1 00:00:02,460 --> 00:00:07,250 foreign 2 00:00:07,260 --> 00:01:01,189 [Music] 3 00:01:01,199 --> 00:01:04,369 foreign 4 00:01:04,379 --> 00:01:24,680 [Music] 5 00:01:24,680 --> 00:01:25,830 thank you 6 00:01:25,830 --> 00:01:42,890 [Music] 7 00:01:42,900 --> 00:02:17,780 foreign 8 00:02:17,790 --> 00:02:25,270 [Music] 9 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:27,840 thank you 10 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:28,520 foreign 11 00:02:28,520 --> 00:03:06,589 [Music] 12 00:03:06,599 --> 00:03:22,080 foreign 13 00:03:22,090 --> 00:03:49,729 [Music] 14 00:03:49,739 --> 00:04:06,160 foreign 15 00:04:06,170 --> 00:04:27,479 [Music] 16 00:04:27,479 --> 00:04:28,810 foreign 17 00:04:28,810 --> 00:05:21,610 [Music] 18 00:05:21,620 --> 00:05:32,610 thank you thank you 19 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:54,650 [Music] 20 00:05:54,660 --> 00:06:36,890 foreign 21 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:38,220 [Music] 22 00:06:38,220 --> 00:06:58,320 foreign 23 00:06:58,330 --> 00:07:08,150 [Music] 24 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:20,980 foreign 25 00:07:20,990 --> 00:07:49,440 [Music] 26 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:51,500 foreign 27 00:07:51,500 --> 00:08:26,710 [Music] 28 00:08:26,720 --> 00:08:29,460 thank you 29 00:08:29,460 --> 00:08:47,430 foreign 30 00:08:47,440 --> 00:09:31,389 [Music] 31 00:09:31,399 --> 00:09:33,660 all right 32 00:09:33,660 --> 00:09:35,640 I like to call it supports Schenectady 33 00:09:35,640 --> 00:09:38,100 city council committee meeting for 34 00:09:38,100 --> 00:09:41,580 Monday June 20 June excuse me Tuesday 35 00:09:41,580 --> 00:09:44,940 June 20th 2023. 36 00:09:44,940 --> 00:09:48,829 um First Community is finance 37 00:09:48,839 --> 00:09:50,519 thank you I would like to call the 38 00:09:50,519 --> 00:09:52,560 finance committee to order the course 39 00:09:52,560 --> 00:09:54,440 item is authorization to enter 40 00:09:54,440 --> 00:10:01,310 agreements cares of New York 41 00:10:01,320 --> 00:10:02,720 so 42 00:10:02,720 --> 00:10:10,550 prong is going to take this 43 00:10:10,560 --> 00:10:12,839 afternoon 44 00:10:12,839 --> 00:10:16,519 as a part of the American Rescue plan at 45 00:10:16,519 --> 00:10:19,440 HUD has distributed home investment 46 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,660 funds to assist individuals and 47 00:10:21,660 --> 00:10:23,279 households who are homeless at risk 48 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:24,959 diplomacies and other vulnerable 49 00:10:24,959 --> 00:10:27,420 populations through the Schenectady home 50 00:10:27,420 --> 00:10:29,760 Consortium the city of Schenectady the 51 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:31,860 city of Troy the town of colony are 52 00:10:31,860 --> 00:10:35,100 allocated a 3.8 million dollars in 53 00:10:35,100 --> 00:10:36,200 funding 54 00:10:36,200 --> 00:10:38,700 we are asking for authorization to enter 55 00:10:38,700 --> 00:10:40,940 into agreement with cares of New York 56 00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:47,519 for and not not to exceed of 413 938 of 57 00:10:47,519 --> 00:10:51,120 Home art funds funding allocated to the 58 00:10:51,120 --> 00:10:54,480 Consortium through December 31st 2029 to 59 00:10:54,480 --> 00:10:56,040 administer the implementation of the 60 00:10:56,040 --> 00:10:58,970 homeowner application 61 00:10:58,980 --> 00:11:02,640 questions comments 62 00:11:02,640 --> 00:11:04,740 Cena and worship 63 00:11:04,740 --> 00:11:08,339 some a second but all if you ever hi 64 00:11:08,339 --> 00:11:11,160 thank you thank you thank you the next 65 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:12,560 item is 66 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:14,940 contract follow-up 67 00:11:14,940 --> 00:11:21,829 the Ferrari 68 00:11:21,839 --> 00:12:01,569 's out here 69 00:12:01,579 --> 00:12:10,150 oh okay great thank you 70 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,500 all the funding that we involved 71 00:12:13,500 --> 00:12:15,300 what we have here is an application of 72 00:12:15,300 --> 00:12:17,160 all the funding that we had so far from 73 00:12:17,160 --> 00:12:20,700 our book and including that I have some 74 00:12:20,700 --> 00:12:23,100 in color here and at the last page it 75 00:12:23,100 --> 00:12:25,440 shows when they would have named the 76 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:26,940 colors greens mean that we are 77 00:12:26,940 --> 00:12:29,279 contracted with these agencies 78 00:12:29,279 --> 00:12:32,820 colors uh the yellows show that we're 79 00:12:32,820 --> 00:12:34,920 about to contract with these agencies 80 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:38,220 and the one in blue are we have receipt 81 00:12:38,220 --> 00:12:39,660 they have received specs that we're 82 00:12:39,660 --> 00:12:41,579 going out to bid to see where they're 83 00:12:41,579 --> 00:12:43,740 where they are I've been in contact with 84 00:12:43,740 --> 00:12:46,380 a few of these arpa agencies I had a 85 00:12:46,380 --> 00:12:49,320 meeting specifically with the electric 86 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:52,380 uh Electric City Co-Op uh over the 87 00:12:52,380 --> 00:12:54,600 weekend to find out where they are where 88 00:12:54,600 --> 00:12:57,060 they're going we let them know that you 89 00:12:57,060 --> 00:12:59,459 know times of essence they have until 90 00:12:59,459 --> 00:13:03,899 September of 2022 to get the funds that 91 00:13:03,899 --> 00:13:06,300 they said that they're going to need to 92 00:13:06,300 --> 00:13:09,300 allocate 6.7 million dollars to get our 93 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:11,120 one million dollar contract 94 00:13:11,120 --> 00:13:13,279 they're 95 00:13:13,279 --> 00:13:15,779 a problem that they're having is uh 96 00:13:15,779 --> 00:13:18,959 they're looking to purchase of New York 97 00:13:18,959 --> 00:13:20,700 which is the school that bought so I 98 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,339 kind of put them in a tailspin and now 99 00:13:23,339 --> 00:13:26,519 so they're looking at other options 100 00:13:26,519 --> 00:13:29,519 uh one of the things that I mentioned is 101 00:13:29,519 --> 00:13:31,680 that they had other monies coming from 102 00:13:31,680 --> 00:13:33,060 the county whatever and they asked 103 00:13:33,060 --> 00:13:34,860 everybody says well you that all has to 104 00:13:34,860 --> 00:13:37,920 be in place before we do our contract 105 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,019 with you so I let them know that they're 106 00:13:40,019 --> 00:13:42,720 working on it and hopefully uh uh 107 00:13:42,720 --> 00:13:45,180 they're located in time uh I did have 108 00:13:45,180 --> 00:13:47,639 some Communications uh uh at third party 109 00:13:47,639 --> 00:13:50,240 Communications with the uh 110 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:55,019 aquatic group and the work that I ever 111 00:13:55,019 --> 00:13:57,000 had was that they're looking someplace 112 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,700 or rather than uh New York and I think 113 00:13:59,700 --> 00:14:02,279 that disqualifies it from our top our 114 00:14:02,279 --> 00:14:05,000 program it has not been has not been 115 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:07,860 completed yet uh so you know if they 116 00:14:07,860 --> 00:14:09,540 come to Schenectady or they still have 117 00:14:09,540 --> 00:14:11,160 to come up with their funding too and 118 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:17,760 that again that is uh by uh October August for them to get their 119 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:19,800 money we gain one year 120 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,360 uh we're following up 121 00:14:23,360 --> 00:14:26,519 here with the seat see we're very close 122 00:14:26,519 --> 00:14:29,579 with the seat for uh uh and the 123 00:14:29,579 --> 00:14:33,779 empowerment education for jobs and uh 124 00:14:33,779 --> 00:14:35,700 where I'm going on a lot of the 125 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:37,920 decisions projects with approval so 126 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,680 we're getting ready to bid for the golf 127 00:14:40,680 --> 00:14:42,839 irrigation uh I believe 128 00:14:42,839 --> 00:14:45,779 I'm looking at the work at steinman's 129 00:14:45,779 --> 00:14:47,459 Park and 130 00:14:47,459 --> 00:14:50,820 this is the last one and Jerry Burrell 131 00:14:50,820 --> 00:14:53,399 Park was getting ready to start one of 132 00:14:53,399 --> 00:14:54,600 the things we're going to have to ask is 133 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:56,519 the big questions when we start getting 134 00:14:56,519 --> 00:14:58,500 with our bids back for instance for the 135 00:14:58,500 --> 00:15:02,160 uh Miracle on Craig Street Harbor rehab 136 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:05,160 you know what have what do we do if it 137 00:15:05,160 --> 00:15:06,480 comes like a million dollars more than 138 00:15:06,480 --> 00:15:08,760 we allocated uh you know that's the 139 00:15:08,760 --> 00:15:10,320 question that we have to ask do we go 140 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:13,019 for more money how does that happen you 141 00:15:13,019 --> 00:15:14,760 know what what are the factors that 142 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,060 include that again those are some of the 143 00:15:18,060 --> 00:15:20,519 questions that they ask and uh the other 144 00:15:20,519 --> 00:15:22,500 question is what would they do if they 145 00:15:22,500 --> 00:15:27,240 need more time you know and of course my advice to them was you would have to 146 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:28,139 come to 147 00:15:28,139 --> 00:15:32,100 speak to him another uh 148 00:15:32,100 --> 00:15:35,820 a problem that was asked was about if 149 00:15:35,820 --> 00:15:40,990 they wanted to change their original 150 00:15:41,000 --> 00:15:44,760 application I said I didn't think you 151 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:46,500 could change it but again that's really 152 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:51,000 all up to the powers to be so uh if you 153 00:15:51,000 --> 00:15:54,230 have any other questions 154 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:56,820 question go ahead so some of these did 155 00:15:56,820 --> 00:15:59,100 not have to have any um there were no 156 00:15:59,100 --> 00:16:01,740 contingencies attached so 157 00:16:01,740 --> 00:16:03,480 um so I'm just kind of wondering why 158 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:05,699 what's like so the Enterprise seat you 159 00:16:05,699 --> 00:16:07,500 mentioned is going to be doing very soon 160 00:16:07,500 --> 00:16:10,079 they're getting ready to go but like the 161 00:16:10,079 --> 00:16:14,279 food delivery box like for 50 000 more 162 00:16:14,279 --> 00:16:16,500 so you don't think so right so for 163 00:16:16,500 --> 00:16:18,300 instance so one of the things I'm a 164 00:16:18,300 --> 00:16:20,060 communication with Proctors for the 165 00:16:20,060 --> 00:16:23,220 Proctors for their uh a reopening 166 00:16:23,220 --> 00:16:25,680 startup and you know I emailed them say 167 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:27,360 I know I know you're open so you must 168 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:29,339 have completed the work I go maybe you 169 00:16:29,339 --> 00:16:31,620 don't need the money now let us know so 170 00:16:31,620 --> 00:16:33,600 um you know it's you send emails out 171 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,279 they don't come back you know so we're 172 00:16:35,279 --> 00:16:36,720 kind of at a standstill of some of these 173 00:16:36,720 --> 00:16:37,620 things 174 00:16:37,620 --> 00:16:40,320 uh also too some some of these Waller 175 00:16:40,320 --> 00:16:42,240 organizations their their people have 176 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:46,019 changed and so you know I gotta try to 177 00:16:46,019 --> 00:16:48,180 find like who's in charge of it to 178 00:16:48,180 --> 00:16:49,860 actually send them or talk to them to 179 00:16:49,860 --> 00:16:53,459 see what we can move this out see ya 180 00:16:53,459 --> 00:16:55,920 understand go ahead please you're making 181 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:57,660 