[0:28] for
[0:58] for
[1:28] for
[1:58] for
[2:14] stuck in
[2:17] the well if it's nice at least you can
[2:19] sit out Boors and do something
[2:22] maybe
[2:24] [Music]
[2:28] okay
[2:40] who else is who else is going to yell at
[2:41] the
[2:49] [Music]
[2:58] none
[3:01] hey I got that
[3:08] thing it off the
[3:26] [Music]
[3:28] counter
[3:30] [Music]
[3:47] like to call to order connect the city
[3:49] council committee meeting for Mond it's
[3:51] not m is Friday October 6 2023 and I'll
[3:55] turn over to Mr
[3:57] M thank you madam president I would like
[4:00] to call the finance committee to
[4:02] order um this evening we
[4:05] are having our for um hearing on the
[4:10] 2024 budget proposed
[4:12] budget and this evening we will be
[4:15] reviewing a few
[4:18] departments and I want
[4:28] to Ferrari you want to take it from here
[4:31] with terms of Revenue and after Revenue
[4:34] we will then go to lot
[4:36] Department
[4:41] okay D you want to go ahead and commence
[4:44] sure do you want me to run L line by
[4:47] line or let's give it an overview first
[4:50] just give us an overview and then we'll
[4:51] go through um the big items and then
[4:54] we'll sure open for any comment or any
[4:57] questions from the members
[5:05] the overview for the 20124 proposed
[5:08] budget we are looking at a total revenue
[5:12] uh general fund of 11 million 111 M
[5:18] 9947 um we have the
[5:21] 326,000 real property taxes proposed for
[5:25] the 2024 budget uh Big Ticket items uh
[5:29] are also including uh sales of use tax
[5:32] of 17
[5:33] million um we're looking at a new
[5:36] Revenue stream of 300,000 for cannabis
[5:40] uh sales
[5:42] tax I'm
[5:47] sorry trash charges we're looking at a
[5:51] 6.9 million proposed 2024
[5:58] budget other Big Ticket items include a
[6:02] 4 million post budget revenue of sale of
[6:11] houses joh would you like to go l l now
[6:15] or no no no no just go through the big
[6:17] big ticket items and that's for it and
[6:19] then we'll have um if members have any
[6:22] um need any explanation or any other
[6:25] lines can did see uh p had a couple
[6:30] questions about
[6:32] revenues uh one of them includ the fees
[6:35] and Year
[6:37] date
[6:40] $57 dat that's that's 2110a is that is
[6:44] that 211 I didn't write it on my own not
[6:46] 211 okay thank 231 232 21%
[6:53] increase um interest and earnings uh
[6:57] questioning why we rais to
[7:01] 450,000 um right now here today we're
[7:03] at$
[7:06] 42,6 interest rates are really well
[7:11] today for the sale of H sale of homes
[7:14] currently year to dat at 390,000 we're
[7:17] anticipating another
[7:19] 700,000 proximately by the end of the
[7:22] year that was somebody else's and I
[7:24] think one of the other questions you had
[7:25] was about get Grant and where was that
[7:28] um adding State approval at this okay
[7:33] that 521 th000 so it's not actually
[7:35] approved yet yeah I thinke clarify that
[7:39] ready to next
[7:41] Friday about may I ask another question
[7:45] go ahead please um you said campus um
[7:47] additional campus revenue of $300,000 or
[7:50] something propos 300,000 um we received
[7:54] approximately 95 97,000 and that's about
[7:57] one qu so we just being you know little
[8:01] give you know give and takes over
[8:03] estimate around 300,000 for next year
[8:06] okay I actually um could you just tell
[8:07] me what line number that is please I
[8:09] don't think I saw
[8:12] that
[8:15] 83075 oh wait no we just changed it
[8:17] that's right
[8:19] uh
[8:20] cannabis oh cannabis I'm sorry I thought
[8:23] you said campus sorry I'm so sorry
[8:26] forget it I know what that is sorry
[8:28] sorry
[8:29] I thought he said
[8:33] campus
[8:35] a116 no I'm all said now thanks I just
[8:38] misheard
[8:42] you if you wonder why we call it tax and
[8:45] adult use cannabis that's the state told
[8:48] us to use that okay that name and number
[8:51] thank you and what to date on
[8:54] that 97,000 yeah
[8:58] 796
[9:04] dere I provided you guys all with a year
[9:06] to date that's for revenues next the
[9:09] revenues and uh the other expenses that
[9:12] we're be talking about tonight so let
[9:15] you know that just
[9:16] got I just want to let you
[9:23] know so so this report here is the
[9:25] revenue that's Reven year here is the um
[9:31] expenditure for the Department we can
[9:32] just make yourself
[9:34] [Music]
[9:38] Revenue revenues in color expenditures
[9:41] are black and weight that's the way we
[9:43] figured it help you a little bit spin
[9:49] [Music]
[9:50] expens other question go ahead please so
[9:53] I wanted to ask about the um
[9:55] parking parking it's like
[9:58] a741 41A 41b um so the parking the 41A
[10:04] just
[10:05] a741 it says parking fees non- taxable
[10:09] and then so I'm not sure I understand
[10:11] why they're broken out that way the
[10:13] parking lot fees
[10:15] I or
[10:17] $300
[10:19] so okay uh parking meter fees are
[10:26] uh what has happened as I recall I'm
[10:29] just thinking off top of my head you
[10:30] said we have the Downtown parking fees
[10:32] that deal with the kiosks and stuff like
[10:34] that as parking fees these other parking
[10:35] metor fees I believe are the ones like
[10:38] uh that we have I believe in Union
[10:40] Street and the other Fe the other
[10:42] parking meters that we have they're not
[10:45] downtown uh the The Parking Spot search
[10:47] charge uh that the parking spot fee that
[10:51] says $300 that the mayor pays for his
[10:53] parking spot and that's what the M
[10:57] pays is that this budget assumes my
[11:00] re-election so that is in
[11:03] there the other day I came in here I
[11:05] sold a May's car uh the marriage fees
[11:09] for the first time in history are
[11:11] treated as a revenue line here so that's
[11:14] been probably
[11:16] $30,000 ni donated back to the city so
[11:20] we try and just project an image of
[11:22] fiscal conservativism
[11:26] and one time uh Council Pres raised the
[11:30] issue were i' taken parking spaces away
[11:33] from people with parking permits that
[11:36] was done in 2011 by the voters we took
[11:39] that
[11:40] referendum uh to clarify the authorities
[11:42] so
[11:44] that terms and conditions of employment
[11:47] solely the prerogative of the city
[11:49] council
[11:51] so parking is a benefit so if somebody
[11:55] wants a parking space that's
[11:56] specifically designated for them has to
[11:58] go to city
[12:01] council commissioner Finance has one
[12:04] that we never went to the council if you
[12:07] remember uh when I hired Deborah D
[12:11] NOA I wanted to pay more Council was
[12:15] hesitant about that and went with the
[12:18] lower salary I said well I'll throw in a
[12:20] parking space And so there's a
[12:23] commissioner Finance parking spot that
[12:26] was really for de D NOA
[12:30] and Mr Ferrari does well here he might
[12:32] let him keep his parking space or you
[12:35] take it away from if you don't like
[12:39] them you're good that sto you you're
[12:47] good any other
[12:49] questions go ahead please uh I had a
[12:51] question about the uh Property
[12:53] Management fees I apologize if you
[12:54] already briefed that but could you just
[12:56] explain what that consists of and the
[12:57] reason why I was asking is because uh
[13:00] this year it's identifying a 50%
[13:03] reduction and it's line number on the
[13:05] first page
[13:10] [Music]
[13:16] a1589
[13:19] um uh we we have been looking we've been
[13:22] working with the zoning department and
[13:24] met with them uh in the past as you look
[13:27] at to see uh in 2021 their fees have
[13:31] only been collecting you know 28
[13:34] 25,000 uh we were looking we thought
[13:36] that 2023 was going to be a renewed year
[13:39] for them to you know go out and add more
[13:42] more U cases uh but year today um 89
[13:48] 1789 we're only at 40,000 so we were
[13:51] taking that number and looking forward
[13:53] for 202 uh 2024 and we're we're thinking
[13:56] that uh 50,000 is the honest number
[13:58] before that until until we get him up
[14:01] and running in a proper management way
[14:13] again yeah I go ahead please question so
[14:17] it's um for the on a 2770 miscellaneous
[14:22] revenue
[14:24] and in the 23 budget it was 368,000
[14:29] and in the 24 it's down to 10 right uh
[14:32] in uh in 2023 the water department had
[14:36] one uh had won a a a judgment against a
[14:41] a property owner a property owner and uh
[14:45] uh we had felt that we we were going to
[14:47] be able to get out of that
[14:49] 350,000 and we're still working on
[14:52] getting it done I I believe uh a lot of
[14:54] ask Law Department they come in uh we're
[14:57] probably not going to get that money so
[14:59] 2024 if it does work out the council
[15:02] wants to at some point go into executive
[15:04] session I brief in Greater detail on
[15:06] that that this point would be still
[15:08] subject to litigation and
[15:12] negotiations uh we drafted down to 10 to
[15:16] emphasize you know what we feel you know
[15:18] is the true value of that you know
[15:20] revenue is going to come in you know not
[15:23] not that
[15:24] amount besides the not the 350 but any
[15:29] [Music]
[15:32] else because we don't have anything
[15:33] outstanding that we know of that it's
[15:35] going to come in so we can't just throw
[15:38] numbers in there you and that so you're
[15:40] saying that that didn't come in or did
[15:42] come in it did not come in as of yet we
[15:45] feel that it will come in but probably
[15:46] sometime in
[15:48] 2024 thank you we're still working on
[15:50] and as the mayor said it's something we
[15:51] have to talk about in executive session
[15:54] thank
[15:57] you
[16:01] um and my other question is for a 2590 B
[16:04] Taxi and ice cream
[16:06] permits so that went down um as well
[16:10] yeah that that number came from the
[16:11] police department when they're here on
[16:13] Friday they can explain that to you okay
[16:15] thank you that's number that they gave
[16:18] is thank
[16:26] you um that's f a 15 20 F PD Police
[16:32] District Revenue wasn't I supposed to go
[16:35] up say one more time eight 15 20 15 20 F
[16:42] 8 yeah it's going to go up by uh I think
