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I'd like to call to order this special

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student council meeting for Sunday

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October 30th at 20 um 2022.

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um just before we uh have the there's

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one item on the agenda and uh so this

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item um was discussed in committee on

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Wednesday October 26th and it passed on

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the same night and special counsel

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council meeting

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um after three and a half hours of

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deliberation and waiting

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um and discussion for the actual

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ordinance to reflect what was agreed to

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in the operating budget unfortunately

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there were some errors in the text of

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the ordinance and that's the only place

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there's no change in the actual numbers

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and what we agreed on and the budget if

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any of that it's only in the text of the

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ordinance and didn't probably reflect

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the budget as was passed by the council

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So today we're here for to do an

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amendment that only to correct the

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language you all have that in front of

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um so operating budget has passed and

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the language of the ordinance are in

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agreement with each other um and this is

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indicated in an email that was sent by

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our Corporation Council uh Mr Colden so

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at this time if the clerk would please

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read

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item number one for final consideration

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an organs amending ordinance number

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22-10 which approved the proposed

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operating budget for 2023 and authorized

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the Appropriations therein in numeric

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enumerated

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this was discussing committee no Acosta

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and Mr fell maybe would like to have a

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so before the roll call is there any

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discussions to be done between two State

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your positions on anything what has gone

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on and then we should have the actual

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votes any discussion

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sure sure I just I just want to say that

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last year just last year I campaigned a

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campaigned on improving the quality of

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life issues here in the city and I

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believe that the cuts to the police

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department will directly impact any

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efforts made at that time especially if

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our residents don't feel safe and secure

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in their neighborhoods

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and again I just want to I want to state

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that we must make fiscally responsible

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decisions so we can continue

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any effort

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to move our city into the future

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and I'm you know I'm not voting yet

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right no but no no you're not the

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discussion is really about the amendment

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could we wear

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I voted as I did the other evening in a

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good faith effort to acknowledge the

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rigorous discussions that the council

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had during its budget deliberations

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however as I stated then I was unhappy

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with several items in the budget

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specifically the substantial funding

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cuts to the Schenectady Police

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I'm worried that the cuts were that were

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made to over time in particular will

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negatively affect public safety

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especially during a time when we are

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battling increased crime rates

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since the vote the other evening I was

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very unhappy to hear council president

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Porterfield tell Channel 6 that police

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don't stop crime they simply handle it

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after it's done I disagree completely

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with that statement and I understand how

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civilian positions like the information

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processing specialist that was also left

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unfunded can help prevent crime before

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it happens by providing crucial data for

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investigations and I hope this isn't the

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beginning of a trend by the council's

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majority to defund the police

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we are really fortunate in Schenectady

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to have a police department that is

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considered one of the best in the state

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smart and compassionate leader Like

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Chief Clifford and men and women in the

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department who care so much about the

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safety of residents in all of our

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neighborhoods

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but we're not voting right now

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Ms Williams I find it extremely alarming

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some of the comments that are made here

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tonight out of which was just made by

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Miss Patrick regarding defund the police

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just for clarification by the community

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and all those listening and watching the

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I.T position is still going to be

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staffed be specifically chose a majority

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that this position would not be staffed

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by the police department however we've

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taken into considerations to make sure

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that their it needs are continuing to be

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met in addition to the overtime budget

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if you would happen to reference their a

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lot of budget item for last year we did

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so we have made correctly can actually

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speak just for myself I think taking

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into consideration some of the cost

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effective savings that are coming

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looking at the number of police officers

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that are being hired the slight increase

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in the overtime budget I am confident

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that the police will be able to make due

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and also leading off of the Investments

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that the police department are making

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into the community it is not far for us

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to think that by the time that our axon

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program comes into play

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we will allow ourselves to be able to

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recognize some savings specifically in

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the overtime budget

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but for myself I'm confident that the

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entire budget items that were spoken of

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are something that the community can get

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behind and I look forward to seeing

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those improvements

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so I guess I just I told them like this

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is fun yeah so I just you know want to

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adjust the fact because you know sign up

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for some of the comments that were made

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here today so far as well you know I

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think that it's a very uh slippery slope

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and I think that you know even using um

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statements like defund the police on can

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be disingenuous and misleading

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um the reduction was to the police

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overtime budget

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not just the overtime budget

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the chief himself was here not too long

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ago talking about

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positions being added

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should reduce overtime we have

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adequately funded

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um them to

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fill uh new positions I believe it's 10

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officers but you know somewhere around

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there so

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naturally increasing officers

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should decrease over time and I

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think that when you frame things a way

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we have to be really intentional in our

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language because

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it could be a bit of a dog whistle and

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people can respond to things

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if they're not clear in the words that

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so that narrative around you from the

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police is this is the furthest thing

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from the truth and it just doesn't

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represent accurately any of the

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decisions that we've made as a council

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so I just want to be clear about that

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and I think that maybe you might want to

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clarify what you say what you're saying

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unless that's what you need

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procedurally when you end the discussion

