1 00:00:21,840 --> 00:00:31,600 And welcome to the La Prairie City Council meeting. Today is Monday, November 20th. First order of business is the pledge of allegiance. 2 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:48,180 The United States of America, and to the Republic for which stands, one nation, under that individual with the liberty and justice for all. 3 00:00:52,790 --> 00:00:54,530 Good evening, everyone, 4 00:00:59,270 --> 00:01:02,190 here I read that 5 00:01:05,870 --> 00:01:12,910 first order of business the approval of the minutes from the November 6th Council meeting 6 00:01:14,910 --> 00:01:17,160 Those in favor, please say aye 7 00:01:20,650 --> 00:01:21,350 Then 8 00:01:24,550 --> 00:01:33,590 the consent agenda right I'm three a b and c including the finance report correspondents and then claims for the approval 9 00:01:34,250 --> 00:01:44,350 So that we had an addition to that for the consent agenda, does everybody have that? 10 00:02:04,850 --> 00:02:06,910 If I didn't want to run away? 11 00:02:07,870 --> 00:02:09,350 How are you just a wee bit? 12 00:02:09,590 --> 00:02:10,350 A wee bit. 13 00:02:20,980 --> 00:02:21,320 A wee bit. 14 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:22,700 I'll move to a couple. 15 00:02:24,140 --> 00:02:24,640 One more second. 16 00:02:25,940 --> 00:02:27,780 There was in favor, please say aye. 17 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:28,220 Aye. 18 00:02:28,800 --> 00:02:29,740 Those in post. 19 00:02:29,740 --> 00:02:38,140 consent agenda is approved. Thank you. Moving on to public forum, we have no public. 20 00:02:38,860 --> 00:02:41,200 Anybody have additions to the agenda, Lisa? 21 00:02:41,900 --> 00:02:44,540 Yes, I have two. One, 22 00:02:45,780 --> 00:02:57,380 Pre-carding the F-350 truck frame, possibly adding it to the sand blessing priming and painting 23 00:02:57,380 --> 00:03:00,660 quote that we already have. 24 00:03:00,980 --> 00:03:04,360 And then we can do that under six G-3. 25 00:03:04,680 --> 00:03:06,380 So these equipment, that's all right? 26 00:03:06,540 --> 00:03:07,240 Yes, ma'am. 27 00:03:07,780 --> 00:03:12,040 And then the other I have is the liquor license renewal for bottles and brews. 28 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:15,860 Okay. 29 00:03:16,640 --> 00:03:16,840 Okay. 30 00:03:19,740 --> 00:03:20,940 Consider it done. 31 00:03:25,690 --> 00:03:26,730 All right. 32 00:03:28,230 --> 00:03:31,030 Maintenance is not here. 33 00:03:32,130 --> 00:03:36,150 I guess the only question I have is we're waiting on the part for the ASV is that 34 00:03:36,150 --> 00:03:39,230 in and in wrong. 35 00:03:39,890 --> 00:03:41,270 We've got the same. 36 00:03:41,470 --> 00:03:45,010 A little more changeable in and wrong. 37 00:03:45,010 --> 00:03:47,030 ASB or... 38 00:03:47,030 --> 00:03:48,550 Yes, we are the gear. 39 00:03:49,190 --> 00:03:50,430 ASB. Oh, sorry. 40 00:03:50,910 --> 00:03:52,410 Yeah, that one is pinnain. 41 00:03:52,470 --> 00:03:54,470 Just wait and do what we want to bring in. 42 00:03:54,910 --> 00:03:55,530 Right. Okay. 43 00:03:56,410 --> 00:03:56,810 All right. 44 00:03:58,130 --> 00:04:01,490 Now would be the time since we're not really dealing with much snow. 45 00:04:04,950 --> 00:04:10,310 I would say that if, yeah, because it looks like I mean, fairly. 46 00:04:11,150 --> 00:04:14,290 Or depend upon when we get that truck back. 47 00:04:14,350 --> 00:04:14,750 Right. 48 00:04:14,750 --> 00:04:16,430 I have to be the only thing. 49 00:04:16,790 --> 00:04:18,030 It's going to be at least a week. 50 00:04:19,730 --> 00:04:20,110 Okay. 51 00:04:20,110 --> 00:04:21,030 So I can, I think, 52 00:04:21,130 --> 00:04:22,750 borrow whether we're going to do that. 53 00:04:23,550 --> 00:04:24,390 Sorry for not? 54 00:04:24,510 --> 00:04:24,970 Sure. 55 00:04:25,850 --> 00:04:26,290 I'm welcome. 56 00:04:26,770 --> 00:04:27,150 Okay. 57 00:04:29,290 --> 00:04:31,930 Uh, nothing from the attorney engineer. 58 00:04:33,030 --> 00:04:34,550 Nothing from law. 59 00:04:35,690 --> 00:04:35,870 Uh, Lisa. 60 00:04:36,590 --> 00:04:38,710 Let's do that, uh, safety group update. 61 00:04:38,870 --> 00:04:39,250 Yeah. 62 00:04:39,990 --> 00:04:41,670 Um, I had a meeting today. 