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connect the urban renewal agency

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first item on the agendas the acceptance

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of the minutes of May 16th meeting

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entertain a motion to approve of my Mr

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palomini seconded by Mr motivir and all

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in favor I stay opposed next items

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2023-01 authorized Elise of 100 J Street

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to Metroplex

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it's a lot across the street to the fire

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was we've talked about before but it's

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in the title of Surah so that it would

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entertain a motion to approve that move

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with Mr palamini thanks I got a

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Porterfield all in favor any opposed

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resolution is adapted next to the

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resolution is

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2023-02 authorizing the transfer of

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property currently owned by Surah to the

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city of Schenectady again in this this

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would be a general authorization where

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when we take property in in rev

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foreclosure we then transfer it to Surah

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where there's some accounting and tax

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advantages to the city this and what we

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do now is do an individual resolution to

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transfer it back when we sell it this

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would just authorize a blanket transfer

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upon the authorization of the city

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council to sell those properties

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entertain a motion to approve

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so when we when the individual

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properties come you're saying we'll see

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them as individual properties say that

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once again you're saying that when the

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properties come individually you will

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to the city council the city council

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would have to authorize it and this

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would pre-authorize returning it back to

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the city when we actually sell it thank

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you entertain a motion move by Mr

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palimini secondly Mr motiviran all in

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aye any opposed any other business to

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come before the agency

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by Mr motivaren agency stands adjourned

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all right the first item on our city

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council agenda

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um meeting to order for Monday February

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6 2023 first item on the agenda

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presentation Mr Colony yes um there's a

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company called create about door they do

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garbage cans with basically garbage can

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recycling bins that they can put

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these bins would be maintained by them

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they sell ads on them we would get some

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money in exchange but to give a

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presentation we have Jim diamond from

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creative outdoor and you should all have

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that in your packet unfortunately we're

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unable to get the computer equipment

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going but if you want and he just has a

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short presentation to let everybody know

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about what the garbage can

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deal with thank you counseling thank you

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for allowing me to speak tonight

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as he mentioned you have the uh packets

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in front of you with general information

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about the program I'm going to go over

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that very quickly and then I would like

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to answer any questions that you might

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have most importantly again thank you

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for the time to speak tonight so

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creative outdoor

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started in the 1980s we have over 250

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Municipal relationships and Partnerships

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throughout North America we have over 17

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000 units in place and 5 000 sponsorship

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clients that utilize our units on a

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monthly basis

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we only offer TurnKey amenity programs

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to municipalities that are cost free 100

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cost free the municipality and to the

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citizenry

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so our core philosophies are that the

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street Furniture blend in and keep the

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integrity and the community standards in

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both appearance and advertising on all

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of the units these units will be three

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units wide about six feet wide by two

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feet deep with sponsorships on both

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sides and as Mr palomini had mentioned

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we handle everything

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installation procurement installation

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handling the advertising and the

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collection there is no responsibility by

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the city the the program is completely

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controlled by the city 100 both in

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locations and who is allowed to sponsor

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these programs

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so we don't we don't allow big National

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companies it's all local business

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advertising that would take part in this

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there's also an element with this

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program in which Schenectady could take

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advantage of

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five percent generally of the units for

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local community messaging at no charge

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so whatever

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it may be a large Festival that's going

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on or a a big push for recycling in a

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lot of cases they do recycling education

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information on them as well as we have

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reached out to local community

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organizations and schools in which we

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Supply them with local with recycling

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educational materials so that they can

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promote this message throughout the city

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again the city controls 100 of the

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locations of these as well as who is

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allowed to sponsor them we handle

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everything else it completely

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indemnifying the city of any liability

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we have insurance on each every one of

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them if you desire that they're in a

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location where let's say there's no

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concrete at the time we will put the

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concrete pad in and install it all with

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ADA compliance all keeping site

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triangles in mind at all busy

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intersections so the safety is the

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that is the broad Strokes of this

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program I don't want to take up too much

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time so I'd like to answer any questions

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that you might have about the program if

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I can so would you speak a little bit to

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the revenue sharing piece of it and just

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to clarify there are two options for

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garbage collection one our city Crews

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would pick it up the other

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um would be I'm your responsibility

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absolutely so there is a revenue sharing

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portion of this a port a percentage of

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the monthly Revenue that is generated by

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the local sponsorship would come back to

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the city that percentage is purely based

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on how much work we are doing as a

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company versus how much the city is

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taking on and by work I mean emptying

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and collecting these units we will

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always maintain them we will always

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fix any repairs and all of that

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100 of the time collection if we are

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going to collect we will collect all of

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and it will be a lower percentage that

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the city will receive as far as Revenue

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let's just say for round numbers five

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percent of the revenue would be

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generated would come to the city monthly

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now if we were going to do the

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collection we it would probably be about

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five percent if Schenectady was going to

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continue doing the collection as you

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have you and you have containers

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throughout the local city here if DPW is

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going to do collection

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we may it may be a 15 of Revenue would

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be coming into the city each month it's

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all gonna that's a little fluid in the

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agreement just based on how many units

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we're placing and how much collection

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we're doing

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are there any other questions that

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are there municipalities around the fed

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or are you already working with yeah yes

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so I'm working with in this stage quite

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a few I was brought in with creative

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outdoor to bring this into the New York

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Market we have a great concentration in

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the Florida area that's where our home

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headquarters is and we have a great com

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number of units and relationships in the

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Massachusetts Long Island

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Rhode Island and New Jersey areas it's

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my job to expand us into the New York

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Region so we're your first year contact

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which you're essentially saying yeah not

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contact but yes and we're in this

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process I can't use any as reference

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because we're in the contract

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negotiation process or we're in the

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presentation processes right now but

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other municipalities that are looking at

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this all the way down to the up and down

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the Thruway including my hometown

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Syracuse which

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they've got a they've got a a different

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aspect of this program

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based on the picture that I this

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particular picture yes it looks like I

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mean they're very large I thought the

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dimension said 71 inches actually

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um it does so

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that's that's pretty weird

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um this is and you can there's three

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collection there's recycling trash

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that is actually whatever the city wants

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it to be so I mentioned Syracuse has a

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little bit different of a program

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they're solely interested in litter

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abatement they don't want to go the

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recycling route because litter is such a

296
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problem they're doing all three litter

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all three are going to be trash we'll

298
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move into the recycling as the education

299
00:29:35,820 --> 00:29:38,220
gets better but they need stuff up off

300
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the ground so they're going Litter with

301
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all of them right now and they're using

302
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some of their own cans to supplement

303
00:29:44,039 --> 00:29:46,440
that as well because that's their main

304
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:49,559
issue okay so I'm sorry to interrupt

305
00:29:49,559 --> 00:29:53,039
those three can be whatever the city

306
00:29:53,039 --> 00:29:55,500
wants it can be commingle glass Plastics

307
00:29:55,500 --> 00:29:59,340
and trash it can be co-mingle uh glass

308
00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:03,000
paper and trash whatever you want it to

309
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concentrate on and so they're locked in

310
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they are a lot of things yes because

311
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people try to collect the recyclables

312
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absolutely

313
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my other quick question is um you said

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that they that Syracuse has their own

315
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recycling has their own trash bins as

316
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well in conjunction with this because

317
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the information we said that you would

318
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want us to remove all the trash cans

319
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which has been said thousands of dollars

320
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over the last couple years absolutely no

321
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I I would not want you to

322
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do away with your Cur we can replace

323
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some of them and we can you can relocate

324
00:30:36,539 --> 00:30:39,480
some that you currently have uh usually

325
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,340
those the ones that I have seen

326
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throughout the city are the 45 gallon

327
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steel containers

328
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:48,179
um or 50 gallon steel containers

329
00:30:48,179 --> 00:30:52,559
we can re-locate those with DPW and to

330
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other locations if you want these units

331
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to be in specific locations we this is

332
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completely controlled by the city so we

333
00:31:00,299 --> 00:31:03,299
will be fluid to whatever your needs are

334
00:31:03,299 --> 00:31:05,760
with that we we don't want to just put

335
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them in the landfill for sure we want to

336
00:31:07,620 --> 00:31:09,539
utilize them as best we can

337
00:31:09,539 --> 00:31:12,120
so uh if I understand correctly like

338
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there's you know there's different costs

339
00:31:13,380 --> 00:31:15,480
associated with um the proper you know

340
00:31:15,480 --> 00:31:17,760
processing of trash or and you know

341
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,159
recycling tickets so just that

342
00:31:20,159 --> 00:31:22,980
um impact uh the proper sharing so in

343
00:31:22,980 --> 00:31:25,260
other words if we say we want to go

344
00:31:25,260 --> 00:31:28,080
um you know recycling you know um but

345
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:31,980
that you know recycling versus Trash

346
00:31:31,980 --> 00:31:34,140
um will that impact the profit share or

347
00:31:34,140 --> 00:31:37,799
what what our operations team that's a

348
00:31:37,799 --> 00:31:41,039
great question our operations team is

349
00:31:41,039 --> 00:31:44,340
has that all under control and it's all

350
00:31:44,340 --> 00:31:47,820
kind of baked into the program now I

351
00:31:47,820 --> 00:31:49,080
don't know how familiar you are with

352
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,120
landfills and that process but there is

353
00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:53,399
a tipping fee when we when you bring

354
00:31:53,399 --> 00:31:58,200
this bag of recycling or trash to the

355
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:00,360
landfill there's a tipping fee for that

356
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:03,179
bag of trash that would still have to be

357
00:32:03,179 --> 00:32:05,700
covered by this city because it's the

358
00:32:05,700 --> 00:32:08,520
city's refuse

359
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,679
um we will take it there and we will

360
00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:12,600
provide receipts for everything that's

361
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,120
brought in tipping fees would

362
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,039
wouldn't change at all you're currently

363
00:32:17,039 --> 00:32:19,039
paying for them and that would continue

364
00:32:19,039 --> 00:32:22,919
we just cover everything else

365
00:32:22,919 --> 00:32:25,440
so just for some further information

366
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:28,860
there's been some conversations with

367
00:32:28,860 --> 00:32:31,140
commissioner Lafond the mayor a couple

368
00:32:31,140 --> 00:32:35,480
other individuals the idea is to replace

369
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,919
some of the garbage cans in the city

370
00:32:37,919 --> 00:32:40,700
that just aren't very good

371
00:32:40,700 --> 00:32:43,620
obviously to keep in mind the what the

372
00:32:43,620 --> 00:32:45,360
neighborhoods have done with some of the

373
00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,059
newer garbage cans and their programs to

374
00:32:48,059 --> 00:32:50,179
keep those in place

375
00:32:50,179 --> 00:32:54,600
and to try to do that in a mixture so

376
00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:56,760
that work that the neighborhoods have

377
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:59,460
done to put those those nice garbage

378
00:32:59,460 --> 00:33:03,299
cans in still remain but the other ones

379
00:33:03,299 --> 00:33:05,760
that are probably in disrepair do get

380
00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,820
replaced it wouldn't be an extra load

381
00:33:08,820 --> 00:33:13,500
for the garbage Crews I think Mr Lafond

382
00:33:13,500 --> 00:33:17,580
is there so that was a discussion to

383
00:33:17,580 --> 00:33:20,539
take place to make sure that one

384
00:33:20,539 --> 00:33:24,720
burden our workers even more and so

385
00:33:24,720 --> 00:33:28,140
that's kind of what has taken place up

386
00:33:28,140 --> 00:33:31,430
until now

387
00:33:31,440 --> 00:33:34,080
so do they would how would the unions

388
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:35,640
play into this at all in terms of

389
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,919
someone else doing that work I guess

390
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:39,919
that's more of a question for Mr LaVon

391
00:33:39,919 --> 00:33:42,179
in terms of collection which is

392
00:33:42,179 --> 00:33:44,460
something that our I think is we're

393
00:33:44,460 --> 00:33:47,220
collecting it now you know the city was

394
00:33:47,220 --> 00:33:49,140
open to it we will continue collecting

395
00:33:49,140 --> 00:33:51,240
it that way our share of the revenue

396
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:52,919
would be greater we're collecting them

397
00:33:52,919 --> 00:33:54,299
now

398
00:33:54,299 --> 00:33:56,279
um throughout the city and you know

399
00:33:56,279 --> 00:33:58,740
depending on that but about 500

400
00:33:58,740 --> 00:34:00,260
difference

401
00:34:00,260 --> 00:34:05,220
you know we talked we can handle the

402
00:34:05,220 --> 00:34:07,919
extra load of picking this trash up if

403
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:09,419
it was trash or if it was recyclables

404
00:34:09,419 --> 00:34:11,700
that we're doing the current

405
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:14,520
so that means that our our staff our

406
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:17,460
city staff would need uh keys to oats

407
00:34:17,460 --> 00:34:18,899
because a lot so they would need key

408
00:34:18,899 --> 00:34:20,639
said that'd be part of them their work

409
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,000
to open it okay

410
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,879
another question um about the the size

411
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:28,320
of these and where these are based on

412
00:34:28,320 --> 00:34:29,520
the pictures I've seen they look like

413
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:31,320
they're mostly in downtown areas or

414
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:32,940
shopping malls or those kind of things

415
00:34:32,940 --> 00:34:35,399
are these also located in neighborhood

416
00:34:35,399 --> 00:34:38,099
high traffic areas is where we like to

417
00:34:38,099 --> 00:34:41,280
concentrate both for the recycling

418
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:45,119
portion of it and the sponsorship end of

419
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:47,760
it because those sponsors want the

420
00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,280
highest traffic that they can

421
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:52,740
receive based on their locations now

422
00:34:52,740 --> 00:34:57,829
some might like the entrance to to a

423
00:34:57,839 --> 00:35:00,780
not a not a not a neighborhood itself

424
00:35:00,780 --> 00:35:04,440
but uh on a higher traffic portion

425
00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:06,480
because they're on that side of town or

426
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:07,800
they're on the other side of town and

427
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,660
they want more traffic being generated

428
00:35:09,660 --> 00:35:12,359
that way how the very briefly how this

429
00:35:12,359 --> 00:35:14,520
process works is if this is something we

430
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,220
move forward with once the arrangements

431
00:35:17,220 --> 00:35:20,099
and the agreement is reached percentage

432
00:35:20,099 --> 00:35:22,940
and things like that then

433
00:35:22,940 --> 00:35:25,500
once we have the agreement signed by

434
00:35:25,500 --> 00:35:28,619
both parties we send in our auditor and

435
00:35:28,619 --> 00:35:32,400
he would come here and he would spend a

436
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,099
day looking at the high traffic areas he

437
00:35:35,099 --> 00:35:37,079
would speak to whoever the point person

438
00:35:37,079 --> 00:35:39,740
was going to be and he would also

439
00:35:39,740 --> 00:35:42,180
utilize a Google Maps because you can do

440
00:35:42,180 --> 00:35:44,579
street view now and we would put

441
00:35:44,579 --> 00:35:46,320
together a list we've been doing this

442
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,200
for going on 45 years we would put

443
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:52,380
together a list of where we know that

444
00:35:52,380 --> 00:35:54,780
these units would be

445
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:59,099
in the best interests of the city and

446
00:35:59,099 --> 00:36:01,740
our sponsors our two partners in this we

447
00:36:01,740 --> 00:36:04,320
would submit that list to the city for

448
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,260
your approval now you may say yes these

449
00:36:07,260 --> 00:36:10,260
40 spots are perfect these ten no we

450
00:36:10,260 --> 00:36:11,660
don't want them here we want them here

451
00:36:11,660 --> 00:36:14,040
and we would just go back and forth with

452
00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:16,680
that you're in complete control 100 of

453
00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,260
the time and everything would be hashed

454
00:36:19,260 --> 00:36:21,000
out that way so there would never be a

455
00:36:21,000 --> 00:36:23,480
question of what we do want to hear also

456
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,099
they can be moved at any point in time

457
00:36:26,099 --> 00:36:28,740
if there's a DPW project and you're

458
00:36:28,740 --> 00:36:30,839
widening a street we have to take three

459
00:36:30,839 --> 00:36:33,000
hours we take them out we hold them and

460
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:34,800
then we put them back in when that

461
00:36:34,800 --> 00:36:37,800
project is done or we relocate them it's

462
00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:40,320
based on whatever Schenectady would need

463
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:50,589
at that time

464
00:36:50,599 --> 00:36:53,280
that need to be

465
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:56,160
in this in a city this size I would say

466
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,660
that 40 would probably be a safe minimum

467
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:03,599
um we don't want to exceed one per

468
00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:06,599
thousand people population generally one

469
00:37:06,599 --> 00:37:10,020
per thousand is a perfect fit for both

470
00:37:10,020 --> 00:37:13,020
the sponsorship and the city needs you

471
00:37:13,020 --> 00:37:17,220
know in in the higher traffic areas I

472
00:37:17,220 --> 00:37:18,180
have

473
00:37:18,180 --> 00:37:21,359
quite a few municipalities one that's

474
00:37:21,359 --> 00:37:23,760
being started installation in the next

475
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,040
two weeks they're doing two phases

476
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,380
they're doing a phase one with their

477
00:37:28,380 --> 00:37:31,380
first 47 and then they're adding 20 more

478
00:37:31,380 --> 00:37:34,200
probably in six months just because they

479
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,000
want to do it in phases like that that

480
00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,119
was what council wanted so again we can

481
00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:42,599
adapt to anything like that but in order

482
00:37:42,599 --> 00:37:46,880
for this program to work we do need

483
00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,200
we're going to hire someone in

484
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:53,660
Schenectady to do this the maintenance

485
00:37:53,660 --> 00:37:57,420
to take care of these units in order to

486
00:37:57,420 --> 00:38:00,000
pay that person what they deserve and

487
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,040
what they have earned you gotta have at

488
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:04,260
least 40 in the city this size to make

489
00:38:04,260 --> 00:38:06,180
it worth their while and then the second

490
00:38:06,180 --> 00:38:08,820
question art is uh perceptual but uh

491
00:38:08,820 --> 00:38:10,740
vandalism is pretty straightforward are

492
00:38:10,740 --> 00:38:12,780
very considerations to like us

493
00:38:12,780 --> 00:38:14,880
maintaining the Integrity of the the

494
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:17,280
devices or is there an expectation where

495
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,680
something was continuously destroyed or

496
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:22,260
damaged you yourself would identify this

497
00:38:22,260 --> 00:38:25,140
as no longer a viable location so this

498
00:38:25,140 --> 00:38:28,260
is a partnership uh we are going to be

499
00:38:28,260 --> 00:38:30,680
100

500
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,839
replacing repairing they they're going

501
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:36,240
to get power washed at minimum monthly

502
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:38,460
if they need it more they're going to be

503
00:38:38,460 --> 00:38:40,980
seen weekly and they're going to be kept

504
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:42,540
up

505
00:38:42,540 --> 00:38:44,579
the technology around the maintenance is

506
00:38:44,579 --> 00:38:46,859
one of the most impressive parts of this

507
00:38:46,859 --> 00:38:49,190
program

508
00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:51,480
whoever is in control of this will

509
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,579
actually have a website for each and

510
00:38:53,579 --> 00:38:55,380
every unit and they will be able to go

511
00:38:55,380 --> 00:38:58,200
on and see real-time maintenance data so

512
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,119
let's say there's a loose bolt that's

513
00:39:00,119 --> 00:39:02,160
popping out of one of the feet they

514
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:04,320
would take a before picture they would

515
00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:05,760
fix it they would take an after picture

516
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,040
and all of that data would be uploaded

517
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,980
immediately so whoever is in charge of

518
00:39:10,980 --> 00:39:15,540
that can view it as much as they want

519
00:39:15,540 --> 00:39:18,359
if we have a unit that just becomes a

520
00:39:18,359 --> 00:39:20,700
problem now one gets hit by a car we're

521
00:39:20,700 --> 00:39:22,200
going to come in within 24 hours and

522
00:39:22,200 --> 00:39:23,460
we're going to have that replaced

523
00:39:23,460 --> 00:39:25,140
especially when it's a safety

524
00:39:25,140 --> 00:39:28,800
if there's vandalism let's say it's

525
00:39:28,800 --> 00:39:31,859
no man 11 no vandalism is appropriate

526
00:39:31,859 --> 00:39:34,560
but let's say it's really inappropriate

527
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,240
that's going to be handled within 24

528
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:38,960
hours we're not going to let that stay

529
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,280
other maintenance concerns everything

530
00:39:41,280 --> 00:39:43,200
can be done over the Internet we also

531
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,260
have a live person that will answer the

532
00:39:46,260 --> 00:39:48,060
phone in operations that can handle any

533
00:39:48,060 --> 00:39:50,940
concerns if we have a problem with one

534
00:39:50,940 --> 00:39:53,420
specific unit that just keeps getting

535
00:39:53,420 --> 00:39:56,339
vandalized and damaged we may just have

536
00:39:56,339 --> 00:39:58,320
a conversation of is this worth it for

537
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,900
either of us to have this unit in this

538
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:03,359
place can we move it somewhere else it's

539
00:40:03,359 --> 00:40:04,859
a partnership you're always going to be

540
00:40:04,859 --> 00:40:06,960
in control of that

541
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:08,900
yeah

542
00:40:08,900 --> 00:40:12,060
one question uh cooperation Council if

543
00:40:12,060 --> 00:40:13,140
we were to move forward with this

544
00:40:13,140 --> 00:40:14,760
program do we need to amend the city

545
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,220
ordinance to accommodate for outdoor

546
00:40:17,220 --> 00:40:19,260
advertising

547
00:40:19,260 --> 00:40:20,700
for this program

548
00:40:20,700 --> 00:40:23,460
I've looked into this very briefly

549
00:40:23,460 --> 00:40:25,800
um I think it's worthy of me taking a

550
00:40:25,800 --> 00:40:27,780
deeper dive into it and look at some of

551
00:40:27,780 --> 00:40:30,540
the case Law related to this

552
00:40:30,540 --> 00:40:34,380
um so what I would say is I would like

553
00:40:34,380 --> 00:40:37,079
that opportunity part of it is I it has

554
00:40:37,079 --> 00:40:39,960
to do with essentially what what we're

555
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,040
putting it on rather than you know the

556
00:40:43,040 --> 00:40:46,579
billboard or you know a sign on premises

557
00:40:46,579 --> 00:40:49,320
you know case law generally says and we

558
00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,119
can discuss it you know in Greater

559
00:40:51,119 --> 00:40:53,940
detail that the city is not required to

560
00:40:53,940 --> 00:40:54,740
follow

561
00:40:54,740 --> 00:40:59,460
every aspect of the zoning ordinance

562
00:40:59,460 --> 00:41:02,160
um I know Mr Marty and I have talked

563
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,780
briefly about this but it's certainly

564
00:41:03,780 --> 00:41:06,420
worth a deeper dive the other thing I

565
00:41:06,420 --> 00:41:08,280
just want to add as it relates to

566
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:10,920
advertising because this has come up to

567
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:12,020
um

568
00:41:12,020 --> 00:41:14,220
the city would be hands off on

569
00:41:14,220 --> 00:41:16,980
determining who gets to advertise

570
00:41:16,980 --> 00:41:18,780
um and or who doesn't get to advertise

571
00:41:18,780 --> 00:41:22,079
that has to be handled strictly by the

572
00:41:22,079 --> 00:41:26,359
company so as to not

573
00:41:26,359 --> 00:41:28,500
essentially violate anybody's First

574
00:41:28,500 --> 00:41:31,140
Amendment rights so the company would be

575
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:33,720
handling all aspects of Lucas to

576
00:41:33,720 --> 00:41:35,280
advertise

577
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:38,579
can I just speak to that momentarily so

578
00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:40,560
I really appreciate you bringing that up

579
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:42,660
it always comes up

580
00:41:42,660 --> 00:41:46,079
uh the first amendment is a it's the

581
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:48,599
first of the Amendments it's a very

582
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:50,579
important one

583
00:41:50,579 --> 00:41:52,920
we have very high standards when it

584
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:55,920
comes to who can sponsor these

585
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,859
no tobacco no alcohol family-friendly

586
00:41:58,859 --> 00:42:01,260
local business there's one caveat to

587
00:42:01,260 --> 00:42:02,220
that

588
00:42:02,220 --> 00:42:06,660
with marijuana being in on everyone's

589
00:42:06,660 --> 00:42:08,760
mind and these local dispensaries and

590
00:42:08,760 --> 00:42:11,099
things like that we typically will leave

591
00:42:11,099 --> 00:42:14,579
that up to the city if the city says we

592
00:42:14,579 --> 00:42:16,859
don't want a part of that we want to be

593
00:42:16,859 --> 00:42:19,380
hands off we will that will not be

594
00:42:19,380 --> 00:42:20,820
something that we would allow a

595
00:42:20,820 --> 00:42:23,760
sponsorship it's it has to be wholesome

596
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,040
family friendly local

597
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,160
the dog groomer the doggy day care the

598
00:42:29,160 --> 00:42:32,579
daycare the the diner that's the

599
00:42:32,579 --> 00:42:35,700
businesses that our advertising team has

600
00:42:35,700 --> 00:42:38,280
the most success with we stay away from

601
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:41,220
political we stay away from we we stay

602
00:42:41,220 --> 00:42:43,140
away from anything that can be a hotbot

603
00:42:43,140 --> 00:42:44,339
okay

604
00:42:44,339 --> 00:42:46,740
so if I understand what you're saying

605
00:42:46,740 --> 00:42:48,900
correctly but even in that circumstance

606
00:42:48,900 --> 00:42:52,140
the city wouldn't be saying you know we

607
00:42:52,140 --> 00:42:55,140
you know it would be this industry yes

608
00:42:55,140 --> 00:42:56,820
it's not allowed you know we're not

609
00:42:56,820 --> 00:42:58,800
interested in advertising for this

610
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:00,780
industry not a particular

611
00:43:00,780 --> 00:43:04,440
uh a company that's in such what you

612
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:07,200
know we wouldn't be in by at least you

613
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:08,460
know if someone's first amendment was

614
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:09,980
right is that how you understand it

615
00:43:09,980 --> 00:43:13,980
again I can speak more you know in terms

616
00:43:13,980 --> 00:43:16,200
of like legal advice obviously

617
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:18,540
um an executive session if the council

618
00:43:18,540 --> 00:43:22,079
would like but just as a blanket matter

619
00:43:22,079 --> 00:43:23,880
the city shouldn't be involved in any

620
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,579
determination on legal lawful activities

621
00:43:26,579 --> 00:43:29,280
for the purposes of advertising if

622
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:31,579
something was obviously you know

623
00:43:31,579 --> 00:43:34,319
advocating for the use of not advocating

624
00:43:34,319 --> 00:43:38,119
but you know illegal drug you know trade

625
00:43:38,119 --> 00:43:40,260
obviously that would be against the law

626
00:43:40,260 --> 00:43:41,940
and that would not be something that

627
00:43:41,940 --> 00:43:43,500
would be a lot we could say no you can't

628
00:43:43,500 --> 00:43:45,660
advertise that but for anything that is

629
00:43:45,660 --> 00:43:47,579
lawful my recommendation is the city

630
00:43:47,579 --> 00:43:49,079
does not make any determinations we

631
00:43:49,079 --> 00:43:50,819
leave it up to whomever we're going to

632
00:43:50,819 --> 00:43:52,920
contract with to make those decisions

633
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:56,579
and we don't say yes or no it's going to

634
00:43:56,579 --> 00:43:58,560
be decision of whomever we are

635
00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:04,450
Contracting with

636
00:44:04,460 --> 00:44:06,500
questions

637
00:44:06,500 --> 00:44:09,540
so I'd just like to I can follow along

638
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:11,099
with uh

639
00:44:11,099 --> 00:44:14,040
with Mr palomini after this but I just

640
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,680
want to just mention the process

641
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:20,040
um as we're talking about legal I can

642
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,819
submit a blank sample copy of the

643
00:44:23,819 --> 00:44:24,960
agreement

644
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:27,780
for so you can see what it's all about

645
00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:31,260
and what is what letters what's

646
00:44:31,260 --> 00:44:33,900
our responsibility versus uh what's on

647
00:44:33,900 --> 00:44:35,700
the city I can supply any information

648
00:44:35,700 --> 00:44:39,359
that Council would request and I thank

649
00:44:39,359 --> 00:44:42,660
you for your time oh yes please so you

650
00:44:42,660 --> 00:44:44,160
know you said this is absolutely no cost

651
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:45,900
to us actually we're going to get

652
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:48,020
Revenue how do you generate your revenue

653
00:44:48,020 --> 00:44:50,700
from the local sponsorship sponsorship

654
00:44:50,700 --> 00:44:53,880
yep that's it yes local sponsorship and

655
00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:56,339
I can just speak to that a little bit

656
00:44:56,339 --> 00:44:58,740
because a lot of times I will get what

657
00:44:58,740 --> 00:45:00,319
happens if you don't get a sponsorship

658
00:45:00,319 --> 00:45:04,260
what do we do then we will it is one of

659
00:45:04,260 --> 00:45:07,920
the lowest cost advertising avenues for

660
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,200
a small business small businesses can't

661
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:12,780
get the high highway billboard the

662
00:45:12,780 --> 00:45:14,339
television and radio ads and the

663
00:45:14,339 --> 00:45:17,099
newsprint are tough expensive these are

664
00:45:17,099 --> 00:45:19,280
very affordable for the local business

665
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,260
that's why they're so popular with the

666
00:45:22,260 --> 00:45:25,140
local business our average sponsorship

667
00:45:25,140 --> 00:45:28,560
client stays with us for 7.2 years

668
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,140
and that's the Mom and Pops that they

669
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:33,660
stay with us that long so it's very

670
00:45:33,660 --> 00:45:35,220
popular with them and we have we will

671
00:45:35,220 --> 00:45:38,339
have in specifically in Schenectady we

672
00:45:38,339 --> 00:45:41,220
will have a waiting list for these units

673
00:45:41,220 --> 00:45:42,720
within a year

674
00:45:42,720 --> 00:45:47,480
once our uh advertising team gets a hold

675
00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:49,920
thank you absolutely thank you for your

676
00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:55,130
time I appreciate it thanks for coming

677
00:45:55,140 --> 00:45:58,260
over government operations we have three

678
00:45:58,260 --> 00:46:00,240
items on the agenda

679
00:46:00,240 --> 00:46:02,099
the first is regarding the frequency

680
00:46:02,099 --> 00:46:11,510
question of white votes in this qualify

681
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:14,099
good evening thank you who's here again

682
00:46:14,099 --> 00:46:16,380
to answer any questions you may have and

683
00:46:16,380 --> 00:46:17,940
then we have this discussion about a

684
00:46:17,940 --> 00:46:20,460
month ago no white jokes the frequency

685
00:46:20,460 --> 00:46:22,440
is that we're looking to do a public

686
00:46:22,440 --> 00:46:24,000
hearing between moving frequency

687
00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,160
reflection for white goods the monthly

688
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:28,740
basis versus the weekly and stated in

689
00:46:28,740 --> 00:46:30,839
the state code currently

690
00:46:30,839 --> 00:46:33,060
somebody was under your dentist

691
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:34,859
came in to see if I can answer any

692
00:46:34,859 --> 00:46:37,870
questions

693
00:46:37,880 --> 00:46:41,099
so yeah some questions

694
00:46:41,099 --> 00:46:43,500
so we we talked about the last time and

695
00:46:43,500 --> 00:46:45,180
I guess it wasn't clear for me anyway

696
00:46:45,180 --> 00:46:46,680
that this had already moved forward

697
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,359
without the public hearing that they were printed with this change on

698
00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,280
there already correct they were praying

699
00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,740
because yes I authorized the printing

700
00:46:55,740 --> 00:46:58,319
with the modification on it we did not

701
00:46:58,319 --> 00:47:02,099
change the procedure in the fields but

702
00:47:02,099 --> 00:47:04,319
the timeline would have put it that we

703
00:47:04,319 --> 00:47:06,119
would have to either reprint it or put

704
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,160
it back another year and we've talked

705
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:11,160
about this for a year about Shifting the

706
00:47:11,160 --> 00:47:13,260
white goods collection to a more

707
00:47:13,260 --> 00:47:16,740
efficient manner so it's going to be one

708
00:47:16,740 --> 00:47:20,460
day a month again it is opposed to the

709
00:47:20,460 --> 00:47:23,099
random operation that we use now and so

710
00:47:23,099 --> 00:47:24,240
it's just trying to build some

711
00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:27,180
efficiency into it uh it's created a

712
00:47:27,180 --> 00:47:30,660
little inconvenience or uh question by

713
00:47:30,660 --> 00:47:33,480
the public again but the service has not

714
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,880
been shifted and again asking the

715
00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:38,040
council to move ahead with this so in

716
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,740
fact we can modify it so it builds a

717
00:47:40,740 --> 00:47:43,260
little operational efficiency into the

718
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:46,619
system having said that the way the

719
00:47:46,619 --> 00:47:48,480
market is now with recyclables with

720
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:49,880
white goods

721
00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:53,700
there's actually a premium on it so most

722
00:47:53,700 --> 00:47:55,380
of the Scrappers go out and pick it up

723
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:58,140
and we're in fact not picking up much in

724
00:47:58,140 --> 00:48:00,359
all of the curve is that correct and a

725
00:48:00,359 --> 00:48:01,800
lot of times you know when appliances

726
00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,260
are delivered the delivery guy is taking

727
00:48:04,260 --> 00:48:06,119
them and you can call somebody they're

728
00:48:06,119 --> 00:48:07,260
going to come get your appliances for

729
00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:08,520
freeze lines so you can have them but

730
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,480
we're seeing very few you know large

731
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:13,440
household appliances if they're doing

732
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,780
washer dryers out there on the curb and

733
00:48:15,780 --> 00:48:17,040
we have a truck out there on a weekly

734
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,140
basis and it's just an efficient

735
00:48:19,140 --> 00:48:20,940
operation you just be out there on a

736
00:48:20,940 --> 00:48:22,680
weekly basis waiting for a call because

737
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,579
we may have one you know some of them

738
00:48:26,579 --> 00:48:28,260
well it is because

739
00:48:28,260 --> 00:48:30,119
um the I'm sorry

740
00:48:30,119 --> 00:48:32,460
because we I we all started hearing from

741
00:48:32,460 --> 00:48:34,079
the public like what's changed what are

742
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:35,880
white goods even was the question and I

743
00:48:35,880 --> 00:48:37,920
know we had a discussion that we should

744
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:39,599
say what like what goods really were

745
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:40,940
because

746
00:48:40,940 --> 00:48:43,740
I know what the industry says it is I

747
00:48:43,740 --> 00:48:45,180
understand that we understand what it is

748
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:47,099
but the public journalism because I got

749
00:48:47,099 --> 00:48:50,099
phone calls water wipers the further

750
00:48:50,099 --> 00:48:52,380
um confusion was that people didn't

751
00:48:52,380 --> 00:48:54,020
understand based on the new schedule

752
00:48:54,020 --> 00:48:57,000
that white goods and their garbage

753
00:48:57,000 --> 00:48:58,560
collection day would like fall on the

754
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,440
same day sometimes and furthermore what

755
00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,760
was the process because there was no

756
00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:04,319
explanation as to what was the process

757
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:05,780
going to be

758
00:49:05,780 --> 00:49:08,700
Pride there was just new um a new

759
00:49:08,700 --> 00:49:10,380
schedule put out and there was no

760
00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:12,119
explanation I asked you about that about

761
00:49:12,119 --> 00:49:13,380
what we're going to be doing some public

762
00:49:13,380 --> 00:49:15,119
service announcements so all this has

763
00:49:15,119 --> 00:49:17,579
come back because the process the proper

764
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:19,560
procedures that this would have changed

765
00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:21,180
the code and then we would have printed

766
00:49:21,180 --> 00:49:23,460
that and that didn't happen so that's

767
00:49:23,460 --> 00:49:26,040
why we're back today to get some a

768
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,079
better way to roll this out to get more

769
00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:30,300
information out to the public

770
00:49:30,300 --> 00:49:33,359
um and you know to figure out how we do

771
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:35,160
this so that the council so it comes to

772
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,079
the council at the appropriate time

773
00:49:37,079 --> 00:49:38,520
before we move forward with doing the

774
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:40,440
work we've had some calls you know

