 01:07:54,900 --> 01:08:04,400 was like no attorney anymore 1211 01:08:04,410 --> 01:08:11,289 [Music] 1212 01:08:11,299 --> 01:08:13,140 which is 1213 01:08:13,140 --> 01:08:14,819 just a matter of course that that would 1214 01:08:14,819 --> 01:08:18,000 happen it's probably no yeah but again I 1215 01:08:18,000 --> 01:08:20,040 don't think it's either I think that we 1216 01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:22,259 have the capacity to support them 1217 01:08:22,259 --> 01:08:24,060 um at their regular meetings 1218 01:08:24,060 --> 01:08:26,520 um through Corporation Council let's do 1219 01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:29,400 that cost us 1220 01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:31,620 nothing not just there right so let's do 1221 01:08:31,620 --> 01:08:33,359 that that's something we should do and 1222 01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,400 let's make sure that they're 1223 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,400 um uh have the resources that they need 1224 01:08:38,400 --> 01:08:42,299 um in in the case that they do need a an 1225 01:08:42,299 --> 01:08:45,179 outside Council let's do both because 1226 01:08:45,179 --> 01:08:46,560 they won't spend it if they don't need 1227 01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:48,359 it it's there and therefore we can kind 1228 01:08:48,359 --> 01:08:49,620 of Remedy what's happening right now 1229 01:08:49,620 --> 01:08:51,420 in-house and I think that that checks 1230 01:08:51,420 --> 01:08:53,400 all about people talking about yeah 1231 01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:56,160 I think it's just as simple as Talent 1232 01:08:56,160 --> 01:08:58,759 whoever Charities like 1233 01:08:58,759 --> 01:09:02,279 the City attorney will be there if you 1234 01:09:02,279 --> 01:09:06,299 need something further just request it I 1235 01:09:06,299 --> 01:09:07,620 mean no one's 1236 01:09:07,620 --> 01:09:09,420 I don't think any of us are going to say 1237 01:09:09,420 --> 01:09:12,000 you know when are they yeah yeah but I 1238 01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:13,920 was uncomfortable almost every case that 1239 01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:16,140 we reviewed we will refer to the 1240 01:09:16,140 --> 01:09:21,010 attorney for some admission guidance 1241 01:09:21,020 --> 01:09:24,239 here sometimes clarification can we do 1242 01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:25,799 this can we now do this things like that 1243 01:09:25,799 --> 01:09:27,359 no you can't you can't get this you 1244 01:09:27,359 --> 01:09:29,219 can't get that so they're right there 1245 01:09:29,219 --> 01:09:31,319 and they're getting their answers we 1246 01:09:31,319 --> 01:09:33,000 were getting our answers to too many 1247 01:09:33,000 --> 01:09:34,440 questions and you thought that was 1248 01:09:34,440 --> 01:09:36,500 happening also yeah 1249 01:09:36,500 --> 01:09:38,640 what's up 1250 01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:42,359 I'm not sure if there's a step that in 1251 01:09:42,359 --> 01:09:45,420 every meeting basis but it has need 1252 01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:47,640 basis 1253 01:09:47,640 --> 01:09:50,880 again sometimes the board handles what 1254 01:09:50,880 --> 01:09:52,500 I'll call a routine and things and 1255 01:09:52,500 --> 01:09:53,940 problems are better than other times 1256 01:09:53,940 --> 01:09:56,820 they're more complex issues that come 1257 01:09:56,820 --> 01:09:59,219 before it and they're 1258 01:09:59,219 --> 01:10:00,960 more complicated and required more 1259 01:10:00,960 --> 01:10:05,030 in-depth analysis of The View 1260 01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,679 I mean we're looking at industrial 1261 01:10:07,679 --> 01:10:10,280 reference for looking at 2000 here 1262 01:10:10,280 --> 01:10:13,260 originally was recently Albany Police 1263 01:10:13,260 --> 01:10:15,360 recovery is asking for Two Plus million 1264 01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:19,320 dollars so I'm just thrown at two 1265 01:10:19,320 --> 01:10:23,520 thousand versus 2.22 million yeah so 1266 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:28,030 we're very difficult for our questions 1267 01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:31,380 we can actually uh why not we hire them 1268 01:10:31,380 --> 01:10:33,060 on beta return eighty two thousand 1269 01:10:33,060 --> 01:10:35,890 dollars 1270 01:10:35,900 --> 01:10:38,580 well approving 82 000 and give it to 1271 01:10:38,580 --> 01:10:44,350 them so be a contract 1272 01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:46,560 there are 1273 01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:48,179 yes we need it 1274 01:10:48,179 --> 01:10:51,610 for how much money 1275 01:10:51,620 --> 01:10:54,000 yeah so that's where it's right now yeah 1276 01:10:54,000 --> 01:10:56,400 I think I'm really important we have we 1277 01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:58,340 have the police review board has a line 1278 01:10:58,340 --> 01:11:00,960 the law department has a line for feed 1279 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,580 where do we put 1280 01:11:02,580 --> 01:11:04,199 um if you wouldn't mind just explain me 1281 01:11:04,199 --> 01:11:08,950 that one more time because the way 1282 01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:12,840 to review more questions so I don't see 1283 01:11:12,840 --> 01:11:15,600 why not I mean if 1284 01:11:15,600 --> 01:11:18,179 outside legal services are under that 1285 01:11:18,179 --> 01:11:19,739 especially if you want a chess game 1286 01:11:19,739 --> 01:11:22,560 separated it's not for that purpose um 1287 01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:24,719 if not I mean it's under the lawn 1288 01:11:24,719 --> 01:11:26,640 department that makes sense that way too 1289 01:11:26,640 --> 01:11:28,140 it really it's really up to the council 1290 01:11:28,140 --> 01:11:30,239 you guys want to do it but either way I 1291 01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:31,679 think it would work 1292 01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:33,659 yeah I think I think the best idea 1293 01:11:33,659 --> 01:11:35,699 because we already have a police review 1294 01:11:35,699 --> 01:11:37,020 board line 1295 01:11:37,020 --> 01:11:39,320 I my recommendations disappointed there 1296 01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,960 as a four four 1297 01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:46,560 with 440 yeah 44 Israel and have that 1298 01:11:46,560 --> 01:11:48,540 separated so we can track the Cars track 1299 01:11:48,540 --> 01:11:51,540 the usage but you know so yeah because 1300 01:11:51,540 --> 01:11:53,159 if we're going to put money there we 1301 01:11:53,159 --> 01:11:55,500 then there needs to be some news station 1302 01:11:55,500 --> 01:11:57,179 if it's not usually we need to subtract 1303 01:11:57,179 --> 01:11:59,100 it so next year we know that 1304 01:11:59,100 --> 01:12:01,560 we're gonna use them from this Navigator 1305 01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,300 2000 then we don't need to fund it in 1306 01:12:03,300 --> 01:12:06,669 2000. 1307 01:12:06,679 --> 01:12:10,199 set up something though and I mean dates 1308 01:12:10,199 --> 01:12:11,940 have to have input in our Corporation 1309 01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:14,520 Council I'm not saying us set it up but 1310 01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,860 I mean you know somebody from the police 1311 01:12:16,860 --> 01:12:18,659 review board and the Corporation Council 1312 01:12:18,659 --> 01:12:21,300 if you need and say and maybe the 1313 01:12:21,300 --> 01:12:24,300 commissioner but to say here's what this 1314 01:12:24,300 --> 01:12:26,940 would be used for versus here's what you 1315 01:12:26,940 --> 01:12:30,239 would do with the attorney that we don't 1316 01:12:30,239 --> 01:12:32,880 have to pay any money for from our own 1317 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:34,920 um office you know what I mean like just 1318 01:12:34,920 --> 01:12:36,840 so that there's some sort of I guess 1319 01:12:36,840 --> 01:12:38,760 that unless it's already in the Bible of 1320 01:12:38,760 --> 01:12:40,920 the civilian police Review Board in 1321 01:12:40,920 --> 01:12:42,540 terms of what when they would go to an 1322 01:12:42,540 --> 01:12:44,159 outside Council 1323 01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:48,370 Etc I don't know 1324 01:12:48,380 --> 01:12:51,600 I'm talking about um our in our city 1325 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:54,120 code it's not spelled out like that uh 1326 01:12:54,120 --> 01:12:55,560 it just says that they have the 1327 01:12:55,560 --> 01:12:59,460 opportunity to do that so and I to me to 1328 01:12:59,460 --> 01:13:01,260 me would be a case-by-case basis it's 1329 01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:03,600 you know you don't know until you get to 1330 01:13:03,600 --> 01:13:06,719 the case whether you there's a thought 1331 01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:08,040 that there's an hour 1332 01:13:08,040 --> 01:13:10,820 um there's a thought that there may be a 1333 01:13:10,820 --> 01:13:13,320 conflicts is that so I believe it took a 1334 01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,440 case-by-case basis so if the Corp if 1335 01:13:16,440 --> 01:13:19,460 somebody from our own office was there 1336 01:13:19,460 --> 01:13:21,960 and then they would have they would 1337 01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:23,340 probably say 1338 01:13:23,340 --> 01:13:25,140 okay this is something that we need 1339 01:13:25,140 --> 01:13:27,360 outside console do you see what I'm 1340 01:13:27,360 --> 01:13:28,440 saying I do understand what you're 1341 01:13:28,440 --> 01:13:30,360 saying yeah I mean I wouldn't have the 1342 01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,520 legal expertise if I was a volunteer I'm 1343 01:13:32,520 --> 01:13:35,360 a civilian police review board 1344 01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:38,159 I don't I wouldn't have the legal 1345 01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:40,560 expertise to be able to know whether I 1346 01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,360 needed outside counsel or whether I 1347 01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,760 needed you know 1348 01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:47,040 I'm just trying to save a little money 1349 01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:50,159 I hear the concept of why it's needed I 1350 01:13:50,159 --> 01:13:51,719 get that 1351 01:13:51,719 --> 01:13:54,480 um I just I don't wanna I I wouldn't 1352 01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:55,860 want so 1353 01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:57,840 I wouldn't want to get into a place 1354 01:13:57,840 --> 01:14:00,540 where we're kind of like 1355 01:14:00,540 --> 01:14:04,140 you know micromanaging 1356 01:14:04,140 --> 01:14:08,410 the task of that board right 1357 01:14:08,420 --> 01:14:13,380 so so I just I so I I would be really in 1358 01:14:13,380 --> 01:14:17,340 favor of putting you know less barriers 1359 01:14:17,340 --> 01:14:19,560 um in front of them to access the 1360 01:14:19,560 --> 01:14:21,719 resources that they need to do that very 1361 01:14:21,719 --> 01:14:24,780 important job I I but that's the 1362 01:14:24,780 --> 01:14:26,100 probably the only you know what I mean 1363 01:14:26,100 --> 01:14:27,780 that's what I'm saying like since we all 1364 01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:31,440 agree that it's there's money there should be money there if we're 1365 01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:32,699 just talking about where we're going to 1366 01:14:32,699 --> 01:14:35,040 place it I think we really need to 1367 01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,980 places where it needs to go to say hey 1368 01:14:37,980 --> 01:14:40,920 this is for you to do to use it as you 1369 01:14:40,920 --> 01:14:42,900 need it now I mean if you think that 1370 01:14:42,900 --> 01:14:44,280 people on the board are going to be like 1371 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:47,100 you know maybe using their 1372 01:14:47,100 --> 01:14:49,679 Council budget for like you know 1373 01:14:49,679 --> 01:14:52,670 closing on their house or something 1374 01:14:52,670 --> 01:14:55,280 [Music] 1375 01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:58,620 but you know if we have we trust them to 1376 01:14:58,620 --> 01:15:00,239 serve in that capacity 1377 01:15:00,239 --> 01:15:12,060 I don't want the board members have any conversations 1378 01:15:12,060 --> 01:15:14,699 with commissioner Devine 1379 01:15:14,699 --> 01:15:19,260 yo I heard him because of his broad 1380 01:15:19,260 --> 01:15:21,840 background and experience those public 1381 01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:23,239 defender 1382 01:15:23,239 --> 01:15:26,820 nominee was a private attorney Supreme 1383 01:15:26,820 --> 01:15:29,340 Court Judge at pellet division 1384 01:15:29,340 --> 01:15:31,699 uh were 1385 01:15:31,699 --> 01:15:35,100 really lucky to have that skill set and 1386 01:15:35,100 --> 01:15:37,620 available to us and you know if there's 1387 01:15:37,620 --> 01:15:42,000 issues or things that come up 1388 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:44,640 people should reach out to them and 1389 01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,420 it you know judge your items before him 1390 01:15:47,420 --> 01:15:50,159 it also sets the tone within the 1391 01:15:50,159 --> 01:15:53,100 department where we don't tolerate 1392 01:15:53,100 --> 01:15:55,800 people making poor choices and things 1393 01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:58,080 that are incorrect for Improv 1394 01:15:58,080 --> 01:16:00,179 and I and I think I'll definitely 1395 01:16:00,179 --> 01:16:03,540 because when the people I spoke to I 1396 01:16:03,540 --> 01:16:05,460 didn't meet that recommendation and that 1397 01:16:05,460 --> 01:16:07,080 means I definitely do that moving 1398 01:16:07,080 --> 01:16:09,900 forward I think that that's something to 1399 01:16:09,900 --> 01:16:11,060 do as well 1400 01:16:11,060 --> 01:16:13,739 so listening to everyone's feet there's 1401 01:16:13,739 --> 01:16:15,719 a number of different options that we 1402 01:16:15,719 --> 01:16:18,360 are presenting to this review board that 1403 01:16:18,360 --> 01:16:20,460 would significantly benefit their 1404 01:16:20,460 --> 01:16:23,060 long-term success so as the Public 1405 01:16:23,060 --> 01:16:25,260 Safety Committee chair and take 1406 01:16:25,260 --> 01:16:27,659 responsibility for making sure that the 1407 01:16:27,659 --> 01:16:29,699 civilian police review board chair is 1408 01:16:29,699 --> 01:16:31,620 aware and then I can kind of coordinate 1409 01:16:31,620 --> 01:16:33,840 and facilitate so that our Corporation 1410 01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,179 Council has that close conversation with 1411 01:16:36,179 --> 01:16:38,040 them because this very much is going to 1412 01:16:38,040 --> 01:16:39,900 be like training wheels like learning 1413 01:16:39,900 --> 01:16:42,719 how to acclimate all of these resources 1414 01:16:42,719 --> 01:16:44,400 for the benefit of their tasks and 1415 01:16:44,400 --> 01:16:48,060 duties so definitely I I'm in support of 1416 01:16:48,060 --> 01:16:51,060 the game Mr Farley beats it to a nauseum 1417 01:16:51,060 --> 01:16:52,560 and and all right is that what he's 1418 01:16:52,560 --> 01:16:56,400 saying to work yes but 1419 01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,620 um it's how do we incorporate this into 1420 01:16:58,620 --> 01:17:01,080 our daily like work practices because if 1421 01:17:01,080 --> 01:17:02,940 you don't use it you essentially like 1422 01:17:02,940 --> 01:17:06,600 lose it in a sense so if for me per se 1423 01:17:06,600 --> 01:17:08,219 if it's truly 1424 01:17:08,219 --> 01:17:10,739 how do we support you and what is 1425 01:17:10,739 --> 01:17:12,719 designated in the code 1426 01:17:12,719 --> 01:17:19,330 that is this 1427 01:17:19,340 --> 01:17:21,780 service I think it's appropriate that we 1428 01:17:21,780 --> 01:17:23,100 can 1429 01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,699 add a line under the Earth 1430 01:17:25,699 --> 01:17:28,440 to place that Media or whatever we 1431 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:31,739 decide on so I think we should move 1432 01:17:31,739 --> 01:17:33,540 forward we have an understanding and yes 1433 01:17:33,540 --> 01:17:36,120 it's needed how much is needed I will 1434 01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:37,860 leave that for next Wednesday when we 1435 01:17:37,860 --> 01:17:40,610 come back to the last minute yeah 1436 01:17:40,610 --> 01:17:41,960 [Music] 1437 01:17:41,960 --> 01:17:44,040 unless we want to give a number right 1438 01:17:44,040 --> 01:17:46,140 down and pass it out I think that this 1439 01:17:46,140 --> 01:17:47,880 seems to be a Hot Topic a big budget 1440 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:48,739 yeah 1441 01:17:48,739 --> 01:17:50,520 someplace else 1442 01:17:50,520 --> 01:17:54,600 we need to have a number that 1443 01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:57,420 um both Anthony and the mayor would be 1444 01:17:57,420 --> 01:18:00,719 coming back to us with you know 1445 01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:02,520 I mean we have seen over the years that 1446 01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:03,719 he had 1447 01:18:03,719 --> 01:18:06,480 came to us requesting funds they accept 1448 01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:09,360 the documents first they asked us all 1449 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,340 the time you know budget and things that 1450 01:18:11,340 --> 01:18:13,739 and wanted a more additional support 1451 01:18:13,739 --> 01:18:14,940 staff 1452 01:18:14,940 --> 01:18:16,560 he's eighteen thousand dollars enough 1453 01:18:16,560 --> 01:18:19,080 for them to carry out the function that 1454 01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:20,640 they need to 1455 01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,400 I don't think so 1456 01:18:22,400 --> 01:18:25,080 we gotta started so we have to start 1457 01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,480 somewhere to give them some funding to 1458 01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:30,360 help them with our we can give them I 1459 01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,580 just want to be clear the 82 000 is only 1460 01:18:32,580 --> 01:18:34,739 for outside Council period nothing else 1461 01:18:34,739 --> 01:18:36,679 right 1462 01:18:36,679 --> 01:18:40,679 okay okay because the reason I'm saying 1463 01:18:40,679 --> 01:18:43,860 that is that we've um we put 100 000 to 1464 01:18:43,860 --> 01:18:46,140 our legal department which uses outside 1465 01:18:46,140 --> 01:18:47,460 Council a little bit more because 1466 01:18:47,460 --> 01:18:50,760 initially it was put in here as 1467 01:18:50,760 --> 01:18:52,199 also worked with the city council but 1468 01:18:52,199 --> 01:18:54,360 clearly that's off the table I mean I 1469 01:18:54,360 --> 01:18:56,640 don't I'm just right 1470 01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,330 it wasn't said it but 1471 01:18:59,340 --> 01:19:01,620 so I'm asking are you saying that that's 1472 01:19:01,620 --> 01:19:03,679 not something that means 1473 01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:06,960 I understand your question so initially 1474 01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,000 it was putting here to 1475 01:19:09,000 --> 01:19:11,219 um research Council and said for the 1476 01:19:11,219 --> 01:19:13,260 city council and the cprb and now we're 1477 01:19:13,260 --> 01:19:20,320 taking the city council out of that 1478 01:19:20,330 --> 01:19:25,030 [Music] 1479 01:19:25,040 --> 01:19:27,239 because we can't put city council into 1480 01:19:27,239 --> 01:19:29,640 cprb right but what I was saying is that 1481 01:19:29,640 --> 01:19:32,699 so if it's the same way like we have you 1482 01:19:32,699 --> 01:19:34,860 know split 1483 01:19:34,860 --> 01:19:38,640 uh lines and so this person 1484 01:19:38,640 --> 01:19:40,080 um uh 1485 01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:43,380 0.5 is on a border of course if I were 