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Council committee for Monday April 3rd

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um the first item on the agenda is a

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presentation here McCartney thank you

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madam president

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Mr motivaran had sent an email back in

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February I questioned the

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debt collector from the assessment

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office who staffed at a house

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where they prevented some work done I

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thought it would just be good to review

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what the building

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inspector does what the assessor does

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the respective roles in terms of how

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some of the information is handled and

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processed and again some of the things

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are a little more complex than what most

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people think of and there's not

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sometimes easy conclusions for it but in

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that email it raises the implications of

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these discrimination and I assure you

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that does not happen

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May the staff and if it is in any shape

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form or manner happening it will not

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tolerate it and with that I'd turn it

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over your name to start the presentation

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so mayor we have uh I do have um I got

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that video as welcome so from so the

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rest of the complex Concepts can they

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see the video sure

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Thomas

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we have two out of the three screenings

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it's just it's just that one

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is that the best article we've got I'm

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sorry over here

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basically the exchange of the

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conversation and she went there and

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asked if she could do an inspection of

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the property

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um and she was following up on permits

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that's kind of part of the process and

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part of what I'll talk about today

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um and she asked if you do an inspection

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and we do that and then homeowner has

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the right to say not they don't want us

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in our in their property and that's why

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she just was explaining that it's in

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that benefit for us to be able to see it

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yeah you need to come on over mind okay

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I'm sorry it's okay

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um so it's in the best interest of a

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property owner to go to allow us to see

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the property because there's something

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in a phrasing called extraordinary

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assumptions and if we see that the

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outside of a property is done we make

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the assumption that inside is gone as

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well and so it all leads into Data

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accuracy and um

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and or the appraisal process evaluation

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process so when we're able to go out and

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take accurate measurements and take a

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look at properties to see the bedroom

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town the bathroom count and the

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condition of the property it gives us a

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better sense of how to Value the

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property and what what properties to use

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as a comparison and so that's kind of

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the that builds everything that we do

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and then I'll talk a little bit more

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about it but not even I just we wanted

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to say thank you for allowing us the

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opportunity to come in and talk to you

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guys about the process because I think

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as City Council Members it's really

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important for you all to be able to help

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us dispel myths and misconceptions that property owners have in the city

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about how we do this process and about

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the things that we're really looking for

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when we go out also the scope of work

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that we're looking at when we go out to

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do an inspection so we have an agenda we're going to talk

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a little bit about ourselves

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and give you some background in us and

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then talk about some facts and

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statistics in each other offices then

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I'll give Naim the microphone and he can

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talk a little bit about the building

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department

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I will follow up with more about the

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assessment department and then we'll do

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a wrap up and offer you guys the

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opportunity for any questions that you

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what's up

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um so I'm Molly McIlroy the assessor

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here I'm starting my ninth year in May I

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feel like I've had several careers

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before I even got to this point I was a

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financial analyst for a little while I

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was a director of residential life at

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Union but I finished up my MBA and then

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had an opportunity to come here and work

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in the city as the assessor city has put

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a lot of time and effort into educating

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me and you know getting me to some some

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places that I can now feel more

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comfortable doing a position I am a New

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York state appraiser I have a state

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certification as an assessor and I'm a

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member of the New York State assessors

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Association and also an executive board

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member for the Albany Schenectady

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assessors Association and in that comes

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a lot of training comes a lot of

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continuing education that I'm required

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to do not only for my appraiser license

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but also for the assessor certification

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code enforcement officer from this job

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so it's four and a half years we'll be

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in the city for about five years now in

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June I'm gonna be five years for me here

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as a code enforcement officer

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or a certificate holder

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I have been a uh still am a resident for

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Schenectady since 2003 I do have my

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electrical license that's just things I

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went and pursued afterwards just so I

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can still make myself and be a little

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better and be a little better at the job

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I have construction background

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lead certified ocean certified those

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kind of things and and then these were

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not requirements for the city they were

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just things that I wanted to do for

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something

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um you can't really dispute facts and

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numbers so I wanted to give a little bit

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of information we have 19

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965 Parcels in the city industrial

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commercial vacant land and residential

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we have a total assessed value of just

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shy of four billion dollars and we have

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a total taxable value of about 2.5

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billion

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um we processed between January 2021 and

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December 2022 we processed

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3657 sales in the city and I have one important thing I wanted to point

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out is that 538 of those sales were over

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200 000 and those are Residential

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Properties and one thing that's very

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interesting about that is that those

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properties are all over the city it

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doesn't matter the neighborhood they're

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in it doesn't north south east west they

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are the common denominators

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the common denominator is that those

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properties were renovated so they were

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completely flipped from Bare Bones to

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absolutely gorgeous I mean properties

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that are just I got to move into them

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anytime anytime and so it just shows

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that things are really going well here

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in the city of Schenectady we processed

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for the 2022 assessment rule we

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processed 9144 exemption applications

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anywhere from senior low-income student

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non-profit exemption applications and

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then the grievance period we have since

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I've been here we've gone from a total

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of 453 grievance applications submitted

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to last year we only had 44. yeah I'd

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like to take some credit in that but a

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lot of it has to do with the market how

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well the Market's doing

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um but I think

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we we have a very transparent office and

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we really try to listen to people when

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they come in we try to make accurate

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valuations of property and really try to

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focus heating is fair and Equitable as

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we can across the city

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I just did a um

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revenue of what was generated last year

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from the billing department the total

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amount of inspection we did was about 6

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700 permits issue 2500. notice a

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violation it was a a year we did do a

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lot of notice evaluation we had a lot of

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City sail from Exposition issue which

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that I I do like that number being that

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high because it showed that there was a

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lot of cdcl property so when the city

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sells a property they pay that 500 and

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they can get their apartment to be

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waived this VIN number I'm hoping that

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can go up this year if it should have

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more City on Broadway sold

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do a lot of rental inspections or permit

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fees was pretty high last year 1.5

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million

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um we have a lot of admin fees for

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closer violations building registry fee

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complaints

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we have we also do the certificate of

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use public assembly and we have other

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inspections like um

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public amusements outdoor cafes those

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other things so we have a total roughly

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a little two million dollars generated

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last year now the reason why I

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the revenue that we generated there is

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breaking down the fees where we're

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getting that money from for the permit

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so when people are pulling Apartments it

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brings money back into the city that

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money can go back out to the city so

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it's a whole process so that's that's

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just the main reason why I decided to

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just put my alarms

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okay so at the building department this

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is called photographics

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we try our best to improve our public

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health safety for every octane we look

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at the building as a whole and we've

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been building and everyone who occupies

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it not just people who are visiting or

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people who are living in there we do our

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best to educate our residents on our

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city code policies procedure and making

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sure everybody's on the same page doing

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the right thing we perform a lot of fire

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safety inspection life safety

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inspections and construction inspections

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you do them as required

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we try to deliver a standard we adhere

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to a cold and we try to stay

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professional and unbiased with everyone

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we work on

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so over the years our performance

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process has gotten simpler we're trying

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to make it easier we now have it where

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you can apply for permits online in

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person same as always but the online

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aspect we started about two years ago

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and we have been getting a lot of

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positive feedback

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that's a screenshot of the city's

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website if you can click one more show

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that's the Performing application to do

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permits online our typical process takes

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about five or seven days for review all

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depends on the scope of work sometimes

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it takes longer it has control between

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different departments for review and of

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course

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oh and one more thing I'll mention about

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the permits all the permits have a

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description of the school report that is

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important for us to know what's being

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done on the property doing interior work

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exterior work deck siding we would like

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that in the description

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there are multiple inspections on the

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products for example I have here where

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is to have the foundation the framing

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inspection the final inspection the roof

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fire roofing inspections with multiple

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inspection that's involved on multiple

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different projects

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whenever we do inspections we take

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detailed notes and we take photos of

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every inspection that information gets

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uploaded into municity the system that

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we use as accessible by all the other

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departments

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this is one thing that we don't like

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doing what happens is when you don't

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hold permits you can get started

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now stop recorders are issue two ways if

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we catch people working without permits

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or we find them doing they did work

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without the code or if they're working

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outside the scope of that description of

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the program that they originally applied

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for

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now we we don't go out and go for it and

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a lot of our sub workers come from

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reports from the public

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it's we find it when we go into an

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inspection or while we're just driving

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back into CCP point of doing some work

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we try to tell people to pull your

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permits because as you can see here it's

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500 is the fee and then all the permit

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fee doubles after that so our simple

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roof permit for example will cost you

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700 instead of 100.

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so a good practice that we tell people

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and the public is just ask Paul's ask or

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do you need a program

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at the end of every projects homeowners

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would be able to obtain a certificate of

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completion that's only issued when that

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permit is closed up we're not going to

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issue if there's open permits related to

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that project

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a certificate of occupancy is issued

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professor at the final inspection we

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have seen over the years buyers sellers

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Banks insurance companies they have been

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requesting to see if

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we have a certificate of occupancy or if

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permits were pulled for certain projects

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that's being done

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people are getting smarter now they're

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seeing a brand new house they want to

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make sure that everything was fixed

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apart and I say if you're paying to get

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a job done it can be done correctly be

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happy with that

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um

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yeah that's that's it for me with the um

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all right so I just want to give you

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just some brief information about

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um our department so assessment is not

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an exact science

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um I've found it's you know some days

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it's it's really fun and some days it's

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really challenging I mean as is any job

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um there was a former Supreme Court

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Justice Cardozo

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um had said at one point that the task

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of the assessor is to find the least

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erroneous answer to an unsolvable

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problem and I do I mean I find that as a

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challenge every day that there's no you

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could put 10 assessors appraisers in a

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room and each one of them is going to

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give you a different opinion of value

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and that's exactly what it is it's an

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opinion of that

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so you know my my role as the assessor

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is to Value property within the city

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limits to produce a fair and Equitable

388
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tax rule or assessment role which then

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leads into the tax rules I focus mostly

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on Commercial valuation though I review

391
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the appraisers

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appraisals of residential property I

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00:28:09,659 --> 00:28:12,960
basically managed and and administer the

394
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programs and processes and day-to-day

395
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,620
stuff in the office but there's a lot of

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you know minutia that goes on that's

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00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:25,140
fills the day with other things and

398
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fires and emergencies and this and that

399
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so

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um they have the rest of the staff which

401
00:28:30,539 --> 00:28:33,179
a real property analyst focuses on our

402
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exemption process

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00:28:35,100 --> 00:28:36,900
um she also takes all the Deeds that we

404
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get from the county and make sure the

405
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,320
transfers of ownership are correct in

406
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our system a real property appraiser

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00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:44,700
focuses on valuation of residential

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property and then I I review her

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appraisals

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um we look at not only you know what a

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00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,720
property is compared to a smaller number

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of properties but also what does it look

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like in comparison to the properties

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within the neighborhoods does it match

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up are we too far out of line because we

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do attempt to make everything fair and

417
00:29:05,340 --> 00:29:08,400
Equitable when looking at valuation our

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data collector as you had seen earlier

419
00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:12,900
she really is exactly that goes out into

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the field she's our main field person

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00:29:14,659 --> 00:29:17,940
she focuses on collecting as accurate of

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the data in each property all over the

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City commercial residential doesn't

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matter what it is because we're not the

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00:29:25,559 --> 00:29:27,779
only office that uses that data we get

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calls from the fire department we get

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00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:31,380
calls from the police department we get

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00:29:31,380 --> 00:29:33,779
calls from the codes office every day

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00:29:33,779 --> 00:29:35,520
we're working together to try and make

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sure that everything is as accurate as

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possible

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and then a real property clerk is the

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face of the office she sits at the front

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desk she greets everybody she's kind of

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the glue that holds us all together

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because she the one who's when somebody

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00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:52,080
comes in she figures out what they need

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00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:53,460
to feed whether they need to actually be

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00:29:53,460 --> 00:29:55,380
in our office or if they need to see

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00:29:55,380 --> 00:29:57,200
somebody else in the building

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and it's just in a lot of different

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00:29:59,340 --> 00:30:01,860
things she assessing it with foil she

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00:30:01,860 --> 00:30:03,480
does some filing which is not glamorous

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00:30:03,480 --> 00:30:05,399
but it's absolutely necessary so that we

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00:30:05,399 --> 00:30:07,380
know where things are in the office

446
00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:10,140
but everybody just kind of pitches in

447
00:30:10,140 --> 00:30:12,120
different times of the year we all go to

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the front desk we all talk to Property

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00:30:14,039 --> 00:30:16,260
Owners we all answer the phone so

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everybody kind of pitches in that way

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00:30:19,740 --> 00:30:26,450
that's just a little bit we have an assessment

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December kind of calendar

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00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:30,480
I don't have to go through all of those

454
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:32,340
but some of the things evaluation date

455
00:30:32,340 --> 00:30:34,799
is an important piece taxable status day

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00:30:34,799 --> 00:30:36,600
that's the day that we kind of take a

457
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,580
snapshot of how properties exist in the

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00:30:38,580 --> 00:30:39,720
city

459
00:30:39,720 --> 00:30:41,880
the tentative assessment role that's any

460
00:30:41,880 --> 00:30:43,860
evaluation changes that happen they come

461
00:30:43,860 --> 00:30:45,600
out in the tenant assessment role May

462
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:48,000
1st and then grievance period follows

463
00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,039
that from May 1st to the fourth Tuesday

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00:30:50,039 --> 00:30:53,820
of May very random but that's what real

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00:30:53,820 --> 00:30:56,760
property tax law dictated so our final

466
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:58,799
assessment rule gets put out on July 1st

467
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the school tax roll information goes to

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00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:04,440
the school district's middle of July and

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00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:06,720
then we send the city tax roll to the

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tax department here in December

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thanks

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um so there's a lot of there's a lot of

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00:31:14,399 --> 00:31:15,720
things that are interesting in our

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00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,480
office one of them is Equalization rate

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00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:21,120
it's it uses or it helps determine debt

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00:31:21,120 --> 00:31:23,760
limits it helps determine

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um sales tax revenue helps to turn

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00:31:25,919 --> 00:31:29,520
funding for school districts it helps to

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00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,620
it helps as a comparison for

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00:31:31,620 --> 00:31:34,020
municipalities across the state but it's

481
00:31:34,020 --> 00:31:36,899
a really hard thing to explain we're

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00:31:36,899 --> 00:31:39,000
required each year to send sales to the

483
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:40,860
state and then we go through the process

484
00:31:40,860 --> 00:31:43,380
of determining what our Equalization

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00:31:43,380 --> 00:31:45,419
rate is um and I'm up here I've put the

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00:31:45,419 --> 00:31:47,419
last 10 years worth of Equalization rate

487
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and I started in 2014 and we were at a

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00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:55,320
high of 123 percent we've gone now we've

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00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:58,440
dropped 44 to 79 is what our

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Equalization rate will be this year and

491
00:32:00,779 --> 00:32:02,880
I put the 2013 number up there because

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00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,600
the jump from 2013 to 2014 was pretty

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00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:08,700
excessive and one of the important

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00:32:08,700 --> 00:32:10,679
things that we do is analyze sales in

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00:32:10,679 --> 00:32:13,020
our office to make sure we're sending

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00:32:13,020 --> 00:32:16,140
our sales to the state and they show

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00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:17,820
that the state is only going to use the

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ones that are arms like sales so buy a

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willing buyer and a willing seller it

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jumped 15 and and when it's when you get

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00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:30,299
a Equalization rate of 123 percent

502
00:32:30,299 --> 00:32:32,580
we're saying that if property is worth a

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hundred thousand dollars in the market

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they would actually be taxed on 123 000.

