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public [10:39] hearing that will be held on March 13th [10:42] 2023 and if there are no other items to [10:45] involved many can I consider motion to [10:47] adjourns second second all in favor [10:53] thank you I would like to call your [10:55] Finance to order and the first item is [10:57] your authorization for the minute to [10:59] enter an agreement whether it's [11:01] connected Foundation utilizing arpa [11:03] funding for the healthy and Equitable [11:05] food access Council no [11:09] um I thought I'd actually be down here [11:10] by now but um that item is going to [11:13] um be pulled they have some further [11:14] things they need to work out [11:17] it's going to be over two weeks [11:20] okay [11:23] you're gonna pull one and two I thought [11:26] yes [11:35] okay the next item is discussion [11:38] amending resolution [11:41] 2022-214 with a resolution appropriating [11:44] American Rescue Planet pack funding [11:47] funds for a minute to enter an agreement [11:49] related to such a location Miss [11:52] porterview yes [11:54] um regarding this resolution [11:57] when we put it Forward we're talking [11:58] about the food access at that time we [12:01] had pulled the Green Market out however [12:04] when we passed it we included the Green [12:06] Market in there and then had them [12:08] separately once again so this amendment [12:11] is to this resolutions to amended so [12:14] that the Green Market is pulled out from [12:16] the 950 000 and because it already sits [12:19] Along on its own in the resolution [12:24] go ahead [12:26] um so along that vein I noticed that [12:28] concern for the hungry again I think [12:30] needs to be in the resolution it's it's [12:33] in one part of the grid but not in the [12:35] other part [12:39] what I was wondering about the Green [12:41] Market as well so yeah that was my [12:44] concern I didn't realize both I think I [12:46] pulled because I was going to ask [12:47] political concerned for hungry [12:53] but since it's been uh discuss that [12:56] later yeah there is going to definitely [12:58] have to be some um further discussion [13:00] around those items [13:03] yes yes okay [13:07] sorry I caught it to you no that was it [13:11] I mean it's actually page well on this [13:13] it's uh page 22 right [13:17] down but you said it doesn't have [13:18] concerns it has it in column three [13:22] and I believe that we wanted it included [13:24] and then it's not in column [13:27] uh one oh I see it okay I got it so it's [13:31] similar to the green market in terms of [13:33] you know the Green Market needs to come [13:35] out because it has its own good concert [13:37] for the Hungary I just wanted to make [13:38] sure that they were still noted in that [13:48] those applications make sure that [13:51] um everything that they've asked for [13:53] things that we can fund so that's why [13:55] it's not going to be going through [13:56] tonight [14:00] so of course can you just recap for us [14:02] please we're kind of like cross path [14:03] it's okay what are you looking for on [14:07] page 22 in column three [14:10] um it includes uh the green Mark is part [14:12] of the nine hundred and fifty thousand [14:13] dollars however we had taken the Green [14:16] Market out and if we looked on page 23 [14:19] you see the Green Market has 50 000 [14:21] allocation all its own so we're just [14:23] simply cleaning up that lineage the [14:25] green Mark is not included as part of [14:26] that [14:28] so you look into a man resolution [14:32] 2022-214 is removed oh [14:35] exactly remarket as a separate [14:37] resolution it already is there we're [14:39] just taking out it shouldn't be in that [14:41] column all right [14:44] any other questions [14:48] out [14:54] yes we should do that we're putting it [14:57] in yes yes [15:09] second a second all a favor hi thank you [15:14] the next item is [15:18] Miss Porterfield well Mr again was [15:21] supposed to be here so [15:23] I don't know if she's still in the [15:25] building [15:26] where do you know [15:28] I don't know [15:30] any request well we yeah [15:36] Mr Colin had to give us some of this is [15:39] anything you can get with us or you [15:40] don't have it I [15:41] releases out of the hands of the Law [15:43] Department [15:44] um previously we had provided the [15:47] development department with a contract [15:49] that they can use with the recipients of [15:52] the arpa funds [15:53] can't speak to where anything stands in [15:56] getting that executed that was happening [15:57] through development because they were I [15:59] believe awaiting documentation