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meeting for Monday August 21st 2023
first committee it's Finance Mr Mutual
thank you I'd like to follow the finance
committee to order at the foresight of
this update 20 23 24 Action Plan
application
episodes
I'm here for the
23-24 annual action plan uh to allocate
2 million 102
000.44 through the development block
grant funds and 187 000 and three
dollars to an emergency solution Grant
funds and finally 1 million
yeah I wanted to ask a question about
the programming that it's supposed to
take place in Jerry Royale
as well but we allocate money today can
you speak to that that was forward last
year you know this is where the future
going forward and then it took place in
March report and they deal with Willie D
he's sending me videos of polls so if
they did not have programming and a jury
reveal but they did have a different
department thank you
any other questions
second all in favor all right thank you
the next item is
compliance policy Mr Ferrari
foreign
just recently we're about to close on
the EFC loans for uh the race car
treating plant and uh
North Ferry Street Pump Station and one
of the requirements of from New York
state is for us to have a
by adjusting uh post Assurance
compliance policy which I had thought
that our procedure policy was the same
according to our bond Council there was
it so we got together with our Obama
Council of her and I we hammered out a
post issuance compliance and policy
which is uh within your books there this uh policy uh is uh issued and uh is
for uh you know tax tax exempt or tax
advantage bases in this part of the uh
Internal Revenue code 1986. so this
would help the city is connecting put us
in you know complete compliance with
that
so we're asking the city council adopt
that policy
any questions
may have one more show
second all in favor
thank you very much the next item is
increasing the maximum income for New
York real property tax exemption Mr
Williams thank you uh so in 2022 the New
York State descent and assembly passing
Amendment
adjusting the maximum amount for
individuals needing this criteria based
on some information that I received I
noticed that within the city we have not
adjusted that income statute since 2009
I think based on some of the
quality of life they should be
recognized nationally I think that is a
big
Gap that is now placed at our
responsibility to adjust these threat
for these individuals within our
community so with us today we do have
Miss McElroy who I imagine this is more
for the background income provides some
better context to the council but based
on myself I would definitely like to see
this maximized and I definitely when we
talk about vulnerable or populations of
that are disadvantaged I think it's our
responsibility as a city to make sure we
present sufficient resources to assist
them and uh without further ado
let's go
um
part of this
happened because of covet so for the
last couple of years we haven't been
um the state gave us the opportunity to
extend the exemption for folks so that
they didn't have to come in and file
their paperwork so we look at two years
back income so we're talking about the
last time we actually looked at folks
income was 2018 so that this year was
the first year we had to do that again
and what happened was increases there
was a big increase in Social Security
for a lot of folks in 2021 so now
looking at this year we would have
looked at the 2021 income
and it kicked a lot of people off the
exemption because if you've seen the
sliding scale that's in the city code
there's just a very very small amount
could kick somebody off of having this
exemption or even we've had people go
from having 50 exemption to having no
exemption at all and that's a big deal
if you're on fixed income a lot of
people don't
you know they don't they don't plan for
that they don't know that that's going
to happen so we haven't raised this the sliding scale at all since 2009 last
year the state gave local
municipalities the opportunity to pick
her up we gave municipalities the
opportunity to do a local law in order
to increase the sliding scale I'm not
sure that it's
the best idea for us to go all the way
to to 50 000 as the the
um I mean it gives us the opportunity to
do that but that's a pretty big
um chunk of people I think that would be
included in it it may affect the city
financially but there's got to be some
Midway Point um that we can you know
that we can find so that those people
that were kicked off because of an
increase in Social Security might be
able to then take advantage of the
exemption again
I'm not sure if there's any questions
I'm more than happy to answer
so just like um overall
I'm probably a good question to answer
that do you have any idea of what what
city did go to America you know
do you know what that impact my
reflective saving dollars
um it's it's hard to say because of
um because we don't know what Phil's
income is you know it's they have to if
this is an exemption that has to be
renewed every year and they have to
