1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:17,380 2 00:00:17,380 --> 00:00:18,570 Good afternoon, everybody. 3 00:00:18,570 --> 00:00:21,340 We're going to give us everybody about another minute or two 4 00:00:21,340 --> 00:00:22,770 to join the meeting. 5 00:00:22,770 --> 00:02:39,790 6 00:02:39,790 --> 00:02:41,310 I got 8 on my. 7 00:02:41,310 --> 00:02:58,000 8 00:02:58,000 --> 00:03:03,580 Well, good afternoon and welcome to the 6th February 2023 9 00:03:03,580 --> 00:03:05,430 community. 10 00:03:05,430 --> 00:03:10,320 Renewable Energy Agency board meeting, and 11 00:03:10,320 --> 00:03:12,460 we'll go through introductions. 12 00:03:12,460 --> 00:03:16,380 We'll start with those in the room 13 00:03:16,380 --> 00:03:18,420 and then we'll go through the ones online 14 00:03:18,420 --> 00:03:20,170 and I'll just call out your name. 15 00:03:20,170 --> 00:03:23,700 So starting with Councilmember Quinn. 16 00:03:23,700 --> 00:03:25,570 Drew Quinn, city of Holiday. 17 00:03:25,570 --> 00:03:28,860 And I'm a voting member, Shari Jackson, millcreek, 18 00:03:28,860 --> 00:03:31,450 and I'm voting today. 19 00:03:31,450 --> 00:03:34,710 I'm Dan Duggan, Salt Lake City voting today. 20 00:03:34,710 --> 00:03:38,490 Emily Quinton, Summit County alternate board member. 21 00:03:38,490 --> 00:03:40,590 Our primary bot member, Roger Armstrong 22 00:03:40,590 --> 00:03:44,940 will not be able to make it today, so I will be voting. 23 00:03:44,940 --> 00:03:46,380 Christopher Thomas, Salt Lake City 24 00:03:46,380 --> 00:03:50,650 alternate board member will not be voting today. 25 00:03:50,650 --> 00:03:51,825 And Luke. 26 00:03:51,825 --> 00:03:55,180 27 00:03:55,180 --> 00:03:58,780 Luke Carton Park City municipal voting today. 28 00:03:58,780 --> 00:03:59,640 Michele Barney. 29 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:03,710 30 00:04:03,710 --> 00:04:04,610 I'm Michelle. 31 00:04:04,610 --> 00:04:06,650 Barney I'm doing your minutes today with Salt 32 00:04:06,650 --> 00:04:08,480 Lake City recorder's office. 33 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:12,400 Thank you, Bob Davis. 34 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,520 Division of public utilities just listening to. 35 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:16,484 Thank you, Joe. 36 00:04:16,484 --> 00:04:19,220 37 00:04:19,220 --> 00:04:24,010 Bill Frazier, Oakley, Citi and I am voting, Randy. 38 00:04:24,010 --> 00:04:26,740 39 00:04:26,740 --> 00:04:28,810 In the tiny town of Springdale. 40 00:04:28,810 --> 00:04:30,530 We'll be voting today. 41 00:04:30,530 --> 00:04:31,030 Chris? 42 00:04:31,030 --> 00:04:35,600 43 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:38,310 a Chris Conley 10 about the ultimate board member. 44 00:04:38,310 --> 00:04:40,190 It will be voting today. 45 00:04:40,190 --> 00:04:45,260 Suzanne Suzanne alger, town of Springdale. 46 00:04:45,260 --> 00:04:47,810 I will not be voting today. 47 00:04:47,810 --> 00:04:53,630 Given Galen Jones city of Moab voting 48 00:04:53,630 --> 00:04:58,160 Angela and Susie Angela to at Ogden city 49 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:00,260 and I will be voting today. 50 00:05:00,260 --> 00:05:13,120 Pamela you don't hear you, Pamela, 51 00:05:13,120 --> 00:05:15,135 but I saw you clicked your mic. 52 00:05:15,135 --> 00:05:17,650 53 00:05:17,650 --> 00:05:19,480 Can you hear me now? 54 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,430 Faintly, Yes. 55 00:05:20,430 --> 00:05:23,770 56 00:05:23,770 --> 00:05:24,850 Can you hear me now? 57 00:05:24,850 --> 00:05:32,200 Yes of that famous classical ballet. 58 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:33,345 Thank you, Alexi. 59 00:05:33,345 --> 00:05:36,420 60 00:05:36,420 --> 00:05:41,163 Like Salem city of moab, not voting Lorenzo. 61 00:05:41,163 --> 00:05:44,240 62 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:46,100 Lorenzo long Ogden city. 63 00:05:46,100 --> 00:05:47,510 Just observing. 64 00:05:47,510 --> 00:05:54,690 Monica Monica O'Malley, Salt Lake City staff. 65 00:05:54,690 --> 00:05:57,875 Not a board member, not voting Gordon. 66 00:05:57,875 --> 00:06:00,890 67 00:06:00,890 --> 00:06:01,490 We're in a minute. 68 00:06:01,490 --> 00:06:03,230 Immigration mature Township council 69 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:05,120 listening and not voting. 70 00:06:05,120 --> 00:06:09,350 Samantha hey, everybody. 71 00:06:09,350 --> 00:06:11,170 Samantha Steele, horse alternate board 72 00:06:11,170 --> 00:06:12,610 member with Cottonwood heights. 73 00:06:12,610 --> 00:06:14,790 I will be voting today. 74 00:06:14,790 --> 00:06:18,880 Zach Zach Garvey. 75 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,840 Summit County not voting. 76 00:06:21,840 --> 00:06:28,730 Dina all right. 77 00:06:28,730 --> 00:06:32,050 Dina blase, was Salt Lake County not voting? 78 00:06:32,050 --> 00:06:32,850 And Sarah. 79 00:06:32,850 --> 00:06:36,810 80 00:06:36,810 --> 00:06:39,570 Sarah Montoya from the Salt Lake City attorney's office here, 81 00:06:39,570 --> 00:06:41,250 listening and not voting. 82 00:06:41,250 --> 00:06:48,940 Mark Holt. Mark Logan just interested observer David. 83 00:06:48,940 --> 00:06:59,590 84 00:06:59,590 --> 00:07:01,965 I see a kid you like, David, but I don't hear you. 85 00:07:01,965 --> 00:07:07,160 86 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:08,380 OK, Eliza. 87 00:07:08,380 --> 00:07:12,760 88 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:16,480 Elisa Martin, Grand County planning and zoning. 89 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:17,420 I'm voting. 90 00:07:17,420 --> 00:07:18,700 Thank you, Elisa. 91 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:19,905 Sam on. 92 00:07:19,905 --> 00:07:23,950 93 00:07:23,950 --> 00:07:26,060 Salt Lake City council staff. 94 00:07:26,060 --> 00:07:27,140 Salmon listening. 95 00:07:27,140 --> 00:07:29,250 Not voting in, Jeremy. 96 00:07:29,250 --> 00:07:39,690 97 00:07:39,690 --> 00:07:43,290 OK well, we have David and Jeremy are on the screen, 98 00:07:43,290 --> 00:07:46,350 but their mics are. 99 00:07:46,350 --> 00:07:47,560 Not working at this time. 100 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:48,580 Hopefully they can hear us. 101 00:07:48,580 --> 00:07:54,510 So we'll move on to continue on to item number 1.2. 102 00:07:54,510 --> 00:07:56,700 Well, at 1.1, the purpose of the overview purpose 103 00:07:56,700 --> 00:08:00,620 is just to review everybody, a couple community. 104 00:08:00,620 --> 00:08:04,680 Groups and going through their issues. 105 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:06,650 And then we're also going to hear from Phil Russell 106 00:08:06,650 --> 00:08:10,080 on some the utility agreement. 107 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:12,660 1.2 the current participation percentages 108 00:08:12,660 --> 00:08:14,550 are in your board packet. 109 00:08:14,550 --> 00:08:15,720 If you have any questions on those, 110 00:08:15,720 --> 00:08:21,730 you can ask Christopher myself to clarify anything. 111 00:08:21,730 --> 00:08:22,790 Business matters. 112 00:08:22,790 --> 00:08:25,510 Item 22.1 I would be looking for a motion 113 00:08:25,510 --> 00:08:33,450 to approve the minutes of January 9 2023. 114 00:08:33,450 --> 00:08:36,980 Mr chair, I move that we approve the January 115 00:08:36,980 --> 00:08:41,010 9 2023 board meeting minutes. 116 00:08:41,010 --> 00:08:42,780 I'll second that. 117 00:08:42,780 --> 00:08:44,700 I have most of the Councilmember coin, the second 118 00:08:44,700 --> 00:08:47,190 from Councilmember Jackson. 119 00:08:47,190 --> 00:08:49,310 Any discussion of this item? 120 00:08:49,310 --> 00:08:50,710 I see no discussion of this item. 121 00:08:50,710 --> 00:08:52,350 I will look for approval. 122 00:08:52,350 --> 00:09:00,110 All in favor of say I, I, I, I opposed Hirono. 123 00:09:00,110 --> 00:09:02,900 No, oppose that motion passes unanimously. 124 00:09:02,900 --> 00:09:06,530 Moving on to item 2.2, the Treasury report. 125 00:09:06,530 --> 00:09:10,680 Mayor silver Zinni is not here today. 126 00:09:10,680 --> 00:09:15,630 And I think we're good. 127 00:09:15,630 --> 00:09:19,150 Mr chair, this is Emily Quintin with Summit County. 128 00:09:19,150 --> 00:09:22,800 And just as the secretary, since I handled the treasurer's 129 00:09:22,800 --> 00:09:25,950 report, I don't think there are any particularly 130 00:09:25,950 --> 00:09:28,170 noteworthy items. 131 00:09:28,170 --> 00:09:31,950 I do believe we're still waiting on just 132 00:09:31,950 --> 00:09:33,700 one final payment to come in. 133 00:09:33,700 --> 00:09:38,550 That is grand county's phase two anchor payment. 134 00:09:38,550 --> 00:09:41,640 Alisa, if there's any support that you need on that 135 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:45,610 or if you need to get the invoice again, let me know. 136 00:09:45,610 --> 00:09:49,440 It's possible that it had gone to former commissioner stock 137 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,460 and that it kind of got lost in the transition. 138 00:09:51,460 --> 00:09:55,920 So I'll just reach out to you, Alisa, directly about that. 139 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:56,740 That would be great. 140 00:09:56,740 --> 00:09:57,480 I appreciate it. 141 00:09:57,480 --> 00:09:59,010 Thank you. 142 00:09:59,010 --> 00:10:01,230 Thank you, Emily. 143 00:10:01,230 --> 00:10:04,150 We're going on to 2.3 reports from the committee. 144 00:10:04,150 --> 00:10:05,580 We'll start with the Communications 145 00:10:05,580 --> 00:10:08,270 Committee and Chris Corley. 146 00:10:08,270 --> 00:10:16,290 147 00:10:16,290 --> 00:10:20,360 And Chris Christopher is here if you need him to. 148 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:21,250 Move to your sides. 149 00:10:21,250 --> 00:10:23,830 150 00:10:23,830 --> 00:10:25,130 Great thanks, Christopher. 151 00:10:25,130 --> 00:10:27,770 And yeah, if you could advance the slides. 152 00:10:27,770 --> 00:10:30,640 And add any necessary additional commentary, 153 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:32,170 that would be great. 154 00:10:32,170 --> 00:10:32,830 Yeah Thanks. 155 00:10:32,830 --> 00:10:33,710 So I'm Christopher. 156 00:10:33,710 --> 00:10:36,640 Chris Colley, rather alternate board 157 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:37,820 member from the town of Alta. 158 00:10:37,820 --> 00:10:39,840 I do help facilitate the Communications Committee. 159 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,720 Our committee membership has not changed. 160 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:44,840 So Yeah. 161 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:46,240 Onto our first slide. 162 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,060 We met twice in January. 163 00:10:49,060 --> 00:10:51,060 Our first meeting was on January 3. 164 00:10:51,060 --> 00:10:53,770 That was our regular monthly meeting. 165 00:10:53,770 --> 00:10:55,810 Meeting was focused mostly on charting 166 00:10:55,810 --> 00:10:59,410 a course forward with our consultant procurement project. 167 00:10:59,410 --> 00:11:02,680 And then we made a plan to produce some monthly newsletter 168 00:11:02,680 --> 00:11:04,900 and more social media content. 169 00:11:04,900 --> 00:11:07,270 On January 19th, we had a great meeting with 170 00:11:07,270 --> 00:11:10,210 environmental nonprofits the Utah chapter 171 00:11:10,210 --> 00:11:14,710 this year club in 02 Utah. 172 00:11:14,710 --> 00:11:16,130 Talk more about that in a moment. 173 00:11:16,130 --> 00:11:18,190 The image on the right side of this slide 174 00:11:18,190 --> 00:11:20,770 is from the kit of communications 175 00:11:20,770 --> 00:11:25,100 content that went out to the board a week ago today. 176 00:11:25,100 --> 00:11:25,705 Next slide. 177 00:11:25,705 --> 00:11:29,780 178 00:11:29,780 --> 00:11:32,900 So the latest on our communications 179 00:11:32,900 --> 00:11:35,870 consultant procurement project. 180 00:11:35,870 --> 00:11:39,110 As a refresher, we developed an RFP 181 00:11:39,110 --> 00:11:43,400 and published it through Mill Creek city in November. 182 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:45,350 When the RFP closed in December, we 183 00:11:45,350 --> 00:11:49,190 had only received one proposal and the committee 184 00:11:49,190 --> 00:11:51,740 declined to accept that proposal. 185 00:11:51,740 --> 00:11:54,050 After the holiday break in January, 186 00:11:54,050 --> 00:11:55,970 we got direction from Mill Creek city that 187 00:11:55,970 --> 00:11:58,940 under Mill Creek procurement rules. 188 00:11:58,940 --> 00:12:01,760 Rather than issue another RFP, we 189 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,430 could hire a communications firm with an active state 190 00:12:04,430 --> 00:12:06,870 of Utah cooperative contract. 191 00:12:06,870 --> 00:12:10,610 And just for those of you who aren't aware, 192 00:12:10,610 --> 00:12:13,200 the so-called state contract is a contract. 193 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:15,710 The state of Utah Division of purchasing 194 00:12:15,710 --> 00:12:19,790 negotiates with vendors to obtain services based on a set 195 00:12:19,790 --> 00:12:23,510 pricing schedule so eligible users can purchase goods 196 00:12:23,510 --> 00:12:25,880 and services through these contracts 197 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,800 in order to streamline the solicitation 198 00:12:27,800 --> 00:12:29,840 and procurement process. 