Land Use & Natural Resources Committee - 11/3/22

2022-11-03

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[0:00] Thursday November 3rd
[0:03] I want to thank everyone for joining us
[0:05] for the November 3rd land use the
[0:07] natural resources committee uh well
[0:09] everybody please rise and join me in the
[0:11] Pledge of Allegiance
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[0:39] Collins or you know the big sound big
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[0:44] Pledge of Allegiance
[0:46] okay Robert any housekeeping items yeah
[0:48] a few housekeeping items before we start
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[1:23] all right directors Michael your name
[1:24] please indicate your presence uh
[1:26] director
[1:28] Frost
[1:29] absent guyaldo here
[1:32] Gore here
[1:34] Paris
[1:36] absent Kennedy
[1:40] absent new
[1:42] here
[1:43] West here by Sir Baines president
[1:48] five-star card credits here
[1:50] and chair sargosa here we have a quorum
[1:53] thank you
[1:55] and do we have any public Communications
[1:59] there are no public comments at this
[2:00] time all right then we'll go ahead and
[2:04] move on to the consent calendar
[2:06] any questions on the consent calendar
[2:12] seeing none uh do we have any public
[2:14] comments on the consent calendar there
[2:16] is no public comment all right thank you
[2:18] uh do we have a motion on consent new
[2:22] moves for approval in West seconds all
[2:26] right we have a first and a second we've
[2:28] seen no further comments uh roll call
[2:30] please all right uh director bullhan on
[2:33] the eye
[2:34] a frost
[2:36] absent guyaldo I
[2:39] Gore
[2:40] aye
[2:41] Harris
[2:42] absent Kennedy
[2:45] absent new
[2:47] aye
[2:48] West
[2:49] hi Baines
[2:52] aye Vice chair Clarks yes and chair
[2:54] Saragosa
[2:56] aye motion carries all right thank you
[2:59] okay uh moving along uh we're gonna go
[3:01] to our one action item that's item
[3:04] number four uh green means go funding
[3:06] recommendations and early activation
[3:08] category and uh Garrett has this item
[3:11] for us this afternoon thank you Gary
[3:12] great thank you chair it's my pleasure
[3:14] on the behalf of the larger green means
[3:16] go team to be before you for the
[3:18] recommendations the first ever green
[3:20] means go funding program so it's a
[3:21] testament to a lot of hard work this
[3:23] year also a testament to the foundation
[3:25] this board and many others on the
[3:26] regional Aid of getting that green means
[3:28] go funding into the region so we're
[3:30] talking about today is called the early
[3:31] activation category it's about three
[3:33] million in funding it's the smallest
[3:35] category and just for context
[3:37] um the the categories planning and
[3:39] capital so the second and third category
[3:41] is about 10 times larger we're just due
[3:43] to say congress applications
[3:45] um late last week so the committee this
[3:47] committee and the board will be seeing
[3:49] those funny recommendations early next
[3:51] year so we're talking today about the
[3:52] the first part of green beans go three
[3:54] million of the over 34 million available
[3:55] and we've called that early activation
[3:58] the item for you is an action item one
[4:00] and there's three components of that the
[4:03] first is uh to approve the updated
[4:05] budget for this category I'll come back
[4:06] to that in a second the second is for
[4:08] this committee to recommend the board
[4:09] approve the the scope and funding
[4:11] amounts for the projects and then the
[4:13] third is to a delegate Authority
[4:15] executive director to execute any
[4:17] agreements and also if if there is any
[4:19] to program any residual value
[4:23] um left over we don't plan on that
[4:24] obviously this is a fully funded staff
[4:26] recommendation but just in case there is
[4:28] so let's go back to the first part of
[4:30] that recommendation to budget this early
[4:32] activation category we originally had
[4:34] put a budget four to three million this
[4:37] is funded through a larger granted
[4:38] stakehog receipt from the Strategic
[4:40] growth Council and that includes many
[4:42] tasks one of which is these funding
[4:44] Awards but but many other tasks around
[4:45] uh executing on our sustainable
[4:47] Community strategy and standing up green
[4:49] means go which is a brand new program so
[4:51] about a year into green means go we took
[4:53] stock of where we're at as with some of
[4:55] the tasks we laid out in that Grant
[4:57] and we were also able to move a little
[4:59] bit of funding forward from another
[5:01] program which called reap one to to pay
[5:04] for some of the technical assistance
[5:05] we're doing in this in this program
[5:06] which freed up a little bit of money so
[5:08] that's why you see the staff
[5:09] recommendation before you today is for
[5:11] 3.2 million in funding Awards the
[5:14] original estimate was three million so I
[5:15] want to call attention to that that
[5:16] difference between the original estimate
[5:17] and the staff report gives a little bit
[5:19] more reason to the
[5:21] um the the increase in the staff
[5:22] recommendation
[5:25] um of course you know even with this
[5:27] this a little bit extra Revenue the
[5:28] program's still oversubscribed like many
[5:30] funding programs and um I think the
[5:32] important point to emphasize is we went
[5:34] through a pre-application phase with
[5:35] talking with any interested applicant
[5:37] and sponsor all the projects that came
[5:39] forward are exhibiting you know strong
[5:41] you know alignment with green means go
[5:42] but of course there's not enough money
[5:43] to fund all of them so the reasoning
[5:45] behind the staff recommendation is laid
[5:47] out in the staff report and in
[5:49] particular attachment B lays out project
[5:51] by project the summary of the review
[5:52] criteria and the working group and where
[5:54] they landed and and I should say those
[5:56] criteria were laid out in the guidelines
[5:58] for agreements go which the board
[6:00] adopted earlier this year so of course
[6:02] um you know not enough money if I'm all
[6:03] we very much recognize the projects
[6:04] aren't getting recommended for funding
[6:06] the disappointment there but we feel
[6:07] like the staff recommendation before you
[6:09] is alignment with those criteria laid
[6:11] out in the guidelines so with that we
[6:13] would recommend that this committee move
[6:15] this item to the full board with the 3.2
[6:17] million in funding Awards and that
[6:19] includes my presentation happy to answer
[6:20] any questions you have
[6:22] thank you Garrett any questions at this
[6:25] point
[6:30] uh for the I have a question
[6:33] director Gore their hand up oh yes sorry
[6:35] Bonnie go ahead thank you um
[6:38] the report I had
[6:43] a shoe what was my question
[6:46] the question is these these projects had
[6:49] to be completed within a certain period
[6:52] of time correct So within two years is
[6:54] that correct Spirit yeah absolutely