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and some of that was due to no there

506
00:32:41,039 --> 00:32:42,600
wasn't an assessor during the time when

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we would send the sales between 2013 and

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00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:50,159
2014. so there is some there's some you

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00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:52,559
know importance to us looking at the

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sales and doing the sales analysis that

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00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:57,419
we do in our office so now look at 79

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and we're saying the same house that is

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worth a hundred thousand dollars on the

514
00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,299
market they're only paying being taxed

515
00:33:03,299 --> 00:33:05,340
on Seventy nine thousand which is great

516
00:33:05,340 --> 00:33:07,200
for homeowners great for property owners

517
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:10,320
except for us we're losing out on 21 in

518
00:33:10,320 --> 00:33:12,480
value when we look at revaluating so

519
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:15,179
really the optimal place to be is 100 so

520
00:33:15,179 --> 00:33:16,559
that you're you're saying that you're

521
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:18,539
taxing a property on what it's actually

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00:33:18,539 --> 00:33:20,039
worth in the market and what someone

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00:33:20,039 --> 00:33:29,289
could get when they sold the property

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00:33:29,299 --> 00:33:33,889
the important things

525
00:33:33,899 --> 00:33:35,940
so there's five sections of our

526
00:33:35,940 --> 00:33:38,220
assessment rule the first section is the

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taxable portion of the role and that's

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00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:42,000
where most of the majority of our

529
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:44,220
properties so that 2.5 billion that I

530
00:33:44,220 --> 00:33:45,779
talked about earlier that's where you

531
00:33:45,779 --> 00:33:47,940
find most of the value there's rule

532
00:33:47,940 --> 00:33:49,559
sections five six and seven which

533
00:33:49,559 --> 00:33:50,940
contain properties that are

534
00:33:50,940 --> 00:33:53,899
infrastructure their telecommunications

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00:33:53,899 --> 00:33:56,580
railroads and then we have our holy

536
00:33:56,580 --> 00:33:58,080
exempt role which is our role section

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00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,899
eight and I bring this up because we

538
00:34:00,899 --> 00:34:03,600
have 38 of our property and sit that's

539
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,480
wholly exact that's the challenge of

540
00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:07,919
being in a big city whether you're

541
00:34:07,919 --> 00:34:11,300
providing the services to all of the

542
00:34:11,300 --> 00:34:13,619
surrounding municipalities we have

543
00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:15,540
hospitals we have educational facilities

544
00:34:15,540 --> 00:34:18,780
more educational facilities we have the

545
00:34:18,780 --> 00:34:20,580
county seat you know so we have County

546
00:34:20,580 --> 00:34:22,379
buildings we have a lot of things that

547
00:34:22,379 --> 00:34:24,119
we don't have quite the challenge that

548
00:34:24,119 --> 00:34:26,399
the city of Albany has but we do have

549
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:29,099
some challenges so the work that we do

550
00:34:29,099 --> 00:34:31,139
is really important and going out and

551
00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:32,820
looking at different the progress of

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00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:33,960
different properties and the develop

553
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:36,060
throughout the city and making sure

554
00:34:36,060 --> 00:34:38,940
we're able to capture that um in the

555
00:34:38,940 --> 00:34:41,220
assessed value that that's really what

556
00:34:41,220 --> 00:34:44,040
we are here for because if we kept the

557
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,839
assessed value the same every year if

558
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:47,639
everything stayed the same and the city

559
00:34:47,639 --> 00:34:49,980
tax levy went up that means we have to

560
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:53,280
raise taxes so tax rates go up if we're

561
00:34:53,280 --> 00:34:54,540
doing the work that we're doing we're

562
00:34:54,540 --> 00:34:55,800
going out we're looking at new

563
00:34:55,800 --> 00:34:57,359
properties we're looking at properties

564
00:34:57,359 --> 00:34:58,859
that are flipped and we're making

565
00:34:58,859 --> 00:35:00,740
accurate valuations of those properties

566
00:35:00,740 --> 00:35:03,240
and we're still either spending the same

567
00:35:03,240 --> 00:35:05,339
or spending less that's how you all can

568
00:35:05,339 --> 00:35:07,080
reduce the number of taxes that people

569
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:10,619
pay in the city so it's it's it's a huge

570
00:35:10,619 --> 00:35:12,540
process it's a it's a difficult process

571
00:35:12,540 --> 00:35:14,640
but it's so so important to the work

572
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,619
that happens in the city and being able

573
00:35:16,619 --> 00:35:18,359
to provide all the other services and

574
00:35:18,359 --> 00:35:23,530
things that we want to do

575
00:35:23,540 --> 00:35:26,520
all right so getting to the process here

576
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:27,900
there's three ways we engage with the

577
00:35:27,900 --> 00:35:30,440
Public Public requests for inspection

578
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,240
permits and informal meeting requests

579
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,400
the public Professor inspection anyone

580
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,260
can come in and ask for us to come out

581
00:35:37,260 --> 00:35:39,000
and take a look at their property most

582
00:35:39,000 --> 00:35:40,440
of the time it's to make sure data is

583
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,720
accurate informal meeting requests

584
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:44,700
someone can come in and ask to have a

585
00:35:44,700 --> 00:35:46,440
meeting with me and talk about their

586
00:35:46,440 --> 00:35:49,079
assessed value I usually like to make

587
00:35:49,079 --> 00:35:50,160
sure that they've done their homework

588
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:52,020
and they have they have an appraisal or

589
00:35:52,020 --> 00:35:53,099
there's some kind of valuation

590
00:35:53,099 --> 00:35:54,780
instrument that shows that they

591
00:35:54,780 --> 00:35:57,780
understand what it is they're asking

592
00:35:57,780 --> 00:36:00,000
um and then the permit process so when

593
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,280
nines Office is done with the work that

594
00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:04,320
they do that's when we go out to take a

595
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,300
look at the changes and properties if

596
00:36:06,300 --> 00:36:07,980
you walk down any Street in the city

597
00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:09,900
there's so much development going on and

598
00:36:09,900 --> 00:36:12,060
it's fantastic but we need to make sure

599
00:36:12,060 --> 00:36:14,700
that we are capturing that information

600
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,859
um you know every day I hear from our

601
00:36:16,859 --> 00:36:18,420
plumbing inspector or the electrical

602
00:36:18,420 --> 00:36:21,359
inspector that we have a property that

603
00:36:21,359 --> 00:36:23,700
was newly built and we don't have we

604
00:36:23,700 --> 00:36:25,380
have it as vacant lands so those are the

605
00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:26,640
things that we're really looking for

606
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:29,880
when we go out into the field

607
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:30,900
um

608
00:36:30,900 --> 00:36:33,540
so if we determine that evaluation

609
00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:35,940
change is necessary we do there's three

610
00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:37,980
different ways sales comparison method

611
00:36:37,980 --> 00:36:39,300
where we're looking at different sales

612
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:40,619
throughout the city

613
00:36:40,619 --> 00:36:42,240
that's generally used just for

614
00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:45,780
Residential Properties we do income

615
00:36:45,780 --> 00:36:47,880
capitalization which is where we're how

616
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,760
we value commercial properties and then

617
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:52,619
we look at cost for more specialty

618
00:36:52,619 --> 00:36:54,500
properties like for instance the casino

619
00:36:54,500 --> 00:36:57,060
that was valued using the cost method

620
00:36:57,060 --> 00:37:00,480
because the real guts of a casino are

621
00:37:00,480 --> 00:37:02,400
the machines and everything but that's

622
00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,140
personal property so we don't place a

623
00:37:04,140 --> 00:37:07,490
value on that stuff

624
00:37:07,500 --> 00:37:09,599
so we go through those that process and

625
00:37:09,599 --> 00:37:10,859
if they're if a value change is

626
00:37:10,859 --> 00:37:13,200
necessary then we have we are legally

627
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,180
required to send out valuation change

628
00:37:15,180 --> 00:37:17,820
notices as I make a change in our system

629
00:37:17,820 --> 00:37:20,339
it spits out a letter and we send those

630
00:37:20,339 --> 00:37:22,740
letters out to to Property Owners so

631
00:37:22,740 --> 00:37:25,560
that starts the process of grievance and

632
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,320
it gives them the opportunity to comment

633
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,500
into our office and the I think one of

634
00:37:31,500 --> 00:37:32,880
the really fortunate things about the

635
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:37,619
assessment process is that we have many different options for appeals for

636
00:37:37,619 --> 00:37:39,780
folks to appeal the work that we do in

637
00:37:39,780 --> 00:37:41,940
our office you know the first part of

638
00:37:41,940 --> 00:37:43,560
that is what's called a correction of

639
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,119
Errors that's something that I can do

640
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:46,980
once I put out the tentative assessment

641
00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:50,640
role I can't make any changes but unless

642
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:52,560
a court order or through the grievance

643
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,660
process but the correction on errors

644
00:37:54,660 --> 00:37:58,380
gives me the opportunity to make some

645
00:37:58,380 --> 00:38:00,540
minor level changes somebody we forgot

646
00:38:00,540 --> 00:38:02,940
an exemption on someone's property or

647
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:04,859
they had torn down their garage and we

648
00:38:04,859 --> 00:38:06,420
didn't we weren't able to capture that

649
00:38:06,420 --> 00:38:07,920
so they were letting us know so we to

650
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:10,920
make that correction the bigger the

651
00:38:10,920 --> 00:38:12,480
bigger pieces our administrative review

652
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:14,640
and judicial review administrative

653
00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:16,560
review is the grievance process it's the

654
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,720
board of assessment review folks can

655
00:38:18,720 --> 00:38:21,540
submit applications and then they go and

656
00:38:21,540 --> 00:38:23,700
they can either go to the board and have

657
00:38:23,700 --> 00:38:26,960
a meeting or they can

658
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:29,040
just submit the application the board

659
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:30,660
removes every application that's

660
00:38:30,660 --> 00:38:33,000
submitted whether or not the property

661
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:35,160
owner goes to agreements to the previous

662
00:38:35,160 --> 00:38:36,839
day

663
00:38:36,839 --> 00:38:39,540
um they make their deliberations and

664
00:38:39,540 --> 00:38:41,339
then let us know what changes in

665
00:38:41,339 --> 00:38:43,700
property value to put into our system

666
00:38:43,700 --> 00:38:47,099
and then the step after that is judicial

667
00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:48,960
review which gives folks another

668
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,780
opportunity through the first part is

669
00:38:51,780 --> 00:38:54,000
small claims that's they can go up to

670
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,160
the county file with the county and then

671
00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:57,780
a hearing officer is assigned to the

672
00:38:57,780 --> 00:39:00,240
case and the hearing officer will sit

673
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:02,520
down with both of us and the property

674
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,859
owner we will give our sides talk about

675
00:39:04,859 --> 00:39:06,960
why we believe our values are correct

676
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,760
and the hearing officer makes the

677
00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:09,160
decision

678
00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:10,560
[Music]

679
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,839
and then the second piece to that is a

680
00:39:12,839 --> 00:39:15,240
article 7 tax certiary proceeding which

681
00:39:15,240 --> 00:39:17,700
does require an attorney it can be a bit

682
00:39:17,700 --> 00:39:19,980
of an expense it's the only option for

683
00:39:19,980 --> 00:39:22,079
commercial properties I know I'm sure

684
00:39:22,079 --> 00:39:24,660
you've all had us you know had text or

685
00:39:24,660 --> 00:39:26,339
shared conversations in here and

686
00:39:26,339 --> 00:39:28,619
sometimes the impact of those is is

687
00:39:28,619 --> 00:39:30,180
pretty big on the city

688
00:39:30,180 --> 00:39:32,280
but it's the opportunity for a property

689
00:39:32,280 --> 00:39:34,680
owner to appeal that process and to

690
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,839
prove why they think that their property

691
00:39:36,839 --> 00:39:39,000
is a little value

692
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:39,960
um

693
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,540
so which I think that's yeah okay so

694
00:39:42,540 --> 00:39:44,640
just want to be able to give you a

695
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,079
little bit of an opportunity to

696
00:39:46,079 --> 00:39:47,700
understand

697
00:39:47,700 --> 00:39:50,040
um in a little more depth of the work

698
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,800
that we do why our offices here

699
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,839
um and that we're really we're going out

700
00:39:54,839 --> 00:39:56,460
and we're looking at all properties that

701
00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:59,160
would be on all permits now when I say

702
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,900
those 19 000 properties in the city

703
00:40:00,900 --> 00:40:02,520
there's only five of us in the office

704
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:04,980
and we only have one field person so if

705
00:40:04,980 --> 00:40:07,380
we get to 300 properties a year that's

706
00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:10,320
pretty good in terms of you know and so

707
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:12,300
I know that I've heard people say well

708
00:40:12,300 --> 00:40:14,280
my property was done two years ago and

709
00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:15,720
you're just getting to it now and

710
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:17,640
unfortunately I mean that's just the

711
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:19,980
kind of the nature of the work

712
00:40:19,980 --> 00:40:22,440
um but we want to again say thank you

713
00:40:22,440 --> 00:40:24,960
and also offering anyone in the room the

714
00:40:24,960 --> 00:40:26,700
opportunity if you want to do a

715
00:40:26,700 --> 00:40:29,099
ride-along with any of our our field

716
00:40:29,099 --> 00:40:30,420
people just so you can see some of the

717
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:32,220
challenges that we Face going out into

718
00:40:32,220 --> 00:40:33,420
the field

719
00:40:33,420 --> 00:40:35,640
and or just see what the process looks

720
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,260
like from you know from the other side

721
00:40:37,260 --> 00:40:39,240
and have a better understanding of it

722
00:40:39,240 --> 00:40:41,940
that way so now just give you guys the

723
00:40:41,940 --> 00:40:43,740
opportunity to ask any questions or

724
00:40:43,740 --> 00:40:45,060
comments

725
00:40:45,060 --> 00:40:49,490
anything like that

726
00:40:49,500 --> 00:40:51,060
um first of all I thank you for giving

727
00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:52,740
the this really good overview and

728
00:40:52,740 --> 00:40:54,000
sometimes people just don't understand

729
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,220
the process so having the public know

730
00:40:56,220 --> 00:40:57,839
what the process is and also educating

731
00:40:57,839 --> 00:40:59,220
us so we can answer some questions

732
00:40:59,220 --> 00:41:01,619
certainly not all questions so I

733
00:41:01,619 --> 00:41:03,000
appreciate that

734
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,880
um so specifically so you only have one

735
00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:07,020
data collected that's one of my

736
00:41:07,020 --> 00:41:09,599
questions yeah okay yeah I mean

737
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:12,480
sometimes I go out in the field or my um

738
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,040
the appraisal will go out to the field

739
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,560
but the the whole point of the data

740
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,359
collector is to be the one that will

741
00:41:18,359 --> 00:41:19,560
have the field to capture that

742
00:41:19,560 --> 00:41:21,960
information so that person doesn't make

743
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,780
it I what we saw was that someone they

744
00:41:24,780 --> 00:41:26,099
just showed at their house they don't

745
00:41:26,099 --> 00:41:28,800
make an appointment like to go there so

746
00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,300
that the owner knows that they're coming

747
00:41:30,300 --> 00:41:32,760
yeah sometimes they do if they have the

748
00:41:32,760 --> 00:41:34,500
information the problem is that permits

749
00:41:34,500 --> 00:41:36,000
aren't often taken by the homeowner

750
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:37,760
sometimes they're taken by a contractor

751
00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,680
sometimes it's months after the work was

752
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:42,599
done and we don't we don't keep we don't

753
00:41:42,599 --> 00:41:44,160
have phone numbers in our office we just

754
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,440
have addresses so sometimes it's just

755
00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:47,940
going up and knocking on a door and

756
00:41:47,940 --> 00:41:50,099
saying can we do an inspection if we

757
00:41:50,099 --> 00:41:52,079
can't find another way to get in touch

758
00:41:52,079 --> 00:41:54,660
with someone if we're lucky then we get

759
00:41:54,660 --> 00:41:56,339
that information or they you know they

760
00:41:56,339 --> 00:41:57,960
come into the office and ask us to come

761
00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,359
in and look at the property but nine

762
00:42:00,359 --> 00:42:02,579
times out of ten it's it's worth you

763
00:42:02,579 --> 00:42:04,140
know looking at so many different data

764
00:42:04,140 --> 00:42:06,300
sources trying to to sometimes it's a

765
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:08,220
real estate agent too because the pro

766
00:42:08,220 --> 00:42:10,560
the property is in the process of being

767
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:12,300
sold so we don't know who the owner is

768
00:42:12,300 --> 00:42:14,400
going to be

769
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,920
that's you know that's kind of it's a

