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stuck in

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the well if it's nice at least you can

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sit out Boors and do something

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okay

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who else is who else is going to yell at

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none

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hey I got that

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thing it off the

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counter

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like to call to order connect the city

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council committee meeting for Mond it's

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not m is Friday October 6 2023 and I'll

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turn over to Mr

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M thank you madam president I would like

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to call the finance committee to

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order um this evening we

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are having our for um hearing on the

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2024 budget proposed

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budget and this evening we will be

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reviewing a few

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departments and I want

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to Ferrari you want to take it from here

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with terms of Revenue and after Revenue

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we will then go to lot

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Department

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okay D you want to go ahead and commence

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sure do you want me to run L line by

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line or let's give it an overview first

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just give us an overview and then we'll

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go through um the big items and then

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we'll sure open for any comment or any

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questions from the members

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the overview for the 20124 proposed

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budget we are looking at a total revenue

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uh general fund of 11 million 111 M

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9947 um we have the

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326,000 real property taxes proposed for

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the 2024 budget uh Big Ticket items uh

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are also including uh sales of use tax

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of 17

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million um we're looking at a new

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Revenue stream of 300,000 for cannabis

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uh sales

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tax I'm

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sorry trash charges we're looking at a

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6.9 million proposed 2024

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budget other Big Ticket items include a

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4 million post budget revenue of sale of

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houses joh would you like to go l l now

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or no no no no just go through the big

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big ticket items and that's for it and

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then we'll have um if members have any

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um need any explanation or any other

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lines can did see uh p had a couple

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questions about

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revenues uh one of them includ the fees

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and Year

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date

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$57 dat that's that's 2110a is that is

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that 211 I didn't write it on my own not

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211 okay thank 231 232 21%

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increase um interest and earnings uh

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questioning why we rais to

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450,000 um right now here today we're

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42,6 interest rates are really well

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today for the sale of H sale of homes

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currently year to dat at 390,000 we're

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anticipating another

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700,000 proximately by the end of the

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year that was somebody else's and I

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think one of the other questions you had

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was about get Grant and where was that

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um adding State approval at this okay

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that 521 th000 so it's not actually

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approved yet yeah I thinke clarify that

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ready to next

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Friday about may I ask another question

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go ahead please um you said campus um

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additional campus revenue of $300,000 or

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something propos 300,000 um we received

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approximately 95 97,000 and that's about

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one qu so we just being you know little

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give you know give and takes over

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estimate around 300,000 for next year

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okay I actually um could you just tell

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me what line number that is please I

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83075 oh wait no we just changed it

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that's right

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cannabis oh cannabis I'm sorry I thought

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you said campus sorry I'm so sorry

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forget it I know what that is sorry

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sorry

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campus

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a116 no I'm all said now thanks I just

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misheard

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you if you wonder why we call it tax and

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adult use cannabis that's the state told

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us to use that okay that name and number

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thank you and what to date on

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that 97,000 yeah

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dere I provided you guys all with a year

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to date that's for revenues next the

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revenues and uh the other expenses that

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we're be talking about tonight so let

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got I just want to let you

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know so so this report here is the

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revenue that's Reven year here is the um

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expenditure for the Department we can

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Revenue revenues in color expenditures

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figured it help you a little bit spin

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expens other question go ahead please so

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I wanted to ask about the um

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parking parking it's like

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a741 41A 41b um so the parking the 41A

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a741 it says parking fees non- taxable

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and then so I'm not sure I understand

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why they're broken out that way the

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parking lot fees

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$300

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so okay uh parking meter fees are

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uh what has happened as I recall I'm

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just thinking off top of my head you

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said we have the Downtown parking fees

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that deal with the kiosks and stuff like

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that as parking fees these other parking

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metor fees I believe are the ones like

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uh that we have I believe in Union

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Street and the other Fe the other

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parking meters that we have they're not

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downtown uh the The Parking Spot search

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charge uh that the parking spot fee that

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says $300 that the mayor pays for his

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parking spot and that's what the M

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pays is that this budget assumes my

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re-election so that is in

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there the other day I came in here I

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sold a May's car uh the marriage fees

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for the first time in history are

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treated as a revenue line here so that's

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been probably

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$30,000 ni donated back to the city so

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we try and just project an image of

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fiscal conservativism

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and one time uh Council Pres raised the

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issue were i' taken parking spaces away

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from people with parking permits that

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was done in 2011 by the voters we took

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that

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referendum uh to clarify the authorities

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so

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that terms and conditions of employment

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solely the prerogative of the city

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council

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so parking is a benefit so if somebody

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wants a parking space that's

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specifically designated for them has to

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go to city

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council commissioner Finance has one

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that we never went to the council if you

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remember uh when I hired Deborah D

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NOA I wanted to pay more Council was

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hesitant about that and went with the

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lower salary I said well I'll throw in a

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parking space And so there's a

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commissioner Finance parking spot that

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was really for de D NOA

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and Mr Ferrari does well here he might

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let him keep his parking space or you

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take it away from if you don't like

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them you're good that sto you you're

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good any other

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questions go ahead please uh I had a

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question about the uh Property

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Management fees I apologize if you

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already briefed that but could you just

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explain what that consists of and the

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reason why I was asking is because uh

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this year it's identifying a 50%

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reduction and it's line number on the

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um uh we we have been looking we've been

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working with the zoning department and

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met with them uh in the past as you look

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at to see uh in 2021 their fees have

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only been collecting you know 28

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25,000 uh we were looking we thought

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that 2023 was going to be a renewed year

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for them to you know go out and add more

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more U cases uh but year today um 89

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1789 we're only at 40,000 so we were

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taking that number and looking forward

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for 202 uh 2024 and we're we're thinking

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that uh 50,000 is the honest number

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before that until until we get him up

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and running in a proper management way

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again yeah I go ahead please question so

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it's um for the on a 2770 miscellaneous

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revenue

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and in the 23 budget it was 368,000

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and in the 24 it's down to 10 right uh

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in uh in 2023 the water department had

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one uh had won a a a judgment against a

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a property owner a property owner and uh

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uh we had felt that we we were going to

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be able to get out of that

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350,000 and we're still working on

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getting it done I I believe uh a lot of

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ask Law Department they come in uh we're

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probably not going to get that money so

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2024 if it does work out the council

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wants to at some point go into executive

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session I brief in Greater detail on

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that that this point would be still

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subject to litigation and

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negotiations uh we drafted down to 10 to

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emphasize you know what we feel you know

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is the true value of that you know

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revenue is going to come in you know not

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not that

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amount besides the not the 350 but any

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else because we don't have anything

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outstanding that we know of that it's

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going to come in so we can't just throw

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numbers in there you and that so you're

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saying that that didn't come in or did

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come in it did not come in as of yet we

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feel that it will come in but probably

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sometime in

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2024 thank you we're still working on

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and as the mayor said it's something we

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have to talk about in executive session

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thank

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um and my other question is for a 2590 B

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Taxi and ice cream

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permits so that went down um as well

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yeah that that number came from the

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police department when they're here on

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Friday they can explain that to you okay

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thank you that's number that they gave

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is thank

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you um that's f a 15 20 F PD Police

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District Revenue wasn't I supposed to go

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up say one more time eight 15 20 15 20 F

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8 yeah it's going to go up by uh I think

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3% or 2%

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yeah but you don't have it I I think we

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do we C right because because of what

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know the numbers is distorted because we

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we didn't start like a full year we got

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yeah yeah 2022 is 75 2023 is 225 and

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2024 you have the same

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thing double check on that if you can

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check that then let us know CU I'm

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pretty sure that we checked it you know

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yeah exactly same number yeah jeez I

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didn't realize that I know I know we we

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had those numbers you know it is we

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probably had the 23 and we wanted just

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put it in 24 by mistake 15 1520

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any other question on

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Revenue go ahead please uh just forsake

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a clarification uh it's the P4 a389 H

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the casino license Fe right could you

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speak to that differ okay yeah um you we

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we are uh working with as you can see in

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2022 we had 3.5 million but we were

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working with the county uh in uh uh

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getting these numbers and that's number

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that we're

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agreeing 3.6 million what what is our

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actual you have it an actual right now

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yes we do have that the are of the dat

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we just want to get that number

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again look at

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1.87 Milli can you please rep that 1.8

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1,878 792

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12 that's actually for two quarters we

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didn't get our third quarter yet oh so

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that's the end of

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June yeah we we didn't get our

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thir that's

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great excuse me that is

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great we're trying to be conservative to

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with the honest number still you know

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that means 24 is in good

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place any other question on

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Revenue okay we'll move on

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to Law Department and then we'll come

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back on

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schedule

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Law Department page

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seven the law department for just a

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brief overview um the adopted budget

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2023 adopted budget number of

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97756 proposing for the 24th budget

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98925

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that is a approximately 1% increase U

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build

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in24 budget are n

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positions sure um currently you know

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sapping levels in our

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office uh consists of two full-time

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attorneys um me and Deputy Corporation

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Council morning we have two part-time

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attorneys um we have openings uh in our

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department uh for other

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attorneys um we

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have four administrative support staff

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identified as the records access officer

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who handles um Freedom of Information

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law requests aenas that we

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receive um other types of record

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requests uh we have a uh code

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enforcement

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Specialists um who helps prepare cases

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for prosecution in City Court um she's

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also uh taking claims when they come in

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um and interacting with our insurance

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company um and outside Council once

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those claims are assigned to turn into

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litigation um we have an

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ips3 who um you know answers the phone

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does filing

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more of the you know probably customary

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um administrative work that you find in

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an office we have the confidential

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secretary to The Corporation Council um

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she generally hand handles um real

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property work um she's been out since

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April

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um because of um she had she had a baby

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um so we're anticipating her coming back

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soon um obviously you know from a I

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guess employee standpoint it obviously

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has made it difficult having fewer

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attorneys than um we'd like particularly

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full-time attorneys and having one less

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uh administrative staff in person during

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the year um to touch on if I may um oh

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and the two part-time attorneys are

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identified in um object 121 814 2121 for

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DM salary um was 0.5 we brought another

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last year current year we did bring in

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another attorney to work part-time um

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one part-time attorney is generally two

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days a week the other one U generally

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three days a week um but not full days

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um for one of

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them

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um in terms of property sales um

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obviously the number is lower than

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obviously we would like um that's

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multifaceted in terms of the reasons why

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uh first we obviously obiously is you

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know you know we didn't do a foreclosure

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for quite some time because of Co we

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were prevented from doing that um

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because of

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the because of co uh we have obviously

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now done a foreclosure we've taken 105

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properties our initial list was roughly

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750 um so it's great that people paid

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their taxes and were able to redeem but

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we did take a a good number of

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properties only in May um and as the

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council aware they've been um

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authorizing sales lately of some higher

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pric properties um I think the last

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eight non lot properties um that the

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council's authorized sales for totals

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484000 um so you know we're hoping

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obviously to move more properties

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through the city council um to to get

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them you know sold

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um one of the things that Mr Ferrari

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touched on was uh judgments U for

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particular um case um total judgments on

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that right now because they haven't been

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paid with interest exceed

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$700,000 um we do anticipate we will be

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um able to take you know get all of that

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uh we are working there's a receiver

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who's been appointed um we're dealing

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with some legal um circumstances related

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to it back Mr Mar was working on it

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today um so I you know hopeful that you

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know early in 2020 for um well the

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receiver will be able to liquidate the

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properties that he's overseeing and will

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be able to you know make the city whole

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in terms of that fine money happy to

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answer questions that the council may

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have as it relates to budget or anything

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else that um in terms of the

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revenue I don't want choose oh okay I'm

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just going to ask um so we're going from

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nine positions to eight positions though

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and um was that ninth position ever

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filled no so in terms of what you're

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looking at right here um there are three

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assistant Corporation Council full times

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right uh it's important to note that um

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during 20123 Mr Marney was at the

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beginning of the year an assistant

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corporation councel uh he was promoted

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to Deputy Corporation councel during the

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year um so that is the movement of one

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assistant to the deputy which was

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unfilled previously okay um since James

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Commodore

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was in in the office um that also

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explains why the jump in salary for the

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deputy Deputy Corporation Council um is

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relatively high fure it was 9 it was

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$95,000 for the 2023 adopted budget um

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and it's U being moved to

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$16,800 uh when Mr Mar obviously one of

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the considerations um for you know

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having an attorney in the office

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especially when were short staff is

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being able to compensate the attorney

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for for being there um because that

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attorney is shouldering more work when

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we're not filling positions um so the Mr

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Marty's current salary as Deputy Corp

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council is

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102 um which is when you add 4% to that

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that's where you get the

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10680 um because it happened partway

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through the year where he was uh

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essentially Advanced of the Deputy

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position um there was money within the

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budget of that 95,000 to pay for the

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remainder of the year as Deputy Court

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Council

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um the three unfilled positions are

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obviously positions that we've been

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looking to fill um we've interviewed

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some folks it's you know obviously been

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a difficult process finding somebody who

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um has the experience to obviously do

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the work that we do since it is

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multifaceted know we handle quite a bit

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of different types of legal work um you

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know the the goal even losing that one

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assistant Corporation Council that one

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of that part of that was um you know we

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brought on a part-time uh assistant

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Corporation Council during the year and

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that essentially is now being reflected

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in the bottom for the prum salary since

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we went from 1 half to you know one

482
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whole yeah um so a reflection of the two

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part- Tim that we have right now

484
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okay all right so you mentioned the foil

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officer correct I don't see them under

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your budgets she is identified as the

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records access officer okay um that is

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yeah that's the foil officer um that's

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it's the same person she's been doing it

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you know over 20 years um yeah right and