provide us with their federal income tax
return and we calculate income a little
differently than the IRS does so it's
not just the bottom line number
but so in that way it's hard to predict
I would say you know if we went to the
maximum amount of 50 000 that would add
a lot more people than than had been
able to take advantage of it before but
if you found some number that you know
there may be a way I'm not sure how
other municipalities have done this some
have adopted this and some haven't
so I can talk to some other assessors
accessory if there was a way that they
were able to
somehow hedge of that as to you know
where to set that limit but it I know we
did lose a lot of people and I know
there were a lot of people that
it drops significantly so that say they
had 50 well a lot of you know people I
saw had 10 or 15 percent and even that
is a lot to you know it's a lot in taxes
to not be prepared to have to um
cover I guess so there may be some ways to do
it to get a better idea I'm just not
quite sure
thank you Mr chairman
appreciate Mr Williams the council has
to look at at least making sure it's
keeping up with inflation and not only
talks about people who are in this place
does
normal increments that will happen
within Social Security or other income
that they may have had my understanding
is that some of those upper limits were
really designed for places on Long
Island
Westchester County New York City where
you have
higher levels of just overall affluence
so that
it might not be totally applicable to
Schenectady but again it's one of those
things where as well comes out it's hard
to know what the exact number you're
going to bring in so by doing
what's appropriate to
hold people harmless and provide some
benefit is there you don't want to shift
it so you precipitate a tax increase
across the board for everybody else but
how do you again
general rule uses to adjust it for
inflation it would take a little bit of
some number and
we have a little bit of time because
whatever the council does in this
wouldn't take effect until
2024 until it'll be in the next actual
year for collecting taxes
but I'm sorry I think there's definitely
ways I I was thinking that we could take
a look at the folks who have actually
lost the exemption just to see because
it's really we'd have to pull every file
one by one and look at the income tax
returns and the people who which is not
a it's not a big deal I mean it's
something we can absolutely do we can
get a sense of you know what's the
percentage that would make sense to go
off for some of those people who were
solidly in the program before
um
because of an increase in Social
Security they might have gotten bummed
off of it
so if we wanted to take some action what
would it require in terms you said you
mentioned local law so we had to change
local law yeah we'd have to update this
Andrew mentioned that we'd have to do
our public hearing
currently it's codified in the city code
at section 234-1
so if we would be amending that it would
have to be a call for a public hearing
and then the council would have to pick
afternoon to amendments in the code
so my suggestion the council is inclined
to do that take a look at that section I
can email it out tomorrow to the city
clerk and she can pass it along with
public council members that section of
the code to see how it's currently
written see what the scheme is the
exceptions because there are some
exceptions uh baked within that section
of the code so you can take a look at it
and see what changes if any and how you
may want it to be structured
do you think um because it seems like
this won't be taking me off it wouldn't
be inactive right away so
what's a reasonable amount of time you
think that maybe uh
kind of pull those individual files to
try to give us a better idea
um so we're not you know
um you know I mean we've got we've got
lots of honestly we don't send our
renewal notices out until October over
and applications are not due back into
March 1st of next year so it you know I
mean it's there's there's lots of time
to be able to do this it's just a matter
of like how soon you all you know this
is something that when we send out our
notices to people for Renewal or yeah we
can put something in the newspaper in
October around the time that we send
that so that it you know it would prompt
people to then come in in something you
know with their income if something's
changed so you know maybe some time
between now and
October
we could certainly pull files and take a
look it's just a matter of figuring out
who didn't get the exemption this year
and had it last year
entirely easy to do with our systems
so who didn't get it last year to this
year but they're raising the limit
there'd be a lot more that would apply
right yeah it's not I don't know that
for a fact but I mean it would make
sense
that follows and I agree with Mr
Williams I mean you know it needs to be
looked at but then listening to the
mayor absolutely yes we don't want to
cost
every taxpayer and increase so agreed
yeah
so I I will start working on that
