[0:01] all your
[0:02] requests
[0:06] yeah dates
[0:09] it's the cdvg
[0:12] foroni the
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[0:20] assessment
[0:26] should thank you how about you have
[0:32] my then
[0:58] again
[1:02] I'd like to call the ordance make city
[1:03] council committee meeting for Wednesday
[1:06] October 18th 2023 and I'll turn up to Mr
[1:09] muton thank you I would like to
[1:12] reconvene finance
[1:15] committee and there is one item that we
[1:17] need to address a follow from last
[1:19] meeting and it has to do with the human
[1:21] resource
[1:25] department have some question from
[1:28] Mr
[1:33] [Music]
[1:57] it's on page eight
[2:06] okay
[2:07] [Music]
[2:11] L
[2:21] questions you have some questions
[2:23] regarding you want to go ahead certainly
[2:25] um so I noticed in the budget when uh
[2:28] Miss Ali was here that there's two
[2:30] office excuse me two positions that were
[2:33] removed from the budget um the positions
[2:35] weren't removed I should say that they
[2:36] weren't funded and they were
[2:39] the assistant yeah I'm just wonder about
[2:42] his office you mean the assistant yeah
[2:45] he doesn't have control over
[2:47] that so about the affirmative action um
[2:50] offices so the uh affirmative action
[2:53] office clerical Aid and program
[2:55] coordinator neither of those were funded
[2:57] this year so um just really want to know
[3:00] from you that was that was a decision
[3:02] that you wanted to make or no I I would
[3:05] ask that you Rec considerer that we've
[3:07] been working to try to get you know
[3:09] these positions funded they're very very
[3:11] desperately needed to assist the work
[3:13] that we're trying to do in this off of
[3:14] affirmative action uh we just now
[3:17] completed the U in process so we sent
[3:21] one selection up to the to the mayor's
[3:23] office today consideration so you know
[3:25] so that's up there and also uh a a
[3:30] challenging Jal situation in terms of
[3:32] affirmative action office and
[3:34] Empowerment Center the both connected to
[3:38] what we're trying to do with the 18
[3:39] office Hader funded and all that but
[3:43] since we've had such a
[3:45] um cost overrun in terms of being able
[3:48] to get the building done and get
[3:49] everything on track to make it move
[3:51] forward it's it's been almost impossible
[3:54] to say how can we you know get to you
[3:57] know position in that to run the program
[3:58] if not going run the programs out of so
[4:01] that was the one issue that was you know
[4:05] in in contention for me but we did you
[4:07] know work with and I want to come back
[4:09] to you um to discuss at at another time
[4:13] the reappropriation you know of the the
[4:16] office fund to go more toward the
[4:18] programming side and so therefore we're
[4:21] able to serve the community and do the
[4:22] things we want to do Asos being locked
[4:24] down to the to the capital
[4:26] infrastructure of the of the building I
[4:28] want to come back
[4:30] that but in terms of the two positions
[4:34] they're critical in the sense that you
[4:36] know we definitely need help in terms of
[4:38] the day-to-day operations of what we're
[4:40] doing down here what TR do to service C
[4:43] and you know get the word out and
[4:45] service and and hold true to the mission
[4:47] so um there it's been a process to to do
[4:51] that you a lot of people and you know
[4:54] it's just been hard so we got to we got
[4:57] the first part of it the um you know
[4:59] think very close to being ready with the
[5:01] 7s you know move that forward for
[5:03] consideration but in terms of program
[5:05] we've been doing you know a lot of
[5:07] things that um require the help you know
[5:10] you talk about creating U access to
[5:13] Opportunities U you know word available
[5:17] in terms of you know what we have to
[5:18] offer and what we're trying to do
[5:20] specifically to Workforce Development
[5:22] and training working with our partners
[5:24] and you know just trying to develop the
[5:26] whole program in a quality fashion so
[5:28] that it's sustainable
[5:30] and deliver the results they were trying
[5:31] to do so I think we'll be able to move
[5:33] forward with the quality sustainable
[5:36] program and a product that's going to
[5:37] make the city proud and we'll be able to
[5:40] deliver what the uh what the community
[5:42] is asking for so follow question you
[5:45] said that you submitted something to the
[5:47] um mayor's office which one of these
[5:49] positions was it for for a clerical a
[5:51] clerical a um and it's my understanding
[5:53] that someone was hired at one point but