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then also you mention judgment and

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claims I'm sorry did you mention

493
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judgment and claims yes yes so are you

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talking about A1 1930 let me go back

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[Music]

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here on page

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16 on which page I have page page 16

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1930 let's just turn to that

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page

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at the bottom those are a judgment and

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claims that we pay so that would be not

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that's not the revenue scream that I was

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I was referring to the revenue screen

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the Judgment that we would be receiving

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00:28:40,679 --> 00:28:45,919
thank you um that was from our

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prosecution of um some property

507
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maintenance code violations on multiple

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properties thank you yep go ahead uh Mr

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C I think you mentioned briefly just the

510
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usage of par legals was that accurate

511
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the say the usage of legals in your off

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so yeah um that's a good thing to bring

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up um the uh record access officer and

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the

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um code enforcement Specialists were

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both paral leals previously um they have

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their paralal degrees um they have these

518
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specialized positions now um obviously

519
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:28,039
the confidential secretary works on

520
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property sales quite a bit um she's not

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a

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paralal um you

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00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:37,440
know obviously you know I would ideally

524
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like to staff the Law Department with

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00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:44,960
attorneys right that's you know that's

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00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:47,399
the goal um short of that you know I

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00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:51,960
think having another person who has a

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legal background a paral for example um

529
00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:57,600
who has that experience potentially

530
00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:59,880
doing real estate work um something like

531
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:02,679
that would obviously be helpful in most

532
00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,360
law firms paralegals do the closings you

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don't necessarily have an attorney doing

534
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it we don't have anybody currently who

535
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:14,760
can do that which is why generally I do

536
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the closings uh Mr Marty does a few U

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generally that's

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[Music]

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me that being said the person who fills

540
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the confidential secretary position you

541
00:30:22,519 --> 00:30:28,120
know she's the person who's scheduling

542
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closings um clearing a lot of the title

543
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exceptions doing a lot of the scheduling

544
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and um you know making copies and you

545
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know really handling the communication

546
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with the outside attorney the real

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estate agent once it comes to us um and

548
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then the folks that we order searches

549
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from thank

550
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:54,200
you C go ahead please so being that um

551
00:30:52,159 --> 00:30:56,240
trying to fill these two positions are

552
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so is that

553
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:01,519
uh how how does that Rel to like someone

554
00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:03,559
outside

555
00:31:01,519 --> 00:31:05,919
Council fees that we're that we're

556
00:31:03,559 --> 00:31:09,840
paying for outside Council so that's a

557
00:31:05,919 --> 00:31:13,240
good question um so generally when the

558
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city a lawsuit somebody sues the city um

559
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:17,399
our insurance requires Us in most

560
00:31:15,399 --> 00:31:20,200
instances where our insur whenever our

561
00:31:17,399 --> 00:31:25,039
insurance is covering whatever the claim

562
00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:28,320
is um they hire outside councel um we

563
00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:31,159
don't pay for that that's part of our

564
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:34,279
coverage um we do turn to outside

565
00:31:31,159 --> 00:31:36,399
Council when things are specialized

566
00:31:34,279 --> 00:31:38,919
obviously you know there are attorneys

567
00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:40,960
who do things that we don't do um or

568
00:31:38,919 --> 00:31:44,080
have more experience and then there's a

569
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:49,440
question of capacity do we have the time

570
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:51,639
uh to um handle a particular uh you know

571
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,000
some type of legal activity um is it

572
00:31:51,639 --> 00:31:55,559
going to be too time consuming do we

573
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,480
have that capacity um a lot of it is

574
00:31:55,559 --> 00:31:59,440
going to have to be for that that

575
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:01,960
question there is a judgment call based

576
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:04,840
on our staffing at the time what we have

577
00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:06,519
going on some you know some days are

578
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:08,360
obviously better than others in terms of

579
00:32:06,519 --> 00:32:10,720
what we have on our plates but as you

580
00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:13,840
know you know things can like legal

581
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:16,880
conundrums can arise very quickly um we

582
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:21,000
do maintain some outside Council that we

583
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:24,679
use um you know it could be something

584
00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:26,840
along the lines of looking at um we

585
00:32:24,679 --> 00:32:28,720
we've modified the city code at times uh

586
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:30,840
we did it not you know I think a couple

587
00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:33,240
years ago I recall with related to

588
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:35,080
vacant buildings the city council took

589
00:32:33,240 --> 00:32:37,720
action but part of that was working with

590
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:39,679
outside Council who you know have worked

591
00:32:37,720 --> 00:32:42,639
in other municipalities to craft

592
00:32:39,679 --> 00:32:44,639
something that works that makes sense so

593
00:32:42,639 --> 00:32:46,760
we wanted to really I think lean on

594
00:32:44,639 --> 00:32:48,000
their expertise so we use outside

595
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:50,679
counsil

596
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:53,080
that so

597
00:32:50,679 --> 00:32:54,720
essentially once positions are filled

598
00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:56,279
then we can expect to see a decrease in

599
00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,279
what we're doing with outside counsel I

600
00:32:56,279 --> 00:33:00,440
think ideally that would be correct yeah

601
00:32:58,279 --> 00:33:04,279
you know it's a most of the time it's a

602
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:07,480
question of capacity um and every so

603
00:33:04,279 --> 00:33:09,399
often it's a question of expertise right

604
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,519
the special yeah the specialization of

605
00:33:09,399 --> 00:33:12,519
that particular area of

606
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,720
law any other question for

607
00:33:17,919 --> 00:33:22,440
Mr see thank you very much

608
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:32,799
you we will jump to development and that

609
00:33:30,440 --> 00:33:37,240
is on

610
00:33:32,799 --> 00:33:37,240
page 4

611
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,600
46 and we will

612
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:47,480
have page

613
00:33:52,039 --> 00:34:01,360
46 so for the development

614
00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:04,080
department to codes 88 8686 to

615
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:07,879
8687 propos budget for

616
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:10,919
2024 at 930,000

617
00:34:07,879 --> 00:34:18,000
CL63 our budget for

618
00:34:10,919 --> 00:34:21,240
2023 was 833 8 33,6 55 and look at

619
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:24,520
approximately 8%

620
00:34:21,240 --> 00:34:28,879
increase and uh total proposed budget

621
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:28,879
fills are 11 positions

622
00:34:39,000 --> 00:34:47,679
did you also cover Community Development

623
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:47,679
yes that's uh 8686 8687

624
00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:57,200
okay a brief what's happening in the

625
00:34:52,399 --> 00:35:00,320
department okay um currently we are we

626
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:02,440
have Staffing that is presented in the

627
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:04,680
the budget but we are down staff right

628
00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:07,680
now in the development department which

629
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:09,839
um puts our capacity in Jeopardy right

630
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:12,560
now we lost since this budget was

631
00:35:09,839 --> 00:35:14,839
presented we lost the planner um we have

632
00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:17,960
a open position for a Community

633
00:35:14,839 --> 00:35:19,839
Development supervisor and a new role

634
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:23,040
which is the Community Development

635
00:35:19,839 --> 00:35:25,760
Associate we did hire and need um

636
00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:28,839
currently a part-time position to handle

637
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:32,359
our home funding to specialize in that

638
00:35:28,839 --> 00:35:35,200
particular um Federal program that we

639
00:35:32,359 --> 00:35:38,280
monitor but right now um the priority of

640
00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:41,160
the department as I am assessing and

641
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:43,560
trying to uh identify the gaps within

642
00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:45,920
the department is building our capacity

643
00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:50,160
and making sure that we have full staff

644
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:50,160
so that we can um execute

645
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:00,280
efficiently and that will cover that

646
00:35:58,240 --> 00:36:03,440
cover both development Administration

647
00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:05,960
and also Community Development yes okay

648
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:07,560
go ahead please could you just identify

649
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,960
I mean some of them is clear based on

650
00:36:07,560 --> 00:36:11,599
what you said could you identify

651
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,960
specifically the um openings that you

652
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:17,640
have that are showing in the budget

653
00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:19,079
please yes um 86 86100 the planner one

654
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:22,560
or senior

655
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:24,560
planner okay is open or development and

656
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:27,400
for Community Development we have the

657
00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:29,920
Community Development supervisor which

658
00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:32,319
we um the planner and the supervisor

659
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:36,280
role are both posted and we do have

660
00:36:32,319 --> 00:36:38,680
roughly um 13 applicants that we will be

661
00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:41,560
reviewing for the supervisor role in the

662
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:43,720
coming weeks um the new role that is on

663
00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:46,760
here that is not posted I am working

664
00:36:43,720 --> 00:36:48,760
with HR to redefine that job description

665
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,960
now that I'm in place I can really

666
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:53,440
understand what the department needs and

667
00:36:50,960 --> 00:36:56,200
it's really a a role that will have a

668
00:36:53,440 --> 00:36:58,079
little bit of everybody's kind of job in

669
00:36:56,200 --> 00:37:00,000
there for call cross training because

670
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:02,839
right now the department if we lose

671
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:04,880
somebody we lose the skill set and we it

672
00:37:02,839 --> 00:37:07,760
puts us 10 steps behind what all the

673
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:10,119
transitioning that has occurred so um

674
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:13,960
it's going to be imperative to get that

675
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:16,079
job description as close to Accurate as

676
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:17,560
possible to kind of be able to cross

677
00:37:16,079 --> 00:37:19,640
train with some of the other um

678
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:22,040
positions so the Community Development

679
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:25,000
supervisor and the Community Development

680
00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:25,000
assistant is okay

681
00:37:25,160 --> 00:37:30,160
there and

682
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,160
and the

683
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:35,680
plan please so on the this lead

684
00:37:33,960 --> 00:37:38,800
inspector risk

685
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:41,040
assessor um so there's that that

686
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:44,280
position is filled currently that

687
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:47,800
position is filled um she currently does

688
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:50,319
all of the lead for the home Initiative

689
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:53,319
Program and she runs the lead program

690
00:37:50,319 --> 00:37:57,079
that we um contract out to the county so

691
00:37:53,319 --> 00:37:58,680
she does the the the the our Le program

692
00:37:57,079 --> 00:38:01,160
and the lead that is with the home

693
00:37:58,680 --> 00:38:04,800
initiatives that our home ownership

694
00:38:01,160 --> 00:38:08,160
coordinator manages okay um so I say see

695
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:10,319
there's a significant increase there yes

696
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:13,400
I would have to get you more information

697
00:38:10,319 --> 00:38:15,800
Madam uh president because I'm not privy

698
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:18,240
um to the reasons behind the increase

699
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:20,119
okay if you would thank you I believe I

700
00:38:18,240 --> 00:38:21,599
believe uh the increase is due to the

701
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:24,400
fact that

702
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:27,920
the I believe in 2024 the state's going

703
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,599
to mandate a our Le speci to uh all

704
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:33,240
projects to be led

705
00:38:29,599 --> 00:38:35,440
inspected and what we our plan and the

706
00:38:33,240 --> 00:38:38,000
reason why we give this extra boost as I

707
00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:40,200
recall there correct me if I'm wrong was

708
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:42,319
that she was going to be training uh uh

709
00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:45,319
some of our our code enforcement

710
00:38:42,319 --> 00:38:46,319
officers uh because uh and like I says

711
00:38:45,319 --> 00:38:48,520
in New York state is going to be

712
00:38:46,319 --> 00:38:51,000
mandated that everything will be led

713
00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:53,960
inspected so she's going to also be a

714
00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:55,760
trainer for them because she has I think

715
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,150
probably almost eight nine years of

716
00:38:55,760 --> 00:38:58,480
experience already

717
00:38:57,150 --> 00:39:01,119
[Music]

718
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:03,400
so that's our plan for future

719
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:06,599
idea so is this the civil service

720
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:08,119
position yes it is is that particular

721
00:39:06,599 --> 00:39:10,760
Duty within

722
00:39:08,119 --> 00:39:13,000
that position

723
00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:14,720
currently like being a trainer is that

724
00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:17,599
part of that what's currently in there

725
00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:20,240
we'll take a look at it we trying to do

726
00:39:17,599 --> 00:39:22,440
it so that we can help our city at least

727
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,599
possible cost you know understood but I

728
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:25,839
just want to make sure it's within the

729
00:39:23,599 --> 00:39:27,800
duty because if it's not then I'm not

730
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:29,359
sure if this is how we necessarily hand

731
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,880
because I know in other departments when

732
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:33,359
people do things that are not within

733
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:36,319
their job description and they pay them

734
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:38,000
so out of class payers a yeah well this

735
00:39:36,319 --> 00:39:39,920
this is something like that you know

736
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:41,960
that's why would increase their salary I

737
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:45,280
mean this is something we we she spoke

738
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:47,119
we all spoke about so I will definitely

739
00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,359
take a look at it thank you for

740
00:39:47,119 --> 00:39:52,720
mentioning that thank

741
00:39:49,359 --> 00:39:58,319
you can can we go through um Feast for

742
00:39:52,720 --> 00:40:02,160
service line and explain um what that

743
00:39:58,319 --> 00:40:04,520
comprise uh the biggest the biggest uh

744
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:07,160
as I recall dere one of the biggest

745
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:10,760
things in there is actually uh uh to do

746
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:14,640
with the tree program that uh Kristen

747
00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:18,920
had developed as we' seen uh 140 and 23

748
00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:21,480
and the 160 not uh not that that that's

749
00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:25,760
not just for trees but it's also for our

750
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:27,119
uh Sue uh Sue lomard Su Lombardi who's

751
00:40:25,760 --> 00:40:30,200
our uh

752
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:33,160
grant grant writer and manager so you

753
00:40:30,200 --> 00:40:35,280
know she's helping us on the with the

754
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:39,880
the comprehensive plan for this year too

