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to call the city council committee

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meeting to border for Monday December 19

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2022.

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ladies and gentlemen tonight ladies and

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gentlemen the meeting is in order

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hello the meeting's in order

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thank you

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the first committee is finance

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thank you good evening everyone of

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course item is the 2823 New York State

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stop DWI planned Brands assistant team

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good evening

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requesting that we accept the 2023 New

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York State stop DUI Grant it's 22 000

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there is no matching funds involved we

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use this for Staffing to

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accept the advice

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any questions

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go ahead please so um with the police

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department I see that it's coming

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through the county

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to the police department yes will the

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county be involved at all in doing the

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actual

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um UWI itself

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so the high enforcement of the patient

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than they are yeah so the regular

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um funds are just forced into dpd and

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the high enforcement we work with other

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agencies so maybe Schenectady and maybe

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Niskayuna that is for the high bills

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high visibility the six thousand dollars

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that's in conjunction with the other

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agencies but then all that money comes

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through the city okay thank you

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any other questions

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I'm moving second all in favor all right

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thank you the next item is just a

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reminder the application for ReStore New

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York around Seven Grand

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reminder the public hearing is scheduled

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for the 27th of this month

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the next item is the home called for

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public hearing and home Consortium

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allocation plans this plan is here

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um so this request is in relation to

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your home park

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um our home Consortium which consists of

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the city of Schenectady and Troy and

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also the town of common room was

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allocated

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771 million dollars through the home art

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program and this is administered through

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HUD so it's separate from our

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um our other apartment allocations we've

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had to go through a pretty extensive

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planning process to come up with the

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allocation plan that we've included the

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summary of and the whole plan is located

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in the spaces that are noted

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um this allocation plan isn't funding to

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direct organizations it's just looking

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at the uses for the funding so the

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eligible activities that the funding can

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be used for so that includes affordable

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housing development uh non-congregate

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shelters Supportive Services and the

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tenant-based rentals assistance so those

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are the four different categories that

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we looked at how to break up the funding

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in terms of its uses once we submit this

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allocation plan to HUD we will then

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there will then be an RFP process for

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service providers and organizations to

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apply for that funding so we are looking

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to call for a public hearing that would

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be held on Tuesday December 27th at 7 pm

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during the regularly scheduled council

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meeting and this is just for purposes of

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hearing comments on

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the public comment period is open

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through January 6th

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all in favor

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the next item is

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regards to the arpa allocation and

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supportive here thank you so at our last

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committee meeting a couple weeks ago we

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had this on the agenda to ask for an

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update to see where we were with the art

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applications we heard from organizations

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who were expecting letters and when they

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were going to get their funding so

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um I know that there was some action

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taking place that has taken place so at

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this point in time I was wondering where

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we are with that in terms of the

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timeline in terms of the contracts and

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you know when people can kind of expect

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to see some movement on their

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applications on their Awards

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I indicated before I sent out the

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letters to roughly 20 groups for the

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background information

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there are some contingencies in those

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with the exception of the YW and safe

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Inc I think those contracts are this

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much ready to yeah I think the Mr Marty's been working in

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the law department on putting the

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contracts together

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obviously one of the the letters

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included I think Financial documentation

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another documentation that had to come

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in I believe that was going to go

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through the development department I

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don't know exactly where that stands in

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terms of receiving documentation from

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those organizations I anticipate that

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the contracts will go out before the end

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of the week this week you know once it's

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reviewed obviously by the development

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department

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obviously we spoke about the

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contingencies you know some of the

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contracts well excuse me some of the

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allocations required

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a match contingency be met before we

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enter into contracts so I believe when

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the letters were sent out from the

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mayor's office they included the

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resolutions so that those organizations

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would see what the council authorized or

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didn't authorize at that time so

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obviously there were allocations for all

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but not authorizing contracts just yet

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for many

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so the ones that didn't have

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contingencies are the ones that the

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contracts would be correct so I believe

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that's the YWCA I believe there was no

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contingency for

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um I mean I think the resolution came

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around at the beginning of the meeting

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today I believe there's no contingency

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for the Green Market I think there was

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work that may have already been done by

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clockers that the council authorized

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funding for so we'd have to check

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obviously one of the things we'd have to

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do on that end is verify that that work

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had been done then you know obviously if

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the work has already been done received

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receipts and see what worked actually

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you know what they said in order to

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reimburse them for that that funding

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and I believe there was some other I

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think as the mayor said safe Inc and I

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you know I don't want to be quoted

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um I believe there were at least uh two

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other organizations maybe not on this

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resolution from

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um from August 22nd but there was a

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resolution from September 12th uh where

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I think there was certain uh

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organizations that didn't have any

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contingencies

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thank you just yet if you have anything

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to add to that

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okay thank you and we'll just we'll keep

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bringing this forward so we can keep

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track and people can hear um where

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things are to light

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thank you

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that there were no continues and the

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other resolution though there I don't

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believe there were contingencies

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thank you yep thank you

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do you want us back because this was a

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hell door from last two weeks

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yes to bring it back in two weeks two

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weeks yes so we can just stay updated

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okay

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the next item is a

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little discussion regarding the Aquatic

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Center

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um

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allocation of our location and also to

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look at the fourth set of allocation

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that we did when the resolution was

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passed we discussed verbally at a table

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here in regards to our timeline but we

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never end up on the resolution

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so you want to discuss in terms of

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on the second set of allocation we had

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given them 12 ones but this Forest

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allocation there was no timeline so we

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just want to address it should we attach

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a timeline to the fourth set of

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allocation like what we have done for

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the second third of our location so I

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want to discuss is some very new to the

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table in terms of one set doesn't have a

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timeline the other step has a timeline

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I think that we should put a form

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timeline with regards to this allocation

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also I discussing Mr Colden I missed the

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uh they think that we should also if

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you're not mistaken

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certainly I'm sorry go ahead certainly

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it's up to the council in terms of what

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it would like to do in terms of you know

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setting the deadline when contingencies

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have to be met in the September 12th

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resolution for many of the organizations

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that had to meet financial goals they

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did not do it as Mr mood Barrett said in

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the August 22nd resolution so certainly

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it's completely up to the Council on how

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to handle that

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so I was thinking about since we passed

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this in August we should apply here 12

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months the same as we did for the second

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arm set

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so that would be for any of these that

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not just the acquired I know this says

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the Aquatic Center but it would be any

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of the ones

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um that we were looking at the Aquatic

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Center and I realized that all of them

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had a chance timeline

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I think for us to be consistent we

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should apply um a timeline in addition to that we

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have we are we have given we're given

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time on how we can spend this money so

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there's the allocation timeline there's

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a time time limit spent so if we leave

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it open-ended then you know that may put

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in a position that even though we

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allocate if they don't match it all

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they're matching and they're not there

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what do we do in that case so I would

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say that we would need to do that

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good ideas and um you know obviously the

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resolution that was passed out the first

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resolution of August about the 22nd all

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it was was and we discussed it obviously

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that at that meeting and you know I

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remember obviously asking exactly what

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you wanted to do as a council and it was

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just allocating the funds for that

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particular purpose but not authorizing

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the contract whereas the other

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resolution from September the council

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you know allocated the funds for the

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particular project and also authorizes

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the mayor but

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um to enter into those agreements but

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for those agreements where the

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organization had to have or had to meet

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a contingency before they could enter

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into the contract they had to meet that

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contingency right so this these would

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still have to come back to the council

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because there hasn't been any

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authorization to have the mayor enter

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into these contracts

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if they have to raise other money there

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still needs to be some timeline in place

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for them to to do that because if they

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don't then we've left it open and

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conceivably could be to the end of the

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time that we have to spend money which

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won't work so we have to figure out some

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type of timeline

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um in order I I believe in order to do

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that

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okay

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it actually um

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12 months

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on the second set of application so I'm

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thinking about we do the same for this

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one here do an amendment to include the

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timeline be 12 months from when we

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passed it

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I'm just suggesting that

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Mr Colton is saying that they we haven't

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entered the timelines were given to

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those that were a contract was assigned

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with and this doesn't have one is that

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what I had indicated was the resolutions

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are obviously different in that this one it's only you know you're you

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allocated funds for a particular

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projects the other one from September

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you both allocated and authorized the

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mayor but set those contingencies for

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those contracts where you know they had

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to raise additional funding those

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organizations had to raise additional

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funding certainly the council can put a

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one-year contingency and you know for

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these allocations so that you can let

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those organizations know that this isn't

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you know you're not you're not going to

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go a year and a half down the road

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you're not going to go two and a half

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years down the road we're gonna be you

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know the city council can certainly say

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we're going to hold this allocation here

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for a year and in that year you have to

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come back and and show us that you have

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the funding in place to move ahead with

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the project

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that's certainly the prerogative that

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can be the prerogative of the council

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and that's what I'm leaning towards

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because if it's one set is treated

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differently from the second set it's not

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fair

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well I agree with that um I think that

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we

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probably need to have uh you know a

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spreadsheet or something that actually

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showed

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um all of the allocations all of the

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decisions that we made

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um and and you know it will say this one

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had this uh contingency this one had

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that consider you see this one had no

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contingency unless everybody has a

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complete memory of every single

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uh project and what we said about each

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of the various projects

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I would suggest that we need to see that

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but I think I I support making the

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timeline

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consistent across all of the projects

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that we agreed on now would we have to

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go back and re-vote on on these since we

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didn't do that

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I'm not following you the first

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resolution the one that was from August

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since we didn't put that language

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you don't have to you don't you would

362
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have to vote if you're going to be

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resolving to put a contingency and that

364
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doesn't currently exist within the

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resolution okay yes so the Resolute the

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second resolution was one year that took

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you if you want to be consistent that

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took you to September 12th if you wanted

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23.

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any thoughts how we move forward

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well miss Patrick is asking for um for

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it well no I mean that a spreadsheet

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just to be clear on what what we're

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asking

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I'm okay saying that we want to just

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stretch it we want to make sure that all

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of the allocations are consistent with

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one another I'm just saying that it's

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there's several that had these kinds of

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contingencies around the money and

381
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that's not

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it's not clear it's not in here I mean I can go back to all of my notes and

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kind of scratch it out one by one but

384
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just wanted to make that clear that it

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wasn't just the Aquatic Center oh no

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there's never several hours we're

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thinking about um the reason why because

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we have mentioned verbally here that

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we're going to give the Aquatic Center

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21st of December

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this year oh I was looking to bring it

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to the table to give them an extension

393
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but then realize that speaking to us

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holding on them

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so that's why I brought it up for him

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for the sake of clarification if I may

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so the council did authorize the

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contracts for this resolution for Green

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Market for

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safe Incorporated for

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um

402
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the city center for the little league

403
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and for the hearing aid Community

404
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Foundation which means

405
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they did authorize well we know the city

406
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projects we would have to put that up to

407
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Ben in any of them

408
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but Miracle on frag had a contingency

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had to meet funding requirements Capital

410
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Region Aquatic Center needed to meet

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funding requirements the Schenectady

412
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Foundation sitcom and city of

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Schenectady needed to meet funding

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considerations or contingencies rather

415
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so that would cover

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you know for the purpose of this

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resolution those organizations that had

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funding contingencies

419
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there's like four of them what companies

420
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second page correct everything on that

421
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back page but for the city of

422
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Schenectady Foundation yeah

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go ahead uh I just want to also point

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out that that one with um I I don't

425
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remember the financial contingency on

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the Schenectady Foundation sitcom SUNY

427
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Schenectady but that also does include

428
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concern for the hungry so I just wanted

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to clarify that

430
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um because that was part of that package

431
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also it's in the third column if you

432
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look in the language of the third column

433
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it said it includes concern for the

434
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hunters so I just wanted to make sure

435
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that that was

436
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they would be getting their contract as

437
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well but I don't remember what the

438
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financial contingency was there the

439
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[Music]

440
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um

441
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,159
though the first the contract hasn't

442
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even been authorized by the city council

443
00:28:04,020 --> 00:28:06,659
so you still have to come back right it

444
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was only the allocation for a particular

445
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purpose so the council hasn't authorized

446
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a contract yet with any of those

447
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organizations right right

448
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and certainly I'd have to go back I

449
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don't have the documents related to

450
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you know the financial

451
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:25,400
contingencies for that project

452
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that would be something that would have

453
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:29,340
been in the packets

454
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um you know I think when the council is

455
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considering everything to begin with

456
00:28:32,100 --> 00:28:36,610
nice okay

457
00:28:36,620 --> 00:28:39,960
so I'm suggesting we go ahead and um to

458
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get the document that Miss Patrick's

459
00:28:41,820 --> 00:28:43,500
asking for and also for those if we

460
00:28:43,500 --> 00:28:44,940
haven't authorized a contract and I

461
00:28:44,940 --> 00:28:45,900
don't and I have to agree with Miss

462
00:28:45,900 --> 00:28:47,820
Patrick I don't remember us there being

463
00:28:47,820 --> 00:28:49,620
a contingency for the uh for the food

464
00:28:49,620 --> 00:28:52,380
access and all the different agencies so

465
00:28:52,380 --> 00:28:53,580
if we could just have that information

466
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I'm Sorry Miss Patrick Miss Dia yeah

467
00:29:01,380 --> 00:29:03,779
I I think for that one it was more of a

468
00:29:03,779 --> 00:29:05,340
question of how the funding was going to

469
00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:07,559
be distributed because the request was

470
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more than what the million dollars or I

471
00:29:09,960 --> 00:29:11,340
think that was allocated was so I think

472
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that's all that was was just make sure

473
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everybody was on the same page about how

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the funding was going to get broken up

475
00:29:17,039 --> 00:29:21,010
okay

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00:29:21,020 --> 00:29:23,340
yeah that makes sense because it was

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00:29:23,340 --> 00:29:26,640
presented to us as a bulk number when in

478
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fact there were four different agencies

479
00:29:28,700 --> 00:29:32,100
uh organizations I should say asking for

480
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,260
four different amounts of money so that

481
00:29:34,260 --> 00:29:36,360
you're you're I absolutely remember now

482
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,100
because it was six hundred dollars for

483
00:29:38,100 --> 00:29:41,159
Schenectady Foundation it was X for the

484
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others X you know y z

485
00:29:43,860 --> 00:29:46,380
um and how would that have played out we

486
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did not discuss so

487
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and I think led to some confusion on the

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agency's parts as well I got some calls

489
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about that afterwards

490
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so thank you how can we move forward in

491
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terms of an amendment or a resolution so

492
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it's a 12 months starting from

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August 22nd you want to go 12 months or

494
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just from my clarification this is up to

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the council obviously

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going from the date of this resolution

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or being consistent with the second

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resolution and giving them until

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September 12 2023 right so I think

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that's one question that I would have

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and then I would suggest that you know

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it's not necessarily

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creating a new it's not necessarily A

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mending resolution it's referring back

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to this old resolution whereas the city

506
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council passed this previous resolution

507
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I can refer to this and um

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say related to that resolution that city

509
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council is going to create if you're

510
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going to do this a deadline in which the

511
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contingencies have to be met and what

512
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those contingencies are

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there any objection we're in terms of

514
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instead of August September

515
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I'm going to September to be consistent

516
00:31:05,039 --> 00:31:07,020
I'm fine with it because we we actually

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haven't done anything and no one's got

518
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:10,080
anything yet so we're eating into the

519
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:16,690
time already so fine with that all right

520
00:31:16,700 --> 00:31:20,149
oh no

521
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:24,240
all right so I will need a motion to um

522
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do we know what those contingencies are

523
00:31:26,100 --> 00:31:27,380
you know okay

524
00:31:27,380 --> 00:31:30,179
I think we should I think we should get

525
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the contingency

526
00:31:33,260 --> 00:31:35,820
get the stuff more in more detail

527
00:31:35,820 --> 00:31:37,980
because it was more than one item that

528
00:31:37,980 --> 00:31:41,169
we wanted

529
00:31:41,179 --> 00:31:44,480
yeah you can't vote on this yeah

530
00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:47,460
okay so let's um follow up with the

531
00:31:47,460 --> 00:31:49,740
detail of all the contingency items for

532
00:31:49,740 --> 00:31:51,600
Forest allocations like an allocation

533
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,899
and then we both zoom in the timeline

534
00:31:54,899 --> 00:31:57,480
for the course so we can do that in two

535
00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,720
weeks time okay yeah

536
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,220
all right

537
00:32:02,220 --> 00:32:05,700
any other item before Finance

538
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,880
motion to adjourn second all in favor uh

539
00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:11,100
thank you I'd like to call to order City

540
00:32:11,100 --> 00:32:13,200
development and planning and I am going

541
00:32:13,200 --> 00:32:14,940
to not move the agenda around a little

542
00:32:14,940 --> 00:32:18,179
bit um so we're going to ask for item

543
00:32:18,179 --> 00:32:21,419
number five to come first discussion

544
00:32:21,419 --> 00:32:23,100
recommendation from the Planning

545
00:32:23,100 --> 00:32:24,840
Commission Iraq regarding 308 State

546
00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,679
Street so Ms kitchen would you like to

547
00:32:27,679 --> 00:32:30,360
join us here sure

548
00:32:30,360 --> 00:32:32,159
um do I have to stand there yes you have

549
00:32:32,159 --> 00:32:33,250
to stand here

550
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[Music]

551
00:32:35,159 --> 00:32:36,960
um excuse me Mr Brown do you want to do

552
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:38,460
that or you can come and do it it's up

553
00:32:38,460 --> 00:32:50,470
to you

554
00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:53,039
thank you

555
00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:57,240
good evening my name is Gloria I am the

556
00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,039
chairperson of Schenectady Heritage

557
00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:02,159
Foundation which is a an advocacy group

558
00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:05,220
for historic preservation in Schenectady

559
00:33:05,220 --> 00:33:08,399
County so we appreciate the opportunity

560
00:33:08,399 --> 00:33:12,720
to make this presentation to the city

561
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:17,640
government in order to uh

562
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,179
try to get overnight to start Zoning for

563
00:33:21,179 --> 00:33:24,980
the group of parcels that are now

564
00:33:24,980 --> 00:33:28,380
gathered under the address of 308 State

565
00:33:28,380 --> 00:33:31,140
Street originally of course they each

566
00:33:31,140 --> 00:33:33,600
have separate addresses but

567
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:37,320
the current owner has Consolidated them

568
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,720
into one parcel known as three out of

569
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,179
eight so just want to clarify that that

570
00:33:42,179 --> 00:33:44,279
when we're saying 308 we're really

571
00:33:44,279 --> 00:33:47,820
talking about four different buildings

572
00:33:47,820 --> 00:33:51,470
um

573
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:53,399
so I guess we can go to our next slide

574
00:33:53,399 --> 00:33:56,100
this is a very short PowerPoint just to

575
00:33:56,100 --> 00:33:58,220
explain our Viewpoint

576
00:33:58,220 --> 00:34:01,140
we're going to talk about what overlay

577
00:34:01,140 --> 00:34:04,970
historic zoning is and

578
00:34:04,980 --> 00:34:08,060
uh what is it why are we doing this now

579
00:34:08,060 --> 00:34:13,020
what is the criteria for such domain and

580
00:34:13,020 --> 00:34:16,260
why are we interested in

581
00:34:16,260 --> 00:34:19,760
having this selling for 308 State Street

582
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,339
and then just to review a group of our

583
00:34:23,339 --> 00:34:27,300
supporters that are with us in seeking

584
00:34:27,300 --> 00:34:31,070
this semining change

585
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,679
now over the zoning historic overlay

586
00:34:34,679 --> 00:34:36,780
historic zoning

587
00:34:36,780 --> 00:34:39,480
um the only thing it really does is to

588
00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:40,520
add

589
00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,240
schenectady's historic district

590
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:44,760
commission as a

591
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:48,599
public entity that will overstay any

592
00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,419
changes or

593
00:34:50,419 --> 00:34:53,879
to the exterior of a property that

594
00:34:53,879 --> 00:34:56,760
houses so we have there's no different

595
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:59,359
than on

596
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:02,640
it's actually no different than any

597
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:04,680
other historic district or landmark

598
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:07,580
building in the city

599
00:35:07,580 --> 00:35:11,280
it does not change any of the uses that

600
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:13,099
are allowed by the law

601
00:35:13,099 --> 00:35:16,859
under this under the current zoning and

602
00:35:16,859 --> 00:35:18,960
it doesn't restrict what you can do with

603
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:22,079
your property at all as you can see just

604
00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:24,900
three of these examples that I picked

605
00:35:24,900 --> 00:35:25,700
out

606
00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:28,440
in the staff cases District we have

607
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,119
Arthur's Market

608
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,280
and then the Union Street Corridor

609
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,040
historic district we have

610
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:37,740
an office building I believe the address

611
00:35:37,740 --> 00:35:42,720
is 508 and the restaurant chenu which

612
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,160
has also been used for different

613
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,520
purposes over the years and

614
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:49,200
um as a matter of fact one of our

615
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,500
council members has her business in on

616
00:35:52,500 --> 00:35:55,500
in the United States Corridor which has

617
00:35:55,500 --> 00:35:58,619
the same overlay assembly so there's no

618
00:35:58,619 --> 00:36:00,960
restriction at all about what you can do

619
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:03,359
it's just that you need or reside from

620
00:36:03,359 --> 00:36:06,119
our historic district Commission

621
00:36:06,119 --> 00:36:09,420
now you might ask why this is the timing

622
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:12,540
right for overlay and stirred Zoning for

623
00:36:12,540 --> 00:36:14,880
these buildings well

624
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,480
um The Heritage Foundation feels like

625
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,760
Schenectady is really at a turning point

626
00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:21,900
now

627
00:36:21,900 --> 00:36:25,020
with its zoning and development and

628
00:36:25,020 --> 00:36:28,740
rebuilding revitalization of downtown we

629
00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:30,680
really support

630
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:37,740
building on the success of Metroplex has been around for 20 years

631
00:36:37,740 --> 00:36:39,900
now give or take

632
00:36:39,900 --> 00:36:43,320
and we think they've done a fabulous job

633
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,839
we don't always agree with everything

634
00:36:45,839 --> 00:36:48,300
that's happened we've lost

635
00:36:48,300 --> 00:36:51,660
some of our very nice architecture

636
00:36:51,660 --> 00:36:54,320
downtown as we all know

637
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,060
but generally speaking we think we're at

638
00:36:57,060 --> 00:36:59,520
a point now where

639
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:03,720
um we want to move away from the 1960s

640
00:37:03,720 --> 00:37:07,079
version of urban renewal where it's

641
00:37:07,079 --> 00:37:09,180
really almost like a scorched Earth a

642
00:37:09,180 --> 00:37:11,180
type of policy where

643
00:37:11,180 --> 00:37:15,839
if a developer was interested in doing a

644
00:37:15,839 --> 00:37:18,599
project in your town you were so

645
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:20,760
desperate you had to accept anything

646
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,640
that they said well we think that we're

647
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,880
far beyond that point in Schenectady we

648
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,260
have

649
00:37:28,260 --> 00:37:30,599
really good examples of our historic

650
00:37:30,599 --> 00:37:31,640
district

651
00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:34,800
our historic architecture that have been

652
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:38,460
retained and repurposed for a variety of

653
00:37:38,460 --> 00:37:42,480
abuses and you want that as a matter of

654
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:47,220
fact in our comprehensive plan from 2020

655
00:37:47,220 --> 00:37:51,240
is specifically stated that we want to

656
00:37:51,240 --> 00:37:54,900
use overly Disturbed zoning in order to

657
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:58,079
protect the best of our historic

658
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:02,119
architecture and when we have this

659
00:38:02,119 --> 00:38:05,040
appreciation for not only our history

660
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:09,480
but our research built an environment we

661
00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:12,060
get a diversity of buildings which

662
00:38:12,060 --> 00:38:15,240
attracts A diversity of businesses and

663
00:38:15,240 --> 00:38:18,720
of residents and we feel very strongly

664
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,839
that that's what what creates a thriving

665
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:25,320
city which is worse it's going to have

666
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:31,500
to do is moving towards now here's the criteria for overlay

667
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:34,079
historic Zone you all got a packet from

668
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:36,300
us I don't think I need to read all of

669
00:38:36,300 --> 00:38:39,540
this here but it's basically

670
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:43,740
um that if a historic building has these

671
00:38:43,740 --> 00:38:46,680
qualities as identified with historian

672
00:38:46,680 --> 00:38:49,320
people or events Etc

673
00:38:49,320 --> 00:38:55,020
um these are the uh this is the criteria

674
00:38:55,020 --> 00:38:57,780
where we make a decision you know this

675
00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:00,599
is what we use we don't use oh can we

676
00:39:00,599 --> 00:39:04,740
afford X Y and Z we don't use uh all

677
00:39:04,740 --> 00:39:07,260
these other things that doesn't match

678
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:08,820
such and such

679
00:39:08,820 --> 00:39:14,690
we are focused on on these criteria

680
00:39:14,700 --> 00:39:17,700
you're doing a great job

681
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:20,880
of course the the uh

682
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:23,520
the most important building in this

683
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,339
stretch of State Street

684
00:39:26,339 --> 00:39:29,220
is the Masonic temple the former Masonic

685
00:39:29,220 --> 00:39:32,099
temple and this is an old postcard which

686
00:39:32,099 --> 00:39:33,420
really

687
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:36,480
shows up probably around

688
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:37,700
um

689
00:39:37,700 --> 00:39:40,440
1920 or so

690
00:39:40,440 --> 00:39:41,160
um

691
00:39:41,160 --> 00:39:43,740
and it definitely does possess

692
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:46,740
special character or historic or

693
00:39:46,740 --> 00:39:49,800
aesthetic interests or value as part of

694
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,680
our cultural political economic or

695
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:56,339
social history of our locality region

696
00:39:56,339 --> 00:40:00,660
State and the coordination

697
00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:01,320
um

698
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:05,040
the Masonic temple was

699
00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:08,940
built by the Brown family actually but

700
00:40:08,940 --> 00:40:12,359
the Masons took it over about a decade

701
00:40:12,359 --> 00:40:15,900
after it was built and as we go on to

702
00:40:15,900 --> 00:40:19,560
our next slide we'll see the the mesos

703
00:40:19,560 --> 00:40:21,960
were incredibly important in

704
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,599
schenectady's history if you look over

705
00:40:24,599 --> 00:40:26,780
on on our

706
00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:30,000
portraiture of Mayors in this corner of

707
00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:30,720
this

708
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,280
a room

709
00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:35,040
two-thirds of those men

710
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:37,920
and of course Karen Johnson would not be

711
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,320
able to join Mason she would have been

712
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,660
on the Eastern start but two-thirds of

713
00:40:42,660 --> 00:40:44,940
them were Masons and and many of them

714
00:40:44,940 --> 00:40:47,520
actually were Grand Masters

715
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,579
um the Masons started in Schenectady

716
00:40:50,579 --> 00:40:55,440
before the Revolutionary War and also in

717
00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:57,119
their pack that there are many examples

718
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:01,320
of some of the artifacts that this group

719
00:41:01,320 --> 00:41:04,740
of men still still has and they have a

720
00:41:04,740 --> 00:41:07,020
wonderful archive called historic

721
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:08,420
documents

722
00:41:08,420 --> 00:41:12,000
but to get back to their Beginnings in

723
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:13,500
the Schenectady George Washington

724
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:17,040
actually visited them several times and

725
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:19,440
slept in The Stockade in a building

726
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,680
there and uh he was he himself was a

727
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,900
grand master in Virginia

728
00:41:24,900 --> 00:41:29,160
but our Masons here actually grew the

729
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:32,460
food that kept Washington's troops alive

730
00:41:32,460 --> 00:41:34,740
during the

731
00:41:34,740 --> 00:41:38,640
war in Valley Forge

732
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,579
now the temple that we're seeing now was

733
00:41:41,579 --> 00:41:43,800
built by the Brown family and they had

734
00:41:43,800 --> 00:41:45,800
their furniture store there

735
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:49,220
in the early part of the 1900s

736
00:41:49,220 --> 00:41:52,260
and one of Mr Brown's daughters Helen

737
00:41:52,260 --> 00:41:55,440
brown created Brown School which

738
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:59,040
actually is still obviously in a school

739
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:01,430
today

740
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:04,560
one of her very important people in

741
00:42:04,560 --> 00:42:06,839
Schenectady Joseph Yates

742
00:42:06,839 --> 00:42:09,300
who was our first mayor and I'm sure his

743
00:42:09,300 --> 00:42:12,000
portrait is up there but he was the

744
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,619
eighth governor of New York State the

745
00:42:13,619 --> 00:42:16,560
supreme court of justice and he was a

746
00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:19,380
master at our particular the seven

747
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:20,700
o'clock

748
00:42:20,700 --> 00:42:23,339
and as I said before most of our Mayors

749
00:42:23,339 --> 00:42:26,099
have been Commission

750
00:42:26,099 --> 00:42:31,220
so the the current temple on also of

751
00:42:31,220 --> 00:42:34,460
Mississippi criteria for

752
00:42:34,460 --> 00:42:37,859
architecture okay

753
00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:39,680
it is

754
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,480
we're going too fast now sorry yeah

755
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,240
thank you little bodies and

756
00:42:45,240 --> 00:42:47,940
distinguishing characteristics of both

757
00:42:47,940 --> 00:42:50,160
neoclassical and Italian Renaissance

758
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:53,460
Revival architectural Styles which um

759
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:55,560
people have questions about it you can

760
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:58,619
ask me later but it's uh these are just

761
00:42:58,619 --> 00:43:01,800
some of the details and an overall view

762
00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:05,450
of the building

763
00:43:05,460 --> 00:43:08,160
Southern Masonic temple is also an

764
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,859
example of the work of a designer whose

765
00:43:10,859 --> 00:43:11,900
work

766
00:43:11,900 --> 00:43:15,380
significantly influenced an age and era

767
00:43:15,380 --> 00:43:19,280
it was designed by William Neal Smith

768
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:23,339
that little plaque is from the larger

769
00:43:23,339 --> 00:43:25,619
plaque that the Masons actually took off

770
00:43:25,619 --> 00:43:28,859
of the building when they sold them and

771
00:43:28,859 --> 00:43:29,760
um

772
00:43:29,760 --> 00:43:33,300
he was a contemporary of The Architects

773
00:43:33,300 --> 00:43:35,099
that built this building

774
00:43:35,099 --> 00:43:38,520
and also many buildings in lower

775
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:40,819
Manhattan and

776
00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:43,680
a lot of them are in this historic

777
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:44,940
district called The Stone Street

778
00:43:44,940 --> 00:43:47,220
historic district but he was quite

779
00:43:47,220 --> 00:43:49,200
influential and

780
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:49,800
um

781
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:53,040
both in New York City and in Upstate New

782
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:56,940
York Little Falls City Hall right here

783
00:43:56,940 --> 00:44:02,510
is another example of this building

784
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,060
oh this is a panoramic view of the

785
00:44:06,060 --> 00:44:07,980
intersection of State Street and Erie

786
00:44:07,980 --> 00:44:09,119
Boulevard

787
00:44:09,119 --> 00:44:12,680
and you can see that it really does

788
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,440
occupy the unique location and it's very

789
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:20,339
imposing in this intersection on

790
00:44:20,339 --> 00:44:22,880
imagine it without that building there

791
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:27,960
but if you have overly disturbs only at

792
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:31,140
least it offers some protection to the

793
00:44:31,140 --> 00:44:33,119
best of our historic buildings it's

794
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:35,579
become it's obviously a very familiar

795
00:44:35,579 --> 00:44:38,339
visual feature in this area this

796
00:44:38,339 --> 00:44:41,270
neighborhood

797
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,200
now just moving on to the other

798
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,200
buildings in the streetscape between

799
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:50,240
Erie Boulevard and the railroad overpass

800
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:54,300
again it's the first four buildings this

801
00:44:54,300 --> 00:44:56,640
building here was

802
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,200
um on the left

803
00:44:58,200 --> 00:45:00,359
most recently the Chamber of Commerce

804
00:45:00,359 --> 00:45:01,260
building

805
00:45:01,260 --> 00:45:04,619
and when I did research on these

806
00:45:04,619 --> 00:45:05,780
buildings

807
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:09,660
they all were built in approximately the

808
00:45:09,660 --> 00:45:12,260
mid part of the 1800s

809
00:45:12,260 --> 00:45:15,420
there's very little changed over all

810
00:45:15,420 --> 00:45:17,400
those centuries it was just really

811
00:45:17,400 --> 00:45:18,440
amazing

812
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:21,540
and this building has a direct

813
00:45:21,540 --> 00:45:23,520
association with our first bank the

814
00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,980
Mohawk bank which started in The

815
00:45:25,980 --> 00:45:28,440
Stockade in 1807.