tomorrow we'll start pulling files and
taking all good stuff and
figure out you know there's what what
might be a decent amount to raise it so
that you're not opening it down before
everybody but at the same time you're
being able to pull people back into it
who had already been you know used
budgeting for having their taxes
cool
um so Mr Williams is is that this is
just seniors and disabled would
low-income or veterans or anything fall
into that bill I don't know
yeah no it's just this just covers um so
this sliding scale and the income limit
just covers for the RP 467 which is for
folks who are over 65 and fall below
that income and then the disabled thank
you so disable them low income is what
sure goes hand in hand veterans are
there other categories of inceptions
yes veterans we don't look we only the
only thing we look at for veterans is
they're discharge papers they don't it
doesn't incoming online thank you
just having this brought back and you
said how much time do you think you need
to get that information that's it we'll
take a couple of weeks now and I'll let
you know when we have a pretty good
looking list we'll try to look at
everybody if we pull we pull all the
files and people who didn't get the
exemptions this year
um
those folders it's just a matter of
making sure we put that data down in the
paper so you guys can see it so I'd say
without burning her office uh definitely
looking at their four weeks
just like those four weeks
and Mr Coleen you're going to email that
section of the
bus yes
all right so we're friends back in four
weeks
thank you thank you to everyone thank
you any other businesses for finance
second all in favor thank you I'd like
to call to order City development of
planning we have eight items on the
agenda uh the first is discussion of the
city's annual ms4 request for 2023.
Chris Long
you're not this one
hello again uh yes uh Chris Wallen he's
not available to come today uh but he
left me
uh with Emma sport I'm really not
prepared to have a discussion but just
let me tell you what it's a little bit
about the ms4 is the municipal's uh
separate storm sore system ms4 fluores's
and what that is is that and the misfied
electricity is Schenectady
um our storm server system is not
connected with our sanitary system
through separate systems and we'll with
this uh report does that we've sent to
the state uh let us let the state know
that all our
sanatory storm serves were inspected and
they're all efficient and they're in
good shape
so that's basically what that is when
Chris Wallen returns uh from uh wherever
he is he'll be he'll be sending this to
the state
to find to have it filed
is this a discussion or we need to pass
something oh you need to pass
yeah and you said a discussion is I'm
not really able to discuss it uh I think
you just want to let you know that the
report was complete uh you have a copy
of the report and you need this is a
report you send it to the state
do you know when it's due to the states
uh it's I this is a a month or two later
than usual but it's due to the same uh
where are we now on at the end of
September so we have an opportunity
um to hear any questions to have this
year
so he said it's not due until the end of
September for sure that's cool are you
sure that no I'm not 100 sure I was I
was told the end of the month I don't
know I'm sure it was ended this month or
under September the month of September
power
if you have any questions
um then I would suggest emailing them
both to Mr Wallen and to the clerk so
everybody
um can see the questions and then if for
some reason a question comes up with it
doesn't move forward you can pull it but
otherwise all right very good thank you
very much because I appreciate that and
thank you
second all in favor
okay uh award bin contract for
transportation transfer you selection
yes is that you as well yeah uh I'm
taking Paul's Place uh we just had a bid
for our annual sludge right now we are
paying 250 for 215 per ton which we can
do about 10 000 tons annually we had a
recent bid our lowest bid came in at
155s and this is supposed this is going
to be starting uh as soon as possible I
think the contract's a faction if you
get that in the other bids came in at
over 179 179 even above so I think we
made it out good
and then
a bit and extracted down to 255 the
overall costs have been dramatically
increasing
for
disposal of the sludge wastewater
treatment and strength do we know mayor
what those into where the interim amount
was before
they in the amount she talked about like
the 215 versus the 155
80 a ton it's under 100 so it was a
Market a price
you compare to other
municipalities that's a competitive
number okay it's not anything that
I like to bring into you but that's the
reality of
people today
if any questions
and I could be mistaken by
thoughts
um
it was mentioning something uh on the
network I'm going to keep this calls for
us to purchase some things with the city
do you remember what I'm talking about
right I think he has been talking about
the digesters
other things which are major in
capitalism