[6:56] director Gore that was one of the
[6:57] distinctions between this category the
[6:59] early activation really emphasis on
[7:01] early right and so this is a blend of
[7:03] planning and capital so some planning
[7:05] and also infrastructure but but the key
[7:07] point is there's a really near-term time
[7:09] frame so that that helped dictate what
[7:11] projects came forward in this category
[7:12] so you'll see in the other two
[7:14] categories the planning and capital
[7:16] categories right a longer time frame
[7:19] until 2026 sounds like a longer away
[7:21] with infrastructure there's you know
[7:23] still a need to be moving forward on
[7:24] those but I think where you're driving
[7:26] at with your question director gory is
[7:28] that timeline of really needing These
[7:30] funds out the door on spin also dictated
[7:32] what projects came forward in this
[7:33] category yes that was actually the
[7:36] purpose of my question where I was
[7:37] headed so thank you I I appreciate it I
[7:39] mean it's really great to see a number
[7:42] of cities apply and really
[7:45] um
[7:46] actually every city that applied got
[7:48] something
[7:50] um whereas the city of Sacramento
[7:52] Sacramento County or you know have a
[7:54] joint project so this is really good to
[7:56] see thank you
[7:58] yeah uh thank you director Gore my
[8:01] question was just for uh excuse me for
[8:04] the the projects that didn't get funding
[8:08] do we know that they reapply in the next
[8:10] in that second round so of the three
[8:13] that did not or they're not part of
[8:14] Staff regulation one did elect to move
[8:16] forward the Broadway project in the city
[8:18] of Sacramento the other two did not and
[8:20] part of that has to do with in the
[8:21] pre-application phase like we talked
[8:23] about the projects and where they fit
[8:24] this category the early activation
[8:26] category is sort of a microcosm of those
[8:28] two categ other categories but there are
[8:30] some differences so so Broadway was the
[8:32] one that um the sponsor felt had the
[8:33] best fit of moving forward so that
[8:35] project will be part of um the review of
[8:38] the larger Capital larger category
[8:40] called capital
[8:41] understood thank you
[8:43] okay any other questions
[8:46] comments
[8:48] none
[8:52] is anyone prepared to make a motion
[8:54] through the chair
[8:55] yes move to approve thank you Clark
[8:57] Chris second thank you uh yes or Peter
[9:01] did you have a question or were you just
[9:02] going to move move the item
[9:06] just moving out okay all right great we
[9:08] have a first and a second uh do we have
[9:10] any other firmer comments
[9:12] being none uh roll call please sure and
[9:15] for the record no public comment on this
[9:16] item um please indicate your vote
[9:19] director
[9:20] um I Rost
[9:22] absent guyaldo I Gore
[9:26] aye
[9:27] Harris
[9:29] yes
[9:31] Kennedy absent new
[9:34] hi
[9:35] West hi hi sir Baines
[9:39] aye Vice chair Clarks yes and chair
[9:42] sargosa yes motion carries all right
[9:44] serious and do you mind if I just I just
[9:47] want to
[9:48] um I know everybody knows this I think
[9:50] but if you all as elected officials and
[9:53] secog board members and your peers and
[9:56] lots of other folks didn't really work
[9:57] hard the last three years in legislature
[9:59] we wouldn't have an item in front of you
[10:01] today so I just want to I you know I
[10:03] know it's a small relatively speaking
[10:05] small thing but as director gorgeous
[10:07] said really nice to see the regional
[10:09] diversity and the projects coming
[10:11] forward will obviously have more of that
[10:13] as Garrett mentioned in the next the
[10:15] larger cycle this was the money in the
[10:18] budget that Senator pan had really
[10:20] pushed hard for and he really pushed
[10:22] hard for that because of everything that
[10:25] you all did uh the groundwork that we
[10:27] all you all laid and we all laid
[10:30] um there was a lot of like Blood Sweat
[10:32] and Tears so I just want to just want to
[10:34] take a moment and wreck recognize the
[10:36] hard work that has paid off there no
[10:39] thank you James I I was going to just
[10:40] say a couple of words to you which was
[10:42] exactly what you just said uh is a lot
[10:45] of a lot of hard work I really want to
[10:47] thank staff for all the work that went
[10:48] into this uh to put it together and to
[10:50] get these funds out the door it's great
[10:52] to see uh that work and then seeing the
[10:55] fruits of that at the end of the day so
[10:57] thank you Garrett and team for all the
[10:59] work on this item and looking forward to
[11:01] seeing I believe March for the next
[11:05] round of things coming out so or I think
[11:08] we'll all be looking forward to seeing
[11:09] that and then hopefully uh as our
[11:13] efforts continue that even though it's a
[11:15] challenging budget year
[11:18] um you know we need to still be out
[11:20] there advocating and being at the table
[11:21] to try to bring home some additional
[11:23] dollars uh under this program so thank
[11:27] you again
[11:28] all right uh we're gonna move on to our
[11:30] information items uh which is item five
[11:33] and uh that is the Marysville green
[11:36] zones uh specific playing activities and
[11:38] Greg has this item this afternoon thanks
[11:41] Greg great thank you uh Greg Chu on the
[11:43] planning staff at saycog
[11:45] um so periodically uh we try to bring
[11:48] forward some positive efforts that are
[11:50] going on in the region by our local
[11:52] agencies uh just to give inspiration in
[11:55] the example
[11:57] um so
[11:58] um we just talked about the green means
[12:00] go
[12:01] um program it's predecessor program is a
[12:04] regional early action planning grants uh
[12:07] that
[12:08] um secog received and then uh the vast
[12:10] majority of that money went out to uh
[12:13] grants to all of our member agencies uh
[12:16] in the house in the form of housing
[12:17] grants uh things that would provide uh
[12:21] and promote the development of housing
[12:24] the City of Marysville received a couple
[12:26] of Grants uh and uh with us today is
[12:29] Kathy Pease she's a planet consultant
[12:33] long time staff member in Roseville uh
[12:36] retired from there and has been helping
[12:38] our jurisdictions throughout the region
[12:40] uh she's going to describe uh the city's
[12:43] efforts of using these Grant monies as
[12:46] well as the city's own funds to
[12:48] revitalize their Central core area in
[12:52] Marysville so with that Kathy Pease
[12:55] good afternoon everybody I'm pleased to
[12:57] be here
[12:59] um to provide an overview of what's
[13:02] going on in the City of Marysville let
[13:04] me see if I can
[13:05] start this can everyone see that
[13:08] yep great
[13:10] um so yeah as Greg said I am a planning
[13:14] consultant I'm providing support to the
[13:16] City of Marysville
[13:18] probably familiar but Marysville is
[13:21] located in Yuba County
[13:23] it has a population just under 13 000.
