[0:10] thank you
[0:12] [Music]
[0:34] foreign
[0:54] I'd like to call the city council
[0:55] committee meeting to order for Tuesday
[0:57] January 3rd 2023 happy New Year everyone
[1:01] happy New Year happy New Year and uh
[1:04] we're going to start first of all with
[1:05] Public Safety I'd like to call the
[1:07] Public Safety Committee to order we have
[1:09] one item on the agenda tonight that is
[1:11] excellent standards and I'll be
[1:12] presented by Chiefs
[1:18] foreign
[1:21] thank you very much
[1:23] I'm here tonight to uh to ask for the
[1:27] authority to enter through a contract
[1:28] with axon for a software program called
[1:31] axon standards
[1:33] we we knew about axon Sanders when we
[1:36] went with axon late last year however it
[1:41] wasn't up to the point where we could
[1:43] actually enter an agreement with them
[1:44] because it is a new product for them
[1:47] that comes with the officer safety plan
[1:50] there is a configuration and small
[1:53] additional fee that goes along with it
[1:56] and to just to tell you what axon
[1:57] standards is
[1:59] it's software as a service where they
[2:02] will develop for us a variety of
[2:05] different forms that could be used to
[2:08] electronically enter information and
[2:10] then we could use that information for
[2:12] data analytics later on
[2:14] forms would be such as use of force
[2:16] forms vehicle Pursuits vehicle
[2:19] collisions internal complaints citizen
[2:22] complaints
[2:24] Internal Affairs investigative case
[2:27] management things along these lines
[2:29] there are there is the ability to add
[2:32] additional customized forms of course
[2:35] that would um that would be an
[2:37] additional amount the cost for this is a
[2:40] fifteen thousand dollar implementation
[2:42] fee and a yearly amount of 4 276 dollars
[2:49] you are not asking for uh for any budget
[2:52] amendment we do have the money within
[2:54] our budget through our grant sources and
[2:58] also we're just looking to for the
[3:01] authority to move forward with this at
[3:03] this time
[3:04] okay thank you for the overview Chief um
[3:07] just before we start I'm doing that
[3:08] opportunity it said it's weird not
[3:10] having two seater in the room tonight
[3:12] I appreciate years of service and look
[3:15] forward to the next individuals tapping
[3:17] into that role I wanted to know if you
[3:19] could just identify a any agreement it
[3:22] talked about how there were aspects that
[3:25] could potentially be outside of the
[3:26] school for this project do you foresee
[3:28] any of those burdens coming up are those
[3:31] being issues moving forward
[3:35] um you mean
[3:36] additional forms that would need to be
[3:38] created on page 11 the change order as
[3:41] said the following are considered
[3:43] outside of this whole bit of project and
[3:45] would be a cost Associated to the city
[3:47] automatics
[3:49] I didn't know if any of those items were
[3:51] applicable to this project
[4:12] thank you
[4:24] okay uh now I can better answer this so
[4:26] no basically what they're telling us is
[4:28] that we would have to manage the
[4:31] implementation of it on our end through
[4:33] RIT and uh you know RIT administrator up
[4:36] along card has been made aware of this
[4:38] and sees no issues with it perfect thank
[4:40] you any questions or comments from
[4:43] council members
[4:53] [Applause]
[4:57] access license fee the standard access
[5:00] license
[5:02] is showing forty thousand four forty six
[5:08] that is on page two of the credit cards
[5:12] the performance invoice so I mean that's
[5:15] the total over the nine years
[5:21] it's a fifteen thousand plus that the
[5:24] four thousands a year going forward so
[5:26] that is the 55 yes on the net force base
[5:29] yeah that that's what's broken down over
[5:31] the I believe eight years and we also
[5:35] would have the ability to break down the
[5:37] fifteen thousand over the same eight
[5:38] years but I think that we would plan on
[5:41] just paying that and have keeping the
[5:42] cost low of 4 200 a year
[5:45] yep thank you and if there are any other
[5:49] comments um I had one final question
[5:52] I didn't see in the packet speaking to
[5:54] when the project was start and the
[5:55] intended end date would you have a
[5:58] time frame of mind sure
[6:01] um sorry about that we need to put that
[6:02] in there the um
[6:04] there it's expected to be eight months
[6:07] from the time that we are able to sign
[6:08] with them so we're expecting that once
[6:11] this goes through the legislative
[6:12] process and we're able to sign it
[6:14] might be close to February so we
[6:17] probably wouldn't be seeing this
[6:19] implemented until fall roughly October
[6:21] range
[6:23] perfect
[6:24] thank you for any other questions or
[6:27] comments
[6:31] bye thank you thank you are there any
[6:34] other items to the Falls of the Safety
[6:35] Committee
[6:36] second awesome favorite touch
[6:41] um
[6:47] is request the authorization to purchase
[6:50] chlorine gas 2023 or the water
[6:53] department
[6:59] thank you
[7:05] I don't know if I have all the places
[7:07] here either
[7:08] so
[7:10] I'm missing part of the back but then
[7:12] we'll have the oddpages
[7:33] on an annual basis
[7:35] uh requests for bids for chlorine gas
[7:40] this bid was put out while was returned
[7:43] on December 28 2022 for chlorine gas
[7:47] 2023. one bid was received by jci Jones
[7:51] chemicals Inc of Sarasota Florida and
[7:54] the amount of
[7:56] 109 500
[7:59] so this is looking for authorization to
[8:02] purchase
[8:04] the 150 pound cylinder unit
[8:08] to cover 365 150 pound cylinder units
[8:13] from jci Jones chemicals Inc from 109
[8:16] 500.
