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agendas the acceptance committed from

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the February 6 2023 meeting moved by Mr

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report for 2022 with Mr palomini Mr

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procurement report for 2022 moved by Mr

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report for 2022 boomed by Mr palomini

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any opposed resolutions carried next

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item the authorizations enter into an

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option agreement with the city of

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region and we referred to as the land

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it's also all the Schenectady city

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council committee meeting for Tuesday

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September 5th 2023. we'll begin with the

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presentation by the Schenectady Police

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Department you know initiative Mr Mayor

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and thank you for modifying your

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schedule uh have Parts been working on

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for a period of time coming out of

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form items creating transparency and

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going to go live it is live it is live

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the council president justification

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reported on the agenda that they've been

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wasting at times or pulled it back from

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the public so this will be the actual

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site and turn it over to Chief Clifford

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thank you mayor

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come out of the map I want to just I

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want to introduce Matt Douglas he's our

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crime intelligence and he's been doing

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this is his baby he's been doing all the

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work on this before we turn it over to

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him I wanted to just point out that if

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everybody remembers this document here

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that we all did a couple years ago

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recommendation number 26 was our

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commitment to transparency the

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Schenectady police department will

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commit to fully integrating police calls

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reported crime and enforcement activity

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within a customized designed application

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that will be shared on the department

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website this commitment to a

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public-facing application will reinforce

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the Department's commitment to

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transparency to the community

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when you further go on to the actual

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document itself environmental systems

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Research Institute which is the active

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or which is what esri is the senior

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publishing to a public to data share

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this platform will greatly Aid in

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transparency by displaying

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years of city and police data including

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all and easy to search website that also

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has easy to navigate dashboards or

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so this was done a couple years ago I'm

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not sure why there are so many typos in

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here for you of our now

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active public spacing dashboard I'll

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turn it over to director Douglas to go

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through a short PowerPoint telling you

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how we got here and then we'll give you

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mentioned this is a project that we've

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been working on for quite some time now

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that we actually got everything together

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some of the things that we've been able

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enhancing uh transparency with the

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police department and with the community

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all right so a couple little slides to

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go over here real quick but transparency

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itself really what it is is sharing

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information and data and making it

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easily accessible to the public all

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2022 that showed that 42 percent of

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Americans find that there is a gap in

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transparency with policing in the

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community which really impacts the

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perception that the community has with

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law enforcement with the Technologies

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and software that we now have in the

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city of Schenectady we've been able to

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create different ways to kind of

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generate a platform to further enhance

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that transparency which is about what

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I'm going to show you a couple of our

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um now Schenectady the city itself is

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very data driven we use data for so many

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different things it's a smart City

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initiative again very data based sound

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for the Schenectady Police Department

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which is more my wheelhouse we create

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actual products on a weekly basis

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suspect um a variety of products that we

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put on a weekly basis and that's

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tactical analysis and then you got the

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like the long-term initiatives and

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that falls under our evidence-based

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approaches which are strategically

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placed uh initiative so to be a good

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doctor that have been nationally

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recognized such as hot spot policing

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ddacs data driven approaches to crime

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and traffic safety uh crime prevention

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through environmental design right so as

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we start to get all this information

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platforms that we can share what we're

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all right now today we're primarily

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going to talk about the dashboard but

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just as a brief example of something

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that we recently were able to create was

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a link that really showcased uh

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showcased the success that we had with

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our Schenectady Hub platform which was

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done by Lieutenant Brian mascheron and

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Sergeant Nick Mannix and different

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support from molecular officials and

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Command Staff we able to generate this

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with the Azure Technologies to really

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showcase again the successes that we've

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been having in a very professional

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format and platform that can go for

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different statistics and contacts on a

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different way to visually share what's

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been done and then the community to now

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access this type of information

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all right now if we switch gears and go

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more towards the agenda we will go to

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the current slide

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all right now we're talking about crime

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statistics how can we share crime

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reported crime to the community and have

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them easily access that information

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um sure enough we do create internally

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uh weekly crime statistical reports but

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something that the community could

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interact with and look up certain

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information that they are interested in

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regarding our crime and that's what's

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going to bring us now to the

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public-facing crime dashboard that we're

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able to implement and put together uh

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use utilizing the esri Technologies

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all right so as this loads um what

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you'll end up seeing here is that it

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brings up a map of the city of

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Schenectady and then it brings up a

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variety of tables and charts all of

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which have the interactivity and

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configuring that the end user can choose

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what to look at so right now what I'm

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doing is I'm looking at select a date

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range now keeping in mind what we have

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put together is 28 days of recorded

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criminal activity this would be a

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dashboard that will be updated on a

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weekly basis currently this is looking

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at July 31st to October or I'm sorry to

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uh August 27th of this year so if we

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wanted to look at just let's say July

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31st we'll go for a full week and we'll

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go to August 6th you'll start to see

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that the charts and configurations will

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change based on the new parameters that

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the person was looking for you can also

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zoom in and zoom out of the map and you

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can say okay this is great information

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but let's say I'm owning interested in a

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different activity that occurred in the

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downtown area and Hamilton Hill so as

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you change those filterings the charts

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and tables will also reflect the changes

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um very similar if you're only

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interested in all right let me look at

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all uh neighborhoods within the city of

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Schenectady there's another drop down

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that showcases the reported Prime types

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and currently we have them all selected

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if we're only interested in say motor

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vehicle thefts and burglaries you're

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only going to see that based on the

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filters that you put in place so again

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very interactive I can show you quite a

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bit of information and then the other

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all neighborhoods and all crimes

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charts and tables and then in addition

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if maybe someone's moving in or they

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want to know what's going on in a

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particular area there's a drop down menu

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where you can literally click

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lasso select out the crimes that's my

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circle guys and it'll basically show you

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how many of those crimes you selected

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and give you Italian like top left of

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the chart on the bottom of the dashboard

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there is information on schenectady's

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police tip line on different information

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of the community can provide to the

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police department and then also below

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that there's a disclaimer on the

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accuracy of the data um

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City attorney can take a further look at

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that but basically the bypass we

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validated the data that's coming through

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a trusted Source it's our internal data

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but we've taken the correct measures to

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make sure that it's validated

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so that is the dashboard how it works

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how it's set up again a lot of

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interaction uh that you can have with

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this particular dashboard

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definitely go back if you have questions

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I just got a couple quick slides to wrap

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this up

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all right so this took quite some time

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to really get up and running and as we

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started we had different visions and

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different goals so as we started to

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accomplish One Vision and meet that

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expectation such as the public-facing

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dashboard now we're coming up with a

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variety of other missions so we have

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more goals to achieve while using this

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different type of Technology this slide

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is more or less a thank you for the

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community the elected officials council

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members yourself and support throughout

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this transition

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and then we also ended off looking at

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different action items to further

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promote and enhance the things that

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we're now capable of producing utilizing

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these very similar Technologies

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um so that pretty much wraps it up and

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we open it up for questions

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and I can easily navigate back to that

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dashboard if there's anything of

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interest there as well

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I know Steve was there something that

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you know that's closely rolled up called

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Patrol finder I didn't notice anything

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on here that interacts with that or that

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mentioned at all is that's part of it is

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that working where are we back so Patrol

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finders is my understanding more

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internal uh for a lot of different

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operations with Patrol

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um the dashboard that you're showing now

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that we're kind of showing is really

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more for public-facing use

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okay because my understanding part of

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the patrol finder was that for the

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Department to be able to find out where

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the control cars were okay

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that is the case for the public at some

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point we're not saying we're ready to do

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that yet but once we implement it at

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some point this the public it could

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become part of this dashboard for the

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public to be able to see when the last

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time a police car drove by their house

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so so but we're not there yet we're

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still we're still working out the

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Kingston Patrol finder and

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fully employment okay thank you

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yes is this on the website the city

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website now great question so yes and I

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will be able to attend the lawsuit we

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can provide a little bit more

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information on how that is embedded into

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the website and launched

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Lieutenant McLaughlin from the police

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department I uh

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she had a little bit of a hand in this

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about

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10 minutes before the meeting we

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published the link and ensured that

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everything worked appropriately so it is

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in fact live on the city's website as of

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about 5 30 this evening so you can

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actually navigate to this the data we

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did in the last minute validation make

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sure that the links work appropriately

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and that it was publicly accessible in

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ADA compliance so it is in fact live uh

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the tutorial is also live on how to

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navigate it so there are directions in

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case it isn't clear to the end user

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immediately so with a graphical link to

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try to explain to you the different

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parts of the dashboard itself so it is

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there and to your previous point we can

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start incorporating other layers as they

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become available to us that's the

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advantage of esri is that we can

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continue to incorporate layers and

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evolve and add that for both the public

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and everybody else

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okay thank you

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um so number one I want to say this is really a good stuff that we have

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and I'm thinking about

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um you know I just I want to know first

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of all that it's something new that's

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rolling out so I'm sure that there will

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be things that you know she tweaked

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along the way which are you know I think

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the public should know that I guess my

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question is

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um kind of similar uh are we like

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how does this work in partnership with

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um you know do you see a way that this

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will translate someone like the the new

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body cams things like that that have

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also been uh

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are you as a tool that's going to be

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used for more transparency and Community

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engagement how do you see the tool kind

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of working together and also is there a

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place for a community so the problem

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with somebody in the community and I go

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on and there's some information that uh

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might be specific to what I'm looking

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for but isn't available as one of the

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drop down boxes is there an opportunity

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for me to kind of or correspond and say

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hey I was looking for this and then

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what's our capacity to kind of be

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responsive to that

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so uh historically speaking for us as an

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agency that we use the foil process a

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ton which to some may seem like a

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barrier to entry so we wanted to try to

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reduce that barrier and work on reducing

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all of them so uh we are going to still

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be responsive we are monitoring I

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actually oversee all of the Department's

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foils now that come into the police

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department so we kind of take a gauge of

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what people are asking for to try to be

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able to find a way to provide that as

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you know efficiently as possible and to

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try to be as transparent so yes I think

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as we see not only that but the feedback

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that comes generally through the records

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department which I also oversee those

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are the things that we use as like a

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feedback and kind of a sounding board

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but as we hear it we are working towards

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that the advantage of esri is the depth

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of the platform allows for us to even do

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surveying which is some another

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initiative we're currently working on

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just not ready to publish right now but

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to be able to survey the public uh it's mainly a March decree to create a

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database in a public-facing portal that

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has everything and it's not just limited

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to the police department it's not just

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limited to just crime data so yes I

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think as we get there and we can do you

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know figuring out what's going to be the

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easiest way to display that we're also

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trying to use other communities

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throughout the country it's kind of like

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the the backboard of what works and what

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hasn't worked so that we're not wasting

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resources time or money and developing

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something that is unsuccessful but at

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the same time still trying to innovate

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so yes I think to your point we are

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going to 100 see the evolution but as

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those things come in if more than one

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person who's requested it is something

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that's on our radar and there are

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probably a good eight or nine projects

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currently in the hospital

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I do see us adding more to this this is

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just what is 100 ready for today we vet

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it and we know is

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to the point where we feel comfortable

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in saying that this product is is ready

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for the public to be able to answer the

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questions that we feel otherwise would

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have been months or weeks in the making

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which would normally be the full

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turnaround time which could be

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now they can get in about two to three

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minutes I've said before that we want

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the community to become active in public

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safety and driving that to the website

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and getting them involved and looking at

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crimes in their neighborhoods help

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helping us police the community let the

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community be a part of it so that's

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really what we're hoping to do is to

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drive members of our community to our

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website we'll get information get the

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ability to look things up and of course

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we're going to take feedback on making

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that the community wants to

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want to uh sorry to plan some questions

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but first and foremost thank you for for

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being here and providing us this

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presentation

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of roughly how long is information

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stored and are residents able to export

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so in the way of the current dashboard

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right now uh we have 28 days worth of I

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would say vetted quality data that we're

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able to display in this type of format

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from a foil perspective obviously we

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maintain data beyond that back when we

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probably were not as diligent in always

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ensuring that reporting was done

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correctly you know I walk into the

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police department unfortunately

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sometimes would be labeled as 531

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Liberty Street when in fact maybe a

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crime didn't occur there so as a result

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of that we've had to put new measures in

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to make sure that it's easily

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displayable and it makes sense and it

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corresponds to a neighborhood as opposed

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to the police station over and over

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again so right now older data is

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available from foil still but moving

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forward the option would be to continue

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to add to the database and be able to

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expand it as we see as we go along as

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for uh you know to the other point of

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exporting the data like any other

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website you can take the data that's

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there it's been cleaned it is sieges

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compliant it's enough you know Anonymous

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enough that it would be very challenging

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for somebody to really figure it out

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unless they were an active participant

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in that particular crime because it's

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not specific to a set address just a

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block if you will so they could export

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what they see on the screen by doing

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screen capturing but in the way of data

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security it meets or exceeds FBI and

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State's damage

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go check things one more question I know

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with becoming more transparent everyone

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assumes that people digest information

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the same which is not always the case

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for an individual that's looking at more

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information than less is there someone

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available to discuss some aspects of

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what they're seeing

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so we we do we have obviously our public

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information officer program does do

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community outreach but also speaks on a

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regular basis to people that have

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inquiries and normally what happens is

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if a records inquiry comes in where

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somebody's asking a specific question

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that can be at that point we triage and

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then send it to the appropriate person

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in the police department so the tips

563
00:32:50,580 --> 00:32:52,260
line also acts that way if a person

564
00:32:52,260 --> 00:32:53,700
calls in with something that's not

565
00:32:53,700 --> 00:32:55,500
necessarily a law enforcement tip for

566
00:32:55,500 --> 00:32:57,840
more or less a inquiry we may route that

567
00:32:57,840 --> 00:32:59,760
to either a Pio the community police

568
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,980
officer that's assigned to that zone

569
00:33:01,980 --> 00:33:03,480
um and you know and then maybe have that

570
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:04,919
person go and speak to them directly if

571
00:33:04,919 --> 00:33:06,120
they don't want to talk to somebody on

572
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,039
the phone whether it's for help

573
00:33:08,039 --> 00:33:09,779
navigating this or for other things that

574
00:33:09,779 --> 00:33:12,419
we can Aid them with but if if it seems

575
00:33:12,419 --> 00:33:14,159
to be a common occurrence then we'll

576
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:15,960
work on clarifying a dashboard or

577
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:18,120
creating another document just to try to

578
00:33:18,120 --> 00:33:19,380
make sure that we get over that barrier

579
00:33:19,380 --> 00:33:21,960
hurdle as well thank you I'll add one

580
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,480
more thing to that that um every fall

581
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,700
spring and fall but Falls approaching I

582
00:33:26,700 --> 00:33:28,080
try to make my way out to all the

583
00:33:28,080 --> 00:33:30,000
neighborhood association meetings so

584
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,039
this fall all I'm scheduling to go out

585
00:33:32,039 --> 00:33:34,080
to them so pay attention if the public

586
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,480
pay attention to when the next one is

587
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:37,980
when I go there I want to talk about

588
00:33:37,980 --> 00:33:40,500
technology and policing so this would be

589
00:33:40,500 --> 00:33:41,940
one of the things that we talk about and

590
00:33:41,940 --> 00:33:43,440
be a good opportunity to ask questions

591
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,600
at that point

592
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,600
and in terms of so um in terms of the

593
00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,340
crimes we're hearing a lot about car

594
00:33:50,340 --> 00:33:52,919
accidents and speeding it's it's huge so

595
00:33:52,919 --> 00:33:54,360
is that capturing that so people could

596
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:56,220
look within their neighborhood those

597
00:33:56,220 --> 00:33:58,260
kinds of things happening

598
00:33:58,260 --> 00:34:00,480
So currently this dashboard is

599
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:06,649
specifically a part one problem

600
00:34:06,659 --> 00:34:10,220
eight top serious crimes but crashes

601
00:34:10,220 --> 00:34:12,240
absolutely is actually one of those

602
00:34:12,240 --> 00:34:13,619
things that we actually had on our

603
00:34:13,619 --> 00:34:16,500
mission action items is because the data

604
00:34:16,500 --> 00:34:17,820
is there and we can actually create

605
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:20,040
another layer or a separate dashboards

606
00:34:20,040 --> 00:34:22,619
simple looking at crashes so that

607
00:34:22,619 --> 00:34:24,780
capability does exist this was just kind

608
00:34:24,780 --> 00:34:26,220
of like the initial launch to kind of

609
00:34:26,220 --> 00:34:29,040
showcase the platform itself of what it

610
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:30,960
can do and now it's really opening up

611
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:32,820
before the case to figure out what is it

612
00:34:32,820 --> 00:34:36,829
that the community bonds like officials

613
00:34:36,839 --> 00:34:40,379
okay thank you

614
00:34:40,379 --> 00:34:42,540
um Chief will this help in terms of the

615
00:34:42,540 --> 00:34:45,060
police response time

616
00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:47,700
addressing Primes

617
00:34:47,700 --> 00:34:49,560
will just help it anyway

618
00:34:49,560 --> 00:34:51,599
this this specifically well that that

619
00:34:51,599 --> 00:34:53,040
would be more of a patrol finder thing

620
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:54,780
but this is more of a reporting

621
00:34:54,780 --> 00:34:56,520
dashboard than anything

622
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,680
no answer your question no display

623
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,140
cannot be used to identify hot spots and

624
00:35:01,140 --> 00:35:03,540
then Target those areas

625
00:35:03,540 --> 00:35:06,000
well this is this is more of we'll

626
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:07,740
explain to the terms of historical event

627
00:35:07,740 --> 00:35:09,119
the actual

628
00:35:09,119 --> 00:35:15,710
initial response wouldn't have an effect

629
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:17,339
any other questions

630
00:35:17,339 --> 00:35:19,859
yeah and there's a lot of information

631
00:35:19,859 --> 00:35:22,260
here when you look at it again Matt's

632
00:35:22,260 --> 00:35:24,720
put a lot of time and effort in it

633
00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:27,119
it's just starting so it's a dynamic

634
00:35:27,119 --> 00:35:28,680
process you know there's some things on

635
00:35:28,680 --> 00:35:31,260
there at least say oh well this is great

636
00:35:31,260 --> 00:35:33,119
well anyway look at it nobody's going to

637
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,280
look at that one subset of data to maybe

638
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,780
something else that they want to see

639
00:35:36,780 --> 00:35:39,359
every day and so it's how do we modify

640
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:42,300
that to again to put the information out

641
00:35:42,300 --> 00:35:44,339
there that people want that makes sense

642
00:35:44,339 --> 00:35:47,280
and there's an unusual usable format and

643
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,500
then is to layer it with other things

644
00:35:49,500 --> 00:35:51,599
whether it's code enforcement whether

645
00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:55,260
it's dog licenses street closures some

646
00:35:55,260 --> 00:35:56,280
of the things that we're doing with

647
00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:58,980
c-click fix so it's really a dynamic

648
00:35:58,980 --> 00:36:02,040
process that's going to grow over time

649
00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:03,619
okay

650
00:36:03,619 --> 00:36:14,690
thank you thank you thank you very much

651
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,740
yes

652
00:36:16,740 --> 00:36:18,900
thank you I would like to call the

653
00:36:18,900 --> 00:36:20,940
finance committee to Carter and of

654
00:36:20,940 --> 00:36:24,240
course item is purchase of the new fire

655
00:36:24,240 --> 00:36:37,150
truck Chief Marino

656
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:40,760
good afternoon everyone

657
00:36:40,760 --> 00:36:43,579
thank God it's cool

658
00:36:43,579 --> 00:36:47,579
all right so this evening uh coming to

659
00:36:47,579 --> 00:36:51,180
you to ask for you to allow us to accept

660
00:36:51,180 --> 00:36:53,300
somebody from the state

661
00:36:53,300 --> 00:36:56,700
we reached out to the state several

662
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:59,579
months ago we had an idea of purchasing

663
00:36:59,579 --> 00:37:02,579
a spear apparatus to replace two

664
00:37:02,579 --> 00:37:04,859
apparatus that are 20 I think 23 years

665
00:37:04,859 --> 00:37:07,980
old America La France they are no longer

666
00:37:07,980 --> 00:37:10,859
being produced we can't get parts for

667
00:37:10,859 --> 00:37:12,240
them very difficult

668
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:14,940
so our goal was to purchase one new

669
00:37:14,940 --> 00:37:16,800
apparatus

670
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,920
take the two Miracle of France make a

671
00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:21,780
decent one out of that and that would

672
00:37:21,780 --> 00:37:25,560
still be a spare rig and the other rig

673
00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,440
that was comparable but not worthy for

674
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,420
the street we would bring up to our

675
00:37:30,420 --> 00:37:33,720
training Tower which is just we're just

676
00:37:33,720 --> 00:37:37,740
completing reconstruction there so that

677
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:39,839
apparatus will be able to remain there

678
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,839
when our crews go up there to train they

679
00:37:42,839 --> 00:37:44,220
don't have to take equipment off of

680
00:37:44,220 --> 00:37:45,180
their

681
00:37:45,180 --> 00:37:47,760
Frontline apparatus and if A call came

682
00:37:47,760 --> 00:37:49,980
in they would be able to respond in the

683
00:37:49,980 --> 00:37:53,400
time they land so we reached out to some

684
00:37:53,400 --> 00:37:54,960
women in Santa Barbara and some of them

685
00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:59,160
instead and they were able to help us in

686
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:00,780
post

687
00:38:00,780 --> 00:38:03,480
um post budget funding

688
00:38:03,480 --> 00:38:06,660
so some of them in Santa Barbara is has

689
00:38:06,660 --> 00:38:09,660
secured 675

690
00:38:09,660 --> 00:38:14,099
000 and some women stacked 125 000 for a

691
00:38:14,099 --> 00:38:16,920
total of 800 000.

692
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:19,619
um there's no Financial liability to the

693
00:38:19,619 --> 00:38:20,460
city

694
00:38:20,460 --> 00:38:23,339
we filling out the paperwork if you can

695
00:38:23,339 --> 00:38:26,160
see okay we'll move forward we won't see

696
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:31,490
the money until probably July of 2024.

697
00:38:31,500 --> 00:38:36,550
questions

698
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:42,480
all in favor hi thank you thank you well the next item is

699
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,820
requested proposal for 2023 Harley

700
00:38:44,820 --> 00:38:51,190
Davidson

701
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:53,880
good evening

702
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,820
I requesting uh to accept the request

703
00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:58,440
for proposal we had from Brunswick

704
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:01,740
Harley-Davidson in 2002 I believe it was

705
00:39:01,740 --> 00:39:05,520
PCC bird came in and requested that we

706
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:09,839
accept a grant from Jack and now we

707
00:39:09,839 --> 00:39:11,700
would like to use those funds to

708
00:39:11,700 --> 00:39:14,400
purchase a Harley-Davidson put out the

709
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,920
RFP and we only had one bid the bid with

710
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:20,990
the amount of 29 851.75

711
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:23,880
and our grant funding that we had given

712
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:25,380
to us

713
00:39:25,380 --> 00:39:31,200
was 24 390. so we propose to use to pay

714
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:32,960
for the remaining

715
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,460
5461.75 through our operating budget we

716
00:39:35,460 --> 00:39:38,160
are not requesting any further funds

717
00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:39,420
questions

718
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:43,740
Cummins sing good so I I asked that the

719
00:39:43,740 --> 00:39:45,480
meeting but I want to ask for the group

720
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:46,680
um because I don't see many motorcycle

721
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,079
cops around and so we're buying a new

722
00:39:49,079 --> 00:39:50,820
motorcycle so we're going well how we're

723
00:39:50,820 --> 00:39:52,980
going to be using that yeah so we are

724
00:39:52,980 --> 00:39:54,300
more shakes we have now are bought in

725
00:39:54,300 --> 00:39:56,339
1998 in

726
00:39:56,339 --> 00:39:59,160
um so 1999 for receiving 1998 so they

727
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,440
haven't been very operational we have

728
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,960
let the parades connected the sprays

729
00:40:03,960 --> 00:40:06,060
every year the holiday parade they've

730
00:40:06,060 --> 00:40:08,579
been at several community events um

731
00:40:08,579 --> 00:40:10,380
showing that the children the different

732
00:40:10,380 --> 00:40:12,720
bikes and with this one we would put a

733
00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:14,040
computer on it and it would use a

734
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,619
traffic enforcement as well okay thank

735
00:40:16,619 --> 00:40:31,310
you

736
00:40:31,320 --> 00:40:34,020
the next item is your 2022 Consolidated

737
00:40:34,020 --> 00:40:35,820
annual performance and evaluation

738
00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:42,190
reports Mr ferrariable

739
00:40:42,200 --> 00:40:45,480
information okay so those of you who

740
00:40:45,480 --> 00:40:47,940
have an Alexandria Carver she is in our

741
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:53,220
development department natural community Development supervisor so

742
00:40:53,220 --> 00:40:54,420
welcome everybody thank you thank you

743
00:40:54,420 --> 00:40:57,960
welcome aboard thank you good evening I

744
00:40:57,960 --> 00:41:01,020
am asking for approval for our request

745
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:04,440
on the 2022 Consolidated annual

746
00:41:04,440 --> 00:41:07,380
performance evaluation report

747
00:41:07,380 --> 00:41:08,240
um the

748
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,800
202-23 Consolidated annual performance

749
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,240
evaluation report addresses the

750
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,520
implementations of three goals that we

751
00:41:14,520 --> 00:41:16,740
established in our Consolidated plan for

752
00:41:16,740 --> 00:41:18,540
2020 through

753
00:41:18,540 --> 00:41:21,060
2012 which were to enhance housing

754
00:41:21,060 --> 00:41:23,820
opportunities expand economic Workforce

755
00:41:23,820 --> 00:41:25,640
Development and strengthen local

756
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:29,280
neighborhoods our cebg funds CD funds

757
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,079
were used for rental subsidies including

758
00:41:31,079 --> 00:41:33,000
rental cars for those at risk

759
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:35,579
homelessness security deposit and rents

760
00:41:35,579 --> 00:41:37,260
for those moving out of homelessness and

761
00:41:37,260 --> 00:41:39,420
that was how we move forward in

762
00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:42,800
enhancing housing opportunities our CD

763
00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,240
cdbgcb funding which is for soil

764
00:41:45,240 --> 00:41:47,040
business grants for businesses impacted

765
00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:49,619
by coping 19 free business training and

766
00:41:49,619 --> 00:41:51,060
workshops were held to enhance the

767
00:41:51,060 --> 00:41:52,680
skills of business owners and

768
00:41:52,680 --> 00:41:54,359
strengthening local neighborhoods to

769
00:41:54,359 --> 00:41:55,980
streetscapes beautification project

770
00:41:55,980 --> 00:41:58,440
Planet nearly 100 trees throughout the

771
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,300
nrsa and urban neighborhoods of

772
00:42:00,300 --> 00:42:02,160
Schenectady local youth were taught

773
00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:04,440
about various tree types soils and how

774
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,480
trees impacted the environment and the

775
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,700
city they live in the Jerry Burrell Park

776
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,740
was also restored this year new

777
00:42:10,740 --> 00:42:12,839
playground equipment basketball courts

778
00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:15,000
trees will directly impact 10 000

779
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:17,339
residents that live near the park safe

780
00:42:17,339 --> 00:42:20,040
house ain't the only China City also had

781
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,839
a front walkway and retained wall

782
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:24,660
completed with the use of the cdbg funds

783
00:42:24,660 --> 00:42:27,060
so we are our presentation of the report

784
00:42:27,060 --> 00:42:29,460
and announcement we have an additional

785
00:42:29,460 --> 00:42:31,680
call for public hearing so that we can

786
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,200
get public comments on our Cape 2000 on

787
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:39,050
22 2023 cases report thank you

788
00:42:39,060 --> 00:42:40,760
yeah

789
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:48,370
for a public area of this item yes

790
00:42:48,380 --> 00:42:55,270
thank you

791
00:42:55,280 --> 00:43:01,970
September 25th yeah

792
00:43:01,980 --> 00:43:05,650
okay any questions

793
00:43:05,660 --> 00:43:08,339
to call for public hearing September

794
00:43:08,339 --> 00:43:11,819
25th for this item second all in favor

795
00:43:11,819 --> 00:43:14,579
all right thank you

796
00:43:14,579 --> 00:43:17,640
the next item is the 2024 budget so I'm

797
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:24,230
important for public hearing here

798
00:43:24,240 --> 00:43:27,069
hello

799
00:43:27,079 --> 00:43:30,540
this is just a call for a public hearing

800
00:43:30,540 --> 00:43:33,859
before it proposed budget

801
00:43:33,859 --> 00:43:36,780
uh we're requesting its recommended that

802
00:43:36,780 --> 00:43:43,750
the council uh

803
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:51,760
for October 10 20 21st

804
00:43:51,770 --> 00:43:53,960
[Music]

805
00:43:53,960 --> 00:43:55,740
thank you

806
00:43:55,740 --> 00:43:57,480
the next item is the supplemental Bond

807
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,579
ordinance for large Ferry Street Pump

808
00:43:59,579 --> 00:44:01,079
Station

809
00:44:01,079 --> 00:44:04,140
so I believe Anthony Ferraris and a

810
00:44:04,140 --> 00:44:05,839
bunch of information to council

811
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:08,520
president Harry Porter in regards to

812
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:25,670
this we're increasing the foreign

813
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,780
so it's respectfully recommended that

814
00:44:27,780 --> 00:44:29,400
city council approve of this

815
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,200
supplemental bottle is an amount of 25

816
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:33,420
million 275

817
00:44:33,420 --> 00:44:35,160
000 for this project

818
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,520
right just to give some clarity

819
00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:39,720
in terms of I did have some questions

820
00:44:39,720 --> 00:44:41,099
because this would have been our third

821
00:44:41,099 --> 00:44:43,140
supplemental Bond ordinance so I just

822
00:44:43,140 --> 00:44:44,339
want to make sure that we had enough

823
00:44:44,339 --> 00:44:45,780
money in place and we weren't seeing

824
00:44:45,780 --> 00:44:47,819
this again and the reason actually for

825
00:44:47,819 --> 00:44:50,339
the entry so Mr Ferrari sent that

826
00:44:50,339 --> 00:44:52,980
information that's why I think we moved

827
00:44:52,980 --> 00:44:54,180
it forward to be on the agenda before it

828
00:44:54,180 --> 00:44:56,220
didn't get there so now they're bringing

829
00:44:56,220 --> 00:44:57,720
it back because all the information is

830
00:44:57,720 --> 00:44:59,339
here

831
00:44:59,339 --> 00:45:02,540
thank you any other questions

832
00:45:02,540 --> 00:45:06,060
all in favor all right thank you any

833
00:45:06,060 --> 00:45:08,420
other business for finance

834
00:45:08,420 --> 00:45:10,560
all in favor

835
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:12,440
aye thank you

836
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:14,400
development and planning we have eight

