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I'd like to call the Schenectady city

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council committee meeting to order for

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Tuesday January 17 2023.

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the first item on the agenda

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is the New York State excuse me I'm

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sorry Public Safety please call the

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order so they've called out of the

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Public Safety Committee we have two

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items on the agenda tonight first of

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which will be New York State DCJS or

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infancy prevention Grant and I'll be

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discussed by Chief Eric Clifford

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thank you very much

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Scentsy Police Department is seeking

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legislation to accept a grant from the

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New York State Department of Criminal

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the grant is for a pilot program

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that will support programming for

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runaway and homeless Youth and youth of

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color develop a framework on alternative

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to arrest policies and practices and

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build trust among communities

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the grant is in the amount of 514 064

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dollars

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and although I did put into legislative

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request I did not have included timeline

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um I realized that I made the mistake

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that the period of performance is listed

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as January 1st 2023 through September

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30th of 2026 which is roughly four full

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and we have partnered with Schenectady

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connects for our proposal that includes

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a budget of roughly 122 thousand dollars

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per year

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that that budget is dedicated towards

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wages for the youths

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salaries and fringe benefits for the

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staff at scanty connects

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fifteen thousand dollars a year for

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police overtime dollars and then

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programming expenses and some

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administrative and indirect expenses

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I will open up questions at this time

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any other questions comments around the

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I would just say that it sounds like a

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wonderful program and I love the aspect

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of being able to get our youth employed

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um I support everything that was in the

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Grant in terms of then it you know is

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one less opportunity for them to be

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doing something that perhaps they

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shouldn't be doing and at the same time

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learning such amazing skills for future

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employment so I completely support it I

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think it's great

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is there any questions

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so we're talking about 10 units

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looking at the the attachment here

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proposal

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this is a one-year estimated here this

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is a one-year estimate before four years

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for roughly four years

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um and it's a it's a rough it's a rough

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uh it's a rough budget right now it's

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not it's not in solid that's why it's a

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little bit short I believe that comes

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like 488 000. for 10 years for a year

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and it will cover 10 units per year

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that's the target

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per year no okay yes

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Sergeant Lanier uh was delegated this so

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as the chief said that that's a fairly

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those individuals deemed appropriate for

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um that that number of 10 would be 10

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youth to go through the program for a

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full year of wages so

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um that's what that number okay thanks I

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just want a clarification thank you so

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fall off so what would the plan be if

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like let's say like a quarter way

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through you all lost a couple you've is

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ask you if something you fell off like

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halfway through a third of the way

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through the program and you're not at 10

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any longer um is there a plan for that

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offense a low-level non-violent offenses

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all be eligible to go into the program

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so you know we I try to maximize the

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funding to to support a program that was

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that's eligible but again that factor is

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candidates to to take their place it's

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in your own recruitment through the

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school district

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district kids that come to the attention

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of of the police or pre-arrest diversion

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program

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limited to our community

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school students okay

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any other questions or comments Mr

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Coleman just clarifying Point here I

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know it was to accept the grant

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agreement that's the legislative request

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obviously part of this is going to be

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contracting apparently with the county

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on this so I request that it just the

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committee look at it from not just

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accepting the grant agreement but also

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authorizing the mayor or his design need

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to execute all necessary contracts to

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carry out this program

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makes sense thank you uh so thank you

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for your time if there are no other

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questions or comments ask the motion

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thank you thank you thank you very much

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the next item on the agenda will be a

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presentation for the school bus stop arm

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camera safety program and I'll be

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delivered by municipated oh thank you

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very much so we have some folks here

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actually do the presentation on this for

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those of you that haven't heard about

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the program

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um it's too you know to create a more

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safe environment for our youth as

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they're getting off the bus you'll hear

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more about what the statistics on bus

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accidents when children are trying to

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get off the bus and how this can help

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um with that part of what has to happen

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in first of all is that the school

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district would be the one to implement

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this as we know the school districts are

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the ones that actually use through the

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okay and so what our role in this is

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that we have to pay past the local law

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and I'm sorry we have to work past a

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local law I'm sorry that's okay I'll

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speak up and at this point in time

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there's already been a presentation done

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at the school district level so uh

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during the presentation they'll tell you

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how that went and um what our goal is

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for at this point in time so I'll turn

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it over to I'm Steve Francis

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okay nice to meet everyone I'm going to

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hang out over a few years I'm going to

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move the presentation can you move the

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presentation for him yeah I'm sorry can

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you move the presentation slides for him

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or Juan could you do that

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okay so we'll ask we'll ask the head of

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our I.T Department you're getting the

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top size

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oh yes if you would please

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that's really for the audience out there

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okay okay hey everyone so I'm Steve

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Randazzo I'm the Executive Vice

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President of bus Patrol America

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um in a past life I was the deputy

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county executive of Suffolk County New

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York down on Long Island and

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just really passionate about

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Transportation safety and school bus

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safety

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Albany passed the law that enabled

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municipalities all across the state of

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level you basically have to enable the

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legislation uh locally so that if

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there's state law floating out there

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that you know City councils for example

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through the state legislation can bring

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to the city of Schenectady through some

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um next slide please

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so I do I do want to tell you a little

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bit about pest control so there are a

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few vendors in the space but we have a

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pretty unique Mission we believe it's

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important to put the safety technology

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when communities do uh choose to embark

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on it to to make it available to all

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students on all of us so our mission

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really is in line with that philosophy

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that we want to make the ride to and

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from safer to and from school safer for

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all students in the communities

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so what we do is

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um we outfit school buses in communities

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artificial intelligence enabled camera

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systems that help monitor traffic with

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respect to school bus stop animals so

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essentially if a car right now passes a

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stop School Bus they more or less are

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getting away with it because it just

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generally now not how we police our

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communities you almost have to be

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unlucky in a sense to have a police

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officer sitting behind the school bus

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witnessing the incident and then going

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after the driver writing him or her

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ticket so this is a really efficient way

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to enforce this really critical law and

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help students when they're getting off

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and on the onto the school bus

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um you know just

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ensure that that's done a little bit in

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a little bit of a safer manner

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so we look at this as

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an interesting place to invest in

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I was I went to school back in the 90s

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and went from from what I hear from

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folks who went to school back in the 80s

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and 70s and 60s that the school bus

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really hasn't changed at all that much

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and you know they maybe added some seat

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belts but other than that

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it just hasn't been a place

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traditionally that we've seen much

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investment in so this is a really

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exciting opportunity that New York state

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has afforded communities to add some

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wonderful safety technology and help us

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make the road safer

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in the problem in the process of doing

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it next slide

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so I just want to tell you a little bit

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more about bus Patrol so we are the

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number one provider of the service

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across the country and particularly in

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New York so our customers already across

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the state are places like Suffolk County

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Rocklin County

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places down in Orange County downstate

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New York Dutchess County Albany County

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Nassau County Monroe County we were just

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recently awarded the contract we're

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implementing it now we're up in the city

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of Niagara Falls city of Rensselaer accounting and then awarded

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the contract in the City of Buffalo

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we're implementing city of Jamestown and

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city of North Tampa Wonder right now so

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it's really kind of spreading like

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wildfire in a sense so we've had a

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couple of preliminary conversations with

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the mayor and as

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president Porterville mentioned we did a

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presentation for the school district

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leadership

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my understanding is that the

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transportation leadership is very

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supportive

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because it's just a great opportunity to

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make the road safer and to help kids in

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the progress so next slide

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so I just want to talk a little bit

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about the problem take a step back so

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school buses are actually the most

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widely used form of mass transportation

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in the country by far they're over half

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a million school buses roaming around

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America every day and that represents

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roughly 26 million student writers and

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over the course of the last 10 years we

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have seen over a hundred thousand School

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Bus related injuries over a thousand

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fatalities with respect to school buses

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so certainly a problem that is

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statistically backed up and if you just

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go to the next slide please

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um so what you see

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um with respect to the way school bus

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drivers and parents see this situation

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is I don't know if anyone has school bus

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driver and their family if you know one

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but um ask them if this is a problem and

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they will tell you unequivocally uh yes

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so and and a lot of parents share an

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experience that I that I hear from

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community community around dropping

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their kids off at the at the the local

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school bus stop and seeing lots of cars

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whiz past and just blatantly

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disregarding the bus

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and I think that's happened

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for a number of different reasons I

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think one people are just more

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distracted behind the wheel than ever

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before people are texting and driving

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and people are people just distracted

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behind the wheel in general because cars

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are built with lots of bells and

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whistles that are kind of distracting us

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and and then lastly this just

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inefficient sense of enforcement

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um

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that compounded over years and years and

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years I think has led to this pervasive

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driving culture reckless driving culture

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around stop school buses people just

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don't you know if you're late for a

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meeting or you know you're just don't

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want to stop for those 30 seconds while

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the kids are getting off and on

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you look around you see if there's a

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police officer and if there isn't you tend to whiz off so school bus

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drivers are actually asked on an annual

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basis to manually count with their eyes

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how many passes happen in like a given

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period of time maybe a day or two and

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then that's aggregated up at the state

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level and then even the national level

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so it's estimated that

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um in the United States 17 million

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illegal passes every year in New York

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state the the governor's traffic safety

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board estimates that roughly 50 000

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illegal passes are happening every day

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in the state of New York so it's a

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pretty serious problem next slide

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here's some footage from actually some

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neighboring peer programs in New York

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that permitted us to share with you

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tonight so this is a problem on single

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Lane roads on multi-lane roads on roads

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that have

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um opposing traffic

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um and you know what we like to show

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or draw attention to folks when they're

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watching these videos is just sort of

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the lack of brake lights like to me when

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someone breaks it's almost like a symbol

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of maybe someone contemplating whether

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they're doing something right or wrong

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but only very often see is just an utter

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blatant disregard with us and that's

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really what's what's troubling and what

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I think a program like this is really

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meant to address is what we really want

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to see is and it's hard but a change in

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driving culture the the there is I mean

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I can tell you just from personal

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experience if I see a you know state

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trooper you know a 100 couple hundred

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feet away from me I tend to be on my

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best behavior I slow down I make sure

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that I'm making sure I'm doing all the

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right things we want to create them why

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not create that same that same Instinct

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in drivers around school buses school

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buses are actually

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they're very large they're yellow they

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have huge red flashing lights they have

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a stopwarm that comes out when kids are

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getting off and on it is arguably the

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most visible thing on the road when it's

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on the road and yet

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people are just blowing right past them

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every day and Schenectady I can tell you

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just in talking to folks in law

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enforcement parents folks in government

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that it seems to be an issue here as

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well

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next slide

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I just want to kind of crystallize this

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sense of traditional enforcement where

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versus this photo enforcement world with

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respect to this one issue and that's in

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the state of Pennsylvania so

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Pennsylvania passed this law a few years

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ago we just went live across the state

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of Pennsylvania in numerous communities

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in from the Philadelphia area all the

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way out to Pittsburgh Pittsburgh is one

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of our customers

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and back in 2018 when this was not yet a

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law in Pennsylvania

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police officers can cross the entire

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state issued 667 violations for

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illegally passing a stop School Bus

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um we did a pilot program in Allentown

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Pennsylvania I don't know if everyone's

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ever been to Allentown but

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um we did it on just two school buses

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across just 47 school days and those two

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school buses captured 205

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two school buses

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on a shorter period of time than a full

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year in one community so it just

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it's absolutely dramatic what the

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cameras are captured capturing versus

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what um you know police officers again

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there's no fault on their own but just

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are capturing on the roads it's not the

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way we we traditionally police our

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communities next slide

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so um unfortunately what really led to a

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lot of States enabling this legislation

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to permit photo enforcement on school

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buses was a tragic incident in 2018 in

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the state of Indiana a family actually

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lost three children to um

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unspeakable and an unspeakable incident

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where a car illegally passed the school

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bus

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absolutely devastating

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it's hard to talk about but it did lead

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to action so you now have dozens of

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states that because the the U.S national

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Transportation safety board recommended

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to states to

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um to do something about this and to

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think about photo enforcement as a

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solution we now have dozens of states

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that do it so we we are actually in New

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York Pennsylvania

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Connecticut

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Maryland Virginia

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Georgia North Carolina Illinois

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Washington State so it's really kind of

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like I said even in New York I said it

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was spreading but it's also spreading

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around the country as well

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next slide

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so I want to tell you a little bit about

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the state law it's it's called 1174a and

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it was always illegal to pass to to pass

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a stop school bus if it's letting kids

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on and off but a the a and the law

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allows for this photo enforcement

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um mechanism to take place and

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essentially like I said that's those

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four levels of government so in your

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case it would be the city of Schenectady

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and the first step is to pass this local

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law enabling the state legislation if

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you could just hit next

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and

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it's actually so once you if you pass

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the local law

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generally speaking there's already

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conversations with the school district

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but that's then the step where the

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school district has the ability to

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decide whether it wants to participate

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or not so like I said conversations

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always generally happen beforehand but

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the steps are local law

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then you usually select a vendor and

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then the school district

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will ultimately agree to participate and

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they have to pass a board resolution at

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an upcoming school board meeting

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um the interesting thing about our

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business model and and way of doing this

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is that we will pay for all obligations

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so this is actually zero cost to

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taxpayers as a zero cost of the city

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this is zero cost of the school district never has to budget

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for this we will outfit every single

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school bus in the community at no cost

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um we will install on buses that are

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either District owned or owned by a

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private operator I believe that the

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Schenectady City public school district

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has I think four private operators so

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they're already in talks with those

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operators because they really want to do

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this at the transportation level

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and the way we are

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um able to recoup our costs over time is

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that we negotiate a um like a split of

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the revenue that comes in from the

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collected the collected revenues from

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the tickets and that enables us to

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um service the program in perpetuity as

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well because sometimes school buses or

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school bus companies will decommission a

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bus and they'll have to buy new buses so

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we're we provide the service and

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perpetuity on an ongoing basis and there

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is literally no cost no labor on behalf

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of all of the entities involved other

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than at the city level

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we would need someone to agree to review

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the violation so we really ultimately

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are like we create these evidence

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packages the videos coming from the

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cameras

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um

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that are artificially artificial

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intelligence enabled they

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um they're the ones that um that collect

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the video and then it's reviewed by a

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human level uh review at our team like

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for quality assurance purposes but then

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ultimately it sends over the cloud to

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um in your case the city for review and

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it is not required to be a police

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officer New York allows civilians to to

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be approvers of these these photo

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enforcement violations but it's really

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up to the city and your discretion about

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who would be the ones making that final

566
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,360
decision about whether to issue the

567
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,700
ticket or not and then we then support

568
00:32:38,700 --> 00:32:40,980
the back end effort where we pay for the

569
00:32:40,980 --> 00:32:42,600
mailing and the printing and the postage

570
00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:44,700
and we collect the revenue from The

571
00:32:44,700 --> 00:32:46,919
Violator and then we send it over to the

572
00:32:46,919 --> 00:32:49,500
city and then even if someone wants to

573
00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:51,059
contest this we also support the

574
00:32:51,059 --> 00:32:52,980
consistation process we help with the

575
00:32:52,980 --> 00:32:54,899
scheduling the docket preparation and

576
00:32:54,899 --> 00:32:57,539
the evidence uh preparation and the

577
00:32:57,539 --> 00:32:59,460
expert testimony in the event that

578
00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:01,679
and test this and before

579
00:33:01,679 --> 00:33:02,750
next slide

580
00:33:02,750 --> 00:33:04,440
[Music]

581
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:07,200
I do want to show you the uh what the

582
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:08,880
camera what the technology looks like so

583
00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:11,399
it's not very invasive it just installed

584
00:33:11,399 --> 00:33:13,440
on the outside of the school bus it's

585
00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:14,760
painted yellow so you could really

586
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:16,440
barely notice it if you didn't really

587
00:33:16,440 --> 00:33:19,440
know it was there and and it's

588
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:22,380
essentially monitoring traffic in the

589
00:33:22,380 --> 00:33:24,179
very narrow use case of when the school

590
00:33:24,179 --> 00:33:27,600
bus is stopping to let kids on and off

591
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:29,340
so it really the cameras are really