755
00:40:35,280 --> 00:40:43,400
so it's a a basic uh uh strategy with

756
00:40:39,880 --> 00:40:47,160
paying her and the big cost for 2023 and

757
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:50,440
24 is uh with the tree service that uh

758
00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:53,280
uh Kristen had worked

759
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:55,560
on the tree service the tree you know

760
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:58,280
there that tree program so you're paying

761
00:40:55,560 --> 00:41:00,920
those you're paying that organization

762
00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,319
those organizations

763
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:05,839
correct thank you Mr

764
00:41:03,319 --> 00:41:09,400
Williams Oh you asked answer my question

765
00:41:05,839 --> 00:41:11,920
well if I may uh I was going to ask is

766
00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:14,240
that figure the increase of $20,000 for

767
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:16,359
the fees for service anywhere reflectant

768
00:41:14,240 --> 00:41:19,160
of those two vacancies so now that

769
00:41:16,359 --> 00:41:23,520
you're fing applicants is that going to

770
00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:27,920
offset that increase no definitely

771
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:31,839
not that's a question

772
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:35,760
any other question for the Department

773
00:41:31,839 --> 00:41:37,880
of St thank you very much one question

774
00:41:35,760 --> 00:41:40,040
might not even be necessary but I'm just

775
00:41:37,880 --> 00:41:42,640
I'm curious as that that lead inspector

776
00:41:40,040 --> 00:41:46,520
recycles that say it again so so lead

777
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:48,599
inspector um is there a certain uh

778
00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,400
certification that that you have to to

779
00:41:48,599 --> 00:41:53,880
do that corre yes you right right right

780
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:57,520
so I was okay

781
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:59,680
so are we looking to to do that those

782
00:41:57,520 --> 00:42:01,599
same certifications for all our our our

783
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:03,920
code enforce will have to be

784
00:42:01,599 --> 00:42:05,280
certified and our what we're thinking is

785
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,440
she'll be able to train them so when

786
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:09,240
they go for certification they have you

787
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,440
know they they'll pass it the first shot

788
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:15,359
you know that's that's our hope

789
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:17,800
yeah that seems like a pretty good idea

790
00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:20,200
they to save us some money going know

791
00:42:17,800 --> 00:42:22,920
that that makes sense that's that's

792
00:42:20,200 --> 00:42:25,800
something hope it works out

793
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:28,040
okay any other questions okay thank you

794
00:42:25,800 --> 00:42:30,720
thank you

795
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:33,280
okay we'll go back up and get back to

796
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:33,280
our regular

797
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:42,160
schedule we go to city

798
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:42,160
clerk sorry

799
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:51,000
no city council

800
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:55,160
I just a quick uh review city council

801
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:57,599
81 24os budget

802
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:02,040
163,000

803
00:42:57,599 --> 00:43:05,040
uh budget the same amount so a

804
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:05,040
0%

805
00:43:05,599 --> 00:43:09,000
increase any a

806
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:15,839
question no question on city council

807
00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:19,400
just increase come on I just want to

808
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:21,880
mention that we included again in 2024

809
00:43:19,400 --> 00:43:23,880
the outside legal services that you were

810
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:24,839
looking for last year weting also put it

811
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:27,839
in for

812
00:43:24,839 --> 00:43:30,079
2024 actually

813
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:33,040
oh I'm going to look it

814
00:43:30,079 --> 00:43:35,079
up go ahead please um I thought that we

815
00:43:33,040 --> 00:43:37,119
had um put in for a request for an

816
00:43:35,079 --> 00:43:39,319
increase for the city council I don't

817
00:43:37,119 --> 00:43:42,400
see reflected

818
00:43:39,319 --> 00:43:45,960
here for the City Council salaries

819
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:45,960
excuse me stiens they not

820
00:43:47,800 --> 00:43:55,040
Sal he's looking down there it's my

821
00:43:51,079 --> 00:43:57,040
budget that I submit to you and that I

822
00:43:55,040 --> 00:44:00,119
had asked council members if they wanted

823
00:43:57,040 --> 00:44:02,079
anything included it was only a response

824
00:44:00,119 --> 00:44:04,720
for some of the stuff that music

825
00:44:02,079 --> 00:44:06,000
gave so as he said that he asked City

826
00:44:04,720 --> 00:44:08,559
Council Members to move on anything

827
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:12,040
including the response he got from um

828
00:44:08,559 --> 00:44:13,200
Miss uh Miss Patrick however we' put it

829
00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:15,079
through the clerk's office because

830
00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:18,040
that's where our our thing came to the

831
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:19,800
request through the clerk's office so we

832
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:21,480
did request it was there was a request

833
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:24,319
it was to the clerk's office because

834
00:44:21,480 --> 00:44:27,440
that's what where our budget is showing

835
00:44:24,319 --> 00:44:31,040
up okay but departments make requests to

836
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:31,960
me and I have to submit a budget well I

837
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,119
understand that but initially you said

838
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,880
it's because we didn't say anything to

839
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:37,040
you so I'm just explain that yes in fact

840
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:41,200
that did happen okay so you're saying

841
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:44,920
that you you took it out correct thank

842
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:48,680
you any additional question this okay

843
00:44:44,920 --> 00:44:48,680
see none we'll move to the mayor's

844
00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:57,960
office okay mayor's office 81 10 24 bu

845
00:44:55,800 --> 00:45:02,440
get 368,000

846
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:04,559
313 the adopted 2023 budget was

847
00:45:02,440 --> 00:45:07,640
6368

848
00:45:04,559 --> 00:45:11,559
669 0%

849
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:14,800
increase and that osed uh 24 budget that

850
00:45:11,559 --> 00:45:14,800
fills our

851
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,559
positions any

852
00:45:23,599 --> 00:45:29,440
question have a question go ahead please

853
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:31,400
um so uh in the mayor's office um

854
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,520
there's a administrative assistance to

855
00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:34,460
the mayor and there's an increase of

856
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,160
about

857
00:45:34,460 --> 00:45:40,520
[Music]

858
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:44,640
11.65% so I was wondering um about that

859
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:47,800
position of that's a significant

860
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:52,240
increase and when the individual was

861
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:54,640
fired uh that was the salary to bring

862
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:56,319
them over did not give any salary

863
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:59,040
increase going forward so that's what

864
00:45:56,319 --> 00:46:00,920
they're being paid now this is what

865
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:01,559
they're currently being paid out of your

866
00:46:00,920 --> 00:46:05,280
uh

867
00:46:01,559 --> 00:46:07,720
hiring recruitment there was extra money

868
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:11,640
in the line item so I have not used it

869
00:46:07,720 --> 00:46:15,720
out of the incentive l so the approved

870
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:17,319
budget last year was this 57 390 and so

871
00:46:15,720 --> 00:46:18,480
I'm not clear so when you hired them you

872
00:46:17,319 --> 00:46:20,880
hired them at the

873
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,880
64

874
00:46:20,880 --> 00:46:25,200
correct and that did not come out of

875
00:46:22,880 --> 00:46:27,040
your recruitment budget it did no it did

876
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:31,119
not it could there was money in that

877
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:33,119
line where it was vacant so for the

878
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:34,319
accounting we could take it out of the

879
00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:37,720
other line and then there would be a

880
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:41,599
surplus in the other line it's just

881
00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:44,040
carried in the one existing submitted to

882
00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:48,480
you and this is a very new higher is

883
00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:52,319
that correct correct thank

884
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:52,319
you and the other

885
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:57,440
questions um yeah just one of the the

886
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:59,800
director operations is that a 4%

887
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:03,880
increase as well or is that higher than

888
00:46:59,800 --> 00:47:07,160
that 4% that's 4% should be should be 4%

889
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:10,599
all the rest would be 4% thank

890
00:47:07,160 --> 00:47:10,599
you any other

891
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:19,160
questions oh yeah I The Innovation and

892
00:47:15,880 --> 00:47:23,440
performance specialist is that position

893
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:23,440
filled is not but we're

894
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:30,160
actively recruiting and interviewing

895
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:33,760
thank

896
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:37,520
you I just want to point out U request

897
00:47:33,760 --> 00:47:40,160
for the vacancies there is a document in

898
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:42,280
your package justable the

899
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:44,880
vacancies thank you yeah we'll go

900
00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:48,480
through the questions

901
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:51,400
then and the answers okay so let's move

902
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,520
on to the Clark's department and that is

903
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,720
on

904
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:57,720
page

905
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:57,720
six

906
00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:10,640
city clerk the 2024 proposed budget

907
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:19,400
39433 the adoped budget since 316 215

908
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:21,760
with a 4% increase and this is the total

909
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,760
six

910
00:48:23,079 --> 00:48:27,680
positions that's Mel you want to wel

911
00:48:26,119 --> 00:48:30,400
anything that we need to

912
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:32,760
know any openings that you have there we

913
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:34,559
do the uh Deputy registar is still open

914
00:48:32,760 --> 00:48:36,480
it hasn't gone through Civil Service yet

915
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,119
in order to get someone tested so we can

916
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,520
put them in

917
00:48:38,119 --> 00:48:42,760
position the unfortunate thing is with

918
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:45,240
civil service it you hire somebody

919
00:48:42,760 --> 00:48:48,280
provisionally and they don't pass maybe

920
00:48:45,240 --> 00:48:50,559
one or two times we train somebody and

921
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:53,119
then we' have to fire them even if

922
00:48:50,559 --> 00:48:56,240
they're performing

923
00:48:53,119 --> 00:48:57,720
well so you're entally I'm sorry move

924
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:59,160
there go ahead please so you're

925
00:48:57,720 --> 00:49:00,880
essentially waiting for a list so the

926
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,119
people are qualified for the test to

927
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,040
come out for the test to come out the

928
00:49:02,119 --> 00:49:05,040
test hasn't come out

929
00:49:09,079 --> 00:49:15,040
yeah goe my other question is um has

930
00:49:12,359 --> 00:49:17,960
your office taken on any additional

931
00:49:15,040 --> 00:49:22,559
duties um we have taken on additional

932
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:26,119
duties um we now have to uh with the

933
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:29,520
state we we now have efficient license

934
00:49:26,119 --> 00:49:32,559
that we um are selling so anyone that

935
00:49:29,520 --> 00:49:35,960
has a friend that wants to you

936
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:38,440
know be the efficient in their wedding

937
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:42,680
oh they can come get a license with us a

938
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:42,680
one day efficient license fishing

939
00:49:48,599 --> 00:49:54,720
license married you enjoy expect going

940
00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:57,040
fish a lot more you throw in a fishing

941
00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:59,599
license when

942
00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:59,599
not no not

943
00:50:00,720 --> 00:50:06,240
anymore um we've also taken on with the

944
00:50:03,839 --> 00:50:08,640
office of can cannabis management we

945
00:50:06,240 --> 00:50:10,520
have the uh 30-day notice to the

946
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:12,880
municipalities so we're getting those

947
00:50:10,520 --> 00:50:15,640
coming in um during the year we passed

948
00:50:12,880 --> 00:50:18,000
legislation where um the zoning officer

949
00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:21,000
has to file all her forms with

950
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,000
us

951
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:28,280
and I think that's think right

952
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:35,640
now are any

953
00:50:33,559 --> 00:50:38,680
questions

954
00:50:35,640 --> 00:50:43,119
comments okay seeing

955
00:50:38,680 --> 00:50:43,119
none we'll move on who wants to go

956
00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:50,880
first

957
00:50:46,599 --> 00:50:54,440
okay we'll go to fire department and

958
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:57,440
that is on page

959
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,440
25o

960
00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:07,760
please everyone know our new assistant

961
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:10,720
chief George

962
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:13,160
FS so just a quick summary for the fire

963
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:15,680
department uh the account codes are a

964
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:20,920
3410 to a

965
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:26,359
3415 the 24 control budget 14 million

966
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:29,960
31846 in 2023 adopted budget of 12,8

967
00:51:26,359 --> 00:51:34,160
9,48 we're looking at a 10% increase

968
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:36,839
from the 2023 adoped to the 24 proposed

969
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:37,900
uh the proposed budget in approximately

970
00:51:36,839 --> 00:51:41,039
126

971
00:51:37,900 --> 00:51:41,039
[Music]

972
00:51:43,319 --> 00:51:50,200
positions you want questions thank you

973
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:52,520
you're not going you think come on just

974
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:52,520
want give

975
00:51:52,880 --> 00:52:00,480
us um so

976
00:51:57,280 --> 00:52:02,160
according to my summary U the 2024

977
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:06,760
budget is 1.3

978
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:08,920
million ler than uh

979
00:52:06,760 --> 00:52:12,119
2023 I have

980
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:16,240
99.2% of that

981
00:52:12,119 --> 00:52:19,760
8.78% which is 1.2 million plus is due

982
00:52:16,240 --> 00:52:22,480
to contractual salary

983
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:25,920
increases uh which leaves us

984
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:30,880
approximately $60,000 or less than a

985
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:32,599
half half a perc increase in

986
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:36,040
operations

987
00:52:32,599 --> 00:52:39,200
um we currently have seven openings due

988
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:40,880
to vacancies retired vacancies created

989
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:44,240
by

990
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:47,000
retired uh we

991
00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:50,040
have I'm sorry how many vacancies seven

992
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:54,240
seven vacancies due to retirements in

993
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:56,640
2024 we're anticipating six more

994
00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:00,040
retirements currently we have some

995
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:05,319
long-term openings uh

996
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:10,839
three due to uh longterm set two to to

