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meeting for Monday August 21st 2023

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first committee it's Finance Mr Mutual

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thank you I'd like to follow the finance

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committee to order at the foresight of

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this update 20 23 24 Action Plan

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application

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episodes

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I'm here for the

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23-24 annual action plan uh to allocate

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2 million 102

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000.44 through the development block

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grant funds and 187 000 and three

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dollars to an emergency solution Grant

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funds and finally 1 million

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yeah I wanted to ask a question about

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the programming that it's supposed to

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take place in Jerry Royale

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as well but we allocate money today can

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you speak to that that was forward last

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year you know this is where the future

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going forward and then it took place in

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March report and they deal with Willie D

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he's sending me videos of polls so if

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they did not have programming and a jury

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reveal but they did have a different

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department thank you

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any other questions

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second all in favor all right thank you

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the next item is

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compliance policy Mr Ferrari

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foreign

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just recently we're about to close on

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the EFC loans for uh the race car

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treating plant and uh

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North Ferry Street Pump Station and one

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of the requirements of from New York

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state is for us to have a

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by adjusting uh post Assurance

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compliance policy which I had thought

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that our procedure policy was the same

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according to our bond Council there was

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it so we got together with our Obama

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Council of her and I we hammered out a

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post issuance compliance and policy

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which is uh within your books there this uh policy uh is uh issued and uh is

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for uh you know tax tax exempt or tax

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advantage bases in this part of the uh

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Internal Revenue code 1986. so this

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would help the city is connecting put us

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in you know complete compliance with

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that

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so we're asking the city council adopt

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that policy

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any questions

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may have one more show

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second all in favor

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thank you very much the next item is

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increasing the maximum income for New

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York real property tax exemption Mr

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Williams thank you uh so in 2022 the New

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York State descent and assembly passing

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Amendment

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adjusting the maximum amount for

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individuals needing this criteria based

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on some information that I received I

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noticed that within the city we have not

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adjusted that income statute since 2009

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I think based on some of the

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quality of life they should be

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recognized nationally I think that is a

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big

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Gap that is now placed at our

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responsibility to adjust these threat

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for these individuals within our

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community so with us today we do have

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Miss McElroy who I imagine this is more

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for the background income provides some

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better context to the council but based

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on myself I would definitely like to see

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this maximized and I definitely when we

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talk about vulnerable or populations of

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that are disadvantaged I think it's our

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responsibility as a city to make sure we

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present sufficient resources to assist

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them and uh without further ado

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let's go

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um

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part of this

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happened because of covet so for the

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last couple of years we haven't been

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um the state gave us the opportunity to

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extend the exemption for folks so that

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they didn't have to come in and file

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their paperwork so we look at two years

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back income so we're talking about the

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last time we actually looked at folks

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income was 2018 so that this year was

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the first year we had to do that again

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and what happened was increases there

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was a big increase in Social Security

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for a lot of folks in 2021 so now

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looking at this year we would have

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looked at the 2021 income

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and it kicked a lot of people off the

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exemption because if you've seen the

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sliding scale that's in the city code

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there's just a very very small amount

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could kick somebody off of having this

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exemption or even we've had people go

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from having 50 exemption to having no

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exemption at all and that's a big deal

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if you're on fixed income a lot of

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people don't

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you know they don't they don't plan for

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that they don't know that that's going

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to happen so we haven't raised this the sliding scale at all since 2009 last

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year the state gave local

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municipalities the opportunity to pick

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her up we gave municipalities the

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opportunity to do a local law in order

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to increase the sliding scale I'm not

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sure that it's

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the best idea for us to go all the way

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to to 50 000 as the the

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um I mean it gives us the opportunity to

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do that but that's a pretty big

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um chunk of people I think that would be

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included in it it may affect the city

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financially but there's got to be some

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Midway Point um that we can you know

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that we can find so that those people

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that were kicked off because of an

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increase in Social Security might be

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able to then take advantage of the

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exemption again

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I'm not sure if there's any questions

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I'm more than happy to answer

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so just like um overall

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I'm probably a good question to answer

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that do you have any idea of what what

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city did go to America you know

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do you know what that impact my

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reflective saving dollars

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um it's it's hard to say because of

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um because we don't know what Phil's

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income is you know it's they have to if

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this is an exemption that has to be

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renewed every year and they have to

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provide us with their federal income tax

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return and we calculate income a little

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differently than the IRS does so it's

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not just the bottom line number

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but so in that way it's hard to predict

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I would say you know if we went to the

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maximum amount of 50 000 that would add

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a lot more people than than had been

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able to take advantage of it before but

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if you found some number that you know

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there may be a way I'm not sure how

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other municipalities have done this some

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have adopted this and some haven't

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so I can talk to some other assessors

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accessory if there was a way that they

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were able to

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somehow hedge of that as to you know

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where to set that limit but it I know we

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did lose a lot of people and I know

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there were a lot of people that

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it drops significantly so that say they

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had 50 well a lot of you know people I

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saw had 10 or 15 percent and even that

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is a lot to you know it's a lot in taxes

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to not be prepared to have to um

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cover I guess so there may be some ways to do

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it to get a better idea I'm just not

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quite sure

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thank you Mr chairman

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appreciate Mr Williams the council has

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to look at at least making sure it's

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keeping up with inflation and not only

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talks about people who are in this place

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does

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normal increments that will happen

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within Social Security or other income

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that they may have had my understanding

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is that some of those upper limits were

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really designed for places on Long

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Island

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Westchester County New York City where

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you have

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higher levels of just overall affluence

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so that

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it might not be totally applicable to

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Schenectady but again it's one of those

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things where as well comes out it's hard

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to know what the exact number you're

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going to bring in so by doing

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what's appropriate to

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hold people harmless and provide some

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benefit is there you don't want to shift

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it so you precipitate a tax increase

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across the board for everybody else but

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how do you again

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general rule uses to adjust it for

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inflation it would take a little bit of

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some number and

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we have a little bit of time because

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whatever the council does in this

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wouldn't take effect until

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2024 until it'll be in the next actual

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year for collecting taxes

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but I'm sorry I think there's definitely

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ways I I was thinking that we could take

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a look at the folks who have actually

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lost the exemption just to see because

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it's really we'd have to pull every file

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one by one and look at the income tax

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returns and the people who which is not

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a it's not a big deal I mean it's

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something we can absolutely do we can

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get a sense of you know what's the

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percentage that would make sense to go

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off for some of those people who were

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solidly in the program before

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because of an increase in Social

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Security they might have gotten bummed

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off of it

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so if we wanted to take some action what

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would it require in terms you said you

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mentioned local law so we had to change

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local law yeah we'd have to update this

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Andrew mentioned that we'd have to do

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our public hearing

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currently it's codified in the city code

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at section 234-1

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so if we would be amending that it would

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have to be a call for a public hearing

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and then the council would have to pick

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afternoon to amendments in the code

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so my suggestion the council is inclined

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to do that take a look at that section I

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can email it out tomorrow to the city

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clerk and she can pass it along with

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public council members that section of

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the code to see how it's currently

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written see what the scheme is the

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exceptions because there are some

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exceptions uh baked within that section

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of the code so you can take a look at it

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and see what changes if any and how you

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may want it to be structured

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do you think um because it seems like

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this won't be taking me off it wouldn't

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be inactive right away so

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what's a reasonable amount of time you

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think that maybe uh

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kind of pull those individual files to

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try to give us a better idea

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um so we're not you know

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um you know I mean we've got we've got

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lots of honestly we don't send our

