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[10:54] first item accepting money from the New
[10:57] York State DOT or X State uh this is our
[11:00] chips money we get an annual allocation
[11:02] every year
[11:04] um sometimes it varies depending on the
[11:06] state budget
[11:07] this year we are getting a standard
[11:10] chips program along with extreme winter
[11:12] recovery uh
[11:14] top which is uh pave our potholes paved
[11:17] New York and the state touring route the
[11:20] total of all funding sources is 4.8
[11:23] million dollars and total change
[11:25] um
[11:27] this is uh the largest allocation that
[11:29] we've gotten the biggest note is the
[11:32] state touring route money which this
[11:34] year was around two million dollars that
[11:36] is a new allocation in the budget for
[11:39] the last couple years and is not
[11:40] guaranteed in the future so
[11:43] you know I don't I don't know if uh if
[11:46] they do know they take it away what's
[11:48] gonna what's gonna happen I'm sure once
[11:49] you give someone missed Palace all over
[11:51] the state money like that it's going to
[11:53] be harder to take it away but I just
[11:56] wanted to make sure that you're aware
[11:57] that was a new allocation about three
[11:58] years ago which is why our totals are so
[12:00] high
[12:11] Woodland Preserve
[12:14] this is a
[12:16] State Grant administered by dazny
[12:19] this was I believe both of these grants
[12:21] were
[12:22] um
[12:24] oh I've got a stick's office uh sorry
[12:27] just took me a second this particular
[12:28] Grant we needed some money to do some
[12:30] re-establishment in the Woodlawn
[12:32] preserve for habitat and um they had a
[12:36] municipality who remained nameless that
[12:39] was not active on the list of using this
[12:41] money so it was reallocated to us as we
[12:43] had a need we will be using this to do
[12:46] some stump work which we've already
[12:48] awarded and we're also going to be using
[12:51] it to do some preservation creation for
[12:53] the Lupine hopefully with the carnival
[12:55] butterfly then some trail maintenance
[12:57] and some work all in The Preserve so
[13:00] this is to the agreement has been signed
[13:04] that we have to accept the money Finance
[13:06] won't move unless we accept the money so
[13:08] that's what this is
[13:18] yep so the friends of the greenhouse
[13:20] working in cooperation with Cornell
[13:22] Cooperative they apply for received a
[13:25] Sam Grant through Stax office for 125
[13:28] 000 they originally wanted to use it for
[13:31] a
[13:32] Pavilion
[13:35] um and to use it as a pavilion area
[13:36] however they decided that it would be
[13:39] better served to their mission statement
[13:41] if they remove the existing Greenhouse
[13:44] number four and install a new Greenhouse
[13:47] which they're calling a teaching
[13:48] Greenhouse the current greenhouses are
[13:50] not large enough to hold classes and
[13:52] work on tables so this new Greenhouse
[13:56] would allow them to do more teaching and
[13:58] educational events
[14:00] screen
[14:01] questions
[14:03] a little bit second all in favor all
[14:06] right thank you thank you
[14:10] the next item is authorization to enter
[14:15] Schenectady Community Action Program for
[14:18] rental assistance replacing cbub
[14:27] good evening everybody
[14:29] um we are looking to allocate some of
[14:31] our unspent cdbgcb funding towards
[14:34] rental assistance with scap we know that
[14:38] with the e-wrap funding kind of ending
[14:40] and some of the esgc Lee funds that
[14:43] we've allocated for rental assistance
[14:45] have been have been spent and they're
[14:47] really if there's a gap right now in
[14:49] terms of funding available for rentals
[14:50] rental assistance so we're just
[14:53] requesting to allocate this funding for
[14:55] that purpose
[14:56] um scap also wrote up a narrative of
[14:59] some of the issues of the challenges
[15:00] that they're facing and trying to solve
[15:03] we think it's a good use of the funding
[15:05] and also in line with what our plan was
[15:08] for cdbgcb in terms of neighborhood
[15:10] stabilization
[15:12] um so we're just looking for to
[15:14] authorize the mayor to enter a contract
[15:16] with skep for them not to exceed amount
[15:18] of 200 000 for rental assistance
[15:22] questions go ahead please thank you so
[15:25] scap will be actually paying rent that's
[15:28] in their areas
[15:30] yes do they have like I don't see the
[15:33] exact guidelines do you know like how
[15:34] many months is there uh you know how
[15:36] they're usually it's just three months
[15:38] um yeah they have we could send you the
[15:40] pro their program guidelines if that's
[15:42] something you want to see I don't know
[15:44] all the details but I know typically
[15:46] it's a three-month period but with the
[15:49] CV money I think it can be up to six
[15:51] months okay yeah because people have
[15:53] asked about you know how this program is
[15:55] going to work because I said we've got
[15:57] other requests for legislation to do
[15:59] something kind of similar so I just want
[16:00] to know how this program worked and you
[16:02] know and maybe have an idea of how many
[16:04] households I think they did say how many
[16:06] households 52 yep and so how long this
[16:09] money would actually last and if you
[16:11] didn't mean to look at something so it's
[16:13] not it's not going to be a new program
[16:14] it's actually it's just going to be
[16:15] building on what they're already doing
[16:17] for rental assistance but it's just
[16:18] providing some more funding for it it's
[16:21] not a new program it's in line with what
[16:23] they've been doing
[16:24] um and and you know the the guidelines
[16:28] would remain pretty much the same like I
[16:31] just want to get a sense of how long
[16:32] this one would last
[16:34] yeah yeah
[16:36] um and I I don't like I said I don't
[16:39] know all the details but I do think that
[16:42] they were estimating that right now you
[16:47] know they they could be spending up to a
[16:50] hundred thousand per month
[16:51] um in rental assistance so
[16:55] um I don't want to say we can get the
[16:58] details but that is what I've been you
[17:00] know what our discussions have reflected
[17:02] so it's definitely High need yeah it's
[17:04] definitely great to have the details
[17:06] thank you for your um
[17:12] identification of this program and just
[17:15] how they can fill this need that is so
[17:17] vascular in our community based on your