837
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:17,040
items on the agenda the first item is

838
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,720
authorization of an easy mix and

839
00:45:18,720 --> 00:45:20,220
national grid for the installation of an

840
00:45:20,220 --> 00:45:22,020
overhead electrical service in Central

841
00:45:22,020 --> 00:45:24,240
Park for the new pools and splash pads

842
00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:36,069
as well

843
00:45:36,079 --> 00:45:38,700
a larger three-phase service we have

844
00:45:38,700 --> 00:45:40,680
three-phase power at

845
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:43,500
facility in Greenhouse uh this is an

846
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:46,440
easement to bring uh to a new line with

847
00:45:46,440 --> 00:45:48,960
two new polls two approximity on Ashmore

848
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,940
Avenue where we'll then meet up and be

849
00:45:50,940 --> 00:45:54,839
able to power a new uh pool complex

850
00:45:54,839 --> 00:45:59,950
any questions

851
00:45:59,960 --> 00:46:02,160
thank you

852
00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:04,560
the next time uh I'll begin this

853
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,060
discussion Zoning for cannabis

854
00:46:06,060 --> 00:46:08,400
dispensary and smoke and vape shops bait

855
00:46:08,400 --> 00:46:09,180
shop

856
00:46:09,180 --> 00:46:11,339
so we've been talking about a lot about

857
00:46:11,339 --> 00:46:12,960
vape shops smoke shops and also about

858
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,540
the cannabis dispensary when we opted in

859
00:46:15,540 --> 00:46:17,040
we didn't have zoning in place that

860
00:46:17,040 --> 00:46:18,900
covered this so we've been talking to

861
00:46:18,900 --> 00:46:20,160
the Law Department here they've invited

862
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:21,480
everyone to actually come and have a

863
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:23,040
discussion so that we can talk about

864
00:46:23,040 --> 00:46:24,960
throughout the city where we'd like to

865
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,480
see these or or not like to see those so

866
00:46:27,480 --> 00:46:29,579
at this point in time it's really

867
00:46:29,579 --> 00:46:32,160
discussion around where we've um how the

868
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:33,420
council what the council would like to

869
00:46:33,420 --> 00:46:35,940
see Mr colon you can experience found

870
00:46:35,940 --> 00:46:37,319
that a little bit more

871
00:46:37,319 --> 00:46:39,240
um wanted to just kind of discuss what

872
00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:40,680
you'd like to see from the council in

873
00:46:40,680 --> 00:46:43,619
order to move this forward sure

874
00:46:43,619 --> 00:46:45,420
first I just want to thank the constant

875
00:46:45,420 --> 00:46:47,900
people who've stopped by to discuss

876
00:46:47,900 --> 00:46:51,480
zoning in I think a grander scale and

877
00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,480
also specific to these particular issues

878
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,640
facing the city

879
00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:57,300
um

880
00:46:57,300 --> 00:47:00,060
and I've been in contact with the

881
00:47:00,060 --> 00:47:02,280
development department to talk about you

882
00:47:02,280 --> 00:47:03,960
know best practices obviously and

883
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,520
certain constant people have let it be

884
00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:06,960
known to me

885
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:09,359
um their thoughts on you know what

886
00:47:09,359 --> 00:47:13,380
districts to allow it or whether or not

887
00:47:13,380 --> 00:47:16,319
the best route is an overlay

888
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:18,000
um you know I think

889
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:20,640
it's really on the council to determine

890
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:22,319
what is in the best interest of the City

891
00:47:22,319 --> 00:47:25,680
by and also rely on the expertise of the

892
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:26,940
development department and the other

893
00:47:26,940 --> 00:47:29,220
applicable departments

894
00:47:29,220 --> 00:47:31,440
you know I there are other

895
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:33,359
municipalities still grappling with this

896
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:34,800
issue

897
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:36,300
um you know Rochester has already

898
00:47:36,300 --> 00:47:39,720
codified how they're approaching

899
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:42,060
um cannabis dispensaries and obviously

900
00:47:42,060 --> 00:47:43,680
something that we've talked about is

901
00:47:43,680 --> 00:47:46,079
that smoke shops and vape shops for the

902
00:47:46,079 --> 00:47:47,520
purposes of zoning have to be treated

903
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,099
similarly similarly to cannabis

904
00:47:50,099 --> 00:47:52,740
dispensaries that came from New York

905
00:47:52,740 --> 00:47:54,560
State's regulations

906
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,480
and as it currently exists we don't have

907
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:59,760
anything when our zoning code was

908
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
established there was nothing that

909
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:05,520
foresaw this change in the Law related

910
00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,579
to cannabis dispensaries and smoke shops

911
00:48:08,579 --> 00:48:12,599
and vape shops becoming more common

912
00:48:12,599 --> 00:48:13,140
um

913
00:48:13,140 --> 00:48:16,140
currently as you're all aware there's

914
00:48:16,140 --> 00:48:18,359
this cannabis dispensary that's open on

915
00:48:18,359 --> 00:48:19,400
Upper Union

916
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:23,220
certainly we're at a point now where it

917
00:48:23,220 --> 00:48:24,839
would be very difficult for the city to

918
00:48:24,839 --> 00:48:26,640
do anything to stop that one

919
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:28,460
establishment however

920
00:48:28,460 --> 00:48:31,560
you know the council decided that you

921
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:34,800
know the Upper Union Corridor where that

922
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:36,720
current dispensary is is not somewhere

923
00:48:36,720 --> 00:48:38,780
where you want to see other dispensaries

924
00:48:38,780 --> 00:48:42,240
and you zone for that that would be a

925
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:44,940
pre-existing non-conforming business and

926
00:48:44,940 --> 00:48:46,819
they could still operate

927
00:48:46,819 --> 00:48:50,220
so you know I continue to encourage the

928
00:48:50,220 --> 00:48:52,260
council people to come in and talk to us

929
00:48:52,260 --> 00:48:53,839
talk to the development department

930
00:48:53,839 --> 00:48:56,339
particularly Christine premiano who

931
00:48:56,339 --> 00:48:59,280
knows zoning very well

932
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:01,579
um you know obviously

933
00:49:01,579 --> 00:49:05,220
there are aspects to this that are more

934
00:49:05,220 --> 00:49:06,900
complicated

935
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:08,520
um you know not just where are you going

936
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:10,380
to allow it but then what restrictions

937
00:49:10,380 --> 00:49:12,359
are you going to place on the businesses

938
00:49:12,359 --> 00:49:15,240
is it going to be as of right or you

939
00:49:15,240 --> 00:49:16,920
know in a particular District they could

940
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:18,720
operate as of right or are you going to

941
00:49:18,720 --> 00:49:20,700
require these types of businesses to get

942
00:49:20,700 --> 00:49:24,660
for example special use Improvement so

943
00:49:24,660 --> 00:49:27,180
um you know I I would prefer obviously

944
00:49:27,180 --> 00:49:29,480
that you know the council to

945
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,920
come forward or counsel people to come

946
00:49:31,920 --> 00:49:34,220
forward with a proposal

947
00:49:34,220 --> 00:49:36,720
certainly the Law Department can draft

948
00:49:36,720 --> 00:49:39,960
something but we don't you know to be

949
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:41,099
honest we don't want it to be coming

950
00:49:41,099 --> 00:49:44,400
from us we want it to be the council's

951
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,920
decision and changing the code and

952
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:48,300
obviously this is going to be something

953
00:49:48,300 --> 00:49:50,819
that is probably not going to pass right

954
00:49:50,819 --> 00:49:52,680
away without quite a bit of discussion

955
00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,859
to um you know figure out where the

956
00:49:55,859 --> 00:49:57,599
consensus is in terms of where it's

957
00:49:57,599 --> 00:49:59,940
going to be and then what restrictions

958
00:49:59,940 --> 00:50:02,400
um you know the council will place on

959
00:50:02,400 --> 00:50:04,020
the establishment of those types of

960
00:50:04,020 --> 00:50:06,240
businesses

961
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:08,220
happy to answer any questions you know

962
00:50:08,220 --> 00:50:10,319
either here or if anybody you know has a

963
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:12,000
question later on you know you know how

964
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:13,680
to reach out to me I'll try to make

965
00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:17,160
myself as available as necessary if you

966
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:19,920
want to come in to you know talk to me

967
00:50:19,920 --> 00:50:22,760
or talk to Mr Marnie talk to Ms primiano

968
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:25,500
we want to make ourselves available so

969
00:50:25,500 --> 00:50:27,300
that you know we can have something in

970
00:50:27,300 --> 00:50:38,950
our code sooner rather than later

971
00:50:38,960 --> 00:50:41,460
I think making it clear uh

972
00:50:41,460 --> 00:50:43,020
differentiation to anyone listening or

973
00:50:43,020 --> 00:50:45,420
also in the room regardless of where we

974
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:48,900
put uh zoning that doesn't restrict its

975
00:50:48,900 --> 00:50:50,880
usage throughout our city

976
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,099
generally that's correct yeah

977
00:50:53,099 --> 00:50:54,660
um you know for example if you go to The

978
00:50:54,660 --> 00:50:57,359
Dispensary on Upper Union you certainly

979
00:50:57,359 --> 00:50:59,160
you can make a purchase there and then

980
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,319
you know go through downtown and you

981
00:51:01,319 --> 00:51:03,059
know have whatever you purchase and and

982
00:51:03,059 --> 00:51:06,240
smoke it right or anywhere else in the

983
00:51:06,240 --> 00:51:08,280
city for that matter well we have a

984
00:51:08,280 --> 00:51:11,579
restrictions in the park right right

985
00:51:11,579 --> 00:51:13,020
um you know so long as this is not

986
00:51:13,020 --> 00:51:15,359
prohibited in certain places

987
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:16,859
um and obviously we've you know the

988
00:51:16,859 --> 00:51:19,559
council has taken action to restrict it

989
00:51:19,559 --> 00:51:21,140
in in Central Park

990
00:51:21,140 --> 00:51:24,000
right and and all the other parts for

991
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:25,380
that matter right

992
00:51:25,380 --> 00:51:28,500
um but certainly you know barring any

993
00:51:28,500 --> 00:51:30,960
other statute

994
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:33,119
um you can you know use it in another

995
00:51:33,119 --> 00:51:34,740
place

996
00:51:34,740 --> 00:51:37,980
um so it I know that I appreciate the

997
00:51:37,980 --> 00:51:39,420
question because I know some people

998
00:51:39,420 --> 00:51:42,119
think that it will create a limitation

999
00:51:42,119 --> 00:51:44,099
on where it can be used limitations

1000
00:51:44,099 --> 00:51:46,319
already exist

1001
00:51:46,319 --> 00:51:48,420
um but where it's not limited it would

1002
00:51:48,420 --> 00:51:53,030
therefore be permitted to be used

1003
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:55,859
as far as yeah I would just uh invite my

1004
00:51:55,859 --> 00:51:57,599
council members to consider um the

1005
00:51:57,599 --> 00:51:59,040
spirit in which this legislation was

1006
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:00,780
drafted with the state

1007
00:52:00,780 --> 00:52:02,460
um I think it's Unique in the way that

1008
00:52:02,460 --> 00:52:06,720
there is a you know uh social uh justice

1009
00:52:06,720 --> 00:52:09,420
component to this that um people who um

1010
00:52:09,420 --> 00:52:11,099
for marginalized communities who have

1011
00:52:11,099 --> 00:52:13,020
been disproportionately impacted by

1012
00:52:13,020 --> 00:52:14,640
prohibition laws

1013
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:17,040
um there's right written right in the um

1014
00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,500
in the legislation that you see from the

1015
00:52:19,500 --> 00:52:20,460
state

1016
00:52:20,460 --> 00:52:23,280
um that uh you know there is an effort

1017
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,740
to correct a historical wrong there so I

1018
00:52:25,740 --> 00:52:29,579
think that um as we consider zoning

1019
00:52:29,579 --> 00:52:31,559
um and we're you know prohibited uses

1020
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:33,300
things like that that we just are

1021
00:52:33,300 --> 00:52:34,740
mindful of we're looking through that

1022
00:52:34,740 --> 00:52:36,420
same lens of the spirit of the

1023
00:52:36,420 --> 00:52:41,290
legislation from the state

1024
00:52:41,300 --> 00:52:43,200
do you know right now where they are

1025
00:52:43,200 --> 00:52:45,720
there was a there was a stay on that a

1026
00:52:45,720 --> 00:52:47,700
hold on that because there was a lawsuit

1027
00:52:47,700 --> 00:52:49,500
so do you know where that lawsuit is

1028
00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:52,380
right now I think it currently is at a

1029
00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:54,420
place where uh there's an injunction

1030
00:52:54,420 --> 00:52:57,380
preventing uh the safe from issuing

1031
00:52:57,380 --> 00:52:59,880
licenses right now

1032
00:52:59,880 --> 00:53:01,980
um I have no idea what the timetable is

1033
00:53:01,980 --> 00:53:05,400
for you know that lawsuit

1034
00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:08,040
so I I and I'm not aware of any other

1035
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:10,980
entities seeking to do business in the

1036
00:53:10,980 --> 00:53:13,200
city of Schenectady that do have in hand

1037
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:15,540
a license other than the one that's

1038
00:53:15,540 --> 00:53:17,400
currently open

1039
00:53:17,400 --> 00:53:18,119
um

1040
00:53:18,119 --> 00:53:21,650
so you know

1041
00:53:21,660 --> 00:53:24,059
whether or not you know that lawsuit is

1042
00:53:24,059 --> 00:53:26,220
dragged out or

1043
00:53:26,220 --> 00:53:29,280
um or ends tomorrow uh obviously you

1044
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:31,079
know as you all know and I'm sure you

1045
00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:32,760
know people at home know

1046
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:34,559
um the zoning is going to have to

1047
00:53:34,559 --> 00:53:36,359
obviously be put in place we'd like it

1048
00:53:36,359 --> 00:53:38,460
to happen sooner rather than later but

1049
00:53:38,460 --> 00:53:40,260
you know we wanted to be relatively

1050
00:53:40,260 --> 00:53:42,720
comprehensive to address the concerns

1051
00:53:42,720 --> 00:53:44,880
that you all have and people of

1052
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:46,440
Schenectady have

1053
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,900
so in terms of timeline I mean how how

1054
00:53:48,900 --> 00:53:50,339
soon would you like all council members

1055
00:53:50,339 --> 00:53:51,960
to come and have discussions for us to

1056
00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:53,640
bring things to you so that we can have

1057
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:56,040
this done in somewhat of a timely manner

1058
00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:58,140
obviously you know I think that's really

1059
00:53:58,140 --> 00:54:00,059
a question for the council

1060
00:54:00,059 --> 00:54:02,520
um you know the sooner you come to us to

1061
00:54:02,520 --> 00:54:05,640
discuss it and kind of you know figure

1062
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:07,980
out you know where your fellow council

1063
00:54:07,980 --> 00:54:10,380
members stand on it and you know propose

1064
00:54:10,380 --> 00:54:11,819
something to the council you know

1065
00:54:11,819 --> 00:54:17,339
something tangible and to discuss and you know negotiate over the better

1066
00:54:17,339 --> 00:54:19,740
off I think will all be

1067
00:54:19,740 --> 00:54:21,720
um you know I couldn't tell you that you

1068
00:54:21,720 --> 00:54:22,319
know

1069
00:54:22,319 --> 00:54:24,839
next week is it you know a deadline I I

1070
00:54:24,839 --> 00:54:26,940
can't create that this is really a

1071
00:54:26,940 --> 00:54:29,280
question for the council in terms of you

1072
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,599
know and I've only spoken to some of you

1073
00:54:30,599 --> 00:54:32,760
about this where you stand on this and

1074
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,819
you know um what you see both in terms

1075
00:54:35,819 --> 00:54:38,280
of locations where you're going to you

1076
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,079
know where you believe we should allow

1077
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,780
it and then what restrictions we should

1078
00:54:42,780 --> 00:54:44,579
put in place and I say restrictions I

1079
00:54:44,579 --> 00:54:46,440
mean that not to say you can't do

1080
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,359
something but what types of permissions

1081
00:54:48,359 --> 00:54:50,040
is the city going to Grant whether it's

1082
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:52,260
a special use permit certainly so I

1083
00:54:52,260 --> 00:54:53,940
think that site plan approval if you're

1084
00:54:53,940 --> 00:54:55,579
going to open a new business

1085
00:54:55,579 --> 00:54:57,720
that's going to be a question for the

1086
00:54:57,720 --> 00:55:01,079
council but why you know I've been

1087
00:55:01,079 --> 00:55:02,460
saying it for a little while now you

1088
00:55:02,460 --> 00:55:04,140
know I encourage you to reach out to me

1089
00:55:04,140 --> 00:55:05,460
and you know share your thoughts I know

1090
00:55:05,460 --> 00:55:07,859
some of you have and I appreciate that

1091
00:55:07,859 --> 00:55:10,099
um you know the way I would view it is

1092
00:55:10,099 --> 00:55:12,720
start with the geographic areas in the

1093
00:55:12,720 --> 00:55:14,400
city where you think you know you're

1094
00:55:14,400 --> 00:55:16,319
okay with having those types of

1095
00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:18,480
businesses and then once you've

1096
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:20,960
identified that

1097
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:24,240
start thinking about the restrictions or

1098
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:25,740
the requirements they're going to in

1099
00:55:25,740 --> 00:55:27,900
place put in place for the sense of

1100
00:55:27,900 --> 00:55:30,849
businesses to operate

1101
00:55:30,859 --> 00:55:33,480
and there's already existing

1102
00:55:33,480 --> 00:55:35,700
restrictions in certain I mean for

1103
00:55:35,700 --> 00:55:38,819
example I keep hearing 11 000 puts in

1104
00:55:38,819 --> 00:55:41,460
terms of like not within a thousand

1105
00:55:41,460 --> 00:55:43,319
people to school I think I mean those

1106
00:55:43,319 --> 00:55:45,119
must be state regulations that we'd also

1107
00:55:45,119 --> 00:55:47,880
have to but I will give you a call I

1108
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,740
wasn't aware that um

1109
00:55:49,740 --> 00:55:52,260
doing that so that so we reach out to

1110
00:55:52,260 --> 00:55:53,760
you try to come in and have a one-on-one

1111
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,059
but there are existing restrictions

1112
00:55:57,059 --> 00:55:59,220
right the state has put in place certain

1113
00:55:59,220 --> 00:56:00,540
restrictions

1114
00:56:00,540 --> 00:56:02,760
um and they do they have made those

1115
00:56:02,760 --> 00:56:04,680
determinations when they've granted

1116
00:56:04,680 --> 00:56:06,599
licenses

1117
00:56:06,599 --> 00:56:09,900
um you know in other words you know if

1118
00:56:09,900 --> 00:56:11,520
you're within so many feet of a school

1119
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,400
the state will not issue a license to

1120
00:56:14,400 --> 00:56:15,480
begin with

1121
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:18,780
um it's based on the location not

1122
00:56:18,780 --> 00:56:20,700
necessarily just the entity that's

1123
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:22,680
looking to open it

1124
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,319
mayor

1125
00:56:25,319 --> 00:56:26,819
in that

1126
00:56:26,819 --> 00:56:30,140
with a thousand feet from school sounds

1127
00:56:30,140 --> 00:56:34,140
logical makes sense it actually reads a

1128
00:56:34,140 --> 00:56:35,819
thousand feet and the Second Street

1129
00:56:35,819 --> 00:56:38,640
right so where we had the

1130
00:56:38,640 --> 00:56:44,450
facility open uh or Union Street

1131
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:47,040
schools around the corner of Baker

1132
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:50,400
Avenue within that distance but it's not

1133
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:53,579
on the same street and so again I think

1134
00:56:53,579 --> 00:56:55,859
the state's intent who's in the right

1135
00:56:55,859 --> 00:56:57,359
direction but some of the actual

1136
00:56:57,359 --> 00:57:00,960
implementation was flawed yeah and so I

1137
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:03,059
totally agree we have to look at that

1138
00:57:03,059 --> 00:57:05,339
like we have

1139
00:57:05,339 --> 00:57:07,800
no smoking Zone around City Hall Ellis

1140
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:09,839
Hospital has one around their facility

1141
00:57:09,839 --> 00:57:12,540
so there are some facilities like the

1142
00:57:12,540 --> 00:57:14,880
city parks we're getting I think people

1143
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:18,660
accept it and make sense it's logical uh

1144
00:57:18,660 --> 00:57:20,819
in general it's not enforcement people

1145
00:57:20,819 --> 00:57:22,859
are compliant and how do we get that

1146
00:57:22,859 --> 00:57:25,079
message out and so that it's not

1147
00:57:25,079 --> 00:57:29,040
creating a negative impact for

1148
00:57:29,040 --> 00:57:31,260
other businesses or people who are in

1149
00:57:31,260 --> 00:57:35,750
the community

1150
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:38,040
any other questions regarding this Miss

1151
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:39,480
Williams I would say I know that

1152
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:41,640
councilman on palomini recommended the

1153
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:44,220
specific districts and I think just put

1154
00:57:44,220 --> 00:57:47,099
it out there for digestion I think my

1155
00:57:47,099 --> 00:57:49,020
only issue with that is just I feel like

1156
00:57:49,020 --> 00:57:50,760
it was very restrictive

1157
00:57:50,760 --> 00:57:51,480
um

1158
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,280
and my conversations that I've had with

1159
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:56,040
Mr Colton he's mentioned

1160
00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:57,540
probably leaning closer towards full

1161
00:57:57,540 --> 00:57:59,760
release just because of how our city is

1162
00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:02,400
currently district and how putting it in

1163
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:05,160
any one zoning can

1164
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,200
make things difficult moving forward for

1165
00:58:07,200 --> 00:58:08,940
us to manage within the city

1166
00:58:08,940 --> 00:58:12,000
and I think also

1167
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:13,980
going on his recommendation of using our

1168
00:58:13,980 --> 00:58:15,480
special use permits in a particular way

1169
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:17,700
I know for myself whenever I look at

1170
00:58:17,700 --> 00:58:19,619
potentially opening up the downtown area

1171
00:58:19,619 --> 00:58:21,839
one of the issues that we currently hear

1172
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:23,460
from not only

1173
00:58:23,460 --> 00:58:25,380
business owners but also residents and

1174
00:58:25,380 --> 00:58:27,900
people patronizing it is limited parking

1175
00:58:27,900 --> 00:58:31,079
so I think uh understanding where we

1176
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:33,420
would not want to see these areas is a

1177
00:58:33,420 --> 00:58:35,579
place to start and trying to make sure

1178
00:58:35,579 --> 00:58:36,780
that we make the most of each of these

1179
00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:37,859
conversations I think everyone

1180
00:58:37,859 --> 00:58:40,859
recognizes this is a big topic but I

1181
00:58:40,859 --> 00:58:42,359
think in addition to having our

1182
00:58:42,359 --> 00:58:43,920
one-on-one discussions I'm looking

1183
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:45,540
forward to having a discussion with

1184
00:58:45,540 --> 00:58:47,220
Kristen I keep hearing how she's the

1185
00:58:47,220 --> 00:58:49,799
subject matter expert in this area I

1186
00:58:49,799 --> 00:58:51,540
think I would like to hear if everyone

1187
00:58:51,540 --> 00:58:53,819
feels comfortable where you do not feel

1188
00:58:53,819 --> 00:58:54,839
comfortable with these types of

1189
00:58:54,839 --> 00:58:59,650
businesses existing in the city

1190
00:58:59,660 --> 00:59:03,480
I certainly appreciate the concerns I

1191
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,000
think they're valid

1192
00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,859
however the

1193
00:59:07,859 --> 00:59:10,079
recommendation for industrial zones is

1194
00:59:10,079 --> 00:59:11,520
similar to that that's been used for

1195
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,579
other businesses and types of activities

1196
00:59:14,579 --> 00:59:18,900
in the city it's nothing new secondly

1197
00:59:18,900 --> 00:59:21,540
we've also looked at things like for

1198
00:59:21,540 --> 00:59:22,980
instance specific neighborhoods with

1199
00:59:22,980 --> 00:59:24,900
liquor stores and we said we didn't want

1200
00:59:24,900 --> 00:59:28,940
them there so to

1201
00:59:28,940 --> 00:59:30,960
I guess

1202
00:59:30,960 --> 00:59:34,200
to say that we can't put those

1203
00:59:34,200 --> 00:59:37,680
restrictions or put those businesses in

1204
00:59:37,680 --> 00:59:41,099
certain areas where quite frankly the

1205
00:59:41,099 --> 00:59:43,980
parking issue is taken care of it

1206
00:59:43,980 --> 00:59:45,599
doesn't prevent people from using it

1207
00:59:45,599 --> 00:59:49,079
throughout the city it's a large space

1208
00:59:49,079 --> 00:59:51,480
in order for a business to operate it's

1209
00:59:51,480 --> 00:59:57,000
safe to meet the m1m2 zoning makes sense

1210
00:59:57,000 --> 00:59:59,640
but

1211
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,859
and it's been done for other other

1212
01:00:01,859 --> 01:00:04,140
businesses in other types of activities

1213
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:06,140
so I think

1214
01:00:06,140 --> 01:00:09,119
perhaps we need to take a little bit of

1215
01:00:09,119 --> 01:00:12,359
a further look into some of the things

1216
01:00:12,359 --> 01:00:14,339
that have happened previously in order

1217
01:00:14,339 --> 01:00:17,940
to really understand the zoning aspects

1218
01:00:17,940 --> 01:00:23,210
so that we can all be on the same page

1219
01:00:23,220 --> 01:00:25,079
so whatever that's all council members

1220
01:00:25,079 --> 01:00:27,540
to do is to submit is the 14th good

1221
01:00:27,540 --> 01:00:29,099
enough for the right time first half is

1222
01:00:29,099 --> 01:00:31,559
our next meeting the 14th okay to submit

1223
01:00:31,559 --> 01:00:33,960
your concerns your what you would like

1224
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,240
to see you know all of that to Mr Colvin

1225
01:00:36,240 --> 01:00:38,220
and also make sure miss Mike who's

1226
01:00:38,220 --> 01:00:42,480
included on that email to by the 14th so

1227
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:44,640
that we can then have this more in-depth

1228
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,160
discussion on the 18th which is our next

1229
01:00:47,160 --> 01:00:52,690
committee meeting

1230
01:00:52,700 --> 01:00:55,859
you know to definitely send in you know

1231
01:00:55,859 --> 01:00:57,359
some of your thoughts I think that this

1232
01:00:57,359 --> 01:00:58,980
is a situation where we want to be

1233
01:00:58,980 --> 01:01:01,619
really uh mindful that we're giving

1234
01:01:01,619 --> 01:01:03,599
input from the community

1235
01:01:03,599 --> 01:01:05,220
um so we're not making decisions based

1236
01:01:05,220 --> 01:01:06,720
on our limited scope I think that it's

1237
01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:07,859
really important that we engage your

1238
01:01:07,859 --> 01:01:09,180
community

1239
01:01:09,180 --> 01:01:10,980
um and talk to people so when we come to

1240
01:01:10,980 --> 01:01:12,299
the table we're not just bringing our

1241
01:01:12,299 --> 01:01:15,480
own ideas but maybe ideas that we can

1242
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:17,099
agree with or even disagree with just so

1243
01:01:17,099 --> 01:01:18,359
we know that I'm worthy for discussion

1244
01:01:18,359 --> 01:01:20,099
right so when we get to that you know

1245
01:01:20,099 --> 01:01:21,240
we're going to have a public discussion

1246
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:24,059
absolutely yeah between now and four

1247
01:01:24,059 --> 01:01:26,099
teams I think that it's worth it's

1248
01:01:26,099 --> 01:01:28,140
nobody for people to you know reach out

1249
01:01:28,140 --> 01:01:31,260
to the council member absolutely okay

1250
01:01:31,260 --> 01:01:33,119
any further discussion

1251
01:01:33,119 --> 01:01:34,920
okay so we'll bring this back in two

1252
01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:36,960
weeks

1253
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:39,540
our next item exception is establishing

1254
01:01:39,540 --> 01:01:41,700
a six-month moratorium

1255
01:01:41,700 --> 01:01:43,859
uh the submission and processing the

1256
01:01:43,859 --> 01:01:46,559
Builder building permits for uh Smoke

1257
01:01:46,559 --> 01:01:49,079
Shop Safe shops and tobacco and the

1258
01:01:49,079 --> 01:01:50,940
consumption businesses there was a

1259
01:01:50,940 --> 01:01:53,520
public hearing on uh the 14th during the

1260
01:01:53,520 --> 01:01:56,160
public hearing we had four speakers and

1261
01:01:56,160 --> 01:01:59,460
the speakers were mostly talking about

1262
01:01:59,460 --> 01:02:01,680
um the fact that what I got something

1263
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:04,079
from it that to close them or to not

1264
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:05,760
have them but this is really a

1265
01:02:05,760 --> 01:02:07,799
moratorium on the existing ones are

1266
01:02:07,799 --> 01:02:09,660
there and they're not that's not going

1267
01:02:09,660 --> 01:02:11,520
to change but the moratorium would be

1268
01:02:11,520 --> 01:02:14,640
that during that time no new ones could

1269
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:17,460
open so um open news up for a discussion

1270
01:02:17,460 --> 01:02:20,160
again at this point in time Mr Colden

1271
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,059
can explain what would the process be

1272
01:02:23,059 --> 01:02:28,190
if we were to move forward the

1273
01:02:28,200 --> 01:02:31,319
ordinance would be presented to the

1274
01:02:31,319 --> 01:02:34,799
planning department at the County uh for

1275
01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:36,480
review

1276
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:39,900
they have roughly 30 days to provide us

1277
01:02:39,900 --> 01:02:42,980
with their opinion on the moratorium

1278
01:02:42,980 --> 01:02:45,480
whether they're in favor of it or

1279
01:02:45,480 --> 01:02:47,700
against it or as I suppose have no

1280
01:02:47,700 --> 01:02:49,040
opinion of it

1281
01:02:49,040 --> 01:02:50,900
based on

1282
01:02:50,900 --> 01:02:53,940
the response from the county if the

1283
01:02:53,940 --> 01:02:57,900
county was to not be in favor of it that

1284
01:02:57,900 --> 01:02:59,640
doesn't prevent the city council from

1285
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:01,859
moving ahead with the ordinance but you

