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And welcome to the Rochester Community Schools Board of Education Regular Meeting. We are called to order at 705 and we will save the pledge of allegiance again for the beginning of this meeting.

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This Board of Education Regular Meeting is a meeting of the Board of Education in public for the purpose of conducting the school district's business and is not a public community meeting. However, there is a time for public participation during the meeting. General public comment will be heard under agenda item 8.1 or

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or you may speak regarding a consent agenda item

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or any action item one called upon.

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If you know that you wish to speak tonight

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and have not already filled out a yellow card,

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they're located at the table in the back of the auditorium.

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Once you've completed the card, please hand it

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to a safe ed officer in the yellow shirt.

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And when it's time for the public comment,

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we will call your name and ask that you move

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to the microphone and address the board.

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When addressing the board, you'll have three minutes to speak

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and we'll let you know when you have 30 seconds remaining.

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Please be mindful of this time limit.

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When addressing the board, state your name and your relationship to the district.

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Please address your comments to the entire board and not to individual board members, school district employees, or to members of the audience.

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We reserve the right to exclude from our meeting an individual who engages in conduct that constitutes a breach of the piece.

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Once again, on behalf of my board colleagues, we're grateful to serve this community and appreciate your support.

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Before we get started with our meeting, I wanted to acknowledge that today is Juneteenth

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and several board members are wearing pins to commemorate the holiday.

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Governor Gretchen Whitmer and Lieutenant Governor Garland Gilcrust proclaimed Juneteenth

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as Juneteenth Celebration Day in Michigan to honor African American history and culture

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and commemorate one of the most momentous events in American history.

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The emancipation of the last enslaved African Americans held in bondage in the Confederate

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States. Juneteenth became a federal holiday in 2021 in the United States, although it has been

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observed by African Americans since the late 1800s. On this day of recognition, we encourage

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all individuals to reflect on our nation's history so we can continue to join together as a community

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and a country to protect and support the rights of all citizens. At this point, I'm going to turn it

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over to Mrs. Fraga-Mennie as well for a moment of silence.

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Good evening, thank you, Madam President, Board of Education members.

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It is with great sadness and a very heavy heart that we inform our entire community

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that the sudden passing of Jacob, Frank, a Rochester Adams high school graduate,

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the class of 2018, and a later grad of Michigan State University.

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Jacob is described as being very kindhearted, inquisitive, intelligent,

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he adored dogs and was always willing to lend a helping hand to anyone in need.

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A memorial reception will be held for Jacob at the Rochester Community House on June 21st from 3 to 9 p.m.

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I spoke to his mom just a few hours ago and she please invites anyone who would like to stop by.

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It would mean a great deal and she thinks that community for all their support.

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Our thoughts and prayers remain with Jacob's family and his friends during this very difficult time.

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Please join me in observing a moment of silence.

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Thank

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you, and for anyone interested in more information, the Pixie website is all of the information for their family.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Next we have a roll call and all board members are present.

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Is there a motion to approve the agenda as presented, moved by Secretary Gupta, support by Mrs.

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Ball? Is there any discussion?

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Madam President.

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Mrs. LaCouille.

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I would like to add a motion to the agenda.

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The motion is I move that we direct acting superintendent Debbie Fraga-Money to ensure that professional

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development, which will be scheduled to take place at this point.

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Thanks.

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We wouldn't be talking about the motion, you'd be talking about the subject, so if you give us the subject for the agenda item.

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The subject for the agenda item is for acting superintendent W. Fragumani to make sure that professional development that will be taking place next year for K-5 teachers will include updated instruction about best practices and literacy and that problematic lessons and old queuing strategies that linger in our current units of study reading and writing curriculum will be addressed and eliminated.

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Okay, so motion to amend the agenda to include professional development for K-5 teachers for best practices and in literacy and to address the problematic queuing strategies that exist in the current curriculum.

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You don't have that in writing for me, do you, and address problematic queuing strategies?

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I have them, I could pass the motion to you if that exists.

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Okay, moved by Mrs. LaCouille, is there support?

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Mr. Weaver.

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All right, is there any discussion on that?

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Sure.

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Mrs. LaCouille.

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Former Secretary General of the United Nations, Kofi Annan said, literacy is a bridge from misery to hope.

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It is a tool for daily life in modern societies.

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It's a bulwark against poverty and a building block of development.

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Literacy is a platform for democratization and a vehicle for the promotion of cultural and national identity.

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For everyone, everywhere, literacy is, along with education in general, a basic human right.

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Literacy is, finally, the road to human progress.

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And the means through which every man, woman, and child can realize his or her full potential.

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Two meetings ago we had a presentation on literacy.

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We heard from parents about literacy instruction in Rochester community schools.

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I am asking that we follow up tonight on what we learned from educators and

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parents with tangible action by our Board of Education.

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I am proposing a public board discussion on this followed by direction to our acting superintendent.

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So the important positive changes can be put in place before the next school year.

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And what better day to do it than June 8th?

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Does anyone else have any comment on this?

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Mr. Weaver?

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I support this motion for the standpoint of it actually identifies an education topic that we've not addressed very often at the support table, so absolutely, I believe we added to the agenda.

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Anyone else?

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Okay, so the motion is to amend our current agenda to add item 7.13, professional development.

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that we direct the assistant, the WD Super Intendent, to provide professional development for K5 teachers for best practices on literacy and address problematic questions, queuing strategies that exist.

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This is adding it right now, we're voting on whether to add it to the agenda or not, Mrs.

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is the annus for you looking to.

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So, I have a clarifying question for the administration

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before I vote in favor of adding this to the agenda.

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May I ask that question?

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Yes.

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I guess I would direct this at Mrs. Fraga-Mennie.

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When do typically the K-35 teachers receive

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professional development?

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And would that not also include strategies for reading?

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Madam President, would this not be discussion during the motion?

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That would be a reason to maybe not vote for.

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The actual motion, but not to put it on the agenda.

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It will, it will.

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I will say, Mr. Weaver is correct, the discussion should be revolving around whether we add this to the agenda or not.

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I can't vote whether or not to put it on the agenda unless I know that we're superseding and I need that information

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before I want to put it on the agenda, discuss it.

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If we put it on the agenda, you can ask that question and then you could vote based on that information.

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So at this point, it's the motion to add an agenda item regarding professional development for K-5 teachers.

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We have a motion by Mrs. LaCouille and support by Mr. Weaver.

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So all of those in favor, please say aye.

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Aye.

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How many ayes were there?

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One, two, three, four.

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Okay, we have five ayes and the nays, two nays.

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Okay. The amendment passes that will become item 7.13.

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All right, so now we are back to actually.

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I think a request. That was quite a bad lot of words in it. Is there any way before we have a discussed we could have somebody just

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Xerox that and handed to all of us? Yeah, I think we can take care of that.

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I appreciate that.

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I apologize.

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I had slips made up and they dropped out of my bind.

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So at this point, we have the agenda before us.

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We have to vote on approving the agenda which would include 7.13.

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So all of those in favor-

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Madam President, I actually move to remove item 6.1.

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We have a second amendment to remove item 6.1.

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Is there support for that?

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Okay, so by Mr. Weaver and support by Mrs. LaCouille.

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Mr. Weaver, did you wish to speak to why you wish to amend the motion to remove that?

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Yes, I'm seeking to remove this one.

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We don't have a policy for how these groups get on to our agenda.

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This was discussed in December of 22 leading up to this year.

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The explanation was given that the groups that speak in this spot are up the 12 that are

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approved at our January 14th meeting, this entity, this nonprofit, is not part of that group.

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So at this point we wouldn't be following any against that standard for who we allow onto our agenda for organizations.

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And so I think, again, at this time, it would be good to remove that, establish a process for

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what organizations and how organizations get on our agenda before, again, we get ourselves in position of discriminating against which ones we allow in which we don't.

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This is a non-profit that has not been vetted by anyone, and it was not voted on because it's not part of the 12 that was voted on during the January 14th meeting.

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This is, I'm going to speak next, this is a report item and this is a group that we already have an agreement with.

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So we are hearing a report from them and we are voting on an amendment to that agreement.

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So we do have something, they have already been heard and we have an agreement with them.

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When would that relationship have approved?

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Back in 2019, you have the agreement, it was sent to you.

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So we have other organizations, other than this 12, that are allowed into this spot on our agenda.

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Because this spot on our agenda was specifically what was questioned, how groups get on there, and what policy process we follow.

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So now, can we get a full list then of all the organizations that can be in this spot?

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We don't have a full list of the organizations in which we work with and we provide access to our agenda.

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We don't have a list.

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All right, so at this point is anyone wish to speak whether this should be on the agenda or not at this point?

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Well, in just to clarify, I think communications item four is typically where we have the other groups speak.

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So that's when we have the student speak, that's when we have our other community representative speak.

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This is a different section of our agenda reports.

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This is a completely different item.

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All of those in favor of removing 6.1 from, all of those in favor of the amendment to remove 6.1.

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Please say aye.

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Those opposed, please say no.

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That's a two, five vote.

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The amendment does not pass.

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Yes. All right, we are back to approving a motion to approve the agenda as presented with the addition of 7.13, which would be the professional development for K5 teachers.

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All of those in favor, please say aye, aye, opposed?

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That's a 7-0 vote and the amended the motion passes with the amendment.

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We're now on to communications, which is 4.0 on our agenda.

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This is where we share various communications that have been received.

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4.1 is communications received by the board.

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Secretary Gupta, would you please provide us with a report?

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At this time, 10 communications have been received in the packet for reference.

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Madam President.

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Mrs. LaCouille, could you have a point of order?

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Yes, I have a point of order to make about this item on the agenda.

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Two communications that we received say they have attachments, but they were not included in the board packet.

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So even though attachments have been included for the past couple months, I've come to find out that the board president made the decision that they will know.

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I don't think the board president has the authority to make that decision on her own. I think the board should have voted on that decision, or at the very least, should have been notified about it when it happened. But I want to make sure that the community is aware of what happened. Attachments should be considered public documents. And, President Butel, I would like to request that you please forward me the emails where you made that request to administration.

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And so what I will just reply back on that, that it was not months, there were two meetings

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where they were included.

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That was never my understanding when we voted on that.

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You are correct.

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I should have sent a note out to everyone in regard to that.

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And as I had told you, we can speak to that at our July meeting to discuss what people would

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like to do.

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Madam President, I think making the decision on your own is really what the problem

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And was the board to know I did change what was happening, not the other way around.

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And I will say that I should have reviewed that initially and removed them.

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However, as I had told you, I have already read those.

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So often I do not review all of the comments in the packet a second time going through those.

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So that was my error in that to notify them at the beginning.

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But as I said, we can discuss that on July 31st at our meeting.

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We're moving on to agenda item 4.2.

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We currently had, we had two people who originally requested to be, to speak tonight.

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But at this point, one of those is not available.

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So we will have Ms. Pamela Olson if you will come to the microphone and just a reminder if you could talk about your relationship to the district and you have three minutes to speak.

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Thank you.

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And just one more thing, if anyone else is interested in requesting placement in the future,

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there is a form under the Board of Education on our website.

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And those requests are due by noon, three business days prior to our meeting,

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which would be a Wednesday for a Monday night meeting.

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Thank you.

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Mrs. Olson.

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Thank you.

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My name is Pamela Olson.

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I'm a Rochester Hills resident since 2006.

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I'm a retired advance placement science teacher.

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year. I wish you could see her smiling face. My lovely niece, a six-year-old girl, beaming

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after winning five blue ribbons for the track and field events at her 2023 school year field

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day. She is swift as the wind. Her face says, hope. Her mother and father are so happy

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for her. And so proud. Fast forward seven to eight years from now. Same young girl preparing for

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her middle school track and field day. She's worked so hard. A transgender boy walks into her locker

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room to use the toilet and change his clothes. Her face turns red. She feels ashamed. She loses her

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self-confidence, no blue ribbons that day. How is this even possible? We all know the answer.

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It's this board. The RCS Respect Code prohibits harassment and bullying the May 8th LGBTQ

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plus resolution promotes sex-based harassment of biological female students and athletes.

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The respect code promotes human dignity.

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This resolution reduces the dignity of biological female students.

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The respect code values everyone except the May 8 resolution values transgender students more.

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The respect code ensures safety for everyone but this resolution cannot provide safety

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for biological female students.

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Title IX does not support the board's actions

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that promote sex-based harassment, sexual assault,

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and sexual violence.

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The board's resolution to allow biological

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and sexually mature males into female locker rooms

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and bathrooms is a dangerous president

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that has already led to court.

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The very recent award of $125,000 from

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a Vermont school, to a local family who spoke out against a transgender student who was using his daughter's locker room.

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125,000 dollars, can we afford even one case like this?

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To conclude, we no longer can shake our heads in disbelief.

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The strongest action we can take now is to implement a sensible policy that doesn't sacrifice the amazing athletic rights.

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of biological female students, our girls.

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Thank you.

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Thank you very much.

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Now, agenda item 4.3 is the section where members of the Board of Education share

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communications that were shared directly with them and were not sent to the full board.

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Did any board member receive communication from the public?

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Mrs. Allspock.

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Dr. Allspock.

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I received a paper letter from Richard Bosler regarding him advocating for

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for a more faith-based education in our public schools.

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Mr. Wayne Leah, and I think this was actually a blind copy to the rest of the board, but it didn't come through contact the board.

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But I just wanted to bring that up.

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Email the board regarding LGBTQ and Ms. Dev Lotion emailed me regarding Thursday nice meetings.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Weaver, did you have anything?

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Ms. Scoopda?

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Yes, I received a message from Molly Crumbos expressing gratitude for the board and administrators Dave Murphy and Matt McDaniel.

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I received a message from Lori Baggett inquiring about my potential support for sex and gender ideology and a message from Karen Revenow expressing gratitude and request for swift action against trustee Weaver.

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And when we're done with individual reports, if you wouldn't mind Madam President, I do have a few to report that went to the whole board outside of the contact the board.

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Why don't you just go ahead and do it now.

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Okay, so the full board also received communication from Wayne Leila and Richard Basler regarding the LGBTQ resolution, Skytheten regarding gun storage safety education and Julie Stalker regarding literacy.

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I have a quick question before we continue.

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How is that any different than the ones that are sent to contact the board, they go to all of us?

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Because those, she didn't mention them during her report.

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They're the ones that are emailed, and so they're not included in the packet.

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So that's why she referenced who received them.

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Thank you.

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Mrs. LaCouille.

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Don Blanchett contacted me on June 6th to express support and thank me for representing kids and taxpayers on the board.

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And an RCS parent who prefers to remain nameless contacted me on June 15th to thank me and express support to share thoughts about parents' rights,

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to express surprise that the motion to add literacy on the agenda last meeting did not pass, and to express concern about dress codes,

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and express concern care for our schools and the children who go to them.

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This is bull.

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None that haven't already been mentioned.

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I also received a similar email sent from Lori Baggett as to my colleague Jessica Gupta.

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Also, an email of support from Karen Ravanaugh, and then also an email regarding the complaint

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hearing coming up against Trustee Weaver this Thursday, or yeah, from deathloten.

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I received three emails from Don Blanchett.

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One, requesting I evaluate my role as president, two, an email asking if the community is being represented.

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And three, her desire to have female students who fear transgender girls in bathrooms be represented, be represented.

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I received an email and a letter from Pam Olson regarding the LGBTQ plus resolution.

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I received an email of appreciation from Molly Crumbos for the board, as well as for Mr. McDaniel and Mr. Murphy.

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And an email from Lori Baggett regarding the meaning of sexuality and gender ideology.

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I also received an email from Karen Revena regarding her support and from Deviloten regarding complaint hearing logistics.

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Now moving on to agenda item 5.0, this is the consent agenda, all matters listed under

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the consent agenda are considered routine in nature by the Board of Education and will

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be acted upon by one motion.

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There will be no separate discussion of these items.

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If any member of the Board or any citizen requests discussion of item, that item will be removed

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from the consent agenda and will become the first item of business under the new business portion

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of the agenda.

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At this point, we have items 5.1, Board of Education Meeting Schedule for 22, I'm sorry, 2023, 2024, and item 5.2, Board of Education Regular Meeting Minutes from June 5th, 2023.

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Is there a motion to approve the consent agenda as presented?

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Move by the amendment?

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I'd actually like to remove one of the items.

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Okay, so you are in what would you like to remove?

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I'd like to remove item 5.1, please.

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Okay.

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So at this point is their emotion to approve item 5.2 as presented.

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Move by Mrs. Bowle, support by Mrs. Anis.

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Does anyone, Mrs. LaCouille?

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I'd like to remove item 5.2.

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Okay.

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Okay, well then at this point, 5.1 and 5.2 will become 7.1 and 7.2.

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So we have no consent agenda items at this point.

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All right, we have come to agenda item 6.0 report and first we have a report about honor

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community health and Mrs. Fragmenty, is this you?

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Yes, good evening.

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Thank you and I'd like to thank Mr. Jeff Cook.

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If you could please come to the microphone, he is the chairman of Honors Health and we invited him here this evening.

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Thank you for joining us.

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I'm going to give an overview of the partnership and

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the agreement that we would like to pursue and continue as President butel mentioned this began in 2019.

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And Honors Health has been instrumental throughout the pandemic to ensure that we are attending to the needs of our students.

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So thank you, Mr. Cook, for being available this evening.

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You're welcome.

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I wanted to speak just a little bit so the board has a little bit more information.

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And I know that President Butel gave you that this is an ongoing partnership that we have.

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The agreement adjustment is to move this program from heart middle school to west middle school in the 2023-2024 school year.

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This is designated specifically for mental health therapy, it's a one-to-one service with licensed master therapist for students ages 11 to 14.

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Parent consent is required for any youth under 14, and no medications are prescribed during these type of services, these are only for mental health services.

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Referrals are available to families along with insurances accepted and Medicaid is another availability to these services.

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So the request this evening is to have Mr. Cook be able to just give a brief hello and

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welcome all the services and for the Board of Education if you have questions on this ongoing partnership for the upcoming school year.

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Thank you Mr. Cook.

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You're welcome. Thank you Deb. So thank you school board members for allowing me to speak on behalf of honor community health. Again, my name is Jeff Cook Chief of Community Services. I'm in charge of all of our school based health centers among other departments. So we have an opportunity to provide a full time master level therapist who would be available to provide counseling mental health clinical counseling service.

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to students. This would be a year-round program, so this person would be available during

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the school year and during the summer. Monday through Friday, we have an opportunity

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for this person to provide therapy. Also, we can provide education to teachers and school

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staff surrounding anything about mental health and some general mental health information

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as well as prevention.

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We also have an opportunity to provide health education and prevention education to students

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if needed on top of the therapy services.

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Like Deb said, this service, if the family has health insurance, we will get consent to

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to build their insurance, if the parent doesn't want to give us consent, we will still provide

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that service. If they don't have insurance, we even have community health workers with

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an honor to be able to assist this family in applying for Medicaid. If they don't qualify

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for Medicaid, then we still provide that service. We also have an opportunity to provide support

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to teachers. So if any of the teachers have any questions surrounding mental health,

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general information, this therapist would be available to provide any information regarding mental health.

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We also, we can provide the therapy to students with

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Within the school, if we have an opportunity for students within that age range to come see the therapist, we can do that. It's been in my experience that the case load probably will be pretty heavy, so that opportunity might not present itself, but if it does, that opportunity will come. It is certainly up to the administration to allow

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how just students who attend the school to receive therapy, but there's an opportunity for other students to.

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So, if you have any questions, I'd be available to answer your questions.

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Are there questions from the board?

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Mrs. LeCoude?

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So you mentioned this was for ages 11 to 14 and kids under 14 require parental consent to participate.

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So just, so that means every student that participates in your program is required that they get parental consent before participating?

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Yes, so the, so any, the age group would be anybody under 14, yeah, yeah.

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If there's, if there's a situation in terms of an emergency, then let's say, for example, a student has suicidal thoughts or would be actively suicidal,

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is within the best interest of that student in terms of safety than that therapist would be available to do whatever it takes to counsel that student to prevent any harm to that student.

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So in any emergency situation that may present in the school, that consent rule kind of goes out the window just for the safety of that student.

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Mr. Weir, and all information is transparent to the parents as well, correct, all information, all the information?

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Well, we follow HIPAA, so we follow the HIPAA law, which is a federal health information law.

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The students, they do have the opportunity and the ability to consent on their own behalf, what is released to the parent.

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So, in the case of, let's say, for example, if there's any cases of possible abuse, if

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that student feels, and if that therapist feels like that student would be in danger,

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in terms of releasing that information to the parent, then it's our policy to make the

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The best decision, what is the best decision on the behalf of that student's safety?

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What is released?

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So just clarify, though, in that situation we have report laws.

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If a student is reporting that they're being abused, there's laws that require officials to report that to the government, obviously to protect the child.

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So I guess maybe I want to make sure to our parents, especially for these select schools where this service exists.

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If they are consenting to allow their student to have the service because their consent is required,

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they're also, they borderline consenting information can be withheld from them.

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They just, so I want to make sure our parents know what they are consenting to by allowing students to use your services.

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So, they're consenting for the therapist to provide counseling services to their child.

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Like I said before, in the event if there are some issues such as abuse, obviously we follow the abuse.

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we would report that to CPS, but if there's information in that record that is disclosed

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in a therapy session, that would possibly put that child at harm.

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If that information were to be disclosed to the parent, let's say the parent requested

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a medical record, then what we would do, we would not release that information due to the fact

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that could that information could put that child in harm?

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I follow a question then.

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What standard does your organization use to decide what could put a student in harm?

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I mean, I want to make sure, again, our parents know what they're consenting towards.

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What could be shared what?

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What is the standard when you or staff would say, nope, that could put a student in harm.

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Therefore, now we're not sharing it with the parent.

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Yeah, so it's information that would, you know, for example, any abuse information,

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any information that, let's say they may be accused the parent of doing something.

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It's anything that, you know, anything that the decision comes from our Medical Records Department,

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which is overseen by our Medical Director of Honor.

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So, between the two, they would decide, along with our chief operating officer,

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who is a licensed psychologist, they would make that decision on whether or not they should

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release that information. So it's truly professional on behalf of our medical directors.

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And I'm just curious, when will you be moving to West?

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Yeah, so we are in the process of obtaining approval. Once we get an official approval, then

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And then we would, we already received a verbal approval through the state of Michigan, our Michigan Department of Health and Human Services.

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Once we get the official approval from the board and your superintendent, then we would submit that amended interagency agreement.

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The state would like us to provide some data in terms of to show need, which I already have through your MIFI and

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through other results to show need for mental health, I would put together that packet.

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We would send that approval packet to the state.

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Again they already gave me the verbal approval as long as I send that information.

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They will approve the move from heart.

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And then the process, we are in the, also the process is submitting our request and approval

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through HRSA, and that's our federal partners at the federal level.

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So we're looking at probably over the next couple months to receive official approval.

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And then it takes probably about a month to find a licensed therapist that would be a

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great fit.

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Again, the administration would have an opportunity at West to participate in interviews and

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and to locate and find a qualified professional.

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And I guess I have another follow-up question on that.

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Any students that were utilizing your services at heart,

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what happens to them

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and are they able to continue getting services?

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Yeah, yes.

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So they do have an opportunity to go to West

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and receive those services if needed,

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if they would like, it's truly optional.

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So that is open to them, yeah.

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Okay, thank you.

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Are there any other questions?

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I have another question.

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Mister, you know what?

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Did you have one as well?

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Mrs. Scoopda?

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Yeah, just one question.

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What is the reason for the move?

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Like what it's underlying rationale?

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Yeah.

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Well, I'm new to honor.

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So I joined the honors team in mid-February.

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I came from Beaumont Health.

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I ran 16 school based cell centers through Beaumont.

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I did not get a direct answer from the administration at heart, attempted to set up some meetings

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to learn how we could remain at heart and that decision was made to not continue at heart.

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Again, I never got a direct answer, some of the answers second hand was that the therapist

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this was pulled away too many days from heart for meetings called in sick a lot I heard.

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So again, that was never a direct answer.

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So moving forward with me taking over in February, I am very passionate about making sure this

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therapist is available every day, Monday through Friday, there may be an occasional meeting

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that might have to go to, but the priority will be that this person will be available to the students to provide services.

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That's like 99% of their job.

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So,

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Mr. Weaver, did you have another question?

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I did.

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So I just want to make sure, again, I fully understand the service that you're providing and ultimately are community understands.

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So the service you're providing is individual, or counseling, and then also you said something about some teaching for our educators, is that correct?

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Yes, so it will be clinical therapy evidence base therapy, it's truly a clinical program.

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So the students and the therapists will develop goals and objectives based on a comprehensive assessment, a psychosocial assessment that will be conducted by the third visit.

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But based on those meetings, the students and therapists will develop a plan of action.

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And then therapy services, it just depends on the need.

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There could be one session, it could be five sessions, it could be 20 sessions.

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So most of the service will be one to one.

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We do have an opportunity if there's need for the therapist to run support groups with

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the students if there's need there.

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And then also the therapist is available to the teachers to help educate your teachers, support staff, administration about mental health in general.

435
00:40:06,130 --> 00:40:18,150
It's very typical that this therapist will educate the teachers and the staff what's the difference between maybe a typical adolescent and maybe a troubled adolescent.

436
00:40:18,150 --> 00:40:30,630
So, it's a good opportunity to provide some education to the teachers and staff if you guys wish and more schools that were in, they do take advantage of that opportunity.

437
00:40:31,210 --> 00:40:42,290
Sometimes we'll be able to do a professional development so the therapist can do an educational session and count that as maybe a PD session.

438
00:40:42,290 --> 00:40:43,990
And also one on one, too.

439
00:40:44,130 --> 00:40:48,450
So if a teacher comes up to the therapist and asks him or her,

440
00:40:48,590 --> 00:40:51,830
maybe some mental health information general,

441
00:40:52,210 --> 00:40:55,150
then that therapist will be available to provide that to him.

442
00:40:56,430 --> 00:40:59,530
One thing that we want to make sure everybody understands

443
00:40:59,530 --> 00:41:01,950
is that we operate under HIPAA.

444
00:41:02,490 --> 00:41:07,230
So the only way that information can be released

445
00:41:08,030 --> 00:41:10,310
is if it's an emergency situation.

446
00:41:10,310 --> 00:41:26,110
So if a student is in crisis and his or her life is in danger, obviously that information will be passed on to the administration if an ambulance has to be called, if the parent has to be called in to a mental health emergency.

447
00:41:26,850 --> 00:41:37,550
But anything other than that, the only way that information can be released is if that parent or guardian signs a release for us to release that information.

448
00:41:38,830 --> 00:41:40,830
That information would then be released.

449
00:41:41,270 --> 00:41:44,850
So other than that, everything is kept confidential.

450
00:41:45,710 --> 00:41:50,410
Does your staff take part in organizing what some people would probably call subjective?

451
00:41:50,830 --> 00:41:55,630
Like anti-bullying movements, encouraging kids to wear same color shirts, movements taking pledges.

452
00:41:55,910 --> 00:41:56,930
Things of that nature in the schools?

453
00:41:57,810 --> 00:42:06,590
No, I mean, we would be available during parent teacher conference to maybe have a booth to be available to the parents to talk to them about

454
00:42:06,590 --> 00:42:14,230
general mental health, but we're not really allowed to organize or participate in any

455
00:42:14,230 --> 00:42:16,610
kind of campaign related stuff.

456
00:42:17,350 --> 00:42:25,110
We would certainly work with the administration and very closely to develop a really working

457
00:42:25,110 --> 00:42:27,450
relationship to do what's best for the students.

458
00:42:32,920 --> 00:42:38,740
If I may add as well, as we were looking at this partnership with Honors Health, as you

459
00:42:38,740 --> 00:42:42,600
We were called, we've recently added the additional behavioral therapists.

460
00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:48,080
And the counselors, we have an additional social worker team coming forward.

461
00:42:48,420 --> 00:42:57,280
We felt that we could work closely with the therapists to do a train, the trainer model, to expand that teaching and exploring that learning.

462
00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:03,060
And based on feedback from our staff members, they are definitely very

463
00:43:03,060 --> 00:43:09,360
We are essentially interested in moving forward to understand, to seek to understand.

464
00:43:09,820 --> 00:43:18,340
We spend time on our compliance to ensure that we understand what to look for when we need to call CPS,

465
00:43:18,900 --> 00:43:20,620
when the carehouse is required.

466
00:43:21,220 --> 00:43:26,300
But this is an opportunity to be very proactive to build in that partnership,

467
00:43:27,180 --> 00:43:32,440
along with the biggest benefit would be for those students who would benefit from a clinician.

468
00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:33,840
Thank you, Jeff.

469
00:43:34,300 --> 00:43:34,900
Yeah, you're welcome.

470
00:43:37,480 --> 00:43:45,800
All right, well, at this point, what you have in your packet was that we are looking to amend the original agreement,

471
00:43:45,800 --> 00:43:55,560
which I think I had said 2019, but it was effective January 1st, 2021, and there are two items that would be amended on that.

472
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:23,620
The first one is the location moving from Hart Middle School to West Middle School, and then the second one is additional language that says in the event this agreement is discontinued by either party or expires the honor community health Rochester West Middle School E3 therapist caseload patients will be transferred to one of the existing honor community health child and adolescent health centers.

473
00:44:23,620 --> 00:44:32,160
For example, Avondale, Waterford, Durant, Pontiac, Middle School, or Pontiac High School.

474
00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:36,280
The students and or parent guardians will be given a choice and options.

475
00:44:37,100 --> 00:44:41,080
So those are the only two things that we're voting on at this time.

476
00:44:41,820 --> 00:44:45,920
So is there a motion to approve the amendment as presented?

477
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:54,780
Moved by Mrs. Anis, support by Mrs. Bull, is there any discussion on this item?

478
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:55,620
Mr. Weaver.

479
00:44:56,820 --> 00:44:59,920
I do have some concerns, just looking up.

480
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,940
This organization, one of their highlights is highlighting heart middle school celebrated unity day and hopes to stamp out bullying. It's an anti-bullying campaign. It looks like there had some kind of active role in that, so that concerns me with what we just heard. So I just think that's something that's relative to our community needs to know. I will not be supporting that, because again, when directly asked if they are involved in things like this, the answer was no. But clearly it's something they're highlighting right on their website.

481
00:45:29,940 --> 00:45:33,700
Is there a role that they've played in an anti-bullying campaign?

482
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:37,700
And basically what we've seen over the last two and a half, three years.

483
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:42,840
Our board and districts understanding what the word bullying is is definitely in question.

484
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:46,500
So again, I just think that's relevant information for everyone to know.

485
00:45:49,060 --> 00:45:53,660
Yeah, so that was the prior administration.

486
00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:59,380
So with me taken over, it is imperative that

487
00:45:59,380 --> 00:46:06,760
that any participation that the therapist partakes in, that he or she needs to get approval

488
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:09,340
from the administration at West.

489
00:46:10,140 --> 00:46:17,500
So I value very highly that collaborative relationship that we have currently and that

490
00:46:17,500 --> 00:46:18,360
we will have.

491
00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:28,440
So that will be clear that any initiative that the therapist would like to do, that or any

492
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:34,740
any program, any support program, that has to be approved by the West Administration.

493
00:46:35,800 --> 00:46:35,860
So.

494
00:46:36,460 --> 00:46:37,100
Thank you.

495
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,840
Any other comments on the board?

496
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:41,880
Are there any comments from the public?

497
00:46:42,580 --> 00:46:43,820
I see a hand.

498
00:46:56,140 --> 00:46:56,620
Good evening.

499
00:46:56,800 --> 00:46:57,560
Michelle Manhire.

500
00:46:58,460 --> 00:47:00,840
Three kids in the district.

501
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:10,160
I know I only have three minutes and I want to fill it with three minutes of please.

502
00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:21,900
stop this push for getting between families and their kids. School is for

503
00:47:21,900 --> 00:47:30,240
schooling educating our children. I have three children who have all had need

504
00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,740
for a therapist in one way or another to be evaluated, to be treated,

505
00:47:37,820 --> 00:47:40,140
to be

506
00:47:40,140 --> 00:47:54,040
with anybody in the district for a reason, school is school, and my family's head, mental health, heart, spirit, etc.

507
00:47:55,120 --> 00:48:04,940
are our family's responsibility. This action was taken with very little knowledge of the district.

508
00:48:04,940 --> 00:48:11,080
I happened to really follow what's going on in the district, and all of a sudden we've got, well,

509
00:48:11,360 --> 00:48:16,700
there's a health clinic at Rochester High School, which by the way, nobody's been addressing that.

510
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:18,760
The contract says Rochester High School, too.

511
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,060
Does this not apply to Rochester High School?

512
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:26,160
This amendment that you're talking about is in fact just to change the middle schools that are happening.

513
00:48:26,660 --> 00:48:33,220
But on the paperwork that was in the packet, it said that the contract also states it's Rochester High School.

514
00:48:33,220 --> 00:48:38,560
So I guess I need clarification as to whether it's both of them or not because that's well over 14 years old

515
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:43,100
And then you are a parents never going to know a darn thing

516
00:48:44,640 --> 00:48:50,000
Anybody coming in they don't already evidently have somebody and he's hoping to find somebody

517
00:48:50,700 --> 00:48:53,020
We can't find social workers

518
00:48:53,680 --> 00:48:55,200
People can't find

519
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,900
Clinical therapists

520
00:48:58,140 --> 00:48:58,660
Psychiatrists

521
00:48:58,660 --> 00:49:03,860
psychologists because of the amount of people that are requiring these kinds of services.

522
00:49:04,460 --> 00:49:09,440
They're likely going to get somebody who's either retired or somebody who's brand new.

523
00:49:10,240 --> 00:49:19,490
My family personally attended a or participated in a practice that had new and seasoned therapists,

524
00:49:20,510 --> 00:49:26,710
a not seasoned therapist, assumed something about something one of my children said and

525
00:49:26,710 --> 00:49:35,610
and set a SHIT storm of quite a sour family's way because of her inexperience and not having

526
00:49:35,610 --> 00:49:37,190
a relationship with my family.