199 00:12:29,840 --> 00:12:32,900 We have begun to engage communications firms that have 200 00:12:32,900 --> 00:12:37,790 active state contracts, and we aspire to bring a proposed 201 00:12:37,790 --> 00:12:41,600 scope of work and fee to the board of directors for approval 202 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:45,720 at the March 6 board meeting. 203 00:12:45,720 --> 00:12:47,820 We're pursuing basically our original scope of work 204 00:12:47,820 --> 00:12:50,400 with an updated timeline. 205 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:51,840 If you go to the next slide, Christopher, 206 00:12:51,840 --> 00:12:55,300 I can run through that scope work a little bit. 207 00:12:55,300 --> 00:12:58,260 So this is basically a slide I've used in the past 208 00:12:58,260 --> 00:13:00,690 to depict the scope of work that we 209 00:13:00,690 --> 00:13:03,540 developed for our original RFP. 210 00:13:03,540 --> 00:13:06,030 The tasks outlined in the scope are 211 00:13:06,030 --> 00:13:08,790 associated basically with our four major program 212 00:13:08,790 --> 00:13:11,040 development milestones. 213 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:14,760 Those are program application, the Public Service Commission 214 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:17,100 decision to approve our application, 215 00:13:17,100 --> 00:13:18,900 then the ordnance adoption milestone 216 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:21,130 and finally program launch. 217 00:13:21,130 --> 00:13:22,800 What's different about this illustration 218 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:25,500 of a communication scope of work is that it 219 00:13:25,500 --> 00:13:27,510 reflects our adjusted timeline. 220 00:13:27,510 --> 00:13:30,720 Basically, we shifted everything forward one quarter. 221 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:32,910 And then one thing we might do this time around 222 00:13:32,910 --> 00:13:35,220 is shift some of the tasks we originally associated 223 00:13:35,220 --> 00:13:37,470 with the program application milestone 224 00:13:37,470 --> 00:13:40,080 and a further down the timeline to the Public Service 225 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:42,730 Commission decision milestone. 226 00:13:42,730 --> 00:13:47,280 So things like social media newsletter content, calendar 227 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,550 brochures and posters and other physical collateral and then 228 00:13:50,550 --> 00:13:52,620 a branding and website refresh. 229 00:13:52,620 --> 00:13:55,350 Those tasks are not required for us to submit a program 230 00:13:55,350 --> 00:13:59,310 application, so we may move those tasks down the timeline 231 00:13:59,310 --> 00:14:02,010 in order to allow a firm that we select 232 00:14:02,010 --> 00:14:05,540 more time to get up to speed. 233 00:14:05,540 --> 00:14:09,380 Next slide, Christopher. 234 00:14:09,380 --> 00:14:13,370 So you with a great meeting on January 19 with 0 2 Utah 235 00:14:13,370 --> 00:14:15,890 and the Utah chapter of the Sierra Club. 236 00:14:15,890 --> 00:14:18,530 As we approach those key program milestones, 237 00:14:18,530 --> 00:14:21,110 these organizations are ramping up efforts 238 00:14:21,110 --> 00:14:24,110 to engage community members and elected officials 239 00:14:24,110 --> 00:14:27,110 in participating communities. 240 00:14:27,110 --> 00:14:29,270 Basically, these words are requesting guidance 241 00:14:29,270 --> 00:14:32,690 on messaging they can share to ensure our constituents have 242 00:14:32,690 --> 00:14:36,710 the best and most accurate information about the program 243 00:14:36,710 --> 00:14:38,390 and some of the steps and program development 244 00:14:38,390 --> 00:14:39,710 we're approaching. 245 00:14:39,710 --> 00:14:41,840 One topic these organizations shared 246 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:44,630 they'd like to be able to provide really good information 247 00:14:44,630 --> 00:14:47,190 about is the utility agreement. 248 00:14:47,190 --> 00:14:50,180 And basically, when that utility agreement 249 00:14:50,180 --> 00:14:52,490 is closer to its final form, we'll 250 00:14:52,490 --> 00:14:56,210 work with the organizations to develop an info sheet 251 00:14:56,210 --> 00:14:59,060 they can use to begin educating, educating constituents 252 00:14:59,060 --> 00:15:02,450 and elected officials about what that utility agreement does 253 00:15:02,450 --> 00:15:03,390 and what it doesn't do. 254 00:15:03,390 --> 00:15:05,360 And I think we'll hear some more about the utility 255 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:07,490 agreement later in the meeting. 256 00:15:07,490 --> 00:15:09,890 We do have another meeting scheduled with 0 2 257 00:15:09,890 --> 00:15:12,170 and the Sierra Club on February 16th, 258 00:15:12,170 --> 00:15:13,970 and I think we expect to have regular meetings 259 00:15:13,970 --> 00:15:16,520 with these organizations going forward 260 00:15:16,520 --> 00:15:19,967 as we move through the steps in our program development. 261 00:15:19,967 --> 00:15:23,170 262 00:15:23,170 --> 00:15:24,050 Next slide. 263 00:15:24,050 --> 00:15:28,060 So just a reminder, we did produce 264 00:15:28,060 --> 00:15:29,800 one of our monthly email newsletters 265 00:15:29,800 --> 00:15:32,470 that went out on January 24. 266 00:15:32,470 --> 00:15:34,940 And then the next day I sent out an e! 267 00:15:34,940 --> 00:15:37,540 Kit of communications materials that all of you 268 00:15:37,540 --> 00:15:40,030 should have in your inbox. 269 00:15:40,030 --> 00:15:42,490 Topics we covered in these materials 270 00:15:42,490 --> 00:15:45,820 include our municipal ordinance finalization 271 00:15:45,820 --> 00:15:47,230 and update on all the great work we 272 00:15:47,230 --> 00:15:49,960 did to adopt low income assistance strategies 273 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:51,760 and then plans for the agency to present 274 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:55,270 at the upcoming Intermountain Sustainability Summit. 275 00:15:55,270 --> 00:15:56,900 If you didn't receive the newsletter 276 00:15:56,900 --> 00:16:00,730 or you haven't seen it yet, you can find it on our website 277 00:16:00,730 --> 00:16:02,440 under subscribe or you can click on one 278 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:03,420 of the links in this slide. 279 00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:07,310 280 00:16:07,310 --> 00:16:13,390 So yet going forward, we plan to continue focusing on hiring 281 00:16:13,390 --> 00:16:14,490 a communications firm. 282 00:16:14,490 --> 00:16:17,130 And once again, we do hope to be able to bring up 283 00:16:17,130 --> 00:16:19,730 proposed scope of work and the proposal 284 00:16:19,730 --> 00:16:25,280 to the board for approval at our regular March 6 board meeting. 285 00:16:25,280 --> 00:16:27,860 We'll work with Utah and the Sierra Club 286 00:16:27,860 --> 00:16:31,280 again on February 16. 287 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:33,500 We'll work on some content specifically regarding 288 00:16:33,500 --> 00:16:35,930 the utility agreement. 289 00:16:35,930 --> 00:16:40,490 We'll keep the monthly newsletter and kit projects 290 00:16:40,490 --> 00:16:43,070 going until we have a communications firm on board 291 00:16:43,070 --> 00:16:45,650 at least to help us prepare that material 292 00:16:45,650 --> 00:16:48,950 or maybe recommend a change in course with those channels. 293 00:16:48,950 --> 00:16:52,270 And then finally, we did change our monthly meeting schedule. 294 00:16:52,270 --> 00:16:53,510 We'll be meeting on the second Friday 295 00:16:53,510 --> 00:16:56,720 of each month at 10 a.m., including this upcoming 296 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Friday, the tenth of February. 297 00:16:59,600 --> 00:17:00,820 That's going to have for you today. 298 00:17:00,820 --> 00:17:04,040 299 00:17:04,040 --> 00:17:05,670 Thank you very much for the update, Chris. 300 00:17:05,670 --> 00:17:08,690 Any questions for chris? 301 00:17:08,690 --> 00:17:11,000 Mr chair, I have a couple of comments 302 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:14,000 for Chris and the Communications Committee. 303 00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,150 I wanted to let you all know that I received a comment 304 00:17:17,150 --> 00:17:20,119 from a resident who had signed up for the newsletter, 305 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,310 complimenting the January newsletter, 306 00:17:22,310 --> 00:17:26,780 and just wanted to express that it was very well written 307 00:17:26,780 --> 00:17:27,920 and clearly communicated. 308 00:17:27,920 --> 00:17:30,470 So I wanted to pass along that compliment. 309 00:17:30,470 --> 00:17:34,080 And then I also just wanted to let everyone know. 310 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:37,100 Chris mentioned that the January newsletter 311 00:17:37,100 --> 00:17:39,530 had promoted the potential inter mountain 312 00:17:39,530 --> 00:17:42,230 Sustainability Summit panel. 313 00:17:42,230 --> 00:17:46,670 We did get accepted to present at the Intermountain 314 00:17:46,670 --> 00:17:49,940 Sustainability Summit on Thursday, March 23rd. 315 00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:52,550 The final agenda has not come out yet, 316 00:17:52,550 --> 00:17:54,710 but once that's available, I will share that 317 00:17:54,710 --> 00:17:57,530 with you, Chris, so that the Communications Committee can 318 00:17:57,530 --> 00:18:00,770 promote the session more specifically 319 00:18:00,770 --> 00:18:04,070 in terms of when it will actually 320 00:18:04,070 --> 00:18:06,480 occur on the conference agenda. 321 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:10,280 Thanks again, Mike. 322 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:11,540 Thank you for that comment. 323 00:18:11,540 --> 00:18:13,945 Any other comments or questions for chris? 324 00:18:13,945 --> 00:18:17,420 325 00:18:17,420 --> 00:18:18,453 CNN all right. 326 00:18:18,453 --> 00:18:19,020 Thank you, Chris. 327 00:18:19,020 --> 00:18:19,520 Well, we will. 328 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:23,570 On to the low income plan committee and Samantha 329 00:18:23,570 --> 00:18:25,350 the seahorse. 330 00:18:25,350 --> 00:18:27,060 Yeah, I was going to see Christopher 331 00:18:27,060 --> 00:18:28,980 if you'd be willing to advance my slides 332 00:18:28,980 --> 00:18:31,830 or if you want to turn over screen sharing to me, 333 00:18:31,830 --> 00:18:32,730 I can do it. 334 00:18:32,730 --> 00:18:33,820 He's got it right now. 335 00:18:33,820 --> 00:18:34,810 He's got the clicker. 336 00:18:34,810 --> 00:18:37,660 Awesome So this is our committee membership. 337 00:18:37,660 --> 00:18:41,550 We haven't had any changes to that membership recently. 338 00:18:41,550 --> 00:18:45,000 We were planning to meet or we are scheduled to meet 339 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:46,300 in our next committee meeting. 340 00:18:46,300 --> 00:18:48,510 One week from today, I will be sending 341 00:18:48,510 --> 00:18:52,050 out an email to the committee with a possible adjustment 342 00:18:52,050 --> 00:18:52,630 to that. 343 00:18:52,630 --> 00:18:56,040 I will be traveling and had hoped to convene that meeting 344 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:57,190 while working remotely. 345 00:18:57,190 --> 00:19:01,690 But some logistics have changed and won't allow me to do that. 346 00:19:01,690 --> 00:19:03,900 So if you're on that committee, keep an eye 347 00:19:03,900 --> 00:19:05,230 out for an email from me. 348 00:19:05,230 --> 00:19:09,460 I'll be reaching out to data for any kind of an alternative, 349 00:19:09,460 --> 00:19:10,700 we can forward one slide. 350 00:19:10,700 --> 00:19:13,940 351 00:19:13,940 --> 00:19:16,610 Great so I wanted to start off with a huge Thank 352 00:19:16,610 --> 00:19:20,390 you to all the board members and support staff who collaborated 353 00:19:20,390 --> 00:19:23,600 on the low income plans for the communities 354 00:19:23,600 --> 00:19:25,760 participating in this program. 355 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,310 I know it was a lot of work to read through those 356 00:19:28,310 --> 00:19:30,260 and to coordinate with your teams 357 00:19:30,260 --> 00:19:32,420 to make sure they reflect the approach 358 00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:34,400 that each community is taking. 359 00:19:34,400 --> 00:19:36,150 And we're just about there. 360 00:19:36,150 --> 00:19:38,660 So as the plans have been completed, 361 00:19:38,660 --> 00:19:42,620 I've just moved them from the general Google Drive folder 362 00:19:42,620 --> 00:19:45,560 that you were all accessing them from to kind 363 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,230 of a completed folder so I can see 364 00:19:48,230 --> 00:19:50,690 which ones still are remaining. 365 00:19:50,690 --> 00:19:52,880 So on that note, if you need to get back 366 00:19:52,880 --> 00:19:56,120 into your plan for any reason, if you need to see it 367 00:19:56,120 --> 00:19:58,340 or what have it changes or anything 368 00:19:58,340 --> 00:20:00,690 trying to limit any additional changes made. 369 00:20:00,690 --> 00:20:04,920 But I'd be happy to send you access to that separate folder. 370 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,750 If you need to get back into your plan, just let me know. 371 00:20:08,750 --> 00:20:10,820 And then just wanted to remind everybody 372 00:20:10,820 --> 00:20:14,810 the next step on these plans, they're going to be included 373 00:20:14,810 --> 00:20:16,410 in our program application. 