592
00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:31,740
wonderful I you've probably heard this

593
00:33:31,740 --> 00:33:33,720
term artificial intelligence thrown

594
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,620
around a lot but it's actually

595
00:33:37,620 --> 00:33:39,600
um incredible how efficient the

596
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:41,519
artificial intelligence is it's actually

597
00:33:41,519 --> 00:33:43,500
gotten to the point where it's they say

598
00:33:43,500 --> 00:33:46,140
it's 11 more accurate than a human being

599
00:33:46,140 --> 00:33:48,720
and it's uh because it's monitoring

600
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:51,720
traffic on an ongoing basis it actually

601
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,640
gets more intelligent over time so we

602
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:55,799
expect our artificial intelligence

603
00:33:55,799 --> 00:33:58,200
engine who we call Ava kind of like

604
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:02,039
Amazon has Alexa we have Ava Ava is

605
00:34:02,039 --> 00:34:04,559
monitoring traffic and just can discern

606
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:07,380
really well what a stopped car looks

607
00:34:07,380 --> 00:34:09,060
like what a bicycle looks like what a

608
00:34:09,060 --> 00:34:11,639
car in motion looks like

609
00:34:11,639 --> 00:34:14,040
um and it's just really efficient at

610
00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:15,960
helping bus Patrol create these quality

611
00:34:15,960 --> 00:34:17,820
evidence packages for for for

612
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:20,399
communities like yours to review to hold

613
00:34:20,399 --> 00:34:22,440
drivers accountable who would endanger

614
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,060
the life of a child

615
00:34:24,060 --> 00:34:27,230
next slide

616
00:34:27,240 --> 00:34:29,760
um and we really feel like knowledge is

617
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,639
power when it comes to our programs like

618
00:34:32,639 --> 00:34:33,899
we

619
00:34:33,899 --> 00:34:36,480
if you look at this very simply like the

620
00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:38,580
Casual Observer might say you're just

621
00:34:38,580 --> 00:34:40,980
the ticketing platform we in no way

622
00:34:40,980 --> 00:34:43,560
really want to position ourselves like

623
00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:45,300
that we want to be your community safety

624
00:34:45,300 --> 00:34:47,460
partner where we and we're doing this

625
00:34:47,460 --> 00:34:49,020
all across the state already where we're

626
00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:51,419
providing the data to schools and cities

627
00:34:51,419 --> 00:34:54,060
on an ongoing basis about where the hot

628
00:34:54,060 --> 00:34:55,619
spots in your community because that

629
00:34:55,619 --> 00:34:57,240
should be an ongoing conversation with

630
00:34:57,240 --> 00:34:59,460
the school about how you plan your

631
00:34:59,460 --> 00:35:01,740
routes in future years right because if

632
00:35:01,740 --> 00:35:04,800
we tell you that this is a dangerous uh

633
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,420
location right like if we give you the

634
00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:08,220
top five or top 10 most ticketed

635
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:10,859
locations in your community

636
00:35:10,859 --> 00:35:13,320
you should take that and have energy to

637
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,060
Foster conversation about well maybe we

638
00:35:15,060 --> 00:35:16,800
should move the school bus stop here or

639
00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:21,540
over here to make it a safer Journey for the student getting on and off the

640
00:35:21,540 --> 00:35:23,940
bus so we provide that to you as a

641
00:35:23,940 --> 00:35:27,060
standard service we provide data um in

642
00:35:27,060 --> 00:35:28,920
line with just some of our other

643
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:30,740
contracts that we have in place with

644
00:35:30,740 --> 00:35:33,119
local municipalities across the state

645
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,040
next slide

646
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:36,240
[Music]

647
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,000
next slide

648
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:41,520
so here's another distinguisher about

649
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,880
bus Patrol and so the way the revenue

650
00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:47,880
flows I do think it's worth spending a

651
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,160
second on that is that it actually flows

652
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,400
through the city the school is not clued

653
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:55,520
into the revenue per New York state law

654
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:59,160
and the school generally speaking in my

655
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:00,780
experience all across New York in the

656
00:36:00,780 --> 00:36:02,640
country generally speaking is really

657
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:06,240
just happy about the safety but what we

658
00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,480
like to do to to Really make this

659
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:11,280
program about comprehensive school bus

660
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,740
safety is we will offer the School

661
00:36:13,740 --> 00:36:15,380
District

662
00:36:15,380 --> 00:36:18,420
No Charge internal cameras for all their

663
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:19,380
buses

664
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:20,640
so

665
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,960
um you know in just preliminary

666
00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:23,160
conversations with school district

667
00:36:23,160 --> 00:36:24,839
leaders and transportation leaders

668
00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:28,079
locally this is really viewed as like a

669
00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:30,480
game changer because you know in the

670
00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,160
event there's a bullying incident or a

671
00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:33,359
fight

672
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:34,079
um

673
00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:37,440
their one is I think there are limited

674
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:40,200
internal cameras on your on your city

675
00:36:40,200 --> 00:36:43,560
school buses but I think

676
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:45,599
there aren't folks who are super happy

677
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:47,820
about the quality of those cameras so

678
00:36:47,820 --> 00:36:54,480
these qual these cameras are HD really high quality and we're paying for

679
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,820
them and servicing them on behalf of

680
00:36:56,820 --> 00:36:59,520
your community in perpetuity so and

681
00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:00,960
there are different ways to access the

682
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,060
footage first the transportation

683
00:37:03,060 --> 00:37:05,099
director or the school leaders call it

684
00:37:05,099 --> 00:37:06,660
the principal or the superintendent

685
00:37:06,660 --> 00:37:08,640
would have actually access to all the

686
00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,660
school buses from a live feed

687
00:37:11,660 --> 00:37:14,160
secondly there's a way in the event of

688
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,460
an emergency to go pull the footage from

689
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:19,500
the school bus using a they call it a

690
00:37:19,500 --> 00:37:21,180
down ball and there's a little tablet

691
00:37:21,180 --> 00:37:23,160
that goes along with that and then the

692
00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:24,900
Third Way is let's just say there's an

693
00:37:24,900 --> 00:37:27,420
incident on bus 7 this morning someone

694
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:29,280
says you know there was a fight or a

695
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:30,540
bullying incident

696
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:33,540
the the district could contact us and we

697
00:37:33,540 --> 00:37:35,640
can just send them the footage from you

698
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:38,160
know eight to 805 which really captures

699
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,440
that full picture of what happened on

700
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:42,720
the bus and send it to the appropriate

701
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:45,180
School official for review

702
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:48,000
so right now that's that from what I

703
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,339
hear that is not the experience that the

704
00:37:50,339 --> 00:37:52,440
school transportation leadership has so

705
00:37:52,440 --> 00:37:54,900
I think from that perspective

706
00:37:54,900 --> 00:37:57,480
um alone is is really makes this program

707
00:37:57,480 --> 00:38:00,240
worthwhile for the school and the beauty

708
00:38:00,240 --> 00:38:06,420
of it is the enforcement program helps fund this this is why when we

709
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:08,220
click the schools the the cameras on all

710
00:38:08,220 --> 00:38:11,820
the school buses and again no cost of

711
00:38:11,820 --> 00:38:13,440
taxpayers no cost to the school district

712
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:16,320
no cost to the city one completely 100

713
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,200
percent violator funded it enables this

714
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,540
pool of resources to become available to

715
00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:23,700
fund really wonderful additional

716
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:26,940
technology that we provide at no cost to

717
00:38:26,940 --> 00:38:28,859
the district for being part of the

718
00:38:28,859 --> 00:38:33,050
program next slide

719
00:38:33,060 --> 00:38:35,040
and that's just really our Mantra I just

720
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,540
want to restate it because it's so

721
00:38:36,540 --> 00:38:38,040
important to us so we do have some

722
00:38:38,040 --> 00:38:40,500
competitors in the space but I will tell

723
00:38:40,500 --> 00:38:41,339
you

724
00:38:41,339 --> 00:38:44,280
um they haven't really taken off in New

725
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:47,040
York because their model is is really

726
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:49,260
one-dimensional it's more about becoming

727
00:38:49,260 --> 00:38:50,640
this

728
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,520
recurring ticketing platform and they'll

729
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,560
do that by doing traffic analyzes of

730
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:57,300
your of your routes and they'll just put

731
00:38:57,300 --> 00:38:59,760
cameras on like the four or five buses

732
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,920
that they view are going to just ticket

733
00:39:01,920 --> 00:39:04,980
the most we feel like how are you going

734
00:39:04,980 --> 00:39:07,260
to tell a parent that your kid didn't

735
00:39:07,260 --> 00:39:09,000
get the safety technology because you

736
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,099
didn't make the city or the vendor you

737
00:39:11,099 --> 00:39:12,900
know enough money so we feel like the

738
00:39:12,900 --> 00:39:16,079
most ethical the most efficient way to

739
00:39:16,079 --> 00:39:19,320
go about this is No Child sort of Left

740
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,839
Behind so to speak

741
00:39:20,839 --> 00:39:27,780
no kid or no parent should have to to to be told that you didn't get the

742
00:39:27,780 --> 00:39:30,060
safety technology provided to your bus

743
00:39:30,060 --> 00:39:33,140
because of Revenue reasons so we we

744
00:39:33,140 --> 00:39:36,599
subscribe to the philosophy that all

745
00:39:36,599 --> 00:39:38,940
children should be afforded this this uh

746
00:39:38,940 --> 00:39:41,760
this safety technology partner so

747
00:39:41,760 --> 00:39:43,740
schools are really gravitating towards

748
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:46,500
that model and and we really stand

749
00:39:46,500 --> 00:39:48,180
behind it because we believe in it it's

750
00:39:48,180 --> 00:39:52,690
part of our values next slide

751
00:39:52,700 --> 00:39:55,980
what I will say is in my experience both

752
00:39:55,980 --> 00:39:57,780
as a Suffolk County official and now

753
00:39:57,780 --> 00:39:59,760
rolling out these programs all across

754
00:39:59,760 --> 00:40:01,260
the state and all across the country is

755
00:40:01,260 --> 00:40:06,960
that public education is critical the ticket of course is a it hurts in

756
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,700
the wallet a bit and it's a but it's

757
00:40:08,700 --> 00:40:10,619
also a form of education and you

758
00:40:10,619 --> 00:40:12,660
definitely learn your lesson once you

759
00:40:12,660 --> 00:40:15,359
get one but we would like we like to

760
00:40:15,359 --> 00:40:18,240
create an environment where people are

761
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:19,619
really given a heads up that this

762
00:40:19,619 --> 00:40:21,900
program is coming so what we'll do is

763
00:40:21,900 --> 00:40:23,400
we'll work with the city to design

764
00:40:23,400 --> 00:40:26,339
Public Service campaigns and press

765
00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:29,520
opportunities and we even sent work with

766
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:31,440
the school to send out parent writers so

767
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,000
that essentially everyone in the program

768
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,040
and the city knows that this is coming

769
00:40:35,040 --> 00:40:36,660
we don't want this to be viewed as a

770
00:40:36,660 --> 00:40:39,960
gotcha we even in the first 30 days of

771
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:42,000
the program and this has become a

772
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:44,460
standard for us across New York is we

773
00:40:44,460 --> 00:40:47,640
won't even issue a a monetary violation

774
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,740
just with the city's permission we would

775
00:40:49,740 --> 00:40:51,660
say for the first 30 days let's send

776
00:40:51,660 --> 00:40:53,640
warning notices out so about the folks

777
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,800
who are not accustomed to being held

778
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,720
accountable for this sort of have that

779
00:40:57,720 --> 00:41:00,240
one last sort of heads up that this is

780
00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:02,119
coming in a month

781
00:41:02,119 --> 00:41:04,380
we provide wonderful educational

782
00:41:04,380 --> 00:41:06,359
materials even at the student level

783
00:41:06,359 --> 00:41:08,099
because we feel like students even have

784
00:41:08,099 --> 00:41:09,720
a role to play in here as well so we

785
00:41:09,720 --> 00:41:12,780
have age-appropriate content for young

786
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:15,420
children for middle school students and

787
00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:19,200
even for older students who are you know

788
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,660
going into driver's ed because we really

789
00:41:21,660 --> 00:41:23,640
want to ingrain us in children very

790
00:41:23,640 --> 00:41:27,599
early to watch out for the bus I'll just

791
00:41:27,599 --> 00:41:29,700
tell you that I have a younger brother

792
00:41:29,700 --> 00:41:31,640
I'm the oldest of six children actually

793
00:41:31,640 --> 00:41:34,260
and my youngest brother happens to be on

794
00:41:34,260 --> 00:41:36,480
the autism spectrum and in this in the

795
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:38,300
special needs World

796
00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:41,460
some students with autism there's really

797
00:41:41,460 --> 00:41:43,500
this they call them Runners there's this

798
00:41:43,500 --> 00:41:46,020
like instinctive trust in the bus that

799
00:41:46,020 --> 00:41:48,119
when the stop arm is out and the red

800
00:41:48,119 --> 00:41:49,680
lights are flashing and the buses stop

801
00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:51,240
that a lot of kids just they're not

802
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:53,220
looking they just run Acro across the

803
00:41:53,220 --> 00:41:55,920
street and particularly students on the

804
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:57,960
autism spectrum it's known in the

805
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,540
disability rights Community to be an

806
00:42:00,540 --> 00:42:04,140
issue but I will just tell you that um

807
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:06,000
you know I like to pull out my smoke my

808
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:08,400
phone for special effect but you very

809
00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,260
often see lots of kids just sort of

810
00:42:10,260 --> 00:42:12,000
walking across the street like best

811
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:13,560
staring at their phone and not looking

812
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:16,380
so whether it's a student with special

813
00:42:16,380 --> 00:42:19,320
needs or not there is this instinctive

814
00:42:19,320 --> 00:42:21,720
trust that kids have when the bus is

815
00:42:21,720 --> 00:42:23,780
stopped that

816
00:42:23,780 --> 00:42:26,640
we really want to make sure that cars

817
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,859
are on the side of caution when the

818
00:42:28,859 --> 00:42:32,220
buses stopped for those few moments to

819
00:42:32,220 --> 00:42:34,140
make sure the road is safe

820
00:42:34,140 --> 00:42:36,780
uh next slide

821
00:42:36,780 --> 00:42:39,119
as you approach it so this is a PSA we

822
00:42:39,119 --> 00:42:41,700
did in Suffolk County what should you do

823
00:42:41,700 --> 00:42:47,050
if you were in this car

824
00:42:47,060 --> 00:42:52,010
but in every case

825
00:42:52,020 --> 00:42:53,940
The Cutting Edge cabin technology

826
00:42:53,940 --> 00:42:55,859
Suffolk county is launching a program

827
00:42:55,859 --> 00:42:57,900
that can serve as a national model for

828
00:42:57,900 --> 00:43:00,000
school Transportation safety stop for

829
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,160
the class it's New York state law for

830
00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,280
more information visit

831
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,260
suffolkcountymy.gov school bus so we

832
00:43:07,260 --> 00:43:08,880
create a landing page so that there's

833
00:43:08,880 --> 00:43:10,560
public information available and we did

834
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:13,140
it in multiple languages we did radio

835
00:43:13,140 --> 00:43:16,940
ads and Spanish radio down on the island

836
00:43:16,940 --> 00:43:19,560
we really want to make sure that folks

837
00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:22,079
again before we ever issue a ticket that

838
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:23,940
the community has this sense that

839
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:26,220
they're bought in their voices are heard

840
00:43:26,220 --> 00:43:28,619
and that they're ultimately given a

841
00:43:28,619 --> 00:43:30,240
heads up so that they know that it's

842
00:43:30,240 --> 00:43:31,740
coming and that they're bought into the

843
00:43:31,740 --> 00:43:33,180
concept of

844
00:43:33,180 --> 00:43:35,460
next slide

845
00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:37,560
so I I guess what I would like to just