816
00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:30,960
and in 1820 it moved to the star Cave

817
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:31,740
Inn

818
00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:33,720
a person wasn't the second in them

819
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:36,359
because they were doing so well

820
00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:40,200
and by 1907 the bank became a national

821
00:45:40,200 --> 00:45:42,839
bank and they moved to State Street but

822
00:45:42,839 --> 00:45:45,960
in a block lower than where they ended

823
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:48,859
up and after several mergers and

824
00:45:48,859 --> 00:45:52,020
Acquisitions they ended up in the

825
00:45:52,020 --> 00:45:53,520
Chamber of Commerce building

826
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:57,000
and uh in the bottom right you can see

827
00:45:57,000 --> 00:46:00,970
one of the early checks

828
00:46:00,980 --> 00:46:04,800
so they were witnessed to almost all of

829
00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:06,960
the major events in Schenectady over the

830
00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:08,700
centuries you know dealing with

831
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:12,420
financing the earth now to financing

832
00:46:12,420 --> 00:46:15,180
some of our some of our buildings that

833
00:46:15,180 --> 00:46:18,349
we're trying to say it now

834
00:46:18,359 --> 00:46:22,680
and the next buildings were Consolidated

835
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:24,540
into rednecks clothing store I think

836
00:46:24,540 --> 00:46:27,079
most people are familiar with that

837
00:46:27,079 --> 00:46:31,079
before that they they really housed a

838
00:46:31,079 --> 00:46:34,079
great variety of small businesses in

839
00:46:34,079 --> 00:46:36,599
Schenectady which of course is a great

840
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:39,359
business model we really are trying to

841
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:41,400
do that now so we're not a one company

842
00:46:41,400 --> 00:46:44,400
Town anymore and I think we all know how

843
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:45,680
that turned out

844
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:49,500
but redness itself was established in

845
00:46:49,500 --> 00:46:52,619
1941 it's almost 70 of course years ago

846
00:46:52,619 --> 00:46:55,859
and over those years they were the go-to

847
00:46:55,859 --> 00:46:59,520
place to close all of our industrial

848
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:02,400
workers that were here helping to build

849
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,579
Schenectady and to what it is today just

850
00:47:05,579 --> 00:47:08,720
masses of mostly men

851
00:47:08,720 --> 00:47:11,160
went to these stores to get their

852
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:14,240
uniforms you know their their workflows

853
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:18,490
my dad included

854
00:47:18,500 --> 00:47:21,119
Schenectady and if you look in the upper

855
00:47:21,119 --> 00:47:24,060
left corner photo you can see that the

856
00:47:24,060 --> 00:47:26,880
buildings are very little changed from

857
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,420
those days even

858
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:32,700
before those days uh the big difference

859
00:47:32,700 --> 00:47:34,800
is of course when the college building

860
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,619
is gone

861
00:47:36,619 --> 00:47:39,900
and the Trustco Bank has taken over more

862
00:47:39,900 --> 00:47:44,030
buildings

863
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,980
so our supporters so far

864
00:47:46,980 --> 00:47:47,700
um

865
00:47:47,700 --> 00:47:50,099
both the historic district Commission of

866
00:47:50,099 --> 00:47:52,040
Schenectady and the Planning Commission

867
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:57,000
support this zoning change unanimously I

868
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:58,560
don't know if I was ever at a meeting

869
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,560
where those groups unanimously passed

870
00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:04,980
and what they did with this and in the

871
00:48:04,980 --> 00:48:06,839
community we have the support of both

872
00:48:06,839 --> 00:48:09,480
the city and the county historians the

873
00:48:09,480 --> 00:48:12,119
preservation League of New York State

874
00:48:12,119 --> 00:48:14,720
Schenectady County Historical Society

875
00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:18,300
Wisconsin Association and the GE Realty

876
00:48:18,300 --> 00:48:19,760
Club association

877
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,460
and importantly the Past Masters of

878
00:48:23,460 --> 00:48:26,700
Saint George's Masonic lodge number six

879
00:48:26,700 --> 00:48:29,839
which began

880
00:48:29,839 --> 00:48:32,760
actually couldn't begin here they began

881
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,420
much earlier than that but ended up in

882
00:48:36,420 --> 00:48:38,700
Schenectady like that building and

883
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:41,099
several architects in many individuals

884
00:48:41,099 --> 00:48:44,990
so far

885
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:50,160
so just to rehash why we're looking to

886
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,740
get this protective Zoning for this

887
00:48:52,740 --> 00:48:55,560
group of buildings

888
00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:58,020
um we want to preserve our historic

889
00:48:58,020 --> 00:49:00,839
resources and follow our comprehensive

890
00:49:00,839 --> 00:49:04,319
plan you can see right here it says I

891
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:05,520
don't know if you can read it in action

892
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:08,520
2. provide historic district overlay

893
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:11,520
protection so many for important

894
00:49:11,520 --> 00:49:13,859
buildings this is part of the historic

895
00:49:13,859 --> 00:49:15,260
preservation

896
00:49:15,260 --> 00:49:19,920
section in our 2020 comprehensive plan

897
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:24,060
so this is what the community has agreed

898
00:49:24,060 --> 00:49:26,400
they want to Schenectady to be doing

899
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:28,940
this we also want to build on

900
00:49:28,940 --> 00:49:32,940
metroplex's success and we want to have

901
00:49:32,940 --> 00:49:35,040
that to support a vibrant and diverse

902
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,359
downtown

903
00:49:36,359 --> 00:49:38,880
so you can see in this this is a very

904
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:41,940
old photograph and you can see the

905
00:49:41,940 --> 00:49:44,339
redness buildings they haven't changed

906
00:49:44,339 --> 00:49:48,119
very much this is prior to the Mason's

907
00:49:48,119 --> 00:49:50,900
building their new building here

908
00:49:50,900 --> 00:49:53,040
because that is the brown furniture

909
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,619
company so we know that this photo is

910
00:49:55,619 --> 00:49:59,040
from around the turn of the last century

911
00:49:59,040 --> 00:50:01,740
but here we have redness with the bay

912
00:50:01,740 --> 00:50:04,619
window the chamber building we're

913
00:50:04,619 --> 00:50:07,020
essentially the same which is

914
00:50:07,020 --> 00:50:09,300
pretty impressive after all these years

915
00:50:09,300 --> 00:50:11,339
it shows that these buildings are very

916
00:50:11,339 --> 00:50:13,980
adaptable and they've become sort of an

917
00:50:13,980 --> 00:50:17,520
iconic Corner in our community so I'm

918
00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:19,859
happy to answer any questions if anybody

919
00:50:19,859 --> 00:50:23,270
has them

920
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,859
any questions

921
00:50:25,859 --> 00:50:27,599
so

922
00:50:27,599 --> 00:50:28,980
um what do you have your packet all the

923
00:50:28,980 --> 00:50:31,020
way thank you very much all the

924
00:50:31,020 --> 00:50:32,400
information that Miss kittson has gone

925
00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:34,440
over and also a letter from the Planning

926
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:37,500
Commission asking the city council to um

927
00:50:37,500 --> 00:50:39,480
recommend it to the city council to

928
00:50:39,480 --> 00:50:41,760
amend the overlay uh historic district

929
00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:46,490
to include 308 State Street

930
00:50:46,500 --> 00:50:49,260
any questions regarding that

931
00:50:49,260 --> 00:50:50,059
um

932
00:50:50,059 --> 00:50:54,800
all those in favor yes

933
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,839
kind of getting ahead of where you at

934
00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:00,900
yeah because it's going to involve oh

935
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:02,520
the public account Seeker that's right

936
00:51:02,520 --> 00:51:05,280
uh that's right just designating the

937
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:08,339
city council's lead agency going through

938
00:51:08,339 --> 00:51:11,650
the secret process

939
00:51:11,660 --> 00:51:13,859
through this 30-day public comment

940
00:51:13,859 --> 00:51:15,480
period correct

941
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:18,599
um and then also a call for public

942
00:51:18,599 --> 00:51:20,940
hearing at some point to change the code

943
00:51:20,940 --> 00:51:23,819
yes if I'm missing anything uh call for

944
00:51:23,819 --> 00:51:27,559
a couple caring seeker and

945
00:51:27,559 --> 00:51:30,960
all right so and it's a question of it's

946
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:32,940
not although it's not required you have

947
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:34,260
to do a public hearing to change the

948
00:51:34,260 --> 00:51:35,280
code

949
00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:37,500
um you can do a public hearing for the

950
00:51:37,500 --> 00:51:39,720
secret process you at least have to do a

951
00:51:39,720 --> 00:51:42,720
30-day public comment period

952
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:45,960
um as part of Seeker okay so it's going

953
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,059
to be the lead age that I would do it

954
00:51:48,059 --> 00:51:51,900
everything separately lead agency

955
00:51:51,900 --> 00:51:53,220
um opening and opening up the secret

956
00:51:53,220 --> 00:51:54,660
we've done in the past you've done that

957
00:51:54,660 --> 00:51:55,980
together

958
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:58,020
um and then the 30-day public comment

959
00:51:58,020 --> 00:51:59,579
period and then a call for a public

960
00:51:59,579 --> 00:52:02,470
hearing

961
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:04,619
so we need a motion for all three of

962
00:52:04,619 --> 00:52:07,740
those I would do um one motion for lead

963
00:52:07,740 --> 00:52:09,660
agency and opening up the secret process

964
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:12,180
of the 30-day comment period and then

965
00:52:12,180 --> 00:52:13,559
separately

966
00:52:13,559 --> 00:52:16,319
um you'd want a resolution to uh do a

967
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:17,940
call for a public hearing

968
00:52:17,940 --> 00:52:20,460
um for the zone changes and you're

969
00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:22,680
inclined also as part of the Seeker to

970
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:25,319
do a public hearing you can certainly do

971
00:52:25,319 --> 00:52:28,609
that as well

972
00:52:28,619 --> 00:52:31,920
okay so the first one is um I would need

973
00:52:31,920 --> 00:52:34,079
a motion to

974
00:52:34,079 --> 00:52:35,819
um name the cities of the agency and to

975
00:52:35,819 --> 00:52:37,980
do a Seeker for the city council to be

976
00:52:37,980 --> 00:52:41,460
the lead agency and open up the 30-day

977
00:52:41,460 --> 00:52:43,079
public comment period for the Seeker

978
00:52:43,079 --> 00:52:46,880
okay so moved second all's in favor

979
00:52:46,880 --> 00:52:49,559
um this next is to do a motion for the

980
00:52:49,559 --> 00:52:52,260
call for public hearing for the zoning

981
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:54,300
correct does that have to be the way are

982
00:52:54,300 --> 00:52:55,700
you planning is

983
00:52:55,700 --> 00:52:58,920
the change to the code are you delaying

984
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:01,020
that until after the secret period

985
00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:04,079
yeah so that's they're not going to do

986
00:53:04,079 --> 00:53:05,460
that

987
00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:06,900
sorry I just want to make sure that we

988
00:53:06,900 --> 00:53:09,359
have the order correct on this

989
00:53:09,359 --> 00:53:10,020
um

990
00:53:10,020 --> 00:53:12,780
I don't think yeah I think you have to do the secret

991
00:53:12,780 --> 00:53:15,780
period first and then so that will come

992
00:53:15,780 --> 00:53:20,000
back to the council for the uh

993
00:53:20,000 --> 00:53:23,220
Mr Marnie do you want to adjust this

994
00:53:23,220 --> 00:53:26,040
um sure they could run can you can you

995
00:53:26,040 --> 00:53:30,170
please sorry

996
00:53:30,180 --> 00:53:32,660
um I do believe they could run together

997
00:53:32,660 --> 00:53:35,579
uh if the council is inclined they could

998
00:53:35,579 --> 00:53:37,319
run the public hearing

999
00:53:37,319 --> 00:53:38,579
um this would just be a public hearing

1000
00:53:38,579 --> 00:53:40,339
for purposes of

1001
00:53:40,339 --> 00:53:44,220
giving more public comment uh on the uh

1002
00:53:44,220 --> 00:53:47,180
on the zoning change

1003
00:53:47,180 --> 00:53:51,260
so we're looking at Seeker would be

1004
00:53:51,260 --> 00:53:54,540
Monday right we'd open up the public

1005
00:53:54,540 --> 00:53:56,460
comment period events Monday that would

1006
00:53:56,460 --> 00:53:58,800
be a 30-day period you could do the

1007
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,420
hearing at the conclusion of that or you

1008
00:54:00,420 --> 00:54:02,160
could run it simultaneously

1009
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:04,920
I think the question was the actual code

1010
00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:06,900
change really overlay that would happen

1011
00:54:06,900 --> 00:54:09,059
after that resolution would have been

1012
00:54:09,059 --> 00:54:11,099
correct that would happen after okay

1013
00:54:11,099 --> 00:54:13,440
after the Seeker or republican period

1014
00:54:13,440 --> 00:54:16,559
has been closed okay

1015
00:54:16,559 --> 00:54:19,440
thank you so we um then the next

1016
00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:21,839
opportunity to call for a 30-day

1017
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:23,280
um public comment

1018
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:26,099
right that's part of the initial lead

1019
00:54:26,099 --> 00:54:28,200
agency opening up the 30-day public

1020
00:54:28,200 --> 00:54:30,000
comment period for the purpose of Seeker

1021
00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,460
okay right and then you can also do the

1022
00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:34,740
call for separately separate resolution

1023
00:54:34,740 --> 00:54:36,599
call for a public hearing to let the

1024
00:54:36,599 --> 00:54:38,760
code okay

1025
00:54:38,760 --> 00:54:40,740
but you could actually take action to

1026
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:42,480
amend the code until after the public

1027
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,579
comment period has ended thank you but

1028
00:54:44,579 --> 00:54:46,200
we can still call we can still call you

1029
00:54:46,200 --> 00:54:47,460
can still do a call for public hearing

1030
00:54:47,460 --> 00:54:49,020
okay

1031
00:54:49,020 --> 00:54:50,760
so it's a motion to call for public

1032
00:54:50,760 --> 00:54:53,760
hearing so much second cause in favor

1033
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:56,150
aye

1034
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,180
okay we're gonna move back to the top of

1035
00:55:00,180 --> 00:55:01,680
the agenda

1036
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,920
so um

1037
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:07,140
building code changes for banquet

1038
00:55:07,140 --> 00:55:11,930
facilities

1039
00:55:11,940 --> 00:55:13,980
good evening again

1040
00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:17,359
um so this request is based on a lot of

1041
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:20,940
requests that we've received recently

1042
00:55:20,940 --> 00:55:22,160
um

1043
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:24,119
banquet halls

1044
00:55:24,119 --> 00:55:26,099
um so the current is open code permits

1045
00:55:26,099 --> 00:55:28,440
banquet facilities in the C3 Waterfront

1046
00:55:28,440 --> 00:55:30,119
mixed-use District but that's the only

1047
00:55:30,119 --> 00:55:31,440
District that they are currently

1048
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,319
permitted in and are you stable

1049
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:36,839
um so due to this limitation we've been

1050
00:55:36,839 --> 00:55:38,579
seeing people trying to figure out ways

1051
00:55:38,579 --> 00:55:41,819
to operate you know similar facilities

1052
00:55:41,819 --> 00:55:43,740
whether it's trying to do a social club

1053
00:55:43,740 --> 00:55:45,960
or a private Lodge and there's a lot of

1054
00:55:45,960 --> 00:55:49,260
like there's not a clear consensus from

1055
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:50,640
the definitions that were in the code

1056
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,819
about what each of these things were so

1057
00:55:53,819 --> 00:55:56,640
what we're proposing here is a zoning

1058
00:55:56,640 --> 00:55:58,619
chain request to allow for more

1059
00:55:58,619 --> 00:56:00,240
opportunities for business owners to

1060
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,339
provide banquet facilities to serve the

1061
00:56:02,339 --> 00:56:04,920
community in commercial districts the

1062
00:56:04,920 --> 00:56:07,140
Planning Commission is aware of these

1063
00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:10,200
issues and discussions for the need to

1064
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,599
change the zoning code you can see in

1065
00:56:12,599 --> 00:56:14,880
the use table we are proposing to allow

1066
00:56:14,880 --> 00:56:16,559
it in all of our commercial districts

1067
00:56:16,559 --> 00:56:20,160
aside from the C1 district and also to

1068
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:23,339
allow in the M1 and M2 districts

1069
00:56:23,339 --> 00:56:24,119
um

1070
00:56:24,119 --> 00:56:28,200
I mean I think that's kind of what the

1071
00:56:28,200 --> 00:56:30,240
general overview so there's two requests

1072
00:56:30,240 --> 00:56:31,260
here

1073
00:56:31,260 --> 00:56:32,880
um similar because it's a zoning code

1074
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,640
change we're looking for the council to

1075
00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:37,619
pass a resolution declaring the agency

1076
00:56:37,619 --> 00:56:39,480
for the environmental review for these

1077
00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,059
changes we've also provided

1078
00:56:42,059 --> 00:56:45,960
um the definitions that were amended to

1079
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,780
clarify thank the facility and private

1080
00:56:48,780 --> 00:56:51,180
uh private club

1081
00:56:51,180 --> 00:56:54,349
and launched

1082
00:56:54,359 --> 00:56:57,480
and this is related to

1083
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,059
an item that's further down the agenda

1084
00:57:00,059 --> 00:57:01,980
when it comes to the certificate of use

1085
00:57:01,980 --> 00:57:03,300
process

1086
00:57:03,300 --> 00:57:05,579
um so that's going to be for for the

1087
00:57:05,579 --> 00:57:07,680
daily agenda so we're looking again to

1088
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:10,200
the council first the player lead Agency

1089
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:12,900
for the environmental review

1090
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:20,930
any questions council members questions

1091
00:57:20,940 --> 00:57:23,640
all those in favor um and so item number

1092
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,040
two the call for public hearing for

1093
00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:27,960
zoning change

1094
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:32,750
tell me second all those in favor

1095
00:57:32,760 --> 00:57:36,059
thank you and the third item agenda is

1096
00:57:36,059 --> 00:57:38,160
agenda item is approval to extend the

1097
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,559
cdbg contract with the Miracle on Craig

1098
00:57:40,559 --> 00:57:43,619
street please yeah sure so we've been

1099
00:57:43,619 --> 00:57:46,140
working with America you can come up as

1100
00:57:46,140 --> 00:57:49,790
well

1101
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,140
um to focus on the Redevelopment of the

1102
00:57:52,140 --> 00:57:54,420
Carver community center this has been a

1103
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:56,819
work in progress for some time we're

1104
00:57:56,819 --> 00:57:59,099
back here tonight to discuss extending

1105
00:57:59,099 --> 00:58:02,640
our timeline for the CDG contract and

1106
00:58:02,640 --> 00:58:05,700
also extension of the timeline that's in

1107
00:58:05,700 --> 00:58:08,700
the current use agreement both of these

1108
00:58:08,700 --> 00:58:11,640
are I believe set to end at the end of

1109
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,160
this year and we want to give an update

1110
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:16,619
from we have tap on board who's

1111
00:58:16,619 --> 00:58:18,359
providing healthy control services via

1112
00:58:18,359 --> 00:58:20,339
Garden Health Center of tab and we also

1113
00:58:20,339 --> 00:58:22,740
have members from the Miracle on Craig

1114
00:58:22,740 --> 00:58:24,300
street so they're going to give a quick

1115
00:58:24,300 --> 00:58:27,960
update on where the project is and the

1116
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:31,079
next steps and then we can discuss these

1117
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,359
um amendments to the to the timelines

1118
00:58:33,359 --> 00:58:39,829
okay

1119
00:58:39,839 --> 00:58:41,520
good evening

1120
00:58:41,520 --> 00:58:43,260
um council president mayor council

1121
00:58:43,260 --> 00:58:45,180
members my name is Barb Nelson I'm an

1122
00:58:45,180 --> 00:58:48,359
architect with tap vllc and I'm a

1123
00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:51,540
director at teping we are a 54 year old

1124
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:53,339
non-profit architecture and planning

1125
00:58:53,339 --> 00:58:56,880
office and we do a lot of projects like

1126
00:58:56,880 --> 00:58:58,559
this we work with very distressed

1127
00:58:58,559 --> 00:59:00,960
buildings I'm sorry I don't have photos

1128
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:03,240
for you but we do have a presentation of

1129
00:59:03,240 --> 00:59:06,720
the floor plans is that right

1130
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:10,020
we have them in our packets all right

1131
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:12,559
okay I sent a slight difference Dan

1132
00:59:12,559 --> 00:59:15,240
that's the best thing do you think you

1133
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:17,990
can board up here

1134
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,839
um

1135
00:59:18,839 --> 00:59:23,010
questions

1136
00:59:23,020 --> 00:59:26,170
[Music]

1137
00:59:26,180 --> 00:59:28,380
yeah what you're finding your packet are

1138
00:59:28,380 --> 00:59:31,500
the architectural drawings uh to date

1139
00:59:31,500 --> 00:59:34,559
um we are maybe 20 30 finished with our

1140
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,299
architecturals

1141
00:59:36,299 --> 00:59:36,960
um

1142
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,359
and the engineers are on board we've had

1143
00:59:39,359 --> 00:59:41,760
uh hopes to to finish and get this out

1144
00:59:41,760 --> 00:59:44,579
to fit in by the end of the year

1145
00:59:44,579 --> 00:59:46,859
um we're just swamped and that's just

1146
00:59:46,859 --> 00:59:50,520
not happening but we have promised to be

1147
00:59:50,520 --> 00:59:53,099
outdated in February so that we can have

1148
00:59:53,099 --> 00:59:56,160
good competitive prices and we can be in

1149
00:59:56,160 --> 00:59:59,220
construction this spring the condition

1150
00:59:59,220 --> 01:00:01,260
of the building I'm sorry I don't have

1151
01:00:01,260 --> 01:00:04,799
photos it's just been really tragically

1152
01:00:04,799 --> 01:00:06,920
vandalized for 10 years

1153
01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,680
but the uh the good news is that it

1154
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:12,420
wasn't Community Center it will be a

1155
01:00:12,420 --> 01:00:14,940
community center again it's not a change

1156
01:00:14,940 --> 01:00:17,290
of views the code issues are not

1157
01:00:17,290 --> 01:00:18,619
[Music]

1158
01:00:18,619 --> 01:00:22,559
you know terribly hard to comply with so

1159
01:00:22,559 --> 01:00:26,520
we are working to at this point to

1160
01:00:26,520 --> 01:00:28,579
design

1161
01:00:28,579 --> 01:00:31,559
the facility pretty much putting it back

1162
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:34,500
to the facility that it was so we're

1163
01:00:34,500 --> 01:00:36,900
trying to keep costs as low as possible

1164
01:00:36,900 --> 01:00:40,440
uh speak to the budget a little bit we

1165
01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:43,920
understand that America has received or

1166
01:00:43,920 --> 01:00:48,720
been awarded a million uh 250 000. we

1167
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:51,900
are doing our best to meet that as a as

1168
01:00:51,900 --> 01:00:55,220
a budget the biggest issue there is the

1169
01:00:55,220 --> 01:00:57,660
mechanical systems that have all been

1170
01:00:57,660 --> 01:01:00,359
damaged

1171
01:01:00,359 --> 01:01:02,520
removed

1172
01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:04,859
as you can imagine copper and steel

1173
01:01:04,859 --> 01:01:07,859
everything is really been damaged and

1174
01:01:07,859 --> 01:01:10,200
taken out windows are severely damaged

1175
01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:15,540
or missing entirely so so my current

1176
01:01:15,540 --> 01:01:19,020
budget that I that I've been you know

1177
01:01:19,020 --> 01:01:22,440
trying to monitor is closer to a million

1178
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,720
five but we're doing everything we can

1179
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:26,579
to to bring that down with every

1180
01:01:26,579 --> 01:01:28,260
decision we make whether it's a movable

1181
01:01:28,260 --> 01:01:30,599
wall or not if we don't have to move it

1182
01:01:30,599 --> 01:01:34,380
we're just trying to work as as much as

1183
01:01:34,380 --> 01:01:36,480
we can within the parameters of the

1184
01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:38,059
existing building

1185
01:01:38,059 --> 01:01:41,579
the program for the building which I

1186
01:01:41,579 --> 01:01:44,220
could let the board members speak to

1187
01:01:44,220 --> 01:01:46,920
um is is also pretty much tailored to

1188
01:01:46,920 --> 01:01:49,619
the building so there'll be three

1189
01:01:49,619 --> 01:01:52,859
um classroom type spaces they may be

1190
01:01:52,859 --> 01:01:55,920
rented to small startup businesses they

1191
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:58,500
may be utilized for programs there's a