374 00:20:16,410 --> 00:20:20,990 So as this little graphic I put together tries to convey, 375 00:20:20,990 --> 00:20:24,650 we're going to have 18 or we do have 18 low income plans, 376 00:20:24,650 --> 00:20:28,130 and those are going to go into our overall program application 377 00:20:28,130 --> 00:20:31,400 along with a variety of other documents. 378 00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:32,010 Move forward. 379 00:20:32,010 --> 00:20:33,650 One slide, please. 380 00:20:33,650 --> 00:20:35,990 So now that we've finished the plans 381 00:20:35,990 --> 00:20:38,390 and are kind of just tying up the final loose ends there, 382 00:20:38,390 --> 00:20:41,660 I wanted to start talking about some of the next steps 383 00:20:41,660 --> 00:20:43,490 for actually doing the outreach. 384 00:20:43,490 --> 00:20:48,080 So as you all recall, within the outreach strategies section 385 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:52,040 of your plan, you identified organizations or groups that 386 00:20:52,040 --> 00:20:55,220 serve your community, maybe specifically 387 00:20:55,220 --> 00:20:58,020 serve low income constituents in your community. 388 00:20:58,020 --> 00:21:02,210 And those community organizations on your list 389 00:21:02,210 --> 00:21:05,720 were the ones that you've planned to do outreach 390 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,110 about the program with this outreach doesn't need 391 00:21:09,110 --> 00:21:13,340 to actually take place until after the program application 392 00:21:13,340 --> 00:21:17,180 has been approved because we don't want to be doing outreach 393 00:21:17,180 --> 00:21:19,400 with information that hasn't necessarily 394 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:21,050 been finalized or approved. 395 00:21:21,050 --> 00:21:23,390 We want to make sure it's moving forward in the way 396 00:21:23,390 --> 00:21:25,850 that we expect it to before we start 397 00:21:25,850 --> 00:21:29,340 doing too much content on it. 398 00:21:29,340 --> 00:21:31,850 However, I just wanted to start these conversations now, 399 00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:34,190 so we kind of have a good background 400 00:21:34,190 --> 00:21:35,340 when the time does come. 401 00:21:35,340 --> 00:21:37,910 So as a reminder for the organizations 402 00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:39,950 you've identified, that outreach you're 403 00:21:39,950 --> 00:21:41,330 going to need to conduct with them 404 00:21:41,330 --> 00:21:43,170 will entail these five things. 405 00:21:43,170 --> 00:21:46,550 So the first is an offer to meet with the organization 406 00:21:46,550 --> 00:21:48,990 to just make them aware of the program, 407 00:21:48,990 --> 00:21:50,340 answer questions they have. 408 00:21:50,340 --> 00:21:53,420 This could be a virtual meeting or even a phone call. 409 00:21:53,420 --> 00:21:55,820 The second will be to invite the organization 410 00:21:55,820 --> 00:21:59,570 to a quarterly meeting hosted by the low income plan committee, 411 00:21:59,570 --> 00:22:03,110 just to talk through how things are working with the program 412 00:22:03,110 --> 00:22:05,840 and low income customer membership in it 413 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,410 and kind of run through any concerns they might have. 414 00:22:09,410 --> 00:22:11,390 The third will be just to add a contact 415 00:22:11,390 --> 00:22:13,700 email address for that organization 416 00:22:13,700 --> 00:22:16,700 to our agency listserv. 417 00:22:16,700 --> 00:22:18,380 The fourth will be to provide a printed 418 00:22:18,380 --> 00:22:21,750 poster in English and Spanish to the organization. 419 00:22:21,750 --> 00:22:24,440 So that they can post it in high visibility 420 00:22:24,440 --> 00:22:26,210 areas of their offices where they might 421 00:22:26,210 --> 00:22:28,160 be working with clientele. 422 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,370 These poster files will be provided by the low income plan 423 00:22:31,370 --> 00:22:33,260 committee, hopefully in coordination with 424 00:22:33,260 --> 00:22:34,680 our Communications Committee. 425 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:39,680 So communities aren't having to make these posters unless they 426 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,180 want to make their own. 427 00:22:41,180 --> 00:22:42,620 And then the fifth thing will just 428 00:22:42,620 --> 00:22:45,470 be to provide the organization with kind 429 00:22:45,470 --> 00:22:48,290 of a template informational email 430 00:22:48,290 --> 00:22:53,880 that gives pretty standard aq information for their clients. 431 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,570 So if this organization has a client who reaches out to them 432 00:22:56,570 --> 00:22:58,820 with questions, this informational email 433 00:22:58,820 --> 00:23:00,720 can be a good resource. 434 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,160 And that email content will also be provided with. 435 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,350 The low income band committee and hopefully 436 00:23:06,350 --> 00:23:08,190 the Communications Committee collaborating. 437 00:23:08,190 --> 00:23:11,810 So hopefully with the support from our various committees 438 00:23:11,810 --> 00:23:15,830 and the kind of longer timeline we have to do this outreach, 439 00:23:15,830 --> 00:23:18,500 I hope that this isn't too heavy of a lift, 440 00:23:18,500 --> 00:23:20,120 but I wanted to talk a little bit 441 00:23:20,120 --> 00:23:23,750 about some additional support from the low income 442 00:23:23,750 --> 00:23:24,960 plan committee. 443 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:26,520 So let's move forward. 444 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:27,620 One more slide, please. 445 00:23:27,620 --> 00:23:29,190 Samantha, can I ask a question? 446 00:23:29,190 --> 00:23:31,270 This is Sherri Jackson with Monique. 447 00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:33,320 So, yeah, so looking at the list, 448 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:36,020 I am assuming that there's some overlap 449 00:23:36,020 --> 00:23:39,500 on some of those organizations between multiple cities. 450 00:23:39,500 --> 00:23:41,300 Is there going to be some coordination 451 00:23:41,300 --> 00:23:44,960 to say like Mill Creek will talk with this organization and salt 452 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:46,490 lake, we'll talk to this one so that we're 453 00:23:46,490 --> 00:23:48,990 not all bombarding them with. 454 00:23:48,990 --> 00:23:52,350 With yeah, I actually have a slide coming up on that. 455 00:23:52,350 --> 00:23:53,240 You're way ahead of me. 456 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,860 Thank you. 457 00:23:54,860 --> 00:23:56,850 No worries, because that's a great point to bring up. 458 00:23:56,850 --> 00:23:59,000 OK let's move forward one slide. 459 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,670 So first of all, we're going to be putting together a contact 460 00:24:01,670 --> 00:24:05,810 information appendix so that at the end of these low income 461 00:24:05,810 --> 00:24:08,900 plans, there will be one master appendix that has contact 462 00:24:08,900 --> 00:24:12,170 info for every organization that's been identified, 463 00:24:12,170 --> 00:24:14,940 and that appendix will be given to every community. 464 00:24:14,940 --> 00:24:19,280 So that you have contact info for your organizations 465 00:24:19,280 --> 00:24:23,020 as well as for any others that maybe you need down the road. 466 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:25,340 So that'll be a single resource where you don't have 467 00:24:25,340 --> 00:24:27,320 to be hopefully chasing down contact 468 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,560 information for organizations. 469 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:33,080 OK, next slide. 470 00:24:33,080 --> 00:24:35,120 OK so now getting into the outreach 471 00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,990 overlap, so where you are also and have already started 472 00:24:38,990 --> 00:24:42,890 identifying overlap in various outreach organizations, 473 00:24:42,890 --> 00:24:45,950 just like Councilmember Jackson was mentioning, 474 00:24:45,950 --> 00:24:47,990 there's some natural overlap where 475 00:24:47,990 --> 00:24:50,960 multiple communities may have identified outreach 476 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:52,710 to the same organization. 477 00:24:52,710 --> 00:24:56,450 So to help coordinate with that, the low income plan committee 478 00:24:56,450 --> 00:25:00,560 will notify communities of overlap 479 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:03,440 with other communities in the organizations they've selected 480 00:25:03,440 --> 00:25:07,160 so that those communities can coordinate 481 00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,580 on a single outreach effort. 482 00:25:08,580 --> 00:25:10,940 So the example I gave is it's Salt Lake city, 483 00:25:10,940 --> 00:25:15,080 Creek and Kern's all identified the same organization 484 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:16,640 on their outreach lists. 485 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,820 The committee will notify Salt Lake city, Creek and Kerns, 486 00:25:19,820 --> 00:25:22,460 so that they can coordinate on that single outreach 487 00:25:22,460 --> 00:25:25,800 push instead of three separate outreach pushes. 488 00:25:25,800 --> 00:25:28,610 And I think that will help not only community bandwidth 489 00:25:28,610 --> 00:25:31,010 with doing that outreach, but also will 490 00:25:31,010 --> 00:25:33,740 prevent these organizations from being bombarded 491 00:25:33,740 --> 00:25:36,560 with the same information. 492 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:38,510 And then if we move forward, one more slide 493 00:25:38,510 --> 00:25:42,530 just to kind of further this idea for overlaps that 494 00:25:42,530 --> 00:25:44,960 constitute a majority of communities, 495 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,690 the low income plan committee will just 496 00:25:47,690 --> 00:25:49,380 facilitate the outreach itself. 497 00:25:49,380 --> 00:25:54,000 So for the overlaps that maybe only involve two 498 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:57,440 to three communities, we will just give that information 499 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:58,940 to those communities and they can 500 00:25:58,940 --> 00:26:00,480 facilitate outreach together. 501 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:03,890 But for the overlap where the majority of our communities 502 00:26:03,890 --> 00:26:06,530 want to do outreach with a single group, 503 00:26:06,530 --> 00:26:08,870 we felt like it was most appropriate for the low income 504 00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:10,820 plan committee to just do that outreach 505 00:26:10,820 --> 00:26:12,450 as a single point of contact. 506 00:26:12,450 --> 00:26:17,840 So one example of this was most of our communities 507 00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:20,240 listed the Salvation Army as a group 508 00:26:20,240 --> 00:26:22,100 we want to do outreach with. 509 00:26:22,100 --> 00:26:24,320 And so to just streamline that, we 510 00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:26,660 figured the committee can just can just take that outreach 511 00:26:26,660 --> 00:26:27,360 and handle that. 512 00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:28,640 And this will all be communicated 513 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:34,220 to all of the communities so that you're knowing which ones 514 00:26:34,220 --> 00:26:39,080 on our list are going to be covered by the committee 515 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,000 itself, and then which ones on our list or 516 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,970 may be going to be covered by an adjacent community who's 517 00:26:43,970 --> 00:26:45,890 planning to do the outreach. 518 00:26:45,890 --> 00:26:48,500 Does that answer your question, Councilmember Jackson. 519 00:26:48,500 --> 00:26:49,440 Yes, that does. 520 00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:50,870 Thank you. 521 00:26:50,870 --> 00:26:53,000 OK, perfect. 522 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:55,830 Next slide. 523 00:26:55,830 --> 00:26:59,610 So then just to circle back to the actual outreach, 524 00:26:59,610 --> 00:27:01,800 this doesn't need to take place until after the program 525 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,570 application is approved. 526 00:27:03,570 --> 00:27:09,030 I even kind of recommend waiting to communicate 527 00:27:09,030 --> 00:27:12,717 details about the program just until it's approved. 528 00:27:12,717 --> 00:27:14,550 We want to make sure we're giving the accurate approved 529 00:27:14,550 --> 00:27:15,490 information. 