[17:19] conversations with uh the sky would you
[17:22] say that this 200 000 fully meets the gaps that have been identified or
[17:28] where it is not I don't think there's
[17:31] any amount of money that could probably
[17:32] be the gaps with you know as we all know
[17:35] after the eviction works are lifted and
[17:38] just everything that has come with that
[17:40] there is a need that we definitely um
[17:43] can't meet on our own you know we do
[17:45] have access to some other funding but
[17:46] we're trying to be a partner and making
[17:48] sure that we're doing what we can
[17:51] um and because we have the CV funding
[17:54] um available and we need to spend that
[17:56] down as well it's I think it's just a
[17:58] great boost for it and then it follow-up
[18:01] question uh would it be appropriate then
[18:02] in getting your recommendation for us to
[18:04] uh potentially when you look at
[18:07] evaluating applying funds to help fill
[18:10] up that Gap as well
[18:12] I think that would probably take some
[18:14] review and would be you know
[18:17] discussion to to consider with the mayor
[18:19] and Council thank you
[18:23] so um I think that this is great I think
[18:26] that that there's a Clarity in the
[18:28] community so I'm totally supported that
[18:30] um my question is can come to your
[18:33] limited scope or through your
[18:34] conversation with scap are they gonna
[18:36] like do you know that is there any way
[18:38] that they can take this money kind of
[18:39] Leverage it to maybe apply for MoneyGram
[18:42] money do they have it yes I I did that
[18:44] is what you know I I know that they do
[18:46] that with all the funding we provide and
[18:48] they get you know there's different ways
[18:50] it can be leveraged and they're always
[18:52] really good about you know not having a
[18:54] sole source but trying to
[18:56] um you know build out a plan that
[18:58] leverages the funding they receive
[18:59] because I think it's good for people to
[19:01] know that if we're talking about 200
[19:03] Grand and it's such a great need that
[19:06] this money will be leveraged hopefully
[19:08] to hold more to to meet their need and
[19:10] you know hopefully not right and
[19:12] hopefully you know the state will also
[19:13] come out with some more resources
[19:16] um being made available for the purpose
[19:18] because it is definitely a high need
[19:19] thank you go ahead please I I
[19:24] Rodriguez say that era was going to open
[19:27] back up
[19:28] that
[19:30] uncertain but it's possible yeah right
[19:34] now
[19:36] absolutely but you you know it may yeah
[19:39] I think like I said I think the state is
[19:41] going to have to do something whether
[19:42] it's e-wrap or another source
[19:45] um I could see that happening yeah
[19:49] go ahead in terms of the guidelines is
[19:52] Gap and if you don't know this if you
[19:53] could find out so if there's individuals
[19:55] who
[19:57] um whose income didn't change but
[19:58] because there was legislation saying
[20:00] they didn't have to pay their rent and
[20:01] therefore we didn't so they have
[20:03] guidelines to look at that to make sure
[20:05] that anyone who whose income remained
[20:07] the same would still not be timed
[20:08] because it just didn't pay that I mean
[20:10] do they would they be able to have
[20:12] access to this as well
[20:14] I would imagine that in their intake
[20:16] process they would collect that that
[20:18] kind of documentation
[20:21] that's important I mean if people added
[20:23] the uh the ability which simply didn't
[20:25] do it then you know this should really
[20:27] be for people who just didn't have the
[20:29] means because they their loss of income
[20:31] or whatever the case was yeah and so I
[20:33] would like to know specifically I mean
[20:35] at the end of the day I think it's
[20:36] related directly to homeless prevention
[20:38] so and I don't want to speak for scout
[20:41] but I would think if that were the case
[20:44] but someone's still facing homelessness
[20:45] because now they don't have a place to
[20:47] live and they would apply you know and
[20:50] I'm not sure exactly how they they read
[20:52] through those things but if someone's
[20:54] facing homelessness they're facing
[20:55] homelessness yeah it's my understanding
[20:57] I think we should consider like
[20:59] prioritizing people who did it so we can
[21:01] talk about that but if you can find them
[21:04] thank you
[21:09] do you want that as a condition on the
[21:12] money well I would certainly like to
[21:13] take a look at that mayor because you
[21:15] know these people who by know you know I
[21:18] understand so that was what you're
[21:19] saying just wondering if you want that
[21:21] in there I'd like this to move ahead and
[21:26] so the review might take a longer period
[21:29] of time so if it was the condition was
[21:31] that this is going to go to individuals
[21:33] whose income is adversely affected
[21:36] because of covid whatever as opposed to
[21:41] people who may have made what I'll call
[21:44] Poor choices in terms of managing their
[21:46] resources
[21:48] just put it in the resolution going
[21:50] forward as opposed to holding it up for
[21:52] additional review well I would
[21:55] definitely say that for me that needs to
[21:57] be a priority
[21:59] I would say
[22:01] um you know once this gets approved then
[22:03] we still have to do the contract with
[22:04] scam and come up with the agreement so I
[22:07] think that there is an opportunity to
[22:09] you know to include you know the things
[22:12] that that the council in there would
[22:13] like in the in the agreement
[22:15] forward but I just wanted to make sure
[22:18] that we're not trying to manage scaff I
[22:20] think they have the expertise the years
[22:22] of working with this population
[22:25] I think that you know they've done an
[22:28] amazing job for decades I think I can't
[22:31] be specific about that but
[22:34] um you know I think that if we give them
[22:36] the money I think what we're saying is
[22:37] we trust your background We Trust what
[22:41] you've been doing in our community to
[22:43] help especially the most vulnerable
[22:45] population that's facing homelessness
[22:47] and eviction so I just want to caution
[22:50] against putting too many restrictions on
[22:53] the funding moving forward and I know
[22:54] that's my non-profit hat sitting on my
[22:57] shoulders but you know
[22:59] I appreciate that that comment I think
[23:02] that um you know they're the ones who
[23:04] are kind of boots on the ground dealings