1286
01:03:01,859 --> 01:03:06,240
need a super majority to approve it if

1287
01:03:06,240 --> 01:03:09,240
the county were to come out in favor of

1288
01:03:09,240 --> 01:03:10,339
it

1289
01:03:10,339 --> 01:03:17,089
then it could pass by simple majority

1290
01:03:17,099 --> 01:03:19,079
fun especially if we are in that

1291
01:03:19,079 --> 01:03:22,569
questions

1292
01:03:22,579 --> 01:03:24,660
I know part of the discussion was

1293
01:03:24,660 --> 01:03:26,400
evaluating how important it was

1294
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,200
continuing on

1295
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:30,660
Mr Woodbury is not here at the moment Mr

1296
01:03:30,660 --> 01:03:32,880
May are able to speak to any progress

1297
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,480
made in that department

1298
01:03:35,480 --> 01:03:38,299
they continue to do that not only in

1299
01:03:38,299 --> 01:03:42,660
these shops but other venues who need a

1300
01:03:42,660 --> 01:03:46,160
certificate of occupancy need of

1301
01:03:46,160 --> 01:03:51,000
excuse me a public assembly permit

1302
01:03:51,000 --> 01:03:53,940
don't have a summary on that but I told

1303
01:03:53,940 --> 01:03:57,180
Jen that would have naeem call him

1304
01:03:57,180 --> 01:03:58,859
tomorrow if you want that put together

1305
01:03:58,859 --> 01:04:01,079
for the council as a whole we have it

1306
01:04:01,079 --> 01:04:04,680
set out assume tomorrow or first thing

1307
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:07,789
the following morning

1308
01:04:07,799 --> 01:04:10,440
and if I'm going to say if people get

1309
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:13,730
any complaints

1310
01:04:13,740 --> 01:04:17,700
call them into naive because again we

1311
01:04:17,700 --> 01:04:19,559
can generally know all the places some

1312
01:04:19,559 --> 01:04:22,260
have popped up and are trying to be

1313
01:04:22,260 --> 01:04:27,049
compliant other ones are

1314
01:04:27,059 --> 01:04:29,040
going down with a classified's an

1315
01:04:29,040 --> 01:04:34,430
interesting pathway for opening business

1316
01:04:34,440 --> 01:04:38,940
Miss Williams and the only reason why I mentioned that and please chairman is

1317
01:04:38,940 --> 01:04:40,319
to call them if I summarize anything you

1318
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:43,079
say inaccurately moving forward with the

1319
01:04:43,079 --> 01:04:45,720
moratorium is a very serious action that

1320
01:04:45,720 --> 01:04:47,760
the city is going to undertake and I

1321
01:04:47,760 --> 01:04:49,500
think it is important for us to hedge

1322
01:04:49,500 --> 01:04:51,059
our vets and continue moving forward

1323
01:04:51,059 --> 01:04:54,059
with that as an action item however if

1324
01:04:54,059 --> 01:04:56,880
it is not needed I absolutely would like

1325
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,559
to stress the importance of cautioning

1326
01:04:58,559 --> 01:05:00,839
and then if we're identifying that the

1327
01:05:00,839 --> 01:05:03,480
enforcement is curbing a lot of those

1328
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,980
concerns that we've had and been

1329
01:05:04,980 --> 01:05:08,220
receiving from the public I think that is something that should be taken

1330
01:05:08,220 --> 01:05:09,839
into consideration when we essentially

1331
01:05:09,839 --> 01:05:14,390
approve or deny move forward with

1332
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,520
Mr Farley I would just um kind of echo

1333
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,020
what Mr Williams was saying I believe

1334
01:05:19,020 --> 01:05:21,660
that it's best for us to graduating

1335
01:05:21,660 --> 01:05:23,819
interventions and I think that we'll

1336
01:05:23,819 --> 01:05:26,819
know um once we get the um information

1337
01:05:26,819 --> 01:05:28,440
um from the name I think that we're in a

1338
01:05:28,440 --> 01:05:30,299
better position to make a more informed

1339
01:05:30,299 --> 01:05:31,740
decision on what we're going to do

1340
01:05:31,740 --> 01:05:33,540
moving forward and I think that that um

1341
01:05:33,540 --> 01:05:35,400
would just be a wise choice to make sure

1342
01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:36,780
that we have the information in front of

1343
01:05:36,780 --> 01:05:44,049
us before we uh make a decision

1344
01:05:44,059 --> 01:05:47,040
the moratorium only makes sense I mean

1345
01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:50,040
we're talking three four months at the

1346
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:51,900
most if we do our business

1347
01:05:51,900 --> 01:05:54,000
um those that are already in the

1348
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:56,180
pipeline of being

1349
01:05:56,180 --> 01:05:59,400
granted ability to open business they're

1350
01:05:59,400 --> 01:06:01,799
not impacted at all it would just be

1351
01:06:01,799 --> 01:06:03,299
those who are looking that's going to

1352
01:06:03,299 --> 01:06:05,220
take some time anyway probably a couple

1353
01:06:05,220 --> 01:06:07,020
months so we're talking about maybe a

1354
01:06:07,020 --> 01:06:08,940
month or two of the most we've done

1355
01:06:08,940 --> 01:06:10,440
these in the past there's been no

1356
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:13,559
comment about these being Extreme

1357
01:06:13,559 --> 01:06:16,099
Measures we've done them with with other

1358
01:06:16,099 --> 01:06:19,260
activities like convenience stores it's

1359
01:06:19,260 --> 01:06:22,799
been no issue you can quite frankly you

1360
01:06:22,799 --> 01:06:24,960
probably didn't do a very good job on

1361
01:06:24,960 --> 01:06:26,700
that in my opinion of what the

1362
01:06:26,700 --> 01:06:29,760
convenience stores of getting the zoning

1363
01:06:29,760 --> 01:06:32,940
done in an effective and efficient

1364
01:06:32,940 --> 01:06:35,760
manner but if we did our business an

1365
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,440
appropriate manner here we're talking a

1366
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:40,619
matter of three four months it helps the

1367
01:06:40,619 --> 01:06:42,900
enforcement aspect because if a new

1368
01:06:42,900 --> 01:06:45,000
store pops up you automatically know

1369
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:48,780
they're illegal um and it allows the

1370
01:06:48,780 --> 01:06:51,420
enforcement aspect of ketchup to those

1371
01:06:51,420 --> 01:06:53,640
businesses that are out there to the

1372
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,180
mayor's point of dealing with those

1373
01:06:57,180 --> 01:06:59,280
businesses that are doing

1374
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:01,619
appropriate map we have a number of

1375
01:07:01,619 --> 01:07:03,420
business who are but there's also those

1376
01:07:03,420 --> 01:07:05,760
who aren't so this just gives us the

1377
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:08,400
time to catch up get our act together

1378
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:11,400
get the zoning done relatively rapidly

1379
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:15,000
and figure out how to go down that road

1380
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:16,920
and make sure that the complaints we're

1381
01:07:16,920 --> 01:07:19,380
getting from the neighborhoods stop

1382
01:07:19,380 --> 01:07:22,020
because there is significance of concern

1383
01:07:22,020 --> 01:07:23,760
has been brought up with several

1384
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:25,319
neighborhood association meetings

1385
01:07:25,319 --> 01:07:28,740
particularly Bellevue and some other

1386
01:07:28,740 --> 01:07:31,559
neighborhoods of there's too many smoke

1387
01:07:31,559 --> 01:07:33,839
shops within this area we know some of

1388
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:37,020
them weren't properly open and this

1389
01:07:37,020 --> 01:07:39,299
gives us the chance to

1390
01:07:39,299 --> 01:07:41,579
really catch up with the enforcement but

1391
01:07:41,579 --> 01:07:48,109
also deal with the zoning issue

1392
01:07:48,119 --> 01:07:50,280
Mr Golden to the

1393
01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:52,020
Barney actually that mentions something

1394
01:07:52,020 --> 01:07:52,859
about

1395
01:07:52,859 --> 01:07:53,760
um

1396
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:55,680
that we're if we talk about doing some

1397
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:58,020
moratorium on smoke shops and do we have

1398
01:07:58,020 --> 01:07:59,339
to consider

1399
01:07:59,339 --> 01:08:01,140
um other shops that have like use like

1400
01:08:01,140 --> 01:08:02,640
we're talking about the Cannabis so can

1401
01:08:02,640 --> 01:08:05,880
you talk about how that all interacts

1402
01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:08,819
sure and the way Mr Marne had phrased it

1403
01:08:08,819 --> 01:08:11,400
previously is called a drastic measure

1404
01:08:11,400 --> 01:08:12,550
which it is

1405
01:08:12,550 --> 01:08:14,039
[Music]

1406
01:08:14,039 --> 01:08:17,040
this only applies to vape shops smoke

1407
01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,040
shops and similar youth shops it doesn't

1408
01:08:20,040 --> 01:08:23,239
apply to cannabis the state has occupied

1409
01:08:23,239 --> 01:08:27,420
that space in regulating cannabis

1410
01:08:27,420 --> 01:08:29,400
lounges and dispensaries so this would

1411
01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,420
not apply to those types of businesses

1412
01:08:33,420 --> 01:08:35,640
so be limited to the smoke shops vape

1413
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:38,520
shops and similar crops that do not

1414
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:42,120
include cannabis dispensaries

1415
01:08:42,120 --> 01:08:44,339
so what's before us now is that we would

1416
01:08:44,339 --> 01:08:46,319
if we were to move forward it would go

1417
01:08:46,319 --> 01:08:48,179
30 days they would have their knees have

1418
01:08:48,179 --> 01:08:50,460
to come back to the council once again

1419
01:08:50,460 --> 01:08:53,520
correct so the

1420
01:08:53,520 --> 01:08:55,140
presumably if the council were to move

1421
01:08:55,140 --> 01:08:58,080
ahead with this next week

1422
01:08:58,080 --> 01:09:00,779
um it would then and if it passes it

1423
01:09:00,779 --> 01:09:02,520
would then go to the county development

1424
01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:05,699
Agency for review and they have 30 days

1425
01:09:05,699 --> 01:09:07,380
and then it would come back and during

1426
01:09:07,380 --> 01:09:09,779
that time period obviously you know the

1427
01:09:09,779 --> 01:09:11,460
council can you know obviously be

1428
01:09:11,460 --> 01:09:14,520
getting the the zoning process of these

1429
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,739
types of businesses and it could be that

1430
01:09:16,739 --> 01:09:19,199
30 days from now or 30 days from when

1431
01:09:19,199 --> 01:09:20,580
you send it to the count the account

1432
01:09:20,580 --> 01:09:21,660
date

1433
01:09:21,660 --> 01:09:22,259
um

1434
01:09:22,259 --> 01:09:24,600
you know you've established zoning and

1435
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:26,759
you have something set you don't have to

1436
01:09:26,759 --> 01:09:28,259
move forward with the moratorium at that

1437
01:09:28,259 --> 01:09:30,900
time however at least you know you start

1438
01:09:30,900 --> 01:09:32,699
the process by sending into the county

1439
01:09:32,699 --> 01:09:34,880
that doesn't require you to take action

1440
01:09:34,880 --> 01:09:37,319
if the county were to come out in favor

1441
01:09:37,319 --> 01:09:40,199
of a moratorium or be supportive of it

1442
01:09:40,199 --> 01:09:42,060
Council can still say we're not going to

1443
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:45,420
move ahead to them Mr Farley I would say

1444
01:09:45,420 --> 01:09:48,660
just um in to be responsive to what

1445
01:09:48,660 --> 01:09:50,940
we're hearing from the community and um

1446
01:09:50,940 --> 01:09:53,160
uh definitely neighborhood association

1447
01:09:53,160 --> 01:09:55,080
meetings and they're expressing as a

1448
01:09:55,080 --> 01:09:57,660
concern I guess to Mr Coleman's point of

1449
01:09:57,660 --> 01:10:00,600
moving forward what uh

1450
01:10:00,600 --> 01:10:02,760
take away the opportunity for us to get

1451
01:10:02,760 --> 01:10:05,520
the information from name and we still

1452
01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:06,719
have the opportunity to look at that

1453
01:10:06,719 --> 01:10:08,820
information and then decide whether we

1454
01:10:08,820 --> 01:10:10,380
want to move forward or not and if we're

1455
01:10:10,380 --> 01:10:12,420
already you know but I guess it would be

1456
01:10:12,420 --> 01:10:14,219
wise to move forward therefore you still

1457
01:10:14,219 --> 01:10:16,140
have that opportunity if not we can just

1458
01:10:16,140 --> 01:10:18,480
you know we'll be somewhat wasting time

1459
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:19,560
where we don't need to waste time

1460
01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:21,179
because we decide that's the action we

1461
01:10:21,179 --> 01:10:22,500
need to take try to give us the

1462
01:10:22,500 --> 01:10:23,699
opportunity to make a definitive

1463
01:10:23,699 --> 01:10:25,320
reaction but again I just really want to

1464
01:10:25,320 --> 01:10:26,760
stress the importance of making an

1465
01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,380
informed decision based on the

1466
01:10:28,380 --> 01:10:29,460
information that we're getting from

1467
01:10:29,460 --> 01:10:31,620
Uncle enforcement

1468
01:10:31,620 --> 01:10:33,540
so at this point in time we would still

1469
01:10:33,540 --> 01:10:35,580
want to um just for clarification to

1470
01:10:35,580 --> 01:10:37,980
make get the information from naive and

1471
01:10:37,980 --> 01:10:40,380
the motion that the question before us

1472
01:10:40,380 --> 01:10:42,300
now is whether or not we move this

1473
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:45,780
forward to refer to accounting

1474
01:10:45,780 --> 01:10:49,260
come here thank you my personal purpose

1475
01:10:49,260 --> 01:10:51,360
would be sending to a county get their

1476
01:10:51,360 --> 01:10:52,460
input

1477
01:10:52,460 --> 01:10:56,040
and I could not asked anybody in terms

1478
01:10:56,040 --> 01:10:58,620
of the towns or Villages within the

1479
01:10:58,620 --> 01:11:01,380
county or I think they're there's

1480
01:11:01,380 --> 01:11:04,260
similar activities whether it have risen

1481
01:11:04,260 --> 01:11:05,880
to the point of being an irritant

1482
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:08,940
whether it's under review but Canada

1483
01:11:08,940 --> 01:11:11,880
County look at it and send it back in a

1484
01:11:11,880 --> 01:11:13,620
fairly quick turnaround and then the

1485
01:11:13,620 --> 01:11:16,320
council could act an appropriate Banner

1486
01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,900
having had you know another set of eyes

1487
01:11:18,900 --> 01:11:27,530
on it in another level of input

1488
01:11:27,540 --> 01:11:28,980
the lovely commotion that we send we

1489
01:11:28,980 --> 01:11:32,640
send it forward to the county for review

1490
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:35,340
take the next steps from there good

1491
01:11:35,340 --> 01:11:39,830
I second that all in favor

1492
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,840
okay our next sign on the agenda is the

1493
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:44,280
ceremonial resolution for junior

1494
01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:46,620
League's International Mr palomini yes

1495
01:11:46,620 --> 01:11:48,260
they have a

1496
01:11:48,260 --> 01:11:51,000
inaugural finally birthday on September

1497
01:11:51,000 --> 01:11:54,719
14th and uh they would just like to call

1498
01:11:54,719 --> 01:11:56,760
some attention to this so it's a

1499
01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,820
ceremonial resolution to recognize that

1500
01:11:59,820 --> 01:12:04,330
thing

1501
01:12:04,340 --> 01:12:07,689
five times

1502
01:12:07,699 --> 01:12:11,400
is to follow up on the arbor context

1503
01:12:11,400 --> 01:12:13,860
um where we are at this point and to be

1504
01:12:13,860 --> 01:12:15,420
sent in information so it's probably

1505
01:12:15,420 --> 01:12:17,400
going to be a pretty lengthy discussion

1506
01:12:17,400 --> 01:12:19,020
Mr

1507
01:12:19,020 --> 01:12:21,719
um Mr Ferrari has sent everyone every

1508
01:12:21,719 --> 01:12:24,000
council member a packet in addition to

1509
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:28,500
emailing it to you that in hard copy

1510
01:12:28,500 --> 01:12:35,460
um so rev I know that maybe you know if

1511
01:12:35,460 --> 01:12:37,080
there's a specific order here but I

1512
01:12:37,080 --> 01:12:38,159
noticed that there are a lot of people

1513
01:12:38,159 --> 01:12:39,060
here

1514
01:12:39,060 --> 01:12:42,239
from the Miracle on Craig Street and so

1515
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:43,920
for that reason I will move it up to the

1516
01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:45,900
top of this discussion so we can do that

1517
01:12:45,900 --> 01:12:47,219
so you don't have to stay through our

1518
01:12:47,219 --> 01:12:48,540
entire discussion unless you want to

1519
01:12:48,540 --> 01:12:57,430
okay

1520
01:12:57,440 --> 01:12:59,940
so at this point in time council members

1521
01:12:59,940 --> 01:13:01,800
you all have the information of uh how

1522
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:03,900
much has been allocated

1523
01:13:03,900 --> 01:13:06,179
um what date is appropriated and where

1524
01:13:06,179 --> 01:13:08,820
that particular project stands right now

1525
01:13:08,820 --> 01:13:10,560
there is one other thing I want to bring

1526
01:13:10,560 --> 01:13:12,540
up before we get to that discussion I

1527
01:13:12,540 --> 01:13:14,820
sent the email to Mr um Holden always

1528
01:13:14,820 --> 01:13:16,679
today though to ask him to take a look

1529
01:13:16,679 --> 01:13:20,480
at at the overview of the arbor uh arpa

1530
01:13:20,480 --> 01:13:24,300
guidelines because there's based on what

1531
01:13:24,300 --> 01:13:27,060
I'm seeing there's a possibility that

1532
01:13:27,060 --> 01:13:30,360
there may be a shorter time frame three

1533
01:13:30,360 --> 01:13:32,659
months shorter time frame in in

1534
01:13:32,659 --> 01:13:36,120
2026 for people to actually spend the

1535
01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,280
money so I was getting I read it and

1536
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:40,560
before I sent out the alarm I wanted Mr

1537
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:42,900
Colton to read it to make sure that I

1538
01:13:42,900 --> 01:13:44,940
interpreted that correctly so that we

1539
01:13:44,940 --> 01:13:47,580
stay on time in terms of the money that

1540
01:13:47,580 --> 01:13:50,640
we've allocated and what people are um

1541
01:13:50,640 --> 01:13:52,199
and how people are spending it making

1542
01:13:52,199 --> 01:13:54,300
sure we need that timeline so you can

1543
01:13:54,300 --> 01:13:56,520
let me know I will let you know I

1544
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,440
haven't come up with a conclusion yet I

1545
01:13:58,440 --> 01:13:59,940
want to look at some backup information

1546
01:13:59,940 --> 01:14:02,100
so that you know I don't want to give

1547
01:14:02,100 --> 01:14:04,260
you the wrong answer obviously okay

1548
01:14:04,260 --> 01:14:06,659
so could you start with bear plant where

1549
01:14:06,659 --> 01:14:09,360
all that Romeo with that oh yeah of

1550
01:14:09,360 --> 01:14:10,199
course

1551
01:14:10,199 --> 01:14:12,239
um today I believe we have some

1552
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:13,560
representative representatives from

1553
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:16,080
Miracle Craig to discuss uh their

1554
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:17,880
project today I don't know if you'd like

1555
01:14:17,880 --> 01:14:20,040
me to come up and then go over every

1556
01:14:20,040 --> 01:14:21,900
other project

1557
01:14:21,900 --> 01:14:23,760
after that or if you would like to start

1558
01:14:23,760 --> 01:14:25,500
so I'd like you to start with how much

1559
01:14:25,500 --> 01:14:27,780
invalidated um of course yeah where we

1560
01:14:27,780 --> 01:14:30,560
are with that and what the request is

1561
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:34,560
uh as a date from the documents that

1562
01:14:34,560 --> 01:14:36,659
Anthony Ferrari commissioner provided

1563
01:14:36,659 --> 01:14:41,760
you the certification of 1.25 million

1564
01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:45,290
dollars and

1565
01:14:45,300 --> 01:14:47,760
I know that we had there's one year from

1566
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:50,340
822 you get the secure Financial

1567
01:14:50,340 --> 01:14:53,699
commitments from other sources

1568
01:14:53,699 --> 01:14:55,920
um and that's all I have for now they

1569
01:14:55,920 --> 01:15:05,450
let

1570
01:15:05,460 --> 01:15:14,510
tonight

1571
01:15:14,520 --> 01:15:16,669
okay

1572
01:15:16,679 --> 01:15:18,719
so according to the documentation

1573
01:15:18,719 --> 01:15:21,179
provide to us with the estimate of

1574
01:15:21,179 --> 01:15:24,659
construction uh the probable estimate of

1575
01:15:24,659 --> 01:15:27,000
the project cost of approximately three

1576
01:15:27,000 --> 01:15:29,580
million dollars and it looks like

1577
01:15:29,580 --> 01:15:33,179
there's an area one and area two uh two

1578
01:15:33,179 --> 01:15:36,530
different phases of that

1579
01:15:36,540 --> 01:15:41,209
so we appropriate 1.25

1580
01:15:41,219 --> 01:15:44,820
and I know that the this stuff is really

1581
01:15:44,820 --> 01:15:46,679
small so I brought my laptop so I can

1582
01:15:46,679 --> 01:15:49,800
read it so the contingency was one year

1583
01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:53,880
from 822 22 to get to secure Financial

1584
01:15:53,880 --> 01:15:57,120
commitments and other resources and

1585
01:15:57,120 --> 01:15:57,960
um

1586
01:15:57,960 --> 01:15:59,940
and right now then there was an ass by

1587
01:15:59,940 --> 01:16:00,780
tat

1588
01:16:00,780 --> 01:16:04,380
for a in process maybe the extension

1589
01:16:04,380 --> 01:16:07,860
okay so go yeah

1590
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:09,600
for the extension

1591
01:16:09,600 --> 01:16:11,460
um well we'll want to hear from them

1592
01:16:11,460 --> 01:16:16,750
yeah

1593
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:29,890
this is

1594
01:16:29,900 --> 01:16:34,850
for the public

1595
01:16:34,860 --> 01:16:37,199
all right so um

1596
01:16:37,199 --> 01:16:40,440
so the status of the project is that the

1597
01:16:40,440 --> 01:16:43,739
estimate has been growing as the months

1598
01:16:43,739 --> 01:16:46,020
pass as you're aware of code sent all of

1599
01:16:46,020 --> 01:16:48,420
our construction costs into the

1600
01:16:48,420 --> 01:16:50,159
stratosphere and we've been trying to

1601
01:16:50,159 --> 01:16:52,980
contain the electrons as possible what

1602
01:16:52,980 --> 01:16:56,890
we've done is uh

1603
01:16:56,900 --> 01:16:59,159
we have finished the construction

1604
01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:02,280
documents so everybody's welcome to leak

1605
01:17:02,280 --> 01:17:04,620
through that video issues the whole

1606
01:17:04,620 --> 01:17:07,560
project is activated and I you just feel

1607
01:17:07,560 --> 01:17:09,120
that we don't really know what the

1608
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:11,340
actual cost could possibly be until we

1609
01:17:11,340 --> 01:17:13,080
get to this so we had to walk through

1610
01:17:13,080 --> 01:17:15,239
coming through on Friday we have

1611
01:17:15,239 --> 01:17:16,860
contractors

1612
01:17:16,860 --> 01:17:17,760
um

1613
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,460
that we've restructure from every corner

1614
01:17:20,460 --> 01:17:22,800
and we're hoping to get some good dollar

1615
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,540
bids and then we ignorance actually

1616
01:17:24,540 --> 01:17:27,120
what's the deficit is so my

1617
01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,320
understanding right now is that you're

1618
01:17:28,320 --> 01:17:29,880
requesting a four-month extension from

1619
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:39,830
the council okay

1620
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:41,659
so

1621
01:17:41,659 --> 01:17:44,880
yes so that four-month extension is to

1622
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,380
come up they need to come up with the

1623
01:17:46,380 --> 01:17:48,060
rest of the money to the 3 million or

1624
01:17:48,060 --> 01:17:49,800
whatever it is that you're estimating as

1625
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,020
the project budget we believe that in

1626
01:17:52,020 --> 01:17:53,640
those four months we will know what the

1627
01:17:53,640 --> 01:17:56,280
actual costs are and Rosa's here to tell

1628
01:17:56,280 --> 01:17:58,739
you about the other

1629
01:17:58,739 --> 01:18:00,540
possible sources that have been

1630
01:18:00,540 --> 01:18:03,780
approached and how that will

1631
01:18:03,780 --> 01:18:04,460
um

1632
01:18:04,460 --> 01:18:06,659
contingency I believe that we put on the

1633
01:18:06,659 --> 01:18:09,179
project was that they one point the rest

1634
01:18:09,179 --> 01:18:11,880
of the yeah is yes the rest of money

1635
01:18:11,880 --> 01:18:13,140
that they would have to come up with and

1636
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:16,920
now that money is more because the

1637
01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,199
project costs have decreased

1638
01:18:19,199 --> 01:18:22,850
so I just wanted to be clear about that

1639
01:18:22,860 --> 01:18:26,470
um

1640
01:18:26,480 --> 01:18:28,320
well first of all do any other

1641
01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:30,239
councilman just have questions regarding

1642
01:18:30,239 --> 01:18:32,100
that um what's been said so far in terms

1643
01:18:32,100 --> 01:18:34,140
of the project and considering that

1644
01:18:34,140 --> 01:18:35,520
they're asking for an extension to the

1645
01:18:35,520 --> 01:18:38,159
end of the year to get through your get

1646
01:18:38,159 --> 01:18:39,900
through the bidding process get some

1647
01:18:39,900 --> 01:18:41,460
contractors on board you can work with

1648
01:18:41,460 --> 01:18:43,860
you can go down the cost to quickly if

1649
01:18:43,860 --> 01:18:45,239
we can usually contractors separate

1650
01:18:45,239 --> 01:18:48,480
ideas on that and if we have to put the

1651
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:52,620
project into occupancy in two phases

1652
01:18:52,620 --> 01:18:56,159
um we fit it that way so we'll know that

1653
01:18:56,159 --> 01:18:58,080
how much we could actually accomplish

1654
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:03,780
with your 1.25 and we've designed it such that the

1655
01:19:03,780 --> 01:19:06,179
building is occupiable at that point

1656
01:19:06,179 --> 01:19:08,520
so it may not be fully occupied but it

1657
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:12,300
is fully accessible toilets or match the

1658
01:19:12,300 --> 01:19:15,659
occupancy and many of the programs would

1659
01:19:15,659 --> 01:19:17,280
be able to

1660
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,199
answer I haven't been called before

1661
01:19:19,199 --> 01:19:20,820
Smithfield I think we've already set

1662
01:19:20,820 --> 01:19:22,860
with code enforcement and looked at the

1663
01:19:22,860 --> 01:19:24,360
two

1664
01:19:24,360 --> 01:19:27,960
kind of a base approach okay okay

1665
01:19:27,960 --> 01:19:30,960
so you wanted you wanted to tell us

1666
01:19:30,960 --> 01:19:32,159
where your other funding is coming from

1667
01:19:32,159 --> 01:19:33,840
if that is a that's a that's a huge

1668
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:34,580
question

1669
01:19:34,580 --> 01:19:37,140
what's the date you have the bids coming

1670
01:19:37,140 --> 01:19:51,890
back in 26th September 26th okay

1671
01:19:51,900 --> 01:19:51,950
um

1672
01:19:51,950 --> 01:19:53,300
[Music]

1673
01:19:53,300 --> 01:19:56,280
my name is Rosa Rivera I'm the director

1674
01:19:56,280 --> 01:19:58,920
of Miracle On Christ Street

1675
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,659
um so right now I really uh was planning

1676
01:20:03,659 --> 01:20:05,219
to talk a little bit about programming

1677
01:20:05,219 --> 01:20:09,540
but I'll jump into sustainability perks

1678
01:20:09,540 --> 01:20:12,600
um so what we're looking at to bring in

1679
01:20:12,600 --> 01:20:13,860
the rest of the money for the capital

1680
01:20:13,860 --> 01:20:16,080
project is

1681
01:20:16,080 --> 01:20:17,239
um

1682
01:20:17,239 --> 01:20:21,179
two Grant applications one is the

1683
01:20:21,179 --> 01:20:23,840
historical preservation program grant

1684
01:20:23,840 --> 01:20:27,960
for African-American spaces this grant

1685
01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,480
is a state Grant and it's up to you can

1686
01:20:30,480 --> 01:20:32,100
apply up to five hundred thousand

1687
01:20:32,100 --> 01:20:36,780
dollars for Capital Renovations we've

1688
01:20:36,780 --> 01:20:39,560
had our eye on this for quite a while

1689
01:20:39,560 --> 01:20:42,500
and we've gotten some letters of support

1690
01:20:42,500 --> 01:20:45,239
to apply for this grant it's opening

1691
01:20:45,239 --> 01:20:48,480
back up September 9th and we're also

1692
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:52,260
looking at a niska grant which is also

1693
01:20:52,260 --> 01:20:54,860
for Capital Improvements

1694
01:20:54,860 --> 01:20:59,640
which Barb had sent us it's I believe

1695
01:20:59,640 --> 01:21:02,699
you can apply for up to 250 000 so those

1696
01:21:02,699 --> 01:21:06,199
are both opening up this week

1697
01:21:06,199 --> 01:21:07,920
and

1698
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:10,800
um we've met with some of our County

1699
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:12,600
legislators

1700
01:21:12,600 --> 01:21:15,719
um hoping that they will support us and

1701
01:21:15,719 --> 01:21:17,219
piecing together the rest of this

1702
01:21:17,219 --> 01:21:20,340
funding to open a building they're

1703
01:21:20,340 --> 01:21:22,699
supposed to be discussing our project

1704
01:21:22,699 --> 01:21:25,320
with the rest of the county legislators

1705
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,500
this week as well

1706
01:21:27,500 --> 01:21:30,120
we were really hoping when we started

1707
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:34,560
our bid process that you know the 1.25