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debate you move the previous questions

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happy emotionally removed the previous

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question okay

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um can I answer clarification from you absolutely so

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we're just here to a man language

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correct so it's an ordinance to have

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been what was previously the best right

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correct okay

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right any further discussion

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right if the clerk please call the world

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you have to make a motion for us okay a

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motion to

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uh yeah

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make a motion to oh I can't make

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permission right I'll let you pay the

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motion to uh

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move this to the agenda

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advice too

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oh man yeah no it's a Italian first okay

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there's is there anything

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emotions were in the debate so

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all in favor

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uh okay this is a roll call to

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um amend the ordinance number 2022 which

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approves the proposed operating budget

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since 2023 and they're in authorizing

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Appropriations they're in enumerated

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okay Mr Williams yes

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Mr Farley yes

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of this country so Mr Golden I can't

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vote no then

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yeah I can't tell you how to vote well

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no but I mean this is emotion this is

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long and about no for the for the

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reasons that I stated earlier ended up

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having the opportunity to vote again I'm

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going to vote no

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Mr Winterberry

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thank you

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I'm glad that we were able to pick up

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this uh

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a few of the narrative that was

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incorrect yes I can speak before I do it

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okay

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I'm glad that we're able to pick up some

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of these uh the narrative that was

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incorrectly stated originally

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um excuse me and Mr um called and said

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we had to talk during the debate

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is that correct

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typically that's what would happen

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during a discussion about explaining my

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vote

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I'm making money

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so no I'm just stating the obvious

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reason why here and I want to thank Mr

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Golden for working with us to change the

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documents to whatever was passed less

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mentally

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and we're here to focus on the amended

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version I just want to clarify something

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for me and we'll talk about

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when the police chief was here let's

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stay with us this year talking about

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adding new

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officers and the journals of cost

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savings some of the things I've

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mentioned my police chief was adding new

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officers will help a new technology will

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help reduce over time so I think that's

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one of the consideration was we took I

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took we took into looking at reducing

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all the time but we're not cutting it

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below what was approved last this year

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so there's a there's an increase on that

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amount from this year into next year so

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I'm not sure where we're you know we're

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talking about Narrative of cutting and

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defunding police and things like that we

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just need to be careful what we're doing

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with that said I'm voting yes

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Mrs

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no Mr palomini

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um first I'd like to correct some

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incorrect information that's been going

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around specifically that there are 15

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openings in the police department and

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that will lead to a savings of a million

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and a half dollars in salaries that's

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completely untrue there are 13 openings

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nine of which will be filled on January

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1 and the other field likely by July 1st

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the salary savings for those four

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officers was built into the overtime

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budget request for 1.8 million dollars

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which is 300 to 400 000 less than what's

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typically spent

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even if we're talking about this year

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when asked Commissioners Ferrari stated

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we he's projecting a nearly two million

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dollar loss

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my comments the other night still stand

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this budget's not sustainable and let me

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make it clear to homeowners this budget

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will lead to a substantial tax and fee

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increase sooner rather than later

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making matters worse this budget has cut

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Police Services more than two hundred

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fifty thousand fifty six thousand in

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overtime requests and taking an officer

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off the street by not funding a I.T

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position in the police department yes

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that I.T position is funded in I.T as a

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separate piece of employment but that

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does not help the police department the

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data tells us that the crime is up 30

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percent violent crime is up 13 and we've

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had the most homicides in the city this

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year than we've had in the last seven

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crime is out of control every

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neighborhood's getting hit

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who suffer the most from these Cuts

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however history and research tells us

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the most marginalized or the one's most

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impacted these are the same people our

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colleagues tell us are most concerned

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with but I guess that's just lip circs

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other than throwing ARCA money around

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money that could have been spent

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significantly to help the budget even

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further and ensure additional costs

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going forward on water sewer and capital

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projects could be reduced or eliminated

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additionally we've been told that the

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money for outside legal services for the

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cprb is requested this is not true

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talking to the leadership of the CB cprb

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we find that it was discussed by the

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board but was not approved by the board

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so our colleagues who said they didn't

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want to fund the police even ran

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campaign ads saying the team won't

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defund the police despite comments made

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publicly that are contrary to that

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statement and called many of us on the

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Council of others names because we

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correctly stated what they wanted to do

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which is to fund the police have not

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done exactly that to fund the police

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I'm being intentional here in my

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comments once again they have proven to

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be untruthful

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adding to that we saw just the other day

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a complete lack of understanding of what

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the police do on the council chair

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stated the police don't prevent crime

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seriously

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we have heard terms thrown around like

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this was a compromised budget let's be

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clear there was no compromise the only

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reason the budget was changed from the

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proposed budget that our colleagues put

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forward was the numbers just didn't work

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there's no way they could have worked

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and this is what you get when activists

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are put in positions that meet people to

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govern I vote no

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it's important oh yes

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passes four to three

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insane emotions

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all in favor

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foreign

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thank you

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foreign

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thank you

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leave her alone

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oh yeah

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foreign