[23:05] but
[23:08] um you know certainly if there is a
[23:11] prior prioritization we would also just
[23:14] have to make sure that ethically they
[23:16] can Implement that and it would be you
[23:19] know something to discuss let me just be
[23:20] clear I don't first this is a once in a
[23:22] lifetime thing called what is and I
[23:24] don't think we're micromanaging but as
[23:25] funders we do get to say that our money
[23:27] should be spent in the best way possible
[23:29] people
[23:30] um their income didn't change and they
[23:33] didn't pay the rent I think that the
[23:34] people whose income did change should be
[23:36] on the top of the list to make sure that
[23:38] they get the help Miss Tia has already
[23:40] said there's way more people out there
[23:42] than even money so we should be
[23:43] prioritizing those by who by no fall
[23:46] through their own we're not able to meet
[23:47] their obligations
[23:50] I hear what you're saying but I just
[23:56] emphasize that you know I really trust
[23:59] the work that they're doing and I think
[24:00] that they probably do have those kinds
[24:02] of priorities Etc
[24:04] um that they face on a day-to-day basis
[24:06] so I just want more effects
[24:09] I was just going to add it seems like
[24:11] again it's another situation of
[24:13] um
[24:13] yes in all right so we look at whatever
[24:16] parameters that scap has existing
[24:19] um and if those existing parameters
[24:21] don't satisfy that from areas to this
[24:24] being covered then we can you know talk
[24:26] with them about about that language but
[24:28] I'm pretty sure that everyone would
[24:30] agree that we want to impact the people
[24:32] with the highest uh need and I think
[24:35] that's kind of part of that so if we do
[24:37] that there's a way to look at their
[24:40] existing processes I'm sure that they
[24:42] have made some adjustments due to
[24:44] um covet as well and if not we can just
[24:46] say hey you know we want to make sure
[24:47] how do we ensure that this is we're
[24:49] using this to really impact the people
[24:50] the mostly and I think everyone will be
[24:52] talking kind of the same language when
[24:53] it comes to that
[24:57] and this has a point of reference all
[24:59] these common Council when they pass
[25:01] similarities of legislation designated
[25:03] money for this population who need they
[25:05] could apply a certain number of
[25:06] restrictions so it's not anything that
[25:08] we're doing that's in common I
[25:09] definitely understand uh council
[25:11] president porterfield's position and I
[25:13] think as long as we do that
[25:14] collaborative release we make sure that
[25:15] we're meeting our needs as a council but
[25:18] also adhering to their functionality I
[25:20] think it is something that we can do in
[25:22] streamline that without affecting the
[25:24] people that need the money
[25:27] I just do want to say that we also did
[25:30] give them um funding for homeless for
[25:33] covet support for homeless people um
[25:35] during the aqua discussion so I just
[25:37] wanted to remind everybody about that as
[25:39] well
[25:40] all right any other companies concerns
[25:43] may have a motion to remove this some
[25:46] water removing we're moving
[25:50] good point we're moving to fun
[25:57] without the provisions
[26:02] [Music]
[26:03] going to provide the documents do you
[26:06] request it no so what I'm asking I'm not
[26:09] necessarily asking for those documents
[26:10] but I want us to be able to have those
[26:12] priorities in our contract that we say
[26:14] we like it prioritized in this way is
[26:16] that possible you can put whatever yeah
[26:18] you can put those prescriptions around
[26:19] can you can just be explicit with what
[26:22] it's going to be subject to terms where
[26:24] you know I don't want to take words out
[26:27] of you know the mouths of any of the
[26:29] council people if there are terms that
[26:31] you're going to require in there outside
[26:33] of what's being proposed coming from the
[26:35] development department in the mayor's
[26:37] office on this I just would like you to
[26:39] just obviously be you know tell me
[26:41] exactly what it's going to be subject to
[26:46] so it doesn't seem like that would hold
[26:50] this up at all it seems like we can we
[26:52] could move forward with this and then at
[26:54] the appropriate time where you know
[26:55] there there could be some added language
[26:57] if need be because there might be
[26:59] language that's existing you should
[27:00] probably tell me what the criteria is
[27:03] one solution to go forward so what I
[27:07] would like to see in the resolution is
[27:08] that that they prior I'm not saying that
[27:10] other people can't benefit but the
[27:12] priority means to those who face are
[27:15] facing homelessness because their loss
[27:17] of income or whatever it was and
[27:19] um by no fault to Rome and those whose
[27:21] income didn't change
[27:23] um they would need their priority well I
[27:26] won't say they wouldn't get um help at
[27:28] all but the priority would be to those
[27:30] who had loss of income or facing
[27:32] homeless as a result of that and there
[27:34] was no change in their income and
[27:35] ability to pay and that's what's causing
[27:37] this
[27:40] I'll
[27:42] always forget that I understand what
[27:44] you're saying I think the population
[27:45] we're talking about is all extremely low
[27:47] income so even if they didn't have a
[27:49] change in income they're still extremely
[27:52] low income
[27:53] I hear what you're saying yeah
[27:56] I mean the fact is there's some people
[27:59] who I've heard said that you know didn't
[28:01] have to pay rent didn't pay rent because
[28:02] they didn't have to pay rent not because
[28:03] they didn't have the ability to pay
[28:04] around so that's not uh I'm not
[28:06] anecdotal I mean I hear what you're
[28:08] saying but we can't I'm sorry but I just
[28:10] don't think that scalp I mean I really
[28:12] trust that scap is is expertise um Miss
[28:16] diode and her her staff's expertise in
[28:18] working with them
[28:20] um I would I would not want to vote for
[28:22] something that would put additional
[28:23] restrictions in but I know that will
[28:26] happen next week so
[28:28] um I don't I'm not on this committee
[28:30] so move it with the understanding to add
[28:32] those to uh those languages
[28:37] I'm not I think that we should be helping people that really need the help in in this
[28:44] situation final software they're all