1486 01:19:43,380 --> 01:19:44,400 in the sewer right we see that happen 1487 01:19:44,400 --> 01:19:46,440 multiple times on the budget right so 1488 01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:47,640 then that would make some schools just 1489 01:19:47,640 --> 01:19:51,420 like that I'm just saying that that 1490 01:19:51,420 --> 01:19:54,000 a portion of that budget line needs to 1491 01:19:54,000 --> 01:19:55,620 be designated to that police community 1492 01:19:55,620 --> 01:19:58,739 board it needs to sit there I think that is 1493 01:19:58,739 --> 01:20:01,500 the commitment okay I was having a 1494 01:20:01,500 --> 01:20:02,699 different understanding I thought that 1495 01:20:02,699 --> 01:20:04,080 we had taken city council off the table 1496 01:20:04,080 --> 01:20:05,820 that was whatever I was the only person 1497 01:20:05,820 --> 01:20:07,440 that you said that 1498 01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,120 I think Carly has given an opinion okay 1499 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,679 we haven't heard from everybody else 1500 01:20:10,679 --> 01:20:13,080 around whether they think the city 1501 01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:15,960 councils are okay is needed I personally 1502 01:20:15,960 --> 01:20:18,420 think we have the Corporation Council 1503 01:20:18,420 --> 01:20:21,300 and for the times that I've needed 1504 01:20:21,300 --> 01:20:23,699 a legal question answered or you know 1505 01:20:23,699 --> 01:20:25,199 I've gone to him I'm trying to think of 1506 01:20:25,199 --> 01:20:28,140 a specific example to say to say oh you 1507 01:20:28,140 --> 01:20:31,500 know is this something we can do in um 1508 01:20:31,500 --> 01:20:33,420 in the meeting or do we need to go into 1509 01:20:33,420 --> 01:20:34,980 executive session or something like that 1510 01:20:34,980 --> 01:20:37,460 I've been making that up I'm just saying 1511 01:20:37,460 --> 01:20:40,260 those kinds of things are the only times 1512 01:20:40,260 --> 01:20:41,880 that I 1513 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:43,739 you know I think I sat with him early on 1514 01:20:43,739 --> 01:20:45,659 to hear a little bit more about sure oh 1515 01:20:45,659 --> 01:20:47,699 during the police review 1516 01:20:47,699 --> 01:20:50,760 police transformation process 1517 01:20:50,760 --> 01:20:51,900 um I asked some questions about 1518 01:20:51,900 --> 01:20:54,239 redaction I want to talk about about 1519 01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:57,060 that during that time like I asked you 1520 01:20:57,060 --> 01:20:58,699 know when everyone said 1521 01:20:58,699 --> 01:21:01,020 understood their process I mean we 1522 01:21:01,020 --> 01:21:04,020 talked to the staff about that but it's 1523 01:21:04,020 --> 01:21:06,239 been very rare for me 1524 01:21:06,239 --> 01:21:08,360 um in these three years to have to 1525 01:21:08,360 --> 01:21:10,860 Andrew's been able to 1526 01:21:10,860 --> 01:21:13,140 help me in whatever way I need to help 1527 01:21:13,140 --> 01:21:15,179 but that's just me I mean I don't know 1528 01:21:15,179 --> 01:21:18,360 what the rest of you feel 1529 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,600 I mean I don't have an issue on having a 1530 01:21:21,600 --> 01:21:24,360 research Council 1531 01:21:24,360 --> 01:21:26,580 assist the city council whatever the 1532 01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:29,820 need is and also assess the police 1533 01:21:29,820 --> 01:21:31,860 review board 1534 01:21:31,860 --> 01:21:36,110 I always feel either too 1535 01:21:36,120 --> 01:21:37,620 we just figuring out where the money 1536 01:21:37,620 --> 01:21:39,659 goes but 1537 01:21:39,659 --> 01:21:41,699 I don't know 1538 01:21:41,699 --> 01:21:45,370 uh 1539 01:21:45,380 --> 01:21:47,100 [Music] 1540 01:21:47,100 --> 01:21:49,800 partial uh split there I want to have 1541 01:21:49,800 --> 01:21:51,600 technical it'll have to be two lines one 1542 01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:53,280 on the police review board and one of 1543 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,260 the city council 1544 01:21:55,260 --> 01:21:58,260 uh divided go ahead please I don't think 1545 01:21:58,260 --> 01:22:01,800 we need one uh as a council if we do we 1546 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:04,860 request the fees for services if it's 1547 01:22:04,860 --> 01:22:06,120 denied 1548 01:22:06,120 --> 01:22:10,080 we do the budget we have maybe we we 1549 01:22:10,080 --> 01:22:12,780 changed it and we hire our own you know 1550 01:22:12,780 --> 01:22:15,860 as a as a consultant as as we need so 1551 01:22:15,860 --> 01:22:18,300 you know so we have a hundred thousand 1552 01:22:18,300 --> 01:22:20,760 dollars and there he only uses 60 or 80. 1553 01:22:20,760 --> 01:22:22,699 so 1554 01:22:22,699 --> 01:22:28,739 he can handle 92 probably 98 or more of 1555 01:22:28,739 --> 01:22:31,020 the cprv stuff 1556 01:22:31,020 --> 01:22:33,840 why won't you put like 10 or 15 1557 01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:35,219 000 to start 1558 01:22:35,219 --> 01:22:39,300 under cprb for lawyer fees see how it is 1559 01:22:39,300 --> 01:22:41,760 if they need more they ask for it will 1560 01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:45,530 approve it 1561 01:22:45,540 --> 01:22:48,239 two things I would say for that one well 1562 01:22:48,239 --> 01:22:50,699 I have a question to use in like if we 1563 01:22:50,699 --> 01:22:53,640 requested something that was denied 1564 01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,739 yes so 1565 01:22:55,739 --> 01:22:58,739 if we go to Andrew we're not satisfied 1566 01:22:58,739 --> 01:23:02,400 and we say we need outside counsel and 1567 01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,480 somehow Andrew doesn't do it or whatever 1568 01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:09,320 which I'm not sure 1569 01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,100 that was the point I was trying to 1570 01:23:11,100 --> 01:23:14,280 figure out I'm just saying worst case 1571 01:23:14,280 --> 01:23:16,520 scenario okay okay 1572 01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:20,159 Council and say we need 25 000 I'm 1573 01:23:20,159 --> 01:23:22,980 making up a little yeah sure 25 000 to 1574 01:23:22,980 --> 01:23:26,520 hire a council to handle X thing for us 1575 01:23:26,520 --> 01:23:28,800 and we approve 1576 01:23:28,800 --> 01:23:31,560 and I would take the money out of the 1577 01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:33,780 fees for services if we're going to put 1578 01:23:33,780 --> 01:23:37,020 I think 10 or 15 take it off Easter 1579 01:23:37,020 --> 01:23:39,420 services for a legal department and put 1580 01:23:39,420 --> 01:23:42,060 it under that makes sense and a man has 1581 01:23:42,060 --> 01:23:44,239 to prove that that contract 1582 01:23:44,239 --> 01:24:10,610 that consultant agreement yesterday 1583 01:24:10,620 --> 01:24:18,490 here 1584 01:24:18,500 --> 01:24:21,620 so we're leaving it 1585 01:24:21,620 --> 01:24:23,840 are we just leaving 1586 01:24:23,840 --> 01:24:26,120 my suggestion 1587 01:24:26,120 --> 01:24:29,640 that please 1588 01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:31,320 split 1589 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:36,080 the 0.5 for the civilian or police 1590 01:24:36,080 --> 01:24:39,000 fire for a city council that was my 1591 01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,840 suggestion have to say so essentially it 1592 01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:44,820 really boils down to that we take 82 1593 01:24:44,820 --> 01:24:47,880 divided by 2 and put half the cprb in 1594 01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:49,560 half from the city council is that what 1595 01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:53,159 you're yes I mean uh the for the whole 1596 01:24:53,159 --> 01:24:54,659 city they're using 100 000 if you're 1597 01:24:54,659 --> 01:24:56,580 doing specifically for two things maybe 1598 01:24:56,580 --> 01:25:04,930 you want to do 50 and 25 and 25. 1599 01:25:04,940 --> 01:25:07,440 before we could think of it like this 1600 01:25:07,440 --> 01:25:09,300 because I think that it might even be a 1601 01:25:09,300 --> 01:25:10,620 little more fiscally as possible to do 1602 01:25:10,620 --> 01:25:12,659 it this way if the whole budget is 100 1603 01:25:12,659 --> 01:25:15,120 Grand but we're only using 60 of it 1604 01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:17,699 in-house then we can take that remaining 1605 01:25:17,699 --> 01:25:20,760 40 of it and then put 20 of it into for 1606 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,219 city council and 20 over 40 Police 1607 01:25:23,219 --> 01:25:24,080 Department 1608 01:25:24,080 --> 01:25:26,880 until not add another 82. is that what 1609 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,580 you're saying yeah if we're only using 1610 01:25:29,580 --> 01:25:31,500 sixty thousand dollars out of a hundred 1611 01:25:31,500 --> 01:25:33,260 right right 1612 01:25:33,260 --> 01:25:36,120 so so therefore user will not take more 1613 01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:36,980 money 1614 01:25:36,980 --> 01:25:39,600 some years it will shift as a 1615 01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,510 negotiations 1616 01:25:41,510 --> 01:25:45,199 [Music] 1617 01:25:45,199 --> 01:25:48,960 but I think so but 1618 01:25:48,960 --> 01:25:51,370 yeah 1619 01:25:51,380 --> 01:25:55,629 so I 1620 01:25:55,639 --> 01:25:58,620 we just add a little bit more to it um I 1621 01:25:58,620 --> 01:26:00,780 don't I agree that maybe if we took away 1622 01:26:00,780 --> 01:26:04,679 from 100 000 then they may go over 1623 01:26:04,679 --> 01:26:07,679 um so but we definitely need to land on 1624 01:26:07,679 --> 01:26:10,139 the space Okay so 1625 01:26:10,139 --> 01:26:13,500 uh Mr Ferrari had a good idea and split 1626 01:26:13,500 --> 01:26:16,320 it in two lanes 1627 01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:20,880 as a counselor one under police review 1628 01:26:20,880 --> 01:26:22,440 and 1629 01:26:22,440 --> 01:26:24,659 enjoy that looked at historically I 1630 01:26:24,659 --> 01:26:26,820 won't agree to cut our Originals or to 1631 01:26:26,820 --> 01:26:30,120 add-ons for the Law Department if you 1632 01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:31,920 look historically the line go up or down 1633 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:34,920 and they were to keep outside console 1634 01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:37,860 and do not have enough money so we need 1635 01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:39,800 to add 1636 01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:44,159 more service at the same time that's my 1637 01:26:44,159 --> 01:26:55,149 recommendation yeah 1638 01:26:55,159 --> 01:26:58,380 split it there we go let's get over this 1639 01:26:58,380 --> 01:27:00,130 yes 1640 01:27:00,130 --> 01:27:02,900 [Music] 1641 01:27:02,900 --> 01:27:06,540 under 440 outside legal outside legal 1642 01:27:06,540 --> 01:27:07,520 services 1643 01:27:07,520 --> 01:27:10,320 or next year when you come back to do 1644 01:27:10,320 --> 01:27:12,199 the budget you'll have an idea of what's 1645 01:27:12,199 --> 01:27:14,699 but it doesn't doesn't mean reason why I 1646 01:27:14,699 --> 01:27:18,239 want it to be to have it separated and 1647 01:27:18,239 --> 01:27:19,739 this while we found the cprb I think 1648 01:27:19,739 --> 01:27:21,600 that they also it actually was requested 1649 01:27:21,600 --> 01:27:24,120 that our corporate Council and perhaps 1650 01:27:24,120 --> 01:27:26,219 our Public Safety chair kind of come and 1651 01:27:26,219 --> 01:27:30,300 go over what the code actually said that you do they 1652 01:27:30,300 --> 01:27:31,800 was actually a discussion where they 1653 01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:35,280 wanted to not be a part of May poll when 1654 01:27:35,280 --> 01:27:36,780 clearly our um 1655 01:27:36,780 --> 01:27:38,400 our legislation said they should be so 1656 01:27:38,400 --> 01:27:40,080 that's going to be requests don't send 1657 01:27:40,080 --> 01:27:41,820 you email specifically about them and 1658 01:27:41,820 --> 01:27:43,800 can I add those in terms of thank you 1659 01:27:43,800 --> 01:27:45,480 for saying you want to take the lead on 1660 01:27:45,480 --> 01:27:47,639 this but I would recommend you know 1661 01:27:47,639 --> 01:27:49,199 maybe including the commissioner as well 1662 01:27:49,199 --> 01:27:51,719 as the mayor suggested when you talk 1663 01:27:51,719 --> 01:27:53,159 with them 1664 01:27:53,159 --> 01:27:56,760 cprb internet Council absolutely so I 1665 01:27:56,760 --> 01:27:58,139 mean that sounds very good I guess I 1666 01:27:58,139 --> 01:28:02,350 think that's a big part of his role 1667 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:06,790 you know 1668 01:28:06,800 --> 01:28:09,120 all right so I think we're finally 1669 01:28:09,120 --> 01:28:12,139 moving on let's move on to any other 1670 01:28:12,139 --> 01:28:15,239 item that we need to discuss it's a 1671 01:28:15,239 --> 01:28:18,470 Friday evening 1672 01:28:18,480 --> 01:28:20,480 [Music] 1673 01:28:20,480 --> 01:28:23,639 the water sewer and trash eliminating 1674 01:28:23,639 --> 01:28:26,820 the increase in the fees 1675 01:28:26,820 --> 01:28:30,360 I mean I just wanted to hear I don't you 1676 01:28:30,360 --> 01:28:31,440 know 1677 01:28:31,440 --> 01:28:33,480 I mean it seemed like we needed to 1678 01:28:33,480 --> 01:28:35,699 increase those fees so I I don't know I 1679 01:28:35,699 --> 01:28:40,510 just wanted to hear what that was about 1680 01:28:40,520 --> 01:28:43,139 I mean what would be the total revenue 1681 01:28:43,139 --> 01:28:45,540 that we would lose well just out of fees 1682 01:28:45,540 --> 01:28:49,620 1.1 million general fund yeah I believe 1683 01:28:49,620 --> 01:28:51,980 it's uh 1684 01:28:51,980 --> 01:28:55,679 can you repeat that 1.1 we are 1.1 1685 01:28:55,679 --> 01:28:57,020 million 1686 01:28:57,020 --> 01:29:01,500 for the garbage yeah uh the water is 1687 01:29:01,500 --> 01:29:08,290 soaring not the numbers 1688 01:29:08,300 --> 01:29:13,020 right here it is so it's uh we reduce 1689 01:29:13,020 --> 01:29:17,880 water by 426 000 but sooner by 773 1690 01:29:17,880 --> 01:29:20,580 thousand seven hundred and seventy three 1691 01:29:20,580 --> 01:29:25,370 thousand thirty two dollars 1692 01:29:25,380 --> 01:29:32,480 basically another 1.1 and uh and also you're looking to reduce uh 1693 01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:45,310 property tax by one percent another 300 1694 01:29:45,320 --> 01:29:52,080 that's 310 629 right that's 1.4 million 1695 01:29:52,080 --> 01:29:54,000 this morning next and then you know I 1696 01:29:54,000 --> 01:29:55,980 was just uh going just quickly through 1697 01:29:55,980 --> 01:29:57,360 the top of my head just looking at some 1698 01:29:57,360 --> 01:29:59,219 instructions in our book that's another 1699 01:29:59,219 --> 01:30:03,420 three million 143 000. so I'm detained 1700 01:30:03,420 --> 01:30:04,139 that 1701 01:30:04,139 --> 01:30:07,199 and the 1.4 million 1702 01:30:07,199 --> 01:30:12,840 is that 1.4 is 4.6 million that will have to take right 1703 01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,719 out of our fund balance 1704 01:30:15,719 --> 01:30:18,900 so but if you mentioned us not only when 1705 01:30:18,900 --> 01:30:20,880 we talk about some 1706 01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:24,060 big big numbers like a 2.4 million 1707 01:30:24,060 --> 01:30:26,699 dollars and then look at um the question 1708 01:30:26,699 --> 01:30:29,100 that um the answer to the best of our 1709 01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:30,360 many questions 1710 01:30:30,360 --> 01:30:32,719 on the 67 1711 01:30:32,719 --> 01:30:35,159 63 openings 1712 01:30:35,159 --> 01:30:38,100 that's a 5.3 million dollars here that 1713 01:30:38,100 --> 01:30:43,520 we budgeted last year and the positions 1714 01:30:43,520 --> 01:30:46,500 and then we're adding but we are we are 1715 01:30:46,500 --> 01:30:51,070 doing that money is not available 1716 01:30:51,080 --> 01:30:54,179 to hire people yeah and then we're 1717 01:30:54,179 --> 01:30:58,639 adding 15 more positions on 220. 1718 01:30:58,639 --> 01:31:02,280 so we got 5.3 million that we didn't 1719 01:31:02,280 --> 01:31:04,920 fill this this year and we're still 1720 01:31:04,920 --> 01:31:08,520 looking at the two million dollar loss 1721 01:31:08,520 --> 01:31:13,020 projection yes so and then plus all 1722 01:31:13,020 --> 01:31:14,420 these 1723 01:31:14,420 --> 01:31:18,679 1.426 773 and so where's 1724 01:31:18,679 --> 01:31:21,420 so if we're running a two million dollar 1725 01:31:21,420 --> 01:31:24,540 loss by not filling 5.3 million dollars 1726 01:31:24,540 --> 01:31:27,659 in positions 1727 01:31:27,659 --> 01:31:29,520 where would we be if we had those 1728 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:31,679 positions too 1729 01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:33,659 and some of them the big question is 1730 01:31:33,659 --> 01:31:34,739 then why are we adding more position 1731 01:31:34,739 --> 01:31:36,960 than I'm not a 50 position if we're at 1732 01:31:36,960 --> 01:31:47,530 last 1733 01:31:47,540 --> 01:31:50,159 a lot of these jobs were coming through 1734 01:31:50,159 --> 01:31:53,639 arpa that was three 3.1 million dollars 1735 01:31:53,639 --> 01:31:55,920 and you're cutting that out too 1736 01:31:55,920 --> 01:31:58,920 what why are we cutting out our bro 1737 01:31:58,920 --> 01:32:01,199 wait we have positions that were funded 1738 01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:03,060 by our brothers which is a question that 1739 01:32:03,060 --> 01:32:04,920 was asked by several council members 1740 01:32:04,920 --> 01:32:07,620 like what are we going to do 1741 01:32:07,620 --> 01:32:10,440 in in terms of that if you add that up 1742 01:32:10,440 --> 01:32:13,199 in non-filled positions it's 9.1 million 1743 01:32:13,199 --> 01:32:16,260 plus a 2 million dollar loss that's 11.1 1744 01:32:16,260 --> 01:32:18,480 million and then if we do these other 1745 01:32:18,480 --> 01:32:20,400 things then you're starting to get into 1746 01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:22,320 12. 