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they [39:12] previously submitted an extension [39:15] request for the council so today's [39:16] presentation hopefully will provide a [39:18] little bit of clarity and support for [39:20] that [39:23] Amendment [39:25] ready [39:29] can those are for [39:31] people on [39:33] TV good you can hear me okay yeah okay [39:37] hi I'm Chad kilborn I'm the president of [39:38] the board of Better Community [39:40] neighborhoods Incorporated and um I will [39:43] talk through the um what we call the [39:46] Hamilton Hill infill project which the [39:48] arpa funds were allocated for then [39:51] answer any of your questions and you [39:53] want this to be like 5 [39:55] minutes [39:56] oh well okay yeah yeah quick okay so [40:02] the my grandfather always told me to be [40:04] brief and be [40:06] seated U all right so this we're talking [40:09] about rehabbing 26 uh units all of them [40:12] in Hamilton Hill all of them currently [40:15] substandard uh along the streets um Page [40:19] Street Germania and SKC Street and in um [40:23] all of them are in the city households [40:25] to be served to find us houss with [40:26] incomes of 80% of area medium [40:30] income so um what here's how I'm going [40:34] to go through this I'm going to tell you [40:36] what's happened so far and then where [40:38] it's headed and then I'll answer your [40:41] questions um thus far um BC and I had uh [40:45] about a $200,000 Grant from the [40:47] Enterprise Foundation to all the to do [40:49] all the prep work which is required to [40:51] get the big state money to come in to [40:53] round the whole project out um um I I've [40:57] worked with most of you on stuff before [41:00] but not all of you so um you know as [41:04] general context I would say what this [41:08] starts with the federal government what [41:09] the federal government set as guidelines [41:12] and rules for funding affordable housing [41:15] is incredibly complicated um and it [41:17] takes a long time so all of that is [41:19] within that context so so far um on [41:23] those uh properties um with the [41:27] Enterprise funds the site control has [41:29] been achieved integrated pH physical [41:32] needs assessment has been done by it [41:35] looks like K building Consultants the [41:37] environmental review was done by CT mail [41:40] the is bestos Leed and radon testing was [41:43] done by CT mail the certified property [41:45] surveys was done by L cilene Associates [41:48] the schematic design drawings were done [41:50] by Troy architecture practice the shipo [41:53] the historic preservation review um was [41:56] done um the zoning analysis was done um [42:00] and variances were granted bcni did that [42:03] the market study analysis and property [42:05] appraisals um the new market valuation [42:07] Consultants that that that has been done [42:09] by them the construction cost estimates [42:11] were done by Christa the identification [42:13] of the financing partner will be [42:15] Community preservation corporations BC [42:17] and I did that [42:20] um [42:22] um you know there are a couple different [42:24] I'm a path to Victory guy and so you [42:26] always have to figure out what pots of [42:29] money does the state have and how are [42:31] they going to do it I think we're this [42:32] is going to track towards home ownership [42:35] opportunity for most of the units um [42:38] I'll talk more about that in a [42:40] minute [42:42] um all right so then the rest of this is [42:44] now is [42:46] all that's the key stuff that you need [42:48] to know so the the funding secured to [42:51] date um the Enterprise funds I mentioned [42:54] is $194,000 $960 was that Grant with [42:58] possibility for more Community Loan Fund [43:01] of $84,200 the arpa friends from the [43:04] city um Congressman Taco has uh advanced [43:10] $750,000 in in um Congressional funds [43:14] pending a um actual federal [43:20] budget um and um all right now I don't [43:23] need my notes anymore I can talk from [43:27] here so from this point forward [43:31] um the local foundations have come in [43:34] we've have we have two offers from local [43:37] foundations one of them for home [43:39] ownership this is a softer one that [43:41] would be north north of a half a million [43:43] dollars another one a harder one which [43:45] would be a seven figure Grant if we used [43:50] all of the units to [43:51] place um single mothers who [43:56] with children who needed somewhere to go [43:59] so this means we have you know this is [44:02] kind of when you think back to how we [44:03] got Boys and Girls Club done and uh [44:06] Bethesda house funded it was City County [44:09] working together with local foundations [44:11] to identify a need get the right not for [44:13] profit involved then allocate our [44:15] resources strategically the state loves [44:17] that they come in the state has said to [44:19] us at this point we like the basis of [44:23] this and um a lot of you have worked [44:25] with Darren Scott who's the regional [44:27] director of HCR for this part of the [44:30] state he has said he's going to come and [44:32] sit down and plot out which of the state [44:35] pots is most ripe for this so um I think [44:40] I should stop it's a lot of talking for [44:42] me so I'll stop talking and answer your [44:44] questions but I think where we are at [44:46] this point is a lot of this Spade workor [44:49] I read that whole boring list because [44:50] it's all the stuff that um people in the [44:53] public don't see but it's the [44:54] prerequisite for the state to come in [44:56] we've got all that done we have um the [44:59] various different pots of local money [45:01] lined up and the state is now saying [45:04] yeah we like the trajectory this is [45:06] going on we'll sit down and figure out [45:08] um how you know which path to go down [45:11] they have to rank and score them but if [45:13] you think back to um the Craig Street [45:16] project Hillside view um Mosaic which [45:20] got funded in Mount Pleasant last year [45:22] Bethesda house all those went through [45:25] one or two applications and I think on [45:28] um Hillside view it was actually the [45:30] fourth time it was funded so I think [45:32] where we are is the worst thing that can [45:34] happen here is that maybe the state says [45:38] apply here we apply once they don't fund [45:40] it but they say here's what you do to [45:42] get the points to get it over the Finish [45:44] Line um all [45:47] right it's a lot of minutia for me so [45:50] I'll be quiet and answer your questions [45:52] so what is your shortfall on funding for [45:54] the project what is the overall cost of [45:55] the project and what is the um what's [45:58] the Gap in funding you know it's an [45:59] affordable housing project so that [46:02] number always moves [46:04] around we're probably going to ask the [46:06] state in the neighborhood of5 or $6 [46:09] million I would [46:11] say for the total project for the state [46:15] so I think total would be between eight [46:16] and nine [46:18] okay but I'm I'm doing I'm doing [46:20] estimates because I mean when you do [46:22] these affordable housing things until [46:23] the [46:24] closing [46:26] there's no number [46:28] okay so when would you know about the [46:30] state [46:34] funding um it depends what route would [46:36] they go they have their own big [46:39] um RFP they're getting ready to put out [46:42] with with what they're calling home arpa [46:44] money I actually think that's what they [46:46] hired Kristen de to write and they're [46:50] like more than 6 months behind schedule [46:53] on issuing it so um um I you know they [46:59] they the funding Cycles take six to n [47:02] months they generally [47:04] do [47:05] okay and so I think part of the other [47:08] thing is you're asking for an [47:09] extension yeah I think yeah go ahead so [47:13] so how long is the extension [47:17] request sure I hear that's for a year [47:20] all right so then what I would what [47:24] request is for a year and then we work [47:26] with Brian Lawler who was the state [47:27] housing commissioner and did for 30 [47:29] years the closings for the state on [47:31] these things um he's an expert on all of [47:34] the rules so we would ask Brian to sit [47:37] with um whoever you wanted him to sit [47:39] with to make sure all the rules were [47:41] followed and you know what I mean [47:42] because you've got on the arpa funding [47:44] you've got your set of rules from the [47:47] treasur treasury has their set of rules [47:49] yeah yeah yeah so I do I do think that [47:52] with [47:54] um your staff involvement and Brian's [47:57] involvement Bri very good at making sure [48:00] the rules are followed So within a year [48:03] we we'd have a path the state [48:05] would have it on a path so funing path [48:09] that satisfied the rules well the rules [48:11] are that it has to be allocated by the [48:12] end of 2024 and then spent by the end of [48:15] I'm confident we can figure that out [48:18] other questions Mr Mr Williams Mr [48:21] Williams to the C okay um so you would [48:25] mind clar you said at one point that [48:27] there were two different directions the [48:28] project could go in one being home [48:30] ownership and the other one single uh [48:31] single mother households is that a [48:33] decision that bcni has come to or are [48:36] you still evaluating the funds that [48:38] you're going to receive and does that [48:39] affect the project [48:43] scope that will have to a lot to do with [48:46] the timing of what the state [48:48] says they have funds available for sort [48:51] of first second third and [48:53] fourth I think that from my seat as [48:57] president of the board of bcni and my [48:58] seat at the foundation I think we have [49:00] critical mass to do both over the next [49:04] couple of years it's a matter of which [49:06] funding path presents itself first we [49:09] have a we have a need for both we have [49:12] some government funding set up for both [49:14] we have strong commitments from local [49:16] foundations for both the another one of [49:20] the tricks of these affordable housing [49:22] projects is that um smaller is harder to [49:26] do if you do 10 units it's harder to do [49:28] than 60 units so we're talking about 26 [49:32] units here you know one thing we could [49:33] do is break it and do you know 15 of one [49:37] and 11 of another but that actually [49:40] makes it harder to fund so we have to [49:42] flesh that out with a state um does that [49:45] answer your question absolutely yeah CU [49:47] it's not it's not there's not um Clear [49:49] Cut Black or [49:51] White on some of the stuff so I will do [49:54] the best I can to give you a correct [49:57] answer yes and like with previous [50:00] requests that we've had um in terms of [50:02] the state funding and the point system [50:04] that that Grant would go through is it [50:07] your opinion that um obviously what we [50:10] do here would help in terms of the [50:12] points that you might need to approve [50:13] from that state yeah I think I think [50:16] there's two answers to that you know [50:18] this is what we learned from the library [50:20] branches from Boys and Girls Club from [50:22] Bethesda house from bunch of the other [50:24] projects they do have SC 0 to 100 they [50:27] they give you points if you have um [50:32] Foundation funny if you have City money [50:33] if you have County money all of that [50:35] counts but they also like it better they [50:38] they you know I think what's motivating [50:41] State officials to say we're going to [50:42] come meet with you and figure out how to [50:43] get this done as they see that skincity [50:45] has started to be really successful at [50:47] this Formula One and they see it coming [50:50] together here and then you know once [50:53] they do that they help you choose the [50:55] path that's most likely to succeed which [50:57] is why I feel comfortable that the worst [50:59] thing that will happen is maybe the [51:02] first application goes in uh like with [51:04] Bethesda house and they came back and [51:06] said we're not funding it this year but [51:08] you're close and here's what we want you [51:10] know if you do one two and three you'll [51:12] get it over the Finish Line um and Kim [51:15] Shepard and her team did a great job of [51:16] doing [51:18] that [51:19] mayor thank you uh again this project in [51:24] the Y W you know are getting some State [51:28] attention they good projects uh our [51:31] rapport with those agencies is very good [51:36] you know the team that's here has uh [51:40] good connections good track record and [51:43] so I would recommend that some extension [51:47] be given in this funding scenario it one [51:52] of these things that puts us under [51:53] pressure to get them done but at the [51:55] same time pointed [51:58] out we're not just uh going into a [52:02] vacuum and the state weighs other [52:05] projects across the [52:07] state uh I think we're in a position to [52:10] score very high uh in this in the things [52:13] that we've done laning up to uh this [52:17] application of this process where we've [52:19] Consolidated uh two groups brought [52:22] together under bcni it's the one [52:26] uh time it's been done in the [52:28] State uh the governor the legislature [52:31] keeps talking about doing housing [52:33] initiatives so there's some of the money [52:35] that's on the table now and in the [52:38] pipeline and there's going to be [52:41] something