[5:56] it didn't work could you could you speak
[5:58] to that a little bit yeah that that
[5:59] didn't work I went to the state so oh
[6:02] simply didn't work out here right so it
[6:05] wasn't for lack of trying you did have
[6:06] someone employed but they decided didn't
[6:09] have start they didn't start they just
[6:10] accepted the job but didn't start right
[6:12] right
[6:13] okay all right so but you you have
[6:15] reached out because I just you know
[6:17] wanted to ask those questions um because
[6:19] I just want to be frank that um we were
[6:21] told that that there had been you had
[6:23] been submitted several applications but
[6:25] not had not considered any of the people
[6:27] well we' considered a lot I mean we've
[6:29] and you know it's a process you know um
[6:32] you get you know 10 20 applications you
[6:34] call them all you know you know the B
[6:37] don't answer don't show up or whatever
[6:39] you know so that process and some don't
[6:40] work out but you know we've been going
[6:42] through that process and um you know I'm
[6:45] very comfortable with what you know
[6:47] we've come out with to you to get this
[6:49] started um so my last question if if
[6:53] between these two positions because
[6:55] neither one of them have been funded at
[6:57] this point if you said if we said like
[6:58] we can only fund one one or the other um
[7:01] from your perspective as the person who
[7:02] runs the office which would you have
[7:05] chosen well well I I have to go with the
[7:08] data uh you know the data entry person
[7:10] because that's you know where we're
[7:12] getting B down the most you know so much
[7:15] is coming in and just keeping up with
[7:16] things so that's you know that's one
[7:18] thing the the other position is is
[7:21] important too because um there's a lot
[7:24] of support that we get from within the
[7:27] current administration of the city that
[7:29] that ABS a lot of those things that
[7:31] typically would not be done you
[7:33] specifically Civ Heth Ministry in terms
[7:36] of gr writing identifying gr
[7:39] opportuni um connections and
[7:41] relationships with Department that we're
[7:42] trying to work with when it come to the
[7:43] Community College the school district U
[7:47] you know all these things uh it takes
[7:49] time you know a year ago we started
[7:52] working
[7:52] on with the school district to talk
[7:55] about a Workforce initiative so that's
[7:56] been last September here we are this
[8:00] year we just not getting to the point
[8:01] where they're coming back with their
[8:03] draft or they want to move forward so
[8:05] everything just takes a very long time
[8:08] and the uh and we need to be in a
[8:11] position to go after the funding we need
[8:12] to go after the gr so we can sustain the
[8:14] program once we you know get them done
[8:17] so we do talk with
[8:19] funders
[8:21] [Music]
[8:22] f talking with you know the district you
[8:25] know what resources can they bring to
[8:28] be Community College you know they work
[8:30] with us Workforce
[8:32] ini program what can they they do so you
[8:36] know many things that they can do uh you
[8:38] know retrospect is you know it may be
[8:41] like non-ash you know transaction but
[8:43] they consist with staff for example the
[8:46] col they do like all the screening and
[8:48] taking the applicants and all that but
[8:50] it's tax in on them to keep up trying to
[8:54] keep up people so you know we do what we
[8:58] can to you it happen and you know keep
[9:01] doing and then we still you know go to
[9:03] outside resources looking for funding so
[9:07] we were talk for a whole year with the
[9:09] group that want to support the you know
[9:11] the Empowerment Center you know itself
[9:14] and they will you know they would come
[9:15] you know with some you know significant
[9:17] funding but they didn't want to get
[9:18] involved with the capital P you know
[9:20] nothing to do with the building but
[9:21] programming P you
[9:24] know you know something that we you know
[9:27] what happen you know this conversation
[9:30] like that is why this this coordinating
[9:33] piece becomes critical because somebody
[9:36] strong enough to have those
[9:38] conversations and you know and sometime
[9:41] you know we're not as ex to the
[9:43] traditional routes you know we don't
[9:44] have those relation we have to build
[9:47] these relationships and it just simply
[9:49] takes time so we need the help of
[9:52] these it out thank you go ahead please
[9:57] so would you say that the program
[9:58] coordinator is more focused towards the
[10:01] Empowerment Center and the work that
[10:02] will be done um once that Center opens