775
00:49:40,440 --> 00:49:42,180
downstairs and we've directed them to

776
00:49:42,180 --> 00:49:43,520
the city code

777
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,859
161-21 where it defines white goods and

778
00:49:46,859 --> 00:49:49,560
has bulky washers dry refrigerators it

779
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:50,819
is in the city code it's always been in

780
00:49:50,819 --> 00:49:52,339
the city code

781
00:49:52,339 --> 00:49:55,859
and we have not a mayor stated we have

782
00:49:55,859 --> 00:49:57,540
not enforced anything it was on the

783
00:49:57,540 --> 00:49:59,640
schedule and it's highlighted on the

784
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,920
schedule as a normal pickup day with the

785
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,079
weight Goods attached

786
00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,760
um but anybody who's putting white goods

787
00:50:05,760 --> 00:50:07,500
out right now we're collecting them on a

788
00:50:07,500 --> 00:50:08,780
weekly basis if they're out there

789
00:50:08,780 --> 00:50:12,599
there's been no change in service but we

790
00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:14,579
were getting to the end on time slip by

791
00:50:14,579 --> 00:50:15,839
we're getting that we had to get the

792
00:50:15,839 --> 00:50:17,760
schedule out if we put the schedule out

793
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,339
without that on the schedule it would

794
00:50:20,339 --> 00:50:21,780
have been costly because then we had to

795
00:50:21,780 --> 00:50:23,280
fall and schedules back in and then

796
00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,500
recruit them with the white goods on so

797
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:27,960
we did print it with the white goods

798
00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:31,079
designation on once a month so if we did

799
00:50:31,079 --> 00:50:32,700
not everything would have been out

800
00:50:32,700 --> 00:50:34,319
nobody would have known and we won this

801
00:50:34,319 --> 00:50:36,780
would have waited until 24 to do it and

802
00:50:36,780 --> 00:50:37,920
gone through another year of putting the

803
00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:39,839
truck out there on a weekly basis

804
00:50:39,839 --> 00:50:43,319
so we did you know we did put it out a

805
00:50:43,319 --> 00:50:44,640
little prematurely because we were under

806
00:50:44,640 --> 00:50:49,849
the gun to get the schedules out

807
00:50:49,859 --> 00:50:52,619
just a concern so we're asking for a

808
00:50:52,619 --> 00:50:54,000
public hearing here

809
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:55,740
so if the public were to come out and

810
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:57,839
say we're against this once per month

811
00:50:57,839 --> 00:51:00,000
pick up I'm just using that what are we

812
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:01,020
going to do we're going to go back and

813
00:51:01,020 --> 00:51:03,180
print this reprint this

814
00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:04,559
we'll have to put the word out that

815
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:05,700
we're just going to continue to do what

816
00:51:05,700 --> 00:51:07,859
we're doing and that's it I don't know

817
00:51:07,859 --> 00:51:09,900
how the public would you know it's

818
00:51:09,900 --> 00:51:11,940
weekly versus monthly when does it come

819
00:51:11,940 --> 00:51:15,119
up like we said we hardly pick up any of

820
00:51:15,119 --> 00:51:17,940
these anyway and these big bulky items

821
00:51:17,940 --> 00:51:19,319
are being taken by The Scrappers in the

822
00:51:19,319 --> 00:51:22,250
middle of the night

823
00:51:22,260 --> 00:51:24,119
yeah that was my concern I mean is like

824
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,400
uh we you know we are doing it we're

825
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,020
confident public but we already did the

826
00:51:28,020 --> 00:51:28,859
work

827
00:51:28,859 --> 00:51:30,720
so what is the purpose of the console

828
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:32,940
here at this point what is the purpose

829
00:51:32,940 --> 00:51:34,619
of the council at this point in time

830
00:51:34,619 --> 00:51:36,119
will they show that we can actually

831
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:39,059
change the operations in the field and

832
00:51:39,059 --> 00:51:41,040
reduce the cost of garbage collection

833
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:42,720
that's correct but then we already

834
00:51:42,720 --> 00:51:44,040
printed this we're telling the public

835
00:51:44,040 --> 00:51:46,680
it's once per month pickup but now we're

836
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:50,220
doing the the work to make it the

837
00:51:50,220 --> 00:51:51,599
legality of it

838
00:51:51,599 --> 00:51:55,730
bro

839
00:51:55,740 --> 00:51:57,540
so would so

840
00:51:57,540 --> 00:52:00,780
what was the like is there you know

841
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:05,760
being that we're in the position that we're in here is this you know is

842
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:07,140
there a way to kind of uh you know

843
00:52:07,140 --> 00:52:09,420
transition it kind of it sounds like

844
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:11,280
you're you're saying that there's no

845
00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:12,619
change of service

846
00:52:12,619 --> 00:52:14,819
so other than let's print it on the card

847
00:52:14,819 --> 00:52:16,980
we have not changed the collection

848
00:52:16,980 --> 00:52:18,599
service for the white goods we are still

849
00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:20,819
going out if we're called because we

850
00:52:20,819 --> 00:52:23,040
have a rack truck that goes up if they

851
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,800
uh the truck calls and says there are

852
00:52:25,800 --> 00:52:27,540
way Goods out and then truck goes and

853
00:52:27,540 --> 00:52:29,520
picks it up

854
00:52:29,520 --> 00:52:32,040
we have not changed the actual service

855
00:52:32,040 --> 00:52:33,960
provided to the taxpayers of the city of

856
00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:36,240
sanctity based on the schedule we're

857
00:52:36,240 --> 00:52:41,510
still picking up on weekly basis

858
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,980
but how do people know that how would

859
00:52:43,980 --> 00:52:45,900
they know they sell the schedule how

860
00:52:45,900 --> 00:52:48,650
would they know

861
00:52:48,660 --> 00:52:50,160
there's a lot of things we didn't

862
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:51,720
discuss in the code I mean we're not

863
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:52,980
supposed to pick up trash that's in a

864
00:52:52,980 --> 00:52:54,540
dark bag right now we pick up

865
00:52:54,540 --> 00:52:55,920
everybody's Treasures in a dark pack

866
00:52:55,920 --> 00:52:57,480
city code States it should be in a clear

867
00:52:57,480 --> 00:52:58,500
bag

868
00:52:58,500 --> 00:52:59,819
I pick it up

869
00:52:59,819 --> 00:53:01,559
pick up every trash bag that's a black

870
00:53:01,559 --> 00:53:03,180
bag that I can't see what's in there

871
00:53:03,180 --> 00:53:05,040
city code does say we have to pick up

872
00:53:05,040 --> 00:53:06,540
clear bags I don't think you can buy

873
00:53:06,540 --> 00:53:08,339
clear bags anymore

874
00:53:08,339 --> 00:53:10,440
so maybe it's time that we really look

875
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,059
at our city code and make some

876
00:53:12,059 --> 00:53:17,880
adjustments to this whole city code

877
00:53:17,890 --> 00:53:19,200
[Music]

878
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:22,619
any other questions comments on that

879
00:53:22,619 --> 00:53:25,020
yeah so so we want to go to public

880
00:53:25,020 --> 00:53:27,300
hearing into Mr Moon Baron's point if

881
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:29,640
the public says absolutely not

882
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,800
then our recourse is to still move

883
00:53:31,800 --> 00:53:37,140
forward with what we printed on the if if the public hearings is absolutely

884
00:53:37,140 --> 00:53:38,880
not in the city council wants to not do

885
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:40,500
it like this will reprint the cards and

886
00:53:40,500 --> 00:53:41,940
we'll take it off the car

887
00:53:41,940 --> 00:53:43,859
well we're just going to continue to do

888
00:53:43,859 --> 00:53:45,480
what we're doing now

889
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,480
to put it up it gets picked up

890
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:51,059
and so then this then the car becomes

891
00:53:51,059 --> 00:53:52,559
non-void

892
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:55,380
um that that particular thing on which

893
00:53:55,380 --> 00:53:57,960
your garbage is picked up is marked on

894
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,240
that car and again we have talked about

895
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,640
this for over a year of trying to

896
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,859
improve efficiencies in the garbage

897
00:54:04,859 --> 00:54:08,040
collection and this is one of the items

898
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:10,079
I'm asking the council to move this

899
00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:13,380
forward and hold a public hearing aid I

900
00:54:13,380 --> 00:54:14,819
don't disagree we've been talking for a

901
00:54:14,819 --> 00:54:16,440
year unfortunately though the process

902
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:17,700
didn't go the way the process should

903
00:54:17,700 --> 00:54:19,079
have we have been talking about for a

904
00:54:19,079 --> 00:54:20,280
year and it didn't come before the

905
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,200
council in order to change the code so I

906
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:23,280
have to tell you that I am taking

907
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:28,309
exception to that

908
00:54:28,319 --> 00:54:29,940
and I there's other ways that we could

909
00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:31,440
have like worked with Scrappers perhaps

910
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,420
to make a list have them fall I mean

911
00:54:33,420 --> 00:54:35,280
there's there's innovative ways that

912
00:54:35,280 --> 00:54:36,420
have actually been given to me since

913
00:54:36,420 --> 00:54:38,460
I've been doing phone calls and all of

914
00:54:38,460 --> 00:54:39,540
this would have come forward in the

915
00:54:39,540 --> 00:54:41,640
public hearing before we printed our

916
00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,339
schedules so that mayor I have to tell

917
00:54:44,339 --> 00:54:46,920
you is is bothersome for me that you

918
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:48,240
know that it didn't come from the

919
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:49,140
council in order to change the code

920
00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:51,839
which is how it's supposed to happen

921
00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:53,460
and that's why I came back again because

922
00:54:53,460 --> 00:54:55,099
there were people that didn't understand

923
00:54:55,099 --> 00:54:57,420
of the council

924
00:54:57,420 --> 00:54:59,339
so at any time in the last year you

925
00:54:59,339 --> 00:55:01,200
wanted to go before the council you

926
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:03,180
could have put it on the agenda it

927
00:55:03,180 --> 00:55:04,559
wasn't for me to put on the agenda I was

928
00:55:04,559 --> 00:55:06,480
I went to one meeting and that was the

929
00:55:06,480 --> 00:55:08,400
only meeting I was ever invited to and

930
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,339
so those talks obviously continued and

931
00:55:11,339 --> 00:55:13,380
then it came here and when it got to the

932
00:55:13,380 --> 00:55:15,119
agenda it was not me who put the engine

933
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:17,579
No Agenda items are forwarded to me and

934
00:55:17,579 --> 00:55:19,140
then we can say yes or no and going

935
00:55:19,140 --> 00:55:20,760
forward

936
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:22,140
we'll have to make sure that everything

937
00:55:22,140 --> 00:55:23,640
has been done properly before it gets on

938
00:55:23,640 --> 00:55:28,250
the agenda

939
00:55:28,260 --> 00:55:30,420
any other questions or comments concerns

940
00:55:30,420 --> 00:55:36,950
around this item

941
00:55:36,960 --> 00:55:42,650
Okay so

942
00:55:42,660 --> 00:55:48,049
I guess yes

943
00:55:48,059 --> 00:55:50,640
I just want to make sure so I'm only

944
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,220
taking that moment to pause because I'm

945
00:55:53,220 --> 00:55:54,780
but it seems like what we're talking

946
00:55:54,780 --> 00:55:56,160
about is

947
00:55:56,160 --> 00:56:00,660
um just the the timeline into what the

948
00:56:00,660 --> 00:56:03,119
cards had to be printed versus in the

949
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:05,880
process of what usually

950
00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,440
um what is supposed to happen in order

951
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,839
to do that that's just kind of source so

952
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:14,700
work but as a body we're not

953
00:56:14,700 --> 00:56:15,420
um

954
00:56:15,420 --> 00:56:20,099
we're we are in agreement that with uh

955
00:56:20,099 --> 00:56:22,740
input from the public hearing or in

956
00:56:22,740 --> 00:56:25,020
agreement that this might be a more

957
00:56:25,020 --> 00:56:27,420
efficient way to collect the white goods

958
00:56:27,420 --> 00:56:28,800
it's just the process of what we've got

959
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:30,540
here what we're saying that's correct

960
00:56:30,540 --> 00:56:32,760
okay all right well I just wanted to

961
00:56:32,760 --> 00:56:34,619
meet you there for viewers and everyone

962
00:56:34,619 --> 00:56:37,500
that it's more about the process than

963
00:56:37,500 --> 00:56:39,180
what we're saying so

964
00:56:39,180 --> 00:56:41,280
um it entertaining motion to uh for

965
00:56:41,280 --> 00:56:50,030
public hearing

966
00:56:50,040 --> 00:56:52,750
okay

967
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:59,230
hold us a favor

968
00:56:59,240 --> 00:57:03,780
okay next item on the agenda is a

969
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:06,900
reminder of modification for article two

970
00:57:06,900 --> 00:57:08,160
of the city code for partner

971
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:10,980
certifications use public hearing loss

972
00:57:10,980 --> 00:57:20,750
on the 9th Chris morning

973
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,920
good evening everyone it's just a

974
00:57:22,920 --> 00:57:24,720
reminder for the changes for the

975
00:57:24,720 --> 00:57:27,720
certificate of use ordinance this has

976
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,339
already been through public hearing it's

977
00:57:29,339 --> 00:57:30,839
already been through committee once

978
00:57:30,839 --> 00:57:31,579
before

979
00:57:31,579 --> 00:57:33,960
it had been adjourned from the last

980
00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:35,640
committee meeting so that we could take

981
00:57:35,640 --> 00:57:37,380
this together with the zoning changes

982
00:57:37,380 --> 00:57:39,359
that busy I'll be presenting later for

983
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:40,880
medical facilities

984
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:43,740
the proposed revisions haven't changed

985
00:57:43,740 --> 00:57:45,359
much since the first committee meeting

986
00:57:45,359 --> 00:57:47,700
that this went through we did updates in

987
00:57:47,700 --> 00:57:49,140
the gender language

988
00:57:49,140 --> 00:57:50,940
some of the Antiquated language on the

989
00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:52,440
code which we could try to do we're

990
00:57:52,440 --> 00:57:53,940
going to be

991
00:57:53,940 --> 00:57:56,579
a piece of the city code and we did

992
00:57:56,579 --> 00:57:58,980
provide a more specific definition for

993
00:57:58,980 --> 00:58:02,940
the Cannabis uses and the tobacco uses

994
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:04,980
some of the internal feedback that we

995
00:58:04,980 --> 00:58:07,079
had received was that it was perhaps

996
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:09,300
convey that it would Encompass all the

997
00:58:09,300 --> 00:58:11,880
businesses we were trying to collect my

998
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,380
understanding has noticed didn't go out

999
00:58:13,380 --> 00:58:16,200
before the public hearing or all of the

1000
00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,680
existing vape shops and CBD shops that

1001
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,500
may be affected by the ordinance and

1002
00:58:22,500 --> 00:58:24,059
that there was very limited comment

1003
00:58:24,059 --> 00:58:26,760
received from the public with respect to

1004
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:29,990
the changes

1005
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,700
could you just talk a little bit about

1006
00:58:31,700 --> 00:58:34,680
the language change like what was for

1007
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,839
people were more specific

1008
00:58:36,839 --> 00:58:38,400
um so no maybe not I shouldn't say

1009
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,020
specifically just to give a better idea

1010
00:58:40,020 --> 00:58:42,839
sure for sure yeah the code um uh the

1011
00:58:42,839 --> 00:58:45,059
code used a lot of language that was

1012
00:58:45,059 --> 00:58:46,319
gender

1013
00:58:46,319 --> 00:58:48,359
um and then it also often referred to

1014
00:58:48,359 --> 00:58:50,160
servants so we didn't strike that

1015
00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,500
language and change it to something a

1016
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:54,420
little bit more generalized

1017
00:58:54,420 --> 00:58:56,640
uh and then with respect to the actual

1018
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:57,680
definition

1019
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:01,740
we just wanted to be clear that

1020
00:59:01,740 --> 00:59:04,440
uh you know with regard to the tobacco

1021
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,119
and cannabis uses that

1022
00:59:06,119 --> 00:59:08,880
it cannabinoid as well just based off of

1023
00:59:08,880 --> 00:59:10,319
some of the state definitions and how

1024
00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:13,020
they've been treating the uses what we

1025
00:59:13,020 --> 00:59:14,400
had originally provided just wasn't

1026
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:16,319
specific enough which it would have left

1027
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:20,510
out businesses that should be included

1028
00:59:20,520 --> 00:59:22,500
so we just kind of broaden it to cast

1029
00:59:22,500 --> 00:59:24,660
The Wider neck yeah yeah okay let's go

1030
00:59:24,660 --> 00:59:27,059
based off of uh based off of what the

1031
00:59:27,059 --> 00:59:29,460
business is primary source of income is

1032
00:59:29,460 --> 00:59:33,059
so it would be considered you know a

1033
00:59:33,059 --> 00:59:36,359
vape or a tobacco retail or a tobacco

1034
00:59:36,359 --> 00:59:39,000
consumption or cannabis consumption in

1035
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:42,599
retail if if their primary source of

1036
00:59:42,599 --> 00:59:44,640
income at retail are part of those

1037
00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:46,200
specific products for the perfect

1038
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:48,180
paraphernalia related to those products

1039
00:59:48,180 --> 00:59:50,280
and then they would be required to get a

1040
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:52,020
certificate of use there are some

1041
00:59:52,020 --> 00:59:54,059
businesses that they might sell those

1042
00:59:54,059 --> 00:59:55,859
products ancillary to what their Prime

1043
00:59:55,859 --> 00:59:57,119
like the grocery store that has

1044
00:59:57,119 --> 00:59:59,760
cigarettes or a convenience store that

1045
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,020
has cigarettes even though convenience

1046
01:00:01,020 --> 01:00:05,339
stores are bad examples to register but

1047
01:00:05,339 --> 01:00:07,319
um uh you know if it's their primary

1048
01:00:07,319 --> 01:00:09,900
source of income at retail the festival

1049
01:00:09,900 --> 01:00:13,920
we want to capture is particularly use

1050
01:00:13,920 --> 01:00:16,920
how do we determine that because it's

1051
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:18,660
one thing to say the primary you know

1052
01:00:18,660 --> 01:00:20,520
what their what their what they had to

1053
01:00:20,520 --> 01:00:23,099
stop primarily or what they you know but

1054
01:00:23,099 --> 01:00:24,780
like the primary source of retail they

1055
01:00:24,780 --> 01:00:26,670
would have to uh

1056
01:00:26,670 --> 01:00:28,440
[Music]

1057
01:00:28,440 --> 01:00:30,180
the kind of disclose those records to

1058
01:00:30,180 --> 01:00:31,500
the city so we can see okay you're

1059
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:34,859
selling you know 70 of your sales are

1060
01:00:34,859 --> 01:00:36,599
you know CBD or something like that

1061
01:00:36,599 --> 01:00:37,920
that's how we read the determination

1062
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:39,720
sure yeah it would be something that

1063
01:00:39,720 --> 01:00:40,920
would come up during the enforcement

1064
01:00:40,920 --> 01:00:43,559
process so if one of our officers had

1065
01:00:43,559 --> 01:00:45,180
determined that it appears that they

1066
01:00:45,180 --> 01:00:47,040
have their primary income Source would

1067
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,900
be one of those items you know they

1068
01:00:48,900 --> 01:00:50,400
would be ticketed as part of their

1069
01:00:50,400 --> 01:00:52,140
defense that they provide that

1070
01:00:52,140 --> 01:00:54,180
documentation to the city to show that

1071
01:00:54,180 --> 01:00:55,680
fact that they will be required to

1072
01:00:55,680 --> 01:00:57,720
register or if they go to notice a

1073
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,359
violation even without a ticket to court

1074
01:01:00,359 --> 01:01:02,040
they could provide that documentation to

1075
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:03,599
show that they would not be required to

1076
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:06,299
register same kind of the same thing no

1077
01:01:06,299 --> 01:01:08,579
appreciate it and any other comments

1078
01:01:08,579 --> 01:01:10,300
questions on this

1079
01:01:10,300 --> 01:01:24,289
[Music]

1080
01:01:24,299 --> 01:01:26,819
so third and uh final agenda item from

1081
01:01:26,819 --> 01:01:28,680
government operations is clearing the

1082
01:01:28,680 --> 01:01:30,240
sport New York State Clean Slate act

1083
01:01:30,240 --> 01:01:32,160
that's Mr Williams thank you so after

1084
01:01:32,160 --> 01:01:34,559
careful consideration and reflection on

1085
01:01:34,559 --> 01:01:36,780
the comments that were provided during

1086
01:01:36,780 --> 01:01:38,400
our previous council meeting if that was

1087
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:40,500
appropriate to bring this item back with

1088
01:01:40,500 --> 01:01:43,740
the full presence of the council I know

1089
01:01:43,740 --> 01:01:45,119
one of the comments that were made by

1090
01:01:45,119 --> 01:01:46,500
Miss tutorial one of the first thing

1091
01:01:46,500 --> 01:01:49,140
here tonight was with respect to just

1092
01:01:49,140 --> 01:01:51,420
languages and how this as a legislative

1093
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:53,400
item that's evolving the language could

1094
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:55,500
continue to change and I just wanted to

1095
01:01:55,500 --> 01:01:57,960
make it blindly clear putting forth this

1096
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:00,480
declaration of support would be into

1097
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,359
what this text currently is at this day

1098
01:02:03,359 --> 01:02:04,160
so

1099
01:02:04,160 --> 01:02:04,680
[Music]

1100
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:06,059
um

1101
01:02:06,059 --> 01:02:07,920
that's that's my comment I'd like to see

1102
01:02:07,920 --> 01:02:10,500
this Florida Lottery committee open to

1103
01:02:10,500 --> 01:02:12,599
discussion

1104
01:02:12,599 --> 01:02:16,440
any other comments concerns around that

1105
01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,920
you know

1106
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:23,760
so second who's in favor fine

1107
01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:30,650
operations

1108
01:02:30,660 --> 01:02:32,460
call to order finance and the fourth

1109
01:02:32,460 --> 01:02:34,619
item is the healthcare workers bonus

1110
01:02:34,619 --> 01:02:39,770
program Grant Chief Mourinho

1111
01:02:39,780 --> 01:03:04,150
foreign

1112
01:03:04,160 --> 01:03:08,940
healthcare workers bonus program

1113
01:03:08,940 --> 01:03:12,000
um it's really the state legislation it

1114
01:03:12,000 --> 01:03:16,200
was rolled out in August of 22.

1115
01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,339
where the uh for governor Coco

1116
01:03:19,339 --> 01:03:22,440
and everybody will go off decided to get

1117
01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:25,680
back to the healthcare workers and it's

1118
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:29,339
a program where people that work certain

1119
01:03:29,339 --> 01:03:32,280
times both a pandemic certain investing

1120
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:34,380
periods could receive up to three

1121
01:03:34,380 --> 01:03:36,000
thousand dollar bonus and there's all a

1122
01:03:36,000 --> 01:03:37,339
lot of

1123
01:03:37,339 --> 01:03:39,780
criteria that you have to be

1124
01:03:39,780 --> 01:03:42,480
Schenectady fire department meets the

1125
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:45,599
criteria to be an employer that offers

1126
01:03:45,599 --> 01:03:48,599
both doesn't offer that participates

1127
01:03:48,599 --> 01:03:51,359
here's the thing with this

1128
01:03:51,359 --> 01:03:53,940
um it's legislation you really got to do

1129
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:56,040
it if you don't do it you can choose not

1130
01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:57,599
to do it

1131
01:03:57,599 --> 01:03:59,339
um but then there's a thousand dollar

1132
01:03:59,339 --> 01:04:02,280
per employee required

1133
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:05,780
so I don't think you want to get a job

1134
01:04:05,780 --> 01:04:09,000
uh so what it is is there certain dozen

1135
01:04:09,000 --> 01:04:11,880
periods we've done all the groundwork

1136
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:15,119
um so we know who's going who's eligible

1137
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:17,880
for the fullness there are two vesting

1138
01:04:17,880 --> 01:04:19,559
periods that it'll be three thousand

1139
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:21,720
dollars per person the state once we get

1140
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,400
all the paperwork in the state will send

1141
01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,680
the money to the city and then be

1142
01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:31,370
distributed to all the members

1143
01:04:31,380 --> 01:04:33,540
so that's the presentation I don't know

1144
01:04:33,540 --> 01:04:34,980
if there are any questions in the

1145
01:04:34,980 --> 01:04:36,660
legislation I kind of spelled it out

1146
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:42,250
better questions

1147
01:04:42,260 --> 01:04:45,720
oh no I was just saying this um

1148
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,400
it seems like a really great thing and I

1149
01:04:47,400 --> 01:04:49,260
know that this uh

1150
01:04:49,260 --> 01:04:51,059
I think this was like maybe like the

1151
01:04:51,059 --> 01:04:52,500
second version of this that was supposed

1152
01:04:52,500 --> 01:04:53,700
to come out from the state if I remember

1153
01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:55,020
I'm not really sure

1154
01:04:55,020 --> 01:04:56,280
um but I just knew that um in the

1155
01:04:56,280 --> 01:04:58,099
earlier conversations after you know

1156
01:04:58,099 --> 01:05:00,540
during the pandemic

1157
01:05:00,540 --> 01:05:03,380
um you know us taking the opportunity to

1158
01:05:03,380 --> 01:05:05,220
demonstrate the value of our healthcare

1159
01:05:05,220 --> 01:05:06,480
workers I think we should do that almost

1160
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,520
every chance that we get

1161
01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,460
um and this is State money that's coming

1162
01:05:11,460 --> 01:05:12,960
into the city

1163
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,299
um so you know you know I think that

1164
01:05:15,299 --> 01:05:17,819
that's a really good thing

1165
01:05:17,819 --> 01:05:19,859
I did have a question and I did look

1166
01:05:19,859 --> 01:05:21,480
over at them so I appreciate you sending

1167
01:05:21,480 --> 01:05:22,799
the link and giving the opportunity to

1168
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:24,920
look at that and my question was about

1169
01:05:24,920 --> 01:05:28,559
uh employees who were hired like

1170
01:05:28,559 --> 01:05:30,599
um within that time not at the beginning

1171
01:05:30,599 --> 01:05:31,799
of the time framework within that time

1172
01:05:31,799 --> 01:05:33,359
frame and so

1173
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:36,059
um what would their opportunity to

1174
01:05:36,059 --> 01:05:37,740
benefit from this be that was a great

1175
01:05:37,740 --> 01:05:40,380
question and I did look into that

1176
01:05:40,380 --> 01:05:42,900
um those employees have different

1177
01:05:42,900 --> 01:05:46,260
investing periods too to

1178
01:05:46,260 --> 01:05:48,420
so they may not be able to participate

1179
01:05:48,420 --> 01:05:50,400
in the first one the second one that's

1180
01:05:50,400 --> 01:05:51,780
where the vast majority of the

1181
01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:54,599
membership will participate in but there

1182
01:05:54,599 --> 01:05:57,839
are I think a total of five right so so

1183
01:05:57,839 --> 01:05:59,579
we'll be watching that and when they

1184
01:05:59,579 --> 01:06:01,140
attend to those dressing periods we'll

1185
01:06:01,140 --> 01:06:02,310
be applying for them

1186
01:06:02,310 --> 01:06:03,780
[Music]

1187
01:06:03,780 --> 01:06:05,280
and there's no match for the city this

1188
01:06:05,280 --> 01:06:07,799
is all at State given the money thank

1189
01:06:07,799 --> 01:06:10,130
you and

1190
01:06:10,140 --> 01:06:12,000
see when this was rolled out there was a

1191
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:17,940
lot of confusion it took um originally they said the city

1192
01:06:17,940 --> 01:06:20,099
was going to have to first pay the money

1193
01:06:20,099 --> 01:06:22,200
and then be a reimbursed but that's not

1194
01:06:22,200 --> 01:06:23,280
the case

1195
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:26,099
oh great that's great yeah and that's

1196
01:06:26,099 --> 01:06:29,160
right there's a time frame uh that we

1197
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:31,859
have to we have to get all this stuff so

1198
01:06:31,859 --> 01:06:34,380
everything's got to be into this state

1199
01:06:34,380 --> 01:06:37,980
it's by March 2nd okay and um and then

1200
01:06:37,980 --> 01:06:40,380
we have to distribute the money here to

1201
01:06:40,380 --> 01:06:42,839
these out there we receive federal so

1202
01:06:42,839 --> 01:06:47,390
it's a neural time frame

1203
01:06:47,400 --> 01:06:49,680
go ahead please I want us a comment uh

1204
01:06:49,680 --> 01:06:51,980
covet has

1205
01:06:51,980 --> 01:06:53,280
[Music]

1206
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,559
significantly affected the workforce in

1207
01:06:55,559 --> 01:06:57,059
general and I think there's no other

1208
01:06:57,059 --> 01:06:58,559
industry

1209
01:06:58,559 --> 01:07:02,819
Health Care industry that has seen the trends negatively with keeping

1210
01:07:02,819 --> 01:07:05,579
workforces in place and a lot of

1211
01:07:05,579 --> 01:07:07,319
hospitals are struggling but I think

1212
01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:09,420
this program that I've been recipient of

1213
01:07:09,420 --> 01:07:11,039
and being a worker in the healthcare

1214
01:07:11,039 --> 01:07:14,579
industry a very small consideration for

1215
01:07:14,579 --> 01:07:16,140
the work that year firefighters have

1216
01:07:16,140 --> 01:07:18,180
done and continue to do on a continuous

1217
01:07:18,180 --> 01:07:20,160
basis so thank you for taking the

1218
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:21,839
ownership to submit this program and

1219
01:07:21,839 --> 01:07:23,940
make sure that your your staff will run

1220
01:07:23,940 --> 01:07:26,870
for it thank you

1221
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:28,619
Chief thank you for all the importance

1222
01:07:28,619 --> 01:07:30,720
of this program and always thank you for

1223
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:32,339
looking out for your department and your

1224
01:07:32,339 --> 01:07:33,859
startup and two senior Department

1225
01:07:33,859 --> 01:07:35,819
appreciate it

1226
01:07:35,819 --> 01:07:38,280
thank you if there's no other question I

1227
01:07:38,280 --> 01:07:40,799
may have a motion please for the

1228
01:07:40,799 --> 01:07:42,780
purposes of passing this

1229
01:07:42,780 --> 01:07:44,880
um there hasn't been I thought to Mr

1230
01:07:44,880 --> 01:07:46,680
Ferrari about this a budget line that's

1231
01:07:46,680 --> 01:07:48,960
been created for this so my suggestion

1232
01:07:48,960 --> 01:07:52,440
would be what gets passed would be

1233
01:07:52,440 --> 01:07:54,720
um creating the budget line for the

1234
01:07:54,720 --> 01:07:57,420
funds having been received for the

1235
01:07:57,420 --> 01:07:59,760
healthcare worker bonus program and

1236
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:01,619
authorizing the expenditure to those

1237
01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:04,500
employees who are eligible

1238
01:08:04,500 --> 01:08:07,260
to receive set funds pursue into the

1239
01:08:07,260 --> 01:08:10,020
terms of that that program

1240
01:08:10,020 --> 01:08:12,730
absolutely

1241
01:08:12,740 --> 01:08:19,140
second all in favor aye thank you again thank you

1242
01:08:19,140 --> 01:08:26,289
um

1243
01:08:26,299 --> 01:08:29,580
the next item is the 2023 capital budget

1244
01:08:29,580 --> 01:08:34,669
reappropriation Mr Ferrari

1245
01:08:34,679 --> 01:08:36,660
thank you president borderfield to the

1246
01:08:36,660 --> 01:08:38,580
Council of the mayor what we're doing

1247
01:08:38,580 --> 01:08:40,799
here in this legislation as you know as

1248
01:08:40,799 --> 01:08:43,259
a part of the 2023 adopted capital

1249
01:08:43,259 --> 01:08:45,779
budget there was a million dollars set

1250
01:08:45,779 --> 01:08:47,819
aside for the purchase of four Packers

1251
01:08:47,819 --> 01:08:49,140
of garbage trucks for the cities

1252
01:08:49,140 --> 01:08:50,880
connecting

1253
01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,600
um

1254
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,420
and as you know that we uh we don't go

1255
01:08:54,420 --> 01:08:56,219
out to ban these things so we won't get

1256
01:08:56,219 --> 01:08:59,100
the money until May of of this year and

1257
01:08:59,100 --> 01:09:00,900
Manufacturing delivery of the trucks

1258
01:09:00,900 --> 01:09:04,080
have taken 18 to 24 months so if we wait

1259
01:09:04,080 --> 01:09:06,000
a minute we won't get these trucks till

1260
01:09:06,000 --> 01:09:09,480
October 2024. uh we do this I think last

1261
01:09:09,480 --> 01:09:12,420
year too when we did we we're a plan is

1262
01:09:12,420 --> 01:09:14,040
to borrow the money from our fund

1263
01:09:14,040 --> 01:09:16,859
balance uh and you guys so that we

1264
01:09:16,859 --> 01:09:19,319
cannot put the purchase order in as soon

1265
01:09:19,319 --> 01:09:22,199
as possible and get the trucks delivered

1266
01:09:22,199 --> 01:09:24,060
uh you know before you know before

1267
01:09:24,060 --> 01:09:25,739
anybody else can that's the whole secret

1268
01:09:25,739 --> 01:09:28,380
of this thing and put the purchases in

1269
01:09:28,380 --> 01:09:30,480
so we can get an earlier delivery uh

1270
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:33,420
once we make the sale in um of May of

1271
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:35,279
this year we return the money back to

1272
01:09:35,279 --> 01:09:39,179
the general fund for that

1273
01:09:39,179 --> 01:09:42,169
questions

1274
01:09:42,179 --> 01:09:45,239
if there's a question so second all in

1275
01:09:45,239 --> 01:09:46,040
favor

1276
01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:49,560
the next item is the 2023 budget and

1277
01:09:49,560 --> 01:09:52,560
position and reappropriation yes uh this

1278
01:09:52,560 --> 01:09:55,080
is uh this is from the ID Department

1279
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,840
what we're looking to do here is uh uh

1280
01:09:57,840 --> 01:10:01,199
is to uh move the land administrator

1281
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:04,199
which is mostly uh software type guy and

1282
01:10:04,199 --> 01:10:07,020
what we're looking to do is uh is due to

1283
01:10:07,020 --> 01:10:09,120
the increase of like cyber threats and

1284
01:10:09,120 --> 01:10:11,040
greater need for communication between

1285
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:13,080
the city and departments especially now

1286
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:14,280
with the police department the new

1287
01:10:14,280 --> 01:10:17,880
accent accent system uh the ID

1288
01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:19,500
Department believe that they need a

1289
01:10:19,500 --> 01:10:21,840
higher level of Technology person in it

1290
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,199
so what we're looking to do is to remove

1291
01:10:25,199 --> 01:10:26,880
the land administrative position and

1292
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:29,460
increase it to a chief technology

1293
01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:31,860
officer which which has been approved by

1294
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:32,960
Civil Service

1295
01:10:32,960 --> 01:10:36,239
we've we've posted a job we've got some

1296
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:39,060
applications what we're looking to do is

1297
01:10:39,060 --> 01:10:42,120
uh uh create this Chief technology job

1298
01:10:42,120 --> 01:10:44,280
officer one of the things I want to note

1299
01:10:44,280 --> 01:10:45,840
is that there's no change in the salary

1300
01:10:45,840 --> 01:10:48,480
or the budget line but we're just just

1301
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:51,480
moving things around the new uh the new

1302
01:10:51,480 --> 01:10:54,060
technology officer and his biggest thing

1303
01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:56,580
will be a disaster recovery fault

1304
01:10:56,580 --> 01:10:59,760
tolerance Sonic managing Sonic walls

1305
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,340
managed in the Cisco Tyler networks

1306
01:11:02,340 --> 01:11:05,520
cyber security preparedness anti-spyware

1307
01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,280
and the list that goes on and on because

1308
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:10,620
of Marriott I think you know the number

1309
01:11:10,620 --> 01:11:12,300
of threats that we see every day is

1310
01:11:12,300 --> 01:11:15,780
increasing uh at a large number

1311
01:11:15,780 --> 01:11:18,719
so we're asking to to make this change

1312
01:11:18,719 --> 01:11:20,520
for us

1313
01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:22,980
go ahead please uh the rest of your

