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I'd like to call the ordinance to make

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the city council committee meeting for

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Wednesday October 18th 2023 and I'll

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turn up to Mr M Baron thank you I would

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like to reconvene finance

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committee and there is one item that we

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need to address follow from last

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and it has to do with the human resource

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department I was to have some questions

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for Mr

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rard

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sorry

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P you have some questions regarding you

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want to go ahead certainly um so I

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noticed in the budget when uh Miss Ali

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was here that there's two office excuse

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me two positions that were removed from

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the budget um the positions W removed I

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should say that they weren't funded and

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they were

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the assistant yeah I'm just W about his

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office Oh you mean the assist yeah he

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having any control over

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that so about the fir action um offic so

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the uh affirmative action office

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clerical Aid and program coordinator

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neither of those were funded this year

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so um just really want to know from you

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that was that was the decision that you

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wanted to make or no I I would like that

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you reconsider that we've been working

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to try to get you know these positions

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funded they're very very desperately

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needed to assist the work that we're

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trying to do in this off of affirmative

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action uh we just now completed the U

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ining process so we sent one selection

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up to the to the mayor's office today

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for consideration so you know so that's

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up there and also uh it's it's been a a

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challenging Jal situation in terms of

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affirmative action office and the

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Empowerment Center the it were both

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connected to what we're trying to do

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with the 18 office stre and funded and

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all that but since we've had such a

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um cost overrun in terms of being able

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to get the building done and get

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everything on track to make it move

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forward it's it's been almost impossible

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to say how can we you know get you know

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position in that to run the program if we're not sure what we're going to

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run the programs out of so that was the

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one issue that was you know in in

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contention for but we did you know work

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through that and I want to come back to

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you um to discuss at at another time the

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reappropriation you know of the of the

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office fund to go more toward the

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programming side

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and so therefore we're able to serve the

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community and do the things we want to

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do as opposed to being locked down to

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the to the capital infrastructure of the building I want to come back with

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that but in terms of the two positions

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the critical in the sense that you know

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we definitely need help in terms of the

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day-to-day operations of what we're

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doing down here what tring to do the

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service C and you know get the word out

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and service and and hold true to the

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mission so um has been a process to to

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do that together with a lot of people

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and you know it's just been hard so we

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got we got the first part of it done

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ose be ready with the 17 you know move

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back forward consideration but in terms

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of program we've been doing you know a

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lot of things that U require the help

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you know you talk about creating U

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access to Opportunities um you know word

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available in terms of you know what we

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have to offer trying to do specifically

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toward Workforce Development and

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training working with our partners and

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you know just trying to develop the

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whole program in a quality fashion so

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that it's sustainable and deliver the

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results that we're trying to do so I

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think we'll be able to move forward with

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the quality sustainable program and a

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product that's going to make the city

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proud and we'll be able to deliver what

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the uh what the community is asking for

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so follow question you said that you

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submitted something to the um mayor's

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office which one of these positions was

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it for for clerical a clerical a um and

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it's my understanding that someone was

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hired at one point but it didn't work

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could you speak to that a little bit

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Yeah didn't work state

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so out right so it wasn't for lack of

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trying you did have someone employed but

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they decided didn't have a start they

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didn't start they just accepted the job

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it didn't start right right

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okay all right so but you you have

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reached out because I just you know

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wanted to ask those questions um because

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I just want to be frank that um we were

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told that that there had been you had

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been submitted several applications but

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not had not considered any of the people

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well we we've considered a lot I mean

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we've been you know it's a process you

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know um you get you know 10 20 app kid

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you call them all you know you know the

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bo don't answer don't show up or

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whatever you know so that process and

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some don't work out but you know we've

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been going through that process and um

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you know I'm very comfortable with what

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you know we've come out with to you know

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to get this

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started um so my last question if if

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between these two positions has neither

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one of them have been funded this point

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and if you said if we said like we can

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only fund one or the other um from your

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perspective as the person who runs the

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office which would you have chosen well I I have to go with the data uh you

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know the data entry person because

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that's you know what we're getting B

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down the most you know so much is coming

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in just keeping up with things so that's

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you know that's one thing

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the other position is important too

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because um there's a lot of support that

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we get from within the current

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administration of the city that ABS a

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lot of those things that typically would

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not be done you know specifically Sil

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Heth minist in terms of grant writing

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and identifying Grant

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opportuni um connections and

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relationships with the partment that

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we're trying to work with on Country the

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college uh the school district U you

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know all these things uh it takes time

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you know a year ago we started working

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on M with the school district to talk

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about a Workforce initiative so that's

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been last September here we are this

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year we just not getting to the point

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where they're coming back with their

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draft or what they want to move forward

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so everything just takes a very long

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time and the uh and we need to be in a

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position to go after the fun we need to

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go out to the gr so we can sustain the

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programs once we you know get them done

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so we do talk with funders you poti fund

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that's working with talking with you

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know the district you know what

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resources can they bring there um know

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we talking Community College you know

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they work with us

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Workforce program what can they they do

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so you know many things that they can do

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uh you know retrospect is you know maybe

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like noncash you know transactions but

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if they consist with staff for example

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in the col they do like all the

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screening and taking the applicants and

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all that but it's tax in on them to keep

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up a keep up people so you know we do

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what we can to you know make it happen

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and you know keep doing and then we

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still you know go to outside resources

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looking for funding so um we were talk

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for a whole year with a group that want

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to support the you know the Empowerment

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Center you

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know and they will you know they would

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come you know with some you know

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significant funding but they didn't want

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to get involv with the capital P you

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know nothing to do the building with

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programing you

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know you know something that we you know

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what happen What going on but you know

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it's conversation like that is why this coordinating piece becomes critical

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somebody strong enough to have those

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conversations and you know and sometime

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you know we're not as as St to the

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traditional routes you know we don't

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have those relationship we have to build

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these relationships and just simply

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takes time so we need the help of these

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people to make it happen thank you go

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ahead please so would you say that the

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program coordinator is more focused

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towards the Empowerment Center and the

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work that will be done um once that

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Center opens well no no well you know

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just service doing the program so I

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think we can do the programs without

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having a building so we'll just make the

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program work so for example we have the

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skills training program the next core

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starts next week 23rd

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and then after that we have the business

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uh Workshop we're doing like a business

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Workshop series and um you know things

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you know like for the years we trying to

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do something like each month to you know

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keep the activity going and make it

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happen and the two ironically go hand in other words we train people so

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let's say that we run 150 people through

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the skills training program and at the

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end of the day we you know having

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trouble getting in place you know we we

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priorities to get them plac within the

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city but you know we're not getting them

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here so it's just hard so we need to

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build the capacity of small businesses

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that have the opportunities to take them

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on so we have to you know do them both

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at the same time so we're working to

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build a capacity small business and you

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know being part of the mission and

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enthusiasm that's going on within the

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city and uh and ultimately create the uh

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you know create the jobs and and we do

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have a disconnect you know um you he Day

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people looking for for employees they

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said we can't find where are they you

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know and you know we have it here and

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but yes when you go two blocks up you

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talk to I can't get an interview or why

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can't I get this or you know and these

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are the realities that we we deal with

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and we talk about things in a a true

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public private kind of relationship you

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know you know we have to do them both at

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the same

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Mr cardal So currently the work are

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being done by

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you Miss K

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right so do you have any backl in terms

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of reviewing the of the compliance

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report I mean it all become Challen you

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know it all become tax you know because

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chase down what um you know it's happen

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with the projects and you know get

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reports in you know you get it done you

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know so we get it done

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but we would like to be on the proactive

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side to um you know de able to be why

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you if you have chance get in there

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and how many grants did you submit this

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year and what are what's the status of

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those grants well in the past 12 months

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I said you submitted like three GRS one

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to the state to the federal um we didn't

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get got close we did the year before the

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year before you know we submitted about

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the same and you know we didn't get any

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you know we didn't get anywhere with it

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this we we got a lot closer you know a

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lot of feedback in ter of you know what

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consider part somebody you know those

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type of things so

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we we did get small from National

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GD we did apply through the state

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through the you know Workforce

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initiative you know and some of those

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things are still

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pending but um you know we working we're

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working out with the um you know

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Workforce Development Institute and

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requirment of Labor so they have um

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that's s task what we're doing with our

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Workforce program

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where the negotiation is once they

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complete out five six program that they

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will go into the next level which would

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be like a Preen program so trying to you

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know bridge that Gap so um how many how

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many programs did you run this year and

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how many students went through it this

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is weally run like about TOS for year so

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this is going to be the third cohort

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this

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year next and how many students 15

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typically we start 15 e we got probably

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12

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11 goad please so are you are you able

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to utilize is the um grant writer for

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the city to write your grants or who

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writes your grants for you been write

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most of and we do you know we have work

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with Su you know through the

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city been writing the ones that we've

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been but she's not really she's not part

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of your department she works in a

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different department but she's assisting

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yours thank you she's part of she works

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mostly with development mostly with

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development yeah okay but you know

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actually she does gr for the city done

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police she's done Finance she's done

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other did she do want help you with

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ch oh noard no I was asking about oh

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yeah no I'm just saying also s lomard

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help okay and we have talk you know Su

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you know like you know what to go after

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that you know so we have VI

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but you know just one identify

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put

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resources thank

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you any other question for Mr

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Gard thank you

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sirate thank you have a

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good

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thank

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[Applause]

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you

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[Applause]

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so before you it's a it's a combine of

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all the proposed changes

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so give you a couple minutes to go

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through them and then we'll go through

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them

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individually discuss it and move

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forward

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you

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Happ I'm just hiding it want me to read

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on your paper

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sure doesn't really explain

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it

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for

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[Applause]

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this is the most Curr

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year

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[Applause]

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okay

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sh

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[Music]

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where

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your I'm not

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inside

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3

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days oh my God sorry

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you can just have to say

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[Music]

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be

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okay so we'll just go through um each

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item and first section is revenue the

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question Mr ferari is to explain the

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real property tax collection here to

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date on the first princi you have given

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to us and the one today the number

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remain the same despite the fact that

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collection was ongoing say again please

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real property tax collection you know

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the monthly stus I give you every every

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month if you read the bottom you know

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the way our books the way the computer

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works is that we figure we achieve 100%

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but in actuality we were receiving about

381
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93% it's increasing every year so you

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receive about 93% collection on that

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line

384
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yes the next one can you explain to us

385
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um the sales tax and growth for 2024

386
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yeah so we increased the sales tax by

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million dollar over the high share uh as

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we see even

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though you know uh you know hear about

390
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the economy going up for the cost

391
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everything is up especially gasoline

392
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we're getting all those sales tax

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increases so we're looking forward on

394
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that so you think million a million

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increase from 2023

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is is that conservative two yes yes I

397
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think it is should it go up a little bit

398
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more I I I would not put it up

399
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anymore excuse me John can you tell us

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the line number sorry sorry revenue is

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on Revenue page

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one uh a11

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a one0 got it

404
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yeah

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sorry put

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together so it's conservative but

407
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recommend stay the million yeah million

408
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pleas and the next one can we walk us

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through the last Revenue you had given

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us a statement here what

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kind that's for the benefit

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of

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sure the

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next the we talking about the

415
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6.6 million 6.6 million yes yeah that is

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just to basically balance the books and

417
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uh that's what we have left over uh for

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our l l Revenue that was a calculation

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of um

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5.2% uh what we received uh from the

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aror monies um so we do that calculation

422
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and I believe I sent everyone that sheet

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uh that shows uh the amount uh uh we

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actually received um but 6.6 million is

425
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what is left over and U that's just

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going to be filling the gap between our

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revenues and our

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expenditures any question on this so 6.6

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is what we have left in arpa and that's

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what that figure represent l so you're

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using that yes to cover our loss of

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Revenue

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correct and it could be we're not going

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to use it all like even like what we

435
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used last year we may not use it all

436
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this

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year are you good with that you go okay

438
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so we'll uh move to the next item the

439
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next one is a

440
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101-100 city council there's a proposal

441
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for a 16% increase of city council

442
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member open for

443
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discussion sorry I brought this forward

444
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and so as you can see um I researched so

445
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the council hasn't received a increase

446
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siphon since 2002 and um we it's

447
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increased our duties have increased

448
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overall uh including doing the budget

449
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which is has increased over the years so

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uh at this point in time I was just

451
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putting forth that um to increase the

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stien for the city council members while

453
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at the same time um considering the uh

454
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outside Council which we had put in and

455
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reducing that since we had not used it

456
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but leaving um some of it in place

457
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15,000 in order to just in case we

458
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needed but not

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um but not take but but taking some of

460
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it away um from the 25,000 that we had

461
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originally

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budgeted

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open

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question go ahead please so I would not

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support as I as I've mentioned the

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increase for city council um I don't

467
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think that that's really why we're here

468
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um doing the job but I also recommended

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that I think we should take out the

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entire 25,000 for the outside Council as

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we discussed last year I mean I think

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that um most of us um use our

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Corporation councel for any questions

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that we have and folks in the

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Corporation Council Office uh for

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questions that we have um when they come

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up so I just as we discussed last year I

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again do not think that we need that um

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in the budget at

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all any other discussion on this item no

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I mean I understand your position so I

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mean so if it fall goes through and you

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know you could stand on principle and

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then if you you know feel like it's not

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something that you would want to take I

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understand

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that you got a question on this I we'll

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move to the next one 8

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10144 I'm that's kind of like linked to

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the one before M propos increasing

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outside legal service by

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$10,000 H yeah it's it's currently 25

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5,000 so this has been asked to reduce

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it to to

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15,000 any discussion on

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this again I just don't think that we

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need it even the 15,000 but I would

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reduce it to

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zero any other comments on

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this sorry go ahead please

502
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I would just say based on a preparedness

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standpoint I definitely understand that

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our Corporation Council is willing and

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able to do this types of work but I

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think just because there's not an

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immediate use does not deter you from

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having these types of budget items as a

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just in case resource I think having it

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for another year to see if we are going

511
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to potentially utilizing it then I think

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I'd be more in favor of assessing uh

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it's uh long-term uh implications as a line

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number any other

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discussion seeing none we'll move to the

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next item is a 12

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10-100 and that's adjusting the

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admin

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assistant so the current 2023 salary of

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57392 open for

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discussion

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well you're not very

523
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consistent you give the

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uh Parks director

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4% and you don't give anything

526
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here go ahead please

527
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I would just say there's blatant

528
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differences between a director and an

529
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administrative assistant no slate to

530
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either position because they're both

531
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vital to the seols long-term

532
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plans you can't use reasoning for one

533
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and not for the

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other go ahead um as I believe there was

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a there was a 4% increase in this line

536
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item from last year's budget to the

537
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20123 and then it was vacant for a while

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and um this person came in very very

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recently so um I I I mean generally a 4%

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increas is is um like over something

541
00:29:37,399 --> 00:29:39,320
that's that hasn't been has been a long

542
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time and let me just also say I looked

543
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back and there was in 2020 between 2020

544
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and 2021 there was like no increase in

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00:29:45,600 --> 00:29:48,039
this line whatsoever so This Is Not

546
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Unusual it's not like it's never

547
00:29:49,519 --> 00:29:51,279
happened before because when we P when

548
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the 2020 and 2021 budget was passed

549
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there was also not an increase in that line

550
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any other

551
00:30:05,279 --> 00:30:07,720
discussion I'm

552
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sorry just not

553
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:12,600
really some people go upstairs well I do

554
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:14,000
want to say I think the parks director

555
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was hired um in February perhaps I mean

556
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um so I think that that person has been

557
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in their position for almost a year or

558
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,039
you know certainly by the time the um

559
00:30:25,039 --> 00:30:27,559
but the I don't know when the ad

560
00:30:27,559 --> 00:30:30,559
assistant was uh hired

561
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:34,039
so it probably was very recently but I

562
00:30:34,039 --> 00:30:36,320
think maybe July maybe August and but

563
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,470
very recently

564
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,559
yes any other

565
00:30:43,559 --> 00:30:45,880
questions we'll move to the next one uh

566
00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:48,159
a13 plan

567
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:50,880
100 uh question on the proposal is to

568
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,080
increase a deputy Finance commission

569
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:56,230
position to

570
00:30:56,240 --> 00:31:09,509
$80,000 currently it's 78 so they

571
00:31:09,519 --> 00:31:17,590
bumping I know

572
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:22,399
him there there's a currently 78 bu for

573
00:31:22,399 --> 00:31:24,559
proposed budget has about

574
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:28,480
78,000 we asked him to bring that 80,000

575
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:29,799
and there's a little bit of reason for

576
00:31:29,799 --> 00:31:32,360
that there at the

577
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:36,600
bottom I don't want I don't not SE fin

578
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,070
retirement that's it

579
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,880
but make

580
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,799
it I didn't want to say it but you know

581
00:31:44,799 --> 00:31:56,149
how F to be doren's customer

582
00:31:56,159 --> 00:32:11,830
there

583
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:13,600
ohes want to make sure we have

584
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,279
succession plan in this department to

585
00:32:16,279 --> 00:32:19,080
our city

586
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,880
and years so we want to make sure the

587
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,760
transition happen and the deputy is

588
00:32:24,760 --> 00:32:28,399
equipped to carry on and we need to um

589
00:32:28,399 --> 00:32:31,080
you know put that in place as you see D

590
00:32:31,080 --> 00:32:32,279
does a great

591
00:32:32,279 --> 00:32:35,600
job he listens he change well and

592
00:32:35,600 --> 00:32:37,399
hopefully it's going to continue to even

593
00:32:37,399 --> 00:32:39,919
grow even

594
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:43,039
more any question on

595
00:32:43,039 --> 00:32:46,919
this okay the next one

596
00:32:46,919 --> 00:32:50,600
here the assess um this

597
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:52,440
a355

598
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:55,760
100 assessment

599
00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,760
office the s was um in front of us a

600
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,639
couple of days mentioned to us that

601
00:33:02,639 --> 00:33:06,960
um he took um this you know Eng assessor

602
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:10,240
exam pass the first Tri and you know she

603
00:33:10,240 --> 00:33:12,679
has a top certification and this was a

604
00:33:12,679 --> 00:33:14,240
two part question because there's one

605
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:15,480
here and then there's another one in the

606
00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,720
back it's going to combine all two

607
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,039
together and we had the opportunity to

608
00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:24,320
from her and I think that um we should

609
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,600
um you know put some consideration in

610
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,919
place

611
00:33:27,919 --> 00:33:31,080
to compensate her for certification and

612
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:34,039
the qualification that she has she did

613
00:33:34,039 --> 00:33:36,120
mention that she has the only one in the

614
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,080
New York State have qualification I'm

615
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,279
not

616
00:33:40,279 --> 00:33:43,720
mistaken something close to that

617
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,399
yes go ahead pleas I was going to say

618
00:33:46,399 --> 00:33:48,000
professional development is something

619
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:50,320
that is uh needed in every organization

620
00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,039
and I think it's our responsibility to

621
00:33:52,039 --> 00:33:54,440
make sure that we properly incentivize

622
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,600
that that a no way shape or form means

623
00:33:56,600 --> 00:34:00,960
giv people um 100% raise increases but I

624
00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:02,840
think that as they start to add more

625
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:04,240
knowledge skills and abilities to their

626
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,600
skill set uh City Hall is able to be

627
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:08,960
more um effective in its businesses

628
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:12,710
within that individuals

629
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:16,280
scope we did ask for documentation I

630
00:34:16,280 --> 00:34:20,560
think attach to the

631
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:25,879
today her is 93 she requested

632
00:34:25,879 --> 00:34:30,000
933 you have this

633
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:35,230
k64 more

634
00:34:35,240 --> 00:34:38,240
than

635
00:34:38,240 --> 00:34:55,869
bu64 oh 1,64 got

636
00:34:55,879 --> 00:35:17,790
it

637
00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,839
So currently the proposal is um 91

638
00:35:22,839 --> 00:35:44,750
936 and she requested 93,000

639
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:51,150
can I would support

640
00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:53,280
that there not much of a difference from

641
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:55,680
the proposed budget and what is being

642
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:08,950
asked from the Department next item is a420 D100

643
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,079
law proposal is high power legal and

644
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,079
then there's an N that's why the

645
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:25,710
suggestion is being brought

646
00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,520
forward

647
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,280
go ahead please I would like to ask if

648
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:32,440
Mr Mr colon could weigh in on

649
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:35,040
this um thank

650
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,760
you um we do anticipate that one of the

651
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,680
parktime attorneys um who's been working

652
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,880
for us for quite a while now um will be

653
00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:45,599
leaving um at the end of the year full

654
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:49,000
retirement um he's already retired from

655
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,960
the DA's office and um he's been doing

656
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,480
phenomenal work for us in fact we

657
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,720
actually had a judgment today in court

658
00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,000
from a trial over

659
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:02,680
$100,000 F in sus um this a case that he

660
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:06,119
handled um as it's noted here we do have

661
00:37:06,119 --> 00:37:07,960
unfilled assistant Corporation Council

662
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,000
positions obviously we're trying to fill

663
00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:14,480
those positions um you I don't know what

664
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,800
will happen in 2024 as a plus to the

665
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:21,400
other administrative staff um know we

666
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,280
get a lot of oil requests obviously as

667
00:37:23,280 --> 00:37:25,720
you all know and technology has changed

668
00:37:25,720 --> 00:37:27,480
um where we now cam so there's more

669
00:37:27,480 --> 00:37:29,560
redactions to do and more video to

670
00:37:29,560 --> 00:37:31,560
review and all of that and that consumes

671
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:33,599
a great deal of time uh there'll never

672
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:35,480
be a shortage of notice of claims that

673
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,079
are filed against the city um and Code

674
00:37:38,079 --> 00:37:40,640
Enforcement cases that come up um from

675
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,960
the building department for us to

676
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,560
prosecute and um having obviously you

677
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:47,599
know if we can't fill the assistant

678
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:49,839
Corporation Council positions um there's

679
00:37:49,839 --> 00:37:51,359
always going to be a need for additional

680
00:37:51,359 --> 00:37:54,720
support staff um we have two paralal

681
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,880
currently in the office who don't don't

682
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,800
have the title paralal um they have code

683
00:37:59,800 --> 00:38:03,000
enforcement specialist and record access

684
00:38:03,000 --> 00:38:05,960
officer um having a paralal could

685
00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,560
provide additional assistance um to

686
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,599
handle closings drop documents um things

687
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:14,520
along those lines um so that the

688
00:38:14,520 --> 00:38:17,359
attorneys that we do have can you know

689
00:38:17,359 --> 00:38:19,880
um essentially do the the things that

690
00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:21,839
attorney only attorneys can do go to

691
00:38:21,839 --> 00:38:25,520
court um and so

692
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:29,200
forth what would be an average salary I

693
00:38:29,200 --> 00:38:31,000
there's no there's no salary attached to

694
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,119
that recommendation so yeah it's Guided

695
00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:36,400
by I believe it may fall under um that's

696
00:38:36,400 --> 00:38:38,400
a this open question I don't I don't

697
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:39,920
know if it falls under

698
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:43,079
CCA I believe it does so there would be

699
00:38:43,079 --> 00:38:45,359
a grade associated with that in steps

700
00:38:45,359 --> 00:38:51,710
and so

701
00:38:51,720 --> 00:38:54,319
forth and one more question there

702
00:38:54,319 --> 00:38:56,359
because you did mention when we met um

703
00:38:56,359 --> 00:38:58,960
that that the other two positions were

704
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,880
doing paralal work um

705
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,079
so basically there they would be moved

706
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,160
from doing paralal work or they still

707
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:10,119
would do paralal work it's just Within

708
00:39:10,119 --> 00:39:11,880
These one with

709
00:39:11,880 --> 00:39:13,839
codes

710
00:39:13,839 --> 00:39:17,560
they um they do the work that they're

711
00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,200
required to do for the job description

712
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,240
um they used to be par illegals they

713
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,839
have those other job titles now so

714
00:39:25,839 --> 00:39:27,440
they're doing things specific to those

715
00:39:27,440 --> 00:39:30,240
job titles a paralal would have to

716
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:32,520
follow the description that would be

717
00:39:32,520 --> 00:39:34,440
provided to the Civil Service since it's

718
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,319
a civil service position uh that said

719
00:39:37,319 --> 00:39:40,240
the two people that are currently um in

720
00:39:40,240 --> 00:39:42,119
those positions don't do real property

721
00:39:42,119 --> 00:39:43,960
work they don't do closings they don't

722
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,359
have that experience um and it doesn't

723
00:39:46,359 --> 00:39:49,440
now fall within their job descriptions

724
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:52,520
um par legal would be able to do that

725
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,440
work the closings

726
00:39:54,440 --> 00:39:57,079
right and then you know ideally we would

727
00:39:57,079 --> 00:39:59,599
look to somebody specific to handle that

728
00:39:59,599 --> 00:40:02,680
type of work you know to fill the voids

729
00:40:02,680 --> 00:40:04,520
that we currently

730
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,240
have do you think it would be easier to

731
00:40:07,240 --> 00:40:10,280
fill the power legal position the

732
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,520
attorney

733
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,800
position I don't know if I can answer

734
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,280
that since we haven't you know um

735
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,280
created that position to you know know

736
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,000
who's test you know who's been testing

737
00:40:20,000 --> 00:40:23,599
for it um you know an attorney position

738
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:25,440
is you know a little different because

739
00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,319
it's you know management

740
00:40:27,319 --> 00:40:32,950
um doesn't have civil service

741
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,200
requirements go ahead please and I'm

742
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:36,560
going to say I appreciate your candidate

743
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:38,599
absolutely having more attorneys is more

744
00:40:38,599 --> 00:40:40,400
appropriate you can use them uh more

745
00:40:40,400 --> 00:40:43,560
seamlessly but definitely I think my

746
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,160
position would be how do we get you the

747
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:47,240
proper support and it seems that you're

748
00:40:47,240 --> 00:40:51,319
more or less open to that so I I think U

749
00:40:51,319 --> 00:40:52,359
understanding how can we get you the

750
00:40:52,359 --> 00:40:54,319
bodies that you can best use to support

751
00:40:54,319 --> 00:40:56,880
this uh legal burden more than

752
00:40:56,880 --> 00:40:58,200
appropriate and then definitely making

753
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:04,550
sure we don't permanently close those

754
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,280
lines any other question on

755
00:41:08,280 --> 00:41:14,030
this all right now we move

756
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,520
on you resource I think this is

757
00:41:17,520 --> 00:41:19,960
answer by Mr

758
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:23,839
Gardner well I'm not go ahead please I'm

759
00:41:23,839 --> 00:41:25,319
not sure if he answered the question why

760
00:41:25,319 --> 00:41:27,240
it wasn't funded think he was more

761
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:30,160
answering did he need it or not that's

762
00:41:30,160 --> 00:41:33,800
what that's what I heard from him um but

763
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:37,359
so and I'm not really sure if we

764
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:39,560
ever I'm not sure if Miss Ali really

765
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:40,960
said why it wasn't

766
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:44,040
funded I'm not because we gave him all

767
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:47,200
we gave over 20 applications they never

768
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:48,839
filled the

769
00:41:48,839 --> 00:41:50,800
position yeah we did have discussion

770
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,200
around that where there's other unfilled

771
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,359
positions um so he did state today that

772
00:41:55,359 --> 00:41:57,240
he needed so I I I guess the discussion

773
00:41:57,240 --> 00:41:59,839
becomes you know do we fail one or both

774
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:01,960
of those positions and there was someone

775
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,720
who was off of the position but then got

776
00:42:03,720 --> 00:42:05,359
a better position so they never actually

777
00:42:05,359 --> 00:42:07,079
took it so it's not like there was

778
00:42:07,079 --> 00:42:11,040
nothing done so I guess it's start yeah

779
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:12,480
well I I think that happens a lot

780
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:13,960
depending on if you got a better salary

781
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,240
then you just you know you take the

782
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:17,160
better salary the effect pattern

783
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:19,800
deviates from what was articulated here

784
00:42:19,800 --> 00:42:22,359
would be a Personnel issue Council have

785
00:42:22,359 --> 00:42:24,200
to move into executive session be

786
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:27,319
briefed on that okay thank you so so

787
00:42:27,319 --> 00:42:28,200
let's put

788
00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:38,589
this executive session y

789
00:42:38,599 --> 00:42:42,549
absolutely

790
00:42:42,559 --> 00:42:44,920
okay let's move on to the next one

791
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:47,200
that's

792
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:49,200
a623

793
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,480
and4 utility admin explain the signal

794
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,960
superintendent payou that's actually for

795
00:42:55,960 --> 00:42:58,280
two two people that's

796
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:00,760
for that's where the mixup is kind of

797
00:43:00,760 --> 00:43:02,680
like yeah for the signal superintendent

798
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:05,800
and the principal so you have like a

799
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,440
break down light so kind of

800
00:43:08,440 --> 00:43:11,319
like so it's kind of

801
00:43:11,319 --> 00:43:13,839
like it doesn't look like there is one

802
00:43:13,839 --> 00:43:17,119
individual that is stand for two

803
00:43:17,119 --> 00:43:19,960
yeah Mr mad but I don't think there's

804
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,520
any um I personally don't think there's

805
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,920
any discussion there I mean you can

806
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:25,319
correct me if I'm wrong but if you have

807
00:43:25,319 --> 00:43:26,960
to pay it out you have pay it out right

808
00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:30,319
isn't that a contractual correct noding

809
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:33,200
yeah I think the question is

810
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,480
understanding as to the accumulation of

811
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:39,240
the unus si le and vacation time well as

812
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:41,240
you can see as you see the people that

813
00:43:41,240 --> 00:43:44,040
are involved have been here like myself

814
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,599
back in the 80s when that was the

815
00:43:46,599 --> 00:43:49,200
contractural thing as you see as as the

816
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:52,400
years went along uh the contract has

817
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:55,640
changed excuse me the contracts have

818
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,280
changed so so that now

819
00:43:58,280 --> 00:44:01,319
uh want to correct you there's no

820
00:44:01,319 --> 00:44:04,200
contract invol it's the terms and

821
00:44:04,200 --> 00:44:06,480
conditions that are adopted by the city

822
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,520
council Council had those in place that

823
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:12,680
made those

824
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,079
correct go ahead please um so I remember

825
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:17,760
something similar to this I was not on

826
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,160
the council at the time um Chief far

827
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,640
that that was back so was back in 2011

828
00:44:22,640 --> 00:44:25,280
where um there was something about him

829
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:28,000
his payout for him leaving and as I

830
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,040
remember there was some conversation

831
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:31,480
about as M fact mayor you were the

832
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:34,000
council president then um about that

833
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,640
changing so that something like that

834
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,559
didn't happen again I distinctly

835
00:44:38,559 --> 00:44:41,920
remember that um so I was just wondering

836
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,079
so that's actually a different thing

837
00:44:44,079 --> 00:44:46,680
that's Public Service benefits well they

838
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:48,160
were

839
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:52,040
allowing to collect overtime to

840
00:44:52,040 --> 00:44:54,960
compensate for what he felt

841
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:56,880
was

842
00:44:56,880 --> 00:44:59,520
something that he a benefit he didn't

843
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:01,880
get because he had taken a job of Scotia

844
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,280
and came back here and that's when we

845
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,920
put it on the

846
00:45:05,920 --> 00:45:09,200
ballot so there was a Amendment to the

847
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,200
Charter that the voters voted in

848
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:16,040
where and that was the department head

849
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:17,760
of the finance director was working that

850
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,040
out prior

851
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,000
Administration uh there was some

852
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,119
question whether not they could do it or

853
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,440
not do it and we took it to the voters

854
00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,559
so that the sole discretion for those

855
00:45:29,559 --> 00:45:31,559
things is the city

856
00:45:31,559 --> 00:45:34,160
council which was approved

857
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:36,960
in November

858
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,240
2011 and just want to mention too the

859
00:45:39,240 --> 00:45:41,800
public service managers have a different

860
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:45,480
uh benefit benefit package then other

861
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,559
managers I just want to make sure that

862
00:45:47,559 --> 00:45:49,559
this plan is I mean that he falls that

863
00:45:49,559 --> 00:45:52,680
there was no Amendment no that I think

864
00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:56,760
uh we sent you the copy of the good

865
00:45:56,760 --> 00:46:02,950
everybody has a copy of that yes

866
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:10,990
okay so thisp a separate

867
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:14,000
docum again it's for two

868
00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:18,829
people I didn't think I got

869
00:46:18,839 --> 00:46:24,790
that no

870
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,870
not

871
00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:31,790
any other question on

872
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:38,680
this the next item is a 1989 495

873
00:46:38,680 --> 00:46:42,760
a-2 a miscellaneous andri expense the

874
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,000
request is

875
00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:49,880
to remove the mayor's recruitment

876
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,800
fund and the other one is a contingency

877
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:56,920
is to explain the 6,000 movements

878
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:59,160
and the actual if you look at the actual

879
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:24,710
there the 60,000

880
00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:41,470
movement

881
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:43,760
exp I think on the last time you gave us

882
00:47:43,760 --> 00:47:46,760
so here

883
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:54,710
on you gave it to us the last time I

884
00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:12,990
think

885
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:18,630
do should be in

886
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:24,630
expenses well give the year to dat right

887
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:29,349
yes

888
00:48:29,359 --> 00:48:32,839
so be just for the revenues John

889
00:48:32,839 --> 00:48:34,960
requested this was the one that you gave

890
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:39,349
out last week and I thought I saw it

891
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:54,589
here I'm not

892
00:48:54,599 --> 00:48:56,520
it

893
00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:58,839
transfer adjustments I I have to check

894
00:48:58,839 --> 00:49:00,319
that out I

895
00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:03,990
exactly

896
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:08,200
yeah I sent um a corrected Year date to

897
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:15,710
the council

898
00:49:15,720 --> 00:49:18,599
email

899
00:49:18,599 --> 00:49:22,200
18 I'm sorry that was what it was that

900
00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:26,240
was the year the adopted budget right

