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usually saw you Su

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morning

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yeah running like a mad probably I want

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yes yeah I had to get it done early oh

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yeah because we went um to con New York

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for a half oh okay so I

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hi guys I'm hi Mr

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Ferrari I'm good how you

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feel how are

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going uh yeah busy it's always busy

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the walking urgent car urgent car I know

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it was was used to be so

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most yeah they're also very

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wonderful

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I'd like to call the ORD city council

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committee meeting for Tuesday October

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31st 2023 and I'll turn it over to

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M finance committee we met we had recess

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a meeting to answer to get answer

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regarding

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to the $2.5 million AR

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allocation Mr can you give I something

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avilable just for the sake of the public

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can you just walk us through that

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or sorry what was that the $2.5 million

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that they asked question

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about

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sure

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about how we could use the 2.5 million

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funds

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yes so after a discussion with our audit

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company um I believe that I sent an

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email to the city council Oran and

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pfield council president and John Baron

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um and listing um what we can and what

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we can do .5 million um noted on this

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email the 2.5 million can be used for

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specific capital

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projects um what it cannot be used for

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is um premium

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pay uh the rehiring of public sector sta

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staff and um the city uh can't be used

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as lost Revenue because we already have

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a different section uh that's broken

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down uh from the 5.2% ruling uh so

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only what we can do currently we 2.5

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million for capital projects if you

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would like me to read um what I wrote to

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in the email to the city council I can

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everybody did you all get that yeah we

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need now the email that you forward to

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us is that that came from the AR

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directly if you look underneath um

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there's response from the Auditors um if

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you look in the I believe it's

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highlighted in red those are the

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responses from the

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Auditors and then I just wrote it my own

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um summary um that was sent to city

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council any question on

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that well I don't have questions but I

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did some research over the weekend and

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just keeping in mind this is not part

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this is not happened in New York but um

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there were other municipalities that use

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the money that way and um I can pass out

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the so we don't have to I don't have to

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read to you I can pass out the

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information that um and

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that that that mandate violated the

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spending Clause so again it didn't

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happen in New Y it didn't happen in New

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York however it did happen in other

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sorry

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good um so just trying to figure out how

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we can you know balance this budget and

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be able to use the ARB fund to do

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it so just providing that information to

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you and we you know need to be able to

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move forward and see

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um if we want to consider using it based

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on what has happened in other states um

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there's that then I have another

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question Mr M go so um the the question

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is I guess for Mr Ferrari we I sent the

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email out and all of you got it about

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line a

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5182 and so

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um then and I sent a phot and the mayor

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um received an answer from U Miss Nelson

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and in it she said that it was used that

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it was it would be used for um paying

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out debt and she said up until

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2028 uh I I think you were talking about

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the Rev payment 1.3 million yes okay

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yeah that that is going to be the final

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payment of the three-year rev

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demonstration that we appr doing I think

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the mayor has a negotiation now uh to

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try to offset some of those costs to

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lower it uh in in of course through 2028

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what's what's going to be happening is

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that we're going to be paying uh you

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know support fees for that but I believe

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that's going to be right in our

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Communications budget that we have

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because the email that we got said that

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it was like 102,000 a year through 2028

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could be yeah yeah but that doesn't was

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not a single line was part of was part

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of the John cucho's budget right but it

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doesn't it doesn't add up to 1.3 million

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even because the 1.3 million we if you

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remember we paid it in 21 22 and now

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we're going to pay the last payment 23

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1.3 that's for the whole rev

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demonstration 102 is is the additional

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cost of I believe Merit software and

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correct that's okay that's that's not

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the answer that we got from Miss

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Nelson that you you you folded

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to okay so you open in this room

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that is the

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answer

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get she saying that it's in a debt

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service line GL A7 9714 600 budget

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transfer is done from the a515 code and

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then she goes on and she says that it's

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going to be upcoming payment in January

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February um for is the last large

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payment and she said I still okay and

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there's still yearly payments of 1

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1,00,000 and

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then lines so my question why would see

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in the lines I believe John kucho put it

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under his lines in his in his uh line

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under his categor

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where you wish I call down no you can't

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call down I I wish I

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could page 37 thank

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you it's on the street

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Li could be on the street where you

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get where is it right there yep that's

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the one that's I'm talking about there's

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nothing in 2024 there's nothing in 2024

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no but because the final payment of the

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over3 1.35 350 is going to be the final

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payment now light power and gas is where

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he put the 102,000 in because that's

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going to be not only from 228 it's

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probably going to be going out

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forever the line above the light power

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gas the National Grid Smart City Network

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the contractual that's going to be the

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last payment this entire amount 1351 350

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it's already been encumbered we're going

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to pay it in February I think she

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mentioned that right yes that's what we

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do and I think the mayor's in negotiate

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right now trying to lower that number

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because of you know whatever reason that

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he

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can but I believe the

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102,000 goes into the regular power

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lightning gas number and my other

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question was about the smart cities the

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two men that was uh that showed up in

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the 21 budget we haven't seen it going

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forward in any other budget and where

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that funding went well we're almost

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complete with that uh I believe uh uh

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the mayor and joh fucho and B he gotten

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a grant

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there that Rec call I didn't put

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anything in this capital budget so I

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believe there's grant money out there

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that we should pursue and if it put

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money in the capital budget a lot of

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times it disqualifies us from grant

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money where it's already being paid for

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so the money that we put aside like

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numerous years it's almost done that's

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my question yeah it's already been

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incumber oh yeah that's what you said

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yeah right

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so well okay then those questions are

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answered they're not showing up here but

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it's so it's hard to know if it's not

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there well won't show up there we show

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up in as the capital expense which is

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you know

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you we don't have these are just Capital

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forti year not for prior years right and

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it only showed up in 21 didn't show up

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in 22 didn't show because we didn't

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borrow any money 21 22 because I believe

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the Mayers W working on get

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GRS okay so those are my questions so

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there's no other there's no other um

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funding out there there's no other money

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that that we can use John on Mr

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M so my question since we got us here

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can we ask Mr for if you can this and

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give us an opinion it's

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possible you

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know from the looks I've talked Mr M

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about this obviously I wasn't here last

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week uh Mr Mar looked into this a little

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bit um my understanding is the second

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circuit which is where we are not

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taking this type of case yet um be hard

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to determine what the second circuit

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will do um just because you know we have

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other circuits that have you know looked

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at this

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um that doesn't necessarily mean that

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the second circuit would you know come

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out one particular way or another

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particular way so it' be hard to say you

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know if somebody were to

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challenge um you know the the tax offset

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Prohibition in the second circuit where

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that Court

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would decided to

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okay

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have any

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question those last week you had

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mentioned you would like to review the

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Caple talk something I have a not here

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yeah I was um I I think I mentioned it was um for the stairs I did we did

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talk about the stairs for the

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reservoir

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$500,000 and my question was um were

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they were did the stairs actually go to

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the world then they go for the resident

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um as I recall Mr

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um Mr Leon said they went all the way to the reservo so I did ask that

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question oh so you you got an answer yes

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okay Mr just want to walk

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this of the

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please uh the Council budget changes for

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general fund these are the budget

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changes that the council had uh spoken

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to us about how you wanted to make

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changes the first one is from the

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mayor's budget uh his original budget of 6.9 mil 59,2 73 for refusing trash

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charges uh you propos the change back to

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the 2023 budget so that was a

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mil7

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32,990 uh change the second was uh you

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increase the the appropriation of fund

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balance by

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32,2 196 so the mayor's original budget

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is at

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3,800

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241 is now uh will be appropriated to

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4,120

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537 the total amount of changes uh that

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you made in general fund and revenue uh

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was a total of of um reduction of

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revenues by

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1,426 194 and taking the mayor's

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original uh budget of

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11,864 120 to

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9,673 and7 and

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$726 uh and then do you want me to go

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line by line or you just can see it no

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please you know we have the salaries

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changes we have the police overtime

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changes we have the fleet manager

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changes the street manager changes and

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we'll

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add finish the whole uh when we finish

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the whole thing again uh it was a

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reduction of 1,

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42,69421

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after we make those changes

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any question on

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this

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on the back

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too I

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found so B on the email from

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you what is your position regarding 2.5

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million well

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on at this point in time since we're not

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clear and it hasn't happened in New York

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I don't know that we want to necessarily

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Robo dice on

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that so um based on what our Corporation

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Council says because we haven't seen it

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in New York so we don't know what would

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happen if even if we saw in another

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municipality within New York State i'

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certainly be much more comfortable um

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say that we should go ahead and do it

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but without having seen

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that don't know that we should do

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that so we have

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to um so that's that's my position on

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that but everybody else is here so they

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can certainly um weigh

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in i i would support what our finance

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staff is

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recommended

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[Applause]

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since you are making suggestion here

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where we going to find

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2.5 I I mean there's there aren't a lot

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of place to to find it there's just our

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um our um fund balance and that's it

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there's no I mean there's no place

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else it's not like we have our Magic

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Money Tre to pull it

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up Mr U and

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C the water and sore fund is only going

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to increase it's not going to decrease

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our debt payments just for the uh uh a

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wastewater treatment plant and and the

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north fa treat PS pump station is going

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to be over a million dollars a

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year I implore you to please uh think

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about raising the water and SE rate

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increases we're only talking water and

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seore 94 $946 a year per unit

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$22.62 per quarter we're we're not

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asking for much but you're going to have

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to raise it next year you're going to

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have to raise it double because you're

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putting yourself in a predicament where

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you're not trying to overcome you you're

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not overcoming your your debt and then

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you're going to use all your fund

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balance and it's going to just put more

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pressure on you guys going

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forward uh

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financially like I says in next year

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you're going to probably have to double

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if you don't raise it this year first of

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all because you're not going to have a

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fund balance you use fund balance you

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got any fund balance left to use and

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then you're going to have to increase

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the rates to get a fund balance and pay

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for the uh the debt and and work uh you

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know contracts are up you know they're

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everything is going to everything is

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increasing I have to tell you and I

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think the safest and smartest move is to raise the water and sord uh rate

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increase by the proportions that were

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the mayor put in the budget

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originally I just wanted to say that

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it's being financially

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sound

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and if we if we decide not to the

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majority count decide not to raise this total of the water and so will have

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to come out from the general Reserve to

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balance the budget you

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wow can you uh D can you talk about the

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fund balance we also talked to our sure

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our fiscal advisors about our

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so our fiscal advisors um suggested is

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that um there's a certain range uh they

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specifically talk about the general fund

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um and that specific range of fund

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balance to Total expenses between 13 and

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15% um the way we're looking towards

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using our fund balance we're looking to

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be below that range and that's going to

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affect our bond

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rating I can read exactly what he wrote

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here okay um from the city's 22 audit

401
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total fund balance as a percentage of

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expenditures is

403
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19.6% if the fund balance decreases by

404
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3.8 million well if you're going to add

405
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another 2.5 we're talking six you're

406
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talking three more million we're at four

407
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you're talking 7 million so you're

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doubling this the total fund balance of

409
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percentage will decrease to 13 15 uh 7%

410
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but that's at 3.8 million at uh at 7

411
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million like you're talking to you're going down to what 9% we looking

412
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at around

413
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9% and these

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levels uh above 13 to

415
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15% are not as high as 20 22% it's

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important to know the Assumption

417
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expenses are held constant at the 22

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level which we know it or not and there

419
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are not initial Surplus or defic or

420
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deficiencies in the city results

421
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operations any changes to these barrels

422
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impact the metric as

423
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well okay what do it say they refer to

424
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these projects and programs as a tail

425
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using arper funds and they would view

426
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future expenses without a revenue source

427
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as negative or pressure on the finance

428
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of the city depending on the mod future

429
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cost the city would need to resorb in

430
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future

431
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years that's that's the good

432
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part that's the good part so you say any

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decrease of the fund BS below the 133%

434
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% a year end will impact the metrics

435
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that calculate the city's rating and

436
00:27:03,039 --> 00:27:05,200
depending on the extent of the decrease

437
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,440
could find Place downward pressure on

438
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the rating as the last rating report the

439
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fund balance as a percentage expense

440
00:27:12,159 --> 00:27:16,080
showed a positive strong and budgetary

441
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,640
flexibility and this will put pressure

442
00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,000
on us because we're we're going the

443
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opposite view of that I just want to let

444
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:26,200
you know that and that's what I'm saying

445
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you're putting yourself pressure without

446
00:27:27,919 --> 00:27:29,080
raising these rates you're putting

447
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pressure on the city finances and your

448
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,399
finances I not personally but when you

449
00:27:34,399 --> 00:27:36,679
do this budget next year you're putting

450
00:27:36,679 --> 00:27:38,120
a lot of pressure on yourselves because

451
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now you're going to really have to raise

452
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in all aspects water sore

453
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General and the reason I'm saying this

454
00:27:52,159 --> 00:27:54,880
is is is the rate is not is not a big

455
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,120
rate to increase and you're looking too

456
00:27:57,120 --> 00:27:59,679
in the projects water and sore again

457
00:27:59,679 --> 00:28:02,080
you're looking to

458
00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:06,840
uh borrow and uh the sore fund another

459
00:28:06,840 --> 00:28:10,840
1.5 million and another 950,000 in water

460
00:28:10,840 --> 00:28:13,159
sore and you know we've been using

461
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reserves for the last maybe five years

462
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:18,080
so we haven't borrowed any money from

463
00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:21,200
water sore and we're anticipating the

464
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:22,960
use well this borrowing for the

465
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wastewater treatment plant that and you

466
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,919
know we're planning on getting this

467
00:28:26,919 --> 00:28:28,960
thing go happened and things just

468
00:28:28,960 --> 00:28:31,760
exploded now what I'm saying is that

469
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it's I think it's in your best interest

470
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:37,000
to raise the rates on water and

471
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sord so are you saying that we have some

472
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:41,279
capital projects in water and

473
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store so according to what Mr gole said

474
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that we could use that 2.5 there so that

475
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would less our borro that's what his

476
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email said I would love for you guys

477
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use for water and sore that but that's

478
00:28:54,679 --> 00:28:56,039
not

479
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affecting water start borrowing next

480
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:07,830
year yeah I mean 2025 is going to cuz that's when you start paying for the

481
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,240
debt but I'm saying for water and sore

482
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now you should raise the

483
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rates believe me as a homeowner I I

484
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really don't would like to see water and

485
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,640
rates GL but I know a fact that you know

486
00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:25,080
the single family that I have I'm only

487
00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,279
paid less than $300 a year for my water

488
00:29:28,279 --> 00:29:30,279
and I know for a fact that my brother is

489
00:29:30,279 --> 00:29:32,760
in reram paying $600 a year and my

490
00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:34,240
brother in reram Junction is paying

491
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$1,100 a year for water so I know we're

492
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doing great so for another $16 a year

493
00:29:41,519 --> 00:29:44,000
you making $36 that's F I feel like I'm

494
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:44,840
getting a

495
00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:48,240
deal uh our sore uh right now a single

496
00:29:48,240 --> 00:29:51,600
family is about $433 we're asking for 74

497
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:54,320
it sounds like a lot but we have the

498
00:29:54,320 --> 00:29:56,360
wastewater treatment plant we have the

499
00:29:56,360 --> 00:29:59,519
new pump station uh we we're working uh

500
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to everything to update our whole

501
00:30:01,279 --> 00:30:03,159
infrastructure for the future and what

502
00:30:03,159 --> 00:30:04,919
I'm saying if you don't raise these

503
00:30:04,919 --> 00:30:06,840
rates and then you're are you're doing

504
00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,440
is stalling uh a

505
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,000
future you know a financial future for

506
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:14,519
not only to water Sor I think for the

507
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city as a

508
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whole and we're under looking

509
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:24,120
$946 a year for water and sore comes to

510
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$22.62 per quarter it's that for your

511
00:30:27,919 --> 00:30:30,760
tax bill per unit so if you have the two

512
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:48,549
unit it be4 $45 and uh 12 cents 22 CS 24

513
00:30:48,559 --> 00:30:51,279
cents I mean based on prior discussion I

514
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:54,200
don't think based on prior discussion I

515
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:55,600
don't think we have a majority of

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00:30:55,600 --> 00:31:00,950
members supporting U raising the

517
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:04,600
Feats want to take a

518
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,629
quick it's up to you

519
00:31:08,639 --> 00:31:10,760
guys I'm just trying to have you guys

520
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,440
financially sound you know when I leave

521
00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,200
here I want to be able to feel good

522
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:17,039
about myself have we over seen a copy of

523
00:31:17,039 --> 00:31:20,039
that yeah this was done a fews

524
00:31:20,039 --> 00:31:22,440
ago it's also has the weight waist

525
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:23,840
increase but now you know we're done

526
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,080
with the general portion I'm just

527
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,799
looking at these two these two number

528
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:33,519
before2 oh not that one that near just

529
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:36,760
said these no I can get for you would

530
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:43,470
mind no

531
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:56,149
problem do you want help me now or just

532
00:31:56,159 --> 00:32:14,990
later

533
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:18,950
that comes to $1.74 a

534
00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,990
week that's less than a pack of

535
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:25,039
cigarett

536
00:32:25,039 --> 00:32:31,110
that c that plus a coffee

537
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:33,159
24 cents a

538
00:32:33,159 --> 00:32:36,360
day I mean I have the number so just

539
00:32:36,360 --> 00:32:38,600
thror it out there for you just I'm

540
00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:40,559
trying to help you believe me I'm not

541
00:32:40,559 --> 00:32:44,710
trying to do anything

542
00:32:44,720 --> 00:32:46,880
negative when you're at this table next

543
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:47,919
year and you're going to be raising

544
00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:49,080
these rates

545
00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:50,880
double you're going to say I wish should

546
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,159
listen to Anthony

547
00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:55,279
Ferrari well actually Mr M I think

548
00:32:55,279 --> 00:32:56,679
that's a good point because I believe

549
00:32:56,679 --> 00:32:58,360
that last last year we didn't support

550
00:32:58,360 --> 00:33:01,039
what the mayor's budget um asked for in

551
00:33:01,039 --> 00:33:02,799
water sewer and trash and so that

552
00:33:02,799 --> 00:33:06,600
probably helped put us into more of a

553
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:11,880
water so that probably did exactly that

554
00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,679
put us into a you know a little bit of a

555
00:33:14,679 --> 00:33:16,279
pickle this year that's why we had a

556
00:33:16,279 --> 00:33:21,950
double this year the half plus the other

557
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:24,120
half just play out what you're saying

558
00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,120
for next year next year it's going to

559
00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:28,320
even double

560
00:33:28,320 --> 00:33:30,159
unless we increase our Revenue we should

561
00:33:30,159 --> 00:33:31,399
right work on that yeah well this how

562
00:33:31,399 --> 00:33:34,389
you increase your

563
00:33:34,399 --> 00:33:36,760
Revenue but your water sore is not a lot

564
00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,279
of places you

565
00:33:39,279 --> 00:33:55,149
can not a lot of places you can add

566
00:33:55,159 --> 00:33:58,600
Revenue this regard to a pilot um I

567
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,080
think we we didn't touch on that this

568
00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,960
year excuse me pilot um program can you

569
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,559
give us a little brief update on how

570
00:34:04,559 --> 00:34:06,360
it's going pilot program I think is at

571
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:11,200
2.5 million I got that number from