in the next Governor's budget [52:44] one way or the other I don't have any [52:47] inclination what that is but we want to [52:49] be positioned to Advocate and follow up [52:53] on any opportunity that exists there so [52:56] it's somewhat of a again a dynamic [52:59] process but I think we're in Fairly good [53:01] shape for a number of things that we're [53:04] doing here and our track record of doing [53:07] things in the past of actually being [53:09] able to implement get things built get [53:11] the construction done get the uh [53:14] buildings open and get people moved into [53:16] them I think the YWCA project that's [53:19] been in three times but I think it's not [53:22] a path to get funded now yes yeah [53:25] I do have one one other tiny question um [53:28] has the county contributed any money to [53:30] um the project you mentioned so I've [53:33] been in Asia for two weeks I'm fresh off [53:36] the plane which is not a good use of the [53:37] word fresh um I can't remember off the [53:40] top of my head but Metroplex is going to [53:42] come they're going to now that the [53:43] state's coming they're going to come and [53:44] figure out what what they have to do to [53:46] help get it over the Finish [53:48] Line um but does I can't do County have [53:52] any money in yet no no thank but we'll [53:56] they'll figure it out they'll be part of [53:57] the solution thank Madam [54:00] president the other feature of this in [54:02] terms of the bigger impact is we've done [54:06] projects of doing one where it's you [54:08] know it's one building that's one site [54:10] this is a number of houses throughout [54:14] the neighborhood that it's a little bit [54:16] more complicated to put it all together [54:18] but the impact is going to be far [54:21] greater in the overall transition and [54:24] visual aspect that's going to happen [54:27] within that's complet that's completely [54:29] correct I know he brought some visuals [54:31] off if you want oh you want to put up [54:33] yeah this is sort of what the what the [54:35] um all the prep work has yielded that's [54:38] absolutely that's that's correct and and [54:40] just to to pick up on the mayor's point [54:43] you know most [54:44] cities this is New York state right and [54:46] we have Brooklyn in it we have the Bronx [54:49] in Buffalo and most good [54:53] most most cities of affordable housing [54:55] is all about apartment buildings and [54:57] most of the programs are designed for [55:00] that kind of construction but for our [55:02] city it's very much about single and two [55:05] family homes and and taking fixing up [55:07] these houses that have been vacated or [55:10] left empty and so it does take a little [55:12] longer to put the financing together [55:13] that is part of it but we but the state [55:16] recognizes that they're committed to it [55:17] we will figure it out so here's a [55:20] cluster here on Germania there's a [55:22] cluster on uh SK Street and cluster on [55:26] on page okay so this isn't all of them [55:29] this is just sampling this is the [55:31] sampling the pictures are just a sampl [55:32] this just a sampling of the vacant so [55:34] the VAC most of them are two family [55:36] houses most them are two families just [55:38] one single family I kind of like that [55:40] for home ownership opportunity for [55:42] first-time home buyers because if they [55:44] then the person who buys the house as a [55:47] firsttime home buyer that is someone who [55:50] is for the maybe the first time in [55:53] Generations creating an opportunity for [55:56] the family to generate savings and [55:58] wealth that can be passed on but if it's [56:00] a two family home and we do it right the [56:02] income they get from the other unit [56:03] significantly helps make sure that they [56:05] can keep that mortgage those mortgage [56:07] payments coming and stick through it see [56:09] it all the way through and would have [56:11] impact that's another unique feature of [56:13] this yeah so that's I mean right now I [56:16] I'm kind of cheering for the home [56:18] ownership opportunities for this if the [56:19] state can do it fast enough because of [56:22] what I just said so that's that is I do [56:25] have that question are you planning on [56:27] keeping any of those properties and then [56:29] renting them to people and bcni [56:31] remaining the owner proper I mean if if [56:36] if if we go the home ownership route for [56:38] these properties no if we go the route [56:42] of um of developing them so that they [56:46] are rented and they are rented for [56:48] targeted population like for example [56:50] single mothers who need a place to go [56:52] those would be rentals that would DC and [56:53] I would manage and and they would have [56:55] like a u like the isshi program would [56:58] come in and fund some of that and there [56:59] would be an agreement with scap to [57:01] provide the services um and the and the [57:03] isshi money would would pay for [57:05] something like 65 75% of the [57:08] rent so um two paths okay all right Mr [57:14] Farley so I guess I'm pretty excited [57:18] about the ownership path like I'm I'm [57:20] sure that that's probably a little more [57:22] complicated um from what I'm got what [57:25] you're saying but I definitely think [57:26] that that that would be something that I [57:28] I would be more excited about as far as [57:30] Community impact um I know the federal [57:32] guidelines for like U uh lowincome [57:36] housing or is a bit dated um and I'm [57:39] just wondering is this is the state [57:42] guidelines the same as the federal [57:43] guidelines and how much autonomy do you [57:46] have in that as far as that process like [57:48] I know that they have been [57:50] um I don't know when the last time they [57:52] were updated but last I looked it was it [57:53] was it didn't seem like it was really uh [57:56] in line with [57:58] um kind of today's world numbers I think [58:01] you always have to follow the federal [58:02] guidelines you guys agree yeah Federal [58:04] ground trunk the states if the states [58:06] want to do something so I think that [58:09] yeah I think the federal ground you have [58:10] to follow they probably are out of date [58:13] even though my official position is our [58:14] colleagues at the federal government are [58:16] great Americans and I support [58:18] them um it really comes into play when [58:21] you rent cuz then the rents have to be [58:23] set according to all those rules um when [58:27] you do home ownership it's less of an [58:29] issue uh because you're qualifying [58:32] people for mortgages and helping them [58:34] get down payment assistance and then [58:35] getting them into the home and then [58:37] their payment is based on the mortgage [58:39] um very often those mortgage payments [58:41] come out to be less than the rents do um [58:44] so I agree with you if we can figure out [58:47] how to make the home ownership [58:49] work that on this that would be great [58:51] but if we don't on this one we'll figure [58:53] it out on the next one it that that's [58:55] coming the the the feds have set that as [58:58] a policy priority it's showing up in a [59:00] lot of the grant programs where you get [59:01] extra points to do it um so we'll see [59:04] when the state comes if they say yeah [59:06] yeah you've got this this this the three [59:08] pots you can go for the incentives are [59:10] there for home ownership do it they'll [59:11] they'll help us figure out and how to [59:14] get it done and you know I hope we're [59:16] getting to a point where um the mayor [59:19] referenced the YWCA project you know I [59:21] feel like that may be the turning point [59:24] where we get to [59:25] where're connecti is now at a point [59:27] where we know we can make these things [59:29] happen even if it takes a few years we [59:31] have to be patient and persistent and [59:32] push through it sometimes people get mad [59:35] there are tempered TS and you know but [59:37] um we get we get around the corner where [59:39] we know what projects we want to do and [59:41] it's just a matter of figuring out which [59:43] one goes first second and third the [59:44] state helps us make sure it happens and [59:46] we're we're our track records pretty [59:48] good I mean we won Elmer Avenue we won [59:50] Mosaic recently they came back with a [59:52] good plan on the YWCA this scap campus [59:55] looks like it's on a good track State's [59:57] coming back and saying they like the [59:58] direction this is going so I think we [1:00:00] can feel good about it one question yes [1:00:04] so um too long I'm sorry um it's good [1:00:07] information I'm so I guess my question [1:00:10] would be is how much of what are some of [1:00:12] the other I mean I'm sure it depends on [1:00:14] which path you you know would go down [1:00:18] but could you share like some of the [1:00:19] other considerations being made as far [1:00:21] as like outside of income um who would [1:00:25] be uh would be your targeted population [1:00:28] um and I'm asking that question just for [1:00:30] clarity around like um are we looking at [1:00:34] um what are some of the other factors [1:00:36] that are are kind of calculations that [1:00:38] are made to see like who's who Le this [1:00:40] type of housing would be accessible to [1:00:42] yeah I mean the plain reality is [1:00:44] unfortunately we have to react to what [1:00:49] the funding streams tell us to do so [1:00:53] when we do things like like Elmer Avenue [1:00:55] or Renaissance square or mosaic um those [1:00:58] projects are all tax credit projects and [1:01:01] tax credit projects by law have to be [1:01:03] rentals period and a discussion we don't [1:01:06] have any choice and so if you're going [1:01:08] to do a you know conversion of a of a [1:01:11] white elephant old school that's empty [1:01:13] and it's going to be 60 units you're [1:01:14] kind of stuck with tax credits there you [1:01:16] are um that's a so that's a reason why I [1:01:21] kind of agree with you if we could go [1:01:22] down the home ownership path here that [1:01:24] would be great because this is an [1:01:25] opportunity to do that and we're not [1:01:26] doing a tax credit project that [1:01:28] prohibits it um in the ca you know we [1:01:32] have groups like young parents United [1:01:36] tesda house they tell us that we have a [1:01:39] demographic need to deal with homeless [1:01:41] on a bunch of levels and so we do our [1:01:45] best to try to get that I mean you know [1:01:48] um the bethesa house project [1:01:50] took four four years in you know it's [1:01:55] probably longer than it should take but [1:01:57] we got it other communities didn't get [1:01:59] it and and did it because Bethesda house [1:02:03] needed to double their capacity to House [1:02:06] people coming out of the homeless sector [1:02:07] so I think you know I think for the root [1:02:09] for the um young families that need [1:02:12] somewhere to go we know we have that [1:02:13] need and we will figure out one way or [1:02:15] another how to do it and we have um [1:02:17] already a couple of State commitments [1:02:19] for isi to do that and we have a local [1:02:21] Foundation ready to do that and the [1:02:22] state has already said okay then [1:02:24] that's that's the connected formula for [1:02:26] Success we will help you figure it out [1:02:29] I'm I'm sorry to your time just I have [1:02:32] one other question uh so regarding the [1:02:35] the projects that you're doing um [1:02:36] assuming part of this will be doing the [1:02:38] sidewalks that are around these [1:02:39] properties or um I I think in she's [1:02:45] asking whether the sidewalks are [1:02:47] included in the funding for this and I [1:02:49] don't know I'm going to turn to the [1:02:50] staff off the top of my head I believe [1:02:53] they are but I I can't be 100% sure but [1:02:55] I do believe that that was part of that [1:02:58] okay when we did the last things uh when [1:03:01] we did the surgy project we did all the [1:03:04] sidewalks as well so I do believe that's [1:03:07] that's part of it but I can certainly [1:03:10] get back to you specifics if you like [1:03:12] yes I would thank you [1:03:15] pleas more questions um if you could [1:03:19] though just all the information that you [1:03:20] gave us today in terms of the funding [1:03:22] Etc if you could provide that to us in [1:03:23] writing so that the entire all right so [1:03:26] I think Alex has like a 40 page thing [1:03:28] that's shows all the um the boring stuff [1:03:31] that was done and then we can get you a [1:03:32] summary too yes unless people want to 40 [1:03:36] page you can you know if you have [1:03:37] insomia it's a great C thank you for [1:03:50] coming our second presentation is the [1:03:53] Coco house we have the executive [1:03:55] director real bz with us the COC house [1:03:59] previously um submitted an amendment [1:04:01] that included a change in the use of [1:04:03] funding so today he will be presenting [1:04:06] um and providing Clarity to the Council [1:04:08] on the use of fund [1:04:10] change thank [1:04:22] you to take one pass down [1:04:25] you you're welcome do you need [1:04:34] this all right I'll take one just in [1:04:36] case okay fair enough thank you you're [1:04:38] welcome pretty [1:04:47] sure okay thank [1:04:50] you hello thank you guys uh my name is [1:04:53] William Reas um executive director of [1:04:54] coc house what you have in your hand is [1:04:56] a brief presentation on the uh ARA [1:04:59] project