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meeting for Tuesday January 16th 2024

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the first item on the agenda is a

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presentation i' like to turn over to

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Mayor McCarthy Madam president uh thank

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you uh being here there been a lot of

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interest in Mohawk Harbor of uh Focus

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was put on the uh potential of an

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aquatic center there which didn't quite

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work out to the team has still been

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exploring options and looking at uh

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scenarios that will add value not only

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to that site but the community as a

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whole and with that I'll turn it over to

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David buo the CEO of gesi to start with

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their

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presentation thank you

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Mr come up here

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surec president thank you you're welcome

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if you use microphone then the people

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out there can hear you terrific you're

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welcome no you don't worry about it they

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can hear they can hear I can't even hear

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me those of you who don't know me

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members of the city council I'm David

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buo president CEO of the gesi group uh

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been doing this now for 42 years before

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most of you were born uh what I've got today I want to

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introduce members of our team here that

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uh can answer questions uh first and

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foremost uh uh David Harris president of

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Union College uh joela dice general

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manager of the Rivers Casino Resort my

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team my Chief Operating Officer David

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all and the general counsel and vice

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president Thomas Owens uh we appreciate

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you putting this on the agenda today and

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we'll try and keep it as brief or as

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long as you want it uh with the

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inclement weather uh but we have here is

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a proposed project uh as you as you well

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know we've developed uh well there go of

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building MVP Building Center City 797

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Broadway and then attacked M haror uh

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and invested a lot of time and effort in

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there we still have some vacant land and

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we went through evaluating what we

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wanted to do with it whether it was

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whether it was Bard Office Buildings uh

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and uh then we talked to the Aquatic

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Center about possibly coming out there

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and bringing that from ex 12 where they are going to be in Clifton or

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Saratoga County uh and uh we evaluated

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that and looked on the impact on our

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site uh uh we worked with them to pursue

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another alternative at the viaport and

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we're playing around with what ideas we

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could do for this site we decided we

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wanted to do something more Community

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oriented than profit oriented believe it

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or not for business to say that it's

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unusual uh but from that standpoint uh

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what I'd like to do is walk you through

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the project I'm going to have Ray Gillan

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come up and do a little bit before and

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after and then we can uh answer any

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has thank you thank you council

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president new members returning members

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welcome uh thank you for having us

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tonight go through a couple of quick

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slides some of you w don't may not

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remember what the outo site looked like

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before sat vacant for about 50 years

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something the mayor talks about a lot

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didn't pay any taxes cuz it was in tax

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foreclosure there were about 50 jobs

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there at one

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company and many many people um

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including some past city leaders who

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have been in this room

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recently uh prior to 2004 said you could

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never do anything with this site and and

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publicly scoffed at it at me personally

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at at the teen when we brought forward a

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proposal to redevelop the outgo site and

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uh so we glory in the success of this

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project because there were so many

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doubters and so many people who said you

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can't do anything there and our motto

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was you can and we proved them uh we

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proved that you could do it in fact the

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Grand Vision for the site prior to 2004

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is really scary uh they were looking at

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storing medical waste there they were

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looking at storing construction debris

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there and they had signed a lease with a

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tire recycling company and their plan

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was to make this the biggest tire

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recycling facility in the United States

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and I had to threaten to condemn that

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lease with the powers we have in

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Metroplex to stop that project that was

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a reality imagine 60 Acres of

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Waterfront turning out with the fumes

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with the dust with the pollution with

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the

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problems uh tire recycling and compared

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to what we have and what was really

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Troublesome is there was no respect for

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the alcohol Legacy the the fact that

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this facility built

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90,000 locomotives that this facility

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played a key role in winning World War

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II in one month during World War II in

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one 30-day period they built 100 tanks

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and 200 locomotives they played a

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critical role in the war effort and

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these Visions for this site prior to

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2004 that were discussed right in this

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room a all about medical waste

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construction debris treating the site as

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a junkyard not as a sacred ground

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that we know uh when it was the outgo

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facility we've had huge success here

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everybody knows the story we really help

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SKC have a waterfront reconnect our city

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to the Waterfront to our beautiful

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Waterfront uh we put up and we worked

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with the council president the

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Porterfield uh when it came to naming

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the streets we remember that we decided

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we've got to memorialize this aloh

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Heritage here we did a I think a

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beautiful job of putting the trail

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system in place and putting the signs

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along the trails uh that Mark the

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various highlights of the ALCO history

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of course we developed the leadership of

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the glassi group Casino it's been hugely

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successful two hotels 100,000 square ft

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of Technology office space the new

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Regional headquarters to the SI group

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just opened Apartments Town Homes

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restaurants retail Marina everybody goes

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there summertime to to watch the

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concerts and we have a new dock that

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we're working closely with Chris Wallen

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and the city on um right on the

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riverfront so we can pull big touring

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boats in and have them Dock and come in

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and visit

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SKC our former mayor Stratton who was a

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huge supporter of this project today

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loves to tell people that the largest

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and most successful Waterfront

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development along the Erie Canal is it's

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connected to new

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york, 1500 jobs on site and growing

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Casino pays $4 million a year in

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property tax it's the only Casino of the

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four licensed casinos in New York state

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that did not get a pilot and uh the

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property pays full taxes in addition the

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city and the county each get a share of

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the casino slots Revenue that amounted

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to $2.6 Million last year that's an

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addition to the property tax and of

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course the city benefits from sales tax

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the community benefits from occupancy

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tax

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tourism spending has increased

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dramatically in scany county and there's

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been a tremendous amount of development

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around the harbor frankly we would have

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not gotten the new train station if it

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wasn't for M Harbor and the

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casino this project we feel is it you

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know really epitomizes smart growth and

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one of the things that um Chris Wallen

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will remember the mayor is that

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everything was done when you build these

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projects there's more infrastructure

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work there's more Underground stuff than

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there is stuff above ground it's really

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the the base of the project is built

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first excuse me and uh we put in all new

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working with Paul Leon the city engineer

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all new water and sewer infrastructure

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was put in place at the developer's

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expense prior to the the the the project

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getting built and that coupled with what

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you've all done to improve the sewer

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system that $50 million sewer line which

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is one of the greatest achievements in

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infrastructure that I've seen in my

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career and I've been doing this a long

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time is the reason why the water quality

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has improved so much and we have hardly

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any outflows at all into the river this

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used to happen every day in skank there

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would be all kinds of municipal waste

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going right into the river well it

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doesn't happen anymore it wasn't an

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accident it was planned it was planned

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smart growth it was a joint effort with

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uh the city the gesi group Metroplex and

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what we have here today on site is the

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number one Regional tourism attraction

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in the Capital District according to the

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Aly Business Review is M haror we have

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almost 2 million people a year visits

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connected um to come to Mo Harbor and to

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the casino and to the other attractions

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on the site so it's been a really fun

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and exciting project a lot of hard work

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by a lot of people in this room and

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we're very grateful to their assistance

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but it's been a big big success want to

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give it back to Dave at this point to

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talk about how we put the team together

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to make it

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successful thank you right yeah this

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project uh and and like many others

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actually started in this room but you

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had every agency involved that I've ever

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been involved with you had esdc do the

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Secretary of State's office uh you had

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uh the county you had the the health

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department you had dec of course were

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the Brownfield credits I I think we we

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dotted every ey and crossed every te

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with every agency going but it showed

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how much if everybody worked together

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you can really create such an

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environment that that a project does is

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successful uh actually I was very proud

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that the governor highlighted this in

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her State the state this year and said

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MOA carber is the epitome and the poster

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child for uh justifying Economic

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Development by the state so that's

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pretty impressive she's she brags about

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connected when she talks about success

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which is which is terrific um one of the

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things we we we came up with was looking

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at this thing and saying you know by the

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way our gesi projects and the casino

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project we pay taxes of over $20 million

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a year in city and county and school so

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that's a big number so just we we do our

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fair share uh but the fact is that we

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wanted to come up with something that we

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felt was a little bit different that

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could impa benefit the

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community and benefit uh uh other

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stakeholders uh when we looked at the

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Aquatic Center we said what do we need

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to drink bring more people to SKC and

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they did a really nice job in terms of

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convincing me that this would bring a

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lot of people but when we looked at it

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and what some of their needs were these

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were bringing a lot of kids and swimming

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and all that stuff it was more

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beneficial to be a theia port and then

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we started talking to U Dr Harris at

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Union College about the needs of Union

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College that had a very upy gentle

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obsolete rink is that the right way to

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say it I was around in 1977 I believe it

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was when Achilles rink was built so it

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is it is a dinosaur so they they were

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looking for for a place to uh have their

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home games uh the stiming by space on

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campus uh we looked at it there was a

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need to Albany County rink is going to

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be closing probably sometime soon with

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the expansion of the airport so he said

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let's come up with a project that could

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benefit uh can bring in trade shows

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bring in uh the ability to uh to house

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Union College men's and women's to

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complement what's already out there most

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of these projects are done in all

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honesty by municipalities I don't know

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any of them that are not done by

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municipalities if you go right across

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the board Glenn Falls Albany County

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udica Rochester Syracuse they're all

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being run by municipalities and owned by

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municipalities this is kind of unique uh

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we sort of took a step back and said how

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do we we get this done by the private

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sector it's not easy to do these things

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don't make money they cost money but we

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don't want to put the burden on any of

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the municipalities to do it so we

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decided to uh uh lay out a plan that

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maximizes uh the use gives a lot of

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flexibility creates a a facility that

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could host D1 hockey men's and women's

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and be proud for the community we can go

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after other sports we've talked to

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people with hockey basketball soccer uh

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trade shows I I think we can compete

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with and some of the other casinos in

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the state particularly Turning Stone

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they've increased their Event Center and

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I go down there and I see all these

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trade shows and conventions that are

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going to Verona which I'm originally

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from R out in that area but we should

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have them here in the capital region

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have them this connected those are going

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to have such a huge impact uh for our

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restaurants for our hotels for our

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businesses and having people put us on

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the map here uh again when Union playing

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here you've got uh teams coming coming

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in from all over the

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Northeast coming here seeing this a

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brand new facility here and the rest of

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the development in moak Harbor is just

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one that's going to turn people's heads

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and make people really be aware of

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what's going on it's connected in New

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York uh this is a the hodge podge of

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financing we've got a commitment from uh

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Carl Hasty and and U um Kathy hokel uh

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we've got uh some commitments from uh

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Metroplex Angelo s barbar has been

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supportive of it uh from our standpoint

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this is this is not an easy thing to

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finance we've got to do pilings this is

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a an expensive project so we're looking

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for uh uh the community to step up SKC

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has not put any money into M Harbor a

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lot of support from the Departments Etc

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so from that standpoint we would look to

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just reposition the money that was

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allocated uh from the arpa for uh the

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Aquatic Center to can keep it at Mok

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Harbor because I think this will be

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really it the payback and the return on

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investment we feel will be dramatic for

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the city and if you really look at it

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the dollars are even less than one years

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of the one year of the casino tax

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alone next thankk

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you I talk no that's okay uh I'm going

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to wrap it up here because we know you

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have a busy meeting

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ahead this new attraction We Believe

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will continue to boost tourism spending

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in sked sked County

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it'll keep SKC in the Forefront we want

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to keep that number one ranking as far

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as a

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visitorship and uh tourism we want to

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stay in first place in Capital Region

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and compete with communities all over on

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New York State and the Northeast go to

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uica they just built a major new sports

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complex downtown major basketball other

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activities there over the holidays teams

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from this area going out to UA we want

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to attract that kind of event here as

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Dave mentioned the facility can be used

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for hockey basketball soccer lacrosse

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special events trade shows uh all kinds

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of um uses so that's one of the the

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benefits of this the more activity there

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is at the harbor the more Revenue comes

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into the city it's as simple as that you

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have to spend a little money to make a

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little money but it's certainly proven

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the case that more activity more

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visitors more spending get more revenue

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for the city so our request tonight

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respectfully is that we'd asked the

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council and the mayor uh to look at

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keeping the arpa funding that was

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allocated for m caror at M caror it's as

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simple as that the money will be used in

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total for infrastructure doesn't go into

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the building itself it's going to be

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used for infrastructure to handle the

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growth that is needed water sewer roads

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uh all of the underground work that has

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to be done the

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foundations um all of the work that has

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to be done to put this new building in

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place the new building is being paid for

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in large vast majority of the funding is

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coming from the gassi group Dave

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mentioned we do have some State support

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we thank the governor speaker Hasty and

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assembly Angela s barara for their help

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but what we really need is a commitment

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by the city so that we can sign that

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agreement with President Harris and uh

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move forward

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all the approvals are in place we we had

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a very thorough we went through the

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secret process we've been through the

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planning uh zoning board of appeals we

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went through your whole process here it

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was a very good process it was very

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positive and there were a lot of good

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detailed discussions so the project is

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shovel ready as we say in our business

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all the approvals are in place um we

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just need this last couple

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commitments think about it as building

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for the future it's it's an investment

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by the city in the future of the city

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it's infrastructure we need this to stay

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competitive with other entertainment

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venues other sports complexes that are

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being developed by uh other cities in

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the Northeast and the New York State and

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if you think about it the 2.5 million is

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less than one years's worth of your

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share of the casino revenue we're asking

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you to commit less than one year see

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it's a one onee

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commitment uh with this federal dollars

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that you have invest in this and it'll

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pay dividends for years to come happen

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to answer any questions I think just a

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couple of tidbits to by the way um Dr

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Harris is here Union College is making

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if the project happens a substantial

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Financial commitment and a long-term

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commitment for 25 years uh in putting

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substantial dollars into the project uh

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the casino has donated the land this is just a a mix and match of trying

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to create something that usually the

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state will write a check for $1.1

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billion for Buffalo Bills maybe but uh from that standpoint this is on a lot

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smaller scale but it's one that if we if

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we put it all together I think there's there's a great probability that

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this will work and we can be shovel

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ready and put shovels in the ground soon

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so we've got d Ray myself Dr Harris Joe

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any any questions from anybody on the

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floor the toal cost of the project $50

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million and R mentioned that the other

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or maybe we I'm sorry mentioned that the

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other Arenas Etc are owned by

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municipalities and who will own this one

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uh a subsidiary of the gesi group I

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really don't want

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to okay it was one of those where I said

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who wants to own it the city the county

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the union Metroplex everybody took a

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step back I was the only one that didn't

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move I think this is a really important

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point that the council president's

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raised she usually does is all the

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operational risk profit and loss

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expenses booking that usually falls on

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the communities as it does in Aly at the

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MVP Arena well falls on Aly County we

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did not have the county here or anyone

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else really willing to step up and take

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that profit and loss responsibility so

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the bless group stepped up and did it so

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we're looking for a one-time Capital

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infusion versus an

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ongoing contribution to the operations

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of the center so that's a real good

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question you asked it do you have an

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idea of the um tax revenue will

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generate we haven't done a complete like

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economic impact statement because we're

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trying to make sure that um we have um a

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consensus commitment from some of the

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funding sources including the city Dave

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mentioned the city to date has not put

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any contribution into the success of M

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Harbor so this is the first time we're

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asking for that and um but it we believe

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it'll be a very uh

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expansive um impact as far as visitors

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increasing traffic at the casino

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increasing traffic at the hotels there

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were a couple announcements behind this

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that are pending about future

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Investments That U May spin off from

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this Arena moving forward so we capture

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all of that and put it into an economic

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model but we have not completed that at

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this point how many Jabs do you think

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this will provide for

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[Music]

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you it's kind of an interesting one it's

531
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a very good question uh Joe I mean on a permanent basis you're probably

532
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talking 15 to 20 jobs but if if you take

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a look at like the MVP Center then

534
00:35:40,599 --> 00:35:43,160
downsizing it for instance they have 500

535
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:47,680
jobs that come in depending on what what Advent you're having but it's it's

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00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:49,760
going to be a lot of uh ups and downs

537
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:51,040
along those lines but to run the

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00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,079
facility it's not this is this is not a

539
00:35:53,079 --> 00:35:55,240
job Creator this this is designed to

540
00:35:55,240 --> 00:35:57,760
bring people in whether it's increasing

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00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,119
the revenue uh for the city for

542
00:36:00,119 --> 00:36:06,319
occupancy taxes for sales taxes for uh I I would Envision the casino revenue

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00:36:06,319 --> 00:36:08,079
hopefully going up we got a little

544
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challenge New York City's going to have

545
00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:11,680
casinos we've got to compete with those

546
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,520
type of things too and we we've got some

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00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,640
uh other areas um the the Indians for

548
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,640
instance in Verona are keep expanding

549
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,280
and and trying to cut into our business

550
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:23,880
which impacts the city and the county

551
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:26,000
and ourselves but th those are the

552
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,359
reasons for it honesty I I Envision us

553
00:36:28,359 --> 00:36:30,319
going after some of the State High

554
00:36:30,319 --> 00:36:32,599
School championships and various Sports

555
00:36:32,599 --> 00:36:36,480
to really bring people there and this really will will create a game

556
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,440
changer because it's a it's a right siiz

557
00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:40,400
venue uh we're not competing with the

558
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:43,800
MVP Arena that's that's big that's

559
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,800
13,000 so that'll help gener jobs the

560
00:36:46,800 --> 00:36:50,319
restaurants areas around oh absolutely

561
00:36:50,319 --> 00:36:52,119
but again there's 1500 jobs now at the

562
00:36:52,119 --> 00:36:54,359
harbor good paying jobs and we're 50

563
00:36:54,359 --> 00:36:55,839
before and we think this going to

564
00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:57,480
continue to grow and it helps retain

565
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,349
jobs as

566
00:37:00,359 --> 00:37:02,880
well so thank you for that presentation

567
00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:05,000
uh two questions first of which is you

568
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,280
briefly were talking about the

569
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:08,440
construction timeline um is there any

570
00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:10,119
definite of when you would break ground

571
00:37:10,119 --> 00:37:12,800
and part partly the question is uh for

572
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,319
the the Union College is there any

573
00:37:14,319 --> 00:37:16,880
anticipations of next hockey season or

574
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,359
when is the expectation to

575
00:37:18,359 --> 00:37:21,440
be well that's a good question but

576
00:37:21,440 --> 00:37:23,040
there's no way I can build it for next

577
00:37:23,040 --> 00:37:29,150
hockey season uh uh on

578
00:37:29,160 --> 00:37:33,640
uh um but but it's to

579
00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,040
answer so my joke Contin to we can do it

580
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,119
next season if we switch to roller

581
00:37:38,119 --> 00:37:41,040
hockey I think you can get roller hockey

582
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,480
in time um but I think you're ready to

583
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:45,880
we're ready to engage the his project

584
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:51,960
but ready to go said shovel ready the goal would be for un unions