572
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:14,470
um

573
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:17,280
met

574
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,960
2.5 2.6 million 2550 that's what it

575
00:34:21,960 --> 00:34:26,399
was was payment W taxes yeah five m y 2

576
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:29,280
million 50 I got that number from Metro

577
00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:33,159
that is uh you know the deals that uh uh

578
00:34:33,159 --> 00:34:35,560
excuse me mayor what is that connect to

579
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:39,720
the F Well industrial the city

580
00:34:39,720 --> 00:34:41,240
Industrial Development agency and

581
00:34:41,240 --> 00:34:43,119
Metroplex are the two that are

582
00:34:43,119 --> 00:34:45,639
authorized to enter into pilot

583
00:34:45,639 --> 00:34:51,669
agreements econom development

584
00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:54,240
projects so uh that's the number of you

585
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:55,839
know Pilots we're going to be receiving

586
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:59,190
over this year

587
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:01,040
so mayor be clear that that's not part

588
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,839
of something that you're involved in as

589
00:35:03,839 --> 00:35:06,760
well I know you said the Ida in metlex

590
00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:09,560
so as the chief executive of the city

591
00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,119
then that's not something that um well I

592
00:35:12,119 --> 00:35:14,190
participate some of the discussions

593
00:35:14,190 --> 00:35:15,720
[Music]

594
00:35:15,720 --> 00:35:18,480
for lining up the deals or attracting

595
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,880
businesses here but the authority to

596
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:27,040
Grant the pilots are solely with

597
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:28,839
Metroplex and the city Industrial

598
00:35:28,839 --> 00:35:32,400
Development agency thank you well for

599
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:33,720
that matter the county Industrial

600
00:35:33,720 --> 00:35:36,960
Development agency also to do some in

601
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,320
the city we run everything through the

602
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:55,790
city

603
00:35:55,800 --> 00:36:15,630
agent

604
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:20,870
about

605
00:36:20,880 --> 00:36:25,710
next

606
00:36:25,720 --> 00:37:25,589
so

607
00:37:25,599 --> 00:38:11,150
for

608
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,319
how do we move

609
00:38:13,319 --> 00:38:16,720
forward I don't see I mean anyway around

610
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:20,000
if there's no movement on

611
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:22,720
um increasing the fees then we would

612
00:38:22,720 --> 00:38:25,079
have to take from the fund balance um it

613
00:38:25,079 --> 00:38:27,680
was brought up that we did do half last

614
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:29,560
year so I guess the other the other

615
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:33,280
consideration is do half this

616
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:37,790
year just putting that out there for the

617
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:42,599
best just start talking so I think my my

618
00:38:42,599 --> 00:38:44,079
position Still Remains that we should

619
00:38:44,079 --> 00:38:45,680
not increase the fund balance however as

620
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,599
I'm in hearing this information and

621
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,040
digesting it in real time make for

622
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,680
Anthony recognizes I'm not oblivious to

623
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:55,560
what's lying ahead uh I want to make

624
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,319
sure we're

625
00:38:58,319 --> 00:39:01,839
presenting this increase to the city um

626
00:39:01,839 --> 00:39:03,640
having taken additional steps so I guess

627
00:39:03,640 --> 00:39:05,920
my question is you mentioned

628
00:39:05,920 --> 00:39:09,359
9% and in the packet she highlights or

629
00:39:09,359 --> 00:39:12,000
this individual highlights 15.7 so it

630
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,640
was from 21 or

631
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:19,240
22 so if this 13 to 15% is the ideal

632
00:39:19,240 --> 00:39:21,839
metric correct and that 9% how do we

633
00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:23,440
bridge that

634
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440
Gap or

635
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,640
is

636
00:39:27,640 --> 00:39:29,839
that's if that's it worst case scenario

637
00:39:29,839 --> 00:39:31,359
if we use

638
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:34,880
23's um total fund balance and then what

639
00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,280
is um proposed by C counc for

640
00:39:38,280 --> 00:39:43,000
2024 so the proposed uh tax increases by

641
00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,839
the mayor does that exceed that gap of

642
00:39:45,839 --> 00:39:49,160
9% and the recommended 13 to 15% that's

643
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,040
my question if that makes

644
00:39:52,040 --> 00:39:54,760
sense let me just say the increase does

645
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,720
not go in a general fund it's strictly

646
00:39:56,720 --> 00:39:59,480
for water and sore what Mr M wanted to

647
00:39:59,480 --> 00:40:01,800
do was actually take money out of the

648
00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:04,680
general fund for water and sore but then

649
00:40:04,680 --> 00:40:07,400
there would be a a 2.5 million a $2.5

650
00:40:07,400 --> 00:40:09,839
million gap or $3 million gap which he

651
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:12,200
wanted to fund with reserves so that

652
00:40:12,200 --> 00:40:14,040
means right now I think if you look at

653
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,040
our 2024

654
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:19,040
budget uh we have uh in

655
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:21,200
2023 we've

656
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:23,680
uh allocated

657
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,560
the appropriate fund bonds of 4.5

658
00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:30,560
million and and now in 2024 just without

659
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,800
Mr M's suggestion we're at 4.1 million

660
00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,720
so it's taking the out of the 8.4

661
00:40:36,720 --> 00:40:39,760
million of unfunded of

662
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,880
unassigned we're going to be using uh

663
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,800
4.1 in

664
00:40:45,800 --> 00:40:49,480
4.5 uh 8.6 million so we're going to be

665
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,880
way over the 9 9% if you look at using

666
00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,839
that portion so much's left over that

667
00:40:55,839 --> 00:40:57,000
portion

668
00:40:57,000 --> 00:41:00,359
uh over the 109 million right is that

669
00:41:00,359 --> 00:41:02,960
how am I saying it right

670
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:07,280
there so you're taking the um and that's

671
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:10,200
not including 2.5 million balance

672
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:13,440
compared to the actual expenses uh for

673
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,160
the general operation and that's how you

674
00:41:16,160 --> 00:41:17,920
get the

675
00:41:17,920 --> 00:41:20,440
percentage right so show that the

676
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:23,319
percentage how did you figure it out um

677
00:41:23,319 --> 00:41:27,800
so for example um Council I

678
00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,000
believe give for the 2023 fund balance

679
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,960
um so both off the 18.9 million we

680
00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:40,640
read 20 was it 22

681
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:43,520
financials um if we take the 23 fund

682
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,920
outs of uh 4.5 million approximately

683
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:50,319
then um whether it is the uh council's

684
00:41:50,319 --> 00:41:53,000
proposed uh fund balance at

685
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:56,680
4.1 uh you reduce at 18.9 mlion by those

686
00:41:56,680 --> 00:41:58,440
two numbers you come up with

687
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:02,800
approximately 10 million 279 uh you do

688
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,800
the math uh divide that by the total

689
00:42:05,800 --> 00:42:08,800
expenses by the proposed um budget the

690
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:11,000
council uh Council changes and that's

691
00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,839
about

692
00:42:12,839 --> 00:42:15,440
9% and then if you add another 2.5

693
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,160
million that'll bring that 10 million

694
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,280
down to 8 million so divide 109 by 8

695
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,720
million we're looking at even a lesser

696
00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:27,119
less than 9%

697
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:33,230
so we way below the

698
00:42:33,240 --> 00:42:35,920
13% so what I'm saying is we save the

699
00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,280
2.5 million by raising the water soore

700
00:42:38,280 --> 00:42:40,319
rates that's what I'm saying instead of

701
00:42:40,319 --> 00:42:42,359
using the function which you're want to

702
00:42:42,359 --> 00:42:45,440
do like I say the next year you know you

703
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:49,880
have less of a worry about using funds

704
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:50,880
because now you don't have a fund

705
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:52,800
balance to rely on because you used it

706
00:42:52,800 --> 00:42:54,440
this year you're going to have to raise

707
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:57,559
a property tax waste you have to raise

708
00:42:57,559 --> 00:42:59,200
the water you G have to ra sore you're

709
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:00,960
can probably have to find some other

710
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:02,800
things you're GNA have to raise right I

711
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:04,599
understand the logic of that can you

712
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:06,720
provide or how quickly could you assess

713
00:43:06,720 --> 00:43:10,800
what increasing the taxes by 50% as Miss

714
00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:13,720
bfield highlighted

715
00:43:13,720 --> 00:43:15,240
50

716
00:43:15,240 --> 00:43:18,520
rates okay yeah you want us come back

717
00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:21,470
with

718
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,520
that

719
00:43:23,520 --> 00:43:28,520
Mo did you hear his request yes so we go

720
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,559
I think we better do our

721
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:33,319
computer you want to use the

722
00:43:33,319 --> 00:43:36,559
phone or or My

723
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:55,069
handwritten excuse

724
00:43:55,079 --> 00:44:00,069
us

725
00:44:00,079 --> 00:44:03,630
but realiz happens

726
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,079
unless City shut

727
00:44:06,079 --> 00:44:09,000
down I think we should do it tonight

728
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,880
oh okay I'm just saying to you it's not

729
00:44:11,880 --> 00:44:13,839
like andl just we don't have that the

730
00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:15,319
beginning of the year we have money to

731
00:44:15,319 --> 00:44:24,990
spend

732
00:44:25,000 --> 00:44:30,670
then

733
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:54,950
compan

734
00:44:54,960 --> 00:45:01,990
yet

735
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:25,109
[Music]

736
00:45:25,119 --> 00:45:27,880
I hope you have a lot of

737
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:29,000
do

738
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,000
actually I feel like I've been that's

739
00:45:31,000 --> 00:45:33,000
all I've been doing we were expecting

740
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:35,640
trick-or-treaters besides

741
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:41,790
and besides andw that what you

742
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,480
said she is expecting trick-or-treaters

743
00:45:44,480 --> 00:45:51,990
besides

744
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,880
you you want me to bring the Bowl here

745
00:45:54,880 --> 00:45:57,839
now maybe wait a little bit wait a

746
00:45:57,839 --> 00:46:03,710
little bit

747
00:46:03,720 --> 00:46:24,790
okay I did

748
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:38,460
too

749
00:46:38,470 --> 00:46:54,790
[Music]

750
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:25,069
for

751
00:47:25,079 --> 00:47:35,510
the

752
00:47:35,520 --> 00:47:54,710
[Music]

753
00:47:54,720 --> 00:48:05,210
yeah

754
00:48:05,220 --> 00:48:24,630
[Music]

755
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,559
oh

756
00:48:27,559 --> 00:48:31,549
I couldn't read these

757
00:48:31,559 --> 00:48:54,589
percentages anyway I

758
00:48:54,599 --> 00:49:24,510
know

759
00:49:24,520 --> 00:49:54,510
you

760
00:49:54,520 --> 00:50:19,460
for

761
00:50:19,470 --> 00:50:24,430
[Applause]

762
00:50:24,440 --> 00:50:33,150
for

763
00:50:33,160 --> 00:50:54,430
[Music]

764
00:50:54,440 --> 00:51:13,950
for

765
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:24,349
[Music]

766
00:51:24,359 --> 00:52:24,270
you

767
00:52:24,280 --> 00:52:43,060
for

768
00:52:43,070 --> 00:52:54,230
[Music]

769
00:52:54,240 --> 00:53:24,150
for

770
00:53:24,160 --> 00:53:54,150
right

771
00:53:54,160 --> 00:54:24,069
h

772
00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:41,880
for

773
00:54:41,890 --> 00:54:54,069
[Music]

774
00:54:54,079 --> 00:54:59,040
for

775
00:54:59,050 --> 00:55:20,520
[Applause]

776
00:55:20,530 --> 00:55:24,000
[Music]

777
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:53,990
minut

778
00:55:54,000 --> 00:56:10,620
this

779
00:56:10,630 --> 00:56:23,910
[Applause]

780
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:53,870
one

781
00:56:53,880 --> 00:57:23,789
right

782
00:57:23,799 --> 00:57:54,470
see

783
00:57:54,480 --> 00:58:23,710
there's

784
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:47,950
oh

785
00:58:47,960 --> 00:58:53,710
did

786
00:58:53,720 --> 00:59:23,630
not

787
00:59:23,640 --> 00:59:54,390
think

788
00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:23,549
she

789
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:53,510
for

790
01:00:53,520 --> 01:01:23,430
61

791
01:01:23,440 --> 01:02:23,349
for

792
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:53,349
EX

793
01:02:53,359 --> 01:03:23,269
for

794
01:03:23,279 --> 01:03:53,269
it's

795
01:03:53,279 --> 01:04:55,130
for

796
01:04:55,130 --> 01:05:23,069
[Music]

797
01:05:23,079 --> 01:05:37,750
what

798
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:53,069
[Music]

799
01:05:53,079 --> 01:07:22,910
for

800
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:52,910
there

801
01:07:52,920 --> 01:08:22,829
it's

802
01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:52,789
more

803
01:08:52,799 --> 01:09:01,789
yes

804
01:09:01,799 --> 01:09:03,189
is

805
01:09:03,189 --> 01:09:20,749
[Music]

806
01:09:20,759 --> 01:09:22,719
she this

807
01:09:22,719 --> 01:09:52,709
we

808
01:09:52,719 --> 01:10:22,630
like

809
01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:35,480
you

810
01:10:35,490 --> 01:10:52,630
[Music]

811
01:10:52,640 --> 01:11:03,560
for

812
01:11:03,570 --> 01:11:22,550
[Music]

813
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:52,550
18

814
01:11:52,560 --> 01:12:20,590
good

815
01:12:20,600 --> 01:12:22,480
[Music]

816
01:12:22,480 --> 01:12:40,149
spe

817
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:52,430
he just R him pass

818
01:12:52,440 --> 01:13:02,070
it

819
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:12,430
a waste in there just in case

820
01:13:12,440 --> 01:13:19,709
you

821
01:13:19,719 --> 01:13:26,780
coming this was 50% yeah

822
01:13:26,790 --> 01:13:33,110
[Applause]

823
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:38,000
okay let's uh let's start with the sore

824
01:13:38,000 --> 01:13:42,320
proposed s budget now a

825
01:13:42,320 --> 01:13:46,040
50% uh change in the sore

826
01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:50,280
budget uh so the city council changes uh

827
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,760
as you can see from the proposed 2024

828
01:13:52,760 --> 01:13:54,040
budget

829
01:13:54,040 --> 01:14:00,600
uh to 50% increase uh changes uh um the

830
01:14:00,600 --> 01:14:04,440
cost by 1.2 million

831
01:14:04,440 --> 01:14:06,199
1,261

832
01:14:06,199 --> 01:14:09,320
187 uh so to make up the difference

833
01:14:09,320 --> 01:14:10,480
we're we're going to have to use

834
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:12,239
appropriated fund balance from the shore

835
01:14:12,239 --> 01:14:16,590
Department of

836
01:14:16,600 --> 01:14:22,270
1,261 two

837
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:28,310
$261,900 has a has

838
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,120
a amount of

839
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:36,800
uh 3.1 million available so I I do not

840
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:38,960
see that's almost half I do not see you

841
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:42,440
going any over this more than

842
01:14:42,440 --> 01:14:47,600
this 1.61 million I would would like to

843
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:49,840
see a full 100% because when you come

844
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:51,360
here next year you're going to be doing

845
01:14:51,360 --> 01:14:53,560
the same thing all over again right

846
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:55,719
understand that Mr I just just wanted to

847
01:14:55,719 --> 01:14:59,990
rate I wanted to study that

848
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:04,639
again okay so in uh the Water Department

849
01:15:04,639 --> 01:15:15,990
M uh the 50% changes as you can see uh we're going from uh uh

850
01:15:16,000 --> 01:15:19,280
441,000 originally cutting in half by

851
01:15:19,280 --> 01:15:22,679
441,000 and we're using uh appropriated

852
01:15:22,679 --> 01:15:27,830
fund balance of

853
01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:33,159
$41,800 has 2.2 million available so

854
01:15:33,159 --> 01:15:35,639
we're going to be again I don't think we

855
01:15:35,639 --> 01:15:46,550
should go any lower than

856
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:49,880
that and the first last time I you're

857
01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:51,760
going to be here next year doing this

858
01:15:51,760 --> 01:15:54,080
whole thing all over again

859
01:15:54,080 --> 01:15:56,560
not going to mention it

860
01:15:56,560 --> 01:15:58,800
again unless we get more Revenue I'll

861
01:15:58,800 --> 01:16:00,480
mention that

862
01:16:00,480 --> 01:16:06,470
again

863
01:16:06,480 --> 01:16:08,440
soti

864
01:16:08,440 --> 01:16:10,639
count that could be

865
01:16:10,639 --> 01:16:12,800
too that's a good

866
01:16:12,800 --> 01:16:15,239
idea so this sheet here you have two

867
01:16:15,239 --> 01:16:17,880
water just to take Clarity that's we

868
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:19,199
brokee that in half to just show you

869
01:16:19,199 --> 01:16:22,520
what the cost would be uh for ear water

870
01:16:22,520 --> 01:16:24,239
rate increase be

871
01:16:24,239 --> 01:16:27,480
$8.13 S would be

872
01:16:27,480 --> 01:16:29,880
$370 broke it down to the day break it

873
01:16:29,880 --> 01:16:32,000
down to the day comes to 12 cents a day

874
01:16:32,000 --> 01:16:34,159
water and sore per

875
01:16:34,159 --> 01:16:38,239
unit so the one $9 is the weight just in

876
01:16:38,239 --> 01:16:41,480
case you guys want to increase waste by

877
01:16:41,480 --> 01:16:43,520
50% you

878
01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,679
know to take down the appropriated fund

879
01:16:46,679 --> 01:16:48,280
balance a little bit so we can move that

880
01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:49,760
a little bit I didn't figure out what

881
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:50,960
that was going to be but I thought I'd

882
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:52,600
throw it in there and try to help you

883
01:16:52,600 --> 01:16:53,760
yeah that's right

884
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:56,270
thank

885
01:16:56,280 --> 01:17:01,189
you Mr

886
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:04,000
will I think it's imperative to just

887
01:17:04,000 --> 01:17:06,480
identify that this is my second time

888
01:17:06,480 --> 01:17:08,800
going to the budget cycle and I very

889
01:17:08,800 --> 01:17:10,840
much I'm trying to shorten my learning

890
01:17:10,840 --> 01:17:13,280
curve but it becomes very apparent that

891
01:17:13,280 --> 01:17:14,560
there are some individuals that are

892
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,040
willing to make concessions and there

893
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:17,760
are other individuals that are standing

894
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,400
in their positions of 100% of the

895
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:25,239
mayor's proposed budget and I think that places these conversations at a

896
01:17:25,239 --> 01:17:27,679
lose lose element because we are all

897
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:30,639
sitting here trying to advocate for our

898
01:17:30,639 --> 01:17:32,440
positions and I truly understand that

899
01:17:32,440 --> 01:17:33,960
we're all here to do the good work of

900
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:37,280
the city but that is not negotiating and

901
01:17:37,280 --> 01:17:39,239
I am sitting here trying to in my

902
01:17:39,239 --> 01:17:41,560
position uh thread that needle and I do

903
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,400
not want to pit it at in us first thing

904
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:46,880
because that is not what we're doing the work for the city the

905
01:17:46,880 --> 01:17:49,040
resident of the city conect uh but it it

906
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:52,840
is clear when we hear I want this and I

907
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,400
want one at all and that that