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renewal notices out until October over

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and applications are not due back into

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March 1st of next year so it you know I

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mean it's there's there's lots of time

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to be able to do this it's just a matter

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of like how soon you all you know this

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is something that when we send out our

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notices to people for Renewal or yeah we

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can put something in the newspaper in

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October around the time that we send

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that so that it you know it would prompt

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people to then come in in something you

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know with their income if something's

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changed so you know maybe some time

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between now and

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October

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we could certainly pull files and take a

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look it's just a matter of figuring out

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who didn't get the exemption this year

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and had it last year

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entirely easy to do with our systems

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so who didn't get it last year to this

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year but they're raising the limit

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there'd be a lot more that would apply

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right yeah it's not I don't know that

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for a fact but I mean it would make

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sense

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that follows and I agree with Mr

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Williams I mean you know it needs to be

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looked at but then listening to the

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mayor absolutely yes we don't want to

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cost

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every taxpayer and increase so agreed

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yeah

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so I I will start working on that

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tomorrow we'll start pulling files and

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taking all good stuff and

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figure out you know there's what what

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might be a decent amount to raise it so

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that you're not opening it down before

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everybody but at the same time you're

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being able to pull people back into it

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who had already been you know used

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budgeting for having their taxes

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cool

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um so Mr Williams is is that this is

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just seniors and disabled would

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low-income or veterans or anything fall

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into that bill I don't know

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yeah no it's just this just covers um so

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this sliding scale and the income limit

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just covers for the RP 467 which is for

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folks who are over 65 and fall below

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that income and then the disabled thank

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you so disable them low income is what

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sure goes hand in hand veterans are

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there other categories of inceptions

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yes veterans we don't look we only the

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only thing we look at for veterans is

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they're discharge papers they don't it

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doesn't incoming online thank you

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just having this brought back and you

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said how much time do you think you need

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to get that information that's it we'll

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take a couple of weeks now and I'll let

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you know when we have a pretty good

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looking list we'll try to look at

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everybody if we pull we pull all the

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files and people who didn't get the

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exemptions this year

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um

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those folders it's just a matter of

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making sure we put that data down in the

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paper so you guys can see it so I'd say

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without burning her office uh definitely

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looking at their four weeks

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just like those four weeks

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and Mr Coleen you're going to email that

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section of the

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bus yes

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all right so we're friends back in four

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weeks

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thank you thank you to everyone thank

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you any other businesses for finance

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second all in favor thank you I'd like

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to call to order City development of

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planning we have eight items on the

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agenda uh the first is discussion of the

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city's annual ms4 request for 2023.

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Chris Long

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you're not this one

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hello again uh yes uh Chris Wallen he's

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not available to come today uh but he

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left me

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uh with Emma sport I'm really not

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prepared to have a discussion but just

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let me tell you what it's a little bit

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about the ms4 is the municipal's uh

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separate storm sore system ms4 fluores's

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and what that is is that and the misfied

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electricity is Schenectady

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um our storm server system is not

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connected with our sanitary system

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through separate systems and we'll with

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this uh report does that we've sent to

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the state uh let us let the state know

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that all our

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sanatory storm serves were inspected and

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they're all efficient and they're in

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good shape

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so that's basically what that is when

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Chris Wallen returns uh from uh wherever

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he is he'll be he'll be sending this to

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the state

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to find to have it filed

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is this a discussion or we need to pass

381
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something oh you need to pass

382
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yeah and you said a discussion is I'm

383
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not really able to discuss it uh I think

384
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you just want to let you know that the

385
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report was complete uh you have a copy

386
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of the report and you need this is a

387
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report you send it to the state

388
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do you know when it's due to the states

389
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uh it's I this is a a month or two later

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than usual but it's due to the same uh

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where are we now on at the end of

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September so we have an opportunity

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um to hear any questions to have this

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year

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so he said it's not due until the end of

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September for sure that's cool are you

397
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sure that no I'm not 100 sure I was I

398
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was told the end of the month I don't

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know I'm sure it was ended this month or

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under September the month of September

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power

402
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if you have any questions

403
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um then I would suggest emailing them

404
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both to Mr Wallen and to the clerk so

405
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everybody

406
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um can see the questions and then if for

407
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some reason a question comes up with it

408
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doesn't move forward you can pull it but

409
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otherwise all right very good thank you

410
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very much because I appreciate that and

411
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thank you

412
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second all in favor

413
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okay uh award bin contract for

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transportation transfer you selection

415
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yes is that you as well yeah uh I'm

416
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taking Paul's Place uh we just had a bid

417
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for our annual sludge right now we are

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paying 250 for 215 per ton which we can

419
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do about 10 000 tons annually we had a

420
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recent bid our lowest bid came in at

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155s and this is supposed this is going

422
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to be starting uh as soon as possible I

423
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think the contract's a faction if you

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get that in the other bids came in at

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over 179 179 even above so I think we

426
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made it out good

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and then

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a bit and extracted down to 255 the

429
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overall costs have been dramatically

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increasing

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for

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disposal of the sludge wastewater

433
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treatment and strength do we know mayor

434
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what those into where the interim amount

435
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was before

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they in the amount she talked about like

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the 215 versus the 155

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80 a ton it's under 100 so it was a

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Market a price

440
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you compare to other

441
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municipalities that's a competitive

442
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number okay it's not anything that

443
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I like to bring into you but that's the

444
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reality of

445
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people today

446
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if any questions

447
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and I could be mistaken by

448
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thoughts

449
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um

450
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it was mentioning something uh on the

451
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network I'm going to keep this calls for

452
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us to purchase some things with the city

453
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do you remember what I'm talking about

454
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right I think he has been talking about

455
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the digesters

456
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other things which are major in

457
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capitalism

458
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enables to produce some of the overall

459
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costs but there was some projected cost

460
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savings over a period of time that they

461
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would be actually paid for themselves

462
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but yeah and I was switching up those

463
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numbers now I just think of something

464
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but you know obviously one of the things

465
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is that you know the cost of building

466
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some of the things that we're talking

467
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about is in the tens of millions of

468
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dollars and that is that is just the

469
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estimated price we don't know if we

470
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dropped a bit that's going to be so

471
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but it's something we're having the back

472
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of our mind for digesters and dryers

473
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we're talking future future alcohol

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constitutions you know months years I

475
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would say years I cannot say multi-year

476
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under takeoffs

477
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we're talking tens of millions of

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dollars

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[Applause]

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a second all the favor all right thank

481
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you very much all right thank you Mr

482
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Ferrari

483
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the next item on the agenda is a

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reminder about the six-month moratorium

485
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on the submission processing of building

486
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permits for certificates of advocacy for

487
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smoke shops vape shops and tobacco and

488
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baby consumption businesses uh the

489
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public hearing was on August 17th

490
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seven August 7 sorry

491
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um so we did have people come to public

492
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hearing

493
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um the tobacco-free uh Coalition I think

494
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with the speakers and based on the

495
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comments that they made and the comments

496
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that were made by others that I believe

497
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they invited they were under the

498
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impression that what this would do is

499
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choose for us to close

500
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um current shops that are open so I I

501
00:22:05,700 --> 00:22:08,039
didn't get a chance to speak to Mr I

502
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wanted to to explain that that's not

503
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what this moratorium is about

504
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so I think they had that you know so

505
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other than that

506
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there were no other speakers that came

507
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to um

508
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to speak on about this

509
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so at this point in time we as the

510
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council have to

511
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decide whether we'll move forward with