527
00:49:38,930 --> 00:49:42,450
Any kind of counseling is about relationship, period.

528
00:49:44,030 --> 00:49:50,350
If you're hoping to provide this wonderful supportive service to our kids, it sure as heck

529
00:49:50,350 --> 00:49:53,370
is not somebody who happens to be in the school this year.

530
00:49:53,890 --> 00:49:59,370
And then if the people, when I change it to another location, they're going to, you know, maybe get services.

531
00:49:59,710 --> 00:50:02,250
It's about relationship, thank you.

532
00:50:08,900 --> 00:50:13,460
All right, so we have a motion to approve the amendment and present it.

533
00:50:14,020 --> 00:50:14,380
I'm sorry.

534
00:50:16,240 --> 00:50:16,820
Go ahead.

535
00:50:17,140 --> 00:50:17,840
I'll be real quick.

536
00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:20,380
My name is Jenny Walch.

537
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,060
I have children, one child's still in the district.

538
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,700
She goes here to Rochester High School, she uses a community mental health.

539
00:50:26,700 --> 00:50:32,720
She loves it. It has been a lifesaver for her, for her mental health. She feels better.

540
00:50:33,100 --> 00:50:43,700
It has really helped her with the racial slurs that she experienced multiple times during the school year and some other problems.

541
00:50:44,220 --> 00:50:51,080
When she, I can always tell when she has had a chat with a counselor, I don't need to know what they're chatting about.

542
00:50:51,580 --> 00:50:53,100
They're chatting. And it's great.

543
00:50:53,100 --> 00:50:56,740
more people chatting with my daughter, giving her positive feedback,

544
00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,480
helping her through live her best life, the better.

545
00:51:00,900 --> 00:51:01,260
Thank you.

546
00:51:04,860 --> 00:51:05,580
Thank you.

547
00:51:06,900 --> 00:51:09,180
All right, we have a motion.

548
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,780
Madam President, I do have a follow-up question.

549
00:51:10,980 --> 00:51:13,140
What school is this resource at?

550
00:51:14,060 --> 00:51:19,200
As you saw in what you received, the original was for Rochester High School and

551
00:51:19,860 --> 00:51:23,140
heart, and this is a change from heart to west.

552
00:51:23,380 --> 00:51:25,140
So it's at Rochester High School and west.

553
00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:25,240
Yes.

554
00:51:25,740 --> 00:51:26,260
Okay, so.

555
00:51:26,560 --> 00:51:26,820
Thank you.

556
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:28,340
All right.

557
00:51:28,620 --> 00:51:30,140
So we have a motion to-

558
00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:36,640
So students over 14 years old who are at Rochester High School, there's no parental consent

559
00:51:36,640 --> 00:51:39,260
required for those students to use the services, right?

560
00:51:39,640 --> 00:51:40,820
Mr. Cook, could you answer that?

561
00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:50,920
So, per state, mental health code, anybody, any minor between ages of 14 and 17, they do

562
00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:54,060
You have the ability to consent for care on their own.

563
00:51:54,860 --> 00:52:00,360
It is based on the judgment of the therapist and the provider.

564
00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:12,040
The provider doesn't have to honor that if they feel that the child isn't able to make that decision on their own.

565
00:52:12,040 --> 00:52:23,820
But it is the public health code that any student 14 to 17 can consent up to 12 therapy sessions or four months of therapy.

566
00:52:24,860 --> 00:52:36,460
If they require additional therapy on the 13th session or the four month and one day, then they are required to obtain parental consent from their or guardian consent.

567
00:52:36,460 --> 00:52:47,300
that. That is true at any public or private mental health organization, they could go

568
00:52:47,300 --> 00:52:51,220
anywhere and they would have to follow that same public health code.

569
00:52:53,140 --> 00:53:03,550
Thank you. All right, so at this point we have a motion to approve the amendment to the

570
00:53:03,550 --> 00:53:09,930
agreement, it was moved and supported, so all of those in favor, please say aye.

571
00:53:10,430 --> 00:53:10,990
Aye.

572
00:53:11,750 --> 00:53:12,270
Opposed?

573
00:53:13,190 --> 00:53:14,590
That's a 6-1,

574
00:53:16,950 --> 00:53:22,630
that's a 5-1-1 vote, the motion passes.

575
00:53:25,550 --> 00:53:30,530
Now we have, we're moving on to agenda item 6.2, thank you, Mr. Cook.

576
00:53:31,190 --> 00:53:36,710
That is a technology security report and I think is Ms. Lindner coming up for that.

577
00:53:36,710 --> 00:53:37,570
Well,

578
00:53:53,660 --> 00:53:59,500
hello and good evening ladies and gentlemen, President butel and esteemed members of the Board of Education.

579
00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:05,760
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak with you today before I begin to speak with you today.

580
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:12,920
Before I begin discussing the important topic of technology security for our students, I'd like to share a heartwarming personal story.

581
00:54:13,420 --> 00:54:19,060
This past Saturday my son graduated from Kettering University after five years of hard work and dedication.

582
00:54:19,060 --> 00:54:23,840
It was a proud moment for our family, and it made me reflect on the significance of

583
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,900
education in shaping our lives.

584
00:54:27,170 --> 00:54:32,120
The commencement address was delivered by Paul Baskelberg, a successful alumni of

585
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:37,000
Kettering University, and the president of Rooters, a renowned global news organization.

586
00:54:37,720 --> 00:54:42,680
He shared his career journey emphasizing the importance of both successes and failures

587
00:54:42,680 --> 00:54:43,920
in shaping our paths.

588
00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:49,140
This reflection combined with my own son's graduation led me to contemplate two thoughts

589
00:54:49,140 --> 00:54:51,020
that I believe are relevant to our discussion.

590
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:57,280
The first thought is that success is the echo of service we have given to others.

591
00:54:59,140 --> 00:55:03,440
These words highlight the spirit of service that drives many of us in the field of education

592
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:05,480
and on the board of education.

593
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:12,520
In the spirit of service, not ego or agenda or money, but the spirit of service that we serve

594
00:55:12,520 --> 00:55:18,140
for our students by protecting education, guiding them, providing an educational experience

595
00:55:18,140 --> 00:55:23,300
filled with learning, growth, acceptance, exploration, and opportunity, and creating

596
00:55:23,300 --> 00:55:26,260
an environment supported by love, hope, and inspiration.

597
00:55:27,800 --> 00:55:33,600
Technological advancements have revolutionized education, providing students with unprecedented

598
00:55:33,600 --> 00:55:38,960
access to information, collaborative opportunities, and interactive learning experiences.

599
00:55:38,960 --> 00:55:45,700
The Internet has opened up vast repositories of knowledge, virtual discussions, and educational

600
00:55:45,700 --> 00:55:48,420
resources for from around the world.

601
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:54,020
However, along with these opportunities, technology also exposes our children to online

602
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:58,740
dangers such as cyberbullying, inappropriate content, and online predators.

603
00:55:59,760 --> 00:56:03,760
As Spider-Man wisely said, with great power comes great responsibility.

604
00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:18,780
June is Online Safety Month and a great reminder of the shared responsibility we all have to actively address online safety and equip our students with the necessary tools to navigate the digital landscape responsibly and safely.

605
00:56:20,140 --> 00:56:30,380
Online Safety is not solely the responsibility of educational institutions. It extends to personal accountability and good digital citizenship in all aspects of our life.

606
00:56:30,380 --> 00:56:35,860
As individuals with the spirit of service and mind, we must continuously educate ourselves,

607
00:56:36,600 --> 00:56:41,160
adapt to new technologies, and promote healthy digital interactions for our children.

608
00:56:42,420 --> 00:56:49,840
The second meaningful thought from Mr. Baskuber was to feed your mind with information that hasn't been processed.

609
00:56:51,000 --> 00:56:57,340
This idea reminds us of the importance of seeking diverse perspectives and being critical consumers of information.

610
00:56:57,340 --> 00:57:04,400
By fostering good digital citizenship, responsible online behavior, critical thinking, and privacy

611
00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:09,620
protection, we ensure that our students understand the significance of their digital footprint

612
00:57:09,980 --> 00:57:13,140
and how it can impact their lives and the lives of others.

613
00:57:14,200 --> 00:57:18,320
Rochester Community Schools recognizes the developmental stages of students throughout

614
00:57:18,320 --> 00:57:24,300
grades K through 12 and provides content from common sense digital citizenship in a development-elemently

615
00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:25,220
appropriate manner.

616
00:57:25,220 --> 00:57:39,820
Resources for families compiled by our instructional technology specialist Rachel Manero can be found on the RCS website under technology services, family technology support, and specifically the digital citizenship section.

617
00:57:40,340 --> 00:57:45,660
The Common Sense website also provides helpful resources for families seeking guidance in this area.

618
00:57:46,480 --> 00:57:52,400
I want to take a moment to address a recent incident that occurred during the last board meeting, board of education meeting.

619
00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:58,400
The information presented regarding technology access for students was processed and then

620
00:57:58,400 --> 00:58:04,080
provided in a manner that distorted the facts, spread misinformation and questioned the

621
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,940
credibility of our technology team.

622
00:58:06,740 --> 00:58:11,860
While constructive feedback and valuable insights are always welcome, it is important to differentiate

623
00:58:11,860 --> 00:58:15,960
them from basis claims that only serve to so discord and mistrust.

624
00:58:15,960 --> 00:58:24,820
The information being shared tonight serves to provide an accurate representation of online safety measures currently in place for our students.

625
00:58:26,060 --> 00:58:29,920
Rochester Community School's commitment to technology security is unwavering.

626
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:41,640
In addition to digital citizenship, we have multiple layers of security measures that have been in place for years to safeguard our network, systems, data, and the online safety of our students and staff.

627
00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:47,720
The first layer of access, the first layer of security is access control.

628
00:58:48,380 --> 00:58:52,500
It is easy to block everything or allow everything.

629
00:58:52,760 --> 00:58:55,760
However, that doesn't protect our children or support learning.

630
00:58:56,480 --> 00:59:01,280
Therefore, we have a decision tree of factors that is evaluated to determine the level of

631
00:59:01,280 --> 00:59:02,720
access to grant to students.

632
00:59:03,300 --> 00:59:10,020
Considering factors such as the type of account, the students' school and grade level, the

633
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:14,900
device being used the date and time, whether they are on the RCS network and more.

634
00:59:15,940 --> 00:59:21,640
This granular access approach helps us to balance security while supporting the delivery

635
00:59:21,640 --> 00:59:24,120
and use of online instructional content.

636
00:59:25,000 --> 00:59:28,520
The next layer is the content filter which supports Internet safety.

637
00:59:28,620 --> 00:59:29,080
Mrs. Linder.

638
00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:29,700
Yes.

639
00:59:30,660 --> 00:59:34,000
I think you have a PowerPoint but it's not showing.

640
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,140
No, I don't.

641
00:59:35,260 --> 00:59:35,640
Oh you don't.

642
00:59:35,740 --> 00:59:35,940
Okay.

643
00:59:36,700 --> 00:59:37,260
No PowerPoint.

644
00:59:38,620 --> 00:59:38,900
Yeah.

645
00:59:38,900 --> 00:59:45,580
The next layer is the content filter which supports Internet safety by limiting or blocking access based on explicit content,

646
00:59:46,180 --> 00:59:49,960
website URLs, and categories in YouTube categories and keywords.

647
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:59,960
Additionally, with the move to one-to-one devices for students, another security layer was added to extend the protections outlined above to student Chromebooks when they're

648
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,600
We are not on the RCS network. The final layer available only on the RCS network is a firewall

649
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:11,940
that provides content filtering and many other security features. Our security controls,

650
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:17,720
equipment, software processes are always changing to protect against new cybersecurity threats.

651
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:23,080
We also that new student technology requests using an instructional technology approval process.

652
01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:29,760
Cricklem uses this process to bring forward requests for access to software, extensions URL and

653
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:34,320
online resources. Anything brought forward goes through a compliance and an environmental

654
01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:39,760
readiness evaluation. Part of this evaluation includes looking at the software and hardware

655
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:45,100
requirements, reviewing terms of service and privacy policies, compliance requirements

656
01:00:45,100 --> 01:00:49,820
with SIPPA-CAPA and FERPA, and review for malicious software and inappropriate content.

657
01:00:49,820 --> 01:00:53,640
The firewall and content filters have been configured based on civic

658
01:00:53,640 --> 01:00:57,900
guidelines and curriculum needs. Additionally, we work closely with various

659
01:00:57,900 --> 01:01:01,960
organizations that actively monitor and communicate cyber security threats and

660
01:01:01,960 --> 01:01:09,140
alerts, such as MC3, CISA, FBI SciWatch, and K126. These organizations provide

661
01:01:09,140 --> 01:01:12,200
security best practices and procedures to mitigate threats.

662
01:01:13,620 --> 01:01:18,760
Even with the extensive measures taken to protect the online safety of our students,

663
01:01:18,760 --> 01:01:24,660
It is important to acknowledge that access to online, the online world is not without

664
01:01:24,660 --> 01:01:29,820
risks, and that complete protection from inappropriate content and network security

665
01:01:29,820 --> 01:01:31,660
breaches cannot be guaranteed.

666
01:01:32,500 --> 01:01:38,380
Bad actors and cyber criminals were daily to exploit vulnerabilities and target innocent

667
01:01:38,380 --> 01:01:40,080
individuals including children.

668
01:01:40,780 --> 01:01:45,840
The methods employed by malicious actors and cyber criminals include using advanced techniques

669
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,600
like fishing, ransomware attacks, and social engineering.

670
01:01:49,300 --> 01:01:51,120
Even companies like Facebook and Google

671
01:01:51,120 --> 01:01:53,980
change their content in security settings without notice

672
01:01:53,980 --> 01:01:56,680
and new content is allowed for student access.

673
01:01:57,740 --> 01:01:59,680
We bring awareness to parents and students

674
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:01,840
of these risks through the student access

675
01:02:01,840 --> 01:02:05,160
to online inappropriate material, assumptions of risk

676
01:02:05,160 --> 01:02:07,720
by parent, section of the technology use agreement.

677
01:02:08,280 --> 01:02:10,320
We also rely on the collaborative efforts

678
01:02:10,320 --> 01:02:14,460
and partnership of parents, students, staff, board members,

679
01:02:14,460 --> 01:02:17,940
and the community to help maintain a safe online environment.

680
01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,620
We encourage you to reach out and say something

681
01:02:20,620 --> 01:02:23,680
if you see inappropriate content being accessed by your student

682
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:25,600
on their district issued Chromebook.

683
01:02:26,180 --> 01:02:28,960
Please consider being fully transparent with the details

684
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:33,020
so that we can take quick action to secure online access for students,

685
01:02:33,540 --> 01:02:35,960
mitigate risk and fill gaps in security.

686
01:02:36,640 --> 01:02:39,100
In conclusion, as we commemorate Jack's graduation

687
01:02:39,100 --> 01:02:40,880
and observe online safety month,

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01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:42,740
let us reaffirm our commitment

689
01:02:42,740 --> 01:02:46,100
and to protecting the online safety of our K-12 students.

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01:02:46,480 --> 01:02:48,080
Together, we can empower our children

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01:02:48,080 --> 01:02:49,420
to make the most of the internet

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01:02:49,420 --> 01:02:51,980
while being responsible digital citizens.

693
01:02:52,460 --> 01:02:55,580
Let us remain vigilant, informed, and work collaboratively

694
01:02:55,580 --> 01:02:58,480
to secure online the online environment for all.

695
01:02:59,260 --> 01:03:01,660
Thank you for your attention and please stay safe online.

696
01:03:05,210 --> 01:03:05,710
Thank you.

697
01:03:06,270 --> 01:03:08,650
Were there any questions at this time from Mrs. Linder?

698
01:03:10,700 --> 01:03:12,660
Mrs. Linder, in the name of transparency,

699
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,880
do you want to acknowledge that when you ask the questions

700
01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:19,500
for the details that I did specifically provide information to you.

701
01:03:19,660 --> 01:03:24,260
I asked why you were looking for some of the information, because it did seem very much you were looking for the who,

702
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:30,660
not the why the student was able, why the laptop was able to access porn via YouTube.

703
01:03:31,560 --> 01:03:36,400
I explained specifically why I was asking the questions, because we do have a track record of retaliation.

704
01:03:36,940 --> 01:03:39,600
And it very much seemed like the questions were looking to identify who.

705
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:41,820
And there was no response from you.

706
01:03:41,820 --> 01:03:58,120
Can you explain why and walk us through the problem solving process and how you use that information that is more identified to the who versus why porn was allowed to be accessed on a third grade Chromebook?

707
01:03:58,520 --> 01:04:00,440
I would be delighted to explain that.

708
01:04:01,080 --> 01:04:09,340
So as I mentioned, there is a decision tree of factors that we consider in order to grant access to a student which was provided in multiple communications.

709
01:04:09,340 --> 01:04:15,660
It was trustee Weaver continued to ask the same questions over and over and disregarding

710
01:04:15,660 --> 01:04:17,180
the information that had been provided.

711
01:04:17,560 --> 01:04:22,440
If a student has access versus a staff member, those are different levels of access and

712
01:04:22,440 --> 01:04:24,800
you get to access different resources on our network.

713
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:30,580
If the student is at home, there is less security because the firewall is not in place at their

714
01:04:30,580 --> 01:04:30,840
home.

715
01:04:31,420 --> 01:04:35,840
We have different content that's available to a high school student versus an elementary student.

716
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,940
We have different access controls for appropriate age levels in YouTube.

717
01:04:40,340 --> 01:04:45,700
We have different access controls for keywords, categories, word searches, by grade level,

718
01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:46,360
by school.

719
01:04:46,860 --> 01:04:52,920
So if we don't know any of that information, all we know is that inappropriate content was

720
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:53,260
accessed.

721
01:04:53,700 --> 01:04:55,520
We don't even know when it was accessed.

722
01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:59,020
It could have been accessed a year ago, and we're going on a wild goose chase.

723
01:04:59,820 --> 01:05:05,660
So we asked to partner and help our investigation by providing details and

724
01:05:05,660 --> 01:05:10,380
transparencies. I don't care who it is. We want to secure the online safety of

725
01:05:10,380 --> 01:05:15,840
our students. That was our priority. And in order to do that we needed details

726
01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:22,020
that were not provided. After giving you detail after detail about our network

727
01:05:22,020 --> 01:05:25,560
and our security practices. So you're saying I did not turn over that it was a

728
01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:30,820
third grader. So, no, let me take a second back. Tell me why access at one elementary school

729
01:05:30,820 --> 01:05:33,940
would be different than another elementary school. That doesn't make sense to me. Please explain that.

730
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:38,380
Madam President, I don't really think that we should allow for this line of questioning against

731
01:05:38,380 --> 01:05:43,500
one of our vice presidents. Madam President, you and our acting superintendent chose to put this

732
01:05:43,500 --> 01:05:48,520
on the agenda which was directly to refute what was going on. If they are going to do that,

733
01:05:48,660 --> 01:05:53,300
we're going to have that conversation and I will be glad to release all the emails that were sent

734
01:05:53,300 --> 01:05:57,300
to be completely transparent with our community about this statement.

735
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:02,160
There was very specific questions being asked around why students were asked to,

736
01:06:02,240 --> 01:06:05,260
why students were being able to access porn on their laptop.

737
01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,420
I did answer the questions and I did explain the retaliation from.

738
01:06:09,480 --> 01:06:21,220
So for the PR stunt, today is ridiculous in a waste of time and I would please ask you to start setting the agenda to address the issues and stop with this PR stunt.

739
01:06:22,280 --> 01:06:37,140
This is not a PR stunt, this is the ability to provide valuable and accurate information to our community after you proceeded to provide information at the last meeting that you deemed as fact.

740
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:50,940
So we, the district, is attempting to set that straight by informing the community of what is being done as well as the potential risks anytime someone uses an electronic device.

741
01:06:50,940 --> 01:06:57,220
community. I will make it all transparent to you how the communication happened and how the answers were not given. This is a complete joke.

742
01:06:58,480 --> 01:07:01,680
And community, I will reference the information that was provided.

743
01:07:02,460 --> 01:07:03,880
Filters are based on grade level.

744
01:07:04,840 --> 01:07:09,920
Filters allow applications like Google features that are requested by curriculum for instructional needs by grade level.

745
01:07:10,660 --> 01:07:14,620
On the RCS network, there are layers of security outside the RCS network.

746
01:07:14,800 --> 01:07:20,000
Security can be limited and we have no control over residential or locational firewall options.

747
01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:24,340
even with filtering, if the content is not categorized correctly,

748
01:07:24,840 --> 01:07:26,080
then access may be allowed.

749
01:07:26,740 --> 01:07:30,800
Students can get around filters by using personal cell phone and data plans

750
01:07:30,800 --> 01:07:32,180
to access any content.

751
01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:37,340
We are not able to filter their cellular data plan and their searches.

752
01:07:37,880 --> 01:07:44,040
Students also find hacks to bypass filters which are patched as we are alerted and they are reported.

753
01:07:44,680 --> 01:07:48,720
Email and content filters are not able to scan pictures to block inappropriate content.

754
01:07:48,720 --> 01:07:54,220
On the RCS network, non-RCS accounts are not restricted via our filtering but are restricted

755
01:07:54,220 --> 01:07:57,620
via our firewall and additional in-district security layer.

756
01:07:58,240 --> 01:08:03,680
Staff, teacher, substitute, and student teachers accounts have a different level of access

757
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:08,980
on the network to systems, servers, resources, the internet, YouTube, etc.

758
01:08:09,840 --> 01:08:15,500
As outlined in these general details related to network security and accessing content, yes,

759
01:08:15,500 --> 01:08:22,180
Access levels do change based on time of day, grade level, building, location, and account.

760
01:08:22,880 --> 01:08:28,980
Therefore, as in this case, there are many variables to consider in order for us to ensure safety online.

761
01:08:29,760 --> 01:08:34,560
Transparency provides important details that will help us effectively dive into the data,

762
01:08:35,200 --> 01:08:41,340
determine how the content was categorized in access, and identify and resolve any gaps in our security.

763
01:08:41,340 --> 01:08:51,500
In summary, there are many layers of security based on different factors as outlined above and a school level review was not completed to provide details.

764
01:08:51,960 --> 01:09:03,140
Therefore, please provide additional information so that technology services can examine the symptoms further, determine if there are gaps in our security and take appropriate corrective actions.

765
01:09:03,140 --> 01:09:04,220
Mrs.

766
01:09:06,940 --> 01:09:08,440
Bull, I'm sorry, Mrs. Anis.

767
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:15,300
I just want to comment that additionally, I want to thank Cindy and her team for

768
01:09:15,300 --> 01:09:23,120
providing in our weekly board newsletter, extensive information about network and security

769
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,140
access for students.

770
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:36,580
And I would ask that perhaps the weekly community correspondence that goes out, that this

771
01:09:36,580 --> 01:09:43,220
information be provided to our parent community, because I think it's a really good overview

772
01:09:43,220 --> 01:09:49,020
and pretty comprehensive on, you know, breaking down exactly what you just said Cindy, and I

773
01:09:49,020 --> 01:09:57,140
I appreciate your effort to not only help inform the board, but also coming to the board table this evening and sharing more.

774
01:09:57,360 --> 01:09:57,660
Thank you.

775
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:58,360
Absolutely.

776
01:09:58,960 --> 01:10:05,200
And trustee Weaver's response to that email was, Miss Fragmanian, Miss Lindner, can speak for themselves.

777
01:10:05,620 --> 01:10:09,200
So there is no need for you to imply what you know when it's documented in the email.

778
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,560
They are welcome to explain why the information they asked for is needed.

779
01:10:13,980 --> 01:10:16,600
As I have clearly explained why it does not seem relevant.

780
01:10:16,600 --> 01:10:20,940
If they can explain why the additional information is needed, I will turn more over.

781
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:24,960
But again, the problem is why students can access porn on their RCS prom books.

782
01:10:25,420 --> 01:10:28,220
I just explained that.

783
01:10:28,220 --> 01:10:32,840
So I love the tone of voice change, that's good inflection, yeah, there it is.

784
01:10:33,780 --> 01:10:38,340
So again, as community, notice my response, right?

785
01:10:38,820 --> 01:10:41,920
The response was not from Ms. Lindor or Fragumany.

786
01:10:42,460 --> 01:10:45,160
Everything gets passed third hand through people and filtered.

787
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:49,820
So that's, again, why I simply was stating it would be really beneficial if they spoke for themselves.

788
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:54,060
We couldn't just have honest conversation back before, there couldn't be a response, there was a delay.

789
01:10:54,440 --> 01:10:59,900
So again, instead of reading snippets, I will release the whole chain of emails, you can decide what you want from it.

790
01:11:00,020 --> 01:11:10,360
But clearly even as she was reading it, I was seeking to understand why the information was being asked because yes, we do have an issue with retaliation from this board table, from our administration.

791
01:11:10,360 --> 01:11:15,540
So that is a respectful way for me to make sure I was protecting the people that raised the issue.

792
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:19,680
And also, there was some that felt like they were directed toward looking for the teacher.

793
01:11:19,800 --> 01:11:22,960
So I simply was seeking that information before I turned over more information.

794
01:11:23,340 --> 01:11:27,360
A simple response is say, hey, this is why it's relevant, this is how we use it, what it's a fight.

795
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:34,480
But again, so I will release everything you can make your decision however you want, it is what it is at this point.

796
01:11:34,480 --> 01:11:53,180
When we decided to give access to every student allowed top, we had to take on the responsibility to ensure it, and again, we can just continue to not want to continue to look at it and find out where we have problems, but just bringing something up like that, and you'll see the time that passed, it wasn't about addressing the problem, it's turned into this spectacle.

797
01:11:53,520 --> 01:12:00,460
So again, simply, we got to make sure that we are responsible for the devices that we hand over to our students, that's simply it, thank you.

798
01:12:01,260 --> 01:12:06,980
And as they follow up, we do ensure that our technology is safe and secure.

799
01:12:07,440 --> 01:12:09,000
It will never be 100%.

800
01:12:09,340 --> 01:12:15,940
Nobody can guarantee 100% that students will not be able to access inappropriate content or that a network won't be breached.

801
01:12:16,280 --> 01:12:17,580
It's simply not possible.

802
01:12:18,160 --> 01:12:27,640
However, we have taken every measure since we deployed devices to our staff, our students, and in this district that we have had extensive security measures in place.

803
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:34,640
And we added even more to extend those security practices to students when they are not on the RCS network.

804
01:12:35,820 --> 01:12:42,920
As a technology professional, these are the measures that we have taken to ensure student safety online.

805
01:12:45,300 --> 01:12:46,420
Thank you very much.

806
01:12:47,100 --> 01:12:49,320
All right, we are moving on to new business.

807
01:12:50,500 --> 01:12:58,180
We have item 7.1 is now the, there's no public comment at this time, this is not an action item.

808
01:12:58,180 --> 01:12:59,900
Public comment will be at the end.

809
01:13:01,660 --> 01:13:08,340
First item of business is Board of Education Meeting Schedule for 22, I'm sorry, 2023, 2024.

810
01:13:08,900 --> 01:13:15,120
Is there a motion to approve the Board of Education Meeting Schedule for 23, 24?

811
01:13:18,220 --> 01:13:23,820
Moved by Mrs. Gupta, support by Mrs. Alspac.

812
01:13:25,440 --> 01:13:29,480
Okay, discussion, I think Mrs. Bull, you had asked this to be pulled.

813
01:13:30,660 --> 01:13:35,480
Yeah. Madam President, thank you. So two things. Number one, I just wanted to

814
01:13:35,480 --> 01:13:39,840
thank the administration. I see that our meeting locations are all over the

815
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:43,460
district next year and in different locations. I know that I've been a little

816
01:13:43,460 --> 01:13:46,860
bit vocal while I love Rochester High School and I love this auditorium. It does

817
01:13:46,860 --> 01:13:54,480
feel a little bit too formal here and so I appreciate the fact that we'll be

818
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:59,780
able to try out different locations. Secondly, I'd like to suggest that we make

819
01:13:59,780 --> 01:14:05,260
a slight change. I'm sorry, I'm speaking. I'd like to suggest that we make a,

820
01:14:09,660 --> 01:14:10,420
I'd like

821
01:14:10,420 --> 01:14:15,380
to make a suggestion. Excuse me. If we could please have some respect at this time, there

822
01:14:15,380 --> 01:14:22,720
is a time for public comment. Mrs. Bull. I'd like to make a suggestion that we move our

823
01:14:22,720 --> 01:14:29,680
meeting start time to 6 p.m. I think that this would benefit the community, it would benefit

824
01:14:29,680 --> 01:14:35,160
But to the staff, sometimes they're up with our students very early the next morning.

825
01:14:35,940 --> 01:14:43,500
And it would, I think, just make for more wide awake board trustees as well.

826
01:14:44,920 --> 01:14:52,080
I know that there could be some concerns about getting people getting here potentially after work.

827
01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:57,360
I know I'm probably one of them, I may be Dr. Alsoc, you and I can commute together on those days.

828
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,820
I'm not sure but I'll make it a point to try to get here, bye.

829
01:15:01,020 --> 01:15:28,440
I see our meetings going a little bit later and later as we have more engaging conversations and that is my suggestion. I brought it up to President Butel and I asked her to please consult with the administration just to make sure there weren't any unintended consequences that I wouldn't be aware of and I think that they were on board with that change. So my suggestion would be that we move our start time to 6 p.m. for our meetings next school year.

830
01:15:28,440 --> 01:15:38,660
Okay, so I'm hearing that you would like to amend the board meeting schedule so that our regular and work session meetings are at six.

831
01:15:39,560 --> 01:15:43,920
And then the Truth and Budget Hearing Meeting that is listed would be at 545.

832
01:15:45,280 --> 01:15:53,080
All right, so moved by Mrs. Bull, is there support for that by Mrs. Anis?

833
01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:59,100
Is there any discussion about amending the motion to change the start times?

834
01:16:01,730 --> 01:16:01,930
Okay.

835
01:16:02,370 --> 01:16:17,290
So we have a motion to approve the board meetings schedule with the revised start times as identified at six o'clock with the exception of truth in budget hearing at 5.45 and we'll keep the retreat meeting at 5 p.m.

836
01:16:17,430 --> 01:16:20,610
as listed. Is there any comment from the public on this?

837
01:16:21,710 --> 01:16:23,530
I do see someone moving forward.

838
01:16:28,300 --> 01:16:35,080
My name is Michelle Greenwald, I'm a parent of our CS graduate and the current student and I'm also a taxpayer.

839
01:16:35,700 --> 01:16:41,960
I would like to know when the board of education meetings are going to be held at the new administrative building.

840
01:16:42,340 --> 01:16:52,200
After over $10 million has been spent on this remodel, the taxpayers who paid for this extravagant building should have the right to see what we have funded.

841
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:57,660
In addition, I would imagine that there is adequate space to accommodate board meetings.

842
01:16:58,120 --> 01:17:08,160
I anticipate that this includes a sound system, which clearly has been lacking at several of the guest schools along with the podium.

843
01:17:08,440 --> 01:17:14,940
So that audience members can easily be identified by the board when the opportunity arises for public comment.

844
01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:21,500
I, along with many others in the community, are excited to see our new administrative building.

845
01:17:22,060 --> 01:17:31,000
So I'd like to know when will we have board meetings at our new administrative building on Rochester, or on Daquinter.

846
01:17:32,890 --> 01:17:33,850
Thank you.

847
01:17:34,630 --> 01:17:36,970
All right, so at this point, we have-

848
01:17:36,970 --> 01:17:38,850
Madam President, Mrs. Liquid.

849
01:17:39,810 --> 01:17:45,470
Why don't we have the admin building listed as one of the locations here, or as a consistent location perhaps,

850
01:17:45,470 --> 01:18:05,330
Perhaps because we're hearing from the public that there are many reasons that we might want to consider having it at the admin building and perhaps I mean I've brought this up before where I've wondered if the consistency might actually be helpful so people know where they're going for board meetings and then you don't have to remove recording equipment all around either you could set up a space and not have to worry about that.

851
01:18:09,090 --> 01:18:14,570
I mean, someone else can answer to, but at this point, there is no space specifically identified.

852
01:18:14,810 --> 01:18:18,310
Nothing was built as a board room in that building.

853
01:18:21,110 --> 01:18:29,970
So, at this point, we have a motion on the table to accept the locations and

854
01:18:29,970 --> 01:18:31,310
the timing as amended.

855
01:18:32,230 --> 01:18:34,070
Is there any other discussion at this point?

856
01:18:34,070 --> 01:18:42,570
All right, so all of those in favor of accepting the meeting schedule as presented with the revised times, please say aye.

857
01:18:42,970 --> 01:18:43,510
Aye.

858
01:18:44,030 --> 01:18:44,590
Opposed?

859
01:18:45,250 --> 01:18:49,030
That's a 7-0 vote and the meeting schedule is approved.

860
01:18:49,950 --> 01:19:01,750
Next, we have new item 7.2, which is the Board of Education Regular Meeting Minutes from June 5th, 2023, is there a motion to approve the minutes as

861
01:19:01,750 --> 01:19:04,290
identified or as as presented.

862
01:19:05,650 --> 01:19:13,970
Mrs. Gupta was support by Mrs. Bull and then I believe Mrs. LaCouille you had asked for this one to be pulled.

863
01:19:16,540 --> 01:19:27,380
Yeah, so this is page 30 in the packet that we received item 8.4, non-union administrator compensation recommendation for 2023-2024.

864
01:19:29,380 --> 01:19:31,860
It misrepresents a comment that I made.

865
01:19:32,140 --> 01:19:36,860
It says, let Kuyi inquired whether the board should renew the contract of an administrator

866
01:19:36,860 --> 01:19:37,780
who called a parent.