from a [16:01] lot of those organizations [16:03] so and what I'll do is I'll ask Miss Gia [16:06] to provide that in writing to us so we [16:08] can send it out to accounts [16:13] all right [16:14] any other business before Finance [16:16] motion to adjourn say all in favor all [16:19] right thank you okay I just wanted to [16:21] call the order government operations [16:23] there's only one either on the agenda and that is amendments to chapter [16:27] 161 of the code regarding the collection [16:30] of white goods and that public hearing [16:31] was held on 227 on the questions [16:38] concerns or comments around that issue [16:43] Protocol no there was no um no one came [16:46] to testify or to speak in public hearing [16:48] but we did have a couple email [16:50] it yes we did have someone sent an email [16:54] I missed Michael was just one email [16:57] there were two emails regarding it and I [17:00] believe both of me emails were not in [17:02] favor of US changing [17:08] um but I did mayor [17:10] in terms of the white guys that we've [17:12] collected so far [17:15] and I saw that there was an article [17:17] where it said that we only had one like [17:18] all month long [17:21] six months one in six months oh okay [17:26] four along might be so that's great all [17:29] right [17:31] okay the whole purpose of that was just [17:32] to be a little more efficient with the [17:34] city so we don't have trucks up for no [17:35] reason for anyone who needed to refresh [17:38] on that any other questions sounds or [17:39] comments around that [17:42] okay so with that I'd like to uh also [17:46] promotion to adjourn government [17:47] operations [17:56] um [18:03] so second [18:19] we have six items on the agenda [18:22] um for the first one is award bidding [18:24] contract for the Pine Barren stump [18:26] removal [18:27] to moy Enterprises [18:36] hello hello uh so this is a project that [18:40] we've been working on this is phase [18:41] three of a three-phase project phase one [18:44] law and two were for the harvesting of [18:47] trees in Woodlawn uh and this is for the [18:50] removal of the stumps they're actually [18:52] not being removed they're kind of being [18:54] pushed over buried and and it's going to [18:57] be like a loose graded kind of thing and [18:59] then the Pine Bush is actually going to [19:01] come and start making habitat uh like [19:03] with Lupine and things like that and uh [19:05] you know the best views that you see in [19:08] the Albany uh Pineville area [19:10] um excuse me the one Albany what's the [19:13] word Lupine and fescues yeah the grass [19:15] they're not actually going to plant like [19:17] sod or progression it's more like if you [19:19] go to the golf course we have a [19:21] different Fescue mixes and movement and [19:23] then the the goal was to make habitat [19:25] for Carnival butterfly [19:28] um which is it's a big thing there so [19:30] this is phase three of the project [19:32] um we were you know I didn't bring it up [19:36] we did have you know three bids the bids [19:39] were a large range [19:41] Moy SM and then Harbor [19:44] um we did call the Pine Bush and speak [19:46] with Moy and this particular company has [19:50] done a lot of work with the Pine Bush it [19:52] is one of their preferred vendors to [19:54] work with so given that we've been [19:57] working with the fine Bush hand in hand [19:59] for a couple of years on this we feel no [20:01] reason not to move forward with it and [20:03] it is within the budget of the project [20:06] are there any questions [20:08] I'll move it [20:10] it's like an elbows in favor all right [20:12] second item on the agenda is the [20:14] award-winning contract because for the [20:16] Schenectady Municipal Golf Course Barn [20:18] electrical services and upgrades so last [20:21] year you approved a contract with um uh [20:25] I can't remember the car coming off my [20:27] head but we're going to be getting a new [20:28] Fleet of Yamaha lithium carts in April [20:31] um probably mid-april we've been working [20:34] with National Grid as we're going to [20:36] need a new poll and Transformer to serve [20:39] the building because it's going to be a [20:41] significantly larger service right now [20:44] we have a 100 amp service that's Powers [20:46] a power washer and some lights and a [20:49] speaker system but this is going to be a [20:51] 400 amp service each cart needs its own [20:54] Outlet there are 70 carts so this will [20:57] be to upgrade the electrical system from [21:00] there we've talked to the contractor [21:02] he's ready to go the second he gets the [21:04] authorization from you