512
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this and then also Mr Holden can you

513
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explain further what would need to

514
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happen to the council take steps sure

515
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obviously Mr Hardy's been working quite

516
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a bit

517
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um

518
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specific questions if the council is

519
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inclined to move ahead with this it

520
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needs to be referred to

521
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the County Planning is there any

522
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commission levels is the planning

523
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department if you like Mr Marney to

524
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answer specific questions about next

525
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steps is obviously here

526
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any questions anyone no okay all right

527
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yes I'd like to hear you know moving

528
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forward

529
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I'd like to hear moving forward what we

530
00:23:12,120 --> 00:23:14,220
would need to do for Mr Martin okay Mr

531
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Martin do you have questions

532
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specifically just generally okay

533
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,220
well so uh in order to move forward uh

534
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the law doesn't require a referral of

535
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the moratorium at the County Planning

536
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agency uh so we would need a motion at

537
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least council meeting to do that and to

538
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resolve to move I saw

539
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we would then send it over in the chair

540
00:23:41,460 --> 00:23:42,900
of the middle County Planning Commission

541
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during the County Planning agency is a

542
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great Yellen

543
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they they can be the period I think of

544
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up to 30 days to review the moratorium

545
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and when they send back their findings

546
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support the moratorium they can go back

547
00:23:55,500 --> 00:23:58,020
to council for both to adopt it if they

548
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do not support it and still can go back

549
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to the council to adopt it but we will

550
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require a super majority

551
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thank you

552
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any other questions

553
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:20,700
and so I would guess I know we discussed

554
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this a lot so in terms of the

555
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enforcement that the mayor and the staff

556
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is part of you doing

557
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and we're glad to get one of these on

558
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the mayor with regards to the updates so

559
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hopefully uh this weekend we can get an

560
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update sometime this week that's where

561
00:24:36,900 --> 00:24:39,320
they are in terms of the continued

562
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:50,710
reinforcement of the NCAA Center

563
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:52,860
any of the

564
00:24:52,860 --> 00:24:55,140
council members get complaints or

565
00:24:55,140 --> 00:24:57,299
inquiries from the public or questions

566
00:24:57,299 --> 00:25:11,230
that are raised feel free to foreign

567
00:25:11,240 --> 00:25:14,159
I mean enforcement is obviously the

568
00:25:14,159 --> 00:25:16,440
route that we're going but if we put a

569
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:18,000
moratorium on there then we obviously

570
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:19,620
know if illegal ones for popping up

571
00:25:19,620 --> 00:25:21,120
within the city because if they're

572
00:25:21,120 --> 00:25:22,559
popping up you know they're not supposed

573
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:24,419
to be at that point so that could

574
00:25:24,419 --> 00:25:26,580
actually helps Naim and his whole crew

575
00:25:26,580 --> 00:25:29,279
kind of Code Enforcement you know

576
00:25:29,279 --> 00:25:31,020
realize that

577
00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:32,760
um again people in the neighborhoods and

578
00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:35,220
I'd be happy to send them on to

579
00:25:35,220 --> 00:25:38,760
um to the mayor to Naim about um

580
00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:42,960
foreign within a block again when they

581
00:25:42,960 --> 00:25:47,640
with the council came to speak on Monday

582
00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:52,679
I was the tobacco Council I was you know

583
00:25:52,679 --> 00:25:54,799
I got the impression that they were

584
00:25:54,799 --> 00:25:56,820
definitely concerned with the smoke

585
00:25:56,820 --> 00:25:58,919
shops and The Vaping but also with

586
00:25:58,919 --> 00:26:00,720
cigarette sales being so close to

587
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,340
schools and things which is something

588
00:26:02,340 --> 00:26:05,100
you know every their store has or

589
00:26:05,100 --> 00:26:07,080
something like that so that that's a

590
00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:09,120
separate issue I think but

591
00:26:09,120 --> 00:26:10,980
um you know again with the vaping out

592
00:26:10,980 --> 00:26:13,159
there and our youth being so

593
00:26:13,159 --> 00:26:16,740
vulnerable to the fancy glitches and

594
00:26:16,740 --> 00:26:19,200
smoke flavors and things like that I

595
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,620
think we need to be really conscious of

596
00:26:22,620 --> 00:26:24,840
especially maybe illegal ones popping up

597
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,120
not asking for proper ID obviously for

598
00:26:27,120 --> 00:26:28,799
the top so I think I think the

599
00:26:28,799 --> 00:26:31,140
moratorium is something that we could do

600
00:26:31,140 --> 00:26:34,140
something a positive way to go and I

601
00:26:34,140 --> 00:26:37,080
also feel that if we worked efficiently

602
00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:39,360
with the moratorium then it wouldn't

603
00:26:39,360 --> 00:26:41,100
even last six months we'll just get in

604
00:26:41,100 --> 00:26:42,659
there and enforcement can do the job

605
00:26:42,659 --> 00:26:44,340
make sure everything you know we have

606
00:26:44,340 --> 00:26:46,860
some zoning in place

607
00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:50,900
and you know for smoke and vape shops so

608
00:26:50,900 --> 00:26:53,520
obviously not near near the schools or

609
00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:54,600
something that we need to look at

610
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:57,000
definitely not like the marijuana more

611
00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,640
you know zoning but we need to be

612
00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:00,960
conscious of where we're putting them

613
00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:02,880
and where they're popping up

614
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:10,010
the way I feel

615
00:27:10,020 --> 00:27:13,320
so at this point in time

616
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,000
there's enforcement going on there

617
00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,640
you're setting people out on a regular

618
00:27:17,640 --> 00:27:20,460
weekly whatever basis and so could you

619
00:27:20,460 --> 00:27:22,260
just what enforcement looks like is it

620
00:27:22,260 --> 00:27:23,340
does it mean they shut them down

621
00:27:23,340 --> 00:27:24,779
immediately does it mean what does

622
00:27:24,779 --> 00:27:26,640
enforcement look like

623
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:29,760
they're cited and then trips to process

624
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,820
depending on what they're cited for

625
00:27:31,820 --> 00:27:34,440
getting the

626
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,900
General thing we use is to try and get

627
00:27:36,900 --> 00:27:39,840
people to be compliant so that they have

628
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:43,080
to file for significant abuse or other

629
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,299
things to do that

630
00:27:45,299 --> 00:27:49,520
some places are in

631
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:52,640
widely variants in what their

632
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,860
approaches to doing business some are

633
00:27:55,860 --> 00:27:58,820
generally compliant in some

634
00:27:58,820 --> 00:28:01,679
very creative in terms of how they

635
00:28:01,679 --> 00:28:07,430
approach opening a business

636
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,580
so yesterday

637
00:28:10,580 --> 00:28:13,620
the last time we discussed is a few

638
00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:17,039
attention that I can recall exactly have

639
00:28:17,039 --> 00:28:20,690
come into terms of um

640
00:28:20,700 --> 00:28:23,279
well I was an overreach in terms of what

641
00:28:23,279 --> 00:28:25,919
we're doing or is it extreme or

642
00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:26,640
something like that you're going to

643
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,799
mentioned it goes back to what that

644
00:28:28,799 --> 00:28:31,260
really meant more Korea are considered

645
00:28:31,260 --> 00:28:36,840
uh a drastic yeah so it's just and that's why there's

646
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:38,520
such a process involved for us to

647
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,580
implement it's not that it it shouldn't

648
00:28:41,580 --> 00:28:43,440
be a process for you guys to decide

649
00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,419
whether or not it's required here but it