[13:27] it's 3.5 square miles and as you can see
[13:30] it's almost entirely surrounded by the
[13:33] river there's a levy that surrounds it
[13:36] because it is in the flood plain
[13:40] some of the challenges are that the City
[13:43] of Marysville is economically
[13:45] disadvantaged a majority of the
[13:48] residents have a low income level it's
[13:52] landlocked because of those levies that
[13:54] I mentioned
[13:55] there are two major State highways that
[13:57] bisect the city both Highway 70 and
[14:01] Highway 20. as a result
[14:05] outside of automobiles it's kind of a
[14:09] struggle to work on Mobility for
[14:11] pedestrians and bicycles with those two
[14:14] freeways going through this site there
[14:17] are not a lot of opportunities for
[14:19] outward growth and because of some of
[14:22] the constraints there's a huge need to
[14:24] try and attract investment and
[14:26] underutilize parcels and while I don't
[14:29] have it on this slide because they're a
[14:31] small City they are very streamlined as
[14:35] far as staff support
[14:37] most of the Departments are one or two
[14:40] people
[14:44] they are fortunate it's very unique in
[14:47] that there are a ton of historic
[14:49] resources there's a federal
[14:52] land Historic Landmark district and
[14:55] there are several individual buildings
[14:58] that qualify both at the federal and
[15:00] state level as historic landmarks
[15:05] with all of that I think that Marysville
[15:08] is really at across roads thanks to the
[15:12] grants that Greg mentioned I think there
[15:15] are a lot of huge opportunities right
[15:18] now
[15:19] so some of the things I'm going to talk
[15:21] about are the general Plan update oops
[15:25] excuse me
[15:26] um
[15:27] and some of the grants that we received
[15:29] and some of the other things going on so
[15:33] the grants they were able to receive a
[15:36] regional early action planning Grant to
[15:39] prepare a specific plan on a portion of
[15:41] the city
[15:42] and we just recently also applied for
[15:46] one of the next green means go grants to
[15:49] look at infrastructure studies on our
[15:51] sewer and our storm water if Marysville
[15:54] is successful in getting that grant that
[15:56] will help provide additional information
[15:58] to this specific plan
[16:00] uh for some reason my slides are
[16:03] automatically advancing I'm not quite
[16:04] sure why
[16:06] um
[16:08] so we are doing a general Plan update uh
[16:11] it's the first one we've done since 1985
[16:14] a reason for that is not a lot of Staff
[16:17] involvement so we're leveraging the
[16:19] grants which are doing allow us to do
[16:23] some technical studies and that will
[16:25] help us also update the general plan at
[16:28] the same time
[16:29] it's a unique opportunity to look at
[16:32] housing and economic development
[16:33] opportunities and we have a very robust
[16:37] outreach program that we've initiated we
[16:39] have a general plan advisory committee
[16:41] that's made up of business owners major
[16:45] employers like right out hospital and
[16:48] Caltrans
[16:49] long-term residents and others we've
[16:53] done uh three meetings so far to see
[16:56] what those folks want as far as the
[16:58] vision for the future for Marysville
[17:01] uh what some constraints that they're
[17:03] concerned about and also we're delving
[17:06] into alternatives
[17:08] as part of that effort we've also done
[17:11] online surveys to get input
[17:16] so the Grant I mentioned is funding a
[17:20] green zone specific plan
[17:22] it is looking at several districts the
[17:25] Ellis Lake the East Street Corridor the
[17:28] downtown commercial Corps as well as
[17:30] what we call the Medical Arts District
[17:32] which is surrounding the hospital
[17:34] so we're excited to see what comes out
[17:37] of that we're hoping that it will
[17:39] identify Catalyst sites that can provide
[17:42] opportunities for infill housing
[17:45] and economic development
[17:48] another grant that we've received is
[17:51] going on this week in partnership with
[17:53] the Urban Land Institute we are doing a
[17:57] workshop tomorrow to look at a
[17:59] city-owned property as shown in this
[18:01] slide there's four corners it's
[18:03] city-owned Parkland but as you see
[18:06] Highway 20 goes right through this no
[18:10] it's very underutilized folks aren't
[18:13] using the park so what we'd like to see
[18:16] if it's feasible to maybe develop two of
[18:19] the quadrants and then use funds that
[18:23] may be
[18:25] um raised through that to do
[18:28] improvements to the other two quadrants
[18:30] to actually make them usable Park and a
[18:32] public benefit so there's going to be a
[18:35] tour with Uli tomorrow and then a study
[18:38] that comes out of that so depending on
[18:40] what the outcome in that effort is it'll
[18:44] help inform the specific plan
[18:49] we recently updated our housing element
[18:51] this past year and one of the things the
[18:54] state have noted is that we really
[18:57] should update the zoning code to be
[18:59] consistent with state law and we need to
[19:02] identify objective design standards so
[19:05] we're working on that as well
[19:08] oops
[19:13] so uh one of the things that we're
[19:15] really excited about uh the city
[19:17] recently over the last eight months has
[19:19] hired an economic development director
[19:21] Dan Flores and he is working with the
[19:25] owner of the Marysville Hotel
[19:27] to look at redeveloping the site for
[19:30] housing and he's also in talks with
[19:33] Rideout hospital to work on an agreement
[19:37] so that a portion of the units can go
[19:40] towards nursing housing so we'll have
[19:42] Workforce housing so I think this is
[19:45] really exciting and we hope to see that
[19:47] move forward in the near future
[19:52] the city owns a five-acre property shown
[19:56] in this slide
[19:57] they are currently in negotiations with
[20:00] the developer to redevelop the site for
[20:03] a hotel restaurant and other mixed uses
[20:06] and so that should be going to council
[20:08] pretty soon so that's exciting
[20:12] and then finally we have the East Lake
[20:14] affordable housing project it's a
[20:17] hundred percent affordable it was
[20:19] approved this past year it will contain
[20:22] 71 units and it's the first multi-family
[20:25] project that's been approved in the last
[20:27] 10 to 20 years in Marysville
[20:29] so amazing thing about this is it was
[20:32] developer driven and it will be
[20:36] providing almost half of the city's
[20:38] Regional Housing needs obligations
[20:41] so with that that concludes my
[20:43] presentation Christina Heredia had hoped
[20:47] to be here this morning she's the new
[20:48] assistant community development director
[20:50] but she's out sick but if folks have
[20:53] questions her contacts here and I'm
[20:55] happy to answer any questions thank you
[20:59] thank you so much uh this is great now
[21:02] just listening is I could just change
[21:04] the word Marysville for Placerville and
[21:06] it'd be almost identical to the
[21:08] situation that we face and some of the
[21:10] things that we're doing so it's just
[21:12] it's great to hear all the things that
[21:13] marysville's uh has going on right now
[21:16] so I'll open it up for questions or
[21:19] comments
[21:21] uh yes Mr Harris
[21:23] yeah Kathy thank you for that
[21:25] presentation I was curious regarding
[21:27] Washington Square
[21:30] um which which of the two which two of
[21:33] the four quadrants were they are you
[21:34] talking thinking about developing yeah
[21:44] uh um and we're looking we're hoping to
[21:47] do affordable or higher density housing
[21:50] and mixed use so maybe commercial and
[21:53] housing
[21:54] um on those two quadrants it's about 2.3
[21:59] Acres so it's not a huge site
[22:03] um but we're hoping to see what comes
[22:05] out of that
[22:08] thank you
[22:10] uh yes director Gore
[22:12] thank you first of all Kathy really nice
[22:14] to see you hey Bonnie love working with
[22:17] you and so I heard your voice I was like
[22:19] oh that's that's wonderful so she's
[22:21] really good at what she does and I can
[22:23] tell based on listening to this and one