[28:46] that's how I see this
[28:49] cool nature to play what
[28:51] um
[28:53] the subject to so authorizing this
[28:57] agreement subject to uh placing language
[29:00] within the agreement stating that the
[29:02] funding will be prioritized for people
[29:06] who are facing homelessness
[29:10] due to loss of income not
[29:14] with due to no fault of their own
[29:18] that's essentially what I've gathered
[29:21] from that
[29:23] go ahead again is it any fault of their
[29:25] own that inflation has has increased
[29:27] prices of everything around us I mean I
[29:30] just feel like that's a very I don't
[29:32] know how we make those judgment calls
[29:34] nor do I think that I want to make that
[29:36] judgment call The Challenge if I may I
[29:39] think the challenge will be
[29:42] well
[29:43] certainly the intent
[29:46] from the council or members of the
[29:47] councils there when scap is dealing with
[29:50] somebody they're now having to make that
[29:52] determination on whether or not the this
[29:56] is somebody's fault or not somebody's
[29:58] fault when using these resources and
[30:01] obviously I think there may be a level
[30:03] of subjectivity on whether or not
[30:06] somebody's responsible for their
[30:08] circumstances
[30:10] so I think there there is there may be
[30:13] some difficulty in their operations in
[30:16] determining who gets the funds and who
[30:17] doesn't because
[30:19] you know everybody's gonna have a story
[30:21] when they come in right so I I think
[30:23] where we might be getting hung up on
[30:25] Amazon around the language of fault of
[30:27] their own I think that if that if we are
[30:30] delinquishers that we are going to
[30:32] prioritize people who have um had loss
[30:35] of income and facing homelessness I
[30:37] think that I would imagine that that's
[30:39] probably
[30:40] really in line with what scap is doing
[30:43] anyway and sufficient enough language
[30:45] that we're gonna
[30:47] therefore that would get you out you
[30:49] know out of that place I think that
[30:50] you're talking about now you're in the
[30:51] group you're like now we're being really
[30:53] uh
[30:54] yeah
[30:56] we're making no judgment calls but I
[30:58] think that the intention is just
[30:59] prioritize people who needed the most
[31:00] due to Lost income that's fine
[31:04] it doesn't have to be false if they're
[31:06] wrong it's a subject of prioritizing the
[31:09] funds for people who are facing
[31:11] homelessness due to loss of income
[31:12] during covet is that
[31:17] however Ms Patrick that doesn't satisfy
[31:20] her well no I was sometimes
[31:22] not on this subcommittee
[31:24] um I just stand with what I've what I've
[31:26] previously said
[31:28] um and I just really know that
[31:30] population is you know
[31:32] that's good yeah I was just gonna say I
[31:35] mean um I think if I were to reach out
[31:38] and get some comment from scat that
[31:40] might resolve the issue if we know
[31:42] specifically what is is happening but
[31:48] so are we going to move forward
[31:54] I understand the support Field's point I
[31:58] actually agree with it the problem I
[32:02] have is how to improve loss of income
[32:05] in a lot of ways I mean some people will
[32:08] be able to other people won't
[32:10] and if we're waiting for steps
[32:13] information
[32:15] why not just move it forward
[32:19] as is
[32:22] and just move forward because apparently
[32:25] they have some sort of guidelines
[32:28] and I'd like to make sure that the
[32:29] guidelines are including that and I
[32:30] would love to have seen them today
[32:32] um
[32:37] just because it's it's I don't know how
[32:40] many of you I mean I'm just know that
[32:43] it's happening that there are people who
[32:45] just landlords have been complaining
[32:46] that people have not lost their income
[32:48] and are still not paying me rent we've
[32:50] heard from the landlords so I just want
[32:52] to make sure that as we're helping
[32:53] people we're helping those priorities
[32:55] and those who are not in that situation
[32:57] if you've ever been to any landlord
[32:58] meetings you'll hear it all the time
[33:00] you have a this program that's capital I
[33:04] mean Brooklyn is they've been doing this
[33:05] for years
[33:06] so at least they have something in place
[33:09] to carry on this program right so yeah
[33:13] they've just seen they've been doing it
[33:15] over here we've been following it
[33:17] so I don't doubt that but I just want to
[33:19] make sure that people who didn't pay
[33:22] them because they don't want to aren't
[33:24] the ones
[33:25] please
[33:27] so we can we can get a copy of the
[33:30] guidelines or how to go about doing it
[33:32] for us
[33:39] let's get this money out there the
[33:41] contract signed whatever they've been
[33:42] doing it we've been funding it for a
[33:44] long time let's see but let's just pass
[33:46] it as it is without any restrictions on
[33:48] the money
[33:49] at this point
[33:51] there's a restrictions
[33:58] without arm restrictions
[34:00] so it seems like we could
[34:03] potentially move forward right now
[34:05] getting it out of committee
[34:07] um as it is right now and
[34:11] explore what guidelines that scap has
[34:13] existing and so those two things can
[34:16] happen right yes okay so it seems like
[34:19] we're wrong I have one other question so
[34:22] if if doesn't have those five ones then
[34:24] if scat doesn't say
[34:27] if that's not part of it that's my
[34:29] question to the council actually not Mr
[34:31] Young
[34:34] I guess you'd vote against it next week
[34:35] giving them the funding um
[34:44] guidelines
[34:45] if they're not and I doubt but they
[34:48] would be not I'm sorry I don't weather
[34:54] so that's what we can use the same
[34:56] guidelines that they have currently to
[34:58] administer this one right so my question
[35:00] is if they don't have the guidelines
[35:02] saying that there was no you know a
[35:04] person who didn't pay rent just because
[35:06] they didn't pay rent because you could
[35:07] find that information out from the
[35:08] landlord or from wherever they get you
[35:10] know they're um not having homelessness
[35:12] anymore
[35:14] that's my question
[35:18] well with the council move this ahead
[35:20] does the uh could check tomorrow to see
[35:24] what the criteria is and their General
[35:27] Conformity on that
[35:29] have it ready to go for next Monday
[35:32] night
[35:33] as long as the general as long as that's