770
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:17,760
challenge

771
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:20,220
um and I know nobody wants to see

772
00:42:20,220 --> 00:42:22,020
someone coming up there

773
00:42:22,020 --> 00:42:24,839
um you know their their their driveway

774
00:42:24,839 --> 00:42:27,480
and going in and um you know looking at

775
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:29,520
their property but sometimes that's the

776
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:31,680
only way and again those those folks

777
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:33,060
have the opportunity to say no they

778
00:42:33,060 --> 00:42:34,619
don't want um they don't want an

779
00:42:34,619 --> 00:42:36,300
inspection and that's fine and then we

780
00:42:36,300 --> 00:42:37,920
just leave

781
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:39,839
and the grievance period is like three

782
00:42:39,839 --> 00:42:43,560
weeks yeah yeah and some sometimes it

783
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,680
seems it feels longer but it's um yeah

784
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,020
it's the it's from May 1st until the

785
00:42:49,020 --> 00:42:52,490
fourth Tuesday I think

786
00:42:52,500 --> 00:42:54,660
um then I have a question for applying

787
00:42:54,660 --> 00:42:57,480
so I I know like this one maybe I love

788
00:42:57,480 --> 00:42:59,099
you for you with building inspector um

789
00:42:59,099 --> 00:43:01,440
but there was a time when they were

790
00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:02,880
talking about having iPads going out

791
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,500
into the field so do your do they

792
00:43:04,500 --> 00:43:05,700
currently have iPads where they can just

793
00:43:05,700 --> 00:43:07,140
like put the information in and put it

794
00:43:07,140 --> 00:43:09,140
right back in the office

795
00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:11,579
so as soon as an inspection is completed

796
00:43:11,579 --> 00:43:13,800
the notes the photos it's all uploaded

797
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:14,819
into the system

798
00:43:14,819 --> 00:43:17,099
and I and you also talked about

799
00:43:17,099 --> 00:43:19,440
educating residents of the city so is

800
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:21,000
there a printed information like if

801
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:22,680
someone could wanted the information

802
00:43:22,680 --> 00:43:24,839
about how the process works down there

803
00:43:24,839 --> 00:43:26,040
is there something they can come in and

804
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:27,839
pick up we have

805
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:32,460
um checklists that we can give out for example rental inspection we do have

806
00:43:32,460 --> 00:43:34,819
checklists that we give out we have um

807
00:43:34,819 --> 00:43:37,200
layouts of smoke alarms where they need

808
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,300
to be inside your building and I am in

809
00:43:39,300 --> 00:43:40,980
the process of working on a more

810
00:43:40,980 --> 00:43:44,760
in-depth checklists for construction if

811
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:47,160
you're deck what's the requirement for

812
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,680
Tech those kind of things so that's what

813
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:51,720
the educating process comes in play is

814
00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:55,079
that we have half of it we're just we

815
00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,579
gotta we gotta and change with the

816
00:43:56,579 --> 00:43:58,140
culture become a cold chain you gotta

817
00:43:58,140 --> 00:44:00,540
hope they cool yeah so what we have is a

818
00:44:00,540 --> 00:44:02,040
little bit outdated so we're in the

819
00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:03,839
process of updating this right and

820
00:44:03,839 --> 00:44:05,700
really my final question is

821
00:44:05,700 --> 00:44:08,520
um the violations is there what's the

822
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:09,960
follow-up process to that so if someone

823
00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:12,000
gets a violation What is the following

824
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,920
process so when somebody receives this

825
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,560
violation they have the comply by date

826
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:19,800
now they have until that day to comply

827
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,579
with the violation that they're in so

828
00:44:23,579 --> 00:44:26,640
we go into an inspection the day after

829
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:29,040
that compliance because they have up

830
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:31,680
until the midnight of that day so like

831
00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:33,240
on the first you have until the the

832
00:44:33,240 --> 00:44:34,560
first so the second we do a

833
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:37,200
re-inspection if the complaint if the

834
00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:39,300
violation is not corrected

835
00:44:39,300 --> 00:44:42,420
we would proceed to issue in tickets or

836
00:44:42,420 --> 00:44:45,900
if the owner submits a request for an

837
00:44:45,900 --> 00:44:47,640
extension we review that and if it's

838
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:49,980
granted we will grant them a reasonable

839
00:44:49,980 --> 00:44:52,200
amount of time depends on what type is

840
00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:53,819
so the different violations have

841
00:44:53,819 --> 00:44:56,760
different dates yes most of it is 30

842
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,950
days

843
00:44:59,960 --> 00:45:02,099
sorry I just wanted to make one more

844
00:45:02,099 --> 00:45:05,520
comment when I mentioned scope of work

845
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,700
um and I I glossed over it a little bit

846
00:45:08,700 --> 00:45:11,099
to the scope of work but we don't go out

847
00:45:11,099 --> 00:45:13,619
and do inspections for every permit

848
00:45:13,619 --> 00:45:15,240
that's out there I mean if somebody's

849
00:45:15,240 --> 00:45:16,800
fitting in your roof it really doesn't

850
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:18,480
change the value much in terms of like

851
00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:20,660
for our someone's getting a new boiler

852
00:45:20,660 --> 00:45:22,500
they're doing maintenance general

853
00:45:22,500 --> 00:45:24,480
maintenance items those don't require us

854
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,460
because there's just no reason for us to

855
00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:29,460
do that we look at full scale

856
00:45:29,460 --> 00:45:31,140
Renovations of a home you know I mean

857
00:45:31,140 --> 00:45:34,220
from top to bottom the property was

858
00:45:34,220 --> 00:45:37,740
changed inside outside if there's

859
00:45:37,740 --> 00:45:41,160
obvious signs of a change of the

860
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,500
property that's that's kind of so that's

861
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:45,540
another misconception that folks have is

862
00:45:45,540 --> 00:45:47,280
that we're out every time that there's a

863
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,960
change and that doesn't we just we

864
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,819
couldn't do it we have to we have to

865
00:45:50,819 --> 00:45:52,920
focus on something so we focus on those

866
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,720
large scale changes that really do

867
00:45:54,720 --> 00:46:01,670
change the value

868
00:46:01,680 --> 00:46:05,160
okay yeah I'm glad uh the mayor is

869
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,619
bringing forward to some discussion in

870
00:46:07,619 --> 00:46:09,660
regards to the video the video was sent

871
00:46:09,660 --> 00:46:12,599
to me sometime in February I didn't get

872
00:46:12,599 --> 00:46:13,859
a response so I'm glad that we're

873
00:46:13,859 --> 00:46:15,480
discussing it here because I have

874
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:17,220
another video also I can send it on to

875
00:46:17,220 --> 00:46:20,579
you but I didn't get a response so my

876
00:46:20,579 --> 00:46:22,319
question to follow is uh how the two

877
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,599
agents the two offices can go into each

878
00:46:24,599 --> 00:46:26,040
other you're going out on an inspection

879
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:28,020
as you mentioned you're closing it out

880
00:46:28,020 --> 00:46:29,880
you're taking pictures

881
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,480
everything whatsoever so does your

882
00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:36,480
office access to this information they

883
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:39,180
can rely to someone on that information

884
00:46:39,180 --> 00:46:40,680
to get their

885
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:42,260
sure

886
00:46:42,260 --> 00:46:45,000
yes unfortunately we didn't have a data

887
00:46:45,000 --> 00:46:47,940
collector for close to a year so we're

888
00:46:47,940 --> 00:46:49,680
trying to play catch-up right now on a

889
00:46:49,680 --> 00:46:51,060
lot of things that they've already

890
00:46:51,060 --> 00:46:52,380
closed out

891
00:46:52,380 --> 00:46:54,420
through this process 9 and I did talk

892
00:46:54,420 --> 00:46:57,359
and we we also sat down earlier in the

893
00:46:57,359 --> 00:46:59,040
year with the new code officers in my

894
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,440
office we're hoping to have the data

895
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:03,359
collector go out into the field when

896
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:05,280
they do the final inspections so that

897
00:47:05,280 --> 00:47:07,560
everybody's there at the same time

898
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:09,300
um and that we can work together a

899
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:12,240
little more on that it makes sense for

900
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:14,220
us to do it since they're doing

901
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:16,560
um you know the certificate of occupancy

902
00:47:16,560 --> 00:47:20,520
or a certificate of um completion

903
00:47:20,520 --> 00:47:23,160
um so I'm hoping that we're able to do

904
00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:24,780
that and obviously we only have one

905
00:47:24,780 --> 00:47:27,540
person so it's going to have to be we're

906
00:47:27,540 --> 00:47:29,220
going to have to pick and choose when we

907
00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:31,319
when we're able to do that but we really

908
00:47:31,319 --> 00:47:33,839
you know we want our offices to work a

909
00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:35,460
lot closer together

910
00:47:35,460 --> 00:47:38,280
be able to you know share some things

911
00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:40,940
that we find in the in the city

912
00:47:40,940 --> 00:47:43,940
concerning everything

913
00:47:43,940 --> 00:47:46,800
was closed out they have this organic

914
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:49,319
occupancy why someone else coming from

915
00:47:49,319 --> 00:47:51,420
another department trying to do almost

916
00:47:51,420 --> 00:47:52,859
the same

917
00:47:52,859 --> 00:47:55,200
uh I know it's already the same but

918
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:57,720
trying to get your numbers in when they

919
00:47:57,720 --> 00:47:59,339
already closed up for me to give their

920
00:47:59,339 --> 00:48:01,740
own occupancy they don't collect the

921
00:48:01,740 --> 00:48:03,960
same data that we do

922
00:48:03,960 --> 00:48:06,599
um but our data feeds into their system

923
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:09,240
so if data is not accurate they're not

924
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,700
working with the most accurate stuff too

925
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:15,420
so we collect a different set of data

926
00:48:15,420 --> 00:48:17,520
than they do which is why it's important

927
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,380
for us to be able to get out and like I

928
00:48:19,380 --> 00:48:21,240
said our data is used by other offices

929
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:23,160
in the city Fire Department the police

930
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,140
department yeah I've had several

931
00:48:25,140 --> 00:48:28,920
conversations with Chief Marino about a

932
00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:30,839
property and well they were under the

933
00:48:30,839 --> 00:48:32,220
impression it was this or they went into

934
00:48:32,220 --> 00:48:34,380
a property and there were walls put up

935
00:48:34,380 --> 00:48:36,119
there are legal walls put up in the

936
00:48:36,119 --> 00:48:37,380
property and what they thought the

937
00:48:37,380 --> 00:48:39,420
layout of the property was was not

938
00:48:39,420 --> 00:48:42,900
accurate and so when we're able to go in

939
00:48:42,900 --> 00:48:44,579
and capture that information and take

940
00:48:44,579 --> 00:48:46,740
the photos that we take because

941
00:48:46,740 --> 00:48:48,000
sometimes they're you know I mean

942
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:49,980
depending on again the scope of work

943
00:48:49,980 --> 00:48:51,420
there's different inspections that

944
00:48:51,420 --> 00:48:52,619
they're doing

945
00:48:52,619 --> 00:48:56,339
um and so it's just I I don't really

946
00:48:56,339 --> 00:48:58,859
have an answer for you other than saying

947
00:48:58,859 --> 00:49:01,200
that we just collect different sets of

948
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,000
data and so there's stuff that we

949
00:49:03,000 --> 00:49:04,380
there's some things that were also

950
00:49:04,380 --> 00:49:06,660
required by the state that then we then

951
00:49:06,660 --> 00:49:08,760
have to send that information about so

952
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,500
it's

953
00:49:10,500 --> 00:49:12,599
um you know I like I said we really

954
00:49:12,599 --> 00:49:14,460
would like to try to be able to do that

955
00:49:14,460 --> 00:49:16,140
all at one time

956
00:49:16,140 --> 00:49:17,880
um and we you know we do have access and

957
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:19,380
we do look at their photos and we do

958
00:49:19,380 --> 00:49:21,540
look but sometimes we have questions

959
00:49:21,540 --> 00:49:22,859
um and we really want to make sure again

960
00:49:22,859 --> 00:49:26,180
accuracy of data is just super important

961
00:49:26,180 --> 00:49:28,740
what is the outcome in regards to that

962
00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,140
video of course and deny the entry what

963
00:49:31,140 --> 00:49:33,060
what's your office well we look you know

964
00:49:33,060 --> 00:49:35,160
so for instance there was a permit

965
00:49:35,160 --> 00:49:37,260
pulled for that property back in 2019

966
00:49:37,260 --> 00:49:39,960
and it wasn't closed out so we worked

967
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:40,920
together

968
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,839
um but that's what we're looking to see

969
00:49:42,839 --> 00:49:44,520
was the work completed is the work still

970
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:46,500
going on is there you know is there

971
00:49:46,500 --> 00:49:48,000
something that we need to let them know

972
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:50,280
about because she was on the street

973
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:51,839
because there's another property right

974
00:49:51,839 --> 00:49:54,300
down the street that had a permit as

975
00:49:54,300 --> 00:49:56,819
well and so it's not it's not just

976
00:49:56,819 --> 00:49:58,680
simply like we're picking choosing and

977
00:49:58,680 --> 00:49:59,940
driving down the road there's there's

978
00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:02,400
actual reasons why we're going to look

979
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,140
at property most of the time it's

980
00:50:04,140 --> 00:50:06,060
through permits sometimes it's because

981
00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:08,160
of a sale and we see the property and it

982
00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,800
looks vastly different than it did

983
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,940
um what in our information that we have

984
00:50:14,940 --> 00:50:16,140
so

985
00:50:16,140 --> 00:50:18,480
she really I mean that's it's hard she

986
00:50:18,480 --> 00:50:20,160
was really just doing her job and you

987
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,619
know I mean she was asking she respected

988
00:50:22,619 --> 00:50:24,480
the fact that the person didn't want her

989
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,460
to go inside the property and she

990
00:50:26,460 --> 00:50:36,430
laughed

991
00:50:36,440 --> 00:50:38,640
well I

992
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:40,619
like to sometimes we just we don't have

993
00:50:40,619 --> 00:50:42,480
all the information sometimes it was a

994
00:50:42,480 --> 00:50:45,000
on the permit it was a contractor

995
00:50:45,000 --> 00:50:46,980
sometimes it's a real estate agent who

996
00:50:46,980 --> 00:50:48,240
contacts us because they're in the

997
00:50:48,240 --> 00:50:50,579
process of trying to sell a home so it's

998
00:50:50,579 --> 00:50:52,380
not we don't sometimes we don't know who

999
00:50:52,380 --> 00:50:54,500
we're sending a letter to

1000
00:50:54,500 --> 00:50:57,839
the address but but what I'm saying is

1001
00:50:57,839 --> 00:50:59,460
most the time these are properties that

1002
00:50:59,460 --> 00:51:03,079
are in the process of being sold

1003
00:51:03,079 --> 00:51:05,579
I understand what you're saying I just

1004
00:51:05,579 --> 00:51:07,920
there's there's a lot more to it you

1005
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,119
know I think that I would be happy to have

1006
00:51:12,119 --> 00:51:13,980
more of a conversation with you

1007
00:51:13,980 --> 00:51:15,900
um to explain yeah I will because a lot

1008
00:51:15,900 --> 00:51:17,220
I'm getting a lot of calls so I need to

1009
00:51:17,220 --> 00:51:18,780
get more information so I can pass it on

1010
00:51:18,780 --> 00:51:21,059
so I can well I I appreciate that you've

1011
00:51:21,059 --> 00:51:22,140
been able to work with me in the past

1012
00:51:22,140 --> 00:51:23,700
and you've contacted me I haven't heard

1013
00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:26,520
from you yet about this so well at that

1014
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,200
level I send it directly to the mayor to

1015
00:51:28,200 --> 00:51:29,480
address it um

1016
00:51:29,480 --> 00:51:31,380
we've talked about other things before

1017
00:51:31,380 --> 00:51:33,619
you've come to me so um

1018
00:51:33,619 --> 00:51:36,119
because the complaint I'm receiving is

1019
00:51:36,119 --> 00:51:38,400
that this people are feeling that they

1020
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:40,619
are sick love and I can appreciate that

