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I learned about the third collectors
The Clapper
Schenectady city council committee
meeting for Monday March 6 2023 and the
first committee is Public Safety
wow like to call to order at the Public
Safety Committee there's one item on the
agenda tonight that's simply a reminder
the amendment of chapter 186 session 16
of the city code regarding Firestone
smoking in city parks there's a public
hearing that will be held on March 13th
2023 and if there are no other items to
involved many can I consider motion to
adjourns second second all in favor
thank you I would like to call your
Finance to order and the first item is
your authorization for the minute to
enter an agreement whether it's
connected Foundation utilizing arpa
funding for the healthy and Equitable
food access Council no
um I thought I'd actually be down here
by now but um that item is going to
um be pulled they have some further
things they need to work out
it's going to be over two weeks
okay
you're gonna pull one and two I thought
yes
okay the next item is discussion
amending resolution
2022-214 with a resolution appropriating
American Rescue Planet pack funding
funds for a minute to enter an agreement
related to such a location Miss
porterview yes
um regarding this resolution
when we put it Forward we're talking
about the food access at that time we
had pulled the Green Market out however
when we passed it we included the Green
Market in there and then had them
separately once again so this amendment
is to this resolutions to amended so
that the Green Market is pulled out from
the 950 000 and because it already sits
Along on its own in the resolution
go ahead
um so along that vein I noticed that
concern for the hungry again I think
needs to be in the resolution it's it's
in one part of the grid but not in the
other part
what I was wondering about the Green
Market as well so yeah that was my
concern I didn't realize both I think I
pulled because I was going to ask
political concerned for hungry
but since it's been uh discuss that
later yeah there is going to definitely
have to be some um further discussion
around those items
yes yes okay
sorry I caught it to you no that was it
I mean it's actually page well on this
it's uh page 22 right
down but you said it doesn't have
concerns it has it in column three
and I believe that we wanted it included
and then it's not in column
uh one oh I see it okay I got it so it's
similar to the green market in terms of
you know the Green Market needs to come
out because it has its own good concert
for the Hungary I just wanted to make
sure that they were still noted in that
those applications make sure that
um everything that they've asked for
things that we can fund so that's why
it's not going to be going through
tonight
so of course can you just recap for us
please we're kind of like cross path
it's okay what are you looking for on
page 22 in column three
um it includes uh the green Mark is part
of the nine hundred and fifty thousand
dollars however we had taken the Green
Market out and if we looked on page 23
you see the Green Market has 50 000
allocation all its own so we're just
simply cleaning up that lineage the
green Mark is not included as part of
that
so you look into a man resolution
2022-214 is removed oh
exactly remarket as a separate
resolution it already is there we're
just taking out it shouldn't be in that
column all right
any other questions
out
yes we should do that we're putting it
in yes yes
second a second all a favor hi thank you
the next item is
Miss Porterfield well Mr again was
supposed to be here so
I don't know if she's still in the
building
where do you know
I don't know
any request well we yeah
Mr Colin had to give us some of this is
anything you can get with us or you
don't have it I
releases out of the hands of the Law
Department
um previously we had provided the
development department with a contract
that they can use with the recipients of
the arpa funds
can't speak to where anything stands in
getting that executed that was happening
through development because they were I
believe awaiting documentation from a
lot of those organizations
so and what I'll do is I'll ask Miss Gia
to provide that in writing to us so we
can send it out to accounts
all right
any other business before Finance
motion to adjourn say all in favor all
right thank you okay I just wanted to
call the order government operations
there's only one either on the agenda and that is amendments to chapter
161 of the code regarding the collection
of white goods and that public hearing
was held on 227 on the questions
concerns or comments around that issue
Protocol no there was no um no one came
to testify or to speak in public hearing
but we did have a couple email
it yes we did have someone sent an email
I missed Michael was just one email
there were two emails regarding it and I
believe both of me emails were not in
favor of US changing
um but I did mayor
in terms of the white guys that we've
collected so far
and I saw that there was an article
where it said that we only had one like
all month long
six months one in six months oh okay
four along might be so that's great all
right
okay the whole purpose of that was just
to be a little more efficient with the
city so we don't have trucks up for no
reason for anyone who needed to refresh
on that any other questions sounds or
comments around that
okay so with that I'd like to uh also
promotion to adjourn government
operations
um
so second
we have six items on the agenda
um for the first one is award bidding
contract for the Pine Barren stump
removal
to moy Enterprises
hello hello uh so this is a project that
we've been working on this is phase
three of a three-phase project phase one
law and two were for the harvesting of
trees in Woodlawn uh and this is for the