um the beginning um only we [1:05:02] submitted uh the purpose was we were [1:05:04] looking to get the funding so that we [1:05:06] could uh complete the purchase of exra [1:05:09] property so that we could expand program [1:05:11] um in that time uh what we were able to [1:05:14] do with the help of uh the Metroplex [1:05:17] community landbank and R fund and some [1:05:19] other supporters we were actually able [1:05:21] to raise the money to complete uh the [1:05:24] funding needed to execute our program um [1:05:26] our project so as of right now uh the [1:05:29] new C house team Empowerment Center 867 [1:05:31] sing Street my old childhood home um is [1:05:34] due to be completed on October 30th of [1:05:37] this year um interesting enough uh you [1:05:41] stop right there um is that [1:05:44] tomorrow couple [1:05:47] weeks October [1:05:49] 30 yes so um you should get ready to be [1:05:53] there during this project what we've [1:05:55] learned is uh in the very beginning I [1:05:57] had really lofty goals my goal was to [1:05:59] raise [1:06:01] $250,000 and put it in the hands of the [1:06:03] community um through local contractors [1:06:06] who would hire local workers and they [1:06:08] would train uh local youth you know that [1:06:10] was my goal my the intent being um to [1:06:13] make sure that the funding for the [1:06:15] project was going back directly to the [1:06:17] community and we did that you know we we [1:06:20] tried to go that route and it was uh a [1:06:22] task um I like to think that throughout [1:06:25] this process I learned a lot about uh [1:06:28] development contracts and a lot of stuff [1:06:31] I just really had no clue about um we've [1:06:33] gone through two contractors we're our [1:06:36] third contractor right now uh NPR [1:06:39] locally um and as of right now the front [1:06:41] porch and the back porch has have been [1:06:43] completed and inspected they both passed [1:06:45] um as of right now um and you can kind [1:06:48] of scroll down um these are the plans [1:06:51] the original plans for the project uh [1:06:54] so 20 years ago Rachel had an idea of [1:06:58] connecting both houses when I took over [1:06:59] Copa house uh 5 years ago I I looked at [1:07:02] that and understood that that was going [1:07:04] to be quite the task so what we did was [1:07:06] we decided to next slide morce please uh [1:07:09] to connect them through the porch um the [1:07:11] reason why I thought this was a good [1:07:13] idea was um in understanding what that [1:07:17] neighborhood used to be um specifically [1:07:20] my house [1:07:22] um I wanted to build something that [1:07:24] would last uh for the Youth in the [1:07:26] community and would serve as an [1:07:28] inspiration to the kid to attend uh [1:07:31] Martin Luther King school and just youth [1:07:33] who live in our community um you can go [1:07:35] to next slide [1:07:37] please uh the next few slides are [1:07:39] pictures of the process and where we're [1:07:41] at so that first slide you'll see is the [1:07:43] very beginning 5 years ago uh those [1:07:45] young men in blue shirts those are seats [1:07:47] out so keeping up with the theme that [1:07:49] from the very beginning my intent was to [1:07:51] take this money raise and put it [1:07:54] directly back into the hands of the [1:07:55] community in training and funding and in [1:07:58] jobs uh that second slide you see Union [1:08:01] college students uh here you see Brian [1:08:03] from the seat Center again as we're [1:08:05] going through this process there were [1:08:08] three breaks in the project that really [1:08:11] were out of our hands one being co uh [1:08:14] which you know there was really nothing [1:08:15] we could do um we did have to let go of [1:08:20] a contractor because the work wasn't up [1:08:22] the par and in that process we brought [1:08:24] on this great group um who as you can [1:08:27] see the transition from the third and [1:08:29] fourth slides you can see the project [1:08:32] took shape literally overnight um all [1:08:34] the siding was gone all the roofing was [1:08:36] gone all brand new shingles and as of [1:08:39] right now this last slide you'll see [1:08:41] this is the brand new porch and this is [1:08:43] the inside as of this time last week the [1:08:46] insulation is up right now the sheet [1:08:48] rock is inside and the walls are ready [1:08:50] to go up we have all the plumbing [1:08:51] purchased um the group that that we have [1:08:54] now working with NPR they actually work [1:08:56] six six days they work Monday through [1:08:59] Saturday rafie and his team are [1:09:00] absolutely amazing um the request came [1:09:04] for us to Pivot for the arpa because [1:09:08] what I realized throughout this project [1:09:09] was it's been 25 years and coko house [1:09:11] never had a full-time staff coko house [1:09:14] has survived solely for 25 years off of [1:09:17] volunteers so what I thought about um [1:09:20] this time last year that's my wife with [1:09:22] the kids was that we have this great big [1:09:25] project and it's going to get done and [1:09:28] we're going to have this program space [1:09:29] but we need staff we need people from [1:09:32] the community to hire to work with these [1:09:34] youths people that we can train and that [1:09:36] we can pay pay adequately um because [1:09:38] again the pivot with the article was [1:09:41] that we raised the money for the [1:09:42] building and but we're still putting [1:09:44] money back into the community uh the [1:09:46] money the pivot for us is really is [1:09:48] taking this money and hiring uh local [1:09:50] families um because what we're also [1:09:52] doing which I I took a lot of stuff [1:09:55] context out the slide is uh what's also [1:09:57] going to be in this program is we're [1:09:59] building the first Broadview financial [1:10:01] literacy Center in the Hamilton Hill so [1:10:05] Broad View we have a partnership with [1:10:07] them in which they're going to provide [1:10:08] financially literacy classes to the [1:10:10] community to families and youth as well [1:10:13] um because we believe it's uh important [1:10:15] to have a financial institution like [1:10:17] Broadview to invest long-term education [1:10:20] financial literacy courses and [1:10:22] opportunities for people that in our [1:10:24] community uh why amend a contract we've [1:10:26] already raised the money needed to [1:10:28] complete a 67 projects 60,000 from the [1:10:30] city of SKC thank you guys uh C for the [1:10:33] cdbg 60,000 from Metroplex 50,000 from [1:10:36] Community landbank 25,000 from Amber [1:10:38] mother fund uh and we are due to be [1:10:41] completed like I said at the end of the [1:10:42] month grand opening of the first week of [1:10:45] November we have raised the money to [1:10:47] complete the community Green Space [1:10:48] Project Union College student jesselin [1:10:50] was awarded 9,000 for the project in [1:10:52] 2022 that is due to be completed first [1:10:55] week of November as well uh we have [1:10:57] currently met with and there is an [1:10:59] agreement in place for the purchases of [1:11:01] 28 Sten in place for them to donate it [1:11:04] to Coco house should the purchase go [1:11:06] through at which time we will demolish [1:11:08] the property and add it to our community [1:11:10] Green Space on the corner and we have [1:11:11] already have a letter of intent that's [1:11:13] been approved and agreed upon with the [1:11:15] SKC Foundation uh should 28 St Bend be [1:11:18] secure and given it to C house we have [1:11:20] the money in place for the demolition at [1:11:23] this time biggest need for the expansion [1:11:25] of the program and the services we [1:11:26] provide and want to continue to provide [1:11:28] our staff to be on site and available to [1:11:30] the youth and the families we serve on a [1:11:32] regular basis um the reason being is for [1:11:36] 20 years we have served younger kids we [1:11:39] have served a younger generation and [1:11:41] with the expansion uh we're going to be [1:11:43] working into uh larger population uh [1:11:46] families older youth teens and we want [1:11:49] to make sure that we have services on [1:11:51] site readily available uh for the [1:11:54] people that we're going be working with [1:11:55] to have access to on a regular basis so [1:11:58] uh what does this look like um increase [1:12:00] in wages from so for 2023 we'll spend [1:12:03] $30,000 in wages um we're looking to [1:12:06] increase that to [1:12:07] $200,000 $70,000 for a full-time [1:12:10] executive director 50,000 for a [1:12:12] part-time director 30,000 for a program [1:12:14] assistant and 50,000 for program staff [1:12:17] up to 2 and three part-time staff [1:12:19] currently uh $30,000 in wages 15,000 in [1:12:23] occup cost 5,000 program and direct cost [1:12:26] $220,000 in administrative expenses uh [1:12:30] we get a lot of support from the [1:12:31] community Union College is really great [1:12:33] about helping us out with supplies food [1:12:35] and stuff for the program um throughout [1:12:37] the week um during the summertime we [1:12:39] have to raise the money to make sure we [1:12:41] ensure that um here's a nice long thank [1:12:43] you list um of everyone who's really [1:12:46] been a part of this project for the last [1:12:48] 5 years since I've been a part of it and [1:12:50] uh again we would not be where we are at [1:12:53] this point Point um at a point of [1:12:55] completion and grand opening and uh you [1:12:58] know I'm thankful to say that this is [1:13:01] actually going to get done and I'm glad [1:13:03] that you guys are all a part of it thank [1:13:05] you well questions well first of all let [1:13:09] me just commend you on the work that [1:13:10] you've completed it's pretty substantial [1:13:12] and admirable and so I know you sent me [1:13:14] one picture but there's a lot more [1:13:16] that's been done since then so I I want [1:13:18] to just say cl to you and everyone that [1:13:20] works with you to get this done and um [1:13:22] get it to this point so thank you for [1:13:25] that and morce if you could go back to [1:13:26] the next slide CU I um I do have some [1:13:29] questions right there all right so [1:13:32] currently the 30,000 wages um I [1:13:35] understand what is the 20,000 [1:13:37] administrative expenses could you [1:13:38] explain with that deal is yeah uh we [1:13:41] have uh services that we utilize lawyer [1:13:45] uh [1:13:46] training um insurance is cost like that [1:13:49] oh okay okay and so [1:13:54] your your initial ask from from us was [1:13:57] from city council was I believe the [1:13:59] original ask was 1.5 million over 5 [1:14:02] years um and that it was adapted to [1:14:05] 500,000 so you've lowered the request is [1:14:08] that what you say no I didn't lower the [1:14:10] quest it was when it was sent to us it [1:14:12] was lower oh okay okay so 5,000 was what [1:14:14] we allocated gotcha okay and so you're [1:14:17] asking us to [1:14:19] do could you break it down over the [1:14:21] years yes so the way we looked at it is [1:14:24] uh larger amount the first year and [1:14:26] gradually scale off 200,000 200,000 [1:14:29] 100,000 uh the third year um the reason [1:14:32] being with our growing capacity what we [1:14:34] found is we have access to more grants [1:14:36] and stuff outside the C because we're [1:14:38] offering more program um what's really [1:14:41] been great about this process is uh we [1:14:43] found a way to sustain our program and [1:14:45] grow it without stepping on the toes of [1:14:47] any other the other programs of what [1:14:49] they're doing we found ways to [1:14:50] collaborate partner um and find find [1:14:54] Space where we can all being part of [1:14:56] this connected youth Coalition being [1:14:57] part of the 22 youth organizations we're [1:15:00] supporting each other so we're not [1:15:02] recreating program that's going to take [1:15:03] away from other programs what we're [1:15:05] finding is that we're all sustaining by [1:15:07] we're serving the same same families and [1:15:09] same kids but there are still some [1:15:11] things that we can do differently and [1:15:13] ways that we can work together so by [1:15:15] stepping to this Niche working with the [1:15:16] older kids um we're fting is there's a [1:15:19] generation of Youth who just for some [1:15:20] reason um they just you know as many as [1:15:23] we have they tend to not come sometimes [1:15:26] it's it's mental health sometimes it's [1:15:27] sub sometimes it's just for decision [1:15:29] making so we have found a space where we [1:15:32] can uh work with everyone to provide the [1:15:34] best service [1:15:36] possible thank you yes ma'am [1:15:39] um go go Miss pck okay yeah sure so [1:15:44] first I want to Echo um uh president [1:15:46] Porterfield uh uh congratulatory words [1:15:50] around what you've been able to [1:15:51] accomplish thus far um I really would [1:15:54] like to see more nonprofits not only um [1:15:57] you know make that type of investment to [1:16:00] serve youth but then when you when you [1:16:02] kind of compound the fact that you're [1:16:04] making an investment back into the [1:16:06] community um that's something that I [1:16:08] wish a lot more nonprofits had that did [1:16:10] that model um so I just want to say [1:16:11] that's really important as far as it [1:16:13] speaks of sustainability um and if I'm [1:16:16] understanding correctly it's like um [1:16:18] this will not only help you serve the [1:16:20] youth that you serve now