1192
01:01:58,500 --> 01:02:00,740
good size space that was the library

1193
01:02:00,740 --> 01:02:02,940
which also could be used for civic

1194
01:02:02,940 --> 01:02:04,980
meetings or rented for individual

1195
01:02:04,980 --> 01:02:07,799
programs on an event basis and then

1196
01:02:07,799 --> 01:02:09,960
there's the auditorium which is not a

1197
01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:13,619
regulation basketball court but good

1198
01:02:13,619 --> 01:02:19,500
perhaps court and and after school and practices as well as volleyball

1199
01:02:19,500 --> 01:02:21,720
badminton yoga whatever else and

1200
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:25,040
banquets and Community meals

1201
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:27,720
and there will be a kind of a lounge or

1202
01:02:27,720 --> 01:02:30,599
Lobby for for informal meeting as well

1203
01:02:30,599 --> 01:02:33,000
so we're aside from just doing the

1204
01:02:33,000 --> 01:02:34,920
architectural plans and the engineering

1205
01:02:34,920 --> 01:02:37,619
plans we are working with the miracle

1206
01:02:37,619 --> 01:02:42,540
board to lay all of that out the uses

1207
01:02:42,540 --> 01:02:44,819
and the spaces available laid out in a

1208
01:02:44,819 --> 01:02:47,059
program document so that they can

1209
01:02:47,059 --> 01:02:49,799
develop a performer you know this kind

1210
01:02:49,799 --> 01:02:51,599
of space could be rented on a monthly

1211
01:02:51,599 --> 01:02:54,059
basis and bring in this much a year this

1212
01:02:54,059 --> 01:02:56,220
kind of space might be an event and

1213
01:02:56,220 --> 01:02:58,619
program area so you might have a rental

1214
01:02:58,619 --> 01:03:00,960
for you know two nights a week or five

1215
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:02,579
weeks or certain class that kind of

1216
01:03:02,579 --> 01:03:04,339
thing so we're trying to

1217
01:03:04,339 --> 01:03:08,640
bring all that data together so that

1218
01:03:08,640 --> 01:03:12,480
we are able to look at

1219
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:14,099
you know the potential income for the

1220
01:03:14,099 --> 01:03:15,540
building and the potential operating

1221
01:03:15,540 --> 01:03:18,720
costs and and it's looking you know

1222
01:03:18,720 --> 01:03:19,799
right now we're just using very

1223
01:03:19,799 --> 01:03:22,260
conservative numbers but a facility

1224
01:03:22,260 --> 01:03:24,240
income of roughly fifty thousand dollars

1225
01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:26,700
certainly looks like we'll cover the uh

1226
01:03:26,700 --> 01:03:28,740
the utilities and basic maintenance

1227
01:03:28,740 --> 01:03:30,920
certainly there's going to have to be

1228
01:03:30,920 --> 01:03:33,059
you know fundraising that goes into

1229
01:03:33,059 --> 01:03:35,640
sapping and things like that but right

1230
01:03:35,640 --> 01:03:37,319
now our objective is to complete our

1231
01:03:37,319 --> 01:03:38,720
plans

1232
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:42,720
by the end of January and we very much

1233
01:03:42,720 --> 01:03:44,339
hope that you will grant them the

1234
01:03:44,339 --> 01:03:48,319
extension so that we can complete this is actually a historic building

1235
01:03:48,319 --> 01:03:51,540
it was I guess the original Center

1236
01:03:51,540 --> 01:03:55,200
burned and was replaced in some friends

1237
01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:57,540
of mine grew up there oh yeah yeah you

1238
01:03:57,540 --> 01:04:00,000
remember that place for me but this

1239
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:01,740
particular building was built in the 70s

1240
01:04:01,740 --> 01:04:03,839
when 50s and Schmidt they're very

1241
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:05,579
um well-known architects in this area

1242
01:04:05,579 --> 01:04:08,579
and it is on the historic register so

1243
01:04:08,579 --> 01:04:10,859
we're doing our best to really keep it

1244
01:04:10,859 --> 01:04:13,079
intact work with what's there and it's

1245
01:04:13,079 --> 01:04:15,480
really a sound sturdy building it's just

1246
01:04:15,480 --> 01:04:16,680
the Mechanicals have been completely

1247
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:18,960
ripped out so um so that's where the

1248
01:04:18,960 --> 01:04:20,579
majority of our cost is

1249
01:04:20,579 --> 01:04:23,099
any questions I do have a question the

1250
01:04:23,099 --> 01:04:25,380
last time there was a presentation here

1251
01:04:25,380 --> 01:04:27,660
um there was a talk about um putting up

1252
01:04:27,660 --> 01:04:29,099
a fence to kind of protect the perimeter

1253
01:04:29,099 --> 01:04:30,240
of the parking lot which people are

1254
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:33,240
using to well Park whatever they feel

1255
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:34,680
like and now that the scent Winter's

1256
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:37,079
here I'm sure it's going to become even

1257
01:04:37,079 --> 01:04:38,520
more so in the parking lot and I don't

1258
01:04:38,520 --> 01:04:40,799
see that it's happened yet right right I

1259
01:04:40,799 --> 01:04:43,140
was asked to help with the fence and I

1260
01:04:43,140 --> 01:04:45,599
suggested that we get a a survey and

1261
01:04:45,599 --> 01:04:47,000
then we finish our

1262
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:49,020
preliminary site planning so that we

1263
01:04:49,020 --> 01:04:51,240
know exactly where the fences should go

1264
01:04:51,240 --> 01:04:52,819
and whether we should be changing

1265
01:04:52,819 --> 01:04:56,160
locations of gates and whatnot so that

1266
01:04:56,160 --> 01:04:58,980
may be on me but we'll we'll be wrapping

1267
01:04:58,980 --> 01:05:01,079
that up again before the end of January

1268
01:05:01,079 --> 01:05:02,460
we don't have to wait until this

1269
01:05:02,460 --> 01:05:04,920
construction documents are complete we

1270
01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:07,859
had a meeting with us before last month

1271
01:05:07,859 --> 01:05:10,740
November and um I'm sure we could

1272
01:05:10,740 --> 01:05:12,299
probably get that result at the next

1273
01:05:12,299 --> 01:05:14,819
meeting okay so we do have some vids but

1274
01:05:14,819 --> 01:05:16,500
I need to talk to those bidders and find

1275
01:05:16,500 --> 01:05:18,359
out what plan they based

1276
01:05:18,359 --> 01:05:21,119
mixtures the plan that we're that we're

1277
01:05:21,119 --> 01:05:22,440
ending up with there's things like

1278
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,859
exiting from the auditorium we need

1279
01:05:24,859 --> 01:05:28,680
sidewalks you know to public area so

1280
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,480
I just want to make sure the fences line

1281
01:05:30,480 --> 01:05:32,940
up with uh so we don't have to redo

1282
01:05:32,940 --> 01:05:34,200
anything we don't want to have to redo

1283
01:05:34,200 --> 01:05:38,460
anything okay questions Miss Patrick yes

1284
01:05:38,460 --> 01:05:39,540
um could you remind me what the

1285
01:05:39,540 --> 01:05:41,819
contingency on the funding is on this

1286
01:05:41,819 --> 01:05:43,920
one

1287
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,619
I think she's talking about I'm sorry

1288
01:05:46,619 --> 01:05:47,220
um

1289
01:05:47,220 --> 01:05:51,119
uh yes so I believe it was because we

1290
01:05:51,119 --> 01:05:52,799
didn't have architectural drawings to

1291
01:05:52,799 --> 01:05:54,839
price to figure out what the cost of the

1292
01:05:54,839 --> 01:05:56,400
project was

1293
01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:58,980
um we didn't know if it would exceed the

1294
01:05:58,980 --> 01:06:00,660
funding that was allocated from what I'm

1295
01:06:00,660 --> 01:06:02,640
understanding now they are trying to

1296
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:07,559
keep the budget within that that number

1297
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:09,420
um but we have to really wait to see

1298
01:06:09,420 --> 01:06:11,700
what the bids come back at and at that

1299
01:06:11,700 --> 01:06:13,500
point we'll know you know we have I

1300
01:06:13,500 --> 01:06:15,119
think we've been more issues Barb and

1301
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:17,160
the team has been working on General

1302
01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:18,900
Clause estimates but until we put it out

1303
01:06:18,900 --> 01:06:20,640
to bid we won't have that number it

1304
01:06:20,640 --> 01:06:23,099
sounds like that will be in February and

1305
01:06:23,099 --> 01:06:25,260
then we'll see if there is more funding

1306
01:06:25,260 --> 01:06:27,000
that needs to be raised for the actual

1307
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,359
construction however I think a lot of

1308
01:06:30,359 --> 01:06:32,160
the additional fundraising will be for

1309
01:06:32,160 --> 01:06:34,980
the actual operating cost of you know

1310
01:06:34,980 --> 01:06:37,980
running the building and and moving into

1311
01:06:37,980 --> 01:06:41,160
that so I think before we anticipated a

1312
01:06:41,160 --> 01:06:43,500
much larger number but I think we're now

1313
01:06:43,500 --> 01:06:45,000
trying to tailor it to the funding

1314
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,299
that's available and with when the bids

1315
01:06:48,299 --> 01:06:51,780
come back we'll see if um we need to

1316
01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:54,059
there needs to be additional funding for

1317
01:06:54,059 --> 01:06:56,940
the that you know that the arbor

1318
01:06:56,940 --> 01:06:58,559
funds will be continuing on so we want

1319
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:00,059
to we need to make sure we can complete

1320
01:07:00,059 --> 01:07:01,859
the construction of course

1321
01:07:01,859 --> 01:07:04,680
um but we just don't have the number the

1322
01:07:04,680 --> 01:07:06,660
hard numbers just to say what that

1323
01:07:06,660 --> 01:07:09,299
number is and that's really the cdbg

1324
01:07:09,299 --> 01:07:12,119
funding no prescribing no I'm talking

1325
01:07:12,119 --> 01:07:14,160
about the art book ones right yeah the

1326
01:07:14,160 --> 01:07:17,099
cwg funding is

1327
01:07:17,099 --> 01:07:19,680
um is is sort of separate and that was

1328
01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,380
for the to pick the Design Services

1329
01:07:22,380 --> 01:07:24,900
right there was also the fence that was

1330
01:07:24,900 --> 01:07:26,819
going to be completed this summer

1331
01:07:26,819 --> 01:07:28,500
um but it was it just didn't make sense

1332
01:07:28,500 --> 01:07:30,480
to move forward with that until we

1333
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,460
actually think related to the design of

1334
01:07:32,460 --> 01:07:34,559
the building and more comprehensive look

1335
01:07:34,559 --> 01:07:36,480
at the site and what needed to happen so

1336
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,059
the contingency on the 1.25 article

1337
01:07:39,059 --> 01:07:41,819
funding was that the fundraising that

1338
01:07:41,819 --> 01:07:44,280
Carver needed to do in order to complete

1339
01:07:44,280 --> 01:07:46,559
the project would be completed within

1340
01:07:46,559 --> 01:07:48,020
Now

1341
01:07:48,020 --> 01:07:53,270
by September of 2020.

1342
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,000
um right yes so that's still that Still

1343
01:07:57,000 --> 01:07:58,740
Remains and it's just a question of what

1344
01:07:58,740 --> 01:08:00,480
is that final construction cost going to

1345
01:08:00,480 --> 01:08:01,200
be

1346
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:02,819
does it fit within the money that's

1347
01:08:02,819 --> 01:08:04,559
allocated or is there additional funding

1348
01:08:04,559 --> 01:08:06,240
that's needed

1349
01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,859
no

1350
01:08:07,859 --> 01:08:10,500
swings so thank you for the presentation

1351
01:08:10,500 --> 01:08:11,940
I think a lot of members in the

1352
01:08:11,940 --> 01:08:13,440
community are really excited to see this

1353
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,000
process move forward you know a lot of

1354
01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:16,679
work has been done I know you mentioned

1355
01:08:16,679 --> 01:08:18,839
that your current budget uh it's

1356
01:08:18,839 --> 01:08:21,179
currently projected at 1.5 million are

1357
01:08:21,179 --> 01:08:23,219
there any other outliers or questionable

1358
01:08:23,219 --> 01:08:25,319
areas that have repeated concern I

1359
01:08:25,319 --> 01:08:27,480
appreciate it being mild but I think a

1360
01:08:27,480 --> 01:08:29,339
lot of us want to make sure we're

1361
01:08:29,339 --> 01:08:31,140
putting in place a resource that is

1362
01:08:31,140 --> 01:08:33,660
beneficial and is not shortchanging the

1363
01:08:33,660 --> 01:08:36,020
community that's in directing right

1364
01:08:36,020 --> 01:08:38,940
well I was glad to see that Craig street

1365
01:08:38,940 --> 01:08:41,299
is receiving a full

1366
01:08:41,299 --> 01:08:43,679
revitalization so that I didn't need to

1367
01:08:43,679 --> 01:08:46,140
have sidewalks in the trees in my budget

1368
01:08:46,140 --> 01:08:48,239
anymore that kind of thing I can tell

1369
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:49,980
you that the house on Dwayne street is

1370
01:08:49,980 --> 01:08:52,460
not included in our in that current

1371
01:08:52,460 --> 01:08:56,570
budget that was

1372
01:08:56,580 --> 01:08:58,560
so that that's an add-on sort of the

1373
01:08:58,560 --> 01:09:00,779
work that we've been doing

1374
01:09:00,779 --> 01:09:02,160
um but we'll

1375
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:04,920
we're also working with the seat Center

1376
01:09:04,920 --> 01:09:07,259
just find out what items can be done

1377
01:09:07,259 --> 01:09:09,179
what elements of the work can be done as

1378
01:09:09,179 --> 01:09:11,640
training exercises as as educational

1379
01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:13,199
opportunities

1380
01:09:13,199 --> 01:09:14,160
um it's going to be a lot of sheep

1381
01:09:14,160 --> 01:09:15,060
breath

1382
01:09:15,060 --> 01:09:18,779
to be placed a lot of painting a lot of

1383
01:09:18,779 --> 01:09:21,480
you know some minor carpentries so we'll

1384
01:09:21,480 --> 01:09:23,279
be working with the seat to see how we

1385
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:26,880
can we can bring those numbers down and

1386
01:09:26,880 --> 01:09:28,739
we'll be looking to find contractors

1387
01:09:28,739 --> 01:09:30,839
that'll you know work with us creatively

1388
01:09:30,839 --> 01:09:33,299
but it'll be a full competitive process

1389
01:09:33,299 --> 01:09:34,920
and when we select a contractor it will

1390
01:09:34,920 --> 01:09:37,259
start so we've got a couple things in

1391
01:09:37,259 --> 01:09:38,819
there that we've

1392
01:09:38,819 --> 01:09:40,799
um identified as Alternatives that we

1393
01:09:40,799 --> 01:09:42,179
can pull out you know if the numbers

1394
01:09:42,179 --> 01:09:45,000
come in too high what's the left

1395
01:09:45,000 --> 01:09:47,219
um we want to build a corridor through

1396
01:09:47,219 --> 01:09:50,339
the courtyard we can actually take that

1397
01:09:50,339 --> 01:09:56,520
out there's a number of things like that we could kind of peel back and that

1398
01:09:56,520 --> 01:09:58,679
can be done at a later time

1399
01:09:58,679 --> 01:10:01,980
um but but yes our intent is to make the

1400
01:10:01,980 --> 01:10:05,640
building whole not to leave any part of

1401
01:10:05,640 --> 01:10:08,239
it you know undone for a later time

1402
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:11,460
and to provide the facilities that will

1403
01:10:11,460 --> 01:10:15,540
be needed and useful in the neighborhood

1404
01:10:15,540 --> 01:10:17,520
the swings and just the secondary

1405
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:18,900
consideration I know there have been

1406
01:10:18,900 --> 01:10:20,940
volunteers actively working

1407
01:10:20,940 --> 01:10:23,460
currently I think would be smart to kind

1408
01:10:23,460 --> 01:10:26,100
of identify that cost savings as a way

1409
01:10:26,100 --> 01:10:27,900
to appreciate their work done and how

1410
01:10:27,900 --> 01:10:32,780
that has saved some dollars yeah

1411
01:10:32,780 --> 01:10:39,550
good evening everyone

1412
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,060
I'm Juliana Obi I am one of the board

1413
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:44,400
members of Miracle on Craig and also a

1414
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:46,860
former sanctity Community member and to

1415
01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:48,540
your point we have

1416
01:10:48,540 --> 01:10:50,460
um we did figure out what the dollar

1417
01:10:50,460 --> 01:10:52,560
amount was for the volunteers over the

1418
01:10:52,560 --> 01:10:54,780
years we have saved about sixty thousand

1419
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:58,560
dollars just having volunteers come by

1420
01:10:58,560 --> 01:11:01,380
um we are very anxious as well to have

1421
01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:03,420
that fence put up just to continue to

1422
01:11:03,420 --> 01:11:06,659
safeguard our building but thank you to

1423
01:11:06,659 --> 01:11:09,540
our every weekend I think during the

1424
01:11:09,540 --> 01:11:11,760
summer probably from May all the way

1425
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,280
until November we are volunteering or

1426
01:11:14,280 --> 01:11:16,560
having volunteers come out to help keep

1427
01:11:16,560 --> 01:11:18,840
the area clean the last thing that we

1428
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:20,460
want is for the building to be an

1429
01:11:20,460 --> 01:11:23,600
eyesore to the community so we are very

1430
01:11:23,600 --> 01:11:27,360
aware of the need for volunteers and the

1431
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,000
consistency that it takes to keep and

1432
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:33,780
maintain that that area looking up and

1433
01:11:33,780 --> 01:11:35,940
decent until construction is well

1434
01:11:35,940 --> 01:11:38,880
underway so thank you for asking that

1435
01:11:38,880 --> 01:11:41,699
and I do want if I if I may I do want to

1436
01:11:41,699 --> 01:11:44,159
speak to you I know that a question for

1437
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:46,699
everyone including board members uh

1438
01:11:46,699 --> 01:11:49,100
folks that are interested in the project

1439
01:11:49,100 --> 01:11:51,000
supporters of the project whether

1440
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:53,219
Financial or just in spirit are always

1441
01:11:53,219 --> 01:11:55,739
wondering is our sustainability and what

1442
01:11:55,739 --> 01:11:57,140
that looks like when the doors are open

1443
01:11:57,140 --> 01:12:00,239
so we did put together we will share

1444
01:12:00,239 --> 01:12:01,739
with Kristen

1445
01:12:01,739 --> 01:12:03,600
um we did put together what a projected

1446
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,520
first year budget would look like when

1447
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:08,520
the doors are open speaking to some of

1448
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,679
the partners that we would have in the

1449
01:12:10,679 --> 01:12:13,679
space speaking to the membership that we

1450
01:12:13,679 --> 01:12:15,600
would charge to use some of the spaces

1451
01:12:15,600 --> 01:12:18,300
that barb was talking about and how that

1452
01:12:18,300 --> 01:12:20,640
can help us flourish when those doors

1453
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:22,739
are open so we'll make sure that this

1454
01:12:22,739 --> 01:12:25,140
committee hits all of um all of that and

1455
01:12:25,140 --> 01:12:27,860
it is just a projected definitely

1456
01:12:27,860 --> 01:12:30,719
looking to work with organizations and

1457
01:12:30,719 --> 01:12:33,300
businesses that are already up and

1458
01:12:33,300 --> 01:12:36,060
running and very successful in the area

1459
01:12:36,060 --> 01:12:38,219
that can speak to what we want this

1460
01:12:38,219 --> 01:12:40,620
community center to be whether it be

1461
01:12:40,620 --> 01:12:42,060
partnering with new choices or

1462
01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:44,120
Schenectady school district

1463
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:47,940
C Center of course and other agencies

1464
01:12:47,940 --> 01:12:49,860
and bringing those folks on to partner

1465
01:12:49,860 --> 01:12:52,620
with us to rent space out of and be a

1466
01:12:52,620 --> 01:12:54,900
consistent partner so that we aren't

1467
01:12:54,900 --> 01:12:57,600
having to go month by month and say you

1468
01:12:57,600 --> 01:12:58,679
know we're bringing in this little bit

1469
01:12:58,679 --> 01:13:00,540
of money but really having those

1470
01:13:00,540 --> 01:13:03,780
long-term contracts so as the building

1471
01:13:03,780 --> 01:13:06,000
starts to be worked on we'll be able to

1472
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:07,980
do walk-throughs with those agencies so

1473
01:13:07,980 --> 01:13:09,420
that we can show them what projected

1474
01:13:09,420 --> 01:13:11,219
space would look like and getting some

1475
01:13:11,219 --> 01:13:13,140
mlus and contracts together for that

1476
01:13:13,140 --> 01:13:15,480
sustainability

1477
01:13:15,480 --> 01:13:17,520
are there plans uh it was brought up

1478
01:13:17,520 --> 01:13:19,500
that you know one point where we may not

1479
01:13:19,500 --> 01:13:21,840
be enough so are there it's a lot of

1480
01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,900
money though um

1481
01:13:23,900 --> 01:13:25,800
what are the plans for all the

1482
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:27,300
fundraising we're getting matching funds

1483
01:13:27,300 --> 01:13:30,360
to have are those kind of um are you

1484
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:31,800
working on those things at the same time

1485
01:13:31,800 --> 01:13:34,739
yes absolutely so now that we can almost

1486
01:13:34,739 --> 01:13:37,199
we can't take a breath but we can almost

1487
01:13:37,199 --> 01:13:40,440
take a breath in not having to fundraise

1488
01:13:40,440 --> 01:13:43,500
for the you know the humongous project

1489
01:13:43,500 --> 01:13:46,140
um the 1.2 1.5 whatever it's going to

1490
01:13:46,140 --> 01:13:50,040
cost we are now as a board looking for

1491
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:52,020
donors to

1492
01:13:52,020 --> 01:13:54,659
I guess increase the numbers you know we

1493
01:13:54,659 --> 01:13:57,360
had an amazing event on Saturday

1494
01:13:57,360 --> 01:13:58,620
um this weekend thank you for your

1495
01:13:58,620 --> 01:14:00,480
attendance um mayor thank you for your

1496
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:03,540
attendance as well and those while it's

1497
01:14:03,540 --> 01:14:05,520
amazing to have those people in that

1498
01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:06,300
space

1499
01:14:06,300 --> 01:14:07,739
um that have been supporters for the

1500
01:14:07,739 --> 01:14:08,940
seven years we've been working on this

1501
01:14:08,940 --> 01:14:11,100
project we are absolutely at the same

1502
01:14:11,100 --> 01:14:12,600
time that Barb and her team is doing

1503
01:14:12,600 --> 01:14:14,640
their thing on the back end we are also

1504
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:16,080
doing ours to make sure that we can

1505
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,179
cover any additional costs and not just

1506
01:14:18,179 --> 01:14:19,800
the building costs once the building is

1507
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:21,360
done we have to furnish the building as

1508
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,920
well so we're talking Furniture

1509
01:14:22,920 --> 01:14:26,280
technology applying for Grants applying

1510
01:14:26,280 --> 01:14:27,780
for anything that makes us more energy

1511
01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:30,600
efficient anything that makes clean

1512
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:32,940
water you know in the building so the

1513
01:14:32,940 --> 01:14:35,340
list goes on but now as a board we are

1514
01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:38,100
able to kind of dig into

1515
01:14:38,100 --> 01:14:41,520
um another type of funding to cover more

1516
01:14:41,520 --> 01:14:42,480
of the

1517
01:14:42,480 --> 01:14:44,940
um the overhead you know costs and

1518
01:14:44,940 --> 01:14:46,320
things that it will to make this

1519
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,179
building look beautiful like it deserves

1520
01:14:48,179 --> 01:14:52,550
to be on the inside and out

1521
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:56,100
and uh Mr Farley yeah so I I just I

1522
01:14:56,100 --> 01:14:57,719
think it's noteworthy that when we talk

1523
01:14:57,719 --> 01:14:59,580
about sustainability that we also think

1524
01:14:59,580 --> 01:15:00,300
about

1525
01:15:00,300 --> 01:15:02,460
um the longevity

1526
01:15:02,460 --> 01:15:04,199
um which you know I I think about this

1527
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:06,179
project um less than seven years I think

1528
01:15:06,179 --> 01:15:08,400
that that is actually a strength I think

1529
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:09,600
that's something that's very unique

1530
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,520
about this project is that

1531
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,340
um there was we were very intentional I

1532
01:15:14,340 --> 01:15:15,900
was fortunate enough to be a part of

1533
01:15:15,900 --> 01:15:18,480
some of this initially very intentional

1534
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:19,679
about getting

1535
01:15:19,679 --> 01:15:21,900
um input from the people that lived in

1536
01:15:21,900 --> 01:15:24,239
the community and I and I think that

1537
01:15:24,239 --> 01:15:27,120
when you have that level of buying and

1538
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:28,620
you have that level of being really

1539
01:15:28,620 --> 01:15:30,420
culturally responsive

1540
01:15:30,420 --> 01:15:32,159
um and understanding the needs wants

1541
01:15:32,159 --> 01:15:34,699
concerns and strengths of the community

1542
01:15:34,699 --> 01:15:37,739
that that you know combined effort is

1543
01:15:37,739 --> 01:15:39,480
something that speaks to sustainability

1544
01:15:39,480 --> 01:15:41,820
in a way that we generally don't talk

1545
01:15:41,820 --> 01:15:43,560
about but I think that it is equally as

1546
01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:46,800
important and extremely noteworth

1547
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:49,500
any other questions or comments

1548
01:15:49,500 --> 01:15:50,940
okay we have two things before us

1549
01:15:50,940 --> 01:15:53,040
tonight uh the first is to approve the

1550
01:15:53,040 --> 01:15:55,440
extension of the cvbg contract with

1551
01:15:55,440 --> 01:15:57,960
Miracle on Craig Street which is you

1552
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,940
know thank you well which Miss Nelson

1553
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:01,800
spoke to

1554
01:16:01,800 --> 01:16:05,340
all entertain a motion so second all

1555
01:16:05,340 --> 01:16:07,320
those in favor

1556
01:16:07,320 --> 01:16:09,780
and the second one is to approve or

1557
01:16:09,780 --> 01:16:11,280
amend the youth agreement with Miracle

1558
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,600
on Craig Street unless there's more

1559
01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,910
questions or discussions around that

1560
01:16:16,920 --> 01:16:18,600
I think they answered everything within

1561
01:16:18,600 --> 01:16:20,820
their within their um presentation but

1562
01:16:20,820 --> 01:16:22,380
everyone anyone has additional questions

1563
01:16:22,380 --> 01:16:25,330
regarding or not

1564
01:16:25,340 --> 01:16:27,179
all's in favor

1565
01:16:27,179 --> 01:16:27,430
aye

1566
01:16:27,430 --> 01:16:29,580
[Applause]

1567
01:16:29,580 --> 01:16:34,189
thank you very much thank you for coming

1568
01:16:34,199 --> 01:16:37,320
okay and uh we're gonna actually do an

1569
01:16:37,320 --> 01:16:39,120
iPhone 5 so item six

1570
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:42,120
will be a housing Town Hall follow-up

1571
01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:45,169
discussion

1572
01:16:45,179 --> 01:16:47,219
thank you so I'm excited to announce

1573
01:16:47,219 --> 01:16:49,860
that uh this past December 1st we

1574
01:16:49,860 --> 01:16:51,840
successfully held the housing Town Hall

1575
01:16:51,840 --> 01:16:54,360
where we had members from both sides of

1576
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:56,520
the conversation tents landlords

1577
01:16:56,520 --> 01:16:58,440
homeowners also members of local

1578
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:00,840
organizations just present in speaking

1579
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:03,420
to our city council I think by all

1580
01:17:03,420 --> 01:17:05,159
accounts it was a success it was

1581
01:17:05,159 --> 01:17:07,500
definitely very well attended and the

1582
01:17:07,500 --> 01:17:09,659
feedback that I got was very positive I

1583
01:17:09,659 --> 01:17:10,920
thought this would be an appropriate

1584
01:17:10,920 --> 01:17:12,000
opportunity to hear from the other

1585
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:14,219
council members the reflections on the

1586
01:17:14,219 --> 01:17:16,380
event I thought on Baseline

1587
01:17:16,380 --> 01:17:18,060
consideration and provided a lot of

1588
01:17:18,060 --> 01:17:19,620
members of our community the opportunity

1589
01:17:19,620 --> 01:17:23,100
to see one of our very vital resources

1590
01:17:23,100 --> 01:17:25,800
the boys and girls club and then

1591
01:17:25,800 --> 01:17:27,780
secondly I thought it was a nice

1592
01:17:27,780 --> 01:17:30,360
opportunity for interaction so I think

1593
01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:33,659
commonly when we hear of discussion it's