997
00:53:05,319 --> 00:53:15,720
207a injuries on a job and one we of

998
00:53:10,839 --> 00:53:18,440
absence so that that's a total of

999
00:53:15,720 --> 00:53:21,760
um with the seven vacancies and the Six

1000
00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:24,400
coming that's 13 positions and then the

1001
00:53:21,760 --> 00:53:26,520
uh the lead of absence which I'm not

1002
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,760
certain that person be coming back or

1003
00:53:26,520 --> 00:53:34,599
not I tend to believe he won't be coming

1004
00:53:29,760 --> 00:53:39,240
back so we have 14s so we are uh we're

1005
00:53:34,599 --> 00:53:39,240
going to attempt to hire 14 in

1006
00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:47,760
202 uh in 2024 we're going to hire as

1007
00:53:44,440 --> 00:53:50,480
many paramedics as we can uh and also

1008
00:53:47,760 --> 00:53:52,599
we're going to hire four unts going to

1009
00:53:50,480 --> 00:53:55,720
be the first time that we're we're doing

1010
00:53:52,599 --> 00:53:57,599
that and with that

1011
00:53:55,720 --> 00:54:00,000
C some additional costs you have to send

1012
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:03,040
them not only to the fire academy but

1013
00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:05,920
also to Hudson Valley for paramedic

1014
00:54:03,040 --> 00:54:09,480
school and with the emps that's going to

1015
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:11,440
be a a long term before you see any

1016
00:54:09,480 --> 00:54:13,799
return on your investment that's about a

1017
00:54:11,440 --> 00:54:13,799
year and a

1018
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,839
half

1019
00:54:18,839 --> 00:54:24,200
else well I want to just be clear that

1020
00:54:21,839 --> 00:54:27,520
we have modified the collective arming

1021
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:30,319
agreement with local 28 to reduce the

1022
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:32,280
salary those individuals coming in so

1023
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:35,640
they because they're not fully skilled

1024
00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:39,000
paramedics so that that differentiation

1025
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:42,440
in the salary will compensate for those

1026
00:54:39,000 --> 00:54:42,440
increased expenses in the

1027
00:54:43,079 --> 00:54:49,960
training and schooling too right

1028
00:54:47,680 --> 00:54:52,520
yes okay I think I think you kind of

1029
00:54:49,960 --> 00:54:54,640
answer my question um it was around so

1030
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:57,040
is there anything for like we are hiring

1031
00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:59,400
people on as EMTs which I think is

1032
00:54:57,040 --> 00:55:03,119
really I'm sorry I said we're hiring

1033
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:04,599
people on as EMTs and um sending them

1034
00:55:03,119 --> 00:55:07,160
the school is they're like so the

1035
00:55:04,599 --> 00:55:10,079
agreement that they have to stay on uh

1036
00:55:07,160 --> 00:55:12,640
for a certain amount of time in order to

1037
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:15,119
um receive that benefit or would they is

1038
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:17,559
there any type of lack of a better ter

1039
00:55:15,119 --> 00:55:19,599
kind of clawb say so we come here and

1040
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:21,160
invest all this time into somebody

1041
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:23,079
training them get their imp medic and

1042
00:55:21,160 --> 00:55:24,520
then they go I don't know anyone

1043
00:55:23,079 --> 00:55:25,720
whatever police connect to me but they

1044
00:55:24,520 --> 00:55:27,480
decide that they want to do that for

1045
00:55:25,720 --> 00:55:29,079
some reason is there like a window

1046
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:31,520
period where they would be responsible

1047
00:55:29,079 --> 00:55:34,839
to pay uh whatever tuition reimbursement

1048
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:38,640
that absolutely so we have a a sliding

1049
00:55:34,839 --> 00:55:41,520
scale if they leave the first year then

1050
00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:44,760
they're going to be uh responsible to

1051
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:47,640
pay back the city for a certain amounty

1052
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,720
second year third year four year okay

1053
00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:51,359
thank

1054
00:55:48,720 --> 00:55:55,960
you go ahead please I just have one

1055
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:57,960
question on um line 3415

1056
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:59,200
and I was just wondering um and I'm

1057
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:01,039
thinking maybe you might have shifted it

1058
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,640
to a different line but it looks like

1059
00:56:01,039 --> 00:56:05,720
we're eliminating the position and I

1060
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:08,440
just want no let me make sure I know

1061
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:11,640
what you're it's um it's the deputy

1062
00:56:08,440 --> 00:56:15,039
chief on the hazard hazardous materials

1063
00:56:11,640 --> 00:56:18,039
15 it's on page um

1064
00:56:15,039 --> 00:56:20,640
30 um and it's the deputy chief you have

1065
00:56:18,039 --> 00:56:26,920
for hazardous materials okay yeah so we

1066
00:56:20,640 --> 00:56:26,920
just put him in um maybe in another line

1067
00:56:28,480 --> 00:56:33,200
Emergency Medical Service fire training

1068
00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:37,200
no sorry

1069
00:56:33,200 --> 00:56:40,240
that I just that's that's good I just so

1070
00:56:37,200 --> 00:56:43,680
we just accounting for a minute we did

1071
00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:46,319
not eliminate that thank

1072
00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:49,599
you under

1073
00:56:46,319 --> 00:56:52,319
preventions he was in has and now we're

1074
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:55,200
going to all count for him in fire train

1075
00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:57,480
yeah okay that's right okay that that is

1076
00:56:55,200 --> 00:56:57,480
his

1077
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:04,640
position thank

1078
00:57:02,839 --> 00:57:07,319
you

1079
00:57:04,640 --> 00:57:10,559
done so how many firefighters did we had

1080
00:57:07,319 --> 00:57:13,559
in 2003 in what

1081
00:57:10,559 --> 00:57:13,559
year3

1082
00:57:16,039 --> 00:57:22,880
2023 um so we're budgeted

1083
00:57:19,200 --> 00:57:27,200
for9 okay that's not including the chief

1084
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:31,520
Comm ass okay so 119 we have 112 on the

1085
00:57:27,200 --> 00:57:35,760
front line and seven in in Step

1086
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:38,880
St seven on on staff on staff right that

1087
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:43,640
includes our uh fire investigate fire

1088
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:44,680
investigation unit our um our uh

1089
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:48,880
Training

1090
00:57:44,680 --> 00:57:51,760
Division our Hazmat division so that's s

1091
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:55,720
that's for in those different divisions

1092
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:58,039
so you 112 are front line okay and so

1093
00:57:55,720 --> 00:58:00,480
this year I asked so were there were the

1094
00:57:58,039 --> 00:58:06,480
new firefighters that came on in

1095
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:06,480
2023 yes and how many was that I

1096
00:58:12,480 --> 00:58:20,520
believe we s in 2022 and we hired two oh

1097
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:20,520
okay thank

1098
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:29,839
you um so also for a

1099
00:58:25,599 --> 00:58:33,559
3410 for the public safety Foundation um

1100
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:36,160
could you just kind of give what kind of

1101
00:58:33,559 --> 00:58:40,240
activities are done for that that

1102
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:43,240
funding 3410 what's the up 3410

1103
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:43,240
402

1104
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:47,880
up

1105
00:58:45,000 --> 00:58:49,440
yep uh actually that's worked out pretty

1106
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:54,240
well we're able to do lot of good things

1107
00:58:49,440 --> 00:58:56,720
for that very grateful y um so for one

1108
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:59,720
part of it goes towards our fire

1109
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:03,119
prevention uh program that's where we

1110
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:06,319
purchase items for for the children the

1111
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:09,000
fire hats uh coloring books fire safety

1112
00:59:06,319 --> 00:59:11,760
equipment uh so when we go to an

1113
00:59:09,000 --> 00:59:15,079
event we bring those items and then

1114
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:19,440
we're able to get them out okay but also

1115
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:22,400
uh last year last year this year we made

1116
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:25,160
different donations to William Reus he

1117
00:59:22,400 --> 00:59:28,400
did several different uh

1118
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:31,440
community events that we were able to

1119
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:35,480
make a donation to that

1120
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:37,520
um the um food drive that was earlier

1121
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:41,440
this year we were able to make a

1122
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:43,599
donation towards that the um Easter on

1123
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:46,000
the hill we're able to make a donation

1124
00:59:43,599 --> 00:59:49,960
to that so the different community

1125
00:59:46,000 --> 00:59:49,960
events we're able to help

1126
00:59:51,000 --> 00:59:58,240
out go ahead please right and also on on

1127
00:59:54,359 --> 01:00:00,680
l 3411 1330 The Paramedic bonus it

1128
00:59:58,240 --> 01:00:02,880
doesn't say doesn't give us a number of

1129
01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:05,880
people

1130
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:05,880
3411

1131
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:16,119
13033 par bonus the

1132
01:00:19,559 --> 01:00:24,920
chief yep so we're all paramics okay so

1133
01:00:23,119 --> 01:00:27,240
everyone in the department get that it's

1134
01:00:24,920 --> 01:00:31,599
it's contractual thank

1135
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:31,599
you you say for management from

1136
01:00:32,960 --> 01:00:39,240
you that will change the Tad now when we

1137
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:41,039
hire they will not they will not receive

1138
01:00:39,240 --> 01:00:43,880
that

1139
01:00:41,039 --> 01:00:45,799
until they get their EMP card sorry

1140
01:00:43,880 --> 01:00:48,760
their paramedic card and I think it's

1141
01:00:45,799 --> 01:00:50,640
approximately a year after that before

1142
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:54,720
and

1143
01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:56,359
that's okay thank you go ahead please

1144
01:00:54,720 --> 01:00:58,319
before I begin Chief I just wanted to

1145
01:00:56,359 --> 01:01:00,240
say definitely congratulations on

1146
01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:02,039
putting into place that uh training

1147
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:03,839
program uh it's going to be

1148
01:01:02,039 --> 01:01:05,799
revolutionary and I'm definitely excited

1149
01:01:03,839 --> 01:01:08,079
to see how those dividends play for our

1150
01:01:05,799 --> 01:01:09,799
future I'm definitely trying to staff

1151
01:01:08,079 --> 01:01:13,599
that this department is important and

1152
01:01:09,799 --> 01:01:14,760
it's definitely the right step um for

1153
01:01:13,599 --> 01:01:19,160
line

1154
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:22,000
83411 406 in service training there is a

1155
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:23,799
considerable jump is that reflecting of

1156
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:26,599
having to invest more funds into those

1157
01:01:23,799 --> 01:01:29,960
training indiv ual or is that something

1158
01:01:26,599 --> 01:01:32,119
else 3411 what's the other

1159
01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:33,880
number a

1160
01:01:32,119 --> 01:01:37,240
341146 in

1161
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:40,039
service so yeah that that uh takes in

1162
01:01:37,240 --> 01:01:42,480
account sending the

1163
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:45,480
individuals and another question does

1164
01:01:42,480 --> 01:01:48,000
that reflect the four like is it uh per

1165
01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:49,920
student there is $110,000 or what does

1166
01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:52,039
that can you tell me again that

1167
01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:55,000
breakdown so you said we're investing in

1168
01:01:52,039 --> 01:01:56,599
four EMTs is there a cost Associated to

1169
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:59,599
their schooling like per dollar is it

1170
01:01:56,599 --> 01:02:03,119
$95 I believe it's six approximately and

1171
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:06,559
it could change approximately $6,000 per

1172
01:02:03,119 --> 01:02:09,720
student to go to to par school but then

1173
01:02:06,559 --> 01:02:13,079
there are other fees be it fees for the

1174
01:02:09,720 --> 01:02:16,240
college be it book

1175
01:02:13,079 --> 01:02:16,240
supplies thank

1176
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:27,760
you

1177
01:02:25,319 --> 01:02:27,760
any other

1178
01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:33,400
questions can I see almost what council

1179
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:35,640
William said when we met I was so

1180
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:38,440
excited about this program uh you know

1181
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:40,480
bring EMTs in and training them and did

1182
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:42,680
did you come up with that did you how

1183
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:46,559
did you hear about that you like the

1184
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:49,400
idea I love it there you go seriously

1185
01:02:46,559 --> 01:02:53,359
yeah so um hoping it works out and we

1186
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:56,520
continue to do that really yeah great

1187
01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:01,799
idea thank you Chief just walk us

1188
01:02:56,520 --> 01:03:01,799
through on the over time line a341

1189
01:03:02,400 --> 01:03:06,440
1212 last year we budgeted

1190
01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:15,039
860k and you're asking to POS this year

1191
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:17,079
1.57 we've been underestimating that

1192
01:03:15,039 --> 01:03:20,599
line for a

1193
01:03:17,079 --> 01:03:26,279
while uh this is what we feel is a true

1194
01:03:20,599 --> 01:03:26,279
and accurate figure based on D

1195
01:03:32,400 --> 01:03:39,319
experim over that is page page 28 I got

1196
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,350
it on I'm looking on the actual see what

1197
01:03:39,319 --> 01:03:43,409
the actual was

1198
01:03:40,350 --> 01:03:43,409
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1199
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:56,279
[Music]

1200
01:03:53,279 --> 01:03:56,279
today

1201
01:03:59,660 --> 01:04:02,880
[Music]

1202
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:09,279
this the day there I can't see this oh

1203
01:04:06,559 --> 01:04:14,440
yeah I don't see it we're missing that

1204
01:04:09,279 --> 01:04:17,520
34 12 342 3412 112 think I'm missing

1205
01:04:14,440 --> 01:04:20,400
that page it's going from 3411 to

1206
01:04:17,520 --> 01:04:23,200
3413 you can blame that on anony that's

1207
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:26,200
have nothing to do with

1208
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:26,200
me

1209
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,960
is this a double

1210
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:40,960
sided it's just curious year to date uh

1211
01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:40,960
it's uh 740,000 right now 740