[16:45] 3% or 2%
[16:47] yeah but you don't have it I I think we
[16:50] do we C right because because of what
[16:53] know the numbers is distorted because we
[16:56] we didn't start like a full year we got
[16:58] oh
[17:00] yeah yeah 2022 is 75 2023 is 225 and
[17:05] 2024 you have the same
[17:07] thing double check on that if you can
[17:10] check that then let us know CU I'm
[17:12] pretty sure that we checked it you know
[17:14] yeah exactly same number yeah jeez I
[17:17] didn't realize that I know I know we we
[17:20] had those numbers you know it is we
[17:22] probably had the 23 and we wanted just
[17:24] put it in 24 by mistake 15 1520
[17:38] any other question on
[17:41] Revenue go ahead please uh just forsake
[17:44] a clarification uh it's the P4 a389 H
[17:50] the casino license Fe right could you
[17:53] speak to that differ okay yeah um you we
[17:56] we are uh working with as you can see in
[17:58] 2022 we had 3.5 million but we were
[18:01] working with the county uh in uh uh
[18:05] getting these numbers and that's number
[18:08] that we're
[18:09] agreeing 3.6 million what what is our
[18:13] actual you have it an actual right now
[18:15] yes we do have that the are of the dat
[18:18] we just want to get that number
[18:21] again look at
[18:24] 1.87 Milli can you please rep that 1.8
[18:30] 1,878 792
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[18:35] 12 that's actually for two quarters we
[18:37] didn't get our third quarter yet oh so
[18:39] that's the end of
[18:40] June yeah we we didn't get our
[18:45] thir that's
[18:49] great excuse me that is
[18:53] great we're trying to be conservative to
[18:56] with the honest number still you know
[18:57] that means 24 is in good
[19:07] place any other question on
[19:19] Revenue okay we'll move on
[19:22] to Law Department and then we'll come
[19:26] back on
[19:27] schedule
[19:31] Law Department page
[19:40] seven the law department for just a
[19:43] brief overview um the adopted budget
[19:47] 2023 adopted budget number of
[19:52] 97756 proposing for the 24th budget
[19:57] 98925
[19:58] that is a approximately 1% increase U
[20:02] build
[20:03] in24 budget are n
[20:13] positions sure um currently you know
[20:16] sapping levels in our
[20:19] office uh consists of two full-time
[20:22] attorneys um me and Deputy Corporation
[20:25] Council morning we have two part-time
[20:29] attorneys um we have openings uh in our
[20:34] department uh for other
[20:36] attorneys um we
[20:39] have four administrative support staff
[20:42] identified as the records access officer
[20:44] who handles um Freedom of Information
[20:47] law requests aenas that we
[20:50] receive um other types of record
[20:54] requests uh we have a uh code
[20:58] enforcement
[20:59] Specialists um who helps prepare cases
[21:03] for prosecution in City Court um she's
[21:08] also uh taking claims when they come in
[21:12] um and interacting with our insurance
[21:15] company um and outside Council once
[21:18] those claims are assigned to turn into
[21:21] litigation um we have an
[21:23] ips3 who um you know answers the phone
[21:27] does filing
[21:29] more of the you know probably customary
[21:32] um administrative work that you find in
[21:34] an office we have the confidential
[21:37] secretary to The Corporation Council um
[21:40] she generally hand handles um real
[21:43] property work um she's been out since
[21:47] April
[21:48] um because of um she had she had a baby
[21:52] um so we're anticipating her coming back
[21:56] soon um obviously you know from a I
[22:01] guess employee standpoint it obviously
[22:02] has made it difficult having fewer
[22:04] attorneys than um we'd like particularly
[22:07] full-time attorneys and having one less
[22:10] uh administrative staff in person during
[22:12] the year um to touch on if I may um oh
[22:16] and the two part-time attorneys are
[22:18] identified in um object 121 814 2121 for
[22:22] DM salary um was 0.5 we brought another
[22:26] last year current year we did bring in
[22:29] another attorney to work part-time um
[22:32] one part-time attorney is generally two
[22:35] days a week the other one U generally
[22:37] three days a week um but not full days
[22:40] um for one of
[22:42] them
[22:44] um in terms of property sales um
[22:48] obviously the number is lower than
[22:49] obviously we would like um that's
[22:53] multifaceted in terms of the reasons why
[22:56] uh first we obviously obiously is you
[22:58] know you know we didn't do a foreclosure
[23:01] for quite some time because of Co we
[23:03] were prevented from doing that um
[23:05] because of
[23:07] the because of co uh we have obviously
[23:11] now done a foreclosure we've taken 105
[23:13] properties our initial list was roughly
[23:17] 750 um so it's great that people paid
[23:20] their taxes and were able to redeem but
[23:22] we did take a a good number of
[23:24] properties only in May um and as the
[23:27] council aware they've been um
[23:29] authorizing sales lately of some higher
[23:31] pric properties um I think the last
[23:35] eight non lot properties um that the
[23:38] council's authorized sales for totals
[23:41] 484000 um so you know we're hoping
[23:44] obviously to move more properties
[23:46] through the city council um to to get
[23:48] them you know sold
[23:51] um one of the things that Mr Ferrari
[23:54] touched on was uh judgments U for
[23:57] particular um case um total judgments on
[24:01] that right now because they haven't been
[24:02] paid with interest exceed
[24:06] $700,000 um we do anticipate we will be
[24:09] um able to take you know get all of that
[24:12] uh we are working there's a receiver
[24:14] who's been appointed um we're dealing
[24:17] with some legal um circumstances related
[24:19] to it back Mr Mar was working on it
[24:22] today um so I you know hopeful that you
[24:26] know early in 2020 for um well the
[24:29] receiver will be able to liquidate the
[24:31] properties that he's overseeing and will
[24:33] be able to you know make the city whole
[24:35] in terms of that fine money happy to
[24:38] answer questions that the council may
[24:40] have as it relates to budget or anything
[24:42] else that um in terms of the
[24:48] revenue I don't want choose oh okay I'm
[24:51] just going to ask um so we're going from
[24:54] nine positions to eight positions though
[24:57] and um was that ninth position ever
[25:01] filled no so in terms of what you're
[25:04] looking at right here um there are three
[25:07] assistant Corporation Council full times
[25:09] right uh it's important to note that um
[25:13] during 20123 Mr Marney was at the
[25:15] beginning of the year an assistant
[25:16] corporation councel uh he was promoted
[25:19] to Deputy Corporation councel during the
[25:21] year um so that is the movement of one
[25:24] assistant to the deputy which was
[25:25] unfilled previously okay um since James
[25:28] Commodore
[25:30] was in in the office um that also
[25:34] explains why the jump in salary for the
[25:36] deputy Deputy Corporation Council um is
[25:40] relatively high fure it was 9 it was
[25:43] $95,000 for the 2023 adopted budget um
[25:47] and it's U being moved to
[25:51] $16,800 uh when Mr Mar obviously one of
[25:54] the considerations um for you know
[25:57] having an attorney in the office
[25:58] especially when were short staff is
[26:01] being able to compensate the attorney
[26:03] for for being there um because that
[26:05] attorney is shouldering more work when
[26:07] we're not filling positions um so the Mr
[26:12] Marty's current salary as Deputy Corp
[26:14] council is
[26:16] 102 um which is when you add 4% to that
[26:19] that's where you get the
[26:21] 10680 um because it happened partway
[26:24] through the year where he was uh
[26:27] essentially Advanced of the Deputy
[26:29] position um there was money within the
[26:31] budget of that 95,000 to pay for the
[26:34] remainder of the year as Deputy Court
[26:36] Council
[26:37] um the three unfilled positions are
[26:41] obviously positions that we've been
[26:42] looking to fill um we've interviewed
[26:45] some folks it's you know obviously been
[26:48] a difficult process finding somebody who
[26:51] um has the experience to obviously do
[26:55] the work that we do since it is
[26:56] multifaceted know we handle quite a bit
[26:58] of different types of legal work um you
[27:03] know the the goal even losing that one
[27:06] assistant Corporation Council that one
[27:08] of that part of that was um you know we
[27:11] brought on a part-time uh assistant
[27:14] Corporation Council during the year and
[27:17] that essentially is now being reflected
[27:19] in the bottom for the prum salary since
[27:22] we went from 1 half to you know one
[27:26] whole yeah um so a reflection of the two
[27:28] part- Tim that we have right now
[27:34] okay all right so you mentioned the foil
[27:36] officer correct I don't see them under
[27:38] your budgets she is identified as the
[27:42] records access officer okay um that is
[27:47] yeah that's the foil officer um that's
[27:50] it's the same person she's been doing it
[27:53] you know over 20 years um yeah right and
[27:57] then also you mention judgment and
[27:58] claims I'm sorry did you mention
[28:00] judgment and claims yes yes so are you
[28:03] talking about A1 1930 let me go back
[28:07] [Music]
[28:09] here on page
[28:15] 16 on which page I have page page 16
[28:18] 1930 let's just turn to that
[28:26] page
[28:30] at the bottom those are a judgment and
[28:32] claims that we pay so that would be not
[28:35] that's not the revenue scream that I was
[28:37] I was referring to the revenue screen
[28:38] the Judgment that we would be receiving
[28:40] thank you um that was from our
[28:43] prosecution of um some property
[28:45] maintenance code violations on multiple
[28:47] properties thank you yep go ahead uh Mr
[28:51] C I think you mentioned briefly just the
[28:53] usage of par legals was that accurate
[28:56] the say the usage of legals in your off
[28:59] so yeah um that's a good thing to bring
[29:01] up um the uh record access officer and
[29:07] the
[29:08] um code enforcement Specialists were
[29:11] both paral leals previously um they have
[29:15] their paralal degrees um they have these