530 00:27:15,490 --> 00:27:19,830 However, if some of the groups or organizations you're 531 00:27:19,830 --> 00:27:22,320 planning to do outreach with are ones you've never worked 532 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,760 with before, I do recommend initiating contact early on, 533 00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:29,340 and I think that's something we could kind of all start on now 534 00:27:29,340 --> 00:27:34,230 if it applies to us, where maybe we just reach out and kind 535 00:27:34,230 --> 00:27:36,690 of let them know that this is coming, that we'll be following 536 00:27:36,690 --> 00:27:39,840 back up with program details once they're approved 537 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,630 and give that contact early on to help 538 00:27:42,630 --> 00:27:45,870 prime the pump for the outreach to take place later on. 539 00:27:45,870 --> 00:27:48,810 So once communities have the appendix we're working on, 540 00:27:48,810 --> 00:27:51,540 that should help where you can decide if you want to start 541 00:27:51,540 --> 00:27:53,580 reaching out now and just kind of having 542 00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:55,890 those initial conversations. 543 00:27:55,890 --> 00:27:58,470 And I think it's always appropriate to give 544 00:27:58,470 --> 00:28:00,540 the high level detail of our program 545 00:28:00,540 --> 00:28:02,780 that we share in these public meetings. 546 00:28:02,780 --> 00:28:05,850 I just would be remiss if we provided specific program 547 00:28:05,850 --> 00:28:07,000 details to somebody. 548 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:08,820 And then through the regulatory process, 549 00:28:08,820 --> 00:28:12,720 those changed and there was confusion. 550 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:15,290 Next slide. 551 00:28:15,290 --> 00:28:18,500 OK yeah, there's the end, so feel free to reach 552 00:28:18,500 --> 00:28:20,420 out if you have any questions. 553 00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:22,610 I'm always happy to set up a meeting with myself 554 00:28:22,610 --> 00:28:25,430 or other willing members from the committee 555 00:28:25,430 --> 00:28:27,920 and just want to say Thanks again to everyone who worked 556 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,230 on those low income plans. 557 00:28:29,230 --> 00:28:34,250 I know it's an imperfect process using virtual platforms 558 00:28:34,250 --> 00:28:37,340 to collaborate, and I just appreciate everyone's grace 559 00:28:37,340 --> 00:28:40,010 and patience and getting onto the Google Drive 560 00:28:40,010 --> 00:28:43,020 and being flexible with how that process worked. 561 00:28:43,020 --> 00:28:45,230 You guys are all great, so does anyone 562 00:28:45,230 --> 00:28:46,240 have any questions for me? 563 00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,130 564 00:28:51,130 --> 00:28:52,460 Thank you very much, Samantha. 565 00:28:52,460 --> 00:28:56,920 Appreciate the work of your committee and yourself on this. 566 00:28:56,920 --> 00:28:59,980 We'll move on to the program design committee 567 00:28:59,980 --> 00:29:00,885 and Christopher Thomas. 568 00:29:00,885 --> 00:29:05,530 569 00:29:05,530 --> 00:29:06,200 Oh, everyone. 570 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,650 Christopher Thomas with Salt Lake City and I 571 00:29:08,650 --> 00:29:11,470 convened the program design committee and 572 00:29:11,470 --> 00:29:13,283 happy to give you some updates. 573 00:29:13,283 --> 00:29:15,920 574 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,010 Let's see if I'm plugged in here. 575 00:29:18,010 --> 00:29:22,100 576 00:29:22,100 --> 00:29:23,780 Thank you, Kurt. 577 00:29:23,780 --> 00:29:25,850 Our program design committee membership has 578 00:29:25,850 --> 00:29:29,120 stayed the same as it has been. 579 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:30,500 But you're welcome to look at this slide 580 00:29:30,500 --> 00:29:33,050 if you've got questions. 581 00:29:33,050 --> 00:29:34,020 Key activities. 582 00:29:34,020 --> 00:29:36,680 The committee met three times in January. 583 00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,380 We did have a small group who met with the Department 584 00:29:39,380 --> 00:29:41,940 of Energy loan Programs Office. 585 00:29:41,940 --> 00:29:44,060 That's a part of the federal government, department 586 00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:47,870 of energy loan Programs Office. 587 00:29:47,870 --> 00:29:52,160 We did host a meeting where we invited municipal attorneys 588 00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:56,030 for the communities who are part of the program design committee 589 00:29:56,030 --> 00:29:59,060 to meet with our outside counsel, Phil Russell, 590 00:29:59,060 --> 00:30:02,510 to discuss a draft of the utility agreement. 591 00:30:02,510 --> 00:30:04,580 So we had provided an initial draft. 592 00:30:04,580 --> 00:30:09,260 We received back red line edits from Rocky Mountain power, 593 00:30:09,260 --> 00:30:11,240 and then we brought in the municipal attorneys 594 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,940 to look at it together and raise additional questions 595 00:30:13,940 --> 00:30:15,230 and comments. 596 00:30:15,230 --> 00:30:17,810 And then finally, we received a data request 597 00:30:17,810 --> 00:30:20,990 from Rocky Mountain Power to prepare budgeting guidance 598 00:30:20,990 --> 00:30:23,300 for noticing costs, which I'll talk 599 00:30:23,300 --> 00:30:27,700 about later in the slide deck. 600 00:30:27,700 --> 00:30:31,180 Here is the program application dashboard. 601 00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:33,100 I like to call it which kind of shows where 602 00:30:33,100 --> 00:30:35,530 we are with each of these. 603 00:30:35,530 --> 00:30:37,870 So on along the left hand side are 604 00:30:37,870 --> 00:30:41,170 all of the specific items that need to be included 605 00:30:41,170 --> 00:30:43,840 in the Program application that goes to the Utah 606 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:45,700 public Service Commission. 607 00:30:45,700 --> 00:30:49,840 And then to the right, you can see kind of our status 608 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,260 with green, meaning we're good, you know, 609 00:30:53,260 --> 00:30:57,550 we've completed it fully or mostly blue, 610 00:30:57,550 --> 00:31:01,030 meaning we're working toward completing it orange meaning 611 00:31:01,030 --> 00:31:02,920 it's more conceptual and red meaning 612 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,520 it hasn't been started yet. 613 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:08,350 So slowly but surely we're turning more of these rows, 614 00:31:08,350 --> 00:31:09,465 green and blue. 615 00:31:09,465 --> 00:31:12,700 616 00:31:12,700 --> 00:31:13,740 but. 617 00:31:13,740 --> 00:31:16,120 Certainly not. 618 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:17,490 We're not there yet. 619 00:31:17,490 --> 00:31:20,140 We do have a meeting scheduled with Rocky Mountain 620 00:31:20,140 --> 00:31:24,700 Power this month to basically do around up of all 621 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:26,680 of the required items where we are with them 622 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,500 and what we need to do to complete them 623 00:31:29,500 --> 00:31:33,460 with our hopeful application submission 624 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:35,220 deadline of the end of March. 625 00:31:35,220 --> 00:31:40,610 626 00:31:40,610 --> 00:31:44,420 OK here are some requests for board 627 00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:47,830 members regarding the utility agreement. 628 00:31:47,830 --> 00:31:51,880 So our current hope is that the program design committee can 629 00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,270 distribute a near-final version of the utility agreement 630 00:31:55,270 --> 00:31:57,966 to board members around February. 631 00:31:57,966 --> 00:32:00,770 632 00:32:00,770 --> 00:32:04,040 As soon as we do that, we would ask for your help 633 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,110 from the board members to please solicit 634 00:32:06,110 --> 00:32:10,980 feedback from your municipal attorney on that draft. 635 00:32:10,980 --> 00:32:11,890 We hope to. 636 00:32:11,890 --> 00:32:15,150 Then the committee then hopes to bring in near-final version 637 00:32:15,150 --> 00:32:19,110 of that utility agreement to the special board meeting that 638 00:32:19,110 --> 00:32:21,430 is scheduled for February 27. 639 00:32:21,430 --> 00:32:25,750 So we would not look to vote on the agreement at the February 640 00:32:25,750 --> 00:32:30,270 27 meeting, more just to look at it together, have 641 00:32:30,270 --> 00:32:33,210 our outside counsel explain it, entertain questions and so 642 00:32:33,210 --> 00:32:37,110 on and so forth, so that then hopefully by our regular board 643 00:32:37,110 --> 00:32:38,940 meeting on March 6th, the board would 644 00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:41,580 be in a position to vote on whether 645 00:32:41,580 --> 00:32:45,030 or not to adopt that utility agreement. 646 00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:46,920 In the meantime, though, and I know this 647 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:50,370 is a bit awkward for some of our communities 648 00:32:50,370 --> 00:32:52,560 because of how they schedule their council 649 00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:53,530 or commission meetings. 650 00:32:53,530 --> 00:32:55,500 But we ask that if you can please 651 00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:58,380 do try to schedule time on your council or commission's 652 00:32:58,380 --> 00:33:03,240 agenda to present the utility agreement for signature 653 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,630 during the month of March after March 6th, 654 00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:09,720 and that so that we can stay on timeline with hopefully being 655 00:33:09,720 --> 00:33:12,030 in a position to submit the program application 656 00:33:12,030 --> 00:33:13,025 by the end of March. 657 00:33:13,025 --> 00:33:15,870 658 00:33:15,870 --> 00:33:19,170 We do hope to bring additional program design issues 659 00:33:19,170 --> 00:33:23,250 to the board for consideration at either our regular meeting 660 00:33:23,250 --> 00:33:27,275 on March 6th or the special meeting on March 27. 661 00:33:27,275 --> 00:33:31,440 662 00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:37,630 OK I was going to present this slide to you with a map. 663 00:33:37,630 --> 00:33:42,550 But I'm not going to present this slide to you with the map. 664 00:33:42,550 --> 00:33:45,890 So the maps have been very complicated. 665 00:33:45,890 --> 00:33:46,990 It's one of those things that you 666 00:33:46,990 --> 00:33:48,350 think is going to be simple. 667 00:33:48,350 --> 00:33:51,250 And then the more you peel back the layers, 668 00:33:51,250 --> 00:33:53,930 the more complicated you realize it is. 669 00:33:53,930 --> 00:33:57,130 And so we I'm going to go through a little bit of why 670 00:33:57,130 --> 00:34:02,170 we're suggesting going back to just a really simple map now, 671 00:34:02,170 --> 00:34:04,540 just showing boundaries. 672 00:34:04,540 --> 00:34:06,670 And here, here's the thinking on it. 673 00:34:06,670 --> 00:34:10,630 So I've been doing some research on this issue of community 674 00:34:10,630 --> 00:34:14,650 jurisdiction and getting good input 675 00:34:14,650 --> 00:34:18,159 from our various communities, which is actually 676 00:34:18,159 --> 00:34:20,570 kind of a nice well, it's a very nice thing about our agency, 677 00:34:20,570 --> 00:34:21,070 right? 678 00:34:21,070 --> 00:34:22,870 We all can get into our little bubbles 679 00:34:22,870 --> 00:34:25,060 with how our community does things. 680 00:34:25,060 --> 00:34:28,540 And then being in this larger agency with many communities, 681 00:34:28,540 --> 00:34:31,210 you realize there's a bigger picture. 682 00:34:31,210 --> 00:34:36,800 Right so anyway, through discovering that bigger picture 683 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,280 and then talking to our outside counsel for Russell, 684 00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:44,199 we're now recommending that our maps only show the boundaries, 685 00:34:44,199 --> 00:34:47,409 not jurisdictional areas, not state 686 00:34:47,409 --> 00:34:51,489 and federal own federal land ownership. 687 00:34:51,489 --> 00:34:54,900 And here's the thinking behind it. 688 00:34:54,900 --> 00:34:58,050 So one is that it turns out that municipal jurisdiction 689 00:34:58,050 --> 00:35:01,390 over state and federal lands is pretty complex. 690 00:35:01,390 --> 00:35:04,300 So in talking through it with our. 691 00:35:04,300 --> 00:35:07,760 With it's an understatement. 692 00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,210 So in talking it through with Sara from Salt Lake City 693 00:35:11,210 --> 00:35:15,260 attorney's office, it sounds like it can really vary 694 00:35:15,260 --> 00:35:17,380 on an issue by issue basis. 695 00:35:17,380 --> 00:35:19,430 So one example that we discussed was 696 00:35:19,430 --> 00:35:23,000 that when it came to an issue of requiring sprinkler heads 697 00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:25,490 for fire suppression in buildings, 698 00:35:25,490 --> 00:35:28,740 a municipal entity had jurisdiction. 699 00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,580 Salt Lake City could require those things in a federal 700 00:35:31,580 --> 00:35:33,420 or a State Building. 701 00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:37,590 However, not so much when it comes to levying taxes. 702 00:35:37,590 --> 00:35:40,230 So you can see jurisdiction kind of changes 703 00:35:40,230 --> 00:35:43,030 depending upon the issue area. 704 00:35:43,030 --> 00:35:46,520 In the case of our program. 