846
00:43:37,560 --> 00:43:39,720
close by saying and I'm sure there might

847
00:43:39,720 --> 00:43:42,420
be a few questions but we really fashion

848
00:43:42,420 --> 00:43:45,780
ourselves as a safety service we we

849
00:43:45,780 --> 00:43:47,819
really kind of support the program on

850
00:43:47,819 --> 00:43:49,079
the city level and the school district

851
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:51,960
level from Soup To Nuts we have a whole

852
00:43:51,960 --> 00:43:54,720
field service technology team that comes

853
00:43:54,720 --> 00:43:57,599
in and installs the cameras on the buses

854
00:43:57,599 --> 00:43:59,460
throughout the community and we work

855
00:43:59,460 --> 00:44:01,200
with your school district and your local

856
00:44:01,200 --> 00:44:04,680
operators on scheduling so the School

857
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:06,480
District transportation operations are

858
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,220
never impacted we work nights and

859
00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:10,020
weekends and holidays and over the

860
00:44:10,020 --> 00:44:11,540
summer

861
00:44:11,540 --> 00:44:14,760
and we service the cameras in perpetuity

862
00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:16,260
so like I said things happen like

863
00:44:16,260 --> 00:44:18,599
sometimes the bus run you know kind of

864
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:21,240
brushes up against a tree or you know

865
00:44:21,240 --> 00:44:23,160
just things happen where we're always on

866
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:24,900
the scene servicing the cameras that's

867
00:44:24,900 --> 00:44:27,119
Our obligation as being the city's

868
00:44:27,119 --> 00:44:30,480
vendor we issue the citations we don't

869
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,520
approve the citations the city does that

870
00:44:32,520 --> 00:44:34,859
but we issue them in terms of mail and

871
00:44:34,859 --> 00:44:37,160
postage and printing

872
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:39,900
we also collect the payment on behalf of

873
00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:41,400
the city we usually work with if you

874
00:44:41,400 --> 00:44:44,040
have like a city controller or a CFO

875
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:46,740
something to that effect to make sure

876
00:44:46,740 --> 00:44:49,220
the flow of funds are smooth

877
00:44:49,220 --> 00:44:52,020
if people want to contest it we actually

878
00:44:52,020 --> 00:44:53,819
there's like a little coupon that people

879
00:44:53,819 --> 00:44:57,060
will kind of rip off and nail back to us

880
00:44:57,060 --> 00:44:58,619
and then we're helping to schedule the

881
00:44:58,619 --> 00:45:00,300
core contestation so it's really trying

882
00:45:00,300 --> 00:45:02,880
to be almost no burden on the city we

883
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:04,859
really take the labor part out of it on

884
00:45:04,859 --> 00:45:06,119
behalf of the school district and

885
00:45:06,119 --> 00:45:07,640
sitting

886
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:10,140
we also have a call center that's open

887
00:45:10,140 --> 00:45:11,760
every day so that when the violators

888
00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:14,940
have questions about the program or just

889
00:45:14,940 --> 00:45:17,220
have certain issues about payment we all

890
00:45:17,220 --> 00:45:19,260
we also offer payment plans so that

891
00:45:19,260 --> 00:45:21,420
folks who have some financial hardship

892
00:45:21,420 --> 00:45:24,060
can pay over time and we coordinate that

893
00:45:24,060 --> 00:45:26,400
through our call center we provide

894
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:28,260
training to law enforcement or folks who

895
00:45:28,260 --> 00:45:30,359
are approving the violation so that they

896
00:45:30,359 --> 00:45:31,859
can get accustomed to the technology

897
00:45:31,859 --> 00:45:34,920
which is super easy to use to begin with

898
00:45:34,920 --> 00:45:37,740
we we provide like I said media

899
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:40,700
campaigns and Reporting so really just

900
00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:43,560
we really fashion ourselves as your

901
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,720
community safety partner again next

902
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:46,680
slide

903
00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:48,780
so I'll save the best for last

904
00:45:48,780 --> 00:45:51,359
really cool data we're on I think over

905
00:45:51,359 --> 00:45:53,520
15 000 school buses across the country

906
00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:55,200
at this point I think we'll be over

907
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,319
around near 20 000 by the end of the

908
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:01,260
summer but across all of our programs

909
00:46:01,260 --> 00:46:03,480
about 98 of folks who receive one

910
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,400
violation in the mail never get a second

911
00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:08,940
one so really dramatic low dramatically

912
00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:11,099
low recidivism

913
00:46:11,099 --> 00:46:13,619
um and we've just our sense is that

914
00:46:13,619 --> 00:46:15,119
because we do these full Fleet

915
00:46:15,119 --> 00:46:17,460
deployments

916
00:46:17,460 --> 00:46:19,680
um it really sends a strong message to

917
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,660
the community that this law is now going

918
00:46:21,660 --> 00:46:25,560
to be enforced in full force and once

919
00:46:25,560 --> 00:46:27,359
people know that that's the case they

920
00:46:27,359 --> 00:46:28,740
generally

921
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:31,859
kind of change their behavior and that's what we're really proud of

922
00:46:31,859 --> 00:46:34,200
ultimately is that that behavioral

923
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,420
change that instinctive behavioral

924
00:46:36,420 --> 00:46:38,339
change around the way people behave

925
00:46:38,339 --> 00:46:40,380
around stop school buses

926
00:46:40,380 --> 00:46:43,020
and the last slide please

927
00:46:43,020 --> 00:46:45,960
again to reiterate

928
00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,079
um completely 100 BioWare funded so

929
00:46:49,079 --> 00:46:50,880
there's never a point where even if the

930
00:46:50,880 --> 00:46:52,800
program didn't really let's just say it

931
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:55,079
didn't realize certain Revenue in line

932
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:57,000
with the car costs to support the

933
00:46:57,000 --> 00:46:59,940
program the city had never never owes

934
00:46:59,940 --> 00:47:02,700
the vet house the vendor pest patrol in

935
00:47:02,700 --> 00:47:05,160
this case the Delta between them so it's

936
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:07,619
completely from a financial perspective

937
00:47:07,619 --> 00:47:09,420
risk freedom to the city of the school

938
00:47:09,420 --> 00:47:12,180
district and coming to

939
00:47:12,180 --> 00:47:14,880
happy to answer any questions that we

940
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,900
have

941
00:47:15,900 --> 00:47:19,140
any questions Patrick yes um thank you

942
00:47:19,140 --> 00:47:20,880
very much for your presentation you did

943
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:22,319
actually answer some of my questions

944
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:24,660
during your presentation and we

945
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:26,460
certainly know that that change in

946
00:47:26,460 --> 00:47:28,319
driving culture has to happen we've been

947
00:47:28,319 --> 00:47:30,000
talking about traffic safety and other

948
00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,400
traffic calming measures throughout the

949
00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,680
year but this is a huge issue and one

950
00:47:34,680 --> 00:47:36,359
that I think all of us you know

951
00:47:36,359 --> 00:47:39,359
understand and see this happen quite a

952
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:40,380
bit

953
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:42,480
um the contract that's in the packet

954
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,460
that we were given indicates that the

955
00:47:44,460 --> 00:47:46,079
city would be responsible for all the

956
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:48,180
costs so I don't believe we were given a

957
00:47:48,180 --> 00:47:50,119
contract

958
00:47:50,119 --> 00:47:52,920
a draft it's a draft it's just a sample

959
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,579
language so I just want to clarify that all would have to change because

960
00:47:56,579 --> 00:47:59,400
I'm hearing what you're saying there

961
00:47:59,400 --> 00:48:01,020
thank you

962
00:48:01,020 --> 00:48:03,119
um the language that's in here reflects

963
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:07,520
what is in 12 74.

964
00:48:07,520 --> 00:48:10,319
that is what is in the law of the

965
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:13,740
nearest law certainly the city would be

966
00:48:13,740 --> 00:48:15,300
on the hook but we can always contract

967
00:48:15,300 --> 00:48:18,720
out and any way that we would like to to

968
00:48:18,720 --> 00:48:20,700
make it you know cost effective for the

969
00:48:20,700 --> 00:48:21,839
city and obviously there are other

970
00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:23,160
factors that will come into play

971
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,920
potentially in terms of

972
00:48:25,920 --> 00:48:28,859
um you know the technology being used in

973
00:48:28,859 --> 00:48:31,680
terms of a competitor who may take you

974
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:33,960
know potentially a lower cut so to speak

975
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,579
in terms of what would be best for the

976
00:48:35,579 --> 00:48:36,900
city

977
00:48:36,900 --> 00:48:39,300
um okay yes but you're right the

978
00:48:39,300 --> 00:48:40,980
language from the state law says that

979
00:48:40,980 --> 00:48:42,780
the cost is born I think really is to

980
00:48:42,780 --> 00:48:45,060
distinguish between being born upon the

981
00:48:45,060 --> 00:48:47,579
school district versus the municipality

982
00:48:47,579 --> 00:48:50,160
okay I got that okay thank you very much

983
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,319
the state law out clarify

984
00:48:52,319 --> 00:48:55,380
um never permits the school district to

985
00:48:55,380 --> 00:48:58,380
go out of pocket so in theory the state

986
00:48:58,380 --> 00:49:01,079
law is written in a way that says the

987
00:49:01,079 --> 00:49:03,000
city has to compensate the school

988
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,859
district if it has any costs but what

989
00:49:04,859 --> 00:49:07,020
I'm saying is that supposed to patrol is

990
00:49:07,020 --> 00:49:09,599
we take that proposition out for all

991
00:49:09,599 --> 00:49:11,579
parties and we Bear all costs for the

992
00:49:11,579 --> 00:49:14,940
program okay so um a couple of things so

993
00:49:14,940 --> 00:49:16,920
the automated in 4 enforcement I want to

994
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,300
hear a little bit more about that you

995
00:49:18,300 --> 00:49:19,560
know because that was one of my concerns

996
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,900
reading this just in terms of Staffing

997
00:49:21,900 --> 00:49:24,020
around some of the redaction

998
00:49:24,020 --> 00:49:26,940
of the video I guess I call it video

999
00:49:26,940 --> 00:49:29,940
it's probably not called video in AI

1000
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:32,700
Cloud world but I'm an old old school

1001
00:49:32,700 --> 00:49:34,079
person

1002
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:35,700
um so

1003
00:49:35,700 --> 00:49:37,920
does when you talked about your Staffing

1004
00:49:37,920 --> 00:49:39,480
would be the first

1005
00:49:39,480 --> 00:49:42,780
look at the video at the

1006
00:49:42,780 --> 00:49:44,640
discussing infractions and then you'd be

1007
00:49:44,640 --> 00:49:46,260
sending us something

1008
00:49:46,260 --> 00:49:48,660
um does your team do all the redaction

1009
00:49:48,660 --> 00:49:51,660
of the video in terms of other license

1010
00:49:51,660 --> 00:49:54,780
plates and other you know exterior again

1011
00:49:54,780 --> 00:49:57,060
that was in part of the state law around

1012
00:49:57,060 --> 00:49:59,460
that as well but if I can just touch

1013
00:49:59,460 --> 00:50:00,740
base on that first

1014
00:50:00,740 --> 00:50:03,780
these vehicles are out in public so

1015
00:50:03,780 --> 00:50:05,819
there's no need to necessarily redact

1016
00:50:05,819 --> 00:50:07,319
because you see a license plate you're

1017
00:50:07,319 --> 00:50:09,420
seeing it from public View and if we're

1018
00:50:09,420 --> 00:50:11,579
using it for you know prosecution of a

1019
00:50:11,579 --> 00:50:14,040
violation we wouldn't provide that

1020
00:50:14,040 --> 00:50:16,740
redacted in any event okay all right

1021
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:20,770
everything here is public all right

1022
00:50:20,780 --> 00:50:23,720
this is there's no privacy concerns

1023
00:50:23,720 --> 00:50:26,099
explicitly related to this certainly

1024
00:50:26,099 --> 00:50:28,079
somebody can potentially foil for

1025
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:30,780
certain types of video which is separate

1026
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:32,160
from the discovery that we would have

1027
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:36,960
for a prosecution and

1028
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,960
even that would be redacted because it's

1029
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:41,460
all same being seen from the public

1030
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,859
there's nothing in the private setting

1031
00:50:43,859 --> 00:50:46,380
here okay the violation goes to the

1032
00:50:46,380 --> 00:50:48,059
registered owner of the vehicle so

1033
00:50:48,059 --> 00:50:50,280
really the camera's job is to capture a

1034
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:53,040
clear picture of a license plate from

1035
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:57,359
um and they're actually in 1174a it

1036
00:50:57,359 --> 00:50:59,280
talks about how the cameras are not to

1037
00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:02,040
be used for any other purpose and they

1038
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,280
also have to be destroyed within I think

1039
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,160
um

1040
00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,260
or 90 day time period

1041
00:51:10,260 --> 00:51:12,119
um so there's a there's and just to tell

1042
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:13,559
you about our staff they're certified

1043
00:51:13,559 --> 00:51:15,780
we're stock to compliant so we have the

1044
00:51:15,780 --> 00:51:17,339
most stringent of cyber security

1045
00:51:17,339 --> 00:51:19,260
protocols so we've never had a breach

1046
00:51:19,260 --> 00:51:20,640
but

1047
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:22,859
um our job again is to produce quality

1048
00:51:22,859 --> 00:51:25,500
evidence for you to review and then

1049
00:51:25,500 --> 00:51:27,960
ultimately once a driver is either held

1050
00:51:27,960 --> 00:51:29,400
accountable or that the ticket is

1051
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:31,680
dismissed or you disapprove it it

1052
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,599
essentially goes away and is destroyed

1053
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,460
it so the automated enforcement again

1054
00:51:35,460 --> 00:51:37,619
that I just want to be really clear in

1055
00:51:37,619 --> 00:51:39,780
my own minds that all is coming through

1056
00:51:39,780 --> 00:51:43,079
you it sounds like right I mean or

1057
00:51:43,079 --> 00:51:44,599
yeah

1058
00:51:44,599 --> 00:51:47,760
we're we're creating the evidence

1059
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:49,920
package the cameras are capturing what's

1060
00:51:49,920 --> 00:51:53,400
happening on the road and then we we

1061
00:51:53,400 --> 00:51:56,099
have a set of quality assurance agents

1062
00:51:56,099 --> 00:51:58,980
who are just checking Ava's work to make

1063
00:51:58,980 --> 00:52:01,800
sure we send you a completely quality

1064
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:03,839
evidence package product and then

1065
00:52:03,839 --> 00:52:06,000
ultimately that's in line with your the

1066
00:52:06,000 --> 00:52:07,680
state law standards and the standards

1067
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:10,880
you impose on us and then

1068
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:13,859
that's transmitted over the the cloud

1069
00:52:13,859 --> 00:52:15,960
through essentially like a portal so

1070
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:17,400
we'll give let's just say you have the

1071
00:52:17,400 --> 00:52:19,920
USM folks from the Schenectady PD to

1072
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:21,000
review these I'll just saying

1073
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,180
aesthetically we would give each officer

1074
00:52:24,180 --> 00:52:26,160
a unique login where they can log in

1075
00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:29,339
from their computer or even phone where

1076
00:52:29,339 --> 00:52:32,339
they um the queue populates every time

1077
00:52:32,339 --> 00:52:34,260
more violations are ready for them to

1078
00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:36,599
review so they might show up one day at

1079
00:52:36,599 --> 00:52:37,800
you know eight o'clock in the morning

1080
00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:39,300
and there might be a queue of 20

1081
00:52:39,300 --> 00:52:41,339
violations potential violations for them

1082
00:52:41,339 --> 00:52:45,300
too review Once they finish that it

1083
00:52:45,300 --> 00:52:46,980
might populate again later in the day or

1084
00:52:46,980 --> 00:52:48,420
the next yeah depending on what's

1085
00:52:48,420 --> 00:52:50,359
happening on the roads

1086
00:52:50,359 --> 00:52:54,420
Mr President yeah um so first I won a

1087
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:56,880
second Mark we

1088
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:59,760
the issue a very important one

1089
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,579
um so I just kind of want to get more