585
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,640
2025 inaugural season which I think

586
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:56,920
would be perfect TimeWise if we if we

587
00:37:56,920 --> 00:37:59,240
put shovel in the ground over the next

588
00:37:59,240 --> 00:38:01,599
30 to 60 days which is what we'd like to

589
00:38:01,599 --> 00:38:04,839
do uh councilman we'd we'd love to uh

590
00:38:04,839 --> 00:38:07,160
left to just literally have a

591
00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,800
groundbreaking and get everybody

592
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,760
involved in the thing and all the all

593
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:14,760
the stakeholders and uh fortunately

594
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,480
we've had a mild winter so far and we've

595
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:17,920
be able to do some planning and doing

596
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,560
some things there we've actually uh sunk

597
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,079
a lot of time and effort into it it's

598
00:38:22,079 --> 00:38:23,920
not a done deal yet because of we're

599
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:25,440
putting the funding together but if we

600
00:38:25,440 --> 00:38:27,200
can do this I'm excited about and

601
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,600
starting as quickly as

602
00:38:28,600 --> 00:38:29,920
[Music]

603
00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:31,839
possible just kind add to that just

604
00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:33,040
quickly the other thing to think about

605
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,119
with the Union piece we between men's

606
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:36,359
and women we have two division one

607
00:38:36,359 --> 00:38:38,760
programs we have about 30 home games a

608
00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,599
year I love hockey I love Union hockey

609
00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:43,800
but it's not the greatest Fan Experience

610
00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,880
instead of Park in terms of parking

611
00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:48,040
right but if we have an opportunity for

612
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:49,960
people to come down to Mohawk Harbor

613
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,599
attend the game easily access then

614
00:38:52,599 --> 00:38:54,480
there're at restaurants and other venues

615
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:56,720
there and around town so we want them to

616
00:38:56,720 --> 00:38:58,000
stay here and spend their dollars

617
00:38:58,000 --> 00:39:00,000
disconnect not get in the car and go off

618
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,640
to Clifton Park or back home or wherever

619
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,240
so I think there to the question about

620
00:39:03,240 --> 00:39:05,040
jobs and so forth just from the union

621
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:06,680
hockey partners and everything else I

622
00:39:06,680 --> 00:39:09,000
think there are definitely positive

623
00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:10,800
externalities and the people around

624
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,319
Union will be happy when they don't have

625
00:39:12,319 --> 00:39:14,359
to deal with the parking

626
00:39:14,359 --> 00:39:16,920
there question second question was the

627
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:21,160
building is going to be built with the highest expectations in mind

628
00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:23,520
Renovations and continuing to make this

629
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:26,640
be a beautification in the city uh you

630
00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:29,079
speak to just where that uh funding will

631
00:39:29,079 --> 00:39:31,359
be expected to come from it's coming

632
00:39:31,359 --> 00:39:32,319
from

633
00:39:32,319 --> 00:39:36,000
us there's it's a very unique structure

634
00:39:36,000 --> 00:39:40,280
and one that uh uh we're gambling that

635
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:42,440
the the rest of the impact and the

636
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,040
accretion to the rest of the property

637
00:39:44,040 --> 00:39:46,440
will provide us the ability to fund

638
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:48,160
those operations but it's only on us

639
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:50,520
there is no responsibility for Union

640
00:39:50,520 --> 00:39:51,920
pays their proportionate share of

641
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,760
expenses so they're they're they're part

642
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:56,240
of the funding operation as well uh but

643
00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,280
the fact is there's no City County

644
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,560
Metroplex continuing obligation good

645
00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:04,079
question so I just uh thank you for the

646
00:40:04,079 --> 00:40:06,880
presentation very informative um I I

647
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,720
guess something I kind of want to talk

648
00:40:08,720 --> 00:40:11,920
about was what I liked about the Aquatic

649
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,880
Center was the the social impact and and

650
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,760
having opportunity for young people um

651
00:40:17,760 --> 00:40:19,040
especially young people from

652
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:20,920
marginalized communities to you know

653
00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:24,160
there were some um uh I guess I would

654
00:40:24,160 --> 00:40:27,880
say uh uh preliminary commitments if you

655
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:30,440
will around like making sure that um

656
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,440
people from margin Comm communities get

657
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,200
the access that space and young people

658
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:35,560
you know learn how to swim and things

659
00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:37,920
like that as I'm hearing that this is a

660
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:40,359
multi-use space you know it seemed like

661
00:40:40,359 --> 00:40:45,040
there would be even more opportunity for uh you know maybe some Youth Sports

662
00:40:45,040 --> 00:40:47,640
and um maybe even some you know business

663
00:40:47,640 --> 00:40:49,760
internships and things like that um I

664
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:51,400
just will just kind of get you have you

665
00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:53,160
know what's your willingness or really

666
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:54,720
flexibility to make sure that there's

667
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:56,400
kind of you know a clear community

668
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,760
benefit outside of the economic pie this

669
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:00,920
is a Community Asset first and foremost

670
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,760
it really is if it was economics I'd be

671
00:41:02,760 --> 00:41:04,920
building apartments tomorrow we're full

672
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,040
in the apartments so this is one uh this

673
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,400
is a way for the gesi group to give back

674
00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:12,640
Union to give back the casino to give

675
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,359
back uh but if if it was isolated to

676
00:41:16,359 --> 00:41:18,280
swimming they're great people at the

677
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:19,480
Aquatic Center I think that's great

678
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:20,440
they're going to they're going to do a

679
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:21,960
nice job over there but this you're

680
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:24,040
going to be able to do learn to skate

681
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,680
learn to play hockey look cross soccer

682
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,319
basketball uh let's say connected high

683
00:41:30,319 --> 00:41:32,200
as a big basketball game that they can't

684
00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,520
fit here you can move it here we can do

685
00:41:34,520 --> 00:41:36,000
some local stuff that's going to be

686
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,160
pretty cool for the people and and and

687
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,839
having another venue to practice inside

688
00:41:40,839 --> 00:41:42,000
uh you got to remember there's a lot of

689
00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,560
daytime nonuse uh so from that

690
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:46,680
standpoint and then non hockey season

691
00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,000
too I mean you you've got let's just say

692
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:52,400
we do we do summer night in SKC range we

693
00:41:52,400 --> 00:41:54,000
can do summer night over there too so

694
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:55,680
you can you could have have some other

695
00:41:55,680 --> 00:41:57,880
events that this is this is a Community

696
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,720
Asset my lasty graduations for Community

697
00:42:00,720 --> 00:42:02,599
College for instance they they they've

698
00:42:02,599 --> 00:42:05,000
been looking for venues for a long time

699
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:07,200
so something or even a rain date if you

700
00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,240
get rained out at the campus so there's

701
00:42:09,240 --> 00:42:11,240
so many different things that uh that we

702
00:42:11,240 --> 00:42:14,359
can do but I I also really think uh this

703
00:42:14,359 --> 00:42:16,920
is something that's going to draw more

704
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:18,839
people kids are going to be able to have

705
00:42:18,839 --> 00:42:22,960
access to uh uh some some sports and

706
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,760
access to things the the the people

707
00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:27,000
watching the hockey games I some it's

708
00:42:27,000 --> 00:42:28,599
tough to get to no matter what I've

709
00:42:28,599 --> 00:42:30,520
tried a couple times it's not easy to

710
00:42:30,520 --> 00:42:32,119
get there so it's also going to bring up

711
00:42:32,119 --> 00:42:34,400
Union colleges stature as well as the

712
00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:37,200
cities and but I I really do think that

713
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:39,040
we can really go after some of these

714
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,720
Regional events that that are important

715
00:42:41,720 --> 00:42:44,040
and you see well some of the stuff uh

716
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,200
that's up in Glen's Falls they get a lot

717
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,640
of those things I mean we're a little

718
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:50,440
better located if you want my

719
00:42:50,440 --> 00:42:54,040
opinion Mr I just want one final point

720
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:56,680
if you don't mind Todd G here tonight

721
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,200
he's in Cancun

722
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:02,040
boo but he's

723
00:43:02,040 --> 00:43:04,400
already looking at events that he could

724
00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:05,800
attract here and there's a lot of

725
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:07,960
interest I mean you know Regional

726
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,400
tournaments there's so many so much

727
00:43:10,400 --> 00:43:12,599
Youth Sports has become an economic

728
00:43:12,599 --> 00:43:16,319
development um program so to attract

729
00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:18,839
them here you get the hotel movs Etc so

730
00:43:18,839 --> 00:43:20,280
Todd is not here tonight but he's

731
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:22,760
already trying to poke events here Mr

732
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:25,440
Toro had a question s i I think it would

733
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,599
be a great com compliment to our already

734
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,559
um famous a diamond and Central Park and

735
00:43:30,559 --> 00:43:32,200
the collegate sports that are happening

736
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,160
over there thanks to the the college and

737
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,160
the tennis as well the yes and the

738
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,160
promoters that that uh fill that the a

739
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,640
diamond every year so thank you John you

740
00:43:41,640 --> 00:43:43,680
got a question yeah um can you briefly

741
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,079
touch on um the seating and the parking

742
00:43:46,079 --> 00:43:50,119
to go with the seating sure uh well

743
00:43:50,119 --> 00:43:51,880
there there is part plenty of parking on

744
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,520
site uh we do have access to parking

745
00:43:54,520 --> 00:43:56,640
across the street as well uh on the

746
00:43:56,640 --> 00:44:00,800
corner of not and uh uh not and Max and

747
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,240
actually we own Maxon as well uh we've

748
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:06,480
done the parking study so there's enough

749
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,960
to accommodate and really even the only

750
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:11,160
challenges and uh I know Joe and Dave

751
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,079
can help me out on that one the only

752
00:44:13,079 --> 00:44:14,520
really challenge you would probably have

753
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,680
on on parking is on a probably Friday

754
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:18,880
night a little bit it's going to be

755
00:44:18,880 --> 00:44:20,760
because the casino's busy and Union

756
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:22,520
College hockey games are busy Union

757
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,040
College Saturday hockey games are at

758
00:44:24,040 --> 00:44:26,839
4:00 increasingly uh so from that

759
00:44:26,839 --> 00:44:29,520
standpoint but we we balanced it off if

760
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:31,880
you go on site got remember our our

761
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,280
office parking nobody parks there at

762
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,119
nighttime so there's there's a lot of

763
00:44:36,119 --> 00:44:39,160
parking on site we've got all the

764
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,680
specifics on the capacity for the arena

765
00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:43,960
is David I'm going to David all as far

766
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,800
as seats go the capacity for the arena

767
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:49,480
is 2250 seats for hockey events and then

768
00:44:49,480 --> 00:44:52,599
up to 3600 for other events when there's

769
00:44:52,599 --> 00:44:55,040
seats on the floor but you know it's

770
00:44:55,040 --> 00:44:58,480
2250 is primarily what we're looking at

771
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,800
and we size this to make it still very

772
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:02,960
comfortable not not a big or you know

773
00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,000
want one probably couldn't afford

774
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:06,880
building any any bigger but from that

775
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,559
standpoint you want you want to still

776
00:45:08,559 --> 00:45:10,880
maintain the atmosphere that Achilles

777
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:13,880
ring has speak to that at all well I

778
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,119
just want get back to this whole

779
00:45:15,119 --> 00:45:16,240
Community piece I mean part of what

780
00:45:16,240 --> 00:45:19,480
excites me about this is having Union

781
00:45:19,480 --> 00:45:21,520
really be engaged with the community I

782
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:23,000
think it's a win for Union it's a win

783
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,079
for SKC um some of you may be aware that

784
00:45:26,079 --> 00:45:27,480
we had this program we've Run for the

785
00:45:27,480 --> 00:45:29,119
last few years now on Friday evenings in

786
00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:31,200
the fall our field hockey team runs a

787
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,359
program for local youth show up with

788
00:45:33,359 --> 00:45:35,119
sneakers it's all you need they provide

789
00:45:35,119 --> 00:45:36,760
a stick and the women are really excited

790
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:38,119
to give you a free clinic in field

791
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:39,520
hockey from little kids up through e8th

792
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:41,520
grade or so when it comes to the

793
00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:43,240
question about how we engage more

794
00:45:43,240 --> 00:45:45,480
broadly in the community last year Union

795
00:45:45,480 --> 00:45:47,000
College hosted an event talking about

796
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:49,440
diversity and iceo there are fewer than

797
00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,440
five African-American coaches in all of

798
00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,240
division one ice hockey two of them work

799
00:45:53,240 --> 00:45:55,559
at you college and we've talked about

800
00:45:55,559 --> 00:45:56,880
the fact that we've can partner with

801
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,640
Will revas in the past and others to try

802
00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,559
and figure out how we take this game

803
00:46:00,559 --> 00:46:03,079
that so many people love at Union and

804
00:46:03,079 --> 00:46:05,920
help a broader group Po Folks learn to

805
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:08,119
enjoy it and even to get out on skates

806
00:46:08,119 --> 00:46:09,640
and you know skate around a little play

807
00:46:09,640 --> 00:46:11,079
a little plenty Patty and helmets and

808
00:46:11,079 --> 00:46:13,359
whatnot so we think this allows us to do

809
00:46:13,359 --> 00:46:14,760
even more of those kinds of activities

810
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:16,559
we've been doing in

811
00:46:16,559 --> 00:46:18,880
col I think it's important we work with

812
00:46:18,880 --> 00:46:21,240
the school district uh and and Community

813
00:46:21,240 --> 00:46:23,520
groups to determine how we maximize it

814
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:25,480
whether it's the boys and girls club or

815
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,200
whether it's the y or whether it's the

816
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,559
uh the the schools I mean the the sky's

817
00:46:30,559 --> 00:46:32,960
the limit this this is something you

818
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:34,160
don't want to say if you build that they

819
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,520
will come but this is going to be a

820
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:37,559
great asset and a lot of communities

821
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:40,950
don't have

822
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:44,200
this um so we had a document from esdc

823
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:45,359
which they kind of laid out what the

824
00:46:45,359 --> 00:46:49,280
funding was and um so they laid and

825
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:50,960
based on this all of them funding is

826
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:53,880
there so um but there was one part

827
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,200
called Community company Equity so I

828
00:46:57,200 --> 00:46:59,200
guess that's you it doesn't show though

829
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,520
that um which is 33 million but it

830
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:03,960
doesn't show at all what's put in by

831
00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:06,119
Union College which I understand is 20

832
00:47:06,119 --> 00:47:08,680
million so I you're all aware of the

833
00:47:08,680 --> 00:47:10,599
document right yeah yes so it doesn't it

834
00:47:10,599 --> 00:47:12,079
breaks it down but according to based on

835
00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:13,559
this which all the council members did

836
00:47:13,559 --> 00:47:16,599
get um it shows that the entire cost is

837
00:47:16,599 --> 00:47:20,200
covered but um so but you're you're

838
00:47:20,200 --> 00:47:21,599
saying tonight that there's still a

839
00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:24,359
funding Gap so if you could just I'm

840
00:47:24,359 --> 00:47:26,559
just going they sent me you could just

841
00:47:26,559 --> 00:47:28,599
you know the funding Gap got increased

842
00:47:28,599 --> 00:47:31,000
by over $2 million by Pile in alone that

843
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:33,480
we just brought out we have to deal with

844
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:35,240
uh so we're we're probably we're going

845
00:47:35,240 --> 00:47:37,800
to end up if the project happens and we

846
00:47:37,800 --> 00:47:40,559
have we've not decided right now uh

847
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:42,079
whether the Project's happening or not

848
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:44,960
we need we need these sources of we need

849
00:47:44,960 --> 00:47:46,839
these sources of funding we will make a

850
00:47:46,839 --> 00:47:48,800
decision pretty quickly one way or the

851
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,119
other but it's got it right now the

852
00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:54,559
funding by Union by the state uh by

853
00:47:54,559 --> 00:47:56,640
ourselves is is significant but it

854
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:58,400
doesn't close the

855
00:47:58,400 --> 00:48:01,440
gap okay I'm just going on the doc I

856
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:04,720
understand unfortunately numbers are moving every time you bid

857
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:07,319
things out we have a place it's a very

858
00:48:07,319 --> 00:48:09,680
good question coun president uh I used

859
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,359
to work at ESD so did David all and you

860
00:48:12,359 --> 00:48:14,079
have to balance the sources and uses in

861
00:48:14,079 --> 00:48:15,599
a document like this the public hearing

862
00:48:15,599 --> 00:48:17,640
is going to be Friday on the state's

863
00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,720
Grant uh and they have us down as in

864
00:48:20,720 --> 00:48:24,240
Metroplex I believe for to to you know

865
00:48:24,240 --> 00:48:26,160
and that's a placeholder

866
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:28,160
that we put in hoping that we would

867
00:48:28,160 --> 00:48:30,359
secure this additional funding so that's

868
00:48:30,359 --> 00:48:33,000
where the money shows up um because you

869
00:48:33,000 --> 00:48:35,079
in a in a document like this the

870
00:48:35,079 --> 00:48:40,839
expenses have to mirror the sources and uses are the kind of the the

871
00:48:40,839 --> 00:48:43,720
foundation of of these Grant documents

872
00:48:43,720 --> 00:48:45,599
but the state understands exactly where

873
00:48:45,599 --> 00:48:47,040
we are with this project they're very

874
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,000
supportive of it the governor supportive

875
00:48:49,000 --> 00:48:51,839
speaker Hy supportive uh Angelo S

876
00:48:51,839 --> 00:48:57,799
Roberts done a spectacular job in in uh advocating for this money it's such a

877
00:48:57,799 --> 00:49:01,400
welcome change for SKC to have an

878
00:49:01,400 --> 00:49:04,359
aggressive member of the majority in the

879
00:49:04,359 --> 00:49:06,599
New York State Assembly where for so

880
00:49:06,599 --> 00:49:09,040
many decades we did not and we weren't

881
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:12,559
able to compete for funding like this so

882
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:14,680
uh it's it's something that the state is

883
00:49:14,680 --> 00:49:16,680
extremely supportive and they're aware

884
00:49:16,680 --> 00:49:19,079
of all of our funding challenges and and

885
00:49:19,079 --> 00:49:20,960
opportunities at this point because we

886
00:49:20,960 --> 00:49:22,760
disclosed everything to the

887
00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,240
state so what shows up as Metroplex is

888
00:49:25,240 --> 00:49:27,359
really which is 2 million it's our

889
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:29,839
placeholder for the for for for the

890
00:49:29,839 --> 00:49:32,559
hopeful hopeful from the city um so will

891
00:49:32,559 --> 00:49:34,000
there be a pilot at all with this

892
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,960
project we're looking at a Pilot yes

893
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:37,880
that takes advantage of the Brownfield