705 00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,270 The question is not settled. 706 00:35:48,270 --> 00:35:50,650 Right and it could be a complex legal. 707 00:35:50,650 --> 00:35:54,900 708 00:35:54,900 --> 00:35:58,820 A process to actually settle that question by law. 709 00:35:58,820 --> 00:36:04,690 The other thing that was brought to me by Moab 710 00:36:04,690 --> 00:36:07,570 was that sometimes the jurisdictional issue 711 00:36:07,570 --> 00:36:10,640 can change based upon contractual arrangements. 712 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,440 So it could be that there's a piece of state owned land, 713 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,100 but there can be a contractual agreement that could expand 714 00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:20,980 or restricted jurisdiction, a community's 715 00:36:20,980 --> 00:36:22,380 jurisdiction over that land. 716 00:36:22,380 --> 00:36:25,310 So for all these reasons, it's just a complicated issue. 717 00:36:25,310 --> 00:36:29,590 And so we thought better not to say anything about jurisdiction 718 00:36:29,590 --> 00:36:32,560 specifically and just really stick to the state 719 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:36,160 administrative code, which only says that we must include, 720 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,340 quote, maps depicting the geographic boundaries of 721 00:36:39,340 --> 00:36:41,540 each such eligible community. 722 00:36:41,540 --> 00:36:43,960 So I think we just keep it simple 723 00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:47,890 and and as much as we can just show the boundaries. 724 00:36:47,890 --> 00:36:51,610 And then when it comes to how electric accounts on state 725 00:36:51,610 --> 00:36:55,270 and federal lands inside of our participating communities 726 00:36:55,270 --> 00:36:57,350 will be handled. 727 00:36:57,350 --> 00:37:00,030 The answer is we don't exactly know right now. 728 00:37:00,030 --> 00:37:03,050 But what we've done to try to answer this question 729 00:37:03,050 --> 00:37:07,430 is we've worked with two large electric customers who 730 00:37:07,430 --> 00:37:10,880 are partially on federal and state or state land 731 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:12,470 and partially not. 732 00:37:12,470 --> 00:37:16,130 And so they have gone to the trouble of getting a whole list 733 00:37:16,130 --> 00:37:17,430 of their electric accounts. 734 00:37:17,430 --> 00:37:20,330 They've provided them to pacificorp and basically said, 735 00:37:20,330 --> 00:37:22,540 here's all of our accounts. 736 00:37:22,540 --> 00:37:26,150 How what are our options from participating in this program? 737 00:37:26,150 --> 00:37:30,340 And so we're still awaiting an answer on that. 738 00:37:30,340 --> 00:37:33,640 But nevertheless, I don't think it's that question is one 739 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,930 we can answer with our maps. 740 00:37:35,930 --> 00:37:39,160 So now I know that some communities have certain maps 741 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,320 that they want to include. 742 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,830 I think if they're open to having us generate 743 00:37:44,830 --> 00:37:48,520 just a uniform map for everyone, same style, 744 00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:50,420 just showing the border, that would be great. 745 00:37:50,420 --> 00:37:51,910 If a community feels really strongly 746 00:37:51,910 --> 00:37:54,435 they want to have their own map, I think that's fine also. 747 00:37:54,435 --> 00:37:58,300 748 00:37:58,300 --> 00:38:00,110 OK so that's maps. 749 00:38:00,110 --> 00:38:03,230 Now let's move to opt out noticing costs. 750 00:38:03,230 --> 00:38:07,090 So this is the one cost that was on our radar screen 751 00:38:07,090 --> 00:38:10,130 that we did not budget for as part of the agency. 752 00:38:10,130 --> 00:38:12,940 So this is what we hope will be the largest 753 00:38:12,940 --> 00:38:15,670 cost that our individual communities would need 754 00:38:15,670 --> 00:38:18,790 to appropriate toward this whole effort of the community 755 00:38:18,790 --> 00:38:20,560 renewable energy program. 756 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,680 So state law requires that communities cover 757 00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,890 the cost to mail two opt out notices to customers 758 00:38:26,890 --> 00:38:28,840 within their boundaries. 759 00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:30,160 Again, these are the last costs we 760 00:38:30,160 --> 00:38:31,750 envision participating communities 761 00:38:31,750 --> 00:38:33,290 will need to appropriate. 762 00:38:33,290 --> 00:38:37,720 All future costs should be paid through program rates. 763 00:38:37,720 --> 00:38:39,260 Chair Dugan, Thank you. 764 00:38:39,260 --> 00:38:41,470 Sent a spreadsheet with updated noticing 765 00:38:41,470 --> 00:38:44,560 costs plus a 5% margin. 766 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,360 And the reason we added a 5% margin 767 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,990 is because we don't want to budget too little 768 00:38:49,990 --> 00:38:52,510 and then have a situation where there needs to be 769 00:38:52,510 --> 00:38:56,560 a new appropriation process. 770 00:38:56,560 --> 00:39:00,850 Now you'll notice probably that your opt out, 771 00:39:00,850 --> 00:39:04,030 your communities opt out, noticing estimated cost 772 00:39:04,030 --> 00:39:05,350 went up. 773 00:39:05,350 --> 00:39:08,830 Salt Lake City is definitely did and it seemed to be mainly 774 00:39:08,830 --> 00:39:10,070 for Salt Lake city's case. 775 00:39:10,070 --> 00:39:14,560 We had more customers in 2022 than we did back in 2019, 776 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,460 so that's one reason our cost went up. 777 00:39:16,460 --> 00:39:18,160 But the main reason was because the per 778 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,640 mailer cost increased by about 77% from the 2020 quote. 779 00:39:23,640 --> 00:39:26,110 And I, I have asked Rocky Mountain Power 780 00:39:26,110 --> 00:39:30,880 to why that has that been a across the board 781 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,720 uniform increase for them? 782 00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:35,260 Or is there something specific about our mailer 783 00:39:35,260 --> 00:39:38,990 that made it more susceptible to a cost increase? 784 00:39:38,990 --> 00:39:41,050 And so they're looking into it and they 785 00:39:41,050 --> 00:39:45,060 haven't gotten back to me yet. 786 00:39:45,060 --> 00:39:54,110 So in any case, the yeah, it's a lot in terms of budgeting 787 00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:57,320 purposes for cities and towns, please do 788 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,130 use this opt out notice spreadsheet 789 00:40:01,130 --> 00:40:03,590 as a guide for budgeting for fiscal year 790 00:40:03,590 --> 00:40:07,760 2024 for cities and towns that begins July 1st, 2023, 791 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,470 like Salt Lake City. 792 00:40:09,470 --> 00:40:12,290 For counties some of you may have already 793 00:40:12,290 --> 00:40:14,460 budgeted for fiscal year 2023. 794 00:40:14,460 --> 00:40:16,850 That's the current calendar year. 795 00:40:16,850 --> 00:40:19,940 But if you haven't or you can't for this fiscal year, 796 00:40:19,940 --> 00:40:23,690 please definitely budget for fiscal year 2024, 797 00:40:23,690 --> 00:40:28,350 which begins on January 1 for counties. 798 00:40:28,350 --> 00:40:31,830 And please note that a community only needs to actually pay 799 00:40:31,830 --> 00:40:36,240 for this noticing cost if it passes the final ordinance 800 00:40:36,240 --> 00:40:38,380 to finalize its participation. 801 00:40:38,380 --> 00:40:43,890 So if for whatever reason, our application doesn't get 802 00:40:43,890 --> 00:40:45,810 approved by the Public Service Commission 803 00:40:45,810 --> 00:40:49,140 or it gets approved with changes and nobody likes it 804 00:40:49,140 --> 00:40:51,540 and the community doesn't pass the final ordinance, 805 00:40:51,540 --> 00:40:53,440 those costs are never incurred. 806 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:56,100 It's just that we need to budget for them 807 00:40:56,100 --> 00:40:58,400 now in case we get to that step. 808 00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:03,930 809 00:41:03,930 --> 00:41:05,825 Oh, Kirk, could I get a click, please? 810 00:41:05,825 --> 00:41:09,600 811 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:15,970 Well oh, that's my last slide. 812 00:41:15,970 --> 00:41:17,230 Thank you. 813 00:41:17,230 --> 00:41:18,020 That's my last slide. 814 00:41:18,020 --> 00:41:20,650 Happy to take any questions. 815 00:41:20,650 --> 00:41:21,250 Thank you, Chris. 816 00:41:21,250 --> 00:41:22,640 Any questions for christopher? 817 00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,210 818 00:41:26,210 --> 00:41:27,750 Christopher, I have a question. 819 00:41:27,750 --> 00:41:31,040 This is Emily Quinton with Summit County. 820 00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:34,160 I think well, I would just want to Thank you 821 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,060 for waiting through this maps issue, 822 00:41:38,060 --> 00:41:40,130 because it sounds like it's gone on a lot longer 823 00:41:40,130 --> 00:41:41,450 than you were anticipating. 824 00:41:41,450 --> 00:41:46,910 I'm curious if we have a sense of. 825 00:41:46,910 --> 00:41:52,190 When we will know exactly what the boundaries of the program 826 00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:57,110 are, if that will come as a result of what you kind 827 00:41:57,110 --> 00:42:02,690 of described as having a couple of large electric customers 828 00:42:02,690 --> 00:42:05,337 ask Pacific core about their potential eligibility 829 00:42:05,337 --> 00:42:06,470 or if this is something that would 830 00:42:06,470 --> 00:42:08,670 be decided through the program application. 831 00:42:08,670 --> 00:42:13,640 And just it now occurs to me that the answer on jurisdiction 832 00:42:13,640 --> 00:42:16,850 is obviously then going to define how many of these opt 833 00:42:16,850 --> 00:42:18,210 out notices are going out. 834 00:42:18,210 --> 00:42:21,290 Right so yeah, just kind of curious 835 00:42:21,290 --> 00:42:24,510 what you're anticipating. 836 00:42:24,510 --> 00:42:25,900 It's a great question. 837 00:42:25,900 --> 00:42:27,990 I don't know for sure. 838 00:42:27,990 --> 00:42:30,780 I mean. 839 00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:33,540 I would hope we would have this question answered by the time 840 00:42:33,540 --> 00:42:36,930 that our program application were submitted. 841 00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:42,030 I guess it's possible that it could linger on beyond that. 842 00:42:42,030 --> 00:42:43,740 But yeah, I think we want we're going 843 00:42:43,740 --> 00:42:45,330 to do everything we can to try to answer it 844 00:42:45,330 --> 00:42:47,170 before the program application. 845 00:42:47,170 --> 00:42:50,643 846 00:42:50,643 --> 00:42:51,510 Thank you for the comment. 847 00:42:51,510 --> 00:42:52,140 And questions. 848 00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:53,870 Appreciate that. 849 00:42:53,870 --> 00:42:57,350 See, no further questions for Christopher. 850 00:42:57,350 --> 00:43:00,620 I want to just Thank the committee's 851 00:43:00,620 --> 00:43:05,970 leads on their work and and passion for this program. 852 00:43:05,970 --> 00:43:07,520 So I appreciate that very much. 853 00:43:07,520 --> 00:43:09,710 I'm going to move on since we have Phil Russell, 854 00:43:09,710 --> 00:43:10,890 our outside counsel here. 855 00:43:10,890 --> 00:43:14,120 I'm going to move on to item 2.5 and then come back to item 856 00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,410 2.4 for the public comments. 857 00:43:16,410 --> 00:43:20,000 So we have our outside counsel here 858 00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:22,430 to give us an update on the Public 859 00:43:22,430 --> 00:43:25,340 Service Commission filing and the utility agreement. 860 00:43:25,340 --> 00:43:28,250 And I'm going to turn the time over to Phil Russell 861 00:43:28,250 --> 00:43:30,470 because I saw him join the meeting. 862 00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:34,190 So, Phil, I'm a. 863 00:43:34,190 --> 00:43:35,120 Giving you the time. 864 00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:36,080 I'm here. 865 00:43:36,080 --> 00:43:37,830 Thank you, Phil. 866 00:43:37,830 --> 00:43:40,720 Yeah can you hear me OK? 867 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,970 Yes OK, great. 868 00:43:42,970 --> 00:43:46,150 I actually if the board doesn't mind, 869 00:43:46,150 --> 00:43:49,660 I actually would like to respond to Emily Clinton's question 870 00:43:49,660 --> 00:43:55,660 about when we will know about the borders of the program. 871 00:43:55,660 --> 00:43:59,860 And on some level, the borders of the program 872 00:43:59,860 --> 00:44:02,540 will not be set definitively. 873 00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:06,760 And finally, at the time of the commission ruling, 874 00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:11,020 because the act the act contemplates 875 00:44:11,020 --> 00:44:13,750 that municipalities might annex new areas 876 00:44:13,750 --> 00:44:17,770 into it, which would, of course, change the program boundaries. 