1747 01:32:22,320 --> 01:32:27,840 13 14. million yes and we only have 16 1748 01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:32,040 million in fund balance which can go 1749 01:32:32,040 --> 01:32:33,659 very quickly you don't want to get 1750 01:32:33,659 --> 01:32:37,250 million dollars 1751 01:32:37,260 --> 01:32:39,780 check to see the plan was is for 1752 01:32:39,780 --> 01:32:41,760 stabilization when we're thinking this 1753 01:32:41,760 --> 01:32:43,080 is still a coverage you know we figure 1754 01:32:43,080 --> 01:32:45,840 2023 is probably the last of it and this 1755 01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:48,360 during the 2023 like we mentioned in the 1756 01:32:48,360 --> 01:32:50,820 talk our our Revenue should start 1757 01:32:50,820 --> 01:32:53,820 stabilizing and start increasing again 1758 01:32:53,820 --> 01:32:56,460 but you're talking about overcoming 5 1759 01:32:56,460 --> 01:32:58,199 million plus in Revenue well that's what 1760 01:32:58,199 --> 01:32:59,460 I'm saying that's not going to happen 1761 01:32:59,460 --> 01:33:01,020 that's where you have to raise fees I 1762 01:33:01,020 --> 01:33:04,020 mean you know uh you know I mean our 1763 01:33:04,020 --> 01:33:05,820 expenses are going up you can't 1764 01:33:05,820 --> 01:33:08,460 just can't put your your money come down 1765 01:33:08,460 --> 01:33:09,420 you know 1766 01:33:09,420 --> 01:33:12,179 I mean the broad question is a raising 1767 01:33:12,179 --> 01:33:13,739 fees 1768 01:33:13,739 --> 01:33:17,410 to continue to provide a service 1769 01:33:17,420 --> 01:33:21,060 we have to look back and say okay yes 1770 01:33:21,060 --> 01:33:23,100 providing the service provided me to 1771 01:33:23,100 --> 01:33:25,440 serve it but then maybe we just tax them 1772 01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:27,360 I need a tax tax payers I mean this is 1773 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:30,060 like raising water still in garbage is 1774 01:33:30,060 --> 01:33:32,400 fees but it's taxes 1775 01:33:32,400 --> 01:33:34,699 what I'm suggesting is if you don't 1776 01:33:34,699 --> 01:33:37,620 raise garbage don't take away the arpa 1777 01:33:37,620 --> 01:33:40,560 too I I you know keep keep the tax 1778 01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,440 collect I mean I mean just find ways 1779 01:33:43,440 --> 01:33:45,000 that help you know 1780 01:33:45,000 --> 01:33:46,920 let's get through this year and the next 1781 01:33:46,920 --> 01:33:48,659 year you'll see things will be better 1782 01:33:48,659 --> 01:33:50,940 you know hopefully hopefully unless we 1783 01:33:50,940 --> 01:33:52,639 have a third world war 1784 01:33:52,639 --> 01:33:55,080 I'm not saying 1785 01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,659 not to do the get rid of the fee 1786 01:33:57,659 --> 01:33:59,699 increase I'm just saying all this other 1787 01:33:59,699 --> 01:34:02,699 stuff plus what we're not having now 1788 01:34:02,699 --> 01:34:06,060 you're talking 12 13 million easy 1789 01:34:06,060 --> 01:34:06,900 yeah 1790 01:34:06,900 --> 01:34:10,260 so in terms of the fees my thought on 1791 01:34:10,260 --> 01:34:11,639 that was that because I've heard from 1792 01:34:11,639 --> 01:34:12,960 people is that well first of all it's 1793 01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:14,280 really just another way for us to 1794 01:34:14,280 --> 01:34:15,840 collect some taxes frankly is what's 1795 01:34:15,840 --> 01:34:17,699 being said and the other part is 1796 01:34:17,699 --> 01:34:19,440 something we've been discussing a lot at 1797 01:34:19,440 --> 01:34:22,139 the council and that is renters so if 1798 01:34:22,139 --> 01:34:24,420 homeowners get this fee they're passing 1799 01:34:24,420 --> 01:34:25,380 it on 1800 01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:27,480 so yes 1801 01:34:27,480 --> 01:34:33,189 they're not going to say um 1802 01:34:33,199 --> 01:34:36,060 they're not going to absorb it 1803 01:34:36,060 --> 01:34:38,400 um you know that and so we're already 1804 01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,080 talking about people feeling like they 1805 01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:41,760 can't afford to pay the rent that are 1806 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,679 currently so they're clearly not going 1807 01:34:43,679 --> 01:34:44,760 to be able to afford rent that's 1808 01:34:44,760 --> 01:34:48,239 increased and that the increase is is um 1809 01:34:48,239 --> 01:34:50,880 happens because we have increased the 1810 01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:52,380 garbage tree which we did two years ago 1811 01:34:52,380 --> 01:34:53,280 by the way 1812 01:34:53,280 --> 01:34:56,040 so I too have been hearing from people 1813 01:34:56,040 --> 01:34:57,600 that they absolutely don't want those 1814 01:34:57,600 --> 01:35:00,540 fees increased my question is just in 1815 01:35:00,540 --> 01:35:02,400 terms of being you know fiscally 1816 01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:03,900 responsible I get what you're saying 1817 01:35:03,900 --> 01:35:05,340 that those good points I wasn't thinking 1818 01:35:05,340 --> 01:35:06,179 about 1819 01:35:06,179 --> 01:35:07,440 but 1820 01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:09,719 where are we going to get the 2 million 1821 01:35:09,719 --> 01:35:11,340 two hundred and ninety nine thousand 1822 01:35:11,340 --> 01:35:16,620 dollars that that represents like where else would we what what are we 1823 01:35:16,620 --> 01:35:18,840 going to cut out of the budget in order 1824 01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:19,980 to 1825 01:35:19,980 --> 01:35:30,530 um save that 1826 01:35:30,540 --> 01:35:36,360 what's our what the funbots the water garbage does not have foam 1827 01:35:36,360 --> 01:35:39,420 diamonds what is a water sword 1828 01:35:39,420 --> 01:35:41,460 I sent it to the other day if you 1829 01:35:41,460 --> 01:35:44,000 haven't you had that paper 1830 01:35:44,000 --> 01:35:57,610 so sorry you don't need to get up now 1831 01:35:57,620 --> 01:36:00,970 thank you 1832 01:36:00,980 --> 01:36:03,239 it was the financial I sent you the 1833 01:36:03,239 --> 01:36:05,820 actual Financial audited report yes I 1834 01:36:05,820 --> 01:36:07,460 have all of those 1835 01:36:07,460 --> 01:36:09,719 we have to figure out which one is which 1836 01:36:09,719 --> 01:36:14,709 but this is 1837 01:36:14,719 --> 01:36:17,340 here's the water pump 1838 01:36:17,340 --> 01:36:30,290 here's the sewer bun okay 1839 01:36:30,300 --> 01:36:33,840 the front balance of the sore front is 1840 01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:36,440 12 million 1841 01:36:36,440 --> 01:36:41,400 725 000 I-43 they had a 167 thousand 1842 01:36:41,400 --> 01:36:42,960 dollar deficit 1843 01:36:42,960 --> 01:36:48,060 in 2020 they had a deficit of uh 744 1844 01:36:48,060 --> 01:36:52,560 000 oh wait in 2020 they had a deficit 1845 01:36:52,560 --> 01:36:57,000 of 167 661 in 2021 last year there was a 1846 01:36:57,000 --> 01:36:59,300 deficit of 744 1847 01:36:59,300 --> 01:37:03,060 787. the fund balance is 11 million 981 1848 01:37:03,060 --> 01:37:06,960 went from 1272 to 11 981 1849 01:37:06,960 --> 01:37:11,470 in the Waterfront 2020 1850 01:37:11,480 --> 01:37:15,659 the fund balance was 9.6 million 1851 01:37:15,659 --> 01:37:19,020 and in 2021 1852 01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:21,120 the fund balance that there was a 1853 01:37:21,120 --> 01:37:23,040 deficit of fifty seven thousand sixty 1854 01:37:23,040 --> 01:37:25,440 dollars in the front balance and uh in 1855 01:37:25,440 --> 01:37:27,960 2021 or right now is 9 million six 1856 01:37:27,960 --> 01:37:30,060 hundred and four thousand 1857 01:37:30,060 --> 01:37:32,699 so just as a point of codification when 1858 01:37:32,699 --> 01:37:34,739 we have a deficit in those we don't take 1859 01:37:34,739 --> 01:37:36,659 the money out of the reserve or the 1860 01:37:36,659 --> 01:37:38,880 reward it goes down so we started you 1861 01:37:38,880 --> 01:37:49,750 know it goes down we do take it okay 1862 01:37:49,760 --> 01:37:53,699 the starter payments and 1863 01:37:53,699 --> 01:37:56,159 the upgrades that we've made yeah for 1864 01:37:56,159 --> 01:37:57,900 the water yeah especially we're talking 1865 01:37:57,900 --> 01:38:00,780 just so for the sword that's about 57 1866 01:38:00,780 --> 01:38:03,900 million dollars 28 22.50 million dollars 1867 01:38:03,900 --> 01:38:06,000 that's about a million dollars a year 1868 01:38:06,000 --> 01:38:07,699 just in uh 1869 01:38:07,699 --> 01:38:13,030 principal uh confusion 1870 01:38:13,040 --> 01:38:15,420 and like I said if you want to not waste 1871 01:38:15,420 --> 01:38:17,219 water don't put water that looks okay 1872 01:38:17,219 --> 01:38:19,440 for now you're building those Wells 1873 01:38:19,440 --> 01:38:21,659 but you got at the sword again you need 1874 01:38:21,659 --> 01:38:25,139 that just for to uh to paint it that 1875 01:38:25,139 --> 01:38:27,360 uh garbage 1876 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:28,920 I don't you know what the problem with 1877 01:38:28,920 --> 01:38:30,659 garbage we have to figure that out is 1878 01:38:30,659 --> 01:38:31,739 what I'm saying if you don't want to 1879 01:38:31,739 --> 01:38:33,420 increase garbage you can't take away the 1880 01:38:33,420 --> 01:38:35,639 three point million dollars of our 1881 01:38:35,639 --> 01:38:40,430 performing that you're having here 1882 01:38:40,440 --> 01:38:42,300 why are we thinking about taking away 1883 01:38:42,300 --> 01:38:44,040 the arbor funding I mean except for the 1884 01:38:44,040 --> 01:38:45,780 longer term question of how do we make 1885 01:38:45,780 --> 01:38:48,380 it up next year or afternoon 1886 01:38:48,380 --> 01:38:51,960 is that is that what people are when we 1887 01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:53,280 met a couple weeks ago that we were 1888 01:38:53,280 --> 01:38:55,080 trying to address the last set of 1889 01:38:55,080 --> 01:38:56,300 funding for our 1890 01:38:56,300 --> 01:38:59,400 kid mentioned to us that he recommended 1891 01:38:59,400 --> 01:39:02,100 to us that we should hold off on making 1892 01:39:02,100 --> 01:39:04,139 any more allocation until he comes back 1893 01:39:04,139 --> 01:39:07,320 to us with his detail of the project who 1894 01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,120 you are and if it's from Iran are going 1895 01:39:09,120 --> 01:39:11,639 to retain the deadline to see if he has 1896 01:39:11,639 --> 01:39:14,159 enough money that we awarded to this 1897 01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:17,239 project and then we can able to continue 1898 01:39:17,239 --> 01:39:20,760 toward any additional fund that's why I 1899 01:39:20,760 --> 01:39:22,800 made a military on the second page with 1900 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:25,860 regards so they are performing for the 1901 01:39:25,860 --> 01:39:28,739 parks I think we are pretty much all of 1902 01:39:28,739 --> 01:39:30,719 us in agreement to fund the parts that 1903 01:39:30,719 --> 01:39:33,840 but how much money and are we gonna okay 1904 01:39:33,840 --> 01:39:35,760 to these parts and we'll need to wait on 1905 01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:37,920 me and McCarthy to come back to us with 1906 01:39:37,920 --> 01:39:40,920 those details as to what additional fund 1907 01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,179 is needed 1908 01:39:42,179 --> 01:39:44,639 for those Awards immediate and then 1909 01:39:44,639 --> 01:39:47,100 we'll move forward okay so my my 1910 01:39:47,100 --> 01:39:48,659 takeaway from that meeting where we put 1911 01:39:48,659 --> 01:39:50,760 things on pause 1912 01:39:50,760 --> 01:39:54,179 um was because I figured now when I got 1913 01:39:54,179 --> 01:39:56,699 this budget from the mayor that that was 1914 01:39:56,699 --> 01:39:58,320 the mayor's recommendations on how to 1915 01:39:58,320 --> 01:40:00,420 use the the Opera funds that this was us 1916 01:40:00,420 --> 01:40:03,480 moving forward from that pause 1917 01:40:03,480 --> 01:40:07,500 um to to use the Opera funds 1918 01:40:07,500 --> 01:40:09,840 um to to do this now I still have that 1919 01:40:09,840 --> 01:40:11,400 other I was one of the people that 1920 01:40:11,400 --> 01:40:13,800 raised the question of are we going to 1921 01:40:13,800 --> 01:40:16,800 replace that 5.8 million dollars 1922 01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:18,659 um but I 1923 01:40:18,659 --> 01:40:20,699 you know after yeah that's not the case 1924 01:40:20,699 --> 01:40:23,060 because um 1925 01:40:23,060 --> 01:40:25,620 is still working on getting those 1926 01:40:25,620 --> 01:40:27,840 details to us 1927 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:30,610 what can we ask questions 1928 01:40:30,610 --> 01:40:39,250 [Music] 1929 01:40:39,260 --> 01:40:41,639 is to create 1930 01:40:41,639 --> 01:40:45,239 stability within municipalities then 1931 01:40:45,239 --> 01:40:47,400 they granted other money to do 1932 01:40:47,400 --> 01:40:50,159 incentives within their communities uh 1933 01:40:50,159 --> 01:40:51,540 respective communities and put a lot of 1934 01:40:51,540 --> 01:40:52,620 flexibility 1935 01:40:52,620 --> 01:40:56,719 I've put forth a budget to use money 1936 01:40:56,719 --> 01:41:00,060 last year and I'm looking to have the 1937 01:41:00,060 --> 01:41:01,639 council support 1938 01:41:01,639 --> 01:41:05,699 again going into 2023 and would still 1939 01:41:05,699 --> 01:41:09,739 want to use some of our money in 2024 1940 01:41:09,739 --> 01:41:14,780 so that we have a stable fiscal position 1941 01:41:14,780 --> 01:41:17,280 within this area 1942 01:41:17,280 --> 01:41:20,450 and 1943 01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:23,400 okay we still have to generate the 1944 01:41:23,400 --> 01:41:25,080 revenue to cover our expenses we've 1945 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:28,860 granted contractual raises across the 1946 01:41:28,860 --> 01:41:30,540 board the police department was filled 1947 01:41:30,540 --> 01:41:32,780 up will be up this year 1948 01:41:32,780 --> 01:41:35,940 in the document I've given you the 1949 01:41:35,940 --> 01:41:37,679 budget I've given you I believe is 1950 01:41:37,679 --> 01:41:41,639 fiscally prudent for the long term 1951 01:41:41,639 --> 01:41:44,420 stability of the city to continue 1952 01:41:44,420 --> 01:41:48,600 the Renaissance that we have and I 1953 01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:50,639 welcome the discussion and debate but 1954 01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:52,380 some of these scenarios that you're 1955 01:41:52,380 --> 01:41:54,960 putting report are going to get our 1956 01:41:54,960 --> 01:41:56,480 ability when we go to the bond market 1957 01:41:56,480 --> 01:41:59,699 and just I believe the long-term fiscal 1958 01:41:59,699 --> 01:42:01,560 stability of the city 1959 01:42:01,560 --> 01:42:12,470 again bankrupt for two years 1960 01:42:12,480 --> 01:42:14,780 [Music] 1961 01:42:14,780 --> 01:42:19,310 that's amazing 1962 01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:22,570 foreign 1963 01:42:22,580 --> 01:42:30,119 [Music] 1964 01:42:30,119 --> 01:42:35,290 position 1965 01:42:35,300 --> 01:42:51,830 [Music] 1966 01:42:51,840 --> 01:43:08,330 understand 1967 01:43:08,340 --> 01:43:10,320 instead of 1968 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,179 region located originally from the 1969 01:43:12,179 --> 01:43:15,060 building inspector it's uh 1970 01:43:15,060 --> 01:43:17,840 and so I've seen him more after midnight 1971 01:43:17,840 --> 01:43:21,000 right the water department 1972 01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:26,629 yourself 1973 01:43:26,639 --> 01:43:29,219 I I'm in agreeance with this with 1974 01:43:29,219 --> 01:43:31,380 removing the stipends 1975 01:43:31,380 --> 01:43:33,770 um 1976 01:43:33,780 --> 01:43:35,400 you know when you sign up for the 1977 01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:38,100 position you're on Saturday 1978 01:43:38,100 --> 01:43:39,900 um work for the New York state division 1979 01:43:39,900 --> 01:43:41,880 of the budget that you're paying you 1980 01:43:41,880 --> 01:43:43,260 don't get any stipend even though you 1981 01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:47,580 work for 102 hours a week before so 1982 01:43:47,580 --> 01:43:51,420 um I am not a favor to find this 1983 01:43:51,420 --> 01:43:53,119 well 1984 01:43:53,119 --> 01:43:55,619 which ones good 1985 01:43:55,619 --> 01:43:57,080 um 1986 01:43:57,080 --> 01:43:59,760 there was some additions here but I'm 1987 01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,600 also saying taking around budget right 1988 01:44:03,600 --> 01:44:05,639 and what do you know what that was 1989 01:44:05,639 --> 01:44:07,440 representing it's not that there's not 1990 01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:13,390 that much money it's probably 30 years 1991 01:44:13,400 --> 01:44:16,320 Mr Ferrari you did mention we asked the 1992 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:18,840 question was asking the floor why do we 1993 01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:27,189 need to stay together 1994 01:44:27,199 --> 01:44:29,699 you know he gets three thousand dollars 1995 01:44:29,699 --> 01:44:30,960 a year 1996 01:44:30,960 --> 01:44:32,639 but he's there 1997 01:44:32,639 --> 01:44:35,520 24 7 like at midnight season more after 1998 01:44:35,520 --> 01:44:37,460 midnight than whatever 1999 01:44:37,460 --> 01:44:41,820 we have a statement for uh 2000 01:44:41,820 --> 01:44:43,920 the engineer because he works and 2001 01:44:43,920 --> 01:44:46,159 manages as the 2002 01:44:46,159 --> 01:44:48,840 governors you know oh you have a segment 2003 01:44:48,840 --> 01:44:52,380 for myself in uh there uh because you 2004 01:44:52,380 --> 01:44:54,139 know we go to all the meetings you know 2005 01:44:54,139 --> 01:44:59,040 after hours uh most cases typing we have 2006 01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:05,940 the Bureau of service because he's on 24 call manager is this type of and uh 2007 01:45:05,940 --> 01:45:09,600 our uh one other guy would be uh 2008 01:45:09,600 --> 01:45:12,659 Joe can't Joan because he's out 24 17. 2009 01:45:12,659 --> 01:45:13,920 he gets a second 2010 01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:16,679 if he can stipend and stand by day he 2011 01:45:16,679 --> 01:45:31,330 does not just know he's management 2012 01:45:31,340 --> 01:45:33,840 so I was calling on a regular basis 2013 01:45:33,840 --> 01:45:36,300 after hours for the incidents or events 2014 01:45:36,300 --> 01:45:38,280 where I want him out of bed he had a 2015 01:45:38,280 --> 01:45:41,880 scene no questions asked 2016 01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:46,209 stand by yeah 2017 01:45:46,219 --> 01:45:51,380 100 bucks a call uh 2018 01:45:51,380 --> 01:45:55,920 expanded since that and some people are 2019 01:45:55,920 --> 01:45:59,580 it's not a sense of urgency schedules 2020 01:45:59,580 --> 01:46:01,380 but again that's the discretion of the 2021 01:46:01,380 --> 01:46:05,219 council that I can understand 2022 01:46:05,219 --> 01:46:07,860 um just doing your job and going to 2023 01:46:07,860 --> 01:46:09,239 meetings and 2024 01:46:09,239 --> 01:46:11,460 putting in extra hours is just part of 2025 01:46:11,460 --> 01:46:12,360 your 2026 01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,020 salary 2027 01:46:15,020 --> 01:46:21,900 so as I kind of process through that I think like so you know my original 2028 01:46:21,900 --> 01:46:24,239 thought was well you know 2029 01:46:24,239 --> 01:46:26,460 hearing you know from the staff 2030 01:46:26,460 --> 01:46:29,159 um and I think we all have 2031 01:46:29,159 --> 01:46:31,920 uh you know said you know Express the 2032 01:46:31,920 --> 01:46:33,300 younger the major the major leadership 2033 01:46:33,300 --> 01:46:35,159 they've been doing a really good job and 2034 01:46:35,159 --> 01:46:38,880 even kind of rising you know 2035 01:46:38,880 --> 01:46:41,460 above you know 2036 01:46:41,460 --> 01:46:43,679 expectations and I just think that like 2037 01:46:43,679 --> 01:46:45,780 so if I'm a staff member and my original 2038 01:46:45,780 --> 01:46:47,520 thought was do they have autonomy of 2039 01:46:47,520 --> 01:46:48,719 their schedule so could they kind of 2040 01:46:48,719 --> 01:46:52,260 like shift their hours and you know you 2041 01:46:52,260 --> 01:46:53,280 know so if you're going to be in a 2042 01:46:53,280 --> 01:46:54,600 meeting that maybe you're not here at 2043 01:46:54,600 --> 01:46:56,040 nine o'clock in the morning maybe that 2044 01:46:56,040 --> 01:46:58,260 day you can come in at 11 o'clock but 2045 01:46:58,260 --> 01:47:00,600 the reality of that is yeah those two 2046 01:47:00,600 --> 01:47:02,100 hours we need you here yeah we're gonna 2047 01:47:02,100 --> 01:47:03,780 say so so when it's like that so that's 2048 01:47:03,780 --> 01:47:06,960 why you know I I would you know I and 2049 01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:08,460 because you know I think it makes up 2050 01:47:08,460 --> 01:47:11,280 such a small number you know every 2051 01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:12,600 dollar counselor I think that those are 2052 01:47:12,600 --> 01:47:15,320 dollars Wise Wise 2053 01:47:15,320 --> 01:47:18,179 expected too it's a lot of times I come 2054 01:47:18,179 --> 01:47:19,619 in the middle of the night too whether 2055 01:47:19,619 --> 01:47:21,560 it's insurance emergency 2056 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:24,360 because I'm the guy that does the 2057 01:47:24,360 --> 01:47:27,470 insurance stuff 2058 01:47:27,480 --> 01:47:30,020 the city usually 2059 01:47:30,020 --> 01:47:32,580 comes time to manage our employees the 2060 01:47:32,580 --> 01:47:34,580 council is subsequently 2061 01:47:34,580 --> 01:47:37,020 changed that where there is no account 2062 01:47:37,020 --> 01:47:41,520 time or overtime that is allocated for 2063 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:44,880 management employees again so it is 2064 01:47:44,880 --> 01:47:55,270 somewhat of a conflicted 2065 01:47:55,280 --> 01:47:57,659 way before so we should we should look 2066 01:47:57,659 --> 01:47:59,760 it up well except that I mean again I 2067 01:47:59,760 --> 01:48:00,900 don't know how it is in a public 2068 01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:03,659 municipality but in a in in other 2069 01:48:03,659 --> 01:48:06,659 workplaces the state sets laws on what's 2070 01:48:06,659 --> 01:48:08,940 an exempt versus a non-exempt employee 2071 01:48:08,940 --> 01:48:11,580 an exempt employee I think I always mix 2072 01:48:11,580 --> 01:48:13,980 it up but one of those cannot get over 2073 01:48:13,980 --> 01:48:16,380 