901
00:49:26,240 --> 00:49:30,200
in to dat gotcha gotcha I know I saw it

902
00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:33,720
was it was there an explanation I I

903
00:49:33,720 --> 00:49:35,680
didn't I didn't hear either he said he's

904
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,640
not sure have to look I yeah he has it

905
00:49:38,640 --> 00:49:40,640
but he's not sure okay I see it I have

906
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,000
to look you want I guess I'm not really

907
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:44,400
understanding the question can you just

908
00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:46,960
tell me what you mean by the question an

909
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,240
error it's an error this could be an

910
00:49:49,240 --> 00:49:51,200
error yes yeah yeah that's where the

911
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,400
question was asked why was it $60,000

912
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:56,400
removed from the contingency by

913
00:49:56,400 --> 00:49:59,079
a reduction we don't see where it

914
00:49:59,079 --> 00:50:01,880
doesn't I can find it

915
00:50:01,880 --> 00:50:04,440
okay oh you're looking at something that

916
00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:05,920
I don't have I

917
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:09,240
see we adopted 360 is that what you're

918
00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:12,520
saying yes we did yes 300 I think the

919
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:15,520
300,000 it says 300 yes but it was

920
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:18,799
reduced by 60,000 in the actual okay

921
00:50:18,799 --> 00:50:22,440
gotcha so

922
00:50:22,440 --> 00:50:26,280
want I'm guessing that's a

923
00:50:26,280 --> 00:50:28,559
hope it's an so he just have well

924
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:30,520
contingency what was it used to pay for

925
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:32,599
could have been taken out we use it for

926
00:50:32,599 --> 00:50:36,559
you know lot of demolitions any fires uh

927
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:40,520
any you know uh uh IRS fees or any uh

928
00:50:40,520 --> 00:50:42,559
Government taxes and stuff like that you

929
00:50:42,559 --> 00:50:48,670
know so you want to look it up now or

930
00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:51,000
you see where

931
00:50:51,000 --> 00:50:54,440
transfer I don't think this is the

932
00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:57,040
material change anything this is just a

933
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,240
qu no no I

934
00:50:59,240 --> 00:51:04,319
think yeah we'll send it here

935
00:51:04,319 --> 00:51:06,920
yeah it was just an observation to make

936
00:51:06,920 --> 00:51:09,119
sure I an error to correct it back and

937
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:13,789
put it back in

938
00:51:13,799 --> 00:51:16,359
place any other

939
00:51:16,359 --> 00:51:19,599
questions okay we'll move to um actually

940
00:51:19,599 --> 00:51:23,799
backing up a little bit so

941
00:51:23,799 --> 00:51:28,440
I I think we were told the mayor recruitment funds

942
00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,079
wasn't necessarily just mayor

943
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:32,160
recruitment funds um so one of the

944
00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,400
things I was suggesting was just

945
00:51:33,400 --> 00:51:34,920
changing the name of it but I don't know

946
00:51:34,920 --> 00:51:37,280
about removing the money because the

947
00:51:37,280 --> 00:51:38,960
money actually was used by other

948
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:41,599
departments I believe right right we we

949
00:51:41,599 --> 00:51:44,079
moved it into contingency because uh

950
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:45,480
when it was in the mayor's budget we

951
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:47,079
were told that the only could be used

952
00:51:47,079 --> 00:51:49,839
for the mayor's budget so that's why we

953
00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:51,839
moved into into miscellaneous you moved

954
00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:56,880
it into miscellaneous miscellaneous yeah and that was this that was what it

955
00:51:56,880 --> 00:51:58,640
was called so we kept it that name you

956
00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:02,960
know so again how much I just don't know

957
00:52:02,960 --> 00:52:05,200
that we should remove the 15,000 is all

958
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:07,040
I'm saying but we could change the name

959
00:52:07,040 --> 00:52:08,640
just a recruitment fund was something

960
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:10,680
that we talked about the other

961
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:13,760
night yeah I had that on my

962
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:17,440
questions what was it what was it before

963
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,390
I I think this when this was put in

964
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,280
place

965
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:25,839
May

966
00:52:25,839 --> 00:52:28,319
15000 when went to use it so we couldn't

967
00:52:28,319 --> 00:52:31,200
use it for

968
00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:34,240
anybody just it ca confusion the other

969
00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:35,839
evening because it was called mayor

970
00:52:35,839 --> 00:52:37,799
recruitment funds all I'm suggesting is

971
00:52:37,799 --> 00:52:39,240
that we change the name to recruitment

972
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,839
funds and leave it where it is at 15,000

973
00:52:41,839 --> 00:52:44,000
in that miscellaneous line because I

974
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:45,440
think it was explained to us the other

975
00:52:45,440 --> 00:52:47,119
evening that it is

976
00:52:47,119 --> 00:52:50,640
used um for other areas not the mayor's

977
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:54,230
office correct

978
00:52:54,240 --> 00:52:58,280
okay go ahead please so um look as I see

979
00:52:58,280 --> 00:53:00,119
it wasn't none of it was used last year

980
00:53:00,119 --> 00:53:04,359
according to this and um and what they

981
00:53:04,359 --> 00:53:05,960
said was they moved it there because

982
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:07,040
this we're talking about next year's

983
00:53:07,040 --> 00:53:08,400
budget so it's not that it's already

984
00:53:08,400 --> 00:53:10,440
being used it has the opportunity to be

985
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:11,839
used correct but last year there was

986
00:53:11,839 --> 00:53:14,040
none used I mean I won't call it last

987
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:15,359
year I'll call it this year one of the

988
00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:16,960
reasons was that because it was under

989
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:19,480
the mayor's budget there we were told it

990
00:53:19,480 --> 00:53:22,240
can only increase it for the mayor's

991
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,359
budget people and we're like no we

992
00:53:24,359 --> 00:53:25,880
wanted to use it for

993
00:53:25,880 --> 00:53:28,160
other people you anybody that we H it

994
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,280
was clear the legislative intent was to

995
00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:34,480
allow sen to hire people Citywide not

996
00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,160
just in the mayor's

997
00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,559
office there were no cases where we used

998
00:53:40,559 --> 00:53:42,400
it because we

999
00:53:42,400 --> 00:53:46,079
had uh periods of time where line items

1000
00:53:46,079 --> 00:53:49,319
were vacant so anytime where the salary

1001
00:53:49,319 --> 00:53:51,280
was increased there was money within

1002
00:53:51,280 --> 00:53:54,520
that line so we stayed within the

1003
00:53:54,520 --> 00:53:57,160
approved budg budget

1004
00:53:57,160 --> 00:54:01,079
and you know going forward you want to

1005
00:54:01,079 --> 00:54:03,319
take that out take it out you know

1006
00:54:03,319 --> 00:54:04,760
situation comes up where I need more

1007
00:54:04,760 --> 00:54:06,319
money I'll come back to end something

1008
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:08,920
but at this point you know we've worked

1009
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:13,000
within the adopted budget to can make

1010
00:54:13,000 --> 00:54:15,319
things work and overall hiring has just

1011
00:54:15,319 --> 00:54:17,160
been difficult to find

1012
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,640
people across the board it's not we

1013
00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:24,880
don't have enough money we don't have

1014
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:26,079
enough

1015
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:27,640
candidates

1016
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:34,789
okay any other a question on

1017
00:54:34,799 --> 00:54:36,900
that see now we move to

1018
00:54:36,900 --> 00:54:38,079
[Music]

1019
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:39,960
a989

1020
00:54:39,960 --> 00:54:44,079
499 and that has to do with a senior

1021
00:54:44,079 --> 00:54:47,319
center there's a recommendation here to

1022
00:54:47,319 --> 00:54:51,599
fund all the Senor Center under this

1023
00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:55,480
line including the the one that is

1024
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,040
currently funded on on this line and

1025
00:54:58,040 --> 00:55:03,510
add AOH under this line

1026
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,880
also at

1027
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:10,230
808 anent order of

1028
00:55:10,240 --> 00:55:12,359
H

1029
00:55:12,359 --> 00:55:15,319
so goe so what you're suggesting with

1030
00:55:15,319 --> 00:55:18,079
this is that rather than the Hibernians

1031
00:55:18,079 --> 00:55:20,079
having to apply for cdpg funds that

1032
00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,039
would be out of the operating budget

1033
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:23,680
that's

1034
00:55:23,680 --> 00:55:26,920
correct so all all the senior cies on

1035
00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:30,039
those one

1036
00:55:30,039 --> 00:55:32,799
L so would you want to make the total

1037
00:55:32,799 --> 00:55:37,880
budget be it will be whatever was um

1038
00:55:37,880 --> 00:55:40,880
think it's 45 you'd have to add $49,000

1039
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:42,359
I think to that you had you had a

1040
00:55:42,359 --> 00:55:45,240
revision yes well the Catholic Charity's

1041
00:55:45,240 --> 00:55:47,880
budget is 60,000 for the year

1042
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:52,079
2024 and then I think oh I think that

1043
00:55:52,079 --> 00:55:54,200
the senior centers from the Hibernian

1044
00:55:54,200 --> 00:55:57,960
gets on I think I think 20,000 from cdbg

1045
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,480
and they were going to be short 14 so

1046
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,720
yeah that was we have reserve on the

1047
00:56:03,720 --> 00:56:08,200
cdbg to cover the isn't that yes I think

1048
00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:09,839
D sent that to you

1049
00:56:09,839 --> 00:56:12,559
today you

1050
00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:16,079
those yeah um there's two line items

1051
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:19,440
through CBG currently um one was

1052
00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:23,559
budgeted for 18,000 AG 46 we have about

1053
00:56:23,559 --> 00:56:27,240
5.6 pay left the other one was uh 3,000

1054
00:56:27,240 --> 00:56:31,359
we still have that 3,000 change

1055
00:56:31,359 --> 00:56:35,079
available so 8,000 Al together

1056
00:56:35,079 --> 00:56:37,920
9,000 8,000 or

1057
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:40,599
9,000

1058
00:56:40,599 --> 00:56:42,599
approximately I agree with what you're

1059
00:56:42,599 --> 00:56:44,720
trying to do

1060
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:48,039
there with the exception I would

1061
00:56:48,039 --> 00:56:51,039
recommend that we use already approved

1062
00:56:51,039 --> 00:56:52,839
cdbg

1063
00:56:52,839 --> 00:56:56,240
money uh which won't quite conform to

1064
00:56:56,240 --> 00:56:58,559
the calendar year so some of this would

1065
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,920
go into next year and then really in the

1066
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:06,400
25 budget we would then say put it all

1067
00:57:06,400 --> 00:57:08,119
out of General funds but we use

1068
00:57:08,119 --> 00:57:10,880
whatever's already been approved through

1069
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:16,960
the cdbg process to fund the hians or

1070
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,200
the other meil sites and then make up

1071
00:57:20,200 --> 00:57:23,799
the difference with the general fund

1072
00:57:23,799 --> 00:57:26,920
appropriation that make sense to me

1073
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:27,960
which would mean that we would still

1074
00:57:27,960 --> 00:57:29,760
need to add a little bit money to this

1075
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:34,680
budget line if the big question is the

1076
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:37,280
documentation and getting all the

1077
00:57:37,280 --> 00:57:40,920
support and volunteers to continue the

1078
00:57:40,920 --> 00:57:44,280
program it's very difficult for them um

1079
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:46,039
so they they're

1080
00:57:46,039 --> 00:57:48,079
struggling but I think they've got

1081
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:49,920
everything in order

1082
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,440
for this year and

1083
00:57:53,440 --> 00:57:56,720
if we need something we're going to make

1084
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,710
up the

1085
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:01,799
difference I don't think but I want to

1086
00:58:01,799 --> 00:58:03,390
use the money ins out of

1087
00:58:03,390 --> 00:58:04,799
[Music]

1088
00:58:04,799 --> 00:58:09,589
CVG

1089
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:12,559
first okay how is the other Senior

1090
00:58:12,559 --> 00:58:15,200
Center doing I mean they told

1091
00:58:15,200 --> 00:58:18,000
that posi things right I did write to

1092
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:19,760
them um and she was supposed to get me

1093
00:58:19,760 --> 00:58:21,960
something today but she did not um I

1094
00:58:21,960 --> 00:58:23,599
asked her for a written report I

1095
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:26,480
indicated the questions that you all had

1096
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:29,359
um and she did she was going to get it

1097
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:31,480
today but I didn't get it today so

1098
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,440
before today I asked her for it Jen we

1099
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:38,559
the AOH site might be in a deficit we

1100
00:58:38,559 --> 00:58:41,480
haven't expended on these other sites so

1101
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:42,920
there's enough

1102
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,480
money on the table that I believe I have

1103
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:49,240
the authority to match up to pay those

1104
00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:51,319
bills and then just going forward is

1105
00:58:51,319 --> 00:58:55,480
what we have in place for next year

1106
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:58,039
I I think that's exactly you're trying

1107
00:58:58,039 --> 00:59:01,559
to get yes go ahead so I mean yeah I did

1108
00:59:01,559 --> 00:59:03,839
and Mr pal many also uh wrote it back

1109
00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:06,000
because I had the wrong date of our next

1110
00:59:06,000 --> 00:59:08,559
meeting but um you know I did suggest to

1111
00:59:08,559 --> 00:59:09,640
her that they come and make a

1112
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:11,039
presentation at our next committee

1113
00:59:11,039 --> 00:59:13,440
meeting as well um which obviously is

1114
00:59:13,440 --> 00:59:16,440
not in time for this but

1115
00:59:16,440 --> 00:59:20,359
um she would be I think she was I can't

1116
00:59:20,359 --> 00:59:21,599
remember if she wrote us back for that

1117
00:59:21,599 --> 00:59:23,720
one now yeah we had asked for her to to

1118
00:59:23,720 --> 00:59:26,640
email the documation to support right

1119
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:28,520
and I did not get it yet so maybe I'll

1120
00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:30,119
have it by Friday but I did not get it

1121
00:59:30,119 --> 00:59:33,400
by today we don't know 45 or 60 the

1122
00:59:33,400 --> 00:59:35,559
budget that they've given us for 2024 is

1123
00:59:35,559 --> 00:59:39,160
60 but yes it's that's a a budget that

1124
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:41,480
would Encompass three running senior

1125
00:59:41,480 --> 00:59:43,359
centers and as we mentioned the other

1126
00:59:43,359 --> 00:59:44,920
night we don't currently have three

1127
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,119
running senior centers but we're hoping

1128
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:49,760
to have that in place because currently

1129
00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,440
we budget 45,000 for line and we only

1130
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:55,400
spent about $10,000 actually right yeah

1131
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,270
on the tree size because it's

1132
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,960
not so there's money there to make up

1133
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:07,119
whatever the may need but to still use

1134
01:00:07,119 --> 01:00:14,990
what the cdbg balance is 9,000

1135
01:00:15,000 --> 01:00:23,549
1765 people and then they have their

1136
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:26,400
allocation yeah yeah but when did they

1137
01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,480
get it the I'm not sure when the year is

1138
01:00:29,480 --> 01:00:31,240
but he definitely indicated that he had

1139
01:00:31,240 --> 01:00:34,670
a $20,000

1140
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:40,359
CD for for for 2023 not

1141
01:00:40,359 --> 01:00:44,359
2024 okay I think everybody everybody go

1142
01:00:44,359 --> 01:00:47,000
ahead please oh so we would spend that

1143
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,640
that's yeah that's exactly what I agree

1144
01:00:49,640 --> 01:00:52,240
with me in terms because the volunteers

1145
01:00:52,240 --> 01:00:54,760
they're not getting a m of volunteers

1146
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:56,200
the documentation and things like that

1147
01:00:56,200 --> 01:00:58,079
so tapping into this line and utilize

1148
01:00:58,079 --> 01:00:59,880
some of the balance against the 45 will

1149
01:00:59,880 --> 01:01:01,839
help them along the because people are

1150
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:03,480
falling apart they're moving away

1151
01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,640
because no he definitely

1152
01:01:05,640 --> 01:01:07,480
need

1153
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:10,319
exactly so I'm good with that I'm good

1154
01:01:10,319 --> 01:01:11,839
with that

1155
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:21,990
explanation and I will get you the other

1156
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:25,359
documentation so in that because then

1157
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:27,680
there's another question it's like at

1158
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:29,559
the back where we're so are we going to

1159
01:01:29,559 --> 01:01:33,520
talk about increasing this line to the

1160
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:36,520
60,000 or not because that's separate I

1161
01:01:36,520 --> 01:01:37,640
mean it's I mean it's not separate it's

1162
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:39,200
the same discuss no it is yeah I hear

1163
01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,720
what you're saying so I guess that's up

1164
01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,079
to the council but um the Catholic

1165
01:01:43,079 --> 01:01:44,760
Charity's budget that they gave us was

1166
01:01:44,760 --> 01:01:46,079
for

1167
01:01:46,079 --> 01:01:50,440
$60,000 um there's 45 here I mean

1168
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:52,680
that's it's it's definitely going to be

1169
01:01:52,680 --> 01:01:53,920
dependent on when they get everything

1170
01:01:53,920 --> 01:01:56,039
else up been running but I would well

1171
01:01:56,039 --> 01:01:58,480
that should be relatively I think so too

1172
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:00,799
food costs have gone up that's why the

1173
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:03,880
increase in the expenses the bellw site

1174
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:06,480
is very successful the new St John site

1175
01:02:06,480 --> 01:02:09,039
is pretty successful it's I'm honor of

1176
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:11,599
getting the third site up and running

1177
01:02:11,599 --> 01:02:14,319
and going into the new year the Hamilton

1178
01:02:14,319 --> 01:02:17,920
Hill site unfortunately was just a

1179
01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:21,119
disaster as was the uh

1180
01:02:21,119 --> 01:02:23,359
Goose yeah we talked about it the other

1181
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:25,440
night

1182
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:27,799
so may I suggest just keep the keep it

1183
01:02:27,799 --> 01:02:30,400
at the 45 and then when we have the

1184
01:02:30,400 --> 01:02:32,240
report presentation we can always do an

1185
01:02:32,240 --> 01:02:34,680
amendment next year to increase it and

1186
01:02:34,680 --> 01:02:37,200
to add these four

1187
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,920
centers fund these four centers

1188
01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:43,269
adequately

1189
01:02:43,279 --> 01:02:45,440
funding I don't think that should be any

1190
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,720
none of us no I don't we want to so I'm

1191
01:02:49,720 --> 01:02:51,640
okay with keeping the 45 may explain

1192
01:02:51,640 --> 01:02:55,079
there the $9,000 remaining CBG so

1193
01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:58,240
I born in 45 and pay the bills get a

1194
01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,599
bill paid we can RIT after the

1195
01:03:02,599 --> 01:03:04,520
presentation and see if we need to

1196
01:03:04,520 --> 01:03:09,750
increase it to the

1197
01:03:09,760 --> 01:03:14,599
60 CU Ians needed another 14 on addition

1198
01:03:14,599 --> 01:03:16,119
unless others have suggestion do you

1199
01:03:16,119 --> 01:03:17,920
want to move it to 60,000 right now and

1200
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,760
not avoid an amendment so that will

1201
01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:24,039
cover for all four centers yeah I think

1202
01:03:24,039 --> 01:03:26,000
it will

1203
01:03:26,000 --> 01:03:28,359
at disapp pointed we've only used Mr Fry

1204
01:03:28,359 --> 01:03:31,079
we've only used $10,000 of the

1205
01:03:31,079 --> 01:03:35,240
45 I believe so yeah that's

1206
01:03:35,240 --> 01:03:37,880
correct and and

1207
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:41,200
um I can't think of his name he already

1208
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:46,319
secured $20,000 for cdbg y Dave so but

1209
01:03:46,319 --> 01:03:51,279
they just need uh 14 more yes and we

1210
01:03:51,279 --> 01:03:54,880
need 60 yes and we should have 35

1211
01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:58,400
left doesn't roll they don't roll they

1212
01:03:58,400 --> 01:04:00,760
don't roll over but I think there's a

1213
01:04:00,760 --> 01:04:03,839
little bit of wiggle room yeah with the

1214
01:04:03,839 --> 01:04:06,119
c with this I would suggest we put the

1215
01:04:06,119 --> 01:04:09,039
60 in there now that's what I think too

1216
01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:10,760
instead of revisiting if that's what

1217
01:04:10,760 --> 01:04:13,279
cathol charity say they

1218
01:04:13,279 --> 01:04:15,960
need so the suggestion is on the table

1219
01:04:15,960 --> 01:04:18,880
to increase this line by 15,000 to make

1220
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:20,039
it

1221
01:04:20,039 --> 01:04:23,680
60,000 and this will help to cover the

1222
01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:24,799
four

1223
01:04:24,799 --> 01:04:28,559
plus the city whatever that go ahead

1224
01:04:28,559 --> 01:04:30,319
please no I would support that and I

1225
01:04:30,319 --> 01:04:32,920
just want to as um as was stated that

1226
01:04:32,920 --> 01:04:35,200
there were two sites that didn't weren't

1227
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,440
successful we'll say but I want to make

1228
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,160
sure that when we whatever the fourth

1229
01:04:39,160 --> 01:04:42,599
site is or the when we get the to I call

1230
01:04:42,599 --> 01:04:43,799
the fourth because I'm concluding the

1231
01:04:43,799 --> 01:04:46,400
Hibernian that we make sure that they're

1232
01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:48,400
um they're spread out within within the

1233
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,200
city and it's not concentrated all in

1234
01:04:50,200 --> 01:04:51,920
one part of the city and I did I think

1235
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:54,279
that's important um into the email that

1236
01:04:54,279 --> 01:04:56,559
sent um to them the other

1237
01:04:56,559 --> 01:05:01,240
day Okay so yeah it's um I think we're

1238
01:05:01,240 --> 01:05:03,000
going to use it you also have to

1239
01:05:03,000 --> 01:05:06,720
remember having the SS here hits the key

1240
01:05:06,720 --> 01:05:08,880
neighborhoods that are trying to be hit

1241
01:05:08,880 --> 01:05:13,039
the north side Hamilton Hill Mount

1242
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:15,599
Pleasant those are all relatively close

1243
01:05:15,599 --> 01:05:19,279
as is the stock Cas so those would be

1244
01:05:19,279 --> 01:05:22,799
here wood lawn's covered B views covered

1245
01:05:22,799 --> 01:05:25,480
how's Hamilton Hill in Pleasant

1246
01:05:25,480 --> 01:05:28,359
covered I having the site relatively

1247
01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,640
over here it's literally just a few

1248
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:34,319
blocks you mean St John's

1249
01:05:34,319 --> 01:05:38,599
yes I wouldn't call it a few blocks but

1250
01:05:38,599 --> 01:05:41,599
okay if you have to trudge in the snow I

1251
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:46,319
can call three Block it's some distance

1252
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:49,680
yeah any other question on this so we're

1253
01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,960
um I make notes here so we can make

1254
01:05:51,960 --> 01:05:54,160
notes on that that would be increased to

1255
01:05:54,160 --> 01:05:56,200
was

1256
01:05:56,200 --> 01:05:59,440
60,000 any other question on this okay

1257
01:05:59,440 --> 01:06:05,549
we're moving to a 3122

1258
01:06:05,559 --> 01:06:08,799
d112 The Proposal here is to increase

1259
01:06:08,799 --> 01:06:12,440
the 2023 over time line by

1260
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:21,630
44,1 161 to bring that line to $2

1261
01:06:21,640 --> 01:06:25,720
million here's a Nar l that's the

1262
01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:31,230
why yeah that's not an

1263
01:06:31,240 --> 01:06:34,240
increase the narrative talks about

1264
01:06:34,240 --> 01:06:37,720
decreases line it increase it so what

1265
01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:38,680
are you

1266
01:06:38,680 --> 01:06:41,359
doing I was confused right that

1267
01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:43,680
too they're

1268
01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:46,400
cutting decreasing by

1269
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:50,240
500,000 right an

1270
01:06:50,240 --> 01:06:53,799
increase it's an increase on top of 2023

1271
01:06:53,799 --> 01:06:57,230
like

1272
01:06:57,240 --> 01:07:01,319
456 but it's a decrease adjustment of

1273
01:07:01,319 --> 01:07:04,760
yes it's not what's totally asked

1274
01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:12,789
for no right that's what it is

1275
01:07:12,799 --> 01:07:15,319
500,000 yeah I wouldn't support

1276
01:07:15,319 --> 01:07:17,480
decreasing that budget I think that

1277
01:07:17,480 --> 01:07:19,240
especially now while we're still having

1278
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:21,520
issues in terms of recruiting additional

1279
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:24,400
officers and and such I mean I think

1280
01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:27,359
clear case was made for overtime um by

1281
01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:29,400
the chief and the assistant chief when

1282
01:07:29,400 --> 01:07:31,640
they were here the other day so I would

1283
01:07:31,640 --> 01:07:34,880
like to keep that at the uh suggested

1284
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:40,230
the suggested expense in the

1285
01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:43,799
budget go ahead please so um as I recall

1286
01:07:43,799 --> 01:07:45,440
the conversation as well that the chief

1287
01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:46,640
said they were going to be putting new

1288
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:49,079
officers on and

1289
01:07:49,079 --> 01:07:53,319
um in May so that you know that should I

1290
01:07:53,319 --> 01:07:54,760
would expect more more officers less

1291
01:07:54,760 --> 01:07:58,039
overtime for those currently and as I

1292
01:07:58,039 --> 01:07:59,720
recall you know when they came to us

1293
01:07:59,720 --> 01:08:03,680
regarding axon and and all the other um

1294
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:05,359
technological advances one of the things

1295
01:08:05,359 --> 01:08:07,200
that was said time and time again was

1296
01:08:07,200 --> 01:08:09,200
that this would give officers more time

1297
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,799
on the street and reduce them having to

1298
01:08:11,799 --> 01:08:15,200
be um doing come back into the station

1299
01:08:15,200 --> 01:08:16,480
do a lot of things so therefore not

1300
01:08:16,480 --> 01:08:18,719
kicking into overtime I remember that

1301
01:08:18,719 --> 01:08:22,829
being part of the discussion those

1302
01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:25,870
discussions

1303
01:08:25,880 --> 01:08:29,279
go ahead pleas um so uh just to say that

1304
01:08:29,279 --> 01:08:31,159
yes they're having more officers and may

1305
01:08:31,159 --> 01:08:33,040
also explain that from the time some you

1306
01:08:33,040 --> 01:08:36,080
know uh recruits start their program

1307
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:38,319
it's about a year so I don't know how

1308
01:08:38,319 --> 01:08:40,080
many recruits he'll have starting in May

1309
01:08:40,080 --> 01:08:41,719
and he did mention that they lose a lot

1310
01:08:41,719 --> 01:08:43,239
of folks as soon as they go through

1311
01:08:43,239 --> 01:08:45,120
training so we we can't automatically

1312
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:47,120
assume that there's there'll be enough

1313
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,679
officers coming on in May or a year from

1314
01:08:49,679 --> 01:08:52,159
the next recruitment class so um I

1315
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:54,759
definitely would not want to put myself

1316
01:08:54,759 --> 01:08:56,600
in the entire city at Bay by not

1317
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:01,040
allowing the additional overtime U I

1318
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,679
agree go ahead please right I think it's

1319
01:09:03,679 --> 01:09:06,199
important to make like two distinctions

1320
01:09:06,199 --> 01:09:09,520
uh one proposing a budget in all shapes

1321
01:09:09,520 --> 01:09:11,080
and FES doesn't mean that it's a

1322
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:13,560
guaranteed ask I think we had the same

1323
01:09:13,560 --> 01:09:15,560
conversation last year we're looking at

1324
01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,359
this recommended uh amount is a

1325
01:09:18,359 --> 01:09:21,000
significant increase to the 2023 adopted

1326
01:09:21,000 --> 01:09:23,319
budget uh I think Chief Cliff has been a

1327
01:09:23,319 --> 01:09:25,480
parent as saying that the community is

1328
01:09:25,480 --> 01:09:28,040
not at Jeopardy and I think it is also

1329
01:09:28,040 --> 01:09:29,799
important to note that the Investments

1330
01:09:29,799 --> 01:09:32,480
that we're making in uh some of the

1331
01:09:32,480 --> 01:09:34,719
anti-violence programs I think at some

1332
01:09:34,719 --> 01:09:37,560
point those are going to need to either

1333
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:39,719
assist with curving and addressing some

1334
01:09:39,719 --> 01:09:43,159
of the um prevent preventative U

1335
01:09:43,159 --> 01:09:44,600
mechanisms that are providing

1336
01:09:44,600 --> 01:09:47,239
individuals help lless to use violence

1337
01:09:47,239 --> 01:09:48,799
um but also I do agree with Miss

1338
01:09:48,799 --> 01:09:50,400
Porterfield that investments in

1339
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,239
technology uh to equp this point has

1340
01:09:53,239 --> 01:09:56,000
yielded improvements um so I think uh

1341
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,400
increasing it beyond the adopted to 2023

1342
01:09:59,400 --> 01:10:01,480
budget is a consideration I'm willing to

1343
01:10:01,480 --> 01:10:05,040
make and then uh confidently uh seeking

1344
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:06,480
out that these eight individuals that

1345
01:10:06,480 --> 01:10:07,880
are going to graduate from the academy

1346
01:10:07,880 --> 01:10:10,920
in May 2024 and the continued efforts of

1347
01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:13,199
not only police department but also our

1348
01:10:13,199 --> 01:10:15,880
uh Community programs to invest in

1349
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:17,920
community policing that supports the

1350
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:20,600
entire community of sity uh taking up

1351
01:10:20,600 --> 01:10:24,640
this this uh not fight um for this

1352
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,800
stance of how do we address and make

1353
01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:28,920
sure that our public is safe I think

1354
01:10:28,920 --> 01:10:32,149
that is a comfortable

1355
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:35,040
number I do want to point out that we

1356
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:39,440
spent almost 2500 uh 2.5 million in um

1357
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:44,920
20122 so already the 2023 budget was

1358
01:10:44,920 --> 01:10:48,360
like a million dollars less and um I I'm

1359
01:10:48,360 --> 01:10:50,040
sorry I didn't bring my what what have

1360
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:52,480
we spent so far our year to date is 1.8

1361
01:10:52,480 --> 01:10:58,640
million 1. 8 million 18 1.84 Z 577 so we

1362
01:10:58,640 --> 01:11:03,320
have about I don't know like 150,000 um

1363
01:11:03,320 --> 01:11:06,080
to remain for the rest of

1364
01:11:06,080 --> 01:11:09,120
2023 because right now they we're 25

1365
01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:12,280
people short on the street so I don't

1366
01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:13,800
know I mean I think that was the

1367
01:11:13,800 --> 01:11:16,880
justification and I hear you know the

1368
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:19,440
technology piece I think will help

1369
01:11:19,440 --> 01:11:21,239
moving forward but I still think that

1370
01:11:21,239 --> 01:11:23,239
that's still pretty new as well in terms

1371
01:11:23,239 --> 01:11:24,080
of

1372
01:11:24,080 --> 01:11:27,159
being um

1373
01:11:27,159 --> 01:11:29,360
operational so I think it's going to

1374
01:11:29,360 --> 01:11:31,400
take some time to see the you know

1375
01:11:31,400 --> 01:11:36,080
hopeful hopeful um outcome that we are

1376
01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,040
anticipating with that as

1377
01:11:38,040 --> 01:11:41,880
well so where did you get our 25 from

1378
01:11:41,880 --> 01:11:44,199
where did I get the

1379
01:11:44,199 --> 01:11:51,159
22481 349 is what we spent in 20 no no you're saying that were 13 24 people

1380
01:11:51,159 --> 01:11:54,480
13 vacancies 12 in training and 25

1381
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:56,080
people short on the street is what they

1382
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:57,480
said the other evening when they came

1383
01:11:57,480 --> 01:12:05,229
and presented is coming on in May

1384
01:12:05,239 --> 01:12:07,400
yep unless I wrote it down wrong but

1385
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,120
that's what

1386
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:14,280
iy 12 training is going on in me that's

1387
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:18,760
what yeah maybe I wrote it down anybody

1388
01:12:18,760 --> 01:12:20,920
else

1389
01:12:20,920 --> 01:12:24,639
okay I had a question on this

1390
01:12:24,639 --> 01:12:27,120
then we'll move

1391
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:31,760
into we'll move into a 3123

1392
01:12:31,760 --> 01:12:35,560
d112 and there is a proposal here to

1393
01:12:35,560 --> 01:12:40,440
increase on the 2023 of timeline by

1394
01:12:40,440 --> 01:12:45,040
105,000 to bring that line to 2024 line

1395
01:12:45,040 --> 01:12:52,110
to 880,000

1396
01:12:52,120 --> 01:12:55,000
currently leader line the

1397
01:12:55,000 --> 01:13:02,990
propos

1398
01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,080
990,000 again I mean look at what we

1399
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:10,960
spent in 2022 1259 893 so

1400
01:13:10,960 --> 01:13:16,360
um you know not in 2023 2022 2022 I'm

1401
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:18,400
just looking and I'm I'm looking at our

1402
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:22,070
year to date right now it's

1403
01:13:22,080 --> 01:13:23,960
86399 so

1404
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,320
it's it it I guess I'm guessing with the

1405
01:13:26,320 --> 01:13:28,239
crime going down and all the technology

1406
01:13:28,239 --> 01:13:32,440
that's added you can see that we're not quite it even that what we're

1407
01:13:32,440 --> 01:13:36,629
out we're considering allocating for

1408
01:13:36,639 --> 01:13:40,199
2024 the year to date please so

1409
01:13:40,199 --> 01:13:41,800
technology is really not going to help

1410
01:13:41,800 --> 01:13:43,679
too much in the investigation piece

1411
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:45,320
because you get a murder or something

1412
01:13:45,320 --> 01:13:49,080
you have just look at the the murders

1413
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,560
that we had that's where all the extra