[29:18] specialized positions now um obviously
[29:22] the confidential secretary works on
[29:25] property sales quite a bit um she's not
[29:28] a
[29:28] paralal um you
[29:31] know obviously you know I would ideally
[29:35] like to staff the Law Department with
[29:37] attorneys right that's you know that's
[29:40] the goal um short of that you know I
[29:44] think having another person who has a
[29:47] legal background a paral for example um
[29:51] who has that experience potentially
[29:53] doing real estate work um something like
[29:57] that would obviously be helpful in most
[29:59] law firms paralegals do the closings you
[30:02] don't necessarily have an attorney doing
[30:04] it we don't have anybody currently who
[30:08] can do that which is why generally I do
[30:10] the closings uh Mr Marty does a few U
[30:14] generally that's
[30:15] [Music]
[30:17] me that being said the person who fills
[30:20] the confidential secretary position you
[30:22] know she's the person who's scheduling
[30:24] closings um clearing a lot of the title
[30:28] exceptions doing a lot of the scheduling
[30:30] and um you know making copies and you
[30:33] know really handling the communication
[30:35] with the outside attorney the real
[30:37] estate agent once it comes to us um and
[30:39] then the folks that we order searches
[30:41] from thank
[30:46] you C go ahead please so being that um
[30:52] trying to fill these two positions are
[30:54] so is that
[30:56] uh how how does that Rel to like someone
[31:00] outside
[31:01] Council fees that we're that we're
[31:03] paying for outside Council so that's a
[31:05] good question um so generally when the
[31:09] city a lawsuit somebody sues the city um
[31:13] our insurance requires Us in most
[31:15] instances where our insur whenever our
[31:17] insurance is covering whatever the claim
[31:20] is um they hire outside councel um we
[31:25] don't pay for that that's part of our
[31:28] coverage um we do turn to outside
[31:31] Council when things are specialized
[31:34] obviously you know there are attorneys
[31:36] who do things that we don't do um or
[31:38] have more experience and then there's a
[31:40] question of capacity do we have the time
[31:44] uh to um handle a particular uh you know
[31:49] some type of legal activity um is it
[31:51] going to be too time consuming do we
[31:53] have that capacity um a lot of it is
[31:55] going to have to be for that that
[31:57] question there is a judgment call based
[31:59] on our staffing at the time what we have
[32:01] going on some you know some days are
[32:04] obviously better than others in terms of
[32:06] what we have on our plates but as you
[32:08] know you know things can like legal
[32:10] conundrums can arise very quickly um we
[32:13] do maintain some outside Council that we
[32:16] use um you know it could be something
[32:21] along the lines of looking at um we
[32:24] we've modified the city code at times uh
[32:26] we did it not you know I think a couple
[32:28] years ago I recall with related to
[32:30] vacant buildings the city council took
[32:33] action but part of that was working with
[32:35] outside Council who you know have worked
[32:37] in other municipalities to craft
[32:39] something that works that makes sense so
[32:42] we wanted to really I think lean on
[32:44] their expertise so we use outside
[32:46] counsil
[32:48] that so
[32:50] essentially once positions are filled
[32:53] then we can expect to see a decrease in
[32:54] what we're doing with outside counsel I
[32:56] think ideally that would be correct yeah
[32:58] you know it's a most of the time it's a
[33:00] question of capacity um and every so
[33:04] often it's a question of expertise right
[33:07] the special yeah the specialization of
[33:09] that particular area of
[33:13] law any other question for
[33:17] Mr see thank you very much
[33:25] you we will jump to development and that
[33:30] is on
[33:32] page 4
[33:38] 46 and we will
[33:44] have page
[33:52] 46 so for the development
[33:55] department to codes 88 8686 to
[34:01] 8687 propos budget for
[34:04] 2024 at 930,000
[34:07] CL63 our budget for
[34:10] 2023 was 833 8 33,6 55 and look at
[34:18] approximately 8%
[34:21] increase and uh total proposed budget
[34:24] fills are 11 positions
[34:39] did you also cover Community Development
[34:41] yes that's uh 8686 8687
[34:50] okay a brief what's happening in the
[34:52] department okay um currently we are we
[34:57] have Staffing that is presented in the
[35:00] the budget but we are down staff right
[35:02] now in the development department which
[35:04] um puts our capacity in Jeopardy right
[35:07] now we lost since this budget was
[35:09] presented we lost the planner um we have
[35:12] a open position for a Community
[35:14] Development supervisor and a new role
[35:17] which is the Community Development
[35:19] Associate we did hire and need um
[35:23] currently a part-time position to handle
[35:25] our home funding to specialize in that
[35:28] particular um Federal program that we
[35:32] monitor but right now um the priority of
[35:35] the department as I am assessing and
[35:38] trying to uh identify the gaps within
[35:41] the department is building our capacity
[35:43] and making sure that we have full staff
[35:45] so that we can um execute
[35:55] efficiently and that will cover that
[35:58] cover both development Administration
[36:00] and also Community Development yes okay
[36:03] go ahead please could you just identify
[36:05] I mean some of them is clear based on
[36:07] what you said could you identify
[36:08] specifically the um openings that you
[36:11] have that are showing in the budget
[36:12] please yes um 86 86100 the planner one
[36:17] or senior
[36:19] planner okay is open or development and
[36:22] for Community Development we have the
[36:24] Community Development supervisor which
[36:27] we um the planner and the supervisor
[36:29] role are both posted and we do have
[36:32] roughly um 13 applicants that we will be
[36:36] reviewing for the supervisor role in the
[36:38] coming weeks um the new role that is on
[36:41] here that is not posted I am working
[36:43] with HR to redefine that job description
[36:46] now that I'm in place I can really
[36:48] understand what the department needs and
[36:50] it's really a a role that will have a
[36:53] little bit of everybody's kind of job in
[36:56] there for call cross training because
[36:58] right now the department if we lose
[37:00] somebody we lose the skill set and we it
[37:02] puts us 10 steps behind what all the
[37:04] transitioning that has occurred so um
[37:07] it's going to be imperative to get that
[37:10] job description as close to Accurate as
[37:13] possible to kind of be able to cross
[37:16] train with some of the other um
[37:17] positions so the Community Development
[37:19] supervisor and the Community Development
[37:22] assistant is okay
[37:25] there and
[37:27] and the
[37:30] plan please so on the this lead
[37:33] inspector risk
[37:35] assessor um so there's that that
[37:38] position is filled currently that
[37:41] position is filled um she currently does
[37:44] all of the lead for the home Initiative
[37:47] Program and she runs the lead program
[37:50] that we um contract out to the county so
[37:53] she does the the the the our Le program
[37:57] and the lead that is with the home
[37:58] initiatives that our home ownership
[38:01] coordinator manages okay um so I say see
[38:04] there's a significant increase there yes
[38:08] I would have to get you more information
[38:10] Madam uh president because I'm not privy
[38:13] um to the reasons behind the increase
[38:15] okay if you would thank you I believe I
[38:18] believe uh the increase is due to the
[38:20] fact that
[38:21] the I believe in 2024 the state's going
[38:24] to mandate a our Le speci to uh all
[38:27] projects to be led
[38:29] inspected and what we our plan and the
[38:33] reason why we give this extra boost as I
[38:35] recall there correct me if I'm wrong was
[38:38] that she was going to be training uh uh
[38:40] some of our our code enforcement
[38:42] officers uh because uh and like I says
[38:45] in New York state is going to be
[38:46] mandated that everything will be led
[38:48] inspected so she's going to also be a
[38:51] trainer for them because she has I think
[38:53] probably almost eight nine years of
[38:55] experience already
[38:57] [Music]
[38:58] so that's our plan for future
[39:01] idea so is this the civil service
[39:03] position yes it is is that particular
[39:06] Duty within
[39:08] that position
[39:10] currently like being a trainer is that
[39:13] part of that what's currently in there
[39:14] we'll take a look at it we trying to do
[39:17] it so that we can help our city at least
[39:20] possible cost you know understood but I
[39:22] just want to make sure it's within the
[39:23] duty because if it's not then I'm not
[39:25] sure if this is how we necessarily hand
[39:27] because I know in other departments when
[39:29] people do things that are not within
[39:30] their job description and they pay them
[39:33] so out of class payers a yeah well this
[39:36] this is something like that you know
[39:38] that's why would increase their salary I
[39:39] mean this is something we we she spoke
[39:41] we all spoke about so I will definitely
[39:45] take a look at it thank you for
[39:47] mentioning that thank
[39:49] you can can we go through um Feast for
[39:52] service line and explain um what that
[39:58] comprise uh the biggest the biggest uh
[40:02] as I recall dere one of the biggest
[40:04] things in there is actually uh uh to do
[40:07] with the tree program that uh Kristen
[40:10] had developed as we' seen uh 140 and 23
[40:14] and the 160 not uh not that that that's
[40:18] not just for trees but it's also for our
[40:21] uh Sue uh Sue lomard Su Lombardi who's
[40:25] our uh
[40:27] grant grant writer and manager so you
[40:30] know she's helping us on the with the
[40:33] the comprehensive plan for this year too
[40:35] so it's a a basic uh uh strategy with
[40:39] paying her and the big cost for 2023 and
[40:43] 24 is uh with the tree service that uh
[40:47] uh Kristen had worked
[40:50] on the tree service the tree you know