the direct contact I'm trying to make 182 00:16:57,660 --> 00:16:59,339 the direct contacts and I'm actually 183 00:16:59,339 --> 00:17:01,019 bringing them in there you know to be 184 00:17:01,019 --> 00:17:02,699 with me so I could see who they are and 185 00:17:02,699 --> 00:17:05,160 really go through it you know 186 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,500 good so I just want to go back to miss 187 00:17:07,500 --> 00:17:09,000 porterfield's question so you haven't 188 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:10,679 did you not get a response from the 189 00:17:10,679 --> 00:17:14,100 Green Market about yeah like uh I 190 00:17:14,100 --> 00:17:15,720 thought Haley bakar was the head of it 191 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:18,240 but she she's no longer the head of the 192 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,100 community so I'm trying to find who 193 00:17:20,100 --> 00:17:22,199 who's ahead of it and who's going to 194 00:17:22,199 --> 00:17:23,939 move this forward you might see Mary 195 00:17:23,939 --> 00:17:25,980 Jane shave I'm not sure which I don't 196 00:17:25,980 --> 00:17:28,020 have any information 197 00:17:28,020 --> 00:17:43,570 or area I'm not sure I don't know 198 00:17:43,580 --> 00:17:45,840 I don't have I don't have a connection 199 00:17:45,840 --> 00:17:48,179 with them either so anybody knows I'll 200 00:17:48,179 --> 00:17:49,559 send you something please I appreciate 201 00:17:49,559 --> 00:17:57,890 it yep 202 00:17:57,900 --> 00:17:59,700 it's safe to assume that any projects 203 00:17:59,700 --> 00:18:01,740 without any additional numbers or 204 00:18:01,740 --> 00:18:04,080 figures represent agencies that haven't 205 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,840 had communication with you correct 206 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:09,840 credit on that contracted right 207 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,240 and at the very far and right corner is 208 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:14,340 actually what we have spec and then 209 00:18:14,340 --> 00:18:23,390 totals at the bottoms 210 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,169 hmm 211 00:18:27,179 --> 00:18:29,520 yeah so so you gave us some indication 212 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:31,440 verbally of what who's going on contact 213 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:33,960 so um when we see this again in the 214 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:36,900 topics like the tennis Central Park 215 00:18:36,900 --> 00:18:39,120 tennis courts there's no activity on 216 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:40,260 that 217 00:18:40,260 --> 00:18:44,810 um 218 00:18:44,820 --> 00:18:47,520 yeah oh okay yeah the public ones yeah 219 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:49,919 they're kind of mixed in there 220 00:18:49,919 --> 00:18:52,440 I just wanted to give you the list but 221 00:18:52,440 --> 00:18:55,020 Chris can answer a lot of yourself about 222 00:18:55,020 --> 00:18:57,539 the pools the parks 223 00:18:57,539 --> 00:19:07,310 there you go Chris thank you 224 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,600 so the list that I'm handing out 225 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,679 that is the public part of the process 226 00:19:12,679 --> 00:19:15,660 that engineering is the lead on I'm 227 00:19:15,660 --> 00:19:17,580 working with Anthony on them however 228 00:19:17,580 --> 00:19:19,559 they are not 229 00:19:19,559 --> 00:19:21,000 talking about 230 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:24,480 so if you look we have was 21 million 231 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:26,840 yeah 232 00:19:26,840 --> 00:19:29,480 21.3 million dollars of article funds 233 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:34,070 committed to public projects 234 00:19:34,080 --> 00:19:35,940 parks 235 00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:37,860 so this is the status system so if you 236 00:19:37,860 --> 00:19:39,660 were to go down Jerry rail Park 237 00:19:39,660 --> 00:19:41,640 construction Central Park swimming pool 238 00:19:41,640 --> 00:19:43,799 under construction Builders Fairview 239 00:19:43,799 --> 00:19:46,140 Park is going to be under construction a 240 00:19:46,140 --> 00:19:48,600 diamond field lighting is awarded and 241 00:19:48,600 --> 00:19:50,340 going to be under construction the 242 00:19:50,340 --> 00:19:51,960 Central Park General improvements those 243 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:55,140 are on hold right now Central City Hall 244 00:19:55,140 --> 00:19:57,419 ventilation that we had a design kickoff 245 00:19:57,419 --> 00:19:59,700 meeting last month the Central Park 246 00:19:59,700 --> 00:20:01,799 Michigan I have tennis court we've met 247 00:20:01,799 --> 00:20:03,660 with cha Sports 248 00:20:03,660 --> 00:20:06,900 USTA and we have a plan of attack kind 249 00:20:06,900 --> 00:20:08,580 of wrote that there we're going to 250 00:20:08,580 --> 00:20:10,500 preserve ports one through five and ten 251 00:20:10,500 --> 00:20:13,320 to 14. that is being designed and we're 252 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:14,700 hoping to do that as soon as possible 253 00:20:14,700 --> 00:20:16,559 through a purchasing agreement Bill 254 00:20:16,559 --> 00:20:18,419 holder's part that's the pool that loses 255 00:20:18,419 --> 00:20:20,400 uh quite a bit of water we're going to 256 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,679 be doing some Mainline drain tests on 257 00:20:22,679 --> 00:20:25,320 that this week Riverside Park that's on 258 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,380 hold old North Berry Pump Station we 259 00:20:28,380 --> 00:20:29,700 have synthesis looking to put together 260 00:20:29,700 --> 00:20:32,100 some big specs and plans we got quotes 261 00:20:32,100 --> 00:20:33,720 to do the work it's within budget 262 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:35,820 whether it's outside of our purchasing 263 00:20:35,820 --> 00:20:37,860 policy so we need to bid that it's 264 00:20:37,860 --> 00:20:39,780 diamonds Park that one is on hold right 265 00:20:39,780 --> 00:20:42,780 now grout Park we're doing a survey Golf 266 00:20:42,780 --> 00:20:44,820 Course irrigation system is out to bid 267 00:20:44,820 --> 00:20:47,220 Michigan Ave field phase one retaining 268 00:20:47,220 --> 00:20:49,559 wall we awarded that last week and the 269 00:20:49,559 --> 00:20:51,720 Empowerment Center we have the roof 270 00:20:51,720 --> 00:20:54,539 replaced we have the deck removed we 271 00:20:54,539 --> 00:20:56,760 have a design firm pending to come on 272 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:59,640 and do the design and we have a track 273 00:20:59,640 --> 00:21:01,620 pending to do the environmental 274 00:21:01,620 --> 00:21:09,549 mediation 275 00:21:09,559 --> 00:21:13,490 yes any questions 276 00:21:13,500 --> 00:21:15,240 go ahead I just want to say good work 277 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:17,900 this is great thank you for the update 278 00:21:17,900 --> 00:21:20,520 yeah thank you both for detailing this 279 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,039 for us we're kind of guys along where we 280 00:21:23,039 --> 00:21:25,679 are thank you Lord thank you any other 281 00:21:25,679 --> 00:21:28,330 questions 282 00:21:28,340 --> 00:21:32,049 yeah 283 00:21:32,059 --> 00:21:35,880 uh just the on hold projects will 284 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:38,640 probably remain on hold until the end of 285 00:21:38,640 --> 00:21:40,740 the year just because we have so many 286 00:21:40,740 --> 00:21:43,679 that are in design and construction 287 00:21:43,679 --> 00:21:45,740 thoughts so 288 00:21:45,740 --> 00:21:48,480 we have a little bit of time I put the 289 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,940 arpa allocation right here in the middle 290 00:21:50,940 --> 00:21:52,679 of that sentence there that we must 291 00:21:52,679 --> 00:21:54,840 obligated by the 24th and spent by the 292 00:21:54,840 --> 00:21:57,360 26th so for those projects that are 293 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:58,980 right now overnight in any kind of 294 00:21:58,980 --> 00:22:00,600 Jeopardy 295 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:03,059 projects above we only have so much 296 00:22:03,059 --> 00:22:04,679 capacity in this sort of offer 297 00:22:04,679 --> 00:22:06,900 absolutely all right all right thank you 298 00:22:06,900 --> 00:22:09,000 very much thank you thank you 299 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:12,020 any other business of profinance 300 00:22:12,020 --> 00:22:15,120 all in favor all right thank you I'd 301 00:22:15,120 --> 00:22:16,200 like to call the order of the Public 302 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,780 Safety Committee we have one item on the 303 00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:20,520 agenda today that is discuss the 304 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:22,620 reducing City speed limit to 25 miles 305 00:22:22,620 --> 00:22:25,799 per hour by councilman Patrick thank you 306 00:22:25,799 --> 00:22:26,940 Mr Williams 307 00:22:26,940 --> 00:22:28,679 um I wanted to put this back on the 308 00:22:28,679 --> 00:22:30,659 agenda we talked about it 309 00:22:30,659 --> 00:22:33,059 um last September 310 00:22:33,059 --> 00:22:34,559 um and I wanted to bring It Forward 311 00:22:34,559 --> 00:22:37,320 again certainly we continue to hear the 312 00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:39,600 complaints from residents across the 313 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:42,539 city about the speeding issue I've asked 314 00:22:42,539 --> 00:22:45,900 mayor McCarthy if he and Mr beanjo give 315 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:49,140 us some some feedback about the speeding 316 00:22:49,140 --> 00:22:52,140 about this idea of reducing the speed 317 00:22:52,140 --> 00:22:55,390 limit 318 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,659 thank you council member thank you Mr 319 00:22:57,659 --> 00:23:03,730 chairman uh 320 00:23:03,740 --> 00:23:07,740 this is from some of the sensors had a 321 00:23:07,740 --> 00:23:11,700 lot of public discussion at Kings Road 322 00:23:11,700 --> 00:23:14,100 so uh 323 00:23:14,100 --> 00:23:16,320 piled 324 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,440 there's six sites there been afraid of 325 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:20,640 all of them 326 00:23:20,640 --> 00:23:25,909 people here in the Bible 327 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:28,740 so if you look at these sites along the 328 00:23:28,740 --> 00:23:32,159 road it's where the sensors are from 329 00:23:32,159 --> 00:23:38,330 that we can pull speed data show 330 00:23:38,340 --> 00:23:41,280 which I saw some vehicle counts 331 00:23:41,280 --> 00:23:45,000 so one of their terms of the amount of 332 00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:49,909 traffic that's going there and this 333 00:23:49,919 --> 00:23:53,400 is a number of factors and some of this 334 00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:56,460 detailed analysis before we now have it 335 00:23:56,460 --> 00:23:57,240 in 336 00:23:57,240 --> 00:24:00,299 with the project that Mr Wallen is 337 00:24:00,299 --> 00:24:01,620 leading for 338 00:24:01,620 --> 00:24:03,840 Bridge replacement 339 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:06,000 largely all these vehicles are going to 340 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:09,179 be diverted off Kings Road when puts 341 00:24:09,179 --> 00:24:11,100 intended day for us to shut that down 342 00:24:11,100 --> 00:24:12,780 Kings Road breaker won't open the 343 00:24:12,780 --> 00:24:14,520 shutter down December first 344 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,340 so right about their 345 00:24:17,340 --> 00:24:21,120 be some inconvenience for those 346 00:24:21,120 --> 00:24:23,580 individuals that use Kings Road now but 347 00:24:23,580 --> 00:24:25,860 it's the price should pay for Progress 348 00:24:25,860 --> 00:24:28,980 to get the bridge replaced but from this 349 00:24:28,980 --> 00:24:32,159 from each one of these sensors uh is 350 00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:37,200 