[8:30] three now
[8:33] I'm going to ask a question or comments
[8:36] do you mind finishing up he wasn't here
[8:38] when we started finishing this item and
[8:39] then we'll finish okay any questions in
[8:42] regards to item number one
[8:45] so
[8:46] um do you know if this is uh someone
[8:48] you've used before I don't know offhand
[8:52] I don't know if the city clerk has any
[8:54] recollection from
[8:56] previous years when opening up the It's
[9:00] usually the same
[9:05] chemicals
[9:07] they're the best
[9:10] okay any other questions
[9:17] all in favor
[9:21] okay so our next item on the agenda is
[9:24] request authorization to purchase liquid
[9:26] sodium
[9:27] um I'm gonna super pronounce that around
[9:30] for the restarted treatment plan
[9:35] but he's not here so I have it um so the
[9:38] city put out and forbid a request for
[9:41] bids for liquid sodium disulfite as it
[9:44] does on an annual basis sees um for the
[9:48] treatment of waste water in the city uh
[9:50] on December 28 2022 low business
[9:53] received from Holland Company Inc in the
[9:56] amount of seventy four thousand four
[9:58] hundred dollars
[10:00] the request is to authorize a purchase
[10:04] order to Holland Company Inc in the
[10:07] amount of seventy four thousand four
[10:08] hundred dollars for liquid sodium
[10:11] sulfite for 2023 to treat our waste
[10:14] water
[10:19] um so on the on the list the company
[10:21] names I don't see the company that we're choosing on this list it's
[10:27] the first one
[10:29] Shannon chemical no Holland company H5
[10:32] yeah but on this
[10:34] um
[10:38] I don't know if you're missing pages on
[10:41] this no I'm not I mean I'm just looking
[10:44] at the numbers what I have here and this
[10:45] is my issue right now is I have page 27
[10:47] and then page 29.
[10:49] so I don't necessarily know if I'm
[10:53] missing pages or this page one page the
[10:55] page with Shannon is the next resolution
[10:59] the number three on our agenda oh okay
[11:03] cool so we're all right it does seem
[11:05] like we're missing a couple of things so
[11:10] um
[11:10] looking at the documentation that we
[11:13] have
[11:14] um but I have numbers page 29 that was
[11:18] 27-29 Holland Company Inc did submitter
[11:22] of Adams Massachusetts you can see who
[11:24] requested
[11:26] um so this was put on bitten up it
[11:28] appears who requested the
[11:31] um the request for Biz right they are
[11:34] one of them
[11:36] um certainly we can follow up
[11:38] um I don't know if it was in the packet
[11:40] to begin with
[11:42] the information bed sheet right that
[11:45] you're always looking for
[11:47] um I don't have it in my pocket here
[11:50] I thought it was that one but it's the
[11:52] next one so
[11:53] I can make a suggestion a suggestion if
[11:56] we can maybe if we want to take a five
[11:58] minute break to see if we can print
[11:59] everything out okay if that makes sense
[12:02] before we do that I just is this the
[12:05] same company um Mr Farm was talking
[12:06] about before that this was pretty much
[12:08] the only company that uh that offers
[12:11] this I believe that was for the chlorine
[12:13] gas because I know that is much more
[12:15] difficult because we use chlorine as a
[12:18] gas as opposed to other municipalities
[12:20] that use it in a different form
[12:23] yeah I'm saying yeah right so Miss
[12:26] Michael is going to print out the page
[12:27] so that we should make sure that we have
[12:28] all the documentation as we're passing
[12:30] this stuff so
[12:34] anybody want anything
[12:37] okay thank you
[12:41] foreign
[12:44] [Music]
[12:46] number five government operations is
[12:49] related to 1134 Albany Street I realized
[12:52] that I didn't print out a couple of
[12:53] things that would be helpful for the
[12:55] council's consideration so I'm just
[12:56] going to pass that out to you all
[13:04] thank you
[13:18] just
[13:30] oh okay you can see where it is
[13:35] right now yeah
[13:57] for New Years
[14:02] thank you
[14:11] from
[14:19] um
[14:26] rules that's not what I do and we
[14:29] prepare the documents
[14:32] [Music]
[14:34] is
[14:38] the organizations
[14:52] no because they're not Contracting with
[14:54] an individuals
[14:57] [Music]
[15:51] we are on agenda item number two
[15:57] all right I think you have all the
[15:59] information now okay
[16:00] um
[16:01] so the city annually puts out the bid
[16:05] um a requester bid a liquid sodium
[16:08] bisulfite uh it's used in the treatment
[16:11] of City Wastewater
[16:13] um you can see who access the list on
[16:17] page 29 if you look at page uh 27
[16:22] however back on December 28 2022
[16:27] the city received three bids
[16:30] the low the lowest bidder on this was
[16:36] pound Company Inc
[16:39] in the amount of seventy four thousand
[16:41] four hundred dollars uh there were two
[16:45] other bids that were received the city's
[16:48] looking to
[16:49] move into excuse me issue a purchase
[16:52] order to Holland Company Inc for that
[16:54] amount seventy four thousand four
[16:56] hundred dollars for the 2023 liquid
[16:58] sodium phosphate disulfide
[17:03] okay any questions depends around that
[17:06] I'll move this second what was the paper
[17:18] acid for the water department
[17:21] all right I'm going to say one time
[17:24] Hydro fluocilacillus yeah
[17:28] [Music]
[17:34] um again this is uh used this is a
[17:37] request for bid we put out every year to
[17:40] see this again for the treatment of city
[17:41] water
[17:42] it went out
[17:44] back actually requests were due um and
[17:48] we're open on December 28 2022 you can
[17:51] see on a numbered page 32 those
[17:54] businesses that requested the documents
[17:59] for the bid when the bid was open there
[18:02] were two bidders who had submitted
[18:05] the lowest bidder on this was Univar
[18:10] Solutions USA Inc of Morrisville
[18:12] Pennsylvania in the amount of fifty four
[18:14] thousand eighty dollars
[18:17] the request is for the committee to move
[18:22] ahead for a resolution uh The Authority
[18:25] for the American issue of purchase order
[18:26] to Univar Solutions USA Inc in the
[18:28] amount of fifty four thousand eighty
[18:30] dollars
[18:31] questions and comments
[18:34] um this is the same company that we
[18:35] always use I believe this is definitely
[18:37] the company that we used last year I
[18:39] don't know about priors like years prior
[18:41] to that but I I do recall this company
[18:43] previously yeah
[18:45] and it's just an increase over last year
[18:51] it may be an increase we can go back and
[18:54] take a look at the resolution that was
[18:55] authorized last year to see how it
[18:58] compares
[19:03] I'm pretty sure everything went up this
[19:05] year
[19:08] on this
[19:10] I'm moving I'll second well there's a
[19:13] favor hi
[19:15] so we are on the report now uh item on
[19:19] the agenda it's just a reminder that we
[19:21] are amending uh chapter 183 or include
[19:24] the city code
[19:26] um for businesses required contains or
[19:27] certificates and that's going to be held
[19:30] on the 9th right after the state of the
[19:32] city
[19:34] I have to say this city so that's just
[19:36] reminded of the public hearing will need
[19:37] help
[19:39] [Music]
[19:44] and our last item on the agenda um is
[19:48] pertains a lot with you I mean we were
[19:50] mentioning something earlier about that
[19:51] Mr Andrew I just passed out some
[19:54] information that might be a bit more
[19:56] helpful okay okay so Mr Coleman thank
[20:00] you
[20:01] um this is
[20:03] a bit of a request that doesn't
[20:05] typically come up
[20:07] um we are currently involved in a tax
[20:10] lien foreclosure
[20:12] covering we haven't done the taxing
[20:14] foreclosures since the last time I did
[20:15] it was 2018 into the beginning of 2019
[20:18] then covet happened and it you know
[20:21] delayed
[20:22] um you know pursuant to the executive
[20:24] orders one we could do tasseling
[20:26] foreclosures so we're in the middle of
[20:28] the passing foreclosure covers years
[20:30] 2020 2019 and 2018 those are new the
[20:34] first time we've done a foreclosure of
[20:36] those Lanes there are also some older
[20:38] liens that are still that were still
[20:41] foreclosing on uh one of the properties
[20:44] that we're foreclosing on is 1134 Albany
[20:47] Street
[20:48] um
[20:49] is known as section block section block
[20:52] and lot 4950-5-14
[20:54] [Music]
[20:56] um there have been a converted residence
[20:58] with a convenience store on the first
[21:00] floor in residential space on the second
[21:02] floor at that site until August of 2018.
