1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:28,960 [Music] 2 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:31,620 yeah 3 00:00:31,620 --> 00:03:28,670 [Music] 4 00:03:28,680 --> 00:03:31,220 yeah 5 00:03:31,220 --> 00:03:55,550 [Music] 6 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:57,360 I'd like to call to order the San city 7 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,280 council committee meeting for Monday 8 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:00,720 November 6 9 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,040 2023 our first um committee is Public 10 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:05,959 Safety Mr Williams I'd like to call the 11 00:04:05,959 --> 00:04:07,439 Public Safety Committee to order we have 12 00:04:07,439 --> 00:04:09,239 three items on the agenda tonight first 13 00:04:09,239 --> 00:04:11,480 of which is the Edward burn Memorial 14 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,959 Justice assistance grant formul program 15 00:04:13,959 --> 00:04:16,840 local solicitation fiscal year 2023 16 00:04:16,840 --> 00:04:21,870 that'll be discussed 17 00:04:21,880 --> 00:04:24,919 [Music] 18 00:04:24,919 --> 00:04:28,720 by good evening good evening I'm here to 19 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:30,680 present two different grants uh from the 20 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:32,440 Department of Justice the first one is 21 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,680 the Jag Grant which is in conjunction 22 00:04:34,680 --> 00:04:37,800 with the uh scy County DA's office we 23 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:46,469 are looking for you guys to accept 24 00:04:46,479 --> 00:04:49,240 $23,170 for our Patrol officers and 25 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:50,800 there is zero match involved with this 26 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:54,280 grant thank Chief any questions or 27 00:04:54,280 --> 00:04:58,520 comments move those all in favor and the 28 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,039 second item is the dyj fiscal year 2023 29 00:05:02,039 --> 00:05:04,039 both through best partnership 30 00:05:04,039 --> 00:05:06,880 Grant uh this one we asking that you 31 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:08,720 accept $ 32 00:05:08,720 --> 00:05:11,800 34844 42 towards the purchase of new 33 00:05:11,800 --> 00:05:15,880 vests um that is towards 52 total vests 34 00:05:15,880 --> 00:05:19,800 this is 50% of the cost of the vest well 35 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:22,639 for our um existing officers every 5 36 00:05:22,639 --> 00:05:24,800 years we replace and then anytime we 37 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,639 have a new officer this goes half of 38 00:05:27,639 --> 00:05:29,240 that and the New York State reimburses 39 00:05:29,240 --> 00:05:32,360 for the other half as well and so that' 40 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:36,160 be the 50% match any questions or 41 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,280 comments so it's already with within the 42 00:05:38,280 --> 00:05:40,199 operational budget you're saying the our 43 00:05:40,199 --> 00:05:43,560 bch yes thank you any other questions or 44 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:47,160 comments those second all in favor I 45 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:52,400 thank you Chief thank you uh the last item is a discussion replacing 46 00:05:52,400 --> 00:05:55,400 current traffic signals um excited to 47 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:57,240 have this brought back uh definitely it 48 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,080 sounded as if the actions were being 49 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:01,240 taken already uh to discuss this 50 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:04,880 intersection and I believe Mr CIO or Mr 51 00:06:04,880 --> 00:06:10,749 Wallen one of us is 52 00:06:10,759 --> 00:06:13,360 here be able to some context of what's 53 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:15,720 been happening behind the scenes sure so 54 00:06:15,720 --> 00:06:18,560 um actually councilman Doro uh several 55 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,120 months ago brought to our attention um a 56 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:24,800 request to potentially add a left turn 57 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,080 uh on Eerie Boulevard going Southbound 58 00:06:27,080 --> 00:06:30,440 at Union Street um at the time 59 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,639 we told her that this had been something 60 00:06:32,639 --> 00:06:34,720 that had been discussed several times in 61 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,960 the past um along with the intersection 62 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,560 of state and eie potentially putting the 63 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:42,960 left turn there as well in the same 64 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:44,520 direction 65 00:06:44,520 --> 00:06:48,120 um past uh traffic studies that were 66 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:50,919 performed um showed that there was 67 00:06:50,919 --> 00:06:55,240 potentially um large buildup of traffic 68 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:58,840 um that would um reduce the level of 69 00:06:58,840 --> 00:07:00,759 service of the intersection because if 70 00:07:00,759 --> 00:07:03,479 you add any kind of movement you have to 71 00:07:03,479 --> 00:07:05,039 have a certain amount of time for that 72 00:07:05,039 --> 00:07:06,919 movement right so that could you know 73 00:07:06,919 --> 00:07:08,680 although it's based on the traffic 74 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:11,800 volumes um um the minimal numbers are 75 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,360 probably between 10 and 15 seconds that 76 00:07:14,360 --> 00:07:17,199 we have to add to the cycle length so um 77 00:07:17,199 --> 00:07:19,440 looking at it and um with the number of 78 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,759 different requests we've had uh since 79 00:07:21,759 --> 00:07:24,400 then and um before then from other 80 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:27,680 people um we evaluated it again and we 81 00:07:27,680 --> 00:07:29,560 feel that although it's probably not the 82 00:07:29,560 --> 00:07:31,039 best thing in the world to do for 83 00:07:31,039 --> 00:07:34,800 traffic um based on safety concerns and 84 00:07:34,800 --> 00:07:37,520 um you know the requests from people uh 85 00:07:37,520 --> 00:07:41,160 we're looking to add it at the um Union 86 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,280 and eie intersection because that would 87 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,120 uh cause less of a problem than the 88 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,879 Eerie Boulevard one um adding a left 89 00:07:48,879 --> 00:07:51,720 turn at the Eerie uh state in Erie um 90 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:54,759 would actually back up um State Street 91 00:07:54,759 --> 00:07:58,039 past Broadway and caused more problems 92 00:07:58,039 --> 00:08:00,360 um can't just look at it uh just for the 93 00:08:00,360 --> 00:08:03,440 one intersection as well um the the 94 00:08:03,440 --> 00:08:05,240 blocks are very short there's not a lot 95 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:09,080 of distance for um stacking of vehicles 96 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,000 um so you know one or the other the 97 00:08:12,000 --> 00:08:14,479 Union Street is probably the better one 98 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:17,800 to look at um so at this point we I 99 00:08:17,800 --> 00:08:19,400 talked to Chris Wallen he's around here 100 00:08:19,400 --> 00:08:21,199 someplace he's going to assist us in 101 00:08:21,199 --> 00:08:23,800 looking to get uh video detection so 102 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:25,520 that we don't have to uh put any 103 00:08:25,520 --> 00:08:28,120 detectors in the roadway um with video 104 00:08:28,120 --> 00:08:29,720 detection you can actually draw the 105 