1090
00:53:02,579 --> 00:53:04,380
clarity for myself as well it's like so

1091
00:53:04,380 --> 00:53:07,020
you're saying that this is 100 violated

1092
00:53:07,020 --> 00:53:09,780
fund fun funder funded that is the

1093
00:53:09,780 --> 00:53:11,880
technology and the installation or is

1094
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:14,359
that your entire like company model or

1095
00:53:14,359 --> 00:53:17,040
essentially yeah I mean it even go down

1096
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,200
to probably my paycheck like we the way

1097
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:20,700
we are

1098
00:53:20,700 --> 00:53:24,420
company uh has its Revenue come in is

1099
00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:26,400
through these programs but we partner

1100
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,920
with with communities in cities like

1101
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,420
yourselves and school districts

1102
00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:33,359
depending on the way the state law Works

1103
00:53:33,359 --> 00:53:35,220
um and it's just that's that varies from

1104
00:53:35,220 --> 00:53:36,859
state to state but

1105
00:53:36,859 --> 00:53:39,660
we that's the sort of our business model

1106
00:53:39,660 --> 00:53:41,819
is that we feel like we're coming into

1107
00:53:41,819 --> 00:53:44,160
your community and

1108
00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,660
we're not trying to sell you cameras

1109
00:53:48,660 --> 00:53:54,300
like we're not a hardware reseller we we think this best works as a service

1110
00:53:54,300 --> 00:53:58,859
because in Theory the school district or

1111
00:53:58,859 --> 00:54:01,380
the city could buy cameras and then you

1112
00:54:01,380 --> 00:54:03,300
could hire staff to install the cameras

1113
00:54:03,300 --> 00:54:04,980
and then you could hire staff to service

1114
00:54:04,980 --> 00:54:06,839
the cameras you could hire staff to

1115
00:54:06,839 --> 00:54:09,180
review the footage you could hire staff

1116
00:54:09,180 --> 00:54:11,220
to lick the envelopes and print the

1117
00:54:11,220 --> 00:54:12,839
postage every day and collect the money

1118
00:54:12,839 --> 00:54:15,119
it just doesn't really work all that

1119
00:54:15,119 --> 00:54:17,040
well that way so we really have

1120
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,839
positioned ourselves as this One-Stop

1121
00:54:18,839 --> 00:54:21,480
shop service so that it doesn't it

1122
00:54:21,480 --> 00:54:23,640
doesn't require you to hire 20 people to

1123
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,380
perform the service of that for the city

1124
00:54:25,380 --> 00:54:28,800
we'll do it for you okay so so

1125
00:54:28,800 --> 00:54:31,680
the idea the goal is prevention right

1126
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:35,400
ultimately preventing so and with this

1127
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:38,660
model like I guess all good

1128
00:54:38,660 --> 00:54:40,859
non-profits I guess I would say we're

1129
00:54:40,859 --> 00:54:42,359
working to kind of work ourselves out of

1130
00:54:42,359 --> 00:54:44,040
business here right and if you have like

1131
00:54:44,040 --> 00:54:46,380
that really high percentage of or low

1132
00:54:46,380 --> 00:54:48,720
percentage or recidivism then that would

1133
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:50,160
essentially that's what would happen

1134
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,380
hopefully yes

1135
00:54:52,380 --> 00:54:53,040
um

1136
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,020
in Schenectady I know that there's

1137
00:54:55,020 --> 00:54:56,579
agreement or Transportation where we

1138
00:54:56,579 --> 00:54:58,920
work with our with the cbta buses and

1139
00:54:58,920 --> 00:55:00,420
city buses

1140
00:55:00,420 --> 00:55:03,660
um who do transportation for kids to

1141
00:55:03,660 --> 00:55:06,599
school and how would this would this be

1142
00:55:06,599 --> 00:55:09,300
applicable to that type of agreement

1143
00:55:09,300 --> 00:55:10,380
because we're not talking about yellow

1144
00:55:10,380 --> 00:55:11,760
buses here

1145
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:15,000
so unfortunately as of now the state law

1146
00:55:15,000 --> 00:55:16,559
only permits this to go on a yellow

1147
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:19,400
school bus that has a stop arm although

1148
00:55:19,400 --> 00:55:21,720
certainly makes sense and certain cities

1149
00:55:21,720 --> 00:55:23,460
have lots of students that are taking

1150
00:55:23,460 --> 00:55:24,900
Alternative forms of public

1151
00:55:24,900 --> 00:55:26,880
transportation so you know happy to

1152
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:28,559
engage in that conversation but for the

1153
00:55:28,559 --> 00:55:30,540
time being that's what the state law

1154
00:55:30,540 --> 00:55:33,480
permits is the yellow bus and then I get

1155
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,819
this question a lot about the

1156
00:55:35,819 --> 00:55:37,619
um you know working yourselves out of

1157
00:55:37,619 --> 00:55:38,940
business so to speak what I will say is

1158
00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:40,319
I'm not really promising that the

1159
00:55:40,319 --> 00:55:42,180
violations will ever get to zero I don't

1160
00:55:42,180 --> 00:55:43,500
know if that's realistic it's because

1161
00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:45,119
you have folks who come from out of town

1162
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,280
you have folks who are new drivers you

1163
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:48,839
have folks who

1164
00:55:48,839 --> 00:55:50,819
are distracted even though they know

1165
00:55:50,819 --> 00:55:53,579
this program exists so but what you do

1166
00:55:53,579 --> 00:55:56,579
see is initially pretty higher level of

1167
00:55:56,579 --> 00:55:59,040
violations and we you usually see a flat

1168
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:01,500
towering effect where they're a lot more

1169
00:56:01,500 --> 00:56:03,839
manageable and there's awareness around

1170
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:05,400
the entire community that the program

1171
00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:08,220
access so school bus drivers and school

1172
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:10,200
transportation leaders and parents will

1173
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:13,200
say oh my God this this used to be a bus

1174
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:15,059
stop where people flew by all day and

1175
00:56:15,059 --> 00:56:16,980
now I'm actually seeing people stop so

1176
00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:19,020
that's that's sort of what we see across

1177
00:56:19,020 --> 00:56:21,480
the programs that we serve

1178
00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:23,940
well to your point um I was definitely

1179
00:56:23,940 --> 00:56:25,619
having the same thoughts on being a

1180
00:56:25,619 --> 00:56:28,140
self-defeating thing so

1181
00:56:28,140 --> 00:56:28,800
um

1182
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,900
based on your previous comment though is

1183
00:56:30,900 --> 00:56:33,300
there a healthy amount of violations to

1184
00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,059
expect uh take into consideration

1185
00:56:36,059 --> 00:56:38,099
um new drivers and visitors where you

1186
00:56:38,099 --> 00:56:41,099
can identify where your city is compared

1187
00:56:41,099 --> 00:56:43,140
it to like best case scenarios if that

1188
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:44,460
makes sense and I understand I want to

1189
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:47,180
say this even one violation is an issue

1190
00:56:47,180 --> 00:56:50,160
once you identify a statistic if you're

1191
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:51,839
then responsible for really lowering it

1192
00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:54,119
so I want to make sure we're having yeah

1193
00:56:54,119 --> 00:56:57,480
that's a great question I look I I would

1194
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,839
say roughly speaking we might see you're

1195
00:57:00,839 --> 00:57:02,579
a pretty dense you're small City but

1196
00:57:02,579 --> 00:57:04,260
you're pretty dense so you might see

1197
00:57:04,260 --> 00:57:06,359
somewhere in the vicinity of

1198
00:57:06,359 --> 00:57:08,280
I'm just doing like back in the napkin

1199
00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,520
math here but like 0.2 or 0.3 violations

1200
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,400
per bus per day so let's just call it

1201
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,859
one let's say roughly speaking one

1202
00:57:16,859 --> 00:57:19,800
violation per bus every five days you

1203
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:21,660
have about 30 days

1204
00:57:21,660 --> 00:57:24,480
school buses in Schenectady across all

1205
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:27,059
your vendors so you know let's just say

1206
00:57:27,059 --> 00:57:29,520
it's 40 times 0.2

1207
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:31,500
so you're looking at maybe a couple of

1208
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:33,720
violations per day which is what I would

1209
00:57:33,720 --> 00:57:40,030
say is happening on

1210
00:57:40,040 --> 00:57:42,480
so I just want to be clear so the bus

1211
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:45,240
Patrol collects the revenue we collected

1212
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:46,920
because just to make it easier for the

1213
00:57:46,920 --> 00:57:48,359
city we have a payment portal where

1214
00:57:48,359 --> 00:57:49,740
people can pay put their credit card

1215
00:57:49,740 --> 00:57:52,079
information or mails check and then it

1216
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:54,240
really goes we work with your controller

1217
00:57:54,240 --> 00:57:56,099
to make sure that's then securely

1218
00:57:56,099 --> 00:57:58,079
transmitted to the city well I think

1219
00:57:58,079 --> 00:58:00,540
that's actually a good thing we would

1220
00:58:00,540 --> 00:58:01,800
have to do so if you would select the

1221
00:58:01,800 --> 00:58:03,780
money and so you said there's this 50 50

1222
00:58:03,780 --> 00:58:08,099
split and it's it's roughly 50 50. I

1223
00:58:08,099 --> 00:58:10,319
have to check what so what and there and

1224
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,780
this um to the point about procurement

1225
00:58:12,780 --> 00:58:16,079
is so we do

1226
00:58:16,079 --> 00:58:18,180
um very often times when competitive

1227
00:58:18,180 --> 00:58:20,579
rfps and I'm very familiar with the

1228
00:58:20,579 --> 00:58:22,800
procurement in my former gig at the

1229
00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:25,380
County Down on Long Island but we've

1230
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:28,980
been awarded so many competitive

1231
00:58:28,980 --> 00:58:31,819
um you know competitively procured

1232
00:58:31,819 --> 00:58:34,800
solicitations or procurements that we

1233
00:58:34,800 --> 00:58:36,660
now now have a bunch of contracts that

1234
00:58:36,660 --> 00:58:38,819
exist all across New York that have a

1235
00:58:38,819 --> 00:58:40,680
Cooperative language so like a community

1236
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:43,440
a county or city could say because it

1237
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:44,940
was competitively procured they could

1238
00:58:44,940 --> 00:58:46,920
put in the contract we permit other

1239
00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,020
municipalities in New York and Beyond to

1240
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:51,900
they call it piggybacking so that's

1241
00:58:51,900 --> 00:58:53,880
totally at the city's discretion but

1242
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:56,520
there are ways to utilize our services

1243
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,680
without having to do an RFP at this

1244
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,200
point because like Dutchess County and

1245
00:59:01,200 --> 00:59:02,940
Monroe County and Rockland County all

1246
00:59:02,940 --> 00:59:05,220
have this this Cooperative piggybacking

1247
00:59:05,220 --> 00:59:06,780
language in their contracts that we'd be

1248
00:59:06,780 --> 00:59:09,950
happy to share with you

1249
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:12,240
any other questions

1250
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:14,400
so

1251
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:15,540
um

1252
00:59:15,540 --> 00:59:19,440
outside of like the violation data I

1253
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:20,579
could see like where you're saying that

1254
00:59:20,579 --> 00:59:22,260
we kind of that might Peak and then kind

1255
00:59:22,260 --> 00:59:24,180
of start to dwindle off as it was which

1256
00:59:24,180 --> 00:59:25,380
is good

1257
00:59:25,380 --> 00:59:28,140
um is there any other data around like

1258
00:59:28,140 --> 00:59:30,720
um actually like uh you know maybe like

1259
00:59:30,720 --> 00:59:33,180
a reduction accidents or students being

1260
00:59:33,180 --> 00:59:35,280
like you know hit by drivers or

1261
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:36,960
something like that in any of the you

1262
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:39,180
know that you could share with us yeah

1263
00:59:39,180 --> 00:59:40,920
that's a good question

1264
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:43,619
um and I can dig back with my team to

1265
00:59:43,619 --> 00:59:45,180
try to get you something I can't really

1266
00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:48,359
speak to Schenectady specific statistics

1267
00:59:48,359 --> 00:59:50,460
I mean I would imagine your PD might

1268
00:59:50,460 --> 00:59:52,440
have some of that housed within their

1269
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,200
department but what I will say is just

1270
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,720
this is why we believe so strongly in

1271
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,359
the full Fleet model as opposed to like

1272
01:00:00,359 --> 01:00:02,640
if we just didn't if I just said

1273
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:04,380
let me do it on like three or four of

1274
01:00:04,380 --> 01:00:05,760
your muscles like I'll just put it on

1275
01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:07,980
the ones that's like we know people are

1276
01:00:07,980 --> 01:00:10,079
gonna pass a lot because it goes in a

1277
01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:11,520
really dense part of town where there's

1278
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,380
lots of intersections and things like

1279
01:00:13,380 --> 01:00:14,339
that

1280
01:00:14,339 --> 01:00:16,380
and then people start to think like oh

1281
01:00:16,380 --> 01:00:19,260
well now I memorize where the buses that

1282
01:00:19,260 --> 01:00:20,640
have the cameras and I know the ones

1283
01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:23,160
that don't we really want to avoid that

1284
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:25,380
so we we do this full Fleet approach but

1285
01:00:25,380 --> 01:00:26,940
we say let's put it on every bus so that

1286
01:00:26,940 --> 01:00:28,619
everyone knows that any school bus in

1287
01:00:28,619 --> 01:00:30,240
the city is connected have you passed

1288
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,200
the school bus you're going to get a

1289
01:00:31,200 --> 01:00:31,920
ticket

1290
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:35,819
and what we found is in in cities that

1291
01:00:35,819 --> 01:00:36,839
do this

1292
01:00:36,839 --> 01:00:38,940
we feel like it's it's especially when

1293
01:00:38,940 --> 01:00:41,700
higher traffic parts of the day like

1294
01:00:41,700 --> 01:00:43,319
your rush hours like when the schools

1295
01:00:43,319 --> 01:00:44,700
are on when the school buses are on the

1296
01:00:44,700 --> 01:00:47,099
road that we see a comprehensive traffic

1297
01:00:47,099 --> 01:00:48,599
calming effect right because when

1298
01:00:48,599 --> 01:00:50,460
they've all been 40 school buses are

1299
01:00:50,460 --> 01:00:52,099
roaming the city at the same time

1300
01:00:52,099 --> 01:00:55,200
there's a good chance that like if

1301
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,760
you're driving around Rush Hour you're

1302
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:58,920
going to see one and it creates this

1303
01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:00,839
calming effect I think comprehensively

1304
01:01:00,839 --> 01:01:04,370
to your point

1305
01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:09,470
so

1306
01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,680
um

1307
01:01:10,680 --> 01:01:12,720
but I'll try to make a double question

1308
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:15,720
here so have you um has any of the

1309
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:17,160
municipalities that you've worked with

1310
01:01:17,160 --> 01:01:20,280
have been like increased the uh the

1311
01:01:20,280 --> 01:01:23,099
ticketing fee in order to kind of

1312
01:01:23,099 --> 01:01:24,420
support the program

1313
01:01:24,420 --> 01:01:26,400
um as that happened

1314
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:30,660
in um in New York it cannot be the case

1315
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:34,200
because New York state law sets the fine

1316
01:01:34,200 --> 01:01:37,559
and 250. so it's 250 dollars

1317
01:01:37,559 --> 01:01:40,079
for illegally passing a stop to a bus so

1318
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:42,180
you would need State legislation and

1319
01:01:42,180 --> 01:01:44,040
Albany to raise the fine or lower the

1320
01:01:44,040 --> 01:01:46,250
fine

1321
01:01:46,260 --> 01:01:48,839
um and that's generally the case in

1322
01:01:48,839 --> 01:01:50,819
other states too because it's the finest

1323
01:01:50,819 --> 01:01:53,160
set by the state

1324
01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:59,270
does it violator have an option to say

1325
01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:01,859
um I don't know I'm not using the right

1326
01:02:01,859 --> 01:02:04,319
terminology here but to say like okay if

1327
01:02:04,319 --> 01:02:06,839
they pay within the first 10 days that

1328
01:02:06,839 --> 01:02:08,339
this ticket is issued is it like

1329
01:02:08,339 --> 01:02:10,940
graduated uh

1330
01:02:10,940 --> 01:02:13,880
intervention models within Europe

1331
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,559
right now yeah so the state doesn't

