I'd like to call City committee meeting
for Monday November 13
2023 and I'd like to turn it over to the
chair of Finance thank you I would like
to reconvene the finance
committee and just sorry before we go
into disc discussion where we left off
last time we met we had um asked U the
mayor and the administration to give us
several reports regarding the waste
water and Su so on the commercial side
so we were fortunate to receive those
reports so on this sheet here you should
have the um water and stool commercial
breakdown and on this sheet you will
have the um the G break
down so thank you umari for giving us um
this breakdown in terms of where we are
in terms of Marshall and theal
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um
Brees um we we didn't receive any um
analysis fee analysis for the
jackpot and I think we still have
outstanding the um vacancies a breakdown
of the vacancy report uh we're waiting
on HR HR said they cannot produce it
from 2018 because they don't have enough
information to
go why would it matter I mean these are
the jobs that are vacant now I
mean I think also adding to that is also
looking at where any interview they were
mentioned on the table here that they
were interview and put the potential
higher and we would like to look at that
for no there what any
uh of those things
happen so I will open discussion in
terms of the commercial water sewer and
the
garbage and then we can address those
um
still outstanding
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reports and sorry you should also have
this report here this is just a
breakdown of the last um the most
updated version from Mr ferari what we
discussed and what was F commited so
this is just for our
so Mr M um we do have a debate on Mr fre
this is what we give to us today did you
want you have that yes does I have all
the stuff that was asked her in terms of
a hire interview no it's just it's just
somebody I don't know if Miss Patrick
you ask for that
for we we asked when they were looking
at um trying so okay where can we adjust
somebody were saying on the T here that
there are people who are being
interviewed I think it was a May was
saying that yes yeah sorry and the HR
was going to provide us that information
to know which category
of the information they request is like
go back to 2018 that was part they went
back to 2021 and she said she couldn't
go she she doesn't even know how to go
back to 2018 to get that information but
any know it doesn't really matter and
this is these are the vacant jobs we
have now yeah you know I that's what you
got to decide you you want to keep it
you want end them or whatever you have
that report
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so so Mr go ahead so when we when initi
when I initially asked that information
Derek did not say Mr did not say that
you could he simply said that the um
person was out and so you're now this is
the first time I'm hearing today that we
can't asked her today she said she
doesn't even know how to go back to to
see right now can she go back to 2021
well
should that's what she was able to
do and the reason that um that the
request was to go back beyond that when
we were discussing the vacancy um it was
consistently said part of the reason
they weren't filled is because of Co so
we were trying to look at what what same
positions were still vacant preo so
that's why the ask was to go back
further to look at pre-co to really make
an informed decision if if the argument
was that's because of Co that it wasn't
fil so that's why if you if you want to
go through one by one you can just see
like the city clerk we took off the cler
L because you said
that's uh the IPS three that's pretty
much a new position right yeah you had
that long in a position right the
assistant Corporation Council even
probably back to 2012 there's been
openings in assistant Corporation C for
years right um
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Andrew ass
Corporation you had openings for years
my understanding is I don't know what
has been in previous budgets for
openings but I know that shortly before
I started there were
I believe six attorneys in the
corporation council's office um
Corporation councel Deputy Corp counsel
um three assistant court councils and
then there was one person who hadn't
passed the bar but had graduated from
law school that was doing attorney an
attorney Ro
position that was the last time and I
believe that was either
20 early 2018 early 2017
perhaps that was before my time of
sitting
yeah so you see since the time we've
been here has always been opening since
then that's not the L we
trying P AIT cork uh it say we're just
waiting for a test that's why I took it
off engineering it another one that's a
new position that started last year
there was somebody in it but now it's
vacant next uh in
2024 utilities this is a new position
that just came up uh because of all the
retirements uh it this is just get
another it person John's are going to be
leaving and they're reestablishing the
whole it Department uh I took out the
police and fire fighters the dog control
officer we've had a missing a person
missing there in the last five years
that's because we had two people there
they both went out on top and now we
just got one person that's been like
that for the last 3 four years em just
before you go you just mentioned we
removed the police and fire we're not
addressing VES
that's why I remove them that's that's a