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,120 zones on the on the ground you know from 106 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:33,719 the camera and it'll pick up the 107 00:08:33,719 --> 00:08:36,200 vehicles uh uh based on the direction 108 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:40,880 they're going um and the one thing 109 00:08:40,880 --> 00:08:43,560 that's remaining is I have to uh double 110 00:08:43,560 --> 00:08:45,920 check the traffic signal poles and make 111 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:48,760 sure that they can take another uh 112 00:08:48,760 --> 00:08:51,399 couple of traffic signal sections um to 113 00:08:51,399 --> 00:08:53,600 make sure we we have to do a loading on 114 00:08:53,600 --> 00:08:56,680 them to um make sure that uh the pole 115 00:08:56,680 --> 00:08:58,600 designs that they are can take the extra 116 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:00,959 load so so that'll be done in the next 117 00:09:00,959 --> 00:09:03,800 uh week or so um at the same time we 118 00:09:03,800 --> 00:09:05,480 have to check to make sure that there's 119 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:07,519 uh sufficient wiring or we have to add a 120 00:09:07,519 --> 00:09:10,760 wire uh for that uh additional phase but 121 00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:13,480 um should you know be an easy thing to 122 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,959 complete awesome perfect um definitely 123 00:09:16,959 --> 00:09:19,040 it's fair to recognize that there are 124 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:20,360 conversations that happen away from this 125 00:09:20,360 --> 00:09:22,360 table so definitely thank you Mr Toro 126 00:09:22,360 --> 00:09:24,200 but in the absence of here many updates 127 00:09:24,200 --> 00:09:26,200 there was an individual that came for to 128 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:27,680 one of our Council meetings just 129 00:09:27,680 --> 00:09:29,399 identifying as the continued issue that 130 00:09:29,399 --> 00:09:31,120 they're experiencing and I also think 131 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:33,279 it's important to identify to the city 132 00:09:33,279 --> 00:09:35,079 that there are projects that are taking 133 00:09:35,079 --> 00:09:38,079 place without uh any uh continued 134 00:09:38,079 --> 00:09:40,000 updates uh but definitely this is a 135 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,600 reflection of how uh in-depth of 136 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:44,440 research was needed to identify the 137 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,440 proper answer and although there sounds 138 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:48,640 to be there's going to be some cascading 139 00:09:48,640 --> 00:09:51,279 effects from putting this addition in 140 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:53,000 seconds uh I think it's important to 141 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:55,000 make sure that we're prioritizing uh not 142 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,200 only pedestrian safety but also vehicle 143 00:09:57,200 --> 00:09:59,440 safety and from myself it's a 144 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:01,480 challenging leftand turn so I can only 145 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:03,760 imagine for other individuals but want 146 00:10:03,760 --> 00:10:05,440 to offer any questions or comments from 147 00:10:05,440 --> 00:10:06,959 my it is you got to try to sneak in 148 00:10:06,959 --> 00:10:14,230 there early or wait till we all know 149 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:18,800 that please yeah the I don't know I mean 150 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:20,440 I know John correct me if I'm wrong I do 151 00:10:20,440 --> 00:10:22,279 not know if an exclusive we is 152 00:10:22,279 --> 00:10:24,120 necessarily in the best interest of all 153 00:10:24,120 --> 00:10:28,560 pedestrians and those have left will meet we have a lot of complaints 154 00:10:28,560 --> 00:10:31,360 from pedestrians who travel exclusive 155 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,399 lefts are not a benefit for them so I 156 00:10:33,399 --> 00:10:34,720 just want to make sure that we're we're 157 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,480 helping the vehicles we're not 158 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:38,240 necessarily helping the pedestrians 159 00:10:38,240 --> 00:10:39,480 because what that means is now when 160 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:41,040 you're taking that left the people who 161 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:44,000 would be Crossing Union Street they got 162 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:45,720 they will have a stop they're not 163 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:47,120 allowed because now they're not allowed 164 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,680 because you're telling the cars to cross 165 00:10:49,680 --> 00:10:51,720 so that's one component of this the 166 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,399 second component is hopefully long range 167 00:10:54,399 --> 00:10:56,279 planing the J Street connector gets 168 00:10:56,279 --> 00:10:59,079 constructed we can somehow push track 169 00:10:59,079 --> 00:11:01,920 traffic onto the J Street connector to 170 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:03,639 get them away from the left turn so they 171 00:11:03,639 --> 00:11:05,959 take the left turn at the roundabout so 172 00:11:05,959 --> 00:11:07,560 you go through the roundabout you go 173 00:11:07,560 --> 00:11:09,120 through which isn't really a left turn 174 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,079 right around about just a rotary then 175 00:11:11,079 --> 00:11:12,800 you take the right onto the connector 176 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:14,399 and then you're into there so you're 177 00:11:14,399 --> 00:11:16,519 trying to steal some of those people off 178 00:11:16,519 --> 00:11:17,880 of earring so hopefully we can 179 00:11:17,880 --> 00:11:20,200 recondition people 180 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:23,320 because I agree it's going to be safer 181 00:11:23,320 --> 00:11:26,920 but I also agree that in 2 years or in 4 182 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:29,320 years we may be back here talk talk 183 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:32,200 about that left term it's also a good 184 00:11:32,200 --> 00:11:35,160 opportunity to talk about how we have to 185 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,200 reinforce um that pedestrians follow the 186 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:39,959 walk lights and that they press the 187 00:11:39,959 --> 00:11:42,360 buttons and wait for them to um you know 188 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:44,360 show the proper indications before they 189 00:11:44,360 --> 00:11:46,639 cross the street too often do we see 190 00:11:46,639 --> 00:11:49,279 people just walk up to the corner 191 00:11:49,279 --> 00:11:51,000 sometimes look sometimes not holding 192 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:52,680 their cell phone and just cross the 193 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:54,839 street so it's a good opportunity to 194 00:11:54,839 --> 00:11:58,560 remind people to do that absolutely M um 195 00:11:58,560 --> 00:12:00,639 thank you Mr Williams I think it's like 196 00:12:00,639 --> 00:12:02,959 a 17sec walk there because I do walk 197 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:06,000 over to storts a lot um but still uh 198 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:07,440 people coming down Union Street are 199 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:08,920 always taking a right on are headed 200 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:12,079 towards like the casino so it's it's 201 00:12:12,079 --> 00:12:15,920 really bad pedestrian uh crosswalk as it 202 00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,480 is sure and at the same time when we do 203 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,920 this we'll be looking at the timing on 204 