but you be able [1:16:23] to kind of expand upon that and also [1:16:26] that you know influx of resources what [1:16:28] because I'm sure as being a executive [1:16:31] director you're doing a lot of different [1:16:33] things um a lot of you know so you're [1:16:36] saying it's parttime but we all know we [1:16:38] work with you we know it's full-time [1:16:39] right so um I so I imagine that you you [1:16:43] could see that expanding your ability to [1:16:46] um go after more funding right Your [1:16:49] Capacity to do so so even within this [1:16:51] it's not you know there's some [1:16:52] sustainability to that with things up [1:16:54] okay I just want to be clear about that [1:16:55] that's that was the goal long term um we [1:16:58] planned this was to what we found was [1:17:01] with the UN with um Coco house we have [1:17:04] kids who age out and sixth seventh grade [1:17:07] and then you know boys and girls plus [1:17:09] phal I think the great thing about sa [1:17:11] connected we don't La for resources but [1:17:14] we always find those kids who find [1:17:16] themselves kind of in between so what we [1:17:18] thought about in this process was well [1:17:19] what if we can create uh job [1:17:21] sustainability long term we can take [1:17:23] some of these kids we can put them in a [1:17:25] team program we can educate them on how [1:17:27] to work with the younger kids and again [1:17:29] you know we have the summer youth [1:17:30] program we have all these different [1:17:32] programs that we have the ability to [1:17:33] work with let's create more [1:17:35] opportunities for youth like myself [1:17:37] because again without r a gram I'm not [1:17:40] the executive director of C- so if we [1:17:42] can take more use and more opportunities [1:17:44] and more intentional investment long [1:17:46] term we can create more opportunities to [1:17:48] get some of these kids off these corners [1:17:50] and do some phenomenal things in these [1:17:52] programs because they can reach their [1:17:54] friends better than we [1:17:56] can you have question I do so this [1:17:59] obviously the the um rer funding from [1:18:02] the city is completely about Staffing [1:18:05] and Sals so what will be your capacity [1:18:09] around um you know the programs I mean [1:18:12] in terms of uh no I'm I'm glad you asked [1:18:15] so right now uh with just volunteers my [1:18:18] wife who's sitting on the hallway um [1:18:20] prior to co we were operating at full [1:18:22] capacity 35 you a day prior to co once [1:18:26] Co hit uh of course we had numbers had [1:18:28] to drop and then after that um you know [1:18:31] the school district opened up their [1:18:33] after school program again which kinds [1:18:35] of change the dynamic and again we're [1:18:37] not in competition for to serve the [1:18:39] Youth of our community we're looking to [1:18:41] come across and work with each other so [1:18:43] uh we partner with the school district [1:18:44] and we find local families who are in [1:18:46] need of you know so this with the team [1:18:48] program opening up the way we have it [1:18:50] set up we have the capacity to take on [1:18:52] another 30 35 you per day [1:18:55] and um so do you find that the 30 to 35 [1:18:59] students per day are um consistent the [1:19:02] same students or are you [1:19:04] seeing no it's it's changed right now [1:19:06] that we just opened up uh first day was [1:19:09] today and I think we had uh I believe [1:19:11] our numbers were 10 but this is our [1:19:13] first day opening up and again the [1:19:14] school district is running they have [1:19:16] school B 5 days a week so you know we're [1:19:18] not looking to really compete with them [1:19:20] but we're looking to create a a [1:19:23] situation to reach those hard to reach [1:19:25] youth specifically um because we really [1:19:28] feel like that's where we can do the [1:19:30] most good um anybody that that wants to [1:19:33] come to cop house of course is welcome [1:19:34] and that's really where this uh [1:19:37] situation was driven from is because we [1:19:39] had youth coming back seventh and eighth [1:19:41] grade and they had no program to go to [1:19:43] because they got kicked out and it's not [1:19:45] because they're bad kids but maybe the [1:19:47] people at the program didn't understand [1:19:48] how to deal with them we've been working [1:19:50] with them for four or 5 years now what [1:19:52] do we do do we turn turn the youth away [1:19:53] no we intentionally create a space so [1:19:55] that they can come back because that [1:19:57] investment long term it keeps them out [1:19:59] of trouble and it keeps them engage in [1:20:01] the community work that we [1:20:02] do Mr to um MZ um the document you [1:20:06] submit to us with regards to this [1:20:08] amendment you are and looking at the [1:20:10] salary line you have $600,000 over 3 [1:20:13] years what are your plan to sustain it [1:20:16] into the fourth year what's our plan yes [1:20:19] okay so again as we expect it's cool I [1:20:21] was pray for that um as EX stand program [1:20:24] um what's been great is uh I I've gone [1:20:26] to a couple national conferences um the [1:20:30] geof funders was one in Chicago in which [1:20:32] we met national uh funders who there's [1:20:35] there's more money available and I think [1:20:36] a lot of that was kind of what moved our [1:20:40] Innovation right we found that there's a [1:20:42] lot of youth programs in the city of [1:20:44] skincity and we're kind of all going to [1:20:46] the connecting Foundation into the city [1:20:48] for the same money to serve really the [1:20:50] same kids which is not sustainable for [1:20:52] you guys it's not sustainable to the [1:20:53] concy foundation so in creating a a new [1:20:56] and Innovative program it allowed us to [1:20:58] start to tap into some uh the naal [1:21:01] National mentorship Alliance Mentor New [1:21:03] York in which you know and we have some [1:21:07] um funders uh that are kind of waiting [1:21:11] for uh this piece to get off the ground [1:21:14] so that was the big thing was is we had [1:21:16] some funders in place uh two years ago [1:21:19] but our timeline got pushed back because [1:21:21] the project kind of didn't sustain so [1:21:24] because of that we had to kind of um [1:21:26] pivot our approach and uh focus on [1:21:29] getting the project done before we could [1:21:30] start to ask some of our wealthy friends [1:21:32] for [1:21:33] money so so just a p so you mentioned [1:21:36] that their fundings out there yes and [1:21:39] you are T you're going to be tapping [1:21:40] into these agencies yes is it possible [1:21:42] that you can send us a list of the [1:21:44] agency that you are going to be working [1:21:45] with [1:21:50] in Mr Williams uh definitely again I [1:21:53] think it's I appreciate the presentation [1:21:55] and also the work that you're doing I [1:21:56] think it's safe to say that this project [1:21:58] and what you've been able to achieve so [1:22:00] far actually reflects the tant of what [1:22:03] our community is uh working together [1:22:05] more collaboratively and more [1:22:06] effectively so using and employing the [1:22:08] seat Center which made me smile and [1:22:10] tapping into Union College it's very [1:22:12] very um good to hear uh definitely I [1:22:15] think the sustainability is a strong [1:22:17] consideration the last thing we want to [1:22:19] do is fund positions that are then going [1:22:20] to be dissolved in the next year year or [1:22:22] two um uh my question resounded around [1:22:27] so if ever the ask came back to the city [1:22:29] do you have job descriptions just [1:22:30] clearly outlining what the duties of [1:22:32] each role are because any year working [1:22:34] we are absolutely working on those now U [1:22:37] the interesting thing about this in in [1:22:38] see down spread you kind of alluded to [1:22:40] this is it was the hardest thing to not [1:22:43] give a update on progress and not put [1:22:45] anything on social media because I felt [1:22:48] in all honesty I'm being honest I felt [1:22:50] like I had let everyone down because the [1:22:51] project I pushed back so many times um [1:22:54] we had a lofty goal and we had a [1:22:56] timeline set and when uh we came into [1:22:59] barrier after barrier it was frustra and [1:23:02] so what happened was is our Focus just [1:23:05] became strictly getting this building [1:23:07] done and then building everything else [1:23:10] kind of really around it and now we that [1:23:12] we have the right people in place we [1:23:14] have the timeline in front of us it's [1:23:15] allowed us to go back and focus on those [1:23:17] things which are incredibly important [1:23:19] because again to create sustainability [1:23:21] again like you know [1:23:23] talking about is we have to have those [1:23:25] things in place very clear dialogue very [1:23:27] clear program outlines um and I want to [1:23:30] flesh those out but my priority right [1:23:33] now is just getting this building done [1:23:34] because I just felt like so much was [1:23:36] riding on it thank you but I can send [1:23:39] them over to you it's not a problem [1:23:41] appreciate actually if you send m m [1:23:43] she'll make sure the en account for no [1:23:45] problem thank you Mr yes Mr Harley so I [1:23:48] so um just listening to kind of your [1:23:50] response to to Mr Williams I I think [1:23:52] that [1:23:53] um and kind of also to your point Mr [1:23:54] manian I think if I'm understanding it [1:23:57] correctly part of the the sustainability [1:23:59] is really growing Your Capacity to seek [1:24:02] funding cuz I think a lot of times we [1:24:03] have some of our smaller nonprofits that [1:24:05] make really really big impacts but [1:24:07] necessarily don't have like a [1:24:08] development office if you will right so [1:24:10] I so so so just you know as city council [1:24:13] we're we're moving to try to be more [1:24:15] Equitable in approach that we do things [1:24:16] including funding um so I think it was [1:24:18] just I just invited my council members [1:24:20] to consider that as well that part of [1:24:21] some of this is Su of the sustainability [1:24:23] plan is about giving um some of the [1:24:25] smaller nonprofits that make big impacts [1:24:27] opportunities to grow um and that would [1:24:30] kind of uh help sustain them along the [1:24:31] way and we're actually we're working [1:24:33] with uh Bob and the sky Foundation to [1:24:36] grow exactly that we're actually working [1:24:39] on growing a nonprofit incubator in the [1:24:41] city of skty where nonprofits smaller [1:24:44] nonprofits who order a certain budget [1:24:46] can actually have access to grant [1:24:48] writing and development services without [1:24:50] the the overhead cost that [1:24:53] that's been a part of this process in [1:24:54] the background that we've all really [1:24:55] been working on because it's not to when [1:24:58] you look at this approach I I know it [1:24:59] looks like it's a lot of money it's like [1:25:01] you know what's the dollar verse impact [1:25:03] when we talk about the work that we've [1:25:04] already done and the work we're going to [1:25:06] be committed to doing um when we show [1:25:08] the development model that everybody all [1:25:11] the nonprofits in the city of this conc [1:25:13] are to be able to access these [1:25:14] development approaches it's going to [1:25:16] make it sustainable for everyone long [1:25:18] term well I mean just to Echo what Mr [1:25:21] Farley is saying I guess I'd have to [1:25:22] also say I know that in your um Vision [1:25:25] here that you're going to revamp the [1:25:27] board of directors and activate them yes [1:25:29] we and then in terms of you know [1:25:31] full-time executive director I mean [1:25:33] obviously that would be a huge part of [1:25:36] the executive director's role will be [1:25:37] going out and continuing to look for [1:25:39] money um and that's why the program [1:25:42] people um would be you know working with [1:25:44] the youth Etc but the board's going to [1:25:46] have to you know also have influence our [1:25:52] just joined our board so so we've [1:25:55] actually we revamped our board totally [1:25:57] in last year or so um to really maximize [1:26:00] the potential on Vision again um January [1:26:03] 13th we're going to be doing our 25th [1:26:04] anniversary fundraiser at uh Union [1:26:07] College so again there's a lot of [1:26:09] intentional pieces that are tied into [1:26:10] this but again to be mindful of the time [1:26:13] I really stripped a lot [1:26:16] out well congratulations on getting the [1:26:18] building that's the building done is [1:26:21] amazing it is thank you very much no [1:26:23] more questions no yes there is yes ma'am [1:26:26] so you um in terms of the salary mhm you [1:26:29] um [1:26:30] so you um are wanting to spend uh all of [1:26:34] the arpa money like right up front um [1:26:37] however you did mention that you had [1:26:38] other opportunities for funding so um is [1:26:43] there any way for um it's 500,000 so [1:26:47] over 3 years you could it could be a [1:26:49] little bit less is there any way for you [1:26:51] or have you considered making getting [1:26:53] some of that other funding in place or [1:26:55] leveraging the funding this funding to [1:26:57] get some of that other funding in place [1:26:58] so it's not all the AR money spent yes [1:27:01] right at time so is that a possibility [1:27:04] something you consider yes that that's [1:27:06] why we're