[10:05] well no no well you know the Serv doing
[10:07] the program so I think we can do the
[10:09] programs without having a building so we
[10:11] just make the program work so for
[10:13] example we have the skills training
[10:14] program the next CT starts next week
[10:18] 23rd and then after that we have the
[10:20] business uh Workshop we doing like a
[10:23] business Workshop series and um you know
[10:27] things you know like for try something
[10:29] like each month to you know keep the
[10:31] activity going and make it happen and
[10:34] the two ironically go hand in hand in
[10:37] other words we train people so let's say
[10:39] that we run 150 people through the
[10:42] skills training program and at the end
[10:45] of the day we you know having trouble
[10:47] getting them place you know we obious
[10:48] the priorities of getting them plac
[10:50] within the city but you know we're not
[10:51] getting them here so it's it's just hard
[10:54] so we need to build the capacity of
[10:56] small businesses that have the
[10:57] opportunities to take on so we have to
[11:01] you know do them both at the same time
[11:02] so we're working to build capacity for
[11:03] our business and you know being part of
[11:07] the mission and enthusiasm that's going
[11:08] on within the city and uh and ultimately
[11:11] create the uh you know create the jobs
[11:15] and we do have a disconnect you know um
[11:17] you he today about people looking for
[11:21] for employee that said we can't find
[11:23] where are they you know and you know we
[11:25] have it here and but yet when you go two
[11:27] blocks up you
[11:29] I can't get an interview or why can't I
[11:31] get this or you know and these are the
[11:34] realities that we we deal with and we
[11:37] talk about things in a true public
[11:41] private kind of relationship you know
[11:43] you know we have to do them both with
[11:44] the same
[11:49] time Mr So currently the work are done
[11:53] by you miss
[11:57] right do backl in terms of reviewing the
[12:01] the compliance
[12:03] report we do I mean it all chall you
[12:06] know you know come tax you know because
[12:10] chase down what um you know what's
[12:12] happen with the projects and you know
[12:14] report you know get done you know so we
[12:18] get it done but we would like to be on
[12:20] the proactive side to you know deal the
[12:24] reason why you people have chall get in
[12:27] there and
[12:33] how many grants did you submit this year
[12:35] and what are what's the status of those
[12:36] grants well in the past 12 months I said
[12:39] submitted like
[12:41] three one to the state two to the
[12:44] federal we didn't we didn't
[12:47] get got closer than we did the year
[12:49] before the year before you know we
[12:52] submitted about the same and you we
[12:54] didn't get any you know we didn't get
[12:57] anywhere with it this we we got a lot
[12:59] you know a lot of feedback in ter of you
[13:02] know what part somebody you know those
[13:05] type of things
[13:06] so we did get small from National
[13:11] gr we did apply through the state
[13:13] through the you know Workforce
[13:16] initiative you know and some of those
[13:17] things are still pending but um you know
[13:21] we working we're working out with the um
[13:24] you know Workforce Development Institute
[13:25] and Department of Labor so they have
[13:29] um that's s Tas what we done with our
[13:32] Workforce program
[13:33] where the negotiation is once they
[13:36] complete out five six program that they
[13:39] will go into the next level which would
[13:41] be like a pre apprenti program so we're
[13:43] trying to you know produce that Gap so
[13:48] how many programs did you run this year
[13:50] and how many students went through it
[13:52] this is well we typically run like about
[13:55] three
[13:56] TOS per year is going to be the third uh
[14:00] C this year start next we and how many
[14:04] students 15 typically we start 15 e 12
[14:14] 11 go ahead please so are do you are you
[14:17] able to utilize the um grant writer for
[14:20] the city to write your grants or who
[14:21] writes your grants for you silly right
[14:24] most of them and we do you know we have
[14:26] work with Su you know
[14:30] has been writing the ones that
[14:35] we but she's not really she's not part
[14:37] of your department she works in a
[14:38] different department but she's assisting
[14:40] yours thank you she's part of
[14:41] development she works mostly with
[14:43] development mostly with yeah but you
[14:46] know actually she does grants for the
[14:47] city I know she's done police she's done
[14:50] Finance she's done other grants did she