63 00:04:41,670 --> 00:04:52,750 And we set up a regional safety group called Attastic Counties and we have six cities. 64 00:04:52,930 --> 00:04:53,830 Oh, we do. 65 00:04:53,830 --> 00:04:54,450 We do. 66 00:04:54,450 --> 00:04:56,390 Five was a minimum, right? 67 00:04:57,710 --> 00:04:58,370 They have a group. 68 00:04:59,450 --> 00:04:59,590 Okay. 69 00:05:00,290 --> 00:05:06,090 And then there are two other cities who are interested, possibly interested in joining us. 70 00:05:06,630 --> 00:05:10,130 If another city has added, which they didn't mention this part, 71 00:05:10,130 --> 00:05:14,050 If another city is at it, we need to have one more additional meeting. 72 00:05:16,330 --> 00:05:20,790 So anything over six, you have a seven city, you have seven meetings for you? 73 00:05:21,430 --> 00:05:23,550 It's eight meetings for you. 74 00:05:24,670 --> 00:05:29,830 And I asked how the cost and he would work out if we had eight and eight meetings. 75 00:05:30,190 --> 00:05:33,730 And he said it would be the same as if we had six and six meetings. 76 00:05:42,910 --> 00:05:47,430 That's consistent from three on up, the 1200, 77 00:05:49,790 --> 00:05:53,690 well that's reasonable as far as what we're getting out of that. 78 00:05:53,690 --> 00:06:00,490 definitely. They're working on a schedule. We should have it by the end of the year so that we can 79 00:06:00,490 --> 00:06:07,790 then schedule the transfer. Sure. And implement that from for a festival of 2024. Okay. Yeah, 80 00:06:07,790 --> 00:06:15,070 that's awesome. It's nice. So what is OSHA giving us the needs meetings for training? Yeah. 81 00:06:15,250 --> 00:06:20,850 Um, I don't know. I just don't even know. Yeah, I don't even know. But it's just. Yeah, it's just. 82 00:06:23,130 --> 00:06:23,670 Yeah, 83 00:06:23,670 --> 00:06:29,330 I don't know if I provided, I didn't provide a list of the services in the US already. 84 00:06:30,370 --> 00:06:35,990 And some of them, of course, are required and then some electives? 85 00:06:36,390 --> 00:06:37,730 There are some electives, yes. 86 00:06:37,950 --> 00:06:41,630 You mentioned like mock, OSHA inspections as well too. 87 00:06:41,870 --> 00:06:46,790 Those are other opportunities for options that we have also. 88 00:06:47,070 --> 00:06:52,350 I would say that that would probably be the number one priority, at least to start. 89 00:06:52,350 --> 00:07:02,270 anything else I related to make sure but if there are some electives that you know maybe it would be nice to at least have one 90 00:07:03,890 --> 00:07:07,190 person involved in that meeting 91 00:07:07,950 --> 00:07:10,550 all right so twenty twenty four 92 00:07:13,570 --> 00:07:18,510 have we well we'll get to that. Never like anything else 93 00:07:21,210 --> 00:07:23,590 Okay, okay, Council have anything? 94 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:26,880 There you go, okay. 95 00:07:27,160 --> 00:07:28,560 There are anything for committees. 96 00:07:32,750 --> 00:07:38,050 Like, a rinks ready to go for, for ice, 97 00:07:39,510 --> 00:07:42,410 tentatively looking at the weather coming up, 98 00:07:43,270 --> 00:07:46,790 behind shooting for right after Thanksgiving dinner, 99 00:07:47,310 --> 00:07:49,010 starting to stop some ice down that night, 100 00:07:49,430 --> 00:07:53,070 so hopefully the temperatures don't rebound too much. 101 00:07:53,070 --> 00:08:03,730 during the day, but 20s and lower at night should be good for a start, and the only one that will be doing it, just trying to pump up there. 102 00:08:05,190 --> 00:08:12,850 I don't, he had been talking about the fire department at one point in time, too, about possibly dividing that base coat. 103 00:08:12,970 --> 00:08:18,610 I don't know if that's the thing or not, but as of now, he's pining on flooding, so. 104 00:08:22,350 --> 00:08:33,190 The facility-wise, they got the Great Landed, and I think Brian's got it to have full already, so that's raised utilize that. 105 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:38,320 All righty. 106 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,500 Mike, what were you saying about the Gator, something of the park there? 107 00:08:44,100 --> 00:08:48,400 Well, we had both the sweeper, unit that we bought and the blower. 