650
00:28:45,419 --> 00:28:47,940
is drastic it does suspend a use from

651
00:28:47,940 --> 00:28:50,220
occurring within the city

652
00:28:50,220 --> 00:28:53,159
um uh and uh you know the whole purpose

653
00:28:53,159 --> 00:28:55,440
of it is to just preserve the status quo

654
00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,360
from the land use planning perspective

655
00:28:57,360 --> 00:29:00,779
for us to uh draft the new zoning

656
00:29:00,779 --> 00:29:03,539
regulations that would be required for

657
00:29:03,539 --> 00:29:05,990
those uses

658
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:20,590
this could be current you who knows

659
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,220
I mean what I would like to see is that

660
00:29:23,220 --> 00:29:25,500
we allow as I mentioned before a lot of

661
00:29:25,500 --> 00:29:27,659
the main artists team to proceed with

662
00:29:27,659 --> 00:29:29,700
the enforcement that is going on bring

663
00:29:29,700 --> 00:29:31,320
these businesses into compliance and if

664
00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600
they can be complain then they will have

665
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,520
to close it so I think that will take

666
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,279
care of the problem that we have

667
00:29:38,279 --> 00:29:39,779
to make sure there's people in this

668
00:29:39,779 --> 00:29:41,820
business owners realize that they need

669
00:29:41,820 --> 00:29:43,559
to come in to the planning department

670
00:29:43,559 --> 00:29:45,779
the zoning department and obtain

671
00:29:45,779 --> 00:29:48,240
industry application and go through the

672
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:50,640
process and apply the

673
00:29:50,640 --> 00:29:52,200
as everybody else

674
00:29:52,200 --> 00:29:54,120
so I think that we should allow the

675
00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:56,580
notice of violation that

676
00:29:56,580 --> 00:30:01,610
to take or take its course

677
00:30:01,620 --> 00:30:05,340
so mayor who wanted to do that um

678
00:30:05,340 --> 00:30:07,740
within like within two weeks we'll be

679
00:30:07,740 --> 00:30:09,899
able to have the information in terms of

680
00:30:09,899 --> 00:30:11,640
whatever code enforcement is currently

681
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:14,159
working on so it's very proper within

682
00:30:14,159 --> 00:30:16,320
two weeks I should turn that off sorry

683
00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:19,679
would we be able to hear what code you

684
00:30:19,679 --> 00:30:21,000
know get an update on what Holden

685
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:22,380
forcement is working on and where they

686
00:30:22,380 --> 00:30:24,840
are with the shops that are not in

687
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,059
compliance

688
00:30:27,059 --> 00:30:30,600
yes I don't know if we would have all of

689
00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,460
them some of them

690
00:30:32,460 --> 00:30:35,480
the standard thing is

691
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:39,419
over 30 days after we give them a notice

692
00:30:39,419 --> 00:30:42,720
in some people are

693
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,899
very compliant they're apologetic they

694
00:30:45,899 --> 00:30:48,720
didn't do the paperwork other people and

695
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,580
it's not only for

696
00:30:50,580 --> 00:30:53,460
what we're talking about tonight in

697
00:30:53,460 --> 00:30:55,320
terms of code enforcement in general

698
00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,960
with buildings people spend time and

699
00:30:57,960 --> 00:31:01,020
effort that always amazes me in terms of

700
00:31:01,020 --> 00:31:03,419
Defending a flawed position where

701
00:31:03,419 --> 00:31:06,299
they're not fixing up their house their

702
00:31:06,299 --> 00:31:09,480
net doing the appropriate paperwork

703
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:13,679
and they will have excuses in the simple

704
00:31:13,679 --> 00:31:16,669
things in the

705
00:31:16,679 --> 00:31:19,320
initial administrative action to get

706
00:31:19,320 --> 00:31:21,480
people into compliance when they don't

707
00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,419
do that and we decided to take them to

708
00:31:24,419 --> 00:31:27,840
court and then it becomes a discretion

709
00:31:27,840 --> 00:31:29,700
and presiding judge some of the

710
00:31:29,700 --> 00:31:32,760
timelines that are in place people again

711
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:36,539
will have creative scenarios that they

712
00:31:36,539 --> 00:31:39,960
will articulate to the court

713
00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:43,140
are not really designed to remediate the

714
00:31:43,140 --> 00:31:45,720
problem or into compliance but I guess

715
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:47,640
we can give you an update

716
00:31:47,640 --> 00:31:50,279
whatever you would like I'm not sure it

717
00:31:50,279 --> 00:31:52,260
would be a complete one depending on the

718
00:31:52,260 --> 00:31:55,970
timeline of

719
00:31:55,980 --> 00:32:00,980
where we are with the different venues

720
00:32:00,980 --> 00:32:04,740
under two weeks or four weeks or you can

721
00:32:04,740 --> 00:32:08,450
have a special meeting

722
00:32:08,460 --> 00:32:11,460
is your hand up yeah okay because it

723
00:32:11,460 --> 00:32:13,380
seems like we're talking about

724
00:32:13,380 --> 00:32:16,140
two different approaches leading into

725
00:32:16,140 --> 00:32:18,840
different problems so my understanding

726
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,080
that this moratorium would

727
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,500
pause anyone you know

728
00:32:25,500 --> 00:32:28,260
to open up the smoke shop even if they

729
00:32:28,260 --> 00:32:30,179
were looking to come through the proper

730
00:32:30,179 --> 00:32:33,179
channels and do everything right so I

731
00:32:33,179 --> 00:32:35,899
just be clear about that but the um

732
00:32:35,899 --> 00:32:38,940
advantage to that might be too because

733
00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:41,700
we can kind of pause things while we

734
00:32:41,700 --> 00:32:43,740
work on the enforcement of people who

735
00:32:43,740 --> 00:32:45,179
are

736
00:32:45,179 --> 00:32:48,600
um not in compliance with with to

737
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:49,980
business

738
00:32:49,980 --> 00:32:51,600
so

739
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,460
but also on this tutorial mentioned

740
00:32:53,460 --> 00:32:56,520
around like existing smoke shops around

741
00:32:56,520 --> 00:32:58,740
their proximity to schools and

742
00:32:58,740 --> 00:33:01,440
neighborhoods being being concerned I

743
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:03,919
thought you said that um

744
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:07,440
I would like to see some zoning

745
00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,419
promoting you know not close to our you

746
00:33:09,419 --> 00:33:10,980
know we we have to take care of our

747
00:33:10,980 --> 00:33:13,039
youth yeah

748
00:33:13,039 --> 00:33:15,120
neighbors said that you could talk on

749
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:16,140
the neighbors saying that two or three

750
00:33:16,140 --> 00:33:18,299
opened up but then right so we know

751
00:33:18,299 --> 00:33:20,600
about five six seven more I guess

752
00:33:20,600 --> 00:33:23,100
depending on their proximity so let's

753
00:33:23,100 --> 00:33:25,980
get some zoning in place so if

754
00:33:25,980 --> 00:33:28,440
for going where they are now moving

755
00:33:28,440 --> 00:33:30,240
forward

756
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:32,640
I want all this I want businesses here I