877 00:44:17,770 --> 00:44:21,460 But for purposes of what are the program 878 00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:25,120 boundaries at the time that the program is implemented? 879 00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:30,010 And that is something that I think as we've all kind of 880 00:44:30,010 --> 00:44:31,480 found out, those of us who've been kind 881 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:33,730 of track mapping and nobody's done more 882 00:44:33,730 --> 00:44:36,070 work on that than Christopher. 883 00:44:36,070 --> 00:44:40,720 It's a bit of a difficult question to answer. 884 00:44:40,720 --> 00:44:44,050 What I anticipate is that we will submit 885 00:44:44,050 --> 00:44:48,670 the maps in connection in response to the requirement 886 00:44:48,670 --> 00:44:50,680 of the act and the commission rules, 887 00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,770 and that we will go forward as though those 888 00:44:53,770 --> 00:44:57,520 are the program boundaries until we are told otherwise. 889 00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:01,100 And when I say until we were, we are told otherwise. 890 00:45:01,100 --> 00:45:06,130 What I mean is either a customer who 891 00:45:06,130 --> 00:45:09,310 is within those the boundaries of the maps 892 00:45:09,310 --> 00:45:14,740 that we submit doesn't opt out and then challenges 893 00:45:14,740 --> 00:45:18,130 the termination fee that is imposed on them 894 00:45:18,130 --> 00:45:20,020 and then challenges on the ground 895 00:45:20,020 --> 00:45:22,540 that they should never have been included in the program 896 00:45:22,540 --> 00:45:23,207 in the first place. 897 00:45:23,207 --> 00:45:24,340 Maybe that's when we get some sort 898 00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:25,900 of resolution on this issue. 899 00:45:25,900 --> 00:45:28,180 Or the inverse is that somebody who 900 00:45:28,180 --> 00:45:30,430 is in one of those federal lands and thinks 901 00:45:30,430 --> 00:45:33,230 that they should have been able to participate in a program. 902 00:45:33,230 --> 00:45:34,810 But Rocky Mountain Power said no, then 903 00:45:34,810 --> 00:45:36,550 we could have a conflict there. 904 00:45:36,550 --> 00:45:39,250 Otherwise, I just frankly don't know that the commission 905 00:45:39,250 --> 00:45:40,810 is going to address this. 906 00:45:40,810 --> 00:45:43,060 We can raise the issue with the commission, 907 00:45:43,060 --> 00:45:46,360 but it's going to say it's probably not the entity that 908 00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:53,800 is the correct entity to be determining the relative power 909 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:58,540 of a municipality versus the state versus federal government 910 00:45:58,540 --> 00:46:01,660 on those issues on this subject matter. 911 00:46:01,660 --> 00:46:04,000 So so my guess is that this may actually 912 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,310 remain in flux for some period of time, 913 00:46:06,310 --> 00:46:08,500 but I don't think it's going to affect 914 00:46:08,500 --> 00:46:11,660 a great number of parties. 915 00:46:11,660 --> 00:46:15,100 What I would suggest is that each individual community, 916 00:46:15,100 --> 00:46:17,470 to the extent that there are large industrial or commercial 917 00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:19,360 customers that are in question, we 918 00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:21,160 should get those questions answered sooner rather 919 00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:24,610 than later, because that's where it's going to affect 920 00:46:24,610 --> 00:46:28,450 the program the most is if a commercial customer that wants 921 00:46:28,450 --> 00:46:33,100 to participate but isn't noticed because Rocky Mountain Power 922 00:46:33,100 --> 00:46:37,120 thinks they're not in or the inverse where they're 923 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,070 in the program, but then later determined 924 00:46:39,070 --> 00:46:40,310 that they shouldn't have been. 925 00:46:40,310 --> 00:46:41,710 That's when it's going to have the biggest 926 00:46:41,710 --> 00:46:43,630 effect on the program. 927 00:46:43,630 --> 00:46:47,140 So all of that is to say, I don't know that we're 928 00:46:47,140 --> 00:46:50,770 going to get an answer on this soon or even 929 00:46:50,770 --> 00:46:53,770 by the time the application felt as much as we might like 930 00:46:53,770 --> 00:46:58,240 that answer to come then, but it may come over time, 931 00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:01,930 and there are things we can do to address those questions 932 00:47:01,930 --> 00:47:07,780 before they become a big problem for the program 933 00:47:07,780 --> 00:47:10,785 and any questions about any of that. 934 00:47:10,785 --> 00:47:14,930 935 00:47:14,930 --> 00:47:15,630 Healing? none. 936 00:47:15,630 --> 00:47:17,690 I will go to the issues that I've 937 00:47:17,690 --> 00:47:21,200 been asked to address today, one of which 938 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,840 is the utility agreement. 939 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:27,640 Just as a reminder to all the community. 940 00:47:27,640 --> 00:47:30,810 Renewable Energy Act requires the utility agreement 941 00:47:30,810 --> 00:47:34,800 to address several things, one of which 942 00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:39,630 is an agreement by the agency that it will 943 00:47:39,630 --> 00:47:42,870 or by the communities excuse me, that they will make payment 944 00:47:42,870 --> 00:47:46,830 to Rocky Mountain Power for third party expertise that will 945 00:47:46,830 --> 00:47:53,310 be engaged by the Office of consumer services 946 00:47:53,310 --> 00:47:55,620 and the division of public utilities. 947 00:47:55,620 --> 00:47:59,730 We entered into an agreement to that effect back in July 948 00:47:59,730 --> 00:48:02,010 in order to allow the division in the office 949 00:48:02,010 --> 00:48:07,200 to go out and initiate their solicitation processes 950 00:48:07,200 --> 00:48:11,820 for third party consultants during the run up to the filing 951 00:48:11,820 --> 00:48:13,560 of the application. 952 00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,480 Another requirement is that the utility 953 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:19,770 agreement address and payment for the notices 954 00:48:19,770 --> 00:48:22,920 that Christopher was just talking about, 955 00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,170 the utility agreement also has to address 956 00:48:25,170 --> 00:48:26,970 if there are going to be any initially 957 00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:29,050 identified replace assets. 958 00:48:29,050 --> 00:48:31,020 Those are existing assets that we're 959 00:48:31,020 --> 00:48:36,060 going to say we don't want to have providing service 960 00:48:36,060 --> 00:48:39,670 to program participants. 961 00:48:39,670 --> 00:48:41,850 And then finally, it has to the agreement 962 00:48:41,850 --> 00:48:46,200 has to identify what we're going to do with termination 963 00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:50,550 fees that are imposed on customers that don't initially 964 00:48:50,550 --> 00:48:53,880 opt out, but opt out later, but that are not ultimately rolled 965 00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:56,630 back into to program rates. 966 00:48:56,630 --> 00:48:59,520 The idea is that the vast majority of those 967 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,950 will be rolled back in to program rates, 968 00:49:01,950 --> 00:49:03,510 but there are certain circumstances in which 969 00:49:03,510 --> 00:49:05,050 that might not be possible. 970 00:49:05,050 --> 00:49:08,970 And so we need to address that in the utility agreement. 971 00:49:08,970 --> 00:49:12,090 We sent a draft of the utility agreement 972 00:49:12,090 --> 00:49:15,570 to Rocky Mountain Power back in October, 973 00:49:15,570 --> 00:49:17,880 and then for various reasons, it took them a little while 974 00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:18,710 to get it back to us. 975 00:49:18,710 --> 00:49:21,420 We didn't get it back until mid-january. 976 00:49:21,420 --> 00:49:23,820 As Christopher mentioned, we had a meeting 977 00:49:23,820 --> 00:49:27,913 with the municipal attorneys last week. 978 00:49:27,913 --> 00:49:29,080 Part of the reason for that meeting 979 00:49:29,080 --> 00:49:33,430 was that many of the edits that we got back from Rocky Mountain 980 00:49:33,430 --> 00:49:36,670 Power addressed an issue that I needed some input 981 00:49:36,670 --> 00:49:38,530 from the municipal attorneys on, and that 982 00:49:38,530 --> 00:49:41,380 is that those edits really kind of addressed 983 00:49:41,380 --> 00:49:44,440 the nature of the agency itself and its relationship 984 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:45,680 with the communities. 985 00:49:45,680 --> 00:49:49,360 What role does the agency play going forward? 986 00:49:49,360 --> 00:49:53,020 Where, when and how can the agency stand in on behalf 987 00:49:53,020 --> 00:49:53,780 of the communities? 988 00:49:53,780 --> 00:49:56,890 And so I really needed some of their expertise 989 00:49:56,890 --> 00:49:58,130 to address those issues. 990 00:49:58,130 --> 00:50:00,100 And I thought we had a really good conversation about it. 991 00:50:00,100 --> 00:50:05,140 And I'm awaiting some edits from the municipal attorneys 992 00:50:05,140 --> 00:50:07,870 on the red line that I sort of circulated internally. 993 00:50:07,870 --> 00:50:11,950 And so I anticipate having some comments back sometime 994 00:50:11,950 --> 00:50:16,090 next week where I can then turn a draft back over 995 00:50:16,090 --> 00:50:19,300 to Rocky Mountain Power and we can stay within that the sort 996 00:50:19,300 --> 00:50:24,940 of schedule that Christopher outlined in providing edits 997 00:50:24,940 --> 00:50:28,500 to the various communities. 998 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:32,430 And do we have any questions on the utility agreement 999 00:50:32,430 --> 00:50:34,385 as it stands and what the process has been? 1000 00:50:34,385 --> 00:50:38,470 1001 00:50:38,470 --> 00:50:39,740 This is Kayla. 1002 00:50:39,740 --> 00:50:42,830 I was a little slow on the last topic. 1003 00:50:42,830 --> 00:50:43,430 The boundaries. 1004 00:50:43,430 --> 00:50:46,470 Could I just ask a question about that? 1005 00:50:46,470 --> 00:50:48,190 Oh, sure. 1006 00:50:48,190 --> 00:50:57,270 So if we have this federal properties within the boundary 1007 00:50:57,270 --> 00:50:59,280 and they might be interested in participating, 1008 00:50:59,280 --> 00:51:03,120 do you think it would be useful to initiate contact with them 1009 00:51:03,120 --> 00:51:06,500 about the program now or wait? 1010 00:51:06,500 --> 00:51:09,140 I would do that now to the extent that, you know, 1011 00:51:09,140 --> 00:51:11,840 you have somebody who wants to participate. 1012 00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:14,660 I would do that as soon as you can. 1013 00:51:14,660 --> 00:51:19,190 And the reason I say that is the sooner we can have folks who 1014 00:51:19,190 --> 00:51:22,550 were there some question raising the issue, I think the quicker 1015 00:51:22,550 --> 00:51:25,190 we can get an answer about whether they 1016 00:51:25,190 --> 00:51:27,080 are able to participate or not. 1017 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,600 And as I understand it, this is well outside 1018 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:30,780 of my area of expertise. 1019 00:51:30,780 --> 00:51:33,740 As I understand it, whether that customer is going 1020 00:51:33,740 --> 00:51:35,570 to be able to participate will turn 1021 00:51:35,570 --> 00:51:41,270 on a question of what effect the ordinance has on that property. 1022 00:51:41,270 --> 00:51:44,330 And that is an area that is well, 1023 00:51:44,330 --> 00:51:46,040 I say, well outside of my area of expertise, 1024 00:51:46,040 --> 00:51:50,960 but I think it can get on the right desk sooner if we raise 1025 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,320 the issue now, rather than waiting until either they don't 1026 00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:56,960 get a notice or they do get a notice and want to participate 1027 00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:58,690 but are told they can't or something. 1028 00:51:58,690 --> 00:52:02,030 So so my recommendation to you and to anybody else that 1029 00:52:02,030 --> 00:52:04,370 knows of those types of customers 1030 00:52:04,370 --> 00:52:06,540 is let's address it with them now. 1031 00:52:06,540 --> 00:52:09,080 And then we can try to get that answer as to that customer 1032 00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,240 sooner rather than later. 1033 00:52:11,240 --> 00:52:12,470 Great Thank you. 1034 00:52:12,470 --> 00:52:13,140 Yeah, sure. 1035 00:52:13,140 --> 00:52:16,850 And just to this issue could come up 1036 00:52:16,850 --> 00:52:19,220 in front of the commission during the course 1037 00:52:19,220 --> 00:52:23,270 of the commission's docket on the application. 1038 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:25,370 My strong suspicion is that the commission is not 1039 00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:28,640 going to want to weigh in on those issues with respect 1040 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:31,250 to each and every instance of a community that 1041 00:52:31,250 --> 00:52:32,940 has federal property or state property. 