[22:26] I'm just really excited to see that uh
[22:29] right we're able to utilize some of
[22:31] these dollars to help smaller
[22:33] jurisdictions actually do some of this
[22:35] planning work like that's really
[22:38] exciting it's huge when you see when you
[22:41] see a community that hasn't had any
[22:44] multi-family housing in you know decades
[22:46] and decades and and there are
[22:48] underutilized Parcels this is this is
[22:51] terrific
[22:53] um my question for you is about the
[22:56] Marysville hotel and I know that it's my
[22:59] understanding I know enough to be super
[23:01] dangerous right like people talked about
[23:03] it on and off for over the years
[23:06] um I love the idea of making it into
[23:08] housing and Workforce housing and
[23:11] partnering with the hospital
[23:13] um How likely might that be and there
[23:15] are there dollars where is there an
[23:17] interested developer
[23:19] um and it's so like also how how many
[23:22] units might it provide
[23:25] um I think it could provide up to 60
[23:27] units although I'm not 100 sure but I
[23:31] think that's what I've heard recently
[23:33] and I think there is huge excitement the
[23:37] person that owns the property is sat on
[23:39] it a long time and I think the new
[23:42] economic development director has really
[23:45] lit a flame and met with the property
[23:47] owner and gotten them really excited
[23:49] about the potential so we are really
[23:53] optimistic that something can actually
[23:55] move forward and having that partnership
[23:57] with bright out hospital is huge because
[24:00] they would fund a portion of the units
[24:03] and I think that is really a catalyst
[24:05] you know uh to have that happen so I'm I
[24:09] don't know that we have a lot of
[24:11] specifics but uh plans are being drawn
[24:14] up and Engineering starting to be done
[24:16] so
[24:17] um we're hopeful that's great thank you
[24:21] thank you uh yes director Clark fretz
[24:24] thank you so much I was anticipating
[24:27] this presentation so much just because
[24:30] what um Kiera Saragosa said I can
[24:33] totally see Loomis
[24:35] um in the same context and you guys are
[24:37] really leading the way and it's super
[24:39] exciting to see what's going on in
[24:41] Marysville and Sean I'm sure
[24:43] um you know it's exciting too
[24:46] um but just love the idea that you're
[24:49] refurbishing the hotel so happy to hear
[24:51] about the workforce housing I love how
[24:54] you've organized and you're able to have
[24:56] so much good going on and just Kudos
[24:59] thank you for the presentation it helps
[25:01] small jurisdictions like us to
[25:04] um you know get even more motivated and
[25:07] excited to see what's happening with you
[25:09] and I appreciate your presentation thank
[25:10] you yeah again can't thank secog enough
[25:13] either you know they're very helpful
[25:17] um getting these grants really helps us
[25:19] to leverage other things so it's amazing
[25:22] yeah no that was really cool we we
[25:24] Loomis is in the same boat basically we
[25:27] just did our working on our general Plan
[25:29] update as well and so we're sort of
[25:31] tracking along the same way as you so
[25:33] thank you that's
[25:36] I have a question on uh on your photo on
[25:41] your housing projects did you have to
[25:43] change any of your zoning in order to
[25:45] get the developers to come forward just
[25:48] wondering if there was a Nexus between
[25:50] the zoning or it was just a good time
[25:53] um during the economy at that time to go
[25:55] forward with that project
[25:57] yes it was down to R3 so it was already
[26:00] zoned for
[26:02] that level of density so that was
[26:06] fortunate and I do think it had to do
[26:08] with the timing of the economy
[26:10] great no it's it's great it's good to
[26:13] see that we were kind of the same thing
[26:15] we're tracking a little bit behind
[26:16] Marysville we have three affordable
[26:19] housing projects coming forward and we
[26:20] had done some overlay zones several
[26:23] years ago in order to kind of be put in
[26:26] that position to to do that and then
[26:28] into just reading you know that the
[26:30] bisecting by two highways you know we
[26:32] have Highway 49 and Highway 50 so right
[26:35] all about that being bisected and the
[26:38] challenges that that come with that so
[26:40] again thank thank you and uh yes uh
[26:43] direct director new
[26:44] uh I had a question for Kathy as far as
[26:48] the
[26:49] um working with the hotel is it in the
[26:54] position of name to be seismic uh
[26:57] retrofitted as well as
[27:00] okay I was just wondering if that was
[27:02] included in
[27:03] in the problem so yes we have we have a
[27:08] couple of buildings in Winters that are
[27:12] in that position so
[27:14] um we're having a hard time finding
[27:16] anybody with money enough to do it
[27:18] that's absolutely yeah okay thank you
[27:21] thank you Pierre any other questions or
[27:24] comments
[27:26] all right scene done Kathy Greg thank
[27:29] you uh for the presentation today I
[27:31] think you could tell a lot of us that
[27:33] are from smaller jurisdictions really
[27:35] appreciate uh the updates and what
[27:37] you're doing and just you know having
[27:39] those ideas out there for us to track on
[27:41] as well and then also From saycog
[27:43] perspective of seeing those dollars
[27:45] being put to use so that smaller
[27:48] jurisdictions like ours can actually
[27:50] have the extra staff power to get things
[27:53] done that you know in a one or two
[27:55] person shop really might not be able to
[27:57] yes
[27:59] thank you and cheers our gross I don't
[28:01] know if this was mentioned but for I had
[28:03] to step out a sec but if for those of
[28:05] you that were over lunch we had the
[28:07] presentation from the ace and sound
[28:08] working rail commission was this already
[28:10] said no no and no just the fact that you
[28:13] know it's also what's so exciting here
[28:15] uh Kathy and and others as you've got uh
[28:19] you got a potential rail extension with
[28:21] Mir with downtown Marysville on the map
[28:24] just as you're doing a specific plan
[28:25] update right and I don't know the last
[28:27] time you had well daytime passenger rail
[28:30] service there it was like 60 years ago
[28:31] so I'm hopeful that's really a spark as
[28:35] well I know Kathy you're you've got your
[28:36] site set on that but I'm not just
[28:38] station location but what it means for
[28:40] the downtown right and the economic
[28:43] activity and the interest and parcels
[28:44] and our fingers are crossed we're trying
[28:46] to help on that one too that's awesome
[28:51] all right all right well again thank you
[28:53] and we'll look forward to more updates
[28:56] as this comes along absolutely thank
[29:00] you thank you
[29:02] okay uh we're gonna go ahead and move on
[29:04] to our next information item item six uh
[29:07] and this is the Sacramento area zero
[29:10] emission vehicle development strategy
[29:12] and I know Sam's out today so clinch
[29:14] will be handling the presentation yeah
[29:16] so thank you I will do my best to fill
[29:18] in for for Sam and we're also joined by
[29:22] Rachel Huang from the Sacramento
[29:25] Metropolitan utility district from SMUD
[29:27] and I think Kevin Schroeder is here from
[29:29] Sacramento Regional Transit and then I
[29:31] thought it was going to be reporter but
[29:32] I think I might see Jaime lemus here is
[29:34] uh is here from the stock Metro Air
[29:36] District
[29:38] um so let me jump and forgive me if
[29:41] we're a little clumsy going through the
[29:43] slides Sam couldn't join today so I
[29:45] think I'm gonna kind of call on folks
[29:48] but uh as we go I think Rachel you're
[29:50] gonna kick us off here
[29:52] with the first couple of slides
[29:55] and then I will I'll control the uh the
[29:58] slide deck so just tell me when you're
[29:59] ready to advance okay perfect thank you
[30:01] Clint and uh good afternoon everyone
[30:04] um my name is Rachel Wong as Clint
[30:06] mentioned I'm the director of customer
[30:07] grid strategies
[30:09] and really appreciate all of you having
[30:10] us uh to talk to you about the work of