1414
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:54,840
costs are uh it's just Manpower and just

1415
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,880
trudging through it that's where the

1416
01:13:56,880 --> 01:13:59,510
expenses

1417
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,760
are go ahead please I would just

1418
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:03,120
disagree only for an instance that

1419
01:14:03,120 --> 01:14:05,320
everything generates paperwork and my

1420
01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:08,360
time um I need to go more recently I

1421
01:14:08,360 --> 01:14:15,350
think saving that time is also c as

1422
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:18,040
well just a process question so when we

1423
01:14:18,040 --> 01:14:19,360
get through all of these things we're

1424
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:21,400
going to go back and make final

1425
01:14:21,400 --> 01:14:22,880
decisions right we're not these are not

1426
01:14:22,880 --> 01:14:24,120
our

1427
01:14:24,120 --> 01:14:26,719
yeah I'm running this through every

1428
01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:30,600
discussion okay then we'll go back and U

1429
01:14:30,600 --> 01:14:33,159
just move quickly through them if we are

1430
01:14:33,159 --> 01:14:35,120
for or against

1431
01:14:35,120 --> 01:14:41,229
it any other question on

1432
01:14:41,239 --> 01:14:47,629
this seeing none we'll move to a 3412

1433
01:14:47,639 --> 01:14:50,920
d112 and this is the fire fighter ask is

1434
01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:55,159
increase over 2023 over time line by

1435
01:14:55,159 --> 01:14:58,719
209,000 and to bring the 2024 proposed

1436
01:14:58,719 --> 01:15:02,350
line to a mil

1437
01:15:02,360 --> 01:15:06,000
70,000 so cutting 500,000 from the

1438
01:15:06,000 --> 01:15:22,189
request right it was

1439
01:15:22,199 --> 01:15:25,040
1.57

1440
01:15:25,040 --> 01:15:27,550
open

1441
01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:31,159
professionals um as I was offer the I'm

1442
01:15:31,159 --> 01:15:32,840
sorry I'll offer the year to date which

1443
01:15:32,840 --> 01:15:36,110
is

1444
01:15:36,120 --> 01:15:40,320
75458 754 I'm sorry

1445
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:44,480
586 93 cents I think that went up 10 we

1446
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:47,239
were 740 when we talked about it last

1447
01:15:47,239 --> 01:15:49,239
time yeah so that's how much it went up

1448
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:50,920
just since

1449
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,590
74 14,000

1450
01:15:55,600 --> 01:16:01,590
that print out was come October

1451
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:04,800
4th question ahead please if I'm not

1452
01:16:04,800 --> 01:16:06,560
looking at you please call

1453
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,920
me I'm buring my head in here trying to

1454
01:16:08,920 --> 01:16:11,639
make no I would say I absolutely hear

1455
01:16:11,639 --> 01:16:13,760
the statements from my colleagues uh but

1456
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:16,000
I would say if your stance is that

1457
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,679
overtime is needed then I think my

1458
01:16:17,679 --> 01:16:19,320
response would be then what are the

1459
01:16:19,320 --> 01:16:21,280
benefits of having us continually fund

1460
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:24,080
Public Safety Foundation efforts

1461
01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:26,280
well I have to say that the public

1462
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,120
safety Foundation efforts are complet

1463
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,360
it's like comparing apples and oranges

1464
01:16:30,360 --> 01:16:31,560
the reason that we have the public

1465
01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,360
safety foundations is so that the

1466
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:35,639
officers can be out there at community

1467
01:16:35,639 --> 01:16:37,800
events like common Unity

1468
01:16:37,800 --> 01:16:41,159
or I'd have to go back and look at other

1469
01:16:41,159 --> 01:16:43,159
events but I think those are it's it's

1470
01:16:43,159 --> 01:16:46,470
like having

1471
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,600
um this this is Public Safety I mean in

1472
01:16:49,600 --> 01:16:51,360
terms of fire and police to have the

1473
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:53,760
overtime because we need it right now

1474
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:55,880
we're you obviously using it in terms of

1475
01:16:55,880 --> 01:16:59,199
getting folks out there on the street

1476
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:00,760
whether they're fighting fires or

1477
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:04,760
fighting crime versus um I think it's 25

1478
01:17:04,760 --> 01:17:07,679
for each right $50,000 total for the

1479
01:17:07,679 --> 01:17:09,360
police and the

1480
01:17:09,360 --> 01:17:12,600
fire it's getting like they going to

1481
01:17:12,600 --> 01:17:15,440
family fund day at steth Park giving out

1482
01:17:15,440 --> 01:17:19,679
stuff or or SC AC this weekend um you

1483
01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:21,600
know what I mean it's like a it's like

1484
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:24,920
having opportunity for our firefighters

1485
01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,560
and our police to

1486
01:17:26,560 --> 01:17:30,159
be interacting in an informal way with

1487
01:17:30,159 --> 01:17:32,480
the community versus for

1488
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:34,080
$50,000

1489
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:38,880
versus them doing the work of Public

1490
01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,000
Safety um so that's the difference I see

1491
01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,120
go ahead please I would say the times

1492
01:17:45,120 --> 01:17:46,440
that I've seen the firefighters out in

1493
01:17:46,440 --> 01:17:47,920
the public they're handing out pamphlets

1494
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,159
and brochures that are promoting best

1495
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:52,760
safe practices to decrease of fires and

1496
01:17:52,760 --> 01:17:53,520
homes

1497
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:55,040
so I think these types of efforts are

1498
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:58,600
very important and I think very vital to

1499
01:17:58,600 --> 01:18:00,120
not only addressing households in

1500
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,880
general but also uh to making sure that

1501
01:18:02,880 --> 01:18:04,440
we're addressing these concerns with

1502
01:18:04,440 --> 01:18:06,600
people at their infantile stages so that

1503
01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,239
kids grow up with this understanding and

1504
01:18:08,239 --> 01:18:10,159
naturally incorporate into their lives

1505
01:18:10,159 --> 01:18:11,760
but I I imagine that they're having

1506
01:18:11,760 --> 01:18:13,639
these types of conversations I don't

1507
01:18:13,639 --> 01:18:15,239
think that they're just talking about

1508
01:18:15,239 --> 01:18:17,280
how cool their uniforms look even no but

1509
01:18:17,280 --> 01:18:19,120
are you suggesting that we cut the 50

1510
01:18:19,120 --> 01:18:22,320
the 25 and the 25 I'm saying that these

1511
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:23,960
I'm saying these typ of efforts have an

1512
01:18:23,960 --> 01:18:26,360
impact on our community totally great oh

1513
01:18:26,360 --> 01:18:28,280
no totally but I'm saying specifically

1514
01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,880
with respect to improving Public Safety

1515
01:18:31,880 --> 01:18:33,560
so I'm saying these types of Investments

1516
01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:35,400
that we're making should have cost

1517
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:37,400
savings overall in

1518
01:18:37,400 --> 01:18:40,800
overtime not on the own but cumulatively

1519
01:18:40,800 --> 01:18:43,760
and I'm wrapping in the technological Investments we're making

1520
01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:45,560
also and the fact that we are bringing

1521
01:18:45,560 --> 01:18:48,080
in our officer or not in respect to the

1522
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:50,840
Fire Department chief uh Chief Marino is

1523
01:18:50,840 --> 01:18:52,920
reevaluating how to make sure that he is

1524
01:18:52,920 --> 01:18:54,760
increasing a staffing level by thinking

1525
01:18:54,760 --> 01:18:57,120
of a revolutionary concept of now hiring

1526
01:18:57,120 --> 01:18:59,239
EMTs and training them I think these

1527
01:18:59,239 --> 01:19:00,880
types of Investments are going to allow

1528
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,040
us to mind cost savings I I totally

1529
01:19:04,040 --> 01:19:05,440
agree with what you just said but I

1530
01:19:05,440 --> 01:19:06,960
think it it's going to take some time

1531
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,159
for those things to happen and so I

1532
01:19:09,159 --> 01:19:11,000
think we're in agreement that the 25 and

1533
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,280
the 25 obviously are adding to

1534
01:19:15,280 --> 01:19:18,719
the safety issues I don't disagree with

1535
01:19:18,719 --> 01:19:20,280
you there but I still think that boots

1536
01:19:20,280 --> 01:19:23,280
on the ground um fighting fires and F in

1537
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:26,920
crime um has to happen and I also agree

1538
01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:28,679
with you that I thought you know they're

1539
01:19:28,679 --> 01:19:31,679
both trying to have as many creative

1540
01:19:31,679 --> 01:19:33,960
ways to increase recruitment I mean

1541
01:19:33,960 --> 01:19:37,679
clearly unfortunately um some of the

1542
01:19:37,679 --> 01:19:39,000
negative things that have happened over

1543
01:19:39,000 --> 01:19:43,000
the last few years have have um placed a

1544
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,040
stigma on people not applying to be

1545
01:19:45,040 --> 01:19:48,120
police officers for example um I think

1546
01:19:48,120 --> 01:19:50,159
it's different with the firefighters but

1547
01:19:50,159 --> 01:19:51,719
I guess you know from talking with Chief

1548
01:19:51,719 --> 01:19:54,440
Marino there's been a reduction in the

1549
01:19:54,440 --> 01:19:55,639
number of people that want to go into

1550
01:19:55,639 --> 01:19:59,960
firefighting as well um so I just think

1551
01:19:59,960 --> 01:20:02,360
I hear what you're saying but I think

1552
01:20:02,360 --> 01:20:04,320
going into a classroom of third graders

1553
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,400
and teaching them about fire safety is

1554
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,159
really important and is something that

1555
01:20:08,159 --> 01:20:09,600
probably has been happening even all our

1556
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:13,920
lives right um but I think having still

1557
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,760
the amount of funding that they need and

1558
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:17,440
that they're requesting to go out and do

1559
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:20,920
their jobs I think in the immediate as

1560
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,800
opposed to when that third grader

1561
01:20:23,800 --> 01:20:27,280
you know hopefully is owning a house and

1562
01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:31,080
trying their best to prevent fires um

1563
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:34,120
you know no I I I can speak on this one

1564
01:20:34,120 --> 01:20:35,560
because it was a recommendation from me

1565
01:20:35,560 --> 01:20:38,360
and you were putting $50,000 towards

1566
01:20:38,360 --> 01:20:39,760
Public Safety Foundation under the

1567
01:20:39,760 --> 01:20:42,840
police and was me as a um contribution

1568
01:20:42,840 --> 01:20:44,840
to say let's split it between the two

1569
01:20:44,840 --> 01:20:47,960
Department 25 years to get them involved

1570
01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:49,520
in the community so that they can bridge

1571
01:20:49,520 --> 01:20:51,440
that Gap you know that stigma that is

1572
01:20:51,440 --> 01:20:53,400
happening interact with Community to get

1573
01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:54,920
them more involved let's hear what's

1574
01:20:54,920 --> 01:20:56,239
happening out there and I think they're

1575
01:20:56,239 --> 01:20:57,280
doing a good

1576
01:20:57,280 --> 01:20:59,480
jobr we just need to expand it a little

1577
01:20:59,480 --> 01:21:02,080
bit more provide more support to them

1578
01:21:02,080 --> 01:21:04,560
maybe consider next year to increase it

1579
01:21:04,560 --> 01:21:06,400
so you know it's all a good thing

1580
01:21:06,400 --> 01:21:08,400
happening there the interaction is very

1581
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,480
important for building bridges in our

1582
01:21:10,480 --> 01:21:12,920
compan

1583
01:21:12,920 --> 01:21:15,400
IE go ahead please again I'm just always

1584
01:21:15,400 --> 01:21:16,679
going to bring forward that you know I'm

1585
01:21:16,679 --> 01:21:17,960
keeping track of what we're spending

1586
01:21:17,960 --> 01:21:20,880
year to date and based on that I I you

1587
01:21:20,880 --> 01:21:23,080
know I think I'm comfortable with with

1588
01:21:23,080 --> 01:21:25,239
this uh it looks like they're having the

1589
01:21:25,239 --> 01:21:28,719
ability to cut down on their overtime um

1590
01:21:28,719 --> 01:21:33,920
from years past versus this year so I

1591
01:21:33,920 --> 01:21:35,480
think that's how that's how one of the

1592
01:21:35,480 --> 01:21:37,480
reasons we have to look at this as we

1593
01:21:37,480 --> 01:21:39,400
improve the technology as we have more

1594
01:21:39,400 --> 01:21:41,719
firefighters as as they get grants from

1595
01:21:41,719 --> 01:21:43,480
other places and specifically when I say

1596
01:21:43,480 --> 01:21:44,800
that I want to talk about I mean the

1597
01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:46,199
police department because they're

1598
01:21:46,199 --> 01:21:48,840
applying and as you know they come

1599
01:21:48,840 --> 01:21:51,840
before us multiple times um with grants

1600
01:21:51,840 --> 01:21:53,600
that they get and those grants also

1601
01:21:53,600 --> 01:21:56,440
supplement existing staff it's just not

1602
01:21:56,440 --> 01:21:59,040
for bullets and holsters and things like

1603
01:21:59,040 --> 01:22:01,400
that some of the grants like if if they

1604
01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:03,480
need Personnel to do specific things

1605
01:22:03,480 --> 01:22:08,390
they're paid for out of the grant as

1606
01:22:08,400 --> 01:22:11,400
well any other

1607
01:22:11,400 --> 01:22:16,239
questions okay so now move on to um a361

1608
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:19,920
14-404 police review board and the

1609
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,560
recommendation

1610
01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:24,320
here recommendation here is to increase

1611
01:22:24,320 --> 01:22:28,040
the fees for service line by

1612
01:22:28,040 --> 01:22:32,199
10,000 and to reduce the outside legal

1613
01:22:32,199 --> 01:22:35,229
councel by

1614
01:22:35,239 --> 01:22:38,840
10,000 that is just a movement

1615
01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:41,520
there please again I think the 5,000

1616
01:22:41,520 --> 01:22:43,320
covers what they need in terms of their

1617
01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:44,840
professional development and their

1618
01:22:44,840 --> 01:22:49,120
membership fee in um nle nle and the

1619
01:22:49,120 --> 01:22:52,120
conference I guess the conference is

1620
01:22:52,120 --> 01:22:53,880
like three ,000 or something and the

1621
01:22:53,880 --> 01:22:56,480
membership but I would do away again

1622
01:22:56,480 --> 01:23:02,920
with the 25,000 um in outside um I don't think they need the

1623
01:23:02,920 --> 01:23:03,920
outside

1624
01:23:03,920 --> 01:23:07,400
Council go ahead please um so I I I have

1625
01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:09,040
to say that I think that the training

1626
01:23:09,040 --> 01:23:11,280
right now if a training cost $3,000 with

1627
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:13,040
$5,000 they couldn't even send two

1628
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,000
people and I don't really think it's as

1629
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:17,000
beneficial for just one person to go and

1630
01:23:17,000 --> 01:23:19,199
to bring back the information that more

1631
01:23:19,199 --> 01:23:20,440
than one person should have the

1632
01:23:20,440 --> 01:23:23,000
opportunity to attend the training if

1633
01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:24,199
for some reason that person leaves the

1634
01:23:24,199 --> 01:23:26,400
board or whatever the case may be so I

1635
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:29,440
think beneficially uh for for this

1636
01:23:29,440 --> 01:23:31,159
particular review board if we're

1637
01:23:31,159 --> 01:23:32,360
especially if we're going to kind of

1638
01:23:32,360 --> 01:23:34,960
keep up with what's going on in terms of

1639
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:37,320
um review boards and having them

1640
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,320
exchange information with people who do

1641
01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,920
similar things around the country I

1642
01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:42,080
think it's important that we send more

1643
01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:43,760
than one person to a training if

1644
01:23:43,760 --> 01:23:46,679
possible so um I would support having

1645
01:23:46,679 --> 01:23:49,159
enough money for at least uh two people

1646
01:23:49,159 --> 01:23:50,840
go I know at one point they had and then

1647
01:23:50,840 --> 01:23:53,040
we have to pay to be Parton they call

1648
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:54,480
and at one point they decided they

1649
01:23:54,480 --> 01:23:57,080
didn't want to be but our our yeah they

1650
01:23:57,080 --> 01:23:59,800
our um our ordinance clearly says that

1651
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,080
you have to be yeah so there's that

1652
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:03,400
payment and then you know people go on

1653
01:24:03,400 --> 01:24:05,760
the training and like this time maybe

1654
01:24:05,760 --> 01:24:08,159
it's 3,000 one only one person could go

1655
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:10,520
so I I would suggest that we keep we put

1656
01:24:10,520 --> 01:24:12,120
enough money in to allow people to go

1657
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,199
training if we really want the best

1658
01:24:14,199 --> 01:24:16,560
training for our board members some

1659
01:24:16,560 --> 01:24:18,320
boards pay people to be on them and this

1660
01:24:18,320 --> 01:24:20,520
one doesn't so they're volunteers this

1661
01:24:20,520 --> 01:24:22,760
is an opportunity for them to increase

1662
01:24:22,760 --> 01:24:24,800
their skill set in terms of serving as

1663
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,719
volunteers so we could reduce the coun

1664
01:24:27,719 --> 01:24:30,120
outside Council I do have a question I

1665
01:24:30,120 --> 01:24:32,080
think does someone from your office now

1666
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:35,800
go to those um we go as needed um I've

1667
01:24:35,800 --> 01:24:38,320
been in communication with the police

1668
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:42,080
department staff who have those meetings

1669
01:24:42,080 --> 01:24:45,600
um and if they feel or the chairperson

1670
01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,080
from the cprb feels that it's needed for

1671
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,520
somebody from my office to ATT

1672
01:24:50,520 --> 01:24:54,360
will it hasn't come up um there were the

1673
01:24:54,360 --> 01:24:56,800
only questions that have ever come up um

1674
01:24:56,800 --> 01:24:59,000
had to do with somebody's ability to sit

1675
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,719
on the

1676
01:24:59,719 --> 01:25:02,320
board um or questions about that that

1677
01:25:02,320 --> 01:25:05,679
was early on I think maybe in maybe the

1678
01:25:05,679 --> 01:25:08,520
end of last year U beginning of this

1679
01:25:08,520 --> 01:25:15,390
year but nothing has arisen

1680
01:25:15,400 --> 01:25:18,119
since go ahead please I could just talk

1681
01:25:18,119 --> 01:25:21,000
on the outside Council again there's

1682
01:25:21,000 --> 01:25:25,600
money in the law department for outside

1683
01:25:25,600 --> 01:25:28,800
Council we bring in attorneys as needed

1684
01:25:28,800 --> 01:25:32,280
so if a scenario came up where there's a

1685
01:25:32,280 --> 01:25:35,639
conflicted position where city council

1686
01:25:35,639 --> 01:25:38,320
needed separate representation or

1687
01:25:38,320 --> 01:25:40,280
somebody on one of the boards or

1688
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:42,800
commission needed outside

1689
01:25:42,800 --> 01:25:45,239
representation there's money for that

1690
01:25:45,239 --> 01:25:48,520
and we try and get leverage stuff with

1691
01:25:48,520 --> 01:25:51,080
the membership with New York Conference

1692
01:25:51,080 --> 01:25:54,040
of Mayors provide

1693
01:25:54,040 --> 01:25:58,830
gu

1694
01:25:58,840 --> 01:26:02,800
and casw different things the AG's

1695
01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:05,000
office sometimes will assist local

1696
01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:07,440
government and things so that that money

1697
01:26:07,440 --> 01:26:11,880
that's in the Council budget now I

1698
01:26:11,880 --> 01:26:14,719
didn't use it this year I don't see

1699
01:26:14,719 --> 01:26:16,440
scenario we're going to use it in the

1700
01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:18,600
future like we haven't used it in the

1701
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,679
last hund and something years but if you

1702
01:26:21,679 --> 01:26:22,920
needed

1703
01:26:22,920 --> 01:26:26,080
something there is money in the budget

1704
01:26:26,080 --> 01:26:28,480
that's proposed and so if you want to

1705
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,400
modify that or look at

1706
01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,840
that that would be the appropriate way

1707
01:26:32,840 --> 01:26:34,760
to deal

1708
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:37,679
with please so I thought the reason why

1709
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:39,880
we create separate line because it' be

1710
01:26:39,880 --> 01:26:42,119
easier for accounting purposes if that's

1711
01:26:42,119 --> 01:26:45,470
not right I'd be open

1712
01:26:45,480 --> 01:26:47,719
to that was part of

1713
01:26:47,719 --> 01:26:51,520
it I can comment on that um Echo the

1714
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,520
mayor had to say I know this came I'm

1715
01:26:53,520 --> 01:26:55,080
going to Echo what the mayor had to say

1716
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,119
on this um I know this came up last year

1717
01:26:58,119 --> 01:27:02,480
um it as you know as you all know um the

1718
01:27:02,480 --> 01:27:04,520
city council hasn't used outside Council

1719
01:27:04,520 --> 01:27:07,840
this past year um cprb hasn't there's a

1720
01:27:07,840 --> 01:27:10,960
budget line obviously for um the law

1721
01:27:10,960 --> 01:27:13,880
department for outside Council and we

1722
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:17,560
use that outside Council whether it is

1723
01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,480
it's usually it's a no not usually it's

1724
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,400
a determination made by the law

1725
01:27:21,400 --> 01:27:22,760
department on what whether or not we

1726
01:27:22,760 --> 01:27:25,199
have the capacity or to to handle a

1727
01:27:25,199 --> 01:27:28,520
particular legal situation or uh whether

1728
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,280
there's some type of conflict uh in

1729
01:27:31,280 --> 01:27:34,199
which um it would be better best for to

1730
01:27:34,199 --> 01:27:36,000
be handled by outside

1731
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:40,560
Council that you know seldom happens uh

1732
01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:42,960
in terms of the conflict um but that's

1733
01:27:42,960 --> 01:27:45,600
not to say that it couldn't happen um

1734
01:27:45,600 --> 01:27:47,159
and we would obviously have to make the

1735
01:27:47,159 --> 01:27:48,199
professional

1736
01:27:48,199 --> 01:27:51,320
determination um to to say that we do

1737
01:27:51,320 --> 01:27:53,320
have a conflict and refer to outside

1738
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:56,639
Council but we provide um outside

1739
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:59,360
Council for you know situations

1740
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:02,199
involving other departments in the city

1741
01:28:02,199 --> 01:28:05,440
um where you know whether even if it's

1742
01:28:05,440 --> 01:28:07,199
not our insurance company but something

1743
01:28:07,199 --> 01:28:09,400
arises let's say hypothetically it's an

1744
01:28:09,400 --> 01:28:10,880
article 78 because of some

1745
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:13,840
administrative decision made by the

1746
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:17,400
Planning Commission made by um you know

1747
01:28:17,400 --> 01:28:20,360
the chief building inspector made by you

1748
01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:22,320
know some somebody else who has the

1749
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:24,520
authority to make an administrative

1750
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,639
decision um and at that point in time

1751
01:28:27,639 --> 01:28:29,199
the Law Department feels that it does

1752
01:28:29,199 --> 01:28:31,000
not have the capacity to handle that

1753
01:28:31,000 --> 01:28:32,960
particular matter we would refer to

1754
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,760
outside Council it wouldn't be covered

1755
01:28:34,760 --> 01:28:37,600
by our insurance um and in that

1756
01:28:37,600 --> 01:28:39,000
situation it comes out of the law

1757
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,119
Department's budget is outside Council

1758
01:28:41,119 --> 01:28:42,719
so for accounting purposes it's not

1759
01:28:42,719 --> 01:28:45,320
distinguishable between the Departments

1760
01:28:45,320 --> 01:28:49,470
it just comes out of the Law Department

1761
01:28:49,480 --> 01:28:57,199
M go ahead please and actually me or no no sorry you don't um yeah because

1762
01:28:57,199 --> 01:28:58,239
there's

1763
01:28:58,239 --> 01:29:00,360
$100,000 in the

1764
01:29:00,360 --> 01:29:02,960
20124 um proposed budget for outside

1765
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:05,239
legal services in the legal department

1766
01:29:05,239 --> 01:29:08,239
and you know it looks like that would

1767
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:10,000
cover

1768
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:13,159
um what we might

1769
01:29:13,159 --> 01:29:15,400
need in terms of what we had spent here

1770
01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:18,280
to date and that kind of thing so so I

1771
01:29:18,280 --> 01:29:21,280
have the Year date of course I do um but

1772
01:29:21,280 --> 01:29:23,280
there's like m multiple lines here so is

1773
01:29:23,280 --> 01:29:25,159
it just the fees for services is your is

1774
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:26,920
it your labor lawyer is it your

1775
01:29:26,920 --> 01:29:28,840
litigation support is it all those

1776
01:29:28,840 --> 01:29:31,960
things added up oh I was just looking at

1777
01:29:31,960 --> 01:29:34,440
outside Legal Services no I'm talking

1778
01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:36,920
about the year to date spread out she's

1779
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:38,800
looking more detailed breakdown the

1780
01:29:38,800 --> 01:29:41,119
budget soy

1781
01:29:41,119 --> 01:29:45,119
can that act everybody has this we use

1782
01:29:45,119 --> 01:29:48,159
outside Council for certain certain

1783
01:29:48,159 --> 01:29:52,000
things that we do right um you know we

1784
01:29:52,000 --> 01:29:55,760
use a bankruptcy attorney um outside

1785
01:29:55,760 --> 01:30:00,119
Council um Brian crer specifically to

1786
01:30:00,119 --> 01:30:04,280
handle matters where um you know usually

1787
01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,679
it happens with tax issues right

1788
01:30:06,679 --> 01:30:08,400
somebody files for

1789
01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:10,960
bankruptcy our outside Council Brian ker

1790
01:30:10,960 --> 01:30:13,440
interacts with my office and also the

1791
01:30:13,440 --> 01:30:15,159
receiver of taxes to make sure that

1792
01:30:15,159 --> 01:30:17,719
whomever is uh in bankruptcy is

1793
01:30:17,719 --> 01:30:20,639
following the bankruptcy plan and is um

1794
01:30:20,639 --> 01:30:22,920
which is payments you know on a Bas on a

1795
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,920
typical basis and he will then act um if

1796
01:30:25,920 --> 01:30:27,480
somebody doesn't follow their plan to

1797
01:30:27,480 --> 01:30:30,960
have a stay lifted or have a bank SE dis

1798
01:30:30,960 --> 01:30:32,840
um we try to use him strategically

1799
01:30:32,840 --> 01:30:35,239
obviously when we're about to do a

1800
01:30:35,239 --> 01:30:37,440
foreclosure um but he's still doing work

1801
01:30:37,440 --> 01:30:40,159
throughout the year um we use outside

1802
01:30:40,159 --> 01:30:42,760
Council dealing with certain labor

1803
01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:45,679
issues um you know could

1804
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:49,199
be could be a grievance it could be just

1805
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:51,400
um you know an issue with you know

1806
01:30:51,400 --> 01:30:53,560
police officer firefighter whomever it

1807
01:30:53,560 --> 01:30:55,800
may be we have to make a determination

1808
01:30:55,800 --> 01:30:57,880
to use outside Council we're not using

1809
01:30:57,880 --> 01:31:00,920
outside Council obviously willy-nilly um

1810
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:03,040
you know there are certain lines um for

1811
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,639
the labor attorney that we may use for

1812
01:31:05,639 --> 01:31:08,840
that but um you know determinations made

1813
01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,199
and I I consult my office consults with

1814
01:31:11,199 --> 01:31:14,199
Finance to determine um the best way to

1815
01:31:14,199 --> 01:31:16,000
pay a particular attorney based on what

1816
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:20,679
they're doing for the city um you know I

1817
01:31:20,679 --> 01:31:22,480
don't know exactly every single line

1818
01:31:22,480 --> 01:31:25,960
that it gets paid out of um you know it

1819
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,239
I would say it varies based on the

1820
01:31:27,239 --> 01:31:28,719
attorney and what they're actually doing

1821
01:31:28,719 --> 01:31:31,480
what service they're providing um as you

1822
01:31:31,480 --> 01:31:33,760
know you know we do our foreclosures in

1823
01:31:33,760 --> 01:31:37,199
house but um unlike a lot of other

1824
01:31:37,199 --> 01:31:38,880
municipalities but we still may use

1825
01:31:38,880 --> 01:31:40,520
outside Council as I mentioned when it

1826
01:31:40,520 --> 01:31:42,800
comes to foreclosures Brian ker because

1827
01:31:42,800 --> 01:31:45,040
he's working on the payc

1828
01:31:45,040 --> 01:31:47,960
part

1829
01:31:47,960 --> 01:31:50,760
okay any other question on

1830
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,780
this okay see then we move

1831
01:31:54,780 --> 01:31:56,080
[Applause]

1832
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,840
to a

1833
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:01,679
3614

1834
01:32:01,679 --> 01:32:05,080
44 street department

1835
01:32:05,080 --> 01:32:10,320
manager ask just increase this no I

1836
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:13,719
don't think the the thing is Right A50

1837
01:32:13,719 --> 01:32:20,679
oh sorry that's what you have on here 36 sorry yeah that's

1838
01:32:20,679 --> 01:32:23,320
sorry a

1839
01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,400
510100 street department manager we ask

1840
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:30,159
us to bring this up to 4% over the 2023

1841
01:32:30,159 --> 01:32:32,400
salary there's a narrative there and all

1842
01:32:32,400 --> 01:32:35,159
of us had an opportunity to listen to Mr

1843
01:32:35,159 --> 01:32:38,199
laan explaining how the work is being

1844
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:42,229
done

1845
01:32:42,239 --> 01:32:46,040
cly the street department manager from

1846
01:32:46,040 --> 01:32:48,880
street department manager and this

1847
01:32:48,880 --> 01:32:52,840
Salway supervisor is it the so removing

1848
01:32:52,840 --> 01:32:55,239
the ideas to remove the director of

1849
01:32:55,239 --> 01:32:56,960
Public Works key dist street department

1850
01:32:56,960 --> 01:33:00,480
manager position right and move that to

1851
01:33:00,480 --> 01:33:04,440
uh I think 104,000 so 52k in the street

1852
01:33:04,440 --> 01:33:06,639
Administration I think and then 52 in

1853
01:33:06,639 --> 01:33:13,159
the waist Administration right yeah but but when you first when it was first

1854
01:33:13,159 --> 01:33:15,520
not you first but let me just have a

1855
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:19,080
note when that it was first brought

1856
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:26,280
forward it was changing a title

1857
01:33:26,280 --> 01:33:29,639
right that's correct yes first they make

1858
01:33:29,639 --> 01:33:33,119
the same title for both and increasing

1859
01:33:33,119 --> 01:33:36,199
it from 45 to 52 for both because the

1860
01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:39,159
guy is going to be saving us about 80

1861
01:33:39,159 --> 01:33:42,639
grand wait wait the same guy being both

1862
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:45,530
JG is that correct

1863
01:33:45,530 --> 01:33:47,639
[Music]

1864
01:33:47,639 --> 01:33:51,159
that's so 52 from one line and 52 from

1865
01:33:51,159 --> 01:33:54,360
the other yes that's correct but when

1866
01:33:54,360 --> 01:33:56,600
the when we first were um given the

1867
01:33:56,600 --> 01:33:59,719
budget it was this title it was you they

1868
01:33:59,719 --> 01:34:01,320
changed the title to director of public

1869
01:34:01,320 --> 01:34:04,960
works right and the proposed salary at

1870
01:34:04,960 --> 01:34:07,719
half of the proposed salary was

1871
01:34:07,719 --> 01:34:11,320
4,968 not 52 well that's Paul came back

1872
01:34:11,320 --> 01:34:13,040
to increase it if you hear that thing

1873
01:34:13,040 --> 01:34:14,719
right

1874
01:34:14,719 --> 01:34:17,840
52 okay and and because there'll be a

1875
01:34:17,840 --> 01:34:20,080
savings of 88,000 it's going to be one

1876
01:34:20,080 --> 01:34:22,360
guy both the jobs

1877
01:34:22,360 --> 01:34:23,840
the director of Public Works and he

1878
01:34:23,840 --> 01:34:25,960
wants to change that to Street manager

1879
01:34:25,960 --> 01:34:28,639
also so we wouldn't have that

1880
01:34:28,639 --> 01:34:33,080
884 see that 88 339 we didn't it's not

1881
01:34:33,080 --> 01:34:37,320
being uh not being uh brought over a

1882
01:34:37,320 --> 01:34:38,600
budget in

1883
01:34:38,600 --> 01:34:41,000
2024 the

1884
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:44,480
88400 but that was the adopted um budget

1885
01:34:44,480 --> 01:34:48,960
in 2023 correct but then by creating the

1886
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:52,840
director of Public Works it was split

1887
01:34:52,840 --> 01:34:56,679
45968 each with yeah which was a 4

1888
01:34:56,679 --> 01:34:58,560
moving the individual back to street

1889
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:00,960
department manager but you're pumping it

1890
01:35:00,960 --> 01:35:02,560
by S almost

1891
01:35:02,560 --> 01:35:05,320
7,000 under each department follow fund

1892
01:35:05,320 --> 01:35:07,830
request

1893
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:10,960
yeah so what is the

1894
01:35:10,960 --> 01:35:14,440
additional duties oh I'm sorry page

1895
01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:20,390
33 addition take over