1332
01:02:16,559 --> 01:02:22,020
require this but I will tell you that we

1333
01:02:22,020 --> 01:02:24,420
you know we we want to make sure that

1334
01:02:24,420 --> 01:02:26,520
people are afforded the opportunity to

1335
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,740
pay overtime if you know if you have a

1336
01:02:28,740 --> 01:02:30,599
financial hardship so we have built in

1337
01:02:30,599 --> 01:02:33,540
our system a mechanism for someone to

1338
01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:36,180
request the payment plan so I think it's

1339
01:02:36,180 --> 01:02:38,579
maybe might be like four or five or six

1340
01:02:38,579 --> 01:02:40,319
I'd have to get back to I'm actually I

1341
01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:41,880
think it's like a few payments over like

1342
01:02:41,880 --> 01:02:45,119
a few months spam and we're very

1343
01:02:45,119 --> 01:02:46,380
accommodating when it comes to that but

1344
01:02:46,380 --> 01:02:48,180
that is not required by the state law

1345
01:02:48,180 --> 01:02:51,299
that's something that we specifically do

1346
01:02:51,299 --> 01:02:52,799
um I think you had another part to your

1347
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:54,900
question too yeah it was just around

1348
01:02:54,900 --> 01:02:58,319
like so I the law was like kind of I was

1349
01:02:58,319 --> 01:03:01,559
a little fuzzy on that is this

1350
01:03:01,559 --> 01:03:03,720
um footage is this footage can this

1351
01:03:03,720 --> 01:03:05,940
footage be used

1352
01:03:05,940 --> 01:03:09,480
um for any other purposes outside of

1353
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,359
um traffic uh infractions or violator in

1354
01:03:12,359 --> 01:03:14,220
other words like who has access to this

1355
01:03:14,220 --> 01:03:16,980
footage and has law enforcement or any

1356
01:03:16,980 --> 01:03:19,680
other agency contacted you to use this

1357
01:03:19,680 --> 01:03:22,319
footage for anything other than that

1358
01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:24,000
um so New York state does not permit it

1359
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:26,520
to be used for any other purpose

1360
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:29,339
um the even the school district is not

1361
01:03:29,339 --> 01:03:32,819
in the state law 1174 is not permitted

1362
01:03:32,819 --> 01:03:35,520
to access the outside camera footage

1363
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:36,660
that you can use the inside camera

1364
01:03:36,660 --> 01:03:38,040
footage because we're giving that to

1365
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,020
them as a big part of the program but

1366
01:03:40,020 --> 01:03:42,299
the outside camera footage is only for

1367
01:03:42,299 --> 01:03:45,480
us to send to you and then the city has

1368
01:03:45,480 --> 01:03:47,339
certain designated officials who review

1369
01:03:47,339 --> 01:03:49,079
it whether it's law enforcement or

1370
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:51,839
civilians and then I would say in the

1371
01:03:51,839 --> 01:03:54,960
rare circumstance a true crime is

1372
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,359
committed and like a judge orders that

1373
01:03:57,359 --> 01:04:00,000
the the footage being turned over like

1374
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,540
they're really like high levels of

1375
01:04:02,540 --> 01:04:04,740
standards and protocols that need to be

1376
01:04:04,740 --> 01:04:06,839
followed I have seen it like I have seen

1377
01:04:06,839 --> 01:04:09,540
an incident where a child is actually

1378
01:04:09,540 --> 01:04:12,480
hit by a car had a hundred thousand

1379
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:15,240
dollar medical bill and

1380
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:17,880
PD actually found who that driver was

1381
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:20,760
because it was you know a 250 hour

1382
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:23,339
ticket probably wasn't enough to hold

1383
01:04:23,339 --> 01:04:25,799
that person account so we've had very

1384
01:04:25,799 --> 01:04:28,319
rare instances where legitimate crimes

1385
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:30,540
are committed and through proper legal

1386
01:04:30,540 --> 01:04:31,799
protocols

1387
01:04:31,799 --> 01:04:32,579
um

1388
01:04:32,579 --> 01:04:34,859
the footage can be obtained on a very

1389
01:04:34,859 --> 01:04:37,520
young differences

1390
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:40,380
oh thank you thank you for presenting us

1391
01:04:40,380 --> 01:04:42,599
to us um very important topic and with

1392
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:45,180
safety for students have schools we have

1393
01:04:45,180 --> 01:04:47,220
received many companies Through The

1394
01:04:47,220 --> 01:04:49,680
Years about school bus and and you know

1395
01:04:49,680 --> 01:04:52,079
users of a motor vehicle

1396
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:53,700
a couple things I want to touch on in

1397
01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:56,099
terms of my hours I've seen some section

1398
01:04:56,099 --> 01:04:58,280
here deal where the city has to review

1399
01:04:58,280 --> 01:05:02,040
the violation the city has to enforce it

1400
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:04,700
yes and then it has so many houses to

1401
01:05:04,700 --> 01:05:08,520
certify sorticate sort of Affidavit of a

1402
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:12,180
statement of the document is true and

1403
01:05:12,180 --> 01:05:13,980
then it has to go to court and our city

1404
01:05:13,980 --> 01:05:17,099
staff has to defend that in a court now

1405
01:05:17,099 --> 01:05:19,380
we have to take into consideration that

1406
01:05:19,380 --> 01:05:23,160
all those little bits is going to factor

1407
01:05:23,160 --> 01:05:25,200
in for us a lot of manual from the city

1408
01:05:25,200 --> 01:05:27,599
and we know of a fact that we are

1409
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:31,079
shortage of Staffing right now so if you

1410
01:05:31,079 --> 01:05:32,640
go to implement this we don't want to

1411
01:05:32,640 --> 01:05:34,079
implement it and then we don't have the

1412
01:05:34,079 --> 01:05:34,980
staff

1413
01:05:34,980 --> 01:05:37,020
to review this documents then it become

1414
01:05:37,020 --> 01:05:39,480
useless so we want to make sure that

1415
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,880
your company you are working with a city

1416
01:05:41,880 --> 01:05:44,220
to make sure that we have adequate

1417
01:05:44,220 --> 01:05:47,280
Staffing to enforce this and if your

1418
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,500
agency can help the city in terms of how

1419
01:05:49,500 --> 01:05:52,500
do we work collaborate between four days

1420
01:05:52,500 --> 01:05:54,059
or something like that the other

1421
01:05:54,059 --> 01:05:55,680
question I want to talk about in terms

1422
01:05:55,680 --> 01:05:57,780
of code is this work to present support

1423
01:05:57,780 --> 01:06:00,119
on the judge or to say that the person

1424
01:06:00,119 --> 01:06:02,400
plead guilty and was to reduce the fine

1425
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,460
do you have accommodation for that okay

1426
01:06:05,460 --> 01:06:08,099
great questions so your first question

1427
01:06:08,099 --> 01:06:10,200
is and I get this question in

1428
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:12,359
particularly like from a lot of police

1429
01:06:12,359 --> 01:06:15,180
genes because it seems like oh my God

1430
01:06:15,180 --> 01:06:16,619
like we don't have someone that can

1431
01:06:16,619 --> 01:06:17,880
spend someone's going to spend hours

1432
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:21,420
doing this what I will tell you is one

1433
01:06:21,420 --> 01:06:24,119
we will pay for that if you need to hire

1434
01:06:24,119 --> 01:06:26,099
someone or if you need to repurpose a

1435
01:06:26,099 --> 01:06:27,900
portion of someone's day who works for

1436
01:06:27,900 --> 01:06:29,760
the city whether it's at the PD or a

1437
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:31,980
civilian we will reimburse you for that

1438
01:06:31,980 --> 01:06:33,900
so you're never coming out of pocket for

1439
01:06:33,900 --> 01:06:35,640
the administration of the program

1440
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,980
second

1441
01:06:36,980 --> 01:06:40,680
in in our experience across the country

1442
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:43,980
doing this generally speaking a thousand

1443
01:06:43,980 --> 01:06:46,980
school buses in a community requires one

1444
01:06:46,980 --> 01:06:49,319
full-time equivalent so you're probably

1445
01:06:49,319 --> 01:06:52,020
looking at someone at the city needing

1446
01:06:52,020 --> 01:06:53,760
to spend

1447
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:55,319
at most

1448
01:06:55,319 --> 01:06:57,480
maybe a couple hours a week and I would

1449
01:06:57,480 --> 01:06:58,740
say it's probably going to be less than

1450
01:06:58,740 --> 01:07:00,960
them to to Really administer this

1451
01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:03,000
program so very light lift

1452
01:07:03,000 --> 01:07:05,940
and thirdly again

1453
01:07:05,940 --> 01:07:08,579
um you know we ask you within reason to

1454
01:07:08,579 --> 01:07:10,859
you know not create a you know 500 000

1455
01:07:10,859 --> 01:07:13,440
job and is that what he's doing this so

1456
01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,780
someone with a reasonable salary and we

1457
01:07:15,780 --> 01:07:18,539
would uh reimburse that uh person for

1458
01:07:18,539 --> 01:07:20,280
the time spent on the program so like

1459
01:07:20,280 --> 01:07:21,660
let's just say

1460
01:07:21,660 --> 01:07:23,579
you have someone who works 48 hours a

1461
01:07:23,579 --> 01:07:25,680
week but they spend five hours a week on

1462
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:28,079
the program we would reimburse the city

1463
01:07:28,079 --> 01:07:31,440
for five hours a week for that person's

1464
01:07:31,440 --> 01:07:34,579
salary on the back end with the

1465
01:07:34,579 --> 01:07:40,559
administration in terms of defending the the citations in court like I said

1466
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:43,140
we provide all the

1467
01:07:43,140 --> 01:07:46,500
um the requisite Corp support so we

1468
01:07:46,500 --> 01:07:48,480
schedule it we do the docket preparation

1469
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,780
we help provide evidence for the city to

1470
01:07:51,780 --> 01:07:52,859
defend

1471
01:07:52,859 --> 01:07:57,359
the citations successfully and that

1472
01:07:57,359 --> 01:07:58,680
usually winds up being a pretty

1473
01:07:58,680 --> 01:08:00,240
diminished cost

1474
01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:03,180
um you know just to to defend it in

1475
01:08:03,180 --> 01:08:04,680
court

1476
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,780
you know what usually we'll have like

1477
01:08:06,780 --> 01:08:09,660
maybe a monthly traffic court where the

1478
01:08:09,660 --> 01:08:11,520
city will tell us this is the day we're

1479
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:13,319
doing the bus stop camera tickets and

1480
01:08:13,319 --> 01:08:15,240
we'll just you'll give us time slots and

1481
01:08:15,240 --> 01:08:17,219
we'll slot people in so that people know

1482
01:08:17,219 --> 01:08:21,660
when to come and when to show up I mean seeing courts do

1483
01:08:21,660 --> 01:08:24,900
um contestations over Zoom uh across New

1484
01:08:24,900 --> 01:08:26,580
York as another option to make sure that

1485
01:08:26,580 --> 01:08:28,620
people don't have to you know maybe take

1486
01:08:28,620 --> 01:08:30,839
off a whole day of work to go to court

1487
01:08:30,839 --> 01:08:33,920
the second part of your question was

1488
01:08:33,920 --> 01:08:39,140
induced the reducer fund penalty okay

1489
01:08:39,140 --> 01:08:42,960
yeah so that is our interpretation of

1490
01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:44,759
that is that that is not supposed to

1491
01:08:44,759 --> 01:08:46,920
happen because the way it's written in

1492
01:08:46,920 --> 01:08:49,380
New York state law I think it's some

1493
01:08:49,380 --> 01:08:51,480
distinction between whether the law

1494
01:08:51,480 --> 01:08:54,060
calls it a penalty or a fine but

1495
01:08:54,060 --> 01:08:55,759
whatever they call it in the state law

1496
01:08:55,759 --> 01:08:59,219
1174a judges are are not supposed to

1497
01:08:59,219 --> 01:09:01,920
have the discretion however you have a

1498
01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,359
lot of elected judges in like little

1499
01:09:03,359 --> 01:09:05,100
towns and Villages and cities and

1500
01:09:05,100 --> 01:09:07,859
counties all across New York and I

1501
01:09:07,859 --> 01:09:10,199
actually have seen some judges doing

1502
01:09:10,199 --> 01:09:11,100
that

1503
01:09:11,100 --> 01:09:13,799
um and you know at this point we just

1504
01:09:13,799 --> 01:09:16,520
abide by themselves

1505
01:09:16,520 --> 01:09:20,219
so whatever the judge decided in terms

1506
01:09:20,219 --> 01:09:22,380
of the penalty you will take that yes

1507
01:09:22,380 --> 01:09:25,080
the entire violation the fee for the

1508
01:09:25,080 --> 01:09:27,779
violation close that violation yes we're

1509
01:09:27,779 --> 01:09:29,699
going to abide by what the judge says I

1510
01:09:29,699 --> 01:09:31,799
do think it's worth having conversations

1511
01:09:31,799 --> 01:09:33,480
with judges about what's right and wrong

1512
01:09:33,480 --> 01:09:35,219
and some times there are supervising

1513
01:09:35,219 --> 01:09:37,199
judges in counties that have those kinds

1514
01:09:37,199 --> 01:09:38,880
of conversations but I want to make sure

1515
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:39,900
that you're not going to take that

1516
01:09:39,900 --> 01:09:41,580
whatever was decided before the minute

1517
01:09:41,580 --> 01:09:45,719
relying the city for the original oh no if that's what you're where you're

1518
01:09:45,719 --> 01:09:47,160
going with that the answer to that right

1519
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,859
if the judge says 100 we don't build the

1520
01:09:49,859 --> 01:09:52,440
city the other one yeah that's that's

1521
01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:54,360
not what we do I'm just

1522
01:09:54,360 --> 01:09:56,460
I just I just have one more question

1523
01:09:56,460 --> 01:09:57,840
um and I was just wondering I saw that

1524
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:00,000
the data on one of the slides with the

1525
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:02,640
data it did talk about the national

1526
01:10:02,640 --> 01:10:05,160
Pupil Transportation Association yeah I

1527
01:10:05,160 --> 01:10:06,540
was just wondering if the New York State

1528
01:10:06,540 --> 01:10:09,600
Pupil Transportation Association has

1529
01:10:09,600 --> 01:10:14,110
expressed support for okay

1530
01:10:14,120 --> 01:10:17,280
I'm in New Albany and all the

1531
01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:20,340
conferences and just talk I don't I'm

1532
01:10:20,340 --> 01:10:24,480
not sure off the top of my head who your local knife corrupt is but like

1533
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:26,820
they know bus Patrol really well they

1534
01:10:26,820 --> 01:10:28,560
they're actually the ones who are like

1535
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,480
on the front lines and already getting

1536
01:10:30,480 --> 01:10:32,159
the law passed like they were the ones

1537
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:33,780
who got it over the Finish Line okay

1538
01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:35,239
thank you

1539
01:10:35,239 --> 01:10:37,440
I was saying Christopher's here okay

1540
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:39,540
well we love Dave yeah Dave is the

1541
01:10:39,540 --> 01:10:41,580
executive director I was saying I don't

1542
01:10:41,580 --> 01:10:43,920
know who the oh I know you have an owl

1543
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,199
is your transportation director in

1544
01:10:46,199 --> 01:10:48,239
Schenectady City Public Schools Outback

1545
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:51,120
she's a great guy okay but it's not a

1546
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,860
really question for you is if and when

1547
01:10:52,860 --> 01:10:54,659
we usually when they assign more things

1548
01:10:54,659 --> 01:10:57,000
towards that we're going to need support

1549
01:10:57,000 --> 01:10:59,280
Staffing from the police department and

1550
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:00,780
the Law Department because this

1551
01:11:00,780 --> 01:11:03,000
primarily is driven with the police

1552
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,219
reviewing the violation the Law