[21:06] at which point uh fire ravaged the
[21:09] building due to the excessive damage
[21:11] from the fire and putting out the fire
[21:14] the city performed in an emergency
[21:16] demolition in September of 2018. so this
[21:19] happened at the uh late August 2018 uh
[21:21] the fire happened right at the beginning
[21:23] of September of 2018 the city did the
[21:26] emergency demolition the property has
[21:29] been a vacant lot since but for if you
[21:32] look in the photo there there's like a
[21:34] small Garage in the far back
[21:37] um
[21:38] the property still owned by the same
[21:40] person who owned the property back when
[21:42] the fire happened president by the name
[21:44] of nagisawa
[21:47] Lot's dimensions are 33 feet by 100 feet
[21:50] so it's not buildable as of right has to
[21:53] be 40 feet wide to be buildable as of
[21:55] right somebody would have to get a
[21:55] variance if they wanted to build a
[21:57] structure there
[21:58] is currently assessed at fifteen
[22:01] thousand two hundred dollars if you look
[22:04] at the chart that I provided it shows
[22:06] the tax amounts that are due on the
[22:08] property and it's more than just taxes
[22:10] the liens also include the cost of a
[22:14] city to do the emergency demolition with
[22:18] the
[22:19] asbestos monitoring Etc and there was
[22:23] also a water leak there that the city
[22:26] serviced so if you look there are some
[22:29] big numbers on here in 2019 there was
[22:33] the non-tax lien of 11 109 and you can
[22:37] see all the interest that's accrued on
[22:38] it and then that's the um the service
[22:41] leak
[22:43] um and then in 2020
[22:45] um there was a municipal a muse MVB a
[22:50] municipal voucher Bill converted into a
[22:53] property lien uh that 57
[22:56] 648.86 that's what's the cost to do the
[22:58] demolition
[23:00] um an attorney reached out to my office
[23:03] saying look the brother of the owner of
[23:06] this property wants to buy the property
[23:08] because he owns the property right next
[23:10] door and that property is 1132 Albany
[23:14] Street so if you're looking at this
[23:16] picture it's the building to the right
[23:20] and he wants to essentially buy a lot
[23:24] from his brother the problem is the
[23:27] property is not worth what's due tax
[23:29] wise now or lean wise so what I said I
[23:32] want to say taxi because it's more than
[23:33] just taxes it's these other liens as
[23:35] well and the city council and I gave you
[23:39] a breakdown of what those amounts are
[23:42] what's owed principal tax wise and
[23:45] they're sitting in school taxes the city
[23:47] makes the school whole and then we are
[23:50] the foreclosing entity and then once we
[23:52] buy those things so speak from the
[23:54] school district
[23:56] we would then collect anything from and
[24:00] if from somebody making payment right
[24:02] for the school liens and interest
[24:04] accrues on those leads so there's the
[24:07] principal taxes sitting in school
[24:09] there's the interest on those taxes for
[24:12] the city and school and then there's the
[24:14] principle on those non-tax lines uh and
[24:17] then there's the interest on the non-tax
[24:19] lanes right
[24:22] um
[24:23] so the owner of the excuse me the
[24:25] attorney who's representing this brother
[24:28] wants to redeem the property he wants to
[24:31] pay the taxes off for his brother so
[24:33] that they can well he can buy the
[24:36] property by just paying the taxes off
[24:38] however when you do the math it just
[24:41] doesn't make Financial sense for him to
[24:43] do it
[24:44] um
[24:44] the city council has the ability to
[24:48] waive interest that's accrued for both
[24:52] the tax liens and also those
[24:54] non-toslines the city council can also
[24:57] discharge the non-tax lanes which we the
[25:02] MVB for the water service and the MVB
[25:04] amount for the the fire demolition the
[25:08] city council cannot do anything related
[25:11] to the principle for the tax liens
[25:14] themselves
[25:16] um those have to be paid and that amount
[25:19] would be sixteen thousand two hundred
[25:20] and twenty four dollars and eight cents
[25:23] um this is as I mentioned this property
[25:26] is a vacant lot
[25:28] um
[25:29] I think generally the council has an
[25:31] idea of how much we typically sell a
[25:33] vacant lot for particularly one that's
[25:34] not buildable you know I can throw a
[25:37] number out there and you know maybe it's
[25:41] what you're thinking somewhere in the
[25:42] ballpark of twenty five hundred dollars
[25:44] maybe five thousand dollars per vacant
[25:46] lot five thousand is actually a stretch
[25:48] particularly when it's not buildable
[25:51] um if we take this in foreclosure
[25:54] we would then eventually you know have a
[25:57] vacant lot available for somebody to buy
[25:58] which is fine that happens but since
[26:01] this attorney reached out to me I wanted
[26:03] to bring it to the safe Nelson's
[26:05] attention to see if the city council was
[26:07] inclined to
[26:09] discharge the two mdvs the one related
[26:13] to the fire demo and the one related to
[26:15] the water service work that was done
[26:19] and waived the interest on those lanes
[26:23] and also the tax Lanes
[26:25] uh this person would still be
[26:27] responsible for paying 16 the principal
[26:30] and taxes which is sixteen thousand two
[26:32] hundred and twenty four dollars and
[26:33] eight cents in order to redeem it
[26:36] [Music]
[26:38] so are in
[26:41] it sounds like the right uh
[26:44] physical decision to make on
[26:47] you were saying the distance is
[26:48] something that I know
[26:50] occurs
[26:52] frequently all right how many times have
[26:54] you done something like this this has as
[26:56] far as I know I can remember not not
[26:59] this this has not occurred as far as I
[27:01] know something like this there was one
[27:04] instance
[27:06] trying to think well there was an
[27:08] instance where the city council had the
[27:09] ability to waive I think some interest