1042 00:52:32,940 --> 00:52:34,730 Because, as Christopher was mentioning, 1043 00:52:34,730 --> 00:52:37,070 the rules are different within each community 1044 00:52:37,070 --> 00:52:38,690 and on each subject matter is just not 1045 00:52:38,690 --> 00:52:40,250 going to be something, in my view, 1046 00:52:40,250 --> 00:52:41,850 that the commission is going to want to address. 1047 00:52:41,850 --> 00:52:46,520 But to the extent that we can address it on a addressed 1048 00:52:46,520 --> 00:52:49,130 those specific instances when we know that they arise, 1049 00:52:49,130 --> 00:52:50,930 the sooner we can get answers with respect 1050 00:52:50,930 --> 00:52:51,720 to those customers. 1051 00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:54,060 So that would be my preference. 1052 00:52:54,060 --> 00:52:57,410 1053 00:52:57,410 --> 00:52:59,850 Any other questions about the boundaries, 1054 00:52:59,850 --> 00:53:01,556 or the utility agreement? 1055 00:53:01,556 --> 00:53:07,620 1056 00:53:07,620 --> 00:53:08,610 Looks like no. 1057 00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:13,110 I was also asked to appear and kind of discuss 1058 00:53:13,110 --> 00:53:18,060 what the commission proceedings will be like 1059 00:53:18,060 --> 00:53:21,430 once the application is filed. 1060 00:53:21,430 --> 00:53:23,110 It's something I'm happy to do. 1061 00:53:23,110 --> 00:53:24,900 There's some bit of guesswork into what 1062 00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:27,120 that schedule will be like. 1063 00:53:27,120 --> 00:53:29,640 I noticed we have one member of the Division of 1064 00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,870 public utilities on Bob Davis. 1065 00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:32,860 Hi, Bob. 1066 00:53:32,860 --> 00:53:35,760 As Bob will tell you, the schedules 1067 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,500 for commission dockets are kind of a negotiated issue 1068 00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:43,980 at the outset of each docket, unless there is 1069 00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:47,070 some commission rule or statute that 1070 00:53:47,070 --> 00:53:49,960 requires a specific schedule. 1071 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:54,330 So here's generally speaking, what I expect the response 1072 00:53:54,330 --> 00:53:56,880 to the application to look like in the commission proceedings 1073 00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:59,730 to look like once the application is filed, 1074 00:53:59,730 --> 00:54:04,590 I expect the commission to file a public notice, 1075 00:54:04,590 --> 00:54:07,560 giving notice to the general public 1076 00:54:07,560 --> 00:54:10,530 of the filing of the application and setting 1077 00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:11,830 a scheduling conference. 1078 00:54:11,830 --> 00:54:13,860 That's scheduling conference that notice 1079 00:54:13,860 --> 00:54:17,230 will go out within a couple of days of the filing. 1080 00:54:17,230 --> 00:54:18,990 The scheduling conference will probably 1081 00:54:18,990 --> 00:54:22,470 be set for a week or two later. 1082 00:54:22,470 --> 00:54:25,230 And the idea is that for all parties that 1083 00:54:25,230 --> 00:54:28,110 want to be associated with the docket, 1084 00:54:28,110 --> 00:54:30,960 for all parties that want to have input into the docket, 1085 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,990 they should come to the scheduling conference 1086 00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:35,560 to address the schedule. 1087 00:54:35,560 --> 00:54:38,160 Typically what happens is we all generally 1088 00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:39,780 know who the parties are that will 1089 00:54:39,780 --> 00:54:42,070 be interested for our purposes. 1090 00:54:42,070 --> 00:54:43,930 We know it will be Rocky Mountain Power. 1091 00:54:43,930 --> 00:54:45,900 We know it will be the division in the office, 1092 00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:49,200 in each of the communities that intend to participate 1093 00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:53,590 or that are currently eligible communities and the agency. 1094 00:54:53,590 --> 00:54:55,450 There may be others that want to participate as well. 1095 00:54:55,450 --> 00:54:58,110 I expect there will be in the lead 1096 00:54:58,110 --> 00:54:59,440 up to that scheduling conference. 1097 00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:03,390 That will probably be an email discussion 1098 00:55:03,390 --> 00:55:05,850 about what the proper schedule will look like. 1099 00:55:05,850 --> 00:55:08,730 I anticipate that what that will do 1100 00:55:08,730 --> 00:55:12,300 is that the company probably will file testimony 1101 00:55:12,300 --> 00:55:14,430 in connection with this application, 1102 00:55:14,430 --> 00:55:16,860 testimony that supports commission 1103 00:55:16,860 --> 00:55:18,660 approval of the application. 1104 00:55:18,660 --> 00:55:22,770 Then what the schedule will do is identify deadlines 1105 00:55:22,770 --> 00:55:26,070 for other parties to file testimony in response 1106 00:55:26,070 --> 00:55:27,900 to the application and in response 1107 00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:31,860 to the company's testimony and support. 1108 00:55:31,860 --> 00:55:37,110 That deadline will be anywhere from a few weeks away 1109 00:55:37,110 --> 00:55:39,420 to a couple of months away, kind of depending on how much time 1110 00:55:39,420 --> 00:55:42,270 everybody feels like they need. 1111 00:55:42,270 --> 00:55:47,190 And then there's going to be two other rounds of testimony. 1112 00:55:47,190 --> 00:55:50,640 There will be rebuttal testimony and then rebuttal 1113 00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:54,300 testimony in each round response to the testimony in the round 1114 00:55:54,300 --> 00:55:55,170 before it. 1115 00:55:55,170 --> 00:55:58,470 And then the commission will set as part of the scheduling 1116 00:55:58,470 --> 00:56:02,490 conference, we'll set a hearing several months out, giving time 1117 00:56:02,490 --> 00:56:05,100 for all of that testimony to occur 1118 00:56:05,100 --> 00:56:07,740 and for parties to conduct discovery, et cetera. 1119 00:56:07,740 --> 00:56:12,780 One other item that I expect in to address in that scheduling 1120 00:56:12,780 --> 00:56:16,980 conference is sometimes in dockets before the commission, 1121 00:56:16,980 --> 00:56:20,130 we will have what are called technical conferences where 1122 00:56:20,130 --> 00:56:25,620 if there's an issue or a set of issues on which it would be 1123 00:56:25,620 --> 00:56:27,750 useful for everybody to just get together 1124 00:56:27,750 --> 00:56:29,790 in the same room, either virtually or in person 1125 00:56:29,790 --> 00:56:33,300 or some mix of the both with the folks from the commission, 1126 00:56:33,300 --> 00:56:36,030 with the commissioners themselves to address part 1127 00:56:36,030 --> 00:56:38,640 of an application we hold what's we schedule what's 1128 00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:40,240 called a technical conference. 1129 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:42,030 It really is one of the few times 1130 00:56:42,030 --> 00:56:45,060 where you have the opportunity to address 1131 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:46,500 the commission directly. 1132 00:56:46,500 --> 00:56:48,660 I anticipate that we will have one 1133 00:56:48,660 --> 00:56:50,950 or more technical conferences in this case. 1134 00:56:50,950 --> 00:56:54,870 Just that's just my view of how this thing is going to go 1135 00:56:54,870 --> 00:56:56,640 just because it is so new. 1136 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,290 So I would anticipate that we have 1137 00:56:58,290 --> 00:57:00,090 one or two technical conferences where we 1138 00:57:00,090 --> 00:57:01,670 can go over to the commission. 1139 00:57:01,670 --> 00:57:03,570 My guess is there will be a phone line for people to call 1140 00:57:03,570 --> 00:57:06,930 in and the company or the communities 1141 00:57:06,930 --> 00:57:08,700 or a combination of the two will be 1142 00:57:08,700 --> 00:57:10,890 asked to give a presentation about some aspect 1143 00:57:10,890 --> 00:57:13,600 of the application. 1144 00:57:13,600 --> 00:57:15,840 There will be any of the stakeholders 1145 00:57:15,840 --> 00:57:18,480 that, who want to participate in the docket 1146 00:57:18,480 --> 00:57:21,630 and the commissioners, one or more of the commissioners 1147 00:57:21,630 --> 00:57:23,450 might attend that as well. 1148 00:57:23,450 --> 00:57:25,830 So there can be this sort of opportunity for everybody 1149 00:57:25,830 --> 00:57:27,010 to get on the same page. 1150 00:57:27,010 --> 00:57:29,730 I think it does facilitate better 1151 00:57:29,730 --> 00:57:32,440 questions during the docket. 1152 00:57:32,440 --> 00:57:35,280 And if people have questions, sometimes 1153 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,610 it's more general questions. 1154 00:57:36,610 --> 00:57:39,300 You can get past that point in a technical conference 1155 00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:40,620 where people can start asking more 1156 00:57:40,620 --> 00:57:42,690 specific questions later on. 1157 00:57:42,690 --> 00:57:47,940 I think it's a really good way for us 1158 00:57:47,940 --> 00:57:52,210 to advance the ball on getting people to understand what 1159 00:57:52,210 --> 00:57:54,870 the application is all about and kind 1160 00:57:54,870 --> 00:57:58,380 of where disputes might arise. 1161 00:57:58,380 --> 00:58:00,570 So I would anticipate that those would be included 1162 00:58:00,570 --> 00:58:02,580 as part of the schedule. 1163 00:58:02,580 --> 00:58:04,680 Each of the communities, just to make this clear, 1164 00:58:04,680 --> 00:58:06,840 as is a part of the act and is a part of the. 1165 00:58:06,840 --> 00:58:08,250 Mission rules. 1166 00:58:08,250 --> 00:58:11,280 Each of the communities is automatically made a party 1167 00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,940 to the docket, and each of the communities 1168 00:58:14,940 --> 00:58:19,350 will be expected to respond to discovery requests 1169 00:58:19,350 --> 00:58:21,960 as part of that docket, if there are any discovery. 1170 00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:24,690 I imagine that most of those discovery requests are already 1171 00:58:24,690 --> 00:58:28,260 will be directed at the agency, and the agency will then 1172 00:58:28,260 --> 00:58:30,460 Dole them out to the parties. 1173 00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:34,060 But I guess that's up to the party who is seeking discovery. 1174 00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:36,180 In any event, I wanted to put that on everybody's radar 1175 00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:38,460 so that they're not surprised if during the course 1176 00:58:38,460 --> 00:58:42,450 of the commission proceedings there is some discovery 1177 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:43,780 aimed at the communities. 1178 00:58:43,780 --> 00:58:45,510 My guess is that most of the discovery 1179 00:58:45,510 --> 00:58:49,860 will be aimed at the utility because they are 1180 00:58:49,860 --> 00:58:54,000 the party with most of the information and also the party 1181 00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,510 that is filing the application. 1182 00:58:55,510 --> 00:58:57,640 So that's my expectation. 1183 00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:02,280 But there may be some question about participation 1184 00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,560 in some community or something. 1185 00:59:04,560 --> 00:59:06,550 Then that's sort of what I expect. 1186 00:59:06,550 --> 00:59:08,220 I can't really give you a great kind 1187 00:59:08,220 --> 00:59:10,800 of expectation about what the schedule is going to look like. 1188 00:59:10,800 --> 00:59:14,370 Other than that, that's kind of how the process will go. 1189 00:59:14,370 --> 00:59:16,170 Obviously, on behalf of the communities, 1190 00:59:16,170 --> 00:59:18,390 we're going to be seeking a hearing 1191 00:59:18,390 --> 00:59:21,790 date, an end date to that proceeding as early as we can. 1192 00:59:21,790 --> 00:59:23,910 But we do want to make sure that we give all 1193 00:59:23,910 --> 00:59:26,190 of the other parties, the division, the office, 1194 00:59:26,190 --> 00:59:28,740 other stakeholders, enough time to adequately review the 1195 00:59:28,740 --> 00:59:31,170 application and respond to it. 1196 00:59:31,170 --> 00:59:34,050 So my guess is they're going to want a fair bit of time 1197 00:59:34,050 --> 00:59:34,630 to do that. 1198 00:59:34,630 --> 00:59:37,650 So so that's something that will work out 1199 00:59:37,650 --> 00:59:40,250 once the application is filed. 1200 00:59:40,250 --> 00:59:41,960 And with that, I'll open it up to any questions, 1201 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:44,593 if folks have any, about the commission process 1202 00:59:44,593 --> 00:59:46,460 or if anybody has thought of questions about the utility 1203 00:59:46,460 --> 00:59:49,970 agreement in the interim. 1204 00:59:49,970 --> 00:59:53,200 Thank you very much, Phil, for that. 1205 00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:56,820 Briefing on matter, Kaitlyn. 