compiled the actual speeds that are 351 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:41,940 there and this is the seven day 85th 352 00:24:41,940 --> 00:24:45,299 percentile speeds in these locations and 353 00:24:45,299 --> 00:24:46,740 these nodes are you connected to know 354 00:24:46,740 --> 00:24:49,080 there's 750 of them in the school 355 00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:52,020 throughout the city and I'm giving us 356 00:24:52,020 --> 00:24:54,500 various data such as 357 00:24:54,500 --> 00:24:58,080 speed power and pedestrian value they 358 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,419 don't involved do the same it's because 359 00:25:00,419 --> 00:25:02,880 of the mirror there 360 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,159 set in the position of them some of them 361 00:25:05,159 --> 00:25:08,940 wanted to uh able to give us certain 362 00:25:08,940 --> 00:25:11,460 things so they've looked at every single 363 00:25:11,460 --> 00:25:14,100 one and collect the data 364 00:25:14,100 --> 00:25:17,100 from all the items that are possible and 365 00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:20,460 can be accurate in terms of information 366 00:25:20,460 --> 00:25:23,159 so these are again so these are the 367 00:25:23,159 --> 00:25:26,279 seven day average 368 00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:29,460 certain type of speeds we're going to 369 00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:31,140 walk you through all the speeds and 370 00:25:31,140 --> 00:25:34,190 different locations 371 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,360 it's a lot of data we're going to go 372 00:25:36,360 --> 00:25:39,419 through it quickly because you're 373 00:25:39,419 --> 00:25:46,370 to be more than two there's so much 374 00:25:46,380 --> 00:25:50,539 again this is the breakdown of the uh 375 00:25:50,539 --> 00:25:52,919 actual speeds 376 00:25:52,919 --> 00:25:55,740 vehicles and this is a detailed 377 00:25:55,740 --> 00:25:58,260 information that we've never really had 378 00:25:58,260 --> 00:26:00,059 in the past so some of the deployment of 379 00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:02,159 the census that out there allow us to 380 00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:05,340 collect better data and to 381 00:26:05,340 --> 00:26:08,930 again hopefully do 382 00:26:08,940 --> 00:26:11,520 throughout the city and that the kids 383 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:14,940 see that far away so let me just tell 384 00:26:14,940 --> 00:26:16,260 you the first thing is going to bring 385 00:26:16,260 --> 00:26:18,840 the circle that's the location of where 386 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,059 this particular sensor is and that's the 387 00:26:21,059 --> 00:26:25,140 data inside so that I don't know so if 388 00:26:25,140 --> 00:26:29,640 you look at compliance there one side is 389 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,159 the number of vehicles in 390 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:35,159 across the bottom is also depending on 391 00:26:35,159 --> 00:26:37,620 the color of the graph or the speed so 392 00:26:37,620 --> 00:26:39,779 you have a large number of vehicles that 393 00:26:39,779 --> 00:26:42,840 are compliant with the posted speed 394 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,940 moving in with what would be an 395 00:26:44,940 --> 00:26:46,140 acceptable 396 00:26:46,140 --> 00:26:48,120 manner of driving up and down the road 397 00:26:48,120 --> 00:26:50,820 I'm going to go through real quickly and 398 00:26:50,820 --> 00:26:52,740 serve as much as and then do that to 399 00:26:52,740 --> 00:27:02,769 make sure 400 00:27:02,779 --> 00:27:11,390 the largest 401 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:15,299 to go to location two so that we were 402 00:27:15,299 --> 00:27:20,269 not going down 403 00:27:20,279 --> 00:27:21,840 Tuesday 404 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:39,169 Wednesday 405 00:27:39,179 --> 00:27:41,820 so location three we're going to now 406 00:27:41,820 --> 00:27:44,220 still at the top speed either Tuesday is 407 00:27:44,220 --> 00:27:47,039 25 to 30 miles an hour but mayor and I 408 00:27:47,039 --> 00:27:49,500 looked at this and Chris as well and one 409 00:27:49,500 --> 00:27:51,740 of the things we looked at um because 410 00:27:51,740 --> 00:27:55,679 the lower speeds are are the highest uh 411 00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:58,020 numbers it's really hard to see if 412 00:27:58,020 --> 00:28:01,080 you're speeding so later on toward the 413 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,700 end you're going to see just as few 414 00:28:02,700 --> 00:28:25,310 years now okay 415 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:27,659 this information allows us to be 416 00:28:27,659 --> 00:28:30,539 proactive to give the police department 417 00:28:30,539 --> 00:28:32,820 the information to know when the best 418 00:28:32,820 --> 00:28:33,480 time 419 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,340 that's time left to go out 420 00:28:35,340 --> 00:28:38,700 of course now we're on location five so 421 00:28:38,700 --> 00:28:41,640 we're further down now we're looking at 422 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:43,380 a little higher speed because that's a 423 00:28:43,380 --> 00:28:45,320 little more street so when my homepage 424 00:28:45,320 --> 00:28:55,370 away from the river session 425 00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:57,779 this is the last one and this is right 426 00:28:57,779 --> 00:29:00,059 over the bridge now you see it at the 427 00:29:00,059 --> 00:29:02,220 top speeds during the third time the top 428 00:29:02,220 --> 00:29:04,679 speed but the 429 00:29:04,679 --> 00:29:08,520 those and their students 30 to 35 miles 430 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:16,430 an hour 431 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:17,820 and Sunday 432 00:29:17,820 --> 00:29:20,480 and now we're going to switch to just 433 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:29,330 the vehicle speed over 30 miles an hour 434 00:29:29,340 --> 00:29:30,899 to show you this one but back to 435 00:29:30,899 --> 00:29:33,559 location one this is Monday 436 00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,960 you're looking at a speed of 30 to 35 437 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:39,419 miles an hour meaning we know what we're 438 00:29:39,419 --> 00:29:41,820 speeding at this time at that location 439 00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:48,230 on 440 00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:52,020 obviously the numbers were a lot lower 441 00:29:52,020 --> 00:30:03,710 there's so so much compliment 442 00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:15,049 location two 443 00:30:15,059 --> 00:30:16,880 location three 444 00:30:16,880 --> 00:30:27,230 by the time 445 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,700 so so that you know we're 30 to 35 is 446 00:30:29,700 --> 00:30:31,980 out there in most of these they're 30s 447 00:30:31,980 --> 00:30:34,740 legal so they could equal in 30. and we 448 00:30:34,740 --> 00:30:37,200 don't have a split that much that would 449 00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:49,210 be so hard to regret 450 00:30:49,220 --> 00:30:54,490 you should 451 00:30:54,500 --> 00:31:01,909 sustainable yeah 452 00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:10,070 with us 453 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,440 we're at location seven on a Monday it's 454 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:17,220 a couple of uh 45 to 50s way down looks 455 00:31:17,220 --> 00:31:23,269 like there might be two of them 456 00:31:23,279 --> 00:31:26,460 40 45 so a little higher if you look at 457 00:31:26,460 --> 00:31:29,820 3 P.M on Tuesday it's a much larger 458 00:31:29,820 --> 00:31:32,220 number of people that are driving 459 00:31:32,220 --> 00:31:40,549 towards the 45 460 00:31:40,559 --> 00:31:42,779 and look at this around about four to 461 00:31:42,779 --> 00:31:59,029 six pm at the time here 462 00:31:59,039 --> 00:32:01,679 so it shows the detailed analysis that 463 00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:05,419 can be done it enables better 464 00:32:05,419 --> 00:32:09,779 enforcement in what recommendation to 465 00:32:09,779 --> 00:32:13,320 try and use we've collected the data now 466 00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:16,320 post this section of 467 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,000 Kings Road with a 25 mile an hour speed 468 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,399 collect the data over again a similar 469 00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:25,980 period to see if we get element 470 00:32:25,980 --> 00:32:29,460 Appliance and again this 471 00:32:29,460 --> 00:32:31,620 is done after there's been a fairly 472 00:32:31,620 --> 00:32:35,399 aggressive enforcement component this 473 00:32:35,399 --> 00:32:40,679 take this as an experiment hosted five miles 474 00:32:40,679 --> 00:32:45,350 to see what the actual shift is and then 475 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:48,000 beginning throughout the city at an 476 00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:49,080 appropriate 477 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:53,029 applicable basis 478 00:32:53,039 --> 00:32:55,140 data to be able to see if what we're 479 00:32:55,140 --> 00:32:57,840 doing is very thin and if it is making a 480 00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:06,610 difference 481 00:33:06,620 --> 00:33:10,140 so I have a question so this is like a 482 00:33:10,140 --> 00:33:12,539 very like limited time frame that you 483 00:33:12,539 --> 00:33:14,100 collect with state it has is there a 484 00:33:14,100 --> 00:33:15,299 longer time Trend that you've been 485 00:33:15,299 --> 00:33:17,159 selecting in 486 00:33:17,159 --> 00:33:21,539 right so these nodes were in place 487 00:33:21,539 --> 00:33:25,140 for a while yeah yeah so so I was 488 00:33:25,140 --> 00:33:27,000 wondering if the data was collected like 489 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,340 for months before that or is it just for 490 00:33:29,340 --> 00:33:32,640 that week because as the mayor said that 491 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,279 um this is based after there's been some 492 00:33:35,279 --> 00:33:37,679 like a lot of information about it you 493 00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:38,940 know a lot of talk about it's been on 494 00:33:38,940 --> 00:33:41,100 the news people have come down so I was 495 00:33:41,100 --> 00:33:42,179 wondering if there was something to 496 00:33:42,179 --> 00:33:43,980 compare to before all that enforcement 497 00:33:43,980 --> 00:33:46,970 happened 498 00:33:46,980 --> 00:33:49,440 yeah I mean it's possible to go back and 499 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,360 look at that sure 500 00:33:51,360 --> 00:33:53,159 well I think that's important to have 501 00:33:53,159 --> 00:33:56,149 that comparison 502 00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:57,480 okay 503 00:33:57,480 --> 00:34:00,600 so I kind of more to your point of 504 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,100 President Porterfield that was awesome 505 00:34:02,100 --> 00:34:03,720 because I know that there's also was um 506 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:06,000 I'm not exactly sure what you call it 507 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,099 there the sign that lets people know oh 508 00:34:08,099 --> 00:34:10,679 you know this is the speed this is the 509 00:34:10,679 --> 00:34:13,200 speed that you're traveling 510 00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,899 um I know that that uh that tractor 511 00:34:15,899 --> 00:34:17,399 mechanism has been there for some while 512 00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:19,919 so I was just well I guess my question 513 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:22,139 is similar to that could we look at some 514 00:34:22,139 --> 00:34:25,139 data before that it was put in place 515 00:34:25,139 --> 00:34:28,399 and then look at you know the data after 516 