[27:11] for
[27:13] um I think it was some Churches at one
[27:15] point for not-for-profits because they
[27:17] didn't file the correct paperwork and
[27:20] then there was also some state law that was years and years ago this is
[27:25] remarkably different yeah
[27:27] um you know I can't tell the council
[27:30] what to do in this I can just present
[27:32] you with the offer and I can tell you as
[27:35] I said if we sell this property it's
[27:37] probably going to be the ballpark of you
[27:39] know if we take it and then sell it a
[27:41] lot I would imagine the way we saw
[27:43] vacant Lots sometimes is going to be in
[27:45] the ballpark of 2500 maybe even five
[27:47] thousand dollars maybe
[27:49] um
[27:50] the taxes the principal taxes don't go
[27:53] away
[27:54] um if you get rid of the interest and
[27:57] get rid of you know the non-tasks tests
[28:01] lean amount
[28:03] um
[28:03] the principal would still have to be
[28:05] paid six over sixteen thousand dollars
[28:07] so
[28:09] um you know I don't I know we like
[28:11] sometimes words like prostheticus thrown
[28:13] around this isn't really one of those
[28:15] scenarios this is very unique
[28:16] circumstance because there's no
[28:19] structure there
[28:20] um you know it's just really and it
[28:23] doesn't create you know it doesn't
[28:26] create anything legally that you know
[28:29] somebody's going to come back to you and
[28:31] well you did it in this scenario the
[28:33] scenario is very unique
[28:36] but it's completely up to the Council of
[28:38] how it wants to happen
[28:43] perfect so the brother owns 1132 the
[28:47] building next door so the person who
[28:50] wants to buy the but pay off the taxes
[28:53] he owns 11.32.
[28:56] so proprietor I'm sorry he's the only
[28:58] one who's the only one on this on the D
[29:00] correct so yes I believe he is the only
[29:03] one on the deed from what I saw
[29:06] come right
[29:09] so the second part is so what would stop
[29:13] him from you know getting this and
[29:15] somehow transferring it back to his
[29:16] brother he could potentially do it but
[29:19] he would still have to pay the sixteen
[29:21] thousand dollars off
[29:23] in like there because all he would be
[29:25] doing is redeeming
[29:28] all I'm asking you know the responses to
[29:31] as I said wave
[29:34] um the the interest
[29:36] and discharge the MVB the two mvbs uh
[29:41] the principal so that the brother can
[29:43] then redeem the parcel or the property
[29:46] owner can redeem the parcel and sell it
[29:48] to his brother he still would have to
[29:49] come up with sixteen thousand dollars
[29:52] and you know a little over sixteen
[29:54] thousand dollars
[29:56] um
[29:57] that doesn't prevent you know it
[30:00] honestly doesn't prevent the brother
[30:01] from keeping a vacant lot
[30:03] you know he would then have to pay taxes
[30:06] on it and all that this is merely a
[30:08] question and you know every time we were
[30:10] like you know what you're getting at
[30:11] it's merely a question of whether or not
[30:14] um the city wants to potentially take
[30:17] the property in foreclosure and then
[30:20] um sell it for less than what could be
[30:24] what it would be redeemed for
[30:26] thank you
[30:32] think you could we negotiate with the
[30:34] attorney that wants it at least recover
[30:35] the demolition fee and the water since
[30:38] we kind of paid that out in
[30:41] we could it doesn't seem as if from
[30:44] talking to the attorney
[30:47] um it's going to happen that way you
[30:49] know he he reached out to me the brother
[30:52] doesn't see the value in paying
[30:56] you know 68
[30:59] 757.86 for a lot that can't be built
[31:03] upon
[31:05] um as I said you know
[31:07] he just doesn't make it doesn't make
[31:09] Financial sense for him to do that
[31:12] the only things are there on the
[31:15] property right now are the the tax
[31:16] leaning and the two other liens right
[31:18] there's no other claims of all these
[31:20] properties
[31:22] um I can't speak to any other inter I
[31:24] can only talk about the tax Lanes I
[31:27] can't speak to a mortgage or anything
[31:29] like that you know but when we do a
[31:32] foreclosure it you know anybody who has
[31:35] an interest in the property mortgage
[31:37] company judgment debtor or judgment
[31:39] creditor rather their interest is
[31:42] foreclosed because we have to provide
[31:43] them with notice Etc our tax liens are
[31:46] at the top of the list
[31:47] all right we have priority over those
[31:50] other creditors
[31:52] [Music]
[31:53] that answer the question yeah
[31:57] just to follow that did before close on
[31:59] this property I love you we're currently
[32:01] in the process of the Foreclosure right
[32:03] so you don't have a list of all the
[32:05] vaccines all of these against us
[32:07] property I have a list of the liens
[32:10] these are our links I don't have a list
[32:13] of all the other leads I don't get that
[32:15] what I get from when we do the searching
[32:18] for it our pump the company that does
[32:20] the search for us tells us only who has
[32:22] to who we have to serve right there's a
[32:25] mortgage on the property this is the
[32:26] company you have to serve we don't see
[32:28] the the document the mortgage document
[32:30] we don't see any of that so we don't
[32:33] know the amount to our Windows it might
[32:34] be a judgment creditor but we don't see
[32:36] what the Judgment amount is we just see
[32:39] that we need to serve this individual or
[32:41] this entity
[32:46] foreign
[32:54] they're in good standing with the city
[32:56] right now correct there are um from what
[32:59] I could tell though well I can tell you
[33:01] there is no taxes due on this property
[33:04] next door it's not subject to
[33:05] foreclosure they're not behind on taxes
[33:08] um and any and I think there's one other
[33:10] parcel that's owned by this person no
[33:12] taxes are owed I couldn't find any open
[33:14] code violations so no issues on that