1594
01:17:33,659 --> 01:17:34,860
very easily are people to become

1595
01:17:34,860 --> 01:17:36,780
defensive I thought one of the the

1596
01:17:36,780 --> 01:17:39,120
Staples of that evening was the ability

1597
01:17:39,120 --> 01:17:42,480
for people to listen from all accounts

1598
01:17:42,480 --> 01:17:45,360
I wanted to take time to this address uh

1599
01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:46,739
some of the tenant concerns tenant

1600
01:17:46,739 --> 01:17:48,360
recommendations and also landlord

1601
01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:50,640
concerns and landlord recommendations I

1602
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,199
want to preface this this is not all

1603
01:17:52,199 --> 01:17:53,940
inclusive just the reflection of some of

1604
01:17:53,940 --> 01:17:56,040
the the discussion items that were

1605
01:17:56,040 --> 01:17:58,140
brought up from a tenant standpoint some

1606
01:17:58,140 --> 01:17:59,640
of the concerns were month-to-month

1607
01:17:59,640 --> 01:18:02,159
leases the payment history however still

1608
01:18:02,159 --> 01:18:04,560
being asked to leave secondly it was

1609
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,060
properties sold right from underneath

1610
01:18:06,060 --> 01:18:08,760
good on-time tenants and we're speaking

1611
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:11,699
more about the transience factor and

1612
01:18:11,699 --> 01:18:13,440
then also rents raising higher than

1613
01:18:13,440 --> 01:18:15,540
wages some of the 10 recommendations

1614
01:18:15,540 --> 01:18:17,640
centered around more stability and

1615
01:18:17,640 --> 01:18:19,679
leasing agreements also addressing

1616
01:18:19,679 --> 01:18:21,179
landlords who aren't taking care of

1617
01:18:21,179 --> 01:18:23,520
their properties and also instituting

1618
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,260
programs that turn into lapitative

1619
01:18:25,260 --> 01:18:27,480
properties into more affordable housing

1620
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:29,159
for low-income and impoverished

1621
01:18:29,159 --> 01:18:31,920
communities and shifting gears some of

1622
01:18:31,920 --> 01:18:34,280
the landlord concerns were sent around

1623
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:36,420
an appropriate level of government

1624
01:18:36,420 --> 01:18:39,060
involvement putting that mildly and

1625
01:18:39,060 --> 01:18:42,060
understanding that Solutions of me to

1626
01:18:42,060 --> 01:18:42,900
take into account

1627
01:18:42,900 --> 01:18:46,320
Rising expenses and why are homeowners

1628
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:49,320
considered easier targets secondly there

1629
01:18:49,320 --> 01:18:50,940
was landlords are simply looking to make

1630
01:18:50,940 --> 01:18:53,820
ends meet will there be a cap on supply

1631
01:18:53,820 --> 01:18:55,560
chain labor costs and also other

1632
01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,260
Associated Rising expenses and also

1633
01:18:58,260 --> 01:19:00,840
perceptions of police being Protestant

1634
01:19:00,840 --> 01:19:04,020
or anti-landlord and some of the

1635
01:19:04,020 --> 01:19:06,060
landlord recommendations center around

1636
01:19:06,060 --> 01:19:09,239
segmenting larger larger portion of our

1637
01:19:09,239 --> 01:19:11,040
new developments to low-income families

1638
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:13,560
offering incentives for landlords and

1639
01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:17,520
then also I know slick from their share

1640
01:19:17,520 --> 01:19:19,320
at the time bar was present talking

1641
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:21,780
about the landlord licensing program so

1642
01:19:21,780 --> 01:19:25,260
very uh powerful conversations that were

1643
01:19:25,260 --> 01:19:27,960
present I know some of the concerns were

1644
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,420
around rent stabilization and rent

1645
01:19:30,420 --> 01:19:32,340
controls and I'm excited to identify

1646
01:19:32,340 --> 01:19:34,340
that there were a lot of recommendations

1647
01:19:34,340 --> 01:19:37,440
to include that but also understanding

1648
01:19:37,440 --> 01:19:39,960
what our city council is authorized to

1649
01:19:39,960 --> 01:19:41,880
do before I turn it over to the

1650
01:19:41,880 --> 01:19:43,739
counselmers I thought it was important

1651
01:19:43,739 --> 01:19:45,659
I appreciate the comments that I

1652
01:19:45,659 --> 01:19:47,520
received from Chris Mullen initially

1653
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,780
when this conversation was brought

1654
01:19:48,780 --> 01:19:51,120
forward it was understood to have

1655
01:19:51,120 --> 01:19:52,560
quarterly meetings and one of his

1656
01:19:52,560 --> 01:19:54,719
suggestions was having this be

1657
01:19:54,719 --> 01:19:56,820
specialized around a topic to kind of

1658
01:19:56,820 --> 01:19:59,159
spur the community to address an issue

1659
01:19:59,159 --> 01:20:01,080
rather than just having it just be

1660
01:20:01,080 --> 01:20:04,560
present four times a year and also I

1661
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:06,239
appreciate Maurice Brown giving insight

1662
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:07,800
into how the structure of the meeting

1663
01:20:07,800 --> 01:20:10,320
was very necessary so that we captured

1664
01:20:10,320 --> 01:20:12,239
information the proper way and also

1665
01:20:12,239 --> 01:20:13,980
welcome the appropriate information

1666
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:16,739
so again thank you to everyone

1667
01:20:16,739 --> 01:20:18,719
um looking forward to hearing your

1668
01:20:18,719 --> 01:20:20,540
comments and incorporating those into

1669
01:20:20,540 --> 01:20:22,940
potential next town hall in the future

1670
01:20:22,940 --> 01:20:25,860
topic depending

1671
01:20:25,860 --> 01:20:27,900
um are there questions

1672
01:20:27,900 --> 01:20:30,239
all right so mayor I wanted to ask you a

1673
01:20:30,239 --> 01:20:31,860
specific one that was brought up about

1674
01:20:31,860 --> 01:20:34,920
the um the landlord licensing program

1675
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:36,900
that's being discussed

1676
01:20:36,900 --> 01:20:38,840
that was mentioned at the meeting

1677
01:20:38,840 --> 01:20:42,320
so could you just tell us a little bit

1678
01:20:42,320 --> 01:20:45,000
slick mentioned it but didn't really get

1679
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,540
into it the ongoing discussion with some

1680
01:20:48,540 --> 01:20:51,000
of the council members with select some

1681
01:20:51,000 --> 01:20:52,620
of the staff

1682
01:20:52,620 --> 01:20:57,420
it's a they're updating a handbook it's

1683
01:20:57,420 --> 01:20:59,400
a point we're not

1684
01:20:59,400 --> 01:21:01,500
think prepared to come back with a final

1685
01:21:01,500 --> 01:21:03,540
recommendation yet but it's still being

1686
01:21:03,540 --> 01:21:07,320
evolved and looked at handbook for the

1687
01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:09,719
landlords correct

1688
01:21:09,719 --> 01:21:11,699
that was done

1689
01:21:11,699 --> 01:21:14,280
a number of years ago and it's just

1690
01:21:14,280 --> 01:21:19,750
being updated now

1691
01:21:19,760 --> 01:21:23,750
any questions or comments

1692
01:21:23,760 --> 01:21:25,560
um I can't say that I did hear um from

1693
01:21:25,560 --> 01:21:26,699
the Department of development there and

1694
01:21:26,699 --> 01:21:28,620
so on the tenant side they do have

1695
01:21:28,620 --> 01:21:30,360
updated tenant handbooks as well so

1696
01:21:30,360 --> 01:21:35,100
those are there and already available

1697
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:38,040
so Mr yes Mr Williams so I guess in

1698
01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,020
conclusion I'd like to make sure I'm not

1699
01:21:40,020 --> 01:21:41,699
speaking for the council I think the

1700
01:21:41,699 --> 01:21:43,440
next steps definitely include working

1701
01:21:43,440 --> 01:21:45,179
more collaboratively with some of our

1702
01:21:45,179 --> 01:21:46,500
local organizations we're probably

1703
01:21:46,500 --> 01:21:49,560
better suited to help impact this

1704
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:51,659
conversation so our own danger

1705
01:21:51,659 --> 01:21:53,340
appropriate I would like to forward

1706
01:21:53,340 --> 01:21:54,860
these meeting minutes

1707
01:21:54,860 --> 01:21:57,480
agencies and then we can bring this back

1708
01:21:57,480 --> 01:22:00,000
up for follow-up discussion to identify

1709
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:03,000
how to start actioning or evaluating

1710
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:07,040
what are actionable items from the notes

1711
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:09,420
any feedback at all from Council Members

1712
01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:12,480
based on the news sir yeah

1713
01:22:12,480 --> 01:22:15,780
Mr Farley so awesome I have a lot of

1714
01:22:15,780 --> 01:22:18,179
feedback as far as the town hall I think

1715
01:22:18,179 --> 01:22:20,520
that it was a great success I think any

1716
01:22:20,520 --> 01:22:23,520
time that we increase access to

1717
01:22:23,520 --> 01:22:24,840
government

1718
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,540
um we will increase participation and I

1719
01:22:27,540 --> 01:22:29,880
think that just by judging of the number

1720
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:31,199
of people

1721
01:22:31,199 --> 01:22:34,199
um that were there this is clearly a

1722
01:22:34,199 --> 01:22:36,360
issue that's resonating with our

1723
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,340
residents and so we want to continue to

1724
01:22:38,340 --> 01:22:39,840
do that so I think that you know I'm

1725
01:22:39,840 --> 01:22:42,900
really impressed and happy with with the

1726
01:22:42,900 --> 01:22:44,699
turnout that we had there

1727
01:22:44,699 --> 01:22:47,520
um I think that um the issue when um I

1728
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,800
brought it forward

1729
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,440
just in the conversation

1730
01:22:52,440 --> 01:22:56,640
um here and that we had at our larger

1731
01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:58,260
council meeting

1732
01:22:58,260 --> 01:23:00,600
I don't think that we really got to

1733
01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:02,219
appreciate or understand the full

1734
01:23:02,219 --> 01:23:04,860
breadth of the issue until we have the

1735
01:23:04,860 --> 01:23:07,440
town hall I think that just the

1736
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:09,659
attendance alone and people's ability

1737
01:23:09,659 --> 01:23:12,179
you know we talk about this issue as one

1738
01:23:12,179 --> 01:23:15,360
side landlord side tenant side what I

1739
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:17,820
was most impressed by was that there was

1740
01:23:17,820 --> 01:23:19,560
a lot of

1741
01:23:19,560 --> 01:23:21,780
um Common Ground there and there was a

1742
01:23:21,780 --> 01:23:25,080
lot of shared concerns shared values and

1743
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:26,760
shared expectations

1744
01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,860
um for us as a community so I think that

1745
01:23:28,860 --> 01:23:31,260
we are closer

1746
01:23:31,260 --> 01:23:33,960
um to or in more agreement with one

1747
01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:35,880
another than we think and I think that

1748
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:37,560
that's why we have to be really

1749
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:39,540
intentional about creating the

1750
01:23:39,540 --> 01:23:41,580
conditions such as a town hall where

1751
01:23:41,580 --> 01:23:43,739
people can demonstrate that so I just

1752
01:23:43,739 --> 01:23:45,179
want to say that I was really really

1753
01:23:45,179 --> 01:23:47,400
happy about the town hall the

1754
01:23:47,400 --> 01:23:49,560
participation and

1755
01:23:49,560 --> 01:23:51,659
um again I want to make sure that you

1756
01:23:51,659 --> 01:23:54,600
know to slick and any other council

1757
01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:56,780
members who are working on this

1758
01:23:56,780 --> 01:24:02,580
when I brought this forward to council I initially said I welcome everyone as a

1759
01:24:02,580 --> 01:24:04,920
thought partner and I

1760
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:07,620
want to encourage you to uh you know

1761
01:24:07,620 --> 01:24:10,260
please include me in those conversations

1762
01:24:10,260 --> 01:24:11,640
um and let's continue to work together

1763
01:24:11,640 --> 01:24:15,360
to find a solution

1764
01:24:15,360 --> 01:24:17,940
so uh Mr Williams and I did attend the

1765
01:24:17,940 --> 01:24:20,460
slickville last slick meeting

1766
01:24:20,460 --> 01:24:22,260
Schenectady landlords and influence too

1767
01:24:22,260 --> 01:24:23,699
influencing change for those of you that

1768
01:24:23,699 --> 01:24:26,520
don't know the acronym and one of the

1769
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:28,020
some of the feedback we got was

1770
01:24:28,020 --> 01:24:30,179
specifically that they would like to see

1771
01:24:30,179 --> 01:24:32,880
more of an interaction at that

1772
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:34,860
particular meeting we listened to what

1773
01:24:34,860 --> 01:24:36,360
people had to say they were you know

1774
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,580
they gave their opinions thoughts

1775
01:24:38,580 --> 01:24:40,500
experiences which I thought was very

1776
01:24:40,500 --> 01:24:43,500
important so but what what was

1777
01:24:43,500 --> 01:24:45,480
articulated at the Slick meeting from

1778
01:24:45,480 --> 01:24:46,800
the members that were there that they

1779
01:24:46,800 --> 01:24:49,080
wouldn't want to have more of a back and

1780
01:24:49,080 --> 01:24:50,940
forth that they you know say what they

1781
01:24:50,940 --> 01:24:53,699
exam saying us you know have a to

1782
01:24:53,699 --> 01:24:55,500
actually engage in dialogue as opposed

1783
01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:58,380
to the um how we how we presented the

1784
01:24:58,380 --> 01:25:01,320
town hall I don't think

1785
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:03,000
there would be any opposition we would

1786
01:25:03,000 --> 01:25:04,020
just have to figure out what that would

1787
01:25:04,020 --> 01:25:05,219
really look like and I'm not sure how

1788
01:25:05,219 --> 01:25:07,260
that would look in town hall format but

1789
01:25:07,260 --> 01:25:09,420
I wanted to bring that forward and also

1790
01:25:09,420 --> 01:25:10,860
during the feedback that was given at

1791
01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:12,360
that meeting we got a lot of positive

1792
01:25:12,360 --> 01:25:14,280
feedback people were happy that it

1793
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:16,380
happened and thought that it went well

1794
01:25:16,380 --> 01:25:18,480
and I will say not that I expected

1795
01:25:18,480 --> 01:25:20,159
anything different

1796
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:21,719
um that there was you know there was

1797
01:25:21,719 --> 01:25:23,040
respect everybody respected the other

1798
01:25:23,040 --> 01:25:24,600
person's opinion it didn't get it was

1799
01:25:24,600 --> 01:25:27,360
not controversial as someone who tried

1800
01:25:27,360 --> 01:25:29,159
to kind of imply in a meeting I was in

1801
01:25:29,159 --> 01:25:30,420
recently I'm like that didn't happen it

1802
01:25:30,420 --> 01:25:32,460
was not this it wasn't that it was just

1803
01:25:32,460 --> 01:25:34,920
this is where I stand and this is how I

1804
01:25:34,920 --> 01:25:36,900
see it and this is you know where I

1805
01:25:36,900 --> 01:25:38,340
stand in South I see and like I always

1806
01:25:38,340 --> 01:25:40,320
say how you see it depends on where you

1807
01:25:40,320 --> 01:25:42,540
sit so we got to see both sides and how

1808
01:25:42,540 --> 01:25:44,820
they saw it and um and I think they were

1809
01:25:44,820 --> 01:25:46,140
came people came away with an

1810
01:25:46,140 --> 01:25:47,940
appreciation for how the other person

1811
01:25:47,940 --> 01:25:50,280
saw something they may not have had had

1812
01:25:50,280 --> 01:25:53,219
they not had to inherited firsthand from

1813
01:25:53,219 --> 01:25:55,920
the other person's account so as we move

1814
01:25:55,920 --> 01:25:58,260
forward on to taking consideration all

1815
01:25:58,260 --> 01:25:59,940
the feedback that we've gotten whether

1816
01:25:59,940 --> 01:26:01,020
it's at the meeting the follow-up

1817
01:26:01,020 --> 01:26:04,920
meeting slick head and and people can

1818
01:26:04,920 --> 01:26:06,780
still you know give their input to

1819
01:26:06,780 --> 01:26:08,639
council members and council members of

1820
01:26:08,639 --> 01:26:11,460
course are very much encouraged to give

1821
01:26:11,460 --> 01:26:13,679
their input because it's a very serious

1822
01:26:13,679 --> 01:26:14,940
problem that we have we're having here

1823
01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:17,159
in the city and so we want to make sure

1824
01:26:17,159 --> 01:26:20,000
that we're ongoing in terms of

1825
01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:22,980
addressing it

1826
01:26:22,980 --> 01:26:26,040
so Mr Williams you'll follow up with the

1827
01:26:26,040 --> 01:26:28,199
notes

1828
01:26:28,199 --> 01:26:31,970
any other discussion regarding this

1829
01:26:31,980 --> 01:26:34,020
anything else to copy for uh City

1830
01:26:34,020 --> 01:26:36,950
development and planning

1831
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:40,020
if not on a motion to adjourn so moved

1832
01:26:40,020 --> 01:26:52,689
second all those in favor

1833
01:26:52,699 --> 01:26:55,440
okay gotcha um I'd like to call our

1834
01:26:55,440 --> 01:26:57,179
daughter cover my operations we have

1835
01:26:57,179 --> 01:26:58,320
four

1836
01:26:58,320 --> 01:27:01,199
items on the agenda um

1837
01:27:01,199 --> 01:27:03,420
first or we're going to call a

1838
01:27:03,420 --> 01:27:06,179
discussion regarding the new Schenectady

1839
01:27:06,179 --> 01:27:07,500
uh

1840
01:27:07,500 --> 01:27:09,600
because try teaching by Mr O'Neil

1841
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,600
president workfield thank you as you

1842
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:14,820
know Mr Gold Neal came to see us a

1843
01:27:14,820 --> 01:27:16,560
couple of weeks ago and did a

1844
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:19,620
presentation on new Schenectady and we

1845
01:27:19,620 --> 01:27:22,199
didn't take any formal action and he

1846
01:27:22,199 --> 01:27:24,540
then reached out to me and said that you

1847
01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:26,880
know he really wanted some things really

1848
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:29,280
specific and concrete from the council

1849
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:32,699
so he's here again tonight to just say

1850
01:27:32,699 --> 01:27:34,380
that and because we didn't have any

1851
01:27:34,380 --> 01:27:35,760
there was no formal action taken we

1852
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,280
discussed it I can tell you he said that

1853
01:27:38,280 --> 01:27:40,199
he didn't feel like he got much feedback

1854
01:27:40,199 --> 01:27:43,500
so he's back tonight to kind of

1855
01:27:43,500 --> 01:27:46,320
articulate to us exactly what he would

1856
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:48,739
like to see the comments have happened

1857
01:27:48,739 --> 01:27:51,060
well maybe not let me see if I don't

1858
01:27:51,060 --> 01:27:53,760
know okay for the camera okay here we

1859
01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:54,719
are

1860
01:27:54,719 --> 01:27:56,639
I'm back tonight because I really would

1861
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,800
like to get a sense from the Schenectady

1862
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:00,659
city council about how you feel about

1863
01:28:00,659 --> 01:28:04,199
this the whole purpose of our effort was

1864
01:28:04,199 --> 01:28:06,659
to gain reputation for Schenectady

1865
01:28:06,659 --> 01:28:09,000
that's what we started with a long time

1866
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,940
ago over the last 30 years A lot has

1867
01:28:11,940 --> 01:28:14,040
happened and in the past few weeks

1868
01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,139
there's a lot has happened we have

1869
01:28:16,139 --> 01:28:17,239
finally

1870
01:28:17,239 --> 01:28:21,480
decided to work with a with a plan that

1871
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:23,699
would bring our reputation back the

1872
01:28:23,699 --> 01:28:25,860
theme that we have picked is new

1873
01:28:25,860 --> 01:28:29,159
Schenectady and we have we are in the

1874
01:28:29,159 --> 01:28:31,679
process of finalizing a major billboard

1875
01:28:31,679 --> 01:28:35,120
campaign that will basically say we are

1876
01:28:35,120 --> 01:28:39,000
new Schenectady we have been talking

1877
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,760
with CBS about programming there and

1878
01:28:41,760 --> 01:28:43,199
they're very excited about the

1879
01:28:43,199 --> 01:28:45,719
opportunity not only for Schenectady but

1880
01:28:45,719 --> 01:28:48,360
for the opportunity it gives them as a

1881
01:28:48,360 --> 01:28:50,520
business to promote their business in

1882
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,260
Schenectady to promote Schenectady

1883
01:28:52,260 --> 01:28:55,199
businesses we've also talked with said

1884
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:57,600
newspaper and they too are very excited

1885
01:28:57,600 --> 01:28:59,639
about the opportunity of promoting

1886
01:28:59,639 --> 01:29:02,159
Schenectady just the other day a couple

1887
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:03,600
days ago I got some interesting

1888
01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:07,260
information as we get the ceg the center

1889
01:29:07,260 --> 01:29:09,239
for economic growth

1890
01:29:09,239 --> 01:29:12,600
report looks at growth gross national

1891
01:29:12,600 --> 01:29:15,420
product if you will for the region 218

1892
01:29:15,420 --> 01:29:17,400
counties in Northeastern United States

1893
01:29:17,400 --> 01:29:19,679
this is over the past few months this

1894
01:29:19,679 --> 01:29:22,139
has just come out Schenectady County had

1895
01:29:22,139 --> 01:29:24,600
the second highest increase of 8.2

1896
01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:27,420
percent in New York state

1897
01:29:27,420 --> 01:29:31,320
the entire Northeast we rank 15. the

1898
01:29:31,320 --> 01:29:33,239
other very positive finding is that our

1899
01:29:33,239 --> 01:29:35,340
growth was across the board in real

1900
01:29:35,340 --> 01:29:37,920
estate Hospitality tourism manufacturing

1901
01:29:37,920 --> 01:29:40,139
research and development so what's

1902
01:29:40,139 --> 01:29:43,800
happening here is is really hitting some

1903
01:29:43,800 --> 01:29:46,080
very strong cars we did a market

1904
01:29:46,080 --> 01:29:49,739
research with about 500 people this past

1905
01:29:49,739 --> 01:29:52,560
weekend here's what we discovered we

1906
01:29:52,560 --> 01:29:57,360
discovered that 70 percent are aware of

1907
01:29:57,360 --> 01:30:00,060
what's going on in this community so

1908
01:30:00,060 --> 01:30:02,159
people do know there are always people

1909
01:30:02,159 --> 01:30:04,260
in the community who don't have a clue

1910
01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:06,239
and I'm always surprised how do you

1911
01:30:06,239 --> 01:30:07,920
drive around this community and not know

1912
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:10,199
that there's good stuff going on we got

1913
01:30:10,199 --> 01:30:12,719
problems but we're working on them to

1914
01:30:12,719 --> 01:30:14,060
see that you are

1915
01:30:14,060 --> 01:30:17,940
also we got information that the female

1916
01:30:17,940 --> 01:30:21,060
sanctity feel very strongly 70 percent

1917
01:30:21,060 --> 01:30:23,159
feel that we should be promoting

1918
01:30:23,159 --> 01:30:25,800
ourselves and telling people about what

1919
01:30:25,800 --> 01:30:28,860
we're doing so that's been my role ever

1920
01:30:28,860 --> 01:30:31,920
since I took this responsibility I don't

1921
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,659
get paid a heck of a lot it's a matter

1922
01:30:33,659 --> 01:30:35,760
of fact I don't get anything but the

1923
01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:38,880
opportunity really was for us to create

1924
01:30:38,880 --> 01:30:41,520
a reputation for ourselves and I think

1925
01:30:41,520 --> 01:30:43,139
we're now at the point where we're ready

1926
01:30:43,139 --> 01:30:46,020
to go and the theme of new Schenectady

1927
01:30:46,020 --> 01:30:48,420
was the very best one that we could

1928
01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:50,880
choose because new can get dropped off

1929
01:30:50,880 --> 01:30:53,639
at any time if we should so choose but

1930
01:30:53,639 --> 01:30:55,560
by using the word new it's going to

1931
01:30:55,560 --> 01:30:59,100
cause people to ask the question what

1932
01:30:59,100 --> 01:31:00,719
are you talking about what do you mean

1933
01:31:00,719 --> 01:31:03,179
and so that's what I want to try to do

1934
01:31:03,179 --> 01:31:05,100
I've been moving ahead we've got a

1935
01:31:05,100 --> 01:31:07,560
beautiful billboard campaign

1936
01:31:07,560 --> 01:31:11,040
CBS wrgb is excited I talk to those

1937
01:31:11,040 --> 01:31:12,360
people and said you guys forgot what

1938
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:15,659
major famous and they but we're talking

1939
01:31:15,659 --> 01:31:17,280
about I said television was invented

1940
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:19,020
here you don't tell anybody about it

1941
01:31:19,020 --> 01:31:21,120
you've got lots of things to be to be

1942
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:24,060
famous for and so here we are and I

1943
01:31:24,060 --> 01:31:27,060
really like to know also I think you all

1944
01:31:27,060 --> 01:31:29,340
know that one of the things that we did

1945
01:31:29,340 --> 01:31:31,679
we decided to write a book about what

1946
01:31:31,679 --> 01:31:33,659
happened here think about it a history

1947
01:31:33,659 --> 01:31:36,179
book on what's happened in Schenectady

1948
01:31:36,179 --> 01:31:38,340
over the past 30 years

1949
01:31:38,340 --> 01:31:40,500
that's pretty exciting the author is

1950
01:31:40,500 --> 01:31:42,719
Phil Patrick he's a famous local author

1951
01:31:42,719 --> 01:31:45,900
he's he's a professor at College teaches

1952
01:31:45,900 --> 01:31:48,900
writing and he has written the book and

1953
01:31:48,900 --> 01:31:51,000
as a matter of fact he had given me some

1954
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:53,100
copies that I'd like to share with with

1955
01:31:53,100 --> 01:31:55,500
the council so you too can read the

1956
01:31:55,500 --> 01:31:57,120
history of Schenectady what's actually

1957
01:31:57,120 --> 01:32:00,300
happened here over the past 30 years I

1958
01:32:00,300 --> 01:32:02,159
really would appreciate your feedback on

1959
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:04,380
it I think it's it's quite an

1960
01:32:04,380 --> 01:32:07,139
achievement so my question is do you

1961
01:32:07,139 --> 01:32:10,679
support the idea of us working hard to

1962
01:32:10,679 --> 01:32:13,860
promote new Schenectady we are new

1963
01:32:13,860 --> 01:32:15,960
Schenectady and talking about ourselves

1964
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:19,500
as new Schenectady do you support that

1965
01:32:19,500 --> 01:32:21,540
position

1966
01:32:21,540 --> 01:32:24,679
don't everybody answer once

1967
01:32:24,679 --> 01:32:28,620
so I perch okay so

1968
01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:31,199
um I guess I would start by saying um

1969
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:33,840
there's nothing more powerful than a

1970
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:36,780
narrative about a city or a place or

1971
01:32:36,780 --> 01:32:39,360
even circumstances and I think that you

1972
01:32:39,360 --> 01:32:41,219
know I have friends and family that

1973
01:32:41,219 --> 01:32:43,139
don't live too far from here but when

1974
01:32:43,139 --> 01:32:44,820
they come to visit

1975
01:32:44,820 --> 01:32:46,800
um have been like

1976
01:32:46,800 --> 01:32:49,560
bring them downtown to a show and you

1977
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:50,880
know they're they're very impressed with

1978
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:53,820
uh our city here and you know I've heard

1979
01:32:53,820 --> 01:32:55,620
that over and over yeah that's one of

1980
01:32:55,620 --> 01:32:57,360
the things that drives me yeah so I

1981
01:32:57,360 --> 01:32:59,159
would so though I'm encouraged when I

1982
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:01,620
hear they're like oh that's wow then it

1983
01:33:01,620 --> 01:33:02,880
does kind of beg the question of well

1984
01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:05,219
what did you think about Schenectady you

1985
01:33:05,219 --> 01:33:08,880
know for you to be so surprised that this is your experience now so I

1986
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,800
think that you know just those type of

1987
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,120
exchanges and the fact that you're

1988
01:33:12,120 --> 01:33:14,699
saying that you've had a similar uh

1989
01:33:14,699 --> 01:33:18,420
conversations kind of um you know it's a

1990
01:33:18,420 --> 01:33:20,159
testament to the fact that we need to

1991
01:33:20,159 --> 01:33:22,199
make sure that we're better at telling

1992
01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:24,420
our story so I think that was very clear