867
01:19:38,760 --> 01:19:41,740
That's that totally misrepresents what I was saying.

868
01:19:42,060 --> 01:19:46,460
It should say instead, let Kuyi inquired whether the board should renew the contract

869
01:19:46,460 --> 01:19:51,680
of an administrator who called a parent's employer to complain about them which cost the

870
01:19:51,680 --> 01:19:54,100
district hundreds of thousands of dollars in a federal lawsuit.

871
01:19:54,100 --> 01:19:54,720
Right

872
01:20:01,980 --> 01:20:08,480
so do you have that in writing you pass that down yes I well I can't pass

873
01:20:08,480 --> 01:20:12,980
it down but I can email it to yeah can't we also look at the video and just

874
01:20:13,580 --> 01:20:17,680
transcribe it verbatim based on what she said well the issue is that minutes are

875
01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:22,400
not supposed to be a give and take in fact there's discussions about this as

876
01:20:22,400 --> 01:20:29,260
well that you know we can't go through this all the time of identifying exactly

877
01:20:29,260 --> 01:20:35,840
what someone said or meant, but I would agree that this was not accurately portrayed here.

878
01:20:36,060 --> 01:20:40,480
I didn't expect to renewing the contract of an administrator who called a parent, that's silly.

879
01:20:41,420 --> 01:20:45,300
So I guess I would say, give

880
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:48,640
me one second here.

881
01:20:54,770 --> 01:21:03,870
So can we just put it in there to say Likui inquired whether the board should renew the contract of an administrator who called a parent's employer and just leave it there?

882
01:21:03,870 --> 01:21:09,550
I mean, I would advocate that I think it should be the entire sentence.

883
01:21:09,810 --> 01:21:11,190
That's exactly what I was opposing.

884
01:21:11,370 --> 01:21:17,190
Then I guess what I would say is I would move that we not go on this at this time,

885
01:21:17,330 --> 01:21:22,070
and we go back, and we, you know, redo the minutes and bring it at the next meeting.

886
01:21:22,690 --> 01:21:25,010
President Mutel, I have a question.

887
01:21:25,670 --> 01:21:27,650
You just made a statement that there was a discussion about this.

888
01:21:27,730 --> 01:21:28,830
Who are you having discussions with?

889
01:21:29,990 --> 01:21:34,790
I commented when I reviewed the minutes that I thought we needed to make some changes

890
01:21:34,790 --> 01:21:36,710
just to go back to how we were doing it before.

891
01:21:37,770 --> 01:21:41,810
So you had a discussion, but it was just a discussion with yourself?

892
01:21:42,650 --> 01:21:54,030
No, I asked Jessica and Mrs. Whitmore to get together to review these and set some standards because we've changed how the minutes are presented now versus how they were before.

893
01:21:54,670 --> 01:21:58,470
So you haven't contacted any law firm in regards to this or MSAB?

894
01:21:58,470 --> 01:21:59,950
No. Okay.

895
01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:16,300
So at this point there is a motion on the table to approve this. I will say that at this point I'm going to vote no and bring this back at another point.

896
01:22:19,060 --> 01:22:28,400
So the motion on the floor is to actually we have a motion to approve the minutes.

897
01:22:28,400 --> 01:22:38,060
And then Carol Beth was making a motion to alter the minutes, she wanted to amend the minutes.

898
01:22:43,170 --> 01:22:45,090
I am looking to,

899
01:22:49,670 --> 01:22:52,430
I would like to, the

900
01:22:55,400 --> 01:22:58,480
motion is to remove this until later time to,

901
01:23:01,930 --> 01:23:04,090
yeah, it could be.

902
01:23:04,090 --> 01:23:05,610
We postpone the motion.

903
01:23:07,570 --> 01:23:14,150
So I'd like to make a motion that we postpone, this current motion, is there any support for that?

904
01:23:16,590 --> 01:23:18,390
By Mrs. Annis.

905
01:23:19,370 --> 01:23:22,670
So let's vote on the motion to postpone at this point.

906
01:23:22,990 --> 01:23:24,910
All of those in favor, please say aye.

907
01:23:25,370 --> 01:23:25,730
Aye.

908
01:23:26,490 --> 01:23:27,050
Opposed?

909
01:23:27,610 --> 01:23:28,550
No, I know what I said.

910
01:23:28,990 --> 01:23:30,770
That's a five to vote.

911
01:23:30,770 --> 01:23:36,310
So, we'll review those, we will postpone that and we'll bring that back at our July meeting.

912
01:23:38,690 --> 01:23:47,410
We now have item 7.3, which is recommendations to interview prospective strategic planning consultants.

913
01:23:48,550 --> 01:23:50,590
Mrs. Fregumani, is this you?

914
01:23:53,210 --> 01:23:58,990
Thank you, Madam President, and I've asked Cindy Linder and Matt McDaniel to help with this

915
01:23:58,990 --> 01:24:04,230
conversation to share the work that it has been done with this proposal.

916
01:24:04,850 --> 01:24:13,950
The State of Michigan and Rochester Community Schools Board of Education set policies and regulations for all purchasing activity within our district.

917
01:24:14,730 --> 01:24:25,910
Revised school code 380.1267 and 380.1274 determined thresholds for competitive bidding.

918
01:24:25,910 --> 01:24:34,230
and set specific restrictions for construction, renovation, remodeling, and repair of district property,

919
01:24:34,750 --> 01:24:38,990
as well as rules for procurement of supplies, materials, and equipment.

920
01:24:39,950 --> 01:24:47,470
Current or previously awarded district bids are located on BIDNet direct through the MITN purchasing group.

921
01:24:48,230 --> 01:24:52,570
In order to advance the district's five year strategic planning process,

922
01:24:52,570 --> 01:25:06,570
the Board of Education and Rochester Community Schools identified a need to hire a qualified consultant who would assist with facilitating the design and the development and the implementation of this plan.

923
01:25:07,230 --> 01:25:19,930
The Board President worked closely with the District Leadership Team to create a request for proposal that would invite all eligible candidates to apply and promote a fair and equitable process.

924
01:25:19,930 --> 01:25:33,110
The document includes a timeline, an overview of district, scope of requested services, the requirements, and evaluation criteria, and supporting documents.

925
01:25:33,970 --> 01:25:47,070
Once approved, the RFP was posted publicly on BidNet Direct by the district's purchasing office on May 15th, 2023, with a submission deadline by June 1st.

926
01:25:47,070 --> 01:25:51,950
10 submissions were received from the following organizations.

927
01:25:52,810 --> 01:26:01,210
BFK, delivered ed, four point, GND, Insight Education Group,

928
01:26:01,670 --> 01:26:07,610
Maynard Cossetarian, Maya Consulting, True,

929
01:26:08,650 --> 01:26:11,470
Urge, Imprint, and Zylo International.

930
01:26:12,610 --> 01:26:16,890
The designated board committee and members of the District leadership team

931
01:26:16,890 --> 01:26:22,030
Thirdly reviewed and independently rated the submissions using a decision matrix.

932
01:26:22,550 --> 01:26:27,750
Each person on the team shared key points that they highlighted from the proposals.

933
01:26:28,550 --> 01:26:33,930
Participated in an open, round table discussion and reviewed those ratings.

934
01:26:34,970 --> 01:26:40,730
As outlined in the RFP, proposals were evaluated using the following criteria.

935
01:26:40,730 --> 01:26:48,350
approach and methodology, experience and expertise, references and past performance and price.

936
01:26:49,010 --> 01:26:53,990
When calculating committee scores, four companies received the highest ratings.

937
01:26:54,670 --> 01:26:59,770
This evening we are presenting a recommendation for the board to interview the following

938
01:26:59,770 --> 01:27:02,230
prospective strategic plan consultants.

939
01:27:02,230 --> 01:27:10,570
Since, they are 4-point G&D Insight Education Group and true.

940
01:27:11,230 --> 01:27:12,270
Thank you.

941
01:27:12,670 --> 01:27:13,650
Thank you.

942
01:27:14,150 --> 01:27:20,690
Is there a motion to approve the recommendation to interview 4-point G&D Insight Education

943
01:27:20,690 --> 01:27:21,830
Group and through?

944
01:27:22,670 --> 01:27:28,750
Move by Mrs. Anna, support by Mrs. Vol, board discussion.

945
01:27:30,790 --> 01:27:31,490
Mrs. Lucui?

946
01:27:31,490 --> 01:27:39,370
Do we just have a question, has there been any update on references and people who have responded to references since we last got an update?

947
01:27:40,590 --> 01:27:56,530
Unfortunately, no, since today is a holiday, those school districts were closed, so I do have some calls scheduled on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday this week and will update before the interview has been unfortunately couldn't get any before that.

948
01:27:58,580 --> 01:28:00,660
Any other discussion at this point?

949
01:28:02,300 --> 01:28:05,900
Was there any comment from the public regarding the strategic planning proposals?

950
01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:07,880
All right.

951
01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:14,900
So all of those in favor of approving the recommendation for the consulting firms for

952
01:28:14,900 --> 01:28:16,500
us to interview, please say aye.

953
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:17,780
Aye.

954
01:28:18,420 --> 01:28:18,980
Opposed?

955
01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:26,700
That's a 70 vote and we will move forward with that and I think we'll have that meeting

956
01:28:26,700 --> 01:28:29,120
Everything will be at 5 o'clock this Thursday.

957
01:28:31,480 --> 01:28:42,000
Okay, so now we are on to 7, what is now 7.4, which is approval of bid awards, Mr. McDaniel.

958
01:28:42,600 --> 01:28:43,500
Yes, thank you, Madam President.

959
01:28:44,100 --> 01:28:46,200
Tonight we have three recommendations for your approval.

960
01:28:46,580 --> 01:28:56,240
The first award is for anatomy tables to support the district's health science programs of anatomy, biology, and health, as well as students competing in health occupations, students of America, or host events.

961
01:28:57,020 --> 01:28:59,520
Educators will receive professional training before implementation.

962
01:28:59,980 --> 01:29:04,540
This purchases for two tables, or one each for Rochester High School and Stony Creek High School.

963
01:29:05,120 --> 01:29:07,900
Rochester Adams High School received one table as part of a pilot program.

964
01:29:08,400 --> 01:29:14,580
On April 6, 2023, the district advertised a request for proposals for this project in the local publication of Rochester Post.

965
01:29:14,980 --> 01:29:18,940
Posted RFP documents on the purchasing pages of the district's website SIGMA and BINET Direct.

966
01:29:19,340 --> 01:29:21,020
The district received one response.

967
01:29:21,020 --> 01:29:29,380
The proposal was evaluated by the District's Executive Director of Secondary Education and Director of Career Readiness, CTE and CFE, K-12.

968
01:29:29,840 --> 01:29:34,340
The District's purchasing supervisor analyzes responses for bid content inclusion and requires the middles.

969
01:29:35,160 --> 01:29:39,680
The source of funding is split equally between the Rochester Community Schools Foundation and the General Fund.

970
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:46,140
Based on this information, we recommend that the District Award American 3B scientific for the purchase of two anatomy tables.

971
01:29:46,140 --> 01:29:52,400
and $22,597 each for total project costs of $45,194.

972
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:57,520
Our second award tonight is for the purchase of a district-owned portable sound system,

973
01:29:57,760 --> 01:29:59,980
which will eliminate the need to rent equipment to serve-

974
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:28,620
Large scale events hosted by the district, such as homecoming dances, outdoor assemblies, board meeting presentations, prom or pep rallies. May 25, 2023, the district advertised a request for proposals for this project in those same publications and sources. District received one response on June 8, 2023. These proposals were evaluated by the Executive Director of Secondary Education and the Auditorium Facilitator. Bids were analyzed for bid content and inclusion required submitters by the purchasing supervisor.

975
01:30:28,620 --> 01:30:31,480
source of funding for this project is a general fund.

976
01:30:32,020 --> 01:30:35,440
Based on this information, we recommended the Board of Education Board Advanced Lighting

977
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:41,780
and Sound for the purchase of one portable sound system at $46,818 as well as the alternate

978
01:30:41,780 --> 01:30:46,880
equipment at $1,304 for total project costs of $48,122.

979
01:30:48,220 --> 01:30:52,120
Our final award tonight is for the Brooklyn's and Hampton Elementary School flooring project.

980
01:30:52,640 --> 01:30:55,820
Brooklyn's and Hampton were scheduled to receive new flooring as part of the bond scope.

981
01:30:55,820 --> 01:31:00,780
However, the floor replacement was removed to address upgrades to the each VAC systems.

982
01:31:01,340 --> 01:31:05,860
Scope of this project includes classrooms and corridors and when it correct in a memo

983
01:31:05,860 --> 01:31:12,380
it says gymnasiums and cafeterias but unfortunately time will not allow for that project for those areas to be completed.

984
01:31:12,860 --> 01:31:15,040
We're actually going to complete this project in two phases.

985
01:31:15,520 --> 01:31:23,420
The classrooms are occurring over the summer of 2023 and the corridors I believe in the winter of 2024 during non-instructional periods.

986
01:31:23,420 --> 01:31:30,880
It's the district has the opportunity to participate in cooperative purchasing programs which conduct competitive bidding processes on behalf of public school entities.

987
01:31:31,440 --> 01:31:37,480
The national cooperative program source well has awarded flooring contracts that can be utilized by the district.

988
01:31:38,140 --> 01:31:44,180
These contracts were evaluated by the director of capital projects and facilities and were analyzed for compliance by the purchasing supervisor.

989
01:31:44,700 --> 01:31:47,060
Source of funding for this project is a bond fund.

990
01:31:47,060 --> 01:32:01,820
Based on this information, we recommend that the Board of Education were the Brooklands and Hampton Elementary School's flooring projects to capital flooring incorporated the amount of $456,000, $115,000 each for a total project not to exceed the amount of $912,230.

991
01:32:02,380 --> 01:32:07,660
And if there's any questions on the specific projects, we have representatives for each one of them here tonight. Thank you.

992
01:32:10,790 --> 01:32:13,430
All right, are there any questions from board members?

993
01:32:15,150 --> 01:32:15,970
Mrs. Anis.

994
01:32:17,370 --> 01:32:19,010
Yeah, I just had a couple.

995
01:32:20,030 --> 01:32:28,050
Regarding the anatomy tables, did I miss or maybe I missed it, but when will these

996
01:32:28,050 --> 01:32:32,830
be anticipated to be delivered and installed in the two high schools, do we have any idea?

997
01:32:32,930 --> 01:32:37,750
Yeah, I think if we want to talk anatomy tables first, I believe our director of career readiness

998
01:32:37,750 --> 01:32:38,190
is here.

999
01:32:38,190 --> 01:32:38,810
Thank you, Karen Malzbury.

1000
01:32:57,450 --> 01:33:00,770
Hi, good evening, Karen Malzbury, Director of Career Readiness and CTE.

1001
01:33:01,490 --> 01:33:05,530
And this is my colleague, Erin Slomker, from Rochester High School.

1002
01:33:05,810 --> 01:33:08,590
She's going to be here to help answer questions tonight on curriculum.

1003
01:33:09,270 --> 01:33:11,550
And also, come, come down.

1004
01:33:12,550 --> 01:33:20,450
We have a representative from three B-scientific Eric Wilcoe, so we'll be here to answer

1005
01:33:20,450 --> 01:33:21,630
any questions that you have.

1006
01:33:21,630 --> 01:33:28,370
have. So the anatomy table, we did get one already at Adams High School. It did come

1007
01:33:28,370 --> 01:33:35,690
from Korea, so unpacking it was a real delight. It was very packaged beautifully. And so

1008
01:33:36,330 --> 01:33:43,310
they do take about two to three months to come in. So as soon as an approval has gone through,

1009
01:33:43,790 --> 01:33:47,510
we're looking at two to three months, so it would be lovely if we could have this in by

1010
01:33:47,510 --> 01:33:48,330
By the end of September.

1011
01:33:49,550 --> 01:33:55,270
Thank you. That was really my, I guess, the crux of my question was, will it be here by the time school begins?

1012
01:33:55,630 --> 01:33:56,990
So it sounds like it's pretty close.

1013
01:33:57,610 --> 01:33:57,910
Yeah, cool.

1014
01:34:01,240 --> 01:34:02,980
Are there any other questions, Mr. Weaver?

1015
01:34:03,880 --> 01:34:07,000
So I think I have more of a question just again from overall.

1016
01:34:07,260 --> 01:34:07,980
What is the objective?

1017
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:17,900
This feels a lot like the FANTIC robot where we get into these ideas of having these things and they're great ideas and they're great tools or great resources.

1018
01:34:17,900 --> 01:34:22,500
is, but now at this point, what is the plan?

1019
01:34:22,740 --> 01:34:24,220
We're not seeing that being presented.

1020
01:34:24,540 --> 01:34:26,340
I don't know if we're not asking for it the right way.

1021
01:34:26,940 --> 01:34:28,820
So I'm Mr. McKinnon, maybe we have to back and forth.

1022
01:34:29,180 --> 01:34:32,400
I'm not seeing where these pieces that we keep voting for,

1023
01:34:32,760 --> 01:34:35,200
how it fits into the puzzle of what the plan is.

1024
01:34:35,300 --> 01:34:37,460
Again, to say we vote against this people,

1025
01:34:37,580 --> 01:34:38,820
you vote against an enemy table.

1026
01:34:39,480 --> 01:34:40,320
I'm just trying to understand.

1027
01:34:40,580 --> 01:34:42,660
And then same thing, like I said, the fanatic robots are great.

1028
01:34:42,720 --> 01:34:44,820
I think it's a great opportunity, but where and again

1029
01:34:44,820 --> 01:34:47,140
is the board, what's the vision, what's the end goal?

1030
01:34:47,140 --> 01:34:54,020
I guess maybe I'm asking more of a question about process of how these pieces and

1031
01:34:54,020 --> 01:34:57,300
these things go together and how do we get that information and maybe help me understand

1032
01:34:57,300 --> 01:34:58,760
how do we ask for that question the right way.

1033
01:34:59,180 --> 01:35:04,280
How do we see where these votes fit into the larger plan of why we're doing this stuff?

1034
01:35:04,660 --> 01:35:06,980
Because again, it's not to say, hey, we don't want the kids to have an enemy table,

1035
01:35:07,460 --> 01:35:10,580
but what is the end goal or where we're trying to make a process better, or we're trying

1036
01:35:10,580 --> 01:35:12,020
to make the curriculum overall better?

1037
01:35:12,400 --> 01:35:15,760
Again, I use the Fannock robot as an example, that's a great resource.

1038
01:35:15,760 --> 01:35:20,860
It was explained well at that meeting again kind of what direction we were going and so I'm just trying to have a better

1039
01:35:20,860 --> 01:35:26,700
understanding of the direction of these anatomy tables and what the end goal is by adding them in as we go forward about the

1040
01:35:26,700 --> 01:35:33,860
probably a question. I ask a lot about these purchases so I'm not sure I understand exactly what you're looking for. I mean are you looking for a

1041
01:35:33,860 --> 01:35:40,860
lesson plan or are you looking for? I'm looking for the vision of why we're trying to like in what is the piece of the puzzle? What does this

1042
01:35:40,860 --> 01:35:43,920
advance, what is the end goal of we spend, as is spend the money?

1043
01:35:44,700 --> 01:35:48,900
Again, there are those concerns when we've come up at times, is this just a hey, we have money to spend, so we're spending it?

1044
01:35:49,260 --> 01:35:57,720
Or is there a hey, the end goal for this project, or this curriculum, is that we have to get to x point, this is step two, three, four in that process?

1045
01:35:57,780 --> 01:36:02,020
I'm just trying to understand what the plan or vision is as we spend money going forward.

1046
01:36:02,520 --> 01:36:06,080
All right, well, I'm going to turn it over to Mrs. Malsbury, if that's okay.

1047
01:36:06,780 --> 01:36:12,260
I know that in the information we had been provided in what they even just read, it talked

1048
01:36:12,260 --> 01:36:19,640
about including it in the science curriculum and science courses that some of our like

1049
01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:25,480
HOSA and any of our groups that utilize are in that medical field to be able to utilize

1050
01:36:25,480 --> 01:36:25,700
it.

1051
01:36:26,100 --> 01:36:30,400
But if you have some additional information to share, that would be awesome.

1052
01:36:31,620 --> 01:36:32,220
Absolutely.

1053
01:36:33,020 --> 01:36:50,780
I just want to maybe take a step back. I've been in this role for a year and when I took on this role I really did a deep dive into what is expected from us from Oakland schools, our ISD when it came to career readiness.

1054
01:36:51,460 --> 01:36:57,260
So the ISD, basically, is given us a bunch of goals that we need to complete to maintain

1055
01:36:57,260 --> 01:37:02,340
the grant that was used for the Adam's anatomy table and one of our fanatic robots.

1056
01:37:03,280 --> 01:37:10,380
And when I looked at these goals, they basically are asking us to give our students career readiness

1057
01:37:10,380 --> 01:37:16,440
in five different areas that really are an economic indicator of what the state needs.

1058
01:37:16,440 --> 01:37:25,420
And those five industries are advanced manufacturing, which Mr. Weaver had explained we already

1059
01:37:25,780 --> 01:37:28,480
took care of in the way of the phantic robot.

1060
01:37:29,320 --> 01:37:30,700
Another one is construction.

1061
01:37:31,960 --> 01:37:36,380
We do have a woodworking program here at Wartus Community Schools, and we have engineering

1062
01:37:36,380 --> 01:37:38,120
programs here at Wartchester.

1063
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:44,000
And then if anybody saw in the news recently, our students were involved in making an actual

1064
01:37:44,000 --> 01:37:54,560
house in Pontiac with the OTEC school that our students go to, so we check the

1065
01:37:54,560 --> 01:38:00,400
box with construction and then health sciences. We currently don't have a CTE

1066
01:38:00,400 --> 01:38:04,020
program for health sciences, current technical education program for

1067
01:38:04,020 --> 01:38:09,480
health sciences, but we have a plethora of classes that our students take in

1068
01:38:09,480 --> 01:38:18,600
sciences, AP anatomy and physiology, AP bio, we have pathology. I mean, I can basically

1069
01:38:18,600 --> 01:38:24,800
put the mic over to Erin and she can explain all about those classes. But what I see through

1070
01:38:24,800 --> 01:38:31,420
the lens that I see within career readiness and CTE is giving our students access to the

1071
01:38:31,420 --> 01:38:36,800
equipment that they are going to use if they walked across the road to ascension, giving

1072
01:38:36,800 --> 01:38:41,920
given them access to the equipment that they're going to have at OCC or Macon CUNY College

1073
01:38:41,920 --> 01:38:47,560
or giving them equipment that they would see in U of M or state campuses.

1074
01:38:48,420 --> 01:38:55,240
And so having that equipment available to them in their schools within the normal classroom

1075
01:38:55,240 --> 01:39:01,660
that they're in five days a week for an hour, I thought, personally thought was a great

1076
01:39:01,660 --> 01:39:09,140
idea, because having that access to innovative technology is our future for our students.

1077
01:39:09,840 --> 01:39:15,160
And then just to round it out, we also have information technology as one of our goals,

1078
01:39:15,680 --> 01:39:20,520
which with our innovative labs that we're creating at each of the buildings, our innovation

1079
01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:28,320
labs, you will see more in the 3D printing area, the CNC machines and all that good stuff too.

1080
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:32,380
And then the last one is transport mobility, logistics and energy.

1081
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:39,460
So I think quite get to that one this year, but that's definitely a goal to expose

1082
01:39:39,460 --> 01:39:45,860
our students to renewable energy and getting them out in our community, looking at some of

1083
01:39:45,860 --> 01:39:55,880
the innovation technology when it comes to automation as well as mobile cars and things that's

1084
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:56,240
going on.

1085
01:39:56,240 --> 01:40:11,100
Anyway, I'm rambling and I don't mean to, but I think my goal and I think the goal of career readiness is giving us students access to what they need and what they're going to see when they leave what's just community schools.

1086
01:40:12,760 --> 01:40:25,020
First I want to say thank you that actually what you said helped me understand on a lot better, and specifically what you said about the goal is obviously maintain, there's certain things we have to do to maintain the grants and then ultimately your goal, the goals to that, can we get that sent to us?

1087
01:40:25,020 --> 01:40:28,660
I think that would just help me to better understand it but when you explain it was amazing. Thank you.

1088
01:40:31,450 --> 01:40:33,330
All right. Are there any other questions?

1089
01:40:34,930 --> 01:40:41,470
I was just curious on the sound system and additionally in addition to handling large events.

1090
01:40:42,730 --> 01:40:48,390
Will it also help with our board meetings in smaller circumstances as well?

1091
01:40:48,910 --> 01:40:52,370
Sure. Let me call on Dr. DeLuca and Mr. Jaffee.

1092
01:40:52,990 --> 01:40:54,230
You can speak to that.

1093
01:40:57,150 --> 01:40:58,870
I could even, Madam President, board.

1094
01:41:00,150 --> 01:41:01,590
If you recite the question again.

1095
01:41:02,510 --> 01:41:08,190
Yeah, just on the sound system, I know it sounded like it would handle large events, but

1096
01:41:08,190 --> 01:41:12,250
I'm wondering, you know, if we're in a media center or something like that, can it tie

1097
01:41:12,250 --> 01:41:18,490
in to these microphones for CMTV as well and have better sound in some of those meetings?

1098
01:41:18,930 --> 01:41:19,430
Great question.

1099
01:41:19,670 --> 01:41:23,990
So when you put the bit out there for a scalable sound system to do small events, one of

1100
01:41:23,990 --> 01:41:29,390
Was the board meetings to accommodate when we move around the district to have ample sound for our community

1101
01:41:29,390 --> 01:41:31,790
But then scale it up to a large event as well

1102
01:41:34,380 --> 01:41:35,980
Mrs. Bull I

1103
01:41:39,180 --> 01:41:41,500
did that the second time. Mrs. Anis. That's okay

1104
01:41:42,180 --> 01:41:48,840
Can you just in a very simple terms? What is an amplified audio system? I mean, sure

1105
01:41:49,660 --> 01:41:53,500
I think it like a karaoke machine. No, no, this is nothing like a karaoke machine

1106
01:41:53,500 --> 01:41:58,260
So think about in this room right now. We have a we have an audio component that's fixed. You can't move it around

1107
01:41:58,260 --> 01:42:03,600
So the district in our students in schools do are usually renting equipment.

1108
01:42:04,460 --> 01:42:10,940
And so we've been renting equipment throughout the years, as a former high school principal seeing rent equipment for

1109
01:42:10,940 --> 01:42:17,080
homecoming dances and prams, and we're just renting this stuff that we have three different buildings.

1110
01:42:17,080 --> 01:42:21,660
Now we'll be able to have a cost effective solution to utilize throughout the district.

1111
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:27,160
And it'll be K-12 solution and would just be a high school, but it'll be a K-12 that can go up in size for

1112
01:42:27,160 --> 01:42:30,000
for a large event, for outdoor could be a field day.

1113
01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:32,100
I'm all way down to a smaller event that could be.

1114
01:42:32,100 --> 01:42:38,220
So is the idea that each school is assigned this,

1115
01:42:38,700 --> 01:42:41,320
or they would be shared amongst my K through,

1116
01:42:41,660 --> 01:42:44,820
great to five, or in the high school, okay.

1117
01:42:45,340 --> 01:42:45,600
Thank you.

1118
01:42:48,580 --> 01:42:49,540
Are there any other questions?

1119
01:42:50,820 --> 01:42:52,440
All right, are there any questions from the public,

1120
01:42:54,640 --> 01:42:55,100
okay?

1121
01:42:55,980 --> 01:42:58,460
Then you know, I apologize.

1122
01:42:58,920 --> 01:43:00,660
Is there a motion to approve the bid awards

1123
01:43:00,660 --> 01:43:02,160
towards us presented, I did not get that.

1124
01:43:03,180 --> 01:43:11,460
Mrs. Boll, support by Mrs. Allspot, Dr. Allspot, all those in favor, please say aye.

1125
01:43:12,260 --> 01:43:12,500
Aye.

1126
01:43:13,900 --> 01:43:18,760
That's a 7-0 vote, that motion passes, and all three items, thank you.

1127
01:43:19,840 --> 01:43:25,760
Moving on to what is now agenda item 7.5, is the human resource report.

1128
01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:33,200
Thank you, good evening, President Butel, members of the board and community.

1129
01:43:33,500 --> 01:43:36,140
I recommend the following actions this evening for approval.

1130
01:43:37,180 --> 01:43:46,380
Acceptance of the following R.E.A. Resignations, Muraf Friedman-Linquist, Megan Hutton, Sarah Wolf, and Carly Zacharias.

1131
01:43:47,640 --> 01:43:52,620
Acceptance of the following R.E.A. Retirement, Joanne Titler.

1132
01:43:54,340 --> 01:44:03,040
acceptance of the following administrator resignation, Brian Hasler, and also this evening

1133
01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:08,040
recommending two administrator appointments, recommending the higher this evening of Joseph

1134
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:11,320
Duda to the position of director of human resources.

1135
01:44:12,160 --> 01:44:16,920
And I would like to also welcome Mr. Duda who's still with us, along with his wife, Jody.

1136
01:44:17,080 --> 01:44:18,220
Thank you for coming this evening.

1137
01:44:18,220 --> 01:44:27,240
This position was previously held by myself and has been vacant since I was promoted to assistant superintendent of human resources.

1138
01:44:27,800 --> 01:44:35,420
Mr. Duda holds a bachelor of science degree in education from CMU, master of arts degree in education from Wayne State,

1139
01:44:36,160 --> 01:44:40,960
an ed specialist degree in educational administration from Oakland University.

1140
01:44:41,580 --> 01:44:47,780
For the past 11 years, Mr. Duda has been the principal at Larson Middle School and Troy School District.

1141
01:44:48,740 --> 01:44:51,520
And Joe has also been a assistant principal and teacher in Troy.

1142
01:44:52,660 --> 01:44:59,980
And also this evening, recommending the for approval, Mr. Todd Calcamugio, assistant principal.

1143
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,680
Principal at Rochester Adams High School as the next principal at University Hills Elementary. Todd has been a partner in education in RCS for more than 14 years. During that time he served students as an athletic director, teacher and assistant principal, participating in a variety of instructional consortiums and community outreach events. Todd earned his master's degree in educational leadership from Oakland U and his bachelor's degree in education sport and leisure studies.

1144
01:45:29,680 --> 01:45:33,140
from the Ohio State University.

1145
01:45:33,800 --> 01:45:36,820
He would be angry at me if I didn't say the V there.

1146
01:45:37,380 --> 01:45:38,600
And Todd's not with us this evening

1147
01:45:38,600 --> 01:45:40,440
because he is traveling with our students.

1148
01:45:40,440 --> 01:45:42,880
I believe they're currently in Germany

1149
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:44,720
and they think they recently left France.

1150
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:45,900
Thank you.

1151
01:45:46,760 --> 01:45:47,620
Thank you.

1152
01:45:48,180 --> 01:45:49,660
Is there a motion to approve

1153
01:45:49,660 --> 01:45:52,560
the Human Resource Recommendation as presented?

1154
01:45:53,240 --> 01:45:57,000
Moved by Mrs. Bulls, support by Mrs. Gupta,

1155
01:45:57,680 --> 01:46:00,240
Any board discussion? Mrs. Bull?

1156
01:46:01,440 --> 01:46:04,700
Yeah, I just wanted to say congratulations to Mr. Cal.

1157
01:46:05,020 --> 01:46:08,580
I'm so happy for this to hear about this appointment.

1158
01:46:08,900 --> 01:46:10,680
I think he's going to be great in that role.

1159
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:15,500
And I also want to say how excited I was to hear about Mr. Duda.

1160
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:24,900
His qualifications seem amazing and just hearing from the great fine that he was really beloved in his previous district.

1161
01:46:24,900 --> 01:46:31,220
And most of all, I just wanted to mention the enthusiasm of Mr. Murphy about this one.

1162
01:46:31,440 --> 01:46:32,700
That really says it all to me.

1163
01:46:32,780 --> 01:46:33,500
That's all I need to know.

1164
01:46:33,580 --> 01:46:34,720
So I'm really excited about this.

1165
01:46:34,900 --> 01:46:35,140
Thank you.

1166
01:46:38,300 --> 01:46:38,860
Mr. Weaver?

1167
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:44,840
So I first want to say I would like to see you start voting on these things separately,

1168
01:46:45,740 --> 01:46:50,280
because ultimately to vote against it makes it probably that you're voting against all of it.

1169
01:46:50,340 --> 01:46:52,780
So I just want to make sure I explain to you why I have the voting against this.

1170
01:46:53,180 --> 01:46:55,160
It is specifically around the HR appointment.

1171
01:46:55,780 --> 01:47:04,540
I'm deeply concerned with the amount of money that we spend and to pay Miller Johnson for what it looks to be basic HR functions.

1172
01:47:04,800 --> 01:47:07,580
I don't blame anybody that's in our current role.

1173
01:47:07,900 --> 01:47:15,480
I've shared, I've had all great conversations with Mr. Murphy, but the RHR department, that is a specialty people at a school for HR.

1174
01:47:16,380 --> 01:47:20,240
And to add another educator to the mix, I think is deeply concerning.

1175
01:47:20,240 --> 01:47:50,180
So my vote against this is specifically, I believe our HR department needs to have HR professionals in it, so I'll be voting against this is not a knock to anybody else and it's also not a knock to the gentleman that was appointed to it because again, I've heard a lot of the same things about many people say that you can be a great, a great person just not the right person right place and it's a board that's ultimately our role to make sure we're putting people in the right place to be successful and I do believe our HR department is an area that needs really to have

1176
01:47:50,180 --> 01:47:54,120
We have some HR professionals to help us reduce cost of what we're paying out to Miller Johnson.

1177
01:47:57,840 --> 01:47:59,260
Is there any public comment?