1553
01:11:05,219 --> 01:11:06,659
Department ready to take the case

1554
01:11:06,659 --> 01:11:09,239
increase medically not guilty right and

1555
01:11:09,239 --> 01:11:11,400
so so you want to disting between the

1556
01:11:11,400 --> 01:11:14,580
two agency that primarily going to be

1557
01:11:14,580 --> 01:11:18,420
involved in this implementation

1558
01:11:18,420 --> 01:11:21,420
I just have a quick question if I manage

1559
01:11:21,420 --> 01:11:24,550
um

1560
01:11:24,560 --> 01:11:27,659
since prosecuted right the burdens on

1561
01:11:27,659 --> 01:11:29,460
the city to right should the violation

1562
01:11:29,460 --> 01:11:31,260
happen all right

1563
01:11:31,260 --> 01:11:35,219
um in terms of your support for the city

1564
01:11:35,219 --> 01:11:37,400
in terms of Prosecuting this

1565
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:41,820
obviously the cloud material is just

1566
01:11:41,820 --> 01:11:44,400
that in the cloud the city gets that

1567
01:11:44,400 --> 01:11:47,400
information I assume there's a date and

1568
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,460
time associated with the violation yes

1569
01:11:50,460 --> 01:11:52,920
um and we would receive an affidavit

1570
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,920
from somebody at bus Patrol stating that

1571
01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:59,699
yes and indicating that there was no

1572
01:11:59,699 --> 01:12:03,060
deficiency in the video it was what it

1573
01:12:03,060 --> 01:12:05,280
purports to be now if somebody wanted to

1574
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:07,620
I can tell you right now we don't do a

1575
01:12:07,620 --> 01:12:10,620
Bureau for like to adjudicate these it

1576
01:12:10,620 --> 01:12:13,080
actually goes to court and we have to

1577
01:12:13,080 --> 01:12:14,940
call our Witnesses you know like we

1578
01:12:14,940 --> 01:12:16,800
would in you know for a parking ticket

1579
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,560
trial we're calling you know the parking

1580
01:12:19,560 --> 01:12:21,900
attended to come in and testify do you

1581
01:12:21,900 --> 01:12:24,659
if it was required if it was necessary

1582
01:12:24,659 --> 01:12:26,820
for the court do you provide somebody to

1583
01:12:26,820 --> 01:12:29,400
come in we will come in if someone wants

1584
01:12:29,400 --> 01:12:31,140
to challenge the technology in our

1585
01:12:31,140 --> 01:12:33,360
experience that sometimes happens and

1586
01:12:33,360 --> 01:12:35,760
then usually it creates precedent where

1587
01:12:35,760 --> 01:12:38,820
the judge will just refer back to those

1588
01:12:38,820 --> 01:12:40,800
early you know

1589
01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:42,960
um you know objections to the technology

1590
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:45,120
the New York state law says the video is

1591
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:46,920
prima fashion evidence of a violation

1592
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:48,780
occurring so you actually don't need to

1593
01:12:48,780 --> 01:12:51,300
call in like the police officer who

1594
01:12:51,300 --> 01:12:53,280
reviewed the violation that has not been

1595
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,080
my experience across the state of New

1596
01:12:55,080 --> 01:12:57,179
York to this point so it would be it

1597
01:12:57,179 --> 01:12:58,739
would surprise me if the judge required

1598
01:12:58,739 --> 01:13:04,560
it here and and generally speaking you know

1599
01:13:04,560 --> 01:13:07,020
people show up to court and then the

1600
01:13:07,020 --> 01:13:08,640
judge looks at their video and sometimes

1601
01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,560
the judge has the video screen up like

1602
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:13,560
in a room like this and it comes up and

1603
01:13:13,560 --> 01:13:15,540
people generally walk out of the

1604
01:13:15,540 --> 01:13:18,780
courtroom they're ready to kind of you

1605
01:13:18,780 --> 01:13:20,940
know end their end their fight because

1606
01:13:20,940 --> 01:13:23,040
the evidence that the video is pretty

1607
01:13:23,040 --> 01:13:26,159
black and white around what happens

1608
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:28,620
one more related question

1609
01:13:28,620 --> 01:13:30,840
um in the event somebody doesn't pay

1610
01:13:30,840 --> 01:13:33,000
pleads not guilty so they're not doing a

1611
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:36,320
pavement plan with with bus Patrol

1612
01:13:36,320 --> 01:13:39,060
records you know fines that they're

1613
01:13:39,060 --> 01:13:42,420
guilty let's say they issue a 250 dollar

1614
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:45,420
fine fine call penalty call whatever you

1615
01:13:45,420 --> 01:13:47,340
want City gets a civil judgment order

1616
01:13:47,340 --> 01:13:49,199
which we file with the county clerk's

1617
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:51,480
office we're now in the collections

1618
01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:53,580
phase and we're probably not getting

1619
01:13:53,580 --> 01:13:55,860
paid you know we're chasing after people

1620
01:13:55,860 --> 01:13:59,219
but we're not really I mean for 250 are

1621
01:13:59,219 --> 01:14:01,320
you looking for the city to pay you half

1622
01:14:01,320 --> 01:14:03,900
of that if we have not collected on the

1623
01:14:03,900 --> 01:14:07,260
250. no it's all we only get paid out of

1624
01:14:07,260 --> 01:14:09,900
collective violation robots so that's I

1625
01:14:09,900 --> 01:14:12,000
want to make sure that folks appreciate

1626
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:14,699
that so that's one two is I will say

1627
01:14:14,699 --> 01:14:16,920
that depending on the state there are

1628
01:14:16,920 --> 01:14:19,320
mechanisms to incentivize people to to

1629
01:14:19,320 --> 01:14:20,940
pay their unpaid tickets

1630
01:14:20,940 --> 01:14:21,540
um

1631
01:14:21,540 --> 01:14:24,199
uh in New York

1632
01:14:24,199 --> 01:14:27,120
uh so they don't have registration

1633
01:14:27,120 --> 01:14:28,739
tagging in New York I know like in

1634
01:14:28,739 --> 01:14:30,239
Maryland for example you need to renew

1635
01:14:30,239 --> 01:14:32,159
your driver's registration every two

1636
01:14:32,159 --> 01:14:33,840
years and that's usually they don't let

1637
01:14:33,840 --> 01:14:35,280
you renew until you pay your your

1638
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,500
parking tickets and things like that New

1639
01:14:37,500 --> 01:14:39,900
York has a I think it's like if you have

1640
01:14:39,900 --> 01:14:41,820
two or more

1641
01:14:41,820 --> 01:14:44,040
um the cities or communities can have

1642
01:14:44,040 --> 01:14:45,900
certain mechanisms at their disposal

1643
01:14:45,900 --> 01:14:48,000
like you could use a collections agency

1644
01:14:48,000 --> 01:14:50,719
some some of them your car

1645
01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:53,460
I'm not saying I'm advocating for any of

1646
01:14:53,460 --> 01:14:55,140
that it's really a public policy

1647
01:14:55,140 --> 01:14:57,179
decision for the city about what you

1648
01:14:57,179 --> 01:14:59,060
know what what you want to do to

1649
01:14:59,060 --> 01:15:02,640
incentivize people to to pay who have

1650
01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:11,649
been found liable

1651
01:15:11,659 --> 01:15:14,159
would reimburse us for the costs that we

1652
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:16,500
incur whether it be staff or all of that

1653
01:15:16,500 --> 01:15:19,500
correct but I want to be clear

1654
01:15:19,500 --> 01:15:21,780
let's say do we get 50 of what's

1655
01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:24,179
collected regardless let's say um we get

1656
01:15:24,179 --> 01:15:26,640
50 and our costs are lower than that are

1657
01:15:26,640 --> 01:15:28,800
you determining our our reimbursement

1658
01:15:28,800 --> 01:15:31,020
based on what we use

1659
01:15:31,020 --> 01:15:33,960
or is it exactly 50 of what's collected

1660
01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:35,159
it's

1661
01:15:35,159 --> 01:15:38,400
so we our standard deal I want to just

1662
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,880
be clear is generally 60 40 in in our

1663
01:15:41,880 --> 01:15:45,360
favor 60 40 in our favor and it's

1664
01:15:45,360 --> 01:15:47,280
because it's really expensive to operate

1665
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:48,960
this program and we really are providing

1666
01:15:48,960 --> 01:15:51,239
all the staff all I really just Soup To

1667
01:15:51,239 --> 01:15:53,159
Nuts so um I want to be upfront about

1668
01:15:53,159 --> 01:15:56,280
that sure um and

1669
01:15:56,280 --> 01:15:57,780
um you know that's that's our you can

1670
01:15:57,780 --> 01:15:59,219
file all of our contracts or we can

1671
01:15:59,219 --> 01:16:01,140
provide them but that's our contract in

1672
01:16:01,140 --> 01:16:03,420
places like dutches and Monroe and so

1673
01:16:03,420 --> 01:16:05,520
but

1674
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:06,480
um

1675
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,699
yeah there's no I think what you're

1676
01:16:08,699 --> 01:16:10,739
talking about is is not what we do is

1677
01:16:10,739 --> 01:16:13,500
whatever it costs you to administer the

1678
01:16:13,500 --> 01:16:15,960
program we make you hope for that so and

1679
01:16:15,960 --> 01:16:17,520
but of course that's in good faith right

1680
01:16:17,520 --> 01:16:19,580
like I said it says

1681
01:16:19,580 --> 01:16:22,260
even if you have to like for example

1682
01:16:22,260 --> 01:16:24,300
like let's just say you don't have a

1683
01:16:24,300 --> 01:16:26,580
place for the reviewers to review the

1684
01:16:26,580 --> 01:16:28,800
violations and you do desks or computers

1685
01:16:28,800 --> 01:16:30,719
or Furniture like we will we will

1686
01:16:30,719 --> 01:16:33,300
support those administrative efforts um

1687
01:16:33,300 --> 01:16:35,280
as long as they're reasonable

1688
01:16:35,280 --> 01:16:37,620
all right that's my question thank you

1689
01:16:37,620 --> 01:16:39,000
is there any other question or comments

1690
01:16:39,000 --> 01:16:40,980
so

1691
01:16:40,980 --> 01:16:43,260
um my understanding is that mayor is

1692
01:16:43,260 --> 01:16:44,820
aware of this that you've spoken with

1693
01:16:44,820 --> 01:16:46,500
mayor so I'm not sure where they uh

1694
01:16:46,500 --> 01:16:48,840
where that is at this moment and if

1695
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,100
we're going to need staff that's

1696
01:16:50,100 --> 01:16:51,300
certainly something that needs to be

1697
01:16:51,300 --> 01:16:53,580
discussed with the mayor's office and in

1698
01:16:53,580 --> 01:16:55,260
addition to that the police department

1699
01:16:55,260 --> 01:16:57,060
as well because they're they're going to

1700
01:16:57,060 --> 01:16:59,640
be involved in this on some level so at

1701
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:01,560
this point in time I would say that we

1702
01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:02,820
really can't move forward until we have

1703
01:17:02,820 --> 01:17:05,040
those further discussions but I do

1704
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:06,540
appreciate you coming in as I said at

1705
01:17:06,540 --> 01:17:07,800
the beginning

1706
01:17:07,800 --> 01:17:08,580
um

1707
01:17:08,580 --> 01:17:10,739
they I ask that they speak to the school

1708
01:17:10,739 --> 01:17:12,120
district first just to see where they

1709
01:17:12,120 --> 01:17:14,100
were with this before we spent this

1710
01:17:14,100 --> 01:17:15,480
level of

1711
01:17:15,480 --> 01:17:17,040
um time discussing it making sure the

1712
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,320
school district had mine and it's my

1713
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:20,520
understanding correct that the school

1714
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:21,960
district that was buying at the school

1715
01:17:21,960 --> 01:17:24,300
district level all right I've seen bio

1716
01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:25,980
for sure I think at the transportation

1717
01:17:25,980 --> 01:17:28,140
level and you know I addressed the

1718
01:17:28,140 --> 01:17:29,940
school board I had wonderful questions

1719
01:17:29,940 --> 01:17:32,280
just like I watched it just all of yours

1720
01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:33,659
work so

1721
01:17:33,659 --> 01:17:34,760
um

1722
01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,320
so long as there was a local law in

1723
01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:39,179
place and that's that's sort of the

1724
01:17:39,179 --> 01:17:41,940
balls in the city's Court um

1725
01:17:41,940 --> 01:17:43,380
so at this point in time I think we

1726
01:17:43,380 --> 01:17:44,520
should have those discussions with the

1727
01:17:44,520 --> 01:17:46,199
mayor of the police chief and then we

1728
01:17:46,199 --> 01:17:48,840
could talk about um passing a local law

1729
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:50,640
okay so I have any back on the agenda

1730
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:53,820
later date any other questions or I'll

1731
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:55,739
leave some business cards I have my

1732
01:17:55,739 --> 01:17:57,900
cells on and then my email

1733
01:17:57,900 --> 01:17:59,940
um I know lots and lots of questions

1734
01:17:59,940 --> 01:18:01,800
come up afterwards I'm always here call

1735
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:03,719
me text me email me I'm happy to answer

1736
01:18:03,719 --> 01:18:05,340
more questions as they come in all right

1737
01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:27,430
thank you very much

1738
01:18:27,440 --> 01:18:29,940
we have a public hearing that was held

1739
01:18:29,940 --> 01:18:32,060
on January the 9th

1740
01:18:32,060 --> 01:18:35,820
and unless it's too great for any update

1741
01:18:35,820 --> 01:18:37,739
that you may have some Department

1742
01:18:37,739 --> 01:18:39,450
development that you can share with us

1743
01:18:39,450 --> 01:18:40,560
[Music]

1744
01:18:40,560 --> 01:18:41,760
um at this point in time we haven't

1745
01:18:41,760 --> 01:18:43,480
received please

1746
01:18:43,480 --> 01:18:47,030
[Music]

1747
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:50,330
foreign

1748
01:18:50,340 --> 01:18:52,020
at this point in time we haven't

1749
01:18:52,020 --> 01:18:54,239
received any public comments

1750
01:18:54,239 --> 01:18:56,699
um I've come up with a tentative plan

1751
01:18:56,699 --> 01:18:59,300
it's on our website on how we intend to

1752
01:18:59,300 --> 01:19:02,219
categorically allocate the money on the

1753
01:19:02,219 --> 01:19:03,840
next steps for our purposes will be to

1754
01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:05,940
work with cares to get our P process out

1755
01:19:05,940 --> 01:19:09,960
which agencies can apply for

1756
01:19:09,960 --> 01:19:11,880
thank you are there any comments from my

1757
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,300
colleagues with regards to this

1758
01:19:14,300 --> 01:19:24,850
thank you very much

1759
01:19:24,860 --> 01:19:27,659
Excuse Me Miss uh Diaz said that we

1760
01:19:27,659 --> 01:19:29,040
didn't need anything well we didn't need

1761
01:19:29,040 --> 01:19:31,260
anything but there's just one clarify oh

1762
01:19:31,260 --> 01:19:33,420
we have to wait on the alternative

1763
01:19:33,420 --> 01:19:36,239
oh yeah okay okay all right so we didn't

1764
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:37,860
need to take any in no actually I

1765
01:19:37,860 --> 01:19:39,239
understand it I'm sorry all right any

1766
01:19:39,239 --> 01:19:43,149
other business before Finance

1767
01:19:43,159 --> 01:19:47,659
second all in favor all right

1768
01:19:47,659 --> 01:19:49,679
call the order of government operations

1769
01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:52,739
we have four items on the agenda the

1770
01:19:52,739 --> 01:19:54,540
first one being regarding the frequency

1771
01:19:54,540 --> 01:19:56,520
of a collection of white goods and that

1772
01:19:56,520 --> 01:20:01,200
is

1773
01:20:01,210 --> 01:20:03,380
[Music]

1774
01:20:03,380 --> 01:20:07,189
excuse me

1775
01:20:07,199 --> 01:20:08,880
I'll legislative request form you have

1776
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:10,440
on Instagram it's just a call for public

1777
01:20:10,440 --> 01:20:11,760
hearing regarding the frequency of the

1778
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,980
collection of white foods like goods are