1993
01:33:24,420 --> 01:33:26,760
in the research the community the people

1994
01:33:26,760 --> 01:33:29,760
that we researched to understand 70 said

1995
01:33:29,760 --> 01:33:31,380
you need really to promote yourselves

1996
01:33:31,380 --> 01:33:34,380
better yeah yeah yeah so um so I

1997
01:33:34,380 --> 01:33:35,880
appreciate all the work that's happening

1998
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:37,440
in Schenectady

1999
01:33:37,440 --> 01:33:39,420
um I think that yeah any anything that

2000
01:33:39,420 --> 01:33:41,219
will allow us to better tell that story

2001
01:33:41,219 --> 01:33:43,080
to communicate to the people the type of

2002
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:44,699
community that we are and I think even

2003
01:33:44,699 --> 01:33:46,320
going back to our our earlier

2004
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:47,219
conversation

2005
01:33:47,219 --> 01:33:49,139
right down towards the town hall we just

2006
01:33:49,139 --> 01:33:51,780
had I left feeling we are a community of

2007
01:33:51,780 --> 01:33:53,880
solutions you know people then just come

2008
01:33:53,880 --> 01:33:55,080
with complaints people came with

2009
01:33:55,080 --> 01:33:57,300
Solutions suggestions and pledging you

2010
01:33:57,300 --> 01:33:59,639
know some level of support so yeah I I

2011
01:33:59,639 --> 01:34:02,639
you know and I I definitely uh support

2012
01:34:02,639 --> 01:34:06,000
uh the idea of branding ourselves

2013
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:08,040
um in a way that is engaging her name is

2014
01:34:08,040 --> 01:34:10,440
I'm sorry I'm I'm councilman Farley okay

2015
01:34:10,440 --> 01:34:14,719
yeah yes yes new councilman

2016
01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:19,570
good for you

2017
01:34:19,580 --> 01:34:33,129
no worries anybody else got a feeling

2018
01:34:33,139 --> 01:34:36,239
do you support this and right words

2019
01:34:36,239 --> 01:34:38,639
matter and I say to our entire Community

2020
01:34:38,639 --> 01:34:40,739
we're not saying Schenectady is perfect

2021
01:34:40,739 --> 01:34:42,780
this is not perfect Schenectady it's new

2022
01:34:42,780 --> 01:34:44,820
Schenectady and I appreciate you trying

2023
01:34:44,820 --> 01:34:48,060
to uh be our biggest cheerleader so

2024
01:34:48,060 --> 01:34:49,020
that's something that a lot of people

2025
01:34:49,020 --> 01:34:50,880
struggle with I think now is the perfect

2026
01:34:50,880 --> 01:34:54,360
time to uh take a pause and appreciate

2027
01:34:54,360 --> 01:34:57,120
the the strides that have been made and

2028
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:00,060
I can absolutely see our our vocal

2029
01:35:00,060 --> 01:35:01,980
Community getting behind that

2030
01:35:01,980 --> 01:35:04,260
um I I do not think that it is a

2031
01:35:04,260 --> 01:35:06,920
far-fetched to say that uh

2032
01:35:06,920 --> 01:35:08,960
trying to

2033
01:35:08,960 --> 01:35:11,699
differentiate between the the old

2034
01:35:11,699 --> 01:35:13,500
perspective of how people use

2035
01:35:13,500 --> 01:35:14,760
Schenectady is something that I battle

2036
01:35:14,760 --> 01:35:16,620
with day in and day out people come here

2037
01:35:16,620 --> 01:35:19,380
and they are the assumptions of coming

2038
01:35:19,380 --> 01:35:21,540
to an inner city and it's frustrating

2039
01:35:21,540 --> 01:35:23,820
um but I think the way that we combat

2040
01:35:23,820 --> 01:35:25,620
that is identifying how we've made

2041
01:35:25,620 --> 01:35:27,300
improvements in such areas and how we're

2042
01:35:27,300 --> 01:35:29,460
continuing to build on this new

2043
01:35:29,460 --> 01:35:30,960
narrative so yep I want to support

2044
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:36,169
everybody thank you sir anybody else

2045
01:35:36,179 --> 01:35:37,500
yes

2046
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:40,380
hello how are you

2047
01:35:40,380 --> 01:35:42,719
um I think that first I want to say

2048
01:35:42,719 --> 01:35:44,520
thank you for everything that you've

2049
01:35:44,520 --> 01:35:47,100
done already to this point in terms of

2050
01:35:47,100 --> 01:35:50,159
trying to boost our reputation and get

2051
01:35:50,159 --> 01:35:52,500
the word out to folks that it is a new

2052
01:35:52,500 --> 01:35:54,060
Schenectady

2053
01:35:54,060 --> 01:35:55,500
um and I think anything that we can do

2054
01:35:55,500 --> 01:35:59,100
to try to as you and I have discussed

2055
01:35:59,100 --> 01:36:02,400
try to enhance our reputation and bring

2056
01:36:02,400 --> 01:36:04,800
more positive spin to what has been

2057
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:07,260
happening here over these last couple of

2058
01:36:07,260 --> 01:36:08,580
decades

2059
01:36:08,580 --> 01:36:10,679
um is is very powerful and I appreciate

2060
01:36:10,679 --> 01:36:11,820
all the work that you've been putting

2061
01:36:11,820 --> 01:36:15,060
into it any other council members have

2062
01:36:15,060 --> 01:36:16,760
something to say yes

2063
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:21,179
thank you good evening so absolutely as

2064
01:36:21,179 --> 01:36:24,120
far as the new Schenectady here to me

2065
01:36:24,120 --> 01:36:27,000
Schenectady Schenectady and has a

2066
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:29,159
special place in my heart I thank you

2067
01:36:29,159 --> 01:36:32,580
for everything that you do as far as

2068
01:36:32,580 --> 01:36:36,380
new I'll go with it

2069
01:36:36,380 --> 01:36:39,719
but it's connected and it'll always be

2070
01:36:39,719 --> 01:36:43,260
Schenectady and um it has a lot of

2071
01:36:43,260 --> 01:36:44,219
history

2072
01:36:44,219 --> 01:36:46,679
and has a lot of good people and has a

2073
01:36:46,679 --> 01:36:49,260
lot of great businesses and

2074
01:36:49,260 --> 01:36:52,090
um I'll go with that new and improved

2075
01:36:52,090 --> 01:36:54,260
[Music]

2076
01:36:54,260 --> 01:36:57,360
as a marketing tool which we know you're

2077
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,300
a genius at so I don't know if I go that

2078
01:37:00,300 --> 01:37:03,560
far not even my mother would go that far

2079
01:37:03,560 --> 01:37:07,020
so I'm I'm I'm I'm I mean I mean if

2080
01:37:07,020 --> 01:37:08,400
you're willing to put the time and

2081
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:11,880
effort into this that I mean as long as

2082
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,620
we just remember it's always ice guys

2083
01:37:13,620 --> 01:37:16,380
I've done most of the creative work I am

2084
01:37:16,380 --> 01:37:23,400
our advertising I have done that I've worked with Sean Gonzalez he's a price jumper he's offered to help

2085
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:26,340
with the Billboards and so forth so I

2086
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:28,020
have gotten some help but most of it I'm

2087
01:37:28,020 --> 01:37:30,960
doing myself the best part anybody else

2088
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,780
got a comment sir thank you thank you

2089
01:37:33,780 --> 01:37:35,520
what are you doing and I like in

2090
01:37:35,520 --> 01:37:37,260
Schenectady I'm very supportive of the

2091
01:37:37,260 --> 01:37:38,820
work that you're doing and highlighting

2092
01:37:38,820 --> 01:37:40,260
the positive things that's happening in

2093
01:37:40,260 --> 01:37:42,120
Schenectady so I want to thank you and

2094
01:37:42,120 --> 01:37:44,100
I'm very supportive of it and whatever

2095
01:37:44,100 --> 01:37:45,659
help I can

2096
01:37:45,659 --> 01:37:48,540
me I'm glad to help in any way possible

2097
01:37:48,540 --> 01:37:50,340
to help you promote Schenectady and

2098
01:37:50,340 --> 01:37:51,900
Schenectady is here for all of us thank

2099
01:37:51,900 --> 01:37:53,520
you thank you

2100
01:37:53,520 --> 01:37:57,659
councilman thank you I think it's been

2101
01:37:57,659 --> 01:37:59,100
mostly said so

2102
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:01,980
um say what you have to say sure I just

2103
01:38:01,980 --> 01:38:02,780
did

2104
01:38:02,780 --> 01:38:05,580
so I wish you well and I think it'll go

2105
01:38:05,580 --> 01:38:07,880
very well and you think it's a good idea

2106
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:10,920
I think it's something that will help

2107
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:12,480
with the marketing in the city and

2108
01:38:12,480 --> 01:38:15,300
that's a good thing okay okay I got what

2109
01:38:15,300 --> 01:38:18,000
I needed a box of books I'm going to

2110
01:38:18,000 --> 01:38:19,940
open and leave it for you

2111
01:38:19,940 --> 01:38:22,739
but I I think it's important to kind of

2112
01:38:22,739 --> 01:38:24,540
push back and get a clear answer I think

2113
01:38:24,540 --> 01:38:27,120
everyone else and Mr Gold into your

2114
01:38:27,120 --> 01:38:29,040
credit is asked everybody my friends

2115
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:31,400
call me

2116
01:38:31,400 --> 01:38:35,120
thank you Neil golden

2117
01:38:35,120 --> 01:38:37,199
I think it's appropriate to give me yes

2118
01:38:37,199 --> 01:38:39,179
or no answer so I would like to get you

2119
01:38:39,179 --> 01:38:41,780
we just got a struggle so I think

2120
01:38:41,780 --> 01:38:44,280
I'm gonna take a vote

2121
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:45,380
beautiful

2122
01:38:45,380 --> 01:38:47,400
I don't know if that's exactly how that

2123
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:50,280
works I just wanted I'd like to go in

2124
01:38:50,280 --> 01:38:51,840
from our mayor

2125
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:55,570
I support it

2126
01:38:55,580 --> 01:38:59,880
yes so um I think that we have to have

2127
01:38:59,880 --> 01:39:02,219
my story so the full support of the

2128
01:39:02,219 --> 01:39:04,139
council the question becomes what that

2129
01:39:04,139 --> 01:39:05,340
support looks like do we offer

2130
01:39:05,340 --> 01:39:06,420
resolution

2131
01:39:06,420 --> 01:39:08,159
or do we just offer a lot of support

2132
01:39:08,159 --> 01:39:10,260
because as I had a conversation with the

2133
01:39:10,260 --> 01:39:12,780
mayor today and he was bringing up some

2134
01:39:12,780 --> 01:39:14,219
you know all the things that have

2135
01:39:14,219 --> 01:39:15,600
happened that all of us know the things

2136
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:17,100
that how things have improved downtown

2137
01:39:17,100 --> 01:39:19,380
the development all the many many things

2138
01:39:19,380 --> 01:39:21,420
that could be part of it which just to

2139
01:39:21,420 --> 01:39:23,460
be clear we're not changing the name of

2140
01:39:23,460 --> 01:39:25,860
the city right simply um using his

2141
01:39:25,860 --> 01:39:28,500
marketing to say Schenectady is new and

2142
01:39:28,500 --> 01:39:30,060
all the things that have happened over

2143
01:39:30,060 --> 01:39:32,219
time used it when they said and retired

2144
01:39:32,219 --> 01:39:34,320
and then it went away but what happened

2145
01:39:34,320 --> 01:39:36,120
to their sales when they said it was

2146
01:39:36,120 --> 01:39:38,460
amazing and it will happen here too

2147
01:39:38,460 --> 01:39:40,380
people will ask all of us what do you

2148
01:39:40,380 --> 01:39:42,600
mean no and then you explain to them and

2149
01:39:42,600 --> 01:39:44,520
what people are telling you that's what

2150
01:39:44,520 --> 01:39:47,760
I found out so okay I also think it's

2151
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:49,980
noteworthy that we don't you know this

2152
01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:51,480
isn't just you know

2153
01:39:51,480 --> 01:39:54,179
um a shiny new name this is really a

2154
01:39:54,179 --> 01:39:56,460
name that's reflecting the work that has

2155
01:39:56,460 --> 01:39:58,739
already been done and that's continuing

2156
01:39:58,739 --> 01:39:59,820
to happen I think that's a really

2157
01:39:59,820 --> 01:40:01,260
important distinction

2158
01:40:01,260 --> 01:40:03,420
um because it's not just a name it's it

2159
01:40:03,420 --> 01:40:06,420
we're we're not renaming it we're we're

2160
01:40:06,420 --> 01:40:07,800
saying that we want to make sure that

2161
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:10,500
when we reference Schenectady we include

2162
01:40:10,500 --> 01:40:12,360
the Renaissance that's happening and

2163
01:40:12,360 --> 01:40:16,930
that's continuing to happen so

2164
01:40:16,940 --> 01:40:19,500
discussion on that

2165
01:40:19,500 --> 01:40:21,239
so um

2166
01:40:21,239 --> 01:40:24,300
so the question becomes to be supported

2167
01:40:24,300 --> 01:40:26,940
in form of a resolution or a letter of

2168
01:40:26,940 --> 01:40:29,689
support right

2169
01:40:29,699 --> 01:40:31,320
to say we don't have to have a letter

2170
01:40:31,320 --> 01:40:33,910
yeah

2171
01:40:33,920 --> 01:40:36,840
I can see your faces and I can see how

2172
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,000
you're responding and every time we've

2173
01:40:39,000 --> 01:40:41,699
talked to any organization group of

2174
01:40:41,699 --> 01:40:43,620
people there always have been a series

2175
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:46,440
of smiles and I think the fact that we

2176
01:40:46,440 --> 01:40:48,120
can see what's already happened here

2177
01:40:48,120 --> 01:40:50,639
speaks for us the fact that so many

2178
01:40:50,639 --> 01:40:53,219
people want us to to talk about it and

2179
01:40:53,219 --> 01:40:58,260
show our pride is going to help this community to show itself is a

2180
01:40:58,260 --> 01:41:00,719
better place look I was born here in

2181
01:41:00,719 --> 01:41:03,320
1937.

2182
01:41:03,320 --> 01:41:05,960
who's the mathematician figured it out

2183
01:41:05,960 --> 01:41:07,520
okay

2184
01:41:07,520 --> 01:41:09,360
but thank you for your attention

2185
01:41:09,360 --> 01:41:11,480
everybody thank you

2186
01:41:11,480 --> 01:41:13,620
okay well thank you for coming back

2187
01:41:13,620 --> 01:41:15,659
thank you everybody thank you you're

2188
01:41:15,659 --> 01:41:16,739
welcome

2189
01:41:16,739 --> 01:41:19,139
okay so our next item is the civilian

2190
01:41:19,139 --> 01:41:21,260
police review board or

2191
01:41:21,260 --> 01:41:24,420
mayor McCarthy no no we're not going oh

2192
01:41:24,420 --> 01:41:29,689
we're not there yet number one okay

2193
01:41:29,699 --> 01:41:37,010
uh

2194
01:41:37,020 --> 01:41:47,629
Christopher Martin for uh cph

2195
01:41:47,639 --> 01:41:50,460
hello again uh so in connection with the

2196
01:41:50,460 --> 01:41:53,760
zoning changes in this DIY proposed with

2197
01:41:53,760 --> 01:41:55,320
respect to the bank facilities and

2198
01:41:55,320 --> 01:41:57,800
private clubs and lodges we are also

2199
01:41:57,800 --> 01:41:59,880
proposing an upbeat to the city

2200
01:41:59,880 --> 01:42:02,520
certificate of use process for those

2201
01:42:02,520 --> 01:42:04,199
that are aware of the certificate use

2202
01:42:04,199 --> 01:42:06,119
process is something that most

2203
01:42:06,119 --> 01:42:07,800
businesses many businesses are required

2204
01:42:07,800 --> 01:42:09,060
to go through in the city it's about

2205
01:42:09,060 --> 01:42:11,580
some kind of law environment and it's

2206
01:42:11,580 --> 01:42:13,380
specifically for purposes of ensuring

2207
01:42:13,380 --> 01:42:15,300
that those businesses are operating with

2208
01:42:15,300 --> 01:42:16,860
all those correct approvals if they have

2209
01:42:16,860 --> 01:42:18,780
their their health department permitting

2210
01:42:18,780 --> 01:42:21,000
and their liquor licenses and it's

2211
01:42:21,000 --> 01:42:22,760
specifically geared before

2212
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:24,320
restaurants

2213
01:42:24,320 --> 01:42:27,780
bars any premise for or alcohol is being

2214
01:42:27,780 --> 01:42:29,659
served on the premise

2215
01:42:29,659 --> 01:42:32,960
convenience stores and second hand

2216
01:42:32,960 --> 01:42:34,580
dealers

2217
01:42:34,580 --> 01:42:37,440
so those businesses all come they make

2218
01:42:37,440 --> 01:42:40,560
an application they support their all of

2219
01:42:40,560 --> 01:42:41,460
their documentation insurance

2220
01:42:41,460 --> 01:42:45,480
requirements and uh they um

2221
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:47,699
can get a certificate of use with the

2222
01:42:47,699 --> 01:42:49,739
changes especially allowing banquet

2223
01:42:49,739 --> 01:42:51,119
facilities now in all commercial

2224
01:42:51,119 --> 01:42:53,520
districts arguably under the security

2225
01:42:53,520 --> 01:42:56,840
use process any any business that was

2226
01:42:56,840 --> 01:43:00,000
providing food on site or alcohol I'd

2227
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,920
say would already need to require but we

2228
01:43:01,920 --> 01:43:03,360
thought it would make sense to provide

2229
01:43:03,360 --> 01:43:05,760
some clarification and ordinance to make

2230
01:43:05,760 --> 01:43:07,860
sure that the public was very crystal

2231
01:43:07,860 --> 01:43:09,600
clear that those businesses would be

2232
01:43:09,600 --> 01:43:12,119
required so we've added banquet

2233
01:43:12,119 --> 01:43:15,139
facilities to the certificate of use

2234
01:43:15,139 --> 01:43:22,629
chapter for the nuisance ordinance in addition to

2235
01:43:22,639 --> 01:43:26,400
private clubs or lodges while we were

2236
01:43:26,400 --> 01:43:28,500
amending the ordinance we we thought

2237
01:43:28,500 --> 01:43:31,040
that we would also add

2238
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:34,139
tobacco and cannabis retail and

2239
01:43:34,139 --> 01:43:38,060
consumption lounges as a newer use that

2240
01:43:38,060 --> 01:43:41,100
hasn't previously been contemplated and

2241
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:43,739
that included modifying a portion of the

2242
01:43:43,739 --> 01:43:47,699
ordinance as cannabis is now illegal and

2243
01:43:47,699 --> 01:43:49,260
our ordinance contemplated that being

2244
01:43:49,260 --> 01:43:52,560
needed so we've made those changes there

2245
01:43:52,560 --> 01:43:54,480
was one recommendation that I did

2246
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:55,980
receive with respect to the definition

2247
01:43:55,980 --> 01:43:58,020
of the cannabis

2248
01:43:58,020 --> 01:44:00,060
and tobacco construction lounges and

2249
01:44:00,060 --> 01:44:02,040
that was to remove the Anwar language

2250
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:04,940
and just stage four so it would be

2251
01:44:04,940 --> 01:44:08,100
tobacco or cannabis retail and

2252
01:44:08,100 --> 01:44:13,490
consumption

2253
01:44:13,500 --> 01:44:15,480
[Music]

2254
01:44:15,480 --> 01:44:16,460
okay

2255
01:44:16,460 --> 01:44:22,790
any any questions comments on this

2256
01:44:22,800 --> 01:44:31,370
language

2257
01:44:31,380 --> 01:44:32,340
um because you just can't go over that

2258
01:44:32,340 --> 01:44:34,560
again so I wasn't clear but uh some of

2259
01:44:34,560 --> 01:44:35,639
the feedback I got was that that was

2260
01:44:35,639 --> 01:44:36,719
confusing

2261
01:44:36,719 --> 01:44:39,000
um it might be a little confusing the

2262
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,699
idea was that if you had cannabis and

2263
01:44:41,699 --> 01:44:44,159
tobacco or you were cannabis or tobacco

2264
01:44:44,159 --> 01:44:46,139
that really requires good use but really

2265
01:44:46,139 --> 01:44:49,199
the more capture both okay even if they

2266
01:44:49,199 --> 01:44:51,179
were in one business if they had one or

2267
01:44:51,179 --> 01:44:54,119
the other capture both so it's just a a

2268
01:44:54,119 --> 01:44:56,880
language question and that would include

2269
01:44:56,880 --> 01:44:58,619
game show

2270
01:44:58,619 --> 01:45:02,340
um so vape shops smoke shops cannabis

2271
01:45:02,340 --> 01:45:05,100
retail where cannabis is cannabis Sports

2272
01:45:05,100 --> 01:45:08,480
battle are the primary item being so

2273
01:45:08,480 --> 01:45:14,149
consume documents

2274
01:45:14,159 --> 01:45:24,370
um

2275
01:45:24,380 --> 01:45:26,239
so

2276
01:45:26,239 --> 01:45:28,460
obviously one of the

2277
01:45:28,460 --> 01:45:31,440
businesses that currently the code uh

2278
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:34,679
anticipates needs to get a certificate to be used as a convenience

2279
01:45:34,679 --> 01:45:38,040
store I've noticed something that we've

2280
01:45:38,040 --> 01:45:39,239
heard of I don't believe that there's

2281
01:45:39,239 --> 01:45:40,980
been a lot of vape shops and smoke shops

2282
01:45:40,980 --> 01:45:43,080
that have been opening and they do not

2283
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:44,520
necessarily fall within the definition

2284
01:45:44,520 --> 01:45:46,699
of convenience store the way we have it

2285
01:45:46,699 --> 01:45:51,619
defined in The Code by you know

2286
01:45:51,619 --> 01:45:55,619
by including Vape Shops and and smoke

2287
01:45:55,619 --> 01:45:59,460
shops and also these cannabis retail

2288
01:45:59,460 --> 01:46:02,639
consumption locations we are capturing

2289
01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:05,820
those businesses that you know they may

2290
01:46:05,820 --> 01:46:09,300
sell chips right and they may have you

2291
01:46:09,300 --> 01:46:10,739
know beverages but they don't fall

2292
01:46:10,739 --> 01:46:12,360
within the definition of convenience

2293
01:46:12,360 --> 01:46:15,420
store because they don't have the daily

2294
01:46:15,420 --> 01:46:17,159
um you know products that you might find

2295
01:46:17,159 --> 01:46:18,719
in convenience store which is what is

2296
01:46:18,719 --> 01:46:20,219
anticipated in the definition of

2297
01:46:20,219 --> 01:46:22,619
convenience store so part of that you

2298
01:46:22,619 --> 01:46:25,739
know I think is the pro the thought

2299
01:46:25,739 --> 01:46:28,619
process we have and including these

2300
01:46:28,619 --> 01:46:30,900
businesses and certainly they're a

2301
01:46:30,900 --> 01:46:33,840
concern for code enforcement purposes

2302
01:46:33,840 --> 01:46:36,800
and that's one of the um

2303
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:38,760
requirements after you get a certificate

2304
01:46:38,760 --> 01:46:40,380
of use is that you get a an inspection

2305
01:46:40,380 --> 01:46:41,820
of the premises to make sure that it's

2306
01:46:41,820 --> 01:46:43,020
safe because you're going to have people

2307
01:46:43,020 --> 01:46:44,880
from the public going there and

2308
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:48,860
potentially staying some time in there

2309
01:46:48,860 --> 01:46:52,199
so that was I think again part of part

2310
01:46:52,199 --> 01:46:54,060
of the thought process in terms of

2311
01:46:54,060 --> 01:46:56,159
banquet facilities and private clubs or

2312
01:46:56,159 --> 01:47:00,119
lodges is Mr Marty indicated we're

2313
01:47:00,119 --> 01:47:01,800
looking to change the zoning code as it

2314
01:47:01,800 --> 01:47:04,880
relates to that this is really

2315
01:47:04,880 --> 01:47:08,159
somewhat similar to you know a food

2316
01:47:08,159 --> 01:47:09,659
establishment when you talk about a

2317
01:47:09,659 --> 01:47:11,580
banquet facility in a private club or

2318
01:47:11,580 --> 01:47:14,100
Lodge and or a bar in a bar is any place

2319
01:47:14,100 --> 01:47:17,159
that serves alcohol so it doesn't mean a

2320
01:47:17,159 --> 01:47:19,320
bar in maybe the sense that we think of

2321
01:47:19,320 --> 01:47:21,900
a bar you know so if you serve alcohol

2322
01:47:21,900 --> 01:47:24,179
you're considered a bar under the code

2323
01:47:24,179 --> 01:47:27,300
so this makes it clearer since we're now

2324
01:47:27,300 --> 01:47:29,219
you know potentially going to allow

2325
01:47:29,219 --> 01:47:33,000
these facilities within the city to make

2326
01:47:33,000 --> 01:47:35,159
sure that it is completely understood

2327
01:47:35,159 --> 01:47:38,699
that they too um are subject to having

2328
01:47:38,699 --> 01:47:43,090
to get a certificate of use

2329
01:47:43,100 --> 01:47:45,960
we got it remember I got it go

2330
01:47:45,960 --> 01:47:49,910
um so what I was curious about is

2331
01:47:49,920 --> 01:47:52,139
how will this affect um existing

2332
01:47:52,139 --> 01:47:54,000
business like will there have to be code

2333
01:47:54,000 --> 01:47:55,980
enforcement going back to businesses

2334
01:47:55,980 --> 01:47:58,320
that are already operating or are they

2335
01:47:58,320 --> 01:48:01,199
what's your sense of businesses that are

2336
01:48:01,199 --> 01:48:03,239
existing out there that don't have the

2337
01:48:03,239 --> 01:48:05,159
certificate

2338
01:48:05,159 --> 01:48:07,440
um you see what I'm saying like so with

2339
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:09,060
respect to banking facilities and

2340
01:48:09,060 --> 01:48:11,760
private clubs and lodges if they are

2341
01:48:11,760 --> 01:48:14,639
already selling food or have alcohol on

2342
01:48:14,639 --> 01:48:15,900
the premise they would be required to

2343
01:48:15,900 --> 01:48:17,280
have a certificate to use some of the

2344
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:18,480
current code so even if you're doing

2345
01:48:18,480 --> 01:48:20,880
like a BYOB you still need a liquor

2346
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:22,860
license and you still need a certificate

2347
01:48:22,860 --> 01:48:25,139
of use from the city that's connected so

2348
01:48:25,139 --> 01:48:27,600
those businesses are already really

2349
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:30,119
required to get the certificate use

2350
01:48:30,119 --> 01:48:31,500
um there may be obviously we don't have

2351
01:48:31,500 --> 01:48:34,619
any cannabis retail yet so the only

2352
01:48:34,619 --> 01:48:37,800
businesses that may be existing uh are

2353
01:48:37,800 --> 01:48:39,900
the tobacco retail and consumption

2354
01:48:39,900 --> 01:48:42,780
lounges and the vape shops so there are

2355
01:48:42,780 --> 01:48:44,460
many of them throughout the city that do

2356
01:48:44,460 --> 01:48:46,800
not accurately have some pretty uses

2357
01:48:46,800 --> 01:48:48,600
that they were not captured as a

2358
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,900
convenience store

2359
01:48:50,900 --> 01:48:53,880
so how will

2360
01:48:53,880 --> 01:48:55,320
we

2361
01:48:55,320 --> 01:48:57,000
um be getting the word out and this is

2362
01:48:57,000 --> 01:48:59,940
for in public hearing I understand but

2363
01:48:59,940 --> 01:49:01,980
you know getting the word out to those

2364
01:49:01,980 --> 01:49:04,380
existing businesses and then is that a

2365
01:49:04,380 --> 01:49:06,119
code enforcement piece in terms of who's

2366
01:49:06,119 --> 01:49:09,300
going to go out there and okay that's a

2367
01:49:09,300 --> 01:49:11,219
great question the city council has

2368
01:49:11,219 --> 01:49:13,080
changed the code in the past related to

2369
01:49:13,080 --> 01:49:15,480
certificates of use it actually used to

2370
01:49:15,480 --> 01:49:18,179
be that the certificate of use was just

2371
01:49:18,179 --> 01:49:20,219
good you didn't have to renew it now you

2372
01:49:20,219 --> 01:49:22,560
have to renew it annually and

2373
01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:24,780
um in the past what has happened is code

2374
01:49:24,780 --> 01:49:26,460
enforcement has sent out letters to

2375
01:49:26,460 --> 01:49:27,840
businesses saying you need to have a

2376
01:49:27,840 --> 01:49:29,400
certificate of use and they've given

2377
01:49:29,400 --> 01:49:31,260
them a period of time to make sure that

2378
01:49:31,260 --> 01:49:33,840
they are responsive right

2379
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:36,060
um you know most of those businesses we