1708
01:21:34,560 --> 01:21:37,260
would be like the majority of the money

1709
01:21:37,260 --> 01:21:40,500
for this project and as you have heard

1710
01:21:40,500 --> 01:21:42,620
the crisis have went up

1711
01:21:42,620 --> 01:21:46,980
and have increased quite a bit so we've

1712
01:21:46,980 --> 01:21:49,739
kind of had to switch gears a little bit

1713
01:21:49,739 --> 01:21:51,780
getting just kind of the budget back

1714
01:21:51,780 --> 01:21:55,580
from Barb and then going into the bid

1715
01:21:55,580 --> 01:22:00,000
process a few you know last week or so

1716
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:01,679
um

1717
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:04,440
so that's our plan

1718
01:22:04,440 --> 01:22:08,040
um I think that nobody wants to wrap up

1719
01:22:08,040 --> 01:22:10,920
this Capital project more than me

1720
01:22:10,920 --> 01:22:13,320
um I'm really hoping that these next

1721
01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,600
four months can

1722
01:22:15,600 --> 01:22:17,820
um help us to bring in the rest of this

1723
01:22:17,820 --> 01:22:19,679
money that we're successful with these

1724
01:22:19,679 --> 01:22:22,739
Grant applications of course having the

1725
01:22:22,739 --> 01:22:26,880
Arca award really is a point of Leverage

1726
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:29,520
or the other applications and also for

1727
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,520
the county to support us so we're really

1728
01:22:32,520 --> 01:22:35,340
hoping that we can close that Gap and

1729
01:22:35,340 --> 01:22:36,900
make it happen

1730
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:39,120
by January

1731
01:22:39,120 --> 01:22:39,900
um

1732
01:22:39,900 --> 01:22:43,020
so that's what our plan is for bringing

1733
01:22:43,020 --> 01:22:47,340
the capital money yes it's the other two

1734
01:22:47,340 --> 01:22:49,620
Grant applications when will you hear

1735
01:22:49,620 --> 01:22:51,480
about the result of those Grant

1736
01:22:51,480 --> 01:22:53,219
applications within this four-month

1737
01:22:53,219 --> 01:22:54,420
period you'll know whether you're going

1738
01:22:54,420 --> 01:22:56,460
to get that funding yeah we should hear

1739
01:22:56,460 --> 01:22:58,679
from them by the end of the quarter in

1740
01:22:58,679 --> 01:23:01,370
December

1741
01:23:01,380 --> 01:23:03,060
and do you know how much you're asking

1742
01:23:03,060 --> 01:23:05,760
for from the county

1743
01:23:05,760 --> 01:23:07,120
so

1744
01:23:07,120 --> 01:23:07,980
[Music]

1745
01:23:07,980 --> 01:23:09,480
um

1746
01:23:09,480 --> 01:23:14,000
we have the 500 000 for the

1747
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:16,980
African-American preservation Grant 250

1748
01:23:16,980 --> 01:23:20,280
from the capital and then we do have a

1749
01:23:20,280 --> 01:23:22,980
hundred and fifty thousand dollar award

1750
01:23:22,980 --> 01:23:25,140
for Metroplex that's still on the table

1751
01:23:25,140 --> 01:23:28,140
kind of waiting for the bids to come

1752
01:23:28,140 --> 01:23:29,699
back in

1753
01:23:29,699 --> 01:23:31,380
um as well they're kind of you know

1754
01:23:31,380 --> 01:23:33,060
waiting for the same thing that you guys

1755
01:23:33,060 --> 01:23:34,679
are waiting for

1756
01:23:34,679 --> 01:23:36,840
um so it would be the Gap to that I

1757
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:39,300
don't have that number in my mind right

1758
01:23:39,300 --> 01:23:41,159
now

1759
01:23:41,159 --> 01:23:44,460
any other questions Mr palomini in this

1760
01:23:44,460 --> 01:23:46,020
past year how much money have you

1761
01:23:46,020 --> 01:23:48,060
actually raised

1762
01:23:48,060 --> 01:23:50,699
for the capital projects

1763
01:23:50,699 --> 01:23:53,400
so we've got some small grants I think I

1764
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:56,520
put them in the cover letter for

1765
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:58,679
um kind of like maintenance

1766
01:23:58,679 --> 01:24:03,590
um painting the building doing

1767
01:24:03,600 --> 01:24:04,199
um

1768
01:24:04,199 --> 01:24:06,659
you guys know we have had

1769
01:24:06,659 --> 01:24:09,120
um kind of like a quasi site control of

1770
01:24:09,120 --> 01:24:11,100
the property so we we have had to

1771
01:24:11,100 --> 01:24:13,679
maintain the property since the pandemic

1772
01:24:13,679 --> 01:24:16,620
and you know begin to do some volunteer

1773
01:24:16,620 --> 01:24:19,159
Renovations there were new things we

1774
01:24:19,159 --> 01:24:22,020
have shown a little bit of kind of like

1775
01:24:22,020 --> 01:24:24,780
our progress in the presentation that we

1776
01:24:24,780 --> 01:24:29,090
sent to you guys

1777
01:24:29,100 --> 01:24:32,040
so it's about 44 000. that's probably

1778
01:24:32,040 --> 01:24:33,780
the number that I had yeah I just wasn't

1779
01:24:33,780 --> 01:24:38,930
sure if there was another

1780
01:24:38,940 --> 01:24:41,520
so at this point in time on the requesty

1781
01:24:41,520 --> 01:24:43,980
forces to give a four-month extension to

1782
01:24:43,980 --> 01:24:47,280
get the bids all in and also to

1783
01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,620
um get that Gap and funding closed

1784
01:24:49,620 --> 01:24:52,140
Mr Farley I guess my question would be

1785
01:24:52,140 --> 01:24:54,540
um because number one I appreciate you

1786
01:24:54,540 --> 01:24:56,520
know the primaries and efforts and the

1787
01:24:56,520 --> 01:24:57,540
things that you're doing because you

1788
01:24:57,540 --> 01:24:59,820
guys are basically working in the

1789
01:24:59,820 --> 01:25:01,860
community right now which I think says a

1790
01:25:01,860 --> 01:25:03,420
lot to your commitment

1791
01:25:03,420 --> 01:25:05,100
um and already offering some Services

1792
01:25:05,100 --> 01:25:07,199
some pretty uh amazing things happening

1793
01:25:07,199 --> 01:25:08,940
right now so I want to congratulate you

1794
01:25:08,940 --> 01:25:10,860
on that definitely I'm just thinking um

1795
01:25:10,860 --> 01:25:13,140
is the four months a lot of time going

1796
01:25:13,140 --> 01:25:15,420
to be enough time because I think that

1797
01:25:15,420 --> 01:25:18,900
as we see you know places materials are

1798
01:25:18,900 --> 01:25:22,040
coming up and I know that um

1799
01:25:22,040 --> 01:25:24,500
covert has impacted a

1800
01:25:24,500 --> 01:25:26,640
significant impact on their ability and

1801
01:25:26,640 --> 01:25:28,320
kind of forecast when things can get

1802
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:31,040
done and whether to fall within you know

1803
01:25:31,040 --> 01:25:33,719
what the expected price range was I was

1804
01:25:33,719 --> 01:25:36,120
wondering do you think that maybe even

1805
01:25:36,120 --> 01:25:37,500
um offering yourself a little more

1806
01:25:37,500 --> 01:25:39,360
cushion time so you don't have to come

1807
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,659
back and ask your mother I don't I just don't know anything that that would

1808
01:25:42,659 --> 01:25:44,520
be possible and I know you want to get

1809
01:25:44,520 --> 01:25:45,960
this done and believe we have our own

1810
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:47,760
deadlines ever working with them as well

1811
01:25:47,760 --> 01:25:49,800
I just wanted to um put that out there

1812
01:25:49,800 --> 01:25:53,040
and see what you're doing

1813
01:25:53,040 --> 01:25:55,800
um well Barb actually thought that six

1814
01:25:55,800 --> 01:25:57,900
months would be better and we kind of

1815
01:25:57,900 --> 01:26:00,840
went back and forth on that

1816
01:26:00,840 --> 01:26:04,560
um for the purpose of the vids I think

1817
01:26:04,560 --> 01:26:06,840
the purpose of

1818
01:26:06,840 --> 01:26:09,179
raising the rest of the capital I'm

1819
01:26:09,179 --> 01:26:12,780
really pushing for that four months

1820
01:26:12,780 --> 01:26:14,960
I don't know if you wanted to say a word

1821
01:26:14,960 --> 01:26:17,820
well just my concern is is if we don't

1822
01:26:17,820 --> 01:26:19,620
get enough Bitters and we feel like we

1823
01:26:19,620 --> 01:26:21,320
need to go back up to bed

1824
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:23,460
you know at least we'll have some sense

1825
01:26:23,460 --> 01:26:24,179
of

1826
01:26:24,179 --> 01:26:28,790
dollar Valley Ranch

1827
01:26:28,800 --> 01:26:31,440
to you guys I think more time is always

1828
01:26:31,440 --> 01:26:33,060
a little more cushion is always safe

1829
01:26:33,060 --> 01:26:35,810
perfect

1830
01:26:35,820 --> 01:26:37,500
well I just want to remind you that

1831
01:26:37,500 --> 01:26:39,060
we're working within time frame no the

1832
01:26:39,060 --> 01:26:40,199
federal government has given us a time

1833
01:26:40,199 --> 01:26:42,540
frame right so we that's not that

1834
01:26:42,540 --> 01:26:44,639
doesn't change it won't change so we

1835
01:26:44,639 --> 01:26:46,139
have to stay within that the question

1836
01:26:46,139 --> 01:26:48,360
for Mr Google I don't remember the

1837
01:26:48,360 --> 01:26:52,460
legislation is it need to be allocated

1838
01:26:52,460 --> 01:26:57,540
2024 right and the 25th yes I'm gonna

1839
01:26:57,540 --> 01:26:58,920
answer that

1840
01:26:58,920 --> 01:27:02,460
man hey man president

1841
01:27:02,460 --> 01:27:05,639
yeah the reality is that

1842
01:27:05,639 --> 01:27:09,179
the financial plan is somewhat weak here

1843
01:27:09,179 --> 01:27:11,840
we're also seeing that with the

1844
01:27:11,840 --> 01:27:14,060
Empowerment Center

1845
01:27:14,060 --> 01:27:16,199
there's supposed to be some discussion

1846
01:27:16,199 --> 01:27:18,960
to see whether miracle and Craig and

1847
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:20,840
Empowerment Center could work together

1848
01:27:20,840 --> 01:27:24,600
in a joint project

1849
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:26,219
where we take some of the money that

1850
01:27:26,219 --> 01:27:28,139
we're going in both directions put it in

1851
01:27:28,139 --> 01:27:29,699
one project to get something that's

1852
01:27:29,699 --> 01:27:32,100
successful as opposed to two that we're

1853
01:27:32,100 --> 01:27:34,679
not able to finance and just wondered

1854
01:27:34,679 --> 01:27:36,600
what your position was on that or any

1855
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:38,340
discussion it's been having on that

1856
01:27:38,340 --> 01:27:39,960
topic

1857
01:27:39,960 --> 01:27:42,540
yeah so

1858
01:27:42,540 --> 01:27:45,360
um can I just go into a tidbit about

1859
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:48,600
programming correctly and circle into

1860
01:27:48,600 --> 01:27:50,580
that no I don't think that we don't do

1861
01:27:50,580 --> 01:27:54,420
that okay very many many times okay whoa

1862
01:27:54,420 --> 01:27:56,940
so I guess in short

1863
01:27:56,940 --> 01:27:59,820
um we're really looking at uh our

1864
01:27:59,820 --> 01:28:01,920
programming spoke has changed to focus

1865
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:04,400
on kind of like holistic Women's Health

1866
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:07,139
I think that we would be of course open

1867
01:28:07,139 --> 01:28:09,480
to collaborating with the Empowerment

1868
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:12,360
Center I don't know fully what their

1869
01:28:12,360 --> 01:28:14,340
scope is I think it's around Workforce

1870
01:28:14,340 --> 01:28:17,760
Development so it's definitely kind of

1871
01:28:17,760 --> 01:28:21,780
very different uh what we're doing I

1872
01:28:21,780 --> 01:28:24,420
think we could you know put it all Under

1873
01:28:24,420 --> 01:28:27,900
One Roof I don't know if

1874
01:28:27,900 --> 01:28:29,780
um it would make the most sense

1875
01:28:29,780 --> 01:28:32,880
programmatically kind of having people

1876
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:35,000
come in for

1877
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,219
uh Women's Health Services and dual

1878
01:28:38,219 --> 01:28:40,500
services and lactation counseling and

1879
01:28:40,500 --> 01:28:43,800
yoga and Workforce Development

1880
01:28:43,800 --> 01:28:46,460
um maybe I'm open to the conversation

1881
01:28:46,460 --> 01:28:50,520
and I express that to Ron and Kristen so

1882
01:28:50,520 --> 01:28:52,560
I'm happy to to have that and talk about

1883
01:28:52,560 --> 01:28:54,719
it more so now I have to step back

1884
01:28:54,719 --> 01:28:56,940
because I thought that the programming

1885
01:28:56,940 --> 01:28:59,840
was really focused on youth programs

1886
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,420
a community center I mean that is what

1887
01:29:03,420 --> 01:29:04,860
we have heard in the past I think that

1888
01:29:04,860 --> 01:29:06,420
was the Grant application that we

1889
01:29:06,420 --> 01:29:08,880
received from the Carver Community

1890
01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,980
Center the arbor application I don't

1891
01:29:10,980 --> 01:29:13,219
think talked to women's holistic health

1892
01:29:13,219 --> 01:29:16,080
so although I just said Gee we don't

1893
01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:17,820
need to hear about the programming it

1894
01:29:17,820 --> 01:29:19,260
now sounds like there's a change in

1895
01:29:19,260 --> 01:29:20,880
emphasis

1896
01:29:20,880 --> 01:29:22,739
on what condition of the cargo Community

1897
01:29:22,739 --> 01:29:25,980
Center is as close to what you have been

1898
01:29:25,980 --> 01:29:29,580
coming to us for in the past they said

1899
01:29:29,580 --> 01:29:31,800
did you get to read through the yeah

1900
01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,860
okay

1901
01:29:33,860 --> 01:29:35,820
I just wanted to make sure that you had

1902
01:29:35,820 --> 01:29:38,760
it yeah okay well yeah all right did you

1903
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:40,500
want to speak for that

1904
01:29:40,500 --> 01:29:41,280
um

1905
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:43,500
sure I

1906
01:29:43,500 --> 01:29:45,560
um so in the past

1907
01:29:45,560 --> 01:29:48,900
we have kind of expressed not a youth

1908
01:29:48,900 --> 01:29:51,540
center was always a family center but

1909
01:29:51,540 --> 01:29:54,840
more of like a catch-all kind of Center

1910
01:29:54,840 --> 01:29:57,179
where we would rely more on Partners to

1911
01:29:57,179 --> 01:30:00,719
come in and run programming but over the

1912
01:30:00,719 --> 01:30:04,020
past four years or so I've been

1913
01:30:04,020 --> 01:30:06,060
practicing as a doula and a yoga

1914
01:30:06,060 --> 01:30:07,940
instructor prenatal yoga instructor

1915
01:30:07,940 --> 01:30:10,980
there's a large kind of Public Health

1916
01:30:10,980 --> 01:30:13,260
Initiative around maternal health and

1917
01:30:13,260 --> 01:30:15,480
there's some big legislation happening

1918
01:30:15,480 --> 01:30:17,840
next year with some

1919
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:20,760
reimbursements around dual services and

1920
01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:24,000
getting people access to some of the

1921
01:30:24,000 --> 01:30:27,000
resources that we've been piloting over

1922
01:30:27,000 --> 01:30:29,219
the last two years I've kind of put in

1923
01:30:29,219 --> 01:30:31,920
the packet a little bit about that and

1924
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,900
some of the grants that we received from

1925
01:30:33,900 --> 01:30:36,420
those pilot programs

1926
01:30:36,420 --> 01:30:40,560
um so I think that it has shifted a bit

1927
01:30:40,560 --> 01:30:43,679
um but we never kind of um we're

1928
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:45,480
planning to be like a youth Drop in

1929
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:47,040
Center

1930
01:30:47,040 --> 01:30:49,500
um but I think as we came

1931
01:30:49,500 --> 01:30:52,139
um back to the council and we spoke

1932
01:30:52,139 --> 01:30:54,780
several times and just working with our

1933
01:30:54,780 --> 01:30:57,360
board you know we really needed to have

1934
01:30:57,360 --> 01:31:00,960
a foundation and work from our strengths

1935
01:31:00,960 --> 01:31:04,080
and you know be able to have programs

1936
01:31:04,080 --> 01:31:06,000
that we can sustain and then we can have

1937
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,820
additional Partners come in and you know

1938
01:31:08,820 --> 01:31:10,560
the community come in and utilize the

1939
01:31:10,560 --> 01:31:12,600
center but we really needed a game plan

1940
01:31:12,600 --> 01:31:16,679
to you know keep the center open Mr

1941
01:31:16,679 --> 01:31:19,080
Farley So to that point

1942
01:31:19,080 --> 01:31:21,420
um um yes with the large initiatives

1943
01:31:21,420 --> 01:31:22,980
that we see on the state and federal

1944
01:31:22,980 --> 01:31:24,840
level on what you're talking about I

1945
01:31:24,840 --> 01:31:26,340
think that that speaks to sustainability

1946
01:31:26,340 --> 01:31:29,880
so we're not so what we described as a

1947
01:31:29,880 --> 01:31:31,080
shift

1948
01:31:31,080 --> 01:31:32,880
um I think is also it was not only being

1949
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:34,560
responsible for sustainability but

1950
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:37,199
responsive to the community and I would

1951
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:37,739
um

1952
01:31:37,739 --> 01:31:48,070
foreign

1953
01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:51,300
some of the benefits from being

1954
01:31:51,300 --> 01:31:52,920
Grassroots and I know we're used to

1955
01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:56,340
funding kind of big box nonprofits

1956
01:31:56,340 --> 01:31:58,020
um who've been around and been operating

1957
01:31:58,020 --> 01:32:00,060
for some time I think the reason why we

1958
01:32:00,060 --> 01:32:01,320
want to make sure that we're supporting

1959
01:32:01,320 --> 01:32:02,400
these type of things just for that

1960
01:32:02,400 --> 01:32:04,320
reason because you have the ability to

1961
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,179
be responsible to the community and need

1962
01:32:06,179 --> 01:32:08,280
and it's also clearly an issue of equity

1963
01:32:08,280 --> 01:32:10,560
which is why we have to be mindful in

1964
01:32:10,560 --> 01:32:11,760
our approach when we're funding things

1965
01:32:11,760 --> 01:32:13,260
that we're doing in the heck of a manner

1966
01:32:13,260 --> 01:32:16,320
that we're not um just funding again our

1967
01:32:16,320 --> 01:32:19,199
large big box non-profits because that's

1968
01:32:19,199 --> 01:32:20,639
what we think some oil that's been done

1969
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:22,620
and I think this coven money

1970
01:32:22,620 --> 01:32:24,540
um there's language in in the

1971
01:32:24,540 --> 01:32:26,699
legislation that speaks to um

1972
01:32:26,699 --> 01:32:28,620
communities that are greater impacted by

1973
01:32:28,620 --> 01:32:30,719
covert which Hamilton Hill is one of

1974
01:32:30,719 --> 01:32:32,699
those communities so I just wanted us to

1975
01:32:32,699 --> 01:32:34,679
be mindful and um and make sure that

1976
01:32:34,679 --> 01:32:36,300
we're being intentional about the way

1977
01:32:36,300 --> 01:32:38,100
we're receiving this information and

1978
01:32:38,100 --> 01:32:40,560
never allowing you to operate with them

1979
01:32:40,560 --> 01:32:41,699
at school and it seems like that's what

1980
01:32:41,699 --> 01:32:50,930
you're doing so thank

1981
01:32:50,940 --> 01:32:53,040
okay

1982
01:32:53,040 --> 01:32:55,500
Mr William uh first and foremost the

1983
01:32:55,500 --> 01:32:57,179
efforts that you and your team have

1984
01:32:57,179 --> 01:32:59,880
taken on our affordable uh you

1985
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:01,800
continuing this narrative over the past

1986
01:33:01,800 --> 01:33:04,560
few years has required a lot of strength

1987
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:06,360
and energy and that should not go

1988
01:33:06,360 --> 01:33:08,880
unnoticed I think where we're currently

1989
01:33:08,880 --> 01:33:10,679
at as a council and then correct me if

1990
01:33:10,679 --> 01:33:13,020
I'm wrong man McCarthy this project has

1991
01:33:13,020 --> 01:33:15,060
to be of success not just because the

1992
01:33:15,060 --> 01:33:16,620
impact it'll have within this

1993
01:33:16,620 --> 01:33:18,060
neighborhood but also the resounding

1994
01:33:18,060 --> 01:33:20,040
impossible in the community this has to

1995
01:33:20,040 --> 01:33:23,940
work whenever I hear of extensions my

1996
01:33:23,940 --> 01:33:25,199
mind immediately goes through all right

1997
01:33:25,199 --> 01:33:27,480
what is this success rate now as we're

1998
01:33:27,480 --> 01:33:29,100
functioning with a shortened timeline

1999
01:33:29,100 --> 01:33:31,440
and I hope that you appreciate just my

2000
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:32,719
frankness

2001
01:33:32,719 --> 01:33:34,620
definitely there's going to come a

2002
01:33:34,620 --> 01:33:37,800
conversation topic ordinary of

2003
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:40,800
is this project success succeedable

2004
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,900
under its current management

2005
01:33:42,900 --> 01:33:45,060
and please I would like to hear everyone

2006
01:33:45,060 --> 01:33:47,100
else's opinion and I don't think that is

2007
01:33:47,100 --> 01:33:49,440
doing a discredible to what has been

2008
01:33:49,440 --> 01:33:51,420
continuing on but I think with hearing

2009
01:33:51,420 --> 01:33:52,920
as we're then getting closer to this

2010
01:33:52,920 --> 01:33:56,520
December 2024 date my fear is will we

2011
01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:58,020
then not have an opportunity to

2012
01:33:58,020 --> 01:34:01,080
reallocate this money as equitably as a

2013
01:34:01,080 --> 01:34:04,380
as we need to so that it's not lost Miss

2014
01:34:04,380 --> 01:34:05,699
Patrick I would like to Echo that

2015
01:34:05,699 --> 01:34:07,920
because I think that we've had I mean

2016
01:34:07,920 --> 01:34:09,179
I've only

2017
01:34:09,179 --> 01:34:10,679
just in the time that I've been on

2018
01:34:10,679 --> 01:34:13,860
Council we've had extensions before

2019
01:34:13,860 --> 01:34:15,900
um I think but none of our non-verbal

2020
01:34:15,900 --> 01:34:18,380
money not on our but on other other

2021
01:34:18,380 --> 01:34:21,840
things related so my question so I hear

2022
01:34:21,840 --> 01:34:24,000
what Mr Williams is saying and I share

2023
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:25,560
that concern

2024
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:26,880
um and I guess I was going to flip the

2025
01:34:26,880 --> 01:34:29,520
question that Mr Farley had which is so

2026
01:34:29,520 --> 01:34:31,920
you get to the end of the four months

2027
01:34:31,920 --> 01:34:33,600
um if you haven't received these other

2028
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:36,719
grants what is your you what is your

2029
01:34:36,719 --> 01:34:37,739
plan

2030
01:34:37,739 --> 01:34:40,920
yours and the boards in terms of when do

2031
01:34:40,920 --> 01:34:42,420
you say okay we've been working on this

2032
01:34:42,420 --> 01:34:44,699
now for I think eight eight or nine

2033
01:34:44,699 --> 01:34:46,080
years

2034
01:34:46,080 --> 01:34:48,000
um like what's your next step if you

2035
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:51,410
don't get this funding

2036
01:34:51,420 --> 01:34:56,639
so I think that you know

2037
01:34:56,639 --> 01:34:59,450
um

2038
01:34:59,460 --> 01:35:01,860
I think the next step if we don't

2039
01:35:01,860 --> 01:35:05,159
receive the funding right and we don't

2040
01:35:05,159 --> 01:35:05,699
um

2041
01:35:05,699 --> 01:35:08,040
and we lose the award right that's what

2042
01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,840
we're talking about

2043
01:35:09,840 --> 01:35:12,480
um I think we would

2044
01:35:12,480 --> 01:35:16,920
um have to scale back and and look at a

2045
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,199
different space I think the thing that

2046
01:35:19,199 --> 01:35:21,960
we're already doing and we're working

2047
01:35:21,960 --> 01:35:25,260
out of the stocking and inner Bliss you

2048
01:35:25,260 --> 01:35:27,420
know it's not quite in the neighborhood

2049
01:35:27,420 --> 01:35:30,000
in the community that we want to work in

2050
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:33,179
and that we live in and so we have to

2051
01:35:33,179 --> 01:35:35,520
really look at that and you know but

2052
01:35:35,520 --> 01:35:39,010
yeah I'm

2053
01:35:39,020 --> 01:35:42,239
and I I say that with all respect to the

2054
01:35:42,239 --> 01:35:44,219
effort that you as as Mr Williams did

2055
01:35:44,219 --> 01:35:47,280
you know the efforts that you've put in

2056
01:35:47,280 --> 01:35:49,080
um I hope you're hearing that because I

2057
01:35:49,080 --> 01:35:50,820
certainly have watched and seen the word

2058
01:35:50,820 --> 01:35:52,260
that work they're doing over these last

2059
01:35:52,260 --> 01:35:53,880
several years

2060
01:35:53,880 --> 01:35:56,580
um but I just do have that concern Mr

2061
01:35:56,580 --> 01:35:59,580
Farley well number one I appreciate the

2062
01:35:59,580 --> 01:36:00,960
concerns of the council members I think

2063
01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:02,159
that it's important that we are

2064
01:36:02,159 --> 01:36:05,100
considering you know what the forecast could

2065
01:36:05,100 --> 01:36:06,780
possibly look like

2066
01:36:06,780 --> 01:36:08,340
um again I would just you know say that

2067
01:36:08,340 --> 01:36:10,199
you know the same way that you know any

2068
01:36:10,199 --> 01:36:12,840
other project that um we have funded in

2069
01:36:12,840 --> 01:36:15,480
the city um there's contingencies and

2070
01:36:15,480 --> 01:36:18,179
the contingencies aren't met then our

2071
01:36:18,179 --> 01:36:19,800
responsibility to the city of

2072
01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:21,600
Schenectady is to move forward

2073
01:36:21,600 --> 01:36:23,699
accordingly and I don't see

2074
01:36:23,699 --> 01:36:25,500
um anything being different from Miracle

2075
01:36:25,500 --> 01:36:27,540
on Crabtree and I'd also just uh you

2076
01:36:27,540 --> 01:36:29,100
know just in plain language I mean like

2077
01:36:29,100 --> 01:36:31,739
you know it's important that you know if

2078
01:36:31,739 --> 01:36:33,840
we want this project to be successful

2079
01:36:33,840 --> 01:36:35,940
when we think this as a valuable project

2080
01:36:35,940 --> 01:36:38,880
you know Miracle correctly exactly is

2081
01:36:38,880 --> 01:36:41,100
asking for you know a specific amount of

2082
01:36:41,100 --> 01:36:42,840
money in a specific amount of timeline

2083
01:36:42,840 --> 01:36:45,120
if you feel that um the money

2084
01:36:45,120 --> 01:36:47,280
um if they need more money you know and

2085
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:48,900
we have more money to support them

2086
01:36:48,900 --> 01:36:50,880
that's always an option

2087
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:53,639
um so I I welcome that on from federal

2088
01:36:53,639 --> 01:36:55,080
council members if you feel that this is

2089
01:36:55,080 --> 01:36:57,780
a project that's important and speaks to

2090
01:36:57,780 --> 01:37:00,000
the our needs of the community and again

2091
01:37:00,000 --> 01:37:02,580
it's a very unique project

2092
01:37:02,580 --> 01:37:04,980
um and again and we talk the language of

2093
01:37:04,980 --> 01:37:07,739
equity a lot and and what we do about

2094
01:37:07,739 --> 01:37:10,080
this is a way to demonstrate equity and

2095
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,219
to make sure that we're getting the

2096
01:37:11,219 --> 01:37:13,980
project what it needs to be successful

2097
01:37:13,980 --> 01:37:15,719
um and I think that we have an

2098
01:37:15,719 --> 01:37:17,159
obligation to do that and I think that

2099
01:37:17,159 --> 01:37:19,020
Our obligation stops once we come to our

2100
01:37:19,020 --> 01:37:20,760
reasonable agreement and if Marathon

2101
01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,400
pressure is unable to make uh fulfill

2102
01:37:23,400 --> 01:37:25,080
the agreement they're no different than

2103
01:37:25,080 --> 01:37:26,460
anyone else who's not able to fulfill

2104
01:37:26,460 --> 01:37:28,260
the agreement then um they want to

2105
01:37:28,260 --> 01:37:30,000
receive the funding but I think that um

2106
01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:32,040
it's important that we demonstrate

2107
01:37:32,040 --> 01:37:33,960
equity in our practice right now not

2108
01:37:33,960 --> 01:37:36,540
just again talk about it

2109
01:37:36,540 --> 01:37:40,860
so again sorry I just wanted to

2110
01:37:40,860 --> 01:37:44,040
piggyback off that um you know how do

2111
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:45,920
you know my boyfriend here

2112
01:37:45,920 --> 01:37:48,120
manufacturing team

2113
01:37:48,120 --> 01:37:50,820
um five times News basketball champion

2114
01:37:50,820 --> 01:37:55,080
um I just wanted to I know we said we

2115
01:37:55,080 --> 01:37:56,280
weren't going to talk about programming

2116
01:37:56,280 --> 01:37:58,139
but that seems to be coming up a whole

2117
01:37:58,139 --> 01:38:00,120
lot here at this table and I just wanted

2118
01:38:00,120 --> 01:38:02,940
to um touch on the programs that are

2119
01:38:02,940 --> 01:38:04,980
existing uh without being in the

2120
01:38:04,980 --> 01:38:06,540
physical building

2121
01:38:06,540 --> 01:38:09,960
um use mural program that I run myself

2122
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:11,699
um also the community and police