1779
01:20:13,980 --> 01:20:15,900
defined in the seacoat and as our

1780
01:20:15,900 --> 01:20:17,960
refrigerators washer dryers

1781
01:20:17,960 --> 01:20:19,520
dishwashers

1782
01:20:19,520 --> 01:20:22,739
frequency is weekly and we'd like to see

1783
01:20:22,739 --> 01:20:24,239
a vegan that changed to monthly just

1784
01:20:24,239 --> 01:20:26,460
because of the we really don't have a

1785
01:20:26,460 --> 01:20:27,960
lot of ointments being collected at this

1786
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:29,760
time to have a truck out there riding

1787
01:20:29,760 --> 01:20:32,280
around so um but they've had that put on

1788
01:20:32,280 --> 01:20:34,440
the frequency of schedules scheduled for

1789
01:20:34,440 --> 01:20:37,280
the trash collection as a monthly event

1790
01:20:37,280 --> 01:20:42,770
for the collection of those kids

1791
01:20:42,780 --> 01:20:46,199
questions and comments on that and they

1792
01:20:46,199 --> 01:20:47,400
were just calling for a public hearing

1793
01:20:47,400 --> 01:20:50,340
so how often how many trucks do we have

1794
01:20:50,340 --> 01:20:52,080
to do this with we have one rack truck

1795
01:20:52,080 --> 01:20:54,120
that goes out with one

1796
01:20:54,120 --> 01:20:57,120
okay for the entire city well for the

1797
01:20:57,120 --> 01:20:59,699
route for that day to Rob okay so yeah

1798
01:20:59,699 --> 01:21:02,219
but we have one talk period so on this

1799
01:21:02,219 --> 01:21:05,400
day this route the one tracker okay

1800
01:21:05,400 --> 01:21:07,679
and right now it's weekly correct in

1801
01:21:07,679 --> 01:21:10,020
this week okay

1802
01:21:10,020 --> 01:21:13,800
when you when you say when you say we

1803
01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:15,300
don't have that many white goods could

1804
01:21:15,300 --> 01:21:18,540
you give us the Scrappers are taking

1805
01:21:18,540 --> 01:21:21,000
away Goods right now also we don't by

1806
01:21:21,000 --> 01:21:22,260
the time we get there our normal route

1807
01:21:22,260 --> 01:21:24,719
most of the time they're gone

1808
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:27,659
um you know they're

1809
01:21:27,659 --> 01:21:30,600
the scrap prices are very low right now

1810
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:33,840
um and you know they're out there we

1811
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:36,320
just like to do this on a monthly event

1812
01:21:36,320 --> 01:21:38,880
put it down on the third collection week

1813
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:41,580
and and we'll get them picked up and if

1814
01:21:41,580 --> 01:21:43,920
we do get a call we may have enough to

1815
01:21:43,920 --> 01:21:46,199
make it worth our while to go to the

1816
01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:48,960
scrap yard and get some type of scrap

1817
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,300
value for them going out every week and

1818
01:21:51,300 --> 01:21:53,820
picking up a single unit

1819
01:21:53,820 --> 01:21:55,800
you know if we do get that call it's

1820
01:21:55,800 --> 01:21:58,260
there's not a value that's really a cost

1821
01:21:58,260 --> 01:22:00,120
of the city so looking at rescheduling

1822
01:22:00,120 --> 01:22:02,940
for monthly it's appropriate so we're

1823
01:22:02,940 --> 01:22:04,980
fine you're constantly uh looking to

1824
01:22:04,980 --> 01:22:07,440
operate our systems more efficient and

1825
01:22:07,440 --> 01:22:09,120
effectively I appreciate that and it

1826
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:11,280
seems like this is just based on you

1827
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:12,980
know you have the truck out there

1828
01:22:12,980 --> 01:22:16,199
that's labor and

1829
01:22:16,199 --> 01:22:18,380
you know funds and things that could be

1830
01:22:18,380 --> 01:22:21,920
kind of directive or different more

1831
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,120
that person's pretty much on standby

1832
01:22:24,120 --> 01:22:26,940
gets a call from the Packers around the

1833
01:22:26,940 --> 01:22:28,560
waste collection guys are out there to

1834
01:22:28,560 --> 01:22:30,179
go to certain address and then we'll

1835
01:22:30,179 --> 01:22:33,000
pick up that and they go back it's just

1836
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:35,100
it's not efficient you know we can do

1837
01:22:35,100 --> 01:22:38,159
you know when I pick up that month we

1838
01:22:38,159 --> 01:22:40,380
can go out and collect you know truck

1839
01:22:40,380 --> 01:22:42,179
fall if they're out there for us it's

1840
01:22:42,179 --> 01:22:45,179
efficient to do one that whole day it's

1841
01:22:45,179 --> 01:22:51,070
not efficient foreign

1842
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,640
two questions one is

1843
01:22:53,640 --> 01:22:55,620
um how do you plan to communicate this

1844
01:22:55,620 --> 01:22:56,580
out

1845
01:22:56,580 --> 01:22:58,860
um in terms of that it would be once a

1846
01:22:58,860 --> 01:23:00,659
month instead of weekly and the second

1847
01:23:00,659 --> 01:23:03,360
part of that is in giving up garbage

1848
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:05,340
schedules uh in my neighborhood I'm

1849
01:23:05,340 --> 01:23:07,080
actually on the garbage it is on the

1850
01:23:07,080 --> 01:23:08,880
garbage schedule but um people were

1851
01:23:08,880 --> 01:23:11,159
contacting me back and saying what's a

1852
01:23:11,159 --> 01:23:13,620
white good so I just I know those

1853
01:23:13,620 --> 01:23:16,140
garbage schedules are so packed with

1854
01:23:16,140 --> 01:23:18,840
information is listed in the city code

1855
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,020
currently and you know if if you go to

1856
01:23:22,020 --> 01:23:24,179
seaco you'll know what a white bit is

1857
01:23:24,179 --> 01:23:25,380
the only reason it's brought up is

1858
01:23:25,380 --> 01:23:27,300
unfortunate because we mentioned it yeah

1859
01:23:27,300 --> 01:23:29,100
I'm on the card yeah we brought it up

1860
01:23:29,100 --> 01:23:31,380
and people can call in we do explain

1861
01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:33,060
what the white good is could you refer

1862
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:35,460
them to the city code but right now we

1863
01:23:35,460 --> 01:23:37,320
are picking up weekly because obviously

1864
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:38,940
we had a schedule that we had to meet to

1865
01:23:38,940 --> 01:23:41,640
get the new 2023 cards out right right

1866
01:23:41,640 --> 01:23:43,980
so we did put it on there uh it's a

1867
01:23:43,980 --> 01:23:46,800
circle wait to pick up so we want to go

1868
01:23:46,800 --> 01:23:48,420
through the public area

1869
01:23:48,420 --> 01:23:50,340
and we'll be on the schedule but we had

1870
01:23:50,340 --> 01:23:52,620
to really start the schedule back in

1871
01:23:52,620 --> 01:23:54,480
late November to get into the printer

1872
01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:56,219
again no no no I get it

1873
01:23:56,219 --> 01:24:00,950
yeah they're like gold and again

1874
01:24:00,960 --> 01:24:02,880
um you answered most of my questions but

1875
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:04,920
again thank you for your efficiency and

1876
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,480
this will actually help The Scrappers

1877
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:08,820
and cut down on them

1878
01:24:08,820 --> 01:24:12,239
every night in every neighborhood

1879
01:24:12,239 --> 01:24:14,580
um rummaging through

1880
01:24:14,580 --> 01:24:16,739
um waking people so I think it's a great

1881
01:24:16,739 --> 01:24:18,540
idea

1882
01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:20,760
maybe we can well they're gonna wake you

1883
01:24:20,760 --> 01:24:21,780
up more because they're gonna have more

1884
01:24:21,780 --> 01:24:24,540
now this is gonna be once once a month

1885
01:24:24,540 --> 01:24:27,850
now

1886
01:24:27,860 --> 01:24:31,040
yeah seriously yeah

1887
01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:33,420
we'll keep that truck loaded we'll move

1888
01:24:33,420 --> 01:24:35,640
that to the scrap yard and scrap yards

1889
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,260
actually they just send the check to the

1890
01:24:37,260 --> 01:24:39,239
city skyview's followers office

1891
01:24:39,239 --> 01:24:40,920
the scrap is going to meet you too that

1892
01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,870
they threw up during the night

1893
01:24:43,880 --> 01:24:47,159
but so my other thought is that in terms

1894
01:24:47,159 --> 01:24:49,260
of the word white goods I mean why don't

1895
01:24:49,260 --> 01:24:51,480
you say stoves and refrigerators because

1896
01:24:51,480 --> 01:24:53,820
it's a whole and then you know like in

1897
01:24:53,820 --> 01:24:55,260
parentheses or something so people have

1898
01:24:55,260 --> 01:24:57,900
understanding I mean I get it but you

1899
01:24:57,900 --> 01:25:00,000
know and that's it's not a city's

1900
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:02,400
connectivity term yeah look at Albany

1901
01:25:02,400 --> 01:25:08,460
yeah that's what they Define you know we can call household appliances no just

1902
01:25:08,460 --> 01:25:09,840
something in front seats I'm not saying

1903
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:11,580
that just so people understand Clarity

1904
01:25:11,580 --> 01:25:13,560
is always good and when we do the card

1905
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:15,239
again yeah when we do the card okay we

1906
01:25:15,239 --> 01:25:16,500
have to find a room on a card yeah we

1907
01:25:16,500 --> 01:25:17,580
have trouble trying to make it small

1908
01:25:17,580 --> 01:25:19,340
enough

1909
01:25:19,340 --> 01:25:22,500
to them I'd love that there's so much on

1910
01:25:22,500 --> 01:25:25,440
that card to you know start going bigger

1911
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:27,600
and a lot of people want to I mean like

1912
01:25:27,600 --> 01:25:29,040
the size of the car because it doesn't

1913
01:25:29,040 --> 01:25:31,860
take a lot of room off exactly exactly

1914
01:25:31,860 --> 01:25:34,219
just just two more ones that's all

1915
01:25:34,219 --> 01:25:38,340
so if they put it out on a not white day

1916
01:25:38,340 --> 01:25:40,679
um will it stay there until the next

1917
01:25:40,679 --> 01:25:42,560
cycle

1918
01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,000
so what happens is

1919
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,739
garbage is supposed to be put on a

1920
01:25:46,739 --> 01:25:49,140
specific time yeah not before after two

1921
01:25:49,140 --> 01:25:51,239
o'clock right and we all know

1922
01:25:51,239 --> 01:25:52,920
um because of our Halloween schedule

1923
01:25:52,920 --> 01:25:55,080
people do get confused it's a real look

1924
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:57,060
outside and say Mrs Smith just put their

1925
01:25:57,060 --> 01:25:58,679
garbage out so it must be garbage and

1926
01:25:58,679 --> 01:25:59,580
they see you know the whole streets

1927
01:25:59,580 --> 01:26:01,199
after garbage truck it's Friday and

1928
01:26:01,199 --> 01:26:02,460
there's a Monday holiday so it's out for

1929
01:26:02,460 --> 01:26:05,580
the whole weekend plus the Monday we try

1930
01:26:05,580 --> 01:26:07,500
to be sympathetic with regards to citing

1931
01:26:07,500 --> 01:26:10,139
people but you know you know one of the

1932
01:26:10,139 --> 01:26:12,600
things is you know to enforce because we

1933
01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:14,340
are in the midst of talking about their

1934
01:26:14,340 --> 01:26:16,080
different things in the city of sanctity

1935
01:26:16,080 --> 01:26:18,840
and the way that

1936
01:26:18,840 --> 01:26:20,219
just like we just heard a presentation

1937
01:26:20,219 --> 01:26:21,420
that if you don't enforce something

1938
01:26:21,420 --> 01:26:24,120
school buses and violators then we don't

1939
01:26:24,120 --> 01:26:26,699
enforce our own codes it's never going

1940
01:26:26,699 --> 01:26:30,300
to change so unfortunately you know Law

1941
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:31,500
Department we're talking about some

1942
01:26:31,500 --> 01:26:33,600
things that the city codes with you know

1943
01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,159
honor me for a certain time than that

1944
01:26:35,159 --> 01:26:36,300
after

1945
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:38,580
um you know to have garbage out there

1946
01:26:38,580 --> 01:26:40,380
it's picked up it's not out there on

1947
01:26:40,380 --> 01:26:42,060
Friday and we're not doing the money and

1948
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:43,139
you know there's some things we'd like

1949
01:26:43,139 --> 01:26:44,460
to talk about

1950
01:26:44,460 --> 01:26:46,739
further with regards to waste

1951
01:26:46,739 --> 01:26:48,420
collections but right now we're starting

1952
01:26:48,420 --> 01:26:51,659
just schedule all the way Goods thank

1953
01:26:51,659 --> 01:26:52,500
you

1954
01:26:52,500 --> 01:26:55,800
just a follow-up question so if someone

1955
01:26:55,800 --> 01:26:58,380
were to put out the white goods on a

1956
01:26:58,380 --> 01:27:00,540
regular garbage day but it's not

1957
01:27:00,540 --> 01:27:02,760
designated for white goods They will

1958
01:27:02,760 --> 01:27:05,280
receive a violation They will receive a

1959
01:27:05,280 --> 01:27:07,580
notice it's capabilities

1960
01:27:07,580 --> 01:27:09,600
it's going to be a violation it's a

1961
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:10,739
violation they're gonna have to pull

1962
01:27:10,739 --> 01:27:12,659
them back in your yard you know one of

1963
01:27:12,659 --> 01:27:14,820
the other things we've talked about is

1964
01:27:14,820 --> 01:27:16,860
and when we write a nuisance violation

1965
01:27:16,860 --> 01:27:19,020
or a

1966
01:27:19,020 --> 01:27:20,699
you know they have so many days to

1967
01:27:20,699 --> 01:27:22,980
correct that violation so if you put

1968
01:27:22,980 --> 01:27:24,540
your garbage out two days early and you

1969
01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:25,739
get three days to correct the violation

1970
01:27:25,739 --> 01:27:28,199
input opportunities you're never going

1971
01:27:28,199 --> 01:27:30,239
to get to the violation so there are

1972
01:27:30,239 --> 01:27:32,159
some things we have to look further in

1973
01:27:32,159 --> 01:27:35,040
our trash collection

1974
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,679
um regulations in the city code to make

1975
01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:39,000
some changes that will help to see

1976
01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:41,520
overall with with later in the

1977
01:27:41,520 --> 01:27:42,490
collection

1978
01:27:42,490 --> 01:27:44,880
[Music]

1979
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:47,040
school as I say technically we do not

1980
01:27:47,040 --> 01:27:49,260
have to issue a notice of violation when

1981
01:27:49,260 --> 01:27:50,940
somebody's in violation when it comes to

1982
01:27:50,940 --> 01:27:53,420
matters that Mr Lafond just referred to

1983
01:27:53,420 --> 01:27:57,000
just been a habit where we issued where

1984
01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:58,040
yeah

1985
01:27:58,040 --> 01:28:01,139
employee one of the snap guys will issue

1986
01:28:01,139 --> 01:28:03,540
a notice of violation so Mr lafon said

1987
01:28:03,540 --> 01:28:05,360
you can put your trash out right now

1988
01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:09,300
after 2 p.m the day before right so if

1989
01:28:09,300 --> 01:28:11,460
you put your garbage out even the day

1990
01:28:11,460 --> 01:28:14,460
before that so two days before after 2

1991
01:28:14,460 --> 01:28:16,739
p.m and where it's out and even let's

1992
01:28:16,739 --> 01:28:19,440
say it's the morning two days before and

1993
01:28:19,440 --> 01:28:22,320
a member of snap goes out and issues

1994
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:23,820
that notice of violation saying you have