2380
01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:38,280
know their retail locations we know how

2381
01:49:38,280 --> 01:49:40,560
to you know send them mail so that they

2382
01:49:40,560 --> 01:49:42,000
actually receive it or would we already

2383
01:49:42,000 --> 01:49:43,199
have something on file because maybe

2384
01:49:43,199 --> 01:49:44,639
they pulled a permit in the past and we

2385
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:46,080
can send something directly to the

2386
01:49:46,080 --> 01:49:47,520
business owner

2387
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:51,119
um so we have we do send letters out to

2388
01:49:51,119 --> 01:49:52,739
let them know that's what's happened in

2389
01:49:52,739 --> 01:49:54,420
the past that's what I anticipate will

2390
01:49:54,420 --> 01:49:56,940
happen if the council were to make these

2391
01:49:56,940 --> 01:49:59,460
changes to the code we'd make sure that

2392
01:49:59,460 --> 01:50:01,380
you know because you know the idea here

2393
01:50:01,380 --> 01:50:02,699
is that we're look we're not looking to

2394
01:50:02,699 --> 01:50:04,739
punish anybody for not having it we're

2395
01:50:04,739 --> 01:50:06,000
looking to make sure that people

2396
01:50:06,000 --> 01:50:08,460
actually comply with the law that we

2397
01:50:08,460 --> 01:50:10,920
know that their promises are safe

2398
01:50:10,920 --> 01:50:13,800
um so we want to encourage people to you

2399
01:50:13,800 --> 01:50:15,300
know apply for their certificates views

2400
01:50:15,300 --> 01:50:16,320
provide us with the necessary

2401
01:50:16,320 --> 01:50:18,060
documentation and get the inspections

2402
01:50:18,060 --> 01:50:19,440
Etc

2403
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:21,540
um so we'll be sending you know when I

2404
01:50:21,540 --> 01:50:23,280
say we it's the city it doesn't it

2405
01:50:23,280 --> 01:50:24,780
hasn't come from the Law Department it

2406
01:50:24,780 --> 01:50:27,480
comes it has come from code enforcement

2407
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:30,239
in the past yes

2408
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:32,460
so

2409
01:50:32,460 --> 01:50:34,920
thank you for people so you're seeing

2410
01:50:34,920 --> 01:50:37,679
people who don't right now have a

2411
01:50:37,679 --> 01:50:39,540
certificate to use they will there will

2412
01:50:39,540 --> 01:50:41,400
be an expectation for them to get one

2413
01:50:41,400 --> 01:50:43,320
what were we thinking about a timeline

2414
01:50:43,320 --> 01:50:44,880
for that I'm just thinking about I'm a

2415
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:46,020
small business and there's things like

2416
01:50:46,020 --> 01:50:47,880
I'm just you know I want to make sure

2417
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:49,679
that we're being fair and Equitable to

2418
01:50:49,679 --> 01:50:51,480
our small business owners you know I

2419
01:50:51,480 --> 01:50:52,980
can't answer that question what the

2420
01:50:52,980 --> 01:50:54,179
timeline is

2421
01:50:54,179 --> 01:50:55,800
um you know because I don't issue those

2422
01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:57,659
tickets obviously that comes from code

2423
01:50:57,659 --> 01:51:00,000
enforcement I think generally though you

2424
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:01,580
know um

2425
01:51:01,580 --> 01:51:04,219
there's there's a realistic expectation

2426
01:51:04,219 --> 01:51:07,340
uh you know that people will you know

2427
01:51:07,340 --> 01:51:10,560
comply and um and to be honest in the

2428
01:51:10,560 --> 01:51:13,619
past before anybody's sent to court you

2429
01:51:13,619 --> 01:51:15,060
know for not having a certificate of use

2430
01:51:15,060 --> 01:51:17,460
we make sure that a letter is gone out

2431
01:51:17,460 --> 01:51:18,840
you know that that was a question

2432
01:51:18,840 --> 01:51:21,000
because they get a letter to notify them

2433
01:51:21,000 --> 01:51:22,440
that they need to have a certificate of

2434
01:51:22,440 --> 01:51:25,080
use when they go through the planning

2435
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:27,060
um through site plan approval process

2436
01:51:27,060 --> 01:51:28,800
one of the things that comes up from

2437
01:51:28,800 --> 01:51:30,840
development is hey you're opening a

2438
01:51:30,840 --> 01:51:32,280
business that's subject to having a

2439
01:51:32,280 --> 01:51:33,780
certificate of use you need to make sure

2440
01:51:33,780 --> 01:51:36,360
you get that before you open up and you

2441
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:37,679
know usually they're in the past there's

2442
01:51:37,679 --> 01:51:39,719
been some back and forth I know I've had

2443
01:51:39,719 --> 01:51:41,340
correspondence with Mr mudiveran about

2444
01:51:41,340 --> 01:51:43,020
this where somebody doesn't have a

2445
01:51:43,020 --> 01:51:45,000
certificate of use then they apply and

2446
01:51:45,000 --> 01:51:45,900
maybe they don't have all the

2447
01:51:45,900 --> 01:51:47,580
documentation so it's been denied

2448
01:51:47,580 --> 01:51:49,260
they're not being sent to court right

2449
01:51:49,260 --> 01:51:50,940
away right we're working with them to

2450
01:51:50,940 --> 01:51:52,980
make sure that you know they get the

2451
01:51:52,980 --> 01:51:55,440
documentation that they need now there's

2452
01:51:55,440 --> 01:51:57,060
this thing on the other hand with some

2453
01:51:57,060 --> 01:51:59,159
people just kind of ignore the fact that

2454
01:51:59,159 --> 01:52:01,139
the law is you know such where you need

2455
01:52:01,139 --> 01:52:03,360
get a certificate of use and you know we

2456
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:04,920
try to you know get them to comply

2457
01:52:04,920 --> 01:52:07,260
obviously we can't you know we can lead

2458
01:52:07,260 --> 01:52:08,639
them to water and tell them here's the

2459
01:52:08,639 --> 01:52:09,960
application here's to hear the things

2460
01:52:09,960 --> 01:52:12,060
you have to submit but we can't you know

2461
01:52:12,060 --> 01:52:13,980
force them to submit it so in those

2462
01:52:13,980 --> 01:52:16,320
instances they do get sent to court

2463
01:52:16,320 --> 01:52:17,940
um in terms of you know an actual

2464
01:52:17,940 --> 01:52:19,500
timeline

2465
01:52:19,500 --> 01:52:21,659
I don't have that you know I can't tell

2466
01:52:21,659 --> 01:52:23,820
you I think it's you know we use some

2467
01:52:23,820 --> 01:52:26,280
discretion and we're reasonable

2468
01:52:26,280 --> 01:52:27,840
um you know obviously this is just a

2469
01:52:27,840 --> 01:52:29,940
call for a public hearing and maybe you

2470
01:52:29,940 --> 01:52:31,920
know there's some thought to be flushed

2471
01:52:31,920 --> 01:52:33,659
out if this goes ahead and how we're

2472
01:52:33,659 --> 01:52:36,420
going to you know internally notify

2473
01:52:36,420 --> 01:52:38,520
those business owners to let them know

2474
01:52:38,520 --> 01:52:40,500
that you know if this goes through you

2475
01:52:40,500 --> 01:52:42,480
know if it does go through what we will

2476
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:45,600
be doing in terms of notifying them

2477
01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:46,320
um

2478
01:52:46,320 --> 01:52:48,179
no I don't think that is something

2479
01:52:48,179 --> 01:52:49,560
that's going to happen overnight where

2480
01:52:49,560 --> 01:52:51,179
all of a sudden you know the council

2481
01:52:51,179 --> 01:52:54,659
passes uh the change to the code and the

2482
01:52:54,659 --> 01:52:56,520
following day if people haven't applied

2483
01:52:56,520 --> 01:52:58,619
they're going to get tickets right I

2484
01:52:58,619 --> 01:53:00,179
think there'll be a notification process

2485
01:53:00,179 --> 01:53:02,820
like there is with renewals

2486
01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:05,159
um to let people know that you know hey

2487
01:53:05,159 --> 01:53:06,659
the code's changed and now you're

2488
01:53:06,659 --> 01:53:09,239
subject to you know this particular

2489
01:53:09,239 --> 01:53:10,920
sexual law that you weren't previously

2490
01:53:10,920 --> 01:53:15,360
you know having to follow and here's

2491
01:53:15,360 --> 01:53:19,450
what you have to do

2492
01:53:19,460 --> 01:53:21,780
more during a public hearing but I do

2493
01:53:21,780 --> 01:53:23,400
think that

2494
01:53:23,400 --> 01:53:26,580
um if we are changing something and we

2495
01:53:26,580 --> 01:53:31,500
know as to what date and effect that change would be in fact I think

2496
01:53:31,500 --> 01:53:33,900
that it wouldn't be too much of an

2497
01:53:33,900 --> 01:53:36,960
expectation to say that if a letter goes

2498
01:53:36,960 --> 01:53:38,639
out on this day

2499
01:53:38,639 --> 01:53:41,040
or you know whoever we send that letter

2500
01:53:41,040 --> 01:53:43,739
out to has this amount of time because I

2501
01:53:43,739 --> 01:53:47,159
appreciate the ability to be flexible

2502
01:53:47,159 --> 01:53:48,960
people I think that's important however

2503
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:51,900
when we have matters of compliance and

2504
01:53:51,900 --> 01:53:54,300
we use discretion then we open the door

2505
01:53:54,300 --> 01:53:56,040
for inequity so I think that we should

2506
01:53:56,040 --> 01:53:58,920
just really as a say to be paying close

2507
01:53:58,920 --> 01:54:00,780
intention to that

2508
01:54:00,780 --> 01:54:03,900
and certainly if the council was to

2509
01:54:03,900 --> 01:54:06,000
agree to these changes

2510
01:54:06,000 --> 01:54:07,679
um you know you can go with an effective

2511
01:54:07,679 --> 01:54:09,719
date right so potentially you can go

2512
01:54:09,719 --> 01:54:12,060
this is effective 30 days from you know

2513
01:54:12,060 --> 01:54:14,400
passage so that you know during that

2514
01:54:14,400 --> 01:54:16,440
time period Then you know that gives

2515
01:54:16,440 --> 01:54:19,260
code enforcement time to reach out

2516
01:54:19,260 --> 01:54:21,840
um and you know knowing that in 30 days

2517
01:54:21,840 --> 01:54:23,460
this is now going to be an effect and

2518
01:54:23,460 --> 01:54:25,980
you have to be ready to go in 30 days to

2519
01:54:25,980 --> 01:54:27,780
apply and you know for your certificate

2520
01:54:27,780 --> 01:54:29,280
of use and have your paperwork in so

2521
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:33,080
that you're not out of compliance right

2522
01:54:33,080 --> 01:54:35,580
since there are specific businesses that

2523
01:54:35,580 --> 01:54:38,100
currently do not are going to fall under

2524
01:54:38,100 --> 01:54:39,480
this but don't have it and we know what

2525
01:54:39,480 --> 01:54:42,540
those businesses are are we going to be

2526
01:54:42,540 --> 01:54:44,280
making them aware of at least the call

2527
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:45,600
for public hearing I don't know how many

2528
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:48,179
people like read the paper and recognize

2529
01:54:48,179 --> 01:54:50,820
even what this code means and what it

2530
01:54:50,820 --> 01:54:52,560
may mean for them so these particular

2531
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:55,380
businesses are now going to be impacted

2532
01:54:55,380 --> 01:54:56,520
by this are we going to be sending a

2533
01:54:56,520 --> 01:54:58,440
letter I suggest that to let them know

2534
01:54:58,440 --> 01:55:00,300
that doesn't come from I mean that's

2535
01:55:00,300 --> 01:55:01,619
certainly up to the the council some

2536
01:55:01,619 --> 01:55:03,420
letters to those businesses in the past

2537
01:55:03,420 --> 01:55:04,800
that hasn't come from the Law Department

2538
01:55:04,800 --> 01:55:06,960
businesses or you know certain folks are

2539
01:55:06,960 --> 01:55:10,500
impacted by a change to the code this

2540
01:55:10,500 --> 01:55:11,760
one of those things where you kind of

2541
01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:12,840
just have to pay attention to what's

2542
01:55:12,840 --> 01:55:15,239
going on at the city

2543
01:55:15,239 --> 01:55:17,040
um you know that's certainly that's you

2544
01:55:17,040 --> 01:55:19,199
know city council can you know look at

2545
01:55:19,199 --> 01:55:21,179
some letters out I don't have a listing

2546
01:55:21,179 --> 01:55:23,219
of all those businesses obviously it's

2547
01:55:23,219 --> 01:55:24,840
not something that our office has we

2548
01:55:24,840 --> 01:55:26,940
don't maintain a list of all the vape

2549
01:55:26,940 --> 01:55:28,739
shops or smoke shops in the city of

2550
01:55:28,739 --> 01:55:32,340
Schenectady in my office that is that's

2551
01:55:32,340 --> 01:55:34,560
not to say that you know there is an

2552
01:55:34,560 --> 01:55:37,679
ability to you know identify them maybe

2553
01:55:37,679 --> 01:55:39,300
in another department

2554
01:55:39,300 --> 01:55:41,219
so if they exist and there must be a way

2555
01:55:41,219 --> 01:55:42,600
to if they're doing business in the city

2556
01:55:42,600 --> 01:55:43,800
of Schenectady but there's got to be a

2557
01:55:43,800 --> 01:55:45,900
way for us to identify that their their

2558
01:55:45,900 --> 01:55:47,580
hair and doing business well I think

2559
01:55:47,580 --> 01:55:49,860
part of the process is that this is one

2560
01:55:49,860 --> 01:55:51,719
of the reasons why you know I think also

2561
01:55:51,719 --> 01:55:52,860
we're requiring a certificate of use

2562
01:55:52,860 --> 01:55:54,900
because we may not always be able to

2563
01:55:54,900 --> 01:55:57,300
identify every single smoke shop or vape

2564
01:55:57,300 --> 01:55:58,920
shop if we create a requirement that we

2565
01:55:58,920 --> 01:56:00,480
can then follow up to see if they have

2566
01:56:00,480 --> 01:56:02,520
the certificate of use you know I can

2567
01:56:02,520 --> 01:56:04,260
tell you obviously anecdotally just you

2568
01:56:04,260 --> 01:56:05,699
know being around the city I see a lot

2569
01:56:05,699 --> 01:56:07,920
of smoke shops I don't know you know who

2570
01:56:07,920 --> 01:56:09,360
the owner is I don't know the exact

2571
01:56:09,360 --> 01:56:11,820
address and I certainly could you know

2572
01:56:11,820 --> 01:56:14,159
list every single one because I haven't

2573
01:56:14,159 --> 01:56:16,320
seen them all I just know that there are

2574
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:19,380
quite a few out there but certainly the

2575
01:56:19,380 --> 01:56:21,000
Law Department doesn't maintain a list

2576
01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:23,880
of those you know smoke shops and vape

2577
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:25,380
shops I'm sure I can do a Google Search

2578
01:56:25,380 --> 01:56:27,360
right and then figure out where they are

2579
01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,280
but there may be another department in

2580
01:56:29,280 --> 01:56:30,960
the city that has that information but

2581
01:56:30,960 --> 01:56:34,020
the Law Department doesn't have that

2582
01:56:34,020 --> 01:56:36,000
well I really think there's a way we

2583
01:56:36,000 --> 01:56:37,500
should be able to tell businesses that

2584
01:56:37,500 --> 01:56:39,119
this is going to happen it's and you

2585
01:56:39,119 --> 01:56:40,139
haven't had to have it before when

2586
01:56:40,139 --> 01:56:41,400
you've opened your business but you have

2587
01:56:41,400 --> 01:56:43,320
to have it now or this is coming or even

2588
01:56:43,320 --> 01:56:45,000
have give them an opportunity to come to

2589
01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:46,860
the public hearing I think that's uh if

2590
01:56:46,860 --> 01:56:48,840
it's if it's not something like you you

2591
01:56:48,840 --> 01:56:50,340
spoke to the other ones already know

2592
01:56:50,340 --> 01:56:52,139
that when they start their business but

2593
01:56:52,139 --> 01:56:54,480
we are considering

2594
01:56:54,480 --> 01:56:56,219
um doing something different to

2595
01:56:56,219 --> 01:56:57,600
businesses that did not need it before

2596
01:56:57,600 --> 01:56:59,639
so I think even making them aware of the

2597
01:56:59,639 --> 01:57:01,500
public hearing if we can figure out a

2598
01:57:01,500 --> 01:57:03,900
mechanism to do that it's important so

2599
01:57:03,900 --> 01:57:05,580
that people won't come and say well I

2600
01:57:05,580 --> 01:57:09,050
didn't know

2601
01:57:09,060 --> 01:57:11,340
so I we I believe we should really try

2602
01:57:11,340 --> 01:57:13,920
to figure that out well we can't come in

2603
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,280
and said they didn't know

2604
01:57:16,280 --> 01:57:19,080
it's very good to work with them this

2605
01:57:19,080 --> 01:57:21,540
need it was new as of whatever day we

2606
01:57:21,540 --> 01:57:24,480
you know if we pass it the person to

2607
01:57:24,480 --> 01:57:26,940
um effect here's the applications to me

2608
01:57:26,940 --> 01:57:28,440
we'll make an appointment with Cole to

2609
01:57:28,440 --> 01:57:30,540
come to make sure your compliance your

2610
01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:34,500
building and hold on it I mean because

2611
01:57:34,500 --> 01:57:45,010
again

2612
01:57:45,020 --> 01:57:47,940
they're not always reading that

2613
01:57:47,940 --> 01:57:50,340
Christmas paper going to the website to

2614
01:57:50,340 --> 01:57:52,619
see what's in it but again so they're

2615
01:57:52,619 --> 01:57:54,300
not compliance to come in here's your

2616
01:57:54,300 --> 01:57:56,699
application will work with you that's

2617
01:57:56,699 --> 01:57:58,980
that which is exactly my point that

2618
01:57:58,980 --> 01:58:00,300
they're not reading they're looking

2619
01:58:00,300 --> 01:58:01,440
every day and paying attention because

2620
01:58:01,440 --> 01:58:02,760
they're running their business so

2621
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:04,199
therefore we should figure out a way to

2622
01:58:04,199 --> 01:58:06,480
let them know not only does it let them

2623
01:58:06,480 --> 01:58:08,219
know um it gives them an opportunity to

2624
01:58:08,219 --> 01:58:10,020
come to the public hearing and to see it

2625
01:58:10,020 --> 01:58:12,659
because they have to say so I I again

2626
01:58:12,659 --> 01:58:15,420
will reiterate that I we need to if

2627
01:58:15,420 --> 01:58:16,800
these businesses we're changing

2628
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:18,659
something then it's way different than

2629
01:58:18,659 --> 01:58:20,280
what we're currently doing that we can

2630
01:58:20,280 --> 01:58:22,080
figure out a way I can't imagine it's

2631
01:58:22,080 --> 01:58:24,780
that difficult to make um make these

2632
01:58:24,780 --> 01:58:26,460
businesses aware there's got to be a

2633
01:58:26,460 --> 01:58:28,020
list somewhere

2634
01:58:28,020 --> 01:58:30,540
so the first office worked for us we

2635
01:58:30,540 --> 01:58:32,880
could ask the clerk's office to work

2636
01:58:32,880 --> 01:58:34,800
with the assessor's office to find out

2637
01:58:34,800 --> 01:58:37,560
the businesses and send out a letter

2638
01:58:37,560 --> 01:58:40,280
that works for me

2639
01:58:40,280 --> 01:58:44,050
yes

2640
01:58:44,060 --> 01:58:47,460
so many signs all that other stuff well

2641
01:58:47,460 --> 01:58:48,540
the department with the Department of

2642
01:58:48,540 --> 01:58:52,030
development have any of that information

2643
01:58:52,040 --> 01:58:54,719
we probably don't have a comprehensive

2644
01:58:54,719 --> 01:58:56,580
list because it would just be the ones

2645
01:58:56,580 --> 01:58:59,780
that have come to us for other people's

2646
01:58:59,780 --> 01:59:02,760
so I think probably working between the

2647
01:59:02,760 --> 01:59:04,380
Departments you could come up with

2648
01:59:04,380 --> 01:59:06,119
something but we don't have a

2649
01:59:06,119 --> 01:59:07,760
comprehensive like I wouldn't want to

2650
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,440
include some and not other and I would

2651
01:59:10,440 --> 01:59:11,460
want to make sure that we did it

2652
01:59:11,460 --> 01:59:14,400
comprehensively obviously so

2653
01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:15,900
um working with the clerk's office I

2654
01:59:15,900 --> 01:59:17,460
would ask that we come up with a

2655
01:59:17,460 --> 01:59:19,080
comprehensive list so they can know

2656
01:59:19,080 --> 01:59:22,199
about this I think it's important

2657
01:59:22,199 --> 01:59:24,000
and not when after it's all said and

2658
01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:25,080
done they didn't give a chance to give

2659
01:59:25,080 --> 01:59:27,119
their input and now it's said and done

2660
01:59:27,119 --> 01:59:29,639
because others or and maybe sometimes no

2661
01:59:29,639 --> 01:59:31,560
one comes in public hearings so this is

2662
01:59:31,560 --> 01:59:35,410
impacting people's business itself

2663
01:59:35,420 --> 01:59:39,060
oh man clarification yeah specifically

2664
01:59:39,060 --> 01:59:42,119
are you are you looking for us to make

2665
01:59:42,119 --> 01:59:43,860
an attempt to notice the businesses that

2666
01:59:43,860 --> 01:59:45,960
already aren't covered so this is

2667
01:59:45,960 --> 01:59:49,800
specifically just the tobacco uh retail

2668
01:59:49,800 --> 01:59:51,780
and consumption because this is a change

2669
01:59:51,780 --> 01:59:53,699
for them is that correct that would be a

2670
01:59:53,699 --> 01:59:54,960
change for them anybody else had already

2671
01:59:54,960 --> 01:59:56,960
had food or alcohol

2672
01:59:56,960 --> 01:59:59,460
right only the ones and this is a change

2673
01:59:59,460 --> 02:00:01,500
for them so they're aware that the

2674
02:00:01,500 --> 02:00:03,659
others already knew that in all our

2675
02:00:03,659 --> 02:00:06,000
spirits

2676
02:00:06,000 --> 02:00:07,400
well

2677
02:00:07,400 --> 02:00:09,659
we'll support you as much as we can but

2678
02:00:09,659 --> 02:00:10,679
I just want to make sure that we're

2679
02:00:10,679 --> 02:00:12,420
trying to be as Fair as we possibly can

2680
02:00:12,420 --> 02:00:13,980
to our business owners we're making

2681
02:00:13,980 --> 02:00:15,679
changes

2682
02:00:15,679 --> 02:00:19,619
quick question so um

2683
02:00:19,619 --> 02:00:22,260
under the code right now as a new system

2684
02:00:22,260 --> 02:00:24,300
we think about like places like uh kind

2685
02:00:24,300 --> 02:00:26,400
of like a convenience store like this

2686
02:00:26,400 --> 02:00:28,980
like our Cumberland Farms stores they

2687
02:00:28,980 --> 02:00:31,020
all fall under that right now

2688
02:00:31,020 --> 02:00:34,970
correct yeah

2689
02:00:34,980 --> 02:00:45,649
beginning was around stations

2690
02:00:45,659 --> 02:00:48,060
any other questions any other thoughts

2691
02:00:48,060 --> 02:00:52,070
on that

2692
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:52,880
um

2693
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:55,739
because I'll make a motion for a call

2694
02:00:55,739 --> 02:00:57,780
for public hearing

2695
02:00:57,780 --> 02:01:00,840
someone second all's in favor

2696
02:01:00,840 --> 02:01:02,580
aye okay

2697
02:01:02,580 --> 02:01:09,669
thank you thank you though

2698
02:01:09,679 --> 02:01:13,980
okay so next on our agenda uh there's a

2699
02:01:13,980 --> 02:01:16,020
civilian police review board uh mayor

2700
02:01:16,020 --> 02:01:17,340
McCarthy

2701
02:01:17,340 --> 02:01:19,260
thank you Mr chairman the police

2702
02:01:19,260 --> 02:01:22,080
Community review board is made up of uh

2703
02:01:22,080 --> 02:01:23,940
individuals recommended by different

2704
02:01:23,940 --> 02:01:28,320
entities within the city uh spect United

2705
02:01:28,320 --> 02:01:31,040
neighborhoods is set in the name of

2706
02:01:31,040 --> 02:01:35,159
DeSoto it was a primary member in Ms

2707
02:01:35,159 --> 02:01:38,639
Isaacs is an alternative

2708
02:01:38,639 --> 02:01:40,920
to you and us for your favorable

2709
02:01:40,920 --> 02:01:46,790
consideration

2710
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:52,070
any further discussion thoughts on that

2711
02:01:52,080 --> 02:01:55,260
I'll accept emotion I'll move it second

2712
02:01:55,260 --> 02:02:01,669
all those in favor all right thank you

2713
02:02:01,679 --> 02:02:04,920
okay so the next on our agenda

2714
02:02:04,920 --> 02:02:06,780
there's a discussion around the Clean

2715
02:02:06,780 --> 02:02:09,900
Slate act uh council member Williams

2716
02:02:09,900 --> 02:02:12,000
thank you so this is definitely a very

2717
02:02:12,000 --> 02:02:15,480
uh Progressive topic please simply put

2718
02:02:15,480 --> 02:02:16,860
his uh

2719
02:02:16,860 --> 02:02:19,380
racially objectivity Public Safety but

2720
02:02:19,380 --> 02:02:21,300
most important it's an economic Justice

2721
02:02:21,300 --> 02:02:23,400
Bill we have a few speakers and

2722
02:02:23,400 --> 02:02:25,020
attendance tonight I'll call up shortly

2723
02:02:25,020 --> 02:02:27,420
by just providing some background Clean

2724
02:02:27,420 --> 02:02:29,460
Slate act which is past the New York

2725
02:02:29,460 --> 02:02:31,500
State Senate I do have the bill numbers

2726
02:02:31,500 --> 02:02:33,179
it's currently sitting in the assembly

2727
02:02:33,179 --> 02:02:35,340
will automatically seal conviction

2728
02:02:35,340 --> 02:02:37,199
records now I feel part of the issue

2729
02:02:37,199 --> 02:02:39,780
with that is understanding what records

2730
02:02:39,780 --> 02:02:42,599
are sealable so quickly three years for

2731
02:02:42,599 --> 02:02:44,219
misdemeanors and seven years for

2732
02:02:44,219 --> 02:02:46,440
felonies it allows individuals to move

2733
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:48,900
on and fully return to this Society so

2734
02:02:48,900 --> 02:02:51,119
part of the issue that I think is at

2735
02:02:51,119 --> 02:02:53,280
hand is the effects of covid and they

2736
02:02:53,280 --> 02:02:56,520
are long lasting and to none of which

2737
02:02:56,520 --> 02:02:59,520
are more notable than unemployment and

2738
02:02:59,520 --> 02:03:01,800
lack of affordable safe housing

2739
02:03:01,800 --> 02:03:04,699
so partly that this community of

2740
02:03:04,699 --> 02:03:07,860
individuals with convictions the stigma

2741
02:03:07,860 --> 02:03:10,320
commonly associated with a person having

2742
02:03:10,320 --> 02:03:13,920
such is that it places them at a

2743
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:15,719
tremendous disadvantage absentee

2744
02:03:15,719 --> 02:03:17,820
considerations for time served and

2745
02:03:17,820 --> 02:03:21,480
continue conduct so this bill simply put

2746
02:03:21,480 --> 02:03:24,179
eliminates barriers to stable employment

2747
02:03:24,179 --> 02:03:26,940
and housing which are foundational

2748
02:03:26,940 --> 02:03:29,099
pillars of any successful household that

2749
02:03:29,099 --> 02:03:31,980
is not an arduable that's a fact so

2750
02:03:31,980 --> 02:03:33,719
taking the necessary steps to align our

2751
02:03:33,719 --> 02:03:35,880
community with other municipalities that

2752
02:03:35,880 --> 02:03:37,980
have joined these efforts seeks to

2753
02:03:37,980 --> 02:03:40,380
bolster our community so we continue to

2754
02:03:40,380 --> 02:03:42,540
talk about a new Schenectady and I wish

2755
02:03:42,540 --> 02:03:45,480
Mr Gold was still present and how we can

2756
02:03:45,480 --> 02:03:47,760
take active steps to ensure that these

2757
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:50,159
individuals who have served their time

2758
02:03:50,159 --> 02:03:53,580
who have continued to put forth the best

2759
02:03:53,580 --> 02:03:55,880
efforts

2760
02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:58,260
making sure that these types of