1314
01:11:22,980 --> 01:11:25,320
knowledge this change will be able to

1315
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,540
address any future I.T needs that the

1316
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:29,280
police department will have we're hoping

1317
01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:30,719
that's what we're hoping for uh you know

1318
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:32,880
I know what you have the specialized ad

1319
01:11:32,880 --> 01:11:35,100
of course uh you know we also hoping

1320
01:11:35,100 --> 01:11:37,980
that in the future also get more it guys

1321
01:11:37,980 --> 01:11:39,900
involved with that too

1322
01:11:39,900 --> 01:11:41,600
thank you thank you

1323
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:44,280
so is this a civil service position the

1324
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,760
um yes the Civil Service yep

1325
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:49,760
[Music]

1326
01:11:49,760 --> 01:11:52,620
thank you

1327
01:11:52,620 --> 01:11:55,219
any other questions

1328
01:11:55,219 --> 01:12:01,800
second all in favor all right thank you very much thank you the next

1329
01:12:01,800 --> 01:12:05,159
item and announcement for cdbg slash CV

1330
01:12:05,159 --> 01:12:09,669
small business grant is the other

1331
01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:11,940
good evening everyone

1332
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:14,520
um this request is related to the cdbg

1333
01:12:14,520 --> 01:12:16,320
CV funds that we received through the

1334
01:12:16,320 --> 01:12:18,540
cares act from the housing of the

1335
01:12:18,540 --> 01:12:19,500
Department of Housing and Urban

1336
01:12:19,500 --> 01:12:22,940
Development so we are requesting to

1337
01:12:22,940 --> 01:12:25,500
allocate two hundred thousand dollars

1338
01:12:25,500 --> 01:12:27,900
for small business grants so as part of

1339
01:12:27,900 --> 01:12:30,179
the economic recovery aspect of what we

1340
01:12:30,179 --> 01:12:32,340
are doing with that Grant you might

1341
01:12:32,340 --> 01:12:34,620
remember we've already funded this in

1342
01:12:34,620 --> 01:12:36,659
partnership with the Community Loan Fund

1343
01:12:36,659 --> 01:12:39,840
in the past the assisted over 64 local

1344
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:41,820
small businesses with grants of up to

1345
01:12:41,820 --> 01:12:44,880
ten thousand dollars we're finding that

1346
01:12:44,880 --> 01:12:46,920
many businesses still identify the

1347
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:49,860
effects of copin 19 as a as a barrier to

1348
01:12:49,860 --> 01:12:51,719
their success and have needs that have

1349
01:12:51,719 --> 01:12:54,360
you know shifted slightly since 2020 but

1350
01:12:54,360 --> 01:12:56,940
are still needs and impact from the

1351
01:12:56,940 --> 01:12:59,580
pandemic so we're basically just looking

1352
01:12:59,580 --> 01:13:00,600
for

1353
01:13:00,600 --> 01:13:02,280
um right now we're just looking for a

1354
01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:04,679
five-day public comment period

1355
01:13:04,679 --> 01:13:07,199
um to allocate this funding for the

1356
01:13:07,199 --> 01:13:09,719
small business assistance program it's a

1357
01:13:09,719 --> 01:13:11,580
five-day comment period because it's

1358
01:13:11,580 --> 01:13:13,860
cares act funding so it's emergency

1359
01:13:13,860 --> 01:13:16,320
funding essentially usually would be a

1360
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:18,300
30-day common period as you know when we

1361
01:13:18,300 --> 01:13:20,640
make changes to our regular HUD

1362
01:13:20,640 --> 01:13:22,440
allocations so this is just for the

1363
01:13:22,440 --> 01:13:23,760
comment period and then we will come

1364
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:26,640
back to you to ask to authorize the

1365
01:13:26,640 --> 01:13:28,140
mayor to enter a contract with the

1366
01:13:28,140 --> 01:13:31,250
community along one

1367
01:13:31,260 --> 01:13:34,260
go ahead please so in discussing this

1368
01:13:34,260 --> 01:13:36,179
um we talked about you know how you how

1369
01:13:36,179 --> 01:13:38,159
businesses know that it's available so

1370
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:39,780
it's just not businesses were just

1371
01:13:39,780 --> 01:13:42,420
really familiar with us and

1372
01:13:42,420 --> 01:13:44,040
um so can you talk a little bit about

1373
01:13:44,040 --> 01:13:45,480
how to make sure we do our public

1374
01:13:45,480 --> 01:13:47,040
Outreach to make sure small businesses

1375
01:13:47,040 --> 01:13:49,380
are aware yeah I mean the Community Loan

1376
01:13:49,380 --> 01:13:51,540
Fund has a large network of businesses

1377
01:13:51,540 --> 01:13:53,460
that they work with them and provide

1378
01:13:53,460 --> 01:13:55,140
training for and that's also part of

1379
01:13:55,140 --> 01:13:57,659
this program that businesses who

1380
01:13:57,659 --> 01:14:00,360
um work through the grant also have the

1381
01:14:00,360 --> 01:14:01,620
opportunity to attend different

1382
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:03,659
trainings and things that they offer and

1383
01:14:03,659 --> 01:14:05,460
then we also have a list of businesses

1384
01:14:05,460 --> 01:14:08,040
and a network that's building

1385
01:14:08,040 --> 01:14:09,659
um and we would yeah we would intend to

1386
01:14:09,659 --> 01:14:11,000
put it out in a lot of different

1387
01:14:11,000 --> 01:14:13,800
platforms whether it be a newspaper or

1388
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:16,800
you know social media to make it public

1389
01:14:16,800 --> 01:14:18,840
that you know that their systems is

1390
01:14:18,840 --> 01:14:21,060
available so we'll we will definitely

1391
01:14:21,060 --> 01:14:25,250
put in the newspaper yeah yep

1392
01:14:25,260 --> 01:14:28,020
question any other questions

1393
01:14:28,020 --> 01:14:30,900
motion to move forward is second all in

1394
01:14:30,900 --> 01:14:32,760
favor

1395
01:14:32,760 --> 01:14:35,340
the next item is authorization to enter

1396
01:14:35,340 --> 01:14:37,199
an agreement that this is the house for

1397
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:39,480
100 000 for neighborhood stabilization

1398
01:14:39,480 --> 01:14:43,320
rental rehab program Miss Diaz thank you

1399
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:46,320
yes along the same line CBG CD funds

1400
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,360
we're looking at our new

1401
01:14:48,360 --> 01:14:51,000
our neighbor area funding and this

1402
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:52,020
wasn't

1403
01:14:52,020 --> 01:14:54,179
um to a specific project at the time

1404
01:14:54,179 --> 01:14:55,739
that was just allocated and we are going

1405
01:14:55,739 --> 01:14:57,600
to see sort of what goes to the top as

1406
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:00,600
priorities one of the things that a lot

1407
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:01,980
of our housing Partners have been

1408
01:15:01,980 --> 01:15:03,780
expressing is the lack of availability

1409
01:15:03,780 --> 01:15:06,480
of affordable housing and some of the

1410
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,060
challenges and difficulties with rental

1411
01:15:09,060 --> 01:15:11,040
arrears that accrued over the course of

1412
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:16,800
the pandemic the eviction moratorium and some of the issues that are facing a

1413
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:18,900
lot of our our housing developers our

1414
01:15:18,900 --> 01:15:20,880
housing Partners like the Bethesda house

1415
01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:23,400
who is really working with our most

1416
01:15:23,400 --> 01:15:26,040
vulnerable populations so what this

1417
01:15:26,040 --> 01:15:28,380
proposal is is to allocate a hundred

1418
01:15:28,380 --> 01:15:30,840
thousand dollars in cdbg CB funding to

1419
01:15:30,840 --> 01:15:33,480
the Bethesda House of Schenectady to pre

1420
01:15:33,480 --> 01:15:35,820
and administer new affordable housing

1421
01:15:35,820 --> 01:15:38,400
landlord assistance program so this

1422
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:39,900
program would essentially support

1423
01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:42,900
landlords to address some of the issues

1424
01:15:42,900 --> 01:15:45,719
that prevent them from from placing

1425
01:15:45,719 --> 01:15:48,620
families and individuals into housing

1426
01:15:48,620 --> 01:15:52,020
there would be a set of criteria that

1427
01:15:52,020 --> 01:15:54,960
would be set up to ensure that the forms

1428
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:57,179
and required documentation

1429
01:15:57,179 --> 01:15:59,280
for the eligibility of the program or

1430
01:15:59,280 --> 01:16:01,080
met and was in you know in accordance

1431
01:16:01,080 --> 01:16:02,699
with the with the CB funding

1432
01:16:02,699 --> 01:16:04,739
unfortunately Kim Shepard couldn't be

1433
01:16:04,739 --> 01:16:07,140
here tonight she was Ill so she would

1434
01:16:07,140 --> 01:16:08,520
have been able to explain a little bit

1435
01:16:08,520 --> 01:16:10,860
better around some of the issues that

1436
01:16:10,860 --> 01:16:13,440
they're dealing with I know we just got

1437
01:16:13,440 --> 01:16:16,140
updated numbers from the coordinated

1438
01:16:16,140 --> 01:16:17,760
entry

1439
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,420
um through cares and there are currently

1440
01:16:20,420 --> 01:16:24,600
334 households and which includes 94

1441
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:26,820
families that are eligible for housing

1442
01:16:26,820 --> 01:16:30,360
assistance program and they're on the waiting list essentially

1443
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:32,460
we're just waiting for units to be

1444
01:16:32,460 --> 01:16:35,340
available for housing so there is this

1445
01:16:35,340 --> 01:16:38,340
is really um you know deals with housing

1446
01:16:38,340 --> 01:16:39,780
instability

1447
01:16:39,780 --> 01:16:41,699
um I think I included some of the

1448
01:16:41,699 --> 01:16:43,980
information vetted landlords will be

1449
01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:45,960
provided financial assistance this would

1450
01:16:45,960 --> 01:16:47,940
total no more than ten thousand dollars

1451
01:16:47,940 --> 01:16:48,920
per unit

1452
01:16:48,920 --> 01:16:51,360
it would come with a period of

1453
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,820
affordability in that agreement so this

1454
01:16:53,820 --> 01:16:56,400
would ensure that the assisted units

1455
01:16:56,400 --> 01:16:58,140
remain affordable and accessible to

1456
01:16:58,140 --> 01:17:01,920
individuals and families at or below 50

1457
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,560
percent of the area median income and

1458
01:17:04,560 --> 01:17:05,880
this would be for at least three years

1459
01:17:05,880 --> 01:17:08,280
that period of affordability would be

1460
01:17:08,280 --> 01:17:10,560
tracked so that we can ensure that you

1461
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:11,760
know it's it's serving the population

1462
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:16,610
that we would need it too

1463
01:17:16,620 --> 01:17:21,020
any other questions good so I'm just

1464
01:17:21,020 --> 01:17:24,360
it seems like if the the families that

1465
01:17:24,360 --> 01:17:25,679
we're speaking of that were around that

1466
01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:27,420
waiting list

1467
01:17:27,420 --> 01:17:30,780
I'm wondering if the resources will be

1468
01:17:30,780 --> 01:17:31,679
better

1469
01:17:31,679 --> 01:17:33,719
um allocated directly to their families

1470
01:17:33,719 --> 01:17:35,400
or because it seems like if we're

1471
01:17:35,400 --> 01:17:38,100
talking about landlords this is too

1472
01:17:38,100 --> 01:17:40,080
um

1473
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:42,360
assist landlords with their property in

1474
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:44,280
order to to is this thing to get into

1475
01:17:44,280 --> 01:17:45,600
the code or get it to a place where

1476
01:17:45,600 --> 01:17:47,100
families can

1477
01:17:47,100 --> 01:17:48,840
um you know live within it and then

1478
01:17:48,840 --> 01:17:51,540
safely or it's like yeah so the issue is

1479
01:17:51,540 --> 01:17:55,440
that so there's the codes there's the codes issues where we would

1480
01:17:55,440 --> 01:17:58,500
any money that we invest in we will make

1481
01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:01,440
sure that the the property is up to code

1482
01:18:01,440 --> 01:18:02,640
um so there's that issue but then

1483
01:18:02,640 --> 01:18:04,679
there's the housing quality standards

1484
01:18:04,679 --> 01:18:06,239
which through the Section 8 program

1485
01:18:06,239 --> 01:18:08,940
units have to meet in order to to house

1486
01:18:08,940 --> 01:18:11,820
anybody in the unit so sometimes it's

1487
01:18:11,820 --> 01:18:14,580
kind of minor repairs that need to be

1488
01:18:14,580 --> 01:18:17,040
made in order to make a unit available

1489
01:18:17,040 --> 01:18:18,480
and that's really what we're talking

1490
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:21,120
about because because of the housing

1491
01:18:21,120 --> 01:18:23,460
instability right now like there's a lot

1492
01:18:23,460 --> 01:18:25,140
of people with vouchers that just there

1493
01:18:25,140 --> 01:18:27,659
is literally no unit for them to go into

1494
01:18:27,659 --> 01:18:30,360
so we're we're trying to address it and

1495
01:18:30,360 --> 01:18:32,219
I think it's working with the landlord

1496
01:18:32,219 --> 01:18:35,040
specifically that work with Bethesda

1497
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:36,600
house and scap and the other housing

1498
01:18:36,600 --> 01:18:39,120
Partners so that they they know who they

1499
01:18:39,120 --> 01:18:39,900
are

1500
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:41,940
um and they're going to make sure that

1501
01:18:41,940 --> 01:18:46,020
they're vetted and that you know it's meeting the requirements that we

1502
01:18:46,020 --> 01:18:48,600
need to move to use the funding towards

1503
01:18:48,600 --> 01:18:50,699
um towards that effort of just getting

1504
01:18:50,699 --> 01:18:53,280
more units available I think a lot of um

1505
01:18:53,280 --> 01:18:55,260
you know with the eviction moratorium

1506
01:18:55,260 --> 01:18:57,179
and the rental of years that build up

1507
01:18:57,179 --> 01:18:59,940
during coven the landlords just don't

1508
01:18:59,940 --> 01:19:02,159
have the funding to kind of fix some of

1509
01:19:02,159 --> 01:19:05,040
these sometimes it's a minor thing

1510
01:19:05,040 --> 01:19:06,780
um and that's why this is only up to ten

1511
01:19:06,780 --> 01:19:09,060
thousand if the scope of work is larger

1512
01:19:09,060 --> 01:19:10,440
than that the landlord would have to

1513
01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:12,420
provide that match to actually pursue

1514
01:19:12,420 --> 01:19:13,620
the work

1515
01:19:13,620 --> 01:19:15,719
um so it's it's kind of trying to

1516
01:19:15,719 --> 01:19:18,060
instead of a incentivize making housing

1517
01:19:18,060 --> 01:19:19,500
available for the people who need it the

1518
01:19:19,500 --> 01:19:24,189
most in the city

1519
01:19:24,199 --> 01:19:27,120
my one question was just due to language

1520
01:19:27,120 --> 01:19:29,760
I think similar to what Mr Farley

1521
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:32,880
constantly identifies I think committee

1522
01:19:32,880 --> 01:19:34,980
and then showing a proven history of

1523
01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:37,980
renting to low income or low to moderate

1524
01:19:37,980 --> 01:19:39,600
families is important so would you be

1525
01:19:39,600 --> 01:19:42,719
open to adjusting the language yeah and

1526
01:19:42,719 --> 01:19:44,340
that is something that we'll be working

1527
01:19:44,340 --> 01:19:46,440
on like once this gets approved then we

1528
01:19:46,440 --> 01:19:48,060
really have to work on a contract and

1529
01:19:48,060 --> 01:19:50,280
finalize the criteria and that will be

1530
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:52,620
absolutely something that we would we

1531
01:19:52,620 --> 01:19:55,800
could incorporate and then secondly uh

1532
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:58,320
always trying to make sure we take care

1533
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:00,480
of the the city first I think that's a

1534
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:02,159
powerful narrative so would you be

1535
01:20:02,159 --> 01:20:05,120
opposed to having

1536
01:20:05,120 --> 01:20:07,620
homeowners prioritize using construction

1537
01:20:07,620 --> 01:20:10,679
agencies that originally within the city

1538
01:20:10,679 --> 01:20:12,840
so you might have noticed there was some

1539
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,760
language about that in here we did have

1540
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:17,280
the conversation about Bethesda house

1541
01:20:17,280 --> 01:20:19,980
working with um the affirmative action

1542
01:20:19,980 --> 01:20:21,659
office and the construction skills

1543
01:20:21,659 --> 01:20:24,120
program to kind of incorporate into

1544
01:20:24,120 --> 01:20:26,520
these repairs where possible so that is

1545
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:28,199
definitely something that has been in

1546
01:20:28,199 --> 01:20:30,179
discussion and will likely also be part

1547
01:20:30,179 --> 01:20:31,980
of the agreement once we get to that

1548
01:20:31,980 --> 01:20:34,260
point thank you

1549
01:20:34,260 --> 01:20:37,320
go ahead please so since we're assisting

1550
01:20:37,320 --> 01:20:39,900
landlords with these funds and I know

1551
01:20:39,900 --> 01:20:41,640
that your the language here says that

1552
01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:43,440
we'll keep them affordable but is there

1553
01:20:43,440 --> 01:20:44,760
anything in place

1554
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:46,380
um to say that they can't raise the rent

1555
01:20:46,380 --> 01:20:48,239
more than a certain percentage like you

1556
01:20:48,239 --> 01:20:49,500
know five percent of some other

1557
01:20:49,500 --> 01:20:51,179
municipalities do I know we can't we do

1558
01:20:51,179 --> 01:20:52,980
that can't do that with everything but

1559
01:20:52,980 --> 01:20:55,620
in terms of this funding because

1560
01:20:55,620 --> 01:20:56,820
um generally speaking when people

1561
01:20:56,820 --> 01:20:58,980
improve their property then they tend to

1562
01:20:58,980 --> 01:21:00,120
want to raise the rent because the

1563
01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:01,739
property has been improved but they're

1564
01:21:01,739 --> 01:21:03,000
improving the new property for the

1565
01:21:03,000 --> 01:21:05,219
benefits coming from the city so will

1566
01:21:05,219 --> 01:21:06,780
there be anything in place that says you

1567
01:21:06,780 --> 01:21:09,420
cannot raise the rent

1568
01:21:09,420 --> 01:21:10,920
um you know the numbers we've heard 200

1569
01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:13,620
or whatever uh and there or is there a

1570
01:21:13,620 --> 01:21:15,480
stipulation is can there be a

1571
01:21:15,480 --> 01:21:17,219
stipulation how much within a certain

1572
01:21:17,219 --> 01:21:19,080
time frame you cannot raise the rent so

1573
01:21:19,080 --> 01:21:20,280
much

1574
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:22,380
yeah I think that that's probably

1575
01:21:22,380 --> 01:21:25,199
already built into the agreements that

1576
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:26,580
with the subsidies that they're

1577
01:21:26,580 --> 01:21:28,260
currently that Bethesda house currently

1578
01:21:28,260 --> 01:21:30,840
uses with landlords I I would assume

1579
01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:32,520
that that's already we would we could

1580
01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:35,100
confirm that but I would think that that

1581
01:21:35,100 --> 01:21:37,020
would already be built into their

1582
01:21:37,020 --> 01:21:38,880
agreement with landlords when they're

1583
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,800
working with them but we can confirm

1584
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:43,020
that with um Bethesda yep all right

1585
01:21:43,020 --> 01:21:43,980
thank you

1586
01:21:43,980 --> 01:21:46,800
here sorry go ahead please let's send a

1587
01:21:46,800 --> 01:21:48,420
comment on that question uh that

1588
01:21:48,420 --> 01:21:50,280
President Porterfield brought up in my

1589
01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:51,960
experience in dealing with HUD in a

1590
01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,580
prior life if

1591
01:21:53,580 --> 01:21:56,820
um the units have to be are geared

1592
01:21:56,820 --> 01:21:59,840
towards affordability to a certain Ami

1593
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:04,260
which 50 50 there's an equation that has

1594
01:22:04,260 --> 01:22:07,020
to be done at the HUD level to determine

1595
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:09,420
based on the area median income what

1596
01:22:09,420 --> 01:22:11,340
affordability would be for rental prices

1597
01:22:11,340 --> 01:22:14,460
for those units so it's already baked

1598
01:22:14,460 --> 01:22:18,600
into the Ami for the Target groups

1599
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,900
so the rent can be it can't go up so

1600
01:22:21,900 --> 01:22:24,239
much it's always based on what the area

1601
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:27,360
made in immediate income is for the

1602
01:22:27,360 --> 01:22:29,580
particular group that's being targeted

1603
01:22:29,580 --> 01:22:33,649
50 Ami or below

1604
01:22:33,659 --> 01:22:35,699
go ahead and we'll just say that

1605
01:22:35,699 --> 01:22:38,219
um maybe it's been updated recently but

1606
01:22:38,219 --> 01:22:40,800
that formula that was using

1607
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:43,920
um for some time now uh I don't know if

1608
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:46,199
it really reflects you know someone's

1609
01:22:46,199 --> 01:22:50,820
true uh means quality in life as far as we look at that threshold I think

1610
01:22:50,820 --> 01:22:55,320
it was a little outdated um you know if

1611
01:22:55,320 --> 01:22:57,900
I remember correctly

1612
01:22:57,900 --> 01:22:59,880
um also

1613
01:22:59,880 --> 01:23:02,219
it was ten thousand dollars

1614
01:23:02,219 --> 01:23:06,540
per unit right so but not for up two

1615
01:23:06,540 --> 01:23:10,560
tenth of two again so I guess I'm always

1616
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:14,040
trying to think about you know when I

1617
01:23:14,040 --> 01:23:16,020
say you know landlord and you know it's

1618
01:23:16,020 --> 01:23:18,000
connected you're thinking about that you

1619
01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:21,860
know you know more mom and pop landlord

1620
01:23:21,860 --> 01:23:24,480
right right I mean that's you know I'm

1621
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:25,920
just trying to see that you know that

1622
01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:27,179
this is something that benefits that

1623
01:23:27,179 --> 01:23:29,340
because if it's up to ten thousand per

1624
01:23:29,340 --> 01:23:32,340
unit but not per landlord then I if I

1625
01:23:32,340 --> 01:23:35,880
have multiple units and you know I can

1626
01:23:35,880 --> 01:23:38,820
take up a lot of this resource right I

1627
01:23:38,820 --> 01:23:41,280
mean and I think and this is actually a

1628
01:23:41,280 --> 01:23:43,080
very limited amount of funding so we're

1629
01:23:43,080 --> 01:23:45,540
requesting 100 000 so that could be ten

1630
01:23:45,540 --> 01:23:46,920
properties a little more depending on

1631
01:23:46,920 --> 01:23:48,600
and it really is going to be a

1632
01:23:48,600 --> 01:23:50,580
case-by-case Solutions into looking in

1633
01:23:50,580 --> 01:23:52,500
that but no I I wouldn't think that it

1634
01:23:52,500 --> 01:23:54,120
would go to like one landlord with 10

1635
01:23:54,120 --> 01:23:56,940
units so that's not the intention

1636
01:23:56,940 --> 01:24:00,900
um and I also just want to clarify that you

1637
01:24:00,900 --> 01:24:02,280
know Bethesda house is really working

1638
01:24:02,280 --> 01:24:03,900
with the most vulnerable populations

1639
01:24:03,900 --> 01:24:05,940
these are this is specifically for

1640
01:24:05,940 --> 01:24:09,239
homeless prevention so it's not really I

1641
01:24:09,239 --> 01:24:12,970
mean that's the targeted population

1642
01:24:12,980 --> 01:24:15,239
I agree and appreciate that the

1643
01:24:15,239 --> 01:24:18,540
population I'm thinking more on the uh

1644
01:24:18,540 --> 01:24:20,580
landlord I'm just you know receiving of

1645
01:24:20,580 --> 01:24:22,140
these funds I just think about like you

1646
01:24:22,140 --> 01:24:24,179
know how do we make sure that we are

1647
01:24:24,179 --> 01:24:26,100
maximizing these type of programs

1648
01:24:26,100 --> 01:24:27,900
because anytime reality is anytime we're

1649
01:24:27,900 --> 01:24:30,719
working with systems um people who are

1650
01:24:30,719 --> 01:24:32,340
you know

1651
01:24:32,340 --> 01:24:33,920
uh you know

1652
01:24:33,920 --> 01:24:36,360
inequitable outcomes are produced due to

1653
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:38,280
the nature of the system itself right so

1654
01:24:38,280 --> 01:24:39,900
kind of to president porterfield's

1655
01:24:39,900 --> 01:24:42,060
earlier Point around people who are very

1656
01:24:42,060 --> 01:24:44,460
familiar with us as a city

1657
01:24:44,460 --> 01:24:47,340
um it's being big landlords who might be

1658
01:24:47,340 --> 01:24:49,440
very familiar with um

1659
01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:52,080
Bethesda housing or not just them but as

1660
01:24:52,080 --> 01:24:54,179
far as you know in the know around these

1661
01:24:54,179 --> 01:24:55,500
greens and how it's fine so I just want

1662
01:24:55,500 --> 01:24:57,600
to make sure that you know and I don't

1663
01:24:57,600 --> 01:24:58,860
think that that's necessarily a

1664
01:24:58,860 --> 01:25:00,300
conversation for you here and now but I

1665
01:25:00,300 --> 01:25:02,040
think it's important to note that we

1666
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,679
just want make sure that we are

1667
01:25:03,679 --> 01:25:07,040
maximizing this by uh how can people

1668
01:25:07,040 --> 01:25:09,960
yeah no that's that's definitely been

1669
01:25:09,960 --> 01:25:11,699
part of the discussion as well and I

1670
01:25:11,699 --> 01:25:12,480
think

1671
01:25:12,480 --> 01:25:16,440
it's um yeah I think it's going to be I

1672
01:25:16,440 --> 01:25:17,880
think that this is really responds until

1673
01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,540
a set of prices yes

1674
01:25:20,540 --> 01:25:24,060
and is trying to also address some of

1675
01:25:24,060 --> 01:25:25,679
the tension that's built up right

1676
01:25:25,679 --> 01:25:27,480
between and there's a lot of landlords

1677
01:25:27,480 --> 01:25:29,400
who don't want to work with you know

1678
01:25:29,400 --> 01:25:31,620
some of our housing providers because of

1679
01:25:31,620 --> 01:25:32,940
what happened in the last couple of

1680
01:25:32,940 --> 01:25:35,040
years and we really need to rebuild

1681
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:37,500
those relationships and do something

1682
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:39,480
that's actually going to produce results

1683
01:25:39,480 --> 01:25:41,520
for getting people housed in the city of

1684
01:25:41,520 --> 01:25:43,800
Schenectady so that's what this really

1685
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,560
is and it's not a lot of funding but

1686
01:25:46,560 --> 01:25:48,239
we're hoping that if it's successful and

1687
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:50,699
it's something that makes sense that and

1688
01:25:50,699 --> 01:25:53,699
it's still needed that we can look to

1689
01:25:53,699 --> 01:25:56,159
other resources to help support in the

1690
01:25:56,159 --> 01:25:59,100
future very well done thank you thank

1691
01:25:59,100 --> 01:26:00,080
you

1692
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:04,250
any other questions

1693
01:26:04,260 --> 01:26:18,129
foreign

1694
01:26:18,139 --> 01:26:21,179
yeah so this item was um we had an

1695
01:26:21,179 --> 01:26:23,699
application in our last year's uh annual

1696
01:26:23,699 --> 01:26:25,739
action plan and it was a proposal by the

1697
01:26:25,739 --> 01:26:27,239
Schenectady Guyanese Community Center

1698
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:29,699
for fifty thousand dollars although it

1699
01:26:29,699 --> 01:26:32,340
was something that I think you know was

1700
01:26:32,340 --> 01:26:34,800
supported they really just needed to do

1701
01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:36,659
a couple of things in order for us to be

1702
01:26:36,659 --> 01:26:40,080
able to fund the initiative with one of which was getting city council

1703
01:26:40,080 --> 01:26:43,500
approval so on January 18th this past

1704
01:26:43,500 --> 01:26:45,480
month 2023

1705
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:47,639
um thus the Planning Commission approved

1706
01:26:47,639 --> 01:26:50,520
project with that news we're we're

1707
01:26:50,520 --> 01:26:53,520
looking to move forward to allocate 50

1708
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,920
000 towards the community center and

1709
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,139
offer the mayor to enter an agreement

1710
01:26:58,139 --> 01:27:01,139
with the Douglas community center this

1711
01:27:01,139 --> 01:27:02,940
is to renovate their vegan building

1712
01:27:02,940 --> 01:27:06,360
that's at 1218 6th Ave and it would

1713
01:27:06,360 --> 01:27:09,360
provide a food pantry to Residents in

1714
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,639
Mount Pleasant and additionally provide

1715
01:27:11,639 --> 01:27:14,040
traditional cultural programming for the

1716
01:27:14,040 --> 01:27:15,659
community

1717
01:27:15,659 --> 01:27:18,060
questions is there any contingencies

1718
01:27:18,060 --> 01:27:20,699
attached to this

1719
01:27:20,699 --> 01:27:22,679
or something so I think there is a

1720
01:27:22,679 --> 01:27:25,020
budget attached as well

1721
01:27:25,020 --> 01:27:27,420
um which it shows kind of what they've

1722
01:27:27,420 --> 01:27:29,219
put in already so they've already done a

1723
01:27:29,219 --> 01:27:30,960
significant amount of work

1724
01:27:30,960 --> 01:27:33,600
um there's there's so you can see there

1725
01:27:33,600 --> 01:27:36,120
that we're basically contributing 50 000

1726
01:27:36,120 --> 01:27:39,600
to the remaining 115 000 project scope

1727
01:27:39,600 --> 01:27:43,370
to complete the construction

1728
01:27:43,380 --> 01:27:45,980
so the other funding is in place yes yep

1729
01:27:45,980 --> 01:27:47,699
thank you

1730
01:27:47,699 --> 01:27:50,040
any other questions

1731
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:54,199
some second all in favor all right

1732
01:27:54,199 --> 01:27:58,400
the next item is a mending resolution

1733
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:01,920
2022-214 to apply a one year time frame

1734
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,040
to Aquatic Center and Miracle on Craig

1735
01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:08,600
Street Harbor allocation

1736
01:28:08,600 --> 01:28:15,669
back in August of last year when we

1737
01:28:15,679 --> 01:28:18,659
there were two agencies that we didn't

1738
01:28:18,659 --> 01:28:20,699
apply near timeline

1739
01:28:20,699 --> 01:28:23,159
we discussed this several weeks ago and

1740
01:28:23,159 --> 01:28:25,980
we put it on hold because we wanted to

1741
01:28:25,980 --> 01:28:28,500
make sure that we looked for both our

1742
01:28:28,500 --> 01:28:30,420
locations and to make sure we're

1743
01:28:30,420 --> 01:28:33,060
capturing all the agency that didn't

1744
01:28:33,060 --> 01:28:34,860
have the timeline and these are the only

1745
01:28:34,860 --> 01:28:36,420
two agencies that didn't have a timeline

1746
01:28:36,420 --> 01:28:40,500
so the proposal proposal is to amend

1747
01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:43,139
this resolution and to apply a one year

1748
01:28:43,139 --> 01:28:47,040
Times line to these two agencies as was

1749
01:28:47,040 --> 01:28:48,719
previously discussed

1750
01:28:48,719 --> 01:28:53,030
since not only things

1751
01:28:53,040 --> 01:28:55,990
questions

1752
01:28:56,000 --> 01:29:00,659
seeing on morning second all in favor

1753
01:29:00,659 --> 01:29:02,580
aye thank you

1754
01:29:02,580 --> 01:29:04,739
the next item is a request authorization

1755
01:29:04,739 --> 01:29:07,199
for 1.5 million dollars in hard mode

1756
01:29:07,199 --> 01:29:10,320
funding for sidewalk Improvement

1757
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:11,900
I am a party

1758
01:29:11,900 --> 01:29:15,900
thank you Mr chairman again submitting

1759
01:29:15,900 --> 01:29:18,060
to the council request for some funding

1760
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:22,580
but the more I believe is a pragmatic

1761
01:29:22,580 --> 01:29:25,560
component of this request is to put a

1762
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:28,760
fixed dollar amount on

1763
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:32,820
a sidewalk Improvement so that a

1764
01:29:32,820 --> 01:29:36,600
homeowner knows what the number is uh

1765
01:29:36,600 --> 01:29:40,500
it's kicked around now for four years

1766
01:29:40,500 --> 01:29:45,540
maybe longer of doing these improvements

1767
01:29:45,540 --> 01:29:47,340
on the streets where residents would

1768
01:29:47,340 --> 01:29:50,520
petition come back to the city council

1769
01:29:50,520 --> 01:29:52,380
after they got a number of signatures

1770
01:29:52,380 --> 01:29:55,620
and then trying to come up with a

1771
01:29:55,620 --> 01:29:59,460
formula that reflects

1772
01:29:59,460 --> 01:30:00,840
something the city is going to

1773
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,100
contribute and there's something that's

1774
01:30:02,100 --> 01:30:03,719
going to be the responsibility of the

1775
01:30:03,719 --> 01:30:06,139
property owner

1776
01:30:06,139 --> 01:30:08,340
engineering spends a lot of time doing

1777
01:30:08,340 --> 01:30:11,280
calculations on these going back and

1778
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:13,440
forth everybody's is a little bit

1779
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:15,719
different uh

1780
01:30:15,719 --> 01:30:18,659
we end up wasting a lot of time and

1781
01:30:18,659 --> 01:30:22,139
effort on this and what I'm asking the

1782
01:30:22,139 --> 01:30:25,280
council to do is put in place

1783
01:30:25,280 --> 01:30:29,639
a fixed dollar amount per foot

1784
01:30:29,639 --> 01:30:33,120
on the Frontage of your sidewalk and

1785
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:35,219
then when we go out to bid you know some

1786
01:30:35,219 --> 01:30:36,659
are going to come in a little bit higher

1787
01:30:36,659 --> 01:30:38,760
some will be a little bit lower but the

1788
01:30:38,760 --> 01:30:42,659
city would pick up that variable cost

1789
01:30:42,659 --> 01:30:45,659
and the council would again set the

1790
01:30:45,659 --> 01:30:47,460
fixed dollar amount so the homeowner

1791
01:30:47,460 --> 01:30:51,659
would know if you have a 50 foot

1792
01:30:51,659 --> 01:30:54,000
Frontage if you have 100 foot front edge

1793
01:30:54,000 --> 01:30:58,020
what your fee is and again the past

1794
01:30:58,020 --> 01:31:00,120
practice has been when the work is done

1795
01:31:00,120 --> 01:31:03,060
the homeowner could either pay for it

1796
01:31:03,060 --> 01:31:06,120
in total really at the end of the year

1797
01:31:06,120 --> 01:31:08,960
with that first tax bill or it goes on

1798
01:31:08,960 --> 01:31:12,360
the tax bill for a period of time

1799
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,940
determined by the city council which I

1800
01:31:14,940 --> 01:31:17,639
think you've used 10 years for the past

1801
01:31:17,639 --> 01:31:21,560
their sidewalks could go easily 15 years

1802
01:31:21,560 --> 01:31:24,600
depending on making it affordable and I

1803
01:31:24,600 --> 01:31:27,120
think we've used the last one an

1804
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:31,040
interest rate of four percent but

1805
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,739
it's a good program there's a lot of

1806
01:31:34,739 --> 01:31:37,320
interest in it in the city but we've

1807
01:31:37,320 --> 01:31:39,420
gotten bogged down in the minutia of

1808
01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:41,760
going back and forth arguing about these

1809
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,659
let's say an arguing discussing

1810
01:31:44,659 --> 01:31:47,480
variations in

1811
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:49,860
what are minor

1812
01:31:49,860 --> 01:31:53,639
uh design features on each individual

1813
01:31:53,639 --> 01:31:56,040
property and I believe that's just

1814
01:31:56,040 --> 01:31:58,620
holding up the ability of some

1815
01:31:58,620 --> 01:32:00,540
neighborhoods or streets to move ahead

1816
01:32:00,540 --> 01:32:02,940
with this and so asking for the council

1817
01:32:02,940 --> 01:32:06,719
to come out uh send a message that

1818
01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:08,280
you're agreeable to a fixed dollar