[33:18] front
[33:23] so would it be possible to require them
[33:28] to
[33:30] consolidate the vacant parcel with his
[33:34] the buyer's property that way it might
[33:37] alleviate some of the concerns about
[33:40] giving it back to the brother yeah I
[33:42] understand that
[33:44] um that's a good question I've been
[33:45] thinking about that I don't think we can
[33:47] do it in this scenario because
[33:51] either the council
[33:52] um
[33:54] either the council just trying because
[33:56] it's not like a property sale where we
[33:58] can hold it under contract to say it has
[34:00] to be Consolidated as this isn't that
[34:02] scenario this is just is the council
[34:05] going to you know waive the interest and
[34:08] discharge the those non-tass Lanes
[34:12] um
[34:13] I would I would certainly you know I
[34:15] know the attorney uh obviously and I
[34:18] think a lot of us may know that attorney
[34:19] I would tell him this is something that
[34:21] you know we want to see happen it makes
[34:23] more sense but because
[34:28] um it will be redeemed before the
[34:30] property is actually transferred and
[34:32] that's a private transaction I can't
[34:34] require that
[34:36] [Applause]
[34:42] [Music]
[34:46] any other thoughts questions
[34:50] that's amazing that for me is like I
[34:53] mean one of the major concerns that I
[34:55] don't know I mean I don't have anything
[34:57] family should be and you know help each
[34:59] other but I have concerns that somehow
[35:01] this is
[35:03] gonna really end up back with the person
[35:04] who you know had all these charges had
[35:07] all these days right
[35:10] and I'm sorry if I can just comment on
[35:13] that
[35:14] um you know to be fair this
[35:16] um to that person that fire that I mean
[35:18] obviously some of these taxes go back
[35:21] um you know well actually
[35:22] taxes in 2018 weren't too bad but when
[35:26] that fire happened
[35:28] um obviously on that fire I believe
[35:30] happened in um just uh 2018. yeah so
[35:35] they were I've been pretty good with
[35:37] your taxes up until the point of fires
[35:40] and then it didn't make sense I didn't
[35:42] get away for them you know for paying
[35:44] taxes on property with this structure
[35:48] and it's not worth because remember the
[35:50] assessment always comes before the tax
[35:53] year right
[35:55] um so in 2019 when that fire happened
[35:59] um
[36:00] and then in 2020 it was still being I
[36:04] think seen as a structure still being
[36:06] there since it was based on the previous
[36:09] year the previous year the assessment
[36:11] right so the 2019 assessment year
[36:15] impacted obviously the 2020 taxes
[36:19] right this is It's the lag that kind of
[36:22] happens with it
[36:23] um you know that's what I think in a way
[36:26] this person who owns this property at
[36:29] 1134 Albany Street without a structure
[36:32] being there
[36:34] um it didn't make sense honestly I think
[36:36] for that person to you know I'm going to
[36:39] pay the city 57 000 for the Emergency
[36:42] demo I don't have one I don't have the
[36:44] funds to pay that amount
[36:46] um I'll just lose it in foreclosure
[36:49] um you know it's it's difficult right
[36:53] um
[36:54] you know to be to be honest I think what
[36:57] happens on the back end if the city
[36:59] takes us in foreclosure chances are
[37:01] we're going to try to sell it to an
[37:03] adjacent property owner yeah and I don't
[37:06] anything there it could be the other
[37:07] side or it could be somebody else who
[37:09] you know seeks out of variance because
[37:12] they actually want to build there as
[37:13] possible has happened before and you
[37:16] know sometimes they can get the variance
[37:18] but as I said this is a very unique
[37:21] circumstance in that you know this
[37:24] person would still have to pay the six
[37:25] over sixteen thousand dollars to redeem
[37:27] the property uh and it's a property that
[37:30] you know would be difficult for the city
[37:32] to
[37:34] sell for more than five thousand dollars
[37:36] so
[37:38] I'm sorry I just want to say that I
[37:40] think that I hear the concerns but it
[37:42] seems to me like I wonder if the person
[37:45] currently is the owner the brother or
[37:47] the person who would be giving us the
[37:49] over sixteen thousand dollars would even
[37:51] want the property back I mean it sounds
[37:53] like
[37:54] he's disregarded it for this this many
[37:56] years
[37:57] um this few years I should say but I I
[38:00] feel like it's almost like a bird in the
[38:01] hand kind of situation where I would
[38:04] agree that we're going to get if we get
[38:06] over sixteen thousand dollars for this
[38:08] um to me that's a windfall versus you
[38:12] know what we could possibly sell it for
[38:14] realistically so I know I'm not on the
[38:16] committee but I I would be in favor of us moving forward with the
[38:21] recommendation as presented
[38:28] any other questions comments on this
[38:32] entertaining motion
[38:34] a motion for that so
[38:38] it's a way of the non-tax claim waive
[38:43] the interests on the taxes and aware of
[38:45] the interest and the non-backed slave
[38:47] exactly so what it says in the bottom
[38:49] sixteen thousand right to discharge the
[38:52] non-passen through 2019 and 2020
[38:55] respectively and waive the interest on
[38:57] 2018 through 2021 non-tass lanes and tax
[39:01] links as applied to 1134 Albany Street
[39:04] so it's getting rid of all interests is
[39:07] only the only thing that will be
[39:08] remaining is the principle of the tax
[39:11] liens
[39:16] foreign
[39:32] [Music]
[39:57] hi
[40:03] call to order Finance on the first item
[40:05] is a reminder for the homes
[40:08] ARP the historical allocation plan for
[40:12] the home Consortium that's a reminder of
[40:14] public hearing should be held on the
[40:17] January 9th because next Monday
[40:20] the next item is the application for
[40:24] ReStore New York around 7th grad so we
[40:26] had a public Hearing in 1227.