1178
01:48:00,980 --> 01:48:06,400
All right, at this time, there's a motion to approve the human resource recommendations as presented.

1179
01:48:06,660 --> 01:48:08,340
All of those in favor, please say aye.

1180
01:48:08,860 --> 01:48:09,120
Aye.

1181
01:48:10,240 --> 01:48:10,780
Opposed?

1182
01:48:11,920 --> 01:48:17,100
That's a 5-1-1 vote.

1183
01:48:17,360 --> 01:48:18,220
The motion passes.

1184
01:48:19,320 --> 01:48:23,320
Congratulations to Todd Calcimusio for his appointment at University Hills.

1185
01:48:23,320 --> 01:48:26,600
as the next principal, and welcome to Joe Duda.

1186
01:48:27,420 --> 01:48:29,860
Congratulations, and we look forward to meeting you.

1187
01:48:32,400 --> 01:48:44,350
Next, we have agenda item 7.6, the 2023 tax rate certification action item, Mr. McDaniel.

1188
01:48:44,950 --> 01:48:45,750
Thank you, Madam.

1189
01:48:46,330 --> 01:48:47,190
No, I apologize.

1190
01:48:47,770 --> 01:48:49,910
Can we take a quick recess?

1191
01:48:50,410 --> 01:48:56,790
All right, we're going to take a quick recess here at 8.53, and hopefully we'll be back in about five minutes.

1192
01:48:56,790 --> 01:48:58,410
All right,

1193
01:49:43,840 --> 01:49:53,620
we are going to return here at 901 and we are on agenda item now 7.6, the 2023 tax rate certification, Mr. McDaniel.

1194
01:49:54,560 --> 01:49:55,680
Thank you, Madam President.

1195
01:49:56,740 --> 01:50:04,380
Just to review, from the Truth and Taxation Hearing, the request includes an 18-male levy on non-home set property for the general operations of the district.

1196
01:50:05,220 --> 01:50:12,440
1.76 mills on all classes of property for debt service obligations, and 1.463 on all classes of property for the singing fund.

1197
01:50:12,940 --> 01:50:19,320
That was approved by the community in November 2019, that was originally a 1.5 mill levy for the singing fund.

1198
01:50:19,440 --> 01:50:24,460
However, due to the heavily rollback, the mills were reduced to 1.463.

1199
01:50:24,920 --> 01:50:33,340
There are no changes to these tax rates from last year, and based on this information, we recommend approval of tax rates as presented for the 2324 fiscal year.

1200
01:50:34,560 --> 01:50:40,820
All right, is there a motion to approve the 2023 tax rate certification as presented?

1201
01:50:41,540 --> 01:50:49,060
Moved by Mrs. Gupta, support by Mrs. Dr. Olsbach, any board discussion on this.

1202
01:50:51,480 --> 01:50:56,640
And Mr. McDaniel, I'll just ask, this is just we have to approve it every year, is that correct?

1203
01:50:56,960 --> 01:51:02,980
Correct, the rates could change from year to year based on the debt or heavy rollback, but

1204
01:51:02,980 --> 01:51:08,200
Yes, we need to approve these, so that the local municipalities can issue their tax bills.

1205
01:51:08,920 --> 01:51:09,200
Thank you.

1206
01:51:09,580 --> 01:51:10,280
Anyone else?

1207
01:51:10,960 --> 01:51:12,340
Any public comment on this?

1208
01:51:13,900 --> 01:51:20,780
All right, then all those in favor of approving the 2023 tax rate certification as presented, please say aye.

1209
01:51:21,340 --> 01:51:21,540
Aye.

1210
01:51:22,220 --> 01:51:22,740
Opposed?

1211
01:51:23,080 --> 01:51:25,300
That's a 7-0 vote and the motion passes.

1212
01:51:26,540 --> 01:51:30,580
Moving on to now 7.7.

1213
01:51:30,580 --> 01:51:35,780
Again, approval of the 2324 fiscal year budget, Mr. McDaniel.

1214
01:51:36,360 --> 01:51:36,920
Thank you.

1215
01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:47,660
So for the sake of time, I had written out many of the changes, but we've gone through this at the June 5th meeting, as well as a briefly just prior to this meeting.

1216
01:51:47,880 --> 01:51:54,260
So attached to the packet, you'll see the 2324 budget resolutions, you'll find the detailed schedules for each of the funds.

1217
01:51:54,260 --> 01:52:00,320
and there are no material changes to these budgets from the June 5th presentation.

1218
01:52:02,920 --> 01:52:08,200
If there's any questions, I'm happy to answer them, but we would recommend that you approve the 23-24 budgets as presented.

1219
01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:13,240
Is there a motion to approve the 23-24 fiscal year budget as presented?

1220
01:52:14,000 --> 01:52:19,700
Moved by Mrs. Bowles, support by Mrs. Anis, any board discussion.

1221
01:52:22,660 --> 01:52:26,080
Mrs. LaCouille, just a comment that I would make is that it seems

1222
01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:32,160
Things like our revenue and enrollment projections look very aggressive, especially considering the trend of the last few years.

1223
01:52:33,040 --> 01:52:41,920
I know we won't know our enrollment for the next school year until the first couple of weeks of school, but it seems like we're probably going to be lucky to hit 14,300.

1224
01:52:42,880 --> 01:52:50,100
I'm also concerned about the fact that we continue to transfer $90,000 from our general fund into carrying steps with no end in sight.

1225
01:52:50,100 --> 01:52:55,820
And I don't understand why we would expect our tuition to jump by $493,000.

1226
01:53:00,220 --> 01:53:08,160
Mr. McNeil, do you have, because you tend to be fairly conservative on enrollment and revenue.

1227
01:53:08,240 --> 01:53:09,500
Do you have any comments on that?

1228
01:53:11,740 --> 01:53:22,940
Yeah, I can make a couple of comments on that, so current projections show us about 14,455 students enrolled for

1229
01:53:22,940 --> 01:53:27,720
next year as of right now that would include any drops that we're aware of as of the end

1230
01:53:27,720 --> 01:53:34,120
of the school year. Typically there are enrollments. This is kind of, I think, a little bit of

1231
01:53:34,120 --> 01:53:37,160
a lull because we've reached the end of the school year. People aren't necessarily thinking

1232
01:53:37,160 --> 01:53:45,080
about next school year and then July, August picks up those enrollments. So, as Trustee

1233
01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:57,820
We won't know exactly what enrollment is, but right now it's 14,455 TK through 12, which is a little bit below the conservative projections.

1234
01:54:01,380 --> 01:54:02,660
Are there any other questions?

1235
01:54:05,590 --> 01:54:08,070
All right, are there any comments from the public?

1236
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:19,020
All right, at this point there's a motion to approve the 23, 24 fiscal year budget as presented, all those in favor say aye.

1237
01:54:19,020 --> 01:54:19,120
Aye.

1238
01:54:19,660 --> 01:54:20,220
Aye.

1239
01:54:20,780 --> 01:54:21,340
Opposed?

1240
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:22,280
Aye.

1241
01:54:22,280 --> 01:54:23,060
I abstain from voting.

1242
01:54:23,740 --> 01:54:24,900
I'm going to abstain, too.

1243
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,140
That's a 5-0-2 vote.

1244
01:54:29,660 --> 01:54:30,400
The motion passes.

1245
01:54:30,680 --> 01:54:31,300
The budget passes.

1246
01:54:31,760 --> 01:54:38,240
Now moving to what is now 7.8, approval of the 22-23 fiscal year budget amendment.

1247
01:54:39,100 --> 01:54:40,620
Mr. McDaniel, this is you as well.

1248
01:54:40,860 --> 01:54:40,980
Yeah.

1249
01:54:41,120 --> 01:54:41,480
Thank you.

1250
01:54:42,120 --> 01:54:47,720
So just like we said, for the 23-24 budget amendment, these are the final budgets for

1251
01:54:47,720 --> 01:54:53,380
22-23. Attached to the board packet, you'll find the resolutions as well as the schedule

1252
01:54:53,380 --> 01:54:58,840
of proposed changes for the general fund, debt service fund, capital projects bond, capital

1253
01:54:58,840 --> 01:55:03,360
projects sinking, food service, early learning or caring substance fund, student and school

1254
01:55:03,360 --> 01:55:07,500
activity in the bookstore funds. These amended budgets were reviewed in detail at the June

1255
01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:12,800
5th, 2023 Board of Education meeting. Happy to take any questions on them, but would

1256
01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:16,540
I would recommend the board approve these budgets as presented.

1257
01:55:17,000 --> 01:55:17,340
Thank you.

1258
01:55:18,460 --> 01:55:23,580
All right, is there a motion to approve the 2223 fiscal year budget amendment as presented?

1259
01:55:24,280 --> 01:55:30,020
Moved by Mrs. Gupta, support by Mrs. Bowell.

1260
01:55:31,300 --> 01:55:35,480
All right, is there any discussion, Mr. Weaver?

1261
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:42,220
I apologize to the community, I should have done this the first time I actually explained my reason I chose not to vote.

1262
01:55:42,700 --> 01:55:50,980
I'm concerned with the ongoing investigation and unauthorized spending related to our invoices and knowing that our board knows of at least a second one.

1263
01:55:51,540 --> 01:55:58,820
So that's again why I'm abstaining from voting for these, I can't in good faith vote for these budgets when I do not know what the spending was on.

1264
01:55:58,940 --> 01:56:01,020
So again, I will be abstaining from this vote as well.

1265
01:56:01,020 --> 01:56:01,900
Is

1266
01:56:05,680 --> 01:56:06,920
there any discussion on the amendment?

1267
01:56:09,660 --> 01:56:14,480
Mr. McDaniel, you said this is the final amendment, but obviously not potentially the final

1268
01:56:14,480 --> 01:56:15,180
numbers, right?

1269
01:56:15,440 --> 01:56:18,740
Because it doesn't close until June 30th.

1270
01:56:19,020 --> 01:56:19,500
Correct.

1271
01:56:19,740 --> 01:56:24,100
I mean, we will not present another budget to the board, but this is our best guess for what

1272
01:56:24,100 --> 01:56:25,360
you're and the actuals will look like.

1273
01:56:25,860 --> 01:56:31,740
It takes us roughly two months to close the books on the 22-23 fiscal year.

1274
01:56:34,940 --> 01:56:35,260
All right.

1275
01:56:35,260 --> 01:56:36,960
All right, is there any public comment on this?

1276
01:56:38,400 --> 01:56:44,920
All right, seeing none, all those in favor of approving the 22-23 fiscal year budget amendment as presented, please say aye.

1277
01:56:45,760 --> 01:56:45,820
Aye.

1278
01:56:46,500 --> 01:56:47,060
Opposed?

1279
01:56:47,740 --> 01:56:48,140
Abstain?

1280
01:56:49,400 --> 01:56:53,920
That's another 502 vote and the motion passes.

1281
01:56:55,300 --> 01:57:02,600
Now moving on to item 7.9, renewal of district membership to the Michigan High School Athletic Association

1282
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and the Michigan Association of School Boards and the Michigan Association of School Boards Legal Trust Fund, Mr. McDaniel.

1283
01:57:10,520 --> 01:57:18,400
Yes, we are recommending that the Board of Education renew our district membership to the Michigan High School Athletic Association at no cost.

1284
01:57:18,900 --> 01:57:27,220
The Michigan Association of School Boards in the amount of $10,426.94 as well as the MASV Legal Trust Fund in the amount of $437.

1285
01:57:27,220 --> 01:57:27,980
All

1286
01:57:30,540 --> 01:57:38,720
right, is there a motion to approve the renewal of the district membership to the Michigan High School Athletic Association for $0,000?

1287
01:57:38,720 --> 01:57:47,520
The Michigan Association of School Boards for $10,426.94 and the Michigan Association of School Boards legal trust fund for $437.

1288
01:57:48,220 --> 01:57:53,940
Move by Mrs. Anis, support by Mrs. Gupta.

1289
01:57:55,000 --> 01:57:57,360
All right, is there any board discussion?

1290
01:57:59,240 --> 01:58:25,820
Mr. Leader, I would repeat my recommendation, I would ask that we start breaking these up because again a vote for the MHS AA and the vote for the MASV are two completely separate things, obviously when there's money involved with one and not the other, I would like to know what the tangible benefit is to the $10,000 that we pay to the MASM ASB based on the June, January 14th training, they didn't provide anything

1291
01:58:25,820 --> 01:58:30,880
that was actually a better term lack of common sense in the most business world.

1292
01:58:31,920 --> 01:58:39,500
Policy procedure, be transparent, so I'm really trying to understand what the tangible benefit is to the $10,000 that we're paying to them.

1293
01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:45,120
Especially when, again, it seems in a lot of cases we're not even following the best practices that they set for us.

1294
01:58:47,710 --> 01:58:48,410
Mrs. Anis.

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01:58:49,450 --> 01:58:57,090
I just wanted to comment that I was thrilled to see that SIS craters will now be included in the cross country track and

1296
01:58:57,090 --> 01:59:03,930
wrestling, and I know I spoke with you prior to this map, but basketball isn't included

1297
01:59:03,930 --> 01:59:05,230
because it's a cut sport, correct?

1298
01:59:05,550 --> 01:59:06,930
Okay, I just want to clarify that.

1299
01:59:07,530 --> 01:59:18,550
And then regarding our involvement in the renewal of the MESV Association fees, I personally

1300
01:59:18,550 --> 01:59:24,930
find it an invaluable resource as a board member, especially when we choose to tap into the

1301
01:59:24,930 --> 01:59:28,610
a myriad of professional development classes that they offer.

1302
01:59:28,910 --> 01:59:33,850
I know myself and many colleagues sitting at this board have taken advantage of that.

1303
01:59:34,570 --> 01:59:43,270
And I would have to push back on the assumption or the generalization that our training in June, our January wasn't worthy.

1304
01:59:43,830 --> 01:59:53,810
Because they spoke at Nazim about the chain of command and norms which it evidently didn't get picked up by some of our board trustees sitting at this table.

1305
01:59:54,930 --> 01:59:59,890
seeking to understand and to network with other school board members throughout Oakland County.

1306
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:08,480
And the state of Michigan is also a really invaluable resource that the MASB provides as well. So for this reason, I will be voting in renewal of this.

1307
02:00:11,900 --> 02:00:12,800
Mrs. LaCouille.

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02:00:15,330 --> 02:00:34,430
I support renewal to the NHSAA Association, it's $0.00, and I know this is unpopular amongst the majority of this board, but I will echo Trustee Weaver's sentiments there. I don't support renewing our membership to MASB. We don't need that organization to tell us how to do our jobs as board members.

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02:00:34,430 --> 02:00:38,910
We are governed by Michigan Law, the Revise School Code, the Open Meetings Act.

1310
02:00:39,450 --> 02:00:42,190
We don't need to pay quasi-authorities to tell us what to do.

1311
02:00:42,790 --> 02:00:45,910
Most of the time, we can read the law to determine what we should do.

1312
02:00:46,370 --> 02:00:50,430
But if we truly need help with interpretation, we have our district lawyers, as we've seen.

1313
02:00:50,890 --> 02:00:56,050
We don't need to pay $10,000 for the ability to take classes to tell us what we already know,

1314
02:00:56,210 --> 02:00:59,370
or should be able to figure out with conversations with other districts and boards.

1315
02:00:59,830 --> 02:01:02,450
Or we don't need to pay for another lawyer option.

1316
02:01:03,030 --> 02:01:11,210
We're supposed to be a local governing body that is capable of providing checks and balances without relying on a state entity telling us what to do.

1317
02:01:12,290 --> 02:01:16,090
I have not seen that anything we've gotten has really helped us very much with what we've been doing.

1318
02:01:16,230 --> 02:01:19,850
We've been told a lot of the same sort of information that we should already know.

1319
02:01:24,950 --> 02:01:26,490
Are there any other comments?

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02:01:27,190 --> 02:01:27,690
Mrs. Gupta.

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02:01:28,870 --> 02:01:35,290
I would just wonder, and this is kind of just a rhetorical question here to think about

1322
02:01:36,030 --> 02:01:42,710
for those who oppose renewing the MASB membership, how many of their programs have you participated in.

1323
02:01:44,290 --> 02:01:48,230
Just, you know, something to think about that, you know, if you don't give it a try,

1324
02:01:48,490 --> 02:01:51,550
or if you're not open to it, might not be that beneficial.

1325
02:01:51,550 --> 02:01:59,990
But I would support renewing that membership as a board, I think we should be committed to continuous improvement.

1326
02:02:00,350 --> 02:02:04,810
It's not depending on or relinquishing control or delegating control.

1327
02:02:05,210 --> 02:02:11,490
We all still have our own autonomy to vote how we want, according to the information in front of us.

1328
02:02:11,790 --> 02:02:18,630
It's a matter of hearing different perspectives about norms, practices that have been found to be most effective in other places.

1329
02:02:18,630 --> 02:02:24,550
and being able to learn from colleagues across the county about that.

1330
02:02:24,750 --> 02:02:26,510
And people who've done it for longer than us.

1331
02:02:26,790 --> 02:02:29,850
It's about kind of professional humility if you would.

1332
02:02:30,410 --> 02:02:31,950
So for me, I'll be supporting that.

1333
02:02:34,480 --> 02:02:37,840
All right, and I would say, I will be supporting that.

1334
02:02:38,900 --> 02:02:44,000
I have found MASB, I don't think that they mandate how anyone does anything.

1335
02:02:44,260 --> 02:02:49,520
I think they take information that is out there and

1336
02:02:49,520 --> 02:02:50,840
and put together best practices.

1337
02:02:51,340 --> 02:02:53,880
It's an organization that supports school boards,

1338
02:02:54,140 --> 02:02:57,980
that provides a whole host of different courses

1339
02:02:57,980 --> 02:02:59,460
that can be taken.

1340
02:03:00,060 --> 02:03:04,300
They also advocate on behalf of school boards

1341
02:03:04,300 --> 02:03:10,840
and they have individuals that you can reach out to there,

1342
02:03:10,960 --> 02:03:15,640
whether they are attorneys or individuals

1343
02:03:15,640 --> 02:03:18,320
who can just answer general questions as well.

1344
02:03:18,320 --> 02:03:26,600
So, at this point, my question, can anyone provide one tangible benefit that we have this

1345
02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:29,620
year that came directly from the MSAV, MSAV?

1346
02:03:30,620 --> 02:03:31,300
I mean, MSAV?

1347
02:03:31,620 --> 02:03:32,040
Yeah, MSAV.

1348
02:03:33,660 --> 02:03:36,260
I guess I don't know what you mean specifically by tangible.

1349
02:03:36,700 --> 02:03:43,420
I mean, I know that I took the President's workshop, I found that very valuable in giving suggestions

1350
02:03:43,420 --> 02:03:46,860
and hearing from other board members who are there on things that they do.

1351
02:03:46,860 --> 02:03:53,720
So it's a, you know, a lot of it is an individual self-improvement to be able to become informed and learn more.

1352
02:03:54,380 --> 02:04:04,980
I know that I've been able to reach out to the attorney there to get information without having to pay additional funds for that.

1353
02:04:05,500 --> 02:04:07,980
So I'm not sure exactly what you mean by tangible.

1354
02:04:09,140 --> 02:04:12,100
Did that lead to our meetings being ran better?

1355
02:04:12,100 --> 02:04:13,780
did it lead to a policy chain?

1356
02:04:13,960 --> 02:04:17,240
I mean, I'm asking what it's $10,000 that could be in our classrooms.

1357
02:04:17,960 --> 02:04:22,380
And again, honestly, everything in the January 14th class was very much-

1358
02:04:22,380 --> 02:04:22,520
Thank you.

1359
02:04:22,520 --> 02:04:22,960
I was still speaking.

1360
02:04:23,300 --> 02:04:24,200
I didn't finish speaking-

1361
02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:25,140
I was-

1362
02:04:25,140 --> 02:04:26,220
I had the floor-

1363
02:04:26,380 --> 02:04:26,740
I thought you were-

1364
02:04:26,740 --> 02:04:27,500
I had the floor.

1365
02:04:27,940 --> 02:04:28,320
I had the floor.

1366
02:04:28,800 --> 02:04:34,200
So again, I'm just trying to understand again that is exactly where we're at, is we're spending $10,000.

1367
02:04:34,680 --> 02:04:40,760
The training on January 14th was very much a very standard corporate training of policy

1368
02:04:40,760 --> 02:04:46,280
procedure, open transparency, it was nothing special.

1369
02:04:47,240 --> 02:04:53,620
The actual trainers there, open meetings act, all of that was again straight forward.

1370
02:04:54,080 --> 02:04:57,840
We then paid Miller Johnson to come and February and tell us a lot of the same stuff.

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02:04:58,180 --> 02:05:03,660
So again, it just seemed redundant at this point and to be firmly honest, to Trustee LaCouille's

1372
02:05:03,660 --> 02:05:10,660
point, the approach that we should be taking is, these funds, we don't need an entity

1373
02:05:10,660 --> 02:05:19,560
entity that is an association that is making money off of, and we can network with different districts ourselves.

1374
02:05:19,720 --> 02:05:24,380
We don't have to be money for that, just again, really questioning the idea of spending money for

1375
02:05:24,380 --> 02:05:27,100
stuff that we really can do ourselves that really shouldn't cost any money.

1376
02:05:27,560 --> 02:05:32,920
Again, go out meet other trustees and network, ask best practices, build relationships.

1377
02:05:33,120 --> 02:05:34,200
We should be able to do that for free.

1378
02:05:36,580 --> 02:05:37,120
Mrs. Anis,

1379
02:05:45,640 --> 02:05:48,000
right, so at this, Mrs. Liquid.

1380
02:05:48,960 --> 02:05:56,980
I was at the training, I've talked with the lawyer from the MSB, I've browsed the magazine, I've seen a lot of talking points that we've seen paraded here.

1381
02:05:57,540 --> 02:06:03,580
I'm mostly judging the courses to not be very effective because sometimes even when board members attend those courses,

1382
02:06:04,220 --> 02:06:10,000
they don't take actions that they are supposed to take as board members and they aren't fulfilling their job role correctly.

1383
02:06:10,000 --> 02:06:22,820
So that's how I'm basically making my assessment that the MASB is not providing us what they're supposed to be providing us and it's $10,000 I would rather give that to our teachers and students.

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02:06:26,370 --> 02:06:29,010
All right, is there any public comment at this point?

1385
02:06:30,730 --> 02:06:40,230
All right, all those in favor of the motion to approve the renewal of the district membership to the MHSA,

1386
02:06:40,230 --> 02:06:44,730
A.A., the M.A.S.B., and the M.A.S.B. Legal Trust Fund, please say aye.

1387
02:06:45,170 --> 02:06:45,470
Aye.

1388
02:06:45,530 --> 02:06:45,710
Aye.

1389
02:06:46,410 --> 02:06:46,930
Opposed?

1390
02:06:48,570 --> 02:06:51,810
That's a five to vote the motion passes.

1391
02:06:55,380 --> 02:06:55,600
All right.

1392
02:06:55,720 --> 02:07:03,220
We are on to 7.10, 2023, 2024 organizational items.

1393
02:07:03,620 --> 02:07:04,200
Mr. McDaniel.

1394
02:07:05,760 --> 02:07:06,780
Thank you, Madam President.

1395
02:07:07,580 --> 02:07:11,000
Each year the Board of Education is asked to approve the annual organizational items.

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02:07:11,000 --> 02:07:14,000
This year, we updated titles to reflect current designations.

1397
02:07:14,860 --> 02:07:24,600
We also updated the designation of property and liability insurance carriers to citizens insurance from the Hanover insurance group, as for property fleet, general and other liability insurance coverage.

1398
02:07:25,160 --> 02:07:31,860
Also, comprehensive risk services incorporated and bridge access solutions to provide workers compensation coverage.

1399
02:07:32,340 --> 02:07:35,500
And then, Schoon was updated to reflect general school legal matters.

1400
02:07:37,820 --> 02:07:38,600
Thank you.

1401
02:07:38,600 --> 02:07:44,280
Thank you. Is there a motion to approve the 2324 organizational items as presented?

1402
02:07:45,100 --> 02:07:50,200
Moved by Mrs. Bowles, support by Mrs. Gupta, board discussion.

1403
02:07:52,800 --> 02:07:53,380
Mrs. LaCouille.

1404
02:07:55,100 --> 02:07:59,400
I have a concern about item number six, which is the designation of District Legal Council

1405
02:07:59,400 --> 02:08:05,780
representation. I would suggest I move to amend to remove Collins and Blaha.

1406
02:08:05,780 --> 02:08:11,240
We have many complaints of interest with that firm and we already have a firm for general school legal matters

1407
02:08:11,780 --> 02:08:15,960
I also wonder why we need three different firms for business matters

1408
02:08:17,600 --> 02:08:25,020
Maybe are we paying all of these firms on retainer or who's on retainer who's not and how much does that cost?

1409
02:08:26,440 --> 02:08:32,600
Mr. McDaniel, do you know the answer to that? Yeah, so for the business firms. I believe that's NAG's break

1410
02:08:32,600 --> 02:08:36,140
make. Sorry, let me just open the packet.

1411
02:08:39,700 --> 02:08:42,680
We do pay a retainer to Trune.

1412
02:08:47,100 --> 02:08:47,760
Mr. Murphy, I believe

1413
02:08:47,760 --> 02:08:54,040
there's a retainer to Miller Johnson as well. Yeah, I think I don't want to quote the amount.

1414
02:08:54,460 --> 02:09:03,000
A couple thousand dollars, I think, for policy consulting annually. I can get the exact amount.

1415
02:09:03,000 --> 02:09:03,600
There

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02:09:07,510 --> 02:09:08,530
are almost there.

1417
02:09:19,120 --> 02:09:21,640
All right, Trustee Leque, that was item 6, I believe you said.

1418
02:09:22,460 --> 02:09:22,900
Yep,

1419
02:09:25,200 --> 02:09:31,460
here we go. So, Hain and Keith Raymond Dawes, I'm not aware of any retainer, same

1420
02:09:31,460 --> 02:09:39,660
for NAG's break, for business manners, and Clark Kill, we may pay a retainer, too.

1421
02:09:42,000 --> 02:09:48,860
Thank you. Is that Mrs. Miss Lewis? Thank you. And then I'm not aware of a retainer

1422
02:09:48,860 --> 02:09:49,700
to Collins and Baja.

1423
02:09:53,160 --> 02:09:56,520
Mr. McDaniel, can you also, I know that NAGS break

1424
02:09:56,520 --> 02:10:01,740
and the Henneke, we use them for specific items, right?

1425
02:10:01,740 --> 02:10:05,980
Yep, so Henneke, Freeman Dawes, their expertise

1426
02:10:05,980 --> 02:10:09,420
is with real estate, and then NAGS breaks expertise

1427
02:10:09,420 --> 02:10:10,960
is environmental issues.

1428
02:10:16,250 --> 02:10:18,830
Okay, are there any other questions, Mr. Weaver?

1429
02:10:19,490 --> 02:10:20,910
At the last meeting it was asked,

1430
02:10:21,090 --> 02:10:22,970
when was Miller Johnson authorized?

1431
02:10:23,570 --> 02:10:25,070
When did the board vote to make them

1432
02:10:25,070 --> 02:10:29,910
and start developing policy, again, policy isn't a purview of the board, and it seems

1433
02:10:29,910 --> 02:10:34,710
again that we're paying Miller Johnson to do that without, again, any oversight at this

1434
02:10:34,710 --> 02:10:37,970
point. So I'm looking to see when was that authorized?

1435
02:10:39,610 --> 02:10:44,730
I would correct that we have a committee meeting and we've met recently, so there is oversight

1436
02:10:44,730 --> 02:10:45,130
to them.

1437
02:10:46,330 --> 02:10:49,690
They have written policy prior to that, and obviously I'm asking when they were authorized,

1438
02:10:49,950 --> 02:10:53,610
so just because we started having a meeting now, so I'm glad we decided to have some oversight,

1439
02:10:53,610 --> 02:10:58,350
I'm asking when they were authorized since we've been paying them for quite some time.

1440
02:10:58,750 --> 02:11:04,570
And it was stated during the handbook meeting that they are drafting the policies basically to allow

1441
02:11:05,310 --> 02:11:09,350
what has been done in the powers that have invested in the president.

1442
02:11:09,690 --> 02:11:13,250
That they are working to make sure that those are quantified because that's been questioned a lot.

1443
02:11:14,950 --> 02:11:18,030
I don't have the answer to specifically when they were approved.

1444
02:11:18,030 --> 02:11:40,370
I know originally it was with Lusk Albertson, and then they became Miller Johnson, and every year we vote at the same time where they're listed, so every year it's a renewal of that, but when it originally started, I mean, I don't know, I don't know if you, that was before your time Mr. McDaniel as well.

1445
02:11:41,310 --> 02:11:48,190
Yeah, I mean, we can look at it. The Board approves legal firms every year. So, I'm trying

1446
02:11:48,190 --> 02:11:49,430
to go back and look to see.

1447
02:11:54,310 --> 02:11:56,610
I guess the question I'm specifically asking, when was the vote

1448
02:11:56,610 --> 02:12:01,470
to authorize them to be basically be the policy developer and develop policy for the board?

1449
02:12:02,270 --> 02:12:06,750
Yeah, each year this designation is legal counsel Miller Johnson for student human resource and

1450
02:12:06,750 --> 02:12:13,850
policy matters. So as a board, is there any description of what that means? Are they just right policy

1451
02:12:13,850 --> 02:12:14,850
before us, what does that mean?

1452
02:12:16,030 --> 02:12:17,310
I can answer it a little bit.

1453
02:12:17,450 --> 02:12:22,610
The retainer portion is for annual updates that typically come in June or July, usually

1454
02:12:22,610 --> 02:12:28,050
based on changes in legal ease or updates based on new laws.

1455
02:12:29,590 --> 02:12:36,390
Essentially, that's what we're paying for as a retainer to keep our language up to date,

1456
02:12:37,240 --> 02:12:43,650
meeting legal mandates, and then as best practices may be established or they may recommend a

1457
02:12:43,650 --> 02:12:50,470
certain policy that maybe is more of a more current issue to share those as well.

1458
02:12:50,690 --> 02:12:53,330
Those are recently came out last week for this year.

1459
02:12:54,090 --> 02:13:12,170
So those will be contained in the recommendations of the project that they're doing to update our numbering and our language to bring it up to speed that we've been discussing over the past few months and that we've been meeting in the subcommittee meeting to discuss and to keep updated on as well.

1460
02:13:13,650 --> 02:13:18,130
My concern, though, is we had to pay them additional money to develop, which is

1461
02:13:18,130 --> 02:13:21,570
end up doing a really bad one, a policy to handle complaints.

1462
02:13:21,810 --> 02:13:23,290
We had to pay separately for that.

1463
02:13:24,710 --> 02:13:27,950
Companies like Naila, and I'm probably pronouncing that wrong, I apologize.

1464
02:13:28,810 --> 02:13:33,270
They offer, once you pay their one-time fee, you get access to their book.

1465
02:13:33,410 --> 02:13:35,050
They work with you, yes, there's maintenance fees.

1466
02:13:35,570 --> 02:13:38,550
So again, I'm concerned on what this relationship is with Miller Johnson,

1467
02:13:38,630 --> 02:13:41,790
and that it seems like when we had to request a policy,

1468
02:13:41,790 --> 02:13:47,950
It costs us additional money, so is that not covered under our retainer and their policy?

1469
02:13:48,250 --> 02:13:54,690
Because again, we also have to understand when they are working on policy, that is no longer legal advice or legal opinion.

1470
02:13:55,070 --> 02:14:00,410
They've generated a second revenue stream into their business model, which is policy.

1471
02:14:01,090 --> 02:14:05,110
And so when they're giving us that advice, that is no longer covered by attorney client privilege and

1472
02:14:05,110 --> 02:14:07,330
should be all done in transparency with our board.

1473
02:14:08,790 --> 02:14:10,630
I'm sorry, transparency with our community.

1474
02:14:10,630 --> 02:14:21,470
To answer a bit of that question, you're correct, and that additional projects are just additional questions are going to be billed additionally from that retainer that retainer's a base amount for those annual updates.

1475
02:14:24,100 --> 02:14:27,260
So, it doesn't cover policy development at all.

1476
02:14:30,680 --> 02:14:34,820
I wouldn't say that, because I think an annual update is policy development.

1477
02:14:35,320 --> 02:14:44,120
But if you give, if you're paying your retainer for to keep your language up to speed and up to date and get that annual update per say.

1478
02:14:44,120 --> 02:14:50,760
And then you give the same attorneys an additional project because you want a specific policy in an area

1479
02:14:50,760 --> 02:14:54,680
Maybe that they've never worked before that they're going to bill you additionally for that correct

1480
02:14:55,700 --> 02:14:59,800
So again, this is where I'm going to grant the board I one I think we should

1481
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:29,880
We need to revisit that. We need to understand what it looks like to develop this, what the business model is. Neola has presented a proposal. I've shared that with the board. It is a clear cost. We can see what it is. We have access to the policy period. They are one of the best practices, or one of the gold standards in the industry. Again, the data showed 50% I think in Oakland County use it. Because what we have right now currently is not very good. There doesn't seem to be a plan to get our policies where they need

1482
02:15:29,880 --> 02:15:35,060
I need to be, I'm glad Miller Johnson did put their logo on our policy book, that's nice, cost us.

1483
02:15:35,760 --> 02:15:41,340
But I would like to see us revisit truly what it means to get our policies in order and

1484
02:15:41,340 --> 02:15:45,320
be able to look in a business case side by side because right now we can't even look at one for Miller Johnson.

1485
02:15:45,820 --> 02:15:49,340
And again, and that's in no one's fault in the district.

1486
02:15:49,640 --> 02:15:52,420
That is the board's responsibility as policy and we've dropped the ball.