[40:53] there that tree program so you're paying
[40:55] those you're paying that organization
[40:58] those organizations
[41:00] correct thank you Mr
[41:03] Williams Oh you asked answer my question
[41:05] well if I may uh I was going to ask is
[41:09] that figure the increase of $20,000 for
[41:11] the fees for service anywhere reflectant
[41:14] of those two vacancies so now that
[41:16] you're fing applicants is that going to
[41:19] offset that increase no definitely
[41:23] not that's a question
[41:27] any other question for the Department
[41:31] of St thank you very much one question
[41:35] might not even be necessary but I'm just
[41:37] I'm curious as that that lead inspector
[41:40] recycles that say it again so so lead
[41:42] inspector um is there a certain uh
[41:46] certification that that you have to to
[41:48] do that corre yes you right right right
[41:51] so I was okay
[41:53] so are we looking to to do that those
[41:57] same certifications for all our our our
[41:59] code enforce will have to be
[42:01] certified and our what we're thinking is
[42:03] she'll be able to train them so when
[42:05] they go for certification they have you
[42:07] know they they'll pass it the first shot
[42:09] you know that's that's our hope
[42:11] yeah that seems like a pretty good idea
[42:15] they to save us some money going know
[42:17] that that makes sense that's that's
[42:20] something hope it works out
[42:22] okay any other questions okay thank you
[42:25] thank you
[42:28] okay we'll go back up and get back to
[42:30] our regular
[42:33] schedule we go to city
[42:38] clerk sorry
[42:42] no city council
[42:46] I just a quick uh review city council
[42:51] 81 24os budget
[42:55] 163,000
[42:57] uh budget the same amount so a
[43:02] 0%
[43:05] increase any a
[43:10] question no question on city council
[43:13] just increase come on I just want to
[43:15] mention that we included again in 2024
[43:19] the outside legal services that you were
[43:21] looking for last year weting also put it
[43:23] in for
[43:24] 2024 actually
[43:27] oh I'm going to look it
[43:30] up go ahead please um I thought that we
[43:33] had um put in for a request for an
[43:35] increase for the city council I don't
[43:37] see reflected
[43:39] here for the City Council salaries
[43:42] excuse me stiens they not
[43:47] Sal he's looking down there it's my
[43:51] budget that I submit to you and that I
[43:55] had asked council members if they wanted
[43:57] anything included it was only a response
[44:00] for some of the stuff that music
[44:02] gave so as he said that he asked City
[44:04] Council Members to move on anything
[44:06] including the response he got from um
[44:08] Miss uh Miss Patrick however we' put it
[44:12] through the clerk's office because
[44:13] that's where our our thing came to the
[44:15] request through the clerk's office so we
[44:18] did request it was there was a request
[44:19] it was to the clerk's office because
[44:21] that's what where our budget is showing
[44:24] up okay but departments make requests to
[44:27] me and I have to submit a budget well I
[44:31] understand that but initially you said
[44:31] it's because we didn't say anything to
[44:33] you so I'm just explain that yes in fact
[44:34] that did happen okay so you're saying
[44:37] that you you took it out correct thank
[44:41] you any additional question this okay
[44:44] see none we'll move to the mayor's
[44:50] office okay mayor's office 81 10 24 bu
[44:55] get 368,000
[44:57] 313 the adopted 2023 budget was
[45:02] 6368
[45:04] 669 0%
[45:07] increase and that osed uh 24 budget that
[45:11] fills our
[45:20] positions any
[45:23] question have a question go ahead please
[45:26] um so uh in the mayor's office um
[45:29] there's a administrative assistance to
[45:31] the mayor and there's an increase of
[45:33] about
[45:34] [Music]
[45:37] 11.65% so I was wondering um about that
[45:40] position of that's a significant
[45:44] increase and when the individual was
[45:47] fired uh that was the salary to bring
[45:52] them over did not give any salary
[45:54] increase going forward so that's what
[45:56] they're being paid now this is what
[45:59] they're currently being paid out of your
[46:00] uh
[46:01] hiring recruitment there was extra money
[46:05] in the line item so I have not used it
[46:07] out of the incentive l so the approved
[46:11] budget last year was this 57 390 and so
[46:15] I'm not clear so when you hired them you
[46:17] hired them at the
[46:18] 64
[46:20] correct and that did not come out of
[46:22] your recruitment budget it did no it did
[46:25] not it could there was money in that
[46:27] line where it was vacant so for the
[46:31] accounting we could take it out of the
[46:33] other line and then there would be a
[46:34] surplus in the other line it's just
[46:37] carried in the one existing submitted to
[46:41] you and this is a very new higher is
[46:44] that correct correct thank
[46:48] you and the other
[46:53] questions um yeah just one of the the
[46:55] director operations is that a 4%
[46:57] increase as well or is that higher than
[46:59] that 4% that's 4% should be should be 4%
[47:03] all the rest would be 4% thank
[47:07] you any other
[47:12] questions oh yeah I The Innovation and
[47:15] performance specialist is that position
[47:19] filled is not but we're
[47:24] actively recruiting and interviewing
[47:28] thank
[47:30] you I just want to point out U request
[47:33] for the vacancies there is a document in
[47:37] your package justable the
[47:40] vacancies thank you yeah we'll go
[47:42] through the questions
[47:44] then and the answers okay so let's move
[47:48] on to the Clark's department and that is
[47:51] on
[47:52] page
[47:54] six
[48:05] city clerk the 2024 proposed budget
[48:10] 39433 the adoped budget since 316 215
[48:16] with a 4% increase and this is the total
[48:19] six
[48:23] positions that's Mel you want to wel
[48:26] anything that we need to
[48:27] know any openings that you have there we
[48:30] do the uh Deputy registar is still open
[48:32] it hasn't gone through Civil Service yet
[48:34] in order to get someone tested so we can
[48:36] put them in
[48:38] position the unfortunate thing is with
[48:40] civil service it you hire somebody
[48:42] provisionally and they don't pass maybe
[48:45] one or two times we train somebody and
[48:48] then we' have to fire them even if
[48:50] they're performing
[48:53] well so you're entally I'm sorry move
[48:56] there go ahead please so you're
[48:57] essentially waiting for a list so the
[48:59] people are qualified for the test to
[49:00] come out for the test to come out the
[49:02] test hasn't come out
[49:09] yeah goe my other question is um has
[49:12] your office taken on any additional
[49:15] duties um we have taken on additional
[49:17] duties um we now have to uh with the
[49:22] state we we now have efficient license
[49:26] that we um are selling so anyone that
[49:29] has a friend that wants to you
[49:32] know be the efficient in their wedding
[49:35] oh they can come get a license with us a
[49:38] one day efficient license fishing
[49:48] license married you enjoy expect going
[49:51] fish a lot more you throw in a fishing
[49:54] license when
[49:57] not no not
[50:00] anymore um we've also taken on with the
[50:03] office of can cannabis management we
[50:06] have the uh 30-day notice to the
[50:08] municipalities so we're getting those
[50:10] coming in um during the year we passed
[50:12] legislation where um the zoning officer
[50:15] has to file all her forms with
[50:18] us
[50:23] and I think that's think right
[50:31] now are any
[50:33] questions
[50:35] comments okay seeing
[50:38] none we'll move on who wants to go
[50:44] first
[50:46] okay we'll go to fire department and
[50:50] that is on page
[50:54] 25o
[51:02] please everyone know our new assistant
[51:04] chief George
[51:07] FS so just a quick summary for the fire
[51:10] department uh the account codes are a
[51:13] 3410 to a
[51:15] 3415 the 24 control budget 14 million
[51:20] 31846 in 2023 adopted budget of 12,8
[51:26] 9,48 we're looking at a 10% increase
[51:29] from the 2023 adoped to the 24 proposed
[51:34] uh the proposed budget in approximately
[51:36] 126
[51:37] [Music]
[51:43] positions you want questions thank you
[51:47] you're not going you think come on just
[51:50] want give
[51:52] us um so
[51:57] according to my summary U the 2024
[52:00] budget is 1.3
[52:02] million ler than uh
[52:06] 2023 I have
[52:08] 99.2% of that
[52:12] 8.78% which is 1.2 million plus is due
[52:16] to contractual salary
[52:19] increases uh which leaves us
[52:22] approximately $60,000 or less than a
[52:25] half half a perc increase in
[52:30] operations
[52:32] um we currently have seven openings due
[52:36] to vacancies retired vacancies created
[52:39] by
[52:40] retired uh we
[52:44] have I'm sorry how many vacancies seven
[52:47] seven vacancies due to retirements in
[52:50] 2024 we're anticipating six more
[52:54] retirements currently we have some
[52:56] long-term openings uh
[53:00] three due to uh longterm set two to to
[53:05] 207a injuries on a job and one we of
[53:10] absence so that that's a total of
[53:15] um with the seven vacancies and the Six
[53:18] coming that's 13 positions and then the
[53:21] uh the lead of absence which I'm not
[53:24] certain that person be coming back or
[53:26] not I tend to believe he won't be coming
[53:29] back so we have 14s so we are uh we're
[53:34] going to attempt to hire 14 in
[53:39] 202 uh in 2024 we're going to hire as
[53:44] many paramedics as we can uh and also
[53:47] we're going to hire four unts going to
[53:50] be the first time that we're we're doing
[53:52] that and with that
[53:55] C some additional costs you have to send
[53:57] them not only to the fire academy but
[54:00] also to Hudson Valley for paramedic
[54:03] school and with the emps that's going to
[54:05] be a a long term before you see any
[54:09] return on your investment that's about a
[54:11] year and a
[54:17] half
[54:18] else well I want to just be clear that
[54:21] we have modified the collective arming
[54:24] agreement with local 28 to reduce the
[54:27] salary those individuals coming in so
[54:30] they because they're not fully skilled