[30:13] what we call the core agency
[30:14] collaborative so that's comprised of
[30:16] SMUD suck our teeth they come in
[30:20] um you know what I love is that the four
[30:21] agency is recognized a few years ago the
[30:24] importance of a focus in a large region
[30:26] to advance the clean mobility and
[30:28] supportive
[30:30] hey Rachel I'm sorry to cut you off
[30:32] Rachel
[30:33] um anybody else but I'm going to say
[30:35] that it you're kind of going in and out
[30:37] like fading in and out a little bit oh
[30:39] really I don't know why that is
[30:42] hmm But if I'm guessing other board
[30:45] members are having a hard time yeah you
[30:46] might maybe if you go off off camera you
[30:49] might get more bandwidth it could be
[30:51] maybe potentially solve it
[30:54] let me let me switch my earphones too
[30:57] you know but our Network at the end
[31:07] is that any better
[31:08] much better
[31:16] maybe not
[31:18] okay
[31:19] um uh no you're still cutting it before
[31:22] agencies recognized a few years ago the
[31:24] importance of working together and so
[31:25] we've actually been meeting
[31:27] um for the last several years
[31:29] information collaborating design
[31:32] initiatives as well as working together
[31:34] hey Rachel I'm really sorry to do this
[31:36] but it's still
[31:39] working around the world's still pretty
[31:40] bad
[31:42] including
[32:06] can you hear me Rachel
[32:08] we're having a we're still having a
[32:10] tough time hearing you
[32:12] um
[32:13] I don't know if we can maybe switch
[32:15] around the
[32:17] the slides to see if we can get Rachel a
[32:19] better connection
[32:30] okay can you still hear me
[32:32] no
[32:34] I think we're having an issue
[32:37] unfortunately
[32:41] Rachel if you're able to maybe we can
[32:44] have you call in but I can I can kind of
[32:46] introduce these these first slides and
[32:48] then maybe you can rejoin us if uh if
[32:50] that works better
[32:57] why don't we go ahead and do that clinic
[32:59] if yeah if so yeah
[33:01] um yeah so Rachel if you can hear me
[33:03] well you'll if you can uh maybe try to
[33:06] reconnect I'll introduce these slides
[33:07] and we'll go through and then maybe you
[33:08] can you can join us uh
[33:10] so
[33:12] um this so
[33:13] this is a collaboration we've got with
[33:16] SMUD near District
[33:17] um and uh and sacrt to really look at
[33:20] how we can advance zero emission vehicle
[33:22] technology in the region
[33:24] um and we are looking at four primary
[33:29] strategies for how to do this around
[33:31] Transit Fleet conversion medium and
[33:33] heavy duty Freight
[33:35] um vehicles and infrastructure
[33:37] um e-mobility Hub so how do we get
[33:39] electric vehicles
[33:41] um and electric shared Vehicles into
[33:43] more disadvantaged communities where
[33:46] they may not be able to afford to
[33:48] purchase you know their own their own
[33:50] cars their own vehicles and then also to
[33:53] support all of that infrastructure and
[33:55] that investment with a Workforce that
[33:57] can be trained up in our region to help
[34:01] introduce these Technologies and also
[34:03] provide some really great economic
[34:05] opportunities for for our residents and
[34:08] um Kevin Shredder if you're there I
[34:09] think you're gonna you're gonna pick up
[34:10] on this next slide about the transit
[34:13] Fleet conversion and refueling
[34:14] infrastructure I am thank you so Kevin
[34:16] schroederer staff RT senior planner if I
[34:20] do cut out please let me know wave but
[34:22] hopefully you can hear me
[34:24] um so first of all we just want to say
[34:25] we are really truly appreciative the
[34:27] partnership and collaboration with the
[34:28] four agencies
[34:30] um it's nice to know that we're all
[34:31] moving in the same alignment towards a
[34:33] zero emission Transportation sector as
[34:36] you know security is required by the Air
[34:38] Resource Board to be 100 zero emission
[34:40] uh bus fleet by 2040
[34:43] um and by 2030 all buses have to be zero
[34:46] emission that are purchased by us
[34:48] currently right now we have 240 big
[34:51] buses so the 40 Footers and 200 cutaway
[34:54] vehicles for Ada and micro Transit
[34:57] um if you count the entire six County
[34:59] region with a replacement or conversion
[35:01] that's going to be 600 buses in the due
[35:04] time as a requirement currently we have
[35:07] 24-0 emission big buses and or sorry 24
[35:11] Mission clean air sorry 24 zero Mission
[35:16] electric buses 15 of them are big buses
[35:18] so 40 Footers and then nine of them are
[35:20] cuddles
[35:21] um with the support of the four agencies
[35:23] that we've been working with we've been
[35:24] able to do a zero emission bus rollout
[35:26] plan which gives us a road map for our
[35:28] transition and how we purchase when we
[35:30] purchase
[35:31] um so we can hit those marks set forward
[35:34] um currently right now we are looking
[35:36] for facility planning to accommodate our
[35:39] future Fleet as our downtown
[35:40] notification cannot fit all the
[35:42] infrastructure needed we're looking in
[35:44] the southern area of Sacramento finding
[35:47] industrial yards and things of that sort
[35:49] the base impact obviously is to look at
[35:52] the relocation for maintenance the
[35:54] garages the storage of vehicles and then
[35:56] the cost and one thing that this group
[35:58] is going to be very helpful with us is
[36:00] looking at the infrastructure upgrades
[36:01] needed for such a big Fleet
[36:04] um move so with the bipartisan
[36:07] infrastructure Bill and historic levels
[36:09] of funding we find this a great time to
[36:11] really focus in on zero emission
[36:12] transportation and and that's why we're
[36:15] here and excited to move forward with
[36:17] this four agencies zero Mission plan to
[36:19] uh better the region so I'll give it
[36:22] back to you
[36:24] thanks and uh and so I'll cover this
[36:27] slide on Goods movement medium heavy
[36:29] duty so this is
[36:31] um that maybe heavy duty trucks are
[36:33] freight trucks they're a small amount of
[36:34] the total kind of miles we see traveled
[36:37] on our on our roadways around three
[36:39] percent of the overall travel but they
[36:41] account for a much higher share of total
[36:44] emissions around 20 of greenhouse gas
[36:46] emissions over 50 percent of particulate
[36:48] matter and ozone precursors so getting
[36:51] them to be able to transition to a more
[36:53] clean future is is hugely important and
[36:55] a great opportunity
[36:57] um the we say Cog recently received well
[37:01] before that um SMUD kind of in a few
[37:04] years ago did some some interviews with
[37:07] Fleet managers kind of looking at this
[37:09] chicken and egg is you do the do the
[37:11] vehicles come first or does the
[37:12] infrastructure come first and public
[37:14] agencies maybe shied away or there
[37:16] hasn't been as much investment in the
[37:18] infrastructure waiting for the market
[37:20] for vehicles to take off but there's a
[37:21] lot of hesitation from Fleet managers
[37:23] wanting to invest in this technology if
[37:26] they don't know that they can charge or
[37:27] refuel uh reliably so
[37:30] um having a public investment in this
[37:33] infrastructure is hugely important
[37:35] um saycog recently got a grant from
[37:37] Caltrans to work with our Mega region
[37:39] Partners in the Bay Area and San Joaquin
[37:41] to look at charging infrastructure and
[37:44] refueling infrastructure for this is an
[37:46] important Point particularly for for
[37:49] those heavier Duty Vehicles the electric
[37:52] electric can be part of the solution but
[37:55] you don't want to put all your eggs in
[37:56] that basket right hydrogen other zero
[37:58] emission fuels are hugely important
[37:59] particularly for that longer haul so the
[38:02] study that we're looking at is looking
[38:03] for you know 11 stations through our
[38:05] region primarily connecting us to the
[38:07] Bay Area
[38:08] um and uh and where those where those
[38:11] stations might be located and then what
[38:13] it's going to take to invest in those to
[38:15] get that infrastructure laid so that we
[38:17] can create some more confidence in the