757
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:33,779
want businesses

758
00:33:33,779 --> 00:33:35,700
to succeed I want them to open up

759
00:33:35,700 --> 00:33:37,919
especially small amount of Pop shops

760
00:33:37,919 --> 00:33:42,409
it's vital to our community together

761
00:33:42,419 --> 00:33:44,940
so and speaking about zoning I know that

762
00:33:44,940 --> 00:33:46,919
we're going to be looking at overall

763
00:33:46,919 --> 00:33:48,360
zoning we talk about the Zoning for

764
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,820
cannabis with um

765
00:33:50,820 --> 00:33:52,860
it would be cannabis and similarly we

766
00:33:52,860 --> 00:33:54,419
use the word that strictly be cannabis

767
00:33:54,419 --> 00:33:56,159
and I guess what I'm really asking would

768
00:33:56,159 --> 00:33:58,140
smoke shops be captured in that zoning

769
00:33:58,140 --> 00:34:00,799
yes the way the statute

770
00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:03,000
from New York State came out with the

771
00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,100
regulations

772
00:34:05,100 --> 00:34:08,399
cannabis dispensaries retail

773
00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:13,980
is required to be treated similarly to as smoke shops vape shops

774
00:34:13,980 --> 00:34:17,520
tobacco retailers

775
00:34:17,520 --> 00:34:19,080
from the zoning standpoint they're going

776
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:24,349
to be treated the same way

777
00:34:24,359 --> 00:34:26,280
but in terms of this moratorium then

778
00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:28,800
Canada shops would not be included so

779
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:30,839
the way it was

780
00:34:30,839 --> 00:34:34,740
presented that's correct that was will

781
00:34:34,740 --> 00:34:38,810
need to request

782
00:34:38,820 --> 00:34:42,119
so as it stands the way I grew up in the

783
00:34:42,119 --> 00:34:44,639
moratorium it applies to smoke shops

784
00:34:44,639 --> 00:34:48,000
vape shops and tobacco consumption

785
00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:50,639
businesses

786
00:34:50,639 --> 00:34:54,240
and we've provided a specific language

787
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,639
to address the fact that due to the

788
00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:58,859
preemption of a lot of the zoning

789
00:34:58,859 --> 00:35:00,540
regulations and licensing requirements

790
00:35:00,540 --> 00:35:03,119
by the state that will be the basis of

791
00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:11,390
the inclusion of the Cannabis shops

792
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:14,760
however when we do the zoning

793
00:35:14,760 --> 00:35:16,560
the Cannabis Museum

794
00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,140
is part of those on the Amendments and

795
00:35:19,140 --> 00:35:20,820
the regular career requirements at least

796
00:35:20,820 --> 00:35:23,280
within the framework

797
00:35:23,280 --> 00:35:26,390
to regulate

798
00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:30,829
thank you

799
00:35:30,839 --> 00:35:33,119
so at this one time we have to decide

800
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:34,380
whether we're moving forward with the

801
00:35:34,380 --> 00:35:36,240
moratorium and you hear the steps or

802
00:35:36,240 --> 00:35:39,060
whether we're what will be wanting to

803
00:35:39,060 --> 00:35:40,740
wait for to hear more about enforcement

804
00:35:40,740 --> 00:35:43,440
and so yeah I would like to wait for

805
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:46,260
when the man come back comes back to two

806
00:35:46,260 --> 00:35:49,760
weeks for an updates on the noticeable

807
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:53,540
where are we in terms of enforcing them

808
00:35:53,540 --> 00:35:56,599
at that time are we bringing back

809
00:35:56,599 --> 00:35:58,560
considering the moratorium is that what

810
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:03,470
you ask them to bring back into lease no

811
00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:05,940
I'm asked in front of the

812
00:36:05,940 --> 00:36:08,520
regards to the enforcement

813
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:12,119
hi what's up it's helpful you can do the

814
00:36:12,119 --> 00:36:16,630
referral and then still decide

815
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,560
you know because of the time framework

816
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,750
and then it's a 30-day forecast

817
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:25,140
so

818
00:36:25,140 --> 00:36:27,599
did you hear that Mr YouTube Aaron can

819
00:36:27,599 --> 00:36:29,220
you repeat that please

820
00:36:29,220 --> 00:36:32,940
um to the extent it's helpful it's a 30-day review process with the

821
00:36:32,940 --> 00:36:34,980
county you can still refer it to the

822
00:36:34,980 --> 00:36:36,599
county and then decide not to perform

823
00:36:36,599 --> 00:36:39,300
the moratorium just because of the

824
00:36:39,300 --> 00:36:48,910
timelines involved with that uh

825
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,240
who reviews it

826
00:36:51,240 --> 00:36:53,099
the reality it should be seven or eight

827
00:36:53,099 --> 00:36:55,079
weeks out where you can do anything

828
00:36:55,079 --> 00:36:56,460
so we need to

829
00:36:56,460 --> 00:36:58,859
formally both of the referrals send it

830
00:36:58,859 --> 00:37:01,079
to the county they've got 30 days they

831
00:37:01,079 --> 00:37:04,680
send it back to you you have a two-week

832
00:37:04,680 --> 00:37:06,480
cycle or three week cycle depending on

833
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,300
where it comes up on the calendar but

834
00:37:09,300 --> 00:37:13,140
change any action and

835
00:37:13,140 --> 00:37:14,700
it's a nature of this there's going to

836
00:37:14,700 --> 00:37:16,380
be some discussion some people are like

837
00:37:16,380 --> 00:37:18,359
some elements of it some people aren't

838
00:37:18,359 --> 00:37:19,680
going to like some

839
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,200
have to take their consideration for the

840
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:29,210
final product the council

841
00:37:29,220 --> 00:37:31,859
Mr Golden and frankly whatever referral

842
00:37:31,859 --> 00:37:33,960
we make to the county they're going to

843
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:36,180
provide feedback on the moratorium

844
00:37:36,180 --> 00:37:38,220
either you know yay or nay in terms of

845
00:37:38,220 --> 00:37:40,980
what what where they stand but there may

846
00:37:40,980 --> 00:37:43,020
be parts of that recommendation that

847
00:37:43,020 --> 00:37:44,700
comes from the county that deserves

848
00:37:44,700 --> 00:37:47,480
further discussion from the city council

849
00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,680
aspects that maybe haven't been

850
00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,680
addressed at our level but they're

851
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,859
looking at at their world

852
00:37:55,859 --> 00:37:57,540
okay

853
00:37:57,540 --> 00:38:01,010
sounds like a long process

854
00:38:01,020 --> 00:38:02,640
so

855
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,859
do you want to still hold it for the two

856
00:38:04,859 --> 00:38:07,320
weeks you're here with me yeah that's

857
00:38:07,320 --> 00:38:11,270
only for two weeks

858
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,800
okay and let's just be clear we will

859
00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:15,780
bring it back into the weeks to make

860
00:38:15,780 --> 00:38:17,820
whether make a recommendation to you

861
00:38:17,820 --> 00:38:20,640
first to to with the moratorium that

862
00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:26,150
will be the discussion in two weeks

863
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,720
okay

864
00:38:27,720 --> 00:38:35,030
thank you very much

865
00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:39,060
so with regards to the zoning we haven't

866
00:38:39,060 --> 00:38:40,260
discussed whether we're going to go

867
00:38:40,260 --> 00:38:42,180
towards districting or openness yet

868
00:38:42,180 --> 00:38:44,280
correct so is there a way for us to have

869
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,140
that segment into the conversation we

870
00:38:46,140 --> 00:38:47,760
bring back

871
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:53,650
I'm sorry

872
00:38:53,660 --> 00:38:56,099
so we haven't gotten to the conversation

873
00:38:56,099 --> 00:38:58,560
of whether it's going to go towards the

874
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,960
line of districting or overlays oh

875
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:02,280
there's a big difference districting