1896
01:35:20,400 --> 01:35:22,320
restriction

1897
01:35:22,320 --> 01:35:24,320
is this civil service or is this going

1898
01:35:24,320 --> 01:35:26,639
to be

1899
01:35:26,639 --> 01:35:29,239
manag street street department manager a

1900
01:35:29,239 --> 01:35:35,430
manag position here it

1901
01:35:35,440 --> 01:35:38,760
is so what's the increase like

1902
01:35:38,760 --> 01:35:41,520
14%

1903
01:35:41,520 --> 01:35:49,870
okay

1904
01:35:49,880 --> 01:35:56,070
88,000 any other question question on

1905
01:35:56,080 --> 01:35:59,239
this find the other one no did not but I

1906
01:35:59,239 --> 01:36:01,000
found waste but I just didn't find that

1907
01:36:01,000 --> 01:36:04,400
first 8160 100 it was the director of

1908
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:05,560
Public

1909
01:36:05,560 --> 01:36:08,080
Works they Chang it to Street manager

1910
01:36:08,080 --> 01:36:10,480
and they gone from 45 yeah they're not

1911
01:36:10,480 --> 01:36:12,800
doing 68 to 52,000 they're not filling

1912
01:36:12,800 --> 01:36:15,119
director solid waste and now they're not

1913
01:36:15,119 --> 01:36:17,520
doing director of Sol taking out the

1914
01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:23,470
88,000 yep I got it I see it

1915
01:36:23,480 --> 01:36:26,480
so so actually his Department went down

1916
01:36:26,480 --> 01:36:29,440
overall the overall

1917
01:36:29,440 --> 01:36:34,000
total budget was down I believe

1918
01:36:34,000 --> 01:36:38,320
1.69% but that's what I wrot down but so

1919
01:36:38,320 --> 01:36:39,639
I mean I don't have the job descriptions

1920
01:36:39,639 --> 01:36:41,119
in front of me

1921
01:36:41,119 --> 01:36:43,840
but I guess I'm questioning how one

1922
01:36:43,840 --> 01:36:50,270
person can do two full-time

1923
01:36:50,280 --> 01:36:53,470
jobs

1924
01:36:53,480 --> 01:36:57,760
manage it well manage it it's going to

1925
01:36:57,760 --> 01:37:00,110
take ogs and waste

1926
01:37:00,110 --> 01:37:02,000
[Music]

1927
01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,080
in scheduling following

1928
01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,400
up Paul beles that it can be

1929
01:37:08,400 --> 01:37:12,440
done if you want him in here get them in

1930
01:37:12,440 --> 01:37:15,639
to give you a more detailed explanation

1931
01:37:15,639 --> 01:37:18,310
the

1932
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,800
work because I I mean I imagine once you

1933
01:37:20,800 --> 01:37:22,840
get to this level it is a lot of work so

1934
01:37:22,840 --> 01:37:24,800
I just like really wondering how that

1935
01:37:24,800 --> 01:37:30,870
could happen it's a

1936
01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:36,679
lotn waste water and water you know City

1937
01:37:36,679 --> 01:37:38,639
I don't know hard hundreds of thousands

1938
01:37:38,639 --> 01:37:41,639
of dollars a year he

1939
01:37:41,639 --> 01:37:45,280
did he's got confidence in this guy

1940
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:49,790
yeah

1941
01:37:49,800 --> 01:37:52,320
M okay my

1942
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,679
question we canbe we can just send the

1943
01:37:55,679 --> 01:37:59,080
email so I mean we I don't know we're at

1944
01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:00,760
I guess we're at the point where're like

1945
01:38:00,760 --> 01:38:02,760
making decisions tonight but that's my

1946
01:38:02,760 --> 01:38:04,480
that would be my

1947
01:38:04,480 --> 01:38:07,840
question all right any other question on

1948
01:38:07,840 --> 01:38:09,560
this Mr far you going to make the the

1949
01:38:09,560 --> 01:38:12,159
adjustment zero out the director of

1950
01:38:12,159 --> 01:38:17,719
Public Works and move that into street department yeah once we decide

1951
01:38:17,719 --> 01:38:20,679
whatever we decide to move forward

1952
01:38:20,679 --> 01:38:23,189
either way

1953
01:38:23,199 --> 01:38:25,280
okay any other question on this the next

1954
01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:29,000
item is um a 5132

1955
01:38:29,000 --> 01:38:31,719
100 remove fleet

1956
01:38:31,719 --> 01:38:34,239
manager and the note there is a system

1957
01:38:34,239 --> 01:38:36,239
is doing a lot of work doing budget

1958
01:38:36,239 --> 01:38:38,880
hearing all work will be

1959
01:38:38,880 --> 01:38:43,430
completed by the

1960
01:38:43,440 --> 01:38:50,109
assistant open for question on

1961
01:38:50,119 --> 01:38:51,800
this

1962
01:38:51,800 --> 01:39:00,270
I my note said that they're short staff

1963
01:39:00,280 --> 01:39:05,639
but you want to get rid of the fleet

1964
01:39:05,639 --> 01:39:10,199
manager it's not full it's not currently oh it's not there's

1965
01:39:10,199 --> 01:39:12,520
no one in that

1966
01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:17,470
position

1967
01:39:17,480 --> 01:39:20,400
okay so was Mr lefon recommending

1968
01:39:20,400 --> 01:39:23,880
getting rid of the finish yes yes

1969
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:26,480
okay no he didn't recommend get rid of

1970
01:39:26,480 --> 01:39:28,320
position he recommended to add the

1971
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:30,360
position back this year we didn't have

1972
01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,760
it last year yeah that's I was going to

1973
01:39:32,760 --> 01:39:36,040
say we had it at one time um then we

1974
01:39:36,040 --> 01:39:39,560
didn't have it and did you remember

1975
01:39:39,560 --> 01:39:42,040
circumstances was this the night guy I

1976
01:39:42,040 --> 01:39:44,119
just no that's a different oh okay I

1977
01:39:44,119 --> 01:39:46,400
just remember that when he was he said

1978
01:39:46,400 --> 01:39:47,800
that this other person could do the job

1979
01:39:47,800 --> 01:39:51,880
but if you want to Happ person to pass

1980
01:39:51,880 --> 01:39:54,360
the test MH so he went back to be

1981
01:39:54,360 --> 01:39:56,520
assistant manager so he's been doing the

1982
01:39:56,520 --> 01:39:59,840
assistant management job now Paul says

1983
01:39:59,840 --> 01:40:02,119
he wants to bring somebody back in to

1984
01:40:02,119 --> 01:40:05,840
help now and you just sa ,000 but we in

1985
01:40:05,840 --> 01:40:08,040
our discussions I mean we can go back

1986
01:40:08,040 --> 01:40:09,320
and look he did say that the other

1987
01:40:09,320 --> 01:40:11,840
person was was handling all the job so

1988
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:14,159
you got a great

1989
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:17,880
kid working okay all

1990
01:40:17,880 --> 01:40:21,159
right yeah he did mention that he asking

1991
01:40:21,159 --> 01:40:24,239
to fill this position into 2024 but at

1992
01:40:24,239 --> 01:40:26,639
the same time he said the

1993
01:40:26,639 --> 01:40:28,880
assistant the assistant is doing all the

1994
01:40:28,880 --> 01:40:32,709
work

1995
01:40:32,719 --> 01:40:37,950
needed I'm

1996
01:40:37,960 --> 01:40:39,960
sorry that's the

1997
01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:43,350
one thank

1998
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:45,760
you any other question of

1999
01:40:45,760 --> 01:40:51,960
this if not we'll move to a 5132 d 12

2000
01:40:51,960 --> 01:40:55,960
121 discuss the motor equipment operator

2001
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:59,360
mechanic one and there are some notes

2002
01:40:59,360 --> 01:41:01,239
there with some concern in terms of

2003
01:41:01,239 --> 01:41:03,560
liability and having this person work is

2004
01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:09,109
solo Shi

2005
01:41:09,119 --> 01:41:11,679
by so as you know I brought that because

2006
01:41:11,679 --> 01:41:13,679
I I'm still concerned that a person

2007
01:41:13,679 --> 01:41:16,840
would be in a garage by themselves all

2008
01:41:16,840 --> 01:41:18,639
night in you know in the event that

2009
01:41:18,639 --> 01:41:21,080
something happened so um I looked into

2010
01:41:21,080 --> 01:41:26,000
and there's no ocean requirement that we cannot do that but again I have

2011
01:41:26,000 --> 01:41:27,159
concerns for the safety of the

2012
01:41:27,159 --> 01:41:29,840
individual and for um the any liability

2013
01:41:29,840 --> 01:41:31,520
on the part of the city should something

2014
01:41:31,520 --> 01:41:34,480
happen so if if we're going to do it

2015
01:41:34,480 --> 01:41:36,440
then I I really would think that we

2016
01:41:36,440 --> 01:41:39,440
would want to um establish a work alone

2017
01:41:39,440 --> 01:41:41,880
policy for when people are in the

2018
01:41:41,880 --> 01:41:43,560
situation so there's some protocols put

2019
01:41:43,560 --> 01:41:45,760
in place for somebody who works alone

2020
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:47,239
and should something happen there's ways

2021
01:41:47,239 --> 01:41:49,239
to trigger things for someone to know

2022
01:41:49,239 --> 01:41:52,840
that something's happened so um and if

2023
01:41:52,840 --> 01:41:54,480
this is the same position also that

2024
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:56,440
they're they're getting this lift for

2025
01:41:56,440 --> 01:41:58,840
this portable lift that even makes me

2026
01:41:58,840 --> 01:42:01,480
more concerned but um because you know

2027
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:04,199
things happen in garages so um I

2028
01:42:04,199 --> 01:42:06,639
understand our need for it however I

2029
01:42:06,639 --> 01:42:08,280
just want to make sure that we have

2030
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:09,800
systems in place of these person's

2031
01:42:09,800 --> 01:42:12,840
individually in the garage at Night by

2032
01:42:12,840 --> 01:42:15,920
themselves um that we have something

2033
01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:18,159
that in place and I mean it's not up to

2034
01:42:18,159 --> 01:42:21,679
me to decide um Staffing but even having

2035
01:42:21,679 --> 01:42:23,400
somebody else rotate in would make me

2036
01:42:23,400 --> 01:42:24,880
more comfortable but that's that's not

2037
01:42:24,880 --> 01:42:27,239
my call but I just wanted to express my

2038
01:42:27,239 --> 01:42:31,229
concern around

2039
01:42:31,239 --> 01:42:36,830
that any other

2040
01:42:36,840 --> 01:42:40,360
question see now we'll move on to

2041
01:42:40,360 --> 01:42:43,430
a71

2042
01:42:43,440 --> 01:42:46,960
10-100 direct of Parts the ask is to

2043
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:55,390
increase that to 4% over the 2023 salary

2044
01:42:55,400 --> 01:43:00,639
Mr the director of parks right now makes

2045
01:43:00,639 --> 01:43:02,800
80,000 this is

2046
01:43:02,800 --> 01:43:07,920
4% 83 let me see

2047
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:14,669
87 was for 728 but on the for

2048
01:43:14,679 --> 01:43:19,679
8 so the 832 is the 4% 4%

2049
01:43:19,679 --> 01:43:22,119
correct

2050
01:43:22,119 --> 01:43:28,709
80,000 even yes that's the

2051
01:43:28,719 --> 01:43:31,480
salary well it's

2052
01:43:31,480 --> 01:43:33,679
okay so it just didn't show when you

2053
01:43:33,679 --> 01:43:35,800
hired him you brought him up to 80,000

2054
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,440
well again

2055
01:43:37,440 --> 01:43:40,960
because the position was vacant rather

2056
01:43:40,960 --> 01:43:44,119
than use the recruitment line we used

2057
01:43:44,119 --> 01:43:46,800
money that was within the original

2058
01:43:46,800 --> 01:43:49,040
appropriation but that was the salary

2059
01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:51,239
that he wanted to be hired

2060
01:43:51,239 --> 01:43:53,560
so I could have taken it out of the

2061
01:43:53,560 --> 01:43:56,360
recruitment line and it just it makes

2062
01:43:56,360 --> 01:43:58,679
the accounting more complicated was just

2063
01:43:58,679 --> 01:44:00,239
take it out of that line pay a little

2064
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:03,199
bit more that's what the budget reflects

2065
01:44:03,199 --> 01:44:04,920
I've submitted to you oh yeah well

2066
01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:06,159
there's no way to know it because it

2067
01:44:06,159 --> 01:44:08,199
looks like he was making 72 and then

2068
01:44:08,199 --> 01:44:10,639
went up to like like $10,000 that's what

2069
01:44:10,639 --> 01:44:16,880
it appears yeah that makesense but it's 4% CU he's currently making 82

2070
01:44:16,880 --> 01:44:19,599
currently making 80 currently making 80

2071
01:44:19,599 --> 01:44:21,760
okay

2072
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:24,239
any other discussion on

2073
01:44:24,239 --> 01:44:30,030
this the next is a 8161

2074
01:44:30,040 --> 01:44:33,719
D100 why the 8 plus% increase for the

2075
01:44:33,719 --> 01:44:35,480
assistant

2076
01:44:35,480 --> 01:44:39,000
solid uh any CSA

2077
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:43,199
supervising supervising 1037 employees

2078
01:44:43,199 --> 01:44:48,159
has to make $150 a week more so uh uh

2079
01:44:48,159 --> 01:44:50,440
because of the big raises that 1037 got

2080
01:44:50,440 --> 01:44:53,880
uh receed they got to make $150 a week

2081
01:44:53,880 --> 01:44:58,280
more than that so that $8 $150 a week is

2082
01:44:58,280 --> 01:45:01,560
7,821 by itself so that's why we've got

2083
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,280
the big increase

2084
01:45:04,280 --> 01:45:11,229
okay question on

2085
01:45:11,239 --> 01:45:17,520
this now we know contractual contractual

2086
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,599
cor all right moving on the next one is

2087
01:45:20,599 --> 01:45:21,599
a

2088
01:45:21,599 --> 01:45:23,840
9089

2089
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:27,679
d840 employee drug test ask to ruce by

2090
01:45:27,679 --> 01:45:32,360
10,000 the date is

2091
01:45:32,360 --> 01:45:35,719
3,900 the actual for

2092
01:45:35,719 --> 01:45:38,679
2967 for 2021 and

2093
01:45:38,679 --> 01:45:43,149
4,45 for

2094
01:45:43,159 --> 01:45:46,560
2022 open for

2095
01:45:46,560 --> 01:45:49,080
discussion go ahead please so I don't I

2096
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:50,199
don't know if the numbers necessarily

2097
01:45:50,199 --> 01:45:52,119
I'm just

2098
01:45:52,119 --> 01:45:55,880
wondering are we not testing

2099
01:45:55,880 --> 01:45:59,199
people because I mean why why we we're

2100
01:45:59,199 --> 01:46:02,599
not seeing this line

2101
01:46:02,599 --> 01:46:06,719
spent uh someone was not testing some

2102
01:46:06,719 --> 01:46:09,599
was co uh we're still dealing with some

2103
01:46:09,599 --> 01:46:13,199
of the issues with the changes in the

2104
01:46:13,199 --> 01:46:15,800
marijuana

2105
01:46:15,800 --> 01:46:19,880
regulations and there is not I shouldn't

2106
01:46:19,880 --> 01:46:24,550
say

2107
01:46:24,560 --> 01:46:28,239
testing technology is Shifting where

2108
01:46:28,239 --> 01:46:31,199
today some of the tests you can't

2109
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:35,719
tell uh how recent the use of marijuana

2110
01:46:35,719 --> 01:46:40,000
has been can show for 30 days but really

2111
01:46:40,000 --> 01:46:42,440
then individual wouldn't be repaired

2112
01:46:42,440 --> 01:46:45,119
there are some tests that are supposedly

2113
01:46:45,119 --> 01:46:49,239
coming on the market that would show

2114
01:46:49,239 --> 01:46:53,719
the uh uh length of time from using it

2115
01:46:53,719 --> 01:47:00,320
to the test for the level open par so on

2116
01:47:00,320 --> 01:47:03,159
that tell me if it was C

2117
01:47:03,159 --> 01:47:05,679
$5,000 we could live within that but I

2118
01:47:05,679 --> 01:47:07,880
would still want some

2119
01:47:07,880 --> 01:47:11,159
money uh going forward for the next year

2120
01:47:11,159 --> 01:47:14,599
to be able to uh just deal with the

2121
01:47:14,599 --> 01:47:16,400
realities of the workforce and where we

2122
01:47:16,400 --> 01:47:19,000
have to test whether it's new hiring or

2123
01:47:19,000 --> 01:47:22,510
on the job incidents

2124
01:47:22,520 --> 01:47:26,639
so you want to keep it at what 10 if we

2125
01:47:26,639 --> 01:47:29,199
take if you want to take 5,000 out of it

2126
01:47:29,199 --> 01:47:31,639
like what was the original appropriation

2127
01:47:31,639 --> 01:47:34,960
15,000 15 15 so yeah if it stays at

2128
01:47:34,960 --> 01:47:38,159
10 then revisit it again in a year to

2129
01:47:38,159 --> 01:47:40,920
see where we are so reduce it to 10 not

2130
01:47:40,920 --> 01:47:45,119
by 10 um and just who who does this

2131
01:47:45,119 --> 01:47:49,679
apply to like who gets drug tested Rand

2132
01:47:49,679 --> 01:47:52,239
there's Rand engine testing and then

2133
01:47:52,239 --> 01:47:55,719
there's new hires who test different

2134
01:47:55,719 --> 01:47:59,199
levels cuz I also saw drug testing in

2135
01:47:59,199 --> 01:48:02,159
the sewer department so those employees

2136
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:04,239
get there's a separate part of money for

2137
01:48:04,239 --> 01:48:05,480
their drug

2138
01:48:05,480 --> 01:48:07,080
testing

2139
01:48:07,080 --> 01:48:11,840
CD CD for the water sewer funds are

2140
01:48:11,840 --> 01:48:14,679
different funds yes so this is in voice

2141
01:48:14,679 --> 01:48:18,639
other than that correct in this SL be

2142
01:48:18,639 --> 01:48:27,229
all general f

2143
01:48:27,239 --> 01:48:31,320
okay so are we okay to keep that

2144
01:48:31,320 --> 01:48:34,430
10,000

2145
01:48:34,440 --> 01:48:39,040
okay next item is um G 8120

2146
01:48:39,040 --> 01:48:44,159
d121 CCTV operator I think this was typo

2147
01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:46,000
I think we receive oh

2148
01:48:46,000 --> 01:48:52,620
yeah did receive a a copy

2149
01:48:52,630 --> 01:48:56,310
[Music]

2150
01:48:56,320 --> 01:49:00,149
adjusted

2151
01:49:00,159 --> 01:49:07,080
sorry he went from 5846 2023 and 659 68

2152
01:49:07,080 --> 01:49:11,199
2024 that is due uh uh to the $3 an hour

2153
01:49:11,199 --> 01:49:14,080
range so $3 an hour time 40 hours is

2154
01:49:14,080 --> 01:49:19,119
$120 a week time 52.4 it's

2155
01:49:19,119 --> 01:49:24,320
$625 cense so 58 and uh 58 and 62 gives

2156
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,560
you 64,0

2157
01:49:26,560 --> 01:49:29,880
67280 and then a 224 you get and I have

2158
01:49:29,880 --> 01:49:35,000
to add 2% to that contract to 65 968

2159
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:38,239
okay okay okay ready if you look at the

2160
01:49:38,239 --> 01:49:41,719
diagram thank you you will see it but I

2161
01:49:41,719 --> 01:49:44,480
just he gave us a print out too thank

2162
01:49:44,480 --> 01:49:47,520
you cuz we need more

2163
01:49:47,520 --> 01:49:50,480
people let skip this out go over to the

2164
01:49:50,480 --> 01:49:53,239
next page and then come

2165
01:49:53,239 --> 01:49:55,679
back I think we did address this one

2166
01:49:55,679 --> 01:49:58,840
here 8 13

2167
01:49:58,840 --> 01:50:02,000
55 that was for the

2168
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,719
realer no this is a yes we did no that's

2169
01:50:05,719 --> 01:50:07,280
for the City Assessor next one it's the

2170
01:50:07,280 --> 01:50:10,800
next one 1356 404 Miss

2171
01:50:10,800 --> 01:50:12,520
mroy um

2172
01:50:12,520 --> 01:50:15,199
recommended right so we did change in an

2173
01:50:15,199 --> 01:50:17,440
increase let me go back to that page if

2174
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:20,159
you I think it was because the person is

2175
01:50:20,159 --> 01:50:21,760
supervising somebody that's making more

2176
01:50:21,760 --> 01:50:23,800
money or something yes but they gave us

2177
01:50:23,800 --> 01:50:25,599
something that they increased it that

2178
01:50:25,599 --> 01:50:27,480
was already done right well they

2179
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:29,840
increased it to 60,000 that's not

2180
01:50:29,840 --> 01:50:31,280
increased

2181
01:50:31,280 --> 01:50:35,310
in

2182
01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:41,360
1356 okay the 13551 100 we did Missy She

2183
01:50:41,360 --> 01:50:43,119
also asked about the real property

2184
01:50:43,119 --> 01:50:45,720
analyst

2185
01:50:45,730 --> 01:50:49,030
[Applause]

2186
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:51,320
right

2187
01:50:51,320 --> 01:50:53,000
56

2188
01:50:53,000 --> 01:50:55,520
I'm oh it's page

2189
01:50:55,520 --> 01:50:58,079
five I couldn't remember if it was the

2190
01:50:58,079 --> 01:51:00,280
appraiser or the analyst I didn't write

2191
01:51:00,280 --> 01:51:03,199
that down uh 54,000

2192
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:06,159
analy is that oh yeah because you can

2193
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:09,679
see right no so she asked an increase

2194
01:51:09,679 --> 01:51:14,239
for uh uh real property analyst from 537

2195
01:51:14,239 --> 01:51:15,599
56 to

2196
01:51:15,599 --> 01:51:18,000
54,000 oh so it's like a couple hundred

2197
01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:21,440
bucks yeah 200

2198
01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:23,560
what was what was he ask from what was

2199
01:51:23,560 --> 01:51:26,239
he ask from the department head 54 54 as

2200
01:51:26,239 --> 01:51:27,719
opposed to

2201
01:51:27,719 --> 01:51:31,400
53756 is it even is it even

2202
01:51:31,400 --> 01:51:33,400
54

2203
01:51:33,400 --> 01:51:38,790
yeah was like

2204
01:51:38,800 --> 01:51:44,320
20044 more I guess I must be wrong that was she I thought it was more the

2205
01:51:44,320 --> 01:51:46,400
person was supervising somebody but no

2206
01:51:46,400 --> 01:51:48,880
she we didn't know what the figure was

2207
01:51:48,880 --> 01:51:51,480
we had that know I I'm writing it down

2208
01:51:51,480 --> 01:51:53,679
but that's only a couple hundred

2209
01:51:53,679 --> 01:51:56,639
bucks can anybody else remember I I

2210
01:51:56,639 --> 01:51:59,639
thought I don't know for some reason if

2211
01:51:59,639 --> 01:52:02,159
it's if if if it's only a couple hundred

2212
01:52:02,159 --> 01:52:03,520
bucks then it's not going to bring them

2213
01:52:03,520 --> 01:52:05,719
above because my understanding if I

2214
01:52:05,719 --> 01:52:08,119
remember correctly is that she was um

2215
01:52:08,119 --> 01:52:10,360
supervising the real property appraiser

2216
01:52:10,360 --> 01:52:12,760
I believe it's the clerk oh supervising

2217
01:52:12,760 --> 01:52:15,880
the clerk clerk makes way less than that

2218
01:52:15,880 --> 01:52:18,280
yeah she just started year so that

2219
01:52:18,280 --> 01:52:21,360
doesn't work out then well anyway so

2220
01:52:21,360 --> 01:52:25,159
Molly's s uh the assessor is suggesting

2221
01:52:25,159 --> 01:52:27,800
54 Anthony

2222
01:52:27,800 --> 01:52:31,239
or original request was 54 everyone

2223
01:52:31,239 --> 01:52:34,520
every everyone should have that um yes

2224
01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:35,840
original

2225
01:52:35,840 --> 01:52:39,400
request oh sorry it's yeah we have it

2226
01:52:39,400 --> 01:52:44,669
but there a lot

2227
01:52:44,679 --> 01:52:47,840
of later well

2228
01:52:47,840 --> 01:52:50,159
before okay yep and then when you gave

2229
01:52:50,159 --> 01:52:52,920
it today was the 54

2230
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:57,199
corre actually the next one that I had

2231
01:52:57,199 --> 01:53:01,320
1430 14

2232
01:53:01,320 --> 01:53:05,669
um let's let's

2233
01:53:05,679 --> 01:53:09,880
go 1356 404 the assessment Board

2234
01:53:09,880 --> 01:53:14,199
review oh that I think we had discussion

2235
01:53:14,199 --> 01:53:18,280
with um the assessor in regards to this

2236
01:53:18,280 --> 01:53:20,480
board attendance

2237
01:53:20,480 --> 01:53:22,920
and M is not attending all the meetings

2238
01:53:22,920 --> 01:53:24,280
and

2239
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:27,159
it's yes that was the one yeah yeah yeah

2240
01:53:27,159 --> 01:53:29,000
bottleneck on the um the rest of the

2241
01:53:29,000 --> 01:53:30,960
members it was 16 so she was going to

2242
01:53:30,960 --> 01:53:32,599
come back to us with a recommendation

2243
01:53:32,599 --> 01:53:35,239
how we Chang the ordinance or

2244
01:53:35,239 --> 01:53:37,400
legislation to address these concerns

2245
01:53:37,400 --> 01:53:40,119
and I all us with that to kind of work

2246
01:53:40,119 --> 01:53:41,880
with her to address those concerns

2247
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:44,440
because this is not the first time uh

2248
01:53:44,440 --> 01:53:47,639
the board is finding some difficulties

2249
01:53:47,639 --> 01:53:48,760
in your

2250
01:53:48,760 --> 01:53:51,480
function Mr mudar go ahead

2251
01:53:51,480 --> 01:53:53,719
please um so a couple things I thought

2252
01:53:53,719 --> 01:53:55,360
that Mr Cen said that that was something

2253
01:53:55,360 --> 01:53:58,000
that we' have to look at the the c c

2254
01:53:58,000 --> 01:54:01,119
about in terms of

2255
01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:05,159
changing yes um this it would be outside

2256
01:54:05,159 --> 01:54:07,079
of the budget process the budget is

2257
01:54:07,079 --> 01:54:10,800
setting the numbers um you'd have to go

2258
01:54:10,800 --> 01:54:13,480
and look at the I don't actually I don't

2259
01:54:13,480 --> 01:54:16,360
believe that it's set in the um code I

2260
01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:18,239
believe it was approved by resolution

2261
01:54:18,239 --> 01:54:21,119
okay um so the council could obviously

2262
01:54:21,119 --> 01:54:24,719
Set uh the fees that are paid to um the

2263
01:54:24,719 --> 01:54:26,119
people on the important assessment

2264
01:54:26,119 --> 01:54:30,079
review by resolution so

2265
01:54:30,079 --> 01:54:33,320
maybe we leave it the way it is here and

2266
01:54:33,320 --> 01:54:36,119
then moving forward into the

2267
01:54:36,119 --> 01:54:38,920
year you know get that

2268
01:54:38,920 --> 01:54:42,880
analysis and think about it or

2269
01:54:42,880 --> 01:54:45,599
what yes I think that was discussed we

2270
01:54:45,599 --> 01:54:47,599
have the call public

2271
01:54:47,599 --> 01:54:50,599
here I I can talk in this mroy about it

2272
01:54:50,599 --> 01:54:52,320
she and I discussed it quite some time

2273
01:54:52,320 --> 01:54:55,639
ago um and I don't know how many hours

2274
01:54:55,639 --> 01:54:58,520
obviously that they put in um I imagine

2275
01:54:58,520 --> 01:55:01,199
that you know she would have a better

2276
01:55:01,199 --> 01:55:02,239
sense and the council would have a

2277
01:55:02,239 --> 01:55:03,320
better sense May would have a better

2278
01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:05,800
sense of whether or not if you went to

2279
01:55:05,800 --> 01:55:07,199
you know some other type of payment

2280
01:55:07,199 --> 01:55:10,560
arrangement let's say hourly um if the

2281
01:55:10,560 --> 01:55:14,639
$16,000 would um cover the hours that

2282
01:55:14,639 --> 01:55:16,400
they put in because I don't know those

2283
01:55:16,400 --> 01:55:20,639
hours I I'm the the the concern I think

2284
01:55:20,639 --> 01:55:23,599
that she had was that there was actually

2285
01:55:23,599 --> 01:55:25,679
a particular person who actually didn't

2286
01:55:25,679 --> 01:55:27,360
show up for anything and was still

2287
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,599
getting the same no they showed up for

2288
01:55:30,599 --> 01:55:32,079
if you don't mind they showed up for one

2289
01:55:32,079 --> 01:55:34,280
day they didn't show up for the day that

2290
01:55:34,280 --> 01:55:35,560
they were reviewing and then they showed

2291
01:55:35,560 --> 01:55:37,760
up for deliberation but still got the

2292
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:39,599
full salary of everyone who had been

2293
01:55:39,599 --> 01:55:41,880
there the entire time not salary but

2294
01:55:41,880 --> 01:55:44,520
stien that's what she yeah that would be

2295
01:55:44,520 --> 01:55:46,480
outside same that would be outside of

2296
01:55:46,480 --> 01:55:48,599
the budget process that's something else

2297
01:55:48,599 --> 01:55:50,440
that the council

2298
01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:54,400
address I'm happy to just move on yeah we did ask we did ask for

2299
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:56,119
recommendation to come back to us email

2300
01:55:56,119 --> 01:55:57,840
us get us involved let's see what the

2301
01:55:57,840 --> 01:56:00,079
narrative is to to move it forward and

2302
01:56:00,079 --> 01:56:02,639
to make necessary changes so that we can

2303
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:06,000
better sort the the assessment office

2304
01:56:06,000 --> 01:56:08,199
but I do have one thing because the

2305
01:56:08,199 --> 01:56:10,400
document that was given to us today

2306
01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:14,199
there's zero on this for the

2307
01:56:14,199 --> 01:56:17,520
bar the bar is 16,000 no on this

2308
01:56:17,520 --> 01:56:19,079
document we got today there's no nothing

2309
01:56:19,079 --> 01:56:21,440
in there

2310
01:56:21,440 --> 01:56:27,229
with the changes that we

2311
01:56:27,239 --> 01:56:29,920
request it's right at the bottom for

2312
01:56:29,920 --> 01:56:32,360
service what of assessment revie talking

2313
01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:33,520
about right

2314
01:56:33,520 --> 01:56:37,270
now her she

2315
01:56:37,280 --> 01:56:39,239
probably

2316
01:56:39,239 --> 01:56:40,920
Sheed

2317
01:56:40,920 --> 01:56:48,520
okay that was from her oh okay so m i mean the uh the Assessor's

2318
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,400
Office yes okay thank

2319
01:56:51,400 --> 01:56:55,040
you all right so we'll follow that make

2320
01:56:55,040 --> 01:56:58,350
sure we address

2321
01:56:58,360 --> 01:57:01,239
that I got it but we're leaving it as it

2322
01:57:01,239 --> 01:57:02,840
is currently in terms of in the budget

2323
01:57:02,840 --> 01:57:06,760
this the amount okay thank you and then

2324
01:57:06,760 --> 01:57:10,960
the next one is a430 D100 payroll

2325
01:57:10,960 --> 01:57:13,679
manager raise salary to 60,000 from

2326
01:57:13,679 --> 01:57:17,159
56,000 to 61 so slightly higher than the

2327
01:57:17,159 --> 01:57:19,920
personal benefit clar that was that the

2328
01:57:19,920 --> 01:57:22,990
position

2329
01:57:23,000 --> 01:57:25,840
supervised that was something that um M

2330
01:57:25,840 --> 01:57:29,639
Ali was recommending I

2331
01:57:29,639 --> 01:57:32,320
believe open for question oh that was U

2332
01:57:32,320 --> 01:57:36,360
Miss Miss uh yeah yeah

2333
01:57:36,360 --> 01:57:38,840
okay oh okay because this is the one

2334
01:57:38,840 --> 01:57:40,639
where the person is supervising somebody

2335
01:57:40,639 --> 01:57:44,320
who makes more slightly more money

2336
01:57:44,320 --> 01:57:47,280
than I would have support

2337
01:57:47,280 --> 01:57:50,560
that what's that I would support

2338
01:57:50,560 --> 01:57:54,639
okay is this person CA she's manager the

2339
01:57:54,639 --> 01:57:58,069
other

2340
01:57:58,079 --> 01:58:00,960
man management

2341
01:58:00,960 --> 01:58:07,520
so make so instead of 56 265 it would be

2342
01:58:07,520 --> 01:58:11,400
37 35 60 the

2343
01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,840
additional the additional