00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:31,139 that uh specific intervention was 517 00:34:31,139 --> 00:34:33,359 implemented to kind of see how effective 518 00:34:33,359 --> 00:34:35,460 that is so are we going to go in the 519 00:34:35,460 --> 00:34:38,399 right direction now reduction of speed 520 00:34:38,399 --> 00:34:41,580 limit or is it just you know enough to 521 00:34:41,580 --> 00:34:43,919 have that type of 522 00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,440 that intervention that's in place well 523 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,020 it can be pulled back to whatever period 524 00:34:49,020 --> 00:34:51,599 of time you want 525 00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:54,419 that we're actually activated done for 526 00:34:54,419 --> 00:34:57,000 reference here one week 527 00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:01,440 time frame so it gives a I'll call a 528 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,560 workable Baseline 529 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:07,980 this level of data is not generally been 530 00:35:07,980 --> 00:35:10,500 available so that 531 00:35:10,500 --> 00:35:14,450 type of being a little 532 00:35:14,460 --> 00:35:16,640 analytic Rock clear and 533 00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,440 consistent results from it so it's Again 534 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,980 part of it is we're learning 535 00:35:22,980 --> 00:35:25,020 sensors and 536 00:35:25,020 --> 00:35:27,540 information in a better way to 537 00:35:27,540 --> 00:35:31,550 use case manage 538 00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:34,619 management I guess if I could 539 00:35:34,619 --> 00:35:36,240 we certainly can provide that 540 00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:37,980 information I'm not sure what we would 541 00:35:37,980 --> 00:35:39,720 be looking for in front of it because we 542 00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:42,000 are seeing that vehicles are speeding 543 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,820 you know especially to everybody rotted 544 00:35:44,820 --> 00:36:00,230 in in so I mean 545 00:36:00,240 --> 00:36:05,810 [Music] 546 00:36:05,820 --> 00:36:07,619 show you 547 00:36:07,619 --> 00:36:10,880 that you know 548 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:13,099 [Music] 549 00:36:13,099 --> 00:36:18,359 so so yes the question I was asking was 550 00:36:18,359 --> 00:36:20,220 more around the specific interventions 551 00:36:20,220 --> 00:36:21,960 that are that have been implemented thus 552 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,839 far in other words if we now have this 553 00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:26,640 mechanism that's letting people know 554 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:28,619 this is the speed limit this is the 555 00:36:28,619 --> 00:36:30,119 speed limit that you're driving in like 556 00:36:30,119 --> 00:36:31,800 I know that that hasn't been out there 557 00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,630 yet 558 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,140 that's been out there at Kings Road 559 00:36:37,140 --> 00:36:38,760 there for some time right so we're 560 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:41,460 coming over the bridge is actually a 561 00:36:41,460 --> 00:36:44,040 sign of that same experience before the 562 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,680 status yeah right so what I'm saying 563 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:49,079 about so my question and um and 564 00:36:49,079 --> 00:36:51,599 hopefully now or kind of along the same 565 00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:54,000 train of thought is that 566 00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:57,839 this data if we can look at the data pre 567 00:36:57,839 --> 00:36:59,579 uh whatever interventions that we've 568 00:36:59,579 --> 00:37:01,800 implemented and then post and that would 569 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,359 design so the question really isn't 570 00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:06,000 about just some clerical question my 571 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,460 question isn't really about is speeding 572 00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:10,380 because of clearly to the point that 573 00:37:10,380 --> 00:37:12,480 there's some speeding happening my 574 00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:14,460 question is about the effectiveness of 575 00:37:14,460 --> 00:37:16,680 you know what interventions that we're 576 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:18,480 using I'm just saying this seems like a 577 00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:19,800 really good tool to be able to do that 578 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:21,720 because we do that yeah you can do this 579 00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:24,619 three different periods right 580 00:37:24,619 --> 00:37:26,880 two months 581 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:28,920 hearing them I still want to be in the 582 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,200 spring 583 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:32,760 period because of the weather and then 584 00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:36,839 we can compare that to this to after we 585 00:37:36,839 --> 00:37:39,119 change 586 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:40,920 so in order to do that we don't need the 587 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:42,540 data from before because what we're 588 00:37:42,540 --> 00:37:44,820 looking to do is look at two different 589 00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:46,980 interventions we have this one this is 590 00:37:46,980 --> 00:37:49,740 the Baseline if we do the 25 mile an 591 00:37:49,740 --> 00:37:52,320 hour one we do a one week period Then 592 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:53,520 pair 593 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,980 I mean which intervention works we don't 594 00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:57,300 really 595 00:37:57,300 --> 00:38:01,680 4 in order to decide which intervention to do 596 00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:03,900 see if there's any difference so you 597 00:38:03,900 --> 00:38:05,280 could see if there's a statistically 598 00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,560 different significant difference between 599 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:10,200 the two interventions in order to decide 600 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,359 you don't need the data before that in 601 00:38:12,359 --> 00:38:15,440 order to make that decision 602 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,300 could I just um for clarification do you 603 00:38:18,300 --> 00:38:19,440 mean when you say the two different 604 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,020 interventions so one would be the neon 605 00:38:22,020 --> 00:38:23,540 sign that is 606 00:38:23,540 --> 00:38:26,660 enforcement versus the reduced speed 607 00:38:26,660 --> 00:38:31,560 right so sort of again put up right what 608 00:38:31,560 --> 00:38:33,540 I'm saying is that we could look at the 609 00:38:33,540 --> 00:38:35,700 specific interventions so in order to 610 00:38:35,700 --> 00:38:37,320 look at the effectiveness of a specific 611 00:38:37,320 --> 00:38:39,300 intervention we need to get data um 612 00:38:39,300 --> 00:38:40,920 pre-intervention and post intervention 613 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:42,780 so whether that's 614 00:38:42,780 --> 00:38:46,859 well actually you do if you're if you 615 00:38:46,859 --> 00:38:48,540 have a tool and you're implementing a 616 00:38:48,540 --> 00:38:49,500 tool 617 00:38:49,500 --> 00:38:52,320 and then you look at the data what has 618 00:38:52,320 --> 00:38:54,420 this tool house this changed Behavior 619 00:38:54,420 --> 00:38:56,940 well if this tool is saying now that 620 00:38:56,940 --> 00:38:58,560 people are speeding you implemented this 621 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,839 intervention now we are looking at 622 00:39:00,839 --> 00:39:02,460 reduction in speed and we can say okay 623 00:39:02,460 --> 00:39:04,020 well there's something to be said about 624 00:39:04,020 --> 00:39:06,119 the effectiveness of set intervention if 625 00:39:06,119 --> 00:39:08,040 we don't look at the data before we 626 00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:13,140 implemented the tool but we don't have a good Baseline to be able to narrow 627 00:39:13,140 --> 00:39:15,060 down where what intervention in 628 00:39:15,060 --> 00:39:18,020 particularly was effective and which was 629 00:39:18,020 --> 00:39:21,780 actually you do it's called an anova or 630 00:39:21,780 --> 00:39:24,839 a t-test you can compare two columns to 631 00:39:24,839 --> 00:39:26,040 see if there's a statistically 632 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:28,260 significant difference in order to see 633 00:39:28,260 --> 00:39:31,680 which intervention is the better of the 634 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,240 two you don't really need that other 635 00:39:33,240 --> 00:39:37,190 data 636 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:40,920 so um as I said to me I really want to 637 00:39:40,920 --> 00:39:43,320 see the data prior to any interventions 638 00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:47,640 before we um so we have that to to see 639 00:39:47,640 --> 00:39:49,740 if how the intervention works the 640 00:39:49,740 --> 00:39:51,420 clothes clearly through the speeding 641 00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:52,380 problem it's been brought to Our 642 00:39:52,380 --> 00:39:55,680 intention this is after the police thing 643 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:57,420 was put up there or the neighbor started 644 00:39:57,420 --> 00:39:59,220 complaining and I understand that there 645 00:39:59,220 --> 00:40:00,660 was some business by the police so I 646 00:40:00,660 --> 00:40:02,760 would like to at least see and as you 647 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:05,220 said um when the spring began Mr fuccio 648 00:40:05,220 --> 00:40:07,380 what the speeding was like I'd like to 649 00:40:07,380 --> 00:40:09,000 see that be able to see that data as 650 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:13,670 well 651 00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,220 even those questions or concerns 652 00:40:16,220 --> 00:40:18,540 I had a question specifically definitely 653 00:40:18,540 --> 00:40:20,280 I appreciate the word that's been done 654 00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,859 so far and for any individuals watching 655 00:40:22,859 --> 00:40:24,780 from the Kings Road neighborhood I'm 656 00:40:24,780 --> 00:40:26,339 glad that these steps are being 657 00:40:26,339 --> 00:40:29,040 considered at their present time but 658 00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:30,720 with respect to other areas of the city 659 00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:32,880 haven't been any discussions as the 660 00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:34,440 additional neighborhoods that we can 661 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:35,940 consider also because I would hate the 662 00:40:35,940 --> 00:40:37,920 center presidents of in order to get 663 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,780 your area in the community identified to 664 00:40:39,780 --> 00:40:41,099 be coming to City Hall so I'd like to 665 00:40:41,099 --> 00:40:44,160 show a collective approach as to here 666 00:40:44,160 --> 00:40:45,599 are other areas where we're going to be 667 00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:51,050 identifying to have similar 668 00:40:51,060 --> 00:40:53,099 can we have information that's being 669 00:40:53,099 --> 00:40:55,020 collected throughout the city gen 670 00:40:55,020 --> 00:40:57,300 reference and 671 00:40:57,300 --> 00:41:01,130 it's a number this will also 672 00:41:01,140 --> 00:41:03,680 create some 673 00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:06,440 