908
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:56,840
unfortunately is not what I'm going to

909
01:17:56,840 --> 01:17:59,560
support uh I do understand and I I hear

910
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:01,960
your logic Mr Ferrari and I appreciate

911
01:18:01,960 --> 01:18:04,679
you've been uh broken record but for

912
01:18:04,679 --> 01:18:05,639
various

913
01:18:05,639 --> 01:18:07,760
reasons just trying I've been working

914
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:09,440
for the city for 40 years I lived there

915
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:11,480
all my life I'm looking for the the good

916
01:18:11,480 --> 01:18:15,679
of the city no I I I respect that uh I I

917
01:18:15,679 --> 01:18:17,560
would love to hear from Miss Patrick and

918
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:21,520
Mr Toro uh are you remaining and I want

919
01:18:21,520 --> 01:18:26,629
all of it or how do you respond to this

920
01:18:26,639 --> 01:18:30,800
50% go ahead please well I think that in

921
01:18:30,800 --> 01:18:33,600
my case I'd have to say that I trust the

922
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,639
expertise of the staff and I think that

923
01:18:36,639 --> 01:18:39,920
first of all last year we already didn't

924
01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,600
do that so I think that has um put us in

925
01:18:43,600 --> 01:18:46,320
a situation this year yes I'm going to

926
01:18:46,320 --> 01:18:48,639
pretty much remain solid about the

927
01:18:48,639 --> 01:18:50,880
police and the fire over time um I think

928
01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,199
it's a mistake to be cutting service

929
01:18:54,199 --> 01:18:55,920
um especially when it comes to Public

930
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,040
Safety I think you know when you think

931
01:18:58,040 --> 01:19:00,679
about the number of calls that um our

932
01:19:00,679 --> 01:19:03,080
teams are going out on um it actually

933
01:19:03,080 --> 01:19:04,960
increased by the way this weekend from

934
01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:06,320
last weekend which was already

935
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,520
ridiculous but um you know I found out

936
01:19:09,520 --> 01:19:11,880
the numbers today of of of this weekend

937
01:19:11,880 --> 01:19:14,639
it was up even higher um so I mean you

938
01:19:14,639 --> 01:19:17,840
know if you cut the police and fire

939
01:19:17,840 --> 01:19:19,280
overtime we're just going to have to

940
01:19:19,280 --> 01:19:21,480
come back um I don't know how many

941
01:19:21,480 --> 01:19:23,639
months in to do an amendment because

942
01:19:23,639 --> 01:19:25,520
again the fire we already know it's

943
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,679
contractual so we're going to have to

944
01:19:27,679 --> 01:19:30,679
come up with the money anyway um so in

945
01:19:30,679 --> 01:19:32,840
that sense

946
01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,639
um you

947
01:19:34,639 --> 01:19:38,000
know that's that's my

948
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:40,679
position you yeah I just want to just

949
01:19:40,679 --> 01:19:42,480
like really um mention about the the

950
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:43,760
police budget because every keeps

951
01:19:43,760 --> 01:19:45,280
talking about cutting cutting cutting

952
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:47,040
and I want to just make sure that we

953
01:19:47,040 --> 01:19:49,120
understand that this year's budget is

954
01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:50,960
more than last year's budget it's the

955
01:19:50,960 --> 01:19:53,120
largest budget that police and in the

956
01:19:53,120 --> 01:19:55,440
history of the city of SK so it's not

957
01:19:55,440 --> 01:19:57,120
that we're cutting their budget we're

958
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,800
not we're not ask we're not giving

959
01:19:58,800 --> 01:20:00,120
everything that they're asked for and

960
01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:01,360
that's two different things so I just

961
01:20:01,360 --> 01:20:03,120
want to make sure that language is clear

962
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,040
because cutting sounds like we went in

963
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:06,400
we took away something that they already

964
01:20:06,400 --> 01:20:08,440
had and that's not what happened what

965
01:20:08,440 --> 01:20:10,560
happened was they asked for this amount

966
01:20:10,560 --> 01:20:12,840
of increase and we reduce the amount of

967
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:14,520
increase that was asked for not their

968
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,360
budget I will clarify what I said that I

969
01:20:17,360 --> 01:20:20,040
just meant that we're decreasing what

970
01:20:20,040 --> 01:20:22,679
they need yes what they ask for so I

971
01:20:22,679 --> 01:20:24,000
just want to be clear because I've heard

972
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:25,560
that conversation that we're cutting

973
01:20:25,560 --> 01:20:27,159
their budget and that's really not what

974
01:20:27,159 --> 01:20:29,199
is what what has happened here well

975
01:20:29,199 --> 01:20:31,199
we're decreasing from what we're we're

976
01:20:31,199 --> 01:20:33,280
cutting from what they've asked us for

977
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,040
so that that's that's a reduction of

978
01:20:35,040 --> 01:20:36,600
their ask which is what part of

979
01:20:36,600 --> 01:20:38,320
budgeting is but it's not cutting their

980
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,520
budget so that's a different story yeah

981
01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,800
but I guess I would have to suggest that

982
01:20:42,800 --> 01:20:44,800
I think the chief of police and the fire

983
01:20:44,800 --> 01:20:48,159
chief have given us realistic numbers in

984
01:20:48,159 --> 01:20:50,360
their budget estimate based on what

985
01:20:50,360 --> 01:20:53,159
they've spent in the past well they well

986
01:20:53,159 --> 01:20:54,960
so last year we also reduced the budget

987
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:57,239
so um so just putting that out there but

988
01:20:57,239 --> 01:20:58,320
I just want to be clear we're not

989
01:20:58,320 --> 01:21:00,159
reducing what they ear are getting I

990
01:21:00,159 --> 01:21:01,760
just want to make sure that everybody

991
01:21:01,760 --> 01:21:04,239
understands that and and again I think

992
01:21:04,239 --> 01:21:06,280
it's important to identify there are no

993
01:21:06,280 --> 01:21:09,400
reductions in services from my position

994
01:21:09,400 --> 01:21:12,520
what I'm challenging them to is there

995
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:14,239
are vacant positions that can be

996
01:21:14,239 --> 01:21:18,840
utilized to uh subsidize the um not

997
01:21:18,840 --> 01:21:21,440
getting their fulles and as you heard

998
01:21:21,440 --> 01:21:23,239
from Chief Marino he said said at

999
01:21:23,239 --> 01:21:25,880
verbatim there is wiggle room or he said

1000
01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:29,679
that there is a a room to um eban flow

1001
01:21:29,679 --> 01:21:32,159
and my challenge is why are we going to

1002
01:21:32,159 --> 01:21:33,880
overg give when we can utilize that

1003
01:21:33,880 --> 01:21:36,159
money to reduce some of the ass to the

1004
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:39,000
community and again if they do need more

1005
01:21:39,000 --> 01:21:41,520
then we can come back and amend the

1006
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:45,120
budget but at this present time I I feel

1007
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:47,080
those same angs that you have for

1008
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,159
attributing attacks of this magnitude to

1009
01:21:49,159 --> 01:21:51,320
the community and although I understand

1010
01:21:51,320 --> 01:21:53,480
Mr Ferrari that

1011
01:21:53,480 --> 01:21:55,320
comparatively speaking the waste

1012
01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,400
increase at 50% is $39 the water rate

1013
01:21:58,400 --> 01:22:01,199
increase is $8 the sewer rate increase

1014
01:22:01,199 --> 01:22:03,679
would be $37 these are not the only

1015
01:22:03,679 --> 01:22:05,920
expenses that households are feeling gas

1016
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:08,600
is also going up food is also going up

1017
01:22:08,600 --> 01:22:10,639
rinse also going up and I think it's

1018
01:22:10,639 --> 01:22:12,360
important to recognize the cumulative

1019
01:22:12,360 --> 01:22:14,560
effect of all of these increases and

1020
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,040
that is what I'm trying to make sure I

1021
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:18,960
position myself where I can go to these

1022
01:22:18,960 --> 01:22:22,159
doors and if anyone asks me present a

1023
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:28,270
fair argument of where I

1024
01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:30,600
say except for one thing none of this

1025
01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,960
does anything to to decrease the tax

1026
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,159
rate the water and sewage funds are

1027
01:22:35,159 --> 01:22:38,360
separate from the General Revenue area

1028
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,400
so cutting in those has nothing to do

1029
01:22:40,400 --> 01:22:43,040
with water and sewage done nothing here

1030
01:22:43,040 --> 01:22:45,239
to reduce taxes done nothing here to

1031
01:22:45,239 --> 01:22:47,520
reduce the deficit all that was done was

1032
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:50,880
Shuffle money around and honestly

1033
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:52,800
increase positions in certain certain

1034
01:22:52,800 --> 01:22:57,239
areas and give raises so there was no

1035
01:22:57,239 --> 01:23:02,320
real impact at all to the tax rate so

1036
01:23:02,320 --> 01:23:04,320
other than the water and sewage which is

1037
01:23:04,320 --> 01:23:06,159
separate from these so they're two

1038
01:23:06,159 --> 01:23:09,520
separate entities Al together so what

1039
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:12,320
you said is nice it would be great if

1040
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:14,199
that's how it worked but it

1041
01:23:14,199 --> 01:23:16,400
doesn't but it does work to the degree

1042
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:18,600
that the taxpayers will have to pay this

1043
01:23:18,600 --> 01:23:20,080
additional money it does work to that

1044
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:21,760
degree so the mayor himself said we

1045
01:23:21,760 --> 01:23:23,080
talked about it

1046
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,239
when in fact when we Tred to spend he

1047
01:23:25,239 --> 01:23:27,880
was talking about the as was Miss

1048
01:23:27,880 --> 01:23:30,120
Patrick the overtime budget and the

1049
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,400
impact they're two separate entities all

1050
01:23:32,400 --> 01:23:35,080
together but in fact taxpayers will have

1051
01:23:35,080 --> 01:23:37,320
to pay more do you agree or disagree if

1052
01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:39,120
we increase the water andur funds do

1053
01:23:39,120 --> 01:23:51,470
they or

1054
01:23:51,480 --> 01:23:56,070
not

1055
01:23:56,080 --> 01:24:00,760
Mr um I we just I was just ready to

1056
01:24:00,760 --> 01:24:02,760
comment on the swer fees and the water

1057
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:04,800
fees here not on everything else right

1058
01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,520
now but I thought that's what we were

1059
01:24:07,520 --> 01:24:11,840
addressing at this moment so um as a

1060
01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:14,280
homeowner business owner with multiple

1061
01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:17,719
properties here in the city and yes um

1062
01:24:17,719 --> 01:24:20,480
the cost of everything going up I myself

1063
01:24:20,480 --> 01:24:22,560
personally wouldn't mind budgeting this

1064
01:24:22,560 --> 01:24:24,320
year for the total amount that's

1065
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,679
proposed in the mayor's budget and then

1066
01:24:26,679 --> 01:24:28,760
moving forward knowing next year I may

1067
01:24:28,760 --> 01:24:31,000
have to budget again for some additional

1068
01:24:31,000 --> 01:24:33,760
amounts because of all the rising costs

1069
01:24:33,760 --> 01:24:34,639
so I

1070
01:24:34,639 --> 01:24:37,120
am okay with what was proposed in the

1071
01:24:37,120 --> 01:24:42,109
mayor's

1072
01:24:42,119 --> 01:24:46,280
budget Mr Williams I appreciate um you

1073
01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:48,960
uh making a suggestion to do 50% for

1074
01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:53,239
water and 50% for silver it is no secret

1075
01:24:53,239 --> 01:24:55,119
that I made it very clear that I don't

1076
01:24:55,119 --> 01:24:57,669
favor

1077
01:24:57,679 --> 01:25:00,920
increasing taxes or passing in the cost

1078
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:01,960
tax

1079
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:04,239
pays we I have made it very clear that

1080
01:25:04,239 --> 01:25:05,719
we need to look at the budget and to

1081
01:25:05,719 --> 01:25:09,199
make cuts across board so that we can

1082
01:25:09,199 --> 01:25:12,000
able to reduce the burden on tax

1083
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:15,360
payers um we cannot continue to spend

1084
01:25:15,360 --> 01:25:17,320
and pass the cost on the

1085
01:25:17,320 --> 01:25:20,880
taxpayers we as a council we need

1086
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:23,639
to be help accountable and we need to

1087
01:25:23,639 --> 01:25:25,239
report to our taxpayer that's why they

1088
01:25:25,239 --> 01:25:29,320
put us here uh we need to make

1089
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:31,639
concession if I if I'm willing to move

1090
01:25:31,639 --> 01:25:33,199
forward with this I need we need to

1091
01:25:33,199 --> 01:25:35,920
address the open fills that we have in

1092
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,440
2023 that we carrying in 20

1093
01:25:38,440 --> 01:25:41,560
2024 and we also need to look at the um

1094
01:25:41,560 --> 01:25:48,350
the new F that we have for 2024

1095
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:52,320
budget we cannot cannot continue to pass

1096
01:25:52,320 --> 01:25:55,320
Bo non taxpayers and we seem so like

1097
01:25:55,320 --> 01:26:01,109
don't have an history increasing our

1098
01:26:01,119 --> 01:26:03,480
spending so Mr I just wanted to clear

1099
01:26:03,480 --> 01:26:07,040
you so if if you if we do the increase

1100
01:26:07,040 --> 01:26:08,159
and right now we're talking about water

1101
01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:11,040
and sour so I'm going to stay there um

1102
01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,400
are are you saying that we need to

1103
01:26:12,400 --> 01:26:16,440
revisit the um the positions that were

1104
01:26:16,440 --> 01:26:18,960
that we talked about before and reduce

1105
01:26:18,960 --> 01:26:21,199
more positions is that what you're

1106
01:26:21,199 --> 01:26:24,159
saying yes we should revisit look at the

1107
01:26:24,159 --> 01:26:27,320
pills we have in 2023 that we aning and

1108
01:26:27,320 --> 01:26:28,880
look at the new hires that we carrying

1109
01:26:28,880 --> 01:26:32,790
what we proposed in the

1110
01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:37,669
2024 do we really need all this

1111
01:26:37,679 --> 01:26:42,950
position where is the cost

1112
01:26:42,960 --> 01:26:45,800
saving and by doing that we can able to

1113
01:26:45,800 --> 01:26:48,040
you know look we look at the U the

1114
01:26:48,040 --> 01:26:51,189
police and fire

1115
01:26:51,199 --> 01:26:53,040
time

1116
01:26:53,040 --> 01:26:55,159
but at this point in time I am not going

1117
01:26:55,159 --> 01:26:58,239
I mean with all due respect Mr Williams

1118
01:26:58,239 --> 01:27:21,109
I I'm not supporting

1119
01:27:21,119 --> 01:27:41,270
this

1120
01:27:41,280 --> 01:27:43,360
so it seems like we're an impath so what

1121
01:27:43,360 --> 01:27:45,360
are you suggesting that we just leave it

1122
01:27:45,360 --> 01:27:51,119
as is and Mr mud Mr Williams um Mr

1123
01:27:51,119 --> 01:27:55,750
palini uh finance

1124
01:27:55,760 --> 01:27:58,760
committee needs need to know where what

1125
01:27:58,760 --> 01:28:01,520
your positioning is and um because it

1126
01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:02,719
would be ideal if we could pass the

1127
01:28:02,719 --> 01:28:04,639
budget I don't know

1128
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:06,760
Miss we

1129
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,480
have it it's our biggest responsibility

1130
01:28:09,480 --> 01:28:11,960
I would say city council why we're

1131
01:28:11,960 --> 01:28:16,000
trying to get there and um and I I

1132
01:28:16,000 --> 01:28:18,560
appreciate what you always say about um

1133
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,639
you know that we're counting on our um

1134
01:28:21,639 --> 01:28:23,280
experts but it is part of our

1135
01:28:23,280 --> 01:28:24,719
responsibility to review those things

1136
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:27,000
and see where we can make reasonable

1137
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:28,760
reductions in order to pass the budget

1138
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:31,239
and not to pass as um much onto our

1139
01:28:31,239 --> 01:28:32,960
taxpayers if necessary and I think it's

1140
01:28:32,960 --> 01:28:34,719
also a responsibility and we should

1141
01:28:34,719 --> 01:28:36,320
probably do more of it next year when

1142
01:28:36,320 --> 01:28:38,280
we're negotiating various agreements

1143
01:28:38,280 --> 01:28:40,480
that we do more

1144
01:28:40,480 --> 01:28:43,119
to to bring in Revenue so that's also a

1145
01:28:43,119 --> 01:28:45,880
part of our uh as we look at the budget

1146
01:28:45,880 --> 01:28:47,560
unfortunately we only do this yearly and

1147
01:28:47,560 --> 01:28:49,199
so maybe we'll just do this quarterly

1148
01:28:49,199 --> 01:28:51,400
and just kind of see where we are and

1149
01:28:51,400 --> 01:28:53,119
take the temperature during during the

1150
01:28:53,119 --> 01:28:54,480
year to see where we're going to end up

1151
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:55,880
at the end of the

1152
01:28:55,880 --> 01:28:59,920
year so we're here right now Mr mudaron

1153
01:28:59,920 --> 01:29:04,520
is not supporting an increas at all so

1154
01:29:04,520 --> 01:29:20,910
uh and Mr F hasn't

1155
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:32,300
said

1156
01:29:32,310 --> 01:29:34,760
[Music]

1157
01:29:34,760 --> 01:29:37,679
so if I can just so we're discussing

1158
01:29:37,679 --> 01:29:39,480
this particular increase but I've heard

1159
01:29:39,480 --> 01:29:41,159
conversations about the other things so

1160
01:29:41,159 --> 01:29:43,119
let me just um ask this question of all

1161
01:29:43,119 --> 01:29:45,840
council members you're willing to answer

1162
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,679
if we get to the point where we said

1163
01:29:47,679 --> 01:29:51,440
like we can um increase the re andur by

1164
01:29:51,440 --> 01:29:53,280
half by

1165
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,800
50% does that put other council members

1166
01:29:55,800 --> 01:29:56,880
in a position where they're willing to

1167
01:29:56,880 --> 01:29:59,600
vote for the budget so I think I need to

1168
01:29:59,600 --> 01:30:02,870
ask that

1169
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:06,679
question Mr I know you're creating

1170
01:30:06,679 --> 01:30:08,719
structural deficits in here that puts

1171
01:30:08,719 --> 01:30:12,119
the city on a path to bankruptcy and you

1172
01:30:12,119 --> 01:30:14,440
know I can't go for that

1173
01:30:14,440 --> 01:30:19,790
okay I not at this point okay

1174
01:30:19,800 --> 01:30:22,760
Mr made my point very clear

1175
01:30:22,760 --> 01:30:25,000
if what Mr Li

1176
01:30:25,000 --> 01:30:27,080
suggested

1177
01:30:27,080 --> 01:30:30,520
it's concession on Mr Li side but we

1178
01:30:30,520 --> 01:30:32,960
also need to make concession on the on

1179
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:35,679
the other side where we can make some

1180
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:37,400
other additional

1181
01:30:37,400 --> 01:30:39,600
reduction and we look at the police and

1182
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:42,000
file over time

1183
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:45,679
to inser of 350 to look at that if we

1184
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:48,320
can reduce that

1185
01:30:48,320 --> 01:30:50,840
reduction fun

1186
01:30:50,840 --> 01:30:55,510
time

1187
01:30:55,520 --> 01:31:02,350
[Music]