[35:35] there that's that's just my concern I've
[35:37] heard from the landlord's been to other
[35:39] meetings about how people are not paying
[35:40] their rent and have the ability
[35:43] so just want to make sure the people who
[35:45] don't pay the rent because they couldn't
[35:46] make sure they get the benefit from this
[35:48] Mr Coleman if I can make a suggestion
[35:51] um moving ahead as it was presented
[35:53] tonight
[35:55] um subject to obviously receiving you
[35:58] know the the guidelines that they have
[36:01] already set up and if they are not the
[36:04] guidelines that the council generally
[36:06] agrees with obviously can you know at
[36:10] the time of the resolution there would
[36:11] be time you vote on it then the
[36:14] languages are there you can always you
[36:17] know make an amendment to the resolution
[36:18] to add
[36:19] language that the council generally
[36:22] would be comfortable with
[36:24] and again hopefully we don't get to that
[36:27] point hopefully those guidelines that
[36:28] Scott followers are going to you know be
[36:31] amenable with counseling
[36:35] all right
[36:37] any other discussion today
[36:40] all in favor thank you the next item is
[36:44] authorization the Android contract or
[36:46] Schenectady County drug trading Agency
[36:48] for the summer youth employment
[36:53] um so this is related to the youth
[36:55] employment piece of the tree
[36:56] collaborative program
[36:58] um planning to move forward again goal
[37:00] is to plant 100 trees
[37:02] um recently we moved forward the portion
[37:04] for the the project management this is
[37:06] for the Youth Employment piece with sjta
[37:08] so it's for our contract with them to
[37:10] employ the needs for the program
[37:13] questions
[37:14] concerned we have a lotion
[37:17] all in favor all right the next item is
[37:21] follow-up are a contract
[37:26] yeah
[37:27] so yeah I asked the rooms to be put back
[37:30] on the agenda we haven't talked about in
[37:32] several months to see where we are with
[37:34] the contracts how much money has been
[37:36] expended not just allocated but actually
[37:39] spent so
[37:41] um I asked for it from we have and you
[37:43] both everyone should have information
[37:45] from the finance department and then
[37:48] Miss Diaz can just tell us the contacts
[37:50] are at this point
[37:52] um yeah so we've executed three of the
[37:55] contracts
[37:56] um that we have for the development
[37:57] projects um specifically
[38:00] um the other there's there's four more
[38:02] that are kind of in the final stages of
[38:04] just you know negotiations with bcni and
[38:07] for um seat Center and for the
[38:09] Schenectady Foundation
[38:12] um the remaining projects we're still
[38:14] waiting for the pre-contract
[38:16] requirements to be met so for people to
[38:18] actually submit the documentation to go
[38:21] to contract
[38:22] um and then there are other ones where
[38:26] we have gotten no response
[38:29] um I think the Aquatic Center is one
[38:32] um
[38:33] so I mean you know I'm not gonna I
[38:35] wasn't going to go through line by line
[38:36] but essentially we've executed three
[38:38] contracts we have four that are pretty
[38:40] much ready to go
[38:42] um and then the remaining is either has
[38:43] contingencies or we're waiting um on the
[38:46] pre-contract requirements we have had
[38:48] communication with most of the projects
[38:52] um
[38:53] you know in response to the pre-contract
[38:55] questions and things like that so it's
[38:57] been ongoing communication but we're
[38:59] just waiting for those those items to be
[39:01] able to move forward these three
[39:03] contracts that we have we already
[39:04] executed uh the YWCA for their critical
[39:07] Capital needs State Inc for Steakhouse
[39:11] and um Bethesda House of Schenectady for
[39:13] the Care House support housing
[39:17] and those were three that were kind of
[39:19] critical needs as well so
[39:21] um
[39:22] it was good that they've been been
[39:24] executed
[39:30] okay
[39:34] please can we get a listing of the
[39:39] contracts that have not provided any
[39:41] responses to you yep the only reason why
[39:44] I believe that is I think we should be
[39:45] proactive with money that's returned
[39:47] back and try to identify additional
[39:50] needs which include new projects for
[39:53] consideration or how do we triage what
[39:55] has already been submitted
[40:07] so I know that the green Mark in
[40:11] particular says that they'd sent their
[40:12] information in so is there a like a time
[40:15] frame when they can expect that or if
[40:17] you have one off the top of your head um
[40:20] information
[40:22] as far as I'm aware okay
[40:24] so okay so it would be kind of a
[40:27] specific discussion okay
[40:41] so all the things up here like the
[40:43] empowerment program none of that would
[40:46] be included in materials in terms of
[40:48] that that's all City stuff yes the city
[40:50] stuff is not we're not overseeing okay
[40:58] all right um and then the other reason
[41:00] for bringing this forward I'm sure that
[41:01] you maybe I'm not sure but it may have
[41:03] heard um I had a conversation with Mr
[41:06] Ferrari last week that there was some
[41:08] conversation that the federal government
[41:09] might be trying to claw back some money
[41:11] if money wasn't spent from not just
[41:13] Schenectady but other other
[41:14] municipalities so I just want to make
[41:16] sure that they're like being on top of
[41:18] making sure the money's allocated and
[41:20] spent so that that doesn't um apply to
[41:22] us he didn't give us the specific
[41:24] guidelines maybe
[41:25] um Derek knows those I don't know but I
[41:28] just wanted to you know let everyone
[41:29] know that that's happening that's at
[41:31] least been a conversation so we don't
[41:33] want that to happen you never want to
[41:35] give back grant money or have it taken
[41:36] back from you so
[41:38] um so we really should be like moving
[41:40] ahead and um also I guess this is really
[41:43] a question for the mayor in terms of um
[41:46] will we be able to hire a consultant to
[41:47] help oversee some of these these
[41:50] projects
[41:51] I know that we discussed it like months
[41:53] ago you said that that was in the works
[41:54] can we continue to review it at this
[41:57] point we've not hired anybody but we're
[41:59] still moving through the process of
[42:01] getting contracts in place and then
[42:03] being able to administer and going
[42:05] forward
[42:07] um so when we I know that we also losing