1487
02:15:52,620 --> 02:15:57,160
So I think we need to add that to agenda to actually address how we're going to develop policy and

1488
02:15:57,160 --> 02:15:59,340
what the end goal of policy looks like for our district.

1489
02:16:02,250 --> 02:16:02,830
Dr. Alsba.

1490
02:16:03,590 --> 02:16:05,570
So we are meeting in the policy committee

1491
02:16:05,570 --> 02:16:07,170
and we do have a process.

1492
02:16:07,990 --> 02:16:10,290
If you look at our policy document right now,

1493
02:16:11,350 --> 02:16:14,730
the consensus we understand it's more of an organic document.

1494
02:16:15,290 --> 02:16:18,570
It's really not formatted consistently and things like that.

1495
02:16:19,210 --> 02:16:21,790
So we've been meeting at least twice

1496
02:16:22,450 --> 02:16:25,410
and Miller Johnson is in the process of doing a crosswalk.

1497
02:16:26,190 --> 02:16:27,510
And they have shared with us

1498
02:16:27,510 --> 02:16:32,510
that they'll be coming up that soon and we have three members of the Board and it's a

1499
02:16:32,510 --> 02:16:37,990
superintendent's committee. So we do have a process and when that comes now they're not

1500
02:16:37,990 --> 02:16:43,630
inventing policy, they're using their best practices and it will come before the board

1501
02:16:43,630 --> 02:16:47,930
and in the end we'll have the final say. But there is a process and there is work we're

1502
02:16:47,930 --> 02:16:48,730
doing in that area.

1503
02:16:50,930 --> 02:16:55,310
Yeah, which is, I was going to echo that a little bit and just to clarify so everyone's

1504
02:16:55,310 --> 02:17:00,050
So where are the, anything recommended is the full purview of the board to approve or not.

1505
02:17:00,330 --> 02:17:06,930
You still have a say and a vote in that and it's your full purview as well to use Miller Johnson or not for this purpose.

1506
02:17:07,330 --> 02:17:16,570
I would say that Mr. Sutton who does the majority of work on this is a pretty renowned expert in this area across the state, very well respected.

1507
02:17:17,450 --> 02:17:22,670
Again, it's your choice in the end whether we continue to utilize the services for this.

1508
02:17:22,670 --> 02:17:28,610
but I've found it to be very responsive along the way, and again, I think they're coming

1509
02:17:28,610 --> 02:17:35,230
very soon with what those recommendations are for next year based on their annual updates

1510
02:17:35,230 --> 02:17:39,310
that they give to all their clients, but in addition to that, looking at the redundancies

1511
02:17:39,310 --> 02:17:45,890
that may be in our document, repetitive where it's found in multiple locations, recommendations

1512
02:17:45,890 --> 02:17:47,230
along those lines too.

1513
02:17:47,410 --> 02:17:51,970
So I do think that's going to be a valuable step in the process, no matter what we end

1514
02:17:51,970 --> 02:17:53,750
up doing with policy in the future.

1515
02:17:58,710 --> 02:18:06,750
Mrs. LaCouille, I move to amend this document to remove Collins and Blaha as our Council

1516
02:18:06,750 --> 02:18:08,350
for General School Legal Matters.

1517
02:18:08,890 --> 02:18:11,150
There are too many conflicts of interest with this firm.

1518
02:18:14,020 --> 02:18:14,220
All right.

1519
02:18:14,380 --> 02:18:20,980
We have a motion by Mrs. LaCouille to amend the organizational items to remove Collins and

1520
02:18:20,980 --> 02:18:21,340
Blaha.

1521
02:18:21,620 --> 02:18:23,820
Is there a support for that?

1522
02:18:24,800 --> 02:18:25,420
Mr. Weaver.

1523
02:18:26,020 --> 02:18:26,580
All right.

1524
02:18:26,580 --> 02:18:30,300
And Mrs. LaCouille, you already spoke or did you wish to say something else?

1525
02:18:35,260 --> 02:18:50,920
Well, I've written many emails to the full board documenting all of the conflicts of interest that we have with Collins and Blaha, some of those we can talk about and some of those we can't talk about, but we know that there's been huge problems with that firm, and I don't want any part of that.

1526
02:18:54,300 --> 02:18:57,100
All right, is there any other comment from the board, Dr. Alsbach?

1527
02:18:57,100 --> 02:19:03,620
So, I understand Trustee LaCouille and I share her concern.

1528
02:19:04,060 --> 02:19:09,920
My only concern would be, what would that do to matters that we have ongoing with them.

1529
02:19:10,460 --> 02:19:15,600
Possibly maybe that we only use them on projects they've already started and we don't initiate

1530
02:19:15,600 --> 02:19:16,660
any new work with them.

1531
02:19:17,260 --> 02:19:22,420
But again, I don't know everything they're working on right now but if there's a project

1532
02:19:22,420 --> 02:19:28,760
they're in the middle of, would somehow we're moving them from this damage initiatives,

1533
02:19:30,180 --> 02:19:34,000
things are working out. I don't know. That'd be my question, but I do share your concern.

1534
02:19:37,350 --> 02:19:37,870
Mrs. Gupta.

1535
02:19:40,190 --> 02:19:42,310
I also share concerns about this firm.

1536
02:19:44,550 --> 02:19:48,370
And I agree with Dr. Olsbach that I'd

1537
02:19:48,370 --> 02:19:55,390
be concerned about projects underway, but I would be amenable to an amendment to the

1538
02:19:55,390 --> 02:19:58,670
motion that says we won't start any new projects with this firm.

1539
02:20:04,070 --> 02:20:10,470
So Mrs. LaCouillou, you heard that, are you interested in amending your

1540
02:20:10,470 --> 02:20:13,290
motion or you want to carry it through with what you have right now?

1541
02:20:16,780 --> 02:20:20,440
I wouldn't trust this firm to carry out whatever projects they're working on.

1542
02:20:20,540 --> 02:20:22,780
They've demonstrated that they're very untrustworthy.

1543
02:20:23,500 --> 02:20:26,720
We should use another firm that we have for general school legal matters,

1544
02:20:27,040 --> 02:20:28,540
which we do have on this list.

1545
02:20:28,980 --> 02:20:31,200
I'm not aware of what projects they're working on right now.

1546
02:20:31,200 --> 02:20:34,900
So that also brings up a concern in my mind.

1547
02:20:36,680 --> 02:20:42,320
Okay, so at this point, we have a motion to amend the organizational items to remove Collins and Blaha.

1548
02:20:42,980 --> 02:20:43,880
Is there any other discussion?

1549
02:20:44,060 --> 02:20:44,600
I have more more comments.

1550
02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:47,880
So I think the points are raised are all valid.

1551
02:20:48,280 --> 02:20:53,700
I also think it is well-pervuted to make sure that all Collins and Blaha's projects get assigned and

1552
02:20:53,700 --> 02:20:56,920
they turn overall information related to our district to one of our other law firms.

1553
02:20:56,920 --> 02:21:06,540
And so I think we can alleviate that through, again, very clear standards that are district as the client has every right to do.

1554
02:21:07,740 --> 02:21:13,780
And so again, I support Trustee Lucuis amendment.

1555
02:21:14,080 --> 02:21:19,220
And again, I think we can alleviate the valid concerns that Trustee Goupte and

1556
02:21:19,220 --> 02:21:21,000
Trustee Osprey has raised.

1557
02:21:21,480 --> 02:21:25,140
There is no reason for us to continue to do business with count and blah.

1558
02:21:27,770 --> 02:21:37,530
But again, what impact will this have, I am, this is a legal, you know, this is a legal partnership, I haven't heard one impact it would have.

1559
02:21:38,990 --> 02:21:54,990
Mrs. Bull, I think that we've heard the concerns about Collins and Blaha, I am in favor of keeping them on this list, because I don't know what is in the works and what it would do to projects that are outstanding right now.

1560
02:21:54,990 --> 02:22:04,750
law is complicated and I do trust President Butel to make decisions and she has heard all

1561
02:22:04,750 --> 02:22:12,030
of our concerns and I trust her to make decisions for our legal counsel based on our feelings.

1562
02:22:15,050 --> 02:22:15,950
Mr. McDaniel.

1563
02:22:16,750 --> 02:22:17,850
Madam President, thank you.

1564
02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:25,630
I just want to, I guess, make a comment that it's interesting that Carol Bethelakui is making

1565
02:22:25,630 --> 02:22:31,430
a motion against columns and Blaha, who I believe she is aware is consulting the district

1566
02:22:31,430 --> 02:22:35,270
on our response to her lawsuit against us.

1567
02:22:35,510 --> 02:22:37,730
So, I just wanted to make mention of that.

1568
02:22:37,930 --> 02:22:38,170
Thank you.

1569
02:22:40,680 --> 02:22:43,720
All right, so we have a motion to amend to remove.

1570
02:22:44,000 --> 02:22:49,060
Madam President, Mrs. LaCouille, columns and Blaha is not the law firm that's assigned to

1571
02:22:49,060 --> 02:22:49,740
work on my case.

1572
02:22:50,100 --> 02:22:55,500
It is a little suspect that they are also weighing in on it, but if you'd like, you could redirect

1573
02:22:55,500 --> 02:22:58,240
In fact, there work to another law firm who could help you.

1574
02:22:58,980 --> 02:23:06,500
It still doesn't, we have a motion to amend to remove cowons in Blaha from the organizational items.

1575
02:23:07,680 --> 02:23:14,700
So all of those in favor of amending the original motion to remove cowons in Blaha, please say aye.

1576
02:23:14,700 --> 02:23:14,840
Aye.

1577
02:23:15,360 --> 02:23:16,000
Aye.

1578
02:23:17,060 --> 02:23:19,280
Those opposed, please say no.

1579
02:23:20,060 --> 02:23:20,240
No.

1580
02:23:20,240 --> 02:23:20,380
No.

1581
02:23:24,160 --> 02:23:29,620
That's a two, four, one vote, the motion, the amendment does not pass.

1582
02:23:30,560 --> 02:23:36,040
We are back to a motion to approve the 23, 24 organizational items as presented.

1583
02:23:37,260 --> 02:23:40,420
Is there any public comment at this time?

1584
02:23:42,280 --> 02:23:42,880
Mr. Raymond.

1585
02:23:42,880 --> 02:23:43,940
Good

1586
02:23:47,880 --> 02:24:15,420
evening board back in 2016 to 2017 maybe we had a law firm help us rewrite pretty much all of our board policies stripping almost all the board power and giving it to the superintendent I do not recall which law firm that was however

1587
02:24:15,420 --> 02:24:27,780
However, it seems that that has been a very bad idea, and I would recommend whatever law firm that was not be employed by RCS at all, thank you.

1588
02:24:32,880 --> 02:24:33,540
Mrs. Vandale.

1589
02:24:38,050 --> 02:24:46,470
You are the customer, the lawyers are supposed to follow your orders as the board.

1590
02:24:46,470 --> 02:24:53,270
If you tell them you want to cut ties with them they are obligated, ethically

1591
02:24:53,270 --> 02:25:00,150
obligated to hand over all of the materials that they were working upon to the

1592
02:25:00,150 --> 02:25:07,790
new lawyers that you want them to order with. That is this is ridiculous that you

1593
02:25:07,790 --> 02:25:13,230
wouldn't kick out Collins and Blaha when you sit all of you are sitting up

1594
02:25:13,230 --> 02:25:18,570
they're saying you have conflicts of interest with them. The board has conflicts of interest.

1595
02:25:19,170 --> 02:25:26,430
And then you, Mr. McDaniel, so funny that Carol Bath is getting, you know, getting

1596
02:25:26,430 --> 02:25:34,270
in. Please, please stop. Oh, shut up. Shut up. I am talking. I have my time to talk.

1597
02:25:34,270 --> 02:25:43,550
you will listen and you need to be by me, you know, I don't care. It is you are the

1598
02:25:43,550 --> 02:25:49,790
customer it is the ethics of the lawyers to hand everything every single scrap of

1599
02:25:49,790 --> 02:25:56,410
paper over and if they don't, if they don't transfer their work, then they are up

1600
02:25:56,410 --> 02:25:59,250
Not to get sued by you, thank you.

1601
02:26:02,320 --> 02:26:08,800
All right, the motion is to approve the 23-24 organizational items as presented.

1602
02:26:09,300 --> 02:26:11,080
All those in favor, please say aye.

1603
02:26:11,700 --> 02:26:11,900
Aye.

1604
02:26:12,660 --> 02:26:13,260
Opposed?

1605
02:26:14,300 --> 02:26:14,680
No.

1606
02:26:15,100 --> 02:26:18,200
That's a five to vote the motion passes.

1607
02:26:18,600 --> 02:26:24,000
Moving on to what is now 7.11, change order, Mr. McDaniel.

1608
02:26:24,320 --> 02:26:25,340
Thank you, Madam President.

1609
02:26:25,340 --> 02:26:35,340
So, on July 26, 2021, Board of Education approved the purchase of 25 school buses from Midwest Transit Equipment through the MSBO Cooperative Bus Purchase Program.

1610
02:26:36,680 --> 02:26:40,900
This included 747 passenger special education buses.

1611
02:26:41,700 --> 02:26:50,020
These buses included air conditioning units, however due to the delayed delivery and closing of the business originally contracted to install the air conditioning units.

1612
02:26:50,400 --> 02:26:51,800
We are requesting a change order.

1613
02:26:51,800 --> 02:26:56,660
The district negotiated with Midwest Transit Equipment to split the additional costs incurred

1614
02:26:56,660 --> 02:27:00,560
half and half due to the closure of the aforementioned business.

1615
02:27:01,180 --> 02:27:05,660
The source of funding is the general fund based on this information and recommend that

1616
02:27:05,660 --> 02:27:10,120
the Board of Education award Midwest Transit Equipment for the purchase of school bus air

1617
02:27:10,120 --> 02:27:18,540
conditioner installation for 7 buses at $950 each total cost was 1,900 for total project

1618
02:27:18,540 --> 02:27:21,520
that cost for the seven buses of $6,650.

1619
02:27:22,180 --> 02:27:22,440
Thank you.

1620
02:27:24,710 --> 02:27:25,550
Thank you.

1621
02:27:26,210 --> 02:27:29,090
Is there a motion to approve the change order as presented?

1622
02:27:29,470 --> 02:27:34,110
Moved by Dr. Allspie with support by Mrs. Anis.

1623
02:27:34,910 --> 02:27:35,910
Any discussion?

1624
02:27:38,640 --> 02:27:40,680
Is there any public comment on this?

1625
02:27:43,360 --> 02:27:45,480
All right, all of those in favor of approving

1626
02:27:45,480 --> 02:27:48,100
the change order as presented, please say aye.

1627
02:27:48,580 --> 02:27:48,740
Aye.

1628
02:27:49,520 --> 02:27:50,120
Opposed?

1629
02:27:50,120 --> 02:27:53,680
that's a 7-0 vote in the motion passes.

1630
02:27:55,140 --> 02:28:01,500
Moving on to 7.12, the Delta Kelly sewer easement agreement extension.

1631
02:28:01,920 --> 02:28:03,300
Mr. McDaniel.

1632
02:28:03,680 --> 02:28:04,780
Yes, thank you, Madam President.

1633
02:28:05,740 --> 02:28:10,680
In 2019, the district executed an easement agreement option with ABB properties.

1634
02:28:11,420 --> 02:28:15,360
The terms of the agreement allowed ABB properties to install and maintain a sewer line across the

1635
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:16,740
property of Delta Kelly Elementary.

1636
02:28:16,740 --> 02:28:21,480
The option agreement was for three years, but could not be exercised unless all governmental

1637
02:28:21,480 --> 02:28:22,880
approvals have been attained.

1638
02:28:23,740 --> 02:28:28,640
The agreement required a $2,000 non-refundable payment, as well as a $9,000 payment to execute

1639
02:28:28,640 --> 02:28:29,160
the option.

1640
02:28:30,580 --> 02:28:34,840
Any property utilized for the easement is to be restored to its previous condition.

1641
02:28:35,380 --> 02:28:38,500
This agreement was signed on August 21, 2019.

1642
02:28:39,320 --> 02:28:44,400
Due to the COVID-19 pandemic, the timeline of the approval process was slowed and approval

1643
02:28:44,400 --> 02:28:51,660
was not granted by August 21st, 2022, allowing ABB properties to execute the agreement.

1644
02:28:51,920 --> 02:28:55,640
Since that time, the government approvals have been obtained.

1645
02:28:56,160 --> 02:28:58,440
The agreement has since been transferred to Movesary.

1646
02:28:59,280 --> 02:29:03,340
Based on this information, we recommend that the Board of Education approve a one-year extension

1647
02:29:03,860 --> 02:29:08,320
to the original agreement and authorize the administration to execute the extension documents,

1648
02:29:08,320 --> 02:29:10,020
which were included in the packet for the board.

1649
02:29:10,580 --> 02:29:10,940
Thank you.

1650
02:29:12,640 --> 02:29:17,380
Is there a motion to approve the Delta-Kell-A sewer easement agreement extension as presented?

1651
02:29:18,360 --> 02:29:23,000
Moved by Mrs. Gupta, support by Dr. Alsberg.

1652
02:29:23,760 --> 02:29:24,620
Board discussion?

1653
02:29:29,310 --> 02:29:38,070
I will just ask, so with this extension, is there any financial ramifications pro or con for

1654
02:29:38,070 --> 02:29:38,450
the district?

1655
02:29:39,690 --> 02:29:46,550
The district hasn't provided a $9,000 payment to execute the option and the hope is, I believe

1656
02:29:46,550 --> 02:29:51,450
with the more serious, dominant more serious here, but I hope that once the board approves

1657
02:29:51,450 --> 02:29:56,270
that they will start work over the summer as the goal so that they don't impact any school

1658
02:29:56,270 --> 02:29:57,130
district operations.

1659
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:17,640
All right, and is, is that a hope or is that part of the agreement that it would be. Yeah, they believe that this would have been completed. However, you know, we were waiting on board approval. So it looks like Dominic can speak to that a little bit greater detail than I can.

1660
02:30:21,810 --> 02:30:32,630
Hello, everybody. Dominic more Sherry. Thank you for your time. I've been speaking to our contractors this afternoon before today's meeting. We are in schedule for July 10. Start.

1661
02:30:32,630 --> 02:30:37,810
it's about a 10 to 12 day working period so it will be done before the school

1662
02:30:37,810 --> 02:30:39,770
season commences in the fall.

1663
02:30:42,140 --> 02:30:44,880
Thank you very much. Yeah. Is there any other

1664
02:30:44,880 --> 02:30:50,880
board discussion? Is there any public comment on this? All right. All those in

1665
02:30:50,880 --> 02:30:55,420
favor of approving the Delta Kelly sewer easement agreement extension please say

1666
02:30:55,420 --> 02:31:02,440
aye. Aye. Opposed. All right. That's a 7-0 vote and that motion passes.

1667
02:31:09,410 --> 02:31:09,650
All right

1668
02:31:09,650 --> 02:31:14,630
All right, moving on to what is now 7.13.

1669
02:31:15,930 --> 02:31:21,570
I am recommending that the Board of Education approve a $5,000 monthly stipend for Mrs.

1670
02:31:21,770 --> 02:31:27,250
Fraga-Meni for the months of April, May, and June for the additional duties and responsibilities that have been assigned.

1671
02:31:27,790 --> 02:31:28,670
Is there support?

1672
02:31:29,970 --> 02:31:31,010
Mrs. Anis.

1673
02:31:32,330 --> 02:31:36,830
And then board discussion, I will start on this.

1674
02:31:36,830 --> 02:31:39,630
This three months ago Mrs.

1675
02:31:39,770 --> 02:31:42,570
Fraga-Meney was asked to take on the role of acting superintendent.

1676
02:31:43,110 --> 02:31:46,910
She has been diligently performing two roles for Rochester Community School's sense.

1677
02:31:47,270 --> 02:31:50,450
Acting superintendent and WD superintendent of teaching and learning.

1678
02:31:51,090 --> 02:32:02,790
In that dual capacity, Mrs. Fraga-Meney has not only successfully managed her own key operational responsibilities for the district, but has stepped up to fulfill the additional duties of superintendent during the last three months.

1679
02:32:02,790 --> 02:32:09,550
Those duties have included representing RCS at district events, representing RCS at educational and community events,

1680
02:32:10,210 --> 02:32:13,730
managing in collaboration with the Assistant Superintendent of Business and Operations,

1681
02:32:14,070 --> 02:32:17,830
the presentation of a balanced 2324 budget to the Board of Education,

1682
02:32:18,590 --> 02:32:21,910
managing in collaboration with the Assistant Superintendent of Human Resources,

1683
02:32:22,270 --> 02:32:25,690
the Negotiation of a Contract with the Rochester Administrators Association,

1684
02:32:26,190 --> 02:32:28,630
and the search for new administrators across the district.

1685
02:32:28,630 --> 02:32:32,930
She's been leading cabinet in all facets of our district's operations.

1686
02:32:33,610 --> 02:32:37,170
She's ensuring the completion of all cabinet members and

1687
02:32:37,170 --> 02:32:40,770
secretarial performance evaluations for the 22-23 school year.

1688
02:32:42,010 --> 02:32:44,410
Scheduling, she's been scheduling leading attending and

1689
02:32:44,410 --> 02:32:49,090
participating in the superintendent's steering committee, the superintendent's business and operations committee,

1690
02:32:49,350 --> 02:32:57,510
and superintendent's policy and curriculum committee in collaboration with assistant superintendent of business and operations, and the assistant superintendent of human resources.

1691
02:32:58,230 --> 02:33:02,150
She has been working with the Board President to prepare Board of Education meeting agendas

1692
02:33:02,150 --> 02:33:06,270
and working with district personnel to provide necessary information for those meetings.

1693
02:33:07,010 --> 02:33:09,950
She has been attending the Board's handbook review committee meetings.

1694
02:33:10,370 --> 02:33:15,070
She has been orchestrating a request for proposals for a strategic plan facilitator to help launch

1695
02:33:15,070 --> 02:33:16,810
the district's next strategic plan.

1696
02:33:17,510 --> 02:33:20,470
The role of superintendent is 24-7.

1697
02:33:21,110 --> 02:33:25,450
If we attempted to hire an outside interim superintendent to fill the role, the cost would

1698
02:33:25,450 --> 02:33:27,570
would be substantially greater than this stipend.

1699
02:33:28,290 --> 02:33:32,170
Stiphons are only used, I'm sorry, are often used throughout our district and

1700
02:33:32,170 --> 02:33:36,570
other districts to compensate individuals for taking on additional duties and responsibilities.

1701
02:33:37,570 --> 02:33:44,570
We are discussing a stipend to an individual who is leading our district that includes a general fund budget of over $210 million.

1702
02:33:45,370 --> 02:33:53,030
I think 26 buildings around 1,850 RCS employees, 1,580 contracted employees, and

1703
02:33:53,030 --> 02:33:58,650
approximately 15,000 students, it is only right to provide a stipend for the

1704
02:33:58,650 --> 02:34:01,970
digital responsibilities that Mrs. Fraggameni has taken on.

1705
02:34:02,770 --> 02:34:04,550
Is there other additional comments,

1706
02:34:07,920 --> 02:34:08,780
Mr. Weaver?

1707
02:34:09,340 --> 02:34:13,740
So, Mr. President, you've cited all these other instances where this has been done

1708
02:34:13,740 --> 02:34:17,380
and in general practice yet you didn't turn any of that information over to the full board.

1709
02:34:17,800 --> 02:34:21,280
That data would be nice to validate, trust but verify.

1710
02:34:21,280 --> 02:34:26,240
In the professional industry, covering for people that are off of work is a very common practice.

1711
02:34:26,660 --> 02:34:30,680
Often times it's a way to develop your resume and prove you're ready for the next position.

1712
02:34:31,220 --> 02:34:32,400
That is the work that's earned.

1713
02:34:32,920 --> 02:34:38,520
To provide a stipend in this situation, I see no business case for it whatsoever.

1714
02:34:38,760 --> 02:34:44,340
We've just increased our central office base salary by over 100 grand at our last meeting.

1715
02:34:45,020 --> 02:34:49,280
At this time, we have no end in sight for when this assignment might snap.

1716
02:34:49,280 --> 02:34:56,540
So are we asking, are you laying the precedent that it's going to be $5,000 a month until a resolution of our current situation with our superintendent?

1717
02:34:57,820 --> 02:35:02,720
This is, again, there has not been an adequate business case made for why we be doing this.

1718
02:35:02,920 --> 02:35:15,840
I would ask you to actually do that if you want to provide some historical data to support your statement that this is acceptable in this practice in this industry, which again, I think that would call it a question in the industry.

1719
02:35:16,700 --> 02:35:21,900
because, again, at this point, our central office is not underpaid in any any

1720
02:35:21,900 --> 02:35:26,480
facet and in the professional world covering for someone that is off of work is an

1721
02:35:26,480 --> 02:35:32,800
acceptable assignment and so I really have no way of justifying this is a

1722
02:35:32,800 --> 02:35:37,420
business case that we should be spending 15 more, $15,000 more on a central

1723
02:35:37,420 --> 02:35:40,020
office base salary with no end in sight.

1724
02:35:40,020 --> 02:35:50,880
Mr. Murphy, are you able to provide any insight into the use of stipends within our district as well as within the greater public school community?

1725
02:35:52,180 --> 02:36:00,620
Yeah, I mean generally a lot of union contracts have stipends or additional pay for additional duties built into them.

1726
02:36:00,620 --> 02:36:08,920
I'm thinking off the top of my head of last spring when we were short school psychologists.

1727
02:36:08,960 --> 02:36:12,120
We had school psychologists covering other buildings essentially.

1728
02:36:12,980 --> 02:36:18,540
And there's a built-in mechanism to do that for the additional time and effort they put

1729
02:36:18,540 --> 02:36:20,940
in above their expected job.

1730
02:36:21,740 --> 02:36:28,100
Other instances I can think of are principal, like an assistant principal filling in for a

1731
02:36:28,100 --> 02:36:55,500
traveling principle, typically Mr. Weaver's right for a short period of time, it's sort of expected in a lot of cases for an extended period of time, often stipends again are built into those contracts and other one I can think of as construction when our administrators have written into their contract where when their building goes under construction that there can be a stipend built into that as well, depending on the time frame and the approval.

1732
02:36:55,500 --> 02:37:00,920
So, again, that adds an additional layer of coordination, duties above and beyond what

1733
02:37:00,920 --> 02:37:02,680
they typically would do as a building principal.

1734
02:37:03,650 --> 02:37:09,420
If it's determined typically by either Mrs. Fraggamani as the deputy superintendent of teaching

1735
02:37:09,420 --> 02:37:15,020
and learning, or sometimes from a recommendation in human resources, sometimes those can go

1736
02:37:15,020 --> 02:37:17,860
out to those that aren't dictated by a union contract.

1737
02:37:17,860 --> 02:37:26,940
So it's not uncommon and again typically it is for an extended period where you're not only doing your role

1738
02:37:26,940 --> 02:37:33,520
but you're doing additional duties that weren't described in your additional or in your original child description.

1739
02:37:36,060 --> 02:37:37,160
Any other questions?

1740
02:37:37,300 --> 02:37:37,580
I don't know.

1741
02:37:37,620 --> 02:37:38,720
Quick follow-up on that one.

1742
02:37:39,080 --> 02:37:43,280
So this is the exact same situation that came up though with $100,000 that we added to it.

1743
02:37:43,280 --> 02:37:49,040
It's that idea of represented versus nonrepresented in contract required, noncontract required.

1744
02:37:50,680 --> 02:37:54,480
Again, the nonrepresented side, there's different expectations for you.

1745
02:37:54,560 --> 02:37:59,120
You don't have a contract, and it does seem to be that we continue to try and

1746
02:37:59,120 --> 02:38:03,160
apply contract philosophies to noncontract employees.

1747
02:38:03,940 --> 02:38:12,360
Does it get a general business practice, and again, one of the concerns I have with where we need to establish the business side of our house and our education side of our house and that clear separation.

1748
02:38:12,360 --> 02:38:16,980
The nonrepresented side does not have that stipend built into their contract.

1749
02:38:17,280 --> 02:38:18,900
100% agree with what you said.

1750
02:38:19,000 --> 02:38:22,640
If it says, hey, in my contract, I get a stipend, then I get a stipend.

1751
02:38:22,820 --> 02:38:24,740
For doing X, Y, or Z job assignment.

1752
02:38:24,980 --> 02:38:30,580
But if again, as a nonrepresented employee, if my boss goes out and

1753
02:38:30,580 --> 02:38:34,740
I have to do her job for an experience of time, that's expected as part of my salary.

1754
02:38:35,760 --> 02:38:38,320
So again, that's why I will not be supporting this.

1755
02:38:38,460 --> 02:38:40,660
I cannot see a business case that justifies this.

1756
02:38:40,660 --> 02:38:43,600
Ms. Anis?

1757
02:38:43,980 --> 02:39:01,920
Well, I think it's interesting that my board kindly brings up a business model when I think in some circumstances in private business, if an individual was asked to take on an additional role, they may not get a stipend per se, but they may get a bonus.

1758
02:39:02,680 --> 02:39:10,280
So to make that comparison and say it's not ever done, I don't agree with that opinion.

1759
02:39:10,280 --> 02:39:15,100
Again, this stipend is to cover this additional role.

1760
02:39:15,300 --> 02:39:20,740
It's not out of ordinary in private industry if someone is taking on additional responsibilities.

1761
02:39:21,780 --> 02:39:27,060
They could receive a bonus at the end of the year, or they cannot actually advocate for

1762
02:39:27,060 --> 02:39:30,400
themselves to receive more of a salary to take on that role.

1763
02:39:30,760 --> 02:39:32,100
That's part of business.

1764
02:39:33,920 --> 02:39:40,140
And I'm especially because she is filling in such a critical leadership role.

1765
02:39:40,140 --> 02:39:42,040
All right now is an interim superintendent.

1766
02:39:42,800 --> 02:39:49,540
I am in support of this stipend as outlined very clearly by you, President Butel, and I appreciate that.

1767
02:39:49,740 --> 02:39:50,020
Thank you.

1768
02:39:52,810 --> 02:39:53,430
Dr. Osbach.

1769
02:39:56,180 --> 02:40:08,660
I have 10 years experience in the IT world, and it's true that when I was a salary employee, if someone went out of maternity leave or something like that, the co-workers would pull up those job responsibilities.

1770
02:40:09,300 --> 02:40:12,560
We also could negotiate bonuses if we were doing that.

1771
02:40:12,560 --> 02:40:18,420
That this is not that world and you know the role of a superintendent is a critical position

1772
02:40:18,420 --> 02:40:22,940
and there's not like we have two of them and we're just asking one superintendent to cover it.

1773
02:40:23,240 --> 02:40:28,700
She's covering a full role of leadership plus the additional role that she was already doing.

1774
02:40:29,760 --> 02:40:35,820
Although there is a concern about comparing them to represented versus non-represented people

1775
02:40:35,820 --> 02:40:46,240
If you look at the CBA for our REA group, and I mean this with all due respect, I'm not questioning the stipends for these people, but we give the band director $8,000.

1776
02:40:46,840 --> 02:40:48,660
That's his stipend or their stipend.

1777
02:40:49,920 --> 02:40:54,660
So I think it's she's been doing this work for a period of time now.

1778
02:40:55,560 --> 02:41:03,760
I think that this doesn't in my mind set a precedent because the work during the end of the school is different than the work during summer.

1779
02:41:03,760 --> 02:41:08,320
A comment was made that she was at these meetings anyways.

1780
02:41:08,880 --> 02:41:18,180
Well, this example of being at graduation and a speaker is an entirely different role than my role at graduation where I was just standing there in shaking hands.

1781
02:41:18,340 --> 02:41:20,620
That was an entirely different level of responsibility.

1782
02:41:21,560 --> 02:41:25,900
And that's what we've asked her to do is take on a different level of responsibility.

1783
02:41:26,540 --> 02:41:33,540
So based on the work that she's done in the last few months, I would support this stipend because this is a critical position

1784
02:41:34,500 --> 02:41:48,880
that we really need to address with the leadership in our district and I know we're moving forward in doing this, but I mean we're asking her to do two jobs and it's a lot, so I appreciate it and based on just looking at the last few months, I'll be supporting this.

1785
02:41:51,800 --> 02:41:53,240
Mrs. McCuey?

1786
02:41:56,320 --> 02:42:01,680
These aren't two roles. There's not president for this. Part of the job of the Deputy

1787
02:42:01,680 --> 02:42:07,520
Superintendent is to act in the place of the Superintendent when needed. bonuses and stipends are

1788
02:42:07,520 --> 02:42:11,420
paid for going above and beyond performance goals, not just fulfilling what's already in the job

1789
02:42:11,420 --> 02:42:16,880
description. And that's true in the case of this Deputy Superintendent. Most of the items that were

1790
02:42:16,880 --> 02:42:22,720
on your list are also listed under the regular duties of the Deputy Superintendent anyway. And she

1791
02:42:22,720 --> 02:42:25,960
She already makes as much money as many superintendents in Michigan.

1792
02:42:26,900 --> 02:42:30,800
Not to mention, she's classed the district hundreds of thousands of dollars in a federal lawsuit and

1793
02:42:30,800 --> 02:42:35,420
damage her reputation after calling a period of employer to plan about them, which is a fireball offense in many companies.

1794
02:42:35,980 --> 02:42:41,180
I will not approve reallocating any more money to top administrators that ought to be going.

1795
02:42:41,300 --> 02:42:43,640
We're able to directly approve education.

1796
02:42:44,120 --> 02:42:50,340
Excuse me, Mr. Curry, you do need to be careful not to publicly evaluate a district employee at a public meeting.

1797
02:42:50,340 --> 02:42:54,880
I'm speaking port documents, nothing I'm saying is new to anybody.

1798
02:42:56,060 --> 02:43:01,300
I will not approve reallocating any more money to top administrators that ought to be going

1799
02:43:01,900 --> 02:43:04,520
where it can directly improve education for our kids.