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:23,199 um all of the phases of that signal to 205 00:12:23,199 --> 00:12:24,760 see if we can squeeze a couple of 206 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:26,920 seconds out of those other approaches so 207 00:12:26,920 --> 00:12:28,880 that we can add to that left turn and 208 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:31,920 miniz the negative impacts of adding 209 00:12:31,920 --> 00:12:34,639 that phase thank you any other questions 210 00:12:34,639 --> 00:12:37,440 or comments so I just want yes thank you 211 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:38,880 so can you talk about squee you're not 212 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:40,240 talking about lessening The Pedestrian 213 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,839 time though are you no okay CU that to 214 00:12:42,839 --> 00:12:46,399 me I mean I talking about monitoring the 215 00:12:46,399 --> 00:12:49,000 volume of vehicles on each approach and 216 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,240 making sure that we don't have too much 217 00:12:51,240 --> 00:12:53,800 time for them so that we can take that 218 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:56,519 time out the max times out and add them 219 00:12:56,519 --> 00:12:59,120 to the left turn and not add too many 220 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:01,800 seconds to the entire phase uh entire 221 00:13:01,800 --> 00:13:05,160 cycle and the new video will assist that 222 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:10,519 absolutely okay yeah thank Mr one uh so 223 00:13:10,519 --> 00:13:12,240 if there are no other items that Beall 224 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:13,720 the Public Safety Committee may please 225 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,639 have motion to again second all in 226 00:13:16,639 --> 00:13:18,839 favor I'd like to call the order City 227 00:13:18,839 --> 00:13:20,600 development and planning and we have 12 228 00:13:20,600 --> 00:13:23,440 items on the agenda uh the first item is 229 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,750 follow up of arpa contracts Miss 230 00:13:27,760 --> 00:13:29,880 Carver 231 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,959 evening I'm always so excited to present 232 00:13:32,959 --> 00:13:36,440 to the body the updates on the art for 233 00:13:36,440 --> 00:13:40,480 funding so um the most recent updates we 234 00:13:40,480 --> 00:13:42,079 have we have contracts that have been 235 00:13:42,079 --> 00:13:44,399 approved by the city council and signed 236 00:13:44,399 --> 00:13:47,320 by the way the mayor awaiting execution 237 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,920 from our sub recipients and that will 238 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:51,720 include the Green Market scat and 239 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:54,519 Hamilton Hill currently in corporate 240 00:13:54,519 --> 00:13:58,199 Council review is contracts are Boys and 241 00:13:58,199 --> 00:14:00,440 Girls Club club and the seat 242 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,519 Center pending submission for corporate 243 00:14:03,519 --> 00:14:05,160 counsil review and when I say pending 244 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:07,360 submission meaning these sub recipients 245 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:08,920 may be missing some of the 246 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,639 pre-contractual documents that are 247 00:14:10,639 --> 00:14:12,680 required to move forward with contract 248 00:14:12,680 --> 00:14:15,720 is connected Kanas club and the Coco 249 00:14:15,720 --> 00:14:20,399 house the other um subrecipients that we 250 00:14:20,399 --> 00:14:23,279 have were ex were granting an extension 251 00:14:23,279 --> 00:14:25,560 of some sort so there's no update on 252 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,279 that until they their time frame comes 253 00:14:28,279 --> 00:14:31,079 which will in the YWCA for Harbor House 254 00:14:31,079 --> 00:14:33,519 their extension was to March 24 the 255 00:14:33,519 --> 00:14:36,360 Electric City Bar Barn the same March 256 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,199 2004 America W crate which their 257 00:14:38,199 --> 00:14:40,399 extension is coming up which is December 258 00:14:40,399 --> 00:14:41,199 of 259 00:14:41,199 --> 00:14:44,920 2023 and the bcni Hamilton Hill um 260 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:47,320 infield project and when is theirs oh 261 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:48,800 they we didn't give them time we are 262 00:14:48,800 --> 00:14:51,480 still waiting for approval 263 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:54,639 okay and those will be my only 264 00:14:54,639 --> 00:14:57,680 updates any questions is there 265 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,800 any 266 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,839 just to be with Koh house so they came 267 00:15:01,839 --> 00:15:07,360 and asked for a um change so they 268 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:08,680 couldn't have a contract CU we've not 269 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,320 had that no that's what they're pending 270 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:11,800 submission they're still missing some of 271 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:13,480 the pre-contract documents that are 272 00:15:13,480 --> 00:15:17,000 needed even without us changing okay all 273 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:18,920 right that's what I want to know all 274 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,560 right any other questions all right so 275 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:24,920 I'm glad we're moving ahead it's isn't 276 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:27,399 it exciting it is so exciting it's 277 00:15:27,399 --> 00:15:29,480 movement so we're we'll take it we'll 278 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:32,040 take it it's movement um the next item 279 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,000 the jewy Community Foundation that's not 280 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,839 will not be that'll be pulled from the 281 00:15:35,839 --> 00:15:39,160 agenda for today yes please all right 282 00:15:39,160 --> 00:15:41,600 thank you thank 283 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:44,839 you uh Mr Wallen to operate the change 284 00:15:44,839 --> 00:15:46,079 order for to the contract for the 285 00:15:46,079 --> 00:15:47,800 Michigan Avenue ball 286 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:55,350 field in the amount of 287 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:58,920 $90,000 hello this is a uh change order 288 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,440 for the Michigan Avenue um I would say 289 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:02,880 little leag field as most of you would 290 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,120 know it but it's actually not little 291 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:06,920 leag um what we had is we awarded a base 292 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:08,600 contract of 293 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:11,199 $89,000 at this location to construct a 294 00:16:11,199 --> 00:16:13,199 retaining wall uh this was under the ARP 295 00:16:13,199 --> 00:16:15,920 funding the retaining wall was so that a 296 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:17,240 pavilion could be built behind the 297 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:19,199 bleachers and it would be a level area 298 00:16:19,199 --> 00:16:21,399 for people to gather as there was a 299 00:16:21,399 --> 00:16:24,600 slope um the wall is complete um it 300 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,480 looks good however I'm back up a little 301 00:16:27,480 --> 00:16:29,399 bit that base bid was put out with an 302 00:16:29,399 --> 00:16:31,480 alternate at the time we didn't do the 303 00:16:31,480 --> 00:16:33,000 alternate because we wanted to see how 304 00:16:33,000 --> 00:16:36,399 the base bid went we lik the base bid um 305 