894
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:39,680
program that the the site is in the

895
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,119
brown Brownfield program and we we have

896
00:49:43,119 --> 00:49:45,839
yet to to to uh determine the exact

897
00:49:45,839 --> 00:49:48,240
amount of uh funding that'll be

898
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:49,960
available from that but something we're

899
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,520
looking at but it's a community center

900
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,359
we're not looking for this to be a huge

901
00:49:53,359 --> 00:49:54,880
property taxpayer that's not what it's

902
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:58,400
about it's about bringing people in the

903
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:00,359
casino pays a huge property tax thank

904
00:50:00,359 --> 00:50:04,119
you Joe thank you Rush Street and rivers

905
00:50:04,119 --> 00:50:06,640
um this site in in total pays an

906
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,440
enormous amount of property taxes uh and

907
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:10,920
we've done a great job on that this

908
00:50:10,920 --> 00:50:13,640
building is not uh as a community center

909
00:50:13,640 --> 00:50:15,440
as an event center that they're not you

910
00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,200
know the MVP arena is not paying taxes

911
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:21,240
these Arenas are not um uh big property

912
00:50:21,240 --> 00:50:23,760
tax generators their value is from

913
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,240
visitation hotel stays sales tax and

914
00:50:27,240 --> 00:50:29,480
other revenue and again if some some of

915
00:50:29,480 --> 00:50:31,599
the folks who come here go over to the

916
00:50:31,599 --> 00:50:33,680
casino and their revenue increases the

917
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:37,990
city gets a direct benefit from

918
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,760
that P I just want to say I think that

919
00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:43,160
the project certainly has that economic

920
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,280
benefit and um I think it would be

921
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:47,440
fantastic and a fantastic compliment to

922
00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,599
what already exists at Mohawk Harbor

923
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:52,640
which obviously has been such a great

924
00:50:52,640 --> 00:50:55,119
Boom for our city of skty and you know

925
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:56,720
we can't can't I just think it's

926
00:50:56,720 --> 00:50:58,839
fantastic that we have that but I think

927
00:50:58,839 --> 00:51:00,400
the connection with the college is

928
00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:02,200
fantastic I think the connection in

929
00:51:02,200 --> 00:51:04,559
terms of the school district but also

930
00:51:04,559 --> 00:51:06,839
with younger you know with with kids in

931
00:51:06,839 --> 00:51:09,760
general um that it will expose our our

932
00:51:09,760 --> 00:51:12,359
youth to um a great deal of other

933
00:51:12,359 --> 00:51:14,640
activities um that might be available to

934
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:16,720
them but I'm really thrilled about what

935
00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:18,880
I think will be the impact on the

936
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:21,799
restaurants and the rest of the other

937
00:51:21,799 --> 00:51:23,480
types of Tourism attractions that we

938
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:24,880
have here in skincity so it just

939
00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:28,280
continues to raise us higher and higher

940
00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:30,640
um in in terms of our place in the state

941
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:32,680
so I appreciate the work that you put I

942
00:51:32,680 --> 00:51:34,200
think this really give is a very good

943
00:51:34,200 --> 00:51:35,880
comment I think this really gives

944
00:51:35,880 --> 00:51:38,520
another arrow in the quiver of uh

945
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,319
discover concy really to go after a lot

946
00:51:41,319 --> 00:51:43,240
of those those people that are going to

947
00:51:43,240 --> 00:51:45,079
other places that we could have come

948
00:51:45,079 --> 00:51:48,559
here to our city uh to because then then

949
00:51:48,559 --> 00:51:49,760
they're going to see other things

950
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:51,200
happening here they're just not going to

951
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,040
an event center they just don't go to

952
00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:56,480
Union College hockey games they're going to go to all sorts of

953
00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,040
places and Todd Todd we have is a great

954
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:02,200
guy great asset and he's totally excited

955
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:04,520
about what the how we can compete

956
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:08,590
throughout the

957
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:09,960
[Music]

958
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,799
state any other questions

959
00:52:12,799 --> 00:52:15,000
app I I do want to just point out one

960
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:16,359
thing just because just so that

961
00:52:16,359 --> 00:52:17,960
everybody knows that when we talked

962
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:19,400
about the arpa funding in terms of the

963
00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,160
Aquatic Center it was through an

964
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:22,480
application process so I just want

965
00:52:22,480 --> 00:52:25,040
everybody to be aware that that is how

966
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,559
we defin we allocated that money

967
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:28,480
initially

968
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:30,440
so

969
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:34,040
okay I I think and again just you won't

970
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:36,000
find another bigger supporter than the

971
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:37,640
Aquatic Center than daveid I we we're

972
00:52:37,640 --> 00:52:39,640
the ones who recruited them to the ALCO

973
00:52:39,640 --> 00:52:43,280
site or the harbor site and we're uh

974
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,160
working very very hard to make their

975
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,119
vision and reality at vport uh what

976
00:52:48,119 --> 00:52:50,319
we're asking is that that funding which

977
00:52:50,319 --> 00:52:53,599
is really set aside for the harbor to do

978
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:57,559
a sports entertain tainment Event Center

979
00:52:57,559 --> 00:53:00,240
related to Aquatics that it be allocated

980
00:53:00,240 --> 00:53:02,160
to this project which has

981
00:53:02,160 --> 00:53:03,880
multi-dimensional uses and that's our

982
00:53:03,880 --> 00:53:06,280
respectful request thank

983
00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:10,160
you I can just ask one question you're

984
00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:11,240
you know it's gone to the Planning

985
00:53:11,240 --> 00:53:12,880
Commission gone through the approval

986
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:15,440
process uh some of your word choice was

987
00:53:15,440 --> 00:53:18,760
that like this is not 100% done what

988
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,240
does it take to close the deal so that

989
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:25,960
we can move forward with it we need

990
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:28,040
one we have a public hearing with the

991
00:53:28,040 --> 00:53:32,200
state on Friday Friday uh we need uh a

992
00:53:32,200 --> 00:53:34,640
vote whenever you can do it here from

993
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:40,240
the city uh Union uh deal is contingent

994
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:42,000
on these these funding

995
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:46,040
sources um uh in the county is uh we're

996
00:53:46,040 --> 00:53:47,799
having a resolution and meeting with the

997
00:53:47,799 --> 00:53:49,440
county too to for them to provide

998
00:53:49,440 --> 00:53:50,799
support as

999
00:53:50,799 --> 00:53:53,359
well so is it okay so I'm just going by

1000
00:53:53,359 --> 00:53:59,599
the document so 5 mil at the county the county is yet to act on

1001
00:53:59,599 --> 00:54:02,720
that okay so the county is that's onist

1002
00:54:02,720 --> 00:54:04,319
it's we're working closely with the

1003
00:54:04,319 --> 00:54:06,960
county and again as a host the tourism

1004
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:09,240
Bureau and uh have been extremely

1005
00:54:09,240 --> 00:54:10,640
supportive we're supportive of the

1006
00:54:10,640 --> 00:54:12,480
Aquatic Center continue to be support of

1007
00:54:12,480 --> 00:54:14,960
the Aquatic Center get the fundamental

1008
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:16,680
role that Sports tourism plays so we're

1009
00:54:16,680 --> 00:54:19,520
working with the county and esdc Grant

1010
00:54:19,520 --> 00:54:21,920
is 10 million that's just the money that

1011
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:24,319
was provided in the state budget by the

1012
00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:27,280
governor speaker Hasty and ass in Santa

1013
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,559
Barbara so again my question comes back

1014
00:54:29,559 --> 00:54:33,559
to I don't see the the the um here Union

1015
00:54:33,559 --> 00:54:36,040
College is not is not just here at all

1016
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:37,960
it's in the equity section oh okay

1017
00:54:37,960 --> 00:54:40,280
you're you're including them there okay

1018
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:44,400
under company Equity okay the thing to

1019
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:45,839
keep in mind we're not an owner we're a

1020
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:47,440
tenant think we're effectively a

1021
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:50,000
lieutenant so that's guarantee that's

1022
00:54:50,000 --> 00:54:53,760
part of that money that you see okay so

1023
00:54:53,760 --> 00:54:57,240
Union's commitment is 25 years for use

1024
00:54:57,240 --> 00:54:59,640
and they're prepaid for a lot of this to

1025
00:54:59,640 --> 00:55:02,079
help fund the project okay so they 20

1026
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:03,319
million paids for all that would you

1027
00:55:03,319 --> 00:55:05,720
just explain so the okay and the other

1028
00:55:05,720 --> 00:55:08,240
13 million then is that the colesy group

1029
00:55:08,240 --> 00:55:11,040
Yes actually it's 15 and five but I we

1030
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:13,000
can get into the nuances they paid it

1031
00:55:13,000 --> 00:55:15,839
over some over time but yes all right

1032
00:55:15,839 --> 00:55:17,520
thank you and again because it's not

1033
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:20,119
municipally owned any construction risk

1034
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:22,039
any overage it's the responsibility of

1035
00:55:22,039 --> 00:55:24,599
the GL the way this is structured which

1036
00:55:24,599 --> 00:55:26,760
is very

1037
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,640
unique I mean it really wants to leave

1038
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:30,559
at this

1039
00:55:30,559 --> 00:55:34,280
point no that story about Mo car Dave

1040
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,359
closed on the property on April Fool's

1041
00:55:36,359 --> 00:55:38,720
Day on April 1st and early on there were

1042
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,160
a lot of challenges in the project and

1043
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,440
he used to always say to me I don't know

1044
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:43,920
if we made the right decision and we we

1045
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:45,480
all hearkened back to April Fool's Day

1046
00:55:45,480 --> 00:55:47,200
but it turned out to be a wonderful

1047
00:55:47,200 --> 00:55:49,440
project for commun again please don't

1048
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:53,440
forget that activity level prior to 2004

1049
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:55,240
which is a long time ago I know people

1050
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:57,280
say R look forward don't look back but

1051
00:55:57,280 --> 00:56:00,240
it needs to be said tire recycling

1052
00:56:00,240 --> 00:56:02,680
imagine that beautiful site imagine that

1053
00:56:02,680 --> 00:56:06,240
Alco Legacy being lost imagine the fumes

1054
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:08,079
the dust imagine the negative impact on

1055
00:56:08,079 --> 00:56:10,200
Union College from having the world's

1056
00:56:10,200 --> 00:56:12,039
largest or the country's largest tire

1057
00:56:12,039 --> 00:56:15,480
recycling facility at their front door

1058
00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,440
separating them from the river it it

1059
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,000
would have been a disaster and when this

1060
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,680
when we started working on Long Harbor

1061
00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:26,000
we had to can't do attitude prior 2004

1062
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:27,920
we were told this will never happen this

1063
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,280
cannot happen and we Pro them wrong and

1064
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:33,280
this project is another key step in

1065
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:35,160
moving the ball forward we cannot stand

1066
00:56:35,160 --> 00:56:37,240
still we have to move the ball forward

1067
00:56:37,240 --> 00:56:39,559
or the puck in this case you know you

1068
00:56:39,559 --> 00:56:41,760
know the easiest thing for us to do is

1069
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:45,119
not do this project this is probably I'm

1070
00:56:45,119 --> 00:56:47,280
old you guys are a lot younger than me

1071
00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:50,359
but the fact is that if you look at what

1072
00:56:50,359 --> 00:56:52,520
we're doing for connecting Investments

1073
00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:54,400
whether it was the investment in MVP

1074
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,880
when the first started the thing back

1075
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:58,280
when it jump started Ray convincing us

1076
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:00,680
to do Center City which I'm not sure why

1077
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,720
or how but we did that the movie theater

1078
00:57:03,720 --> 00:57:07,359
797 Broadway gob's headquarters there's

1079
00:57:07,359 --> 00:57:09,720
so many things that uh we did and this

1080
00:57:09,720 --> 00:57:12,960
is one way and I'll honesty uh to give

1081
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:16,079
back I mean it is I mean we can those

1082
00:57:16,079 --> 00:57:17,799
apartments our apartments are full we

1083
00:57:17,799 --> 00:57:19,359
can we can fill up apartments on the

1084
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:21,599
other side but this is one that I think

1085
00:57:21,599 --> 00:57:23,799
to tie Union College more into the

1086
00:57:23,799 --> 00:57:26,039
community when we first came here before

1087
00:57:26,039 --> 00:57:27,720
David was here Union College was an

1088
00:57:27,720 --> 00:57:29,319
island now they're part of our community

1089
00:57:29,319 --> 00:57:30,799
he's done a nice job in terms of

1090
00:57:30,799 --> 00:57:32,839
integrating it in and I really believe

1091
00:57:32,839 --> 00:57:35,039
that I think it it's one that it's just

1092
00:57:35,039 --> 00:57:38,319
an opportunity that we can create and it

1093
00:57:38,319 --> 00:57:40,599
just puts a bow on creating a nice

1094
00:57:40,599 --> 00:57:44,880
Entertainer District question Mr Farley

1095
00:57:44,880 --> 00:57:47,640
so um would it be uh pretty accurate to

1096
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:51,200
say that as amazing as it sounds and um

1097
00:57:51,200 --> 00:57:53,039
certainly um there's a level of

1098
00:57:53,039 --> 00:57:56,839
excitement in the room that without the city council support for

1099
00:57:56,839 --> 00:57:59,559
this project it likely doesn't happen is

1100
00:57:59,559 --> 00:58:04,549
that pretty accurate

1101
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:08,359
okay anybody else so I just want to you

1102
00:58:08,359 --> 00:58:10,319
did say that we didn't the city did not

1103
00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,400
um give any money towards towards the

1104
00:58:12,400 --> 00:58:15,079
casino any Financial but I just have to

1105
00:58:15,079 --> 00:58:16,599
say that the staff did a lot of work

1106
00:58:16,599 --> 00:58:18,079
down there our know engineer was really

1107
00:58:18,079 --> 00:58:20,280
involved I just got say some of some of

1108
00:58:20,280 --> 00:58:21,839
them right here as a matter of fact did

1109
00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:24,200
I see Chris Wallen here somewhere

1110
00:58:24,200 --> 00:58:26,039
Anthony just saying this is the first

1111
00:58:26,039 --> 00:58:27,240
time we've asked for a financial

1112
00:58:27,240 --> 00:58:29,160
commitment of any kind in doing this

1113
00:58:29,160 --> 00:58:31,039
project which I think is a significant

1114
00:58:31,039 --> 00:58:33,319
point but we cannot say enough good work

1115
00:58:33,319 --> 00:58:34,799
and when I talked about the sewer

1116
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:36,920
improvements how transformational that

1117
00:58:36,920 --> 00:58:38,480
whole project is it doesn't get enough

1118
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:40,039
recognition and the Chris Rolland

1119
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:42,400
traffic circle that's right

1120
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:44,359
award-winning the awardwinning

1121
00:58:44,359 --> 00:58:45,839
infrastructure improvements that were

1122
00:58:45,839 --> 00:58:49,079
made outside the game uh really won the

1123
00:58:49,079 --> 00:58:52,079
State Transportation award that year for

1124
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:55,920
the um not Street uh rail pass and the

1125
00:58:55,920 --> 00:58:56,839
traffic

1126
00:58:56,839 --> 00:58:58,799
circle but the other thing as you said

1127
00:58:58,799 --> 00:59:00,640
earlier though think about when we first

1128
00:59:00,640 --> 00:59:03,440
came we had raw sewage because you had

1129
00:59:03,440 --> 00:59:06,160
infiltration storm water it was mixed

1130
00:59:06,160 --> 00:59:08,480
with sewage going into the Mohawk River

1131
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,359
we saw it it is probably one of the

1132
00:59:10,359 --> 00:59:13,359
cleaner sections of the river now and it

1133
00:59:13,359 --> 00:59:15,480
it's it it is working with the city and

1134
00:59:15,480 --> 00:59:18,319
working with Paul F and you're right the

1135
00:59:18,319 --> 00:59:21,720
this could not have been done without a

1136
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,000
c do attitude on the part of the city

1137
00:59:24,000 --> 00:59:26,720
really very very pleased you won't get

1138
00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:29,240
anything right right from police chief

1139
00:59:29,240 --> 00:59:31,960
fire chief every department head it was

1140
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:34,079
uh uh a lot of hard work but you know

1141
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:36,720
what they're proud too and when we drive

1142
00:59:36,720 --> 00:59:37,839
through there and see all those

1143
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:40,400
employees I mean holy cow that that

1144
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:42,720
really that there's a lot of people's

1145
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:45,119
lives we impacted whether it's at Mok

1146
00:59:45,119 --> 00:59:46,680
Harbor or the casino I mean with the

1147
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:49,280
amount of disc connected employees uh

1148
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,119
they've got raises very significant over

1149
00:59:52,119 --> 00:59:53,680
the past years and they're doing very

1150
00:59:53,680 --> 00:59:55,280
well you don't find many people leaving

1151
00:59:55,280 --> 00:59:57,400
the employment that just you don't

1152
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,440
know yes Mr Williams has question then

1153
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,319
just in kind with your sentiment about

1154
01:00:02,319 --> 01:00:04,039
Pride I had a conversation with the

1155
01:00:04,039 --> 01:00:06,839
county legislator Omar mcel who um

1156
01:00:06,839 --> 01:00:09,440
recounted that his uncles were integral

1157
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,119
in building the Empire Plaza in Albany

1158
01:00:12,119 --> 01:00:14,160
and as we talk about similar projects

1159
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,720
where we can have opportunities for

1160
01:00:15,720 --> 01:00:17,280
members of this community to be very

1161
01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:19,280
involved in these types of uh

1162
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,680
development efforts I would love to see

1163
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,440
uh some of our local programs such as

1164
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:26,200
seat Center uh but other uh just better

1165
01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:27,480
suited small businesses with

1166
01:00:27,480 --> 01:00:29,880
opportunities to truly uh put their

1167
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:31,799
sweat and tears into these types of

1168
01:00:31,799 --> 01:00:34,000
items so that they can see this the

1169
01:00:34,000 --> 01:00:35,520
generationally their impact in the

1170
01:00:35,520 --> 01:00:37,559
community absolutely the seat Center I

1171
01:00:37,559 --> 01:00:39,400
know Joe we we hire a lot of people with

1172
01:00:39,400 --> 01:00:41,960
the seat center right we so we we work

1173
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,520
with them but even on the construction

1174
01:00:43,520 --> 01:00:45,440
side absolutely I mean some of this is

1175
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,119
going to be very specialized of course

1176
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:50,000
but uh uh from that standpoint uh we use

1177
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:51,920
a lot of local vendors I mean even the

1178
01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:53,559
general contractor that we would pick