1800
02:43:05,660 --> 02:43:06,240
Dr. Elsbach.

1801
02:43:07,860 --> 02:43:13,160
So the allegation has been put out there that we are top heavy and these people are overpaid.

1802
02:43:15,660 --> 02:43:21,800
And out of curiosity, I decided to do some digging, so I went down a data rabbit hole.

1803
02:43:21,960 --> 02:43:29,100
And if you look at the My School data, there are 11 school districts in the state of Michigan

1804
02:43:29,100 --> 02:43:33,820
that have 10,000 to 20,000 students, which is where we're right in the middle of.

1805
02:43:34,340 --> 02:43:39,360
So then if you go out to their websites, there's a budgeting transparency button on every single

1806
02:43:39,360 --> 02:43:45,220
website. This is state law on all publicly available data. That talks about everyone that

1807
02:43:45,220 --> 02:43:50,340
makes over $100,000 in that district. We have to put every district across the state

1808
02:43:50,340 --> 02:43:56,340
according to state law has to put that information on their website. So if we look at the average

1809
02:43:56,920 --> 02:44:02,560
superintendents, assistant superintendents salary across those now to be clear there are 11

1810
02:44:02,560 --> 02:44:06,760
districts and one of the districts their data was in a format that I really couldn't manipulate.

1811
02:44:06,760 --> 02:44:08,840
I really couldn't look at as easily.

1812
02:44:09,820 --> 02:44:14,060
The average wage versus but intended, she's right within that average range.

1813
02:44:14,700 --> 02:44:19,920
Also if we look at the number of employees that are, I would consider central office.

1814
02:44:20,780 --> 02:44:27,240
We are within the average range of central employees, central office versus school-based people.

1815
02:44:27,420 --> 02:44:32,720
Again, publicly available data and this is only the data set of school districts that are like our size.

1816
02:44:32,720 --> 02:44:37,820
and also people making over 100,000, which even principals make 100,000 in many districts.

1817
02:44:38,420 --> 02:44:40,920
If you look at the state, even teachers make 100,000.

1818
02:44:41,540 --> 02:44:45,000
So this is an example of, you know, this kind of as addresses, because I was curious.

1819
02:44:45,200 --> 02:44:48,460
You know, I like to look at the data, and again, all publicly available data.

1820
02:44:49,560 --> 02:44:57,160
I looked at our percentages of central office versus school, office, we're not overly,

1821
02:44:57,620 --> 02:44:59,500
we're not over off the average on that one.

1822
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:13,900
We are not top-heavy in the number of central office employees, and the salary is within the average range. She's not the highest paid in wages. She's not the lowest paid in wages. And this is a additional duty that she's performed.

1823
02:45:16,560 --> 02:45:19,820
This is Mrs. Bull. Madam President, I would call the question on this.

1824
02:45:23,360 --> 02:45:29,700
Is there support for calling the previous motion to call the previous question?

1825
02:45:29,700 --> 02:45:32,340
I'm so much support by Mrs. Annis.

1826
02:45:32,860 --> 02:45:35,380
All right, is there any public comment at this point?

1827
02:45:36,560 --> 02:45:38,920
Oh, I'm sorry, first we have to vote to call the question.

1828
02:45:39,340 --> 02:45:42,000
All those in favor of calling the previous question,

1829
02:45:42,020 --> 02:45:43,060
please say aye.

1830
02:45:43,500 --> 02:45:43,760
Aye.

1831
02:45:44,600 --> 02:45:45,180
Opposed?

1832
02:45:45,740 --> 02:45:47,440
That's a six-one vote.

1833
02:45:48,340 --> 02:45:49,340
All right, public comment.

1834
02:45:50,080 --> 02:45:51,720
Mrs. Manhair?

1835
02:45:55,390 --> 02:45:58,410
I'm rather astounded that Ms. Vuittal would even bring

1836
02:45:58,410 --> 02:46:00,590
such a ridiculous suggestion to this board

1837
02:46:00,590 --> 02:46:07,450
for their consideration. This stipend for Ms. Fragmani is not only un warranted, it is insulting

1838
02:46:07,450 --> 02:46:14,030
to even propose. Our district spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to cover her actions

1839
02:46:14,030 --> 02:46:22,790
in the DIN Bruno case. Has she been fired? No. Has she been sanctioned? No. Nothing.

1840
02:46:24,070 --> 02:46:30,130
Suggesting someone so clearly unqualified through her poor critical thinking skills for this job

1841
02:46:30,130 --> 02:46:39,130
Not to not only be our act in superintendent, but certainly not given a bonus along the way.

1842
02:46:40,030 --> 02:46:48,430
Thank you for considering this very important fact, public record fact in your discussions tonight.

1843
02:46:49,250 --> 02:46:56,310
This not deserve this insult to the injury already incurred through her previous actions.

1844
02:46:56,310 --> 02:47:01,530
Perhaps these extra duties can be considered penance for how she already cost us.

1845
02:47:02,150 --> 02:47:12,550
I'd like to remind all speakers to express themselves in civil manner with due respect for the dignity and privacy of others who may be affected by your comments.

1846
02:47:12,890 --> 02:47:23,590
While does not our intent to stifle public comment, speakers should be aware that if your statements violate the rates of others under the law of defamation or invasion of privacy, you may be held legally responsible.

1847
02:47:23,590 --> 02:47:30,130
If you're unsure of the legal ramifications of what you're about to say, we urge you to consult first with your legal advisor.

1848
02:47:30,970 --> 02:47:32,010
Mrs. Vandeil.

1849
02:47:32,030 --> 02:47:33,410
Point of order, Madam President.

1850
02:47:34,570 --> 02:47:38,750
That comment was unwarranted, that is stifling, trying to stifle speech.

1851
02:47:39,030 --> 02:47:42,210
Nothing that was said by Mrs. Mannhier was out of order.

1852
02:47:42,750 --> 02:47:47,230
Mrs. Mannhier finished her speaking, she had finished before I spoke.

1853
02:47:47,230 --> 02:47:53,570
but I'm just reminding everyone to be sure that they are respecting the

1854
02:47:53,570 --> 02:47:57,630
dignity of everyone and not making any statements that might violate someone's

1855
02:47:57,630 --> 02:48:02,770
rights. I'm not directed at a citizen fund that wasn't directed at her. That

1856
02:48:02,770 --> 02:48:08,670
was just a general comment. It was directed to public comment. I'm not sure where

1857
02:48:08,670 --> 02:48:09,510
did you get that statement.

1858
02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:16,960
You know quite honestly I'm not sure. I just

1859
02:48:16,960 --> 02:48:25,540
Google it. You just gave a legal statement. Where did it come from? I honestly don't know. I had pulled this. I've had it for weeks.

1860
02:48:26,900 --> 02:48:27,780
Mrs. Vandale.

1861
02:48:31,530 --> 02:48:37,450
I find it ironic that you said that before I got up here to speak, but I digress.

1862
02:48:42,110 --> 02:48:45,990
Mrs. Fragamenti, you were the first principal.

1863
02:48:46,070 --> 02:48:48,510
You need to address the full board. I'm sorry if I...

1864
02:48:48,510 --> 02:48:51,910
Mrs. Fragmenti was the first principal

1865
02:48:51,910 --> 02:48:56,350
that my children had when they came to this district.

1866
02:48:58,670 --> 02:49:06,810
And I wasn't pressed until December of 2011

1867
02:49:08,330 --> 02:49:12,510
when my husband had to confront her

1868
02:49:12,510 --> 02:49:16,810
about having my children outside in weather,

1869
02:49:16,810 --> 02:49:21,110
other that was completely inappropriate and it had windshield with it.

1870
02:49:24,810 --> 02:49:34,490
So you talk about safety of kids and at that point in time, safety really wasn't considered.

1871
02:49:35,370 --> 02:49:42,950
So I kept an eye on things and I've slowly come to the realization that there's a lot

1872
02:49:42,950 --> 02:49:47,630
of talk about safety of kids, but it's just talk.

1873
02:49:47,630 --> 02:50:02,330
So, um, $15,000 for three months of work that was already going to happen anyways, because

1874
02:50:02,330 --> 02:50:05,310
all these meetings that were going to be attended and everything.

1875
02:50:05,930 --> 02:50:15,390
And I think to myself, hmm, where could, where would I put $15,000?

1876
02:50:16,310 --> 02:50:23,510
If I had, if I was working, and you know where I would put it, I would give it across

1877
02:50:23,510 --> 02:50:26,530
the board raise to all those parents.

1878
02:50:27,550 --> 02:50:28,590
They deserve it.

1879
02:50:29,530 --> 02:50:31,210
They deserve it a lot more.

1880
02:50:32,310 --> 02:50:33,250
They're in the weeds.

1881
02:50:33,610 --> 02:50:34,450
They're with the kids.

1882
02:50:36,460 --> 02:50:43,260
Every single day, the parents deserve and across the board raise with that $15,000.

1883
02:50:47,520 --> 02:51:00,450
So, don't tell me that my kid's money is going to go on her Gucci purse.

1884
02:51:01,030 --> 02:51:01,510
Thank you.

1885
02:51:10,920 --> 02:51:15,160
Michelle Greenwald, parent, I'm appalled and

1886
02:51:15,160 --> 02:51:21,160
disgusted that this board would propose let alone consider authorizing a stipend for

1887
02:51:21,160 --> 02:51:24,380
a woman who is the epitome of a bully within our district.

1888
02:51:25,580 --> 02:51:27,880
Let's remember that W. Fragmenti,

1889
02:51:28,140 --> 02:51:32,780
contacted parents' employer in 2021 in order to bully Marty Blake

1890
02:51:32,780 --> 02:51:36,600
into terminating one of his employees, Elena Diverno.

1891
02:51:38,360 --> 02:51:42,320
Fragmenti, obviously threatened the livelihood of Blake's own daughter,

1892
02:51:42,680 --> 02:51:46,200
who also, who is also a teacher within the district.

1893
02:51:47,100 --> 02:51:49,120
Fragmenti caused how much money to be

1894
02:51:49,120 --> 02:51:55,580
be diverted from our own children's education to be used towards lawyers fees, depositions,

1895
02:51:55,960 --> 02:51:57,460
and eventually a settlement.

1896
02:51:58,700 --> 02:52:06,240
A settlement, the community only knows that the settlement amount, which is near $200,000.

1897
02:52:06,680 --> 02:52:14,340
Yet we don't know how much additional funds were used to pay for attorneys, deposition,

1898
02:52:14,340 --> 02:52:18,480
questions, everything else that involves in a lawsuit.

1899
02:52:19,340 --> 02:52:27,040
Has she been required to provide RCS with compensation for all the monies used because

1900
02:52:27,040 --> 02:52:29,060
of her blatantly malicious actions?

1901
02:52:30,400 --> 02:52:35,460
Has Fragmenti been held accountable for any of her actions that led to the deferral lawsuit?

1902
02:52:36,360 --> 02:52:42,500
Until the time comes when Fragmenti has reimbursed the district for her clear abuse of power and

1903
02:52:42,500 --> 02:52:46,200
In all of the legal fees associated with defending or bullying tactics,

1904
02:52:46,740 --> 02:52:53,960
let's hold off on authorizing any stipend for her or anyone else intimately involved with the Deburnal lawsuit.

1905
02:52:55,460 --> 02:52:55,920
Thank you.

1906
02:52:59,860 --> 02:53:06,320
All right, there is a motion on the table that the board approved $5,000 monthly stipend for Mrs.

1907
02:53:06,500 --> 02:53:11,620
Fragman for the months of April, May and June for the additional duties and responsibilities that have been assigned.

1908
02:53:12,520 --> 02:53:14,660
All of those in favor, please say aye.

1909
02:53:14,660 --> 02:53:15,440
Aye. Aye.

1910
02:53:15,440 --> 02:53:15,640
Aye.

1911
02:53:16,340 --> 02:53:17,020
Opposed?

1912
02:53:17,440 --> 02:53:18,120
No.

1913
02:53:18,360 --> 02:53:20,360
That's a five to vote.

1914
02:53:21,140 --> 02:53:21,440
All right.

1915
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We are now moving on to 7.14, which was the added item, giving a second to, can you pass

1916
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those down?

1917
02:53:37,330 --> 02:53:46,250
So the current language is, I move that we, the board, direct, acting superintendent, Debbie

1918
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be fragmented to ensure that professional development which will be scheduled to take place at the

1919
02:53:51,490 --> 02:53:56,790
start of the next school year for all K-5 teachers will include updated instruction about

1920
02:53:56,790 --> 02:54:02,290
best practices in literacy informed by recent research and laws,

1921
02:54:06,520 --> 02:54:07,940
all problematic lessons

1922
02:54:07,940 --> 02:54:18,960
and old queueing strategies that linger in our current Lucy Cockins units of reading and

1923
02:54:18,960 --> 02:54:21,520
in writing curriculum, which we learned about

1924
02:54:21,520 --> 02:54:24,420
at the literacy work session on May 22nd

1925
02:54:24,420 --> 02:54:26,060
will be addressed and eliminated.

1926
02:54:28,430 --> 02:54:33,530
Okay, so Mrs. LaCouille is making that motion

1927
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is their support.

1928
02:54:36,150 --> 02:54:37,150
Mr. Weaver,

1929
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discussion, Mrs. LaCouille.

1930
02:54:43,620 --> 02:54:45,700
First of all, thank you to the board

1931
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for agreeing to add this item to our agenda today.

1932
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It's really good.

1933
02:54:50,320 --> 02:54:55,260
we've got to talk about more educational items and literacy is too important to ignore.

1934
02:54:55,920 --> 02:55:00,360
We have an urgent need to correct some of the harm caused by our current literacy curriculum

1935
02:55:00,360 --> 02:55:06,160
which we learned about in the literacy work session on May 22nd. Why should we approve this motion

1936
02:55:06,160 --> 02:55:12,900
today? Because it's a small ask and right now we have time to prepare for what kind of professional

1937
02:55:12,900 --> 02:55:19,140
development we want to see at the start of a new school year. I'm not asking that we purchase all

1938
02:55:19,140 --> 02:55:25,800
new curriculum. I'm not asking that a burden be placed upon our teachers. I'm asking that our WD

1939
02:55:25,800 --> 02:55:30,620
superintendent for teaching and learning would oversee this effort, which would likely be carried out

1940
02:55:30,620 --> 02:55:36,100
by the curriculum experts that we have hired. We will be scheduling teacher professional development

1941
02:55:36,100 --> 02:55:41,300
for the start of the new school year anyway, so I'm requesting given the importance and urgency

1942
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of this matter as it relates to educating kids that literacy be a part of this professional development

1943
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and that we correct some of the errors in our curriculum to make sure everyone is on

1944
02:55:52,420 --> 02:55:52,960
the same page.

1945
02:55:53,920 --> 02:56:00,280
We now understand that guessing strategies contradict explicit systematic phonics instruction

1946
02:56:00,280 --> 02:56:04,960
and confuse the students, undermining progress and going against what we now understand

1947
02:56:04,960 --> 02:56:05,580
from research.

1948
02:56:06,200 --> 02:56:09,980
We should ensure that our literacy curriculum aligns with what our teachers are learning

1949
02:56:09,980 --> 02:56:14,820
in letters training and we need to make sure that we're doing no harm and are giving every

1950
02:56:14,820 --> 02:56:19,920
student their best chance to learn how to read correctly, as this will affect learning in

1951
02:56:19,920 --> 02:56:26,740
all subject areas. So as a first step, we need to make sure that the bad strategies are

1952
02:56:26,740 --> 02:56:29,780
removed from this curriculum so that we can focus on the good ones.

1953
02:56:34,600 --> 02:56:37,220
All right, anyone else was to Mrs. Annas.

1954
02:56:38,720 --> 02:56:43,440
So I'm glad I get to ask the questions I wanted to ask and I'm not sure Mrs. Fraga many

1955
02:56:43,440 --> 02:56:52,020
if you're the galvanist should be asking, or if it should be Cory Heish, when do K-5 educators have professional development?

1956
02:56:53,320 --> 02:57:01,940
I have asked Mr. Heish to join me in this conversation working with elementary as well and planning for a professional development.

1957
02:57:02,680 --> 02:57:13,380
But I would like, and Cory, we can have further conversations, I don't want to put them on the spot, but I'd like for you to speak to the conversation since the work session.

1958
02:57:13,380 --> 02:57:22,840
and our summer work and how we're anticipating and planning to reduce the harm that is the concern for our students and literacy.

1959
02:57:23,180 --> 02:57:30,060
I also, before you begin, no query out, so I had one follow up and does this professional development also include literacy?

1960
02:57:30,380 --> 02:57:31,120
Those are my two questions.

1961
02:57:31,880 --> 02:57:40,240
So first I'll start with the simple one, yes, teachers that first week back would be scheduled as a district professional development day.

1962
02:57:40,240 --> 02:57:47,840
K2 is focused on literacy all day, and it's to attend to foundational literacy skills.

1963
02:57:48,200 --> 02:57:56,960
So to understand how foundational literacy is being more embedded within the day-to-day curriculum of.

1964
02:57:57,700 --> 02:58:02,420
So that's scheduled, and there will be follow-up in October to that.

1965
02:58:02,640 --> 02:58:09,560
So the general professional development, and we were fortunate through negotiations that are calendar, better supports, where we're at.

1966
02:58:09,560 --> 02:58:23,160
So, this was the first year that we had five days throughout the course of the school year to work with staff, get feedback on what their needs are and have staff help create conference sessions at the elementary level.

1967
02:58:23,340 --> 02:58:33,940
So, obviously, bigger bridges being a new resource and math was a heavy, heavy lift in the beginning part of the year and there was always components of that, but what we've heard from staff is they enjoy the conference style.

1968
02:58:33,940 --> 02:58:52,580
They enjoy being able to see what is happening in their classrooms, seeing how their students are performing, seeing what gaps they may have based on the kids in front of them and then working directly side-by-side with the curriculum department and building administrators to create sessions for them to attend, so literacy is a big component of that.

1969
02:58:52,580 --> 02:59:00,500
But one of the pieces that has been kind of an ongoing project that will be implemented

1970
02:59:00,500 --> 02:59:08,300
this year is making sure our assessment alignment in the K1 band especially affords us the

1971
02:59:08,300 --> 02:59:12,860
opportunity to make sure that we're screening for a vast majority of characteristics of dyslexia.

1972
02:59:13,340 --> 02:59:18,600
So not only will we have some new assessments available to our staff that have been piloted

1973
02:59:18,600 --> 02:59:21,820
over the last year and a half available

1974
02:59:21,820 --> 02:59:23,780
for in all of our classrooms next year,

1975
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but we'll also have professional development

1976
02:59:25,240 --> 02:59:26,660
that follows up on that okay.

1977
02:59:27,120 --> 02:59:28,560
So I have this information now what?

1978
02:59:28,780 --> 02:59:30,600
How do I attend to their needs

1979
02:59:30,600 --> 02:59:31,680
within a classroom setting?

1980
02:59:33,200 --> 02:59:34,560
Excuse me, a follow-up question.

1981
02:59:35,460 --> 02:59:38,000
So how would this motion impact

1982
02:59:38,000 --> 02:59:40,040
what happens in the fall for our teachers?

1983
02:59:40,440 --> 02:59:41,360
Can you speak to that?

1984
02:59:44,520 --> 02:59:47,260
So I don't want to speak for you, Trustee Lucuille.

1985
02:59:47,540 --> 02:59:49,420
I'm trying to go back to our conversation

1986
02:59:49,420 --> 02:59:51,580
at the work session and the example that was brought up.

1987
02:59:51,840 --> 02:59:55,180
The example that kept getting brought up of a Facebook picture,

1988
02:59:55,280 --> 02:59:56,960
I believe it was, that had...

1989
03:00:00,000 --> 03:00:29,940
Like, it's more of a cutesy term, like, see me the frog or a strategy with that that's been mentioned before, and then also the book bag that went home with the example of, you know, here's what to do, and it was the sounded out thing. You know, that's not necessarily go ahead. I was talking about at the work session, the queuing strategies where students were taught, oh, you can look at the picture to guess what the word is, look at the first letter to guess what the word is, or look at the context of the sentence to guess what words are.

1990
03:00:29,940 --> 03:00:37,160
And what we've been learning is that guessing the words in that manner actually undermines some of the.

1991
03:00:37,320 --> 03:00:42,900
Yeah, I think what you're speaking to is some examples that were shared, if I'm wrong, I apologize.

1992
03:00:42,960 --> 03:00:50,280
But they've been shared throughout the conversation that's been ongoing in a much larger scale than just the May 22nd work session.

1993
03:00:50,640 --> 03:00:54,160
Some of those examples are not curricular resources that come from the district.

1994
03:00:54,460 --> 03:00:56,640
They can be found on a teacher pay teacher site.

1995
03:00:56,640 --> 03:01:05,080
So conversations we're having as well with our building administrators is to make sure that we're putting the right things in front of our kids.

1996
03:01:05,420 --> 03:01:12,360
Part of the problem though was in Lucy Kocken's units of study reading curriculum, those strategies are enforced.

1997
03:01:12,600 --> 03:01:16,820
Even though she now has a phonics component, that's not what I'm talking about.

1998
03:01:16,920 --> 03:01:20,640
I'm not talking about her phonics component, I'm talking about the units of reading curriculum.

1999
03:01:20,920 --> 03:01:23,960
And with the updates to that, that'll be pulled back from.

2000
03:01:23,960 --> 03:01:36,280
So as you know, and as we've shared, we've been piloting the revised units that'll be in all of our classrooms in K2, and so those strategies will be more enhanced and more robust as opposed to just sound it out.

2001
03:01:37,260 --> 03:01:48,940
Okay, because when did you by tell at the work session was talking about how those lessons are indeed in the books, and it's been difficult to, you know, to get to all of them to remove them or whatever.

2002
03:01:49,240 --> 03:01:52,260
Yeah, because as we continue to say there's not a one size fits all approach.

2003
03:01:52,260 --> 03:01:59,420
So, we have kids that come to us already decoding, already word-calling, already going.

2004
03:01:59,960 --> 03:02:07,280
So, they don't necessarily need the same thing as a student who does not have foundational skills that needs good, hard, explicit teaching with decoding.

2005
03:02:07,940 --> 03:02:21,180
Okay, but I don't think that's actually addressing the question I'm talking about because what I'm talking about are these queuing, guessing strategies and how those strategies are not actually useful to use when you're encountering new words.

2006
03:02:22,540 --> 03:02:27,880
because it undermines your effort to learn what the new word is, to decode the word all the way through.

2007
03:02:28,740 --> 03:02:32,020
So I guess maybe I'm not understanding what your motion is asking.

2008
03:02:33,520 --> 03:02:34,960
Perhaps that, okay, go ahead.

2009
03:02:35,880 --> 03:02:39,000
Let me try it, because I think this is where we're going to caught up a little bit.

2010
03:02:39,120 --> 03:02:50,160
So what I'm hearing from Trustee LaCouille is the part about the professional development is to make sure that all the teachers have a clear understanding of what the expectation is for the strategy that we're doing.

2011
03:02:50,160 --> 03:02:55,560
the strategy that we are using because it did seem at the work session that we were hearing from the

2012
03:02:55,560 --> 03:03:00,640
learning consultants. It's a matter of just getting to all of them that, yeah, some of that stuff might still be in the classroom,

2013
03:03:00,760 --> 03:03:06,180
but almost we don't really want it there, but it might still be there. So when I hear the professional development part of that's what I'm hearing is,

2014
03:03:06,200 --> 03:03:11,880
hey, let's just make sure that we're giving all the information to all of you just so you know clearly what the expectation is.

2015
03:03:13,100 --> 03:03:19,060
And then the second part is that going through and making sure that we've removed it all because one of the things that came out of

2016
03:03:19,060 --> 03:03:22,240
that told the story podcast, my wife is a language art teacher, so this is something

2017
03:03:22,240 --> 03:03:25,240
that hit home. We talked about it a lot. She went out and bought different books for

2018
03:03:25,240 --> 03:03:30,920
our seven-year-old to teach him to read. Was the idea that the teachers don't know

2019
03:03:31,440 --> 03:03:35,440
sometimes that it's wrong, and so that they're doing what they think is right, and a lot

2020
03:03:35,440 --> 03:03:40,000
of the teachers who have testimonies on that podcast of once they learned, they were kind

2021
03:03:40,000 --> 03:03:45,280
of mortified, that they thought they were doing something well. So, as I hear this motion,

2022
03:03:45,280 --> 03:04:09,700
It's just simply saying that, yes, we as aboard are directing the acting superintendent to make sure that we give a clear message to all teachers that this is the philosophy we're using, we're not using the queueing system, and that basically it needs to come out of your classrooms, then we need to have some mechanism, and this is where the implementation of this comes from our acting superintendent is how do we verify that that's been done?

2023
03:04:09,700 --> 03:04:13,880
I mean, again, the world light come from, we call it a layered audit, trust but verify.

2024
03:04:14,120 --> 03:04:16,780
So, hey, we've sat everyone down, and no one's in trouble.

2025
03:04:16,900 --> 03:04:20,500
We just want to make sure everyone's got the same message that this is the strategy we're using.

2026
03:04:20,600 --> 03:04:23,720
We're not using the queueing system, get it out of your classrooms,

2027
03:04:23,720 --> 03:04:26,120
and then we have a way to verify that it is out of the classrooms.

2028
03:04:26,620 --> 03:04:31,000
And what I would say to that, and I don't think you're far off from what I'm trying to communicate,

2029
03:04:32,220 --> 03:04:38,080
is we still need to guard ourselves, and I've been very consistent in this message in making sure

2030
03:04:38,080 --> 03:04:41,040
that we're not trying to find a one-size-fits-all approach.

2031
03:04:41,860 --> 03:04:48,100
So when a master's mind of a question that says completely get rid of it, what if that works for that child?

2032
03:04:49,400 --> 03:04:55,240
Right, and now to your point, the one-size-fits-all approach can't just stick with that queuing system.

2033
03:04:55,540 --> 03:05:03,040
There needs to be other resources, professional learning, and professional understanding of what do I do for a student in my classroom,

2034
03:05:03,680 --> 03:05:06,800
particularly when we're talking about decoding and decodable tax,

2035
03:05:07,500 --> 03:05:08,440
how do I teach that?

2036
03:05:09,220 --> 03:05:13,020
Do I have the right resources and how do I assess how my students are doing that?

2037
03:05:13,160 --> 03:05:15,920
And that is all a part of our professional learning plan for next year.

2038
03:05:16,140 --> 03:05:22,040
So I'm sorry, I do think we're very close, but I think the part where you lose me is when you just divert it back to the one-size-fits-all.

2039
03:05:22,120 --> 03:05:28,640
Because I don't think anything I said is one-size-fits-all, but then you'll lose to that someone could basically default to go in and

2040
03:05:28,640 --> 03:05:33,940
We would almost want them to have the queuing system in their back pocket when what I'm hearing is

2041
03:05:34,760 --> 03:05:39,740
it's pretty clear the queuing system does not teach kids to read their science behind that and

2042
03:05:39,740 --> 03:05:42,400
that we are moving, we are not teaching the kids that strategy.

2043
03:05:42,600 --> 03:05:47,140
So if that is, and again, within how do you still teach the phonics lessons,

2044
03:05:47,160 --> 03:05:53,500
it sounds like there's still some flexibility for teachers, to empower them to work with their students.

2045
03:05:53,500 --> 03:05:58,580
It's not a one-size-fits-all, but I think where we're getting gray is this idea is our

2046
03:05:58,580 --> 03:06:04,240
Are we as a district saying the Q&A system can still be used in the classroom, or are we saying it can't be used in the classroom?

2047
03:06:04,400 --> 03:06:06,800
And maybe that's, again, just a simple question that we're trying to address.

2048
03:06:07,380 --> 03:06:14,920
And what I would say, again, in this moment in time, without collaborating with folks throughout the district and not having the data in front of us,

2049
03:06:15,700 --> 03:06:23,420
we can't put ourselves in a position when we're limiting ourselves to what a student may need and what may work for a student.

2050
03:06:23,660 --> 03:06:28,020
But I will also say with that, there have been pieces missing which we've acknowledged.

2051
03:06:28,020 --> 03:06:33,200
and so what we're attending to are the known missing pieces in terms of

2052
03:06:33,200 --> 03:06:38,480
the decodable work, the explicit teaching with phonics and foundational skills in K-1,

2053
03:06:38,560 --> 03:06:45,340
and a guess to your point, Mr. Weaver, of not solely relying on one way to go about it.

2054
03:06:46,380 --> 03:06:51,660
All right, we're going to go with Dr. Allspock and then Mrs. Gupta and then Mrs. Annas.

2055
03:06:58,340 --> 03:07:00,640
If I was given, can you guys hear me?

2056
03:07:00,640 --> 03:07:07,200
Okay. As an administrator, I know that if I was given a resolution from the board, after

2057
03:07:07,200 --> 03:07:12,240
school was already, that said at the start of the next school year, I literally have,

2058
03:07:13,000 --> 03:07:18,480
and it might be different in RCS. I have one day, I have about a half a day with PD with

2059
03:07:18,480 --> 03:07:24,540
my staff before they come back. And I have lots of operational issues. So this would really,

2060
03:07:25,120 --> 03:07:30,620
this would really put me in a bind. So, one of my concerns, so overall, I

2061
03:07:30,620 --> 03:07:34,780
I think this is a good and I'm glad we got it on the agenda this time because, you know,

2062
03:07:34,900 --> 03:07:38,260
you and I didn't have time to talk about your resolution last time.

2063
03:07:38,900 --> 03:07:45,440
So if we could, so, and the other piece I have is, you know, we are making a judgment.

2064
03:07:45,680 --> 03:07:47,260
I am not a curriculum expert.

2065
03:07:47,620 --> 03:07:49,940
I don't, I have issues with the word problematic.

2066
03:07:50,920 --> 03:07:57,260
And I think when we get to the word eliminate, then we are then now becoming curriculum police

2067
03:07:57,260 --> 03:08:04,760
and tying our hands for all saying that this is an option that our teachers can't even use.

2068
03:08:05,660 --> 03:08:09,240
So I would move that, we amend this resolution.

2069
03:08:10,180 --> 03:08:18,080
I would like to take out the words at the start of and then just put in scheduled to take

2070
03:08:18,080 --> 03:08:20,160
place in the next school year.

2071
03:08:21,120 --> 03:08:26,200
So I understand what you're saying, but if you've ever actually planned a PD and actually

2072
03:08:26,200 --> 03:08:33,160
open to school. This is a burden. And then I would just like to remove the end the words

2073
03:08:33,160 --> 03:08:39,360
of the end to say and eliminate it because I don't want to become a board that dictates

2074
03:08:39,360 --> 03:08:44,800
to teachers that they can't use some options. I think it's still strongly states our concerns

2075
03:08:44,800 --> 03:08:51,180
which I share with you but I think this gives the administrators and the teachers some trust.

2076
03:08:51,180 --> 03:09:04,760
So that would be my men, men would be two things to remove the words at the start of the next school year and instead say in the next school year, and then we would just remove the words and eliminated.

2077
03:09:10,820 --> 03:09:16,060
I'm sorry. Can you point out I'm seeing I'm missing where eliminated is the last two words.

2078
03:09:16,700 --> 03:09:17,920
Oh, oh, okay.

2079
03:09:17,920 --> 03:09:20,440
And I do think this is important work.

2080
03:09:20,720 --> 03:09:23,640
I do think what this will do is will we pass this.

2081
03:09:23,840 --> 03:09:29,300
It will make a statement as a board, but it will not be becoming a policing agency of

2082
03:09:29,300 --> 03:09:31,260
what's going on within a classroom.

2083
03:09:31,300 --> 03:09:36,760
It will still give our professional educators some ability, but it does say where we think

2084
03:09:36,760 --> 03:09:37,580
our thinking should be.

2085
03:09:37,820 --> 03:09:41,560
And it does support them in moving more toward the science of reading.

2086
03:09:44,550 --> 03:09:44,810
All right.

2087
03:09:44,810 --> 03:09:58,050
So did you want to make a motion to amend this, that we take out at the start of the next

2088
03:09:58,050 --> 03:10:03,490
school year, and instead that line would say schedule to take place in the next school

2089
03:10:03,490 --> 03:10:03,790
year?

2090
03:10:05,030 --> 03:10:05,970
Madam President.

2091
03:10:06,670 --> 03:10:18,230
Well first hold on and eliminate and eliminate my motion to eliminate and eliminate all right to amend her motion yeah, okay, but first

2092
03:10:19,870 --> 03:10:29,050
We have an amendment made by Dr. Allspock, but then we would need support for it before we would be amending it. So is there support for?

2093
03:10:31,910 --> 03:10:33,530
Dr. Allspock's amendment

2094
03:10:35,030 --> 03:10:45,350
Okay, so then Mrs. Gupta supported that and are you okay then if Mrs. Anis makes a comment

2095
03:10:45,350 --> 03:10:46,750
about the motion?

2096
03:10:47,330 --> 03:10:47,470
Yes.

2097
03:10:48,330 --> 03:10:48,650
Okay.

2098
03:10:49,210 --> 03:10:56,530
I was also going to offer my own amendment and I appreciate you changing the language in the

2099
03:10:56,530 --> 03:11:07,150
part regarding when the scheduled PD can happen, but I would go even further and it would

2100
03:11:07,150 --> 03:11:12,270
read, I move that we direct acting superintendent Debbie Fragumeni to ensure that professional

2101
03:11:12,270 --> 03:11:18,410
development, which will be scheduled to take place in the next school year for all K-5 teachers

2102
03:11:18,410 --> 03:11:24,930
will include updated instruction and best practices and literacy informed by recent research and

2103
03:11:24,930 --> 03:11:28,190
laws for continuous improvement and strike the rest.

2104
03:11:28,990 --> 03:11:31,570
That is my amendment to your amendment.