1021
00:51:40,619 --> 00:51:42,480
but at that level I'm getting those

1022
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:45,059
complaints they're being singled out if

1023
00:51:45,059 --> 00:51:49,270
because they have permanence

1024
00:51:49,280 --> 00:51:51,540
completed and why is somebody else

1025
00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:53,099
really have to do another thing because

1026
00:51:53,099 --> 00:51:55,380
we have a job to do as well yeah you

1027
00:51:55,380 --> 00:51:56,880
know I mean it's again collecting a

1028
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,680
different different set of data you know

1029
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,720
but I would appreciate if you feel free

1030
00:52:00,720 --> 00:52:02,460
to reach out to me I like to have you

1031
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:05,220
know an open Office so that we you know

1032
00:52:05,220 --> 00:52:06,960
I want to have open communication I want

1033
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,119
to be able to explain these things as

1034
00:52:09,119 --> 00:52:11,460
they come up and not you know not when

1035
00:52:11,460 --> 00:52:12,960
it's happening you know months later and

1036
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,900
try to give a good explanation

1037
00:52:14,900 --> 00:52:17,819
so I just you know that's all I ask is

1038
00:52:17,819 --> 00:52:20,040
if there's questions please come to me

1039
00:52:20,040 --> 00:52:25,030
um we try to we try to be open like that

1040
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:27,300
thank you again for being here I

1041
00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:28,859
understand that military departments are

1042
00:52:28,859 --> 00:52:30,599
comprised of different roles and

1043
00:52:30,599 --> 00:52:32,160
responsibilities would you mind just

1044
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,500
speaking to the current uh experience

1045
00:52:34,500 --> 00:52:38,819
level or you can answer what amount of

1046
00:52:38,819 --> 00:52:40,800
time on the job does it take for someone

1047
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,960
to feel comfortable doing this role that

1048
00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:44,819
for each of you is very vital to

1049
00:52:44,819 --> 00:52:48,180
addressing the city that's right

1050
00:52:48,180 --> 00:52:51,420
um there's training for our the people

1051
00:52:51,420 --> 00:52:53,579
in our office unfortunately because it's

1052
00:52:53,579 --> 00:52:56,220
training through the state and the state

1053
00:52:56,220 --> 00:52:57,900
you know I mean they've cut down on a

1054
00:52:57,900 --> 00:52:59,819
lot of their training so they there's

1055
00:52:59,819 --> 00:53:02,160
classes that happen once a year for

1056
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,720
certain you know the data collector

1057
00:53:03,720 --> 00:53:05,400
position is not unique to Schenectady

1058
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,680
it's it's a position that is it's a

1059
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,119
civil service position it's something

1060
00:53:09,119 --> 00:53:11,339
that a lot of offices have

1061
00:53:11,339 --> 00:53:12,900
um there's actually a civil service exam

1062
00:53:12,900 --> 00:53:15,660
for it and so the current person in the

1063
00:53:15,660 --> 00:53:17,460
position is is studying for the exam

1064
00:53:17,460 --> 00:53:19,920
it's going to happen in July or June or

1065
00:53:19,920 --> 00:53:22,319
July I can't remember there's a data

1066
00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:23,760
collection manual that comes from the

1067
00:53:23,760 --> 00:53:26,520
state so there's a lot of reading

1068
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:28,980
there's a lot of going out into the

1069
00:53:28,980 --> 00:53:31,020
field she wasn't just thrown into the

1070
00:53:31,020 --> 00:53:33,900
field we actually she went out with me

1071
00:53:33,900 --> 00:53:36,000
she went out with our appraiser to

1072
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:38,760
understand data collection and the kinds

1073
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,140
of information that we're looking for

1074
00:53:40,140 --> 00:53:41,880
when we go out into the field

1075
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:43,400
time

1076
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:47,040
so for court officers it takes anywhere

1077
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,859
from a year to two years for them to

1078
00:53:49,859 --> 00:53:52,980
fully understand and even that of what

1079
00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:55,440
needs to be done outside in the um for

1080
00:53:55,440 --> 00:53:58,079
in the field for inspections it's six

1081
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:00,240
months training alone just stay before

1082
00:54:00,240 --> 00:54:02,280
we can even let them go on inspections

1083
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:03,839
we're not allowed to have them in any

1084
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:05,339
type of inspections unless they have

1085
00:54:05,339 --> 00:54:07,200
their New York State Certified court

1086
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:08,280
officer training

1087
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:11,940
but it depends on the pace right now we

1088
00:54:11,940 --> 00:54:14,280
have aside from our two supervisors and

1089
00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:17,160
myself we only have two code officers

1090
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:19,260
who's been there for longer than a year

1091
00:54:19,260 --> 00:54:22,380
we just hired uh four or more other four

1092
00:54:22,380 --> 00:54:25,200
officers so we're still we're still very

1093
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,900
short staffed and they're very great so

1094
00:54:27,900 --> 00:54:30,540
these guys are only recently got

1095
00:54:30,540 --> 00:54:32,460
certified so we're in the process of

1096
00:54:32,460 --> 00:54:35,160
training and we'll do the field work and

1097
00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:36,540
the same

1098
00:54:36,540 --> 00:54:39,720
work to the system learn what you have

1099
00:54:39,720 --> 00:54:41,040
to do the process for our office

1100
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,500
policies knowing where to put the

1101
00:54:43,500 --> 00:54:45,900
information for other departments can

1102
00:54:45,900 --> 00:54:48,589
access it

1103
00:54:48,599 --> 00:54:50,280
thank you and then my second question

1104
00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,680
was uh you talk briefly about the board

1105
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:54,240
of Ethics are there any stipulations

1106
00:54:54,240 --> 00:54:56,880
against assessing or inspecting

1107
00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:00,300
properties of family members in the city

1108
00:55:00,300 --> 00:55:03,420
well we try not to have any um

1109
00:55:03,420 --> 00:55:06,240
any people who are related or have any

1110
00:55:06,240 --> 00:55:08,760
kind of relationship with the public to

1111
00:55:08,760 --> 00:55:11,640
inspect on those properties so that's

1112
00:55:11,640 --> 00:55:14,280
why we have multiple inspectors so we

1113
00:55:14,280 --> 00:55:16,460
they do signed a conflict of interest

1114
00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:19,260
document that they cannot inspect those

1115
00:55:19,260 --> 00:55:20,520
activities

1116
00:55:20,520 --> 00:55:24,000
and um for us we usually I mean I know

1117
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:26,040
in the past we've had things like an mou

1118
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:28,140
with another so if there's an assessor

1119
00:55:28,140 --> 00:55:31,619
in a neighboring area if I had to recuse

1120
00:55:31,619 --> 00:55:33,420
myself because of knowing someone or

1121
00:55:33,420 --> 00:55:35,099
knowing something

1122
00:55:35,099 --> 00:55:37,680
um then I would defer to another

1123
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,059
assessor

1124
00:55:39,059 --> 00:55:40,980
um they're all creating families we all

1125
00:55:40,980 --> 00:55:43,200
work so closely in the county

1126
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:44,700
um I mean there have been instances

1127
00:55:44,700 --> 00:55:46,380
where that was the case where we would

1128
00:55:46,380 --> 00:55:47,520
defer to

1129
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,240
um or the um

1130
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:55,849
assessor and allow them to to step in

1131
00:55:55,859 --> 00:55:59,040
um I just wanted to say back to the

1132
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:00,720
conversation with Mr mood River and that

1133
00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:03,480
I think it's really helpful that

1134
00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,640
um you know what if we do get questions

1135
00:56:05,640 --> 00:56:08,220
from the public or or concerns are

1136
00:56:08,220 --> 00:56:12,240
raised being able to respond

1137
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:13,980
um this has been great to have this

1138
00:56:13,980 --> 00:56:15,900
presentation first of all

1139
00:56:15,900 --> 00:56:18,119
um but then secondly I think it is great

1140
00:56:18,119 --> 00:56:19,920
that we can just call you

1141
00:56:19,920 --> 00:56:22,319
um and and you know help us out so now

1142
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:24,180
we know for example with the concern

1143
00:56:24,180 --> 00:56:25,740
that you raised

1144
00:56:25,740 --> 00:56:27,900
um the answer was yeah there's two

1145
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:29,700
different sets of data

1146
00:56:29,700 --> 00:56:31,559
um that that are getting collected so

1147
00:56:31,559 --> 00:56:32,700
that's why there's people from two

1148
00:56:32,700 --> 00:56:34,859
different offices coming up so I think

1149
00:56:34,859 --> 00:56:37,920
that's you know great that we that you

1150
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,760
are so open to us sitting down with you

1151
00:56:40,760 --> 00:56:43,140
and coming into the office and learning

1152
00:56:43,140 --> 00:56:45,599
more thank you and like I said name and

1153
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:48,300
I have talked about really wanting to

1154
00:56:48,300 --> 00:56:50,940
work instead of duplicating our efforts

1155
00:56:50,940 --> 00:56:54,059
but trying to go out together so that we

1156
00:56:54,059 --> 00:56:56,280
do get it's what's one time we get the

1157
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,079
data you know unfortunately just because

1158
00:56:58,079 --> 00:57:00,240
of the timing of positions being open

1159
00:57:00,240 --> 00:57:02,040
and I mean we struggled at one point

1160
00:57:02,040 --> 00:57:03,960
we're in office of five but at one point

1161
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,300
we only have three people yeah and and

1162
00:57:06,300 --> 00:57:08,220
you can't allow everybody to have lunch

1163
00:57:08,220 --> 00:57:10,500
answer phones answer you know questions

1164
00:57:10,500 --> 00:57:12,140
from the public

1165
00:57:12,140 --> 00:57:15,180
and also cover the office so it's you

1166
00:57:15,180 --> 00:57:17,160
know it's been a challenge but you know

1167
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:19,440
I think we have a good staff now we've

1168
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:21,540
got five people in a world we work

1169
00:57:21,540 --> 00:57:23,160
really hard

1170
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:25,440
um so it's you know I mean that's the

1171
00:57:25,440 --> 00:57:30,190
best we can we can possibly do

1172
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:32,819
so if someone denies you access to

1173
00:57:32,819 --> 00:57:35,099
inside of their property at that point

1174
00:57:35,099 --> 00:57:37,079
there's like a registered letter go out

1175
00:57:37,079 --> 00:57:40,319
or does it just nothing ever happens or

1176
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:42,000
um no sometimes there's a valuation

1177
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:43,200
that's done

1178
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:44,880
um you know if we feel that it's

1179
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,099
necessary if we look and we're you know

1180
00:57:47,099 --> 00:57:48,599
we're looking to bring something in

1181
00:57:48,599 --> 00:57:50,579
alignment with we reduce a lot of

1182
00:57:50,579 --> 00:57:52,200
assessed values because of property

1183
00:57:52,200 --> 00:57:53,880
conditions so if somebody will come in

1184
00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:56,339
and vote when a permit gets closed you

1185
00:57:56,339 --> 00:57:58,619
know it's we want to get the most

1186
00:57:58,619 --> 00:58:00,240
accurate data but we have other sources

1187
00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,400
we use MLS the multiple listing service

1188
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,380
that real estate agents and we catch a

1189
00:58:04,380 --> 00:58:06,420
lot of things that way

1190
00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:08,460
um you know and changes in property and

1191
00:58:08,460 --> 00:58:10,200
documenting you know we document those

1192
00:58:10,200 --> 00:58:13,319
we use those photos so when we can't

1193
00:58:13,319 --> 00:58:15,720
it's it's those parts when we can't see

1194
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,300
the property we can't understand what

1195
00:58:18,300 --> 00:58:20,220
the scope of work was that's when we

1196
00:58:20,220 --> 00:58:23,950
generally have to do the inspections

1197
00:58:23,960 --> 00:58:27,720
did that answer a question okay

1198
00:58:27,720 --> 00:58:30,359
first I want to say it's a very big job

1199
00:58:30,359 --> 00:58:32,460
that you're doing and I want to be clear

1200
00:58:32,460 --> 00:58:33,540
and say that we appreciate the work

1201
00:58:33,540 --> 00:58:34,500
you're doing

1202
00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:35,940
um especially you know all the

1203
00:58:35,940 --> 00:58:37,440
adjustments that you have to make in

1204
00:58:37,440 --> 00:58:39,599
order to you know provide the service to

1205
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:40,980
the city so I know you said you were

1206
00:58:40,980 --> 00:58:42,240
nervous but you guys gave a lot of great

1207
00:58:42,240 --> 00:58:45,480
information and and really put things

1208
00:58:45,480 --> 00:58:49,020
into context so uh I I earlier

1209
00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:50,640
conversation and I wrote the kind of on

1210
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:52,500
the tail end of it all my

1211
00:58:52,500 --> 00:58:53,579
it seemed like there might have been

1212
00:58:53,579 --> 00:58:54,599
some

1213
00:58:54,599 --> 00:58:56,280
people feel like they might be singled

1214
00:58:56,280 --> 00:58:57,599
out or there might be some level of

1215
00:58:57,599 --> 00:58:59,700
discrimination happening

1216
00:58:59,700 --> 00:59:03,599
um and I guess my question is is uh you

1217
00:59:03,599 --> 00:59:04,680
know

1218
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,319
how do we know that that's not happening

1219
00:59:07,319 --> 00:59:10,859
and and I say that in the frame it this

1220
00:59:10,859 --> 00:59:12,540
way is that a lot of times when you're

1221
00:59:12,540 --> 00:59:14,579
talking about like systemic inequities

1222
00:59:14,579 --> 00:59:18,000
or systemic uh discrimination it can be

1223
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,040
a matter of the process I mean in that

1224
00:59:20,040 --> 00:59:21,299
institution not necessarily

1225
00:59:21,299 --> 00:59:23,099
interpersonal meeting that no one from

1226
00:59:23,099 --> 00:59:24,480
your team is going out saying hey you

1227
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:26,460
know what I'm just gonna go make sure

1228
00:59:26,460 --> 00:59:29,220
that um we had over enforce this group

1229
00:59:29,220 --> 00:59:30,599
of people or the people living in this

1230
00:59:30,599 --> 00:59:32,760
neighborhood that you know doesn't

1231
00:59:32,760 --> 00:59:35,099
necessarily need to be the case however

1232
00:59:35,099 --> 00:59:38,460
if our way of receiving information or

1233
00:59:38,460 --> 00:59:40,500
part of the process

1234
00:59:40,500 --> 00:59:42,540
um leaves it up to

1235
00:59:42,540 --> 00:59:43,500
um

1236
00:59:43,500 --> 00:59:45,059
there could be a component in that

1237
00:59:45,059 --> 00:59:46,680
process that can perpetuate a certain

1238
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:48,420
outcome so as a woman's like is there

1239
00:59:48,420 --> 00:59:50,220
any like um for a black girl that a term

1240
00:59:50,220 --> 00:59:53,280
like maybe uh Equity audience or best

1241
00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:55,020
practices that happen in other places or

1242
00:59:55,020 --> 00:59:56,640
here to ensure that that's not the

1243
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,260
situation

1244
00:59:58,260 --> 01:00:00,599
um not that I know of but we don't have

1245
01:00:00,599 --> 01:00:03,000
any anything like any system in place

1246
01:00:03,000 --> 01:00:04,920
that would allow for that um doesn't

1247
01:00:04,920 --> 01:00:06,119
mean we couldn't doesn't mean we

1248
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:07,079
couldn't come up with some kind of

1249
01:00:07,079 --> 01:00:09,299
creative solution to do that

1250
01:00:09,299 --> 01:00:12,780
um you know I think we're generally what

1251
01:00:12,780 --> 01:00:15,720
we do is pull a perm a report a permit

1252
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:18,359
report in municity and like I said it

1253
01:00:18,359 --> 01:00:20,040
could be any number of people taking out

1254
01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:21,299
a permit the electrical you know