time like when when I was working I 2074 01:48:16,380 --> 01:48:18,360 could not get overtime I just worked 2075 01:48:18,360 --> 01:48:21,719 until I finished my work 2076 01:48:21,719 --> 01:48:24,360 um whether it was you know eight in the 2077 01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:26,880 morning or eight o'clock at night you 2078 01:48:26,880 --> 01:48:27,719 know 2079 01:48:27,719 --> 01:48:29,880 um but that was Private obviously not a 2080 01:48:29,880 --> 01:48:33,840 public so I just wanted because I I what 2081 01:48:33,840 --> 01:48:37,260 council did that before when was that I 2082 01:48:37,260 --> 01:48:39,900 think yeah well what I'm saying is I 2083 01:48:39,900 --> 01:48:41,460 don't think that we can't I think we'd 2084 01:48:41,460 --> 01:48:47,590 have to 2085 01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:50,100 I mean if it's the same for a 2086 01:48:50,100 --> 01:48:51,900 municipality as it is in Private 2087 01:48:51,900 --> 01:48:54,060 Industry uh whether we can give them 2088 01:48:54,060 --> 01:48:55,260 stipends 2089 01:48:55,260 --> 01:48:59,100 well I don't I I personally no offense 2090 01:48:59,100 --> 01:49:00,780 because I think you all work hard and I 2091 01:49:00,780 --> 01:49:02,940 agree Mr Farley that everybody's you 2092 01:49:02,940 --> 01:49:05,340 know going above and beyond but 2093 01:49:05,340 --> 01:49:07,800 you know I mean if part of your job is 2094 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,560 attending a meeting after hours it's 2095 01:49:10,560 --> 01:49:12,719 part of your job but 2096 01:49:12,719 --> 01:49:14,520 um again I appreciate the work that 2097 01:49:14,520 --> 01:49:17,340 you're doing but I'm just saying I again 2098 01:49:17,340 --> 01:49:19,320 I've always worked in not in a public 2099 01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,480 setting though so it might be different 2100 01:49:21,480 --> 01:49:30,000 so I think I think we're discussing the legality of 2101 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:32,040 a stipend that is very different for 2102 01:49:32,040 --> 01:49:35,340 what I cannot support is hearing every 2103 01:49:35,340 --> 01:49:37,320 single person that sat in that seat 2104 01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:39,840 telling them we appreciate your service 2105 01:49:39,840 --> 01:49:41,280 this city 2106 01:49:41,280 --> 01:49:43,739 you are going to get less money 2107 01:49:43,739 --> 01:49:46,860 that is a version of a pay cut and I 2108 01:49:46,860 --> 01:49:48,900 cannot look them in the eye and tell 2109 01:49:48,900 --> 01:49:51,540 them we're going to need you to not only 2110 01:49:51,540 --> 01:49:53,040 repeat that 2111 01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:56,280 but go beyond the following year 2112 01:49:56,280 --> 01:49:58,080 because we don't know the expectations 2113 01:49:58,080 --> 01:49:59,880 of covet 2114 01:49:59,880 --> 01:50:01,139 how 2115 01:50:01,139 --> 01:50:03,840 as we've heard multiple times we're 2116 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,780 competing with industries that are far 2117 01:50:06,780 --> 01:50:09,360 exceeding our salary limits 2118 01:50:09,360 --> 01:50:10,920 so the fact that we have individuals 2119 01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:12,900 still here that are still striving to 2120 01:50:12,900 --> 01:50:16,020 improve our city is a benefit but a 2121 01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:17,100 luxury that we should not take for 2122 01:50:17,100 --> 01:50:19,380 granted so that is why I can't support 2123 01:50:19,380 --> 01:50:31,270 limiting stipends 2124 01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:38,169 [Music] 2125 01:50:38,179 --> 01:50:40,560 yeah so that's something maybe we want 2126 01:50:40,560 --> 01:50:42,360 to look at as a counselor if it was 2127 01:50:42,360 --> 01:50:44,280 there why it was removed and maybe we 2128 01:50:44,280 --> 01:50:46,500 looked up I'm gonna put some I put a 2129 01:50:46,500 --> 01:50:49,199 note to go well so I wouldn't really 2130 01:50:49,199 --> 01:50:51,900 have any issue with the increase you 2131 01:50:51,900 --> 01:50:53,880 don't want to get rid of the stipends 2132 01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:55,020 behind but I don't think we should 2133 01:50:55,020 --> 01:50:56,340 increase something I don't think we 2134 01:50:56,340 --> 01:50:59,520 should give extra I mean quite frankly 2135 01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:03,000 your management that's the job if you 2136 01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:04,800 didn't like that then you shouldn't have 2137 01:51:04,800 --> 01:51:14,090 taken the job in the first place 2138 01:51:14,100 --> 01:51:26,710 foreign 2139 01:51:26,720 --> 01:51:45,290 [Music] 2140 01:51:45,300 --> 01:51:48,380 so 2141 01:51:48,390 --> 01:51:53,870 [Music] 2142 01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,340 would you understood yes and and you 2143 01:51:56,340 --> 01:51:57,300 know 2144 01:51:57,300 --> 01:51:59,699 again appreciate all the work that's 2145 01:51:59,699 --> 01:52:06,669 done on every level by all of us 2146 01:52:06,679 --> 01:52:09,239 so Mr Williams you're in favor of the 2147 01:52:09,239 --> 01:52:10,920 ten thousand dollars stipend for Mr 2148 01:52:10,920 --> 01:52:21,109 Ferrari so we wouldn't uh absolutely 2149 01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:29,109 yeah okay okay 2150 01:52:29,119 --> 01:52:32,580 so I a lot a lot of people see me wear 2151 01:52:32,580 --> 01:52:34,619 my Ortho New York gear and it's not 2152 01:52:34,619 --> 01:52:37,920 because I I just have a deep infatuation 2153 01:52:37,920 --> 01:52:39,780 for wearing this I'm coming right from 2154 01:52:39,780 --> 01:52:41,880 work more times than not as a salary 2155 01:52:41,880 --> 01:52:43,920 employee I'm a manager you're doing the 2156 01:52:43,920 --> 01:52:46,080 extra hours I I yield to that I get that 2157 01:52:46,080 --> 01:52:49,440 what I think we're missing is when you 2158 01:52:49,440 --> 01:52:52,739 enter a contract that says the 2159 01:52:52,739 --> 01:52:54,900 presidents so the president has been 2160 01:52:54,900 --> 01:52:57,060 that they've given statements so I think 2161 01:52:57,060 --> 01:52:59,520 to alter that agreement after they 2162 01:52:59,520 --> 01:53:01,619 continue to to do the work 2163 01:53:01,619 --> 01:53:03,239 that's a separate conversation different 2164 01:53:03,239 --> 01:53:05,760 from what we know within our personal 2165 01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:08,400 Employments and they've conceded not to 2166 01:53:08,400 --> 01:53:10,760 take away the cycles 2167 01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,739 [Music] 2168 01:53:13,739 --> 01:53:17,280 management employees there's no contract 2169 01:53:17,280 --> 01:53:19,199 from that it is determined by the annual 2170 01:53:19,199 --> 01:53:21,360 budget when it's adopted by the city 2171 01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:32,770 council 2172 01:53:32,780 --> 01:53:36,119 I don't have an issue given a a stipend 2173 01:53:36,119 --> 01:53:38,100 or two until you know any employee who 2174 01:53:38,100 --> 01:53:40,440 deserve it because I'm coming from the 2175 01:53:40,440 --> 01:53:43,619 private sector we are silent where we 2176 01:53:43,619 --> 01:53:45,179 get bonuses 2177 01:53:45,179 --> 01:53:46,159 um 2178 01:53:46,159 --> 01:53:49,139 which is kind of like stipend it's nice 2179 01:53:49,139 --> 01:53:51,960 you know it's nice we will work on 2180 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:53,699 Sunday at two o'clock in the morning and 2181 01:53:53,699 --> 01:53:55,080 we don't get all the time but we're 2182 01:53:55,080 --> 01:53:56,699 knowing that the fact that's on the road 2183 01:53:56,699 --> 01:53:58,860 we're getting a bonus as we're as the 2184 01:53:58,860 --> 01:54:01,739 individual working here doing their 2185 01:54:01,739 --> 01:54:04,020 salary in overtime but 2186 01:54:04,020 --> 01:54:08,040 small stipend to offset the time that 2187 01:54:08,040 --> 01:54:10,320 they are here not every day of the week 2188 01:54:10,320 --> 01:54:11,880 not every video of the year but 2189 01:54:11,880 --> 01:54:14,100 recognize the work that they're doing we 2190 01:54:14,100 --> 01:54:16,380 need to we need to do that we started 2191 01:54:16,380 --> 01:54:18,300 this last year when we did the budget to 2192 01:54:18,300 --> 01:54:20,760 with the management of employees then we 2193 01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,159 give them so they already asked for most 2194 01:54:23,159 --> 01:54:25,320 of them already asked for and now we'll 2195 01:54:25,320 --> 01:54:27,840 follow up with me is asking for four 2196 01:54:27,840 --> 01:54:29,580 percent there's a recommendation here to 2197 01:54:29,580 --> 01:54:30,860 go across the board for three percent 2198 01:54:30,860 --> 01:54:33,420 you know we all move the folks for our 2199 01:54:33,420 --> 01:54:35,520 management employees and a small little 2200 01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:36,719 token 2201 01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:39,960 doesn't work they help us as a city I 2202 01:54:39,960 --> 01:54:43,679 think we're ready to move on yes yes 2203 01:54:43,679 --> 01:54:46,800 so you get a bonus because your ear is 2204 01:54:46,800 --> 01:54:48,840 highly profitable 2205 01:54:48,840 --> 01:54:50,880 we are 2206 01:54:50,880 --> 01:54:53,940 and so there's a difference there you 2207 01:54:53,940 --> 01:54:56,400 know if we were making a huge Surplus 2208 01:54:56,400 --> 01:54:59,100 every year okay let's let's go at it 2209 01:54:59,100 --> 01:55:00,960 let's look for the mail saying there's a 2210 01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:02,880 surplus right we may have three million 2211 01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,040 dollars 2212 01:55:04,040 --> 01:55:07,199 there was a great million dollars I 2213 01:55:07,199 --> 01:55:09,300 proposed a couple years ago if you saved 2214 01:55:09,300 --> 01:55:12,060 the city millions of dollars no we can't 2215 01:55:12,060 --> 01:55:13,860 do it I guess because of state law it's 2216 01:55:13,860 --> 01:55:16,199 not to get the money because he's the 2217 01:55:16,199 --> 01:55:17,820 guy that but if you're an employee you 2218 01:55:17,820 --> 01:55:19,920 save millions of dollars you know there 2219 01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:22,560 should be some sort of reward you touch 2220 01:55:22,560 --> 01:55:24,119 them a point that we were working on it 2221 01:55:24,119 --> 01:55:27,199 or review but we can't do it because 2222 01:55:27,199 --> 01:55:33,239 public money yeah let's look at this time I don't 2223 01:55:33,239 --> 01:55:35,360 have a problem yet 2224 01:55:35,360 --> 01:55:50,750 it's 100 more maybe expensive question 2225 01:55:50,760 --> 01:56:04,640 foreign 2226 01:56:04,650 --> 01:56:17,209 [Music] 2227 01:56:17,219 --> 01:56:20,159 if we take away the water sewer and um 2228 01:56:20,159 --> 01:56:23,280 trash did we we did go to the restroom 2229 01:56:23,280 --> 01:56:24,800 in there for a few minutes 2230 01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:27,239 but I'm saying you can't take an ad out 2231 01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:28,920 plus take out the Arca money too because 2232 01:56:28,920 --> 01:56:30,480 then then you're looking at what I said 2233 01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,360 7.9 million dollars attitude of three 2234 01:56:33,360 --> 01:56:35,219 million we already planned to do so 2235 01:56:35,219 --> 01:56:36,600 we're looking at what do we say almost 2236 01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:38,880 12 million dollars right so say if you 2237 01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:40,800 don't if you don't 2238 01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:42,960 you can't take away the arpa of monies 2239 01:56:42,960 --> 01:56:45,300 if you don't want to erase those fees 2240 01:56:45,300 --> 01:56:47,880 you can't well I think that is a lot I 2241 01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:50,100 call earlier that um we need to look at 2242 01:56:50,100 --> 01:56:51,900 the numbers the left side right side 2243 01:56:51,900 --> 01:56:54,719 well right that's right that's why I'm 2244 01:56:54,719 --> 01:56:56,699 answering before we go into this because 2245 01:56:56,699 --> 01:56:59,219 I was not able to put numbers again I 2246 01:56:59,219 --> 01:57:00,600 was able to pull numbers from the book 2247 01:57:00,600 --> 01:57:02,699 as much as like sure okay but then again 2248 01:57:02,699 --> 01:57:05,219 that's why I said this earlier before is 2249 01:57:05,219 --> 01:57:08,280 that give a it's a Ferrari time to put 2250 01:57:08,280 --> 01:57:10,520 the numbers together I guess we have 426 2251 01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:13,099 77. 2252 01:57:13,099 --> 01:57:15,060 you know we have done that in the past 2253 01:57:15,060 --> 01:57:17,580 year he says okay here is going to cost 2254 01:57:17,580 --> 01:57:19,800 us payers amount of money that we have 2255 01:57:19,800 --> 01:57:21,960 here where do we where do we move later 2256 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:31,450 on from I know it's you know yeah 2257 01:57:31,460 --> 01:57:34,920 here's a simple question yeah so replace 2258 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,320 mental health specialist title with 2259 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:39,540 service Navigator so I Googled a service 2260 01:57:39,540 --> 01:57:42,300 notificator so what is the difference or 2261 01:57:42,300 --> 01:57:43,619 what 2262 01:57:43,619 --> 01:57:46,560 yes so I I that I I put that sure 2263 01:57:46,560 --> 01:57:49,020 doesn't work so that was just based on 2264 01:57:49,020 --> 01:57:52,639 um uh what we were hearing um 2265 01:57:52,639 --> 01:57:55,020 that that 2266 01:57:55,020 --> 01:57:58,440 the original title of mental health 2267 01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:00,719 um specialist and I asked for chief I 2268 01:58:00,719 --> 01:58:04,199 said you know it seems like this person 2269 01:58:04,199 --> 01:58:07,320 in this role is acting more as a 2270 01:58:07,320 --> 01:58:09,360 resource Navigator 2271 01:58:09,360 --> 01:58:11,639 um not on providing services to 2272 01:58:11,639 --> 01:58:14,040 individuals that he said yeah so and so 2273 01:58:14,040 --> 01:58:15,960 I I thought that that was again an 2274 01:58:15,960 --> 01:58:18,060 important thing because I 2275 01:58:18,060 --> 01:58:23,770 foreign 2276 01:58:23,780 --> 01:58:26,760 people have come to the world and talked 2277 01:58:26,760 --> 01:58:29,219 about it and I think that 2278 01:58:29,219 --> 01:58:30,719 I just 2279 01:58:30,719 --> 01:58:33,179 want to be clear as to the function of 2280 01:58:33,179 --> 01:58:36,599 that position and I don't think that the 2281 01:58:36,599 --> 01:58:40,199 title of mental health specialness 2282 01:58:40,199 --> 01:58:42,960 um really captures uh the breadth of 2283 01:58:42,960 --> 01:59:10,629 that work based on what the teachers 2284 01:59:10,639 --> 01:59:13,380 but I did have some prior knowledge of 2285 01:59:13,380 --> 01:59:15,239 uh service navigating and resource 2286 01:59:15,239 --> 01:59:16,679 navigating being civil service position 2287 01:59:16,679 --> 01:59:19,619 titles so that's why I suggested because 2288 01:59:19,619 --> 01:59:21,659 I was thinking that if it works fine 2289 01:59:21,659 --> 01:59:23,639 yeah definitely yeah I just think it 2290 01:59:23,639 --> 01:59:25,860 just you know represents more of what 2291 01:59:25,860 --> 01:59:27,420 that what the function of that job would 2292 01:59:27,420 --> 01:59:28,199 be 2293 01:59:28,199 --> 01:59:29,400 um 2294 01:59:29,400 --> 01:59:31,500 because it is 2295 01:59:31,500 --> 01:59:33,599 correct me if I'm wrong but I think the 2296 01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:35,340 mental health specialist 2297 01:59:35,340 --> 01:59:37,139 is 2298 01:59:37,139 --> 01:59:40,800 for internal mental health that's not 2299 01:59:40,800 --> 01:59:43,500 the person that goes out is it on calls 2300 01:59:43,500 --> 01:59:45,780 because we have the contract with 2301 01:59:45,780 --> 01:59:48,000 Northern Rivers 2302 01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:51,420 um right to go out on calls um so maybe 2303 01:59:51,420 --> 01:59:53,880 this person was doing some of that 2304 01:59:53,880 --> 01:59:55,560 um but I thought also it was like an 2305 01:59:55,560 --> 01:59:57,420 internal Wellness for the that's not 2306 01:59:57,420 --> 01:59:59,520 what I understand no no no no so there's 2307 01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:02,880 so okay a couple different things and 2308 02:00:02,880 --> 02:00:04,619 um hiring statement to be is that the 2309 02:00:04,619 --> 02:00:06,780 police the officers have someone that um 2310 02:00:06,780 --> 02:00:10,380 internally that serves as a you know 2311 02:00:10,380 --> 02:00:13,980 mental health for for them right 2312 02:00:13,980 --> 02:00:16,860 um this uh mental health specialist 2313 02:00:16,860 --> 02:00:18,300 title 2314 02:00:18,300 --> 02:00:20,820 um I believe this was you know part of 2315 02:00:20,820 --> 02:00:22,920 the police reform 2316 02:00:22,920 --> 02:00:26,820 um conversations and I think um you know 2317 02:00:26,820 --> 02:00:29,639 as they should you know the police 2318 02:00:29,639 --> 02:00:32,159 department you know and listen to the 2319 02:00:32,159 --> 02:00:33,840 community and said you know we want to 2320 02:00:33,840 --> 02:00:35,340 get a mental health specialist well the 2321 02:00:35,340 --> 02:00:36,960 chief was saying he's saying that you 2322 02:00:36,960 --> 02:00:39,300 know really this person wouldn't be 2323 02:00:39,300 --> 02:00:41,639 aiding in this de-escalation this person 2324 02:00:41,639 --> 02:00:43,739 would be aiding in more of a follow-up 2325 02:00:43,739 --> 02:00:45,179 so if you're dealing with somebody they 2326 02:00:45,179 --> 02:00:46,980 can go back and coordinate with service 2327 02:00:46,980 --> 02:00:49,800 and agencies you're right right so I was 2328 02:00:49,800 --> 02:00:51,599 just but I think the community might be 2329 02:00:51,599 --> 02:00:53,460 under the impression that this is the 2330 02:00:53,460 --> 02:00:54,960 person that's providing Mental Health 2331 02:00:54,960 --> 02:00:57,659 Services right two people out in the 2332 02:00:57,659 --> 02:00:59,280 community have that are having police 2333 02:00:59,280 --> 02:01:02,159 contact and that's really not a accurate 2334 02:01:02,159 --> 02:01:04,440 I think the example is what happened in 2335 02:01:04,440 --> 02:01:05,580 Phil Park 2336 02:01:05,580 --> 02:01:09,000 I think the example is when the the 2337 02:01:09,000 --> 02:01:11,880 police department worked with Bethesda 2338 02:01:11,880 --> 02:01:15,119 House Gap Etc and did a coordinated 2339 02:01:15,119 --> 02:01:19,139 effort in uh working with the people who 2340 02:01:19,139 --> 02:01:22,500 were without housing uh that were coming 2341 02:01:22,500 --> 02:01:25,199 down out of Vale Park 2342 02:01:25,199 --> 02:01:26,880 um and um 2343 02:01:26,880 --> 02:01:30,540 and placing them and and supporting them 2344 02:01:30,540 --> 02:01:32,460 and giving them the services they needed 2345 02:01:32,460 --> 02:01:34,739 that that's what this role of this 2346 02:01:34,739 --> 02:01:36,800 person 2347 02:01:36,800 --> 02:01:39,719 right I guess is what I'm saying yes yes 2348 02:01:39,719 --> 02:01:43,920 it seems like yourself 2349 02:01:43,920 --> 02:01:46,380 service Navigator helping service yes 2350 02:01:46,380 --> 02:01:47,940 not only just connecting them with 2351 02:01:47,940 --> 02:01:49,380 service providers but then follow them 2352 02:01:49,380 --> 02:01:53,530 up and yeah 2353 02:01:53,540 --> 02:01:57,910 oh yeah 2354 02:01:57,920 --> 02:02:03,250 exactly yes 2355 02:02:03,260 --> 02:02:07,490 [Music] 2356 02:02:07,500 --> 02:02:10,320 this is our chance to discuss 2357 02:02:10,320 --> 02:02:16,950 so 2358 02:02:16,960 --> 02:02:25,490 [Music] 2359 02:02:25,500 --> 02:02:48,820 foreign 2360 02:02:48,830 --> 02:02:57,649 [Music] 2361 02:02:57,659 --> 02:03:03,740 to talk about so his items 2362 02:03:03,750 --> 02:03:04,920 [Music] 2363 02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:19,330 um 2364 02:03:19,340 --> 02:03:22,430 [Music] 2365 02:03:22,440 --> 02:03:24,599 let's talk about child support uh 2366 02:03:24,599 --> 02:03:27,540 affirmative action office 2367 02:03:27,540 --> 02:03:29,639 I think we are coming on Mr Garden 2368 02:03:29,639 --> 