2105
03:11:34,780 --> 03:11:43,490
Is there support for the amendment made by Mrs. Anis?

2106
03:11:44,810 --> 03:11:47,470
Support by Mrs. Bull.

2107
03:11:48,810 --> 03:11:53,670
Okay, any discussion on this at this point?

2108
03:11:54,370 --> 03:11:55,090
Mrs. Bull?

2109
03:11:56,230 --> 03:12:02,370
Yeah, I agree with a lot of what's been said here actually, but I do agree with Dr.

2110
03:12:02,550 --> 03:12:02,850
Osbach.

2111
03:12:03,070 --> 03:12:03,570
We can't.

2112
03:12:04,030 --> 03:12:09,050
I mean, who's to say, the word problematic is problematic to me as well.

2113
03:12:09,210 --> 03:12:09,910
Who's to say?

2114
03:12:10,250 --> 03:12:14,750
I mean, we did hear about continuous improvement in best practices, and we did hear about

2115
03:12:14,750 --> 03:12:21,150
these strategies, but I would rather have our curriculum experts be making this decision.

2116
03:12:21,150 --> 03:12:31,430
I think that this motion as it is with the first sentence as modified shows that we heard

2117
03:12:31,430 --> 03:12:38,030
what was presented at the work session on literacy and we are dedicated to continuing

2118
03:12:38,650 --> 03:12:44,090
to adjust based on best practices and current research.

2119
03:12:47,830 --> 03:12:48,070
Okay.

2120
03:12:48,310 --> 03:12:48,950
Mrs. LeCouille.

2121
03:12:51,690 --> 03:12:59,750
The first thing, my question still pertains, I guess, to this amendment, which is are there some kids that need the queuing system?

2122
03:13:00,270 --> 03:13:10,150
They need to be able to look at a picture to guess a word, or guess a word based on the first sound of the word, or guess a word based on the context of the word in order to learn how to read better.

2123
03:13:12,940 --> 03:13:16,920
Without having a child and their work in front of me and having not read with them,

2124
03:13:17,240 --> 03:13:22,520
what I would say is there are students that come to us with foundational skills in tact.

2125
03:13:23,760 --> 03:13:26,660
They're ready, they're ready to go, that does not mean that they don't need explicit teaching.

2126
03:13:27,500 --> 03:13:31,480
That does not mean that they don't need continued work at Phoenix and

2127
03:13:31,480 --> 03:13:38,840
Phenemic Awareness, and what I will tell you is that using context clues is okay,

2128
03:13:38,840 --> 03:13:40,980
but it can't be the be all and all.

2129
03:13:41,800 --> 03:13:43,840
We can't get into your point.

2130
03:13:44,020 --> 03:13:47,380
We can't solely rely on putting a book in front of the kid

2131
03:13:47,380 --> 03:13:50,760
without any instructor there sending them home and saying,

2132
03:13:51,480 --> 03:13:53,460
if your child's struggling reading, do this,

2133
03:13:53,560 --> 03:13:55,400
do this and do this, there does have to be more

2134
03:13:55,400 --> 03:13:56,460
and that's what we're working on.

2135
03:13:57,740 --> 03:14:00,460
But to conversation that's happened at the board table,

2136
03:14:01,140 --> 03:14:04,060
I do have difficulties when we start saying eliminating,

2137
03:14:04,500 --> 03:14:06,620
when we start saying only this,

2138
03:14:06,620 --> 03:14:09,700
this because we have a very high achieving district.

2139
03:14:10,200 --> 03:14:12,340
We do, would I like it to be higher?

2140
03:14:12,860 --> 03:14:14,160
Absolutely, everybody would.

2141
03:14:14,320 --> 03:14:16,840
But we have measures that show us that our kids are doing pretty darn well.

2142
03:14:17,740 --> 03:14:22,520
So how do we enhance and how do we make sure that kids that are maybe slipping through the cracks,

2143
03:14:23,040 --> 03:14:26,540
we have other strategies to go to and that's what this conversation is about.

2144
03:14:27,000 --> 03:14:31,740
All right, so then to complete my statement, I'm not talking about kids who already have those skills intact.

2145
03:14:32,280 --> 03:14:34,580
I am talking about the kids who are slipping through the cracks.

2146
03:14:34,580 --> 03:14:53,700
And for those students, the ones who are slipping through the cracks, the ones who are struggling with reading is there ever a time, according to any kind of research that says that guessing the word based on the picture or by the first letter of the word or by the context of the sentence is a good strategy to use.

2147
03:14:54,960 --> 03:14:59,960
What I would say is your I can't state that as fact because I don't have

2148
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:29,300
The child in front of what I can say is that having language now as opposed to look at the first letter, that's more phonemic based or more phonics based of what do the letters tell you, as opposed to the pictures tell you, is probably a more appropriate pathway to take for a student who needs work with simple decoding in those foundational skills. And that is the piece that we know as a gap that we've set as a gap that we need to improve on and that we'll have professional learning available to support.

2149
03:15:29,300 --> 03:15:33,440
And also more importantly, that's not a part of this conversation, is having the right

2150
03:15:33,440 --> 03:15:39,720
assessments in place for staff to identify if they have characteristics of dyslexia

2151
03:15:39,720 --> 03:15:43,320
that would warrant different strategies, different interventions.

2152
03:15:43,760 --> 03:15:45,380
And that will be new for this year as well.

2153
03:15:45,960 --> 03:15:46,280
Absolutely.

2154
03:15:46,600 --> 03:15:50,980
I think it sounds like you're doing a lot of positive things, and I would want to support

2155
03:15:50,980 --> 03:15:51,300
that.

2156
03:15:51,580 --> 03:15:55,300
I was actually wondering, as we were talking, there might be some kind of disconnect here.

2157
03:15:55,580 --> 03:15:58,740
Because when I say eliminate, I'm just talking about eliminating

2158
03:15:58,740 --> 03:16:03,520
the strategies that are not working, that our curriculum consultants admitted to us at

2159
03:16:03,520 --> 03:16:08,280
that work session, yeah, I know, these are old strategies we've learned better, now

2160
03:16:08,280 --> 03:16:09,060
we can do better.

2161
03:16:09,780 --> 03:16:12,520
Get rid of the stuff that they agree is not working.

2162
03:16:13,000 --> 03:16:18,920
We are, we actually, my original motion is trusting them to make those decisions and to just

2163
03:16:18,920 --> 03:16:22,360
get rid of the things that they acknowledged we're lacking in our current curriculum.

2164
03:16:22,860 --> 03:16:27,400
And, you know, I don't bring this up a whole lot, but I do have a reading and language

2165
03:16:27,400 --> 03:16:27,940
arts degree.

2166
03:16:27,940 --> 03:16:31,720
And I got my specialization in reading and to become a reading specialist.

2167
03:16:32,100 --> 03:16:34,900
And I understand a lot of this stuff, a lot of the lingo.

2168
03:16:35,680 --> 03:16:40,720
And so it can be a little frustrating that we're having some of this disconnect.

2169
03:16:41,000 --> 03:16:45,520
But I'm wondering if this motion might just be coinciding with what you're already doing,

2170
03:16:45,520 --> 03:16:46,220
which is great.

2171
03:16:46,540 --> 03:16:50,940
If you're already having professional development focused on literacy in the beginning of the year.

2172
03:16:51,520 --> 03:16:55,940
Does this really change what your plans were already?

2173
03:16:55,940 --> 03:16:58,440
I mean, or does this just kind of support what you're doing?

2174
03:16:59,500 --> 03:17:01,180
Yeah, Mrs. Fregumeni.

2175
03:17:01,560 --> 03:17:07,500
Yes, if I can interject, especially as you're looking at resolutions or amendments to literacy.

2176
03:17:08,460 --> 03:17:10,760
And Mr. Haish, you're very humble.

2177
03:17:11,040 --> 03:17:17,360
I thought you were going to share a piece that was going to help the board make the decision.

2178
03:17:17,360 --> 03:17:18,300
He's very humble.

2179
03:17:18,980 --> 03:17:24,440
He's working diligently with our literacy teams throughout the summer,

2180
03:17:24,440 --> 03:17:33,320
Even though they are off for the summer, we are spending time in our early literacy programs where we have children getting interventions this summer.

2181
03:17:33,560 --> 03:17:45,860
We're working with our MTSS teams and our anticipation is to look for where the gaps are, where we're seeing children that need different skill sets and

2182
03:17:45,860 --> 03:17:51,240
provide that in one of the conversations that we had was possibly bringing to the board.

2183
03:17:51,240 --> 03:18:05,120
Before school starts to share with the community, what is in place, what are we doing to reduce harm to students but ensure that we're not limiting what we can do for children?

2184
03:18:05,620 --> 03:18:17,340
So I think this is very important conversation as a parent with a child coming to school and being so desperate to make sure their children can read and they're not behind.

2185
03:18:17,340 --> 03:18:24,120
I propose that whatever amendment you put into place, please consider that Mr.

2186
03:18:24,280 --> 03:18:28,340
Haitian, his curriculum team, along with our commitment.

2187
03:18:28,940 --> 03:18:33,000
And I can assure every person who's watching on television would be a learning

2188
03:18:33,000 --> 03:18:38,940
consultant and an MTSS and a reading specialist because your voices and

2189
03:18:38,940 --> 03:18:44,480
your concerns are coming forward and we're relying on our experts to be studying,

2190
03:18:44,480 --> 03:18:50,380
to be training this summer, our special education teachers are going through Orton Gillingham training.

2191
03:18:50,880 --> 03:18:52,480
We're looking at the letters training.

2192
03:18:53,060 --> 03:18:57,840
One of the pieces, Corey, that I think was really exciting for our teachers to hear,

2193
03:18:58,420 --> 03:19:05,840
is that as we offer literacy, professional development, this fall, that we have different opportunities.

2194
03:19:06,260 --> 03:19:13,060
So the classroom teacher who's concerned about how they're reaching their children and

2195
03:19:13,060 --> 03:19:14,280
what are some new strategies?

2196
03:19:14,800 --> 03:19:19,500
They're going to be able to polish their profession moving forward.

2197
03:19:19,960 --> 03:19:27,740
But certainly this conversation from that work session by no means does not delineate

2198
03:19:27,740 --> 03:19:33,400
that we want to be in that continuous improvement of best practice in reading instruction.

2199
03:19:34,120 --> 03:19:38,080
And we're reading a lot of information as professionals across this district.

2200
03:19:38,380 --> 03:19:41,140
We're sending articles forward for people to read.

2201
03:19:41,140 --> 03:19:47,200
And we are invested, as we are invested, from the day I've entered this district,

2202
03:19:47,560 --> 03:19:53,680
and the partnership you with the community with authors in April, literacy is a moral imperative.

2203
03:20:02,450 --> 03:20:08,270
At this point, I want to read what our amendment currently is, is that?

2204
03:20:08,470 --> 03:20:14,050
I believe it is, I move that we direct acting superintendent, Debbie Fragumani,

2205
03:20:14,270 --> 03:20:18,810
to ensure that professional development, which will be scheduled to take place in

2206
03:20:18,810 --> 03:20:25,070
In the next school year, for all K-5 teachers will include updated instruction about best

2207
03:20:25,070 --> 03:20:31,210
practices in literacy informed by recent research and laws for continuous improvement.

2208
03:20:31,730 --> 03:20:32,290
Is that correct?

2209
03:20:33,250 --> 03:20:33,390
Okay.

2210
03:20:34,780 --> 03:20:39,490
Is there any additional discussion on that from my board colleagues?

2211
03:20:41,190 --> 03:20:43,810
I would say, yeah, I have one more comment, I guess.

2212
03:20:43,990 --> 03:20:44,170
Okay.

2213
03:20:44,310 --> 03:20:46,370
I'm going to just ask my question first.

2214
03:20:46,370 --> 03:20:57,110
So Mr. Hitch, I guess my question is, if that was approved as is, does that really change anything that's already planned?

2215
03:20:57,710 --> 03:21:12,470
Or are you already planning to have K-5 teachers and K-5 have the opportunity to receive information on bus practices in literacy?

2216
03:21:13,070 --> 03:21:16,410
My hesitation would be, and it's not a massive one.

2217
03:21:16,550 --> 03:21:25,170
My hesitation would be with the K-5 piece, when we start getting into the upper grades, some of that language may not correlate to them.

2218
03:21:25,410 --> 03:21:35,670
So, if it's a motion, if it's a resolution, and the ask is back in November or December to give an update of, there may not be a true apple for

2219
03:21:35,670 --> 03:21:39,550
apple connection for what was available for literacy for upper all.

2220
03:21:39,550 --> 03:21:45,310
And then the other hesitation I would have is, you know, with what the staff is showing

2221
03:21:45,310 --> 03:21:52,070
with us and what type of style of professional learning that they benefit the most from, you

2222
03:21:52,070 --> 03:21:55,330
know, there is a component of teacher choice within that.

2223
03:21:55,870 --> 03:22:03,810
So if there was an offering of, and, you know, 100% of our teachers didn't go to it, what

2224
03:22:03,810 --> 03:22:09,170
does that look like in terms of, you know, coming back and presenting to the board or the community.

2225
03:22:09,170 --> 03:22:14,630
So that, again, those are the hesitations that I would have with the original piece and

2226
03:22:14,630 --> 03:22:19,570
of course I, especially in late June, when I don't know what our kids are going to look

2227
03:22:19,570 --> 03:22:25,450
like in front of us next fall, sometimes I struggle with the word eliminate, because a

2228
03:22:25,450 --> 03:22:28,950
teacher might need to go to that strategy.

2229
03:22:29,610 --> 03:22:35,790
And it is going to take time for some of our staff to adjust to what's being implemented

2230
03:22:35,790 --> 03:22:41,280
and what's being put in front as a professional learning

2231
03:22:41,280 --> 03:22:43,820
opportunity and a resource and a strategy available

2232
03:22:43,820 --> 03:22:46,220
to attend to a student who may be a struggling reader

2233
03:22:46,620 --> 03:22:47,700
because it may be new for them.

2234
03:22:48,680 --> 03:22:53,560
And we use the word new, sometimes new with veteran staff

2235
03:22:53,560 --> 03:22:57,300
that is only maybe known one way is a longer learning curve.

2236
03:22:57,520 --> 03:23:00,100
So those would just be some hesitations I have.

2237
03:23:01,080 --> 03:23:03,320
But whether there's a resolution or not,

2238
03:23:03,320 --> 03:23:09,600
But, you know, it is our plan and it has been our plan throughout next year to make sure

2239
03:23:09,600 --> 03:23:13,560
that we're updating professional learning to include better understanding of how to

2240
03:23:13,560 --> 03:23:18,640
tend to needs of students that have characteristics of dyslexia, how to better assess that, and

2241
03:23:18,640 --> 03:23:22,880
then how to better utilize instructional practices to meet those needs.

2242
03:23:25,070 --> 03:23:25,590
I have a question.

2243
03:23:25,750 --> 03:23:28,850
Maybe, and this is just for me to learn, is there a better word for us to use other than

2244
03:23:28,850 --> 03:23:29,710
professional development?

2245
03:23:29,710 --> 03:23:42,610
Because what I'm hearing is obviously the option for teachers to pick a professional development and all for that and again, I think having talked to many teachers, having it more based on their subject matter, it would be good.

2246
03:23:43,430 --> 03:23:54,170
But there's also that piece of sometimes there's just certain trainings you have to go to or to make sure that if we're rolling out a policy that we all must follow, that's not, I guess maybe it's a professional development.

2247
03:23:54,250 --> 03:23:55,610
So maybe we're using the wrong word here.

2248
03:23:55,610 --> 03:23:59,070
I'll make sure that in something like this, because really I go back to when I'm reading

2249
03:23:59,070 --> 03:24:02,370
this, this is saying, hey, we just want to make sure everyone knows what the expectation

2250
03:24:02,370 --> 03:24:07,250
is of what is required, what's what we're doing, so maybe that's not professional.

2251
03:24:07,390 --> 03:24:11,130
So maybe this is right, to learn as we write these, what is the right word there?

2252
03:24:11,330 --> 03:24:13,770
Because it sounds like maybe this isn't a professional development that we're talking

2253
03:24:13,770 --> 03:24:13,990
about.

2254
03:24:14,250 --> 03:24:17,110
It is, however, it's not planned for K-5.

2255
03:24:17,410 --> 03:24:21,630
So the plan that we have in place, well, we're pulling everybody together for the early

2256
03:24:21,630 --> 03:24:23,010
literacy stuff is K-2.

2257
03:24:23,010 --> 03:24:28,150
Well, I guess what I'm asking in maybe just in general and take it away from the like if we wanted to say hey

2258
03:24:28,150 --> 03:24:31,770
We want to roll out a policy to make sure everyone's aware that we're doing X

2259
03:24:32,530 --> 03:24:37,830
What is the right word and maybe today will make it sounds like that's not professional development at some point

2260
03:24:37,830 --> 03:24:42,950
We have to be a little people can't just opt out of certain policy certain things we're going to do are just policy

2261
03:24:42,950 --> 03:24:47,370
They you know, they can't just say I'm not going to go to that professional development so therefore I don't follow the policy

2262
03:24:47,850 --> 03:24:51,710
So that's where I'm looking to get educated and as we write these to me

2263
03:24:51,710 --> 03:24:58,850
That's where we feel like this is going towards it's some some of these things might not be professional development because we don't want to have that be the hurdle of

2264
03:24:58,850 --> 03:25:02,370
Oh, because we call the professional development people can opt in and out of it

2265
03:25:02,370 --> 03:25:07,190
So again, and maybe that question goes over here. What is the right word when we're saying hey?

2266
03:25:07,370 --> 03:25:12,630
We're rolling something out that everyone needs to know what the expectation is to make sure that we're all following it

2267
03:25:13,590 --> 03:25:15,510
Is that is there a different word to use or

2268
03:25:15,510 --> 03:25:16,310
Yeah,

2269
03:25:20,480 --> 03:25:36,720
I'm not sure. I think we're getting off of the subject here at hand, but I would say professional development is any teaching that we do instruction information for our staff that is held in a group setting, or I guess it could even be virtual.

2270
03:25:37,560 --> 03:25:47,000
If you're talking about just rolling a potentially a policy out that doesn't need additional support, I mean something like that can be emailed to someone.

2271
03:25:47,000 --> 03:25:49,300
and it just depends on what we're talking about.

2272
03:25:53,550 --> 03:25:55,990
So I guess then are some professional development

2273
03:25:55,990 --> 03:25:56,950
than mandatory?

2274
03:25:57,750 --> 03:25:58,590
Which ones are mandatory?

2275
03:25:58,750 --> 03:26:00,190
Because I mean, that's the part.

2276
03:26:00,390 --> 03:26:01,550
Yeah, it can be related to teaching,

2277
03:26:02,110 --> 03:26:04,470
but then there's got to be something that can't always just be

2278
03:26:04,470 --> 03:26:05,570
I can just opt out of it.

2279
03:26:05,750 --> 03:26:07,150
So, again, I'm just really familiar

2280
03:26:07,150 --> 03:26:08,190
how we make this work.

2281
03:26:08,850 --> 03:26:10,610
And really, because there's going to be more of these going forward,

2282
03:26:10,730 --> 03:26:11,810
so if we can get the right verbiage,

2283
03:26:11,910 --> 03:26:13,550
so that we can cut some of this debate out,

2284
03:26:13,750 --> 03:26:14,650
it would be helpful.

2285
03:26:15,810 --> 03:26:17,850
Because again, there can't just always be this default

2286
03:26:18,370 --> 03:26:21,730
We call it professional development and then we get into well, I can opt out of it.

2287
03:26:21,870 --> 03:26:24,990
There's certain times in no communicating broad expectations.

2288
03:26:25,470 --> 03:26:27,670
Doing it via email is one of the worst forms of communication.

2289
03:26:28,010 --> 03:26:33,110
So if that's our district's policy to do it that way, they definitely need to revisit that because they should definitely be face-to-face.

2290
03:26:35,930 --> 03:26:36,750
This is Gupta.

2291
03:26:38,290 --> 03:26:40,770
I just want to clarify Mr. Hyesh.

2292
03:26:41,170 --> 03:26:49,070
What I encourage you to say is that there's already a plan to roll out comprehensive PD on this topic

2293
03:26:49,070 --> 03:26:56,330
for K, kindergarten through second grade, but not beyond that up to fifth grade at this time.

2294
03:26:56,670 --> 03:27:07,890
So your concern in with this language is that it would then put the burden on you all to figure out how to kind of push that through

2295
03:27:07,890 --> 03:27:15,390
after having already maybe communicated to your staff that they would have choice in their pd at that time and

2296
03:27:15,390 --> 03:27:19,410
and trying to reconcile that within the timeframe mandated by this language.

2297
03:27:19,930 --> 03:27:20,770
Did I hear that, Ryan?

2298
03:27:23,380 --> 03:27:27,080
Yes, but there will still be literacy opportunities for

2299
03:27:27,080 --> 03:27:29,760
professional learning for our upper grades as well.

2300
03:27:31,760 --> 03:27:34,560
It's just a matter of when that will fall in the calendar.

2301
03:27:35,000 --> 03:27:39,780
So again, I know it's kind of great and nuanced, and I apologize for that.

2302
03:27:40,220 --> 03:27:45,720
But that's the reality of the situation that we find ourselves in for what we've planned at the start of next school year.

2303
03:27:45,720 --> 03:27:51,120
And then throughout the course of the year, we have mechanisms in place to gather feedback from staff

2304
03:27:51,720 --> 03:27:57,560
What they are seeing as a need to make sure that we're offering useful and purposeful professional learning opportunities for them.

2305
03:27:59,960 --> 03:28:08,060
I guess I would just say at this point, based on what I'm hearing that you have things in place already for next year that you are looking at

2306
03:28:10,100 --> 03:28:17,880
Taking literacy and I'm assuming that you have heard the concerns from the board about some of what was presented

2307
03:28:17,900 --> 03:28:38,800
that there are some issues that are from prior curriculum or from curriculum that's not inside this district that had to do with queuing and some other things that may not be the best practices that you would take that back and work on getting that information to the teachers that need to know it.

2308
03:28:39,160 --> 03:28:45,420
So at this point, I would not be supporting this so I'm just communicating that to the board. Mrs. LaCouille.

2309
03:28:45,420 --> 03:28:52,720
All right, so my final statement, first of all, I hear you, Mr. Haish, I would be open

2310
03:28:52,720 --> 03:28:57,960
to amending this to say K through 2 if that, you know, corresponds better to what your

2311
03:28:57,960 --> 03:28:58,720
planning was.

2312
03:28:58,940 --> 03:28:59,400
I am.

2313
03:28:59,480 --> 03:29:03,520
But just here answering your questions, I don't have any opinion on what your resolution

2314
03:29:03,520 --> 03:29:04,060
should read.

2315
03:29:04,480 --> 03:29:04,720
Okay.

2316
03:29:05,040 --> 03:29:09,260
In any case, I would be open to amending this to say K through 2.

2317
03:29:09,260 --> 03:29:17,860
The purpose of this motion was to make it clear the board has a vision for the district and

2318
03:29:17,860 --> 03:29:23,040
ask our administrators to carry out something actionable that relates to that vision.

2319
03:29:23,820 --> 03:29:29,380
I don't think asking for professional development to occur sometime in the beginning of the year is that unreasonable.

2320
03:29:29,880 --> 03:29:34,640
Considering that's what the district is planning on doing anyway and this is a very urgent issue.

2321
03:29:34,640 --> 03:29:39,940
I'm concerned about some of the amendments to my motion because I'm afraid that it's

2322
03:29:39,940 --> 03:29:42,860
neutered it so much that it doesn't really mean anything anymore.

2323
03:29:43,180 --> 03:29:48,540
It's just kind of a vague statement that doesn't have anything actionable and people don't

2324
03:29:48,540 --> 03:29:49,840
know what to expect from it.

2325
03:29:50,900 --> 03:29:51,460
Okay.

2326
03:29:51,680 --> 03:29:55,020
Well, at this point we have an amendment to the amendment.

2327
03:29:56,120 --> 03:29:59,800
So first, at this point, we would vote on the amendment.

2328
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:29,880
Which is, I move that the, we direct acting superintendent, Debbie Fragamani, to ensure that professional development, which will be scheduled to take place in the next school year for all K-5 teachers will include updated instruction about best practices and literacy informed by recent research and laws for continuous improvement. So that's currently what's on the table. It has been moved and supported. So all of those in favor of that, please say aye.

2329
03:30:29,880 --> 03:30:30,020
Hi.

2330
03:30:30,360 --> 03:30:30,880
Hi.

2331
03:30:31,000 --> 03:30:31,140
Hi.

2332
03:30:31,820 --> 03:30:34,360
Can I see hands because I only two?

2333
03:30:35,020 --> 03:30:36,160
Those opposed?

2334
03:30:36,460 --> 03:30:36,980
Say nay?

2335
03:30:37,700 --> 03:30:38,020
Nay.

2336
03:30:38,080 --> 03:30:38,260
Nay.

2337
03:30:38,480 --> 03:30:38,560
Nay.

2338
03:30:38,880 --> 03:30:40,120
That's a two five vote.

2339
03:30:41,120 --> 03:30:41,440
All right.

2340
03:30:41,860 --> 03:30:43,120
So that does not pass.

2341
03:30:43,320 --> 03:30:48,820
So then we are back to the first amendment, which was,

2342
03:30:51,530 --> 03:30:53,250
I move that we direct acting superintendent

2343
03:30:53,250 --> 03:30:57,730
Debbie Fraggamani to ensure that professional development which will be scheduled to take

2344
03:30:57,730 --> 03:31:02,730
place in the next school year for all K-5 teachers will include updated instruction

2345
03:31:03,430 --> 03:31:09,630
about best practices in literacy informed by recent research and laws, all problematic

2346
03:31:09,630 --> 03:31:15,930
lessons and old queuing strategies that linger in our current Lucy Cockins, units of reading

2347
03:31:15,930 --> 03:31:21,730
and writing curriculum, which we learned about at the literacy work session on May 22nd

2348
03:31:21,730 --> 03:31:22,630
will be addressed.

2349
03:31:24,030 --> 03:31:26,170
And that has been moved and supported.

2350
03:31:26,170 --> 03:31:32,990
So all of those in favor of that motion, please say aye.

2351
03:31:35,380 --> 03:31:37,800
Okay, I have one opposed, please say no.

2352
03:31:38,760 --> 03:31:39,020
No.

2353
03:31:39,680 --> 03:31:41,340
That's a one-six vote.

2354
03:31:41,760 --> 03:31:49,720
So we are back to the original motion that is at the start of the next school year and

2355
03:31:49,720 --> 03:31:51,880
includes the end eliminated.

2356
03:31:51,880 --> 03:31:58,280
at this point is there to amend the motion to say K through 2 instead of K through 5.

2357
03:31:59,080 --> 03:32:10,380
Okay, so there is an amendment to change K5 to K2 and that was moved by Mrs. LaCouille

2358
03:32:10,380 --> 03:32:17,600
and support by Mr. Weaver. Do we need a discussion on that or can we vote?

2359
03:32:18,700 --> 03:32:23,300
All those in favor of accepting the amendment, please say aye.

2360
03:32:25,480 --> 03:32:27,360
I think how many hands did I see there, please?

2361
03:32:27,820 --> 03:32:30,360
Okay, three, those opposed, please say no.

2362
03:32:30,940 --> 03:32:31,140
No.

2363
03:32:31,280 --> 03:32:31,440
No.

2364
03:32:32,120 --> 03:32:33,400
I think that was four.

2365
03:32:33,780 --> 03:32:34,180
I'm saying.

2366
03:32:34,900 --> 03:32:36,320
Three, three, and one.

2367
03:32:37,440 --> 03:32:43,720
Okay, so we are back to the original motion, which is all K5 teachers.

2368
03:32:44,960 --> 03:32:48,160
So is there any additional, Mrs. Osbach?

2369
03:32:48,160 --> 03:32:53,320
I have a question for Trustee La Cuey, so correct me if I'm wrong President

2370
03:32:53,320 --> 03:32:58,080
Dutel right now, we are at the version of this that says and eliminated.

2371
03:32:58,560 --> 03:32:58,580
Yep.

2372
03:32:59,240 --> 03:33:04,400
Okay, so how do you envision the operational, what's the tangible outcome when we

2373
03:33:04,400 --> 03:33:11,220
get to and eliminate it? Like, if a teacher sends that home, is she sanctioned, is

2374
03:33:11,220 --> 03:33:16,520
she, I mean, I just, I kind of feel like, but it says and eliminated. So if I am an

2375
03:33:16,520 --> 03:33:22,680
employee, I need to follow policy. So what is that? What jeopardy are we putting in people

2376
03:33:22,680 --> 03:33:29,080
that have that in their curriculum? Well, this is referring to our current

2377
03:33:29,080 --> 03:33:34,040
Lucy Carkins units of reading and writing curriculum. So I'm assuming that all of those

2378
03:33:34,040 --> 03:33:39,040
lessons the ones that are teaching those strategies are consultants will tell teachers don't use

2379
03:33:39,040 --> 03:33:44,640
these pages. These are the wrong strategies. They don't. So we changed our math curriculum

2380
03:33:44,640 --> 03:33:54,000
And now we're changing our professional development at the beginning of the school, which I can walk you through a schedule.

2381
03:33:54,360 --> 03:33:58,020
It's really pretty traumatic to do that at the beginning.

2382
03:33:58,380 --> 03:34:03,220
Literally, there's only a few days, you have to do a whole district, you have to do operational stuff.

2383
03:34:03,540 --> 03:34:10,920
So I support the idea of looking at the queueing, I support the idea of the signs of reading.

2384
03:34:10,920 --> 03:34:14,400
I mean, I think the orthographic mapping that, you know,

2385
03:34:15,160 --> 03:34:18,060
our phonics is explicit instruction is a good idea,

2386
03:34:18,740 --> 03:34:21,860
just on the operation, on the, how we're operational,

2387
03:34:23,400 --> 03:34:25,080
how we're putting this into practice

2388
03:34:25,080 --> 03:34:26,440
is problematic for me.

2389
03:34:27,480 --> 03:34:30,200
They could have a, I mean, they could do a presentation.

2390
03:34:30,600 --> 03:34:32,380
Don't teach kids to look at them.

2391
03:34:32,520 --> 03:34:34,260
And how would you do those lessons instead?

2392
03:34:34,580 --> 03:34:36,800
So if we say, if we say queuing,

2393
03:34:37,000 --> 03:34:39,980
and I do agree that queuing might not work for all people,

2394
03:34:39,980 --> 03:34:44,060
for all learning readings, but if we say, okay, so, well, it's not reading.

2395
03:34:44,060 --> 03:34:47,040
QAINN is now forbidden, that's been eliminated.

2396
03:34:47,640 --> 03:34:48,960
So, then what do they do?

2397
03:34:49,300 --> 03:34:55,420
I mean, are you asking our curriculum department to then identify less than 6.7, 7.2, and 8.1

2398
03:34:55,420 --> 03:35:00,240
can't be taught, just sit there and look at the wall instead, or hear the other people

2399
03:35:00,240 --> 03:35:00,740
of curriculum.

2400
03:35:01,000 --> 03:35:02,820
I mean, we have the thought of as curriculum.

2401
03:35:03,580 --> 03:35:08,300
Teach kids how to sound out the words, but now you're telling them that they need to adjust

2402
03:35:08,300 --> 03:35:15,960
the curriculum. So, you know, you want to identify what lessons are now eliminated. I just

2403
03:35:15,960 --> 03:35:20,220
I fully believe in our experts that they're able that they're fully capable of doing that.

2404
03:35:20,620 --> 03:35:25,380
Basically, this is just, you know, it's not my ideal. Quite honestly, if it were up to me,

2405
03:35:25,700 --> 03:35:30,000
I would be looking into other curriculums that don't get a grade of F in

2406
03:35:30,000 --> 03:35:34,960
ed reports. And I'm just trying to say what can we do with our current situation right now?

2407
03:35:34,960 --> 03:35:37,180
where this is an urgent situation.

2408
03:35:37,600 --> 03:35:41,160
Parents are having to get tutoring for their kids if they can afford it.

2409
03:35:41,520 --> 03:35:44,480
And these kids aren't learning how to read, and they're coming here, and they're,

2410
03:35:44,620 --> 03:35:46,720
you know, very upset on those people.

2411
03:35:47,600 --> 03:35:51,520
We need to make sure this is an urgent situation, it's directly related to education.

2412
03:35:51,920 --> 03:35:56,600
We have to make sure that the teaching strategies that we are using are actually

2413
03:35:56,600 --> 03:35:59,340
teaching how to do the concept that we want to be teaching.

2414
03:35:59,340 --> 03:36:05,620
Okay. Well this just says not- this just says what not to teach. It doesn't say what to teach.

2415
03:36:06,000 --> 03:36:06,560
So this is an explanation-

2416
03:36:06,560 --> 03:36:10,640
To eliminate what doesn't work. Use what does work. Eliminate what doesn't work.

2417
03:36:11,220 --> 03:36:12,360
It doesn't present what-

2418
03:36:12,360 --> 03:36:15,920
Okay. I'm going to ask Mrs. Annis. I- I call the question.

2419
03:36:17,380 --> 03:36:21,100
All right. Is there support for calling the previous question?

2420
03:36:22,620 --> 03:36:28,140
Move by- move by Mrs. Annis with support by Mrs. Bull.

2421
03:36:28,140 --> 03:36:36,620
So at this point, we have the original motion on the floor, is there any public comment?

2422
03:36:37,460 --> 03:36:41,260
I'm sorry, let's first let's vote on calling the question and then we'll take the public comment.

2423
03:36:42,080 --> 03:36:48,080
All those in favor of calling the question, please say aye, aye, those opposed?

2424
03:36:49,320 --> 03:36:49,880
That's a six,

2425
03:36:52,480 --> 03:36:59,680
sorry, that's a six-one vote, so we will call for the previous question, is there any public comment?