2344
01:58:13,840 --> 01:58:17,520
yeah it's the payroll manager

2345
01:58:17,520 --> 01:58:22,270
y all right

2346
01:58:22,280 --> 01:58:24,840
are we good with that okay the next one

2347
01:58:24,840 --> 01:58:27,320
is a441

2348
01:58:27,320 --> 01:58:31,400
D100 how much to add an ipf 3 for part

2349
01:58:31,400 --> 01:58:33,719
time that's

2350
01:58:33,719 --> 01:58:35,760
40,3 step

2351
01:58:35,760 --> 01:58:39,159
one 40,000 let me just see what my note

2352
01:58:39,159 --> 01:58:43,239
was and why I st said that oh

2353
01:58:43,239 --> 01:58:48,310
so Mr Wen must have suggested

2354
01:58:48,320 --> 01:58:52,639
that he had a somebody I wrote need ips3

2355
01:58:52,639 --> 01:58:57,560
he had up to better position in the

2356
01:58:57,560 --> 01:59:00,800
city oh she went to utilities that way

2357
01:59:00,800 --> 01:59:04,040
they no no she went to C oh oh that's

2358
01:59:04,040 --> 01:59:07,960
right so in that particular instance how

2359
01:59:07,960 --> 01:59:11,920
is that kind of so there's no

2360
01:59:11,920 --> 01:59:14,320
administrative support in that office

2361
01:59:14,320 --> 01:59:17,280
yeah they have IPS for uh what's her

2362
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,000
name the person

2363
01:59:20,000 --> 01:59:22,840
work and uh you see they also have an

2364
01:59:22,840 --> 01:59:30,990
IPS uh IPS specials three in there

2365
01:59:31,000 --> 01:59:33,599
1440 yeah it's the same

2366
01:59:33,599 --> 01:59:36,880
thing okay then I'll take away my I'll

2367
01:59:36,880 --> 01:59:39,159
take away my

2368
01:59:39,159 --> 01:59:42,400
suggestion so they're both

2369
01:59:42,400 --> 01:59:46,239
okay so you taking it off I can I'm okay

2370
01:59:46,239 --> 01:59:47,320
taking it off yeah there are two

2371
01:59:47,320 --> 01:59:49,480
position there one is three and one is a

2372
01:59:49,480 --> 01:59:52,040
for no

2373
01:59:52,040 --> 01:59:54,119
ask and then the other one we already

2374
01:59:54,119 --> 01:59:56,800
discussed but that was the the confusion

2375
01:59:56,800 --> 01:59:58,840
that we had if you don't mind if I keep

2376
01:59:58,840 --> 02:00:01,119
going yeah yeah yeah so the other one

2377
02:00:01,119 --> 02:00:03,560
was changing it from mayor recruitment

2378
02:00:03,560 --> 02:00:05,199
funds just to recruitment funds because

2379
02:00:05,199 --> 02:00:07,079
that question came up the other day just

2380
02:00:07,079 --> 02:00:10,599
it's just a change on the

2381
02:00:10,599 --> 02:00:14,520
wording have we copied and

2382
02:00:14,520 --> 02:00:17,599
paste so I don't I mean it's no money

2383
02:00:17,599 --> 02:00:19,679
difference it's just that um people were

2384
02:00:19,679 --> 02:00:22,320
confused because about that but it's not

2385
02:00:22,320 --> 02:00:24,000
just to recruit for the mayor's office

2386
02:00:24,000 --> 02:00:27,199
it's to recruit in

2387
02:00:27,199 --> 02:00:30,119
general yeah I I don't think we ever use

2388
02:00:30,119 --> 02:00:32,280
this but we never use it one attempt to

2389
02:00:32,280 --> 02:00:35,679
use it and the just walk away if you can

2390
02:00:35,679 --> 02:00:38,079
recall yeah it was it was put in there

2391
02:00:38,079 --> 02:00:39,679
just for a question to the May during

2392
02:00:39,679 --> 02:00:42,119
the co that people weren't seeking job

2393
02:00:42,119 --> 02:00:44,320
and incentive there I think that is

2394
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:46,360
going to be know people are applying

2395
02:00:46,360 --> 02:00:49,520
they're coming forward applying for jobs

2396
02:00:49,520 --> 02:00:51,320
take away money I was just saying just

2397
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:56,470
change the

2398
02:00:56,480 --> 02:00:59,400
line it was more of a need at that time

2399
02:00:59,400 --> 02:01:01,840
rather than now it's not much much of a

2400
02:01:01,840 --> 02:01:05,239
need now to for this

2401
02:01:05,239 --> 02:01:08,159
line um we already did senior

2402
02:01:08,159 --> 02:01:10,480
centers and then I already mentioned

2403
02:01:10,480 --> 02:01:12,719
what I felt about the outside Council

2404
02:01:12,719 --> 02:01:15,679
for civilian police review

2405
02:01:15,679 --> 02:01:19,840
board and oh yeah this is the one where

2406
02:01:19,840 --> 02:01:22,639
6 I think we addressed that

2407
02:01:22,639 --> 02:01:38,550
8121 121

2408
02:01:38,560 --> 02:01:40,510
yeah

2409
02:01:40,510 --> 02:01:43,560
[Music]

2410
02:01:43,560 --> 02:01:45,920
121 oh we're going back let us went up

2411
02:01:45,920 --> 02:01:46,800
to 6

2412
02:01:46,800 --> 02:01:49,440
to5 this I think didn't we say say let's

2413
02:01:49,440 --> 02:01:51,719
check that because it went from 58 416

2414
02:01:51,719 --> 02:01:53,840
to

2415
02:01:53,840 --> 02:01:55,520
79 the

2416
02:01:55,520 --> 02:01:59,639
cor I explain how sorry I didn't see the

2417
02:01:59,639 --> 02:02:03,119
corre sorry C CV operator oh that's on

2418
02:02:03,119 --> 02:02:09,159
the other sheet okay umed 8120 d121 659

2419
02:02:09,159 --> 02:02:12,560
so it was um in 2023 it was9

2420
02:02:12,560 --> 02:02:14,880
416 and then it was brought to us with

2421
02:02:14,880 --> 02:02:17,760
70,000 but then it went down okay I got

2422
02:02:17,760 --> 02:02:21,560
it so 659 68 okay thank you I think that

2423
02:02:21,560 --> 02:02:27,920
is do official ask by morning one okay

2424
02:02:27,920 --> 02:02:33,430
thank

2425
02:02:33,440 --> 02:02:36,709
you

2426
02:02:36,719 --> 02:02:41,400
good all right I don't over Health

2427
02:02:41,400 --> 02:02:44,360
members

2428
02:02:44,360 --> 02:02:46,440
yeah

2429
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:49,920
um I think were asking can just go back

2430
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,199
to the benefit the Healthcare

2431
02:02:53,199 --> 02:02:56,560
numbers and also add to that the last

2432
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,599
year we did receive a rebate of

2433
02:02:59,599 --> 02:03:02,480
500,000 last year so where is that in

2434
02:03:02,480 --> 02:03:04,679
this proposed budget in the proposed

2435
02:03:04,679 --> 02:03:06,480
budget yes the

2436
02:03:06,480 --> 02:03:09,199
$500,000 reate are we not receiving any

2437
02:03:09,199 --> 02:03:12,159
reate this uh we hope we rece reate uh

2438
02:03:12,159 --> 02:03:14,440
what we do is US put that the rebate we

2439
02:03:14,440 --> 02:03:17,679
usually get is from uh from Pharmacy yes

2440
02:03:17,679 --> 02:03:22,639
we us we will do from the pharmacy is to

2441
02:03:22,639 --> 02:03:26,560
uh I believe we just last year we did

2442
02:03:26,560 --> 02:03:31,189
receive receive a budget of

2443
02:03:31,199 --> 02:03:35,000
500,000 I mean this year excuse me this

2444
02:03:35,000 --> 02:03:37,320
year what was your budgeted amount for

2445
02:03:37,320 --> 02:03:39,719
2023 for what

2446
02:03:39,719 --> 02:03:47,870
rebate hold on from the

2447
02:03:47,880 --> 02:03:49,880
pharmacy

2448
02:03:49,880 --> 02:03:52,490
no that will be all the way

2449
02:03:52,490 --> 02:03:56,030
[Applause]

2450
02:03:56,040 --> 02:03:58,920
to yeah was in near the back

2451
02:03:58,920 --> 02:04:17,790
right employ page page

2452
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4

2453
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is it the Medicare reimbursement right

2454
02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:30,440
here no no

2455
02:04:30,440 --> 02:04:34,030
that that's something

2456
02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:37,559
else I think this is the pharmacy proact

2457
02:04:37,559 --> 02:04:40,360
reate right yeah I don't see

2458
02:04:40,360 --> 02:04:43,719
here we do with that though too we

2459
02:04:43,719 --> 02:04:46,040
usually try to lower what our payouts

2460
02:04:46,040 --> 02:04:48,280
going to be when we get that yeah but in

2461
02:04:48,280 --> 02:04:51,400
our it's not recorded in I have to find

2462
02:04:51,400 --> 02:04:53,119
out can you write that down yeah take a

2463
02:04:53,119 --> 02:05:00,599
yeah yeah that's so was the in other words are you

2464
02:05:00,599 --> 02:05:07,199
saying that that was in 2023 or that yes so what we do is I had to I hired a

2465
02:05:07,199 --> 02:05:11,960
group to audit our our things and one of

2466
02:05:11,960 --> 02:05:13,679
the things that we getting is to make

2467
02:05:13,679 --> 02:05:16,440
sure that they give us the full benefits

2468
02:05:16,440 --> 02:05:19,480
that we pay for and that's how we rebate

2469
02:05:19,480 --> 02:05:21,559
it's it's a

2470
02:05:21,559 --> 02:05:24,800
reat that it will receive and it's

2471
02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:28,280
attached to the the proact if I'm yeah

2472
02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:31,599
proa far um Pharmacy so my question is

2473
02:05:31,599 --> 02:05:33,760
though is that a guaranteed rebate in

2474
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:38,040
2024 I mean in other words lur yeah so

2475
02:05:38,040 --> 02:05:39,320
that's why it's not in the budget yeah

2476
02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:41,199
that's why well see I mean we had it in

2477
02:05:41,199 --> 02:05:43,040
the budget for 2023 it's not really I

2478
02:05:43,040 --> 02:05:45,079
don't see I don't see here is

2479
02:05:45,079 --> 02:05:46,760
a

2480
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:49,079
maybe is it on the revenue still want to

2481
02:05:49,079 --> 02:05:54,709
count on something

2482
02:05:54,719 --> 02:06:07,830
$500,000 I think it would be in

2483
02:06:07,840 --> 02:06:11,719
Revenue 82680 you're talking

2484
02:06:11,719 --> 02:06:14,400
about is it I'm sorry j so Revenue

2485
02:06:14,400 --> 02:06:16,639
you're talking about

2486
02:06:16,639 --> 02:06:20,199
8 is that the is that a

2487
02:06:20,199 --> 02:06:23,719
proa I think it's proa and our what's

2488
02:06:23,719 --> 02:06:28,480
the other one can huh Canon no stop it's

2489
02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:30,760
um

2490
02:06:30,760 --> 02:06:38,870
82680 D

2491
02:06:38,880 --> 02:06:41,199
266

2492
02:06:41,199 --> 02:06:43,679
Jesus

2493
02:06:43,679 --> 02:06:47,000
recoveries oh Insurance recoveries yeah

2494
02:06:47,000 --> 02:06:52,040
good gotcha ah so 268d I see it yeah

2495
02:06:52,040 --> 02:06:54,679
line a Reb line that's that's a rebate

2496
02:06:54,679 --> 02:06:56,880
line yes and

2497
02:06:56,880 --> 02:07:00,079
uh we don't use it as a in the as a

2498
02:07:00,079 --> 02:07:02,480
revenue we don't put in as an

2499
02:07:02,480 --> 02:07:05,639
expense you know we put it as a revenue

2500
02:07:05,639 --> 02:07:11,589
but what if you don't get

2501
02:07:11,599 --> 02:07:13,559
it in

2502
02:07:13,559 --> 02:07:15,880
my life I wouldn't let anybody put let

2503
02:07:15,880 --> 02:07:17,880
me put grants in yeah what happen if

2504
02:07:17,880 --> 02:07:23,470
people don't pay ta you well that's

2505
02:07:23,480 --> 02:07:25,559
true so that's just something that they

2506
02:07:25,559 --> 02:07:29,189
do every year

2507
02:07:29,199 --> 02:07:32,360
possibly we have a couple things we have

2508
02:07:32,360 --> 02:07:37,520
the the stock loss rebate and that's

2509
02:07:37,520 --> 02:07:41,040
good we pay a lot of

2510
02:07:41,040 --> 02:07:43,320
money a lot of money on the on the

2511
02:07:43,320 --> 02:07:45,679
healthcare part I mean I have not say

2512
02:07:45,679 --> 02:07:47,880
that you're saying is going up by 14%

2513
02:07:47,880 --> 02:07:51,199
higher but across the standard um across

2514
02:07:51,199 --> 02:07:53,719
the board is going up like 6 to 8% what

2515
02:07:53,719 --> 02:07:55,840
is the difference with your 40% going up

2516
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:57,880
your hes the

2517
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:02,520
68% I I I felt that 14% the way we've

2518
02:08:02,520 --> 02:08:05,000
been really working the last few years

2519
02:08:05,000 --> 02:08:08,559
we we're probably between uh 6% and I

2520
02:08:08,559 --> 02:08:10,639
felt I didn't want to raise the budget

2521
02:08:10,639 --> 02:08:13,239
to 14% where I felt we can get away with

2522
02:08:13,239 --> 02:08:16,159
ses that's what our our cumulative Bas

2523
02:08:16,159 --> 02:08:19,119
is you know what I mean last year I

2524
02:08:19,119 --> 02:08:22,360
think you were at six around that per

2525
02:08:22,360 --> 02:08:26,000
last year you were at 6% so 14% higher

2526
02:08:26,000 --> 02:08:28,229
this

2527
02:08:28,239 --> 02:08:31,760
year on some of the trends were during

2528
02:08:31,760 --> 02:08:36,199
Co were self-insured pay what the actual

2529
02:08:36,199 --> 02:08:38,599
uh usage

2530
02:08:38,599 --> 02:08:41,079
is people weren't going to the doctor as

2531
02:08:41,079 --> 02:08:43,000
much people deferred procedures and

2532
02:08:43,000 --> 02:08:46,559
other things so the costs went down now

2533
02:08:46,559 --> 02:08:49,520
all those things that were deferred

2534
02:08:49,520 --> 02:08:52,360
are starting to catch up with people so

2535
02:08:52,360 --> 02:08:53,360
you're

2536
02:08:53,360 --> 02:08:56,400
seeing just a higher utilization is that

2537
02:08:56,400 --> 02:08:59,360
TR yep plus uh you got to remember too

2538
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:01,719
we're also hiring more people too more

2539
02:09:01,719 --> 02:09:04,119
families and uh you know there one one

2540
02:09:04,119 --> 02:09:06,400
thing too you're hiring police and fire

2541
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:09,119
and they're retiring at a young age so

2542
02:09:09,119 --> 02:09:12,040
what happens so for every every uh you

2543
02:09:12,040 --> 02:09:14,520
know a person who retires of a family

2544
02:09:14,520 --> 02:09:16,079
you got four guys on it you're not

2545
02:09:16,079 --> 02:09:19,960
getting rid of four people cuz they're on 65 you're still paying for

2546
02:09:19,960 --> 02:09:25,520
them so you're adding another one so as people retire it's not the number

2547
02:09:25,520 --> 02:09:27,880
never goes down it goes up because plus

2548
02:09:27,880 --> 02:09:29,719
especially for Public

2549
02:09:29,719 --> 02:09:32,239
Service Plus these these the health

2550
02:09:32,239 --> 02:09:33,920
insurance benefits I mean don't you get

2551
02:09:33,920 --> 02:09:35,559
that from our

2552
02:09:35,559 --> 02:09:38,520
analyst you have you have an analyst

2553
02:09:38,520 --> 02:09:39,679
makes these

2554
02:09:39,679 --> 02:09:42,639
recomendations stuff right yeah yeah you

2555
02:09:42,639 --> 02:09:51,990
got the thing all analysis yeah

2556
02:09:52,000 --> 02:09:54,400
any other question on this

2557
02:09:54,400 --> 02:10:02,270
part okay let's move

2558
02:10:02,280 --> 02:10:03,480
[Applause]

2559
02:10:03,480 --> 02:10:07,030
back sorry I didn't have

2560
02:10:07,040 --> 02:10:11,390
to second to

2561
02:10:11,400 --> 02:10:14,239
last it has to do

2562
02:10:14,239 --> 02:10:17,239
with keep going to the next

2563
02:10:17,239 --> 02:10:21,639
page yeah right there the next one is um

2564
02:10:21,639 --> 02:10:25,410
no fee increase for water St and

2565
02:10:25,410 --> 02:10:33,109
[Music]

2566
02:10:33,119 --> 02:10:35,679
garbage can

2567
02:10:35,679 --> 02:10:41,430
you he's just talking about

2568
02:10:41,440 --> 02:10:44,239
this here made a recommendation to you

2569
02:10:44,239 --> 02:10:47,719
that water and sewer you know what's our

2570
02:10:47,719 --> 02:10:53,239
numbers we spent 54 million 50 58

2571
02:10:53,239 --> 02:10:56,119
million 58 million in upgrades the

2572
02:10:56,119 --> 02:10:58,719
facilities we've gotten approximately

2573
02:10:58,719 --> 02:11:02,559
$21 million in

2574
02:11:02,559 --> 02:11:05,599
Grants and now we have that difference

2575
02:11:05,599 --> 02:11:10,079
of 30 some million dollar that is

2576
02:11:10,079 --> 02:11:13,280
largely at 0% interest so the overall

2577
02:11:13,280 --> 02:11:16,280
financing package is pretty good but now

2578
02:11:16,280 --> 02:11:19,159
we have to pay

2579
02:11:19,159 --> 02:11:22,520
that money back so this is being

2580
02:11:22,520 --> 02:11:24,840
financed I think over 30 years is what

2581
02:11:24,840 --> 02:11:28,159
we're looking to go to market on so that

2582
02:11:28,159 --> 02:11:32,400
adds over a million dollars a year in

2583
02:11:32,400 --> 02:11:37,199
expenses to finance the uh the

2584
02:11:37,199 --> 02:11:39,159
operations Anthony do you have an

2585
02:11:39,159 --> 02:11:42,320
overall um number regards to the water

2586
02:11:42,320 --> 02:11:44,920
one garbage overall the overall number

2587
02:11:44,920 --> 02:11:46,599
what does that mean the increase it's

2588
02:11:46,599 --> 02:11:50,760
like $174 no in terms of all the units

2589
02:11:50,760 --> 02:11:54,320
yeah I I I think for the you have the

2590
02:11:54,320 --> 02:11:56,800
units for garbage we have the rates in

2591
02:11:56,800 --> 02:11:57,719
the

2592
02:11:57,719 --> 02:12:00,360
budget we have the uh for the waist

2593
02:12:00,360 --> 02:12:03,040
there's a sheet that was handed out to

2594
02:12:03,040 --> 02:12:08,350
all the council

2595
02:12:08,360 --> 02:12:10,960
members do we have a number of units for

2596
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:12,920
the

2597
02:12:12,920 --> 02:12:15,760
um you know PA I thought he gave you

2598
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:19,440
these numbers PA for water and store he

2599
02:12:19,440 --> 02:12:25,830
gave us waste collection

2600
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:31,189
Revenue yeah that's all I

2601
02:12:31,199 --> 02:12:35,719
got this is the one for waste

2602
02:12:35,719 --> 02:12:41,239
collection right right

2603
02:12:41,239 --> 02:12:43,159
and I

2604
02:12:43,159 --> 02:12:46,159
think I think uh whatam call it excuse

2605
02:12:46,159 --> 02:12:49,719
me D Derek add an analysis of the

2606
02:12:49,719 --> 02:12:52,159
proposed budget and that even with the

2607
02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:55,480
increase our uh garbage fees that we're

2608
02:12:55,480 --> 02:12:58,480
receiving even from uh you know not only

2609
02:12:58,480 --> 02:13:00,760
being charged but outside or collection

2610
02:13:00,760 --> 02:13:02,960
outside the city and the commercial was

2611
02:13:02,960 --> 02:13:03,760
we

2612
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:08,910
still uh we're still losing

2613
02:13:08,920 --> 02:13:11,400
$86,000 and if you cut that off we're

2614
02:13:11,400 --> 02:13:13,800
going to lose if you look at 2023 you're

2615
02:13:13,800 --> 02:13:15,679
going to lose a million 82 plus that

2616
02:13:15,679 --> 02:13:18,520
89,000 looking at you know 1

2617
02:13:18,520 --> 02:13:22,480
.16 so million what what's the number

2618
02:13:22,480 --> 02:13:25,760
overall would be 1.16 it's right here on

2619
02:13:25,760 --> 02:13:28,480
this got this one yeah you got

2620
02:13:28,480 --> 02:13:32,159
it give it out today again too

2621
02:13:32,159 --> 02:13:35,639
yeahor got it okay see the 2020 prop

2622
02:13:35,639 --> 02:13:38,280
proposed budget has the increase in it

2623
02:13:38,280 --> 02:13:39,840
and even with the

2624
02:13:39,840 --> 02:13:42,760
increase the total of cost of wage

2625
02:13:42,760 --> 02:13:44,520
Administration is losing

2626
02:13:44,520 --> 02:13:47,480
$889,000 but if you don't increase it

2627
02:13:47,480 --> 02:13:49,280
you're going to have have it the 22

2628
02:13:49,280 --> 02:13:52,280
adopted budget it's going to be the 100

2629
02:13:52,280 --> 02:13:54,920
a million million 8 plus the 89 is going

2630
02:13:54,920 --> 02:13:56,960
to be a

2631
02:13:56,960 --> 02:14:03,629
million

2632
02:14:03,639 --> 02:14:05,960
million6 so there's no there's currently

2633
02:14:05,960 --> 02:14:09,599
no Surplus um in that line no has there

2634
02:14:09,599 --> 02:14:11,559
hasn't been a surplus last couple years

2635
02:14:11,559 --> 02:14:12,840
that's why every year we've been trying

2636
02:14:12,840 --> 02:14:14,719
to ask for more and more

2637
02:14:14,719 --> 02:14:19,079
money because the costs have gone up and uh you know the cost of everything

2638
02:14:19,079 --> 02:14:21,559
is going up right especially

2639
02:14:21,559 --> 02:14:24,079
fuel salaries I to tell you you know

2640
02:14:24,079 --> 02:14:26,199
fuel salar you know

2641
02:14:26,199 --> 02:14:28,679
just

2642
02:14:28,679 --> 02:14:33,629
benefits equipment

2643
02:14:33,639 --> 02:14:35,599
gasoline I thing is about staying the

2644
02:14:35,599 --> 02:14:37,280
same as believe it or not as the general

2645
02:14:37,280 --> 02:14:39,440
liability ins general liability

2646
02:14:39,440 --> 02:14:41,199
insurance L thing they went up only went

2647
02:14:41,199 --> 02:14:45,669
up

2648
02:14:45,679 --> 02:14:48,599
6% excuse me and I think last year we

2649
02:14:48,599 --> 02:14:52,520
did not raise the fees to the level that

2650
02:14:52,520 --> 02:14:53,679
they had

2651
02:14:53,679 --> 02:14:56,040
recommended no we get not to the level

2652
02:14:56,040 --> 02:14:58,800
there but we did um I don't remember

2653
02:14:58,800 --> 02:15:00,960
exactly but I think we get half or

2654
02:15:00,960 --> 02:15:03,440
something but not so the feel like it

2655
02:15:03,440 --> 02:15:08,549
was not the amount asked

2656
02:15:08,559 --> 02:15:10,840
for so we'd have to figure out how to

2657
02:15:10,840 --> 02:15:13,040
make up sure if we didn't raise the fees

2658
02:15:13,040 --> 02:15:16,199
we'd have to figure out how increase

2659
02:15:16,199 --> 02:15:20,040
Revenue yeah increase Revenue so and in

2660
02:15:20,040 --> 02:15:22,000
thinking about that so I was as I was

2661
02:15:22,000 --> 02:15:23,639
going through revenue and probably mayor

2662
02:15:23,639 --> 02:15:26,400
this is probably a question for you um

2663
02:15:26,400 --> 02:15:28,119
like the payment in LW of taxes is there

2664
02:15:28,119 --> 02:15:29,599
ever an opportunity for us to

2665
02:15:29,599 --> 02:15:32,719
renegotiate those or uh do not for

2666
02:15:32,719 --> 02:15:35,719
profits pay those I mean how is

2667
02:15:35,719 --> 02:15:42,549
that um figured

2668
02:15:42,559 --> 02:15:46,040
out well suppose any of them could be

2669
02:15:46,040 --> 02:15:50,280
renegotiated subject that those are uh

2670
02:15:50,280 --> 02:15:54,199
they standard packages that are put in

2671
02:15:54,199 --> 02:15:56,520
place either through the Ida or there's

2672
02:15:56,520 --> 02:15:58,320
more flexibility through

2673
02:15:58,320 --> 02:16:01,840
Metroflex those tend to

2674
02:16:01,840 --> 02:16:05,800
increment uh 5% a year

2675
02:16:05,800 --> 02:16:08,159
over 15

2676
02:16:08,159 --> 02:16:11,760
years so you discounting the initial

2677
02:16:11,760 --> 02:16:13,480
years which creates incentives for the

2678
02:16:13,480 --> 02:16:16,960
investment and then it ramps up to what

2679
02:16:16,960 --> 02:16:20,280
hopefully is full

2680
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:22,719
participation uh at the whatever the

2681
02:16:22,719 --> 02:16:24,639
current tax rate is at the time of the

2682
02:16:24,639 --> 02:16:29,109
Indy

2683
02:16:29,119 --> 02:16:32,280
agreement so we are seeing increased

2684
02:16:32,280 --> 02:16:34,280
revenue from

2685
02:16:34,280 --> 02:16:37,080
those uh but again you're also seeing

2686
02:16:37,080 --> 02:16:39,760
the economic development that's

2687
02:16:39,760 --> 02:16:43,399
happening and where the robust numbers

2688
02:16:43,399 --> 02:16:46,080
in sales tax uh are somewhat

2689
02:16:46,080 --> 02:16:49,280
attributable to the levels of

2690
02:16:49,280 --> 02:16:51,760
uh economic development that were

2691
02:16:51,760 --> 02:16:53,679
facilitated through those payments of

2692
02:16:53,679 --> 02:16:56,349
lower

2693
02:16:56,359 --> 02:16:59,080
taxes well because at in 21 we were at

2694
02:16:59,080 --> 02:17:02,599
2.5 and then in 22 went for the actuals

2695
02:17:02,599 --> 02:17:03,760
we went down to

2696
02:17:03,760 --> 02:17:06,240
2.4 so that that's why I was Raising

2697
02:17:06,240 --> 02:17:08,359
that question according to the

2698
02:17:08,359 --> 02:17:10,719
information we have from Mr

2699
02:17:10,719 --> 02:17:13,960
um and Mr Ferrari and some of that would

2700
02:17:13,960 --> 02:17:16,399
be is it opposed to showing up in that

2701
02:17:16,399 --> 02:17:25,190
line it would show up in tax

2702
02:17:25,200 --> 02:17:33,509
revenue okay

2703
02:17:33,519 --> 02:17:35,880
thanks I mean this is on for discussion

2704
02:17:35,880 --> 02:17:38,559
because there is a a major concern out

2705
02:17:38,559 --> 02:17:41,120
there in terms of us raising it to

2706
02:17:41,120 --> 02:17:43,639
that

2707
02:17:43,639 --> 02:17:46,599
level okay but we have to pay the

2708
02:17:46,599 --> 02:17:51,389
employees and those are the

2709
02:17:51,399 --> 02:17:54,200
cost I was at the public hearing I hear

2710
02:17:54,200 --> 02:17:57,000
one person complain about the budget at

2711
02:17:57,000 --> 02:18:00,519
all we'll direct all call your off you

2712
02:18:00,519 --> 02:18:02,359
know when people are not happy they come

2713
02:18:02,359 --> 02:18:05,000
in and I didn't see one person came that

2714
02:18:05,000 --> 02:18:07,679
come in who said anything

2715
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:11,200
negative increases people will tell us

2716
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:12,679
we will get call over and over that they

2717
02:18:12,679 --> 02:18:14,000
will will show up at a public hearing

2718
02:18:14,000 --> 02:18:16,080
and we won't do anything regardless of

2719
02:18:16,080 --> 02:18:17,920
what they said one person we will make

2720
02:18:17,920 --> 02:18:19,599
recommendation here and we don't even

2721
02:18:19,599 --> 02:18:21,080
come back to the table here and discuss

2722
02:18:21,080 --> 02:18:26,629
it the public

2723
02:18:26,639 --> 02:18:28,719
hearings I can say that I know that no

2724
02:18:28,719 --> 02:18:30,800
one showed up even though people told me

2725
02:18:30,800 --> 02:18:32,840
I'm going to come and talk about ABC and

2726
02:18:32,840 --> 02:18:36,240
talk about it um and uh but I I've heard

2727
02:18:36,240 --> 02:18:39,439
from people as well in terms of that

2728
02:18:39,439 --> 02:18:41,719
this particular um item I think that's

2729
02:18:41,719 --> 02:18:46,509
always a concern for

2730
02:18:46,519 --> 02:18:50,230
people

2731
02:18:50,240 --> 02:18:52,120
that's a major concern with regards to

2732
02:18:52,120 --> 02:18:54,830
the

2733
02:18:54,840 --> 02:18:56,960
water we would have to figure out we'd

2734
02:18:56,960 --> 02:18:58,920
have to figure out how to make that up I

2735
02:18:58,920 --> 02:19:01,760
mean this budget also doesn't have a tax

2736
02:19:01,760 --> 02:19:04,080
increase so I mean what would be the

2737
02:19:04,080 --> 02:19:06,080
balance in terms of if we don't do the

2738
02:19:06,080 --> 02:19:07,719
water sewer and

2739
02:19:07,719 --> 02:19:10,080
waste

2740
02:19:10,080 --> 02:19:18,120
um where would we get that Revenue you see these times of inflation cost increases everything

2741
02:19:18,120 --> 02:19:20,160
you I don't expect us to keep everything

2742
02:19:20,160 --> 02:19:22,160
the same the upgrades to the facilties

2743
02:19:22,160 --> 02:19:23,439
upgrades I'm saying how do you keep

2744
02:19:23,439 --> 02:19:24,679
everything the same everything is going

2745
02:19:24,679 --> 02:19:28,280
up where that's how you get that big

2746
02:19:28,280 --> 02:19:31,120
77.2 million G you know that you're

2747
02:19:31,120 --> 02:19:32,559
talking about that's that's how what

2748
02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:35,439
you're creating by not raising the fees

2749
02:19:35,439 --> 02:19:38,120
right now you know it's not a dramatic

2750
02:19:38,120 --> 02:19:43,160
increase what it150 a week for garbage

2751
02:19:43,160 --> 02:19:45,319
uh water I forgot what of

2752
02:19:45,319 --> 02:19:48,920
those the

2753
02:19:48,920 --> 02:19:56,270
year 1626 that is per unit isn't it

2754
02:19:56,280 --> 02:19:58,240
16265 cents a

2755
02:19:58,240 --> 02:20:03,399
day for water or water 0.045 cents a

2756
02:20:03,399 --> 02:20:08,040
day and then the um the sewer is 20

2757
02:20:08,040 --> 02:20:09,280
cents a day or

2758
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:11,359
$742 for the

2759
02:20:11,359 --> 02:20:14,399
year right yeah and then the the other

2760
02:20:14,399 --> 02:20:16,359
one though I don't

2761
02:20:16,359 --> 02:20:18,520
have

2762
02:20:18,520 --> 02:20:20,960
the other one you'd have to tell me that

2763
02:20:20,960 --> 02:20:22,880
was Water and Sewer

2764
02:20:22,880 --> 02:20:25,960
but water sewer for yeah I don't have

2765
02:20:25,960 --> 02:20:29,640
that one broken out yeah the

2766
02:20:29,640 --> 02:20:33,399
waste the garbage broken out oh I

2767
02:20:33,399 --> 02:20:36,080
see got you got you thank

2768
02:20:36,080 --> 02:20:40,630
you that's the next page oh yep I

2769
02:20:40,640 --> 02:20:43,479
see so what are you are you proposing

2770
02:20:43,479 --> 02:20:47,040
anything or no no just discuss it it's a

2771
02:20:47,040 --> 02:20:52,670
concern right so understood

2772
02:20:52,680 --> 02:20:55,359
yeah we have I'm a taxpayer in the city

2773
02:20:55,359 --> 02:20:57,439
too I don't want taxes anything go up

2774
02:20:57,439 --> 02:20:59,000
either but I know I've been in business

2775
02:20:59,000 --> 02:21:01,880
50 years I know you got to you got to

2776
02:21:01,880 --> 02:21:09,750
raise things please you got

2777
02:21:09,760 --> 02:21:12,439
to do you know what we raised it last

2778
02:21:12,439 --> 02:21:17,359
year for we yeah did we raise it was

2779
02:21:17,359 --> 02:21:19,560
can't remember the

2780
02:21:19,560 --> 02:21:24,309
exact was request how

2781
02:21:24,319 --> 02:21:28,479
much 50 or 51 I think it was 50 actually

2782
02:21:28,479 --> 02:21:30,960
no 249 is

2783
02:21:30,960 --> 02:21:34,479
this it was other

2784
02:21:34,479 --> 02:21:38,990
words I was asking what

2785
02:21:39,000 --> 02:21:46,230
we

2786
02:21:46,240 --> 02:21:49,630
se7

2787
02:21:49,640 --> 02:21:52,479
78 thank you this is for the new rate

2788
02:21:52,479 --> 02:21:59,150
that they want to do for um 20 next year

2789
02:21:59,160 --> 02:22:02,920
2024 yeah 16846 a year I thought it was

2790
02:22:02,920 --> 02:22:05,720
174 the total cost of those three

2791
02:22:05,720 --> 02:22:08,120
increases per

2792
02:22:08,120 --> 02:22:11,510
household one

2793
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:14,800
unit one household unit