1995
01:28:23,820 --> 01:28:27,179
one day to correct this well you wait 24

1996
01:28:27,179 --> 01:28:30,060
hours and it's now after 2 p.m the day

1997
01:28:30,060 --> 01:28:32,340
before you're in compliance now without

1998
01:28:32,340 --> 01:28:35,219
having done anything that's the issue

1999
01:28:35,219 --> 01:28:38,280
now you know it's uh as Mr Lafond

2000
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:39,360
indicated was something we're talking

2001
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:41,580
about to address because I think we've

2002
01:28:41,580 --> 01:28:42,360
all

2003
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,940
seen the sushi were garbage is out too

2004
01:28:44,940 --> 01:28:47,460
soon and it's a lot of stuff we're not

2005
01:28:47,460 --> 01:28:49,080
talking just like a couple garbage cans

2006
01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,020
we're talking about trash right

2007
01:28:51,020 --> 01:28:54,540
Furniture mattresses white you know

2008
01:28:54,540 --> 01:28:56,760
these these white goods

2009
01:28:56,760 --> 01:28:58,800
um so we're obviously looking to address

2010
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,260
this issue I think more comprehensively

2011
01:29:01,260 --> 01:29:02,639
with something that you know we're

2012
01:29:02,639 --> 01:29:04,620
working through to you know hopefully at

2013
01:29:04,620 --> 01:29:06,420
some point come to the council to you

2014
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:09,530
know for consideration

2015
01:29:09,540 --> 01:29:12,719
so so is there a grace period

2016
01:29:12,719 --> 01:29:15,060
um whenever we change what the way we do

2017
01:29:15,060 --> 01:29:16,679
it is there a great Superior for people

2018
01:29:16,679 --> 01:29:19,500
not getting this violation immediately

2019
01:29:19,500 --> 01:29:22,080
and is there a cost

2020
01:29:22,080 --> 01:29:23,820
um connecting device so you give them a

2021
01:29:23,820 --> 01:29:25,260
violation in like with code enforcement

2022
01:29:25,260 --> 01:29:26,400
I know people come out for certain

2023
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:29,340
things you get a 50 fee fine

2024
01:29:29,340 --> 01:29:31,800
is there is this attached and fine well

2025
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:34,860
there will be you know I mean there will

2026
01:29:34,860 --> 01:29:36,719
be what we'll say thanks but there's

2027
01:29:36,719 --> 01:29:38,639
gonna be a period of transition okay

2028
01:29:38,639 --> 01:29:40,620
like right now the schedule says it's

2029
01:29:40,620 --> 01:29:42,420
scheduled and people call them right now

2030
01:29:42,420 --> 01:29:44,340
it's not been approved but we have to

2031
01:29:44,340 --> 01:29:46,560
prepare the schedules in advance

2032
01:29:46,560 --> 01:29:49,020
um and you know if there's any confusion

2033
01:29:49,020 --> 01:29:50,460
and it does need change but we're going

2034
01:29:50,460 --> 01:29:51,719
to collect on a weekly basis because the

2035
01:29:51,719 --> 01:29:53,280
code right now says you know see code

2036
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:56,580
and there's also you know

2037
01:29:56,580 --> 01:29:58,440
and you should know that you know if

2038
01:29:58,440 --> 01:29:59,820
there's something on there if you look

2039
01:29:59,820 --> 01:30:01,139
at the city code it's defined in the

2040
01:30:01,139 --> 01:30:02,580
city code and we can't Define everything

2041
01:30:02,580 --> 01:30:05,940
on that card we just have to do a quick

2042
01:30:05,940 --> 01:30:08,580
jump start on the car to get it in there

2043
01:30:08,580 --> 01:30:11,040
for 23 season and I

2044
01:30:11,040 --> 01:30:13,080
you know we are not out there to just

2045
01:30:13,080 --> 01:30:15,239
you know start to penalize everybody but

2046
01:30:15,239 --> 01:30:17,520
after you know a couple months there

2047
01:30:17,520 --> 01:30:19,980
should be no they got to be picked up

2048
01:30:19,980 --> 01:30:22,560
yeah we don't we don't get one and this

2049
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:23,820
is one reason why it's not like we're

2050
01:30:23,820 --> 01:30:24,960
out there every day picking up a truck

2051
01:30:24,960 --> 01:30:27,719
of um appliances and we don't get a

2052
01:30:27,719 --> 01:30:30,659
truck load anymore I mean they're just

2053
01:30:30,659 --> 01:30:33,179
not out there and appliances will ask

2054
01:30:33,179 --> 01:30:34,800
people buy new appliances typically the

2055
01:30:34,800 --> 01:30:37,080
applied saying Lowe's they'll take them

2056
01:30:37,080 --> 01:30:38,820
all away the old ones for you so they're

2057
01:30:38,820 --> 01:30:41,159
moving them it's usually the person the

2058
01:30:41,159 --> 01:30:42,480
homeowner goes and buys them themselves

2059
01:30:42,480 --> 01:30:43,800
and they'll put they're all going to get

2060
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:46,860
outside and it's not too frequent

2061
01:30:46,860 --> 01:30:49,560
um you know most of the time I mean the

2062
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:51,000
people you buy your best one they'll

2063
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:52,380
take the old one away

2064
01:30:52,380 --> 01:30:54,120
so it's

2065
01:30:54,120 --> 01:30:57,540
they don't see a big impact or a lot of

2066
01:30:57,540 --> 01:30:59,699
confusion on it and you know because of

2067
01:30:59,699 --> 01:31:01,080
this change we're going to work with

2068
01:31:01,080 --> 01:31:05,209
everybody thank you

2069
01:31:05,219 --> 01:31:07,920
being responsive to the easier Community

2070
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:12,010
um

2071
01:31:12,020 --> 01:31:16,320
yeah so I'll accept the motion I'll move

2072
01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,679
it second what was in favor

2073
01:31:19,679 --> 01:31:24,420
thank you thank you thank you so just so this is called for public

2074
01:31:24,420 --> 01:31:27,310
hearing yeah

2075
01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,760
it's going to be

2076
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:31,980
um so the council will pass the

2077
01:31:31,980 --> 01:31:35,100
resolution next week yeah that'll be the

2078
01:31:35,100 --> 01:31:37,260
next council meeting after that which I

2079
01:31:37,260 --> 01:31:39,300
believe is in February now so February

2080
01:31:39,300 --> 01:31:52,199
13th okay our next item on the agenda is is

2081
01:31:52,199 --> 01:31:53,760
the authorize the mayor it doesn't need

2082
01:31:53,760 --> 01:31:56,040
to enter into an agreement with New York

2083
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:57,600
state division of Homeland Security and

2084
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,580
emergency services to accept fifty

2085
01:31:59,580 --> 01:32:01,739
thousand dollars on federal funding

2086
01:32:01,739 --> 01:32:03,960
um under the FY 2020 cyber security

2087
01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:07,920
grant program uh senior McCarthy

2088
01:32:07,920 --> 01:32:16,330
um

2089
01:32:16,340 --> 01:32:19,560
I think we received this cyber security

2090
01:32:19,560 --> 01:32:21,960
grants from Homeland Security and

2091
01:32:21,960 --> 01:32:23,300
emergency services

2092
01:32:23,300 --> 01:32:27,320
and this uh 50 000

2093
01:32:27,320 --> 01:32:30,659
we can use it to strengthen our cyber

2094
01:32:30,659 --> 01:32:33,179
security so you can get some you know

2095
01:32:33,179 --> 01:32:35,040
like software for The Incident

2096
01:32:35,040 --> 01:32:38,960
Management and training the staff and

2097
01:32:38,960 --> 01:32:42,120
different things what can be worked on

2098
01:32:42,120 --> 01:33:06,470
that's ever seen it

2099
01:33:06,480 --> 01:33:09,179
okay just a reminder

2100
01:33:09,179 --> 01:33:09,960
um

2101
01:33:09,960 --> 01:33:12,719
that the public hearing was held on the

2102
01:33:12,719 --> 01:33:15,540
9th around article two of the city code

2103
01:33:15,540 --> 01:33:19,990
of garden businesses certificate of use

2104
01:33:20,000 --> 01:33:22,159
in our

2105
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:24,659
any questions or comments around that

2106
01:33:24,659 --> 01:33:26,340
from my colleagues

2107
01:33:26,340 --> 01:33:28,500
I'll just move it that we um put it move

2108
01:33:28,500 --> 01:33:31,850
it to the agenda

2109
01:33:31,860 --> 01:33:34,500
second second no I was announcements

2110
01:33:34,500 --> 01:33:44,290
okay

2111
01:33:44,300 --> 01:33:48,320
what was the paper hi thank you

2112
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:52,139
okay and last but not least is a

2113
01:33:52,139 --> 01:33:54,060
discussion of the queen State act

2114
01:33:54,060 --> 01:33:57,139
follow-up of Mr Williams thank you so um

2115
01:33:57,139 --> 01:33:59,820
last meeting we discussed having the

2116
01:33:59,820 --> 01:34:02,520
initial conversations and then we told

2117
01:34:02,520 --> 01:34:03,840
the council that if there were any

2118
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:05,580
questions or follow-ups we absolutely

2119
01:34:05,580 --> 01:34:06,960
addressed those things to see if there

2120
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:08,460
are any

2121
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:13,000
such comments

2122
01:34:13,010 --> 01:34:15,480
[Music]

2123
01:34:15,480 --> 01:34:18,659
if there aren't any I would like to make

2124
01:34:18,659 --> 01:34:22,380
or suggest a motion to

2125
01:34:22,380 --> 01:34:27,169
do the stigma support no no

2126
01:34:27,179 --> 01:34:28,980
did you

2127
01:34:28,980 --> 01:34:30,800
yeah

2128
01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:34,139
but any questions or comments before so

2129
01:34:34,139 --> 01:34:35,719
okay okay

2130
01:34:35,719 --> 01:34:41,280
I'll move it a second that was in favor

2131
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:45,729
okay I'd like to make a motion to it

2132
01:34:45,739 --> 01:34:48,120
you know the business to come for

2133
01:34:48,120 --> 01:34:50,940
government operations on the agenda okay

2134
01:34:50,940 --> 01:34:53,100
so at this point I'd like to make a

2135
01:34:53,100 --> 01:34:55,620
motion to our general operations

2136
01:34:55,620 --> 01:34:59,480
so second what was a favor

2137
01:34:59,480 --> 01:35:01,800
thank you I'd like to follow the order

2138
01:35:01,800 --> 01:35:03,540
of Community Development and planning we

2139
01:35:03,540 --> 01:35:05,520
have six items on the agenda actually

2140
01:35:05,520 --> 01:35:07,679
three are going to be pulled uh the

2141
01:35:07,679 --> 01:35:09,659
first item on the agenda is to request

2142
01:35:09,659 --> 01:35:12,719
the for authorization to purchase sodium

2143
01:35:12,719 --> 01:35:15,600
chlora rights 2023 for the wastewater

2144
01:35:15,600 --> 01:35:18,900
treatment plant Mr Lafont

2145
01:35:18,900 --> 01:35:25,149
okay

2146
01:35:25,159 --> 01:35:29,159
legislative question I'm funny is to

2147
01:35:29,159 --> 01:35:30,900
purchase organical part which is used

2148
01:35:30,900 --> 01:35:31,980
for disinfection the wastewater

2149
01:35:31,980 --> 01:35:34,800
treatment plant it was out to Great

2150
01:35:34,800 --> 01:35:38,280
competitivity bids we had one no big two

2151
01:35:38,280 --> 01:35:41,060
bidders responded a little bit because

2152
01:35:41,060 --> 01:35:43,380
surface chemicals they were also the

2153
01:35:43,380 --> 01:35:46,320
supplier last year the unfortunate thing

2154
01:35:46,320 --> 01:35:48,260
for the economy was what's going on

2155
01:35:48,260 --> 01:35:51,300
because it roughly 91 increase in the

2156
01:35:51,300 --> 01:35:53,280
cost of sodium point before I eat along

2157
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,320
across the board we'll flash your work

2158
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:58,080
paying the 1.027 per gallon we are going

2159
01:35:58,080 --> 01:36:02,040
to nucleus we need 1.966 with another 13

2160
01:36:02,040 --> 01:36:04,260
increase in the 13th after the first

2161
01:36:04,260 --> 01:36:06,239
quarter

2162
01:36:06,239 --> 01:36:09,719
so it's unfortunate where things are

2163
01:36:09,719 --> 01:36:10,500
going

2164
01:36:10,500 --> 01:36:15,320
um cost but it is here it is

2165
01:36:15,320 --> 01:36:19,370
charging for the river

2166
01:36:19,380 --> 01:36:21,800
that was below

2167
01:36:21,800 --> 01:36:24,900
any questions

2168
01:36:24,900 --> 01:36:28,570
um

2169
01:36:28,580 --> 01:36:31,820
thank you very much

2170
01:36:31,820 --> 01:36:35,120
okay item number two um

2171
01:36:35,120 --> 01:36:37,739
Mr wall asked that we pulled that item

2172
01:36:37,739 --> 01:36:41,159
from the agenda for tonight and item is

2173
01:36:41,159 --> 01:36:42,780
number three and four of the department

2174
01:36:42,780 --> 01:36:45,060
head is here has also asked that we pull

2175
01:36:45,060 --> 01:36:46,860
those items from the from the agenda

2176
01:36:46,860 --> 01:36:49,080
we've not gone through all the public

2177
01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:51,300
commentary at this point we want to make

2178
01:36:51,300 --> 01:36:52,980
sure that we're through that before the

2179
01:36:52,980 --> 01:36:56,040
council takes any action on it

2180
01:36:56,040 --> 01:37:07,570
properties

2181
01:37:07,580 --> 01:37:11,880
okay just want to be clear that um my

2182
01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:13,380
understanding of items number five and

2183
01:37:13,380 --> 01:37:15,780
six because these are public entities do

2184
01:37:15,780 --> 01:37:18,659
not be need to be excuse me executive

2185
01:37:18,659 --> 01:37:21,000
session that's correct

2186
01:37:21,000 --> 01:37:46,750
um

2187
01:37:46,760 --> 01:37:50,780
1025 Congress Street is a private sale

2188
01:37:50,780 --> 01:37:54,659
the other sale is

2189
01:37:54,659 --> 01:37:59,520
um the the offer or here is Habitat for

2190
01:37:59,520 --> 01:38:01,440
Humanity obviously there is a purchase

2191
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:03,420
offer certainly within the council's

2192
01:38:03,420 --> 01:38:05,159
discretion to

2193
01:38:05,159 --> 01:38:07,500
um do both in public there's no

2194
01:38:07,500 --> 01:38:10,020
requirements that you do both an

2195
01:38:10,020 --> 01:38:11,580
executive section it's certainly

2196
01:38:11,580 --> 01:38:14,280
possible that you can do particularly 10

2197
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:16,320
25 Congress and executive soccer and you

2198
01:38:16,320 --> 01:38:18,300
can do the other one the vacant lot of

2199
01:38:18,300 --> 01:38:19,800
Avenue a

2200
01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:23,280
um in public if you'd like

2201
01:38:23,280 --> 01:38:26,280
because it still does involve an offer

2202
01:38:26,280 --> 01:38:29,400
price and a good potential negotiating a

2203
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,760
sale price for a property okay so I'd

2204
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:35,360
like to err on the side of caution

2205
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:52,330
executive sessions

2206
01:38:52,340 --> 01:38:55,739
all right we're recessed

2207
01:38:55,739 --> 01:38:59,340
Miss Patrick oh now I'll make a motion

2208
01:38:59,340 --> 01:39:03,490
to go into executive session

2209
01:39:03,500 --> 01:39:06,600
oh I'm sorry I was just knowing that we

2210
01:39:06,600 --> 01:39:08,880
probably were going to go into I would

2211
01:39:08,880 --> 01:39:10,920
now like to open claims we have three

2212
01:39:10,920 --> 01:39:13,320
items on the agenda and we need to

2213
01:39:13,320 --> 01:39:15,120
discuss those in executive session so

2214
01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,620
I'll entertain a motion to go into a

2215
01:39:16,620 --> 01:39:27,189
secular session

2216
01:39:27,199 --> 01:39:32,570
thank you

2217
01:39:32,580 --> 01:39:35,930
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