1179
01:00:53,559 --> 01:00:55,319
with is locally here the Chas is

1180
01:00:55,319 --> 01:00:57,680
headquarter right in SKC with our

1181
01:00:57,680 --> 01:01:00,480
regional office SKC Hardware those are

1182
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:04,319
people that have been involved in this project from the start so you're

1183
01:01:04,319 --> 01:01:06,799
absolutely right there will be major mwb

1184
01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:09,799
contracts thank that was my question so

1185
01:01:09,799 --> 01:01:12,280
this is you write you look in my paper

1186
01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,559
yeah I'm going to write some more I

1187
01:01:14,559 --> 01:01:15,720
can't

1188
01:01:15,720 --> 01:01:18,200
read because I know the state has a 30%

1189
01:01:18,200 --> 01:01:20,359
commitment for mwb and that's in the $10

1190
01:01:20,359 --> 01:01:23,440
million for sure yes oh so it's only 30%

1191
01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:24,880
of the 10 million it'll be and other

1192
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,990
parts of the funding streams as

1193
01:01:29,000 --> 01:01:31,599
well okay that's it I didn't have any

1194
01:01:31,599 --> 01:01:33,720
other questions we really thank you for

1195
01:01:33,720 --> 01:01:35,799
taking the time it's uh it's exciting

1196
01:01:35,799 --> 01:01:38,720
and uh Dr Harris Joe and the team thank

1197
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:40,079
you again for taking the time all right

1198
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:43,200
thank you coming thank you thank you I

1199
01:01:43,200 --> 01:01:45,359
think that's

1200
01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:53,430
your oh okay that's way the

1201
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:55,680
end

1202
01:01:55,680 --> 01:01:59,599
Finance what fin

1203
01:01:59,599 --> 01:02:04,069
yes

1204
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:15,870
friend thank

1205
01:02:15,880 --> 01:02:18,960
you next on the agenda is

1206
01:02:18,960 --> 01:02:21,440
finance thank you I would like to call

1207
01:02:21,440 --> 01:02:23,319
the finance committee to order and we

1208
01:02:23,319 --> 01:02:25,680
have one item and that is change in the

1209
01:02:25,680 --> 01:02:29,349
CSA contract

1210
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:31,160
language

1211
01:02:31,160 --> 01:02:33,760
thank all I got an easy War for you

1212
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:37,000
tonight here uh this is just an mou

1213
01:02:37,000 --> 01:02:40,160
between the Citys connecti and uh CA uh

1214
01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,359
it's just clarifying language uh in

1215
01:02:42,359 --> 01:02:45,400
section 9 and section three uh regarding

1216
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,119
the call outs emergency call outs uh for

1217
01:02:48,119 --> 01:02:53,349
specific group of CCA uh

1218
01:02:53,359 --> 01:02:54,960
employees

1219
01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,079
any

1220
01:02:56,079 --> 01:02:58,359
questions it's just a substitution of

1221
01:02:58,359 --> 01:03:00,039
language as far as there's no there's no

1222
01:03:00,039 --> 01:03:02,200
change it's just clarification in

1223
01:03:02,200 --> 01:03:05,079
language and this has to do with for DM

1224
01:03:05,079 --> 01:03:07,680
or call it's for call outs and emergency

1225
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,240
call outs it's a 3-hour window uh

1226
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:12,160
specifically uh for code enforcement

1227
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:16,240
officers okay go ahead please so um

1228
01:03:16,240 --> 01:03:18,400
since there's a clarification then um

1229
01:03:18,400 --> 01:03:20,160
something must have come up to prompt

1230
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:22,240
that there was a some misunderstanding

1231
01:03:22,240 --> 01:03:24,880
of it I believe there was a scenario uh

1232
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:27,880
a few years ago um there was uh

1233
01:03:27,880 --> 01:03:30,359
miscommunication between the department

1234
01:03:30,359 --> 01:03:32,880
and payroll on what was uh shouldn't be

1235
01:03:32,880 --> 01:03:35,920
exactly paid out um and the the code

1236
01:03:35,920 --> 01:03:37,880
enforcement officer um wasn't

1237
01:03:37,880 --> 01:03:39,799
understanding what was actually written

1238
01:03:39,799 --> 01:03:42,119
um in the agreement so um we made

1239
01:03:42,119 --> 01:03:44,279
clarification language and different

1240
01:03:44,279 --> 01:03:46,559
scenarios um so they could bridge that

1241
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:47,720
gap of

1242
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,079
understanding so in the past did we pay

1243
01:03:50,079 --> 01:03:52,279
out based on the misunderstanding of the

1244
01:03:52,279 --> 01:03:54,599
language um I'm not 100% sure on that

1245
01:03:54,599 --> 01:03:57,000
out to look take a look at our records

1246
01:03:57,000 --> 01:04:00,200
but and is anyone go ahead

1247
01:04:00,200 --> 01:04:03,079
ma' the evolution of this is it used to

1248
01:04:03,079 --> 01:04:04,839
be a 4-Hour call

1249
01:04:04,839 --> 01:04:07,839
out the contract we modified that number

1250
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:11,240
of years back to go to a 3-hour call out

1251
01:04:11,240 --> 01:04:14,599
is the employee uh is at time and a half

1252
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:15,760
at that

1253
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,720
point uh so we gained some savings on it

1254
01:04:19,720 --> 01:04:23,839
and most times their call out uh can be

1255
01:04:23,839 --> 01:04:28,319
adequate handled within a 3-hour window

1256
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:31,000
what was happening is when there are

1257
01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:35,160
multiple call outs M so that if another

1258
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:39,839
event happens during that 3-hour

1259
01:04:39,839 --> 01:04:42,039
window there was a question whether they

1260
01:04:42,039 --> 01:04:44,480
were treating it as a separate call out

1261
01:04:44,480 --> 01:04:46,599
and we get time and a half for another 3

1262
01:04:46,599 --> 01:04:49,559
hours or they were still on call from

1263
01:04:49,559 --> 01:04:52,079
the original call out and so this

1264
01:04:52,079 --> 01:04:54,440
clarifies that so that anything that

1265
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:56,880
happens when they're called in in that

1266
01:04:56,880 --> 01:04:58,720
3-hour

1267
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:01,920
window that's the time they get so they

1268
01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:03,680
might handle one call they might handle

1269
01:05:03,680 --> 01:05:07,240
two calls could handle three calls after

1270
01:05:07,240 --> 01:05:10,279
that they would be they go home or back

1271
01:05:10,279 --> 01:05:12,400
on their own time in another call out

1272
01:05:12,400 --> 01:05:15,440
that would reestablish another 3-hour

1273
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,119
window so prior to the clarification

1274
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:19,920
were we paying it out like there were

1275
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:22,160
times there were times

1276
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:26,440
when I will say the was not as accurate

1277
01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:28,760
as it maybe should have been or may have

1278
01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,520
been interpreted to different

1279
01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,079
individuals benefit where yes the the

1280
01:05:35,079 --> 01:05:36,440
payouts were

1281
01:05:36,440 --> 01:05:38,760
not consistent with what I've just

1282
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,359
articulated okay and is there any

1283
01:05:41,359 --> 01:05:43,920
individual that's expecting now to be

1284
01:05:43,920 --> 01:05:46,640
reimbursed at the the old way before we

1285
01:05:46,640 --> 01:05:49,000
um change this no this will clarify it

1286
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:52,039
and move forward everybody's on the same

1287
01:05:52,039 --> 01:06:01,510
page and when was the actual document

1288
01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:05,200
signed like September was 2023 September

1289
01:06:05,200 --> 01:06:09,319
25 925 2023

1290
01:06:09,319 --> 01:06:11,319
okay I guess I'm just wondering why it's

1291
01:06:11,319 --> 01:06:14,039
just coming Council action now I don't

1292
01:06:14,039 --> 01:06:16,880
have an answer for so it had to go back

1293
01:06:16,880 --> 01:06:18,839
to the there was a question whether we

1294
01:06:18,839 --> 01:06:21,720
could do anou without going back to the

1295
01:06:21,720 --> 01:06:24,240
full membership they wanted to take get

1296
01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,960
back to the full membership so that in

1297
01:06:26,960 --> 01:06:30,400
fact uh it did do that and then it came

1298
01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:32,440
back and so now it's coming to the

1299
01:06:32,440 --> 01:06:35,079
council okay but it's still the original

1300
01:06:35,079 --> 01:06:39,720
signature date of September 2020 we

1301
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:42,240
have the terms and conditions of

1302
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:45,520
employment since that time in whatever

1303
01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,680
it's September in fact a little bit

1304
01:06:47,680 --> 01:06:49,440
before that have been consistent with

1305
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:53,000
what's outlined in the agreement

1306
01:06:53,000 --> 01:06:55,799
okay those are my questions any other

1307
01:06:55,799 --> 01:06:59,039
questions sen may I have a motion Mo

1308
01:06:59,039 --> 01:07:02,160
second second all in favor I I thank you

1309
01:07:02,160 --> 01:07:03,640
any other business before

1310
01:07:03,640 --> 01:07:05,640
Finance may have a

1311
01:07:05,640 --> 01:07:09,680
motion second all in favor I thank you

1312
01:07:09,680 --> 01:07:12,480
uh I'd like to call to oh I'd like to

1313
01:07:12,480 --> 01:07:13,839
call to order City development and

1314
01:07:13,839 --> 01:07:16,680
planning uh we have 12 items on the

1315
01:07:16,680 --> 01:07:19,240
agenda and I know that we have people

1316
01:07:19,240 --> 01:07:22,039
here for the Central Park sidewalk so Mr

1317
01:07:22,039 --> 01:07:23,599
M do you want to call that out of order

1318
01:07:23,599 --> 01:07:24,440
so

1319
01:07:24,440 --> 01:07:25,599
home if you don't mind I would

1320
01:07:25,599 --> 01:07:27,720
appreciate I hope everyone else we do

1321
01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,520
have uh people you want stay home

1322
01:07:30,520 --> 01:07:33,240
meeting fine

1323
01:07:33,240 --> 01:07:36,599
okay you are number eight so you can

1324
01:07:36,599 --> 01:07:39,359
just stay right there you want to stay

1325
01:07:39,359 --> 01:07:40,559
no

1326
01:07:40,559 --> 01:07:45,240
you okay so um Mr M yeah thank you on

1327
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:46,480
the agenda thank you for putting this on

1328
01:07:46,480 --> 01:07:49,200
the agenda this um going to ask Mr wall

1329
01:07:49,200 --> 01:07:51,319
to give us an update on the Central Park

1330
01:07:51,319 --> 01:07:54,039
sidewalk project and where we are at

1331
01:07:54,039 --> 01:07:56,240
this point in time so that the resident

1332
01:07:56,240 --> 01:08:01,630
there can get an

1333
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:04,200
update hello so where we are with this

1334
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:06,160
project right now is that we have a a

1335
01:08:06,160 --> 01:08:08,599
petition in and we have looked at

1336
01:08:08,599 --> 01:08:10,599
preliminary design options for the

1337
01:08:10,599 --> 01:08:13,559
project um so to compare it what we

1338
01:08:13,559 --> 01:08:15,319
wanted to do was we just successfully

1339
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:17,319
completed a similar project on North

1340
01:08:17,319 --> 01:08:20,159
College Street in The Stockade that

1341
01:08:20,159 --> 01:08:23,679
project was approximately 630 ft long uh

1342
01:08:23,679 --> 01:08:27,640
with 1260 ft of curb and it cost uh

1343
01:08:27,640 --> 01:08:30,239
$425,000 with uh some of those costs

1344
01:08:30,239 --> 01:08:31,920
being assessed back to them at the rate

1345
01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:36,040
of $55 a foot um for Central Parkway uh

1346
01:08:36,040 --> 01:08:38,440
it is a unique Street being much longer

1347
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:41,199
twice as long wider with a median with

1348
01:08:41,199 --> 01:08:43,279
the lights down the middle um so the

1349
01:08:43,279 --> 01:08:45,400
length we actually is almost exactly two

1350
01:08:45,400 --> 01:08:49,560
times that so costing wise um we looked

1351
01:08:49,560 --> 01:08:51,640
and we estimating that the project will

1352
01:08:51,640 --> 01:08:55,719
cost uh between 1 and 1 .2 million for a

1353
01:08:55,719 --> 01:08:58,520
street uh reconstruction we have several

1354
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:00,159
options that we've been discussing

1355
01:09:00,159 --> 01:09:03,759
internally um the options R all from um

1356
01:09:03,759 --> 01:09:05,920
essentially put it back the way it is

1357
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:08,120
the street is two lanes with a center

1358
01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:10,560
median but does not uh technically have

1359
01:09:10,560 --> 01:09:12,880
on street parking people attempt to park

1360
01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:15,239
on street but most of the time they uh

1361
01:09:15,239 --> 01:09:17,759
park on the sidewalks and we're trying

1362
01:09:17,759 --> 01:09:19,520
to avoid having people park on the

1363
01:09:19,520 --> 01:09:23,120
sidewalks so we have options of um

1364
01:09:23,120 --> 01:09:24,679
essentially do nothing put it back the

1365
01:09:24,679 --> 01:09:27,520
way it is and post it for no parking um

1366
01:09:27,520 --> 01:09:29,719
residents on one side have driveways on

1367
01:09:29,719 --> 01:09:31,120
the other side have an Alleyway with

1368
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:33,679
driveways in the back and then we have

1369
01:09:33,679 --> 01:09:36,759
uh several options uh the one uh one of

1370
01:09:36,759 --> 01:09:38,520
which is parking on one side and one of

1371
01:09:38,520 --> 01:09:41,319
which is parking on both sides but as we

1372
01:09:41,319 --> 01:09:43,520
explore our options our costs and the

1373
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,839
impact of the neighborhood expand uh

1374
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:48,839
pretty significantly so uh right now we

1375
01:09:48,839 --> 01:09:50,799
have no actions other than we have some

1376
01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:53,480
plinary ideas um and the thought was

1377
01:09:53,480 --> 01:09:56,880
then to um discuss that uh those costs

1378
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,679
and the impact that would be uh at this

1379
01:09:58,679 --> 01:10:00,880
meeting and then possibly call a meeting

1380
01:10:00,880 --> 01:10:02,679
with the residents to discuss what they

1381
01:10:02,679 --> 01:10:06,520
would be in favor of going forward okay

1382
01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:09,000
any questions so so you mentioned 1.5

1383
01:10:09,000 --> 01:10:11,920
million 1.2 million that's the high high

1384
01:10:11,920 --> 01:10:13,560
side yes that's the high side if we were

1385
01:10:13,560 --> 01:10:15,719
to do essentially a complete Street

1386
01:10:15,719 --> 01:10:18,239
reconstruction with parking with parking

1387
01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:20,880
adjusting the the island yes uh it would

1388
01:10:20,880 --> 01:10:24,040
be curbs parking lighting land

1389
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,520
Landscaping um it would be uh

1390
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,600
essentially complete Street

1391
01:10:27,600 --> 01:10:30,360
reconstruction um haven't done one of

1392
01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,199
those in my tenure here yet the

1393
01:10:32,199 --> 01:10:34,360
residential area it would be almost akin

1394
01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:35,440
to what we've been doing on Erie

1395
01:10:35,440 --> 01:10:37,719
Boulevard where the entire Street would

1396
01:10:37,719 --> 01:10:41,719
be reconstructed right now the lanes are

1397
01:10:41,719 --> 01:10:45,560
um 15 ft so a typical travel Lane is 11

1398
01:10:45,560 --> 01:10:47,800
ft and then we want an 8T on street

1399
01:10:47,800 --> 01:10:50,760
parking linee for 19 ft total we have 15

1400
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:53,880
ft which leaves 4T um if someone were to

1401
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,800
Park uh really now people are kind of

1402
01:10:55,800 --> 01:10:57,600
smart about it if they Park they Park

1403
01:10:57,600 --> 01:10:59,400
where a turnaround is try to get around

1404
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:01,640
it but if you park where the curbing is

1405
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,120
you're impediment you're blocked so

1406
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,960
that's why people are parking on the

1407
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,080
sidewalk um you know there are options

1408
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:11,360
out there that uh that could be

1409
01:11:11,360 --> 01:11:13,760
discussed but they weren't really pushed

1410
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:16,520
too far down the road which is um for

1411
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:18,239
possibly uh budget savings you could

1412
01:11:18,239 --> 01:11:20,679
eliminate the island Al together and

1413
01:11:20,679 --> 01:11:22,000
then if you eliminate the island then

1414
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:23,880
you have that 10 ft to use but the

1415
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:25,640
character of the street significantly

1416
01:11:25,640 --> 01:11:29,560
changes um so and then there are you

1417
01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,880
know we have we have quite a few things

1418
01:11:31,880 --> 01:11:35,040
um but the street is significantly

1419
01:11:35,040 --> 01:11:38,199
different um I know that uh for most

1420
01:11:38,199 --> 01:11:39,480
people looking at it you would think

1421
01:11:39,480 --> 01:11:41,800
it's very similar to right and de camp

1422
01:11:41,800 --> 01:11:43,920
but right and de Camp already had the

1423
01:11:43,920 --> 01:11:46,199
width to allow for parking so we

1424
01:11:46,199 --> 01:11:48,000
essentially put it back there was no

1425
01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,000
RightWay impacts there were no impacts

1426
01:11:50,000 --> 01:11:52,560
to Residents um one of the things that

1427
01:11:52,560 --> 01:11:54,520
we that we do have prepared for our

1428
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:56,520
meeting uh when it's called is you know

1429
01:11:56,520 --> 01:11:58,679
impacts to the public um there would be

1430
01:11:58,679 --> 01:12:01,679
several uh impacts to trees um

1431
01:12:01,679 --> 01:12:04,239
essentially all um full grown trees

1432
01:12:04,239 --> 01:12:06,600
within 5 ft of the existing sidewalk

1433
01:12:06,600 --> 01:12:09,239
would have to be removed um most trees

1434
01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:11,440
within the median would be removed so

1435
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:13,520
the street would be kind of starting

1436
01:12:13,520 --> 01:12:15,280
from scratch it's not to say we wouldn't

1437
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:16,960
put Landscaping in but you do not

1438
01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:20,280
replace a fully mature 60ft tree with a

1439
01:12:20,280 --> 01:12:22,760
tree you replace it with a new tree so

1440
01:12:22,760 --> 01:12:25,520
the impact would be that um the other

1441
01:12:25,520 --> 01:12:27,320
thing just talking about you know

1442
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:28,800
positives and negatives as we would go

1443
01:12:28,800 --> 01:12:32,400
forward is if the lanes get wider uh I

1444
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:34,560
drove the street in the last week six

1445
01:12:34,560 --> 01:12:36,760
times I did not see a vehicle on the

1446
01:12:36,760 --> 01:12:40,120
street at any point when I drove um an

1447
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:43,880
18t Lane with no one parked on it is