2794
02:22:14,800 --> 02:22:17,479
household so you have if you have a two

2795
02:22:17,479 --> 02:22:21,469
that will multiply

2796
02:22:21,479 --> 02:22:28,750
by

2797
02:22:28,760 --> 02:22:34,309
but all right I

2798
02:22:34,319 --> 02:22:37,680
guess I like the idea of keeping taxes

2799
02:22:37,680 --> 02:22:39,520
uh not increasing the

2800
02:22:39,520 --> 02:22:44,399
taxes um and $168 46 a year to these

2801
02:22:44,399 --> 02:22:54,110
three fees per unit as Mr M say for

2802
02:22:54,120 --> 02:22:56,560
unit okay let let's let's move over to

2803
02:22:56,560 --> 02:22:58,040
the next item we'll come back to this

2804
02:22:58,040 --> 02:23:00,920
one discussion on current overall

2805
02:23:00,920 --> 02:23:05,720
vacancies and the propos um new high for

2806
02:23:05,720 --> 02:23:08,120
2024 this is the question for

2807
02:23:08,120 --> 02:23:11,960
me we we had over the last two years I

2808
02:23:11,960 --> 02:23:14,279
several vacancy that is not being killed

2809
02:23:14,279 --> 02:23:17,680
and we keep you know last year this year

2810
02:23:17,680 --> 02:23:21,479
and then we're adding another set of new

2811
02:23:21,479 --> 02:23:25,800
hire4 can we cut back a little on

2812
02:23:25,800 --> 02:23:29,359
this are all these needed well that's

2813
02:23:29,359 --> 02:23:32,359
what I recommended to you you know it's

2814
02:23:32,359 --> 02:23:33,840
going to be your

2815
02:23:33,840 --> 02:23:35,439
final

2816
02:23:35,439 --> 02:23:38,399
decision uh again we've had difficulty

2817
02:23:38,399 --> 02:23:39,840
in terms of

2818
02:23:39,840 --> 02:23:44,399
recruiting for seeing that shift so that

2819
02:23:44,399 --> 02:23:47,279
I'm more optimistic going into 2023

2820
02:23:47,279 --> 02:23:50,080
we'll be able to bring staff enough

2821
02:23:50,080 --> 02:23:55,150
to again what is the budget as

2822
02:23:55,160 --> 02:23:58,960
level no Echo your word I mean with cost

2823
02:23:58,960 --> 02:24:01,880
savings where do we where do we take

2824
02:24:01,880 --> 02:24:03,880
asting Mr problem anymore where do we

2825
02:24:03,880 --> 02:24:05,600
tyen our belt from we need to start

2826
02:24:05,600 --> 02:24:07,479
tighten our Bel because we're facing

2827
02:24:07,479 --> 02:24:10,720
$7.4 million next year so we need to

2828
02:24:10,720 --> 02:24:13,760
start this year in terms of start cling

2829
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:17,479
back on expense and you know bring back

2830
02:24:17,479 --> 02:24:19,439
some savings into the

2831
02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:24,550
budget that can help to reduce the

2832
02:24:24,560 --> 02:24:27,279
cost because I'm not sure I I doubt with

2833
02:24:27,279 --> 02:24:28,240
all these

2834
02:24:28,240 --> 02:24:31,600
position except for police and fire the

2835
02:24:31,600 --> 02:24:33,359
other position then will

2836
02:24:33,359 --> 02:24:36,200
get this year and next

2837
02:24:36,200 --> 02:24:39,040
year but we still have the work done

2838
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:40,760
currently in

2839
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:43,040
house I know it's a little bit more that

2840
02:24:43,040 --> 02:24:45,640
the staff has to do but eventually we

2841
02:24:45,640 --> 02:24:47,680
can hire a few more to compliment what

2842
02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:52,640
we have but I'm making a suggestion

2843
02:24:52,640 --> 02:24:57,550
that not all this is

2844
02:24:57,560 --> 02:25:00,399
needed right we' still delivered the

2845
02:25:00,399 --> 02:25:01,880
work you know I've been subject to

2846
02:25:01,880 --> 02:25:05,319
criticism for not hiring positions and

2847
02:25:05,319 --> 02:25:09,040
staff does feel some of that and again

2848
02:25:09,040 --> 02:25:10,640
I've submitted a budget to you that I

2849
02:25:10,640 --> 02:25:15,880
feel is adequate and it's uh now in the

2850
02:25:15,880 --> 02:25:17,520
uh

2851
02:25:17,520 --> 02:25:19,160
council's decision you know if you want

2852
02:25:19,160 --> 02:25:21,600
to go through specific

2853
02:25:21,600 --> 02:25:24,279
positions bring department heads back in

2854
02:25:24,279 --> 02:25:27,080
to look at what their goals and

2855
02:25:27,080 --> 02:25:34,710
objectives are with each individual

2856
02:25:34,720 --> 02:25:38,080
position any suggestion on this may she

2857
02:25:38,080 --> 02:25:42,429
I didn't bring that back with me

2858
02:25:42,439 --> 02:25:44,560
today and again I think some of these

2859
02:25:44,560 --> 02:25:46,520
will remain open just in terms of what

2860
02:25:46,520 --> 02:25:48,680
the

2861
02:25:48,680 --> 02:25:56,830
you know the recruitment issues that we'

2862
02:25:56,840 --> 02:26:00,080
had I have all this much so we'll be

2863
02:26:00,080 --> 02:26:05,710
talking about it I know on Friday

2864
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:08,000
but no I'm just bringing that forward

2865
02:26:08,000 --> 02:26:10,680
because we got to take more some we

2866
02:26:10,680 --> 02:26:12,680
can't wait for next year to typ then

2867
02:26:12,680 --> 02:26:15,240
we're going to be more and the number is

2868
02:26:15,240 --> 02:26:17,720
going to go up higher

2869
02:26:17,720 --> 02:26:24,030
where do we start we have to start

2870
02:26:24,040 --> 02:26:27,600
now want no I have yes I would like to

2871
02:26:27,600 --> 02:26:32,830
see

2872
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:39,349
that thank

2873
02:26:39,359 --> 02:26:41,080
you

2874
02:26:41,080 --> 02:26:44,120
yes oh

2875
02:26:44,120 --> 02:26:50,750
sorry I just seem to recall

2876
02:26:50,760 --> 02:26:55,600
how employees were so upset because the offices weren't being staffed and

2877
02:26:55,600 --> 02:26:58,600
the extra workloads on them and now we

2878
02:26:58,600 --> 02:27:01,349
don't want to

2879
02:27:01,359 --> 02:27:05,960
staff well yes we want to work done we

2880
02:27:05,960 --> 02:27:07,800
want to staff them but we we need the

2881
02:27:07,800 --> 02:27:09,720
money to staff them understood and if

2882
02:27:09,720 --> 02:27:11,240
you don't have the money then how are we

2883
02:27:11,240 --> 02:27:13,080
going to staff them are we going to

2884
02:27:13,080 --> 02:27:14,479
staff them and then we're going to end

2885
02:27:14,479 --> 02:27:16,319
up instead of 7.5 we're going to end up

2886
02:27:16,319 --> 02:27:22,870
9. five next year million

2887
02:27:22,880 --> 02:27:25,479
dollar so those are my my concern with

2888
02:27:25,479 --> 02:27:27,840
these two items

2889
02:27:27,840 --> 02:27:30,920
here in terms of the fee

2890
02:27:30,920 --> 02:27:33,200
increase and the discussion with regards

2891
02:27:33,200 --> 02:27:35,200
to the vacancy and then if we go back to

2892
02:27:35,200 --> 02:27:37,080
the pages we discussed earlier with some

2893
02:27:37,080 --> 02:27:39,560
of the suggestion that was submitted

2894
02:27:39,560 --> 02:27:42,080
there are some savings here potentially

2895
02:27:42,080 --> 02:27:44,760
some savings here that might help to

2896
02:27:44,760 --> 02:27:47,359
cushion the

2897
02:27:47,359 --> 02:27:50,760
M the water garbage Fe so overall we

2898
02:27:50,760 --> 02:27:53,080
have to look at all the Departments so

2899
02:27:53,080 --> 02:27:56,319
for savings not one department but every

2900
02:27:56,319 --> 02:27:58,520
department for savings and I think

2901
02:27:58,520 --> 02:28:01,160
that's what we here

2902
02:28:01,160 --> 02:28:03,800
for so my question would be though and I

2903
02:28:03,800 --> 02:28:08,000
don't know if uh the mayor or Mr Ferrari

2904
02:28:08,000 --> 02:28:10,640
can but I mean

2905
02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:12,720
historically when we look at that chart

2906
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:15,479
of how many openings there are um many

2907
02:28:15,479 --> 02:28:17,200
of those positions have probably been in

2908
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:18,840
you know they've been in the budget I I

2909
02:28:18,840 --> 02:28:21,439
think engineering jumps out at me yeah

2910
02:28:21,439 --> 02:28:22,600
that they have not filled those

2911
02:28:22,600 --> 02:28:25,960
positions so I guess what I'm saying is

2912
02:28:25,960 --> 02:28:29,359
sort of from a risk standpoint what are

2913
02:28:29,359 --> 02:28:32,240
the chances that the leaving the

2914
02:28:32,240 --> 02:28:34,439
positions into the budget what are the

2915
02:28:34,439 --> 02:28:36,399
chances that they perhaps again would

2916
02:28:36,399 --> 02:28:38,439
not get filled and so we would have the

2917
02:28:38,439 --> 02:28:40,960
savings do you see what I'm saying right

2918
02:28:40,960 --> 02:28:42,840
I don't know if I'm being articulate on

2919
02:28:42,840 --> 02:28:45,120
that if you if you mention the engineer

2920
02:28:45,120 --> 02:28:47,359
parand he's being several years of

2921
02:28:47,359 --> 02:28:49,720
not being filled because we if you can

2922
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:53,399
recall my years year after year we be

2923
02:28:53,399 --> 02:28:55,600
hearing that we're trying to Recine here

2924
02:28:55,600 --> 02:29:00,870
we're trying to rec here but nobody is

2925
02:29:00,880 --> 02:29:03,040
coming so if you were highlighting like

2926
02:29:03,040 --> 02:29:05,600
categorizing like extended open

2927
02:29:05,600 --> 02:29:08,760
vacancies and thenly uh open ones I

2928
02:29:08,760 --> 02:29:12,080
think is that what you I guess I would

2929
02:29:12,080 --> 02:29:13,640
like to see that I think that would be

2930
02:29:13,640 --> 02:29:15,840
important to see what has historically

2931
02:29:15,840 --> 02:29:18,120
remained open

2932
02:29:18,120 --> 02:29:20,160
yeah I was just I guess I was that is

2933
02:29:20,160 --> 02:29:21,760
sort of what I was saying if these guys

2934
02:29:21,760 --> 02:29:23,920
had sort of just a bird's eyee view of

2935
02:29:23,920 --> 02:29:27,479
that um in terms of taking the risk in

2936
02:29:27,479 --> 02:29:29,760
other words of having the positions

2937
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:32,200
still here because I think it's clear

2938
02:29:32,200 --> 02:29:34,760
again I'll use engineering as an example

2939
02:29:34,760 --> 02:29:38,560
that I mean there's a lot of work to be

2940
02:29:38,560 --> 02:29:41,399
done on that plate without the Staffing

2941
02:29:41,399 --> 02:29:43,160
so I'd rather see that the Staffing

2942
02:29:43,160 --> 02:29:46,160
remain in the budget thinking that

2943
02:29:46,160 --> 02:29:47,840
perhaps we might get a chance to hire

2944
02:29:47,840 --> 02:29:48,680
the

2945
02:29:48,680 --> 02:29:51,479
people um do you know what I'm saying oh

2946
02:29:51,479 --> 02:29:53,040
then that's where we deviate I guess I

2947
02:29:53,040 --> 02:29:54,200
was looking at from a standpoint

2948
02:29:54,200 --> 02:29:55,920
something been vac for an extended

2949
02:29:55,920 --> 02:30:02,230
period of time I get rid of

2950
02:30:02,240 --> 02:30:04,560
it and then if something has been newly

2951
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:07,760
requested evaluating that so yeah I was

2952
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:08,960
going to add to that we just need to

2953
02:30:08,960 --> 02:30:11,640
look at the the 2024 ads on top of the

2954
02:30:11,640 --> 02:30:15,479
2023 vacancies do we really need those

2955
02:30:15,479 --> 02:30:18,840
additional ads into 2024 on top of the

2956
02:30:18,840 --> 02:30:22,040
already vacancy that we have that paper

2957
02:30:22,040 --> 02:30:23,600
so it looks like that's something we're

2958
02:30:23,600 --> 02:30:25,399
going to have to think about each of us

2959
02:30:25,399 --> 02:30:27,399
when we go home before Friday so you

2960
02:30:27,399 --> 02:30:29,880
have that paper you have that paper um

2961
02:30:29,880 --> 02:30:32,279
as your back up if you're not if you

2962
02:30:32,279 --> 02:30:33,640
don't have it here we can make copies

2963
02:30:33,640 --> 02:30:36,399
for you if not it's more likely be home

2964
02:30:36,399 --> 02:30:39,479
I know we we can get copy

2965
02:30:39,479 --> 02:30:42,560
yeah look yes I would like to hire all

2966
02:30:42,560 --> 02:30:44,600
the staff every Department 100% but

2967
02:30:44,600 --> 02:30:45,800
where where are we going to get the fund

2968
02:30:45,800 --> 02:30:47,680
from where is the funding going to come

2969
02:30:47,680 --> 02:30:50,359
from and if we're looking at the numbers

2970
02:30:50,359 --> 02:30:55,399
of the May has mentioned $7.4 million we need to be very very conservative

2971
02:30:55,399 --> 02:30:58,160
very alert and to focus in on that

2972
02:30:58,160 --> 02:31:02,240
number $7.4 billion it's a lot of

2973
02:31:02,240 --> 02:31:04,120
money that we're going to dig in our

2974
02:31:04,120 --> 02:31:06,359
heels next year to where are we going to

2975
02:31:06,359 --> 02:31:07,359
find

2976
02:31:07,359 --> 02:31:12,830
savings we can't wait until next

2977
02:31:12,840 --> 02:31:15,359
year is better to start

2978
02:31:15,359 --> 02:31:19,510
now

2979
02:31:19,520 --> 02:31:20,920
so since we're talking about engineering

2980
02:31:20,920 --> 02:31:22,120
I just want to point out the fact that

2981
02:31:22,120 --> 02:31:25,880
the engineering department sorry did

2982
02:31:25,880 --> 02:31:29,319
already take um reduce their Staffing in

2983
02:31:29,319 --> 02:31:31,680
the budget so just so we're clear oh I'm

2984
02:31:31,680 --> 02:31:35,080
not saying I'm not no I was just using

2985
02:31:35,080 --> 02:31:38,279
it as an example I'll beend on that yeah

2986
02:31:38,279 --> 02:31:41,279
no okay but it's already been done my

2987
02:31:41,279 --> 02:31:43,800
point it's already been done by by um

2988
02:31:43,800 --> 02:31:45,359
this the chief

2989
02:31:45,359 --> 02:31:47,120
engineer

2990
02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:51,469
in terms of his budget request

2991
02:31:51,479 --> 02:31:54,439
so so here we are I mean I don't have

2992
02:31:54,439 --> 02:31:56,240
anything else

2993
02:31:56,240 --> 02:31:59,439
on Anthony if I may suggest based on the

2994
02:31:59,439 --> 02:32:01,760
changes here that we was presented

2995
02:32:01,760 --> 02:32:05,160
tonight is it possible to do a draft

2996
02:32:05,160 --> 02:32:08,520
let's have a visual look at it okay is

2997
02:32:08,520 --> 02:32:11,359
that possible I did that last make sure

2998
02:32:11,359 --> 02:32:14,520
our numbers are correct there yes why we

2999
02:32:14,520 --> 02:32:16,600
go through it then that be niest go

3000
02:32:16,600 --> 02:32:19,000
through yeah let's go

3001
02:32:19,000 --> 02:32:21,120
through cuz we weren't necessarily

3002
02:32:21,120 --> 02:32:22,840
making decisions about these changes we

3003
02:32:22,840 --> 02:32:25,399
were just discussing unless um Friday

3004
02:32:25,399 --> 02:32:26,840
we're going to make the decisions right

3005
02:32:26,840 --> 02:32:29,560
unless um Mr Williams has any suggestion

3006
02:32:29,560 --> 02:32:33,040
to move ahead with these changes or to

3007
02:32:33,040 --> 02:32:36,120
just submit these changes let's look at

3008
02:32:36,120 --> 02:32:40,910
the

3009
02:32:40,920 --> 02:32:46,319
draft I'm not the only one here so we're a Comm committee together so

3010
02:32:46,319 --> 02:32:48,520
whatever you recommend um so I'd

3011
02:32:48,520 --> 02:32:50,680
recommend proceeding with the changes as

3012
02:32:50,680 --> 02:32:53,439
we identified in this 2024 proposed

3013
02:32:53,439 --> 02:32:56,840
budget and everyone shell and then come

3014
02:32:56,840 --> 02:32:58,200
back on

3015
02:32:58,200 --> 02:33:11,309
Friday can we just go through the yes please all right

3016
02:33:11,319 --> 02:33:13,840
so well can I ask procedurally what are

3017
02:33:13,840 --> 02:33:15,160
you looking to

3018
02:33:15,160 --> 02:33:17,520
do I thought you going make the

3019
02:33:17,520 --> 02:33:18,960
decisions tonight we could have

3020
02:33:18,960 --> 02:33:21,840
legislation prepared for Friday say

3021
02:33:21,840 --> 02:33:24,160
you're going to come

3022
02:33:24,160 --> 02:33:26,359
in

3023
02:33:26,359 --> 02:33:30,200
make conversation review discussions

3024
02:33:30,200 --> 02:33:31,720
that we're going to have to break and

3025
02:33:31,720 --> 02:33:33,640
actually draft the

3026
02:33:33,640 --> 02:33:37,319
legislation it out and your Friday

3027
02:33:37,319 --> 02:33:40,000
schedule your Friday schedule does not

3028
02:33:40,000 --> 02:33:44,870
build much morale from

3029
02:33:44,880 --> 02:33:46,720
departments so so we'll have to go

3030
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:49,319
through these we have to make decisions

3031
02:33:49,319 --> 02:33:51,640
and then if we we probably will need to

3032
02:33:51,640 --> 02:33:53,840
look at that other sheet if that's one

3033
02:33:53,840 --> 02:33:56,000
of your

3034
02:33:56,000 --> 02:33:58,200
recommendations what other sheet the

3035
02:33:58,200 --> 02:34:00,800
Staffing one that I didn't Staffing one

3036
02:34:00,800 --> 02:34:02,720
with me

3037
02:34:02,720 --> 02:34:05,160
but go ahead please based on whatever

3038
02:34:05,160 --> 02:34:07,720
you're going to be proposing change wise

3039
02:34:07,720 --> 02:34:08,359
there's going to have to be a

3040
02:34:08,359 --> 02:34:10,279
determination on whether that increases

3041
02:34:10,279 --> 02:34:13,160
the budget decreases the budget so that

3042
02:34:13,160 --> 02:34:15,080
new change

3043
02:34:15,080 --> 02:34:19,830
accordingly

3044
02:34:19,840 --> 02:34:22,319
so you guys would probably have to rerun

3045
02:34:22,319 --> 02:34:27,269
a budget

3046
02:34:27,279 --> 02:34:29,720
tonight well I was not going to ask him

3047
02:34:29,720 --> 02:34:31,520
to do it

3048
02:34:31,520 --> 02:34:35,080
tonight numbers that they can do

3049
02:34:35,080 --> 02:34:37,880
it and then we just have to ourselves

3050
02:34:37,880 --> 02:34:40,240
before back I thought you would have

3051
02:34:40,240 --> 02:34:42,760
consensus tonight we would formalize it

3052
02:34:42,760 --> 02:34:47,600
tomorrow and then be able to do it

3053
02:34:47,600 --> 02:34:51,000
Friday or you know the other

3054
02:34:51,000 --> 02:34:53,560
suggestion is you know to move it to

3055
02:34:53,560 --> 02:34:56,880
Monday night to the regular scheduled

3056
02:34:56,880 --> 02:35:00,560
dat and I don't know what the

3057
02:35:00,560 --> 02:35:05,240
arrangements are for C Farley's uh

3058
02:35:05,240 --> 02:35:08,040
father you that might be a factor you

3059
02:35:08,040 --> 02:35:11,160
know I asked today and I they haven't

3060
02:35:11,160 --> 02:35:14,990
made them

3061
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:19,030
yet

3062
02:35:19,040 --> 02:35:21,479
so that's case let

3063
02:35:21,479 --> 02:35:25,040
um move forward with the discussion on

3064
02:35:25,040 --> 02:35:27,439
the changes and that was

3065
02:35:27,439 --> 02:35:30,520
discussed and then we can um provide

3066
02:35:30,520 --> 02:35:32,359
that number to Mr

3067
02:35:32,359 --> 02:35:35,840
Ferrari and then we can give him an

3068
02:35:35,840 --> 02:35:37,960
opportunity to work on the draft and

3069
02:35:37,960 --> 02:35:42,479
see how the the D is

3070
02:35:42,479 --> 02:35:47,439
looking did we need to go into executive

3071
02:35:47,439 --> 02:35:50,120
affirmative action yes we kind of

3072
02:35:50,120 --> 02:35:52,720
skipped over that a little bit those two

3073
02:35:52,720 --> 02:35:55,160
positions you mentioned it I didn't know

3074
02:35:55,160 --> 02:35:57,319
yeah so wouldn't that be the same would

3075
02:35:57,319 --> 02:35:59,000
that be then the same in terms of these

3076
02:35:59,000 --> 02:36:00,760
other positions that Mr mudar just

3077
02:36:00,760 --> 02:36:07,000
brought up no a a general discussion Rel Personnel

3078
02:36:07,000 --> 02:36:08,880
speci that would be

3079
02:36:08,880 --> 02:36:12,399
a conceivably a fairly long

3080
02:36:12,399 --> 02:36:14,560
discussion which one

3081
02:36:14,560 --> 02:36:17,600
would the the you have oh okay but you

3082
02:36:17,600 --> 02:36:22,429
the affirmative

3083
02:36:22,439 --> 02:36:24,640
action you need

3084
02:36:24,640 --> 02:36:27,000
them we need to go

3085
02:36:27,000 --> 02:36:29,680
so let's go take the session discuss

3086
02:36:29,680 --> 02:36:31,800
Thea action St and then come back out

3087
02:36:31,800 --> 02:36:34,279
and move forward with what was discussed

3088
02:36:34,279 --> 02:36:37,160
here in on the recommendation

3089
02:36:37,160 --> 02:36:40,120
for to move forward with a draft so we

3090
02:36:40,120 --> 02:36:42,200
can have something ready for

3091
02:36:42,200 --> 02:36:46,200
Friday um so we need a motion to go into

3092
02:36:46,200 --> 02:36:47,640
executive

3093
02:36:47,640 --> 02:36:50,960
session second well prer be done the

3094
02:36:50,960 --> 02:36:52,920
other way around all in

3095
02:36:52,920 --> 02:36:56,240
favor I'm sorry they were to if you were

3096
02:36:56,240 --> 02:36:57,760
to go through the numbers

3097
02:36:57,760 --> 02:37:00,160
first you can give it to Anthony and

3098
02:37:00,160 --> 02:37:02,920
Derek right and then they can start I

3099
02:37:02,920 --> 02:37:05,240
think crunching some things and then if

3100
02:37:05,240 --> 02:37:07,560
you want to go to session to discuss the

3101
02:37:07,560 --> 02:37:10,399
other piece which is not related yes

3102
02:37:10,399 --> 02:37:12,479
directly to the budget you can do the

3103
02:37:12,479 --> 02:37:14,520
discussion while they're trying to

3104
02:37:14,520 --> 02:37:18,000
update the figures that makes

3105
02:37:18,000 --> 02:37:22,910
sense either way it's

3106
02:37:22,920 --> 02:37:26,040
fine one you have to raise for

3107
02:37:26,040 --> 02:37:31,120
the uh staff for Council 16% so you're

3108
02:37:31,120 --> 02:37:34,840
making 14,100 I believe right yes and

3109
02:37:34,840 --> 02:37:37,319
you want to go to

3110
02:37:37,319 --> 02:37:40,520
16356 um I think the total amount the

3111
02:37:40,520 --> 02:37:43,080
increase at 16% it would go up to it's

3112
02:37:43,080 --> 02:37:46,479
budget at 987 right yeah

3113
02:37:46,479 --> 02:37:51,120
114 192 that's right that yeah well

3114
02:37:51,120 --> 02:37:53,000
that's also

3115
02:37:53,000 --> 02:37:56,439
incorrect only four members the city

3116
02:37:56,439 --> 02:37:59,160
council would be eligible for pay raise

3117
02:37:59,160 --> 02:38:02,319
now if you can't raise salary during the

3118
02:38:02,319 --> 02:38:06,120
term of office so three members would

3119
02:38:06,120 --> 02:38:09,240
then be eligible in two more

3120
02:38:09,240 --> 02:38:12,760
years so that number does not go up that

3121
02:38:12,760 --> 02:38:15,880
full amount Mr cling what's your opinion

3122
02:38:15,880 --> 02:38:17,840
legal opinion I actually I agree with

3123
02:38:17,840 --> 02:38:20,240
that I think there's um there's case Law

3124
02:38:20,240 --> 02:38:21,600
related to that I don't know if it's

3125
02:38:21,600 --> 02:38:24,840
directly in statute I think that's right

3126
02:38:24,840 --> 02:38:28,240
um I I think you the legislature has

3127
02:38:28,240 --> 02:38:30,000
addressed and Court have addressed this

3128
02:38:30,000 --> 02:38:33,160
it would be staggered based on what

3129
02:38:33,160 --> 02:38:36,680
we've done in the past when put spot

3130
02:38:36,680 --> 02:38:38,240
when we did an increase for you a couple

3131
02:38:38,240 --> 02:38:41,359
years ago you took it in the for year

3132
02:38:41,359 --> 02:38:44,960
time but it was passed at the end of my

3133
02:38:44,960 --> 02:38:52,870
term it was it

3134
02:38:52,880 --> 02:38:55,439
right again it's inconsistent with what

3135
02:38:55,439 --> 02:38:57,319
the statute says you know you're going

3136
02:38:57,319 --> 02:39:00,880
to do what you want it's not

3137
02:39:00,880 --> 02:39:04,479
necessarily what I would recommend to so

3138
02:39:04,479 --> 02:39:09,269
here forward forward to working with you

3139
02:39:09,279 --> 02:39:11,000
yeah

3140
02:39:11,000 --> 02:39:14,319
so so which one are we starting with we

3141
02:39:14,319 --> 02:39:18,310
starting with that

3142
02:39:18,320 --> 02:39:19,920
[Music]

3143
02:39:19,920 --> 02:39:23,840
there's Cas out there I can verify it um

3144
02:39:23,840 --> 02:39:27,640
I don't have it you know so can you do

3145
02:39:27,640 --> 02:39:29,479
that for us Friday we'll carry this

3146
02:39:29,479 --> 02:39:32,760
number 114 492 we

3147
02:39:32,760 --> 02:39:42,399
can I'm not in favor okay way and then obviously then case

3148
02:39:42,399 --> 02:39:44,359
law supports it that becomes a policy

3149
02:39:44,359 --> 02:39:47,560
question for the council yeah Mr Willi

3150
02:39:47,560 --> 02:39:50,910
are you okay to move

3151
02:39:50,920 --> 02:39:54,000
forward move each one individually I

3152
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:57,710
think we're discussing them

3153
02:39:57,720 --> 02:39:59,920
individually so the answer

3154
02:39:59,920 --> 02:40:02,760
is I his question was are we going one

3155
02:40:02,760 --> 02:40:05,240
by one have to move them individually we

3156
02:40:05,240 --> 02:40:06,200
just have to

3157
02:40:06,200 --> 02:40:09,200
agree confirming them okay we're not

3158
02:40:09,200 --> 02:40:13,319
voting yes you it's going to be I would

3159
02:40:13,319 --> 02:40:15,800
do everything together as one package so

3160
02:40:15,800 --> 02:40:17,840
you're not individually voting on each

3161
02:40:17,840 --> 02:40:19,399
separate line

3162
02:40:19,399 --> 02:40:21,880
okay if that makes sense because there

3163
02:40:21,880 --> 02:40:23,080
going to be other adjustments that will

3164
02:40:23,080 --> 02:40:28,630
have to be made if things don't go

3165
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:31,359
through so we need you do each

3166
02:40:31,359 --> 02:40:34,479
individual line right and some things go

3167
02:40:34,479 --> 02:40:36,840
through and some things don't go through

3168
02:40:36,840 --> 02:40:38,439
it's going to affect the other

3169
02:40:38,439 --> 02:40:40,680
adjustments you'll have to make or that

3170
02:40:40,680 --> 02:40:42,439
Mr Ferrari and G will have to make as it

3171
02:40:42,439 --> 02:40:44,520
applies to

3172
02:40:44,520 --> 02:40:46,240
revenue

3173
02:40:46,240 --> 02:40:48,399
next then you would have to vote on the

3174
02:40:48,399 --> 02:40:50,960
next the the revenue change on on the

3175
02:40:50,960 --> 02:40:53,590
back side of

3176
02:40:53,600 --> 02:40:56,279
it so so let's go through all the item

3177
02:40:56,279 --> 02:40:58,160
the committee is an agreement majority

3178
02:40:58,160 --> 02:41:00,040
in agreement we move the item we'll just

3179
02:41:00,040 --> 02:41:02,640
mark it up and move forward that item if

3180
02:41:02,640 --> 02:41:03,720
not we

3181
02:41:03,720 --> 02:41:07,640
just that the back corner so the next

3182
02:41:07,640 --> 02:41:10,910
item is a propos

3183
02:41:10,920 --> 02:41:14,439
um A110

3184
02:41:14,439 --> 02:41:16,120
d44

3185
02:41:16,120 --> 02:41:19,160
and propos to decrease the outside legal

3186
02:41:19,160 --> 02:41:27,990
service by$ 10,000 and bring that actual

3187
02:41:28,000 --> 02:41:33,720
$15,000 yes I'm I'm I am confused I'm sorry so

3188
02:41:33,720 --> 02:41:35,200
you two because you're the finance

3189
02:41:35,200 --> 02:41:36,760
committee are the only ones that can

3190
02:41:36,760 --> 02:41:38,319
give input into this right now no you

3191
02:41:38,319 --> 02:41:40,760
can give input but the voting to agre to

3192
02:41:40,760 --> 02:41:41,800
move it

3193
02:41:41,800 --> 02:41:46,640
power us isn't work

3194
02:41:46,640 --> 02:41:49,200
and then basically on Friday we would

3195
02:41:49,200 --> 02:41:52,600
just say no we don't accept those

3196
02:41:52,600 --> 02:41:54,960
changes it's like any other thing that

3197
02:41:54,960 --> 02:41:56,520
would come out of committee it's going

3198
02:41:56,520 --> 02:41:59,439
to be voted on by the committee and then

3199
02:41:59,439 --> 02:42:01,319
it's going to have to you know either be

3200
02:42:01,319 --> 02:42:03,680
voted up or voted down by the council at

3201
02:42:03,680 --> 02:42:10,429
full council meeting

3202
02:42:10,439 --> 02:42:13,000
gotcha you good with that yeah okay I'm

3203
02:42:13,000 --> 02:42:15,920
good with this 8 12 10

3204
02:42:15,920 --> 02:42:21,640
-00 yes I'm okay with that too $

3205
02:42:21,640 --> 02:42:26,000
6,610 say it again-

3206
02:42:26,000 --> 02:42:29,790
6,610 yeah it will be

3207
02:42:29,800 --> 02:42:35,800
5739 the next one uh is a31 D100 yes

3208
02:42:35,800 --> 02:42:39,120
plus 2,000 I'm okay with

3209
02:42:39,120 --> 02:42:41,000
that

3210
02:42:41,000 --> 02:42:44,359
8355 100 the

3211
02:42:44,359 --> 02:42:46,240
Assessor

3212
02:42:46,240 --> 02:42:51,150
93,000 plus

3213
02:42:51,160 --> 02:42:55,630
$1,064 A14

3214
02:42:55,640 --> 02:42:57,920
120-100 there were no notes on this this

3215
02:42:57,920 --> 02:42:59,720
was just a

3216
02:42:59,720 --> 02:43:06,330
discussion par

3217
02:43:06,340 --> 02:43:11,349
[Music]

3218
02:43:11,359 --> 02:43:14,279
legal I thought someone had a figure for

3219
02:43:14,279 --> 02:43:18,100
what it's

3220
02:43:18,100 --> 02:43:21,389
[Music]