enables to produce some of the overall
costs but there was some projected cost
savings over a period of time that they
would be actually paid for themselves
but yeah and I was switching up those
numbers now I just think of something
but you know obviously one of the things
is that you know the cost of building
some of the things that we're talking
about is in the tens of millions of
dollars and that is that is just the
estimated price we don't know if we
dropped a bit that's going to be so
but it's something we're having the back
of our mind for digesters and dryers
we're talking future future alcohol
constitutions you know months years I
would say years I cannot say multi-year
under takeoffs
we're talking tens of millions of
dollars
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a second all the favor all right thank
you very much all right thank you Mr
Ferrari
the next item on the agenda is a
reminder about the six-month moratorium
on the submission processing of building
permits for certificates of advocacy for
smoke shops vape shops and tobacco and
baby consumption businesses uh the
public hearing was on August 17th
seven August 7 sorry
um so we did have people come to public
hearing
um the tobacco-free uh Coalition I think
with the speakers and based on the
comments that they made and the comments
that were made by others that I believe
they invited they were under the
impression that what this would do is
choose for us to close
um current shops that are open so I I
didn't get a chance to speak to Mr I
wanted to to explain that that's not
what this moratorium is about
so I think they had that you know so
other than that
there were no other speakers that came
to um
to speak on about this
so at this point in time we as the
council have to
decide whether we'll move forward with
this and then also Mr Holden can you
explain further what would need to
happen to the council take steps sure
obviously Mr Hardy's been working quite
a bit
um
specific questions if the council is
inclined to move ahead with this it
needs to be referred to
the County Planning is there any
commission levels is the planning
department if you like Mr Marney to
answer specific questions about next
steps is obviously here
any questions anyone no okay all right
yes I'd like to hear you know moving
forward
I'd like to hear moving forward what we
would need to do for Mr Martin okay Mr
Martin do you have questions
specifically just generally okay
well so uh in order to move forward uh
the law doesn't require a referral of
the moratorium at the County Planning
agency uh so we would need a motion at
least council meeting to do that and to
resolve to move I saw
we would then send it over in the chair
of the middle County Planning Commission
during the County Planning agency is a
great Yellen
they they can be the period I think of
up to 30 days to review the moratorium
and when they send back their findings
support the moratorium they can go back
to council for both to adopt it if they
do not support it and still can go back
to the council to adopt it but we will
require a super majority
thank you
any other questions
and so I would guess I know we discussed
this a lot so in terms of the
enforcement that the mayor and the staff
is part of you doing
and we're glad to get one of these on
the mayor with regards to the updates so
hopefully uh this weekend we can get an
update sometime this week that's where
they are in terms of the continued
reinforcement of the NCAA Center
any of the
council members get complaints or
inquiries from the public or questions
that are raised feel free to foreign
I mean enforcement is obviously the
route that we're going but if we put a
moratorium on there then we obviously
know if illegal ones for popping up
within the city because if they're
popping up you know they're not supposed
to be at that point so that could
actually helps Naim and his whole crew
kind of Code Enforcement you know
realize that
um again people in the neighborhoods and
I'd be happy to send them on to
um to the mayor to Naim about um
foreign within a block again when they
with the council came to speak on Monday
I was the tobacco Council I was you know
I got the impression that they were
definitely concerned with the smoke
shops and The Vaping but also with
cigarette sales being so close to
schools and things which is something
you know every their store has or
something like that so that that's a
separate issue I think but
um you know again with the vaping out
there and our youth being so
vulnerable to the fancy glitches and
smoke flavors and things like that I
think we need to be really conscious of
especially maybe illegal ones popping up
not asking for proper ID obviously for
the top so I think I think the
moratorium is something that we could do
something a positive way to go and I
also feel that if we worked efficiently
with the moratorium then it wouldn't
even last six months we'll just get in
there and enforcement can do the job
make sure everything you know we have
some zoning in place
and you know for smoke and vape shops so