1819
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:11,580
amount and move ahead so that we can

1820
01:32:11,580 --> 01:32:13,920
again take some of the streets that are

1821
01:32:13,920 --> 01:32:15,960
in the pipeline now and then also

1822
01:32:15,960 --> 01:32:17,600
encourage other

1823
01:32:17,600 --> 01:32:21,600
streets to petition and commit and work

1824
01:32:21,600 --> 01:32:27,169
with them to replace the sidewalks

1825
01:32:27,179 --> 01:32:31,080
go ahead please so for um the fixed recommendations

1826
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,320
fixed cost of 55 per linear foot

1827
01:32:34,320 --> 01:32:36,900
correct I think the ones that we've done

1828
01:32:36,900 --> 01:32:40,699
in the past have been just above 55

1829
01:32:40,699 --> 01:32:43,219
so it's

1830
01:32:43,219 --> 01:32:47,390
very close to that

1831
01:32:47,400 --> 01:32:48,020
um

1832
01:32:48,020 --> 01:32:56,050
you could do 49.99 it's a sale tonight

1833
01:32:56,060 --> 01:32:58,620
Mr wall can answer this question if not

1834
01:32:58,620 --> 01:32:59,760
so

1835
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:02,040
um is there a like can would you be able

1836
01:33:02,040 --> 01:33:03,540
to tell like an average cost of what it

1837
01:33:03,540 --> 01:33:05,280
would be for an average home or is it

1838
01:33:05,280 --> 01:33:07,800
just so different from all the homes and

1839
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:14,330
the properties in today's market yes

1840
01:33:14,340 --> 01:33:16,380
yeah in today's market what we're

1841
01:33:16,380 --> 01:33:17,880
looking at the camp and Earth's League

1842
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:19,440
the ones that we have done and then the

1843
01:33:19,440 --> 01:33:22,199
average cost of somewhere between 80 and

1844
01:33:22,199 --> 01:33:27,550
115 depending on the complications

1845
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:29,940
but if you didn't find one in your phone

1846
01:33:29,940 --> 01:33:31,460
okay

1847
01:33:31,460 --> 01:33:33,900
and then and so we're seeing the city we

1848
01:33:33,900 --> 01:33:36,179
cost it would cover 55 of them we would

1849
01:33:36,179 --> 01:33:39,000
do 55 per month

1850
01:33:39,000 --> 01:33:40,940
and

1851
01:33:40,940 --> 01:33:43,080
then I just want to make sure that what

1852
01:33:43,080 --> 01:33:45,239
we're doing is this would affect both

1853
01:33:45,239 --> 01:33:46,860
programs we have the program this would

1854
01:33:46,860 --> 01:33:48,000
be supplemental with that program

1855
01:33:48,000 --> 01:33:51,480
because we already have a capital fund

1856
01:33:51,480 --> 01:33:54,000
that is already created for sidewalks

1857
01:33:54,000 --> 01:33:56,040
and these two would work together then

1858
01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:59,149
okay

1859
01:33:59,159 --> 01:34:01,560
go ahead please so

1860
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,440
it seems like this is is a matter of

1861
01:34:04,440 --> 01:34:06,480
like just the way of the formula we've

1862
01:34:06,480 --> 01:34:09,120
been using as a city just this is way

1863
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,040
more efficient effective way to do this

1864
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,600
and get it done we're doing a very

1865
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:15,360
complicated way and coming out with

1866
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:20,219
about 55 dollars I'm saying or I should

1867
01:34:20,219 --> 01:34:21,420
say a little bit above or a little bit

1868
01:34:21,420 --> 01:34:25,860
of low you can just set a fixed out is

1869
01:34:25,860 --> 01:34:29,699
it 50 is it 55 something so that the

1870
01:34:29,699 --> 01:34:31,199
homeowner

1871
01:34:31,199 --> 01:34:33,300
they want their sidewalks done they want

1872
01:34:33,300 --> 01:34:36,900
to know what it's going to cost them and

1873
01:34:36,900 --> 01:34:39,659
adding 100 bucks here or taking

1874
01:34:39,659 --> 01:34:42,239
something off there it complicates it

1875
01:34:42,239 --> 01:34:44,940
and slows it down and I think it adds an

1876
01:34:44,940 --> 01:34:46,520
element of frustration

1877
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:50,340
for the homeowners

1878
01:34:50,340 --> 01:34:53,750
um answer

1879
01:34:53,760 --> 01:34:55,920
we have a million dollars set a size of

1880
01:34:55,920 --> 01:34:58,560
revolving one million views set aside

1881
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,179
it's basically this one by five little

1882
01:35:00,179 --> 01:35:01,560
company van deck or are we going to do

1883
01:35:01,560 --> 01:35:04,800
away with the Hamptons and again with

1884
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:08,820
the amount of need that is out there

1885
01:35:08,820 --> 01:35:12,120
believe that that it's a step in the

1886
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:13,920
right direction but hopefully we would

1887
01:35:13,920 --> 01:35:16,760
again use that and be coming back to you

1888
01:35:16,760 --> 01:35:19,260
seeking more funding in the future that

1889
01:35:19,260 --> 01:35:21,120
would get us you know the rate we've

1890
01:35:21,120 --> 01:35:22,260
been doing it

1891
01:35:22,260 --> 01:35:24,659
uh

1892
01:35:24,659 --> 01:35:26,340
be able to do it for a period of Time

1893
01:35:26,340 --> 01:35:29,219
begin to get a broader buy-in from

1894
01:35:29,219 --> 01:35:31,500
residents in the city

1895
01:35:31,500 --> 01:35:34,739
go ahead so I guess I want to see how I

1896
01:35:34,739 --> 01:35:37,500
can appreciate doing things in a way

1897
01:35:37,500 --> 01:35:39,120
that just makes sense for people and

1898
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:40,980
increases access unless they get it done

1899
01:35:40,980 --> 01:35:43,739
I guess my my question would be

1900
01:35:43,739 --> 01:35:45,480
um why are Harper funding is there any

1901
01:35:45,480 --> 01:35:48,890
other existing funding that

1902
01:35:48,900 --> 01:35:50,639
would uh

1903
01:35:50,639 --> 01:35:53,280
that we could use to do this

1904
01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:55,920
you know we have some that is previously

1905
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,380
bind the dealing mechanism would be

1906
01:35:58,380 --> 01:36:00,239
either

1907
01:36:00,239 --> 01:36:03,060
put in another budget or to

1908
01:36:03,060 --> 01:36:05,480
Bond it going forward

1909
01:36:05,480 --> 01:36:09,239
so the so the money that's there um in

1910
01:36:09,239 --> 01:36:13,560
the capital budget right now so so the money is so the money isn't the

1911
01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:15,420
problem the money is there

1912
01:36:15,420 --> 01:36:17,820
not not talking about the arbor money

1913
01:36:17,820 --> 01:36:19,620
the money is there it's just the process

1914
01:36:19,620 --> 01:36:23,280
is needs to be fixed and therefore

1915
01:36:23,280 --> 01:36:24,659
people can access the money that you're

1916
01:36:24,659 --> 01:36:27,600
saying to fix the process and then add

1917
01:36:27,600 --> 01:36:30,120
um to show that we're in fact serious

1918
01:36:30,120 --> 01:36:33,770
about addressing the problem

1919
01:36:33,780 --> 01:36:36,120
I'm picking up in more uh a larger

1920
01:36:36,120 --> 01:36:37,800
Shield because the previous one we did

1921
01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:39,620
at 30 percent somewhere around Europe

1922
01:36:39,620 --> 01:36:43,560
cities here on the second box of uh you

1923
01:36:43,560 --> 01:36:46,020
get it depending on yes so this would be

1924
01:36:46,020 --> 01:36:47,880
pretty much be upload towards like 50

1925
01:36:47,880 --> 01:36:50,760
percenters right so it just came good

1926
01:36:50,760 --> 01:36:52,620
for the hormones

1927
01:36:52,620 --> 01:36:54,900
any other question of this

1928
01:36:54,900 --> 01:36:58,820
is it's known as a column and definitely

1929
01:36:58,820 --> 01:37:01,679
identifying appropriate dollar amount to

1930
01:37:01,679 --> 01:37:03,540
the various Point helps to increase the

1931
01:37:03,540 --> 01:37:05,699
Streamline this process definitely

1932
01:37:05,699 --> 01:37:07,620
sidewalks are quality of like issue that

1933
01:37:07,620 --> 01:37:09,900
many schenectadians experience

1934
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:11,639
and I want to make sure that we're being

1935
01:37:11,639 --> 01:37:13,260
intentional as a council where if this

1936
01:37:13,260 --> 01:37:15,239
is funds that we're putting forth to

1937
01:37:15,239 --> 01:37:16,860
assist homeowners with making sure their

1938
01:37:16,860 --> 01:37:19,139
sidewalks are up kept I want to make

1939
01:37:19,139 --> 01:37:20,820
sure these aren't costs that are being

1940
01:37:20,820 --> 01:37:22,620
transferred to renters

1941
01:37:22,620 --> 01:37:24,540
so I don't know if there's any way of

1942
01:37:24,540 --> 01:37:26,340
not suggesting that I just want to make

1943
01:37:26,340 --> 01:37:29,340
sure as a council we're identifying some

1944
01:37:29,340 --> 01:37:32,340
indirect uh

1945
01:37:32,340 --> 01:37:35,219
issues that we could be transferring on

1946
01:37:35,219 --> 01:37:39,229
to internal directed community

1947
01:37:39,239 --> 01:37:41,520
I'm in favor

1948
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:43,199
making sure everyone knows that we're

1949
01:37:43,199 --> 01:37:45,659
taking into consideration all aspects of

1950
01:37:45,659 --> 01:37:50,420
what this how this can lead to them

1951
01:37:50,430 --> 01:37:52,620
[Music]

1952
01:37:52,620 --> 01:37:54,360
Mr Holton is the way that that can be

1953
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,520
addressed or is that if when you fix

1954
01:37:56,520 --> 01:37:57,659
your sidewalks that's whatever you want

1955
01:37:57,659 --> 01:37:59,100
to do you want to do with the rent it's

1956
01:37:59,100 --> 01:38:02,639
essentially outside of you know how

1957
01:38:02,639 --> 01:38:05,219
we would essentially be interfering with

1958
01:38:05,219 --> 01:38:07,080
you know the ability of a landlord to

1959
01:38:07,080 --> 01:38:09,480
negotiate a contract with a tenant in

1960
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:12,239
the form of police thank you

1961
01:38:12,239 --> 01:38:15,659
but this again originates

1962
01:38:15,659 --> 01:38:18,900
via a petition process by Property

1963
01:38:18,900 --> 01:38:21,900
Owners on the street

1964
01:38:21,900 --> 01:38:26,340
so people petitioned in one house happen

1965
01:38:26,340 --> 01:38:28,639
to be rental in their sidewalk is

1966
01:38:28,639 --> 01:38:33,440
non-compliant either they would be

1967
01:38:33,440 --> 01:38:36,840
incorporated in it or under today's code

1968
01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:41,100
we can go in and cite them and replace

1969
01:38:41,100 --> 01:38:43,820
the sidewalk and put it on their bill

1970
01:38:43,820 --> 01:38:46,560
their tax bill is a municipal voucher

1971
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:50,699
which in fact is a more expensive way to

1972
01:38:50,699 --> 01:38:53,100
do it and again is it individual

1973
01:38:53,100 --> 01:38:55,800
property owner fixing the sidewalk in

1974
01:38:55,800 --> 01:38:58,980
front of your property is more expensive

1975
01:38:58,980 --> 01:39:02,639
than when we're doing this as a major

1976
01:39:02,639 --> 01:39:05,159
Municipal project of replacing the whole

1977
01:39:05,159 --> 01:39:08,820
street we're getting better value in

1978
01:39:08,820 --> 01:39:12,239
terms of the quantities we're buying in

1979
01:39:12,239 --> 01:39:15,179
the end result adds more value to the

1980
01:39:15,179 --> 01:39:18,000
properties as a whole so I understand Mr

1981
01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,500
Williams concern but I believe that the

1982
01:39:22,500 --> 01:39:24,420
impact of this actually benefits people

1983
01:39:24,420 --> 01:39:27,500
to a higher level than some who

1984
01:39:27,500 --> 01:39:30,179
potentially might be inconvenienced by

1985
01:39:30,179 --> 01:39:36,350
it

1986
01:39:36,360 --> 01:39:39,900
any other questions are coming in

1987
01:39:39,900 --> 01:39:41,420
motion to move forward

1988
01:39:41,420 --> 01:39:44,400
second all in favor

1989
01:39:44,400 --> 01:39:47,330
aye

1990
01:39:47,340 --> 01:39:50,460
the next two item is our provocation for

1991
01:39:50,460 --> 01:39:53,580
stymet spark Improvement and Road Park

1992
01:39:53,580 --> 01:39:55,380
Improvement

1993
01:39:55,380 --> 01:39:58,380
back when we discussed our second

1994
01:39:58,380 --> 01:40:00,679
um sorry

1995
01:40:00,679 --> 01:40:04,679
we second allocation our publication we

1996
01:40:04,679 --> 01:40:07,800
question was raised as to why um money

1997
01:40:07,800 --> 01:40:09,480
was not set aside first time it's far

1998
01:40:09,480 --> 01:40:11,159
and it's probably brought us up and

1999
01:40:11,159 --> 01:40:13,139
drilled Park and was probably myself was

2000
01:40:13,139 --> 01:40:15,540
Porterfield and then we looked at it and

2001
01:40:15,540 --> 01:40:17,400
then we went back to the stakeholders

2002
01:40:17,400 --> 01:40:20,420
them and they provide us a

2003
01:40:20,420 --> 01:40:22,920
to-do lists of things what they need at

2004
01:40:22,920 --> 01:40:24,840
both parts I'm sure each one of you are

2005
01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:28,440
happy and things here so proposing based

2006
01:40:28,440 --> 01:40:31,380
on the estimates that was provided

2007
01:40:31,380 --> 01:40:34,320
we're asking or suggesting um to the

2008
01:40:34,320 --> 01:40:36,420
council my colleagues that we set aside

2009
01:40:36,420 --> 01:40:38,159
five hundred thousand dollars each so

2010
01:40:38,159 --> 01:40:41,880
same as part and Grove Park 500 000 and

2011
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:43,560
to leave that with the mayor and the

2012
01:40:43,560 --> 01:40:45,120
city staff to look at how they can work

2013
01:40:45,120 --> 01:40:48,000
with these two parks with all the

2014
01:40:48,000 --> 01:40:49,500
additional parks that already have

2015
01:40:49,500 --> 01:40:51,840
received funding and able to take care

2016
01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:53,400
of the basic needs of these two

2017
01:40:53,400 --> 01:40:55,139
operational parts

2018
01:40:55,139 --> 01:40:57,120
so with you here we're asking for that

2019
01:40:57,120 --> 01:40:59,159
amount of money to be set aside from our

2020
01:40:59,159 --> 01:41:02,880
location for these two parts

2021
01:41:02,880 --> 01:41:09,590
misfortable

2022
01:41:09,600 --> 01:41:12,360
so one of them came from Mr palomini

2023
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:15,239
where he's um there's funding that's

2024
01:41:15,239 --> 01:41:17,040
outlined

2025
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:18,199
for

2026
01:41:18,199 --> 01:41:20,460
Simon's park for a five thousand four

2027
01:41:20,460 --> 01:41:22,679
hundred four five thousand five hundred

2028
01:41:22,679 --> 01:41:25,080
thousand forty two dollars and so you

2029
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,360
can look through that um and then

2030
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:29,159
additionally something that came from

2031
01:41:29,159 --> 01:41:31,800
the grass Park Cricket Association who

2032
01:41:31,800 --> 01:41:34,260
is the group that uh it's mostly Cricket

2033
01:41:34,260 --> 01:41:36,480
played in grab Park I believe we all

2034
01:41:36,480 --> 01:41:38,940
know that so they've submitted some

2035
01:41:38,940 --> 01:41:40,440
information to what's actually back in

2036
01:41:40,440 --> 01:41:42,080
October that we're bringing forward now

2037
01:41:42,080 --> 01:41:45,480
as we're talking about these parts

2038
01:41:45,480 --> 01:41:47,520
to see what the things need to be done

2039
01:41:47,520 --> 01:41:49,860
there is no price tag attached to this

2040
01:41:49,860 --> 01:41:51,960
we would need to work with the

2041
01:41:51,960 --> 01:41:54,060
engineering department to see you know

2042
01:41:54,060 --> 01:41:55,619
what the price would be and all of that

2043
01:41:55,619 --> 01:41:57,659
however we wanted to be able to bring

2044
01:41:57,659 --> 01:41:59,540
this forward now because we are making

2045
01:41:59,540 --> 01:42:02,580
uh Investments and improvements in Parks

2046
01:42:02,580 --> 01:42:04,500
throughout the city wanted not to

2047
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:07,080
overlook any parks especially that

2048
01:42:07,080 --> 01:42:08,820
they've already come to us and master so

2049
01:42:08,820 --> 01:42:10,260
as we've been doing this and we're

2050
01:42:10,260 --> 01:42:11,340
getting to the season where people are

2051
01:42:11,340 --> 01:42:12,600
going to start wanting to use the park

2052
01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:14,400
we wanted to make sure we brought this

2053
01:42:14,400 --> 01:42:16,380
forward and started moving ahead on this

2054
01:42:16,380 --> 01:42:29,470
so that's why you're seeing this today

2055
01:42:29,480 --> 01:42:32,580
to help with some work out there

2056
01:42:32,580 --> 01:42:34,440
so I'm not sure if that is part of this

2057
01:42:34,440 --> 01:42:35,639
also here

2058
01:42:35,639 --> 01:42:37,520
no we can inquire everything

2059
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:40,020
so listen to set aside money and put

2060
01:42:40,020 --> 01:42:42,540
that there so that the city can start

2061
01:42:42,540 --> 01:42:44,219
moving forward to address some of these

2062
01:42:44,219 --> 01:42:51,830
concerns at these parks

2063
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:54,119
any other questions regarding setting

2064
01:42:54,119 --> 01:42:55,679
aside five hundred thousand dollars for

2065
01:42:55,679 --> 01:43:01,990
assignment spark 500 000 for Ground Park

2066
01:43:02,000 --> 01:43:04,679
so can we move them together and have

2067
01:43:04,679 --> 01:43:06,739
one resolution

2068
01:43:06,739 --> 01:43:09,840
you can certainly do that but you need

2069
01:43:09,840 --> 01:43:11,639
to do it separately as well yes I think

2070
01:43:11,639 --> 01:43:16,199
we should move separately because if we talked about the money from um sex

2071
01:43:16,199 --> 01:43:17,940
that we may not believe that funding

2072
01:43:17,940 --> 01:43:19,619
unless it will still come back that way

2073
01:43:19,619 --> 01:43:24,129
yeah

2074
01:43:24,139 --> 01:43:28,139
okay so we'll start this part all right

2075
01:43:28,139 --> 01:43:30,300
motion so it moves like our problems and

2076
01:43:30,300 --> 01:43:32,639
second all in favor

2077
01:43:32,639 --> 01:43:34,619
aye and a motion to move real far

2078
01:43:34,619 --> 01:43:38,880
allocation second all in favor

2079
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:41,100
the next item is allocating additional

2080
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:43,739
art of funding for the Central Park Pool

2081
01:43:43,739 --> 01:43:48,239
spray pad and facility Mr wall

2082
01:43:48,239 --> 01:43:52,870
thank you

2083
01:43:52,880 --> 01:43:57,420
I need another hand uh good evening so

2084
01:43:57,420 --> 01:43:59,760
what we have here is as you're aware of

2085
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:02,520
the city council appropriated 4.95

2086
01:44:02,520 --> 01:44:04,080
million dollars for the design and

2087
01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:07,440
construction of a pool in Central Park

2088
01:44:07,440 --> 01:44:11,159
um that project was designed wet bid and

2089
01:44:11,159 --> 01:44:14,340
we received the bids the bids were more

2090
01:44:14,340 --> 01:44:16,619
than the funding which was 4.95 I

2091
01:44:16,619 --> 01:44:19,860
provided you with a cost summary in your

2092
01:44:19,860 --> 01:44:23,400
package so the total cost of the project

2093
01:44:23,400 --> 01:44:25,500
considering all soft costs and money

2094
01:44:25,500 --> 01:44:28,020
spent to date is approximately 10.1

2095
01:44:28,020 --> 01:44:30,179
million dollars which is really unless

2096
01:44:30,179 --> 01:44:32,760
with a short poll of approximately 5.2

2097
01:44:32,760 --> 01:44:35,159
million dollars over the 4.95 that was

2098
01:44:35,159 --> 01:44:37,800
allocated so what we like to do is make

2099
01:44:37,800 --> 01:44:39,960
a request to allocate the additional

2100
01:44:39,960 --> 01:44:43,199
Harper funding so that we can award and

2101
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:55,310
constructible

2102
01:44:55,320 --> 01:44:58,970
who

2103
01:44:58,980 --> 01:45:01,800
why is it coming up now to additional

2104
01:45:01,800 --> 01:45:04,500
5.5 million dollars is it added warrant

2105
01:45:04,500 --> 01:45:07,860
scope of work or is it costs over a

2106
01:45:07,860 --> 01:45:11,400
um I would say that it's probably a

2107
01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:13,920
little of each thing as we started with

2108
01:45:13,920 --> 01:45:15,179
the project

2109
01:45:15,179 --> 01:45:16,800
um you know it was a Central Park Pool

2110
01:45:16,800 --> 01:45:19,320
had the location we worked to develop

2111
01:45:19,320 --> 01:45:22,199
the location back when we started as we

2112
01:45:22,199 --> 01:45:23,760
started the developable location we

2113
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,199
started to find the needs of the

2114
01:45:25,199 --> 01:45:27,540
facility so the facility that was there

2115
01:45:27,540 --> 01:45:29,580
previously was a tennis Stadium what a

2116
01:45:29,580 --> 01:45:30,780
lot of people didn't know as a tennis

2117
01:45:30,780 --> 01:45:33,060
Stadium did not have a sanitary line it

2118
01:45:33,060 --> 01:45:35,060
had actually septic tanks in the ground

2119
01:45:35,060 --> 01:45:37,679
so this is a public facility that we're

2120
01:45:37,679 --> 01:45:40,500
looking to use essentially from May 1st

2121
01:45:40,500 --> 01:45:43,800
to October 31st so things like sanitary

2122
01:45:43,800 --> 01:45:46,800
affirmative water line more robust

2123
01:45:46,800 --> 01:45:48,600
Electric System all those things needed

2124
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:51,239
to come in those were substantial we

2125
01:45:51,239 --> 01:45:52,260
started getting into the code

2126
01:45:52,260 --> 01:45:54,480
requirements for the pool parking we

2127
01:45:54,480 --> 01:45:56,639
were hoping to use Fair Avenue parking

2128
01:45:56,639 --> 01:45:58,260
requirements need to be closer to the

2129
01:45:58,260 --> 01:45:59,880
building for buses and things like that

2130
01:45:59,880 --> 01:46:03,420
to come than it was mechanical we have a

2131
01:46:03,420 --> 01:46:05,400
separate mechanical building we have a

2132
01:46:05,400 --> 01:46:07,380
splash pad because the pool can only be

2133
01:46:07,380 --> 01:46:09,900
from usually July and August and two

2134
01:46:09,900 --> 01:46:12,300
months so we wanted a facility that was

2135
01:46:12,300 --> 01:46:14,159
more readily available for people who

2136
01:46:14,159 --> 01:46:15,900
are maybe there for the tennis or for

2137
01:46:15,900 --> 01:46:17,219
some other events they're like the

2138
01:46:17,219 --> 01:46:20,400
baseball if it is a May season or later

2139
01:46:20,400 --> 01:46:21,900
on because we usually have our splash

2140
01:46:21,900 --> 01:46:25,139
pads open from Labor Day Memorial Day

2141
01:46:25,139 --> 01:46:28,920
past Labor Day and then as you see as we

2142
01:46:28,920 --> 01:46:30,960
got into it and we actually bit it the

2143
01:46:30,960 --> 01:46:32,760
cost that came back were substantially

2144
01:46:32,760 --> 01:46:34,800
higher you know we sat with our

2145
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,560
Consultants on that steel epoxies

2146
01:46:37,560 --> 01:46:39,780
materials a lot of things went up I

2147
01:46:39,780 --> 01:46:41,600
actually have a list of other things

2148
01:46:41,600 --> 01:46:44,880
regarding the utilities the supporting

2149
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,980
facilities the cap we did have some

2150
01:46:46,980 --> 01:46:48,900
issues with our apprenticeship program

2151
01:46:48,900 --> 01:46:51,420
and the specialty contractor mainly the

2152
01:46:51,420 --> 01:46:52,760
pool contractor

2153
01:46:52,760 --> 01:46:55,260
there were really only one pool

2154
01:46:55,260 --> 01:46:57,000
contractor who could meet our cap

2155
01:46:57,000 --> 01:46:59,840
requirement so we had that

2156
01:46:59,840 --> 01:47:03,179
also as we got into it the building is

2157
01:47:03,179 --> 01:47:05,040
built as a municipal building which is a

2158
01:47:05,040 --> 01:47:06,119
higher grade than even a commercial

2159
01:47:06,119 --> 01:47:08,340
building we have van

2160
01:47:08,340 --> 01:47:11,100
the whole building is CMU which is a

2161
01:47:11,100 --> 01:47:13,800
concrete block with a finish on it it

2162
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,400
also has steel trusses not wood trusses

2163
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,679
so it is a stronger Municipal Building

2164
01:47:19,679 --> 01:47:21,840
compared to maybe what a community

2165
01:47:21,840 --> 01:47:25,020
center built for their facilities so all

2166
01:47:25,020 --> 01:47:27,000
these things cumulative

2167
01:47:27,000 --> 01:47:29,580
tick tick tick added off to kind of what

2168
01:47:29,580 --> 01:47:32,280
we have today and you know in

2169
01:47:32,280 --> 01:47:34,320
discussions with the committee it was

2170
01:47:34,320 --> 01:47:36,540
you know we had estimates but the

2171
01:47:36,540 --> 01:47:38,040
estimates were always with large

2172
01:47:38,040 --> 01:47:39,780
asterisks as it could be this it could

2173
01:47:39,780 --> 01:47:41,820
be this so the thought was let's bid it

2174
01:47:41,820 --> 01:47:43,139
let's get a hard number of what this

2175
01:47:43,139 --> 01:47:45,540
would actually be in real dollars we

2176
01:47:45,540 --> 01:47:47,520
actually were concerned at one point

2177
01:47:47,520 --> 01:47:49,500
that no one would bend the pool because

2178
01:47:49,500 --> 01:47:51,840
no one was qualified we actually did a

2179
01:47:51,840 --> 01:47:54,719
lot of back and forth with contractors

2180
01:47:54,719 --> 01:47:56,699
Law Department purchasing at the time

2181
01:47:56,699 --> 01:47:58,920
and we actually were able to find one

2182
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,679
that was applicable to do it and uh and

2183
01:48:01,679 --> 01:48:03,659
that's kind of up to speed where we are

2184
01:48:03,659 --> 01:48:06,000
right now with the project but uh we

2185
01:48:06,000 --> 01:48:09,840
wish it was less but the number we feel

2186
01:48:09,840 --> 01:48:12,480
is in there also not to be forgotten is

2187
01:48:12,480 --> 01:48:14,159
the soft cost of that which are

2188
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:15,780
construction Administration and

2189
01:48:15,780 --> 01:48:17,699
construction inspection so those

2190
01:48:17,699 --> 01:48:19,500
typically run between 10 and 20 percent

2191
01:48:19,500 --> 01:48:21,900
that's why on your summaries I actually

2192
01:48:21,900 --> 01:48:23,280
provided you with the percent of

2193
01:48:23,280 --> 01:48:26,580
construction because that is like an

2194
01:48:26,580 --> 01:48:28,619
industry standard for all my federally

2195
01:48:28,619 --> 01:48:30,840
projects which we do I'm usually right

2196
01:48:30,840 --> 01:48:33,719
around 15 percent for design and 15 for

2197
01:48:33,719 --> 01:48:35,580
construction so I just wanted to show

2198
01:48:35,580 --> 01:48:37,340
that you know

2199
01:48:37,340 --> 01:48:40,139
Saratoga Associates their design fee was

2200
01:48:40,139 --> 01:48:42,420
essentially five percent and our other

2201
01:48:42,420 --> 01:48:44,940
fees are six and three percent so

2202
01:48:44,940 --> 01:48:47,699
they're all well under kind of what the

2203
01:48:47,699 --> 01:48:50,159
industry standard would be I also would

2204
01:48:50,159 --> 01:48:52,619
bring up the fact that I just am about

2205
01:48:52,619 --> 01:48:54,360
to let the King's Road Bridge Project

2206
01:48:54,360 --> 01:48:57,480
which is a bridge replacement and in

2207
01:48:57,480 --> 01:48:59,580
order to actually let that project I had

2208
01:48:59,580 --> 01:49:01,860
to seek approval and funds from the cdtc

2209
01:49:01,860 --> 01:49:03,480
committee which was an additional two

2210
01:49:03,480 --> 01:49:05,699
million dollars so that was a four

2211
01:49:05,699 --> 01:49:07,199
million dollar project and I needed

2212
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:09,179
additional two million dollars to be

2213
01:49:09,179 --> 01:49:11,460
able to do that that was approved last

2214
01:49:11,460 --> 01:49:12,960
week so we are moving forward with that

2215
01:49:12,960 --> 01:49:14,460
but that kind of puts you in the realm

2216
01:49:14,460 --> 01:49:17,159
of the market that we're in we were

2217
01:49:17,159 --> 01:49:18,860
fortunate in that case to have that

2218
01:49:18,860 --> 01:49:21,900
resource to go to for the bridge for

2219
01:49:21,900 --> 01:49:24,360
this with the pool we have our own

2220
01:49:24,360 --> 01:49:26,940
resources so with that I'll open it up

2221
01:49:26,940 --> 01:49:28,980
to questions and the marriage here

2222
01:49:28,980 --> 01:49:32,629
according to it

2223
01:49:32,639 --> 01:49:34,619
so you said that they're so you've

2224
01:49:34,619 --> 01:49:36,060
mentioned two things committee and then

2225
01:49:36,060 --> 01:49:37,320
you also said that some of these are

2226
01:49:37,320 --> 01:49:38,760
added things but are not a part of the

2227
01:49:38,760 --> 01:49:41,400
original plan yeah uh the original plan

2228
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:43,980
it was a the pool with the associated

2229
01:49:43,980 --> 01:49:45,659
pool house but as we went I mean the

2230
01:49:45,659 --> 01:49:47,040
splash pad was probably the one that

2231
01:49:47,040 --> 01:49:49,860
would be the ad because it was discussed

2232
01:49:49,860 --> 01:49:51,420
you know the pool season is so short

2233
01:49:51,420 --> 01:49:53,040
we're making these investments in the

2234
01:49:53,040 --> 01:49:55,020
splash pads and other Parks is now the

2235
01:49:55,020 --> 01:49:57,119
time to have one at Central Park and the

2236
01:49:57,119 --> 01:49:58,920
pool committee decided that now you know

2237
01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:01,440
now is the time to have a splash pattern

2238
01:50:01,440 --> 01:50:02,699
if it's going to be somewhere it's going

2239
01:50:02,699 --> 01:50:04,679
to be there we have the space if you've

2240
01:50:04,679 --> 01:50:06,420
been to the site it's quite large but

2241
01:50:06,420 --> 01:50:08,520
now that it's clear so that was a

2242
01:50:08,520 --> 01:50:11,340
decision by the committee to to do that

2243
01:50:11,340 --> 01:50:13,980
um because that's the biggest you know

2244
01:50:13,980 --> 01:50:16,860
another thing is we move the

2245
01:50:16,860 --> 01:50:19,739
mechanical room out from inside the main

2246
01:50:19,739 --> 01:50:21,900
building to a separate mechanical

2247
01:50:21,900 --> 01:50:23,699
building we thought that would be more

2248
01:50:23,699 --> 01:50:25,500
efficient to have everything you know so

2249
01:50:25,500 --> 01:50:27,360
that we're not integrating public and

2250
01:50:27,360 --> 01:50:29,699
everybody into there another decision

2251
01:50:29,699 --> 01:50:32,280
that was made was that

2252
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:36,000
the building should be more prominent to

2253
01:50:36,000 --> 01:50:39,300
the tennis courts so as you know the

2254
01:50:39,300 --> 01:50:41,580
tennis Association USTA uses those

2255
01:50:41,580 --> 01:50:44,159
tennis courts a group of 18 Courts for a

2256
01:50:44,159 --> 01:50:45,060
lot of their tournaments they bring

2257
01:50:45,060 --> 01:50:46,800
about 300 people in

2258
01:50:46,800 --> 01:50:50,040
um they rent a fleet of porta potties

2259
01:50:50,040 --> 01:50:52,619
for those events and they've actually

2260
01:50:52,619 --> 01:50:54,900
asked us to build them a facility we

2261
01:50:54,900 --> 01:50:56,760
actually had it designed by the lake

2262
01:50:56,760 --> 01:50:59,159
Freight Gilmore and bid but that

2263
01:50:59,159 --> 01:51:00,719
facility came in at over half a million

2264
01:51:00,719 --> 01:51:03,000
dollars in 2016. and we couldn't justify

2265
01:51:03,000 --> 01:51:05,280
the investment just the bathroom it was

2266
01:51:05,280 --> 01:51:08,100
just a bathroom with a roof so we we

2267
01:51:08,100 --> 01:51:09,659
scrapped it we said that it's too much

2268
01:51:09,659 --> 01:51:12,000
for bathrooms for the tennis court so

2269
01:51:12,000 --> 01:51:13,560
with this opportunity in this location

2270
01:51:13,560 --> 01:51:16,560
what we did was we decided okay well do

2271
01:51:16,560 --> 01:51:18,239
we really want to have this million

2272
01:51:18,239 --> 01:51:20,940
dollar bath house that we use July and

2273
01:51:20,940 --> 01:51:23,940
August so we hold it towards the tennis

2274
01:51:23,940 --> 01:51:26,219
courts so it was you know closer to the

2275
01:51:26,219 --> 01:51:28,619
road which was also ideal for security

2276
01:51:28,619 --> 01:51:31,560
purposes and now what we're doing is

2277
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:33,300
part of that other allocation of the

2278
01:51:33,300 --> 01:51:35,159
harp up outside defense Central Park

2279
01:51:35,159 --> 01:51:36,900
money we're going to improve the

2280
01:51:36,900 --> 01:51:38,520
intersection there with stop signs

2281
01:51:38,520 --> 01:51:40,560
crosswalks so that if people who are

2282
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:41,880
playing tennis want to use the

2283
01:51:41,880 --> 01:51:43,560
facilities along with people who are

2284
01:51:43,560 --> 01:51:45,780
running or using the baseball field or

2285
01:51:45,780 --> 01:51:48,300
other things we have that building now

2286
01:51:48,300 --> 01:51:50,340
there and we're looking to use it from

2287
01:51:50,340 --> 01:51:52,440
May to October similar to the other

2288
01:51:52,440 --> 01:51:53,880
buildings and that building will have

2289
01:51:53,880 --> 01:51:56,280
changing rooms bathrooms family

2290
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:58,739
bathrooms which are not available in the