no touch now
the uh that always going to be vacancies
because people retire people come in
there's always openings you know so
there's always going to be openings of
that the motor equipment the guy that
works alone at light at night that's
vacant now but that's you still have
nobody made a decision if you want to
keep it or not so I put it on as a
vacant uh vacant as of 2024 again
there's there more nvos uh Code
Enforcement Officers as you know you
know we've had trouble every year trying
to get Code Enforcement Officers so for
the last two three years that's been
vacant code enforcement supervisor this
is pretty much a uh what we had before
was a part-time person was a supervisor
uh he had left uh two three years ago
and that's still a vacant position now
senior planner just opened up this year
we had the planner was there he left and
then the CD supervising I took them out
only because those are all newly vacant
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positions
going back to going back to the top City
CL clerical we're removing that
position I fig it out because they have
there some in that position cleric there
was two clerical positions the one
person vacated last week yeah so you
know saying it's going to be re redone
right you're going to reill it right or
I can refill the IPS three that's vac
right now but it's it's open
right M Michael you you're okay with um
not funding that clerically one of them
yes
okay any question on these vacancies
so we also recommend we asked for um the
ones that we asked to be taken out do we
have a report on that ones from the
dere um so when we went through it we
had all of us had the they will be on
this that's these are all the ones we
asked to be taken out
yes okay
yeah if we were to remove any this will
be addition to to
this
mrar the clerical Aid since we're
removing it is not on this report so you
will have to make I'm doing it right now
as
start so the bottom line number is going
to be 121
3601 1 milon
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231 1 million
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1,23
601 1213 601 what we're doing is uh uh we're subtracting out the cleric
a subtracting out the ips3 and then
adding back to clar BL
right okay so the total will be 12 13
601 be
38140 but the cleric a is off of
this we're not putting in the cleric a
right isn't that what you just we're
taking out the CL but keeping the IPS oh
that's the IPS 3 is vac right now right
mhm but it says zero for the clerical
already so they just changed it because
she said she rather do it the other way
okay so this new sheet I'm sorry but the
new sheet that we just got today that
zero is going to be 38 140 and then
we're going to make that 45
9340 and the bottom number is going to
be 1
1213
601
and that just represents salary right
yeah
correct and your final calculation
you'll do the
benefit let's get all that stuff let's
get the number just
percentage so you just want to make up
what your proposing for the um seing
water and for the um they get that
reductions in SE and water and the
changes the let me say in the commercial
searing order because that's where the
changes
were we should do one at a time okay all
right let's go through the water first
is up to you yeah I'm just trying I'm
not really
sure even though I was talking with Mr M
today I wasn't really sure what was
looking for no this is what I was
looking for break away from the original
Carl's proposal of 50% for water and
sewer across the board but then we asked
for to look at the commercial side what
um how many Revenue are being generated
on the commercial side and not including
the residential
so when we look at this here on the
water your the revenue proposed revenue
48666 for water and then on sewer the
proposed
Revenue
776
506 so what you did you just give us a
breakdown to help us to look at what we
had initially proposed by car and that
number yes you did
yeah what I'm recommending is we keep
the the the Merit the
post
increase the commercial rate I mean just
to help help you guys go forward because
I personally think you should listen
raise both rates but that's up to you
guys uh for the water U the mayor's
proposed increase for the water for a
meter uh for unmetered sales you know
the rular roll is only a 7%
increase and now you're talking
residential right correct the
residential will be 7%
increase I
13
yeah 7%
so 556 to 5956 is only 7%
increase
No 7 percentage this is a proposal or
this is after to Carl's um this is just
the mayor's proposal I'm just trying to
explain with Carl's on proposal it's
3.5 Carl's proposal for is only for the
commercial rate would increase it by
15% and you know
uh and I said you would have to make up
the difference by uh the fund balance
and says you just for the water if if
you just use the Mir propos rate on both
ends you have 26% increase in in the
water to to the the the May's proposal
comes to
486 606 and the 7% increase in the UN
meter of 396 then you would have to use
any form balance in the water
dep
do you have the sheet that U sheet in
The Proposal
50% 2024 Council increase yes
243,000 the new rate would be
0364 it's a 133% increase which is half
of what the budget is
50% commercial
yes so this is just for commercial
that's just for commercial now the next leader the Le next line shows the
mayor's proposed amount for uh uh the
housing and that's only s for the
households it's only a 7% increase you