doing 25th anniversary [1:27:07] fundraising January 13th uh I was kind [1:27:10] of planning [1:27:11] for um because again we we've had lofty [1:27:14] requests and our timeline was pushed [1:27:16] back so again to be mindful and [1:27:18] respectful of the council in the city [1:27:20] and everyone else I'm I've been we've [1:27:22] been committed to doing the work first [1:27:25] ahead of time because it shows that [1:27:28] again we're trying to be collaborative [1:27:29] so you know we do have some [1:27:31] conversations in place about some [1:27:32] outside funding again the bigger thing [1:27:34] was getting the building done because [1:27:36] once I have the building then I can go [1:27:38] back to some of my funders and say Hey [1:27:40] listen we're ready to start program on [1:27:41] this date so that allows us to get some [1:27:44] of that other funding in place but the [1:27:46] building piece was really the [1:27:47] Cornerstone to locking all that stuff in [1:27:50] but again planning out the fundraiser [1:27:52] planning out on some online stuff as [1:27:54] well we do [1:27:56] have yes Mr T hi well thank you Mary so [1:28:01] um you mentioned there were 22 other [1:28:03] youth organizations here in the city [1:28:05] part of connected youth Coalition here [1:28:07] right um is there anyone I know where [1:28:10] your heart is I really do is there any [1:28:12] other one of those 22 that you can [1:28:14] collaborate with that's doing kind of [1:28:16] the same thing you're doing um bring [1:28:18] them on [1:28:19] or you hear what I'm saying we're [1:28:22] collaborating with all of you that's the [1:28:24] purpose of theate Coalition but as far [1:28:26] as the [1:28:27] funding we're all in the same boat [1:28:29] that's that's why we formed this [1:28:31] connected youth coalition to not stress [1:28:34] overstress our budgets our staff our [1:28:36] capacity um and to Not Duplicate [1:28:38] Services you know so that's also the [1:28:41] purpose of I don't know you know if you [1:28:43] guys were part of the uh SKC Foundation [1:28:46] they had they hired the group from [1:28:47] Atlanta that was the feedback that came [1:28:50] back that we have all these organiz [1:28:52] ation doing this great work and there's [1:28:53] not enough funding for everyone so in [1:28:56] creating this nonprofit incubator the [1:28:58] intention is is so that we can actually [1:29:00] shorten our budgets and extend our [1:29:02] capacity by everybody having access to [1:29:05] Brand writers and development offices [1:29:07] that's that's the point because the [1:29:08] truth is there no one can really sustain [1:29:11] what the funding we're receive we're [1:29:12] already doing the best we can absolutely [1:29:16] other questions comments anybody any [1:29:18] more information so if you could just um [1:29:21] like for information that that was asked [1:29:23] for today um and then you move forward [1:29:26] from there so thank you very much for [1:29:29] coming and again impressive the work [1:29:30] that you have done in terms of [1:29:32] revitalizing those buildings which in [1:29:34] turn revitalizes the neighborhood so [1:29:36] appreciate the work that you're doing [1:29:38] thank you very much thank [1:29:49] you okay [1:29:55] uh next committee is Public Safety I'd [1:29:58] like to call the order of Public Safety [1:30:00] Committee we have five items on the [1:30:01] agenda tonight first of which will be [1:30:04] discussed by Chief Clifford that is the [1:30:05] opioid settlement funds [1:30:08] he's right here I guess we can he [1:30:20] is [1:30:22] apologize for that no problem okay good [1:30:26] evening I have 1 two three four five [1:30:30] total legislative requests Lieutenant [1:30:33] dton is going to assist me with the last [1:30:37] one I just one I'm starting with the op8 [1:30:40] settlement funds okay the op8 settlement [1:30:42] funds so we have um a total of $ 77,4 [1:30:48] 33 we are asking uh Council to approve [1:30:52] us to accept that and use that by [1:30:54] funding our scanty County Hub the funds [1:30:57] will be used for temporary housing [1:31:00] $7,495 $3,000 for transportation and [1:31:04] $4,000 for awareness of what the scanty [1:31:07] Hub is [1:31:08] there we're asking for no matching funds [1:31:10] for [1:31:11] this um the temporary housing would be [1:31:15] to uh for us to be able to offer housing [1:31:19] to those individuals that need it where [1:31:21] no other resour sources can be can match [1:31:23] their their need for for one reason or [1:31:25] another any questions or comments so who [1:31:28] would provide the [1:31:30] housing uh well the Hub would make the [1:31:33] phone calls in order to find a place [1:31:34] that we could house the individuals most [1:31:37] likely it would be a hotel [1:31:40] motel that was exactly my [1:31:42] [Music] [1:31:44] question any yeah so do we have any like [1:31:47] guidelines for these hotels motels uh in [1:31:50] terms of you know [1:31:55] habitability the uh scanty County was a [1:31:59] part of the Hub and we would have them [1:32:02] they're they're the ones that would be [1:32:03] making those phone calls and they had [1:32:04] the guidelines that they use through [1:32:06] Social Services it's it's simply um you [1:32:09] know if if if they don't have the [1:32:11] funding available at their for them at [1:32:13] the [1:32:15] time so just as a follow so it would be [1:32:18] the same hotels that the county [1:32:19] currently uses to house the of their [1:32:22] housing that's my understanding right [1:32:24] okay [1:32:25] M yeah if that's going to be the case [1:32:27] there's any chance we could have [1:32:29] somebody look at these facilities [1:32:31] because from all reports they're not [1:32:34] very nice uh just to put it mildly and [1:32:37] quite frankly if we're going to House [1:32:40] people it should at least be appropriate [1:32:43] housing and there's a lot of issues at [1:32:45] these [1:32:47] places can I ask what facility you're [1:32:50] referencing uh some some of the ones [1:32:52] that are used I don't can't remember the [1:32:54] names twins yeah over on state [1:32:58] streety county and does not use that [1:33:01] facility we use other ones that other [1:33:05] entities are using them that we don't [1:33:07] I'll see if I can get some names and Bo [1:33:10] those on so uh um so could you if it [1:33:15] were not using that could you provide us [1:33:17] with the names that would be considered [1:33:19] because uh Mr pal does point that we [1:33:22] hear about a lot that some of the the [1:33:25] mels that people ask and we hear from [1:33:26] the people who've been house there um [1:33:29] some of the places they've been housed [1:33:30] are just really not someplace they would [1:33:33] want to live but have no choice sure so [1:33:35] if we can find out where these places [1:33:36] are that would be awesome I the list of [1:33:38] the places that they used yes thank you [1:33:41] any other questions or comments Mo those [1:33:44] second a second all in favor mov on to [1:33:47] the next agenda item fiscal year 2023 [1:33:50] State Homeland secur grant [1:33:56] program okay for for this grant uh it is [1:34:01] the 2023 State Homeland Security Grant [1:34:04] uh this Grant application is filed with [1:34:06] the Capital District urban area working [1:34:08] group which represents Albany rener and [1:34:11] scany counties both the city and the [1:34:14] counties they uh they all have to agree [1:34:17] on what to spend this These funds for [1:34:20] and then the individual recipients can [1:34:22] then choose what to purchase it how to [1:34:24] allocate it so for this 2023 our our [1:34:27] share of the funding is [1:34:30] 2,831 and we plan to dedicate that that [1:34:33] money towards [1:34:36] $165,200 for mobile computers [1:34:39] interoperable Communications equipment [1:34:41] and cameras for physical security [1:34:43] enhancements within the city [1:34:46] $2,598 for maintenance costs for [1:34:49] geospatial software which uh we use use [1:34:51] ezri and $155,000 for training costs [1:34:54] involved in active shooter and other [1:34:56] Mass incident training this funding [1:34:59] period is September 1st of 2023 to [1:35:01] August 31st of 2026 and there's no City [1:35:06] match any questions or [1:35:09] comments second [1:35:12] sorry question sorry so could you you [1:35:15] you talked about the cameras CU there's [1:35:17] a lot of like the county does a camera [1:35:19] project and so what part of cameras [1:35:23] would would this be used [1:35:26] towards um it it it varies um I believe [1:35:29] last year one of the cameras we [1:35:30] purchased was a one of our Mobile [1:35:32] Trailer cameras so that gives us the [1:35:34] flexibility to move it around there's [1:35:36] other times that we we we uh use these [1:35:38] funds to put a a camera that we add to [1:35:41] the cam County system uh for a problem [1:35:44] area that we find that there's a need [1:35:46] for them then we're also uh we're also [1:35:50] researching the ability to put cob [1:35:52] cameras in for again for the higher need [1:35:56] areas and then um one of my questions [1:35:59] was I know previously you identified [1:36:01] that with our current technological [1:36:03] Investments a in particular was it these [1:36:06] types of grants that are going to help [1:36:07] offset some of those funds or is this uh [1:36:10] in [1:36:11] addition this this grant is not one of [1:36:14] them but there are similar similar [1:36:16] grants that we apply towards our axon [1:36:18] funding but this this one uh is not one [1:36:20] of them any other questions or comments [1:36:23] may have a motion so second all in favor [1:36:26] five uh next agenda item is the police [1:36:28] traffic Services Program Grant by the [1:36:30] New York State Governor's Traffic Safety [1:36:33] Committee this grant is a another yearly [1:36:36] grant that we we receive for 2023 is [1:36:40] $46,000 there's no match on the side on [1:36:43] behalf of the city and we use these [1:36:46] funds for seat belt mobilization efforts [1:36:50] that are known as click or tick ticket [1:36:51] there's $6,700 for that regular uh pts [1:36:57] enforcement um which is $37,000 520 [1:37:00] that's where we go out and we just do [1:37:02] traffic enforcement such as on Kings [1:37:04] Road conso roads in any areas that we uh [1:37:08] you know we have complaints for Speeders [1:37:10] or people running uh lights or red stop [1:37:13] signs and then uh $1,780 for other [1:37:17] Personnel Services uh that that's [1:37:19] allocated for the annual conference that [1:37:21] revolves around the governor's Traffic [1:37:23] Safety Committee for total [1:37:26] 46,000 any questions or [1:37:29] comments so this is over and above what [1:37:31] you already do in terms of um [1:37:33] enforcement this is you do that anyway [1:37:35] and this is additional to that that's [1:37:38] correct um we we have regular uh staff [1:37:41] enforcement officers and and this this [1:37:43] funding uh we do details where we bring [1:37:46] them all together on certain periods of [1:37:48] time to do uh you know five or six six [1:37:51] officers at one time in certain areas to [1:37:53] really impact it it's going to be used [1:37:55] towards speeding we going to need a lot [1:37:56] more money yes of [1:37:59] course any other questions or comments [1:38:02] I'll second it all in favor uh and the [1:38:06] last item by Chief cliffer will be the [1:38:07] grant award uh law enforcement [1:38:10] equipment so this is a a grant for [1:38:14] $168,400 it's awarded by the new YK [1:38:18] state division of Criminal Justice [1:38:19] Services DCJS it's through our a close [1:38:22] relationship with DCJS that they offered [1:38:25] us this funding which we will plan to [1:38:27] use for holsters flashlights optic [1:38:30] mounting plates and modular optic [1:38:32] systems there is no match um however um [1:38:36] this equipment that we would be [1:38:38] purchasing would be in conjunction with [1:38:40] upgrading our Firearms which are getting [1:38:42] close to being uh needing to be replaced [1:38:45] and uh we are uh currently researching [1:38:48] moving our firearms from a 40 caliber to [1:38:50] a 9 millimeter and we would um receive a [1:38:55] credit for the ones that we trade in and [1:38:58] that would be off that would offset the [1:38:59] cost of the new ones that we do purchase [1:39:01] this is that is not a part of what we're [1:39:03] asking the grant uh to be accepted for [1:39:07] um and we would be doing our own [1:39:08] research on on uh securing the funding [1:39:11] for whatever else is needed um for those [1:39:13] handguns it's roughly [1:39:15] $30,000 which we would see in C savings [1:39:18] on on purchasing ammunition um but the [1:39:22] the better plan for that decision uh we [1:39:25] we asked for this this funding through [1:39:27] the state and we were awarded it so [1:39:29] we're looking to be able to accept [1:39:32] it he said what's a modular optic [1:39:36] unit so uh this is new technology that [1:39:39] exists now where the officer um who is [1:39:42] using the firearm looks through an optic [1:39:45] and they're able to actually see a uh uh [1:39:48] their target better where they're [1:39:49] shooting to it becomes much more [1:39:52] accurate and and have [1:39:55] a less through training you end up [1:39:57] needing to shoot Less in order to [1:40:00] eliminate the [1:40:01] threat any other questions or comments [1:40:05] I'll second