[40:29] are there any comments regarding this
[40:35] seeing them
[40:40] a reminder I believe
[40:47] all in favor
[40:51] the next item is update our allocation
[40:54] Miss Porterfield thank you so Mr told me
[40:58] to speak to a couple of the subjective
[41:01] items going on here
[41:04] um
[41:04] so the
[41:06] small Department
[41:09] sent out a direct agreement to various
[41:12] departments to get input on the you know
[41:17] the applicant excuse me the agreements
[41:19] that are ready to go out those were
[41:21] there aren't any contingencies those
[41:22] that are strictly programmatic
[41:25] we got some feedback from the
[41:28] development department
[41:30] the draft agreements were modified today
[41:34] they went back over to the development
[41:36] department this afternoon the
[41:38] development department I believe we're
[41:40] going to move I know Danbury from
[41:43] developments here I believe we're going
[41:45] to move ahead and get those rapid
[41:46] agreements out in the next day or two to
[41:50] those organizations so that they can
[41:52] review it one of the things that did go
[41:54] out a while back is probably a month ago
[41:56] there was a letter that went out to
[41:59] those organizations that
[42:02] were appropriated funds for for their
[42:07] projects
[42:10] they're as part of that there was a
[42:12] checklist that was
[42:15] um I think sent with the letter
[42:17] requesting certain documentation so we
[42:20] could have things in hand and be ready
[42:21] to go even for those organizations that
[42:23] had contingencies related to you know
[42:25] raising other funds so that they you
[42:27] know once they got the funds in place we
[42:29] would already have the other
[42:30] documentation we needed so we can just
[42:32] kind of you know enter into contract my
[42:35] understanding is some organizations have
[42:38] provided us with all the documentation
[42:39] uh so it'll be easier for us to enter
[42:41] into those agreements sooner rather than
[42:44] later particularly those that don't have
[42:46] contingencies
[42:48] some of them have not submitted their
[42:52] documentation that was requested
[42:54] I believe Mr spray from the development
[42:58] department could speak a bit more to
[42:59] those documents
[43:02] otherwise
[43:03] I know there was a question related to
[43:09] um
[43:10] what funds have to be or what
[43:13] contingencies existed particularly those
[43:15] funds that had to be raised by certain
[43:16] organizations in order to
[43:20] um
[43:21] you know essentially get the other
[43:22] funding from the city
[43:24] um I don't know what if the council has
[43:26] received anything on that it has yes so
[43:29] what um witness Mike who is provided to
[43:31] every council member is actually a copy
[43:33] of the resolution and within the
[43:34] resolution as you read through the
[43:36] resolves it tells you you know what the
[43:38] contingencies are so we are going
[43:41] working on putting it into a spreadsheet
[43:43] format but for this Patrick assets last
[43:45] time so the information is there just
[43:47] have to read and that's one of the
[43:50] resolutions the other resolution did not
[43:52] mention the contingencies it just said
[43:56] that the council appropriated the funds
[43:58] and authorized contracts only with
[44:01] non-contingency organizations but we
[44:04] could obviously go in and fill in the
[44:07] blanks in terms of what the
[44:08] contingencies are for those
[44:10] organizations that do have them
[44:13] uh with that I don't know if you'd like
[44:15] Mr Gray to speak to
[44:17] Instagram we can just add to the first
[44:20] resolution that we pass with regards to
[44:22] the course of application uh Patrick but
[44:26] uh there's a two organization that had
[44:29] contingency available Deeds on the force
[44:32] of them second resolution this one has
[44:35] dates one year from the award so we'll
[44:38] have to amend the next cycle
[44:41] for these two organization to add the
[44:44] one year didn't we do that at our last
[44:46] community no we didn't we held up
[44:47] because we wanted a list of all the
[44:49] project with contingencies right okay so
[44:51] we have
[44:52] so we'll put it in Excel format and just
[44:55] distributed across okay bro this this
[44:58] does it for me oh this doesn't for you
[45:00] yeah yeah
[45:06] thank you
[45:16] so
[45:17] um I guess you're looking to have some
[45:19] updates on where we stand with the arpa
[45:22] funding um as Andrew pointed out you
[45:25] know we sent out letters the Mayors all
[45:26] sent out letters with a list of
[45:28] different things we were looking to get
[45:30] prior to entering contract
[45:34] those things were primarily related
[45:36] around policies and procedures and
[45:37] internal controls within organizations
[45:39] this is federal money so
[45:43] um
[45:44] part two CFR 200 kind of dictates what
[45:47] is required of agencies to have internal
[45:50] controls and how they procure contracts
[45:53] and things like that so we ask for the
[45:55] policies and procedures around that um
[45:56] you know there's there's Federal
[45:59] Regulations around anti-discrimination
[46:01] laws we ask that agencies provide that
[46:04] information as well
[46:06] um
[46:07] and then you know some agencies got the
[46:09] amount of money they requested some
[46:11] agencies got less
[46:13] um so we asked for updated Scopes will
[46:15] work
[46:16] um any agency that was looking for more
[46:18] of a kind of construction related things
[46:21] like the Carver Community Center is an
[46:23] example
[46:24] um we're looking to get the actual
[46:26] construction documents on the complete
[46:28] budget a lot of these agencies when they
[46:30] applied for the funding they didn't
[46:31] necessarily have a lot of things in
[46:32] place so we were trying to look to
[46:34] collect kind of all that information
[46:36] prior to you know entering an agreement
[46:40] or at least entering a conversation
[46:42] about those things prior to you
[46:50] questions related to that
[46:54] so that's going on right now and to what
[46:56] is do you always ask the third time do
[46:59] you have a time um so there's there's a
[47:01] couple agencies that have submitted
[47:02] everything uh most are working to
[47:05] pull it all together
[47:08] um you know different groups are
[47:10] different stages I can't speak off the
[47:13] top of my head at this point in time who
[47:15] stands where but
[47:17] you know as we get the paperwork in and
[47:19] the information in we'll certainly work
[47:21] on getting the contracts out you know
[47:22] the law Department sent over to draft