2123
01:38:11,699 --> 01:38:13,620
basketball league that has ran

2124
01:38:13,620 --> 01:38:16,739
successfully uh six years straight we

2125
01:38:16,739 --> 01:38:18,120
haven't done in the past year obviously

2126
01:38:18,120 --> 01:38:19,620
because of the construction we had done

2127
01:38:19,620 --> 01:38:21,360
in Jerry Burrell Park

2128
01:38:21,360 --> 01:38:24,000
um so just wanted to touch base on that

2129
01:38:24,000 --> 01:38:26,040
also the Partnerships I mean we're kind

2130
01:38:26,040 --> 01:38:27,900
of getting into the weeds but again

2131
01:38:27,900 --> 01:38:30,840
questions have arised at this table that

2132
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:32,040
you said we weren't going to talk about

2133
01:38:32,040 --> 01:38:34,500
but you guys have valid concerns so just

2134
01:38:34,500 --> 01:38:36,080
want to make sure that we address them

2135
01:38:36,080 --> 01:38:39,239
so Community fathers we plan on housing

2136
01:38:39,239 --> 01:38:40,739
men in the space which they'll bring

2137
01:38:40,739 --> 01:38:43,139
their own programming in that rooms are

2138
01:38:43,139 --> 01:38:45,360
spoke to along with we've been talking

2139
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:46,739
to Schenectady City School District

2140
01:38:46,739 --> 01:38:49,400
about their continuing ed programming

2141
01:38:49,400 --> 01:38:51,960
and Barbara mentioned a very important

2142
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:58,570
part about

2143
01:38:58,580 --> 01:39:02,520
so as Mr Farley stated we are Grassroots

2144
01:39:02,520 --> 01:39:04,739
so we're not you know we have to treat

2145
01:39:04,739 --> 01:39:06,540
this project

2146
01:39:06,540 --> 01:39:09,480
not differently but kind of right we

2147
01:39:09,480 --> 01:39:11,940
have to if we're talking about Equity

2148
01:39:11,940 --> 01:39:13,440
um you know support will look kind of

2149
01:39:13,440 --> 01:39:14,460
different

2150
01:39:14,460 --> 01:39:16,739
um so I just wanted to speak to what we

2151
01:39:16,739 --> 01:39:18,239
have done already I don't know if you

2152
01:39:18,239 --> 01:39:19,860
guys got a chance to kind of browse

2153
01:39:19,860 --> 01:39:21,600
through our slideshow but we've done a

2154
01:39:21,600 --> 01:39:23,699
lot over the years and especially in the

2155
01:39:23,699 --> 01:39:25,020
past year

2156
01:39:25,020 --> 01:39:26,880
um so there hasn't been like a huge

2157
01:39:26,880 --> 01:39:29,280
shift in programming it just looks

2158
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:31,679
different because it's it's being geared

2159
01:39:31,679 --> 01:39:34,560
more towards family and not just you if

2160
01:39:34,560 --> 01:39:36,600
that makes sense I just wanted to add

2161
01:39:36,600 --> 01:39:37,400
that

2162
01:39:37,400 --> 01:39:40,080
so our discussion right in this point in

2163
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:42,179
time is whether we whether we give the

2164
01:39:42,179 --> 01:39:47,699
four-month extension and then see where our miracle-under in four months

2165
01:39:47,699 --> 01:39:49,800
I'd make a motion to give the full month

2166
01:39:49,800 --> 01:39:52,199
extension oh second all those in favor

2167
01:39:52,199 --> 01:39:55,800
aye thank you thank you extension you're

2168
01:39:55,800 --> 01:39:58,820
welcome is this for you

2169
01:39:58,820 --> 01:40:00,900
don't give feedback

2170
01:40:00,900 --> 01:40:03,790
yeah

2171
01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:18,649
okay Derek you can come back

2172
01:40:18,659 --> 01:40:25,629
did you continue

2173
01:40:25,639 --> 01:40:41,169
okay it is it's right right even for me

2174
01:40:41,179 --> 01:40:43,639
so do you want to go in order for things

2175
01:40:43,639 --> 01:41:07,390
and we'll follow you

2176
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:09,540
looks like they're still going to be

2177
01:41:09,540 --> 01:41:13,800
sure uh 795 000 if they get all that

2178
01:41:13,800 --> 01:41:14,699
money

2179
01:41:14,699 --> 01:41:19,610
approximately

2180
01:41:19,620 --> 01:41:21,600
but those amounts they say that they

2181
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:24,420
said up until up to so it doesn't mean

2182
01:41:24,420 --> 01:41:27,120
they're going to get a 250 yeah I just

2183
01:41:27,120 --> 01:41:29,880
wanted to throw that up there and um the

2184
01:41:29,880 --> 01:41:35,100
accounts I didn't realize that so

2185
01:41:35,100 --> 01:41:37,800
um I think so Anthony Ferrari sent you

2186
01:41:37,800 --> 01:41:40,820
this great worksheet except worksheet

2187
01:41:40,820 --> 01:41:44,580
with all the updates from all the

2188
01:41:44,580 --> 01:41:47,460
projects that are going on

2189
01:41:47,460 --> 01:41:49,739
um I think really the contest to make

2190
01:41:49,739 --> 01:41:51,840
some big decisions on what they're going

2191
01:41:51,840 --> 01:41:54,239
to move forward with there's a lot of

2192
01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:56,580
commitments and contingencies that some

2193
01:41:56,580 --> 01:41:59,340
of these organizations have to come up

2194
01:41:59,340 --> 01:42:00,500
with so

2195
01:42:00,500 --> 01:42:04,500
if there are any questions or that or

2196
01:42:04,500 --> 01:42:06,840
anything that I think maybe reach out to

2197
01:42:06,840 --> 01:42:09,900
an organization to hopefully again if

2198
01:42:09,900 --> 01:42:18,310
you have any questions

2199
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:21,480
she was wondering what uh funding what

2200
01:42:21,480 --> 01:42:23,940
has going on with the funding for the

2201
01:42:23,940 --> 01:42:26,580
project I did reach out to Lauren

2202
01:42:26,580 --> 01:42:28,199
Gardner to see if we need updates on

2203
01:42:28,199 --> 01:42:31,560
that since those two are linked uh begin

2204
01:42:31,560 --> 01:42:43,209
to respond so

2205
01:42:43,219 --> 01:42:45,480
no there's a couple things I want to be

2206
01:42:45,480 --> 01:42:47,820
very specific about there were a couple

2207
01:42:47,820 --> 01:42:49,619
of things that I think we really need to

2208
01:42:49,619 --> 01:42:52,679
take a look at there were requests for a

2209
01:42:52,679 --> 01:42:54,719
change of use of funds there were

2210
01:42:54,719 --> 01:42:56,699
requests for extensions of time we just

2211
01:42:56,699 --> 01:42:58,800
heard one and there's also requests for

2212
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:01,440
additional funds so

2213
01:43:01,440 --> 01:43:04,820
um I can start with the YWCA if you um

2214
01:43:04,820 --> 01:43:09,179
all right so the YW yeah the YWCA I

2215
01:43:09,179 --> 01:43:10,679
think let me just be clear that Mr

2216
01:43:10,679 --> 01:43:12,960
Ferrari sent us all the emails as he got

2217
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:15,300
them and then last Thursday in

2218
01:43:15,300 --> 01:43:16,920
preparation for this meeting he sent it

2219
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,500
all as one packet so and then it's also

2220
01:43:19,500 --> 01:43:21,719
printed out for you in front of you

2221
01:43:21,719 --> 01:43:26,100
um so the YWCA is asking for a six-month

2222
01:43:26,100 --> 01:43:28,800
extension and they're also asking for an

2223
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:32,760
additional 750 000 dollars

2224
01:43:32,760 --> 01:43:34,560
the original request was to build

2225
01:43:34,560 --> 01:43:36,420
something called the Harbor House which

2226
01:43:36,420 --> 01:43:37,260
is

2227
01:43:37,260 --> 01:43:41,100
a building that's behind the current why

2228
01:43:41,100 --> 01:43:43,260
and and now they're asking for the

2229
01:43:43,260 --> 01:43:47,040
additional 750 to do some Renovations of

2230
01:43:47,040 --> 01:43:50,460
42 units within their existing property

2231
01:43:50,460 --> 01:43:53,100
but we haven't um I have not gotten I've

2232
01:43:53,100 --> 01:43:55,320
asked for but I have not gotten kind of

2233
01:43:55,320 --> 01:43:57,659
some detail on what that really would be

2234
01:43:57,659 --> 01:43:59,520
and where women would be housed while

2235
01:43:59,520 --> 01:44:01,440
they're renovating and all that stuff

2236
01:44:01,440 --> 01:44:04,679
um they did uh the mayor hosted the

2237
01:44:04,679 --> 01:44:08,040
meeting here a couple weeks ago and so

2238
01:44:08,040 --> 01:44:09,840
they came and asked that so one of the

2239
01:44:09,840 --> 01:44:12,179
follow-ups was to say you wanted the

2240
01:44:12,179 --> 01:44:14,460
addition 150 extension they'd already

2241
01:44:14,460 --> 01:44:18,780
asked for excuse me at 150 7.50 but how

2242
01:44:18,780 --> 01:44:20,580
was the exact Amusement so we hadn't

2243
01:44:20,580 --> 01:44:22,500
gotten that yet

2244
01:44:22,500 --> 01:44:25,260
so I open that Alexa discussion

2245
01:44:25,260 --> 01:44:28,440
Mr Farm yeah so so there

2246
01:44:28,440 --> 01:44:31,739
are not changing their what they wanted

2247
01:44:31,739 --> 01:44:33,659
to do with their initial the funds that

2248
01:44:33,659 --> 01:44:34,860
were granted they're saying that they

2249
01:44:34,860 --> 01:44:36,119
want to do what they're not to do with

2250
01:44:36,119 --> 01:44:37,560
the initial funds

2251
01:44:37,560 --> 01:44:40,320
um for a harbor house and then the

2252
01:44:40,320 --> 01:44:41,880
additional funds that they're requesting

2253
01:44:41,880 --> 01:44:44,000
would be for a separate project correct

2254
01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,260
separate Gifts of their existing

2255
01:44:46,260 --> 01:44:48,540
building at um whatever number

2256
01:44:48,540 --> 01:44:52,920
Washington Avenue yes so their existing

2257
01:44:52,920 --> 01:44:54,119
building that they have and it's been

2258
01:44:54,119 --> 01:44:56,940
there for 135 years they want to do some

2259
01:44:56,940 --> 01:44:58,560
renovation in that building as well and

2260
01:44:58,560 --> 01:45:00,060
that's what they're asking for the

2261
01:45:00,060 --> 01:45:03,179
additional 754 and we don't have all the

2262
01:45:03,179 --> 01:45:05,520
details of that correct okay but the

2263
01:45:05,520 --> 01:45:09,239
initial Harbor House project could

2264
01:45:09,239 --> 01:45:12,060
stand alone from this project

2265
01:45:12,060 --> 01:45:13,619
do you understand what you're saying

2266
01:45:13,619 --> 01:45:17,149
yeah

2267
01:45:17,159 --> 01:45:21,360
so I see this then

2268
01:45:21,360 --> 01:45:23,820
piggybacking what Mr Crowley says as two

2269
01:45:23,820 --> 01:45:25,679
separate requests the request that we

2270
01:45:25,679 --> 01:45:27,480
have already approved which was Grant

2271
01:45:27,480 --> 01:45:31,920
they applied WE Post we agreed to it

2272
01:45:31,920 --> 01:45:34,860
this is almost like asking for another

2273
01:45:34,860 --> 01:45:36,540
Grant without going through a Grant

2274
01:45:36,540 --> 01:45:38,699
application process right somebody oh my

2275
01:45:38,699 --> 01:45:41,340
misunderstanding well I wouldn't call it

2276
01:45:41,340 --> 01:45:43,020
I guess you people get it like that but

2277
01:45:43,020 --> 01:45:45,239
I see it as a requesting additional

2278
01:45:45,239 --> 01:45:47,699
funds to make sure that their facilities

2279
01:45:47,699 --> 01:45:50,159
what's needed to cancel William the

2280
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:51,900
women and

2281
01:45:51,900 --> 01:45:53,820
um as we've said costs have gone up and

2282
01:45:53,820 --> 01:45:56,340
so there's the Harbor House and then

2283
01:45:56,340 --> 01:45:57,659
they wanted they wanted to make sure

2284
01:45:57,659 --> 01:46:00,060
since they're creating this new facility

2285
01:46:00,060 --> 01:46:02,639
that they upgrade where people women

2286
01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:05,040
currently live as well so I don't know

2287
01:46:05,040 --> 01:46:06,420
if it's necessarily a new Grant request

2288
01:46:06,420 --> 01:46:07,920
but I understand how you can see it like

2289
01:46:07,920 --> 01:46:12,430
that

2290
01:46:12,440 --> 01:46:16,500
to do some do something yeah

2291
01:46:16,500 --> 01:46:19,980
if they had done two applications for

2292
01:46:19,980 --> 01:46:23,540
the classified as a nine percent

2293
01:46:23,540 --> 01:46:26,880
financing package

2294
01:46:26,880 --> 01:46:30,239
competitive process

2295
01:46:30,239 --> 01:46:33,659
Ary bhcr in the state they did not think

2296
01:46:33,659 --> 01:46:36,480
the cut set up so

2297
01:46:36,480 --> 01:46:40,320
what looking at now is a four percent in

2298
01:46:40,320 --> 01:46:41,880
the nine percent is a competitive

2299
01:46:41,880 --> 01:46:44,159
package you have to go out and compete

2300
01:46:44,159 --> 01:46:45,600
against projects within the community

2301
01:46:45,600 --> 01:46:48,179
within the region within the state

2302
01:46:48,179 --> 01:46:51,179
the four percent is more of a negotiated

2303
01:46:51,179 --> 01:46:54,780
process it's not as lucrative for the

2304
01:46:54,780 --> 01:46:57,179
developer but the Senators there that

2305
01:46:57,179 --> 01:46:58,440
make it work

2306
01:46:58,440 --> 01:47:00,239
and so they're approaching an ounce of

2307
01:47:00,239 --> 01:47:04,320
four percent and it will be again dhcr

2308
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:06,540
which stole me the lead in terms of

2309
01:47:06,540 --> 01:47:09,780
reviewing it make sure it makes sense to

2310
01:47:09,780 --> 01:47:11,880
them that they would Grant those tax

2311
01:47:11,880 --> 01:47:14,940
credits to allow it to go forward and

2312
01:47:14,940 --> 01:47:17,420
then the city's money would be

2313
01:47:17,420 --> 01:47:22,080
uh to close the deal to do uh council

2314
01:47:22,080 --> 01:47:23,580
president pointed out some of the

2315
01:47:23,580 --> 01:47:27,179
original proposals and then some

2316
01:47:27,179 --> 01:47:31,320
necessary work in the building proper

2317
01:47:31,320 --> 01:47:35,540
that has been there

2318
01:47:35,540 --> 01:47:38,699
probably 60 years without major

2319
01:47:38,699 --> 01:47:42,179
Renovations maybe longer

2320
01:47:42,179 --> 01:47:44,340
so that they would have a new building

2321
01:47:44,340 --> 01:47:47,219
and then have the upgrades to the

2322
01:47:47,219 --> 01:47:51,290
existing facility it's

2323
01:47:51,300 --> 01:47:53,100
at this point it

2324
01:47:53,100 --> 01:47:54,960
and more optimistic about it than under

2325
01:47:54,960 --> 01:47:56,760
the competitive proposal or the four

2326
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,100
percent again it's negotiated so we're

2327
01:47:59,100 --> 01:48:02,760
working with them working with the state

2328
01:48:02,760 --> 01:48:04,739
they're of course making requests

2329
01:48:04,739 --> 01:48:07,139
because anytime you get money from some

2330
01:48:07,139 --> 01:48:09,900
other source it makes it easier to put

2331
01:48:09,900 --> 01:48:14,460
it together and gives a greater level of

2332
01:48:14,460 --> 01:48:17,280
competitiveness

2333
01:48:17,280 --> 01:48:20,340
having said that it's no different than

2334
01:48:20,340 --> 01:48:22,520
miracle and pregnancy

2335
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:25,980
the Empowerment Center this one until

2336
01:48:25,980 --> 01:48:29,340
you go out and have the final bid and

2337
01:48:29,340 --> 01:48:32,219
you've got a firm price from the

2338
01:48:32,219 --> 01:48:35,420
contractor there's widely varying

2339
01:48:35,420 --> 01:48:38,040
numbers of what the original assumptions

2340
01:48:38,040 --> 01:48:40,679
are and what we could actually do these

2341
01:48:40,679 --> 01:48:41,940
projects we don't want to get into

2342
01:48:41,940 --> 01:48:43,500
something where we don't have enough

2343
01:48:43,500 --> 01:48:45,179
money on the table to be able to finish

2344
01:48:45,179 --> 01:48:48,600
it and so as we're working with these

2345
01:48:48,600 --> 01:48:50,520
groups it's yes we want them to raise

2346
01:48:50,520 --> 01:48:53,400
money I want them to step up but at the

2347
01:48:53,400 --> 01:48:55,139
same time is

2348
01:48:55,139 --> 01:48:57,659
kind of like the city's money to close

2349
01:48:57,659 --> 01:49:00,540
the deal not to put it into your

2350
01:49:00,540 --> 01:49:02,460
starting and then only getting it

2351
01:49:02,460 --> 01:49:04,500
halfway done and you have something that

2352
01:49:04,500 --> 01:49:07,139
really doesn't serve anybody's needs

2353
01:49:07,139 --> 01:49:09,239
down

2354
01:49:09,239 --> 01:49:12,060
and so if you need um do you need are

2355
01:49:12,060 --> 01:49:13,619
you asking for additional information to

2356
01:49:13,619 --> 01:49:17,520
the other new 750 that Edition 715

2357
01:49:17,520 --> 01:49:19,320
do you need more clarity on how they

2358
01:49:19,320 --> 01:49:21,659
wanted to send that are you still at new

2359
01:49:21,659 --> 01:49:24,719
Grant application well I mean so they

2360
01:49:24,719 --> 01:49:27,360
right now

2361
01:49:27,360 --> 01:49:33,169
we've

2362
01:49:33,179 --> 01:49:38,930
700 said 750 000 dollars

2363
01:49:38,940 --> 01:49:43,320
they need an extension the six months

2364
01:49:43,320 --> 01:49:48,800
um so the total cost is 21.5

2365
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:52,500
million 1.5 million oh that's a good

2366
01:49:52,500 --> 01:49:53,719
question

2367
01:49:53,719 --> 01:50:03,790
versus the 750.

2368
01:50:03,800 --> 01:50:19,070
yeah it says yeah 21 points

2369
01:50:19,080 --> 01:50:21,179
I guess I mean can they do the project

2370
01:50:21,179 --> 01:50:23,159
that we initially awarded them in the

2371
01:50:23,159 --> 01:50:27,179
750 000 can they do that project at 750

2372
01:50:27,179 --> 01:50:29,930
000.

2373
01:50:29,940 --> 01:50:32,580
Derek do you know the answer to that

2374
01:50:32,580 --> 01:50:34,810
um

2375
01:50:34,820 --> 01:50:38,100
my understanding is

2376
01:50:38,100 --> 01:50:41,699
that to get the numbers to work for the

2377
01:50:41,699 --> 01:50:45,900
four percent package you have to do

2378
01:50:45,900 --> 01:50:49,199
bigger project within the building the

2379
01:50:49,199 --> 01:50:51,000
four percent it's going to be tougher

2380
01:50:51,000 --> 01:50:53,900
than just the new addition

2381
01:50:53,900 --> 01:50:56,580
even though some of that is still fluid

2382
01:50:56,580 --> 01:50:59,219
and

2383
01:50:59,219 --> 01:51:01,020
they're working with

2384
01:51:01,020 --> 01:51:04,139
dhcr to go through those scenarios and

2385
01:51:04,139 --> 01:51:06,770
options

2386
01:51:06,780 --> 01:51:08,880
I would at this point encourage the

2387
01:51:08,880 --> 01:51:10,440
council to

2388
01:51:10,440 --> 01:51:12,239
approach it is

2389
01:51:12,239 --> 01:51:14,159
you got to do the whole thing you can't

2390
01:51:14,159 --> 01:51:16,679
do the new building and leave the

2391
01:51:16,679 --> 01:51:19,199
existing building

2392
01:51:19,199 --> 01:51:22,679
kind of in a backward state that it's

2393
01:51:22,679 --> 01:51:25,320
not code compliant and it's only going

2394
01:51:25,320 --> 01:51:27,840
to have other issues going forward just

2395
01:51:27,840 --> 01:51:30,420
routine maintenance they've had issues

2396
01:51:30,420 --> 01:51:33,850
where pipes have broken

2397
01:51:33,860 --> 01:51:36,719
home ownership and everything too a

2398
01:51:36,719 --> 01:51:39,480
Basics very easy basis not quite as

2399
01:51:39,480 --> 01:51:40,760
cleanse

2400
01:51:40,760 --> 01:51:44,239
a do you have cancer sir

2401
01:51:44,239 --> 01:51:47,940
yeah so I it sounds to me like

2402
01:51:47,940 --> 01:51:50,760
so yes I would like to give more

2403
01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,500
information on that just because I want

2404
01:51:52,500 --> 01:51:55,679
to to draw just a little more clearly as

2405
01:51:55,679 --> 01:51:59,520
to how connected the projects are and if

2406
01:51:59,520 --> 01:52:01,560
the projects are connected and it's one

2407
01:52:01,560 --> 01:52:03,060
of those things that the mayor's saying

2408
01:52:03,060 --> 01:52:05,219
that we need to do it all or do nothing

2409
01:52:05,219 --> 01:52:07,020
you know I

2410
01:52:07,020 --> 01:52:09,060
you know mine's but my limited

2411
01:52:09,060 --> 01:52:11,520
information that I have I would think

2412
01:52:11,520 --> 01:52:14,820
you'd be better off to fund something in

2413
01:52:14,820 --> 01:52:16,139
a way that it can move forward and

2414
01:52:16,139 --> 01:52:18,480
actually produce their uh service their

2415
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:21,119
Community then under fund it and then

2416
01:52:21,119 --> 01:52:23,340
again let it kind of be a waste of

2417
01:52:23,340 --> 01:52:25,980
resources but I I think that it's fair

2418
01:52:25,980 --> 01:52:27,360
to say like those are some questions

2419
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:29,520
that I think for them to because I

2420
01:52:29,520 --> 01:52:31,380
didn't see that

2421
01:52:31,380 --> 01:52:33,960
so are you asking for them to come like

2422
01:52:33,960 --> 01:52:36,659
here and explain it or do you want it in

2423
01:52:36,659 --> 01:52:38,699
writing it'd be good if they could just

2424
01:52:38,699 --> 01:52:40,139
maybe send something you know just send

2425
01:52:40,139 --> 01:52:41,639
something over and we can reach out you

2426
01:52:41,639 --> 01:52:45,239
know definitely I can reach out

2427
01:52:45,239 --> 01:52:46,500
or are you looking for a funding

2428
01:52:46,500 --> 01:52:48,239
material and see exactly where they are

2429
01:52:48,239 --> 01:52:50,820
and then I'd rather them just give us

2430
01:52:50,820 --> 01:52:52,560
you know more information than needed

2431
01:52:52,560 --> 01:52:53,880
yeah you know they're not less but I

2432
01:52:53,880 --> 01:52:55,679
just kind of really want to see how the

2433
01:52:55,679 --> 01:52:57,480
two projects are connected and are they

2434
01:52:57,480 --> 01:52:58,619
uh

2435
01:52:58,619 --> 01:53:01,100
depending on one another

2436
01:53:01,100 --> 01:53:04,139
important mayor

2437
01:53:04,139 --> 01:53:07,320
my suggestion Council would be issue

2438
01:53:07,320 --> 01:53:10,440
like agree upon an extension and I don't

2439
01:53:10,440 --> 01:53:11,639
know if they could like give me the

2440
01:53:11,639 --> 01:53:13,320
information tomorrow I understand

2441
01:53:13,320 --> 01:53:15,179
they're working through that and it

2442
01:53:15,179 --> 01:53:18,179
might be two weeks it might be six weeks

2443
01:53:18,179 --> 01:53:20,100
before they have the numbers together

2444
01:53:20,100 --> 01:53:22,139
and what the uh

2445
01:53:22,139 --> 01:53:24,659
scope of the work is in what

2446
01:53:24,659 --> 01:53:27,960
would meet the standards for dhcr where

2447
01:53:27,960 --> 01:53:30,239
they would actually be able to assist in

2448
01:53:30,239 --> 01:53:31,739
the finances

2449
01:53:31,739 --> 01:53:34,619
so at this point I'm sorry no I'm saying

2450
01:53:34,619 --> 01:53:36,900
I agree but so are you being with the

2451
01:53:36,900 --> 01:53:38,340
accenting and the additional money

2452
01:53:38,340 --> 01:53:45,669
information um

2453
01:53:45,679 --> 01:53:48,480
I have a problem with this whole thing

2454
01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:51,199
and it's not just one project or another

2455
01:53:51,199 --> 01:53:55,619
the overall scope I mean you created a

2456
01:53:55,619 --> 01:53:59,350
process you created

2457
01:53:59,360 --> 01:54:00,980
contingencies

2458
01:54:00,980 --> 01:54:04,260
and now they're basically meaningless so

2459
01:54:04,260 --> 01:54:06,960
we talk about Equity we have 70 percent

2460
01:54:06,960 --> 01:54:09,960
80 percent of the city that is a Justice

2461
01:54:09,960 --> 01:54:13,460
boarding community and you know it's

2462
01:54:13,460 --> 01:54:17,040
we've created these aspects to be put in

2463
01:54:17,040 --> 01:54:19,320
place and we're disregarded

2464
01:54:19,320 --> 01:54:21,119
so what does that say to the other

2465
01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:23,460
organizations and I think that's

2466
01:54:23,460 --> 01:54:24,600
something that we need to address

2467
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:27,960
because that to me is is very

2468
01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:30,840
problematic because why create the

2469
01:54:30,840 --> 01:54:33,719
contingencies why have those things in

2470
01:54:33,719 --> 01:54:36,000
place as far as a process if we're not

2471
01:54:36,000 --> 01:54:37,860
even going to follow what we've put out

2472
01:54:37,860 --> 01:54:38,880
there

2473
01:54:38,880 --> 01:54:41,460
so my response is that we create the

2474
01:54:41,460 --> 01:54:43,260
process at that time and things ever

2475
01:54:43,260 --> 01:54:45,000
where they as they were things have

2476
01:54:45,000 --> 01:54:47,219
changed since then in terms of cost of

2477
01:54:47,219 --> 01:54:49,380
things all those things and additionally

2478
01:54:49,380 --> 01:54:51,600
the opportunities for every single

2479
01:54:51,600 --> 01:54:53,340
person who was going to funding would

2480
01:54:53,340 --> 01:54:55,500
send a letter saying where are you they

2481
01:54:55,500 --> 01:54:56,880
had an opportunity to come back and say

2482
01:54:56,880 --> 01:54:58,920
this is where we are we need a lot more

2483
01:54:58,920 --> 01:55:00,960
time we need more money we need whatever

2484
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:03,000
so it's not like no one had the

2485
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:05,159
opportunity they had the opportunity so

2486
01:55:05,159 --> 01:55:07,260
it's not like we said to one group you

2487
01:55:07,260 --> 01:55:08,760
can't come and talk to us or send us

2488
01:55:08,760 --> 01:55:10,440
additional information but to this other

2489
01:55:10,440 --> 01:55:12,420
group we can because because that's sort

2490
01:55:12,420 --> 01:55:13,739
of like what I'm hearing you say and

2491
01:55:13,739 --> 01:55:16,860
that's what I'm saying you know is we've

2492
01:55:16,860 --> 01:55:19,320
created these contingencies you guys

2493
01:55:19,320 --> 01:55:21,060
I've already known you put these

2494
01:55:21,060 --> 01:55:22,500
contingencies in place and then you're

2495
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:24,719
saying that doesn't matter here let's

2496
01:55:24,719 --> 01:55:26,880
just do whatever as each one comes up

2497
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,520
we're looking at each one as a one-off

2498
01:55:29,520 --> 01:55:32,699
instead of as a whole and now we don't

2499
01:55:32,699 --> 01:55:34,739
have a good track of where the money

2500
01:55:34,739 --> 01:55:38,880
stands we don't have a very good ex I

2501
01:55:38,880 --> 01:55:42,119
idea of how these costs are going to go

2502
01:55:42,119 --> 01:55:44,400
forward we knew when these projects came

2503
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,280
that much of the costs were quite

2504
01:55:47,280 --> 01:55:49,619
frankly not even close to what they

2505
01:55:49,619 --> 01:55:50,699
would be

2506
01:55:50,699 --> 01:55:52,800
so we knew that going in

2507
01:55:52,800 --> 01:55:56,040
and so we granted the money anyway but

2508
01:55:56,040 --> 01:55:58,679
now we're saying that it doesn't matter

2509
01:55:58,679 --> 01:56:00,960
I think that's a problem for other

2510
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:03,480
organizations and I think just being

2511
01:56:03,480 --> 01:56:07,040
consistent is important

2512
01:56:07,040 --> 01:56:08,880
in terms of

2513
01:56:08,880 --> 01:56:11,460
um go ahead not only the organizations

2514
01:56:11,460 --> 01:56:13,440
that we did Grant Arbor funds to but

2515
01:56:13,440 --> 01:56:15,239
everyone who put in an application as

2516
01:56:15,239 --> 01:56:16,320
well

2517
01:56:16,320 --> 01:56:18,780
um seeing that you didn't follow what we

2518
01:56:18,780 --> 01:56:21,300
some guidelines that we put forward

2519
01:56:21,300 --> 01:56:23,219
but the restrictions and guidelines went

2520
01:56:23,219 --> 01:56:25,159
towards the one that we've done

2521
01:56:25,159 --> 01:56:29,100
absolutely so but they're thinking now

2522
01:56:29,100 --> 01:56:30,860
you know I just don't think it's

2523
01:56:30,860 --> 01:56:34,739
appropriate I I understand the point I I

2524
01:56:34,739 --> 01:56:36,600
have not had any organization come back

2525
01:56:36,600 --> 01:56:39,600
and say why didn't we we get funded but

2526
01:56:39,600 --> 01:56:41,699
I understand your point Thank you so far

2527
01:56:41,699 --> 01:56:44,340
well again I you know I can appreciate

2528
01:56:44,340 --> 01:56:46,760
the concern but I think that you know uh

2529
01:56:46,760 --> 01:56:49,320
especially around the president that it

2530
01:56:49,320 --> 01:56:50,760
says but I think we need to be clear

2531
01:56:50,760 --> 01:56:52,380
that even like whether some of our city

2532
01:56:52,380 --> 01:56:55,320
projects that uh people voted in

2533
01:56:55,320 --> 01:56:57,360
unanimous yes for

2534
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:58,560
um have

2535
01:56:58,560 --> 01:57:02,040
uh budgets have almost doubled

2536
01:57:02,040 --> 01:57:04,440
um and we still owe it yes in

2537
01:57:04,440 --> 01:57:06,000
consideration

2538
01:57:06,000 --> 01:57:07,860
um for because of Ontario costs and

2539
01:57:07,860 --> 01:57:10,020
things of that nature so I think that if

2540
01:57:10,020 --> 01:57:13,619
we're going to give that level of

2541
01:57:13,619 --> 01:57:17,099
um of Grace understanding and responding

2542
01:57:17,099 --> 01:57:18,540
to what's happening with our city

2543
01:57:18,540 --> 01:57:21,360
project City projects I mean surely we

2544
01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:23,400
you know we'd be suited to do the same