2291
01:51:58,739 --> 01:52:00,179
other bathrooms and we know that family

2292
01:52:00,179 --> 01:52:01,800
bathrooms are a thing because we're

2293
01:52:01,800 --> 01:52:03,360
trying to move away from gender

2294
01:52:03,360 --> 01:52:05,219
discriminatory bathrooms so this

2295
01:52:05,219 --> 01:52:06,960
building will have three family

2296
01:52:06,960 --> 01:52:09,300
bathrooms available as well as the

2297
01:52:09,300 --> 01:52:11,940
standard male and female rooms so that

2298
01:52:11,940 --> 01:52:13,920
was a change because that actually made

2299
01:52:13,920 --> 01:52:15,540
the building a little bit bigger because

2300
01:52:15,540 --> 01:52:16,739
we wanted to make sure that we could

2301
01:52:16,739 --> 01:52:19,260
accommodate all these uses and use it

2302
01:52:19,260 --> 01:52:22,440
more through the year it has an entryway

2303
01:52:22,440 --> 01:52:24,780
it's it's a very nice building you know

2304
01:52:24,780 --> 01:52:26,580
we talked internally you know did we

2305
01:52:26,580 --> 01:52:28,619
want the building to look like a you

2306
01:52:28,619 --> 01:52:30,300
know it was always going to be made of

2307
01:52:30,300 --> 01:52:32,340
masonry there's always going to be a CMU

2308
01:52:32,340 --> 01:52:35,280
building but this is C you with a steel

2309
01:52:35,280 --> 01:52:37,860
truss it's not a CMU flight roof bunker

2310
01:52:37,860 --> 01:52:40,440
you know it's an attractive building

2311
01:52:40,440 --> 01:52:41,219
um

2312
01:52:41,219 --> 01:52:43,320
so that was those were some of the main

2313
01:52:43,320 --> 01:52:45,000
changes that led to this I don't think

2314
01:52:45,000 --> 01:52:46,380
we were going to get away with the

2315
01:52:46,380 --> 01:52:48,420
parking it was discussed originally to

2316
01:52:48,420 --> 01:52:50,580
really try to use Fair Avenue but even

2317
01:52:50,580 --> 01:52:52,860
if we push the facility all the way to

2318
01:52:52,860 --> 01:52:54,840
the back of the site Fair Avenue is

2319
01:52:54,840 --> 01:52:57,600
still down the slope and across the

2320
01:52:57,600 --> 01:52:59,460
field to get to there it was a little

2321
01:52:59,460 --> 01:53:01,020
far especially if we're thinking about

2322
01:53:01,020 --> 01:53:02,820
there's going to be we're hoping that

2323
01:53:02,820 --> 01:53:04,739
there's going to be swim meets and buses

2324
01:53:04,739 --> 01:53:06,659
and people uh coming and handicap

2325
01:53:06,659 --> 01:53:08,580
accessibility so that's why we decided

2326
01:53:08,580 --> 01:53:11,159
to pull it forward and that made the

2327
01:53:11,159 --> 01:53:13,320
parking lot we met with music Haven on a

2328
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,000
gold she liked the idea of the parking

2329
01:53:15,000 --> 01:53:17,880
lot if you saw the layout of the parking

2330
01:53:17,880 --> 01:53:19,920
lot we also have it set up so that we

2331
01:53:19,920 --> 01:53:23,340
can close if we needed to the road prior

2332
01:53:23,340 --> 01:53:25,080
to music Haven and use the parking lot

2333
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,960
as a turnaround right now if you were to

2334
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:31,080
go down to music Haven there's a just a

2335
01:53:31,080 --> 01:53:32,699
terrible not a roundabout it's just a

2336
01:53:32,699 --> 01:53:34,619
dead end so people go down there and

2337
01:53:34,619 --> 01:53:37,679
they just stop so this parking lot was

2338
01:53:37,679 --> 01:53:39,239
thought that okay if you put a fence

2339
01:53:39,239 --> 01:53:40,860
here and we put it here you can actually

2340
01:53:40,860 --> 01:53:42,540
turn around and we wouldn't have to have

2341
01:53:42,540 --> 01:53:44,880
people go down towards the Pavilion in

2342
01:53:44,880 --> 01:53:47,820
that area to kind of stop the congestion

2343
01:53:47,820 --> 01:53:50,400
so these are you know a lot of different

2344
01:53:50,400 --> 01:53:52,020
discussions that were had with the

2345
01:53:52,020 --> 01:53:53,699
committee we had a great committee we

2346
01:53:53,699 --> 01:53:57,239
had members from music Haven and we had

2347
01:53:57,239 --> 01:53:59,639
you know a diamond and we had uh Pam

2348
01:53:59,639 --> 01:54:01,619
Perlman with the greenhouse and the Rose

2349
01:54:01,619 --> 01:54:03,960
Garden also so it was that it was a good

2350
01:54:03,960 --> 01:54:06,900
committee but you know as the the

2351
01:54:06,900 --> 01:54:08,820
desires and the talks and how this is

2352
01:54:08,820 --> 01:54:18,150
going to integrate into the park we did see the costs encryption

2353
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:22,450
[Applause]

2354
01:54:22,460 --> 01:54:25,619
so I appreciate the

2355
01:54:25,619 --> 01:54:27,900
um background so definitely I can

2356
01:54:27,900 --> 01:54:29,340
understand that the changes were

2357
01:54:29,340 --> 01:54:31,500
warranted in scope I think for me

2358
01:54:31,500 --> 01:54:33,480
personally it changes my understanding

2359
01:54:33,480 --> 01:54:35,460
of how this was going to be a phased in

2360
01:54:35,460 --> 01:54:37,020
approach I thought this is something

2361
01:54:37,020 --> 01:54:38,820
that we were going to gradually step

2362
01:54:38,820 --> 01:54:41,780
into and I apologize for my

2363
01:54:41,780 --> 01:54:44,219
misunderstanding that that was such but

2364
01:54:44,219 --> 01:54:46,020
I thought this was going to be a good

2365
01:54:46,020 --> 01:54:49,560
year so in my understanding of

2366
01:54:49,560 --> 01:54:52,679
advocating or communicating this to the

2367
01:54:52,679 --> 01:54:53,820
entire community that we are now

2368
01:54:53,820 --> 01:54:56,100
investing

2369
01:54:56,100 --> 01:54:58,679
hundred percent more dollars into this

2370
01:54:58,679 --> 01:55:01,080
one area of the city and understandably

2371
01:55:01,080 --> 01:55:02,100
this is

2372
01:55:02,100 --> 01:55:04,440
the conjula of Schenectady and we all

2373
01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:06,420
agree on that are there any other

2374
01:55:06,420 --> 01:55:09,540
funding methods to support this and the

2375
01:55:09,540 --> 01:55:11,520
only reason I want to ask is if this

2376
01:55:11,520 --> 01:55:14,340
truly is the opportunity moment to put

2377
01:55:14,340 --> 01:55:16,020
forward all these dreams because we now

2378
01:55:16,020 --> 01:55:18,540
have this money available are we

2379
01:55:18,540 --> 01:55:20,820
evaluating alternatives

2380
01:55:20,820 --> 01:55:22,739
before just saying yes because the money

2381
01:55:22,739 --> 01:55:25,669
is available now

2382
01:55:25,679 --> 01:55:28,500
it always look to use arpa money for

2383
01:55:28,500 --> 01:55:30,360
this project and again we are under

2384
01:55:30,360 --> 01:55:34,739
pressure to close the existing swimming

2385
01:55:34,739 --> 01:55:37,920
facility because it just does not need

2386
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:42,179
current code issues we were able to keep

2387
01:55:42,179 --> 01:55:46,260
it open in 22 working with the county

2388
01:55:46,260 --> 01:55:47,480
and

2389
01:55:47,480 --> 01:55:51,960
more attendant monitoring this timeline

2390
01:55:51,960 --> 01:55:54,900
will probably not get it open as early

2391
01:55:54,900 --> 01:55:56,699
as I would like even though until we

2392
01:55:56,699 --> 01:55:58,980
award the contract sit down with the

2393
01:55:58,980 --> 01:56:01,380
contractors who won't have a definite

2394
01:56:01,380 --> 01:56:04,679
timeline but the option becomes we're

2395
01:56:04,679 --> 01:56:06,659
going to have to close that other

2396
01:56:06,659 --> 01:56:10,739
sewing facility in want to get this open

2397
01:56:10,739 --> 01:56:14,460
as quick as we can get it built and have

2398
01:56:14,460 --> 01:56:17,540
it as a facility that reflects

2399
01:56:17,540 --> 01:56:20,520
the quality that we're putting in a

2400
01:56:20,520 --> 01:56:23,159
diamond to music Haven and golf course

2401
01:56:23,159 --> 01:56:24,800
the Rose Garden

2402
01:56:24,800 --> 01:56:28,320
this will fit in there and it is part of

2403
01:56:28,320 --> 01:56:35,930
The Branding of Schenectady

2404
01:56:35,940 --> 01:56:38,940
the previous issue with the garbage

2405
01:56:38,940 --> 01:56:40,800
schedules I think it'd be important to

2406
01:56:40,800 --> 01:56:42,420
kind of take a take a pause and make

2407
01:56:42,420 --> 01:56:44,400
sure we make make sure we're considering

2408
01:56:44,400 --> 01:56:47,219
all of their aspects of how we can

2409
01:56:47,219 --> 01:56:49,380
financially fund this project but also

2410
01:56:49,380 --> 01:56:51,179
it's giving us an opportunity to remind

2411
01:56:51,179 --> 01:56:53,280
the scantalians that we are putting

2412
01:56:53,280 --> 01:56:54,659
splash pads in other areas of the

2413
01:56:54,659 --> 01:56:57,179
community so although this would not be

2414
01:56:57,179 --> 01:56:58,860
a resource available at Central Park

2415
01:56:58,860 --> 01:57:03,960
there are other entertainment areas

2416
01:57:03,960 --> 01:57:05,940
for them to be able to

2417
01:57:05,940 --> 01:57:13,070
have recreational water water fun

2418
01:57:13,080 --> 01:57:14,820
a question of

2419
01:57:14,820 --> 01:57:18,000
I don't know where are any updates on

2420
01:57:18,000 --> 01:57:20,460
the federal infrastructure funding

2421
01:57:20,460 --> 01:57:25,550
that we were supposed to receive

2422
01:57:25,560 --> 01:57:27,840
those are on an application basis either

2423
01:57:27,840 --> 01:57:30,300
competitive or

2424
01:57:30,300 --> 01:57:32,219
going through the state we have not

2425
01:57:32,219 --> 01:57:35,580
received any additional funding at this

2426
01:57:35,580 --> 01:57:36,659
point

2427
01:57:36,659 --> 01:57:37,699
thanks

2428
01:57:37,699 --> 01:57:40,260
so we we submitted an application but

2429
01:57:40,260 --> 01:57:43,199
nothing yet no some are based on

2430
01:57:43,199 --> 01:57:45,780
application so you have to apply for a

2431
01:57:45,780 --> 01:57:47,639
water funding you have to apply for

2432
01:57:47,639 --> 01:57:49,980
Broadband you have to apply for

2433
01:57:49,980 --> 01:57:52,619
different areas so we have is there

2434
01:57:52,619 --> 01:57:54,119
something open where we could apply for

2435
01:57:54,119 --> 01:57:55,920
a water and have we

2436
01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:58,679
for water well you said water funds so

2437
01:57:58,679 --> 01:58:01,199
if you reduce water and sewer primarily

2438
01:58:01,199 --> 01:58:02,580
it would not

2439
01:58:02,580 --> 01:58:08,149
well at this point for a swimming pool

2440
01:58:08,159 --> 01:58:10,739
okay even if we have to put more um you

2441
01:58:10,739 --> 01:58:12,719
said we haven't divert what we have to

2442
01:58:12,719 --> 01:58:14,760
put in pipes now there are some things

2443
01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,679
some utilities we have to put in yes but

2444
01:58:16,679 --> 01:58:18,060
that wouldn't come under that that's

2445
01:58:18,060 --> 01:58:20,040
what you say

2446
01:58:20,040 --> 01:58:22,679
those components have not been looked at

2447
01:58:22,679 --> 01:58:25,380
for other funding yeah I think if we

2448
01:58:25,380 --> 01:58:27,179
I don't think it would be the right

2449
01:58:27,179 --> 01:58:29,219
application of that grant for this

2450
01:58:29,219 --> 01:58:32,280
particular project that is more for I

2451
01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:34,260
would say large distribution or a

2452
01:58:34,260 --> 01:58:37,500
Mainline these are essentially larger

2453
01:58:37,500 --> 01:58:39,780
style laterals like you would have in a

2454
01:58:39,780 --> 01:58:41,820
house they're not you know water mains

2455
01:58:41,820 --> 01:58:43,800
so if we were going to go through the

2456
01:58:43,800 --> 01:58:45,599
effort of filling out an application for

2457
01:58:45,599 --> 01:58:47,400
that you know like for instance I know

2458
01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:48,480
that they try to do one for the water

2459
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:50,219
wells you know that's almost a

2460
01:58:50,219 --> 01:58:51,840
multi-million dollar project so that's

2461
01:58:51,840 --> 01:58:53,580
worthy of that kind of an effort because

2462
01:58:53,580 --> 01:58:56,460
it is competitive funding this kind of

2463
01:58:56,460 --> 01:58:58,260
thing would be I don't think is

2464
01:58:58,260 --> 01:59:00,540
competitive if you're doing it in a in a

2465
01:59:00,540 --> 01:59:03,060
solicitation like that

2466
01:59:03,060 --> 01:59:05,520
my further question is there's been talk

2467
01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:07,080
and there was an application that was

2468
01:59:07,080 --> 01:59:08,880
submitted for doing something at the

2469
01:59:08,880 --> 01:59:11,340
casino which is in the park but this

2470
01:59:11,340 --> 01:59:12,960
none of this includes trying to do

2471
01:59:12,960 --> 01:59:14,099
anything

2472
01:59:14,099 --> 01:59:16,500
to that for that building now

2473
01:59:16,500 --> 01:59:19,199
correct it does not and we're going to

2474
01:59:19,199 --> 01:59:23,880
meet with the group uh

2475
01:59:23,880 --> 01:59:25,679
I think Mr Kerry's talking about coming

2476
01:59:25,679 --> 01:59:27,840
in next week

2477
01:59:27,840 --> 01:59:29,940
where they've modified their proposal

2478
01:59:29,940 --> 01:59:32,280
and concept and I'm not aware of what

2479
01:59:32,280 --> 01:59:34,619
details they have

2480
01:59:34,619 --> 01:59:37,380
look forward to meeting with them

2481
01:59:37,380 --> 01:59:39,980
I know there was another

2482
01:59:39,980 --> 01:59:42,060
uh there were some other community

2483
01:59:42,060 --> 01:59:45,360
interest in that uh building

2484
01:59:45,360 --> 01:59:46,139
um

2485
01:59:46,139 --> 01:59:48,239
that there's a possibility of maybe a

2486
01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:49,679
collaborative effort so I just want to

2487
01:59:49,679 --> 01:59:51,659
make sure that we make sure that we

2488
01:59:51,659 --> 01:59:54,900
extend that invitation or you know

2489
01:59:54,900 --> 01:59:57,980
and I think they're open to that yeah

2490
01:59:57,980 --> 02:00:00,060
to put

2491
02:00:00,060 --> 02:00:02,099
more utilization in there gives

2492
02:00:02,099 --> 02:00:05,040
everybody benefits off you know each

2493
02:00:05,040 --> 02:00:09,370
other's involvement in time here

2494
02:00:09,380 --> 02:00:12,480
we've we've investigated that facility

2495
02:00:12,480 --> 02:00:15,300
years ago it will need significant

2496
02:00:15,300 --> 02:00:18,360
improvements so if we decide to do those

2497
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:19,679
improvements for one of the association

2498
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:22,679
you'll most likely see me in the next

2499
02:00:22,679 --> 02:00:25,260
Capital requests here with that in a

2500
02:00:25,260 --> 02:00:27,960
facility request because it will be

2501
02:00:27,960 --> 02:00:29,699
significant but it's worthy it will

2502
02:00:29,699 --> 02:00:32,400
restore and put it what it will be

2503
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:44,709
significant

2504
02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:48,719
5.5 million already for this pool ad

2505
02:00:48,719 --> 02:00:50,420
project

2506
02:00:50,420 --> 02:00:53,639
I I have two Capital codes set up that

2507
02:00:53,639 --> 02:00:57,000
I've been using for 4.95 million so if

2508
02:00:57,000 --> 02:00:58,800
there is an additional one I'm

2509
02:00:58,800 --> 02:01:00,900
I I missed it we haven't needed it we

2510
02:01:00,900 --> 02:01:02,760
have the money but I can I can look I

2511
02:01:02,760 --> 02:01:04,380
don't believe we have that so you're

2512
02:01:04,380 --> 02:01:09,950
thinking there's another 500 yes

2513
02:01:09,960 --> 02:01:11,280
correct

2514
02:01:11,280 --> 02:01:15,060
about 500 000 yeah is it 5.5 million set

2515
02:01:15,060 --> 02:01:17,340
aside for an additional we originally

2516
02:01:17,340 --> 02:01:22,260
4.5 of them has about a million dollars

2517
02:01:22,260 --> 02:01:26,360
it was 450 000 4.9 right

2518
02:01:26,360 --> 02:01:31,380
I I may be wrong I had my codes as 404.5

2519
02:01:31,380 --> 02:01:35,540
million remaining out of 4.95 because

2520
02:01:35,540 --> 02:01:39,239
495 was for the design so or 450 for the

2521
02:01:39,239 --> 02:01:40,980
design but I could have it if it's there

2522
02:01:40,980 --> 02:01:42,960
it's fine there's two codes that are set

2523
02:01:42,960 --> 02:01:45,179
up for the project you might want to

2524
02:01:45,179 --> 02:01:46,920
look into that because I think um we did

2525
02:01:46,920 --> 02:01:49,440
pass in one of the allocations an

2526
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,540
additional an additional one million on

2527
02:01:51,540 --> 02:01:54,420
demands request to set aside now there

2528
02:01:54,420 --> 02:01:58,980
was an additional one million

2529
02:01:58,980 --> 02:02:02,880
dollars pass for arpa for what we what

2530
02:02:02,880 --> 02:02:05,159
we staff Call outside the fence

2531
02:02:05,159 --> 02:02:07,619
so this project is what we're calling

2532
02:02:07,619 --> 02:02:09,599
the inside defense project which is the

2533
02:02:09,599 --> 02:02:12,119
pool facilities the outside defense

2534
02:02:12,119 --> 02:02:15,000
project is for the intersection the

2535
02:02:15,000 --> 02:02:17,159
parking areas you're going to develop a

2536
02:02:17,159 --> 02:02:19,320
path between Fair Avenue and music Haven

2537
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:22,380
with white it's for the improvements to

2538
02:02:22,380 --> 02:02:26,219
bring people to the park safer so you

2539
02:02:26,219 --> 02:02:28,739
are correct that we did pass that but

2540
02:02:28,739 --> 02:02:31,080
that is while it's related to the pool

2541
02:02:31,080 --> 02:02:33,420
it's also more for the general

2542
02:02:33,420 --> 02:02:35,520
improvements of the Park yeah because it

2543
02:02:35,520 --> 02:02:37,440
I'm looking at my document always has a

2544
02:02:37,440 --> 02:02:39,960
Central Park Pool General site one

2545
02:02:39,960 --> 02:02:42,540
million dollars on top of the 4.5

2546
02:02:42,540 --> 02:02:45,360
million correct that one getting it

2547
02:02:45,360 --> 02:02:47,699
though is you are correct but the

2548
02:02:47,699 --> 02:02:50,639
intention of that was for for so with

2549
02:02:50,639 --> 02:02:51,540
that money we were going to do the

2550
02:02:51,540 --> 02:02:54,000
intersection over like I'd explained

2551
02:02:54,000 --> 02:02:56,099
earlier we were going to clean up the

2552
02:02:56,099 --> 02:02:58,080
parking area in front of the tennis lots

2553
02:02:58,080 --> 02:03:00,060
and we were going to officially make

2554
02:03:00,060 --> 02:03:02,520
that path uh that right now is kind of

2555
02:03:02,520 --> 02:03:04,920
more of a dirt road that goes behind a

2556
02:03:04,920 --> 02:03:06,599
dime and that people walk on when they

2557
02:03:06,599 --> 02:03:08,940
go to music Haven with with lights and

2558
02:03:08,940 --> 02:03:10,500
things like that

2559
02:03:10,500 --> 02:03:12,599
um so that was what that one million is

2560
02:03:12,599 --> 02:03:13,920
and that's what we would that's why we

2561
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:15,659
call it General site improvements

2562
02:03:15,659 --> 02:03:17,159
because it's for the park as a general

2563
02:03:17,159 --> 02:03:19,739
area so bear in mind we have they are

2564
02:03:19,739 --> 02:03:21,540
also allocated funding for the tennis

2565
02:03:21,540 --> 02:03:24,599
court yes or the tennis facility yep can

2566
02:03:24,599 --> 02:03:25,920
you just mention about doing some work

2567
02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:28,260
with this million dollar there

2568
02:03:28,260 --> 02:03:30,780
tennis court so no

2569
02:03:30,780 --> 02:03:32,460
um so the tennis court half a million

2570
02:03:32,460 --> 02:03:34,619
dollars was for the repair and

2571
02:03:34,619 --> 02:03:37,020
restoration of the courts themselves the

2572
02:03:37,020 --> 02:03:39,540
courts themselves have bird baths and

2573
02:03:39,540 --> 02:03:41,580
cracks and things like that which occur

2574
02:03:41,580 --> 02:03:42,780
over the time

2575
02:03:42,780 --> 02:03:44,639
um last time we did work on those courts

2576
02:03:44,639 --> 02:03:48,420
was 2016 and enabled in order to keep

2577
02:03:48,420 --> 02:03:50,639
them in the USDA condition we have to do

2578
02:03:50,639 --> 02:03:53,159
that and that was the estimate that we

2579
02:03:53,159 --> 02:03:55,980
have to to do that we had a meeting with

2580
02:03:55,980 --> 02:03:58,199
them but yeah so I could I mean I could

2581
02:03:58,199 --> 02:04:00,300
put together a summary of what all this

2582
02:04:00,300 --> 02:04:04,320
is for but that 500 was for inside the

2583
02:04:04,320 --> 02:04:05,940
fence of the tennis courts yeah then the

2584
02:04:05,940 --> 02:04:07,500
million was for outside of everything to

2585
02:04:07,500 --> 02:04:09,300
kind of make the connectivity

2586
02:04:09,300 --> 02:04:10,920
yeah if you can just look into the

2587
02:04:10,920 --> 02:04:12,179
millionaire like look at the narrative

2588
02:04:12,179 --> 02:04:13,739
here it's saying Central Park Pool in

2589
02:04:13,739 --> 02:04:16,560
general side yep that's why we look at

2590
02:04:16,560 --> 02:04:18,659
it and we pass it based on adding

2591
02:04:18,659 --> 02:04:20,639
additional funding towards a pool

2592
02:04:20,639 --> 02:04:21,739
because

2593
02:04:21,739 --> 02:04:24,780
I have a slide of what I use to talk

2594
02:04:24,780 --> 02:04:26,639
about a little bit and what that was for

2595
02:04:26,639 --> 02:04:28,980
but it's more of a connectivity uh

2596
02:04:28,980 --> 02:04:31,679
surrounding the park it was uh pool and

2597
02:04:31,679 --> 02:04:35,649
this is the pool itself

2598
02:04:35,659 --> 02:04:39,000
good please so these profits you're

2599
02:04:39,000 --> 02:04:40,980
giveness I often with projects like this

2600
02:04:40,980 --> 02:04:42,659
there's change orders this is not even

2601
02:04:42,659 --> 02:04:44,820
taken to consideration because we won't

2602
02:04:44,820 --> 02:04:46,500
know it yet if any change orders come

2603
02:04:46,500 --> 02:04:48,360
about so that is if you look into the

2604
02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,480
middle of the sheet uh contingency for

2605
02:04:51,480 --> 02:04:53,460
change orders eight percent so that's

2606
02:04:53,460 --> 02:04:56,580
okay so that is in in there I'm not

2607
02:04:56,580 --> 02:04:58,320
saying that we're going to spend all of

2608
02:04:58,320 --> 02:05:01,380
that but the idea with that is that I

2609
02:05:01,380 --> 02:05:03,420
have something to spend if we have

2610
02:05:03,420 --> 02:05:05,099
change we're going to have change with

2611
02:05:05,099 --> 02:05:06,960
this it's just the you know the amount

2612
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:09,420
so given the fact that we have already

2613
02:05:09,420 --> 02:05:11,400
done a lot of due diligence we've taken

2614
02:05:11,400 --> 02:05:13,080
down the trees we've done site we have

2615
02:05:13,080 --> 02:05:15,659
all borings and we know that the soils

2616
02:05:15,659 --> 02:05:17,400
in the area are good we don't think

2617
02:05:17,400 --> 02:05:19,800
we're going to uncover any Boulders or

2618
02:05:19,800 --> 02:05:22,440
oil tanks or anything like that usually

2619
02:05:22,440 --> 02:05:24,719
contingencies 10 to 12 percent so we

2620
02:05:24,719 --> 02:05:26,099
felt safe enough to bring it down to

2621
02:05:26,099 --> 02:05:29,639
eight percent and that is in here so

2622
02:05:29,639 --> 02:05:31,500
that I don't have to come back and ask

2623
02:05:31,500 --> 02:05:33,599
for additional applications because you

2624
02:05:33,599 --> 02:05:34,920
know the difference between money like

2625
02:05:34,920 --> 02:05:37,199
this and saving money is the payment

2626
02:05:37,199 --> 02:05:38,940
money I kind of have we get from the

2627
02:05:38,940 --> 02:05:40,980
state in federal money I it's kind of

2628
02:05:40,980 --> 02:05:43,739
like my this is different this is hard

2629
02:05:43,739 --> 02:05:45,780
because there's not money set aside in

2630
02:05:45,780 --> 02:05:48,119
the budget for pools so that you know

2631
02:05:48,119 --> 02:05:49,980
anything pulls in Parts have always been

2632
02:05:49,980 --> 02:05:51,540
hard for us in the capital because you

2633
02:05:51,540 --> 02:05:52,440
have to set aside that money

2634
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:54,380
specifically

2635
02:05:54,380 --> 02:05:57,599
muscle only just for us so you know for

2636
02:05:57,599 --> 02:05:59,940
us to keep up our record can you list

2637
02:05:59,940 --> 02:06:02,040
all that added facilities or anything

2638
02:06:02,040 --> 02:06:04,260
that comprise that follows on the

2639
02:06:04,260 --> 02:06:05,820
facilities where you say Central Park

2640
02:06:05,820 --> 02:06:08,659
pools spray bad and Facilities

2641
02:06:08,659 --> 02:06:11,699
yeah the facilities were and if you

2642
02:06:11,699 --> 02:06:13,080
cannot today but you can listen and send

2643
02:06:13,080 --> 02:06:14,880
it to the college okay another idea of

2644
02:06:14,880 --> 02:06:18,020
what your what do you mean by facilities

2645
02:06:18,020 --> 02:06:19,920
it's what we're calling the bath house

2646
02:06:19,920 --> 02:06:31,609
yeah and then Palm Hospital

2647
02:06:31,619 --> 02:06:36,410
any other questions

2648
02:06:36,420 --> 02:06:39,300
this icon is just a discussion

2649
02:06:39,300 --> 02:06:41,699
purpose no I'm asking you for

2650
02:06:41,699 --> 02:06:43,739
authorization for funding

2651
02:06:43,739 --> 02:06:46,679
I think it's in on the city that I'm not

2652
02:06:46,679 --> 02:06:49,070
planning here

2653
02:06:49,080 --> 02:06:52,679
you have it here as icam number two

2654
02:06:52,679 --> 02:06:56,179
item number two so yeah

2655
02:06:56,179 --> 02:06:58,380
so these already have gone out today

2656
02:06:58,380 --> 02:07:00,179
you're asking them for the money but the

2657
02:07:00,179 --> 02:07:02,159
bid's already been done right the

2658
02:07:02,159 --> 02:07:03,980
just came in

2659
02:07:03,980 --> 02:07:06,540
yeah just to be clear this particular

2660
02:07:06,540 --> 02:07:08,400
piece of legislation the recommendation

2661
02:07:08,400 --> 02:07:10,500
is to authorize the finance commissioner

2662
02:07:10,500 --> 02:07:13,080
to allocate an additional 5.2 million in

2663
02:07:13,080 --> 02:07:15,060
arpa funds for the Central Park full

2664
02:07:15,060 --> 02:07:17,400
spray pattern facility project so it was

2665
02:07:17,400 --> 02:07:19,739
not a discussion item

2666
02:07:19,739 --> 02:07:21,960
no no if you look on this city

2667
02:07:21,960 --> 02:07:24,360
development planning there's an item

2668
02:07:24,360 --> 02:07:26,659
there it's an experience

2669
02:07:26,659 --> 02:07:29,040
item number one and two is for them yeah

2670
02:07:29,040 --> 02:07:34,609
discussions for Revere Avenue

2671
02:07:34,619 --> 02:07:37,020
so one or two are to award-bidden

2672
02:07:37,020 --> 02:07:39,410
contract

2673
02:07:39,420 --> 02:07:41,699
right

2674
02:07:41,699 --> 02:07:43,080
correct

2675
02:07:43,080 --> 02:07:45,500
okay

2676
02:07:45,500 --> 02:07:48,659
any other discussion

2677
02:07:48,659 --> 02:07:50,880
I've you know I'd like to see I mean

2678
02:07:50,880 --> 02:07:52,619
you've explained a lot today and I would

2679
02:07:52,619 --> 02:07:55,020
like to say like this is more than we

2680
02:07:55,020 --> 02:07:57,000
had initially when it came before the

2681
02:07:57,000 --> 02:07:59,040
council I'd like to see it as a con as a

2682
02:07:59,040 --> 02:08:01,260
comprehensive package and then we do

2683
02:08:01,260 --> 02:08:02,520
have three council members in this thing

2684
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:03,780
tonight

2685
02:08:03,780 --> 02:08:05,460
um who didn't get to hear all this

2686
02:08:05,460 --> 02:08:07,679
discussion so

2687
02:08:07,679 --> 02:08:09,480
um that's where I am with it right now I

2688
02:08:09,480 --> 02:08:11,219
just like to see is there something that

2689
02:08:11,219 --> 02:08:12,960
we don't have to

2690
02:08:12,960 --> 02:08:15,900
um that we don't have to do these bids

2691
02:08:15,900 --> 02:08:21,290
are good for 45 days and

2692
02:08:21,300 --> 02:08:24,119
yeah what's the timing on that yeah so

2693
02:08:24,119 --> 02:08:26,159
we got caught in a little bit of a

2694
02:08:26,159 --> 02:08:28,320
catch-22 that I wasn't really prepared

2695
02:08:28,320 --> 02:08:29,520
for but

2696
02:08:29,520 --> 02:08:32,400
um we had the bids out on December 2nd

2697
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:34,679
um we had some questions so we pushed

2698
02:08:34,679 --> 02:08:37,320
out the return date to Thursday January

2699
02:08:37,320 --> 02:08:39,119
12th so that we could give everybody

2700
02:08:39,119 --> 02:08:40,800
time because there were a lot of

2701
02:08:40,800 --> 02:08:42,599
questions like I said with the cap and

2702
02:08:42,599 --> 02:08:44,099
with some of the things with regard to

2703
02:08:44,099 --> 02:08:46,739
the pool uh January 2nd was legislative

2704
02:08:46,739 --> 02:08:49,920
conference so we didn't have time to

2705
02:08:49,920 --> 02:08:51,659
review the bids and get them in the

2706
02:08:51,659 --> 02:08:53,820
legislative conference on top of that as

2707
02:08:53,820 --> 02:08:55,980
you'll see in your uh

2708
02:08:55,980 --> 02:08:58,739
what is your agenda today we did not get

2709
02:08:58,739 --> 02:09:01,679
a mechanical of it so then we also

2710
02:09:01,679 --> 02:09:03,420
wanted to have that together we only got

2711
02:09:03,420 --> 02:09:06,300
three of the four so then we held off

2712
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:07,800
until the next but there was a dark

2713
02:09:07,800 --> 02:09:10,739
Monday on January 30th that pushed us

2714
02:09:10,739 --> 02:09:13,020
out the extra actually you know two

2715
02:09:13,020 --> 02:09:17,159
weeks almost so now uh 45 days this is

2716
02:09:17,159 --> 02:09:19,619
the best cycle to do it if we wait for

2717
02:09:19,619 --> 02:09:23,159
the 45 days it's Jan February 26th is

2718
02:09:23,159 --> 02:09:25,199
when that 45 days is over but the next

2719
02:09:25,199 --> 02:09:27,840
council meeting is February 27th and

2720
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:29,219
then we would still have to get the

2721
02:09:29,219 --> 02:09:31,080
signatures on the agreements so that's

2722
02:09:31,080 --> 02:09:33,060
why we thought to bring them both to you

2723
02:09:33,060 --> 02:09:35,639
today was to try to stay within the 45

2724
02:09:35,639 --> 02:09:40,570
minutes

2725
02:09:40,580 --> 02:09:42,360
timelines here

2726
02:09:42,360 --> 02:09:45,840
and they ask on the table is to get more

2727
02:09:45,840 --> 02:09:47,400
details get a list of all these things

2728
02:09:47,400 --> 02:09:48,960
here I'm sure

2729
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:51,360
Madam President we can schedule a

2730
02:09:51,360 --> 02:09:54,719
special meeting a finance meeting and a

2731
02:09:54,719 --> 02:09:55,980
special city council meeting to

2732
02:09:55,980 --> 02:09:58,920
accommodate that you meet your timeline

2733
02:09:58,920 --> 02:10:01,679
to get this done before the 26th so it

2734
02:10:01,679 --> 02:10:03,179
will be proven that you give us that

2735
02:10:03,179 --> 02:10:05,760
information okay and we have the council

2736
02:10:05,760 --> 02:10:07,619
member the next meeting and we can

2737
02:10:07,619 --> 02:10:09,360
discuss it in more detail and have a

2738
02:10:09,360 --> 02:10:13,260
look at all the added facilities and the

2739
02:10:13,260 --> 02:10:14,580
scope of work

2740
02:10:14,580 --> 02:10:16,920
and we can move forward I don't think it

2741
02:10:16,920 --> 02:10:18,480
would be a issue having special meetings

2742
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:20,040
to accommodate this

2743
02:10:20,040 --> 02:10:21,659
absolutely

2744
02:10:21,659 --> 02:10:41,330
I'm not available

2745
02:10:41,340 --> 02:10:43,020
um I would like all of the council

2746
02:10:43,020 --> 02:10:44,940
members to to at least hear the

2747
02:10:44,940 --> 02:10:46,500
conversations today and we have three

2748
02:10:46,500 --> 02:10:48,900
people that are missing I I knew that

2749
02:10:48,900 --> 02:10:50,699
two I didn't know the third

2750
02:10:50,699 --> 02:10:52,800
um so I would really if we could just

2751
02:10:52,800 --> 02:10:54,060
move along and we'll have a special

2752
02:10:54,060 --> 02:10:56,340
meeting and with finance and counseling

2753
02:10:56,340 --> 02:10:58,560
to make sure that everyone is clear and

2754
02:10:58,560 --> 02:11:01,679
again this what we understood when this

2755
02:11:01,679 --> 02:11:05,000
initially was brought to us has grown

2756
02:11:05,000 --> 02:11:09,060
tremendously so um that for me is a

2757
02:11:09,060 --> 02:11:12,179
concern that we heard about it after the

2758
02:11:12,179 --> 02:11:14,099
growth of it as opposed to on the front

2759
02:11:14,099 --> 02:11:15,599
end of it

2760
02:11:15,599 --> 02:11:17,699
so just want to take a little bit more

2761
02:11:17,699 --> 02:11:22,850
time to absorb all of that

2762
02:11:22,860 --> 02:11:25,380
yeah so is that oh yeah we'll get to it

2763
02:11:25,380 --> 02:11:27,659
the same with items one and two City

2764
02:11:27,659 --> 02:11:29,639
development planning all three rules at

2765
02:11:29,639 --> 02:11:31,920
the same time so we wouldn't be able

2766
02:11:31,920 --> 02:11:33,599
until we make sure we have the funding

2767
02:11:33,599 --> 02:11:34,980
all the funding in place we can't award

2768
02:11:34,980 --> 02:11:37,619
bids of contracts but we would hope to

2769
02:11:37,619 --> 02:11:40,739
do all of them special meeting yes

2770
02:11:40,739 --> 02:11:43,199
that's correct yes so he will be

2771
02:11:43,199 --> 02:11:46,520
discussing our allocation and then

2772
02:11:46,520 --> 02:11:48,300
contract

2773
02:11:48,300 --> 02:11:54,890
for these um

2774
02:11:54,900 --> 02:11:56,520
and he had a question regarding this

2775
02:11:56,520 --> 02:11:57,450
item

2776
02:11:57,450 --> 02:12:00,300
[Music]