02:03:32,880 yesterday and the reason why he wanted a 2369 02:03:32,880 --> 02:03:36,540 sports staff to help them out and 2370 02:03:36,540 --> 02:03:41,810 the needs 2371 02:03:41,820 --> 02:03:51,709 for that often sorry 2372 02:03:51,719 --> 02:03:57,290 any question on this there it will 2373 02:03:57,300 --> 02:04:01,320 yeah so to me 2374 02:04:01,320 --> 02:04:05,099 I don't he needs support 2375 02:04:05,099 --> 02:04:07,320 but it seems to me we're hiring an IPS 2376 02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:11,639 person in human resources that could do 2377 02:04:11,639 --> 02:04:15,060 a good portion of some of that data 2378 02:04:15,060 --> 02:04:17,520 analysis type thing he's looking for at 2379 02:04:17,520 --> 02:04:20,520 least tracking people if I remember 2380 02:04:20,520 --> 02:04:22,980 about us one of the big things he's 2381 02:04:22,980 --> 02:04:24,619 struggling with 2382 02:04:24,619 --> 02:04:27,960 and then so that to me is a human 2383 02:04:27,960 --> 02:04:33,239 resources job and could be filled by 2384 02:04:33,239 --> 02:04:35,520 that person in the human resource 2385 02:04:35,520 --> 02:04:36,719 department 2386 02:04:36,719 --> 02:04:41,099 and then I think the other stuff could 2387 02:04:41,099 --> 02:04:43,619 be handled by some of the people in the 2388 02:04:43,619 --> 02:04:45,000 development office 2389 02:04:45,000 --> 02:04:47,340 with because they kind of work hand in 2390 02:04:47,340 --> 02:04:49,980 hand don't they so like you're you're 2391 02:04:49,980 --> 02:04:52,739 doing these things 2392 02:04:52,739 --> 02:04:54,840 seems to me we need a culminated after 2393 02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:57,420 which he's already doing 2394 02:04:57,420 --> 02:05:01,320 and so to get the support of your needs 2395 02:05:01,320 --> 02:05:03,119 I think we have some of it in place 2396 02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:04,260 already 2397 02:05:04,260 --> 02:05:06,719 it's just a matter of making sure those 2398 02:05:06,719 --> 02:05:07,980 people 2399 02:05:07,980 --> 02:05:10,679 do what they need to do for Iran and 2400 02:05:10,679 --> 02:05:13,260 making sure he's getting the data and 2401 02:05:13,260 --> 02:05:16,669 support he needs 2402 02:05:16,679 --> 02:05:21,659 well I mean if HR assistant ips3 and 2403 02:05:21,659 --> 02:05:24,179 that's a new hire I'm sure 2404 02:05:24,179 --> 02:05:28,850 foreign 2405 02:05:28,860 --> 02:05:36,850 [Music] 2406 02:05:36,860 --> 02:05:43,850 office or related to the work 2407 02:05:43,860 --> 02:05:45,360 and 2408 02:05:45,360 --> 02:05:49,149 um 2409 02:05:49,159 --> 02:05:51,179 so I think part of what we heard 2410 02:05:51,179 --> 02:05:54,000 yesterday from Mr coluccio is that when 2411 02:05:54,000 --> 02:05:56,880 you don't dedicate singular positions 2412 02:05:56,880 --> 02:06:01,580 for singular roles you then create these 2413 02:06:01,580 --> 02:06:04,619 uh individuals who have their hands in 2414 02:06:04,619 --> 02:06:06,780 multiple hats and if we're not able to 2415 02:06:06,780 --> 02:06:09,300 find the placements those roles 2416 02:06:09,300 --> 02:06:11,699 keep increasing so by the time you get 2417 02:06:11,699 --> 02:06:17,040 to 20 years in the city not only are you your title but you're 2418 02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:19,139 also an umbrella of everything that just 2419 02:06:19,139 --> 02:06:21,000 kept on your plate because you had no 2420 02:06:21,000 --> 02:06:23,099 one else to give it to so I think if 2421 02:06:23,099 --> 02:06:24,360 we're intentionally supporting this 2422 02:06:24,360 --> 02:06:26,940 department we need to give it the 2423 02:06:26,940 --> 02:06:29,639 positions that he requested and fold 2424 02:06:29,639 --> 02:06:31,679 yeah and I was going to talk about 2425 02:06:31,679 --> 02:06:34,440 Department of development I mean that 2426 02:06:34,440 --> 02:06:35,940 adding more work for them we have been 2427 02:06:35,940 --> 02:06:37,560 moving and we work from Department of 2428 02:06:37,560 --> 02:06:39,719 development and I could just call the 2429 02:06:39,719 --> 02:06:42,780 program out you know we recently last 2430 02:06:42,780 --> 02:06:44,460 year the year before transform our whole 2431 02:06:44,460 --> 02:06:47,159 program as well to pcni so it's just 2432 02:06:47,159 --> 02:06:49,860 because they have enough that they're 2433 02:06:49,860 --> 02:06:51,080 doing down there 2434 02:06:51,080 --> 02:06:53,460 and adding more attack of them it will 2435 02:06:53,460 --> 02:06:55,800 not be fear 2436 02:06:55,800 --> 02:06:58,020 in addition we kind of are adding more 2437 02:06:58,020 --> 02:06:59,580 because um they have to do a lot with 2438 02:06:59,580 --> 02:07:02,820 the Arbor project so we that's going to 2439 02:07:02,820 --> 02:07:04,920 be something that's going to be but we 2440 02:07:04,920 --> 02:07:07,260 added that remember you and I last year 2441 02:07:07,260 --> 02:07:08,520 um kind of questioned the additional 2442 02:07:08,520 --> 02:07:10,260 position that we put into development 2443 02:07:10,260 --> 02:07:12,060 last year which was the rationale for 2444 02:07:12,060 --> 02:07:15,719 that was to to be working on the arpa 2445 02:07:15,719 --> 02:07:19,440 who's that I think it now when when it 2446 02:07:19,440 --> 02:07:20,880 was added to us last year was called 2447 02:07:20,880 --> 02:07:22,560 assistant director but if I asked 2448 02:07:22,560 --> 02:07:24,480 Kristen about it the other um when she 2449 02:07:24,480 --> 02:07:27,119 spoke with us and it has a different 2450 02:07:27,119 --> 02:07:30,870 title now 2451 02:07:30,880 --> 02:07:32,000 [Music] 2452 02:07:32,000 --> 02:07:35,040 Community Development 2453 02:07:35,040 --> 02:07:38,040 um to 2454 02:07:38,040 --> 02:07:39,840 um help because we thought that 2455 02:07:39,840 --> 02:07:42,599 Christians were Globe would be affected 2456 02:07:42,599 --> 02:07:44,340 by the arpa 2457 02:07:44,340 --> 02:07:46,020 um so we have we added that other 2458 02:07:46,020 --> 02:07:48,540 position so I was actually 2459 02:07:48,540 --> 02:07:50,880 um the two other but 2460 02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:53,280 I mean again those positions are filled 2461 02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:56,040 she explained to us already but there 2462 02:07:56,040 --> 02:07:58,380 are two additional new positions in her 2463 02:07:58,380 --> 02:08:00,060 office 2464 02:08:00,060 --> 02:08:03,239 um that I was wondering about whether 2465 02:08:03,239 --> 02:08:06,659 those recipes needed but they are filled 2466 02:08:06,659 --> 02:08:08,639 now already before we even came to 2467 02:08:08,639 --> 02:08:10,139 talking about 2468 02:08:10,139 --> 02:08:12,420 budget so you know 2469 02:08:12,420 --> 02:08:13,739 so there really shouldn't have been on 2470 02:08:13,739 --> 02:08:15,960 the list of new jobs new jobs because 2471 02:08:15,960 --> 02:08:20,810 they were already filled 2472 02:08:20,820 --> 02:08:22,560 and when the other part and we didn't 2473 02:08:22,560 --> 02:08:24,060 know when we felt that position went up 2474 02:08:24,060 --> 02:08:25,560 it was what was looked like we didn't 2475 02:08:25,560 --> 02:08:28,199 know that we were going to fund like 2476 02:08:28,199 --> 02:08:30,540 multiple projects that people really 2477 02:08:30,540 --> 02:08:32,280 have to monitor and take a look at we 2478 02:08:32,280 --> 02:08:35,460 didn't know any of that right so now 2479 02:08:35,460 --> 02:08:37,679 that we have a better grasp of that I 2480 02:08:37,679 --> 02:08:44,750 think it's going to make a difference 2481 02:08:44,760 --> 02:08:46,139 so we're really talking about 2482 02:08:46,139 --> 02:08:50,460 affirmative action and do we ask him for 2483 02:08:50,460 --> 02:08:53,040 these wants and which would be another 2484 02:08:53,040 --> 02:08:58,139 106 240 200 106 249. 2485 02:08:58,139 --> 02:08:59,820 um because we subtract out what's 2486 02:08:59,820 --> 02:09:01,199 already been allocated to him in the 2487 02:09:01,199 --> 02:09:03,840 budget so that would be the additional 2488 02:09:03,840 --> 02:09:07,560 money right 106. yeah in other words we 2489 02:09:07,560 --> 02:09:09,659 don't have to look at the sheet that Mr 2490 02:09:09,659 --> 02:09:11,340 Gardner gave us 2491 02:09:11,340 --> 02:09:14,639 he included his own salary which is 2492 02:09:14,639 --> 02:09:17,040 already in right the existing operating 2493 02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:18,900 budget so right you should take the 2494 02:09:18,900 --> 02:09:21,119 total of 180 what what Ms Porterfield I 2495 02:09:21,119 --> 02:09:22,560 think is saying is if you take a total 2496 02:09:22,560 --> 02:09:24,060 of 182 2497 02:09:24,060 --> 02:09:28,860 uh 684 and subtract Out Mr Gardner's um 2498 02:09:28,860 --> 02:09:31,080 2023 2499 02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:32,400 um it comes down to whatever you just 2500 02:09:32,400 --> 02:09:33,260 said 2501 02:09:33,260 --> 02:09:35,960 did I not make that clear I'm not sure 2502 02:09:35,960 --> 02:09:38,880 does that include no so no oh yeah and 2503 02:09:38,880 --> 02:09:41,159 then plus the benefits yeah the benefits 2504 02:09:41,159 --> 02:09:44,159 are different places yeah it's also an 2505 02:09:44,159 --> 02:09:46,860 added so we get the right numbers right 2506 02:09:46,860 --> 02:09:48,420 yeah we don't we don't put it in this 2507 02:09:48,420 --> 02:09:51,420 budget we put it at the other end plus I 2508 02:09:51,420 --> 02:09:53,639 know but it's still money we have to 2509 02:09:53,639 --> 02:09:55,500 come up with because it also is computer 2510 02:09:55,500 --> 02:09:57,540 years and office furniture for those two 2511 02:09:57,540 --> 02:10:00,300 additional positions I'm just trying to 2512 02:10:00,300 --> 02:10:05,770 get a number of what we're spending yeah 2513 02:10:05,780 --> 02:10:07,940 it doesn't matter 2514 02:10:07,940 --> 02:10:12,540 so it's what 106 plus times seven 2515 02:10:12,540 --> 02:10:28,129 thousand percent so 176 thousand yeah 2516 02:10:28,139 --> 02:10:29,880 I mean it's going to be the same for 2517 02:10:29,880 --> 02:10:37,320 every single position so 2518 02:10:37,320 --> 02:10:39,480 where are we 2519 02:10:39,480 --> 02:10:44,510 up down sideways on this 2520 02:10:44,520 --> 02:10:50,810 okay so we'll need roughly about 176. 2521 02:10:50,820 --> 02:10:52,800 I think we do it 2522 02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:55,320 you know we put it we put the 176 and 2523 02:10:55,320 --> 02:10:56,580 then we see what happens on Wednesday 2524 02:10:56,580 --> 02:11:00,560 when Mr Ferrari yes 2525 02:11:00,560 --> 02:11:05,639 exactly exactly so so now it's codes we 2526 02:11:05,639 --> 02:11:07,159 go to codes 2527 02:11:07,159 --> 02:11:09,599 I gave you the wrong number yesterday it 2528 02:11:09,599 --> 02:11:12,540 uh info specialist four is going to be 2529 02:11:12,540 --> 02:11:24,390 54 000 205.98 last 10 years numbers 2530 02:11:24,400 --> 02:11:29,360 [Music] 2531 02:11:29,360 --> 02:11:37,209 increase of 17 112 dollars 2532 02:11:37,219 --> 02:11:40,080 was that um clerical position a new 2533 02:11:40,080 --> 02:11:41,820 position 2534 02:11:41,820 --> 02:11:43,800 codes I think it was going to be yeah 2535 02:11:43,800 --> 02:11:46,129 that's 2536 02:11:46,139 --> 02:11:53,050 fine I don't see it on the new positions 2537 02:11:53,060 --> 02:11:55,860 and collapse of the position correct yes 2538 02:11:55,860 --> 02:12:01,970 but 2539 02:12:01,980 --> 02:12:12,729 foreign 2540 02:12:12,739 --> 02:12:20,209 thank you 2541 02:12:20,219 --> 02:12:26,750 so there's one vacancy I see okay yes 2542 02:12:26,760 --> 02:12:28,380 that's what you're taking out right yes 2543 02:12:28,380 --> 02:12:35,689 yeah 2544 02:12:35,699 --> 02:12:41,270 I see yeah he only has one right now 2545 02:12:41,280 --> 02:12:44,750 okay 2546 02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:50,880 so total expenses basically 29 000. 2547 02:12:50,880 --> 02:12:55,490 thank you 2548 02:12:55,500 --> 02:12:58,560 so the expense will be 29 yes because 2549 02:12:58,560 --> 02:13:00,900 we're taking away from this 17 2550 02:13:00,900 --> 02:13:04,560 000 times 2.7 got it so because we're 2551 02:13:04,560 --> 02:13:06,900 collapsing that position and he's 2552 02:13:06,900 --> 02:13:09,199 so you're saving on the salary 2553 02:13:09,199 --> 02:13:11,460 difference right so whatever that salary 2554 02:13:11,460 --> 02:13:13,860 is 2555 02:13:13,860 --> 02:13:19,980 okay so the next one is police department meeting 2556 02:13:19,980 --> 02:13:21,840 in these 2557 02:13:21,840 --> 02:13:24,179 positions where they look for upgrades 2558 02:13:24,179 --> 02:13:27,540 uh the news information that clerk's 2559 02:13:27,540 --> 02:13:29,940 office somebody waiting for a civil 2560 02:13:29,940 --> 02:13:32,400 service test 2561 02:13:32,400 --> 02:13:35,280 the rules used to be that David's role 2562 02:13:35,280 --> 02:13:36,380 could 2563 02:13:36,380 --> 02:13:39,719 fail a civil service that's two or three 2564 02:13:39,719 --> 02:13:42,060 times or create a point I'm not good 2565 02:13:42,060 --> 02:13:44,460 civil service now changed the rules 2566 02:13:44,460 --> 02:13:45,960 where 2567 02:13:45,960 --> 02:13:50,699 had a failure of the test have to 2568 02:13:50,699 --> 02:13:53,689 basically fire 2569 02:13:53,699 --> 02:13:56,870 ball 2570 02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:59,119 yeah 2571 02:13:59,119 --> 02:14:03,420 get the notice notify the employee and 2572 02:14:03,420 --> 02:14:06,599 what item listed these better scenarios 2573 02:14:06,599 --> 02:14:09,480 is if we're going to promote these 2574 02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:11,000 people 2575 02:14:11,000 --> 02:14:12,980 do the 2576 02:14:12,980 --> 02:14:16,440 analysis of job duties 2577 02:14:16,440 --> 02:14:18,179 if there's going to be a test or 2578 02:14:18,179 --> 02:14:20,340 certification get it from Civil Service 2579 02:14:20,340 --> 02:14:24,000 first so that we can then move them into 2580 02:14:24,000 --> 02:14:24,980 the position 2581 02:14:24,980 --> 02:14:27,900 permanently and don't have to Jack you 2582 02:14:27,900 --> 02:14:30,189 around 2583 02:14:30,199 --> 02:14:34,380 the likelihood and it definitely puts 2584 02:14:34,380 --> 02:14:36,000 more pressure on them to studying past 2585 02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,119 the tests but we don't have to do the 2586 02:14:39,119 --> 02:14:43,139 maneuvering if they come up short into 2587 02:14:43,139 --> 02:14:44,960 weigh them off 2588 02:14:44,960 --> 02:14:50,330 recreate another position or 2589 02:14:50,340 --> 02:14:56,089 Maneuvers who are complicated system 2590 02:14:56,099 --> 02:14:59,880 so you do the budget amendment 2591 02:14:59,880 --> 02:15:02,820 to 2592 02:15:02,820 --> 02:15:06,420 and these are relatively small amounts 2593 02:15:06,420 --> 02:15:08,699 of money that we're looking at you know 2594 02:15:08,699 --> 02:15:10,800 will make it work 2595 02:15:10,800 --> 02:15:14,810 one way or the other during the year 2596 02:15:14,820 --> 02:15:17,219 if you have to either that or going to 2597 02:15:17,219 --> 02:15:18,840 make the cost of that too especially if 2598 02:15:18,840 --> 02:15:20,219 you have to lease someone off and then 2599 02:15:20,219 --> 02:15:22,020 right right 2600 02:15:22,020 --> 02:15:24,649 okay 2601 02:15:24,659 --> 02:15:27,780 so in code is that what we're talking in 2602 02:15:27,780 --> 02:15:30,420 code right now 2603 02:15:30,420 --> 02:15:50,290 oh yeah we were online 2604 02:15:50,300 --> 02:15:53,159 so now we're on the do not field Police 2605 02:15:53,159 --> 02:15:56,040 Department info no yeah infotech 2606 02:15:56,040 --> 02:15:57,659 specialist did we just finish that or no 2607 02:15:57,659 --> 02:15:58,739 we haven't 2608 02:15:58,739 --> 02:16:02,219 clothing that consensus was it's a 2609 02:16:02,219 --> 02:16:03,840 position 2610 02:16:03,840 --> 02:16:06,360 to be left blank in case somebody didn't 2611 02:16:06,360 --> 02:16:10,980 pass the exam is that what I'm doing or 2612 02:16:10,980 --> 02:16:12,199 well 2613 02:16:12,199 --> 02:16:15,179 that um 2614 02:16:15,179 --> 02:16:17,219 tools for Budget you can't carry it with 2615 02:16:17,219 --> 02:16:19,980 zero salary well I know that so I think 2616 02:16:19,980 --> 02:16:23,350 okay 2617 02:16:23,360 --> 02:16:26,280 it's never going to be filled but we 2618 02:16:26,280 --> 02:16:27,840 have to I can't even find it in the 2619 02:16:27,840 --> 02:16:29,599 budget yeah 2620 02:16:29,599 --> 02:16:32,099 and then we can do a budget amendment 2621 02:16:32,099 --> 02:16:36,009 during the year 2622 02:16:36,019 --> 02:16:39,120 but we'll take the existing position 2623 02:16:39,120 --> 02:16:42,380 change into no Jeff 2624 02:16:42,380 --> 02:16:44,760 the differential 2625 02:16:44,760 --> 02:16:49,559 to it going forward yeah okay what does 2626 02:16:49,559 --> 02:16:51,300 the next one mean no increase to 2627 02:16:51,300 --> 02:16:53,160 part-time employees Public Safety 2628 02:16:53,160 --> 02:16:55,340 Committee Commission 2629 02:16:55,340 --> 02:16:59,040 oh Public Safety commission it was not 2630 02:16:59,040 --> 02:17:01,340 in the budget and then the 2631 02:17:01,340 --> 02:17:04,439 conversational center around the mayor 2632 02:17:04,439 --> 02:17:06,650 has 2633 02:17:06,660 --> 02:17:07,500 yeah 2634 02:17:07,500 --> 02:17:09,120 they missed it 2635 02:17:09,120 --> 02:17:11,340 oh my question was the question was 2636 02:17:11,340 --> 02:17:13,320 submitted to the no increase to 2637 02:17:13,320 --> 02:17:15,559 part-time employees 2638 02:17:15,559 --> 02:17:18,719 reference to Public Safety commissioner 2639 02:17:18,719 --> 02:17:20,760 who's part-time and anybody else's 2640 02:17:20,760 --> 02:17:21,540 Department 2641 02:17:21,540 --> 02:17:23,639 I thought that this I thought that that 2642 02:17:23,639 --> 02:17:27,380 his job was split into two lines 2643 02:17:27,380 --> 02:17:33,349 once in police and one's in fire 2644 02:17:33,359 --> 02:17:34,979 do you know what the salary is that it 2645 02:17:34,979 --> 02:17:37,620 wouldn't be a full-time salary for him I 2646 02:17:37,620 --> 02:17:39,059 thought that one line was 40 something 2647 02:17:39,059 --> 02:17:42,080 and one line 14 22. 2648 02:17:42,080 --> 02:17:46,449 okay 22-5 I think it is 2649 02:17:46,459 --> 02:17:48,840 [Music] 2650 02:17:48,840 --> 02:17:50,460 right 2651 02:17:50,460 --> 02:17:51,960 so what does this mean though no 2652 02:17:51,960 --> 02:17:54,240 increased part-time employees exactly 2653 02:17:54,240 --> 02:17:56,099 what you say should actually get an 2654 02:17:56,099 --> 02:17:59,519 increase of five safety oh no raise 45 2655 02:17:59,519 --> 02:18:03,300 okay I got it now I'm sorry 1800 900 for 2656 02:18:03,300 --> 02:18:04,040 each 2657 02:18:04,040 --> 02:18:07,260 1500 total 2658 02:18:07,260 --> 02:18:10,500 okay now reduce Police Department 2659 02:18:10,500 --> 02:18:12,240 overtime budget 2660 02:18:12,240 --> 02:18:16,610 by 425 000. 2661 02:18:16,620 --> 02:18:18,179 I think that's a whole Saturday 2662 02:18:18,179 --> 02:18:28,370 discussion 2663 02:18:28,380 --> 02:18:29,880 I told you we should have brought 2664 02:18:29,880 --> 02:18:30,670 pastries 2665 02:18:30,670 --> 02:18:34,330 [Music] 2666 02:18:34,340 --> 02:18:41,089 where is that 2667 02:18:41,099 --> 02:18:42,960 31 uh 2668 02:18:42,960 --> 02:18:50,110 21 30 30 31 22 112. 2669 02:18:50,120 --> 02:18:57,469 oh no I get it it's 3 34. 2670 02:18:57,479 --> 02:19:00,540 so I guess would 2671 02:19:00,540 --> 02:19:02,040 how many interviews you're looking at 2672 02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:03,899 two or three hires but that actually 2673 02:19:03,899 --> 02:19:05,280 offset 2674 02:19:05,280 --> 02:19:10,429 400 000 worth of work 2675 02:19:10,439 --> 02:19:15,660 31 12 31 22 112. 