1448
01:12:43,880 --> 01:12:49,199
very wide so it will be also uh on us to

1449
01:12:49,199 --> 01:12:51,440
you know try to Harbor the the speed

1450
01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:53,000
issues that we always have because the

1451
01:12:53,000 --> 01:12:55,040
lanes will be wider and the trees will

1452
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:57,239
be gone and trees tall trees help create

1453
01:12:57,239 --> 01:12:59,120
that narrowing effect so there's a lot

1454
01:12:59,120 --> 01:13:01,159
of you know positives and negatives that

1455
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:02,760
uh that we'd have to discuss with the

1456
01:13:02,760 --> 01:13:04,639
residents on the street before moving

1457
01:13:04,639 --> 01:13:07,800
forward in so do you have an estimate on

1458
01:13:07,800 --> 01:13:10,840
uh keeping it the same way like the same

1459
01:13:10,840 --> 01:13:12,320
if we were to put it right back the

1460
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:14,280
street if we were to put it right back

1461
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,920
the way it is I would say essentially a

1462
01:13:16,920 --> 01:13:19,040
little south of a million dollar we

1463
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:21,560
probably have around a $250,000 savings

1464
01:13:21,560 --> 01:13:22,800
to put it back the way it is you have to

1465
01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:25,000
remember if we span two what we're doing

1466
01:13:25,000 --> 01:13:26,239
is we're building a road where there

1467
01:13:26,239 --> 01:13:28,320
wasn't a road so we have to do a full

1468
01:13:28,320 --> 01:13:29,880
construction of a road where we're

1469
01:13:29,880 --> 01:13:32,000
talking about subbase base binder all

1470
01:13:32,000 --> 01:13:34,080
the way up uh to to expand that

1471
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:35,679
similarly if the island moves the island

1472
01:13:35,679 --> 01:13:37,560
is grass we'll have to go down you know

1473
01:13:37,560 --> 01:13:39,840
you go down 24 in to build up a road bed

1474
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,760
so that you have a consistent surface to

1475
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:50,239
run traffic on um so yeah so Mr um so if

1476
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:55,400
I'm understanding this correctly it's roughly million dollars to put it

1477
01:13:55,400 --> 01:13:59,400
back to its to what was that really

1478
01:13:59,400 --> 01:14:01,520
didn't meet maybe the needs of the

1479
01:14:01,520 --> 01:14:03,320
people in the neighborhood but for a

1480
01:14:03,320 --> 01:14:06,080
million two you can greatly change and

1481
01:14:06,080 --> 01:14:09,159
increase the yeah that's

1482
01:14:09,159 --> 01:14:12,280
what Fred Fred is uh he's our engineer

1483
01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:14,159
on the project he did North College with

1484
01:14:14,159 --> 01:14:15,960
us so he put some of this together so

1485
01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,120
yeah $250,000 to give or take would give

1486
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:20,239
us would give us more but the impact

1487
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:22,280
would be

1488
01:14:22,280 --> 01:14:25,560
noticeable and would it take so if

1489
01:14:25,560 --> 01:14:26,960
rather than just kind of like fixing

1490
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:29,320
what there to how much longer would it

1491
01:14:29,320 --> 01:14:32,440
take to do and to make all the changes

1492
01:14:32,440 --> 01:14:33,760
that you've

1493
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,520
described uh it would probably factor of

1494
01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:38,840
weeks I mean these are it's pretty

1495
01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:40,760
simple it's not you know as complex as

1496
01:14:40,760 --> 01:14:42,520
say the Central Park Pool project or the

1497
01:14:42,520 --> 01:14:44,960
event center it's flat work uh if we

1498
01:14:44,960 --> 01:14:47,080
were allowed to give them the site you

1499
01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,199
know close the road to one side and

1500
01:14:49,199 --> 01:14:50,719
allow them to work they probably work

1501
01:14:50,719 --> 01:14:51,880
pretty expediently it wouldn't be the

1502
01:14:51,880 --> 01:14:54,520
same amount but 3 weeks maybe only 3

1503
01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:56,679
weeks longer um Granite curb is

1504
01:14:56,679 --> 01:14:58,960
available so that's good the lighting is

1505
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:00,880
a little tricky because we probably have

1506
01:15:00,880 --> 01:15:02,320
to replace the lighting which gets

1507
01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:04,199
involved with now we're metering the

1508
01:15:04,199 --> 01:15:05,920
lights because we probably take

1509
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,239
ownership of the lights and doing a

1510
01:15:07,239 --> 01:15:08,800
little bit so maybe putting a a

1511
01:15:08,800 --> 01:15:10,199
different kind of light in there like a

1512
01:15:10,199 --> 01:15:14,239
park light um so it's not it's not as

1513
01:15:14,239 --> 01:15:16,880
simple as it seems like every time we do

1514
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,880
a sidewalk program they're getting more

1515
01:15:18,880 --> 01:15:20,960
complex not less complex I haven't

1516
01:15:20,960 --> 01:15:22,719
figure that out yet cuz it's not you

1517
01:15:22,719 --> 01:15:24,040
know that many streets like this but

1518
01:15:24,040 --> 01:15:32,360
this is a complex project uh it's also expensive uh you know for a neighborhood street and the

1519
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:35,639
impacts are are going to be large to the residents because what we would

1520
01:15:35,639 --> 01:15:37,320
like to do what we're recommending is

1521
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,080
that we would expand essentially to the

1522
01:15:40,080 --> 01:15:42,800
West the side where the alley is because

1523
01:15:42,800 --> 01:15:45,320
it's flat so that we would essentially

1524
01:15:45,320 --> 01:15:47,280
hold the side with the hill and expand

1525
01:15:47,280 --> 01:15:49,239
West so the The Neighbors on the west

1526
01:15:49,239 --> 01:15:51,280
side with the alley would be impacted a

1527
01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:52,520
little bit more than the Neighbors on

1528
01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:55,679
the other side because we think that would be the best for the economy

1529
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:59,040
of scale um so that we're not cutting

1530
01:15:59,040 --> 01:16:00,440
into the hill and affecting there's a

1531
01:16:00,440 --> 01:16:02,120
retaining wall and stairs and some

1532
01:16:02,120 --> 01:16:03,639
things on the on the east side of the

1533
01:16:03,639 --> 01:16:04,880
roadway but these are all just things

1534
01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,840
that we've looked at we have a lot of

1535
01:16:06,840 --> 01:16:09,159
information um and we're just waiting on

1536
01:16:09,159 --> 01:16:12,400
a call to have a public meeting with the residents which we actually

1537
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:14,840
don't have not had a format to do we've

1538
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:18,000
done that or via zoom and I think that

1539
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:19,679
Mr mut and you called that together

1540
01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:21,520
before we we can do one you can do one

1541
01:16:21,520 --> 01:16:25,360
of that should get them informed did you

1542
01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:26,920
want to are you are you plan on doing

1543
01:16:26,920 --> 01:16:28,440
Zoom again though with are you going to

1544
01:16:28,440 --> 01:16:31,440
try we can do either Zoom or whatever is

1545
01:16:31,440 --> 01:16:32,880
preferred I will reach out to the

1546
01:16:32,880 --> 01:16:35,960
residents and prefer will do infor or

1547
01:16:35,960 --> 01:16:39,159
Zoom whatever the choice I would suggest

1548
01:16:39,159 --> 01:16:42,080
an iners meeting okay I think it would

1549
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:44,520
be better if people are a lot of elderly

1550
01:16:44,520 --> 01:16:46,480
they're having a hard time with this

1551
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:49,199
it's complicated lot of the

1552
01:16:49,199 --> 01:16:53,719
resents so AR we'll arrange um since you

1553
01:16:53,719 --> 01:16:55,239
the point person we'll arrange an in

1554
01:16:55,239 --> 01:16:57,800
person meeting and get some schedule

1555
01:16:57,800 --> 01:17:00,760
some some timeline and provide it to the

1556
01:17:00,760 --> 01:17:02,370
staff and the city council and the

1557
01:17:02,370 --> 01:17:03,520
[Music]

1558
01:17:03,520 --> 01:17:05,360
administration Mr William you have a

1559
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:06,760
question yes uh so putting on my

1560
01:17:06,760 --> 01:17:09,159
resident uh frequent driver in scany had

1561
01:17:09,159 --> 01:17:11,400
on uh it's nothing more depressing than

1562
01:17:11,400 --> 01:17:13,120
seeing these efforts put forth they

1563
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:15,040
repaying streets similar to Eerie

1564
01:17:15,040 --> 01:17:17,120
Boulevard and uh if you wouldn't mind

1565
01:17:17,120 --> 01:17:20,000
just educating uh and then seeing the

1566
01:17:20,000 --> 01:17:22,320
utility companies or seeing sections of

1567
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,080
the roads torn up and then having to

1568
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:27,960
kind of do a a so use the proper

1569
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:30,800
language just peace mealing pwk

1570
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,960
Patchwork Patchwork job which sort of

1571
01:17:33,960 --> 01:17:36,040
kind of like negates the whole intent of

1572
01:17:36,040 --> 01:17:39,040
redoing it is there any instance where

1573
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:41,760
that is going to be an issue with this

1574
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:43,880
on this project uh Central Parkway has

1575
01:17:43,880 --> 01:17:46,239
been completed uh the parkway streets

1576
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:48,080
have been um we try to have

1577
01:17:48,080 --> 01:17:50,040
coordinations with National Grid

1578
01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:51,560
coordination meeting at the beginning of

1579
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:55,080
every year the issue becomes it's just

1580
01:17:55,080 --> 01:17:57,520
um they have so many miles they do about

1581
01:17:57,520 --> 01:18:00,120
8 Miles so they essentially put as many

1582
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,480
miles of pipe in as we pave streets and

1583
01:18:02,480 --> 01:18:06,360
as much as that we like to overlap and plan there is

1584
01:18:06,360 --> 01:18:09,800
always an outlier um and so some of the

1585
01:18:09,800 --> 01:18:12,040
commercial streets for example this is

1586
01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:13,840
uh you know one of the things that we're

1587
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:15,920
looking at is I know that Upper Union

1588
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,600
Street business district is becoming

1589
01:18:18,600 --> 01:18:21,000
Warn and that sooner than later we will

1590
01:18:21,000 --> 01:18:23,520
be getting complaints about Paving that

1591
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:25,360
so that is an area that National Grid

1592
01:18:25,360 --> 01:18:27,679
has not yet been in so we are working

1593
01:18:27,679 --> 01:18:29,239
with National Grid to get in there and

1594
01:18:29,239 --> 01:18:31,560
do it so that they can disrupt it and

1595
01:18:31,560 --> 01:18:34,760
then we can come in and make it whole um

1596
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:38,840
and that is what we try to do um but we

1597
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,000
are not successful in every turn uh and

1598
01:18:41,000 --> 01:18:44,239
then sometimes there was a issue uh on

1599
01:18:44,239 --> 01:18:45,960
Albany Street where they actually had to

1600
01:18:45,960 --> 01:18:48,080
put in a second main cuz the first main

1601
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:49,440
didn't adequately Supply the

1602
01:18:49,440 --> 01:18:51,800
neighborhood with gas there was an issue

1603
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,239
on De camp uh where I was there and we

1604
01:18:55,239 --> 01:18:56,800
ran out of gas and they had to put an

1605
01:18:56,800 --> 01:18:58,520
emergency gas line in to connect to

1606
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:01,120
service more gas so there things that

1607
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:03,400
come up and we do get a lot of

1608
01:19:03,400 --> 01:19:04,920
complaints about National Grid

1609
01:19:04,920 --> 01:19:07,239
specifically right up behind me here on

1610
01:19:07,239 --> 01:19:09,600
not Terrace where we did a Paving job to

1611
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:11,440
have them come and do a reinforcement

1612
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,719
there um

1613
01:19:13,719 --> 01:19:16,719
and I I guess not to you know complain

1614
01:19:16,719 --> 01:19:19,120
about it more but these are you know an

1615
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,639
$8 million project that requires

1616
01:19:21,639 --> 01:19:24,639
coordination and I have a staff of two

1617
01:19:24,639 --> 01:19:28,400
now if I had a full-time Road inspector

1618
01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:31,080
that was tasked with managing grid maybe

1619
01:19:31,080 --> 01:19:32,639
that gains us you know a little bit of

1620
01:19:32,639 --> 01:19:34,600
Leverage but right now um the

1621
01:19:34,600 --> 01:19:36,239
responsibility of managing this is

1622
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:39,719
shared between myself codes signals uh

1623
01:19:39,719 --> 01:19:41,080
you know Metroplex sometimes gets

1624
01:19:41,080 --> 01:19:43,400
involved with complaints uh we we've had

1625
01:19:43,400 --> 01:19:45,239
complaints from County legislators you

1626
01:19:45,239 --> 01:19:47,480
know we all kind of team to try to

1627
01:19:47,480 --> 01:19:49,880
supervise that because there's not one

1628
01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:52,239
person that's tasked with it and that is

1629
01:19:52,239 --> 01:19:54,239
a difficult because for them National

1630
01:19:54,239 --> 01:19:55,760
grd has about as many people in this

1631
01:19:55,760 --> 01:19:59,520
room managing that project and we don't

1632
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:03,199
so it is challenging but and we hear

1633
01:20:03,199 --> 01:20:05,600
about it but for Central Parkway we're

1634
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,440
not going to allow them to to go in and

1635
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,440
rip we'll make sure that the the gas Ms

1636
01:20:09,440 --> 01:20:12,760
are done and if it seemed as if I was

1637
01:20:12,760 --> 01:20:14,600
just I I truly appreciate the work your

1638
01:20:14,600 --> 01:20:17,320
office no it's okay I I it pains me just

1639
01:20:17,320 --> 01:20:19,000
as much but you get numb to it after 10

1640
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:21,760
years ripping the road

1641
01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:24,520
apart I just want to add that when we um

1642
01:20:24,520 --> 01:20:26,239
when we allocated a million dollar last

1643
01:20:26,239 --> 01:20:29,159
year I think um we had set aside $55 per

1644
01:20:29,159 --> 01:20:31,600
linear feed I think at that point in

1645
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:33,960
time if I'm not mistaken we set aside

1646
01:20:33,960 --> 01:20:36,800
$55 pinear feed for basic sidewalk not

1647
01:20:36,800 --> 01:20:39,320
for a project that is so complex like

1648
01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:42,280
Central Parkway so we might want to

1649
01:20:42,280 --> 01:20:45,960
reconsider that portion of either $55 or

1650
01:20:45,960 --> 01:20:48,000
up it a little because of the

1651
01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:50,560
complex this project being so complex

1652
01:20:50,560 --> 01:20:53,880
but with including Island we moving ra

1653
01:20:53,880 --> 01:20:57,120
expanding it if we were to go the full

1654
01:20:57,120 --> 01:21:00,520
design $1.2 million correct we might

1655
01:21:00,520 --> 01:21:02,159
want that would be that would be the

1656
01:21:02,159 --> 01:21:04,159
prerogative of the city council I'm

1657
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:05,719
Comfort I'm just thr that on table

1658
01:21:05,719 --> 01:21:08,239
because I'm comfortable in the $55 a

1659
01:21:08,239 --> 01:21:12,520
foot for the residents yes Miss oh sorry

1660
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:15,560
um I guess I when I my understanding

1661
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,480
when we did that I thought that that was

1662
01:21:17,480 --> 01:21:18,679
you know we were trying to keep it at

1663
01:21:18,679 --> 01:21:21,520
the $55 for our residents regardless of

1664
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,159
the of the um

1665
01:21:23,159 --> 01:21:25,800
project but I think um and I would

1666
01:21:25,800 --> 01:21:28,480
support staying at the $55 I mean I

1667
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:30,199
think that's we had a lot of discussions

1668
01:21:30,199 --> 01:21:33,040
at that point um around this issue but I

1669
01:21:33,040 --> 01:21:37,239
guess when there is a public meeting um

1670
01:21:37,239 --> 01:21:39,480
if that's if that's not going to be the

1671
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:41,480
case I think we would need to have you

1672
01:21:41,480 --> 01:21:44,280
know ducks in a row by the time of that

1673
01:21:44,280 --> 01:21:46,520
public meeting because I just don't want

1674
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,560
to see see us going back to what

1675
01:21:48,560 --> 01:21:50,960
happened when first we started I mean I

1676
01:21:50,960 --> 01:21:52,159
wasn't on the council when we first

1677
01:21:52,159 --> 01:21:54,440
started sidewalk program but I certainly

1678
01:21:54,440 --> 01:21:57,920
remember um the issues that we had when

1679
01:21:57,920 --> 01:22:00,480
you know folks expected one um amount of

1680
01:22:00,480 --> 01:22:02,040
money that they were going to be charged

1681
01:22:02,040 --> 01:22:03,360
and then they got charged a different

1682
01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:05,159
amount of money so I think the idea that

1683
01:22:05,159 --> 01:22:06,600
we were trying to

1684
01:22:06,600 --> 01:22:10,120
standardize um you know I I think it's

1685
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:12,880
still really valid yeah no my and I just

1686
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,120
want to add to that because we only

1687
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:15,719
allocated a million dollars toward

1688
01:22:15,719 --> 01:22:18,480
sidewalk so if we were to the Central

1689
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:21,760
Parkway that's a million 1.5 so we might

1690
01:22:21,760 --> 01:22:23,719
we would have to

1691
01:22:23,719 --> 01:22:25,360
reallocate more money towards the

1692
01:22:25,360 --> 01:22:27,920
sidewalk um program there for Central

1693
01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:30,840
Parkway only which exceed our allocation

1694
01:22:30,840 --> 01:22:33,400
of $1 million set asde so that's why I

1695
01:22:33,400 --> 01:22:36,360
want to bring that to us to brainstorm

1696
01:22:36,360 --> 01:22:38,199
and we did we've done the number so the

1697
01:22:38,199 --> 01:22:40,280
estimate is is let's say we went and and

1698
01:22:40,280 --> 01:22:42,320
this is also from a residential

1699
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:43,639
perspective you're paying the same no

1700
01:22:43,639 --> 01:22:45,920
matter what option so there is no

1701
01:22:45,920 --> 01:22:47,480
consequence of picking whatever option

1702
01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:49,800
because the 55 is the 55 that's what I

1703
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:52,639
think right okay so and then that

1704
01:22:52,639 --> 01:22:54,520
translates to roughly the entire block

1705
01:22:54,520 --> 01:22:56,360
putting forward roughly

1706
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:58,920
$175,000 would be the assessment on the