2777
02:12:00,300 --> 02:12:05,089
all right

2778
02:12:05,099 --> 02:12:07,099
um

2779
02:12:07,099 --> 02:12:10,080
make sure we work with the clerk we will

2780
02:12:10,080 --> 02:12:11,820
call for the special meetings and make

2781
02:12:11,820 --> 02:12:14,040
sure the council members get it and get

2782
02:12:14,040 --> 02:12:16,080
the information once you receive the

2783
02:12:16,080 --> 02:12:17,940
official documentation we'll schedule

2784
02:12:17,940 --> 02:12:20,159
and call the yes yes I'll send all the

2785
02:12:20,159 --> 02:12:23,300
information to Sam tomorrow

2786
02:12:23,300 --> 02:12:24,920
okay okay

2787
02:12:24,920 --> 02:12:29,530
all right thank you for your time

2788
02:12:29,540 --> 02:12:33,719
and obviously Ron Gardens office on our

2789
02:12:33,719 --> 02:12:36,300
ewbe

2790
02:12:36,300 --> 02:12:37,380
um

2791
02:12:37,380 --> 02:12:41,179
goes on this project as well

2792
02:12:41,179 --> 02:12:42,250
yeah

2793
02:12:42,250 --> 02:12:43,520
[Music]

2794
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:46,040
he said yes yes

2795
02:12:46,040 --> 02:12:49,739
all right the next item updates on our

2796
02:12:49,739 --> 02:12:52,440
phones powerful allocations the best

2797
02:12:52,440 --> 02:12:53,639
Quarterfield

2798
02:12:53,639 --> 02:12:55,980
yes um

2799
02:12:55,980 --> 02:12:58,320
so you know we've allocated a lot of

2800
02:12:58,320 --> 02:13:00,239
money so at this point in time I'd like

2801
02:13:00,239 --> 02:13:02,159
to know where we are with that

2802
02:13:02,159 --> 02:13:04,320
um where our contracts are within I did

2803
02:13:04,320 --> 02:13:06,780
send an email out and so let me just

2804
02:13:06,780 --> 02:13:08,880
also say that Mr Ferrari did provide for

2805
02:13:08,880 --> 02:13:12,119
us the remaining funds uh about 8

2806
02:13:12,119 --> 02:13:14,760
million in our for funds so this point

2807
02:13:14,760 --> 02:13:16,199
in time for those the money that we have

2808
02:13:16,199 --> 02:13:18,360
allocated the council is allocated I'd

2809
02:13:18,360 --> 02:13:19,739
like to know where we are with the

2810
02:13:19,739 --> 02:13:22,260
contracts what's been sent out so

2811
02:13:22,260 --> 02:13:24,540
looking for the update from

2812
02:13:24,540 --> 02:13:28,260
um thank you from development and uh

2813
02:13:28,260 --> 02:13:31,020
also I sent the email to Mr Golden so

2814
02:13:31,020 --> 02:13:33,119
I'm not sure how we're going to who's

2815
02:13:33,119 --> 02:13:35,099
going to take one role

2816
02:13:35,099 --> 02:13:39,709
yet

2817
02:13:39,719 --> 02:13:41,639
um yeah so just to give a brief update

2818
02:13:41,639 --> 02:13:43,980
without going into every single

2819
02:13:43,980 --> 02:13:46,560
um awardee of the arpa funding um we we

2820
02:13:46,560 --> 02:13:49,800
did execute the contract fully with YWCA

2821
02:13:49,800 --> 02:13:50,940
which is great because that was a

2822
02:13:50,940 --> 02:13:53,520
critical needs project for some of their

2823
02:13:53,520 --> 02:13:56,880
critical repairs of the facility we have

2824
02:13:56,880 --> 02:13:58,440
the same thing has their contract

2825
02:13:58,440 --> 02:13:59,940
they're reviewing it and that should be

2826
02:13:59,940 --> 02:14:03,599
executed I would say very shortly

2827
02:14:03,599 --> 02:14:05,820
um we will be coming back next cycle

2828
02:14:05,820 --> 02:14:09,239
with the food Council

2829
02:14:09,239 --> 02:14:11,219
allocation I think we need to get

2830
02:14:11,219 --> 02:14:12,960
approval from the council to go to

2831
02:14:12,960 --> 02:14:17,340
contract so we we um we will be bringing

2832
02:14:17,340 --> 02:14:20,040
that back on the next cycle for approval

2833
02:14:20,040 --> 02:14:21,960
based on discussions with the foundation

2834
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:23,579
and sitcom and the other partners to

2835
02:14:23,579 --> 02:14:26,219
come up with a final budget

2836
02:14:26,219 --> 02:14:29,219
um I believe in addition to that we are

2837
02:14:29,219 --> 02:14:31,380
just still waiting on the pre-contract

2838
02:14:31,380 --> 02:14:33,860
requirements from various organizations

2839
02:14:33,860 --> 02:14:37,260
before we can actually enter into

2840
02:14:37,260 --> 02:14:41,699
contracts for those projects and we

2841
02:14:41,699 --> 02:14:44,280
still have some awards who who really

2842
02:14:44,280 --> 02:14:47,099
haven't responded to the request for

2843
02:14:47,099 --> 02:14:50,760
that information so far so I think you

2844
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:51,420
know

2845
02:14:51,420 --> 02:14:54,119
after some time we should start to I

2846
02:14:54,119 --> 02:14:55,739
mean I know we have the year timeline

2847
02:14:55,739 --> 02:14:57,960
placed on a lot of the projects but I do

2848
02:14:57,960 --> 02:14:59,760
really think we should probably come up

2849
02:14:59,760 --> 02:15:03,960
with a you know a timeline of when we

2850
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:05,460
can receive these pre-contract

2851
02:15:05,460 --> 02:15:07,679
requirements and you know what to do

2852
02:15:07,679 --> 02:15:09,300
beyond that

2853
02:15:09,300 --> 02:15:11,219
um do you have any other I mean I got

2854
02:15:11,219 --> 02:15:12,179
those

2855
02:15:12,179 --> 02:15:13,739
unless you guys are good questions yeah

2856
02:15:13,739 --> 02:15:16,440
so yeah I only heard you mentioned like

2857
02:15:16,440 --> 02:15:18,860
two people so far yeah

2858
02:15:18,860 --> 02:15:21,540
we gave a lot of requirements for people

2859
02:15:21,540 --> 02:15:24,480
for the pre-contract stuff I'm thinking

2860
02:15:24,480 --> 02:15:25,980
it'll save us a lot of time and effort

2861
02:15:25,980 --> 02:15:28,380
and the tail end after we get these

2862
02:15:28,380 --> 02:15:29,760
contracts executed just making sure

2863
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:33,000
everybody has you know a good shape

2864
02:15:33,000 --> 02:15:34,800
and they're prepared to move forward and

2865
02:15:34,800 --> 02:15:36,780
effective efficient manner so I think

2866
02:15:36,780 --> 02:15:38,219
people are trying to get their their

2867
02:15:38,219 --> 02:15:39,380
stuff together

2868
02:15:39,380 --> 02:15:42,060
so we definitely need a timeline so

2869
02:15:42,060 --> 02:15:44,159
specifically those who didn't have any

2870
02:15:44,159 --> 02:15:46,199
contingencies

2871
02:15:46,199 --> 02:15:47,159
um

2872
02:15:47,159 --> 02:15:49,380
none of this like nobody has responded

2873
02:15:49,380 --> 02:15:50,820
they have no contingencies and still I

2874
02:15:50,820 --> 02:15:51,960
haven't gotten the information to you

2875
02:15:51,960 --> 02:15:54,060
they're they're getting it together um

2876
02:15:54,060 --> 02:15:55,380
there's some back and forth they don't

2877
02:15:55,380 --> 02:15:57,300
necessarily have all the documents they

2878
02:15:57,300 --> 02:15:58,260
need to have

2879
02:15:58,260 --> 02:15:59,940
um there's polish procedures in place

2880
02:15:59,940 --> 02:16:02,159
that we ask them put in place they're

2881
02:16:02,159 --> 02:16:05,280
working to get together and aspects yeah

2882
02:16:05,280 --> 02:16:06,840
so there's been a lot of communication

2883
02:16:06,840 --> 02:16:08,400
and contact with a lot of the

2884
02:16:08,400 --> 02:16:10,139
organizations but we're just not at a

2885
02:16:10,139 --> 02:16:12,239
point to enter a contract yet

2886
02:16:12,239 --> 02:16:13,860
um and some of it is you know some of

2887
02:16:13,860 --> 02:16:15,719
the projects are also you know we're

2888
02:16:15,719 --> 02:16:17,699
waiting for them to add final budgets

2889
02:16:17,699 --> 02:16:20,099
and things like that so there's just a

2890
02:16:20,099 --> 02:16:21,420
lot of moving Parts with a lot of the

2891
02:16:21,420 --> 02:16:24,119
projects and also getting you know the

2892
02:16:24,119 --> 02:16:28,079
organizations to get together those documents so that's kind of where

2893
02:16:28,079 --> 02:16:29,460
we are but we do have you know the

2894
02:16:29,460 --> 02:16:30,780
contract we've worked with the law

2895
02:16:30,780 --> 02:16:32,880
Department we have the template we're

2896
02:16:32,880 --> 02:16:34,380
working with the organizations we're

2897
02:16:34,380 --> 02:16:36,960
just not really in a position to to

2898
02:16:36,960 --> 02:16:39,000
execute on the ones that we don't have

2899
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:40,979
all the information for

2900
02:16:40,979 --> 02:16:42,479
oh

2901
02:16:42,479 --> 02:16:44,639
go ahead with this would you stand there

2902
02:16:44,639 --> 02:16:46,559
at this time are there any projects that

2903
02:16:46,559 --> 02:16:49,740
you are more worried about than being

2904
02:16:49,740 --> 02:16:51,599
that deadline

2905
02:16:51,599 --> 02:16:53,399
and if so I think that would be

2906
02:16:53,399 --> 02:16:55,260
appropriate to provide the listing or

2907
02:16:55,260 --> 02:16:57,599
update to the council as

2908
02:16:57,599 --> 02:16:59,880
well we can we can look more more into

2909
02:16:59,880 --> 02:17:00,960
that game

2910
02:17:00,960 --> 02:17:03,719
yeah and like I mean I would say the

2911
02:17:03,719 --> 02:17:05,280
ones who just haven't responded I mean

2912
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:08,219
we can actively reach out but you know

2913
02:17:08,219 --> 02:17:10,920
there's a limited time that they're

2914
02:17:10,920 --> 02:17:13,260
going to spend doing that you know

2915
02:17:13,260 --> 02:17:15,179
um you know we want to be proactive

2916
02:17:15,179 --> 02:17:17,399
about executing these projects we also

2917
02:17:17,399 --> 02:17:20,280
can't you know just continuously reach

2918
02:17:20,280 --> 02:17:21,599
out if we're not really getting a

2919
02:17:21,599 --> 02:17:23,399
response so yeah at a certain point

2920
02:17:23,399 --> 02:17:25,620
we're going to have to evaluate that and

2921
02:17:25,620 --> 02:17:26,460
then

2922
02:17:26,460 --> 02:17:28,740
I imagine like bootcampus but so much

2923
02:17:28,740 --> 02:17:31,139
hand-holding but based on my scope and

2924
02:17:31,139 --> 02:17:33,179
uh

2925
02:17:33,179 --> 02:17:35,280
viewing comparatively with what you have

2926
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:36,719
been receiving from other projects I

2927
02:17:36,719 --> 02:17:38,760
would just like to know what monies

2928
02:17:38,760 --> 02:17:40,200
could potentially be returning to the

2929
02:17:40,200 --> 02:17:41,700
council that we need to then focus on

2930
02:17:41,700 --> 02:17:43,740
how do we reallocate that in the worst

2931
02:17:43,740 --> 02:17:45,540
case scenariants I think this point in

2932
02:17:45,540 --> 02:17:47,519
time it's gonna you know we don't have

2933
02:17:47,519 --> 02:17:48,899
that number yet

2934
02:17:48,899 --> 02:17:51,000
um most the big ticket items that you

2935
02:17:51,000 --> 02:17:53,460
had large allocated dollars to

2936
02:17:53,460 --> 02:17:55,080
um had a significant number of

2937
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:56,880
contingencies cash them any other money

2938
02:17:56,880 --> 02:17:59,340
they need to raise so once we get a

2939
02:17:59,340 --> 02:18:00,540
better idea of where they're going to

2940
02:18:00,540 --> 02:18:02,760
stand with those projects

2941
02:18:02,760 --> 02:18:04,620
give you a better idea of how much money

2942
02:18:04,620 --> 02:18:07,080
you'll get back you know most most of

2943
02:18:07,080 --> 02:18:08,399
there's some that are fairly

2944
02:18:08,399 --> 02:18:10,380
significantly small

2945
02:18:10,380 --> 02:18:11,880
um you know ten fifty thousand dollars

2946
02:18:11,880 --> 02:18:13,800
which is a small amount of money I was

2947
02:18:13,800 --> 02:18:16,559
gonna say but for this for 52 million

2948
02:18:16,559 --> 02:18:19,139
dollars it's not it's not a significant

2949
02:18:19,139 --> 02:18:20,519
amount but so we'll we'll have a better

2950
02:18:20,519 --> 02:18:23,099
idea probably in a few months of what

2951
02:18:23,099 --> 02:18:25,880
money is probably could be reallocated

2952
02:18:25,880 --> 02:18:28,320
yeah we definitely need to know that and

2953
02:18:28,320 --> 02:18:30,599
uh so I would like to post it to the

2954
02:18:30,599 --> 02:18:32,460
council that we discussed getting a um

2955
02:18:32,460 --> 02:18:34,200
because it sounds like you're kind of

2956
02:18:34,200 --> 02:18:36,479
extreme amount of work to do and it's

2957
02:18:36,479 --> 02:18:38,880
beyond what you normally do that we um

2958
02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:40,740
talking about using some of the arpa

2959
02:18:40,740 --> 02:18:42,540
funds to actually hire Consultants who

2960
02:18:42,540 --> 02:18:44,340
keep track of this money

2961
02:18:44,340 --> 02:18:46,439
um it's a lot for our you know it's

2962
02:18:46,439 --> 02:18:49,800
additional it's an additional um job to

2963
02:18:49,800 --> 02:18:51,479
do beyond what staff is already doing

2964
02:18:51,479 --> 02:18:54,059
and so I would like to propose that we

2965
02:18:54,059 --> 02:18:55,800
look at how to consultant to keep track

2966
02:18:55,800 --> 02:18:57,719
of keep track of the projects keep track

2967
02:18:57,719 --> 02:19:01,019
of the money and just you know um

2968
02:19:01,019 --> 02:19:03,300
we're looking at that internally to

2969
02:19:03,300 --> 02:19:06,899
match it up to be able to do the

2970
02:19:06,899 --> 02:19:09,559
allocation and then do the monitoring

2971
02:19:09,559 --> 02:19:11,820
so you're not you're you're saying

2972
02:19:11,820 --> 02:19:12,840
you're not interested in doing an

2973
02:19:12,840 --> 02:19:15,420
outside consultant to bring in I didn't

2974
02:19:15,420 --> 02:19:17,519
say that they said we're doing it we're

2975
02:19:17,519 --> 02:19:18,960
looking at one

2976
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:20,820
house or

2977
02:19:20,820 --> 02:19:23,340
actually have somebody else as a

2978
02:19:23,340 --> 02:19:24,309
consultant

2979
02:19:24,309 --> 02:19:26,639
[Music]

2980
02:19:26,639 --> 02:19:30,179
so as far as the timeline goes um

2981
02:19:30,179 --> 02:19:33,240
obviously we'll be looking at are you

2982
02:19:33,240 --> 02:19:35,820
know depending on again project scope

2983
02:19:35,820 --> 02:19:37,679
amount you know the contingencies that

2984
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:39,179
are put in place

2985
02:19:39,179 --> 02:19:42,599
um we should probably have like a

2986
02:19:42,599 --> 02:19:44,700
timeline thing this is the deadline but

2987
02:19:44,700 --> 02:19:46,679
that deadline then would have to take

2988
02:19:46,679 --> 02:19:48,660
into all those considerations so I just

2989
02:19:48,660 --> 02:19:51,120
wouldn't you know want to have an

2990
02:19:51,120 --> 02:19:52,560
expectation for

2991
02:19:52,560 --> 02:19:56,520
um a project with no contingencies or

2992
02:19:56,520 --> 02:19:58,320
maybe some small contingencies put them

2993
02:19:58,320 --> 02:20:00,600
at the same timeline as a project with

2994
02:20:00,600 --> 02:20:02,100
lots of contingencies because that was

2995
02:20:02,100 --> 02:20:04,140
just you know be setting them up for

2996
02:20:04,140 --> 02:20:05,899
failure so I'm just concerned about that

2997
02:20:05,899 --> 02:20:07,740
kind of

2998
02:20:07,740 --> 02:20:09,840
maybe you guys put the ones with

2999
02:20:09,840 --> 02:20:11,399
contingencies you did actually put a

3000
02:20:11,399 --> 02:20:13,680
timeline in place fourth and

3001
02:20:13,680 --> 02:20:16,439
um so okay I was talking about

3002
02:20:16,439 --> 02:20:18,359
um people that are like we're not

3003
02:20:18,359 --> 02:20:20,760
hearing back from or saying or like

3004
02:20:20,760 --> 02:20:22,380
there's some there's some figuring out

3005
02:20:22,380 --> 02:20:24,359
why you know yeah some documentation

3006
02:20:24,359 --> 02:20:26,160
that needs to uh that needs to be

3007
02:20:26,160 --> 02:20:27,420
produced

3008
02:20:27,420 --> 02:20:29,460
um yeah so I was just thinking around

3009
02:20:29,460 --> 02:20:31,500
those you know if we put together so we

3010
02:20:31,500 --> 02:20:33,300
have that that overarching timeline

3011
02:20:33,300 --> 02:20:35,460
where we talked about adding in an

3012
02:20:35,460 --> 02:20:37,560
additional timeline for paperwork

3013
02:20:37,560 --> 02:20:38,760
compliance is that what we're saying

3014
02:20:38,760 --> 02:20:40,740
it's about you know right related like

3015
02:20:40,740 --> 02:20:43,580
an intern deadline to get that stuff in

3016
02:20:43,580 --> 02:20:45,680
so that will make sure

3017
02:20:45,680 --> 02:20:47,819
that's right and if that was going to

3018
02:20:47,819 --> 02:20:49,020
happen those are just the considerations

3019
02:20:49,020 --> 02:20:51,060
that we've obviously implemented but I

3020
02:20:51,060 --> 02:20:54,889
think is worth enough

3021
02:20:54,899 --> 02:20:58,080
so um so thank you for that we were very

3022
02:20:58,080 --> 02:20:59,520
intentional about how we were spending

3023
02:20:59,520 --> 02:21:00,300
money make sure that certain

3024
02:21:00,300 --> 02:21:02,580
organizations got money however we are

3025
02:21:02,580 --> 02:21:05,100
also held to a timeline so if we can't

3026
02:21:05,100 --> 02:21:08,460
if we everything can be gotten in the in

3027
02:21:08,460 --> 02:21:10,319
within our time frame then we have to

3028
02:21:10,319 --> 02:21:11,580
make sure that we're understanding that

3029
02:21:11,580 --> 02:21:13,319
we would have to recapture some of those

3030
02:21:13,319 --> 02:21:15,660
funds so it's important that's why I

3031
02:21:15,660 --> 02:21:16,620
think it's important that we have

3032
02:21:16,620 --> 02:21:18,300
someone who's extremely dedicated to

3033
02:21:18,300 --> 02:21:21,180
making sure that that work is done so

3034
02:21:21,180 --> 02:21:22,859
um that we've you know allocate the

3035
02:21:22,859 --> 02:21:24,359
money and we're not giving any of it

3036
02:21:24,359 --> 02:21:25,979
back

3037
02:21:25,979 --> 02:21:27,840
um so what I'm going to ask for you is

3038
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:29,460
like probably every couple of weeks now

3039
02:21:29,460 --> 02:21:31,500
at this point in time every Community

3040
02:21:31,500 --> 02:21:33,060
needs to just see where we are I think

3041
02:21:33,060 --> 02:21:34,920
we really have to stay on top of this

3042
02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:38,030
and um

3043
02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:40,560
if you could if it's just those couple

3044
02:21:40,560 --> 02:21:41,760
months if you would just be specific

3045
02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:43,560
with the ones just send an email and

3046
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:45,540
I'll make sure sure yeah I didn't know

3047
02:21:45,540 --> 02:21:49,500
if we wanted to go through like every project but yeah we can we can

3048
02:21:49,500 --> 02:21:50,880
send that information so that

3049
02:21:50,880 --> 02:21:52,380
everybody's aware and if someone reaches

3050
02:21:52,380 --> 02:21:53,640
out that

3051
02:21:53,640 --> 02:21:55,620
it hasn't gotten in touch or something

3052
02:21:55,620 --> 02:21:57,920
we can we can you know

3053
02:21:57,920 --> 02:22:00,899
be able to to talk to them yes because

3054
02:22:00,899 --> 02:22:02,460
people are asking we do receive phone

3055
02:22:02,460 --> 02:22:04,740
calls so just like but so where things

3056
02:22:04,740 --> 02:22:11,809
are that would be great yeah

3057
02:22:11,819 --> 02:22:13,859
so we'll have this back

3058
02:22:13,859 --> 02:22:16,560
uh two weeks okay any other icon before

3059
02:22:16,560 --> 02:22:17,939
Finance

3060
02:22:17,939 --> 02:22:20,340
I have a motion to a driver second all

3061
02:22:20,340 --> 02:22:23,100
the paper uh thank you call to order

3062
02:22:23,100 --> 02:22:25,439
City development and planning and based

3063
02:22:25,439 --> 02:22:27,120
on our prior discussion

3064
02:22:27,120 --> 02:22:29,460
um items number one and two will be

3065
02:22:29,460 --> 02:22:31,620
considered when we have a special

3066
02:22:31,620 --> 02:22:33,420
meeting

3067
02:22:33,420 --> 02:22:35,640
that will be called regarding the

3068
02:22:35,640 --> 02:22:38,700
allocation of funds

3069
02:22:38,700 --> 02:22:41,939
item number three discussion of uh

3070
02:22:41,939 --> 02:22:43,979
Revere Avenue paper Street development

3071
02:22:43,979 --> 02:22:49,730
feasibility studies

3072
02:22:49,740 --> 02:22:53,880
thank you uh so if you recall several

3073
02:22:53,880 --> 02:22:56,700
months ago I came before you with a

3074
02:22:56,700 --> 02:23:00,680
proposal from CT mail to discuss the

3075
02:23:00,680 --> 02:23:03,780
scoping an investigation if the Revere

3076
02:23:03,780 --> 02:23:05,460
Avenue could be developed from paper

3077
02:23:05,460 --> 02:23:08,880
Street into an actual road we reviewed

3078
02:23:08,880 --> 02:23:11,040
the document together and the question

3079
02:23:11,040 --> 02:23:14,640
was brought forth about how future costs

3080
02:23:14,640 --> 02:23:19,500
would be handled and what the I guess

3081
02:23:19,500 --> 02:23:21,660
what the owner the owner of the

3082
02:23:21,660 --> 02:23:23,399
property's commitment would be as we go

3083
02:23:23,399 --> 02:23:25,319
forward with the investigation I believe

3084
02:23:25,319 --> 02:23:27,540
it is the property owners desire that

3085
02:23:27,540 --> 02:23:32,160
the city front this cost for CT mail to

3086
02:23:32,160 --> 02:23:34,380
do the investigation and then at that

3087
02:23:34,380 --> 02:23:37,200
point on to go forward they would be an

3088
02:23:37,200 --> 02:23:39,780
active partner in the development of the

3089
02:23:39,780 --> 02:23:42,540
area the owner of the property has

3090
02:23:42,540 --> 02:23:44,939
written a letter that is in here and the

3091
02:23:44,939 --> 02:23:47,819
owner is here today to discuss the

3092
02:23:47,819 --> 02:23:49,500
development and moving forward with the

3093
02:23:49,500 --> 02:23:52,380
project it so it would be great if we

3094
02:23:52,380 --> 02:23:54,720
could have a conversation today about

3095
02:23:54,720 --> 02:23:58,370
how we want to move forward with this

3096
02:23:58,380 --> 02:23:59,939
and I would welcome would you want to

3097
02:23:59,939 --> 02:24:01,620
come up with Frank and uh if there's any

3098
02:24:01,620 --> 02:24:09,830
questions we can discuss together

3099
02:24:09,840 --> 02:24:12,020
you do have

3100
02:24:12,020 --> 02:24:17,580
my uh proposal uh Chris had asked me to

3101
02:24:17,580 --> 02:24:19,260
submit something to you so that you can

3102
02:24:19,260 --> 02:24:21,180
see you know what our involvement it

3103
02:24:21,180 --> 02:24:23,520
would be just so you understand I'm not

3104
02:24:23,520 --> 02:24:27,110
the owner my wife is

3105
02:24:27,120 --> 02:24:27,720
um

3106
02:24:27,720 --> 02:24:30,359
she allows me to you know to make

3107
02:24:30,359 --> 02:24:36,180
condemnments for her anyways what we would like to do here is we we

3108
02:24:36,180 --> 02:24:38,399
have tried to develop this ourselves and

3109
02:24:38,399 --> 02:24:40,080
we found that we you know there were

3110
02:24:40,080 --> 02:24:41,640
environmental issues that needed to be

3111
02:24:41,640 --> 02:24:45,479
addressed and in doing so we weren't

3112
02:24:45,479 --> 02:24:47,340
proposing necessarily to put the road

3113
02:24:47,340 --> 02:24:50,180
through so what I'm asking for is a

3114
02:24:50,180 --> 02:24:52,920
feasibility study to see if the road can

3115
02:24:52,920 --> 02:24:55,859
go in and at that point then we will

3116
02:24:55,859 --> 02:24:57,899
determine you know how we're going to

3117
02:24:57,899 --> 02:24:59,580
perceive this because the development

3118
02:24:59,580 --> 02:25:01,870
team still is interested in the property

3119
02:25:01,870 --> 02:25:06,469
[Music]

3120
02:25:06,479 --> 02:25:09,899
so you're asking us to pay the six six

3121
02:25:09,899 --> 02:25:11,340
thousand seven hundred and fifty dollars

3122
02:25:11,340 --> 02:25:15,260
to for this visibility yeah

3123
02:25:15,260 --> 02:25:18,720
and these properties have all paid taxes

3124
02:25:18,720 --> 02:25:21,060
oh yes

3125
02:25:21,060 --> 02:25:23,220
many other properties have been owned by

3126
02:25:23,220 --> 02:25:26,760
the family for almost 50 years now and

3127
02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:27,780
uh

3128
02:25:27,780 --> 02:25:30,600
my wife's inherited you know this he's

3129
02:25:30,600 --> 02:25:34,439
the 17 icon 17 Labs you guys have it

3130
02:25:34,439 --> 02:25:36,180
split up on third view that's because

3131
02:25:36,180 --> 02:25:38,280
some of them have been combined

3132
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:39,960
but anyways

3133
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:42,359
um over the course of that time over the

3134
02:25:42,359 --> 02:25:43,740
course of the last 30 years I've been

3135
02:25:43,740 --> 02:25:45,300
looking at several different projects

3136
02:25:45,300 --> 02:25:47,220
you know what we can do with this what

3137
02:25:47,220 --> 02:25:48,240
we can't do

3138
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:51,960
and with the zoning change you know to

3139
02:25:51,960 --> 02:25:55,939
the uh what was it R3

3140
02:25:55,939 --> 02:25:58,439
we were allowed you know to do the

3141
02:25:58,439 --> 02:26:00,240
multiple dwelling which is this is

3142
02:26:00,240 --> 02:26:03,240
surrounded by apartments from R1 correct

3143
02:26:03,240 --> 02:26:05,640
from a single single-family photographer

3144
02:26:05,640 --> 02:26:07,560
if you know the area the area is

3145
02:26:07,560 --> 02:26:09,560
multi-family homes

3146
02:26:09,560 --> 02:26:13,080
actually at the time when the zoning was

3147
02:26:13,080 --> 02:26:14,399
done I'm surprised that it wasn't

3148
02:26:14,399 --> 02:26:16,979
changed then you know just because

3149
02:26:16,979 --> 02:26:20,660
everything around it was an organ

3150
02:26:20,660 --> 02:26:25,080
so uh at any rate we found you know we

3151
02:26:25,080 --> 02:26:27,000
did find some developers that were very

3152
02:26:27,000 --> 02:26:29,819
interested in the property and that's

3153
02:26:29,819 --> 02:26:31,260
when we ran into some of the

3154
02:26:31,260 --> 02:26:32,880
environmental issues

3155
02:26:32,880 --> 02:26:35,880
and I feel pretty strongly that I think

3156
02:26:35,880 --> 02:26:38,040
that the city has a better chance of

3157
02:26:38,040 --> 02:26:40,560
getting those approved than we would as

3158
02:26:40,560 --> 02:26:49,510
private investor private Developers

3159
02:26:49,520 --> 02:26:52,340
[Music]

3160
02:26:52,340 --> 02:26:55,740
oil spills or anything like that you

3161
02:26:55,740 --> 02:26:58,859
know these property uh it has What was

3162
02:26:58,859 --> 02:27:01,800
seen as some unclassified Wetland areas

3163
02:27:01,800 --> 02:27:03,840
you know what we want to do is we're

3164
02:27:03,840 --> 02:27:05,819
talking about a very small area within

3165
02:27:05,819 --> 02:27:08,280
the right-of-way on adjacent to his so

3166
02:27:08,280 --> 02:27:10,319
what we want to do is to figure out the

3167
02:27:10,319 --> 02:27:12,359
feasibility see team mail the reason

3168
02:27:12,359 --> 02:27:14,520
that we are looking to work with TT mail

3169
02:27:14,520 --> 02:27:17,580
the CT mail is the city's ms4 and storm

3170
02:27:17,580 --> 02:27:20,340
water consultant they're very uh versed

3171
02:27:20,340 --> 02:27:22,620
in both the city and regionally how to

3172
02:27:22,620 --> 02:27:24,840
work with local Army Corps of Engineers

3173
02:27:24,840 --> 02:27:27,060
and the DDC

3174
02:27:27,060 --> 02:27:29,340
um because even though on any map that

3175
02:27:29,340 --> 02:27:30,840
exists because we've done the research

3176
02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:33,600
these are not uh classified they do not

3177
02:27:33,600 --> 02:27:35,520
exist on paper they still exist

3178
02:27:35,520 --> 02:27:38,220
physically as a wet area in the city and

3179
02:27:38,220 --> 02:27:40,500
we do our due diligence to see if this

3180
02:27:40,500 --> 02:27:42,600
can be developed if it cannot be

3181
02:27:42,600 --> 02:27:44,040
developed that's going to take us down a

3182
02:27:44,040 --> 02:27:45,720
different road because if we come into

3183
02:27:45,720 --> 02:27:47,399
the terms of this area cannot be

3184
02:27:47,399 --> 02:27:50,460
developed then these Parcels are

3185
02:27:50,460 --> 02:27:52,740
essentially

3186
02:27:52,740 --> 02:27:55,380
right well one one thing to keep in mind

3187
02:27:55,380 --> 02:27:57,120
is these parts that were part of a

3188
02:27:57,120 --> 02:27:59,760
subdivision of the city probably I would

3189
02:27:59,760 --> 02:28:02,580
say 70 or 80 years ago these properties

3190
02:28:02,580 --> 02:28:05,420
were set up paper streets

3191
02:28:05,420 --> 02:28:08,359
Lots were established Lots were sold

3192
02:28:08,359 --> 02:28:11,880
resold sold over again sold at tax sales

3193
02:28:11,880 --> 02:28:13,979
and so on on Down the Line

3194
02:28:13,979 --> 02:28:16,560
and that's how it was developed

3195
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:19,020
now Wetlands act didn't come in a big

3196
02:28:19,020 --> 02:28:21,420
play until 1971 and they never really

3197
02:28:21,420 --> 02:28:24,479
came around with any real program on

3198
02:28:24,479 --> 02:28:27,120
that until the late 80s early 90s

3199
02:28:27,120 --> 02:28:29,460
so I mean you know actually if we had

3200
02:28:29,460 --> 02:28:31,859
done something with it in the 70s you

3201
02:28:31,859 --> 02:28:33,439
know maybe this wouldn't even be there

3202
02:28:33,439 --> 02:28:36,840
but I think that's where we had where

3203
02:28:36,840 --> 02:28:39,540
the city has an opportunity to work with

3204
02:28:39,540 --> 02:28:41,520
you know other agencies the federal

3205
02:28:41,520 --> 02:28:43,680
agencies and the state agencies to keep

3206
02:28:43,680 --> 02:28:50,030
this on the tax maps the way you want

3207
02:28:50,040 --> 02:28:51,600
um and it does say including

3208
02:28:51,600 --> 02:28:54,840
reimbursable expenses so

3209
02:28:54,840 --> 02:28:57,720
uh yeah so reimbursable expenses in

3210
02:28:57,720 --> 02:29:00,540
regards to this is technically if they

3211
02:29:00,540 --> 02:29:02,880
print a very large map where they do

3212
02:29:02,880 --> 02:29:05,160
mileage that's a reimbursable expensive

3213
02:29:05,160 --> 02:29:08,340
it's it's usually percentages more than

3214
02:29:08,340 --> 02:29:11,100
that it's we're not you know 35 cents a

3215
02:29:11,100 --> 02:29:12,780
mile they come from our office to here

3216
02:29:12,780 --> 02:29:14,939
so it's not it's not anything we're you

3217
02:29:14,939 --> 02:29:16,680
know we're not paying for a trip to

3218
02:29:16,680 --> 02:29:20,939
Vegas or running of a helicopter it's going to be they're usually well

3219
02:29:20,939 --> 02:29:39,250
climbed and it's not Central Park no

3220
02:29:39,260 --> 02:29:41,340
any questions any other questions from

3221
02:29:41,340 --> 02:29:44,580
Council Members I will say so I would

3222
02:29:44,580 --> 02:29:47,760
pay for this out of a operating code in

3223
02:29:47,760 --> 02:29:49,260
the engineering department that is

3224
02:29:49,260 --> 02:29:52,439
called fees for services I do keep a

3225
02:29:52,439 --> 02:29:55,260
fees line with money for hiring of

3226
02:29:55,260 --> 02:29:57,600
consultants and surveyors and things so

3227
02:29:57,600 --> 02:30:00,479
while this is not 100 budgeted when I

3228
02:30:00,479 --> 02:30:03,180
came to you there is budget to pay for

3229
02:30:03,180 --> 02:30:04,859
this portion of it so this is not

3230
02:30:04,859 --> 02:30:07,740
something that you know is outside the

3231
02:30:07,740 --> 02:30:08,939
realm of anything I don't have to you

3232
02:30:08,939 --> 02:30:13,370
know go digging it up I'll be able to

3233
02:30:13,380 --> 02:30:16,800
all right any questions

3234
02:30:16,800 --> 02:30:20,120
Mr Williams I know um do your recent uh

3235
02:30:20,120 --> 02:30:22,319
updates on the existence of paper

3236
02:30:22,319 --> 02:30:23,819
streets we're saying they're far in

3237
02:30:23,819 --> 02:30:25,260
between right

3238
02:30:25,260 --> 02:30:27,479
sorry as my follow-on question is making

3239
02:30:27,479 --> 02:30:29,280
sure this is seen as an opportunity and

3240
02:30:29,280 --> 02:30:31,800
not necessarily an obligation to do a

3241
02:30:31,800 --> 02:30:33,620
consideration too with

3242
02:30:33,620 --> 02:30:35,720
Chris

3243
02:30:35,720 --> 02:30:43,140
an opportunity not up yeah this is very unique and the uniqueness of it is