unique performances because 674 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:09,839 we've had the generally 675 00:41:09,839 --> 00:41:12,359 an open Period get some enforcement and 676 00:41:12,359 --> 00:41:14,700 then when the bridge closes this is all 677 00:41:14,700 --> 00:41:17,339 going to drop to very low numbers so 678 00:41:17,339 --> 00:41:20,880 it'll cover all the bases 679 00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:24,180 yes this thought was a good 680 00:41:24,180 --> 00:41:27,240 section of Road uh traffic concert 681 00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,599 fairly High there again more as a 682 00:41:30,599 --> 00:41:33,000 demonstration projects were 683 00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,400 close to speed 684 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:39,480 anytime you change vehicle uh 685 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,359 criteria like that it's usually creative 686 00:41:42,359 --> 00:41:44,339 soft enforcement so you have to educate 687 00:41:44,339 --> 00:41:46,910 people 688 00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:48,000 addition and 689 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,720 to getting close to the higher speed we 690 00:41:51,720 --> 00:41:54,180 drop it down do some measurements and 691 00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:56,160 see if in fact 692 00:41:56,160 --> 00:42:00,480 we're getting the results that we want 693 00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,520 what are the best ways to 694 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,380 get in compliance with additional 695 00:42:07,380 --> 00:42:11,220 signage is it some modification where we 696 00:42:11,220 --> 00:42:12,839 put up the red lights for the flashings 697 00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:15,839 and some different options there better 698 00:42:15,839 --> 00:42:19,920 delineation of the streets or on the 699 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,900 street surface but 700 00:42:21,900 --> 00:42:23,700 appropriate Lanes 701 00:42:23,700 --> 00:42:27,589 some instances 702 00:42:27,599 --> 00:42:30,599 turning or swinging wide we're looking 703 00:42:30,599 --> 00:42:33,000 to looking where we are going to rebuild 704 00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,320 the section of Brandywine from the state 705 00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:39,720 going to 890 and that is a very high 706 00:42:39,720 --> 00:42:44,569 incidence 707 00:42:44,579 --> 00:42:47,880 Auto pedestrian so that after that and 708 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,099 that's taken a long time to actually put 709 00:42:50,099 --> 00:42:50,960 together 710 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,400 we're going to see some positive numbers 711 00:42:53,400 --> 00:42:54,780 coming up 712 00:42:54,780 --> 00:42:57,180 coming out so this also stopped short of 713 00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:58,319 putting up 714 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:01,440 uh stop signs so let's see if we can get 715 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,880 it if we put up stop signs 716 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:08,579 generally what will occur is the 717 00:43:08,579 --> 00:43:12,440 of auto accidents is going to increase 718 00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,960 people who are used to stop selling this 719 00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:17,280 feeding you're going through their teeth 720 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:18,720 really getting cars that are going to 721 00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:23,750 run into each other and 722 00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:25,800 environmental things to keep the 723 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:29,359 vehicles moving and is the best 724 00:43:29,359 --> 00:43:32,760 efficient way to handle it it's again to 725 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:36,300 get the drivers to be compliant with one 726 00:43:36,300 --> 00:43:37,920 speed is 727 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,200 and so that they're not creating hazards 728 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:42,660 for themselves pedestrians or irritation 729 00:43:42,660 --> 00:43:44,460 to the neighbors 730 00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:49,910 Jason the two Kings Road 731 00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:52,140 um definitely with a respect to a lot of 732 00:43:52,140 --> 00:43:53,520 individuals who've been affected by this 733 00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,079 for a long period of time I know we've 734 00:43:55,079 --> 00:43:56,940 talked about it a lot we're definitely 735 00:43:56,940 --> 00:43:58,319 talking about action and implementing 736 00:43:58,319 --> 00:43:59,819 something is a very important 737 00:43:59,819 --> 00:44:01,980 differentiation we have to make so for 738 00:44:01,980 --> 00:44:04,319 clarification are we looking at lowering 739 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:05,940 the speed limit throughout the 740 00:44:05,940 --> 00:44:08,220 individual locations that had higher 741 00:44:08,220 --> 00:44:10,920 speeding or are we looking to limit or 742 00:44:10,920 --> 00:44:13,440 lower the speed limit to all of these 743 00:44:13,440 --> 00:44:18,960 locations one through seven 744 00:44:18,970 --> 00:44:29,050 [Music] 745 00:44:29,060 --> 00:44:31,200 identifying some additional areas you 746 00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,300 said you would be able to comply with 747 00:44:33,300 --> 00:44:35,400 listing 748 00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:40,990 sure 749 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:44,339 just a question so nothing happens this 750 00:44:44,339 --> 00:44:46,260 evening Jack comes back in two weeks 751 00:44:46,260 --> 00:44:48,540 with data that really isn't important so 752 00:44:48,540 --> 00:44:50,780 it's another two 753 00:44:50,780 --> 00:44:52,859 I'm sorry can you repeat that you said 754 00:44:52,859 --> 00:44:54,359 that data that was not really important 755 00:44:54,359 --> 00:44:58,339 right the data that shows maybe from 756 00:44:58,339 --> 00:45:01,380 March to 757 00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:06,359 April and this is in May data that is 758 00:45:06,359 --> 00:45:08,640 not a baseline this is our Baseline for 759 00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:10,680 what what's happened what's happening 760 00:45:10,680 --> 00:45:12,960 now so 761 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,359 all we want to do or all that should be 762 00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:17,940 done is implement the 25 mile an hour 763 00:45:17,940 --> 00:45:20,339 speed limit to see what the new data is 764 00:45:20,339 --> 00:45:22,920 to see if that's making a difference I 765 00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,450 mean it's kind of just simple 766 00:45:26,460 --> 00:45:29,099 so I think um 767 00:45:29,099 --> 00:45:30,720 two things can be true and I think that 768 00:45:30,720 --> 00:45:34,140 you're you're might be an investing 769 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:36,359 responsible my inquiry was what I was 770 00:45:36,359 --> 00:45:39,060 saying to what I was saying is that this 771 00:45:39,060 --> 00:45:40,980 tool seems to be a way to measure the 772 00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:43,980 effectiveness of any given intervention 773 00:45:43,980 --> 00:45:46,920 in order to know whether intervention is 774 00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:48,380 effective or not 775 00:45:48,380 --> 00:45:50,579 so in order to know that if the 776 00:45:50,579 --> 00:45:52,260 intervention is effective or not you 777 00:45:52,260 --> 00:45:54,540 have to have data previous to the 778 00:45:54,540 --> 00:45:57,599 intervention then then post the 779 00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,880 intervention then we could say oh this 780 00:45:59,880 --> 00:46:04,560 works so my question was in my statement 781 00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,300 was this looks like a good tool in order 782 00:46:06,300 --> 00:46:08,220 to do that for a very specific 783 00:46:08,220 --> 00:46:09,900 intervention so that's how we can tell 784 00:46:09,900 --> 00:46:11,400 the effectiveness is something you can't 785 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:13,260 measure the effectiveness of something 786 00:46:13,260 --> 00:46:15,480 if you don't know what the state of it 787 00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:18,240 previous the intervention and then post 788 00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:20,339 information that's the only performance 789 00:46:20,339 --> 00:46:22,020 making so that's why that information 790 00:46:22,020 --> 00:46:24,780 will be valuable to me 791 00:46:24,780 --> 00:46:26,940 and what we had talked about the last 792 00:46:26,940 --> 00:46:28,079 time we talked about it is like 793 00:46:28,079 --> 00:46:30,420 identifying areas throughout the city 794 00:46:30,420 --> 00:46:33,720 not just a specific one which is what Mr 795 00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:36,060 Blue Joe has just asked for so that when 796 00:46:36,060 --> 00:46:38,819 we implement this those roads that as I 797 00:46:38,819 --> 00:46:40,200 said you said there's some roads that we 798 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:43,990 could not reduce it okay 799 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:47,420 there's 750 of these numbers 800 00:46:47,420 --> 00:46:50,520 you know we all have the ability like 801 00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:54,240 Keith Rose does not have a lot of cyber 802 00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:56,220 traffic ready coming out of them they 803 00:46:56,220 --> 00:46:57,720 have a couple of key points that they 804 00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:00,660 found basically their lower mind so the 805 00:47:00,660 --> 00:47:03,900 traffic on the main as the opportunity 806 00:47:03,900 --> 00:47:06,060 traffic signals there or anything so 807 00:47:06,060 --> 00:47:08,119 they have the ability to flow 808 00:47:08,119 --> 00:47:11,040 effectively so that's one of the reasons 809 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,619 why we're looking at this street 810 00:47:13,619 --> 00:47:15,839 for a hook type because it made sense 811 00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:18,240 because of the numbers we had it 812 00:47:18,240 --> 00:47:21,540 available to count the traffic I guess I 813 00:47:21,540 --> 00:47:24,119 thought we were looking at it is if we 814 00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:26,760 test this body reducing the speed limit 815 00:47:26,760 --> 00:47:29,880 to 25 miles an hour and it does make a 816 00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:32,579 difference then it makes sense to expand 817 00:47:32,579 --> 00:47:35,040 it in other areas but if we Institute 818 00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,700 this 25 or around an hour at least 819 00:47:38,700 --> 00:47:41,700 in the average speeds that we're moving 820 00:47:41,700 --> 00:47:46,740 at then I'm not sure in my mind that makes sense to change it because 821 00:47:46,740 --> 00:47:49,140 it's not really the difference 822 00:47:49,140 --> 00:47:51,470 okay 823 00:47:51,480 --> 00:47:53,579 I understand what you think because I 824 00:47:53,579 --> 00:47:54,900 know that wasn't our initial discussion 825 00:47:54,900 --> 00:47:56,760 several months ago it was talking about 826 00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,579 looking throughout the city is what our 827 00:47:59,579 --> 00:48:01,560 initial discussion was about agree with 828 00:48:01,560 --> 00:48:03,420 you I don't know if Christian will talk 829 00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:07,680 about that what was the sort of study 830 00:48:07,680 --> 00:48:10,800 that was required that was something 831 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:12,060 that 832 00:48:12,060 --> 00:48:24,829 and 833 