2545
01:57:23,400 --> 01:57:25,679
for our organizations and especially the

2546
01:57:25,679 --> 01:57:27,119
smaller organizations in particular

2547
01:57:27,119 --> 01:57:29,400
because again some of our city

2548
01:57:29,400 --> 01:57:30,840
um projects which are great projects

2549
01:57:30,840 --> 01:57:33,179
what we all stood behind um unans people

2550
01:57:33,179 --> 01:57:36,239
yes have a cost to have almost double

2551
01:57:36,239 --> 01:57:39,980
and we still supported them unanimously

2552
01:57:39,980 --> 01:57:41,940
we're always talking about Community

2553
01:57:41,940 --> 01:57:43,980
input we want to talk about the cost of

2554
01:57:43,980 --> 01:57:46,440
going for the pool largely a lot of

2555
01:57:46,440 --> 01:57:48,840
those costs increase because of input

2556
01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:52,320
from the community asking for a splash

2557
01:57:52,320 --> 01:57:54,599
pad asking for all their stuff so that's

2558
01:57:54,599 --> 01:57:56,699
where a lot of the costs increase and

2559
01:57:56,699 --> 01:57:58,380
secondly if you have put contingencies

2560
01:57:58,380 --> 01:58:02,760
on the city projects then okay we're

2561
01:58:02,760 --> 01:58:04,440
comparing apples apples but we're not

2562
01:58:04,440 --> 01:58:07,500
those contingencies weren't put on so

2563
01:58:07,500 --> 01:58:10,260
that's the issue and so when we talk

2564
01:58:10,260 --> 01:58:12,000
about these organizations we talked

2565
01:58:12,000 --> 01:58:13,980
about the ones who weren't funded and

2566
01:58:13,980 --> 01:58:15,599
they're looking at well hey you know

2567
01:58:15,599 --> 01:58:18,780
we're granting money to a project that

2568
01:58:18,780 --> 01:58:21,239
wasn't even applied for that's a problem

2569
01:58:21,239 --> 01:58:23,639
when we look at

2570
01:58:23,639 --> 01:58:25,739
getting rid of contingencies which we

2571
01:58:25,739 --> 01:58:28,920
put in place and saying now we'll give

2572
01:58:28,920 --> 01:58:30,719
this one five months we'll give this one

2573
01:58:30,719 --> 01:58:32,820
eight months we brought into a

2574
01:58:32,820 --> 01:58:34,260
credibility problem

2575
01:58:34,260 --> 01:58:36,360
in order to give an extensions prior to

2576
01:58:36,360 --> 01:58:37,320
this

2577
01:58:37,320 --> 01:58:39,480
so this is not the first time which

2578
01:58:39,480 --> 01:58:42,239
projects which what did we would gave an

2579
01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:44,760
extension um where there was a

2580
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,080
particular extension that we gave it's

2581
01:58:46,080 --> 01:58:47,940
like probably almost all the projects of

2582
01:58:47,940 --> 01:58:50,219
like a top almost a year that was from

2583
01:58:50,219 --> 01:58:53,040
last September right to this September

2584
01:58:53,040 --> 01:58:55,040
right so that was the contingency

2585
01:58:55,040 --> 01:58:58,619
emotionally uh contingencies and by 9 23

2586
01:58:58,619 --> 01:59:01,219
right yeah

2587
01:59:01,219 --> 01:59:04,440
so yeah I I understand what you're

2588
01:59:04,440 --> 01:59:05,820
saying but I don't think that you're

2589
01:59:05,820 --> 01:59:07,920
actively represent representing block

2590
01:59:07,920 --> 01:59:09,360
was set so when you say when you say

2591
01:59:09,360 --> 01:59:10,679
like there's a contingency and then

2592
01:59:10,679 --> 01:59:12,780
we're just saying oh that contingency no

2593
01:59:12,780 --> 01:59:14,760
longer doesn't matter that's definitely

2594
01:59:14,760 --> 01:59:16,560
not what I'm saying but what I'm saying

2595
01:59:16,560 --> 01:59:18,179
is that the same way that we made

2596
01:59:18,179 --> 01:59:20,460
reasonable decisions based on new

2597
01:59:20,460 --> 01:59:22,020
information that was presented when we

2598
01:59:22,020 --> 01:59:23,639
looked at some of our city progress even

2599
01:59:23,639 --> 01:59:25,739
if the cost doubled without a

2600
01:59:25,739 --> 01:59:27,179
contingency on it

2601
01:59:27,179 --> 01:59:28,679
um that's still the pretty significant

2602
01:59:28,679 --> 01:59:30,360
thing to double the cost of a project

2603
01:59:30,360 --> 01:59:32,760
but collectively we understood how that

2604
01:59:32,760 --> 01:59:34,380
could happen and when you numerously

2605
01:59:34,380 --> 01:59:35,880
supported that so I just think that we

2606
01:59:35,880 --> 01:59:37,260
need to have the same metric when we're

2607
01:59:37,260 --> 01:59:38,639
looking at some of our community

2608
01:59:38,639 --> 01:59:40,679
organizations if not we do have a

2609
01:59:40,679 --> 01:59:41,820
problem with credibility but it might

2610
01:59:41,820 --> 01:59:44,520
not be the one you jerk on

2611
01:59:44,520 --> 01:59:45,739
so

2612
01:59:45,739 --> 01:59:48,000
at this point in time the question

2613
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:50,040
becomes they want they're asking for a

2614
01:59:50,040 --> 01:59:51,360
six-month extension but they're also

2615
01:59:51,360 --> 01:59:55,860
asking for additional 600 750 000 so

2616
01:59:55,860 --> 01:59:56,580
um

2617
01:59:56,580 --> 01:59:58,260
but what I'm hearing is that you

2618
01:59:58,260 --> 01:59:59,639
consider the extension but want

2619
01:59:59,639 --> 02:00:01,020
additional information about this other

2620
02:00:01,020 --> 02:00:02,900
part of the project is that

2621
02:00:02,900 --> 02:00:04,920
I think so although I think what I'm

2622
02:00:04,920 --> 02:00:07,320
also hearing from the mayor

2623
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:09,599
meeting that you had is that part of the

2624
02:00:09,599 --> 02:00:11,940
issue with this additional 750 is so

2625
02:00:11,940 --> 02:00:14,580
that they can get that better 40 I mean

2626
02:00:14,580 --> 02:00:15,840
it's that my understanding that

2627
02:00:15,840 --> 02:00:18,360
correctly four percent is not a better

2628
02:00:18,360 --> 02:00:21,840
rate you could say yes competitive

2629
02:00:21,840 --> 02:00:24,060
it's an option that's out there

2630
02:00:24,060 --> 02:00:25,679
English but to get the numbers who are

2631
02:00:25,679 --> 02:00:28,020
kept to a larger project and so they're

2632
02:00:28,020 --> 02:00:29,940
still going through some of the cost

2633
02:00:29,940 --> 02:00:33,360
analysis and it has the meat

2634
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:38,520
criteria Within bhcr's review so where

2635
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:41,159
they didn't make the cut and the nine

2636
02:00:41,159 --> 02:00:44,340
percent they're now oh I see okay reach

2637
02:00:44,340 --> 02:00:46,440
out to DHA arts and was can't we do this

2638
02:00:46,440 --> 02:00:47,940
on a

2639
02:00:47,940 --> 02:00:49,679
four percent

2640
02:00:49,679 --> 02:00:53,580
again where the nine percent is you put

2641
02:00:53,580 --> 02:00:56,159
it in it's yes you get it no you don't

2642
02:00:56,159 --> 02:00:58,560
the four percent is more of a negotiated

2643
02:00:58,560 --> 02:01:00,420
process so we go in and say well you

2644
02:01:00,420 --> 02:01:01,679
know if you had

2645
02:01:01,679 --> 02:01:03,659
extra assistance from the city council

2646
02:01:03,659 --> 02:01:06,960
you could do part of this or do we have

2647
02:01:06,960 --> 02:01:09,179
to finance the whole amount through a

2648
02:01:09,179 --> 02:01:11,400
developer

2649
02:01:11,400 --> 02:01:14,340
and it's uh

2650
02:01:14,340 --> 02:01:16,560
it's not as lucrative for the developer

2651
02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:19,020
but it's a process that I believe will

2652
02:01:19,020 --> 02:01:21,840
allow that project to go forward but I

2653
02:01:21,840 --> 02:01:24,119
can't sit here and tell you to say give

2654
02:01:24,119 --> 02:01:26,159
them an extra dollar give them an extra

2655
02:01:26,159 --> 02:01:29,540
million dollars and they don't need

2656
02:01:29,540 --> 02:01:32,760
all these the costs are going up

2657
02:01:32,760 --> 02:01:35,179
Fair

2658
02:01:35,179 --> 02:01:37,080
you know

2659
02:01:37,080 --> 02:01:40,560
tight budgets we want to try and work

2660
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:44,639
with them to make it happen so if this

2661
02:01:44,639 --> 02:01:47,219
point that my recommendation will be if

2662
02:01:47,219 --> 02:01:49,139
the council agreed on

2663
02:01:49,139 --> 02:01:52,370
an extension

2664
02:01:52,380 --> 02:01:54,659
it's like miracle and Craig one and they

2665
02:01:54,659 --> 02:01:55,980
really wanted six months you gave them

2666
02:01:55,980 --> 02:01:58,619
four months maybe let's be clear they

2667
02:01:58,619 --> 02:02:00,920
ask for four months

2668
02:02:00,920 --> 02:02:04,020
and so you know it's how do you workers

2669
02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:05,400
build at the same time keep a little bit

2670
02:02:05,400 --> 02:02:09,300
of pressure on them to move the project

2671
02:02:09,300 --> 02:02:12,119
forward get things lined up to be able

2672
02:02:12,119 --> 02:02:17,629
to again move forward a successful yeah

2673
02:02:17,639 --> 02:02:20,340
Mr Williams I can only speak for myself

2674
02:02:20,340 --> 02:02:22,380
I think looking at all these projects

2675
02:02:22,380 --> 02:02:24,719
when we receive them in whole I may

2676
02:02:24,719 --> 02:02:28,139
certain determinants based on criteria I

2677
02:02:28,139 --> 02:02:30,599
selected various projects based on the

2678
02:02:30,599 --> 02:02:31,920
benefits that they have to the community

2679
02:02:31,920 --> 02:02:33,480
which are still

2680
02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:34,380
um

2681
02:02:34,380 --> 02:02:38,040
true to today so as we Now function and

2682
02:02:38,040 --> 02:02:41,099
a new reality where covet is still very

2683
02:02:41,099 --> 02:02:43,440
much affecting a lot of qualities of

2684
02:02:43,440 --> 02:02:45,060
life it's understanding how do we

2685
02:02:45,060 --> 02:02:46,679
salvage some of these projects which

2686
02:02:46,679 --> 02:02:49,080
that truth still holds true that their

2687
02:02:49,080 --> 02:02:51,480
impact on the community is such

2688
02:02:51,480 --> 02:02:53,400
so getting to this point I agree with

2689
02:02:53,400 --> 02:02:55,739
the mayor of how do we hold these types

2690
02:02:55,739 --> 02:02:58,619
of additional requests accountable and I

2691
02:02:58,619 --> 02:03:00,000
think it's the manner in which we do it

2692
02:03:00,000 --> 02:03:02,580
I have no issues with this extension and

2693
02:03:02,580 --> 02:03:03,900
hearing this information although I'd

2694
02:03:03,900 --> 02:03:07,199
like to hear from the YW YWCA

2695
02:03:07,199 --> 02:03:09,480
spokesperson I would feel more

2696
02:03:09,480 --> 02:03:11,040
comfortable going through the remainder

2697
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:13,320
of these projects and then understanding

2698
02:03:13,320 --> 02:03:15,179
what other additional requests that we

2699
02:03:15,179 --> 02:03:17,570
are making

2700
02:03:17,580 --> 02:03:20,460
uh before allocating this additional

2701
02:03:20,460 --> 02:03:22,139
money so I'm not opposed to giving them

2702
02:03:22,139 --> 02:03:23,460
this increase however I want to make

2703
02:03:23,460 --> 02:03:25,139
sure if we're doing that what are we

2704
02:03:25,139 --> 02:03:27,000
doing at the expense of

2705
02:03:27,000 --> 02:03:28,679
thank you

2706
02:03:28,679 --> 02:03:30,780
so actually right before it's now before

2707
02:03:30,780 --> 02:03:33,420
we really discuss um

2708
02:03:33,420 --> 02:03:35,280
additional fund we want to know talk

2709
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:36,840
about whether there'll be an extension

2710
02:03:36,840 --> 02:03:39,060
or not did you yes just an additional

2711
02:03:39,060 --> 02:03:42,060
question so at the end of December for

2712
02:03:42,060 --> 02:03:43,619
Miracle on Craig and now the end of

2713
02:03:43,619 --> 02:03:45,960
February for them yeah if they're asking

2714
02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:47,580
for another extension where do we stand

2715
02:03:47,580 --> 02:03:50,699
on that well I can't answer for everyone

2716
02:03:50,699 --> 02:03:52,739
but I'm just saying things that well

2717
02:03:52,739 --> 02:03:54,540
something we need to consider and we

2718
02:03:54,540 --> 02:03:56,340
will consider and there's already as

2719
02:03:56,340 --> 02:03:58,139
I've said a number of times as I start

2720
02:03:58,139 --> 02:04:00,060
this conversation we're looking at the

2721
02:04:00,060 --> 02:04:01,380
federal

2722
02:04:01,380 --> 02:04:02,880
um the Federal

2723
02:04:02,880 --> 02:04:05,219
guidelines in the federal timelines so

2724
02:04:05,219 --> 02:04:08,460
we will keep that in mind if it's not reasonable that they can do it

2725
02:04:08,460 --> 02:04:13,070
then of course we will consider that

2726
02:04:13,080 --> 02:04:16,260
so um again are we we're talking about

2727
02:04:16,260 --> 02:04:17,699
the six month extension but not

2728
02:04:17,699 --> 02:04:19,139
additional money at this point in time

2729
02:04:19,139 --> 02:04:21,119
without the additional information I'm

2730
02:04:21,119 --> 02:04:22,260
more comfortable

2731
02:04:22,260 --> 02:04:24,420
so are you going to be getting each of

2732
02:04:24,420 --> 02:04:26,280
these organizations that are requiring

2733
02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:29,760
extensions the same amount of time

2734
02:04:29,760 --> 02:04:33,850
um

2735
02:04:33,860 --> 02:04:36,840
except except well we'll wait till we

2736
02:04:36,840 --> 02:04:41,340
get there I mean I don't

2737
02:04:41,340 --> 02:04:42,900
think we should we should make decisions

2738
02:04:42,900 --> 02:04:44,400
for them they they made that decision

2739
02:04:44,400 --> 02:04:45,440
yeah

2740
02:04:45,440 --> 02:04:47,940
for all these organizations to have

2741
02:04:47,940 --> 02:04:49,739
their contingencies and funding

2742
02:04:49,739 --> 02:04:51,000
employees

2743
02:04:51,000 --> 02:04:52,080
please speak out the should make the

2744
02:04:52,080 --> 02:04:54,360
decision whether to be allocate that to

2745
02:04:54,360 --> 02:04:56,580
whether a city project or Consolidated

2746
02:04:56,580 --> 02:04:59,940
project so yeah I think that's a good

2747
02:04:59,940 --> 02:05:03,360
idea so timeline that we we decide all

2748
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:04,980
of the projects that we have to make I

2749
02:05:04,980 --> 02:05:07,020
think that's an excellent idea so at

2750
02:05:07,020 --> 02:05:08,099
this point in time if we're talking

2751
02:05:08,099 --> 02:05:09,719
about six months we're saying nobody

2752
02:05:09,719 --> 02:05:23,649
goes beyond six months

2753
02:05:23,659 --> 02:05:28,380
our timetable and you inhibited if not

2754
02:05:28,380 --> 02:05:30,119
then you know that's what I'm saying so

2755
02:05:30,119 --> 02:05:33,000
right now so before we get into looking

2756
02:05:33,000 --> 02:05:34,440
at everything as a whole because I don't

2757
02:05:34,440 --> 02:05:35,580
want to have like two different

2758
02:05:35,580 --> 02:05:37,260
conversations if we're talking about the

2759
02:05:37,260 --> 02:05:39,360
YWCA right now which is what I'm talking

2760
02:05:39,360 --> 02:05:41,219
about I'm comfortable

2761
02:05:41,219 --> 02:05:43,679
um with the mayor's recommendation to

2762
02:05:43,679 --> 02:05:45,300
offer the extension

2763
02:05:45,300 --> 02:05:48,540
um allowing them some time to give us

2764
02:05:48,540 --> 02:05:52,560
you know a more full view of what is

2765
02:05:52,560 --> 02:05:54,380
happening

2766
02:05:54,380 --> 02:05:56,699
so it's two different things they would

2767
02:05:56,699 --> 02:05:58,080
get the six month extension but they

2768
02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:00,420
would have to come to talk to us or send

2769
02:06:00,420 --> 02:06:04,040
this information about the 750 rules

2770
02:06:04,040 --> 02:06:06,900
we don't need a we don't need to vote on

2771
02:06:06,900 --> 02:06:08,699
something then we are

2772
02:06:08,699 --> 02:06:12,000
the six month extension yes then I'll

2773
02:06:12,000 --> 02:06:14,639
make a motion to give the YWCA a

2774
02:06:14,639 --> 02:06:17,159
six-time extension I'll second always in

2775
02:06:17,159 --> 02:06:18,840
favor

2776
02:06:18,840 --> 02:06:20,760
all right

2777
02:06:20,760 --> 02:06:25,199
um can we uh so the next one is cats

2778
02:06:25,199 --> 02:06:27,360
scat has not asked for additional money

2779
02:06:27,360 --> 02:06:32,229
or a Time

2780
02:06:32,239 --> 02:06:35,639
they are asking for an amendment of use

2781
02:06:35,639 --> 02:06:37,800
of their funds do you want to you want

2782
02:06:37,800 --> 02:06:40,380
to talk about that here it is

2783
02:06:40,380 --> 02:06:52,189
oh

2784
02:06:52,199 --> 02:06:55,189
yes

2785
02:06:55,199 --> 02:06:58,139
the agencies that requested me give them

2786
02:06:58,139 --> 02:07:01,270
the opportunity to come before

2787
02:07:01,280 --> 02:07:04,260
I'm not sure how that would take that

2788
02:07:04,260 --> 02:07:07,020
here to to come um because it was we

2789
02:07:07,020 --> 02:07:09,000
this was just a discussion for the

2790
02:07:09,000 --> 02:07:11,760
council but um they were there so I gave

2791
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:13,679
them the opportunity to say a couple of

2792
02:07:13,679 --> 02:07:16,490
words

2793
02:07:16,500 --> 02:07:18,420
um it would be a much longer meeting and

2794
02:07:18,420 --> 02:07:19,500
I don't think you could fight for

2795
02:07:19,500 --> 02:07:20,540
everybody

2796
02:07:20,540 --> 02:07:22,699
yeah

2797
02:07:22,699 --> 02:07:32,410
make those decisions

2798
02:07:32,420 --> 02:07:34,560
right here

2799
02:07:34,560 --> 02:07:40,430
can you see it bigger here

2800
02:07:40,440 --> 02:07:42,840
all right so what I have up to date

2801
02:07:42,840 --> 02:07:45,360
which accounts already seen on their

2802
02:07:45,360 --> 02:07:48,250
documents

2803
02:07:48,260 --> 02:07:51,900
they want to change their work detail on

2804
02:07:51,900 --> 02:07:53,280
that

2805
02:07:53,280 --> 02:07:55,739
um they originally were appropriated a

2806
02:07:55,739 --> 02:07:59,750
hundred thousand dollars

2807
02:07:59,760 --> 02:08:02,360
let's go pick

2808
02:08:02,360 --> 02:08:04,980
supports including testing vaccination

2809
02:08:04,980 --> 02:08:06,960
education and safety services for

2810
02:08:06,960 --> 02:08:08,760
homeless individuals and that's hard to

2811
02:08:08,760 --> 02:08:11,280
read there so at this point in time we

2812
02:08:11,280 --> 02:08:13,380
all have the letter from them yep and

2813
02:08:13,380 --> 02:08:15,420
they are asking to change all of that

2814
02:08:15,420 --> 02:08:18,360
funding to go towards rent

2815
02:08:18,360 --> 02:08:20,580
um for to keep prevent homelessness

2816
02:08:20,580 --> 02:08:22,739
which is what we've just given them I

2817
02:08:22,739 --> 02:08:31,609
think the cbdg yes

2818
02:08:31,619 --> 02:08:34,080
I mean especially regarding that changes

2819
02:08:34,080 --> 02:08:36,119
use so your point

2820
02:08:36,119 --> 02:08:38,460
they're a community blocking we just

2821
02:08:38,460 --> 02:08:40,980
paid them for that correct yes so it's

2822
02:08:40,980 --> 02:08:51,550
such a nice problems

2823
02:08:51,560 --> 02:08:55,850
but I can find that information now

2824
02:08:55,860 --> 02:08:58,699
um and this is

2825
02:08:58,699 --> 02:09:01,500
last year rental subsidy subsidies what

2826
02:09:01,500 --> 02:09:03,480
we just also have given money producing

2827
02:09:03,480 --> 02:09:04,860
thank you

2828
02:09:04,860 --> 02:09:06,300
two weeks ago

2829
02:09:06,300 --> 02:09:08,400
I can't remember when it was okay this

2830
02:09:08,400 --> 02:09:12,000
was a few weeks ago and um addition let

2831
02:09:12,000 --> 02:09:14,940
me just everyone needed her

2832
02:09:14,940 --> 02:09:17,280
that housing that rental assistance as

2833
02:09:17,280 --> 02:09:20,099
we know is a critical need right and uh

2834
02:09:20,099 --> 02:09:22,920
Miss Dia did uh send this back on August

2835
02:09:22,920 --> 02:09:25,500
17th but it was to change the Arca but I

2836
02:09:25,500 --> 02:09:26,820
wanted to include it and make a

2837
02:09:26,820 --> 02:09:28,679
discussion with all of them as opposed

2838
02:09:28,679 --> 02:09:33,410
to just bringing that one forward

2839
02:09:33,420 --> 02:09:35,580
I guess I would just note that this is

2840
02:09:35,580 --> 02:09:38,940
you know you know they're changing the

2841
02:09:38,940 --> 02:09:43,199
scope of services somewhat it's still um

2842
02:09:43,199 --> 02:09:45,540
directive impact in the same uh

2843
02:09:45,540 --> 02:09:48,960
population which is um population that's

2844
02:09:48,960 --> 02:09:51,000
a Diaries

2845
02:09:51,000 --> 02:09:54,000
I trust their

2846
02:09:54,000 --> 02:09:56,460
approximation to where how those funds

2847
02:09:56,460 --> 02:09:58,800
can be allocated

2848
02:09:58,800 --> 02:10:00,659
I think it's a different plan of attack

2849
02:10:00,659 --> 02:10:02,520
for the same problems how kind of how

2850
02:10:02,520 --> 02:10:07,750
I'm saying it I don't know

2851
02:10:07,760 --> 02:10:09,780
anyone else

2852
02:10:09,780 --> 02:10:12,119
yes Mr Williams I think regardless of

2853
02:10:12,119 --> 02:10:13,440
whether it's different or not or how

2854
02:10:13,440 --> 02:10:15,480
different I think we've all recognized

2855
02:10:15,480 --> 02:10:18,540
the systemic impacts of covid and how

2856
02:10:18,540 --> 02:10:20,280
it's affected only our renters but also

2857
02:10:20,280 --> 02:10:22,619
our landlord Community I think

2858
02:10:22,619 --> 02:10:24,119
previously when we had this presentation

2859
02:10:24,119 --> 02:10:26,699
they highlighted I believe was 250 000

2860
02:10:26,699 --> 02:10:28,560
or something how that was a drop in the

2861
02:10:28,560 --> 02:10:30,360
bucket that's what this issue truly is

2862
02:10:30,360 --> 02:10:32,880
for not our city Charlotte County and I

2863
02:10:32,880 --> 02:10:35,340
was hopeful and wanting to designate for

2864
02:10:35,340 --> 02:10:36,719
that so seeing that there's an

2865
02:10:36,719 --> 02:10:38,219
opportunity for them to leverage their

2866
02:10:38,219 --> 02:10:39,320
current project

2867
02:10:39,320 --> 02:10:42,360
it is not a black and white scenario Mr

2868
02:10:42,360 --> 02:10:44,159
promeny but I think this honestly is

2869
02:10:44,159 --> 02:10:46,860
very much how do we provide more

2870
02:10:46,860 --> 02:10:48,540
resources to a community and so much

2871
02:10:48,540 --> 02:10:50,219
need and I think that this is an

2872
02:10:50,219 --> 02:10:53,570
absolute yes

2873
02:10:53,580 --> 02:10:56,280
so Mr Golden so do we if we're talking

2874
02:10:56,280 --> 02:10:59,099
about a change in U2 we have to

2875
02:10:59,099 --> 02:11:01,020
do we have to roll them into that or is

2876
02:11:01,020 --> 02:11:02,639
it that just a special we just made that

2877
02:11:02,639 --> 02:11:03,719
decision

2878
02:11:03,719 --> 02:11:04,739
you're going to have to change the

2879
02:11:04,739 --> 02:11:05,940
resolution

2880
02:11:05,940 --> 02:11:07,679
um you know so you'll have to amend just

2881
02:11:07,679 --> 02:11:09,659
like you did with the timeline

2882
02:11:09,659 --> 02:11:11,699
um the resolutions that were previously

2883
02:11:11,699 --> 02:11:13,320
passed with the allocations were

2884
02:11:13,320 --> 02:11:15,560
specific to a project

2885
02:11:15,560 --> 02:11:18,119
without looking at their resolution I

2886
02:11:18,119 --> 02:11:20,280
don't think could Encompass this

2887
02:11:20,280 --> 02:11:21,719
particular type of change so I think you

2888
02:11:21,719 --> 02:11:22,980
would have to actually have a resolution

2889
02:11:22,980 --> 02:11:25,020
to do it because we haven't ever done to

2890
02:11:25,020 --> 02:11:27,719
a contract well we have nots right okay

2891
02:11:27,719 --> 02:11:36,609
yeah

2892
02:11:36,619 --> 02:11:39,719
this is a complete different use I

2893
02:11:39,719 --> 02:11:42,780
understand this has applications it's a

2894
02:11:42,780 --> 02:11:45,840
need but how does that look in terms of

2895
02:11:45,840 --> 02:11:48,239
all the projects that we looked at it's

2896
02:11:48,239 --> 02:11:50,820
a completely different project and yes

2897
02:11:50,820 --> 02:11:53,099
it might have gotten funded anyway

2898
02:11:53,099 --> 02:11:55,800
but we don't know that because we're not

2899
02:11:55,800 --> 02:11:59,219
looking at that scope we're just well oh

2900
02:11:59,219 --> 02:12:01,080
they asked for something else so let's

2901
02:12:01,080 --> 02:12:02,280
give it to them

2902
02:12:02,280 --> 02:12:09,000
it's a little facetious but the reality is it's a different

2903
02:12:09,000 --> 02:12:11,400
project and we're not considering it

2904
02:12:11,400 --> 02:12:13,679
into the scope of all the projects that

2905
02:12:13,679 --> 02:12:16,020
we received and that's the problem by

2906
02:12:16,020 --> 02:12:18,179
going one by one instead of looking at

2907
02:12:18,179 --> 02:12:20,880
everything a whole and saying well we

2908
02:12:20,880 --> 02:12:24,480
like this 510 these ones probably don't

2909
02:12:24,480 --> 02:12:26,580
fit that's the problem we're running

2910
02:12:26,580 --> 02:12:33,169
into and that's the lack of consistency

2911
02:12:33,179 --> 02:12:35,099
Miss Williams well I have to push back

2912
02:12:35,099 --> 02:12:37,560
that is why we prepared to have that

2913
02:12:37,560 --> 02:12:39,900
type of discussion I took detailed notes

2914
02:12:39,900 --> 02:12:42,719
sir and I have in my mind a template of

2915
02:12:42,719 --> 02:12:44,639
what I'm willing to adjust to with my

2916
02:12:44,639 --> 02:12:46,320
single vote and I'm taking that into

2917
02:12:46,320 --> 02:12:47,880
consideration with hearing from the rest

2918
02:12:47,880 --> 02:12:49,380
of my council members

2919
02:12:49,380 --> 02:12:52,500
from my standpoint the amount of details

2920
02:12:52,500 --> 02:12:54,000
that I've looked at I feel comfortable

2921
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:55,800
with that decision and as you do like so