876
00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:03,900
overlays is there where you can add that

877
00:39:03,900 --> 00:39:05,520
component to when we bring this back

878
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:06,960
because I imagine that's going to be a

879
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,420
heavy discussion as well my

880
00:39:09,420 --> 00:39:11,880
recommendation would be it's a separate

881
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:14,579
item outside of the moratorium I think

882
00:39:14,579 --> 00:39:17,040
it's obviously right for discussion for

883
00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:20,460
the next committee meeting obviously you

884
00:39:20,460 --> 00:39:23,579
know the law Department serves

885
00:39:23,579 --> 00:39:25,740
um you know obviously all the

886
00:39:25,740 --> 00:39:27,660
Departments of the city the mayor's

887
00:39:27,660 --> 00:39:29,880
office but also the city council

888
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:33,500
so we are available to discuss you know

889
00:39:33,500 --> 00:39:36,119
your thoughts because you know you are

890
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:38,339
the legislators so it's going to be a

891
00:39:38,339 --> 00:39:39,960
determination that's made by you in

892
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:42,240
terms of how you want this to play out

893
00:39:42,240 --> 00:39:44,339
we want to be able to provide the legal

894
00:39:44,339 --> 00:39:46,859
support for you so we do recommend that

895
00:39:46,859 --> 00:39:49,980
you come talk to us obviously but my

896
00:39:49,980 --> 00:39:51,599
suggestion would be putting it on for

897
00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:53,460
the next committee meeting to discuss

898
00:39:53,460 --> 00:39:56,460
where the council people stand on how

899
00:39:56,460 --> 00:39:59,099
they want the zoning to be rolled out

900
00:39:59,099 --> 00:40:03,180
for this Mr Marney and I have spoken at

901
00:40:03,180 --> 00:40:06,060
length about what we see how we see this

902
00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:09,000
unfolding but obviously our thoughts

903
00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:11,460
suggests that you're going to have to

904
00:40:11,460 --> 00:40:13,920
obviously at some point as you know city

905
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:17,060
council people pass something that works

906
00:40:17,060 --> 00:40:20,460
so yeah so you're asking for this to be

907
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:21,859
on in two weeks results

908
00:40:21,859 --> 00:40:24,900
okay we'll do that in the meantime if

909
00:40:24,900 --> 00:40:26,520
you don't mind I will come in get some

910
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:28,079
clear some clarity in the Law Department

911
00:40:28,079 --> 00:40:29,880
to stop up and see you we welcome back

912
00:40:29,880 --> 00:40:31,680
let's see

913
00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:33,540
okay thank you

914
00:40:33,540 --> 00:40:39,290
follow up on arpa contracts Mr Ferrari

915
00:40:39,300 --> 00:40:47,630
ations

916
00:40:47,640 --> 00:41:02,210
thank you

917
00:41:02,220 --> 00:41:06,470
so

918
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:07,700
um

919
00:41:07,700 --> 00:41:12,000
I sent everything to uh I had sent all

920
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,940
the emails from all our participants in

921
00:41:14,940 --> 00:41:17,760
this arpa review to to all the council

922
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,440
members and what I did is I I put the

923
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,480
under the last column exactly you know

924
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,260
uh you know what we have to look at

925
00:41:27,260 --> 00:41:31,200
I think as you know there's the two in

926
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,480
particular at the cocoa house and Scat

927
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:35,940
they're looking to change their uh

928
00:41:35,940 --> 00:41:39,290
original work

929
00:41:39,300 --> 00:41:41,240
uh items

930
00:41:41,240 --> 00:41:45,680
and there's a few like uh

931
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:49,260
Miracle on Craig the electric city uh

932
00:41:49,260 --> 00:41:54,119
Co-op Hamilton art center and where's

933
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:59,750
the other one and uh

934
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,579
the YWCA which are going to probably

935
00:42:02,579 --> 00:42:05,589
need extensions

936
00:42:05,599 --> 00:42:09,240
we did two contracts this week Maurice

937
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,700
Brown did a great job of helping get

938
00:42:11,700 --> 00:42:14,339
this through uh we're looking to do a

939
00:42:14,339 --> 00:42:16,200
few more next week too right or even

940
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,960
this week maybe a couple through but

941
00:42:18,960 --> 00:42:20,099
we're going to bring them up to the

942
00:42:20,099 --> 00:42:23,339
water department to review uh we did get

943
00:42:23,339 --> 00:42:25,020
a good response for everyone and as

944
00:42:25,020 --> 00:42:27,540
you've seen what we've got uh my

945
00:42:27,540 --> 00:42:30,780
question is uh uh is there a committee

946
00:42:30,780 --> 00:42:33,900
that's going to review these to talk

947
00:42:33,900 --> 00:42:36,119
about the extensions to talk about the

948
00:42:36,119 --> 00:42:38,040
change in plans

949
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,740
a change in funding or whatever and

950
00:42:40,740 --> 00:42:42,660
that's that's what I'm not

951
00:42:42,660 --> 00:42:45,060
sure okay

952
00:42:45,060 --> 00:42:49,380
um so everyone got the email

953
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:51,960
members mayor about well I'm not sure

954
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,300
what the councilman is about the various

955
00:42:54,300 --> 00:42:57,180
contracts I just want to be clear these

956
00:42:57,180 --> 00:42:59,819
are all of them this is everything these

957
00:42:59,819 --> 00:43:01,400
are not the cities connected anymore

958
00:43:01,400 --> 00:43:04,440
outside okay yeah all right so perfect

959
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:05,760
okay that's what I wanted that's right

960
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:08,160
try to make a smaller for you and I also

961
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:09,900
wanted to put in what they did so that

962
00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:11,160
way you can review them and you can

963
00:43:11,160 --> 00:43:15,000
remember next time laughs

964
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:17,220
um so you had an opportunity to review

965
00:43:17,220 --> 00:43:19,920
that Mr Ferrari made it clear that some

966
00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,839
people are asking for extensions which

967
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:23,520
to me is reasonable as long as they can

968
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:25,579
do within the time frame that we needed

969
00:43:25,579 --> 00:43:28,200
others are asking for change and two in

970
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:30,900
particular right are asking for change

971
00:43:30,900 --> 00:43:34,260
and use of their funds correct so um

972
00:43:34,260 --> 00:43:36,359
this question really is for for well

973
00:43:36,359 --> 00:43:38,220
it's for us to discuss but what would

974
00:43:38,220 --> 00:43:41,280
that require Mr Colden in terms of their

975
00:43:41,280 --> 00:43:42,540
contracts

976
00:43:42,540 --> 00:43:44,460
so some of them don't have contracts we

977
00:43:44,460 --> 00:43:46,319
have those those have not been contract

978
00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:48,300
however there are Appropriations that

979
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:49,560
have been made by the city council

980
00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:50,940
appropriating the money for very

981
00:43:50,940 --> 00:43:53,099
specific purposes as it applies to

982
00:43:53,099 --> 00:43:55,680
certain organizations certainly if the

983
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:58,859
council's seeking to change the

984
00:43:58,859 --> 00:44:02,579
appropriation not in terms of who's the

985
00:44:02,579 --> 00:44:05,119
recipient but for the purpose

986
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:08,579
the council can certainly make an

987
00:44:08,579 --> 00:44:11,160
amendment to what they previously

988
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:14,339
authorized appropriation wise or because

989
00:44:14,339 --> 00:44:16,380
it was always going to come back I

990
00:44:16,380 --> 00:44:17,880
believe to the council because in some

991
00:44:17,880 --> 00:44:19,800
instances the council just appropriated

992
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:21,420
the money but didn't authorize a