2761
02:03:58,260 --> 02:04:00,179
penalties are not long lasting or

2762
02:04:00,179 --> 02:04:02,580
Perpetual punishments that place them at

2763
02:04:02,580 --> 02:04:05,699
a continued lose-lose situation so I

2764
02:04:05,699 --> 02:04:07,320
think it's an appropriate time and I

2765
02:04:07,320 --> 02:04:09,000
want to make sure I get their bios

2766
02:04:09,000 --> 02:04:12,420
correct I would like to ask Trent refers

2767
02:04:12,420 --> 02:04:14,400
to come up

2768
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,649
yeah

2769
02:04:17,659 --> 02:04:19,920
who is the founder of tech Valley

2770
02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:22,860
Hospitality shuttle in 2016 to improve

2771
02:04:22,860 --> 02:04:25,080
the accessibility of food medicine and

2772
02:04:25,080 --> 02:04:27,119
employment opportunities in or around

2773
02:04:27,119 --> 02:04:28,199
the

2774
02:04:28,199 --> 02:04:30,840
amaround the Catalan District in New

2775
02:04:30,840 --> 02:04:32,820
York today the shuttle service also

2776
02:04:32,820 --> 02:04:34,980
provides transportation to more than 50

2777
02:04:34,980 --> 02:04:37,940
hotels including those owned by Marriott

2778
02:04:37,940 --> 02:04:41,639
Hilton and weddings and clients include

2779
02:04:41,639 --> 02:04:44,400
Starbucks and FedEx and I'll have the

2780
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:45,780
discretion of council president

2781
02:04:45,780 --> 02:04:47,760
Portugues wanted to highlight the

2782
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:49,080
automatic ceiling I'm just going to read

2783
02:04:49,080 --> 02:04:51,060
verbatim from an information packet that

2784
02:04:51,060 --> 02:04:53,580
we received from misdemeanors it's three

2785
02:04:53,580 --> 02:04:55,679
years for sentencing excluding in time

2786
02:04:55,679 --> 02:04:58,380
spent incarcerated and for felonies it's

2787
02:04:58,380 --> 02:05:00,540
seven years from some same excluding any

2788
02:05:00,540 --> 02:05:02,760
time spent incarcerated and also the

2789
02:05:02,760 --> 02:05:04,260
person that's eligible for this are

2790
02:05:04,260 --> 02:05:05,760
those that have completed their jail

2791
02:05:05,760 --> 02:05:07,980
time prison time that have completed

2792
02:05:07,980 --> 02:05:12,300
probation and paroles the convictions to

2793
02:05:12,300 --> 02:05:13,920
be cleared is not

2794
02:05:13,920 --> 02:05:17,940
uh excludes as sexual offenses and then

2795
02:05:17,940 --> 02:05:20,460
they must have not accrued subsequent

2796
02:05:20,460 --> 02:05:22,080
New York State convictions or any

2797
02:05:22,080 --> 02:05:24,119
pending charges during our wait period

2798
02:05:24,119 --> 02:05:25,980
so Trent I appreciate you being here

2799
02:05:25,980 --> 02:05:28,020
just provide some life experience around

2800
02:05:28,020 --> 02:05:29,719
how

2801
02:05:29,719 --> 02:05:32,520
well a good evening everybody how you

2802
02:05:32,520 --> 02:05:34,560
doing uh my name is Trenton Griffin bro

2803
02:05:34,560 --> 02:05:36,960
like what I said I'll operate Tech

2804
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:38,820
Valley show I also have another business

2805
02:05:38,820 --> 02:05:40,920
GB Logistics

2806
02:05:40,920 --> 02:05:44,460
um I'm my business is I bring third and

2807
02:05:44,460 --> 02:05:46,619
fifth as biopox Citizens in the capital

2808
02:05:46,619 --> 02:05:49,440
Region's largest by a box so together if

2809
02:05:49,440 --> 02:05:51,179
you put my businesses together I

2810
02:05:51,179 --> 02:05:53,820
probably am the biggest African-American

2811
02:05:53,820 --> 02:05:56,040
employer in the capital region match

2812
02:05:56,040 --> 02:05:58,020
that with my organization Tech Valley

2813
02:05:58,020 --> 02:06:00,360
show this year was just nominated

2814
02:06:00,360 --> 02:06:02,520
actually the first black owned business

2815
02:06:02,520 --> 02:06:04,440
to ever be nominated by the Albany

2816
02:06:04,440 --> 02:06:06,000
Business Review as one of the best

2817
02:06:06,000 --> 02:06:08,099
places to work give you a little

2818
02:06:08,099 --> 02:06:10,080
historical data like that from pouring

2819
02:06:10,080 --> 02:06:12,960
about 100 people Fleet of Route 50

2820
02:06:12,960 --> 02:06:14,880
vehicles at this time

2821
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:18,440
um but at one point I was identified as

2822
02:06:18,440 --> 02:06:22,739
o5a1273 that was my dig number in 2004

2823
02:06:22,739 --> 02:06:25,920
2005 when I went Upstate to prison for a

2824
02:06:25,920 --> 02:06:28,139
four to 12 year prison sentence for a

2825
02:06:28,139 --> 02:06:30,540
important narcotic sales

2826
02:06:30,540 --> 02:06:34,800
um I say this is all relevant because

2827
02:06:34,800 --> 02:06:38,040
one I had to go through so many barriers

2828
02:06:38,040 --> 02:06:40,560
upon release I was continually told no

2829
02:06:40,560 --> 02:06:42,780
or not given jobs

2830
02:06:42,780 --> 02:06:45,179
um I was I actually couldn't go back to

2831
02:06:45,179 --> 02:06:46,800
college immediately because I wasn't

2832
02:06:46,800 --> 02:06:48,900
able for like eligible for certain

2833
02:06:48,900 --> 02:06:51,780
grants and things of that nature

2834
02:06:51,780 --> 02:06:54,480
um at the time my wife now was living in

2835
02:06:54,480 --> 02:06:56,460
housing but housing wouldn't let me stay

2836
02:06:56,460 --> 02:06:58,679
with her because of I was a convicted

2837
02:06:58,679 --> 02:07:01,800
felon so I literally have lived through

2838
02:07:01,800 --> 02:07:04,860
the effects of what this bill is going

2839
02:07:04,860 --> 02:07:06,960
to be able to help others not have to go

2840
02:07:06,960 --> 02:07:08,940
through and I think that's very

2841
02:07:08,940 --> 02:07:11,880
important because as I started with

2842
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:14,040
um being someone who now operates some

2843
02:07:14,040 --> 02:07:16,260
of the largest uh back-owned businesses

2844
02:07:16,260 --> 02:07:17,940
in the area best places to work

2845
02:07:17,940 --> 02:07:21,119
highlighting forms Bloomsburg

2846
02:07:21,119 --> 02:07:23,280
um you know just has a lot of positive

2847
02:07:23,280 --> 02:07:25,020
things going on

2848
02:07:25,020 --> 02:07:27,950
um

2849
02:07:27,960 --> 02:07:32,099
I I'm one of the very few who are able

2850
02:07:32,099 --> 02:07:34,199
to come out and redefine their lives in

2851
02:07:34,199 --> 02:07:36,719
their way because of the barriers but I

2852
02:07:36,719 --> 02:07:38,460
do believe in my heart if some of these

2853
02:07:38,460 --> 02:07:40,560
barriers were immune you would see a lot

2854
02:07:40,560 --> 02:07:43,020
more success stories just like that and

2855
02:07:43,020 --> 02:07:46,619
additionally on top of understanding the

2856
02:07:46,619 --> 02:07:48,599
effects from our business I'm gonna put

2857
02:07:48,599 --> 02:07:51,360
my business cap on now and all we hear

2858
02:07:51,360 --> 02:07:53,340
about is the great resignation how

2859
02:07:53,340 --> 02:07:55,080
employers are struggling to find

2860
02:07:55,080 --> 02:07:57,179
employees at this time but my

2861
02:07:57,179 --> 02:07:58,980
organization actually through our driven

2862
02:07:58,980 --> 02:08:01,920
to work program we help employees we

2863
02:08:01,920 --> 02:08:04,860
have helped employers find employees and

2864
02:08:04,860 --> 02:08:07,020
the big portion of these employees are

2865
02:08:07,020 --> 02:08:08,760
individuals who were formally

2866
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,940
incarcerated so I know for a fact that

2867
02:08:11,940 --> 02:08:15,060
there's many local businesses of Mr

2868
02:08:15,060 --> 02:08:17,099
golub who was Justin here I know golovum

2869
02:08:17,099 --> 02:08:19,260
employs a lot of individuals who come

2870
02:08:19,260 --> 02:08:21,239
home from incarceration

2871
02:08:21,239 --> 02:08:23,460
um and a lot of other major Employers in

2872
02:08:23,460 --> 02:08:26,280
the area do the same and so a bill like

2873
02:08:26,280 --> 02:08:28,679
this is in my opinion and no greater

2874
02:08:28,679 --> 02:08:30,659
being someone who's actually lived

2875
02:08:30,659 --> 02:08:32,880
through it but on top of that the

2876
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:34,739
economic effects that I have on this

2877
02:08:34,739 --> 02:08:37,920
region actually on the whole state is is

2878
02:08:37,920 --> 02:08:39,540
also makes it a no-brainer in my mind

2879
02:08:39,540 --> 02:08:42,119
you have over 30 000 people incarcerated

2880
02:08:42,119 --> 02:08:43,800
in jail right now prisoners and dogs

2881
02:08:43,800 --> 02:08:45,060
right now

2882
02:08:45,060 --> 02:08:47,820
facts show that 95 of people who are

2883
02:08:47,820 --> 02:08:50,099
incarcerated are going to be released so

2884
02:08:50,099 --> 02:08:53,820
you have merely 28 27 000 people who are

2885
02:08:53,820 --> 02:08:55,320
going to be released back into the

2886
02:08:55,320 --> 02:08:58,440
community and it also see we also see

2887
02:08:58,440 --> 02:09:00,540
that recidivism breaks about half of the

2888
02:09:00,540 --> 02:09:02,820
people will go back to jail but would it

2889
02:09:02,820 --> 02:09:04,860
feel like this I can almost guarantee

2890
02:09:04,860 --> 02:09:07,080
that you will see that number go from

2891
02:09:07,080 --> 02:09:09,000
half to probably half of that percentage

2892
02:09:09,000 --> 02:09:11,880
as well half of the barriers if you

2893
02:09:11,880 --> 02:09:15,239
can't find employment most people are

2894
02:09:15,239 --> 02:09:17,219
going to be stuck doing things that they

2895
02:09:17,219 --> 02:09:19,440
probably shouldn't be doing and a lot of

2896
02:09:19,440 --> 02:09:21,179
times you can't find employment because

2897
02:09:21,179 --> 02:09:23,099
you're being punished for something that

2898
02:09:23,099 --> 02:09:26,820
you already serve time for so again a

2899
02:09:26,820 --> 02:09:28,739
bill like this is absolutely a

2900
02:09:28,739 --> 02:09:30,900
no-brainer in my opinion from from a

2901
02:09:30,900 --> 02:09:32,699
business standpoint from my business hat

2902
02:09:32,699 --> 02:09:34,619
on as well as from the fact that I

2903
02:09:34,619 --> 02:09:36,599
actually have lived through the effects

2904
02:09:36,599 --> 02:09:42,470
of what this bill is hoping to change

2905
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:46,930
Thomas questions

2906
02:09:46,940 --> 02:09:50,639
so at this time I'd like to bring the

2907
02:09:50,639 --> 02:09:52,739
president uh invite Carmel Griffin who

2908
02:09:52,739 --> 02:09:54,119
was born and raised in Schenectady New

2909
02:09:54,119 --> 02:09:55,800
York Carvel is the father of Ford will

2910
02:09:55,800 --> 02:09:57,840
be known in the future as the father of

2911
02:09:57,840 --> 02:10:00,360
investing his investment philosophy his

2912
02:10:00,360 --> 02:10:02,820
minimal debt buy and hold while buying

2913
02:10:02,820 --> 02:10:04,679
within the same Community as you grew up

2914
02:10:04,679 --> 02:10:07,800
in over video new city council everybody

2915
02:10:07,800 --> 02:10:10,679
else my name is Carver from formerly

2916
02:10:10,679 --> 02:10:12,320
known as

2917
02:10:12,320 --> 02:10:15,659
1101-3052 now the difference between me

2918
02:10:15,659 --> 02:10:18,540
and his journey is I was a federal

2919
02:10:18,540 --> 02:10:21,060
prison so when you go to federal prison

2920
02:10:21,060 --> 02:10:23,460
you don't have the same barriers the

2921
02:10:23,460 --> 02:10:25,920
state prison when you're released so

2922
02:10:25,920 --> 02:10:27,900
when I was releasing I wanted to get a

2923
02:10:27,900 --> 02:10:31,139
job I didn't have that same period of

2924
02:10:31,139 --> 02:10:33,480
somebody telling me no so my

2925
02:10:33,480 --> 02:10:35,280
mother-in-law she worked at momentum

2926
02:10:35,280 --> 02:10:36,840
performance material at the center of

2927
02:10:36,840 --> 02:10:37,980
Waterford

2928
02:10:37,980 --> 02:10:40,860
and she told me to come over here you're

2929
02:10:40,860 --> 02:10:43,260
gonna have to take a test I took a test

2930
02:10:43,260 --> 02:10:45,900
I passed it it was a math test passed

2931
02:10:45,900 --> 02:10:47,780
the math test I went to the interview

2932
02:10:47,780 --> 02:10:49,980
and the best thing about the interview

2933
02:10:49,980 --> 02:10:52,199
was I got some face time like this

2934
02:10:52,199 --> 02:10:55,080
because if you look at me

2935
02:10:55,080 --> 02:10:59,719
I don't look like nothing I'm just at

2936
02:10:59,719 --> 02:11:03,119
113052 with no charges that were drug

2937
02:11:03,119 --> 02:11:05,699
charges right so when I got that

2938
02:11:05,699 --> 02:11:07,500
FaceTime it was in front of five

2939
02:11:07,500 --> 02:11:09,840
separate people they actually decided to

2940
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:10,860
hire me

2941
02:11:10,860 --> 02:11:13,440
so I got hired when I got hired I go

2942
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:15,659
into a building that was outside the

2943
02:11:15,659 --> 02:11:17,639
chemical plant it was more manufacturing

2944
02:11:17,639 --> 02:11:19,199
and my mother has been in that building

2945
02:11:19,199 --> 02:11:21,900
30 years so she walked me in there and

2946
02:11:21,900 --> 02:11:24,840
she showed me what to do and everything

2947
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:29,400
there was test driven it wasn't what

2948
02:11:29,400 --> 02:11:31,980
your knowledge was about anything if you

2949
02:11:31,980 --> 02:11:37,920
could pass that test if we trained you pass that test you'll move up so I

2950
02:11:37,920 --> 02:11:39,900
ended up moving up I ended up playing

2951
02:11:39,900 --> 02:11:42,239
chess over there and I went into the

2952
02:11:42,239 --> 02:11:44,460
chemical plant but when I got into the

2953
02:11:44,460 --> 02:11:45,840
chemical plant it was a little more

2954
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,659
different it was more no nobody looked

2955
02:11:48,659 --> 02:11:49,980
like me really I was in the building

2956
02:11:49,980 --> 02:11:52,199
with 50 people and I worked in methadone

2957
02:11:52,199 --> 02:11:56,040
and Salat times and uh sulfuric acid if

2958
02:11:56,040 --> 02:11:57,599
you know the black rail cars that you

2959
02:11:57,599 --> 02:11:59,940
see run around I unloaded them into

2960
02:11:59,940 --> 02:12:01,739
asylums and stuff like that I checked

2961
02:12:01,739 --> 02:12:03,960
with a lot of temperatures things of

2962
02:12:03,960 --> 02:12:06,239
that nature so it won't super sure I get

2963
02:12:06,239 --> 02:12:08,400
into this building and I'm in the

2964
02:12:08,400 --> 02:12:10,260
building I'm doing well right

2965
02:12:10,260 --> 02:12:15,900
and somebody starts to research me they they figure out some way that

2966
02:12:15,900 --> 02:12:18,840
they've researched me so now they had a

2967
02:12:18,840 --> 02:12:21,420
meeting about me being in the building

2968
02:12:21,420 --> 02:12:25,800
was I danger we had sulfuric acid we had

2969
02:12:25,800 --> 02:12:29,460
methanol we have chloride so

2970
02:12:29,460 --> 02:12:32,280
it was just an awkward position and one

2971
02:12:32,280 --> 02:12:34,320
person actually stepped up for me I was

2972
02:12:34,320 --> 02:12:35,880
on my shift and he ended up having the

2973
02:12:35,880 --> 02:12:37,679
same birthday as me the same bill maybe

2974
02:12:37,679 --> 02:12:40,619
so he trained the hell out of me like

2975
02:12:40,619 --> 02:12:43,320
when I say when everybody else was

2976
02:12:43,320 --> 02:12:46,020
sleeping on that third shift he had me

2977
02:12:46,020 --> 02:12:48,239
up making sure I was going to be

2978
02:12:48,239 --> 02:12:49,679
successful

2979
02:12:49,679 --> 02:12:54,179
and it it just was it it was Monumental

2980
02:12:54,179 --> 02:12:55,800
it was somewhere that I'm looking at I'm

2981
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,079
like there's nobody in these places that

2982
02:12:58,079 --> 02:13:00,599
look like you know anybody that was

2983
02:13:00,599 --> 02:13:02,940
working there was action that looked

2984
02:13:02,940 --> 02:13:04,860
like me nine times out of ten was the

2985
02:13:04,860 --> 02:13:07,679
janitors working for I forgot the

2986
02:13:07,679 --> 02:13:10,020
company but I'm sitting here at night

2987
02:13:10,020 --> 02:13:11,820
time making forty dollars an hour and

2988
02:13:11,820 --> 02:13:12,960
I'm sleepy

2989
02:13:12,960 --> 02:13:15,659
we are sleep next to computers as long

2990
02:13:15,659 --> 02:13:16,920
as nothing's going wrong in this

2991
02:13:16,920 --> 02:13:18,300
chemical plant

2992
02:13:18,300 --> 02:13:20,940
you sleep you're making money everybody

2993
02:13:20,940 --> 02:13:22,739
in there is making seventy to a hundred

2994
02:13:22,739 --> 02:13:25,020
thousand dollars doing literally nothing

2995
02:13:25,020 --> 02:13:27,540
and I couldn't believe it I'm like are

2996
02:13:27,540 --> 02:13:29,280
you serious all I gotta do is show up

2997
02:13:29,280 --> 02:13:33,300
here so long story short me inclining

2998
02:13:33,300 --> 02:13:40,450
trying to get to the next level

2999
02:13:40,460 --> 02:13:43,500
so one week was three to eleven you'll

3000
02:13:43,500 --> 02:13:46,079
be off the weekend then you work 11-7

3001
02:13:46,079 --> 02:13:48,060
for seven days and you worked seven and

3002
02:13:48,060 --> 02:13:49,560
three so when you're working with

3003
02:13:49,560 --> 02:13:51,119
somebody in this place excuse my

3004
02:13:51,119 --> 02:13:53,159
language I slept okay and pooped

3005
02:13:53,159 --> 02:13:55,679
everything everything happened there we

3006
02:13:55,679 --> 02:14:01,560
had a kitchen workout everything is like the fire like a fire company if you

3007
02:14:01,560 --> 02:14:04,920
do everything man so it was my time to

3008
02:14:04,920 --> 02:14:06,840
uh some test came and you could pass

3009
02:14:06,840 --> 02:14:09,900
tests you can move on so I didn't know

3010
02:14:09,900 --> 02:14:12,119
it I didn't know the information but I

3011
02:14:12,119 --> 02:14:13,739
knew I could pass the test

3012
02:14:13,739 --> 02:14:16,079
at any time of them it took the test I

3013
02:14:16,079 --> 02:14:19,440
passed the test I went to another ship I

3014
02:14:19,440 --> 02:14:21,900
had nobody to hover over you on that

3015
02:14:21,900 --> 02:14:23,099
other ship

3016
02:14:23,099 --> 02:14:26,159
that should the person that I took his

3017
02:14:26,159 --> 02:14:30,300
job basically he was my trainer I took

3018
02:14:30,300 --> 02:14:32,219
his job because he didn't take the test

3019
02:14:32,219 --> 02:14:36,000
but I did take the test so they moved me

3020
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,060
in his position and his job was to train

3021
02:14:39,060 --> 02:14:42,659
me and he would lose his extra five

3022
02:14:42,659 --> 02:14:47,280
dollars an hour because what happens is five people on the ship if one person

3023
02:14:47,280 --> 02:14:50,219
doesn't come in the low man on the

3024
02:14:50,219 --> 02:14:51,960
bottom which is me I have less seniority

3025
02:14:51,960 --> 02:14:53,460
I automatically make an extra five

3026
02:14:53,460 --> 02:14:56,760
dollars an hour you have 60 days you

3027
02:14:56,760 --> 02:14:59,820
have 90 days you have 120 days that you

3028
02:14:59,820 --> 02:15:01,020
don't come to work because you've been

3029
02:15:01,020 --> 02:15:03,000
there before it's time vacation so

3030
02:15:03,000 --> 02:15:05,520
automatically I'm making twenty to

3031
02:15:05,520 --> 02:15:07,679
thirty thousand dollars extra I was

3032
02:15:07,679 --> 02:15:10,139
going to be able to have that once I

3033
02:15:10,139 --> 02:15:12,480
moved into that but I couldn't get

3034
02:15:12,480 --> 02:15:13,920
that when I moved into that shift

3035
02:15:13,920 --> 02:15:16,500
because there was some opposition people

3036
02:15:16,500 --> 02:15:18,780
gaining up on them knowing that I didn't

3037
02:15:18,780 --> 02:15:19,920
know the job

3038
02:15:19,920 --> 02:15:21,900
and it was just it just didn't work out

3039
02:15:21,900 --> 02:15:25,440
but needless to say during that time I

3040
02:15:25,440 --> 02:15:28,079
stayed in my 401k they matched five

3041
02:15:28,079 --> 02:15:31,619
percent I put 15 into my 401k I saved my

3042
02:15:31,619 --> 02:15:34,500
401k after taxes they usually tell you

3043
02:15:34,500 --> 02:15:36,179
to say the pool okay before taxes

3044
02:15:36,179 --> 02:15:38,760
whatever it is you save some money you

3045
02:15:38,760 --> 02:15:40,260
know you're not saving much money it's

3046
02:15:40,260 --> 02:15:41,880
fifty dollars a hundred dollars you know

3047
02:15:41,880 --> 02:15:44,400
I see but long story short when it was

3048
02:15:44,400 --> 02:15:46,980
time for me to Exit momentum on a

3049
02:15:46,980 --> 02:15:48,840
positive note and I seen my time wasn't

3050
02:15:48,840 --> 02:15:51,300
going to be here anymore I took my 401k

3051
02:15:51,300 --> 02:15:53,280
and I invested in the housing I invested

3052
02:15:53,280 --> 02:15:55,560
in Schenectady so I own multiple

3053
02:15:55,560 --> 02:15:57,540
properties commercial property in

3054
02:15:57,540 --> 02:16:00,540
Schenectady right now so I'm saying that

3055
02:16:00,540 --> 02:16:03,780
to say the foundation for anybody coming

3056
02:16:03,780 --> 02:16:05,699
home from prison or any of these

3057
02:16:05,699 --> 02:16:07,260
situations you need you need a

3058
02:16:07,260 --> 02:16:09,239
foundation it's like a house if you

3059
02:16:09,239 --> 02:16:11,699
start building it on something that has

3060
02:16:11,699 --> 02:16:13,560
a bad Foundation eventually it's going

3061
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:17,159
to crack it's gonna fall so having this

3062
02:16:17,159 --> 02:16:19,320
clean sleep act and just Savage somebody

3063
02:16:19,320 --> 02:16:22,560
to have sex time to say hey I'm this I'm

3064
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:24,840
not this piece of paper and it's seven

3065
02:16:24,840 --> 02:16:28,139
years that's a long time though

3066
02:16:28,139 --> 02:16:30,000
to be doing something correctly

3067
02:16:30,000 --> 02:16:32,099
especially coming from a situation in

3068
02:16:32,099 --> 02:16:34,139
the environment that Savage come from we

3069
02:16:34,139 --> 02:16:36,840
haven't had uh we just haven't had the

3070
02:16:36,840 --> 02:16:38,460
same opportunity because I know I know

3071
02:16:38,460 --> 02:16:39,599
why it happened

3072
02:16:39,599 --> 02:16:41,280
you know with a lot of people that look

3073
02:16:41,280 --> 02:16:42,780
like you know don't look like me just

3074
02:16:42,780 --> 02:16:44,939
coming from that environment need this

3075
02:16:44,939 --> 02:16:47,939
right here it's a it's it's the case of

3076
02:16:47,939 --> 02:16:49,620
somebody when everybody's trying to

3077
02:16:49,620 --> 02:16:51,599
survive you're going to do something

3078
02:16:51,599 --> 02:16:53,519
when you're trying to survive but if

3079
02:16:53,519 --> 02:16:55,019
you're already living you got to have it

3080
02:16:55,019 --> 02:16:56,519
so you can make certain different

3081
02:16:56,519 --> 02:16:59,399
decisions you you can actually make a

3082
02:16:59,399 --> 02:17:01,260
decision you were not making people that

3083
02:17:01,260 --> 02:17:03,540
are surviving aren't making decisions

3084
02:17:03,540 --> 02:17:05,519
whatever they did they didn't make that

3085
02:17:05,519 --> 02:17:07,500
decision they just walked and the

3086
02:17:07,500 --> 02:17:09,300
decision was kind of made formed from

3087
02:17:09,300 --> 02:17:11,340
the environment that they came to me but

3088
02:17:11,340 --> 02:17:13,979
when you're able to live have somewhere

3089
02:17:13,979 --> 02:17:16,740
to go and have a job you can equal to me

3090
02:17:16,740 --> 02:17:19,800
a decision a formal decision

3091
02:17:19,800 --> 02:17:21,479
that's all I have to say thank you for

3092
02:17:21,479 --> 02:17:23,870
listening

3093
02:17:23,880 --> 02:17:25,679
thank you

3094
02:17:25,679 --> 02:17:27,479
all right so thank you to both those

3095
02:17:27,479 --> 02:17:29,040
individuals who by all accounts are

3096
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:32,399
success stories I understand that um

3097
02:17:32,399 --> 02:17:33,599
conviction there are certain

3098
02:17:33,599 --> 02:17:35,280
expectations to make sure that you can

3099
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:37,019
return the proper way and these

3100
02:17:37,019 --> 02:17:38,460
individuals have done so and have

3101
02:17:38,460 --> 02:17:40,500
highlighted The Continuous issues that

3102
02:17:40,500 --> 02:17:42,660
they experience after having served

3103
02:17:42,660 --> 02:17:45,059
their time and continue to do certain

3104
02:17:45,059 --> 02:17:48,240
actions thereafter it's safe to under

3105
02:17:48,240 --> 02:17:50,519
it's important to understand that there

3106
02:17:50,519 --> 02:17:53,240
is currently a ceiling process that's

3107
02:17:53,240 --> 02:17:55,139
available to individuals with

3108
02:17:55,139 --> 02:17:57,120
convictions however it is implemented by

3109
02:17:57,120 --> 02:17:58,920
less than one percent of individuals

3110
02:17:58,920 --> 02:18:01,500
with convictions which causes you to

3111
02:18:01,500 --> 02:18:03,540
pause and then asks what is the

3112
02:18:03,540 --> 02:18:06,059
effectiveness of said legislation if it

3113
02:18:06,059 --> 02:18:08,700
is in itself a barrier to these

3114
02:18:08,700 --> 02:18:11,820
individuals returning to society so I

3115
02:18:11,820 --> 02:18:13,800
see the automatic ceiling process as a

3116
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:15,719
way to again remove some of those

3117
02:18:15,719 --> 02:18:17,160
barriers being intentional with our

3118
02:18:17,160 --> 02:18:20,580
language there are multiple quotes one

3119
02:18:20,580 --> 02:18:22,559
of which I wanted to read verbatim

3120
02:18:22,559 --> 02:18:24,240
because all too often the consequences

3121
02:18:24,240 --> 02:18:26,939
of criminal record last for life which

3122
02:18:26,939 --> 02:18:28,500
can mean Decades of diminished job

3123
02:18:28,500 --> 02:18:30,719
opportunities so I had a very thoughtful

3124
02:18:30,719 --> 02:18:32,340
conversation with one of our Civic

3125
02:18:32,340 --> 02:18:34,800
leaders in the city and we talked about

3126
02:18:34,800 --> 02:18:36,899
how we have this Arbor funding which is

3127
02:18:36,899 --> 02:18:38,639
very limited in nature if you understand

3128
02:18:38,639 --> 02:18:41,040
this is a one-time use

3129
02:18:41,040 --> 02:18:44,280
this platform but it's this is an

3130
02:18:44,280 --> 02:18:51,840
intentional opportunity to remove these consequences or or frustrations or difficult Natures for these