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:37,920 the little we reached out Michigan ad 306 00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:40,000 reached out to us and asked if we could 307 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:42,839 do the alternate which was essentially 308 00:16:42,839 --> 00:16:44,839 the same price we did it in that way 309 00:16:44,839 --> 00:16:46,759 just so that we could kind of see what 310 00:16:46,759 --> 00:16:48,920 we were getting into with the project um 311 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:50,079 it's essentially the same amount of 312 00:16:50,079 --> 00:16:52,199 length the first phase you could see out 313 00:16:52,199 --> 00:16:54,560 there went from their staircase 130 ft 314 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:56,360 up towards the field where they have the 315 00:16:56,360 --> 00:16:58,079 flat area this phase would go from the 316 00:16:58,079 --> 00:17:00,040 end of that that wall and wrap around 317 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:02,519 left field uh bringing that up to gray 318 00:17:02,519 --> 00:17:04,720 the idea is if that brings up to gray 319 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,240 they have more of a walking area and 320 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:10,559 they can also construct a a bullpen uh 321 00:17:10,559 --> 00:17:13,720 off of Left Field um usually uh on these 322 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:15,160 little leag Fields what you try to do is 323 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:16,640 you try to have a bullpen in left field 324 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:18,120 and right field so that when the kids 325 00:17:18,120 --> 00:17:19,439 are warming up they're outside of the 326 00:17:19,439 --> 00:17:21,919 field to play but because of the grade 327 00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:23,400 uh it doesn't allow that so what they've 328 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:25,679 had to do is construct the bullpens in 329 00:17:25,679 --> 00:17:28,199 the back around center field but it's 330 00:17:28,199 --> 00:17:29,679 kind inconvenient cuz you got to kind of 331 00:17:29,679 --> 00:17:31,480 walk down the hill around the fence down 332 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,200 the grade up the grade and around so um 333 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,640 they liked how it looked so much they 334 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:38,440 wanted to use an additional $90,000 in 335 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:40,520 arpa funding to pretty much finish the 336 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:43,840 project you know um that would leave in 337 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:46,520 the arpa funding a balance of 338 00:17:46,520 --> 00:17:51,110 $171,000 just so that you're 339 00:17:51,120 --> 00:17:55,000 aware um so this particular U pot of 340 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:57,039 funding was not only for Michigan but 341 00:17:57,039 --> 00:18:00,000 also for Oregon correct so um that would 342 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:01,320 that's that's what it would Le and what 343 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:04,960 was the total 350 350 yep so and 344 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,799 essentially half of it going to Michigan 345 00:18:06,799 --> 00:18:08,520 for the 346 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:14,600 wall half of the uh 90 90 180 of the the 347 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:18,840 350 and then um I did speak with um you 348 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:20,280 know JC the things that they're looking 349 00:18:20,280 --> 00:18:23,039 at doing at the Oregon facility were spr 350 00:18:23,039 --> 00:18:26,840 sprinklers fencing bleachers and to look 351 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:29,200 at reestablishing the abandoned softball 352 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,799 field in the wooded area behind uh so 353 00:18:31,799 --> 00:18:32,960 they would have 354 00:18:32,960 --> 00:18:36,000 $171,000 to do that work they believe 355 00:18:36,000 --> 00:18:38,159 that that is uh 356 00:18:38,159 --> 00:18:41,600 sufficient so you know I'm put it up to 357 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,799 you guys for a decision I I don't know 358 00:18:43,799 --> 00:18:46,080 uh what other work they could be doing I 359 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:47,400 don't know if anyone has any information 360 00:18:47,400 --> 00:18:49,159 for them I'm not active with both 361 00:18:49,159 --> 00:18:50,720 leagues too 362 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,440 much you know the upgrades to the field 363 00:18:53,440 --> 00:18:54,799 would be the fence as you say the 364 00:18:54,799 --> 00:18:57,640 irrigation is important to maintain the 365 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,760 grass and the field reduce the amount of 366 00:18:59,760 --> 00:19:01,840 work that they have to do which is a big 367 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,559 thing maintaining the field uh the fence 368 00:19:04,559 --> 00:19:07,280 obviously is a big thing um getting that 369 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,320 other field up to grade so that they can 370 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,360 restart some of the additional programs 371 00:19:11,360 --> 00:19:12,760 is always important of course the 372 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:16,200 bleachers so people can watch their kids 373 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,840 um that they're pretty confident that 374 00:19:18,840 --> 00:19:21,080 they can uh do what they need to do 375 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,919 there so um it would be good for the 376 00:19:23,919 --> 00:19:26,960 kids and good for uh the league are you 377 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,310 speaking about organ or 378 00:19:30,320 --> 00:19:33,919 oron so Mr so this would not erode the 379 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:36,400 money the 50% towards 380 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,520 Oregon so what I'm saying is that this 381 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:46,520 would leave 50% Oran I'm not saying that was supposed to be a 50/50 split I don't you know the applications were 382 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,640 made and for instance I I'll say I um 383 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,760 you know one of the things that was 384 00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:53,280 kicked around was the idea that we do 385 00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,360 far less work at Michigan and we put you 386 00:19:55,360 --> 00:19:58,640 know astro turf infield at JC you know 387 00:19:58,640 --> 00:20:01,559 but that is expensive so now the thought 388 00:20:01,559 --> 00:20:04,360 is you know what maybe that's in a you 389 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:06,120 know a different relev we'll get rid of 390 00:20:06,120 --> 00:20:08,000 that we'll go to leveling irrigation 391 00:20:08,000 --> 00:20:09,919 systems fencing and we'll keep it at 392 00:20:09,919 --> 00:20:12,039 kind of the at this level you know 393 00:20:12,039 --> 00:20:13,559 there's not many fields around here that 394 00:20:13,559 --> 00:20:15,120 are at the little Le level with astral 395 00:20:15,120 --> 00:20:17,360 turf I know of 396 00:20:17,360 --> 00:20:20,000 one do do you have a timeline in terms 397 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,240 of the AR the organ field I don't have a 398 00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,039 timeline for Oregon no um as you're 399 00:20:25,039 --> 00:20:27,520 probably aware the people who are 400 00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:29,200 involved with Michigan AB are more 401 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:30,320 aggressive than the people who were 402 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:33,360 involved with JC so you know I'm working 403 00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:35,520 