3244
02:30:43,140 --> 02:30:44,760
typically our paper streets are actually

3245
02:30:44,760 --> 02:30:47,340
around like Cal Brook Parks diamonds

3246
02:30:47,340 --> 02:30:49,200
Park Woodlawn they're around the park

3247
02:30:49,200 --> 02:30:51,540
area we do still have some but they can

3248
02:30:51,540 --> 02:30:53,880
be developed a little bit simpler this

3249
02:30:53,880 --> 02:30:56,640
particular street is entirety between

3250
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:58,859
two streets next to two developed pieces

3251
02:30:58,859 --> 02:31:01,200
of land it's very unique because if for

3252
02:31:01,200 --> 02:31:03,359
some reason it could not be developed

3253
02:31:03,359 --> 02:31:05,640
then all the parcels on either side of

3254
02:31:05,640 --> 02:31:08,220
this are landlocked by all of their

3255
02:31:08,220 --> 02:31:10,500
neighbors and hence unusable and then I

3256
02:31:10,500 --> 02:31:11,880
would have to work with the property

3257
02:31:11,880 --> 02:31:14,760
owners and the assessor and possibly

3258
02:31:14,760 --> 02:31:17,520
Andrew to find okay well now you know is

3259
02:31:17,520 --> 02:31:19,620
it really how do we how do we do that

3260
02:31:19,620 --> 02:31:21,720
because the parcels then are you know

3261
02:31:21,720 --> 02:31:23,160
I'm not saying that every empty parcel

3262
02:31:23,160 --> 02:31:24,840
should not be a park you know we don't

3263
02:31:24,840 --> 02:31:26,460
have we don't really have a need to make

3264
02:31:26,460 --> 02:31:29,580
another Park in the area but this is a

3265
02:31:29,580 --> 02:31:31,319
it's a conversation um I can't remember

3266
02:31:31,319 --> 02:31:32,640
how many years ago it was it was

3267
02:31:32,640 --> 02:31:34,260
somewhere around six or seven years ago

3268
02:31:34,260 --> 02:31:36,899
Steve strickman did a very large study

3269
02:31:36,899 --> 02:31:38,160
around a little while and he just

3270
02:31:38,160 --> 02:31:40,439
started consolidating paper streets

3271
02:31:40,439 --> 02:31:41,880
around the Woodlawn preserve because

3272
02:31:41,880 --> 02:31:43,920
Woodlawn preserve was turning and

3273
02:31:43,920 --> 02:31:46,140
working with the Albany Pine Bush This

3274
02:31:46,140 --> 02:31:48,960
is not that I think that given the

3275
02:31:48,960 --> 02:31:51,359
location of this and giving that it

3276
02:31:51,359 --> 02:31:53,220
cannot be incorporated into other

3277
02:31:53,220 --> 02:31:56,760
aspects of parks or public lands I think

3278
02:31:56,760 --> 02:31:58,800
that it would be in the city's best

3279
02:31:58,800 --> 02:32:00,660
interest to work with a property owner

3280
02:32:00,660 --> 02:32:02,640
and just see this to its natural

3281
02:32:02,640 --> 02:32:03,920
conclusion

3282
02:32:03,920 --> 02:32:06,960
and if you know wherever that may be you

3283
02:32:06,960 --> 02:32:08,340
know and work with them and work with a

3284
02:32:08,340 --> 02:32:10,439
property owner because otherwise I I

3285
02:32:10,439 --> 02:32:11,640
don't know what you know what we would

3286
02:32:11,640 --> 02:32:12,660
do with it and it would be better to

3287
02:32:12,660 --> 02:32:14,700
keep this on the tax roll than to have

3288
02:32:14,700 --> 02:32:16,620
some things and have it justice

3289
02:32:16,620 --> 02:32:19,439
you know undevelopable area

3290
02:32:19,439 --> 02:32:23,220
thank you any other questions

3291
02:32:23,220 --> 02:32:25,020
well I will I will just say one thing

3292
02:32:25,020 --> 02:32:26,640
there's one volume up because it came to

3293
02:32:26,640 --> 02:32:29,340
me you guys didn't bring this up but uh

3294
02:32:29,340 --> 02:32:31,800
we built did talk with Metroplex and

3295
02:32:31,800 --> 02:32:34,260
given the location that it is solely uh

3296
02:32:34,260 --> 02:32:37,680
residential they at the moment are

3297
02:32:37,680 --> 02:32:39,359
saying that you know they'd like the

3298
02:32:39,359 --> 02:32:41,040
city to to work on it because they

3299
02:32:41,040 --> 02:32:43,380
prefer downtown mixed-use with a little

3300
02:32:43,380 --> 02:32:45,840
commercial just that that came up I did

3301
02:32:45,840 --> 02:32:48,660
uh when I talked with Mr irva I did go

3302
02:32:48,660 --> 02:32:50,640
and have a meeting with the Metroplex

3303
02:32:50,640 --> 02:32:52,260
Development Authority because I thought

3304
02:32:52,260 --> 02:32:54,300
that this was uh and then the whole city

3305
02:32:54,300 --> 02:32:56,700
is in Metroplex but they had talked with

3306
02:32:56,700 --> 02:32:58,859
him previously or were aware of it and

3307
02:32:58,859 --> 02:33:00,120
they said that they're just not this

3308
02:33:00,120 --> 02:33:02,880
isn't in their wheelhouse as of right

3309
02:33:02,880 --> 02:33:04,740
now so maybe down the line as we get

3310
02:33:04,740 --> 02:33:06,000
things going there'll be something but

3311
02:33:06,000 --> 02:33:08,040
right now they ask that the city takes a

3312
02:33:08,040 --> 02:33:11,100
lead on us there is the potential that

3313
02:33:11,100 --> 02:33:12,660
you know you could have some commercial

3314
02:33:12,660 --> 02:33:14,760
development in there as part of the

3315
02:33:14,760 --> 02:33:17,399
mixed use so I mean that is allowed in

3316
02:33:17,399 --> 02:33:24,290
the zoning so that is a possibility also

3317
02:33:24,300 --> 02:33:25,920
are there any other questions you have

3318
02:33:25,920 --> 02:33:27,479
anything else no I'm sorry I just wanted

3319
02:33:27,479 --> 02:33:28,859
to put that out there I did my due

3320
02:33:28,859 --> 02:33:30,060
diligence

3321
02:33:30,060 --> 02:33:32,809
any questions

3322
02:33:32,819 --> 02:33:41,809
um

3323
02:33:41,819 --> 02:33:44,280
the next item on the agenda is a Seeker

3324
02:33:44,280 --> 02:33:45,840
for building changes for banquet

3325
02:33:45,840 --> 02:33:53,740
facilities Miss DIA

3326
02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:55,700
[Music]

3327
02:33:55,700 --> 02:34:00,180
so we've completed the 30-day secret

3328
02:34:00,180 --> 02:34:02,520
review city council as the lead Agency

3329
02:34:02,520 --> 02:34:04,920
for the zoning coaches for Bank

3330
02:34:04,920 --> 02:34:06,660
facilities been discussed before with

3331
02:34:06,660 --> 02:34:09,479
the public hearing is held and so the

3332
02:34:09,479 --> 02:34:11,040
first action would be

3333
02:34:11,040 --> 02:34:13,819
um like issuing the negative declaration

3334
02:34:13,819 --> 02:34:18,050
for Seeker

3335
02:34:18,060 --> 02:34:26,230
have any questions

3336
02:34:26,240 --> 02:34:28,979
and next item agenda remind you donate

3337
02:34:28,979 --> 02:34:30,960
for change the language facility and

3338
02:34:30,960 --> 02:34:33,180
private clubs for a lot of them it's

3339
02:34:33,180 --> 02:34:35,880
just a reminder yep so reminders um once

3340
02:34:35,880 --> 02:34:38,220
The Seekers passed then you would pass

3341
02:34:38,220 --> 02:34:40,680
the amendment to his own program as

3342
02:34:40,680 --> 02:34:42,660
outlined anybody have any questions

3343
02:34:42,660 --> 02:34:44,000
around that

3344
02:34:44,000 --> 02:34:48,000
Mr Chipotle clarification the city

3345
02:34:48,000 --> 02:34:51,359
council approved the um

3346
02:34:51,359 --> 02:34:53,580
I think what Mr Marty presented earlier

3347
02:34:53,580 --> 02:34:56,100
related to the change to the certificate

3348
02:34:56,100 --> 02:34:58,920
of use process that referred to a

3349
02:34:58,920 --> 02:35:00,600
definition that is part of this code

3350
02:35:00,600 --> 02:35:03,000
change there's nothing that would

3351
02:35:03,000 --> 02:35:05,760
prevent the council to issue the deck

3352
02:35:05,760 --> 02:35:07,740
and also pass the ordinance at the

3353
02:35:07,740 --> 02:35:10,620
meeting on Monday that the council isn't

3354
02:35:10,620 --> 02:35:14,939
going to be doing the the passage to the

3355
02:35:14,939 --> 02:35:17,420
amendment to the zoning ordinance

3356
02:35:17,420 --> 02:35:19,979
at that time I would request that the

3357
02:35:19,979 --> 02:35:22,740
council again wait on the change to the

3358
02:35:22,740 --> 02:35:25,520
certificate of use because it does again

3359
02:35:25,520 --> 02:35:28,620
refer to a section that doesn't yet

3360
02:35:28,620 --> 02:35:30,600
exist in the code as it relates to the

3361
02:35:30,600 --> 02:35:33,120
definition so the set the council can

3362
02:35:33,120 --> 02:35:35,280
take action at this next meeting on

3363
02:35:35,280 --> 02:35:37,560
Monday to do the negative declaration

3364
02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:39,899
for the resolution and then pass the

3365
02:35:39,899 --> 02:35:41,700
ordinance

3366
02:35:41,700 --> 02:35:43,620
look at the Zone chair the zoning change

3367
02:35:43,620 --> 02:35:45,720
oh so you at first I thought you said we

3368
02:35:45,720 --> 02:35:47,160
should you no I'm saying you can what

3369
02:35:47,160 --> 02:35:49,260
I'm saying is it I wouldn't you have to

3370
02:35:49,260 --> 02:35:50,880
I wouldn't move ahead with a certificate

3371
02:35:50,880 --> 02:35:52,500
of use if you're in a change

3372
02:35:52,500 --> 02:35:54,300
if you're not going to move ahead with

3373
02:35:54,300 --> 02:35:56,880
the zoning change for death defining big

3374
02:35:56,880 --> 02:35:59,220
wood facilities private clubs and lodges

3375
02:35:59,220 --> 02:36:03,060
because the certificate of use refers to

3376
02:36:03,060 --> 02:36:05,640
this change so maybe this should be done

3377
02:36:05,640 --> 02:36:07,740
first so that way but what I'm saying is

3378
02:36:07,740 --> 02:36:10,740
I'm sorry what I'm saying is

3379
02:36:10,740 --> 02:36:14,280
um the council can move ahead with

3380
02:36:14,280 --> 02:36:16,160
um both doing the negative declaration

3381
02:36:16,160 --> 02:36:19,500
and passing the ordinance amending the

3382
02:36:19,500 --> 02:36:22,200
zoning code at Monday's meeting and that

3383
02:36:22,200 --> 02:36:24,180
wouldn't necessitate then holding off on

3384
02:36:24,180 --> 02:36:26,520
the certificate of use uh ordinance

3385
02:36:26,520 --> 02:36:28,319
change

3386
02:36:28,319 --> 02:36:29,700
um

3387
02:36:29,700 --> 02:36:30,840
yeah

3388
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:32,700
but if the council is going to wait on

3389
02:36:32,700 --> 02:36:34,140
the zoning change then it should also

3390
02:36:34,140 --> 02:36:37,380
wait on the certificate of use change

3391
02:36:37,380 --> 02:36:38,700
I don't think we're waiting on the

3392
02:36:38,700 --> 02:36:41,340
zoning change I just wasn't sure because

3393
02:36:41,340 --> 02:36:44,700
it was it was a reminder and the

3394
02:36:44,700 --> 02:36:45,899
implication I want to make sure the

3395
02:36:45,899 --> 02:36:49,080
application wasn't uh to wait no no that

3396
02:36:49,080 --> 02:36:50,399
was just saying the public hearing just

3397
02:36:50,399 --> 02:36:51,479
reminded the public hearing already

3398
02:36:51,479 --> 02:36:52,460
happened

3399
02:36:52,460 --> 02:36:57,889
okay sure all right

3400
02:36:57,899 --> 02:36:59,580
so that was it for the Builder

3401
02:36:59,580 --> 02:37:01,080
facilities yes

3402
02:37:01,080 --> 02:37:04,870
um

3403
02:37:04,880 --> 02:37:09,359
oh yeah so I need a motion to okay so

3404
02:37:09,359 --> 02:37:11,540
second

3405
02:37:11,540 --> 02:37:13,979
all right that's the only changes item

3406
02:37:13,979 --> 02:37:15,300
number five

3407
02:37:15,300 --> 02:37:18,600
item number six you're gonna be here for

3408
02:37:18,600 --> 02:37:19,560
a little while

3409
02:37:19,560 --> 02:37:21,000
um the secret Amendment to the

3410
02:37:21,000 --> 02:37:23,819
overlaying Historic District 308 State

3411
02:37:23,819 --> 02:37:25,020
Street yep

3412
02:37:25,020 --> 02:37:26,180
um

3413
02:37:26,180 --> 02:37:28,740
so this is related to the overlay

3414
02:37:28,740 --> 02:37:30,899
District at three-way State Street once

3415
02:37:30,899 --> 02:37:31,620
again

3416
02:37:31,620 --> 02:37:33,720
um we've completed the 30-day secret

3417
02:37:33,720 --> 02:37:35,220
review with the city council estate

3418
02:37:35,220 --> 02:37:37,439
agency you would pass the negative

3419
02:37:37,439 --> 02:37:39,300
declaration in terms of environmental

3420
02:37:39,300 --> 02:37:41,220
impacts

3421
02:37:41,220 --> 02:37:45,429
any questions

3422
02:37:45,439 --> 02:37:49,560
so second all's in favor all right item

3423
02:37:49,560 --> 02:37:51,420
number seven is the reminder with the

3424
02:37:51,420 --> 02:37:53,340
amendment to the oh

3425
02:37:53,340 --> 02:37:55,140
it's really State Street in the public

3426
02:37:55,140 --> 02:37:57,660
hearing is held on January 9th perfect

3427
02:37:57,660 --> 02:38:00,780
so this is just approving that Amendment

3428
02:38:00,780 --> 02:38:02,640
I'll understand oh are there any

3429
02:38:02,640 --> 02:38:04,700
questions

3430
02:38:04,700 --> 02:38:09,000
so second all those in favor

3431
02:38:09,000 --> 02:38:10,740
item number eight

3432
02:38:10,740 --> 02:38:13,080
purchase option agreement for various

3433
02:38:13,080 --> 02:38:15,600
properties with uh Capital Region land

3434
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:18,420
bank for the revitalization of Summit

3435
02:38:18,420 --> 02:38:21,469
Avenue this year

3436
02:38:21,479 --> 02:38:24,780
okay so we um we're here tonight we have

3437
02:38:24,780 --> 02:38:26,580
some of our partners here in the room as

3438
02:38:26,580 --> 02:38:27,600
well

3439
02:38:27,600 --> 02:38:29,520
um the city of Schenectady and the land

3440
02:38:29,520 --> 02:38:31,920
bank have partnered on various

3441
02:38:31,920 --> 02:38:33,660
neighborhood Improvement projects that

3442
02:38:33,660 --> 02:38:36,960
resulted in removing over 2 200 flighted

3443
02:38:36,960 --> 02:38:39,540
properties in the creation of over 250

3444
02:38:39,540 --> 02:38:41,280
minutes of new housing in multiple

3445
02:38:41,280 --> 02:38:42,899
neighborhoods

3446
02:38:42,899 --> 02:38:46,800
um there is as you are well aware of the

3447
02:38:46,800 --> 02:38:48,420
situation in Summit Ave where the city

3448
02:38:48,420 --> 02:38:51,120
owns a concentration of many vacant

3449
02:38:51,120 --> 02:38:53,939
inflated properties we've been for a

3450
02:38:53,939 --> 02:38:56,399
long time trying to find the right

3451
02:38:56,399 --> 02:38:58,260
opportunity that was a comprehensive

3452
02:38:58,260 --> 02:39:01,700
strategy for redevelopment in this area

3453
02:39:01,700 --> 02:39:05,160
we are working with Partners at MLB and

3454
02:39:05,160 --> 02:39:07,500
kfk who are here tonight as well as

3455
02:39:07,500 --> 02:39:10,859
David from the land bank to discuss this

3456
02:39:10,859 --> 02:39:13,620
proposal which we are excited about

3457
02:39:13,620 --> 02:39:16,200
because it's it's for home ownership so

3458
02:39:16,200 --> 02:39:19,620
this isn't for you know a large

3459
02:39:19,620 --> 02:39:21,420
development this is to create it is

3460
02:39:21,420 --> 02:39:23,819
ourselves but it's for it's for home

3461
02:39:23,819 --> 02:39:25,859
ownership and we're excited about that

3462
02:39:25,859 --> 02:39:27,600
aspect of it so

3463
02:39:27,600 --> 02:39:30,540
um I want to invite Pam swanigan from

3464
02:39:30,540 --> 02:39:33,060
AFA and Damien

3465
02:39:33,060 --> 02:39:34,680
um we have a quick there's just a quick

3466
02:39:34,680 --> 02:39:37,260
presentation here that I'll that will

3467
02:39:37,260 --> 02:39:39,240
let them go through and then we can talk

3468
02:39:39,240 --> 02:39:40,800
about the actual

3469
02:39:40,800 --> 02:39:44,870
um options

3470
02:39:44,880 --> 02:39:46,920
absolutely I'm looking at the pan first

3471
02:39:46,920 --> 02:39:48,899
so

3472
02:39:48,899 --> 02:39:58,929
um aik Property Group

3473
02:39:58,939 --> 02:40:01,979
in general thank you very much this is a

3474
02:40:01,979 --> 02:40:04,439
once in a generation opportunity from my

3475
02:40:04,439 --> 02:40:08,240
perspective as a small uh

3476
02:40:08,240 --> 02:40:12,080
African-American developer in the area

3477
02:40:12,080 --> 02:40:16,560
we're able to create generational wealth

3478
02:40:16,560 --> 02:40:19,620
through creation of new homes

3479
02:40:19,620 --> 02:40:22,439
it's not rentals and the most important

3480
02:40:22,439 --> 02:40:25,680
and exciting part about it is that the

3481
02:40:25,680 --> 02:40:29,600
homes that we sell will be the first

3482
02:40:29,600 --> 02:40:31,680
individuals who live in the neighborhood

3483
02:40:31,680 --> 02:40:34,380
and then we will cast The Net wider but

3484
02:40:34,380 --> 02:40:36,140
we want to focus

3485
02:40:36,140 --> 02:40:38,460
primarily on those who've lived in the

3486
02:40:38,460 --> 02:40:41,819
neighborhood for a while and so um I'm

3487
02:40:41,819 --> 02:40:43,800
gonna

3488
02:40:43,800 --> 02:40:45,359
the gentleman over there I don't

3489
02:40:45,359 --> 02:40:46,560
remember your name you were talking

3490
02:40:46,560 --> 02:40:50,160
about Ami the homes would be affordable

3491
02:40:50,160 --> 02:40:57,180
um 80 Ami and that will make it more

3492
02:40:57,180 --> 02:41:00,540
available and possible for the Neighbors

3493
02:41:00,540 --> 02:41:01,920
so we've been listening to the

3494
02:41:01,920 --> 02:41:03,780
neighborhood and this is what they

3495
02:41:03,780 --> 02:41:06,720
wanted not rentals well we made rentals

3496
02:41:06,720 --> 02:41:09,420
of course but they also need homes that

3497
02:41:09,420 --> 02:41:11,640
they can pass on to the next Generation

3498
02:41:11,640 --> 02:41:13,740
so with that I'll let

3499
02:41:13,740 --> 02:41:14,899
um

3500
02:41:14,899 --> 02:41:17,280
Daniel talked more about the technical

3501
02:41:17,280 --> 02:41:18,720
pieces

3502
02:41:18,720 --> 02:41:19,740
um thank you very much you don't mind

3503
02:41:19,740 --> 02:41:22,260
going back on this live for a moment I

3504
02:41:22,260 --> 02:41:24,720
think that you know I'm especially

3505
02:41:24,720 --> 02:41:26,040
excited about being able to have this

3506
02:41:26,040 --> 02:41:28,920
partnership with aik I think MLB's

3507
02:41:28,920 --> 02:41:32,040
Mission and aik's Mission are very

3508
02:41:32,040 --> 02:41:34,020
synergistic in this particular situation

3509
02:41:34,020 --> 02:41:36,359
and between the two of us what we're

3510
02:41:36,359 --> 02:41:37,859
really looking at doing is improving the

3511
02:41:37,859 --> 02:41:39,540
city is connected in one neighborhood at

3512
02:41:39,540 --> 02:41:41,700
a time we're hoping to create a program

3513
02:41:41,700 --> 02:41:44,700
that's going to be reused throughout all

3514
02:41:44,700 --> 02:41:46,560
Schenectady and have something that is

3515
02:41:46,560 --> 02:41:48,899
going to be successful and as Pam said

3516
02:41:48,899 --> 02:41:50,640
really create that generation of wealth

3517
02:41:50,640 --> 02:41:52,740
that Equity those homeowner ownership

3518
02:41:52,740 --> 02:41:55,200
homeowner opportunities that we're

3519
02:41:55,200 --> 02:41:57,300
looking to create thank you

3520
02:41:57,300 --> 02:41:59,880
so moving on to some of the specifics of

3521
02:41:59,880 --> 02:42:01,740
it we're looking at 19 Parcels in and

3522
02:42:01,740 --> 02:42:04,080
around 7th Avenue there are 18 that the

3523
02:42:04,080 --> 02:42:05,700
city owns one we're working with the

3524
02:42:05,700 --> 02:42:08,040
park with the county

3525
02:42:08,040 --> 02:42:09,660
um you know we are still looking at

3526
02:42:09,660 --> 02:42:12,000
potentially adding additional if that

3527
02:42:12,000 --> 02:42:13,620
works but from the moment we really want

3528
02:42:13,620 --> 02:42:15,200
to get these under control

3529
02:42:15,200 --> 02:42:18,120
the district is R1 and R2 zelding we

3530
02:42:18,120 --> 02:42:20,819
have a little over 12 Hertz total linear

3531
02:42:20,819 --> 02:42:23,939
photo Frontage you know kind of

3532
02:42:23,939 --> 02:42:25,800
hearkening back to the sidewalk

3533
02:42:25,800 --> 02:42:27,300
initiative we're going to be replacing

3534
02:42:27,300 --> 02:42:29,640
the sidewalks in front of the homes that

3535
02:42:29,640 --> 02:42:31,859
were renovating but obviously we would

3536
02:42:31,859 --> 02:42:33,960
still love to see kind of a continued

3537
02:42:33,960 --> 02:42:36,780
Community Renewal and support so having

3538
02:42:36,780 --> 02:42:38,819
something that allows you to kind of

3539
02:42:38,819 --> 02:42:41,040
redo that whole streetscape would really

3540
02:42:41,040 --> 02:42:43,140
be beneficial across the board

3541
02:42:43,140 --> 02:42:45,840
we're looking to do 21 proposed

3542
02:42:45,840 --> 02:42:48,300
structures of those structures that will

3543
02:42:48,300 --> 02:42:50,340
be 41 living units so we're looking at

3544
02:42:50,340 --> 02:42:54,660
doing about 20 attached duplex style but

3545
02:42:54,660 --> 02:42:56,460
they will be built and sold as single

3546
02:42:56,460 --> 02:42:58,140
families with a full two-hour rate in

3547
02:42:58,140 --> 02:43:00,600
between the two families we've seen this

3548
02:43:00,600 --> 02:43:02,580
done in some larger instances in the

3549
02:43:02,580 --> 02:43:04,380
suburbs we're trying to make home

3550
02:43:04,380 --> 02:43:05,700
ownership a little bit more affordable

3551
02:43:05,700 --> 02:43:07,439
and we're kind of paring it down and

3552
02:43:07,439 --> 02:43:10,140
focusing on you know targeting people

3553
02:43:10,140 --> 02:43:13,500
who are making between 40 and 65 000 a

3554
02:43:13,500 --> 02:43:16,740
year to be able to afford that so we're

3555
02:43:16,740 --> 02:43:19,620
targeting schenectadys 80 Ami not the

3556
02:43:19,620 --> 02:43:23,720
whole census trap and we're essentially

3557
02:43:23,720 --> 02:43:25,580
performing

3558
02:43:25,580 --> 02:43:28,260
home ownership opportunities where you

3559
02:43:28,260 --> 02:43:30,240
can own your own home less than twelve

3560
02:43:30,240 --> 02:43:32,939
hundred dollars a month Piti working

3561
02:43:32,939 --> 02:43:34,920
with Metroplex on on some of the

3562
02:43:34,920 --> 02:43:36,120
particulars of it but we're really

3563
02:43:36,120 --> 02:43:39,660
excited to be at that Target price point

3564
02:43:39,660 --> 02:43:42,660
so you know that's kind of the overall

3565
02:43:42,660 --> 02:43:44,460
we are working on several different

3566
02:43:44,460 --> 02:43:47,220
initiatives with this program uh we are

3567
02:43:47,220 --> 02:43:49,740
examinating examining modular housing as

3568
02:43:49,740 --> 02:43:52,140
an opportunity we're examining smarter

3569
02:43:52,140 --> 02:43:54,899
networks we are examining we had really

3570
02:43:54,899 --> 02:43:57,180
anything that we can do to bring the

3571
02:43:57,180 --> 02:43:59,520
cost of living and the cost of home

3572
02:43:59,520 --> 02:44:01,979
ownership down for the end user the main

3573
02:44:01,979 --> 02:44:04,580
goal at the end of the day is to provide

3574
02:44:04,580 --> 02:44:07,859
affordable TurnKey solutions for again

3575
02:44:07,859 --> 02:44:11,160
that Target popular is 40 to 65 000 a

3576
02:44:11,160 --> 02:44:14,040
year and one thing that's very near and

3577
02:44:14,040 --> 02:44:16,319
dear to Ron Gardner and of course the

3578
02:44:16,319 --> 02:44:19,020
mayor and everyone else's heart is the

3579
02:44:19,020 --> 02:44:21,899
need to make sure that the mwve

3580
02:44:21,899 --> 02:44:24,960
community is included during the

3581
02:44:24,960 --> 02:44:27,300
construction process and we're going to

3582
02:44:27,300 --> 02:44:30,200
try what we can to have

3583
02:44:30,200 --> 02:44:32,899
workers from seat

3584
02:44:32,899 --> 02:44:35,160
and also

3585
02:44:35,160 --> 02:44:37,979
movement of protege opportunities where

3586
02:44:37,979 --> 02:44:42,060
we can to make sure that not only are we

3587
02:44:42,060 --> 02:44:45,479
creating new housing opportunities but

3588
02:44:45,479 --> 02:44:48,600
we want to teach and show those that are

3589
02:44:48,600 --> 02:44:51,439
interested how to actually

3590
02:44:51,439 --> 02:44:53,880
build these homes especially if we're

3591
02:44:53,880 --> 02:44:59,270
able to get the modules

3592
02:44:59,280 --> 02:45:02,340
so from a timeline standpoint you know

3593
02:45:02,340 --> 02:45:04,260
we're looking to essentially get the

3594
02:45:04,260 --> 02:45:06,540
option agreement approved so that we can

3595
02:45:06,540 --> 02:45:08,040
begin to move forward and spending some

3596
02:45:08,040 --> 02:45:10,380
hard cash doing due diligences getting

3597
02:45:10,380 --> 02:45:12,240
our drawings together environmentals

3598
02:45:12,240 --> 02:45:15,060
working on the actual entitlement

3599
02:45:15,060 --> 02:45:16,920
um you know the process and David will

3600
02:45:16,920 --> 02:45:19,140
of course directly if I'm wrong but you

3601
02:45:19,140 --> 02:45:21,720
know we're essentially asking for the uh

3602
02:45:21,720 --> 02:45:23,040
an option with the city for the land

3603
02:45:23,040 --> 02:45:24,960
bank and then they're looking off from

3604
02:45:24,960 --> 02:45:27,060
the rnt to kind of turn around and we'll

3605
02:45:27,060 --> 02:45:29,040
close all of that at once and we're

3606
02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:36,070
looking to be closing in July

3607
02:45:36,080 --> 02:45:38,160
we've already had a lot of discussions

3608
02:45:38,160 --> 02:45:40,260
with financing Partners already we do

3609
02:45:40,260 --> 02:45:42,899
have turn sheets in place from Banks

3610
02:45:42,899 --> 02:45:45,359
we've met with HCR on the particular

3611
02:45:45,359 --> 02:45:46,920
subsidy that we're looking at using this

3612
02:45:46,920 --> 02:45:48,240
is going to be a new subsidy to

3613
02:45:48,240 --> 02:45:49,740
affordable home ownership opportunity

3614
02:45:49,740 --> 02:45:50,720
program

3615
02:45:50,720 --> 02:45:53,040
we're really excited to be able to take

3616
02:45:53,040 --> 02:45:55,439
that subsidy and push the sale prices

3617
02:45:55,439 --> 02:45:59,640
down very aggressively like I said 150

3618
02:45:59,640 --> 02:46:03,479
000 for home ownership and really we

3619
02:46:03,479 --> 02:46:05,880
want to get shovels in the ground and

3620
02:46:05,880 --> 02:46:07,680
start kind of working this July and

3621
02:46:07,680 --> 02:46:09,960
August so that's kind of we've prefaced

3622
02:46:09,960 --> 02:46:12,840
ourselves to do and then be able to have

3623
02:46:12,840 --> 02:46:14,100
housing up and running in the first

3624
02:46:14,100 --> 02:46:17,210
quarter of next year

3625
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:20,399
exactly I I just wanted to to clarify

3626
02:46:20,399 --> 02:46:22,979
that we're so we're looking to enter an

3627
02:46:22,979 --> 02:46:24,660
option agreement with the capital region

3628
02:46:24,660 --> 02:46:26,819
land bank for these properties they are

3629
02:46:26,819 --> 02:46:28,439
going to be working on the demolitions

3630
02:46:28,439 --> 02:46:30,840
and some of the demolitions and asbestos

3631
02:46:30,840 --> 02:46:32,880
have been in different things like that

3632
02:46:32,880 --> 02:46:36,479
so that that is the ask is that we enter

3633
02:46:36,479 --> 02:46:38,160
um an option agreement with the land

3634
02:46:38,160 --> 02:46:41,349
bank

3635
02:46:41,359 --> 02:46:45,479
closer so David at The Landings on David

3636
02:46:45,479 --> 02:46:48,479
at Metro Place yeah so you might want to

3637
02:46:48,479 --> 02:46:49,920
know why why are we really involved here

3638
02:46:49,920 --> 02:46:51,600
so the governor obviously has put a lot

3639
02:46:51,600 --> 02:46:53,819
of money into affordable housing uh the

3640
02:46:53,819 --> 02:46:55,740
ahop program affordable home ownership

3641
02:46:55,740 --> 02:46:58,260
program is is a new initiative that

3642
02:46:58,260 --> 02:47:00,840
allows you to build Roundup housing

3643
02:47:00,840 --> 02:47:02,280
which is great you know it's more energy

3644
02:47:02,280 --> 02:47:03,780
efficient it's very very hard to get

3645
02:47:03,780 --> 02:47:05,580
some of our properties up to energy code

3646
02:47:05,580 --> 02:47:08,819
so it's it's a new program also there's

3647
02:47:08,819 --> 02:47:10,200
been a new commitment from the state for

3648
02:47:10,200 --> 02:47:12,660
land Banks we started receiving some of

3649
02:47:12,660 --> 02:47:14,520
our operations funding again we added

3650
02:47:14,520 --> 02:47:16,200
about a year or two off from when some

3651
02:47:16,200 --> 02:47:18,720
of our original funding had uh had dried

3652
02:47:18,720 --> 02:47:21,720
up and we have a phase two uh program

3653
02:47:21,720 --> 02:47:23,280
that was just announced and we'll be

3654
02:47:23,280 --> 02:47:26,160
applying for it in March for additional

3655
02:47:26,160 --> 02:47:28,620
Project funding so you know there's I

3656
02:47:28,620 --> 02:47:30,960
think we identified a ninth uh property

3657
02:47:30,960 --> 02:47:34,439
that should come down it's unsafe uh

3658
02:47:34,439 --> 02:47:35,880
it's been sitting there blighted for too

3659
02:47:35,880 --> 02:47:37,859
long it will allow the land bank to

3660
02:47:37,859 --> 02:47:39,720
participate in taking that demolition

3661
02:47:39,720 --> 02:47:41,640
Mountain you know we're pretty good at

3662
02:47:41,640 --> 02:47:43,979
and we'll be very excited and you know

3663
02:47:43,979 --> 02:47:46,020
make our uh our application even more

3664
02:47:46,020 --> 02:47:47,880
successful the state knowing that we

3665
02:47:47,880 --> 02:47:50,220
have two terrific developers partnering

3666
02:47:50,220 --> 02:47:52,680
uh behind us to uh to make this new

3667
02:47:52,680 --> 02:47:54,840
homeownership opportunity so if you have

3668
02:47:54,840 --> 02:48:03,910
any questions for me please let me know

3669
02:48:03,920 --> 02:48:07,380
so um I know that Miss swanigan talked

3670
02:48:07,380 --> 02:48:09,660
about like Partnerships and making sure

3671
02:48:09,660 --> 02:48:10,859
homeownership and people from the

3672
02:48:10,859 --> 02:48:12,840
community can you talk more about the

3673
02:48:12,840 --> 02:48:14,160
initiatives that you really talked about

3674
02:48:14,160 --> 02:48:16,439
doing parallel in terms of Preparing

3675
02:48:16,439 --> 02:48:18,540
People while you're doing the work oh

3676
02:48:18,540 --> 02:48:21,000
thank you for that question

3677
02:48:21,000 --> 02:48:23,760
um that's really important

3678
02:48:23,760 --> 02:48:27,060
not only will we be partnering with bcni

3679
02:48:27,060 --> 02:48:31,680
to do the initial first-time homebuyer

3680
02:48:31,680 --> 02:48:34,800
workshops but we've reached out to you

3681
02:48:34,800 --> 02:48:37,800
Inc because once you get in the home you

3682
02:48:37,800 --> 02:48:39,359
also want to be able to stay in the home

3683
02:48:39,359 --> 02:48:42,420
so that means you want to learn the

3684
02:48:42,420 --> 02:48:45,840
basics of budgeting and so we have

3685
02:48:45,840 --> 02:48:49,380
partnered with uh Angela Tatum and and

3686
02:48:49,380 --> 02:48:54,120
her husband there's a non-for-profit organization and they

3687
02:48:54,120 --> 02:48:55,920
do such terrific work you should go to

3688
02:48:55,920 --> 02:48:58,439
the website it's a beautiful website and

3689
02:48:58,439 --> 02:49:00,840
we will be partnering with them and

3690
02:49:00,840 --> 02:49:05,100
making sure it's um eight or 12 week

3691
02:49:05,100 --> 02:49:07,680
Workshop where they break down their

3692
02:49:07,680 --> 02:49:10,319
budget know how much they need in order

3693
02:49:10,319 --> 02:49:13,140
to meet with the mortgage so we want

3694
02:49:13,140 --> 02:49:16,140
them to not just be able to buy the home

3695
02:49:16,140 --> 02:49:18,420
we want them to be able to pay the bills

3696
02:49:18,420 --> 02:49:23,160
and and stay in the home and one last

3697
02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:25,020
thing I know that you've probably even

3698
02:49:25,020 --> 02:49:26,460
talked about it that much but there's

3699
02:49:26,460 --> 02:49:29,399
Energy Efficiency Focus from the state

3700
02:49:29,399 --> 02:49:31,620
for that ahot program so we're able to

3701
02:49:31,620 --> 02:49:36,000
maximize the amount per unit and so we

3702
02:49:36,000 --> 02:49:38,100
will be focusing on that to help to help

3703
02:49:38,100 --> 02:49:40,859
keep the utility costs down so I'm not

3704
02:49:40,859 --> 02:49:45,780
sure that that answers your question it does it does okay I just want to