[14:52] do help with
[14:54] your oh no Su no I was asking about oh
[14:58] yeah no I'm just saying also help yeah
[15:02] MH okay and we have talk with you know
[15:06] you know like in TR you know what to go
[15:08] after
[15:10] that you know so we have to VI
[15:12] but
[15:14] you
[15:16] just identify
[15:20] what put the
[15:24] resources thank
[15:27] you
[15:29] any other question for Mr
[15:32] G thank you sir appreciate thank you
[15:36] have a
[15:57] good thank
[16:10] [Music]
[16:25] you so before you it's the it's a
[16:28] combine of all the proposed changes
[16:31] so give you a couple minutes to go
[16:33] through them and then we'll go through
[16:35] them
[16:36] individually discuss it and
[16:57] forward
[16:59] you just hiding it want me to read on
[17:00] your
[17:03] paper
[17:05] so doesn't really explain
[17:27] it
[17:57] for
[18:43] this is the most come
[18:57] year
[19:27] okay
[20:27] for
[20:28] [Music]
[20:36] [Music]
[20:56] inside holy
[21:15] days oh my God
[21:27] sorry
[21:50] okay so we'll just go through um each
[21:52] item and uh first section is revenue the
[21:57] question Mr forar is to explain the real
[21:59] property tax collection here to date on
[22:02] the first pral you have given to us and
[22:05] the one today the number remain the same
[22:07] despite the fact that collection was
[22:09] ongoing say again please real property
[22:11] tax collection you know the monthly St
[22:13] as I give you every every month if you
[22:15] read the bottom you know the way our our
[22:18] books the way the computer works is that
[22:20] we figure we achieve 100% but in
[22:22] actuality we were receiving about
[22:25] 93% increasing every year so you receive
[22:28] about 93% collection on that line
[22:33] yes the next one can you explain to us
[22:36] um the sales taxs and growth for 2024
[22:39] yeah so we increased the sales tax by a
[22:41] million dollars over High share uh as we
[22:44] see even
[22:45] though you know you know hear about the
[22:49] economy going up but the cost of
[22:50] everything is up especially gasoline
[22:52] we're getting all those sales tax
[22:54] increases so we're looking forward on
[22:56] that so you think million a million
[22:59] increase from 2023
[23:02] is is that conservative to yes yes I
[23:07] think it
[23:08] is should it go up a little bit more I I
[23:12] I would not put it up
[23:14] anymore excuse me John can you tell us
[23:16] the line number sorry sorry revenue is
[23:19] on Revenue page
[23:21] one uh a11
[23:25] a 1 0 it
[23:29] yeah
[23:34] sorry so it's conservative but recommend
[23:37] stay the million yeah million please and
[23:40] the next one can you walk us through the
[23:41] last Revenue you had given us the
[23:44] statement
[23:45] [Music]
[23:46] here for the
[23:50] benefit
[23:56] sure
[23:58] the we talking about the
[24:00] 6.6 million 6.6
[24:03] million yeah that is just to basically
[24:06] balance the books and uh that's what we
[24:08] have left over uh for our L loss Revenue
[24:12] that was a calculation of um
[24:16] 5.2% uh what we received uh from the
[24:19] aror monies um so we do that calculation
[24:23] and I believe I sent everyone that
[24:26] sheet uh that shows uh the amount uh uh
[24:30] we actually received um but 6.6 million
[24:33] is what is left over and uh that's just
[24:36] going to be filling the gap between our
[24:37] revenues and our
[24:42] expenditures any question on this so 6.6
[24:45] is what we have left in arpa and that's
[24:47] what that figure represents l so you're
[24:51] using that yes to cover our loss of
[24:53] Revenue
[24:54] correct and it could be we're not going
[24:56] to use it all like like what we used
[24:58] last year we may not use it all this
[25:09] year are you good with that you guys
[25:13] okay so we'll U move to the next item
[25:16] the next one is a1010 D100 city council
[25:21] there's a proposal for a 16% increase of
[25:24] city council
[25:25] member open for discussion
[25:31] sorry I brought this forward and so as
[25:34] you can see um I researched so the
[25:37] council hasn't received a increase in
[25:39] the stien since 2002 and um we it's
[25:43] increased our duties have increased
[25:44] overall uh including doing the budget
[25:47] which has increased over the years so uh
[25:49] at this point in time I was just putting
[25:50] forth that um to increase the stien for
[25:53] the city council members while at the
[25:55] same time um considering the uh outside
[25:58] Council which we had put in and reducing
[26:00] that since we had not used it but
[26:02] leaving um some of it in place 15,000 in
[26:05] order into just in case we needed but
[26:07] not