108 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:59,600 They both use the same undercarriage connection, the order the strong one, or the crush that came in, 109 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:05,340 but the correct one is coming with the other unit when that gets here with the blower. 110 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:14,420 And we don't want to do them because they're like $700 per night assembly, so we're just going to have to open that and hopefully that one's early too. 111 00:09:14,420 --> 00:09:17,900 Anything else on the 12th or something, I heard that? 112 00:09:18,020 --> 00:09:20,860 This was a lower question, sorry, and so on, okay. 113 00:09:21,740 --> 00:09:22,480 Thank you. 114 00:09:23,940 --> 00:09:29,140 All right, and in addition to facilities equipment is that 115 00:09:29,140 --> 00:09:34,800 a denim that Lisa handed out six G-3. 116 00:09:37,330 --> 00:09:41,190 The truck has been delivered to pro-blast to have the truck 117 00:09:41,190 --> 00:09:43,890 that and wheels sandblasted, primed and painted. 118 00:09:44,450 --> 00:09:50,890 And there was a suggestion made to have the frame done while the other work was being done. 119 00:09:52,770 --> 00:09:58,130 So that, essentially, is that the same material as first like a bed liner material? 120 00:09:59,590 --> 00:10:02,170 Or are we just talking primed and painted? 121 00:10:02,350 --> 00:10:03,970 I believe in primed painting. 122 00:10:04,350 --> 00:10:04,710 Okay. 123 00:10:07,630 --> 00:10:09,570 I think any of this is bed liner. 124 00:10:12,580 --> 00:10:12,800 Okay. 125 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:25,940 Yeah, nothing here on the truck bed, but I would say that if we have some issues with that frame that 126 00:10:29,100 --> 00:10:33,680 we should actually get that done, I think going to get any better. 127 00:10:33,680 --> 00:10:38,440 That would be my recommendation, it's the box is off. 128 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,340 About 100 bucks. 129 00:10:40,620 --> 00:10:40,780 Yeah. 130 00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:42,700 That's a better video than that. 131 00:10:43,380 --> 00:10:45,800 They would charge us that just to remove the box again. 132 00:10:46,660 --> 00:10:46,680 Yeah. 133 00:10:47,560 --> 00:10:50,000 Well, why don't we, 134 00:10:50,620 --> 00:10:51,200 We need a motion. 135 00:10:51,420 --> 00:10:53,340 Yeah, we do want to make motion. 136 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:55,000 Well, second. 137 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:56,340 All right. 138 00:10:56,520 --> 00:10:58,100 Those in favor, please say aye. 139 00:10:58,100 --> 00:10:58,340 Aye. 140 00:10:58,980 --> 00:11:00,020 Those opposed. 141 00:11:01,300 --> 00:11:02,380 Motion is approved. 142 00:11:02,380 --> 00:11:09,380 to have the frame on the F350 done as well for a sandblasting priming and painting. 143 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,300 Money will spend. 144 00:11:11,600 --> 00:11:13,140 It certainly is. 145 00:11:13,940 --> 00:11:14,180 Wonderful. 146 00:11:14,420 --> 00:11:15,140 Thank you, Lisa. 147 00:11:17,860 --> 00:11:24,280 I think that does conclude section six, seven. 148 00:11:25,200 --> 00:11:27,540 We'll business the engineering services proposal. 149 00:11:28,340 --> 00:11:29,640 That's from November 6. 150 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:39,400 We want to go over there. 151 00:11:48,850 --> 00:11:49,010 Okay. 152 00:11:49,010 --> 00:12:05,740 all right well yeah I haven't have you okay so I'm the odd man out again 153 00:12:10,190 --> 00:12:16,270 what are your feelings on the proposal as I didn't get to least the 154 00:12:16,270 --> 00:12:27,530 Today when I didn't know whether or not I would make it just stay with that CH. Yeah, that's my vibe. I guess I kind of felt that all along truth be told 155 00:12:28,470 --> 00:12:31,030 But you know just we have a good familiarity 156 00:12:32,570 --> 00:12:39,430 With Jason. I've always found it to be helpful and his group on the back end. I'm about you guys 157 00:12:42,390 --> 00:12:46,750 We had one of them that was what 50 bucks less an hour. Yes 158 00:12:48,830 --> 00:12:57,630 I mean, I guess looking at cost-wise, what would that save us going to, you know, new forum? 