[47:23] agreement today
[47:27] so
[47:28] and nothing should prevent the draft
[47:32] agreement for going out now to again we
[47:35] waited for feedback from the development
[47:37] department and I went to another
[47:39] department as well we took that feedback
[47:42] built it into the agreement
[47:45] and for those as I said for those
[47:48] organizations that are providing
[47:50] programming and not construction and
[47:52] that don't have contingencies the
[47:55] contracts are ready to go out they
[47:56] should be going out I would imagine you
[47:58] know as I said tomorrow or the day after
[48:00] that's that you know and then and
[48:03] they've already submitted those
[48:04] documents that they needed to submit as
[48:06] Mr Gray indicated the internal controls
[48:09] are important because we're dealing with
[48:10] Federal funding
[48:11] um one of the documents that we looked
[48:14] and receive was the audits at the last
[48:16] audit from those organizations some of
[48:19] them obviously have them because they're
[48:20] larger organizations as something that
[48:22] they do in their normal scope of work
[48:25] some organizations don't have audits
[48:28] they haven't done an audit recently at
[48:31] least an independent audit so we're
[48:33] working with those organizations to try
[48:35] to figure out how they can get you know
[48:37] fulfill those requirements that's kind
[48:40] of a lift for certain organizations
[48:44] any other questions regarding this
[48:51] so in two weeks we're going to bring it
[48:53] back but we want to have the spreadsheet
[48:55] and kind of where we are so it's like
[48:57] one more concise document so that will
[48:59] include then then we'll be able to talk
[49:02] about just putting the one year thing on
[49:04] the two agents okay yeah yes
[49:12] the projects that haven't been selected
[49:15] would be appropriate now to speak
[49:18] towards how and inform any projects that
[49:21] are still not receiving funding either
[49:24] letting them know where they currently
[49:26] stand with us as council members I am
[49:28] not trying to distribute more work to
[49:30] our city city officials but I think it
[49:33] is long overdue for the community that
[49:36] is waiting to at least get an updated in
[49:39] some form of fashion as to why your
[49:41] project has not been selected or ways
[49:44] and mechanisms to correct some gaps so
[49:47] that you do receive further
[49:48] consideration or we should anticipate
[49:51] hearing more
[49:52] stances from programs that have that's
[49:54] been coming to our College meetings I
[49:57] can say that a number I don't know which
[50:00] ones have and which ones haven't but you
[50:02] know most agencies that were
[50:04] anticipating and put in applications did
[50:07] look and followed closely
[50:09] where the process stood at city council
[50:12] were aware of the resolutions that were
[50:13] passed and there were a number of
[50:14] agencies that reached out and acquired
[50:17] about whether they had been funded or
[50:18] not and we did before those agencies
[50:20] that at this point in time they had not
[50:23] been selected
[50:24] not that it wouldn't be possible in the
[50:26] future but at this point in time that
[50:28] they had not been did not receive funded
[50:32] please I don't say I appreciate the work
[50:34] that uh the claim department has done on
[50:37] behalf of the council part I truly think
[50:39] that this is a narrative that our
[50:40] Council needs to bring forward to the
[50:42] city
[50:43] um I don't think we can rely on the city
[50:46] to do or speak for us because this is
[50:49] literally our responsibility
[50:51] thank you
[50:53] so miss
[50:55] so Mr ombre generally speaking like when
[50:58] we do
[51:00] cdbj and people submit an application
[51:02] and they're not funded is there a
[51:04] process that you test the people who are
[51:06] don't get funding do you normally do
[51:07] that
[51:09] yeah we usually let people know that
[51:12] they haven't funded CVG it's generally
[51:14] not many organizations usually there's
[51:18] and if they see the budget because we
[51:21] have public comment periods we have
[51:22] 30-day public hearings we do all that
[51:24] stuff so generally they're aware and but
[51:27] we do send out letters to
[51:35] any other questions I think that's a
[51:37] discussion that we would have with the
[51:39] mayor's office in terms of having staff
[51:41] send that out we can't tell the staff to
[51:43] do that or not to do that so
[51:49] but those people want to wait until the
[51:50] final application we still have some
[51:53] funding that needs to be allocated and
[51:56] then do the final letter
[51:59] oh
[52:02] foreign
[52:03] that out
[52:07] or do we formally do what what Mr Gray
[52:10] said that we just say you know you
[52:13] having fun at this point
[52:15] so there's just like at least a blanket
[52:16] leather
[52:19] I only know one I know several agents
[52:21] have reached out but I don't know that
[52:23] one that came to the council so far so
[52:25] the council meeting to advocate for uh
[52:28] for their project although that
[52:31] particular organization asks for funding
[52:33] for the project but the building that
[52:35] they wanted to be in wasn't even they
[52:37] won't be able to use the building
[52:38] because the building needs to be able to
[52:39] code so that's something else that would
[52:41] have been another cost
[52:43] so
[52:47] the mirror is that something you've
[52:49] helped into having just a general letter
[52:51] sent out to the projects that weren't
[52:52] funded at this point
[52:55] you knew that
[52:57] and then people will they know the class
[53:00] because that was just the question
[53:01] itself thank you
[53:04] go ahead and she said this is sort of a technical question around for
[53:10] agencies that whether it's cdb TV or
[53:13] this or I mean does your office provide
[53:17] some sort of you know technical
[53:19] assistance in terms of
[53:22] um
[53:23] you know maybe other funding sources
[53:25] that might be open to those um or G you
[53:29] know here's here's something that you
[53:31] might want to tweak or hear something in
[53:33] terms of planning the project that you
[53:36] know might might help you assess access
[53:39] funds from other private sources I'm
[53:42] just curious about that generally we
[53:44] don't we haven't really advocated for
[53:47] private sources you know there's there's
[53:49] sometimes grants that come up that we're
[53:51] aware of that we maybe suggest people
[53:52] look at
[53:54] um but
[53:55] um you know generally in view this kind
[53:58] of outside our scope because it's kind