1188
01:31:02,360 --> 01:31:04,840
well we need two vots to get out of

1189
01:31:04,840 --> 01:31:07,880
committee not getting out of

1190
01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:10,719
committee so I can ask a question so Mr

1191
01:31:10,719 --> 01:31:13,040
camia you wouldn't vote on the budget

1192
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:14,760
with the

1193
01:31:14,760 --> 01:31:17,880
100% uh fee increases proposed by by the

1194
01:31:17,880 --> 01:31:20,400
mayor don't know yet because we wouldn't

1195
01:31:20,400 --> 01:31:31,629
have a budget at that point

1196
01:31:31,639 --> 01:31:33,360
what do you mean that we if if we

1197
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:35,080
increase I'll look at that when I see

1198
01:31:35,080 --> 01:31:36,360
the entire budget oh when you see the

1199
01:31:36,360 --> 01:31:37,960
entire budget okay just want to be clear

1200
01:31:37,960 --> 01:31:39,159
on what you meant by we wouldn't have a

1201
01:31:39,159 --> 01:31:44,350
budget so

1202
01:31:44,360 --> 01:31:46,800
um I be I would be willing to go with

1203
01:31:46,800 --> 01:31:48,880
that 50% the sore and water but it looks

1204
01:31:48,880 --> 01:31:49,920
like this is not going to get out of

1205
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:52,920
committee so Mr uh chair Finance we have

1206
01:31:52,920 --> 01:32:00,030
to how would you like like to

1207
01:32:00,040 --> 01:32:02,960
proceed since there's an impa I'm

1208
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:05,480
suggesting that we reset don't we have a

1209
01:32:05,480 --> 01:32:07,880
special meeting tomorrow yes we do but

1210
01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:10,320
we what What will what will change

1211
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,440
between today and tomorrow what will

1212
01:32:12,440 --> 01:32:14,360
change what would change to bring us

1213
01:32:14,360 --> 01:32:16,199
back tomorrow I guess that's what I'm

1214
01:32:16,199 --> 01:32:17,639
saying well have made suggestion in

1215
01:32:17,639 --> 01:32:21,239
terms of let's r that the u3 fils so

1216
01:32:21,239 --> 01:32:22,760
we're not

1217
01:32:22,760 --> 01:32:24,440
and let's look at the 2004 that you're

1218
01:32:24,440 --> 01:32:25,600
adding into the

1219
01:32:25,600 --> 01:32:28,440
budget can we do that now can we do that

1220
01:32:28,440 --> 01:32:31,480
now I don't know nobody answered here

1221
01:32:31,480 --> 01:32:33,000
nobody made a suggestion where is the

1222
01:32:33,000 --> 01:32:34,920
other side I mean a concession was made

1223
01:32:34,920 --> 01:32:38,199
by Mr Williams what are you suggest what

1224
01:32:38,199 --> 01:32:40,800
are you suggesting as concessions that's

1225
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:43,159
what they suggested I'll make a

1226
01:32:43,159 --> 01:32:46,239
suggestion you cut the uh salary

1227
01:32:46,239 --> 01:32:49,560
increase the council and also cut the uh

1228
01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:51,639
health insurance benefit for the C

1229
01:32:51,639 --> 01:32:53,639
council members that's I believe the

1230
01:32:53,639 --> 01:32:56,480
only part-time positions in the city to

1231
01:32:56,480 --> 01:32:59,159
actually get health insurance and I

1232
01:32:59,159 --> 01:33:04,590
think that would

1233
01:33:04,600 --> 01:33:07,629
be

1234
01:33:07,639 --> 01:33:09,600
$85,000 how much of a difference would

1235
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:11,960
that make towards we're looking to start

1236
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:15,600
you want concessions so there you go so

1237
01:33:15,600 --> 01:33:17,880
with that you vote to support this side

1238
01:33:17,880 --> 01:33:20,560
committee that's just the

1239
01:33:20,560 --> 01:33:33,510
beginning

1240
01:33:33,520 --> 01:33:34,880
I mean if

1241
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:38,880
that's we're talking $85,000 cup and you

1242
01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:41,840
want to use that and put it in a line

1243
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:45,159
towards uh a deficit reduction I'll be

1244
01:33:45,159 --> 01:33:47,119
happy with

1245
01:33:47,119 --> 01:33:51,320
that we need many more 84,000 well Mr

1246
01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,080
William asked me what I

1247
01:33:54,080 --> 01:34:06,910
was so I would be okay with

1248
01:34:06,920 --> 01:34:15,510
that one thing would there be anything

1249
01:34:15,520 --> 01:34:18,760
else I think we could probably cut a

1250
01:34:18,760 --> 01:34:20,280
position or

1251
01:34:20,280 --> 01:34:23,639
so and the clerk's office then I would

1252
01:34:23,639 --> 01:34:24,760
say if we're going to revisit the

1253
01:34:24,760 --> 01:34:26,760
positions then I would say be returning

1254
01:34:26,760 --> 01:34:29,159
to M suggestion of revisiting all of

1255
01:34:29,159 --> 01:34:31,880
them which I'm truly not trying to do

1256
01:34:31,880 --> 01:34:35,119
you asked me I just offering

1257
01:34:35,119 --> 01:34:36,920
suggestions then I would say have two

1258
01:34:36,920 --> 01:34:38,960
council members on the uh committee

1259
01:34:38,960 --> 01:34:40,880
would like to revisit the positions then

1260
01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:44,870
revisit the

1261
01:34:44,880 --> 01:34:47,639
positions so let's if if that's going to

1262
01:34:47,639 --> 01:34:49,159
happen I'm not sure it's going to happen

1263
01:34:49,159 --> 01:34:52,000
tonight or not let's talk about what is

1264
01:34:52,000 --> 01:34:54,159
the gap that we need to

1265
01:34:54,159 --> 01:34:57,199
fill you don't know you have no

1266
01:34:57,199 --> 01:35:00,400
idea cuz we we really need to I thought

1267
01:35:00,400 --> 01:35:04,149
we were that we're

1268
01:35:04,159 --> 01:35:06,199
not well if you're willing to move

1269
01:35:06,199 --> 01:35:08,199
forward with the increases in the water

1270
01:35:08,199 --> 01:35:12,040
and the sewage and cutting the uh salary

1271
01:35:12,040 --> 01:35:14,440
increase in the the health insurance I

1272
01:35:14,440 --> 01:35:16,480
would be support

1273
01:35:16,480 --> 01:35:19,119
that cuz that was what you were getting

1274
01:35:19,119 --> 01:35:22,600
to so I will support that can you repeat

1275
01:35:22,600 --> 01:35:23,520
that

1276
01:35:23,520 --> 01:35:26,400
again getting R of the council salary

1277
01:35:26,400 --> 01:35:28,840
increases as well as cutting the health

1278
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:37,590
insurance benefits for council

1279
01:35:37,600 --> 01:35:40,840
members for what's that I would have a

1280
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:42,600
hard time um cutting the health

1281
01:35:42,600 --> 01:35:45,280
insurance for City Council Members I'd

1282
01:35:45,280 --> 01:35:47,560
be happy to C cut the salary increase

1283
01:35:47,560 --> 01:35:50,390
for council

1284
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,800
members

1285
01:35:52,800 --> 01:35:55,320
so we're still at like there's a major

1286
01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:59,800
Gap if we're you know if if we even that

1287
01:35:59,800 --> 01:36:01,159
that's just done the fun so we really

1288
01:36:01,159 --> 01:36:02,880
need to if we're seriously talking about

1289
01:36:02,880 --> 01:36:04,400
making some adjustments here we have to

1290
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,199
seriously look at places that's going to

1291
01:36:06,199 --> 01:36:08,440
really make a difference and we can get

1292
01:36:08,440 --> 01:36:10,719
to a place where we can get a a budget

1293
01:36:10,719 --> 01:36:15,360
pass so um Mr M um you know you are the

1294
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:16,760
chair Finance

1295
01:36:16,760 --> 01:36:19,360
so leaving this in your hands but you

1296
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,840
know we all if we all have to I think

1297
01:36:22,840 --> 01:36:26,400
provide input and what we're we're

1298
01:36:26,400 --> 01:36:30,159
willing to um make movement and um

1299
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:30,960
sometimes they're not going to

1300
01:36:30,960 --> 01:36:32,000
everybody's not going to get everything

1301
01:36:32,000 --> 01:36:34,880
that they want and I'm certainly not

1302
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:37,080
necessarily in favor of just passing the

1303
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:39,760
budget that the may put forward um I

1304
01:36:39,760 --> 01:36:41,040
don't think that's ever happened since

1305
01:36:41,040 --> 01:36:42,480
I've been on the council where the

1306
01:36:42,480 --> 01:36:43,880
budget just been moved forward we've

1307
01:36:43,880 --> 01:36:46,239
made decreases we've made um reductions

1308
01:36:46,239 --> 01:36:50,440
before and and we're still standing so I

1309
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:52,360
think we have the serious to look and

1310
01:36:52,360 --> 01:36:55,119
see where people are willing

1311
01:36:55,119 --> 01:36:58,560
to look at making either reductions or

1312
01:36:58,560 --> 01:37:01,030
agreeing that they will

1313
01:37:01,030 --> 01:37:03,320
[Music]

1314
01:37:03,320 --> 01:37:05,600
um other Cuts have been made and so

1315
01:37:05,600 --> 01:37:08,520
therefore people who are standing firm

1316
01:37:08,520 --> 01:37:10,480
um look at there have been concessions

1317
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:13,760
made and are just not standing with 100%

1318
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:14,880
what the the budget that the mayor's

1319
01:37:14,880 --> 01:37:16,800
been forward respect that that's the

1320
01:37:16,800 --> 01:37:18,600
mayor's responsibility but also respect

1321
01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,199
that it's our responsibility to review

1322
01:37:20,199 --> 01:37:30,070
it

1323
01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,239
so I'm happy to go back over the

1324
01:37:32,239 --> 01:37:33,719
positions I mean the thing that I really

1325
01:37:33,719 --> 01:37:35,719
don't want to see happen is the police

1326
01:37:35,719 --> 01:37:38,040
and fire over

1327
01:37:38,040 --> 01:37:43,560
time well based on what the decreases that the that other folks

1328
01:37:43,560 --> 01:37:45,280
on the council are suggesting those are

1329
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,360
the two things that I'm very concerned

1330
01:37:48,360 --> 01:37:51,920
about that's part sorry sorry that is

1331
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:54,480
part of my concession in terms of U

1332
01:37:54,480 --> 01:37:58,159
let's revisit the um 2023 highight and

1333
01:37:58,159 --> 01:38:01,119
2024 new fill and whatever savings we

1334
01:38:01,119 --> 01:38:02,719
get there we can push it back towards

1335
01:38:02,719 --> 01:38:04,960
the police and I didn't hear you say

1336
01:38:04,960 --> 01:38:07,719
that I made that very clear here because

1337
01:38:07,719 --> 01:38:10,320
at this point in

1338
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:13,280
time there's no reason for us to roll

1339
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:15,920
these position over fund them we're

1340
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:17,360
having a hard time F them and then

1341
01:38:17,360 --> 01:38:19,280
adding more into 2024 I'm sorry I didn't

1342
01:38:19,280 --> 01:38:21,599
hear you say that and then look at the

1343
01:38:21,599 --> 01:38:29,270
savings from that and then push it back

1344
01:38:29,280 --> 01:38:32,320
fight so some of us I mean Mr Willams

1345
01:38:32,320 --> 01:38:33,639
are making concession we're making

1346
01:38:33,639 --> 01:38:35,360
concession we all need to come together

1347
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:38,080
as one it's hard we cannot just dig our

1348
01:38:38,080 --> 01:38:40,639
heels in a sand and say well the budget

1349
01:38:40,639 --> 01:38:44,159
is okay may position May has a right to

1350
01:38:44,159 --> 01:38:46,159
present his budget and he has a right to

1351
01:38:46,159 --> 01:38:49,080
say he doesn't want any c if you were

1352
01:38:49,080 --> 01:38:50,360
the mayor or I'm the mayor I would do

1353
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:54,040
the same thing my budget is good and for

1354
01:38:54,040 --> 01:38:56,960
it is our responsibility to the taxpayer

1355
01:38:56,960 --> 01:38:58,719
to look out for their best

1356
01:38:58,719 --> 01:39:01,560
interest and that is our job here as

1357
01:39:01,560 --> 01:39:04,920
seven of us here we need to do

1358
01:39:04,920 --> 01:39:07,560
that and if we sit here and we can't out

1359
01:39:07,560 --> 01:39:19,070
for them what is the purpose of us being

1360
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:22,599
here I'm waiting for us to to revisit

1361
01:39:22,599 --> 01:39:28,599
the the updated um sheet for the 20 23

1362
01:39:28,599 --> 01:39:31,719
vacancies and to also look at the 2024

1363
01:39:31,719 --> 01:39:34,679
um new fills that are being proposed we

1364
01:39:34,679 --> 01:39:36,159
can go through it today we can go

1365
01:39:36,159 --> 01:39:39,239
through it tomorrow I have no is to with

1366
01:39:39,239 --> 01:39:41,599
that go ahead please no this is actually

1367
01:39:41,599 --> 01:39:43,800
the most talking we've done so i' say

1368
01:39:43,800 --> 01:39:49,599
stay uh definitely uh I appreciate the comments from both both parts I just

1369
01:39:49,599 --> 01:39:51,199
want to get some clarity is that is that

1370
01:39:51,199 --> 01:39:54,199
an addition to the proposed Water and

1371
01:39:54,199 --> 01:39:56,040
Sewer increases or you talking about in

1372
01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:58,990
replacement of

1373
01:39:59,000 --> 01:40:01,520
those well we we can address it side by

1374
01:40:01,520 --> 01:40:04,960
side and look at it okay and narrow

1375
01:40:04,960 --> 01:40:07,360
it so at this point time you're not

1376
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:10,760
necessarily against um only 50% or so

1377
01:40:10,760 --> 01:40:12,040
you just want to look at everything in

1378
01:40:12,040 --> 01:40:15,760
this entirety yes both water 50% that Mr

1379
01:40:15,760 --> 01:40:18,520
William suggested and let's look at some

1380
01:40:18,520 --> 01:40:21,000
session on the vacancies and new fills

1381
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:22,280
and then we'll look at it side by side

1382
01:40:22,280 --> 01:40:25,599
and see where we are okay and if I can

1383
01:40:25,599 --> 01:40:28,560
support that 50% or maybe I suggest a

1384
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:36,830
little

1385
01:40:36,840 --> 01:40:39,119
more I'm happy to keep

1386
01:40:39,119 --> 01:40:42,390
going this

1387
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:45,990
evening and look at

1388
01:40:46,000 --> 01:40:47,679
that

1389
01:40:47,679 --> 01:40:52,520
so everyone has all if you want to

1390
01:40:52,520 --> 01:40:54,560
there was an updated sheet on on the on

1391
01:40:54,560 --> 01:41:02,629
the fil vacancies yeah

1392
01:41:02,639 --> 01:41:19,830
2024 I think it's these three

1393
01:41:19,840 --> 01:41:24,640
pieces do everybody have

1394
01:41:24,650 --> 01:41:44,020
[Music]

1395
01:41:44,030 --> 01:41:49,830
[Applause]

1396
01:41:49,840 --> 01:41:52,560
it

1397
01:41:52,560 --> 01:41:54,239
so miss mik who's going to make copies

1398
01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:57,480
for anyone that doesn't have them

1399
01:41:57,480 --> 01:41:59,800
right we have this up data because we

1400
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,080
had remove a few I think we just removed

1401
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:04,080
the ips3 for

1402
01:42:04,080 --> 01:42:06,040
it I

1403
01:42:06,040 --> 01:42:11,229
think equipment operator was also

1404
01:42:11,239 --> 01:42:15,520
removed was on the moo equipment oh yes

1405
01:42:15,520 --> 01:42:19,760
M Equipment Operator mechanic one

1406
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:21,560
is

1407
01:42:21,560 --> 01:42:22,400
I

1408
01:42:22,400 --> 01:42:27,639
think right to there one that was

1409
01:42:27,639 --> 01:42:31,480
removed REM two two removed I think

1410
01:42:31,480 --> 01:42:33,960
you're right that

1411
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:35,679
motor

1412
01:42:35,679 --> 01:42:39,990
M motor equipment operator

1413
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:43,880
mechanic3 that's what the may suggest um

1414
01:42:43,880 --> 01:42:46,080
and then then that that means we'd have

1415
01:42:46,080 --> 01:42:47,840
to put back in the

1416
01:42:47,840 --> 01:42:51,000
$888,000 um position as I recall right

1417
01:42:51,000 --> 01:42:54,320
no that isn't that one that's taking the

1418
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,119
that one is taking the place of two

1419
01:42:57,119 --> 01:43:01,719
right I mean that guy 7110

1420
01:43:01,719 --> 01:43:04,520
yes so we never heard from Mr Von where

1421
01:43:04,520 --> 01:43:07,080
that position where that gentleman was

1422
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:12,669
with did we have revise the

1423
01:43:12,679 --> 01:43:16,189
she we're all

1424
01:43:16,199 --> 01:43:18,719
done is there any way we can um look at

1425
01:43:18,719 --> 01:43:21,000
this updated um sheet here and Revis

1426
01:43:21,000 --> 01:43:22,920
these

1427
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:27,070
two

1428
01:43:27,080 --> 01:43:49,669
she she we

1429
01:43:49,679 --> 01:43:59,470
sent

1430
01:43:59,480 --> 01:44:19,589
anyone else need a copy need a

1431
01:44:19,599 --> 01:44:28,030
copy

1432
01:44:28,040 --> 01:44:29,040
the

1433
01:44:29,040 --> 01:44:47,630
may you C you have an

1434
01:44:47,640 --> 01:44:49,560
[Music]

1435
01:44:49,560 --> 01:45:19,470
exra

1436
01:45:19,480 --> 01:45:32,830
for

1437
01:45:32,840 --> 01:45:49,470
[Applause]

1438
01:45:49,480 --> 01:46:19,990
right

1439
01:46:20,000 --> 01:46:42,000
okay

1440
01:46:42,010 --> 01:46:47,109
[Applause]

1441
01:46:47,119 --> 01:47:06,030
yes yellow highl yellow

1442
01:47:06,040 --> 01:47:09,400
so please so just to get the discussion

1443
01:47:09,400 --> 01:47:13,560
started she with high yellow so the ones

1444
01:47:13,560 --> 01:47:15,080
when highlighted yellow that the mayor

1445
01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:17,679
has already taken out and um then in