[26:08] um but not take but but taking some of
[26:11] it away um from the 25,000 that we had
[26:14] originally
[26:18] budgeted open questions on this go ahead
[26:22] please so I would not support as I as
[26:24] I've mentioned the increase for city
[26:26] council um um I don't think that that's
[26:28] really why we're here um doing the job
[26:32] but I also recommended that I think we
[26:34] should take out the entire 25,000 for
[26:36] the outside Council as we discussed last
[26:38] year I mean I think that um most of us
[26:42] um use our Corporation Council for any
[26:45] questions that we have U and folks in
[26:47] the Corporation Council Office uh for
[26:49] questions that we have um when they come
[26:52] up so I just as we discussed last year I
[26:55] again do not think that we need that um
[26:58] in the budget at
[27:06] all any other discussion on this item no
[27:10] I mean I understand your position so I
[27:12] mean so if it fall goes through then you
[27:14] know you could stand on principle and
[27:16] then if you you know feel like it's not
[27:18] something that you would want to take I
[27:19] understand
[27:25] that any got a question
[27:28] this we'll move to the next one 8 10
[27:32] 10440 that's kind of like linked to the
[27:34] one before mhm propos increasing outside
[27:37] legal service by
[27:44] $10,000 yeah it's it's currently 25,000
[27:47] so this has been asked to reduce it to
[27:50] to
[27:56] 15,000
[27:58] any discussion on
[28:01] this again I just don't think that we
[28:03] needed even the 15,000 but I would
[28:05] reduce it to
[28:10] zero any other comments on
[28:15] this
[28:17] sorry I would just say based on a
[28:20] preparedness standpoint I definitely
[28:21] understand that our Corporation Council
[28:23] is like willing and able to do this
[28:24] types of work but I think just because
[28:26] there's not an immed use does not deter
[28:29] you from having these types of budget
[28:31] items as a just in case resource I think
[28:33] having it for another year to see if we
[28:35] are going to potentially utilizing it
[28:36] then I think I'd be more in favor of
[28:39] assessing uh its uh long-term uh
[28:42] implications as as a line
[28:45] number any other
[28:49] discuss see n move to the next item is a
[28:54] 1210
[28:56] D100 and that that's adjusting the
[28:59] admin
[29:01] assistant to the current 2023 salary of
[29:12] 57392 open for
[29:18] discussion well you're not very
[29:21] consistent you give the
[29:25] uh Park Str
[29:28] 4% and you don't give anything
[29:45] here go ahead please I would just say
[29:48] there's just blatant differences between
[29:50] a director and administrative assistant
[29:52] no slate to either position because
[29:54] they're both vital to the C Halls
[29:56] long-term point
[29:58] we can't use reasoning for one and not
[30:00] for the
[30:03] other um like believe there was a there
[30:06] was a 4% increase in this line item from
[30:09] last year's budget to the 2023 and then
[30:12] it was vacant for a while and um this
[30:15] person came in very very recently so
[30:19] um I I mean generally a 4% increas is is
[30:24] um like over something that's that
[30:27] hasn't been has been a long time and let
[30:29] me just also say I looked back and there
[30:31] was in 2020 between 2020 and 2021 there
[30:34] was like no increase in this line
[30:35] whatsoever so This Is Not Unusual it's
[30:38] not like it's never happened before
[30:39] because when we P when the 2020 and 2021
[30:42] budget was passed it was also not an
[30:44] increase in that in that
[30:48] line any other
[30:54] discussion I'm sorry oh no not
[30:59] really some people go upstairs well I do
[31:02] want to say I think the parks director
[31:03] was hired um in February perhaps I mean
[31:07] um so I think that that person has been
[31:09] in their position for almost a year or
[31:12] you know certainly by the time the um
[31:14] but the I don't know when the
[31:16] administrative assistant was uh hired
[31:20] so it probably was very recently but I
[31:23] think maybe July maybe August I'm not
[31:25] but very recently yes
[31:31] any other
[31:33] questions we'll move to the next one a13
[31:36] p
[31:37] 100 uh question the proposal is to
[31:40] increase the deputy Finance commission
[31:42] position to
[31:46] $80,000 currently it's 78
[31:56] 78p
[32:00] I know
[32:07] him and there there's a currently 78 Bud
[32:11] for proposed budget has
[32:14] 78,000 we asked him to bring that to
[32:17] 80,000 and there's a little bit of
[32:19] reason for that um there at the
[32:22] bottom I don't want I don't not seek fin
[32:26] retirement yeah but
[32:28] um to make