1707
01:22:58,920 --> 01:23:03,880
1.2 million so then the the Gap is a

1708
01:23:03,880 --> 01:23:06,480
little over a million

1709
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:08,679
dollar

1710
01:23:08,679 --> 01:23:11,560
so if we were to S to 55 we would have

1711
01:23:11,560 --> 01:23:13,880
to reallocate additional funding right

1712
01:23:13,880 --> 01:23:15,280
so you know I want to bring that to the

1713
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,120
table so we are aware of that if we

1714
01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:20,960
decide to move on that um

1715
01:23:20,960 --> 01:23:23,159
fee okay

1716
01:23:23,159 --> 01:23:26,080
so in terms of timeline um Mr

1717
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:30,560
W I'm I'm ready you ready I'm ready yep

1718
01:23:30,560 --> 01:23:32,159
Ready schedule the meeting and we'll be

1719
01:23:32,159 --> 01:23:35,840
there yeah so if I may so let me just

1720
01:23:35,840 --> 01:23:38,239
understand the 1 million if you leave it

1721
01:23:38,239 --> 01:23:40,560
at that that means no reconstruction

1722
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:42,400
you'll just put it back the way it is no

1723
01:23:42,400 --> 01:23:44,159
it's a reconstruction but it goes back

1724
01:23:44,159 --> 01:23:45,400
the way it actually would probably be a

1725
01:23:45,400 --> 01:23:47,719
little narrower it would be within the

1726
01:23:47,719 --> 01:23:50,159
footprint but no parking but that's the

1727
01:23:50,159 --> 01:23:52,920
issue the parking is an issue for the

1728
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,400
residents on my side um the cars are

1729
01:23:56,400 --> 01:23:58,639
getting hit we're getting tickets

1730
01:23:58,639 --> 01:24:00,679
there's large vehicles that come up and

1731
01:24:00,679 --> 01:24:02,880
down

1732
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:06,000
Park okay so um yeah but that's the kind

1733
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:07,560
of stuff thank you those a good point to

1734
01:24:07,560 --> 01:24:08,560
bring up that's why they're going to

1735
01:24:08,560 --> 01:24:10,040
have the public meeting because that's

1736
01:24:10,040 --> 01:24:12,120
when that that's that discussion will

1737
01:24:12,120 --> 01:24:14,239
take place and you can decide what is

1738
01:24:14,239 --> 01:24:16,199
best for the yeah and there'll be other

1739
01:24:16,199 --> 01:24:20,800
people obviously there at the meeting to voice their and then I'm sure the

1740
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:23,320
public can come not just Central par

1741
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:25,239
and then before we even do anything with

1742
01:24:25,239 --> 01:24:26,520
these petitions I believe there's a

1743
01:24:26,520 --> 01:24:27,719
public

1744
01:24:27,719 --> 01:24:29,920
hearing so that there's a public hearing

1745
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:31,360
so that other residents once it's

1746
01:24:31,360 --> 01:24:33,560
decided can Advocate if they think that

1747
01:24:33,560 --> 01:24:35,639
this is an investment you know there

1748
01:24:35,639 --> 01:24:38,560
it's it's a process yeah yeah we'll try

1749
01:24:38,560 --> 01:24:40,520
to schedule the inperson meeting and

1750
01:24:40,520 --> 01:24:42,920
then we move forward from there and then

1751
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,320
schedule U the public hearing and all

1752
01:24:45,320 --> 01:24:48,199
the necessary um right items that need

1753
01:24:48,199 --> 01:24:49,800
to be put in place to move forward with

1754
01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:52,159
this project so we won't make decisions

1755
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:53,639
we the council will not make decisions

1756
01:24:53,639 --> 01:24:55,320
without public input so I don't want

1757
01:24:55,320 --> 01:24:57,159
that to be a concern for you what's our

1758
01:24:57,159 --> 01:25:00,080
timeline with that the last meeting we

1759
01:25:00,080 --> 01:25:03,159
had last year okay so Mr moonar is going

1760
01:25:03,159 --> 01:25:05,400
to reach out and they're going to set a

1761
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:06,880
meeting we'll try to schedule something

1762
01:25:06,880 --> 01:25:09,320
as fast as we can okay before somebody

1763
01:25:09,320 --> 01:25:12,719
gets killed on the Block cuz around D

1764
01:25:12,719 --> 01:25:16,679
ni's House That Sidewalk is really

1765
01:25:16,679 --> 01:25:20,159
bad micophone you can't

1766
01:25:20,159 --> 01:25:22,320
hear all right no cuz then we don't

1767
01:25:22,320 --> 01:25:23,840
we're going to do it as best as we can

1768
01:25:23,840 --> 01:25:25,920
as Mr W mentioned he's ready to go we'll

1769
01:25:25,920 --> 01:25:28,320
just need input from the the resident

1770
01:25:28,320 --> 01:25:30,719
and then the council need to do right we

1771
01:25:30,719 --> 01:25:33,080
need to get our action in order and move

1772
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:36,320
forward right okay so we'll take care of

1773
01:25:36,320 --> 01:25:39,880
that thank you uh any other questions no

1774
01:25:39,880 --> 01:25:43,310
all right okay

1775
01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,679
you so thank you for indulging so you

1776
01:25:45,679 --> 01:25:50,510
guys get home

1777
01:25:50,520 --> 01:25:53,840
safe so the first item on the agenda is

1778
01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,199
fcal house

1779
01:25:55,199 --> 01:25:59,470
car Miss

1780
01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:03,440
car good evening city council Mr Mayor

1781
01:26:03,440 --> 01:26:05,520
um the department of development and

1782
01:26:05,520 --> 01:26:07,520
planning received a request from the

1783
01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,880
Coco house asking that the city council

1784
01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,600
revisit um their presentation that was

1785
01:26:13,600 --> 01:26:15,480
presented in September of

1786
01:26:15,480 --> 01:26:19,239
2023 asking for a change in use of fund

1787
01:26:19,239 --> 01:26:22,560
Coco house is asking that the $500,000 a

1788
01:26:22,560 --> 01:26:24,880
fund allocated to them be used for

1789
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,000
salary and fr they provided an updated

1790
01:26:28,000 --> 01:26:30,560
layout on how those funds would support

1791
01:26:30,560 --> 01:26:32,880
salaries um I believe there are six

1792
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,880
employees one of them including the

1793
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:38,440
executive um director in addition to

1794
01:26:38,440 --> 01:26:40,320
that they are also asking for the

1795
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:43,280
leverage fund requirement included in

1796
01:26:43,280 --> 01:26:45,320
the resolution be removed to move

1797
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:50,590
forward with

1798
01:26:50,600 --> 01:26:53,880
contract all right um so as Miss Carver

1799
01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:55,920
laid out they initially were going to

1800
01:26:55,920 --> 01:26:58,520
asking for 500,000 to do some

1801
01:26:58,520 --> 01:27:03,199
construction work however um after

1802
01:27:03,199 --> 01:27:04,440
because it took so long for their

1803
01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:06,520
allocation they were able to get that

1804
01:27:06,520 --> 01:27:07,920
funding other

1805
01:27:07,920 --> 01:27:10,600
places and so now they're asking that

1806
01:27:10,600 --> 01:27:13,000
the what we initially allocated towards

1807
01:27:13,000 --> 01:27:16,239
that would now be moved over um to to

1808
01:27:16,239 --> 01:27:19,880
use for salaries right all right when

1809
01:27:19,880 --> 01:27:22,719
the last time they were there um I and

1810
01:27:22,719 --> 01:27:24,840
everyone did you give this to everyone

1811
01:27:24,840 --> 01:27:26,159
for in terms of the layout of the

1812
01:27:26,159 --> 01:27:28,520
salaries that we have this here

1813
01:27:28,520 --> 01:27:31,800
no all right so the one of the things

1814
01:27:31,800 --> 01:27:32,960
that they came the last time when they

1815
01:27:32,960 --> 01:27:34,880
asked for the allocation of the salar

1816
01:27:34,880 --> 01:27:37,679
was that the 100,000 be all of it be

1817
01:27:37,679 --> 01:27:40,600
towards the salary for the executive

1818
01:27:40,600 --> 01:27:42,840
director um and then the other salaries

1819
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:44,119
I don't really they didn't really lay

1820
01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:46,480
out how they were going to um to pay

1821
01:27:46,480 --> 01:27:49,040
that and what I asked at that time was

1822
01:27:49,040 --> 01:27:51,000
if you could just if there's a way that

1823
01:27:51,000 --> 01:27:52,920
there could you in addition to the money

1824
01:27:52,920 --> 01:27:54,920
that we would allocate that there would

1825
01:27:54,920 --> 01:27:56,639
be other funding to go towards that so

1826
01:27:56,639 --> 01:27:58,840
not all of the funding our funding went

1827
01:27:58,840 --> 01:28:00,760
towards um just executive director

1828
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:05,320
salary and I was told at the time that would happen I haven't seen that so

1829
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:08,679
um I'm not opposed to reallocating uh

1830
01:28:08,679 --> 01:28:10,320
toward salaries but I think the

1831
01:28:10,320 --> 01:28:11,840
structure of it needs to be taken in

1832
01:28:11,840 --> 01:28:15,600
consideration of how we structure

1833
01:28:15,600 --> 01:28:18,960
it Miss Patrick I think um well don't

1834
01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:20,679
you mean I mean they have provided us

1835
01:28:20,679 --> 01:28:26,560
with how they would allocate the the funding so um I mean I'm in

1836
01:28:26,560 --> 01:28:28,239
favor of this I I want to point out that

1837
01:28:28,239 --> 01:28:30,520
it's not I mean the idea is

1838
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:33,159
that we remember that we're trying to do

1839
01:28:33,159 --> 01:28:35,600
an expansion of their program offerings

1840
01:28:35,600 --> 01:28:37,360
so it's not just about it is about

1841
01:28:37,360 --> 01:28:38,920
salary I get that that that's they're

1842
01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:40,400
spending the money but they're doing it

1843
01:28:40,400 --> 01:28:42,639
because they want to expand the options

1844
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:44,159
that they're providing to the youth that

1845
01:28:44,159 --> 01:28:46,760
they Ser so I just want to make sure we

1846
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:50,639
get that on the record here um but I

1847
01:28:50,639 --> 01:28:52,760
don't I I guess if we we are to move

1848
01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:55,560
forward with this I don't want to you

1849
01:28:55,560 --> 01:28:57,639
know sort of uh I don't know better word

1850
01:28:57,639 --> 01:28:58,960
use but I don't think we need to

1851
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:01,840
micromanage what they do internally I I

1852
01:29:01,840 --> 01:29:05,199
don't know um I I'm I'm satisfied with

1853
01:29:05,199 --> 01:29:07,000
the way that they have laid it out here

1854
01:29:07,000 --> 01:29:08,800
on this chart that they provided well

1855
01:29:08,800 --> 01:29:10,840
this is new it wasn't laid out like this

1856
01:29:10,840 --> 01:29:12,639
before before Oh no okay I guess I

1857
01:29:12,639 --> 01:29:15,040
thought you just were I thought you were

1858
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,159
looking for more information no no

1859
01:29:17,159 --> 01:29:19,480
originally it was laid out that um the

1860
01:29:19,480 --> 01:29:21,679
entire amount that would come from arpa

1861
01:29:21,679 --> 01:29:23,440
would go only towards the executive

1862
01:29:23,440 --> 01:29:25,159
director's

1863
01:29:25,159 --> 01:29:28,159
salary right so what I was saying is if

1864
01:29:28,159 --> 01:29:30,159
we're going to provide that salary that

1865
01:29:30,159 --> 01:29:31,600
it needs and you're you're planning on

1866
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,119
bringing in all these different other

1867
01:29:33,119 --> 01:29:35,880
positions that don't currently exist

1868
01:29:35,880 --> 01:29:37,480
that that amount that we allocate should

1869
01:29:37,480 --> 01:29:40,119
be spread amongst all of those those

1870
01:29:40,119 --> 01:29:41,960
positions so those people actually we

1871
01:29:41,960 --> 01:29:43,520
make sure that there's salary for when

1872
01:29:43,520 --> 01:29:47,719
they're hired gotcha okay so that was my question so that is my only

1873
01:29:47,719 --> 01:29:49,760
concern that we we spread it out this

1874
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:52,880
answers that for my in my opinion

1875
01:29:52,880 --> 01:29:55,560
does the arbor fund allow to draw down 3

1876
01:29:55,560 --> 01:29:58,639
years from now the salar um it has to be

1877
01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:01,960
allocated by the end of 2024 this year

1878
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:05,080
and then has to be spent by the end of

1879
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:08,840
2026 so um we're already in 2024 and by

1880
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,320
the time they execute contracts it may

1881
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,960
not even be the full 500,000 just

1882
01:30:13,960 --> 01:30:15,760
because they're already I don't know

1883
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,119
that we can really um I know that we

1884
01:30:18,119 --> 01:30:20,840
cannot I should say pay retroactively so

1885
01:30:20,840 --> 01:30:22,560
it would be have to would be after the

1886
01:30:22,560 --> 01:30:26,510
contract is

1887
01:30:26,520 --> 01:30:29,600
signed yes Mr Toro um what has Coco

1888
01:30:29,600 --> 01:30:32,360
house been doing prior to this for

1889
01:30:32,360 --> 01:30:35,080
salaries they got other grants and they

1890
01:30:35,080 --> 01:30:36,520
let me just say they're getting ready to

1891
01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,719
I think it's 27 years now Mr let me just

1892
01:30:38,719 --> 01:30:41,920
be clear that Mr um Rebus was not there

1893
01:30:41,920 --> 01:30:44,159
for 27 years but since he's taken over

1894
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:45,480
it stayed open

1895
01:30:45,480 --> 01:30:49,080
consistently and you know he's uh the

1896
01:30:49,080 --> 01:30:50,400
Community Foundation I know has been a

1897
01:30:50,400 --> 01:30:52,600
part of it so they they look for money

1898
01:30:52,600 --> 01:30:54,560
in order to continue their program to

1899
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,960
run and how will they continue after

1900
01:30:57,960 --> 01:31:00,920
2026 what they did probably before 20824

1901
01:31:00,920 --> 01:31:05,199
is to continue um looking for Grants um

1902
01:31:05,199 --> 01:31:06,800
to to continue the program as many

1903
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:10,440
nonprofits in our city do absolutely and

1904
01:31:10,440 --> 01:31:13,280
what about how many how many

1905
01:31:13,280 --> 01:31:16,880
um um students is he facilitating after

1906
01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,320
school uh did he come here and speak

1907
01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,920
something about yes he did September last um

1908
01:31:22,920 --> 01:31:25,800
the r the ratio of it has gone down

1909
01:31:25,800 --> 01:31:28,760
after qu I I kind of forgot what he said

1910
01:31:28,760 --> 01:31:31,520
if you can just help me with that he the

1911
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:33,360
amount of students that are coming after

1912
01:31:33,360 --> 01:31:34,719
school has

1913
01:31:34,719 --> 01:31:37,840
decreased um he may have alluded

1914
01:31:37,840 --> 01:31:39,560
something during Co which everybody saw

1915
01:31:39,560 --> 01:31:41,520
a decrease in all programs but but

1916
01:31:41,520 --> 01:31:44,119
there's another program that's being uh

1917
01:31:44,119 --> 01:31:45,840
that's happening in the school district

1918
01:31:45,840 --> 01:31:47,560
where most of the students are going

1919
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,400
after school and his has decreased a

1920
01:31:49,400 --> 01:31:50,760
little

1921
01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:53,440
bit not familiar with that Mr far yeah

1922
01:31:53,440 --> 01:31:54,920
so I think

1923
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,840
um and just my best understanding of

1924
01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,360
what the request is to um you know again

1925
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:06,040
to uh fund uh the salaries for program

1926
01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:07,760
expansion and I think that the program

1927
01:32:07,760 --> 01:32:09,400
expansion then you expand your capacity

1928
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,400
to serve uh of the students uh that um

1929
01:32:12,400 --> 01:32:15,400
are attending cabs and I think also like

1930
01:32:15,400 --> 01:32:17,239
there are you know a lot of different

1931
01:32:17,239 --> 01:32:19,280
variables as to why you know program

1932
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,080
attendance um could increase or disc

1933
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:24,960
decrease but I think that that doesn't

1934
01:32:24,960 --> 01:32:29,080
necessarily change the um uh the ex

1935
01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:33,560
expectation for robust programming for Youth and it so I think that that

1936
01:32:33,560 --> 01:32:36,920
can um I appreciate what your

1937
01:32:36,920 --> 01:32:39,119
in my best understanding kind of

1938
01:32:39,119 --> 01:32:41,719
recollect what he was saying was that Co

1939
01:32:41,719 --> 01:32:44,280
did impact as it did all but looking to

1940
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:53,520
um increase yeah looking to increase capacity to serve uh kids in

1941
01:32:53,520 --> 01:32:55,800
Mr so so the funding here that is

1942
01:32:55,800 --> 01:32:57,400
breaking out here the back here is that

1943
01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,239
the full funding in terms of the salary

1944
01:32:59,239 --> 01:33:04,040
allocation here yes so they're asking us

1945
01:33:04,040 --> 01:33:07,440
to readjust the allocation the

1946
01:33:07,440 --> 01:33:10,080
allocation and to fund

1947
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:13,320
these the Staffing position full time

1948
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:15,920
two full-time and four part-time part

1949
01:33:15,920 --> 01:33:18,480
time is so the question to follow by

1950
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:19,480
that is

1951
01:33:19,480 --> 01:33:22,119
that if we were

1952
01:33:22,119 --> 01:33:23,520
I'm just saying this if you were not a

1953
01:33:23,520 --> 01:33:25,639
fund us where would they receive the

1954
01:33:25,639 --> 01:33:27,600
funding from well in the letter of

1955
01:33:27,600 --> 01:33:29,480
support and in the presentation that

1956
01:33:29,480 --> 01:33:31,639
they presented if I recall correctly his

1957
01:33:31,639 --> 01:33:34,600
act was for him if he gets this funding

1958
01:33:34,600 --> 01:33:36,199
he can become a full-time employee

1959
01:33:36,199 --> 01:33:38,320
currently he is not full-time so that he

1960
01:33:38,320 --> 01:33:40,600
could go after the funds um for

1961
01:33:40,600 --> 01:33:42,239
sustainability after the funding and

1962
01:33:42,239 --> 01:33:43,800
then the letter of support they said

1963
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:47,239
between now and 20 27 if they would have

1964
01:33:47,239 --> 01:33:50,600
fully replenished um the arpa arpa funds

1965
01:33:50,600 --> 01:33:52,760
to move forward

1966
01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:56,199
Mr fley so and I would just uh kind of