3705
02:49:45,780 --> 02:49:47,880
clarify we want to clarify that you're

3706
02:49:47,880 --> 02:49:49,740
paying for these properties they

3707
02:49:49,740 --> 02:49:58,630
purchased by one time oh

3708
02:49:58,640 --> 02:50:03,000
so the intent is 3 500 uh per lot uh

3709
02:50:03,000 --> 02:50:05,220
what would happen is uh if we move

3710
02:50:05,220 --> 02:50:07,740
forward uh and the problem which it will

3711
02:50:07,740 --> 02:50:10,140
uh the 3500 will come back to the city

3712
02:50:10,140 --> 02:50:11,640
the land bank is not trying to get any

3713
02:50:11,640 --> 02:50:12,899
proceeds from this we're just trying to

3714
02:50:12,899 --> 02:50:14,939
bring in some additional resources I

3715
02:50:14,939 --> 02:50:16,260
just wanted to make sure that it was

3716
02:50:16,260 --> 02:50:20,830
good enough very good point yeah

3717
02:50:20,840 --> 02:50:23,520
and you did talk about

3718
02:50:23,520 --> 02:50:25,439
um hiring local women and the

3719
02:50:25,439 --> 02:50:27,120
organizations that you you were looking

3720
02:50:27,120 --> 02:50:27,920
at

3721
02:50:27,920 --> 02:50:30,120
and then the sidewalk so thank you for

3722
02:50:30,120 --> 02:50:31,080
bringing that up because that was

3723
02:50:31,080 --> 02:50:32,760
another part of our conversation and

3724
02:50:32,760 --> 02:50:33,600
also

3725
02:50:33,600 --> 02:50:35,880
you you'd mentioned that you would want

3726
02:50:35,880 --> 02:50:38,880
people to maybe kind of um

3727
02:50:38,880 --> 02:50:41,340
kind of give it kind of publicizes where

3728
02:50:41,340 --> 02:50:42,780
he's looking for people who are looking

3729
02:50:42,780 --> 02:50:44,340
to die

3730
02:50:44,340 --> 02:50:46,260
um to be homeowners in this process so

3731
02:50:46,260 --> 02:50:49,080
will there be a way that we we can be of

3732
02:50:49,080 --> 02:50:50,580
assistance with that how would that work

3733
02:50:50,580 --> 02:50:52,380
yes so

3734
02:50:52,380 --> 02:50:55,439
um working in the m and wbe field for

3735
02:50:55,439 --> 02:50:57,540
decades with the state I know how

3736
02:50:57,540 --> 02:50:59,600
important Outreach is in the community

3737
02:50:59,600 --> 02:51:04,020
and so we're looking to partner with any

3738
02:51:04,020 --> 02:51:08,040
of the local influencers or people who

3739
02:51:08,040 --> 02:51:13,939
have nice oh who have the reputation and the stature in the community to help

3740
02:51:13,939 --> 02:51:17,580
bring this program to them so we can

3741
02:51:17,580 --> 02:51:19,620
start the bedding we'd like to start the

3742
02:51:19,620 --> 02:51:21,260
vetting tomorrow

3743
02:51:21,260 --> 02:51:23,520
because we really need to sell the homes

3744
02:51:23,520 --> 02:51:26,700
once we built and and we expect that it

3745
02:51:26,700 --> 02:51:31,560
may take up to nine to 12 months to get some people ready to actually

3746
02:51:31,560 --> 02:51:33,060
purchase their own prospective home

3747
02:51:33,060 --> 02:51:35,160
buyers so we're looking for you to

3748
02:51:35,160 --> 02:51:36,840
recommend

3749
02:51:36,840 --> 02:51:39,420
um individuals in the community not

3750
02:51:39,420 --> 02:51:41,280
necessarily just from the churches but

3751
02:51:41,280 --> 02:51:45,000
other community activists who would like

3752
02:51:45,000 --> 02:51:47,160
to partner with us I would love to sit

3753
02:51:47,160 --> 02:51:48,899
and have coffee with them and we can go

3754
02:51:48,899 --> 02:51:54,790
from there

3755
02:51:54,800 --> 02:51:57,060
neighborhoods Incorporated the first

3756
02:51:57,060 --> 02:51:59,520
time home ownership classes uh they have

3757
02:51:59,520 --> 02:52:01,920
a wealth of information that can be get

3758
02:52:01,920 --> 02:52:03,180
people prepared so that when they're

3759
02:52:03,180 --> 02:52:04,740
looking uh to make their first home

3760
02:52:04,740 --> 02:52:06,840
purchase hopefully one of these uh

3761
02:52:06,840 --> 02:52:07,920
they'll have some down payment

3762
02:52:07,920 --> 02:52:09,479
assistance and other resources available

3763
02:52:09,479 --> 02:52:12,420
so those programs already exist and if

3764
02:52:12,420 --> 02:52:14,340
people were to contact me or Christians

3765
02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:15,660
department or better neighborhoods

3766
02:52:15,660 --> 02:52:17,399
directly they could attract you to them

3767
02:52:17,399 --> 02:52:19,920
so the homes you described early similar

3768
02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:21,120
to the ones where you said that because

3769
02:52:21,120 --> 02:52:22,740
you said that you could do they be side

3770
02:52:22,740 --> 02:52:24,000
by side but you could buy one or the

3771
02:52:24,000 --> 02:52:25,319
other are they similar to what they did

3772
02:52:25,319 --> 02:52:27,240
on Hamilton Street with those houses

3773
02:52:27,240 --> 02:52:32,110
there are you familiar with them

3774
02:52:32,120 --> 02:52:35,700
so if you're still there yeah I think

3775
02:52:35,700 --> 02:52:39,060
it's a similar model I'm particularly

3776
02:52:39,060 --> 02:52:40,740
excited a few of the duplexes would be

3777
02:52:40,740 --> 02:52:42,300
sold to a single buyer so they could

3778
02:52:42,300 --> 02:52:45,660
possibly have some rental income or you

3779
02:52:45,660 --> 02:52:47,399
know a different multi-generational

3780
02:52:47,399 --> 02:52:49,439
situation or something like that but

3781
02:52:49,439 --> 02:52:51,000
yeah I think if you're still little bit

3782
02:52:51,000 --> 02:52:52,760
of work to do in the design

3783
02:52:52,760 --> 02:52:56,870
but that is the concept

3784
02:52:56,880 --> 02:52:58,740
another question can't remember this

3785
02:52:58,740 --> 02:53:01,979
love so um I'm wondering and I'm

3786
02:53:01,979 --> 02:53:04,800
wondering you're talking about focusing

3787
02:53:04,800 --> 02:53:07,620
on people that live in the neighborhood

3788
02:53:07,620 --> 02:53:10,560
so I'm all for that I think that's a

3789
02:53:10,560 --> 02:53:12,120
great approach

3790
02:53:12,120 --> 02:53:14,160
um wondering like how are we defining

3791
02:53:14,160 --> 02:53:16,920
those in the neighborhood and are we

3792
02:53:16,920 --> 02:53:18,899
able to do that I guess that was kind of

3793
02:53:18,899 --> 02:53:31,090
my question for you for you if

3794
02:53:31,100 --> 02:53:34,439
fair housing laws take precedence

3795
02:53:34,439 --> 02:53:40,080
equipment right but we do Outreach and

3796
02:53:40,080 --> 02:53:43,380
we start we start with the people in the

3797
02:53:43,380 --> 02:53:45,120
neighborhood who asked

3798
02:53:45,120 --> 02:53:47,760
to be able to buy homes where many of

3799
02:53:47,760 --> 02:53:49,560
their families have lived for decades

3800
02:53:49,560 --> 02:53:52,319
and generations and I think it's only

3801
02:53:52,319 --> 02:53:54,960
right to bring it to them and then we

3802
02:53:54,960 --> 02:53:57,300
cast The Net as wide as the market will

3803
02:53:57,300 --> 02:53:58,380
allow

3804
02:53:58,380 --> 02:54:01,500
okay yeah I I agree I agree with that at

3805
02:54:01,500 --> 02:54:03,180
least I'm going to I just you know for

3806
02:54:03,180 --> 02:54:04,080
me

3807
02:54:04,080 --> 02:54:06,180
quite frankly I want to know because

3808
02:54:06,180 --> 02:54:08,220
this sounds great this sounds amazing

3809
02:54:08,220 --> 02:54:10,080
you know and I'm very excited I share

3810
02:54:10,080 --> 02:54:11,880
your excitement around the project I

3811
02:54:11,880 --> 02:54:14,399
just I'm looking for those um what you

3812
02:54:14,399 --> 02:54:16,439
know what we might describe as the guard

3813
02:54:16,439 --> 02:54:18,420
rails of equity for this to actually

3814
02:54:18,420 --> 02:54:21,300
play out in its intended purpose

3815
02:54:21,300 --> 02:54:25,800
um you know other scenarios you know not

3816
02:54:25,800 --> 02:54:27,240
hearing the financing is connected of

3817
02:54:27,240 --> 02:54:29,580
course just another scenario sometimes

3818
02:54:29,580 --> 02:54:32,340
um these projects are taken out in with

3819
02:54:32,340 --> 02:54:34,439
a certain energy and a certain uh

3820
02:54:34,439 --> 02:54:37,380
culture about it and then

3821
02:54:37,380 --> 02:54:38,760
you know hear things like well the

3822
02:54:38,760 --> 02:54:40,140
Market's not there kind of like some of

3823
02:54:40,140 --> 02:54:41,279
the feedback we hear and we talk about

3824
02:54:41,279 --> 02:54:43,520
like section free workers like well

3825
02:54:43,520 --> 02:54:45,960
there's none here so you know even

3826
02:54:45,960 --> 02:54:50,760
though this money should be invested in the community which are often

3827
02:54:50,760 --> 02:54:52,859
marginalized communities that money

3828
02:54:52,859 --> 02:54:54,740
um as a matter of

3829
02:54:54,740 --> 02:54:57,660
uh you know kind of practice ends up

3830
02:54:57,660 --> 02:54:59,880
leaving so that's what my last question

3831
02:54:59,880 --> 02:55:01,740
was about not about the great and

3832
02:55:01,740 --> 02:55:03,300
amazing work that you're planning to do

3833
02:55:03,300 --> 02:55:05,160
here

3834
02:55:05,160 --> 02:55:07,080
um I I think I would like to respond by

3835
02:55:07,080 --> 02:55:08,340
saying that

3836
02:55:08,340 --> 02:55:11,060
you know aik's track record

3837
02:55:11,060 --> 02:55:13,680
and even relatively short of that time

3838
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:15,479
has been very terrified and it's been

3839
02:55:15,479 --> 02:55:16,680
very good in what they're bringing to

3840
02:55:16,680 --> 02:55:17,580
the table

3841
02:55:17,580 --> 02:55:21,000
on MLB has a 75-year track record of

3842
02:55:21,000 --> 02:55:24,000
integrity and working with people and

3843
02:55:24,000 --> 02:55:25,560
delivering on what we've promised that's

3844
02:55:25,560 --> 02:55:26,939
why I've nobody's been able to be around

3845
02:55:26,939 --> 02:55:30,840
for 75 years so I would say that you

3846
02:55:30,840 --> 02:55:33,300
know your concerns are not invalid you

3847
02:55:33,300 --> 02:55:34,979
know there's a lot of times where you

3848
02:55:34,979 --> 02:55:36,240
know it feels like a mating switch

3849
02:55:36,240 --> 02:55:38,460
sometimes there's there's a reason that

3850
02:55:38,460 --> 02:55:39,840
sometimes the developers the bad guys

3851
02:55:39,840 --> 02:55:41,520
are the RoboCop movies right like you

3852
02:55:41,520 --> 02:55:44,160
don't want to have that you know massive

3853
02:55:44,160 --> 02:55:46,560
just flip of expectations

3854
02:55:46,560 --> 02:55:48,540
um so I think we're very sensitive to

3855
02:55:48,540 --> 02:55:50,100
that and we're really looking forward to

3856
02:55:50,100 --> 02:55:51,660
the opportunity to deliver on the

3857
02:55:51,660 --> 02:55:53,040
product that they're uh that we're

3858
02:55:53,040 --> 02:55:56,330
presenting today

3859
02:55:56,340 --> 02:55:58,500
yeah

3860
02:55:58,500 --> 02:55:59,640
um so definitely thank you for the

3861
02:55:59,640 --> 02:56:01,800
presentation and the background and

3862
02:56:01,800 --> 02:56:05,880
context to what the intent is with this project Endeavor and definitely

3863
02:56:05,880 --> 02:56:07,200
have a lot of the efforts to see

3864
02:56:07,200 --> 02:56:09,420
replicated throughout the community I

3865
02:56:09,420 --> 02:56:10,740
definitely think it's important to

3866
02:56:10,740 --> 02:56:12,420
highlight how we can partner with some

3867
02:56:12,420 --> 02:56:14,580
of the other Generations but I think

3868
02:56:14,580 --> 02:56:16,319
part of the uh

3869
02:56:16,319 --> 02:56:19,620
um the Allure of New York City is how

3870
02:56:19,620 --> 02:56:22,080
there are families that can cite that my

3871
02:56:22,080 --> 02:56:24,300
grandfather built or worked on that

3872
02:56:24,300 --> 02:56:26,520
skyscraper and I think that that's an

3873
02:56:26,520 --> 02:56:29,160
important aspect to reach this next

3874
02:56:29,160 --> 02:56:31,859
Generation to let them know and have

3875
02:56:31,859 --> 02:56:34,080
that buy-in to be those boots on the

3876
02:56:34,080 --> 02:56:36,420
ground for like a better words but um

3877
02:56:36,420 --> 02:56:38,220
definitely the Schenectady has a

3878
02:56:38,220 --> 02:56:39,960
plethora of resources available so are

3879
02:56:39,960 --> 02:56:42,060
you still open to other Workforce

3880
02:56:42,060 --> 02:56:44,640
Development programs that might be

3881
02:56:44,640 --> 02:56:46,080
interested in partnering with you

3882
02:56:46,080 --> 02:56:48,359
similar to how you envision apartment

3883
02:56:48,359 --> 02:56:50,580
with the seat yeah absolutely I think

3884
02:56:50,580 --> 02:56:52,859
that we you know we have the opportunity

3885
02:56:52,859 --> 02:56:55,979
with this program to work on training

3886
02:56:55,979 --> 02:56:58,520
and those skill sets to the populations

3887
02:56:58,520 --> 02:57:01,439
you know we're currently factoring you

3888
02:57:01,439 --> 02:57:03,960
know building these with union labor

3889
02:57:03,960 --> 02:57:06,180
which is probably something unheard of

3890
02:57:06,180 --> 02:57:07,260
that you're seeing with affordable

3891
02:57:07,260 --> 02:57:08,640
housing and it does cost a little more

3892
02:57:08,640 --> 02:57:10,319
to use Beauty labor but the benefit of

3893
02:57:10,319 --> 02:57:12,420
that is that we can bring people in and

3894
02:57:12,420 --> 02:57:16,260
have them be trained by Union Tradesmen

3895
02:57:16,260 --> 02:57:18,240
who have been Carpenters who have really

3896
02:57:18,240 --> 02:57:20,040
been able to do that and get that true

3897
02:57:20,040 --> 02:57:23,100
experience on site and that was one of

3898
02:57:23,100 --> 02:57:25,020
our founding principles when when we

3899
02:57:25,020 --> 02:57:26,340
even first started talking about this

3900
02:57:26,340 --> 02:57:28,439
project with rock Gardner and the

3901
02:57:28,439 --> 02:57:30,000
affirmative action office is to make

3902
02:57:30,000 --> 02:57:32,640
sure that we have a piece of it and

3903
02:57:32,640 --> 02:57:35,100
we're going to continue to add anyone

3904
02:57:35,100 --> 02:57:36,779
who is interested in working with us on

3905
02:57:36,779 --> 02:57:40,020
that that portion of it as well

3906
02:57:40,020 --> 02:57:42,779
Kevin I just want everyone to know how

3907
02:57:42,779 --> 02:57:44,279
only we need it over here I'm sorry I

3908
02:57:44,279 --> 02:57:45,960
just want everyone to know how unique

3909
02:57:45,960 --> 02:57:49,260
this partnership is and how necessary it

3910
02:57:49,260 --> 02:57:52,020
is because a traditional developer won't

3911
02:57:52,020 --> 02:57:54,240
necessarily see enough meat on the bones

3912
02:57:54,240 --> 02:57:57,260
if you will to go into

3913
02:57:57,260 --> 02:57:59,899
an interested in neighborhood

3914
02:57:59,899 --> 02:58:03,859
and build new housing that's quality

3915
02:58:03,859 --> 02:58:08,760
sustainable and energy efficient and the

3916
02:58:08,760 --> 02:58:11,340
ahop program as I said before is a once

3917
02:58:11,340 --> 02:58:13,399
in a generational life

3918
02:58:13,399 --> 02:58:16,680
opportunity for all of us to get behind

3919
02:58:16,680 --> 02:58:19,800
to make sure we make impactful change

3920
02:58:19,800 --> 02:58:22,560
over the next five years because this is

3921
02:58:22,560 --> 02:58:24,660
one of hopel's initiatives

3922
02:58:24,660 --> 02:58:25,979
it

3923
02:58:25,979 --> 02:58:28,620
last I read it will be around for at

3924
02:58:28,620 --> 02:58:30,960
least five years so we need to strike

3925
02:58:30,960 --> 02:58:33,240
while the iron is hot get as many homes

3926
02:58:33,240 --> 02:58:36,600
built as possible and get as many people

3927
02:58:36,600 --> 02:58:40,490
engaged as possible

3928
02:58:40,500 --> 02:58:42,779
and you mentioned unions and so I

3929
02:58:42,779 --> 02:58:44,760
remember in the prior conversation said

3930
02:58:44,760 --> 02:58:46,319
there may be opportunities for people to

3931
02:58:46,319 --> 02:58:47,420
get into

3932
02:58:47,420 --> 02:58:50,040
the union with your assistants through

3933
02:58:50,040 --> 02:58:51,960
working on this project

3934
02:58:51,960 --> 02:58:54,359
uh yeah that's correct we actually we've

3935
02:58:54,359 --> 02:58:56,040
already assisted one individual getting

3936
02:58:56,040 --> 02:58:58,880
into the Union from around the center

3937
02:58:58,880 --> 02:59:01,260
where Jim dazi our president has

3938
02:59:01,260 --> 02:59:04,560
sponsored them and you know that is

3939
02:59:04,560 --> 02:59:06,660
going to or anticipate in continuing

3940
02:59:06,660 --> 02:59:08,760
that initiative as well is that if

3941
02:59:08,760 --> 02:59:11,399
people if you put the work in you have

3942
02:59:11,399 --> 02:59:12,240
to you should have the same

3943
02:59:12,240 --> 02:59:13,680
opportunities that everybody else has

3944
02:59:13,680 --> 02:59:15,660
had and sometimes access to those

3945
02:59:15,660 --> 02:59:18,840
opportunities is not really there so you

3946
02:59:18,840 --> 02:59:21,000
know we really want this to provide the

3947
02:59:21,000 --> 02:59:22,740
access to the opportunities so that you

3948
02:59:22,740 --> 02:59:24,180
put the work in you either do the

3949
02:59:24,180 --> 02:59:26,100
training you're doing the program if

3950
02:59:26,100 --> 02:59:27,420
you're meeting with us you're doing the

3951
02:59:27,420 --> 02:59:30,240
Empowerment Center doing C and you know

3952
02:59:30,240 --> 02:59:31,439
you're not just doing it and they're

3953
02:59:31,439 --> 02:59:37,150
turning around and going okay what now

3954
02:59:37,160 --> 02:59:39,540
skills training program

3955
02:59:39,540 --> 02:59:41,160
um that we started you know this past

3956
02:59:41,160 --> 02:59:44,460
fall and I think I don't know the there

3957
02:59:44,460 --> 02:59:46,920
was maybe just under 30 participants of

3958
02:59:46,920 --> 02:59:48,420
that and then it's always a question of

3959
02:59:48,420 --> 02:59:50,160
what is the next step so being able to

3960
02:59:50,160 --> 02:59:51,960
actually engage them on a project that's

3961
02:59:51,960 --> 02:59:53,939
happening in Schenectady to learn to

3962
02:59:53,939 --> 02:59:55,560
continue to learn those skills in the

3963
02:59:55,560 --> 02:59:58,500
field will be really really impactful I

3964
02:59:58,500 --> 03:00:05,819
think sometimes we forget that we're

3965
03:00:05,819 --> 03:00:07,200
not only having a conversation with

3966
03:00:07,200 --> 03:00:08,760
ourselves there's also a number of

3967
03:00:08,760 --> 03:00:13,140
viewers who are being engaged also if

3968
03:00:13,140 --> 03:00:14,700
someone was looking into this

3969
03:00:14,700 --> 03:00:15,960
conversation wanting to get more

3970
03:00:15,960 --> 03:00:18,120
information can they reach out to

3971
03:00:18,120 --> 03:00:22,500
YouTube and also how in contact with you

3972
03:00:22,500 --> 03:00:26,230
um

3973
03:00:26,240 --> 03:00:28,680
they can call me

3974
03:00:28,680 --> 03:00:30,180
um I don't know if it's appropriate to

3975
03:00:30,180 --> 03:00:33,180
give my number out um well you do have

3976
03:00:33,180 --> 03:00:34,319
you have people work in the public

3977
03:00:34,319 --> 03:00:36,000
sector too they can always contact you

3978
03:00:36,000 --> 03:00:41,710
yeah

3979
03:00:41,720 --> 03:00:44,640
uh yeah so um you can contact me at

3980
03:00:44,640 --> 03:00:46,020
Metroplex that's where the land bank is

3981
03:00:46,020 --> 03:00:49,560
operated out of Christians Department of development I didn't even

3982
03:00:49,560 --> 03:00:51,779
explain how to you know get involved

3983
03:00:51,779 --> 03:00:53,040
with the Union get a job in this but

3984
03:00:53,040 --> 03:00:54,899
it's the same hard work to be mortgage

3985
03:00:54,899 --> 03:00:56,460
ready here because at the end of the day

3986
03:00:56,460 --> 03:00:58,140
what the state is doing is they're

3987
03:00:58,140 --> 03:01:00,240
filling a gap because it's not always

3988
03:01:00,240 --> 03:01:03,660
economically uh workable it's not a

3989
03:01:03,660 --> 03:01:04,859
model that works to build these houses

3990
03:01:04,859 --> 03:01:07,979
so the state is filling the Gap they're

3991
03:01:07,979 --> 03:01:09,420
responsible for filling it at the end of

3992
03:01:09,420 --> 03:01:11,160
the day they need mortgage qualified

3993
03:01:11,160 --> 03:01:13,859
individuals to buy these because that's

3994
03:01:13,859 --> 03:01:15,600
going to really improve the whole entire

3995
03:01:15,600 --> 03:01:17,520
neighborhood we want as many of those

3996
03:01:17,520 --> 03:01:19,319
folks who are already living in the

3997
03:01:19,319 --> 03:01:20,760
neighborhood already call us home whose

3998
03:01:20,760 --> 03:01:23,160
families call home but you need to start

3999
03:01:23,160 --> 03:01:25,080
the work today you know you need to call

4000
03:01:25,080 --> 03:01:26,700
me you need to call Kristen and we can

4001
03:01:26,700 --> 03:01:29,520
direct you to the right people to take

4002
03:01:29,520 --> 03:01:30,840
the steps you need to do to be

4003
03:01:30,840 --> 03:01:32,640
financially prepared and have that

4004
03:01:32,640 --> 03:01:34,500
commitment letter so that when they're

4005
03:01:34,500 --> 03:01:36,120
done and they have the keys they have

4006
03:01:36,120 --> 03:01:37,740
someone ready to move in and make this a

4007
03:01:37,740 --> 03:01:39,899
great home and it's a terrific Street

4008
03:01:39,899 --> 03:01:43,319
you look over those views uh you know it

4009
03:01:43,319 --> 03:01:45,300
was out there today there's tremendous

4010
03:01:45,300 --> 03:01:47,100
opportunity and the people who are

4011
03:01:47,100 --> 03:01:48,660
already living there should be the first

4012
03:01:48,660 --> 03:01:50,220
to get the opportunity but they need to

4013
03:01:50,220 --> 03:01:52,160
start that work today

4014
03:01:52,160 --> 03:01:55,309
thank you

4015
03:01:55,319 --> 03:01:56,880
well I want to thank you for the work

4016
03:01:56,880 --> 03:01:58,080
you've done for the partnership you've

4017
03:01:58,080 --> 03:01:59,939
put together and because I I think it

4018
03:01:59,939 --> 03:02:01,500
also is a very exciting project I'm

4019
03:02:01,500 --> 03:02:03,420
looking forward to it and uh so thank

4020
03:02:03,420 --> 03:02:05,160
you and you know waiting for the ground

4021
03:02:05,160 --> 03:02:09,410
to be several big round in June

4022
03:02:09,420 --> 03:02:11,220
so thank you for the bill for always

4023
03:02:11,220 --> 03:02:15,469
over commitment

4024
03:02:15,479 --> 03:02:17,880
and I think I could speak for all of us

4025
03:02:17,880 --> 03:02:19,380
as council members we would want to

4026
03:02:19,380 --> 03:02:20,340
partner and make sure that we have

4027
03:02:20,340 --> 03:02:22,920
people from the community to uh to

4028
03:02:22,920 --> 03:02:25,680
assist getting connected with you and

4029
03:02:25,680 --> 03:02:28,620
I'll share my card with you okay if

4030
03:02:28,620 --> 03:02:31,640
anyone wants okay

4031
03:02:31,640 --> 03:02:34,800
so thank you so they ask us to authorize

4032
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:37,680
the city of Schenectady to enter into an

4033
03:02:37,680 --> 03:02:39,420
option agreement with the capital region

4034
03:02:39,420 --> 03:02:40,979
land bank for the parcels that were

4035
03:02:40,979 --> 03:02:43,979
listed there was one parcel that wasn't

4036
03:02:43,979 --> 03:02:46,080
on that list and the request that we had

4037
03:02:46,080 --> 03:02:47,640
forwarded to Sam so I just wanted to

4038
03:02:47,640 --> 03:02:49,500
make sure when we do move forward that

4039
03:02:49,500 --> 03:02:51,359
it's included in the can you tell the

4040
03:02:51,359 --> 03:02:54,240
resolution I believe it's 546. I have it

4041
03:02:54,240 --> 03:02:57,000
right here yeah it's yeah it's 549 uh

4042
03:02:57,000 --> 03:02:59,160
Summit Avenue session block and law

4043
03:02:59,160 --> 03:03:04,370
49.31-3-46.1

4044
03:03:04,380 --> 03:03:09,720
49 49 that coin Thirty Thirty-One Dash

4045
03:03:09,720 --> 03:03:14,399
three dash 46.1 okay everybody knows

4046
03:03:14,399 --> 03:03:16,439
that block right yeah it's also known as

4047
03:03:16,439 --> 03:03:18,899
559 Summit Avenue

4048
03:03:18,899 --> 03:03:21,660
what's the number 549 Summit Avenue I

4049
03:03:21,660 --> 03:03:23,279
believe that's what Mr Brown said in his

4050
03:03:23,279 --> 03:03:24,660
email okay

4051
03:03:24,660 --> 03:03:26,100
um the only

4052
03:03:26,100 --> 03:03:28,080
um question I have for the council in

4053
03:03:28,080 --> 03:03:29,819
terms of drafting this if it's going to

4054
03:03:29,819 --> 03:03:31,800
be approved is

4055
03:03:31,800 --> 03:03:33,899
um it's an assignable purchase option

4056
03:03:33,899 --> 03:03:35,640
agreement with the land bank assignable

4057
03:03:35,640 --> 03:03:39,120
to either aik or this is the development

4058
03:03:39,120 --> 03:03:42,240
team or uh MLB

4059
03:03:42,240 --> 03:03:43,680
um and then obviously the length of time

4060
03:03:43,680 --> 03:03:45,840
to exercise that option so it's not a

4061
03:03:45,840 --> 03:03:50,090
never-ending option and

4062
03:03:50,100 --> 03:04:18,010
[Music]

4063
03:04:18,020 --> 03:04:23,110
all right

4064
03:04:23,120 --> 03:04:25,800
how long the council wants to keep the

4065
03:04:25,800 --> 03:04:27,300
option open so it doesn't run

4066
03:04:27,300 --> 03:04:29,100
indefinitely which

4067
03:04:29,100 --> 03:04:31,020
and we have an existing access agreement

4068
03:04:31,020 --> 03:04:33,500
uh where we can

4069
03:04:33,500 --> 03:04:35,819
request to the mayor to allow us to

4070
03:04:35,819 --> 03:04:37,200
access the property so we can move

4071
03:04:37,200 --> 03:04:39,479
forward with removal at the same time

4072
03:04:39,479 --> 03:04:42,420
okay so that doesn't it's you want to

4073
03:04:42,420 --> 03:04:46,040
know the length of the options yeah

4074
03:04:46,040 --> 03:04:49,319
uh 18 months I think is a is a fair

4075
03:04:49,319 --> 03:04:51,540
consumption yeah okay that sounds good

4076
03:04:51,540 --> 03:04:55,330
we won't need 18 months

4077
03:04:55,340 --> 03:04:58,500
does that answer your questions yes it

4078
03:04:58,500 --> 03:05:00,600
does thank you and you know we'll try to

4079
03:05:00,600 --> 03:05:02,819
keep everyone updated too as as projects

4080
03:05:02,819 --> 03:05:05,160
move along and you know we'll just try

4081
03:05:05,160 --> 03:05:06,720
to keep everyone updated on the progress

4082
03:05:06,720 --> 03:05:08,700
obviously

4083
03:05:08,700 --> 03:05:10,500
I think we're committed to making

4084
03:05:10,500 --> 03:05:12,240
something happen on Summit and we're

4085
03:05:12,240 --> 03:05:14,279
happy to have the partners that we have

4086
03:05:14,279 --> 03:05:15,500
right now so

4087
03:05:15,500 --> 03:05:18,660
any other questions or comments

4088
03:05:18,660 --> 03:05:22,439
not contain a motion second all those in

4089
03:05:22,439 --> 03:05:25,140
favor thank you

4090
03:05:25,140 --> 03:05:28,570
forward to it

4091
03:05:28,580 --> 03:05:31,080
okay the next item in the agenda is a

4092
03:05:31,080 --> 03:05:32,220
change to the public assembly

4093
03:05:32,220 --> 03:05:45,070
application and fees

4094
03:05:45,080 --> 03:05:50,050
thank you

4095
03:05:50,060 --> 03:05:53,100
all right so I just want to change the

4096
03:05:53,100 --> 03:05:55,620
language for the public assembly fee and

4097
03:05:55,620 --> 03:05:58,560
add a new line for having Affordable

4098
03:05:58,560 --> 03:05:59,939
Feed to the public because I need to

4099
03:05:59,939 --> 03:06:03,060
currently have the reason for this is

4100
03:06:03,060 --> 03:06:05,939
when we do our daily report was reported

4101
03:06:05,939 --> 03:06:08,640
by state we have a hard time

4102
03:06:08,640 --> 03:06:20,450
um

4103
03:06:20,460 --> 03:06:22,920
so by adding these fees we'll be able to

4104
03:06:22,920 --> 03:06:27,650
run more accurately

4105
03:06:27,660 --> 03:06:29,580
are there any questions everyone has the

4106
03:06:29,580 --> 03:06:33,479
information center for the fee changes

4107
03:06:33,479 --> 03:06:36,540
so just to be clear there's the highest

4108
03:06:36,540 --> 03:06:39,359
fee was 250 dollars and that has not

4109
03:06:39,359 --> 03:06:41,160
gone up so it's not been a fee increase

4110
03:06:41,160 --> 03:06:43,500
in that in that way that's great it's

4111
03:06:43,500 --> 03:06:45,540
just that there was an additional fee

4112
03:06:45,540 --> 03:06:48,660
included so it started 75 and then it

4113
03:06:48,660 --> 03:06:51,420
was 125 and then they're adding 200 to

4114
03:06:51,420 --> 03:06:52,920
ensure that they can capture it

4115
03:06:52,920 --> 03:06:54,960
correctly for the reports that you have

4116
03:06:54,960 --> 03:06:59,710
to run is that correct that's correct

4117
03:06:59,720 --> 03:07:08,110
are there any questions

4118
03:07:08,120 --> 03:07:14,330
hi thank you oh thank you

4119
03:07:14,340 --> 03:07:16,920
he's the only one first time

4120
03:07:16,920 --> 03:07:18,540
okay the next time I'm Gonna Get You

4121
03:07:18,540 --> 03:07:19,680
there's a ceremony resolution

4122
03:07:19,680 --> 03:07:22,380
recognizing Black History Month Mr

4123
03:07:22,380 --> 03:07:25,080
Farley thank you president

4124
03:07:25,080 --> 03:07:28,020
um as we all are aware of Black History

4125
03:07:28,020 --> 03:07:30,479
Month is here on black history is

4126
03:07:30,479 --> 03:07:31,979
American history

4127
03:07:31,979 --> 03:07:33,359
um it's just uh this is just another

4128
03:07:33,359 --> 03:07:37,380
opportunity for us to uplift recognize

4129
03:07:37,380 --> 03:07:39,479
on the contributions

4130
03:07:39,479 --> 03:07:42,300
um made by uh black people in this

4131
03:07:42,300 --> 03:07:43,740
country

4132
03:07:43,740 --> 03:07:45,660
um and and abroad and I think that you

4133
03:07:45,660 --> 03:07:46,920
know every time you get an opportunity

4134
03:07:46,920 --> 03:07:48,899
you should do that um

4135
03:07:48,899 --> 03:07:50,340
resolution

4136
03:07:50,340 --> 03:07:52,319
um and doing and recognizing black

4137
03:07:52,319 --> 03:07:54,800
history again as American history

4138
03:07:54,800 --> 03:07:58,570
any questions

4139
03:07:58,580 --> 03:08:02,580
so second Alan Baker aye

4140
03:08:02,580 --> 03:08:05,220
uh the next item is a ceremony

4141
03:08:05,220 --> 03:08:07,740
resolution recognizing Foundry foundry's

4142
03:08:07,740 --> 03:08:12,439
Day for the NAACP so the NAACP is

4143
03:08:12,439 --> 03:08:15,120
celebrating 114 years anniversary of

4144
03:08:15,120 --> 03:08:18,800
being founded and uh so the the

4145
03:08:18,800 --> 03:08:20,939
legislative request is there in front of

4146
03:08:20,939 --> 03:08:22,979
you so what I'd like the council to do

4147
03:08:22,979 --> 03:08:24,420
and there is going to be a celebration

4148
03:08:24,420 --> 03:08:27,540
this year held by the NAACP uh and

4149
03:08:27,540 --> 03:08:29,160
Schenectady so I just wanted to make

4150
03:08:29,160 --> 03:08:31,560
sure that we had a resolution to be a

4151
03:08:31,560 --> 03:08:33,479
part of that celebration and recognition

4152
03:08:33,479 --> 03:08:38,040
so I'm asking for a resolution for that

4153
03:08:38,040 --> 03:08:42,060
so second I was in favor um

4154
03:08:42,060 --> 03:08:46,560
okay the rest of the items on the agenda

4155
03:08:46,560 --> 03:08:49,319
are for property sales so we would have

4156
03:08:49,319 --> 03:08:52,080
to go into the access to that so this

4157
03:08:52,080 --> 03:08:54,479
time I'm going to recess City

4158
03:08:54,479 --> 03:08:56,160
development and planning

4159
03:08:56,160 --> 03:08:59,279
so second all in favor all right we're

4160
03:08:59,279 --> 03:09:00,680
recess

4161
03:09:00,680 --> 03:09:02,819
I'd like to call over the claims

4162
03:09:02,819 --> 03:09:04,680
committee we have three episodes in

4163
03:09:04,680 --> 03:09:07,319
Genesis active sessions so I'd like to

4164
03:09:07,319 --> 03:09:10,870
ask for a motion

4165
03:09:10,880 --> 03:09:12,840
litigation

4166
03:09:12,840 --> 03:09:15,840
publicly