1446
01:47:17,679 --> 01:47:20,679
addition to that there was the ips3 that

1447
01:47:20,679 --> 01:47:23,560
was removed during our last discussion

1448
01:47:23,560 --> 01:47:26,719
so after that then the only things

1449
01:47:26,719 --> 01:47:29,239
that's left are the ones that that I

1450
01:47:29,239 --> 01:47:31,159
just I didn't mention it's just like

1451
01:47:31,159 --> 01:47:49,310
just a few positions by friendly

1452
01:47:49,320 --> 01:47:56,229
so

1453
01:47:56,239 --> 01:47:59,679
and the give buttons coordinat is a is a

1454
01:47:59,679 --> 01:48:19,229
grant funded so we're not even

1455
01:48:19,239 --> 01:48:22,510
discussing

1456
01:48:22,520 --> 01:48:49,189
the position

1457
01:48:49,199 --> 01:49:08,750
Main

1458
01:49:08,760 --> 01:49:11,280
so the other positions come to over a

1459
01:49:11,280 --> 01:49:18,589
million

1460
01:49:18,599 --> 01:49:22,840
dollars about to the this one the last

1461
01:49:22,840 --> 01:49:25,679
one um sure I think we discussed it

1462
01:49:25,679 --> 01:49:29,199
already um the last two Rose the L

1463
01:49:29,199 --> 01:49:30,719
inspector risk

1464
01:49:30,719 --> 01:49:33,239
assessor um we were under the impression

1465
01:49:33,239 --> 01:49:35,920
that that person was originally going to

1466
01:49:35,920 --> 01:49:39,000
for next year going to train um C's

1467
01:49:39,000 --> 01:49:41,960
Department in um land inspection but

1468
01:49:41,960 --> 01:49:45,199
that is not the case um so or put in

1469
01:49:45,199 --> 01:49:49,360
that position back to um un position um

1470
01:49:49,360 --> 01:49:53,470
at

1471
01:49:53,480 --> 01:50:15,550
000 we

1472
01:50:15,560 --> 01:50:17,440
already I guess just to get the ball

1473
01:50:17,440 --> 01:50:19,159
rolling there was the a lot of

1474
01:50:19,159 --> 01:50:21,000
discussion around motor equipment

1475
01:50:21,000 --> 01:50:23,040
operator mechanic 1 position that if I

1476
01:50:23,040 --> 01:50:24,280
can remember correctly was the

1477
01:50:24,280 --> 01:50:26,800
individual working predominantly in the

1478
01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:30,239
night shift based on Mr Nan's position

1479
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:32,719
of any uh Productions and Staffing being

1480
01:50:32,719 --> 01:50:34,760
returned to the police overtime budget

1481
01:50:34,760 --> 01:50:37,159
would you support removing that position

1482
01:50:37,159 --> 01:50:39,480
and re Reign those can you tell me which

1483
01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:41,800
one you're talking about I'm sorry is it

1484
01:50:41,800 --> 01:50:45,920
you can mention extension is

1485
01:50:45,920 --> 01:50:48,440
8161

1486
01:50:48,440 --> 01:50:50,679
85132 motor equip

1487
01:50:50,679 --> 01:50:53,870
me one

1488
01:50:53,880 --> 01:50:58,760
mhm um what would be the cost to the in

1489
01:50:58,760 --> 01:51:00,520
other words that's the one that um would

1490
01:51:00,520 --> 01:51:04,079
save us money on garages I think

1491
01:51:04,079 --> 01:51:07,719
but is that's the

1492
01:51:07,719 --> 01:51:10,800
overnight 11 or

1493
01:51:10,800 --> 01:51:18,750
something

1494
01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,920
ties this

1495
01:51:20,920 --> 01:51:22,639
just yeah looking at these outside

1496
01:51:22,639 --> 01:51:25,679
garage expenses of

1497
01:51:25,679 --> 01:51:29,320
$62,400 so I know that the position

1498
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:30,800
wouldn't be able to fix everything on

1499
01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:33,280
this list but it would I think

1500
01:51:33,280 --> 01:51:37,950
definitely save us some money in outside

1501
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,920
repairs so are you are you suggesting

1502
01:51:40,920 --> 01:51:43,800
that we reduce the fees of service for

1503
01:51:43,800 --> 01:51:47,239
garage ref no no no the position there

1504
01:51:47,239 --> 01:51:50,320
of be in favor of keeping that position

1505
01:51:50,320 --> 01:51:51,760
right but if you're if you're talking

1506
01:51:51,760 --> 01:51:55,119
about reducing that 612,000 then we

1507
01:51:55,119 --> 01:51:56,760
would have to reduce it somewhere in the

1508
01:51:56,760 --> 01:51:59,320
budget if you're because that's what you

1509
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:01,719
said that that would replace us spending

1510
01:52:01,719 --> 01:52:04,360
some of that money right just some of

1511
01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:08,360
the uh the fleet manager

1512
01:52:08,360 --> 01:52:11,360
position yeah oh you what you're talking

1513
01:52:11,360 --> 01:52:13,599
about we're talking about mechanic oh

1514
01:52:13,599 --> 01:52:16,560
all right I'm sorry 5132 I think okay

1515
01:52:16,560 --> 01:52:18,880
the other one yeah

1516
01:52:18,880 --> 01:52:26,970
532 I thought the Sleep manager

1517
01:52:26,980 --> 01:52:41,910
[Music]

1518
01:52:41,920 --> 01:52:46,000
sorry that garage thing broken down

1519
01:52:46,000 --> 01:52:50,800
by you know what kinds of repairs it is

1520
01:52:50,800 --> 01:52:52,360
no

1521
01:52:52,360 --> 01:52:54,940
just so kind

1522
01:52:54,940 --> 01:53:11,790
[Music]

1523
01:53:11,800 --> 01:53:15,199
of so on that line there so the motor

1524
01:53:15,199 --> 01:53:19,280
vehicle repair is um in the 2023 budget

1525
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:22,229
was

1526
01:53:22,239 --> 01:53:27,550
$5,000 and so in the

1527
01:53:27,560 --> 01:53:29,719
24 it

1528
01:53:29,719 --> 01:53:32,000
is so because you're saying that we

1529
01:53:32,000 --> 01:53:33,639
would should reduce that line in order

1530
01:53:33,639 --> 01:53:35,800
to keep the mechanic position is what I

1531
01:53:35,800 --> 01:53:37,280
understood you to

1532
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:41,000
say no M Mr CH she said we should ruce

1533
01:53:41,000 --> 01:53:43,880
that's 6 no I I thought we were still

1534
01:53:43,880 --> 01:53:46,599
talking about the position of the fet

1535
01:53:46,599 --> 01:53:49,040
manager okay which was already removed

1536
01:53:49,040 --> 01:53:52,239
from the budget I'm sorry okay no which

1537
01:53:52,239 --> 01:53:54,360
from the the motor equipment guy is the

1538
01:53:54,360 --> 01:53:58,760
one that would work over oh after hours

1539
01:53:58,760 --> 01:54:01,360
right so some of these costs would be

1540
01:54:01,360 --> 01:54:03,040
reduced by that

1541
01:54:03,040 --> 01:54:05,280
individual right okay so then I was

1542
01:54:05,280 --> 01:54:06,760
talking about the the overnight

1543
01:54:06,760 --> 01:54:12,880
gentleman who was getting the right so the question is are we then ring some

1544
01:54:12,880 --> 01:54:15,719
of the Fe for services on that long

1545
01:54:15,719 --> 01:54:18,400
since we're our our expectation is that

1546
01:54:18,400 --> 01:54:20,520
we have this gentleman so we would not

1547
01:54:20,520 --> 01:54:22,639
need those outside garages so are you

1548
01:54:22,639 --> 01:54:24,199
suggesting that we remove some of the

1549
01:54:24,199 --> 01:54:25,639
fees for services on

1550
01:54:25,639 --> 01:54:28,119
5132 well I think we should would be

1551
01:54:28,119 --> 01:54:30,079
able to remove some of them yes I don't

1552
01:54:30,079 --> 01:54:33,520
know what again it's just who we paid

1553
01:54:33,520 --> 01:54:36,040
not what we paid

1554
01:54:36,040 --> 01:54:38,159
for and that will lead to the question

1555
01:54:38,159 --> 01:54:40,599
how much of savings by hiring this

1556
01:54:40,599 --> 01:54:42,079
position how much of the savings are we

1557
01:54:42,079 --> 01:54:44,280
going to get that's why I to attract

1558
01:54:44,280 --> 01:54:46,199
that line and then we can able to

1559
01:54:46,199 --> 01:54:48,199
address

1560
01:54:48,199 --> 01:54:50,920
that I have a a question with all

1561
01:54:50,920 --> 01:54:53,800
respect are you in terms of police and

1562
01:54:53,800 --> 01:54:58,480
fire are you zero in on zero reduction

1563
01:54:58,480 --> 01:55:00,280
because the goal is if we were to say

1564
01:55:00,280 --> 01:55:02,040
okay if you zing and you will vote for

1565
01:55:02,040 --> 01:55:05,320
the support budget 350 700,000 if we

1566
01:55:05,320 --> 01:55:07,440
were to look at savings for

1567
01:55:07,440 --> 01:55:10,760
$700,000 and we push those line back out

1568
01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:11,880
would you support them because we need

1569
01:55:11,880 --> 01:55:13,760
an end game here because we don't want

1570
01:55:13,760 --> 01:55:16,159
to go fishing and say well we're looking

1571
01:55:16,159 --> 01:55:20,239
at the reduction ACH be 777000 is what

1572
01:55:20,239 --> 01:55:22,000
we need to find so that's what we need

1573
01:55:22,000 --> 01:55:23,679
to look at here yes and that will be the

1574
01:55:23,679 --> 01:55:25,719
end goal if that's the case I will

1575
01:55:25,719 --> 01:55:31,920
support this budget with the 50% for the feed that adjusted by U you're

1576
01:55:31,920 --> 01:55:34,239
saying you'd put back in the police and

1577
01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:36,159
fire look at the VY if we can CL back

1578
01:55:36,159 --> 01:55:38,960
some of the vacancies and the new hire

1579
01:55:38,960 --> 01:55:41,320
put it back into

1580
01:55:41,320 --> 01:55:44,400
police yes would you support that my

1581
01:55:44,400 --> 01:55:47,599
that the police and fire are my priority

1582
01:55:47,599 --> 01:55:52,239
so yes I if we to if we can get $770,000

1583
01:55:52,239 --> 01:55:54,960
yes back I don't know how we're going to

1584
01:55:54,960 --> 01:55:56,239
do that but well that's what we need to

1585
01:55:56,239 --> 01:55:57,480
look at that's what I'm asking to

1586
01:55:57,480 --> 01:55:59,199
general question because there need to

1587
01:55:59,199 --> 01:56:00,440
be an outcome because we don't want to

1588
01:56:00,440 --> 01:56:02,320
go fishing and start reducing position

1589
01:56:02,320 --> 01:56:04,440
at the end of the game how how do other

1590
01:56:04,440 --> 01:56:08,920
people feel no I asked you because you mentioned it um your position well

1591
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:11,560
that is my priority to be that $770,000

1592
01:56:11,560 --> 01:56:13,840
but because it makes no sense us go

1593
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,880
start making reduction again on VES a

1594
01:56:16,880 --> 01:56:18,440
new field and then your position is

1595
01:56:18,440 --> 01:56:21,280
still the same

1596
01:56:21,280 --> 01:56:22,639
how do you guys

1597
01:56:22,639 --> 01:56:26,480
feel about that what's your priority Mr

1598
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:28,800
M's never answer the question is what is

1599
01:56:28,800 --> 01:56:31,320
the end goal with what he's trying to

1600
01:56:31,320 --> 01:56:33,880
accomplish with the budget the end go

1601
01:56:33,880 --> 01:56:36,360
with the budget well I I st very clear

1602
01:56:36,360 --> 01:56:39,400
we I do have I have an objection on

1603
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,199
terms of agreeing with Mr William's 50%

1604
01:56:42,199 --> 01:56:45,079
increase in water so but if we can go on

1605
01:56:45,079 --> 01:56:47,560
the other side now look at the fils and

1606
01:56:47,560 --> 01:56:48,800
we can bring back that and we can

1607
01:56:48,800 --> 01:56:50,800
address the supp

1608
01:56:50,800 --> 01:56:53,480
fire and then we pretty much maybe have

1609
01:56:53,480 --> 01:57:01,990
a

1610
01:57:02,000 --> 01:57:04,360
budget and you suggesting the only place

1611
01:57:04,360 --> 01:57:06,199
we see there is looking at

1612
01:57:06,199 --> 01:57:09,199
the yes or any other suggested any other

1613
01:57:09,199 --> 01:57:10,480
suggested

1614
01:57:10,480 --> 01:57:15,270
reduction I'm open to any other

1615
01:57:15,280 --> 01:57:17,239
reduction but those are those are the

1616
01:57:17,239 --> 01:57:20,040
one I I focus it on right

1617
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:21,920
but any me any other member has any

1618
01:57:21,920 --> 01:57:24,199
suggestion in terms of cost

1619
01:57:24,199 --> 01:57:48,390
reduction we can

1620
01:57:48,400 --> 01:57:55,229
inter

1621
01:57:55,239 --> 01:57:57,199
actually this sheet probably would be to

1622
01:57:57,199 --> 01:57:59,040
get updated I believe some of these

1623
01:57:59,040 --> 01:58:00,520
positions might have been filled since

1624
01:58:00,520 --> 01:58:02,960
we first saw this

1625
01:58:02,960 --> 01:58:05,280
sh

1626
01:58:05,280 --> 01:58:11,229
Poss yeah that's why I

1627
01:58:11,239 --> 01:58:14,400
asked we did make some reduction here

1628
01:58:14,400 --> 01:58:16,079
and we did made some

1629
01:58:16,079 --> 01:58:19,440
reduction also but they show up on the

1630
01:58:19,440 --> 01:58:21,679
that uh they just gave us today but then

1631
01:58:21,679 --> 01:58:24,669
it doesn't give us a

1632
01:58:24,679 --> 01:58:26,800
dollar so if we were to look at it we

1633
01:58:26,800 --> 01:58:29,360
going to have to do calculation Bas each

1634
01:58:29,360 --> 01:58:30,679
the

1635
01:58:30,679 --> 01:58:33,880
L right to Mr M point it sounds like

1636
01:58:33,880 --> 01:58:36,079
we're making headways so if we had that

1637
01:58:36,079 --> 01:58:39,520
updated listing of unfill and if our

1638
01:58:39,520 --> 01:58:42,520
current trajectory is finding

1639
01:58:42,520 --> 01:58:45,840
the 770,000

1640
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:52,870
um that then comes back to uh whether

1641
01:58:52,880 --> 01:58:57,280
seate sorry sorry talking L sorry and

1642
01:58:57,280 --> 01:59:00,000
considering the 50% increase to what was

1643
01:59:00,000 --> 01:59:02,960
it water sewer water and

1644
01:59:02,960 --> 01:59:05,000
sewer that sounds like that's that's

1645
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,119
information that we need to get to to a

1646
01:59:07,119 --> 01:59:09,880
budget that that's voted through did I

1647
01:59:09,880 --> 01:59:11,320
accurately capture

1648
01:59:11,320 --> 01:59:13,159
that

1649
01:59:13,159 --> 01:59:17,480
yes so we need to updated fills

1650
01:59:17,480 --> 01:59:20,239
yes so if you can get up the sheet this

1651
01:59:20,239 --> 01:59:21,719
will help all of

1652
01:59:21,719 --> 01:59:23,800
us because we're going to have to go for

1653
01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,000
each and every single one some one the

1654
01:59:26,000 --> 01:59:29,149
she

1655
01:59:29,159 --> 01:59:48,229
back we don't have

1656
01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:51,870
do

1657
01:59:51,880 --> 01:59:54,870
that's what I

1658
01:59:54,880 --> 01:59:57,280
was I believe when we talked about them

1659
01:59:57,280 --> 01:59:59,520
some of them were positions that people

1660
01:59:59,520 --> 02:00:01,679
were being

1661
02:00:01,679 --> 02:00:04,760
ined right think during the course of

1662
02:00:04,760 --> 02:00:07,500
our

1663
02:00:07,510 --> 02:00:09,360
[Music]

1664
02:00:09,360 --> 02:00:11,520
discussion

1665
02:00:11,520 --> 02:00:15,280
Mr this is so um Mr Guk said that some

1666
02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:16,719
of these positions may have been filled

1667
02:00:16,719 --> 02:00:18,800
since we started this process and HR

1668
02:00:18,800 --> 02:00:38,790
would have run the

1669
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:41,400
report I mean other than these looking

1670
02:00:41,400 --> 02:00:44,520
at the these unfill position and a new

1671
02:00:44,520 --> 02:00:47,000
proposed position or anything else that

1672
02:00:47,000 --> 02:00:49,560
in mind that we should just maybe a

1673
02:00:49,560 --> 02:00:51,920
discussion discuss it or we don't have

1674
02:00:51,920 --> 02:00:54,719
anything else in mind I don't at the end

1675
02:00:54,719 --> 02:00:58,119
goal we need about 3

1676
02:00:58,119 --> 02:01:00,440
7787 what do we need

1677
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:03,760
777 77 going with your number 777 and

1678
02:01:03,760 --> 02:01:05,760
I'm making a concession because I made

1679
02:01:05,760 --> 02:01:08,079
it very clear that I do not

1680
02:01:08,079 --> 02:01:10,800
want at the table here sometimes we have

1681
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:12,560
to make concession all of us should

1682
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:14,239
consider

1683
02:01:14,239 --> 02:01:16,719
that except for one thing this does

1684
02:01:16,719 --> 02:01:18,520
absolutely nothing to address the

1685
02:01:18,520 --> 02:01:32,350
deficit

1686
02:01:32,360 --> 02:01:33,679
so what are you suggesting let's got

1687
02:01:33,679 --> 02:01:36,400
some to address a deficit well you would

1688
02:01:36,400 --> 02:01:39,400
have you would have to put the fees in

1689
02:01:39,400 --> 02:01:41,440
and I would suggest with some of the

1690
02:01:41,440 --> 02:01:43,880
cutting of the positions I have no issue

1691
02:01:43,880 --> 02:01:45,560
with some of those yeah let's look

1692
02:01:45,560 --> 02:01:47,880
overall let's look at it I mean we could

1693
02:01:47,880 --> 02:01:49,800
just look at them we could clerical Aid

1694
02:01:49,800 --> 02:01:52,360
I have no issue taking out program

1695
02:01:52,360 --> 02:01:54,440
director both of those weren't in the

1696
02:01:54,440 --> 02:01:57,560
budget to begin with the deputy register

1697
02:01:57,560 --> 02:01:59,320
and the city clerk I have no issue

1698
02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:01,239
taking out matter of fact I would city

1699
02:02:01,239 --> 02:02:04,239
clerk that's what it says here the

1700
02:02:04,239 --> 02:02:07,000
deputy register Deputy register in the

1701
02:02:07,000 --> 02:02:09,239
city clerk's office oh okay I thought

1702
02:02:09,239 --> 02:02:12,719
you said just Play City cler and but

1703
02:02:12,719 --> 02:02:15,599
that's the first two already removed and

1704
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:16,920
the third one somebody's being moved

1705
02:02:16,920 --> 02:02:22,189
into that no they were put back in

1706
02:02:22,199 --> 02:02:23,480
I thought they were I thought they were

1707
02:02:23,480 --> 02:02:25,360
in the budget no they weren't in the

1708
02:02:25,360 --> 02:02:29,079
budget they were put back in yeah yeah no no no uh I don't think we ever