2922
02:12:55,800 --> 02:12:58,219
I think as this can as this conversation

2923
02:12:58,219 --> 02:13:00,599
develops I think that is where we're

2924
02:13:00,599 --> 02:13:03,179
currently at right now

2925
02:13:03,179 --> 02:13:06,179
so in in their letter they say the

2926
02:13:06,179 --> 02:13:07,320
reason they're asking for the change

2927
02:13:07,320 --> 02:13:09,719
what they originally asked for they were

2928
02:13:09,719 --> 02:13:11,699
able to get funding from a different

2929
02:13:11,699 --> 02:13:14,460
source so

2930
02:13:14,460 --> 02:13:16,079
um they said they still need the funding

2931
02:13:16,079 --> 02:13:17,460
however they'd like to use it for

2932
02:13:17,460 --> 02:13:19,020
another need that that's already there

2933
02:13:19,020 --> 02:13:19,860
so

2934
02:13:19,860 --> 02:13:21,480
um we certainly couldn't let them give

2935
02:13:21,480 --> 02:13:24,300
them the funding and then use

2936
02:13:24,300 --> 02:13:25,920
um and then pay for something that they

2937
02:13:25,920 --> 02:13:28,199
already had another grant for that we

2938
02:13:28,199 --> 02:13:32,040
could not do so they simply said well no I mean at some point in your

2939
02:13:32,040 --> 02:13:34,139
mind but they've said you still need the

2940
02:13:34,139 --> 02:13:36,179
funding but we'd like to allocate it to

2941
02:13:36,179 --> 02:13:40,689
a different use

2942
02:13:40,699 --> 02:13:42,900
okay actually I think you've said this

2943
02:13:42,900 --> 02:13:44,520
in the past I think that these things

2944
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:47,040
are existing both are existing at the

2945
02:13:47,040 --> 02:13:50,219
same time both of you are saying can

2946
02:13:50,219 --> 02:13:52,139
exist and be true at the same time

2947
02:13:52,139 --> 02:13:55,500
because I get both of your points it is

2948
02:13:55,500 --> 02:13:58,970
that we are actually

2949
02:13:58,980 --> 02:14:00,719
I mean not everyone had the same

2950
02:14:00,719 --> 02:14:02,820
opportunity to come in here and talk to

2951
02:14:02,820 --> 02:14:05,579
us or to give us a new

2952
02:14:05,579 --> 02:14:09,599
scope or a new proposal clearly if they

2953
02:14:09,599 --> 02:14:11,760
got funding for covet testing which they

2954
02:14:11,760 --> 02:14:14,639
probably got in a very timely way which

2955
02:14:14,639 --> 02:14:16,980
we were not necessarily timely in making

2956
02:14:16,980 --> 02:14:18,360
our decisions

2957
02:14:18,360 --> 02:14:20,639
right in terms of How It's not allowed

2958
02:14:20,639 --> 02:14:22,440
out they are performing to begin with so

2959
02:14:22,440 --> 02:14:24,900
they obviously took care of what they

2960
02:14:24,900 --> 02:14:27,599
needed with the you know so so yes we're

2961
02:14:27,599 --> 02:14:29,159
looking at them one at a time instead of

2962
02:14:29,159 --> 02:14:30,840
looking at

2963
02:14:30,840 --> 02:14:33,179
um big picture exists with the same at

2964
02:14:33,179 --> 02:14:35,280
the same time that this is such a

2965
02:14:35,280 --> 02:14:37,020
critical need

2966
02:14:37,020 --> 02:14:38,579
um at least this one is

2967
02:14:38,579 --> 02:14:41,760
um in our community that how do we so I

2968
02:14:41,760 --> 02:14:43,500
guess I'm saying to both of you how do

2969
02:14:43,500 --> 02:14:45,480
we reconcile the fact that we all sit

2970
02:14:45,480 --> 02:14:47,820
here and know because we had this

2971
02:14:47,820 --> 02:14:49,860
discussion already about scap

2972
02:14:49,860 --> 02:14:52,020
previously

2973
02:14:52,020 --> 02:14:54,900
um we know what this this need for for

2974
02:14:54,900 --> 02:14:57,360
rental assistance for people that are

2975
02:14:57,360 --> 02:15:00,060
home you know just about homeless how do

2976
02:15:00,060 --> 02:15:02,280
we reconcile these two things with the

2977
02:15:02,280 --> 02:15:03,420
fact that right now we're making

2978
02:15:03,420 --> 02:15:04,860
judgment calls

2979
02:15:04,860 --> 02:15:06,960
and going outside of a process that we

2980
02:15:06,960 --> 02:15:09,119
already had set up which I think is what

2981
02:15:09,119 --> 02:15:10,320
you're saying

2982
02:15:10,320 --> 02:15:12,360
um because for example let's let's face

2983
02:15:12,360 --> 02:15:13,860
it we're going to get to the other the

2984
02:15:13,860 --> 02:15:17,400
other folks uh in this pile

2985
02:15:17,400 --> 02:15:19,199
um and even miracle and Craig Street I

2986
02:15:19,199 --> 02:15:21,119
mean they totally changed the scope of

2987
02:15:21,119 --> 02:15:23,099
their project from what they asked us

2988
02:15:23,099 --> 02:15:26,159
for originally because

2989
02:15:26,159 --> 02:15:28,560
to fit into the amount of money we gave

2990
02:15:28,560 --> 02:15:30,480
them as opposed to I mean one of the

2991
02:15:30,480 --> 02:15:31,860
contingencies that we had originally

2992
02:15:31,860 --> 02:15:34,260
given them was

2993
02:15:34,260 --> 02:15:35,340
um that they had to come up with the

2994
02:15:35,340 --> 02:15:36,900
rest of the funding I can't remember the

2995
02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:38,880
whole total of their project when in

2996
02:15:38,880 --> 02:15:40,380
that first application but it was like

2997
02:15:40,380 --> 02:15:42,719
double what we gave them instead they

2998
02:15:42,719 --> 02:15:44,760
came back to us and said okay we've

2999
02:15:44,760 --> 02:15:46,139
actually narrowed the scope of the

3000
02:15:46,139 --> 02:15:47,460
project so that we can do the project

3001
02:15:47,460 --> 02:15:49,920
with what you you are giving us so they

3002
02:15:49,920 --> 02:15:51,480
already changed

3003
02:15:51,480 --> 02:15:54,300
what they already did what now for

3004
02:15:54,300 --> 02:15:56,219
example scaff is asking us about and

3005
02:15:56,219 --> 02:15:57,960
pretty soon you're going to see if we

3006
02:15:57,960 --> 02:15:59,579
get to Cocoa house that cocoa house is

3007
02:15:59,579 --> 02:16:02,280
asking us I mean you know

3008
02:16:02,280 --> 02:16:04,020
at the same time I think we have to

3009
02:16:04,020 --> 02:16:05,400
recognize that

3010
02:16:05,400 --> 02:16:09,360
like a year has gone by or more since

3011
02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:11,340
these folks originally gave us their

3012
02:16:11,340 --> 02:16:13,560
application so you know a lot has

3013
02:16:13,560 --> 02:16:16,320
changed uh in the external environment

3014
02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:18,239
in which they are operating

3015
02:16:18,239 --> 02:16:20,099
all of them

3016
02:16:20,099 --> 02:16:22,400
every single one of these you know

3017
02:16:22,400 --> 02:16:24,900
organizations but every the letter was

3018
02:16:24,900 --> 02:16:26,219
sent to everyone everyone had the

3019
02:16:26,219 --> 02:16:27,659
opportunity to come back and ask the

3020
02:16:27,659 --> 02:16:29,340
same questions these are the responses

3021
02:16:29,340 --> 02:16:31,260
that we got just I want you to so it's

3022
02:16:31,260 --> 02:16:32,399
not that everyone didn't have an

3023
02:16:32,399 --> 02:16:34,139
opportunity to speak oh right oh I

3024
02:16:34,139 --> 02:16:35,340
thought just the one yeah just the ones

3025
02:16:35,340 --> 02:16:37,080
that we still didn't have

3026
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:38,700
to have fun everyone got the letter and

3027
02:16:38,700 --> 02:16:41,160
then then that's how let me just also

3028
02:16:41,160 --> 02:16:42,240
say that

3029
02:16:42,240 --> 02:16:44,960
um it when Mr Ferrari took this over

3030
02:16:44,960 --> 02:16:47,880
yeah that's right that's right so he

3031
02:16:47,880 --> 02:16:49,320
asked everyone and then some of the

3032
02:16:49,320 --> 02:16:57,349
contracts got in place

3033
02:16:57,359 --> 02:16:59,460
um so yes and you're right it did take a

3034
02:16:59,460 --> 02:17:01,080
year I don't I don't

3035
02:17:01,080 --> 02:17:03,120
I can't speak to why but until he sent

3036
02:17:03,120 --> 02:17:05,099
out the letters and say you must move or

3037
02:17:05,099 --> 02:17:06,719
we will take our money back that's when

3038
02:17:06,719 --> 02:17:07,859
things started moving forward right

3039
02:17:07,859 --> 02:17:10,620
that's right so

3040
02:17:10,620 --> 02:17:11,580
um

3041
02:17:11,580 --> 02:17:13,679
again the you know the question on the

3042
02:17:13,679 --> 02:17:16,080
table and and in terms of us looking at

3043
02:17:16,080 --> 02:17:17,460
I think that we're looking at each

3044
02:17:17,460 --> 02:17:18,840
project and we have to I mean we're

3045
02:17:18,840 --> 02:17:20,939
looking at he fends out everything on

3046
02:17:20,939 --> 02:17:23,700
every single sponsors right yes yes

3047
02:17:23,700 --> 02:17:27,000
so um so there's to my knowledge there's

3048
02:17:27,000 --> 02:17:29,519
no one that's left out

3049
02:17:29,519 --> 02:17:32,280
no there shouldn't be uh you send emails

3050
02:17:32,280 --> 02:17:33,840
it's down

3051
02:17:33,840 --> 02:17:36,359
these organizations so

3052
02:17:36,359 --> 02:17:37,040
um

3053
02:17:37,040 --> 02:17:40,500
99 of them did respond

3054
02:17:40,500 --> 02:17:43,019
um like I said Anthony was in charge of

3055
02:17:43,019 --> 02:17:46,260
the Soul amongst us so uh if you have

3056
02:17:46,260 --> 02:17:47,880
any questions I could try to reach out

3057
02:17:47,880 --> 02:17:51,780
to them or dig into his files and um

3058
02:17:51,780 --> 02:17:53,519
see if there's any uh questions that

3059
02:17:53,519 --> 02:17:55,139
could be answered

3060
02:17:55,139 --> 02:17:57,660
so the question before is now is is the

3061
02:17:57,660 --> 02:18:04,969
change of use for the 100 000 for um

3062
02:18:04,979 --> 02:18:07,859
yeah I'm just going around isn't

3063
02:18:07,859 --> 02:18:09,899
supposed

3064
02:18:09,899 --> 02:18:12,780
but we can do that we can if no one has

3065
02:18:12,780 --> 02:18:14,939
sloppy treats up forward

3066
02:18:14,939 --> 02:18:19,910
so and just well yeah

3067
02:18:19,920 --> 02:18:21,420
well then I'll make the motion that we

3068
02:18:21,420 --> 02:18:23,880
do a serious opposition is there serious

3069
02:18:23,880 --> 02:18:25,260
opposition it's a serious opposition to

3070
02:18:25,260 --> 02:18:27,469
this guy

3071
02:18:27,479 --> 02:18:30,250
for me

3072
02:18:30,260 --> 02:18:33,000
I'll speak into the sense that I mean

3073
02:18:33,000 --> 02:18:35,939
yes homelessness is a crisis so is

3074
02:18:35,939 --> 02:18:39,420
domestic violence and we just asked for

3075
02:18:39,420 --> 02:18:42,359
six months extension for that they would

3076
02:18:42,359 --> 02:18:44,160
want to know why we're changing the

3077
02:18:44,160 --> 02:18:47,760
scope of asking for an extra 750 by then

3078
02:18:47,760 --> 02:18:52,500
so I and again to stay consistent I use

3079
02:18:52,500 --> 02:18:54,420
almost everybody wants to change their

3080
02:18:54,420 --> 02:18:56,160
application now and what they need it

3081
02:18:56,160 --> 02:18:58,200
for I think we need to stay consistent

3082
02:18:58,200 --> 02:19:01,080
and I'm sorry that's just my feeling you

3083
02:19:01,080 --> 02:19:02,460
never have to be sorry for your opinion

3084
02:19:02,460 --> 02:19:06,770
thank you

3085
02:19:06,780 --> 02:19:11,049
Mr pulmonary settings

3086
02:19:11,059 --> 02:19:13,219
I

3087
02:19:13,219 --> 02:19:15,960
support it

3088
02:19:15,960 --> 02:19:17,580
my support

3089
02:19:17,580 --> 02:19:19,559
well I'm going to make the motion that

3090
02:19:19,559 --> 02:19:21,840
we that we do it I'll second all those

3091
02:19:21,840 --> 02:19:25,080
in favor all right

3092
02:19:25,080 --> 02:19:27,059
um do you want to okay so I think I'm

3093
02:19:27,059 --> 02:19:28,260
going to just stick with most of these

3094
02:19:28,260 --> 02:19:29,160
items

3095
02:19:29,160 --> 02:19:33,359
to turn by Council or push them through

3096
02:19:33,359 --> 02:19:35,399
most information is here if there's

3097
02:19:35,399 --> 02:19:37,679
questions or if there's information that

3098
02:19:37,679 --> 02:19:39,540
yeah I want us to talk about the

3099
02:19:39,540 --> 02:19:41,939
electricity Co-op

3100
02:19:41,939 --> 02:19:43,559
because that's another one that has an

3101
02:19:43,559 --> 02:19:49,310
extension but they're asking for a year

3102
02:19:49,320 --> 02:20:20,929
and an additional 250 000.

3103
02:20:20,939 --> 02:20:22,260
so

3104
02:20:22,260 --> 02:20:28,910
um

3105
02:20:28,920 --> 02:20:33,490
yes

3106
02:20:33,500 --> 02:20:36,240
so when their update it's just like they

3107
02:20:36,240 --> 02:20:39,479
really outlined it for us

3108
02:20:39,479 --> 02:20:42,899
um they're our original resolution was

3109
02:20:42,899 --> 02:20:46,439
12 months from September 12 2022 they're

3110
02:20:46,439 --> 02:20:49,020
asking for 24 months from that date

3111
02:20:49,020 --> 02:20:50,880
which is really another year from this

3112
02:20:50,880 --> 02:20:55,370
date and um

3113
02:20:55,380 --> 02:20:58,380
they're asking for another 250 thousand

3114
02:20:58,380 --> 02:21:00,060
dollars

3115
02:21:00,060 --> 02:21:03,060
and also since the the scope of their

3116
02:21:03,060 --> 02:21:04,740
project has lowered the amount that

3117
02:21:04,740 --> 02:21:06,000
they're going through probably where our

3118
02:21:06,000 --> 02:21:08,640
project is going to be they've um the

3119
02:21:08,640 --> 02:21:11,399
resolution asset we asked that they

3120
02:21:11,399 --> 02:21:15,720
match 5.7 million and so since the scope

3121
02:21:15,720 --> 02:21:19,680
of the project is lower the cost of the Project's lower they're

3122
02:21:19,680 --> 02:21:21,780
asking that the proposed requirement

3123
02:21:21,780 --> 02:21:26,690
from us the lower

3124
02:21:26,700 --> 02:21:28,920
do you have this I just

3125
02:21:28,920 --> 02:21:31,670
so

3126
02:21:31,680 --> 02:21:36,540
that's kind of the overview of that one

3127
02:21:36,540 --> 02:21:39,140
right when we were still looking for the

3128
02:21:39,140 --> 02:21:41,520
5.7 million

3129
02:21:41,520 --> 02:21:43,560
additional communities

3130
02:21:43,560 --> 02:21:45,439
they're still looking for money

3131
02:21:45,439 --> 02:21:47,520
oh it looks like they're just looking

3132
02:21:47,520 --> 02:21:50,460
for four they're asking us to say they

3133
02:21:50,460 --> 02:21:52,920
want they want another 250 000 from us

3134
02:21:52,920 --> 02:21:56,120
but they're also asking for another year

3135
02:21:56,120 --> 02:21:59,399
in which to come up with the money that

3136
02:21:59,399 --> 02:22:01,260
they need but we have to keep in mind

3137
02:22:01,260 --> 02:22:03,600
that we're looking at a deadline from uh

3138
02:22:03,600 --> 02:22:05,340
from the federal government that we

3139
02:22:05,340 --> 02:22:06,960
really from the treasury Department that

3140
02:22:06,960 --> 02:22:09,240
you know and

3141
02:22:09,240 --> 02:22:12,359
um to Mr to Tara's point we may want to

3142
02:22:12,359 --> 02:22:17,530
try to stay pretty consistent

3143
02:22:17,540 --> 02:22:19,859
what we're doing

3144
02:22:19,859 --> 02:22:22,439
so a discussion around this particular

3145
02:22:22,439 --> 02:22:26,150
one

3146
02:22:26,160 --> 02:22:28,740
Mr Wayne although I feel uh

3147
02:22:28,740 --> 02:22:30,479
uncomfortable with that

3148
02:22:30,479 --> 02:22:33,080
here is where it pushes this up I

3149
02:22:33,080 --> 02:22:35,220
trust the judgment and the involvement

3150
02:22:35,220 --> 02:22:37,319
of Metroplex I think in evaluating that

3151
02:22:37,319 --> 02:22:38,819
they're looking at an entirely new site

3152
02:22:38,819 --> 02:22:41,100
I think it makes sense to give them a

3153
02:22:41,100 --> 02:22:43,500
portion of that but again I wouldn't

3154
02:22:43,500 --> 02:22:45,120
want us to push myself into the deadline

3155
02:22:45,120 --> 02:22:47,640
where we're we're treating and trying to

3156
02:22:47,640 --> 02:22:50,160
shuffle last night so I would I think

3157
02:22:50,160 --> 02:22:53,939
they said two 24 months which is a year

3158
02:22:53,939 --> 02:22:55,979
from now so we're truly talking about a

3159
02:22:55,979 --> 02:23:01,010
year

3160
02:23:01,020 --> 02:23:03,300
they're also asking for additional 250

3161
02:23:03,300 --> 02:23:06,110
thousand dollars

3162
02:23:06,120 --> 02:23:10,190
um

3163
02:23:10,200 --> 02:23:11,819
not that the scope of the project has

3164
02:23:11,819 --> 02:23:13,020
changed but they just asked them for

3165
02:23:13,020 --> 02:23:17,389
addition on Sunday

3166
02:23:17,399 --> 02:23:19,020
on the I would support six month

3167
02:23:19,020 --> 02:23:23,630
extension but I don't

3168
02:23:23,640 --> 02:23:26,040
feel badly though

3169
02:23:26,040 --> 02:23:30,230
um

3170
02:23:30,240 --> 02:23:33,600
and so um but not the not the 200 not

3171
02:23:33,600 --> 02:23:35,220
the additional funding what do you guys

3172
02:23:35,220 --> 02:23:37,100
I don't think so

3173
02:23:37,100 --> 02:23:39,660
anyone can come and ask for more money

3174
02:23:39,660 --> 02:23:48,650
no absolutely not

3175
02:23:48,660 --> 02:23:50,280
well we're not in contracts so I think

3176
02:23:50,280 --> 02:24:00,650
we should be able to be okay

3177
02:24:00,660 --> 02:24:04,670
employees

3178
02:24:04,680 --> 02:24:07,800
I was just raising the question so that

3179
02:24:07,800 --> 02:24:10,080
we're negotiating the terms of this and

3180
02:24:10,080 --> 02:24:13,380
whether not only happened

3181
02:24:13,380 --> 02:24:15,359
Electric City Co-Op now with some of

3182
02:24:15,359 --> 02:24:16,260
these

3183
02:24:16,260 --> 02:24:17,580
are some of these discussions

3184
02:24:17,580 --> 02:24:20,819
appropriate in executive session

3185
02:24:20,819 --> 02:24:25,429
as opposed to public session

3186
02:24:25,439 --> 02:24:26,819
so I thought if I was talking about

3187
02:24:26,819 --> 02:24:30,170
contracts we had to

3188
02:24:30,180 --> 02:24:32,700
so that's a question it's awarding the

3189
02:24:32,700 --> 02:24:34,200
contract has to be done in a public

3190
02:24:34,200 --> 02:24:36,240
essentially when you're negotiating the

3191
02:24:36,240 --> 02:24:40,670
terms and conditions of the contract

3192
02:24:40,680 --> 02:24:42,960
depending on what it is appropriate for

3193
02:24:42,960 --> 02:24:47,750
executives

3194
02:24:47,760 --> 02:24:50,220
like you're going to do some housing

3195
02:24:50,220 --> 02:24:51,300
sales

3196
02:24:51,300 --> 02:24:54,060
you might take the dollar amount that's

3197
02:24:54,060 --> 02:24:55,380
put forth you might ask for more

3198
02:24:55,380 --> 02:24:57,120
whatever you're negotiating that's

3199
02:24:57,120 --> 02:25:00,469
executive session

3200
02:25:00,479 --> 02:25:03,120
so yes you're like you get I don't

3201
02:25:03,120 --> 02:25:04,560
necessarily agree with that

3202
02:25:04,560 --> 02:25:06,420
um with housing is slightly different

3203
02:25:06,420 --> 02:25:07,859
because

3204
02:25:07,859 --> 02:25:10,260
I can get to the reasons why here

3205
02:25:10,260 --> 02:25:11,899
there's no contract

3206
02:25:11,899 --> 02:25:14,939
you're talking about the terms of that's

3207
02:25:14,939 --> 02:25:16,500
already been made public that the

3208
02:25:16,500 --> 02:25:19,020
council has required and you're simply

3209
02:25:19,020 --> 02:25:21,840
talking about modifying the terms of you

3210
02:25:21,840 --> 02:25:23,460
know the financial obligations that they

3211
02:25:23,460 --> 02:25:25,620
have to meet and the time in which

3212
02:25:25,620 --> 02:25:29,060
you're going to allow them to meet those

3213
02:25:29,060 --> 02:25:32,160
requirements there's currently no

3214
02:25:32,160 --> 02:25:35,220
contract between the city and these

3215
02:25:35,220 --> 02:25:36,359
entities

3216
02:25:36,359 --> 02:25:39,960
not modifying an existing contract

3217
02:25:39,960 --> 02:25:41,220
all right

3218
02:25:41,220 --> 02:25:43,380
and so the ones that are We There are

3219
02:25:43,380 --> 02:25:44,760
some that we're under contract with so

3220
02:25:44,760 --> 02:25:50,090
we will not discuss those

3221
02:25:50,100 --> 02:25:53,880
um so we're back to uh electricity Co-op

3222
02:25:53,880 --> 02:25:55,560
whether we're sorry we're interested in

3223
02:25:55,560 --> 02:25:59,389
granting the extension

3224
02:25:59,399 --> 02:26:02,220
yes no Mr pong meaning I'm sorry this is

3225
02:26:02,220 --> 02:26:04,740
just so arbitrary how we're going about

3226
02:26:04,740 --> 02:26:07,439
this and you know if I'm one of these

3227
02:26:07,439 --> 02:26:09,420
other organizations and I'm looking at

3228
02:26:09,420 --> 02:26:10,920
this

3229
02:26:10,920 --> 02:26:12,359
I'm thinking

3230
02:26:12,359 --> 02:26:14,460
you know potential lawsuits I'm thinking

3231
02:26:14,460 --> 02:26:15,899
all kinds of things that we're opening

3232
02:26:15,899 --> 02:26:19,560
ourselves up to and you know

3233
02:26:19,560 --> 02:26:22,200
it's just very arbitrary and very

3234
02:26:22,200 --> 02:26:23,880
problematic

3235
02:26:23,880 --> 02:26:26,460
um you know we're saying well this one

3236
02:26:26,460 --> 02:26:28,040
has four months we'll give it to them

3237
02:26:28,040 --> 02:26:30,359
this one after six months we'll give it

3238
02:26:30,359 --> 02:26:32,280
to him this one asked for 12 months nope

3239
02:26:32,280 --> 02:26:33,240
they're not going to give it to them

3240
02:26:33,240 --> 02:26:34,979
we'll give them six and I understand the

3241
02:26:34,979 --> 02:26:36,780
reason why but I'm just saying the

3242
02:26:36,780 --> 02:26:39,479
arbitrary aspect of it is very

3243
02:26:39,479 --> 02:26:41,580
problematic and and

3244
02:26:41,580 --> 02:26:43,200
I'm telling you if I was one of these

3245
02:26:43,200 --> 02:26:46,140
organizations I would

3246
02:26:46,140 --> 02:26:49,560
very much be looking at a lawsuit yes or

3247
02:26:49,560 --> 02:26:52,319
no it's definitely I'm not

3248
02:26:52,319 --> 02:26:55,800
I don't well we allow people to come to

3249
02:26:55,800 --> 02:27:00,359
us and say this is what we want so we're entertaining what they want so I

3250
02:27:00,359 --> 02:27:01,979
don't see the lawsuit I'm not saying

3251
02:27:01,979 --> 02:27:03,300
that you're not right I'm not but I

3252
02:27:03,300 --> 02:27:06,720
don't see that and um and in times in

3253
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:08,760
terms of the time frame we still we've

3254
02:27:08,760 --> 02:27:10,500
made it very clear to the organizations

3255
02:27:10,500 --> 02:27:12,660
that we have a time frame that we have

3256
02:27:12,660 --> 02:27:15,600
to stick with so if they ask isn't what

3257
02:27:15,600 --> 02:27:18,899
we can reasonably do then it's an ask

3258
02:27:18,899 --> 02:27:20,880
it's not a demand it's not saying you

3259
02:27:20,880 --> 02:27:23,100
know you we can't do without this it's

3260
02:27:23,100 --> 02:27:25,020
an ask but we've already set forth the

3261
02:27:25,020 --> 02:27:27,540
timeline for when we have to meet for

3262
02:27:27,540 --> 02:27:28,920
the federal government that's not going

3263
02:27:28,920 --> 02:27:30,840
to change we may be talking about three

3264
02:27:30,840 --> 02:27:33,420
months left if you know once we read

3265
02:27:33,420 --> 02:27:35,460
through that information so we have to

3266
02:27:35,460 --> 02:27:37,200
stick to our timelines and making these

3267
02:27:37,200 --> 02:27:41,889
decisions we also have to consider that

3268
02:27:41,899 --> 02:27:44,520
as far as I mean I know people can

3269
02:27:44,520 --> 02:27:46,979
pursue litigation for any reason that

3270
02:27:46,979 --> 02:27:49,620
they see are you sharing the same

3271
02:27:49,620 --> 02:27:50,580
concern that you're hearing about

3272
02:27:50,580 --> 02:27:54,300
organizations of possibly uh assuming

3273
02:27:54,300 --> 02:27:55,620
that's what the process that we're

3274
02:27:55,620 --> 02:27:57,600
engaging in right now

3275
02:27:57,600 --> 02:28:00,660
I mean it's a hypothetical and I don't

3276
02:28:00,660 --> 02:28:01,740
want to get down the road of

3277
02:28:01,740 --> 02:28:04,740
hypotheticals I don't necessarily see a

3278
02:28:04,740 --> 02:28:07,740
cause of action unless the city is doing

3279
02:28:07,740 --> 02:28:11,819
something that is irrational

3280
02:28:11,819 --> 02:28:15,120
generally this you know the work that

3281
02:28:15,120 --> 02:28:16,979
the city council does as it relates to

3282
02:28:16,979 --> 02:28:19,620
this has to stand up to having a

3283
02:28:19,620 --> 02:28:21,840
rational basis

3284
02:28:21,840 --> 02:28:27,530
thank you

3285
02:28:27,540 --> 02:28:31,819
so what we're discussing is again

3286
02:28:31,819 --> 02:28:34,140
well they're asking for a year extension

3287
02:28:34,140 --> 02:28:35,760
we have to make a decision on that

3288
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:37,979
keeping in mind what our time frame is

3289
02:28:37,979 --> 02:28:44,530
an additional 250.