2676 02:19:15,660 --> 02:19:17,939 it's a million eight 2677 02:19:17,939 --> 02:19:19,559 we could actually you know pick somebody 2678 02:19:19,559 --> 02:19:20,939 here take some of our different 2679 02:19:20,939 --> 02:19:23,519 departments to equal 425 too you know 2680 02:19:23,519 --> 02:19:27,780 I'm just saying if I don't not arguing 2681 02:19:27,780 --> 02:19:30,599 it I'm just asking the question is 2682 02:19:30,599 --> 02:19:32,880 we're going to get basically three hires 2683 02:19:32,880 --> 02:19:34,139 for that 2684 02:19:34,139 --> 02:19:36,420 are we going to get 400 2685 02:19:36,420 --> 02:19:40,380 000 25 425 000 worth of overtime right 2686 02:19:40,380 --> 02:19:42,660 with those three people so those numbers 2687 02:19:42,660 --> 02:19:44,330 correlate hmm 2688 02:19:44,330 --> 02:19:50,030 [Music] 2689 02:19:50,040 --> 02:19:52,439 I think this so that's what this says 2690 02:19:52,439 --> 02:19:54,060 right take away the overtime but add 2691 02:19:54,060 --> 02:19:55,820 three officers 2692 02:19:55,820 --> 02:20:00,550 the amount of officers 2693 02:20:00,560 --> 02:20:03,300 from last year on the chief was before 2694 02:20:03,300 --> 02:20:07,140 us uh hire more officer before you came 2695 02:20:07,140 --> 02:20:08,820 to the Continental hire more officers 2696 02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:12,300 while um we're Jews over time this year 2697 02:20:12,300 --> 02:20:16,439 again was the same um discussion 2698 02:20:16,439 --> 02:20:19,380 um by hiring more officer there's a new 2699 02:20:19,380 --> 02:20:23,220 technology to reduce overtime cars so 2700 02:20:23,220 --> 02:20:26,160 the question economic interpreter rights 2701 02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:28,520 and I can get help from this 2702 02:20:28,520 --> 02:20:31,920 reduce the overtime because that will 2703 02:20:31,920 --> 02:20:34,140 stay to you and continue to hire more 2704 02:20:34,140 --> 02:20:35,520 officer 2705 02:20:35,520 --> 02:20:37,439 so when I hit the managing officers were 2706 02:20:37,439 --> 02:20:39,300 just 2707 02:20:39,300 --> 02:20:42,020 eliminating the hit the time cause 2708 02:20:42,020 --> 02:20:44,760 putting down money for as uh officers 2709 02:20:44,760 --> 02:20:47,939 hiring officers yes but Mr palamines the 2710 02:20:47,939 --> 02:20:50,700 question is if we're cutting that over 2711 02:20:50,700 --> 02:20:55,200 time and hiring and the the new hires 2712 02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:56,960 are those 2713 02:20:56,960 --> 02:20:59,220 funded they're fun they're funding 2714 02:20:59,220 --> 02:21:01,040 that's the question 2715 02:21:01,040 --> 02:21:03,540 no I understand that I'm talking about 2716 02:21:03,540 --> 02:21:05,120 in terms of work 2717 02:21:05,120 --> 02:21:10,560 so yeah the hours so if we hire it's 2718 02:21:10,560 --> 02:21:12,899 going to be basically three officers 2719 02:21:12,899 --> 02:21:14,819 maybe four 2720 02:21:14,819 --> 02:21:17,819 with that money are we going to get the 2721 02:21:17,819 --> 02:21:20,960 same amount of work in terms of hours 2722 02:21:20,960 --> 02:21:24,899 out of those new hires as we would with 2723 02:21:24,899 --> 02:21:29,060 425 000 overtime 2724 02:21:29,060 --> 02:21:32,100 I understand and I'm not saying not to 2725 02:21:32,100 --> 02:21:34,260 do I'm just asking the question yeah 2726 02:21:34,260 --> 02:21:36,420 well one of the other things that a 2727 02:21:36,420 --> 02:21:38,880 chief said was by US enter into this 2728 02:21:38,880 --> 02:21:40,260 axon 2729 02:21:40,260 --> 02:21:41,760 um 2730 02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:43,979 contract that that was going to reduce 2731 02:21:43,979 --> 02:21:46,260 some police hours that now they spent 2732 02:21:46,260 --> 02:21:48,060 doing paperwork or whatever they were 2733 02:21:48,060 --> 02:21:50,220 doing or pulling down data for their 2734 02:21:50,220 --> 02:21:52,620 cameras and all that that was figured in 2735 02:21:52,620 --> 02:21:54,240 and that we should see some reductions 2736 02:21:54,240 --> 02:21:56,160 there as well 2737 02:21:56,160 --> 02:21:58,140 so let's hope that when we do some of 2738 02:21:58,140 --> 02:22:00,240 that over time but I think and please 2739 02:22:00,240 --> 02:22:01,800 help me out with this that it's going to 2740 02:22:01,800 --> 02:22:05,040 be a Mr Williams that there's a ramp up 2741 02:22:05,040 --> 02:22:07,140 to the axon and we don't even have that 2742 02:22:07,140 --> 02:22:10,800 stuff on hand yet right I mean all that 2743 02:22:10,800 --> 02:22:12,600 equipment maybe they're putting the 2744 02:22:12,600 --> 02:22:13,800 orders in 2745 02:22:13,800 --> 02:22:17,939 but um and then they have to yeah we 2746 02:22:17,939 --> 02:22:21,120 have to get it oh online it has to come 2747 02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:23,880 online in terms of getting it used so 2748 02:22:23,880 --> 02:22:27,780 let's say it gets on online by June it's 2749 02:22:27,780 --> 02:22:29,880 still going to take it's not going to 2750 02:22:29,880 --> 02:22:32,700 reduce the police I should say increase 2751 02:22:32,700 --> 02:22:34,979 the police efficiency because I think 2752 02:22:34,979 --> 02:22:37,020 the way that it was it was wood 2753 02:22:37,020 --> 02:22:37,500 [Music] 2754 02:22:37,500 --> 02:22:38,520 um 2755 02:22:38,520 --> 02:22:40,560 it's going to take some time for them to 2756 02:22:40,560 --> 02:22:43,319 be using the new equipment 2757 02:22:43,319 --> 02:22:46,319 um in order for us to see an outcome 2758 02:22:46,319 --> 02:22:47,819 um that would make a difference I guess 2759 02:22:47,819 --> 02:22:49,319 is what I'm thinking I didn't think 2760 02:22:49,319 --> 02:22:50,819 there was that much lead time first of 2761 02:22:50,819 --> 02:22:52,680 all I don't know why understanding is um 2762 02:22:52,680 --> 02:22:55,500 there was no this already exists it's 2763 02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:57,359 not something that we have to buy you 2764 02:22:57,359 --> 02:22:58,920 know the technology and a lot of it is 2765 02:22:58,920 --> 02:23:01,920 technology already exists 2766 02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:04,280 program already 2767 02:23:04,280 --> 02:23:06,359 using it oh no I know I went to the 2768 02:23:06,359 --> 02:23:09,899 screen I went to the yeah so seminar but 2769 02:23:09,899 --> 02:23:11,160 I mean I think that you know they'll 2770 02:23:11,160 --> 02:23:13,979 have to put the stuff into cars and I 2771 02:23:13,979 --> 02:23:15,780 mean I don't know I'm just saying it's 2772 02:23:15,780 --> 02:23:17,280 not going to happen overnight that we're 2773 02:23:17,280 --> 02:23:19,020 going to see 2774 02:23:19,020 --> 02:23:20,700 um but hopefully we will see long term 2775 02:23:20,700 --> 02:23:27,000 the next year's budget yeah I'm okay with the offset I was just 2776 02:23:27,000 --> 02:23:29,700 asking the question but I think that's 2777 02:23:29,700 --> 02:23:31,020 an important question to ask and I think 2778 02:23:31,020 --> 02:23:32,939 with that so I'm not we need to so you 2779 02:23:32,939 --> 02:23:37,080 know is it if it offsets and you 2780 02:23:37,080 --> 02:23:38,420 know then 2781 02:23:38,420 --> 02:23:41,100 you know if I think that that's maybe we 2782 02:23:41,100 --> 02:23:44,100 should pose up to the Chiefs I think so 2783 02:23:44,100 --> 02:23:45,420 too 2784 02:23:45,420 --> 02:23:48,060 some of those savings assumptions were 2785 02:23:48,060 --> 02:23:51,060 put in the budget that I presented to 2786 02:23:51,060 --> 02:23:54,240 you and that you know we're still seeing 2787 02:23:54,240 --> 02:23:56,399 an uptick in crime we're in many 2788 02:23:56,399 --> 02:23:59,280 respects doing better than some of our 2789 02:23:59,280 --> 02:24:04,790 sister cities in the area but 2790 02:24:04,800 --> 02:24:06,600 it's unfortunate it's putting more 2791 02:24:06,600 --> 02:24:10,080 demands of the Holy Spirit 2792 02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:13,979 yeah I think so too 2793 02:24:13,979 --> 02:24:21,170 so that's religion right for me 2794 02:24:21,180 --> 02:24:23,399 skeptical watch so you are for the color 2795 02:24:23,399 --> 02:24:25,260 of that magnitude and the police all the 2796 02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:27,420 time I just don't believe you can live 2797 02:24:27,420 --> 02:24:30,060 up to that number 2798 02:24:30,060 --> 02:24:31,319 I mean I think we're going to be putting 2799 02:24:31,319 --> 02:24:33,000 some more strain on them too if we need 2800 02:24:33,000 --> 02:24:34,439 to go with some of the traffic things 2801 02:24:34,439 --> 02:24:36,840 that we're hoping that they'll enforce I 2802 02:24:36,840 --> 02:24:40,500 mean they are worthy by Major Crimes you 2803 02:24:40,500 --> 02:24:43,200 know so sometimes the traffic stuff 2804 02:24:43,200 --> 02:24:45,240 doesn't get the same level of attention 2805 02:24:45,240 --> 02:24:47,280 but now we're going to be asking them to 2806 02:24:47,280 --> 02:24:50,300 try to step up some of that enforcement 2807 02:24:50,300 --> 02:24:54,420 new technology the technology that also 2808 02:24:54,420 --> 02:24:57,120 I mean like speed limit I mean I don't 2809 02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:01,450 know I'm just saying I mean 2810 02:25:01,460 --> 02:25:03,840 all right next 2811 02:25:03,840 --> 02:25:09,790 [Music] 2812 02:25:09,800 --> 02:25:14,100 so next the safety Foundation I got a 2813 02:25:14,100 --> 02:25:16,389 problem 2814 02:25:16,399 --> 02:25:19,439 everything was rolling together up to 2815 02:25:19,439 --> 02:25:22,319 the 402 line yeah is that right okay 2816 02:25:22,319 --> 02:25:24,600 because yeah but you know we do have it 2817 02:25:24,600 --> 02:25:26,340 separated you know we asked for the 2818 02:25:26,340 --> 02:25:28,380 detail it comes out but you know when 2819 02:25:28,380 --> 02:25:30,359 you're looking for a total number can I 2820 02:25:30,359 --> 02:25:33,420 show you the total 404 you know so the 2821 02:25:33,420 --> 02:25:34,979 reason we want we want to see how much 2822 02:25:34,979 --> 02:25:36,840 money is being spent against each the 2823 02:25:36,840 --> 02:25:40,439 foundation line and the Outreach right 2824 02:25:40,439 --> 02:25:42,300 and to make sure this body is used 2825 02:25:42,300 --> 02:25:45,359 towards what we approve for 2826 02:25:45,359 --> 02:25:47,580 and if they need more money well you 2827 02:25:47,580 --> 02:25:49,640 know why there's always room to ask 2828 02:25:49,640 --> 02:25:52,140 although just a side note I do think we 2829 02:25:52,140 --> 02:25:54,500 should re-examine I remember 2830 02:25:54,500 --> 02:25:57,060 so it's not just limited to athletic 2831 02:25:57,060 --> 02:26:01,020 events yes I have two habits on a minute 2832 02:26:01,020 --> 02:26:04,570 let's go okay 2833 02:26:04,580 --> 02:26:07,140 so special police officer removed from 2834 02:26:07,140 --> 02:26:08,880 Arbor and assigned to General funds so 2835 02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:11,340 that is that's one of the things I like 2836 02:26:11,340 --> 02:26:15,960 saying if you're gonna cut 124 425 but 2837 02:26:15,960 --> 02:26:20,450 yeah wait till 2024. 2838 02:26:20,460 --> 02:26:24,420 because that's 125 000. that's 125 000. 2839 02:26:24,420 --> 02:26:27,000 and I know we'll get that you're saying 2840 02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,040 they do a great job down there 2841 02:26:29,040 --> 02:26:31,020 present the numbers to us 2842 02:26:31,020 --> 02:26:35,630 um 2843 02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:38,180 and then property evidence Specialists 2844 02:26:38,180 --> 02:26:40,620 that's the same thing is that forty 2845 02:26:40,620 --> 02:26:43,550 thousand five 2846 02:26:43,560 --> 02:26:52,670 numbers right there do you 2847 02:26:52,680 --> 02:26:54,060 all right 2848 02:26:54,060 --> 02:27:00,170 it's 40 times at a time 2849 02:27:00,180 --> 02:27:03,000 Anthony were these uh Physicians with 2850 02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:06,479 the arpa was the benefits also part of 2851 02:27:06,479 --> 02:27:08,640 the earth for the special police 2852 02:27:08,640 --> 02:27:09,850 officers no benefits 2853 02:27:09,850 --> 02:27:17,889 [Music] 2854 02:27:17,899 --> 02:27:20,880 yeah I just want to make sure no health 2855 02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:23,939 insurance accurate ideas of how much we 2856 02:27:23,939 --> 02:27:25,560 need to come up with 2857 02:27:25,560 --> 02:27:27,540 all right so we are we at the clerk's 2858 02:27:27,540 --> 02:27:30,840 office now yes all right so 2859 02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:33,479 that's back I think so this is similar 2860 02:27:33,479 --> 02:27:36,590 to the 2861 02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:40,790 infotech specialist right 2862 02:27:40,800 --> 02:27:44,700 somebody needs to be moved okay 2863 02:27:44,700 --> 02:27:48,240 what he said yes 2864 02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,600 I'm fine with that then response unless 2865 02:27:51,600 --> 02:27:52,620 we need to 2866 02:27:52,620 --> 02:27:56,700 I mean we're at the stipend we discuss 2867 02:27:56,700 --> 02:28:00,120 that sniper so we're going faster now 2868 02:28:00,120 --> 02:28:03,170 here 2869 02:28:03,180 --> 02:28:06,960 so no additional stipends or 2870 02:28:06,960 --> 02:28:11,210 like 2871 02:28:11,220 --> 02:28:12,960 you know 2872 02:28:12,960 --> 02:28:14,819 in our department 2873 02:28:14,819 --> 02:28:17,220 five piece we're going to reduce it back 2874 02:28:17,220 --> 02:28:20,389 to three a piece 2875 02:28:20,399 --> 02:28:26,870 and it's like 2876 02:28:26,880 --> 02:28:28,680 so are we on the reduce the mayor's 2877 02:28:28,680 --> 02:28:30,540 recruitment budget 2878 02:28:30,540 --> 02:28:31,380 um 2879 02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:46,750 it's from 25 to 10. 2880 02:28:46,760 --> 02:28:51,300 resumes are coming in yeah yeah 2881 02:28:51,300 --> 02:28:53,939 only because it gives him if we're not 2882 02:28:53,939 --> 02:28:56,520 using it then why 25 why not go back so 2883 02:28:56,520 --> 02:29:00,380 he has the original as 50. I got done 2884 02:29:00,380 --> 02:29:05,399 yeah he said he'd make it work okay 2885 02:29:05,399 --> 02:29:06,740 now 2886 02:29:06,740 --> 02:29:09,720 management three percent across the 2887 02:29:09,720 --> 02:29:10,500 board 2888 02:29:10,500 --> 02:29:17,510 rather than four percent 2889 02:29:17,520 --> 02:29:20,840 we hear about how it is 2890 02:29:20,840 --> 02:29:22,979 you're talking 2891 02:29:22,979 --> 02:29:24,720 um I I think you guys have the numbers 2892 02:29:24,720 --> 02:29:28,960 what's the difference yeah oh yeah 2893 02:29:28,970 --> 02:29:31,080 [Music] 2894 02:29:31,080 --> 02:29:35,050 um 2895 02:29:35,060 --> 02:29:38,140 yeah here it is 2896 02:29:38,140 --> 02:29:46,690 [Music] 2897 02:29:46,700 --> 02:29:49,439 you're talking about 2898 02:29:49,439 --> 02:29:53,570 63.64 2899 02:29:53,580 --> 02:29:57,439 000 so 6400. 2900 02:29:57,439 --> 02:29:59,880 I think you would have a better response 2901 02:29:59,880 --> 02:30:01,439 but imagine that given the four percent 2902 02:30:01,439 --> 02:30:03,720 because really if not nobody really said 2903 02:30:03,720 --> 02:30:05,880 anything they've receive it four percent 2904 02:30:05,880 --> 02:30:08,100 uh even last night Kristen says you know 2905 02:30:08,100 --> 02:30:09,899 everybody got across the board everybody 2906 02:30:09,899 --> 02:30:12,240 was pretty much happy at four percent 2907 02:30:12,240 --> 02:30:15,180 I I would vote for keeping at four 2908 02:30:15,180 --> 02:30:16,560 percent 2909 02:30:16,560 --> 02:30:21,030 I don't know who suggested that one but 2910 02:30:21,040 --> 02:30:24,020 [Music] 2911 02:30:24,020 --> 02:30:30,800 right here yeah 2912 02:30:30,800 --> 02:30:33,540 we talked about City Finance I mean this 2913 02:30:33,540 --> 02:30:36,420 is I mean four percent yes yes we talked 2914 02:30:36,420 --> 02:30:42,070 about um forever 2915 02:30:42,080 --> 02:30:44,040 salary 2916 02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:45,899 are we in a position to give everybody a 2917 02:30:45,899 --> 02:30:47,280 four percent raise we talked about how 2918 02:30:47,280 --> 02:30:49,380 the City Finance is not 2919 02:30:49,380 --> 02:30:51,600 really really good 2920 02:30:51,600 --> 02:30:53,280 did you hear how much the difference the 2921 02:30:53,280 --> 02:30:54,140 difference 2922 02:30:54,140 --> 02:30:56,939 I know yeah but every dollars come 2923 02:30:56,939 --> 02:30:58,859 towards 2924 02:30:58,859 --> 02:31:04,270 but you if if you give three years 2925 02:31:04,280 --> 02:31:07,319 yeah I think so 2926 02:31:07,319 --> 02:31:18,270 um 2927 02:31:18,280 --> 02:31:22,550 [Music] 2928 02:31:22,560 --> 02:31:24,180 make sure we'll make sure that we ask 2929 02:31:24,180 --> 02:31:26,700 every one of them that comes before us 2930 02:31:26,700 --> 02:31:32,280 I I think though that also um 2931 02:31:32,280 --> 02:31:35,040 I mean going back to the morale issue I 2932 02:31:35,040 --> 02:31:37,680 mean they already feel well I don't know 2933 02:31:37,680 --> 02:31:39,540 yeah I think I would still support the 2934 02:31:39,540 --> 02:31:41,399 four percent and then we will worry 2935 02:31:41,399 --> 02:31:42,780 about next year I hear what you're 2936 02:31:42,780 --> 02:31:44,700 saying instrument of Aaron but now 2937 02:31:44,700 --> 02:31:48,359 what's the race next year but I would 2938 02:31:48,359 --> 02:31:53,650 rather cross that bridge next year 2939 02:31:53,660 --> 02:32:01,030 [Music] 2940 02:32:01,040 --> 02:32:04,080 you know every department has for much 2941 02:32:04,080 --> 02:32:06,780 bigger races and the four percent they 2942 02:32:06,780 --> 02:32:08,460 all were happy about it and the Lego 2943 02:32:08,460 --> 02:32:11,150 citizens 2944 02:32:11,160 --> 02:32:16,870 okay 2945 02:32:16,880 --> 02:32:19,620 we're gonna make the four yes 2946 02:32:19,620 --> 02:32:29,349 uncomfortable yeah does everybody 2947 02:32:29,359 --> 02:32:32,220 waiting on that 2948 02:32:32,220 --> 02:32:40,570 or we just want to do comparison 2949 02:32:40,580 --> 02:32:43,140 that's it I'm not sure what John's 2950 02:32:43,140 --> 02:32:44,700 talking about at this point I'm a little 2951 02:32:44,700 --> 02:32:48,469 confused 2952 02:32:48,479 --> 02:32:50,240 you mean the comparison 2953 02:32:50,240 --> 02:32:52,979 right four percent yeah 2954 02:32:52,979 --> 02:32:55,200 well the comparison it's just one 2955 02:32:55,200 --> 02:33:00,960 percent of 64 000 so that's 6400 2956 02:33:00,960 --> 02:33:03,120 are you saying no I understand about the 2957 02:33:03,120 --> 02:33:05,040 things that we can't just move forward 2958 02:33:05,040 --> 02:33:07,380 two or three people saying that PS4 or 2959 02:33:07,380 --> 02:33:09,660 three but uh let's just let it go we 2960 02:33:09,660 --> 02:33:12,120 need to we need to get uncomfortable the 2961 02:33:12,120 --> 02:33:14,100 total budget what we've been talking 2962 02:33:14,100 --> 02:33:16,260 about all the way through the line is 2963 02:33:16,260 --> 02:33:19,020 that next Wednesday we're going to see 2964 02:33:19,020 --> 02:33:21,420 how all of this affects 2965 02:33:21,420 --> 02:33:23,040 um but I think you could do kind of 2966 02:33:23,040 --> 02:33:27,700 straw 2967 02:33:27,710 --> 02:33:36,309 [Music] 2968 02:33:36,319 --> 02:33:39,000 let's say I was fine with the four 2969 02:33:39,000 --> 02:33:41,700 percent that's why I was arguing to 2970 02:33:41,700 --> 02:33:44,220 eliminate the new stipends and the 2971 02:33:44,220 --> 02:33:49,730 increases in seconds 2972 02:33:49,740 --> 02:33:51,720 what you're saying so let's move on that 2973 02:33:51,720 --> 02:33:53,220 you're saying yeah until we get the 2974 02:33:53,220 --> 02:33:56,580 figures back yeah let's move on 2975 02:33:56,580 --> 02:34:00,260 there's no argument yeah 2976 02:34:00,260 --> 02:34:03,780 Deputy Finance commissioner 2977 02:34:03,780 --> 02:34:10,389 it's a 2200 increase 2978 02:34:10,399 --> 02:34:13,200 oh this kind of gets back to the last 2979 02:34:13,200 --> 02:34:16,500 piece that we're giving everybody 23 or 2980 02:34:16,500 --> 02:34:17,720 four percent 2981 02:34:17,720 --> 02:34:20,280 and now you're starting to say that 2982 02:34:20,280 --> 02:34:22,380 certain people are getting difference Mr 2983 02:34:22,380 --> 02:34:25,080 Ferrari made a case for this position 2984 02:34:25,080 --> 02:34:26,760 can you 2985 02:34:26,760 --> 02:34:27,780 thank you 2986 02:34:27,780 --> 02:34:30,420 well a couple of things just like any 2987 02:34:30,420 --> 02:34:32,220 part that came in here and said 2988 02:34:32,220 --> 02:34:33,240 something 2989 02:34:33,240 --> 02:34:36,359 it does not reflect my position 2990 02:34:36,359 --> 02:34:38,460 and I've got to manage the day-to-day 2991 02:34:38,460 --> 02:34:40,979 operations I've submitted a budget to 2992 02:34:40,979 --> 02:34:43,859 you these people worked for me most of 2993 02:34:43,859 --> 02:34:45,700 them I hired 2994 02:34:45,700 --> 02:34:47,280 [Music] 2995 02:34:47,280 --> 02:34:50,340 you applicate and make it more difficult 2996 02:34:50,340 --> 02:34:53,040 for me to do the day-to-day job when you 2997 02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:57,650 get out in some of these paths 2998 02:34:57,660 --> 02:35:00,889 okay 2999 02:35:00,899 --> 02:35:42,360 foreign 3000 02:35:42,370 --> 02:35:48,530 [Music] 3001 02:35:48,540 --> 02:35:50,840 and just you know we've talked about 3002 02:35:50,840 --> 02:35:53,580 bonuses in the world I think that you 3003 02:35:53,580 --> 02:35:55,620 know at the position that he's in as 3004 02:35:55,620 --> 02:35:57,060 Deputy Commissioner 3005 02:35:57,060 --> 02:36:03,840 the other Deputy Commissioner of uh ogs is uh at 104 000 and we're not 3006 02:36:03,840 --> 02:36:05,340 asking for 3007 02:36:05,340 --> 02:36:07,020 that much you know they're only asking 3008 02:36:07,020 --> 02:36:09,060 for twenty two hundred dollars for two 3009 02:36:09,060 --> 02:36:16,969 thousand four hundred a month 3010 02:36:16,979 --> 02:36:19,979 but I have a zero issue with exceptions 3011 02:36:19,979 --> 02:36:23,870 and special considerations 3012 02:36:23,880 --> 02:36:47,300 foreign 3013 02:36:47,310 --> 02:36:53,030 [Music] 3014 02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:56,700 what's that I think I feel um hearing 3015 02:36:56,700 --> 02:36:59,160 from the mayor as well that it seems 3016 02:36:59,160 --> 02:37:02,160 like the mayor and department heads 3017 02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:04,140 should have those conversations outside 3018 02:37:04,140 --> 02:37:07,439 of this meeting but 3019 02:37:07,439 --> 02:37:20,870 because we're not really um 3020 02:37:20,880 --> 02:37:23,220 yeah 3021 02:37:23,220 --> 02:37:56,180 foreign 3022 02:37:56,190 --> 02:38:31,380 [Music] 3023 02:38:31,380 --> 02:38:32,880 next one 3024 02:38:32,880 --> 02:38:38,349 to the engineers 3025 02:38:38,359 --> 02:38:41,650 yesterday 3026 02:38:41,660 --> 02:38:44,939 this increase should be given for this 3027 02:38:44,939 --> 02:38:46,380 individual 3028 02:38:46,380 --> 02:38:49,580 I think the recommendations made so 135 3029 02:38:49,580 --> 02:38:52,439 lower than what was last for last 3030 02:38:52,439 --> 02:38:55,130 evening 3031 02:38:55,140 --> 02:38:59,570 a couple of questions 3032 02:38:59,580 --> 02:39:04,370 [Music] 3033 02:39:04,380 --> 02:39:07,570 TV 3034 02:39:07,580 --> 02:39:11,060 215. it was really 119 3035 02:39:11,060 --> 02:39:15,950 26 180 actually 3036 02:39:15,960 --> 02:39:18,960 I think there's a number of uh a lot of 3037 02:39:18,960 --> 02:39:21,120 those benefits already in here at a 150 3038 02:39:21,120 --> 02:39:24,000 right but there's I'm just doing the 3039 02:39:24,000 --> 02:39:26,640 amount so it's twenty six thousand one 3040 02:39:26,640 --> 02:39:37,790 hundred eighty dollars 3041 02:39:37,800 --> 02:40:06,710 foreign 3042 02:40:06,720 --> 02:40:10,880 if he uh we are from the 3043 02:40:10,880 --> 02:40:13,319 Departments of development and the 3044 02:40:13,319 --> 02:40:14,280 director 3045 02:40:14,280 --> 02:40:20,280 about asking for tremendous of 65 000. 