1709
02:02:29,079 --> 02:02:31,800
agreed to put those second that was my

1710
02:02:31,800 --> 02:02:33,760
understanding no we never

1711
02:02:33,760 --> 02:02:40,119
the we hard from um Mr Gardner on HR

1712
02:02:40,119 --> 02:02:43,790
there were no movements on

1713
02:02:43,800 --> 02:02:46,679
that I do have a question so those the

1714
02:02:46,679 --> 02:02:47,960
only two

1715
02:02:47,960 --> 02:02:50,679
that go ahead please so but my

1716
02:02:50,679 --> 02:02:51,920
understanding though and um this

1717
02:02:51,920 --> 02:02:53,159
question is for the mayor is that did

1718
02:02:53,159 --> 02:02:55,119
someone actually interview for one of

1719
02:02:55,119 --> 02:02:56,560
these

1720
02:02:56,560 --> 02:02:59,639
positions I'm sorry you said for the

1721
02:02:59,639 --> 02:03:02,119
okay so we're talking about um either

1722
02:03:02,119 --> 02:03:03,760
the clerical Aid or the program

1723
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:05,440
coordinator in the affirmative action

1724
02:03:05,440 --> 02:03:07,679
office um my understanding that somebody

1725
02:03:07,679 --> 02:03:09,119
actually interviewed for those one of

1726
02:03:09,119 --> 02:03:09,960
those

1727
02:03:09,960 --> 02:03:12,199
positions and so I guess we need to

1728
02:03:12,199 --> 02:03:14,159
really have a discussion is whether we

1729
02:03:14,159 --> 02:03:15,599
need to leave one of those positions in

1730
02:03:15,599 --> 02:03:17,040
the budget as we're having this

1731
02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,599
discussion right it's not there hiring

1732
02:03:19,599 --> 02:03:21,159
but I haven't made any decision on

1733
02:03:21,159 --> 02:03:25,270
hiring we have

1734
02:03:25,280 --> 02:03:27,360
interview so you say it's not there

1735
02:03:27,360 --> 02:03:29,599
you're not hiring well if the position

1736
02:03:29,599 --> 02:03:31,079
if you abolish the position I'm not

1737
02:03:31,079 --> 02:03:33,760
going to hire somebody so which position

1738
02:03:33,760 --> 02:03:36,159
did you hire did you excuse me interview

1739
02:03:36,159 --> 02:03:39,239
for we actually had candidates for both

1740
02:03:39,239 --> 02:03:42,920
those positions been locked out okay but

1741
02:03:42,920 --> 02:03:44,199
you're you're you're not funding them

1742
02:03:44,199 --> 02:03:47,760
into 2024 your proposed budget right

1743
02:03:47,760 --> 02:03:51,320
those are out so so if if if you are

1744
02:03:51,320 --> 02:03:53,719
interviewing for them in 2023 you're not

1745
02:03:53,719 --> 02:03:56,280
we had interviewed but they're not in

1746
02:03:56,280 --> 02:03:59,430
the budget

1747
02:03:59,440 --> 02:04:02,960
okay interview one person they accepted

1748
02:04:02,960 --> 02:04:04,639
job they never show up yeah my

1749
02:04:04,639 --> 02:04:06,480
understand there was a recent interview

1750
02:04:06,480 --> 02:04:08,719
recent I did not hear about a recent

1751
02:04:08,719 --> 02:04:11,480
interview yes okay there was a recent

1752
02:04:11,480 --> 02:04:14,280
interview since we started the budget

1753
02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:18,320
process so so they're already out anyway

1754
02:04:18,320 --> 02:04:22,559
oh should people saying if the proposal

1755
02:04:22,559 --> 02:04:25,320
is to not fund it in the in the proposed

1756
02:04:25,320 --> 02:04:27,599
budget and why are we interviewing

1757
02:04:27,599 --> 02:04:29,880
because sometimes we interview for other

1758
02:04:29,880 --> 02:04:31,719
departments that are open too who's the

1759
02:04:31,719 --> 02:04:33,960
person it was specifically for that have

1760
02:04:33,960 --> 02:04:37,199
no idea I'm just saying for other other

1761
02:04:37,199 --> 02:04:39,360
jobs what we do is we interview and then

1762
02:04:39,360 --> 02:04:42,119
we try to place them in a department has

1763
02:04:42,119 --> 02:04:47,750
an

1764
02:04:47,760 --> 02:04:52,229
open

1765
02:04:52,239 --> 02:04:53,599
so those two

1766
02:04:53,599 --> 02:04:56,960
are yeah the first two the first two in

1767
02:04:56,960 --> 02:04:59,239
the budget and may didn't propos to fund

1768
02:04:59,239 --> 02:05:13,450
it4 we so just we keep it the same

1769
02:05:13,460 --> 02:05:17,669
[Music]

1770
02:05:17,679 --> 02:05:21,119
way and the de it's it says that

1771
02:05:21,119 --> 02:05:22,559
someone's going to be moving into that

1772
02:05:22,559 --> 02:05:24,440
position so I don't say we abolish it

1773
02:05:24,440 --> 02:05:27,990
that person currently works for the

1774
02:05:28,000 --> 02:05:31,920
city M Michael can you update us on

1775
02:05:31,920 --> 02:05:34,480
that what is the position in terms of he

1776
02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,400
says will be moved to this position

1777
02:05:37,400 --> 02:05:41,159
final line please so the ips3 position

1778
02:05:41,159 --> 02:05:43,760
um should be taking a promotion into the

1779
02:05:43,760 --> 02:05:47,669
deputy register our

1780
02:05:47,679 --> 02:05:50,119
position

1781
02:05:50,119 --> 02:05:54,280
so is the ips3 position then thus open

1782
02:05:54,280 --> 02:05:59,750
that will be that's in your office

1783
02:05:59,760 --> 02:06:02,480
yeah how many IPS you have overall in

1784
02:06:02,480 --> 02:06:03,320
this

1785
02:06:03,320 --> 02:06:09,109
apartment one ips3 two clerical

1786
02:06:09,119 --> 02:06:12,840
a and you also have a deputy Deputy city

1787
02:06:12,840 --> 02:06:17,589
clerk

1788
02:06:17,599 --> 02:06:23,149
yes

1789
02:06:23,159 --> 02:06:26,719
since this person has been mov toi there

1790
02:06:26,719 --> 02:06:29,639
if we were to say if I'm just using

1791
02:06:29,639 --> 02:06:33,239
this not from the IPS what impact would

1792
02:06:33,239 --> 02:06:37,430
that have in your

1793
02:06:37,440 --> 02:06:40,040
office just processing

1794
02:06:40,040 --> 02:06:45,199
times processing times fing

1795
02:06:45,199 --> 02:06:47,599
just

1796
02:06:47,599 --> 02:06:50,520
everything where we've

1797
02:06:50,520 --> 02:06:53,960
gotten more work than we've ever had

1798
02:06:53,960 --> 02:06:58,559
before we've had um now zoning uh

1799
02:06:58,559 --> 02:07:00,960
applications put in we now have the

1800
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:04,280
ethics uh meetings there to

1801
02:07:04,280 --> 02:07:07,559
determinations all their decisions

1802
02:07:07,559 --> 02:07:13,310
uh there's just added you

1803
02:07:13,320 --> 02:07:17,520
know added workload to our

1804
02:07:17,520 --> 02:07:19,119
office

1805
02:07:19,119 --> 02:07:20,840
and this is serving the public so let's

1806
02:07:20,840 --> 02:07:22,280
just be clear about that and

1807
02:07:22,280 --> 02:07:24,440
additionally we're going to be

1808
02:07:24,440 --> 02:07:29,239
um updating our dog licensing program so

1809
02:07:29,239 --> 02:07:32,320
that it's online it currently we're

1810
02:07:32,320 --> 02:07:34,239
entering everything twice one into the

1811
02:07:34,239 --> 02:07:36,880
old system and into now into the new

1812
02:07:36,880 --> 02:07:38,159
system for

1813
02:07:38,159 --> 02:07:47,510
testing so it's just slowing everything

1814
02:07:47,520 --> 02:07:58,350
down

1815
02:07:58,360 --> 02:08:01,599
and a clerical Aid parttime position

1816
02:08:01,599 --> 02:08:03,599
code

1817
02:08:03,599 --> 02:08:07,709
enforcement on and off with

1818
02:08:07,719 --> 02:08:12,199
that this morning did so there were two

1819
02:08:12,199 --> 02:08:17,079
we said we were the um suggestion no no no the line before just the one so

1820
02:08:17,079 --> 02:08:18,960
you've hired someone today perfect

1821
02:08:18,960 --> 02:08:21,880
so that's not B we did remove one of the

1822
02:08:21,880 --> 02:08:25,040
Court enforcement officer from our prior

1823
02:08:25,040 --> 02:08:27,320
discussion so there still

1824
02:08:27,320 --> 02:08:30,119
two vacant though

1825
02:08:30,119 --> 02:08:33,840
right just one just one because we one

1826
02:08:33,840 --> 02:08:47,390
position the supervisor is still um

1827
02:08:47,400 --> 02:08:50,280
vacant

1828
02:08:50,280 --> 02:08:52,239
the Community Development

1829
02:08:52,239 --> 02:08:55,880
supervisor looks like it's still

1830
02:08:55,880 --> 02:08:59,440
vacant Community Development supervisor

1831
02:08:59,440 --> 02:09:17,310
that's still again that's 100%

1832
02:09:17,320 --> 02:09:23,350
funded

1833
02:09:23,360 --> 02:09:24,920
the next one is a

1834
02:09:24,920 --> 02:09:29,040
planner this position is on and off fil

1835
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:33,229
and

1836
02:09:33,239 --> 02:09:36,159
vacant this this the city planner's

1837
02:09:36,159 --> 02:09:40,069
office

1838
02:09:40,079 --> 02:09:42,880
so I I don't I don't necessarily think

1839
02:09:42,880 --> 02:09:44,679
that we should remove that one planning

1840
02:09:44,679 --> 02:09:48,159
is a huge part of what we do so think we

1841
02:09:48,159 --> 02:09:49,119
should

1842
02:09:49,119 --> 02:09:51,840
really consider leaving that there if at

1843
02:09:51,840 --> 02:09:58,990
all

1844
02:09:59,000 --> 02:10:01,559
possible any other question on

1845
02:10:01,559 --> 02:10:04,000
that the next one is assistant to the

1846
02:10:04,000 --> 02:10:06,159
city engineer I think we did remove that

1847
02:10:06,159 --> 02:10:09,800
I think so too yes that's already out

1848
02:10:09,800 --> 02:10:12,440
right just want to remind you keep Mr

1849
02:10:12,440 --> 02:10:14,440
keep keep saying that we don't know any

1850
02:10:14,440 --> 02:10:16,440
fills that have been through HR yeah

1851
02:10:16,440 --> 02:10:19,639
we're just going through okay

1852
02:10:19,639 --> 02:10:21,880
discussion we making

1853
02:10:21,880 --> 02:10:25,320
not I'm Finance team is making notes

1854
02:10:25,320 --> 02:10:28,440
also civil engineer I think we moov that

1855
02:10:28,440 --> 02:10:30,480
back if we were proposing to move that

1856
02:10:30,480 --> 02:10:37,629
into Pizza service but be keeping

1857
02:10:37,639 --> 02:10:45,149
that IPS 3 engineering

1858
02:10:45,159 --> 02:10:47,040
department I think they interviewed

1859
02:10:47,040 --> 02:10:49,159
somebody today

1860
02:10:49,159 --> 02:10:49,960
Chris

1861
02:10:49,960 --> 02:10:53,390
W all

1862
02:10:53,400 --> 02:10:59,870
right they really need somebody over

1863
02:10:59,880 --> 02:11:02,840
there the junior civil engineer I think

1864
02:11:02,840 --> 02:11:05,370
we put that

1865
02:11:05,370 --> 02:11:07,400
[Music]

1866
02:11:07,400 --> 02:11:13,490
back it's removed it's removed it's

1867
02:11:13,500 --> 02:11:15,679
[Music]

1868
02:11:15,679 --> 02:11:17,880
removed oh yeah that was already moved

1869
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:19,480
before got the budget that wasn't there

1870
02:11:19,480 --> 02:11:20,840
so that really should not even be on the

1871
02:11:20,840 --> 02:11:22,639
sheet it not even

1872
02:11:22,639 --> 02:11:35,950
there when we got the

1873
02:11:35,960 --> 02:11:38,000
budget and the next one is a senior

1874
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:39,079
engineering

1875
02:11:39,079 --> 02:11:46,910
technician is

1876
02:11:46,920 --> 02:11:50,760
that as well

1877
02:11:50,770 --> 02:12:06,669
[Music]

1878
02:12:06,679 --> 02:12:09,280
okay so we can verify that I mean after

1879
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:13,109
we through this we making not

1880
02:12:13,119 --> 02:12:19,040
on upd the sheet in terms of Who U Got A

1881
02:12:19,040 --> 02:12:22,119
we last discussed this HR assistant I

1882
02:12:22,119 --> 02:12:24,960
think that was removed from the24

1883
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:28,239
budget the payroll audit we're waiting

1884
02:12:28,239 --> 02:12:32,390
for test

1885
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:37,679
results CS that's the civil service test

1886
02:12:37,679 --> 02:12:44,750
result we talk about taking

1887
02:12:44,760 --> 02:12:47,000
test assistant to the Corporation

1888
02:12:47,000 --> 02:12:51,239
Council we did remove move one position

1889
02:12:51,239 --> 02:12:55,079
correct the IP Innovation and

1890
02:12:55,079 --> 02:12:57,639
performance specialist that

1891
02:12:57,639 --> 02:12:59,679
is

1892
02:12:59,679 --> 02:13:06,310
vacant on and

1893
02:13:06,320 --> 02:13:11,109
[Music]

1894
02:13:11,119 --> 02:13:14,079
off go ahead please so so just um I know

1895
02:13:14,079 --> 02:13:17,320
that the mayor that there I saw a job

1896
02:13:17,320 --> 02:13:18,880
announcement for so are you are you

1897
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:21,520
trying to fill that position currently

1898
02:13:21,520 --> 02:13:23,719
we

1899
02:13:23,719 --> 02:13:27,599
are so can I ask not having that how

1900
02:13:27,599 --> 02:13:33,910
does it impact your

1901
02:13:33,920 --> 02:13:37,079
office go back had trouble filling it

1902
02:13:37,079 --> 02:13:39,320
had people in it when you look at the

1903
02:13:39,320 --> 02:13:41,040
reports that were done

1904
02:13:41,040 --> 02:13:44,400
before you know it's a specific

1905
02:13:44,400 --> 02:13:46,920
expertise in some of the software was

1906
02:13:46,920 --> 02:13:48,840
improving the overall efficiency in the

1907
02:13:48,840 --> 02:13:51,480
city it's how do you get departments to

1908
02:13:51,480 --> 02:13:54,280
work together and how do you

1909
02:13:54,280 --> 02:13:57,719
get those data point so we can see what

1910
02:13:57,719 --> 02:14:01,040
the trends are and I would ask you to

1911
02:14:01,040 --> 02:14:04,390
leave that

1912
02:14:04,400 --> 02:14:08,470
in okay thank

1913
02:14:08,480 --> 02:14:12,030
you director of

1914
02:14:12,040 --> 02:14:16,189
Sol we

1915
02:14:16,199 --> 02:14:26,390
that no there's no

1916
02:14:26,400 --> 02:14:29,920
you said I was removed for sure we'll

1917
02:14:29,920 --> 02:14:34,470
make not and verify

1918
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:37,920
that's that was oh yeah it was removed

1919
02:14:37,920 --> 02:14:40,960
that was the one comb the jobs they got

1920
02:14:40,960 --> 02:14:42,639
rid of

1921
02:14:42,639 --> 02:14:45,199
that

1922
02:14:45,199 --> 02:14:48,480
combine oh got you and what was it and

1923
02:14:48,480 --> 02:14:52,840
so Street manager Street manager

1924
02:14:52,840 --> 02:14:56,119
oh that one kind already

1925
02:14:56,119 --> 02:15:00,119
okay the mom streets we did remove one

1926
02:15:00,119 --> 02:15:03,119
of them corre and they

1927
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:11,189
are three

1928
02:15:11,199 --> 02:15:16,790
vacancies on

1929
02:15:16,800 --> 02:15:20,709
that

1930
02:15:20,719 --> 02:15:26,149
is fed by ARA and one

1931
02:15:26,159 --> 02:15:30,199
from so um my point on that is that the

1932
02:15:30,199 --> 02:15:32,679
ones that are funded by arpa eventually

1933
02:15:32,679 --> 02:15:35,159
we're not going to have arpa fund so um

1934
02:15:35,159 --> 02:15:36,719
I know we talked about one I don't know

1935
02:15:36,719 --> 02:15:38,719
if anybody heard from anyone regarding

1936
02:15:38,719 --> 02:15:42,679
that so um I know streets is like

1937
02:15:42,679 --> 02:15:46,079
probably place where we we need every

1938
02:15:46,079 --> 02:15:48,320
position so the streets is like snow

1939
02:15:48,320 --> 02:15:51,800
with our trash removal so

1940
02:15:51,800 --> 02:15:54,520
um I'm suggest me think that through if

1941
02:15:54,520 --> 02:15:58,470
we can get to the number we need to get

1942
02:15:58,480 --> 02:16:00,639
to are

1943
02:16:00,639 --> 02:16:03,599
you put back to one position I'm

1944
02:16:03,599 --> 02:16:06,199
suggesting we that we keep um

1945
02:16:06,199 --> 02:16:09,040
three because we already removed one I

1946
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:12,079
understand that um so and I would like

1947
02:16:12,079 --> 02:16:13,880
to know the in Total Staffing in that

1948
02:16:13,880 --> 02:16:16,239
department

1949
02:16:16,239 --> 02:16:18,599
too I know that he can't say that right

1950
02:16:18,599 --> 02:16:22,159
now but no can you ask the question yes

1951
02:16:22,159 --> 02:16:39,190
get that you

1952
02:16:39,200 --> 02:16:41,359
tomorrow moving on the next one is a

1953
02:16:41,359 --> 02:16:46,349
seasonal um labor

1954
02:16:46,359 --> 02:16:48,599
loader best deal we

1955
02:16:48,599 --> 02:16:52,399
have yeah look like the best

1956
02:16:52,399 --> 02:16:55,000
we because we because we don't get

1957
02:16:55,000 --> 02:16:57,960
because what know because know they able

1958
02:16:57,960 --> 02:17:00,439
to come in they get to work you they

1959
02:17:00,439 --> 02:17:03,920
have abilities to get their permit for

1960
02:17:03,920 --> 02:17:07,479
CDL if they want we teach them and you

1961
02:17:07,479 --> 02:17:09,719
know if if they're really good we keep

1962
02:17:09,719 --> 02:17:16,589
mind if they're not good we lay them

1963
02:17:16,599 --> 02:17:18,160
off

1964
02:17:18,160 --> 02:17:21,960
any okay Property Management

1965
02:17:21,960 --> 02:17:40,750
car he's already out he's out that's out

1966
02:17:40,760 --> 02:17:46,589
already okay let's move on the Water Fun

1967
02:17:46,599 --> 02:17:48,639
APS

1968
02:17:48,639 --> 02:17:51,760
that is filled and Vac just want remind

1969
02:17:51,760 --> 02:17:53,800
you water s fun you can't use that money

1970
02:17:53,800 --> 02:18:02,230
for police

1971
02:18:02,240 --> 02:18:04,490
I

1972
02:18:04,490 --> 02:18:05,760
[Music]