993
00:44:21,420 --> 00:44:22,640
contract yet

994
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:27,290
when they authorize the contract

995
00:44:27,300 --> 00:44:29,280
um they could do so

996
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:31,980
um and change what the purpose is for

997
00:44:31,980 --> 00:44:35,099
okay again we'd have to go back and I'd

998
00:44:35,099 --> 00:44:36,480
have to go back and take a look at all

999
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:37,800
the resolutions there have been a couple

1000
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:39,480
that have been um

1001
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,119
uh amended to put in the time

1002
00:44:42,119 --> 00:44:44,040
constraints that

1003
00:44:44,040 --> 00:44:45,720
um you know how how long certain

1004
00:44:45,720 --> 00:44:48,660
entities had to come up with the

1005
00:44:48,660 --> 00:44:51,000
additional funding commitments uh we

1006
00:44:51,000 --> 00:44:54,599
were giving a year at the time time for

1007
00:44:54,599 --> 00:44:57,359
them to you know come up with their the

1008
00:44:57,359 --> 00:44:59,760
commitments to constitutional to

1009
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,859
increase that time those were an outer

1010
00:45:01,859 --> 00:45:12,829
activities

1011
00:45:12,839 --> 00:45:17,349
wow

1012
00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:18,900
okay

1013
00:45:18,900 --> 00:45:20,220
um

1014
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:22,740
so it looks like

1015
00:45:22,740 --> 00:45:24,540
in terms of the funding slowly that's

1016
00:45:24,540 --> 00:45:26,640
something we would have to say yes or no

1017
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:27,720
um

1018
00:45:27,720 --> 00:45:30,000
and I think in our discussions we also

1019
00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:31,260
came up with

1020
00:45:31,260 --> 00:45:34,619
what the contingencies would be so in

1021
00:45:34,619 --> 00:45:36,720
terms of

1022
00:45:36,720 --> 00:45:40,980
where you where you are in terms of the workload in the department of

1023
00:45:40,980 --> 00:45:42,480
development

1024
00:45:42,480 --> 00:45:44,569
um

1025
00:45:44,579 --> 00:45:47,280
would you be able to in two weeks give

1026
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:49,079
us like

1027
00:45:49,079 --> 00:45:50,940
because I think the council needs to

1028
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:52,140
look at everything that's being asked to

1029
00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:54,000
them and so it asks council members to

1030
00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,680
review everything that's being put

1031
00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:57,300
before them so we can make one

1032
00:45:57,300 --> 00:45:59,520
collective decision uh hopefully at one

1033
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,380
time I know that there were people that

1034
00:46:01,380 --> 00:46:02,880
came forward that wanted a resolution

1035
00:46:02,880 --> 00:46:04,920
and wanted us to you know pass this one

1036
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:06,599
and then that one

1037
00:46:06,599 --> 00:46:08,520
um I'm not I don't think that's the best

1038
00:46:08,520 --> 00:46:10,500
way to do this I think that we should

1039
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:12,060
try to do this the way we initially

1040
00:46:12,060 --> 00:46:15,420
intended which was to look at all of the

1041
00:46:15,420 --> 00:46:17,700
um all of the projects see how much

1042
00:46:17,700 --> 00:46:19,800
money there is we know that we voted to

1043
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:22,980
we send 2.5 million for a project so

1044
00:46:22,980 --> 00:46:28,619
that's going to change that and um so my question for you is not counting the

1045
00:46:28,619 --> 00:46:31,380
2.5 million can you also tell us if and

1046
00:46:31,380 --> 00:46:34,740
how much is up there I just I I knew

1047
00:46:34,740 --> 00:46:36,480
you're more concerned with with the

1048
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,339
responses right so that's what I brought

1049
00:46:38,339 --> 00:46:40,140
you today I did not I did not give you

1050
00:46:40,140 --> 00:46:42,119
the No No financials but we we do that

1051
00:46:42,119 --> 00:46:44,220
every every almost every week we do that

1052
00:46:44,220 --> 00:46:46,020
yep

1053
00:46:46,020 --> 00:46:58,550
horrible

1054
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,020
but while we have to get an update and

1055
00:47:01,020 --> 00:47:05,690
then um talk about allocations

1056
00:47:05,700 --> 00:47:08,040
so as you said I sent you any I sent you

1057
00:47:08,040 --> 00:47:10,079
all that I had is there any anything

1058
00:47:10,079 --> 00:47:12,119
else that more that you need did you

1059
00:47:12,119 --> 00:47:13,280
want me to

1060
00:47:13,280 --> 00:47:15,319
simplify

1061
00:47:15,319 --> 00:47:17,460
and so that's what I was trying to do in

1062
00:47:17,460 --> 00:47:20,220
the last column there right right

1063
00:47:20,220 --> 00:47:22,260
um so you know have council members an

1064
00:47:22,260 --> 00:47:24,119
opportunity to look at this thing are

1065
00:47:24,119 --> 00:47:25,500
you in a position to really go through

1066
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:27,720
this today do you need the two weeks to

1067
00:47:27,720 --> 00:47:29,700
review what's been sent to us I think

1068
00:47:29,700 --> 00:47:30,960
you're going to probably need time to go

1069
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:32,760
oh okay there's a lot there was a lot

1070
00:47:32,760 --> 00:47:35,040
there okay I don't know I I kind of

1071
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,440
tried to meet people a little bit yes Mr

1072
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,480
Farley so quick so quick question first

1073
00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:40,619
of all I want to say thank you for the

1074
00:47:40,619 --> 00:47:42,119
work that you're doing I know at one

1075
00:47:42,119 --> 00:47:43,680
point there are certain people or

1076
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:45,720
certain agencies that were you kind of

1077
00:47:45,720 --> 00:47:48,300
had to chase down and say hey that's a

1078
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:50,819
crime Shake That yep we got them all yep

1079
00:47:50,819 --> 00:47:52,260
that's something I want to implement for

1080
00:47:52,260 --> 00:47:53,400
that I appreciate the work that's being

1081
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,420
done there I was thinking um I thought

1082
00:47:56,420 --> 00:47:58,920
at one point I thought the Boys and

1083
00:47:58,920 --> 00:48:00,540
Girls Clubs generator I thought that the

1084
00:48:00,540 --> 00:48:02,339
county provided ended up providing the

1085
00:48:02,339 --> 00:48:03,900
funding for their generator I'm not sure

1086
00:48:03,900 --> 00:48:06,000
and now they they rescinded it they

1087
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,960
didn't they didn't receive it yeah okay

1088
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,700
because I was trying to improve that

1089
00:48:11,700 --> 00:48:13,160
point too

1090
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,540
yes I think we all try to get that but

1091
00:48:15,540 --> 00:48:16,980
it did not happen it's good to be alive

1092
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:19,079
yes they were on the other end of the

1093
00:48:19,079 --> 00:48:26,329
television yeah

1094
00:48:26,339 --> 00:48:29,280
if you have yes so we have to look also

1095
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:30,780
when we come back in two weeks so that's

1096
00:48:30,780 --> 00:48:32,880
also a good extension because some of

1097
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:34,099
these will

1098
00:48:34,099 --> 00:48:37,200
definitely extensions yes September yeah

1099
00:48:37,200 --> 00:48:41,170
so we have to discuss that please

1100
00:48:41,180 --> 00:48:44,099
I just want to mention too uh uh the

1101
00:48:44,099 --> 00:48:46,099
American Craig Street uh we have uh

1102
00:48:46,099 --> 00:48:48,300
worked with tap tap it's going to

1103
00:48:48,300 --> 00:48:49,740
actually go out and do the bids

1104
00:48:49,740 --> 00:48:51,839
themselves and that they're having a

1105
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:53,700
walk through I think within the I think