[54:32] paramedics so that that differentiation
[54:35] in the salary will compensate for those
[54:39] increased expenses in the
[54:43] training and schooling too right
[54:47] yes okay I think I think you kind of
[54:49] answer my question um it was around so
[54:52] is there anything for like we are hiring
[54:54] people on as EMTs which I think is
[54:57] really I'm sorry I said we're hiring
[54:59] people on as EMTs and um sending them
[55:03] the school is they're like so the
[55:04] agreement that they have to stay on uh
[55:07] for a certain amount of time in order to
[55:10] um receive that benefit or would they is
[55:12] there any type of lack of a better ter
[55:15] kind of clawb say so we come here and
[55:17] invest all this time into somebody
[55:19] training them get their imp medic and
[55:21] then they go I don't know anyone
[55:23] whatever police connect to me but they
[55:24] decide that they want to do that for
[55:25] some reason is there like a window
[55:27] period where they would be responsible
[55:29] to pay uh whatever tuition reimbursement
[55:31] that absolutely so we have a a sliding
[55:34] scale if they leave the first year then
[55:38] they're going to be uh responsible to
[55:41] pay back the city for a certain amounty
[55:44] second year third year four year okay
[55:47] thank
[55:48] you go ahead please I just have one
[55:51] question on um line 3415
[55:55] and I was just wondering um and I'm
[55:57] thinking maybe you might have shifted it
[55:59] to a different line but it looks like
[56:01] we're eliminating the position and I
[56:02] just want no let me make sure I know
[56:05] what you're it's um it's the deputy
[56:08] chief on the hazard hazardous materials
[56:11] 15 it's on page um
[56:15] 30 um and it's the deputy chief you have
[56:18] for hazardous materials okay yeah so we
[56:20] just put him in um maybe in another line
[56:28] Emergency Medical Service fire training
[56:31] no sorry
[56:33] that I just that's that's good I just so
[56:37] we just accounting for a minute we did
[56:40] not eliminate that thank
[56:43] you under
[56:46] preventions he was in has and now we're
[56:49] going to all count for him in fire train
[56:52] yeah okay that's right okay that that is
[56:55] his
[57:00] position thank
[57:02] you
[57:04] done so how many firefighters did we had
[57:07] in 2003 in what
[57:10] year3
[57:16] 2023 um so we're budgeted
[57:19] for9 okay that's not including the chief
[57:22] Comm ass okay so 119 we have 112 on the
[57:27] front line and seven in in Step
[57:31] St seven on on staff on staff right that
[57:35] includes our uh fire investigate fire
[57:38] investigation unit our um our uh
[57:43] Training
[57:44] Division our Hazmat division so that's s
[57:48] that's for in those different divisions
[57:51] so you 112 are front line okay and so
[57:55] this year I asked so were there were the
[57:58] new firefighters that came on in
[58:00] 2023 yes and how many was that I
[58:12] believe we s in 2022 and we hired two oh
[58:17] okay thank
[58:21] you um so also for a
[58:25] 3410 for the public safety Foundation um
[58:29] could you just kind of give what kind of
[58:33] activities are done for that that
[58:36] funding 3410 what's the up 3410
[58:40] 402
[58:43] up
[58:45] yep uh actually that's worked out pretty
[58:47] well we're able to do lot of good things
[58:49] for that very grateful y um so for one
[58:54] part of it goes towards our fire
[58:56] prevention uh program that's where we
[58:59] purchase items for for the children the
[59:03] fire hats uh coloring books fire safety
[59:06] equipment uh so when we go to an
[59:09] event we bring those items and then
[59:11] we're able to get them out okay but also
[59:15] uh last year last year this year we made
[59:19] different donations to William Reus he
[59:22] did several different uh
[59:25] community events that we were able to
[59:28] make a donation to that
[59:31] um the um food drive that was earlier
[59:35] this year we were able to make a
[59:37] donation towards that the um Easter on
[59:41] the hill we're able to make a donation
[59:43] to that so the different community
[59:46] events we're able to help
[59:51] out go ahead please right and also on on
[59:54] l 3411 1330 The Paramedic bonus it
[59:58] doesn't say doesn't give us a number of
[1:00:00] people
[1:00:02] 3411
[1:00:12] 13033 par bonus the
[1:00:19] chief yep so we're all paramics okay so
[1:00:23] everyone in the department get that it's
[1:00:24] it's contractual thank
[1:00:27] you you say for management from
[1:00:32] you that will change the Tad now when we
[1:00:36] hire they will not they will not receive
[1:00:39] that
[1:00:41] until they get their EMP card sorry
[1:00:43] their paramedic card and I think it's
[1:00:45] approximately a year after that before
[1:00:48] and
[1:00:50] that's okay thank you go ahead please
[1:00:54] before I begin Chief I just wanted to
[1:00:56] say definitely congratulations on
[1:00:58] putting into place that uh training
[1:01:00] program uh it's going to be
[1:01:02] revolutionary and I'm definitely excited
[1:01:03] to see how those dividends play for our
[1:01:05] future I'm definitely trying to staff
[1:01:08] that this department is important and
[1:01:09] it's definitely the right step um for
[1:01:13] line
[1:01:14] 83411 406 in service training there is a
[1:01:19] considerable jump is that reflecting of
[1:01:22] having to invest more funds into those
[1:01:23] training indiv ual or is that something
[1:01:26] else 3411 what's the other
[1:01:29] number a
[1:01:32] 341146 in
[1:01:33] service so yeah that that uh takes in
[1:01:37] account sending the
[1:01:40] individuals and another question does
[1:01:42] that reflect the four like is it uh per
[1:01:45] student there is $110,000 or what does
[1:01:48] that can you tell me again that
[1:01:49] breakdown so you said we're investing in
[1:01:52] four EMTs is there a cost Associated to
[1:01:55] their schooling like per dollar is it
[1:01:56] $95 I believe it's six approximately and
[1:01:59] it could change approximately $6,000 per
[1:02:03] student to go to to par school but then
[1:02:06] there are other fees be it fees for the
[1:02:09] college be it book
[1:02:13] supplies thank
[1:02:23] you
[1:02:25] any other
[1:02:28] questions can I see almost what council
[1:02:31] William said when we met I was so
[1:02:33] excited about this program uh you know
[1:02:35] bring EMTs in and training them and did
[1:02:38] did you come up with that did you how
[1:02:40] did you hear about that you like the
[1:02:42] idea I love it there you go seriously
[1:02:46] yeah so um hoping it works out and we
[1:02:49] continue to do that really yeah great
[1:02:53] idea thank you Chief just walk us
[1:02:56] through on the over time line a341
[1:03:02] 1212 last year we budgeted
[1:03:07] 860k and you're asking to POS this year
[1:03:11] 1.57 we've been underestimating that
[1:03:15] line for a
[1:03:17] while uh this is what we feel is a true
[1:03:20] and accurate figure based on D
[1:03:32] experim over that is page page 28 I got
[1:03:36] it on I'm looking on the actual see what
[1:03:39] the actual was
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[1:03:52] [Music]
[1:03:53] today
[1:03:59] [Music]
[1:04:03] this the day there I can't see this oh
[1:04:06] yeah I don't see it we're missing that
[1:04:09] 34 12 342 3412 112 think I'm missing
[1:04:14] that page it's going from 3411 to
[1:04:17] 3413 you can blame that on anony that's
[1:04:20] have nothing to do with
[1:04:23] me
[1:04:26] is this a double
[1:04:31] sided it's just curious year to date uh
[1:04:33] it's uh 740,000 right now 740
[1:04:41] [Music]
[1:04:45] yep you got remember that that is
[1:04:47] through
[1:04:49] September
[1:04:52] that's that's I think September actually
[1:04:55] September so uh you know the biggest uh
[1:04:58] fires and for overtime are going to
[1:05:00] happen September through December where
[1:05:03] everybody just plugs in extra heaters
[1:05:04] and all that
[1:05:06] stuff and we've been um because we're
[1:05:10] shorter we are asking our people to do
[1:05:13] more to cover cover the ships and
[1:05:17] contract they able to when they get paid
[1:05:20] they can take it all in pay or they can
[1:05:22] split it half pay half time
[1:05:24] and because of the increased stress of
[1:05:27] working more a lot more people now are
[1:05:30] taking the time off which creates more
[1:05:32] over
[1:05:34] time back in the day when you didn't
[1:05:36] have the over time you took the money
[1:05:39] now they're able to do that split we
[1:05:42] could always do the split but the trend
[1:05:45] is now more people take the time off the
[1:05:48] actual expense in 2022 is 1.49 million
[1:05:53] for ACT actual overtime expense 22 2020
[1:05:59] 2022 work we're expecting to be the same
[1:06:02] this year not 1.5 that's we're looking
[1:06:05] at 1.5 this
[1:06:07] year oh
[1:06:10] yeah can you provide us an updated
[1:06:13] report it's in here it's right here the
[1:06:16] back back the back yeah he did looks
[1:06:19] like an historical right for fire is
[1:06:22] that what you over
[1:06:27] time I
[1:06:30] thinkig right here it's like it's
[1:06:40] a yeah
[1:06:42] [Music]
[1:06:46] yeah if not we can get get if you don't
[1:06:48] have any up that yeah if you can update
[1:06:52] the pile for us can get that's a copy
[1:06:54] back I would appreciate I don't yeah
[1:06:56] that's fine probably just I know we have
[1:06:58] it just like I have it we probably put
[1:07:01] that pack I
[1:07:04] mistake yeah that's fine all right let's
[1:07:07] move on
[1:07:09] um any other
[1:07:17] question talk about capital budget now
[1:07:19] or
[1:07:20] no me capital budget do you talk about
[1:07:23] that now or no we can if you're okay
[1:07:25] with
[1:07:27] it since we have okay with it yeah
[1:07:30] that's fine fine we can do it think
[1:07:32] since we have them here I'm back let's
[1:07:35] get
[1:07:38] over I think they have one
[1:07:42] big be a good idea for to explain that
[1:07:45] to you
[1:07:46] guys I
[1:07:49] think so the scbas those are
[1:07:52] our our harnesses with our ear
[1:07:55] bottles or we used to go into into