1212
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:44,300
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1213
01:04:45,119 --> 01:04:49,920
yep you got remember that that is

1214
01:04:47,279 --> 01:04:52,440
through

1215
01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:55,760
September

1216
01:04:52,440 --> 01:04:58,599
that's that's I think September actually

1217
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:00,400
September so uh you know the biggest uh

1218
01:04:58,599 --> 01:05:03,000
fires and for overtime are going to

1219
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:04,799
happen September through December where

1220
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,839
everybody just plugs in extra heaters

1221
01:05:04,799 --> 01:05:10,559
and all that

1222
01:05:06,839 --> 01:05:13,240
stuff and we've been um because we're

1223
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:17,559
shorter we are asking our people to do

1224
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:20,440
more to cover cover the ships and

1225
01:05:17,559 --> 01:05:22,079
contract they able to when they get paid

1226
01:05:20,440 --> 01:05:24,839
they can take it all in pay or they can

1227
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:27,319
split it half pay half time

1228
01:05:24,839 --> 01:05:30,000
and because of the increased stress of

1229
01:05:27,319 --> 01:05:32,720
working more a lot more people now are

1230
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:34,680
taking the time off which creates more

1231
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:36,839
over

1232
01:05:34,680 --> 01:05:39,799
time back in the day when you didn't

1233
01:05:36,839 --> 01:05:42,839
have the over time you took the money

1234
01:05:39,799 --> 01:05:45,640
now they're able to do that split we

1235
01:05:42,839 --> 01:05:48,799
could always do the split but the trend

1236
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:53,160
is now more people take the time off the

1237
01:05:48,799 --> 01:05:59,319
actual expense in 2022 is 1.49 million

1238
01:05:53,160 --> 01:05:59,319
for ACT actual overtime expense 22 2020

1239
01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:05,799
2022 work we're expecting to be the same

1240
01:06:02,960 --> 01:06:07,559
this year not 1.5 that's we're looking

1241
01:06:05,799 --> 01:06:10,760
at 1.5 this

1242
01:06:07,559 --> 01:06:10,760
year oh

1243
01:06:10,920 --> 01:06:16,440
yeah can you provide us an updated

1244
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:19,599
report it's in here it's right here the

1245
01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:22,359
back back the back yeah he did looks

1246
01:06:19,599 --> 01:06:26,480
like an historical right for fire is

1247
01:06:22,359 --> 01:06:26,480
that what you over

1248
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:35,559
time I

1249
01:06:30,279 --> 01:06:35,559
thinkig right here it's like it's

1250
01:06:40,119 --> 01:06:45,489
a yeah

1251
01:06:42,310 --> 01:06:45,489
[Music]

1252
01:06:46,000 --> 01:06:52,440
yeah if not we can get get if you don't

1253
01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:54,559
have any up that yeah if you can update

1254
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:56,839
the pile for us can get that's a copy

1255
01:06:54,559 --> 01:06:58,880
back I would appreciate I don't yeah

1256
01:06:56,839 --> 01:07:01,200
that's fine probably just I know we have

1257
01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:04,319
it just like I have it we probably put

1258
01:07:01,200 --> 01:07:07,480
that pack I

1259
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:09,240
mistake yeah that's fine all right let's

1260
01:07:07,480 --> 01:07:12,920
move on

1261
01:07:09,240 --> 01:07:12,920
um any other

1262
01:07:17,079 --> 01:07:20,480
question talk about capital budget now

1263
01:07:19,400 --> 01:07:23,200
or

1264
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:25,760
no me capital budget do you talk about

1265
01:07:23,200 --> 01:07:27,880
that now or no we can if you're okay

1266
01:07:25,760 --> 01:07:30,440
with

1267
01:07:27,880 --> 01:07:32,880
it since we have okay with it yeah

1268
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:35,920
that's fine fine we can do it think

1269
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:38,039
since we have them here I'm back let's

1270
01:07:35,920 --> 01:07:41,839
get

1271
01:07:38,039 --> 01:07:41,839
over I think they have one

1272
01:07:42,559 --> 01:07:46,760
big be a good idea for to explain that

1273
01:07:45,119 --> 01:07:49,079
to you

1274
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:52,680
guys I

1275
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:55,960
think so the scbas those are

1276
01:07:52,680 --> 01:07:59,400
our our harnesses with our ear

1277
01:07:55,960 --> 01:08:00,839
bottles or we used to go into into

1278
01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,960
burning buildings in any other

1279
01:08:00,839 --> 01:08:07,000
environment that

1280
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:10,520
is but you can't bre right I'll continue

1281
01:08:07,000 --> 01:08:13,240
breing that they have a 10 year life on

1282
01:08:10,520 --> 01:08:17,560
them yeah and we

1283
01:08:13,240 --> 01:08:20,960
have I think October of 2024 they are at

1284
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:24,080
that end of what uh knowing this was

1285
01:08:20,960 --> 01:08:26,600
coming we tried to apply for a grant a

1286
01:08:24,080 --> 01:08:29,120
FEMA Grant and we were shut down rather

1287
01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:33,520
quickly because they said you do not

1288
01:08:29,120 --> 01:08:35,279
have uh a need absolutely have a need he

1289
01:08:33,520 --> 01:08:38,640
said no you don't have a critical need

1290
01:08:35,279 --> 01:08:39,640
critical need is that your equipment is

1291
01:08:38,640 --> 01:08:43,000
out of

1292
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:47,120
date okay so in October it'll be out of

1293
01:08:43,000 --> 01:08:48,799
date then we could apply for uh a grant

1294
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:50,319
but that is usually February March when

1295
01:08:48,799 --> 01:08:53,480
it comes out you don't hear anything

1296
01:08:50,319 --> 01:08:55,679
until whenever June July August it just

1297
01:08:53,480 --> 01:08:58,440
keeps pushing the back that will be

1298
01:08:55,679 --> 01:09:02,719
operating with equipment that is out of

1299
01:08:58,440 --> 01:09:06,279
dat um and then after if if you're

1300
01:09:02,719 --> 01:09:08,239
successful uh and it takes a while

1301
01:09:06,279 --> 01:09:11,080
before you get the money then you have

1302
01:09:08,239 --> 01:09:13,799
to order this stuff and that takes a

1303
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:17,440
while realistically you could be two

1304
01:09:13,799 --> 01:09:19,839
years out of dat um it was something I

1305
01:09:17,440 --> 01:09:24,239
was very uncomfortable with that's why I

1306
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:26,560
requested a capital budget 1.2 million

1307
01:09:24,239 --> 01:09:30,080
um is what we're asking for a little bit

1308
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:32,239
more than that uh we are looking into

1309
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:34,560
different things that could maybe tap

1310
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:36,560
that down a bit uh we're looking at

1311
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:39,920
leases if that's possible we're looking

1312
01:09:36,560 --> 01:09:41,520
at selling back our equipment to recoup

1313
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:43,920
some

1314
01:09:41,520 --> 01:09:46,560
um and we're looking to get the best

1315
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:51,799
price so hopefully it won't Fe that much

1316
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:54,960
and maybe you know a near million or but

1317
01:09:51,799 --> 01:09:58,000
we'll see how that goes uh we would like

1318
01:09:54,960 --> 01:10:01,440
to implement a program moving forward

1319
01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:03,840
where we replace these uh during their

1320
01:10:01,440 --> 01:10:07,480
life instead of waiting to attend yeah

1321
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:10,960
every three and the third year internal

1322
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:12,920
discussion now seems to think that maybe

1323
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:15,960
that's not as great an idea as we once

1324
01:10:12,920 --> 01:10:20,199
thought it was because the technology

1325
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:22,679
changes so maybe in you know you you buy

1326
01:10:20,199 --> 01:10:26,120
some in three in the third year and then

1327
01:10:22,679 --> 01:10:28,560
at six in the 2third here the technology

1328
01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:29,960
has changed and now you're stuck with

1329
01:10:28,560 --> 01:10:30,760
some stuff that doesn't equal what

1330
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,440
you're

1331
01:10:30,760 --> 01:10:35,760
buying so we would like to explore ways

1332
01:10:33,440 --> 01:10:38,360
of maybe budgeting I don't know if this

1333
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:41,520
works you budget every 3 and the third

1334
01:10:38,360 --> 01:10:45,080
years for a third and you put that money

1335
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:47,080
somewhere that you can in 10 years you

1336
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:50,000
have it just like now if I want to

1337
01:10:47,080 --> 01:10:52,320
purchase a new car ask my wife let's

1338
01:10:50,000 --> 01:10:55,000
budget it and she says no and I don't

1339
01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:55,920
get a new car but that's a differ St but

1340
01:10:55,000 --> 01:10:59,360
if you

1341
01:10:55,920 --> 01:11:03,120
can that's the idea so if you guys are

1342
01:10:59,360 --> 01:11:06,640
going to be my wife and tell me no that

1343
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:11,120
I go ahead please um

1344
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:16,120
so is so how many is this This 1.2 how

1345
01:11:11,120 --> 01:11:19,760
many Do It um how many cbas does that so

1346
01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:23,199
it would be 50 50 for the for the uh

1347
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:26,080
front line then 10 specialty units that

1348
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:29,920
go on our on our trucks on our ladder

1349
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:32,960
trucks they hook into uh a system where

1350
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:35,480
you can breath off uh while you're

1351
01:11:32,960 --> 01:11:39,600
operating on on the platform and then

1352
01:11:35,480 --> 01:11:41,600
two rapid intervention uh CBS which are

1353
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:44,159
different that's when if you have to go

1354
01:11:41,600 --> 01:11:46,679
in to get somebody that they don't have

1355
01:11:44,159 --> 01:11:49,400
enough air you can buddy breed with them

1356
01:11:46,679 --> 01:11:54,800
but it's a different cook up

1357
01:11:49,400 --> 01:11:56,960
so talk 62 different

1358
01:11:54,800 --> 01:11:59,400
so my followup question is just will you

1359
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:01,239
be applying for the FEMA Grant again in

1360
01:11:59,400 --> 01:12:03,120
other words like when the time comes

1361
01:12:01,239 --> 01:12:04,920
when it comes out in February March or

1362
01:12:03,120 --> 01:12:08,480
whatever you said you'd probably apply

1363
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:10,320
for that again and try again or if you

1364
01:12:08,480 --> 01:12:12,080
approve the capital budget then we don't

1365
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:12,800
have an urgent need that they won't look

1366
01:12:12,080 --> 01:12:15,960
at

1367
01:12:12,800 --> 01:12:18,239
it that that's the the Lima we're in oh

1368
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:21,000
so okay so because we'll buy these

1369
01:12:18,239 --> 01:12:22,639
immediately upon approving the budget

1370
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:26,679
the money will be available on April

1371
01:12:22,639 --> 01:12:30,679
then it takes time yeah I got you okay

1372
01:12:26,679 --> 01:12:33,760
but then when if we were to apply for a

1373
01:12:30,679 --> 01:12:36,199
Fant and they said you have you have

1374
01:12:33,760 --> 01:12:39,840
funding yeah we have funding so you

1375
01:12:36,199 --> 01:12:44,280
don't you don't apply now I mean you

1376
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:47,120
don't yeah yeah it force you into yeah

1377
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:50,159
um either go this Ro here or operating

1378
01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:53,639
with equipment that's out of date yeah

1379
01:12:50,159 --> 01:12:56,760
we we use our equipment pretty hard yeah

1380
01:12:53,639 --> 01:12:58,440
um you know the number of Pires we have

1381
01:12:56,760 --> 01:13:01,840
you can operate after 10 years but

1382
01:12:58,440 --> 01:13:01,840
that's not something I'm comforable

1383
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:09,880
with Chief how many you have now how

1384
01:13:06,199 --> 01:13:12,320
many units you have now we have 62 unit

1385
01:13:09,880 --> 01:13:14,639
yeah so we're just replacing what we

1386
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:18,159
have

1387
01:13:14,639 --> 01:13:18,159
okay any other

1388
01:13:18,719 --> 01:13:24,639
question okay chief you are all good

1389
01:13:22,840 --> 01:13:26,520
thank you very much thank you everybody

1390
01:13:24,639 --> 01:13:29,920
a good weekend thank you me

1391
01:13:26,520 --> 01:13:29,920
too and we

1392
01:13:33,080 --> 01:13:36,080
move

1393
01:13:37,120 --> 01:13:44,080
utilities p

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01:13:39,080 --> 01:13:47,170
11 here we goes with ch

1395
01:13:44,080 --> 01:13:47,170
[Music]

1396
01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:55,360
point

1397
01:13:50,920 --> 01:13:55,360
Thank Take Care thank you all

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thank

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01:13:59,440 --> 01:14:07,000
[Music]

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01:14:04,000 --> 01:14:07,000
you

1401
01:14:07,340 --> 01:14:11,719
[Music]

1402
01:14:08,719 --> 01:14:11,719
m

1403
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,280
sir

1404
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,880
yeah so they have different section here

1405
01:14:28,440 --> 01:14:34,199
so we'll go through one section at a

1406
01:14:30,880 --> 01:14:36,120
time unless you want me to do a summ

1407
01:14:34,199 --> 01:14:37,719
general a general summary for all them

1408
01:14:36,120 --> 01:14:42,199
and then you have a summary for all of

1409
01:14:37,719 --> 01:14:46,679
them yes okay I them off

1410
01:14:42,199 --> 01:14:51,719
okay all right so forties

1411
01:14:46,679 --> 01:14:56,360
ad2 we're proposing for the 24 budget

1412
01:14:51,719 --> 01:14:58,600
36547 the 23 buget

1413
01:14:56,360 --> 01:15:02,800
2,99 looking at a

1414
01:14:58,600 --> 01:15:07,840
75% increase in this three positions

1415
01:15:02,800 --> 01:15:11,800
um the utility sign and traffic 83310 to

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01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,800
a331 proposed budget of