[32:31] it I didn't want to say it but you know
[32:34] I was very D's customer
[32:52] there that
[32:56] ising
[32:58] she
[33:01] charges we want to make sure we have
[33:03] succession plan in this department to
[33:05] our city and M been fantastic years so
[33:10] we want to make sure the transition
[33:12] happen and the deputy is equipped to
[33:15] carry on and we need to um put that in
[33:19] place and as you see there there's a
[33:21] great job he's he listens he trained
[33:24] well and hopefully he's going to
[33:26] continue to grow even
[33:29] more any question on
[33:32] this okay the next one
[33:36] here the assess um this
[33:40] a355
[33:42] 100 assessment
[33:45] office the assess was um in front of us
[33:48] a couple of days mentioned to us that
[33:52] um
[33:55] tookess EX pass on the for try and you
[33:59] know she has a to certification and this
[34:02] was a two-part question because there's
[34:03] one here and then there's another one in
[34:04] the back so can to combine all together
[34:08] and we have the opportunity to from her
[34:11] and I think that um we should um you
[34:14] know put some consideration in place to
[34:18] compensate certification and the
[34:20] qualification that she has she did
[34:23] mention that she has the only one in the
[34:25] New York state have
[34:27] if I'm not
[34:29] mistaken something close to that
[34:33] yes go ahead please I was going to say
[34:36] professional development is something
[34:37] that is uh needed in every organization
[34:40] and I think it's our responsibility to
[34:41] make sure that we uh properly
[34:43] incentivize that that a no way shape
[34:45] form means giving people um 100% raise
[34:49] increases but I think that as they start
[34:51] to add more knowledge skills and
[34:53] abilities to their skill set uh City
[34:55] Hall is able to be more um affected in
[34:57] it businesses within that individuals
[35:02] scope we did ask for documentation I
[35:05] think attached to
[35:10] the her is 93 she requested 93
[35:15] yes3 you have this
[35:19] k64
[35:25] more
[35:27] 1,64 oh 1,64 got
[35:55] it
[36:07] So currently the proposal is um 91
[36:12] 936 and she requested
[36:25] 93,000
[36:32] any
[36:34] discuss I would support
[36:40] that okay it's not much of a difference
[36:42] from the proposed budget and what is
[36:45] being asked from the
[36:52] Department next item is a420 D100 law
[36:59] proposal is high power legal and then
[37:01] there's a narrative as why the
[37:03] suggestion is being brought
[37:16] forward go ahead please I would like to
[37:18] ask if Mr Mr col could weigh in
[37:22] a um thank
[37:24] Youk um we do that one of the parttime
[37:27] attorneys um who's been working for us
[37:29] for quite a while now um will be leaving
[37:33] um at the end of the year full
[37:35] retirement um he's already retired from
[37:38] the DA's office and um he's been doing
[37:41] phenomenal work for us in fact we
[37:44] actually had a judgment today in court
[37:46] from a trial over
[37:47] $100,000 five in asss um this case that
[37:51] he
[37:52] handled um as it's noted here we do have
[37:55] unfilled assist Corporation Council
[37:57] positions uh obviously we're trying to
[37:59] fill those positions um you I don't know
[38:04] what will happen in 2024 as appli to the
[38:07] other administrative staff um know we
[38:11] get a lot of foil requests obviously as
[38:12] you all know and technology has changed
[38:15] where we don't have body cam so there's
[38:16] more redactions to do and more video
[38:19] review and all of that and that consumes
[38:21] a great deal of time uh there'll never
[38:23] be a shortage of notice of claims that
[38:25] are filed against the city um and Code
[38:27] Enforcement cases that come up um from
[38:30] the building department for us to
[38:31] prosecute and um having obviously you
[38:35] know if we can't fill the assistant
[38:37] Corporation Council positions um there's
[38:39] always going to be a need for additional
[38:41] support staff um we have two paralal
[38:44] currently in the office who don't have
[38:46] the title paralal um they have code
[38:49] enforcement Specialists and record
[38:52] access officer um having a paralal could
[38:55] provide uh additional assistance um to
[38:58] handle closings draft documents um
[39:01] things along those lines um so that the
[39:04] attorneys that we do have can you know
[39:07] essentially do the the things that
[39:09] attorne only attorneys can do go to
[39:11] court
[39:15] um what would be an average salary
[39:18] there's no there's no salary attached to
[39:20] that recommendation so yeah it's Guided
[39:22] by I believe it may fall under