1106
00:48:53,700 --> 00:48:55,319
it's this Friday or next Friday and I'm

1107
00:48:55,319 --> 00:48:57,599
absolutely sure uh for the contractors

1108
00:48:57,599 --> 00:48:59,760
take a look and then they're going to

1109
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:01,619
move forward on the bid and that really

1110
00:49:01,619 --> 00:49:02,640
that's why they're going to need

1111
00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:04,200
extension because we'll find out you

1112
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,540
know what the bid numbers look like to

1113
00:49:06,540 --> 00:49:08,520
see where we're going before we contract

1114
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:12,170
with them okay

1115
00:49:12,180 --> 00:49:15,240
you know in terms of the the field that

1116
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:20,880
I asked him to to amend their location what are we going to do

1117
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,319
in terms of the application that was

1118
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:24,660
submitted for the specific project and

1119
00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:26,040
now they are asking for something else

1120
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:28,260
that was not submitted in that

1121
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:29,880
application well so that's something

1122
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:31,200
that we need to look at because we did

1123
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:33,180
discuss it initially backwards already

1124
00:49:33,180 --> 00:49:36,240
when one agency's requested changes and

1125
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:39,240
we talk about it a little bit so it's

1126
00:49:39,240 --> 00:49:40,319
something that we need to address and

1127
00:49:40,319 --> 00:49:42,000
look at any application and hopefully it

1128
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:45,000
is for the others who submitted

1129
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:46,800
there's two in particular that want to

1130
00:49:46,800 --> 00:49:48,960
change you that's the cocoa house and uh

1131
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:51,300
scat yep so we're gonna have to take

1132
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:52,619
into consideration whether that's

1133
00:49:52,619 --> 00:49:55,319
something that that we're open to but

1134
00:49:55,319 --> 00:49:57,240
again Mr Ferrari has forwarded all of

1135
00:49:57,240 --> 00:50:00,660
that information right yes and if you

1136
00:50:00,660 --> 00:50:01,859
miss anything let me know I'll

1137
00:50:01,859 --> 00:50:03,359
definitely

1138
00:50:03,359 --> 00:50:06,060
give it to you right additionally if you

1139
00:50:06,060 --> 00:50:07,680
um I know that Mr Sutherland when he was

1140
00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:09,960
here sent us all copies of the

1141
00:50:09,960 --> 00:50:12,420
applications of some place in your

1142
00:50:12,420 --> 00:50:15,000
emails hopefully you have that if you

1143
00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:17,400
wanted to be able to go back um and use

1144
00:50:17,400 --> 00:50:18,540
this list to look at their original

1145
00:50:18,540 --> 00:50:20,460
application and if you can't find it you

1146
00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:23,160
need it we can think Mr Brown and I we

1147
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,920
can probably find it for you Maurice's

1148
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:27,660
black you can it's a lot better on

1149
00:50:27,660 --> 00:50:30,780
computers to find it than I am so

1150
00:50:30,780 --> 00:50:35,630
it was a great job

1151
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:37,740
so um

1152
00:50:37,740 --> 00:50:40,200
sure okay I I know if you have any

1153
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:41,819
questions let me know that way I can

1154
00:50:41,819 --> 00:50:44,700
work on that right okay all right so any

1155
00:50:44,700 --> 00:50:46,859
other questions no thank you well done

1156
00:50:46,859 --> 00:50:48,300
good job thank you all right thank you

1157
00:50:48,300 --> 00:50:51,000
very much for all your work

1158
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,960
and keep it moving I do I do so mayor um

1159
00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:56,460
I did send your email today can we

1160
00:50:56,460 --> 00:50:58,500
consider bringing in a consultant to

1161
00:50:58,500 --> 00:51:00,240
help us get this all done

1162
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:03,180
is that something I'm sorry bringing in

1163
00:51:03,180 --> 00:51:05,579
we're getting it done we're doing some

1164
00:51:05,579 --> 00:51:09,049
hiring and

1165
00:51:09,059 --> 00:51:11,640
we're hiring to

1166
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,160
we're looking at hiring where hopefully

1167
00:51:14,160 --> 00:51:15,960
everything works out for us we're going

1168
00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:18,420
to fill some positions and bring people

1169
00:51:18,420 --> 00:51:20,880
in uh with part of part of their

1170
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,119
positions might be doing that

1171
00:51:24,119 --> 00:51:26,520
okay let us know more about that oh yeah

1172
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:28,319
okay and we should do as soon as

1173
00:51:28,319 --> 00:51:34,549
possible I appreciate that thank you very much

1174
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:37,079
all right item number four in ordinance

1175
00:51:37,079 --> 00:51:40,319
uh pursuant to section 101.

1176
00:51:40,319 --> 00:51:42,540
abandoning section a portion of Larch

1177
00:51:42,540 --> 00:51:43,920
Street

1178
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:45,540
we were as very close at the last

1179
00:51:45,540 --> 00:51:48,240
council meeting yeah so under the city

1180
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:51,140
code we need 75

1181
00:51:51,140 --> 00:51:55,200
approval to abandon uh City street we

1182
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:58,440
had five Council people present we

1183
00:51:58,440 --> 00:52:01,559
needed six to vote in favor of it so

1184
00:52:01,559 --> 00:52:03,960
bring it back to committee to send back

1185
00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:06,359
to the council for consideration of that

1186
00:52:06,359 --> 00:52:07,800
ordinance

1187
00:52:07,800 --> 00:52:09,240
so we really don't need to take any

1188
00:52:09,240 --> 00:52:10,500
action because we already moved it out

1189
00:52:10,500 --> 00:52:12,839
of committee at this point yes yeah it's

1190
00:52:12,839 --> 00:52:14,400
making sure everybody's aware of why

1191
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,319
it's going to go back

1192
00:52:16,319 --> 00:52:18,359
um you know as far as I know there was

1193
00:52:18,359 --> 00:52:20,220
no opposition

1194
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,500
um to the ordinance of the public or

1195
00:52:22,500 --> 00:52:24,960
internally it's just a matter of uh

1196
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,900
voting it so if that's a council meeting

1197
00:52:27,900 --> 00:52:30,300
our about six people then we're going to

1198
00:52:30,300 --> 00:52:35,510
be in the same boat again

1199
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:38,460
okay the last three items I've been on

1200
00:52:38,460 --> 00:52:41,579
the agenda are for executive session

1201
00:52:41,579 --> 00:52:43,440
so I'll make a motion uh ask for a

1202
00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:45,420
motion to do an executive session excuse

1203
00:52:45,420 --> 00:52:49,380
me ask a motion too wait wait I have I'd

1204
00:52:49,380 --> 00:52:51,059
like to ask promotions for reset so

1205
00:52:51,059 --> 00:52:53,160
Claims can call off order so second

1206
00:52:53,160 --> 00:52:55,680
all's in favor bye would you like to

1207
00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:56,880
call the warrior claims committee we

1208
00:52:56,880 --> 00:52:58,319
have one item on the agenda tonight

1209
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:02,359
it'll be discussed in detective session

1210
00:53:02,359 --> 00:53:04,740
may you please have a motion to answer

1211
00:53:04,740 --> 00:53:07,460
executives