[38:19] technology and see if we can get the
[38:20] market to respond
[38:22] so
[38:23] um that there's more to come on on that
[38:26] grant that we're working on I think SMUD
[38:28] is also kind of wrapping up a grant to
[38:30] look at uh infrastructure needs in
[38:33] Sacramento and West Sacramento so
[38:35] there's a lot going on in this space
[38:36] right now and it's a it's a very
[38:38] important part of this of this overall
[38:40] strategy and then I believe it is Rafe
[38:44] here that can maybe walk us a little bit
[38:46] through these uh charging and
[38:48] transportation options in
[38:50] um under-resourced communities
[38:52] yeah uh thanks Clint uh good afternoon I
[38:54] hope you can hear me okay
[38:56] um I want to Echo something Uh Kevin
[38:58] said earlier that this relationship
[39:00] between the four agencies has been
[39:02] fantastic I think it's gotten us all on
[39:04] the same page and definitely looking
[39:05] forward to how we plan
[39:07] um in this space moving forward
[39:09] I think no one understands this issue of
[39:12] Mobility better than say Cog and this
[39:15] board so thanks for having us here today
[39:17] to talk about this why Mobility is so
[39:19] important obviously you know you need to
[39:21] get to work you need to get to school
[39:23] you need to get to the services that we
[39:25] all need to get to because of of past
[39:28] planning practices and implementation of
[39:30] some of those practices not everyone has
[39:33] that same option or or Mobility that we
[39:37] all that we all need to get to those
[39:39] services and so uh the transition to
[39:43] electric vehicles has often taken that
[39:45] same made that same mistake of
[39:48] under-resourcing some of these
[39:49] communities that continue to be
[39:51] under-resourced so we wanted to take a
[39:53] really deep look at where those
[39:55] communities are and and what is actually
[39:57] needed within those within those
[39:59] communities
[40:00] um so we're looking at things like
[40:03] electric vehicles and yes electric
[40:05] vehicles do exist within a lot of these
[40:07] communities the air district for example
[40:09] has two great programs we have our
[40:11] community car share and clean cars for
[40:13] all that provide access to clean safe
[40:17] reliable transportation such as plug-in
[40:19] and full battery electric vehicles and
[40:22] there's just more of a market demand for
[40:24] for these types of vehicles there's also
[40:26] car share and ride share opportunities
[40:28] as well as as e-bike and scooters and in
[40:31] many of these communities
[40:32] so what we're looking to do we've
[40:34] identified 52 Mobility hubs throughout
[40:37] the region and these can be both formal
[40:40] and informal it's really just a
[40:42] concentration of these Mobility
[40:43] Solutions in a particular area to again
[40:46] provide people access and Mobility that
[40:48] they might not have had in the past with
[40:51] that we've identified the need for for
[40:53] Ev Chargers installed in these
[40:55] communities as well
[40:56] again there are electric vehicles
[40:58] already in these whether it's the ride
[41:00] share or car share there is starting to
[41:02] be a lot of of ownership of of plug-in
[41:05] and electric vehicles so there is an
[41:07] existing need for Ev Chargers in these
[41:09] communities to be installed and we're
[41:11] seeing a huge increase in that demand
[41:13] the four agencies has worked together to
[41:16] identify what that demand might be and
[41:18] we're thinking or based on our estimates
[41:21] we're anticipating about 300 000 light
[41:24] duty electric vehicles within the region
[41:26] so there is going to need to be a quite
[41:28] a bit of of charging infrastructure
[41:30] associated with that so while we have a
[41:32] large focus on the medium and heavy duty
[41:34] side as well which is definitely
[41:35] important especially in these again in
[41:37] these under-resourced communities where
[41:39] a lot of these operations happen there
[41:41] is a really big need for on the light
[41:42] duty side as well to to make sure that
[41:44] we provide these Mobility options that
[41:47] um they they haven't had for some time
[41:49] so I will turn it back over I I think
[41:52] Rachel's back on the line so I don't
[41:54] know if we want to give it another shot
[41:55] with her but she's got the next slide if
[41:56] not um I can probably handle that as
[41:58] well okay can you hear me can anyone
[42:00] hear me yes we got you now okay yes
[42:03] thank you apologies for the technical
[42:06] difficulties so the last topic um with
[42:08] regards to the strategy is Workforce
[42:10] Development and we know that this
[42:11] transition to a zero emissions future is
[42:13] is a huge opportunity actually for our
[42:15] region to enable inclusive Economic
[42:17] Development by training members of our
[42:19] community particularly those as we've
[42:21] mentioned you know within our
[42:22] underrepresented under-resourced
[42:24] communities and it's going to be really
[42:25] critical for us to create that pathway
[42:27] for them from the training to the
[42:29] employment
[42:30] um and and being able to do so within
[42:32] those high paying clean energy jobs that
[42:33] we'll be creating for the future this
[42:35] matches really well with the significant
[42:37] need of skilled Staffing to support the
[42:39] zero emissions transition and I think
[42:40] you know we're definitely seeing it SMUD
[42:42] I think all of our agents are seeing
[42:44] those needs for the future so work is
[42:47] actually already underway with
[42:48] community-based organizations to train
[42:50] members of our underrepresented
[42:52] communities in multiple technology areas
[42:54] and there's actually been a Workforce
[42:55] Development program that started in
[42:57] partnership with the California mobility
[42:58] center specifically focused on clean
[43:00] Mobility jobs but this strategy area
[43:02] really looks at kind of four key areas
[43:05] which is one identifying the jobs that
[43:07] we need and assessing those skills that
[43:09] we need to train for relative to entry
[43:11] level employment partnering with those
[43:13] educational institutions trade
[43:15] organizations community-based
[43:16] organizations as well as others to
[43:18] continue to build and expand those
[43:20] training programs relative to the
[43:21] evolving skills that are needed
[43:23] working with key Partners to ensure that
[43:26] the training includes job preparedness
[43:28] as well as placement and supporting our
[43:31] candidates through those early stages of
[43:33] employment even after they've received a
[43:34] job and by ensuring access to wraparound
[43:37] services so things like Child Care
[43:38] Transportation case management and more
[43:40] to really ensure that these people are
[43:42] are prepared as they as they go through
[43:44] these new careers and then finally
[43:46] establishing those strong relationships
[43:48] with the trades and employee layers from
[43:50] the start to make sure that these
[43:52] training programs meet their needs as
[43:53] well as ensure that those candidates are
[43:55] well prepared for those jobs from the
[43:57] employers themselves
[43:59] next slide
[44:01] so you know I think everybody has
[44:03] mentioned this but you know I'm going to
[44:05] close at least this part by saying you
[44:07] know we started this collaboration
[44:09] between our agencies in recognition that
[44:11] by having a unified voice for our region
[44:13] that we would be able to better make our
[44:15] shared Vision come to fruition and I've
[44:17] really enjoyed working with with this
[44:19] whole group and not only developing this
[44:22] but actually even getting started on a
[44:23] lot of these initiatives as well and
[44:25] really believe that this effort is
[44:28] really going to prepare us well with
[44:29] regards to attracting funding and
[44:31] resources to help us with our regional
[44:33] goals I'm also very excited that these
[44:36] shared efforts are aligned to support
[44:37] delivery to key adjacent efforts like
[44:39] SMUD sustainable communities resource
[44:42] priorities work as well as saycogs green