[42:09] somebody from development so is that
[42:12] something we can do you know more
[42:13] quickly I know that he's been really
[42:15] involved with with doing it so it seems
[42:17] like um
[42:18] density
[42:19] okay
[42:22] um so that seems like it's like more of
[42:24] a critical need now that we're losing
[42:26] another person again in a conversation
[42:28] with Mr Ferrari said that he would be
[42:30] able to manage this in the short term so
[42:34] we can continue to do ongoing
[42:36] Recruitment and move forward this
[42:39] process of getting the contracts in
[42:41] place
[42:43] and so I guess in in terms of writing
[42:46] the contracts is that coming out of the
[42:47] Law Department has drafted a
[42:53] contract that can be used pretty much
[42:56] for all of the projects involving
[42:59] outside agencies
[43:01] we're working though with development
[43:03] when they have to be
[43:05] um you know I think tailored to the
[43:06] particular project so I know we've been
[43:10] working with Miss Dia and Mr Gray in
[43:13] terms of doing that fine Tailoring
[43:17] so this does that mean you provided them
[43:20] a template and they're just filling in
[43:21] the blanks because you provided them
[43:23] with the time with and
[43:25] um they've done asked questions about
[43:26] you know if if something has to be
[43:28] tailored for a particular project or
[43:30] particular agency we've done stuff in to
[43:33] provide assistance
[43:35] and then we review it before it gets
[43:37] finalized for the mayor
[43:43] so how about I guess how
[43:45] is it in terms of your office able to be
[43:48] able to generate all this stuff is I
[43:49] mean if it's uncomfortable to talk about
[43:51] publicly let me know but
[43:53] I mean you know we just have to come up
[43:56] with the program and what the guidelines
[43:59] are and just all of the details and that
[44:01] takes time you know I think it takes
[44:02] time with any contract that we do
[44:04] because of all the stimulus funding yeah
[44:06] it's a lot you know it's a lot more that
[44:08] both development and law have to
[44:11] um
[44:12] you don't have to have to make work
[44:14] so yeah it's you know
[44:18] I don't know what else to say about yeah
[44:20] it's a lot it's a lot of extra work
[44:22] um but we were trying to manage it
[44:24] accordingly
[44:26] um
[44:29] I think a lot of it also happens once
[44:31] the contracts are executed just ensuring
[44:33] compliance making sure that people are
[44:35] reporting that's going to be the biggest
[44:37] because everybody's going to want to see
[44:39] you know the council is going to want to
[44:40] see it what did the ARP of funding that
[44:43] we allocated what did it do right we
[44:46] want to be able to track that so that
[44:47] happens later on once the money's
[44:50] actually being spent a lot of it's not
[44:52] happening early on it's just getting the
[44:53] documentation as the seat said and
[44:56] reaching out to the organization is
[44:58] trying to make sure that you know if
[44:59] they have funding contingencies that
[45:01] they haven't lined up so we have a
[45:03] better sense of is this project going to
[45:05] move forward is it not going to move
[45:06] forward
[45:07] mm-hmm
[45:12] please I appreciate
[45:15] um
[45:16] I don't imagine any Department that's
[45:18] going to get up there and say we're
[45:20] drowning and I appreciate it more
[45:22] definitely comes at a cost and
[45:25] definitely that that cost is the
[45:27] teamwork that you're doing and your
[45:29] ability to do it efficiently and
[45:30] effectively and that's something that we
[45:32] have to weigh but for myself I think
[45:34] whenever a year given whenever I'm
[45:36] giving more tasks what helps is seeing
[45:38] the light at the end of the tunnel I'm
[45:39] sorry Mr Mayor you said that you're in
[45:41] the stages of bringing on a Consulting
[45:43] service if you wouldn't mind just
[45:44] clarifying what stage are you vetting
[45:47] applicants are you receiving applicants
[45:49] or where's yeah if you don't mind I've
[45:51] extended an offer to one person who
[45:55] enjoying the planning department staff
[45:57] anticipate that happening the next
[46:00] couple of weeks
[46:01] again Mr Ferrari is telling me that he's
[46:04] able to
[46:06] handle this in the short term
[46:09] and then depending on
[46:12] what I'll say the complexity of some of
[46:15] the contracts whether we would use some
[46:18] of the Consultants that we already have
[46:20] under contract
[46:22] the engineering department whether
[46:24] there's
[46:27] building buildings it's different than
[46:30] it's a program delivery and so
[46:34] as we move through this it stole
[46:37] somewhat fluid in terms of what the
[46:39] actual demand will be in how complex it
[46:43] will be
[46:45] at this point we haven't gotten a lot of
[46:48] the information back so that we're able
[46:49] to enter into contracts
[46:52] you know that is moving forward
[46:55] thank you
[47:01] well would it be helpful to have a
[47:02] Consultants to win the follow-up that's
[47:05] like like these people who aren't you
[47:07] know sitting in their context for
[47:08] whatever reason if you may need texts
[47:10] you support would it be helpful for that
[47:12] I understand what Mr Colden is saying
[47:14] that at the end they need somebody to do
[47:16] with the compliance but we're not only
[47:19] are we giving them a timeline we're also
[47:21] operating on a timeline and that this
[47:23] money has to be allocated and then spent
[47:24] by a certain time so the law where we it
[47:27] lingers out there then you know we're in
[47:30] um Jeopardy of not either having it
[47:32] taken back or not being able to spend it
[47:35] um in the way that we initially
[47:36] allocated it so does it make sense now
[47:39] for us to be looking for someone who can
[47:42] actually follow up with people if if the
[47:45] department of development is not doesn't
[47:46] have the the staff to do it
[47:52] well yes I am looking at that
[47:55] the actual contracts that are in place
[47:57] in our workload that we will staff at an
[48:00] adequate level to make sure that we can
[48:03] appropriately administer those to get
[48:06] the projects done and
[48:08] have compliance and the money is
[48:10] expended in an appropriate manner
[48:16] okay would you like to see us back in
[48:21] two weeks please
[48:29] the next item is the annual Pharmacy
[48:32] exterior building for the Earth
[48:36] several years ago we started this
[48:38] program