00:48:24,839 --> 00:48:28,560 thank you so the cdtc the dot and 834 00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:30,720 several municipalities uh got together 835 00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,260 to do studies on these the biggest I 836 00:48:34,260 --> 00:48:37,319 would say outcome of that was that the 837 00:48:37,319 --> 00:48:39,839 D.O.T from their perspective they said 838 00:48:39,839 --> 00:48:41,819 that they will allow local 839 00:48:41,819 --> 00:48:46,020 municipalities to do this on local roads 840 00:48:46,020 --> 00:48:48,240 however they will need a detailed study 841 00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,339 for anything that is not considered a 842 00:48:50,339 --> 00:48:53,460 local Road and what that opened up for 843 00:48:53,460 --> 00:48:56,220 us would be the idea that we would need 844 00:48:56,220 --> 00:48:59,040 a detailed study to change the speed 845 00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:01,500 limit to 25 on groups such as State 846 00:49:01,500 --> 00:49:03,240 Street Union Street Erie Boulevard 847 00:49:03,240 --> 00:49:05,760 Albany Street those roads that are 848 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,680 classified as something other than the 849 00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:10,319 local and the challenge that that makes 850 00:49:10,319 --> 00:49:14,400 is that then you have a network of main 851 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,859 roads where the speed limit is 30 and 852 00:49:16,859 --> 00:49:20,040 then dozens upon dozens of local roads 853 00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:21,359 off of that where the speed limit is 854 00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:23,579 different meaning that we need to sign 855 00:49:23,579 --> 00:49:25,440 every one of those roads 856 00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,060 so that you know that you're entering a 857 00:49:27,060 --> 00:49:28,740 road that is a different speed than the 858 00:49:28,740 --> 00:49:31,619 one we're just on New York City is 859 00:49:31,619 --> 00:49:34,140 experimenting with a sign when you come 860 00:49:34,140 --> 00:49:38,339 in that says speed limit 25 unless 861 00:49:38,339 --> 00:49:41,400 otherwise noted so then we would put 862 00:49:41,400 --> 00:49:43,440 signs only on the main routes that might 863 00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,780 save us however I don't know how 864 00:49:45,780 --> 00:49:47,700 enforceable that would be if challenged 865 00:49:47,700 --> 00:49:50,460 on a road that you know we would have a 866 00:49:50,460 --> 00:49:53,940 dozen signs entering the city and if you 867 00:49:53,940 --> 00:49:55,980 so I mean that's one of the reasons that 868 00:49:55,980 --> 00:49:58,619 I haven't been actively pushing this 869 00:49:58,619 --> 00:50:01,640 topic is because it's a large topic 870 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,440 even Kings Road it's Cloud station Kings 871 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,160 Road is not a vocal Rover 872 00:50:08,160 --> 00:50:10,920 so we would need to talk to the dot 873 00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:12,599 about that 874 00:50:12,599 --> 00:50:13,160 um 875 00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:15,359 yeah I mean there are the towns that 876 00:50:15,359 --> 00:50:17,940 have done this so far are small I think 877 00:50:17,940 --> 00:50:20,520 it's East Greenbush are both working on 878 00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:21,300 these 879 00:50:21,300 --> 00:50:23,700 considerably smaller than Schenectady I 880 00:50:23,700 --> 00:50:25,079 don't know of any cities that have gone 881 00:50:25,079 --> 00:50:27,300 through with a full city-wide change yet 882 00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:28,859 but I'm sure there in the works that's 883 00:50:28,859 --> 00:50:30,839 why I was working with the cdtc to see 884 00:50:30,839 --> 00:50:33,240 what we could do to follow 885 00:50:33,240 --> 00:50:37,670 sometimes it's just as good to follow 886 00:50:37,680 --> 00:50:39,900 theme song I know for me personally I 887 00:50:39,900 --> 00:50:42,240 would hate for it to be interpreted by 888 00:50:42,240 --> 00:50:44,339 and watching this that the only way to 889 00:50:44,339 --> 00:50:46,680 get your street or neighborhood in the 890 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,559 community adhere to is by getting an 891 00:50:49,559 --> 00:50:51,599 article in The Gazette and I know that's 892 00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:54,300 not what we're supported but definitely 893 00:50:54,300 --> 00:50:57,240 there is a concerted effort from our 894 00:50:57,240 --> 00:51:02,089 Avid growing white community 895 00:51:02,099 --> 00:51:05,160 topic to be a survey 896 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,020 significant way and so I definitely 897 00:51:07,020 --> 00:51:09,960 think having those surveys in Step which 898 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:11,040 show the community that we are 899 00:51:11,040 --> 00:51:13,380 identifying this but also you raise a 900 00:51:13,380 --> 00:51:15,720 really good point about unfortunately so 901 00:51:15,720 --> 00:51:17,640 also looking at what is our multi-tiered 902 00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,440 approach as a city with respect to 903 00:51:19,440 --> 00:51:21,599 addressing cities with it with respect 904 00:51:21,599 --> 00:51:23,700 to addressing speed and I think it is 905 00:51:23,700 --> 00:51:25,559 now appropriate to then talk about what 906 00:51:25,559 --> 00:51:27,059 tool we currently do have which is speed 907 00:51:27,059 --> 00:51:29,880 homes so are there any interest or is 908 00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:31,559 there additional funding to put more of 909 00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:34,800 those deploy some of those resources if 910 00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:36,960 we were able to speak to that right now 911 00:51:36,960 --> 00:51:39,839 yeah I guess my opinion which is 912 00:51:39,839 --> 00:51:41,880 probably not is popular because to be 913 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,160 more of the engineering opinion is that 914 00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:47,579 the things that we are doing today are 915 00:51:47,579 --> 00:51:50,099 what we should be doing uh the data that 916 00:51:50,099 --> 00:51:52,980 initial presented you know the post the 917 00:51:52,980 --> 00:51:55,619 pre-data and then we could do Post data 918 00:51:55,619 --> 00:51:57,960 same order with Dwayne Avenue and rugby 919 00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:59,460 which we're going to be doing 920 00:51:59,460 --> 00:52:01,079 we're getting data we're seeing the 921 00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:02,520 effects and then we're going to look at 922 00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:04,440 the effects as it didn't work and if it 923 00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:06,180 works it's a problem so what you're 924 00:52:06,180 --> 00:52:07,319 saying is that you're going to put the 925 00:52:07,319 --> 00:52:10,260 information before intervention and then 926 00:52:10,260 --> 00:52:11,700 after the invention to measure the 927 00:52:11,700 --> 00:52:13,260 effect of this intervention right okay 928 00:52:13,260 --> 00:52:15,780 but this is this is 929 00:52:15,780 --> 00:52:18,599 if I made a drop but this is this is the 930 00:52:18,599 --> 00:52:20,339 free data and then we'll lower the speed 931 00:52:20,339 --> 00:52:22,380 limit here as a demonstration project 932 00:52:22,380 --> 00:52:24,960 for this one road 933 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,300 um and then we'll have that data as our 934 00:52:27,300 --> 00:52:29,819 post data right right but I think the 935 00:52:29,819 --> 00:52:31,500 difference was that there hasn't been a 936 00:52:31,500 --> 00:52:34,260 police uh an enforcement uis there 937 00:52:34,260 --> 00:52:36,839 hasn't been a concerted effort to notify 938 00:52:36,839 --> 00:52:38,520 the community with regards to this so 939 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:39,660 interesting 940 00:52:39,660 --> 00:52:41,700 so I think it's different with regards 941 00:52:41,700 --> 00:52:44,280 to this uh what tomorrow doing in 942 00:52:44,280 --> 00:52:45,319 speeding 943 00:52:45,319 --> 00:52:48,960 yeah I guess the speed humps 944 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:52,619 you're trying not to bias the jury 945 00:52:52,619 --> 00:52:55,500 you know so we we put the cameras up and 946 00:52:55,500 --> 00:52:57,780 they're in incognito mode before so they 947 00:52:57,780 --> 00:52:59,280 don't flash because the flashing is 948 00:52:59,280 --> 00:53:01,020 actually the term you don't want to 949 00:53:01,020 --> 00:53:02,760 deter you want to see what is actually 950 00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,460 happening similarly now that we have the 951 00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:07,079 speed humps on the core work with their 952 00:53:07,079 --> 00:53:09,300 back and they're also in incognito mode 953 00:53:09,300 --> 00:53:10,740 because we don't want to 954 00:53:10,740 --> 00:53:13,859 be both now in the end of the day both 955 00:53:13,859 --> 00:53:16,200 is probably the most effective but we're 956 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:17,760 trying to find out how effective were 957 00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,180 these right so we're going to try to see 958 00:53:21,180 --> 00:53:22,319 how effective they are and we're moving 959 00:53:22,319 --> 00:53:24,000 them to another area you know so we're 960 00:53:24,000 --> 00:53:25,680 going to have one in Hamilton Hill then 961 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:27,119 we're going to move on to the high 962 00:53:27,119 --> 00:53:28,559 school area north side of the city and 963 00:53:28,559 --> 00:53:30,359 see what we have and be able to say you 964 00:53:30,359 --> 00:53:31,559 know what these work you know 965 00:53:31,559 --> 00:53:33,720 surprisingly we have gotten any 966 00:53:33,720 --> 00:53:36,200 complaints 967 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:38,640 but that was one of the you know the 968 00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,680 many factors is we put these speed 969 00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:43,920 tables directly in front of residential 970 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:46,140 homes and I have not heard from the 971 00:53:46,140 --> 00:53:47,640 residents the resident one resident we 972 00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:49,619 talked to welcomed it oh yeah 973 00:53:49,619 --> 00:53:52,079 um and so but it is a you know it was a 974 00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:52,980 noise 975 00:53:52,980 --> 00:53:54,660 um that they didn't make so that was 976 00:53:54,660 --> 00:53:56,940 right off the bat okay no complaints 977 00:53:56,940 --> 00:53:58,859 okay now we move on to the next are they 978 00:53:58,859 --> 00:54:00,960 working how far do we want to put them 979 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:02,819 apart are people speeding up is it you 980 00:54:02,819 --> 00:54:04,740 know haven't haven't gotten complaints 981 00:54:04,740 --> 00:54:05,700 about that 982 00:54:05,700 --> 00:54:07,800 about people going over them and then 983 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,079 racing to the next one you know so 984 00:54:10,079 --> 00:54:12,180 hopefully that's a good sign hopefully 985 00:54:12,180 --> 00:54:14,280 people are adhering to it we're also 986 00:54:14,280 --> 00:54:16,680 doing them in this period which were 987 00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:18,300 picked this window because we're going 988 00:54:18,300 --> 00:54:20,880 to have it during school not school and 989 00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,260 then the other one is going to be no 990 00:54:22,260 --> 00:54:24,420 school during school so we can try to 991 00:54:24,420 --> 00:54:26,640 get a more fair evaluation of what 992 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:29,880 really happened but 993 