with them more to get these things done 404 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,400 because there's more of that where as 405 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:39,600 the JC I'm not going to say they're not 406 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,559 as organized it's just they're not as 407 00:20:42,559 --> 00:20:44,240 coming to me as much so this is 408 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,240 something where we wanted to get the 409 00:20:45,240 --> 00:20:47,600 walls done get the project done it was 410 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,480 also in coordination remember with the 411 00:20:50,480 --> 00:20:53,159 uh oh my God Sky Foundation project 412 00:20:53,159 --> 00:20:54,520 because that was part of theirs and I 413 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:56,120 didn't want them to you know use that 414 00:20:56,120 --> 00:20:58,600 money for this so this is going to be a 415 00:20:58,600 --> 00:21:00,840 winter offse project to kind of see what 416 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:03,400 it is these projects are really 417 00:21:03,400 --> 00:21:05,880 difficult for me because they are lots 418 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:08,039 of little things and you have to kind of 419 00:21:08,039 --> 00:21:10,000 bid them itemized because nobody you 420 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,400 know fencing fencing great bleachers we 421 00:21:12,400 --> 00:21:13,559 usually have to buy the bleachers 422 00:21:13,559 --> 00:21:15,400 ourselves maybe put them together 423 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:19,080 sprinklers once again small so you're splitting all these up so it's 424 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:21,120 really you know it's four different 425 00:21:21,120 --> 00:21:23,520 contracts whereas this wall was one 426 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:25,960 fence wall all together so when when all 427 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:27,679 the work is completed at Michigan Avenue 428 00:21:27,679 --> 00:21:28,679 field 429 00:21:28,679 --> 00:21:30,159 you will have available 430 00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:32,159 $171,000 right 431 00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:34,720 now it could be used for right now yes 432 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,360 okay thank 433 00:21:37,360 --> 00:21:41,080 you um so you said this was a ask but I 434 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:42,960 when in reading the what you what was 435 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:44,840 given to us it said that originally you 436 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,720 didn't think that it was necessary um or 437 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,039 you you didn't put it in this part of so 438 00:21:50,039 --> 00:21:52,320 correct um is there any particular 439 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:54,400 reason why I just want to why it 440 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:56,559 initially wasn't and now it's being the 441 00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:58,840 ask is coming from um yeah no I I think 442 00:21:58,840 --> 00:22:01,080 it was because it's one of those things 443 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:02,559 where at first when you do these things 444 00:22:02,559 --> 00:22:04,360 you have a little bit of a sticker shock 445 00:22:04,360 --> 00:22:05,840 and you look at it and you say you know 446 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:07,720 oh that's a lot of money and then you 447 00:22:07,720 --> 00:22:09,279 start to see it and you start to see 448 00:22:09,279 --> 00:22:11,279 what it looks like and how the impact is 449 00:22:11,279 --> 00:22:12,880 and now when you go out there you see 450 00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:15,080 this beautiful wall and it kind of ends 451 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:17,320 and it's like people are going you know 452 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:18,720 what if we're going to do it we might as 453 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:21,039 well do it and so I think that's where 454 00:22:21,039 --> 00:22:23,159 it is to wrap it around and just get it 455 00:22:23,159 --> 00:22:25,960 done and me in my position I'm always 456 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,559 trying to be the fiscally conservative 457 00:22:27,559 --> 00:22:29,279 one you know what I mean and then the 458 00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,679 council can over overrule me every time 459 00:22:31,679 --> 00:22:33,120 if I said I wanted to do the one you 460 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,279 said we want to do it all great I'll 461 00:22:35,279 --> 00:22:37,720 spend the money but at the first plus it 462 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,720 was like you know let's be constrainted 463 00:22:39,720 --> 00:22:41,320 so I think that they see it and now it 464 00:22:41,320 --> 00:22:44,240 looks half finished and that was kind of 465 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,520 the the impetus for wanting to do 466 00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:49,789 more 467 00:22:49,799 --> 00:22:52,840 okay any other questions or discussions 468 00:22:52,840 --> 00:22:54,240 run 469 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,159 this I'll second alls in favor while 470 00:22:58,159 --> 00:22:59,440 you're here I do want to can I ask you 471 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:00,960 another question about parks in general 472 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,880 sure um because it looks like we're 473 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,240 doing a lot in different parks and we're 474 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,640 also hearing from people now about what 475 00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:08,200 about this park what about that park is 476 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,919 there an overall Park 477 00:23:09,919 --> 00:23:13,120 plan um for the other Parks who are not 478 00:23:13,120 --> 00:23:16,440 included not included in well we heard 479 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,200 from who was well I won't Cary Street we 480 00:23:19,200 --> 00:23:21,840 heard from and then there's there was 481 00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:24,600 one other so do we have an overall Park 482 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,880 plan I guess is not right now okay no so 483 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:28,159 uh right now the parks that are I'm 484 00:23:28,159 --> 00:23:30,159 coming to you the majority of them are 485 00:23:30,159 --> 00:23:31,600 the ones that we have funded with arpa 486 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,360 money because we funded quite a few 487 00:23:33,360 --> 00:23:36,080 parks with arpa money and uh we are just 488 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,240 trying to get them out the door so uh 489 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:41,320 next just so you're aware uh on the arpa 490 00:23:41,320 --> 00:23:42,679 parks list is we are going to be doing 491 00:23:42,679 --> 00:23:44,919 the Michigan a Central Park tennis 492 00:23:44,919 --> 00:23:47,000 courts because we're trying to get them 493 00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:49,559 ready for the season which starts uh 494 00:23:49,559 --> 00:23:53,159 June 6th so that's the next ARA one uh 495 00:23:53,159 --> 00:23:55,360 we're also working with grout Park which 496 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:58,720 has some money and um what's another one 497 00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,080 that we're working on well the lighting 498 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,279 one up I don't know if anybody saw that 499 00:24:02,279 --> 00:24:04,039 on the a diamond it's not functioning 500 00:24:04,039 --> 00:24:06,080 yet there is a large back order with 501 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:07,960 