it's probably [21:06] going to take about three weeks to [21:07] finish and National Grid already as the [21:10] working voice and check to do the work [21:13] and once the ground permits it we [21:16] believe they'll be on the site so we [21:17] think we're going to be able to make it [21:18] for that and you have to remember too we [21:20] don't know about Parts usually the first [21:22] two weeks the season opens anyways [21:23] because the course is usually wet and we [21:26] don't want to sacrifice the course [21:27] because wet and carts do a lot more [21:30] damage than growing the season so this [21:33] vendor we also work with and we have [21:36] confidence that they'll be able to [21:37] successfully complete the job [21:39] have any questions to comments [21:42] it's not nothing [21:44] second all's a favor bye thank you all [21:48] right thank you Mr Waller [21:49] thrilling on the agenda is the creative [21:51] outdoor garbage collection business [21:55] so last time there was a question as to [21:58] where garbage cans would be put the [22:01] fender says that they as I said would [22:05] not send some of their site auditor to [22:08] the city without a contract in place [22:11] that being said they did say they would [22:14] be willing to put into a contract [22:18] that the mayor and the council could [22:20] have final approval of all the garbage [22:24] sites if that's what you want [22:26] so that's where we're at [22:31] um so I did get a call from I had a [22:34] conversation with um [22:36] the head of the union [22:38] for that collects garbage and they said [22:40] that they had not they had no no [22:43] information about this and said they [22:44] wanted I guess they're having a meeting [22:46] um with the mayor this week and said [22:48] they wanted to be able to have a [22:50] discussion regarding how this impacts [22:52] whether it's through collection we [22:55] already uh for those of you don't know [22:56] there was um [22:58] someone in the city that was doing [23:00] something that was you [23:01] and actually filed a grievance and won [23:03] their grievance [23:05] so um not not related to this but [23:07] related to something separate and so [23:10] they brought that up and said if this is [23:12] going to be about collecting garbage Etc [23:13] they want to be able to have some um to [23:16] at least know what it's about and who's [23:18] going to do what before we move forward [23:20] with that as I said the first time that [23:23] we discussed this it's basically [23:25] replacing cans that they're already [23:27] removing garbage from so they want to be [23:29] any additional work for them it would be [23:32] basically a swap out [23:35] this is but this is 40 hands but in the [23:38] gentleman that was here said that the [23:40] cans that were decent this would be in [23:42] addition to is my understanding not [23:44] replacing cans that we paid lots of [23:46] money for [23:47] right and so there are a lot of cans [23:51] around the city so those would get [23:52] swapped out we met with the mayor and [23:54] met with commissioner Lafond and he was [23:58] pretty adamant that this could be done [24:01] with the city crew and it would [24:04] basically be a replacement [24:06] [Music] [24:09] well I can only go by what the union [24:11] says because they're the ones that [24:12] reached out to me and [24:14] so mayor um I don't really want to put [24:16] you on the spot but I I understand [24:18] you're meeting with them this week [24:20] oh [24:22] I know you can't discuss contract [24:24] negotiations I'm not asking that well I [24:26] always find it interesting when the [24:28] council is dealing directly with unions [24:30] and bypassing my position but uh [24:35] do have meetings coming up but through [24:37] this is a long issue you should move [24:39] ahead with this [24:41] get it in place [24:45] um so let me just be clear there wasn't [24:46] that bypassing which is why I'm bringing [24:47] it here and not having you know [24:49] discussing with them what will the one [24:50] that happened they tell me they're going [24:52] to be speaking with you and I say that's [24:53] fine that's the way it should happen so [24:55] we have a problem with letter this gives [24:57] us an option I'll work it out with the [25:00] unions [25:04] well I'd like to [25:06] so go ahead [25:08] I think that um I think it's a great [25:10] idea I think it's going to add value to [25:13] the city it doesn't I mean they're free [25:16] um and I think that um it'll help us get [25:18] some of our points across around the [25:21] anti-literate plan that the council [25:22] already passed [25:25] um so I just want to say that I will be [25:27] in support of this moving forward and I [25:30] think one of the emails that we got from [25:32] a citizen I think that's where it was [25:34] outline some specific areas around the [25:37] city that were um in a dire need of [25:40] cleanup so I was thinking as I read that [25:43] email about this idea of what would be [25:45] the sites for some of the garbage cans [25:47] and I thought that kind of helped us lay [25:50] that out a little bit in his email [25:52] to us so anyway I just voice support for [25:55] this yeah [25:58] oh [26:00] um [26:01] so I I've also uh in support of this it [26:03] sounds like a really good idea [26:05] um and it doesn't seem like it's going [26:07] to be to any cause of in fact the [26:08] benefit to the city um so I'm in full [26:10] support of this [26:12] um with you know the understanding and that it's not you know going to put [26:17] us in [26:18] a bad situation with the union and you [26:21] know that we are I appreciate the uh [26:24] Amendment if you will the proposed [26:26] amendment to the contractor where we can [26:28] um you know make that final decision to [26:30] make sure that it's in line with needs [26:32] in the city however so I'm I want to be [26:35] also join with you supporting this and [26:39] also I want to make sure that you know before we move forward with [26:43] this that is something that's going to [26:44] be in line with our our Union [26:49] I just want to say that I'm absolutely [26:51] in favor of it um Mr the piccolo is the [26:54] one that sends us uh information all the [26:57] time regarding [26:58] um you know trash littering the city [27:00] streets so [27:02] um and I know I think this is 40 cancers [27:04] 40 or so [27:07] um just on State Street alone I mean [27:09] probably be room for 20 of them [27:12] anyway and then also bringing some [27:15] Revenue into the city so and again I [27:18] defer the mayor for making negotiations [27:20] with our unions to work things out so [27:22] I'm a vegan [27:25] Mr Rudy Bear yeah [27:28] um as long as I'm in Wisconsin we have [27:30] been discussing liver service all over [27:33] every time I think I'm [27:36] for myself a speaker of water all of [27:38] awful support is idea but I came to the [27:40] table with a very same concern with the [27:42] Union where we had an employee with [27:43] picking up garbage when I was supposed [27:44] to happen they grieved it they wanted [27:46] the grievance and I think we should give [27:49] them an opportunity to discuss with the [27:51] mayor to some sort of an agreement if [27:53] either way and let's move forward after [27:55] that at this point in time I think I'm [27:57] very supportive of the program but I [27:58] want to make sure that the union is hard [28:00] and the ingredients if they have any [28:01] it's hard to give them the opportunity [28:04] to address it and let's move all that I [28:06] find time rather I'll be moving now and [28:08] we are meeting with the mayor this week [28:09] or next week [28:10] I'm very supportive of this program [28:12] unless [28:13] that's my concern with leading Mr [28:16] clothing I had to ask you but I think [28:18] you've mentioned that in order to have [28:19] outdoor signage we don't need a special [28:22] zoning it's hard to change the city [28:24] correctly not to do anything in silica [28:26] to have all the door to have a company [28:29] putting all the door science City's [28:31] Contracting with the company helps us [28:34] not [28:35] um you know just a private party this is [28:38] a city Contracting tip so it complies [28:41] with the code so because the city is [28:43] Contracting for the private company [28:45] correct because because it's the city is acting as opposed to a [28:50] private party appropriately [28:53] I want to make sure that because we [28:54] don't want to go there and then realize [28:56] that private company is going to want to [28:57] do the same thing and we don't have to [28:58] control cities right away yes so they [29:00] would even need to get permission in the [29:02] cities where it would Place garbage cans [29:04] thank you [29:07] Mr Williams uh definitely the weather [29:09] something I grew up recognizing [29:12] unfortunately exists throughout the city [29:14] so I appreciate these efforts and moving [29:15] forward I think my only concern was just [29:18] placement where a lot of the times [29:20] especially with the information and [29:22] language that was brought forward was [29:24] high traffic areas so I know sometimes [29:26] litter might not be in high traffic [29:28] areas so I want to