3046 02:40:20,280 --> 02:40:22,680 professionals to put this on as a 3047 02:40:22,680 --> 02:40:24,899 recommendation 3048 02:40:24,899 --> 02:40:48,410 open questions 3049 02:40:48,420 --> 02:40:50,660 it's an additional 11 3050 02:40:50,660 --> 02:41:05,570 170 dollars 3051 02:41:05,580 --> 02:41:08,160 just in support of this position and you 3052 02:41:08,160 --> 02:41:09,600 know we the mayor said that we're going 3053 02:41:09,600 --> 02:41:11,160 to get like so many houses in 3054 02:41:11,160 --> 02:41:12,960 foreclosure that we have to sell and all 3055 02:41:12,960 --> 02:41:15,840 that and so that's where um the majority 3056 02:41:15,840 --> 02:41:17,460 of this work Falls 3057 02:41:17,460 --> 02:41:20,760 so just to be clear about that and and 3058 02:41:20,760 --> 02:41:23,520 Miss Diaz didn't say that was why but I 3059 02:41:23,520 --> 02:41:25,680 think we all already knew that 3060 02:41:25,680 --> 02:41:28,439 but but she did recommend um the 3061 02:41:28,439 --> 02:41:29,520 additional 3062 02:41:29,520 --> 02:41:31,800 um she did ask for that amount of money 3063 02:41:31,800 --> 02:41:39,590 for this position 3064 02:41:39,600 --> 02:41:42,000 I think Bernice has done a great job I 3065 02:41:42,000 --> 02:41:42,720 just 3066 02:41:42,720 --> 02:41:44,760 and it's not just his position It's all 3067 02:41:44,760 --> 02:41:46,740 where is this money gonna come from so 3068 02:41:46,740 --> 02:41:49,319 that's I think the overarching question 3069 02:41:49,319 --> 02:41:54,610 yeah I think Maurice has been awesome 3070 02:41:54,620 --> 02:41:58,080 from Maurice that he's a Community 3071 02:41:58,080 --> 02:42:00,380 Development 3072 02:42:00,380 --> 02:42:02,520 supplemented by the Grant from Community 3073 02:42:02,520 --> 02:42:04,740 Development oh so some of this would 3074 02:42:04,740 --> 02:42:37,790 come out of there yeah 3075 02:42:37,800 --> 02:42:43,389 you know 3076 02:42:43,399 --> 02:42:54,170 this report 3077 02:42:54,180 --> 02:42:57,359 so the next one is a principal billing 3078 02:42:57,359 --> 02:43:00,080 um audit and AP clerk we heard from um 3079 02:43:00,080 --> 02:43:04,020 on this position 3080 02:43:04,020 --> 02:43:06,600 I think his position was asking for like 3081 02:43:06,600 --> 02:43:11,240 about 70. 11 something 17 yeah so yeah 3082 02:43:11,240 --> 02:43:21,070 it's 17 increases 3083 02:43:21,080 --> 02:43:23,399 something like that so the question was 3084 02:43:23,399 --> 02:43:25,740 asked since this is a principal billing 3085 02:43:25,740 --> 02:43:27,660 audit work we heard that this person's 3086 02:43:27,660 --> 02:43:30,920 also do an I.T work related work 3087 02:43:30,920 --> 02:43:34,640 uh the question has split it in half 3088 02:43:34,640 --> 02:43:39,660 rather than the 17 to 5006 and I just 3089 02:43:39,660 --> 02:43:41,399 made a notation with the number there 3090 02:43:41,399 --> 02:43:43,979 but I will have to factor in benefits 3091 02:43:43,979 --> 02:43:45,680 also 3092 02:43:45,680 --> 02:43:49,630 9591 dollars 3093 02:43:49,640 --> 02:43:56,150 yep that's including benefit 3094 02:43:56,160 --> 02:43:59,450 okay 3095 02:43:59,460 --> 02:44:02,780 the next one is just a statement 3096 02:44:02,780 --> 02:44:05,399 assigned to general fund 3097 02:44:05,399 --> 02:44:09,120 Mr Ferrari will do the the matter and 3098 02:44:09,120 --> 02:44:10,740 the president does 3099 02:44:10,740 --> 02:44:14,060 he heat fuel increase 3100 02:44:14,060 --> 02:44:20,160 for both lines one is Golf and one is 3101 02:44:20,160 --> 02:44:23,939 um in uh it was some place or something 3102 02:44:23,939 --> 02:44:26,100 no I don't think it was I think both of 3103 02:44:26,100 --> 02:44:29,540 those four thousands 3104 02:44:29,540 --> 02:44:31,859 one of them is golf but the other one is 3105 02:44:31,859 --> 02:44:41,349 the building uh facilities facilities 3106 02:44:41,359 --> 02:44:43,319 was under 3107 02:44:43,319 --> 02:44:45,300 in other words these two numbers I put 3108 02:44:45,300 --> 02:44:47,399 these in because they were mentioned to 3109 02:44:47,399 --> 02:44:50,939 us in the department heads presentation 3110 02:44:50,939 --> 02:44:52,399 um but 3111 02:44:52,399 --> 02:44:55,800 clearly and honestly I I didn't have the 3112 02:44:55,800 --> 02:44:59,700 time but there's these lines are in many 3113 02:44:59,700 --> 02:45:02,760 other places and 3114 02:45:02,760 --> 02:45:05,100 Mr Lafond actually said that he thought 3115 02:45:05,100 --> 02:45:06,660 they were underestimated or something I 3116 02:45:06,660 --> 02:45:08,280 can't remember the word that he used 3117 02:45:08,280 --> 02:45:16,550 that was correct 3118 02:45:16,560 --> 02:45:20,889 yeah 3119 02:45:20,899 --> 02:45:23,899 we used to do it more Consolidated 3120 02:45:23,899 --> 02:45:26,280 allocation this now it's broken down by 3121 02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:30,000 the cartons to give better tracking 3122 02:45:30,000 --> 02:45:32,640 uh Anthony should we look at this 3123 02:45:32,640 --> 02:45:34,740 collectively because most of these 3124 02:45:34,740 --> 02:45:37,200 numbers start to put together in May and 3125 02:45:37,200 --> 02:45:40,560 June before some of the bigger increases 3126 02:45:40,560 --> 02:45:42,720 happen and we've come up with some 3127 02:45:42,720 --> 02:45:45,720 posted each line getting adjusted 3128 02:45:45,720 --> 02:45:50,100 do a lump sum of we've we've done that 3129 02:45:50,100 --> 02:45:52,760 for golf I've been excuse me for gas 3130 02:45:52,760 --> 02:45:55,380 gasoline and stuff like that but then 3131 02:45:55,380 --> 02:45:57,240 the console always asks for the details 3132 02:45:57,240 --> 02:46:00,120 of it so so we can I have no problem 3133 02:46:00,120 --> 02:46:02,939 doing that for us it's a lot easier well 3134 02:46:02,939 --> 02:46:04,740 I actually because I was wondering that 3135 02:46:04,740 --> 02:46:06,060 as we've been going through and again 3136 02:46:06,060 --> 02:46:08,700 it's only my third budget 3137 02:46:08,700 --> 02:46:12,240 time but it did seem to me that there 3138 02:46:12,240 --> 02:46:14,460 were several places where I kind of 3139 02:46:14,460 --> 02:46:16,260 thought why are we you know 3140 02:46:16,260 --> 02:46:19,439 why are we not doing this as one sum 3141 02:46:19,439 --> 02:46:22,620 because for efficiency's sake right it 3142 02:46:22,620 --> 02:46:24,540 was that I mean I was thinking in terms 3143 02:46:24,540 --> 02:46:26,580 of some of the arborist Kinds of Kinds 3144 02:46:26,580 --> 02:46:28,140 of things that are in the budget as well 3145 02:46:28,140 --> 02:46:30,060 yeah but they everybody that came for 3146 02:46:30,060 --> 02:46:31,620 the harbors told us their particular 3147 02:46:31,620 --> 02:46:33,620 reason why they needed an art person 3148 02:46:33,620 --> 02:46:36,240 it's like you know over one I don't know 3149 02:46:36,240 --> 02:46:38,640 but I'm just saying again I felt the 3150 02:46:38,640 --> 02:46:40,520 same way 3151 02:46:40,520 --> 02:46:42,720 you put in the bargain for the artist 3152 02:46:42,720 --> 02:46:48,490 you might get the one our first 3153 02:46:48,500 --> 02:46:50,410 let's go 3154 02:46:50,410 --> 02:46:52,260 [Music] 3155 02:46:52,260 --> 02:46:56,220 we buy the fuel involved one way and 3156 02:46:56,220 --> 02:46:58,620 then it's not like somebody goes to the 3157 02:46:58,620 --> 02:47:00,200 gas station 3158 02:47:00,200 --> 02:47:04,680 so we could leave these lines in place 3159 02:47:04,680 --> 02:47:07,740 but in the final budget the council 3160 02:47:07,740 --> 02:47:09,359 adapt and 3161 02:47:09,359 --> 02:47:11,460 X number of dollars that we would have 3162 02:47:11,460 --> 02:47:14,819 been allocating back to these lines and 3163 02:47:14,819 --> 02:47:16,680 if the lines are initially in the lower 3164 02:47:16,680 --> 02:47:18,359 level it's both in the center for the 3165 02:47:18,359 --> 02:47:20,399 Departments to try and stay within that 3166 02:47:20,399 --> 02:47:24,110 I think that's a good solution yeah 3167 02:47:24,110 --> 02:47:31,730 [Music] 3168 02:47:31,740 --> 02:47:39,230 it was going to be realistic 3169 02:47:39,240 --> 02:47:42,420 so we're moving on from the next one is 3170 02:47:42,420 --> 02:47:44,520 just a statement I removed marpa 3171 02:47:44,520 --> 02:47:46,800 assigned to general fund so all that's 3172 02:47:46,800 --> 02:47:49,280 going to be the same discussion 3173 02:47:49,280 --> 02:47:53,540 the next one we did this yep 3174 02:47:53,540 --> 02:47:58,080 so National Grid National Grid hello 3175 02:47:58,080 --> 02:48:00,720 remove the 1.3 million of marpa and 3176 02:48:00,720 --> 02:48:02,939 assigned to general fund what can I 3177 02:48:02,939 --> 02:48:04,800 interrupt us there because I do think 3178 02:48:04,800 --> 02:48:09,240 we're kind of committed to that it's a contractual thing it just was 3179 02:48:09,240 --> 02:48:11,640 three split into three years or 3180 02:48:11,640 --> 02:48:12,720 something I can't remember how many 3181 02:48:12,720 --> 02:48:19,849 years yep so we have it yeah it's not stuff 3182 02:48:19,859 --> 02:48:21,359 um 3183 02:48:21,359 --> 02:48:26,930 yeah 3184 02:48:26,940 --> 02:48:53,090 [Music] 3185 02:48:53,100 --> 02:48:55,030 I 3186 02:48:55,030 --> 02:48:59,929 [Music] 3187 02:48:59,939 --> 02:49:01,859 think so you're suggesting taking it out 3188 02:49:01,859 --> 02:49:03,899 of the the question I was suggesting is 3189 02:49:03,899 --> 02:49:05,280 that remove it not take it from our 3190 02:49:05,280 --> 02:49:07,200 problem take it from General fun because 3191 02:49:07,200 --> 02:49:10,319 we're looking at not utilizing our phone 3192 02:49:10,319 --> 02:49:13,380 but it was a general fund 3193 02:49:13,380 --> 02:49:15,800 because we need to address 3194 02:49:15,800 --> 02:49:18,660 comes back with his um detailed report 3195 02:49:18,660 --> 02:49:20,760 to us as to what is available what is 3196 02:49:20,760 --> 02:49:28,730 needed okay 3197 02:49:28,740 --> 02:49:40,440 foreign 3198 02:49:40,450 --> 02:49:45,050 [Music] 3199 02:49:45,060 --> 02:49:48,600 so giving the veterans 4 500 3200 02:49:48,600 --> 02:49:51,230 . 3201 02:49:51,240 --> 02:49:55,080 so obviously go ahead please 3202 02:49:55,080 --> 02:49:58,020 so whenever I see veterans organizations 3203 02:49:58,020 --> 02:50:00,060 or attempts to kind of fund those 3204 02:50:00,060 --> 02:50:03,180 agencies it definitely takes a certain 3205 02:50:03,180 --> 02:50:06,359 appreciation for me looking at how it 3206 02:50:06,359 --> 02:50:08,819 was funded over the past three years and 3207 02:50:08,819 --> 02:50:10,800 trying to take into account inflation I 3208 02:50:10,800 --> 02:50:12,240 think if we're truly trying to support 3209 02:50:12,240 --> 02:50:13,979 these initiatives regardless of what 3210 02:50:13,979 --> 02:50:15,120 they're coming forward or not I think 3211 02:50:15,120 --> 02:50:17,580 it's evaluating whether those stagnant 3212 02:50:17,580 --> 02:50:19,439 contributions still reflect the same 3213 02:50:19,439 --> 02:50:22,800 value to those agencies so I think 3214 02:50:22,800 --> 02:50:24,780 increasing it and then keeping this at 3215 02:50:24,780 --> 02:50:26,580 the standard I think sends a direct 3216 02:50:26,580 --> 02:50:28,380 message to them that we appreciate what 3217 02:50:28,380 --> 02:50:30,479 you've done for our country and here is 3218 02:50:30,479 --> 02:50:33,060 a small token to help you support your 3219 02:50:33,060 --> 02:50:35,160 initiatives which we all know are 3220 02:50:35,160 --> 02:50:37,500 suffering stagnancy with getting 3221 02:50:37,500 --> 02:50:40,560 attendance so not saying that they 3222 02:50:40,560 --> 02:50:42,600 aren't doing their parts but a lot of 3223 02:50:42,600 --> 02:50:44,399 those veteran calls rely heavily on 3224 02:50:44,399 --> 02:50:46,200 these types of contributions so I think 3225 02:50:46,200 --> 02:50:48,479 this is a small effort to contain and 3226 02:50:48,479 --> 02:50:51,120 support our service members and I think 3227 02:50:51,120 --> 02:50:53,160 it's a stance that the city can take 3228 02:50:53,160 --> 02:50:55,620 long term 3229 02:50:55,620 --> 02:50:59,720 they just chip Wilson did Centennial no 3230 02:50:59,720 --> 02:51:02,939 uh by one of the last things he did the 3231 02:51:02,939 --> 02:51:05,520 University passed away in the last few 3232 02:51:05,520 --> 02:51:08,220 days but he'd indicated that Thanking us 3233 02:51:08,220 --> 02:51:10,380 for the money that it was adequate and 3234 02:51:10,380 --> 02:51:13,859 he said that he would notify us if any 3235 02:51:13,859 --> 02:51:16,319 of the 3236 02:51:16,319 --> 02:51:19,380 groups shift that gives you some that 3237 02:51:19,380 --> 02:51:24,740 have gone out of I think uh businesses 3238 02:51:24,740 --> 02:51:27,180 pointed out that they had a hard time in 3239 02:51:27,180 --> 02:51:29,340 terms of Recruitment and 3240 02:51:29,340 --> 02:51:34,550 giving people the staff and 3241 02:51:34,560 --> 02:51:37,140 so were we paying full rental for these 3242 02:51:37,140 --> 02:51:40,910 yeah yeah this is a 3243 02:51:40,920 --> 02:51:42,800 gift once again 3244 02:51:42,800 --> 02:51:47,760 and they is part of that of when we 3245 02:51:47,760 --> 02:51:50,819 need flag ceremonies and Council 3246 02:51:50,819 --> 02:51:52,859 meetings or other things they will come 3247 02:51:52,859 --> 02:51:56,279 out and so it offsets some of their 3248 02:51:56,279 --> 02:51:59,040 cost associated with the community 3249 02:51:59,040 --> 02:52:01,630 activities 3250 02:52:01,630 --> 02:52:04,319 [Music] 3251 02:52:04,319 --> 02:52:08,430 foreign 3252 02:52:08,440 --> 02:52:32,660 [Music] 3253 02:52:32,660 --> 02:52:36,120 recommendation is that we rename this 3254 02:52:36,120 --> 02:52:38,580 line so you can find in city of 3255 02:52:38,580 --> 02:52:40,319 Schenectady slash Schenectady school 3256 02:52:40,319 --> 02:52:44,760 district 150 000 and remove the Euro I 3257 02:52:44,760 --> 02:52:46,140 think we started something this year 3258 02:52:46,140 --> 02:52:48,180 with the Schenectady school district and 3259 02:52:48,180 --> 02:52:50,220 we heard a good story about it and I 3260 02:52:50,220 --> 02:52:51,720 think um 3261 02:52:51,720 --> 02:52:53,819 just so that we put you into the fund 3262 02:52:53,819 --> 02:52:57,180 and provide service for these youths in 3263 02:52:57,180 --> 02:52:58,800 our school district 3264 02:52:58,800 --> 02:53:01,260 so so putting this into the operating 3265 02:53:01,260 --> 02:53:03,779 budget but taking out the 43 yes correct 3266 02:53:03,779 --> 02:53:09,240 so it's really only adding one 107 000. 3267 02:53:09,240 --> 02:53:14,290 um 3268 02:53:14,300 --> 02:53:15,960 all right 3269 02:53:15,960 --> 02:53:22,809 but um 3270 02:53:22,819 --> 02:53:25,439 yes I still be our school district and 3271 02:53:25,439 --> 02:53:29,690 Mr Farley has been working now 3272 02:53:29,700 --> 02:53:31,740 just changing the name changing the 3273 02:53:31,740 --> 02:53:39,429 description 3274 02:53:39,439 --> 02:53:42,540 yeah so this one here is something that 3275 02:53:42,540 --> 02:53:44,880 we all talked about over the years to 3276 02:53:44,880 --> 02:53:46,920 finally provide money we don't have 3277 02:53:46,920 --> 02:53:50,100 money and now we have money 3278 02:53:50,100 --> 02:53:52,380 we're ready 3279 02:53:52,380 --> 02:53:56,340 damn I wish everyone was easy like this 3280 02:53:56,340 --> 02:53:59,939 the next one um remove 3281 02:53:59,939 --> 02:54:02,520 um assigned to general fund police 3282 02:54:02,520 --> 02:54:04,319 officer removed from Marco last night 3283 02:54:04,319 --> 02:54:06,600 the general fund 3284 02:54:06,600 --> 02:54:10,690 same thing with firefighters 3285 02:54:10,700 --> 02:54:14,040 but we have the I mean again I'm gonna 3286 02:54:14,040 --> 02:54:15,600 probably argue on this because I know 3287 02:54:15,600 --> 02:54:17,520 we're going to wait till next week but 3288 02:54:17,520 --> 02:54:19,920 we've got the arbor money I mean I I 3289 02:54:19,920 --> 02:54:22,260 really feel like we need to be these are 3290 02:54:22,260 --> 02:54:23,760 essential 3291 02:54:23,760 --> 02:54:25,319 yeah things 3292 02:54:25,319 --> 02:54:27,840 but I I will wait to argue with you next 3293 02:54:27,840 --> 02:54:29,819 week yeah since that's all we're doing 3294 02:54:29,819 --> 02:54:31,560 is because we were holding off we were 3295 02:54:31,560 --> 02:54:33,540 holding off when we I mean spend and 3296 02:54:33,540 --> 02:54:34,979 still waiting in the mirror or should we 3297 02:54:34,979 --> 02:54:36,600 just pull out spend and then realize 3298 02:54:36,600 --> 02:54:38,640 that Mia doesn't have any money left 3299 02:54:38,640 --> 02:54:40,680 behind so 3300 02:54:40,680 --> 02:54:42,720 well I think he's telling us that this 3301 02:54:42,720 --> 02:54:44,700 is how he would like to use the arpa 3302 02:54:44,700 --> 02:54:46,439 funds but 3303 02:54:46,439 --> 02:54:52,030 not to put words anymore 3304 02:54:52,040 --> 02:54:54,600 so you know again I mean we could have 3305 02:54:54,600 --> 02:54:56,700 the argument next week whatever but the 3306 02:54:56,700 --> 02:55:04,010 next one is uh the property tax 3307 02:55:04,020 --> 02:55:04,740 um 3308 02:55:04,740 --> 02:55:06,840 property tax production it should be 3309 02:55:06,840 --> 02:55:08,160 seen today 3310 02:55:08,160 --> 02:55:09,540 um the number of the numbers should be 3311 02:55:09,540 --> 02:55:12,420 316 290. 