electrical panels but the lights are up 502 00:24:07,960 --> 00:24:09,880 so all we have to do is get some panels 503 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:12,080 and we can turn them off okay but yeah 504 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:13,679 right now arpa Parks projects are the 505 00:24:13,679 --> 00:24:15,520 focus there is not a larger Parks plan 506 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,159 so Parks like carry Street or Parks uh 507 00:24:19,159 --> 00:24:20,679 that really didn't get that level of 508 00:24:20,679 --> 00:24:22,559 funding they're not in a the capital as 509 00:24:22,559 --> 00:24:24,200 you see it's 510 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:28,480 just TBD they're the next round M 511 00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,960 all right all right thank you thank you 512 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,360 so is the recreation advisory committee 513 00:24:33,360 --> 00:24:35,480 not we need to um reassemble the 514 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,279 recreation advisory committee so I have 515 00:24:37,279 --> 00:24:40,039 to talk to Mayor McCarthy about that 516 00:24:40,039 --> 00:24:43,159 again oh okay there's there's only three 517 00:24:43,159 --> 00:24:45,000 people right now on it so we just need 518 00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,200 to recruit a few more M those okay are 519 00:24:47,200 --> 00:24:49,880 you looking for members we take 520 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,080 suggestions we're always looking for 521 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:56,880 thanks all right um the next item is a 522 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:58,600 ceremonial resolution for breast cancer 523 00:24:58,600 --> 00:25:00,799 awareness Miss Patrick yes um Breast 524 00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,520 Cancer Awareness Month actually was 525 00:25:02,520 --> 00:25:05,240 October um we have in the past um done 526 00:25:05,240 --> 00:25:08,039 that resolution um and we missed it 527 00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:09,720 somehow this year but I think that it's 528 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,240 important to continue to do it um the 529 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,720 connecting firefighters Cancer 530 00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:15,919 Foundation uh wants to be involved with 531 00:25:15,919 --> 00:25:19,080 this as well they had approached um so 532 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,600 I'm hoping that we can do the ceremonial 533 00:25:20,600 --> 00:25:23,159 resolution right looking for a 534 00:25:23,159 --> 00:25:29,159 motion so so Mo second all in favor I I 535 00:25:29,159 --> 00:25:31,200 okay uh you're welcome the next one is 536 00:25:31,200 --> 00:25:33,799 ceremoni resolution for SK bont Pop 537 00:25:33,799 --> 00:25:36,960 Warner M dor yes hi so the uh under 10 538 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:38,840 went to the uh Super Bowl and They 539 00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,080 carried on and went even further um I've 540 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:44,279 been speaking with uh the uh individuals 541 00:25:44,279 --> 00:25:46,440 and um we're going to uh present this at 542 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,720 a later date oh not the council meeting 543 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,720 okay thank you you're welcome um on 544 00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,399 entertain a motion so move second all in 545 00:25:54,399 --> 00:25:57,840 favor I thank you uh ceremon a 546 00:25:57,840 --> 00:25:59,000 resolution 547 00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,120 for uh complete Imports on their 50th 548 00:26:02,120 --> 00:26:04,880 Anniversary yes so um we will be 549 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:07,720 presenting that um on the 13th at the 550 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,039 store so um yep so so that I'll present 551 00:26:11,039 --> 00:26:13,399 it a later uh the actual resolution I'll 552 00:26:13,399 --> 00:26:15,520 present to them at a later date okay so 553 00:26:15,520 --> 00:26:17,640 you'll be at this you because that's the 554 00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,440 day we're passing it the 1th right so 555 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:23,720 yes okay later date 556 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:29,870 okay um just a reminder there's 557 00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:32,159 I'm sorry I need to enter a motion so 558 00:26:32,159 --> 00:26:35,120 second all in favor I I thank you I'll 559 00:26:35,120 --> 00:26:37,760 just a reminder this coming uh Monday 560 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:38,919 there'll be presentation of the 561 00:26:38,919 --> 00:26:40,679 connected hardware and electric ceremony 562 00:26:40,679 --> 00:26:42,279 resolution which we passed a few weeks 563 00:26:42,279 --> 00:26:43,840 ago they they were not able to make it 564 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,200 though that they will be here for this 565 00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:47,320 coming Monday's 566 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,840 meeting all right um next item is 567 00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:53,320 discussion of ailia paper streak um that 568 00:26:53,320 --> 00:26:56,039 one need to be in ex session because 569 00:26:56,039 --> 00:26:58,600 include negotiations okay 570 00:26:58,600 --> 00:27:00,399 all right and it looks like everything 571 00:27:00,399 --> 00:27:02,559 beyond that is going to also be need to 572 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,559 be an executive session for sale of 573 00:27:04,559 --> 00:27:06,799 properties so at this point in time I'll 574 00:27:06,799 --> 00:27:09,240 entertain a motion to recess City 575 00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:11,520 development and planning so Mo second 576 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,960 all in favor we're 577 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,120 recess thank you ID like to call the 578 00:27:16,120 --> 00:27:18,200 finance committee to order and the first 579 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:19,919 item is call for public hearing on the 580 00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:23,679 dsad budget any discussion on 581 00:27:23,679 --> 00:27:27,720 this I'll move it second all in favor I 582 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,200 the next item is calling for public 583 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:30,720 hearing on the upper Union Street 584 00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,279 business Improvement District budget any 585 00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:39,720 discussion on this second all in favor I the next item is the discussion of 586 00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:42,200 2024 operating 587 00:27:42,200 --> 00:27:44,640 budget and I would just to give an 588 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:47,960 update and U this evening myself and M 589 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,640 pfield 590 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,200 and Mari had a discussion on the way 591 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:56,519 forward for the 2024 operating 592 00:27:56,519 --> 00:27:59,000 budget I do think that we had a very 593 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,880 fruitful um discussion this this 594 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,000 afternoon and there were some very um 595 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,000 important discussion in terms of how we 596 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:07,320 move forward in 597 00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:11,000 addressing some of um some items that 598 00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:13,880 will generate additional Revenue um into 599 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,919 the 2024 budget and those