make sure and I [29:30] appreciate adding the language like Mr [29:32] Farley Highland where we're able to [29:33] designate prospective areas that this [29:36] has an increased impact on the city but [29:38] then also making sure because there was [29:40] an email that came out addressing [29:41] advertising and making sure again that [29:44] we have messaging that's appropriate for [29:46] all of our residents in the city but [29:48] absolutely I support any effort that is [29:51] targeting littering but also being [29:54] realistic where we still need people [29:55] actively putting things in garbage cans [29:57] so this unfortunately isn't the end-all [29:59] solution but absolutely is an [30:01] appropriate first step [30:05] all right [30:06] um so and also this in terms of the [30:10] amount of funding I think was tens [30:11] fifteen thousand dollars but then we [30:14] still what about our tipping fee so we [30:16] still have to pay out money for our [30:18] tipping fees so it would not be that [30:21] um [30:22] so our tipping fees would come out of [30:24] whatever Revenue we we had for pain [30:29] we're paying for it one way or the other [30:32] except yes but but it sounds like it's [30:35] going to be a lot more cans a lot more [30:37] garbage so I just want to make sure that [30:38] we're taking that because there's the [30:40] entirely think there's going to be more [30:41] garbage garbage sometimes is not where [30:45] we want it but I don't anticipated the [30:48] amount of garbage increasing [30:51] [Music] [30:53] um so but what I am hearing is that we [30:54] want to we want to make sure that we're [30:55] clear with the Union first that [30:57] myself and Mr move to there and I know [30:59] that you're ready to move forward but [31:01] I'd like to give them that level of [31:03] perspective they said they hadn't heard [31:04] anything about that so yeah [31:06] well [31:09] move it forward and then [31:11] um [31:13] well you have to ask for the motion [31:15] is there any further discussion Twitter [31:19] and now in chain emotion I'll move it [31:24] as I stated that I will wait until the [31:27] mayor meets with the Union let them [31:30] greet the concern let me appreciate you can update us on that move it [31:35] forward tonight this is really an [31:36] embarrassment you know Mr Paolini [31:38] brought this [31:40] Quarterfield doesn't like him we've gone [31:42] into we maneuver on all these minor [31:44] things you know it's the white goods [31:46] where we had one white good picked up in [31:49] six months took 120 days to move that [31:53] through it's really an embarrassment so [31:58] if you want me to meet with the unions I [32:00] will meet with the unions but the [32:01] position the administration is not going [32:03] to change the outcome is not going to [32:06] change and you're just missing an [32:08] opportunity to move this forward in [32:09] Timeless man thank you [32:11] algorithm [32:13] it's also it's not true of the agreements because [32:18] that was just an out of it's different [32:21] employees we have grievances here on an [32:25] ongoing basis to take this and say one [32:28] grievance should shift this policy is [32:31] just foolish where you don't understand [32:33] the mechanics of the day-to-day [32:35] operations of the city [32:38] well McNair you said you made the [32:39] statement that I don't agree but then I [32:41] don't like to say don't agree with it [32:42] and that's incorrect and in terms of the [32:44] white goods it was a matter of that was [32:46] done before it ever passed through the [32:48] council if the council was never asked [32:50] about it so that that is clearly in [32:52] violation to your attention gave you the [32:56] opportunity to move it forward so that [32:58] it looks like the council is doing [33:00] something there's no action by the [33:02] council and we sit here and just spin [33:04] our Wheels [33:06] it's really quite a waste of time and [33:08] effort well those cards were printed [33:09] before it was brought to the council so [33:11] it was already absolutely not true [33:15] okay I mean the calendar can can show [33:17] what happens on it yeah we don't need to [33:19] argue about that [33:20] Mr Farley so if I'm understanding this [33:24] correctly it seems like [33:26] we all have [33:28] more aligned with this idea than not so [33:31] it just seems like the the question is [33:34] how is this going to impact the union [33:36] um the union would be the the People [33:39] Best to answer that give them an [33:41] opportunity to speak to that and then we [33:43] pass this [33:45] um unanimously and and locks