3312 02:55:12,420 --> 02:55:20,469 50 3313 02:55:20,479 --> 02:55:26,040 it was 316 000. even no I told you on a 3314 02:55:26,040 --> 02:55:26,840 phone 3315 02:55:26,840 --> 02:55:30,660 316.6290 316 290 one percent yeah and 3316 02:55:30,660 --> 02:55:32,220 this was driven latest I've gonna thank 3317 02:55:32,220 --> 02:55:34,200 you for giving me the number because 3318 02:55:34,200 --> 02:55:37,500 um we saw the companies coming out to 3319 02:55:37,500 --> 02:55:41,300 their tax rebate of 250 for households 3320 02:55:41,300 --> 02:55:50,809 that are yes star exemption I mean the ladies yes 3321 02:55:50,819 --> 02:55:54,180 uses and restricted uses of Arco funds 3322 02:55:54,180 --> 02:55:58,500 are you cannot reduce taxes right well I 3323 02:55:58,500 --> 02:56:00,120 don't think you're using our performance 3324 02:56:00,120 --> 02:56:01,920 original Stacks as we can use general 3325 02:56:01,920 --> 02:56:06,140 fund if we decide to build his passwords 3326 02:56:06,140 --> 02:56:08,279 we're arguing about this may have to 3327 02:56:08,279 --> 02:56:10,080 explain yeah you're reducing the 3328 02:56:10,080 --> 02:56:12,840 property taxes and we're using our foot 3329 02:56:12,840 --> 02:56:15,899 funds excuse for the budget one way or 3330 02:56:15,899 --> 02:56:19,140 the other so also I just want to say and 3331 02:56:19,140 --> 02:56:21,840 I could be wrong but it seems to me that 3332 02:56:21,840 --> 02:56:25,319 with the water sewer trash and this it 3333 02:56:25,319 --> 02:56:27,800 actually I think is 2 3334 02:56:27,800 --> 02:56:32,460 609 629 but I would defer to our 3335 02:56:32,460 --> 02:56:35,040 economists close enough but if you put 3336 02:56:35,040 --> 02:56:37,319 this in if you put this in and we're 3337 02:56:37,319 --> 02:56:40,380 right around two we're over 2.9 Million 3338 02:56:40,380 --> 02:56:42,859 That's not including taking 3339 02:56:42,859 --> 02:56:47,640 them yeah oh no I told a lot yeah so if 3340 02:56:47,640 --> 02:56:51,420 we do this we have to come up with 2.9 1 3341 02:56:51,420 --> 02:56:54,779 million plus 35 something million 3342 02:56:54,779 --> 02:56:56,479 exactly 3343 02:56:56,479 --> 02:56:58,439 Five Point 3344 02:56:58,439 --> 02:57:00,380 and see 3345 02:57:00,380 --> 02:57:05,000 excuse me 3.82 345 and then 3346 02:57:05,000 --> 02:57:08,160 yeah so you're looking at 3347 02:57:08,160 --> 02:57:15,670 almost seven million dollars 3348 02:57:15,680 --> 02:57:17,880 what happened to that Surplus we were 3349 02:57:17,880 --> 02:57:19,439 talking about that's where you're gonna 3350 02:57:19,439 --> 02:57:20,580 have to you're gonna have to use it up 3351 02:57:20,580 --> 02:57:27,969 but that's yeah 3352 02:57:27,979 --> 02:57:30,300 I said that I said that number before 3353 02:57:30,300 --> 02:57:32,640 earlier Anthony was so happy that we had 3354 02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:34,740 3.1 million 3.2 million dollars in 3355 02:57:34,740 --> 02:57:36,960 Surplus where was that actually you need 3356 02:57:36,960 --> 02:57:38,700 it here but it still would be there 3357 02:57:38,700 --> 02:57:39,660 we're going to be used we're going to 3358 02:57:39,660 --> 02:57:41,540 use it no matter what 3359 02:57:41,540 --> 02:57:48,070 you're following you no okay okay 3360 02:57:48,080 --> 02:57:50,700 you should hold on to the arpa funds for 3361 02:57:50,700 --> 02:57:53,100 at least another year and get your 3362 02:57:53,100 --> 02:57:55,520 revenues uh back up 3363 02:57:55,520 --> 02:57:59,279 okay so this item here the skateboard 3364 02:57:59,279 --> 02:58:01,140 and they were discussion uh in the 3365 02:58:01,140 --> 02:58:02,939 mayor's office and some of the members 3366 02:58:02,939 --> 02:58:05,100 in the council and 1.2 million dollar 3367 02:58:05,100 --> 02:58:07,200 the Mayors originally asked for a 3368 02:58:07,200 --> 02:58:08,700 million we were concerned about 3369 02:58:08,700 --> 02:58:10,740 liability and now this 3370 02:58:10,740 --> 02:58:12,240 let's come back to the table for 3371 02:58:12,240 --> 02:58:14,220 discussion 3372 02:58:14,220 --> 02:58:17,469 um 3373 02:58:17,479 --> 02:58:21,120 for 1.25 is because 3374 02:58:21,120 --> 02:58:25,620 um Mr Warren did contact one company 3375 02:58:25,620 --> 02:58:28,620 um about uh the possibility of doing 3376 02:58:28,620 --> 02:58:31,670 this at under the 890 overpower 3377 02:58:31,670 --> 02:58:35,050 [Music] 3378 02:58:35,060 --> 02:58:37,200 and uh 3379 02:58:37,200 --> 02:58:40,560 when Mr Wallen was explaining it he also 3380 02:58:40,560 --> 02:58:44,460 added then 250 000 for lighting and um 3381 02:58:44,460 --> 02:58:45,960 either streets or sidewalks I can't 3382 02:58:45,960 --> 02:58:46,880 remember 3383 02:58:46,880 --> 02:58:49,979 however there are other options as well 3384 02:58:49,979 --> 02:58:52,100 so I just went with the larger figure 3385 02:58:52,100 --> 02:58:54,300 there but 3386 02:58:54,300 --> 02:58:57,899 um this is way early beginning stages of 3387 02:58:57,899 --> 02:59:00,060 any kind of planning 3388 02:59:00,060 --> 02:59:02,520 um there's other Alternatives uh and 3389 02:59:02,520 --> 02:59:04,380 that question but I would like to see 3390 02:59:04,380 --> 02:59:06,560 escape from the park I guess 3391 02:59:06,560 --> 02:59:09,060 because we allocated to the money there 3392 02:59:09,060 --> 02:59:12,600 towards the side we did originally to 3393 02:59:12,600 --> 02:59:14,220 re-renovate 3394 02:59:14,220 --> 02:59:16,260 the existing tennis courts back into 3395 02:59:16,260 --> 02:59:17,939 tennis courts but there might be some 3396 02:59:17,939 --> 02:59:20,880 play there and so it's sort of 3397 02:59:20,880 --> 02:59:22,800 a discussion that still needs to a 3398 02:59:22,800 --> 02:59:24,720 planning discussion that still needs to 3399 02:59:24,720 --> 02:59:27,899 be finalized but it could be as easy as 3400 02:59:27,899 --> 02:59:30,720 renovating the Riverside Park into the 3401 02:59:30,720 --> 02:59:33,779 skateboard park which would be I believe 3402 02:59:33,779 --> 02:59:36,720 a lot less expensive but it doesn't give 3403 02:59:36,720 --> 02:59:39,420 them year-round access nor does it give 3404 02:59:39,420 --> 02:59:43,319 the city sort of a kind of 3405 02:59:43,319 --> 02:59:46,560 showcase skateboard park under 890. so 3406 02:59:46,560 --> 02:59:48,600 anyway I just wanted to make sure that 3407 02:59:48,600 --> 02:59:50,700 at least it was included with the parts 3408 02:59:50,700 --> 02:59:52,500 of discussion because I wasn't here the 3409 02:59:52,500 --> 02:59:54,540 night that you all talked about all the 3410 02:59:54,540 --> 02:59:56,640 other parts because the night that I had 3411 02:59:56,640 --> 02:59:58,859 my surgery but you also mentioned that 3412 02:59:58,859 --> 03:00:00,600 there's opportunities for Grants because 3413 03:00:00,600 --> 03:00:01,819 this is 3414 03:00:01,819 --> 03:00:04,740 so in this full calls me enough well 3415 03:00:04,740 --> 03:00:06,960 although it may even go higher may not 3416 03:00:06,960 --> 03:00:08,399 be something that necessarily needs to 3417 03:00:08,399 --> 03:00:11,760 come right right under the city budget 3418 03:00:11,760 --> 03:00:13,680 and that's what I was talking about if 3419 03:00:13,680 --> 03:00:16,260 you talk about um 3420 03:00:16,260 --> 03:00:19,020 his money that can be used 3421 03:00:19,020 --> 03:00:21,500 um for you know leading up and 3422 03:00:21,500 --> 03:00:26,160 access and parking to the park right 3423 03:00:26,160 --> 03:00:29,960 yep I mean this was first proposed in 3424 03:00:29,960 --> 03:00:33,960 2019 anyway so there's grants and stuff 3425 03:00:33,960 --> 03:00:36,180 that are available and hopefully we get 3426 03:00:36,180 --> 03:00:37,640 a good 3427 03:00:37,640 --> 03:00:39,960 bro seriously I mean some of the other 3428 03:00:39,960 --> 03:00:42,300 municipalities I think that that was 3429 03:00:42,300 --> 03:00:43,680 part of our discussion that some of the 3430 03:00:43,680 --> 03:00:45,359 other even local municipalities have 3431 03:00:45,359 --> 03:00:47,220 kind of secured Grant funds from these 3432 03:00:47,220 --> 03:00:48,300 foundations 3433 03:00:48,300 --> 03:00:51,420 that support skateboard park so 3434 03:00:51,420 --> 03:00:53,279 um anyway do you think do you think we 3435 03:00:53,279 --> 03:00:55,140 could get some final numbers 3436 03:00:55,140 --> 03:00:58,200 before we touch on the uh I don't final 3437 03:00:58,200 --> 03:01:00,540 education 3438 03:01:00,540 --> 03:01:02,960 how is your meeting going on 3439 03:01:02,960 --> 03:01:07,399 I don't know you're not gonna hear them 3440 03:01:07,399 --> 03:01:11,279 but before we we know that before we do 3441 03:01:11,279 --> 03:01:16,070 for our final our location 3442 03:01:16,080 --> 03:01:19,380 yes you have to make a decision whether 3443 03:01:19,380 --> 03:01:20,880 we 3444 03:01:20,880 --> 03:01:25,140 look at the other site over at 890 or do 3445 03:01:25,140 --> 03:01:27,479 modifications for some of the plans in 3446 03:01:27,479 --> 03:01:28,880 Front Street Park 3447 03:01:28,880 --> 03:01:31,680 yeah one reason why I put that I know 3448 03:01:31,680 --> 03:01:33,899 what's on the right side here because we 3449 03:01:33,899 --> 03:01:35,580 still have some money available on the 3450 03:01:35,580 --> 03:01:37,319 offer that we can address these things 3451 03:01:37,319 --> 03:01:39,120 because we are talking about Simon part 3452 03:01:39,120 --> 03:01:41,939 about 500 000 we're talking we talked 3453 03:01:41,939 --> 03:01:43,859 originally when you were off that day 3454 03:01:43,859 --> 03:01:47,100 about Grove Park 500 000 so the question 3455 03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:49,439 ever submitted 100 000 for steiniest 3456 03:01:49,439 --> 03:01:51,600 Grove Park a hundred thousand I think 3457 03:01:51,600 --> 03:01:53,100 these Parks need more money than that 3458 03:01:53,100 --> 03:01:56,279 but you know we like 10 years old out to 3459 03:01:56,279 --> 03:02:02,110 all of us are supportive of our parts 3460 03:02:02,120 --> 03:02:04,620 right and just circle back to the 3461 03:02:04,620 --> 03:02:06,840 skateboard um part because I did have a 3462 03:02:06,840 --> 03:02:08,460 discussion with the young man that came 3463 03:02:08,460 --> 03:02:10,500 to the park so you know we're talking 3464 03:02:10,500 --> 03:02:11,840 about either or 3465 03:02:11,840 --> 03:02:14,220 they're kind of talking about can we do 3466 03:02:14,220 --> 03:02:17,700 both voice can we you know can we 3467 03:02:17,700 --> 03:02:19,800 um so just for that just so you know 3468 03:02:19,800 --> 03:02:22,620 that that's that kind of request and 3469 03:02:22,620 --> 03:02:34,750 thought process is out there yep 3470 03:02:34,760 --> 03:02:43,929 the Green Space 3471 03:02:43,939 --> 03:02:45,899 the really good things that are 3472 03:02:45,899 --> 03:02:47,640 happening in the city and how we want a 3473 03:02:47,640 --> 03:02:50,819 skate park that is on part of that right 3474 03:02:50,819 --> 03:02:53,520 we want to make sure that we have a a 3475 03:02:53,520 --> 03:02:55,380 skate park that really represents you 3476 03:02:55,380 --> 03:02:58,260 know where we are as a city and there's 3477 03:02:58,260 --> 03:03:01,380 you know and then move in uh looking to 3478 03:03:01,380 --> 03:03:02,760 this a little further but 3479 03:03:02,760 --> 03:03:05,880 there's like other municipalities that 3480 03:03:05,880 --> 03:03:07,920 have skate parts that are some primary 3481 03:03:07,920 --> 03:03:10,920 uses the skate park through design right 3482 03:03:10,920 --> 03:03:13,140 they they function as other things right 3483 03:03:13,140 --> 03:03:15,600 to support community activities 3484 03:03:15,600 --> 03:03:16,920 um so I think that we want to make sure 3485 03:03:16,920 --> 03:03:19,200 that we're leveraging that and 3486 03:03:19,200 --> 03:03:23,160 as well my concern is the current 3487 03:03:23,160 --> 03:03:26,279 location is they 3488 03:03:26,279 --> 03:03:34,080 people 3489 03:03:34,090 --> 03:03:36,720 [Music] 3490 03:03:36,720 --> 03:03:39,779 uh I love all the people in Stockade 3491 03:03:39,779 --> 03:03:41,460 they're all good and just you know in 3492 03:03:41,460 --> 03:03:43,680 their support of this I know when you 3493 03:03:43,680 --> 03:03:46,140 create parking issues in The Stockade we 3494 03:03:46,140 --> 03:03:49,800 really get complaints and so if we do an 3495 03:03:49,800 --> 03:03:51,720 upgrade there where it's a nicer 3496 03:03:51,720 --> 03:03:54,060 facility it's fancier 3497 03:03:54,060 --> 03:03:56,220 it's not going to reduce the utilization 3498 03:03:56,220 --> 03:03:57,779 more people are going to want to use it 3499 03:03:57,779 --> 03:03:59,700 that's what 3500 03:03:59,700 --> 03:04:02,460 um we want to spend the money and if 3501 03:04:02,460 --> 03:04:04,080 we're going to have parking issues and 3502 03:04:04,080 --> 03:04:05,060 other 3503 03:04:05,060 --> 03:04:08,160 impacts you don't want to create the 3504 03:04:08,160 --> 03:04:09,600 negative 3505 03:04:09,600 --> 03:04:13,260 so the standard depends on 8th streets 3506 03:04:13,260 --> 03:04:15,960 is I don't complaint with this problems 3507 03:04:15,960 --> 03:04:18,359 I can't go down the street it's terrible 3508 03:04:18,359 --> 03:04:20,819 biology England High Street hasn't been 3509 03:04:20,819 --> 03:04:23,460 paid in the last hundred years 3510 03:04:23,460 --> 03:04:25,140 we pay with 3511 03:04:25,140 --> 03:04:27,060 and then immediately the calls are 3512 03:04:27,060 --> 03:04:28,800 coming in you've got to do something 3513 03:04:28,800 --> 03:04:30,840 about speeding these cars are going too 3514 03:04:30,840 --> 03:04:34,750 fast 3515 03:04:34,760 --> 03:04:37,859 I mean I think but I think and we kind 3516 03:04:37,859 --> 03:04:39,479 of touched based on this and certainly 3517 03:04:39,479 --> 03:04:40,979 we talked about it at the meeting with 3518 03:04:40,979 --> 03:04:43,260 the skateboard people 3519 03:04:43,260 --> 03:04:46,319 um an initial step is just like we did 3520 03:04:46,319 --> 03:04:49,200 with the pool project at Central Park is 3521 03:04:49,200 --> 03:04:52,260 that we could allocate some money for a 3522 03:04:52,260 --> 03:04:55,800 design which would then put this onto 3523 03:04:55,800 --> 03:04:58,740 the professionals to kind of come back 3524 03:04:58,740 --> 03:05:00,479 to us and say Here's what they think he 3525 03:05:00,479 --> 03:05:03,000 said because even though 3526 03:05:03,000 --> 03:05:04,859 the design is probably going to be 3527 03:05:04,859 --> 03:05:10,090 driven by the site right yeah 3528 03:05:10,100 --> 03:05:14,510 890 has 3529 03:05:14,520 --> 03:05:22,310 computers 3530 03:05:22,320 --> 03:05:25,730 [Music] 3531 03:05:25,740 --> 03:05:29,340 and you know today you get out of the 3532 03:05:29,340 --> 03:05:31,260 construction so you go to the Bridge 3533 03:05:31,260 --> 03:05:34,309 Project 3534 03:05:34,319 --> 03:05:36,779 it's underutilized space and so is we're 3535 03:05:36,779 --> 03:05:38,580 expanding the downtown creating more 3536 03:05:38,580 --> 03:05:40,740 Great Space improving the walkability 3537 03:05:40,740 --> 03:05:43,740 likability of the community 3538 03:05:43,740 --> 03:05:46,080 it's just another resource there that we 3539 03:05:46,080 --> 03:05:47,160 could 3540 03:05:47,160 --> 03:05:49,399 play on and create 3541 03:05:49,399 --> 03:05:52,200 opportunities for me 3542 03:05:52,200 --> 03:05:54,660 yeah and can you do it in a way where it 3543 03:05:54,660 --> 03:05:57,720 is more of a regional draw than just 3544 03:05:57,720 --> 03:06:00,660 a little closer right a little art or 3545 03:06:00,660 --> 03:06:04,319 bad right and Troy is doing it under um 3546 03:06:04,319 --> 03:06:05,880 you know if you like 3547 03:06:05,880 --> 03:06:08,779 I say if I was going down 26th Street 3548 03:06:08,779 --> 03:06:12,300 you know from like RPI let's say they're 3549 03:06:12,300 --> 03:06:14,340 doing it like underneath that all really 3550 03:06:14,340 --> 03:06:17,640 awfully messy area that is at the end of 3551 03:06:17,640 --> 03:06:20,700 their levels you know I think that would 3552 03:06:20,700 --> 03:06:22,200 be their second sweeper 3553 03:06:22,200 --> 03:06:24,720 I'm not sure maybe they have one up I 3554 03:06:24,720 --> 03:06:25,760 can't remember 3555 03:06:25,760 --> 03:06:27,899 comparison for our skate parking sure 3556 03:06:27,899 --> 03:06:30,080 exactly 3557 03:06:30,080 --> 03:06:32,540 covered boats 3558 03:06:32,540 --> 03:06:36,010 positions 3559 03:06:36,020 --> 03:06:39,500 oh okay okay okay okay 3560 03:06:39,500 --> 03:06:41,520 that's right before we see him right 3561 03:06:41,520 --> 03:06:42,779 after that that's right and then you 3562 03:06:42,779 --> 03:06:44,040 know our professional speakers such as 3563 03:06:44,040 --> 03:07:06,070 myself 3564 03:07:06,080 --> 03:07:09,620 hear about that one 3565 03:07:09,620 --> 03:07:14,160 and groat is the cricket right 3566 03:07:14,160 --> 03:07:15,560 yeah 3567 03:07:15,560 --> 03:07:17,580 originally when I asked for this was 3568 03:07:17,580 --> 03:07:20,160 5000 so I'm not sure why the ask is a 3569 03:07:20,160 --> 03:07:22,080 hundred thousand now it's Timeless Park 3570 03:07:22,080 --> 03:07:24,300 the original Last was 500 000 also 3571 03:07:24,300 --> 03:07:27,849 because we don't have that much 3572 03:07:27,859 --> 03:07:30,660 that's why I I mentioned just though we 3573 03:07:30,660 --> 03:07:33,000 should hold off and see uh final round 3574 03:07:33,000 --> 03:07:37,070 number 3575 03:07:37,080 --> 03:07:40,380 I'm okay I just would like to see if we 3576 03:07:40,380 --> 03:07:42,540 can move forward to be deaf yeah that's 3577 03:07:42,540 --> 03:07:43,620 why I would like to see more money 3578 03:07:43,620 --> 03:07:46,740 towards five minutes growth part the 3579 03:07:46,740 --> 03:07:48,479 Belgium they believe eighty thousand 3580 03:07:48,479 --> 03:07:51,530 dollars 3581 03:07:51,540 --> 03:07:53,279 I mean these are things will get my 3582 03:07:53,279 --> 03:07:54,840 support but we need that's you know look 3583 03:07:54,840 --> 03:07:57,240 at the panel from 3584 03:07:57,240 --> 03:08:00,600 what is available after we get the 3585 03:08:00,600 --> 03:08:03,479 report from new McCarty so because we'll 3586 03:08:03,479 --> 03:08:05,700 have to fund all these parts so again no 3587 03:08:05,700 --> 03:08:07,880 argument okay 3588 03:08:07,880 --> 03:08:10,340 so my question is 3589 03:08:10,340 --> 03:08:12,359 that's something we can do like this 3590 03:08:12,359 --> 03:08:14,279 time of year I have no idea that's just 3591 03:08:14,279 --> 03:08:21,310 my question I don't know 3592 03:08:21,320 --> 03:08:35,710 [Music] 3593 03:08:35,720 --> 03:08:37,920 thank you 3594 03:08:37,920 --> 03:08:40,809 okay 3595 03:08:40,819 --> 03:08:44,340 it's page 17 part-time clerk no that's 3596 03:08:44,340 --> 03:08:46,680 oh I'm sorry oh sorry that was a 3597 03:08:46,680 --> 03:08:48,420 question I actually have said to 3598 03:08:48,420 --> 03:08:50,359 remember 3599 03:08:50,359 --> 03:08:51,740 oh okay 3600 03:08:51,740 --> 03:08:57,309 [Music] 3601 03:08:57,319 --> 03:09:00,000 are we paying one person one hundred 3602 03:09:00,000 --> 03:09:02,779 four thousand dollars 3603 03:09:02,779 --> 03:09:17,690 yes yeah 3604 03:09:17,700 --> 03:09:21,600 uh is that what we need assisted so if 3605 03:09:21,600 --> 03:09:22,979 we said that to the other part-time 3606 03:09:22,979 --> 03:09:24,479 position so we would need to it was just 3607 03:09:24,479 --> 03:09:26,340 the commissioner right but they're also 3608 03:09:26,340 --> 03:09:28,020 but the reason no I know I get that but 3609 03:09:28,020 --> 03:09:44,469 I'm just saying we make a decision 3610 03:09:44,479 --> 03:09:50,590 and are you all in yeah 3611 03:09:50,600 --> 03:09:52,859 if that's what everybody yeah well 3612 03:09:52,859 --> 03:09:54,540 because if we start doing that then what 3613 03:09:54,540 --> 03:10:02,269 about the seasonals 3614 03:10:02,279 --> 03:10:12,769 Generations 3615 03:10:12,779 --> 03:10:16,140 all right so um Mr Ferrari you got your 3616 03:10:16,140 --> 03:10:20,750 hands full yeah 3617 03:10:20,760 --> 03:10:22,500 so I'm just gonna say so I'm going to 3618 03:10:22,500 --> 03:10:24,120 probably do a couple budgets and we'll 3619 03:10:24,120 --> 03:10:26,040 probably do one exactly which we said 3620 03:10:26,040 --> 03:10:29,100 tonight I'm going to do one that what I 3621 03:10:29,100 --> 03:10:30,859 think will help you 3622 03:10:30,859 --> 03:10:33,380 and then we got the mayor's budget yes 3623 03:10:33,380 --> 03:10:37,200 so uh if I'm not pushing it 3624 03:10:37,200 --> 03:10:39,120 possible to get us out to us Monday 3625 03:10:39,120 --> 03:10:41,300 evening Monday I plan to come in Sunday 3626 03:10:41,300 --> 03:10:50,690 oh wow 3627 03:10:50,700 --> 03:10:52,760 [Music] 3628 03:10:52,760 --> 03:10:56,520 if there's any changes within that any 3629 03:10:56,520 --> 03:10:58,380 questions please submit it so that we 3630 03:10:58,380 --> 03:11:00,540 will become Wednesday to move forward 3631 03:11:00,540 --> 03:11:02,880 some of your questions 3632 03:11:02,880 --> 03:11:05,700 might be answered prior to you being 3633 03:11:05,700 --> 03:11:07,580 here on Wednesday 3634 03:11:07,580 --> 03:11:10,800 again question submit Anthony will get 3635 03:11:10,800 --> 03:11:13,080 this answer to us and the numbers we 3636 03:11:13,080 --> 03:11:14,640 have questions on the numbers submit 3637 03:11:14,640 --> 03:11:21,890 questions 3638 03:11:21,900 --> 03:11:29,640 [Music] 3639 03:11:29,640 --> 03:12:04,389 um 3640 03:12:04,399 --> 03:12:07,100 thank you 3641 03:12:07,100 --> 03:12:09,060 Friday they probably don't close their 3642 03:12:09,060 --> 03:12:29,090 homes 3643 03:12:29,100 --> 03:13:06,670 all right 3644 03:13:06,680 --> 03:14:45,650 thank you 3645 03:14:45,660 --> 03:15:15,359 foreign