3290
02:28:44,540 --> 02:28:46,800
it was clear over here and I think you

3291
02:28:46,800 --> 02:28:49,319
said no I just want to be clear since

3292
02:28:49,319 --> 02:28:51,420
we're training extensions

3293
02:28:51,420 --> 02:28:53,399
across the board I'll go with six months

3294
02:28:53,399 --> 02:28:55,859
but additional money at this point you

3295
02:28:55,859 --> 02:28:57,660
know okay since we're denying everyone

3296
02:28:57,660 --> 02:29:00,710
else

3297
02:29:00,720 --> 02:29:03,720
uh Miss Williams

3298
02:29:03,720 --> 02:29:06,540
with with the extension and withholding

3299
02:29:06,540 --> 02:29:08,520
the additional phone calls what's going

3300
02:29:08,520 --> 02:29:11,340
on in agreement with the extension and

3301
02:29:11,340 --> 02:29:13,500
not entertaining the additional funds

3302
02:29:13,500 --> 02:29:25,730
request see

3303
02:29:25,740 --> 02:29:28,500
Habitat for Humanity to me there wasn't

3304
02:29:28,500 --> 02:29:31,140
enough information I wasn't really it

3305
02:29:31,140 --> 02:29:33,240
just said I don't think they're asking

3306
02:29:33,240 --> 02:29:36,000
for anything yeah they're saying

3307
02:29:36,000 --> 02:29:41,150
I'm not really

3308
02:29:41,160 --> 02:29:42,660
oh they're saying they still have to get

3309
02:29:42,660 --> 02:29:45,300
us the paperwork all right so so we have

3310
02:29:45,300 --> 02:29:46,800
100

3311
02:29:46,800 --> 02:29:48,540
000. I'm looking this is what they said

3312
02:29:48,540 --> 02:29:51,479
this is a Contracting place it's the

3313
02:29:51,479 --> 02:29:53,460
contract in place okay well then I guess

3314
02:29:53,460 --> 02:30:01,150
that means that we can't discuss it

3315
02:30:01,160 --> 02:30:03,240
they only have one

3316
02:30:03,240 --> 02:30:09,110
all right there's a Contracting place

3317
02:30:09,120 --> 02:30:11,580
yeah this one I think is we don't have

3318
02:30:11,580 --> 02:30:14,510
to discuss it

3319
02:30:14,520 --> 02:30:18,010
um

3320
02:30:18,020 --> 02:30:20,280
I think it's the same as what they asked

3321
02:30:20,280 --> 02:30:23,220
for I mean yeah right so the Green

3322
02:30:23,220 --> 02:30:26,160
Market though I do think that they are

3323
02:30:26,160 --> 02:30:28,560
their information that needs to be

3324
02:30:28,560 --> 02:30:31,620
updated that they sent us okay it was it

3325
02:30:31,620 --> 02:30:33,180
was the information needs to be updated

3326
02:30:33,180 --> 02:30:35,520
if you notice that it referred to 2022

3327
02:30:35,520 --> 02:30:38,220
and 24 so their information needs to be

3328
02:30:38,220 --> 02:30:40,500
updated

3329
02:30:40,500 --> 02:30:42,540
we'll put that on the side also excuse

3330
02:30:42,540 --> 02:30:43,979
me please should we put that aside then

3331
02:30:43,979 --> 02:30:45,540
yeah okay I think they need to be

3332
02:30:45,540 --> 02:30:52,969
updated

3333
02:30:52,979 --> 02:30:55,620
you said that jewelry reached out to you

3334
02:30:55,620 --> 02:30:58,859
um yeah so she reached out to me uh

3335
02:30:58,859 --> 02:31:00,479
Esther and he reached out

3336
02:31:00,479 --> 02:31:03,600
um they warning about their funding

3337
02:31:03,600 --> 02:31:04,319
um

3338
02:31:04,319 --> 02:31:08,120
emailed Ron Garner to see

3339
02:31:08,120 --> 02:31:12,120
the updates on that and to see if he had

3340
02:31:12,120 --> 02:31:21,420
a cost of the project

3341
02:31:21,430 --> 02:31:25,309
[Music]

3342
02:31:25,319 --> 02:31:30,889
yes

3343
02:31:30,899 --> 02:31:32,880
so the seat centers income they were in

3344
02:31:32,880 --> 02:31:34,620
contract right so we don't have to talk

3345
02:31:34,620 --> 02:31:35,939
about that one

3346
02:31:35,939 --> 02:31:41,630
right yes no no we do not

3347
02:31:41,640 --> 02:31:43,740
um and cocoa house is not in contract is

3348
02:31:43,740 --> 02:31:45,780
that correct

3349
02:31:45,780 --> 02:31:49,380
is correct Okay so all right football

3350
02:31:49,380 --> 02:31:54,960
house um was awarded 500 000 and now

3351
02:31:54,960 --> 02:31:59,929
they want to change their the use

3352
02:31:59,939 --> 02:32:02,399
um which they asked us they asked us

3353
02:32:02,399 --> 02:32:04,380
about that a long time ago we just we

3354
02:32:04,380 --> 02:32:06,240
didn't get that yeah because we hadn't

3355
02:32:06,240 --> 02:32:07,680
had that conversation right it didn't

3356
02:32:07,680 --> 02:32:11,100
come back quite frankly and uh so

3357
02:32:11,100 --> 02:32:14,640
they're asking for for new staff

3358
02:32:14,640 --> 02:32:19,620
asking for 200 000 year one in year two

3359
02:32:19,620 --> 02:32:21,420
if I'm interpreting this correctly and

3360
02:32:21,420 --> 02:32:24,359
then 100 000 in year three

3361
02:32:24,359 --> 02:32:28,670
is that what you have uh

3362
02:32:28,680 --> 02:32:39,469
here

3363
02:32:39,479 --> 02:32:42,479
it's the same as Carver basically their

3364
02:32:42,479 --> 02:32:44,939
original project was I think 3.5 million

3365
02:32:44,939 --> 02:32:46,500
if I'm reading this correctly without my

3366
02:32:46,500 --> 02:32:48,840
glasses I gave them five hundred

3367
02:32:48,840 --> 02:32:50,760
thousand dollars they're basically

3368
02:32:50,760 --> 02:32:52,140
saying

3369
02:32:52,140 --> 02:32:54,120
they want to change because they want to

3370
02:32:54,120 --> 02:33:01,010
use the 500 000 but not towards that

3371
02:33:01,020 --> 02:33:02,520
the changing the scope abroad so

3372
02:33:02,520 --> 02:33:04,439
changing the scope of what their money

3373
02:33:04,439 --> 02:33:08,520
used to learn for well okay yes it was

3374
02:33:08,520 --> 02:33:12,560
exactly that they produced yeah a budget

3375
02:33:12,560 --> 02:33:16,080
and they're asking for

3376
02:33:16,080 --> 02:33:18,000
two hundred thousand dollars for the use

3377
02:33:18,000 --> 02:33:20,939
of for 200 200

3378
02:33:20,939 --> 02:33:23,760
I don't know how they came okay so I'm

3379
02:33:23,760 --> 02:33:25,200
guessing this is just with the salary

3380
02:33:25,200 --> 02:33:26,760
that they're going to say is going to be

3381
02:33:26,760 --> 02:33:31,429
used they really haven't broken down

3382
02:33:31,439 --> 02:33:34,500
oh yes I have 240 the first year the

3383
02:33:34,500 --> 02:33:37,620
Arca 160 the second year and a hundred

3384
02:33:37,620 --> 02:33:43,070
thousand third year

3385
02:33:43,080 --> 02:33:45,540
I guess um for me the question would be

3386
02:33:45,540 --> 02:33:47,040
Staffing I see that there's only one

3387
02:33:47,040 --> 02:33:49,560
stash so

3388
02:33:49,560 --> 02:33:51,780
I think that what they came back to us

3389
02:33:51,780 --> 02:33:52,740
with

3390
02:33:52,740 --> 02:33:54,899
um was increasing their Staffing so that

3391
02:33:54,899 --> 02:33:55,979
they could provide additional

3392
02:33:55,979 --> 02:33:57,960
programming so that's what they're now

3393
02:33:57,960 --> 02:33:59,700
asking us for as opposed to the capital

3394
02:33:59,700 --> 02:34:01,500
project which is what they originally

3395
02:34:01,500 --> 02:34:04,380
asked someone and

3396
02:34:04,380 --> 02:34:06,000
it's probably they're not asking for

3397
02:34:06,000 --> 02:34:08,340
additional funds they're just asking for

3398
02:34:08,340 --> 02:34:21,309
children James Grace

3399
02:34:21,319 --> 02:34:23,040
all right

3400
02:34:23,040 --> 02:34:25,439
so I am in agreement with the

3401
02:34:25,439 --> 02:34:27,600
development property aspect based on

3402
02:34:27,600 --> 02:34:28,979
their timeline which I think was very

3403
02:34:28,979 --> 02:34:31,439
well thought out I think it's clear how

3404
02:34:31,439 --> 02:34:33,479
they intend to use that portion of the

3405
02:34:33,479 --> 02:34:35,340
money and with respect to the personal

3406
02:34:35,340 --> 02:34:37,620
hires I think it just highlights the

3407
02:34:37,620 --> 02:34:39,660
executive director so I would like to

3408
02:34:39,660 --> 02:34:41,819
know is there additional positions that

3409
02:34:41,819 --> 02:34:43,260
they're planning on hiring or is it

3410
02:34:43,260 --> 02:34:44,580
truly sitting within that one position

3411
02:34:44,580 --> 02:34:46,620
which I imagine is not the case so I

3412
02:34:46,620 --> 02:34:51,770
would like more information about that

3413
02:34:51,780 --> 02:34:53,939
other people so perhaps what we should

3414
02:34:53,939 --> 02:34:55,740
do with this one is the same that we're

3415
02:34:55,740 --> 02:34:57,660
saying we're doing with the YW which is

3416
02:34:57,660 --> 02:34:59,819
having them come in also in a future

3417
02:34:59,819 --> 02:35:01,560
meeting and talk to us about to change

3418
02:35:01,560 --> 02:35:05,040
the scope right I think what is

3419
02:35:05,040 --> 02:35:07,560
I thought we said we just get in writing

3420
02:35:07,560 --> 02:35:09,960
and look at it but oh okay whichever way

3421
02:35:09,960 --> 02:35:12,240
all right although so but I would I

3422
02:35:12,240 --> 02:35:14,100
would say we definitely um would need to

3423
02:35:14,100 --> 02:35:16,520
have those questions answered

3424
02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:23,040
so yeah okay it saves as well

3425
02:35:23,040 --> 02:35:26,990
oops

3426
02:35:27,000 --> 02:35:30,300
and um the Proctors is under in contract

3427
02:35:30,300 --> 02:35:33,530
that is correct

3428
02:35:33,540 --> 02:35:35,640
well I think Anthony told us that the

3429
02:35:35,640 --> 02:35:37,560
last 10 hours I do have some questions

3430
02:35:37,560 --> 02:35:47,570
so we would have to do that in uh okay

3431
02:35:47,580 --> 02:35:51,300
um did we have anymore or are there more we

3432
02:35:51,300 --> 02:35:52,680
have the um

3433
02:35:52,680 --> 02:35:55,080
extension for the Empowerment Center and

3434
02:35:55,080 --> 02:36:00,849
the extension to the Stars Hamilton

3435
02:36:00,859 --> 02:36:03,240
the Staffing Association the North

3436
02:36:03,240 --> 02:36:07,020
Street Station the old one my

3437
02:36:07,020 --> 02:36:08,520
understanding is that's something that's

3438
02:36:08,520 --> 02:36:11,040
being done in house map

3439
02:36:11,040 --> 02:36:14,580
as opposed to the sake Associates some

3440
02:36:14,580 --> 02:36:16,620
of the money to do a little bit of

3441
02:36:16,620 --> 02:36:19,200
facade work the reality is you got to

3442
02:36:19,200 --> 02:36:22,560
rescind that original resolution so

3443
02:36:22,560 --> 02:36:25,200
it's a city property we're not good

3444
02:36:25,200 --> 02:36:27,180
to go up contract somebody else to come

3445
02:36:27,180 --> 02:36:29,580
back in and deal with them the problem

3446
02:36:29,580 --> 02:36:30,840
is that

3447
02:36:30,840 --> 02:36:34,620
the decision stole hasn't been made is

3448
02:36:34,620 --> 02:36:36,899
what the Adaptive reuse of that building

3449
02:36:36,899 --> 02:36:39,889
is going to be

3450
02:36:39,899 --> 02:36:41,880
and that's and so is that where The

3451
02:36:41,880 --> 02:36:44,040
Stockade Association is talking to the

3452
02:36:44,040 --> 02:36:51,349
development about

3453
02:36:51,359 --> 02:36:55,250
a firm

3454
02:36:55,260 --> 02:36:57,359
plan of what it would be and some of

3455
02:36:57,359 --> 02:36:59,399
that because when you go in and there's

3456
02:36:59,399 --> 02:37:02,160
no real first floor there's okay so you

3457
02:37:02,160 --> 02:37:04,020
have to establish

3458
02:37:04,020 --> 02:37:05,880
a floor there

3459
02:37:05,880 --> 02:37:07,740
do it but what we've done is taken a

3460
02:37:07,740 --> 02:37:10,080
little bit of the money and done decide

3461
02:37:10,080 --> 02:37:13,080
more to preserve the windows other

3462
02:37:13,080 --> 02:37:14,819
things that would deteriorated just to

3463
02:37:14,819 --> 02:37:22,730
maintain the outside

3464
02:37:22,740 --> 02:37:24,479
I'm just wondering why we need to be

3465
02:37:24,479 --> 02:37:25,979
saying this a long time ago because it

3466
02:37:25,979 --> 02:37:36,070
already came back in house

3467
02:37:36,080 --> 02:37:38,220
because I was told by the stocking

3468
02:37:38,220 --> 02:37:40,020
Association that they were told by

3469
02:37:40,020 --> 02:37:42,600
development that they could not do it

3470
02:37:42,600 --> 02:37:44,100
because they were not a 501c3 in

3471
02:37:44,100 --> 02:37:48,130
development

3472
02:37:48,140 --> 02:37:51,060
okay we're appropriating money for we

3473
02:37:51,060 --> 02:37:52,680
don't appropriate it to a third-party

3474
02:37:52,680 --> 02:37:55,620
group to come back in and so that

3475
02:37:55,620 --> 02:37:58,560
resolution is still there okay so my

3476
02:37:58,560 --> 02:38:00,060
recommendation something like the

3477
02:38:00,060 --> 02:38:02,700
council has to resume that okay come

3478
02:38:02,700 --> 02:38:07,620
back and I would hope that we have a

3479
02:38:07,620 --> 02:38:10,080
formal plan is what we can do with it

3480
02:38:10,080 --> 02:38:12,899
when we take that action when you take

3481
02:38:12,899 --> 02:38:14,100
that action

3482
02:38:14,100 --> 02:38:16,500
okay okay well

3483
02:38:16,500 --> 02:38:19,080
um so I guess that in this case we have

3484
02:38:19,080 --> 02:38:22,700
to continue motion to resend that um

3485
02:38:22,700 --> 02:38:24,660
it's about the resolution the

3486
02:38:24,660 --> 02:38:26,939
Appropriations yeah that's contained in

3487
02:38:26,939 --> 02:38:28,620
that resolution okay all right I'll make

3488
02:38:28,620 --> 02:38:30,180
that motion to

3489
02:38:30,180 --> 02:38:31,220
um

3490
02:38:31,220 --> 02:38:33,500
the

3491
02:38:33,500 --> 02:38:37,680
uh 750 000 through the stock case to The

3492
02:38:37,680 --> 02:38:40,140
Stockade Association yeah I'll second

3493
02:38:40,140 --> 02:38:42,359
that all in favor

3494
02:38:42,359 --> 02:38:45,469
all right

3495
02:38:45,479 --> 02:38:50,120
was there other ones that's who else

3496
02:38:50,120 --> 02:38:51,979
I'm sorry

3497
02:38:51,979 --> 02:38:54,240
Hamilton hill art center I think they're

3498
02:38:54,240 --> 02:38:58,010
in contract aren't they enough

3499
02:38:58,020 --> 02:39:00,000
they require additional 300 000

3500
02:39:00,000 --> 02:39:03,720
commitment really I don't know okay

3501
02:39:03,720 --> 02:39:06,180
I didn't see that

3502
02:39:06,180 --> 02:39:07,620
I had

3503
02:39:07,620 --> 02:39:17,570
thank you

3504
02:39:17,580 --> 02:39:19,620
yeah I don't think they're asking us for

3505
02:39:19,620 --> 02:39:21,720
that money though my reading of this

3506
02:39:21,720 --> 02:39:23,460
email they're not asking us for that

3507
02:39:23,460 --> 02:39:24,720
money they're basically saying that

3508
02:39:24,720 --> 02:39:25,939
they're getting them

3509
02:39:25,939 --> 02:39:28,319
so I don't think we really have are they

3510
02:39:28,319 --> 02:39:30,020
looking for an extension though it says

3511
02:39:30,020 --> 02:39:32,460
establishing for an extension but I

3512
02:39:32,460 --> 02:39:33,780
don't see that

3513
02:39:33,780 --> 02:39:35,880
I know I don't see the information they

3514
02:39:35,880 --> 02:39:38,880
sent to us is that Anthony's handwriting

3515
02:39:38,880 --> 02:39:43,270
that's at the top of this yeah

3516
02:39:43,280 --> 02:39:45,180
so I don't think we have to do anything

3517
02:39:45,180 --> 02:39:47,220
with us here honestly I think we have to

3518
02:39:47,220 --> 02:39:49,399
get clarity on there because

3519
02:39:49,399 --> 02:39:52,439
so can we get clearly from the article

3520
02:39:52,439 --> 02:39:54,960
Center exactly what they're yeah if they

3521
02:39:54,960 --> 02:40:03,290
need because it says

3522
02:40:03,300 --> 02:40:05,040
that's Anthony's but they didn't say

3523
02:40:05,040 --> 02:40:05,819
that

3524
02:40:05,819 --> 02:40:11,090
right that's right

3525
02:40:11,100 --> 02:40:12,479
the boys and girls club is under

3526
02:40:12,479 --> 02:40:13,800
contract

3527
02:40:13,800 --> 02:40:15,359
okay so we can put the Hamilton Hill

3528
02:40:15,359 --> 02:40:23,690
Arts Center aside yes and move on

3529
02:40:23,700 --> 02:40:24,780
oh

3530
02:40:24,780 --> 02:40:29,870
the Empowerment Center

3531
02:40:29,880 --> 02:40:31,920
great discuss that

3532
02:40:31,920 --> 02:40:33,600
so they're asking for an extension as

3533
02:40:33,600 --> 02:40:35,340
well right

3534
02:40:35,340 --> 02:40:36,899
so I do have a question about the

3535
02:40:36,899 --> 02:40:38,100
unconference center mayor and I guess

3536
02:40:38,100 --> 02:40:39,660
it's really questions for you this

3537
02:40:39,660 --> 02:40:42,540
property of City owned so are we in the

3538
02:40:42,540 --> 02:40:45,660
same situation as we are with um

3539
02:40:45,660 --> 02:40:48,590
conversation

3540
02:40:48,600 --> 02:40:53,100
so this we have a plan for it okay we

3541
02:40:53,100 --> 02:40:58,429
don't have money to fund the plan

3542
02:40:58,439 --> 02:41:00,180
you have a plan but you don't have money

3543
02:41:00,180 --> 02:41:02,700
to fund the plan the numbers the

3544
02:41:02,700 --> 02:41:05,420
estimates are just coming in okay

3545
02:41:05,420 --> 02:41:09,170
greater amounts

3546
02:41:09,180 --> 02:41:13,260
of what is your consumptions

3547
02:41:13,260 --> 02:41:16,859
so um Mr he didn't really give us an

3548
02:41:16,859 --> 02:41:20,040
update on those changes Mr Gardner did

3549
02:41:20,040 --> 02:41:21,479
not give us any update on that I did

3550
02:41:21,479 --> 02:41:23,939
reach out to him today

3551
02:41:23,939 --> 02:41:28,450
if there's any updates

3552
02:41:28,460 --> 02:41:30,960
well there's no action you can take

3553
02:41:30,960 --> 02:41:32,700
without knowing the last time the

3554
02:41:32,700 --> 02:41:34,500
projected estimates were way over what

3555
02:41:34,500 --> 02:41:36,540
we were

3556
02:41:36,540 --> 02:41:38,040
upon this project

3557
02:41:38,040 --> 02:41:39,899
yeah

3558
02:41:39,899 --> 02:41:43,610
we don't know any of it so we can't

3559
02:41:43,620 --> 02:41:45,859
did she have your hands up

3560
02:41:45,859 --> 02:41:49,140
so I had a question about the master

3561
02:41:49,140 --> 02:41:50,819
contract agreement I didn't know if

3562
02:41:50,819 --> 02:41:52,319
there was an estimate and we can get on

3563
02:41:52,319 --> 02:41:53,640
when that would be completed I know they

3564
02:41:53,640 --> 02:41:54,500
said

3565
02:41:54,500 --> 02:41:57,120
foreign right

3566
02:41:57,120 --> 02:41:59,640
he's definitely not a contract when we

3567
02:41:59,640 --> 02:42:01,620
begin or when we begin

3568
02:42:01,620 --> 02:42:09,010
when we can expect it back

3569
02:42:09,020 --> 02:42:11,880
and then uh you said the next step of

3570
02:42:11,880 --> 02:42:13,560
identifying executive director would

3571
02:42:13,560 --> 02:42:15,359
that be a position within the city Mr

3572
02:42:15,359 --> 02:42:17,819
maybe you speak to that or

3573
02:42:17,819 --> 02:42:19,620
so my question was how would that

3574
02:42:19,620 --> 02:42:23,389
position be funded

3575
02:42:23,399 --> 02:42:27,610
I don't know at this point

3576
02:42:27,620 --> 02:42:31,680
I think my memory of the application was

3577
02:42:31,680 --> 02:42:33,420
that the executive director was part of

3578
02:42:33,420 --> 02:42:35,640
the money that we rewarding to them

3579
02:42:35,640 --> 02:42:37,560
I think but I'd have to go back into the

3580
02:42:37,560 --> 02:42:39,300
application

3581
02:42:39,300 --> 02:42:41,460
and I just want to point out that we

3582
02:42:41,460 --> 02:42:43,080
gave them

3583
02:42:43,080 --> 02:42:45,660
one point

3584
02:42:45,660 --> 02:42:48,720
75 5 million and that is what they're

3585
02:42:48,720 --> 02:42:53,340
needing if you add 875 and

3586
02:42:53,340 --> 02:42:56,700
200 doesn't that come up to 107.550

3587
02:42:56,700 --> 02:42:58,200
so there's no question we already

3588
02:42:58,200 --> 02:43:00,240
awarded we already did that

3589
02:43:00,240 --> 02:43:02,100
appropriation so I don't think there's

3590
02:43:02,100 --> 02:43:03,960
anything

3591
02:43:03,960 --> 02:43:05,760
unless it comes unless they need more

3592
02:43:05,760 --> 02:43:07,740
money I think well mayor's saying that

3593
02:43:07,740 --> 02:43:09,479
the cost is increasing am I understand

3594
02:43:09,479 --> 02:43:11,220
that correct um

3595
02:43:11,220 --> 02:43:23,750
foreign

3596
02:43:23,760 --> 02:43:45,530
except

3597
02:43:45,540 --> 02:43:47,000
um

3598
02:43:47,000 --> 02:43:49,560
yeah I wanted to have a discussion about

3599
02:43:49,560 --> 02:43:51,359
that

3600
02:43:51,359 --> 02:43:58,190
is it there's furthermore Mr um yes

3601
02:43:58,200 --> 02:44:00,420
that we should discuss

3602
02:44:00,420 --> 02:44:15,290
um

3603
02:44:15,300 --> 02:44:16,979
of course it was just like so we're

3604
02:44:16,979 --> 02:44:19,080
discussing I don't understand why we

3605
02:44:19,080 --> 02:44:20,520
have to go into executive session to

3606
02:44:20,520 --> 02:44:21,780
discuss

3607
02:44:21,780 --> 02:44:24,830
contract

3608
02:44:24,840 --> 02:44:27,780
that practice is already under contract

3609
02:44:27,780 --> 02:44:30,660
you know I I understand that

3610
02:44:30,660 --> 02:44:32,580
I still think that that falls in this

3611
02:44:32,580 --> 02:44:35,170
particular session

3612
02:44:35,180 --> 02:44:37,680
I don't necessarily I actually agree

3613
02:44:37,680 --> 02:44:39,240
with Mr Charlie but I think it's

3614
02:44:39,240 --> 02:44:41,460
possible that an executive session it

3615
02:44:41,460 --> 02:44:43,080
does not it does not follow the

3616
02:44:43,080 --> 02:44:44,960
executive stuff in there

3617
02:44:44,960 --> 02:44:47,939
articulated items that would fall with

3618
02:44:47,939 --> 02:44:49,260
an executive session

3619
02:44:49,260 --> 02:44:51,479
reason why we do property sales an

3620
02:44:51,479 --> 02:44:52,979
executive session that came up as a

3621
02:44:52,979 --> 02:44:55,140
comparison is because it's very specific

3622
02:44:55,140 --> 02:44:57,680
into real property sales as a matter of

3623
02:44:57,680 --> 02:44:59,640
executive session because it could

3624
02:44:59,640 --> 02:45:00,960
impact if the council doesn't move

3625
02:45:00,960 --> 02:45:03,240
forward how we sell Properties or that

3626
02:45:03,240 --> 02:45:05,399
particular property not approved it's

3627
02:45:05,399 --> 02:45:06,840
something that somebody already under

3628
02:45:06,840 --> 02:45:10,220
contract is not subject to

3629
02:45:10,220 --> 02:45:13,140
Executive session unless something comes

3630
02:45:13,140 --> 02:45:15,960
up in the discussion at a specific to

3631
02:45:15,960 --> 02:45:18,260
something that would be a matter of

3632
02:45:18,260 --> 02:45:21,120
executive session

3633
02:45:21,120 --> 02:45:22,500
all right

3634
02:45:22,500 --> 02:45:27,140
so my question regarding where is this

3635
02:45:27,140 --> 02:45:33,650
is we appropriated the money when

3636
02:45:33,660 --> 02:45:37,080
9 12 2022

3637
02:45:37,080 --> 02:45:41,240
and the props that we're asking to cover

3638
02:45:41,240 --> 02:45:44,640
are previous to that date

3639
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:49,670
that's what Mr Ferrari told us

3640
02:45:49,680 --> 02:45:52,500
so they basically I think you can work

3641
02:45:52,500 --> 02:45:55,140
ahead with them both saved again I'm

3642
02:45:55,140 --> 02:45:56,520
sorry but the same with the Cardinal

3643
02:45:56,520 --> 02:45:57,899
Community Center they're looking to get

3644
02:45:57,899 --> 02:45:59,340
these two grants

3645
02:45:59,340 --> 02:46:01,680
they were they're hoping to get the 500

3646
02:46:01,680 --> 02:46:05,479
000 and the 250 000 of them

3647
02:46:05,479 --> 02:46:08,180
it's a very difficult

3648
02:46:08,180 --> 02:46:10,200
I guess what I'm saying is it sounds

3649
02:46:10,200 --> 02:46:11,580
like Proctors thought they were going to

3650
02:46:11,580 --> 02:46:12,960
get the money so they went ahead and did

3651
02:46:12,960 --> 02:46:14,540
the work no no

3652
02:46:14,540 --> 02:46:16,979
and then figured they could get article

3653
02:46:16,979 --> 02:46:19,020
funding for it well they put in me on

3654
02:46:19,020 --> 02:46:21,359
vacation after the work was done

3655
02:46:21,359 --> 02:46:24,849
completely

3656
02:46:24,859 --> 02:46:26,880
believe that's really against the

3657
02:46:26,880 --> 02:46:28,380
guidelines in terms of the harbor money

3658
02:46:28,380 --> 02:46:30,359
that you can't you can't we can't cover

3659
02:46:30,359 --> 02:46:31,740
cost of something that's already been

3660
02:46:31,740 --> 02:46:33,300
done I'm pretty I'm pretty sure I'm

3661
02:46:33,300 --> 02:46:34,800
clear on that

3662
02:46:34,800 --> 02:46:35,960
um

3663
02:46:35,960 --> 02:46:37,939
so

3664
02:46:37,939 --> 02:46:40,620
that's my concern there I mean others

3665
02:46:40,620 --> 02:46:42,359
you know we can certainly have that

3666
02:46:42,359 --> 02:46:45,660
discussion around that they do have two

3667
02:46:45,660 --> 02:46:51,849
um yeah

3668
02:46:51,859 --> 02:46:55,439
912 correct you have three cars so those

3669
02:46:55,439 --> 02:47:04,910
could be considered

3670
02:47:04,920 --> 02:47:07,680
against me I said this before I say it

3671
02:47:07,680 --> 02:47:08,600
again

3672
02:47:08,600 --> 02:47:11,460
this is problematic

3673
02:47:11,460 --> 02:47:15,359
um you know they're spent the money

3674
02:47:15,359 --> 02:47:17,520
they obviously had the money to do the

3675
02:47:17,520 --> 02:47:19,620
project and now they're asking for money

3676
02:47:19,620 --> 02:47:21,180
besides

3677
02:47:21,180 --> 02:47:22,680
no

3678
02:47:22,680 --> 02:47:26,819
okay

3679
02:47:26,819 --> 02:47:31,550
yes Mr Probz

3680
02:47:31,560 --> 02:47:33,780
Excellence you don't know I'd say based

3681
02:47:33,780 --> 02:47:35,880
on the pretense at which all of this was

3682
02:47:35,880 --> 02:47:41,929
submitted I would agree as well

3683
02:47:41,939 --> 02:47:49,010
yes I will make emergency

3684
02:47:49,020 --> 02:47:52,200
so yes that is what we did so so yes

3685
02:47:52,200 --> 02:47:53,880
that is what we did with uh the North

3686
02:47:53,880 --> 02:47:56,100
Street pump Ferry Station

3687
02:47:56,100 --> 02:47:58,140
yeah

3688
02:47:58,140 --> 02:48:01,500
yes okay so what is your motion to

3689
02:48:01,500 --> 02:48:03,899
rescind the appropriation all right did

3690
02:48:03,899 --> 02:48:05,100
you do that that's what we must have

3691
02:48:05,100 --> 02:48:06,899
done with the Aquatic Center as well

3692
02:48:06,899 --> 02:48:08,640
then yes

3693
02:48:08,640 --> 02:48:11,700
uh I'll second it all in favor

3694
02:48:11,700 --> 02:48:15,469
aye

3695
02:48:15,479 --> 02:48:18,420
all right is that the last one yes I

3696
02:48:18,420 --> 02:48:25,550
believe so

3697
02:48:25,560 --> 02:48:31,969
um

3698
02:48:31,979 --> 02:48:47,590
the next couple days

3699
02:48:47,600 --> 02:48:52,370
okay um

3700
02:48:52,380 --> 02:49:00,610
three items are about properties

3701
02:49:00,620 --> 02:49:02,939
foreclosures are About Properties I

3702
02:49:02,939 --> 02:49:05,399
understand but it depends on on the

3703
02:49:05,399 --> 02:49:07,319
context of this is a discussion item

3704
02:49:07,319 --> 02:49:09,000
right I'm sorry so I don't know the

3705
02:49:09,000 --> 02:49:10,260
context of

3706
02:49:10,260 --> 02:49:13,040
this item to know

3707
02:49:13,040 --> 02:49:15,420
if it's going to be a discussion on

3708
02:49:15,420 --> 02:49:16,979
selling Properties or if it's a

3709
02:49:16,979 --> 02:49:21,720
discussion on the foreclosures so I

3710
02:49:21,720 --> 02:49:23,760
would say it's a prop it's a discussion

3711
02:49:23,760 --> 02:49:25,859
on selling them based on the information

3712
02:49:25,859 --> 02:49:28,439
that we're receiving okay that's

3713
02:49:28,439 --> 02:49:30,660
okay

3714
02:49:30,660 --> 02:49:34,870
um

3715
02:49:34,880 --> 02:49:38,160
though we have to just recess claims oh

3716
02:49:38,160 --> 02:49:41,100
okay I mean we said development oh right

3717
02:49:41,100 --> 02:49:42,180
that's right because we have current

3718
02:49:42,180 --> 02:49:44,700
score yeah okay okay so I will make the

3719
02:49:44,700 --> 02:49:47,399
motion for you development planning okay

3720
02:49:47,399 --> 02:49:51,000
thanks all in favor um now I'm going to

3721
02:49:51,000 --> 02:49:53,100
open up claims and

3722
02:49:53,100 --> 02:49:55,319
um we need to discuss this in executive

3723
02:49:55,319 --> 02:49:57,660
session so I need a motion to go into

3724
02:49:57,660 --> 02:50:00,500
executive sessions

3725
02:50:00,500 --> 02:50:03,359
thank you thank you all right executive

3726
02:50:03,359 --> 02:50:05,460
session and

3727
02:50:05,460 --> 02:50:08,720
public would have to leave