[1:07:59] burning buildings in any other
[1:08:00] environment that
[1:08:03] is but you can't bre right I'll continue
[1:08:07] breing that they have a 10 year life on
[1:08:10] them yeah and we
[1:08:13] have I think October of 2024 they are at
[1:08:17] that end of what uh knowing this was
[1:08:20] coming we tried to apply for a grant a
[1:08:24] FEMA Grant and we were shut down rather
[1:08:26] quickly because they said you do not
[1:08:29] have uh a need absolutely have a need he
[1:08:33] said no you don't have a critical need
[1:08:35] critical need is that your equipment is
[1:08:38] out of
[1:08:39] date okay so in October it'll be out of
[1:08:43] date then we could apply for uh a grant
[1:08:47] but that is usually February March when
[1:08:48] it comes out you don't hear anything
[1:08:50] until whenever June July August it just
[1:08:53] keeps pushing the back that will be
[1:08:55] operating with equipment that is out of
[1:08:58] dat um and then after if if you're
[1:09:02] successful uh and it takes a while
[1:09:06] before you get the money then you have
[1:09:08] to order this stuff and that takes a
[1:09:11] while realistically you could be two
[1:09:13] years out of dat um it was something I
[1:09:17] was very uncomfortable with that's why I
[1:09:19] requested a capital budget 1.2 million
[1:09:24] um is what we're asking for a little bit
[1:09:26] more than that uh we are looking into
[1:09:30] different things that could maybe tap
[1:09:32] that down a bit uh we're looking at
[1:09:34] leases if that's possible we're looking
[1:09:36] at selling back our equipment to recoup
[1:09:39] some
[1:09:41] um and we're looking to get the best
[1:09:43] price so hopefully it won't Fe that much
[1:09:46] and maybe you know a near million or but
[1:09:51] we'll see how that goes uh we would like
[1:09:54] to implement a program moving forward
[1:09:58] where we replace these uh during their
[1:10:01] life instead of waiting to attend yeah
[1:10:03] every three and the third year internal
[1:10:07] discussion now seems to think that maybe
[1:10:10] that's not as great an idea as we once
[1:10:12] thought it was because the technology
[1:10:15] changes so maybe in you know you you buy
[1:10:20] some in three in the third year and then
[1:10:22] at six in the 2third here the technology
[1:10:26] has changed and now you're stuck with
[1:10:28] some stuff that doesn't equal what
[1:10:29] you're
[1:10:30] buying so we would like to explore ways
[1:10:33] of maybe budgeting I don't know if this
[1:10:35] works you budget every 3 and the third
[1:10:38] years for a third and you put that money
[1:10:41] somewhere that you can in 10 years you
[1:10:45] have it just like now if I want to
[1:10:47] purchase a new car ask my wife let's
[1:10:50] budget it and she says no and I don't
[1:10:52] get a new car but that's a differ St but
[1:10:55] if you
[1:10:55] can that's the idea so if you guys are
[1:10:59] going to be my wife and tell me no that
[1:11:03] I go ahead please um
[1:11:06] so is so how many is this This 1.2 how
[1:11:11] many Do It um how many cbas does that so
[1:11:16] it would be 50 50 for the for the uh
[1:11:19] front line then 10 specialty units that
[1:11:23] go on our on our trucks on our ladder
[1:11:26] trucks they hook into uh a system where
[1:11:29] you can breath off uh while you're
[1:11:32] operating on on the platform and then
[1:11:35] two rapid intervention uh CBS which are
[1:11:39] different that's when if you have to go
[1:11:41] in to get somebody that they don't have
[1:11:44] enough air you can buddy breed with them
[1:11:46] but it's a different cook up
[1:11:49] so talk 62 different
[1:11:54] so my followup question is just will you
[1:11:56] be applying for the FEMA Grant again in
[1:11:59] other words like when the time comes
[1:12:01] when it comes out in February March or
[1:12:03] whatever you said you'd probably apply
[1:12:04] for that again and try again or if you
[1:12:08] approve the capital budget then we don't
[1:12:10] have an urgent need that they won't look
[1:12:12] at
[1:12:12] it that that's the the Lima we're in oh
[1:12:15] so okay so because we'll buy these
[1:12:18] immediately upon approving the budget
[1:12:21] the money will be available on April
[1:12:22] then it takes time yeah I got you okay
[1:12:26] but then when if we were to apply for a
[1:12:30] Fant and they said you have you have
[1:12:33] funding yeah we have funding so you
[1:12:36] don't you don't apply now I mean you
[1:12:39] don't yeah yeah it force you into yeah
[1:12:44] um either go this Ro here or operating
[1:12:47] with equipment that's out of date yeah
[1:12:50] we we use our equipment pretty hard yeah
[1:12:53] um you know the number of Pires we have
[1:12:56] you can operate after 10 years but
[1:12:58] that's not something I'm comforable
[1:13:04] with Chief how many you have now how
[1:13:06] many units you have now we have 62 unit
[1:13:09] yeah so we're just replacing what we
[1:13:12] have
[1:13:14] okay any other
[1:13:18] question okay chief you are all good
[1:13:22] thank you very much thank you everybody
[1:13:24] a good weekend thank you me
[1:13:26] too and we
[1:13:33] move
[1:13:37] utilities p
[1:13:39] 11 here we goes with ch
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[1:13:48] point
[1:13:50] Thank Take Care thank you all
[1:13:57] thank
[1:13:59] [Music]
[1:14:04] you
[1:14:07] [Music]
[1:14:08] m
[1:14:22] sir
[1:14:25] yeah so they have different section here
[1:14:28] so we'll go through one section at a
[1:14:30] time unless you want me to do a summ
[1:14:34] general a general summary for all them
[1:14:36] and then you have a summary for all of
[1:14:37] them yes okay I them off
[1:14:42] okay all right so forties
[1:14:46] ad2 we're proposing for the 24 budget
[1:14:51] 36547 the 23 buget
[1:14:56] 2,99 looking at a
[1:14:58] 75% increase in this three positions
[1:15:02] um the utility sign and traffic 83310 to
[1:15:07] a331 proposed budget of
[1:15:12] 79636 adopted budget 2023 762 817 that's
[1:15:17] a 4% increase nine POS nine positions uh
[1:15:21] the street lighting a
[1:15:24] 182 looking at 24 proposed budget
[1:15:27] 1.69 million the
[1:15:31] 2023 uh was 2,2
[1:15:34] 2,771
[1:15:35] 350 um that's a 39% de there um central
[1:15:41] Communication a650 proposed budget 2024
[1:15:45] 60,000 2023 adopted budget 95,000 that's
[1:15:50] a 37%
[1:15:52] decrease and we last one is Central date
[1:15:55] of processing 1680 of the 24 proposed
[1:15:59] budget
[1:16:01] 83412 the adopted 2023 budget
[1:16:05] 63984 it's a 27% increase that's six
[1:16:12] positions good all right all over to you
[1:16:15] thank you Derek thank you ber you have
[1:16:18] um charts outlining the differences
[1:16:21] between 24 and 23 for all the individual
[1:16:24] line items um bring your attention to
[1:16:28] a620 Ton's
[1:16:30] Administration there a couple plan
[1:16:32] requirements in 2024 which will require
[1:16:35] a change in um positions we're
[1:16:37] recommending a change in positions
[1:16:39] within this budget um we're proposing
[1:16:42] adding an
[1:16:43] ips3 uh and reducing one of the
[1:16:45] full-time positions to a time period of
[1:16:48] of six months that we'll see within that
[1:16:51] um Pro
[1:16:55] um let's see uh also there's uh uh due
[1:16:59] to the plan retirements there's addition
[1:17:01] of line items for unused vacation and um
[1:17:05] sick bleed payoff and there's really no
[1:17:08] other major increases or changes in um
[1:17:12] the a61 overall did you say how many
[1:17:15] have I did uh two two
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[1:17:22] re
[1:17:24] that's the whole
[1:17:26] department pretty
[1:17:28] much what do that's the whole department
[1:17:31] yeah
[1:17:32] exactly it is but we' made uh um you
[1:17:36] know recommendations to um make
[1:17:39] something um as seamless as possible of
[1:17:44] [Music]
[1:17:45] transition my hands up yeah go ahead
[1:17:47] please follow me so um for the unus SI
[1:17:50] leave 119,000
[1:17:54] 991 so that's for those two individuals
[1:17:57] it is that will
[1:17:59] be leaving
[1:18:03] correct all right so I thought with sick
[1:18:05] time is it sick time which is that you
[1:18:07] can't carry over is a vacation or sick
[1:18:10] you're limited on long time so that
[1:18:12] we're under old rules oh you're under
[1:18:15] the old rules and does this include you
[1:18:17] as well it does for the retirement yeah
[1:18:20] so question that I wish had been
[1:18:22] answered years ago but here it is so as
[1:18:25] I every year I asked you was there
[1:18:26] someone else that would be you know we'
[1:18:28] be would be able to slide seamlessly
[1:18:31] into your position well like they said
[1:18:33] uh within on the budget recommendations
[1:18:36] that we've made there different
[1:18:37] positions that we've added and changed
[1:18:40] um to make this as seamless as possible
[1:18:43] um change over there still needs to be
[1:18:45] somebody um you know that position of um
[1:18:49] signal superintendent is still in there
[1:18:51] and it does need to be
[1:18:53] um filled under my
[1:18:55] um my feeling is it should continue and
[1:18:59] you know we're going to um um what to uh
[1:19:04] replace that
[1:19:05] individual is that a is that a civil
[1:19:07] service position it
[1:19:09] is so we're going to be in the same
[1:19:11] position where people have to test and
[1:19:13] all that yeah you can hire people
[1:19:17] provisionally are there any special
[1:19:19] licenses or anything that that go with
[1:19:20] that I there's there's minimum require
[1:19:23] sure but no
[1:19:25] Li thank
[1:19:28] you any additional question on under
[1:19:31] utilities
[1:19:34] Administration okay let's move
[1:19:38] to here let's do um central
[1:19:41] Communication that is page
[1:19:48] 14 and that
[1:19:50] [Music]
[1:19:51] roll or 1650 1650 1650 okay 1650
[1:19:58] um goes up and down you can look at the
[1:20:00] chart in there uh one year it's up one
[1:20:03] year it's down um the proposed amount is
[1:20:06] $60,000 which is actually a reduction of
[1:20:09] 35,000 from um 23 um partially due to
[1:20:15] the biannual maintenance thing we talked
[1:20:17] about before we pay every two years for