1967
01:33:56,199 --> 01:33:58,040
maybe reate I probably see some some

1968
01:33:58,040 --> 01:34:00,520
variation of this in the past especially

1969
01:34:00,520 --> 01:34:02,800
when we're dealing with um you know

1970
01:34:02,800 --> 01:34:06,320
smaller smaller nonprofits um you know a

1971
01:34:06,320 --> 01:34:08,239
lot of times the smaller nonprofits

1972
01:34:08,239 --> 01:34:09,960
don't have the capacity they don't have

1973
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:11,639
a development department they don't have

1974
01:34:11,639 --> 01:34:12,600
some of the things that these real

1975
01:34:12,600 --> 01:34:14,960
larger big boxing field nonprofits have

1976
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,080
so and so sometimes our line of

1977
01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,719
questioning for them is a little

1978
01:34:19,719 --> 01:34:22,880
different than what it is for larger uh

1979
01:34:22,880 --> 01:34:25,040
nonprofits because they don't have that

1980
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:26,520
they don't they don't have that capacity

1981
01:34:26,520 --> 01:34:29,560
and I think that what if I again what my

1982
01:34:29,560 --> 01:34:32,199
understanding is that this money would

1983
01:34:32,199 --> 01:34:35,960
um allow uh for staff to do some

1984
01:34:35,960 --> 01:34:38,199
capacity growing capacity in order to

1985
01:34:38,199 --> 01:34:39,280
sustain you know it's kind of one of

1986
01:34:39,280 --> 01:34:41,320
those things that you can't go after

1987
01:34:41,320 --> 01:34:44,320
grant money you know as as we all know

1988
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,440
grant money is extremely competitive

1989
01:34:46,440 --> 01:34:50,040
process when you're deal competing with

1990
01:34:50,040 --> 01:34:51,880
you know a couple nonprofit Prof who

1991
01:34:51,880 --> 01:34:53,360
have full development departments and

1992
01:34:53,360 --> 01:34:55,080
people who are making just their payroll

1993
01:34:55,080 --> 01:34:57,840
the development department is uh

1994
01:34:57,840 --> 01:35:00,719
exceeding um this ass probably you know

1995
01:35:00,719 --> 01:35:02,400
twofold sometimes so I just something

1996
01:35:02,400 --> 01:35:04,679
that we should keep in mind M Patrick

1997
01:35:04,679 --> 01:35:06,800
well I'm going to say that a similar a

1998
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:08,920
similar statement which is I think that

1999
01:35:08,920 --> 01:35:11,560
um part of this is that if we grow if he

2000
01:35:11,560 --> 01:35:13,600
grows the capacity if the organization's

2001
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:16,400
able to offer more programming it is

2002
01:35:16,400 --> 01:35:19,320
going to make them more attractive to

2003
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:22,080
private funders so I think that was what

2004
01:35:22,080 --> 01:35:23,560
he was trying to present to us I mean

2005
01:35:23,560 --> 01:35:27,080
he'd have three years to uh be he's he's

2006
01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:29,280
a pretty successful fundraiser if you

2007
01:35:29,280 --> 01:35:31,360
ask me based on my experience as a

2008
01:35:31,360 --> 01:35:33,280
fundraiser um I mean I think we've all

2009
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:35,719
watched this organization grow by Leaps

2010
01:35:35,719 --> 01:35:37,679
and Bounds over the last several years

2011
01:35:37,679 --> 01:35:39,840
and a lot of that has to do with he's

2012
01:35:39,840 --> 01:35:42,360
able to show the success that he you

2013
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,719
know I think that's key to development

2014
01:35:44,719 --> 01:35:46,960
is being able to prove the outcomes that

2015
01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,719
you're you're getting um and so he's

2016
01:35:49,719 --> 01:35:51,719
been able to pretty much sustain his

2017
01:35:51,719 --> 01:35:54,800
fundraising um because he's able to show

2018
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,800
um what he accomplishes for the Youth

2019
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,639
that he is serving so I think that if he

2020
01:35:59,639 --> 01:36:02,440
is able to hire in particular I think

2021
01:36:02,440 --> 01:36:04,920
these part-time people but um if he

2022
01:36:04,920 --> 01:36:07,080
really is able to expand his program

2023
01:36:07,080 --> 01:36:08,679
offerings I think that's just going to

2024
01:36:08,679 --> 01:36:11,239
add to the level of outcomes that he's

2025
01:36:11,239 --> 01:36:12,920
going to be able to continue to show to

2026
01:36:12,920 --> 01:36:14,440
private funders I mean he gets a

2027
01:36:14,440 --> 01:36:16,840
tremendous amount of support from many

2028
01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:21,080
of our prominent uh private foundations

2029
01:36:21,080 --> 01:36:24,119
uh including the SKC Foundation um and

2030
01:36:24,119 --> 01:36:26,840
others in in the region so I think

2031
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:29,119
that's where that's how I would answer

2032
01:36:29,119 --> 01:36:31,400
that that's how I see the sustainability

2033
01:36:31,400 --> 01:36:34,440
happening after the ARA funding and I

2034
01:36:34,440 --> 01:36:36,040
guess just to quote Mr Gillan from

2035
01:36:36,040 --> 01:36:37,719
earlier but you do have to spend money

2036
01:36:37,719 --> 01:36:41,199
to make money even from a nonprofit uh

2037
01:36:41,199 --> 01:36:42,800
development standpoint I can't tell you

2038
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:47,760
how many times I argu with bosses about that particular piece that that

2039
01:36:47,760 --> 01:36:49,600
you do have to kind of you know step up

2040
01:36:49,600 --> 01:36:51,800
to the plate if you want to really grow

2041
01:36:51,800 --> 01:36:52,760
as a

2042
01:36:52,760 --> 01:36:56,400
nonprofit and I think PA go ahead Mr for

2043
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,400
Alex I know we've had issues before with

2044
01:36:58,400 --> 01:37:01,119
how we can spend our money I mean when

2045
01:37:01,119 --> 01:37:02,840
we want it to put it in our budget is

2046
01:37:02,840 --> 01:37:05,560
this acceptable Alex okay the my

2047
01:37:05,560 --> 01:37:08,600
question yes and again I want to just

2048
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:10,560
reiterate that uh they asked for funding

2049
01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:12,679
to use on a particular thing and because

2050
01:37:12,679 --> 01:37:16,880
the funding wasn't forthcoming we they went had to do it anyway and I

2051
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,199
don't know if any of you have been there

2052
01:37:18,199 --> 01:37:20,320
but the work that they wanted to do

2053
01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:22,880
actually got done and so there therefore

2054
01:37:22,880 --> 01:37:24,440
asking that you know now we still

2055
01:37:24,440 --> 01:37:26,040
support um the efforts that are being

2056
01:37:26,040 --> 01:37:28,800
done there in the community in a um a

2057
01:37:28,800 --> 01:37:31,520
much needed community that we just use

2058
01:37:31,520 --> 01:37:34,159
it in a different way so and my only

2059
01:37:34,159 --> 01:37:35,880
concern like I said was that it just not

2060
01:37:35,880 --> 01:37:37,480
all of One salary that we spread it out

2061
01:37:37,480 --> 01:37:38,760
to all the positions that they said they

2062
01:37:38,760 --> 01:37:41,669
want to

2063
01:37:41,679 --> 01:37:46,440
hire anybody else so we so at this point

2064
01:37:46,440 --> 01:37:49,199
in time we would um the the motion would

2065
01:37:49,199 --> 01:37:52,719
be to we move to take away the match is

2066
01:37:52,719 --> 01:37:54,920
what they're asking and to also to

2067
01:37:54,920 --> 01:37:58,639
reallocate this to um to use for salary

2068
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:00,159
as outlined in the document they

2069
01:38:00,159 --> 01:38:03,910
submitted to us

2070
01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:09,750
so Mr

2071
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,199
M I'm going to pass okay I'll second all

2072
01:38:13,199 --> 01:38:15,510
those in

2073
01:38:15,520 --> 01:38:19,840
favor okay all right um bcni she's going

2074
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,119
to be she's going to be up here for a

2075
01:38:22,119 --> 01:38:25,639
while um our department received a

2076
01:38:25,639 --> 01:38:27,040
request from Better Community

2077
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:28,520
neighborhoods in regards to their

2078
01:38:28,520 --> 01:38:31,440
Hamilton Hill infill are for funding

2079
01:38:31,440 --> 01:38:33,800
they are asking the city council to

2080
01:38:33,800 --> 01:38:38,199
revisit um their requests um to lower

2081
01:38:38,199 --> 01:38:40,000
the leveraged amount of funds needed to

2082
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:42,960
move forward with contract um in their

2083
01:38:42,960 --> 01:38:45,800
in the resolution they had 18 to one

2084
01:38:45,800 --> 01:38:47,440
match and they are looking to do a

2085
01:38:47,440 --> 01:38:50,080
onetoone match um and they are ready to

2086
01:38:50,080 --> 01:38:52,320
move forward with the project if that is

2087
01:38:52,320 --> 01:38:53,960
to

2088
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:57,280
be as you remember um Shane BG who is

2089
01:38:57,280 --> 01:38:59,199
the new executive director came before

2090
01:38:59,199 --> 01:39:01,920
us a few couple Cycles ago to explain

2091
01:39:01,920 --> 01:39:03,080
the project saying that we're really

2092
01:39:03,080 --> 01:39:05,280
ready to go uh when it came time to drop

2093
01:39:05,280 --> 01:39:07,320
the contract we know that what happened

2094
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:09,360
was the previous executive director made

2095
01:39:09,360 --> 01:39:12,400
a 18 to1 match for the ARA funds that we

2096
01:39:12,400 --> 01:39:15,080
were um willing to to allocate which is

2097
01:39:15,080 --> 01:39:16,560
pretty significant actually I'm

2098
01:39:16,560 --> 01:39:19,400
surprised that that was offered but um

2099
01:39:19,400 --> 01:39:22,000
but having revisiting it um and they

2100
01:39:22,000 --> 01:39:23,679
really to get this project moved for 18

2101
01:39:23,679 --> 01:39:27,520
to1 is just it's difficult to manage

2102
01:39:27,520 --> 01:39:28,800
yeah I've never heard of that never

2103
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:31,800
heard okay so um so he's just asking

2104
01:39:31,800 --> 01:39:34,480
that the match now be um one to one one

2105
01:39:34,480 --> 01:39:37,320
to one and the approval of the use of

2106
01:39:37,320 --> 01:39:39,119
arpa funds is needed for them to move

2107
01:39:39,119 --> 01:39:40,920
forward with their New York State home

2108
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:42,480
AR

2109
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:44,719
application any amount of their arpa

2110
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:46,679
funds they were getting 500 is it

2111
01:39:46,679 --> 01:39:49,560
500,000 right, and I just want to point

2112
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:53,280
out that they do have that one match SEC

2113
01:39:53,280 --> 01:39:54,480
they already have that secure they just

2114
01:39:54,480 --> 01:39:55,880
need us to move on

2115
01:39:55,880 --> 01:39:59,040
this are you scratching

2116
01:39:59,040 --> 01:40:05,560
okay so so the ask is to uh to to change

2117
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:08,679
the leverage fund amount from 8.5

2118
01:40:08,679 --> 01:40:10,679
million to

2119
01:40:10,679 --> 01:40:13,280
500,000 any discussion about

2120
01:40:13,280 --> 01:40:18,280
that any all right all motion I'm moov

2121
01:40:18,280 --> 01:40:21,679
second all in favor I

2122
01:40:21,679 --> 01:40:24,440
okay all right and now item number three

2123
01:40:24,440 --> 01:40:26,719
is going to be a followup on arpa follow

2124
01:40:26,719 --> 01:40:28,679
up on arpa

2125
01:40:28,679 --> 01:40:31,960
okay we are almost

2126
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:34,719
there we are

2127
01:40:34,719 --> 01:40:39,440
95% um in contract with all uh approved

2128
01:40:39,440 --> 01:40:42,000
organizations with the exception of

2129
01:40:42,000 --> 01:40:44,159
those who have requested

2130
01:40:44,159 --> 01:40:47,360
extension those extensions are as

2131
01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:50,040
follows and our department is actively

2132
01:40:50,040 --> 01:40:52,320
working with these organizations already

2133
01:40:52,320 --> 01:40:54,800
to make sure that um they have what they

2134
01:40:54,800 --> 01:40:57,480
need by the time their extension expires

2135
01:40:57,480 --> 01:41:01,599
we have Coco house bcni Electric City

2136
01:41:01,599 --> 01:41:04,599
Co-Op and YWCA extensions will be

2137
01:41:04,599 --> 01:41:07,679
expiring on March 12th

2138
01:41:07,679 --> 01:41:10,840
2024 the only contract that is not been

2139
01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,520
a we have not executed is the Habitat

2140
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:15,840
for Humanity contract and that is

2141
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,800
because habitat still has additional

2142
01:41:18,800 --> 01:41:21,280
funding sources spread all around that

2143
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:23,480
they have un been unsuccessful with

2144
01:41:23,480 --> 01:41:26,159
spending down at this time so once we

2145
01:41:26,159 --> 01:41:29,040
can get them with the strategy to spend

2146
01:41:29,040 --> 01:41:30,639
down the money we'll move forward with

2147
01:41:30,639 --> 01:41:33,639
executing the ARA contract but our staff

2148
01:41:33,639 --> 01:41:35,840
is working with them actively right now

2149
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:37,719
and this is really surrounding the New

2150
01:41:37,719 --> 01:41:39,719
York State um home funding that they

2151
01:41:39,719 --> 01:41:42,199
have so they have a lot of money kind of

2152
01:41:42,199 --> 01:41:44,560
sitting on a table right

2153
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:47,360
now U the Coco house which just did the

2154
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:49,719
presentation the 12th BC and I will be

2155
01:41:49,719 --> 01:41:52,000
moving forward before their extension is

2156
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:54,360
up the Electric City Co-Op the

2157
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:56,040
department has met with them to see what

2158
01:41:56,040 --> 01:41:57,960
their plans are and making sure that we

2159
01:41:57,960 --> 01:41:59,920
just give them all the necessary um

2160
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:01,920
tools that they need to present if they

2161
01:42:01,920 --> 01:42:03,480
need another extension or just be

2162
01:42:03,480 --> 01:42:05,840
prepared to move forward after March

2163
01:42:05,840 --> 01:42:08,560
well Electric City

2164
01:42:08,560 --> 01:42:14,080
Co-Op and the YW and YWCA YWCA has an

2165
01:42:14,080 --> 01:42:15,760
extension and then they requested

2166
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:18,639
additional fund arpa funding we did put

2167
01:42:18,639 --> 01:42:23,080
a request into the executive director to get that um request formally in

2168
01:42:23,080 --> 01:42:25,760
writing so once I get that request I'll

2169
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:27,679
be able to do a legislative request for

2170
01:42:27,679 --> 01:42:29,679
it right did you me to Bethesda I'm

2171
01:42:29,679 --> 01:42:31,679
sorry if I missed it Bethesda no didn't

2172
01:42:31,679 --> 01:42:33,560
get Toda I'm sorry I'm sorry Bethesda is

2173
01:42:33,560 --> 01:42:35,280
in

2174
01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:38,440
contract um you read did you mention a

2175
01:42:38,440 --> 01:42:41,440
miracle and Craig I missed it or do you

2176
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:44,080
have any up I didn't get there yet

2177
01:42:44,080 --> 01:42:46,400
Mr I thought you were up I just was

2178
01:42:46,400 --> 01:42:49,760
talking about the ones who had the

2179
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:52,239
extension they have an EXT they had an

2180
01:42:52,239 --> 01:42:54,320
extension but with okay she's going to

2181
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:58,280
get to it mirac miracu on Craig will not

2182
01:42:58,280 --> 01:43:01,080
be moving forward they have put in a

2183
01:43:01,080 --> 01:43:03,639
formal request to remove to transfer

2184
01:43:03,639 --> 01:43:07,520
title back to the city of skty so our

2185
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:10,320
department is working with law um to

2186
01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:14,910
ensure that that happens

2187
01:43:14,920 --> 01:43:16,800
properly mayor do you have anything you

2188
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:18,599
want to say about that

2189
01:43:18,599 --> 01:43:21,719
you okay at this point we're yeah

2190
01:43:21,719 --> 01:43:24,040
working then we'll take title back I

2191
01:43:24,040 --> 01:43:26,360
shouldn't say we take title say a use

2192
01:43:26,360 --> 01:43:28,920
agreement so that we'll clear that up

2193
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:32,560
and then uh uh Alex is looking at other

2194
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:35,800
scenarios and we'll try and see what the

2195
01:43:35,800 --> 01:43:37,400
future of that building

2196
01:43:37,400 --> 01:43:40,239
is we we have an appointment to go look

2197
01:43:40,239 --> 01:43:42,840
into we're meeting with Rosa and we're

2198
01:43:42,840 --> 01:43:45,560
meeting with t Maurice myself and Rod

2199
01:43:45,560 --> 01:43:47,159
Garner we are going to view the

2200
01:43:47,159 --> 01:43:49,880
properties and the additional um

2201
01:43:49,880 --> 01:43:51,199
properties that are associated with

2202
01:43:51,199 --> 01:43:53,960
marac break sometime next week okay Miss

2203
01:43:53,960 --> 01:43:57,760
Patrick so the can you remind me Alex um

2204
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:00,040
the funding was like 2.5

2205
01:44:00,040 --> 01:44:02,040
million2 what is

2206
01:44:02,040 --> 01:44:07,760
it2 1.2 1.25 okay so that money would

2207
01:44:07,760 --> 01:44:10,320
come back to us in terms of well we're

2208
01:44:10,320 --> 01:44:13,960
not sure yet we're going to have to so let me just um state that part of

2209
01:44:13,960 --> 01:44:15,239
this project and I think we all knew

2210
01:44:15,239 --> 01:44:16,520
that the community was really looking

2211
01:44:16,520 --> 01:44:19,159
for a community center and um there have

2212
01:44:19,159 --> 01:44:21,520
been and there not for conversation so

2213
01:44:21,520 --> 01:44:23,920
there's there's only so much that um I

2214
01:44:23,920 --> 01:44:26,040
can talk about um but there's other

2215
01:44:26,040 --> 01:44:29,400
groups who as that was working with mlc

2216
01:44:29,400 --> 01:44:31,400
that didn't have they weren't totally

2217
01:44:31,400 --> 01:44:34,080
formalized yet um kind of found out

2218
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,520
about this afterwards and so that that

2219
01:44:36,520 --> 01:44:38,239
group was thought through their moving

2220
01:44:38,239 --> 01:44:41,000
ahead so more conversations will have to

2221
01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,560
take place in terms of does that group

2222
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:43,960
take it over and what does it look like