removal of the stumps they're actually
not being removed they're kind of being
pushed over buried and and it's going to
be like a loose graded kind of thing and
then the Pine Bush is actually going to
come and start making habitat uh like
with Lupine and things like that and uh
you know the best views that you see in
the Albany uh Pineville area
um excuse me the one Albany what's the
word Lupine and fescues yeah the grass
they're not actually going to plant like
sod or progression it's more like if you
go to the golf course we have a
different Fescue mixes and movement and
then the the goal was to make habitat
for Carnival butterfly
um which is it's a big thing there so
this is phase three of the project
um we were you know I didn't bring it up
we did have you know three bids the bids
were a large range
Moy SM and then Harbor
um we did call the Pine Bush and speak
with Moy and this particular company has
done a lot of work with the Pine Bush it
is one of their preferred vendors to
work with so given that we've been
working with the fine Bush hand in hand
for a couple of years on this we feel no
reason not to move forward with it and
it is within the budget of the project
are there any questions
I'll move it
it's like an elbows in favor all right
second item on the agenda is the
award-winning contract because for the
Schenectady Municipal Golf Course Barn
electrical services and upgrades so last
year you approved a contract with um uh
I can't remember the car coming off my
head but we're going to be getting a new
Fleet of Yamaha lithium carts in April
um probably mid-april we've been working
with National Grid as we're going to
need a new poll and Transformer to serve
the building because it's going to be a
significantly larger service right now
we have a 100 amp service that's Powers
a power washer and some lights and a
speaker system but this is going to be a
400 amp service each cart needs its own
Outlet there are 70 carts so this will
be to upgrade the electrical system from
there we've talked to the contractor
he's ready to go the second he gets the
authorization from you it's probably
going to take about three weeks to
finish and National Grid already as the
working voice and check to do the work
and once the ground permits it we
believe they'll be on the site so we
think we're going to be able to make it
for that and you have to remember too we
don't know about Parts usually the first
two weeks the season opens anyways
because the course is usually wet and we
don't want to sacrifice the course
because wet and carts do a lot more
damage than growing the season so this
vendor we also work with and we have
confidence that they'll be able to
successfully complete the job
have any questions to comments
it's not nothing
second all's a favor bye thank you all
right thank you Mr Waller
thrilling on the agenda is the creative
outdoor garbage collection business
so last time there was a question as to
where garbage cans would be put the
fender says that they as I said would
not send some of their site auditor to
the city without a contract in place
that being said they did say they would
be willing to put into a contract
that the mayor and the council could
have final approval of all the garbage
sites if that's what you want
so that's where we're at
um so I did get a call from I had a
conversation with um
the head of the union
for that collects garbage and they said
that they had not they had no no
information about this and said they
wanted I guess they're having a meeting
um with the mayor this week and said
they wanted to be able to have a
discussion regarding how this impacts
whether it's through collection we
already uh for those of you don't know
there was um
someone in the city that was doing
something that was you
and actually filed a grievance and won
their grievance
so um not not related to this but
related to something separate and so
they brought that up and said if this is
going to be about collecting garbage Etc
they want to be able to have some um to
at least know what it's about and who's
going to do what before we move forward
with that as I said the first time that
we discussed this it's basically
replacing cans that they're already
removing garbage from so they want to be
any additional work for them it would be
basically a swap out
this is but this is 40 hands but in the
gentleman that was here said that the
cans that were decent this would be in
addition to is my understanding not
replacing cans that we paid lots of
money for
right and so there are a lot of cans
around the city so those would get
swapped out we met with the mayor and
met with commissioner Lafond and he was
pretty adamant that this could be done
with the city crew and it would
basically be a replacement
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well I can only go by what the union
says because they're the ones that
reached out to me and
so mayor um I don't really want to put
you on the spot but I I understand
you're meeting with them this week
oh
I know you can't discuss contract
negotiations I'm not asking that well I
always find it interesting when the
council is dealing directly with unions
and bypassing my position but uh
do have meetings coming up but through
this is a long issue you should move
ahead with this
get it in place
um so let me just be clear there wasn't
that bypassing which is why I'm bringing
it here and not having you know
discussing with them what will the one
that happened they tell me they're going
to be speaking with you and I say that's
fine that's the way it should happen so
we have a problem with letter this gives
us an option I'll work it out with the
unions
well I'd like to
so go ahead
I think that um I think it's a great
idea I think it's going to add value to
the city it doesn't I mean they're free