00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,160 I think it's difficult to just it's a 994 00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,859 significant investment and to just go 995 00:54:34,859 --> 00:54:39,240 and make it based off of you know a 996 00:54:39,240 --> 00:54:41,280 complaint that's it's a difficult puts 997 00:54:41,280 --> 00:54:42,660 me in a difficult position it puts John 998 00:54:42,660 --> 00:54:44,099 in a difficult position for us to do 999 00:54:44,099 --> 00:54:45,540 these things it's the exact same thing 1000 00:54:45,540 --> 00:54:47,099 that happens with stop signs you know 1001 00:54:47,099 --> 00:54:48,480 and that's what happened 1002 00:54:48,480 --> 00:54:49,740 today you know what if we got a stop 1003 00:54:49,740 --> 00:54:51,839 sign here that would solve all of our 1004 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:53,640 problems with the stop signs or not 1005 00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:55,380 supposed to be traffic control devices 1006 00:54:55,380 --> 00:54:56,880 we're not supposed to solve problems 1007 00:54:56,880 --> 00:55:01,140 both will be there for a reason so 1008 00:55:01,140 --> 00:55:02,700 I'm gonna try to go in and to your point 1009 00:55:02,700 --> 00:55:03,780 they're not here right now but 1010 00:55:03,780 --> 00:55:05,099 enforcement 1011 00:55:05,099 --> 00:55:07,740 it's huge it's a huge part of it and I 1012 00:55:07,740 --> 00:55:09,180 do think that the police are taking it 1013 00:55:09,180 --> 00:55:11,220 seriously they have a grant to buy more 1014 00:55:11,220 --> 00:55:12,900 radar enforcement signs which we've been 1015 00:55:12,900 --> 00:55:15,240 working on uh the trailer they were 1016 00:55:15,240 --> 00:55:17,040 moving it around wherever John and I are 1017 00:55:17,040 --> 00:55:18,960 the mayor put it into 1018 00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,300 to try to help in certain areas so 1019 00:55:21,300 --> 00:55:25,069 I think that also helps 1020 00:55:25,079 --> 00:55:26,819 the question especially well I just I 1021 00:55:26,819 --> 00:55:29,940 just want to try to summarize but I 1022 00:55:29,940 --> 00:55:32,220 think that this demonstration project 1023 00:55:32,220 --> 00:55:34,800 will be some useful information and I'm 1024 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:37,319 thrilled that we're doing it 1025 00:55:37,319 --> 00:55:38,940 has been 1026 00:55:38,940 --> 00:55:40,859 an ongoing discussion we're certainly 1027 00:55:40,859 --> 00:55:43,500 all hearing it throughout the city we're 1028 00:55:43,500 --> 00:55:45,300 all here I'm sure all of us are hearing 1029 00:55:45,300 --> 00:55:47,940 from residents that speeding is you know 1030 00:55:47,940 --> 00:55:50,040 one of the top concerns that's out there 1031 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:52,319 right now I think we're seeing it also 1032 00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:54,839 probably individually as we drive around 1033 00:55:54,839 --> 00:55:58,079 so I appreciate everything that you guys 1034 00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,640 are doing 1035 00:55:59,640 --> 00:56:03,059 already to try to work on this and I'm 1036 00:56:03,059 --> 00:56:04,440 looking forward to getting 1037 00:56:04,440 --> 00:56:07,140 seeing what happens after we he puts the 1038 00:56:07,140 --> 00:56:09,180 25 mile per hour 1039 00:56:09,180 --> 00:56:12,119 in place on the demo 1040 00:56:12,119 --> 00:56:14,579 so just because so do we need any input 1041 00:56:14,579 --> 00:56:17,220 from dot at all to um I'm going to 1042 00:56:17,220 --> 00:56:19,140 retirement if this is the anchors we 1043 00:56:19,140 --> 00:56:21,000 want to look to make this the 25 miles 1044 00:56:21,000 --> 00:56:23,579 per hour test and I will reach out to 1045 00:56:23,579 --> 00:56:27,130 them 1046 00:56:27,140 --> 00:56:29,760 for any other questions or comments 1047 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:33,059 regarding this topic about Miss Patrick 1048 00:56:33,059 --> 00:56:34,800 will be here bring it back in two weeks 1049 00:56:34,800 --> 00:56:38,160 yes sir thank you so much 1050 00:56:38,160 --> 00:56:39,780 there are no other items that can fall 1051 00:56:39,780 --> 00:56:41,640 before Public Safety can I please accept 1052 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:43,940 emotions return 1053 00:56:43,940 --> 00:56:46,579 all those in favor 1054 00:56:46,579 --> 00:56:48,540 I'd like to call it or decision 1055 00:56:48,540 --> 00:56:51,900 development planning we have five items 1056 00:56:51,900 --> 00:56:54,420 on the agenda first one is Ramon to 1057 00:56:54,420 --> 00:56:55,800 authorize the mayor to enter into 1058 00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:57,420 supplemental agreement number three with 1059 00:56:57,420 --> 00:56:58,440 the New York State Department of 1060 00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:00,660 Transportation for the placement Kings 1061 00:57:00,660 --> 00:57:04,400 Road Bridge so speak of the devil 1062 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:08,059 Kings Road Bridge uh you awarded 1063 00:57:08,059 --> 00:57:10,740 the actual contract to win the 1064 00:57:10,740 --> 00:57:13,680 construction uh two cycles ago once we 1065 00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,740 had that we sent the contract and the 1066 00:57:16,740 --> 00:57:19,619 documents to the dot they authorize and 1067 00:57:19,619 --> 00:57:21,420 come back with a supplemental agreement 1068 00:57:21,420 --> 00:57:22,680 the supplemental agreement in front of 1069 00:57:22,680 --> 00:57:26,520 you is for the 95 reimbursement for the 1070 00:57:26,520 --> 00:57:28,980 cost of the great replacement 1071 00:57:28,980 --> 00:57:32,470 are there any questions 1072 00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:36,180 so second I was in favor hi item number 1073 00:57:36,180 --> 00:57:37,920 two award-winning contract for the half 1074 00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,859 in place asphalt recycling 1075 00:57:40,859 --> 00:57:44,099 um this is a holding we used to do hot 1076 00:57:44,099 --> 00:57:46,020 and place recycling 1077 00:57:46,020 --> 00:57:47,579 um as everyone knows it was a process 1078 00:57:47,579 --> 00:57:51,660 with large train with lots of fire 1079 00:57:51,660 --> 00:57:54,720 rejuvenator rolling it was a actually 1080 00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:58,559 very useful process however it was not 1081 00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:00,780 applied at every application in the 1082 00:58:00,780 --> 00:58:03,839 right right spot right time so what 1083 00:58:03,839 --> 00:58:06,059 would happen is that it's an overlay it 1084 00:58:06,059 --> 00:58:08,819 is not a mill we usually I'd say 95 1085 00:58:08,819 --> 00:58:11,099 percent of our Paving program is a Mill 1086 00:58:11,099 --> 00:58:13,859 and paper because we have curves we have 1087 00:58:13,859 --> 00:58:16,200 drainage structures we have driveways we 1088 00:58:16,200 --> 00:58:19,079 really can't add a pavement so when we 1089 00:58:19,079 --> 00:58:23,040 do a hot in place we add three quarter 1090 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:25,319 of an inch of a polymer pavement over 1091 00:58:25,319 --> 00:58:27,240 the rejuvenated service 1092 00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,400 um we found historically it does last 1093 00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,040 the product does work it saves US money 1094 00:58:32,040 --> 00:58:34,500 however in certain areas when we've done 1095 00:58:34,500 --> 00:58:36,180 it you create puddles and driveways 1096 00:58:36,180 --> 00:58:38,220 because we're now affecting the drainage 1097 00:58:38,220 --> 00:58:41,000 and so we took a pause on it for a while 1098 00:58:41,000 --> 00:58:43,440 and this year we have a couple of 1099 00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:46,500 candidates up in Bellevue that we are 1100 00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:49,559 looking to try it again because we think 1101 00:58:49,559 --> 00:58:50,880 that those candidate streets are 1102 00:58:50,880 --> 00:58:52,619 worthwhile this is an award-winning 1103 00:58:52,619 --> 00:58:55,020 contract but it's actually a piggyback 1104 00:58:55,020 --> 00:58:59,040 the county uses this process and we are 1105 00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:01,380 allowed to piggyback off of County bids 1106 00:59:01,380 --> 00:59:03,180 so this would be that's what we've done 1107 00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:05,460 in the past as we we pull what we would 1108 00:59:05,460 --> 00:59:06,900 like from the counties good to use it 1109 00:59:06,900 --> 00:59:09,359 ourselves this is the only group that 1110 00:59:09,359 --> 00:59:11,220 actually does this so it's almost like a 1111 00:59:11,220 --> 00:59:13,380 sole source but it's not and we are 1112 00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:17,460 going to you know walk survey the area 1113 00:59:17,460 --> 00:59:19,260 and we are going to try this in areas 1114 00:59:19,260 --> 00:59:21,299 where we think it is acceptable I'll 1115 00:59:21,299 --> 00:59:22,980 give you just an example to talk too 1116 00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:25,319 much on an area where I don't believe it 1117 00:59:25,319 --> 00:59:26,520 should have been done was like at Union 1118 00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:29,940 Avenue by Union College if you 1119 00:59:29,940 --> 00:59:34,680 drive it you will notice that paid over the curbs and there is a 1120 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,920 giant rough now between union Avenue and 1121 00:59:37,920 --> 00:59:39,960 the green space 1122 00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:41,940 because we just we just put a little too 1123 00:59:41,940 --> 00:59:43,260 much pavement on that road we really 1124 00:59:43,260 --> 00:59:45,299 needed to bring the paper down 1125 00:59:45,299 --> 00:59:47,880 curb line established instead we kind of 1126 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:50,700 overflow of the curved line and now the 1127 00:59:50,700 --> 00:59:52,740 Green Space has become a makeshift 1128 00:59:52,740 --> 00:59:54,599 gutter line which isn't how that drill 1129 00:59:54,599 --> 00:59:57,180 is supposed to be so that is an instance 1130 00:59:57,180 --> 00:59:58,859 where you really just don't want to go 1131 00:59:58,859 --> 01:00:01,740 and hold the later road because it's a 1132 01:00:01,740 --> 01:00:05,750 nice new product 1133 01:00:05,760 --> 01:00:10,079 and so so I'm hearing that my first 1134 01:00:10,079 --> 01:00:12,059 intention is like that's amazing that we 1135 01:00:12,059 --> 01:00:15,240 like I have identified that now 1136 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,579 your experience how is that continually 1137 01:00:17,579 --> 01:00:19,740 captured moving forward 1138 01:00:19,740 --> 01:00:21,599 like that truth that 1139 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:24,420 of what we should have done well you 1140 01:00:24,420 --> 01:00:25,559 could always do it by you know the 1141 01:00:25,559 --> 01:00:27,180 artists in the end but now you know we 1142 01:00:27,180 --> 01:00:28,740 have a consultant and we tell them these 1143 01:00:28,740 --> 01:00:30,359 are the tools that we would like to have 1144 01:00:30,359 --> 01:00:34,619 in our toolbox and look for candidate streets so 1145 01:00:34,619 --> 01:00:37,079 typically downtown if we're doing a 1146 01:00:37,079 --> 01:00:38,700 downtown area the other thing is to tell 1147 01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:41,160 you the train is enormous they call it a 1148 01:00:41,160 --> 01:00:43,319 train it is enormous it cannot do city 1149 01:00:43,319 --> 01:00:46,440 streets it needs to kind of just fade 1150 01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:48,540 away and make a nice big radius it's a 1151 01:00:48,540 --> 01:00:50,700 camel nice turn Fairview those are nice 1152 01:00:50,700 --> 01:00:52,680 streams to have you know that kind of a 1153 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,780 process you know you couldn't put it in 1154 01:00:54,780 --> 01:00:57,780 a downtown Because by the time the first 1155 01:00:57,780 --> 01:00:59,400 truck is making the turn the last truck 1156 01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,619 