1255
01:00:21,299 --> 01:00:22,319
whoever's doing your electrical

1256
01:00:22,319 --> 01:00:24,180
whoever's doing your plumbing so we

1257
01:00:24,180 --> 01:00:26,700
don't necessarily know from

1258
01:00:26,700 --> 01:00:28,799
um you know looking at that who owns the

1259
01:00:28,799 --> 01:00:30,660
house or what the it's just the scope of

1260
01:00:30,660 --> 01:00:32,520
work that we're looking at so I don't

1261
01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:35,160
know if there's a way for us to

1262
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:37,140
build into that report something more

1263
01:00:37,140 --> 01:00:38,760
descriptive some more information so

1264
01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:40,799
that we could track you know I mean what

1265
01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,960
properties are we looking at where you

1266
01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:43,640
know

1267
01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,960
unfortunately I think we focus in some

1268
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:47,280
areas where there's more development

1269
01:00:47,280 --> 01:00:49,799
going on in the city so

1270
01:00:49,799 --> 01:00:51,599
I don't you know I don't know how to do

1271
01:00:51,599 --> 01:00:52,980
that I'd love it would be totally open

1272
01:00:52,980 --> 01:00:55,200
for any suggestions any thoughts if you

1273
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,760
wanted to sit down and talk about it

1274
01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,420
sometime yeah I was just do we um like

1275
01:00:59,420 --> 01:01:02,339
again this is I'm not like hey let's

1276
01:01:02,339 --> 01:01:08,210
give you more work in

1277
01:01:08,220 --> 01:01:10,260
tension of the question you know I hope

1278
01:01:10,260 --> 01:01:11,760
you see the indirect spear because it's

1279
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,920
definitely I'm wondering like do we

1280
01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,339
collect demographic information

1281
01:01:17,339 --> 01:01:20,460
um like uh when we were issuing some

1282
01:01:20,460 --> 01:01:22,559
ticket or something like that is that

1283
01:01:22,559 --> 01:01:24,480
something because I know that that type

1284
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:26,339
of information gets you know um

1285
01:01:26,339 --> 01:01:28,740
collected in other places and other like

1286
01:01:28,740 --> 01:01:30,660
enforcement agencies do that and I was

1287
01:01:30,660 --> 01:01:33,059
wondering like is there did we collect

1288
01:01:33,059 --> 01:01:35,520
that I have mountains it's an apartment

1289
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:36,839
it's really it's just like the scope of

1290
01:01:36,839 --> 01:01:38,819
work who's taking the permit out yeah I

1291
01:01:38,819 --> 01:01:42,020
mean like the cost someone's uh you know

1292
01:01:42,020 --> 01:01:45,000
like I know a neighbor of mine was doing

1293
01:01:45,000 --> 01:01:47,280
some work on their house they didn't

1294
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:49,079
know that they needed to have a permit

1295
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:52,200
um uh the guys just happen to be out

1296
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,579
there and said hey you need a perfect

1297
01:01:53,579 --> 01:01:55,520
and at that point they worked with him

1298
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,859
helping get it from him was extremely uh

1299
01:01:58,859 --> 01:02:00,599
friendly and professional and helpful

1300
01:02:00,599 --> 01:02:02,880
with him I guess what I'm saying is that

1301
01:02:02,880 --> 01:02:05,760
in these cases is do

1302
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,880
we collect that demographic information

1303
01:02:07,880 --> 01:02:11,940
and show you yeah we don't I don't know

1304
01:02:11,940 --> 01:02:14,760
no we don't so um we don't collect that

1305
01:02:14,760 --> 01:02:15,900
information

1306
01:02:15,900 --> 01:02:18,960
see that if there's a certain area where

1307
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:32,230
we have more Star Records I guess

1308
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,260
all they do is put their name their

1309
01:02:34,260 --> 01:02:36,480
phone number is however to contact them

1310
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,220
and then um what it is they're looking

1311
01:02:38,220 --> 01:02:41,460
for us to to look at when we go out yeah

1312
01:02:41,460 --> 01:02:42,599
I was just thinking more alongside

1313
01:02:42,599 --> 01:02:44,819
talking about how you know asking the

1314
01:02:44,819 --> 01:02:47,520
right questions to you know because if

1315
01:02:47,520 --> 01:02:50,520
we make you know if these you know our

1316
01:02:50,520 --> 01:02:52,200
statements are that we're trying to be

1317
01:02:52,200 --> 01:02:53,520
Equitable and it seems that we

1318
01:02:53,520 --> 01:02:55,140
definitely are again our convicting the

1319
01:02:55,140 --> 01:02:57,359
job you're doing it's like you know we

1320
01:02:57,359 --> 01:02:59,220
won't know until we know and it's going

1321
01:02:59,220 --> 01:03:00,780
to take a certain amount certain data in

1322
01:03:00,780 --> 01:03:02,220
order for us to really answer that

1323
01:03:02,220 --> 01:03:03,780
question for us to the public so I was

1324
01:03:03,780 --> 01:03:06,119
just yeah it's a really I mean it's a

1325
01:03:06,119 --> 01:03:08,400
good thought I don't know how but again

1326
01:03:08,400 --> 01:03:10,319
it would be happiness a very fair answer

1327
01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:12,660
really but it would be great to I mean I

1328
01:03:12,660 --> 01:03:13,920
think we should always be auditing

1329
01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:15,420
ourselves it doesn't matter what we're

1330
01:03:15,420 --> 01:03:17,160
doing what kind of work we're doing and

1331
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:18,839
we should always be auditing and looking

1332
01:03:18,839 --> 01:03:20,940
at our processes for how to make them

1333
01:03:20,940 --> 01:03:23,819
better and how to make them sorry no Mr

1334
01:03:23,819 --> 01:03:26,339
Colden I think wants to have a make

1335
01:03:26,339 --> 01:03:27,200
appointment

1336
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:30,000
and I'll be brief um I know for code

1337
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:31,380
enforcement sometimes can be very

1338
01:03:31,380 --> 01:03:33,660
difficult to identify who the property

1339
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:35,280
owner is because many times it's a

1340
01:03:35,280 --> 01:03:37,260
tenant who may be letting a code officer

1341
01:03:37,260 --> 01:03:39,900
in to do an inspection the owner may not

1342
01:03:39,900 --> 01:03:42,480
reside in Schenectady or if donor

1343
01:03:42,480 --> 01:03:43,980
resides in Schenectady may not be there

1344
01:03:43,980 --> 01:03:45,540
when a code officer does an inspection

1345
01:03:45,540 --> 01:03:47,579
because the tenant has control over an

1346
01:03:47,579 --> 01:03:49,920
area when code enforcement goes out when

1347
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,420
code enforcement issues a notice of

1348
01:03:51,420 --> 01:03:52,520
violation

1349
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:55,500
they will you know send out the notice

1350
01:03:55,500 --> 01:03:58,200
of violation many times a certified mail

1351
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:00,359
and and first class but they don't

1352
01:04:00,359 --> 01:04:01,920
actually go and physically serve and

1353
01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:03,420
notice the violation so it's hard for

1354
01:04:03,420 --> 01:04:06,599
them to track that information it may be

1355
01:04:06,599 --> 01:04:08,280
that we don't necessarily get that

1356
01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:11,460
information until you know and even then

1357
01:04:11,460 --> 01:04:13,559
we don't get all that information until

1358
01:04:13,559 --> 01:04:15,119
tickets are issued and somebody actually

1359
01:04:15,119 --> 01:04:16,799
comes to court

1360
01:04:16,799 --> 01:04:18,780
um for you know the owner of the

1361
01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:21,480
property so it can be really difficult

1362
01:04:21,480 --> 01:04:24,359
based on the the inter the Limited at

1363
01:04:24,359 --> 01:04:26,160
times interactions that coach Sportsman

1364
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:28,559
may actually have with the owner

1365
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:31,200
I guess is there a better is there

1366
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:34,680
another way to capture that information

1367
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:35,579
um

1368
01:04:35,579 --> 01:04:37,680
that maybe attach that to one of the

1369
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:40,200
processes that that we have in place to

1370
01:04:40,200 --> 01:04:41,339
maybe collect that demographic

1371
01:04:41,339 --> 01:04:44,099
information so therefore if something is

1372
01:04:44,099 --> 01:04:45,780
if there is an issue or something like

1373
01:04:45,780 --> 01:04:48,780
that we don't have to then you know kind

1374
01:04:48,780 --> 01:04:49,980
of work backwards to find that

1375
01:04:49,980 --> 01:04:51,839
information now we can kind of look at

1376
01:04:51,839 --> 01:04:53,760
maybe what's existing in our um a city

1377
01:04:53,760 --> 01:04:55,680
database to say and then we can run our

1378
01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:56,760
own numbers and kind of have that

1379
01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,890
accountability to check for ourselves

1380
01:04:58,890 --> 01:05:00,680
[Music]

1381
01:05:00,680 --> 01:05:03,079
go ahead

1382
01:05:03,079 --> 01:05:05,640
correct me if I'm wrong but this is

1383
01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,540
basically a blind process

1384
01:05:08,540 --> 01:05:11,160
and it's about as Equitable as it can

1385
01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,960
get because you don't know who's doing

1386
01:05:12,960 --> 01:05:15,900
it so if you start getting that

1387
01:05:15,900 --> 01:05:18,119
information that's where more problems

1388
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:19,640
could arise

1389
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:23,520
by targets that we don't want to have

1390
01:05:23,520 --> 01:05:26,040
so by having a blind process of just

1391
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:28,619
pulling the permits and we don't know

1392
01:05:28,619 --> 01:05:30,000
who it is

1393
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:33,000
then that you in essence have a very

1394
01:05:33,000 --> 01:05:34,859
Equitable process

1395
01:05:34,859 --> 01:05:37,789
or

1396
01:05:37,799 --> 01:05:39,420
that's what I was about I was going to

1397
01:05:39,420 --> 01:05:40,740
say exactly the same thing that it's

1398
01:05:40,740 --> 01:05:41,400
almost

1399
01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,280
a verse because if we started adding in

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01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:46,559
the demographic if we started trying to

1401
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:48,599
have demographic data then you open the

1402
01:05:48,599 --> 01:05:51,000
door to somebody knocking on our current

1403
01:05:51,000 --> 01:05:53,220
staff but then you could have some

1404
01:05:53,220 --> 01:05:55,140
discrimination that might happen if

1405
01:05:55,140 --> 01:05:58,319
people saw who you know what I'm saying

1406
01:05:58,319 --> 01:06:00,599
so I'm just right there that

1407
01:06:00,599 --> 01:06:03,260
um I was going to say the same thing

1408
01:06:03,260 --> 01:06:06,420
so to my my point was that

1409
01:06:06,420 --> 01:06:07,020
um

1410
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:10,200
certain demographic uh information is

1411
01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:14,119
backed up with people on a wide range of

1412
01:06:14,119 --> 01:06:17,880
even uh

1413
01:06:17,880 --> 01:06:20,579
even if you're registering for

1414
01:06:20,579 --> 01:06:22,619
um registering on your kid for school or

1415
01:06:22,619 --> 01:06:27,000
something like that you know there's a place where you can get that

1416
01:06:27,000 --> 01:06:30,119
information on voluntarily you can um

1417
01:06:30,119 --> 01:06:33,059
you know self-identify in that space and

1418
01:06:33,059 --> 01:06:35,640
I'm just saying that if again if you're

1419
01:06:35,640 --> 01:06:36,839
talking about systems it's not always

1420
01:06:36,839 --> 01:06:38,760
about that interpersonal piece so it

1421
01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:41,280
doesn't take a person to say hey you

1422
01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,740
know what let me go pick on this group

1423
01:06:43,740 --> 01:06:46,680
of people however if you don't have any

1424
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:48,720
guard rails against that and you're not

1425
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:49,799
intentional you don't have the

1426
01:06:49,799 --> 01:06:51,900
information then you really don't know

1427
01:06:51,900 --> 01:06:54,299
if we're disproportionately issuing

1428
01:06:54,299 --> 01:06:55,680
um

1429
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:58,380
tickets to people of a certain subgroup

1430
01:06:58,380 --> 01:07:00,599
if we don't have that information so the

1431
01:07:00,599 --> 01:07:02,299
same reason like how we learned about

1432
01:07:02,299 --> 01:07:04,740
Redline being an issue was because he

1433
01:07:04,740 --> 01:07:06,660
was able to capture demographic

1434
01:07:06,660 --> 01:07:09,059
information of homeowners in what areas

1435
01:07:09,059 --> 01:07:12,180
that they lived in that's what

1436
01:07:12,180 --> 01:07:14,520
gave us the proof to say oh Redline is

1437
01:07:14,520 --> 01:07:16,079
an issue and now here's the data test

1438
01:07:16,079 --> 01:07:18,599
supporter so I would say asking the

1439
01:07:18,599 --> 01:07:20,099
right questions is always a step in the

1440
01:07:20,099 --> 01:07:21,780
right direction and I definitely trust

1441
01:07:21,780 --> 01:07:23,640
Integrity of the team that's in process

1442
01:07:23,640 --> 01:07:25,380
but I think we need to continue to ask

1443
01:07:25,380 --> 01:07:28,140
those questions and if we're doing good

1444
01:07:28,140 --> 01:07:30,720
and we should not be afraid or better

1445
01:07:30,720 --> 01:07:33,000
so I think well for me the information

1446
01:07:33,000 --> 01:07:34,920
that we're capturing has to do with the

1447
01:07:34,920 --> 01:07:36,839
property so we would have to have a very

1448
01:07:36,839 --> 01:07:38,940
good reason to ask people that question

1449
01:07:38,940 --> 01:07:42,180
and people I know people go to different

1450
01:07:42,180 --> 01:07:43,920
agencies and like don't want to even

1451
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:46,200
answer at the agencies that they have to

1452
01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:49,680
report the data so I I don't um I don't

1453
01:07:49,680 --> 01:07:52,140
know I don't feel it's wise for us to go

1454
01:07:52,140 --> 01:07:53,160
down the road where we're starting to

1455
01:07:53,160 --> 01:07:55,140
ask those kind of questions there needs

1456
01:07:55,140 --> 01:07:56,700
to be where you at people don't want to

1457
01:07:56,700 --> 01:07:59,280
answer I mean and then sometimes when

1458
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:00,539
you go to your doctor's office and they

1459
01:08:00,539 --> 01:08:02,460
ask you that and and sometimes the

1460
01:08:02,460 --> 01:08:03,839
doctor's office decides for themselves

1461
01:08:03,839 --> 01:08:06,960
if you don't answer so I don't if if our

1462
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:09,180
goal is to Simply the data that we're

1463
01:08:09,180 --> 01:08:10,559
using to make sure the property is up to

1464
01:08:10,559 --> 01:08:12,299
code Etc

1465
01:08:12,299 --> 01:08:14,579
um I'm not sure how what capturing the

1466
01:08:14,579 --> 01:08:17,100
other data would provide for our goal

1467
01:08:17,100 --> 01:08:19,440
and we have to be clear about that when

1468
01:08:19,440 --> 01:08:21,420
we do that certainly

1469
01:08:21,420 --> 01:08:22,859
um the goal I'm speaking of is

1470
01:08:22,859 --> 01:08:25,140
specifically is that we're talking about

1471
01:08:25,140 --> 01:08:26,640
the feeling that people feel that they

1472
01:08:26,640 --> 01:08:28,020
might be being singled out and there

1473
01:08:28,020 --> 01:08:29,520
might be some level of discrimination in

1474
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:31,319
the process that's what was raised

1475
01:08:31,319 --> 01:08:32,880
earlier so what I'm saying is that the

1476
01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:34,199
same way

1477
01:08:34,199 --> 01:08:35,759
um larger institutions that we all

1478
01:08:35,759 --> 01:08:36,960
engage with

1479
01:08:36,960 --> 01:08:39,660
um Acts and try to collect that data

1480
01:08:39,660 --> 01:08:40,859
from us

1481
01:08:40,859 --> 01:08:42,600
um I'm saying that if we have that data

1482
01:08:42,600 --> 01:08:44,880
then we'll know instead of just saying

1483
01:08:44,880 --> 01:08:49,799
like hey you know what this is you know we're definitely not you know