oh no so you you mentioned [1:40:09] it so I don't see anything in here so if [1:40:12] this modular optic system is new is [1:40:14] there anything in here for training on [1:40:17] that yes we would we would provide that [1:40:20] there we would not uh ever switch them [1:40:22] out without doing it during our annual [1:40:24] firearms training which is a week [1:40:27] long okay so just to be clear we would [1:40:30] buy this and we wouldn't use it until [1:40:32] people have been trained on it that's [1:40:35] correct um and and I asked this uh when [1:40:38] we were um having the legislative [1:40:40] conference so I just want to double just [1:40:41] if you could just explain because I had [1:40:43] a question regarding going from the 9 mm [1:40:47] versus the 40 caliber yes and and it's [1:40:51] impact on human life so I want to know [1:40:54] yeah I don't profession to be a [1:40:55] ballistics expert but what I've been [1:40:57] told is that uh the ballistics uh behind [1:41:00] a 9mm are equal to or greater than that [1:41:04] of a 40 caliber but they're more closely [1:41:06] related to being very close um which the [1:41:09] the 40 caliber uh from the past of over [1:41:12] a 9 Miller was was better but the the [1:41:15] technology has gotten such that the 9mm [1:41:18] is just as good and it's much cheaper to [1:41:21] purchase and um and they're they're [1:41:23] smaller um to to put into the weapon so [1:41:26] it means that the the weapon that you're [1:41:28] carrying is lighter you know which which [1:41:30] you know means that you know the the the [1:41:32] P the drag on the waist for the officers [1:41:34] is a lot less um which which helps when [1:41:38] we're adding more technology like tasers [1:41:39] onto their belt so um it's for those [1:41:43] reasons why most police departments uh [1:41:45] even federal agencies are moving towards [1:41:47] this [1:41:49] technology any other questions question [1:41:51] or comments and motion so Mo second all [1:41:53] in favor uh before ask Lieutenant to [1:41:57] come up and be assessed definitely I [1:41:59] hope it doesn't go un notice uh the [1:42:01] grants that this department is able to [1:42:03] get uh should not be U taken for granted [1:42:07] and would you mind as for clarification [1:42:10] is that a credit to just your grant [1:42:11] writers or administrative staff or is it [1:42:14] safe to say you can expect annually [1:42:16] these types of [1:42:17] awards um yeah I want to give credit to [1:42:20] credit do I mean [1:42:21] now retired Chief cber um you know he he [1:42:24] did a really good job networking and and [1:42:27] uh going out and meeting people I also [1:42:29] want to give credit to um you know [1:42:31] Sergeant Weekley he's one of the [1:42:33] individuals that through a uh [1:42:37] relationship with [1:42:38] DCJS um you know we put ourselves in a [1:42:41] position where when we need something we [1:42:42] mention to them they they assist us [1:42:44] Lieutenant Doan who you're about to hear [1:42:46] from same thing he gets involved in the [1:42:48] topic and and that's really what we do [1:42:51] on a regular basis to to achieve these [1:42:53] grants um and then you know we can [1:42:56] expect certain ones every year like the [1:42:59] governor's Traffic Safety the Homeland [1:43:00] Security One um the other ones are those [1:43:03] one-timers like the the one you're about [1:43:05] to hear about and the one with from DCJS [1:43:07] but it's fair to say that our our our [1:43:10] department-wide relationship with DCJS [1:43:12] has brought us lots of funding thanks [1:43:14] you welcome uh and the last agenda item [1:43:18] will be uh Grant award New York State [1:43:20] compan annual Capital fund Grant [1:43:25] by good evening so this is a grant we're [1:43:28] awarded for $200,000 it's comes out of [1:43:31] the um animal containment fund from New [1:43:33] York State this is a fund that has been [1:43:36] increased under the governor I expect [1:43:38] that this fund's probably going to be [1:43:39] increased more in the future um [1:43:41] previously it was one to one match they [1:43:44] dropped it down to I think 25% so uh [1:43:47] right now we we're awarded [1:43:49] $200,000 we had previous $150,000 in [1:43:53] capital funds um for this project we [1:43:56] have another [1:43:56] 150,000 and uh in this year's budget so [1:43:59] we have everything we need to complete [1:44:00] the project uh we'll be looking [1:44:03] to um improve or relocate our animal [1:44:07] shelter the state has passed several [1:44:09] laws that are going to go in fact over [1:44:11] the next couple years in reference to [1:44:13] the quality of the shelters and air [1:44:16] quality and certain standards for the [1:44:17] animals uh our shelter is currently [1:44:21] certified but I would say it's not going [1:44:23] to meet those standards so this is going [1:44:25] to help us meet those standards for the [1:44:26] future we are required to either have a [1:44:28] contract with somebody like Mohawk ARS [1:44:30] or have a shelter as a municipality so [1:44:33] this is going to help us greatly with a [1:44:36] relationship with them and should should [1:44:39] they [1:44:40] uh come to a point where they can't [1:44:42] service or can't serve the capacity we [1:44:45] have serve as backup for the animals [1:44:47] that we do take [1:44:49] in [1:44:51] question mfield so is our goal to this [1:44:55] to be backup I thought our goal was for [1:44:57] us to have like a Shel that's ours and [1:44:59] maybe they need to back up um um just [1:45:02] because I know that there's some cost [1:45:04] associated with and I think the city's [1:45:06] taking a lot on that in terms of using [1:45:09] um their [1:45:10] facility yes uh the animal program has [1:45:14] never been a stream of Revenue and I'll [1:45:16] say it probably never will be however [1:45:18] this looks to the Future build [1:45:20] Partnerships to help um lessen that Gap [1:45:24] and and try to build some Revenue I can [1:45:27] say that I've got requests from reram PD [1:45:31] Scotia PD Miss PD um PDS from far as the [1:45:34] Newberg have come to me to house animals [1:45:37] we recently housed an animal for Newberg [1:45:40] Police Department for I think $3,500 so [1:45:43] we did bring some money back um in [1:45:46] reference to this grant once this [1:45:47] project is completed we'll be eligible [1:45:49] to sign up for for another Grant and uh [1:45:52] through that Grant if we partner with [1:45:54] somebody like Mo cson or another [1:45:55] municipality we' be eligible for a [1:45:57] $500,000 Grant so really what we're work [1:46:00] working to do uh shortterm make sure we [1:46:03] have that backup that we need um [1:46:07] longterm build the Partnerships and [1:46:09] build the facilities so we can bring [1:46:10] Partners in and bring Other M [1:46:13] municipalities in hopefully introduce [1:46:15] things like uh training centers for [1:46:18] responsible set or respons excuse me [1:46:23] responsible pet ownership programs and [1:46:26] uh you know rabies clinics and stuff [1:46:29] like that at the [1:46:30] site thank you any other questions or [1:46:32] comments no I want my dogs to be able to [1:46:34] go through those [1:46:39] train second all those in [1:46:42] favor with any other items to fall [1:46:44] before the Public Safety Committee [1:46:46] hearing on have a motion to so second [1:46:48] all in favor [1:46:52] call to finance and just uh one item [1:46:55] it's a reminder for the 2024 operating [1:46:57] budget and capital budget U public [1:46:59] hearing that we have scheduled for [1:47:01] October the 10th 7:00 p.m. reminder [1:47:04] again this is a public hearing for our [1:47:06] operating budget 2024 operating budget [1:47:08] and capital [1:47:10] budget any other item before um Finance [1:47:13] motion toj second all in favor I thank [1:47:16] you thank you I'd like to call to order [1:47:19] City development and planning we have 14 [1:47:21] items on the agenda and first is the [1:47:24] followup of ARA contracts Miss [1:47:28] [Music] [1:47:30] car good evening [1:47:33] again um when I last reported to council [1:47:37] I just did a bir ey VI on the thing that [1:47:39] we were waiting for so today I have a [1:47:41] complete list as previously promised in [1:47:44] contract we have the YWCA critical needs [1:47:48] safe house Bethesda house disconnect the [1:47:51] foundation sium bcni foreclosure [1:47:54] prevention and bcni owner occupied rehab [1:47:57] ready for contract and pending um [1:48:00] Council review is Green Market Hamilton [1:48:03] hill art center the YWCA Harbor House [1:48:06] and the habitat from Humanity currently [1:48:09] still awaiting some not all of the [1:48:11] pre-contract documents that are required [1:48:13] is the boys and girls club The Miracle [1:48:16] on Craig Street Coco house electric city [1:48:19] Barn SC [1:48:20] Connected quanis Club Dury and [1:48:23] Empowerment Center we have been making [1:48:26] significant progress though since the [1:48:28] last time I reported we were able to get [1:48:30] three of our subrecipients in full [1:48:34] contract other [1:48:37] questions uh I'd like to know [1:48:38] specifically what are you needing from [1:48:40] the Council on the the I think it's four [1:48:42] that you said you needed something from [1:48:43] the [1:48:44] council well I got it it was just a [1:48:46] followup on the ones that requested the [1:48:49] amendment [1:48:50] anything so BC for the extension um the [1:48:54] COC house and other ones they're just [1:48:57] missing standard documents proof of um [1:49:00] Insurance um some budgets are missing um [1:49:04] the abstract is missing so minor things [1:49:07] but everybody I've been able to make [1:49:10] contact with and follow up on Anthony's [1:49:12] letter previously sent to get the [1:49:14] documents so you're not really waiting [1:49:16] anything because we moved on the things [1:49:18] that you needed to move on we heard from [1:49:20] two organizations tonight yes okay one [1:49:23] of the ones that was waiting to move on [1:49:25] was uh scat but so yeah all that other [1:49:30] questions or any thank you thank [1:49:36] you um and just you know in terms of ARA [1:49:39] we heard from a couple of um [1:49:41] organizations tonight so we're going to [1:49:42] be waiting for their documents and then [1:49:44] we're going to have to discuss whether [1:49:46] we Grant those extensions in those um [1:49:48] chain of use of funds um because there [1:49:50] were some questions that were asked that [1:49:52] were not answered tonight so I think we [1:49:53] have to wait for that in order to make [1:49:55] those those [1:49:58] decisions okay um the item number two is [1:50:01] being pulled it was um this is actually [1:50:04] a sign that's on private property and so [1:50:07] therefore the city does not have to [1:50:09] issue a [1:50:12] permit uh item number three the update [1:50:14] for Zoning for cannabis dispensaries and [1:50:16] smoking bapy shops um I know a number of [1:50:19] the council members I'm not sure if [1:50:20] everyone had an opportunity to speak to [1:50:22] our Corporation Council and uh so at [1:50:25] this time just like to hear where we are [1:50:26] with that sure uh first I'd like to [1:50:28] thank everybody who's uh come and spoken [1:50:30] with um either me or Mr Marney about um [1:50:35] you know what you envision for um this [1:50:39] zoning District um obviously they're you [1:50:42] know we're dealing with obviously you [1:50:45] know seven Council people with generally [1:50:47] seven ways of approaching it um but I [1:50:50] appreciate everybody's patience and in [1:50:52] dealing with this I'm going to turn it [1:50:54] over to Mr Marty um who has worked on [1:50:58] this quite a bit more and I think he has [1:51:00] a handout um to give you all a sense of [1:51:05] um [1:51:07] what presumably you have envisioned um [1:51:11] and we can discuss it further [1:51:18] obviously [1:51:22] thank you hello [1:51:33] everyone um so uh what we've prepared uh [1:51:37] with development in front of you is a [1:51:39] proposed overlay zone for the adult uses [1:51:42] that would include the um cannabis uses [1:51:45] and uh smok and vape shop uses and [1:51:48] consumption uses uh uh uh we did have an [1:51:51] opportunity to meet with many of you and [1:51:53] receive the feedback and and based off [1:51:55] of that feedback uh Christine and Jack [1:51:58] and development worked on this map so we [1:52:00] can get this out today and begin uh [1:52:02] having that conversation um uh largely I [1:52:06] guess I would kind of refer to this as [1:52:07] the commercial te of skincity uh which [1:52:10] includes uh State Street the majority of [1:52:13] State Street the exception of a small [1:52:15] residential Zone down in the middle um [1:52:19] of of course uh Erie Boulevard the [1:52:21] casino development uh and uh uh Broadway [1:52:25] as well um based off of the feedback [1:52:28] that was received from many of the [1:52:29] council members we did um remove many of [1:52:32] the neighborhood retail districts that [1:52:34] were PR previously proposed um so you'll [1:52:37] know that uh uh a lot of the the area [1:52:40] that has been selected has been selected [1:52:42] due to uh it doesn't have a substantial [1:52:45] impact on residential [1:52:47] areas um so uh with that this is just a [1:52:51] working map um and uh as far as the rest [1:52:54] of the zoning is concerned um you know I [1:52:57] know