they're Jane and so it's really meant 1157 01:01:01,619 --> 01:01:04,380 for uh you know more rural roads but we 1158 01:01:04,380 --> 01:01:07,020 did find that it was a good product and 1159 01:01:07,020 --> 01:01:08,280 I'm not saying you'll see me here next 1160 01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:10,140 year with it it's kind of like if a road 1161 01:01:10,140 --> 01:01:12,599 is applicable for it we use it if not if 1162 01:01:12,599 --> 01:01:15,240 not and since we can piggyback it really 1163 01:01:15,240 --> 01:01:16,700 doesn't add a lot of work to our 1164 01:01:16,700 --> 01:01:22,490 workbook we're just selecting things 1165 01:01:22,500 --> 01:01:23,040 um 1166 01:01:23,040 --> 01:01:25,559 you mentioned Bellevue as possible sites 1167 01:01:25,559 --> 01:01:27,059 I was just wondering can you identified 1168 01:01:27,059 --> 01:01:28,980 where you think you're going to be yeah 1169 01:01:28,980 --> 01:01:30,359 I think Campbell's the main one that 1170 01:01:30,359 --> 01:01:31,559 we're going to try it on and try to do 1171 01:01:31,559 --> 01:01:33,480 as much as Campbell as we can because 1172 01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,220 that seems to work out pretty well for 1173 01:01:35,220 --> 01:01:36,599 that and then I think a piece of 1174 01:01:36,599 --> 01:01:38,400 Fairview I don't have the list I should 1175 01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:39,900 have brought it but those are the areas 1176 01:01:39,900 --> 01:01:41,400 we like it's just kind of and you know 1177 01:01:41,400 --> 01:01:42,720 the paving program we're trying to do 1178 01:01:42,720 --> 01:01:44,160 things in concentration so we're not 1179 01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:46,319 going back to one area and you know 1180 01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:48,839 hitting people every year so that's 1181 01:01:48,839 --> 01:01:50,040 where that's where we're looking to do 1182 01:01:50,040 --> 01:01:51,599 but I can send the list to you tomorrow 1183 01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:54,309 morning 1184 01:01:54,319 --> 01:01:59,990 sure yeah 1185 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:02,040 any questions 1186 01:02:02,040 --> 01:02:08,650 right there yes 1187 01:02:08,660 --> 01:02:11,339 thank you 1188 01:02:11,339 --> 01:02:15,430 any questions 1189 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,589 thank you 1190 01:02:18,599 --> 01:02:20,880 I'm number three the filing of zoning 1191 01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:23,040 administrative decisions 1192 01:02:23,040 --> 01:02:25,319 um Mr Marney 1193 01:02:25,319 --> 01:02:27,480 yet unfortunately I had to run out of 1194 01:02:27,480 --> 01:02:30,000 the Planning Commission meeting so I 1195 01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:33,589 will come with us 1196 01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:38,160 um so one of the requirements 1197 01:02:38,160 --> 01:02:40,319 um that happens out of the zoning office 1198 01:02:40,319 --> 01:02:43,500 is or part of the job is to for the 1199 01:02:43,500 --> 01:02:45,599 zoning officer to issue zoning 1200 01:02:45,599 --> 01:02:46,980 compliance determinations or 1201 01:02:46,980 --> 01:02:50,220 administrative zoning decisions somebody 1202 01:02:50,220 --> 01:02:52,260 will request something very specific the 1203 01:02:52,260 --> 01:02:54,780 zoning officer reviews uh the requests 1204 01:02:54,780 --> 01:02:56,839 and then comes up with the determination 1205 01:02:56,839 --> 01:02:58,680 as it stands right now those 1206 01:02:58,680 --> 01:03:01,380 determination letters are filed in that 1207 01:03:01,380 --> 01:03:02,240 office 1208 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:05,160 a better practice and it would have to 1209 01:03:05,160 --> 01:03:07,760 be authorized by city councils for those 1210 01:03:07,760 --> 01:03:10,260 decision letters those administrative 1211 01:03:10,260 --> 01:03:13,920 zoning decisions to be filed with 1212 01:03:13,920 --> 01:03:16,200 um the the record officer for the city 1213 01:03:16,200 --> 01:03:19,500 which is the city clerk so that is 1214 01:03:19,500 --> 01:03:21,180 because it is an administrative decision 1215 01:03:21,180 --> 01:03:23,520 so it would be accessible to the public 1216 01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:27,359 and it would create a process for 1217 01:03:27,359 --> 01:03:29,700 essentially a time limit for somebody 1218 01:03:29,700 --> 01:03:31,680 who would like to challenge a 1219 01:03:31,680 --> 01:03:34,020 determination by the zoning officer to 1220 01:03:34,020 --> 01:03:35,400 do it within a certain amount of time 1221 01:03:35,400 --> 01:03:39,680 once it's filed with the city clerk 1222 01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:44,040 as I said many of these decision letters 1223 01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:45,780 right now are not well none of them are 1224 01:03:45,780 --> 01:03:47,640 following the city clerk and this would 1225 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,799 create a formal office for the receipt 1226 01:03:49,799 --> 01:03:52,920 of those the term those determinations 1227 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,040 um because there is a deadline for 1228 01:03:56,040 --> 01:03:59,640 people to challenge a decision of the 1229 01:03:59,640 --> 01:04:02,280 zoning officer by filing it with the 1230 01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:04,440 city clerk every single time it would 1231 01:04:04,440 --> 01:04:08,819 create essentially uh the stopwatch so 1232 01:04:08,819 --> 01:04:10,859 to speak for a person to challenge the 1233 01:04:10,859 --> 01:04:12,599 determination because those 1234 01:04:12,599 --> 01:04:15,960 discriminations would be challenged you 1235 01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,900 know through uh could be the BCA and 1236 01:04:18,900 --> 01:04:20,819 eventually become an article 78 some 1237 01:04:20,819 --> 01:04:23,160 people challenging care too so this 1238 01:04:23,160 --> 01:04:25,859 creates a formal process so we're 1239 01:04:25,859 --> 01:04:27,480 looking for authorization for the city 1240 01:04:27,480 --> 01:04:29,839 council to 1241 01:04:29,839 --> 01:04:33,900 require the zoning officer to file those 1242 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:35,940 administrative zoning decisions with the 1243 01:04:35,940 --> 01:04:39,720 city clerk and also direct the zoning 1244 01:04:39,720 --> 01:04:42,500 officer to also file those 1245 01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:44,760 administrative zoning decisions not from 1246 01:04:44,760 --> 01:04:46,740 a legal standpoint but just a practical 1247 01:04:46,740 --> 01:04:49,079 standpoint in whatever computer system 1248 01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:52,319 the city is using but currently it's 1249 01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:55,440 Unicity but who knows in you know 20 1250 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,760 years it could be a different program 1251 01:04:56,760 --> 01:04:58,920 that the city sees it 1252 01:04:58,920 --> 01:05:01,500 so that's what we're looking for is just 1253 01:05:01,500 --> 01:05:03,420 a way to clean up the process that's 1254 01:05:03,420 --> 01:05:05,640 currently in place by creating one 1255 01:05:05,640 --> 01:05:08,640 designated person legally to for which 1256 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:11,160 the zoning officer would file those 1257 01:05:11,160 --> 01:05:12,599 decisions 1258 01:05:12,599 --> 01:05:14,280 so do you know about how many decisions 1259 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:16,020 we're talking about I'm just I'm just 1260 01:05:16,020 --> 01:05:17,940 trying to get my head around how much 1261 01:05:17,940 --> 01:05:20,940 additional work this is going to create 1262 01:05:20,940 --> 01:05:22,619 um I don't know the exact number that 1263 01:05:22,619 --> 01:05:24,240 come in 1264 01:05:24,240 --> 01:05:25,799 um certainly you know we're not talking 1265 01:05:25,799 --> 01:05:27,660 about one a day or anything along those 1266 01:05:27,660 --> 01:05:31,020 lines they come up periodically uh many 1267 01:05:31,020 --> 01:05:33,420 times it's somebody who's looking to buy 1268 01:05:33,420 --> 01:05:36,299 a property and they want to know hey can 1269 01:05:36,299 --> 01:05:38,339 I use the property for this under the 1270 01:05:38,339 --> 01:05:39,839 zoning code 1271 01:05:39,839 --> 01:05:42,420 um the informal request and then a 1272 01:05:42,420 --> 01:05:44,880 formal letter from the zoning officer 1273 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:47,400 that letter would then be filed so it 1274 01:05:47,400 --> 01:05:49,200 doesn't you know it comes up every so 1275 01:05:49,200 --> 01:05:51,780 often a lot of times it will be like 1276 01:05:51,780 --> 01:05:55,200 maybe in an R1 District where there's a 1277 01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:57,359 two-family house can I still use it as a 1278 01:05:57,359 --> 01:05:58,740 two-family house or in a commercial 1279 01:05:58,740 --> 01:06:01,859 District can I use it as you know this 1280 01:06:01,859 --> 01:06:04,140 commercial space as a restaurant so it 1281 01:06:04,140 --> 01:06:06,900 would be a decision letter like that and 1282 01:06:06,900 --> 01:06:08,819 the process for the city clerk will just 1283 01:06:08,819 --> 01:06:10,559 be to receive 1284 01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:12,960 um it is a filing like the city clerk 1285 01:06:12,960 --> 01:06:17,510 would receive a determination of the BCA 1286 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,980 Williams was this determination made 1287 01:06:19,980 --> 01:06:22,500 with the city clerk's office the city 1288 01:06:22,500 --> 01:06:26,520 clerk um no the city clerk is aware of 1289 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:28,740 it um you know we did talk about it at 1290 01:06:28,740 --> 01:06:30,799 the legislative conference 1291 01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:35,400 it does create as I said you know 1292 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:37,500 it is more work than cities for the city 1293 01:06:37,500 --> 01:06:39,839 clerk's office there's no doubt about it 1294 01:06:39,839 --> 01:06:41,339 um you know I can't tell you how much 1295 01:06:41,339 --> 01:06:43,920 more time it will take for the city 1296 01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:46,140 clerk to you know receive and then you 1297 01:06:46,140 --> 01:06:49,740 know file and presumably put into laser 1298 01:06:49,740 --> 01:06:51,780 fish it would be the zoning officer who 1299 01:06:51,780 --> 01:06:54,480 would put it in the computer system the 1300 01:06:54,480 --> 01:06:56,220 separate computer system that you know 1301 01:06:56,220 --> 01:06:59,819 the Departments have access to but it 1302 01:06:59,819 --> 01:07:04,380 really is you know a necessary piece for 1303 01:07:04,380 --> 01:07:07,319 the city to create a formal body to 1304 01:07:07,319 --> 01:07:12,770 clerk to receive these decisions 1305 01:07:12,780 --> 01:07:20,289 any other questions 1306 01:07:20,299 --> 01:07:25,130 all right 1307 01:07:25,140 --> 01:07:26,160 um 1308 01:07:26,160 --> 01:07:28,200 item number four is the sale of a 1309 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,319 property of 2180 Desmond Avenue make a 1310 01:07:31,319 --> 01:07:32,940 lot and item number five is a special 1311 01:07:32,940 --> 01:07:35,520 1040 Wonder Avenue and both of those 1312 01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:37,799 will be an executive session so at this 1313 01:07:37,799 --> 01:07:39,240 point in time I'd like to ask for a 1314 01:07:39,240 --> 01:07:43,569 motion to reset 1315 01:07:43,579 --> 01:07:46,920 okay I'd like to call our claims 1316 01:07:46,920 --> 01:07:49,079 committee to order we have three items 1317 01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:51,119 on the agenda all of which need to be 1318 01:07:51,119 --> 01:07:53,819 addressed in indicative sessions so I 1319 01:07:53,819 --> 01:07:56,039 would like to call for a motion to go 1320 01:07:56,039 --> 01:07:58,460 into executive session 1321 01:07:58,460 --> 01:08:01,500 so all in favor 1322 01:08:01,500 --> 01:08:32,210 aye okay thank you 1323 01:08:32,220 --> 01:08:42,859 [Music]