1973
02:18:05,760 --> 02:18:07,760
so

1974
02:18:07,760 --> 02:18:16,509
only help

1975
02:18:16,519 --> 02:18:19,639
water we have the water maintenance

1976
02:18:19,639 --> 02:18:23,200
worker I think

1977
02:18:23,200 --> 02:18:28,950
um if we not

1978
02:18:28,960 --> 02:18:31,519
cut it's not

1979
02:18:31,519 --> 02:18:36,960
on that's general f oh that's

1980
02:18:36,960 --> 02:18:39,760
right we did

1981
02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:45,469
too

1982
02:18:45,479 --> 02:18:47,399
someone I don't have that I don't have

1983
02:18:47,399 --> 02:18:48,040
that

1984
02:18:48,040 --> 02:18:52,990
you put it back

1985
02:18:53,000 --> 02:18:57,679
in put it back in V to put back in water

1986
02:18:57,679 --> 02:18:58,679
think that

1987
02:18:58,679 --> 02:19:03,990
was water taken

1988
02:19:04,000 --> 02:19:10,349
anybody that was a

1989
02:19:10,359 --> 02:19:13,679
compromise to put to keep four or to put

1990
02:19:13,679 --> 02:19:16,679
back keep four was a compromise yes I

1991
02:19:16,679 --> 02:19:22,990
remember oh we

1992
02:19:23,000 --> 02:19:26,240
okay well for all looking everything

1993
02:19:26,240 --> 02:19:34,790
here at this point in

1994
02:19:34,800 --> 02:19:37,639
time the next one is a senior operator

1995
02:19:37,639 --> 02:19:46,429
water ping that's one

1996
02:19:46,439 --> 02:19:49,750
position

1997
02:19:49,760 --> 02:19:52,760
and the next one is a water treatment

1998
02:19:52,760 --> 02:20:01,950
plan in inal

1999
02:20:01,960 --> 02:20:04,720
in that is a half a position yeah the

2000
02:20:04,720 --> 02:20:16,349
other half is the other half

2001
02:20:16,359 --> 02:20:19,560
is going so the first position the not

2002
02:20:19,560 --> 02:20:23,389
here is this position

2003
02:20:23,399 --> 02:20:27,680
itself and then the waste water mechanic

2004
02:20:27,680 --> 02:20:35,990
there two position

2005
02:20:36,000 --> 02:20:39,120
here W water treatment plant operator

2006
02:20:39,120 --> 02:20:43,150
that is

2007
02:20:43,160 --> 02:20:45,720
f the other one the training is removed

2008
02:20:45,720 --> 02:20:48,240
we took that out you took it out no that

2009
02:20:48,240 --> 02:20:50,360
was REM from

2010
02:20:50,360 --> 02:20:53,160
[Music]

2011
02:20:53,160 --> 02:20:57,720
the we did still one they have from

2012
02:20:57,720 --> 02:20:59,880
above and then we have the SE

2013
02:20:59,880 --> 02:21:03,040
maintenance work they have two

2014
02:21:03,040 --> 02:21:06,040
vacancies

2015
02:21:06,040 --> 02:21:08,000
says looks like

2016
02:21:08,000 --> 02:21:10,200
they're

2017
02:21:10,200 --> 02:21:13,439
filled I don't know it says vacant then

2018
02:21:13,439 --> 02:21:15,120
filled again so it says filled right now

2019
02:21:15,120 --> 02:21:16,240
in

2020
02:21:16,240 --> 02:21:20,550
2023

2021
02:21:20,560 --> 02:21:23,890
they're filled in

2022
02:21:23,900 --> 02:21:32,790
[Music]

2023
02:21:32,800 --> 02:21:36,280
2023 we can then move on to the sheet

2024
02:21:36,280 --> 02:21:39,439
this one and just go through

2025
02:21:39,439 --> 02:21:43,439
and what initially remove and discussion

2026
02:21:43,439 --> 02:21:45,080
on

2027
02:21:45,080 --> 02:21:52,349
the that's the 24 uh new

2028
02:21:52,359 --> 02:21:55,080
positions initially we had removed the

2029
02:21:55,080 --> 02:21:59,920
ips3 for it and the M equipment mechanic

2030
02:21:59,920 --> 02:22:01,120
is that correct

2031
02:22:01,120 --> 02:22:02,280
[Music]

2032
02:22:02,280 --> 02:22:07,439
MH all the others the CD admin assistant

2033
02:22:07,439 --> 02:22:10,120
and the lead inspector those are all

2034
02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:11,479
funded through

2035
02:22:11,479 --> 02:22:16,160
grants so keep those

2036
02:22:16,160 --> 02:22:26,469
out

2037
02:22:26,479 --> 02:22:28,319
so I don't think there's I'm not really

2038
02:22:28,319 --> 02:22:31,520
sure what's left not much it doesn't

2039
02:22:31,520 --> 02:22:34,550
look like

2040
02:22:34,560 --> 02:22:37,640
there don't you have the the ips3 for

2041
02:22:37,640 --> 02:22:40,479
Utilities in the IT

2042
02:22:40,479 --> 02:22:42,920
specialist

2043
02:22:42,920 --> 02:22:46,479
the can the other one give a f that's a

2044
02:22:46,479 --> 02:22:49,830
grant also

2045
02:22:49,840 --> 02:22:51,399
yes

2046
02:22:51,399 --> 02:22:55,040
please me ask let make a littleit not I

2047
02:22:55,040 --> 02:22:57,160
just I just want to comment though on

2048
02:22:57,160 --> 02:22:59,760
the um the ips3 and the IT department

2049
02:22:59,760 --> 02:23:02,160
we've already had discussions that are

2050
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:03,240
um

2051
02:23:03,240 --> 02:23:05,760
that uh the head of the department who

2052
02:23:05,760 --> 02:23:07,840
does a lot of it well that does the

2053
02:23:07,840 --> 02:23:10,960
signal is going to be leaving and so a

2054
02:23:10,960 --> 02:23:12,800
lot of the work that he's currently

2055
02:23:12,800 --> 02:23:14,680
doing still going to need people in

2056
02:23:14,680 --> 02:23:15,960
place and some of those Duties are going

2057
02:23:15,960 --> 02:23:19,520
to be dispersed so um I think I would

2058
02:23:19,520 --> 02:23:21,240
caution against moving too much out of

2059
02:23:21,240 --> 02:23:24,309
the it

2060
02:23:24,319 --> 02:23:29,469
area we did you mean the

2061
02:23:29,479 --> 02:23:31,720
utilities you mean the utilities one I

2062
02:23:31,720 --> 02:23:33,120
think right I don't yeah I don't think

2063
02:23:33,120 --> 02:23:35,000
we should do

2064
02:23:35,000 --> 02:23:38,240
that but he also said it specialist and

2065
02:23:38,240 --> 02:23:40,680
again some of those duties is As I

2066
02:23:40,680 --> 02:23:43,040
understood um signal superintendent to

2067
02:23:43,040 --> 02:23:44,279
say that some of the duties that he's

2068
02:23:44,279 --> 02:23:46,399
currently doing will be dispersed among

2069
02:23:46,399 --> 02:24:01,269
some of these position

2070
02:24:01,279 --> 02:24:04,200
so the next one

2071
02:24:04,200 --> 02:24:06,240
um this

2072
02:24:06,240 --> 02:24:15,990
m we have two

2073
02:24:16,000 --> 02:24:27,440
there

2074
02:24:27,450 --> 02:24:30,870
[Music]

2075
02:24:30,880 --> 02:24:45,950
for the par

2076
02:24:45,960 --> 02:24:57,670
yes

2077
02:24:57,680 --> 02:24:59,880
ex so we don't know at this point in

2078
02:24:59,880 --> 02:25:00,840
time

2079
02:25:00,840 --> 02:25:04,319
what what position has been

2080
02:25:04,319 --> 02:25:15,870
F from our so

2081
02:25:15,880 --> 02:25:27,150
now

2082
02:25:27,160 --> 02:25:28,800
are there any other

2083
02:25:28,800 --> 02:25:31,960
suggested changes done these so we

2084
02:25:31,960 --> 02:25:45,870
discuss

2085
02:25:45,880 --> 02:25:50,750
here

2086
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:52,080
I don't have any other suggestions I

2087
02:25:52,080 --> 02:25:55,439
mean so we have to know a report from HR

2088
02:25:55,439 --> 02:25:56,960
like what has been filled in the metime

2089
02:25:56,960 --> 02:25:59,160
and also what we just discussed what

2090
02:25:59,160 --> 02:26:06,910
that dollar amount eques

2091
02:26:06,920 --> 02:26:09,120
to I know Miss Patrick said that she

2092
02:26:09,120 --> 02:26:11,520
would support the budget we made those

2093
02:26:11,520 --> 02:26:14,040
um concessions in favor of getting up

2094
02:26:14,040 --> 02:26:16,120
the full ask for both the police and

2095
02:26:16,120 --> 02:26:19,080
fire um s Toro are you how would you

2096
02:26:19,080 --> 02:26:21,240
weigh in on

2097
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:23,359
that

2098
02:26:23,359 --> 02:26:25,920
um i' like to see the numbers first I

2099
02:26:25,920 --> 02:26:27,920
want to know I I'm just going over those

2100
02:26:27,920 --> 02:26:29,560
lines I I can't see much that we're

2101
02:26:29,560 --> 02:26:32,080
going to cut

2102
02:26:32,080 --> 02:26:38,160
777000 in fills so I really want to

2103
02:26:38,160 --> 02:26:41,240
see get that that will give us a salary

2104
02:26:41,240 --> 02:26:43,560
and plus the benefits benefits so there

2105
02:26:43,560 --> 02:27:01,630
will be a higher number side by side

2106
02:27:01,640 --> 02:27:05,560
so Mr far can we have sheet regard

2107
02:27:05,560 --> 02:27:08,359
to completely remove completely remove

2108
02:27:08,359 --> 02:27:10,240
what we had initially

2109
02:27:10,240 --> 02:27:14,000
removed and look at remaining and as you

2110
02:27:14,000 --> 02:27:15,479
can see there's hardly

2111
02:27:15,479 --> 02:27:19,030
any remaining

2112
02:27:19,040 --> 02:27:22,230
I'm it's

2113
02:27:22,240 --> 02:27:25,520
coming uh I have no problem I get it to

2114
02:27:25,520 --> 02:27:27,520
you as soon as I can

2115
02:27:27,520 --> 02:27:29,720
tomorrow

2116
02:27:29,720 --> 02:27:32,279
um is it possible for you to email this

2117
02:27:32,279 --> 02:27:35,160
so rather than us sh on f i I would

2118
02:27:35,160 --> 02:27:37,000
rather do that tell you the truth email

2119
02:27:37,000 --> 02:27:39,439
it to us sure so that we have all of us

2120
02:27:39,439 --> 02:27:43,760
have a time to R it prior to us at

2121
02:27:43,760 --> 02:27:45,880
5:30 okay we do a first thing in the

2122
02:27:45,880 --> 02:27:48,040
morning we'll get it out try to get out

2123
02:27:48,040 --> 02:27:49,880
soon as

2124
02:27:49,880 --> 02:27:52,479
possible there's no no way to think

2125
02:27:52,479 --> 02:27:54,000
about instead of

2126
02:27:54,000 --> 02:27:57,359
a150 increase in the waste to 75 cents

2127
02:27:57,359 --> 02:28:00,640
cut that in half from 1.7 to 800

2128
02:28:00,640 --> 02:28:02,439
something thousand you get the you get

2129
02:28:02,439 --> 02:28:07,319
the uh uh the overtime for uh Mrs

2130
02:28:07,319 --> 02:28:09,040
Patrick and then you have a you can

2131
02:28:09,040 --> 02:28:11,720
reduce uh you can reduce uh uh fund

2132
02:28:11,720 --> 02:28:15,479
balance by the other 100,000 for Mr

2133
02:28:15,479 --> 02:28:17,520
uh me

2134
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:19,000
so we're

2135
02:28:19,000 --> 02:28:22,160
reducing uh you know the two big things

2136
02:28:22,160 --> 02:28:25,110
that we're looking

2137
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:27,880
at oh so you want us to go revisit the

2138
02:28:27,880 --> 02:28:30,680
waight is that what you're saying thr it

2139
02:28:30,680 --> 02:28:33,520
out there fing against Mr mood variance

2140
02:28:33,520 --> 02:28:35,080
point that again

2141
02:28:35,080 --> 02:28:38,359
is one individual making concessions and

2142
02:28:38,359 --> 02:28:43,910
another individual saying I want to full

2143
02:28:43,920 --> 02:28:49,389
ask not going to mention it again

2144
02:28:49,399 --> 02:28:51,200
water and sword that that is that is

2145
02:28:51,200 --> 02:28:53,200
that was water and sword this is general

2146
02:28:53,200 --> 02:28:54,720
I'm just trying to just trying to help

2147
02:28:54,720 --> 02:28:57,279
you guys along that's all I appreciate

2148
02:28:57,279 --> 02:28:59,840
that I'm looking at these uh numbers for

2149
02:28:59,840 --> 02:29:02,160
these jobs just they're not adding up

2150
02:29:02,160 --> 02:29:03,160
there nothing going to be enough is that

2151
02:29:03,160 --> 02:29:06,640
what you said doesn't seem to me I mean

2152
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:07,760
dere what you

2153
02:29:07,760 --> 02:29:15,510
think see tomorrow

2154
02:29:15,520 --> 02:29:17,279
morning

2155
02:29:17,279 --> 02:29:20,399
unless uh any other member has any any

2156
02:29:20,399 --> 02:29:23,399
other suggested changes other than the

2157
02:29:23,399 --> 02:29:25,240
vacancies and new

2158
02:29:25,240 --> 02:29:29,760
propos we can so we have it on the table

2159
02:29:29,760 --> 02:29:33,790
look at it first tomorrow

2160
02:29:33,800 --> 02:29:36,319
morning well there's my suggested Cuts

2161
02:29:36,319 --> 02:29:39,600
as well as I think we should cut the uh

2162
02:29:39,600 --> 02:29:42,960
expenditures for the um outside

2163
02:29:42,960 --> 02:29:49,279
attorneys and I also think can we can we

2164
02:29:49,279 --> 02:29:54,319
just yourest Chang property 4K will you

2165
02:29:54,319 --> 02:29:58,640
just estim outside attorney pretty close

2166
02:29:58,640 --> 02:30:01,520
yeah outside attorneys the

2167
02:30:01,520 --> 02:30:02,800
[Music]

2168
02:30:02,800 --> 02:30:06,520
um extra money for the

2169
02:30:06,520 --> 02:30:09,720
cprb I would

2170
02:30:09,720 --> 02:30:12,760
reduce extra money that's the uh so send

2171
02:30:12,760 --> 02:30:15,279
two people instead of one person I'm

2172
02:30:15,279 --> 02:30:19,830
fine with one person

2173
02:30:19,840 --> 02:30:23,800
how was that was like 5,000 $3,000 a

2174
02:30:23,800 --> 02:30:25,439
person

2175
02:30:25,439 --> 02:30:28,359
about just want to

2176
02:30:28,359 --> 02:30:33,190
make got rid of the outside

2177
02:30:33,200 --> 02:30:36,520
Council I think right we already got rid

2178
02:30:36,520 --> 02:30:38,920
of the no for cprb I think we got rid of

2179
02:30:38,920 --> 02:30:41,279
the whole thing yeah we did that was

2180
02:30:41,279 --> 02:30:44,479
my yeah that was uh on the CPR that that

2181
02:30:44,479 --> 02:30:48,120
was removed theide Council m MH that's

2182
02:30:48,120 --> 02:30:50,359
correct the only one is available is

2183
02:30:50,359 --> 02:30:53,399
under the city council

2184
02:30:53,399 --> 02:30:56,960
correct and the department which I don't

2185
02:30:56,960 --> 02:30:59,120
suggest we touch it

2186
02:30:59,120 --> 02:31:01,880
on

2187
02:31:01,880 --> 02:31:03,960
depart which you talking talking about

2188
02:31:03,960 --> 02:31:06,640
the 25k that we put it last year and we

2189
02:31:06,640 --> 02:31:09,279
15,000 correct to this year under the

2190
02:31:09,279 --> 02:31:12,120
city council we remove the cprb

2191
02:31:12,120 --> 02:31:15,240
completely out5 and reduce the other one

2192
02:31:15,240 --> 02:31:18,120
by 10

2193
02:31:18,120 --> 02:31:19,880
city council

2194
02:31:19,880 --> 02:31:22,960
yes city council correct

2195
02:31:22,960 --> 02:31:28,240
yes make so we're not going back and for

2196
02:31:28,240 --> 02:31:33,840
here but you're saying CPR $5,000

2197
02:31:33,840 --> 02:31:38,309
move so just that

2198
02:31:38,319 --> 02:31:40,680
okay I I don't I don't support that I

2199
02:31:40,680 --> 02:31:42,680
think that work is important and that

2200
02:31:42,680 --> 02:31:44,120
they they are not compensated some

2201
02:31:44,120 --> 02:31:45,800
boards are that we have so the

2202
02:31:45,800 --> 02:31:47,160
opportunity do training so that they

2203
02:31:47,160 --> 02:31:50,200
could do to the best ability I don't um

2204
02:31:50,200 --> 02:31:52,479
feel like one person necessarily should

2205
02:31:52,479 --> 02:31:54,200
be have only have the opportunity to go

2206
02:31:54,200 --> 02:31:56,720
so I don't support that like I said we

2207
02:31:56,720 --> 02:32:01,319
pay other boards for a lot less time and

2208
02:32:01,319 --> 02:32:02,760
this board isn't paid at all this is

2209
02:32:02,760 --> 02:32:04,680
just something to improve their skill

2210
02:32:04,680 --> 02:32:14,190
set to serve the

2211
02:32:14,200 --> 02:32:17,160
city so um and I just wanted to also

2212
02:32:17,160 --> 02:32:18,760
just rais the question are we keeping

2213
02:32:18,760 --> 02:32:21,640
the mechanic one

2214
02:32:21,640 --> 02:32:26,240
position that position which P am on on

2215
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:30,520
yeah just okay so it's um a

2216
02:32:30,520 --> 02:32:33,200
5132 it was the motor operator that the

2217
02:32:33,200 --> 02:32:34,640
overnight

2218
02:32:34,640 --> 02:32:45,230
position that we had

2219
02:32:45,240 --> 02:32:50,110
discussed

2220
02:32:50,120 --> 02:32:53,230
it's up for

2221
02:32:53,240 --> 02:32:54,920
discussion

2222
02:32:54,920 --> 02:33:06,630
$5,000

2223
02:33:06,640 --> 02:33:09,399
benefit I I made my position clear but

2224
02:33:09,399 --> 02:33:12,240
Mr umon said that we really need it so

2225
02:33:12,240 --> 02:33:14,720
if we're going to do that then um to

2226
02:33:14,720 --> 02:33:17,479
missor suggest I guess we should look at

2227
02:33:17,479 --> 02:33:20,359
the fees for services fees for Serv

2228
02:33:20,359 --> 02:33:22,399
because this is supposed to save us

2229
02:33:22,399 --> 02:33:26,160
money well it's also designed to improve

2230
02:33:26,160 --> 02:33:28,840
the efficiency so that we're doing

2231
02:33:28,840 --> 02:33:30,319
maintenance work on

2232
02:33:30,319 --> 02:33:34,960
vehicles off the 8:4 9 to5 schedule so

2233
02:33:34,960 --> 02:33:37,439
that the vehicles are ready to go the

2234
02:33:37,439 --> 02:33:39,359
following morning as opposed to having

2235
02:33:39,359 --> 02:33:41,720
them take it out of

2236
02:33:41,720 --> 02:33:43,880
circulation during the day when people

2237
02:33:43,880 --> 02:33:46,720
would want to use it so are you saying

2238
02:33:46,720 --> 02:33:48,439
there will be no we don't expect to see

2239
02:33:48,439 --> 02:33:52,670
any savings by having this

2240
02:33:52,680 --> 02:33:55,319
position

2241
02:33:55,319 --> 02:33:57,600
there where you have an oil

2242
02:33:57,600 --> 02:34:00,720
change you still have to have the oil

2243
02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:05,200
change if you do it 9 to5 you take the