1417
01:15:12,360 --> 01:15:21,360
79636 adopted budget 2023 762 817 that's

1418
01:15:17,080 --> 01:15:24,040
a 4% increase nine POS nine positions uh

1419
01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:27,960
the street lighting a

1420
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182 looking at 24 proposed budget

1421
01:15:27,960 --> 01:15:34,000
1.69 million the

1422
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:35,679
2023 uh was 2,2

1423
01:15:34,000 --> 01:15:41,520
2,771

1424
01:15:35,679 --> 01:15:45,960
350 um that's a 39% de there um central

1425
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:50,280
Communication a650 proposed budget 2024

1426
01:15:45,960 --> 01:15:52,199
60,000 2023 adopted budget 95,000 that's

1427
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:55,800
a 37%

1428
01:15:52,199 --> 01:15:59,719
decrease and we last one is Central date

1429
01:15:55,800 --> 01:16:01,159
of processing 1680 of the 24 proposed

1430
01:15:59,719 --> 01:16:05,199
budget

1431
01:16:01,159 --> 01:16:11,000
83412 the adopted 2023 budget

1432
01:16:05,199 --> 01:16:11,000
63984 it's a 27% increase that's six

1433
01:16:12,239 --> 01:16:18,679
positions good all right all over to you

1434
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:21,120
thank you Derek thank you ber you have

1435
01:16:18,679 --> 01:16:24,800
um charts outlining the differences

1436
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:28,600
between 24 and 23 for all the individual

1437
01:16:24,800 --> 01:16:30,760
line items um bring your attention to

1438
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:32,719
a620 Ton's

1439
01:16:30,760 --> 01:16:35,320
Administration there a couple plan

1440
01:16:32,719 --> 01:16:37,880
requirements in 2024 which will require

1441
01:16:35,320 --> 01:16:39,440
a change in um positions we're

1442
01:16:37,880 --> 01:16:42,199
recommending a change in positions

1443
01:16:39,440 --> 01:16:43,320
within this budget um we're proposing

1444
01:16:42,199 --> 01:16:45,560
adding an

1445
01:16:43,320 --> 01:16:48,719
ips3 uh and reducing one of the

1446
01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:51,880
full-time positions to a time period of

1447
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:55,080
of six months that we'll see within that

1448
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:55,080
um Pro

1449
01:16:55,400 --> 01:17:01,120
um let's see uh also there's uh uh due

1450
01:16:59,159 --> 01:17:05,280
to the plan retirements there's addition

1451
01:17:01,120 --> 01:17:08,639
of line items for unused vacation and um

1452
01:17:05,280 --> 01:17:12,000
sick bleed payoff and there's really no

1453
01:17:08,639 --> 01:17:15,400
other major increases or changes in um

1454
01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:19,770
the a61 overall did you say how many

1455
01:17:15,400 --> 01:17:22,000
have I did uh two two

1456
01:17:19,770 --> 01:17:24,639
[Music]

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01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,360
re

1458
01:17:24,639 --> 01:17:28,400
that's the whole

1459
01:17:26,360 --> 01:17:31,800
department pretty

1460
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:32,719
much what do that's the whole department

1461
01:17:31,800 --> 01:17:36,159
yeah

1462
01:17:32,719 --> 01:17:39,040
exactly it is but we' made uh um you

1463
01:17:36,159 --> 01:17:44,040
know recommendations to um make

1464
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:44,040
something um as seamless as possible of

1465
01:17:44,050 --> 01:17:47,760
[Music]

1466
01:17:45,239 --> 01:17:50,880
transition my hands up yeah go ahead

1467
01:17:47,760 --> 01:17:54,000
please follow me so um for the unus SI

1468
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:57,199
leave 119,000

1469
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:59,600
991 so that's for those two individuals

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01:17:57,199 --> 01:18:03,080
it is that will

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01:17:59,600 --> 01:18:05,440
be leaving

1472
01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:07,360
correct all right so I thought with sick

1473
01:18:05,440 --> 01:18:10,199
time is it sick time which is that you

1474
01:18:07,360 --> 01:18:12,880
can't carry over is a vacation or sick

1475
01:18:10,199 --> 01:18:15,040
you're limited on long time so that

1476
01:18:12,880 --> 01:18:17,239
we're under old rules oh you're under

1477
01:18:15,040 --> 01:18:20,840
the old rules and does this include you

1478
01:18:17,239 --> 01:18:22,679
as well it does for the retirement yeah

1479
01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:25,199
so question that I wish had been

1480
01:18:22,679 --> 01:18:26,520
answered years ago but here it is so as

1481
01:18:25,199 --> 01:18:28,480
I every year I asked you was there

1482
01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:31,120
someone else that would be you know we'

1483
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:33,280
be would be able to slide seamlessly

1484
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:36,040
into your position well like they said

1485
01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:37,560
uh within on the budget recommendations

1486
01:18:36,040 --> 01:18:40,239
that we've made there different

1487
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:43,679
positions that we've added and changed

1488
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:45,880
um to make this as seamless as possible

1489
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:49,440
um change over there still needs to be

1490
01:18:45,880 --> 01:18:51,719
somebody um you know that position of um

1491
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:53,480
signal superintendent is still in there

1492
01:18:51,719 --> 01:18:55,920
and it does need to be

1493
01:18:53,480 --> 01:18:59,600
um filled under my

1494
01:18:55,920 --> 01:19:04,120
um my feeling is it should continue and

1495
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:05,360
you know we're going to um um what to uh

1496
01:19:04,120 --> 01:19:07,480
replace that

1497
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:09,800
individual is that a is that a civil

1498
01:19:07,480 --> 01:19:11,760
service position it

1499
01:19:09,800 --> 01:19:13,920
is so we're going to be in the same

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01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:17,199
position where people have to test and

1501
01:19:13,920 --> 01:19:19,040
all that yeah you can hire people

1502
01:19:17,199 --> 01:19:20,719
provisionally are there any special

1503
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:23,120
licenses or anything that that go with

1504
01:19:20,719 --> 01:19:25,960
that I there's there's minimum require

1505
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:28,520
sure but no

1506
01:19:25,960 --> 01:19:31,159
Li thank

1507
01:19:28,520 --> 01:19:34,040
you any additional question on under

1508
01:19:31,159 --> 01:19:34,040
utilities

1509
01:19:34,480 --> 01:19:41,679
Administration okay let's move

1510
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:45,400
to here let's do um central

1511
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:45,400
Communication that is page

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01:19:48,280 --> 01:19:51,840
14 and that

1513
01:19:50,330 --> 01:19:58,320
[Music]

1514
01:19:51,840 --> 01:20:00,800
roll or 1650 1650 1650 okay 1650

1515
01:19:58,320 --> 01:20:03,239
um goes up and down you can look at the

1516
01:20:00,800 --> 01:20:06,480
chart in there uh one year it's up one

1517
01:20:03,239 --> 01:20:09,440
year it's down um the proposed amount is

1518
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:15,280
$60,000 which is actually a reduction of

1519
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:17,480
35,000 from um 23 um partially due to

1520
01:20:15,280 --> 01:20:19,440
the biannual maintenance thing we talked

1521
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:21,120
about before we pay every two years for

1522
01:20:19,440 --> 01:20:23,320
the maintenance we get a little discount

1523
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,679
so one year it's up one year it's down

1524
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:29,400
but we've also been able to uh reduce a

1525
01:20:25,679 --> 01:20:31,400
little more um based on our um fiber

1526
01:20:29,400 --> 01:20:35,159
plant installation that we've been doing

1527
01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:38,239
so that uh um we're R still reducing um

1528
01:20:35,159 --> 01:20:41,360
least line costs so um that continues to

1529
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:43,159
go down and um we're frankly in a

1530
01:20:41,360 --> 01:20:45,920
position that it's going to continue to

1531
01:20:43,159 --> 01:20:47,280
go down for the next um couple years in

1532
01:20:45,920 --> 01:20:50,480
my

1533
01:20:47,280 --> 01:20:51,719
estimation very nice yeah all

1534
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:54,239
[Music]

1535
01:20:51,719 --> 01:20:56,000
right

1536
01:20:54,239 --> 01:20:58,760
question on this

1537
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:59,960
section see none let's move to Central

1538
01:20:58,760 --> 01:21:04,440
data

1539
01:20:59,960 --> 01:21:06,560
processing okay um 1680 it uh Central

1540
01:21:04,440 --> 01:21:09,159
data processing budget shows an increase

1541
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:12,120
of almost

1542
01:21:09,159 --> 01:21:15,440
$170,000 um primarily due to the

1543
01:21:12,120 --> 01:21:19,120
retirements we talked about um in the

1544
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:22,199
1620 admin and the need to have um

1545
01:21:19,120 --> 01:21:25,520
additional positions um you know long

1546
01:21:22,199 --> 01:21:27,239
story short over three decades the admin

1547
01:21:25,520 --> 01:21:30,120
staff had taken on a lot of

1548
01:21:27,239 --> 01:21:34,320
responsibilities that really weren't you

1549
01:21:30,120 --> 01:21:36,760
know um in the correct place but you

1550
01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:40,199
know I've been here so long frankly it

1551
01:21:36,760 --> 01:21:41,960
started um you know we never we had one

1552
01:21:40,199 --> 01:21:44,760
big server in the other room people

1553
01:21:41,960 --> 01:21:48,159
didn't have desktops in their their

1554
01:21:44,760 --> 01:21:49,639
offices we didn't have uh uh email for

1555
01:21:48,159 --> 01:21:51,320
everyone I think we had five email

1556
01:21:49,639 --> 01:21:54,639
addresses when I started you know in the

1557
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:54,639
city if that many so lot

1558
01:21:55,960 --> 01:22:03,719
CH no citya

1559
01:21:59,760 --> 01:22:07,199
address did you invent the I didn't say

1560
01:22:03,719 --> 01:22:12,679
that but there was no internet here

1561
01:22:07,199 --> 01:22:15,520
start so um yeah so um you know we're

1562
01:22:12,679 --> 01:22:19,840
now putting a lot of this into the IT

1563
01:22:15,520 --> 01:22:23,280
department where it belongs um and um

1564
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:26,920
and we're looking to have an is um

1565
01:22:23,280 --> 01:22:29,080
ips3 uh and an additional IT specialist

1566
01:22:26,920 --> 01:22:32,800
Web Master are proposed in this budget

1567
01:22:29,080 --> 01:22:34,719
to help take some of that um workload

1568
01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:39,080
and split it up where it

1569
01:22:34,719 --> 01:22:41,000
belongs um other major things uh in

1570
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:44,840
service training is shifted from the

1571
01:22:41,000 --> 01:22:47,120
administration cost um and an increase

1572
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,360
uh in our fees for service budget of

1573
01:22:47,120 --> 01:22:51,120
about the

1574
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:54,840
um

1575
01:22:51,120 --> 01:22:57,760
$225,000 that that fees for services uh

1576
01:22:54,840 --> 01:23:00,840
is for our financial software our code

1577
01:22:57,760 --> 01:23:04,760
enforcement software Microsoft

1578
01:23:00,840 --> 01:23:07,600
365 uh our security uh software for our

1579
01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:11,920
internet um as well as maintenance of

1580
01:23:07,600 --> 01:23:15,000
our um um um critical Network

1581
01:23:11,920 --> 01:23:17,840
infrastructure so that continues to rise

1582
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:21,480
but it's such an important

1583
01:23:17,840 --> 01:23:24,480
um cost that have covered in different

1584
01:23:21,480 --> 01:23:24,480
areas

1585
01:23:25,080 --> 01:23:30,159
you said something about the inservice

1586
01:23:27,520 --> 01:23:34,520
training yes uh I said some of it

1587
01:23:30,159 --> 01:23:36,679
shifted from the um 1620 administration

1588
01:23:34,520 --> 01:23:39,679
because it's not needed there as much as

1589
01:23:36,679 --> 01:23:42,520
it would be needed in the it um to

1590
01:23:39,679 --> 01:23:45,040
continue to have these people trained in

1591
01:23:42,520 --> 01:23:47,560
cyber security and the newer equipment

1592
01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:50,609
that we have out there okay thank

1593
01:23:47,560 --> 01:23:50,609
[Music]

1594
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:58,960
you

1595
01:23:54,280 --> 01:24:02,199
any other question on Central that

1596
01:23:58,960 --> 01:24:03,960
Pro go ahead please uh Mr Kio I know you

1597
01:24:02,199 --> 01:24:05,719
mentioned trying to right side some of

1598
01:24:03,960 --> 01:24:07,639
the roles and responsibilities making

1599
01:24:05,719 --> 01:24:09,480
sure that they fall to the not only the

1600
01:24:07,639 --> 01:24:11,600
appropriate person but the appropriate

1601
01:24:09,480 --> 01:24:13,480
persons to handle that workload does

1602
01:24:11,600 --> 01:24:16,239
that Encompass all roles and

1603
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:18,679
responsibilities or just the individuals

1604
01:24:16,239 --> 01:24:21,360
retiring that makes sense I'm not sure I

1605
01:24:18,679 --> 01:24:23,239
understand your question so we tried to

1606
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:26,800
outline

1607
01:24:23,239 --> 01:24:30,239
in our heads as much as possible um

1608
01:24:26,800 --> 01:24:34,159
sufficient staff to handle the duties

1609
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:37,360
that were um originally in the