things will be 600 00:28:15,919 --> 00:28:17,919 discussed in terms of looking at 601 00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,760 commercial U garbage commercial water 602 00:28:20,760 --> 00:28:23,600 commercial SE and at the same time um 603 00:28:23,600 --> 00:28:26,200 the jackpot garbage fee um that the 604 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,200 mayor team has been working on for some 605 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,760 time and also the dumpster rental that 606 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:33,799 the city had recently provided and they 607 00:28:33,799 --> 00:28:35,559 can look at that if the surface can be 608 00:28:35,559 --> 00:28:38,159 provided an additional Revenue so those 609 00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:40,720 are the four items that we discussed and 610 00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:44,360 um they may ask for some time for his 611 00:28:44,360 --> 00:28:45,480 stff to 612 00:28:45,480 --> 00:28:48,440 prepare um reports for us and to provide 613 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,440 to the council so that we can able to 614 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,519 look at the numbers for these four items 615 00:28:53,519 --> 00:28:55,200 and how do we move forward from that in 616 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,519 terms of raising the fees on the 617 00:28:56,519 --> 00:28:58,039 commercial side 618 00:28:58,039 --> 00:29:00,000 if we can achieve that it will ease the 619 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:02,760 burden on what we're pushing to 620 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,320 reduce and able to arrive at a budget 621 00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:09,919 that will try to try to make everybody 622 00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:12,399 happy M pfield you want to address that 623 00:29:12,399 --> 00:29:15,159 no I think that's cover the I mean we've 624 00:29:15,159 --> 00:29:16,279 been trying for a while but we 625 00:29:16,279 --> 00:29:18,080 definitely needed to look at um one of 626 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:19,480 the pushing points was that we didn't 627 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:21,840 want to burden our tax our residence as 628 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,159 much so we have definitely looked at the 629 00:29:24,159 --> 00:29:26,320 um the commercial side and see where we 630 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,559 are with that and how we can um meet in 631 00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:32,320 the middle somewhere in terms of what uh 632 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:33,799 the revenue that we need to generate in 633 00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:37,480 order to not to increase the um the fees 634 00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,240 um for our residents as much so we have 635 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,880 that discussion and I also uh 636 00:29:43,880 --> 00:29:46,360 encourage council members if there are 637 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:47,440 other things that they're concerned 638 00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:48,840 about they want to make sure that we 639 00:29:48,840 --> 00:29:50,799 discuss and really get this and finally 640 00:29:50,799 --> 00:29:52,799 get this budget P the police provide 641 00:29:52,799 --> 00:29:54,240 that information any other questions 642 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:55,600 that you have any other concerns that 643 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,039 you have you can um follow them to Miss 644 00:29:58,039 --> 00:29:59,559 Michael who will then disseminate them 645 00:29:59,559 --> 00:30:02,120 to all of us including the mayor um but 646 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,360 we you know we've been trying to get 647 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,000 there and I think we're closer now than 648 00:30:07,000 --> 00:30:09,519 we have been and um once we get these 649 00:30:09,519 --> 00:30:12,320 numbers uh the mayor will will have that 650 00:30:12,320 --> 00:30:13,960 discussion and then um the mayor will 651 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,919 also and I can't um so he will be 652 00:30:16,919 --> 00:30:18,440 speaking to his his department heads in 653 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:20,880 terms of other places that maybe if if 654 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:22,880 there are an ability to make reductions 655 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,480 so that's something that the mayor will 656 00:30:24,480 --> 00:30:26,799 do with his staff that know the council 657 00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,480 does not have any role in that but um so 658 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,279 the ultimate goal is to to make sure 659 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,480 that we um don't increase the rates of 660 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,279 our residents as much that we're able to 661 00:30:36,279 --> 00:30:37,919 still function and do the work um that 662 00:30:37,919 --> 00:30:41,760 the city needs to do and um come to a 663 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,440 budget that everyone can agree on um 664 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:46,200 hopefully there will be unanimous 665 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:48,679 consent on this budget that is the goal 666 00:30:48,679 --> 00:30:50,880 but we we don't know until we get comes 667 00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,399 time to vote so at this point in time Mr 668 00:30:53,399 --> 00:30:55,840 um Mr Mayor McCarthy has asked for more 669 00:30:55,840 --> 00:31:01,159 time to do that and Mr um Mr Mudan so 670 00:31:01,159 --> 00:31:03,880 did you want to I was going to ask M do 671 00:31:03,880 --> 00:31:05,960 you just want to add any different 672 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,039 scenarios that will have thing the 673 00:31:08,039 --> 00:31:09,279 easiest thing to have the numbers by 674 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:11,440 next Tuesday if you want them tonight 675 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:15,360 I'll hold people or order people back to 676 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:18,679 put it together and again just we're 677 00:31:18,679 --> 00:31:21,960 close and bringing this all together the 678 00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,600 cuts though the council has to come up 679 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,360 with a number I go back to the 680 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:30,029 Department 681 00:31:30,039 --> 00:31:32,600 to tell them what we have to work with 682 00:31:32,600 --> 00:31:34,559 and what number we have to come together 683 00:31:34,559 --> 00:31:38,120 on to put a backage in place but I 684 00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:40,360 thought what we said go ahead Mr M I 685 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,320 thought we we look at the the the 686 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,600 revenue from the water SE on garbage and 687 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:46,080 the jackpot garbage fee on the 688 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:48,919 commercial side and then we'll then 689 00:31:48,919 --> 00:31:51,360 we'll look at what we need to address on 690 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:53,720 the cuts that was proposed maybe you 691 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:56,320 might necess understand need to and then 692 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,440 we just have to SL and was had to put 693 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:01,440 back some money there so I think we 694 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,080 agree to look at this for us and then 695 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,320 address 696 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,799 