obviously not near near the schools or
something that we need to look at
definitely not like the marijuana more
you know zoning but we need to be
conscious of where we're putting them
and where they're popping up
the way I feel
so at this point in time
there's enforcement going on there
you're setting people out on a regular
weekly whatever basis and so could you
just what enforcement looks like is it
does it mean they shut them down
immediately does it mean what does
enforcement look like
they're cited and then trips to process
depending on what they're cited for
getting the
General thing we use is to try and get
people to be compliant so that they have
to file for significant abuse or other
things to do that
some places are in
widely variants in what their
approaches to doing business some are
generally compliant in some
very creative in terms of how they
approach opening a business
so yesterday
the last time we discussed is a few
attention that I can recall exactly have
come into terms of um
well I was an overreach in terms of what
we're doing or is it extreme or
something like that you're going to
mentioned it goes back to what that
really meant more Korea are considered
uh a drastic yeah so it's just and that's why there's
such a process involved for us to
implement it's not that it it shouldn't
be a process for you guys to decide
whether or not it's required here but it
is drastic it does suspend a use from
occurring within the city
um uh and uh you know the whole purpose
of it is to just preserve the status quo
from the land use planning perspective
for us to uh draft the new zoning
regulations that would be required for
those uses
this could be current you who knows
I mean what I would like to see is that
we allow as I mentioned before a lot of
the main artists team to proceed with
the enforcement that is going on bring
these businesses into compliance and if
they can be complain then they will have
to close it so I think that will take
care of the problem that we have
to make sure there's people in this
business owners realize that they need
to come in to the planning department
the zoning department and obtain
industry application and go through the
process and apply the
as everybody else
so I think that we should allow the
notice of violation that
to take or take its course
so mayor who wanted to do that um
within like within two weeks we'll be
able to have the information in terms of
whatever code enforcement is currently
working on so it's very proper within
two weeks I should turn that off sorry
would we be able to hear what code you
know get an update on what Holden
forcement is working on and where they
are with the shops that are not in
compliance
yes I don't know if we would have all of
them some of them
the standard thing is
over 30 days after we give them a notice
in some people are
very compliant they're apologetic they
didn't do the paperwork other people and
it's not only for
what we're talking about tonight in
terms of code enforcement in general
with buildings people spend time and
effort that always amazes me in terms of
Defending a flawed position where
they're not fixing up their house their
net doing the appropriate paperwork
and they will have excuses in the simple
things in the
initial administrative action to get
people into compliance when they don't
do that and we decided to take them to
court and then it becomes a discretion
and presiding judge some of the
timelines that are in place people again
will have creative scenarios that they
will articulate to the court
are not really designed to remediate the
problem or into compliance but I guess
we can give you an update
whatever you would like I'm not sure it
would be a complete one depending on the
timeline of
where we are with the different venues
under two weeks or four weeks or you can
have a special meeting
is your hand up yeah okay because it
seems like we're talking about
two different approaches leading into
different problems so my understanding
that this moratorium would
pause anyone you know
to open up the smoke shop even if they
were looking to come through the proper
channels and do everything right so I
just be clear about that but the um
advantage to that might be too because
we can kind of pause things while we
work on the enforcement of people who
are
um not in compliance with with to
business
so
but also on this tutorial mentioned
around like existing smoke shops around
their proximity to schools and
neighborhoods being being concerned I
thought you said that um
I would like to see some zoning
promoting you know not close to our you
know we we have to take care of our
youth yeah
neighbors said that you could talk on
the neighbors saying that two or three
opened up but then right so we know
about five six seven more I guess
depending on their proximity so let's
get some zoning in place so if
for going where they are now moving
forward
I want all this I want businesses here I
want businesses
to succeed I want them to open up
especially small amount of Pop shops
it's vital to our community together