up with [33:47] each other because we all seem to think [33:49] that this is a good idea I just wouldn't [33:51] want this to be framed as something that [33:53] um you know there's there there's not a [33:55] lot of a very differentiating our [33:58] opinions on this I think everyone wants [33:59] this to happen and I from day one it was [34:01] pretty vocal about hey I think this is a good idea I think it could benefit the [34:06] city however we allow ourselves to make [34:07] an informed decision as a responsible [34:09] government body should and I think that [34:10] that's a good thing so we so it doesn't [34:12] seem like we're you know there's too [34:13] much daylight between how everyone is [34:15] feeling about this I think there's just [34:16] one missing piece um that is how the [34:19] union feels we get that confirmation [34:21] from them and then we move forward [34:24] I do hear what you're saying but [34:28] um Mr Lafond who oversees the entire [34:32] operation of our garbage pickup [34:35] um is supportive of it has said that it [34:38] won't affect what the folks that are [34:42] under his supervision will have to do [34:44] and I think that Mr palmetti um I think [34:46] you cleared it as well with the company [34:48] that it doesn't it doesn't in any way [34:51] um impact the work of the folks [34:55] it won't make any difference I mean in [34:57] terms of their work so [35:00] um so I just [35:02] I do feel like we're dragging our feet I [35:04] mean because I I mean it was an evening [35:06] of my surgery that this first came up so [35:09] it's how many weeks ago [35:11] um it's several committee meetings ago [35:13] that that was in just [35:18] December September that was in September [35:20] it was first presented for September I [35:23] was President it was a presentation yeah okay Mr palamini I guess I don't [35:29] really disagree with 99 of what you said [35:32] I'll take it there you go so [35:35] um I guess the one issue I have is we're [35:39] presupposing a grievance with the Union [35:43] where there is now so there's a process [35:46] in place if they have an issue to bring [35:49] agreements forward [35:51] so we are assuming there's a problem [35:54] before there's a problem [35:57] so [35:58] let's move forward if there's an issue [36:01] they'll bring It Forward there's a [36:03] process in place for them to do that [36:06] and take care of the issue [36:10] well I I don't see this as as presuppose [36:13] I don't see it's presupposing there's [36:15] going to be a grievance what I said was [36:16] that they reached out and wanted to to [36:18] hear about it prior to the to us making [36:21] this that is what I said and so if that [36:25] would in my opinion if that would so [36:27] they know what's going to happen and [36:28] what will or not happen what we will or [36:31] will not do will avoid their being a [36:34] grievance but to have to inform a group [36:37] of people who are going to be a part of [36:39] this process I don't think it's the [36:41] worst thing that we could do [36:48] I was just reiterating like I don't [36:51] think that we're you know assuming that [36:54] there will be a grievance I'm certainly [36:55] not saying that what I'm saying is that [36:57] hey make an informed decision by [36:59] discussing all parties involved it's [37:02] probably is the best practice [37:04] thankfully and luckily it seems like [37:06] we're all pretty much aligned with the [37:07] support of the program as long as it's [37:10] um can operate within the parameters [37:12] that needs to so again talk to the union [37:14] move forward and all as well [37:19] [Music] [37:24] so at this point in time um there was [37:26] motion it was not second and we'll bring [37:28] it back in two weeks after the mayor has [37:30] had the conversation with you [37:37] item number four uh division uh one of [37:40] the latest uh ladies order of hypernians [37:42] in all people's viruses sentence [37:43] Schenectady for the feast of Saint [37:45] Patrick is Patrick yes this is our [37:48] annual resolution celebrating uh St [37:52] Patrick's Day [37:53] um along with the Ancient Order of [37:55] fibernians so it'll be here uh will they [37:59] I don't know if there's any good dancers [38:01] this year that they they normally bring [38:02] the Step dancers but [38:05] um [38:06] so that's that's what this is so we just [38:08] have ceremony resolution [38:11] so second all is a favor [38:14] aye [38:16] um the agenda for property sales [38:19] so at this point in time I want to [38:21] entertain a motion to go into executive [38:23] session so second all the paper all [38:27] right