1484
01:08:49,799 --> 01:08:51,839
discriminating against anyone for any

1485
01:08:51,839 --> 01:08:54,060
reason and I don't have any reason to

1486
01:08:54,060 --> 01:08:55,679
say that we are I will reiterate that

1487
01:08:55,679 --> 01:08:58,020
again but again it's not always about

1488
01:08:58,020 --> 01:08:59,940
it's personal as it is sometimes

1489
01:08:59,940 --> 01:09:02,100
institutional so it's there a practice

1490
01:09:02,100 --> 01:09:05,339
where um is there a better practice that

1491
01:09:05,339 --> 01:09:07,140
we could involve and I think that it

1492
01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:08,400
could one of those things could be

1493
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:09,779
collecting that there that's what I'm

1494
01:09:09,779 --> 01:09:11,339
saying I'm hoping maybe all these people

1495
01:09:11,339 --> 01:09:12,900
that were issuing

1496
01:09:12,900 --> 01:09:14,940
um tickets to if we're trying to work

1497
01:09:14,940 --> 01:09:16,739
together or two offices and then we

1498
01:09:16,739 --> 01:09:18,839
don't have to do separate inspections

1499
01:09:18,839 --> 01:09:20,279
I'm you know I mean I'd like to think

1500
01:09:20,279 --> 01:09:22,679
that that will help alleviate some of it

1501
01:09:22,679 --> 01:09:23,699
I'm not saying it's going to go away

1502
01:09:23,699 --> 01:09:26,160
completely I mean it's a it's a valid

1503
01:09:26,160 --> 01:09:28,020
point and you know it's a concern

1504
01:09:28,020 --> 01:09:30,719
certainly is in a city that is widely

1505
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:32,219
represented by a lot of different kinds

1506
01:09:32,219 --> 01:09:33,420
of people

1507
01:09:33,420 --> 01:09:36,239
um you know I don't but I don't I don't

1508
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:37,679
have anything that's you know I mean

1509
01:09:37,679 --> 01:09:40,259
that's kind of what it is so but I

1510
01:09:40,259 --> 01:09:43,319
totally up for exploring yeah I'm just

1511
01:09:43,319 --> 01:09:44,759
trying to think of ways that you can

1512
01:09:44,759 --> 01:09:46,279
actually

1513
01:09:46,279 --> 01:09:48,540
demonstrate that through our data system

1514
01:09:48,540 --> 01:09:50,520
and if there's other ways but outside of

1515
01:09:50,520 --> 01:09:52,140
that I'm almost in as well but I just

1516
01:09:52,140 --> 01:09:53,640
think it's an important question to be

1517
01:09:53,640 --> 01:09:55,620
able to answer with some level search I

1518
01:09:55,620 --> 01:09:57,960
mean one way I can say that the building

1519
01:09:57,960 --> 01:09:59,940
department is not singling out or

1520
01:09:59,940 --> 01:10:01,800
targeting people is that we do have

1521
01:10:01,800 --> 01:10:03,840
officers assigned to different districts

1522
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:08,340
and that gets rotated and the complaints

1523
01:10:08,340 --> 01:10:10,199
that come in on the phone are on like

1524
01:10:10,199 --> 01:10:12,300
for just a quick fix they're also

1525
01:10:12,300 --> 01:10:15,000
assigned by the admins so the admins

1526
01:10:15,000 --> 01:10:16,980
don't know who's putting these uh

1527
01:10:16,980 --> 01:10:19,199
complaints in and they don't know who

1528
01:10:19,199 --> 01:10:20,520
they're just assigning it to an

1529
01:10:20,520 --> 01:10:23,760
available office so multiple officers

1530
01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:25,380
can be dealing with the same property

1531
01:10:25,380 --> 01:10:28,739
over within that year so if the the

1532
01:10:28,739 --> 01:10:30,540
equality is there or people are not

1533
01:10:30,540 --> 01:10:31,860
saying they're seeing love because it's

1534
01:10:31,860 --> 01:10:33,540
they're constantly dealing with

1535
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:38,520
different inspectors and if people are saying they're being

1536
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:40,380
targeted I advise anybody just come to

1537
01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:42,060
me if my inspector is giving me a hard

1538
01:10:42,060 --> 01:10:43,940
time first if you feel like they're

1539
01:10:43,940 --> 01:10:46,739
profiling just let let us know because

1540
01:10:46,739 --> 01:10:49,080
we can't solve a problem if we don't

1541
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:52,080
know there's a problem so that's one way

1542
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:54,060
I find that

1543
01:10:54,060 --> 01:10:57,179
to help with equality is just have

1544
01:10:57,179 --> 01:10:59,280
different inspectors in different areas

1545
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:02,280
you you constantly rotate them that way

1546
01:11:02,280 --> 01:11:04,940
you you know

1547
01:11:04,940 --> 01:11:07,440
that's a that's a practice that you're

1548
01:11:07,440 --> 01:11:10,750
sure that you know

1549
01:11:10,760 --> 01:11:12,420
thank you

1550
01:11:12,420 --> 01:11:15,380
unfortunately one person

1551
01:11:15,380 --> 01:11:19,130
a little bit more of a challenge

1552
01:11:19,140 --> 01:11:21,300
Mary wins presentation there's something

1553
01:11:21,300 --> 01:11:23,820
where you want to add to this

1554
01:11:23,820 --> 01:11:26,219
the only thing I'd like to talk about

1555
01:11:26,219 --> 01:11:30,239
but uh to emphasize it because we want

1556
01:11:30,239 --> 01:11:33,239
people to get people building threats

1557
01:11:33,239 --> 01:11:35,219
this is one thing to go to cover because

1558
01:11:35,219 --> 01:11:38,280
this thing talked about Banks now when

1559
01:11:38,280 --> 01:11:39,659
you're selling property when you're

1560
01:11:39,659 --> 01:11:41,699
looking to finance I think a good home

1561
01:11:41,699 --> 01:11:45,239
equity loans they will ask have you got

1562
01:11:45,239 --> 01:11:47,400
a building permit for this work that is

1563
01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,460
done is it there and if you don't have

1564
01:11:50,460 --> 01:11:53,820
it it creates problems down the road and

1565
01:11:53,820 --> 01:11:56,460
that what Ramada talked about

1566
01:11:56,460 --> 01:11:59,219
getting the building permit doing the

1567
01:11:59,219 --> 01:12:00,120
work

1568
01:12:00,120 --> 01:12:02,400
generally is not going to increase the

1569
01:12:02,400 --> 01:12:04,140
value of your house

1570
01:12:04,140 --> 01:12:06,060
most of the items that are done come

1571
01:12:06,060 --> 01:12:08,280
under the maintenance category so people

1572
01:12:08,280 --> 01:12:10,980
are fixing things up they're making them

1573
01:12:10,980 --> 01:12:13,980
compliant to what today's standards were

1574
01:12:13,980 --> 01:12:16,560
or less time something was done may have

1575
01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:20,280
been 20 years ago or 30 years ago and I

1576
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,500
want people to see the city staff as

1577
01:12:22,500 --> 01:12:24,179
partners when they're going through this

1578
01:12:24,179 --> 01:12:27,000
to work with people and make them feel

1579
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,980
comfortable in terms of their investment

1580
01:12:28,980 --> 01:12:31,199
that's happening in the city

1581
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:36,000
and I mean it's it's a challenging job the last thing we

1582
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:37,620
want to do is have an adversarial

1583
01:12:37,620 --> 01:12:39,060
relationship with property owners

1584
01:12:39,060 --> 01:12:41,040
because we're not able to then get the

1585
01:12:41,040 --> 01:12:42,480
information we need to do our jobs

1586
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,840
effectively and you know all of this was

1587
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:48,239
it goes towards the bottom line it gives

1588
01:12:48,239 --> 01:12:50,100
us the opportunity to do more programs

1589
01:12:50,100 --> 01:12:52,140
and spend more and you know find better

1590
01:12:52,140 --> 01:12:54,659
things to do in the city I mean it's

1591
01:12:54,659 --> 01:12:56,520
just it's it's a challenge for everybody

1592
01:12:56,520 --> 01:12:58,500
we don't like it any more than Property

1593
01:12:58,500 --> 01:13:01,260
Owners do so it's just I mean I guess

1594
01:13:01,260 --> 01:13:03,480
kind of in closing

1595
01:13:03,480 --> 01:13:05,820
but again we're always looking to audit

1596
01:13:05,820 --> 01:13:07,920
ourselves do whatever we can to do a

1597
01:13:07,920 --> 01:13:10,500
better job particularly for the property

1598
01:13:10,500 --> 01:13:12,719
owners in the city and I would I would

1599
01:13:12,719 --> 01:13:14,100
say that that that's the reason why

1600
01:13:14,100 --> 01:13:15,360
you're doing such a good job now is

1601
01:13:15,360 --> 01:13:16,860
because you take those reflection points

1602
01:13:16,860 --> 01:13:19,679
seriously so thank you for that

1603
01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:21,719
thank you both for a really great

1604
01:13:21,719 --> 01:13:23,219
presentation and answering all the

1605
01:13:23,219 --> 01:13:24,540
questions desire you appreciate your

1606
01:13:24,540 --> 01:13:26,520
time thank you all right have a good

1607
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,649
evening

1608
01:13:29,659 --> 01:13:37,130
thank you

1609
01:13:37,140 --> 01:13:38,520
I'd like to call to order City

1610
01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:40,320
development and planning we have six

1611
01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:42,900
items on the agenda

1612
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:45,000
the first item is a reminder of the

1613
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:47,159
presentation resolution we recognize

1614
01:13:47,159 --> 01:13:50,520
Santa David's Mr palomini

1615
01:13:50,520 --> 01:13:52,260
I think you're out of town they'll be in

1616
01:13:52,260 --> 01:13:56,340
town the presentation okay so on the

1617
01:13:56,340 --> 01:13:58,199
10th we'll have that presentation uh

1618
01:13:58,199 --> 01:13:59,880
item number two is to authorize the

1619
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,620
mayor to enter in supplemental agreement

1620
01:14:01,620 --> 01:14:03,120
number three the New York State

1621
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,159
Department of Transportation for the

1622
01:14:05,159 --> 01:14:08,100
replacement Kings Road Bridge over CSX

1623
01:14:08,100 --> 01:14:13,010
Amtrak Mr Obama

1624
01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:15,960
hello uh this agreement is a

1625
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:17,219
supplemental agreement similar to the

1626
01:14:17,219 --> 01:14:18,659
one that we did two weeks ago for a

1627
01:14:18,659 --> 01:14:20,219
different project the supplemental

1628
01:14:20,219 --> 01:14:23,699
agreement authorizes an additional 120

1629
01:14:23,699 --> 01:14:25,679
thousand dollars for right away

1630
01:14:25,679 --> 01:14:27,360
acquisition related to the Kingsburg

1631
01:14:27,360 --> 01:14:36,070
Bridge as Royal as detailed design

1632
01:14:36,080 --> 01:14:40,750
second all those in favor

1633
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:43,400
of public hearing for the redirection

1634
01:14:43,400 --> 01:14:46,080
I'm a two-way to a one-way

1635
01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:47,360
foreign

1636
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,040
as many of you will probably aware of

1637
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,260
the city in cooperation with Schenectady

1638
01:14:52,260 --> 01:14:54,239
County the CDTA and the Metro tax

1639
01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:56,520
Development Authority is redeveloping

1640
01:14:56,520 --> 01:14:59,280
the corner of South Church Street and

1641
01:14:59,280 --> 01:15:01,679
State Street which used to be a former

1642
01:15:01,679 --> 01:15:04,560
Trailways bus station into a CDTA

1643
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:07,080
Mobility Hub it's the first Mobility Hub

1644
01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:10,920
in the region it will be essentially a

1645
01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:14,100
larger bus stop however we'll have

1646
01:15:14,100 --> 01:15:15,800
heated sidewalks

1647
01:15:15,800 --> 01:15:18,600
a bathroom for CDTA employee because

1648
01:15:18,600 --> 01:15:20,340
this is one of their layover stations

1649
01:15:20,340 --> 01:15:22,739
and it will be a hub of where they're

1650
01:15:22,739 --> 01:15:24,840
going to unveil things such as ride

1651
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:27,120
share their bike programs scooters if

1652
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:29,100
they uh they decide to move forward that

1653
01:15:29,100 --> 01:15:31,380
and they're calling it a Mobility pup

1654
01:15:31,380 --> 01:15:32,699
they're moving away from buildings

1655
01:15:32,699 --> 01:15:34,260
because those just have a lot of

1656
01:15:34,260 --> 01:15:35,400
overhead and they're moving towards

1657
01:15:35,400 --> 01:15:38,040
these more smaller flexible hubs one of

1658
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:39,840
the things that it is going to require

1659
01:15:39,840 --> 01:15:42,780
though is that the buses are now going

1660
01:15:42,780 --> 01:15:43,980
to not only be on State Street you're

1661
01:15:43,980 --> 01:15:45,420
going to be on South Church Street in a

1662
01:15:45,420 --> 01:15:49,679
pull-off area and the bus cannot go on

1663
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:52,920
to Erie Boulevard and then use the

1664
01:15:52,920 --> 01:15:55,500
essentially The Jug Handle the buses

1665
01:15:55,500 --> 01:15:57,960
can't use those it's uh it's just part

1666
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,340
of their operations that they're not

1667
01:15:59,340 --> 01:16:01,199
allowed to they want to use Fuller

1668
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:02,699
Street so that they can get to the

1669
01:16:02,699 --> 01:16:06,060
signal and get up back to State Street

1670
01:16:06,060 --> 01:16:07,980
um analysis of Forestry showed that it

1671
01:16:07,980 --> 01:16:10,679
is very narrow being two-way with the

1672
01:16:10,679 --> 01:16:12,239
parking on it

1673
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:13,980
um so they're proposing to make it one

1674
01:16:13,980 --> 01:16:16,560
way from South perch to South Ferry so

1675
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:18,960
that the buses can utilize it

1676
01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,000
um the properties on that street have

1677
01:16:21,000 --> 01:16:23,480
essentially been purchased by the county

1678
01:16:23,480 --> 01:16:26,580
the only remaining property owner is uh

1679
01:16:26,580 --> 01:16:28,679
Ray O'Hare who many of us know and he's

1680
01:16:28,679 --> 01:16:30,480
working with them as well so there

1681
01:16:30,480 --> 01:16:32,520
really is really no impact to properties

1682
01:16:32,520 --> 01:16:36,360
on that street and there is ample off

1683
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,219
street parking due to those surface lots

1684
01:16:38,219 --> 01:16:41,159
that are around so I like to call for a

1685
01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:43,980
public hearing to change this from a

1686
01:16:43,980 --> 01:16:47,100
two-way street to a one-way Street any

1687
01:16:47,100 --> 01:16:57,370
questions

1688
01:16:57,380 --> 01:17:00,060
so this is uh the next two or something

1689
01:17:00,060 --> 01:17:03,239
I've been working on with Maurice as you

1690
01:17:03,239 --> 01:17:03,900
know

1691
01:17:03,900 --> 01:17:04,920
I'm going to move a lot of property

1692
01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:08,940
owners and uh Land Development and swaps

1693
01:17:08,940 --> 01:17:12,000
for properties that are the city May own

1694
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:15,420
that are derelict or unused and this is

1695
01:17:15,420 --> 01:17:17,040
one if you want to just talk about this

1696
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:19,800
one real quick in your relationship

1697
01:17:19,800 --> 01:17:22,199
so the um currently there's a paper

1698
01:17:22,199 --> 01:17:24,120
street that is underdeveloped that's

1699
01:17:24,120 --> 01:17:26,480
undeveloped that the city currently owns

1700
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:29,580
and the adjacent neighbor who currently

1701
01:17:29,580 --> 01:17:31,739
has their entrance to their property

1702
01:17:31,739 --> 01:17:33,780
facing that paper street is interested

1703
01:17:33,780 --> 01:17:35,880
in purchasing that it has been

1704
01:17:35,880 --> 01:17:38,159
undeveloped for a number of years and

1705
01:17:38,159 --> 01:17:40,080
apparently they have been interested in

1706
01:17:40,080 --> 01:17:43,500
it for several years as well the other

1707
01:17:43,500 --> 01:17:46,560
neighbor who owns a landlocked parcel if

1708
01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,780
that words would have been developed is