3131
02:18:51,840 --> 02:18:54,300
individuals to provide continuous

3132
02:18:54,300 --> 02:18:56,700
economic gains for our community you

3133
02:18:56,700 --> 02:18:59,479
know we're building and growing within

3134
02:18:59,479 --> 02:19:02,040
so I'm excited to hear from the other

3135
02:19:02,040 --> 02:19:03,899
council members and this is a bill

3136
02:19:03,899 --> 02:19:05,760
that's received countless support from

3137
02:19:05,760 --> 02:19:08,760
all different individuals partially

3138
02:19:08,760 --> 02:19:10,920
Business Leaders and one of the more

3139
02:19:10,920 --> 02:19:12,179
prominent individuals to join this

3140
02:19:12,179 --> 02:19:14,639
conversation is JP Morgan out of the

3141
02:19:14,639 --> 02:19:15,899
conversations that I've had throughout

3142
02:19:15,899 --> 02:19:18,000
the city I've heard nothing but but

3143
02:19:18,000 --> 02:19:21,000
positive feedback and if we were to

3144
02:19:21,000 --> 02:19:22,679
proceed look forward to identifying

3145
02:19:22,679 --> 02:19:24,240
those those organizations at a later

3146
02:19:24,240 --> 02:19:26,570
date

3147
02:19:26,580 --> 02:19:28,500
any thoughts and further conversation on

3148
02:19:28,500 --> 02:19:30,359
this

3149
02:19:30,359 --> 02:19:31,380
okay

3150
02:19:31,380 --> 02:19:32,820
um I did I don't think this is part of

3151
02:19:32,820 --> 02:19:34,200
this but I did want to point out that

3152
02:19:34,200 --> 02:19:36,540
the New York State Business Council also

3153
02:19:36,540 --> 02:19:39,840
supports this Sports clean slate and for

3154
02:19:39,840 --> 02:19:41,519
the same reason because employers are

3155
02:19:41,519 --> 02:19:43,620
having problems finding

3156
02:19:43,620 --> 02:19:46,080
um employees and so from a business

3157
02:19:46,080 --> 02:19:47,880
perspective from an economic perspective

3158
02:19:47,880 --> 02:19:50,340
makes sense so it's not just I know

3159
02:19:50,340 --> 02:19:52,320
sometimes people look at this type of

3160
02:19:52,320 --> 02:19:54,240
legislation and think it's only like

3161
02:19:54,240 --> 02:19:55,920
perhaps grass or Grassroots

3162
02:19:55,920 --> 02:19:58,500
organizations or people who are impacted

3163
02:19:58,500 --> 02:20:01,380
by it but not necessarily it's based on

3164
02:20:01,380 --> 02:20:03,720
what it can do and how it can impact

3165
02:20:03,720 --> 02:20:07,260
people economically and in their lives

3166
02:20:07,260 --> 02:20:08,820
going forward and so that there isn't

3167
02:20:08,820 --> 02:20:11,160
that recidivism rate which has been

3168
02:20:11,160 --> 02:20:13,620
spoken to there are other organizations

3169
02:20:13,620 --> 02:20:15,840
recognize all of that and say okay then

3170
02:20:15,840 --> 02:20:17,520
you know we're willing to take this and

3171
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:19,020
so the New York State Business Council

3172
02:20:19,020 --> 02:20:21,240
is one of those organizations and as

3173
02:20:21,240 --> 02:20:23,280
we're considering it um I I think that

3174
02:20:23,280 --> 02:20:25,080
all council members when you have the

3175
02:20:25,080 --> 02:20:27,000
opportunity to where it says learn more

3176
02:20:27,000 --> 02:20:29,040
at the bottom of the handout that was

3177
02:20:29,040 --> 02:20:30,960
provided to all of you that that you can

3178
02:20:30,960 --> 02:20:32,700
take the time to to do that and to look

3179
02:20:32,700 --> 02:20:35,160
at it and for us to consider you know

3180
02:20:35,160 --> 02:20:38,220
how we can also support this because it

3181
02:20:38,220 --> 02:20:39,660
doesn't just impact communities around

3182
02:20:39,660 --> 02:20:42,120
us it also impacts our community because

3183
02:20:42,120 --> 02:20:44,280
anyone who's released from incarceration

3184
02:20:44,280 --> 02:20:46,979
is returned to the community from which

3185
02:20:46,979 --> 02:20:49,140
they were incarcerated so that means if

3186
02:20:49,140 --> 02:20:50,880
they were incarcerated from Schenectady

3187
02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:53,819
that's where they release them too so

3188
02:20:53,819 --> 02:20:56,580
um just wanted to say that I I think it

3189
02:20:56,580 --> 02:20:57,960
makes sense and it's you know about

3190
02:20:57,960 --> 02:21:00,300
economic Justice and you know we talked

3191
02:21:00,300 --> 02:21:01,620
about housing and how people can't

3192
02:21:01,620 --> 02:21:05,220
afford housing so this impacts

3193
02:21:05,220 --> 02:21:09,410
a a number of things

3194
02:21:09,420 --> 02:21:12,200
yeah I guess I would just add that I I

3195
02:21:12,200 --> 02:21:14,939
share uh the same kind of settlements as

3196
02:21:14,939 --> 02:21:16,920
Trent you know that I think it's it's a

3197
02:21:16,920 --> 02:21:19,439
no-brainer I think that the

3198
02:21:19,439 --> 02:21:22,439
um as it's written there are uh certain

3199
02:21:22,439 --> 02:21:24,359
considerations and protect the factors

3200
02:21:24,359 --> 02:21:26,040
that one you know might jump out to

3201
02:21:26,040 --> 02:21:27,720
anyone to say like you know what about

3202
02:21:27,720 --> 02:21:30,120
you know someone who was convicted you

3203
02:21:30,120 --> 02:21:33,420
know of a sexual crime against a child

3204
02:21:33,420 --> 02:21:36,000
or something like that I think that um

3205
02:21:36,000 --> 02:21:38,640
you know those type of things will are

3206
02:21:38,640 --> 02:21:40,640
clear and things that you know has a

3207
02:21:40,640 --> 02:21:43,680
concern a Community member might pop

3208
02:21:43,680 --> 02:21:45,180
into your head you know you know what

3209
02:21:45,180 --> 02:21:46,979
are their protective factors for someone

3210
02:21:46,979 --> 02:21:50,100
in those um circumstances in in

3211
02:21:50,100 --> 02:21:52,200
and it's plainly written that someone

3212
02:21:52,200 --> 02:21:53,819
um and that and set circumstance really

3213
02:21:53,819 --> 02:21:57,120
wouldn't be eligible for this I just you

3214
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:59,580
know it's kind of sad that you know we

3215
02:21:59,580 --> 02:22:01,500
are where we are in a society that we

3216
02:22:01,500 --> 02:22:04,380
have to you know convince people of the

3217
02:22:04,380 --> 02:22:07,620
humanity of others and providing them

3218
02:22:07,620 --> 02:22:10,680
access and opportunity not to a handout

3219
02:22:10,680 --> 02:22:13,740
not even necessarily a hand up it's

3220
02:22:13,740 --> 02:22:15,600
really allowing them to to put their

3221
02:22:15,600 --> 02:22:18,479
hand in and contribute to society and I

3222
02:22:18,479 --> 02:22:20,540
think that um you know

3223
02:22:20,540 --> 02:22:24,960
it's not lost on me that as

3224
02:22:24,960 --> 02:22:27,060
so much work has went into this and I

3225
02:22:27,060 --> 02:22:30,960
appreciate the uh you got sharing um you

3226
02:22:30,960 --> 02:22:33,240
know your personal stories and and I

3227
02:22:33,240 --> 02:22:34,500
would definitely consider you guys

3228
02:22:34,500 --> 02:22:36,660
exceptional people

3229
02:22:36,660 --> 02:22:39,300
um but we can't govern for the exception

3230
02:22:39,300 --> 02:22:41,580
right you know we have to make sure that

3231
02:22:41,580 --> 02:22:44,580
we're governing that uh in ways that

3232
02:22:44,580 --> 02:22:46,800
give everyone the opportunity and

3233
02:22:46,800 --> 02:22:49,260
someone shouldn't have to be as Dynamic

3234
02:22:49,260 --> 02:22:51,479
and as brilliant as as maybe the

3235
02:22:51,479 --> 02:22:53,640
gentleman that were here before us

3236
02:22:53,640 --> 02:22:55,439
um it could be a regular old Joe like

3237
02:22:55,439 --> 02:22:57,780
myself but have an opportunity

3238
02:22:57,780 --> 02:23:00,720
um to uh contribute to society and I

3239
02:23:00,720 --> 02:23:02,040
know that that not only does that

3240
02:23:02,040 --> 02:23:03,840
increase protective factors but

3241
02:23:03,840 --> 02:23:08,760
obviously there's an economic argument that um is pretty clear in a

3242
02:23:08,760 --> 02:23:11,580
diminishing job market faced with

3243
02:23:11,580 --> 02:23:13,439
inflation and so on so there's so many

3244
02:23:13,439 --> 02:23:15,120
other reasons that we should just

3245
02:23:15,120 --> 02:23:17,819
support this but if for nothing else

3246
02:23:17,819 --> 02:23:21,180
that it just makes pretty plain common

3247
02:23:21,180 --> 02:23:23,880
sense to do so so I but I'm almost

3248
02:23:23,880 --> 02:23:26,100
troubled by the fact that

3249
02:23:26,100 --> 02:23:28,500
we're we're just getting here to to

3250
02:23:28,500 --> 02:23:29,880
support something like that that's

3251
02:23:29,880 --> 02:23:31,260
probably my biggest issue with it so

3252
02:23:31,260 --> 02:23:33,479
it's an absolute over here for myself I

3253
02:23:33,479 --> 02:23:35,399
welcome any other comments or questions

3254
02:23:35,399 --> 02:23:41,870
on this

3255
02:23:41,880 --> 02:23:48,000
um so three years

3256
02:23:48,000 --> 02:23:50,520
and seven years what happens in the

3257
02:23:50,520 --> 02:23:54,540
three years you're still billed as

3258
02:23:54,540 --> 02:23:57,000
I'm sorry you're still building us you

3259
02:23:57,000 --> 02:23:58,620
know just getting out of prison you're

3260
02:23:58,620 --> 02:24:02,220
still built as a number of employers

3261
02:24:02,220 --> 02:24:03,479
um people who you work at the department

3262
02:24:03,479 --> 02:24:05,220
from they all still can have that

3263
02:24:05,220 --> 02:24:07,979
information is that correct

3264
02:24:07,979 --> 02:24:11,939
until you yeah until you've completed

3265
02:24:11,939 --> 02:24:16,510
that that time frame yes right right

3266
02:24:16,520 --> 02:24:20,399
to me it doesn't make a lot of sense

3267
02:24:20,399 --> 02:24:23,939
um you know for them getting out they

3268
02:24:23,939 --> 02:24:26,040
want to get out and get moving

3269
02:24:26,040 --> 02:24:27,300
um so I'm wondering where the three

3270
02:24:27,300 --> 02:24:30,479
years and the seven years come from

3271
02:24:30,479 --> 02:24:32,300
you know what I'm trying to say

3272
02:24:32,300 --> 02:24:35,939
right so just it's three years from

3273
02:24:35,939 --> 02:24:39,650
sentencing not not from release

3274
02:24:39,660 --> 02:24:42,000
um three years from sentencing

3275
02:24:42,000 --> 02:24:44,700
not including not including the time

3276
02:24:44,700 --> 02:24:47,780
spent in jail though right

3277
02:24:47,780 --> 02:24:50,660
excluding any time excluding any time

3278
02:24:50,660 --> 02:24:55,809
it's holding any time of course right

3279
02:24:55,819 --> 02:24:58,340
I'll just share today

3280
02:24:58,340 --> 02:25:00,899
it will trigger after a person's

3281
02:25:00,899 --> 02:25:03,540
finished confirmation right so after

3282
02:25:03,540 --> 02:25:06,180
time serve often being probation and

3283
02:25:06,180 --> 02:25:09,380
parole then the three years is active

3284
02:25:09,380 --> 02:25:14,290
misdemeanor seven years

3285
02:25:14,300 --> 02:25:16,560
so then I mean so we're looking at

3286
02:25:16,560 --> 02:25:18,840
someone can return to the community have

3287
02:25:18,840 --> 02:25:20,520
some post supervision parole or

3288
02:25:20,520 --> 02:25:21,840
something like that for maybe a couple

3289
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:23,280
years

3290
02:25:23,280 --> 02:25:26,939
and then the cloud starts I'm going to

3291
02:25:26,939 --> 02:25:28,859
stay successfully completed that which

3292
02:25:28,859 --> 02:25:31,620
is again I think made me if I understand

3293
02:25:31,620 --> 02:25:32,960
what you're saying here

3294
02:25:32,960 --> 02:25:35,340
what are they doing in the meantime

3295
02:25:35,340 --> 02:25:37,439
they still played three or seven years

3296
02:25:37,439 --> 02:25:39,300
yeah yeah that's one of the records are

3297
02:25:39,300 --> 02:25:40,500
sealed I think that's just the

3298
02:25:40,500 --> 02:25:42,359
clarifying point right that's right

3299
02:25:42,359 --> 02:25:45,720
that's what you want to do yeah

3300
02:25:45,720 --> 02:25:47,460
so

3301
02:25:47,460 --> 02:25:50,300
enough there's still a felony

3302
02:25:50,300 --> 02:25:52,800
misdemeanor but they still have that tag

3303
02:25:52,800 --> 02:25:55,020
with them

3304
02:25:55,020 --> 02:25:57,359
and that's after completing

3305
02:25:57,359 --> 02:25:58,979
post-supervision whatever that is so

3306
02:25:58,979 --> 02:26:00,960
it's extremely unfortunate that again I

3307
02:26:00,960 --> 02:26:02,760
think that this is something that we're

3308
02:26:02,760 --> 02:26:04,319
not even scratching the surface as to

3309
02:26:04,319 --> 02:26:06,400
where we we need to be um but uh

3310
02:26:06,400 --> 02:26:07,620
[Music]

3311
02:26:07,620 --> 02:26:11,939
we are here present program

3312
02:26:11,939 --> 02:26:13,200
so are you are you saying what happens

3313
02:26:13,200 --> 02:26:15,300
in the time well they're no no one's

3314
02:26:15,300 --> 02:26:20,050
just

3315
02:26:20,060 --> 02:26:22,430
after three or seven years

3316
02:26:22,430 --> 02:26:23,700
[Music]

3317
02:26:23,700 --> 02:26:26,340
you know I'm just thinking you know me

3318
02:26:26,340 --> 02:26:29,220
as a as an employer or as a landlord or

3319
02:26:29,220 --> 02:26:30,479
something

3320
02:26:30,479 --> 02:26:33,600
um you know I would want to know

3321
02:26:33,600 --> 02:26:36,180
who I was renting to who I was employing

3322
02:26:36,180 --> 02:26:38,340
and within that three to seven years if

3323
02:26:38,340 --> 02:26:48,250
you come then I'm obviously no oh okay

3324
02:26:48,260 --> 02:26:52,620
sorry saying like you support this or

3325
02:26:52,620 --> 02:26:54,960
are you saying I'm just saying three to

3326
02:26:54,960 --> 02:26:57,180
seven here I mean you're already

3327
02:26:57,180 --> 02:26:58,560
you're out

3328
02:26:58,560 --> 02:27:00,479
just hope you're not waiting three years

3329
02:27:00,479 --> 02:27:03,000
to look for a job or an apartment but

3330
02:27:03,000 --> 02:27:06,550
you already

3331
02:27:06,560 --> 02:27:09,600
yeah I think what this is getting at is

3332
02:27:09,600 --> 02:27:12,420
that when you get out you gotta you know

3333
02:27:12,420 --> 02:27:13,920
provide for yourself and for your family

3334
02:27:13,920 --> 02:27:15,840
so in order to be a productive member of

3335
02:27:15,840 --> 02:27:17,760
society you likely go on a job search

3336
02:27:17,760 --> 02:27:20,880
and in that three years or that seven

3337
02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:22,140
years

3338
02:27:22,140 --> 02:27:24,899
um after completing your sentence and

3339
02:27:24,899 --> 02:27:27,359
whatever Pro supervision you're still

3340
02:27:27,359 --> 02:27:32,160
less competitive than someone

3341
02:27:32,160 --> 02:27:34,680
um than others even after kind of

3342
02:27:34,680 --> 02:27:36,600
serving it's equality or the appointment

3343
02:27:36,600 --> 02:27:39,420
that we're able to get isn't the same

3344
02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:42,540
quality as somebody else basically it's

3345
02:27:42,540 --> 02:27:45,180
like we're we're just surviving we're

3346
02:27:45,180 --> 02:27:46,740
scratching instead of having an

3347
02:27:46,740 --> 02:27:48,240
opportunity to ask somebody else has

3348
02:27:48,240 --> 02:27:51,660
that doesn't have the same situation of

3349
02:27:51,660 --> 02:27:53,040
course and I think it comes back to

3350
02:27:53,040 --> 02:27:54,240
FaceTime because when you're just

3351
02:27:54,240 --> 02:27:55,500
looking at these pieces of the paper

3352
02:27:55,500 --> 02:27:57,960
even when you see my name cardo

3353
02:27:57,960 --> 02:27:59,420
it's not John

3354
02:27:59,420 --> 02:28:01,380
there's a difference

3355
02:28:01,380 --> 02:28:03,240
[Music]

3356
02:28:03,240 --> 02:28:07,800
no I know I think that you know that highlights you know that we know

3357
02:28:07,800 --> 02:28:12,500
that when we look at our incarcerated uh

3358
02:28:12,500 --> 02:28:15,840
people in our society right now we are

3359
02:28:15,840 --> 02:28:17,580
black and brown people are

3360
02:28:17,580 --> 02:28:19,560
disproportionately

3361
02:28:19,560 --> 02:28:22,500
um impacted uh and there's been a lot of

3362
02:28:22,500 --> 02:28:24,660
um work around you know

3363
02:28:24,660 --> 02:28:27,180
some some reform and things like that so

3364
02:28:27,180 --> 02:28:28,859
I think like as we know that that's the

3365
02:28:28,859 --> 02:28:30,180
direction that we're heading and then

3366
02:28:30,180 --> 02:28:33,120
you know we have to not be afraid to uh

3367
02:28:33,120 --> 02:28:36,300
talk about the fact that uh this

3368
02:28:36,300 --> 02:28:37,920
disproportionately impacts already

3369
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:39,660
marginalized communities and creates

3370
02:28:39,660 --> 02:28:42,300
conditions in which people are

3371
02:28:42,300 --> 02:28:44,220
far more likely to have less

3372
02:28:44,220 --> 02:28:46,380
opportunities meaning that they have

3373
02:28:46,380 --> 02:28:49,080
less opportunities to to support

3374
02:28:49,080 --> 02:28:50,640
themselves or family increasing the

3375
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:54,840
likelihood of someone choosing a

3376
02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:57,420
different path so if we want if we want

3377
02:28:57,420 --> 02:28:58,979
people to stay home and be productive

3378
02:28:58,979 --> 02:29:00,960
members of society we want to be after

3379
02:29:00,960 --> 02:29:02,700
they've already paid their debt to

3380
02:29:02,700 --> 02:29:04,319
society we want to be doing everything

3381
02:29:04,319 --> 02:29:07,380
in our power to increase access for them

3382
02:29:07,380 --> 02:29:09,540
to have a job and it's a safe place to

3383
02:29:09,540 --> 02:29:11,819
live and not just can't believe we're

3384
02:29:11,819 --> 02:29:13,260
still trying to figure that out that was

3385
02:29:13,260 --> 02:29:20,090
a yeah anyone else gotta talk about that

3386
02:29:20,100 --> 02:29:24,000
oh Johnson with regards to the Bill's

3387
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:26,100
delay in the assembly do you know the

3388
02:29:26,100 --> 02:29:29,060
reason why the bill is being delayed are

3389
02:29:29,060 --> 02:29:31,020
put on hold

3390
02:29:31,020 --> 02:29:34,260
uh I can't talk to that I know it was

3391
02:29:34,260 --> 02:29:37,020
currently sitting in a committee as of

3392
02:29:37,020 --> 02:29:39,479
May of this year hopefully with a new

3393
02:29:39,479 --> 02:29:42,300
cycle as of January and looking to get

3394
02:29:42,300 --> 02:29:43,859
more support for municipalities

3395
02:29:43,859 --> 02:29:46,020
highlighting this as an issue that they

3396
02:29:46,020 --> 02:29:47,880
would like to see progress forward this

3397
02:29:47,880 --> 02:29:49,200
is part of the reason why cities

3398
02:29:49,200 --> 02:29:50,520
throughout New York State have been

3399
02:29:50,520 --> 02:29:52,260
joining into this they're not going to

3400
02:29:52,260 --> 02:29:55,620
say fight but into this discussion about

3401
02:29:55,620 --> 02:29:58,260
how this is economically feasible and it

3402
02:29:58,260 --> 02:30:01,200
also taking demands of Mr Farley's voice

3403
02:30:01,200 --> 02:30:03,540
from himself it is something that's been

3404
02:30:03,540 --> 02:30:05,760
earned already so as miss the total

3405
02:30:05,760 --> 02:30:07,740
highlight yes three years and seven

3406
02:30:07,740 --> 02:30:09,500
years respectively is a long time

3407
02:30:09,500 --> 02:30:11,880
comparatively speaking there's nothing

3408
02:30:11,880 --> 02:30:14,220
currently available right now so if it's

3409
02:30:14,220 --> 02:30:19,670
better than the alternative

3410
02:30:19,680 --> 02:30:21,540
I think

3411
02:30:21,540 --> 02:30:23,280
you probably know that there's not a lot

3412
02:30:23,280 --> 02:30:24,840
of them you know this isn't something

3413
02:30:24,840 --> 02:30:26,939
that is like partisan you get a lot of

3414
02:30:26,939 --> 02:30:29,280
bipartisan support around this for

3415
02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:32,160
different reasons and there's uh you

3416
02:30:32,160 --> 02:30:33,840
know lots of organizations and agencies

3417
02:30:33,840 --> 02:30:34,800
that

3418
02:30:34,800 --> 02:30:37,140
um are traditionally uh pretty

3419
02:30:37,140 --> 02:30:39,180
conservative and

3420
02:30:39,180 --> 02:30:42,960
um I have really uh been uh vocal

3421
02:30:42,960 --> 02:30:44,520
supporters of this because it makes

3422
02:30:44,520 --> 02:30:47,520
sense you know it is an economic sense

3423
02:30:47,520 --> 02:30:49,920
here too and I again I hope that we

3424
02:30:49,920 --> 02:30:53,160
don't have to appeal to the uh economics

3425
02:30:53,160 --> 02:30:55,020
in order for people to see the value in

3426
02:30:55,020 --> 02:30:56,040
this because we're talking about human

3427
02:30:56,040 --> 02:30:58,920
lives but if we need to go to that level

3428
02:30:58,920 --> 02:31:01,500
it's there as well it's pretty sad so I

3429
02:31:01,500 --> 02:31:04,200
never thought so they're just looking

3430
02:31:04,200 --> 02:31:06,020
for a support resolution

3431
02:31:06,020 --> 02:31:09,060
towards the assembly Honda Center to

3432
02:31:09,060 --> 02:31:12,479
resolution I want to be dispatchable she

3433
02:31:12,479 --> 02:31:14,280
would say I probably recommend a

3434
02:31:14,280 --> 02:31:15,420
statement support to where it's

3435
02:31:15,420 --> 02:31:17,040
currently still needed at so it's safe

3436
02:31:17,040 --> 02:31:19,140
to be assimilate but one to bring it

3437
02:31:19,140 --> 02:31:22,439
back uh in two weeks for uh

3438
02:31:22,439 --> 02:31:24,600
discussion but at this point I just

3439
02:31:24,600 --> 02:31:27,600
wanted to kind of approach the topic see

3440
02:31:27,600 --> 02:31:29,460
that there are any opinions or comments

3441
02:31:29,460 --> 02:31:30,800
or concerns

3442
02:31:30,800 --> 02:31:33,000
trying to do all the content as a

3443
02:31:33,000 --> 02:31:34,920
conservative cursive

3444
02:31:34,920 --> 02:31:37,200
and then bring it back to us

3445
02:31:37,200 --> 02:31:39,840
president program okay so um there was

3446
02:31:39,840 --> 02:31:41,819
also and I'll share this article with

3447
02:31:41,819 --> 02:31:44,399
everyone there's a there was a panel and

3448
02:31:44,399 --> 02:31:46,439
they're talking about how things like

3449
02:31:46,439 --> 02:31:49,859
act will address the workforce so as Mr

3450
02:31:49,859 --> 02:31:51,720
Williams has said for us to just take a

3451
02:31:51,720 --> 02:31:53,100
look at the information that's provided

3452
02:31:53,100 --> 02:31:55,620
for us visit this website formulate any

3453
02:31:55,620 --> 02:31:58,380
other questions we have and also to I

3454
02:31:58,380 --> 02:32:00,300
would forward this and also about the

3455
02:32:00,300 --> 02:32:02,460
New York State Business Council just so

3456
02:32:02,460 --> 02:32:05,520
we have all the information in making an

3457
02:32:05,520 --> 02:32:08,520
informed decision as as

3458
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:10,859
in terms of whether we think it proven

3459
02:32:10,859 --> 02:32:12,600
to support this particular piece of

3460
02:32:12,600 --> 02:32:15,720
legislation so so I'll forward that and

3461
02:32:15,720 --> 02:32:17,460
any other information that I have so

3462
02:32:17,460 --> 02:32:18,979
that you'll have all the information

3463
02:32:18,979 --> 02:32:21,240
today we talked about the power of

3464
02:32:21,240 --> 02:32:25,380
language and how language matters and I guess I have another issue with this

3465
02:32:25,380 --> 02:32:26,819
besides the fact that we have the

3466
02:32:26,819 --> 02:32:28,680
convincing people um it's also like kind

3467
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:30,420
of the language I think clean sleep

3468
02:32:30,420 --> 02:32:32,819
doesn't really capture it because it's

3469
02:32:32,819 --> 02:32:36,060
almost as if we're wiping away you know

3470
02:32:36,060 --> 02:32:38,340
someone's deep but that's not what we're

3471
02:32:38,340 --> 02:32:40,560
doing here they've already they've

3472
02:32:40,560 --> 02:32:42,359
provided us as prep that maybe we should

3473
02:32:42,359 --> 02:32:44,280
have knives talk to them about coming up

3474
02:32:44,280 --> 02:32:47,349
with a better

3475
02:32:47,359 --> 02:32:49,500
Billboards are not at that but really

3476
02:32:49,500 --> 02:32:51,840
clean sleep is kind of suggestive of

3477
02:32:51,840 --> 02:32:53,460
something that this doesn't represent

3478
02:32:53,460 --> 02:32:55,140
this is this is after someone has

3479
02:32:55,140 --> 02:32:57,540
already paid their debt to society

3480
02:32:57,540 --> 02:33:01,020
um uh in full and then there's some time

3481
02:33:01,020 --> 02:33:04,620
after that you know so again this isn't

3482
02:33:04,620 --> 02:33:07,439
uh wiping anyone sleep clean if anything

3483
02:33:07,439 --> 02:33:08,939
it's just really

3484
02:33:08,939 --> 02:33:11,040
it's a community benefit that we can get

3485
02:33:11,040 --> 02:33:13,140
a more qualified robust Workforce going

3486
02:33:13,140 --> 02:33:14,819
so

3487
02:33:14,819 --> 02:33:16,439
okay so we'll look to bring that back in

3488
02:33:16,439 --> 02:33:17,819
a couple weeks and talk discuss it

3489
02:33:17,819 --> 02:33:20,520
further after the council has had

3490
02:33:20,520 --> 02:33:23,120
time to research it

3491
02:33:23,120 --> 02:33:26,460
like the entertainment motion surgery

3492
02:33:26,460 --> 02:33:37,190
seconds

3493
02:33:37,200 --> 02:33:41,040
vacation

3494
02:33:41,050 --> 02:33:47,330
[Music]

3495
02:33:47,340 --> 02:33:51,319
oh we just adjourned the California