[48:41] and this program has been it's a success
[48:43] story out there in the community
[48:49] so what I'm looking for because with
[48:52] your support to continue this
[48:54] programming this year
[48:56] and I have this evening Gmail use on the
[48:59] back of documents last year we were able
[49:02] to give back to our community in 17 000
[49:04] to 100 million dollars
[49:08] or exterior building for it and that has
[49:11] to do with 90 rooms for me at 123 the
[49:14] jungle four minutes and 29 stands for
[49:17] minutes
[49:18] so I
[49:20] because of the success we're getting
[49:22] from the program I realized so
[49:31] exterior work of the building
[49:35] any questions
[49:38] all in favor
[49:40] um thank you any other business oral
[49:42] Finance yeah I just wanted to mention
[49:44] one more thing we didn't ask Mr Google
[49:46] want to um to speak at all regarding the
[49:49] um the financial piece of this is there
[49:51] anything you wanted to discuss with us
[49:52] regarding friends or piece of the arpa
[49:54] funding is there any questions
[49:58] that I sent to you
[50:03] I'm sorry
[50:12] um
[50:20] so we have three projects on this list
[50:24] that are construction
[50:25] uh we have a few that are in the design
[50:27] base do that on hold and a few that are
[50:31] attending if you know more on these
[50:34] sites where the project is but if you're
[50:37] looking at the numbers where we actually
[50:39] spent in conferences how much you have
[50:42] left over uh
[50:43] okay so like specifically when we
[50:48] when I said when you sent it I asked the
[50:50] email
[50:51] um I was looking through all of them I
[50:53] was looking specifically it said that I
[50:55] mean we know that that's the um General
[50:57] Brown's been broken we know that's all
[50:59] happened but the one million still sits
[51:01] so I was wondering how that
[51:04] looks like that
[51:07] I mean and basically from what I
[51:10] understand it's uh if there's a
[51:13] shortfall or if there's another project
[51:14] that might be allocated towards the
[51:17] certain product from doing this at the
[51:19] park
[51:24] to answer that question for you
[51:29] I did but we didn't spend any of it on
[51:31] the project is that what you said we
[51:33] haven't it's it's been allocated but
[51:35] there hasn't been any actual specters
[51:37] coming out of that obviously
[51:40] okay I will ask Mr wrong because I'm not
[51:47] really clear on how that works when the
[51:48] actual work has been done we've seen it
[51:49] since it's been done so I'm sure
[51:52] ready
[52:03] foreign
[52:12] so you have actual 408 000 617.79 that's
[52:17] actually being spent out of that right
[52:18] and this is well then
[52:21] that that is just a Central Park that's
[52:24] just an overall if there's any other
[52:25] improvements that are required so it is
[52:27] to walk away some of the lighting
[52:29] movements
[52:44] see
[52:45] we have uh four million approximately
[52:49] actual uh 9.5 million conversations
[52:55] all right
[52:57] good question is this money been
[53:00] contracted uh so with the breakout sheet
[53:04] I don't know if you have that department
[53:06] analysis
[53:09] um did you see the codes next to it says
[53:12] cn97 so on so forth those are the
[53:16] contracts we have otherwise we don't put
[53:18] it in our nearest accounting system
[53:23] okay what's up all right thank you
[53:27] any other questions motion to a jar
[53:31] all in favor thank you
[53:34] I'd like to call the order of student
[53:36] development and planning we have mine
[53:38] items on the agenda
[53:40] the first item is just a reminder for
[53:43] the determination of the secret
[53:46] of the environmental significance of
[53:50] rezoning parcels between Hamilton and
[53:52] Schenectady strong streets and parts of
[53:54] Summit Avenue and the public hearing
[53:56] will be on May 22nd
[53:59] any questions about that okay something
[54:02] motion
[54:07] the parcels between Hamilton Schenectady
[54:10] strong streets and parts of Summit
[54:11] Avenue Muslim street from R1 to R2
[54:16] and the public hearing for that will be
[54:17] also on 522.
[54:20] any questions
[54:22] okay item number three an appointment
[54:25] through the civilian police review board
[54:27] mayor McCarthy
[54:30] the police Community review board is
[54:32] comprised of members that are
[54:35] submitted from various groups
[54:39] from their submission but we're supposed
[54:42] to submit to I submit names to the
[54:45] council there is one position that is at
[54:48] my discretion going forward into the
[54:51] council for your consideration Mr
[54:53] Magoo's name
[54:58] any questions yeah another question um a
[55:01] comment I just wanted to thank Rose for
[55:03] her years of dedication to this board I
[55:05] think a lot of people forget that it
[55:06] functions very much that the intent of
[55:09] being an objective voice with respect to
[55:11] how investigations are completed at the
[55:13] police department
[55:14] sometimes those conversations can become
[55:17] a little testy but I appreciate any
[55:19] individual that's willing to volunteer
[55:20] their time to support this process
[55:23] moving forward and she very much has
[55:25] remained in place and I would like to
[55:28] publicly just appreciate her and I look
[55:29] forward to this new individual stepping
[55:31] in and filling that needs as well
[55:33] any other questions or comments
[55:36] um
[55:39] thank you uh the ceremony resolution is
[55:43] for the Caribbean National National
[55:45] Heritage Month Mr motive Aaron thank you
[55:48] June is being recognized as a national
[55:50] Caribbean American Heritage monthly
[55:53] resolution to recognize the contribution
[55:56] towards our city
[55:58] any questions
[56:03] uh ceremonial resolution recognizing
[56:05] Pastor Felicia Collins Mr Palomino yes
[56:07] uh Pastor Collins has been called to
[56:10] another church she served our community
[56:12] very well and I think it's appropriate
[56:15] we recognize her questions or comments
[56:18] I'm moving second all the favor all
[56:21] right thank you uh item number six the
[56:23] ceremony resolution of recognizing uh
[56:25] five months 2023 there was a request
[56:28] that was sent to us to do a ceremony
[56:30] resolution for that to be presented on
[56:32] June 3rd at the event and so um he's
[56:35] putting that forward for resolution any
[56:37] questions
[56:41] the last three items will be an
[56:43] executive session for property sales so
[56:46] at this time I'd like to entertain a