1709
01:17:48,780 --> 01:17:50,880
also interested in purchasing a portion

1710
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,820
of that same lot before they if we were

1711
01:17:53,820 --> 01:17:57,540
to abandon it and create it as a lot

1712
01:17:57,540 --> 01:18:00,719
so this is near Lark Street in Bellevue

1713
01:18:00,719 --> 01:18:03,780
no no this is Amelia Street yes it says

1714
01:18:03,780 --> 01:18:08,340
yeah that's located on the yeah um it's

1715
01:18:08,340 --> 01:18:10,679
right by a congressville area or

1716
01:18:10,679 --> 01:18:14,219
Cheltenham landfill almost a border of

1717
01:18:14,219 --> 01:18:16,199
Rotterdam is literally uh like 50 feet

1718
01:18:16,199 --> 01:18:18,360
away Yes actually the second property

1719
01:18:18,360 --> 01:18:20,159
owner his house is technically in

1720
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:22,800
Rotterdam and then the backyard of this

1721
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:24,420
property is

1722
01:18:24,420 --> 01:18:27,360
um the one that is adjacent to all right

1723
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:28,800
so it isn't done you just want to be

1724
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:46,090
clear

1725
01:18:46,100 --> 01:18:49,199
was another uh small much smaller dead

1726
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:51,300
end uh I would not call it a paper

1727
01:18:51,300 --> 01:18:53,880
street it's an abandoned Street uh it

1728
01:18:53,880 --> 01:18:56,280
served an area where there was a garage

1729
01:18:56,280 --> 01:18:59,460
however as it was paved as a road it

1730
01:18:59,460 --> 01:19:02,219
became a number one Dumping Ground in

1731
01:19:02,219 --> 01:19:03,900
the city of Schenectady for over a

1732
01:19:03,900 --> 01:19:06,600
decade we did put concrete barriers to

1733
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:08,460
prevent The Dumping however it did

1734
01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:10,520
continue with bags and things like that

1735
01:19:10,520 --> 01:19:13,440
new property owners have moved into the

1736
01:19:13,440 --> 01:19:15,659
parcel directly adjacent to our church

1737
01:19:15,659 --> 01:19:18,600
with Maurice worked with them on it they

1738
01:19:18,600 --> 01:19:21,179
requested that the parcel has just

1739
01:19:21,179 --> 01:19:23,040
become a huge nuisance because the

1740
01:19:23,040 --> 01:19:25,320
dumping had continued and they requested

1741
01:19:25,320 --> 01:19:27,540
that they purchased the parcel because

1742
01:19:27,540 --> 01:19:29,820
it really only served the garage that

1743
01:19:29,820 --> 01:19:32,400
was on the parcel that they purchased as

1744
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:36,000
the parcel was between two different you

1745
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,679
know to be fair and Equitable we asked

1746
01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:39,719
both Property Owners I believe the

1747
01:19:39,719 --> 01:19:41,280
property was just purchased On The Other

1748
01:19:41,280 --> 01:19:43,620
Side by a lieutenant a new homeowner

1749
01:19:43,620 --> 01:19:46,020
under older right well yeah so the uh

1750
01:19:46,020 --> 01:19:48,360
the new owner that has the property on

1751
01:19:48,360 --> 01:19:49,980
the other side of the street

1752
01:19:49,980 --> 01:19:52,800
um his property is good is rental units

1753
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:55,860
and he would like additional uh parking

1754
01:19:55,860 --> 01:19:58,260
to be able to be used for those units as

1755
01:19:58,260 --> 01:20:00,960
well which would bring them uh into

1756
01:20:00,960 --> 01:20:04,440
compliance actually so we're looking on

1757
01:20:04,440 --> 01:20:06,480
this part so we take the take the street

1758
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:09,120
abandon it essentially cut it in half

1759
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,800
merge it with the two surrounding

1760
01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,960
partials so that they can now you know

1761
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,760
maintain and use it it would be awesome

1762
01:20:14,760 --> 01:20:16,320
it would take probably the up and

1763
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:18,060
go away they'd each have their own and

1764
01:20:18,060 --> 01:20:19,920
then we wouldn't have the issue that

1765
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,750
we're seeing

1766
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:26,219
as a reminder this uh I I spoke about

1767
01:20:26,219 --> 01:20:27,360
this briefly at one of the committee

1768
01:20:27,360 --> 01:20:31,320
meetings where the two property owners

1769
01:20:31,320 --> 01:20:34,800
are agreeing to pay for everything the

1770
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,080
survey they're going to pay to record

1771
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:39,540
the Deeds the idea behind it was once

1772
01:20:39,540 --> 01:20:41,520
everything was settled in terms of

1773
01:20:41,520 --> 01:20:44,280
creating abandoning the parcel and then

1774
01:20:44,280 --> 01:20:45,500
creating

1775
01:20:45,500 --> 01:20:50,520
two tax map identified Parcels they

1776
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,340
would pay to record everything the city

1777
01:20:53,340 --> 01:20:56,580
would agree to transfer the property to

1778
01:20:56,580 --> 01:21:15,450
them at a minimal cost

1779
01:21:15,460 --> 01:21:17,659
[Music]

1780
01:21:17,659 --> 01:21:21,719
uh so several weeks ago we put out a our

1781
01:21:21,719 --> 01:21:23,520
annual bid for crack ceiling of city

1782
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:24,540
streets

1783
01:21:24,540 --> 01:21:27,120
um we put it out for 9 000 gallons of

1784
01:21:27,120 --> 01:21:29,520
crack seal we picked a tentative list of

1785
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:30,960
the streets that we think we're always

1786
01:21:30,960 --> 01:21:32,460
looking to crack seal roads that have

1787
01:21:32,460 --> 01:21:34,739
been paved within a four-year window as

1788
01:21:34,739 --> 01:21:37,380
there is a balance between crack ceiling

1789
01:21:37,380 --> 01:21:39,179
and you know just going you're not going

1790
01:21:39,179 --> 01:21:41,100
to crack seal the street that's kind of

1791
01:21:41,100 --> 01:21:42,540
too far gone

1792
01:21:42,540 --> 01:21:44,940
um we got three bids uh all from the

1793
01:21:44,940 --> 01:21:46,199
same three bidders that we typically

1794
01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:47,520
have these are the companies that really

1795
01:21:47,520 --> 01:21:50,420
specialize in this uh the low bid was

1796
01:21:50,420 --> 01:21:53,100
Sealcoat USA they were the low bid last

1797
01:21:53,100 --> 01:21:55,440
year we are comfortable working with

1798
01:21:55,440 --> 01:21:58,020
them they're extremely flexible in how

1799
01:21:58,020 --> 01:22:01,500
they do things if they use less on the

1800
01:22:01,500 --> 01:22:03,659
streets then we can add streets or we

1801
01:22:03,659 --> 01:22:05,820
can decide not to we did that last year

1802
01:22:05,820 --> 01:22:07,020
and last year we actually ended up

1803
01:22:07,020 --> 01:22:08,820
adding a couple of more streets because

1804
01:22:08,820 --> 01:22:10,980
we had some time in some budget capacity

1805
01:22:10,980 --> 01:22:13,560
left crack seal is the first line of

1806
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:16,860
defense in preserving our roads so I

1807
01:22:16,860 --> 01:22:18,960
believe in my letter I talked to council

1808
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:20,580
president porfield about the city the

1809
01:22:20,580 --> 01:22:23,159
city does have a crack slim Chief

1810
01:22:23,159 --> 01:22:25,560
however you know as we all know the

1811
01:22:25,560 --> 01:22:27,960
between potholes and daily pests and

1812
01:22:27,960 --> 01:22:30,179
labor shortages and things like that we

1813
01:22:30,179 --> 01:22:31,860
just weren't getting the production and

1814
01:22:31,860 --> 01:22:34,560
house as we needed so we started

1815
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,780
Contracting it as we're really starting

1816
01:22:36,780 --> 01:22:38,760
to do you know 10 miles of crack ceiling

1817
01:22:38,760 --> 01:22:40,080
a year which is really what you need to

1818
01:22:40,080 --> 01:22:41,760
do when you have a city this size of

1819
01:22:41,760 --> 01:22:43,560
ours

1820
01:22:43,560 --> 01:22:45,420
and you said you had them both I don't

1821
01:22:45,420 --> 01:22:47,159
stay here looks to the streets yeah I do

1822
01:22:47,159 --> 01:22:48,480
have a list I didn't include it I

1823
01:22:48,480 --> 01:22:50,179
apologize

1824
01:22:50,179 --> 01:22:53,280
so if other people want to know if you

1825
01:22:53,280 --> 01:22:54,659
know where this is going to happen we

1826
01:22:54,659 --> 01:22:55,739
could get a

1827
01:22:55,739 --> 01:22:58,020
um on those streets

1828
01:22:58,020 --> 01:23:00,659
any other questions I'll move it second

1829
01:23:00,659 --> 01:23:13,810
all in favor um anything else

1830
01:23:13,820 --> 01:23:16,980
is inclusion of the new card fees and

1831
01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:19,260
rates of the Schenectady Municipal Golf

1832
01:23:19,260 --> 01:23:22,080
Course that's the wallet so as you

1833
01:23:22,080 --> 01:23:23,880
recall uh several weeks ago I was here

1834
01:23:23,880 --> 01:23:26,400
to talk about the change of car cart

1835
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,080
fees as we were having to complete we

1836
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,120
also increased uh the driving range

1837
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,640
large bucket uh while we were upgrading

1838
01:23:32,640 --> 01:23:34,380
our point of sale service for the year

1839
01:23:34,380 --> 01:23:37,560
we noticed that this format did not

1840
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:41,159
include a new single Rider fee

1841
01:23:41,159 --> 01:23:43,020
um the single Rider fee was created

1842
01:23:43,020 --> 01:23:47,100
during the covid outbreak where we had a

1843
01:23:47,100 --> 01:23:48,239
lot of people that did not feel

1844
01:23:48,239 --> 01:23:50,159
comfortable riding with other Riders due

1845
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,199
to the separation and you didn't have a

1846
01:23:52,199 --> 01:23:54,060
good way to actually separate two people

1847
01:23:54,060 --> 01:23:56,159
in the cart so we started allowing them

1848
01:23:56,159 --> 01:23:58,440
but to do that we actually were charging

1849
01:23:58,440 --> 01:24:00,480
a premium because we were allowing them

1850
01:24:00,480 --> 01:24:02,400
to ride in their own cart

1851
01:24:02,400 --> 01:24:05,400
um that I don't want to say that rape

1852
01:24:05,400 --> 01:24:07,260
structure there has been unofficially

1853
01:24:07,260 --> 01:24:09,000
left in place since then I mean the

1854
01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:11,940
pandemic is you know I guess over but

1855
01:24:11,940 --> 01:24:13,260
some are still feeling you know the

1856
01:24:13,260 --> 01:24:15,120
effects of it so what we wanted to do

1857
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,580
was make it official I worked with

1858
01:24:17,580 --> 01:24:19,920
Anthony and Matt on this we checked

1859
01:24:19,920 --> 01:24:22,020
other horses that have a similar rate

1860
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:25,679
structure and what we decided on was a

1861
01:24:25,679 --> 01:24:28,320
four hour premium for nine holes and a

1862
01:24:28,320 --> 01:24:30,420
six dollar premium for 18 holes for

1863
01:24:30,420 --> 01:24:32,040
single Rider and that's what we're

1864
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:34,679
proposing uh today

1865
01:24:34,679 --> 01:24:36,420
so this is what we charge enjoying the

1866
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:39,120
pandemic yes it was never codified

1867
01:24:39,120 --> 01:24:40,980
because it was something that we just

1868
01:24:40,980 --> 01:24:42,719
you know we did because people are

1869
01:24:42,719 --> 01:24:44,400
asking so we probably should not have

1870
01:24:44,400 --> 01:24:46,199
done that and I apologize but we caught

1871
01:24:46,199 --> 01:24:48,179
it uh while we were entering it this

1872
01:24:48,179 --> 01:24:49,800
year and we wanted to make sure that we

1873
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:51,300
brought it forward so we have it so this

1874
01:24:51,300 --> 01:24:53,100
is going to be an official rate of

1875
01:24:53,100 --> 01:24:54,659
course you know Matt is on his

1876
01:24:54,659 --> 01:24:55,860
discretion if you don't have enough

1877
01:24:55,860 --> 01:24:58,320
carts you know it's something where he's

1878
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:00,780
going to have to to manage it but on a

1879
01:25:00,780 --> 01:25:02,940
typical normal day we should have enough

1880
01:25:02,940 --> 01:25:05,699
riding parts for it

1881
01:25:05,699 --> 01:25:10,630
any other questions concerns

1882
01:25:10,640 --> 01:25:15,179
toilet paper thank you thank you the

1883
01:25:15,179 --> 01:25:17,040
next item is just a reminder for the

1884
01:25:17,040 --> 01:25:19,500
public here regarding the 2023-24

1885
01:25:19,500 --> 01:25:22,260
proposed heart annual election plan and

1886
01:25:22,260 --> 01:25:24,420
this public cable will be held on April

1887
01:25:24,420 --> 01:25:28,430
10th that's next Monday

1888
01:25:28,440 --> 01:25:30,480
seeing our business support Finance we

1889
01:25:30,480 --> 01:25:34,140
have emotions required all a favor hi

1890
01:25:34,140 --> 01:25:36,060
thank you I'm going to call to order the

1891
01:25:36,060 --> 01:25:37,920
Public Safety Committee the residers on

1892
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:39,659
the agenda tonight first of which is

1893
01:25:39,659 --> 01:25:41,699
requesting State legislation requiring

1894
01:25:41,699 --> 01:25:44,159
compliance with the city code related to

1895
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:45,780
rental residential property

1896
01:25:45,780 --> 01:25:48,060
Administration poor eviction proceedings

1897
01:25:48,060 --> 01:25:50,480
now being specified

1898
01:25:50,480 --> 01:25:55,080
thank you Mr chairman uh Albany enacted

1899
01:25:55,080 --> 01:25:58,080
your private Act is a change in state

1900
01:25:58,080 --> 01:26:00,659
law which allowed

1901
01:26:00,659 --> 01:26:02,420
rental

1902
01:26:02,420 --> 01:26:06,560
certificate program to be a condition

1903
01:26:06,560 --> 01:26:08,880
for evictions

1904
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:13,189
in Schenectady we have the program

1905
01:26:13,199 --> 01:26:16,040
where landlords are supposed to

1906
01:26:16,040 --> 01:26:19,440
register their property we have a good

1907
01:26:19,440 --> 01:26:21,540
number that do they're very compliant

1908
01:26:21,540 --> 01:26:25,020
those tend to be the landlords where we

1909
01:26:25,020 --> 01:26:27,239
do not have problems with

1910
01:26:27,239 --> 01:26:30,300
they maintain their property they take

1911
01:26:30,300 --> 01:26:33,500
care of issues there is still a group of

1912
01:26:33,500 --> 01:26:38,760
landlords who choose not to

1913
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:41,340
participate in the registration process

1914
01:26:41,340 --> 01:26:43,860
so we don't do the inspections there

1915
01:26:43,860 --> 01:26:46,260
we're not following up on it and we

1916
01:26:46,260 --> 01:26:48,659
don't have good data in terms of how

1917
01:26:48,659 --> 01:26:50,580
many units are out there how many are

1918
01:26:50,580 --> 01:26:52,380
actually being rented

1919
01:26:52,380 --> 01:26:54,300
so what I'm asking the council to do is

1920
01:26:54,300 --> 01:26:56,100
start the process for home rule

1921
01:26:56,100 --> 01:26:58,620
legislation where

1922
01:26:58,620 --> 01:27:02,460
it would mirror albany's that

1923
01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:04,860
a landlord could not start an eviction

1924
01:27:04,860 --> 01:27:08,159
proceeding unless they had participated

1925
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:12,600
in the registration process and it in