159 00:12:57,850 --> 00:13:03,830 I know you're bringing in new people and, you know, starting from scratch, type thing, but... 160 00:13:04,670 --> 00:13:11,410 Well, sometimes that when you are starting from scratch, it can end up costing more, as far as 161 00:13:11,410 --> 00:13:20,470 coming familiar with. Initially, yes. The other thing too is that there are those occasions 162 00:13:21,210 --> 00:13:28,810 where, you know, this is a bit situation. And sometimes, bids get, you know, dropped in order 163 00:13:28,810 --> 00:13:36,190 to secure business and then such a point bids become more reasonable. I don't know. 164 00:13:38,740 --> 00:13:39,180 I guess 165 00:13:39,180 --> 00:13:42,520 that's just my humble opinion that, you know, 166 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,900 beds are one thing, rail is another. 167 00:13:48,180 --> 00:13:50,020 And forget it, you know, 168 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:54,660 I would be in agreement that I think what you're, 169 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,440 what I've ever looked like, 170 00:13:57,560 --> 00:13:59,640 maybe a cost sentence may and reality 171 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:04,420 turn out not to be, because here we have, 172 00:14:04,680 --> 00:14:07,280 might again, my opinion, the name broke, don't fix it. 173 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:14,640 We've got the establishment relationship. Everybody knows what's going on with everything and anything pops up 174 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:16,540 It's not a crisis situation 175 00:14:17,600 --> 00:14:22,060 Get somebody new in and all of a sudden that $50 dollars an hour could 176 00:14:22,700 --> 00:14:29,420 You know could have been money wall spent by staying with what we currently have and and again. That's just my opinion 177 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:32,580 Put your phones 178 00:14:33,560 --> 00:14:36,900 We're looking at it a little bit wrong. 179 00:14:38,100 --> 00:14:44,340 Our cost per hour really isn't going to be a mitigating factor, 180 00:14:45,140 --> 00:14:47,300 especially for the next year. 181 00:14:49,620 --> 00:14:53,200 I mean, in all likelihood, we have no major projects coming up next year, right? 182 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:58,020 So we're looking at sub $10,000 line item on our thing. 183 00:14:58,240 --> 00:14:59,160 As far as continuity. 184 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:07,000 I agree with what you guys are saying as you each has been our step fast. 185 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:10,440 Yeah, they've been left for a long, long time, I guess. 186 00:15:12,850 --> 00:15:15,730 But two things that I'm kind of looking at here 187 00:15:17,190 --> 00:15:28,590 is local, right, that's where this bolt in and make their internal. So I have another internal option, I'm big on doing business local. 188 00:15:30,670 --> 00:15:47,030 But I guess the big thing and what we've been running into a lot these past couple of years is funding grants support that financial aspect of these projects that we don't have the experience on. 189 00:15:47,030 --> 00:15:50,770 rely on our partners in order to provide, 190 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:58,380 I guess I would challenge console to take a re-look 191 00:15:58,380 --> 00:16:05,440 at, you know, these outfits with that aspect in mind and not so much what are we paying, 192 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:15,640 but what can they possibly brain services, tables, as far as helping us, where's the nicer pants 193 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,040 and we can afford otherwise, if that makes sense. 