we're going from the 5 500 to
5956 it's at
$396,000 increase it's only 7%
increase
from 2023 so but you didn't then you
didn't give us only the 50% of it then
because the uh John asked me not to do
that yeah because I thought we already
factoring cars um if you want the 50% is
a 198 you're reducing it by 198,000 405
for water for water yeah but then like
again then you're going to have to
increase going to have to use
uh fund
balance to make up the difference so
that's what I'm say I'm not sure what your guys are looking for
here I'm I'm making the suggestion that
you should use the N increases on both
ends May any look for the jackpot um Fe
analysis I don't have you don't
have say that again the jackpot um oh
jackpots jackpots yeah that's garbage
right yes oh
okay go ahead please Mr Ferrari and I
think that you sent us an email also
suggesting that perhaps if we did raise
the rates on commercial that we might
lose customers on the waist side on the
side when when I was I gave you a whole
yeah array of stuff if you looked at it
uh you know the numbers you're trying
you know if you wanted to really get up
into million dollar differences you're
looking at a 500% increase but anything
I think anything above the 50% increase
you will lose customers going forward
you know because just one just won't be
woring yeah that's going to my maximum
500,000 500% increase and we're looking
at 50% increases so the I believe the
revenue is a little bit you know but
it's not as much as the million dollars
you guys are looking
for and I show too you know what how it
affects each each of those how much it
would change the cost of the people
would at the different rates too I want
to see that that's why if I um
me I would like to suggest something
people based on the
conversation and I have today um in
terms of the water I would like to
suggest that we um we go to the proposal
the full ask of 486 606
206% on the commercial side and then go
down to the bottom with sewer I am
proposing the for last 77
6506 and that will bring us in a better
position but that is my recommendation
at the point5 and the on meter I will
stick with Mr Williams proposal initial
proposal of
50% saying 50% of the
meoros that is the res right so 19844
yes what was that number again 198 I
think just did it myself so
19845 yeah we reduce uh the M proposed
budget by 198 405 yeah so that is my
recommendation so go full as to the
proposal 486 606 for
water and 50% for the on meter
residential and full as for the S
77656 they unmuted for the
sewer
you that is also U 50% we stick to the
original 873 734 the reduction from the
mar
873 87
8737
$34 reduction from the May's
proposal from 9.6 million to 8.8
million then I have to figure out how
much uh F balance we going to be using
that
but so I'm I'm happy it's less wait so
we'd have to make up 873 734 plus
19845 is what you're saying is what I'm
thinking there were some adjustment
already made by Mr Williams proposal so
the numbers once this is facturing into
the report it will he will push away um
because initially Miss Patrick they he
they did 50% of both commercial and
residential and now it's being 100% of
commercial and only 50% of
residential I guess I need to see how it
all you see the number there push you're
yeah because we haven't made decisions
about cutting all these vacancies that's that's a whole different fun
that's why I think we need see the big
picture water and sore is separate from
that I understand that I just don't feel
like we can make a decis whatever we do
with the vacancy we we'll go to the
general fund and help offset what we
talked about last week in terms of
pushing back some fun to some of the
lines so I mean that is is what I'm
proposing on the table I mean I think
that's reasonable um compromise on my
side and I hope that you can see the
same way I mean glad that I had a
conversation with Mr today and last week
to get a better understanding of where
we are go ahead please and I'd also like
to add uh thank you very much to your
office for providing these numbers at
least for myself personally having a
better representation of of how to
attribute these increases to our city uh
I think it is fair uh this breakdown of
meeting the mayor's requested ask for
the commercial side while allowing some
Breathing Room FL for our residents um
whom of which have been vocal about um
not having these increases in general
but I think in understanding more the
context that Mr ferari has been speaking
in as we need to start planning for
future years uh hopefully this SS as a
appropriate concession
for and just to add to that to the other
I just mentioned too the commercial
garage I mean I understand I'm Mr F
concerned about people might want to
drop out but I would like to suggest
that we increase on the commercial side
commercial
garbage um to
$5.7 per gallon
50% that will generate this worksheet
here
$114,000 you can go to 100% but that
might be too
extreme I think it's too
extreme you know just around a rle with
this why don't why don't we try to at
least the raise the the regular waste
while on a roll
here go ahead I'd like to know why un
owner
occupied two family houses as well as
units with three units or more aren't
included in the increase
because those are basically commercial
establishments they're small businesses
anything over yeah four it was meter
right okay so that leads out the two and
three family right corre but those are
those will be a homeowner ones that