[56:47] motion for Teresa
[56:52] thank you
[56:54] I'd like to call to order our government
[56:57] operations one item on the agenda and
[56:59] you have to go into executive assessment
[57:01] for this item
[57:02] yeah
[57:05] okay good I've submitted the council for
[57:08] your approval and then to the collective
[57:11] bargaining agreement which
[57:15] is
[57:19] Executives
[57:24] the council has questions if you go into
[57:28] executive session and do some things
[57:29] that will just be public information on
[57:32] it and what the questions
[57:34] thank you
[57:38] I'm fine
[57:42] and one of the components of this which
[57:46] we're trying to do across the board is
[57:50] under the pay system that has existed in
[57:53] the city for as long as people can
[57:54] remember
[57:55] we pay people
[57:58] before they've actually worked so you
[58:02] get your paycheck on Thursday for work
[58:06] that we hope they'll do on Friday
[58:10] everybody works on Friday very hard
[58:13] uh
[58:14] it's been looked at in the audits it's a
[58:18] it's flagged as an item in in this uh
[58:22] we're looking to eliminate that so that
[58:27] there'll be a lag payroll so the work
[58:29] you do this week you will get paid
[58:33] next week
[58:35] and in that we're going to give the
[58:38] employees one extra week of pay at the
[58:42] end of the year to balance it out you
[58:44] have today in the pay system
[58:47] uh
[58:49] depending on when the calendar is
[58:53] that individuals end up with a very
[58:56] small paycheck or mid-size paycheck
[59:00] almost never you get a full paycheck and
[59:03] so it's to balance that out at the end
[59:04] of the year negotiated with the Union to
[59:07] again
[59:10] smooth that out at the end and then also
[59:12] bring us into compliance so that we'll
[59:14] have a lag in the payroll so that it
[59:18] will allow for uh
[59:21] the elimination of the possibility of
[59:24] somebody getting paid and they're not
[59:25] actually doing the work
[59:29] what's being proposed in the in what you
[59:33] have before you is for new as it applies
[59:36] right now if you're new buyers
[59:38] um we haven't
[59:39] come to terms yet with this is obviously
[59:42] for CSEA
[59:44] like that to apply at some time in the
[59:47] future for obviously all employees with
[59:49] such a neglective bargaining so as it
[59:52] applies now before the new folks coming
[59:55] on board for csca
[59:59] but the anticipation will be that this
[1:00:02] will eventually apply to everyone we
[1:00:04] just have to obviously because we've
[1:00:06] been going through this system for such
[1:00:07] a long time
[1:00:09] figuring out how to exactly get that
[1:00:12] accomplished one and to negotiate an
[1:00:15] agreement with the unions because it is
[1:00:17] such a collective bargaining so that
[1:00:19] will come back to the city council at a
[1:00:21] future oil so this is just from the new
[1:00:24] Iris with CSEA
[1:00:26] so this
[1:00:28] makes a lot of sense to me
[1:00:30] um I guess my own question would be
[1:00:33] um it was just something that you know
[1:00:34] what was the function of it operating
[1:00:36] the way that it's operating up until
[1:00:38] this point is that just another one of
[1:00:40] those things that just happened that way
[1:00:41] because they've been happening that way
[1:00:42] or is there uh uh you know some thought
[1:00:46] around this or they just serve a purpose
[1:00:48] I wish I could tell you I'm sorry
[1:00:52] so that it was put in place
[1:00:56] 50 years ago six years ago one of those
[1:01:00] things is happening yeah and the obvious
[1:01:02] concern is that somebody
[1:01:04] works I don't know gets paid on a
[1:01:06] Wednesday that's it you some people hits
[1:01:09] their accounts on Wednesday for me it's
[1:01:11] a Thursday but some people actually just
[1:01:12] pretend on one set if they're not there
[1:01:14] on Friday they would have this mayor
[1:01:16] indicated gotten paid for a day that
[1:01:18] they didn't work which is
[1:01:19] obviously not ideal clearly allows us to
[1:01:23] resolve that issue
[1:01:26] so what other contracts so right now
[1:01:28] this is for CSEA new empires going
[1:01:31] forward when would this come up again
[1:01:33] for other this will apply to all the
[1:01:36] references new employees who will apply
[1:01:38] to all CSEA after the first of the year
[1:01:41] so after
[1:01:43] January 1st or whatever that first paper
[1:01:45] it is everybody will be effectively a
[1:01:48] lag payroll and we're trying to
[1:01:52] negotiate it in the other contracts
[1:01:55] where that is applicable
[1:01:58] so it's not just new hires it's everyone
[1:02:00] it would be new hires between now and
[1:02:04] the end of the year after January 1st
[1:02:07] it'll apply to everybody in CSEA
[1:02:10] bargaining units for this agreement okay so um
[1:02:17] that's not how it's written here
[1:02:20] attached to this is the Moss
[1:02:28] any other questions comments as soon as
[1:02:30] we're on this
[1:02:32] [Music]
[1:02:39] so
[1:02:46] second
[1:02:48] I thought I was unboxing so it's me and
[1:02:51] no no it's me
[1:02:57] I rent Donna I write this down wrong
[1:02:59] every week okay sorry about that it's
[1:03:02] like there's four people in the
[1:03:03] community
[1:03:05] okay
[1:03:11] Mr Golden I don't have the mou attached
[1:03:28] that is it
[1:03:30] this is one said new Arizona but I'm
[1:03:32] looking for what he explained
[1:03:34] I don't have no I don't have what you're
[1:03:36] looking at but it's fine I'll get it
[1:03:38] okay I don't have that okay well he said
[1:03:42] there's an mou in the machine because
[1:03:44] that one says new hires that one says
[1:03:49] [Music]
[1:03:52] all CSE employees will receive an extra
[1:03:55] check so that the employer shall move
[1:03:58] from a Payday
[1:04:00] uh payroll Jewel lag payroll
[1:04:04] and then it's all CSE employees that's
[1:04:07] affected the last pay period of December
[1:04:10] 20.
[1:04:13] okay
[1:04:17] because I'm looking at that I'm not sure
[1:04:24] it didn't coincide with discussion so I
[1:04:26] just want to make sure
[1:04:29] I like to reconvene
[1:04:31] um
[1:04:32] see developmental planning
[1:04:34] oh
[1:04:37] and then we'll go to the second session
[1:04:41] I'd like to reconvene City development
[1:04:43] planning the final items are um for
[1:04:46] executive session so I'd like to ask for
[1:04:48] motion to go in the second session um
[1:04:50] all's in favor all right okay the public
[1:04:53] will have to leave