194 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:24,880 We don't need to make this decision until the urbanization meeting, but if we wanted to bring 195 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:32,840 somebody in to, I guess, give us a further review of their services, I guess, and they would 196 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:41,140 all probably jump at that shop, so again, I lean like you guys do towards that solution, continuity, 197 00:16:42,660 --> 00:16:49,120 But, like I said, I think we got to look at that bigger picture too, so I was just 198 00:16:49,120 --> 00:16:54,720 what we're paying, but what they can bring in financially, and there's, I was, there's 199 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,640 some high openers in there, so. 200 00:16:57,960 --> 00:16:59,740 Well, certainly, SEH doesn't provide, 201 00:17:03,660 --> 00:17:06,440 and I think last time we did take a look at that organization, 202 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:12,160 And they didn't have a local office here, right? 203 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:17,260 So certainly, there's going to be a few, but yeah. 204 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:23,540 I mean, we're certainly not married to TSEH. 205 00:17:24,620 --> 00:17:31,220 And if you guys feel that way, what have you and I, take a second 206 00:17:31,220 --> 00:17:32,080 harder note. 207 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:38,580 I think it's the excellent idea, maybe add them all, give us the presentation. 208 00:17:39,540 --> 00:17:41,260 It would be nice to have for a refresher. 209 00:17:41,940 --> 00:17:45,880 Because you're going to read the perspective of the long side, the same thing. 210 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,140 It's that in the person. 211 00:17:47,460 --> 00:17:51,500 It's going to be responsible to come in and say, oh, I don't know if it's Jason or I think 212 00:17:51,500 --> 00:17:52,920 of potential counterpart or whatever. 213 00:17:53,640 --> 00:17:54,500 Here's what we'll offer. 214 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:55,800 Here's what we're going to do to the table. 215 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:57,220 Excellent idea, Mike. 216 00:17:57,880 --> 00:17:58,180 Yeah. 217 00:17:58,180 --> 00:18:13,300 At least a top three, we need to look at everybody, but maybe put an emphasis on what they've done and what kind of grant money they've brought in for specifics. 218 00:18:14,180 --> 00:18:27,380 Well, if actually, you know what that's a great idea. Maybe what we could do is when we asked them to come in is weighted to the what they provide that SEH does affect. 219 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:31,380 So that way we've got it, but yeah, that's a great idea. 220 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:35,260 I'm a comparison and I guess I'd realize that we only need to bring two in. 221 00:18:35,380 --> 00:18:40,840 I mean, we need to work with what we have with SEH, so it's two other options. 222 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:45,320 Maybe that, so if council wants to maybe just drop a note to me, 223 00:18:45,360 --> 00:18:48,040 so I guess on your top two alternatives. 224 00:18:49,480 --> 00:18:50,620 That's your discretion. 225 00:18:51,940 --> 00:18:52,880 All right, we'll do. 226 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:55,340 Yeah, that's a great idea. 227 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,080 So be it. 228 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:25,500 Okay, so we got that. And then item eight, we did add, assist the removal application for the liquor license for bottles and brews. So I think we need a motion. 229 00:19:25,500 --> 00:19:30,860 I'll move. I'll side down. Those are driver. I think those are posed. 230 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:37,560 Right models and grooves has been approved again for a life in 231 00:19:44,500 --> 00:19:45,550 Tony's not here. 232 00:19:47,930 --> 00:19:51,310 Who wants to take the mantle for item nine? 233 00:19:52,770 --> 00:19:55,380 I hear the surrogate. I can't do it. 234 00:19:56,370 --> 00:19:59,130 Yeah, but he's a member in our heart 235 00:20:04,550 --> 00:20:07,750 adjourned at 6.19 p.m. 236 00:20:08,730 --> 00:20:09,010 No second. 237 00:20:09,870 --> 00:20:11,510 Those in favor please say aye. 238 00:20:11,570 --> 00:20:11,850 Aye. 239 00:20:12,210 --> 00:20:13,050 Those opposed. 240 00:20:14,370 --> 00:20:14,830 All right. 241 00:20:15,230 --> 00:20:16,770 Ocean is approved. 242 00:20:17,070 --> 00:20:19,070 We are officially adjourned. 243 00:20:19,190 --> 00:20:20,090 Thank you very much.