we're not I'm saying Unown or occupied
yeah those should be
included that is not originally part of
the how the calculation is done not
water yeah yeah yeah that's not part of
the calculation I understand that what
I'm saying is if we're looking at this
from a commercial perspective those are
small businesses they should be included
in that
increase go ahead please I don't believe
that they those properties are metered I
believe those are
unmetered for that is it is it a for
family or hire are for Residential
Properties yes it's 411 4 family or more
would be met should have meters maybe
consider commercial about one to three
or not no I understand I'm saying oh
about making that adjustment it could be
I
think under
four we know how that is something I
want to look in the future 50% increase
will help the one two and three because
that' be per unit you know so the three
unit three separate charges
yes and that is going up by 50% so and
do we have any idea of how many of these
U two family households that have been
converted in the three four or five
Apartments because a lot of those I
believe are not on the books
and can that be a question for code
enforcement yeah that's what I'm
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saying now if we based on garbage uh the
total number of not exempt three
families are
425 436 well 425 not exempt with 11
three families that are exemp uh the
total number of non-exempt two families
is
4,962 and the total number of uh single
families is
9,000 not EXA
9,475 total of
10,168 and those are for
garbage so I fig it's almost about the
same there's a 925 uh exempt properties
you know in the
garbage and like you're saying since
we're talking about waste should we at
least raise regular waste at least 50%
at
least and you're saying to raise it 50%
of the mayor's proposed budget what
you're right okay want to be clear about
that from 78 to 39 and I also think you
should also raise the exent parcels I
mean they've been at
$137 for like P 10 years and that's one two or three family exemp you
know so if if you're a exemp person you
own a three Family House your all three
families you're only paying
$137 it doesn't multiply like uh the
right standard owns you're not playing
137 times three I me you say that that's
um
senior yeah senior uh disability uh and
disabled vets senior disabled and vs vs
yeah and
so you know like S I think we should
minimum because just the one you know
now make sure you going have to raise it
again because you're not raising it
enough now you're you're going to uh
like I said if you raise it uh $39 for
uh uh the units for waste collection and
then also for the exempt
$38 so the new rate would go from 249 to
288 and the parcels exempt Parcels go
137 to
175 yeah you're
talking go ahead and I just wonder you
know by raising the commercial rates is
that going to get passed on to our
residents in a more outstanding way um
when their rates go up
who's going to cover that amount of
money well the same thing going to
happen for um residential too the tenant
pass on to the ten so
it's it's going to affect everybody
across the
board own and renter and business and
business
payr so advocating did not raise the
rates pardon me are you advocating to
not raise the rates then I think it
should should be over not just the
commercial rates I think we everyone
should pay the own share uh residence
and Commercial and not just burden the
commercial part of
it just I said you we did it with the
water sore we maybe we should do the 50%
for Waste too from 78 to 39 I know Merit
is not
enough but I'm just trying to find a
compromise here well let me be clear I
have to have something that is balanced
the revenue is there to pay the debt
service and need you to take that into
consideration may you don't have the fee
analysis for Jack is there like another
week or so together or another couple
days or just a week another day or two
or is that the still working at the
problem also with just the jackpots
become in theory it's self-correcting so
you have the jackpots out there now
uh we're going to find people chargeing
more they're not going to put it out
anymore and so I can't treat that as a
reoccurring Revenue Source going
forward even though it's something we
should do to get compliance and get
people who are really abusing the system
but it's not going
to solve the problem
really pull through the 24 budget or
clearly going into the 25 budget but but
it does on one end it's that's not going
to be a reoccurring hopefully if it
people are adhering to it it won't
reoccur what it will do is lessen the
burden and the cost of operating cost of
the city so so you get the savings on
that side but yeah to your point that
will be
reur okay that's
good I mean I I I think suff I mean in
terms of going FL out and then going 50%
for the on meter water and SE and going
100% out for the the sewer and water on
the commercial
side and at the same time we can look at
the garbage in from l50
50% I mean I I'm going to stick to
those say that again John you stick but what I what I suggested
there I think this is a big compromise
because if we were to add all of this up
here this is about like4
900,000 additional
Revenue
me if we were to add all of this up I'm
thinking it's going to go upwards of $8
to $900,000 uh yeah you don't have what
numbers what numbers you're talking
about the 100% for water commercial 50%
well that's remember that's separate