[53:59] of it can be kind of difficult to speak
[54:00] for other agencies we certainly provide
[54:03] technical assistance for agencies when
[54:05] they apply to us and you don't
[54:07] necessarily fund them yeah and we
[54:09] provide them guidance and maybe how to
[54:12] you know get funding in the future
[54:15] for our funding but and it's an ongoing
[54:19] technical assistance for many agencies
[54:20] about how to manage Federal funding on
[54:23] whole right um it's not easy at any
[54:26] level a lot of times the the paperwork
[54:30] and the burden of it is overly
[54:32] cumbersome for smaller ABCs and it's
[54:34] just that's the unfortunate nature of
[54:36] Beast yeah it's it's Federal money so and we are we're
[54:42] fiscally held accountable for the
[54:44] decisions they make sure so if they make
[54:45] a mistake then we could potentially be
[54:48] in the position where we would have to
[54:50] return the money
[54:51] out of either Grant funds or some sort
[54:53] of General funds to the federal
[54:56] government
[54:57] gotcha so
[54:59] go ahead and then just so I'm clear I
[55:01] wasn't necessarily asked asking or
[55:03] suggesting that we send out a notice to
[55:05] individuals that weren't allocated it
[55:07] was one of us given programs that
[55:08] weren't selected and update on why you
[55:11] weren't selected or ways to improve your
[55:13] status
[55:15] if that's not something we're going to
[55:17] do I wouldn't want to waste
[55:20] uh generally speaking that we don't
[55:23] usually say here's how you can improve
[55:24] your application and you know it's just
[55:30] I mean then let's just just look at it
[55:33] that's like a huge lift yeah for the
[55:35] staff to say okay we've reviewed it this
[55:38] shows that and here's here's where you
[55:39] didn't do well
[55:41] so that's a lot to ask about no I don't
[55:44] I guess if if it is that there's a broad
[55:46] range of of agencies in a broad range of
[55:49] the Professionals in those agencies I
[55:51] guess
[55:52] I basically was taught early on that if
[55:57] somebody did not give me a grant that I
[55:59] should call and say gee are there ways
[56:02] that I can improve my application so I
[56:05] put that out there to the public just
[56:06] that
[56:07] um you know that's just a good thing to
[56:09] do whether it's a public Source or a
[56:11] private Source if you do get rejected
[56:13] for a grant
[56:15] it's it's a good idea to try to follow
[56:17] up just as if we were applying for a job
[56:19] and we get it rejected from the job it
[56:21] might be a good thing to call and say
[56:23] hey is there something on my resume or
[56:25] in my interviewing skills that might
[56:27] need Improvement I'm just I know it's a
[56:29] lot to ask that's a lot easier of an
[56:31] approach than to reach out and take the
[56:33] proactive approach to dissect every
[56:35] application that wasn't funded and try
[56:36] to figure out why it made it happen if
[56:39] somebody reaches out to us and asked us
[56:40] right that's all I'm saying yeah and and
[56:43] you know
[56:44] that's that will be the better approach
[56:46] yeah
[56:50] any other questions
[56:53] thank you so we'll have to talk in two
[56:55] weeks
[56:56] yes please okay thank you the next item
[57:00] is the mayor's recruitment fund just
[57:03] Ferrari
[57:05] Madam Carter Council um we were joined
[57:09] number four number five uh tonight and
[57:11] until we have more details and things we
[57:15] can get through okay okay
[57:17] thank you
[57:28] [Music]
[57:31] we have five items on the agenda the
[57:34] first item is to authorize the mayor to
[57:36] enter into a supplemental group number
[57:38] three with New York State Department of
[57:39] Transportation for not Street uh
[57:42] Roosevelt to Wendell Avenue Paving
[57:45] it says Mr Wallen but I don't see him in
[57:47] the room so
[57:50] tonight
[57:55] good evening so some of the background
[57:58] information the city is connected to be
[57:59] applied for and receive federal funding
[58:01] to replace the existing traffic signal
[58:04] of the notch Street and Rosa Road and
[58:06] Wendell Avenue intersection
[58:08] during the construction phase there was
[58:11] additional work time and materials that
[58:13] were required which in total of the
[58:16] additional costs for construction
[58:18] inspection increased 180 580
[58:22] 95 of the cost is covered by federal and
[58:26] state funding which is 171. 171 551.
[58:32] five percent is the city portion of nine
[58:35] thousand twenty nine dollars and we
[58:38] recommend the city council authorize the
[58:39] mayor to enter into the supplemental
[58:41] agreement number three with the New York
[58:42] State Department of Transportation nysdot
[58:48] foreign
[58:59] thank you very much
[59:02] item number two is just a reminder
[59:05] um
[59:06] for the Amendments and Zoning code
[59:09] regarding banking facilities and private
[59:10] clubs or lodges and the public hearing
[59:13] will be held on January 9th next Monday
[59:17] and item number three is also a reminder
[59:20] of a public hearing for applying the
[59:23] overlay historic district zoning to 308
[59:26] State Street and that public hearing
[59:28] will be heard will be had on January 9th
[59:30] 2023.
[59:32] uh the next item on the agenda is item
[59:35] number four revised parcel for the sale
[59:37] of 1156 Hildebrand Avenue so just to be
[59:40] clear we're just revising this these
[59:42] aren't property sales so we're just as
[59:44] though it does not need to go into
[59:45] executive session
[59:47] Mr Brown
[59:50] foreign
[59:58] thank you good evening the first item is
[1:00:03] to the original resolution number
[1:00:06] 2017-250 to sell 1151 Hildebrand Avenue
[1:00:09] from 18 wayson Street to tikalakima for
[1:00:13] the sum of 12 500 uh there was an update
[1:00:16] to one of the parcel numbers for those
[1:00:20] properties the update uh or the
[1:00:23] immediate the new resolution should
[1:00:25] reflect the SPL number for 1151
[1:00:27] Hildebrand Avenue as
[1:00:32] 49.34-2-18.1 and 18 West industry as
[1:00:35] 49.34-2-8.12
[1:00:41] any questions
[1:00:44] all those in favor
[1:00:46] um item number five
[1:00:49] we buy parcel for the sale of 1151
[1:00:51] Hildebrand Avenue
[1:01:00] the original resolution number
[1:01:03] 2017-261 to sell 1156 Hildebrand Avenue
[1:01:06] to uh govender lockman for the sum of
[1:01:10] twenty thousand dollars uh the updated
[1:01:12] personal numbers should reflect as
[1:01:15] 49.34-2-8.1
[1:01:20] questions
[1:01:22] unseen motion so second all's in favor
[1:01:28] is there anything else
[1:01:34] all those a favor
[1:01:36] um
[1:01:38] have a good evening