1610
01:24:34,159 --> 01:24:40,760
administration um budget that answer

1611
01:24:37,360 --> 01:24:44,199
your question um and maintaining that

1612
01:24:40,760 --> 01:24:47,560
position for the traffic duties that

1613
01:24:44,199 --> 01:24:49,800
that position originally um would have

1614
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,800
been

1615
01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:55,400
hand so our new the new high whenever

1616
01:24:53,119 --> 01:24:57,560
that happens will not have as many

1617
01:24:55,400 --> 01:25:00,639
duties as you currently do have taken on

1618
01:24:57,560 --> 01:25:03,199
over the years correct

1619
01:25:00,639 --> 01:25:06,600
okay thank

1620
01:25:03,199 --> 01:25:08,480
you any other

1621
01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:12,679
questions we're still going to do like

1622
01:25:08,480 --> 01:25:15,639
sign maintenance and traffic yep

1623
01:25:12,679 --> 01:25:19,000
okay I have all

1624
01:25:15,639 --> 01:25:21,360
my we just have no food It's all under U

1625
01:25:19,000 --> 01:25:24,960
ility so I wasn't sure yes so we're

1626
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:28,119
moving on to page AG 22 utility sign

1627
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:32,119
main that speaks volumes in itself not

1628
01:25:28,119 --> 01:25:32,119
even in the same places you know what I

1629
01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:39,600
mean what page page 22 got

1630
01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:43,800
it and I will roll

1631
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:47,080
into 20 23 so sign maintenance there's

1632
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:50,080
really no major changes in this budget

1633
01:25:47,080 --> 01:25:53,239
the increase is like $88,000 mostly due

1634
01:25:50,080 --> 01:25:57,119
to uh negotiated contra

1635
01:25:53,239 --> 01:25:59,800
changes um I know there was a a late

1636
01:25:57,119 --> 01:26:02,679
question from councilwoman Patrick

1637
01:25:59,800 --> 01:26:06,760
concerning um whether or not there were

1638
01:26:02,679 --> 01:26:08,960
dollars in there for traffic cing um

1639
01:26:06,760 --> 01:26:12,440
techniques there's certainly dollars in

1640
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:15,960
there for signage most traffic cing

1641
01:26:12,440 --> 01:26:18,800
devices require big dollars and they

1642
01:26:15,960 --> 01:26:20,600
would you typically be either in a

1643
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:25,040
capital or

1644
01:26:20,600 --> 01:26:26,760
um you know chips uh funded project or

1645
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:28,920
something like that to be quite honest

1646
01:26:26,760 --> 01:26:28,920
with

1647
01:26:29,080 --> 01:26:36,679
you looking at looking at the painters

1648
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:39,960
painter there's so increase is because

1649
01:26:36,679 --> 01:26:44,280
cont cont they're in contract

1650
01:26:39,960 --> 01:26:46,320
negotiation go please so um it's about

1651
01:26:44,280 --> 01:26:47,960
so these signs I'm seeing I was driving

1652
01:26:46,320 --> 01:26:49,920
around last night and I see this there's

1653
01:26:47,960 --> 01:26:51,360
like this additional I don't know if

1654
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:54,000
this comes under us this additional

1655
01:26:51,360 --> 01:26:55,320
thing on the sign where it's illuminated

1656
01:26:54,000 --> 01:26:57,360
it's those reflectors that are going

1657
01:26:55,320 --> 01:27:00,760
down the is that something that we're

1658
01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:03,840
currently doing okay

1659
01:27:00,760 --> 01:27:07,040
and how do we decide where they

1660
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:11,040
go well I think many of what you see

1661
01:27:07,040 --> 01:27:14,280
were part of a capital project that Mr

1662
01:27:11,040 --> 01:27:19,000
wiing did that and when he replaced the

1663
01:27:14,280 --> 01:27:22,320
signs um he had them add that device um

1664
01:27:19,000 --> 01:27:27,199
brings much more attention to the sign

1665
01:27:22,320 --> 01:27:30,199
be able to um see it um you know CU I

1666
01:27:27,199 --> 01:27:32,000
saw Rand good idea on conso road the one

1667
01:27:30,199 --> 01:27:33,960
you know Council world had signs stop

1668
01:27:32,000 --> 01:27:35,560
signs going all the way up one of them

1669
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:38,000
had that on it night so I just figing

1670
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:40,760
trying to figure out how we've also used

1671
01:27:38,000 --> 01:27:44,880
it before where we've had signs that

1672
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:47,280
were um hit struck regularly right to

1673
01:27:44,880 --> 01:27:50,080
bring more attention to the fact that

1674
01:27:47,280 --> 01:27:54,119
it's there

1675
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:56,199
okay thank you go ahead so back to the

1676
01:27:54,119 --> 01:27:58,880
traffic coming equipment and door

1677
01:27:56,199 --> 01:27:59,920
signage or whatever we need um obviously

1678
01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:02,600
it's been something that we've been

1679
01:27:59,920 --> 01:28:04,159
talking about quite a bit Mr Paul many

1680
01:28:02,600 --> 01:28:06,360
introduced some things I mean we've been

1681
01:28:04,159 --> 01:28:08,080
just talking you know I know that you

1682
01:28:06,360 --> 01:28:10,560
and Mr Wallen are going to be coming

1683
01:28:08,080 --> 01:28:12,520
back to us with some some plans so if

1684
01:28:10,560 --> 01:28:15,800
it's not in the

1685
01:28:12,520 --> 01:28:17,679
budget how do we I mean it's hard to

1686
01:28:15,800 --> 01:28:21,000
budget something if we don't know the

1687
01:28:17,679 --> 01:28:23,639
magnitude of what we're talking about um

1688
01:28:21,000 --> 01:28:26,320
you know we talked um we've had some

1689
01:28:23,639 --> 01:28:28,760
installation of he speed bump pumps

1690
01:28:26,320 --> 01:28:32,000
right you know those are um there's high

1691
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:35,040
cost to them um and we need to figure

1692
01:28:32,000 --> 01:28:39,040
out a a true way of making sure that

1693
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:41,639
just one phone call cannot you know

1694
01:28:39,040 --> 01:28:43,880
um make someone think that they can get

1695
01:28:41,639 --> 01:28:45,880
that right there has to be a plan um one

1696
01:28:43,880 --> 01:28:47,320
of the great things about U being able

1697
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:49,760
to collect the data like we're

1698
01:28:47,320 --> 01:28:52,400
collecting now is you know we have some

1699
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:54,840
information to back that up um you

1700
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:57,920
certainly can take a number and throw it

1701
01:28:54,840 --> 01:29:01,000
out there to be able to have

1702
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:05,320
available um you know to be used for

1703
01:29:01,000 --> 01:29:08,320
that but I think we need a plan yeah

1704
01:29:05,320 --> 01:29:11,800
[Music]

1705
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:14,080
first any other question on sign Manas

1706
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:16,679
please in some features could actually

1707
01:29:14,080 --> 01:29:18,840
be designed in the paving

1708
01:29:16,679 --> 01:29:21,040
program so the money that's there there

1709
01:29:18,840 --> 01:29:24,159
may be modifications either in the way

1710
01:29:21,040 --> 01:29:26,400
the street is laid out for in the

1711
01:29:24,159 --> 01:29:31,840
delineation we put on it for striping

1712
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:31,840
and other Market absolutely

1713
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:37,760
y any other question on this section

1714
01:29:34,280 --> 01:29:43,560
let's move on to utilities

1715
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:45,440
traffic so the uh 24 utilities a 3311

1716
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:48,920
traffic budget also has a planned

1717
01:29:45,440 --> 01:29:51,480
retirement um which requires another uh

1718
01:29:48,920 --> 01:29:55,280
line a couple line items for unused

1719
01:29:51,480 --> 01:29:59,600
vacation and Si leave

1720
01:29:55,280 --> 01:30:03,239
um there is a reduction in the uh 200

1721
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:08,000
equipment line um that brings it back

1722
01:30:03,239 --> 01:30:11,600
down so uh the 24 request is about

1723
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:13,760
$26,000 more in total more than the um

1724
01:30:11,600 --> 01:30:16,679
23 adopted

1725
01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:19,360
budget and that's um those are the only

1726
01:30:16,679 --> 01:30:22,760
major changes in there I think that was

1727
01:30:19,360 --> 01:30:27,679
uh another question you had so in 23

1728
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:30,960
this year the equipment code of $60,000

1729
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:33,679
that request was used to purchase um a

1730
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:37,560
large number of traffic controllers so

1731
01:30:33,679 --> 01:30:40,400
that um back to our fiber deployment

1732
01:30:37,560 --> 01:30:43,360
right so we put so much fiber out um

1733
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:46,560
we're replacing the old traffic signal

1734
01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:49,239
controllers on State Street um primarily

1735
01:30:46,560 --> 01:30:51,880
with new ones that have ethernet based

1736
01:30:49,239 --> 01:30:54,800
control so that we can communicate with

1737
01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:59,840
with them as the old system that we had

1738
01:30:54,800 --> 01:31:01,920
uh no longer works so that gave us um an

1739
01:30:59,840 --> 01:31:04,040
sufficient number of traffic signal

1740
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:06,360
controllers actually haven't even

1741
01:31:04,040 --> 01:31:08,920
received them yet we're waiting for them

1742
01:31:06,360 --> 01:31:11,719
um to be able to um go all the way up to

1743
01:31:08,920 --> 01:31:14,400
the City Line put coordination back in

1744
01:31:11,719 --> 01:31:16,080
there um lets us know if a lights on

1745
01:31:14,400 --> 01:31:19,159
flash if there's a problem with one

1746
01:31:16,080 --> 01:31:20,760
sends us messages really good to have so

1747
01:31:19,159 --> 01:31:24,520
um

1748
01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:27,199
um the 24 budget I think dropped down to

1749
01:31:24,520 --> 01:31:30,440
what 20,000 so I'm looking for a few

1750
01:31:27,199 --> 01:31:33,280
more to continue that program but not on

1751
01:31:30,440 --> 01:31:35,600
um not on a large scale um I think it's

1752
01:31:33,280 --> 01:31:38,000
important we saw the uh fire department

1753
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:40,400
before here asking for large some of

1754
01:31:38,000 --> 01:31:42,960
money to replace all those units at the

1755
01:31:40,400 --> 01:31:45,400
same time we need to make sure that we

1756
01:31:42,960 --> 01:31:48,199
replace pieces of them every year right

1757
01:31:45,400 --> 01:31:50,360
and not the entire thing in the future

1758
01:31:48,199 --> 01:31:52,080
right to make sure that uh uh we don't

1759
01:31:50,360 --> 01:31:54,960
have that big number so that that's what

1760
01:31:52,080 --> 01:31:57,840
I'm I'm asking to continue um with a

1761
01:31:54,960 --> 01:32:01,199
smaller amount but yet still continue

1762
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:03,080
the um project of updating possible

1763
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:06,119
thank

1764
01:32:03,080 --> 01:32:07,719
you any other

1765
01:32:06,119 --> 01:32:11,000
questions

1766
01:32:07,719 --> 01:32:16,480
traic okay seeing none we'll move

1767
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:18,679
to page I just so I know I I heard what

1768
01:32:16,480 --> 01:32:20,280
you were saying around you really want

1769
01:32:18,679 --> 01:32:21,840
to know like what the scope of the

1770
01:32:20,280 --> 01:32:24,880
project could be before you could come

1771
01:32:21,840 --> 01:32:27,159
ex money that makes sense um I'm just I

1772
01:32:24,880 --> 01:32:29,719
guess and I don't know I think maybe

1773
01:32:27,159 --> 01:32:33,400
might be in to say way things here

1774
01:32:29,719 --> 01:32:35,320
um this is something that um residents

1775
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:37,000
are constantly talking about it's

1776
01:32:35,320 --> 01:32:39,920
something that we're constantly talking

1777
01:32:37,000 --> 01:32:41,960
about so would it would it be wise to

1778
01:32:39,920 --> 01:32:45,000
try to

1779
01:32:41,960 --> 01:32:47,840
um uh is there any projected number that

1780
01:32:45,000 --> 01:32:49,679
you could think that be I I just I just

1781
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:51,760
say that cuz if are we're going to be

1782
01:32:49,679 --> 01:32:54,280
able to be responsive totally get it I'm

1783
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:56,560
saying to you is that traffic caling

1784
01:32:54,280 --> 01:32:58,440
methods there's so many different ones

1785
01:32:56,560 --> 01:33:01,040
if we're talking about certain types of

1786
01:32:58,440 --> 01:33:04,159
signage money in here buy some signs you

1787
01:33:01,040 --> 01:33:08,280
know if we're talking about U uh you

1788
01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:11,520
know major rehab that's um you know like

1789
01:33:08,280 --> 01:33:13,000
the mayor spoke of uh you redesigning

1790
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:15,119
streets you know that have been

1791
01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,920
roundabouts thrown out there some of

1792
01:33:15,119 --> 01:33:19,920
those are big dollars you know so it's

1793
01:33:16,920 --> 01:33:22,520
hard to to judge uh where you want to go

1794
01:33:19,920 --> 01:33:25,760
with that but um just variables really

1795
01:33:22,520 --> 01:33:29,040
come up okay sense

1796
01:33:25,760 --> 01:33:30,719
so I don't have a great answer for you

1797
01:33:29,040 --> 01:33:33,560
got

1798
01:33:30,719 --> 01:33:34,840
real maybe we'll be able to find some as

1799
01:33:33,560 --> 01:33:36,679
we move forward so I do have a little

1800
01:33:34,840 --> 01:33:39,280
bit further questions about that because

1801
01:33:36,679 --> 01:33:40,800
we tried the traffic comes on one street

1802
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:43,159
and then we're supposed to hear back