from yeah yeah I'm not I'm not I'm not
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even yeah so uh the 100% uh water and
the
50% water uh that will bring us to you
know we have to use uh the difference of
$198,400 for f balance to balance that I
believe that's how it works I going to
have to look at it
say but the water sore you know we'll
take a look at that but we got to figure
out the general fund now we're saying
114,000 for additional of the 50%
increase right yes 250 100
25 okay now we talk about raising the
other part of
it no I'm
not not on my side okay so then I don't
know what the other is so so we're going
to take that
114,000
and and uh reduce appropriate fund
balance if we add that revenue from
three an additional
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3.2 well not only reduce the fund
balance I think we have suggestion in
terms of of pushing
back police rce the f from 4 4.1 to 4
million if you get that additional
revenue from the
garbage can can we use that towards the the police over time and the
fire over
time split
it if there is not if there is no other
if there's no other um if there's no
other suggested um
on these vacancies then that's what I'm
suggesting I think you brought it up
last week to again I think we have to
look at it as a big picture because we have numbers all over the place here
so we'd have to see how it plugged in I
mean I think several of us want to make
sure that we're not cutting the police
and fire over time um so I mean so so
why don't we if you don't mind Mr farari
just address these the
water come right back
uh can I say one more think about the
garbage 39 50% you know that's gonna
that's going to increase your budget let
me just see where we are here let's see
52 to 52 to
61 so it's about 800,000 $800,000
increase that if we go with the mayor's
figure for the no no you go half with
the mayor's figure go with the mayor's
fig figures and you don't have to worry
about
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nothing I'm going go do water sore you
guys figure out the rest right yeah I
mean I I also still have major concern
if we take too much money out of the
reserve fund so that's another important
figure that we have to look
at we can we can continue discussion on the
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vacancies
how many positions there
are
e
yeah please Mr you just want to walk us
through the sewer first and then the
water
ches the proposed so what we're doing is
with the sore we meter charges inside
the city we're not doing any counil
changes we're going with the mayor's
proposal and then we're taking 50% of
the mayor's proposal reducing it by
873,000 at 8.8
million um and then we of course to
offset that we're going to be using
we're just a s we're using
873,000
$734
of fund balance to uh even the sore
F the
changes in the next
page got water next so you
guys with the um sewer fund there says
873,000
in appropriate fund balance the new
budget says
441 excuse
me should be 873 I see say new budget
873
734 yeah sorry John thank you very much
put that out for me the water is the
same
thingo the water is the same
thing
where counil
changes should
be
you have water we don't have water you
don't have it either I got it oh you're
the only one that doesn't have is P
Water I don't have that's down thank
you and we need the mayor needs water
also one
side all that you can see the thing
correct okay now all right somebody has
one water extra because we only have
sewer
left it's like
four John is on the water page yes yeah
the same so you just have to spr that
out put
19 yep yeah but the ultimate number is
correct though the math is correct this
oh the math is correct even with the new
number no no no it wasn't on the
SE
changeid your
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phone right he's doing it he's doing it
Miss ptoi just said he's doing it no I'm
doing water first
okay
was see who does it
first okay and this
work why
is 2 3 4 1
38
59 that's that's so this will be
8
8298
267 then this adds up to the same 2 3 41
380
plus 575
42
5758
482 and then 198 405
they came out a different number than I
just did 2 3 41 better go use your
spreadsheet
anth I should have just added it by hand
would have just been
easier actually think that's what I'm
going to
do
8298 5 six seven so that works
out
so so we're just looking at the bunch of
changes and the bunch of
changes and then I I put the actual
revenues over here show that it works
out 78
48
14
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15 15 16
24 124 38 487 yes yep they all they all
good what did you get for the um water
8298
567
267 me too 8298 267 excuse me 267 267
can't read my
own so
that again for
me so let's start with the water the sewer water meter sales
commercial we proposed budget was
2,341 380 we're proposing no changes now
because we're using the May's commercial
rate then the unmet sales which would be
the
homeowners uh the proposed was
596 5956 6 887 we're reducing that by
half of what the the mayor's uh proposal
was that comes to
19845 to bring the new budget to
57 5842 and then our appropriate fund
balance is
8,405 that we'll be using for the water
fund to make it make the pro budget
even and you can see
that P actual weon
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changes propos equals the proposed
budget the same with
the so let spend a second on the um the
fund balance that's basically 1.