2223
01:44:43,960 --> 01:44:46,239
with the city working and I'm not sure

2224
01:44:46,239 --> 01:44:47,679
what that looks like so it's it's very

2225
01:44:47,679 --> 01:44:49,560
informal conversations right

2226
01:44:49,560 --> 01:44:54,280
now the SKC Kanas house declined their

2227
01:44:54,280 --> 01:44:55,840
funding they had

2228
01:44:55,840 --> 01:44:59,040
$110,000 in ARA funds that was allocated

2229
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:01,560
and they we went we sent over the

2230
01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:03,480
contract and they declined and said they

2231
01:45:03,480 --> 01:45:05,679
would not like to move forward they were

2232
01:45:05,679 --> 01:45:07,360
building benches

2233
01:45:07,360 --> 01:45:11,119
room tables okay they

2234
01:45:11,119 --> 01:45:16,159
did I know and lastly um we received a

2235
01:45:16,159 --> 01:45:19,840
formal request from the Bethesda house

2236
01:45:19,840 --> 01:45:22,679
um who was currently in contract um they

2237
01:45:22,679 --> 01:45:25,239
receive funding towards the car house

2238
01:45:25,239 --> 01:45:27,840
they are looking for an additional

2239
01:45:27,840 --> 01:45:32,159
$200,000 and arpa funding um to pay some

2240
01:45:32,159 --> 01:45:37,910
outstanding um bills associated with the car

2241
01:45:37,920 --> 01:45:40,920
house so um go ahead Mr I think you're

2242
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:43,520
probably to ask the same question retro

2243
01:45:43,520 --> 01:45:47,719
payments retro payments no oh sorry my

2244
01:45:47,719 --> 01:45:49,080
question is I think we ran into a

2245
01:45:49,080 --> 01:45:51,000
similar scenario with the

2246
01:45:51,000 --> 01:45:55,679
um Can U pro um can they is that

2247
01:45:55,679 --> 01:45:58,440
appropriate use them to submit the they

2248
01:45:58,440 --> 01:46:00,360
haven't I haven't seen the dates of the

2249
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,639
invoices yet but their contract is still

2250
01:46:02,639 --> 01:46:04,840
valid okay so if it has happened within

2251
01:46:04,840 --> 01:46:08,320
the last 12 months um it would be

2252
01:46:08,320 --> 01:46:13,040
acceptable use thank you um so there's some other things that um some

2253
01:46:13,040 --> 01:46:14,080
emails that we've receiv received

2254
01:46:14,080 --> 01:46:16,679
regarding beesa house so I think and

2255
01:46:16,679 --> 01:46:18,080
since they're under contract any

2256
01:46:18,080 --> 01:46:20,520
discussion about that would want to do

2257
01:46:20,520 --> 01:46:23,719
an executive session so um I would

2258
01:46:23,719 --> 01:46:25,360
suggest that we just discuss the rest of

2259
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:28,560
it in executive session yes Mr turo

2260
01:46:28,560 --> 01:46:31,080
thank you um Alex you spoke about um

2261
01:46:31,080 --> 01:46:34,040
someone wanting a second extension I was

2262
01:46:34,040 --> 01:46:36,719
under the assumption that from March the

2263
01:46:36,719 --> 01:46:39,639
end of March no more extensions correct

2264
01:46:39,639 --> 01:46:42,639
we kind of put because did we are you

2265
01:46:42,639 --> 01:46:44,880
asking about this particular one um not

2266
01:46:44,880 --> 01:46:46,520
that particular I think I said it for

2267
01:46:46,520 --> 01:46:48,679
Electric City Co-Op just because I met

2268
01:46:48,679 --> 01:46:50,800
with them and they they threw that in

2269
01:46:50,800 --> 01:46:52,639
the air so I'm prematurely sing that

2270
01:46:52,639 --> 01:46:54,599
Council I think we discussed that

2271
01:46:54,599 --> 01:46:57,920
Council that we had to put a dead uh uh

2272
01:46:57,920 --> 01:47:02,639
an end dat on extensions um so right am

2273
01:47:02,639 --> 01:47:05,119
I right I believe you we did say that

2274
01:47:05,119 --> 01:47:06,280
because we have to get the money

2275
01:47:06,280 --> 01:47:07,960
allocated right and we can't keep

2276
01:47:07,960 --> 01:47:11,960
kicking the can down the road right yeah I think I think we spoke on

2277
01:47:11,960 --> 01:47:13,800
that in terms of extension that to allow

2278
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:16,199
any more extension let's give them

2279
01:47:16,199 --> 01:47:18,199
adequate time the last extension and

2280
01:47:18,199 --> 01:47:20,360
then take about moving the the funding

2281
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:22,840
to the city uh to the city projects

2282
01:47:22,840 --> 01:47:26,880
thank yes right you have more I have

2283
01:47:26,880 --> 01:47:31,080
none okay so we'll take up um Bethesda

2284
01:47:31,080 --> 01:47:33,560
house carara house discussion in

2285
01:47:33,560 --> 01:47:34,800
executive

2286
01:47:34,800 --> 01:47:36,639
session

2287
01:47:36,639 --> 01:47:41,000
okay and so oh Mr wall my back item

2288
01:47:41,000 --> 01:47:48,750
number

2289
01:47:48,760 --> 01:47:53,199
four 56 M okay okay police station

2290
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:56,360
server room HVAC Chiller replacement so

2291
01:47:56,360 --> 01:47:58,639
what we have uh in the police station we

2292
01:47:58,639 --> 01:48:00,360
have both the computer server room and

2293
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:01,920
what is affectionally known as the CRA

2294
01:48:01,920 --> 01:48:03,760
room which is the city's camera

2295
01:48:03,760 --> 01:48:08,159
surveillance room the rooms are um air

2296
01:48:08,159 --> 01:48:09,760
conditioning independently of the rest

2297
01:48:09,760 --> 01:48:11,800
of the building they have separate units

2298
01:48:11,800 --> 01:48:15,280
the two units that service them are well

2299
01:48:15,280 --> 01:48:17,520
P pass their service life one unit is

2300
01:48:17,520 --> 01:48:19,960
been down for over a year and its parts

2301
01:48:19,960 --> 01:48:21,960
are being used to keep the other unit

2302
01:48:21,960 --> 01:48:24,480
running um it's just a precarious

2303
01:48:24,480 --> 01:48:26,800
position we don't want to have um so we

2304
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,760
have a bid to put a new called a crack

2305
01:48:29,760 --> 01:48:32,119
unit and then a split unit crack is a

2306
01:48:32,119 --> 01:48:35,840
computer room specific unit um we had

2307
01:48:35,840 --> 01:48:39,920
two bids and the low bid was from R&B

2308
01:48:39,920 --> 01:48:42,840
mechanical who does uh a lot of work

2309
01:48:42,840 --> 01:48:45,040
with the city the bid was uh actually

2310
01:48:45,040 --> 01:48:47,000
wellin our budget and we're comfortable

2311
01:48:47,000 --> 01:48:48,360
with awarding

2312
01:48:48,360 --> 01:48:51,360
it so do we already we have this money

2313
01:48:51,360 --> 01:48:53,960
is already yes this is from capital I

2314
01:48:53,960 --> 01:48:56,119
believe from capital budget yes this is

2315
01:48:56,119 --> 01:48:58,040
capital money we uh set aside money for

2316
01:48:58,040 --> 01:49:01,040
Capital Improvements in our 2023 capital

2317
01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:03,159
budget so that's coming out of there all

2318
01:49:03,159 --> 01:49:06,159
right any questions it that's second all

2319
01:49:06,159 --> 01:49:08,920
in favor I thank you and item number

2320
01:49:08,920 --> 01:49:12,400
five item number five is court agreement

2321
01:49:12,400 --> 01:49:17,000
correct yes y 5year term from 2023 to

2322
01:49:17,000 --> 01:49:20,239
2028 yep so as you're aware um the city

2323
01:49:20,239 --> 01:49:23,040
now houses the state courts so courts

2324
01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:24,320
are no longer run by the city they're

2325
01:49:24,320 --> 01:49:26,000
run by the state under the unified court

2326
01:49:26,000 --> 01:49:28,880
system we have to sign a 5e revolving

2327
01:49:28,880 --> 01:49:30,159
agreement with them through that

2328
01:49:30,159 --> 01:49:34,159
agreement they agree to pay us for um

2329
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:35,679
the maintenance and upkeep of the

2330
01:49:35,679 --> 01:49:37,679
facilities utility costs things like

2331
01:49:37,679 --> 01:49:40,199
that essentially as a tenant and us as

2332
01:49:40,199 --> 01:49:43,239
the landlord um this 5year agreement uh

2333
01:49:43,239 --> 01:49:45,440
is up and then after this five during

2334
01:49:45,440 --> 01:49:47,719
this 5-year agreement we do one-year

2335
01:49:47,719 --> 01:49:50,800
reviews and quarterly reports um all

2336
01:49:50,800 --> 01:49:53,920
through throughout the year so I have uh

2337
01:49:53,920 --> 01:49:55,560
I work with the chief Clerk of the city

2338
01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:57,400
doing quarter reports and I work with

2339
01:49:57,400 --> 01:49:58,800
their office of administrative

2340
01:49:58,800 --> 01:50:00,080
management once a year through the end

2341
01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:02,040
of your reports

2342
01:50:02,040 --> 01:50:06,080
so any questions how do I know that like

2343
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:09,880
court system may say let's we want you

2344
01:50:09,880 --> 01:50:11,920
to build another additional courtroom

2345
01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:16,000
and and typically is AAL fund it you

2346
01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:17,760
know you need to expand you need you

2347
01:50:17,760 --> 01:50:19,320
know it's a requirement you need another

2348
01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:20,760
judge

2349
01:50:20,760 --> 01:50:22,719
um having this agreement how's that I

2350
01:50:22,719 --> 01:50:25,239
mean how do we anticipate that or you

2351
01:50:25,239 --> 01:50:27,719
know anticipate that the potential tax

2352
01:50:27,719 --> 01:50:30,880
increased after do that so they they I I

2353
01:50:30,880 --> 01:50:32,280
have had some experience at the county

2354
01:50:32,280 --> 01:50:33,920
where they like this is no longer an

2355
01:50:33,920 --> 01:50:36,280
appropriate facility you need to do a

2356
01:50:36,280 --> 01:50:40,000
new courtroom um I mean anything any way

2357
01:50:40,000 --> 01:50:43,520
to kind of um in that agreement is any

2358
01:50:43,520 --> 01:50:46,040
kind of language about that if they say

2359
01:50:46,040 --> 01:50:48,480
add another courtroom how that would be

2360
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:51,520
funded no well it doesn't address that

2361
01:50:51,520 --> 01:50:55,040
specifically um we are in you know

2362
01:50:55,040 --> 01:50:56,599
conversations with them about a hearing

2363
01:50:56,599 --> 01:50:59,480
room um and they are you know talking to

2364
01:50:59,480 --> 01:51:00,880
us about the hearing room in the court

2365
01:51:00,880 --> 01:51:03,079
facilities always uh we have a unique

2366
01:51:03,079 --> 01:51:04,719
Court situation here at the city where

2367
01:51:04,719 --> 01:51:08,199
we have two buildings which is uh unique

2368
01:51:08,199 --> 01:51:11,520
uh to some but that this is more of an

2369
01:51:11,520 --> 01:51:13,880
operating agreement for the 5 years and

2370
01:51:13,880 --> 01:51:16,360
it and uh it just kind of goes back to

2371
01:51:16,360 --> 01:51:17,560
our reimbursement which is in the

2372
01:51:17,560 --> 01:51:18,960
appendices in the

2373
01:51:18,960 --> 01:51:20,719
back

2374
01:51:20,719 --> 01:51:22,840
other

2375
01:51:22,840 --> 01:51:26,639
questions a motion Some Mo second all in

2376
01:51:26,639 --> 01:51:29,719
favor I and item number six the

2377
01:51:29,719 --> 01:51:32,239
revokable permit for wh Kett yep so what

2378
01:51:32,239 --> 01:51:33,599
we'd like to do with this one is

2379
01:51:33,599 --> 01:51:35,760
essentially amend uh the revocable

2380
01:51:35,760 --> 01:51:37,960
permit which has already been issued um

2381
01:51:37,960 --> 01:51:40,040
this is very simple they're going to be

2382
01:51:40,040 --> 01:51:43,000
screening off their uh recessed outdoor

2383
01:51:43,000 --> 01:51:46,119
space as they get a lot of uh bancy in

2384
01:51:46,119 --> 01:51:49,000
that area and uh one of the things is

2385
01:51:49,000 --> 01:51:51,239
the door is kind of right on the right

2386
01:51:51,239 --> 01:51:53,199
away because of the the property line so

2387
01:51:53,199 --> 01:51:54,880
we have the easiest thing is just to

2388
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:57,079
make sure the door is added in to the to

2389
01:51:57,079 --> 01:51:59,000
the revokable permit and so that's what

2390
01:51:59,000 --> 01:52:00,639
we're looking to do is just amend it so

2391
01:52:00,639 --> 01:52:02,520
it includes the retractable awnings and

2392
01:52:02,520 --> 01:52:07,920
the overhangs and now the patio door so where the patio is currently where

2393
01:52:07,920 --> 01:52:10,440
you can just kind of go in and sit

2394
01:52:10,440 --> 01:52:11,880
without anything you know they're not

2395
01:52:11,880 --> 01:52:12,960
opening a door now they're going to

2396
01:52:12,960 --> 01:52:14,679
actually put in a door it's going to be

2397
01:52:14,679 --> 01:52:16,760
like a big

2398
01:52:16,760 --> 01:52:18,480
screened almost like a screen

2399
01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:20,079
transparent wall then there's going to

2400
01:52:20,079 --> 01:52:23,599
be a screen door oh okay so the issue is

2401
01:52:23,599 --> 01:52:25,280
you know at night they put all the

2402
01:52:25,280 --> 01:52:27,360
tables in there but it was open but

2403
01:52:27,360 --> 01:52:30,199
people would go into the space secluded

2404
01:52:30,199 --> 01:52:32,520
area and then they were having issues

2405
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:33,840
with that so they like to be able to

2406
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:35,639
keep people out of the the space that's

2407
01:52:35,639 --> 01:52:37,760
out of site

2408
01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,480
okay any other questions no I'll it

2409
01:52:41,480 --> 01:52:43,679
second all in

2410
01:52:43,679 --> 01:52:47,560
favor and so item number seven

2411
01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:51,119
is revokable for the RB Lounge uh right

2412
01:52:51,119 --> 01:52:53,360
down the street the rabbit Lounge uh is

2413
01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:55,480
a rebranded uh it's going to be a salon

2414
01:52:55,480 --> 01:52:58,040
I had to ask what the rabbit Lounge was

2415
01:52:58,040 --> 01:52:59,079
I was

2416
01:52:59,079 --> 01:53:02,719
intrigued uh but it is for uh a sign on

2417
01:53:02,719 --> 01:53:04,719
an existing sign post so what is the

2418
01:53:04,719 --> 01:53:06,679
rabbit La I I believe it's a beauty

2419
01:53:06,679 --> 01:53:08,960
salon oh that is taking place in the

2420
01:53:08,960 --> 01:53:10,639
existing there was a former beauty salon

2421
01:53:10,639 --> 01:53:13,239
there and they're just uh going under

2422
01:53:13,239 --> 01:53:16,079
like new management or new operat so so

2423
01:53:16,079 --> 01:53:17,400
for historic information there was

2424
01:53:17,400 --> 01:53:19,280
another facility named the rabbit Lounge

2425
01:53:19,280 --> 01:53:21,360
it's connected and it was not a bey so

2426
01:53:21,360 --> 01:53:23,920
oh so I thought it might be like a cat

2427
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:25,760
cafe you know where you go into the

2428
01:53:25,760 --> 01:53:27,880
rabbit's

2429
01:53:27,880 --> 01:53:31,920
run not exactly so uh any

2430
01:53:31,920 --> 01:53:33,870
questions a

2431
01:53:33,870 --> 01:53:35,000
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2432
01:53:35,000 --> 01:53:37,520
motion all in

2433
01:53:37,520 --> 01:53:41,880
favor thank you very much wall

2434
01:53:41,880 --> 01:53:46,239
um so we already did the update for the

2435
01:53:46,239 --> 01:53:49,119
uh for the sidewalk so the next is a

2436
01:53:49,119 --> 01:53:51,239
ceremonial resolution recognizing black

2437
01:53:51,239 --> 01:53:53,480
history months um and actually this will

2438
01:53:53,480 --> 01:53:57,320
be Mr Harley um something we do every

2439
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:58,840
year for black history month so just

2440
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:01,639
looking for um Mr you want to speak to

2441
01:54:01,639 --> 01:54:03,920
that I'm sorry sure something we do

2442
01:54:03,920 --> 01:54:05,440
every year uh celebrating in Black

2443
01:54:05,440 --> 01:54:08,480
History Month um just uh looking uh to

2444
01:54:08,480 --> 01:54:10,560
put have another resolution recognizing

2445
01:54:10,560 --> 01:54:13,280
Black History Month and all the uh

2446
01:54:13,280 --> 01:54:17,239
contributions um uh made by uh people of

2447
01:54:17,239 --> 01:54:19,960
color uh in the city is concy and

2448
01:54:19,960 --> 01:54:22,880
Nationwide and also not just recogn also

2449
01:54:22,880 --> 01:54:24,480
recognizing that black history is

2450
01:54:24,480 --> 01:54:27,440
American history and um the way we

2451
01:54:27,440 --> 01:54:30,719
acknowledge our history um will inform

2452
01:54:30,719 --> 01:54:32,560
our future so very important our

2453
01:54:32,560 --> 01:54:35,360
resolation just look for support for

2454
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:39,440
that second all in favor thank

2455
01:54:39,440 --> 01:54:43,560
you uh the remainder are property sales

2456
01:54:43,560 --> 01:54:46,960
yes so for that we would go into

2457
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:48,199
executive

2458
01:54:48,199 --> 01:54:51,719
session and also we would also continue

2459
01:54:51,719 --> 01:54:53,760
um discussing the Bethesda House of

2460
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:55,079
three that session just so to make sure

2461
01:54:55,079 --> 01:54:57,520
that everyone understand that being done

2462
01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,880
so uh ask for motion to go on Executive

2463
01:54:59,880 --> 01:55:03,400
session second all in favor okay we'll

2464
01:55:03,400 --> 01:55:05,040
go on Executive session the public would

2465
01:55:05,040 --> 01:55:10,800
have to leave

2466
01:55:10,810 --> 01:55:14,040
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2467
01:55:14,040 --> 01:55:17,040
and