3221
02:43:21,399 --> 02:43:23,399
yeahor there was a number that was given

3222
02:43:23,399 --> 02:43:25,240
was like

3223
02:43:25,240 --> 02:43:29,200
$4,030 that was for IPs was for IPs okay

3224
02:43:29,200 --> 02:43:31,760
so we don't have a number for thisp

3225
02:43:31,760 --> 02:43:33,720
Okay you

3226
02:43:33,720 --> 02:43:36,040
Okay the next s we talk about the

3227
02:43:36,040 --> 02:43:37,240
affirmative action and we go in

3228
02:43:37,240 --> 02:43:40,920
executive session that MH we the

3229
02:43:40,920 --> 02:43:44,080
discussion happened on the utilities mhm

3230
02:43:44,080 --> 02:43:46,240
the next one is a

3231
02:43:46,240 --> 02:43:49,840
1989 D4 95

3232
02:43:49,840 --> 02:43:52,399
a-2 out of

3233
02:43:52,399 --> 02:43:54,520
miscellaneous they asked us to remove

3234
02:43:54,520 --> 02:43:57,120
the recruitment fund

3235
02:43:57,120 --> 02:44:02,150
15,000 are you okay with that Mr

3236
02:44:02,160 --> 02:44:04,000
Williams nothing is going to happen

3237
02:44:04,000 --> 02:44:06,319
there was a question on the contingency

3238
02:44:06,319 --> 02:44:07,880
that's why that was under there there's

3239
02:44:07,880 --> 02:44:10,200
nothing moving from the contingency that

3240
02:44:10,200 --> 02:44:11,319
is

3241
02:44:11,319 --> 02:44:13,880
a Mr ferar going to look into that and

3242
02:44:13,880 --> 02:44:16,600
pass will make U

3243
02:44:16,600 --> 02:44:19,160
adjustment or correction

3244
02:44:19,160 --> 02:44:21,840
which I would say I'm open to transition

3245
02:44:21,840 --> 02:44:24,560
recruitment pardon me transitioning it

3246
02:44:24,560 --> 02:44:26,990
to

3247
02:44:27,000 --> 02:44:31,120
recruitment rame that okay instead of

3248
02:44:31,120 --> 02:44:34,000
taking the 15K out of the budget yes so

3249
02:44:34,000 --> 02:44:36,240
we'll just

3250
02:44:36,240 --> 02:44:39,680
um he wants to keep keep it 15 but let

3251
02:44:39,680 --> 02:44:44,240
it remain in the recruitment fund it's

3252
02:44:44,240 --> 02:44:47,670
Ren it okay

3253
02:44:47,680 --> 02:44:50,640
and the next one um

3254
02:44:50,640 --> 02:44:52,439
a1989

3255
02:44:52,439 --> 02:44:56,640
499 ARA the senior centor we are

3256
02:44:56,640 --> 02:44:59,319
bringing that to

3257
02:44:59,319 --> 02:45:02,160
$60,000 and Mr we're going to ask that

3258
02:45:02,160 --> 02:45:05,359
you adjust descriptional line so account

3259
02:45:05,359 --> 02:45:10,160
for all four Senor Center to include

3260
02:45:10,160 --> 02:45:14,080
connect Center

3261
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:16,560
and

3262
02:45:16,560 --> 02:45:18,240
that's increase of

3263
02:45:18,240 --> 02:45:21,399
15 it's a senior cent of funding isn't

3264
02:45:21,399 --> 02:45:24,200
that was that was that's it it's called

3265
02:45:24,200 --> 02:45:32,830
Senior Center Program

3266
02:45:32,840 --> 02:45:35,800
yeah we're good with that y I'm good

3267
02:45:35,800 --> 02:45:38,240
with that the next one is

3268
02:45:38,240 --> 02:45:41,120
83122

3269
02:45:41,120 --> 02:45:45,160
d112 we are asking to only Frey line to

3270
02:45:45,160 --> 02:45:46,479
by

3271
02:45:46,479 --> 02:45:49,750
45

3272
02:45:49,760 --> 02:45:54,190
6,161 based on the

3273
02:45:54,200 --> 02:45:56,920
2023 yes you have it that's a decrease

3274
02:45:56,920 --> 02:45:59,680
of 500,000 from the original from the

3275
02:45:59,680 --> 02:46:01,840
original request original

3276
02:46:01,840 --> 02:46:04,600
request yeah I I just want to for the

3277
02:46:04,600 --> 02:46:07,840
record say that I don't agree with

3278
02:46:07,840 --> 02:46:10,479
that Mr William you okay with

3279
02:46:10,479 --> 02:46:16,000
this the next one is 8 3123 1112

3280
02:46:16,000 --> 02:46:20,640
and they asking May to increase the 2023

3281
02:46:20,640 --> 02:46:24,200
time line by 105,000 to bring that to

3282
02:46:24,200 --> 02:46:25,439
the

3283
02:46:25,439 --> 02:46:28,800
2024 line of 880,000

3284
02:46:28,800 --> 02:46:31,319
that's

3285
02:46:31,319 --> 02:46:34,479
a, 110,000 Direction in public safety is

3286
02:46:34,479 --> 02:46:38,040
to cut over a,1

3287
02:46:38,040 --> 02:46:40,720
100,000 out of those things that's what

3288
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:42,720
you're suggesting what I would ask you

3289
02:46:42,720 --> 02:46:45,920
to do also is because the p PBA contract

3290
02:46:45,920 --> 02:46:48,520
is up at the end of this year so tonight

3291
02:46:48,520 --> 02:46:50,760
when you go home send me the number that

3292
02:46:50,760 --> 02:46:57,550
I can negotiate with the

3293
02:46:57,560 --> 02:47:00,200
PBA again I think that this is kind of

3294
02:47:00,200 --> 02:47:01,880
misleading I just have to say because

3295
02:47:01,880 --> 02:47:03,319
you're saying is it's word choice you're

3296
02:47:03,319 --> 02:47:05,319
saying increase instead of decreasing

3297
02:47:05,319 --> 02:47:07,760
what you're really doing is decreasing

3298
02:47:07,760 --> 02:47:10,160
over I don't work with everybody you

3299
02:47:10,160 --> 02:47:12,160
know any of these decision should take

3300
02:47:12,160 --> 02:47:15,560
some CRI and for some people like it the

3301
02:47:15,560 --> 02:47:17,439
public discussion over Public Safety

3302
02:47:17,439 --> 02:47:20,000
last time so now you're calling it an

3303
02:47:20,000 --> 02:47:21,800
increase over last year but it's really

3304
02:47:21,800 --> 02:47:23,760
a decrease over what the expected

3305
02:47:23,760 --> 02:47:27,630
expenses are going to be for

3306
02:47:27,640 --> 02:47:29,200
2024

3307
02:47:29,200 --> 02:47:31,560
agreed and I think we should continue to

3308
02:47:31,560 --> 02:47:36,319
factor in what the spending has been to to date and so know looking at that

3309
02:47:36,319 --> 02:47:37,920
because when when I saw these

3310
02:47:37,920 --> 02:47:39,760
suggestions I definitely looked at that

3311
02:47:39,760 --> 02:47:41,120
it seems like we're going to be within

3312
02:47:41,120 --> 02:47:44,080
that so um you know it's not just for me

3313
02:47:44,080 --> 02:47:45,800
anyway I can speak speak for me it's not

3314
02:47:45,800 --> 02:47:48,160
just a random like um thought process

3315
02:47:48,160 --> 02:47:49,840
it's like let me see what we've done so

3316
02:47:49,840 --> 02:47:52,240
far where we are and does this look like

3317
02:47:52,240 --> 02:47:55,279
um are within the the amount that's

3318
02:47:55,279 --> 02:48:00,469
being suggested so that's how I look at

3319
02:48:00,479 --> 02:48:03,359
this OT for

3320
02:48:03,359 --> 02:48:11,790
me I was going to ask if any had a

3321
02:48:11,800 --> 02:48:15,560
discussion are you okay okay that's

3322
02:48:15,560 --> 02:48:17,439
$110,000

3323
02:48:17,439 --> 02:48:19,840
decrease less than what was asked less

3324
02:48:19,840 --> 02:48:25,389
than it was

3325
02:48:25,399 --> 02:48:28,319
asked the next item is

3326
02:48:28,319 --> 02:48:30,160
83412

3327
02:48:30,160 --> 02:48:33,439
d112 by

3328
02:48:33,439 --> 02:48:36,870
F and this one here is a

3329
02:48:36,870 --> 02:48:38,960
[Music]

3330
02:48:38,960 --> 02:48:41,880
$500,000 reduction against the proposed

3331
02:48:41,880 --> 02:48:46,910
budget bringing this line to a million 7

3332
02:48:46,920 --> 02:48:49,319
7,000 again I go on the record of

3333
02:48:49,319 --> 02:48:51,880
protesting that one as well I'd rather

3334
02:48:51,880 --> 02:48:53,600
keep it at what the mayor's projected

3335
02:48:53,600 --> 02:48:55,479
budget

3336
02:48:55,479 --> 02:48:59,120
is any other question on

3337
02:48:59,120 --> 02:49:02,600
this are you okay with this yes

3338
02:49:02,600 --> 02:49:08,830
good the police review board a 3614

3339
02:49:08,840 --> 02:49:11,680
d404 the ask is to increase the fees of

3340
02:49:11,680 --> 02:49:14,960
service by 10,000 and reduce the outside

3341
02:49:14,960 --> 02:49:20,910
legal council by

3342
02:49:20,920 --> 02:49:23,160
10,000 question on

3343
02:49:23,160 --> 02:49:26,160
this I mean I'll reiterate that I don't

3344
02:49:26,160 --> 02:49:27,439
think they need the outside legal

3345
02:49:27,439 --> 02:49:30,760
councel at all um but I do appreciate

3346
02:49:30,760 --> 02:49:32,560
the idea of having enough money in the

3347
02:49:32,560 --> 02:49:34,920
training line for two people to attend

3348
02:49:34,920 --> 02:49:40,790
the conference plus the fee for the

3349
02:49:40,800 --> 02:49:43,439
membership but again you guys are voting

3350
02:49:43,439 --> 02:49:45,800
but just wanted to be the record so

3351
02:49:45,800 --> 02:49:47,680
you're suggesting just to be clear that

3352
02:49:47,680 --> 02:49:49,720
we just get rid of the outside the

3353
02:49:49,720 --> 02:49:51,600
balance of the outside Council and just

3354
02:49:51,600 --> 02:49:53,800
I don't think you need $25,000 there for

3355
02:49:53,800 --> 02:49:58,000
legal counsel and so if the um the

3356
02:49:58,000 --> 02:50:00,640
$5,000 for the

3357
02:50:00,640 --> 02:50:03,399
uh uh what do you call it I think it's

3358
02:50:03,399 --> 02:50:07,560
training right on the on the budget so

3359
02:50:07,560 --> 02:50:10,479
adding 10 to it was maybe make that one

3360
02:50:10,479 --> 02:50:14,319
um 15 maybe make that eight instead of

3361
02:50:14,319 --> 02:50:15,920
five

3362
02:50:15,920 --> 02:50:18,720
the suggestion was to to increase it by

3363
02:50:18,720 --> 02:50:20,840
10 to make it

3364
02:50:20,840 --> 02:50:23,479
15 I don't think they need that

3365
02:50:23,479 --> 02:50:25,840
much well this year's training is like

3366
02:50:25,840 --> 02:50:28,720
3,000 maybe four you said three but I I

3367
02:50:28,720 --> 02:50:31,040
was told four and if two people

3368
02:50:31,040 --> 02:50:35,000
conceivably went plus the plus the fees

3369
02:50:35,000 --> 02:50:37,120
so yeah I can't remember how much the Fe

3370
02:50:37,120 --> 02:50:41,190
I'm sorry I can't remember how much the

3371
02:50:41,200 --> 02:50:43,560
membership go ahead please so I would

3372
02:50:43,560 --> 02:50:45,920
say increasing the the um fees for the

3373
02:50:45,920 --> 02:50:48,800
training 15 and based on the mayor and

3374
02:50:48,800 --> 02:50:51,600
Mr Colon's um input about the outside

3375
02:50:51,600 --> 02:50:54,560
Council out you moving that remaining

3376
02:50:54,560 --> 02:50:57,040
balance to

3377
02:50:57,040 --> 02:51:01,349
the law department or

3378
02:51:01,359 --> 02:51:04,000
just yeah I'm fine to increase the P of

3379
02:51:04,000 --> 02:51:07,760
service to 15,000 and remove the outside

3380
02:51:07,760 --> 02:51:13,560
counil and that will happen on the other one also that we have um

3381
02:51:13,560 --> 02:51:16,840
there's another one uh city

3382
02:51:16,840 --> 02:51:19,640
council that's that's a plus 10,000

3383
02:51:19,640 --> 02:51:22,349
minus

3384
02:51:22,359 --> 02:51:25,080
25,000 the other outside Council was for

3385
02:51:25,080 --> 02:51:27,640
city council that I also

3386
02:51:27,640 --> 02:51:30,640
thought I don't know where that is oh

3387
02:51:30,640 --> 02:51:33,239
it's not on your list it's on my

3388
02:51:33,239 --> 02:51:36,200
Z okay so on this

3389
02:51:36,200 --> 02:51:40,510
item 836

3390
02:51:40,520 --> 02:51:43,000
14-404 the only increase are is the Fe

3391
02:51:43,000 --> 02:51:45,600
of Serv is going up to ,000 and we

3392
02:51:45,600 --> 02:51:47,600
subtracting

3393
02:51:47,600 --> 02:51:51,120
25,000 cor

3394
02:51:51,120 --> 02:51:54,760
that's yes we removing the outside legal

3395
02:51:54,760 --> 02:52:00,269
council Zer

3396
02:52:00,279 --> 02:52:03,720
zero Mr Williams you good with that yes

3397
02:52:03,720 --> 02:52:09,070
okay I'm good with

3398
02:52:09,080 --> 02:52:12,800
that the next item here is

3399
02:52:12,800 --> 02:52:15,080
a5010 100

3400
02:52:15,080 --> 02:52:22,269
street department

3401
02:52:22,279 --> 02:52:24,399
manager that's the that's the guy with

3402
02:52:24,399 --> 02:52:25,479
the

3403
02:52:25,479 --> 02:52:28,840
waste 52 and 52 52

3404
02:52:28,840 --> 02:52:34,190
[Music]

3405
02:52:34,200 --> 02:52:37,399
52 no I mean I just you know question

3406
02:52:37,399 --> 02:52:39,560
again the 14% increase I understand what

3407
02:52:39,560 --> 02:52:43,439
you're saying um you

3408
02:52:43,439 --> 02:52:47,349
know

3409
02:52:47,359 --> 02:52:50,520
go ahead please yeah Mr Leon has the um

3410
02:52:50,520 --> 02:52:52,479
ability in this gentleman or whoever's

3411
02:52:52,479 --> 02:52:55,520
going to do the job uh comining 52 and

3412
02:52:55,520 --> 02:52:57,520
52,000 and then get rid of a position

3413
02:52:57,520 --> 02:53:01,040
for 80 some OD th000 I think it's a good

3414
02:53:01,040 --> 02:53:03,439
deal only if a person could manage it

3415
02:53:03,439 --> 02:53:07,359
also um and then we have as I understand

3416
02:53:07,359 --> 02:53:08,680
it because the mayor always says we do

3417
02:53:08,680 --> 02:53:10,359
more with less there are other people

3418
02:53:10,359 --> 02:53:13,160
who are doing multiple um things and and

3419
02:53:13,160 --> 02:53:14,640
it's I'm not saying there should be no

3420
02:53:14,640 --> 02:53:16,960
increase but I believe that 14% is a

3421
02:53:16,960 --> 02:53:20,190
significant

3422
02:53:20,200 --> 02:53:22,520
increase I don't get to vote either but

3423
02:53:22,520 --> 02:53:25,120
there's my

3424
02:53:25,130 --> 02:53:28,750
[Music]

3425
02:53:28,760 --> 02:53:31,760
opinion M suggestion or maybe there's a

3426
02:53:31,760 --> 02:53:35,110
compromise and move

3427
02:53:35,120 --> 02:53:37,080
forward I would say I'd be open to a

3428
02:53:37,080 --> 02:53:38,720
compromise because I understand both

3429
02:53:38,720 --> 02:53:40,920
sides I definitely feel the same way

3430
02:53:40,920 --> 02:53:43,359
with the 4% increase I being in line

3431
02:53:43,359 --> 02:53:45,600
with accepting those du as a manager

3432
02:53:45,600 --> 02:53:48,720
however I do understand what Miss uh dor

3433
02:53:48,720 --> 02:53:50,160
was also mentioning with that cost

3434
02:53:50,160 --> 02:53:52,720
savings don't entirely agree with it I

3435
02:53:52,720 --> 02:53:55,590
we're trying to make a

3436
02:53:55,600 --> 02:53:58,120
concession so you are in agreement to

3437
02:53:58,120 --> 02:54:00,720
this

3438
02:54:00,720 --> 02:54:03,200
4% what do that make it in other words

3439
02:54:03,200 --> 02:54:05,720
the person's going to be doing two

3440
02:54:05,720 --> 02:54:07,680
jobs

3441
02:54:07,680 --> 02:54:12,279
what okay four the 4% would be what

3442
02:54:12,279 --> 02:54:15,239
45968 we you talking about 40 4% on top

3443
02:54:15,239 --> 02:54:15,960
of

3444
02:54:15,960 --> 02:54:18,120
that I'm sorry maybe I'm

3445
02:54:18,120 --> 02:54:19,479
misunderstanding what you're saying is

3446
02:54:19,479 --> 02:54:21,239
it 4% on top of the

3447
02:54:21,239 --> 02:54:24,720
88400 no we took that one out that is

3448
02:54:24,720 --> 02:54:27,720
way back that's the one there it was

3449
02:54:27,720 --> 02:54:30,600
45,000 something and moving up to

3450
02:54:30,600 --> 02:54:33,640
52,000 so right but eliminating the 80

3451
02:54:33,640 --> 02:54:35,720
something th000

3452
02:54:35,720 --> 02:54:38,000
position but originally it was taking

3453
02:54:38,000 --> 02:54:41,000
the 88400 I think it was giving it a 4%

3454
02:54:41,000 --> 02:54:45,880
increase 88400 uh 91 936 right that's

3455
02:54:45,880 --> 02:54:47,239
what it originally was even though they

3456
02:54:47,239 --> 02:54:48,720
changed the name it's really the same

3457
02:54:48,720 --> 02:54:50,800
dollar amount with a 4% increase as what

3458
02:54:50,800 --> 02:54:52,720
it ended up being but now because they

3459
02:54:52,720 --> 02:54:54,760
just took it and divide half but now

3460
02:54:54,760 --> 02:54:56,880
they want to raise it to

3461
02:54:56,880 --> 02:54:59,040
52,000 right from

3462
02:54:59,040 --> 02:55:03,680
40 I crusted out but 45 96

3463
02:55:03,680 --> 02:55:09,150
yeah $ 6,3

3464
02:55:09,160 --> 02:55:13,200
$632 Plus

3465
02:55:13,200 --> 02:55:16,560
88400 plus what no the 88400 is going

3466
02:55:16,560 --> 02:55:23,030
away gone the 88400 is gone it's going

3467
02:55:23,040 --> 02:55:26,239
away the same waste and then the other

3468
02:55:26,239 --> 02:55:32,750
one's on um IET page I find it

3469
02:55:32,760 --> 02:55:36,160
again so what I'm saying here

3470
02:55:36,160 --> 02:55:39,600
3,536 difference what that between the

3471
02:55:39,600 --> 02:55:43,200
88400 and the is it

3472
02:55:43,200 --> 02:55:53,630
91

3473
02:55:53,640 --> 02:55:56,040
936 what's going on

3474
02:55:56,040 --> 02:55:58,800
here you have to open your phone yeah I

3475
02:55:58,800 --> 02:56:01,200
know I'm trying it won't open maybe

3476
02:56:01,200 --> 02:56:04,680
batteries other batteries oh

3477
02:56:04,680 --> 02:56:08,359
it's okay so it's on page 41 that he's

3478
02:56:08,359 --> 02:56:10,920
taking away the director of solid waste

3479
02:56:10,920 --> 02:56:11,960
at

3480
02:56:11,960 --> 02:56:15,279
88339 yeah so you got the 88 and making

3481
02:56:15,279 --> 02:56:17,920
the director I mean taking away the

3482
02:56:17,920 --> 02:56:19,680
title of director Public Works which was

3483
02:56:19,680 --> 02:56:25,150
at 45 something and that would also be

3484
02:56:25,160 --> 02:56:27,720
52 is my

3485
02:56:27,720 --> 02:56:34,710
understanding Sugg yeah over

3486
02:56:34,720 --> 02:56:38,319
104,000 we're taking out two

3487
02:56:38,319 --> 02:56:40,720
positions you're taking out

3488
02:56:40,720 --> 02:56:43,080
88339 and

3489
02:56:43,080 --> 02:56:53,950
88400

3490
02:56:53,960 --> 02:56:58,080
76,000 739 is is uh the amount that

3491
02:56:58,080 --> 02:57:01,750
we're taking out and we're paying

3492
02:57:01,760 --> 02:57:03,920
$4,000 so it's a $

3493
02:57:03,920 --> 02:57:10,309
72,73

3494
02:57:10,319 --> 02:57:13,000
savings so I'd recommend leaving at the

3495
02:57:13,000 --> 02:57:15,040
104,000

3496
02:57:15,040 --> 02:57:17,760
okay all right I'm good with that you

3497
02:57:17,760 --> 02:57:22,080
good with that yep move forward the next

3498
02:57:22,080 --> 02:57:28,710
one a 5132 100 remove fle

3499
02:57:28,720 --> 02:57:29,920
[Applause]

3500
02:57:29,920 --> 02:57:41,030
manager a a 5132 100 minus

3501
02:57:41,040 --> 02:57:43,520
84,000 I suggest that we make note

3502
02:57:43,520 --> 02:57:46,000
please

3503
02:57:46,000 --> 02:57:48,710
right up

3504
02:57:48,720 --> 02:57:53,920
sh any discussion on this will yes I'm

3505
02:57:53,920 --> 02:57:57,200
good this the next item is just a

3506
02:57:57,200 --> 02:58:00,319
discussion peld right I just wanted to

3507
02:58:00,319 --> 02:58:02,399
voice my concerns around that not saying

3508
02:58:02,399 --> 02:58:04,000
the position isn't needed but my

3509
02:58:04,000 --> 02:58:07,279
concerns for the safety of the

3510
02:58:07,279 --> 02:58:11,000
employee go and I would agree with Miss

3511
02:58:11,000 --> 02:58:13,080
Porterfield and I don't think you can

3512
02:58:13,080 --> 02:58:14,800
put cameras in there watch the gentleman

3513
02:58:14,800 --> 02:58:16,560
all night but if something's in place of

3514
02:58:16,560 --> 02:58:19,120
an emergency how we can call or maybe

3515
02:58:19,120 --> 02:58:21,000
check on every hour I don't know but

3516
02:58:21,000 --> 02:58:24,239
again it's a long night um I work a lot

3517
02:58:24,239 --> 02:58:27,040
of overnights at one point so but the

3518
02:58:27,040 --> 02:58:29,399
position I think that Paul raises here

3519
02:58:29,399 --> 02:58:32,630
is very

3520
02:58:32,640 --> 02:58:34,840
important and he indicated the person

3521
02:58:34,840 --> 02:58:36,640
has to work at night because otherwise

3522
02:58:36,640 --> 02:58:38,520
the vehicles are being used or something

3523
02:58:38,520 --> 02:58:41,670
during the

3524
02:58:41,680 --> 02:58:45,920
day move on the next one is Cas 711 100

3525
02:58:45,920 --> 02:58:48,439
direct of parks yeah supposed to just

3526
02:58:48,439 --> 02:58:53,080
increase that by 4% over 2022 salary but

3527
02:58:53,080 --> 02:58:54,880
then we were told that this individual

3528
02:58:54,880 --> 02:58:57,840
is already is already receiving

3529
02:58:57,840 --> 02:59:04,150
$80,000 and $80,000 plus the 4%

3530
02:59:04,160 --> 02:59:07,560
mhm any discussion so that it is

3531
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:10,200
4%

3532
02:59:10,200 --> 02:59:12,279
yes I didn't hear you please so we don't

3533
02:59:12,279 --> 02:59:14,080
do anything okay so we're not do

3534
02:59:14,080 --> 02:59:19,550
anything for this

3535
02:59:19,560 --> 02:59:23,120
item the next one um was a question and

3536
02:59:23,120 --> 02:59:27,359
I think this answer is CSA and the $150

3537
02:59:27,359 --> 02:59:30,950
per week

3538
02:59:30,960 --> 02:59:33,399
cont move on to

3539
02:59:33,399 --> 02:59:38,080
a989 d840 employee drop

3540
02:59:38,080 --> 02:59:40,640
test and I think we discussed this to

3541
02:59:40,640 --> 02:59:42,160
reduce this to

3542
02:59:42,160 --> 02:59:53,389
10,000 mhm

3543
02:59:53,399 --> 02:59:55,200
the next item was G

3544
02:59:55,200 --> 03:00:00,229
81231 and we're good with the

3545
03:00:00,239 --> 03:00:04,040
um the adjusted rate of 65

3546
03:00:04,040 --> 03:00:12,750
968 M then it's Ferrari

3547
03:00:12,760 --> 03:00:15,420
submited over to

3548
03:00:15,420 --> 03:00:17,000
[Music]

3549
03:00:17,000 --> 03:00:21,040
830 5500 yes s

3550
03:00:21,040 --> 03:00:26,840
sir we are good to bump that up to

3551
03:00:26,840 --> 03:00:29,439
93,000 that's plus

3552
03:00:29,439 --> 03:00:33,600
1,64 okay and then we are okay to bomp

3553
03:00:33,600 --> 03:00:37,000
the real property analyst to 54,000

3554
03:00:37,000 --> 03:00:39,040
that's so plus

3555
03:00:39,040 --> 03:00:42,720
244 okay that's a

3556
03:00:42,720 --> 03:00:47,269
lot

3557
03:00:47,279 --> 03:00:49,439
the other item was just we will follow

3558
03:00:49,439 --> 03:00:51,160
that in terms of

3559
03:00:51,160 --> 03:00:53,520
legislation the next item is

3560
03:00:53,520 --> 03:00:56,880
a430 100 payroll man

3561
03:00:56,880 --> 03:00:59,439
iner that's a

3562
03:00:59,439 --> 03:01:03,319
3,735 so we okay to move that to

3563
03:01:03,319 --> 03:01:05,200
60,000

3564
03:01:05,200 --> 03:01:12,630
yes how much was that increase again

3565
03:01:12,640 --> 03:01:15,120
3,735

3566
03:01:15,120 --> 03:01:18,880
the next item a 14411 100 we took that

3567
03:01:18,880 --> 03:01:20,800
out because there

3568
03:01:20,800 --> 03:01:25,479
is there is Staffing and the other

3569
03:01:25,479 --> 03:01:29,680
um Finance like on the public um

3570
03:01:29,680 --> 03:01:32,600
position in a different place yeah which

3571
03:01:32,600 --> 03:01:39,600
one's that that a 1441 100 okay it what

3572
03:01:39,600 --> 03:01:41,680
are you doing like that

3573
03:01:41,680 --> 03:01:53,080
no just a question okay them renaming the um it's a

3574
03:01:53,080 --> 03:01:56,800
recruitment fund we got a cover just

3575
03:01:56,800 --> 03:01:59,000
changing the description the senior

3576
03:01:59,000 --> 03:02:00,720
center we all in agreement to bring that

3577
03:02:00,720 --> 03:02:04,800
up to 60,000 so we're adding $115,000 to

3578
03:02:04,800 --> 03:02:11,229
that line Y we already did

3579
03:02:11,239 --> 03:02:17,590
that already did the cprb too

3580
03:02:17,600 --> 03:02:20,479
so we did remove the police review board

3581
03:02:20,479 --> 03:02:22,720
outside cons

3582
03:02:22,720 --> 03:02:25,000
M are we going to address the city

3583
03:02:25,000 --> 03:02:27,640
council outside Council based on what '

3584
03:02:27,640 --> 03:02:29,319
heard from Mr

3585
03:02:29,319 --> 03:02:34,800
C didn't that down was since we removing

3586
03:02:34,800 --> 03:02:37,040
the police review

3587
03:02:37,040 --> 03:02:39,600
outside has the capacity

3588
03:02:39,600 --> 03:02:42,560
to make that

3589
03:02:42,560 --> 03:02:44,920
high I'm just ping it on the table

3590
03:02:44,920 --> 03:02:47,560
please I would city council I would like

3591
03:02:47,560 --> 03:02:49,000
to for it to remain in the city council

3592
03:02:49,000 --> 03:02:51,840
for another

3593
03:02:51,840 --> 03:02:55,000
okay the 25,000 remain on that line okay

3594
03:02:55,000 --> 03:02:56,920
may I ask why I would say the reasoning

3595
03:02:56,920 --> 03:02:59,760
for the civilian for the civilian wow

3596
03:02:59,760 --> 03:03:02,040
for the civilian police review board as

3597
03:03:02,040 --> 03:03:03,239
they are looking to build up their

3598
03:03:03,239 --> 03:03:05,479
members and go to training uh I think it

3599
03:03:05,479 --> 03:03:07,279
is smarter for them to utilize that

3600
03:03:07,279 --> 03:03:09,319
resource if they should so they're still

3601
03:03:09,319 --> 03:03:11,600
in their infantile stages with trying to

3602
03:03:11,600 --> 03:03:14,000
meet qu I think within our city Council

3603
03:03:14,000 --> 03:03:16,000
we have our seven members we are more

3604
03:03:16,000 --> 03:03:18,040
established and I would like to truly

3605
03:03:18,040 --> 03:03:20,479
trial this for another year but if we

3606
03:03:20,479 --> 03:03:22,000
continue to not use it I'm open to

3607
03:03:22,000 --> 03:03:23,840
removing it in

3608
03:03:23,840 --> 03:03:27,000
2024 or in

3609
03:03:27,000 --> 03:03:29,680
2025 I just again just for the record I

3610
03:03:29,680 --> 03:03:31,239
know I don't have a vote but I think

3611
03:03:31,239 --> 03:03:32,920
that the idea that we have the external

3612
03:03:32,920 --> 03:03:35,680
legal council of if we need external

3613
03:03:35,680 --> 03:03:38,200
legal counsel that there's money in the

3614
03:03:38,200 --> 03:03:41,840
um Law Department line for external

3615
03:03:41,840 --> 03:03:45,040
legal services that would cover

3616
03:03:45,040 --> 03:03:47,920
that but I don't have a vote so I just

3617
03:03:47,920 --> 03:03:50,040
want to go on the record I say as

3618
03:03:50,040 --> 03:03:51,560
council members were making concessions

3619
03:03:51,560 --> 03:03:59,950
my concession was dis please read

3620
03:03:59,960 --> 03:04:05,150
for any other question on

3621
03:04:05,160 --> 03:04:09,840
this yeah we'll keep it and see I'm

3622
03:04:09,840 --> 03:04:10,880
going to

3623
03:04:10,880 --> 03:04:14,399
keep the next item was is um

3624
03:04:14,399 --> 03:04:20,070
G 81201 121 and that one is

3625
03:04:20,080 --> 03:04:21,960
good go

3626
03:04:21,960 --> 03:04:26,840
back I just want to add one a 8160 100

3627
03:04:26,840 --> 03:04:29,880
the other half of the street manager

3628
03:04:29,880 --> 03:04:35,600
uhhuh uh it's you know plus $632 to

3629
03:04:35,600 --> 03:04:38,479
52,000 that yeah yeah they you because

3630
03:04:38,479 --> 03:04:41,399
you passed it as as 104 in total as

3631
03:04:41,399 --> 03:04:44,080
opposed to splitting it out

3632
03:04:44,080 --> 03:04:48,040
yeah it split out it split out fine so

3633
03:04:48,040 --> 03:04:50,000
want to make sure you guys had that only

3634
03:04:50,000 --> 03:04:53,429
do to

3635
03:04:53,439 --> 03:04:56,520
numbers so we just need to address the

3636
03:04:56,520 --> 03:05:05,479
um the vacancies and water no Fe water garbage and then

3637
03:05:05,479 --> 03:05:12,269
the executive

3638
03:05:12,279 --> 03:05:14,520
session

3639
03:05:14,520 --> 03:05:16,120
in regards to the fee I mean we have

3640
03:05:16,120 --> 03:05:19,359
some numbers here some adjusted down

3641
03:05:19,359 --> 03:05:22,479
some reduction how much of that I mean I

3642
03:05:22,479 --> 03:05:25,840
didn't I should have walk in my

3643
03:05:25,840 --> 03:05:28,080
calculator that based on those reduction

3644
03:05:28,080 --> 03:05:33,469
we've been able to factor in how much of

3645
03:05:33,479 --> 03:05:35,920
a with regards to the

3646
03:05:35,920 --> 03:05:41,110
fees if we need to

3647
03:05:41,120 --> 03:05:46,910
increase but then we'll need overall

3648
03:05:46,920 --> 03:05:52,990
PA but the water SW on

3649
03:05:53,000 --> 03:05:55,279
garbage and we need to address the

3650
03:05:55,279 --> 03:05:57,239
vacancies and

3651
03:05:57,239 --> 03:06:00,040
the and the affirmative action what

3652
03:06:00,040 --> 03:06:09,030
movement are we going to take for

3653
03:06:09,040 --> 03:06:12,760
that oh yes s can you please uh what the

3654
03:06:12,760 --> 03:06:14,640
Staffing

3655
03:06:14,640 --> 03:06:16,760
oh you need a

3656
03:06:16,760 --> 03:06:19,239
c

3657
03:06:19,239 --> 03:06:41,870
can you can have a cop

3658
03:06:41,880 --> 03:06:46,120
so you doing some cul

3659
03:06:46,120 --> 03:06:48,560
yeah can take a break as we wait for

3660
03:06:48,560 --> 03:06:50,840
that if you

3661
03:06:50,840 --> 03:06:53,040
still beg your pardon we still have to

3662
03:06:53,040 --> 03:06:58,990
get those numbers

3663
03:06:59,000 --> 03:07:12,110
okay take a break please take a

3664
03:07:12,120 --> 03:07:20,060
break

3665
03:07:20,070 --> 03:07:42,110
[Music]

3666
03:07:42,120 --> 03:07:59,930
for

3667
03:07:59,940 --> 03:08:12,030
[Music]