1871 329 correct excuse me the fund
balance for what water or soil yeah both
together oh together yes so it's going
to be
873 and 200,000 so 1. 871 229 uh
329 so what would that leave us for fund
balance okay for
uh I have that figures in
for 800,000 we have 3
million 2.8 million for sore at
800,000 it's going to leave us with U
of un
assigned about the million million
5 2.3 million5 and the water fund we
have 2.3 million and 200,000 so it's
about 2 million 2.1
million I think I gave you guys all the
F balances last time here I I had
thought I had in my workbook but I think
I left in the
office all Pap this thing yeah yeah
there you go
can yeah thank you very much so uh for
the water fund like you said the UN side
is 2.2 million we going to take away
200,000 is going to be 2 million the
sore fund uh it's 3.1 million it take
800,000 uh is that 2.3 million so a few
years ago there were several big uh
sewer issues how much just I don't
remember the numbers what were those
expenses just off roughly
I mean uh well are you talking about the
project that we did the sore water no
like the there was that major break in
one the major break uh off of 890 over
there that was like 1.3 million which we
use the reserves F uh the most recently
was the the crack on Eastern Avenue that
was 500,000 anytime we have a break it's
a minimum of 250,000 if it go if it goes
below 10 ft if it we have to go 10 fet
or more where we're hit in the million
dollar
Mark so then we would have what did you
say about a million dollars left
correct two two two million and I'm
strictly talking the the sewer yeah two
2 million in water and about uh 2.3
million in s left wait because we got
3.1 minus 800,000 right
didn't you say 1 million before no you know when I gave you the water
sore funds I I also wrote you that you
know it's all the reason why we're
looking especially for the sore for the
increase was due to the the debt payment
for the right you know which over
million a year for the next 30 Years
right
that's the simple number is you know we
the simple number is we spent 50 some
million dollar doing all the
upgrades we had $21 million in Grants
now we owe $30
million it's approximately a million a
year most of that is zero interest so
it's a good overall financing package
but what you're coming back is now
you're going to say in the budget I
proposed which takes that into account
of maintaining our fund balance so when
we have events we're going to have cash
to be able to deal with it and you're
going to cut a million dollars out which
would be the annual payment on that debt
these numbers are big but the actual
cost of the resident is a small amount
to get a very high quality source of
water and a very high
quality uh Wastewater system that serves
the residents and also positions as
stability and economic growth going
forward I don't want to be negative here
but we I don't want to end up you know
my time here is is coming close and I
don't see the position of the city
happen what happened to Fint Michigan
where you're just going to have to take
water right out of the Mohawk or dump
right into the Mohawk because you're
going have to save money because you
can't can't afford the to run the prod
what you got to run well that's part of
consent order things that we're doing so
it's not like we're doing it as
Choice correct we need a
compliance of state federal
standards
so Anthony you just want to walk us the
general
fund I'm confused
with okay so uh really the only changes
that we made since last time was the the
commercial waste free we increased it by
$4,125 and and what we did is we add the
revenue 114,000 we reduced police
overtime by the
56,000 whatever it was from 350 to 29 to
937 and they fire to um by 292,000 so we took the 114,000 split it between the
police and fire over
timebody
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down I had thought
no no this
is this one here you have an extra
should be I
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made anybody has
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extra what are you looking for extra I
think they're looking for an extra of
this one yes you have it
nope all
right all right here you
can all right anybody
have
okay it's move it's 10 what time is it
um guys we're going to be upstairs
that will be up soon can we just for this
Oni so like you say the only increase
from the last time was
$4,125 that increasing the commercial uh
waste fee uh and we did that we split
that in half and uh whatever that what
is that 50
57,000 and we uh increased the police
over time and fire over time at 57,000
but I when I was going into the office
like I I told like I had thought we
talked about increasing waste by 50% I
wasn't
sure no I did not put that it was 50% on
Commercial the regular W too no because
if you did that that would that would
you know solve a lot of your
problems and
consistencies
I'm not sure if we can get
this 9
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minutes no try want to try to just pass
the M's
budget we do that again I would be in
favor of
that you're old this week you're old
this week
um Friday afternoon Friday afternoon is
everybody El um
complete this week John no I I'm
out
speak
you I'm G Friday I'm back Friday
afternoon go ahead please sorry so is
every I just want to ask if three people
were back on Saturday I know that sounds
like is everybody good on that Saturday
thank can ex work one make chair please
be to to do it with five of us six of
us
back morning suppose go ahead you have your hand up I just want to
know Miss the T said it had to be
afternoon soly afteron oh not morning oh
morning
yes on Saturday yes you could do morning
or early afterno
I can do I can do either can we can we
meet at at um
10 everybody yeah I can I just make it
work make it work check please check
your I just don't
know nor yeah I'm
sorry I can do it
any
oh 11 11 work better or early afternoon
I need to be up 11 this Saturday or
later go ahead please later
i00 all
right
118 18th right Saturday yeah is everybody good Saturday 11:
a.m. yes you good M good yeah can do it
all right so we'll recess the finance
committee to Saturday
November is it 18 18 18 at 11:
a.m. second second all in favor I thank
you yeah
all
right