Christine and I spoke a lot um with [1:52:59] the folks that came through and met with [1:53:01] us about kind of what the framework for [1:53:03] that zoning ordinance would look like so [1:53:05] we do have a skeleton that we're working [1:53:06] on and we'll start flushing out a draft [1:53:09] so that we can get that circulated as [1:53:10] well um that will take a little bit of [1:53:12] time for us to do the that is a heavier [1:53:14] lift um you I would say probably about a [1:53:17] month for us to be able to put a draft [1:53:18] together [1:53:21] I just want to piggy back on that um I [1:53:24] recognize that there are some areas on [1:53:26] this map that um maybe more sensitive um [1:53:30] in terms of the businesses that are [1:53:31] there um that you know this is obviously [1:53:35] the first rout that you're seeing of a [1:53:36] map for example you know um there was [1:53:40] concern from at least one council person [1:53:43] about new choices and having allowing um [1:53:47] you know cannabis dispensary [1:53:50] um and or um a smoke shop um close to [1:53:54] New choices um so again you know I don't [1:53:57] know if that was actually covered it [1:53:59] looks like it may be green or red on [1:54:01] here rather so that's something [1:54:03] obviously that you know we certainly [1:54:04] want to take a look at um there may be [1:54:07] other areas in here where you find it to [1:54:09] be more sensitive because of another [1:54:11] business that's there obviously you're [1:54:13] still going to have to work within um [1:54:15] the other regulations that come with the [1:54:17] overlay um plus also those regulations [1:54:20] that the state has set forth for uh [1:54:22] cannabis dispensaries and [1:54:27] lunches Mr you have a question yeah U [1:54:30] thank you for your work Mr Mar I [1:54:31] definitely appreciate this visual uh I [1:54:34] want to direct our attention to that one [1:54:36] area that's on Upper Union Street is the [1:54:38] reason for that inclusion just to [1:54:40] encapsulate encapsulate the current [1:54:42] business that's there um so that is the [1:54:44] Upper Union Street commercial Corridor [1:54:47] um so there is already a business there [1:54:49] uh that would be one uh proposed area [1:54:52] because it is it is largely commercial [1:54:54] that the this these would be permitted [1:54:56] uses um obviously there is footage [1:54:59] restrictions um already imposed for the [1:55:01] Cannabis uses by the state and then we'd [1:55:03] be looking to impose similar footage [1:55:05] restrictions for the vape shop and and [1:55:08] the smoke shop uses as well so there [1:55:11] would be a limitation to the number of [1:55:12] businesses that' be able to go in that [1:55:14] District but it is being proposed uh [1:55:16] that it's a permitted use there and [1:55:18] there a followup question if we did [1:55:20] remove that Corridor um that wouldn't [1:55:24] prohibit their continued business that [1:55:25] would allow us to if they were ever to [1:55:28] close business unfortunately there would [1:55:29] not be a replacement in that area [1:55:30] correct correct if it was not permitted [1:55:32] in the Upper Union Street District it [1:55:34] would become a pre-existing [1:55:35] non-performing use um and unless the [1:55:37] council chose to amortize pre-existing [1:55:40] non-performing uses they would be [1:55:41] permitted to continue as long as they [1:55:43] don't discon thank you Mr B can you send [1:55:47] us a uh version where we electronic [1:55:50] version so we can kind of see the [1:55:52] streets yes we do have a pdf version we [1:55:55] can circulate uh and we could probably [1:55:58] cut off NY and reram to T it up a little [1:56:01] bit but it's just a very large map to [1:56:03] try to get the whole thing on one pie [1:56:05] paper um but uh uh the PDF you can zoom [1:56:09] in and see uh partial detail oh good um [1:56:13] so uh Mr C didn't mention the area [1:56:16] around the choices but then we have [1:56:18] another um um facility that's going up [1:56:22] near Bethesda house it's part of [1:56:23] Bethesda house so are those [1:56:25] considerations those being taken [1:56:27] considerations because again they house [1:56:29] a more vulnerable [1:56:31] population um certainly that's something [1:56:33] that we can take into consideration uh [1:56:35] it wasn't specifically discussed for [1:56:37] purposes of preparing this map but if [1:56:39] there are certain things that the [1:56:41] council would like to see or or changes [1:56:43] or modifications we can certainly take [1:56:45] that um into account and uh and hone in [1:56:49] on those parcels and see where they are [1:56:51] um ideally what we would want to avoid [1:56:53] in a scenario like this is picking and [1:56:56] choosing what Parcels so the overlay [1:56:58] should be continuous um you know unless [1:57:01] we're leaving out a chunk of an area for [1:57:04] specific purpose um like we did here [1:57:06] this is the uh this little spot here is [1:57:09] actually an R2 District um that's just [1:57:11] kind of like left on State Street so we [1:57:13] not do that cuz it's not commercial um [1:57:16] but uh we don't want to spot Z so we [1:57:17] don't want to we don't want to pick in [1:57:19] choose um one parcel versus you know the [1:57:23] parcel next door is not going to allow [1:57:24] but two Parcels down we are going to [1:57:26] allow so it has to be pretty a pretty [1:57:28] large area correct but you know I'm not [1:57:31] familiar with that area that you're [1:57:32] referencing so there may be a reason [1:57:34] maybe that area shouldn't be included um [1:57:36] you know it's just uh um it's certainly [1:57:38] something that we can take a look at [1:57:40] okay Mr Williams but I think to previous [1:57:43] conversations Mr C that could be [1:57:44] something built into an exemption to [1:57:47] incorporate vulnerable populations is [1:57:48] that correct understanding an exemption [1:57:52] um I gu I that there was language also [1:57:54] well you know there's language that can [1:57:56] be used not for the purposes of cannabis [1:57:59] dispensary right because that's already [1:58:01] being regulated by the St um but um as [1:58:05] it applies to the smoke shops and vape [1:58:07] shops uh the city council can certainly [1:58:10] set up you know a number of feet away [1:58:13] from another smoke shop vape shop or [1:58:17] some type of you know a school or [1:58:20] um a reh a rehabilitation facility or [1:58:22] something along those lines for those [1:58:25] non Canabis related um shops that would [1:58:28] be regulated over this uh overlay [1:58:31] District thank [1:58:35] you anything else anybody want to have [1:58:39] them consider look into what we're what [1:58:40] we're moving ahead on this I'm sorry is [1:58:43] there anything further that you would [1:58:44] like to to see as we're moving forward [1:58:47] on this except getting the PDF so that [1:58:50] we can see so we can [1:58:52] see well thank you very much and so you [1:58:54] said within a month then you would be [1:58:56] able to our goal is to have a a solid [1:58:59] written draft of the actual ordinance [1:59:02] itself uh within a month um so that we [1:59:05] can uh we can move forward with that [1:59:06] process because that's going to be the [1:59:07] meat potato so what we do here though [1:59:09] overly the map is just is actually the [1:59:12] small piece it's a [1:59:15] good well thank you glad we're moving [1:59:17] ahead thank you very much and if I can [1:59:19] add on to that um the map is still [1:59:22] something obviously as Mr Marne [1:59:24] indicated we're going to work on the [1:59:25] language for what the silver L what the [1:59:27] requirements will be but this map is [1:59:29] still something that you know will be [1:59:31] modified um over time as you provide us [1:59:34] with additional feedback on um you know [1:59:38] your thoughts as a council on what you [1:59:40] want and what you don't want areas that [1:59:42] you think might be um more sensitive to [1:59:45] having these types of businesses there [1:59:48] um versus other areas that maybe we did [1:59:51] not highlight in red where you think it [1:59:53] would be right to allow these types of [1:59:54] businesses um so obviously we continue [1:59:57] to welcome uh the comments from the city [2:00:00] council so that we can make your Visions [2:00:02] a reality for this [2:00:03] purpose thank you thank you uh so item [2:00:06] number four is [2:00:11] um uh the discussion regarding the [2:00:13] six-month moratorium uh on the [2:00:15] submission and processing of um building [2:00:17] permits etc for for um smoke shops VAP [2:00:20] shops tobacco or V consumption [2:00:24] businesses and we did um send for [2:00:30] a an opinion by uh from the county um [2:00:35] Planning Commission and everybody got [2:00:39] that so um we just take a look at that [2:00:43] and further discussion on on this [2:00:46] particular item [2:00:51] okay [2:00:55] mhm okay [2:00:57] so this point in time um there's no [2:01:01] discussion [2:01:02] no of the what we received from the [2:01:06] county so at this point in time we need [2:01:09] to decide whether we um go forward with [2:01:11] the moratorium [2:01:14] or or [2:01:18] not Mr just a follow up with regards to [2:01:21] our last conversation and the update we [2:01:25] received from McCarthy regarding to the [2:01:27] enforcement and talking to the may this [2:01:29] afternoon and uh with four additional um [2:01:32] shop submit applications so in total um [2:01:36] there's a significant amount of [2:01:39] um shops are submitting their [2:01:42] application to coming [2:01:44] compliance so as I said before I mean [2:01:47] the enforcement is going on let's [2:01:50] look at what's happening and allow these [2:01:52] business to come in compliance I don't [2:01:54] think we should do a moreor at this [2:01:56] point in time the enforcement [2:01:58] significant amount of enforcement is [2:01:59] going [2:02:00] on so that's my point at this [2:02:04] point can I just ask the point of [2:02:06] clarification you mean um four shops [2:02:08] that are coming into compliance that are [2:02:10] already um started or are you saying [2:02:12] this four new shops that based on the [2:02:15] last report that we received two weeks [2:02:16] ago the four more application [2:02:19] certificate of use [2:02:21] application so they're existing already [2:02:24] but they did not have their paperwork in [2:02:26] cor Bas some of the notes you have here [2:02:28] there four more should be updated here [2:02:31] okay so yes Mr T so there just [2:02:35] originally they were just opening [2:02:36] without compliance from the [2:02:38] city like popping up that was one of the [2:02:41] main reasons so I wanted a moratorium to [2:02:44] put a halt on them so um we would know [2:02:47] if one opened up that you know [2:02:50] yeah so so and I and I did um find three [2:02:57] that um weren't on the list um that that [2:03:01] the mayor had issued so I can pass [2:03:04] that's they popped [2:03:06] up na has been out St I send those to na [2:03:11] one was on Michigan Avenue one was on [2:03:14] Broadway I can't recall where the third [2:03:16] one is but I mean I think there's three [2:03:18] on Broadway already but I did check them [2:03:20] off to the rist so okay um but again [2:03:23] they're just popping up wherever they [2:03:25] want to pop up for whatever reason um so [2:03:29] did you forward those um that you found [2:03:31] yeah you already did no I [2:03:34] will so they could have been existing [2:03:36] and we just didn't we didn't know they [2:03:38] weren't on the list correct okay Mr WS [2:03:43] so I think one of my comments is that's [2:03:45] that's one assumption I think would also [2:03:47] I think I I would in infer from them [2:03:49] coming into compliances maybe they were [2:03:51] unaware and I think that as we deal with [2:03:53] the community I think having people that [2:03:55] are actively working towards once [2:03:57] they've been identified so I can respect [2:03:59] that the enforcement seems to be working [2:04:01] at this present time with for coming [2:04:02] back into uh I guess good standings but [2:04:05] definitely I think if there is a a [2:04:08] company that is not being responsive I [2:04:10] think that would be a blatant indication [2:04:11] of just not wanting to follow the [2:04:14] appropriate local [2:04:16] laws Mr Val y we're I mean just given [2:04:19] our previous discussion we're moving [2:04:21] forward on zoning anyway it's going to [2:04:24] be relatively quick to do this um makes [2:04:27] sense to have the moratorium that way if [2:04:30] new shops do pop up and they are popping [2:04:33] up um we automatically know they're [2:04:35] illegal um we can have those shut down [2:04:40] right away um but the zoning process [2:04:43] we're looking at what a month two months [2:04:46] at the most that if there's a [2:04:49] shop that's existing looking to do [2:04:52] something to get their their uh self in [2:04:56] compliance that doesn't impact them so [2:04:59] we can move forward with the moratorium [2:05:02] stop it get the zoning in place help the [2:05:05] enforcement aspect yes there's [2:05:07] enforcement going on but new shops are [2:05:09] popping up just makes sense to do the [2:05:12] moratorium for the few months until we [2:05:15] get the zoning in place so I just want [2:05:17] to uh Mr col if you to clarify um this [2:05:19] for me if there's a shop that's [2:05:22] currently open but not in compliant and [2:05:25] we move forward with this what happens [2:05:27] to that [2:05:29] shop if they're not in compliance then [2:05:32] correct then and they continue to open [2:05:34] after a moratorium has been passed they [2:05:36] will be in violation the moratorium and [2:05:38] they could potentially be cited and we [2:05:40] can see conjunctive relief to [2:05:42] essentially shut them down during the [2:05:43] period of the [2:05:45] moratorium that that's what I want to [2:05:47] know because then then doesn't not allow [2:05:49] them to come in compliance I me they [2:05:51] could get their paperwork in if they [2:05:52] know we're doing a moratorium they could [2:05:54] at least start that process and there's [2:05:56] a cuta language oh I'm sorry I'm sorry [2:05:59] Mr there's cuta language in the [2:06:01] moratorium um where somebody could [2:06:04] potentially make an application to the [2:06:05] city council to explain some type of [2:06:08] hardship uh what should be said about [2:06:10] that hardship is um just the failure to [2:06:14] you know to be in compliance and having [2:06:17] been open without you know know having [2:06:19] been in compliance is not a hardship um [2:06:23] so it would have to be you know really [2:06:25] some extenuating circumstance that the [2:06:27] council sees just and fit to [2:06:30] allow [2:06:32] okay Mr um I know this application will [2:06:36] be uh turning over to your office is [2:06:38] there an application that you received [2:06:41] today uh and take a look off hand um I [2:06:45] don't know I don't have an answer for [2:06:46] you um I'd have to take a look to see [2:06:49] where everything [2:06:51] stands I don't think I have I don't [2:06:54] think so can you can you please um have [2:06:58] a copy of [2:06:59] this may you're going to get an update [2:07:01] for us sometime this [2:07:03] week uh yes [2:07:06] participate [2:07:08] [Music] [2:07:10] okay any other any further discussion so [2:07:13] at this point in time we have to um it's [2:07:16] the motion is going to be before us [2:07:18] forther we moove forward with the [2:07:19] moratorium or continue in the uh with [2:07:22] the enforcement and allowing people to [2:07:23] come into [2:07:25] compliance that is my position [2:07:28] to allow the enforcement [2:07:31] to to work itself [2:07:34] out so you're not in favor of moving [2:07:37] forward with the moratorium that is [2:07:40] correct I feel the same way [2:07:43] okay okay well um then that's then we're [2:07:47] not going to be able to will not be [2:07:48] moving forward the moratorium but we'll [2:07:49] be continuing with the [2:07:51] enforcement thank [2:07:54] you yes uh as a point of clarification [2:07:57] so does that cease the moratorium is it [2:08:00] in a pause status um we never voted it [2:08:03] through so it never started thank you [2:08:05] you're [2:08:06] welcome all right so item number five is [2:08:09] to discuss the process of handling the [2:08:11] outstanding accounts in um from SL slbc [2:08:14] as you remember I brought this forward [2:08:17] before um because there was a um excuse [2:08:20] me a resolution that was passed in 201 [2:08:23] um3 I believe um that the language in it [2:08:28] made it sound as though we were the um [2:08:32] administration of it was in the hands of [2:08:34] the city council and so we passed that [2:08:38] that's not what we wanted to happen but [2:08:40] um unfortunately the language was not [2:08:42] was not that ended up in the resolution [2:08:44] was not what um we had discussed at this [2:08:48] table [2:08:48] so um bringing it back for further [2:08:50] discussion and Clarity on what that [2:08:53] resolution needs to look like to make [2:08:54] sure that it's not [2:08:56] responsibility of the um city council [2:08:59] but rather the [2:09:01] city so Mr Cen if you would just sure I [2:09:05] have the opportunity to speak to [2:09:07] president Porterfield about this [2:09:08] resolution and I think we both agree [2:09:10] that you know um the language could have [2:09:13] been better but at the same time I think [2:09:14] it accomplishes what it was meant to [2:09:16] accomplish um the obviously um the city [2:09:20] council acts as uh the body that would [2:09:23] be accepting mortgages for the purposes [2:09:25] of of assignment and that's exactly what [2:09:28] happened in this resolution um the [2:09:30] administration of um what happens once [2:09:34] we take um you know um ownership of [2:09:37] those mortgages um would be something [2:09:40] that would be carried out by City [2:09:41] departments as the city council doesn't [2:09:43] really have the capacity or um the power [2:09:46] to carry out those mortgages [2:09:49] um so that resolved statement here is [2:09:52] that the city council agrees to accept [2:09:53] the assignment is doing so on behalf of [2:09:55] the city um and um what would make sense [2:09:58] related to that is because the city [2:10:00] council isn't signing the assignments [2:10:02] themselves to accept it it was [2:10:03] authorizing the mayor to sign it um so [2:10:07] there was some um confusion on my part I [2:10:09] guess um from the last meeting because [2:10:12] um there was nothing here that I saw [2:10:14] that had to be amended because I think [2:10:15] it accomplished exactly what needed to [2:10:17] be accomplished [2:10:19] um and those mortgages have been and and [2:10:21] accounts have been assigned byc to the [2:10:24] city um I know Mr Brown and I have been [2:10:28] talking frequently about these uh [2:10:31] mortgages because obviously um we have [2:10:34] folks reaching out to us looking for um [2:10:38] satisfactions and um obviously also [2:10:41] there's been a paperwork issue that the [2:10:43] council's aware of um so we can kind of [2:10:46] keep track of what was assigned and what [2:10:47] was previously paid and that's something [2:10:49] that we continue to work through so I'm [2:10:51] happy to answer any questions that you [2:10:53] may have related to this um resolution [2:10:56] and um any questions about any type of [2:10:59] um additional resolution that you see [2:11:02] I'll see fit to uh [2:11:05] pass so my concern was was that the [2:11:08] original resolution in 2013 um was not [2:11:12] did not like for me anyway spell out [2:11:14] that the city council would do it on [2:11:16] behalf of the city but you're saying [2:11:17] that because our only role is that we [2:11:20] would that the city would actually do [2:11:21] the administration the city council [2:11:23] would just approve it is that then [2:11:25] that's 2013 as it stands is fine the one [2:11:29] in [2:11:32] 2013 mayor my in reviewing this have [2:11:37] been part of the discussion is that [2:11:41] entity was [2:11:44] dissolved there were some assets that [2:11:47] were out [2:11:49] outstanding uh mortgages most of which [2:11:52] if not all of which had been funded [2:11:55] through City assets that had been given [2:11:58] to [2:12:01] slbc and that transferred those assets [2:12:06] back to the [2:12:07] city and the followup is handled in the [2:12:11] normal course of business if and the [2:12:14] question has come up sometimes if those [2:12:18] mortgages were going to be discharged [2:12:21] absent payment of them so if a mortgage [2:12:24] is paid uh I sign the satisfaction [2:12:30] saying that the city has received it we [2:12:32] do this in uh number of times some of [2:12:34] our [2:12:35] non [2:12:37] uh our paper lanss that we put against [2:12:40] properties to make sure that they're [2:12:41] owner occupied other things when those [2:12:44] terms and conditions are established I [2:12:47] can sign that if there was a situation [2:12:51] where we were going to discharge the [2:12:53] mortgage or wave it absent payment of it [2:12:56] it would have to come back to the city [2:12:58] council and the council would have to [2:13:00] vote on it to [2:13:02] say they've reduced the amount of money [2:13:05] they've waved what's owed or whatever [2:13:08] the final disposition that was being [2:13:10] negotiated [2:13:12] or entertained at that point in time and [2:13:16] so 2013 covers that so we don't need to [2:13:18] do [2:13:19] anything is that what your yes okay all [2:13:23] right that answers that so we don't have [2:13:25] to need to do that all [2:13:28] [Music] [2:13:29] right okay um um just yes the last time [2:13:34] we discuss this we asked we asked for a [2:13:35] list of the outstanding mortgages did we [2:13:39] did we receive that so um that seems [2:13:42] like to be something that's hard to find [2:13:45] um we gone to um [2:13:48] something like Metroplex they thought [2:13:51] some files were there there will be [2:13:53] there um thought we think there may be [2:13:55] some files here so at this point in time [2:13:57] I don't know that there's a list Mr [2:14:00] Brown would you like to speak to that [2:14:04] yes so currently we have a working list [2:14:09] that we're still expanding on um certain [2:14:11] files um through the dissolution went to [2:14:14] Metroplex because they also funded some [2:14:17] of those so the ones that the city [2:14:19] funded most of those all came to the [2:14:21] city so we're still working on getting a [2:14:23] complete list so that we can send you a [2:14:25] complete one instead of like three [2:14:26] versions of mon okay do you have a time [2:14:28] frame on the complete [2:14:30] list um I would say that I should be [2:14:33] able to provide you an update within [2:14:35] maybe two more cycles that minimum a [2:14:40] mon all right thank you thank [2:14:46] you so so is there any further [2:14:48] discussion around uh that this slbc okay [2:14:52] thank you item number six is a reminder [2:14:54] um that there will be a public hearing [2:14:56] regarding amending um 24 excuse me 24818 [2:15:01] of the city code to designate J Street [2:15:02] from Liberty Street to to Union a [2:15:05] two-way and the public hearing will be [2:15:07] on October 10th here it says the 9th but [2:15:10] none of us will be here on the 9th it's [2:15:12] it's a day off so on October 10th is [2:15:14] when the public he want to come [2:15:16] early [2:15:21] okay all right item number seven is a [2:15:24] cerem ceremonial resolution for hearts [2:15:26] Family Cleaners Miss Taro yes so I'd [2:15:29] like to uh put that forward do some [2:15:32] research I have already talked to Sue um [2:15:34] and got a whole bunch of stuff together [2:15:37] on the cleaners um they're retiring [2:15:39] after 25 years in service um by a part [2:15:43] of up Upper Union Street and uh so we're [2:15:46] going to present that at a later time so [2:15:49] it would not be at this council meeting [2:15:50] not okay later time [2:15:53] okay need a motion so move second all in [2:15:56] favor I I thank you uh item number eight [2:16:00] is a ceremon ceremonial resolution [2:16:02] recognizing October as domestic violence [2:16:04] Awareness Month Miss Patrick yes so [2:16:06] October is domestic violence awareness [2:16:09] month and um I'd like to bring forth the [2:16:11] ceremonial resolution so that we bring [2:16:14] this issue and the services that are [2:16:16] being provided on our [2:16:18] community to the Public's [2:16:22] attention all ins motion so Mo second [2:16:26] second all in favor I thank you item [2:16:29] number nine is a ceremonial resolution [2:16:31] for connected hardware and electric um [2:16:33] they are uh celebrating their 100th year [2:16:36] anniversary and actually their event is [2:16:37] on the 5ifth so we won't be able to pass [2:16:39] it before that however um um you know [2:16:43] having a centennial anniversary is [2:16:44] pretty significant so I would like the [2:16:46] um the city council to be able to uh [2:16:51] present the resolution so move second [2:16:53] all in favor I thank you um item number [2:16:56] 10 a ceremonial resolution for Italian [2:16:58] American Heritage Month Mr palamini as [2:17:01] the title says it's Italian American [2:17:03] heritage month and uh so we recognize [2:17:06] this annually it's just a matter of [2:17:09] waiting I'll let uh Miss Miku know [2:17:12] whether they'll be in person or would [2:17:13] like it at their event they're going to [2:17:15] let me know in the next day or two okay [2:17:16] so we're not sure yet the will know [2:17:18] before Monday perfect so second all in [2:17:21] favor five five I would like to add one [2:17:24] more ceremoni resolution because I think [2:17:26] five is a good number um there's a woman [2:17:29] a young lady um she represented skincity [2:17:32] in um New York State I guess they're [2:17:35] still calling them beauty pageant um and [2:17:38] so we met her at the Caribbean day and I [2:17:42] think her last name is I want to [2:17:44] pronounce it incorrectly so Mr mudar [2:17:46] what is her last name buo buo so uh [2:17:49] would like to um have Miss buo come to [2:17:52] the city council meeting and you can all [2:17:53] meet her and actually present her with a [2:17:55] u a um ceremonial resolution just [2:17:59] honoring her for having received that [2:18:01] distinction so M second all in favor I I [2:18:05] thank you thank you uh council members I [2:18:07] appreciate that uh the last four items [2:18:10] are for property sales and therefore [2:18:12] will be an executive [2:18:14] session so I need a motion to go into [2:18:17] second session second all in [2:18:20] favor bring second session and all [2:18:23] members of the public will have to leave