1206 00:59:56,820 --> 00:59:58,470 Thank you. 1207 00:59:58,470 --> 01:00:02,220 So there's a public hearing as well, right, 1208 01:00:02,220 --> 01:00:04,650 when just anyone can comment. 1209 01:00:04,650 --> 01:00:06,150 Is that correct? 1210 01:00:06,150 --> 01:00:09,930 There often are public comment periods 1211 01:00:09,930 --> 01:00:13,710 either identified in the schedule 1212 01:00:13,710 --> 01:00:16,570 or there can be a public hearing. 1213 01:00:16,570 --> 01:00:18,070 Typically, we only see public hearings 1214 01:00:18,070 --> 01:00:19,620 where people can come in to the commission 1215 01:00:19,620 --> 01:00:21,630 and make some statement. 1216 01:00:21,630 --> 01:00:25,200 Those are something we often see in rape cases. 1217 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,460 We we could set one here. 1218 01:00:27,460 --> 01:00:32,880 If there's an interest in having the public come in and address 1219 01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:36,420 the commission directly, rather than through representatives 1220 01:00:36,420 --> 01:00:38,580 of the communities or the agency or whomever, 1221 01:00:38,580 --> 01:00:41,520 we could ask the commission to include a public hearing. 1222 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,220 I don't know that the commission would on its own 1223 01:00:44,220 --> 01:00:45,640 set one in this proceeding. 1224 01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:51,050 If there's an interest in having that, I'm sure we could ask. 1225 01:00:51,050 --> 01:00:55,070 OK my concern that led to the question 1226 01:00:55,070 --> 01:00:57,980 was that I was more interested in whether or not 1227 01:00:57,980 --> 01:01:01,310 the agency and our representatives 1228 01:01:01,310 --> 01:01:05,360 would be prepared to respond to public input 1229 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,440 if it was negative. 1230 01:01:06,440 --> 01:01:10,970 So if there's not a public hearing component, 1231 01:01:10,970 --> 01:01:14,030 I'd be inclined to think that was for the best. 1232 01:01:14,030 --> 01:01:19,580 Well, as because the communities each individually in the agency 1233 01:01:19,580 --> 01:01:21,500 will be parties, we would have an opportunity 1234 01:01:21,500 --> 01:01:24,560 to respond to whatever is placed before the Commission. 1235 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,070 In those public hearings. 1236 01:01:26,070 --> 01:01:28,070 For instance, each of those parties 1237 01:01:28,070 --> 01:01:31,490 could attend the public hearing and respond if there's 1238 01:01:31,490 --> 01:01:34,250 something that's kind of depending on the format, 1239 01:01:34,250 --> 01:01:38,390 but we'll be there throughout to address whatever issues are 1240 01:01:38,390 --> 01:01:41,510 raised, whether by a party to the proceeding 1241 01:01:41,510 --> 01:01:43,190 or by the general public. 1242 01:01:43,190 --> 01:01:46,460 As I said, kind of going back, unless there's 1243 01:01:46,460 --> 01:01:49,220 some request for a public hearing 1244 01:01:49,220 --> 01:01:51,320 or some desire by the commission to hear 1245 01:01:51,320 --> 01:01:52,520 directly from the public on this, 1246 01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,200 I don't expect there to be one. 1247 01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:56,850 There always is in connection with rate cases. 1248 01:01:56,850 --> 01:01:59,210 I don't know whether that's a statutory rule 1249 01:01:59,210 --> 01:02:01,040 or whether it's just practice that the commission has 1250 01:02:01,040 --> 01:02:01,620 adopted. 1251 01:02:01,620 --> 01:02:04,760 But there's always some sort of public hearing for those, 1252 01:02:04,760 --> 01:02:08,970 but very rarely for any other type of docket. 1253 01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:10,530 OK Thank you. 1254 01:02:10,530 --> 01:02:14,680 Yep I have a question. 1255 01:02:14,680 --> 01:02:16,590 This is Emily Quinton. 1256 01:02:16,590 --> 01:02:20,760 Phil, you just described, I think obviously 1257 01:02:20,760 --> 01:02:24,690 a written components like the application and the testimony 1258 01:02:24,690 --> 01:02:27,030 that gets filed and then a couple 1259 01:02:27,030 --> 01:02:31,110 of conferences or meetings, the schedule conference 1260 01:02:31,110 --> 01:02:33,030 and the technical conference are all 1261 01:02:33,030 --> 01:02:40,180 of these both written and meetings in the public realm. 1262 01:02:40,180 --> 01:02:42,000 Yes OK. 1263 01:02:42,000 --> 01:02:43,360 Thank you. 1264 01:02:43,360 --> 01:02:46,390 Yeah so so just to expound on that a little bit, 1265 01:02:46,390 --> 01:02:50,770 all of those written filings so that I 1266 01:02:50,770 --> 01:02:53,650 identified several deadlines for testimony 1267 01:02:53,650 --> 01:02:55,670 in a commission proceeding. 1268 01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:59,410 The witnesses who intend to testify at the hearing 1269 01:02:59,410 --> 01:03:03,580 will pre file written testimony with the commission, 1270 01:03:03,580 --> 01:03:07,770 and then at the hearing they adopt all of that testimony. 1271 01:03:07,770 --> 01:03:11,320 It shortens the hearing pretty considerably versus everybody 1272 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,280 going and saying all that stuff on the record. 1273 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:15,400 But it also gives an opportunity for folks 1274 01:03:15,400 --> 01:03:18,280 to kind of prepare cross-examination questions, 1275 01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,080 which is usually what you get at a commission hearing. 1276 01:03:21,080 --> 01:03:24,070 The witness who has written direct in rebuttal and rebuttal 1277 01:03:24,070 --> 01:03:26,290 testimony will get up, adopt all that testimony, 1278 01:03:26,290 --> 01:03:28,900 and then they'll be subject to cross-examination or questions 1279 01:03:28,900 --> 01:03:30,190 by the commissioners. 1280 01:03:30,190 --> 01:03:34,370 All of that is are open to the public. 1281 01:03:34,370 --> 01:03:38,410 The commission docket here will be open to the public 1282 01:03:38,410 --> 01:03:38,930 and viewable. 1283 01:03:38,930 --> 01:03:43,690 They've got a the commission's website will attach all 1284 01:03:43,690 --> 01:03:48,430 of the documents that are filed in the case other 1285 01:03:48,430 --> 01:03:50,900 than those that are marked as confidential. 1286 01:03:50,900 --> 01:03:54,850 So if there are documents or testimony that are identified 1287 01:03:54,850 --> 01:03:57,370 as being confidential, those will not 1288 01:03:57,370 --> 01:03:59,350 be available to the public if there 1289 01:03:59,350 --> 01:04:04,000 is a portion of the hearing or a technical conference 1290 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:08,590 that relies on or discusses that confidential information that 1291 01:04:08,590 --> 01:04:10,220 will be closed to the public. 1292 01:04:10,220 --> 01:04:12,790 But otherwise, everything here will 1293 01:04:12,790 --> 01:04:16,870 be open to the public, which you can go to the commission 1294 01:04:16,870 --> 01:04:19,240 website to get or if it's at the hearing 1295 01:04:19,240 --> 01:04:21,430 or a technical conference, you can dial in 1296 01:04:21,430 --> 01:04:23,560 or I think even the technical conferences 1297 01:04:23,560 --> 01:04:24,970 and definitely the hearing there's 1298 01:04:24,970 --> 01:04:28,690 the commission has a YouTube channel 1299 01:04:28,690 --> 01:04:32,600 where you can just stream it online as it's going on. 1300 01:04:32,600 --> 01:04:35,350 1301 01:04:35,350 --> 01:04:37,060 One more question, family. 1302 01:04:37,060 --> 01:04:43,250 I have another question that's also just kind of a request. 1303 01:04:43,250 --> 01:04:48,710 I remember that when the program design committee formed almost 1304 01:04:48,710 --> 01:04:50,900 a year and a half ago, there was definitely a period of time 1305 01:04:50,900 --> 01:04:54,800 where we just needed to get familiar with the terminology 1306 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:55,770 in this space. 1307 01:04:55,770 --> 01:05:00,620 And it feels to me like as we gear up for the program 1308 01:05:00,620 --> 01:05:02,870 application to get submitted and then 1309 01:05:02,870 --> 01:05:05,540 be in the Public Service Commission process, 1310 01:05:05,540 --> 01:05:07,110 there's a new set of terminology. 1311 01:05:07,110 --> 01:05:09,650 So I guess my question is, if folks know 1312 01:05:09,650 --> 01:05:12,800 of any existing resources guides, 1313 01:05:12,800 --> 01:05:14,450 I know, you know, even when you're 1314 01:05:14,450 --> 01:05:16,670 on the Utah legislature site, you can find 1315 01:05:16,670 --> 01:05:18,330 some definitions of key terms. 1316 01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:20,780 If there's something like that exists 1317 01:05:20,780 --> 01:05:22,830 for the Utah public service commission, that'd be great. 1318 01:05:22,830 --> 01:05:25,820 I also will note that I know there's 1319 01:05:25,820 --> 01:05:29,060 a national organization, the regulatory assistance project, 1320 01:05:29,060 --> 01:05:34,310 who aims to sort of teach folks about these various processes 1321 01:05:34,310 --> 01:05:35,550 that might have some resources. 1322 01:05:35,550 --> 01:05:37,160 So I'll poke around that website, too, 1323 01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:42,420 but I know a lot of this is new to me and I'm not the only one. 1324 01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:45,140 So to the extent that we can share some resources, 1325 01:05:45,140 --> 01:05:46,470 that'd be much appreciated. 1326 01:05:46,470 --> 01:05:52,370 Thanks Thank you, Emily. 1327 01:05:52,370 --> 01:05:54,280 Any other questions for phil? 1328 01:05:54,280 --> 01:05:57,690 1329 01:05:57,690 --> 01:05:58,600 All right. 1330 01:05:58,600 --> 01:05:59,920 Appreciate that very much, Phil. 1331 01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:01,810 Thank you very much. 1332 01:06:01,810 --> 01:06:02,790 Thank you all. 1333 01:06:02,790 --> 01:06:05,520 K board will be moving on to item number 1334 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:08,490 2.4, which is public comment period. 1335 01:06:08,490 --> 01:06:10,680 And our procedure and our policy on this 1336 01:06:10,680 --> 01:06:12,990 is that the purpose of the public comment 1337 01:06:12,990 --> 01:06:16,800 is to allow citizens to address items on the agenda. 1338 01:06:16,800 --> 01:06:21,000 Citizens can address the board with a written statement, 1339 01:06:21,000 --> 01:06:23,910 or they can come into in person or online, 1340 01:06:23,910 --> 01:06:28,500 and they're allowed 2 minutes to address the board. 1341 01:06:28,500 --> 01:06:32,310 At the conclusion of that address, we can make a take, 1342 01:06:32,310 --> 01:06:35,580 have an action, taken action to provide them an answer or that 1343 01:06:35,580 --> 01:06:39,420 or direct them to the appropriate resources for that. 1344 01:06:39,420 --> 01:06:41,790 And this applies to all public hearings. 1345 01:06:41,790 --> 01:06:43,950 So if you do want to make a comment, 1346 01:06:43,950 --> 01:06:48,120 you can give you two minutes to make a comment, 1347 01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:52,710 but you can also write a comment to myself or the agency, 1348 01:06:52,710 --> 01:06:57,660 and that will be more than happy to address those comments. 1349 01:06:57,660 --> 01:07:00,420 So is there anybody in person or online 1350 01:07:00,420 --> 01:07:03,420 that would like to make a public comment at this time? 1351 01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:06,720 If you're online, just go ahead and just click your mic, 1352 01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,315 state your name and make the comment. 1353 01:07:08,315 --> 01:07:13,880 1354 01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,890 I see no public comments and no public comments in person here. 1355 01:07:18,890 --> 01:07:22,615 So we'll be moving on to item number 2.6 in a board comments. 1356 01:07:22,615 --> 01:07:27,420 1357 01:07:27,420 --> 01:07:28,390 I just have one comment. 1358 01:07:28,390 --> 01:07:30,790 So Thank you very much, Phil, on your work there. 1359 01:07:30,790 --> 01:07:33,270 I appreciate that very much. 1360 01:07:33,270 --> 01:07:37,080 Committee Leeds, Thank you very much for that. 1361 01:07:37,080 --> 01:07:38,940 Samantha has got an action for all of us 1362 01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:42,240 to submit our low income plan or approve that. 1363 01:07:42,240 --> 01:07:43,500 I appreciate that. 1364 01:07:43,500 --> 01:07:48,840 Get on the calendar for your committees, your councils 1365 01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:52,350 and in March so we can keep this ball rolling 1366 01:07:52,350 --> 01:07:56,790 and get to the application by the end of March. 1367 01:07:56,790 --> 01:07:58,140 We have no clothes, vitamins. 1368 01:07:58,140 --> 01:08:00,990 So I will look for a motion to adjourn. 1369 01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:03,000 So moved. 1370 01:08:03,000 --> 01:08:06,450 I suck at the motion of motion from Councilmember Jackson 1371 01:08:06,450 --> 01:08:08,140 and second from Councilmember Quinn. 1372 01:08:08,140 --> 01:08:08,740 All in favor. 1373 01:08:08,740 --> 01:08:15,210 Say, I, I, I, I. I'm almost done. 1374 01:08:15,210 --> 01:08:18,630 We are adjourned. 1375 01:08:18,630 --> 01:08:20,510 Thank you. 1376 01:08:20,510 --> 01:08:29,000