1926
01:27:12,600 --> 01:27:15,659
fact helps both the tenant and the

1927
01:27:15,659 --> 01:27:18,060
landlord depending on what signs you're

1928
01:27:18,060 --> 01:27:20,400
on because there's that Baseline

1929
01:27:20,400 --> 01:27:22,679
inspection that's come in so we've sent

1930
01:27:22,679 --> 01:27:25,860
in staff they've looked at the property

1931
01:27:25,860 --> 01:27:28,139
they've said that it is meeting certain

1932
01:27:28,139 --> 01:27:30,840
standards sometimes we photographed it

1933
01:27:30,840 --> 01:27:33,540
we've documented it and so if there is

1934
01:27:33,540 --> 01:27:36,600
some argument down the road where an

1935
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:39,360
eviction proceeding is going that

1936
01:27:39,360 --> 01:27:43,860
Baseline gives the court a reference

1937
01:27:43,860 --> 01:27:48,060
point to validate you know is the tenant

1938
01:27:48,060 --> 01:27:50,100
in the wrong is the landlord in the

1939
01:27:50,100 --> 01:27:54,300
wrong to something in between but I also

1940
01:27:54,300 --> 01:27:57,179
think it will get a higher compliance

1941
01:27:57,179 --> 01:28:01,560
from landlords to participate in the

1942
01:28:01,560 --> 01:28:04,320
rental registration program and so I

1943
01:28:04,320 --> 01:28:07,320
would ask the council to uh

1944
01:28:07,320 --> 01:28:10,500
send in the request for that and then we

1945
01:28:10,500 --> 01:28:12,900
would work with the state legislature to

1946
01:28:12,900 --> 01:28:15,300
hopefully get basically what the city of

1947
01:28:15,300 --> 01:28:17,460
Albany got

1948
01:28:17,460 --> 01:28:21,480
life cycle of the cycle just before that

1949
01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:25,040
any questions or comments

1950
01:28:25,050 --> 01:28:27,480
[Music]

1951
01:28:27,480 --> 01:28:29,880
all in favor hi

1952
01:28:29,880 --> 01:28:33,540
and the next item is a reminder the

1953
01:28:33,540 --> 01:28:36,600
missing section 182-16 at this next week

1954
01:28:36,600 --> 01:28:38,699
city code the guardian smoking and city

1955
01:28:38,699 --> 01:28:43,250
parks the public hearing was held on

1956
01:28:43,260 --> 01:28:47,400
March 13th I'm just bring this back

1957
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:50,159
the last item is additionally a reminder

1958
01:28:50,159 --> 01:28:52,920
of many of the expectation code to add

1959
01:28:52,920 --> 01:28:55,199
Provisions relating to the use of the

1960
01:28:55,199 --> 01:28:58,320
school bus stop on cameras this is a

1961
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:00,060
reminder that the public hearing will be

1962
01:29:00,060 --> 01:29:01,800
on

1963
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:08,209
April 10th

1964
01:29:08,219 --> 01:29:10,020
excuse me uh returning back to the

1965
01:29:10,020 --> 01:29:12,060
second reminder can I please get a

1966
01:29:12,060 --> 01:29:13,440
motion if there are any questions or

1967
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:15,440
comments

1968
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:18,540
second awesome paper

1969
01:29:18,540 --> 01:29:21,179
thank you again moving on to the third

1970
01:29:21,179 --> 01:29:23,340
reminder I'm ending the school bus stop

1971
01:29:23,340 --> 01:29:26,280
for camera alarms or bus stop arm

1972
01:29:26,280 --> 01:29:28,980
cameras public hearing will be held on

1973
01:29:28,980 --> 01:29:31,440
April 10th 2023.

1974
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:40,810
there are any other ideas

1975
01:29:40,820 --> 01:29:44,100
operations we have one agenda item and

1976
01:29:44,100 --> 01:29:46,199
we have active boards appointment and

1977
01:29:46,199 --> 01:29:51,080
the Gary parking thank you Mr chairman

1978
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,639
issues that are potentially moving

1979
01:29:53,639 --> 01:29:56,520
before the board of ethics and reviewing

1980
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,880
it through two vacancies

1981
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,380
both individuals who moved out of the

1982
01:30:01,380 --> 01:30:04,860
city and we're no longer eligible to

1983
01:30:04,860 --> 01:30:08,219
serve so what I've submitted to you and

1984
01:30:08,219 --> 01:30:10,380
has to request to reappoint three

1985
01:30:10,380 --> 01:30:13,380
numbers and then he submitted two names

1986
01:30:13,380 --> 01:30:16,020
for your consideration to fill the

1987
01:30:16,020 --> 01:30:19,020
vacancies of the individuals who no

1988
01:30:19,020 --> 01:30:25,209
longer are part of the board

1989
01:30:25,219 --> 01:30:28,440
is there any way we can get a copy the

1990
01:30:28,440 --> 01:30:30,300
backup here is redacted with the

1991
01:30:30,300 --> 01:30:32,520
addresses I would like to see the

1992
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:34,380
residential address because our city

1993
01:30:34,380 --> 01:30:36,300
code says I think that with Central

1994
01:30:36,300 --> 01:30:39,120
members the membership reside in the

1995
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:41,100
city of Schenectady and this is redacted

1996
01:30:41,100 --> 01:30:43,800
so I can be able to see the residential

1997
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,239
address

1998
01:30:45,239 --> 01:30:48,120
you haven't emailed well it was emailed

1999
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,239
yeah it was also um

2000
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:55,790
well it's redacted

2001
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:59,880
I could send that to you there's

2002
01:30:59,880 --> 01:31:02,699
only one of them where it had their work

2003
01:31:02,699 --> 01:31:04,620
address here in the city of Schenectady

2004
01:31:04,620 --> 01:31:07,380
everyone else had

2005
01:31:07,380 --> 01:31:11,510
uh Schenectady address

2006
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,320
so you have a version with the address

2007
01:31:13,320 --> 01:31:17,280
that I can access now yeah

2008
01:31:17,280 --> 01:31:20,340
they don't have it on me and you're

2009
01:31:20,340 --> 01:31:22,860
raising a question about uh officer

2010
01:31:22,860 --> 01:31:25,560
Dalton he's a resident of the city of

2011
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:28,080
Schenectady provide for that okay police

2012
01:31:28,080 --> 01:31:30,480
officers by state law

2013
01:31:30,480 --> 01:31:32,219
do not have to disclose their home

2014
01:31:32,219 --> 01:31:35,760
address and have to reference their

2015
01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,420
employee employer's address but key is a

2016
01:31:39,420 --> 01:31:42,600
resident the city is connected

2017
01:31:42,600 --> 01:31:45,020
what about the other person

2018
01:31:45,020 --> 01:31:54,110
she is also a resident City

2019
01:31:54,120 --> 01:32:03,189
um yes

2020
01:32:03,199 --> 01:32:07,070
any other questions

2021
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:09,900
around this

2022
01:32:09,900 --> 01:32:12,060
can all moved the appointment of these

2023
01:32:12,060 --> 01:32:16,970
two these individuals

2024
01:32:16,980 --> 01:32:20,950
um

2025
01:32:20,960 --> 01:32:24,840
no I'm just saying that the thing came

2026
01:32:24,840 --> 01:32:28,910
from father I saw both of them

2027
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:33,659
oh the the person yes okay

2028
01:32:33,659 --> 01:32:35,520
um I would like to see the address of

2029
01:32:35,520 --> 01:32:37,320
foreign

2030
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:49,270
could we get that now Sam sure thank you

2031
01:32:49,280 --> 01:32:55,970
Sacramento because

2032
01:32:55,980 --> 01:32:57,260
um

2033
01:32:57,260 --> 01:32:59,340
if you're going to discuss it if you're

2034
01:32:59,340 --> 01:33:03,729
going to look at the address the results

2035
01:33:03,739 --> 01:33:07,320
so at this time I'll I'll entertain a

2036
01:33:07,320 --> 01:33:10,199
motion belong to Executive session

2037
01:33:10,199 --> 01:33:15,600
foreign

2038
01:33:15,610 --> 01:33:20,470
[Music]

2039
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:23,820
did you want to discuss it well I would

2040
01:33:23,820 --> 01:33:25,080
like to see the address and I guess we

2041
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:26,940
can discuss their question to ask about

2042
01:33:26,940 --> 01:33:30,060
the address so we might be asking I

2043
01:33:30,060 --> 01:33:31,139
don't know

2044
01:33:31,139 --> 01:33:37,790
sometimes yeah

2045
01:33:37,800 --> 01:34:19,930
yes

2046
01:34:19,940 --> 01:34:23,689
thank you

2047
01:34:23,699 --> 01:35:12,110
foreign

2048
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:36,050
show this week

2049
01:35:36,060 --> 01:35:49,710
foreign

2050
01:35:49,720 --> 01:36:16,850
[Music]

2051
01:36:16,860 --> 01:36:33,169
okay

2052
01:36:33,179 --> 01:36:35,699
and as we wait for Sam I just kind of

2053
01:36:35,699 --> 01:36:37,320
want to bring to my college attention

2054
01:36:37,320 --> 01:36:39,300
that like because I think this is just

2055
01:36:39,300 --> 01:36:41,340
related in a way that um

2056
01:36:41,340 --> 01:36:43,679
you know collection of certain

2057
01:36:43,679 --> 01:36:45,540
demographic data especially protected

2058
01:36:45,540 --> 01:36:48,000
classes that's how we

2059
01:36:48,000 --> 01:36:49,760
um you know

2060
01:36:49,760 --> 01:36:52,320
really assess ourselves especially like

2061
01:36:52,320 --> 01:36:54,060
that's why we have things like programs

2062
01:36:54,060 --> 01:36:55,739
like firmative action you know what I

2063
01:36:55,739 --> 01:36:58,620
mean all the those uh programs in that

2064
01:36:58,620 --> 01:37:01,080
nature to try to ensure equity and

2065
01:37:01,080 --> 01:37:02,400
equality

2066
01:37:02,400 --> 01:37:06,060
um one of the uh backbones of that

2067
01:37:06,060 --> 01:37:08,340
collecting that demographic data so we

2068
01:37:08,340 --> 01:37:09,900
can always know

2069
01:37:09,900 --> 01:37:12,300
um that we are

2070
01:37:12,300 --> 01:37:14,760
doing our part and going in the right

2071
01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,739
direction so just to think like as we

2072
01:37:16,739 --> 01:37:18,960
talk about ethics appointments all these

2073
01:37:18,960 --> 01:37:20,460
things are important now

2074
01:37:20,460 --> 01:37:22,860
anything that we do as a government as a

2075
01:37:22,860 --> 01:37:24,780
city government we need to be asking the

2076
01:37:24,780 --> 01:37:26,159
right questions and looking through a

2077
01:37:26,159 --> 01:37:29,040
lens that will produce equity and if

2078
01:37:29,040 --> 01:37:30,659
we're not intentional about doing that

2079
01:37:30,659 --> 01:37:32,820
then we just leave it up to things being

2080
01:37:32,820 --> 01:37:35,040
done because they've already been done

2081
01:37:35,040 --> 01:37:37,020
that way then we'll certainly going to

2082
01:37:37,020 --> 01:37:38,940
get a similar outcome that raised and I

2083
01:37:38,940 --> 01:37:40,080
know that we

2084
01:37:40,080 --> 01:37:43,260
um well at least most of us really want

2085
01:37:43,260 --> 01:37:45,480
to ensure equity and we want to move to

2086
01:37:45,480 --> 01:37:46,620
a more

2087
01:37:46,620 --> 01:37:49,860
diverse and representative of

2088
01:37:49,860 --> 01:37:51,659
functioning city government so I think

2089
01:37:51,659 --> 01:37:52,980
that's just something to keep in mind we

2090
01:37:52,980 --> 01:37:55,320
don't know unless we ask these questions

2091
01:37:55,320 --> 01:37:58,910
of ourselves

2092
01:37:58,920 --> 01:38:03,070
yes

2093
01:38:03,080 --> 01:38:05,639
I'll make a motion about the exact

2094
01:38:05,639 --> 01:38:09,590
perception sorry

2095
01:38:09,600 --> 01:38:21,070
um

2096
01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:23,639
keep going down there's nothing I see

2097
01:38:23,639 --> 01:38:25,320
other letters after it

2098
01:38:25,320 --> 01:38:27,239
oh they did they redact their addresses

2099
01:38:27,239 --> 01:38:34,910
and everything yeah yeah okay okay

2100
01:38:34,920 --> 01:38:37,260
we'll just we'll get me some Michael

2101
01:38:37,260 --> 01:38:42,000
back and then we can move ahead

2102
01:38:42,010 --> 01:38:48,010
[Music]

2103
01:38:48,020 --> 01:38:50,780
Curtis this has her address on it

2104
01:38:50,780 --> 01:39:02,750
the resume what's the address

2105
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:07,490
[Music]

2106
01:39:07,500 --> 01:39:09,420
thank you

2107
01:39:09,420 --> 01:39:21,830
foreign

2108
01:39:21,840 --> 01:39:30,530
addresses

2109
01:39:30,540 --> 01:39:32,840
um and say anything on the record

2110
01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:44,750
suggestion for the sake of yeah

2111
01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:48,129
oh

2112
01:39:48,139 --> 01:39:50,480
thank you Sam

2113
01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:53,219
president that was forwarded by the

2114
01:39:53,219 --> 01:39:54,719
charity Ethics Committee that's

2115
01:39:54,719 --> 01:39:58,139
apparently across the line for the

2116
01:39:58,139 --> 01:40:00,420
actual residences it's not in the city

2117
01:40:00,420 --> 01:40:02,820
it's connecting so well withdraw the

2118
01:40:02,820 --> 01:40:04,280
name of uh

2119
01:40:04,280 --> 01:40:08,470
Wendy Lahar

2120
01:40:08,480 --> 01:40:11,040
Okay so

2121
01:40:11,040 --> 01:40:12,840
are you asking me I should just move

2122
01:40:12,840 --> 01:40:14,100
ahead with the one appointment that's

2123
01:40:14,100 --> 01:40:16,199
going inside if you would move ahead

2124
01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:18,780
with the reappointment is three and the

2125
01:40:18,780 --> 01:40:20,880
one new appointment

2126
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:23,159
the extra consideration and then I will

2127
01:40:23,159 --> 01:40:24,960
get another name to the council in the

2128
01:40:24,960 --> 01:40:25,940
next cycle

2129
01:40:25,940 --> 01:40:28,560
again my further question is does the

2130
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:30,480
board need all five members in order to

2131
01:40:30,480 --> 01:40:32,280
meet

2132
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:48,950
he's a foreign

2133
01:40:48,960 --> 01:40:50,760
are you accepting names

2134
01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:55,250
are you accepting recommendations

2135
01:40:55,260 --> 01:40:57,840
those are my questions I just have a

2136
01:40:57,840 --> 01:40:59,340
follow-up I did ask about the two new

2137
01:40:59,340 --> 01:41:01,679
ones I already honors reappointment are

2138
01:41:01,679 --> 01:41:03,420
they all residents was it disconnected

2139
01:41:03,420 --> 01:41:09,709
yes

2140
01:41:09,719 --> 01:41:12,480
so um so we're you know so you're asking

2141
01:41:12,480 --> 01:41:14,280
us to move forward um

2142
01:41:14,280 --> 01:41:16,739
with app with drawing the one name who

2143
01:41:16,739 --> 01:41:19,800
is not a resident is that correct yes Mr

2144
01:41:19,800 --> 01:41:22,430
chairman

2145
01:41:22,440 --> 01:41:25,560
any other questions concerns

2146
01:41:25,560 --> 01:41:29,540
yeah so I will entertain the motion so

2147
01:41:29,540 --> 01:41:37,250
I'll second it um

2148
01:41:37,260 --> 01:41:47,830
hi

2149
01:41:47,840 --> 01:41:52,570
motion to adjourn government operations

2150
01:41:52,580 --> 01:42:00,500
thank you

2151
01:42:00,510 --> 01:42:16,229
[Music]