that on the cut that was suggested 697 00:32:07,799 --> 00:32:09,519 recommended by the council majority of 698 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:12,200 the council and you had um asked for 699 00:32:12,200 --> 00:32:13,720 Time by towards 700 00:32:13,720 --> 00:32:16,000 day latest or next 701 00:32:16,000 --> 00:32:18,080 Tuesday be the easiest to put it 702 00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:19,919 together guess we'll provide those 703 00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:22,799 scenarios so Council have it I'll get it 704 00:32:22,799 --> 00:32:25,320 to you as soon as we have it in place 705 00:32:25,320 --> 00:32:26,519 okay yeah we want to give you a time we 706 00:32:26,519 --> 00:32:29,159 don't want to get have you know 24 hours 707 00:32:29,159 --> 00:32:31,760 or tonight that's that's unreasonable on 708 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,000 my side to ask them to do it tonight or 709 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,840 tomorrow tomorrow is a holiday anyway 710 00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,039 the staff so we have options here we can 711 00:32:40,039 --> 00:32:42,159 recess U the finance committee meeting 712 00:32:42,159 --> 00:32:43,919 until Tuesday if everybody's available 713 00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:46,399 next Tuesday and in the meantime the 714 00:32:46,399 --> 00:32:47,679 mayor and the staff will get all 715 00:32:47,679 --> 00:32:51,039 information email it to us we I'm not 716 00:32:51,039 --> 00:32:53,919 available what about Wednesday I'm out 717 00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:57,639 of town from basically Tuesday through 718 00:32:57,639 --> 00:33:00,159 Friday well actually so am I no I'm 719 00:33:00,159 --> 00:33:02,399 thinking about it I'm away from Tuesday 720 00:33:02,399 --> 00:33:04,760 to Friday next week so that pushes into 721 00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:08,070 the following 722 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:21,110 week thank you for saying 723 00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,480 that because tomorrow is a holiday 724 00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:26,000 because of election and Friday is a 725 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:30,000 holiday also this week Veterans Day so 726 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,000 the staff only has two days to put this 727 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:35,519 into this week and next week um what 728 00:33:35,519 --> 00:33:38,669 about the 729 00:33:38,679 --> 00:33:41,600 14th Tuesday that's the next Tuesday 730 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:43,240 that's Tuesday that's Tuesday I mean the 731 00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:46,120 21 we're both the 14th 732 00:33:46,120 --> 00:33:48,600 that's sorry sorry I'm just thinking 733 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:50,559 this 734 00:33:50,559 --> 00:33:55,950 way it's going so fast 735 00:33:55,960 --> 00:34:00,990 yeah 736 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:04,320 I mean we can recess Monday um 737 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:06,880 5:30 and if we can agree on number then 738 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,760 we can move it for unanimous consent on 739 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,720 the 740 00:34:11,720 --> 00:34:14,909 Monday 741 00:34:14,919 --> 00:34:18,079 13 I mean that works for me sometimes 742 00:34:18,079 --> 00:34:23,359 I'm overly optimistic in well we we can we can do that and you know if 743 00:34:23,359 --> 00:34:24,879 the numbers are moving the way we're 744 00:34:24,879 --> 00:34:26,960 moving then we can have it there on 13 745 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:28,520 pass it if not we'll just go to a 746 00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,119 reserve date if we can have a reserve 747 00:34:31,119 --> 00:34:34,720 date of the following week the 20th 748 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:36,800 which is or 749 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,359 24th if we can agree if we can get all 750 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:41,639 information by the 13 to meet so I can 751 00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,040 recess for 752 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:47,280 5:30 or 5:00 on Monday the 13th if that 753 00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,599 is okay with 754 00:34:48,599 --> 00:34:50,839 everybody and hopefully we can get it on 755 00:34:50,839 --> 00:34:54,000 to the my unanimous consent 5:30 is that 756 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:57,560 too late to get it on unanimous consent 757 00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:00,520 is it 5 or 5:30 it will have to be 5 758 00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:01,800 okay because they will give us at least 759 00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,040 an hour and a half two hours so would 760 00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:05,359 that be 761 00:35:05,359 --> 00:35:07,920 okay so click so we can get we could 762 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:10,160 still get on 763 00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:14,400 consent so so 5:00 on 764 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,079 13th now do we need to a back 765 00:35:17,079 --> 00:35:21,870 update on the 766 00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:25,079 24th for some reason we can't I hope I I 767 00:35:25,079 --> 00:35:26,560 don't want to do this but we we will get 768 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:31,000 it is it 13th but if they go ahead if we 769 00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:32,839 don't get in 13th we don't just recess 770 00:35:32,839 --> 00:35:35,599 again so and then do we need to do that 771 00:35:35,599 --> 00:35:39,839 date right now recess on the 1 and then 772 00:35:39,839 --> 00:35:42,920 okay if we don't get that if we don't 773 00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:44,880 but I I'm finger crossed I think we're 774 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,920 going to have a budget by the 775 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,400 13 running the risk of being overly 776 00:35:49,400 --> 00:35:51,440 optimistic with the May it seems like we 777 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:53,240 should be able to do it things are 778 00:35:53,240 --> 00:35:54,760 moving in the right 779 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,599 direction all right so we'll recess the 780 00:35:57,599 --> 00:36:00,040 finance committee meeting for November 781 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:06,230 13th at 5:00 782 00:36:06,240 --> 00:36:09,440 p.m. you good yes it is that small 783 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:16,230 business award thing so I don't know 784 00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:18,480 that well I can always get somebody else 785 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:25,710 to appear 786 00:36:25,720 --> 00:36:27,720 but 787 00:36:27,720 --> 00:36:31,109 motion is on the 788 00:36:31,119 --> 00:36:33,920 table to recess 789 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:38,680 oh I'll second all in favor I thank 790 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:41,040 you any other business support finance 791 00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,960 committee no sorry 792 00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,760 say all right I'd like i' like to I'd 793 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:50,800 like to reconvene uh City development 794 00:36:50,800 --> 00:36:54,520 and planning and the items um that are 795 00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,119 remaining all need to be an exec 796 00:36:58,119 --> 00:37:00,400 session at this point I'd like to ask 797 00:37:00,400 --> 00:37:01,720 for a motion to go to the executive 798 00:37:01,720 --> 00:37:13,950 session second all those in 799 00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,960 favor