3668
03:08:12,040 --> 03:08:30,950
still

3669
03:08:30,960 --> 03:08:38,309
depends on the numb are coming

3670
03:08:38,319 --> 03:08:41,990
in

3671
03:08:42,000 --> 03:08:53,389
how

3672
03:08:53,399 --> 03:08:55,479
hold after a quick

3673
03:08:55,479 --> 03:08:58,600
calculation come up with a a reduction

3674
03:08:58,600 --> 03:09:00,920
of

3675
03:09:00,920 --> 03:09:03,479
1,185

3676
03:09:03,479 --> 03:09:07,200
711 can you please repeat that 1

3677
03:09:07,200 --> 03:09:10,160
milon1

3678
03:09:10,160 --> 03:09:12,319
85711 now that's a quick calculation

3679
03:09:12,319 --> 03:09:13,479
over my phone

3680
03:09:13,479 --> 03:09:18,950
you know

3681
03:09:18,960 --> 03:09:24,429
mhm isn't a

3682
03:09:24,439 --> 03:09:27,840
million Tony you guys have a laptop of

3683
03:09:27,840 --> 03:09:32,229
remote

3684
03:09:32,239 --> 03:09:37,469
connection in

3685
03:09:37,479 --> 03:09:40,000
the should it be more than

3686
03:09:40,000 --> 03:09:43,640
that cuz we have two big I 500

3687
03:09:43,640 --> 03:09:46,239
yeah 110 yeah you need you need a lot so

3688
03:09:46,239 --> 03:09:47,800
you you increase the you increase the

3689
03:09:47,800 --> 03:09:49,479
budget by

3690
03:09:49,479 --> 03:09:52,479
5989 and you reduced it by

3691
03:09:52,479 --> 03:09:57,920
1,245 610 so plus and minuses come to

3692
03:09:57,920 --> 03:10:02,200
1185 711 like I said again it's uh off

3693
03:10:02,200 --> 03:10:06,120
my phone so it's off your phone yeah so

3694
03:10:06,120 --> 03:10:07,239
if I got a couple minutes you want to

3695
03:10:07,239 --> 03:10:11,080
run down the culations

3696
03:10:11,080 --> 03:10:13,479
huh run down right now

3697
03:10:13,479 --> 03:10:14,910
that number for

3698
03:10:14,910 --> 03:10:16,920
[Music]

3699
03:10:16,920 --> 03:10:21,479
you can you read this you have you have

3700
03:10:21,479 --> 03:10:27,710
it through

3701
03:10:27,720 --> 03:10:32,200
right I did not uh uh take out uh water

3702
03:10:32,200 --> 03:10:34,319
sore

3703
03:10:34,319 --> 03:10:37,399
or waste I mean that's just the what we

3704
03:10:37,399 --> 03:10:41,120
want to for so going to bring your live

3705
03:10:41,120 --> 03:10:43,720
um Excel she we're gonna come right back

3706
03:10:43,720 --> 03:10:45,800
to

3707
03:10:45,800 --> 03:10:49,040
next again without

3708
03:10:49,040 --> 03:10:51,880
the without water sore are you able to

3709
03:10:51,880 --> 03:10:54,560
take do one with it and one without

3710
03:10:54,560 --> 03:10:56,840
right yeah now what do you want us to do

3711
03:10:56,840 --> 03:10:59,120
with it you mean you want us to take out

3712
03:10:59,120 --> 03:11:03,520
the water sore and water sore and you

3713
03:11:03,520 --> 03:11:05,040
really do want to

3714
03:11:05,040 --> 03:11:11,750
take

3715
03:11:11,760 --> 03:11:14,479
okay

3716
03:11:14,479 --> 03:11:17,479
these on yeah I can mute it from there

3717
03:11:17,479 --> 03:11:41,750
if you want would you

3718
03:11:41,760 --> 03:45:55,349
yeah

3719
03:45:55,359 --> 03:45:58,720
okay we can still see ourselves yeah are

3720
03:45:58,720 --> 03:46:00,479
you going to call Executive session

3721
03:46:00,479 --> 03:46:02,760
first did we did no they want to do it

3722
03:46:02,760 --> 03:46:07,239
on camera the camera on oh it wasn't on

3723
03:46:07,239 --> 03:46:08,520
okay you have to do it again because it

3724
03:46:08,520 --> 03:46:11,080
wasn't captured on camera oh motion call

3725
03:46:11,080 --> 03:46:14,680
Executive session second all in

3726
03:46:14,680 --> 03:46:38,590
favor do we

3727
03:46:38,600 --> 04:11:12,229
need

3728
04:11:12,239 --> 04:11:15,600
you told me to take out the this one's

3729
04:11:15,600 --> 04:11:18,000
what's wrong

3730
04:11:18,000 --> 04:11:28,070
oh back

3731
04:11:28,080 --> 04:11:34,189
on you have copies of those

3732
04:11:34,199 --> 04:11:38,080
for extra do we not I could

3733
04:11:38,080 --> 04:11:40,000
yeah

3734
04:11:40,000 --> 04:11:42,279
off just got to check double check these

3735
04:11:42,279 --> 04:11:43,520
numbers you know like we're doing it on

3736
04:11:43,520 --> 04:11:44,159
the

3737
04:11:44,159 --> 04:11:47,040
flyer but uh the number added up like

3738
04:11:47,040 --> 04:11:51,359
what I said u 1 milon 185 711 that

3739
04:11:51,359 --> 04:11:54,840
changes now if we take out the a refuse

3740
04:11:54,840 --> 04:11:56,439
and put it back to where it was last

3741
04:11:56,439 --> 04:11:59,680
year that's a decrease of 1.7 million so

3742
04:11:59,680 --> 04:12:02,119
now we have to either increase revenues

3743
04:12:02,119 --> 04:12:05,319
by the difference of

3744
04:12:05,319 --> 04:12:09,439
$47,375 or cut expenses by

3745
04:12:09,439 --> 04:12:14,429
547 279 that's in the general

3746
04:12:14,439 --> 04:12:16,800
fund to do this but we missed one of the

3747
04:12:16,800 --> 04:12:18,199
stuff there the

3748
04:12:18,199 --> 04:12:20,600
healthare I wish you had a laptop you

3749
04:12:20,600 --> 04:12:23,920
got to walk back and forth

3750
04:12:23,920 --> 04:12:26,600
healthare we have this one of the the

3751
04:12:26,600 --> 04:12:28,880
points here in terms of the

3752
04:12:28,880 --> 04:12:33,920
14% overall increase forus a 6 to 8% uh

3753
04:12:33,920 --> 04:12:37,479
yeah Trend you saw you saw what says we

3754
04:12:37,479 --> 04:12:38,880
try to keep

3755
04:12:38,880 --> 04:12:42,359
it you know cuz we we're coming off the

3756
04:12:42,359 --> 04:12:44,119
co now this is when everybody's going to

3757
04:12:44,119 --> 04:12:47,840
start hitting the doctors going to

3758
04:12:47,840 --> 04:12:50,080
doctors and getting all the procedures

3759
04:12:50,080 --> 04:12:51,720
done you know that's that's one of the

3760
04:12:51,720 --> 04:12:53,439
main things too like I say it's all

3761
04:12:53,439 --> 04:12:55,080
about the

3762
04:12:55,080 --> 04:12:57,479
increasing uh P people that are working

3763
04:12:57,479 --> 04:12:58,600
for

3764
04:12:58,600 --> 04:13:01,080
us all that I think you make a big

3765
04:13:01,080 --> 04:13:02,319
mistake if

3766
04:13:02,319 --> 04:13:05,359
you would it be I mean safer to I mean I

3767
04:13:05,359 --> 04:13:08,399
say what com over to bring that

3768
04:13:08,399 --> 04:13:12,359
10% I mean 2% over overall going to end

3769
04:13:12,359 --> 04:13:14,600
up being3

3770
04:13:14,600 --> 04:13:18,880
million out of budget over over budget

3771
04:13:18,880 --> 04:13:21,720
that just in that one line you know for

3772
04:13:21,720 --> 04:13:23,720
no if you look at the TR

3773
04:13:23,720 --> 04:13:26,439
6 so just think 10

3774
04:13:26,439 --> 04:13:29,199
10% I'm saying we have a professional

3775
04:13:29,199 --> 04:13:31,040
analysis at

3776
04:13:31,040 --> 04:13:35,159
14% CH me walking no that's okay right

3777
04:13:35,159 --> 04:13:36,720
go ahead well I was going to say that I

3778
04:13:36,720 --> 04:13:38,600
mean we hire somebody to give us a

3779
04:13:38,600 --> 04:13:40,319
professional analysis of what we do

3780
04:13:40,319 --> 04:13:43,359
every year um I would prefer to trust

3781
04:13:43,359 --> 04:13:45,840
that person's work those she's

3782
04:13:45,840 --> 04:13:48,520
conservative too I

3783
04:13:48,520 --> 04:13:50,840
am I I mean I don't I don't think we

3784
04:13:50,840 --> 04:13:55,439
should be messing with healthare for

3785
04:13:55,439 --> 04:13:57,920
emplo I mean look

3786
04:13:57,920 --> 04:14:00,479
last everybody you're going to get some

3787
04:14:00,479 --> 04:14:01,920
savings from

3788
04:14:01,920 --> 04:14:07,600
this EXC the 2023 savs I think so

3789
04:14:07,600 --> 04:14:10,640
I think we're going to either be zero or

3790
04:14:10,640 --> 04:14:13,840
we're going to over budget maybe a small

3791
04:14:13,840 --> 04:14:17,159
amount I can send you our our analysis

3792
04:14:17,159 --> 04:14:20,199
that we did just recently for the rest

3793
04:14:20,199 --> 04:14:27,630
of the

3794
04:14:27,640 --> 04:14:30,199
year in in terms of the Staffing and we

3795
04:14:30,199 --> 04:14:32,680
can go back to the the ones that is it

3796
04:14:32,680 --> 04:14:35,040
any way that these can be separated so

3797
04:14:35,040 --> 04:14:39,119
to look at the one that is carried from 2022

3798
04:14:39,119 --> 04:14:42,359
2023 and then the ones that we proposed

3799
04:14:42,359 --> 04:14:43,920
to add only

3800
04:14:43,920 --> 04:14:46,319
2024 we have to see if our HR envirment

3801
04:14:46,319 --> 04:14:48,359
can separate yeah we'll take a look

3802
04:14:48,359 --> 04:14:49,960
we'll see what we can do yeah I can't do

3803
04:14:49,960 --> 04:14:52,199
it tonight no no no just separate them

3804
04:14:52,199 --> 04:14:54,960
so we looked at how the trend I mean

3805
04:14:54,960 --> 04:14:56,479
Department are not

3806
04:14:56,479 --> 04:14:58,840
actually you know make that effort to

3807
04:14:58,840 --> 04:15:01,800
hire why keep carrying it from year to

3808
04:15:01,800 --> 04:15:04,159
year because we know that there's a

3809
04:15:04,159 --> 04:15:06,000
department that you

3810
04:15:06,000 --> 04:15:08,399
know

3811
04:15:08,399 --> 04:15:10,760
Mr Mudan are you are you looking are you

3812
04:15:10,760 --> 04:15:13,319
expect trying to like take those out of

3813
04:15:13,319 --> 04:15:16,080
the budget tonight or well we we would

3814
04:15:16,080 --> 04:15:18,479
have to get a number we can't just pull

3815
04:15:18,479 --> 04:15:21,319
the the title out without not getting a

3816
04:15:21,319 --> 04:15:25,239
overall cost including the salary and fr

3817
04:15:25,239 --> 04:15:27,560
benefit and we need to separate it based

3818
04:15:27,560 --> 04:15:30,520
on the um the historic

3819
04:15:30,520 --> 04:15:32,920
call have we been carrying out from is

3820
04:15:32,920 --> 04:15:35,199
the r are you looking for how many

3821
04:15:35,199 --> 04:15:41,269
years well I mean

3822
04:15:41,279 --> 04:15:43,680
should go back

3823
04:15:43,680 --> 04:15:46,319
to 21 22

3824
04:15:46,319 --> 04:15:49,199
23 and see how how he's been trending

3825
04:15:49,199 --> 04:15:51,560
how's been rolling for the last two

3826
04:15:51,560 --> 04:15:55,239
years without being filled

3827
04:15:55,239 --> 04:15:57,920
and what is being added into the new

3828
04:15:57,920 --> 04:16:00,239
ones that being added into 2024 budget

3829
04:16:00,239 --> 04:16:02,870
new

3830
04:16:02,880 --> 04:16:05,800
positions position we will need overall

3831
04:16:05,800 --> 04:16:12,830
cost including salary plus

3832
04:16:12,840 --> 04:16:15,600
the and we're scooting fire

3833
04:16:15,600 --> 04:16:17,359
in

3834
04:16:17,359 --> 04:16:23,560
yes not yes excl police yes they as to

3835
04:16:23,560 --> 04:16:24,920
stay put on

3836
04:16:24,920 --> 04:16:32,990
that all other

3837
04:16:33,000 --> 04:16:35,279
departments and that's including our

3838
04:16:35,279 --> 04:16:39,389
prop position that is MHM

3839
04:16:39,399 --> 04:16:42,119
currently there going to go

3840
04:16:42,119 --> 04:16:44,920
water yeah sure um this is just a

3841
04:16:44,920 --> 04:16:48,040
snapshot of what would happen if we take

3842
04:16:48,040 --> 04:16:49,680
out the

3843
04:16:49,680 --> 04:16:53,239
increases um throughout water uh FX

3844
04:16:53,239 --> 04:16:56,520
you're looking at approximately 883

3845
04:16:56,520 --> 04:17:01,040
th000 uh deficit if you look at sewer uh

3846
04:17:01,040 --> 04:17:03,040
without those increases looking at a

3847
04:17:03,040 --> 04:17:09,349
point $2.5 million deficit

3848
04:17:09,359 --> 04:17:11,080
this is a small amount but I I do want

3849
04:17:11,080 --> 04:17:15,199
to ask what is this fx22 2410 rental of

3850
04:17:15,199 --> 04:17:17,479
real

3851
04:17:17,479 --> 04:17:20,439
property uh is that a

3852
04:17:20,439 --> 04:17:23,680
revenue is that a revenue line the

3853
04:17:23,680 --> 04:17:27,680
rental R

3854
04:17:27,680 --> 04:17:30,199
rer that's a yearly that's but you he

3855
04:17:30,199 --> 04:17:32,560
pays for a

3856
04:17:32,560 --> 04:17:35,239
year when's the last time we increased

3857
04:17:35,239 --> 04:17:38,199
that um when you moved

3858
04:17:38,199 --> 04:17:45,710
there it was 300 ra

3859
04:17:45,720 --> 04:17:47,840
500 that's

3860
04:17:47,840 --> 04:17:50,159
low especially based on Market rents

3861
04:17:50,159 --> 04:17:52,469
around

3862
04:17:52,479 --> 04:18:00,349
here it's very

3863
04:18:00,359 --> 04:18:03,119
low some of that you he mows the grass

3864
04:18:03,119 --> 04:18:06,119
does other things so these other kind of

3865
04:18:06,119 --> 04:18:09,030
factors in

3866
04:18:09,040 --> 04:18:11,800
the council if you want to look at that

3867
04:18:11,800 --> 04:18:14,319
more than open to

3868
04:18:14,319 --> 04:18:17,479
discussing well I just I don't know

3869
04:18:17,479 --> 04:18:19,920
anybody's rent that state 500 or or

3870
04:18:19,920 --> 04:18:22,920
whatever the rent is like for year to year and it's a low rent I've

3871
04:18:22,920 --> 04:18:24,319
never been there I don't know what it

3872
04:18:24,319 --> 04:18:28,319
looks like but it's still low

3873
04:18:28,319 --> 04:18:30,920
so the official residents of the council

3874
04:18:30,920 --> 04:18:34,920
pres h no it's in Nuna then You' get rid

3875
04:18:34,920 --> 04:18:42,159
of me oh come on the Sor

3876
04:18:42,159 --> 04:18:46,640
residence you can s you can live in and

3877
04:18:46,640 --> 04:18:49,520
serry so I just you know I mean I didn't

3878
04:18:49,520 --> 04:18:51,960
know what it was for but I see that it's

3879
04:18:51,960 --> 04:18:55,680
been basically consistent actually wait

3880
04:18:55,680 --> 04:18:57,800
when how come it was so low one

3881
04:18:57,800 --> 04:19:01,920
year why is it why was it so low in

3882
04:19:01,920 --> 04:19:05,640
22 what in 2022 why was it so

3883
04:19:05,640 --> 04:19:07,640
low

3884
04:19:07,640 --> 04:19:12,119
see it actual May so he wasn't living

3885
04:19:12,119 --> 04:19:15,359
there I don't know the answer that that

3886
04:19:15,359 --> 04:19:16,720
doesn't make

3887
04:19:16,720 --> 04:19:19,960
sense all right but anyway I know I

3888
04:19:19,960 --> 04:19:22,960
think it's worth considering increasing

3889
04:19:22,960 --> 04:19:25,239
it it's not like he doesn't get to raise

3890
04:19:25,239 --> 04:19:27,830
every

3891
04:19:27,840 --> 04:19:31,359
year increase it by $883,000

3892
04:19:31,359 --> 04:19:34,199
yes I think that works

3893
04:19:34,199 --> 04:19:38,600
perfectly just the benefit of a position

3894
04:19:38,600 --> 04:19:40,800
it it's a very good benefit and it's not

3895
04:19:40,800 --> 04:19:42,040
a benefit that we're raising and he gets

3896
04:19:42,040 --> 04:19:43,640
a salary every year and I guarantee you

3897
04:19:43,640 --> 04:19:44,720
there's other people would love to live

3898
04:19:44,720 --> 04:19:50,279
in there for $500 Igloo or not I I just

3899
04:19:50,279 --> 04:19:53,199
like will you offer free housing well we

3900
04:19:53,199 --> 04:19:55,119
should throw it out there for for every

3901
04:19:55,119 --> 04:19:56,399
employee and said would you like to live

3902
04:19:56,399 --> 04:19:58,479
here for for for 500 I guarantee we get

3903
04:19:58,479 --> 04:20:04,670
some takers and they cut the

3904
04:20:04,680 --> 04:20:08,520
grass so how are we seing here because

3905
04:20:08,520 --> 04:20:10,159
if they have to go through this entire

3906
04:20:10,159 --> 04:20:12,560
chart and figure out all oh my go

3907
04:20:12,560 --> 04:20:14,199
changes we're not going to be able to

3908
04:20:14,199 --> 04:20:15,479
vote on this on I don't even think

3909
04:20:15,479 --> 04:20:17,760
that's 500 Grand there you cut all these

3910
04:20:17,760 --> 04:20:19,920
jobs or something think that's

3911
04:20:19,920 --> 04:20:22,119
500,000 we're not going to cut all these

3912
04:20:22,119 --> 04:20:26,070
jobs

3913
04:20:26,080 --> 04:20:28,239
okay I was going to do the calculation

3914
04:20:28,239 --> 04:20:29,920
let me just ask you so the difference

3915
04:20:29,920 --> 04:20:32,359
here right now it's -4

3916
04:20:32,359 --> 04:20:36,920
547 yeah if you don't if you don't uh

3917
04:20:36,920 --> 04:20:38,960
you don't raise the waste you keep waste

3918
04:20:38,960 --> 04:20:41,399
the same which I think you're Mak a big

3919
04:20:41,399 --> 04:20:44,080
mistake so so if you keep the the water

3920
04:20:44,080 --> 04:20:47,159
and S the same oh water SW and garbage

3921
04:20:47,159 --> 04:20:47,920
the

3922
04:20:47,920 --> 04:20:52,159
same but if you look at water and

3923
04:20:52,159 --> 04:20:57,590
83,000 deficit 2.5

3924
04:20:57,600 --> 04:21:01,040
million spok to you about water garbage

3925
04:21:01,040 --> 04:21:02,880
we only have the

3926
04:21:02,880 --> 04:21:06,800
water you got waste too different she G

3927
04:21:06,800 --> 04:21:08,479
is on the general fund

3928
04:21:08,479 --> 04:21:12,800
here and plus us sear you general fund

3929
04:21:12,800 --> 04:21:15,239
shows you know we're going to lower the

3930
04:21:15,239 --> 04:21:32,590
budget by 1732

3931
04:21:32,600 --> 04:21:34,720
million so there a couple things that we

3932
04:21:34,720 --> 04:21:37,880
need to address this is avable night has

3933
04:21:37,880 --> 04:21:41,760
to do with the water SE and

3934
04:21:41,760 --> 04:21:45,399
garbage and then the stop the vacancies

3935
04:21:45,399 --> 04:21:46,840
so those are like four items that we

3936
04:21:46,840 --> 04:21:50,109
need to address

3937
04:21:50,119 --> 04:21:54,119
Friday we need s have you called for the

3938
04:21:54,119 --> 04:22:03,870
meeting yes sir so we have to have it

3939
04:22:03,880 --> 04:22:07,000
right wrong as far as

3940
04:22:07,000 --> 04:22:07,800
the

3941
04:22:07,800 --> 04:22:11,040
positions you have Mr colon here I mean

3942
04:22:11,040 --> 04:22:12,920
just looking at you I mean have have

3943
04:22:12,920 --> 04:22:15,239
these positions been open for quite a

3944
04:22:15,239 --> 04:22:17,880
while in your office do you need all

3945
04:22:17,880 --> 04:22:20,399
these positions I mean do we call the

3946
04:22:20,399 --> 04:22:22,479
department heads back in and ask them to

3947
04:22:22,479 --> 04:22:24,920
explain why these positions are

3948
04:22:24,920 --> 04:22:29,710
needed so there's

3949
04:22:29,720 --> 04:22:33,119
one the mayor's budgets uh gets

3950
04:22:33,119 --> 04:22:35,479
eliminates one current assistant

3951
04:22:35,479 --> 04:22:37,000
Corporation C

3952
04:22:37,000 --> 04:22:39,760
position that's not accounted for here

3953
04:22:39,760 --> 04:22:41,760
all right because it's there are three

3954
04:22:41,760 --> 04:22:42,840
open

3955
04:22:42,840 --> 04:22:46,359
positions in the 23 budget one position

3956
04:22:46,359 --> 04:22:48,479
is eliminated in The mer proposed budget

3957
04:22:48,479 --> 04:22:52,720
for 24 um we had a per DM attorney

3958
04:22:52,720 --> 04:22:56,760
position at. five filled for the 23

3959
04:22:56,760 --> 04:23:01,040
budget it's nowos budget one position we

3960
04:23:01,040 --> 04:23:05,800
have two full time two part time per DS

3961
04:23:05,800 --> 04:23:10,159
right um so he limited one assistant

3962
04:23:10,159 --> 04:23:12,319
Corporation Council now if you want my

3963
04:23:12,319 --> 04:23:14,800
two sents on it yeah I think the council

3964
04:23:14,800 --> 04:23:16,720
already knows that I've had a difficult

3965
04:23:16,720 --> 04:23:19,119
time trying to fill one assistant

3966
04:23:19,119 --> 04:23:20,800
Corporation Council position let alone

3967
04:23:20,800 --> 04:23:22,640
too right you

3968
04:23:22,640 --> 04:23:25,399
know you know if you if the council was

3969
04:23:25,399 --> 04:23:29,000
to propose eliminating another assistant

3970
04:23:29,000 --> 04:23:30,720
Corporation Council position and leaving

3971
04:23:30,720 --> 04:23:33,239
one in there you

3972
04:23:33,239 --> 04:23:35,840
know does it make it more difficult of

3973
04:23:35,840 --> 04:23:38,000
course but I'm having a tough time just

3974
04:23:38,000 --> 04:23:39,279
Shing one

3975
04:23:39,279 --> 04:23:42,439
position and you

3976
04:23:42,439 --> 04:23:45,960
know it's you know it it makes the work

3977
04:23:45,960 --> 04:23:47,640
more difficult we're still always trying

3978
04:23:47,640 --> 04:23:50,080
to hire you know we've had interviews

3979
04:23:50,080 --> 04:23:53,319
and and so forth and stress housing is

3980
04:23:53,319 --> 04:23:55,960
still our biggest

3981
04:23:55,960 --> 04:24:00,119
issue you we're beefing up code

3982
04:24:00,119 --> 04:24:02,680
enforcement we need more people in the

3983
04:24:02,680 --> 04:24:06,239
Law Department forward I thrown out the

3984
04:24:06,239 --> 04:24:09,119
roughly $7.5 million in AR money you

3985
04:24:09,119 --> 04:24:12,840
know big number deficit it's not that

3986
04:24:12,840 --> 04:24:14,800
insurmountable you know if you look at

3987
04:24:14,800 --> 04:24:18,239
our foreclosure process and stuff for uh

3988
04:24:18,239 --> 04:24:20,399
you know this time we took a little over

3989
04:24:20,399 --> 04:24:24,720
100 houses or properties in uh it's

3990
04:24:24,720 --> 04:24:27,840
probably going to be equal to that next

3991
04:24:27,840 --> 04:24:30,199
year you know in the sales price of

3992
04:24:30,199 --> 04:24:31,760
those is going up so if we have 100

3993
04:24:31,760 --> 04:24:33,520
houses if we can turn those over if the

3994
04:24:33,520 --> 04:24:36,159
market stays the same where you look

3995
04:24:36,159 --> 04:24:40,040
looking at let say $50,000 a house that

3996
04:24:40,040 --> 04:24:43,560
becomes a little over $5

3997
04:24:43,560 --> 04:24:48,119
million is a potential Revenue source

3998
04:24:48,119 --> 04:24:50,640
and those are the things that drop your

3999
04:24:50,640 --> 04:24:53,680
police costs that drop the other costs

4000
04:24:53,680 --> 04:24:57,640
that uh allow us to balance the budget

4001
04:24:57,640 --> 04:25:00,560
so

4002
04:25:00,560 --> 04:25:04,000
uh you know I don't want those positions

4003
04:25:04,000 --> 04:25:05,520
limited I want to given the opportunity

4004
04:25:05,520 --> 04:25:10,360
to fill them

4005
04:25:10,370 --> 04:25:23,070
[Applause]

4006
04:25:23,080 --> 04:25:25,800
okay I think we can uh we can conclud

4007
04:25:25,800 --> 04:25:28,960
this so we have we'll have to recess

4008
04:25:28,960 --> 04:25:31,199
reconvene on

4009
04:25:31,199 --> 04:25:34,560
Friday address this

4010
04:25:34,560 --> 04:25:37,040
um this few

4011
04:25:37,040 --> 04:25:39,319
items hopefully we can get something

4012
04:25:39,319 --> 04:25:41,479
tomorrow but then we'd have to not vote

4013
04:25:41,479 --> 04:25:43,840
on Friday right well we have to the

4014
04:25:43,840 --> 04:25:45,800
meeting well you can just move it to

4015
04:25:45,800 --> 04:25:48,159
Monday to Monday right we can back for

4016
04:25:48,159 --> 04:25:50,560
another discussion vac

4017
04:25:50,560 --> 04:25:53,239
vacancies hope so if you can just spread

4018
04:25:53,239 --> 04:25:54,920
it out and see how the trend is going

4019
04:25:54,920 --> 04:25:58,119
2021 2 3 and then all the new hires that

4020
04:25:58,119 --> 04:26:01,439
is proposed until next year but i' like

4021
04:26:01,439 --> 04:26:03,319
you also look at the the trend we showed

4022
04:26:03,319 --> 04:26:06,600
you for the cost of waste if you don't

4023
04:26:06,600 --> 04:26:08,479
raise it I want I want you to see what

4024
04:26:08,479 --> 04:26:11,119
that cost is like by doing what you're

4025
04:26:11,119 --> 04:26:13,439
doing the waste department itself is

4026
04:26:13,439 --> 04:26:15,720
going to be losing a million dollars and

4027
04:26:15,720 --> 04:26:19,040
I'm just saying you're I I know it's not

4028
04:26:19,040 --> 04:26:21,439
of business we're public servicer but

4029
04:26:21,439 --> 04:26:23,279
we're not doing anything for our our

4030
04:26:23,279 --> 04:26:26,479
public by uh losing million

4031
04:26:26,479 --> 04:26:29,520
dollars yeah I I definitely would keep

4032
04:26:29,520 --> 04:26:33,720
the water sewering uh waste fees as

4033
04:26:33,720 --> 04:26:37,119
suggested in this budget

4034
04:26:37,119 --> 04:26:40,040
because otherwise we have a huge

4035
04:26:40,040 --> 04:26:42,080
hold going

4036
04:26:42,080 --> 04:26:44,960
forward looking for the

4037
04:26:44,960 --> 04:26:51,550
future okay so we'll get those stuff

4038
04:26:51,560 --> 04:26:56,950
we we can

4039
04:26:56,960 --> 04:27:00,479
follow tomorrow we have everything

4040
04:27:00,479 --> 04:27:03,109
almost

4041
04:27:03,119 --> 04:27:06,159
everything all right and then and then

4042
04:27:06,159 --> 04:27:08,000
Friday we would just be having another

4043
04:27:08,000 --> 04:27:09,680
discussion with the idea that we'd vote

4044
04:27:09,680 --> 04:27:11,399
on Monday no you have to vote our

4045
04:27:11,399 --> 04:27:15,880
committee first well we'll see how it

4046
04:27:15,880 --> 04:27:18,439
goes so it was called for a council

4047
04:27:18,439 --> 04:27:24,510
meeting on Friday yeah yes not a

4048
04:27:24,520 --> 04:27:26,439
committee right we called a special

4049
04:27:26,439 --> 04:27:28,239
council meeting to vote out the budget

4050
04:27:28,239 --> 04:27:34,910
that's what was called out for

4051
04:27:34,920 --> 04:27:38,990
Friday

4052
04:27:39,000 --> 04:27:42,920
we want to can't can't complete this

4053
04:27:42,920 --> 04:27:45,040
tonight who you talking about who you

4054
04:27:45,040 --> 04:27:48,040
talking to Anthony well the reality is

4055
04:27:48,040 --> 04:27:50,439
we're going to spin in Wheels I'm going

4056
04:27:50,439 --> 04:27:52,920
to send them home put it together

4057
04:27:52,920 --> 04:27:57,239
tomorrow and have it to the council

4058
04:27:57,239 --> 04:28:01,359
so if we we give a thing with the jobs

4059
04:28:01,359 --> 04:28:04,830
that's not enough to do

4060
04:28:04,840 --> 04:28:09,279
anything money to P the

4061
04:28:09,279 --> 04:28:11,479
Ws If you eliminate the fees If you

4062
04:28:11,479 --> 04:28:13,000
eliminate the fees

4063
04:28:13,000 --> 04:28:18,469
yeah unless you want to raise

4064
04:28:18,479 --> 04:28:23,040
taxes what is our um General Reserve

4065
04:28:23,040 --> 04:28:30,109
25 15 don't you want to save that for

4066
04:28:30,119 --> 04:28:31,800
2025 going to

4067
04:28:31,800 --> 04:28:34,359
be2 million deficit well I'm just saying

4068
04:28:34,359 --> 04:28:35,399
I mean we're going to have to make up

4069
04:28:35,399 --> 04:28:38,830
the money that we're

4070
04:28:38,840 --> 04:28:41,840
using I don't think this is the year to

4071
04:28:41,840 --> 04:28:45,560
take reserves start increasing rates now

4072
04:28:45,560 --> 04:28:50,199
we have a home right now so we need to fill

4073
04:28:50,199 --> 04:28:55,159
the move move to our fill increase

4074
04:28:55,159 --> 04:28:57,479
R we're going to increase our Revenue

4075
04:28:57,479 --> 04:28:59,960
mayor said the budget the budget as

4076
04:28:59,960 --> 04:29:01,800
presented has no

4077
04:29:01,800 --> 04:29:05,520
hold 7.4 million into next year for next

4078
04:29:05,520 --> 04:29:06,880
year

4079
04:29:06,880 --> 04:29:09,560
now this budget does not have a whole if

4080
04:29:09,560 --> 04:29:11,600
we don't address it I'll start now what

4081
04:29:11,600 --> 04:29:16,920
I just outline over $5 million of that

4082
04:29:16,920 --> 04:29:22,109
theoretical Financial

4083
04:29:22,119 --> 04:29:25,720
number that say that again repeat

4084
04:29:25,720 --> 04:29:28,720
that I justy the scenario it generates

4085
04:29:28,720 --> 04:29:32,199
$5 million in Revenue have to do that

4086
04:29:32,199 --> 04:29:34,479
it's what we have been doing and it's

4087
04:29:34,479 --> 04:29:38,630
what we have to continue to do going

4088
04:29:38,640 --> 04:29:45,750
for

4089
04:29:45,760 --> 04:29:50,439
I terms of we didn't call for us me what

4090
04:29:50,439 --> 04:29:52,000
we we did we called for a council

4091
04:29:52,000 --> 04:29:54,840
meeting on Friday Friday yes so what

4092
04:29:54,840 --> 04:29:57,159
what's you can recess the committee

4093
04:29:57,159 --> 04:30:00,640
meeting Friday yes um the council

4094
04:30:00,640 --> 04:30:04,720
meeting up what time 5:00 5:00 I would

4095
04:30:04,720 --> 04:30:06,279
say reset

4096
04:30:06,279 --> 04:30:08,960
the committee meeting to before the

4097
04:30:08,960 --> 04:30:11,520
council meeting and just postpone the

4098
04:30:11,520 --> 04:30:13,000
beginning of the council meeting to

4099
04:30:13,000 --> 04:30:15,040
after the

4100
04:30:15,040 --> 04:30:17,920
committee

4101
04:30:17,920 --> 04:30:20,119
okay so we'll move to Res set the

4102
04:30:20,119 --> 04:30:24,279
finance committee for this Friday before

4103
04:30:24,279 --> 04:30:27,239
the special city council

4104
04:30:27,239 --> 04:30:30,040
meeting second all in

4105
04:30:30,040 --> 04:30:34,630
favor so

4106
04:30:34,640 --> 04:30:46,950
but

4107
04:30:46,960 --> 04:30:51,040
I'm hungry my Sal place is closed all

4108
04:30:51,040 --> 04:30:55,000
right am I right I think an hour too

4109
04:30:55,000 --> 04:30:59,279
long I think but I'll be all right

4110
04:30:59,279 --> 04:31:02,080
okay so Anthony Anthony can I just ask a

4111
04:31:02,080 --> 04:31:05,040
quick question or or D so what this

4112
04:31:05,040 --> 04:31:07,479
means is we make the changes that the

4113
04:31:07,479 --> 04:31:09,920
council wanted to make take out the fees

4114
04:31:09,920 --> 04:31:12,000
that would oh and take out the fees then

4115
04:31:12,000 --> 04:31:14,040
we're down

4116
04:31:14,040 --> 04:31:21,670
1.85 right no you

4117
04:31:21,680 --> 04:31:24,680
guys