2244
02:34:05,200 --> 02:34:07,880
card out of circulation so we can't use

2245
02:34:07,880 --> 02:34:11,680
it if you do it 3 to 11 or whatever that

2246
02:34:11,680 --> 02:34:14,840
time frame is you can have the vehicle

2247
02:34:14,840 --> 02:34:17,640
back in service

2248
02:34:17,640 --> 02:34:18,960
the following

2249
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:21,800
morning now some of those hopefully we

2250
02:34:21,800 --> 02:34:24,359
would pick up some savings but you're

2251
02:34:24,359 --> 02:34:25,600
still going to have to pay for an oil

2252
02:34:25,600 --> 02:34:27,840
change you're still going to have to do

2253
02:34:27,840 --> 02:34:31,040
some of that work and you have to ask

2254
02:34:31,040 --> 02:34:33,399
Paul specifically what we think some of

2255
02:34:33,399 --> 02:34:37,000
those incremental savings could be but

2256
02:34:37,000 --> 02:34:39,000
just we're looking for operational

2257
02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:41,000
efficiency is the big thing in that

2258
02:34:41,000 --> 02:34:43,960
position so I'm yeah I'm clear on that I

2259
02:34:43,960 --> 02:34:45,720
just want to know if if we're having

2260
02:34:45,720 --> 02:34:46,880
this position position for our

2261
02:34:46,880 --> 02:34:49,520
operational efficiency and we're sending

2262
02:34:49,520 --> 02:34:51,960
some of these cars out now to do some of

2263
02:34:51,960 --> 02:34:53,279
the work this individual would be

2264
02:34:53,279 --> 02:34:55,800
assigned to do so we on our fees for

2265
02:34:55,800 --> 02:34:59,000
service lines is a reasonable amount to

2266
02:34:59,000 --> 02:35:01,040
um to see if we can get those

2267
02:35:01,040 --> 02:35:03,680
savings but miss my point we're going to

2268
02:35:03,680 --> 02:35:05,520
still have to when we send the car out

2269
02:35:05,520 --> 02:35:07,880
we pay for the oil change outside I'm

2270
02:35:07,880 --> 02:35:11,720
saying we do the oil change inous M

2271
02:35:11,720 --> 02:35:15,000
we're not necessarily saving money like

2272
02:35:15,000 --> 02:35:16,720
that

2273
02:35:16,720 --> 02:35:18,200
well according to Mr fa because we have

2274
02:35:18,200 --> 02:35:20,600
to transport the car somebody's time all

2275
02:35:20,600 --> 02:35:20,960
that

2276
02:35:20,960 --> 02:35:23,680
[Music]

2277
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:26,200
so I understand what you're that's a

2278
02:35:26,200 --> 02:35:28,600
savings of work not Savings of money so

2279
02:35:28,600 --> 02:35:31,240
instead of sending two people to

2280
02:35:31,240 --> 02:35:33,640
specifically what to the dealership to

2281
02:35:33,640 --> 02:35:36,319
get the oil changed you do it here those

2282
02:35:36,319 --> 02:35:39,720
two individuals can now stay working

2283
02:35:39,720 --> 02:35:41,319
well there if we're if we're having some

2284
02:35:41,319 --> 02:35:42,840
of the overnight doing some of this work

2285
02:35:42,840 --> 02:35:44,520
I it's hard for me to understand why

2286
02:35:44,520 --> 02:35:46,200
we're not having some savings if this

2287
02:35:46,200 --> 02:35:47,640
person is doing additional work that

2288
02:35:47,640 --> 02:35:50,560
we're now sending out it just doesn't

2289
02:35:50,560 --> 02:35:54,359
make sense that right so ask Paul

2290
02:35:54,359 --> 02:35:56,960
anticipate

2291
02:35:56,960 --> 02:36:00,040
SCH so can we have that question until

2292
02:36:00,040 --> 02:36:14,910
Paul

2293
02:36:14,920 --> 02:36:27,670
please

2294
02:36:27,680 --> 02:36:44,870
oh oh I forgot what to

2295
02:36:44,880 --> 02:36:48,030
do

2296
02:36:48,040 --> 02:36:54,540
any other

2297
02:36:54,550 --> 02:37:04,550
[Music]

2298
02:37:04,560 --> 02:37:08,800
suggest and just to add more rep that is

2299
02:37:08,800 --> 02:37:10,640
on page

2300
02:37:10,640 --> 02:37:14,120
36 just for for us to you

2301
02:37:14,120 --> 02:37:16,359
know clarity

2302
02:37:16,359 --> 02:37:20,750
a 5132

2303
02:37:20,760 --> 02:37:24,840
462 that line is budget last year for

2304
02:37:24,840 --> 02:37:27,319
950

2305
02:37:27,319 --> 02:37:32,560
95,000 and they asked um for 2024 is

2306
02:37:32,560 --> 02:37:36,240
999,000 so it's actually going

2307
02:37:36,240 --> 02:37:39,200
up it's cting

2308
02:37:39,200 --> 02:37:41,160
materials no I just I just want to

2309
02:37:41,160 --> 02:37:44,790
highlight that

2310
02:37:44,800 --> 02:37:49,160
all

2311
02:37:49,170 --> 02:37:57,870
[Applause]

2312
02:37:57,880 --> 02:37:58,920
what was the

2313
02:37:58,920 --> 02:38:01,319
number oh page

2314
02:38:01,319 --> 02:38:05,319
36 last year 999,000 was um in the

2315
02:38:05,319 --> 02:38:07,560
adoped budget I got it thank you and

2316
02:38:07,560 --> 02:38:14,710
2024 proposed was

2317
02:38:14,720 --> 02:38:44,710
990,000

2318
02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:47,479
o

2319
02:38:47,479 --> 02:38:49,080
so I think it's worth noting we're

2320
02:38:49,080 --> 02:38:51,479
moveing to an apparent recess it's

2321
02:38:51,479 --> 02:38:53,800
getting the accurate listing of unfilled

2322
02:38:53,800 --> 02:38:56,200
but viewing those compared to the

2323
02:38:56,200 --> 02:38:58,160
significance police and fire not getting

2324
02:38:58,160 --> 02:39:01,479
their full overtime ask so that's the

2325
02:39:01,479 --> 02:39:04,279
conversation that we're trying to

2326
02:39:04,279 --> 02:39:07,080
answer so I know that every department

2327
02:39:07,080 --> 02:39:10,880
has a need but based on Mr Toro's Excuse

2328
02:39:10,880 --> 02:39:12,600
Me Miss Patrick I apologize Miss

2329
02:39:12,600 --> 02:39:15,880
Patrick's comments um that is one of her

2330
02:39:15,880 --> 02:39:18,399
Strunk on so I that is what we're

2331
02:39:18,399 --> 02:39:20,080
looking to answer tomorrow I think I'm

2332
02:39:20,080 --> 02:39:22,160
the only person though that said that so

2333
02:39:22,160 --> 02:39:24,960
not everybody actually has uh weigh in

2334
02:39:24,960 --> 02:39:35,870
on the Police Empire except

2335
02:39:35,880 --> 02:39:38,960
for well I'm waai in but not in terms of

2336
02:39:38,960 --> 02:39:41,680
like fully funding um so I you know I I

2337
02:39:41,680 --> 02:39:44,000
point out that we

2338
02:39:44,000 --> 02:39:48,279
have we there's been a lot of um funding

2339
02:39:48,279 --> 02:39:49,560
that we've given toward towards the

2340
02:39:49,560 --> 02:39:51,359
police department throughout the year

2341
02:39:51,359 --> 02:39:54,760
throughout the years and whenever we um

2342
02:39:54,760 --> 02:39:56,560
give additional funding it's always been

2343
02:39:56,560 --> 02:39:58,120
that this is going to help us reduce our

2344
02:39:58,120 --> 02:40:00,040
overtime that is always what our

2345
02:40:00,040 --> 02:40:02,040
understanding is uh I I can tell you

2346
02:40:02,040 --> 02:40:04,200
this because if we put sro's in the

2347
02:40:04,200 --> 02:40:06,800
school and that was a major ask and do

2348
02:40:06,800 --> 02:40:09,160
we now begin to look at whether um

2349
02:40:09,160 --> 02:40:11,720
having SRO and schools is is what we

2350
02:40:11,720 --> 02:40:13,439
should be doing or should be putting

2351
02:40:13,439 --> 02:40:15,359
officers back on the street given the

2352
02:40:15,359 --> 02:40:19,040
fact that the school has a safety

2353
02:40:19,040 --> 02:40:22,279
team so I think even the school district

2354
02:40:22,279 --> 02:40:25,319
has said that the SR have been very very

2355
02:40:25,319 --> 02:40:27,920
important to have a school also think

2356
02:40:27,920 --> 02:40:29,680
they give us money for they're pay

2357
02:40:29,680 --> 02:40:31,240
they're paying for those yeah they pay

2358
02:40:31,240 --> 02:40:34,040
for the but the fact is we're talking

2359
02:40:34,040 --> 02:40:35,560
about there's like n enough officers on

2360
02:40:35,560 --> 02:40:38,439
the street so approaching it from that

2361
02:40:38,439 --> 02:40:41,359
perspective School District generates

2362
02:40:41,359 --> 02:40:44,240
enough calls to support those officers

2363
02:40:44,240 --> 02:40:46,960
so good we put them out on the street

2364
02:40:46,960 --> 02:40:48,880
it's only on paper because they're going

2365
02:40:48,880 --> 02:40:51,120
to be responding to calls that are

2366
02:40:51,120 --> 02:40:53,880
originating from the schools we have to

2367
02:40:53,880 --> 02:40:55,760
look at every aspect of how we're

2368
02:40:55,760 --> 02:40:57,080
utilizing our

2369
02:40:57,080 --> 02:40:59,760
Workforce my stance has been very clear

2370
02:40:59,760 --> 02:41:02,800
on the police over time and overtime

2371
02:41:02,800 --> 02:41:05,750
budget since the

2372
02:41:05,760 --> 02:41:08,920
beginning so don't need to say the other

2373
02:41:08,920 --> 02:41:10,800
thing we have to consider is if we once

2374
02:41:10,800 --> 02:41:13,240
all these amounts are calculated if we

2375
02:41:13,240 --> 02:41:16,399
still don't get to to fully fun

2376
02:41:16,399 --> 02:41:19,600
um both police and fire overtime then

2377
02:41:19,600 --> 02:41:21,520
you know we should be figuring about how

2378
02:41:21,520 --> 02:41:24,040
we're going to figure that out so that

2379
02:41:24,040 --> 02:41:25,399
needs to be something to think about we

2380
02:41:25,399 --> 02:41:28,160
don't know the numbers yet but it may

2381
02:41:28,160 --> 02:41:33,230
not be the number that we

2382
02:41:33,240 --> 02:41:36,439
need understand but we should also look

2383
02:41:36,439 --> 02:41:38,680
at fees for service I'm just suggesting

2384
02:41:38,680 --> 02:41:40,000
Stu I'm not saying

2385
02:41:40,000 --> 02:41:42,640
that we should look at that as a body

2386
02:41:42,640 --> 02:41:45,880
here since we have already looked at the

2387
02:41:45,880 --> 02:41:49,520
VES new proposal why the suggestion on

2388
02:41:49,520 --> 02:41:50,840
my side is to look at the fees of

2389
02:41:50,840 --> 02:41:54,359
service and to achieve what we set up to

2390
02:41:54,359 --> 02:41:57,710
achieve here

2391
02:41:57,720 --> 02:42:00,000
because I think in doing that we should

2392
02:42:00,000 --> 02:42:01,399
definitely be looking at the year-to DAT

2393
02:42:01,399 --> 02:42:04,240
as well so that we're you know we you

2394
02:42:04,240 --> 02:42:06,279
haven't specified the department but if

2395
02:42:06,279 --> 02:42:07,319
we're going to be looking at fees for

2396
02:42:07,319 --> 02:42:09,040
service I think for each department that

2397
02:42:09,040 --> 02:42:10,399
we look at that we should also look at

2398
02:42:10,399 --> 02:42:11,920
their year-to dat

2399
02:42:11,920 --> 02:42:14,200
stance is that a separate report can we

2400
02:42:14,200 --> 02:42:16,920
pull for that yeah we're going to

2401
02:42:16,920 --> 02:42:21,000
till as of tomorrow actual as of today

2402
02:42:21,000 --> 02:42:25,110
as of

2403
02:42:25,120 --> 02:42:28,320
today 30 60 days by the time

2404
02:42:28,320 --> 02:42:32,150
[Music]

2405
02:42:32,160 --> 02:42:35,600
us and we can look at that and then look

2406
02:42:35,600 --> 02:42:38,479
at the savings on these there after you

2407
02:42:38,479 --> 02:42:44,349
provide us the report on the vaces on

2408
02:42:44,359 --> 02:42:53,110
the

2409
02:42:53,120 --> 02:42:57,429
any other suggestion that we can give

2410
02:42:57,439 --> 02:42:59,760
to so they can bring some numbers back

2411
02:42:59,760 --> 02:43:01,680
to us look at

2412
02:43:01,680 --> 02:43:04,439
it it's not it's not that you're you're

2413
02:43:04,439 --> 02:43:07,200
making sub to cut it's not bringing it

2414
02:43:07,200 --> 02:43:08,760
to table so that we can look at it on a

2415
02:43:08,760 --> 02:43:11,800
broader scale and see if we can get some

2416
02:43:11,800 --> 02:43:15,080
more because the end of the day whatever

2417
02:43:15,080 --> 02:43:17,359
we save will help

2418
02:43:17,359 --> 02:43:20,280
um two

2419
02:43:20,280 --> 02:43:21,680
[Music]

2420
02:43:21,680 --> 02:43:26,590
departments and I'm willing to do

2421
02:43:26,600 --> 02:43:28,880
that I'm not going to take my

2422
02:43:28,880 --> 02:43:33,040
Ang here to make a session and follow I

2423
02:43:33,040 --> 02:43:39,070
encourage all of us to do this thing

2424
02:43:39,080 --> 02:43:41,439
please look over the budget this evening

2425
02:43:41,439 --> 02:43:42,920
when you go

2426
02:43:42,920 --> 02:43:54,990
home I know I know it's painful

2427
02:43:55,000 --> 02:43:57,120
so there's I don't think there's nothing

2428
02:43:57,120 --> 02:43:59,800
else we can do at this point in time um

2429
02:43:59,800 --> 02:44:02,720
we have um takeaways from here for Mr

2430
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:05,439
and his team to work on for us tomorrow

2431
02:44:05,439 --> 02:44:06,920
please email that to

2432
02:44:06,920 --> 02:44:08,680
us

2433
02:44:08,680 --> 02:44:11,840
dates can I thr some suggestions job

2434
02:44:11,840 --> 02:44:14,200
still it it is your job and your

2435
02:44:14,200 --> 02:44:16,160
responsibility and if you can get that

2436
02:44:16,160 --> 02:44:19,160
email to us so we will have we will look

2437
02:44:19,160 --> 02:44:21,479
at it ahead of time try to get before

2438
02:44:21,479 --> 02:44:23,040
the afternoon actually and I encourage

2439
02:44:23,040 --> 02:44:24,560
every memb to please check your email

2440
02:44:24,560 --> 02:44:25,840
look at it come back with your

2441
02:44:25,840 --> 02:44:28,600
suggestion and let's um see where we are

2442
02:44:28,600 --> 02:44:30,960
and we're here tomorrow 5 I think right

2443
02:44:30,960 --> 02:44:32,800
yes we already called for that meeting

2444
02:44:32,800 --> 02:44:44,150
smart the morning

2445
02:44:44,160 --> 02:45:14,070
think

2446
02:45:14,080 --> 02:45:15,760
for

2447
02:45:15,760 --> 02:45:19,520
we didn't update the revenue from the school district with regard to

2448
02:45:19,520 --> 02:45:22,520
police take yeah I don't think we update

2449
02:45:22,520 --> 02:45:23,880
that that was

2450
02:45:23,880 --> 02:45:26,760
Clos I think we got last year and I

2451
02:45:26,760 --> 02:45:28,560
think we got two quarters of this year

2452
02:45:28,560 --> 02:45:30,439
yes we didn't get the third quarter

2453
02:45:30,439 --> 02:45:33,960
there's a facil increase in 2020 2% 2%

2454
02:45:33,960 --> 02:45:37,120
yeah and then actually year it's three

2455
02:45:37,120 --> 02:45:40,000
two three okay but you know like I say

2456
02:45:40,000 --> 02:45:43,040
it's not 100% those guys they only get

2457
02:45:43,040 --> 02:45:47,990
forgot how much is per person they get

2458
02:45:48,000 --> 02:45:53,279
you want it's not I'm saying that the portion of uh benefits they don't

2459
02:45:53,279 --> 02:45:55,800
get

2460
02:45:55,800 --> 02:45:59,920
just the SS the SS schools yeah yeah we

2461
02:45:59,920 --> 02:46:02,920
need to yeah we should we should revisit

2462
02:46:02,920 --> 02:46:10,870
those

2463
02:46:10,880 --> 02:46:12,640
contracts

2464
02:46:12,640 --> 02:46:16,399
right yeah was any more time here I

2465
02:46:16,399 --> 02:46:20,080
think so we'll recess until tomorrow um

2466
02:46:20,080 --> 02:46:21,319
5:00

2467
02:46:21,319 --> 02:46:23,800
p.m. and anticipating and you're going

2468
02:46:23,800 --> 02:46:26,479
to have all those information to us try

2469
02:46:26,479 --> 02:46:28,960
to get to as much as you can and

2470
02:46:28,960 --> 02:46:31,920
appreciate it so motion to recess until

2471
02:46:31,920 --> 02:46:33,200
tomorrow 5:00

2472
02:46:33,200 --> 02:46:34,720
p.m.

2473
02:46:34,720 --> 02:46:38,520
second all in favor

2474
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:40,720
I so I don't need to call the meeting

2475
02:46:40,720 --> 02:46:41,720
for order because we already have a

2476
02:46:41,720 --> 02:46:44,000
scheduled special meeting for

2477
02:46:44,000 --> 02:47:10,870
tomorrow

2478
02:47:10,880 --> 02:47:13,910
what I

2479
02:47:13,920 --> 02:47:43,910
wanted

2480
02:47:43,920 --> 02:47:46,920
l