um and I think that um it'll help us get
some of our points across around the
anti-literate plan that the council
already passed
um so I just want to say that I will be
in support of this moving forward and I
think one of the emails that we got from
a citizen I think that's where it was
outline some specific areas around the
city that were um in a dire need of
cleanup so I was thinking as I read that
email about this idea of what would be
the sites for some of the garbage cans
and I thought that kind of helped us lay
that out a little bit in his email
to us so anyway I just voice support for
this yeah
oh
um
so I I've also uh in support of this it
sounds like a really good idea
um and it doesn't seem like it's going
to be to any cause of in fact the
benefit to the city um so I'm in full
support of this
um with you know the understanding and that it's not you know going to put
us in
a bad situation with the union and you
know that we are I appreciate the uh
Amendment if you will the proposed
amendment to the contractor where we can
um you know make that final decision to
make sure that it's in line with needs
in the city however so I'm I want to be
also join with you supporting this and
also I want to make sure that you know before we move forward with
this that is something that's going to
be in line with our our Union
I just want to say that I'm absolutely
in favor of it um Mr the piccolo is the
one that sends us uh information all the
time regarding
um you know trash littering the city
streets so
um and I know I think this is 40 cancers
40 or so
um just on State Street alone I mean
probably be room for 20 of them
anyway and then also bringing some
Revenue into the city so and again I
defer the mayor for making negotiations
with our unions to work things out so
I'm a vegan
Mr Rudy Bear yeah
um as long as I'm in Wisconsin we have
been discussing liver service all over
every time I think I'm
for myself a speaker of water all of
awful support is idea but I came to the
table with a very same concern with the
Union where we had an employee with
picking up garbage when I was supposed
to happen they grieved it they wanted
the grievance and I think we should give
them an opportunity to discuss with the
mayor to some sort of an agreement if
either way and let's move forward after
that at this point in time I think I'm
very supportive of the program but I
want to make sure that the union is hard
and the ingredients if they have any
it's hard to give them the opportunity
to address it and let's move all that I
find time rather I'll be moving now and
we are meeting with the mayor this week
or next week
I'm very supportive of this program
unless
that's my concern with leading Mr
clothing I had to ask you but I think
you've mentioned that in order to have
outdoor signage we don't need a special
zoning it's hard to change the city
correctly not to do anything in silica
to have all the door to have a company
putting all the door science City's
Contracting with the company helps us
not
um you know just a private party this is
a city Contracting tip so it complies
with the code so because the city is
Contracting for the private company
correct because because it's the city is acting as opposed to a
private party appropriately
I want to make sure that because we
don't want to go there and then realize
that private company is going to want to
do the same thing and we don't have to
control cities right away yes so they
would even need to get permission in the
cities where it would Place garbage cans
thank you
Mr Williams uh definitely the weather
something I grew up recognizing
unfortunately exists throughout the city
so I appreciate these efforts and moving
forward I think my only concern was just
placement where a lot of the times
especially with the information and
language that was brought forward was
high traffic areas so I know sometimes
litter might not be in high traffic
areas so I want to make sure and I
appreciate adding the language like Mr
Farley Highland where we're able to
designate prospective areas that this
has an increased impact on the city but
then also making sure because there was
an email that came out addressing
advertising and making sure again that
we have messaging that's appropriate for
all of our residents in the city but
absolutely I support any effort that is
targeting littering but also being
realistic where we still need people
actively putting things in garbage cans
so this unfortunately isn't the end-all
solution but absolutely is an
appropriate first step
all right
um so and also this in terms of the
amount of funding I think was tens
fifteen thousand dollars but then we
still what about our tipping fee so we
still have to pay out money for our
tipping fees so it would not be that
um
so our tipping fees would come out of
whatever Revenue we we had for pain
we're paying for it one way or the other
except yes but but it sounds like it's
going to be a lot more cans a lot more
garbage so I just want to make sure that
we're taking that because there's the
entirely think there's going to be more
garbage garbage sometimes is not where
we want it but I don't anticipated the
amount of garbage increasing
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um so but what I am hearing is that we
want to we want to make sure that we're
clear with the Union first that
myself and Mr move to there and I know
that you're ready to move forward but
I'd like to give them that level of
perspective they said they hadn't heard
anything about that so yeah
well
move it forward and then
um
well you have to ask for the motion
is there any further discussion Twitter
and now in chain emotion I'll move it
as I stated that I will wait until the
mayor meets with the Union let them
greet the concern let me appreciate you can update us on that move it