[44:44] means go initiative and I'm just looking
[44:46] forward to working with this team
[44:48] hopefully that on these initiatives that
[44:51] are going to be hopefully well funded by
[44:52] the federal agencies as well as state
[44:54] funds to move forward our goals for the
[44:56] region and you know like I said we're
[44:58] already starting to see some of this
[45:00] coming to fruition has been screening
[45:02] grant opportunities all year and a lot
[45:05] of them are popping up as hey this would
[45:07] be a great opportunity for the four
[45:09] agency collaborative to work on together
[45:11] so with that I will hand it back to
[45:14] Clint
[45:15] so just to kind of close this out and
[45:16] Rachel got to this a little bit right
[45:18] now we're kind of in we've this this is
[45:20] a brand new document brand new strategy
[45:22] that we published just in the last
[45:24] handful of months
[45:25] um we're now kind of going around and
[45:27] socializing this we've we've been
[45:29] presenting to each of our boards
[45:31] um Rachel mentioned you know there's a
[45:32] lot of need for a collaboration outside
[45:34] of just these four agencies and so we're
[45:36] working forward with that or working
[45:38] together to to move this around the
[45:41] region and make sure everyone is
[45:42] everyone who needs to be as aware and
[45:44] engaged in this
[45:46] um and then also you know why is this
[45:47] alignment important but there's a huge
[45:49] amount of money coming and available
[45:51] through the the federal infrastructure
[45:53] Investments jobs act and here's just 1.2
[45:56] 1.2 trillion dollars and here are just
[45:58] some of those programs that are going to
[46:00] be out there that we want to just make
[46:02] sure our region is at the table and
[46:04] ready for these for these programs so
[46:05] this strategy is a is kind of a road map
[46:08] for how we can be really competitive for
[46:10] these for these funds so with that I
[46:13] will I think we can stop sharing the
[46:14] PowerPoint and and we have our panel
[46:17] here for any questions or comments from
[46:19] the committee all right thank you and
[46:23] I'm glad we were able to get you back
[46:24] Rachel
[46:26] um I know it's two years into the
[46:28] pandemic or plus but we will continue to
[46:31] have these problems I think as we do
[46:33] these hybrid meetings so thank you for
[46:35] sticking with us here on that uh any
[46:37] questions or comments
[46:42] I do have one on the Workforce
[46:45] Development side you know it's always
[46:47] been a i i it's always been a not a not
[46:51] a complaint but an irritation to me when
[46:54] I hear sort of the the green green new
[46:56] jobs because it's always I've always
[46:58] thought of it as sort of a cheap
[46:59] throwaway line when you talk about real
[47:01] jobs that I know I work with a lot of
[47:03] folks uh Carpenters Building Trades that
[47:07] have jobs that pay over a hundred
[47:09] thousand dollars a year in the gas and
[47:13] oil industries that take care of
[47:15] families that they were able to buy
[47:17] houses and and really contribute to
[47:19] their uh you know to their neighborhoods
[47:22] and to their regions and so I'd love to
[47:24] hear more about what those jobs look
[47:26] like and anything that I can do to help
[47:29] move that and and do that because I do
[47:31] know that there will be a transition but
[47:34] um you know we really I think you have
[47:36] to see that in order for us to really I
[47:39] think make sense for people that are
[47:41] going to be maybe out of wholesale
[47:42] sectors and what that means to those
[47:44] families and really to those Regional
[47:47] economies as well
[47:50] I'll just comment that I think that
[47:52] that's a point that it's not just about
[47:54] new jobs and bringing new people into
[47:57] the sector but it's also how do we help
[47:59] those that are in different sectors make
[48:01] certain transitions as certain
[48:02] transition sector as certain sectors
[48:04] transition so I think that that's really
[48:06] good feedback and I think that goes back
[48:08] to how do we think about who are those
[48:10] future employers and even the existing
[48:13] employers and where where are the skills
[48:15] needed and then how do we enable that
[48:17] because the reality is is that there are
[48:19] going to there is a need for for skilled
[48:22] Workforce and I think taking existing
[48:24] skilled Workforce and being able to them
[48:26] move them into jobs as certain things
[48:28] change but also I think a big part of
[48:32] the workforce strategy is really looking
[48:34] at how do we bring new people in as well
[48:37] and train them up that might not even
[48:39] have those beginning skills to begin
[48:40] with because I think there will be
[48:42] enough jobs uh to to make that demand
[48:46] and I I love the comments on the sort of
[48:49] medium-sized uh you know trucks and
[48:53] vehicles I think because that is a we
[48:55] always think of the larger ones but
[48:56] there's such a huge uh need for that
[48:59] medium-sized well in terms of the
[49:01] infrastructure and the charging
[49:02] infrastructure that's going to be needed
[49:03] in the future I appreciate hearing that
[49:05] in the presentation as well
[49:09] any other comments
[49:12] anything you wanted to add
[49:19] as a long time fleet manager for the
[49:23] yellow bus world I'm thrilled to see the
[49:25] conversation
[49:27] um and thinking I can throw just a
[49:28] little bit uh on the jobs piece one of
[49:31] the most important things that I know
[49:32] that we saw the transition
[49:34] um through Elk Grove School District we
[49:36] ran CNG we had uh passive traps we had
[49:39] active um traps we had propane we had
[49:43] diesel so you're going through that
[49:46] process and you have the the
[49:49] um diesel mechanics that can go out and
[49:50] wrench on your equipment but it's
[49:53] changed so much now you also need them
[49:55] to be able to take the laptop out to do
[49:56] the Diagnostics and when we introduced
[49:59] electric for the first time that's a
[50:01] whole nother skill set and there truly
[50:03] is a crisis in finding equipment
[50:06] mechanics that can do all of those
[50:08] pieces and quite frankly if I think if
[50:11] we all look at our schools you'll see
[50:14] there are not credentialed teachers that
[50:16] are able to teach those close classes we
[50:19] don't have our colleges kicking out
[50:21] folks that have a credential in those
[50:24] kind of industrial arts or mechanics any
[50:27] longer so it's something we need to talk
[50:29] about
[50:31] um
[50:31] I think two of the other big piece as as
[50:34] of all those different types of
[50:36] alternative fuels and where the
[50:38] hesitation comes from is even in the
[50:41] requirements I had to do 250 of my white
[50:45] fleet vehicles and got them all done and
[50:48] everything up in order and then that
[50:49] date keeps changing very frustrating
[50:52] when you have a deadline and then you
[50:54] see that a lot of people aren't going to
[50:56] make the deadline so then they move it
[50:58] for another year or they move it for
[50:59] another year and meanwhile I've gone to
[51:01] my board and said I have to have this
[51:04] done here's the deadline so it's just
[51:07] um
[51:07] that was one of the frustrating pieces
[51:10] and then thrilled to to start with our
[51:14] first electric buses we started with 12
[51:16] but the range
[51:19] um is a is a huge issue in Elk Grove
[51:22] School District the uh it's about 320
[51:24] square miles about a third of Sacramento
[51:27] County and the bus first electric buses
[51:30] had a 70-mile range well I don't have
[51:32] time to send a bus from Stockton and
[51:36] Florin out to Anatolia at Douglas uh and
[51:39] out Jackson Highway and then get it back
[51:42] and then be able to run again in the in
[51:45] the afternoon
[51:46] um it and then that means I can't use it
[51:48] for a mid-range and then let's not
[51:50] forget oh gosh there's a basketball or
[51:52] football game tonight but that's in
[51:53] Roseville well that can't make it so it
[51:56] really and I love that we're working on
[51:59] it but I need to always remind everybody