[1:20:19] the maintenance we get a little discount
[1:20:21] so one year it's up one year it's down
[1:20:23] but we've also been able to uh reduce a
[1:20:25] little more um based on our um fiber
[1:20:29] plant installation that we've been doing
[1:20:31] so that uh um we're R still reducing um
[1:20:35] least line costs so um that continues to
[1:20:38] go down and um we're frankly in a
[1:20:41] position that it's going to continue to
[1:20:43] go down for the next um couple years in
[1:20:45] my
[1:20:47] estimation very nice yeah all
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[1:20:51] right
[1:20:54] question on this
[1:20:56] section see none let's move to Central
[1:20:58] data
[1:20:59] processing okay um 1680 it uh Central
[1:21:04] data processing budget shows an increase
[1:21:06] of almost
[1:21:09] $170,000 um primarily due to the
[1:21:12] retirements we talked about um in the
[1:21:15] 1620 admin and the need to have um
[1:21:19] additional positions um you know long
[1:21:22] story short over three decades the admin
[1:21:25] staff had taken on a lot of
[1:21:27] responsibilities that really weren't you
[1:21:30] know um in the correct place but you
[1:21:34] know I've been here so long frankly it
[1:21:36] started um you know we never we had one
[1:21:40] big server in the other room people
[1:21:41] didn't have desktops in their their
[1:21:44] offices we didn't have uh uh email for
[1:21:48] everyone I think we had five email
[1:21:49] addresses when I started you know in the
[1:21:51] city if that many so lot
[1:21:55] CH no citya
[1:21:59] address did you invent the I didn't say
[1:22:03] that but there was no internet here
[1:22:07] start so um yeah so um you know we're
[1:22:12] now putting a lot of this into the IT
[1:22:15] department where it belongs um and um
[1:22:19] and we're looking to have an is um
[1:22:23] ips3 uh and an additional IT specialist
[1:22:26] Web Master are proposed in this budget
[1:22:29] to help take some of that um workload
[1:22:32] and split it up where it
[1:22:34] belongs um other major things uh in
[1:22:39] service training is shifted from the
[1:22:41] administration cost um and an increase
[1:22:44] uh in our fees for service budget of
[1:22:47] about the
[1:22:49] um
[1:22:51] $225,000 that that fees for services uh
[1:22:54] is for our financial software our code
[1:22:57] enforcement software Microsoft
[1:23:00] 365 uh our security uh software for our
[1:23:04] internet um as well as maintenance of
[1:23:07] our um um um critical Network
[1:23:11] infrastructure so that continues to rise
[1:23:15] but it's such an important
[1:23:17] um cost that have covered in different
[1:23:21] areas
[1:23:25] you said something about the inservice
[1:23:27] training yes uh I said some of it
[1:23:30] shifted from the um 1620 administration
[1:23:34] because it's not needed there as much as
[1:23:36] it would be needed in the it um to
[1:23:39] continue to have these people trained in
[1:23:42] cyber security and the newer equipment
[1:23:45] that we have out there okay thank
[1:23:47] [Music]
[1:23:51] you
[1:23:54] any other question on Central that
[1:23:58] Pro go ahead please uh Mr Kio I know you
[1:24:02] mentioned trying to right side some of
[1:24:03] the roles and responsibilities making
[1:24:05] sure that they fall to the not only the
[1:24:07] appropriate person but the appropriate
[1:24:09] persons to handle that workload does
[1:24:11] that Encompass all roles and
[1:24:13] responsibilities or just the individuals
[1:24:16] retiring that makes sense I'm not sure I
[1:24:18] understand your question so we tried to
[1:24:21] outline
[1:24:23] in our heads as much as possible um
[1:24:26] sufficient staff to handle the duties
[1:24:30] that were um originally in the
[1:24:34] administration um budget that answer
[1:24:37] your question um and maintaining that
[1:24:40] position for the traffic duties that
[1:24:44] that position originally um would have
[1:24:47] been
[1:24:50] hand so our new the new high whenever
[1:24:53] that happens will not have as many
[1:24:55] duties as you currently do have taken on
[1:24:57] over the years correct
[1:25:00] okay thank
[1:25:03] you any other
[1:25:06] questions we're still going to do like
[1:25:08] sign maintenance and traffic yep
[1:25:12] okay I have all
[1:25:15] my we just have no food It's all under U
[1:25:19] ility so I wasn't sure yes so we're
[1:25:21] moving on to page AG 22 utility sign
[1:25:24] main that speaks volumes in itself not
[1:25:28] even in the same places you know what I
[1:25:32] mean what page page 22 got
[1:25:37] it and I will roll
[1:25:39] into 20 23 so sign maintenance there's
[1:25:43] really no major changes in this budget
[1:25:47] the increase is like $88,000 mostly due
[1:25:50] to uh negotiated contra
[1:25:53] changes um I know there was a a late
[1:25:57] question from councilwoman Patrick
[1:25:59] concerning um whether or not there were
[1:26:02] dollars in there for traffic cing um
[1:26:06] techniques there's certainly dollars in
[1:26:08] there for signage most traffic cing
[1:26:12] devices require big dollars and they
[1:26:15] would you typically be either in a
[1:26:18] capital or
[1:26:20] um you know chips uh funded project or
[1:26:25] something like that to be quite honest
[1:26:26] with
[1:26:29] you looking at looking at the painters
[1:26:32] painter there's so increase is because
[1:26:36] cont cont they're in contract
[1:26:39] negotiation go please so um it's about
[1:26:44] so these signs I'm seeing I was driving
[1:26:46] around last night and I see this there's
[1:26:47] like this additional I don't know if
[1:26:49] this comes under us this additional
[1:26:51] thing on the sign where it's illuminated
[1:26:54] it's those reflectors that are going
[1:26:55] down the is that something that we're
[1:26:57] currently doing okay
[1:27:00] and how do we decide where they
[1:27:03] go well I think many of what you see
[1:27:07] were part of a capital project that Mr
[1:27:11] wiing did that and when he replaced the
[1:27:14] signs um he had them add that device um
[1:27:19] brings much more attention to the sign
[1:27:22] be able to um see it um you know CU I
[1:27:27] saw Rand good idea on conso road the one
[1:27:30] you know Council world had signs stop
[1:27:32] signs going all the way up one of them
[1:27:33] had that on it night so I just figing
[1:27:35] trying to figure out how we've also used
[1:27:38] it before where we've had signs that
[1:27:40] were um hit struck regularly right to
[1:27:44] bring more attention to the fact that
[1:27:47] it's there
[1:27:50] okay thank you go ahead so back to the
[1:27:54] traffic coming equipment and door
[1:27:56] signage or whatever we need um obviously
[1:27:58] it's been something that we've been
[1:27:59] talking about quite a bit Mr Paul many
[1:28:02] introduced some things I mean we've been
[1:28:04] just talking you know I know that you
[1:28:06] and Mr Wallen are going to be coming
[1:28:08] back to us with some some plans so if
[1:28:10] it's not in the
[1:28:12] budget how do we I mean it's hard to
[1:28:15] budget something if we don't know the
[1:28:17] magnitude of what we're talking about um
[1:28:21] you know we talked um we've had some
[1:28:23] installation of he speed bump pumps
[1:28:26] right you know those are um there's high
[1:28:28] cost to them um and we need to figure
[1:28:32] out a a true way of making sure that
[1:28:35] just one phone call cannot you know
[1:28:39] um make someone think that they can get
[1:28:41] that right there has to be a plan um one
[1:28:43] of the great things about U being able
[1:28:45] to collect the data like we're
[1:28:47] collecting now is you know we have some
[1:28:49] information to back that up um you
[1:28:52] certainly can take a number and throw it
[1:28:54] out there to be able to have
[1:28:57] available um you know to be used for
[1:29:01] that but I think we need a plan yeah
[1:29:05] [Music]
[1:29:08] first any other question on sign Manas
[1:29:11] please in some features could actually
[1:29:14] be designed in the paving
[1:29:16] program so the money that's there there
[1:29:18] may be modifications either in the way
[1:29:21] the street is laid out for in the
[1:29:24] delineation we put on it for striping
[1:29:26] and other Market absolutely
[1:29:32] y any other question on this section
[1:29:34] let's move on to utilities
[1:29:37] traffic so the uh 24 utilities a 3311
[1:29:43] traffic budget also has a planned
[1:29:45] retirement um which requires another uh
[1:29:48] line a couple line items for unused
[1:29:51] vacation and Si leave
[1:29:55] um there is a reduction in the uh 200
[1:29:59] equipment line um that brings it back
[1:30:03] down so uh the 24 request is about
[1:30:08] $26,000 more in total more than the um
[1:30:11] 23 adopted
[1:30:13] budget and that's um those are the only
[1:30:16] major changes in there I think that was
[1:30:19] uh another question you had so in 23
[1:30:22] this year the equipment code of $60,000
[1:30:27] that request was used to purchase um a
[1:30:30] large number of traffic controllers so
[1:30:33] that um back to our fiber deployment
[1:30:37] right so we put so much fiber out um
[1:30:40] we're replacing the old traffic signal
[1:30:43] controllers on State Street um primarily
[1:30:46] with new ones that have ethernet based
[1:30:49] control so that we can communicate with
[1:30:51] with them as the old system that we had
[1:30:54] uh no longer works so that gave us um an
[1:30:59] sufficient number of traffic signal
[1:31:01] controllers actually haven't even
[1:31:04] received them yet we're waiting for them
[1:31:06] um to be able to um go all the way up to
[1:31:08] the City Line put coordination back in
[1:31:11] there um lets us know if a lights on
[1:31:14] flash if there's a problem with one
[1:31:16] sends us messages really good to have so
[1:31:19] um
[1:31:20] um the 24 budget I think dropped down to
[1:31:24] what 20,000 so I'm looking for a few
[1:31:27] more to continue that program but not on
[1:31:30] um not on a large scale um I think it's
[1:31:33] important we saw the uh fire department
[1:31:35] before here asking for large some of
[1:31:38] money to replace all those units at the