so and speaking about zoning I know that
we're going to be looking at overall
zoning we talk about the Zoning for
cannabis with um
it would be cannabis and similarly we
use the word that strictly be cannabis
and I guess what I'm really asking would
smoke shops be captured in that zoning
yes the way the statute
from New York State came out with the
regulations
cannabis dispensaries retail
is required to be treated similarly to as smoke shops vape shops
tobacco retailers
from the zoning standpoint they're going
to be treated the same way
but in terms of this moratorium then
Canada shops would not be included so
the way it was
presented that's correct that was will
need to request
so as it stands the way I grew up in the
moratorium it applies to smoke shops
vape shops and tobacco consumption
businesses
and we've provided a specific language
to address the fact that due to the
preemption of a lot of the zoning
regulations and licensing requirements
by the state that will be the basis of
the inclusion of the Cannabis shops
however when we do the zoning
the Cannabis Museum
is part of those on the Amendments and
the regular career requirements at least
within the framework
to regulate
thank you
so at this one time we have to decide
whether we're moving forward with the
moratorium and you hear the steps or
whether we're what will be wanting to
wait for to hear more about enforcement
and so yeah I would like to wait for
when the man come back comes back to two
weeks for an updates on the noticeable
where are we in terms of enforcing them
at that time are we bringing back
considering the moratorium is that what
you ask them to bring back into lease no
I'm asked in front of the
regards to the enforcement
hi what's up it's helpful you can do the
referral and then still decide
you know because of the time framework
and then it's a 30-day forecast
so
did you hear that Mr YouTube Aaron can
you repeat that please
um to the extent it's helpful it's a 30-day review process with the
county you can still refer it to the
county and then decide not to perform
the moratorium just because of the
timelines involved with that uh
who reviews it
the reality it should be seven or eight
weeks out where you can do anything
so we need to
formally both of the referrals send it
to the county they've got 30 days they
send it back to you you have a two-week
cycle or three week cycle depending on
where it comes up on the calendar but
change any action and
it's a nature of this there's going to
be some discussion some people are like
some elements of it some people aren't
going to like some
have to take their consideration for the
final product the council
Mr Golden and frankly whatever referral
we make to the county they're going to
provide feedback on the moratorium
either you know yay or nay in terms of
what what where they stand but there may
be parts of that recommendation that
comes from the county that deserves
further discussion from the city council
aspects that maybe haven't been
addressed at our level but they're
looking at at their world
okay
sounds like a long process
so
do you want to still hold it for the two
weeks you're here with me yeah that's
only for two weeks
okay and let's just be clear we will
bring it back into the weeks to make
whether make a recommendation to you
first to to with the moratorium that
will be the discussion in two weeks
okay
thank you very much
so with regards to the zoning we haven't
discussed whether we're going to go
towards districting or openness yet
correct so is there a way for us to have
that segment into the conversation we
bring back
I'm sorry
so we haven't gotten to the conversation
of whether it's going to go towards the
line of districting or overlays oh
there's a big difference districting
overlays is there where you can add that
component to when we bring this back
because I imagine that's going to be a
heavy discussion as well my
recommendation would be it's a separate
item outside of the moratorium I think
it's obviously right for discussion for
the next committee meeting obviously you
know the law Department serves
um you know obviously all the
Departments of the city the mayor's
office but also the city council
so we are available to discuss you know
your thoughts because you know you are
the legislators so it's going to be a
determination that's made by you in
terms of how you want this to play out
we want to be able to provide the legal
support for you so we do recommend that
you come talk to us obviously but my
suggestion would be putting it on for
the next committee meeting to discuss
where the council people stand on how
they want the zoning to be rolled out
for this Mr Marney and I have spoken at
length about what we see how we see this
unfolding but obviously our thoughts
suggests that you're going to have to
obviously at some point as you know city
council people pass something that works
so yeah so you're asking for this to be
on in two weeks results
okay we'll do that in the meantime if
you don't mind I will come in get some
clear some clarity in the Law Department