forward tonight this is really an
embarrassment you know Mr Paolini
brought this
Quarterfield doesn't like him we've gone
into we maneuver on all these minor
things you know it's the white goods
where we had one white good picked up in
six months took 120 days to move that
through it's really an embarrassment so
if you want me to meet with the unions I
will meet with the unions but the
position the administration is not going
to change the outcome is not going to
change and you're just missing an
opportunity to move this forward in
Timeless man thank you
algorithm
it's also it's not true of the agreements because
that was just an out of it's different
employees we have grievances here on an
ongoing basis to take this and say one
grievance should shift this policy is
just foolish where you don't understand
the mechanics of the day-to-day
operations of the city
well McNair you said you made the
statement that I don't agree but then I
don't like to say don't agree with it
and that's incorrect and in terms of the
white goods it was a matter of that was
done before it ever passed through the
council if the council was never asked
about it so that that is clearly in
violation to your attention gave you the
opportunity to move it forward so that
it looks like the council is doing
something there's no action by the
council and we sit here and just spin
our Wheels
it's really quite a waste of time and
effort well those cards were printed
before it was brought to the council so
it was already absolutely not true
okay I mean the calendar can can show
what happens on it yeah we don't need to
argue about that
Mr Farley so if I'm understanding this
correctly it seems like
we all have
more aligned with this idea than not so
it just seems like the the question is
how is this going to impact the union
um the union would be the the People
Best to answer that give them an
opportunity to speak to that and then we
pass this
um unanimously and and locks up with
each other because we all seem to think
that this is a good idea I just wouldn't
want this to be framed as something that
um you know there's there there's not a
lot of a very differentiating our
opinions on this I think everyone wants
this to happen and I from day one it was
pretty vocal about hey I think this is a good idea I think it could benefit the
city however we allow ourselves to make
an informed decision as a responsible
government body should and I think that
that's a good thing so we so it doesn't
seem like we're you know there's too
much daylight between how everyone is
feeling about this I think there's just
one missing piece um that is how the
union feels we get that confirmation
from them and then we move forward
I do hear what you're saying but
um Mr Lafond who oversees the entire
operation of our garbage pickup
um is supportive of it has said that it
won't affect what the folks that are
under his supervision will have to do
and I think that Mr palmetti um I think
you cleared it as well with the company
that it doesn't it doesn't in any way
um impact the work of the folks
it won't make any difference I mean in
terms of their work so
um so I just
I do feel like we're dragging our feet I
mean because I I mean it was an evening
of my surgery that this first came up so
it's how many weeks ago
um it's several committee meetings ago
that that was in just
December September that was in September
it was first presented for September I
was President it was a presentation yeah okay Mr palamini I guess I don't
really disagree with 99 of what you said
I'll take it there you go so
um I guess the one issue I have is we're
presupposing a grievance with the Union
where there is now so there's a process
in place if they have an issue to bring
agreements forward
so we are assuming there's a problem
before there's a problem
so
let's move forward if there's an issue
they'll bring It Forward there's a
process in place for them to do that
and take care of the issue
well I I don't see this as as presuppose
I don't see it's presupposing there's
going to be a grievance what I said was
that they reached out and wanted to to
hear about it prior to the to us making
this that is what I said and so if that
would in my opinion if that would so
they know what's going to happen and
what will or not happen what we will or
will not do will avoid their being a
grievance but to have to inform a group
of people who are going to be a part of
this process I don't think it's the
worst thing that we could do
I was just reiterating like I don't
think that we're you know assuming that
there will be a grievance I'm certainly
not saying that what I'm saying is that
hey make an informed decision by
discussing all parties involved it's
probably is the best practice
thankfully and luckily it seems like
we're all pretty much aligned with the
support of the program as long as it's
um can operate within the parameters
that needs to so again talk to the union
move forward and all as well
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so at this point in time um there was
motion it was not second and we'll bring
it back in two weeks after the mayor has
had the conversation with you
item number four uh division uh one of
the latest uh ladies order of hypernians
in all people's viruses sentence
Schenectady for the feast of Saint
Patrick is Patrick yes this is our
annual resolution celebrating uh St
Patrick's Day
um along with the Ancient Order of
fibernians so it'll be here uh will they
I don't know if there's any good dancers
this year that they they normally bring
the Step dancers but
um
so that's that's what this is so we just
have ceremony resolution
so second all is a favor
aye
um the agenda for property sales
so at this point in time I want to
entertain a motion to go into executive
session so second all the paper all
right