2426
03:37:01,220 --> 03:37:08,920
Okay, so all of those in favor of approving the original motion, please say aye.

2427
03:37:10,200 --> 03:37:10,360
Aye.

2428
03:37:13,090 --> 03:37:15,730
Two, those opposed, please say no.

2429
03:37:16,190 --> 03:37:17,010
No, no.

2430
03:37:17,870 --> 03:37:23,330
Okay, so that's a two, a five, no, two, four, one.

2431
03:37:24,350 --> 03:37:28,850
All right, so now, let me think I got to find where we are.

2432
03:37:29,890 --> 03:37:36,930
Okay so now we are at citizens requesting placement on the agenda and I do have a couple

2433
03:37:36,930 --> 03:37:44,170
people who have who have turned in yellow cards, I'm going to call your name and then

2434
03:37:44,170 --> 03:37:56,710
I will read this, Randy Varing followed by Jenny Walsh followed by Gracie Walsh and just

2435
03:37:56,710 --> 03:38:02,030
Mr. Reminder, if you do want to speak to please fill out the yellow card, you'll have three minutes to speak.

2436
03:38:02,730 --> 03:38:07,410
Please address your comments to the entire board and not to individual board members or

2437
03:38:07,410 --> 03:38:09,610
school district employees or members of the audience.

2438
03:38:10,290 --> 03:38:12,510
Are you Randy Varing?

2439
03:38:13,370 --> 03:38:19,190
I'm Randy Vavric, and I've been working in Rochester Hills since 1978.

2440
03:38:19,890 --> 03:38:25,070
I had four of my grown children who went through Rochester schools and

2441
03:38:25,070 --> 03:38:27,310
And they had an absolutely wonderful education.

2442
03:38:29,310 --> 03:38:34,750
I am a person, I am a retired high school and middle school

2443
03:38:34,750 --> 03:38:35,410
counselor.

2444
03:38:36,090 --> 03:38:39,570
I've also worked in a crisis unit, and also

2445
03:38:39,570 --> 03:38:41,270
as a psychiatric screener.

2446
03:38:44,320 --> 03:38:46,700
Oh, and also I have a prophetic calling,

2447
03:38:46,840 --> 03:38:48,760
and I feel that I am a servant of the Lord.

2448
03:38:51,010 --> 03:38:55,830
I absolutely agree with you that every student should

2449
03:38:55,830 --> 03:38:57,890
feel welcome and accepted.

2450
03:38:59,330 --> 03:39:00,570
However,

2451
03:39:03,440 --> 03:39:12,920
I disagree in regard to what we're doing with our curriculum in that we are encouraging

2452
03:39:12,920 --> 03:39:23,260
students to define who they are sexually and introduce them to materials that they're

2453
03:39:23,260 --> 03:39:31,260
they're too young, they're not mature enough to process them in order to make these kind

2454
03:39:31,260 --> 03:39:37,460
of life decisions that, you know, is going to alter their life.

2455
03:39:38,440 --> 03:39:45,780
So I just hope that the board will be open to really looking at the school district and

2456
03:39:45,780 --> 03:39:46,500
what they're doing.

2457
03:39:47,920 --> 03:39:52,880
I think that Rochester Community School District is heading in the wrong direction.

2458
03:39:53,780 --> 03:40:02,540
And I think the board needs to recognize that parents have a right to know what their

2459
03:40:03,120 --> 03:40:04,460
children are being taught.

2460
03:40:07,200 --> 03:40:09,240
You know, it's just not right.

2461
03:40:09,540 --> 03:40:14,840
I mean, the parents are important to their children and they know what their children,

2462
03:40:15,000 --> 03:40:21,020
they know how their children are and they just should have some say people.

2463
03:40:21,020 --> 03:40:27,500
We should not be it should not be hidden from parents what teachers are teaching

2464
03:40:29,100 --> 03:40:37,200
And I think that the district is going to be losing students and already has lost students. I know my my three granddaughters

2465
03:40:37,840 --> 03:40:42,980
My daughter finally said okay. I'm gonna I'm gonna have to send them to private school

2466
03:40:44,000 --> 03:40:48,440
So I think maybe you're forecasting maybe you're right about your numbers

2467
03:40:48,440 --> 03:40:54,540
but 30 seconds but I think you know you need to rethink about it. You just need

2468
03:40:54,540 --> 03:40:58,660
to rethink what you're doing and after watching this and having you some of you

2469
03:40:58,660 --> 03:41:03,340
were saying you disagreed about the attorney but then yet we just bamboozled

2470
03:41:03,340 --> 03:41:07,740
and it went right through when people have concerns they need to be taken

2471
03:41:07,740 --> 03:41:13,400
seriously and I thank you for considering what I've been said tonight.

2472
03:41:13,400 --> 03:41:13,460
All right.

2473
03:41:14,140 --> 03:41:14,700
Thank you.

2474
03:41:17,040 --> 03:41:17,640
Thank you.

2475
03:41:18,580 --> 03:41:19,720
Jenny Walsh.

2476
03:41:22,390 --> 03:41:23,810
I'm Jenny Walsh.

2477
03:41:24,030 --> 03:41:30,550
I grew up in the district, moved away, came back, have been here for five years, have

2478
03:41:30,550 --> 03:41:36,610
two students who graduated from the district and one who, moving along through the system.

2479
03:41:37,130 --> 03:41:42,630
I just want to say that on behalf of our entire family, we are so thankful for the resolution

2480
03:41:42,630 --> 03:41:48,250
supporting the LGBTQI, it was messed up the ladders and my

2481
03:41:48,250 --> 03:41:52,510
profiter behind me always corrects me. It's very important to

2482
03:41:52,510 --> 03:41:58,430
our family. My son knew from early age that he was gay, he knew, and

2483
03:41:58,430 --> 03:42:03,510
we knew, and we loved him, and we support him, and he was the

2484
03:42:03,510 --> 03:42:07,370
real, but his high school, because he thinks, because you meet

2485
03:42:07,370 --> 03:42:11,010
here, his, also sports them.

2486
03:42:11,550 --> 03:42:12,190
So, thank you.

2487
03:42:15,140 --> 03:42:16,220
All right, are you Gracie?

2488
03:42:16,700 --> 03:42:16,820
Yeah.

2489
03:42:20,960 --> 03:42:24,600
So, RCS, I'm a student and I go here

2490
03:42:25,140 --> 03:42:28,040
and I know a lot of friends, I know myself.

2491
03:42:28,680 --> 03:42:31,140
I know that, especially with exams,

2492
03:42:31,600 --> 03:42:33,100
it puts a lot of stress on us.

2493
03:42:33,700 --> 03:42:37,280
And I heard someone earlier talk about how

2494
03:42:38,040 --> 03:42:39,580
honor health shouldn't be in school

2495
03:42:39,580 --> 03:42:41,680
and mental health should just stay at home.

2496
03:42:42,260 --> 03:42:43,560
And I really don't think that's right,

2497
03:42:43,760 --> 03:42:45,820
because not everyone has access at home,

2498
03:42:46,220 --> 03:42:47,560
like not everyone's the same.

2499
03:42:49,380 --> 03:42:52,580
And if RCS is gonna say they have an inclusive environment,

2500
03:42:52,820 --> 03:42:55,300
then they need to include those who are struggling too.

2501
03:42:56,180 --> 03:42:59,120
Also about the LGBTQ community.

2502
03:43:00,260 --> 03:43:03,640
Again, if you're gonna say it's an inclusive environment

2503
03:43:03,640 --> 03:43:05,400
then you need to include everyone.

2504
03:43:05,860 --> 03:43:08,540
And it really makes me upset that a lot of people

2505
03:43:08,540 --> 03:43:14,740
People are not treated properly and you're really not too young like people know who they are.

2506
03:43:15,260 --> 03:43:16,300
I know who I am.

2507
03:43:16,780 --> 03:43:21,820
If there was, I wish I had more students for you than, and they could say that they know

2508
03:43:21,820 --> 03:43:29,040
who they are and they grew up and they were allowed to know their sexuality and what should

2509
03:43:29,040 --> 03:43:37,040
be discriminated against and also throughout elementary school and middle school and high

2510
03:43:37,040 --> 03:43:41,820
school, I've been discriminating against for many things, especially my race.

2511
03:43:42,940 --> 03:43:48,080
And it's just really sad that if RCS is going to say that they're really inclusive,

2512
03:43:48,080 --> 03:43:51,540
and they support everyone, and they're all brought in excellence,

2513
03:43:51,880 --> 03:43:56,520
then they need to help people to pursue that excellence.

2514
03:43:56,980 --> 03:44:02,630
And there's a lot behind students pursuing that excellence.

2515
03:44:07,440 --> 03:44:14,980
And as a black person and a girl, I have had my voice shut down, so I'm very happy for this opportunity to speak.

2516
03:44:15,320 --> 03:44:15,720
Thank you.

2517
03:44:16,160 --> 03:44:17,000
Thank you.

2518
03:44:22,410 --> 03:44:23,330
Joshua Raymond.

2519
03:44:34,180 --> 03:44:35,140
Good evening, board.

2520
03:44:35,920 --> 03:44:37,340
That's a tough one to follow.

2521
03:44:40,180 --> 03:44:47,740
Madam President, I would like to quote directly from Aeson versus Madison, local school district.

2522
03:44:49,180 --> 03:44:55,000
Abusive and personally directed restrictions are facially unconstitutional.

2523
03:44:56,920 --> 03:44:59,600
Accordingly, the policy's restrictions.

2524
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:08,740
It's on abusive, personally directed in a taginistic speech, facially, and as applied, violate the First Amendment.

2525
03:45:09,800 --> 03:45:18,720
As all trustees are sworn to uphold the U.S. Constitution, I ask you to not require people to address the entire board.

2526
03:45:19,320 --> 03:45:21,260
This is against the First Amendment. Thank you.

2527
03:45:21,260 --> 03:45:21,960
I

2528
03:45:26,020 --> 03:45:29,540
think that's the end of one more.

2529
03:45:32,100 --> 03:45:35,680
Can you just read that name so I know who they can start speaking,

2530
03:45:38,400 --> 03:45:40,520
or if they're coming up and they know who they are?

2531
03:45:40,700 --> 03:45:44,000
Ms. Neff, thank you, I can't see.

2532
03:45:47,120 --> 03:45:49,360
Hi, I'm a parent in the district.

2533
03:45:49,540 --> 03:45:52,560
I have four kids, one graduate and three here.

2534
03:45:53,560 --> 03:45:59,980
My son who's my third boy is moving on to high school.

2535
03:45:59,980 --> 03:46:06,900
school, and he's doing very well in school. I'm not sure I would have said that in

2536
03:46:06,900 --> 03:46:15,460
like second, third grade. He's a really smart kid, and his reading really didn't reflect

2537
03:46:15,460 --> 03:46:15,880
that.

2538
03:46:18,040 --> 03:46:27,700
He could read. I think the books that he was interested in intellectually were above

2539
03:46:27,700 --> 03:46:36,300
his capacity to read and even in his third grade conference the teacher said, you know

2540
03:46:36,300 --> 03:46:42,740
it's like he guesses, he looks at the front of the word and he guesses it and then you

2541
03:46:42,740 --> 03:46:49,480
get too many guesses wrong and you lose the plot, like literally lose the plot. So his

2542
03:46:49,480 --> 03:47:16,440
His comprehension skills really, his scores were just troubling and puzzling, and you know what, he figured it out, he reads just fine, he's a bit of a reluctant reader, maybe because of this, I have my fair share of mom guilt about this and as I said, I have four kids and their paths were all a little bit different.

2543
03:47:16,440 --> 03:47:26,460
And he's one of the kids who I think would fall into the realm of he would figure it out

2544
03:47:26,460 --> 03:47:29,460
eventually, and he had a lot of support at home.

2545
03:47:31,820 --> 03:47:44,200
I came up here to thank you all for working on literacy, and I think this is, I don't envy

2546
03:47:44,200 --> 03:47:50,460
any one of you seven board members your job. I mean I know this is a

2547
03:47:50,460 --> 03:47:56,980
volunteer position. I've done my fair share of volunteering but not in this

2548
03:47:57,680 --> 03:48:04,740
environment or in this public of a manner and I think today is I've seen true

2549
03:48:04,740 --> 03:48:10,980
attempts at cooperation. I think we all agree that literacy is not only a moral

2550
03:48:10,980 --> 03:48:20,080
imperative it is also the our current it's a civil rights issue it's our modern day civil rights

2551
03:48:20,080 --> 03:48:27,880
issue and I think there's a lot of there's a lot of agreement on evolving when we know better we do

2552
03:48:27,880 --> 03:48:35,660
better and so while this might feel like a few steps forward and a few steps back I'm very encouraged

2553
03:48:36,180 --> 03:48:49,400
by the work that you all continue to do and to our administrators who are really just continuing to work and doing their jobs, so I appreciate all the efforts that you're putting in. Thank you.

2554
03:48:51,340 --> 03:48:52,060
Thank you.

2555
03:48:53,040 --> 03:48:55,560
All right, we've come to additional comments.

2556
03:48:56,340 --> 03:49:00,080
agenda item 9.1 is additional comments by members of the Board of Education.

2557
03:49:00,080 --> 03:49:08,400
Individual board members may use this time to share information about school visits, updates from committees or organizations that are assigned to or express their personal opinion.

2558
03:49:09,340 --> 03:49:13,900
Do any members of the board have additional comments at this time? Dr. Osbach?

2559
03:49:18,640 --> 03:49:22,460
I attended the graduation at race with many of our board members.

2560
03:49:23,220 --> 03:49:30,740
I was very impressed with students that have a difficult path through graduation.

2561
03:49:30,740 --> 03:49:41,540
We heard to speakers who both had come back and gotten diplomas and they had wanted it because their diploma was going to give them a better job.

2562
03:49:42,040 --> 03:49:45,100
And one of them said, you know, I was inspired by my son to do better.

2563
03:49:45,940 --> 03:49:53,580
And I did really like this Annas quote that says you can do hard things because you did do hard things.

2564
03:49:53,820 --> 03:49:56,880
So I thought that was a very good part of her speech.

2565
03:49:56,880 --> 03:50:02,800
And I appreciate President Butteau recognizing that it is Juneteenth.

2566
03:50:03,700 --> 03:50:08,760
And I do want to just mention that, you know, this is a day of freedom and emancipation

2567
03:50:08,760 --> 03:50:16,300
where in a world where our news travels in 30 seconds, and we have 100 comments, 34 seconds

2568
03:50:16,300 --> 03:50:22,080
later on Facebook, it's hard to imagine a place where it took people two years to figure

2569
03:50:22,080 --> 03:50:25,440
out that they had that gift of freedom.

2570
03:50:25,440 --> 03:50:29,680
So, I just want to acknowledge that, and thank you.

2571
03:50:32,220 --> 03:50:33,960
Thank you, Mr. Weaver.

2572
03:50:35,020 --> 03:50:39,080
So, I actually want to make a comment for around the data.

2573
03:50:39,240 --> 03:50:43,600
So, one, I'm a huge data person, so trustee, also, I appreciate you bringing some data.

2574
03:50:44,980 --> 03:50:48,560
Unfortunately, that's not really the data that we have to be looking at.

2575
03:50:48,680 --> 03:50:55,000
So, I did make the request at the last meeting, to, I will, I don't interrupt, I'll explain.

2576
03:50:55,860 --> 03:51:01,800
Some of the coming from a data field, not all numbers are good data.

2577
03:51:02,140 --> 03:51:04,160
You have the term is called garbage and garbage out.

2578
03:51:04,840 --> 03:51:09,580
So what I was saying was, I made the request of Mr. McDaniels, I'll send it formally.

2579
03:51:10,220 --> 03:51:15,220
What we need to look at is the five-year history of the growth of our central office.

2580
03:51:16,060 --> 03:51:21,160
Only looking at jobs of over 100,000, that eliminates a lot of jobs that are below 100,000.

2581
03:51:21,160 --> 03:51:24,720
Again, we want to look at FTE, what are the roles, what are the responsibilities.

2582
03:51:25,400 --> 03:51:30,300
Also, we've had a history of having contract employees that do not show up on the transparency report.

2583
03:51:30,980 --> 03:51:35,800
So again, I'm not saying that the data is completely irrelevant, but it's also to say,

2584
03:51:36,080 --> 03:51:41,680
if we have a systemic problem in public education where we're seeing bureaucracy grow in the central office,

2585
03:51:41,680 --> 03:51:45,260
which does actually model what we've saw at higher ed.

2586
03:51:45,840 --> 03:51:50,000
And the growth of faculty of the growth of bureaucracy versus the professors.

2587
03:51:50,520 --> 03:51:55,860
So, if we're seeing that same trend, the data we have to look at is the total head count,

2588
03:51:56,120 --> 03:51:57,680
the total growth of salary.

2589
03:51:58,240 --> 03:52:00,760
It's just about getting the proper data to make a true assessment.

2590
03:52:01,140 --> 03:52:05,460
That would be more accurate in what we need to look at to see if are we growing from a

2591
03:52:05,460 --> 03:52:11,480
bureaucracy standpoint, just comparing ourselves to other K-12 schools, and because we're growing

2592
03:52:11,480 --> 03:52:14,820
at the same rate they are, that's again not a good set of data.

2593
03:52:15,120 --> 03:52:15,820
That's all I was saying.

2594
03:52:15,820 --> 03:52:17,880
And so again, it's not about it not fitting something.

2595
03:52:18,340 --> 03:52:21,180
It's about looking at relative data and what you're trying to accomplish.

2596
03:52:21,620 --> 03:52:24,960
Again, central office is the farthest away from our students.

2597
03:52:25,380 --> 03:52:28,180
We want to get the funds as close to our students.

2598
03:52:28,760 --> 03:52:32,940
And again, I know some people get really upset when I call it product, but again, that is what we produce.

2599
03:52:33,200 --> 03:52:37,040
Our teachers, our students, that is where we want the most far funds.

2600
03:52:37,320 --> 03:52:42,300
So no, the data that you presented is again a way to say we are as good or

2601
03:52:42,300 --> 03:52:44,960
are not as bad as the rest of K-12.

2602
03:52:45,400 --> 03:52:46,960
I would like to think the vision of our board

2603
03:52:46,960 --> 03:52:48,540
is to be the best that we can be,

2604
03:52:48,820 --> 03:52:50,140
and that means let's use the right data.

2605
03:52:50,520 --> 03:52:52,440
So again, as we continue to move forward,

2606
03:52:52,660 --> 03:52:54,300
I also want to thank everyone that's still here.

2607
03:52:54,600 --> 03:52:58,020
It is past 11 o'clock on the June meeting.

2608
03:52:58,740 --> 03:53:00,820
So again, I really appreciate everyone that showed up,

2609
03:53:00,880 --> 03:53:01,440
all the comments.

2610
03:53:02,480 --> 03:53:05,380
Again, we are making a lot of good progress in our district

2611
03:53:05,760 --> 03:53:07,840
and opening up dialogue sometimes it's not easy.

2612
03:53:08,000 --> 03:53:09,760
So again, thank you to the community that's paying attention.

2613
03:53:11,970 --> 03:53:13,990
Mr. Scupta, do you believe me?

2614
03:53:14,350 --> 03:53:15,010
Mrs. LaCouille.

2615
03:53:17,390 --> 03:53:22,030
So a community member reminded us tonight that reading is a civil rights issue.

2616
03:53:22,730 --> 03:53:28,710
There's a documentary called The Right to Read, and it was made available to stream for free today in honor of Juneteenth.

2617
03:53:31,370 --> 03:53:32,770
I found out ad reports.

2618
03:53:33,690 --> 03:53:37,850
Rates are current Lucy Cockins reading and writing curriculum at a grade F.

2619
03:53:38,630 --> 03:53:45,050
What they say is, the instructional materials for kindergarten, grade one, and grade two do not mean

2620
03:53:45,050 --> 03:53:50,330
the expectations of alignment. The tax included in the materials are not appropriately complex

2621
03:53:50,330 --> 03:53:56,350
for the grade level and do not build in complexity over the course of the year. Materials do not include

2622
03:53:56,350 --> 03:54:01,170
questions and tasks aligned to grade level standards but rather focus on strategy instruction.

2623
03:54:02,190 --> 03:54:09,430
Additionally, materials rely on queuing and queuing including meanings, syntax, and visual cues

2624
03:54:09,430 --> 03:54:11,390
as it means to teach reading skills.

2625
03:54:12,130 --> 03:54:14,990
Foundational skills instruction lacks a cohesive

2626
03:54:14,990 --> 03:54:17,390
and intentional scope and sequence for systematic

2627
03:54:17,390 --> 03:54:20,430
and explicit instruction in phonological awareness

2628
03:54:20,430 --> 03:54:21,190
and phonics.

2629
03:54:21,870 --> 03:54:24,790
The program also lacks a research-based rationale

2630
03:54:25,250 --> 03:54:27,230
for the order of phonological awareness

2631
03:54:27,230 --> 03:54:28,330
and phonics instruction.

2632
03:54:29,210 --> 03:54:32,210
The reading units mainly utilize a queuing system

2633
03:54:32,490 --> 03:54:36,090
for solving unknown words that focus on the initial sound

2634
03:54:36,090 --> 03:54:39,570
and meaning cues, rather than on decoding strategies.

2635
03:54:40,570 --> 03:54:46,730
The components of the program are not cohesive and often contradict the skills being taught,

2636
03:54:47,130 --> 03:54:50,370
especially pertaining to the order of foundational skills instruction.

2637
03:54:51,870 --> 03:54:59,690
I read this just so that you can understand we have to acknowledge a problem in order to be able to find solutions.

2638
03:55:00,490 --> 03:55:03,770
Some kids will learn how to read in spite of this curriculum.

2639
03:55:03,770 --> 03:55:17,650
I'm fortunate my kids have learned how to read and they have not struggled but I've heard from too many parents whose kids are struggling and they're put in a really unfair position if it's the curriculum that's doing that damage.

2640
03:55:18,390 --> 03:55:22,630
That's why I tried to propose a literacy motion to try to get something concrete.

2641
03:55:23,230 --> 03:55:27,050
I am happy to hear that our district wants to address some of these issues.

2642
03:55:27,050 --> 03:55:30,790
We're going to start screening for dyslexia and K through one that sounds promising.

2643
03:55:30,790 --> 03:55:43,570
So, we'll have to follow up and see what happens because we really need actionable change to occur and we need to be honest about the problems in order to fix them.

2644
03:55:49,070 --> 03:55:54,350
Thank you, I just have a couple things, so Cindy, congratulations on your graduate.

2645
03:55:55,270 --> 03:55:58,970
I also have a very belated congrats to Matt McDaniel.

2646
03:55:58,970 --> 03:56:00,610
did he leave such

2647
03:56:03,140 --> 03:56:08,220
a bummer? So Matt recently received an advanced degree in his

2648
03:56:08,220 --> 03:56:13,180
education specialist degree from University of Michigan, so shout out to Matt

2649
03:56:13,180 --> 03:56:17,800
maybe he can watch this on the recording. So I just wanted to mention that I'm

2650
03:56:17,800 --> 03:56:23,540
very much looking forward to summer break and I'm looking forward to letting our

2651
03:56:23,540 --> 03:56:27,080
hardworking cabinet team hopefully have some summons of a break, whatever that

2652
03:56:27,080 --> 03:56:33,160
looks like the summer. We have a lot to do next year as a board and as a district and

2653
03:56:33,160 --> 03:56:40,400
a community. So some of the things that I am most looking forward to next year, naming

2654
03:56:40,400 --> 03:56:48,220
of a DEI program administrator, an exploration of an innovative or innovative options or the

2655
03:56:48,220 --> 03:56:53,740
future of our university drive building and property. I'm also excited about some of the

2656
03:56:53,740 --> 03:56:55,580
new opportunities that we have for students.

2657
03:56:56,360 --> 03:56:59,520
We have a really great dual enrollment opportunity

2658
03:56:59,520 --> 03:57:04,020
for advanced language learners, the CTE opportunities,

2659
03:57:04,360 --> 03:57:08,340
robotics, anatomy, some of the musical opportunities.

2660
03:57:08,680 --> 03:57:10,780
As you know, we purchased the purchase

2661
03:57:10,780 --> 03:57:12,020
of additional instruments.

2662
03:57:12,940 --> 03:57:15,620
And I'm really looking forward to the strategic plan coming

2663
03:57:15,620 --> 03:57:17,580
together, and I want to thank the committee that

2664
03:57:17,580 --> 03:57:19,340
met to review the RFPs.

2665
03:57:20,240 --> 03:57:23,400
I'm looking forward to hopefully seeing what the community's

2666
03:57:23,400 --> 03:57:28,660
appetite is for some of the things that I personally think are important for us to explore

2667
03:57:28,660 --> 03:57:33,820
and that I have a vision for, just a few of those would be a look at school start times

2668
03:57:33,820 --> 03:57:34,860
and school scheduling.

2669
03:57:37,100 --> 03:57:40,940
A look at some schedule innovations. I remember one of the last things

2670
03:57:40,940 --> 03:57:47,240
we talked about in 2020 was some innovative ways that schools look at block scheduling,

2671
03:57:47,240 --> 03:57:53,520
for example, and I would love to pick that back up and exploring an IB program.

2672
03:57:53,740 --> 03:57:57,080
Those are some of the things that are important to me.

2673
03:57:58,220 --> 03:58:02,220
I don't think we can get to that or really anything without a little mutual respect.

2674
03:58:03,340 --> 03:58:08,920
It's really disheartening to me tonight that we're at a point where we are interrogating

2675
03:58:10,440 --> 03:58:11,640
a member of cabinet.

2676
03:58:13,260 --> 03:58:15,460
And I just would like us to do better.

2677
03:58:15,920 --> 03:58:16,260
Thank you.

2678
03:58:16,260 --> 03:58:19,240
Thank you, Mrs. Anis.

2679
03:58:20,080 --> 03:58:21,140
Thank you, President Patel.

2680
03:58:23,720 --> 03:58:27,180
I have the honor and privilege along with my board colleagues,

2681
03:58:27,400 --> 03:58:34,620
Trustee Gupta, and also back to accept the graduating class of 2023 for race,

2682
03:58:34,980 --> 03:58:39,840
which for those of you that don't know, race stands for Rochester adult center for education.

2683
03:58:40,800 --> 03:58:45,300
And there were 13 total students in the program this year who graduated

2684
03:58:45,300 --> 03:58:47,760
with a high school diploma or GED.

2685
03:58:48,700 --> 03:58:56,480
It's especially impactful, I agree with Dr. Osbach, hearing the individual stories of race students because,

2686
03:58:57,080 --> 03:59:03,080
regardless of life's adversities and their unique paths, they persevered.

2687
03:59:04,020 --> 03:59:10,780
This success is also so clearly meaningful to all those in attendance who love them and support them.

2688
03:59:11,560 --> 03:59:13,160
And it was great to see that as well.

2689
03:59:13,160 --> 03:59:18,260
Well, I was honored to accept this graduating class on behalf of my board colleagues and

2690
03:59:19,390 --> 03:59:20,500
give that short speech.

2691
03:59:21,160 --> 03:59:22,980
And I congratulate these graduates.

2692
03:59:24,100 --> 03:59:31,480
And I appreciate trustee or bowl bringing up some of the things she'd like to focus on.

2693
03:59:32,320 --> 03:59:36,400
I agree that those are important to moving forward for our district.

2694
03:59:37,830 --> 03:59:40,600
And their student focus and that's where we should be.

2695
03:59:40,600 --> 03:59:42,860
and I appreciate her speaking to those items.

2696
03:59:43,740 --> 03:59:59,880
I also want to state that I appreciate the student who came forward and spoke this evening and the parent who spoke about the importance of having a partnership in our district with honor health and how crucial that is to her family.

2697
04:00:00,020 --> 04:00:19,220
And their wellness. And I believe it's true what they said. Not everyone's family is the same, not everyone has the same access. So, if our district can provide something extra in terms of mental health wellness, I proudly support that. And I hope everybody has a great summer.

2698
04:00:24,200 --> 04:00:30,900
Thank you. I just want to thank all of our staff for their dedication and inspiration during this past year.

2699
04:00:30,900 --> 04:00:35,040
I hope that those who have the summer off have a wonderful time.

2700
04:00:35,500 --> 04:00:41,040
Those that work year round, I hope you have a productive summer and an opportunity to recharge.

2701
04:00:41,820 --> 04:00:49,240
I also hope that our families have a safe and fun summer, and we look forward to having everyone back at the end of the summer.

2702
04:00:53,630 --> 04:00:56,310
I'm going to turn it over now to members of the administration.

2703
04:00:56,970 --> 04:01:02,370
Again, this allows members of the administration to share information that they believe is valuable to the board.

2704
04:01:02,370 --> 04:01:06,070
and or the community, and these are commons and not discussion items.

2705
04:01:06,670 --> 04:01:07,450
Mrs. Pregumini?

2706
04:01:07,970 --> 04:01:09,550
Thank you, President butal.

2707
04:01:10,070 --> 04:01:12,790
All those schools are beginning their summer recess.

2708
04:01:13,050 --> 04:01:15,690
We do continue to celebrate student achievement.

2709
04:01:16,310 --> 04:01:21,870
As the High School Athletic Association Spring Athletic Season comes to a close,

2710
04:01:22,270 --> 04:01:28,670
we're so very pleased to announce that some new state champions have come forward at Rochester High School.

2711
04:01:29,270 --> 04:01:30,470
Rochester Community Schools.

2712
04:01:30,470 --> 04:01:33,350
I'm sorry, I'm living in Rochester High School tonight.

2713
04:01:34,370 --> 04:01:38,850
Peter Raal, a golfer from Rochester, Adams High School,

2714
04:01:39,110 --> 04:01:45,550
earned the individual title in the 2023 Lower Peninsula Division I Boy's Golf Final.

2715
04:01:46,990 --> 04:01:48,430
Congratulations to Peter.

2716
04:01:49,370 --> 04:01:54,510
This weekend, this Twitter is blowing up on this one.

2717
04:01:55,050 --> 04:01:58,150
This week in the Stony Creek Schools Girl Sackertine,

2718
04:01:58,150 --> 04:02:02,230
one the MHSAA Division I state championships.

2719
04:02:02,650 --> 04:02:05,950
So congratulations to all of those athletes and

2720
04:02:05,950 --> 04:02:08,990
our team members and their families and coaches.

2721
04:02:09,570 --> 04:02:11,610
We're extremely proud of these students for

2722
04:02:11,610 --> 04:02:14,670
continuing the legacy of excellence within our district.

2723
04:02:15,490 --> 04:02:19,150
The athletes and their coaches, their families will be

2724
04:02:19,150 --> 04:02:21,830
formally recognized in an upcoming board meeting.

2725
04:02:22,650 --> 04:02:26,400
We also recognize the students and the staff and

2726
04:02:26,400 --> 04:02:34,120
school chaperones, who are currently expanding their global awareness by participating in an educational trip abroad.

2727
04:02:34,480 --> 04:02:42,500
One group with 40 students, including Todd Cal, is having a cultural experience in France.

2728
04:02:43,060 --> 04:02:47,280
And the second group will be exploring Italy, France, Morocco, and Spain this summer.

2729
04:02:48,080 --> 04:02:51,760
Finally, we honor the contributions of all the fathers and

2730
04:02:51,760 --> 04:02:53,540
other figures in our community.

2731
04:02:54,240 --> 04:02:57,040
We hope that the weekend was very, very special for you,

2732
04:02:58,060 --> 04:03:02,380
for the community that's watching the RCS Summer Music

2733
04:03:02,380 --> 04:03:02,920
Theater.

2734
04:03:03,420 --> 04:03:05,200
They're already on the stage.

2735
04:03:06,240 --> 04:03:10,220
This year, we're proud to announce the performance

2736
04:03:10,220 --> 04:03:11,420
of Mary Poppins.

2737
04:03:12,100 --> 04:03:16,400
The performances will be July 19th through July 23rd,

2738
04:03:16,800 --> 04:03:19,880
and tickets go on sale June 30th.

2739
04:03:19,880 --> 04:03:23,120
So we look forward to that wonderful presentation

2740
04:03:23,720 --> 04:03:26,820
and just a final comment because the first thing you hear

2741
04:03:26,820 --> 04:03:31,020
and the last thing you hear are always value added.

2742
04:03:31,760 --> 04:03:34,080
And so I'd like to say to Gracie

2743
04:03:34,080 --> 04:03:37,560
and to the students who have been blowing up my phone this night

2744
04:03:38,080 --> 04:03:40,400
that student voices do matter.

2745
04:03:40,940 --> 04:03:44,700
Being safe, respected, and valued does matter.

2746
04:03:45,000 --> 04:03:46,740
It's part of our compelling why.

2747
04:03:46,740 --> 04:03:54,220
And so I just would like to state that although I'm probably the furthest away from students, Mr. Weaver,

2748
04:03:55,740 --> 04:04:03,000
I disagree that there is an impact and a significant impact on celebrating student voice.

2749
04:04:03,460 --> 04:04:03,840
Thank you.

2750
04:04:07,050 --> 04:04:08,170
Mr. Murphy, did you have anything?

2751
04:04:08,670 --> 04:04:08,910
Okay.

2752
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All right, I have a couple of announcements.

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June 22nd is our strategic planning RFP presentations.

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And those will begin at 5 p.m., and then at 8 p.m., we have the Board of Education complaint hearing.

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Both of those will be in Rochester High School's Media Center.

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On July 25th, we'll have our Board of Education retreat at 5 p.m.

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at Oakland schools.

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And on July 31st, we'll have a Board of Education regular meeting at, well, this is at 7 p.m.

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But it'll now be at 6 p.m., at Hart Middle School.

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Is there any objection to adjourning the meeting at this time?

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Seeing none, we are adjourned at 11.16 PM.

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Thank you for coming tonight and have a good evening.