to stop up and see you we welcome back
let's see
okay thank you
follow up on arpa contracts Mr Ferrari
ations
thank you
so
um
I sent everything to uh I had sent all
the emails from all our participants in
this arpa review to to all the council
members and what I did is I I put the
under the last column exactly you know
uh you know what we have to look at
I think as you know there's the two in
particular at the cocoa house and Scat
they're looking to change their uh
original work
uh items
and there's a few like uh
Miracle on Craig the electric city uh
Co-op Hamilton art center and where's
the other one and uh
the YWCA which are going to probably
need extensions
we did two contracts this week Maurice
Brown did a great job of helping get
this through uh we're looking to do a
few more next week too right or even
this week maybe a couple through but
we're going to bring them up to the
water department to review uh we did get
a good response for everyone and as
you've seen what we've got uh my
question is uh uh is there a committee
that's going to review these to talk
about the extensions to talk about the
change in plans
a change in funding or whatever and
that's that's what I'm not
sure okay
um so everyone got the email
members mayor about well I'm not sure
what the councilman is about the various
contracts I just want to be clear these
are all of them this is everything these
are not the cities connected anymore
outside okay yeah all right so perfect
okay that's what I wanted that's right
try to make a smaller for you and I also
wanted to put in what they did so that
way you can review them and you can
remember next time laughs
um so you had an opportunity to review
that Mr Ferrari made it clear that some
people are asking for extensions which
to me is reasonable as long as they can
do within the time frame that we needed
others are asking for change and two in
particular right are asking for change
and use of their funds correct so um
this question really is for for well
it's for us to discuss but what would
that require Mr Colden in terms of their
contracts
so some of them don't have contracts we
have those those have not been contract
however there are Appropriations that
have been made by the city council
appropriating the money for very
specific purposes as it applies to
certain organizations certainly if the
council's seeking to change the
appropriation not in terms of who's the
recipient but for the purpose
the council can certainly make an
amendment to what they previously
authorized appropriation wise or because
it was always going to come back I
believe to the council because in some
instances the council just appropriated
the money but didn't authorize a
contract yet
when they authorize the contract
um they could do so
um and change what the purpose is for
okay again we'd have to go back and I'd
have to go back and take a look at all
the resolutions there have been a couple
that have been um
uh amended to put in the time
constraints that
um you know how how long certain
entities had to come up with the
additional funding commitments uh we
were giving a year at the time time for
them to you know come up with their the
commitments to constitutional to
increase that time those were an outer
activities
wow
okay
um
so it looks like
in terms of the funding slowly that's
something we would have to say yes or no
um
and I think in our discussions we also
came up with
what the contingencies would be so in
terms of
where you where you are in terms of the workload in the department of
development
um
would you be able to in two weeks give
us like
because I think the council needs to
look at everything that's being asked to
them and so it asks council members to
review everything that's being put
before them so we can make one
collective decision uh hopefully at one
time I know that there were people that
came forward that wanted a resolution
and wanted us to you know pass this one
and then that one
um I'm not I don't think that's the best
way to do this I think that we should
try to do this the way we initially
intended which was to look at all of the
um all of the projects see how much
money there is we know that we voted to
we send 2.5 million for a project so
that's going to change that and um so my question for you is not counting the
2.5 million can you also tell us if and
how much is up there I just I I knew
you're more concerned with with the
responses right so that's what I brought
you today I did not I did not give you
the No No financials but we we do that
every every almost every week we do that
yep
horrible
but while we have to get an update and
then um talk about allocations
so as you said I sent you any I sent you
all that I had is there any anything
else that more that you need did you
want me to
simplify
and so that's what I was trying to do in
the last column there right right
um so you know have council members an
opportunity to look at this thing are
you in a position to really go through
this today do you need the two weeks to
review what's been sent to us I think