1803
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:44,360
like how did it work etc haven't heard

1804
01:33:43,159 --> 01:33:46,000
that I understand that one's been

1805
01:33:44,360 --> 01:33:49,360
removed the other state has stayed in

1806
01:33:46,000 --> 01:33:50,639
place M on the same street and my

1807
01:33:49,360 --> 01:33:52,440
understanding was it was it was a

1808
01:33:50,639 --> 01:33:55,040
demonstration project so we could GA

1809
01:33:52,440 --> 01:33:56,880
gather the data correct and that they

1810
01:33:55,040 --> 01:33:58,800
would then be moved to another Street

1811
01:33:56,880 --> 01:34:00,440
both of those but that hasn't happened

1812
01:33:58,800 --> 01:34:02,679
and at this point in time we haven't

1813
01:34:00,440 --> 01:34:05,080
even heard how well it worked where it

1814
01:34:02,679 --> 01:34:06,960
was so there was a little back and forth

1815
01:34:05,080 --> 01:34:09,400
I don't believe that they've completed

1816
01:34:06,960 --> 01:34:12,480
the evaluation of it yet remember these

1817
01:34:09,400 --> 01:34:14,719
are things that were not planned to stay

1818
01:34:12,480 --> 01:34:17,600
out during the winter because they were

1819
01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:20,480
Rubber and although they might stay the

1820
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:24,440
chances are they would be damaged by um

1821
01:34:20,480 --> 01:34:26,239
flows so um I will get back to you um

1822
01:34:24,440 --> 01:34:28,880
with that information I I know that

1823
01:34:26,239 --> 01:34:32,159
Chris and the police were working on it

1824
01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:33,840
um I haven't heard anything um the last

1825
01:34:32,159 --> 01:34:35,679
couple of days but I will check and find

1826
01:34:33,840 --> 01:34:36,880
out definitely should have that

1827
01:34:35,679 --> 01:34:40,800
information all right I was just

1828
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:42,880
wondering if if if the if the data that

1829
01:34:40,800 --> 01:34:44,480
you were gathering was based on two I'm

1830
01:34:42,880 --> 01:34:47,600
sorry if the if you were doing the

1831
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:49,360
demonstration based on two and why was

1832
01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:51,199
one removed and not the other because

1833
01:34:49,360 --> 01:34:53,960
then it just kind of throws it all off i

1834
01:34:51,199 --> 01:34:56,360
s myself I I don't know why why they

1835
01:34:53,960 --> 01:34:58,000
only removed one maybe it was planning

1836
01:34:56,360 --> 01:35:00,280
and they didn't have enough guys to do

1837
01:34:58,000 --> 01:35:02,880
it I I don't know I'll check on that all

1838
01:35:00,280 --> 01:35:05,400
right is that I don't think there I

1839
01:35:02,880 --> 01:35:07,480
thought they mve one to near the school

1840
01:35:05,400 --> 01:35:10,679
as far yeah the one at the school was

1841
01:35:07,480 --> 01:35:12,040
gone one at school's gone yeah oh okay

1842
01:35:10,679 --> 01:35:15,000
but you're saying the other one is still

1843
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:17,000
there I I'll find out cuz Mr Wallin said

1844
01:35:15,000 --> 01:35:19,360
weeks ago that oh we're taking them out

1845
01:35:17,000 --> 01:35:20,880
and sure enough one was gone I was like

1846
01:35:19,360 --> 01:35:23,520
oh they're both gone but I kept driving

1847
01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:25,520
and are not both gone so and so are you

1848
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:27,159
also saying that we the second part of

1849
01:35:25,520 --> 01:35:29,760
the demonstration project that we talked

1850
01:35:27,159 --> 01:35:31,920
about we was going to move near Rugby

1851
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:34,280
Road for 10 weeks because it overstayed

1852
01:35:31,920 --> 01:35:37,119
at the first place so that's not going

1853
01:35:34,280 --> 01:35:40,000
to happen before the winter I I would

1854
01:35:37,119 --> 01:35:41,719
have to talk to Chris I I wasn't

1855
01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:43,119
programming it to be honest with you but

1856
01:35:41,719 --> 01:35:45,760
I will find out and we'll get that

1857
01:35:43,119 --> 01:35:47,760
information back to you all right thank

1858
01:35:45,760 --> 01:35:50,400
you any

1859
01:35:47,760 --> 01:35:52,040
question okay let's move on to

1860
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:54,719
page

1861
01:35:52,040 --> 01:35:57,719
turkey

1862
01:35:54,719 --> 01:35:59,700
seven liting yep is that's your last one

1863
01:35:57,719 --> 01:36:02,819
it's my last

1864
01:35:59,700 --> 01:36:02,819
[Music]

1865
01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:09,360
one last

1866
01:36:07,719 --> 01:36:12,480
one

1867
01:36:09,360 --> 01:36:15,679
85182 um there's a few increases in the

1868
01:36:12,480 --> 01:36:20,480
2024 uh uh Street lighting budget we're

1869
01:36:15,679 --> 01:36:22,639
asking for $70,000 increase in um uh 402

1870
01:36:20,480 --> 01:36:25,360
Administration expense and that's to

1871
01:36:22,639 --> 01:36:28,920
cover our yearly maintenance of genitech

1872
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:31,040
and our ubiquity Smart City devices um

1873
01:36:28,920 --> 01:36:32,520
previously they were covered by um

1874
01:36:31,040 --> 01:36:35,400
National Grid during the beginning of

1875
01:36:32,520 --> 01:36:39,800
the Rev demonstration project but that's

1876
01:36:35,400 --> 01:36:43,000
um that's uh uh being phased out so uh

1877
01:36:39,800 --> 01:36:45,920
we would be taking that uh payment over

1878
01:36:43,000 --> 01:36:48,560
um just so you know since the Inception

1879
01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:51,440
uh of that uh project we've uh uh

1880
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:53,800
downloaded over 4,000 videos that were

1881
01:36:51,440 --> 01:36:56,719
used in police and fire investigations

1882
01:36:53,800 --> 01:37:00,080
and um most recently started using the

1883
01:36:56,719 --> 01:37:02,480
analytic uh uh um components of them to

1884
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:07,480
provide the US with the traffic volumes

1885
01:37:02,480 --> 01:37:09,400
and speeds on um uh King's Road so um my

1886
01:37:07,480 --> 01:37:12,520
feeling is that there's Great Value to

1887
01:37:09,400 --> 01:37:15,800
that and um it's an important feature

1888
01:37:12,520 --> 01:37:19,920
that uh uh we should continue

1889
01:37:15,800 --> 01:37:22,800
with um questions

1890
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:25,199
comments we also looking for can I

1891
01:37:22,800 --> 01:37:28,560
finish my other too okay so we're also

1892
01:37:25,199 --> 01:37:30,639
looking for an increase in the uh uh 425

1893
01:37:28,560 --> 01:37:33,280
light power in gas is based on the

1894
01:37:30,639 --> 01:37:35,800
history of the account and um you know

1895
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:41,199
corresponding increases in electric and

1896
01:37:35,800 --> 01:37:44,360
um um gas rates and lastly the 5182 uh

1897
01:37:41,199 --> 01:37:46,840
425a is being eliminated in the 24

1898
01:37:44,360 --> 01:37:49,119
proposed budget um that's the Rev

1899
01:37:46,840 --> 01:37:51,639
demonstration money um as we're

1900
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:55,119
currently in negotiations with National

1901
01:37:51,639 --> 01:37:55,119
Grid uh uh on this

1902
01:37:55,159 --> 01:37:59,560
item thank you any

1903
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:08,400
questions seeing none we'll move to

1904
01:38:04,719 --> 01:38:11,400
Capital so one Capital request and um

1905
01:38:08,400 --> 01:38:15,960
we'll ask our chief technology officer

1906
01:38:11,400 --> 01:38:16,720
Mr to um provide some details on why he

1907
01:38:15,960 --> 01:38:18,440
wants what he

1908
01:38:16,720 --> 01:38:21,639
[Music]

1909
01:38:18,440 --> 01:38:25,040
wants yes our current infrastructure sir

1910
01:38:21,639 --> 01:38:29,040
um server and which we have is we did

1911
01:38:25,040 --> 01:38:34,110
the ma of R in 2015 and it's almost like

1912
01:38:29,040 --> 01:38:36,360
up life of those stor

1913
01:38:34,110 --> 01:38:40,000
[Music]

1914
01:38:36,360 --> 01:38:42,400
and 2024 February so we have to act on

1915
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:44,719
it and we have to upate the

1916
01:38:42,400 --> 01:38:47,400
[Music]

1917
01:38:44,719 --> 01:38:50,440
server this existing server won't even

1918
01:38:47,400 --> 01:38:54,719
take the new software so we are like

1919
01:38:50,440 --> 01:38:57,400
bound to to up these servos and Stor as

1920
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well I'm talking about servos here and

1921
01:38:57,400 --> 01:39:02,639
also on our other

1922
01:38:59,480 --> 01:39:02,639
site we

1923
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have how many servers are you talking in

1924
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:15,119
total uh three servers we do the same

1925
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:19,360
three two over here one over

1926
01:39:15,119 --> 01:39:21,639
there any questions go ahead please no

1927
01:39:19,360 --> 01:39:25,440
no I'm scratching

1928
01:39:21,639 --> 01:39:27,639
sorry so questions you have replace

1929
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computer servers and body cameras I was

1930
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under the impression that axon that

1931
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contractual agreement was going to be

1932
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supplying us body1

1933
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cameras oh right got

1934
01:39:38,920 --> 01:39:44,719
disregard yeah I like wait he he could

1935
01:39:41,280 --> 01:39:49,440
probably help you with that question no

1936
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:51,880
no right about that 200,000 any other

1937
01:39:49,440 --> 01:39:57,599
questions thanks

1938
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:57,599
all right I think we're done it yeah

1939
01:39:58,000 --> 01:40:06,199
easy some reason Anthony I have do five

1940
01:40:03,440 --> 01:40:09,040
jobs

1941
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too P page 16 let's go through these two

1942
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:13,320
items so that I we can get it out 16

1943
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page

1944
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16 I'm sorry what is judgement and claim

1945
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judgement Anda

1946
01:40:18,679 --> 01:40:25,440
right for some reason show was part of

1947
01:40:21,719 --> 01:40:28,119
the schedule yes I saw that yeah the

1948
01:40:25,440 --> 01:40:29,360
Judgment claims is the same amount as we

1949
01:40:28,119 --> 01:40:32,880
had at

1950
01:40:29,360 --> 01:40:34,119
20123 um uh the Judgment claims that

1951
01:40:32,880 --> 01:40:37,400
that is

1952
01:40:34,119 --> 01:40:40,639
the the account that we pay our claims

1953
01:40:37,400 --> 01:40:45,040
out of uh especially uh in the most

1954
01:40:40,639 --> 01:40:47,199
recently those big payment claims and uh

1955
01:40:45,040 --> 01:40:49,000
we're settling a lot of those contracts

1956
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:51,440
we feel that this is going to go down as

1957
01:40:49,000 --> 01:40:53,679
you recall we're settling most of the

1958
01:40:51,440 --> 01:40:57,360
contracts of this last one that we're

1959
01:40:53,679 --> 01:41:00,440
we're settling in the next thing is over

1960
01:40:57,360 --> 01:41:02,800
10 years old you know it's one it's one

1961
01:41:00,440 --> 01:41:05,639
of the uh ones last ones that were

1962
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:08,800
hanging out there uh the the sary uh

1963
01:41:05,639 --> 01:41:12,360
claims over there 15,000 for you know

1964
01:41:08,800 --> 01:41:14,360
claims for our tax whatever uh according

1965
01:41:12,360 --> 01:41:17,040
to Molly I spoke to her we do not have

1966
01:41:14,360 --> 01:41:18,480
anything big out there plan but it's

1967
01:41:17,040 --> 01:41:21,199
always good to have you know to keep

1968
01:41:18,480 --> 01:41:23,599
that amount in case uh anything happens

1969
01:41:21,199 --> 01:41:26,840
or we have to use it to you know

1970
01:41:23,599 --> 01:41:26,840
transfer it into judgment and

1971
01:41:27,199 --> 01:41:33,080
claims okay to care

1972
01:41:30,440 --> 01:41:36,440
that any other

1973
01:41:33,080 --> 01:41:37,080
business we have a motion we are not

1974
01:41:36,440 --> 01:41:39,400
we're not

1975
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[Music]

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at motion to recess Mo recess second all

1977
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in favor I thank you everyone have a

1978
01:41:47,480 --> 01:41:51,460
good evening good

1979
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we

1980
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[Music]

1981
01:42:07,040 --> 01:42:12,760
yeah probably came from some of this

1982
01:42:09,599 --> 01:42:12,760
stuff thank

1983
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:18,159
you thank you oh jeez got up too

1984
01:42:18,320 --> 01:42:22,760
fast so I don't need to forward your

1985
01:42:20,520 --> 01:42:27,440
question you already forwarded I did I

1986
01:42:22,760 --> 01:42:27,440
copied them so they had it so

1987
01:42:27,599 --> 01:42:32,159
okay I don't think I'll have any more

1988
01:42:29,920 --> 01:42:34,360
just trying to just take care of for

1989
01:42:32,159 --> 01:42:37,119
today pretty sure I went through most of

1990
01:42:34,360 --> 01:42:37,119
everything else

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[Music]

1992
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so

1993
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was nice I was going to have a quick

1994
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chat with

1995
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you

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for

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for

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for

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for

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for

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for

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for

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for

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for

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e

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for

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for