[52:02] um I guess we won't take that field trip
[52:04] to the Exploratorium in San Francisco
[52:07] because I can't get there and there's
[52:08] not enough time to charge if I do and I
[52:11] I know going through that with with
[52:13] compressed natural gas you know you'd
[52:15] look it up and say oh here's a station
[52:17] and then I you know sure enough I get
[52:19] the football team down to Fresno and oh
[52:21] guess what they're not working and now
[52:23] I've got 60 kids on a school bus and I'm
[52:25] stuck with nothing so it's it's really I
[52:29] I want us to work on it but I want us to
[52:32] be very cautious and realistic that
[52:34] there are some some restrictions and
[52:37] some limitations SMUD was wonderful
[52:39] about helping us get the infrastructure
[52:41] in because we had to upgrade
[52:44] um significantly and then exactly as you
[52:47] mentioned just the facility now I have
[52:49] my place where all my plug-in buses are
[52:52] for traps and then now I've got my CNG
[52:54] plug-ins and now I need to have my
[52:56] electric I don't have any space anymore
[52:58] I'm running out of physical space so I'm
[53:02] glad to hear you're working with those
[53:03] folks but I think if you're seeing a
[53:06] um
[53:07] hesitancy to jump in that's why at the
[53:11] smaller I know for us a smaller School
[53:13] District they can't do it because they
[53:14] don't have the backup of extra buses
[53:16] yeah you have to go with the bigger guys
[53:18] that can handle it to have some out of
[53:20] um that are not are out of service
[53:25] thank you director guyaldo for those
[53:28] really practical and real world
[53:29] implications when you're talking about
[53:31] these types of transitions appreciate
[53:34] that
[53:37] somebody else
[53:40] foreign
[53:44] well
[53:46] um so you've heard from our partners and
[53:48] we're really happy to have everybody
[53:49] here today as well for the four agencies
[53:52] you know one of the one I mean there's
[53:55] so much good news in all of here but one
[53:57] of the challenges we have obviously is
[53:58] the footprint of some of our partner
[54:00] agencies isn't quite as big as ours
[54:02] right and so I'm looking around the
[54:04] table here
[54:05] um and and but that's not to say that
[54:08] actually you know the air District uh
[54:11] and Ray Porter here actually aren't
[54:13] working with the air districts in
[54:15] Feather River and other places but but
[54:19] we're aware that we need frankly as
[54:21] we've said earlier a mega Regional
[54:23] strategy right around some of the uh
[54:25] infrastructure and the fueling and
[54:27] electrification
[54:29] um so that's you know just just
[54:31] understand that a lot of this uh is a
[54:34] footprint right now for Sacramento
[54:35] County but we we're thinking actually
[54:38] even bigger across the 16 counties
[54:41] um and yeah there'll be more to come on
[54:43] that as we launch our Mega Regional zero
[54:45] emission vehicle infrastructure study
[54:48] and I know director Baines you know a
[54:50] lot of interest up in your district and
[54:52] Yuba Sutter right in the infrastructure
[54:54] there
[54:55] um so I guess stay tuned on that I just
[54:58] wanted to point out that we're we're
[55:00] still trying to work to make this uh not
[55:02] just six County but a 16 County effort
[55:06] well said James and again I want to
[55:08] thank uh SMUD and AQMD and RT for being
[55:12] with us this afternoon uh for giving us
[55:15] the update and for all the exciting work
[55:16] that's going on as we move forward so
[55:19] thank you all and Clint thank you for
[55:21] for jumping in as well
[55:25] okay
[55:27] uh so we're going to go to item seven uh
[55:29] which are committee reports and we'll go
[55:33] ahead and open it up to the floor uh for
[55:35] anyone that like to give a report
[55:43] any takers how Pam how was the uh how
[55:46] was your open house at the Museum oh it
[55:48] went well it was uh one of uh Donna
[55:51] Tully's uh last uh events is um County
[55:54] Supervisor so yeah and I was surprised
[55:57] with a turnout being in the middle of
[55:59] the day in the middle of the week
[56:02] very good yeah News 10 did a report so
[56:04] yeah I plan on getting out there I want
[56:06] to see it so yeah I was amazed at like
[56:09] I've sit on that museum board I'm amazed
[56:11] to even pulled it off from considering
[56:13] that um that it's I mean yard sales and
[56:17] big sales we're not going to do it I'm
[56:19] surprised like
[56:20] um like a couple agencies pitched in in
[56:23] some donations
[56:25] very good I have a feeling it's
[56:27] supervisor until he's farewell tour
[56:28] might be a little bit like Elton John's
[56:29] farewell yeah it's going to last a while
[56:32] I agree
[56:34] anybody else
[56:37] all right see none I know uh we have two
[56:40] uh receiving file items I don't know
[56:42] staff wanted to make any uh comments on
[56:45] those two items
[56:47] those are the it's the blueprint
[56:49] implementation uh and then the trails
[56:52] correct Grant so I don't know if we have
[56:54] anything to add to those but um
[56:57] well one on the just the blueprint
[57:00] implementation activities
[57:02] um definitely encourage you heard from
[57:04] Marysville today
[57:05] um yep steak does have access to Grants
[57:07] but we're also very willing to help your
[57:10] staff you with identifying grants
[57:12] applying for Grants but also we've got
[57:15] some some good expertise on our on our
[57:17] staff as well as we can connect you to
[57:19] other staff that are that are very well
[57:21] educated on a lot of these kind of
[57:23] strategies for advancing housing and
[57:25] other things around the region so
[57:27] um definitely reach out to to myself to
[57:29] James to any of us if we can be of
[57:31] service to your your agencies because
[57:33] we'd love to to highlight you and some
[57:35] of those receiving files or even bring
[57:36] you to to some of these committees so we
[57:38] can
[57:39] share what you're doing in your
[57:40] communities as well
[57:42] all right thank you cheers Eric I said
[57:45] um one thing just to pass along
[57:46] um I was talking to Vice chair Kennedy
[57:48] yesterday and he was a census apologies
[57:51] uh with uh director Frost there in a
[57:53] Sacramento County Board of Supervisors
[57:54] Retreat all day
[57:56] um we gave him some ideas about some
[57:59] places to visit around the region and
[58:01] some of you to come visit I know he
[58:02] couldn't do all of you so apologies if
[58:04] you haven't gotten a visit from Vice
[58:06] chair Kennedy but he just wanted to be
[58:08] passed along that he's really
[58:09] appreciated uh it's really opened his
[58:12] eyes to see the diversity of the region
[58:14] and just really wants to pass his his
[58:16] thanks along to all of you uh being
[58:18] gracious with your time if you've been
[58:20] able to see him
[58:22] um so that's that's from the vice chair
[58:24] he was just in uh in El Dorado County
[58:26] unfortunately I was out of state on a
[58:29] business trip at the last minute so but
[58:31] Wendy uh uh met with Vice chair and so
[58:34] yes we we thank you for coming up and he
[58:37] and I are getting together in a couple
[58:38] of weeks uh after that since I wasn't
[58:40] able to make it uh Tuesday I think so
[58:43] he's definitely making the rounds
[58:46] we got to spend a little time in Rocklin
[58:48] last week and we had a wonderful time
[58:50] and it was great that he'd been there
[58:51] previously so he already knew quite a
[58:53] bit
[58:54] perfect
[58:56] all right well then uh let's see here it
[58:59] is 2 30 so I will uh seed back to
[59:02] everybody a half an hour of their
[59:04] afternoon I just want to thank you this
[59:06] is I guess this will be my last meeting
[59:07] as chair of the lunar committee so I
[59:10] want to thank all the members and my
[59:11] vice chairs uh for the help
[59:14] um throughout this whole year and again
[59:16] next year looking forward to seeing
[59:18] everybody in in person uh hopefully as
[59:21] we go forward here so again thank you uh
[59:24] and I will talk to you all soon meetings
[59:26] adjourned
[59:27] thank you ready