you're going to probably need time to go
oh okay there's a lot there was a lot
there okay I don't know I I kind of
tried to meet people a little bit yes Mr
Farley so quick so quick question first
of all I want to say thank you for the
work that you're doing I know at one
point there are certain people or
certain agencies that were you kind of
had to chase down and say hey that's a
crime Shake That yep we got them all yep
that's something I want to implement for
that I appreciate the work that's being
done there I was thinking um I thought
at one point I thought the Boys and
Girls Clubs generator I thought that the
county provided ended up providing the
funding for their generator I'm not sure
and now they they rescinded it they
didn't they didn't receive it yeah okay
because I was trying to improve that
point too
yes I think we all try to get that but
it did not happen it's good to be alive
yes they were on the other end of the
television yeah
if you have yes so we have to look also
when we come back in two weeks so that's
also a good extension because some of
these will
definitely extensions yes September yeah
so we have to discuss that please
I just want to mention too uh uh the
American Craig Street uh we have uh
worked with tap tap it's going to
actually go out and do the bids
themselves and that they're having a
walk through I think within the I think
it's this Friday or next Friday and I'm
absolutely sure uh for the contractors
take a look and then they're going to
move forward on the bid and that really
that's why they're going to need
extension because we'll find out you
know what the bid numbers look like to
see where we're going before we contract
with them okay
you know in terms of the the field that
I asked him to to amend their location what are we going to do
in terms of the application that was
submitted for the specific project and
now they are asking for something else
that was not submitted in that
application well so that's something
that we need to look at because we did
discuss it initially backwards already
when one agency's requested changes and
we talk about it a little bit so it's
something that we need to address and
look at any application and hopefully it
is for the others who submitted
there's two in particular that want to
change you that's the cocoa house and uh
scat yep so we're gonna have to take
into consideration whether that's
something that that we're open to but
again Mr Ferrari has forwarded all of
that information right yes and if you
miss anything let me know I'll
definitely
give it to you right additionally if you
um I know that Mr Sutherland when he was
here sent us all copies of the
applications of some place in your
emails hopefully you have that if you
wanted to be able to go back um and use
this list to look at their original
application and if you can't find it you
need it we can think Mr Brown and I we
can probably find it for you Maurice's
black you can it's a lot better on
computers to find it than I am so
it was a great job
so um
sure okay I I know if you have any
questions let me know that way I can
work on that right okay all right so any
other questions no thank you well done
good job thank you all right thank you
very much for all your work
and keep it moving I do I do so mayor um
I did send your email today can we
consider bringing in a consultant to
help us get this all done
is that something I'm sorry bringing in
we're getting it done we're doing some
hiring and
we're hiring to
we're looking at hiring where hopefully
everything works out for us we're going
to fill some positions and bring people
in uh with part of part of their
positions might be doing that
okay let us know more about that oh yeah
okay and we should do as soon as
possible I appreciate that thank you very much
all right item number four in ordinance
uh pursuant to section 101.
abandoning section a portion of Larch
Street
we were as very close at the last
council meeting yeah so under the city
code we need 75
approval to abandon uh City street we
had five Council people present we
needed six to vote in favor of it so
bring it back to committee to send back
to the council for consideration of that
ordinance
so we really don't need to take any
action because we already moved it out
of committee at this point yes yeah it's
making sure everybody's aware of why
it's going to go back
um you know as far as I know there was
no opposition
um to the ordinance of the public or
internally it's just a matter of uh
voting it so if that's a council meeting
our about six people then we're going to
be in the same boat again
okay the last three items I've been on
the agenda are for executive session
so I'll make a motion uh ask for a
motion to do an executive session excuse
me ask a motion too wait wait I have I'd
like to ask promotions for reset so
Claims can call off order so second
all's in favor bye would you like to
call the warrior claims committee we
have one item on the agenda tonight
it'll be discussed in detective session
may you please have a motion to answer
executives