[1:31:40] same time we need to make sure that we
[1:31:42] replace pieces of them every year right
[1:31:45] and not the entire thing in the future
[1:31:48] right to make sure that uh uh we don't
[1:31:50] have that big number so that that's what
[1:31:52] I'm I'm asking to continue um with a
[1:31:54] smaller amount but yet still continue
[1:31:57] the um project of updating possible
[1:32:01] thank
[1:32:03] you any other
[1:32:06] questions
[1:32:07] traic okay seeing none we'll move
[1:32:11] to page I just so I know I I heard what
[1:32:16] you were saying around you really want
[1:32:18] to know like what the scope of the
[1:32:20] project could be before you could come
[1:32:21] ex money that makes sense um I'm just I
[1:32:24] guess and I don't know I think maybe
[1:32:27] might be in to say way things here
[1:32:29] um this is something that um residents
[1:32:33] are constantly talking about it's
[1:32:35] something that we're constantly talking
[1:32:37] about so would it would it be wise to
[1:32:39] try to
[1:32:41] um uh is there any projected number that
[1:32:45] you could think that be I I just I just
[1:32:47] say that cuz if are we're going to be
[1:32:49] able to be responsive totally get it I'm
[1:32:51] saying to you is that traffic caling
[1:32:54] methods there's so many different ones
[1:32:56] if we're talking about certain types of
[1:32:58] signage money in here buy some signs you
[1:33:01] know if we're talking about U uh you
[1:33:04] know major rehab that's um you know like
[1:33:08] the mayor spoke of uh you redesigning
[1:33:11] streets you know that have been
[1:33:13] roundabouts thrown out there some of
[1:33:15] those are big dollars you know so it's
[1:33:16] hard to to judge uh where you want to go
[1:33:19] with that but um just variables really
[1:33:22] come up okay sense
[1:33:25] so I don't have a great answer for you
[1:33:29] got
[1:33:30] real maybe we'll be able to find some as
[1:33:33] we move forward so I do have a little
[1:33:34] bit further questions about that because
[1:33:36] we tried the traffic comes on one street
[1:33:39] and then we're supposed to hear back
[1:33:40] like how did it work etc haven't heard
[1:33:43] that I understand that one's been
[1:33:44] removed the other state has stayed in
[1:33:46] place M on the same street and my
[1:33:49] understanding was it was it was a
[1:33:50] demonstration project so we could GA
[1:33:52] gather the data correct and that they
[1:33:55] would then be moved to another Street
[1:33:56] both of those but that hasn't happened
[1:33:58] and at this point in time we haven't
[1:34:00] even heard how well it worked where it
[1:34:02] was so there was a little back and forth
[1:34:05] I don't believe that they've completed
[1:34:06] the evaluation of it yet remember these
[1:34:09] are things that were not planned to stay
[1:34:12] out during the winter because they were
[1:34:14] Rubber and although they might stay the
[1:34:17] chances are they would be damaged by um
[1:34:20] flows so um I will get back to you um
[1:34:24] with that information I I know that
[1:34:26] Chris and the police were working on it
[1:34:28] um I haven't heard anything um the last
[1:34:32] couple of days but I will check and find
[1:34:33] out definitely should have that
[1:34:35] information all right I was just
[1:34:36] wondering if if if the if the data that
[1:34:40] you were gathering was based on two I'm
[1:34:42] sorry if the if you were doing the
[1:34:44] demonstration based on two and why was
[1:34:47] one removed and not the other because
[1:34:49] then it just kind of throws it all off i
[1:34:51] s myself I I don't know why why they
[1:34:53] only removed one maybe it was planning
[1:34:56] and they didn't have enough guys to do
[1:34:58] it I I don't know I'll check on that all
[1:35:00] right is that I don't think there I
[1:35:02] thought they mve one to near the school
[1:35:05] as far yeah the one at the school was
[1:35:07] gone one at school's gone yeah oh okay
[1:35:10] but you're saying the other one is still
[1:35:12] there I I'll find out cuz Mr Wallin said
[1:35:15] weeks ago that oh we're taking them out
[1:35:17] and sure enough one was gone I was like
[1:35:19] oh they're both gone but I kept driving
[1:35:20] and are not both gone so and so are you
[1:35:23] also saying that we the second part of
[1:35:25] the demonstration project that we talked
[1:35:27] about we was going to move near Rugby
[1:35:29] Road for 10 weeks because it overstayed
[1:35:31] at the first place so that's not going
[1:35:34] to happen before the winter I I would
[1:35:37] have to talk to Chris I I wasn't
[1:35:40] programming it to be honest with you but
[1:35:41] I will find out and we'll get that
[1:35:43] information back to you all right thank
[1:35:45] you any
[1:35:47] question okay let's move on to
[1:35:50] page
[1:35:52] turkey
[1:35:54] seven liting yep is that's your last one
[1:35:57] it's my last
[1:35:59] [Music]
[1:36:04] one last
[1:36:07] one
[1:36:09] 85182 um there's a few increases in the
[1:36:12] 2024 uh uh Street lighting budget we're
[1:36:15] asking for $70,000 increase in um uh 402
[1:36:20] Administration expense and that's to
[1:36:22] cover our yearly maintenance of genitech
[1:36:25] and our ubiquity Smart City devices um
[1:36:28] previously they were covered by um
[1:36:31] National Grid during the beginning of
[1:36:32] the Rev demonstration project but that's
[1:36:35] um that's uh uh being phased out so uh
[1:36:39] we would be taking that uh payment over
[1:36:43] um just so you know since the Inception
[1:36:45] uh of that uh project we've uh uh
[1:36:48] downloaded over 4,000 videos that were
[1:36:51] used in police and fire investigations
[1:36:53] and um most recently started using the
[1:36:56] analytic uh uh um components of them to
[1:37:00] provide the US with the traffic volumes
[1:37:02] and speeds on um uh King's Road so um my
[1:37:07] feeling is that there's Great Value to
[1:37:09] that and um it's an important feature
[1:37:12] that uh uh we should continue
[1:37:15] with um questions
[1:37:19] comments we also looking for can I
[1:37:22] finish my other too okay so we're also
[1:37:25] looking for an increase in the uh uh 425
[1:37:28] light power in gas is based on the
[1:37:30] history of the account and um you know
[1:37:33] corresponding increases in electric and
[1:37:35] um um gas rates and lastly the 5182 uh
[1:37:41] 425a is being eliminated in the 24
[1:37:44] proposed budget um that's the Rev
[1:37:46] demonstration money um as we're
[1:37:49] currently in negotiations with National
[1:37:51] Grid uh uh on this
[1:37:55] item thank you any
[1:38:00] questions seeing none we'll move to
[1:38:04] Capital so one Capital request and um
[1:38:08] we'll ask our chief technology officer
[1:38:11] Mr to um provide some details on why he
[1:38:15] wants what he
[1:38:16] [Music]
[1:38:18] wants yes our current infrastructure sir
[1:38:21] um server and which we have is we did
[1:38:25] the ma of R in 2015 and it's almost like
[1:38:29] up life of those stor
[1:38:34] [Music]
[1:38:36] and 2024 February so we have to act on
[1:38:40] it and we have to upate the
[1:38:42] [Music]
[1:38:44] server this existing server won't even
[1:38:47] take the new software so we are like
[1:38:50] bound to to up these servos and Stor as
[1:38:54] well I'm talking about servos here and
[1:38:57] also on our other
[1:38:59] site we
[1:39:06] have how many servers are you talking in
[1:39:08] total uh three servers we do the same
[1:39:11] three two over here one over
[1:39:15] there any questions go ahead please no
[1:39:19] no I'm scratching
[1:39:21] sorry so questions you have replace
[1:39:25] computer servers and body cameras I was
[1:39:27] under the impression that axon that
[1:39:29] contractual agreement was going to be
[1:39:30] supplying us body1
[1:39:35] cameras oh right got
[1:39:38] disregard yeah I like wait he he could
[1:39:41] probably help you with that question no
[1:39:44] no right about that 200,000 any other
[1:39:49] questions thanks
[1:39:51] all right I think we're done it yeah
[1:39:58] easy some reason Anthony I have do five
[1:40:03] jobs
[1:40:06] too P page 16 let's go through these two
[1:40:09] items so that I we can get it out 16
[1:40:12] page
[1:40:13] 16 I'm sorry what is judgement and claim
[1:40:16] judgement Anda
[1:40:18] right for some reason show was part of
[1:40:21] the schedule yes I saw that yeah the
[1:40:25] Judgment claims is the same amount as we
[1:40:28] had at
[1:40:29] 20123 um uh the Judgment claims that
[1:40:32] that is
[1:40:34] the the account that we pay our claims
[1:40:37] out of uh especially uh in the most
[1:40:40] recently those big payment claims and uh
[1:40:45] we're settling a lot of those contracts
[1:40:47] we feel that this is going to go down as
[1:40:49] you recall we're settling most of the
[1:40:51] contracts of this last one that we're
[1:40:53] we're settling in the next thing is over
[1:40:57] 10 years old you know it's one it's one
[1:41:00] of the uh ones last ones that were
[1:41:02] hanging out there uh the the sary uh
[1:41:05] claims over there 15,000 for you know
[1:41:08] claims for our tax whatever uh according
[1:41:12] to Molly I spoke to her we do not have
[1:41:14] anything big out there plan but it's
[1:41:17] always good to have you know to keep
[1:41:18] that amount in case uh anything happens
[1:41:21] or we have to use it to you know
[1:41:23] transfer it into judgment and
[1:41:27] claims okay to care
[1:41:30] that any other
[1:41:33] business we have a motion we are not
[1:41:36] we're not
[1:41:37] [Music]
[1:41:39] at motion to recess Mo recess second all
[1:41:44] in favor I thank you everyone have a
[1:41:47] good evening good
[1:41:49] we
[1:41:51] [Music]
[1:42:07] yeah probably came from some of this
[1:42:09] stuff thank
[1:42:12] you thank you oh jeez got up too
[1:42:18] fast so I don't need to forward your
[1:42:20] question you already forwarded I did I
[1:42:22] copied them so they had it so
[1:42:27] okay I don't think I'll have any more
[1:42:29] just trying to just take care of for
[1:42:32] today pretty sure I went through most of
[1:42:34] everything else
[1:42:41] [Music]
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